From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 6 11:32:44 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA16127 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 11:32:44 -0800 Received: from indigo.csci.csusb.edu (nwestfal@indigo.csci.csusb.edu [139.182.38.28]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA16120 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 11:32:33 -0800 Received: by indigo.csci.csusb.edu (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for hardware@freebsd.org id AA00860; Mon, 6 Mar 95 11:30:03 -0800 From: nwestfal@indigo.csci.csusb.edu (Neal Westfall) Message-Id: <9503061930.AA00860@indigo.csci.csusb.edu> Subject: Promise EIDE 2300 Plus To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 11:30:02 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1123 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone gotten the Promise EIDE 2300 Plus controller to work with FreeBSD? This is a VLB controller with 16550 serial ports which has been highly recommended. I picked one of these up at the computer show in Pomona this last weekend along with a Western Digital 1.2 GB Caviar AC31000 hard drive. The controller works fine with dos, but refuses to boot the FreeBSD partition. I can use my old ISA controller with this drive just fine. The controller also wouldn't boot the FreeBSD partition on my old Conner 540 MB drive. I noticed that when using this controller, the conventional memory available is reduced by about 3K, (i.e. 637K as opposed to 640K). If it is not possible to use this controller with FreeBSD, can anyone recommend a good VLB EIDE controller with I/O ports that does work? -- # $Id: dot.signature,v 1.1 1995/02/11 02:28:11 nwestfal Exp $ Neal Westfall nwestfal@csci.csusb.edu FreeBSD 2.1.0-Development #0: Fri Feb 10 23:31:36 1995 root@darkside.csci.csusb.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/DARKSIDE CPU: i486DX (486-class CPU) Id = 0x435 Origin = "GenuineIntel" From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 6 11:39:48 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA16246 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 11:39:48 -0800 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA16239 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 11:39:47 -0800 Received: (from phk@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id LAA22838; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 11:39:11 -0800 From: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-Id: <199503061939.LAA22838@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Promise EIDE 2300 Plus To: nwestfal@indigo.csci.csusb.edu (Neal Westfall) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 11:39:10 -0800 (PST) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9503061930.AA00860@indigo.csci.csusb.edu> from "Neal Westfall" at Mar 6, 95 11:30:02 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 348 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > not possible to use this controller with FreeBSD, can anyone > recommend a good VLB EIDE controller with I/O ports that does > work? I use a DTC 2278 with good results. The sio's are not 16550's though -- Poul-Henning Kamp TRW Financial Systems, Inc. I am Pentium Of Borg. Division is Futile. You WILL be approximated. From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 6 14:54:28 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA20713 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 14:54:28 -0800 Received: from vinkku.hut.fi (root@vinkku.hut.fi [130.233.245.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA20705 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 14:54:23 -0800 Received: from lk-hp-17.hut.fi (lk-hp-17.hut.fi [130.233.246.35]) by vinkku.hut.fi (8.6.9/8.6.7) with ESMTP id AAA05226 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 00:53:57 +0200 From: Juha Inkari Received: (inkari@localhost) by lk-hp-17.hut.fi (8.6.8.1/8.6.7) id AAA15667 for hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 00:53:55 +0200 Message-Id: <199503062253.AAA15667@lk-hp-17.hut.fi> Subject: Machine hangups under Feb. 10 snap To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 00:53:55 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1059 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I installed the 2.0-950210-SNAP and run into problems. The symptoms are total blackout two or more times per day (has not yet hold up overnight or so). By total blackout I mean, that the display adapter dives suddenly into some sort of state, where the monitor gets no input (and, the machine does not answer to ping, keyboard gives no response etc.). It is like screensaver going active, but by the sound of the monitor (whizz..) there's more to it. This has happened both under X Window system, and without X, in an "idle" machine, and with work going on. I grabbed the release kernel (941204 version), and booted with that. So far the uptime is 12 hours, which will make me believe, that the problem does not occur with the release kernel. I'd like to know, if this is a know problem, and if there's a fix in the 'current' version. If this "should not happen", I could try to take a closer look of what's going on. The hardware is an older 486 (AST), 64kC, 8M, AMI bios, Trident 8900 vga chipset. I can dig into more details, if anyone's interested. From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Mar 7 05:19:29 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA14389 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 05:19:29 -0800 Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA14383 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 05:19:26 -0800 Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0rlyqI-0004tbC; Tue, 7 Mar 95 07:58 EST Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.52.5]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19609; Tue, 7 Mar 95 07:55:55 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA18947; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 07:53:34 +0500 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <9503071253.AA18947@elmer.ct.picker.com> Subject: Re: Promise EIDE 2300 Plus To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 07:53:33 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2121 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: nwestfal@indigo.csci.csusb.edu (Neal Westfall) > Subject: Promise EIDE 2300 Plus > can anyone > recommend a good VLB EIDE controller with I/O ports that does > work? I've used both the Tyan 1342 VLB-EIDE and (for a day now) the Vitrex M626VL. I was unable to get the Tyan serial ports to work with Zmodem (strange board interaction -- not IRQ/DMA conflict) under DOS so I switched to the Vitrex. So far it's been running my 2 hard disks (WD 340M and Connor 540), IDE CD-ROM, and modem with no problems. Haven't tested the other serial port or parallel yet. Both boards (so far) appear to work equally well with FreeBSD 2.0. Both boards have 2 16550 serial ports, 1 Std/ECP/EPP/ECP+EPP parallel port, 1 game port, and 2 IDE controllers. The Tyan board supports up to 4 floppies but the Vitrex supports only 2. Both support 2.88 Meg floppy drives. As far as performance goes, I get 1.75 Meg/sec off the Tyan and 1.85 Meg/sec off the Vitrex for my Connor. VL optimizations available via a jumper on the Tyan; software settable on the Tyan (via driver that's pass-through or TSR). 32-bit HD access in Windoze is available via that driver with TSR option. (?) That brings me to the question I have for this group. If the card needs a TSR driver in DOS to do 32-bit access (in Windoze), does that mean I would need a similar driver to get this same access in FreeBSD or other operating system? Also, the docs say that the DOS driver needs be run to tweak the boards registers for max VL-IDE performance (gets me up from 1.1 Meg/sec to 1.85 Meg/sec). Does FreeBSD support this for Vitrex cards, and if not, what is the policy on incorporating board-specific optimizations into the kernel drivers (I'd be willing to look into this). Thanks, Randall Hopper _____________________________________________________________________________ Randall Hopper | CT Visualization and Connectivity Senior Software Engineer | Picker International rhh@ct.picker.com | FAX: (216) 473-7098 From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Mar 7 10:46:43 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA21415 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 10:46:43 -0800 Received: from gvr.win.tue.nl (root@gvr.win.tue.nl [131.155.210.19]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA21407 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 10:46:39 -0800 Received: by gvr.win.tue.nl (8.6.10/1.53) id TAA09267; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 19:45:28 +0100 From: guido@gvr.win.tue.nl (Guido van Rooij) Message-Id: <199503071845.TAA09267@gvr.win.tue.nl> Subject: Re: ASUS motherboard To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 19:45:27 +0100 (MET) Cc: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr, hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199503022227.OAA15249@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Mar 2, 95 02:27:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 510 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I do have an ECS SI54P AIO board that has the exact same specs as the ASUS > board that works just fine. I have seen one problems with the SiS 85C50X > chip set, it does not seem to like my bt946C, hard hang on power up. It > runs both my ncr810 and ncr825 controllers just fine. I have not tested > it yet with the aha2940 since it also just came in today. > Funny., We've got the ASUS mnotherboard and it also hangs on boot with the bustec controller. The board is nice, though expensive. -Guido From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Mar 7 16:45:36 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA01461 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 16:45:36 -0800 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA01447 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 16:45:29 -0800 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA30324; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 10:42:48 +1000 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 10:42:48 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199503080042.KAA30324@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: rhh@ct.picker.com Subject: Re: Promise EIDE 2300 Plus Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >That brings me to the question I have for this group. If the card needs a >TSR driver in DOS to do 32-bit access (in Windoze), does that mean I would >need a similar driver to get this same access in FreeBSD or other operating The FreeBSD driver already has support for 32-bit i/o. >system? Also, the docs say that the DOS driver needs be run to tweak the >boards registers for max VL-IDE performance (gets me up from 1.1 Meg/sec to >1.85 Meg/sec). Does FreeBSD support this for Vitrex cards, and if not, what >is the policy on incorporating board-specific optimizations into the kernel >drivers (I'd be willing to look into this). The FreeBSD driver doesn't have any other support for EIDE yet. The most important thing that it is missing is support for fast PIO modes. Generic support is preferred. Bruce From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Mar 10 00:46:12 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA09948 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 00:46:12 -0800 Received: from frodi.cs.uop.edu ([138.9.200.53]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA09942 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 00:46:08 -0800 Received: from uop.cs.uop.edu by frodi.cs.uop.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA04788; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 00:46:01 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 00:46:00 -0800 (PST) From: Tiggie To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: What type of hard drive to buy? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am new to the FreeBSD area. I am currently thinking of purchasing a hard drive to devote completely to FreeBSD. Will FreeBSD 2.1 be having support for EIDE? Right now, I can't decide on what type of hard drive to buy for my system. Currently my setup is: Pentium 90 MHz (Zeos Pantera system) 16 megs RAM 3.5" floppy SCSI CD-ROM drive 528 meg HD (Segate ST5660A) 81 meg HD (Western Digital WDAC280) Sound Blaster Pro card 14.4 internal modem (Supra) Adaptec 1522 SCSI control integrated on motherboard ** The motherboard has am integrated EIDE controller able to support 4 HDs. I was thinking about purchasing one of the following: Quantum Empire 1080 meg SCSI-2 HD (IMP1080S) Quantum Capella 1108 meg SCSI-2 HD (VP32210S) Western Digital 1080 meg EIDE HD (WDAC31000) Would anyone have any ideas on how their performance would be like in the current version of FreeBSD? Or opinions of other hard drives that I should consider purchasing? (Something in the size of 1 GB to about 1.5 GB.) Kevin kleung@uop.cs.uop.edu From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Mar 10 01:03:07 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA10443 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 01:03:07 -0800 Received: from ns.dknet.dk (root@ns.dknet.dk [193.88.44.42]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA10434 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 01:02:56 -0800 Received: from login.dknet.dk by ns.dknet.dk with SMTP id AA29589 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for ); Fri, 10 Mar 1995 10:02:40 +0100 Received: by login.dknet.dk (4.1/SMI-4.1DKnet00) id AA15801; Fri, 10 Mar 95 10:01:45 +0100 From: sos@login.dknet.dk (S|ren Schmidt) Message-Id: <9503100901.AA15801@login.dknet.dk> Subject: Re: What type of hard drive to buy? To: kleung@frodi.cs.uop.edu (Tiggie) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 95 10:01:45 MET Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: ; from "Tiggie" at Mar 10, 95 12:46 am X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I am new to the FreeBSD area. I am currently thinking of purchasing a > hard drive to devote completely to FreeBSD. > > Will FreeBSD 2.1 be having support for EIDE? Right now, I can't decide > on what type of hard drive to buy for my system. Currently my setup is: Maybe, I'm currently hacking away on a ATA/ATAPI driver, mostly to support IDE CDROM's but I'd like to do the disks also (if time permits). > I was thinking about purchasing one of the following: > > Quantum Empire 1080 meg SCSI-2 HD (IMP1080S) > Quantum Capella 1108 meg SCSI-2 HD (VP32210S) > Western Digital 1080 meg EIDE HD (WDAC31000) I would *definitively* go with a SCSI drive, having looked at the ide/e-ide specs you really *dont* want an ide/e-ide drive !! > Would anyone have any ideas on how their performance would be like in the -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org | sos@login.dknet.dk) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time .. From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Mar 10 08:45:45 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA17925 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 08:45:45 -0800 Received: from dtr.com (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA17919 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 08:45:43 -0800 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by dtr.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA05443; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 08:43:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199503101643.IAA05443@dtr.com> Subject: Re: What type of hard drive to buy? To: kleung@frodi.cs.uop.edu (Tiggie) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 08:43:22 -0800 (PST) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Tiggie" at Mar 10, 95 00:46:00 am Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1437 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am new to the FreeBSD area. I am currently thinking of purchasing a > hard drive to devote completely to FreeBSD. > Will FreeBSD 2.1 be having support for EIDE? Right now, I can't decide > on what type of hard drive to buy for my system. Currently my setup is: > Pentium 90 MHz (Zeos Pantera system) > 16 megs RAM > 3.5" floppy > SCSI CD-ROM drive > 528 meg HD (Segate ST5660A) > 81 meg HD (Western Digital WDAC280) > Sound Blaster Pro card > 14.4 internal modem (Supra) > Adaptec 1522 SCSI control integrated on motherboard > ** The motherboard has am integrated EIDE controller able to > support 4 HDs. Question for the hardware gurus: Given that the Adaptec 152x series aren't the fastest SCSI controllers in the world (that's putting it kindly) - what would be the preferred controller, the 152x, or EIDE? Just curious - I already have a Buslogic 445. > I was thinking about purchasing one of the following: > Quantum Empire 1080 meg SCSI-2 HD (IMP1080S) > Quantum Capella 1108 meg SCSI-2 HD (VP32210S) > Western Digital 1080 meg EIDE HD (WDAC31000) I can't comment on any of these - haven't used them. > Would anyone have any ideas on how their performance would be like in the > current version of FreeBSD? Or opinions of other hard drives that I > should consider purchasing? (Something in the size of 1 GB to about 1.5 GB.) I've heard good things about the Seagate Barracuda series. From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Mar 11 14:27:20 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA00607 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 14:27:20 -0800 Received: from mail.netcom.com (root@mail.netcom.com [192.100.81.99]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA00601 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 14:27:19 -0800 From: patl@asimov.lashley.slip.netcom.com Received: from lashley.slip.netcom.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.10/Netcom) id NAA24044; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 13:42:31 -0800 Received: by lashley.slip.netcom.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13598; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 13:46:24 -0800 Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 13:46:24 -0800 Message-Id: <9503112146.AA13598@lashley.slip.netcom.com> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: ? BIOS settings for Syquest 270M IDE drive Reply-To: lashley@netcom.com X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This question isn't really *BSD-specific; but I expect someone on the list will have an answer... I'm trying to set up a Syquest SQ3270 270M IDE drive as the C drive so that I can easily swap OSes. The problem is that I bought a bare drive with minimal documentation; and it looks like I may have the BIOS settings wrong. At boot time, the BIOS reports 'Target 0: Drive not connected'. (If I put my Connor 1080A back on C and the Syquest on D, it changes the target to 1, but the message is still there. It also doesn't seem to matter whether I have the Connor connected or not.) When I boot a DOS floppy, and ask it to dir the Syquest, it shows a garbage dir. But when boot NT 3.5 off of the Connor, it can see the drive, and the free FastBack drivers that are pre-loaded on the cartridge. (It also reports it as a FAT filesystem.) Note that the boot still complains about the drive; but once NT is up, it can see it. (It doesn't seem to notice when the cartridge is removed though.) I haven't tried the FreeBSD boot floppies yet... Has anyone out there set up one of these drives as the C drive? What are the correct BIOS settings? (I'm using 1024 cyl, 32 head, 16 sectors, as apparently suggested by a photocopied spec sheet. I know this doesn't match the physical; but have no idea what the physical cyl or sector numbers are.) Is there any way to get NT to tell me what parameters it is using? (That question is about as far off-topic for this list as any I can think of off hand...) If it matters, my mainboard has the AMI BIOS, (c) 1992; and I'm using an IK KW-556N IDE-bus multi I/O card. Thanks, -Pat P.S. The Syquest BBS isn't answering, and there is no tech support on the weekend. But I -really- want to get this taken care of before Monday - any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.