From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 17 02:30:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA19406 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 02:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA19398 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 02:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id CAA27598 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 02:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA18657; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 12:28:34 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 12:28:26 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD-stable new release Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk =09HI! For all those who do not read -hackers - there is another users vs.=20 developers flamewar, on part of it being the new releases, among others=20 the release of 2.1.6/7 - the number doesn't matter, it is the same=20 thing. Now are there any *sane* ideas as for what *new* things should=20 make it to 2.1.6? Are the new ports that can be brought over to be=20 bgrought over, do we want tcl-7.5 included in the system as there is in=20 -current, do we want some other "upgrades" be present (I personaly use=20 DES code from -current for newer SSLeay port). Any one who responds, please observe: =091) This mail is my *personal* view of the things. It is not=20 =09 sanctioned by anyone, inc. the FreeBSD core group. Even=20 =09 information on the 2.1.6 release is unofficial - I just saw it=20 =09 mentioned in the -hackers mailing list in the mails of some=20 =09 persons.=20 =092) I don't want a flame war and won't answer to any flames. I=20 =09 hope to keep this all in reasonable frame.=20 =093) IMHO I am not much of an organizer :-) and so not too suitable=20 =09 for carrying it all through. As d=B4for contributing I can=20 =09 provide my own time and disk space which is located over a not too=20 =09 good link in a far a way place in Europe. I can also test any=20 =09 reasonable changes.=20 =094) I do not in any way want to make -stable unstable in any way.=20 =09 All changes going in would be tested for stability by several=20 =09 people *before* making it to the official tree. It should be=20 =09 possible to either "group up" several of the deltas to make=20 =09 fewer of them or alternatively, make a lot of them for smaller=20 =09 deltas.=20 =095) Any one who finds this not appropriate for the list, the whole=20 =09 thing pointless, etc. Are welcome to mail me personaly and say so. =09Sander From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 17 04:29:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA25213 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 04:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fty-ss20.cisco.com (fty-ss20.cisco.com [171.69.162.81]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA25206 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 04:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fty-ss20.cisco.com (8.8.0/1.34) id LAA15388; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 11:28:20 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 11:28:20 GMT From: Frank Terhaar-Yonkers Message-Id: <199610171128.LAA15388@fty-ss20.cisco.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: recent CTM breaks savecore? X-Face: ,fjtWiMPydUaSQl%8[eTg`u:^BXt&T)Sny(6w\*U"5D9H[Z$kG%Q/z;Z=NwrPiXf-aMF3R) Rsand$,]26-8>5@HD(A3A79gN|0%NHsdek4mT8E,>j+\w!~d2#nH;~NV!5a0"`5$Cj8d\or(Jy/JQ_ |uc;C[filmZ(~#lre*l:|O%d/PJFy`.5w8)sMZ-)QI3TaV"j'k X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Or did I miss something? /usr/src/sbin/savecore ->make depend all cc -O2 -m486 -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -c /usr/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.c /usr/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.c: In function `check_kmem': /usr/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.c:279: `KPTDI' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.c:279: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.c:279: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.c: In function `clear_dump': /usr/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.c:304: `KPTDI' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.c: In function `dump_exists': /usr/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.c:313: `KPTDI' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.c: In function `get_crashtime': /usr/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.c:514: `KPTDI' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.c: In function `get_dumpsize': /usr/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.c:534: `KPTDI' undeclared (first use this function) *** Error code 1 \\\\////\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\ Frank Terhaar-Yonkers Cisco Systems, Inc. Engineering Services, W2 F3 5 7025 Kit Creek Road PO Box 14987 Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 fty@cisco.com voice (919)472-2101 FAX (919)472-2940 pager (800)796-7363 pin 100-8366 -or- fty@airnote.net From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 17 15:33:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05212 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kachina.jetcafe.org (jetcafe.org [207.155.21.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05201 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([127.0.0.1]) by kachina.jetcafe.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA16559; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610172232.PAA16559@kachina.jetcafe.org> X-Authentication-Warning: kachina.jetcafe.org: Host [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Narvi Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-stable new release Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:32:36 -0700 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > For all those who do not read -hackers - there is another users vs.=20 > developers flamewar, on part of it being the new releases, among others=20 > the release of 2.1.6/7 - the number doesn't matter, it is the same=20 > thing. Now are there any *sane* ideas as for what *new* things should=20 > make it to 2.1.6? Pardon if this is clueless, but is there any way to see what (exactly) has been changed between -stable releases other than comparing file datetimes? ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet Compassion will cure more sins than condemnation. From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 17 19:46:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA18498 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA18492 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.6/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA11178; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:46:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199610180246.UAA11178@rover.village.org> To: Dave Hayes Subject: Re: FreeBSD-stable new release Cc: Narvi , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:32:36 PDT." <199610172232.PAA16559@kachina.jetcafe.org> References: <199610172232.PAA16559@kachina.jetcafe.org> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:46:15 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199610172232.PAA16559@kachina.jetcafe.org> Dave Hayes writes: : Pardon if this is clueless, but is there any way to see what (exactly) : has been changed between -stable releases other than comparing file : datetimes? cvs log -r RELENG_2_1_5 -r HEAD should do the trick, or at least come close. :-) Warner From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 18 00:10:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA01598 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 00:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01555 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 00:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.7.5/8.6.12) id KAA04548; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:08:29 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:08:29 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: Dave Hayes cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-stable new release In-Reply-To: <199610172232.PAA16559@kachina.jetcafe.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Dave Hayes wrote: > > For all those who do not read -hackers - there is another users vs.=20 > > developers flamewar, on part of it being the new releases, among others=20 > > the release of 2.1.6/7 - the number doesn't matter, it is the same=20 > > thing. Now are there any *sane* ideas as for what *new* things should=20 > > make it to 2.1.6? > > Pardon if this is clueless, but is there any way to see what (exactly) > has been changed between -stable releases other than comparing file > datetimes? Hmm... One way is using cvs - however, it needs getting the whole cvs repository. The other way is using ctm - you have to get the deltas. All files listed in there have changed. Sander > ------ > Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org > Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet > > Compassion will cure more sins than condemnation. > > From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 18 20:03:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA12955 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmission.xmission.com (softweyr@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12949 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from softweyr@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) id VAA29102; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:02:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Softweyr LLC Message-Id: <199610190302.VAA29102@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD-stable new release To: narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee (Narvi) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:02:27 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Narvi" at Oct 17, 96 12:28:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > For all those who do not read -hackers - there is another users vs. > developers flamewar, on part of it being the new releases, among others > the release of 2.1.6/7 - the number doesn't matter, it is the same > thing. Now are there any *sane* ideas as for what *new* things should > make it to 2.1.6? Are the new ports that can be brought over to be > bgrought over, do we want tcl-7.5 included in the system as there is in > -current, do we want some other "upgrades" be present (I personaly use > DES code from -current for newer SSLeay port). I've noticed that IIJPPP is not as stable in 2.1.5-R as could be hoped. Have any improvements been made in this area? I've not seen much on the -stable list lately; I'd like to be able to sup any changes and get my system back to the stability I head in May/June. I'm willing to contribute test time; I'm working from home doing cross development for a M68K VxWorks system about 20 hours/week right now; I could really give it a spin. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com