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	Has anyone successfully used an HP 6020 CD Writer with FreeBSD?
I'm looking to buy a CD-Writer, but I can't find anyone who has the 
4020's any more.


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In message <Pine.BSI.3.91.971026101343.28966B-100000@leahi.aloha.com>, Joseph J
 Volack PE writes:
>	Has anyone successfully used an HP 6020 CD Writer with FreeBSD?
>I'm looking to buy a CD-Writer, but I can't find anyone who has the 
>4020's any more.

Got one here,  Works fine.

worm0 at scbus0 target 4 lun 0
worm0: <HP CD-Writer 6020 1.07> type 5 removable SCSI 2
worm0: Write-Once 

--
Poul-Henning Kamp             FreeBSD coreteam member
phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."

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Joseph J Volack PE wrote:
> 	Has anyone successfully used an HP 6020 CD Writer with FreeBSD?
> I'm looking to buy a CD-Writer, but I can't find anyone who has the 
> 4020's any more.
> 

The Philips cdd2000 are the same. Perhaps you can find that one?
Otherwise get a CDD2600; it's double speed.

-Guido

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I use one of these all the time and used it, in fact, to make
the FreeBSD 2.2.5 set.

				Jordan

> 	Has anyone successfully used an HP 6020 CD Writer with FreeBSD?
> I'm looking to buy a CD-Writer, but I can't find anyone who has the 
> 4020's any more.
> 


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> I use one of these all the time and used it, in fact, to make
> the FreeBSD 2.2.5 set.
> 
> 				Jordan
> 
> > 	Has anyone successfully used an HP 6020 CD Writer with FreeBSD?
> > I'm looking to buy a CD-Writer, but I can't find anyone who has the 
> > 4020's any more.

Jordan, did the 6020 require custom hacking of /usr/src/sys/scsi/worm.c?

"man wormcontrol" says:

        By now, the vendor/model names of ``PLASMON'' / ``RF4100'',
        ``PHILIPS'' / ``CDD2000'', and ``HP'' / ``4020i'' are known.

and /usr/src/sys/scsi/worm.c appears to agree.

I have access to a Yamaha CDR100 and have had mixed success without 
altering my kernel. The cd-write port is able to read data images from 
the worm device, but unable to write. Compiled the non-port cdrecord 
1.5 and have been able to create a bootable FreeBSD 2.2.5. Wouldn't say 
the Yamaha was perfect under FreeBSD, not by a long shot. Several times 
I managed to get it in a state that required its power to be cycled 
before it was usable again.

Any patches or suggestions to make the Yamaha work right?

I too was shopping for CD-R's this past week and found Philips CDD2600 
and HP 6020's widely available but not the 4020 which is sorta endorsed 
in /usr/share/examples/worm/*. Any available supported 4x writers?
--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net
=====================================================================
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capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.



From owner-freebsd-hardware  Sun Oct 26 19:22:57 1997
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I made no changes to get the HP6020i to work, it works out of the box
with 2.2.x

					Jordan

> > I use one of these all the time and used it, in fact, to make
> > the FreeBSD 2.2.5 set.
> > 
> > 				Jordan
> > 
> > > 	Has anyone successfully used an HP 6020 CD Writer with FreeBSD?
> > > I'm looking to buy a CD-Writer, but I can't find anyone who has the 
> > > 4020's any more.
> 
> Jordan, did the 6020 require custom hacking of /usr/src/sys/scsi/worm.c?
> 
> "man wormcontrol" says:
> 
>         By now, the vendor/model names of ``PLASMON'' / ``RF4100'',
>         ``PHILIPS'' / ``CDD2000'', and ``HP'' / ``4020i'' are known.
> 
> and /usr/src/sys/scsi/worm.c appears to agree.
> 
> I have access to a Yamaha CDR100 and have had mixed success without 
> altering my kernel. The cd-write port is able to read data images from 
> the worm device, but unable to write. Compiled the non-port cdrecord 
> 1.5 and have been able to create a bootable FreeBSD 2.2.5. Wouldn't say 
> the Yamaha was perfect under FreeBSD, not by a long shot. Several times 
> I managed to get it in a state that required its power to be cycled 
> before it was usable again.
> 
> Any patches or suggestions to make the Yamaha work right?
> 
> I too was shopping for CD-R's this past week and found Philips CDD2600 
> and HP 6020's widely available but not the 4020 which is sorta endorsed 
> in /usr/share/examples/worm/*. Any available supported 4x writers?
> --
> David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net
> =====================================================================
> The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its
> capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.
> 
> 


From owner-freebsd-hardware  Mon Oct 27 12:19:35 1997
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Hi,

I'm trying to make an Hayes ACCURA 336 PCMCIA modem work with
my laptop (it runs 2.2.2R + PAO stuff), but I'm not having
any success.

Looks like that the problem is in the sio driver (sioprobe fails
in almost all the tests).

I don't think the problem is the pcmcia stuff, and I noticed that
Patrick_Gardella has had the same problems mounts ago with a k56flex
internal modem (b.t.w. windows uses the same driver for both).

Any suggestions?

	Thanks,
	Lorenzo Vicisano

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> I searched the archives and found that one person has reportred trying to 
> k56flex modems.  He says he hasn't found one that works yet (hasn't tried 
> many either).  
> 
> So I'll ask the question, does anyone have a K56flex modem working on 
> FreeBSD 2.2.1 or later?
> 
> I'm looking at internal modems not external.
> 
> My only experience is with a Hayes Accura 56.  I got the probe test 3 
> error I reported last week.  Adding DELAY=10000 and/or commenting the 
> error check did not work with sio.c.


From owner-freebsd-hardware  Mon Oct 27 15:13:33 1997
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Just curious, I could not find any documentation on the warning given when
I boot from a 3COM 590 Driver.  Even in the mail archives I see the
question asked, but I couldn't find an answer..

Basically, when I boot I see:

vx0 <3COM 3C590 Etherlink III PCI> rev 0 int a irq 9 on pci0:20
utp/aui/bnc[*utp*] address x:x..hardware addr..
Warning! Defective early revision adapter! 

OK, so its an defective adapter.. what does this mean?  Is it a hardware
problem, and i'm just SOL, or can I get an upgrade for it?  I searched
3com's site as well, and coudln't find anything about it...

-Brandon Gillespie


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At 12:09 AM 10/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Mike Smith writes:
> > The wd driver times the operation out and retries it.  AFAIR most 
> > operations are tried at least 3 times before giving up.
>
>And in -current, the driver now waits longer (10s) before the first
>retry, eliminating those nattering errors.

I can not figure out why my HD is spinning up so frequently.  I set the
time down to 1 minute, with no one logged in, only process other than
defualt but sshd, and the system still reads.  There's 48megs of RAM, so I
can't immagine it needs to swap.

Is there a way to determine what is using my harddrive?

Michael

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Babumpabajard writes:
 > At 12:09 AM 10/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
 > >Mike Smith writes:
 > > > The wd driver times the operation out and retries it.  AFAIR most 
 > > > operations are tried at least 3 times before giving up.
 > >
 > >And in -current, the driver now waits longer (10s) before the first
 > >retry, eliminating those nattering errors.
 > 
 > I can not figure out why my HD is spinning up so frequently.  I set the
 > time down to 1 minute, with no one logged in, only process other than
 > defualt but sshd, and the system still reads.  There's 48megs of RAM, so I
 > can't immagine it needs to swap.
 > 
 > Is there a way to determine what is using my harddrive?

I'd run top and see what's in a disk wait while the disk is spinning
up.  My wild guess is cron writing its log file everytime atrun is
run every 5 minutes.

  --jh

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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:33:06 +0100
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In message <3.0.32.19971027183611.00982930@lafcol.lafayette.edu>, Babumpabajard
 writes:
>At 12:09 AM 10/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>Mike Smith writes:
>> > The wd driver times the operation out and retries it.  AFAIR most 
>> > operations are tried at least 3 times before giving up.
>>
>>And in -current, the driver now waits longer (10s) before the first
>>retry, eliminating those nattering errors.
>
>I can not figure out why my HD is spinning up so frequently.  I set the
>time down to 1 minute, with no one logged in, only process other than
>defualt but sshd, and the system still reads.  There's 48megs of RAM, so I
>can't immagine it needs to swap.
>
>Is there a way to determine what is using my harddrive?

You have set the update timer, right ?

printout the blocknumber that fails because of the drive sleeping,
learn about UFS on-disk-structures and work your way backwards...

--
Poul-Henning Kamp             FreeBSD coreteam member
phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."

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Babumpabajard <knollm@lafcol.lafayette.edu> writes:

> I can not figure out why my HD is spinning up so frequently.  I set the
> time down to 1 minute, with no one logged in, only process other than
> defualt but sshd, and the system still reads.  There's 48megs of RAM, so I
> can't immagine it needs to swap.
> 
> Is there a way to determine what is using my harddrive?

The update process (syncs the disk every 30 seconds)?
There is a sysctl variable to change the default interval.

						- Gene Stark

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Tom Jackson wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Sep 25, 1997 at 04:49:25PM +0200, Philipp Reichmuth wrote:
> > Hi folks!
> >
> > Good news for the K6: I just got mine swapped by my dealer; it was a
> > revision 9721 chip, and he swapped it for a 9735 chip. It now works
> > fine. I'll redo the make world for a couple of times the next weeks and
> > see what I'll get.
> >
> > Second good news: I wrote to AMD about it, and they seem genuinely
> > concerned with it, or so I gather from their mail. Here's what they
> > wrote (follows)
> >
> > Philipp
> >
> > ==================> begin AMD mail <============
> > (lots of mail)
> > =========================> End AMD Stuff <=========================
> >
> > (but please don't post all this into the wide world - it's a bit touchy
> > with personal email)
> >
> 
> Have you ask him to contact David G to get a replacement to him so the
> evaluation results can be known to all of us?
> 
> Tom

I have to apologize for being unable to read and write mail for the last
few weeks or so. Actually, my posting was the very last I was able to do
because of serious trouble with both the ISP I am working with and my
computer (mostly due to my own stupidity). This is why I haven't been
able to ask anybody anything.

My #9735 chip is working fine, though, so AMD seem to have got rid of
it.

I wonder if it makes sense to ask them this late.

Philipp


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Hello!  I'm having some severe problems with hanging during ftp
transfers, telnet sessions, and other network connections on a
system with an Adaptec 2940 ultra-wide controller and an Atlas 3 GB drive.
The system completely freezes and has to be power cycled.  I'm using
FreeBSD 2.1.7.1-RELEASE.  I've never had this problem with narrow 2940
controllers or narrow drives.  Has anyone experienced this, and does
anyone have any suggestions as to how to fix it?  Thank you!

S. Taylor,
VCI Admin


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On Wed, Oct 29, 1997 at 01:49:28AM -0800, admin@mama.vcommunities.com wrote:
> 
> Hello!  I'm having some severe problems with hanging during ftp
> transfers, telnet sessions, and other network connections on a
> system with an Adaptec 2940 ultra-wide controller and an Atlas 3 GB drive.
> The system completely freezes and has to be power cycled.  I'm using
> FreeBSD 2.1.7.1-RELEASE.  I've never had this problem with narrow 2940
> controllers or narrow drives.  Has anyone experienced this, and does
> anyone have any suggestions as to how to fix it?  Thank you!
> 
> S. Taylor,
> VCI Admin

Upgrade to 2.2.5.  There are many many scsi fixes in this system.
Joe
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I had a very similar problem with a 2940W (UW?) and 2.1.7.1.
I was using a SeaGate Barracuda 2.1G drive and added a Quantum 4.1G Drive.
It would install, but as soon as the machine got up and running and the
drive really got used it would lock up and die.

I ended up replacing the drive with another Seagate 4.1G drive and have
lived happily ever after.  Its still on 2.1.7.1.

Christopher J. Coleman (chris@bb.cc.wa.us)
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On Wed, 29 Oct 1997 admin@mama.vcommunities.com wrote:

> 
> Hello!  I'm having some severe problems with hanging during ftp
> transfers, telnet sessions, and other network connections on a
> system with an Adaptec 2940 ultra-wide controller and an Atlas 3 GB drive.
> The system completely freezes and has to be power cycled.  I'm using
> FreeBSD 2.1.7.1-RELEASE.  I've never had this problem with narrow 2940
> controllers or narrow drives.  Has anyone experienced this, and does
> anyone have any suggestions as to how to fix it?  Thank you!
> 
> S. Taylor,
> VCI Admin
> 
> 


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On Wed, 29 Oct 1997 admin@mama.vcommunities.com wrote:

> 
> Hello!  I'm having some severe problems with hanging during ftp
> transfers, telnet sessions, and other network connections on a
> system with an Adaptec 2940 ultra-wide controller and an Atlas 3 GB drive.

The obvious thing to say would be `interrupt conflict' so check the
resources of your network interfaces and the SCSI controller.

Doug White                              | University of Oregon  
Internet:  dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu    | Residence Networking Assistant
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite    | Computer Science Major



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Hi!,

 I'm looking for a IDE disk for a FreeBSD workstation (there won't be any heavy
loads on it) and performance is not critical) and came across these IBM drives.

IBM DHEA-34330 Ultra ATA and 
IBM DCAA34300 (http://www.storage.ibm.com/storage/oem/data/desk4.htm)

Specs seems OK.

Heard may good things about IBM SCSI drives.

 Does any one have any experience with the above drives (with FreeBSD)? (seems
lost in this SCSI world :-))

If the above drives are BAD, recommendations for any good IDE drives will be
much appreciated. 

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Ajith.

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My secret spy satellite informs me that on 30-Oct-97, Ajith Pasqual wrote:

>If the above drives are BAD, recommendations for any good IDE drives will
>be
>much appreciated. 

well, to add my $0.02...

YOu can't go wrong with Western Digital.  I've been banging away on my
Western Digital Caviar 1.08 GB for several years now, and it hasn't
complained or done anything weird even once.  My roommate just installed
their 2.1 GB drive, and my friend has been running their 3.6 drive heavily
for about 6 months now, and all reports are A-OK.  I'm very impressed with
their drives, they run fast, they run pretty cool, and they even sound
neat (the 2.1 and 3.6 drives are REALLY QUIET, which is nice when you
sleep in the same room as your machine like my roommate does :) ).  These
are the drives I put into the FreeBSD boxes I build for clients who don't
want SCSI.

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Hi!

If I buy a motherboard with the VT82C590 Apollo VP2/97 chipset, will I
be able to use those fancy DMA and UDMA transfer modes with
FreeBSD(3.0)?

http://www.via.com.tw/vp-2.htm

The motherboard in question is FIC PA-2007, which seems to be a very
good buy.

Maybe someone here has experience with this board?

regards, Tommy(md6tommy@mdstud.chalmers.se)

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I'm about to purchase one of these. Has anybody anything good or bad
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-joe

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admin@mama.vcommunities.com wrote:
> 
> Hello!  I'm having some severe problems with hanging during ftp
> transfers, telnet sessions, and other network connections on a
> system with an Adaptec 2940 ultra-wide controller and an Atlas 3 GB drive.
> The system completely freezes and has to be power cycled.  I'm using
> FreeBSD 2.1.7.1-RELEASE.  I've never had this problem with narrow 2940
> controllers or narrow drives.  Has anyone experienced this, and does
> anyone have any suggestions as to how to fix it?  Thank you!
> 
> S. Taylor,
> VCI Admin

I've had the same problem with a Quantum Fireball 3200U and an Adaptec
2940U (and more besides) on FreeBSD 2.1.7.1-RELEASE. I ended up
disabling the ultra negotiation. Upgrading to 2.2.5-STABLE should be a
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Philipp

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Is anyone successfully running a motorola bitsurfer under FreeBSD?  I got
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Any suggestions?

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Where is everyone buying the SDL RISCom adapters?

Thanx,
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Hello!

Can I somehow set 
fxp0 <Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B Ethernet> rev 1 int a irq 11 on pci0:16
        mapreg[10] type=0 addr=ffaff000 size=1000.
        mapreg[14] type=1 addr=0000ef80 size=0020.
        mapreg[18] type=0 addr=fea00000 size=100000.
        reg16: virtual=0xf5529000 physical=0xffaff000 size=0x1000
running under
FreeBSD cypres.mgt.msk.ru 2.2-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE #0: Fri Oct 31 10:03:10 MSK 1997     tarkhil@cypres.mgt.msk.ru:/mnt/src1/sys/compile/CYPRES  i386

tu full-duplex mode?

Alex.

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>Can I somehow set 
>fxp0 <Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B Ethernet> rev 1 int a irq 11 on pci0:16
>        mapreg[10] type=0 addr=ffaff000 size=1000.
>        mapreg[14] type=1 addr=0000ef80 size=0020.
>        mapreg[18] type=0 addr=fea00000 size=100000.
>        reg16: virtual=0xf5529000 physical=0xffaff000 size=0x1000
>running under
>FreeBSD cypres.mgt.msk.ru 2.2-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE #0: Fri Oct 31 10:03:10 MSK 1997     tarkhil@cypres.mgt.msk.ru:/mnt/src1/sys/compile/CYPRES  i386
>
>tu full-duplex mode?

   If it is connected to a switch that does NWAY negotiation, then it will
automatically set full-duplex. Otherwise, use:

ifconfig fxp0 media 100basetx mediaopt full-duplex

-DG

David Greenman
Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project

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On Fri, 31 Oct 1997 00:50:20 -0800, in sentex.lists.freebsd.misc you
wrote:

>>
>>tu full-duplex mode?
>
>   If it is connected to a switch that does NWAY negotiation, then it will
>automatically set full-duplex. Otherwise, use:
>
>ifconfig fxp0 media 100basetx mediaopt full-duplex

Is there any way to tell after the fact if the card is in full duplex
mode ?



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>On Fri, 31 Oct 1997 00:50:20 -0800, in sentex.lists.freebsd.misc you
>wrote:
>
>>>
>>>tu full-duplex mode?
>>
>>   If it is connected to a switch that does NWAY negotiation, then it will
>>automatically set full-duplex. Otherwise, use:
>>
>>ifconfig fxp0 media 100basetx mediaopt full-duplex
>
>Is there any way to tell after the fact if the card is in full duplex
>mode ?

   No, but trust me. :-)
   Seriously, there really should be a way to sense the mode when it is in
"autoselect" so that it can be displayed with ifconfig.

-DG

David Greenman
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At 04:36 PM 10/31/97 -0800, David Greenman wrote:
>>On Fri, 31 Oct 1997 00:50:20 -0800, in sentex.lists.freebsd.misc you
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>tu full-duplex mode?
>>>
>>>   If it is connected to a switch that does NWAY negotiation, then it will
>>>automatically set full-duplex. Otherwise, use:
>>>
>>>ifconfig fxp0 media 100basetx mediaopt full-duplex
>>
>>Is there any way to tell after the fact if the card is in full duplex
>>mode ?
>
>   No, but trust me. :-)
>   Seriously, there really should be a way to sense the mode when it is in
>"autoselect" so that it can be displayed with ifconfig.

Wow!  Thanks for the quick response... I have a feeling the card is in half
duplex since I am getting a steady stream of collisions (.4%) ... Its
connected to a Cisco 4700 FastE port via cross over cable taking a 5Mbit
ATM feed.  I would have thought the collisions would almost be nonexistant....

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>>   No, but trust me. :-)
>>   Seriously, there really should be a way to sense the mode when it is in
>>"autoselect" so that it can be displayed with ifconfig.
>
>Wow!  Thanks for the quick response... I have a feeling the card is in half
>duplex since I am getting a steady stream of collisions (.4%) ... Its
>connected to a Cisco 4700 FastE port via cross over cable taking a 5Mbit
>ATM feed.  I would have thought the collisions would almost be nonexistant....

   Cisco's don't support NWAY, so you'll have to set the Cisco switch port to
full duplex as well as the fxp.

-DG

David Greenman
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Hey everyone. I have a system with a Quantum Fireball ST 3.2 Gig =
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On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, David Greenman wrote:

> >>   No, but trust me. :-)
> >>   Seriously, there really should be a way to sense the mode when it is in
> >>"autoselect" so that it can be displayed with ifconfig.
> >
> >Wow!  Thanks for the quick response... I have a feeling the card is in half
> >duplex since I am getting a steady stream of collisions (.4%) ... Its
> >connected to a Cisco 4700 FastE port via cross over cable taking a 5Mbit
> >ATM feed.  I would have thought the collisions would almost be nonexistant....
> 
>    Cisco's don't support NWAY, so you'll have to set the Cisco switch port to
> full duplex as well as the fxp.

  The 4700 is router, not a switch.  And yes, you will have to switch it
full duplex.

> -DG
> 
> David Greenman
> Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project

Tom (who is constanting annoyed that all 6 of the 10BT ports on the 4500
here are half-duplex only)




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What is the possibility of getting a PC (either
a laptop or conventional chassis) to boot off of
a PCMCIA card?

The first problem that is apparent is that the
rom bios looks to a conventional hard drive or
floppy for the boot record.  How feasible is it
to hack a bios, or are there new bios implementations
which will boot off of an flash ATA virtual hard
drive?

This business of getting PCs away from moving
media mechanical drives for embedded applications
seems increasingly important.

Charles Mott



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Hi Charles Mott;  On 01-Nov-97 you wrote: 
>  What is the possibility of getting a PC (either
>  a laptop or conventional chassis) to boot off of
>  a PCMCIA card?
>  
>  The first problem that is apparent is that the
>  rom bios looks to a conventional hard drive or
>  floppy for the boot record.  How feasible is it
>  to hack a bios, or are there new bios implementations
>  which will boot off of an flash ATA virtual hard
>  drive?

That is already available, from various vendors.  Popular thing amoung
industrial computers people (noise, dust, vibrations, corosives, you know...

An EXPENSIVE source for these is ICS (Industrial Computer Source) form San
Diego, CA.  they have few which look like IDE drives, few that look like
floppies, etc.  If I remember right (wrote a couple of drivers...), most
PCMCIA FLASH disks can be had either as memory or as IDE.  Some are pretty
clever about write operations, so flash ``wear'' is not as bad.

---
If Microsoft Built Cars:

Every time they repainted the lines on the road, you'd have to buy a new
car.


Sincerely Yours, 

Simon Shapiro                                                 Atlas Telecom
Senior Architect         14355 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 130 Beaverton OR 97005
Shimon@i-Connect.Net                                  Voice:   503.799.2313

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>>    Cisco's don't support NWAY, so you'll have to set the Cisco switch port to
>> full duplex as well as the fxp.
>
>  The 4700 is router, not a switch.  And yes, you will have to switch it
>full duplex.

   My understanding is that the ethernet interface on the 4700 is 'switched'
in hardware - are you saying that this is not true?

-DG

David Greenman
Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project


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Mike Tancsa writes:
 > >
 > >   No, but trust me. :-)
 > >   Seriously, there really should be a way to sense the mode when it is in
 > >"autoselect" so that it can be displayed with ifconfig.
 > 
 > Wow!  Thanks for the quick response... I have a feeling the card is in half
 > duplex since I am getting a steady stream of collisions (.4%) ... Its
 > connected to a Cisco 4700 FastE port via cross over cable taking a 5Mbit
 > ATM feed.  I would have thought the collisions would almost be nonexistant....
 > 
With OS's with good IP stacks, like FreeBSD and some of the other
unixen, you usually hit the second packet in a window coming in with
first reply packet. That accounts for about 1% collisions even with
fairly low speeds. Downgrading to any M$ OS would "fix" the problem.

Pete


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>Mike Tancsa writes:
> > >   No, but trust me. :-)
> > >   Seriously, there really should be a way to sense the mode when it is in
> > >"autoselect" so that it can be displayed with ifconfig.

> > Wow!  Thanks for the quick response... I have a feeling the card is in half
> > duplex since I am getting a steady stream of collisions (.4%) ... Its
> > connected to a Cisco 4700 FastE port via cross over cable taking a 5Mbit
> > ATM feed.  I would have thought the collisions would almost be nonexistant....

>With OS's with good IP stacks, like FreeBSD and some of the other
>unixen, you usually hit the second packet in a window coming in with
>first reply packet. That accounts for about 1% collisions even with
>fairly low speeds. Downgrading to any M$ OS would "fix" the problem.

Do you know, for a fact, that MS IP stacks (from Win95 thru NT Server)
are significantly less efficient than the BSD variety?  Or are you
just slamming MS for the hell of it?

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On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, David Greenman wrote:

> >>    Cisco's don't support NWAY, so you'll have to set the Cisco switch port to
> >> full duplex as well as the fxp.
> >
> >  The 4700 is router, not a switch.  And yes, you will have to switch it
> >full duplex.
> 
>    My understanding is that the ethernet interface on the 4700 is 'switched'
> in hardware - are you saying that this is not true?

  Switched in hardware?  I don't quite know what that means.  The 4700 is
just a basic modular router chasiss (3 slots).  The 4500 uses the same
interface modules as the 4700.  I've got a 4500 with a 6 10BT module in
it, and am considering adding the single fast ethernet module soon.

  The Cisco 4000 series in one of Cisco's most reliable router lines, but
getting a little long in the tooth these days (ie. modules aren't hot
plug).

> -DG
> 
> David Greenman
> Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project

Tom


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> Do you know, for a fact, that MS IP stacks (from Win95 thru NT Server)
> are significantly less efficient than the BSD variety?

Yes, on *exactly* the same hardware, Win95 networking is about half
again as slow as FreeBSD networking.  (In case you missed the point,
this is *exactly* the same, meaning nothing has changed, disk, card,
etc..)

This can be demonstrated on *many* different machines in my office, all
of which are configured differently, from laptops to desktops.




Nate

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Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com writes:
 > 
 > >With OS's with good IP stacks, like FreeBSD and some of the other
 > >unixen, you usually hit the second packet in a window coming in with
 > >first reply packet. That accounts for about 1% collisions even with
 > >fairly low speeds. Downgrading to any M$ OS would "fix" the problem.
 > 
 > Do you know, for a fact, that MS IP stacks (from Win95 thru NT Server)
 > are significantly less efficient than the BSD variety?  Or are you
 > just slamming MS for the hell of it?
 > 
While FreeBSD with P166 can easily fill a 100Mbps pipe, same hardware
running NT or 95 comes up to around 30-45Mbps. There are multiple
independent studies available on the web to confirm this story, with
FreeBSD, Solaris x86, etc...

Pete

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Can people share how they tune their waveLAN drivers?  I have played
with machdep.wl_xmit_delay (in sysctl) and find that with my AMD
K6/200MHz machine it is best at about 600-750 us.

However, with my point-point link (I am using two directional antennae
over a distance), I am dropping about 8-10% of packets.  This causes
erratic behavior, presumably because of TCP backoff.  What is the best
way to tune this so that you get optimal performance?  Any other tips?



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I have ATX motherboard in my FreeBSD box and would like to
turn the power off with the reboot(8) -p but that does not work.

Does it work or not?

Thordur Ivarsson

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> Can people share how they tune their waveLAN drivers?  I have played
> with machdep.wl_xmit_delay (in sysctl) and find that with my AMD
> K6/200MHz machine it is best at about 600-750 us.

Increase it until you don't get any interrupt timeouts.  Stop there. 8)

> However, with my point-point link (I am using two directional antennae
> over a distance), I am dropping about 8-10% of packets.  This causes
> erratic behavior, presumably because of TCP backoff.  What is the best
> way to tune this so that you get optimal performance?  Any other tips?

Have you run ptpdiag over the link to check the basic characteristics
therof?  It sounds like you're suffering from some 'real' link quality 
problems that no amount of tuning can help you with.  Are there other
units in the vicinity?

mike



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> > However, with my point-point link (I am using two directional antennae
> > over a distance), I am dropping about 8-10% of packets.  This causes
> > erratic behavior, presumably because of TCP backoff.  What is the best
> > way to tune this so that you get optimal performance?  Any other tips?
> 
> Have you run ptpdiag over the link to check the basic characteristics
> therof?  It sounds like you're suffering from some 'real' link quality 
> problems that no amount of tuning can help you with.  Are there other
> units in the vicinity?
> 
> mike
> 

What and where is ptpdiag?  It sounds interesting, but I can't locate
it on the FreeBSD 2.2.2 distribution CD.

Charles Mott