From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jul 26 22:27:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA13042 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ren.dtir.qld.gov.au (firewall-user@ns.dtir.qld.gov.au [203.108.138.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA13033; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:27:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syssgm@dtir.qld.gov.au) Received: by ren.dtir.qld.gov.au; id PAA27529; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 15:26:13 +1000 (EST) Received: from ogre.dtir.qld.gov.au(167.123.8.3) by ren.dtir.qld.gov.au via smap (3.2) id xma027510; Mon, 27 Jul 98 15:26:08 +1000 Received: from atlas.dtir.qld.gov.au (atlas.dtir.qld.gov.au [167.123.8.9]) by ogre.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA24797; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 15:26:08 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au (nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au [167.123.10.10]) by atlas.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17378; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 15:26:08 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au (localhost.dtir.qld.gov.au [127.0.0.1]) by nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA28201; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 15:26:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from syssgm@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au) Message-Id: <199807270526.PAA28201@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au> To: Greg Lehey cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, syssgm@dtir.qld.gov.au Subject: Re: Summary of final changes to FreeBSD 2.2.7 References: <19980725111837.F716@freebie.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <19980725111837.F716@freebie.lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Sat, 25 Jul 1998 11:18:37 +0930" Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 15:26:06 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 25th July 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: >While I agree with this sentiment, I think we should bear in mind that >it could have been better. This time, for some reason, there were a >lot of dissenting voices in the mailing lists. Didn't we use to do a >Beta release? Have you watched what happens when there is an aggressive beta release program? Everyone gets really excited and sticks untested things in at the last moment, the beta goes over time, people get sick of the delay, and out it goes warts and all. I was a little surprised to see Jordan stick to his schedule even though I'd forgotten about it. But the end result, I think, will be more stable than previous releases *because* it caught everyone by surprise. >If Jordan had released 2.2.7 beta on Monday (or even >the Wednesday before) and let people download it, within a week the >rough edges would have been knocked off, there would have been less >stress, and less idiots sending out messages saying that FreeBSD 2.2.7 >was a load of shit. Hmm. I don't think I agree. It looks to me like the rough edges got knocked off in record time, and the only down side was a lot of ill informed ranting on the lists. There's ill informed ranting all the time, so that doesn't concern me much. And my 2.2.7 machine works just fine. Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message