From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Aug 18 14:23:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28571 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:23:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA28546; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:23:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-root@i-zone.demon.co.uk) Received: from (i-zone.demon.co.uk) [158.152.227.78] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0z8tDO-00057i-00; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:22:51 +0000 Message-ID: <9XmjECAXbK21EwbF@i-zone.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 22:55:35 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG From: John Subject: XFree fullscreen on laptop problems (CT65548 chipset) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 4.00 beta 10 <8P7LwQhRCnIWQRT3OpZyTlnKDO> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Experts (also cc'd to freebsd-mobile) OK. This one has me doing the headless chicken dance. I have got X to work on my laptop OK, the final problem is getting it to use the entire screen. The screen is an 11" TFT screen on a Toshiba Satellite 110CT laptop. The video card is a chips & technologies CT65548 (1 MB). I am using the SVGA server with Xfree 3.3.2.2 on FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE The problem is that though it loads into 800x600@8bpp there is a 1 inch gap around the entire screen. I have played with the option settings below with the help from the c&t section of the xfree86 website. The lcd-center option is required otherwise the display is shifted to the left corner. I calculate that I would have to have more than 1MB video ram to run at better than 800x600@8bpp - am I correct? I hope the stuff below gives you enough information. I have exhausted my expertise in this area. The first bit is the relevant section from XF86Config, the second bit is standard error when startx is invoked. Any thoughts on this, or a XF86Config known to work with this chipset, are appreciated. Thanks # Device configured by xf86config: Section "Device" ] Identifier "Chips & Technologies CT65548" VendorName "chips & technologies" BoardName "CT65548" VideoRam 1024 # Option "noaccel" # Option "no_bitblt" # Option "xaa_no_color_exp" Option "xaa_benchmark" # Option "sw_cursor" # Option "mmio" # Option "use_18bit_bus" Option "hw_clocks" # Textclockfreq 25.175 # Option "nolinear" # MemBase 0x03b00000 # Device section for C&T cards. Option "lcd_center" Option "suspend_hack" # Option "STN" # Option "no_stretch" # Option "no_center" # Option "use_modeline" # Option "fix_panel_size" # videoram 512 # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** # The Colour SVGA serverSection "Screen" Driver "svga" # Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256 #Device "Generic VGA" Device "Chips & Technologies CT65548" Monitor "toshiba lcd panel" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 # Omit the Modes line for the "Generic VGA" device Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" ViewPort 0 0 # Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection # The 16-color VGA server Section "Screen" Driver "vga16" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "toshiba lcd panel" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The Mono server Section "Screen" Driver "vga2" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "toshiba lcd panel" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, #Mach64) Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "Chips & Technologies CT65548" Monitor "toshiba lcd panel" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "800x600" "1024x768" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection XFree86 Version 3.3.2.3 / X Window System(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)Release Date: July 15 1998 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems.(see http://www .XFree86.Org/FAQ)Operating System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386 Configured drivers: SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0): NV1, STG2000, RIVA128, ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i,ET4000W32i_rev_b, ET4000W32i_rev_c, ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a, ET4000W32p_rev_b, ET4000W32p_rev_c, ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100, et3000, pvga1, wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33, gvga, ati, sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b, tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi, tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660, tgui9680, tgui9682, tgui9685, cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9520, 3dimage975, 3dimage985, clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428, clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd5446, clgd5480, clgd5462, clgd5464, clgd5465, clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, clgd7541, clgd7542, clgd7543, clgd7548, clgd7555, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, cpq_avga, mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, oti067, oti077, oti087, oti037c, al2101, ali2228, ali2301, ali2302, ali2308, ali2401, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7, ark1000vl, ark1000pv, ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek, AP6422, AT24, AT3D, s3_virge, s3_svga, ct65520, ct65525, ct65530, ct65535, ct65540, ct65545, ct65546, ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ct65555, ct68554, ct64200, ct64300, genericUsing syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)(using VT number 4)XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) XKB: keycodes: "xfree86" (**) XKB: types: "default" (**) XKB: compat: "default" (**) XKB: symbols: "en_US(pc102)+gb" (**) XKB: geometry: "pc" (**) Mouse: type: MouseSystems, device: /dev/sysmouse, baudrate: 1200 (**) Mouse: buttons: 3, 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms) (**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "Chips & Technologies CT65548" (**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "toshiba lcd panel" (--) SVGA: Mode "640x400" needs vert refresh rate of 69.93 Hz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 35.52 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "640x400" needs hsync freq of 37.86 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 36.46 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 37.50 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "640x400" needs hsync freq of 43.27 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 43.92 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 48.36 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 53.01 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 53.51 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 55.84 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 51.02 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 64.02 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 62.50 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 62.42 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 80.21 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 87.50 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 89.62 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 91.15 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "512x384" needs vert refresh rate of 77.97 Hz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "512x384" needs vert refresh rate of 85.09 Hz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "320x200" needs vert refresh rate of 69.93 Hz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "320x240" needs hsync freq of 39.38 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 37.80 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 39.56 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted. (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11 R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" (--) SVGA: CHIPS: chip revision: 4 (--) SVGA: Chipset: ct65548 (--) SVGA: CHIPS: no monitor detected. (**) SVGA: CHIPS: 1024 kB VRAM (--) SVGA: CHIPS: TFT probed. (--) SVGA: CHIPS: LCD (--) SVGA: CHIPS: Display Size: x=800; y=600 (--) SVGA: CHIPS: VL Bus (--) SVGA: CHIPS: base address is set at 0x7800000. (--) SVGA: CHIPS: Linear addressing is enabled at 0x7800000. (--) SVGA: CHIPS: syncronous reset ignored. (--) SVGA: CHIPS: Textmode Clock: 4. (--) SVGA: chipset: ct65548 (**) SVGA: videoram: 1024k (--) SVGA: clocks: 25.17 28.32 31.50 35.49 40.09 (**) SVGA: Option "hw_clocks" (**) SVGA: Option "lcd_center" (**) SVGA: Option "lcd_centre" (**) SVGA: Option "xaa_benchmark" (**) SVGA: Option "suspend_hack" (**) SVGA: Using 8 bpp, Depth 8, Color weight: 666 (--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 80.000 MHz (**) SVGA: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 25.175, clock used = 25.170 (--) SVGA: There is no mode definition named "800x600" (--) SVGA: Removing mode "800x600" from list of valid modes. (--) SVGA: There is no mode definition named "1024x768" (--) SVGA: Removing mode "1024x768" from list of valid modes. (--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 640x480 (--) SVGA: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024 (--) SVGA: CHIPS: 741376 bytes off-screen memory available (--) SVGA: CHIPS: H/W cursor selected (--) SVGA: CHIPS: SpeedUps selected (Flags=0xF) (--) SVGA: Using XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture) (--) SVGA: XAA: Solid filled rectangles (--) SVGA: XAA: Screen-to-screen copy (--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 pattern fill (--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 color expand pattern fill (--) SVGA: XAA: CPU to screen color expansion (bitmap, TE/NonTE imagetext, TE/NonTE polytext) (--) SVGA: XAA: Using 5 128x128 areas for pixmap caching (--) SVGA: XAA: Caching tiles and stipples (--) SVGA: XAA: Horizontal and vertical lines and segmentsCPU to framebuffer 13.28 Mpix/sec (13.28 MB/s)10x1 solid rectangle fill 4.36 Mpix/sec (4.36 MB/s)40x40 solid rectangle fill 59.96 Mpix/sec (59.96 MB/s)400x400 solid rectangle fill 93.36 Mpix/sec (93.36 MB/s)10x10 screen copy 16.45 Mpix/sec (16.45 MB/s)40x40 screen copy 37.59 Mpix/sec (37.59 MB/s)400x400 screen copy 33.17 Mpix/sec (33.17 MB/s)400x400 aligned screen copy (scroll) 40.78 Mpix/sec (40.78 MB/s)10x10 8x8 pattern fill 13.00 Mpix/sec (13.00 MB/s)400x400 8x8 pattern fill 87.34 Mpix/sec (87.34 MB/s)10x10 8x8 color expand pattern fill 19.62 Mpix/sec (19.62 MB/s)400x400 8x8 color expand pattern fill 93.97 Mpix/sec (93.97 MB/s)10x10 CPU-to-screen color expand 2.02 Mpix/sec (2.02 MB/s)416x400 CPU-to-screen color expand 93.78 Mpix/sec (93.78 MB/s) waiting for X server to shut down X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). xterm: fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server ":0.0" xterm: fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server ":0.0" -- John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Aug 19 00:45:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05990 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 00:45:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05980; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 00:45:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dirk.vangulik@jrc.it) Received: from elpc36.jrc.it (elpc36.jrc.it [139.191.71.36]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5688) with ESMTP id JAA16309; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 09:45:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dirkx@localhost) by elpc36.jrc.it (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA17430; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 09:46:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dirkx) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 09:46:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik X-Sender: dirkx@elpc36.jrc.it To: John cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree fullscreen on laptop problems (CT65548 chipset) In-Reply-To: <9XmjECAXbK21EwbF@i-zone.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Check might want to check the manual, the 112CT model as an Fn+F key short cut to make the screen bigger/smaller. Once done, it stays that way, across reboots, until the battery goes really dry. DW On Mon, 17 Aug 1998, John wrote: > Hello Experts > > (also cc'd to freebsd-mobile) > > OK. This one has me doing the headless chicken dance. > > I have got X to work on my laptop OK, the final problem is getting it to > use the entire screen. The screen is an 11" TFT screen on a Toshiba > Satellite 110CT laptop. The video card is a chips & technologies CT65548 > (1 MB). I am using the SVGA server with Xfree 3.3.2.2 on FreeBSD > 2.2.7-RELEASE > > The problem is that though it loads into 800x600@8bpp there is a 1 inch > gap around the entire screen. I have played with the option settings > below with the help from the c&t section of the xfree86 website. The > lcd-center option is required otherwise the display is shifted to the > left corner. > > I calculate that I would have to have more than 1MB video ram to run at > better than 800x600@8bpp - am I correct? > > I hope the stuff below gives you enough information. I have exhausted my > expertise in this area. The first bit is the relevant section from > XF86Config, the second bit is standard error when startx is invoked. > > Any thoughts on this, or a XF86Config known to work with this chipset, > are appreciated. > > Thanks > > # Device configured by xf86config: > Section "Device" ] > Identifier "Chips & Technologies CT65548" > VendorName "chips & technologies" > BoardName "CT65548" > VideoRam 1024 > # Option "noaccel" > # Option "no_bitblt" > # Option "xaa_no_color_exp" > Option "xaa_benchmark" > # Option "sw_cursor" > # Option "mmio" > # Option "use_18bit_bus" > Option "hw_clocks" > # Textclockfreq 25.175 > # Option "nolinear" > # MemBase 0x03b00000 > # Device section for C&T cards. > Option "lcd_center" > Option "suspend_hack" > # Option "STN" > # Option "no_stretch" > # Option "no_center" > # Option "use_modeline" > # Option "fix_panel_size" > # videoram 512 > # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate > EndSection > # ********************************************************************** > # Screen sections > # ********************************************************************** > # The Colour SVGA serverSection > "Screen" Driver "svga" > # Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256 > #Device "Generic VGA" > Device "Chips & Technologies CT65548" > Monitor "toshiba lcd panel" > Subsection "Display" > Depth 8 > # Omit the Modes line for the "Generic VGA" device > Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" > ViewPort 0 0 > # Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA > EndSubsection > > Subsection "Display" > Depth 16 > Modes "640x480" "800x600" > ViewPort 0 0 > EndSubsection > > Subsection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "640x480" > ViewPort 0 0 > EndSubsection > EndSection > > # The 16-color VGA server > Section "Screen" > Driver "vga16" > Device "Generic VGA" > Monitor "toshiba lcd panel" > Subsection "Display" > Modes "640x480" "800x600" > ViewPort 0 0 > Virtual 800 600 > EndSubsection > EndSection > > # The Mono server > Section "Screen" > Driver "vga2" > Device "Generic VGA" > Monitor "toshiba lcd panel" > Subsection "Display" > Modes "640x480" "800x600" > ViewPort 0 0 > Virtual 800 600 > EndSubsection > EndSection > > # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, > #Mach64) > > Section "Screen" > Driver "accel" > Device "Chips & Technologies CT65548" > Monitor "toshiba lcd panel" > Subsection "Display" > Depth 8 > Modes "800x600" "1024x768" > ViewPort 0 0 > EndSubsection > > Subsection "Display" > Depth 16 > Modes "800x600" > ViewPort 0 0 > EndSubsection > EndSection > > > > XFree86 Version 3.3.2.3 / X Window System(protocol Version 11, revision > 0, vendor release 6300)Release Date: July 15 1998 If the server is > older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above > date, look for a newer version before reporting problems.(see http://www > .XFree86.Org/FAQ)Operating System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386 Configured > drivers: SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0): NV1, > STG2000, RIVA128, ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i,ET4000W32i_rev_b, > ET4000W32i_rev_c, ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a, ET4000W32p_rev_b, > ET4000W32p_rev_c, ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100, et3000, pvga1, > wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33, gvga, ati, > sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, > tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b, > tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi, > tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660, tgui9680, tgui9682, tgui9685, > cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9520, 3dimage975, > 3dimage985, clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428, > clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd5446, clgd5480, > clgd5462, clgd5464, clgd5465, clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, > clgd7541, clgd7542, clgd7543, clgd7548, clgd7555, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, > cpq_avga, mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, oti067, oti077, > oti087, oti037c, al2101, ali2228, ali2301, ali2302, ali2308, ali2401, > cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7, ark1000vl, ark1000pv, > ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek, AP6422, AT24, AT3D, s3_virge, > s3_svga, ct65520, ct65525, ct65530, ct65535, ct65540, ct65545, > ct65546, ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ct65555, ct68554, ct64200, > ct64300, genericUsing syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)(using > VT number 4)XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config > > (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values > > (**) XKB: keycodes: "xfree86" > (**) XKB: types: "default" > (**) XKB: compat: "default" > (**) XKB: symbols: "en_US(pc102)+gb" > (**) XKB: geometry: "pc" > (**) Mouse: type: MouseSystems, device: /dev/sysmouse, baudrate: 1200 > (**) Mouse: buttons: 3, 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms) > (**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "Chips & Technologies CT65548" > (**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "toshiba lcd panel" > (--) SVGA: Mode "640x400" needs vert refresh rate of 69.93 Hz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 35.52 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "640x400" needs hsync freq of 37.86 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 36.46 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 37.50 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "640x400" needs hsync freq of 43.27 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 43.92 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 48.36 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 53.01 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 53.51 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 55.84 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 51.02 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 64.02 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 62.50 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 62.42 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 80.21 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 87.50 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 89.62 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 91.15 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "512x384" needs vert refresh rate of 77.97 Hz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "512x384" needs vert refresh rate of 85.09 Hz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "320x200" needs vert refresh rate of 69.93 Hz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "320x240" needs hsync freq of 39.38 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 37.80 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 39.56 kHz. Deleted. > (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted. > (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ > fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11 > R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > > (--) SVGA: CHIPS: chip revision: 4 > (--) SVGA: Chipset: ct65548 > (--) SVGA: CHIPS: no monitor detected. > (**) SVGA: CHIPS: 1024 kB VRAM > (--) SVGA: CHIPS: TFT probed. > (--) SVGA: CHIPS: LCD > (--) SVGA: CHIPS: Display Size: x=800; y=600 > (--) SVGA: CHIPS: VL Bus > (--) SVGA: CHIPS: base address is set at 0x7800000. > (--) SVGA: CHIPS: Linear addressing is enabled at 0x7800000. > (--) SVGA: CHIPS: syncronous reset ignored. > (--) SVGA: CHIPS: Textmode Clock: 4. > (--) SVGA: chipset: ct65548 > (**) SVGA: videoram: 1024k > (--) SVGA: clocks: 25.17 28.32 31.50 35.49 40.09 > (**) SVGA: Option "hw_clocks" > (**) SVGA: Option "lcd_center" > (**) SVGA: Option "lcd_centre" > (**) SVGA: Option "xaa_benchmark" > (**) SVGA: Option "suspend_hack" > (**) SVGA: Using 8 bpp, Depth 8, Color weight: 666 > (--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 80.000 MHz > (**) SVGA: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 25.175, clock used = 25.170 > (--) SVGA: There is no mode definition named "800x600" > (--) SVGA: Removing mode "800x600" from list of valid modes. > (--) SVGA: There is no mode definition named "1024x768" > (--) SVGA: Removing mode "1024x768" from list of valid modes. > (--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 640x480 > (--) SVGA: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024 > (--) SVGA: CHIPS: 741376 bytes off-screen memory available > (--) SVGA: CHIPS: H/W cursor selected > (--) SVGA: CHIPS: SpeedUps selected (Flags=0xF) > (--) SVGA: Using XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture) > (--) SVGA: XAA: Solid filled rectangles > (--) SVGA: XAA: Screen-to-screen copy > (--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 pattern fill > (--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 color expand pattern fill > (--) SVGA: XAA: CPU to screen color expansion (bitmap, TE/NonTE > imagetext, TE/NonTE polytext) > > (--) SVGA: XAA: Using 5 128x128 areas for pixmap caching > (--) SVGA: XAA: Caching tiles and stipples > (--) SVGA: XAA: Horizontal and vertical lines and segmentsCPU to > framebuffer > > 13.28 Mpix/sec (13.28 MB/s)10x1 solid rectangle fill > 4.36 Mpix/sec (4.36 MB/s)40x40 solid rectangle fill > 59.96 Mpix/sec (59.96 MB/s)400x400 solid rectangle fill > 93.36 Mpix/sec (93.36 MB/s)10x10 screen copy > 16.45 Mpix/sec (16.45 MB/s)40x40 screen copy > 37.59 Mpix/sec (37.59 MB/s)400x400 screen copy > 33.17 Mpix/sec (33.17 MB/s)400x400 aligned screen copy (scroll) > 40.78 Mpix/sec (40.78 MB/s)10x10 8x8 pattern fill > 13.00 Mpix/sec (13.00 MB/s)400x400 8x8 pattern fill > 87.34 Mpix/sec (87.34 MB/s)10x10 8x8 color expand pattern fill > 19.62 Mpix/sec (19.62 MB/s)400x400 8x8 color expand pattern fill > 93.97 Mpix/sec (93.97 MB/s)10x10 CPU-to-screen color expand > 2.02 Mpix/sec (2.02 MB/s)416x400 CPU-to-screen color expand > 93.78 Mpix/sec (93.78 MB/s) > > waiting for X server to shut down X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit > kill or server shutdown). > xterm: fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server ":0.0" > xterm: fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server ":0.0" > > -- > John > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Aug 19 03:07:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19439 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 03:07:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kinetic.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (kinetic.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.10.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA19432 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 03:07:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@cs.uni-frankfurt.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kinetic.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA03033 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:00:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marko@cs.uni-frankfurt.de) To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: media select and DLink DE-650? Reply-To: marko@cs.uni-frankfurt.de X-Mailer: Mew version 1.92.4 on Emacs 19.34 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980819120058L.marko@cs.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:00:58 +0200 From: Marko Schuetz X-Dispatcher: imput version 971024 Lines: 23 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does the DE-650 need a media selection to use 10BaseT instead of BNC? I get kinetic# ifconfig -m ed0 ed0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 141.2.10.65 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 141.2.10.255 ether 00:80:c8:83:b9:a1 and kinetic# ifconfig ed0 media 10BaseT ifconfig: SIOCGIFMEDIA: Invalid argument How do I tell the DE-650 to use 10BaseT? Or does it use both 10BaseT and BNC? I have one environment using BNC: everything works fine and tried using it in another environment with 10BaseT, but ping reported 100% packet loss. Marko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Aug 19 10:37:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23154 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:37:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23148 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:37:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA21296; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:36:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:36:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Marko Schuetz cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: media select and DLink DE-650? In-Reply-To: <19980819120058L.marko@cs.uni-frankfurt.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Marko Schuetz wrote: > Does the DE-650 need a media selection to use 10BaseT instead > of BNC? > > I get > > kinetic# ifconfig -m ed0 > ed0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 141.2.10.65 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 141.2.10.255 > ether 00:80:c8:83:b9:a1 > > and > > kinetic# ifconfig ed0 media 10BaseT > ifconfig: SIOCGIFMEDIA: Invalid argument > > How do I tell the DE-650 to use 10BaseT? Or does it use both 10BaseT > and BNC? Use link flags instead; the ed driver doesn't support media flags yet. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Aug 19 13:05:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19123 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:05:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19080 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:05:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iain@sandon.on.ca) Received: from sandon.on.ca (slip129-37-160-140.on.ca.ibm.net [129.37.160.140]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA59642; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 20:04:14 GMT Message-ID: <35DB2E97.22AB2414@sandon.on.ca> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:59:19 -0400 From: Iain Campbell Reply-To: iain@sandon.on.ca Organization: sandon associates X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: marko@cs.uni-frankfurt.de CC: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: media select and DLink DE-650? References: <19980819120058L.marko@cs.uni-frankfurt.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marko Schuetz wrote: > > Does the DE-650 need a media selection to use 10BaseT instead > of BNC? Yes - DLink supplies a tiny DOS utility to do the deed. I can email it to you if you need it ... > > I get > > kinetic# ifconfig -m ed0 > ed0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 141.2.10.65 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 141.2.10.255 > ether 00:80:c8:83:b9:a1 > > and > > kinetic# ifconfig ed0 media 10BaseT > ifconfig: SIOCGIFMEDIA: Invalid argument > > How do I tell the DE-650 to use 10BaseT? Or does it use both 10BaseT > and BNC? > > I have one environment using BNC: everything works fine and tried > using it in another environment with 10BaseT, but ping reported 100% > packet loss. > > Marko > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message -- Iain Campbell - Senior Associate sandon associates 520 Second Street West Owen Sound On Tel (519) 371-6242 FAX (519) 371-4417 email iain@sandon.on.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Aug 20 06:23:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14891 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 06:23:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns0.netcraft.co.uk (ns0.netcraft.co.uk [195.188.192.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14881 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 06:23:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jez@netcraft.co.uk) Received: (from jez@localhost) by ns0.netcraft.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08194 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:22:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jez) From: Jeremy Prior Message-Id: <199808201322.OAA08194@ns0.netcraft.co.uk> Subject: FreeBSD Notebook recommendations sought To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:22:09 +0100 (BST) X-Netcraft-Loop: jez@netcraft.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All, I'm looking to buy a Notebook/Laptop computer specifically to run FreeBSD. When mobile, this machine will be carted around client sites and run as a surrogate desktop machine. When stationary, it'll just be a desktop machine. Therefore, my criteria are: - Good Connectivity (ability to use various Ethernet technologies easily, as I'll not know in advance what I'm going to need); - Ability to drive an external screen at a good X resolution (1024x768x256 or better at >= 75Hz) - Ability to attach external keyboard and mouse I'm not worried about: - Large builtin screen; - Long battery life; or any of the other details that are usually associated with laptops - this is going to be a portable desktop machine. Other details: - Disk capacity is more important than processor speed (providing the processor is Pentium MMX or better) - I'd go for a `named' brand over `no-named'. - UK availability preferred (but don't let that put you off). I run -stable at work, but would not be adverse to running -current if necessary. I'm not that fussed about multi-media paraphernalia, but I'd prefer mediocre but supported features over whizzo unsupported ones any day :-) Basically, which machines (or just manufacturers) are best supported by FreeBSD? Thanks in advance, jez -- Jeremy Prior http://www.netcraft.co.uk/ Netcraft Ltd, 1 Somerset Street, Bath, BA1 1TS, England. Tel: +44-1225-404405 (direct-dial) Fax: +44-1225-404401 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Aug 20 07:07:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19371 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 07:07:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dillinger.io.com (dillinger.io.com [199.170.88.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19355 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 07:07:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mib@dillinger.io.com) Received: (from mib@localhost) by dillinger.io.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id JAA02280; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:06:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980820090648.A1439@io.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:06:48 -0500 From: mib@io.com To: jez@netcraft.co.uk Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Notebook recommendations sought References: <199808201322.OAA08194@ns0.netcraft.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199808201322.OAA08194@ns0.netcraft.co.uk>; from Jeremy Prior on Thu, Aug 20, 1998 at 02:22:09PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 20, 1998 at 02:22:09PM +0100, Jeremy Prior wrote: > Basically, which machines (or just manufacturers) are best supported > by FreeBSD? Well, from the looks of the Laptop Survey at... http://www.jp.freebsd.org/PAO/latest/docs/LAPTOP_SURVEY/LTS.txt ... it would seem either an IBM ThinkPad or Toshiba Libretto. -- http://www.io.com/~mib/ | "Say what you know, do what you must, come what may." 41.035437 N 73.567253 W | 3490 FE89 45E8 27B8 234A 153E 5FA5 F587 4243 FE81 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Aug 20 14:06:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23688 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:06:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23681 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:06:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fyeung@netific.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA20007 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 13:26:24 -0700 From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199808202026.NAA20007@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: IBM ThinkPAD 355c To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 13:26:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, I have a IBM ThinkPAD 355c which has a 8M RAM, 250M hard disk and an EFA PCMCIA Ethernet card. I tried to install it from a SCSI CDROM drive using a SIIG SCSIWiz pcmcia card but it couldn't detect the SCSI interface. Does any one have experience with similiar setup ? Thank you for your help. Francis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Aug 20 14:34:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28314 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:34:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from red.juniper.net (red.juniper.net [208.197.169.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28303 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:34:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tli@juniper.net) Received: from chimp.juniper.net (chimp.juniper.net [208.197.169.196]) by red.juniper.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28445; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tli@localhost) by chimp.juniper.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) id OAA15927; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199808202133.OAA15927@chimp.juniper.net> From: Tony Li To: hosokawa@jp.FreeBSD.org cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Subject: [Laptop Survey] Sony Vaio PCG-505G Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tony Li tli@juniper.net Sony Vaio PCG-505G 200Mhz Pentium 32MB 2GB Phoenix 4.0 R 6.0 OK 2.2.6 PAO-980430 OK R0106R5 Intel 82365 DEC RoamAbout 915Mhz (wlp0) 3com 3C589D-COMBO (ep0) - Unit uses the NeoMagic chipset, which is not supported by XFree86. - Hibernation does not shut off the LCD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Aug 20 14:49:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01755 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:49:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01749 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:49:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkb@best.com) Received: from localhost (jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.sh) with SMTP id OAA12193; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:48:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell6.ba.best.com: jkb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:48:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jan B. Koum " X-Sender: jkb@shell6.ba.best.com To: Tony Li cc: hosokawa@jp.FreeBSD.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Subject: [Laptop Survey] Sony Vaio PCG-505G In-Reply-To: <199808202133.OAA15927@chimp.juniper.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am using commercial laptop X server from XiG (www.xig.com) which supports NeoMagic just fine FWIW. -- Yan www.best.com/~jkb/ Unix users of the world unite: www.{free,open,net}bsd.org | www.linux.org | www.apache.org | www.perl.com "Turn up the lights, I don't want to go home in the dark." On Thu, 20 Aug 1998, Tony Li wrote: > > > > Tony Li > tli@juniper.net > Sony Vaio PCG-505G > 200Mhz Pentium > 32MB > 2GB > Phoenix 4.0 R 6.0 > OK > 2.2.6 > PAO-980430 > OK > R0106R5 > > Intel 82365 > DEC RoamAbout 915Mhz (wlp0) > > > > 3com 3C589D-COMBO (ep0) > > > > > > >- Unit uses the NeoMagic chipset, which is not supported by XFree86. >- Hibernation does not shut off the LCD. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Aug 20 14:51:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02281 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:51:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from red.juniper.net (red.juniper.net [208.197.169.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02264 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:51:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tli@juniper.net) Received: from chimp.juniper.net (chimp.juniper.net [208.197.169.196]) by red.juniper.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29694; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tli@localhost) by chimp.juniper.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) id OAA15993; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199808202149.OAA15993@chimp.juniper.net> From: Tony Li To: jkb@best.com CC: hosokawa@jp.FreeBSD.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (jkb@best.com) Subject: Re: Subject: [Laptop Survey] Sony Vaio PCG-505G Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | I am using commercial laptop X server from XiG (www.xig.com) which | supports NeoMagic just fine FWIW. As am I, however, I was trying to avoid giving them a plug. Tony To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Aug 20 15:00:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04503 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:00:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from exosecure-eloan.eloan.com (exosecure-eloan.eloan.com [209.1.1.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA04438 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:00:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennanh@eloan.com) Received: from [10.1.0.94] by exosecure-eloan.eloan.com via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) with SMTP; 20 Aug 1998 21:55:26 UT Received: from eloan.com (brennanh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maui.eloan.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA13191 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:02:52 -0700 Message-ID: <35DC9D0C.DEF86BA6@eloan.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:02:52 -0700 From: Brennan Hildebrand X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Subject: [Laptop Survey] Sony Vaio PCG-505G References: <199808202133.OAA15927@chimp.juniper.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Redhat does have an XServer for the neomagic chipset for linux. I don't know if linux compat will work with FreeBSD, though. -brennan Tony Li wrote: > > > > Tony Li > tli@juniper.net > Sony Vaio PCG-505G > 200Mhz Pentium > 32MB > 2GB > Phoenix 4.0 R 6.0 > OK > 2.2.6 > PAO-980430 > OK > R0106R5 > > Intel 82365 > DEC RoamAbout 915Mhz (wlp0) > > > > 3com 3C589D-COMBO (ep0) > > > > > > > - Unit uses the NeoMagic chipset, which is not supported by XFree86. > - Hibernation does not shut off the LCD. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Aug 20 15:17:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08522 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:17:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08514 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:17:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkb@best.com) Received: from localhost (jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.sh) with SMTP id PAA18246; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:16:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell6.ba.best.com: jkb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:16:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jan B. Koum " X-Sender: jkb@shell6.ba.best.com To: Tony Li cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Subject: [Laptop Survey] Sony Vaio PCG-505G In-Reply-To: <199808202149.OAA15993@chimp.juniper.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well.. this probably doesn't belong on mobile anymore, but... I actually dont' mind giving a plug to companies which support open source, especially FreeBSD. Hell, they also made good product: I am very happy with it. Honest. No plug. :) -- Yan www.best.com/~jkb/ Unix users of the world unite: www.{free,open,net}bsd.org | www.linux.org | www.apache.org | www.perl.com "Turn up the lights, I don't want to go home in the dark." On Thu, 20 Aug 1998, Tony Li wrote: > >| I am using commercial laptop X server from XiG (www.xig.com) which >| supports NeoMagic just fine FWIW. > > >As am I, however, I was trying to avoid giving them a plug. > >Tony > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Aug 20 15:57:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14010 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:57:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp-c0f.dialup.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13989 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:57:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00592; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:55:20 GMT (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199808201555.PAA00592@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Jeremy Prior cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Notebook recommendations sought In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:22:09 +0100." <199808201322.OAA08194@ns0.netcraft.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:55:18 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > All, > I'm looking to buy a Notebook/Laptop computer specifically to > run FreeBSD. When mobile, this machine will be carted around client > sites and run as a surrogate desktop machine. When stationary, > it'll just be a desktop machine. > > Therefore, my criteria are: > > - Good Connectivity (ability to use various Ethernet technologies easily, > as I'll not know in advance what I'm going to need); Buy an NE2000 combo PCCARD that handles multiple media automatically. Eg. the Accton EN2216. > - Ability to drive an external screen at a good X resolution (1024x768x256 > or better at >= 75Hz) > - Ability to attach external keyboard and mouse Almost all will do this. > Other details: > - Disk capacity is more important than processor speed (providing the > processor is Pentium MMX or better) Buy a machine with the smallest disk you can, and take it out. Buy one of the 6GB or 8GB laptop disks as well. I bought a 6GB Toshiba unit for about US$500 including shipping. (www.cmpexpress.com) Make sure you buy a memory upgrade too. > - I'd go for a `named' brand over `no-named'. The Toshiba Satellite machines seem pretty rebust. As a bonus, they're sufficiently 'mainstream' that you can get third-party (read cheap) memory upgrades. > Basically, which machines (or just manufacturers) are best supported > by FreeBSD? More specifically, you want to look for machines within a manufacturer's range that contain supported peripherals. Eg. you might want to favour one with a C&T video chipset over one with NeoMagic hardware, and one with selectable PCCARD/CardBUS slots over one that only supports CardBUS. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Aug 20 17:48:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29796 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 17:48:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29778 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 17:48:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA12957; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 01:47:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199808210047.BAA12957@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Tony Li cc: hosokawa@jp.FreeBSD.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Subject: [Laptop Survey] Sony Vaio PCG-505G In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:33:54 PDT." <199808202133.OAA15927@chimp.juniper.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 01:47:43 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > > > > Tony Li > > tli@juniper.net > > Sony Vaio PCG-505G > > 200Mhz Pentium > > 32MB > > 2GB > > Phoenix 4.0 R 6.0 > > OK > > 2.2.6 > > PAO-980430 > > OK > > R0106R5 > > > > Intel 82365 > > DEC RoamAbout 915Mhz (wlp0) > > > > > > > > 3com 3C589D-COMBO (ep0) > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- Unit uses the NeoMagic chipset, which is not supported by XFree86. > >- Hibernation does not shut off the LCD. > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Aug 21 06:49:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06163 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 06:49:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pangeia.com.br (spliff.pangeia.com.br [200.239.53.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05668 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 06:43:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nelson@pangeia.com.br) Received: from localhost (nelson@localhost) by pangeia.com.br (8.6.12/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA11304; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:42:05 -0300 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:42:04 -0300 (EST) From: Nelson Murilo To: ams@jonny.eng.br cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [ams] Re: Subject: [Laptop Survey] Sony Vaio PCG-505G In-Reply-To: <35DC9D0C.DEF86BA6@eloan.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 Aug 1998, Brennan Hildebrand wrote: }Redhat does have an XServer for the neomagic chipset for }linux. I don't know if linux compat will work with FreeBSD, though. O do libretto e esse neomagic, coversando com o japa descobri que o pao nao tem suporte pro floppy externo, to achando que vai rolar mais um linux na area } } }-brennan } }Tony Li wrote: } }> }> }> }> Tony Li }> tli@juniper.net }> Sony Vaio PCG-505G }> 200Mhz Pentium }> 32MB }> 2GB }> Phoenix 4.0 R 6.0 }> OK }> 2.2.6 }> PAO-980430 }> OK }> R0106R5 }> }> Intel 82365 }> DEC RoamAbout 915Mhz (wlp0) }> }> }> }> 3com 3C589D-COMBO (ep0) }> }> }> }> }> }> }> - Unit uses the NeoMagic chipset, which is not supported by XFree86. }> - Hibernation does not shut off the LCD. }> }> }> }> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org }> with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message }> } } }To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org }with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message } }=============================================================================== }Este mail so pode ser lido em sistemas operacionais da Microsoft mediante }o pagamento de US $49.95/msg a Open-AMS Foundation. 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As am I, however, I was trying to avoid giving them a plug. With good reason -- I sent them repeated emails asking questions about their support for the Fujitsu 635Tx and never got back a useful response. Now that I can run XFree86 in 800x600x16, there's no reason for me to contact them. I guess my business just isn't that important to them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Aug 21 17:15:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20144 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 17:15:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp-d3.dialup.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20133 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 17:15:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10949; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 17:12:47 GMT (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199808211712.RAA10949@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Bill Trost cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Subject: [Laptop Survey] Sony Vaio PCG-505G In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:27:58 MST." <6458.903716878@cloud.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 17:12:46 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Tony Li writes: > | I am using commercial laptop X server from XiG (www.xig.com) > | which supports NeoMagic just fine FWIW. > > As am I, however, I was trying to avoid giving them a plug. > > With good reason -- I sent them repeated emails asking questions > about their support for the Fujitsu 635Tx and never got back a useful > response. Now that I can run XFree86 in 800x600x16, there's no reason > for me to contact them. I guess my business just isn't that important > to them. It is generally possible to get reasonable answers out of them, but their dedication to actually supporting even medium-sized customers is notably absent. We (my previous employer) were buying AX at about one copy a month, and also bundling LX with laptops that we were selling to customes for portable data analysis. We had major problems with both their Cirrus 754x support (for the laptops) and palette rubbish (on the Matrox Millenium). In both cases, they didn't give any impression of being interested in actually exerting any effort to fix the problem. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Aug 22 20:20:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13336 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 20:20:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jane.lfn.org (www.neworleansonline.com [209.16.92.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA13254 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 20:20:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from caj@lfn.org) Received: (qmail 24593 invoked by uid 100); 23 Aug 1998 03:19:38 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:19:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Craig Johnston To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IBM Thinkpad 560E TFT -> $1200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I figured some of you might be interested in this. The specs are i166MMX / 16MB(80 max) / 2.1GB / 12.1 TFT @ 800x600x16 / 4 lbs, 1.2" thick, basically full-sized keyboard, trackpoint (the red 'pencil eraser') pointing device, SBPro compat sound, external floppy drive, IrDA port. The video is Trident Cyber9382, i.e. supported by XFree86. I wish I'd known microwarehouse (www.microwarehouse.com) had 'em this cheap when I bought mine 3 weeks ago -- I paid about $700 more and I felt like it was a great buy until I saw this. :/ This isn't FreeBSD-specific but I wanted FreeBSD folks to get 'em. It's really an incredible deal. (IBM just discontinued it recently.) You probably couldn't buy just the screen much cheaper. It works great for FreeBSD. Enjoy, Craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Aug 22 21:26:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23724 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 21:26:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lariat.lariat.org (lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23651; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 21:26:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.8/8.8.6) id WAA28279; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:25:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199808230425.WAA28279@lariat.lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@mail.lariat.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1.0.49 (Beta) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:25:00 -0600 To: Craig Johnston , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: IBM Thinkpad 560E TFT -> $1200 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Be careful with the Cyber chips. If you have them in screen expansion mode (an IBM BIOS option) the XFree86 screen driver will go bonkers and your screen will just go black. --Brett At 10:19 PM 8/22/98 -0500, Craig Johnston wrote: > >I figured some of you might be interested in this. The specs are >i166MMX / 16MB(80 max) / 2.1GB / 12.1 TFT @ 800x600x16 / 4 lbs, 1.2" thick, >basically full-sized keyboard, trackpoint (the red 'pencil eraser') pointing >device, SBPro compat sound, external floppy drive, IrDA port. > >The video is Trident Cyber9382, i.e. supported by XFree86. > >I wish I'd known microwarehouse (www.microwarehouse.com) had 'em this >cheap when I bought mine 3 weeks ago -- I paid about $700 more and I >felt like it was a great buy until I saw this. :/ > >This isn't FreeBSD-specific but I wanted FreeBSD folks to get 'em. >It's really an incredible deal. (IBM just discontinued it recently.) >You probably couldn't buy just the screen much cheaper. It works >great for FreeBSD. > >Enjoy, >Craig > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Aug 22 21:27:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24000 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 21:27:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lariat.lariat.org (lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23963; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 21:27:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.8/8.8.6) id WAA28288; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:26:38 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199808230426.WAA28288@lariat.lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@mail.lariat.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1.0.49 (Beta) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:26:16 -0600 To: Craig Johnston , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: IBM Thinkpad 560E TFT -> $1200 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oh, one other thing about the ThinkPad worth noting: the internal modem and sound are done by an MWave chip. There are NO FreeBSD drivers for this, so neither the synth nor the modem will work. You'll need to get PCMCIA cards for these functions. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message