From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jan 1 4:46:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB3237B41E for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 04:46:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-238.wobline.de [212.68.69.249]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id g01Ckb805592 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:46:38 +0100 Received: from tisys.org (howie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.3]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g01CkwX01947 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:46:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: (from nils@localhost) by tisys.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g01Ckhq00173 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:46:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:46:08 +0100 From: Nils Holland To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: More on my fxtv / bktr problem Message-ID: <20020101134607.A151@tisys.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD howie.ncptiddische.net 4.5-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE X-Machine-Uptime: 1:35PM up 23 secs, 1 user, load averages: 0.24, 0.06, 0.02 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I already posted a few days ago because of a problem I had to get my Hauppauge WinTV PCI-FM card to work with the bktr drive and fxtv. Well, by now I have successfully make it work acceptable, but one thing that confuses me remains: Well, I have hooked up my satellite receiver via an antenna cable (modulated UHF output) to my WinTV card. The sat receiver claims to send a PAL/BG signal, which is reasonable, since I live in Germany. Accordingly, I set up fxtv to "PAL/BDGHI" mode. Now, interestingly though, the vido signal using this mode looks a little strange: If fxtv is a small window, the video moves not very smoothly, i.e. it hangs sometimes. Pressing fxtv's "full screen" button or using my Hauppauge remote control to switch to full screen provides even more surprises: The picture looks either "interlaced", i.e. only all even scanlines seem to get drawn while the odd lines remain missing *or* the picture is there in full, but once again moves unsmoothly and "ghost" images of previous frames may remain. As a workaround, I set fxtv to "PAL/N" mode, and interestingly, all the above described problems go away. TV looks good both in small window and full screen format. Now, does anyone have a clue what this could mean? First of all, I am sure that my satellite receiver is hooked up correctly and the frequency is set accordingly (using channelset "weurope"). Then, I really wonder in what way the selection of PAL/BDGHI vs. PAL/N could influence how "smooth" my picture moves. I thought this had to do more with the way the WinTV board transfers the video data into my graphic card's memory and less with the TV standard I have selected. I even had a look at the PAL specs and noted that PAL/BDGHI and PAL/N are basically the same in terms of lines used and refresh frequency - the two modes only seem to differ a bit by means of subcarriers used for the image and sound data. Thus, I find it even stranger that PAL/N looks so good on my machine in conjunction with a PAL/BG signal. So, has anyone seen something similar before? Or can anybody guess (by knowing the source code of the bktr driver of fxtv) what's going on here? Although my "PAL/N" fix basically makes my card work the way I want it to, I'm still corious to find out why things are the way they are. Greetings Nils (Oh - if you reply, please CC me, as I am not currently subscribed to the multimedia list (mailbox gets full enough from all the other FreeBSD lists ;-) )) -- Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jan 1 7:47: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.nc.rr.com (fe4.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC6337B41D for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 07:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by mail4.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Tue, 1 Jan 2002 09:43:39 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g01EhuI19985; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 09:43:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 09:43:56 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Mike Grommet Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FXTV + SBLive recording problems Message-ID: <20020101094356.A19839@nc.rr.com> References: <005001c18fcf$9e61db20$0100000a@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from julian@elischer.org on Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 10:39:59AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Julian Elischer: |Mike Grommet: |> I'm running (software): |> 4.4 release FreeBSD |> FXTV 1.3 (from ports) |> |> With (hardware): |> SB Live ... |> ioctl(SNDCTL_DSP_SETFRAGMENT), 22544394, 22544394) failed: Invalid argument | |there were some bugs in 4.4 sound code |try get /sys/dev/sound upgraded. Mike, I hope the the driver upgrade fixes this as it sure looks like a sound driver bug. You're the first I recall ever reporting that error. Essentially fxtv is requesting that the sound driver set the number of DMA fragments to 344 each with a size of 10 bytes. That's the initial default (not an auto-adjusted size that comes later), so "everyone" firing up fxtv is pushing this ioctl with the same parms down to their sound driver. Say, you don't happen to work at AMD in Austin do you? Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jan 1 7:49: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.nc.rr.com (fe4.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B66437B41D for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 07:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by mail4.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Tue, 1 Jan 2002 10:49:05 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g01FnMZ20976; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 10:49:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 10:49:22 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Nils Holland Cc: Roger Hardiman , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bktr / fxtv problem revisited... Message-ID: <20020101104922.C19839@nc.rr.com> References: <20020101134607.A151@tisys.org> <20011230170550.A33828@tisys.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011230170550.A33828@tisys.org>; from nils@tisys.org on Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 05:05:50PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nils Holland: |http://www.tisys.org/misc/fxtv_small.png |http://www.tisys.org/misc/fxtv_big.png | |1) I have now found out that when I start my X server with 16bpp instead |of 24bpp, I can switch fxtv to full screen more or less successful. The |only problem that sometimes remains is that the picture may look |"interlaced", that is, only every even scan line seems to be drawn, while |every odd scan line remains black. ... Now, is fxtv / bktr actually |limited to 16bpp, or is this just something I am seeing? It's not limited to 16bpp. Folks have used it in 8/16/24/32 bpp. |2) When I select the PAL/BDGHI mode, the picture seems a little "jerky", |meaning that it hangs and then moves again. If I select PAL/N instead, the |picture moves smoothly. I wonder what the TV norm actually has to do with |this behavior, however. Since I live in Germany, I know that I will have to |use some kind of PAL, but I'm unsure about the differences of PAL/BDGHI and |PAL/N. ... |Well, I have hooked up my satellite receiver via an antenna cable |... PAL/BG signal ... As a workaround, I set fxtv to "PAL/N" mode, and |interestingly, all the above described problems go away. TV looks good |both in small window and full screen format. ... |Then, I really wonder in what way the selection of PAL/BDGHI vs. PAL/N |could influence how "smooth" my picture moves. I don't know enough about PAL to explain why you'd want PAL/N or PAL/BDGH (maybe Roger can offer some advice? he's our resident bktr expert), but I the results you see are indicative of "capture problems". In the bktr chip, there's a little DMA RISC program running, churning out pixels and blasting them onto the memory bus. When "something happens" (e.g. insufficient bus bandwidth, bad input signal, etc.) that prevents it from keeping up at full speed, it can stop and wait for the beginning of the next scan line. One of the microcode instructions tells the chip where to resume executing the program when that happens. If you look at your second picture, that may help to explain why most of the blank spans are on the right of the screen. Similar processing can happen with entire fields. That is if "something happens" where the chip fails to deliver sufficient number of lines to constitute a field, it can pause, skip to the end of the field, and resume. This helps explain many blank lines in windows (in large windows, they'll be alternating lines since you are displaying both fields, not just one). You only see all this trash because you're using DGA which is dumping it directly on your screen. If you disable it (fxtv -disableDirectV), when your tuner is misconfigured for your video stream, the driver will rarely get a successful frame, and fxtv will only display those the driver says were successfully captured. That doesn't mean what frames get through will be flawless, but only that the more mutilated ones won't make it through. Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jan 1 7:49:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.nc.rr.com (fe4.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B7F37B405 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 07:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by mail4.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Tue, 1 Jan 2002 09:55:25 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g01Etn220146; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 09:55:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 09:55:49 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Erich Zigler Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No picture with FXTV and NViDIA Message-ID: <20020101095548.B19839@nc.rr.com> References: <20011229040812.353F037B446@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011229040812.353F037B446@hub.freebsd.org>; from erichz@superhero.org on Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 10:08:34PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Erich Zigler: |Im having some trouble with FXTV and my Nvidia RIVA TNT2 video card. When I |start FXTV I get audio but no picture with FXTV. The picture is completely |black. With my S3 ViRGE card I get visual, and audio. | |I was wondering if anyone else has had these problems before and what they |did to fix them. Ok, well on the TNT2, I'll bet you can get a picture using 'fxtv -disableDirectV'. What XFree86 version are you running? And are you running NVidia drivers with that? Chances are DGA isn't quite happy with your X/driver setup on a TNT2. The above command disables DGA mode and uses XImages mode. Check your "startx -- -probeonly output and see what it says about DGA. What do you have in your XF86Config related to DGA? Also, try "fxtv -debug startup". FWIW, Matt Reimer reportedly had fxtv working fine on a TNT2 with XFree86 4.0.2 earlier this (err...) last year. Years ago, Amacio had DGA working fine on a TNT2 with 3.9.16 using: Section "Device" Identifier "tnt2" Driver "nv" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Option "PCI Retry" EndSection Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jan 1 8:55:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pendragon.tacni.net (radius.tacni.net [64.247.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 963E637B41B for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 08:55:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 82674 invoked by alias); 1 Jan 2002 16:55:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO there) (216.201.213.69) by tacni.net with SMTP; 1 Jan 2002 16:55:37 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Erich Zigler To: Randall Hopper Subject: Re: No picture with FXTV and NViDIA Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 10:55:25 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20011229040812.353F037B446@hub.freebsd.org> <20020101095548.B19839@nc.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <20020101095548.B19839@nc.rr.com> Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020101165542.963E637B41B@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday 01 January 2002 08:55 am, you wrote: > Ok, well on the TNT2, I'll bet you can get a picture using > 'fxtv -disableDirectV'. What XFree86 version are you running? And are > you running NVidia drivers with that? Yep, it works with -disableDirectV. Im running XFree86 4.1.0, and Im using the nv driver that ships with 4.1.0. > Chances are DGA isn't quite happy with your X/driver setup on a TNT2. > The above command disables DGA mode and uses XImages mode. Check your > "startx -- -probeonly output and see what it says about DGA. What do you > have in your XF86Config related to DGA? Also, try "fxtv -debug startup". I don't have anything in my XF86Config related to dga. > FWIW, Matt Reimer reportedly had fxtv working fine on a TNT2 with XFree86 > 4.0.2 earlier this (err...) last year. Years ago, Amacio had DGA working > fine on a TNT2 with 3.9.16 using: Thanks for all your help! -- In real life, can you imagine a civilization worshiping a God that created the very world that plauges them? -- Ajax To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jan 1 13: 4:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6386F37B421 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:04:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-335.wobline.de [212.68.71.56]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id g01L4N807101; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 22:04:23 +0100 Received: from tisys.org (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g01L4iX03224; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 22:04:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: (from nils@localhost) by tisys.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g01L4RZ02668; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 22:04:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 22:04:27 +0100 From: Nils Holland To: Randall Hopper Cc: Roger Hardiman , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bktr / fxtv problem revisited... Message-ID: <20020101220427.A2629@tisys.org> References: <20020101134607.A151@tisys.org> <20011230170550.A33828@tisys.org> <20020101104922.C19839@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020101104922.C19839@nc.rr.com>; from aa8vb@nc.rr.com on Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:49:22AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD jodie.ncptiddische.net 4.5-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE X-Machine-Uptime: 9:52PM up 8:22, 1 user, load averages: 0.26, 0.17, 0.12 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:49:22AM -0500, Randall Hopper stood up and spoke: > > I don't know enough about PAL to explain why you'd want PAL/N or PAL/BDGH > (maybe Roger can offer some advice? he's our resident bktr expert), but I > the results you see are indicative of "capture problems". In the bktr > chip, there's a little DMA RISC program running, churning out pixels and > blasting them onto the memory bus. When "something happens" > (e.g. insufficient bus bandwidth, bad input signal, etc.) that prevents it > from keeping up at full speed, it can stop and wait for the beginning of > the next scan line. One of the microcode instructions tells the chip where > to resume executing the program when that happens. If you look at your > second picture, that may help to explain why most of the blank spans are on > the right of the screen. Similar processing can happen with entire fields. > That is if "something happens" where the chip fails to deliver sufficient > number of lines to constitute a field, it can pause, skip to the end of the > field, and resume. This helps explain many blank lines in windows (in > large windows, they'll be alternating lines since you are displaying both > fields, not just one). I'm no expert on this, but I guess that *might* have to do with my VIA KT-133A / 686B chipset combo. If you are informed about the issue, then you may know that this chipset (especially the 686B Southbridge) has a bug in that it tends to produce data loss when copying large files from a drive on IDE channel one to a dive on IDE channel two. A discussion about that just went on at freebsd-hackers. Now, anyway, this big appears mostly when there's heavy load on the PCI bus, which the WinTV card can surely produce. Many mainboard manufacturer's (including mine) have placed a workaround in their BIOS, which basically (I'm not expert if I use the wrong terms) does not grant a DMA Busmater three "bursts" before the CPU accesses the bus again, but instead makes the CPU access the bus after each individual burst. I guess that this may actually have some undesirably side effects on the WinTV card which is trying to move its data into my graphic card's memory, since it gets interrupted three times as often as is common on "unflawed" mainboards. Now, if this assumption is true, there may actually be no fix for the issue I have been seeing with my WinTV card available. I guess I might want (only for a short test run) flash a BIOS that does not (yet) contain the above mentioned bug fix and thus grants the PCI bus to any bus master for a longer period of time. I will then re-flach my current BIOS to prevent the (much more dangerous) possibility of data corruption on my HD, but at least this little experiment would allow me to find out if my assumption of the cause of this problem is true. > You only see all this trash because you're using DGA which is dumping it > directly on your screen. If you disable it (fxtv -disableDirectV), when > your tuner is misconfigured for your video stream, the driver will rarely > get a successful frame, and fxtv will only display those the driver says > were successfully captured. That doesn't mean what frames get through will > be flawless, but only that the more mutilated ones won't make it through. If I turn of DGA, I get about one frame all 2 seconds, even in a small window. I wonder if I should normally get slightly more than that, even with DGA disabled... Greetings Nils -- Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jan 1 15:40:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03-gb.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.15.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6189737B427 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 15:40:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p252.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.252]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA71376 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 00:40:48 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g01JRnN00553 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 20:27:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 20:27:49 +0100 (CET) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: streaming without m3u file with audio/mpeg In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > audio/mpeg;/usr/local/bin/xaudio;stream-buffer-size=20000 didnt work. Works nicely now, dont know what had happened. Had a littled bit more, maybe this had confused: xterm -iconic -e. You have to kill it now to stop playing, not so much a problem with video.... H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jan 1 20:31:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from web14310.mail.yahoo.com (web14310.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98A4537B421 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 20:31:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020102043146.85967.qmail@web14310.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.94.135.34] by web14310.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Jan 2002 04:31:46 GMT Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 04:31:46 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?shanon=20loveridge?= Subject: OpenGL To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I was wondering what the support for OpenGL was like for FreeBSD and whether it is hard ware accelerated under X. My system: FreeBSD 4.4 Current Xfree 4.0X Geforce 256 DDR Thanks Shanon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jan 2 4: 8: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from breg.mc.mpls.visi.com (breg.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5277537B405 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 04:08:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from sheol.localdomain (hawkeyd-fw.dsl.visi.com [208.42.101.193]) by breg.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E342D0404; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 06:08:03 -0600 (CST) Received: (from hawkeyd@localhost) by sheol.localdomain (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g02C81w02386; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 06:08:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hawkeyd) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 06:08:01 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200201021208.g02C81w02386@sheol.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.8a Reply-To: hawkeyd@visi.com Organization: if (!FIFO) if (!LIFO) break; References: In-Reply-To: From: hawkeyd@visi.com (D J Hawkey Jr) Subject: Re: Help with intel i810 mobo sound config in FreeBSD 4.4 X-Original-Newsgroups: sol.lists.freebsd.multimedia To: gunawabs@purdue.edu, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 4.4REL's CVS has the source modules for i810/ICH sound support. What leads you to believe you need that patch? Dave -- Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming, or what?" In article , gunawabs@purdue.edu writes: > Hello, > Happy new year 2002 =) > > I'm a newbie here. I have FreeBSD 4.4 in my box that has intel i810 mobo. > I got X to work fine. But I still have problem configuring the sound. > I've done some searching on the net, and I found this website mentioned a > couple times in this list archive and in other people's sites. > > http://www.katsurajima.seya.yokohama.jp/ich/ > > So I followed the instruction in the page. Downloaded the ich.c.gz for > FreeBSD 4-stable, 5-Current one, copied it to the src tree, added the > necessary line, config my kernel, make depend, and I got a bunch of errors > in the "make" process. > In my "make depend", I've noticed these lines (if these mean something??): > > ===> sound/driver/ich rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ > -I@/../include > /usr/src/sys/modules/sound/driver/ich/../../../../dev/sound/pci/ich.c > > But the make depend didn't give any error though. When I typed "make", > errors occur in the ich.c file. It said a lot about snd_dbuf, it looks > like it couldn't find the snd_dbuf variable or something. > > Does anybody know what I might do wrong? Thanks in advance. > > -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jan 2 5: 2:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C34F37B420 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 05:02:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-189.wobline.de [212.68.69.200]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id g02D2I721208; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 14:02:18 +0100 Received: from tisys.org (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g02D2hX06267; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 14:02:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: (from nils@localhost) by tisys.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g02D2IN00399; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 14:02:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 14:01:43 +0100 From: Nils Holland To: Randall Hopper Cc: Roger Hardiman , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bktr / fxtv problem revisited... Message-ID: <20020102140143.A370@tisys.org> References: <20020101134607.A151@tisys.org> <20011230170550.A33828@tisys.org> <20020101104922.C19839@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020101104922.C19839@nc.rr.com>; from aa8vb@nc.rr.com on Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:49:22AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD jodie.ncptiddische.net 4.5-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE X-Machine-Uptime: 1:53PM up 21 mins, 1 user, load averages: 0.01, 0.03, 0.01 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I have (once again) done some more research on my bktr problem, and I'd like to share what I have found out. Again, any hints to make sense of what I am seeing are welcome! 1) I have now made a screenshot of this "interlaced" screen I see when using the PAL/BDGHI norm, which is basically the norm I should be using. The screenshot is at http://www.tisys.org/misc/fxtv_interlace.png. As you will notice, it seems as if every odd line is missing. Strangely, I only need to switch from PAL/BDGHI to PAL/N and everything looks normal. 2) One more strange thing: During my testing, I tried xawtv in order to display my TV picture. Now, in xawtv I can select between two capture modes: Overlay and screen grab. Overlay is the mode where the TV stream gets DMA'ed over to the graphics card, while in screen grab mode, I noticed something weird: When using screen grab in connection with PAL/BDGHI mode, I can see a "SIGALRM" message in the xterm from which I started xawtv about every second, followed by a screen refresh in the xawtv window. So, it seems that xawtv is using a timer to grab the screen at regular intervals. However, if I use PAL/N and screen grab, the SIGALRM timer no longer seems to be there, and I do no longer get a screen that updates once a second, but a smoothly moving stream (strange, is screen grab + PAL/N should behave the same as screen grab + PAL/BDGHI, I think). Well, mostly with this PAL/N workaround my WinTV card works as expected, though I find it strange that this workaround is needed. Therefore, I only wanted to post this last message along with my screenshot, in order to let everyone know what I have found out recently ;-) Greetings Nils (Again, plese CC replies to me! Thanks in advance!) -- Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jan 2 17:15: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B8E37B41D for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:15:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.11.3/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g031FUt55915; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:15:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:15:30 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: =?iso-8859-1?q?shanon=20loveridge?= Cc: Subject: Re: OpenGL In-Reply-To: <20020102043146.85967.qmail@web14310.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: X-All-Your-Base: are belong to us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, [iso-8859-1] shanon loveridge wrote: > I was wondering what the support for OpenGL was like > for FreeBSD and whether it is hard ware accelerated > under X. With some hackery, it is supported. Check out: http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~eanholt/dri/index.html > Xfree 4.0X You'll have to base from 4.1, hope that's okay. I'm using DRI fine on 4.2-R with a Matrox G200. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jan 2 17:50:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (18.gibs5.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.184.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10A337B41D for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (jimslaptop.int [192.168.5.9]) by w2xo.pgh.pa.us (8.11.6/8.11.3) with SMTP id g031oHE24254 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:50:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from durham@jcdurham.com) Message-Id: <200201030150.g031oHE24254@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jim Durham Reply-To: durham@jcdurham.com To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: KDE Sound problems Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:50:20 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've noticed a couple of problems with sound on KDE on FreeBSD and I was wondering if anyone else was having these problems so that I could file a bug report with more evidence. I have a sound recording program I wrote several years ago to record from the soundcard to a raw binary file. This works fine with my old Soundblaster16 on 4.4-Stable. On my laptop, with an ESS-Maestro3, I seem to be missing samples. The recorded file is higher in pitch than the original recording, contains "clicks" and records longer than the requested time; IE, if you ask for a 10 second duration, you get 14 or 15 seconds duration. Since the program counts duration by calculating how many samples it needs to get from the sound card at the requested scan rate, it sounds like it is not able to read the samples at the requested rate, therefore it takes longer and compresses the recording, time-wise, making the pitch higher. I tried this same thing with 'gramofile' from ports and it does the same . I also have an issue with the Multimedia player, Noatun... Noatun seems to run OK playing mp3 files, but does not always show the running time. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't! Sometimes a particular instance of Noatun starts out working properly and then, after playing a few mp3s, the clock goes to 00:00:00 and does not count. -Jim Durham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jan 2 18:19:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from kumr.lns.com (kumr.lns.com [63.198.122.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF26037B419 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:19:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pozar@localhost) by kumr.lns.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) id g032JAA13407; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:19:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pozar) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:19:10 -0800 From: Tim Pozar To: Jim Durham Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: KDE Sound problems Message-ID: <20020102181909.B7800@lns.com> References: <200201030150.g031oHE24254@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201030150.g031oHE24254@w2xo.pgh.pa.us>; from durham@jcdurham.com on Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 08:50:20PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 08:50:20PM -0500, Jim Durham wrote: > I've noticed a couple of problems with sound on KDE on FreeBSD and I was > wondering if anyone else was having these problems so that I could file a > bug report with more evidence. > > I have a sound recording program I wrote several years ago to record from > the soundcard to a raw binary file. This works fine with my old > Soundblaster16 on 4.4-Stable. On my laptop, with an ESS-Maestro3, > I seem to be missing samples. The recorded file is higher in pitch than > the original recording, contains "clicks" and records longer than the > requested time; IE, if you ask for a 10 second duration, you get 14 or 15 > seconds duration. Since the program counts duration by calculating how > many samples it needs to get from the sound card at the requested scan > rate, it sounds like it is not able to read the samples at the requested > rate, therefore it takes longer and compresses the recording, time-wise, > making the pitch higher. I tried this same thing with 'gramofile' from > ports and it does the same . I wrote a simple C program that does something like what you describe in it opens /dev/dsp*, sets sample rate, etc and then starts to spit this out as PCM data via STDOUT. It works under KDE's artsd. You can check it out at: http://www.lns.com/papers/catdsp/ Tim -- Snail: Tim Pozar / LNS / 1978 45th Ave / San Francisco CA 94116 / USA POTS: +1 415 665 3790 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 "It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." - Andrew Jackson "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite." - Bertrand Russell, "Skeptical_Essays" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jan 3 12:34:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.nc.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3835D37B405 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:34:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by mail5.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:34:16 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g03KTIC01698; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:29:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:29:18 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Doug White Cc: shanon loveridge , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Message-ID: <20020103152917.A1658@nc.rr.com> References: <20020102043146.85967.qmail@web14310.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu on Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 05:15:30PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug White: |> I was wondering what the support for OpenGL was like |> for FreeBSD and whether it is hard ware accelerated |> under X. | |With some hackery, it is supported. | |Check out: | |http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~eanholt/dri/index.html | |> Xfree 4.0X | |You'll have to base from 4.1, hope that's okay. I'm using DRI fine on |4.2-R with a Matrox G200. It's also important to verify that agpgart supports your motherboard's northbridge chipset. Case in point: I upgraded my system last summer and have a Matrox G450 AGP but have never gotten H/W acceleration going here because no one had added support for my AMD761 northbridge to the agpgart drivers. ...Re-researching just now, I see somebody added it to -current a few weeks ago (hurray!), but I run -stable and I don't know if this has been MFCed yet. Maybe my wait is over!? At any rate, I recommend you check first. Good luck! Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jan 3 13: 1: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter2.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A54037B419 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:00:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g03L0r113548; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:00:53 -0600 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:00:53 -0600 (CST) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Randall Hopper Cc: Doug White , shanon loveridge , Subject: Re: OpenGL In-Reply-To: <20020103152917.A1658@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org adding support to apgart for your chipset's registers is the secret trick to making dri work? whoa! awesome! where did you just do your research? i'll have to look at that and figure out how to get my cheesy SiS630 supported... On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Randall Hopper wrote: > Doug White: > |> I was wondering what the support for OpenGL was like > |> for FreeBSD and whether it is hard ware accelerated > |> under X. > | > |With some hackery, it is supported. > | > |Check out: > | > |http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~eanholt/dri/index.html > | > |> Xfree 4.0X > | > |You'll have to base from 4.1, hope that's okay. I'm using DRI fine on > |4.2-R with a Matrox G200. > > It's also important to verify that agpgart supports your motherboard's > northbridge chipset. > > Case in point: I upgraded my system last summer and have a Matrox G450 AGP > but have never gotten H/W acceleration going here because no one had added > support for my AMD761 northbridge to the agpgart drivers. > ...Re-researching just now, I see somebody added it to -current a few weeks > ago (hurray!), but I run -stable and I don't know if this has been MFCed > yet. Maybe my wait is over!? At any rate, I recommend you check first. > > Good luck! > > Randall > > -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jan 3 13:23:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fepD.post.tele.dk (fepD.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D0837B416 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:23:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([62.243.18.247]) by fepD.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there>; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:23:24 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen To: Doug White , shanon loveridge Subject: Re: OpenGL Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:24:24 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday 03 January 2002 02:15, Doug White wrote: > You'll have to base from 4.1, hope that's okay. I'm using DRI fine on > 4.2-R with a Matrox G200. May I ask what kind of performance you're pulling out of this setup, eg. FPS in tuxracer and/or gltron? What CPU? Bjarne -- Homepage: http://www.mekanix.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jan 3 13:24:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from asmodean.nks.net (asmodean.nks.net [216.139.201.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8C637B41C for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (joeo@localhost) by asmodean.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02977; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:24:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:24:44 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: To: Randall Hopper Cc: Subject: Re: OpenGL In-Reply-To: <20020103152917.A1658@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For a patch for the AMD 7xx northbridge chipset for 4.4-RELEASE check pr32301 in the open bug reports. On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Randall Hopper wrote: > Doug White: > |> I was wondering what the support for OpenGL was like > |> for FreeBSD and whether it is hard ware accelerated > |> under X. > | > |With some hackery, it is supported. > | > |Check out: > | > |http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~eanholt/dri/index.html > | > |> Xfree 4.0X > | > |You'll have to base from 4.1, hope that's okay. I'm using DRI fine on > |4.2-R with a Matrox G200. > > It's also important to verify that agpgart supports your motherboard's > northbridge chipset. > > Case in point: I upgraded my system last summer and have a Matrox G450 AGP > but have never gotten H/W acceleration going here because no one had added > support for my AMD761 northbridge to the agpgart drivers. > ...Re-researching just now, I see somebody added it to -current a few weeks > ago (hurray!), but I run -stable and I don't know if this has been MFCed > yet. Maybe my wait is over!? At any rate, I recommend you check first. > > Good luck! > > Randall > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jan 3 14:41:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from Mail6.nc.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F89C37B416 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:41:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by Mail6.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:41:19 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g03MfZ100856; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:41:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:41:35 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: John Utz Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Message-ID: <20020103174135.A643@nc.rr.com> References: <20020103152917.A1658@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from john@utzweb.net on Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 03:00:53PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Utz: |On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Randall Hopper wrote: | |> Doug White: |> |You'll have to base from 4.1, hope that's okay. I'm using DRI fine on |> |4.2-R with a Matrox G200. |> |> It's also important to verify that agpgart supports your motherboard's |> northbridge chipset. | |adding support to apgart for your chipset's registers is the secret trick |to making dri work? | |whoa! awesome! Well, I don't know about it being the secret trick, but it's one key part besides the graphics card. Also relevent is the bus your graphics card is on. I last had a G200 PCI, had DRI going with the Utah stuff I think but not with the stock XFree86 stuff. G200 AGP was supported but not G200 PCI. |where did you just do your research? i'll have to look at that and figure |out how to get my cheesy SiS630 supported... Nothing high-tech. I just greped my mailing list archives for AMD761. Hadn't even gotten to groups.google.com yet when I found it. ;-) Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jan 3 15:10:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from asmodean.nks.net (asmodean.nks.net [216.139.201.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A687D37B417 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:10:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (joeo@localhost) by asmodean.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03426 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:10:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:10:24 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: OpenGL In-Reply-To: <20020103174135.A643@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Most common AGP capable northbridge chipsets are supported by stable and current. What is also needed for direct rendering is the kernel module for the card type. Currently supported for direct rendering with freebsd are; 3Dfx Voodoo 3/4/5 (both PCI and AGP varieties work) ATI AGP radeon (the older generation of cards) ATI AGP r128's (but not the "fury maxx") MGA AGP G200/G400/G450's The PCI versions of the latter cards are not supported since the person who ported the card specific kernel modules didn't have the pci versions of the cards available or the time/interest to make it work. Much of the work on the uoregon.edu site mentioned earlier in this thread has been folded back into the XFree86-CVS head branch for possible inclusion with the 4.2.0 XFree86 release, but it needs some FreeBSD users testing it. On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Randall Hopper wrote: > |adding support to apgart for your chipset's registers is the secret trick > |to making dri work? > | > |whoa! awesome! > > Well, I don't know about it being the secret trick, but it's one key part > besides the graphics card. Also relevent is the bus your graphics card is > on. I last had a G200 PCI, had DRI going with the Utah stuff I think but > not with the stock XFree86 stuff. G200 AGP was supported but not G200 PCI. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jan 3 15:31: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F25C37B41D for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:30:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.11.3/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g03NV3Z09530; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:31:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:31:02 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen Cc: shanon loveridge , Subject: Re: OpenGL In-Reply-To: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> Message-ID: <20020103152948.M2739-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> X-All-Your-Base: are belong to us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote: > On Thursday 03 January 2002 02:15, Doug White wrote: > > > You'll have to base from 4.1, hope that's okay. I'm using DRI fine on > > 4.2-R with a Matrox G200. > > May I ask what kind of performance you're pulling out of this setup, eg. FPS > in tuxracer and/or gltron? What CPU? The canonical test is glxgears, and this is what I get after letting it run a bit: 1866 frames in 5.0 seconds = 373.200 FPS 1914 frames in 5.0 seconds = 382.800 FPS 1912 frames in 5.0 seconds = 382.400 FPS 1895 frames in 5.0 seconds = 379.000 FPS This is a 500MHz PII Dell crappy thing; there are machines in the office here that roast mine. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jan 3 16:52: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from asmodean.nks.net (asmodean.nks.net [216.139.201.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2CE37B416 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (joeo@localhost) by asmodean.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03761; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:51:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:51:30 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: To: Randall Hopper Cc: Subject: Re: OpenGL In-Reply-To: <20020103191937.A705@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There's two different source repositories. There's the DRI-CVS repository at sourceforge, and the bsd-2-0-0-branch is the CVS branch Eric's patches have been incorporated into. There's also the XFree86-CVS head branch (also hosted by sourceforge) which one of the XFree86 commiters has been commit'ing the bsd specific dri part to. If you can get the DRI-CVS stuff to compile and work it'd be good of you to see if the XFree86-CVS head branch also works for your card, since that codebase will be the basis for the 4.2.0 XFree86 release. On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Randall Hopper wrote: > Thanks! Just patched it into my 4.3-stable kernel, and I'll checkout > the XFree86 CVS bsd-2-0-0-branch straightaway (I gather from Eric's DRI > page that that's the safest route to go these days for Matrox folks). > > Hope to see the AMD 761 patches in 4.5-R. > > Randall > > joeo@cracktown.com: > |For a patch for the AMD 7xx northbridge chipset for 4.4-RELEASE check > |pr32301 in the open bug reports. > | > |On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Randall Hopper wrote: > | > |> Doug White: > |> |> I was wondering what the support for OpenGL was like > |> |> for FreeBSD and whether it is hard ware accelerated > |> |> under X. > |> | > |> |With some hackery, it is supported. > |> | > |> |Check out: > |> | > |> |http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~eanholt/dri/index.html > |> | > |> |> Xfree 4.0X > |> | > |> |You'll have to base from 4.1, hope that's okay. I'm using DRI fine on > |> |4.2-R with a Matrox G200. > |> > |> It's also important to verify that agpgart supports your motherboard's > |> northbridge chipset. > |> > |> Case in point: I upgraded my system last summer and have a Matrox G450 AGP > |> but have never gotten H/W acceleration going here because no one had added > |> support for my AMD761 northbridge to the agpgart drivers. > |> ...Re-researching just now, I see somebody added it to -current a few weeks > |> ago (hurray!), but I run -stable and I don't know if this has been MFCed > |> yet. Maybe my wait is over!? At any rate, I recommend you check > first. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jan 3 17:36:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail7.nc.rr.com (fe7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005B637B405 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:36:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by mail7.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:19:21 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g040Jbr00756; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:19:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:19:37 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: joeo@cracktown.com Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Message-ID: <20020103191937.A705@nc.rr.com> References: <20020103152917.A1658@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from joeo@cracktown.com on Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:24:44PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks! Just patched it into my 4.3-stable kernel, and I'll checkout the XFree86 CVS bsd-2-0-0-branch straightaway (I gather from Eric's DRI page that that's the safest route to go these days for Matrox folks). Hope to see the AMD 761 patches in 4.5-R. Randall joeo@cracktown.com: |For a patch for the AMD 7xx northbridge chipset for 4.4-RELEASE check |pr32301 in the open bug reports. | |On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Randall Hopper wrote: | |> Doug White: |> |> I was wondering what the support for OpenGL was like |> |> for FreeBSD and whether it is hard ware accelerated |> |> under X. |> | |> |With some hackery, it is supported. |> | |> |Check out: |> | |> |http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~eanholt/dri/index.html |> | |> |> Xfree 4.0X |> | |> |You'll have to base from 4.1, hope that's okay. I'm using DRI fine on |> |4.2-R with a Matrox G200. |> |> It's also important to verify that agpgart supports your motherboard's |> northbridge chipset. |> |> Case in point: I upgraded my system last summer and have a Matrox G450 AGP |> but have never gotten H/W acceleration going here because no one had added |> support for my AMD761 northbridge to the agpgart drivers. |> ...Re-researching just now, I see somebody added it to -current a few weeks |> ago (hurray!), but I run -stable and I don't know if this has been MFCed |> yet. Maybe my wait is over!? At any rate, I recommend you check first. -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jan 3 17:44:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail7.nc.rr.com (fe7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E0E37B416 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:44:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by mail7.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 3 Jan 2002 20:44:45 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g041j0I02324; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 20:45:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 20:45:00 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: joeo@cracktown.com Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Message-ID: <20020103204500.A2182@nc.rr.com> References: <20020103191937.A705@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from joeo@cracktown.com on Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 07:51:30PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org joeo@cracktown.com: |There's two different source repositories. | |There's the DRI-CVS repository at sourceforge, and the bsd-2-0-0-branch is |the CVS branch Eric's patches have been incorporated into. | |There's also the XFree86-CVS head branch (also hosted by sourceforge) |which one of the XFree86 commiters has been commit'ing the bsd specific |dri part to. If you can get the DRI-CVS stuff to compile and work it'd be |good of you to see if the XFree86-CVS head branch also works for your |card, since that codebase will be the basis for the 4.2.0 XFree86 release. I take it you're implying that the "N" in the "MGA" support column on: http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~eanholt/dri/index.html may have changed since it was last updated (12/4/01). Ok, I'll try that if I have success with DRI-CVS. Initially, I'm following Eric's advice and using DRI-CVS on top of the latest XFree86 CVS, though what differs between these in /boot, /modules, and /usr/X11R6 isn't clear to me just yet... Randall # XFree86 CVS with main branch DRI setenv CVS_RSH ssh setenv CVSROOT :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs2.xfree86.org:/cvs cvs login Password: anoncvs cvs -z3 co xc # bsd-2-0-0-branch DRI setenv CVSROOT :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/dri cvs login Password: cvs -z3 co -rbsd-2-0-0-branch xc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 5:33:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA14D37B417 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 05:33:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-147.wobline.de [212.68.69.155]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id g04DXZg32452; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:33:35 +0100 Received: from tisys.org (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g04DY8X16684; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:34:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: (from nils@localhost) by tisys.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g04DXeF60787; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:33:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:33:05 +0100 From: Nils Holland To: Randall Hopper Cc: Roger Hardiman , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bktr / fxtv problem -fixed!- Message-ID: <20020104143305.A14137@tisys.org> References: <20020101134607.A151@tisys.org> <20011230170550.A33828@tisys.org> <20020101104922.C19839@nc.rr.com> <20020102140143.A370@tisys.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020102140143.A370@tisys.org>; from nils@tisys.org on Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 02:01:43PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD jodie.ncptiddische.net 4.5-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE X-Machine-Uptime: 2:27PM up 4:49, 2 users, load averages: 0.68, 0.24, 0.09 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I'm only posting this message to tell you that I have fixed my fxtv / bktr problem (see eMail messages from last week). Now, what did I do? Well, I basically edited the fxtv X resource file so that fxtv starts up with the proper settings for me (i.e., it starts up in PAL/BDGHI mode, tunes right into channel 45 for my sat receiver, sets audio to "internal", and so on). The strange thing is that everything works fine this way. However, when I started fxtv with the default X resource file, and it initialized itself to NTSC, channel 3, etc, fxtv would not work properly for me even if I manually adjusted all the settings to "sane" values by using fxtv's menues. All in all, this is strange. May be either an error on my side, or some problem with fxtv / bktr. Or a problem with my particular card and fxtv / bktr. Or even a combination of all that. Anyway, as it works now, I'm happy, and I want to thank anyone who replied to me and made useful suggestions! Greetings Nils -- Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 6:25:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B279837B417 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 06:25:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-309.wobline.de [212.68.71.30]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id g04EP9g04750; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:25:10 +0100 Received: from tisys.org (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g04EPiX16960; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:25:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: (from nils@localhost) by tisys.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g04EO4F75212; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:24:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:24:04 +0100 From: Nils Holland To: Randall Hopper Cc: Roger Hardiman , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bktr / fxtv problem -fixed!- Message-ID: <20020104152404.A75193@tisys.org> References: <20020101134607.A151@tisys.org> <20011230170550.A33828@tisys.org> <20020101104922.C19839@nc.rr.com> <20020102140143.A370@tisys.org> <20020104143305.A14137@tisys.org> <20020104084838.A7545@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020104084838.A7545@nc.rr.com>; from aa8vb@nc.rr.com on Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:48:38AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD jodie.ncptiddische.net 4.5-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE X-Machine-Uptime: 3:17PM up 5:38, 1 user, load averages: 0.17, 0.09, 0.30 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:48:38AM -0500, Randall Hopper stood up and spoke: > > What would be interesting to see is if, when you start fxtv with your > PAL/BDGHI X resource setting, if you then switched to NTSC/M manually via > the format menu, and then switched back to PAL/BDGHI, are you in the same > bad state as you were originally? And when you quit and restart fxtv, does > that "clear up" this bad state. Well, this problem is more weird that you and I could ever think. Actually, what I had just done did not fix the problem. Something else did, and I'm in the process of finding out why. Here's the story: When I thought I successfully got fxtv to work, I was also doing a "make clean" in /usr/ports just at the same time. While this make clean operating was running, fxtv worked fine, once the operation completed, I was back at the old problems! So I ran "make clean" in /usr/ports again, and the problem was fixed for another ten minutes! I also noticed that receiving teletext with alevt would also only work while my "make clean" was running. So, for you as the author of fxtv, I can confirm that what I had been seeing is really not a problem with your software (which I like very much, by the way!). Instead, I highly guess that it's a problem with my KT133 / 686B chipset. It's really strange - when the hard disk is working, I can watch TV and teletext, but when the hard disk is idle, I can't! I've reported this problem to FreeBSD's IDE / ATA / 686b bug guru Soren Schmidt. I asked him if he has a clue what the hard disk thing might have to do with my TV watching. In the mean time, my only solution is to run a script that constantly cleans /usr/ports. As long as the script runs, I can watch TV just fine. As I said, this is really weird, and I wonder if anyone's seen that before ;-) Greetings Nils -- Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 7: 4:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.epita.fr (hermes.epita.fr [163.5.255.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5C937B416 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 07:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from kenny (kenny [10.42.14.16]) by hermes.epita.fr id g04F4IR14321 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org EPITA Paris France Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:04:19 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:04:17 +0100 From: luc wastiaux To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Quake3 Message-ID: <20020104160417.A24289@kenny.epita.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am running 4.4-Stable on a celeron 8000 machine with a voodoo 3 3000 AGPvideo card, I have sucessfully set up DRI (although it only works as root). I also installed the linux-dri port from the gnats system. In order to run quake3 I made the following symlink in the quake3 directory: libGL.so -> /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 (note my quake3 directory is not in /compat/linux/usr due to low disk space in /usr) when I run quake3 (as root), I get a blank screen , with the mouse still working, but I am unable to exit X using crtl alt backspace or switch to a virtual console, the only thing I can do is kill X from a remote session. I have no idea how to troubleshoot the problems - what logs should I look at ? thank you in advance -- -luc | wastia_l@epita.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 7:59:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ktk.ru (mail.ktk.ru [195.161.51.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76CA37B41D for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 07:59:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from brj (gts2-12.dial.ktk.ru [195.161.51.171]) by mail.ktk.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g04Fx6x72957 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 22:59:06 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from peps37@ktk.ru) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 22:58:49 +0700 From: "Roman Y. Bogdanov" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Reply-To: "Roman Y. Bogdanov" Organization: http://peps37.ktk.ru/ - õÒÁ íÎÅ! óÌÁ×Á íÎÅ! äÁ ÚÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÀ ñ! X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1776155060.20020104225849@ktk.ru> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Time to upgrade... and some question's. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ... now playing: KLF - Last train to trancentral I decide buy DVD-cdrom. I have lots of question. I have Tecram390F SCSI controller and Plextor PX-40 MAX + Yamaha 8/8/24 writer on it. I don't won't 3 cd drive in my home box. Can u give me some advise that DVD drive good as plextor in reading CD disc? Q: What model be a better choise for FreeBSD? Q: What software i need for wathing DVD disc? Q: What software i can use for encoding DVD to DIVx? Q: At this time i have SB live! 5.1. Does BSD can support 5:1 audio format? And out sound to all speakers? -- Roman Y. Bogdanov Email: peps37#ktk.ru, ICQ 5535950, http://peps37.ktk.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 8:29: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from Mail6.nc.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3ECF37B416 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 08:29:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by Mail6.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 4 Jan 2002 08:48:20 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g04DmcV07666; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 08:48:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 08:48:38 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Nils Holland Cc: Roger Hardiman , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bktr / fxtv problem -fixed!- Message-ID: <20020104084838.A7545@nc.rr.com> References: <20020101134607.A151@tisys.org> <20011230170550.A33828@tisys.org> <20020101104922.C19839@nc.rr.com> <20020102140143.A370@tisys.org> <20020104143305.A14137@tisys.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020104143305.A14137@tisys.org>; from nils@tisys.org on Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 02:33:05PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nils Holland: |I'm only posting this message to tell you that I have fixed my fxtv / bktr |problem (see eMail messages from last week). Congrats! |Now, what did I do? Well, I basically edited the fxtv X resource file so |that fxtv starts up with the proper settings for me (i.e., it starts up in |PAL/BDGHI mode, tunes right into channel 45 for my sat receiver, sets audio |to "internal", and so on). | |The strange thing is that everything works fine this way. However, when I |started fxtv with the default X resource file, and it initialized itself to |NTSC, channel 3, etc, fxtv would not work properly for me even if I |manually adjusted all the settings to "sane" values by using fxtv's menues. | |All in all, this is strange. May be either an error on my side, or some |problem with fxtv / bktr. Or a problem with my particular card and fxtv / |bktr. Or even a combination of all that. Anyway, as it works now, I'm |happy, and I want to thank anyone who replied to me and made useful |suggestions! What would be interesting to see is if, when you start fxtv with your PAL/BDGHI X resource setting, if you then switched to NTSC/M manually via the format menu, and then switched back to PAL/BDGHI, are you in the same bad state as you were originally? And when you quit and restart fxtv, does that "clear up" this bad state. If so, it's very likely there's some wrong state being left around somewhere in fxtv, the bktr driver, or in the tuner. I just checked fxtv and I don't think it's there. It does basically the same thing on startup with the X resource setting for input format as it does for setting the input format from the menu. But anyway, let us know. Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 9:38:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.nc.rr.com (fe4.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137DB37B417 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by mail4.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:38:39 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g04Hd1101316; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:39:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:39:01 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Message-ID: <20020104123901.A1156@nc.rr.com> References: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020103152948.M2739-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020103152948.M2739-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu>; from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu on Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 03:31:02PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug White: |Bjarne Wichmann Petersen: |> May I ask what kind of performance you're pulling out of this setup, |> eg. FPS in tuxracer and/or gltron? What CPU? | |The canonical test is glxgears, and this is what I get after letting it |run a bit: | |1866 frames in 5.0 seconds = 373.200 FPS |1914 frames in 5.0 seconds = 382.800 FPS |1912 frames in 5.0 seconds = 382.400 FPS |1895 frames in 5.0 seconds = 379.000 FPS | |This is a 500MHz PII Dell crappy thing; there are machines in the office |here that roast mine. Here's another data point. Just got XFree86 CVS from yesterday built and installed (and my 4.3-stable kernel tweaked for my MB) such that everything is stable. With glxgears using the XFree86 DRI mga module and AGP 1x: 3120 frames in 5.0 seconds = 624.000 FPS 3120 frames in 5.0 seconds = 624.000 FPS 3121 frames in 5.0 seconds = 624.200 FPS and with AGP 4x: 3197 frames in 5.0 seconds = 639.400 FPS 3197 frames in 5.0 seconds = 639.400 FPS 3196 frames in 5.0 seconds = 639.200 FPS 2.5% - not a lot of difference, but this number may still be low for this box (XFree86 was compiled with the default -g, XFree86 probes my card as a G400 SDRAM--it's a G450 DDRAM, etc.). My hardware: - Matrox Millenium G450 32MB DDR AGP - Asus A7M266 DDR MB - Athlon Thunderbird 1.2GHz Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 10:52: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fepD.post.tele.dk (fepD.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A71737B405 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([62.243.18.126]) by fepD.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020104185158.RCWJ16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there>; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:51:58 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen To: Randall Hopper , Bjarne Wichmann Petersen Subject: Re: OpenGL Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:52:59 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020103152948.M2739-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> <20020104123901.A1156@nc.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <20020104123901.A1156@nc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020104185158.RCWJ16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday 04 January 2002 18:39, Randall Hopper wrote: > 3197 frames in 5.0 seconds = 639.400 FPS > 3197 frames in 5.0 seconds = 639.400 FPS > 3196 frames in 5.0 seconds = 639.200 FPS Ok.. I'm pulling someting like ~667 FPS > 2.5% - not a lot of difference, but this number may still be low for this > box (XFree86 was compiled with the default -g, XFree86 probes my card as a > G400 SDRAM--it's a G450 DDRAM, etc.). Hmm.... where does one turn of -g? Or have I already done that by setting CFLAGS=-O -pipe in /etc/make.conf? > > My hardware: > - Matrox Millenium G450 32MB DDR 1x AGP > - Asus A7M266 DDR MB > - Athlon Thunderbird 1.2GHz Then you don't want to hear my setup: - G400 16 MB RAM AGP - Epox 8KTA3/+ PC133 SDRAM - Duron 800 MHz - 4.4-STABLE, X build out from ports. Why is my poorer setup performing better than yours? Have you tried tuxracer or gltron? In tuxracer I can't push more than 9-11 FPS on average. And the pusling part, it the same whether I run it at 640x480 or 1600x1200. Bjarne To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 11:13:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37F137B419 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:13:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (relay2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.1]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3-2) with ESMTP id g04JDhq26327 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:13:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (hyperion.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.194.33]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3/6) with ESMTP id g04JDhv26323 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:13:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (margaux.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.194.72]) by hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA09547 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:12:27 +0100 (MET) Received: (from stolz@localhost) by margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1-gb-2) id UAA00767 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:13:38 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:13:38 +0100 From: Volker Stolz To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: mplayer & esd Message-ID: <20020104201338.A763@i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I was wondering why mplayer is explicitly built without esd support. I checked the mailing list archives and cvs logs, but couldn't find any hint. -- Wonderful \hbox (0.80312pt too nice) in paragraph at lines 16--18 Volker Stolz * stolz@i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Please use PGP or S/MIME for correspondence! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 11:18:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from Mail6.nc.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6F237B419 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:18:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by Mail6.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:18:23 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g04JIlX39440; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:18:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:18:47 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Message-ID: <20020104141846.A31212@nc.rr.com> References: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020103152948.M2739-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> <20020104123901.A1156@nc.rr.com> <20020104185158.RCWJ16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020104185158.RCWJ16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there>; from nospam.nospam@mekanix.dk on Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 07:52:59PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bjarne Wichmann Petersen: |On Friday 04 January 2002 18:39, Randall Hopper wrote: | |> 3197 frames in 5.0 seconds = 639.400 FPS |> 3197 frames in 5.0 seconds = 639.400 FPS |> 3196 frames in 5.0 seconds = 639.200 FPS | |Ok.. I'm pulling someting like ~667 FPS Very nice! |> 2.5% - not a lot of difference, but this number may still be low for this |> box (XFree86 was compiled with the default -g, XFree86 probes my card as a |> G400 SDRAM--it's a G450 DDRAM, etc.). | |Hmm.... where does one turn of -g? Or have I already done that by setting |CFLAGS=-O -pipe in /etc/make.conf? From the XFree86 port patches, it appears: config/cf/FreeBSD.cf is the place. The current port turns off optimization by removing the -O2 and -O on DefaultGcc2i386Opt and OptimizedCDebugFlags, respectively. |> My hardware: |> - Matrox Millenium G450 32MB DDR 1x AGP |> - Asus A7M266 DDR MB |> - Athlon Thunderbird 1.2GHz | |Then you don't want to hear my setup: Oh, I definitely do! | - G400 16 MB RAM AGP | - Epox 8KTA3/+ PC133 SDRAM | - Duron 800 MHz | - 4.4-STABLE, X build out from ports. | |Why is my poorer setup performing better than yours? Good question! I'll compile with -O2 next. I turned optimization off because that's what the XFree86 port was doing (figured it'd be a safer first step), but that's not the default for the CVS tree apparently. |Have you tried tuxracer or gltron? In tuxracer I can't push more than |9-11 FPS on average. And the pusling part, it the same whether I run it |at 640x480 or 1600x1200. Not yet, but I will. Let me rebuild and dig around some more to see what I can tweak. Say, also I'm running with the XFree86 DRI mga.ko module, not the SourceForge DRI modules, and I didn't compile in the Matrox HAL library. I'd be interested in which DRI modules you are using, and whether you've got the HAL built into your server. Thanks for the reply! Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 11:59:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from brea.mc.mpls.visi.com (brea.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8ADC37B419 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:59:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from sheol.localdomain (hawkeyd-fw.dsl.visi.com [208.42.101.193]) by brea.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92282DDDE5; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:59:24 -0600 (CST) Received: (from hawkeyd@localhost) by sheol.localdomain (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g04JxNr77515; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:59:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hawkeyd) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:59:23 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200201041959.g04JxNr77515@sheol.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.8a Reply-To: hawkeyd@visi.com Organization: if (!FIFO) if (!LIFO) break; References: <20020104201338.A763_i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de@ns.sol.net> In-Reply-To: <20020104201338.A763_i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de@ns.sol.net> From: hawkeyd@visi.com (D J Hawkey Jr) Subject: Re: mplayer & esd X-Original-Newsgroups: sol.lists.freebsd.multimedia To: stolz@hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <20020104201338.A763_i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de@ns.sol.net>, stolz@hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de writes: > Hi, I was wondering why mplayer is explicitly built without > esd support. I checked the mailing list archives and cvs logs, > but couldn't find any hint. You're referring to the FreeBSD port and/or package? I couldn't tell you, except that, from my experience bulding mplayer from their source, the 'configure' script modifies the build and executable to suit the system it is run on. P'raps the port maintainer doesn't have ESD, so the port and/or package therefore doesn't have it? I had little trouble building mplayer from their sources, though I don't have ESD. Dave -- Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming, or what?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 12: 0: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fepC.post.tele.dk (fepC.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72C337B41C for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:59:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([62.243.18.126]) by fepC.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020104195955.KBLQ11568.fepC.post.tele.dk@there>; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:59:55 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen To: Randall Hopper , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:00:56 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020104185158.RCWJ16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020104141846.A31212@nc.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <20020104141846.A31212@nc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020104195955.KBLQ11568.fepC.post.tele.dk@there> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday 04 January 2002 20:18, Randall Hopper wrote: > From the XFree86 port patches, it appears: config/cf/FreeBSD.cf > is the place. The current port turns off optimization by removing the -O2 > and -O on DefaultGcc2i386Opt and OptimizedCDebugFlags, respectively. Hmm... I read somewhere that it generally wasn't advisable to do any optimization above -O... or was that just for kernel/world-build? > |Have you tried tuxracer or gltron? In tuxracer I can't push more than > |9-11 FPS on average. And the pusling part, it the same whether I run it > |at 640x480 or 1600x1200. > > Not yet, but I will. Let me rebuild and dig around some more to see what I > can tweak. Let me hear what you dig out eventually... ;) > Say, also I'm running with the XFree86 DRI mga.ko module, not the > SourceForge DRI modules, and I didn't compile in the Matrox HAL library. > I'd be interested in which DRI modules you are using, and whether you've > got the HAL built into your server. I'm using the drm-kernelmodules from ports. And I've also tried running with the matrox HAL, but recompiled some days ago without to check whether there was any difference. With tuxracer it was the same, haven't tested with glxgear though. Bjarne -- Homepage: http://www.mekanix.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 12: 8:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter2.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE32937B41D for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g04K8AE26543; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:08:10 -0600 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:08:09 -0600 (CST) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen Cc: Randall Hopper , Subject: Re: OpenGL In-Reply-To: <20020104195955.KBLQ11568.fepC.post.tele.dk@there> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote: > On Friday 04 January 2002 20:18, Randall Hopper wrote: > > > From the XFree86 port patches, it appears: config/cf/FreeBSD.cf > > is the place. The current port turns off optimization by removing the -O2 > > and -O on DefaultGcc2i386Opt and OptimizedCDebugFlags, respectively. > > Hmm... I read somewhere that it generally wasn't advisable to do any > optimization above -O... or was that just for kernel/world-build? hmm, advisable is a vague thing.....i go in and hack the makefile to -O2 when i make my kernels or i build apps from src, and i have been doing it since 2.x days with no ill effects. note that i have never built the entire tree, so i couldnt speak about that circumstance. with 4.4-RELEASE, my current focus is now on using -O3. the kernel seemed ok and all apps(more than 20) that i built seemed happy in daily use EXCEPT bash 2.05! wouldnt run! coredumped as soon as you started it! i didnt debug it. i just built it with -O2 and was good to go. YMMV, HTH johnu -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 12:31:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from cs.ucla.edu (Mordred.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.192.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993B837B416 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:31:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scottm@localhost) by cs.ucla.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g04KVTW07376 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:31:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scottm) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:31:29 -0800 From: Scott Michel To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: xmms stutterrrrrrrrring Message-ID: <20020104203129.GC7129@mordred.cs.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a new one I've encoutered (4.5-PRERELEASE): Playing a stream causes xmms 1.2.5 to stutter and take over the machine when the stream dries up due to congestion. It's as if the sound output thread plays the same buffer over and over while waiting for new data from the stream (which is congested, ergo, none will be coming...) Is this fixable via a patch or just an architectural bug in xmms? Can someone point me in the right direction in the xmms code so I can maybe craft a patch? Or might this be a problem in libc_r? -scooter -- Scott Michel | No research ideal ever survives UCLA Computer Science | contact with implementation. PhD Graduate Student | !! Futuaris nisi irrisus ridebis !! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 14: 6:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from Thanatos.Shenton.Org (a3.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFB4D37B41B for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:06:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 99837 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Jan 2002 22:06:55 -0000 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Audio plays 16% fast in xmms, freeamp, realplay (Compaq, FreeBSD-4.4) From: Chris Shenton Date: 04 Jan 2002 17:06:55 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200112180707.fBI77gq74392@freebsd.dk> Message-ID: <871yh56a9s.fsf@thanatos.shenton.org> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At work I was given a Compaq 1.5GHz box, upon which I installed FreeBSD-4.4 with no problems. I can play CDs through its sound card no problem. But when I play local or remote mp3 and remote streems (e.g. the Ogg Vorbis stream from BBC) it plays about 16% too fast. Sounds like chipmonks on speed. Since all three of these programs are playing fast, I'm guessing that the players may be guessing the CPU speed in order to determine the proper play-out rate for the digital stream, but it's just a guess. Any thoughts why this would play so fast? How to fix? Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 15:45:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.nc.rr.com (fe4.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3A637B417 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:45:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by mail4.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:28:48 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g04MT8o62472; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:29:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:29:08 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Message-ID: <20020104172908.A62346@nc.rr.com> References: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020103152948.M2739-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> <20020104123901.A1156@nc.rr.com> <20020104185158.RCWJ16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020104185158.RCWJ16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there>; from nospam.nospam@mekanix.dk on Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 07:52:59PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Bjarne Wichmann Petersen: |Randall Hopper: |> 3197 frames in 5.0 seconds = 639.400 FPS | |Ok.. I'm pulling someting like ~667 FPS Scratch -O2. No real difference I found. Next question: can you mail me your XF86Config? Lots of things in there that can influence our results. Thanks! Re: gltron, I'm getting avg 98 with the 320x240. With 640x480 it's over 90 max, but is very dependent on number of cycle tracks (10-98, w/ avg maybe 40. Cool game, but not a great program as far as generating a useful benchmarking number. See how your "benchclock" numbers compare (see attached). This is from the glclock port. Re: tuxracer -- Cool game! I'd never tried that one before. My FPS is in the 70-80 range most of the time (this is at the default 640x480, full screen, music/sounds on). I see the same for bpp_mode's 0,1,&2, so I suspect it's always running 16bpp as that's my X depth. I fired it up with bpp_mode 0 from a 24bpp root, and got the same results. So there's another puzzle for us to solve: why your tuxracer is so slow. Are you sure you're linked with the HW accelerated libGL and not a software-only Mesa libGL (ldd /usr/local/bin/tuxracer | grep 'libGL\.')? Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="bench.log" glclock-4.5 benchmark test. 1. double buffers 339.50 FPS 625359 TPS at 1842 Triangles 2. single buffer 340.40 FPS 627016 TPS at 1842 Triangles 3. environment mapping double buffers 331.53 FPS 619905 TPS at 1870 Triangles 4. environment mapping single buffer 352.07 FPS 656744 TPS at 1870 Triangles 5. bi-linear environment mapping double buffers 340.10 FPS 635987 TPS at 1870 Triangles 6. bi-linear environment mapping single buffer 348.57 FPS 651882 TPS at 1870 Triangles 7. tri-linear environment mapping double buffers 352.63 FPS 659549 TPS at 1870 Triangles 8. tri-linear environment mapping single buffer 358.64 FPS 670582 TPS at 1870 Triangles 9. tri-linear shading texture double buffers 271.27 FPS 507331 TPS at 1870 Triangles 10. tri-linear shading texture single buffer 265.88 FPS 497233 TPS at 1870 Triangles 11. tri-linear transparency texture double buffers 328.47 FPS 614295 TPS at 1870 Triangles 12. tri-linear transparency texture single buffer 327.14 FPS 611864 TPS at 1870 Triangles 13. tri-linear transparency texture with over sampling double buffers 207.96 FPS 444906 TPS at 2140 Triangles 14. tri-linear transparency texture with over sampling single buffer 208.52 FPS 446190 TPS at 2140 Triangles 15. tri-linear shading texture transparency texture double buffers 199.92 FPS 639280 TPS at 3198 Triangles 16. tri-linear shading texture transparency texture single buffer 200.52 FPS 641199 TPS at 3198 Triangles 17. tri-linear shading texture transparency texture high quality clock double buffers 61.60 FPS 853406 TPS at 13854 Triangles 18. tri-linear shading texture transparency texture high quality clock single buffer 62.06 FPS 858948 TPS at 13854 Triangles --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 18:40:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.nc.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2407637CCC2 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:09:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by mail5.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:38:42 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g050d3N75670; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:39:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:39:02 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Message-ID: <20020104193902.A75152@nc.rr.com> References: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020103152948.M2739-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> <20020104123901.A1156@nc.rr.com> <20020104185158.RCWJ16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020104185158.RCWJ16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there>; from nospam.nospam@mekanix.dk on Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 07:52:59PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bjarne Wichmann Petersen: |Have you tried tuxracer or gltron? In tuxracer I can't push more than |9-11 FPS on average. And the pusling part, it the same whether I run it |at 640x480 or 1600x1200. It switches video modes, so I think that explains the latter. But back to why you get 9-11 and I get 70-80. Here's something to try (found in README.DRI). An easy way to make sure you're really running with DRM: > setenv LIBGL_DEBUG verbose > tuxracer ... libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 1.1.0 mga (screen 0) libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so drmOpenByBusid: busid is PCI:1:5:0 drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 7, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 7 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports PCI:1:5:0 ... > setenv LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT 1 > tuxracer ... libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 1.1.0 mga (screen 0) libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 18:45:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.nc.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BCF37D7CE for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by mail5.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:50:36 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g050p8s05714 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:51:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:51:08 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: pciconf & DRI question Message-ID: <20020104195108.A5596@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In the XFree86 README.DRI (very Linux centric), it says: 9.1 Bus Mastering ... Run lspci (as root) and find the information describing your graphics adapter. ... Use the setpci command to examine bit two of register 4 for your graphics card. This will indicate whether or not bus mastering is enabled. setpci -s 01:00.0 4.w Is this the appropriate translation into FreeBSD?: # pciconf -l | grep drm0 drm0@pci1:5:0: class=0x030000 card=0x0641102b chip=0x0525102b rev=0x82 hdr=0x00 # pciconf -r pci1:5:0 4 0x02900007 0x7 & 0x4 == true. Thanks, Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 4 22:24:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD5437B419; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 22:24:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from toxic.magnesium.net ([12.230.162.202]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020105062454.CAIF288.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@toxic.magnesium.net>; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 06:24:54 +0000 Message-ID: <3C369C68.3F600B47@toxic.magnesium.net> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 22:25:44 -0800 From: Ben Speirs Reply-To: bendspeirs@yahoo.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ogle 0.8.2 port update (beta testers ?) References: <20011224015026.83916.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: > > Hi, > > I've updated both ogle and ogle-gui ports to version 0.8.2. I > would like people to review them and tell me whether they work. > > -STABLE users such as myself have a problem with ogle since > the ata code can't reliably handle DVDs larger than 4Gb. There is > a pending MFC fix but we shouldn't expect it soon due to the holidays. > If you are using -STABLE and it works for you, you are lucky. :) > > Well, everything should work as expected, let me know what do > you find about this latest release of the nice ogle DVD player. For > those who do not know it, ogle does support DVD menus. > > The update port versions need to be tested before I commit > them to the ports' tree. You can grab them at > > http://people.freebsd.org/~lioux/ogle-0.8.2.tgz > http://people.freebsd.org/~lioux/ogle-gui-0.8.2.tgz > > Instructions: > > 1) remove all ogle ports from your system > - pkg_delete ogle* > > 2) install the updated ogle port > > 3) install the updated ogle-gui port > > Please follow these instructions to the letter. :) > > Regards, > > -- > Mario S F Ferreira - DF - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature." > Computer Science Undergraduate | FreeBSD Committer | CS Developer > flames to beloved devnull@someotherworldbeloworabove.org > feature, n: a documented bug | bug, n: an undocumented feature > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message I just installed & built from the ports tree and get: /usr/home/bspeirs> ogle Note[ogle_ctrl]: ogle 0.8.2 Debug[ogle_ctrl]: Started /usr/X11R6/lib/ogle/ogle_gui with pid 37670 warning: failed to load external entity "/home/bspeirs/.oglerc" WARNING[ogle_gui]: Couldn't load config file WARNING[ogle_gui]: interpret_config(): Couldn't read '/home/bspeirs/.oglerc' Error during dlopen: Cannot open "/lib/libglade.so.4" Debug[ogle_ctrl]: pid 0, unknown sigchld si_code: 0 Debug[ogle_ctrl]: pid: 37670 exited with status: 1 Debug[ogle_ctrl]: all children dead Debug[ogle_ctrl]: removing shmid: 3997698 Note[ogle_ctrl]: exiting I have no "/lib" directory. Is this a mis-configuration error? The libglade is installed on my system. /usr/home/bspeirs> locate libglade.so.4 /usr/local/lib/libglade.so.4 -- -Ben Speirs To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 0:54:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fepA.post.tele.dk (fepA.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEC137B417 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 00:54:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([62.243.18.9]) by fepA.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020105085429.PSYA27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there>; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 09:54:29 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen To: Randall Hopper , Bjarne Wichmann Petersen Subject: Re: OpenGL Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 09:55:30 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020104185158.RCWJ16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020104193902.A75152@nc.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <20020104193902.A75152@nc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020105085429.PSYA27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday 05 January 2002 01:39, Randall Hopper wrote: > It switches video modes, so I think that explains the latter. But back to > why you get 9-11 and I get 70-80. What do you mean bye "it switches video modes"? In .tuxracer/options you can set in what resolution you'd like to run tuxracer in. And I've run it at "every" mode between 640x480 to 1600x1200 (16 bit), and it does run at those modes. > ... > libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 1.1.0 mga (screen 0) > libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so > libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so > drmOpenByBusid: busid is PCI:1:5:0 > drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > drmOpenDevice: open result is 7, (OK) > drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 7 > drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports PCI:1:5:0 Hmm... I'm only getting: libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 1.0.0 mga libGL: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so libGL: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so Not a word about drm. But according to /var/log/XFree86.0.log drm is loaded and running. And dmesg too reports drm-activation: info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 64MB info: [drm] Initialized mga 3.0.2 20010321 on minor 0 So does this mean tuxracer isn't utilizing drm? Bjarne -- Homepage: http://www.mekanix.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 1: 2: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fepA.post.tele.dk (fepA.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C1A37B405 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 01:02:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([62.243.18.9]) by fepA.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020105090159.PUCN27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there>; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 10:01:59 +0100 From: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen To: Randall Hopper , Bjarne Wichmann Petersen Subject: Re: OpenGL Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 10:03:00 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020104185158.RCWJ16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020104172908.A62346@nc.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <20020104172908.A62346@nc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_0TJGLULWMFRBB5AM4ST4" Message-Id: <20020105090159.PUCN27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_0TJGLULWMFRBB5AM4ST4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Friday 04 January 2002 23:29, Randall Hopper wrote: > Re: gltron, I'm getting avg 98 with the 320x240. With 640x480 it's over 90 > max, but is very dependent on number of cycle tracks (10-98, w/ avg maybe > 40. Cool game, but not a great program as far as generating a useful > benchmarking number. Possible, I'm just using it because I seem to remember that it played so much nicer under Linux/X 3.3.something with utah-glx. And that was on a 400 MHz K6. > See how your "benchclock" numbers compare (see attached). This is from the > glclock port. Attached. My system seems to be running at ~50% of yours in HW/DRI-mode. So that should be ok. > Re: tuxracer -- Cool game! I'd never tried that one before. My FPS is in > the 70-80 range most of the time (this is at the default 640x480, full > screen, music/sounds on). Ok... so there is *really* something wrong with my setup! ;) > So there's another puzzle for us to solve: why your tuxracer is so slow. > Are you sure you're linked with the HW accelerated libGL and not a > software-only Mesa libGL (ldd /usr/local/bin/tuxracer | grep 'libGL\.')? $ ldd /usr/local/bin/tuxracer | grep 'libGL\.' libGL.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x283d7000) Should be correct. 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by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g05FQM103126; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 10:26:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 10:26:22 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Message-ID: <20020105102622.A2952@nc.rr.com> References: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020104185158.RCWJ16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020104193902.A75152@nc.rr.com> <20020105085429.PSYA27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020105085429.PSYA27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there>; from freebsd.nospam@mekanix.dk on Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 09:55:30AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bjarne Wichmann Petersen: |On Saturday 05 January 2002 01:39, Randall Hopper wrote: | |> It switches video modes, so I think that explains the latter. But back to |> why you get 9-11 and I get 70-80. | |What do you mean bye "it switches video modes"? In .tuxracer/options you can |set in what resolution you'd like to run tuxracer in. And I've run it at |"every" mode between 640x480 to 1600x1200 (16 bit), and it does run at those |modes. Sorry, my fault. I hadn't noticed that tuxracer lets you configure the video mode it switches to. I thought you were talking about the mode you were starting tuxracer from. |> drmOpenByBusid: busid is PCI:1:5:0 |> drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 |> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 ... |Hmm... I'm only getting: | |libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 1.0.0 mga |libGL: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so |libGL: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so | |Not a word about drm. But according to /var/log/XFree86.0.log drm is loaded |and running. And dmesg too reports drm-activation: | |info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 64MB |info: [drm] Initialized mga 3.0.2 20010321 on minor 0 | |So does this mean tuxracer isn't utilizing drm? It's possible (I'm assuming $LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose was set). Those drm debug strings come from the XFree86 Matrox DRI module (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so). However, we're running different XFree86 snapshots, and you're running the drm-kmod kernel modules on top (I'm running the stock XFree86 CVS DRM kernel module), so that may influence this somehow. I have a few things you might check which I'll put in the next reply. Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 10:42:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fepA.post.tele.dk (fepA.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F3C37B417 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 10:42:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([62.243.18.9]) by fepA.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020105184239.SRVI27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there>; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:42:39 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen To: Randall Hopper , Bjarne Wichmann Petersen Subject: Re: OpenGL Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:43:41 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020105090159.PUCN27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there> <20020105120024.A1094@nc.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <20020105120024.A1094@nc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020105184239.SRVI27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday 05 January 2002 18:00, Randall Hopper wrote: > 1) Verifying your libGL is the DRI-enabled one (it almost certainly is, but > just to double-check): > > strings /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 | grep XF86DRI Looks like the real thing: XF86DRIQueryExtension XF86DRIQueryVersion XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable XF86DRIOpenConnection XF86DRIAuthConnection XF86DRICloseConnection XF86DRIGetClientDriverName XF86DRICreateContext XF86DRIDestroyContext XF86DRICreateDrawable XF86DRIDestroyDrawable XF86DRIGetDrawableInfo XF86DRIGetDeviceInfo XF86DRIOpenFullScreen XF86DRICloseFullScreen XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable failed XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false XF86DRIQueryExtension failed XF86DRIQueryVersion failed XF86DRIGetClientDriverName failed XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: %d.%d.%d %s > 2) DRM module loaded > > kldstat | grep mga 7 1 0xc1483000 16000 mga.ko It seems loaded > 3) DRI device perms All tests passes ;) > 4) glxinfo probes drm, and renderer acknowledges DRI enabled: > > setenv LIBGL_DEBUG verbose > > glxinfo | grep DRI libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 1.0.0 mga libGL: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so libGL: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI G400 20010321 AGP 1x x86/MMX Looks ok > 5) DRM module claimed your graphics card: > > # pciconf -l | grep drm > drm0@pci1:5:0: class=0x030000 card=0x0641102b chip=0x0525102b rev=0x82 > \ hdr=0x00 drm0@pci1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x0338102b chip=0x0525102b rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 > Just for kicks you might try changing your desktop to 640x480x16bpp, and > then kick off tuxracer. That'll probably give you over 6MB more of > video RAM for texture. *This* actually made all the difference. I just pulled 50-60 FPS out of tuxracer. But shouldn't X release that memory it isn't utilizing when running in fullscreen mode? > 8) XFree86.0.log acknowledges DRI enabled?: > > MGA(0): Direct rendering enabled > (I e-mailed you my complete XFree86.0.log in case you want to compare). My XFree-log looks very similar to yours. Only thing I found could be interesting was: (II) MGA(0): [agp] 12288 kB allocated with handle 0xc1443040 ... (II) MGA(0): Reserved 1376 kb for textures at offset 0xea8000 Shouldn't have any influence though, I've just got a smaller card. BTW, what's this dpms I see in your log? > 10) Now I'm down to the wild guesses. I've read that not having an IRQ > assigned to your video card can cause big slowdowns, so might check > that: > > dmesg | grep -i drm0 drm0: mem 0xd7000000-0xd77fffff,0xd6000000-0xd6003fff,0xd4000000-0xd5ffffff irq 10 at device 0.0 on pci1 Thanks for all the help.... looks like it's time to go shopping for a new Matrox-card ;) Bjarne -- Homepage: http://www.mekanix.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 10:53:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from Mail6.nc.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0092237B420 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 10:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by Mail6.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:59:59 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g05H0OK01169; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 12:00:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 12:00:24 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Message-ID: <20020105120024.A1094@nc.rr.com> References: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020104185158.RCWJ16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020104172908.A62346@nc.rr.com> <20020105090159.PUCN27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020105090159.PUCN27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there>; from freebsd.nospam@mekanix.dk on Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 10:03:00AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bjarne Wichmann Petersen: |> Re: tuxracer -- Cool game! I'd never tried that one before. My FPS is in |> the 70-80 range most of the time (this is at the default 640x480, full |> screen, music/sounds on). | |Ok... so there is *really* something wrong with my setup! ;) | |> So there's another puzzle for us to solve: why your tuxracer is so slow. |> Are you sure you're linked with the HW accelerated libGL and not a |> software-only Mesa libGL (ldd /usr/local/bin/tuxracer | grep 'libGL\.')? | |$ ldd /usr/local/bin/tuxracer | grep 'libGL\.' | libGL.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x283d7000) Thanks for the glclock numbers. Here are some ideas for your tuxracer: 1) Verifying your libGL is the DRI-enabled one (it almost certainly is, but just to double-check): > strings /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 | grep XF86DRI 2) DRM module loaded > kldstat | grep mga 3 1 0xc041f000 183f4 mga.ko 3) DRI device perms > ls -ltd /dev drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 17408 Jan 5 09:18 /dev/ > ls -ltd /dev/dri drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 512 Jan 5 10:13 /dev/dri/ > ls -ltd /dev/dri/* crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 145, 0 Jan 5 10:13 /dev/dri/card0 4) glxinfo probes drm, and renderer acknowledges DRI enabled: > setenv LIBGL_DEBUG verbose > glxinfo | grep DRI libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 1.1.0 mga (screen 0) libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so drmOpenByBusid: busid is PCI:1:5:0 drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 6, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 6 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports PCI:1:5:0 OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI G400 20010622 AGP 4x x86/MMX NOTE: Only the last line was printed by glxinfo. All of the rest is debug prints from libGL, and the XFree86 mga dri module. 5) DRM module claimed your graphics card: # pciconf -l | grep drm drm0@pci1:5:0: class=0x030000 card=0x0641102b chip=0x0525102b rev=0x82 \ hdr=0x00 6) XF86Config I tried your XF86Config with my mouse, keyboard, and monitor sections plugged in and I still got the same performance out of tuxracer and glxgears as I was getting. So no help there... 7) Graphics card diffs Yours is a G400 16MB; mind is a G450 32MB DDR. The 3D performance is supposed to be about the same (my data path is 1/2 the width of yours, however my memory is DDR). I would guess you might be texture trashing, but that's unlikely since your video mode takes less than 1/2 of your video ram and I doubt tuxracer+XFree86 is eating > 8MB of texture. Just for kicks you might try changing your desktop to 640x480x16bpp, and then kick off tuxracer. That'll probably give you over 6MB more of video RAM for texture. 8) XFree86.0.log acknowledges DRI enabled?: MGA(0): Direct rendering enabled (I e-mailed you my complete XFree86.0.log in case you want to compare). 9) Try running tuxracer as root 10) Now I'm down to the wild guesses. I've read that not having an IRQ assigned to your video card can cause big slowdowns, so might check that: > dmesg | grep -i drm0 drm0: mem 0xf2000000-0xf27fffff,0xf2800000-0xf2803fff,\ 0xf4000000-0xf5ffffff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci1 Also, you might browse your AGP and video settings in your BIOS. Good luck. I'd be interested if you find any changes that improve your performance in any way. I'm still looking for tweaks here. Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 11:10:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.nc.rr.com (fe4.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E683137B41E for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:09:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by mail4.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:09:57 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g05JAHs31851; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:10:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:10:17 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Message-ID: <20020105141017.A31605@nc.rr.com> References: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020105090159.PUCN27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there> <20020105120024.A1094@nc.rr.com> <20020105184239.SRVI27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020105184239.SRVI27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there>; from freebsd.nospam@mekanix.dk on Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 07:43:41PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bjarne Wichmann Petersen: |> Just for kicks you might try changing your desktop to 640x480x16bpp, |> and then kick off tuxracer. That'll probably give you over 6MB more of |> video RAM for texture. | |*This* actually made all the difference. I just pulled 50-60 FPS out of |tuxracer. | |But shouldn't X release that memory it isn't utilizing when running in |fullscreen mode? I don't know what tuxracer is doing for sure, but probably not. In X, there's your video mode size, and there's your desktop size. The video mode is what's changing in tuxracer, but the desktop is what's occupying space on your graphics card. If you have a 1600x1200x32bpp desktop and use the vidmode extension to switch resolutions, 1600x1200x32bpp is still allocated on your card for you to move your viewport around on. My desktop is 1600x1280x16bpp, so my config is using about half the memory of yours for the frame buffer. My video mode is 1344x1008, but that doesn't affect the memory allocated -- just how much of it I can see at any instant (the viewport). |Thanks for all the help.... looks like it's time to go shopping for a new |Matrox-card ;) Or maybe just flip down to 16bpp (DefaultDepth 16 in the Screen section). Works for me. But 32MB G450's are so cheap nowadays you might just opt-in for one of those. If you do, be sure to get a DDR board: - G45+MDHA32DR - Retail G450 32MB DDR - G45+MDHA32DLXB - Non-retail G450 32MB DDR NOTE: The G450 LE is a 16MB SDR board. The DDR G450 boards are generally on-par with a G400 in performance, but the SDR G450's are step back. Can't speak to the 550's and newer. Anyway, glad we got you speeding along in tuxracer! And thanks for your help in getting me going with DRI. Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 11:16: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail8.nc.rr.com (fe8.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35A137B416 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:15:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by mail8.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:15:59 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g05JGTn32000; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:16:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:16:29 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Message-ID: <20020105141629.B31605@nc.rr.com> References: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020105090159.PUCN27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there> <20020105120024.A1094@nc.rr.com> <20020105184239.SRVI27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020105184239.SRVI27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there>; from freebsd.nospam@mekanix.dk on Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 07:43:41PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oops. I missed one of your questions. Bjarne Wichmann Petersen: |My XFree-log looks very similar to yours. Only thing I found could be |interesting was: | |(II) MGA(0): [agp] 12288 kB allocated with handle 0xc1443040 |... |(II) MGA(0): Reserved 1376 kb for textures at offset 0xea8000 | |Shouldn't have any influence though, I've just got a smaller card. | |BTW, what's this dpms I see in your log? It just says my monitor supports DPMS (display power management system, IIRC) commands, which allow the computer to throttle the power back the monitor power consumption when you're not using it. See the dpms references in XF86Config(5). You can configure and turn it on/off there, as well as with the "xset" command. Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 11:28:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E97037B417 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:28:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 16MwUR-0004uD-00; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 20:28:23 +0100 Received: from b80f0.pppool.de ([213.7.128.240] helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 16MwUQ-000543-00; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 20:28:23 +0100 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g05IlZr11586; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:47:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200201051847.g05IlZr11586@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:47:34 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: mplayer & esd To: stolz@hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020104201338.A763@i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 4 Jan, Volker Stolz wrote: > Hi, I was wondering why mplayer is explicitly built without > esd support. I checked the mailing list archives and cvs logs, > but couldn't find any hint. ESD adds a lot of latency to the output. I don't know anything about the reasons of the port maintainer, but personally I didn't think it is a good idea to pipe the sound output of a video player through esd (sound lag looks ugly). Bye, Alexander. -- Secret hacker rule #11: hackers read manuals. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 12:11:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fepB.post.tele.dk (fepB.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A15237B419 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 12:11:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([62.243.18.9]) by fepB.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020105201154.MUVX22989.fepB.post.tele.dk@there>; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 21:11:54 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen To: Randall Hopper Subject: Re: OpenGL Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 21:12:57 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020103212324.ILQT16766.fepD.post.tele.dk@there> <20020105184239.SRVI27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@there> <20020105141017.A31605@nc.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <20020105141017.A31605@nc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020105201154.MUVX22989.fepB.post.tele.dk@there> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday 05 January 2002 20:10, Randall Hopper wrote: > Or maybe just flip down to 16bpp (DefaultDepth 16 in the Screen section). > Works for me. But I *am* running at 16bpp, DRI gets disable at 32bpp ;) > But 32MB G450's are so cheap nowadays you might just opt-in for one of > those. If you do, be sure to get a DDR board: > > - G45+MDHA32DR - Retail G450 32MB DDR > - G45+MDHA32DLXB - Non-retail G450 32MB DDR I'll remember this. > Anyway, glad we got you speeding along in tuxracer! And thanks for your > help in getting me going with DRI. I'ts me that is thanking! ;) Bjarne -- Homepage: http://www.mekanix.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 12:37:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E11E37B405 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 12:37:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from f113.hadiko.de (root@hadif113.hadiko.uni-karlsruhe.de [172.20.42.143]) by mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16MxZP-0004JV-00; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 21:37:35 +0100 Received: (from riggs@localhost) by f113.hadiko.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g05KbZ763116 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 21:37:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from riggs) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 21:37:35 +0100 From: "Thomas E. Zander" To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer & esd Message-ID: <20020105203735.GA61362@f113.hadiko.de> References: <20020104201338.A763_i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de@ns.sol.net> <200201041959.g04JxNr77515@sheol.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200201041959.g04JxNr77515@sheol.localdomain> Organization: RiggiServ - Ihr Partner =?iso-8859-15?Q?f?= =?iso-8859-15?Q?=FCr?= alles Delikate X-PGP-KeyID: 0xC85996CD X-PGP-Fingerprint: 4F59 75B4 4CE3 3B00 BC61 5400 8DD4 8929 C859 96CD X-Operating-System: Riggiland BSD 4.4-STABLE (To serve and protect.) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Fri, 04. Jan 2002, at 13:59 -0600, D J Hawkey Jr wrote according to [Re: mplayer & esd]: > You're referring to the FreeBSD port and/or package? I couldn't tell > you, except that, from my experience bulding mplayer from their source, > the 'configure' script modifies the build and executable to suit the > system it is run on. P'raps the port maintainer doesn't have ESD, so > the port and/or package therefore doesn't have it? No, since sdl depends on esd, it is installed, anyway. Just, there wasn't any working esd plugin, but still that configure option, so it seemed to be senseful to explicately disable it. This, btw, won't be necessary in the new version of mplayer. Riggs -- - "[...] I talked to the computer at great length and -- explained my view of the Universe to it" said Marvin. --- And what happened?" pressed Ford. ---- "It committed suicide." said Marvin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 16:57:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E0937B405 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 16:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from winston.freebsd.org (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g060vNJ15145; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 16:57:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@winston.freebsd.org) To: Randall Hopper Cc: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL In-Reply-To: Message from Randall Hopper of "Sat, 05 Jan 2002 12:00:24 EST." <20020105120024.A1094@nc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 16:57:22 -0800 Message-ID: <15141.1010278642@winston.freebsd.org> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Seeing your guys' conversation here compelled me to give DRI acceleration another try, so I did a make World in both the XFree86-current tree and in the DRI development branch you pointed to and installed the results (though to get `make install' to function in the DRI bits, I had to remove the tdfx driver from the build list). Now I'm going down your checklist: > 1) Verifying your libGL is the DRI-enabled one (it almost certainly is, but > just to double-check): Check. The X server also identifies itself as: XFree86 Version 4.1.99.1 (DRI bsd-2-0-0) / X Window System > 2) DRM module loaded > > > kldstat | grep mga > 3 1 0xc041f000 183f4 mga.ko No check. This has me stumped. root@winston-> kldload /a/local/lib/drm/mga.ko kldload: can't load /a/local/lib/drm/mga.ko: Exec format error This is as installed from /usr/ports/graphics/drm-kmod and, for some reason, the resulting modules are disliked by my 4.5-PRERELEASE system. How are you getting a usable mga.ko module? > 3) DRI device perms > > > ls -ltd /dev > drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 17408 Jan 5 09:18 /dev/ > > ls -ltd /dev/dri > drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 512 Jan 5 10:13 /dev/dri/ > > ls -ltd /dev/dri/* > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 145, 0 Jan 5 10:13 /dev/dri/card0 And how did you get this created without devfs? I see nothing in our MAKEDEV which supports this. My system is an older AMD Athlon (Slot-A) with ASUS K7 mobo and Matrox MGA G400 AGP. Even without DRI support, I get glxgears to do ``860 frames in 5.0 seconds = 172.000 FPS'', though things like sproingies and tuxracer turn in something closer to 4-5 FPS. I've also recompiled both from scratch, just in case they're linking with something weird, but no luck. Any ideas for someone who's a few steps further back than you guys? :) Thanks! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 17: 7:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B2437B402 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 17:07:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from winston.freebsd.org (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g06174J44614; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 17:07:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@winston.freebsd.org) To: Randall Hopper Cc: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL In-Reply-To: Message from Randall Hopper of "Sat, 05 Jan 2002 12:00:24 EST." <20020105120024.A1094@nc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 17:07:04 -0800 Message-ID: <44610.1010279224@winston.freebsd.org> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just to follow up to myself - I now know why the mga.ko module won't load. It's referencing non-existent agp_find_device() and agp_get_info() functions. I'll try adding a `device agp' to my kernel config file and see if that gets properly dragged in. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 17:30:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.nc.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D598037B402 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 17:30:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by mail5.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 5 Jan 2002 20:30:22 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g061Ulp32313; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 20:30:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 20:30:46 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Message-ID: <20020105203046.A29015@nc.rr.com> References: <44610.1010279224@winston.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <44610.1010279224@winston.freebsd.org>; from jkh@winston.freebsd.org on Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 05:07:04PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jordan Hubbard: |Just to follow up to myself - I now know why the mga.ko module won't |load. It's referencing non-existent agp_find_device() and |agp_get_info() functions. I'll try adding a `device agp' to my kernel |config file and see if that gets properly dragged in. That'll probably do it. Here on an old 4.3-stable agp.ko defines it: > nm -Bo agp.ko | grep agp_find_device agp.ko:00003ab4 T agp_find_device > nm -Bo drm.ko | grep agp_find_device drm.ko: U agp_find_device > nm -Bo mga.ko | grep agp_find_device mga.ko: U agp_find_device > find /usr/src -name '*.c' | xargs grep '^agp_find_device' /usr/src/sys/pci/agp.c:agp_find_device() ^C Nothing special in my rc.conf or loader.conf to pick up agp.ko, but I do have "device agp" in my kernel config. Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 17:44:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.nc.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A3C37B404 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 17:44:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by mail5.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 5 Jan 2002 20:44:19 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g061ioP32552; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 20:44:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 20:44:50 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Message-ID: <20020105204450.B29015@nc.rr.com> References: <15141.1010278642@winston.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15141.1010278642@winston.freebsd.org>; from jkh@winston.freebsd.org on Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 04:57:22PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jordan Hubbard: |Seeing your guys' conversation here compelled me to give DRI |acceleration another try, so I did a make World in both the |XFree86-current tree and in the DRI development branch you pointed to |and installed the results (though to get `make install' to function in |the DRI bits, I had to remove the tdfx driver from the build list). I never did get the SourceForge DRM tree to build. For my Matrox, I used the DRM modules in the XFree86 CVS tree. No problems. |Now I'm going down your checklist: | |> 1) Verifying your libGL is the DRI-enabled one (it almost certainly is, but |> just to double-check): | |Check. The X server also identifies itself as: |XFree86 Version 4.1.99.1 (DRI bsd-2-0-0) / X Window System Interesting. My XFree86.0.log says: XFree86 Version 4.1.99.4 / X Window System this is XFree86 CVS from Thursday, with the XFree86 CVS DRM module (mga.ko). |> 2) DRM module loaded |> |> > kldstat | grep mga |> 3 1 0xc041f000 183f4 mga.ko | |No check. This has me stumped. Here, I have: > cat /boot/loader.conf userconfig_script_load="YES" linux_load="YES" -> mga_load="YES" hw.ata.atapi_dma=1 autoboot_delay="2" # Delay in seconds before autobooting I cd'ed into the BSD DRM subtree of the XFree86 CVS tree and did a make -f Makefile.bsd, then copied mga.ko into /modules. That may not be the approved way to do it, but it worked. |root@winston-> kldload /a/local/lib/drm/mga.ko |kldload: can't load /a/local/lib/drm/mga.ko: Exec format error | |This is as installed from /usr/ports/graphics/drm-kmod and, for some |reason, the resulting modules are disliked by my 4.5-PRERELEASE |system. How are you getting a usable mga.ko module? XFree86 CVS's DRM. I ignored drm-kmod port and SourceFource DRI. |> 3) DRI device perms |> |> > ls -ltd /dev |> drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 17408 Jan 5 09:18 /dev/ |> > ls -ltd /dev/dri |> drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 512 Jan 5 10:13 /dev/dri/ |> > ls -ltd /dev/dri/* |> crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 145, 0 Jan 5 10:13 /dev/dri/card0 | |And how did you get this created without devfs? I see nothing in our |MAKEDEV which supports this. This is a mystery device to me. It's created on boot-up, presumably by the mga kernel module (or drm module). I tried chmod'ing it once just for kicks and (poof!) it "disappeared", until I rebooted that is. Then it reappeared just as before. I think its permissions are set by the: Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection bit in XF86Config. |My system is an older AMD Athlon (Slot-A) with ASUS K7 mobo and Matrox |MGA G400 AGP. Even without DRI support, I get glxgears to do ``860 |frames in 5.0 seconds = 172.000 FPS'', though things like sproingies |and tuxracer turn in something closer to 4-5 FPS. I've also |recompiled both from scratch, just in case they're linking with |something weird, but no luck. | |Any ideas for someone who's a few steps further back than you guys? :) I'm think you're on the right track in that the first order of business is to get that mga kernel module loading. Then some of the tips I offered to Bjarne earlier in this thread might be useful ("setenv LIBGL_DEBUG verbose", "setenv LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT 1", etc.) Feel free to shout if you need some more assistance. Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 18:57:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B12137B405 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:57:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from winston.freebsd.org (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g062utD00433; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:56:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@winston.freebsd.org) To: Randall Hopper Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL In-Reply-To: Message from Randall Hopper of "Sat, 05 Jan 2002 20:30:46 EST." <20020105203046.A29015@nc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 18:56:55 -0800 Message-ID: <429.1010285815@winston.freebsd.org> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK, I've manged to now get all the way down your checklist, including all the kernel modules properly loading and whatnot. glxgears also now reports: root@winston-> glxgears libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 1.0.0 mga (screen 0) libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so drmOpenByBusid: busid is PCI:1:0:0 drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 6, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 6 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports PCI:1:0:0 2761 frames in 5.0 seconds = 552.200 FPS 2905 frames in 5.0 seconds = 581.000 FPS Though, oddly enough, it looks a lot slower to the eye. Maybe it's spinning so fast that I'm seeing a strobe effect. :) sproingies is just about as fast (slow) as before, but tuxracer is now very playable! Woohoo! Thanks for all the insights, guys! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 18:59:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623FE37B416 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:59:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from winston.freebsd.org (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g062xeD00456; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:59:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@winston.freebsd.org) To: Randall Hopper Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL In-Reply-To: Message from Randall Hopper of "Sat, 05 Jan 2002 20:44:50 EST." <20020105204450.B29015@nc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 18:59:40 -0800 Message-ID: <452.1010285980@winston.freebsd.org> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I never did get the SourceForge DRM tree to build. For my Matrox, I used > the DRM modules in the XFree86 CVS tree. No problems. Ah, OK. Well, I do have that building which is probably why your X server shows itself to be 4.1.99.4 and mine 4.1.99.1 - I'm replacing the XFree86 server bits with the Sourceforge DRI bits. Looks like that step's actually unnecessary though if XFree86 installs its own. > XFree86 CVS's DRM. I ignored drm-kmod port and SourceFource DRI. Ah, then I can probably delete the drm-kmod port now. That part works too, BTW, once I added device agp to my kernel. I wish kldload would give better diagnostics! "Exec format error" somehow doesn't suggest "I'm missing some symbols, dude!" to me. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 5 20:22:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail7.nc.rr.com (fe7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DCC37B419 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 20:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.cary.dummynet ([66.26.231.240]) by mail7.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 5 Jan 2002 23:22:05 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.cary.dummynet (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g064MS634907; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 23:22:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.cary.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 23:22:28 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenGL Message-ID: <20020105232228.A34785@nc.rr.com> References: <429.1010285815@winston.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <429.1010285815@winston.freebsd.org>; from jkh@winston.freebsd.org on Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 06:56:55PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jordan Hubbard: |OK, I've manged to now get all the way down your checklist, including |all the kernel modules properly loading and whatnot. glxgears also |now reports: ... |2905 frames in 5.0 seconds = 581.000 FPS | |Though, oddly enough, it looks a lot slower to the eye. Maybe it's |spinning so fast that I'm seeing a strobe effect. :) I saw the same, and I think think you're right (the frames are rendering over 8X faster than the monitor is refreshing, so I guess it's to be expected). |sproingies is just about as fast (slow) as before, but tuxracer |is now very playable! Woohoo! Thanks for all the insights, guys! Cool. Glad you're up and running now! Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message