From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 17 1:36:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03-gb.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.15.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8327237B400 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 01:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p141.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.141]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA48412; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:36:16 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g2H8I3200399; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 09:18:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 09:18:03 +0100 (CET) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: Sean LeBlanc Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VCD creation questions In-Reply-To: <20020316111526.A57318@hostwiththemost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > it created didn't seem to be one that vcdimager liked). Does anyone know > different tools that are just as good as or better than mjpegtools? mjpeg is not MPEG 1. Btw, what is better with a VCD than to use a simple MPEG file on an ordinary CD ? H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 17 1:48: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20B1437B41B for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 01:48:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 64247 invoked by uid 100); 17 Mar 2002 09:47:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15508.26186.512551.631412@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 03:47:54 -0600 To: Heiko Recktenwald Cc: Sean LeBlanc , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VCD creation questions In-Reply-To: References: <20020316111526.A57318@hostwiththemost> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.49 (Python 2.2 on freebsd4) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In , Heiko Recktenwald typed: > > it created didn't seem to be one that vcdimager liked). Does anyone know > > different tools that are just as good as or better than mjpegtools? I use mkvcdfs in the vcdtools package. It doesn't give you as much control, but the vcd's it turns out seem to work on more things. > Btw, what is better with a VCD than to use a simple MPEG file on an > ordinary CD ? How many DVD players will play an MPEG file on an ordinary CD? Or a set of them, for that matter. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 17 4:46:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03-gb.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.15.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A941737B417 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 04:46:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p181.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.181]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA55178; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:46:28 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g2HCiv600356; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:44:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:44:57 +0100 (CET) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VCD creation questions In-Reply-To: <15508.26186.512551.631412@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Btw, what is better with a VCD than to use a simple MPEG file on an > > ordinary CD ? > > How many DVD players will play an MPEG file on an ordinary CD? Or a > set of them, for that matter. You are right, another target. H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 17 9:29:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F159737B43D for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 09:29:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.lakwod3.co.home.com ([12.253.150.137]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020317172950.ICRK2626.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@localhost.lakwod3.co.home.com>; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:29:50 +0000 In-reply-to: <15508.26186.512551.631412@guru.mired.org>; from mwm-dated-1016790475.f72d0c@mired.org on Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 03:47:54AM -0600 Subject: Re: VCD creation questions Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit References: <20020316111526.A57318@hostwiththemost> <15508.26186.512551.631412@guru.mired.org> To: Mike Meyer From: Sean LeBlanc Cc: Heiko Recktenwald , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-mda: Mail::Internet Mail::Sendmail Sendmail +mmhack 1.1 on Linux Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Mime-version: 1.0 Content-disposition: inline Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:33:07 -0700 Message-id: <20020317103307.A60809@hostwiththemost> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 03-17 03:47, Mike Meyer wrote: > In , Heiko Recktenwald typed: > > > it created didn't seem to be one that vcdimager liked). Does anyone know > > > different tools that are just as good as or better than mjpegtools? > > I use mkvcdfs in the vcdtools package. It doesn't give you as much > control, but the vcd's it turns out seem to work on more things. Okay, thanks, but if my original source is AVI, I'm having trouble converting to an MPEG that either mkvcdfs or vcdimager likes. I originally used ffmpeg, and while it turns out an MPEG, it doesn't seem to have the record length that is acceptable with VCD? While hunting about, I found that mjpeg has some directions for how to create VCDs using their tools...but I can't seem to compile the tools, so I'm still up the proverbial creek. -- Sean LeBlanc:seanleblanc@attbi.com Yahoo:seanleblancathome ICQ:138565743 MSN:seanleblancathome AIM:sleblancathome Beware of sheep in sheep's clothing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 17 9:33: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 555B037B43D for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 09:32:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2530 invoked by uid 100); 17 Mar 2002 17:32:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15508.54085.61318.525144@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:32:53 -0600 To: Sean LeBlanc Cc: Heiko Recktenwald , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VCD creation questions In-Reply-To: <20020317103307.A60809@hostwiththemost> References: <20020316111526.A57318@hostwiththemost> <15508.26186.512551.631412@guru.mired.org> <20020317103307.A60809@hostwiththemost> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.49 (Python 2.2 on freebsd4) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In <20020317103307.A60809@hostwiththemost>, Sean LeBlanc typed: > On 03-17 03:47, Mike Meyer wrote: > > In , Heiko Recktenwald typed: > > > > it created didn't seem to be one that vcdimager liked). Does anyone know > > > > different tools that are just as good as or better than mjpegtools? > > I use mkvcdfs in the vcdtools package. It doesn't give you as much > > control, but the vcd's it turns out seem to work on more things. > Okay, thanks, but if my original source is AVI, I'm having trouble > converting to an MPEG that either mkvcdfs or vcdimager likes. I originally > used ffmpeg, and while it turns out an MPEG, it doesn't seem to have the > record length that is acceptable with VCD? While hunting about, I found that > mjpeg has some directions for how to create VCDs using their tools...but I > can't seem to compile the tools, so I'm still up the proverbial creek. If its just the record length, you probably want vcdpad, which is a port of it's own. It pads an mpeg file out to the block size required for turning it into a VCD. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 17 10:55:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.nl (smtp3.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95C837B444 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:55:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (i1001.vwr.wanadoo.nl [194.134.211.237]) by smtp3.wanadoo.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g2HIsjv21925; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:54:46 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:54:40 +0100 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Sean LeBlanc Cc: mwm-dated-1016790475.f72d0c@mired.org, uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VCD creation questions Message-Id: <20020317195440.233d8a3b.steve@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20020317103307.A60809@hostwiththemost> References: <20020316111526.A57318@hostwiththemost> <15508.26186.512551.631412@guru.mired.org> <20020317103307.A60809@hostwiththemost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.5) X-Face: %]+HVL}K`P8>+8ZcY-WGHP6j@&mxMo9JH6_WdgIgUGH)JX/usO0%jy7T~IVgqjumD^OBqX,Kv^-GM6mlw(fI^$"QRKyZ$?xx/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:33:07 -0700 Sean LeBlanc wrote: SL> Okay, thanks, but if my original source is AVI, I'm having trouble SL> converting to an MPEG that either mkvcdfs or vcdimager likes. I originally Have you tried mencoder (part of mplayer) ? -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 18 6:56:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from smtpproxy1.mitre.org (smtpproxy1.mitre.org [129.83.20.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E2D37B402 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 06:56:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from avsrv1.mitre.org (avsrv1.mitre.org [129.83.20.58]) by smtpproxy1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2IEu9828524; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:56:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAILHUB1 (mailhub1.mitre.org [129.83.20.31]) by smtpsrv1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2IEu8k13637; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:56:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from dhcp-105-164.mitre.org (128.29.105.164) by mailhub1.mitre.org with SMTP id 9535274; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:55:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3C960009.FDCF003A@mitre.org> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:56:09 -0500 From: Jason Andresen Organization: The MITRE Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-20000818M (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: Mike Meyer , freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some video Capture questions (Was: Some audio capture questions) References: <20020315074048.A12682@hostwiththemost> <15506.40571.544247.899130@guru.mired.org> <20020316084125.3b2b0874.steve@sohara.org> <15507.9577.337812.353727@guru.mired.org> <20020316145438.7695fac0.steve@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 04:58:49 -0600 > Mike Meyer wrote: > > MM> Since you seem to have a grasp of these numbers, let me ask this one: > > I'm getting a grasp for them :) > > MM> I've got two machines, A and B. B has enough oomph to capture > MM> real-time video - it's done it. B doesn't, or at least didn't when I > MM> tried using MS's software on it without tuning. However, the video > MM> feed of interest is tied to B. How much oomph does B need in order to > MM> get the bits to A to capture them? I don't need on-the-fly encoding, > MM> so I'll give it up to get good quality. > > Hmm there's a good one. It all comes down to byte shuffling bandwidth > though. First biggie is full resolution (640x480 for NTSC or 768x576 PAL) > or half resolution. All real time video handling I've seen going to date > has been in half res - (full res is rather a lot of bps ~30Mbyte/sec for > RGB24 or ~20Mbtye for most useful YUV formats). This is too much for nearly > all systems - going to half res quarters the bandwidth (5-7.5Mbytes per > second). Actually, I'm able to encode at full resolution on an AthlonXP 1700 using Charles Henrich's (henrich@sigbus.com) mencoder hacks and a BT878 card. It's certainly feasable with modern hardware to encode good quality video at full frame rate. One strange thing about PC hardware though: I cannot dump raw YUY2 frame data to my HD in realtime, I have to encode the data somehow to avoid saturating the bus. -- \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen jandrese@mitre.org |\/ | | | / _| Network and Distributed Systems Engineer _| _|___| _| _|_\___| Office: 703-883-7755 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 18 10:27:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.nl (smtp3.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F47737B400 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:27:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (i1471.vwr.wanadoo.nl [194.134.213.197]) by smtp3.wanadoo.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g2IIRav11856; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:27:37 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:27:31 +0100 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Jason Andresen Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some video Capture questions (Was: Some audio capture questions) Message-Id: <20020318192731.179b7400.steve@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <3C960009.FDCF003A@mitre.org> References: <20020315074048.A12682@hostwiththemost> <15506.40571.544247.899130@guru.mired.org> <20020316084125.3b2b0874.steve@sohara.org> <15507.9577.337812.353727@guru.mired.org> <20020316145438.7695fac0.steve@sohara.org> <3C960009.FDCF003A@mitre.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.5) X-Face: %]+HVL}K`P8>+8ZcY-WGHP6j@&mxMo9JH6_WdgIgUGH)JX/usO0%jy7T~IVgqjumD^OBqX,Kv^-GM6mlw(fI^$"QRKyZ$?xx/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:56:09 -0500 Jason Andresen wrote: JA> Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: JA> Actually, I'm able to encode at full resolution on an AthlonXP 1700 JA> using JA> Charles Henrich's (henrich@sigbus.com) mencoder hacks and a BT878 card. JA> It's certainly feasable with modern hardware to encode good quality JA> video at full frame rate. Whoa there - this is interesting! I am having no end of trouble with those same hacks on my Athlon 1200, I have exchanged many emails with Charles Henrich and I think we are both currently baffled. It seems to be thrashing very badly somewhere and produces awful results (at half resolution). You seem to have it working properly, I would like to explore the differences. I started from mp0305cv.tgz and xvid_snapshot_21_01_2002.tar.gz, are these the same ones you have ? I've also hacked up ffmpeg to grab from bktr which does grab video nicely (at 384x288) but the sound is several seconds out of sync :( I tried this code at 768x576 and extrapolated that something around an XP1600 might just cope - it is nice to hear confirmation. JA> One strange thing about PC hardware though: I cannot dump raw YUY2 frame JA> data JA> to my HD in realtime, I have to encode the data somehow to avoid That's something like 20 Mbytes per second - few hard discs can sustain that rate, especially in face of the occasional request to do something else. -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 18 12:49: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from hindenburg.eboai.org (hindenburg.eboai.org [206.183.134.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD2B37B405 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:48:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by hindenburg.eboai.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 08AE05E2E1; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:48:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:48:54 -0500 From: Chip Marshall To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Simple video capture cards Message-ID: <20020318204854.GA50975@setzer.chocobo.cx> Reply-To: chip@chocobo.cx Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-URL: http://www.chocobo.cx/chip/ X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 up 162 days, 14:14 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a little off-topic, but I figured people here would know. I'm looking for a supplier of inexpensive PCI video capture cards based on a b8xx chipset. We used to use Hauppauge cards, but they don't seem to have anything without a TV tuner these days. Basically we're just looking for something to use with camserv to do some basic webcam-type stuff. Any leads would be appreciated. --=20 Chip Marshall http://www.chocobo.cx/chip/ GCM/CS d+(-) s+:++ a20>? C++ UB++++$ P+++$ L- E--- W++ N@ o K- w O M+ V-- PS+ PE Y+ PGP+ t+@ 5 X R@ tv+() b++>+++ DI++++ D(-) G++ e>++ h->++ r++ y- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8llK18vyTVl6qbdQRAs9RAKCh1gEOCElf6Z435fm1LMYaq7Y7qACdHMZN bMmi4ka5+fqTOMvahjldAGk= =cyx2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 19 6:28:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from smtpproxy2.mitre.org (smtpproxy2.mitre.org [198.76.173.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6174E37B416 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 06:28:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from avsrv2.mitre.org (avsrv2.mitre.org [128.29.154.4]) by smtpproxy2.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2JESG525463; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:28:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAILHUB1 (mailhub1.mitre.org [129.83.20.31]) by smtpsrv2.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2JESFJ09231; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:28:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from dhcp-105-164.mitre.org (128.29.105.164) by mailhub1.mitre.org with SMTP id 9552047; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:26:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3C974AA1.DF0A56B5@mitre.org> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:26:41 -0500 From: Jason Andresen Organization: The MITRE Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-20000818M (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some video Capture questions (Was: Some audio capture questions) References: <20020315074048.A12682@hostwiththemost> <15506.40571.544247.899130@guru.mired.org> <20020316084125.3b2b0874.steve@sohara.org> <15507.9577.337812.353727@guru.mired.org> <20020316145438.7695fac0.steve@sohara.org> <3C960009.FDCF003A@mitre.org> <20020318192731.179b7400.steve@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:56:09 -0500 > Jason Andresen wrote: > > JA> Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > JA> Actually, I'm able to encode at full resolution on an AthlonXP 1700 > JA> using > JA> Charles Henrich's (henrich@sigbus.com) mencoder hacks and a BT878 card. > JA> It's certainly feasable with modern hardware to encode good quality > JA> video at full frame rate. > > Whoa there - this is interesting! > > I am having no end of trouble with those same hacks on my Athlon 1200, > I have exchanged many emails with Charles Henrich and I think we are both > currently baffled. It seems to be thrashing very badly somewhere and produces > awful results (at half resolution). You seem to have it working properly, I > would like to explore the differences. I started from mp0305cv.tgz and > xvid_snapshot_21_01_2002.tar.gz, are these the same ones you have ? Oh, I just remembered. XVid compiles by default with none of the optimizations turned on (like the custom assembly and even -O). I didn't notice that the first time and got really awful performace out of it (couldn't encode half frames at realtime!). Once I beat the makefile a bit and made it compile with the custom assembly and with the optimization flags turned on I managed to get good performance out of it. -- \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen jandrese@mitre.org |\/ | | | / _| Network and Distributed Systems Engineer _| _|___| _| _|_\___| Office: 703-883-7755 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 20 5: 8: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fuego.fadesa.es (fuego.fadesa.es [195.55.55.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2D237B404 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 05:07:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mail@fadesa.es) by fuego.fadesa.es (8.9.3/8.8.8) id QAA09008; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:33:26 +0100 Message-ID: <3C9897B6.5440650A@fadesa.es> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:07:50 +0000 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= M. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fandi=F1o?=" Reply-To: freebsd@fadesa.es Organization: Inmobiliaria FADESA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.20 i686) X-Accept-Language: gl, en, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean LeBlanc , freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some audio capture questions References: <20020315074048.A12682@hostwiththemost> <3C921767.F8DE91F5@fadesa.es> <20020317125611.A74777@hostwiththemost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Logged: Logged by tierra.fadesa.es as OAA10343 at Wed Mar 20 14:08:13 2002 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sean LeBlanc wrote: > > > Hi, I saw some questions about audio recording earlier. I have some > > > questions of my own. I am basement DJ, and I'd like to capture my sessions > > > to something like MP3 or Ogg via my soundcard. I currently have a Aureal > > > Vortex 8830 (that's what dmesg says, anyway). Will this hardware work? > > > Also, do any tools exist to do on-the-fly capture and encoding to MP3 or > > > Ogg? > > > > sox + lame > > Do you have any examples of how to use these two to capture from audio card > to Ogg/MP3? yes, I'm using an AC97 soundcard. First check the record input and level (just use aumix, umix, kmix for this) and then I use this command line: sox -V -t ossdsp -c 2 -r 44100 -t wav - | lame -abr 192 -b 160 -m s -q 2 - sample.mp3 (of course, you must select your quality preferences for mp3 encoding.) and for funny real-time effects you can use: sox -V -t ossdsp -c 2 -r 44100 -t ossdsp -c 2 -r 44100 echos 0.8 0.7 40.0 0.25 63.0 0.3 in the soxexam(1) manpage there are more curious examples ;) regards, -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/IT d- s+:+() a- C+++ UBL+++$ P+ L+++ E--- W++ N+ o++ K- w--- O+ M+ V- PS+ PE+ Y++ PGP+>+++ t+ 5 X+$ R- tv-- b+++ DI D++>+++ G++ e- h+(++) !r !z ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 20 6:30:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from crimson.engin.umich.edu (crimson.engin.umich.edu [141.213.74.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B383A37B47F for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 06:29:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (IDENT:agorski@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crimson.engin.umich.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g2KET9Y11620 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:29:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:29:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Adam D. Gorski" To: Subject: ES1370 screeching/noise Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey, I just recently installed 4.5-STABLE and have been configuring things since. I seem to have a problem with my SoundBlaster PCI64 (es1370 chipset). Basically if I try to play mp3's, local or from a stream, I hear the music, but along with horrible screeching, popping, and general noise. I tried searching google, I also tried searching this mailing list, but none of the fixed I came across (and understood :P) seem to help me. I have both xmms (with no esd support as far as I can tell) and mpg123 installed, and both produce the sceeching. I can play CDs fine (this is outside the pcm driver I assume) and I can 'cat foo.au > /dev/audio' with no problems as well. For now it's just mp3 files and streams that seem to produce this problem. Here is some relevant output: -- from dmesg -- pcm0: port 0xb800-0xb83f irq 5 at device 10.0 on pci0 -- from cat /dev/sndstat -- FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Mar 19 2002 21:38:26 Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0xb800 irq 5 (1p/1r/0v channels duplex) -- from vmstat -i -- interrupt total rate ata0 irq14 1259 0 ata1 irq15 26711 0 xl0 irq9 44092 1 pcm0 irq5 14488 0 mux irq10 37780 0 rl0 irq11 9607 0 fdc0 irq6 2 0 atkbd0 irq1 34110 0 psm0 irq12 288241 6 ppc0 irq7 1 0 clk irq0 4201868 99 rtc irq8 5378405 127 Total 10036564 238 If anyone has any ideas and/or information, it would make my day :) Thanks! - Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 21 10:46:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mgr1.xmission.com (mgr1.xmission.com [198.60.22.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A0637B41C for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 10:46:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [198.60.22.22] (helo=mail.xmission.com) by mgr1.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 16o7Zl-0001X2-00 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:46:13 -0700 Received: from shell.xmission.com ([198.60.22.20] helo=xmission.xmission.com) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 16o7Zl-0007pe-00 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:46:13 -0700 Received: from jch by xmission.xmission.com with local (Exim 3.16 #3) id 16o7Zk-0006dn-00 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:46:12 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:46:12 -0700 From: Jason Hill To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: burncd, dao, atapi oh my Message-ID: <20020321184612.GA24268@xmission.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm running 4.5-RELEASE and would like to burn an audio cd in DAO mode (HP8110 ATAPI). I tried to cvsup to 5.0-CURRENT to use the new burncd w/DAO support, but I received ioctl errors just before burning. Checking through the mailing archives, I can't seem to find any recent messages about this. Is there any way of burning in DAO mode w/an ATAPI CD-RW under FreeBSD 4.5? A couple off topic questions... 1. Why doesn't FreeBSD support ATAPI/CAM layer (as Net/OpenBSD appear to) so that I could use cdrecord instead of burncd? 2. Why is burncd tied so closely to the kernel and not released as a port? If burncd has a new feature, you have to upgrade the kernel to use it -- that seems crazy to me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 21 11:26:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FB737B404 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16o8CS-0007MI-0B; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:26:12 +0100 Received: from Magelan.Leidinger.net (520065502893-0001@[217.229.218.43]) by fmrl00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 16o8CR-1bihdIC; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:26:11 +0100 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2LJQ3Ri000602; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:26:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200203211926.g2LJQ3Ri000602@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:26:03 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: burncd, dao, atapi oh my To: jch@xmission.com Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020321184612.GA24268@xmission.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Sender: 520065502893-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 21 Mär, Jason Hill wrote: > I'm running 4.5-RELEASE and would like to burn an audio cd in DAO > mode (HP8110 ATAPI). I tried to cvsup to 5.0-CURRENT to use the new > burncd w/DAO support, but I received ioctl errors just before burning. > Checking through the mailing archives, I can't seem to find any recent > messages about this. > > Is there any way of burning in DAO mode w/an ATAPI CD-RW under FreeBSD 4.5? cvsup to -stable, there's ATAPI support at the same level as -current now. > A couple off topic questions... > > 1. Why doesn't FreeBSD support ATAPI/CAM layer (as Net/OpenBSD appear to) > so that I could use cdrecord instead of burncd? - There's a cdrecord port which uses the ATAPI layer, search the archives for "Søren" and "cdrecord". There should be a message from this week. - There are patches floating around now, which connect the ATAPI layer to the CAM layer (for -current). It's mentioned in the same thread as the ATAPI version of cdrecord. > 2. Why is burncd tied so closely to the kernel and not released as a port? > If burncd has a new feature, you have to upgrade the kernel to use it -- > that seems crazy to me. It's the other way around. :-) The kernel gets a new feature and burncd catches up with it. Bye, Alexander. -- Intel: where Quality is job number 0.9998782345! http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 21 11:54:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from postfix2-2.free.fr (postfix2-2.free.fr [213.228.0.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD7B37B400 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:54:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from titine.fr.eu.org (toulouse-1-a7-33-27.dial.proxad.net [62.147.33.27]) by postfix2-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4460F5F8C3 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:54:21 +0100 (CET) Received: by titine.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 23F263142; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:46:43 +0100 (CET) X-Attribution: Jaco To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: burncd, dao, atapi oh my References: <20020321184612.GA24268@xmission.com> From: Eric Jacoboni Date: 21 Mar 2002 20:46:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20020321184612.GA24268@xmission.com> Message-ID: <87zo11hffh.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> Lines: 43 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Jason" == Jason Hill writes: Jason> A couple off topic questions... Jason> 1. Why doesn't FreeBSD support ATAPI/CAM layer (as Net/OpenBSD Jason> appear to) so that I could use cdrecord instead of burncd? I hope this layer will be part of core system, one day. In the meantime, you could download the atapicam patch (plus a patch for {STABLE|CURRENT} kernel config) from http://www.cuivre.fr.eu.org/~thomas/atapicam/> I'm using it on -STABLE and cdrecord runs fine, now : /----------------- | /kernel: cd0 at atapi1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 | /kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device | /kernel: cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers | /kernel: cd1 at atapi1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 | /kernel: cd1: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device | /kernel: cd1: 3.300MB/s transfers | | $ sudo cdrecord -scanbus | Cdrecord 1.10 (i386-unknown-freebsd4.5) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling | Using libscg version 'schily-0.5' | scsibus0: | 0,0,0 0) 'ATAPI ' 'CD-ROM 52X ' '172A' Removable CD-ROM | 0,1,0 1) 'PLEXTOR ' 'CD-R PX-W1210A' '1.07' Removable CD-ROM | 0,2,0 2) * | 0,3,0 3) * | 0,4,0 4) * | 0,5,0 5) * | 0,6,0 6) * | 0,7,0 7) * \----------------- You may also download the cdrecord for ATAPI version that Soren has announced few days ago (ftp://freebsd.dk/pub/ATA/cdrtools-1.10-ATA.tgz>). I've not tried it as i prefer to have a cam layer to choose myself the tools i may use. -- Éric Jacoboni, né il y a 1320179546 secondes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 21 14: 9:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mgr2.xmission.com (mgr2.xmission.com [198.60.22.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF1937B41A for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 14:09:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [198.60.22.22] (helo=mail.xmission.com) by mgr2.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 16oAkp-0004DS-00; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:09:51 -0700 Received: from shell.xmission.com ([198.60.22.20] helo=xmission.xmission.com) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 16oAkp-00017o-00; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:09:51 -0700 Received: from jch by xmission.xmission.com with local (Exim 3.16 #3) id 16oAko-0003JM-00; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:09:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:09:50 -0700 From: Jason Hill To: =?unknown-8bit?Q?S=F8ren?= Schmidt Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: burncd, dao, atapi oh my Message-ID: <20020321220950.GA10561@xmission.com> References: <20020321184612.GA24268@xmission.com> <200203211853.g2LIrHT12969@freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200203211853.g2LIrHT12969@freebsd.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wow, thanks for the great responses from you (and Alex, Eric). I guess I'll cvsup to -stable. Thanks again. This is a perfect example of why the FreeBSD mailing lists are such as great resource. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 21 23: 5:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from web12208.mail.yahoo.com (web12208.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64C4637B41C for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 23:05:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020322070522.19953.qmail@web12208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.170.164.210] by web12208.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 23:05:22 PST Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 23:05:22 -0800 (PST) From: Alex Teslik Reply-To: teslik@yahoo.com Subject: Free hardware for FreeBSD developers To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Cc: reynolds@cs.duke.edu, chris@unm.dorm.net, quickcam-drivers@crynwr.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a box of fun multimedia stuff that I was going to sell on Ebay, but the items aren't going for much. I would rather see a FreeBSD developer get them and make more cool stuff for everyone who uses FreeBSD. Everything is fully functional. Here is the list: 1 Iomega Buz with PCI card. The breakout box has in/out jacks for Svideo, Stereo RCA audio, and composite RCA video. The capture card it comes with uses the Zoran chipset to capture. The card also has integrated Ultra SCSI with 50pin centronics outside and ribbon inside. I was using it to drive my hard drives for a little while before I got a dedicated SCSI card. 1 Logitech QuickcamPro. This is the white ball quickcam with parallel port attachment and power from the keyboard plug (old style fat plug, or new ps/2 supported - I have the adapter). I used this camera once for about 10 minutes. I was going to video conference with my family from Europe. HA! I've seen too many movies. 1 Logitech QuickcamVC. This is the same thing like above, but black. Internally its different according to the documentation I've seen around. I tried in vain to find drivers to get these two cameras working for a long time. Logitech won't release the info, so they are reverse-engineering projects for the most part as far as I know. There has already been some headway made though - http://www.crynwr.com/qcpc/, so its not a start from scratch. 2 ISA D-link DE-220P 10Base-T ethernet cards. Well...they work. If you want any of this stuff email me at . I'm willing to ship them just about anywhere, but would appreciate if you pay shipping. I live in California. I'll will pay shipping if you can show evidence that you are likely to develop the requested item to the benefit of the user base (you have Experience and/or Knowledge) or your name is Jordan Hubbard. Thanks, Alex __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 22 5:15:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mel-rto1.wanadoo.fr (smtp-out-1.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE8737B404 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 05:15:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mel-rta8.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.79) by mel-rto1.wanadoo.fr; 22 Mar 2002 14:15:35 +0100 Received: from chx-labs.org (193.251.63.14) by mel-rta8.wanadoo.fr; 22 Mar 2002 14:15:22 +0100 Message-ID: <3C9B2D5D.3040900@chx-labs.org> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 14:10:53 +0100 From: XFred User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20020123 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: VIA82C686 chipset on recent laptops Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I guess you may have already received news about this chipset ... I purchased recently a Compaq presario laptop, of course running FreeBSD 4.5 . After a proper configuration an build of the kernel including the pcm device, I experience a problem with the sound driver provided in the distribution (snd_via82c686.ko) : The driver is sucessfuly loaded, the devices are functional, but the output sound is very low (mixer output set to the max) and really fuzzy. I asked VIA tech. for the newest chipset specs or a diff with the currently avaible on alsa project page. I still have no answer from them. If you need more info, I would be pleased to help. Anyway, I searched the FreeBSD website for a tutorial on programming kernel modules, if you have such a doc already would you send me the link please ? Thanks, XFred@chx-labs.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 23 3:52:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 40F0B37B419 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 03:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5908 invoked by uid 0); 23 Mar 2002 11:52:26 -0000 Received: from pd950a5a3.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO gmx.net) (217.80.165.163) by mail.gmx.net (mp008-rz3) with SMTP; 23 Mar 2002 11:52:26 -0000 Message-ID: <3C9C6C7F.3030601@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 12:52:31 +0100 From: Michael Nottebrock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020310 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Xine Troubles Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to watch DVDs with xine, but i get lots of frameskipping, accompanied en masse by messages like these: video_out : throwing away image with pts 10578000 because it's too old (diff : 2092 > 1800). video_out : throwing away image with pts 10617600 because it's too old (diff : 8177 > 1800). video_out : throwing away image with pts 10621200 because it's too old (diff : 4577 > 1800). video_out : throwing away image with pts 10671600 because it's too old (diff : 10379 > 1800). video_out : throwing away image with pts 10675200 because it's too old (diff : 6779 > 1800). I first thought it might be an a/v-sync problem, but -A null produces the same behaviour. I tweaked the sysctl values as described in the documentation of xine, the machine is an AMD Athlon TB 1400 with lots of memory running -CURRENT (with WITNESS and INVARIANTS turned off) and XFree-4.2.0, which is seemingly quite idle while xine is running. This is really frustrating, because ogle and vlc are sooooo slow and xine just seems to stumble over it's own feet here. :) Any suggestions? -- Michael Nottebrock To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 23 9:18:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DFD837B417 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 09:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29679 invoked by uid 0); 23 Mar 2002 17:18:35 -0000 Received: from pd950a5a3.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO gmx.net) (217.80.165.163) by mail.gmx.net (mp006-rz3) with SMTP; 23 Mar 2002 17:18:35 -0000 Message-ID: <3C9CB8F0.6070603@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:18:40 +0100 From: Michael Nottebrock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020310 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Long Cc: freebsd-multimedia Subject: Re: Xine Troubles References: <3C9C6C7F.3030601@gmx.net> <20020323165003.GA13458@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Scott Long wrote: > Assuming that you have an ATAPI DVD-ROM, make sure that it is running > in UDMA mode. IIRC, FreeBSD defaults to putting them in PIO mode, > which might explain this problem. Also, make sure that the XVideo > extension is enabled and in use. It is running in UDMA-Mode (I set the tunable in loader.conf) and XVideo is working. -- Michael Nottebrock To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 23 9:44: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BCB337B41A for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 09:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15432 invoked by uid 0); 23 Mar 2002 17:44:01 -0000 Received: from pd950a5a3.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO gmx.net) (217.80.165.163) by mail.gmx.net (mp002-rz3) with SMTP; 23 Mar 2002 17:44:01 -0000 Message-ID: <3C9CBEE9.2060307@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:44:09 +0100 From: Michael Nottebrock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020310 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Long Cc: freebsd-multimedia Subject: Re: Xine Troubles References: <3C9C6C7F.3030601@gmx.net> <20020323165003.GA13458@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> <3C9CB8F0.6070603@gmx.net> <20020323172458.GB13458@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Scott Long wrote: > Check with atacontrol to be sure. Other than that, I don't have many > ideas. Is this on 4.X, or on 5-current? If it's the latter, make sure > that INVARIANTS and WITNESS are removed from the kernel. kiste# dmesg | grep acd0 && atacontrol mode 0 acd0: DVD-ROM at ata0-master UDMA33 Master = UDMA33 Slave = UDMA66 No WITNESS & INVARIANTS, like I wrote in the first place. > Xine has suffered from this problem from the beginning. It follows the > simple process of reading a chunk of data from the disc, decoding and > displaying, then reading the next chunk. It really needs to be reading > the data in the background, and not force the decoder to sleep at the > end of each block. Our threads implementation is not well suited for > this task, so the solution is to create two processes that share the > stream data in SHM, like some of the other players do. Makes sense. So, the suggestion would be "if it doesn't work, look for a different player"? Well, is there any different player that is up to speed? It seems like almost everything else is very much libdvdread & friends-based and is performing quite poorly. I'd buy DivX-Videos if that were possible, but ... :) -- Michael Nottebrock To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 23 11:21:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from square.cnd.mcgill.ca (square.CND.McGill.CA [132.206.114.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B2337B41C for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 11:21:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mat@localhost) by square.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA36806; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 14:21:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mat) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 14:21:30 -0500 From: Mathew Kanner To: Michael Nottebrock Cc: freebsd-multimedia Subject: Re: Xine Troubles Message-ID: <20020323142130.N20990@cnd.mcgill.ca> References: <3C9C6C7F.3030601@gmx.net> <20020323165003.GA13458@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> <3C9CB8F0.6070603@gmx.net> <20020323172458.GB13458@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> <3C9CBEE9.2060307@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: Michael Nottebrock's message [Re: Xine Troubles] as of Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 06:44:09PM +0100 Organization: I speak for myself, operating in Montreal, CANADA Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mar 23, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > Makes sense. So, the suggestion would be "if it doesn't work, look for a > different player"? Well, is there any different player that is up to > speed? It seems like almost everything else is very much libdvdread & > friends-based and is performing quite poorly. I'd buy DivX-Videos if > that were possible, but ... :) > I haven't played a DVD in quite a while but I know for sure that it's possible. Your orignal problems (pts difference) might stem from the way the vob file is put together. You really should try another player (like mplayer). I would suggest decrypting/copying the file to disk and see if it helps. --Mat -- Brain: Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? Pinky: I think so Brain, but pants with horizontal stripes make me look chubby. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message