From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 26 10:39:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC46016A4CE for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 10:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from util.inch.com (shellutil.inch.com [216.223.208.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAA343D41 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 10:39:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gcoon@inch.com) Received: from kod.inch.com (kod.inch.com [216.223.192.68]) i4QHdV4K078769 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 13:39:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gcoon@inch.com) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 13:39:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Gerald To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040526131846.T73581@kod.inch.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: New Dell 2650 notes from the field? X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 17:39:46 -0000 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2386.10-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs I'm setting up FreeBSD on a few dual Xeon Dell 2650s to be deployed soon. I can make do with a single proc until FreeBSD has more mature SMP ability. I'm actually going to roll it out as a 4.8 box and upgrade to 4.9 in the future. (When something necessitates it.) I recently posted to -stable about a Compaq that had random lockups that had to be power cycled to unhang it. Disabling SMP finally resolved the problem, so I'm very leery of SMP in FreeBSD for the time being. The machine would run fine under no load and even make it 24-72 hours under heavy load before freezing. Does anyone have any pointers about FreeBSD + or - SMP on these Poweredge 2650's under a decent load? I saw one post where someone installed 5.1 on a 2650 (Stefan in 6/2003), but I don't know what kind of load he was putting on that machine or if it was a development box that could crash occasionally and not hurt anything. The one I'm deploying needs to be more stable than than a dev box. I would prefer not to drop a Linux distro in to our server mix just for what this customer wants this server for unless I have to. TIA, Gerald From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 26 11:37:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E9516A4CE for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 11:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EAA43D45 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 11:37:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 3000) id 83FE011864; Wed, 26 May 2004 20:36:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 20:36:45 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Gerald Message-ID: <20040526183645.GA763@arthur.nitro.dk> References: <20040526131846.T73581@kod.inch.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040526131846.T73581@kod.inch.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Dell 2650 notes from the field? X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 18:37:09 -0000 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2004.05.26 13:39:21 -0400, Gerald wrote: > I'm setting up FreeBSD on a few dual Xeon Dell 2650s to be deployed soon. > I can make do with a single proc until FreeBSD has more mature SMP > ability. I'm actually going to roll it out as a 4.8 box and upgrade to 4.9 I have been using FreeBSD SMP for several years and it has been working just fine. > Does anyone have any pointers about FreeBSD + or - SMP on these > Poweredge 2650's under a decent load? I saw one post where someone Why don't you just test them and simulate some heavy load? I have used a few of those for the last couple of months and they have worked without any problems, but they have been under "light-medium" load. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAtOO9h9pcDSc1mlERAtRdAJ9lSTVg44dBlHMQBlq0aZR9sQ9saQCcCLMV 5fKJf/qZGdqf/UtkrY58jx0= =jnLG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 26 11:39:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAC016A4CE for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 11:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rms04.rommon.net (rms04.rommon.net [212.54.2.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3188343D4C for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 11:39:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pete@he.iki.fi) Received: from he.iki.fi (hbb.vuokselantie10.fi [193.64.42.187]) by rms04.rommon.net (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i4QIdZ3v044691; Wed, 26 May 2004 21:39:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from pete@he.iki.fi) Message-ID: <40B4E467.60306@he.iki.fi> Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 21:39:35 +0300 From: Petri Helenius User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerald References: <20040526131846.T73581@kod.inch.com> In-Reply-To: <20040526131846.T73581@kod.inch.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Dell 2650 notes from the field? X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 18:39:43 -0000 Gerald wrote: >CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2386.10-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 >Features=0xbfebfbffCMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE> > Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs > >I'm setting up FreeBSD on a few dual Xeon Dell 2650s to be deployed soon. > > At least the 1U ones (1750?) run fine with 5.2.1. Pete From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 26 11:49:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7938B16A4CF for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 11:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmx5.freemail.hu (fmx5.freemail.hu [195.228.242.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52F8943D1D for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 11:49:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gannater@freemail.hu) Received: (qmail 98413 invoked from network); 26 May 2004 20:48:51 +0200 Received: from fm1.freemail.hu (195.228.242.201) by fmx5.freemail.hu with SMTP; 26 May 2004 20:48:51 +0200 Received: (qmail 99540 invoked by uid 3644897); 26 May 2004 20:48:51 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 20:48:51 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Gannater_J=E1nos?= To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.182.50.59] X-HTTP-User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040206 Firefox/0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Subject: Hyper-threading X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 18:49:14 -0000 Hi, I installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 on my new Intel Pentium 4 based computer, which has Hyper-threading support. Although I enabled Hyper-threading in the BIOS and compiled the kernel with SMP it looks like it's not working. The dmesg says it has only one CPU and it is #1. In the 4.9 kernel I can see an option for Hyper-threading but I can't see it in the 5.2.1 release. What should I do to make this service work and how can I test it? Thx. From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 26 11:54:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F242916A4CE for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 11:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heathers.stdio.com (heathers.stdio.com [199.89.192.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1352343D2F for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 11:54:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kyle@openworldinc.com) Received: from localhost (kyle@localhost) by heathers.stdio.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i4QIrMk58959; Wed, 26 May 2004 14:53:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kyle@openworldinc.com) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 14:53:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Kyle McPeek X-X-Sender: kyle@heathers.stdio.com To: Gerald In-Reply-To: <20040526131846.T73581@kod.inch.com> Message-ID: <20040526144041.W14613-100000@heathers.stdio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Dell 2650 notes from the field? X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 18:54:39 -0000 Hi, I am running 4.8-STABLE from Feb 20 on a dual 2.2GHz Dell 2650 with 2GB of memory. This machine is a production PostgreSQL server that maintains 100+ connections. I have enabled Hyperthreading and SMP. CPU: Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 2.20GHz (2192.90-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf24 Stepping = 4 Features=0x3febfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 2147418112 (2097088K bytes) avail memory = 2088140800 (2039200K bytes) It's current uptime is 95 days and the previous down time was due to maintainence. It has had double digit load averages (20-30) in the last 95 days. The machine just runs. The SCSI raid controller works very well and I have replaced drives before with no loss of uptime or functionality. You should have no problems running FreeBSD on this machine. kyle. On Wed, 26 May 2004, Gerald wrote: > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2386.10-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 > Features=0xbfebfbff CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE> > Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs > > I'm setting up FreeBSD on a few dual Xeon Dell 2650s to be deployed soon. > I can make do with a single proc until FreeBSD has more mature SMP > ability. I'm actually going to roll it out as a 4.8 box and upgrade to 4.9 > in the future. (When something necessitates it.) I recently posted to > -stable about a Compaq that had random lockups that had to be power cycled > to unhang it. Disabling SMP finally resolved the problem, so I'm very > leery of SMP in FreeBSD for the time being. The machine would run fine > under no load and even make it 24-72 hours under heavy load before > freezing. > > Does anyone have any pointers about FreeBSD + or - SMP on these > Poweredge 2650's under a decent load? I saw one post where someone > installed 5.1 on a 2650 (Stefan in 6/2003), but I don't know what kind of > load he was putting on that machine or if it was a development box that > could crash occasionally and not hurt anything. The one I'm deploying > needs to be more stable than than a dev box. > > I would prefer not to drop a Linux distro in to our server mix just for > what this customer wants this server for unless I have to. > > TIA, > > Gerald > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-smp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-smp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-smp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 26 12:39:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B233C16A4CE for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 12:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmx4.freemail.hu (fmx4.freemail.hu [195.228.242.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B68FC43D41 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 12:39:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gannater@freemail.hu) Received: (qmail 95680 invoked from network); 26 May 2004 21:39:08 +0200 Received: from fm12.freemail.hu (HELO fm13.freemail.hu) (195.228.242.212) by fmx4.freemail.hu with SMTP; 26 May 2004 21:39:08 +0200 Received: (qmail 69261 invoked by uid 3644897); 26 May 2004 21:39:07 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 21:39:07 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Gannater_J=E1nos?= To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.182.48.27] X-HTTP-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Subject: Hyper-threading X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 19:39:16 -0000 Hi, I installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 on my new Intel Pentium 4 based computer, which has Hyper-threading support. Although I enabled Hyper-threading in the BIOS and compiled the kernel with SMP and APIC_IO and it looks like it's not working. The dmesg says it has only one CPU and it is #1. In the 4.9 kernel I can see an option for Hyper-threading but I can't see it in the 5.2.1 release. What should I do to make this service work and how can I test it? Thx. From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 26 12:54:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFE316A4CE for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 12:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mikea.ath.cx (wsip-68-15-203-64.ok.ok.cox.net [68.15.203.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987FB43D46 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 12:54:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikea@mikea.ath.cx) Received: from mikea.ath.cx (bsd [192.168.1.1]) by mikea.ath.cx (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i4QJsMA7000569 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 14:54:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mikea@mikea.ath.cx) Received: (from mikea@localhost) by mikea.ath.cx (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id i4QJsM6V000568 for freebsd-smp@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 May 2004 14:54:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mikea) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 14:54:22 -0500 From: mikea To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040526145422.A455@mikea.ath.cx> References: <20040526131846.T73581@kod.inch.com> <20040526183645.GA763@arthur.nitro.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20040526183645.GA763@arthur.nitro.dk>; from simon@freebsd.org on Wed, May 26, 2004 at 08:36:45PM +0200 Subject: Re: New Dell 2650 notes from the field? X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 19:54:45 -0000 On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 08:36:45PM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > On 2004.05.26 13:39:21 -0400, Gerald wrote: > > > I'm setting up FreeBSD on a few dual Xeon Dell 2650s to be deployed soon. > > I can make do with a single proc until FreeBSD has more mature SMP > > ability. I'm actually going to roll it out as a 4.8 box and upgrade to 4.9 > > I have been using FreeBSD SMP for several years and it has been working > just fine. > > > Does anyone have any pointers about FreeBSD + or - SMP on these > > Poweredge 2650's under a decent load? I saw one post where someone > > Why don't you just test them and simulate some heavy load? > > I have used a few of those for the last couple of months and they have > worked without any problems, but they have been under "light-medium" > load. My canonical test is to do a "make -j 12" for a kernel. I've never had one lock up yet, but it does make 'em hum pretty good. If your Dell locks up on that, you can pretty much expect it to lock up under other heavy loads. There may be some synthetic loads that let you dial in the degree of CPU busy, concurrency, etc., that you want; I don't do enough of this to be aware of them. Please keep us aware of any problems you encounter. -- Mike Andrews mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 26 14:09:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E552A16A4CE for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 14:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.freebsdsystems.com (mx1.FreeBSDsystems.COM [69.90.68.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AF943D49 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 14:09:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@FreeBSDsystems.COM) Received: (qmail 20402 invoked by uid 3011); 26 May 2004 21:09:14 -0000 Received: from lnb@FreeBSDsystems.COM by mx1.freebsdsystems.com by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (clamscan: 0.54. f-prot: 3.12/. Clear:RC:1(216.235.9.82):. Processed in 0.80441 secs); 26 May 2004 21:09:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.5?) 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Processed in 0.60451 secs); 26 May 2004 20:27:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx2.freebsd.org) (216.136.204.119) by mx1.freebsdsystems.com with SMTP; 26 May 2004 20:27:10 -0000 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F157656A67; Wed, 26 May 2004 13:26:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BEDE16A4D7; Wed, 26 May 2004 13:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B233C16A4CE for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 12:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmx4.freemail.hu (fmx4.freemail.hu [195.228.242.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B68FC43D41 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 12:39:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gannater@freemail.hu) Received: (qmail 95680 invoked from network); 26 May 2004 21:39:08 +0200 Received: from fm12.freemail.hu (HELO fm13.freemail.hu) (195.228.242.212) by fmx4.freemail.hu with SMTP; 26 May 2004 21:39:08 +0200 Received: (qmail 69261 invoked by uid 3644897); 26 May 2004 21:39:07 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 21:39:07 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Gannater_J=E1nos?= To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.182.48.27] X-HTTP-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Subject: Hyper-threading X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 on my new Intel Pentium 4 based computer, which has Hyper-threading support. Although I enabled Hyper-threading in the BIOS and compiled the kernel with SMP and APIC_IO and it looks like it's not working. The dmesg says it has only one CPU and it is #1. In the 4.9 kernel I can see an option for Hyper-threading but I can't see it in the 5.2.1 release. What should I do to make this service work and how can I test it? Thx. _______________________________________________ freebsd-smp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-smp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-smp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=-l2hJR2qnXX3lNEKd5aFN-- From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 26 15:31:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B3216A4CE for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 15:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from util.inch.com (shellutil.inch.com [216.223.208.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5983643D48 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 15:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gcoon@inch.com) Received: from kod.inch.com (kod.inch.com [216.223.192.68]) i4QMVI2k067878; Wed, 26 May 2004 18:31:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gcoon@inch.com) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 18:31:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Gerald To: Kyle McPeek In-Reply-To: <20040526144041.W14613-100000@heathers.stdio.com> Message-ID: <20040526182348.R73581@kod.inch.com> References: <20040526144041.W14613-100000@heathers.stdio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Dell 2650 notes from the field? X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 22:31:48 -0000 On Wed, 26 May 2004, Kyle McPeek wrote: > I am running 4.8-STABLE from Feb 20 on a dual 2.2GHz Dell 2650 with 2GB > of memory. This machine is a production PostgreSQL server that maintains > 100+ connections. I have enabled Hyperthreading and SMP. This is exactly what I was hoping to hear. Kyle what are your plans or thoughts on moving to 4.9 or higher currently? Any tests so far on that box or another 2650 with 4.9 up & SMP? In answer to Simon's E-mail, I don't currently have the time to just test it and see if it breaks. By the time we have all of the software configured and up ready to load test a setback will put us back another week in reinstalling everything. Never mind that on the recent Compaq that had trouble (running 4.8 with SMP) it would take 48 to 72 hours for the problem to show up. I don't have a spare 2 weeks to just try. I also don't want to make a bad impression with this large account for any reason. Thanks for the feedback, Gerald From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 26 20:32:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2AAF16A4CE for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 20:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heathers.stdio.com (heathers.stdio.com [199.89.192.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F44743D3F for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 20:32:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kyle@openworldinc.com) Received: from localhost (kyle@localhost) by heathers.stdio.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i4R3WBS31820; Wed, 26 May 2004 23:32:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kyle@openworldinc.com) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 23:32:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Kyle McPeek X-X-Sender: kyle@heathers.stdio.com To: Gerald In-Reply-To: <20040526182348.R73581@kod.inch.com> Message-ID: <20040526231115.L14613-100000@heathers.stdio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Dell 2650 notes from the field? X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 03:32:38 -0000 If I were setting up the machine now I would start with 4.9. Then let it run 'make -j x buildworld' in a loop for 24-48 hours, over a weekend if possible. Let x be 8-12. If you are running a raid subsystem then pull a drive out during that time an put it back. The card should rebuild the array. I have replaced two drives so far and not lost any uptime or had any problems. In short, install something then try to break it by beating on it as much as possible for a few days. kyle. On Wed, 26 May 2004, Gerald wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2004, Kyle McPeek wrote: > > > I am running 4.8-STABLE from Feb 20 on a dual 2.2GHz Dell 2650 with 2GB > > of memory. This machine is a production PostgreSQL server that maintains > > 100+ connections. I have enabled Hyperthreading and SMP. > > This is exactly what I was hoping to hear. Kyle what are your plans or > thoughts on moving to 4.9 or higher currently? Any tests so far on that > box or another 2650 with 4.9 up & SMP? > > In answer to Simon's E-mail, I don't currently have the time to just test > it and see if it breaks. By the time we have all of the software > configured and up ready to load test a setback will put us back another > week in reinstalling everything. Never mind that on the recent Compaq that > had trouble (running 4.8 with SMP) it would take 48 to 72 hours for the > problem to show up. I don't have a spare 2 weeks to just try. I also don't > want to make a bad impression with this large account for any reason. > > Thanks for the feedback, > > Gerald > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-smp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-smp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-smp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 27 02:29:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E81716A4CE for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 02:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4114343D2F for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 02:29:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mayday@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 13822 invoked by uid 65534); 27 May 2004 09:29:08 -0000 Received: from p508A9640.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO 192.168.0.4) (80.138.150.64) by mail.gmx.net (mp017) with SMTP; 27 May 2004 11:29:08 +0200 X-Authenticated: #431110 From: Benjamin Sobotta To: Gannater =?iso-8859-1?q?J=E1nos?= Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:32:06 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200405271132.06375.mayday@gmx.net> cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hyper-threading X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 09:29:54 -0000 Hi! Try "sysctl hw.ncpu" to see how many CPUs you have. I think both should be= =20 working since you found #1. The other one should be #0. Cheers! BEN On Wednesday 26 May 2004 18:48, Gannater J=E1nos wrote: > Hi, > > I installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 on my new Intel Pentium 4 based > computer, which has Hyper-threading support. > Although I enabled Hyper-threading in the BIOS and compiled > the kernel with SMP it looks like it's not working. > The dmesg says it has only one CPU and it is #1. > In the 4.9 kernel I can see an option for Hyper-threading > but I can't see it in the 5.2.1 release. > What should I do to make this service work and how can I > test it? > > Thx. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-smp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-smp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-smp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 27 03:16:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BEC416A4CE for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 03:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from multiplay.co.uk (www1.multiplay.co.uk [212.42.16.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A8E43D1D for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 03:16:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from steven ([193.123.241.40]) by multiplay.co.uk (multiplay.co.uk [212.42.16.7]) (MDaemon.PRO.v7.1.0.R) with ESMTP id md50000241627.msg for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 11:01:07 +0100 Message-ID: <08f401c443d2$16c6b190$7b07000a@int.mediasurface.com> From: "Steven Hartland" To: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Gannater_J=E1nos?= , References: Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:05:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Spam-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Thu, 27 May 2004 11:01:07 +0100 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 193.123.241.40 X-Return-Path: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Thu, 27 May 2004 11:01:11 +0100 Subject: Re: Hyper-threading X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:16:34 -0000 IIRC you dont see an explicit start for CPU #0 as its the one running the boot sequence :) You can use systat, top -S, ps -aux or sysctl to check for the number of processors. look for the number of idle processes in the first three and for either kern.smp.cpus or hw.ncpu the sysctl. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gannater János" To: Sent: 26 May 2004 20:39 Subject: Hyper-threading > Hi, > > I installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 on my new Intel Pentium 4 based > computer, which has Hyper-threading support. > Although I enabled Hyper-threading in the BIOS and compiled > the kernel with SMP and APIC_IO and it looks like it's not working. > The dmesg says it has only one CPU and it is #1. > In the 4.9 kernel I can see an option for Hyper-threading > but I can't see it in the 5.2.1 release. > What should I do to make this service work and how can I > test it? ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. 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From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 27 07:30:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2183516A4CE for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 07:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mps5.plala.or.jp (c148240.vh.plala.or.jp [210.150.148.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C2543D31 for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 07:30:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e-kamo@trio.plala.or.jp) Received: from msvc1.plala.or.jp ([172.23.8.209]) by mps5.plala.or.jp with SMTP id <20040527142845.FPMU11036.mps5.plala.or.jp@msvc1.plala.or.jp> for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 23:28:45 +0900 Received: ( 28748 invoked from network); 27 May 2004 23:28:45 +0900 X-SVCK: Received: from unknown (HELO mpb1.plala.or.jp) (172.23.8.16) by msvc1 with SMTP; 27 May 2004 23:28:44 +0900 Received: from trio.plala.or.jp ([219.25.148.126]) by mpb1.plala.or.jp with ESMTP id <20040527142843.KEDW19716.mpb1.plala.or.jp@trio.plala.or.jp> for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 23:28:43 +0900 Message-ID: <40B5FC44.4060107@trio.plala.or.jp> Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 23:33:40 +0900 From: Eitarou Kamo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; ja-JP; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.8.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: SMP of 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:30:12 -0000 Hi staff, I'm now downloading 4.10-RELEASE. I noticed a some things. Does the SMP of 4.10 have something new? Is it the same with the one of 5.2.1? Where can I get the info or status it? Thanks in advance. Eitarou -- *********************** Eitarou Kamo Tel. +81 75 7035997 Fax +81 75 7035997 VoIP 050 10585997(domestic only) e$B!>(Bmail e-kamo@trio.plala.or.jp For business: Feel free to mail me(above), please. Donation http://www.PayPal.Com GPG FingerPrint: 032D FDF9 D27B 23F7 9A81 BF4C 626C FBAA BC3A 9895 ************************************************************************ From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 27 08:17:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390A416A4CE for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 08:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail4.speakeasy.net (mail4.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B6643D41 for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 08:17:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 9990 invoked from network); 27 May 2004 15:16:31 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 27 May 2004 15:16:31 -0000 Received: from 10.50.40.205 (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i4RFGL8k021451; Thu, 27 May 2004 11:16:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:17:00 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <40B5FC44.4060107@trio.plala.or.jp> In-Reply-To: <40B5FC44.4060107@trio.plala.or.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200405271117.00553.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx cc: Eitarou Kamo Subject: Re: SMP of 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 15:17:28 -0000 On Thursday 27 May 2004 10:33 am, Eitarou Kamo wrote: > Hi staff, > > I'm now downloading 4.10-RELEASE. I noticed a some things. > > Does the SMP of 4.10 have something new? No, not really. > Is it the same with the one of 5.2.1? No, it's basically the same as 4.9. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 27 08:28:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A658D16A4D2 for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 08:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mps4.plala.or.jp (c147240.vh.plala.or.jp [210.150.147.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3AE43D2D for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 08:28:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e-kamo@trio.plala.or.jp) Received: from msvc2.plala.or.jp ([172.23.8.210]) by mps4.plala.or.jp with SMTP id <20040527152642.KOLH15693.mps4.plala.or.jp@msvc2.plala.or.jp> for ; Fri, 28 May 2004 00:26:42 +0900 Received: ( 1686 invoked from network); 28 May 2004 00:26:41 +0900 X-SVCK: Received: from unknown (HELO mpb1.plala.or.jp) (172.23.8.16) by msvc2 with SMTP; 28 May 2004 00:26:41 +0900 Received: from trio.plala.or.jp ([219.25.148.126]) by mpb1.plala.or.jp with ESMTP id <20040527152640.KFOH19716.mpb1.plala.or.jp@trio.plala.or.jp> for ; Fri, 28 May 2004 00:26:40 +0900 Message-ID: <40B609D4.5030108@trio.plala.or.jp> Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 00:31:32 +0900 From: Eitarou Kamo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; ja-JP; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org References: <40B5FC44.4060107@trio.plala.or.jp> <200405271117.00553.jhb@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200405271117.00553.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.8.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SMP of 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 15:28:36 -0000 Hi, John Baldwin wrote: >On Thursday 27 May 2004 10:33 am, Eitarou Kamo wrote: > > >>Hi staff, >> >>I'm now downloading 4.10-RELEASE. I noticed a some things. >> >>Does the SMP of 4.10 have something new? >> >> > >No, not really. > > > >>Is it the same with the one of 5.2.1? >> >> > >No, it's basically the same as 4.9. > > > Is the SMP of 5.2.1 stable? I would like to use on dual CPU machine. Which do you recommend 4.9 one or 5.2.1 one, now? Eitarou -- *********************** Eitarou Kamo Tel. +81 75 7035997 Fax +81 75 7035997 VoIP 050 10585997(domestic only) e$B!>(Bmail e-kamo@trio.plala.or.jp For business: Feel free to mail me(above), please. Donation http://www.PayPal.Com GPG FingerPrint: 032D FDF9 D27B 23F7 9A81 BF4C 626C FBAA BC3A 9895 ************************************************************************ From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 27 08:56:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F85116A4CF for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 08:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mpb3.plala.or.jp (c154240.vh.plala.or.jp [210.150.154.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397E543D49 for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 08:56:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e-kamo@trio.plala.or.jp) Received: from msvc2.plala.or.jp ([172.23.8.210]) by mpb3.plala.or.jp with SMTP id <20040527155551.QLFI23232.mpb3.plala.or.jp@msvc2.plala.or.jp> for ; Fri, 28 May 2004 00:55:51 +0900 Received: ( 9157 invoked from network); 28 May 2004 00:55:50 +0900 X-SVCK: Received: from unknown (HELO mpb1.plala.or.jp) (172.23.8.16) by msvc2 with SMTP; 28 May 2004 00:55:50 +0900 Received: from trio.plala.or.jp ([219.25.148.126]) by mpb1.plala.or.jp with ESMTP id <20040527155549.KGCI19716.mpb1.plala.or.jp@trio.plala.or.jp>; Fri, 28 May 2004 00:55:49 +0900 Message-ID: <40B610A8.1030203@trio.plala.or.jp> Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 01:00:40 +0900 From: Eitarou Kamo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; ja-JP; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven Hartland , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org References: <40B5FC44.4060107@trio.plala.or.jp><200405271117.00553.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <40B609D4.5030108@trio.plala.or.jp> <0b9401c44400$f8dbf530$7b07000a@int.mediasurface.com> In-Reply-To: <0b9401c44400$f8dbf530$7b07000a@int.mediasurface.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.8.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SMP of 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 15:56:18 -0000 Hi, Steven Hartland wrote: >We use 5.2.1 SMP on all our new production level servers >and have not had any problems. Infact it runs better and >is the only version that runs on some of the newer hardware. > > Steve > > Sounds good! BTW, is 5.2.1 SMP faster than 4.X one? Eitarou -- *********************** Eitarou Kamo Tel. +81 75 7035997 Fax +81 75 7035997 VoIP 050 10585997(domestic only) e$B!>(Bmail e-kamo@trio.plala.or.jp For business: Feel free to mail me(above), please. Donation http://www.PayPal.Com GPG FingerPrint: 032D FDF9 D27B 23F7 9A81 BF4C 626C FBAA BC3A 9895 ************************************************************************ From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 27 08:58:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627D016A4CE for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 08:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from multiplay.co.uk (www1.multiplay.co.uk [212.42.16.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B387B43D4C for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 08:58:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from steven ([193.123.241.40]) by multiplay.co.uk (multiplay.co.uk [212.42.16.7]) (MDaemon.PRO.v7.1.0.R) with ESMTP id md50000242658.msg for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 16:36:39 +0100 Message-ID: <0b9401c44400$f8dbf530$7b07000a@int.mediasurface.com> From: "Steven Hartland" To: "Eitarou Kamo" , References: <40B5FC44.4060107@trio.plala.or.jp><200405271117.00553.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <40B609D4.5030108@trio.plala.or.jp> Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 16:40:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Spam-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Thu, 27 May 2004 16:36:39 +0100 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 193.123.241.40 X-Return-Path: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org X-MDAV-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Thu, 27 May 2004 16:36:44 +0100 Subject: Re: SMP of 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 15:58:56 -0000 We use 5.2.1 SMP on all our new production level servers and have not had any problems. Infact it runs better and is the only version that runs on some of the newer hardware. Steve ----- Original Message ----- > > I would like to use on dual CPU machine. > Which do you recommend 4.9 one or 5.2.1 one, now? ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk. From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 27 11:10:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB5516A4CE for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 11:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmx6.freemail.hu (fmx6.freemail.hu [195.228.242.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F29843D1F for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gannater@freemail.hu) Received: (qmail 57981 invoked from network); 27 May 2004 20:07:06 +0200 Received: from fm6.freemail.hu (195.228.242.206) by fmx6.freemail.hu with SMTP; 27 May 2004 20:07:06 +0200 Received: (qmail 84346 invoked by uid 3644897); 27 May 2004 20:07:06 +0200 Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:07:06 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Gannater_J=E1nos?= To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <08f401c443d2$16c6b190$7b07000a@int.mediasurface.com> Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.182.142.183] X-HTTP-User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040206 Firefox/0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Subject: Re: Hyper-threading X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 18:10:19 -0000 Hi, Thank you for all the answers. I am a newbie to this question. I usually test the processors with the top utility but on FreeBSD I can't see seperate lines for each CPU. Like on linux there there is a seperate line for each cpu and it's usage in the upper screen of top. How can I do this on FreeBSD? Should I install top from ports? Why isn't this default like in Linux systems?=20 Thx. > IIRC you dont see an explicit start for CPU #0 as its the one > running the boot sequence :) > You can use systat, top -S, ps -aux or sysctl to check for the > number of processors. look for the number of idle processes > in the first three and for either kern.smp.cpus or hw.ncpu > the sysctl. >=20 > Steve > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Gannater J=E1nos" > To: > Sent: 26 May 2004 20:39 > Subject: Hyper-threading >=20 >=20 > > Hi, > > > > I installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 on my new Intel Pentium 4 based > > computer, which has Hyper-threading support. > > Although I enabled Hyper-threading in the BIOS and compiled > > the kernel with SMP and APIC_IO and it looks like it's not working. > > The dmesg says it has only one CPU and it is #1. > > In the 4.9 kernel I can see an option for Hyper-threading > > but I can't see it in the 5.2.1 release. > > What should I do to make this service work and how can I > > test it? >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it.=20 >=20 > In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 > or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-smp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-smp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-smp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 27 11:39:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB6D16A4CE for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 11:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ztxmail05.ztx.compaq.com (ztxmail05.ztx.compaq.com [161.114.1.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD7243D31 for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 11:39:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john.cagle@hp.com) Received: from cceexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net (cceexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net [16.81.1.28]) by ztxmail05.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80769F2; Thu, 27 May 2004 13:39:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cceexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net ([16.81.1.19]) by cceexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Thu, 27 May 2004 13:39:04 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:39:02 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Hyper-threading Thread-Index: AcREFfDnxUAujd3HSgSMLPNYkee1jgAAuQ8Q From: "Cagle, John (ISS-Houston)" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gannater_J=E1nos?= X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2004 18:39:04.0640 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2FE3C00:01C44419] cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Hyper-threading X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 18:40:00 -0000 > From: Gannater J=E1nos >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Thank you for all the answers. I am a newbie to this question. > I usually test the processors with the top utility but on > FreeBSD I can't see seperate lines for each CPU. Like on > linux there there is a seperate line for each cpu and it's > usage in the upper screen of top. How can I do this on > FreeBSD? Should I install top from ports? Why isn't this > default like in Linux systems?=20 >=20 > Thx. The FreeBSD version of 'top' will show a column titled "C". The C column only appears if you have multiple processors. The value is the processor number (0,1,2,3, etc.) that is running the current process. Regards, John ----------------------------- John Cagle john.cagle@hp.com HP Distinguished Technologist ProLiant Software Development Hewlett-Packard Company From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 27 18:43:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86D416A4CE for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 18:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santiago.pacific.net.sg (santiago.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CE5643D31 for ; Thu, 27 May 2004 18:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 8579 invoked from network); 28 May 2004 01:42:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell6.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.212) by santiago with SMTP; 28 May 2004 01:42:48 -0000 Received: from pacific.net.sg ([210.24.202.26]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20040528014248.VXXY1186.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@pacific.net.sg>; Fri, 28 May 2004 09:42:48 +0800 Message-ID: <40B69910.1080601@pacific.net.sg> Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:42:40 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040409 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eitarou Kamo References: <40B5FC44.4060107@trio.plala.or.jp><200405271117.00553.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <40B609D4.5030108@trio.plala.or.jp> <0b9401c44400$f8dbf530$7b07000a@int.mediasurface.com> <40B610A8.1030203@trio.plala.or.jp> In-Reply-To: <40B610A8.1030203@trio.plala.or.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org cc: Steven Hartland Subject: Re: SMP of 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 01:43:46 -0000 Hi, Eitarou Kamo wrote: > Hi, > > Steven Hartland wrote: > > >>We use 5.2.1 SMP on all our new production level servers >>and have not had any problems. Infact it runs better and >>is the only version that runs on some of the newer hardware. >> >> Steve >> >> > > Sounds good! BTW, is 5.2.1 SMP faster than 4.X one? > 5.2 has two options for the scheduler. Sometimes it is faster, sometimes it is slower. There have been several threads in this list dealing with it. I use 5.2 without any problems. Erich