From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 19 07:31:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DAC16A403 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gurdiga@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A6913C4C9 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gurdiga@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so925193nfc for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:31:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=a2jYtmvoeSYYCi/mjC+3Bn8+Fk4aYhYD9giw1j4DIwKFd9p/N3FH4zuDEEqHEKOTGA3YYocsrg0v+4Vs/1UP9d6MnjPz/Bnt5DPorRHTjeOd0Bq6ebzuipdTXVa8Kpu7VChRH+yTu43GvI2f+OHaU8hLBhu1PA5OckynsyMt6SY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qW/7znWwnV9hKNpAJBYpeq+XQDm8AcPSN0M9lhvU0VRDRzq3OLK8W0dfnX8QFJjCd9EkFXQUI4bX9PiXM6z6s+8zQ2vwC+QPObSfcxWaQWg2myW1lMyJfTgROeRvCCWTMxEN/JCTJi+r1f514dVwMpOs/XDdCXjgJiWFjSu51Qs= Received: by 10.78.136.9 with SMTP id j9mr2224521hud.1174289501429; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.32.19 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:31:41 +0200 From: "Vlad GURDIGA" To: x11@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_99370_3580201.1174289501362" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: RV370 [ATI Sapphire X550 Silent]: (EE) No devices detected. X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:31:43 -0000 ------=_Part_99370_3580201.1174289501362 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I've recently changed my motherboard from Intel D955XBK to Intel DP965LT and after this Xorg stopped working, although before this it worked fine. It throws an error saying that "No devices detected" with a huge amount of output before. I've attached Xorg.0.log, dmesg output, kldstat output, uname -a output, pciconf -lvc output and xorg.conf. World and Xorg port are up to date. My video card is a PCIE Asus ATI Radeon X550. I would be very grateful if you would give me a hint about what should I try. Thanks a lot. ------=_Part_99370_3580201.1174289501362-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 19 11:08:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5283E16A401 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A0613C4F0 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2JB8mwu055643 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:08:48 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l2JB8kNW055637 for freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:08:46 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:08:46 GMT Message-Id: <200703191108.l2JB8kNW055637@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: linimon set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:08:48 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o ports/92071 x11 Problem with Xorg and SIS630/730 integrated video card f ports/92672 x11 X.org 6.9.0 brak down sync mga_hal dirver on G550'sDVI o ports/93071 x11 x11-servers/xorg-server: Resume fails on system with X f ports/93777 x11 Starting xorg-server requires reloading sound module o ports/97084 x11 Xorg 6.9.0 Locks Up Keyboard and Mouse o ports/97367 x11 vlc and gmplayer crash with X error o ports/104885 x11 Hangs when logging out of X11 terminals o ports/106370 x11 Screen corruption when using Direct Rendering on a PCI 8 problems total. Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s ports/73743 x11 XOrg/XFree xauth add/startx problem s ports/85132 x11 XOrg 6.8.2 won't start on Toshiba Satellite 1800-554 e s ports/87528 x11 Missing koi8-r encoding for xorg-fonts-encodings port o ports/93667 x11 x11/xorg-libraries: undefined symbol in libOSMesa.* is o ports/94167 x11 [patch] x11/xorg-clients: install xdm/Xstartup and /Xr o ports/94331 x11 x11/xorg: advocating for DRI support for Radeons o ports/96436 x11 [patch] x11/xorg-clients: logging on xdm with pam_krb o i386/99645 x11 Xorg savage driver causes display to hang at unload o ports/109497 x11 x11-servers/xorg-fontserver rc.d/xfs.sh script missing 9 problems total. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 20 06:06:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: x11@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFA716A401 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F6F13C468 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (qmail 15114 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2007 05:39:40 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com ([216.254.65.224]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 20 Mar 2007 05:39:39 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan [127.0.0.1]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2K5dcau030728 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:39:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2K5dbqg030727 for x11@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:39:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com) From: Mikhail Teterin To: x11@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:39:36 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7whJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" Cc: Subject: Is Vodoo3 supposed to work and have DRI? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:06:21 -0000 Hello! I have the following (old) card: none1@pci1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x1137121a chip=0x0005121a rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = '3dfx Interactive Inc' device = 'Voodoo3 All Voodoo3 chips, 3000' class = display subclass = VGA I expected it to "just work" with the tdfx driver, and even built the kernel with: device agp device tdfx Unfortunately, there is still nothing in `grep drm /var/run/dmesg.boot' and X-server tells me: (EE) TDFX(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed, disabling DRI. Is this card supposed to work (dri included)? What am I doing wrong? Thanks! -mi From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 20 06:35:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: x11@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E656416A401 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Kristen.Glynn@virginblue.com.au) Received: from mail62.messagelabs.com (mail62.messagelabs.com [203.166.119.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5092913C458 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Kristen.Glynn@virginblue.com.au) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: Kristen.Glynn@virginblue.com.au X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-62.messagelabs.com!1174370919!25440142!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7.1; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [203.202.21.160] Received: (qmail 19576 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2007 06:08:39 -0000 Received: from mail.virginblue.com.au (HELO mail.virginblue.com.au) (203.202.21.160) by server-9.tower-62.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2007 06:08:39 -0000 Received: from DJQHOCMX01.virginblue.internal (djqhonmx01.virginblue.internal [192.168.63.1]) by mail.virginblue.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2EE3D4018; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:08:39 +1000 (EST) Received: from ISKCMX01.virginblue.internal ([192.168.60.72]) by DJQHOCMX01.virginblue.internal with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:09:40 +1000 X-MessageTextProcessor: DisclaimIt (2.50.252) [Virgin Blue Airlines Pty Limited, AU] Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:09:40 +1000 Message-ID: <7C3101310BBC894E8A0D5FB2C36B95893456FE@ISKCMX01.virginblue.internal> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Is Vodoo3 supposed to work and have DRI? thread-index: AcdqthJuwrnNKZCrR36hMKmz9RVV8gAADPqA Importance: normal From: "Kris Glynn" Priority: normal To: "Mikhail Teterin" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2007 06:09:40.0362 (UTC) FILETIME=[586F26A0:01C76AB6] Cc: Subject: RE: Is Vodoo3 supposed to work and have DRI? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:35:22 -0000 I could be wrong, but I think you need to compile the following into kernel. device drm # DRM core module required by DRM drivers Cheers Kris=20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Mikhail Teterin Sent: Tuesday, 20 March 2007 3:40 PM To: x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Is Vodoo3 supposed to work and have DRI? Hello! I have the following (old) card: none1@pci1:0:0: class=3D0x030000 card=3D0x1137121a chip=3D0x0005121a = rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D '3dfx Interactive Inc' device =3D 'Voodoo3 All Voodoo3 chips, 3000' class =3D display subclass =3D VGA I expected it to "just work" with the tdfx driver, and even built the kernel with: device agp device tdfx Unfortunately, there is still nothing in `grep drm /var/run/dmesg.boot' and X-server tells me: (EE) TDFX(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed, disabling DRI. Is this card supposed to work (dri included)? What am I doing wrong? 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:13:12 -0000 On Tuesday 20 March 2007 02:09, Kris Glynn wrote: = I could be wrong, but I think you need to compile the following into = kernel. = = device          drm             # DRM core module required by DRM Thanks for the pointer, Kris! I just kldload-ed `drm', but nothing changed :-( There is still no /dev/3dfx* and X-server still says: [drm] failed to load kernel module "tdfx" (EE) TDFX(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed, disabling DRI. (I'm not sure, why it tries to load the module, since the functionality is linked into kernel directly.) But DRI is not working anyway... -mi From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 20 16:30:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A58D16A4F0 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D73613C4BC for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l2KGFPOr087768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:15:26 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <460008BE.3090705@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:15:58 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikhail Teterin References: <7C3101310BBC894E8A0D5FB2C36B95893456FE@ISKCMX01.virginblue.internal> <200703201113.05547@aldan> In-Reply-To: <200703201113.05547@aldan> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Kris Glynn , x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is Vodoo3 supposed to work and have DRI? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:30:34 -0000 Mikhail Teterin wrote: > On Tuesday 20 March 2007 02:09, Kris Glynn wrote: > = I could be wrong, but I think you need to compile the following into > = kernel. > = > = device drm # DRM core module required by DRM > > Thanks for the pointer, Kris! I just kldload-ed `drm', but nothing > changed :-( There is still no /dev/3dfx* and X-server still says: > > [drm] failed to load kernel module "tdfx" > (EE) TDFX(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed, disabling DRI. > > (I'm not sure, why it tries to load the module, since the functionality is > linked into kernel directly.) > > But DRI is not working anyway... > I'm in no way an expert here but [drm] failed to load kernel module "tdfx" means X is trying to load the tdfx.ko module to enable dri and failing. man tdfx says: " Note that this driver does not currently have support for the Voodoo Banshee, Voodoo3, Voodoo5, or Voodoo6 based cards. It also does not currently support the Voodoo Rush." So i think the answer to your question is no. Vince > -mi > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 20 16:54:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EB016A400 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D36713C483 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:54:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l2KGs5qD088302 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:54:06 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <460011CF.8090501@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:54:39 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: x11@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: DRI and i945GM problems in xorg 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:54:42 -0000 Hi, I thought I'd try out the upcoming xorg a bit early and have installed xorg 7.2 from the git repository. All seems good and openbox and xfce4 run happily as do all my normal apps. Because of this I thought I'd give beryl a whirl even though i've see a few issues with it come up on here about the intel i810 driver and beryl. My issue seems to be different though. I started beryl from .xinitrc with a content of: xterm & beryl In the hope this would be simple enough that it wouldnt cause problems and I could then start anything else i needed (panels etc) from the xterm. What actually happened was that X started and then beryl started, I never actually saw the xterm. Once in X/beryl the cube seemed to be there and I could rotate it via the mouse or via the keyboard but i couldnt actually start any programs. This seemed relatively positive though so I ctl-alt-backspace out of Xwindows and got the following error. error: [drm:pid1254:drm_close] *ERROR* can't find authenticator After this trying to start X gives: (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found (EE) I810(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel and trying to start beryl once X has started gives the traditional white screens (ie software rendering as far as i can tell.) Rebooting and restarting X removes these errors, I then tried starting beryl-manager from vanilla X and an xterminal, and got beryl up with an xterminal on screen. However the keyboard didnt seem to respond until i middle clicked (to see the pretty cube rotate ;) at which point all of my typing seemed to happen at once. This was replicateable. I tried starting up xfce4-panel but this never seemed to initialise, Killing off beryl worked and didnt cause the dri error and let the xfce4-panel start but of course beryl is still unusable. I dont suppose that anyone has come across this and found a solution? I'm running todays 7-CURRENT, and uptodate with ports from git as of this morning. I'm loading agp as a module and letting X load the drm.ko and i915.ko for drm. regards, Vince From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 20 17:30:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56A416A402 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamk@voicenet.com) Received: from b.mx.visualtech.com (imap.visualtech.com [208.16.19.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8772213C458 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamk@voicenet.com) Received: from [10.1.3.8] (maat.visualtech.com [208.16.19.254]) by b.mx.visualtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBFE4844F; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:05:54 -0500 (EST) From: Adam K Kirchhoff To: Vince In-Reply-To: <460011CF.8090501@unsane.co.uk> References: <460011CF.8090501@unsane.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:06:11 -0400 Message-Id: <1174410371.20402.4.camel@memory> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DRI and i945GM problems in xorg 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:30:33 -0000 On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 16:54 +0000, Vince wrote: > Hi, > I thought I'd try out the upcoming xorg a bit early and have installed > xorg 7.2 from the git repository. All seems good and openbox and xfce4 > run happily as do all my normal apps. Because of this I thought I'd give > beryl a whirl even though i've see a few issues with it come up on here > about the intel i810 driver and beryl. My issue seems to be different > though. I started beryl from .xinitrc with a content of: > xterm & > beryl > > In the hope this would be simple enough that it wouldnt cause problems > and I could then start anything else i needed (panels etc) from the xterm. > What actually happened was that X started and then beryl started, I > never actually saw the xterm. Once in X/beryl the cube seemed to be > there and I could rotate it via the mouse or via the keyboard but i > couldnt actually start any programs. This seemed relatively positive > though so I ctl-alt-backspace out of Xwindows and got the following error. > error: [drm:pid1254:drm_close] *ERROR* can't find authenticator > After this trying to start X gives: > (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found > (EE) I810(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. > (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable > MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support > XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack > of shared memory support in the kernel FYI, AIGLX is still broken on Radeon and Intel cards (Radeons hang when starting up X, and Intel chips hang when shutting down X). Hopefully these will be fixed before Xorg 7.2 is rolled into the ports. As for your other issues, hopefully someone else will have an idea :-) Adam From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 20 21:13:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B594316A402 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418D713C465 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-10-135.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.10.135]:64702 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HTlPI-0003vJ-4E for x11@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:58:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 30609 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2007 21:58:08 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with SMTP; 20 Mar 2007 21:58:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 24264 invoked by uid 1001); 20 Mar 2007 21:58:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:58:08 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Vince Message-ID: <20070320205808.GA24161@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Vince , Mikhail Teterin , Kris Glynn , x11@freebsd.org References: <7C3101310BBC894E8A0D5FB2C36B95893456FE@ISKCMX01.virginblue.internal> <200703201113.05547@aldan> <460008BE.3090705@unsane.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <460008BE.3090705@unsane.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1HTlPI-0003vJ-4E. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1HTlPI-0003vJ-4E cad28fca4f3afaf51c9f297e183d9ac5 Cc: Kris Glynn , x11@freebsd.org, Mikhail Teterin Subject: Re: Is Vodoo3 supposed to work and have DRI? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:13:27 -0000 On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 04:15:58PM +0000, Vince wrote: > Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > On Tuesday 20 March 2007 02:09, Kris Glynn wrote: > > = I could be wrong, but I think you need to compile the following into > > = kernel. > > = > > = device drm # DRM core module required by DRM > > > > Thanks for the pointer, Kris! I just kldload-ed `drm', but nothing > > changed :-( There is still no /dev/3dfx* and X-server still says: > > > > [drm] failed to load kernel module "tdfx" > > (EE) TDFX(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed, disabling DRI. > > > > (I'm not sure, why it tries to load the module, since the functionality is > > linked into kernel directly.) > > > > But DRI is not working anyway... > > > I'm in no way an expert here but > [drm] failed to load kernel module "tdfx" > means X is trying to load the tdfx.ko module to enable dri and failing. > man tdfx says: > " Note that this driver does not currently have support for the Voodoo > Banshee, Voodoo3, Voodoo5, or Voodoo6 based cards. It also does not > currently support the Voodoo Rush." > So i think the answer to your question is no. Looking through the /sys/i386/conf/NOTES file reveals the following: # 3Dfx Voodoo Graphics, Voodoo II /dev/3dfx CDEV support. This will create # the /dev/3dfx0 device to work with glide implementations. This should get # linked to /dev/3dfx and /dev/voodoo. Note that this is not the same as # the tdfx DRI module from XFree86 and is completely unrelated. # # To enable Linuxulator support, one must also include COMPAT_LINUX in the # config as well, or you will not have the dependencies. The other option # is to load both as modules. device tdfx # Enable 3Dfx Voodoo support options TDFX_LINUX # Enable Linuxulator support [...} # Direct Rendering modules for 3D acceleration. device drm # DRM core module required by DRM drivers device i915drm # Intel i830 through i915 device mach64drm # ATI Rage Pro, Rage Mobility P/M, Rage XL device mgadrm # AGP Matrox G200, G400, G450, G550 device r128drm # ATI Rage 128 device radeondrm # ATI Radeon device savagedrm # S3 Savage3D, Savage4 device sisdrm # SiS 300/305, 540, 630 device tdfxdrm # 3dfx Voodoo 3/4/5 and Banshee options DRM_DEBUG # Include debug printfs (slow) I.e. 'device tdfx' seems to be for Voodoo II cards. For Voodoo 3/4/5 you would want device drm device tdfxdrm and likely device agp in the kernel config. Then you need to configure X.org properly as well. Reading the xorg.conf(5) and tdfx(4x) manpages is probably useful. (Not that the tdfx(4x) manpage is not the same as the tdfx(4) manpage.) (I have never used any of the Voodoo cards so all of the above is just from reading the documentation and may or may not work in practice.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 21 10:02:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A735416A402 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fenner+portsurvey@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F78E13C4B9 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fenner+portsurvey@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2LA2ZSR077171 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:02:35 GMT (envelope-from fenner+portsurvey@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l2LA2ZRo077170; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:02:35 GMT (envelope-from fenner+portsurvey) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:02:35 GMT Message-Id: <200703211002.l2LA2ZRo077170@freefall.freebsd.org> From: fenner@freebsd.org (Bill "distfiles" Fenner) To: x11@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD ports: 1 unfetchable distfile: x11-servers/xorg-server-snap X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ports@freebsd.org List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:02:35 -0000 Dear x11@freebsd.org, You are listed as the FreeBSD port maintainer for 1 port whose distfiles are not fetchable from their MASTER_SITES. Could you please visit http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/x11@freebsd.org.html and correct the problems listed there? The individual port with a problem is x11-servers/xorg-server-snap. If you have already corrected the problems and submitted a PR, please accept my thanks and apologies for the delay in getting the fixes into the tree. This reminder is created automatically and does not (yet) have a way to know if a PR fixing the problem has been submitted. Please do *NOT* send your response to me directly; I do not necessarily have time to commit your fix; please instead submit a PR via 'send-pr' so it doesn't get lost. Problems are usually of two types: 1. The software package has been upgraded and the version in the port has been removed. The best solution to this problem is to upgrade the port to the most current version of the software package. If you are a FreeBSD committer, then you can just upgrade the port directly. If not, you should create the updated port on your own machine, test it (and maybe even run "portlint" on it), and then use "send-pr" to submit a "diff -uNr old-port updated-port". If you added or deleted any files, please make an explicit note of it. 2. The mirror site being used no longer contains the software package in question, or no longer exists. Solutions include: a) If there are other mirror sites, just remove the bad site from the list. (Make sure that what appears to be a bad site isn't actually a problem of type 1, upgrade) b) If the README or other support files in the software documentation mention where to get the software package, use one of those sites. c) Use a search engine to find another place to get the original DISTFILES. Make sure that you don't pick a FreeBSD distfiles mirror -- if you can't find any other places where the file exists, it can be a LOCAL_PORT or you can simply comment out the MASTER_SITES= line, with a comment explaining why. Once you have a solution, use "send-pr" to submit a "diff -u" of the Makefile. Note that this isn't an urgent issue, as people who try to build the port now will just fall back to the FreeBSD distfiles mirror. Please just put it on your list to do and get to it when you have time. These messages will continue to arrive twice a month until the fix is committed, as a reminder. Thanks, Bill "distfiles" Fenner. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 21 19:31:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9B916A407 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@jabbe.de) Received: from mo-p00-fb.rzone.de (mo-p00-fb.rzone.de [81.169.146.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F0913C459 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@jabbe.de) Received: from mo-p00-ob.rzone.de (klopstock-mo-p00-ob.mail [192.168.63.66]) by gibbsson-fb-02.store (RZmta 5.1) with ESMTP id 204d5fj2LAI82g for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:00:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from medea.jabbe.local (80-218-184-161.dclient.hispeed.ch [80.218.184.161]) by post.webmailer.de (klopstock mo21) (RZmta 5.2) with ESMTP id 9004e0j2LHbW6Y ; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:59:12 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <4601807E.2010508@jabbe.de> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:59:10 +0100 From: Rainer Goellner Organization: Arctopile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070314 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org References: 460011CF.8090501@unsane.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RZG-AUTH: kNfFqrrHZgqrr50gpXaqV79cxwas8uDOvXpHlKm4x8T7Hw8InjTMozk6DFj6Bw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Subject: Re: DRI and i945GM problems in xorg 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:31:14 -0000 > FYI, AIGLX is still broken on Radeon and Intel cards ... > > Hopefully these will be fixed before Xorg 7.2 is rolled into the ports. > Looking at that the other way round -: You really mean we'll have to wait _forever_? I was wondering why the team missed the chance to commit when gettext was upgraded, or at least with the new GNOME! Hopefully, Rainer From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 21 20:27:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D3416A418 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B07D13C4BB for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 48734738; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:07:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:07:50 -0500 To: Rainer Goellner Message-ID: <20070321200750.GA2979@soaustin.net> References: <4601807E.2010508@jabbe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4601807E.2010508@jabbe.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DRI and i945GM problems in xorg 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:27:21 -0000 On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 07:59:10PM +0100, Rainer Goellner wrote: > Looking at that the other way round -: You really > mean we'll have to wait _forever_? There is still a lot of work going on behind the scenes to make sure that every possible failure case has been addressed. Comments like this one don't make their job any more fun. mcl From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 22 07:40:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC8816A46D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@jabbe.de) Received: from smtp.hispeed.ch (mxout.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E7513C4AD for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@jabbe.de) Received: from [192.168.1.16] (80-218-184-161.dclient.hispeed.ch [80.218.184.161]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.hispeed.ch (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/taifun-1.0) with ESMTP id l2M7KveI026633 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:20:57 +0100 Message-ID: <46022E59.7030407@jabbe.de> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:20:57 +0100 From: Rainer Goellner Organization: Arctopile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070309) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.7, clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on smtp-05.tornado.cablecom.ch X-Virus-Status: Clean X-DCC-spamcheck-02.tornado.cablecom.ch-Metrics: smtp-05.tornado.cablecom.ch 1378; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Subject: What can I do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rgoellner@gmx.de List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:40:56 -0000 Hi there, As Mark Linimon told me in response to my grumbling post of yesterday, there's just one person left active at the moment. So I'd like be a little bit more constructive this time: Is there any _limited_ area I can help to get that xorg thing into the ports tree in the conceivable future? What I have now is a working release 6.2 system, built around march 7, with xorg related ports from the git tree and X11BASE set to LOCALBASE. The hardware probably is kind of archaic, just an Athlon XP system and, yes, that _is_ special, a Matrox G550 connected to a real CRT. Sorry, didn't even try to get 3D working so far. Any hints what I can help? I understand C/C++, am used to poke around in the system code (but not to using the debugger) and do have an idea how ports work, but didn't dig into the xorg sources very deep so far. And sorry for my grumbling; it just seemed so naturally to me to commit at last 'cause everything was working seemed flawless to me - so it really was more of an encouragement ;-) Rainer From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 22 12:16:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F279916A54A for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:16:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from flz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from postfix2-g20.free.fr (postfix2-g20.free.fr [212.27.60.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A29A13C458 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:16:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from flz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by postfix2-g20.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F356CA378E for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:50:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.xbsd.org (unknown [82.233.2.192]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4C05A157; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:50:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.xbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.xbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091E511984; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:50:04 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at xbsd.org Received: from smtp.xbsd.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv1.xbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RyMozVyubKjv; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:49:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from [193.95.134.156] (mayday.esat.net [193.95.134.156]) by smtp.xbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61B711982; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:49:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <46026D62.4010009@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:49:54 +0000 From: Florent Thoumie User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rgoellner@gmx.de References: <46022E59.7030407@jabbe.de> In-Reply-To: <46022E59.7030407@jabbe.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBDB0BD07470BCBBA5DC83753" Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What can I do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:16:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBDB0BD07470BCBBA5DC83753 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer Goellner wrote: > Hi there, >=20 > As Mark Linimon told me in response to my grumbling > post of yesterday, there's just one person left > active at the moment. So I'd like be a little bit > more constructive this time: Is there any _limited_ > area I can help to get that xorg thing into the > ports tree in the conceivable future? Probably not (explanation follows). > What I have now is a working release 6.2 system, > built around march 7, with xorg related ports from > the git tree and X11BASE set to LOCALBASE. The > hardware probably is kind of archaic, just an > Athlon XP system and, yes, that _is_ special, a > Matrox G550 connected to a real CRT. Sorry, didn't > even try to get 3D working so far. 7th of march? Do you realise some people including me are using the git tree since october? :-) Which also means I have to merge upstream (regular ports tree) changes into xorg branch almost everyday so that people can have current xorg ports *and* freebsd ports at the same time. It's working for you without major breakage only because you're using 500 ports out of 16000+ (like I do, like almost everybody does). Still some ports are breaking with the new xorg, or because of the prefix merge. We're working on those ports. Have a look at [1] or [2] to get regular updates on xorg work. Believe me, I for one want to see everything going upstream as soon as possible (I think I said that already). > Any hints what I can help? I understand C/C++, am > used to poke around in the system code (but not to > using the debugger) and do have an idea how ports > work, but didn't dig into the xorg sources very > deep so far. As you can see on [3], we're still committing fixes. We usually fix those ports by ourselves (miwi, lesi and myself) but occasionally forward them to maintainers when we can't figure out what's wrong or when it requires non-trivial fix. When we fixed all ports broken in a single experimental pointyhat build, a new one is scheduled and then we get new errorlogs, ... > And sorry for my grumbling; it just seemed so > naturally to me to commit at last 'cause everything > was working seemed flawless to me - so it really was > more of an encouragement ;-) No offense taken. You're not the first one to say that you'd like xorg 7.2 in ports now. [1] http://planet.freebsdish.org/ [2] http://blog.xbsd.org/ [3] http://git.xbsd.org/?p=3Dfreebsd/ports.git;a=3Dshortlog;h=3Dxorg --=20 Florent Thoumie flz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD Committer --------------enigBDB0BD07470BCBBA5DC83753 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGAm1nMxEkbVFH3PQRClsYAJ9wReOz76Vnc4lIFEJM/2ii/WswxQCfb61p OVETD6ErGajCe861jd7xGls= =BeVs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBDB0BD07470BCBBA5DC83753-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 22 12:35:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CC116A51D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamk@voicenet.com) Received: from b.mx.visualtech.com (a.imap.visualtech.com [208.16.19.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2862C13C4C4 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamk@voicenet.com) Received: from [10.1.3.8] (firewall.visualtech.com [208.16.19.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by b.mx.visualtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5170E483B6 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:34:46 -0500 (EST) From: Adam K Kirchhoff To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:34:55 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <46022E59.7030407@jabbe.de> <46026D62.4010009@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <46026D62.4010009@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703220834.55575.adamk@voicenet.com> Subject: Re: What can I do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:35:00 -0000 On Thursday 22 March 2007 07:49, Florent Thoumie wrote: > Rainer Goellner wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > As Mark Linimon told me in response to my grumbling > > post of yesterday, there's just one person left > > active at the moment. So I'd like be a little bit > > more constructive this time: Is there any _limited_ > > area I can help to get that xorg thing into the > > ports tree in the conceivable future? > > Probably not (explanation follows). > > > What I have now is a working release 6.2 system, > > built around march 7, with xorg related ports from > > the git tree and X11BASE set to LOCALBASE. The > > hardware probably is kind of archaic, just an > > Athlon XP system and, yes, that _is_ special, a > > Matrox G550 connected to a real CRT. Sorry, didn't > > even try to get 3D working so far. > > 7th of march? Do you realise some people including me are using the git > tree since october? :-) Which also means I have to merge upstream > (regular ports tree) changes into xorg branch almost everyday so that > people can have current xorg ports *and* freebsd ports at the same time. > > It's working for you without major breakage only because you're using > 500 ports out of 16000+ (like I do, like almost everybody does). Still > some ports are breaking with the new xorg, or because of the prefix > merge. We're working on those ports. Have a look at [1] or [2] to get > regular updates on xorg work. > > Believe me, I for one want to see everything going upstream as soon as > possible (I think I said that already). > > > Any hints what I can help? I understand C/C++, am > > used to poke around in the system code (but not to > > using the debugger) and do have an idea how ports > > work, but didn't dig into the xorg sources very > > deep so far. > > As you can see on [3], we're still committing fixes. We usually fix > those ports by ourselves (miwi, lesi and myself) but occasionally > forward them to maintainers when we can't figure out what's wrong or > when it requires non-trivial fix. When we fixed all ports broken in a > single experimental pointyhat build, a new one is scheduled and then we > get new errorlogs, ... > > > And sorry for my grumbling; it just seemed so > > naturally to me to commit at last 'cause everything > > was working seemed flawless to me - so it really was > > more of an encouragement ;-) > > No offense taken. You're not the first one to say that you'd like xorg > 7.2 in ports now. > > [1] http://planet.freebsdish.org/ > [2] http://blog.xbsd.org/ > [3] http://git.xbsd.org/?p=freebsd/ports.git;a=shortlog;h=xorg I'm glad to see that there are people working on fixing ports that break due to the move to modular and the change to X11BASE, but I'm curious if anyone is actively working on fixing the bugs actually present in Xorg 7.2 on FreeBSD (ie. AIGLX, ATI pcigart support, etc.)? Adam From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 22 12:54:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3A916A479 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from flz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEA513C480 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from flz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.xbsd.org (unknown [82.233.2.192]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466C85A15A; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:54:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.xbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.xbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0443411C1C; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:54:16 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at xbsd.org Received: from smtp.xbsd.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv1.xbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PJwpjy6C+G0d; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:54:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [193.95.134.156] (mayday.esat.net [193.95.134.156]) by smtp.xbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEAD119F6; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:54:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <46027C6B.7060707@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:54:03 +0000 From: Florent Thoumie User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam K Kirchhoff References: <46022E59.7030407@jabbe.de> <46026D62.4010009@FreeBSD.org> <200703220834.55575.adamk@voicenet.com> In-Reply-To: <200703220834.55575.adamk@voicenet.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig04F1042167901F29090F036D" Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What can I do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:54:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig04F1042167901F29090F036D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > I'm glad to see that there are people working on fixing ports that brea= k due=20 > to the move to modular and the change to X11BASE, but I'm curious if an= yone=20 > is actively working on fixing the bugs actually present in Xorg 7.2 on = > FreeBSD (ie. AIGLX, ATI pcigart support, etc.)? I am not. I have no idea what the problems are, or how to solve them. Just so we're clear, it won't stop X.org 7.2 happening in ports :-) --=20 Florent Thoumie flz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD Committer --------------enig04F1042167901F29090F036D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGAnxzMxEkbVFH3PQRCgVlAJ0dDrxZn9JwhUipwPXIommKGoEsYwCeOg+U fdDQYPYQjlgHAAtVXUaMteM= =7fBL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig04F1042167901F29090F036D-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 22 13:06:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4365E16A405 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamk@voicenet.com) Received: from b.mx.visualtech.com (imap.visualtech.com [208.16.19.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBC213C48C for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:06:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamk@voicenet.com) Received: from [10.1.3.93] (maat.visualtech.com [208.16.19.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by b.mx.visualtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40FB483B6; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:06:16 -0500 (EST) From: Adam K Kirchhoff To: Florent Thoumie Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:06:25 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <46022E59.7030407@jabbe.de> <200703220834.55575.adamk@voicenet.com> <46027C6B.7060707@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <46027C6B.7060707@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703220906.25702.adamk@voicenet.com> Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What can I do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:06:29 -0000 On Thursday 22 March 2007 08:54, Florent Thoumie wrote: > Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > > I'm glad to see that there are people working on fixing ports that break > > due to the move to modular and the change to X11BASE, but I'm curious if > > anyone is actively working on fixing the bugs actually present in Xorg > > 7.2 on FreeBSD (ie. AIGLX, ATI pcigart support, etc.)? > > I am not. I have no idea what the problems are, or how to solve them. > Just so we're clear, it won't stop X.org 7.2 happening in ports :-) So it's going to be rolled out even though one of the great new and improved features of 7.2 is broken on FreeBSD? :-) Well, it's not my decision to make, but it seems like a bad decision to me. Adam From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 22 13:43:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FBDC16A401 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:43:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from flz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B34C13C46C for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:43:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from flz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.xbsd.org (unknown [82.233.2.192]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F0A5A122; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:43:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.xbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.xbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EDC11C0B; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:43:26 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at xbsd.org Received: from smtp.xbsd.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv1.xbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gpZtOLHogybI; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:43:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [193.95.134.156] (mayday.esat.net [193.95.134.156]) by smtp.xbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47552117C5; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:43:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <460287F0.9060904@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:43:12 +0000 From: Florent Thoumie User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam K Kirchhoff References: <46022E59.7030407@jabbe.de> <200703220834.55575.adamk@voicenet.com> <46027C6B.7060707@FreeBSD.org> <200703220906.25702.adamk@voicenet.com> In-Reply-To: <200703220906.25702.adamk@voicenet.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigEF2F5A217E4036ACC560F681" Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What can I do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:43:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigEF2F5A217E4036ACC560F681 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > On Thursday 22 March 2007 08:54, Florent Thoumie wrote: >> Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: >>> I'm glad to see that there are people working on fixing ports that br= eak >>> due to the move to modular and the change to X11BASE, but I'm curious= if >>> anyone is actively working on fixing the bugs actually present in Xor= g >>> 7.2 on FreeBSD (ie. AIGLX, ATI pcigart support, etc.)? >> I am not. I have no idea what the problems are, or how to solve them. >> Just so we're clear, it won't stop X.org 7.2 happening in ports :-) >=20 > So it's going to be rolled out even though one of the great new and imp= roved=20 > features of 7.2 is broken on FreeBSD? :-) >=20 > Well, it's not my decision to make, but it seems like a bad decision to= me. Too bad you're not the one to decide then :-) Feel free to clone my git repo and maintain xorg out of the tree until this is resolved. Cause once we fixed all broken ports, if it's not going in, don't ask me to do anymore work on Xorg. I think I had my share (and a fair one). --=20 Florent Thoumie flz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD Committer --------------enigEF2F5A217E4036ACC560F681 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGAof1MxEkbVFH3PQRCqRVAJ9fQHjZDlvMylvKNvWppJ213N3TIQCeP7kW OAboYMJrI094FbTSXOHFy5c= =hLqL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigEF2F5A217E4036ACC560F681-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 22 13:48:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4556416A401; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamk@voicenet.com) Received: from b.mx.visualtech.com (a.smtp.visualtech.com [208.16.19.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB9013C458; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamk@voicenet.com) Received: from [10.1.3.8] (firewall.visualtech.com [208.16.19.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by b.mx.visualtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0C7483B9; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:48:22 -0500 (EST) From: Adam K Kirchhoff To: Florent Thoumie Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:48:31 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <46022E59.7030407@jabbe.de> <200703220906.25702.adamk@voicenet.com> <460287F0.9060904@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <460287F0.9060904@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703220948.31826.adamk@voicenet.com> Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What can I do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:48:36 -0000 On Thursday 22 March 2007 09:43, Florent Thoumie wrote: > Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > > On Thursday 22 March 2007 08:54, Florent Thoumie wrote: > >> Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > >>> I'm glad to see that there are people working on fixing ports that > >>> break due to the move to modular and the change to X11BASE, but I'm > >>> curious if anyone is actively working on fixing the bugs actually > >>> present in Xorg 7.2 on FreeBSD (ie. AIGLX, ATI pcigart support, etc.)? > >> > >> I am not. I have no idea what the problems are, or how to solve them. > >> Just so we're clear, it won't stop X.org 7.2 happening in ports :-) > > > > So it's going to be rolled out even though one of the great new and > > improved features of 7.2 is broken on FreeBSD? :-) > > > > Well, it's not my decision to make, but it seems like a bad decision to > > me. > > Too bad you're not the one to decide then :-) > > Feel free to clone my git repo and maintain xorg out of the tree until > this is resolved. Cause once we fixed all broken ports, if it's not > going in, don't ask me to do anymore work on Xorg. I think I had my > share (and a fair one). Please understand that I am very appreciative of all the work you guys are doing. It's been a major undertaking, and you've gone a hell of a job. It's just sad, for me, to see that the only way to get a stable 3D desktop in FreeBSD currently, and in the foreseeable future, is exclusively with nVidia cards. Adam From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 22 13:56:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E039516A407 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from flz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B31113C4C2 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from flz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.xbsd.org (unknown [82.233.2.192]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B283A59FD0; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:55:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.xbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.xbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FD911983; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:55:59 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at xbsd.org Received: from smtp.xbsd.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv1.xbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8UwsBVt4ylEd; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:55:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from [193.95.134.156] (mayday.esat.net [193.95.134.156]) by smtp.xbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39E911C0B; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:55:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <46028ADE.8050509@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:55:42 +0000 From: Florent Thoumie User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam K Kirchhoff References: <46022E59.7030407@jabbe.de> <200703220906.25702.adamk@voicenet.com> <460287F0.9060904@FreeBSD.org> <200703220948.31826.adamk@voicenet.com> In-Reply-To: <200703220948.31826.adamk@voicenet.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig16DABF74D99C57FCAD9F8C13" Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What can I do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:56:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig16DABF74D99C57FCAD9F8C13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > On Thursday 22 March 2007 09:43, Florent Thoumie wrote: >> Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: >>> On Thursday 22 March 2007 08:54, Florent Thoumie wrote: >>>> Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: >>>>> I'm glad to see that there are people working on fixing ports that >>>>> break due to the move to modular and the change to X11BASE, but I'm= >>>>> curious if anyone is actively working on fixing the bugs actually >>>>> present in Xorg 7.2 on FreeBSD (ie. AIGLX, ATI pcigart support, etc= =2E)? >>>> I am not. I have no idea what the problems are, or how to solve them= =2E >>>> Just so we're clear, it won't stop X.org 7.2 happening in ports :-) >>> So it's going to be rolled out even though one of the great new and >>> improved features of 7.2 is broken on FreeBSD? :-) >>> >>> Well, it's not my decision to make, but it seems like a bad decision = to >>> me. >> Too bad you're not the one to decide then :-) >> >> Feel free to clone my git repo and maintain xorg out of the tree until= >> this is resolved. Cause once we fixed all broken ports, if it's not >> going in, don't ask me to do anymore work on Xorg. I think I had my >> share (and a fair one). >=20 > Please understand that I am very appreciative of all the work you guys = are=20 > doing. It's been a major undertaking, and you've gone a hell of a job.= It's=20 > just sad, for me, to see that the only way to get a stable 3D desktop i= n=20 > FreeBSD currently, and in the foreseeable future, is exclusively with n= Vidia=20 > cards. FWIW, beryl is currently broken on my nVidia machines as well. I understand perfectly what you mean, but let me summarize how things work, people work on that kind of stuff because of interest and/or money. Sadly I'm not interested in working on this and I have no particular knowledge that I could sell to fix AIGLX or pcigart. Your best bet is to ask xorg developers. --=20 Florent Thoumie flz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD Committer --------------enig16DABF74D99C57FCAD9F8C13 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGAoroMxEkbVFH3PQRCk1kAJwOz/c7QeBJ28GkawTbFjFfNzXxBwCfRKU2 AsDFqtDv1SC8Rf98GMOe0vA= =wtkP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig16DABF74D99C57FCAD9F8C13-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 22 14:04:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB1616A403 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:04:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@jabbe.de) Received: from smtp.hispeed.ch (mxout.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC5013C4D1 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@jabbe.de) Received: from [192.168.1.16] (80-218-184-161.dclient.hispeed.ch [80.218.184.161]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.hispeed.ch (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/taifun-1.0) with ESMTP id l2ME4QDk004480 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:04:26 +0100 Message-ID: <46028CEB.8050309@jabbe.de> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:04:27 +0100 From: Rainer Goellner Organization: Arctopile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070309) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org References: <46022E59.7030407@jabbe.de> <46026D62.4010009@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <46026D62.4010009@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.7, clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on smtp-03.tornado.cablecom.ch X-Virus-Status: Clean X-DCC-spamcheck-02.tornado.cablecom.ch-Metrics: smtp-03.tornado.cablecom.ch 1378; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Subject: Re: What can I do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rgoellner@gmx.de List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:04:29 -0000 Florent Thoumie wrote: > Rainer Goellner wrote: >> area I can help to get that xorg thing into the >> ports tree in the conceivable future? > > Probably not (explanation follows). > That's what I thought. >> What I have now is a working release 6.2 system, > > 7th of march? Do you realise some people including me are using the git > tree since october? :-) Yep, but your's ist full of dust by now ;-) Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not a total newbie, have been lurking from the dark (and using FreeBSD!) for a decade or so. > Which also means I have to merge upstream > (regular ports tree) changes into xorg branch almost everyday so that > people can have current xorg ports *and* freebsd ports at the same time. > I really do appreciate that, although I think there's a problem - several ports had to be corrected a few hours after a change lateley, so when you start a full build from such a snap you'll get some "false errors". What can I tell you? Probably you're aware of that anyway. > As you can see on [3], we're still committing fixes. We usually fix > those ports by ourselves (miwi, lesi and myself) but occasionally > forward them to maintainers when we can't figure out what's wrong or > when it requires non-trivial fix. When we fixed all ports broken in a > single experimental pointyhat build, a new one is scheduled and then we > get new errorlogs, ... > So my impression was correct that most of what's left has to do with the right to commit, build and allot. > You're not the first one to say that you'd like xorg > 7.2 in ports now. > I'm sure about that, and I'll be the last to keep you from working hard to get it done ;-) Rainer From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 22 14:14:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2620E16A402; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamk@voicenet.com) Received: from b.mx.visualtech.com (b.mx.visualtech.com [208.16.19.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C387113C4E7; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamk@voicenet.com) Received: from [10.1.3.8] (maat.visualtech.com [208.16.19.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by b.mx.visualtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D30483B7; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:14:21 -0500 (EST) From: Adam K Kirchhoff To: Florent Thoumie Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:14:29 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <46022E59.7030407@jabbe.de> <200703220948.31826.adamk@voicenet.com> <46028ADE.8050509@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <46028ADE.8050509@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703221014.30293.adamk@voicenet.com> Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What can I do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:14:33 -0000 On Thursday 22 March 2007 09:55, Florent Thoumie wrote: > Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > > On Thursday 22 March 2007 09:43, Florent Thoumie wrote: > >> Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > >>> On Thursday 22 March 2007 08:54, Florent Thoumie wrote: > >>>> Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > >>>>> I'm glad to see that there are people working on fixing ports that > >>>>> break due to the move to modular and the change to X11BASE, but I'm > >>>>> curious if anyone is actively working on fixing the bugs actually > >>>>> present in Xorg 7.2 on FreeBSD (ie. AIGLX, ATI pcigart support, > >>>>> etc.)? > >>>> > >>>> I am not. I have no idea what the problems are, or how to solve them. > >>>> Just so we're clear, it won't stop X.org 7.2 happening in ports :-) > >>> > >>> So it's going to be rolled out even though one of the great new and > >>> improved features of 7.2 is broken on FreeBSD? :-) > >>> > >>> Well, it's not my decision to make, but it seems like a bad decision to > >>> me. > >> > >> Too bad you're not the one to decide then :-) > >> > >> Feel free to clone my git repo and maintain xorg out of the tree until > >> this is resolved. Cause once we fixed all broken ports, if it's not > >> going in, don't ask me to do anymore work on Xorg. I think I had my > >> share (and a fair one). > > > > Please understand that I am very appreciative of all the work you guys > > are doing. It's been a major undertaking, and you've gone a hell of a > > job. It's just sad, for me, to see that the only way to get a stable 3D > > desktop in FreeBSD currently, and in the foreseeable future, is > > exclusively with nVidia cards. > > FWIW, beryl is currently broken on my nVidia machines as well. > > I understand perfectly what you mean, but let me summarize how things > work, people work on that kind of stuff because of interest and/or > money. Sadly I'm not interested in working on this and I have no > particular knowledge that I could sell to fix AIGLX or pcigart. > > Your best bet is to ask xorg developers. Hmmm... Well, I haven't tried with my nVidia card since January, but it did work back then. In any case, I am aware of how open source development works :-) I've been following the DRI project for years now, and have seen developers come and go. And, just as you described, they work on what they want to work on or what they're being paid to work on. I imagine this is true with the FreeBSD project and Xorg, too. Unfortunately, FreeBSD has always played catch-up with linux when it came to 3D acceleration. Let's face it, the hardware vendors only care about 3D acceleration on Linux (if that), and the developers who do this because they love it primarily use Linux. The FreeBSD project lost a great asset when Eric Anholt went to work for Intel, and it's a shame the FreeBSD project has not been able to replace him with someone as knowledgeable about the DRI. Till that happens, I believe FreeBSD is going to continue to trail behind linux in regards to newer features and functionality. In the mean time I'll continue to leave FreeBSD on my system at home, though I rarely boot into it these days... I still have my bugreport open about the broken ati pcigart, so if there's ever a change, I'll hopefully be able to test it. Even, for me, AIGLX is not that important if I can just get basic 3D acceleration going again, so I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed. Thanks again for your hard work. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 22 14:19:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E042F16A400 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@jabbe.de) Received: from smtp.hispeed.ch (mxout.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D40413C4BB for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@jabbe.de) Received: from [192.168.1.16] (80-218-184-161.dclient.hispeed.ch [80.218.184.161]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.hispeed.ch (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/taifun-1.0) with ESMTP id l2MEJSDW029035 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:19:29 +0100 Message-ID: <46029071.5080505@jabbe.de> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:19:29 +0100 From: Rainer Goellner Organization: Arctopile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070309) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org References: <46022E59.7030407@jabbe.de> <46026D62.4010009@FreeBSD.org> <200703220834.55575.adamk@voicenet.com> <46027C6B.7060707@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <46027C6B.7060707@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.7, clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on smtp-07.tornado.cablecom.ch X-Virus-Status: Clean X-DCC-spamcheck-01.tornado.cablecom.ch-Metrics: smtp-07.tornado.cablecom.ch 1377; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Subject: Re: What can I do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rgoellner@gmx.de List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:19:31 -0000 Florent Thoumie wrote: > Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > >> I'm glad to see that there are people working on fixing ports that break due >> to the move to modular and the change to X11BASE, but I'm curious if anyone >> is actively working on fixing the bugs actually present in Xorg 7.2 on >> FreeBSD (ie. AIGLX, ATI pcigart support, etc.)? > Anyway, what can I do? Is anyone working on Matrox 3D (mga, not mtx) support, or can we be sure that it's never gonna work from now on? Would be something to start with for me. > I am not. I have no idea what the problems are, or how to solve them. > Just so we're clear, it won't stop X.org 7.2 happening in ports :-) > Full ack. Get it working now, garnish it later. Rainer From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 22 15:05:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: x11@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DD216A403 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@bsam.ru) Received: from mail.kuban.ru (mail.kuban.ru [62.183.66.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B9913C483 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:05:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@bsam.ru) Received: from bsam.ru ([85.172.12.82]) by mail.kuban.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id l2MEPGwb065703 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:25:27 +0300 (MSK) Received: from bsam by bsam.ru with local (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HUOCB-0008ul-HA for x11@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:23:15 +0300 To: x11@FreeBSD.org From: Boris Samorodov Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:23:15 +0300 Message-ID: <56454220@bsam.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Boris Samorodov Cc: Subject: x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-truetype: Fatal error: filesystem was touched prior to 'make install' phase X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:05:44 -0000 Hi! On my tinderboxes (i386, amd64) on various FreeBSD versions (7.x and 6.x tested) I get this error while building the port: ----- cat tis620-2.enc | gzip > tis620-2.enc.gz cat viscii1.1-1.enc | gzip > viscii1.1-1.enc.gz rm -f encodings.dir fonts.dir + /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir -n -r -p /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/ -e . -e large . rm -f fonts.scale /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontscale . rm -f fonts.dir /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir . /usr/X11R6/bin/fc-cache . ================================================================ ======================================== make: don't know how to make regression-test(continuing) ================================================================ Fatal error: filesystem was touched prior to 'make install' phase var/db/fontconfig/3a33e145c207a68434098ae9dcea78fb-x86.cache-2 extra ./var/db/fontconfig/c5f5d66d15c24edc3e863c27139db87e-x86.cache-2 missing ================================================================ ================================================================ build of /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-truetype ended at Thu Mar 22 14:21:04 UTC 2007 ----- I use tinderbox-2.3.4_3. Seems that it is a result of changes to x11-fonts/fontconfig. But I may be mistaken here. Help! Thanks. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 22 16:09:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3122816A400 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottro@nyc.rr.com) Received: from mail12.simplicato.com (mail12.simplicato.com [207.99.47.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA4D13C46A for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottro@nyc.rr.com) Received: from mail12.simplicato.com (localhost [207.99.47.64]) by mail12.simplicato.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00FCE6EB for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uws1.starlofashions.com (unknown [12.44.50.124]) by mail12.simplicato.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14F5E663 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by uws1.starlofashions.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:44:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:44:18 -0400 From: Scott Robbins To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070322154418.GB40223@uws1.starlofashions.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org References: <46022E59.7030407@jabbe.de> <46026D62.4010009@FreeBSD.org> <200703220834.55575.adamk@voicenet.com> <46027C6B.7060707@FreeBSD.org> <46029071.5080505@jabbe.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46029071.5080505@jabbe.de> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: What can I do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:09:59 -0000 On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 03:19:29PM +0100, Rainer Goellner wrote: > Florent Thoumie wrote: > >Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > >>I'm glad to see that there are people working on fixing ports that break due > >>to the move to modular and the change to X11BASE, but I'm curious if anyone > >>is actively working on fixing the bugs actually present in Xorg 7.2 on > >>FreeBSD (ie. AIGLX, ATI pcigart support, etc.)? > Anyway, what can I do? Is anyone working on Matrox 3D > (mga, not mtx) support, or can we be sure that it's > never gonna work from now on? Would be something to > start with for me. > Just a comment on mga cards. (I have an old one, so I'm not even thinking about 3D. Ubuntu, the supposed best for newcomers, etc, yada yada broke Matrox support in Edgy and haven't fixed it, despite a fix being offered on their bug reports--a working fix. On the other hand, FreeBSD's xorg-7.x works perfectly with my Matrox. So take that Ubuntu. :) (Folks please don't take this as an our O/S is better than yours--note the smilely. I do think that Ubuntu should fix it for advocacy reasons, but that's completely off-topic. My purpose here is merely to point out that there are times when we're ahead of Linux.) May I also take this opportunity to add my most sincere thanks to the xorg team for all their hard work and time. (and say, yeah, me too--I want it in the ports tree, hurry hurry, are we there yet?) (Folks please don't take this as an our O/S is better than yours--note the smilely. I do think that Ubuntu should fix it for advocacy reasons, but that's completely off-topic. My purpose here is merely to point out that there are times when we're ahead of Linux.) May I also take this opportunity to add my most sincere thanks to the xorg team for all their hard work and time. (and say, yeah, me too--I want it in the ports tree, hurry hurry, are we there yet?) (Folks please don't take this as an our O/S is better than yours--note the smilely. I do think that Ubuntu should fix it for advocacy reasons, but that's completely off-topic. My purpose here is merely to point out that there are times when we're ahead of Linux.) May I also take this opportunity to add my most sincere thanks to the xorg team for all their hard work and time. (and say, yeah, me too--I want it in the ports tree, hurry hurry, are we there yet?) (Folks please don't take this as an our O/S is better than yours--note the smilely. I do think that Ubuntu should fix it for advocacy reasons, but that's completely off-topic. My purpose here is merely to point out that there are times when we're ahead of Linux.) May I also take this opportunity to add my most sincere thanks to the xorg team for all their hard work and time. (and say, yeah, me too--I want it in the ports tree, hurry hurry, are we there yet?) (Folks please don't take this as an our O/S is better than yours--note the smilely. I do think that Ubuntu should fix it for advocacy reasons, but that's completely off-topic. My purpose here is merely to point out that there are times when we're ahead of Linux.) May I also take this opportunity to add my most sincere thanks to the xorg team for all their hard work and time. (and say, yeah, me too--I want it in the ports tree, hurry hurry, are we there yet?) (Folks please don't take this as an our O/S is better than yours--note the smilely. I do think that Ubuntu should fix it for advocacy reasons, but that's completely off-topic. My purpose here is merely to point out that there are times when we're ahead of Linux.) May I also take this opportunity to add my most sincere thanks to the xorg team for all their hard work and time. (and say, yeah, me too--I want it in the ports tree, hurry hurry, are we there yet?) (Folks please don't take this as an our O/S is better than yours--note the smilely. I do think that Ubuntu should fix it for advocacy reasons, but that's completely off-topic. My purpose here is merely to point out that there are times when we're ahead of Linux.) May I also take this opportunity to add my most sincere thanks to the xorg team for all their hard work and time. (and say, yeah, me too--I want it in the ports tree, hurry hurry, are we there yet?) (Folks please don't take this as an our O/S is better than yours--note the smilely. I do think that Ubuntu should fix it for advocacy reasons, but that's completely off-topic. My purpose here is merely to point out that there are times when we're ahead of Linux.) May I also take this opportunity to add my most sincere thanks to the xorg team for all their hard work and time. (and say, yeah, me too--I want it in the ports tree, hurry hurry, are we there yet?) (Folks please don't take this as an our O/S is better than yours--note the smilely. I do think that Ubuntu should fix it for advocacy reasons, but that's completely off-topic. My purpose here is merely to point out that there are times when we're ahead of Linux.) May I also take this opportunity to add my most sincere thanks to the xorg team for all their hard work and time. (and say, yeah, me too--I want it in the ports tree, hurry hurry, are we there yet?) Whimsically yours, -- Scott GPG KeyID EB3467D6 ( 1B848 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 D575 EB34 67D6) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Giles: Nothing left but skin and cartilage. Xander: In other words, this was no boating accident. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 22 16:14:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: x11@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACDF916A404 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from nat-application.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (nat-application.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz [195.122.204.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5BD13C508 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:14:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pav.hide.vol.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nat-application.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2MFfd9P086949; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:41:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by pav.hide.vol.cz (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2MFfdd9086948; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:41:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: pav.hide.vol.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Boris Samorodov In-Reply-To: <56454220@bsam.ru> References: <56454220@bsam.ru> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-0MBTtQgPLm/fAGmiEMAz" Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:41:39 +0100 Message-Id: <1174578099.96974.25.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.0 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-truetype: Fatal error: filesystem was touched prior to 'make install' phase X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:14:23 -0000 --=-0MBTtQgPLm/fAGmiEMAz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Boris Samorodov p=ED=B9e v =E8t 22. 03. 2007 v 17:23 +0300: > On my tinderboxes (i386, amd64) on various FreeBSD versions (7.x and > 6.x tested) I get this error while building the port: > Fatal error: filesystem was touched prior to 'make install' phase > var/db/fontconfig/3a33e145c207a68434098ae9dcea78fb-x86.cache-2 extra > ./var/db/fontconfig/c5f5d66d15c24edc3e863c27139db87e-x86.cache-2 missing > I use tinderbox-2.3.4_3. Seems that it is a result of changes to > Help! Thanks. Update to tinderbox-2.3.5 --=20 Pav Lucistnik And the sign said long haired, freaky people need not apply. --=-0MBTtQgPLm/fAGmiEMAz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Toto je =?UTF-8?Q?digit=C3=A1ln=C4=9B?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_podepsan=E1?= =?UTF-8?Q?_=C4=8D=C3=A1st?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_zpr=E1vy?= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGAqOvntdYP8FOsoIRAhSKAJ4lcme9LgFomeXLW0Fvm+B9uYLQGQCeNlQY BszJuQe0y+0zLuWkyQ47AwI= =jGTr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-0MBTtQgPLm/fAGmiEMAz-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 22 16:49:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00F716A402 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pneumann@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7047913C4AD for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pneumann@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so791613wxc for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:49:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hwIF1LHjjk8AuNFGknwzWxMItraY1r9R4KyKxXSE9azt8LjlxahnIs36Hl0DyLtoC7yb3Yz84u5h3QoHc69eKUuxQe22VjV7WYFauzuplak5PYkoXrZLRz/o9RkyPuNVjCpFkgCISA+e7UTLbS4hN87X0t+pUST+HZ3V3ySM3DM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IG5WsGZlaclwFjTcK5C6GSHvalnKO42TeYsONsT8a4hufvvYEEGSRJnzJzQM8DAX6EW67l4V3H0qVDxx471R56CxCWz9mw7fUjbybMZC8xZHjEgOlGqWag3Vo5hSo/H93WRC+5KrlQLOXh/rXGMme+oeAF5bUdqLrUFTny+P8+E= Received: by 10.90.118.12 with SMTP id q12mr3742035agc.1174580444553; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.231? ( [200.113.171.82]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l48sm3640618wrl.2007.03.22.09.20.43; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4602ACD6.90103@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:20:38 -0400 From: Phillip Neumann User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <56454220@bsam.ru> In-Reply-To: <56454220@bsam.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-truetype: Fatal error: filesystem was touched prior to 'make install' phase X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:49:44 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > > I use tinderbox-2.3.4_3. Seems that it is a result of changes to > x11-fonts/fontconfig. But I may be mistaken here. > > Help! Thanks. > > > WBR > upgrade you tinderbox... (2.3.5) good luck! 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Seems that it is a result of changes to > > x11-fonts/fontconfig. But I may be mistaken here. > > > > Help! Thanks. > upgrade you tinderbox... (2.3.5) That did it! Pav and Phillip, thank you very much. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 23 21:02:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589EC16A401; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:02:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3238213C465; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:02:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (pav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2NL2GHq012979; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:02:16 GMT (envelope-from pav@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l2NL2GWA012975; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:02:16 GMT (envelope-from pav) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:02:16 GMT From: Pav Lucistnik Message-Id: <200703232102.l2NL2GWA012975@freefall.freebsd.org> To: pav@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/110721: system hang at start of dual head xorg configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:02:16 -0000 Synopsis: system hang at start of dual head xorg configuration Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-ports-bugs->freebsd-x11 Responsible-Changed-By: pav Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Mar 23 21:01:42 UTC 2007 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to maintainers group http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=110721