From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 22 13:42:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4BE1065672 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon.otterholm@ide.resurscentrum.se) Received: from mail1.cil.se (mail1.cil.se [217.197.56.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FC18FC1F for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:42:17 +0000 (UTC) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:30:12 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Teleommunications data retention / 2006/24/EG Thread-Index: AcvSlFpSop8I/c4QRtO8qlkBC344Eg== From: "Jon Otterholm" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Teleommunications data retention / 2006/24/EG X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:42:18 -0000 As a member of EU, ISP's in Sweden are now force to comply with 2006/24/EG from 2011-07-01. =20 In short we have store information about our customers communication with the rest of the world - and we are not happy being forced to do this. =20 In Denmark ISP's have done this for a while and (as to my knowledge) they are using Cisco Netflow to do this.=20 =20 I am aware of ng-netflow and was wondering if anyone out there are using this on their FreeBSD bases routers to comply with 2006/24/EG? =20 Are there anyone out there using FreeBSD routers successfully running a solution that complies with 2006/24/EG? =20 //JO From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 22 14:26:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFF4106564A for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yusdyr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E208FC0C for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so132963ewy.13 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:26:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BRw0fCp0CxqV0XiTP3Yk7A3xlz04GJcopSUwWJJ40/k=; b=Vn3hBV+QeuLVq9RxsOa67DmpTNBpIUL0pbbKGQIv7yy3/4wJuYhgxq2P9wWS0S9OGz c2yTFmQcZsCzaYAKPAKlWMxf7YOpa250CBcfU2Poq28nDpyivmXsnyiT7Ni7XfrxctAq EedH9rsxmd9UYJUzyygpxI/ZTgkevvk+yi+fw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=e2eqerSevTM+tR70/ffEihIOtAsAup+ABcYWmFJmtoEKSqoANroTD449HHmVV6YNJD o1jU1ilP9or3vyp/JI0j7Dq6CcpAsT8Z83FcB28n1fA880w1Ut3XV56Ijsjslwo3pAmA RHWzuFVocvYlKDMeBb0qsLpARGY510KjI5WlY= Received: by 10.213.104.147 with SMTP id p19mr3026726ebo.77.1298382979432; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:56:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [217.119.16.26] (dyr.smartspb.net [217.119.16.26]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t50sm5981388eeh.6.2011.02.22.05.56.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:56:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D63C07C.6010906@Gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:56:12 +0300 From: Dennis Yusupoff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; ru; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Teleommunications data retention / 2006/24/EG X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:26:36 -0000 22.02.2011 16:30, Jon Otterholm пишет: > Are there anyone out there using FreeBSD routers successfully running a > solution that complies with 2006/24/EG? I don't know is it that you wants, but there are a lot of ISP in Russia, who use FreeBSD routers with netflow via ng_netflow, you could easily find appropriate articles via www.yandex.ru, for example: http://it.domnails.ru/?p=63 http://www.hilik.org.ua/setup-ng_netflow/ and so on. Translate.google.com helps you. --- With best regards, Dennis Yusupoff, network engineer of Smart-Telecom ISP Russia, Saint-Petersburg From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 23 10:29:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F297106564A for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:29:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rasmus@aix.dk) Received: from echo.abiosis.dk (2309.x.rootbsd.net [204.109.56.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5DB8FC16 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chicken.abiosis.dk (out8.hq.siminn.dk [195.184.109.8]) by echo.abiosis.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AF17FB9E7; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:04:55 +0100 From: Rasmus Glud Andersen To: Jon Otterholm Message-ID: <20110223100454.GA6333@chicken.abiosis.dk> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Teleommunications data retention / 2006/24/EG X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:29:58 -0000 On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 02:30:12PM +0100, Jon Otterholm wrote: > In Denmark ISP's have done this for a while and (as to my knowledge) > they are using Cisco Netflow to do this. I might be worth the time to look at IPFIX [1] as an alternative, instead of Cisco Netflow. -- Rasmus Glud Andersen [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Flow_Information_Export From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 23 16:31:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600701065670 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:31:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon.otterholm@ide.resurscentrum.se) Received: from mail1.cil.se (mail1.cil.se [217.197.56.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF788FC1C for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:31:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 192.168.44.14 ([192.168.44.14]) by edusrv05.edu.irc.local ([192.168.44.14]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:31:49 +0000 References: <20110223100454.GA6333@chicken.abiosis.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Jon Otterholm" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <20110223100454.GA6333@chicken.abiosis.dk> Message-ID: <06F66A07-F8F3-4C46-9091-9C0C194B51F9@ide.resurscentrum.se> Thread-Topic: Teleommunications data retention / 2006/24/EG Thread-Index: AcvTdytXe7RUbrY7QraZ0aVxgxAQvg== Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:31:39 +0100 To: "Rasmus Glud Andersen" MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Teleommunications data retention / 2006/24/EG X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:31:49 -0000 23 feb 2011 kl. 11:15 skrev "Rasmus Glud Andersen" : > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 02:30:12PM +0100, Jon Otterholm wrote: >=20 >> In Denmark ISP's have done this for a while and (as to my knowledge) >> they are using Cisco Netflow to do this.=20 >=20 > I might be worth the time to look at IPFIX [1] as an alternative, instead o= f Cisco Netflow. >=20 > --=20 > Rasmus Glud Andersen=20 >=20 > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Flow_Information_Export >=20 >=20 Interesting.=20 Are there any implementations of IPFIX for FreeBSD out there to generate/col= ect the flow-information?=20 //JO=