From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 1 00:36:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9184FEA0 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2015 00:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from barracuda.ixsystems.com (mail.ixsystems.com [69.198.165.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ixsystems.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B04BEF8 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2015 00:36:02 +0000 (UTC) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1422750961-08ca04118814c90001-2kT8co Received: from mail.iXsystems.com ([10.2.55.1]) by barracuda.ixsystems.com with ESMTP id jwnBds0v6lc3igDR (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:36:01 -0800 (PST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: john@ixsystems.com X-Barracuda-RBL-Trusted-Forwarder: 10.2.55.1 X-ASG-Whitelist: Client Received: from thinkbsd.divinix.org (unknown [10.8.0.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E9768886E9; Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:36:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ixsystems.com; s=newknight0; t=1422750961; bh=HuxZ3E0xql7ADYdCCxlQL0JxT0HLHvHm1+ad06Gezrw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=kd4vsNZS//246D02mbOjG1tFYFeQvi5MBbcKlglxFY4yt2w0s8MndwUil0JjmrIdP 0e9IDJI2gPpPHYryn48SYbu83AAYJgbks5SzCaCq3F6zH/6luhb9r8VnbDtZy7c8JA Qh6uupDkjOtsYqiIWUde36b5rgl7KdWieMgkgMV8= Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:35:59 -0800 From: John Hixson To: arnab bhowmick Subject: Re: Buying a laptop Message-ID: <20150201003558.GC27779@thinkbsd.divinix.org> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: Buying a laptop References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[10.2.55.1] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1422750961 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA X-Barracuda-URL: https://10.2.0.41:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at ixsystems.com X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 00:36:02 -0000 On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 05:15:16PM +0530, arnab bhowmick wrote: > Hi friends i want to buy a laptop. please recommend some brand that can > easily install freebsd . please suggest me something(brand) as my old > laptop stopped working for shortcircuit and i am in great trouble. I've been using IBM and then Lenovo thinkpads for years with good results. - John > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 1 04:03:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 393DE323 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2015 04:03:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D540338 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2015 04:03:41 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=XBPKbidjXJHmuV7kFolVxCqU9oNu86ELvhsHFCaOOPI=; b=Mjde241l1Yv7eUU4x27JYZRgQN3SLxUl4vkRxYWEMGgnA4fsB/s5B1UHIxMZTiEzPk4MEDhHbww0N+R/4T5ZHi+cERdjo/h4FTlodOUitoCSHs4q2/uBaqMc40zcBSAA9GnfpgyE8ngnYUdY9EzKVY4uDeHc+ebm2MaO/a6KUh8=; Received: from [114.121.160.156] (port=49453 helo=B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YHlJu-002ce8-30; Sat, 31 Jan 2015 20:35:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 11:35:21 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: arnab bhowmick Subject: Re: Buying a laptop Message-ID: <20150201113521.3c9bd5e4@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 04:03:42 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 17:15:16 +0530 arnab bhowmick wrote: > Hi friends i want to buy a laptop. please recommend some brand that > can easily install freebsd . please suggest me something(brand) as my > old laptop stopped working for shortcircuit and i am in great trouble. I use an Lenovo X220 with 10.1 since nearly three years. Be careful with cheaper Lenovos as they have very often hardware which is not supported by FreeBSD. A higher end ThinkPad should do. As Intel's new CPU generation is coming out soon, there might be some cheaper options on the older models coming too. Erich From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 1 06:56:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7945BFC1 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2015 06:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0FE2D03 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2015 06:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id t116olae070210; Sun, 1 Feb 2015 17:50:48 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 17:50:47 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Parv Subject: Re: Buying a laptop - used In-Reply-To: <20150131145130.GA3938@holstein.holy.cow> Message-ID: <20150201154129.J14378@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20150131145130.GA3938@holstein.holy.cow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: arnab bhowmick , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 06:56:51 -0000 On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 04:51:30 -1000, Parv wrote: > in message > , > wrote arnab bhowmick thusly... > > > > Hi friends i want to buy a laptop. please recommend some brand > > that can easily install freebsd . please suggest me > > something(brand) as my old laptop stopped working for shortcircuit > > and i am in great trouble. > > If you are not averse to buying a used 'puter ... > > I am currently using a used Lenovo Thinkpad X200 with FreeBSD 8. I > have not tried using or setting at all any suspend-resume setting. A > 9-celll battery ([0], "47++", apparently bought new about 2-3 years > ago along with the 'puter) lasts for 4.5 hours. I bought a used X200 a year ago without AC adaptor or battery, so bought it a new 6-cell battery (47+) and 65W P/S (about AU$150). Using powerd - but not p4tcc or acpi_throttle - it runs almost 6 hours on battery just idling and over 4 hours with moderate use, so your 9-cell battery may be getting a bit old, and/or you haven't optimised power usage? After a problem that affected many/most modern T and X series Lenovos regarding losing external USB ports on resume was resolved last year, suspend and resume work flawlesly; they're really nice little machines. Arnab may not wish to buy anything as old as an X200 (C.2008), but could likely pick up an X210/220/230, or the larger T410/420/430 models at a good price. Very latest models may still have some issues with video? cheers, Ian > - parv > > [0] http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/itemdetails/43R9255/460/D65CF46CB0DB412FA2E56C552E0D8A38#techspecs From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 2 02:20:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F9ACBD6 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 02:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x22b.google.com (mail-pa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B7E46CA for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 02:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id eu11so76036293pac.2 for ; Sun, 01 Feb 2015 18:20:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=R2LREhmw08E2h/jetKWpoymfWLYBXPzz+WjD9SyCg90=; b=LT7po7HvFi0zToP5qJzwqx29Z3esnYqR3B5UbIMrxuKS0iDXoBZsyr9chKcT9qcElB gQvKTbKpC14oTfG223Yiv+ndMr/gCXeHts5HjQBjxYiy9Y22EdUG0x28OUt2DjOhmQhx 5eak5JD8fHCF6K9xuFa/A2McBj03IJB4pzvhEHeSIIVUErMZU5C65rCv3QRlSp+fMYmK LEEhJvMZ/IW0PS3dT0fE6kKB75xSOfu9lK/BTJw18nny575Wxk1OIDyN0rGn6SS0nyvv 0CewECgo2FTciWXRi+jpe/4YA8sRKCdytpS9+7GGzFjfKkadwNG3JnVWjtyXmb2wJafA ZpMQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.70.45.108 with SMTP id l12mr26037374pdm.112.1422843616587; Sun, 01 Feb 2015 18:20:16 -0800 (PST) Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.67.22.231 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Feb 2015 18:20:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20150201113521.3c9bd5e4@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> References: <20150201113521.3c9bd5e4@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 18:20:16 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NbayZg2q2pObssZ-Z8GNJzmbjuQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Buying a laptop From: Kevin Oberman To: Erich Dollansky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: arnab bhowmick , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 02:20:17 -0000 On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Erich Dollansky < erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com> wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 17:15:16 +0530 > arnab bhowmick wrote: > > > Hi friends i want to buy a laptop. please recommend some brand that > > can easily install freebsd . please suggest me something(brand) as my > > old laptop stopped working for shortcircuit and i am in great trouble. > > I use an Lenovo X220 with 10.1 since nearly three years. > > Be careful with cheaper Lenovos as they have very often hardware which > is not supported by FreeBSD. A higher end ThinkPad should do. > > As Intel's new CPU generation is coming out soon, there might be some > cheaper options on the older models coming too. > > Erich I second this. I have been using 'T' series and it's predecessors for almost 20 years with good results. Always running dual-boot Windows and FreeBSD. T520 for the past three years. Look for supported wireless cards.That has long been the most difficult issue. Had to replace the unsupported Realtech card with a supported Intel. Had to have the custom Lenovo PCI ID version which was 4x the price of the identical card with the Intel PCI ID. Many of the FreeBSD developers over the years have run X and T series units which leads to pretty good support. Booting off of a FreeBSD thumb drive is always a good idea regardless of what you buy, if possible. -- Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 2 07:10:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68C43146 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 07:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30458829 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 07:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [204.210.114.114] ([204.210.114.114:31966] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by dnvrco-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id E5/55-32374-6C22FC45; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 07:09:59 +0000 Received: by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 593125CA4; Sun, 1 Feb 2015 21:14:58 -1000 (HST) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 21:14:58 -1000 From: parv To: Ian Smith Subject: Re: Buying a laptop - used Message-ID: <20150202071458.GA1591@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Ian Smith , arnab bhowmick , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20150131145130.GA3938@holstein.holy.cow> <20150201154129.J14378@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150201154129.J14378@sola.nimnet.asn.au> X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.130:25 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=C71nyG/+ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:117 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Ymsr-CWnAAAA:8 a=0HtSIViG9nkA:10 a=HIOgQvyUAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=0CpadfFfBY85AI4qXoUA:9 a=PXepkQCg9nkzfW5n:21 a=H5MhWSiLrqXq__Gh:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KDrRK_fL9PsA:10 a=HqdXF6BxOZEA:10 a=o3uIH4sffOkA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Cc: arnab bhowmick , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 07:10:06 -0000 in message <20150201154129.J14378@sola.nimnet.asn.au>, wrote Ian Smith thusly... > Hi Ian, > On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 04:51:30 -1000, Parv wrote: ... > > I am currently using a used Lenovo Thinkpad X200 with FreeBSD > > 8. I have not tried using or setting at all any suspend-resume > > setting. A 9-celll battery ([0], "47++", apparently bought new > > about 2-3 years ago along with the 'puter) lasts for 4.5 hours. > > I bought a used X200 a year ago without AC adaptor or battery, so > bought it a new 6-cell battery (47+) and 65W P/S (about AU$150). > Using powerd - but not p4tcc or acpi_throttle - it runs almost 6 > hours on battery just idling and over 4 hours with moderate use, Sweet, Ian! Which version of FreeBSD are you running? 8-STABLE is on my X200 for now; have been thinking (for a while) to update to 10-STABLE. > so your 9-cell battery may be getting a bit old, and/or you > haven't optimised power usage? No, I have not used any power related things in FreeBSD itself. I do have BIOS setup to maximum performance when connected to AC power; optimize battery otherwise. One thing I am not sure is what happens when booted up on battery & some time later connect to AC, and vice versa. In any case I will try powered, and possibly other things. > After a problem that affected many/most modern T and X series > Lenovos regarding losing external USB ports on resume was resolved > last year, suspend and resume work flawlesly; they're really nice > little machines. Good to hear. Would that be suspend-to-RAM? > Arnab may not wish to buy anything as old as an X200 (C.2008), Oh, I remembered later somebody was running FreeBSD 11 on Macbook Pro 2011 ... http://blog.foxkit.us/2015/01/freebsd-on-apple-macbook-pro-82-now.html?spref=tw > but could likely pick up an X210/220/230, or the larger > T410/420/430 models at a good price. Sure. (I am also looking for another one, this time much lighter than X200. Is Thinkpad X1 Carbon II any lighter, I wonder.) > Very latest models may still have some issues with video? Well, somebody had reported success|progress with Intel i915 on 11-CURRENT (and somebody else had working suspend-resume with "recent HEAD" on X230) ... https://twitter.com/etnapierala/status/561500382850215936 - parv -- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 2 14:48:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C59F3A1 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 14:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27B14DB3 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 14:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YII3h-0005eN-MU for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:33:01 +0100 Received: from dynamic34-29.dynamic.dal.ca ([129.173.34.203]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:33:01 +0100 Received: from jrm by dynamic34-29.dynamic.dal.ca with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:33:01 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Joseph Mingrone Subject: Re: Buying a laptop Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:32:47 -0400 Lines: 13 Message-ID: <86lhkge640.fsf@gly.ftfl.ca> References: <20150201113521.3c9bd5e4@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dynamic34-29.dynamic.dal.ca User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:WUFV3xGGde9v8kW0UO0WX/loaDA= X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:48:17 -0000 I also have had mostly positive experience with many Thinkpads. Note I said Thinkpads and not Lenovos. Erich Dollansky writes: > I use an Lenovo X220 with 10.1 since nearly three years. I also have an X220, running a recent 10-STABLE. Pretty much everything works including wireless with the Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 and suspend and resume. I haven't figured out how to control the brightness and there is an annoying BIOS (bug/feature). You can't legacy boot from a GPT-partitioned disk without UEFI. Joseph From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 2 16:51:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00D776F7 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:51:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F03AF04 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id t12Goq08038729; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 03:50:53 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 03:50:52 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: parv Subject: Re: Buying a laptop - used In-Reply-To: <20150202071458.GA1591@holstein.holy.cow> Message-ID: <20150202235524.B14398@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20150131145130.GA3938@holstein.holy.cow> <20150201154129.J14378@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20150202071458.GA1591@holstein.holy.cow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: arnab bhowmick , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:51:05 -0000 On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 21:14:58 -1000, parv wrote: > in message <20150201154129.J14378@sola.nimnet.asn.au>, > wrote Ian Smith thusly... > > > > Hi Ian, Aloha parv! > > On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 04:51:30 -1000, Parv wrote: > ... > > > I am currently using a used Lenovo Thinkpad X200 with FreeBSD > > > 8. I have not tried using or setting at all any suspend-resume > > > setting. A 9-celll battery ([0], "47++", apparently bought new > > > about 2-3 years ago along with the 'puter) lasts for 4.5 hours. > > > > I bought a used X200 a year ago without AC adaptor or battery, so > > bought it a new 6-cell battery (47+) and 65W P/S (about AU$150). > > Using powerd - but not p4tcc or acpi_throttle - it runs almost 6 > > hours on battery just idling and over 4 hours with moderate use, > > Sweet, Ian! Which version of FreeBSD are you running? 8-STABLE is on > my X200 for now; have been thinking (for a while) to update to > 10-STABLE. Presently 9.3-R sources, GENERIC plus a couple of patches and 9.2-R xorg and ports; too busy with other projects to update it and it's not broke. > > so your 9-cell battery may be getting a bit old, and/or you > > haven't optimised power usage? > > No, I have not used any power related things in FreeBSD itself. I do > have BIOS setup to maximum performance when connected to AC power; > optimize battery otherwise. One thing I am not sure is what happens > when booted up on battery & some time later connect to AC, and vice > versa. Below I'll include a small script that shows what's going on in that respect. I don't think the BIOS AC/battery performance settings have any effect at all in FreeBSD, but this script will tell you for sure. > In any case I will try powered, and possibly other things. https://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption is a good place to start. Alexander goes to extremes - and doubles battery life - but the big ones are running powerd to only rev up the CPU/s when needed, and allowing use of C2 and C3 power states, which work reliably on these. In /boot/loader.conf: acpi_ibm_load="YES" hint.p4tcc.0.disabled=1 hint.acpi_throttle.0.disabled=1 This allows EST to run the CPUs at 800, 1600, 2400 & '2401' (turbo) MHz, where CPU power consumption is fairly proportional to frequency. Using p4tcc or acpi_throttle provides many more rates down to 100MHz, but they don't reduce power consumption, make powerd work slower and harder while shuffling frequency, and are removed as defaults from -CURRENT we hear. In /etc/rc.conf: performance_cx_lowest=C3 # you can use "Cmax" here, same on X200 economy_cx_lowest=C3 powerd_enable="YES" powerd_flags="-a adp -b adp -i 70 -r 90" Those powerd settings are you might say 'non-aggressive', only boosting speed on fairly high demand. Lots of fun tuning these to your workload. > > After a problem that affected many/most modern T and X series > > Lenovos regarding losing external USB ports on resume was resolved > > last year, suspend and resume work flawlesly; they're really nice > > little machines. > > Good to hear. Would that be suspend-to-RAM? Yes, FreeBSD doesn't do suspend to disk (ACPI state S4) unless BIOS supports it and none do these days, to my knowledge. I haven't done any real tests, but suspect the X200 would run for a week in S3 suspend (if you don't charge your mobile from its USB ports while suspended :) > > Arnab may not wish to buy anything as old as an X200 (C.2008), > > Oh, I remembered later somebody was running FreeBSD 11 on Macbook > Pro 2011 ... > > http://blog.foxkit.us/2015/01/freebsd-on-apple-macbook-pro-82-now.html?spref=tw That and its previous episode are really good posts for Mac people considering FreeBSD. If my daughter would only let me play with hers :) These also needed an ACPI fix mostly affecting HP laptops that's just been committed to 9 & 10 regarding reporting of AC/battery states etc. > > but could likely pick up an X210/220/230, or the larger > > T410/420/430 models at a good price. > > Sure. (I am also looking for another one, this time much lighter > than X200. Is Thinkpad X1 Carbon II any lighter, I wonder.) I expect so. And I expect they may work with 9.x and 10.x by now, there's been some good ACPI and video stuff MFC'd lately I gather. https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops/Thinkpad_X1_Carbon Also - though out of date re Lenovo problems having dead USB on resume: https://wiki.freebsd.org/SuspendResume > > Very latest models may still have some issues with video? > > Well, somebody had reported success|progress with Intel i915 on > 11-CURRENT (and somebody else had working suspend-resume with > "recent HEAD" on X230) ... > > https://twitter.com/etnapierala/status/561500382850215936 I can't keep track of it at all nowadays .. but I don't think you need to run -CURRENT except perhaps newest laptops with latest chipsets, and except perhaps for the latest wireless work, lacking helpers to MFC it. cheers, Ian Oh yes, scripts; I use this one often: % cat /root/bin/x200stat #!/bin/sh t=" " echo -n "`date` " sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq echo "`sysctl -n dev.cpu.0.cx_usage` $t `sysctl -n vm.loadavg`" echo "`sysctl -n dev.cpu.1.cx_usage` $t { `sysctl -n kern.eventtimer.timer` }" sysctl dev.acpi_ibm | egrep 'fan_|thermal' sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz1.temperature acpiconf -i0 | egrep 'State|Remain|Present|Volt' And also added to /etc/devd.conf notify 10 { match "system" "ACPI"; match "subsystem" "CMBAT"; action "/root/bin/acpi_cmbat $notify"; }; % cat /root/bin/acpi_cmbat #!/bin/sh #% acpi_cmbat 27/6/14 for CMBAT notifies. from /etc/rc.d/power_profile LOGGER="logger -t acpi_cmbat -p daemon.notice" notify=$1 ${LOGGER} "CMBAT notify = $1" #% 27/10/14 logs at 3%, 20%, 80% and discharging, high & charging states /root/bin/x200stat >> /root/acpi_cmbat_events.log echo "CMBAT status: notify = $1" >> /root/acpi_cmbat_events.log exit 0 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 2 17:47:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03802B8F; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 17:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x22c.google.com (mail-qc0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF926911; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 17:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id x3so7402150qcv.3; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 09:47:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5xro8hAGH9S3LoZ1TilueYRq9ZltsUZFh09f4mf7pkQ=; b=aAmG37y13jKYMkBaz3eQ1QhI60aj3kXdfE/4r0Ng+01ndFVWt0l9HxDpo7gQ9HUD+8 AIVGYO/YpfdYfiIrCqCVCE4Ce7LteM3qUNhhi++TWJTfoR8dcYLKOAEJNW6Susy4wGYu O+j/4icvJH8B2Ku/gqZqS78jnugKAjWGr7EO620daBDyVcjdpAEV2g7eEOTtOaHgyvGc 3e+8x3jTpBmGGLG/7YzxEOl9PVK9d1HK+Up+2ypxt+l1TAyhy+knmAG9usGyvPXniXIm NvnUgSJWiHSfDhZ7ZE6/BZBS3t3+AO9Zs6eeT6pZvV6b55j/hxEgEvtyCS3Ws0HHwWo+ yG3w== X-Received: by 10.224.103.129 with SMTP id k1mr43794946qao.93.1422899226897; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 09:47:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from rama-hkr.org (c-71-226-13-107.hsd1.ga.comcast.net. [71.226.13.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m74sm18864883qgd.17.2015.02.02.09.47.06 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Feb 2015 09:47:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54CFB83A.9080106@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 12:47:38 -0500 From: R0B_ROD User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Introduction Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 17:47:08 -0000 Hello! I am merging from Arch Linux, which seems that they copied BSD a lot. :P I am excited to be here. I have never been on a mailing list. My goal is to be a developer of any kind some day. I am always on my laptop since life has dealt me a bad hand. Maybe I haven't been very responsible. Who knows? Trying to do better each day. Looking to make life-long friends. My spirit is still in the 70's although I am only 30 y/o. I do feel like I was living in the time and still carry the 'loving-curious-rebel' attitude. Thanks for reading my ramble. r0b-r0d@rama-hkr:~ % uname -a FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401 Tue Nov 11 21:0249 UTC 2014 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC HP 2B19WM : 4GB RAM : AMD64 E-300 1.4GHz : ATI Radeon 6310HD -Roberto Rodriguez Jr. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 2 18:09:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D55F8E0 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:09:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x22c.google.com (mail-pa0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A33AABBA for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:09:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id rd3so85162239pab.3 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:09:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wmb0fNxcG06ZwIgEIbEXF4RPGMxw5Q58x3ditp7IKFQ=; b=LPRZFQdgGwP5mwwdm+BLSZKDRMPjcN/JcNtxgmr/+53zqEy4HOYLsrXJaoyBY9hbpP r7cFW/WqGxpWylRZNUJvhdvaAUS7v3Qw4+zY3sO31dDsFgnCDz2jZsvf8MWItNuldwGV O3YbgmdYZeVT59+6j+B/6Ac3a4EaN1A22rptmPDrJXXZjLGY+8+QMunckcAlqPdUWGw/ nOuhHgXNCmpeWXGdD0cEfpP3+U8aQWv1eH0FZY11GjZ1r+7v0Mb8O68KOfZwundEdUfl wP4fmqOVPSyKASxJdzGcjoOjtLBYy2ePoTqkxQV2eKQ3GU+S30/Ae3LvMdU8ZpqoIg1E rQIQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.70.103.37 with SMTP id ft5mr31334055pdb.159.1422900549201; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:09:09 -0800 (PST) Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.67.22.231 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:09:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86lhkge640.fsf@gly.ftfl.ca> References: <20150201113521.3c9bd5e4@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> <86lhkge640.fsf@gly.ftfl.ca> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:09:09 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VPAdI6EDffx1nvK1Mc7qHywjm20 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Buying a laptop From: Kevin Oberman To: Joseph Mingrone Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 18:09:09 -0000 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > I also have had mostly positive experience with many Thinkpads. Note I > said Thinkpads and not Lenovos. > > Erich Dollansky writes: > > I use an Lenovo X220 with 10.1 since nearly three years. > > I also have an X220, running a recent 10-STABLE. Pretty much everything > works including wireless with the Intel Centrino Advanced-N > 6205 and suspend and resume. I haven't figured out how to control the > brightness and there is an annoying BIOS (bug/feature). You can't > legacy boot from a GPT-partitioned disk without UEFI. > > Joseph Head was recently fixed so that brightness now works fine. The patch applies cleanly to 10-stable (and 10.1) if you want to try it. My T520 has had working brightness since. Yes, it works with the Fn+HOME and Fn+END keys that are marked as brightness up and down on the keyboard. The patch is to the ACPI code in dev/drm2/i915.intel_opregion.c, though small changes were made to a couple of other files to enable access to the new code, It's in head as r270516 and Adrian has thus far not MFCed to 10-STABLE. If it works for you, you might let him know that you would like to see it done. -- Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 2 18:35:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75BC4EFD for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x233.google.com (mail-ig0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A6DDF0C for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f179.google.com with SMTP id l13so18961950iga.0 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:35:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GLrVC+Ugw0+ETKmReVB8H7loaN+G8cwQiYzjTPjnUqI=; b=DWTiDtR3JsqFEa3bmQ5Ogf2gQFg3Cwwe1coRxnh5jUa2Jn1JqoR2J/nGYecGYRUE8J 4whNCwsxVRIJPsqUDH0WZr3w1uCf0o/iBBjxZHqiTfaW4Sxx2RwE7200iUeFnl39KAaZ xdECgNbMnN6oyuwCEfWjBzQ4zAih41n4kFHOyK4PLn4MECus4GTPPYtEu+3eWXR4ftqT pqVVLzQp3PCo9bi8XZYc7Mozd/mt+UO9N0EVKeeQhA4dC+Gsn5012pwd+u83A82ZOois AWX/eGcC15J7hExttLL5PXFcMUt4D55xUrEx9RP2CIPDcPpUPJ8LuGpsAQ2sS+YixPk5 ZwSw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.164.227 with SMTP id yt3mr13336162igb.32.1422902137693; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:35:37 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.36.17.7 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:35:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20150201113521.3c9bd5e4@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> <86lhkge640.fsf@gly.ftfl.ca> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:35:37 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cQfimMmGQSm63qNGAtU-o2Y6cas Message-ID: Subject: Re: Buying a laptop From: Adrian Chadd To: Kevin Oberman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Joseph Mingrone , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 18:35:38 -0000 Someone else needs to MFC it, sorry :( -a On 2 February 2015 at 10:09, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > >> I also have had mostly positive experience with many Thinkpads. Note I >> said Thinkpads and not Lenovos. >> >> Erich Dollansky writes: >> > I use an Lenovo X220 with 10.1 since nearly three years. >> >> I also have an X220, running a recent 10-STABLE. Pretty much everything >> works including wireless with the Intel Centrino Advanced-N >> 6205 and suspend and resume. I haven't figured out how to control the >> brightness and there is an annoying BIOS (bug/feature). You can't >> legacy boot from a GPT-partitioned disk without UEFI. >> >> Joseph > > > Head was recently fixed so that brightness now works fine. The patch > applies cleanly to 10-stable (and 10.1) if you want to try it. My T520 has > had working brightness since. Yes, it works with the Fn+HOME and Fn+END > keys that are marked as brightness up and down on the keyboard. The patch > is to the ACPI code in dev/drm2/i915.intel_opregion.c, though small changes > were made to a couple of other files to enable access to the new code, > > It's in head as r270516 and Adrian has thus far not MFCed to 10-STABLE. 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[129.173.34.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k35sm6439146iod.5.2015.02.02.10.38.50 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:38:51 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Mingrone To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: Buying a laptop References: <20150201113521.3c9bd5e4@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> <86lhkge640.fsf@gly.ftfl.ca> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:38:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Adrian Chadd's message of "Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:35:37 -0800") Message-ID: <86iofkma4m.fsf@gly.ftfl.ca> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 18:38:53 -0000 Adrian Chadd writes: > Someone else needs to MFC it, sorry :( Who should I pester? P.S. Thanks for fixing this and thanks for pointing out the PR Kevin. 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[71.226.13.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d3sm19318837qaf.13.2015.02.02.12.39.23 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Feb 2015 12:39:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54CFE09B.3060006@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:39:55 -0500 From: R0B_ROD User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: HP 2B19WM PCI-E SD Reader Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:39:25 -0000 Thank you for the time you took to help. According to: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/ \ \ freebsd-current/2013-July/042788.html \ freebsd-questions/2014-August/259843.html % uname -a FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Is the Realtek RTS5229 PCI-E SD Card Reader supported yet??? I have these kernel drivers compiled & loaded mmc mmcsd sdhci As previous posters have said, NO dmesg output from inserting SD card; NO boot output while SD card inserted. 8 Hrs of work to get here; now I'm burned out. PS: Not very talented at solving problems because I don't define them properly at the step 1. -- > Roberto > ^ > /"\ /33.2947° N, 82.2006° W > \ / ASCII REBEL CAMPAIGN / (1) 4044743997 > -X- AGAINST HTML EMAIL / witchdoctor.mdf at gmail.COM > / \ AND POSTINGS / http://mdf0.blogspot.com > \_/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 2 23:09:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 737E2D0; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 23:09:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gold.funkthat.com", Issuer "gold.funkthat.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39A41269; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 23:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t12N9bwX014712 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Feb 2015 15:09:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id t12N9bk3014711; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 15:09:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 15:09:37 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: R0B_ROD Subject: Re: Introduction Message-ID: <20150202230937.GE27103@funkthat.com> References: <54CFB83A.9080106@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54CFB83A.9080106@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 54BA 873B 6515 3F10 9E88 9322 9CB1 8F74 6D3F A396 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (gold.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:09:38 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 23:09:45 -0000 R0B_ROD wrote this message on Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 12:47 -0500: > I am merging from Arch Linux, which seems that > they copied BSD a lot. :P > I am excited to be here. I have never been on a mailing list. > My goal is to be a developer of any kind some day. > I am always on my laptop since life has dealt me a bad hand. > Maybe I haven't been very responsible. Who knows? > Trying to do better each day. Looking to make life-long friends. > My spirit is still in the 70's although I am only 30 y/o. > I do feel like I was living in the time and still carry the > 'loving-curious-rebel' attitude. Thanks for reading my ramble. > > r0b-r0d@rama-hkr:~ % uname -a > FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401 > Tue Nov 11 21:0249 UTC 2014 > root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > HP 2B19WM : 4GB RAM : AMD64 E-300 1.4GHz : ATI Radeon 6310HD Have fun here! It look like you have virtualization support on your CPU, so you could run bhyve to get virtual machines for testing/running current, but that requires you to run either 10-stable or head on it... There are plenty of little projects that need people to work on... look at both the bug database and the wiki for ideas... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." 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I currently am learning how to get my machine's hardware configured. Ran into a wall. Posted to the list but got yelled at for cross-posting. Oops. Still working on getting my meta-learning skills established, organizing data, time management, problem definition, etc. I am hopeful that I will meet a mentor here. 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Is anyone currently running 10.1 on a Thinkpad x230? This seems to be the last in a series of otherwise wonderfully mobile work horses. The x240 now has soldered RAM among other issues. M On 02/03/2015 02:00 PM, freebsd-mobile-request@freebsd.org wrote: > Send freebsd-mobile mailing list submissions to > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freebsd-mobile-request@freebsd.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freebsd-mobile-owner@freebsd.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of freebsd-mobile digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Buying a laptop (Joseph Mingrone) > 2. Re: Buying a laptop - used (Ian Smith) > 3. Introduction (R0B_ROD) > 4. Re: Buying a laptop (Kevin Oberman) > 5. Re: Buying a laptop (Adrian Chadd) > 6. Re: Buying a laptop (Joseph Mingrone) > 7. HP 2B19WM PCI-E SD Reader (R0B_ROD) > 8. Re: Introduction (John-Mark Gurney) > 9. Re: Introduction (R0B_ROD) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:32:47 -0400 > From: Joseph Mingrone > To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Buying a laptop > Message-ID: <86lhkge640.fsf@gly.ftfl.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain > > I also have had mostly positive experience with many Thinkpads. Note I > said Thinkpads and not Lenovos. > > Erich Dollansky writes: >> I use an Lenovo X220 with 10.1 since nearly three years. > > I also have an X220, running a recent 10-STABLE. Pretty much everything > works including wireless with the Intel Centrino Advanced-N > 6205 and suspend and resume. I haven't figured out how to control the > brightness and there is an annoying BIOS (bug/feature). You can't > legacy boot from a GPT-partitioned disk without UEFI. > > Joseph > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 03:50:52 +1100 (EST) > From: Ian Smith > To: parv > Cc: arnab bhowmick , > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Buying a laptop - used > Message-ID: <20150202235524.B14398@sola.nimnet.asn.au> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 21:14:58 -1000, parv wrote: > > in message <20150201154129.J14378@sola.nimnet.asn.au>, > > wrote Ian Smith thusly... > > > > > > > Hi Ian, > > Aloha parv! > > > > On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 04:51:30 -1000, Parv wrote: > > ... > > > > I am currently using a used Lenovo Thinkpad X200 with FreeBSD > > > > 8. I have not tried using or setting at all any suspend-resume > > > > setting. A 9-celll battery ([0], "47++", apparently bought new > > > > about 2-3 years ago along with the 'puter) lasts for 4.5 hours. > > > > > > I bought a used X200 a year ago without AC adaptor or battery, so > > > bought it a new 6-cell battery (47+) and 65W P/S (about AU$150). > > > Using powerd - but not p4tcc or acpi_throttle - it runs almost 6 > > > hours on battery just idling and over 4 hours with moderate use, > > > > Sweet, Ian! Which version of FreeBSD are you running? 8-STABLE is on > > my X200 for now; have been thinking (for a while) to update to > > 10-STABLE. > > Presently 9.3-R sources, GENERIC plus a couple of patches and 9.2-R xorg > and ports; too busy with other projects to update it and it's not broke. > > > > so your 9-cell battery may be getting a bit old, and/or you > > > haven't optimised power usage? > > > > No, I have not used any power related things in FreeBSD itself. I do > > have BIOS setup to maximum performance when connected to AC power; > > optimize battery otherwise. One thing I am not sure is what happens > > when booted up on battery & some time later connect to AC, and vice > > versa. > > Below I'll include a small script that shows what's going on in that > respect. I don't think the BIOS AC/battery performance settings have > any effect at all in FreeBSD, but this script will tell you for sure. > > > In any case I will try powered, and possibly other things. > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption is a good place to > start. Alexander goes to extremes - and doubles battery life - but the > big ones are running powerd to only rev up the CPU/s when needed, and > allowing use of C2 and C3 power states, which work reliably on these. > > In /boot/loader.conf: > > acpi_ibm_load="YES" > hint.p4tcc.0.disabled=1 > hint.acpi_throttle.0.disabled=1 > > This allows EST to run the CPUs at 800, 1600, 2400 & '2401' (turbo) MHz, > where CPU power consumption is fairly proportional to frequency. Using > p4tcc or acpi_throttle provides many more rates down to 100MHz, but they > don't reduce power consumption, make powerd work slower and harder while > shuffling frequency, and are removed as defaults from -CURRENT we hear. > > In /etc/rc.conf: > > performance_cx_lowest=C3 # you can use "Cmax" here, same on X200 > economy_cx_lowest=C3 > powerd_enable="YES" > powerd_flags="-a adp -b adp -i 70 -r 90" > > Those powerd settings are you might say 'non-aggressive', only boosting > speed on fairly high demand. Lots of fun tuning these to your workload. > > > > After a problem that affected many/most modern T and X series > > > Lenovos regarding losing external USB ports on resume was resolved > > > last year, suspend and resume work flawlesly; they're really nice > > > little machines. > > > > Good to hear. Would that be suspend-to-RAM? > > Yes, FreeBSD doesn't do suspend to disk (ACPI state S4) unless BIOS > supports it and none do these days, to my knowledge. I haven't done any > real tests, but suspect the X200 would run for a week in S3 suspend (if > you don't charge your mobile from its USB ports while suspended :) > > > > Arnab may not wish to buy anything as old as an X200 (C.2008), > > > > Oh, I remembered later somebody was running FreeBSD 11 on Macbook > > Pro 2011 ... > > > > http://blog.foxkit.us/2015/01/freebsd-on-apple-macbook-pro-82-now.html?spref=tw > > That and its previous episode are really good posts for Mac people > considering FreeBSD. If my daughter would only let me play with hers :) > > These also needed an ACPI fix mostly affecting HP laptops that's just > been committed to 9 & 10 regarding reporting of AC/battery states etc. > > > > but could likely pick up an X210/220/230, or the larger > > > T410/420/430 models at a good price. > > > > Sure. (I am also looking for another one, this time much lighter > > than X200. Is Thinkpad X1 Carbon II any lighter, I wonder.) > > I expect so. And I expect they may work with 9.x and 10.x by now, > there's been some good ACPI and video stuff MFC'd lately I gather. > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops/Thinkpad_X1_Carbon > > Also - though out of date re Lenovo problems having dead USB on resume: > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/SuspendResume > > > > Very latest models may still have some issues with video? > > > > Well, somebody had reported success|progress with Intel i915 on > > 11-CURRENT (and somebody else had working suspend-resume with > > "recent HEAD" on X230) ... > > > > https://twitter.com/etnapierala/status/561500382850215936 > > I can't keep track of it at all nowadays .. but I don't think you need > to run -CURRENT except perhaps newest laptops with latest chipsets, and > except perhaps for the latest wireless work, lacking helpers to MFC it. > > cheers, Ian > > Oh yes, scripts; I use this one often: > % cat /root/bin/x200stat > #!/bin/sh > t=" " > echo -n "`date` " > sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq > echo "`sysctl -n dev.cpu.0.cx_usage` $t `sysctl -n vm.loadavg`" > echo "`sysctl -n dev.cpu.1.cx_usage` $t { `sysctl -n kern.eventtimer.timer` }" > sysctl dev.acpi_ibm | egrep 'fan_|thermal' > sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature > sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz1.temperature > acpiconf -i0 | egrep 'State|Remain|Present|Volt' > > And also added to /etc/devd.conf > > notify 10 { > match "system" "ACPI"; > match "subsystem" "CMBAT"; > action "/root/bin/acpi_cmbat $notify"; > }; > > % cat /root/bin/acpi_cmbat > #!/bin/sh > #% acpi_cmbat 27/6/14 for CMBAT notifies. from /etc/rc.d/power_profile > LOGGER="logger -t acpi_cmbat -p daemon.notice" > notify=$1 > ${LOGGER} "CMBAT notify = $1" > #% 27/10/14 logs at 3%, 20%, 80% and discharging, high & charging states > /root/bin/x200stat >> /root/acpi_cmbat_events.log > echo "CMBAT status: notify = $1" >> /root/acpi_cmbat_events.log > exit 0 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 12:47:38 -0500 > From: R0B_ROD > To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Subject: Introduction > Message-ID: <54CFB83A.9080106@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hello! > I am merging from Arch Linux, which seems that > they copied BSD a lot. :P > I am excited to be here. I have never been on a mailing list. > My goal is to be a developer of any kind some day. > I am always on my laptop since life has dealt me a bad hand. > Maybe I haven't been very responsible. Who knows? > Trying to do better each day. Looking to make life-long friends. > My spirit is still in the 70's although I am only 30 y/o. > I do feel like I was living in the time and still carry the > 'loving-curious-rebel' attitude. Thanks for reading my ramble. > > r0b-r0d@rama-hkr:~ % uname -a > FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401 > Tue Nov 11 21:0249 UTC 2014 > root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > HP 2B19WM : 4GB RAM : AMD64 E-300 1.4GHz : ATI Radeon 6310HD > > -Roberto Rodriguez Jr. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:09:09 -0800 > From: Kevin Oberman > To: Joseph Mingrone > Cc: "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" > Subject: Re: Buying a laptop > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > >> I also have had mostly positive experience with many Thinkpads. Note I >> said Thinkpads and not Lenovos. >> >> Erich Dollansky writes: >>> I use an Lenovo X220 with 10.1 since nearly three years. >> >> I also have an X220, running a recent 10-STABLE. Pretty much everything >> works including wireless with the Intel Centrino Advanced-N >> 6205 and suspend and resume. I haven't figured out how to control the >> brightness and there is an annoying BIOS (bug/feature). You can't >> legacy boot from a GPT-partitioned disk without UEFI. >> >> Joseph > > > Head was recently fixed so that brightness now works fine. The patch > applies cleanly to 10-stable (and 10.1) if you want to try it. My T520 has > had working brightness since. Yes, it works with the Fn+HOME and Fn+END > keys that are marked as brightness up and down on the keyboard. The patch > is to the ACPI code in dev/drm2/i915.intel_opregion.c, though small changes > were made to a couple of other files to enable access to the new code, > > It's in head as r270516 and Adrian has thus far not MFCed to 10-STABLE. If > it works for you, you might let him know that you would like to see it done. > -- > Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:35:37 -0800 > From: Adrian Chadd > To: Kevin Oberman > Cc: Joseph Mingrone , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" > > Subject: Re: Buying a laptop > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Someone else needs to MFC it, sorry :( > > -a > > > On 2 February 2015 at 10:09, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Joseph Mingrone wrote: >> >>> I also have had mostly positive experience with many Thinkpads. Note I >>> said Thinkpads and not Lenovos. >>> >>> Erich Dollansky writes: >>>> I use an Lenovo X220 with 10.1 since nearly three years. >>> >>> I also have an X220, running a recent 10-STABLE. Pretty much everything >>> works including wireless with the Intel Centrino Advanced-N >>> 6205 and suspend and resume. I haven't figured out how to control the >>> brightness and there is an annoying BIOS (bug/feature). You can't >>> legacy boot from a GPT-partitioned disk without UEFI. >>> >>> Joseph >> >> >> Head was recently fixed so that brightness now works fine. The patch >> applies cleanly to 10-stable (and 10.1) if you want to try it. My T520 has >> had working brightness since. Yes, it works with the Fn+HOME and Fn+END >> keys that are marked as brightness up and down on the keyboard. The patch >> is to the ACPI code in dev/drm2/i915.intel_opregion.c, though small changes >> were made to a couple of other files to enable access to the new code, >> >> It's in head as r270516 and Adrian has thus far not MFCed to 10-STABLE. If >> it works for you, you might let him know that you would like to see it done. >> -- >> Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired >> E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:38:49 -0400 > From: Joseph Mingrone > To: Adrian Chadd > Cc: "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" > Subject: Re: Buying a laptop > Message-ID: <86iofkma4m.fsf@gly.ftfl.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Adrian Chadd writes: >> Someone else needs to MFC it, sorry :( > > Who should I pester? > > P.S. Thanks for fixing this and thanks for pointing out the PR Kevin. > > Joseph > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:39:55 -0500 > From: R0B_ROD > To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org > Subject: HP 2B19WM PCI-E SD Reader > Message-ID: <54CFE09B.3060006@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Thank you for the time you took to help. > > According to: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/ \ > \ freebsd-current/2013-July/042788.html > \ freebsd-questions/2014-August/259843.html > > % uname -a > FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: > Tue Nov 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014 > root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > amd64 > > Is the Realtek RTS5229 PCI-E SD Card Reader > supported yet??? > > I have these kernel drivers compiled & loaded > mmc > mmcsd > sdhci > > As previous posters have said, > NO dmesg output from inserting SD card; > NO boot output while SD card inserted. > > 8 Hrs of work to get here; now I'm burned out. > > PS: Not very talented at solving problems because > I don't define them properly at the step 1. > -- Michael L. Wilson International Project Coordinator PeerCorps Trust Fund - Tanzania From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 3 14:50:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 303C6790 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 14:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.76.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E03C292D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 14:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3839A6A602F; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:50:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t13EoD5c038992; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:50:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id t13EoBgD038664; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:50:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:50:11 +0100 From: Lars Engels To: PeerCorps Trust Fund Subject: Re: freebsd-mobile Digest, Vol 539, Issue 2 Message-ID: <20150203145011.GZ41565@e-new.0x20.net> References: <54D0CA65.10701@peercorpstrust.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8VKnE9k7k7imdYv5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54D0CA65.10701@peercorpstrust.org> X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p23 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 14:50:17 -0000 --8VKnE9k7k7imdYv5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 03:17:25PM +0200, PeerCorps Trust Fund wrote: > Very helpful conversation taking place here. >=20 > Is anyone currently running 10.1 on a Thinkpad x230? This seems to be > the last in a series of otherwise wonderfully mobile work horses. The > x240 now has soldered RAM among other issues. >=20 > M There are several people happily running FreeBSD 10.x or HEAD on the X230 including me. --8VKnE9k7k7imdYv5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJU0OAjXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4RjQwMDE3RTRERjUzMTI1N0FGRTUxNDlF NTRDQjM3RDNBMDg5RDZEAAoJEOVMs306CJ1tjBQH/jB7Ip8YRCfqOgaKfGC0j85B THrSk497q9dE8yEg2rjdeaq7WAk3gj6oY9y8eX7F27ShJ4PhhJdRnI+VrDeNUiny 7d/yymVS/s9bDHGj/gk1JeVoIc8Vj7IF/CuKQl+DZSeEcMz4oVr92Eoiqnq3eDvv yHlGTVw/txPcw1t/lqonLTx+Fzg9l97LG0E4jaP29QHPYPdxIiEoqGynwAaptQ1B 0SE09Oa7008YgklQi7YdNfgKD3eEYDSZr/IW7ppZIYp3sOjPOHKYWBWGetkkk5Lh SnIaxwWW5ACu7NhhCFv+tUZDDSDPhPRGqY6iTtskMRqQNIdocL3eDMHv+JUJxZY= =VCDF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8VKnE9k7k7imdYv5-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 4 00:04:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72D83D78; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 00:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw12.york.ac.uk (mail-gw12.york.ac.uk [144.32.129.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39E3B39D; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 00:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ury.york.ac.uk ([144.32.64.162]:30694) by mail-gw12.york.ac.uk with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YInS9-0004sG-FK; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 00:04:21 +0000 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 00:04:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Gavin Atkinson X-X-Sender: gavin@ury.york.ac.uk To: R0B_ROD Subject: Re: HP 2B19WM PCI-E SD Reader In-Reply-To: <54CFE09B.3060006@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <54CFE09B.3060006@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 00:04:29 -0000 On Mon, 2 Feb 2015, R0B_ROD wrote: > Thank you for the time you took to help. > > According to: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/ \ > \ freebsd-current/2013-July/042788.html > \ freebsd-questions/2014-August/259843.html > > Is the Realtek RTS5229 PCI-E SD Card Reader > supported yet??? Unfortunately, we don't have a driver for this card reader yet. It is worth checking to make sure that you do indeed have this drvice though. Can you give the output of both "pciconf -lv" and "usbconfig list" please? 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[71.226.13.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t36sm136624qgt.31.2015.02.03.16.23.30 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:23:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54D1668B.705@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 19:23:39 -0500 From: R0B_ROD User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gavin Atkinson , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP 2B19WM PCI-E SD Reader References: <54CFE09B.3060006@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 00:23:32 -0000 On 02/03/2015 07:04 PM, Gavin Atkinson wrote: > Can you give the output of both "pciconf -lv" and "usbconfig list" please? > Thanks ------ % pciconf -lv | tail -3 none1@pci0:8:0:0: class=0xff0000 card=0x188b103c chip=0x522910ec rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor CO., Ltd.' device = 'RTS5229 PCI Express Card Reader' % usbconfig list ugen0.1: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA) ugen1.1: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA) ugen2.1: at usbus2, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA) ugen3.1: at usbus3, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA) ugen3.2: at usbus3, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (480Mbps) pwr=ON (500mA) ------ My laptop is currently building ports so I typed this in manual. I checked for mistakes. -- > Roberto > ^ > /"\ / 33.2947° N, 82.2006° W > \ / ASCII REBEL CAMPAIGN / (1) 4044743997 > -X- AGAINST HTML EMAIL / witchdoctor.mdf at gmail.COM > / \ AND POSTINGS / http://mdf0.blogspot.com > \_/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 4 07:28:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9B528CC for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 07:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server210.webhostingpad.com (server210.webhostingpad.com [69.65.33.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0EE7783 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 07:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 87-92-229-32.bb.dnainternet.fi ([87.92.229.32]:52477 helo=[192.168.1.106]) by server210.webhostingpad.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YIuNW-0005ri-DZ; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 01:28:02 -0600 Message-ID: <54D1C9FF.6030905@peercorpstrust.org> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:27:59 +0200 From: PeerCorps Trust Fund Organization: PeerCorps Trust Fund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Engels Subject: Re: freebsd-mobile Digest, Vol 539, Issue 2 References: <54D0CA65.10701@peercorpstrust.org> <20150203145011.GZ41565@e-new.0x20.net> In-Reply-To: <20150203145011.GZ41565@e-new.0x20.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server210.webhostingpad.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - peercorpstrust.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: server210.webhostingpad.com: authenticated_id: ipc@peercorpstrust.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 07:28:05 -0000 Hi Lars, Would you mind sharing what you are using for your powerd settings? On 02/03/2015 04:50 PM, Lars Engels wrote: > On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 03:17:25PM +0200, PeerCorps Trust Fund wrote: >> Very helpful conversation taking place here. >> >> Is anyone currently running 10.1 on a Thinkpad x230? This seems to be >> the last in a series of otherwise wonderfully mobile work horses. The >> x240 now has soldered RAM among other issues. >> >> M > > There are several people happily running FreeBSD 10.x or HEAD on the > X230 including me. > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 4 09:06:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0B4FAB2; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 09:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.76.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 658B1135; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 09:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 212BA6A6050; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:06:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t1496HXS095055; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:06:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id t1496H5b094310; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:06:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:06:17 +0100 From: Lars Engels To: Gavin Atkinson Subject: Re: HP 2B19WM PCI-E SD Reader Message-ID: <20150204090617.GC41565@e-new.0x20.net> Mail-Followup-To: Lars Engels , Gavin Atkinson , R0B_ROD , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <54CFE09B.3060006@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xShVoZav8KYWC5Dk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p23 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, R0B_ROD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:06:21 -0000 --xShVoZav8KYWC5Dk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 12:04:21AM +0000, Gavin Atkinson wrote: > On Mon, 2 Feb 2015, R0B_ROD wrote: > > Thank you for the time you took to help. > >=20 > > According to: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/ \ > > \ freebsd-current/2013-July/042788.html > > \ freebsd-questions/2014-August/259843.html > >=20 > > Is the Realtek RTS5229 PCI-E SD Card Reader > > supported yet??? >=20 > Unfortunately, we don't have a driver for this card reader yet. It is=20 > worth checking to make sure that you do indeed have this drvice though. = =20 > Can you give the output of both "pciconf -lv" and "usbconfig list" please? >=20 Wouldn't it be possible to pass the PCI device to a bhyve VM running Linux like Shawn did here with his wireless card? http://0xfeedface.org/2014/12/11/FreeBSD-Intel-wifi-via-bhyve.html And then share the Filesystem with CIFS or NFS... :) --xShVoZav8KYWC5Dk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJU0eEIXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4RjQwMDE3RTRERjUzMTI1N0FGRTUxNDlF NTRDQjM3RDNBMDg5RDZEAAoJEOVMs306CJ1tQiMIALmOyLNU/Vj2bSMaL44URKU0 m44+deG4MuBZrNpLqzf5AdLU2MIJCr63XDalN9j1xAcq3oLsiFPatbyWvO325mgY S/rouPbNra0uMgr+GBWrjmlvuZR5Gau+KwGr1bg3d+N6+SazUohV94GVpCtSNeV2 z1aJaE2EuFFYtH7wYqJRkRG3TzUJ8lzq/PSYibF3h4710ukLBR4xWvFUFXBTrS32 3g2oqIh2OLFC0xEKpgc43tBgWHUm5QEi0tXkxmK0JYX10y65w+0DTovt4PEP80Q+ kLUMd2ge5vgJdYNPhw/maMuIZwqlXKxg4PBNEumlcNToN/1ty+dNxNFHJ0lsI+E= =dyUE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xShVoZav8KYWC5Dk-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 4 09:08:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0E05D54 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 09:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.76.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7EAD1B9 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 09:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D95B6A6050; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:08:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t1498nt5045644; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:08:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id t1498mTp045415; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:08:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:08:48 +0100 From: Lars Engels To: PeerCorps Trust Fund Subject: Re: freebsd-mobile Digest, Vol 539, Issue 2 Message-ID: <20150204090848.GD41565@e-new.0x20.net> References: <54D0CA65.10701@peercorpstrust.org> <20150203145011.GZ41565@e-new.0x20.net> <54D1C9FF.6030905@peercorpstrust.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SbbROFN+SMqu6LKU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54D1C9FF.6030905@peercorpstrust.org> X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p23 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:08:52 -0000 --SbbROFN+SMqu6LKU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:27:59AM +0200, PeerCorps Trust Fund wrote: > Hi Lars, >=20 > Would you mind sharing what you are using for your powerd settings? Sure. I followed the power saving tips from https://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption and additionally run powerd with=20 powerd_flags=3D"-a hiadaptive -b hiadaptive" Lars --SbbROFN+SMqu6LKU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJU0eGgXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4RjQwMDE3RTRERjUzMTI1N0FGRTUxNDlF NTRDQjM3RDNBMDg5RDZEAAoJEOVMs306CJ1t3+0H/0YzfgUaRvugocHvmw+UG9x3 uPf3nQDcmjh4X9YY7j0Wbj/a0/xH1CsH4eVWXIeHaM+h9rdP07D9s1rbSHLkH9gg fL0CNnDCMg3a+iz5K83Q8ur87qtLmQhsiPspifXwxT7rrh29EQPVxWI7oVWlV74a X/U2XRb7j2eUx7uNizONMmFih4Mdv1h0gEKXcfCC70bg88CgFO5NVkrlaF+vKOwt xOU9BMwuB+2eDIx+Wr6DNZR8OrHVVfZhYNcwBq0kQxJqh50lddd8qPRkIhf9f7+P oWf7wZ4TQ//cSXjZT7r80W/L6Z0E2vLGfU44kODnWTjYuNNQYg0TTHCTo1w0PcY= =m5ZR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SbbROFN+SMqu6LKU-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 4 12:06:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 958AB77A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 12:06:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 133C3A4D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 12:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id t14C6U3e025753; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 23:06:31 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 23:06:30 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Lars Engels Subject: Re: freebsd-mobile Digest, Vol 539, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <20150204090848.GD41565@e-new.0x20.net> Message-ID: <20150204225220.K38620@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <54D0CA65.10701@peercorpstrust.org> <20150203145011.GZ41565@e-new.0x20.net> <54D1C9FF.6030905@peercorpstrust.org> <20150204090848.GD41565@e-new.0x20.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, PeerCorps Trust Fund X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 12:06:55 -0000 On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:08:48 +0100, Lars Engels wrote: > On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:27:59AM +0200, PeerCorps Trust Fund wrote: > > Hi Lars, > > > > Would you mind sharing what you are using for your powerd settings? > > Sure. I followed the power saving tips from > https://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption > and additionally run powerd with > > powerd_flags="-a hiadaptive -b hiadaptive" Lars, are you running that with p4tcc and acpi_throttle both disabled? That is, what says `sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq_levels`? On my X200 it's '2401/35000 2400/35000 1600/15000 800/12000' and I found hiadaptive rather aggressive, where adaptive works fine for my use - but of course everybody's use is different :) powerd_flags="-a adp -b adp -i 70 -r 90" cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 4 15:34:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE880DA5 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-f46.google.com (mail-pa0-f46.google.com [209.85.220.46]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EFB2882 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id lj1so3430354pab.5 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 07:34:40 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=VEZSGsgjnuxjc207CBMwAZaleRryIHlvf5AloF4s91M=; b=JNIJZRXUl8C8Ezxuec0fy/sWSuxVKiBAECx3fcVnhkYx+oq24WZ2qd59BrqkMkw1cU +8tVwD/OajZ+dZB2ogipmMUwhrtbmp4tNvdcwZpqexmMox6wUQJ7WRBiU1/l2REfraqY K2m53vgnm1xEGSQ1DdaYZ+LNa9tNzkPGdwdQ4E+sx7Q+10/n3qQe/8d3xOFA1cgli9DQ FsTa2kJYhDAmDVI0pKK+p8B8s5ZcUPa/p2N0Ah6QS3CyaD/pCgPOSXccFBGrn7bu8w4a U2bL1GvMz92WohEqyZUb4BTnrEpTRDBi1PlSuZoVX1ETq3+AuV7bIzPoJ2aXoc/FUiej qofg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn9j/ZnEaXN9R/OCilYDh3GS/f041/CO4Tld4+vKpemZtEBzyNSlFSfGtf4lsI6hUfUb06F X-Received: by 10.68.106.226 with SMTP id gx2mr37956279pbb.78.1423064080289; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 07:34:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.64.26.90] ([69.53.236.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o3sm2400898pde.7.2015.02.04.07.34.38 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Feb 2015 07:34:39 -0800 (PST) Sender: Warner Losh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Subject: Re: freebsd-mobile Digest, Vol 539, Issue 2 From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20150204225220.K38620@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 08:34:37 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <54D0CA65.10701@peercorpstrust.org> <20150203145011.GZ41565@e-new.0x20.net> <54D1C9FF.6030905@peercorpstrust.org> <20150204090848.GD41565@e-new.0x20.net> <20150204225220.K38620@sola.nimnet.asn.au> To: Ian Smith X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) Cc: PeerCorps Trust Fund , Lars Engels , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:34:46 -0000 > On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:06 AM, Ian Smith wrote: >=20 > On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:08:48 +0100, Lars Engels wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:27:59AM +0200, PeerCorps Trust Fund wrote: >>> Hi Lars, >>>=20 >>> Would you mind sharing what you are using for your powerd settings? >>=20 >> Sure. I followed the power saving tips from >> https://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption >> and additionally run powerd with=20 >>=20 >> powerd_flags=3D"-a hiadaptive -b hiadaptive" >=20 > Lars, are you running that with p4tcc and acpi_throttle both disabled? >=20 > That is, what says `sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq_levels`? >=20 > On my X200 it's '2401/35000 2400/35000 1600/15000 800/12000' and I = found=20 > hiadaptive rather aggressive, where adaptive works fine for my use - = but=20 > of course everybody's use is different :) >=20 > powerd_flags=3D"-a adp -b adp -i 70 -r 90" The X+1 number (in this case 2401) is the turbo-mode speed. If you use = X, it disables the Turbo mode which causes the CPU to run faster until it gets too hot. = On my T400, I found that if I limit powerd to X instead of X+1, I have fewer heat = related issues when I=E2=80=99m doing things like building a kernel=E2=80=A6 Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 4 16:21:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D11C7C17; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 16:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x22d.google.com (mail-ie0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97133E15; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 16:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id tr6so3205002ieb.4; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 08:21:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=723QR4N+y119zyJhmGNLWWNDee9gXe3dNHwZGA/xIVY=; b=bMRmbC5+ptewDeSOhINC6GBjLXUhGoIy7pTYsJD7yM8N0cj56l4n6vHiPBl/Zv690T 5rQwOtNsZwckLWHFizbwtw92hefvjUI6yNedrLwQ5j82KNtLI0a8OXf3sJGeyocOTZ1f wV1BdbdGrkhhzOKMiGqm6HRwWF+4GnMz3SskDfsRFfKuY4fBsEIInPA6laGjVT35OTZS 5BFlFQBTem0U09u+INsRtIb7zU5hnxoMOT+0z4og7Yw96r4CoUCwm2RC723LPNiR913j T/X3HIksrdkR6SyOYjyLSup5aXh45K368cYcHaTcInFbtpPjNF46Gw72JfkD4FXi2Y2u +Ikw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.43.201 with SMTP id y9mr3066201igl.6.1423066904999; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 08:21:44 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.36.17.7 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 08:21:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20150204090617.GC41565@e-new.0x20.net> References: <54CFE09B.3060006@gmail.com> <20150204090617.GC41565@e-new.0x20.net> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 08:21:44 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Am0eft8_jBF0tBY56ZH7lJrRdzg Message-ID: Subject: Re: HP 2B19WM PCI-E SD Reader From: Adrian Chadd To: Lars Engels , Gavin Atkinson , R0B_ROD , freebsd-current , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:21:45 -0000 ... god, people go through a lot of work to not have to write a wifi driver. :) -a On 4 February 2015 at 01:06, Lars Engels wrote: > On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 12:04:21AM +0000, Gavin Atkinson wrote: >> On Mon, 2 Feb 2015, R0B_ROD wrote: >> > Thank you for the time you took to help. >> > >> > According to: >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/ \ >> > \ freebsd-current/2013-July/042788.html >> > \ freebsd-questions/2014-August/259843.html >> > >> > Is the Realtek RTS5229 PCI-E SD Card Reader >> > supported yet??? >> >> Unfortunately, we don't have a driver for this card reader yet. It is >> worth checking to make sure that you do indeed have this drvice though. >> Can you give the output of both "pciconf -lv" and "usbconfig list" please? >> > > Wouldn't it be possible to pass the PCI device to a bhyve VM running > Linux like Shawn did here with his wireless card? > http://0xfeedface.org/2014/12/11/FreeBSD-Intel-wifi-via-bhyve.html > > And then share the Filesystem with CIFS or NFS... :) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 5 01:40:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFD156A5; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 01:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (pancho.soaustin.net [76.74.250.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE295AAF; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 01:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id F3F545607B; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 19:40:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 19:40:16 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: HP 2B19WM PCI-E SD Reader Message-ID: <20150205014016.GA12219@lonesome.com> References: <54CFE09B.3060006@gmail.com> <20150204090617.GC41565@e-new.0x20.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Gavin Atkinson , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" , Lars Engels , freebsd-current , R0B_ROD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 01:40:18 -0000 On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 08:21:44AM -0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: > ... god, people go through a lot of work to not have to write a wifi driver. :) we're just concerned about you... ...r sanity. mcl From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 5 03:21:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6112BA51; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 03:21:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x233.google.com (mail-qc0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BB607CF; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 03:21:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f179.google.com with SMTP id w7so4667138qcr.10; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:21:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DLvNw0oJ1LLwnfuaU1MVhXTRuakeUx0CYOhVbDSpWVs=; b=KjeUIXvLKHjG/WfCG0nCg9OKA8ClhKuhMV68y2O2Im3VQJnDU7UrOd4052u9z3LT11 YSsgg+2mav/zguGUks7NUrrxBvHBoe6YGrShUj6qHV1cs08QWpxUtEA2iwc68kjZ897s PMfuv07OPiXvF8vtZjMvTWuKA8/PFu56z9X3OFTQXzvW8h7tcZLK7PFw1aLY2i/2d+wN kTX5gn+8w3xrHaw/TCFH/XpPDwBZhx3niqVN1Xfhfh2FJs3aMvuxFogICimTjvnaMLk2 Ihc4cdJ3lPjKqu2lbL3XnjYmtsJtXUGZfN8X8L3UvzgYne6wRaq5DEH2jGoym2Fd2pwF Jnhw== X-Received: by 10.224.97.72 with SMTP id k8mr3895022qan.52.1423106476203; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.15.4] (c-71-226-13-107.hsd1.ga.comcast.net. [71.226.13.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q10sm3721328qaq.9.2015.02.04.19.21.14 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:21:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54D2E1B7.3080004@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 22:21:27 -0500 From: R0B_ROD User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Linimon Subject: Re: HP 2B19WM PCI-E SD Reader References: <54CFE09B.3060006@gmail.com> <20150204090617.GC41565@e-new.0x20.net> <20150205014016.GA12219@lonesome.com> In-Reply-To: <20150205014016.GA12219@lonesome.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Gavin Atkinson , Lars Engels , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 03:21:17 -0000 On 02/04/2015 08:40 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 08:21:44AM -0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: >> ... god, people go through a lot of work to not have to write a wifi driver. :) > > we're just concerned about you... > > ...r sanity. > > mcl > The idea is nice for me. I can't wait to install Arch Linux in an img for bhyve. I wish I could know how to build that driver for my SD card reader, but by the time I do maybe someone else would have beat me to it. And they have beat me. The driver is made for OpenBSD. Now how to install it in FreeBSD, (port it?) is beyond me. I truly wish I knew x86_64/ARM Assembly, C/C++, Perl, Python, Emacs, Haskell and Common Lisp. Dreams since I was 14 yrs old. None are even started. -- > Roberto > ^ > /"\ / 33.2947° N, 82.2006° W > \ / ASCII REBEL CAMPAIGN / (1) 4044743997 > -X- AGAINST HTML EMAIL / witchdoctor.mdf at gmail.COM > / \ AND POSTINGS / http://mdf0.blogspot.com > \_/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 5 22:55:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9E9E1A3 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 22:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server210.webhostingpad.com (server210.webhostingpad.com [69.65.33.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F5A3B3B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 22:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 87-92-229-32.bb.dnainternet.fi ([87.92.229.32]:8833 helo=[192.168.1.106]) by server210.webhostingpad.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YJVK1-00362Z-72; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:54:53 -0600 Message-ID: <54D3F4BA.9050508@peercorpstrust.org> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 00:54:50 +0200 From: PeerCorps Trust Fund Organization: PeerCorps Trust Fund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith , Lars Engels Subject: Re: freebsd-mobile Digest, Vol 539, Issue 2 References: <54D0CA65.10701@peercorpstrust.org> <20150203145011.GZ41565@e-new.0x20.net> <54D1C9FF.6030905@peercorpstrust.org> <20150204090848.GD41565@e-new.0x20.net> <20150204225220.K38620@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20150204225220.K38620@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server210.webhostingpad.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - peercorpstrust.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: server210.webhostingpad.com: authenticated_id: ipc@peercorpstrust.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 22:55:01 -0000 Hi Lars, Ian, Might either of you (or anyone else) have an idea about how to turn the touchpad on the x230 completely OFF? I prefer the finger mouse and the touchpad just gets in the way. Much of what I've read in the manual and on the web seems to be outdated and revolves around configuring xorg. Is it a matter of adding hw.psm.synaptics_support="0" to /boot/loader.conf? On a related note, is there a way to set the following options at boot? # kldload acpi_ibm # kldload acpi_call # acpi_call -p '\VBRC' -i 7 M On 02/04/15 14:06, Ian Smith wrote: > On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:08:48 +0100, Lars Engels wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:27:59AM +0200, PeerCorps Trust Fund wrote: > > > Hi Lars, > > > > > > Would you mind sharing what you are using for your powerd settings? > > > > Sure. I followed the power saving tips from > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption > > and additionally run powerd with > > > > powerd_flags="-a hiadaptive -b hiadaptive" > > Lars, are you running that with p4tcc and acpi_throttle both disabled? > > That is, what says `sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq_levels`? > > On my X200 it's '2401/35000 2400/35000 1600/15000 800/12000' and I found > hiadaptive rather aggressive, where adaptive works fine for my use - but > of course everybody's use is different :) > > powerd_flags="-a adp -b adp -i 70 -r 90" > > cheers, Ian > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 6 05:04:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B11B6C8 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 05:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x235.google.com (mail-pa0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13B43384 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 05:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id lf10so7241384pab.12 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 21:04:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=EBD8qjuN8h2+txzvTKynHk3xpOVhYJABy0wgFo4MWPI=; b=tCUu8pxUQNPdDDpBQOCkui6en72nLKh3F+HRXP/51T8gaUuvu4iNfyXsUi4VOE/K95 R4P/p6QV4+2ObGkJFtaR9f46sjHkG1irrTnlmamxPr30EKhZoAkj2ZnlTn21/b7O3cdA rixm1oWMIE65MtUdr5UwVD1cd4MRqNr2FAMQQ7q1unpenUADfK25GYI0HrQtbbbOgQ6M xmLpjasjfGuBSPeqP42zKqdSmBAi3MORku0dNVRXwUQP1jmUg2+KvCPpmp/GAn7Xel+R 6Lm2cXOm7HV7s436JPfjHaVse+G9OFh2bvSBaNXcXp0tfk/vrjZmmPe9tAllfgTPOk9f 5M8g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.70.14.229 with SMTP id s5mr2786062pdc.143.1423199052593; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 21:04:12 -0800 (PST) Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.67.22.231 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 21:04:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54D3F4BA.9050508@peercorpstrust.org> References: <54D0CA65.10701@peercorpstrust.org> <20150203145011.GZ41565@e-new.0x20.net> <54D1C9FF.6030905@peercorpstrust.org> <20150204090848.GD41565@e-new.0x20.net> <20150204225220.K38620@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <54D3F4BA.9050508@peercorpstrust.org> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 21:04:12 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LM5938HNCZZbGepUuSRG8BN3Vd8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-mobile Digest, Vol 539, Issue 2 From: Kevin Oberman To: PeerCorps Trust Fund Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" , Ian Smith , Lars Engels X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 05:04:13 -0000 On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:54 PM, PeerCorps Trust Fund wrote: > Hi Lars, Ian, > > Might either of you (or anyone else) have an idea about how to turn the > touchpad on the x230 completely OFF? I prefer the finger mouse and the > touchpad just gets in the way. Much of what I've read in the manual and on > the web seems to be outdated and revolves around configuring xorg. Is it a > matter of adding hw.psm.synaptics_support="0" to /boot/loader.conf? > > On a related note, is there a way to set the following options at boot? > > # kldload acpi_ibm > # kldload acpi_call > # acpi_call -p '\VBRC' -i 7 > > M > > Is disabling the TouchPad no longer accessible in the BIOS setup? It's been on every X and T I have run into since IBM stopped using a proprietary Windows tool to touch BIOS configuration instead of the normal F1 at boot time. I found it there on my T520, one generation older than the X230, I believe. If I recall correctly, "acpi_call -p '\VBRC' -i 7" sets the brightness. You can load the modules by entering them in /boot/loader.conf, e.g. "acpi_ibm_load="YES"". The acpi_call can be added to init, but is probably not essential any more as brightness now works in head and the patch works fine on 10. You will need to patch the system, but then the brightness buttons as well as the hw.acpi.video.lcd0 values to set brightness on battery and AC. The patches are to /usr/src/dev/drm2/i915/ Look for the patches in /usr/src/sys/dev/drm2/i915/intel_opregion.c, i915_drv.h, and i915_irq.c and were committed to head in r270516. The author (adrian@) has declined to MFC, but has stated that someone else can. I'm hoping someone will. -- Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 6 09:49:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEB55E2D for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 606383A7 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id t169nGNQ019115; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 20:49:16 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 20:49:16 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Warner Losh Subject: Re: freebsd-mobile Digest, Vol 539, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20150206201100.X38620@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <54D0CA65.10701@peercorpstrust.org> <20150203145011.GZ41565@e-new.0x20.net> <54D1C9FF.6030905@peercorpstrust.org> <20150204090848.GD41565@e-new.0x20.net> <20150204225220.K38620@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: PeerCorps Trust Fund , Lars Engels , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 09:49:53 -0000 On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 08:34:37 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:06 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > > > On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:08:48 +0100, Lars Engels wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:27:59AM +0200, PeerCorps Trust Fund wrote: > >>> Hi Lars, > >>> > >>> Would you mind sharing what you are using for your powerd settings? > >> > >> Sure. I followed the power saving tips from > >> https://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption > >> and additionally run powerd with > >> > >> powerd_flags="-a hiadaptive -b hiadaptive" > > > > Lars, are you running that with p4tcc and acpi_throttle both disabled? > > > > That is, what says `sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq_levels`? > > > > On my X200 it's '2401/35000 2400/35000 1600/15000 800/12000' and I found > > hiadaptive rather aggressive, where adaptive works fine for my use - but > > of course everybody's use is different :) > > > > powerd_flags="-a adp -b adp -i 70 -r 90" > > The X+1 number (in this case 2401) is the turbo-mode speed. If you use X, it disables > the Turbo mode which causes the CPU to run faster until it gets too hot. On my T400, I > found that if I limit powerd to X instead of X+1, I have fewer heat related issues when > Iÿÿm doing things like building a kernelÿÿ That's very interesting. I trolled through (9.3-R) /sys/ looking for mentions of (-i) 'turbo' and after excluding all the ieee80211, ath and assorted other non-CPU stuff, found nothing relevant, except perhaps(?): /sys/dev/hwpmc/pmc_events.h:__PMC_EV_ALIAS("TURBO_MODE.CORE_0", UCP_EVENT_84H_01H) /sys/dev/hwpmc/pmc_events.h:__PMC_EV_ALIAS("TURBO_MODE.CORE_1", UCP_EVENT_84H_02H) /sys/dev/hwpmc/pmc_events.h:__PMC_EV_ALIAS("TURBO_MODE.CORE_2", UCP_EVENT_84H_04H) /sys/dev/hwpmc/pmc_events.h:__PMC_EV_ALIAS("TURBO_MODE.CORE_3", UCP_EVENT_84H_08H) (which are only listed under Haswell, this one being Core2 Duo) /sys/{i386,amd64}/include/specialreg.h:#define CPUTPM1_TURBO 0x00000002 (which are: * Important bits in the Thermal and Power Management flags * CPUID.6 EAX and ECX.) So where can I find out some more about this? I'd have thought cpufreq? Or maybe this is only in 10.x, or head? On my X200, running 2 x 'dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/null &' gets both cores busy enough, but - with ambient about 28C - I can't drive it over 79C (at 2401) after 15 min; way below hw.acpi.thermal.tz1._PSV: 91.5C last pid: 53384; load averages: 1.89, 1.76, 1.41 up 83+18:22:30 14:34:44 233 processes: 6 running, 205 sleeping, 22 waiting CPU 0: 1.7% user, 0.1% nice, 98.3% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle CPU 1: 1.4% user, 0.0% nice, 98.1% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.5% idle root@x200:~ # x200stat Fri Feb 6 14:34:58 EST 2015 dev.cpu.0.freq: 2401 0.03% 1.22% 98.74% last 194us { 1.77 1.74 1.41 } 0.36% 0.82% 98.80% last 2us { HPET } dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: 3762 dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: 0 dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 79 45 -1 69 34 -1 32 -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 79.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz1.temperature: 76.0C So I suspect -M 2400 won't help here (but I'll test it anyway, to try determining how much faster 2401 does some fixed task like a long dd) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 7 15:33:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BA9BD4F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 15:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5D3D5EA for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 15:33:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C06E16A6052; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 16:33:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t17FXmT0099445; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 16:33:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id t17FXiwS097132; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 16:33:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 16:33:44 +0100 From: Lars Engels To: Kevin Oberman Subject: Re: freebsd-mobile Digest, Vol 539, Issue 2 Message-ID: <20150207153344.GC65009@e-new.0x20.net> References: <54D0CA65.10701@peercorpstrust.org> <20150203145011.GZ41565@e-new.0x20.net> <54D1C9FF.6030905@peercorpstrust.org> <20150204090848.GD41565@e-new.0x20.net> <20150204225220.K38620@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <54D3F4BA.9050508@peercorpstrust.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="s9fJI615cBHmzTOP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p23 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" , Ian Smith , PeerCorps Trust Fund X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 15:33:53 -0000 --s9fJI615cBHmzTOP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 09:04:12PM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:54 PM, PeerCorps Trust Fund > wrote: >=20 > > Hi Lars, Ian, > > > > Might either of you (or anyone else) have an idea about how to turn the > > touchpad on the x230 completely OFF? I prefer the finger mouse and the > > touchpad just gets in the way. Much of what I've read in the manual and= on > > the web seems to be outdated and revolves around configuring xorg. Is i= t a > > matter of adding hw.psm.synaptics_support=3D"0" to /boot/loader.conf? > > > > On a related note, is there a way to set the following options at boot? > > > > # kldload acpi_ibm > > # kldload acpi_call > > # acpi_call -p '\VBRC' -i 7 > > > > M > > > > > Is disabling the TouchPad no longer accessible in the BIOS setup? It's be= en > on every X and T I have run into since IBM stopped using a proprietary > Windows tool to touch BIOS configuration instead of the normal F1 at boot > time. I found it there on my T520, one generation older than the X230, I > believe. I disabled the touchpad of my X230 in the BIOS. >=20 > If I recall correctly, "acpi_call -p '\VBRC' -i 7" sets the brightness. Y= ou > can load the modules by entering them in /boot/loader.conf, e.g. > "acpi_ibm_load=3D"YES"". I'd rather load this from rc.conf, as it is _much_ faster to load kernel modules after the kernel is loaded. Just add "acpi_ibm acpi_call" to kld_list=3D"" in rc.conf. If you don't have that variable set, you can also run: sysrc kld_list=3D"acpi_ibm acpi_call" >=20 > The acpi_call can be added to init, but is probably not essential any more > as brightness now works in head and the patch works fine on 10. You will > need to patch the system, but then the brightness buttons as well as the > hw.acpi.video.lcd0 values to set brightness on battery and AC. The patches > are to /usr/src/dev/drm2/i915/ Look for the patches in > /usr/src/sys/dev/drm2/i915/intel_opregion.c, i915_drv.h, and i915_irq.c a= nd > were committed to head in r270516. >=20 > The author (adrian@) has declined to MFC, but has stated that someone else > can. I'm hoping someone will. > -- > Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 --s9fJI615cBHmzTOP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJU1jBXXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4RjQwMDE3RTRERjUzMTI1N0FGRTUxNDlF NTRDQjM3RDNBMDg5RDZEAAoJEOVMs306CJ1tPeEIAIQwm8MS3g/soiTideumwEAy YlUy33YGddRLPaXtB9IvdCt7dv+y9C23ii30mqvBMmuBgPoV14vSgcx5C31F8Z7V vpk1HnNpDOdA9WEoz8RRG8zpneQCS2eCMCwY0ZnB9m1r8OxDUAzR1sAEZTVgPd8O 70XsxuJWtWUok5iSX9p3pFMmuvu8OFRefUHN1yawRpgtDv4zxB6PP+r1vvrSZGHH d0Ct3ZWpwcf0umG3s1Iz6C0FPYIUJyvgS6pPD/QKgBWfp1NiZJAdfcQBkFrU9tYh 8hnWA7OcmznPdssk6GftKbW0Ezulg8aEmJrLKjH+R4tn2aLSBQckbDNoOGJGXf8= =g3S9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --s9fJI615cBHmzTOP--