From owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Sun Jul 24 00:40:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B00B9837A for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4181EE8 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DCA17B98379; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: chat@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4FBB98378 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from www.lemis.com (www.lemis.com [208.86.226.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1641EE7; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from eureka.lemis.com (www.lemis.com [208.86.226.86]) by www.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1CE1B72802; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:31:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eureka.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CC4244948D; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 10:31:15 +1000 (AEST) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 10:31:15 +1000 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Cc: Pedro Giffuni , chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: What Larry McVoy (bitkeeper) got wrong .... Message-ID: <20160724003115.GY78278@eureka.lemis.com> References: <44e4450e-8dbb-f401-bd5c-df503f7a4ef8@FreeBSD.org> <868twsqn1a.fsf@desk.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vS2hnRoLMmJ4tslQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <868twsqn1a.fsf@desk.des.no> Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-3-5346-1370, +61-3-5309-0418 Mobile: 0401 265 606. Use only as instructed. WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:40:12 -0000 --vS2hnRoLMmJ4tslQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday, 23 July 2016 at 19:31:13 +0200, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > Pedro Giffuni writes: >> I was in the process of preparing a port of bitkeeper and I found this: >> >> https://github.com/bitkeeper-scm/bitkeeper >> >> "The BitKeeper history needs to be written up but the short version is >> that it happened because Larry wanted to help Linux not turn into a >> bunch of splintered factions like 386BSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, >> DragonFlyBSD, etc. He saw that the problem was one of tooling. ..." > > This may be poorly written, but what they're trying to say is that there > was a serious risk of someone forking Linux solely because they were > tired of the Linus bottleneck, and a DVCS would help avoid that. That's > not particularly shocking. I'm left wondering about the accuracy of the statement, though. I didn't think that this was the reason lm wrote Bitkeeper. I contacted him, but he wasn't much help. > Here's a real gem, though: "They stayed in it for three more years > before moving to Git because BitKeeper wasn't open source." Because > clearly, McVoy throwing a hissy fit and revoking their license had > nothing to do with it. I think this is a nice way of glossing over the ugly facts. I don't see that it's wrong. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger grog@FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA --vS2hnRoLMmJ4tslQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAleUDFMACgkQIubykFB6QiOtugCfWhgEBsWZTALvqqrLQRWOxGJG 7+AAn3fFKMhCgGerk2V1L8L/nNXCjBAP =MnTx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vS2hnRoLMmJ4tslQ--