From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Apr 14 21:03:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA15706 for chat-outgoing; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 21:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.io.org (post.io.org [198.133.36.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA15690 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 21:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zap.io.org (taob@zap.io.org [198.133.36.81]) by post.io.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA24853; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 00:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 00:02:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao To: Jon Tombs cc: Gerard Roudier , linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, FREEBSD-CHAT-L Subject: Re: Unices are created equal, but ... In-Reply-To: <9604142231.AA22327@gte.esi.us.es> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Apr 1996, Jon Tombs wrote: > > Who cares? linux is such a better name compared with *BSD*. I dunno, I feel like I have to hug a security blankie and suck my thumb every time I use our lone Linux box... ;-) (discussion moved to freebsd-chat) -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org) Systems and Network Administrator, Internex Online Inc. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Apr 15 11:41:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA20394 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 11:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kitty.oester.com (kitty.oester.com [206.25.136.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20380 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 11:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kitty.oester.com by kitty.oester.com (8.7.3/1.37) id SAA00485; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 18:41:38 GMT Message-Id: <199604151841.SAA00485@kitty.oester.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org From: "Gintaras Richard Gircys (GG148)" X-Alt: Rich.Gircys@Empac.COM X-Org: Empac International Corp. X-Snail: 47490 Seabridge Dr., Fremont CA. 94538 X-url: http://www.empac.com/ Subject: freebsd developer needed. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 11:41:38 -0700 Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk freebsd gurus, we are looking for a senior/very experienced freebsd developer. if you love freebsd, and want to make it your real job also, this might be the opportunity for you. you must be truly expert at freebsd; this is a senior level position. responsibilities would include exotic areas such as kernel level enhancements and driver integration/development. if you're interested, please email me you response/resume. thanks, rich From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Apr 18 14:11:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA09385 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 14:11:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA09365 Thu, 18 Apr 1996 14:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA25825; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:10:47 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA22216; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:10:46 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id WAA02211; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:47:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199604182047.WAA02211@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Free pizza & beer for GCC Guru in or near Berlin To: jhs@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:47:14 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199604171958.VAA00660@vector.jhs.no_domain> from "Julian Stacey jhs@freebsd.org" at Apr 17, 96 09:58:11 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (moved to freebsd-chat) As Julian Stacey jhs@freebsd.org wrote: > The guy below phoned me ('cos my name's in the FSF lists ) > to say he has a GCC porting problem with his > 2 personal Siemens MX300 (32532 machines), & he'd be willing to buy pizza > & beer (I told him to say that :-) & provide accomodation if you can be > a visiting gcc guru for a weekend. He'll show you round Berlin too. Trust me, this ain't something one would do for free, and even a Pizza and a case of good beer is insufficient... Too many other people gave up in hacking gcc for SNI. (There's one version for the RM series, i think, but that's about all.) Btw., there's a de.comp.os.sinix group. p.s.: Julian, your address displayed as: jhs@vector.jhs.no_domain (Julian Stacey jhs@freebsd.org) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 19 07:40:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA09133 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 07:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.muc.ditec.de (gw.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA09126 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 07:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tartufo.muc.ditec.de (tartufo.muc.ditec.de [134.98.18.2]) by gw.muc.ditec.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA03083 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:38:45 +0200 Received: by tartufo.muc.ditec.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.16.1 #16.39) id ; Fri, 19 Apr 96 16:41 MSZ Message-Id: From: me@tartufo.muc.ditec.de (Michael Elbel) Subject: How's that look for an uptime? To: chat@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:41:36 +0200 (MSZ) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (601) uname -a FreeBSD tick.muc.ditec.de 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Mon Nov 6 15:59:54 MET 1995 me@tick:/1/src/sys-src/sys/compile/tick i386 (602) uptime 4:36PM up 101 days, 2:37, 5 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 Basically the thing has been up since we remade the kernel in November. Not that it's allways idling around, it is our main internal www and ftp server as well as the general web development machine :) I don't think I've seen uptimes that long on many other systems I've been on. Michael -- Michael Elbel, DITEC, Muenchen, Germany - me@muc.ditec.de Fermentation fault (coors dumped) From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 19 09:03:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA14935 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from doorstep.unety.net (root@usi-00-10.Naperville.unety.net [204.70.107.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA14926 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webster.unety.net (webster.unety.net [206.31.202.8]) by doorstep.unety.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA05015; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:57:52 -0500 Received: by webster.unety.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2DDF.7C43DDC0@webster.unety.net>; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:00:56 -0500 Message-ID: <01BB2DDF.7C43DDC0@webster.unety.net> From: Jim Fleming To: "chat@FreeBSD.ORG" , "'Michael Elbel'" Subject: RE: How's that look for an uptime? Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:00:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Friday, April 19, 1996 11:41 AM, Michael Elbel[SMTP:me@tartufo.muc.ditec.de] wrote: @ @(602) uptime @ 4:36PM up 101 days, 2:37, 5 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 @ @ @Basically the thing has been up since we remade the kernel in November. @Not that it's allways idling around, it is our main internal www and ftp @server as well as the general web development machine :) @ @I don't think I've seen uptimes that long on many other systems I've been @on. @ 10:53AM up 124 days, 14:31, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 We recently rebuilt a rack and hand carried this particular machine along with its screaming UPS across the room with LAN trailing behind... Co-located server rooms are like hospital wards with the babies (servers) in incubators with life lines attached.... ...if we could just figure out how to power these things with "solar" and use radio LANs then we can park them out in the desert or in the Caribbean and forget about them...:-) -- Jim Fleming UNETY Systems, Inc. Naperville, IL 60563 e-mail: JimFleming@unety.net From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 19 10:01:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA17579 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA17570 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA20170; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:00:20 -0700 (PDT) To: me@tartufo.muc.ditec.de (Michael Elbel) cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How's that look for an uptime? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:41:36 +0200." Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:00:20 -0700 Message-ID: <20168.829933220@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > (601) uname -a > FreeBSD tick.muc.ditec.de 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Mon Nov 6 15:59: 54 MET 1995 me@tick:/1/src/sys-src/sys/compile/tick i386 > (602) uptime > 4:36PM up 101 days, 2:37, 5 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 > > > Basically the thing has been up since we remade the kernel in November. > Not that it's allways idling around, it is our main internal www and ftp > server as well as the general web development machine :) > > I don't think I've seen uptimes that long on many other systems I've been > on. Cool - why not post your hardware configuration since that seems to be as much a function of stability as the OS running on it? :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 19 10:23:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA19057 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19050 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA03660; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:22:59 -0600 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:22:59 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199604191722.LAA03660@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: me@tartufo.muc.ditec.de (Michael Elbel), chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How's that look for an uptime? In-Reply-To: <20168.829933220@time.cdrom.com> References: <20168.829933220@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > (601) uname -a > > FreeBSD tick.muc.ditec.de 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Mon Nov 6 15:59: > 54 MET 1995 me@tick:/1/src/sys-src/sys/compile/tick i386 > > (602) uptime > > 4:36PM up 101 days, 2:37, 5 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 Even though I've been outclassed by a few days, I'll post mine. gateway # uname -a FreeBSD gateway.sri.MT.net 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Fri Jan 19 18:14:04 MST 1996 nate@gateway.sri.MT.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/GATEWAY i386 gateway # uptime 11:16AM up 90 days, 16:02, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > Cool - why not post your hardware configuration since that seems to be > as much a function of stability as the OS running on it? :-) You're gonna laugh at me on this one. 486/66 - ISA/VLB 16MB of memory (Plenty of memory. Swap rarely occurs) SMC ultra 16 combo. ISA ethernet card 500MB IDE disk Generic I/O card (ISA) - IDE/Parallel/Game/Serial with serial disabled 4 Port i/o card - 16550 UARTS. 3.5" floppy 5.25" floppy #9 GXe video card (what a waste) This box is our router/firewall/DNS/modem server. The next time it goes down will be either putting it on a UPS, and/or adding a Frame Relay card to it when we upgrade our network connection. Basically, all it does is pump bits out it's network connections. Nate From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 19 11:23:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA22702 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from area238.residence.gatech.edu (root@area238.residence.gatech.edu [199.77.175.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA22696 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ken@localhost) by area238.residence.gatech.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA12349 Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:23:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199604191823.OAA12349@area238.residence.gatech.edu> Subject: Re: How's that look for an uptime? To: nate@sri.MT.net (Nate Williams) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, me@tartufo.muc.ditec.de, chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199604191722.LAA03660@rocky.sri.MT.net> from Nate Williams at "Apr 19, 96 11:22:59 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > (601) uname -a > > > FreeBSD tick.muc.ditec.de 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Mon Nov 6 15:59: > > 54 MET 1995 me@tick:/1/src/sys-src/sys/compile/tick i386 > > > (602) uptime > > > 4:36PM up 101 days, 2:37, 5 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 > Even though I've been outclassed by a few days, I'll post mine. > gateway # uname -a > FreeBSD gateway.sri.MT.net 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Fri Jan 19 18:14:04 MST 1996 nate@gateway.sri.MT.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/GATEWAY i386 > gateway # uptime > 11:16AM up 90 days, 16:02, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Cool. A friend (don't think he'll mind my mentioning this..:) ) of mine with a 2.1 box had it up for about 103 days before it had to be rebooted a couple of weeks ago. Here's the info on it: FreeBSD ulc152.residence.gatech.edu 2.1.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Dec 13 18:48:28 EST 1995 root@ulc152.residence.gatech.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/brent i386 Hardware: Gateway 2000 Pentium 60 16 MB ram 540 MB WD hard drive 3Com 509 Combo Sound Blaster Pro Mitsumi CD-ROM drive ATI Graphics Ultra Pro (2MB, XFree86 Server) 5.25" and 3.5" floppy drives It's mainly used as his personal workstation, etc... Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@area238.residence.gatech.edu Disclaimer: I don't speak for GTRI, GT, or Elvis. From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 19 13:26:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA29461 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 13:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yucca.cs.odu.edu (root@yucca.cs.odu.edu [128.82.4.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29446 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 13:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tulip.cs.odu.edu (bowden@tulip.cs.odu.edu [128.82.6.132]) by yucca.cs.odu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id QAA21843; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:24:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:25:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Ragnar To: Nate Williams cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Michael Elbel , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How's that look for an uptime? In-Reply-To: <199604191722.LAA03660@rocky.sri.MT.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Nate Williams wrote: Oh geez...and I thought my 60 day uptime was cool... > > > (601) uname -a > > > FreeBSD tick.muc.ditec.de 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Mon Nov 6 15:59: > > 54 MET 1995 me@tick:/1/src/sys-src/sys/compile/tick i386 > > > (602) uptime > > > 4:36PM up 101 days, 2:37, 5 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 > > Even though I've been outclassed by a few days, I'll post mine. > gateway # uname -a > FreeBSD gateway.sri.MT.net 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Fri Jan 19 18:14:04 MST 1996 nate@gateway.sri.MT.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/GATEWAY i386 > gateway # uptime > 11:16AM up 90 days, 16:02, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > > > Cool - why not post your hardware configuration since that seems to be > > as much a function of stability as the OS running on it? :-) > > You're gonna laugh at me on this one. > > 486/66 - ISA/VLB > 16MB of memory (Plenty of memory. Swap rarely occurs) > SMC ultra 16 combo. ISA ethernet card > 500MB IDE disk > Generic I/O card (ISA) - IDE/Parallel/Game/Serial with serial disabled > 4 Port i/o card - 16550 UARTS. > 3.5" floppy > 5.25" floppy > #9 GXe video card (what a waste) > > This box is our router/firewall/DNS/modem server. The next time it goes > down will be either putting it on a UPS, and/or adding a Frame Relay > card to it when we upgrade our network connection. Basically, all it > does is pump bits out it's network connections. > > > Nate > Jamie I have my finger on the pulse of the planet. From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 19 16:37:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA11501 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-42-134.ut.nl.ibm.net [139.92.42.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11493 Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA03006; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:57:29 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199604191957.VAA03006@vector.jhs.no_domain> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.jhs.no_domain: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Free pizza & beer for GCC Guru in or near Berlin From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 (pending modem change) Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH version 1.6.5 95 12 11, PGP available In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:47:14 +0200." <199604182047.WAA02211@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:57:27 +0200 Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Joerg, CC chat@freebsd.org (PS plse leave jhs@ on cc line, I don't think I'm on chat@ (I'll resubscribe)) Reference: > From: J Wunsch > > p.s.: Julian, your address displayed as: > > jhs@vector.jhs.no_domain (Julian Stacey jhs@freebsd.org) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yes because, - Every time I connect to the Internet, it is via an ISP that dynamicaly assigns me a different host IP number each connection occurence. - I can't ask the ISP to provide any more than what it already does, (for non technical reasons, don't ask ;-) - Various bits of my system seem to need a domain entry, (I have a few boxes here, not just one). - {Friends,aliases & programs} sometimes send mail from here, so I can't simply set the sendmail.cf host masquerade DMfreebsd.org to cope with my jhs originated mail, else for instance friends would appear to be friend_of_jhs@freebsd.org, which when it bounced would waste the time of postmaster@freebsd.org. So: - I assert my mail fields: From: Julian H. Stacey Reply-To: Julian H. Stacey - I have set my domain to an obviously false one to encourage people to ignore it & look further,if it bounces. - I realise it looks weird when seen in received-from lines etc. - I used to use jhs.org, that wasnt' spotted by humans, but caused bounces when poor mail reader programs selected the wrong field. Then I used jhs.local, but `local' caused some problem at the site where Don Libes (ports/lang/expect author) is. I know paying more, getting a fixed IP name/number are an option, but I'd prefer to stay using my low budget dynamic connection for now :-) I know dynamic IP allocation is not unique to me ... what do others do ? Any solutions out there ? Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 19 19:52:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA19334 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 19:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wedge.its.utas.edu.au (wedge.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA19326 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 19:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.its.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id MAA29282; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 12:51:34 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 12:51:34 +1000 (EST) From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Michael Elbel , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How's that look for an uptime? In-Reply-To: <20168.829933220@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > (601) uname -a > > FreeBSD tick.muc.ditec.de 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Mon Nov 6 15:59: > 54 MET 1995 me@tick:/1/src/sys-src/sys/compile/tick i386 > > (602) uptime > > 4:36PM up 101 days, 2:37, 5 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 > > > > > > Basically the thing has been up since we remade the kernel in November. > > Not that it's allways idling around, it is our main internal www and ftp > > server as well as the general web development machine :) > > > > I don't think I've seen uptimes that long on many other systems I've been > > on. > > Cool - why not post your hardware configuration since that seems to be > as much a function of stability as the OS running on it? :-) > > Jordan > Thought this one might be of interest as well: 3:07pm [postoffice]~> uname -a FreeBSD postoffice.friends.tas.edu.au 2.0.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE #0: Sat Jun 10 10:46:56 1995 jkh@westhill.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 3:08pm [postoffice]~> uptime 3:10PM up 187 days, 14:47, 1 user, load averages: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00 not too bad for a 2.0.5-RELEASE box running mail and DNS (not too busy just yet though). This is a 486DX2/66 generic IDE setup with 16MB RAM and a 1GB HD. cheers, Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Apr 20 09:41:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA19395 for chat-outgoing; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19389 Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id SAA25065 ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:41:24 +0200 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id SAA05127 ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:41:17 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.5/keltia-uucp-2.7) id LAA08680; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:14:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199604200914.LAA08680@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: Free pizza & beer for GCC Guru in or near Berlin To: jhs@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:14:28 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199604191957.VAA03006@vector.jhs.no_domain> from "Julian H. Stacey" at "Apr 19, 96 09:57:27 pm" X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1889 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Julian H. Stacey said: > I know dynamic IP allocation is not unique to me ... what do others do ? > Any solutions out there ? POP ? You have a From: which look like jhs@the.provider.com and you get the mail with popclient. Maybe a little tricky if you want to use procmail but it is doable. Or you find someone on the Internet which is willing to open you an UUCP account that you poll with UUCP/TCP every time you connect. Very easy. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #12: Sun Apr 14 16:01:04 MET DST 1996 From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Apr 20 09:55:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA19722 for chat-outgoing; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from doorstep.unety.net (root@usi-00-10.Naperville.unety.net [204.70.107.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19717 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webster.unety.net (webster.unety.net [206.31.202.8]) by doorstep.unety.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA07640; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:50:11 -0500 Received: by webster.unety.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2EAF.F66B4400@webster.unety.net>; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:53:17 -0500 Message-ID: <01BB2EAF.F66B4400@webster.unety.net> From: Jim Fleming To: Joerg Wunsch Cc: "freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: Free pizza & beer for GCC Guru in or near Berlin Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:53:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Friday, April 19, 1996 2:57 PM, Julian H. Stacey[SMTP:jhs@FreeBSD.ORG] wrote: @Hi Joerg, @I know paying more, getting a fixed IP name/number are an option, but I'd @prefer to stay using my low budget dynamic connection for now :-) @ @I know dynamic IP allocation is not unique to me ... what do others do ? @Any solutions out there ? @ @Julian @ Dynamic IP allocation is a fact of life in the poorly managed IPv4 address space. By forcing ISPs to operate in a very small percentage of the IP address space, ISPs have little choice but to use dynamic addressing. ISPs must view IP addresses as scarce, valuable, and a resource that they do not want to statically assign to individuals/companies. Some ISPs get large blocks and some get small blocks. It is not what you know...but rather, who you know... IPv6 is intended to increase the 32 bit address space to 128 bits. It supposedly will fix all existing problems and also cure world hunger for IP addesses. People disagree on when this cure will arrive. Some people would claim that it is already here. If IPv6 is really "just around the corner", then current IPv4 allocation policies should be relaxed and ISPs should be given the resources that they need to operate efficiently and to provide customers with the services they desire. Either the people that make these policies do not believe that IPv6 is close or they are determined to allocate the fragmented IPv4 address space in concert with large carriers and ISPs in an effort to create a "pecking order" that supposedly is good for the Internet. If you consider the IPv8 approach to solving world hunger... http://comm.unety.net/US/IL/Naperville/Unir you will see that the existing Legacy IPv4 Internet will be used simply as a low-cost bit transport system between the interfaces on the IPv8-based OuterInternet. IP-in-IP tunneling will be used to traverse the IPv4 network which is currently dieing because of poor planning and rapid growth. For IPv8, nothing really needs to change in IPv4. In fact, the dynamic addressing is not a major problem because in many cases sites will only need a small number of IPv4 interface addresses to act as gateways for their IPv8 network. The migration from IPv4 to IPv8 is similar to the migration from cities to suburbs. The IPv4 core (city) can be used for some useful purposes (primarily bit transport) and a new IPv8 OuterInternet can be built around the outside just as suburban areas surround cities. You do not need many roads in an out of the city...and for some people they may not need any city services, as long as better services are available on the OuterInternet. -- Jim Fleming UNETY Systems, Inc. Naperville, IL 60563 e-mail: JimFleming@unety.net