From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Sep 30 13:49:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03469 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03353 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA02999; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:49:20 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:49:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199609302049.OAA02999@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Testing? Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk No mail for a few hours.... From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Sep 30 19:40:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA11685 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tyger.inna.net (root@tyger.inna.net [206.151.66.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA11640 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tyger.inna.net (jamie@tyger.inna.net [206.151.66.1]) by tyger.inna.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA22037; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:47:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Jamie Bowden To: Nate Williams cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Testing? In-Reply-To: <199609302049.OAA02999@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, Nate Williams wrote: And? It happens. This list will sometimes see days with no mail. > No mail for a few hours.... > Jamie Bowden Network Administrator, TBI Ltd. From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 1 17:00:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA13173 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns.pinpt.com (dns.pinpt.com [205.179.195.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA13156 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover3.pinpt.com (gatemaster.pinpt.com [205.179.195.65]) by dns.pinpt.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA05081; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:01:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 96 16:56:28 Pacific Daylight Time From: "Sean J. Schluntz" Subject: Fw: To: schluntz@pinpt.com Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Chameleon ATX 6.0, Standards Based IntraNet Solutions, NetManage Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --- On Tue, 1 Oct 96 16:55:00 Pacific Daylight Time "Sean J. Schluntz" wrote: Test, please ignore. -------------------------------------------------------- Name: Sean J. Schluntz E-mail: Sean J. Schluntz Date: 10/01/96 Time: 16:55:01 This message was sent by Z-Mail Pro - from NetManage NetManage - delivers Standards Based IntraNet Solutions -------------------------------------------------------- ---------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Name: Sean J. Schluntz E-mail: Sean J. Schluntz Date: 10/01/96 Time: 16:56:29 This message was sent by Z-Mail Pro - from NetManage NetManage - delivers Standards Based IntraNet Solutions -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 1 17:01:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA13262 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns.pinpt.com (dns.pinpt.com [205.179.195.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA13256 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover3.pinpt.com (gatemaster.pinpt.com [205.179.195.65]) by dns.pinpt.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA05097; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:03:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 96 16:58:15 Pacific Daylight Time From: "Sean J. Schluntz" Subject: Fw: To: schluntz@pinpt.com Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Chameleon ATX 6.0, Standards Based IntraNet Solutions, NetManage Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --- On Tue, 1 Oct 96 16:55:00 Pacific Daylight Time "Sean J. Schluntz" wrote: Test, please ignore. -------------------------------------------------------- Name: Sean J. Schluntz E-mail: Sean J. Schluntz Date: 10/01/96 Time: 16:55:01 This message was sent by Z-Mail Pro - from NetManage NetManage - delivers Standards Based IntraNet Solutions -------------------------------------------------------- ---------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Name: Sean J. Schluntz E-mail: Sean J. Schluntz Date: 10/01/96 Time: 16:58:15 This message was sent by Z-Mail Pro - from NetManage NetManage - delivers Standards Based IntraNet Solutions -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 1 18:49:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA19860 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 18:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA19852 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 18:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA17008; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:18:11 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199610020148.LAA17008@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: FreeBSD - where? (Was Re: Warning, PeterW needs sleep!) To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:18:10 +0930 (CST) Cc: chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199610012143.OAA02547@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Oct 1, 96 02:43:33 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > > > I belive I have positive confirmation of at least one FreeBSD laptop > > down there already :-) > > There is a 486DX/2-66 running FreeBSD at Amundsen station (yes, I tend > to keep track of people who post and where they post from). There's a reasonable (but not huge) chance that we'll get one or two of our radar systems down there in the next 6-12 months. There's already at least one of our older DOS-based systems which is ripe for the upgrading 8) Then there's the Lidar that the AntDiv are building; we'd love to do the back end for it, but I think they want to do it in-house. (They're welcome to the control side of things, keeping an FP interferometer happy is not my idea of fun 8(, but the data acquisition system would be entertaining. ) > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 2 11:13:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25767 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux.local.net (sansig@line06.globalnet.it [194.185.53.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25756 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sansig@localhost) by linux.local.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA00385 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:12:31 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: linux.local.net: sansig owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:12:29 +0100 (MET) From: Sandro Sigala X-Sender: sansig@linux.local.net To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Game for Linux... please check if works under FreeBSD Linuxemu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi people, some time ago i have made a game for Linux called "Repton", a clone of the BBC Micro "Repton 3" game. It would be great if someone have some time to check if it works under FreeBSD under linuxemu (i have not any FreeBSD machines working yet). It requires the svgalib library to work in 320x200x256 mode, so if quake works, also my game should... :-) Anyway... this is the announce made on the comp.os.linux.announce newsgroup: ----------- Repton for Linux version 1.0BETA is out. It is temporary at sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/Incoming. Repton is a new arcade game that works with the svgalib library. It is VERY nice :-), check it out! It is a clone of the old BBC Micro Repton game. The files are: repton-1.0BETA.tar.gz sources repton-1.0BETA-bin.tar.gz precompiled binaries Hint: get the precompiled bins :-) [other stuff deleted...] XXX Alternative site: XXX ftp://www.unibs.it/contrib/sandro Best Regards, -sandro From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 2 11:40:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27084 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway.dkstat.com (root@gateway.dkstat.com [206.86.131.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA27078 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daveh@localhost) by gateway.dkstat.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA15626; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:39:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:39:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David Holloway To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: slattach redialing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Any one know if the slattach redial option (default actually) has been fixed? I believe it had something to do with tty code. -------------------------------------- David Holloway daveh@dkstat.com DK & Associates -------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 2 12:03:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA28264 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28254 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA10332; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:02:00 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:02:00 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199610021902.NAA10332@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: David Holloway Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slattach redialing In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David Holloway writes: > Any one know if the slattach redial option (default actually) > has been fixed? I believe it had something to > do with tty code. It hasn't been broken since 2.0.5. I've had it work *flawlessly* on my dedicated connection since then, with *NO* problems whatsoever. The only time it fails is when the remote end doesn't answer the phone. I've appended the relevant files/snippets from my setup at the end. If that doesn't work then your modem isn't setup correctly. Make sure the modem control lines follow the world and are not simply 'forced' on. Nate ----------- *snippet from /etc/rc.serial*: # Initialize assorted 8250-16550 (sio) ports. # maybe d a 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v # mouse d a 2 modem d a 1 # terminal d a 0 [ I also changed the speed from 57600 -> 115200 in the modem function ] *snipped from /etc/sysconfig*: network_interfaces="sl0 lo0 le0" ifconfig_sl0="inet 206.127.76.104 206.127.76.97 netmask 255.255.255.0" */etc/start_if.sl0*: #!/bin/sh slattach -c -h -r /etc/sliphome/dialout -s 115200 cuaa1 */etc/sliphone/dialout*: #!/bin/sh # # # This program uses the chat program to (re)dial and connect back up to the # SLIP host PHONE=1234567 USER=Suser PASSWORD=youthink DEVICE=cuaa0 # XXX - As it stands now, we try to dial the remote site every 10 seconds # or so until it answers. It would be better to have an exponential # backoff algorithm, but this way is much easier to write and guarantees # a connection as soon as one is available. # Wait just a little for the line to settle down sleep 10 (if chat -v ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT BUSY "" ATZ1 OK ATM0 OK ATDT$PHONE CONNECT "" ogin: $USER ssword: \\q$PASSWORD then exit 0 else exit 1 fi ) < /dev/$DEVICE > /dev/$DEVICE From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 2 16:33:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA14753 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA14748 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA13489; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:29:42 -0700 (PDT) To: Sandro Sigala cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Game for Linux... please check if works under FreeBSD Linuxemu In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Oct 1996 20:12:29 BST." Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 16:29:42 -0700 Message-ID: <13487.844298982@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > It requires the svgalib library to work in 320x200x256 mode, so > if quake works, also my game should... :-) FreeBSD has never supported svgalib, so I'm afraid it's always been "xquake" that worked. :-( Jordan From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 2 17:33:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA17099 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17094 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA12925; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610030033.RAA12925@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Sandro Sigala , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Game for Linux... please check if works under FreeBSD Linuxemu In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Oct 1996 16:29:42 PDT." <13487.844298982@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 17:33:21 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of "Jordan K. Hubbard" : > > It requires the svgalib library to work in 320x200x256 mode, so > > if quake works, also my game should... :-) > > FreeBSD has never supported svgalib, so I'm afraid it's always been > "xquake" that worked. :-( > > Jordan Well, I am sure that someone out there has ported svgalib . Amancio From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 2 17:52:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA17995 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17912 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13036; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610030051.RAA13036@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Sandro Sigala , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Game for Linux... please check if works under FreeBSD Linuxemu In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Oct 1996 17:47:44 PDT." <20666.844303664@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 17:51:22 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of "Jordan K. Hubbard" : > > Well, I am sure that someone out there has ported svgalib . > > I seriously doubt that. Soren looked at it a few years ago, declared > it a mess, and I haven't heard a peep about it since. Soren has his > own standard which he calls "dgalib", but I'm not sure whatever > happened to it. > > Jordan Oh, I took me a couple of hours one night so I am sure that it can be done I think the real obstable is that we don't like svgalib and I you can include me on it. So it is doable . Good Luck, Amancio From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 2 17:52:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA18026 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA18020 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA20668; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:47:44 -0700 (PDT) To: Amancio Hasty cc: Sandro Sigala , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Game for Linux... please check if works under FreeBSD Linuxemu In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Oct 1996 17:33:21 PDT." <199610030033.RAA12925@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 17:47:44 -0700 Message-ID: <20666.844303664@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Well, I am sure that someone out there has ported svgalib . I seriously doubt that. Soren looked at it a few years ago, declared it a mess, and I haven't heard a peep about it since. Soren has his own standard which he calls "dgalib", but I'm not sure whatever happened to it. Jordan From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 2 18:41:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA20943 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA20938 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA28355; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:41:00 -0700 (PDT) To: Kim Culhan cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any info on Hackerbrau? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Oct 1996 21:24:20 EDT." Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 18:41:00 -0700 Message-ID: <28352.844306860@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Redirected to -chat; this really isn't -hackers fodder] > Any hackers know anything about hackerbrau? Sure. From the long and well established Brauhaus in Munich, near (not surprisingly) the Hackerbrueke. Hacker-Pschorr is the full name of the brewery now and they have a big showing at every Oktoberfest. Jordan From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 2 18:41:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA20975 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA20969 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA26595; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:11:18 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199610030141.LAA26595@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Game for Linux... please check if works under FreeBSD Linuxemu To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:11:17 +0930 (CST) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, sansig@freenet.hut.fi, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20666.844303664@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Oct 2, 96 05:47:44 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard stands accused of saying: > > > Well, I am sure that someone out there has ported svgalib . > > I seriously doubt that. Soren looked at it a few years ago, declared > it a mess, and I haven't heard a peep about it since. Soren has his > own standard which he calls "dgalib", but I'm not sure whatever > happened to it. Last time this came up, IIRC we managed to convice Soren that SVGAlib compatability Would Be Nice, but I think he went off to Reimplement Everything and thus no more has been heard since. > Jordan -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 2 21:58:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA00278 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00268 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA28999; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:57:19 -0700 (PDT) To: Rick Weldon cc: Kim Culhan , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any info on Hackerbrau? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Oct 1996 23:29:19 EDT." <3253330F.167EB0E7@wisetech.com> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 21:57:19 -0700 Message-ID: <28997.844318639@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Repeat after me: "I shall not send -chat material to hackers!" :-)] > Good question :) I know the monks live on stark bier (strong beer) > through lent. (drank lots of it as well. Black, stuff floating in it, True, though to my knowledge, at least, the Hacker-Pschorr company never traditionally produced "Starkbier" (one word, not two) - they're a big city brewery, catering more to the "Helles" drinkers, and the monks tended to do their own brewing in places like Andechs, about 20km south of Munich and well worth a visit if you're a drinkin' man. In these modern times, of course, all the major breweries produce such special brews during "Starkbierzeit", but that's driven more from market forces than tradition. I wouldn't really associate their line of brews (known by local Munich nicknames like "Terminator", "Eliminator", "Devastator" and so on) with the genuine monk-brewed Lent article. There's really no comparison, if you've tried both. Jordan From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Oct 3 05:53:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA24875 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux.local.net (sansig@line07.globalnet.it [194.185.53.39]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA24869 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sansig@localhost) by linux.local.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA02673; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:52:25 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: linux.local.net: sansig owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:52:25 +0100 (MET) From: Sandro Sigala X-Sender: sansig@linux.local.net To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Game for Linux... please check if works under FreeBSD Linuxemu In-Reply-To: <13487.844298982@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > It requires the svgalib library to work in 320x200x256 mode, so > > if quake works, also my game should... :-) > > FreeBSD has never supported svgalib, so I'm afraid it's always been > "xquake" that worked. :-( Yes, svgalib isn't clean as it would be, and it is not portable at all :-( so i'm planning a rewrite for X11. Writing raw Xlib calls is evil, Intrinsic are ugly (IMHO)... The Qt library seem simple and clean enought to me... (and quite supported) any suggestions ? Thanks all. From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Oct 3 11:16:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA12442 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12431 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01511; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610031816.LAA01511@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Sandro Sigala cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Game for Linux... please check if works under FreeBSD Linuxemu In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Oct 1996 14:52:25 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 11:16:14 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If you tells what you need in terms of graphich calls we may be able to find a suitable x library for you. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Sandro Sigala : > On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > It requires the svgalib library to work in 320x200x256 mode, so > > > if quake works, also my game should... :-) > > > > FreeBSD has never supported svgalib, so I'm afraid it's always been > > "xquake" that worked. :-( > > Yes, svgalib isn't clean as it would be, and it is not portable at all :-( > so i'm planning a rewrite for X11. > Writing raw Xlib calls is evil, Intrinsic are ugly (IMHO)... > The Qt library seem simple and clean enought to me... (and quite > supported) any suggestions ? > > Thanks all. > From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Oct 3 16:26:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08604 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08596 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA02077; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:25:10 -0700 (PDT) To: Sandro Sigala cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Game for Linux... please check if works under FreeBSD Linuxemu In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Oct 1996 14:52:25 BST." Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 16:25:10 -0700 Message-ID: <2075.844385110@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Yes, svgalib isn't clean as it would be, and it is not portable at all :-( > so i'm planning a rewrite for X11. > Writing raw Xlib calls is evil, Intrinsic are ugly (IMHO)... > The Qt library seem simple and clean enought to me... (and quite > supported) any suggestions ? Rewrite it for Qt and try to win the $2K first prize in the Qt programming contest they just announced? :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Oct 4 05:16:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA14668 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 05:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux.local.net (sansig@line08.globalnet.it [194.185.53.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA14663 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 05:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sansig@localhost) by linux.local.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA00868; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:14:48 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: linux.local.net: sansig owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:14:47 +0100 (MET) From: Sandro Sigala X-Sender: sansig@linux.local.net To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Game for Linux... please check if works under FreeBSD Linuxemu In-Reply-To: <2075.844385110@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Yes, svgalib isn't clean as it would be, and it is not portable at all :-( > > so i'm planning a rewrite for X11. > > Writing raw Xlib calls is evil, Intrinsic are ugly (IMHO)... > > The Qt library seem simple and clean enought to me... (and quite > > supported) any suggestions ? > > Rewrite it for Qt and try to win the $2K first prize in the Qt programming > contest they just announced? :-) > Oh, this sounds interesting :-) -sandro From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Oct 4 05:44:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA16037 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 05:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux.local.net (sansig@line08.globalnet.it [194.185.53.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA16031 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 05:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sansig@localhost) by linux.local.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA01309; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:43:42 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: linux.local.net: sansig owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:43:42 +0100 (MET) From: Sandro Sigala X-Sender: sansig@linux.local.net To: Amancio Hasty cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Game for Linux... please check if works under FreeBSD Linuxemu In-Reply-To: <199610031816.LAA01511@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Amancio Hasty wrote: > If you tells what you need in terms of graphich calls we may be able > to find a suitable x library for you. > Ok, i have chosen Qt, anyway the game window is 320x192 pixels, 8bpp, refresh rate 8-10 frames/second. -sandro From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Oct 4 05:45:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA16078 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 05:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA16073 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 05:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA08785; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 05:43:36 -0700 (PDT) To: Sandro Sigala cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Game for Linux... please check if works under FreeBSD Linuxemu In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 04 Oct 1996 14:14:47 BST." Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 05:43:36 -0700 Message-ID: <8778.844433016@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk See: http://www.troll.no/contest.html > On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > Yes, svgalib isn't clean as it would be, and it is not portable at all :- ( > > > so i'm planning a rewrite for X11. > > > Writing raw Xlib calls is evil, Intrinsic are ugly (IMHO)... > > > The Qt library seem simple and clean enought to me... (and quite > > > supported) any suggestions ? > > > > Rewrite it for Qt and try to win the $2K first prize in the Qt programming > > contest they just announced? :-) > > > > Oh, this sounds interesting :-) > > -sandro > From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Oct 5 08:29:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA21593 for chat-outgoing; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 08:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.io.org (post.io.org [198.133.36.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA21587 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 08:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zap.io.org (taob@zap.io.org [198.133.36.81]) by post.io.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08348; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 11:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 11:29:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao To: Edward Ing cc: greig@sickkids.on.ca, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some Toronto area FreeBSDers gathering to attend Toronto Linux User's Group meeting. In-Reply-To: <3244397E.6E0F@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, Edward Ing wrote: > > At least two of us FreeBSDer's will be meeting to attend the Toronto > Linux User's group meeting at 7:30 on Tuesday, Sept. 24. Please join us. Why not show up to the Unix Unanimous meeting in Toronto instead? There is one coming up this Wednesday, Oct 9 (we gather every second Wednesday of the month). The regular participants are pretty hard-core UNIX syadmins and developers. You'll find the announcements in tor.general, ont.events and can.usrgroup: UNIX UNANIMOUS MEETING - 9TH OCTOBER 1996 The next meeting of Unix Unanimous will be held at 6:45 pm on Wednesday 9th October 1996, in room LP 266 of the DL Pratt Building, 6 Kings College Road, on the University of Toronto campus. Unix Unanimous is an informal gathering of people interested in Unix and related topics. There are no fees or membership requirements, and the meeting is open to all. Participants typically include Unix professionals, students, and hobbyists. This message will be repeated on the Monday before the meeting, if there are any items for the agenda, then email me before than. Special Announcements: This is a relativly new location. A map of the area can be found at http://www.drink.com/uu, where this message is repeated, and will always contain the correct location and time of the next meeting. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org, taob@ican.net) Senior Systems and Network Administrator, Internet Canada Corp. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Oct 5 19:15:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA28546 for chat-outgoing; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 19:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA28537 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 19:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29597; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 22:15:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA16137; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 22:16:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca: ac199 owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 22:16:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Westside Marketing Group cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INCREASE VISITS TO YOUR WEB SITE BY UP TO 10 TIMES OR MORE!!!!! In-Reply-To: <199610042005.NAA14227@leonardo.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Westside Marketing Group wrote: > (For best format maximize your window) > Is your web site not getting enough traffic? Westside Marketing Group can No! It's not! (really!) > your web site in as many places as possible. You should take advantage of > EVERY search engine and directory as possible to maximize traffic to your > web site. There are currently over 350 different FREE places to list your > site, with more coming online everyday. Our service will provide a direct I wonder how many of these ads yahoo, webcrawler, deja-news, etc. get? I'd be willing to bet many of these 350 different FREE places to list our site would also be off-topic for our site... > can have your web site submitted in less than a week. No other company can > match our experience and price. 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