From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 3 02:00:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA06009 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 02:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from silver.sms.fi (root@silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA06000 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 02:00:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA01313; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 12:03:01 +0200 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 12:03:01 +0200 Message-Id: <199603031003.MAA01313@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: Kim Culhan Cc: Jim Lowe , multimedia@freebsd.org, multimedia@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-Reply-To: References: <199603021752.LAA29745@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Since I'm on both multimedia@freebsd.org and multimedia@rah.star-gate.com (which might be politically incorrect thing to do?) I'm getting two copies of all the messages which is annoying. (since the ra.dkuug.dk delaying and order-randomizer does it job well enough for the messages being well in different order from both the real time and star-gate list) So would you please consider either choosing one of the lists for the discussion or merging the lists somehow that being on one would be enough to get all messages. Thank you. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 3 10:25:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA06045 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 10:25:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA06040 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 10:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA01202; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 10:24:34 -0800 Message-Id: <199603031824.KAA01202@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Petri Helenius cc: Kim Culhan , Jim Lowe , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Mar 1996 12:03:01 +0200." <199603031003.MAA01313@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 10:24:34 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, We should be using multimedia@freebsd.org and *not* multimedia@star-gate.com About a week ago it was posted that we were going to switch over to freebsd.org. Tnks, Amancio >>> Petri Helenius said: > > Since I'm on both multimedia@freebsd.org and multimedia@rah.star-gate.com > (which might be politically incorrect thing to do?) I'm getting two copies > of all the messages which is annoying. (since the ra.dkuug.dk delaying and > order-randomizer does it job well enough for the messages being > well in different order from both the real time and star-gate list) > > So would you please consider either choosing one of the lists for the > discussion or merging the lists somehow that being on one would be > enough to get all messages. > > Thank you. > > Pete > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 3 12:37:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA11987 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 12:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11982 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 12:37:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA02571; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 12:37:01 -0800 Message-Id: <199603032037.MAA02571@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Kim Culhan cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: GUS PnP Info In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Mar 1996 19:53:44 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 12:37:00 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>> Kim Culhan said: > > > On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Amancio Hasty Jr. wrote: > > > >>> Kim Culhan said: > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Amancio Hasty Jr. wrote: > > > > > > > >>> Kim Culhan said: > > > > The interruptions I'm hearing sound like 'static' not the relatively lo nger > > > time constant of the 'gating' action built into the half-duplex > > > 'direction changer' which is level dependant. Is that what you were thi nking > > > of? > > > Well, I think is a lot easier to just built vat with the full duplex audio s tuff > > to find out if it eliminates the problem than to attempt to analyze the so urce > > of the problem. > > For sure. > > > Make sure that with the full duplex stuff : > > > > 1. you don't use vmix > > > > 2. For gus max only and *not* for the GUS PnP, ln -s /dev/audio1 /dev/audi o: > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Mar 2 11:14 /dev/audio -> audio1 > > I have obtained a PnP, should I go for it from the start? In gus_wave.c: long gus_wave_init (long mem_start, struct address_info *hw_config) { unsigned long flags; unsigned char val; char *model_num = "2.4"; int gus_type = 0x24; /* 2.4 */ int irq = hw_config->irq, dma = hw_config->dma, dma2 = hw_config->dma2; if (irq < 0 || irq > 15) { printf ("ERROR! Invalid IRQ#%d. GUS Disabled", irq); return mem_start; } if (dma < 0 || dma > 7) { printf ("ERROR! Invalid DMA#%d. GUS Disabled", dma); return mem_start; } gus_irq = irq; gus_dma = dma; gus_dma2 = dma2; if (gus_dma2 == -1) gus_dma2 = dma; /* * Try to identify the GUS model. * * Versions < 3.6 don't have the digital ASIC. Try to probe it first. */ flags = splhigh (); outb (gus_base + 0x0f, 0x20); val = inb (gus_base + 0x0f); splx (flags); if (val != 0xff && (val & 0x06)) /* Should be 0x02?? */ { /* * It has the digital ASIC so the card is at least v3.4. * Next try to detect the true model. */ val = inb (u_MixSelect); /* * Value 255 means pre-3.7 which don't have mixer. * Values 5 thru 9 mean v3.7 which has a ICS2101 mixer. * 10 and above is GUS MAX which has the CS4231 codec/mixer. * */ val = 166; ^^^^^^^^^ Add the above line , the GUS PnP returns back 255 as the version number and the 166 will force the driver to think that is a GUS MAX. This will not be so much of an issue when PnP support is added to FreeBSD at that time we will have more than enough information to identify and configure the GUS PnP automagically. recompile and install the new kernel. Initialize the GUS PnP in DOS and do a soft boot to freebsd >. AMD has not release yet the DOCS for the Interwave chipset which is used in the GUS PnP when they do native initialization for the GUS PnP will be added to the sound driver. If when the system comes up the GUS PnP is dead quiet you have not initialize the GUS PnP. The card when it comes up it has an annoying hiss just slide "line 1" in vmix all the way down to get rid of it. ----- Make sure that you have : lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Mar 3 00:57 /dev/audio -> audio0 This will access the CS4231 side of the GUS PnP . Please not that this is only for the GUS PnP because the GUS PnP has a CS4231 emulation mode which works in full-duplex. ***If you have a GUS MAX and try to use /dev/audio0 for full duplex **** ***audio operations is not going to work use /dev/audio1 (that is the*** ***GF1 side of things) *** Also, the GUS PnP does not support recording from /dev/audio1 Enjoy, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 3 18:53:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA27429 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 18:53:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from iss.nus.sg (dragon.iss.nus.sg [202.42.140.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27413 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 18:52:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dorado.iss.nus.sg by iss.nus.sg (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08181; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:54:01 +0800 Received: by dorado.iss.nus.sg (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00372; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:54:00 +0800 From: karianto@iss.nus.sg (Karianto Leman) Message-Id: <9603040254.AA00372@dorado.iss.nus.sg> Subject: SUBSCRIBE To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:53:59 +0800 (SGT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I would like to join your mailing list. Thanks & Regards, Karianto Leman From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 4 00:30:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA11925 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 00:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from kanto.cc.jyu.fi (kallio@kanto.cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA11920 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 00:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kallio@localhost) by kanto.cc.jyu.fi (8.7.2/8.7.2) id KAA11444; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:29:47 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:29:45 +0200 (EET) From: Seppo Kallio To: Jim Lowe cc: multimedia@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-Reply-To: <199603011854.MAA20036@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am using FreeBSD 2.2-SNAP 963001 First test: vic with old kernel meteor driver: PAL OK! Great! vat: ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libc.so.3.0" nv: ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libc.so.3.0" ... some make mv rm ... vat: got vat recompiled! And it works. nv: missing spigot library ... I did see how to get it but cannot remember ... must look for it I think someone mentioned "configure" command ... (Uh. What is the location I should drop the meteor driver? I do not have that kind of location on my disk containing man, local, sys etc.) I am trying to recompile kernel next ... and look spigot library Seppo On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Jim Lowe wrote: > The URL's for the new stuff are: > ftp://ftp.cs.uwm.edu/pub/FreeBSD/meteor.tgz > ftp://ftp.cs.uwm.edu/pub/FreeBSD/m-src.tar.gz > > If you are having trouble with vic, vat, or nv under FreeBSD, please > try the 3/1/96 release of the m-src tools along with meteor.1.0.10.tar.gz. > If if doesn't work for you please let me know so I can update this code > with fixes. Also, if someone has the qcam drivers for vic/nv, it would > sure be nice to get them into this code... YES Please! I have QCam here on my desk uninstalled! Waiting for vic supporting it! ;-) BTW. One friend here did by a QCam and it had some hole in the front "panel" on the edge of the white and black plastic parts--as if someone had used knife and made a notch (to the white plastic). The camera got side light thu that hole to the light sensitive components and the picture was foggy etc. He went to the shop and they noticed the second camera had same hole! After waiting 2-3 week he has got a camera working OK. :-( Seppo From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 4 01:22:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA15094 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:22:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA15089 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:22:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA18822; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:24:00 -0800 Message-Id: <199603040924.BAA18822@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: New meteor driver To: pete@sms.fi (Petri Helenius) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:24:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian Litzinger" Cc: kimc@w8hd.org, james@miller.cs.uwm.edu, multimedia@freebsd.org, multimedia@rah.star-gate.com In-Reply-To: <199603031003.MAA01313@silver.sms.fi> from "Petri Helenius" at Mar 3, 96 12:03:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > > Since I'm on both multimedia@freebsd.org and multimedia@rah.star-gate.com > (which might be politically incorrect thing to do?) I'm getting two copies > of all the messages which is annoying. (since the ra.dkuug.dk delaying and > order-randomizer does it job well enough for the messages being > well in different order from both the real time and star-gate list) > > So would you please consider either choosing one of the lists for the > discussion or merging the lists somehow that being on one would be > enough to get all messages. What does the above have to do with the new meteor driver? -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 4 02:19:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA18531 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 02:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from kanto.cc.jyu.fi (kanto.cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA18503 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 02:18:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kallio@localhost) by kanto.cc.jyu.fi (8.7.2/8.7.2) id MAA20668; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 12:17:46 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 12:17:44 +0200 (EET) From: Seppo Kallio To: Jim Lowe cc: nate@sri.MT.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-Reply-To: <199603012020.OAA29030@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Great with the new meteor driver I am getting picture OK from vcr tape! Seppo From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 4 03:04:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA20956 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:04:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from silver.sms.fi (root@silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA20548 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 02:57:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA03600; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 12:58:02 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 12:58:02 +0200 Message-Id: <199603041058.MAA03600@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: "Brian Litzinger" Cc: kimc@w8hd.org, james@miller.cs.uwm.edu, multimedia@freebsd.org, multimedia@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-Reply-To: <199603040924.BAA18822@MediaCity.com> References: <199603031003.MAA01313@silver.sms.fi> <199603040924.BAA18822@MediaCity.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Brian Litzinger writes: > > > > > > > > Since I'm on both multimedia@freebsd.org and multimedia@rah.star-gate.com > > (which might be politically incorrect thing to do?) I'm getting two copies > > of all the messages which is annoying. (since the ra.dkuug.dk delaying and > > order-randomizer does it job well enough for the messages being > > well in different order from both the real time and star-gate list) > > > > So would you please consider either choosing one of the lists for the > > discussion or merging the lists somehow that being on one would be > > enough to get all messages. > > What does the above have to do with the new meteor driver? > The discussion that is copied to both lists has the subject. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 4 05:51:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA00854 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 05:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from jagor.srce.hr (jagor.srce.hr [161.53.2.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA00490 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 05:43:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from esehovic@argos.tel.hr [205.219.255.8] by jagor.srce.hr (8.7.3/8.6.12.CI) id OAA15687; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:42:28 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:42:28 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199603041342.OAA15687@jagor.srce.hr> X-Sender: ssehovic@jagor.srce.hr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org From: Sinisa Sehovic Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 10:53 AM 3/4/96 +0800, you wrote: >Hi, > > I would like to be removed from mailing list. > >Thanks & Regards, >Sehovic > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 4 06:06:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA02078 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 06:06:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA02070 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 06:06:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA17856; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:06:02 -0600 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:06:02 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199603041406.IAA17856@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: Sound bits.. ( was Re: New meteor driver ) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." > > "vat-hasty-fix" is a vat audio driver suitable for full duplex soundcards > such as the GUS PnP and the GUS Max. > > The distributed vat audio driver for the Voxware sound driver is > a half-duplex audio driver. > > One could merge my audio driver with the distributed vat audio driver > so that we wouldn't need to burden people to know which audio module > to use. If anyone is interested in helping out please drop me a note. I didn't do this merge, since your sound drivers were still in alpha test. I think this might be a wise thing to do once the full duplex drivers make it into -current, but I don't know that I would do this before they got into -current. > Because I don't know C++, I need someone who knows C++ well to merge > the two C++ audio driver modules. As for the glue logic to decide > to use the half-duplex or the full duplex audio module , I can > take care of that. C, C++, same language, different relatives :-). -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 4 06:25:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA02950 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 06:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA02945 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 06:25:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA19067; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:25:43 -0600 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:25:43 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199603041425.IAA19067@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: kallio@cc.jyu.fi Subject: Re: New meteor driver Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org, multimedia@rah.star-gate.com Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >From: Seppo Kallio > > >I am using FreeBSD 2.2-SNAP 963001 Last time I recompiled -current was around Feb 15, so I guess I am running a 961502 snap :-). > >First test: vic with old kernel meteor driver: PAL OK! Great! > vat: ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libc.so.3.0" > nv: ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libc.so.3.0" You might have to recompile vic since I am running a little more recent version of -current. > vat: got vat recompiled! And it works. > nv: missing spigot library ... I did see how to get it but > cannot remember ... must look for it I think someone > mentioned "configure" command ... I think you should be able to (cd /usr/ports/graphics/spigot;make) and it will pick up the spigot library. If not, you can get it from ftp://ftp.cs.uwm.edu/pub/FreeBSD/spigot/spigot.tar.gz. Just copy libspigot.a to /usr/local/lib and ranlib it. Another option would be to run ./configure in the vic directory and it should generate a version of vic without spigot support. > > (Uh. What is the location I should drop the meteor driver? > I do not have that kind of location on my disk containing man, local, > sys etc.) The new driver is located in the sys subdirectory of the distribution tree. You will need to install: From meteor dist To your system sys/pci/meteor.c /sys/pci/meteor.c sys/pci/meteor_reg.h /sys/pci/meteor_reg.h sys/i386/include/ioctl_meteor.h /sys/i386/include/ioctl_meteor.h If you are running 2.1 or 2.1R, you will need to add the ``options METEOR_FreeBSD_210'' to your configuration file. The other option would be to sup -current and remake the kernel. Thanks for the report. I am glad to hear that things are close to working for you. -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 4 07:29:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA08005 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:29:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from koala.scott.net (root@koala.scott.net [204.181.147.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07999 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:29:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from jason.scott.net (dialup74.scott.net [205.241.3.74]) by koala.scott.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00284; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 09:29:34 -0600 Message-ID: <313B0C61.41C67EA6@scott.net> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 09:29:37 -0600 From: Jason Gilbert X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Seppo Kallio CC: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Seppo Kallio wrote: > > with fixes. Also, if someone has the qcam drivers for vic/nv, it would > > sure be nice to get them into this code... > > YES Please! I have QCam here on my desk uninstalled! Waiting for vic > supporting it! ;-) > I have the patches, but have yet to get them to compile under the m-src code. As a matter of fact I was having troubles getting the vic src in there to compile at all. I'll try getting the new release. BTW, I'm running 2.1, should there be any problems???? The patches for qcam that I have are for 2.1. I can post them somewhere if you want or maybe I can find where I got them. L8r...Jason From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 4 08:10:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA12092 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:10:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA12082 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA19665; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:15:31 +0100 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199603041615.RAA19665@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: New meteor driver To: jason@scott.net (Jason Gilbert) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:15:30 +0100 (MET) Cc: kallio@cc.jyu.fi, multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <313B0C61.41C67EA6@scott.net> from "Jason Gilbert" at Mar 4, 96 09:29:37 am Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Seppo Kallio wrote: > > > > with fixes. Also, if someone has the qcam drivers for vic/nv, it would > > > sure be nice to get them into this code... > > > > YES Please! I have QCam here on my desk uninstalled! Waiting for vic > > supporting it! ;-) > > > > I have the patches, but have yet to get them to compile under the m-src > code. As a matter of fact I was having troubles getting the vic src in > there to compile at all. I'll try getting the new release. BTW, I'm > running 2.1, should there be any problems???? The patches for qcam that I > have are for 2.1. I can post them somewhere if you want or maybe I can > find where I got them. Afaik, m-src (Jim Lowes tree) is for 2.2 (current). There sure would be problems to get it running under 2.1. Yes, please post the patches. I have Quickcam and Cu-Seeme running here on my desktop (under Win95) and really would love to have it all working under FreeBSD. > > L8r...Jason > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 4 08:19:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA12610 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mowgli.wr.usgs.gov (mowgli.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.109.53]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA12603 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:19:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from twcutter@localhost) by mowgli.wr.usgs.gov (8.7.3/8.6.12) id IAA12655; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:21:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Tom W. Cutter" Message-Id: <199603041621.IAA12655@mowgli.wr.usgs.gov> Subject: Re: New meteor driver To: jason@scott.net (Jason Gilbert) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:21:37 -0800 (PST) Cc: kallio@cc.jyu.fi, multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <313B0C61.41C67EA6@scott.net> from "Jason Gilbert" at Mar 4, 96 09:29:37 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have the URL to get the Quick Cam patches: http://www.crynwr.com:80/qcpc/ I believe it was posted here previously. They work for me. It only has nv support in vic. One change I needed to make was to wire the lpt port address. The autodetect failed. Don't know if anyone has added h.261 support? Performance of the driver needs to improve. Really needs to be made into a kernel driver. - Tom Cutter > > Seppo Kallio wrote: > > > > with fixes. Also, if someone has the qcam drivers for vic/nv, it would > > > sure be nice to get them into this code... > > > > YES Please! I have QCam here on my desk uninstalled! Waiting for vic > > supporting it! ;-) > > > > I have the patches, but have yet to get them to compile under the m-src > code. As a matter of fact I was having troubles getting the vic src in > there to compile at all. I'll try getting the new release. BTW, I'm > running 2.1, should there be any problems???? The patches for qcam that I > have are for 2.1. I can post them somewhere if you want or maybe I can > find where I got them. > > L8r...Jason > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 4 10:28:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA18436 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:28:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA18431 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:28:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA16241; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 12:28:11 -0600 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 12:28:11 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199603041828.MAA16241@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: jason@scott.net, twcutter@mowgli.wr.usgs.gov Subject: Re: New meteor driver Cc: kallio@cc.jyu.fi, multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk . I have the URL to get the Quick Cam patches: . http://www.crynwr.com:80/qcpc/ . . I believe it was posted here previously. They work for me. It . only has nv support in vic. One change I needed to make was to wire . the lpt port address. The autodetect failed. Don't know if anyone has . added h.261 support? Performance of the driver needs to improve. Really . needs to be made into a kernel driver. . - Tom Cutter It should be fairly easy to get h.261 support. Nv uses yuv 4:2:2 format and h.261 uses yuv 4:1:1. Since the qcam is greyscale (either 4 or 6 bits -- if I remember), then you basically have 4:0:0 with 4 or 6 bit resolution on the Y component. I suspect you will have to scale this Y component somewhat, and the U/V components would be set to zero, other than that -- it should be easy to create the grabber. There are several grabbers that you can use for an example. The meteor grabber probably isn't the best since the 7196 supports random frame sizes. The spigot or the sun vpix would probably be better examples on how to support a qcam interface. If I ever get a qcam here I will probably take a look at the code if someone hasn't done this already. . > > . > > YES Please! I have QCam here on my desk uninstalled! Waiting for vic . > > supporting it! ;-) . > > . > . > I have the patches, but have yet to get them to compile under the m-src . > code. As a matter of fact I was having troubles getting the vic src in . > there to compile at all. I'll try getting the new release. BTW, I'm . > running 2.1, should there be any problems???? The patches for qcam that I . > have are for 2.1. I can post them somewhere if you want or maybe I can . > find where I got them. . > . > L8r...Jason . > . What sort of problems are you having? With Make, configure, gcc? My gmake is 3.73, gcc is 2.6.3. I am not sure what version of make I am running. You will need to ftp the spigot library from ftp://ftp.cs.uwm.edu/pub/FreeBSD/spigot/spigot.tar.gz and install libspigot.a in /usr/local/lib, or do a ./configure in the vic tree. Other than that, all I do a is ``make'' and it compiles. If you are having some other problem please let me know. I would like to make this as easy as possible for people so we can add drivers and interfaces as new hardware becomes available. It would be real cool to add a hardware mpeg encoder/decoder to vic to compare hardware mpeg performance vs software h.261 performance. -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 4 11:28:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA21398 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 11:28:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from koala.scott.net (root@koala.scott.net [204.181.147.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21389 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 11:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from jason.scott.net (dialup75.scott.net [205.241.3.75]) by koala.scott.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA06535; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:27:32 -0600 Message-ID: <313B4429.41C67EA6@scott.net> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 13:27:37 -0600 From: Jason Gilbert X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christoph Kukulies CC: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver (quickcam) References: <199603041615.RAA19665@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > > > > > Seppo Kallio wrote: > > > > > > with fixes. Also, if someone has the qcam drivers for vic/nv, it would > > > > sure be nice to get them into this code... > > > > > > YES Please! I have QCam here on my desk uninstalled! Waiting for vic > > > supporting it! ;-) > > > The patches are available from the Quickcam Third-Party Drivers page.(previously the reverse engineering project) Anyway, There is a link to the patches for both nv and vic but they are for 2.0.5/2.1. I imagine they should work with 2.2, if not it should be a start I suppose. There is also a new driver it appears that works with freebsd. Haven't checked it out yet. Oh yeah, the page is at: http://www.crynwr.com/qcpc/ L8r...Jason From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 4 15:06:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA07057 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 15:06:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com ([205.138.147.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07052 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 15:06:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA00488 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:00:40 -0600 Received: from tserv.lodgenet.com(204.124.120.10) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma000486; Mon Mar 4 17:00:25 1996 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.30]) by tserv.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA08257 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:27:25 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA12694 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:39:33 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603042239.QAA12694@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: multiple sound cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 16:39:33 -0600 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk We've got a few over-zealous salesmen who've sold a product which requires multiple sound devices. Does anyone know of any devices/drivers which support this? eric. -- erich@lodgenet.com erich@rrnet.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 4 16:11:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA10978 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:11:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10973 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:11:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA24426; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:09:19 -0800 (PST) To: Seppo Kallio cc: Jim Lowe , multimedia@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Mar 1996 10:29:45 +0200." Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 16:09:19 -0800 Message-ID: <24424.825984559@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I am using FreeBSD 2.2-SNAP 963001 Interesting SNAP version you have there.. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 4 17:33:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA15926 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA15921 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:33:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA28355; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:31:58 -0800 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:31:57 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Jason Gilbert cc: Christoph Kukulies , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver (quickcam) In-Reply-To: <313B4429.41C67EA6@scott.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, Jason Gilbert wrote: > > > > YES Please! I have QCam here on my desk uninstalled! Waiting for vic > > > > supporting it! ;-) > > The patches are available from the Quickcam Third-Party Drivers > page.(previously the reverse engineering project) Anyway, There is > a link to the patches for both nv and vic but they are for > 2.0.5/2.1. I imagine they should work with 2.2, if not it should > be a start I suppose. There is also a new driver it appears that > works with freebsd. Haven't checked it out yet. But, does the vic driver WORK AT ALL? Last I heard they did not. I don't have the tools here to compile vic yet, so I haven't tried. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 5 14:02:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA29010 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:02:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29005 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:02:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id QAA06160 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:02:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:02:28 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199603052202.QAA06160@plains.nodak.edu> To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: vat and X lockup Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk we have a 133 pentium (asus pipe-line cache and edo ram), SMC power ethernet, meteor, GUS MAX, Logitech mouse (tried it as a serial and PS/2 with no change), ISA ATI Mach 64 video [yeah it should be a PCI video but we needed the fourth PCI slot and the only X I could get to work with this ISA card is the SVGA server :( ] that locks up when vat and X are running at the same time. a person can wail on the machine if one or the other is running but put them together and it locks up. I even pulled down Amanico's new sound drivers. it took me a while to find the fine print that says GUS MAX should link /dev/audio to /dev/audio1. By the way I could play all I want with new drivers with /dev/audio linked to /dev/audio0, I simply got no sound. ***inbedded documentation question for Jim Lowe, just to see if he is ***paying attention: the information about the new sound drivers looks ***easy enough for me to add to my multimedia web page, is it still ***true that vmix does not work with the new sound drivers or was that ***changed with your newest sources? there shouldn't be an IRQ duplication. The DOS setup liked IRQ 5 and DRQ 1 and 3. The sound card works great (for hours) when X is not running. When I was running the FreeBSD-2.1.0-RELEASE sound code, I even pulled out the ISA Mach 64, and put in a PCI Mach 64 with the acellerated server and it ran much longer and took more mouse abuse, but evenually the sound card started to whistle and the machine locked up. I used the mouse as a serial and as a PS/2 mouse, no difference. I guess someone is going to tell me to pull the edo memory because edo and pipeline caches are bad, I will do this tommorrow. can anyone think of anything else? /dev/sndstat with new drivers. VoxWare Sound Driver:3.5-alpha7-951119 (Thu Jan 4 01:09:01 PST 1996 Amancio Hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Config options: 188090a Installed drivers: Type 4: Gravis Ultrasound Card config: Gravis Ultrasound at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1,3 Audio devices: 0: GUS MAX (CS4231A) (DUPLEX) 1: Gravis UltraSound (DUPLEX) Synth devices: 0: Gravis UltraSound MAX (512k) Midi devices: 0: Gravis UltraSound Midi Timers: 0: System clock 1: GUS Mixers: 0: AD1848/CS4248/CS4231 1: Gravis Ultrasound dmesg FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Mar 5 14:56:24 CST 1996 tinguely@superblock:/usr/users/tinguely/sys2.1/sys/compile/juell CPU: 133-MHz Pentium 735\\90 or 815\\100 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52b Stepping=11 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 31256576 (30524K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> psm0 at 0x60-0x63 irq 12 on motherboard sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface gus0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x3 on isa at 0x32c dma 3,1 at 0x220 irq 5 dma 1,3 Probing for devices on the PCI bus: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 de0 rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:9 de0: DC21140 [10-100Mb/s] pass 1.1 Ethernet address 00:00:c0:7b:db:c5 de0: enabling 10baseT UTP port ahc0 rev 3 int a irq 10 on pci0:11 ahc0: 2940 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, aic7870, 255 SCBs ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ahc0:0:0): "CONNER CFP4207S 4.28GB 1524" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 4096MB (8388608 512 byte sectors) (ahc0:4:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3701TA 3055" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:4:0): CD-ROM cd0(ahc0:4:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 Medium not present can't get the size meteor0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:12 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 5 17:31:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA14630 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp (fsb1.aist-nara.ac.jp [163.221.76.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA14625 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:31:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from soft8.aist-nara.ac.jp by mailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp (8.6.10+2.5Wb1/2.8Wb/NAIST-1.6[gate]) id KAA02474; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 10:31:01 +0900 Received: from localhost by soft8.aist-nara.ac.jp (5.67+1.6W[kuis-17]/2.8Wb/NAIST-1.3[is]) id AA01052; Tue, 5 Mar 96 10:30:38 GMT+0900 Message-Id: <9603050130.AA01052@soft8.aist-nara.ac.jp> To: Jim Lowe Cc: jason@scott.net, twcutter@mowgli.wr.usgs.gov, kallio@cc.jyu.fi, multimedia@freebsd.org Reply-To: oka@is.aist-nara.ac.jp Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 04 Mar 1996 12:28:11 CST. <199603041828.MAA16241@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="ISO-2022-JP" Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 10:30:37 +0900 From: Koji OKAMURA Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 12:28:11 -0600 > From: Jim Lowe > If I ever get a qcam here I will probably take a look at the code > if someone hasn't done this already. I wrote grabber-qcam.cc for Linux. (grabber-gcam.cc on http://www.crynwr.com:80/qcpc/ is typo :) It supports H.261. Now I have a FreeBSD Box and am making grabber-qcam.cc compatible with BSD and Linux. I will release it soon. -- Koji From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 5 22:31:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA18960 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA18939 Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:31:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA02818; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:30:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199603060630.WAA02818@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: hackers@freebsd.org cc: Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 (310) , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: notebooks and FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 22:30:22 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, The context here is mbone tools for notebooks and the current state of FreeBSD support for notebooks. A few people have expressed interest in using notebooks for multimedia purposes. So if anybody knows of a cool pcmia video capture card which we can support please let us know. Cheers, Amancio ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: CSP1DWD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU Received: from MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (mvs.oac.ucla.edu [164.67.200.200]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA01355 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:32:01 -0800 Message-Id: <199603060032.QAA01355@rah.star-gate.com> Received: from UCLAMVS.BITNET by MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (IBM MVS SMTP V2R2.1) with BSMTP id 7621; Tue, 05 Mar 96 16:33:27 PST Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 16:33 PST To: "Amancio Hasty Jr." From: Denis DeLaRoca (310) 825-4580 Subject: Re: Re: Laptops in general On Tue, 05 Mar 1996 13:46:48 -0800, "Amancio Hasty Jr." said: > If a laptop has a parallel port then I don't see any reasons why a Quickcam wi > nv or vic will not work. > > Does anyone have a good pointer for pcmia video grabbers and of course a point > to how to program the pcimia grabber. But more basic, does FreeBSD run fine now on some of the latest SVGA notebooks with sound support and CD-ROMs... I understood that FreeBSD wasn't quite yet up to speed in regards PCMCIA and sleep/resume support. I'd be quite happy if I could merely use the MBONE tools in "receive" mode... - -- Denis ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 5 22:35:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA19740 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:35:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (pp@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA19708 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:35:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <10405-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:34:04 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id QAA09425 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:34:07 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id GAA11442 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 06:37:39 GMT Message-Id: <199603060637.GAA11442@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Location of latest current sound driver X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 16:37:37 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Where's the location of the latest sound driver that runs under current? I'm feeling brave enough to test the SB16 sound code. Stephen -- I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - They don't pay me enough for that! From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 6 01:17:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA24212 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:17:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA24180 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:17:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA03746; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:16:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199603060916.BAA03746@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Mark Tinguely cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: vat and X lockup In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Mar 1996 16:02:28 CST." <199603052202.QAA06160@plains.nodak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 01:16:55 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>> Mark Tinguely said: > > we have a 133 pentium (asus pipe-line cache and edo ram), SMC power > ethernet, meteor, GUS MAX, Logitech mouse (tried it as a serial and PS/2 > with no change), ISA ATI Mach 64 video [yeah it should be a PCI > video but we needed the fourth PCI slot and the only X I could get to work w ith Try a different video card since you are using a SVGA server it should not be too hard. > I even pulled down Amanico's new sound drivers. it took me a while to > find the fine print that says GUS MAX should link /dev/audio to /dev/audio1. Okay, I will move up the comment in my the file rah.star-gate.com:/pub/Vat.info > By the way I could play all I want with new drivers with /dev/audio linked > to /dev/audio0, I simply got no sound. I am worry about this because it should work. > ***inbedded documentation question for Jim Lowe, just to see if he is > ***paying attention: the information about the new sound drivers looks > ***easy enough for me to add to my multimedia web page, is it still > ***true that vmix does not work with the new sound drivers or was that > ***changed with your newest sources? Well, I am paying attention 8) It will be great if you can add documentation on how to run vat and friends with the new sound driver. If you do and if you don't mind I can also modify vat that upon start up it prints a message pointing to your web page. You see the tool has to be strongly correlated to the documentation otherwise people are just going to post back to the mailing lists . Hopefully, a cool web page will be incentive enough for some to actually read the documentation 8) That is the case vmix has not been updated to use the new full duplex sound driver which is sort of okay since the new sound driver works mostly with GUS cards and I am not too sure about SB stuff. > there shouldn't be an IRQ duplication. The DOS setup liked IRQ 5 and DRQ 1 a nd > 3. The sound card works great (for hours) when X is not running. When I was > running the FreeBSD-2.1.0-RELEASE sound code, I even pulled out the ISA Mach > 64, and put in a PCI Mach 64 with the acellerated server and it ran much lon ger > and took more mouse abuse, but evenually the sound card started to whistle a nd > the machine locked up. I used the mouse as a serial and as a PS/2 mouse, no > difference. > > I guess someone is going to tell me to pull the edo memory because edo and > pipeline caches are bad, I will do this tommorrow. can anyone think of > anything else? Sure , move the card to a different slot --- trust me I have seen enought problems with poorly seated cards. Check your PCI Timers and if you can your ISA bus clock timing values. You may also be having problems with the VM system I remember Jim and I having problems with capturing video 640*480 just instantly crashing the system and in my case vat + vic would bring the system to a sure death. I ended up moving the matrox vm pages up a little and that cured my problem and on Jim's case a few revs of current and I think that his problem went away. Whatever the original source of the problem was weird and I am so glad that is gone ... Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 6 01:22:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA25653 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:22:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA25629 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:22:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA03792; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:21:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199603060921.BAA03792@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Stephen Hocking cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Location of latest current sound driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Mar 1996 16:37:37 +1000." <199603060637.GAA11442@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 01:21:05 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk The sound driver was modified by Brian Litzinger and you can fetch if from: rah.star-gate.com:/ftp/pub/snd01041996-2.2-current.tgz Amancio >>> Stephen Hocking said: > > Where's the location of the latest sound driver that runs under > current? I'm feeling brave enough to test the SB16 sound code. > > Stephen > -- > > I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - > They don't pay me enough for that! > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 6 06:47:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA24735 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 06:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA24730 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 06:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA08257; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 08:47:50 -0600 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 08:47:50 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199603061447.IAA08257@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu Subject: Re: vat and X lockup Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > ***easy enough for me to add to my multimedia web page, is it still > ***true that vmix does not work with the new sound drivers or was that > ***changed with your newest sources? Vmix doesn't work with the new sound drivers. I havn't put up the lastest sound drivers on my system yet. I am not sure if I will fix vmix or just fix the sound drivers in the kernel and try and eliminate vmix -- it will all depend on how much time I can spend on the problem. I have a 100mhz pentium, asus mb, edo drams, pipe-lined burst, etc... Here are a few things to try: o In the bios setup, make sure that drq 1,3 are dedicated to the isa bus, and your gus irq is also dedicated to the isa bus. o Check your BIOS and upgrade to the current version: http://192.72.126.1/Products/bios.html There were some PCI latency timer problems with older versions of the bios as well as a few other things. o Make sure your drams are 60ns. If you are running a 100 or a 133mhz system, the drams (edo or fpm) must be 60ns. For 90 or 120 mhz systems, 70ns is fine. If you are running a 133 mhz system with 70ns drams, slow it down to a 120 and things will probably work for you (abit slow:) or contact your vendor and exchange the 70ns for 60ns drams. o Upgrade the system to 2.1-stable or 2.2-current. Amancio and had some weird vm problems when he was running 2.1R and I was 2.2-current a month ago, but they have seem to have gone away in the current stuff. o There were some problems with asus pipe-lined cache modules. Try disabling the cache and see if the problem goes away. If it does, then contact your vendor and exchange the cache module. Can't think of anything else off hand. -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 6 07:41:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA28603 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 07:41:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA28577 Wed, 6 Mar 1996 07:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA27247; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 08:43:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 08:43:57 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199603061543.IAA27247@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 (310) , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: notebooks and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199603060630.WAA02818@rah.star-gate.com> References: <199603060630.WAA02818@rah.star-gate.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Does anyone have a good pointer for pcmia video grabbers and of > > course a point to how to program the pcimia grabber. Unless you get programming device from the manufacturer, you won't be able to program a grabber, but all the code for the PCMCIA stuff already exists in the current drivers. > But more basic, does FreeBSD run fine now on some of the latest SVGA > notebooks with sound support and CD-ROMs... Sound yes, CD-ROMS maybe. My NEC Versa P has an Ensonic Sound System on-board which runs in SB emulation under FreeBSD. If you can get the sound-drivers to work on a Sound-Blaster and/or get support for the ESS the new NECS will work. The built-in CD should work whenever we get generic EIDE support working on FreeBSD, but so far that's been hit and miss. > I understood that FreeBSD > wasn't quite yet up to speed in regards PCMCIA and sleep/resume support. I'm working on that now. > I'd be quite happy if I could merely use the MBONE tools in "receive" > mode... I think so. Nate From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 6 18:18:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA00404 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:18:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00390 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:18:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA08364 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:17:22 -0800 Message-Id: <199603070217.SAA08364@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Need help to test RAT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 18:17:22 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Anyone out there with a GUS working in full duplex that can lend a hand with RAT (Robust Audio Tool)? If so just send me e-mail... Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 6 18:26:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA02427 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:26:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA02403 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA08435 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:25:58 -0800 Message-Id: <199603070225.SAA08435@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: XFree86, Xinside and vat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 18:25:58 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Not sure what to make out of this however I feel that the list should at least be aware of the problem and possibly the solution. Enjoy, Amancio ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: tinguely@plains.nodak.edu Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA06565 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:13:39 -0800 Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id OAA08161 for hasty@rah.star-gate.com; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 14:13:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 14:13:42 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199603062013.OAA08161@plains.nodak.edu> To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: vat and X lockup vat/X status report. using the Xinside demo program vat and X no longer hang. the problem appears to be XFree86. - --mark. ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 6 20:02:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA21467 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 20:02:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA21460 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 20:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA09098 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 20:01:22 -0800 Message-Id: <199603070401.UAA09098@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: GUS PnP DDK released! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 20:01:22 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I don't have a lot of time right now so it is going to take a little while for me to provide native support for the GUS PnP. In the meantime, if anyone with a GUS PnP and can forge ahead with native GUS PnP support it will be great! ftp://ftp.gravis.com/FILES/pc/submit/IW_DDK.zip Happy hacking, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 6 21:37:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA03584 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:37:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.Ipsilon.COM (foo-5-10.Ipsilon.COM [205.226.5.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA03565 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:37:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mustang.ipsilon.com (mustang.Ipsilon.COM [205.226.1.196]) by mailhost.Ipsilon.COM (8.6.11/8.6.10) with ESMTP id VAA03658; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:36:59 -0800 Message-Id: <199603070536.VAA03658@mailhost.Ipsilon.COM> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG cc: mitzel@Ipsilon.COM Subject: does anyone get ``good'' audio quality with VAT and SoundBlaster? X-Face: #LKvtHE!M@StlYhO49AAd)7-Auiwd8XM;W0p8,4!$Dw4291RWt;Y$?_6B_,VC]0F+_R"Nkq;K/XJ*xRmNiSOjcY#cpqj-+[CaUY|qUJT0*$=}X43bBd9IH?WWm&E1G\rdvP5.DVTePe%|;=*p5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 21:37:59 -0800 From: "Danny J. Mitzel" Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I spent a bit of time setting up a local FreeBSD machine this week to try and tune into the IETF broadcasts, but have been very disappointed with the audio quality. I expected a lot of ``popping'' which I've read others complaining about with VAT and SoundBlaster, but there were many long periods of time where audio was too garbled to distinguish. the VAT broadcast must not have been using RTP because it could not display loss%, but the accompanying video only report ~1-5% loss, so I don't think that should be a problem. does anyone know if it's possible to get any use out of the SoundBlaster with VAT and I just need to keep tweaking, or should I just give up and see if I can swing a GUS board that everyone else seems to be gravitating towards? system vitals: Pentium 133MHz, endeavor motherboard with onboard SoundBlaster, 16MB memory, FreeBSD-2.1.0R, VoxWare Sound Driver:3.0-beta-950506, VAT 4.0a6. thanks for any info. danny From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 6 22:58:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA11261 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11252 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:58:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA10461; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:57:19 -0800 Message-Id: <199603070657.WAA10461@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: "Danny J. Mitzel" cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: does anyone get ``good'' audio quality with VAT and SoundBlaster? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Mar 1996 21:37:59 PST." <199603070536.VAA03658@mailhost.Ipsilon.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 22:57:18 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Use FreeBSD Lounge to troubleshoot the quality of your hardware and vat. For instance someone can volunteer to send a test sound stream. Typically, I test the system here locally and then go on to mbone broadcasts. Enjoy, Amancio >>> "Danny J. Mitzel" said: > I spent a bit of time setting up a local FreeBSD machine this week to > try and tune into the IETF broadcasts, but have been very disappointed > with the audio quality. I expected a lot of ``popping'' which I've read > others complaining about with VAT and SoundBlaster, but there were many > long periods of time where audio was too garbled to distinguish. the > VAT broadcast must not have been using RTP because it could not display > loss%, but the accompanying video only report ~1-5% loss, so I don't think > that should be a problem. does anyone know if it's possible to get any > use out of the SoundBlaster with VAT and I just need to keep tweaking, > or should I just give up and see if I can swing a GUS board that everyone > else seems to be gravitating towards? > > system vitals: Pentium 133MHz, endeavor motherboard with onboard SoundBlaste r, > 16MB memory, FreeBSD-2.1.0R, VoxWare Sound Driver:3.0-beta-950506, > VAT 4.0a6. > > thanks for any info. > danny > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 01:03:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA20846 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 01:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (pp@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA20836 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 01:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <29613-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:58:06 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id SAA09485 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:58:05 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id JAA11829 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:01:47 GMT Message-Id: <199603070901.JAA11829@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Damned SB16 & new sound code. X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 19:01:45 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk First observations with a SB16 and the new sound code. 1) Running with my normal config file, the built kernel only picked up the sb part of the card (as opposed to the sbpro & sb16 bits). It did complain about it after noticing that the version number was more than could be expected for a plain jane sb classic. 2) I also had to wrap adintr in soundcard.c with #if defined(CONFIG_AD1848). 3) I went through local.h and defined CONFIG_SBPRO & CONFIG_SB16 in an effort to get the card going. Upon compilation there were heaps of errors in sb16_dsp.c, mostly relating to IMODE_NONE, DSP_DATA_AVL16, IMODE_OUTPUT & IMODE_INPUT being undefined. I guess this means that it has to be converted over, right? 4) The sound output seems very clicky - i.e. you can hear the gaps between writes using the NAS server, which you don't on the old driver. Some comments - are we going to fix things up so that the sb16 devices will be picked up automagically like they were before (and how do we do this)? Has anyone done all this work for the PAS16 (which I may be trying next) Stephen -- I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - They don't pay me enough for that! From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 02:01:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA23991 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 02:01:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (pp@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA23986 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 02:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <04916-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 20:01:38 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id TAA10348 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:33:17 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id JAA12367 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:36:58 GMT Message-Id: <199603070936.JAA12367@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: More on SB16 & new sound code. X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 19:36:57 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've just found the problem with sb16_dsp.c. It needs #include "sbcard.h" It's also smoother than a plain sb card. I do note that the kernel did not find my opl0 device, perhaps becuase (once again!) I don't have the appropriate defines in local.h. Stephen -- I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - They don't pay me enough for that! From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 02:03:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA24035 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 02:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA24026 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 02:02:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <04920-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 20:01:41 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id TAA10405 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:46:34 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id JAA12548 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:50:15 GMT Message-Id: <199603070950.JAA12548@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Yet more on the SB16 X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 19:50:14 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Recording under NAS (which'll be using /dev/dsp to both record & play) did not appear to work. It's getiing late so I'll have to be getting home, will try recording direct from the device once I get back to work. Stephen -- I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - They don't pay me enough for that! From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 03:12:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA29332 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 03:12:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA29325 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 03:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA15550; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 03:18:59 -0800 Message-Id: <199603071118.DAA15550@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: does anyone get ``good'' audio quality with VAT and SoundBlaster? To: mitzel@Ipsilon.COM (Danny J. Mitzel) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 03:18:59 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian Litzinger" Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, mitzel@Ipsilon.COM In-Reply-To: <199603070536.VAA03658@mailhost.Ipsilon.COM> from "Danny J. Mitzel" at Mar 6, 96 09:37:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I spent a bit of time setting up a local FreeBSD machine this week to > try and tune into the IETF broadcasts, but have been very disappointed > with the audio quality. I expected a lot of ``popping'' which I've read > others complaining about with VAT and SoundBlaster, but there were many > long periods of time where audio was too garbled to distinguish. the > VAT broadcast must not have been using RTP because it could not display > loss%, but the accompanying video only report ~1-5% loss, so I don't think > that should be a problem. does anyone know if it's possible to get any > use out of the SoundBlaster with VAT and I just need to keep tweaking, > or should I just give up and see if I can swing a GUS board that everyone > else seems to be gravitating towards? Just so you don't feel alone. My 486DX4/100 system with GusMax and vat work pretty well. My laptop with 486DX4/100 and SB1.5 sounds like garbage, though speak-free and nas sound fine. Brian Litzinger brian@Mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 10:23:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA27335 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:23:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27327 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:23:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA04857; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:18:15 -0800 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:18:14 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Danny J. Mitzel" cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, mitzel@ipsilon.com Subject: Re: does anyone get ``good'' audio quality with VAT and SoundBlaster? In-Reply-To: <199603070536.VAA03658@mailhost.Ipsilon.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Danny J. Mitzel wrote: > I spent a bit of time setting up a local FreeBSD machine this week to > try and tune into the IETF broadcasts, but have been very disappointed > with the audio quality. I expected a lot of ``popping'' which I've read > others complaining about with VAT and SoundBlaster, but there were many > long periods of time where audio was too garbled to distinguish. That is the SB. I have an SB AWE32 and it does the same thing. Apparently the SB can't hold up a constant sample rate, and it fluctuates too wildly for vat to keep up. If it gets too nasty, try opening the vat menu or doing something to stop the audio stream briefly; that seems to reset it and it should sound OK for a bit. What's the status on the new SB driver? And does anyone think that a GUS could coexist with my AWE32? I like my AWE so much I don't want to give it up, but I want vat to sound halfway decent. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 10:26:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA27632 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:26:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27625 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:26:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA13564 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:25:34 -0800 Message-Id: <199603071825.KAA13564@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: mpeg programs? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 10:25:34 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I noticed that Mark Tinguely's Web Page does not mentioned anything about creating mpeg sound or video files. Anyone care to send him pointers! Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 10:34:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA28370 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA28360 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA09489 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:33:05 -0800 Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA13619 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:30:44 -0800 Message-Id: <199603071830.KAA13619@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: VGA to NTSC? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 10:30:44 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am looking around for a VGA to NTSC converter . Can anyone recommend one? Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 10:43:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA29038 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:43:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA29032 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:43:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA09639 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:43:36 -0800 Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA13731 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:41:31 -0800 Message-Id: <199603071841.KAA13731@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: DDKMANUL.DOC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 10:41:30 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone convert the GUS PnP's manual from Word format to Postscript? You can fetch the manual from: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/DDKMANUL.DOC Tnks! Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 12:34:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA06241 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:34:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA06236 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:34:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA14593; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:28:18 -0800 Message-Id: <199603072028.MAA14593@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: "Danny J. Mitzel" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: does anyone get ``good'' audio quality with VAT and SoundBlaster? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Mar 1996 10:18:14 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 12:28:16 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I naturally recommend dumping the AWE32 for the purposes of audio conferencing. The deal with most of this soundcards with respect to install them on FreeBSD is to be able to properly configure the cards so they don't get on their way. I would look at the jumper settings or sofware configuration for the AWE 32 and at the GUS PnP and configure them accordingly. I sure hope for the sake of the Creative Lab fans that Creative labs comes out with a suitable dual dma and clock synchronized soundcard. As for me , I first started out with a SB , SB16 and then PAS16 before settling down with the GUS cards. Amancio >>> Doug White said: > On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Danny J. Mitzel wrote: > > > I spent a bit of time setting up a local FreeBSD machine this week to > > try and tune into the IETF broadcasts, but have been very disappointed > > with the audio quality. I expected a lot of ``popping'' which I've read > > others complaining about with VAT and SoundBlaster, but there were many > > long periods of time where audio was too garbled to distinguish. > > That is the SB. I have an SB AWE32 and it does the same thing. > Apparently the SB can't hold up a constant sample rate, and it fluctuates > too wildly for vat to keep up. If it gets too nasty, try opening the vat > menu or doing something to stop the audio stream briefly; that seems to > reset it and it should sound OK for a bit. > > What's the status on the new SB driver? > > And does anyone think that a GUS could coexist with my AWE32? I like my > AWE so much I don't want to give it up, but I want vat to sound halfway > decent. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 15:15:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA04685 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:15:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04558 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id KAA03259 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:15:01 +1100 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:14:57 +1100 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: multimedia@freebsd.org, multimedia@star-gate.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: sdr with vat-and-half Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know what is involved with using sdr with vat-and-half. Is it going to want to use vmix/xmix, and is that going to be a problem, and if so, nwhat can I do about it ? (I will be recruiting help to test this stuff on the weekend.) Anthony Hill From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 18:15:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA26351 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:15:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (pp@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA26302 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:15:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <16888-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:14:25 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id MAA18620; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:14:23 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id CAA24602; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 02:18:11 GMT Message-Id: <199603080218.CAA24602@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org cc: hannu@voxware.pp.fi, Hannu.Savolainen@cctap.carel.fi Subject: Full duplex devices & the SB16 X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 12:18:09 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've been having a bit of a think about this. As you know, it is possible (and I have some DOS code) to do full duplex audio with the SB16, with the 16bit channel in one direction and the 8bit in the other. This does not fit in with our model of the world (identical capabilities both ways) so what I was thinking of was converting the data to/from 16/bit when copying in/out to/from the user. For cards like the PAS16 we could also do something similar, with stereo<->mono conversion as well. I don't know about rate conversion where the different channels have different limits on the maximum sampling rate (such as the PAS16). I could swipe some code from the NAS server for this. Stephen -- I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - They don't pay me enough for that! From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 18:21:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA27184 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.okbmei.msk.su (ns.okbmei.msk.su [194.190.170.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27170 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:21:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from kiae.UUCP by ns.okbmei.msk.su with UUCP id AA01234 (5.67c8/IDA-1.5); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 05:13:40 +0300 Received: from freefall.FreeBSD.ORG by sequent.kiae.su with SMTP id AA24508 (5.65.kiae-2 for ); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 05:09:21 +0300 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06980 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA04711 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:15:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04558 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id KAA03259 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:15:01 +1100 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:14:57 +1100 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org, multimedia@star-gate.com, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: sdr with vat-and-half Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Charset: KOI8-R X-Char-Esc: 29 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know what is involved with using sdr with vat-and-half. Is it going to want to use vmix/xmix, and is that going to be a problem, and if so, nwhat can I do about it ? (I will be recruiting help to test this stuff on the weekend.) Anthony Hill From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 20:52:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA09983 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 20:52:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from personal.eunet.fi (personal.eunet.fi [192.26.119.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA09976 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 20:52:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from voxware (voxware.pp.fi) by personal.eunet.fi with SMTP id AA16912 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:52:01 +0200 Received: (from hannu@localhost) by voxware (8.6.12/8.6.9) id GAA00231; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:50:23 +0200 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:50:23 +0200 (EET) From: Hannu Savolainen X-Sender: hannu@voxware To: Stephen Hocking Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Full duplex devices & the SB16 In-Reply-To: <199603080218.CAA24602@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Stephen Hocking wrote: > I've been having a bit of a think about this. As you know, it is possible (and > I have some DOS code) to do full duplex audio with the SB16, with the 16bit > channel in one direction and the 8bit in the other. This does not fit in with > our model of the world (identical capabilities both ways) so what I was > thinking of was converting the data to/from 16/bit when copying in/out to/from I have had similar idea. It could be possible to implement this kind of things in later versions (3.6 or 3.7). The biggest task is propably testing the changes and ensuring that it doesn't break other programs not using the full duplex feature. Best regards, Hannu ----------------------------- Hannu Savolainen http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/voxware/hannu.html (my home page) http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/voxware (TASD's/VoxWare's home page) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 21:35:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA12737 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:35:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12732 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA18484; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:33:29 -0800 Message-Id: <199603080533.VAA18484@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: "Brian Litzinger" cc: mitzel@Ipsilon.COM (Danny J. Mitzel), freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does anyone get ``good'' audio quality with VAT and SoundBlaster? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Mar 1996 03:18:59 PST." <199603071118.DAA15550@MediaCity.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 21:33:29 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>> "Brian Litzinger" said: > My laptop with 486DX4/100 and SB1.5 sounds like garbage, > > though speak-free and nas sound fine. > Hi, speak-free nor nas open/close rapidly the sound card at least not as much as vat or any audio tool which uses the sound card as a timer. Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 21:48:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA13773 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:48:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from silver.sms.fi (root@silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA13757 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:48:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA13639; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:51:23 +0200 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:51:23 +0200 Message-Id: <199603080551.HAA13639@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, "Danny J. Mitzel" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: does anyone get ``good'' audio quality with VAT and SoundBlaster? In-Reply-To: <199603072028.MAA14593@rah.star-gate.com> References: <199603072028.MAA14593@rah.star-gate.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty, Jr. writes: > I naturally recommend dumping the AWE32 for the purposes of > audio conferencing. > [...cut...] > > I sure hope for the sake of the Creative Lab fans that Creative labs > comes out with a suitable dual dma and clock synchronized soundcard. > Just as a datapoint, I've successfully used SB16 for full-duplex conferencing in Win95 environment and the webphone application. Don't know what magic is in there but no clicks nor breaks were heard during 30 to 45 minute talks. I do run my freebsd with PAS-16 though... Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 7 22:01:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA14744 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 22:01:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA14737 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 22:01:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA18749; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 22:00:33 -0800 Message-Id: <199603080600.WAA18749@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Petri Helenius cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: does anyone get ``good'' audio quality with VAT and SoundBlaster? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Mar 1996 07:51:23 +0200." <199603080551.HAA13639@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 22:00:32 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>> Petri Helenius said: > Just as a datapoint, I've successfully used SB16 for full-duplex > conferencing in Win95 environment and the webphone application. > Don't know what magic is in there but no clicks nor breaks were > heard during 30 to 45 minute talks. I do run my freebsd with PAS-16 > though... > > Pete Tnks a lot for the pointer ! We just basically need someone who knows Creative Labs hardware well enough to support it in our environment. I don't own any Creative Lab soundcards nor wish to own one. Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 8 03:42:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA04190 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 03:42:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.okbmei.msk.su (ns.okbmei.msk.su [194.190.170.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA04076 Fri, 8 Mar 1996 03:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from kiae.UUCP by ns.okbmei.msk.su with UUCP id AA06887 (5.67c8/IDA-1.5); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:10:44 +0300 Received: from freefall.FreeBSD.ORG by sequent.kiae.su with SMTP id AA24635 (5.65.kiae-2 for ); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:56:21 +0300 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27250 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:22:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA27199 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.okbmei.msk.su (ns.okbmei.msk.su [194.190.170.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27170 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:21:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from kiae.UUCP by ns.okbmei.msk.su with UUCP id AA01234 (5.67c8/IDA-1.5); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 05:13:40 +0300 Received: from freefall.FreeBSD.ORG by sequent.kiae.su with SMTP id AA24508 (5.65.kiae-2 for ); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 05:09:21 +0300 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06980 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA04711 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:15:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04558 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id KAA03259 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:15:01 +1100 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:14:57 +1100 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org, multimedia@star-gate.com, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: sdr with vat-and-half Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Charset: KOI8-R X-Char-Esc: 29 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Does anyone know what is involved with using sdr with vat-and-half. Is it going to want to use vmix/xmix, and is that going to be a problem, and if so, nwhat can I do about it ? (I will be recruiting help to test this stuff on the weekend.) Anthony Hill From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 8 07:45:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA24951 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:45:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA24896 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com ([205.138.147.242]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id HAA26222 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:27:42 -0800 Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA13312 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:21:22 -0600 Received: from tserv.lodgenet.com(204.124.120.10) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma013307; Fri Mar 8 09:20:58 1996 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.30]) by tserv.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA12053; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:01:54 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA24368; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:14:01 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603081514.JAA24368@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: "Amancio Hasty Jr." cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VGA to NTSC? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Mar 1996 10:30:44 PST." <199603071830.KAA13619@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 09:14:00 -0600 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk we use some STB cards that have vga and ntsc outputs on the back, they ain't the best, but it's broadcast quality. It's just a matter of a couple inb/outb's to re-sync the port to ntsc. There's also a company in Minneapolis called Visual Circuits that makes scan converters and other fun toys, I'm playing with some of their mpeg stuff now. check out http://www.vcircuits.com/ > > Hi, > > I am looking around for a VGA to NTSC converter . Can anyone recommend > one? > > Tnks, > Amancio > eric. -- erich@lodgenet.com erich@rrnet.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 8 07:45:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA24981 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA24936 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:45:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from charlotte.spiders.com (charlotte.spiders.com [199.224.7.188]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id HAA26006 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:05:49 -0800 Received: (from gwh@localhost) by charlotte.spiders.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA04739; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:08:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199603081508.KAA04739@charlotte.spiders.com> From: gwh@spiders.com (Gene W Homicki) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:08:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Amancio Hasty Jr."'s message as of Mar 7, 10:41 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: "Amancio Hasty Jr." , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DDKMANUL.DOC Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk +--- | Can anyone convert the GUS PnP's manual from Word format to Postscript? | | You can fetch the manual from: | ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/DDKMANUL.DOC +--- ftp://ftp.spiders.com/pub/freebsd/ddk.ps.gz or http://www.spiders.com/freebsd/ --Gene -- Gene W. Homicki gwh@spiders.com Objective Consulting, Inc. http://www.spiders.com/ Internet Presence Design voice: +1 914.353.3511 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 8 07:45:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA24994 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA24945 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:45:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from charlotte.spiders.com (charlotte.spiders.com [199.224.7.188]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id HAA26053 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:12:18 -0800 Received: (from gwh@localhost) by charlotte.spiders.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA04788; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:14:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199603081514.KAA04788@charlotte.spiders.com> From: gwh@spiders.com (Gene W Homicki) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:14:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: Doug White's message as of Mar 7, 10:18 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, "Danny J. Mitzel" Subject: Re: does anyone get ``good'' audio quality with VAT and SoundBlaster? Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk +--- | And does anyone think that a GUS could coexist with my AWE32? I like my | AWE so much I don't want to give it up, but I want vat to sound halfway | decent. +--- After quite a bit of tinkering, I was able to get a GUS MAX and an SB Pro to coexist. Its probably possible to do with the AWE32, but I'll bet its not a "fun" thing to do. I did very little testing with the SB Pro because the sound quality rots. --Gene -- Gene W. Homicki gwh@spiders.com Objective Consulting, Inc. http://www.spiders.com/ Internet Presence Design voice: +1 914.353.3511 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 8 08:40:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA28319 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com ([205.138.147.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA28242 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA14287 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:33:40 -0600 Received: from tserv.lodgenet.com(204.124.120.10) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma014285; Fri Mar 8 10:33:20 1996 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.30]) by tserv.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA12934; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:14:17 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA24986; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:26:23 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603081626.KAA24986@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: "Amancio Hasty Jr." cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mpeg programs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Mar 1996 10:25:34 PST." <199603071825.KAA13564@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 10:26:22 -0600 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I did an infoseek on mpeg and got thousands of pointers to video stuff. have you got any info on encoding audio? eric. > > Hi, > > I noticed that Mark Tinguely's Web Page does not mentioned anything > about creating mpeg sound or video files. Anyone care to send him > pointers! > > Tnks, > Amancio > -- erich@lodgenet.com erich@rrnet.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 8 09:56:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA02378 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02372 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA23873; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:55:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199603081755.JAA23873@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: gwh@spiders.com (Gene W Homicki) cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: DDKMANUL.DOC In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Mar 1996 10:08:15 EST." <199603081508.KAA04739@charlotte.spiders.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 09:55:30 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Tnks guys! Gene W. Homicki gwh@spiders.com "Louis A. Mamakos" I had problems with viewing the documents with postscript however my printer is able to print them ... Again tnks a lot! Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 8 10:25:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA03574 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:25:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03569 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:25:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA28524 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:22:13 -0800 Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id TAA13750 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 19:17:01 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199603081817.TAA13750@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Any video mpeg/avi encoder out there ? To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 19:17:01 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I have modified the all-purpose "tv" program to dump raw data to a file, (and to read it back as well, so that I have a simple VCR on my HD). Apart from a couple of problems (don't know the exact frame rate, and the HD is a bit too fast when playing back...) it pretty much works as expected. Now I'd like to do some compression of the images to produce a more portable video format, such as AVI or MPEG. Is there any sw compressor that I can use ? Thanks Luigi ==================================================================== Luigi Rizzo Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ ==================================================================== From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 8 15:17:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA21308 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21280 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:17:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from wa3ymh.transsys.com (#6@wa3ymh.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.42]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id FAA24989 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 05:26:14 -0800 Received: from wa3ymh.transsys.com (#6@localhost.TransSys.COM [127.0.0.1]) by wa3ymh.transsys.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00981; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:26:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199603081326.IAA00981@wa3ymh.transsys.com> To: "Amancio Hasty Jr." cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: DDKMANUL.DOC In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Mar 1996 10:41:30 PST." <199603071841.KAA13731@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 08:26:06 -0500 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I've put a copy of the gzip'ed PostScript manual on FTP.UU.NET: ftp://ftp.uu.net/vendor/TransSys/iwave.ps.gz louie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 8 17:36:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA03110 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 17:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03104 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 17:36:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA00259 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 17:36:12 -0800 (PST) To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: isa_dmastart: channel 3 busy Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 17:36:12 -0800 Message-ID: <257.826335372@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I still get this consistently with any audio app running under -current. Any ideas, folks? Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 9 10:47:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA15514 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 10:47:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15504 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 10:47:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA13709; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 12:47:08 -0600 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 12:47:08 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199603091847.MAA13709@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: isa_dmastart: channel 3 busy Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk This is what I have applied to isa.c for the last 2-3 months after each sup :-(. It is gross, it is ugly, but it does make my sound work. -Jim ------------------------------isa.c.patch--------------------- *** isa.xx.c Thu Mar 7 08:15:28 1996 --- isa.c Thu Mar 7 08:16:19 1996 *************** *** 634,641 **** --- 634,643 ---- || (chan >= 4 && (nbytes > (1<<17) || (u_int)addr & 1))) panic("isa_dmastart: impossible request"); + #ifdef notdef if (dma_busy[chan]) printf("isa_dmastart: channel %u busy\n", chan); + #endif dma_busy[chan] = 1; if (isa_dmarangecheck(addr, nbytes, chan)) { if (dma_bouncebuf[chan] == NULL *************** *** 726,733 **** --- 728,737 ---- void isa_dmadone(int flags, caddr_t addr, int nbytes, int chan) { + #ifdef notdef if (!dma_busy[chan]) printf("isa_dmadone: channel %d not busy\n", chan); + #endif if (dma_bounced[chan]) { /* copy bounce buffer on read */ if (flags & B_READ) *************** *** 743,750 **** --- 747,756 ---- unsigned chan; { + #ifdef notdef if (!dma_busy[chan]) printf("isa_dmadone_nobounce: channel %u not busy\n", chan); + #endif if (dma_bounced[chan]) { printf("isa_dmadone_nobounce: channel %u bounced\n", chan); dma_bounced[chan] = 0; From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 9 23:52:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA00935 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA00917 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA12334; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:52:29 -0800 (PST) To: Sujal Patel cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa isa.c In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Mar 1996 01:31:13 EST." Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 23:52:29 -0800 Message-ID: <12332.826444349@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Of course, not printing out the error messages doesn't solve the problem :-) Yes, I know. I just wanted to shut things up until we could figure out how to deal with the problem another way. It's been happening for many weeks now. [The rest of the letter is included for the benefit of freebsd-multimedia since I don't think that everyone involved is on the cvs-committers list - thanks!] Jordan > We need to fix the sound code. What do you guys think of fixing it this way: > > Break isa_dmastart() into a two routines: > > int isa_acquire_dma() Registers the channel as busy > Returns 0 on success. > > void isa_dmastart() Does the rest of what the current > isa_dmastart() does. > > This will allow the sound device (and others??) to register it's DMA > channel usage on open() and then use isa_dmastart() when the driver is > sending data to the sound card. This will also give us the correct > behavior of denying access to /dev/dsp1 when /dev/dsp is open (on > non-duplexed cards). > > The error messages that we recv. now will be cleared up because it'll > only check the channel's busy status on open() [in the sound driver]. > > Also, I think we should remove the isa_dmadone_nobounce() function. > Since the sound driver maintains it's own DMA buffer, the arguments will > never be checked because (dma_bounced[chan] == 0) [ if something goes > wrong with that, then we deserve a panic :-) ]. This was originally > designed as a kludge anyway. > > None of this will affect any of the other drivers that use these > routines, and this will fix a lot of bogus stuff in the sound drivers DMA > handling. I'd be happy to implement this and update all of the > appropriate ISA drivers, if someone could bless this (maybe Bruce, it > looks like he wrote the original code for this?) > > > Sujal >