From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 00:26:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA25456 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 00:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA25446 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 00:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr [134.157.72.87]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with SMTP id JAA26945 ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:25:33 +0200 (METDST) Received: from iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr (iaka) by mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jn930126+af960507(mailhost)) at Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:25:00 +0100 Received: by iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jf930126) at Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:24:59 +0100 Message-Id: <199607140824.AA19833@iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr> Subject: Re: MSDOS file systems.s To: jjal@remus.rutgers.edu (Joshua Lambert) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:24:58 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: "Alain FAUCONNET" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607140606.CAA24694@remus.rutgers.edu> from "Joshua Lambert" at Jul 14, 96 02:06:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joshua Lambert wrote / a ecrit: > > How would I go about mounting a msdos filesystem on HD 0 Partition 1.on-a > I have figured out how to mount a floppy but what is he device name for theave > HD? mount -r -t msdos /dev/wd0s1 /dosc ^^ ^^^^^-- or whatever empty directory that | must exist (such as /mnt) +---- not mandatory (makes a read-only mount) but recommended if you value the data on your DOS partition. The msdsos filesystem of FreeBSD is not *that* reliable yet > BTW, how can I use the handbook? It's on my HD... > I can't access it. It says permission denied. And I'm using root.' > thanks./ > lynx /usr/share/doc/handbook/handbook.html or: more /usr/share/doc/handbook/handbook.ascii Hope that helps, _Alain_ -- Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM Public Health 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE Medical Computing Research Labs Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68 I've RTFMed. It says: "Refer to your system administrator" But... I *am* the system administrator :-] From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 01:02:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA01007 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 01:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA00979 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 01:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ufM8P-000Qc7C; Sun, 14 Jul 96 10:02 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA21515; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:28:22 +0200 Message-Id: <199607140728.JAA21515@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD CD Installation To: tcg@ime.net Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:28:22 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <31E7D76C.3BEE@ime.net> from "Gary Chrysler" at Jul 13, 96 01:05:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Chrysler writes: > > Greg Lehey wrote: >> > >> >> BTW, Gary's reply could have been construed to suggest that you can >> have more than one slave on an IDE interface. That's not the case: >> you can have exactly two configurations: >> >> - 1 drive only >> - 2 drives; one master, one slave. >> > > If thats how it read, I am sorry. That was _not_ my meaning! > No you cannot have TWO masters or TWO slaves on the same > interface! One must be master the other must be slave! Watch my lips: "Gary's reply could have been construed to suggest that you can have more than one slave on an IDE interface." I didn't want to imply that you had said that, but that's what I understood the first time I read it through, and I wanted to make sure that nobody else came to the wrong conclusion. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 01:22:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA03237 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 01:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.aros.net (mailhub.aros.net [205.164.111.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA03227 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 01:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.10]) by mailhub.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) with ESMTP id CAA24652; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 02:24:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id CAA04875; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 02:21:58 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199607140821.CAA04875@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: -questions list speed. To: tcg@ime.net Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 02:21:58 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31E7F369.50A3@ime.net> from "Gary Chrysler" at Jul 13, 96 03:05:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Looking at the headers, it appears that the delay is happening between freefall and harborcom.net. I'll scan through the mail and see if I can see any that are handled by my mailer machine as an intermediary (I'm one of a few) and check if the delay is similar. I'd wager it would be, and I'd also wager it depends on list traffic to freefall at that time, unless harborcom.net is experiencing transient delays. -Dave Andersen Headers: >From owner-freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Sat Jul 13 13:46:26 1996 Received: from ns2.harborcom.net (root@ns2.harborcom.net [206.158.4.4]) by terra .aros.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA32280 for ; Sat, 13 Ju l 1996 13:46:25 -0600 Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.4]) by ns2.harborcom.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA23325; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:45:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA05058; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA04835 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04830 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-2.ime.net [206.231.148.131]) by ime.net Lo and behold, Gary Chrysler once said: > > Is it normal for a message to take over an hour to make it's loop. > > Lets say I post a message to -questions, It's over an hour before > I get my own message back on -questions. Is this normal. > > I would think it would be a couple minutes at most even though I > am in Maine and FreeBSD.org is in Calif. (My home state) > > -Enjoy > Gary > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours > The Borg... Where minds meet > (207) 929-3848 > -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to their customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 01:22:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA03300 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 01:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA03268; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 01:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id KAA23594; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:22:07 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA20631; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:22:06 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id KAA15641; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:04:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607140804.KAA15641@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Jaz drive questions To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:04:15 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: Stephen.Couchman@imagenet.on.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, n_melhor@Telebit.COM Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607132245.IAA03964@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from Bruce Evans at "Jul 14, 96 08:45:47 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Bruce Evans wrote: > > sd1(ahc0:2:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in > > CDB sd1 could not mode sense (4). Using ficticious > > geometry 1021MB (2091050 512 byte sectors) > > This means that FreeBSD _did_ recognize the drive. Iomega apparently > didn't bother to implement the SCSI mode sense command, so the driver > can't determine anything about the number of heads or sectors/track > on the disk (if any). That's not true. Of course, they did implement a MODE SENSE command (it's optional per the SCSI specs, but certainly implemented in any disk drive). It's possible that they didn't implement mode page 4 ("Rigid disk drive geometry page"), or that FreeBSD has some other incorrect setting when performing the MODE SENSE. You will only be sure after turning on debugging, and comparing step by step with IOmega's SCSI specs. The claimed number of sectors looks highly suspicious: it's IMHO 10 x too large. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 01:46:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA06379 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 01:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA06360 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 01:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA02809; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 04:46:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: hmmm cc: questions@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: snmp In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:28:22 PDT." <31E6A756.3C7D@alaska.net> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 04:46:23 -0400 Message-ID: <2805.837333983@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hmmm wrote in message ID <31E6A756.3C7D@alaska.net>: > what SNMP managers/agents & mib compilers are recommended for FreeBSD > 2.1.5 ? ucd-snmp probably has the best freebsd support, and will be in 2.1.5 ports and packages. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 03:04:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA18704 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 03:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com ([206.245.251.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA18692; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 03:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA14806; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 03:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607141004.DAA14806@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Jaz drive questions To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 03:04:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "JULIAN Elischer" Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, Stephen.Couchman@imagenet.on.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, n_melhor@Telebit.COM In-Reply-To: <199607140804.KAA15641@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jul 14, 96 10:04:15 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > As Bruce Evans wrote: > > > > sd1(ahc0:2:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in > > > CDB sd1 could not mode sense (4). Using ficticious > > > geometry 1021MB (2091050 512 byte sectors) > > > > This means that FreeBSD _did_ recognize the drive. Iomega apparently > > didn't bother to implement the SCSI mode sense command, so the driver > > can't determine anything about the number of heads or sectors/track > > on the disk (if any). > > That's not true. Of course, they did implement a MODE SENSE command > (it's optional per the SCSI specs, but certainly implemented in any > disk drive). It's possible that they didn't implement mode page 4 > ("Rigid disk drive geometry page"), or that FreeBSD has some other > incorrect setting when performing the MODE SENSE. You will only be > sure after turning on debugging, and comparing step by step with > IOmega's SCSI specs. the geometry is in fact unimportant.. the ficticious one should work just fine.. > > The claimed number of sectors looks highly suspicious: it's IMHO > 10 x too large. > > -- > cheers, J"org > > joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE > Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 04:47:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA15797 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 04:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hestia.ccs.deakin.edu.au (hestia.ccs.deakin.edu.au [128.184.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA15774 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 04:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bajor.ccs.deakin.edu.au (bajor.ccs.deakin.edu.au [139.132.19.1]) by hestia.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.7.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA05643 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:47:32 +1000 (EST) From: Adam Jenkins Received: (from awj@localhost) by bajor.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.7.4/8.7.1) id VAA05213 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:47:32 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:47:32 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199607141147.VAA05213@bajor.ccs.deakin.edu.au> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: base distribution Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry I couldnt find this in the FAQ etc, but hey at least it is an easy question! :) What is does the base distribution (bin.aa-az, bin.ba-bz, bin.c-p) consist of, and which option is it from the instsll menu? Thanks.. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 05:25:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA26417 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 05:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (s_koyin@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.6.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA26404 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 05:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from s_koyin@localhost) by eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA20810 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:26:06 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:26:06 +1000 (EST) From: HMG coA reductase Message-Id: <199607141226.WAA20810@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: dumb terminals Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi, i'd like advice on hooking up a dumb terminal to my FreeBSD box. i connected this laptop to my desktop with a serial laplink cable, set the /etc/ttys nicely, set up Windows Terminal on the laptop, but did not get a login: prompt. everything looks fine on the FreeBSD side, getty was running, and stty for ttyd0 shows desired settings. any advice? ivan From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 05:42:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA28497 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 05:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA28490 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 05:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-16.ime.net [206.231.148.145]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA08595; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 08:41:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E8EB21.5A13@ime.net> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 08:42:09 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: -questions list speed. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White wrote: > > On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > > > Is it normal for a message to take over an hour to make it's loop. > > Hm. I don't usually look at the timestamp on when my messages come back, > but they usually start coming in while I'm still reading mail, so I'd say > I get 15 minutes loop time if that. > I don't actually look at the stamps either, I just know when I send one and know when it comes back. > > Lets say I post a message to -questions, It's over an hour before > > I get my own message back on -questions. Is this normal. > > > I would think it would be a couple minutes at most even though I > > am in Maine and FreeBSD.org is in Calif. (My home state) > > Depends on load on the mail server and the intervening distribution systems. > I realize load is an issue, My data to FreeBSD.org does in fact go through MCI SuperSlowWay. Crusing FreeBSD for me SUXS big time during the busy times! I usually wait untill the middle of the night PST. (Way early in the AM for me, EST) I was under the impression that a sending mail host contacted the recieving mail host directly if possiable. Thus a minute or so to send, a minute or so to recieve. 15 minutes I can see, Over an hour though! Seems a bit long. But if your are getting 15 minute turn arounds it must be something towards my end. One of these days when I get brave again I'll fireup my PPP on FreeBSD and connect to my ISP and trace the route! No protection from outside intruders, One of these days I'll figure out and intall wrappers or the like. :) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 05:52:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA29077 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 05:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA29071 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 05:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA05276; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 05:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607141252.FAA05276@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: tcg@ime.net cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: -questions list speed. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 14 Jul 1996 08:42:09 EDT." <31E8EB21.5A13@ime.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 05:52:20 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: >> >> > Is it normal for a message to take over an hour to make it's loop. >> >> Hm. I don't usually look at the timestamp on when my messages come back, >> but they usually start coming in while I'm still reading mail, so I'd say >> I get 15 minutes loop time if that. >> > >I don't actually look at the stamps either, I just know when I send >one and know when it comes back. > >> > Lets say I post a message to -questions, It's over an hour before >> > I get my own message back on -questions. Is this normal. >> >> > I would think it would be a couple minutes at most even though I >> > am in Maine and FreeBSD.org is in Calif. (My home state) >> >> Depends on load on the mail server and the intervening distribution systems. >> > >I realize load is an issue, My data to FreeBSD.org does in fact >go through MCI SuperSlowWay. >Crusing FreeBSD for me SUXS big time during the busy times! >I usually wait untill the middle of the night PST. >(Way early in the AM for me, EST) > >I was under the impression that a sending mail host contacted the >recieving mail host directly if possiable. > >Thus a minute or so to send, a minute or so to recieve. >15 minutes I can see, Over an hour though! Seems a bit long. Uhh, people, look, you aren't the only ones on the mailing list. There are several *thousand* people on these lists. It's amazing that we are able to deliever the email the same *day*. :-) ...so please don't complain about a few minutes of lag time. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 06:03:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA00165 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 06:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA00141 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 06:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA06237 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 14 Jul 1996 06:03:08 -0700 Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ufPsc-000QbsC; Sun, 14 Jul 96 14:02 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA21801; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 13:33:16 +0200 Message-Id: <199607141133.NAA21801@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: -questions list speed. To: tcg@ime.net Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 13:33:16 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <31E7F369.50A3@ime.net> from "Gary Chrysler" at Jul 13, 96 03:05:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Chrysler writes: > > Is it normal for a message to take over an hour to make it's loop. > > Lets say I post a message to -questions, It's over an hour before > I get my own message back on -questions. Is this normal. No, I'd say it's relatively fast. > I would think it would be a couple minutes at most even though I > am in Maine and FreeBSD.org is in Calif. (My home state) It's not the time between California and Maine that takes up the time. It's the number of messages that are being handled concurrently on freefall, and the way that sendmail works: it tries each destination sequentially, and there are bound to be some that aren't responding. By the time sendmail gets round to you, hours could have passed. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 06:03:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA00225 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 06:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA00195 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 06:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA06265 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 14 Jul 1996 06:03:18 -0700 Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ufPsd-000Qc1C; Sun, 14 Jul 96 14:02 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA21855; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 13:57:39 +0200 Message-Id: <199607141157.NAA21855@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Help : kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? To: matt@bdd.net (Matthew Stein) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 13:57:39 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: from "Matthew Stein" at Jul 13, 96 12:26:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Matthew Stein writes: > > On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > >> Let's see: you have the 53c810. So you must have system BIOS support, >> ie a ASUS motherboard. Is that true? > > Yes. It's an Asus P55-TP4XE, Pentium 133, with the latest BIOS and NCR > SCSI BIOS support enabled. I'm jumping into this thread rather late, and I can't remember: do you also have an IDE controller? I frequently use a trick that isn't very well known or appreciated: if you disable the IDE disks in the BIOS setup menu, you can boot from sd0 as DOS drive C: -- that's obvious. But you can still access the IDE disks from FreeBSD, since it doesn't listen to what the BIOS has to say. I don't know if it's relevant here, though. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 06:35:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA07274 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 06:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA07267 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 06:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr [134.157.72.87]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with SMTP id PAA02658 ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:35:06 +0200 (METDST) Received: from iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr (iaka) by mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jn930126+af960507(mailhost)) at Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:34:33 +0100 Received: by iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jf930126) at Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:34:32 +0100 Message-Id: <199607141434.AA20119@iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr> Subject: Re: base distribution To: awj@deakin.edu.au (Adam Jenkins) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:34:31 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: "Alain FAUCONNET" Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607141147.VAA05213@bajor.ccs.deakin.edu.au> from "Adam Jenkins" at Jul 14, 96 09:47:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Adam Jenkins wrote / a ecrit: > > > Sorry I couldnt find this in the FAQ etc, but hey at least it > is an easy question! :) > What is does the base distribution (bin.aa-az, bin.ba-bz, bin.c-p) > consist of, and which option is it from the instsll menu? They're a gzipped tarfile split into parts. See what the install.sh file does to install them: vvv-- concatenate the files cat bin.?? | tar --unlink -xpzf - -C / ^^^--- then untar them into /, gunzipping them on the fly BEWARE! don't type this command blindly! If you want to do something specific go study carefully the tar man page and type the appropriate command afterwards. As for the "which option from the install menu" I don't get your question, sorry. Maybe someone else will pick it up. _Alain_ -- Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM Public Health 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE Medical Computing Research Labs Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68 I've RTFMed. It says: "Refer to your system administrator" But... I *am* the system administrator :-] From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 06:43:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA08923 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 06:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA08903 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 06:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-16.ime.net [206.231.148.145]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA10641; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E8F969.6C02@ime.net> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:43:05 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James B Amy CC: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: Re: FreeBSD CD Installation References: <01BB7116.F3060DA0@486-hot-rod.net4.io.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James B Amy wrote: > > Gary, > >> My questions now are: >> wd0: HD master > HD slave >> wd1: CD master >> Does this work anyone? (not revelant to original question) > > Glad you asked. It is relevant because this is the setup I > currently have and would like to be able to use! > Ok, From your original message I don't remember mention of a second HD. But yes I would think this would be the optimal setup! And you have tried this and it dosn't work?? Bummer! >> Or MUST it be >> wd0: HD master >> CD slave >> wd1: HD master >> (Not revelant to original question) > > This is a possible reconfiguration for me however, I was under > the impression that having an ATAPI device connected to the > same IDE channel as a HD affected the performance of the HD. > Apparently, the HD is forced to wait for CD-ROM commands to > complete and vice versa, thus slowing things down. > It is always recommended that a CD-ROM drive be connected to a > secondary IDE channel, while the primary channel be used by the HDs. > Yes, I have heard this as well, If it's fact or fiction I don't know. I'm not a unix guru, In dos I find no difference! I have run comparision tests both ways on the same machine. (486DX2-66 16megs, Maxtor 7540, NEC MultiSpin 4V IDE) Testing with a suite of different analyzers. All produced the same results in either configuration. So if in fact a CD on the same interface slows it down I have yet to see PHYSICAL PROOF! Not to say it's not true though, Maybe it is! >> I am not sure but I belive I read here in -questions that as long >> as you do actually have a slave on wd0 that a ATAPI cd will work >> on wd1 as master. Am I wrong?? (Not revelant to original question) >> > Again, very relevant to my situation and I hope it does work! But > that is not what the installation manual implies. Apparently the > CD-ROM must be configured as slave, therefore I either have to > put the CD-ROM on the primary channel along with one of my HDs > or, I have to connect another IDE device to my secondary channel > as master. Either way, performance is affected. > > Is FreeBSD working on this CD-ROM master/slave problem? > I would imagine so and that we will find out for sure within the next few days/weeks when 2.1.5r is out. But my guess is that it is indeed solved with the way the FreeBSD team tackles such things. :) They would be the ones to ask this though. If in fact the CD _MUST_ be configured as slave then you are right you have two choices! wd0: HD master CD slave wd1: HD master or Buy (or pull one from the junk pile) another IDE HD and: wd0: HD master HD slave wd1: HD master CD slave Yes, This would be an irritating situation, Fortunally I run SCSI But I do sell IDE's to my customers! And I usually do use the secondary IDE interface provided with the CD for Ease/Speed of installation. :) BTW, I blew -support out of the Cc field, They don't need the flood! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 06:59:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA11252 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 06:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA11241 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 06:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id GAA16958 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 06:59:47 -0700 Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-16.ime.net [206.231.148.145]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA11064; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:57:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E8FCEA.42B6@ime.net> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:58:02 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD CD Installation References: <199607140728.JAA21515@allegro.lemis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg Lehey wrote: > > Gary Chrysler writes: > > > > Greg Lehey wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> BTW, Gary's reply could have been construed to suggest that you can > >> have more than one slave on an IDE interface. That's not the case: > >> you can have exactly two configurations: > >> > >> - 1 drive only > >> - 2 drives; one master, one slave. > >> > > > > If thats how it read, I am sorry. That was _not_ my meaning! > > No you cannot have TWO masters or TWO slaves on the same > > interface! One must be master the other must be slave! > > Watch my lips: "Gary's reply could have been construed to suggest that > you can have more than one slave on an IDE interface." I didn't want > to imply that you had said that, but that's what I understood the > first time I read it through, and I wanted to make sure that nobody > else came to the wrong conclusion. > Chill out Greg, I know that. I understand exactly why and how you said what you said! Was I rude?? I hope not! I didn't intend to be! It was just an appoligy for my lack of writing skills. Am I being rude now?? I hope not! I don't intend to be. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 07:06:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA12581 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 07:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA12563 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 07:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-16.ime.net [206.231.148.145]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA11413; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E8FEB7.7A8C@ime.net> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:05:43 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Andersen CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -questions list speed. References: <199607140821.CAA04875@terra.aros.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dave Andersen wrote: > > Looking at the headers, it appears that the delay is happening between > freefall and harborcom.net. I'll scan through the mail and see if I can > see any that are handled by my mailer machine as an intermediary (I'm one > of a few) and check if the delay is similar. I'd wager it would be, and > I'd also wager it depends on list traffic to freefall at that time, > unless harborcom.net is experiencing transient delays. > > -Dave Andersen > Yes, I understand that traffic into freefall plays a part. It's really no biggie to me, I was just curious if this seemed abnormal. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 07:07:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA12813 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 07:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w14.winecellar.co.uk (mag.nation-net.com [194.159.125.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA12806 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 07:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by w14.winecellar.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA03120 for questions@freeBSD.org; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 16:06:40 +0100 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 16:06:40 +0100 From: Paul Walsh Message-Id: <199607141506.QAA03120@w14.winecellar.co.uk> To: questions@freeBSD.org Subject: deleted st0 Sender: owner-questions@freeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Problem 1: I'm trying to configure my Python DAT . Does this need to be done at sysintall time? When I run -c at boot I don't get an st0 option but the st0 line is in my kernel. Problem 2: In trying to do this I,ve erased st0 in /dev and MAKEDEV.local st0 and mknod st0 b 5 won't re-generate it. Can you help? Regards, Paul Walsh. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 07:13:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA13362 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 07:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA13352 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 07:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-16.ime.net [206.231.148.145]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA11629; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:12:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E9004E.1F08@ime.net> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:12:30 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: -questions list speed. References: <199607141133.NAA21801@allegro.lemis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg Lehey wrote: > > Gary Chrysler writes: > > > > Is it normal for a message to take over an hour to make it's loop. > > > > Lets say I post a message to -questions, It's over an hour before > > I get my own message back on -questions. Is this normal. > > No, I'd say it's relatively fast. > > > I would think it would be a couple minutes at most even though I > > am in Maine and FreeBSD.org is in Calif. (My home state) > > It's not the time between California and Maine that takes up the time. > It's the number of messages that are being handled concurrently on > freefall, and the way that sendmail works: it tries each destination > sequentially, and there are bound to be some that aren't responding. > By the time sendmail gets round to you, hours could have passed. > > Greg Awe, Ok. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 07:19:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA14083 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 07:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA14067 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 07:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-16.ime.net [206.231.148.145]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA11848; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:17:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E9019B.190E@ime.net> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:18:03 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidg@root.com CC: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: -questions list speed. References: <199607141252.FAA05276@root.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David Greenman wrote: > > >> On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > >> > >> > Is it normal for a message to take over an hour to make it's loop. > >> > >> Hm. I don't usually look at the timestamp on when my messages come back, > >> but they usually start coming in while I'm still reading mail, so I'd say > >> I get 15 minutes loop time if that. > >> > > > >I don't actually look at the stamps either, I just know when I send > >one and know when it comes back. > > > >> > Lets say I post a message to -questions, It's over an hour before > >> > I get my own message back on -questions. Is this normal. > >> > >> > I would think it would be a couple minutes at most even though I > >> > am in Maine and FreeBSD.org is in Calif. (My home state) > >> > >> Depends on load on the mail server and the intervening distribution systems. > >> > > > >I realize load is an issue, My data to FreeBSD.org does in fact > >go through MCI SuperSlowWay. > >Crusing FreeBSD for me SUXS big time during the busy times! > >I usually wait untill the middle of the night PST. > >(Way early in the AM for me, EST) > > > >I was under the impression that a sending mail host contacted the > >recieving mail host directly if possiable. > > > >Thus a minute or so to send, a minute or so to recieve. > >15 minutes I can see, Over an hour though! Seems a bit long. > > Uhh, people, look, you aren't the only ones on the mailing list. There are > several *thousand* people on these lists. It's amazing that we are able to > deliever the email the same *day*. :-) ...so please don't complain about a few > minutes of lag time. > Not complaining.. Just asking. And I agree whole heartly, It is amazing! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 08:41:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA11511 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 08:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11492 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 08:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17181; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:40:57 GMT Message-Id: <199607141540.PAA17181@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA208738880; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:41:20 -0600 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:41:20 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: dkelly@hiwaay.net Cc: kline@tera.com, tcg@ime.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from David Kelly on Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:10:03 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: Recursive grep. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "David" == David Kelly writes: David> usually use "grep -il ..." but you get the idea. Yep, the -l in grep obviates the need for /dev/null when using it with xargs. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 09:33:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22172 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from battra.telebase.com (battra.telebase.com [192.132.57.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22128 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wormhole.telebase.com by battra.telebase.com id MAA02577 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 12:32:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from current.willscreek.com (root@current.willscreek.com [172.16.11.101]) by wormhole.telebase.com (8.7.4/8.6.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02276 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 12:32:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bmc@localhost) by current.willscreek.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id MAA00434; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 12:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 12:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607141632.MAA00434@current.willscreek.com> From: "Brian M. Clapper" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recursive grep. In-Reply-To: <30332740@toto.iv> Reply-To: Brian Clapper Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "David" == David Kelly writes: David> I've always used with success: David> find -type f -exec grep -l {} \; David> usually use "grep -il ..." but you get the idea. The `xargs' solution is typically faster, as it will invoke fewer instances of `grep'. Using find's `-exec' parameter will result in an invocation of `grep' for each file found. ----- Brian Clapper ....................... bmc@WillsCreek.COM -or- bmc@telebase.com http://www.netaxs.com/~bmc/ ......... PGP public key available on request 'Martyrdom' is the only way a person can become famous without ability. -- George Bernard Shaw From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 10:11:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA05080 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chaos.structured.net (chaos.structured.net [204.157.7.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05050 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spacehog.structured.net (ppp103.structured.net [206.58.0.103]) by chaos.structured.net (8.7.5/Structured_V8) with SMTP id KAA10702; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31E8C806.41C67EA6@structured.net> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:12:22 +0000 From: Justin Ashworth Organization: Structured Network Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-960612-SNAP i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tkgoodstuff@merv.philosophy.lsa.umich.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Where is it? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------446B9B3D2781E494167EB0E7" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------446B9B3D2781E494167EB0E7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I installed tkgoodstuff with no compile errors or anything, but I can't find the FVWM module that was supposed to come with it. This particular installation was from the FreeBSD ports collection. When that didn't work, I downloaded the source from the tkgoodstuff homepage but got the compile errors that you can see in the attached text. Any help will be gratefully appreciated...thanks! ________________________________________________________ Justin Ashworth, justin@structured.net _____________ "Well, you can get away with mistakes as an engineer... You call it being creative." - Roy Langdon (Spacehog) ________________________________________________________ --------------446B9B3D2781E494167EB0E7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="badstuff.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="badstuff.txt" Script started on Sun Jul 14 10:08:49 1996 Warning: imported path contains relative components # make ld -Bshareable -o libtkg41.so -L/usr/local/lib -ltk41 -L/usr/local/lib -ltcl75 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lm -lc tkg.o tkgButton.o ld: tkg.o: RRS text relocation at 0x69 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkg.o: RRS text relocation at 0x44 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1dde for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1d6d for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1c81 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1c48 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x19ed for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x19bc for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x18e9 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1768 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1764 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1760 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x175c for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1758 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1754 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1750 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x174c for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1748 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1700 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x16fc for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x16f8 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x16f4 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x16f0 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x16ec for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x16e8 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x16e4 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x16e0 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x15f4 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x15f0 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x15ec for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x15e8 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x15e4 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x15e0 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x15dc for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x15d8 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x15d4 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x158c for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1588 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1584 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1580 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x157c for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1578 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1574 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x1570 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x156c for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x119d for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0xda5 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0xc4d for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x949 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x5f6 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x59c for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: tkgButton.o: RRS text relocation at 0x574 for "__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_" ld: internal error: RRS relocs exceed allocation 226 *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. # exit # exit Script done on Sun Jul 14 10:08:55 1996 --------------446B9B3D2781E494167EB0E7-- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 10:34:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA11840 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unicorn.uk1.vbc.net (unicorn.uk1.vbc.net [204.137.194.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11799 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gordon@localhost) by unicorn.uk1.vbc.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA14578; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:34:37 +0100 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:34:37 +0100 (BST) From: Gordon Henderson X-Sender: gordon@unicorn To: David Greenman cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, Tim Palmer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3c590... In-Reply-To: <199607140157.SAA02544@root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, David Greenman wrote: > >On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Tim Palmer wrote: > > > >> I'm trying to get a 3c590 ethernet board to talk to my FreeBSD > >> 2.1 (Walnut Creek CD-ROM) and having no luck. I've downloaded if_vx.c > >> and if_vxreg.h from -current and referenced if_vc in my files.i386, but > >> the kernel compile fails with 3 messages complaining about if_vx.c > >> referencing an unknown "if_softc". So, my real question is: as a non C > >> speaking person, should I not worry about making this 3c590 work just > >> yet? Or did I just miss a simple step in installing the driver? > > > >Trying to back-port it to 2.1-R wouldn't be such a great idea. Just hang > >on for the 2.1.5-RELEASE; it includes the 3c590 support, I believe. > > Err, actually, no, it doesn't. We should probably have brought it in > before the code freeze. :-( Has it been re-written in the past month? The code for it that was in a SNAP release is crap. There is no speed improvement over a 509 and it locks up frequently if you try to transfer large quantities of data. (eg. FTP something over 1K long - you can ifconfig vx0 down ; ifconfig vx0 up to restore it but thats unnacceptable) 3com changed thehardware after the 590's were released - shortening the FIFO sizes probably out of economy or something. My advice is to either re-write the driver yourself or throw the card away. I threw the card away and downgraded to 2.1.0-RELEASE as the -SNAP I was using would crash about twice a day (even without the 590 card installed) Gordon -- Gordon Henderson gordon@vbc.net VBCnet GB Ltd http://www.uk.vbc.net/ Bristol, England +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 12:22:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01537 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 12:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01532 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 12:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA17445 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 12:22:02 -0700 Received: from mira.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mira.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.221.146]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA16927 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:07:20 +0200 Received: from mira by mira.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.9/SMI-4.1) id VAA00183; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:09:49 +0100 Message-ID: <31E9540D.614CDFBC@mira.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:09:49 +0100 From: Martin von Loewis X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.6 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mirror Sites Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You list several machines as FreeBSD mirrors in Germany. It seems like ftp2.de.freebsd.org and ftp7.de.freebsd.org are the same machines. Is this on purpose? Regards, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 12:38:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA03860 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 12:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA03853 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 12:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (pal-il1-12.ix.netcom.com [205.184.194.44]) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA04053 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 12:38:13 -0700 Message-ID: <31E94C4E.7676@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 14:36:46 -0500 From: Francis Cheng Organization: Francis Cheng, MD, SC X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBDS book (real paper book) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How can I get a copy of the FreeBDS book (real paper book, not on-line documentation). I'll be glad to pay for it. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 13:29:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA13743 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 13:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13700; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 13:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id GAA05013; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 06:14:07 +1000 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 06:14:07 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199607142014.GAA05013@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, julian@ref.tfs.com Subject: Re: Jaz drive questions Cc: Stephen.Couchman@imagenet.on.ca, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org, n_melhor@Telebit.COM Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > > sd1(ahc0:2:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in >> > > CDB sd1 could not mode sense (4). Using ficticious >> > > geometry 1021MB (2091050 512 byte sectors) >> > >> > This means that FreeBSD _did_ recognize the drive. Iomega apparently >> > didn't bother to implement the SCSI mode sense command, so the driver ^mode page 4 of the >> > can't determine anything about the number of heads or sectors/track >> > on the disk (if any). >> ... >the geometry is in fact unimportant.. It's important for booting. >the ficticious one should work just fine.. Only insofar as it is not much used, or happens to match the geometry used in the MBR. If there is no MBR and you use the (64 heads) * (32 sectors) geometry then booting will only be possible provided: 1) The SCSI BIOS supports this geometry either as a default or by interpreting the MBR. It probably does. 2) The boot cylinder is < 1024. Each cylinder is 1M in the 64x32 geometry, so there is no problem for drives smaller than 1024MB. The drive under discussion is slightly smaller so there is no problem for it. A geometry of (255 heads) * (63 sectors) should be used for drives in the 1GB-8GB range if the SCSI BIOS supports it. >> The claimed number of sectors looks highly suspicious: it's IMHO >> 10 x too large. It's normal for a 1GB drive. Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 13:56:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA19430 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 13:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA19388 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 13:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA10414; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:55:03 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma010409; Sun Jul 14 20:54:46 1996 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA14915; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 13:54:46 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 13:54:46 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199607142054.NAA14915@meerkat.mole.org> To: questions@freebsd.org, ron@infi.net Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Normal human consider it "OK" to run Microsoft products. Normal > > humans are wrong. > > > > Really, it's not my fault. They make me run Win95. It's not too bad, the It's popular to bash uSoft. They make a lot of money. However, the little puzzle pieces on the clouds packages for uSoft Office, Office Pro, and the small business pack stuff do fit together, and the stuff works pretty well. It fills a need, and with add-ons like Eudora, it makes a productive work environment. I like FreeBSD for the server for Win95 and Macs, I prefer the programming environment, and I like the stability. However, I don't think it has the applications infrastructure to replace the client side, and heaven knows, Unix-like boxes are harder to manage. Making a FreeBSD box GUI enhanced for administration isn't going to make it a suitable desktop machine for the masses. I buy uSoft products when I need 'em. I also get a kick getting a credit for "Not shipped with OS" when I order a machine without DOS or Windows. This ought to go somewhere other than questions. Trashcan, maybe :-) -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 14:18:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA23548 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 14:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bdd.net (bdd.net [207.61.119.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA23527 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 14:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by bdd.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA29039; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:17:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Stein To: Greg Lehey cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Help : kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? In-Reply-To: <199607141157.NAA21855@allegro.lemis.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, Greg Lehey wrote: > I'm jumping into this thread rather late, and I can't remember: do you > also have an IDE controller? I frequently use a trick that isn't very Yes, I've also got an IDE controller. > well known or appreciated: if you disable the IDE disks in the BIOS > setup menu, you can boot from sd0 as DOS drive C: -- that's obvious. This is something that I considered, but renabling the IDE drive anytime I want to boot DOS is a little out of the way compared to using Booteasy. -- mat. +-Matthew Stein-------------------------------------------- matt@bdd.net-+ | Network Design phone: +1 519 823-8577 | | ButtonDown Digital fax: +1 519 823-9556 | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 14:21:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA24059 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 14:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24050 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 14:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ah29488; 14 Jul 96 21:21 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa15204; 14 Jul 96 11:16 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA01098; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 01:37:36 GMT Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 01:37:36 GMT Message-Id: <199607140137.BAA01098@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: durang@u.washington.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Ken Marsh on Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:43:25 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Printer Daemon problems. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Ken Marsh writes: > [snip] > The error message I get when I type "lptest 5 5 | lpd -Php500c" > > # lptest 5 5 |lpr -Php500c > lpr: connect: No such file or directory > jobs queued, but cannot start daemon. > > hp500c|inkjet|lp|Hewlett Packard 500C color inkjet printer:\ > :sh:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hp500c:\ > :lp=/dev/lpt0:\ > :if=/usr/local/libexec/if-simple:\ > :lf=/var/log/hp500c.log ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is the only file you didn't show us. Does it exist? If not, lpr probably won't create it (this seems to be the usual practice with Unix log files, for some reason). Just do touch /var/log/hp500c.log as root to create it. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 14:57:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA29715 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 14:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29700 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 14:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA23810; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 14:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma023806; Sun Jul 14 14:56:40 1996 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA04155; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 14:56:34 -0700 From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199607142156.OAA04155@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: tun0 message To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 14:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Cc: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu, humprey@linux1.dlsu.edu.ph, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jul 13, 96 07:05:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Problem with routed is that if your router goes bonkers then you can kiss > your default route goodbye. I got bit by it once and stopped using it > right then and there. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major A related observation... Has anyone seen instances (with 2.1-R) where "routed -q" is running, and it hears a route to, say, 192.168.0.0, and instead of installing the route as 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 it installs it as 192.168.0.0 netmask 192.168.0.0 ?? This happens to me sometimes... makes for interesting effects :-) -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie L. Cobbs, archie@whistle.com * Whistle Communications Corporation From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 15:11:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA02375 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guardian.fortress.org ([199.84.158.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA02362 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA15444; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:11:31 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:11:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help with phantom disk read errors Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've been having some problems with "phantom" disk read errors reported by the controller, but when I run the Adaptec bios' media scan, it doesn't detect anything wrong. Below is the output of 'dmesg' from boot until crash after read errors. Currently the entire system, a news server, is running on sd0. Any suggestions would be appreciated! FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Sun Jul 7 09:20:57 1996 root@:/usr/src/2.1.0-STABLE/sys/compile/NEWS CPU: 60-MHz Pentium 510\\60 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x517 Stepping=7 Features=0x1bf real memory = 20971520 (20480K bytes) avail memory = 18808832 (18368K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: pci0:16: OPTI, device=0xc822, class=bridge (host) [no driver assigned] Probing for devices on the ISA bus: scprobe: keyboard RESET failed fe sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16450 sio1 not found at 0x2f8 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 765 fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in aha0 at 0x330-0x333 irq 11 drq 5 on isa aha0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (aha0:0:0): "QUANTUM XP32150 581H" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(aha0:0:0): Direct-Access 2050MB (4199760 512 byte sectors) (aha0:2:0): "TOSHIBA MK538FB 6062" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(aha0:2:0): Direct-Access 1170MB (2396970 512 byte sectors) 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa ep0: aui/utp[*AUI*] address 00:a0:24:00:79:68 irq 10 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface sd0(aha0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:386d63 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error , retries:4 /usr/local/news/spool: optimization changed from SPACE to TIME sd0(aha0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:3f85b3 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error , retries:4 sd0(aha0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:3f85b3 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error , retries:3 sd0(aha0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:3f85b3 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error , retries:2 sd0(aha0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:3f85b6 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error , retries:4 sd0(aha0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:3f85b5 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error , retries:4 sd0(aha0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:3f85b7 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error , retries:4 sd0(aha0:0:0): timed out sd0(aha0:0:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:4e,0 Overlapped commands attempted , retries:3 sd0(aha0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:39bb26 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error , retries:4 sd0(aha0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:39bb26 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error , retries:3 sd0(aha0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:3ca270 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error , retries:4 sd0(aha0:0:0): timed out sd0(aha0:0:0): timed out sd0(aha0:0:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:4e,0 Overlapped commands attempted , retries:1 mode = 0100664, inum = 326121, fs = /usr/local/news/spool panic: ffs_valloc: dup alloc syncing disks... 5 5 4 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 giving up Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Rebooting... Andrew Webster - andrew@pubnix.net - http://www.pubnix.net PubNIX Montreal - Connected to the world - Branche au monde 514-990-5911 - P.O. Box 147, Cote St-Luc, Quebec, H4V 2Y3 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 15:17:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA03245 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.origin.nl (gw.origin.nl [193.79.128.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA03228 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gw.origin.nl (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA24150 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:17:05 +0200 Received: from nsnl.origin.nl(172.16.1.3) by gw via smap (V1.3) id sma024148; Mon Jul 15 00:16:53 1996 Received: from rtdfss01.nlrtdfsc.origin.nl (rtdfss01.nlrtdfsc.origin.nl [172.16.41.2]) by nsnl.origin.nl (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA23999 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:17:06 GMT Received: from diners.nlrtdsap.origin.nl (di41edsl.nlrtdfsc.origin.nl [172.17.41.35]) by rtdfss01.nlrtdfsc.origin.nl (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA07572 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:16:43 GMT Message-ID: <31EA1A26.4BD9@nlrtdfsc.origin.nl> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:15:02 +0200 From: Edwin Slee Organization: Origin/Rotterdam X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Chimera X-URL: http://www.nl.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Where can I 'ftp' chimera? regards Edwin Slee From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 16:09:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08173 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 16:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (root@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08166 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 16:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA00444; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:08:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:08:50 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: Francis Cheng cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBDS book (real paper book) In-Reply-To: <31E94C4E.7676@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, Francis Cheng wrote: Look at http://www/cdrom.com and give them a call at the listed number. They have the book available. Mike > How can I get a copy of the FreeBDS book (real paper book, not on-line > documentation). I'll be glad to pay for it. > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 16:54:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA13031 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 16:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s4.elec.uq.edu.au (haytham@s4.elec.uq.edu.au [130.102.96.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13020 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 16:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from haytham@localhost) by s4.elec.uq.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.12) id JAA05670; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:53:04 +1000 (EST) From: Haytham Algyndy Message-Id: <199607142353.JAA05670@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> Subject: upgrading from 2.1-STABLE to 2.1.5-Release To: jkh@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:53:03 +1000 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I have a small question. What are the steps to upgrade from 2.1-STABLE --> 2.1.5 RELEASE ? Will the STABLE branch continue on the long run ? Thanks for an excellent job. Thank you Haytham ________________________________________________________________________ Haytham Abd-Alsalam Algyndy Dept. of Elec. and Comp. Eng. The UNIVERSITY of QUEENSLAND Brisbane 4072, Queensland Australia haytham@elec.uq.edu.au tel. 61 - 07 - 365 356 4 (AW) Fax. 61 - 07 - 365 499 9 ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 17:00:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14221 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intele.net (quervo.intele.net [206.29.206.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14216 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from logan3.n1.net (logan3.n1.net [207.49.6.53]) by intele.net (8.7.4/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA07400 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:02:00 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:02:00 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960714180133.250f5dd4@intele.net> X-Sender: brendtb@intele.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Brendt T. Bennett" Subject: Please help: install problem-> 2.1.0-R Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Since my ISP is going through a radical change, would you please send an immediate response even if it does not include any possible solutions. This will just let me know if you received my message. Thanx. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I guess every now and then we computer nuts need to be reminded that we cannot solve all problems by ourselves. It is now my turn (Again!). For Father's Day this year, I got (to order for myself) the FreeBSD CDROM. I decided on the 2.1.0-RELEASE for reasons I cannot remember. I read the manual and did all the homework I could before installing the operating system, but alas I am still having problems. I called Walnut Creek CDROM technical support and they recomended I post the problems to USENET and send them the same info. So here I go. The plan: I have two EIDE Hard disks; one Maxtor 1.6GB, one Maxtor 540MB. I want to use the first (larger) to remain dedicated to DOS and Windows. The second (smaller) hard disk will be dedicated to FreeBSD. I want a XWindow system, one that I can try writing BSD drivers and try some X programming. The problem: After reading the book that came with the CDs (twice), I was not surprised when I could not load FreeBSD directly from my ATAPI 4X Creative CDROM drive. (I also tried the _atapi.flp_ created with the VIEW program.) I figured the best way would be to copy the files and directories needed to my large DOS disk and install from there. Even after the copying, I still had plenty of space on the DOS hard disk. I then booted with the _boot.flp_ (also created with VIEW). Things went fine until soon after the screen that asks if you are CERTAIN you want to load the system. I then got an error message that said: Failed to load the ROOT distribution. Please correct this problem and try again. After trying the same NOVICE installation method several times with the same results (I did try reloading the source files and change some of the directory structure on the DOS disk first) I tried the CUSTOM installation. I ran into problems with the EXTRACT directive. Almost all the transfers gave an error message that had: Write failure on transfer... >From the way things looked, all the sources were being read correctly, there seemed to be problems writing to the second disk. Finally I tried putting a small DOS partition at the beginning of the disk, as was recomended. I still got the same results. My system: Motherboard: Intel P54C/PCI (Plato), Neptune chip set, AMI BIOS; Current BIOS installed: 1.00.06.1AX CPU: Intel Pentium 90MHz Memory: 24MB 60ns w/ parity Video: Number Nine GXE64 Pro, 2MB VRAM Monitor: Nokia Multigraph 447X 1st OS: Novell DOS 7 & MS Windows 3.1 Floppy: 1.44MB (A:), 1.2MB (B:); using motherboard controller 1st HD: Maxtor 71626 AP; 1.6GB EIDE Jumpered as master device; using motherboard controller attached to PCI bus. 2nd HD: Maxtor 7546 AT; 540MB EIDE Jumpered as slave device; using motherboard controller attached to PCI bus. CDROM: Creative 4X IDE (model CRE-JTB?), Jumpered as slave device; using motherboard controller attached to ISA bus. Since I think disk geometry is the issue here, I list the following: BIOS has the following settings (hard disks are auto detected): Cyln Head Sect Size Drive C: 3158 16 63 1554 MB Drive D: 1060 16 63 522 MB IDE Translation Mode: LBA However, FDISK gives the following parameters: Partitions on 1st hard disk (1551.3 Mb, 788 cylinders): No Drive Start End MB Status Type 1 C: 0 787 1551.3 A PRI DOS Partitions on 2nd hard disk (520.7 Mb, 529 cylinders): (No partitions defined yet.) I know this has been a long post, I wanted to try to give all the hardware information I could and an accurate discription of my problem. I might have gone overboard, but I think it is better than a skimpy report. I am also going to give the full list of what FreeBSD comes up with when probing my system. If anyone has any ideas I am certainly willing try them. Thanks for your time. Brendt T. Bennett PS. My internet service provider is going through a change. If you email me at brendtb@n1.net and the message bounces, try brendtb@intele.net. If you still cannot reach me, use my wife's school account slrbd@cc.usu.edu. Below is a what apears on my screen after a system reset. I was booting from FreeBSD _boot.flp_: AMIBIOS (c) 1992 American Megatrends Inc., BIOS Version 1.00.06.AX1 024576 KB Please Wait... Keyboard.....Detected Mouse........Not Detected Hard Disk C: Installed Maxtor 71626 AP Hard Disk D: Installed Mastor 7546 AT >>FreeBSD BOOT @ 0x10000: 639/23552 k of memory Use hd(1,a)/kernel to boot sd0 when wd0 is also installed. Usage: [[fd(0,a)]/kernel][-abcCdhrsv] Use ? for file list or press Enter for defaults Boot: Booting fd(0,a)/kernel @ 0x20c000 text=0xfc000 / text=0xfc000 data=0x0 bss=0xa00 symbols=[+0x600+0x4+0x27c+0x4+0x1fb] total=0x30947f entry point=0x20c000 Uncompressing kernel...done Booting the kernel BIOS basemem (639K) != basemem (640K) Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 18 10:21:19 1995 jkh@westhill.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS CPU: 90-MHz Pentium 735\90 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x521 Stepping=1 Features=0x1bf real memory = 25165824 (24576K bytes) avail memory = 21540864 (21036K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> edo not found at 0x280 ed1 not found at 0x300 sio0 at 0x3f8-3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16650A sio1 at 0x2f8-2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16650A sio2 not found at 0x3e8 sio3 not found at 0x2e8 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lpt0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1 not found at 0xffffffff lpt2 not found at 0xffffffff mse0: wrong signature ff mse0 not found at 0x23c fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1554MB (3183264 sectors), 3158 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd0: 521MB (1068480 sectors), 1060 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 not found at 0x170 bt0 not found at 0x330 uha0 not found at 0x330 ahc1 not found ahb0 not found aha0 not found at 0x330 aic0 not found at 0x340 nca0 not found at 0x1f88 nca1 not found at 0x350 sea0 not found wt0 not found at 0x300 mcd0: timeout getting status mcd0 not found at 0x300 mcd1: timeout getting status mcd1 not found at 0x340 matcdc0 not found at 0x230 scd0 not found at 0x230 ie0 not found at 0x360 ep0 not found at 0x300 ix0 not found at 0x300 le0: noboard found at 0x300 le0 not found at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 lnc1 not found at 0x300 ze0 not found at 0x300 zp0 not found at 0x300 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Probing for devices on the PCI bus: chip0 rev 17 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 3 on pci0:2 vga0 rev 0 on pci0:6 rootfs is 1000 Kbyte compiled in MFS /stand/sysinstall running as init From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 17:01:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14318 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mystic.exile.net (blp@mystic.exile.net [199.3.234.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14294 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from blp@localhost) by mystic.exile.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) id TAA00951 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:00:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199607150000.TAA00951@mystic.exile.net> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:00:55 -0500 (CDT) To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Ben L. Perkins" Reply-to: blp@exile.net Subject: Meaning of error in /var/log messages X-Mailer: Ishmail-demo 1.2.2-960610-linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running FreeBSD on a machine which is a dedicated Internet Relay Chat server. This afternoon the machine seemed to drop off the net for about 20 minutes. When I was on the verge of calling into the office to have it booted, it started accepting connections again, both telnet and irc. A look in the /var/log/messages file showed only one message which was from the correct time period. It's as follows: Jul 14 12:22:35 irc /kernel: mb_map full Can you shed any light on what it's trying to tell me, whether it could be responsible for the freeze up, and possibly how to correct it? Thanks for any assistance. Ben Perkins -- Ben L. Perkins /\ Houston, TX, USA blp@exile.net \/ http://www.io.com/~blp finger blp@io.com for PGP public key. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 17:02:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14413 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14405 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:02:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Lehey Message-Id: <199607150002.RAA14405@freefall.freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update 7 May 1996. This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"**). In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. I'm taking the viewpoint of the newcomer here: we have other ways of handling arrogant hackers :-) When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, please remember: 1. Nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message, so please specify a subject. "FreeBSD problem" or "Can't get this to work" aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, most people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. Please try to format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. 4. Please don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 5. Please specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: - If you get error messages, don't say "I get error messages", say (for example) "I get the error message 'No route to host'". - If your system panics, don't say "My system panicked", say (for example) "my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'". - If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. 6. If you don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. For example, let's assume you know the answer to the following question. You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for this activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 17:12:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA15684 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antares.aero.org (antares.aero.org [130.221.192.46]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA15673 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anpiel.aero.org (anpiel.aero.org [130.221.196.66]) by antares.aero.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA05803 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607150011.RAA05803@antares.aero.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Good, cheap 8mm tape system needed Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:11:45 -0700 From: "Mike O'Brien" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My Colorado Jumbo 350 floppy tape drive just blew up its motor for the second time and I'm abandoning that product line. It's just not reliable: I've had endless problems with media errors, hardware breakage, and the lack of support under FreeBSD. It's time to get a real tape drive. I'm looking for a good 4 or 8mm tape subsystem that a) works under things like Norton Backup (for the DOS side of the house) and b) works right under FreeBSD as a no-fuss no-bother SCSI tape drive. Is this available for under $1,000? If so, what is it, and where is it? Thanks! Mike O'Brien aka Mr. Protocol, on a good day at least, which so far this is not From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 17:17:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA16172 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA16160 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maryann.eng.umd.edu (maryann.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.22]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA13061; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by maryann.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA02924; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:17:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:17:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@maryann.eng.umd.edu To: Edwin Slee cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Chimera In-Reply-To: <31EA1A26.4BD9@nlrtdfsc.origin.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Edwin Slee wrote: > Hi, > > Where can I 'ftp' chimera? Use the chimera from FreeBSD ports (www/chimera) and let FreeBSD fetch it for you. Reading from the Makefile for chimera: MASTER_SITES= ftp://ftp.cs.unlv.edu/pub/chimera/ > > regards Edwin Slee > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 18:16:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA26758 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antares.aero.org (antares.aero.org [130.221.192.46]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26734 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anpiel.aero.org (anpiel.aero.org [130.221.196.66]) by antares.aero.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA06712 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607150116.SAA06712@antares.aero.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Good, cheap 8mm tape system needed Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:16:21 -0700 From: "Mike O'Brien" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (Apologies if this appears twice.) My Colorado Jumbo 350 floppy tape drive just blew up its motor for the second time and I'm abandoning that product line. It's just not reliable: I've had endless problems with media errors, hardware breakage, and the lack of support under FreeBSD. It's time to get a real tape drive. I'm looking for a good 4 or 8mm tape subsystem that a) works under things like Norton Backup (for the DOS side of the house) and b) works right under FreeBSD as a no-fuss no-bother SCSI tape drive. Is this available for under $1,000? If so, what is it, and where is it? Thanks! Mike O'Brien aka Mr. Protocol, on a good day at least, which so far this is not From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 18:19:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA27311 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer27.u.washington.edu (durang@homer27.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27301 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer27.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA64800; Sun, 14 Jul 96 18:19:38 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:19:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Login at boot? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm new to unix and to FreeBSD. I just installed the system on half of my > > hard drive with the dual boot option. It seems to work fine. However, upon > > boot, I don't get a login prompt. Rather, I am just root from the get-go. > > This doesn't seem right to me. Furthermore, when I do log in, I get: > > > > NO LOGINS -- System going down at 16:00 > > Somehow /etc/nologin got dropped and you need to remove it. Boot to single > user mode (with -s) and delete it. > > Did you turn the machine off when running shutdown at any point? > I always do the shutdown, even though I hear Cntl-Alt-Del will work too. I use "shutdown -h now", and wait for the "press any key to reboot" message, then I off the power. I tried booting with -s option, and found that I have few commands at my disposal (i.e., no man pages) and I am also denied access to the file /etc/nologin. "su" is also not available when I single-user boot. I can delete the file when logged in as root, but then it reinstates itself when I reboot. This is only one of many problems I have had, including no login prompt on boot, my atapi CD-ROM isn't recognized, my lpd daemon has to be re-activated manually with ever print..... it think all the problems are the result of using an atapi CD-ROM boot floppy from the 2.1.0 release to install from the Walnut Creek 2.0.5 CD. The install was not very clean. Thanks for the help! From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 18:35:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA29975 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.hidesert.com (bbs9.hidesert.com [206.85.216.218]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29964 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by www.hidesert.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00252; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 11:35:00 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 11:35:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199607141835.LAA00252@www.hidesert.com> To: questions@freebsd.org X-URL: mailto:questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4-2 From: mtoole@hidesert.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm trying to get the X windows to work. I won't start. I know I Probably still have to put it in the path but I don't know how to do that, can you tell me how to put it in my path? Thanks alot. P.S. I know how to edit files, just let me know which file I need to edit because I went through them and found about 3 different files with paths, all of which aren't my current path. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 19:26:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA08577 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer13.u.washington.edu (durang@homer13.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA08565 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer13.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA152494; Sun, 14 Jul 96 19:26:30 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:26:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: James Raynard Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printer Daemon problems. In-Reply-To: <199607140137.BAA01098@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, James Raynard wrote: > >>>>> Ken Marsh writes: > > > [snip] > > The error message I get when I type "lptest 5 5 | lpd -Php500c" > > > > # lptest 5 5 |lpr -Php500c > > lpr: connect: No such file or directory > > jobs queued, but cannot start daemon. > > > > hp500c|inkjet|lp|Hewlett Packard 500C color inkjet printer:\ > > :sh:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hp500c:\ > > :lp=/dev/lpt0:\ > > :if=/usr/local/libexec/if-simple:\ > > :lf=/var/log/hp500c.log > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > This is the only file you didn't show us. Does it exist? If not, > lpr probably won't create it (this seems to be the usual practice with > Unix log files, for some reason). Just do > > touch /var/log/hp500c.log > > as root to create it. Yes. this was also done. I didn't show the file because it is still empty. Ken Marsh From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 19:57:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA11906 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agape.wingnet.net (root@agape.wingnet.net [206.30.215.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA11891 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WingNET.wingnet.net (port32.wingnet.net [206.30.215.32]) by agape.wingnet.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA02093 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E9B1C6.A47@wingnet.net> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:49:42 -0400 From: James Daresta X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with Win95 X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently installed Free BSD 2.2 Snapshot on an extended drive. Unfortuanately after a successful installation I could not boot to it. I have Windows 95 and I followed the instructions you gave in FAQ 3.4. Yet I do not have a dual boot. Could you please help me? I am eager to learn and use Free BSD, but I cannot access it. Thanks. James Daresta jimmy@wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 20:11:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA12835 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.harborcom.net (root@ns2.harborcom.net [206.158.4.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12830 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from swoosh.dunn.org (swoosh.dunn.org [206.158.7.243]) by ns2.harborcom.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA09598 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:11:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607150311.XAA09598@ns2.harborcom.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Bradley Dunn" Organization: Harbor Communications To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:05:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: ftp(1) man page Reply-to: dunn@harborcom.net Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.31) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hmmm... man ftp says this: ascii Set the file transfer type to network ASCII. This is the default type. Yet binary mode seems to be the default. Am I missing something? Bradley Dunn Harbor Communications From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 20:32:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA14147 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA14128 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA24079; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:31:58 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA21210; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:33:37 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:33:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: mtoole@hidesert.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199607141835.LAA00252@www.hidesert.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Jul 1996 mtoole@hidesert.com wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to get the X windows to work. I won't start. I know I > Probably still have to put it in the path but I don't know how to do that, > can you tell me how to put it in my path? Thanks alot. Run `xf86config' to configure XFree86 first. Then type `startx' to run it. Assuming you have correctly installed all of the things necessary I think that's all you need to do. Run xf86config as root. `startx' can/should be as a normal user. > P.S. I know how to edit files, just let me know which file I need to edit > because I went through them and found about 3 different files with paths, all > of which aren't my current path. Ahh... Well, it all really depends on which shell you are using. You can read the manpage for the given shell (warning, that may take a certain amount of time), or you can just change all three... :) Offhand, .cshrc is used by csh and its variants (ie. tchs). .profile by sh and its variants (ie. bash). .login is also a csh file, but read only when you login instead of everytime that csh is started. .xinitrc is a shell script run shortly after you type `startx'. -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 20:33:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA14270 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fw.tabula.com (fw.tabula.com [204.160.137.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA14261 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fw.tabula.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09094; Sun, 14 Jul 96 20:33:28 PDT Received: from tab012.tabula.com(204.119.64.12) by fw.tabula.com via smap (V1.3) id sma009092; Sun Jul 14 20:32:47 1996 Received: by tabula.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27528; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:31:19 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:31:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Thor Clark To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: system hangs? after resetting rtq_reallyold Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk running 2.1 Release, straight off the cd The system doesn't actually hang - it just becomes unresponsive, while continuing to run some processes: eg will respond to a ping, and continue to run some background processes, but will not respond to telnet,ftp,http, or console input. I can (and did several times ;) reliably reproduce this by mailing ~1500 messages, with ~150 of them going to non-responsive or non-existant servers. from the log 830:Jul 14 15:21:50 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2400 836:Jul 14 15:31:50 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1600 846:Jul 14 15:41:50 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1066 853:Jul 14 15:51:50 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 710 863:Jul 14 16:01:57 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 473 875:Jul 14 16:11:58 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 315 883:Jul 14 16:21:58 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 210 I tried a few things: reducing net.inet.ip.rtexpire to 500 at boot (little or no effect) (I haven't tried reducing this to 0) increasing net.inet.ip.maxcache to 256 (little or no effect) removing all the queued mail messages from /var/mqueue (the ~150 with bad addresses - this worked!) So I can probably avoid this by tweaking sendmail parameters?, but I'd like to figure out what's happening. The only way to regain control is a physical reboot, which is not a great solution ;/ from top (which continues to run through telnet, though I can't log into the console...) load averages: 5.70, 3.08, 1.64 16:56:53 51 processes: 1 running, 45 sleeping, 1 stopped, 4 zombie Cpu states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.4% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.6% idle Memory: 7552K Active, 2668K Inact, 2708K Wired, 1104K Cache, 64K Free Swap: 82M Total, 63M Free, 24% Inuse This is about 4 minutes after I lose access - load is generally < 1. Sorry about the long post - Any help, pointers greatly appreciated. -Thor Clark From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 21:29:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA22326 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA22320 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00232; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:29:03 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:29:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: mtoole@hidesert.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199607141835.LAA00252@www.hidesert.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Jul 1996 mtoole@hidesert.com wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to get the X windows to work. I won't start. I know I > Probably still have to put it in the path but I don't know how to do that, > can you tell me how to put it in my path? Thanks alot. edit .profile if using sh and .cshrc for csh. Modify the 'set path=(...)' line to include /usr/X11R6/bin. How are you trying to start X? > P.S. I know how to edit files, just let me know which file I need to edit > because I went through them and found about 3 different files with paths, all > of which aren't my current path. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 21:34:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA22945 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA22940 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00249; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:33:55 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:33:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: HMG coA reductase cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dumb terminals In-Reply-To: <199607141226.WAA20810@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, HMG coA reductase wrote: > i'd like advice on hooking up a dumb terminal to my FreeBSD box. > i connected this laptop to my desktop with a serial laplink cable, > set the /etc/ttys nicely, set up Windows Terminal on the laptop, but did > not get a login: prompt. everything looks fine on the FreeBSD side, getty > was running, and stty for ttyd0 shows desired settings. Was the terminal and box connected by a null modem cable and the baudrate & data bit settings correct? Did you try hitting return a few times to ellicit a login: prompt? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 21:36:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA23233 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA23228 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00259; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:36:45 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:36:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Bradley Dunn cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ftp(1) man page In-Reply-To: <199607150311.XAA09598@ns2.harborcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, Bradley Dunn wrote: > Hmmm... man ftp says this: > > ascii Set the file transfer type to network ASCII. This is the > default type. > > Yet binary mode seems to be the default. Am I missing something? It depends on the client. Some ftp's (notably ncftp) reset it to binary without telling. Logins are explicitly set to binary (ftp will let you know). anonymous should default to ascii (although I noted that a xfer from wcarchive today was binary. Hm.) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 21:37:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA23287 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.interaccess.com (home.interaccess.com [198.80.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA23276 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:37:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d108.isdn.nb.interaccess.com (d108.isdn.nb.interaccess.com [204.148.175.108]) by home.interaccess.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id XAA01497 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:37:35 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: home.interaccess.com: Host d108.isdn.nb.interaccess.com [204.148.175.108] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <31E984CB.365F@interaccess.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:37:48 +0000 From: "sindrome@interaccess.com" Reply-To: sindrome@interaccess.com Organization: sindrome@interaccess.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: setcolor for bsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been searching for a small application called "setcolor" for BSD and can't find it anywhere. It's a simple application that allows you to change your background and foreground colors from the prompt. i.e. setcolor blue white If you could point me to a site that has it or attach it in mail, it would be greatly appreciated. I'm positive it's available for bsd. Thanks, sindrome@interaccess.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 21:39:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA23628 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA23623 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA01255; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:37:49 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199607150437.VAA01255@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: rsh problem, 2.1-STABLE To: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4s9a3k$qk8@twwells.com> from "T. William Wells" at "Jul 13, 96 07:05:24 pm" Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk T. William Wells wrote: > Note the `connection refused' after the second rsh. This occured > on both the runs of this I attempted. Yes, you read it correctly; > I am doing an rsh from admin to admin. It's a sleazy way to avoid > having to write setuid scripts. :-) It is a bug in FreeBSD that has existed since 2.0.5 and still exists in -current. when you get the 'connection refused' message or just after the 1st rsh, do a 'netstat -a' and look at the entries at the top. See that one related to rshd or rlogind that is timing out? Until that times out (30 seconds or so) you won't be able to do another of the same rsh. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 21:44:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA24505 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA24492 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00283; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:44:16 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:44:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ken Marsh cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Login at boot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, Ken Marsh wrote: > I always do the shutdown, even though I hear Cntl-Alt-Del will work too. I > use "shutdown -h now", and wait for the "press any key to reboot" message, > then I off the power. Maybe you jumped the gun on it. > I tried booting with -s option, and found that I have few commands at my > disposal (i.e., no man pages) and I am also denied access to the file > /etc/nologin. "su" is also not available when I single-user boot. I can > delete the file when logged in as root, but then it reinstates itself when > I reboot. Oh, you have to key in "mount /" then "mount -a" to get your commands back and get / back to read/write. > This is only one of many problems I have had, including no login prompt on > boot, my atapi CD-ROM isn't recognized, my lpd daemon has to be > re-activated manually with ever print..... it think all the problems are > the result of using an atapi CD-ROM boot floppy from the 2.1.0 release to > install from the Walnut Creek 2.0.5 CD. The install was not very clean. possibly. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 21:54:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA25988 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA25977 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00317; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:54:23 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:54:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "T. William Wells" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rsh problem, 2.1-STABLE In-Reply-To: <4s9a3k$qk8@twwells.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 13 Jul 1996, T. William Wells wrote: > Here's an output, somewhat shrunk: > > admin@admin: sh -x dodump > + rsh -n -l root admin /root/bin/make-archive / . -print0 > + dd bs=32k of=/dev/nrst0 > + rsh -n -l root admin /root/bin/make-archive /usr . -print0 > + dd bs=32k of=/dev/nrst0 > admin.cyberenet.net: Connection refused > + rsh -n -l root admin /root/bin/make-archive /usr2 . -print0 > + dd bs=32k of=/dev/nrst0 This is a noticed problem with some of the r-utilies (rlogin as well). There is a problem with the session timeout and socket re-usage (or something like that) that interferes with the daemon restarting correctly. I've seen some commits to try and fix those, it's up in the air if it made it into 2.1.5 or not. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 21:57:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26526 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26515 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00335; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:57:26 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:57:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Haytham Algyndy cc: jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@freebsd.com Subject: Re: upgrading from 2.1-STABLE to 2.1.5-Release In-Reply-To: <199607142353.JAA05670@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Haytham Algyndy wrote: > What are the steps to upgrade from 2.1-STABLE --> 2.1.5 RELEASE ? Dunno. RELEASE is a full release and is based on STABLE. If you have a recent stable then you probably won't gain anything going to -release. > Will the STABLE branch continue on the long run ? Apparently, -stable is now dead. CVS was too much of a pain to use to maintain both -current and -stable. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 22:18:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA28922 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28911 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA028327923; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:18:46 -0700 Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA014247921; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:18:41 +1000 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:18:41 +1000 (EST) From: M C Wong To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Anyone has animated BSD daemon GIF ? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Does anyone have any animated BSD daemon GIF pics that can be put on WWW pages ? Thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 9210 5568 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 9210 5550 P.O. Box 221, Blackburn 3130, Australia From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 22:21:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA29535 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29517 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA02093; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607150521.WAA02093@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Thor Clark cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs? after resetting rtq_reallyold In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:31:11 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:21:45 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >running 2.1 Release, straight off the cd > >The system doesn't actually hang - it just becomes unresponsive, while >continuing to run some processes: eg will respond to a ping, and continue >to run some background processes, but will not respond to >telnet,ftp,http, or console input. > >I can (and did several times ;) reliably reproduce this by mailing ~1500 >messages, with ~150 of them going to non-responsive or non-existant >servers. > >from the log >830:Jul 14 15:21:50 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2400 >836:Jul 14 15:31:50 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1600 >846:Jul 14 15:41:50 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1066 >853:Jul 14 15:51:50 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 710 >863:Jul 14 16:01:57 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 473 >875:Jul 14 16:11:58 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 315 >883:Jul 14 16:21:58 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 210 The above messages can be completely ignored and aren't part of the problem. They indicate that the system is adjusting the route expiration time for "clone" routes. Look via dmesg or in /var/log/messages for a kernel message of the form "Out of mbuf clusters - increase maxusers", or for older releases of FreeBSD, "mb_map full". The message will only occur once. If this is happening (likely), then you need to increase the number of mbuf clusters either by increasing maxusers or by adding: options "NMBCLUSTERS=" ...to your kernel config file. Where is some number in the area of 2000 and not more than 4000 (unless you know what you're doing). I believe this is covered in the FAQ. The question gets asked about once a week, so it should be. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 22:43:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA01407 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer17.u.washington.edu (durang@homer17.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA01402 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer17.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA88490; Sun, 14 Jul 96 22:43:43 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:43:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: /etc/nologin file invunerability In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I tried booting with -s option, and found that I have few commands at my > > disposal (i.e., no man pages) and I am also denied access to the file > > /etc/nologin. "su" is also not available when I single-user boot. I can > > delete the file when logged in as root, but then it reinstates itself when > > I reboot. > > Oh, you have to key in "mount /" then "mount -a" to get your commands > back and get / back to read/write. > > > This is only one of many problems I have had, including no login prompt on > > boot, my atapi CD-ROM isn't recognized, my lpd daemon has to be > > re-activated manually with ever print..... it think all the problems are > > the result of using an atapi CD-ROM boot floppy from the 2.1.0 release to > > install from the Walnut Creek 2.0.5 CD. The install was not very clean. so i booted with "-s" and did the "mount /" and "mount -a". Then I removed the file /etc/nologin. When i rebooted, it had reappeared. It is just like before. I delete it, and next time it is there again. Ken From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 22:54:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA02313 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.hidesert.com (bbs9.hidesert.com [206.85.216.218]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA02308 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by www.hidesert.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA00321; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:53:32 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:53:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199607142253.PAA00321@www.hidesert.com> To: questions@freebsd.org X-URL: mailto:questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4-2 From: mtoole@hidesert.com Subject: XFree86 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm trying to get the XFree86 window system to work but I've run out of luck. I've tried every setting I could and it still doesn't startup. The setting that is best matched with my hardware tries to start up but it gives me an error "Fatal Server Error" followed by "No Screens Found". Could you help me with this? I don't know if this will help any, but I have a Shamrock monitor that says 50-60hz on the back and I have a Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM 2mb memory on it. My computer is an AMD 586 133mhz with 16mb ram. I don't know what other information I could give you that would help but if you need any more information about my hardware, let me know. I would appreciate it alot if you could help me get this running, i've been working on it for some time now. Thanks for your time, mtoole@hidesert.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 22:58:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA02636 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02629 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA00600; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 01:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA11075; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 01:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 01:59:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: "sindrome@interaccess.com" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: setcolor for bsd In-Reply-To: <31E984CB.365F@interaccess.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, sindrome@interaccess.com wrote: > I have been searching for a small application called "setcolor" for BSD > and can't find it anywhere. It's a simple application that allows you > to change your background and foreground colors from the prompt. > > i.e. > > setcolor blue white FreeBSD has `vidcontrol' as part of the base system. Vidcontrol will change the colours on your favourite console... ie. vidcontrol red green -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 23:12:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA03591 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03584 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA02199; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607150612.XAA02199@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Ken Marsh cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /etc/nologin file invunerability In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:43:43 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:12:31 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > I tried booting with -s option, and found that I have few commands at my >> > disposal (i.e., no man pages) and I am also denied access to the file >> > /etc/nologin. "su" is also not available when I single-user boot. I can >> > delete the file when logged in as root, but then it reinstates itself when >> > I reboot. >> >> Oh, you have to key in "mount /" then "mount -a" to get your commands >> back and get / back to read/write. >> >> > This is only one of many problems I have had, including no login prompt on >> > boot, my atapi CD-ROM isn't recognized, my lpd daemon has to be >> > re-activated manually with ever print..... it think all the problems are >> > the result of using an atapi CD-ROM boot floppy from the 2.1.0 release to >> > install from the Walnut Creek 2.0.5 CD. The install was not very clean. > >so i booted with "-s" and did the "mount /" and "mount -a". Then I >removed the file /etc/nologin. When i rebooted, it had reappeared. It is >just like before. I delete it, and next time it is there again. Sounds like someone is playing a trick on you. /etc/nologin is normally created by the shutdown command and is normally removed in the system startup script /etc/rc. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 23:17:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA03841 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (s_koyin@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.6.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03831 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from s_koyin@localhost) by eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (8.7.4/8.7.3) id QAA07137; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:17:27 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:17:26 +1000 (EST) From: HMG coA reductase To: Matthew Jason White cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dumb terminals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > i'd like advice on hooking up a dumb terminal to my FreeBSD box. > > i connected this laptop to my desktop with a serial laplink cable, > > set the /etc/ttys nicely, set up Windows Terminal on the laptop, but did > > not get a login: prompt. everything looks fine on the FreeBSD side, getty > > was running, and stty for ttyd0 shows desired settings. > > I dunno, you sure the laplink cable is null-modem wired? You sure that > both the FreeBSD and the laptop serial ports are running at the same > speed? yes, both ports are at the same speed. is there a difference between a null-modem cable and a "laplink" cable? the laplink cable works using DOS Interlnk/Intersvr. ivan From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 23:29:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA04702 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (s_koyin@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.6.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04695 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from s_koyin@localhost) by eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (8.7.4/8.7.3) id QAA07614; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:29:56 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:29:56 +1000 (EST) From: HMG coA reductase To: "Brendt T. Bennett" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please help: install problem-> 2.1.0-R In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19960714180133.250f5dd4@intele.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk if your DOS partition has a cluster size > 32k, then fBSD will not read it too well. use CHKDSK.EXE to find out the size of each "allocation unit" (=cluster). should be 16k or less. solution: use FIPS (make a backup of the boot sectors!) to create a partition, a small one, and you format it for DOS use and copy the BSD install files. boot up BSD, mount this partition (BSD can read it becuz its cluster size <16k if small enough). when you've finished inwtallation, you can delete this partition (using the ROOTBOOT.001 image) and restore to the previous state. the big DOS partition will still not be safely usable from BSD though. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 23:30:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA04798 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from meno.uchicago.edu (meno.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04787 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from meno.uchicago.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by meno.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA08960 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 01:32:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607150632.BAA08960@meno.uchicago.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: serial console MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <8956.837412346.1@meno.uchicago.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 01:32:27 -0500 From: steve farrell Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i didn't notice any mention in the kernel config about setting up a serial console. can anyone point me to good place to find out how to set this up? (i want console logging during boot, otherwise i'd just redirect syslog...) thanks - From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 23:39:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA05227 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA05213 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0ufhJp-00018AC; Mon, 15 Jul 96 02:39 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: rsh problem, 2.1-STABLE Date: 15 Jul 1996 02:39:43 -0400 Lines: 19 Message-ID: <4scp3f$18t@twwells.com> References: <4s9a3k$qk8@twwells.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article , Doug White wrote: : On 13 Jul 1996, T. William Wells wrote: : > + rsh -n -l root admin /root/bin/make-archive / . -print0 : > + dd bs=32k of=/dev/nrst0 : > + rsh -n -l root admin /root/bin/make-archive /usr . -print0 : > + dd bs=32k of=/dev/nrst0 : > admin.cyberenet.net: Connection refused : > + rsh -n -l root admin /root/bin/make-archive /usr2 . -print0 : > + dd bs=32k of=/dev/nrst0 : : This is a noticed problem with some of the r-utilies (rlogin as well). : There is a problem with the session timeout and socket re-usage (or : something like that) that interferes with the daemon restarting : correctly. I thought it was something like that. Anyone want to describe what the problem is, so I can maybe find a fix for it? This is not a problem I can "live with". From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 23:52:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA06435 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA06426 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA122003549; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:52:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199607150652.AA122003549@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA014443547; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:52:27 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: Any guidelines for upgrading from 2.1R to 2.1.5R ? To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 96 16:52:27 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I appreciate if anyone can tell me if there is any doco detailing the steps for upgrading from 2.1R to 2.1.5R. Thanks in advance. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 9210 5568 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 9210 5550 P.O. Box 221, Blackburn 3130, Australia From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 14 23:56:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA06901 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA06894 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA18730; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:55:25 -0700 (PDT) To: Haytham Algyndy cc: jkh@FreeBSD.org, questions@freebsd.com Subject: Re: upgrading from 2.1-STABLE to 2.1.5-Release In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:53:03 +1000." <199607142353.JAA05670@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:55:24 -0700 Message-ID: <18727.837413724@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just do a make world from your latest -stable sup and take a look through /usr/src/etc by hand to see if there's anything you wish to merge into your own /etc (your system will continue to work without this step, but you won't have some of the nifty auto-start features that a few packages now rely on). As to how long -stable will continue to run, well, your guess is as good as mine. :-) As far as I'm concerned, it died with 2.1.5-RELEASE, but fortran has shown us all that sometimes the dead refuse to stay that way. :) Jordan > Hi > > I have a small question. > > What are the steps to upgrade from 2.1-STABLE --> 2.1.5 RELEASE ? > Will the STABLE branch continue on the long run ? > > Thanks for an excellent job. > > Thank you > Haytham > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Haytham Abd-Alsalam Algyndy > Dept. of Elec. and Comp. Eng. > The UNIVERSITY of QUEENSLAND > Brisbane 4072, Queensland > Australia > haytham@elec.uq.edu.au > tel. 61 - 07 - 365 356 4 (AW) > Fax. 61 - 07 - 365 499 9 > ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 00:00:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA07438 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.tadiran.co.il (neptune.telecomm.tadiran.co.il [194.90.74.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07429 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from yoav@localhost) by neptune.tadiran.co.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA26496 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:58:23 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:58:23 +0300 (IDT) From: Yoav Newman (1822) Message-Id: <199607150658.JAA26496@neptune.tadiran.co.il> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Going on Vacation :) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 00:02:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA07643 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.tadiran.co.il (neptune.telecomm.tadiran.co.il [194.90.74.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07633 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from yoav@localhost) by neptune.tadiran.co.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA26590 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:00:22 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:00:22 +0300 (IDT) From: Yoav Newman (1822) Message-Id: <199607150700.KAA26590@neptune.tadiran.co.il> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Going on Vacation :) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 00:02:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA07684 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA07668 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0ufhg7-0001EcC; Mon, 15 Jul 96 03:02 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: system hangs? after resetting rtq_reallyold Date: 15 Jul 1996 03:02:44 -0400 Lines: 11 Message-ID: <4scqek$1kr@twwells.com> References: <199607150521.WAA02093@root.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199607150521.WAA02093@root.com>, David Greenman wrote: : options "NMBCLUSTERS=" : : ...to your kernel config file. Where is some number in the area of 2000 : and not more than 4000 (unless you know what you're doing). It's worth noting that 2.0 versions didn't need anywhere near this amount. When I upgraded to 2.1, it looked like I needed about twice what I'd previously needed. I've since doubled that and have been happy; I've set it to 4096. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 00:05:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA07995 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.tadiran.co.il (neptune.telecomm.tadiran.co.il [194.90.74.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07980 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:05:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from yoav@localhost) by neptune.tadiran.co.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA26683 for questions@freefall.freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:03:33 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:03:33 +0300 (IDT) From: Yoav Newman (1822) Message-Id: <199607150703.KAA26683@neptune.tadiran.co.il> To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Going on Vacation :) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 00:16:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA08939 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.tadiran.co.il (neptune.telecomm.tadiran.co.il [194.90.74.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA08891; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from yoav@localhost) by neptune.tadiran.co.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA26982; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:13:22 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:13:22 +0300 (IDT) From: Yoav Newman X-Sender: yoav@neptune To: announce@freebsd.org cc: hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, bugs@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, security@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/_/ -/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 00:36:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA10926 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA10898 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id AAA00259; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:35:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: First look: 2.1.5 install Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (Pointers for a more appropriate forum for this are greatly appreciated) Just finished going through the 2.1->2.1.5 upgrade. Software copyover (via ftp from a local machine) was error-free. I like the new bottom-level status display! Nice to know how fast the system is processing info. Phase 2 didn't go as well. It hosed sysconfig and services _BEFORE_ copying them to /usr/tmp/etc!! Luckily I didn't trust myself and made a separate backup of /etc so I was able to resurrect the proper /etc/services from the hacked-down version and found the proper settings in sysconfig. Here are the date/timestamps off of the "backups" (note they haven't been touched since mid-June): -rw-rw-r-- 1 root wheel 137 Jul 13 21:02 services -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8409 Jul 13 19:49 sysconfig Hm. /etc/services should be more like: -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 59967 Jul 14 22:39 services So Jordan, please fix that!! I think I got bit by this last time because I remember hunting through the archives looking for a services file. Looking at timestamps protocols may also be affected. I don't use it so I wouldn't know if it gets hosed or not. When I came back up (with the wrong sysconfig) there were some errors but nothing catastrophic. Once the configuration was correctly adjusted then all was back to normal. The only goofy thing was that my ed0 ( a nonamer NE2000) locked up for the first time *ever* while I was writing this mail message before. And it went 9 months without a burp before. :-/ Question: what is the new 'package startup' bit? I didn't see any explanative text or sample rc.d's regarding that. I noticed that the hooks for the popular software (apache, pcnfsd) had been removed. I've hacked them into rc.local until I understand the package startup section. (yeah, I should read CHANGES, but....) Poking through LINT I see some odd lines sprinkled in: First, an odd place for the ccd pseudo-device: # # BOUNCE_BUFFERS provides support for ISA DMA on machines with more # than 16 megabytes of memory. It doesn't hurt on other machines. # Some broken EISA and VLB hardware may need this, too. pseudo-device ccd 4 #Concatenated disk driver # # DUMMY_NOPS disables extra delays for some bus operations. The delays # are mostly for older systems and aren't used consistently. Probably # works OK on most EISA bus machines. # And then the infamous npx0 is in the middle of nowhere with no explanative text: # # MAXCONS is maximum number of virtual consoles, no more than 16 # default value: 12 # options "MAXCONS=16" device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr # # Optional ISA and EISA devices: Just some stuff I noticed. In all other cases, smooth transition. Hey, even the backported qcam driver compiled without a squeak. Thanks for the great release guys! Keep it up! Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 00:48:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA12277 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA12268 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA00881; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 03:47:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: dunn@harborcom.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: ftp(1) man page In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:05:52 CDT." <199607150311.XAA09598@ns2.harborcom.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 03:47:55 -0400 Message-ID: <877.837416875@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Bradley Dunn" wrote in message ID <199607150311.XAA09598@ns2.harborcom.net>: > Hmmm... man ftp says this: > ascii Set the file transfer type to network ASCII. This is the > default type. > Yet binary mode seems to be the default. Am I missing something? ascii mode IS the default, if you read the login sequence carefully, if the remote machine is ID'd as being UN*X, it goes to binary mode. Otherwise, it's ASCII ... this is probably a small oversight in the docs more than anything. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 00:58:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA13312 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.nation-net.com (www.nation-net.com [194.159.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA13296 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mag.nation-net.com (194.159.125.14) by www.nation-net.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:00:08 +0000 Message-ID: <31E9F9D5.75E9@nation-net.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:57:09 +0100 From: Paul Walsh X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Future domain re-visited Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry. Looking at the archives I can see there's been a lot about this in the past, but I can't find an answer anywhere. I'm using the seagate driver and mixing FD 1610 card with IDE I can't get the probe to detect st0. With or without bios chip. Mem addr set to ca000 . FreeBSD 2.1 standard CD release. Has seagate.c been updated since the CD? There - I've given you the option of a one word answer even. Thanks, Paul Walsh From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 00:58:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA13336 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA13329 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA02464; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607150758.AAA02464@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs? after resetting rtq_reallyold In-reply-to: Your message of "15 Jul 1996 03:02:44 EDT." <4scqek$1kr@twwells.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:58:22 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >In article <199607150521.WAA02093@root.com>, >David Greenman wrote: >: options "NMBCLUSTERS=" >: >: ...to your kernel config file. Where is some number in the area of 2000 >: and not more than 4000 (unless you know what you're doing). > >It's worth noting that 2.0 versions didn't need anywhere near this >amount. When I upgraded to 2.1, it looked like I needed about >twice what I'd previously needed. I've since doubled that and >have been happy; I've set it to 4096. 2.0 had a bug in it that caused it to use regular malloced buffers when it couldn't get mbuf clusters. It would do this until it deleted most or all of the kernel malloc area (and consume most of your memory in the process). The end result in any case was significantly reduced performance. 2.0.5 and later use mbuf clusters when it is reasonable to do so, and results in consistantly high performance. This can be a bit more memory wasteful, however, than the previous approach. It shouldn't be necessary to set NMBCLUSTERS that high on most "normal" systems. It would take several hundred TCP connections to exhaust 2000 mbuf clusters. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 02:17:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA20287 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 02:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA20278 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 02:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0ufjmk-00011DC; Mon, 15 Jul 96 05:17 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: system hangs? after resetting rtq_reallyold Date: 15 Jul 1996 05:17:43 -0400 Lines: 24 Message-ID: <4sd2bn$47f@twwells.com> References: <4scqek$1kr@twwells.com> <199607150758.AAA02464@root.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199607150758.AAA02464@root.com>, David Greenman wrote: : It shouldn't be necessary to set NMBCLUSTERS that high on most "normal" : systems. It would take several hundred TCP connections to exhaust 2000 mbuf : clusters. The machine in question is our main shell account server, which also hosts our Web server. A netstat shows the following. At 5AM. 169 CLOSING 65 ESTABLISHED 15 FIN_WAIT_1 5 FIN_WAIT_2 16 LAST_ACK 2 SYN_RCVD 2 SYN_SENT 34 TIME_WAIT During peak hours, I expect two or three times those numbers. The machine hasn't been rebooted in a month; it's used a maximum of 2036 clusters. Web servers in particular are going to want a large number of mbufs..... From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 03:08:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA25260 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 03:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA25248 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 03:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA02851; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 03:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607151008.DAA02851@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: system hangs? after resetting rtq_reallyold In-reply-to: Your message of "15 Jul 1996 05:17:43 EDT." <4sd2bn$47f@twwells.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 03:08:39 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >In article <199607150758.AAA02464@root.com>, >David Greenman wrote: >: It shouldn't be necessary to set NMBCLUSTERS that high on most "normal" >: systems. It would take several hundred TCP connections to exhaust 2000 mbuf >: clusters. > >The machine in question is our main shell account server, which >also hosts our Web server. A netstat shows the following. At 5AM. > > 169 CLOSING > 65 ESTABLISHED > 15 FIN_WAIT_1 > 5 FIN_WAIT_2 > 16 LAST_ACK > 2 SYN_RCVD > 2 SYN_SENT > 34 TIME_WAIT > >During peak hours, I expect two or three times those numbers. >The machine hasn't been rebooted in a month; it's used a maximum >of 2036 clusters. Yes, this is exactly what I was expecting. Thanks for the numbers to back this up. >Web servers in particular are going to want a large number of >mbufs..... Yes, absolutely. WWW servers are especially evil because of their transaction oriented nature. TCP was never designed for that. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 03:26:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA26642 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 03:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA26637 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 03:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guillotin.prism.uvsq.fr (guillotin.prism.uvsq.fr [193.51.25.1]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id MAA09599 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:26:39 +0200 (METDST) Received: from angrand.prism.uvsq.fr (angrand.prism.uvsq.fr [193.51.25.85]) by guillotin.prism.uvsq.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id MAA29491 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:26:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from (son@localhost) by angrand.prism.uvsq.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) id NAA04886 ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:29:15 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:29:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607151129.NAA04886@angrand.prism.uvsq.fr> From: Nicolas Souchu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: How can I submit a driver ? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've developed a driver for the IOMEGA ZIP parallel drive. see http://www.prism.uvsq.fr/~son/ppa3.html for details. Who should I contact to submit it to the hardware FAQ or greater, to a furture release ? nicolas -- Nicolas.Souchu@prism.uvsq.fr Laboratoire PRiSM - Versailles, FRANCE From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 03:32:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA27043 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 03:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA27034 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 03:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA03846; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 06:31:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "M.R.Murphy" cc: questions@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 14 Jul 1996 13:54:46 PDT." <199607142054.NAA14915@meerkat.mole.org> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 06:31:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3843.837426713@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "M.R.Murphy" wrote in message ID <199607142054.NAA14915@meerkat.mole.org>: > This ought to go somewhere other than questions. Trashcan, maybe :-) Definately. Jonathan (PostMaster): Any chance of getting that ``inappropriate content filter'' in place? I think this article would fall into that category :-) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 04:25:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA00669 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 04:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sam.networx.ie (dublin-ts1-52.indigo.ie [194.125.133.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA00661 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 04:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mip1.networx.ie (mip1.networx.ie [194.9.12.1]) by sam.networx.ie (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA03417; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:36:42 GMT X-Organisation: I.T. NetworX Ltd X-Business: Network Consultancy and Training X-Address: 67 Merrion Square, Dublin 2, Ireland X-Voice: +353-1-676-8866 X-Fax: +353-1-676-8868 Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:34:37 BST From: Michael Ryan Reply-To: mike@NetworX.ie Subject: Re: deleted st0 To: Paul Walsh Cc: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Jul 1996 16:06:40 +0100 Paul Walsh wrote: > Problem 1: I'm trying to configure my Python DAT . Does this need to be done at sysintall time? When I run -c at boot I don't get an st0 option but the st0 line is in my kernel. Dunno what's wrong here; if it's a SCSI drive, once it reports back that it has "Sequential Access", it'll be mapped to the st driver. This should happen automatically once the drive is configured okay. > Problem 2: In trying to do this I,ve erased st0 in /dev and MAKEDEV.local st0 and mknod st0 b 5 won't re-generate it. Use /dev/MAKEDEV, not /dev/MAKEDEV.local (this does nothing). Mike --- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 05:41:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA04081 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 05:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zaraza.bofh.org.il (root@zaraza.bofh.org.il [192.115.153.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA04063 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 05:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zaraza.bofh.org.il (sgt@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zaraza.bofh.org.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18010 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:42:12 +0200 (IST) Message-Id: <199607151342.PAA18010@zaraza.bofh.org.il> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: firewall on FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==!Exmh_-1590452672P"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:42:09 +0200 From: Sergei Barbarash Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --==!Exmh_-1590452672P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, I need to install a firewall - I want it to be based on FreeBSD. What's the best way to do it / the best free software to use? Thanks -- ============================================================================ Sergei Barbarash WWW: http://www.netmedia.net.il/sgt/ NetMedia International, System Administrator & Programmer ================== Office: +972-2-795860; Home: +972-2-664779 ================================= --==!Exmh_-1590452672P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQEVAwUBMepKrPU11OVh4P5FAQGv1ggAz6dWS50ZAzzw0XeOXYoHPZYVlREF1kpp QuubsDpbjTIKsYcUw8ioDp02HG6EtovUcLe+QJFhpvDYx3+dFp0qSPk+0U560d3+ 0BcQAF2MW5dC5R0vT0bYK2mrbKje5zHzkOzYhm31k7ldrmKEGLmxCpjNrZIthCJi fHlInF4JdzDBm6Dc+WPfRc4Bsqi9jNb7DH5uFhoZOYHgsdRodZOzA3slJFGGmQWA RspB++Bw0ms/ANuqvv/xaqPlQkI/TsL77/3bSsNQoRJjHXqCNlF2/+sv1F+mf1j1 jJfNFGujFrURun1X1d+MtrazyAs4JCwgT5/bWOUFcv/rAvtWbMZN0Q== =HQzs -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --==!Exmh_-1590452672P-- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 05:59:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA04999 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 05:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA04992 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 05:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id OAA17538; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:58:52 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (OAA00580); Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:45:53 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199607151445.OAA00580@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: setcolor for bsd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:45:53 +0000 (GMT) Cc: sindrome@interaccess.com In-Reply-To: <31E984CB.365F@interaccess.com> from "sindrome@interaccess.com" at Jul 14, 96 11:37:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I have been searching for a small application called "setcolor" for BSD > and can't find it anywhere. It's a simple application that allows you > to change your background and foreground colors from the prompt. If I remember well, the vidcontrol command has this feature. -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 06:18:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA05784 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 06:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA05779 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 06:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id aa17734; 15 Jul 96 13:17 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ac23086; 13 Jul 96 1:24 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA02535; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:28:07 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:28:07 GMT Message-Id: <199607122228.WAA02535@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: beau@webmaster.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <19960711221956890.AAA221@vrml> (beau@webmaster.com) Subject: Re: Install Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> beau@webmaster.com (Beau Giles) writes: > > I'm booting up with the boot disk and the generic kernel recoginizes my > floppy, hard, and SCSI CD-ROM drives, then everything goes blank except for > a large white cursor in the lower left hand corner. Nothing happens next, > it just sits there. Hmm. According to my boot messages, it should probe the video card next. Can you tell us what video card you have? If it's an ATI Mach, there are known problems with probing this card - basically you have to enter -c at the boot prompt and disable sio3. If it's not, or the above didn't work, or didn't make any sense, please feel free to come back to us. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 06:38:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA06868 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 06:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tad.cetlink.net (ns1.cetlink.net [206.31.104.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA06863 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 06:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by tad.cetlink.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA13440; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:38:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeffrey Wheat Message-Id: <199607151338.JAA13440@tad.cetlink.net> Subject: Re: FrontPage Web Extensions To: fbsd-isp@launchpad.win.net Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:38:13 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Joe Mays - FreeBSD-ISP" at Jul 13, 96 03:13:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Joe Mays - FreeBSD-ISP's email > > >Just upgrade your FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE, and everything will be okay. The > >problem is that the extensions are for BSDI 2.0, which isn't supported by > >FreeBSD 2.1R. Once you 'sup' 2.1-STABLE you'll be able to run them no > >probs. You may have to installed DES crypt routines (you don't need them, > >but it makes FrontPage work with BSD's password file..) > > I'm running 2.1 stable, and I wasn't able to get them to install > for the cern web server. It keeps wiping out at the point where it > tries to create the config file with the message to the effect that > "File:/usr/local/frontpage/" is an illegal path. *Obviously* it's > an illegal path. I got on the phone with the Microsoft Tech > Support person who handles the unix front page stuff, we went > through the installation together and the config files for the > cern web server, he agreed I was doing everything correctly, and > said he would look into the problem and call me back. The next > day he called back and informed me that the extensions don't work > with FreeBSD 2.1 stable, although "just between you and me, I know > of one person that got them work by changing the kernel, but I > don't know what he did." > > If anyone out here knows how to install them and get them to work > under 2.1 stable I would love to hear how you did it. I am the person that the Microsoft guy was referring to. We have Frontpage running on all of our web servers. All that I had to do to get this to work was to sup the stable sources, rebuild the world and a new kernel. Next I made a tree for my web and made sure that all of the files and directories were owned by user.group http. The other thing is that we are using Apache for our webservers. Make sure that if you use Apache that you install with the apache-manual-restart server option. Regards, Jeff > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 07:09:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA08134 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 07:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA08128 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 07:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id aa08541; 15 Jul 96 14:41 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ac18539; 13 Jul 96 19:12 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00949; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:47:20 GMT Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:47:20 GMT Message-Id: <199607131147.LAA00949@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: ptemple@vvm.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31E6FBDC.272A@vvm.com> (ptemple@vvm.com) Subject: Re: DPT SCSI controller Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Paul N. Temple" writes: > > Is there or will there be support for DPT's caching controllers? It's being worked on. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 07:21:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA10647 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 07:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA10618 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 07:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA11508; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:20:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:20:55 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607151420.AA11508@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Archie Cobbs Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu, humprey@linux1.dlsu.edu.ph, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: tun0 message In-Reply-To: <199607142156.OAA04155@bubba.whistle.com> References: <199607142156.OAA04155@bubba.whistle.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Has anyone seen instances (with 2.1-R) where "routed -q" is running, > and it hears a route to, say, 192.168.0.0, and instead of installing > the route as > 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 > it installs it as > 192.168.0.0 netmask 192.168.0.0 Yes, this is a very common and well-known bug. Upgrade to 2.1.5. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 07:58:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA15321 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 07:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA15316; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 07:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.6.3]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id HAA19059 ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 07:57:55 -0700 Received: (from roberte@localhost) by beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA15560; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:55:13 +0200 From: Robert Eckardt Message-Id: <199607151455.QAA15560@beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Subject: Re: ftp(1) man page To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG (Gary Palmer) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:55:12 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: dunn@harborcom.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <877.837416875@orion.webspan.net> from "Gary Palmer" at Jul 15, 96 03:47:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > "Bradley Dunn" wrote in message ID > <199607150311.XAA09598@ns2.harborcom.net>: > > Hmmm... man ftp says this: > > > ascii Set the file transfer type to network ASCII. This is the > > default type. > > > Yet binary mode seems to be the default. Am I missing something? > > ascii mode IS the default, if you read the login sequence carefully, > if the remote machine is ID'd as being UN*X, it goes to binary > mode. Otherwise, it's ASCII ... this is probably a small oversight in > the docs more than anything. I never thought of the man-page, because ftp tells me > Connected to server.dekanat-bio.ruhr-uni-bochum.de. > 220 server.dekanat-bio.ruhr-uni-bochum.de FTP server (Version 6.00) ready. > Name (server.dekanat-bio:roberte): > 331 Password required for roberte. > Password: > 230 User roberte logged in. > Remote system type is UNIX. ==== > Using binary mode to transfer files. ====== > ftp> Except, when it's a Solaris 2.4 machine > Connected to helios.bph.ruhr-uni-bochum.de. > 220 helios FTP server (UNIX(r) System V Release 4.0) ready. > Name (helios.bph:roberte): > 331 Password required for roberte. > Password: > 230 User roberte logged in. > ftp> dir > 200 PORT command successful. > 150 ASCII data connection for /bin/ls (134.147.160.165,40001) (0 bytes). > -rw-rw-r-- 1 roberte ftirwork 175 Feb 17 11:05 noti > 226 ASCII Transfer complete. > ftp> get noti > local: noti remote: noti > 200 PORT command successful. > 150 ASCII data connection for noti (134.147.160.165,40002) (175 bytes). ===== > 226 ASCII Transfer complete. > 199 bytes received in 0.0014 seconds (1.4e+02 Kbytes/s) > ftp> quit Any idea why Solaris isn't Un*x ? ( ftp> system ) ( 500 'SYST': command not understood. ) ( I trap into this nearly everytime I transfer a binary file :-( ) Regards, Robert -- Robert Eckardt ( Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Inst.f.Theor.Physik, NB6/169 ) Universitaetsstrasse 150, D-44780 Bochum, Germany ----X---8---- Telefon: +49 234 700-3709, Telefax: +49 234 7094-574 8 E-Mail: RobertE@MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de --------8---- URL: http://WWW.MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de/ >>> Fuer die einen ist es bloss ein Betriebssystem, <<< >>> fuer die anderen ist es der laengste Virus der Welt. .... Windows 95 <<< From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 08:34:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA17846 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA17833 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA00856; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:31:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: M C Wong cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any guidelines for upgrading from 2.1R to 2.1.5R ? In-Reply-To: <199607150652.AA122003549@hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, M C Wong wrote: > I appreciate if anyone can tell me if there is any doco > detailing the steps for upgrading from 2.1R to 2.1.5R. Just did this last night. 1. Save your current /etc to somewhere safe. 2. Boot the floppy, configure devices as usual. 3. At the menu, select "upgrade". 4. Configure the disk and disklabel info so the filesystems are NOT newfs'd (hit M and the mountpoint on each partition, It defaults to no newfs but just make sure). 5. Select the distributions you want (should be the same as what you picked before, especially when concerning DES). note there is a compat21 option, you will surely want to install that :-) 6. Select & configure the media (most likely ftp). 7. Hit it, sit back and relax for a bit. 8. Come back, note & confirm all files that sysconfig can't upgrade. You'll be dropped to a shell prompt; make changes by copying or editing files as necessary. 9. type 'reboot' and check the boot config. 10. Rebuild & reinstall the kernel. 11. Reboot one final time and you're off. That's a generic guide to upgrading any FreeBSD -RELEASE version. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 08:47:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA18532 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18525 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA00884; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:47:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:47:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: HMG coA reductase cc: Matthew Jason White , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dumb terminals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, HMG coA reductase wrote: > > > i'd like advice on hooking up a dumb terminal to my FreeBSD box. > > > i connected this laptop to my desktop with a serial laplink cable, > > > set the /etc/ttys nicely, set up Windows Terminal on the laptop, but did > > > not get a login: prompt. everything looks fine on the FreeBSD side, getty > > > was running, and stty for ttyd0 shows desired settings. > > > > I dunno, you sure the laplink cable is null-modem wired? You sure that > > both the FreeBSD and the laptop serial ports are running at the same > > speed? > yes, both ports are at the same speed. > is there a difference between a null-modem cable and a "laplink" cable? > the laplink cable works using DOS Interlnk/Intersvr. they're the same. I missed that, sorry. Let's see your /etc/ttys. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 08:50:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA18739 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18682 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA00891; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:49:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Lic. Vladimir Armenta" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <31E7CDFD.3D2C@tsi.com.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [This was a followup to a question In answered, anyone have any comments?] On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Lic. Vladimir Armenta wrote: > I=B4m glad you attended my message, and hopping my english made sense, I= =B4ll keep trying to > express my ideas this way. Here are some facts in order to give you more = details about > my case : >=20 > a).- We are currently using IPX/SPX protocol. > b).- Our applications where developed using CA-Clipper, for DOS &= Novell Netware At this point things are not looking up. FreeBSD doesn't support IPX=20 except as a router (I believe). =20 > c).- We are open to any change in the way we work, in case this c= hange makes our > job more productive and improve our data comunications. Well, you would have to start all the way over with the software and=20 applications. Hey, you could use email, ftp, web, etc. and climb on=20 board the intranet craze. =20 > d).- I=B4m very interested in learning more about this subjects > e).- We have the chance to install E0 (64 kbps) lines (leased ?) = on > each site where needed. > f).- I=B4m studying CA-Visual Objects, thinking it is a way to mi= grate our > software to newer development tools, database managment and = interfaces. >=20 > If you have aditional questions, just mention them, and I=B4ll try to exp= lain them as well > as I can. Thanks a lot for your time. Doug White | University of Oregon =20 Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 09:02:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA19384 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19377 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA00915; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:02:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: James Daresta cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with Win95 In-Reply-To: <31E9B1C6.A47@wingnet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, James Daresta wrote: > I recently installed Free BSD 2.2 Snapshot on an extended drive. > Unfortuanately after a successful installation I could not boot to it. I > have Windows 95 and I followed the instructions you gave in FAQ 3.4. Yet > I do not have a dual boot. Could you please help me? I am eager to learn > and use Free BSD, but I cannot access it. Thanks. Did you install the boot manager on the FIRST disk, if it's installed on two? did you install it at all? You can use the 'bootinst.exe / boot.bin' pair on ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/2.2-xxxxxx-SNAP/tools to install it. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 09:09:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA19841 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.eds.com (ns1.eds.com [192.85.154.78]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19830 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ns1.eds.com (hello) id MAA31956; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:08:46 -0400 Received: from ws051eng (ws051eng.ictest.delcoelect.com [192.105.41.138]) by fs004eng.ictest.delcoelect.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA10490 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by ws051eng (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:08:41 -0500 From: awdorrin@ictest.delcoelect.com (Albert W. Dorrington) Message-Id: <199607151608.LAA25519@ws051eng> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help locating spell/spellprog X-Status: N X-Mailer: Applixware 4.0(429.26) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I was recently given the task of porting some scripts from a Sun platform to FreeBSD. Some of the scripts that needed porting use the 'spell' utility to parse files. However, I cannot seem to find a version of 'spell' for FreeBSD. (It exists on SunOS, Solaris and HP-UX.) The ispell utilities man page makes referance to spell, but as I said above, I have not been able to locate the package yet. My questions are: 1) Is spell/spellprog availible for FreeBSD? 2) If not, is their some way I can use ispell (or another utility) to just return a list of words it cannot identify? The syntax our scripts use is: spell -b +local_dictionary input_file Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can give. - Al From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 09:11:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA19958 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19952 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA00942; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:11:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: steve farrell cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: serial console In-Reply-To: <199607150632.BAA08960@meno.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, steve farrell wrote: > i didn't notice any mention in the kernel config about setting up a > serial console. can anyone point me to good place to find out how to > set this up? (i want console logging during boot, otherwise i'd just > redirect syslog...) look for COMCONSOLE in LINT. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 09:16:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA20339 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cps201.cps.cmich.edu (cps201.cps.cmich.edu [141.209.20.201]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA20320; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cps200 by cps201.cps.cmich.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA11323; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:15:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:15:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Mail Archive X-Sender: archive@cps200 To: Terry Lambert cc: Jeremy Noetzelman , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape Commerce Servers In-Reply-To: <199606102159.OAA04680@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Does anyone know about FreeBSD ports of the Commerce server and the News > > server? I know we've got Navigator ports, but I'd like to get a couple > > server ports as well if we have them available. > > The BSDI commerce server runs (but didn't Netscape just drop BSDI > so the can concentrate on the NT platform where Microsoft has > already won?). > Well actually Netscape is dropping support for all non-threaded OS's for their servers.. Matthew S. Bailey Sys Admin. Central Michigan University mbailey@cps.cmich.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 09:28:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA21111 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21098 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA00959; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:28:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: mtoole@hidesert.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86 In-Reply-To: <199607142253.PAA00321@www.hidesert.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Jul 1996 mtoole@hidesert.com wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to get the XFree86 window system to work but I've run out of > luck. I've tried every setting I could and it still doesn't startup. The > setting that is best matched with my hardware tries to start up but it gives > me an error "Fatal Server Error" followed by "No Screens Found". Sounds like you haven't allocated a vty for X. Make sure you have a vty that doesn't have getty running on it. > Could > you help me with this? I don't know if this will help any, but I have a > Shamrock monitor that says 50-60hz on the back and I have a Diamond Stealth > 64 DRAM 2mb memory on it. My computer is an AMD 586 133mhz with 16mb ram. I > don't know what other information I could give you that would help but if you > need any more information about my hardware, let me know. I would appreciate > it alot if you could help me get this running, i've been working on it for some > time now. The output from the x server startup would be quite helpful. The stealth uses the S3 server. (is that right? Or am I confusing it with the P9000 server again? :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 09:35:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA21693 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.nation-net.com (www.nation-net.com [194.159.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21681 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mag.nation-net.com (194.159.125.14) by www.nation-net.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:36:53 +0000 Message-ID: <31EA72F1.721@nation-net.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:33:53 +0100 From: Paul Walsh X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Unpopular SCSI card Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk One last check! Did anyone ever get the Future Domain 1610 to work? Right then, the rubbish bin it is. -- paul@nation-net.com Walsh Simmons 0161-839 9337 Manchester, UK From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 09:44:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22280 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:44:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22237 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br (clpc1.compuland.com.br [200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA13201 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:43:51 -0300 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:43:51 -0300 Message-Id: <199607151643.NAA13201@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: C libraries Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: Does anybody knows of some C librarie for string manipulation, (besides string.h) ? Thanks a lot. Helio. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 09:53:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22764 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22756 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA02819 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:46:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Upgrade to 2.1.5 or 2.2-SNAP? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My 2.1-STABLE (as of late April) should probably be upgraded because trying to port tcl/tk caused the kernel to core dump. The options seem to be: a) using sup/make world for either 2.1.5 or 2.2-SNAP; b) getting the boot.flp for one of these and "upgrading" using ftp (faster, but I'm not sure what an "upgrade" does); c) buying the cdrom for either of these and upgrading. Is backing up /etc the only essential protection one needs? Is there any reason for 2.1.5 instead of the 2.2 June 12 SNAP? For example, will the various packages/ports from 2.1 continue to work? Thanks-- Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 09:54:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22804 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway.pnu.com (gateway.upj.com [146.240.240.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22787; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:54:24 -0700 (PDT) From: ALHACK@am.pnu.com Received: from pw13mg.am.pnu.com (pw14mg.am.pnu.com) by gateway.pnu.com with SMTP id AA02779 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0); Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:42:51 -0400 Received: from ccMail by pw13mg.am.pnu.com (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 1ea74950; Mon, 15 Jul 96 12:40:53 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:34:42 -0400 Message-Id: <1ea74950@am.pnu.com> Subject: Re[2]: FreeBSD vs. Caldera Linux To: terry@lambert.org, James Raynard Cc: nate@mt.sri.com, gpalmer@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thank you everyone for the answers and including me in the discussion. Art ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Caldera Linux Author: James Raynard at INTERNET Date: 07/09/96 02:29 PM > > Lots. Maybe 'touched' was a poor word. Many files were 'fixed' in the > > 2.1 -> 2.1.5 upgrade, but very few new features were added, and a couple > > of them shouldn't have been (/dev/random stuff). The ELF stuff is *new* > > code, and as such doesn't fit the bill for the 'target' of the stable > > release. > > OK, I can accept this. It means that there is really little value > in 2.1.5R vs. 2.1R (from my personal point of view, anyway), but it > is a solid, rational position. There probably isn't much of interest to kernel hackers in 2.1.5 - it's aimed mainly at users who want to have existing bugs fixed without new ones being introduced at the same time :-) > > > I don't think a "weight of printout" argument is really applicable in > > > this case. > > > > It certainly is. The 'weight of printout' implies that the code is both > > new *and* fairly untested on a large scale. > > No, it implies that the "number of files touched" is an arbiter of > whether or not a change is a good one or not. The question is one of stability, not of value judgments. I don't believe anyone is arguing that large changes are automatically bad, just that it takes longer for them to settle down sufficiently to be made available in a release. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 10:02:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA23345 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.rpi.edu (root@cs.rpi.edu [128.213.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA23340; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eggbeater.cs.rpi.edu by cs.rpi.edu (5.67a/1.4-RPI-CS-Dept) id AA13353; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:04:49 -0400 (jamah from eggbeater.cs.rpi.edu) Received: from localhost by eggbeater.cs.rpi.edu (SMI-8.6/2.3-RPI-CS-client) id NAA23480; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:02:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199607151702.NAA23480@eggbeater.cs.rpi.edu> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: bugs@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: 2.1.5 installation does not work. Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:02:28 -0400 From: Jon Mah Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To Whom It May Concern: I have attempted FTP install on 2.1.5-RELEASE, and it has not worked for me. Every time I try, it begins an FTP connection, and then mid-connection, it stops, the connection drops, and my machine becomes non-pingable. This happens every time, and is site independent. I have tried it on ftp.freebsd.org, ftp2.freebsd.org, ftp3.freebsd.org, and a host on the local network with a mirror. I have successfully done FTP installs of 2.1 and 2.0 in the past, and I would appreciate any help as soon as possible regarding this. I am running a Pentium 60 with 32 MB of RAM, a 1.2 Gig HD and 540 MB HD (both on wdc0) and a 3com 3c509 ISA Ethernet card (ep0). All the hardware is recognized correctly. Again, any help that can be offered as soon as possible would be very much appreciated. Thanks. Jon Mah (jamah@cs.rpi.edu) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 10:08:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA23604 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.depaul.edu (root@shrike.depaul.edu [140.192.1.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA23597 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gorilla.silver.com (dept83.ac-sia.depaul.edu [140.192.94.83]) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.6.10/8.5) with SMTP id MAA23125; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:06:13 -0500 Message-ID: <31EA7B17.1077@shrike.depaul.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:08:39 -0500 From: Alexander Litvak Organization: DePaul University X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: APC BACKUPS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -- *** DePaul Online - A Service Provided by: *** The Information Technology division of *** DePaul University I have been searching the NET for several days trying to find simple daemon to work with APC BACK-UPS so far no lack. I found several programs but they work with SMART UPS wich is not what I have. Linux has very good HOWTO and software for my battery but I have to run BSD 2.1R please tell me if could run linux software and if I can't please give me an idea where I could get software and info for APC BACK-UPS (again not smart one). Very frustrated why don't we have howto's for FreeBSD!!!!! please e-mail me at alitvak@shrike.depaul.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 10:08:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA23618 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hod.tera.com (hod.tera.com [206.215.142.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23613 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [206.215.142.62]) by hod.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27953; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:07:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA10652; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607151707.KAA10652@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: /etc/nologin file invunerability To: davidg@root.com Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Cc: durang@u.washington.edu, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607150612.XAA02199@root.com> from David Greenman at "Jul 14, 96 11:12:31 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to David Greenman: > >> > I tried booting with -s option, and found that I have few commands at my > >> > disposal (i.e., no man pages) and I am also denied access to the file > >> > /etc/nologin. "su" is also not available when I single-user boot. I can > >> > delete the file when logged in as root, but then it reinstates itself when > >> > I reboot. > >> > >> Oh, you have to key in "mount /" then "mount -a" to get your commands > >> back and get / back to read/write. > >> > >> > This is only one of many problems I have had, including no login prompt on > >> > boot, my atapi CD-ROM isn't recognized, my lpd daemon has to be > >> > re-activated manually with ever print..... it think all the problems are > >> > the result of using an atapi CD-ROM boot floppy from the 2.1.0 release to > >> > install from the Walnut Creek 2.0.5 CD. The install was not very clean. > > > >so i booted with "-s" and did the "mount /" and "mount -a". Then I > >removed the file /etc/nologin. When i rebooted, it had reappeared. It is > >just like before. I delete it, and next time it is there again. > > Sounds like someone is playing a trick on you. /etc/nologin is normally > created by the shutdown command and is normally removed in the system startup > script /etc/rc. > Here's an idea: Ken, when you've booted with ``-s'' and remounted things, *don't* remove /etc/nologin. Rather cp it somewhere so that you've got a copy available. Then vi /etc/nologin and either deleted every line or put in an echo line to trace where and how this file is getting added back. Strange... but there is an explaination. gary From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 10:09:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA23674 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23662 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA07130; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:49:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607151649.MAA07130@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: bsd,xwindows To: 101650.1651@CompuServe.COM (dfdfdd) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:49:54 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: <960714184153_101650.1651_IHN129-1@CompuServe.COM> from dfdfdd at "Jul 14, 96 02:41:53 pm" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk dfdfdd wrote... > Hello John, > > trying to install x-windosws under freeBsd is not so easy. While starting with > startx the output is always" X Init no such file : no server "X" in path". > But in the /X11R6/bin directory is the X- and the X86_SVGA file. What can i do ? > > Regards, > Andreas > > Make sure that the directory '/usr/X11R6/bin' is in your PATH. You can check this with 'echo $PATH'. In order to make sure it is set, add an appropriate line to your '.profile' (sh, bash, etc.) or '.cshrc' (csh) so that it's set on login. I have added it to '/etc/profile' so that all users (no-one on my system uses a C-shell) get it added by default. John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 10:21:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA24505 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24500 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id bl25941; 15 Jul 96 17:13 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ab15225; 14 Jul 96 11:16 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA01193; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 02:03:26 GMT Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 02:03:26 GMT Message-Id: <199607140203.CAA01193@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu CC: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, humprey@linux1.dlsu.edu.ph, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Annelise Anderson on Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:28:15 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: tun0 message Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > unless you have to." :-) It's a normal message, but unless you have to, > > don't run routed; disable it in /etc/sysconfig. > > And why not run routed? Because it is not in my interest? Or whose? Because routing is a very complicated subject, which very few people really understand, and routed has a nasty tendency to delete routes that are still in use, create bogus ones, etc. Users whose only contact with a network is dialling up their ISP don't need it anyway, so the best advice to give to people in that situation is to tell them not to run it. People who are running ISPs or large networks, on the other hand, can probably afford to spend time in getting their routing straight, or even just shell out for a dedicated router. (And if they can't, there isn't much I could say that would help them!) > This advice is often given and never explained. I find that not > running routed causes long delays in booting and also in running > some programs. This sounds more like a name server problem - if a name server lookup fails, it stops and waits for 75 seconds (which usually feels more like 15 minutes!). Try putting the "hosts" line before the "bind" one in /etc/host.conf, and putting entries for machines you frequently use in /etc/hosts. eg I have /etc/host.conf ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hosts bind /etc/hosts ~~~~~~~~~~ 127.0.0.1 localhost 158.152.42.77 jraynard.demon.co.uk 158.152.254.254 news.demon.co.uk 158.152.1.72 post.demon.co.uk The entries refer to my machine, my ISP's Usenet news server and their mail server (which I use as a smart SMTP host). If you are permanently connected to a network, it's probably worth setting up a cache-only nameserver on your machine. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 10:25:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA24753 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24747 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ah02433; 15 Jul 96 18:03 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa23208; 13 Jul 96 1:26 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA02670; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:56:14 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:56:14 GMT Message-Id: <199607122356.XAA02670@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: jim@starshine.org CC: craigh@bugsoft.com, matt@bdd.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607121145.EAA02180@starshine> (message from Jim Dennis on Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:45:38 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > >drive to boot from. If you get bored typing hd(1,a)/kernel every time > > > >you boot, here's how to change them so it happens automatically:- > > > ># cd /sys/i386/boot/biosboot > > > ># vi boot.c > > So I take it that there's no way to do this with a command > like Linux' 'rdev' (which patches the root device info into > the kernel's binary image). I also gather that there's there's > no way to pass this information as "parameters" to the kernel in > BootEasy (similar to what LILO or LOADLIN.EXE do to the Linux > kernel). Not that I know of - I don't think BootEasy was designed with FreeBSD in mind :-( > Where are the other kernel boot options documented? I know > about '(device,slice)/kernel.filename' (like Sun's) and about > '-c' but what about -C, -v, etc (I guess -s would be "single > user mode"). boot(8) [Problem snipped - I think I'll quit while I'm behind :-(] > > IDE drives are detected before SCSI drives by the BIOS, so the > > bootstrap code has to be on wd0. > > Technically this is only true if you configured the CMOS > to expect them. It is possible to set your CMOS to > "none-installed" and then the BIOS extensions on your > SCSI adapter will have a chance to boot off of one of your > SCSI disks. Yes, I was going to put something like this in and then changed my mind. Incidentally, if you do do this, FreeBSD will still to be able to detect the IDE drive after it boots, even though the BIOS doesn't know about it. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 10:33:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25337 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25332; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA19429; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:32:28 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:32:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607151732.LAA19429@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Jon Mah Cc: questions@freebsd.org, bugs@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5 installation does not work. In-Reply-To: <199607151702.NAA23480@eggbeater.cs.rpi.edu> References: <199607151702.NAA23480@eggbeater.cs.rpi.edu> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have attempted FTP install on 2.1.5-RELEASE, > and it has not worked for me. Every time I try, it begins > an FTP connection, and then mid-connection, it stops, ... > and 540 MB HD (both on wdc0) and a 3com 3c509 ISA Ethernet card (ep0). ^^^^^^^^^^ A 'bug' was introduced at the very last minute which causes this to occur. Unfortunately, I don't have a solution for it at this time, but suffice it to say that it's a known bug. If you can get a different ethernet card you should be able to install FreeBSD correctly, and hopefully a patch will be made available to fix the bug. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 10:46:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA26533 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA26501; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA00933; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:46:21 -0700 (PDT) To: Jon Mah cc: questions@freebsd.org, bugs@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5 installation does not work. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:02:28 EDT." <199607151702.NAA23480@eggbeater.cs.rpi.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:46:21 -0700 Message-ID: <931.837452781@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am running a Pentium 60 with 32 MB of RAM, a 1.2 Gig HD > and 540 MB HD (both on wdc0) and a 3com 3c509 ISA Ethernet card (ep0). ^^^^^^^^^^ Sigh.. Yes, it looks like we managed to break support for this card at the last moment for some people (see the KNOWNBUG.TXT file at the root of the 2.1.5 release directory). I'm not sure what to suggest except to say that if you can locate a spare ethernet card just for installation, you can apply the patch in KNOWNBUG.TXT and get your card working again post-installation. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 11:00:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27261 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.rpi.edu (root@cs.rpi.edu [128.213.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27205; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eggbeater.cs.rpi.edu by cs.rpi.edu (5.67a/1.4-RPI-CS-Dept) id AA14472; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:02:01 -0400 (jamah from eggbeater.cs.rpi.edu) Received: from localhost by eggbeater.cs.rpi.edu (SMI-8.6/2.3-RPI-CS-client) id NAA23592; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:59:40 -0400 Message-Id: <199607151759.NAA23592@eggbeater.cs.rpi.edu> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Jon Mah , questions@freebsd.org, bugs@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org, jamah@cs.rpi.edu Subject: Re: 2.1.5 installation does not work. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:46:21 PDT." <931.837452781@time.cdrom.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:59:39 -0400 From: Jon Mah Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan: This is an idea I was hypothesizing about, since I know that the 2.0/2.1 FTP installs have worked fine for me, would it be possible to use a boot disk from 2.0 (or 2.1) and change the release to be retrieved to "2.1.5-RELEASE". ... or does that sound like too simple of a workaround? ;> Thanks. Jon Mah (jamah@cs.rpi.edu) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 11:05:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27580 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA27574 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA01067; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:05:13 -0700 (PDT) To: Jon Mah cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5 installation does not work. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:59:39 EDT." <199607151759.NAA23592@eggbeater.cs.rpi.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:05:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1064.837453913@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Edited down to questions - please don't spam 3 major lists with identical postings :-( I should have trimmed the cc line myself in my last reply. ] This, unfortunately, won't work without some major surgery to your distribution tree. The info files which describe how many pieces are in each distribution used to be in the root floppy, but are now part of the distributions themselves. This fundamental change in assumptions would break the 2.1R installer, and the only way I can see actually making it work would be to move the 2.1R root.flp image into the 2.1.5R floppies directory, unpack it someplace (it's a cpio file), and then update everything in stand/info/* to match the layout of the 2.1.5R distribution, packaging it back into a root.flp image again. Jordan > Jordan: > > This is an idea I was hypothesizing about, since > I know that the 2.0/2.1 FTP installs have worked fine for me, > would it be possible to use a boot disk from 2.0 (or 2.1) and > change the release to be retrieved to "2.1.5-RELEASE". > ... or does that sound like too simple of a workaround? ;> > Thanks. > > Jon Mah > (jamah@cs.rpi.edu) > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 11:09:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27760 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hod.tera.com (hod.tera.com [206.215.142.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA27753 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [206.215.142.62]) by hod.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29068; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:09:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA11048; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607151809.LAA11048@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: C libraries To: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607151643.NAA13201@unix1.ism.com.br> from "Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica" at "Jul 15, 96 01:43:51 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica: > Hi: > > Does anybody knows of some C librarie for string manipulation, > (besides string.h) ? > There is a solid library of string manipulation functions called `publib' authored by Lars Wirzenius (lars.wirzenius@helsinki.fi) that was published in one of the sources newsgroups a couple of years ago. Search for it and you'll find it. I've hacked a function or two of my own to it, but never send it for inclusion. Prob'ly should have. There is nothing like _not_ having to re-invent code. gary kline > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 11:30:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA29119 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29112 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id NAA04053; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:29:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:29:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199607151829.NAA04053@plains.nodak.edu> To: awdorrin@ictest.delcoelect.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help locating spell/spellprog Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 1) Is spell/spellprog availible for FreeBSD? > 2) If not, is their some way I can use ispell (or another utility) > to just return a list of words it cannot identify? ispell -l --mark. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 11:31:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA29180 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA29173 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA19310 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:03:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA02920; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:44:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson Reply-To: Annelise Anderson To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: "Humprey C. Sy" , fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tun0 message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > > Routed is telling you something. That something should be "don't run me > > > unless you have to." :-) It's a normal message, but unless you have to, > > > don't run routed; disable it in /etc/sysconfig. > > > > And why not run routed? Because it is not in my interest? Or whose? > > This advice is often given and never explained. I find that not > > running routed causes long delays in booting and also in running > > some programs. > > Then you need to remove references to the ${hostname} in /etc/sysconfig > and replace them with your IP. > > And make sure your routing table setup in sysconfig is right too. The machine with the long delays without routed is my home machine, which sometimes makes slip connections with a dynamic IP assigned and sometimes makes a ppp connection with a fixed IP. It has a hostname that Stanford's name server knows about (in relation to the fixed IP address). I would therefore not want to use a fixed IP address instead of a host name. So I run routed -s on it, and it's happy. On my office machine, which is the ppp server, routed -q runs and this appears necessary--I think--to handle the proxy arp instruction (and ipfw is running also). > > Problem with routed is that if your router goes bonkers then you can kiss > your default route goodbye. I got bit by it once and stopped using it > right then and there. But the default route goes to the router! How else are the packets going to get out???? Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 11:36:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA29563 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer04.u.washington.edu (durang@homer04.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA29556 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer04.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA82566; Mon, 15 Jul 96 11:35:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:35:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: David Greenman Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /etc/nologin file invunerability In-Reply-To: <199607150612.XAA02199@root.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >so i booted with "-s" and did the "mount /" and "mount -a". Then I > >removed the file /etc/nologin. When i rebooted, it had reappeared. It is > >just like before. I delete it, and next time it is there again. > > Sounds like someone is playing a trick on you. /etc/nologin is normally > created by the shutdown command and is normally removed in the system startup > script /etc/rc. Well, I guarantee you it's not me and it's not my wife. That rules out the trick theory! I can see the command in /etc/rc to remove the file. Is there a reason that rc is not operating? Something is trying to mount Cd9660, which I don't have. I get a message like "filesystem mount failed, startup aborted." Does that mean the CD-ROM startup is aborted, or the entire mission??? Perhaps that is what's stopping the /etc/rc from doing it's job? Thanks in advance! Ken From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 11:39:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA29790 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29778 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA07402; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607151841.OAA07402@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: MSDOS file systems.s To: jjal@remus.rutgers.edu (Joshua Lambert) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: <199607140606.CAA24694@remus.rutgers.edu> from Joshua Lambert at "Jul 14, 96 02:06:54 am" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joshua Lambert wrote... > How would I go about mounting a msdos filesystem on HD 0 Partition 1.on-a > I have figured out how to mount a floppy but what is he device name for theave > HD? BTW, how can I use the handbook? It's on my HD... > I can't access it. It says permission denied. And I'm using root.' > thanks./ > 'mount -t msdos /dev/wd0s1 /dos' Make sure there _is_ a directory /dos. The special device - wd0s1 is made up of the following parts: wd - IDE / EIDE (from Western Digital, I guess) 0 - first disk (second is 1, and so on) s1 - Slice 1 - first partition. Your kernel must have MSDOS filesystem support (GENERIC does). If you want the partition maounted automatically, at boot, add the following to '/etc/fstab' /dev/wd0s1 /dos msdos rw 0 0 This sets the filesystem read-write. BE CAREFUL - there are many cases where FreeBSD writing to the DOS partition has caused corruption. I haven't suffered, myself, but... John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 11:43:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA00293 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sol.newera.ab.ca (sol.newera.ab.ca [198.161.82.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA00278 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from olympus. (olympus.newera.ab.ca [198.161.82.144]) by sol.newera.ab.ca (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA00894; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:40:53 GMT Received: by olympus. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA11974; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:40:51 -0600 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:40:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Stephen Mathezer To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5 installation does not work. In-Reply-To: <931.837452781@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I am running a Pentium 60 with 32 MB of RAM, a 1.2 Gig HD > > and 540 MB HD (both on wdc0) and a 3com 3c509 ISA Ethernet card (ep0). > ^^^^^^^^^^ > > Sigh.. Yes, it looks like we managed to break support for this card > at the last moment for some people (see the KNOWNBUG.TXT file at the > root of the 2.1.5 release directory). I'm not sure what to suggest > except to say that if you can locate a spare ethernet card just for > installation, you can apply the patch in KNOWNBUG.TXT and get your > card working again post-installation. > > Jordan > Can anybody make a 'fixed' boot.flp available? That would make it much easier to get 2.1.5 installed and then building a new kernel is easy enough. -Steve From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 11:52:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA00975 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shogun.tdktca.com ([206.26.1.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00796; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shogun.tdktca.com (daemon@localhost) by shogun.tdktca.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id NAA16725; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:49:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from fa.tdktca.com (bsd.fa.tdktca.com [163.49.131.129]) by shogun.tdktca.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id NAA16718; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:49:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from alex@localhost) by fa.tdktca.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id NAA01586; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:52:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:52:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Alex Nash To: Jon Mah cc: jkh@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, bugs@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5 installation does not work. In-Reply-To: <199607151702.NAA23480@eggbeater.cs.rpi.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ Please direct followups to hackers ] On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Jon Mah wrote: > I have attempted FTP install on 2.1.5-RELEASE, > and it has not worked for me. Every time I try, it begins > an FTP connection, and then mid-connection, it stops, > the connection drops, and my machine becomes non-pingable. > This happens every time, and is site independent. I have > tried it on ftp.freebsd.org, ftp2.freebsd.org, ftp3.freebsd.org, > and a host on the local network with a mirror. > > I have successfully done FTP installs of 2.1 and 2.0 > in the past, and I would appreciate any help as soon as possible > regarding this. > > I am running a Pentium 60 with 32 MB of RAM, a 1.2 Gig HD > and 540 MB HD (both on wdc0) and a 3com 3c509 ISA Ethernet card (ep0). > All the hardware is recognized correctly. 3c509 support is badly broken in 2.1.5R :( Jordan, can we put together an alternate install disk with rev 1.28.4.5 of if_ep.c? 3c509 support will quickly become a headache if we don't (and probably will even if we do :) Alex From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 12:02:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01657 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01652 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA02268; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:01:41 -0700 (PDT) To: Alex Nash cc: Jon Mah , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5 installation does not work. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:52:53 CDT." Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:01:41 -0700 Message-ID: <2266.837457301@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > [ Please direct followups to hackers ] [No, please trim cc lines with 2 or more mailing lists included as a matter of general policy when you reply :-)] > Jordan, can we put together an alternate install disk with rev 1.28.4.5 > of if_ep.c? 3c509 support will quickly become a headache if we don't > (and probably will even if we do :) I'm out of disk space here, I'm afraid, and the 2 CDs are already spread out over 4 filesystems just to try and make everything fit. Once I start generating the transient CD images, that's the last of my float. In short, somebody else is going to have to do this because I simply don't have the resources here to build another full release. :-( Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 12:35:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA04188 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from masternet.it (root@masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA04170 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmarco (ts1port6d.masternet.it [194.184.65.28]) by masternet.it (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA23480; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:33:15 +0200 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960716110920.006789a4@masternet.it> X-Sender: gmarco@masternet.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:09:20 +0200 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: Re: TEAC CD55A Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 19.03 13/07/96 -0700, you wrote: >On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Randy DuCharme wrote: > >> Is there (or will there be) support for the TEAC CD55A CD-ROM drive? > >Nope. Teac won't release the specs. > On my laptop there is a TEAC 44E that works fine with 2.2 current. It's an ATAPI "standard" cdrom... Regards... +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ | Internet: gmarco@masternet.it | ,,, | | Internet: gmarco@nettuno.it | (o o) | | BIX : ggiovannelli@bix.com | ---oo0-(_)-0oo--- | | http://www.masternet.it/dsc/gmarco | Gianmarco | +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 12:36:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA04324 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04306 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA20201; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:36:16 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:36:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607151936.NAA20201@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Alex Nash , Jon Mah , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5 installation does not work. In-Reply-To: <2266.837457301@time.cdrom.com> References: <2266.837457301@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > [ Please direct followups to hackers ] > > [No, please trim cc lines with 2 or more mailing lists included as a matter > of general policy when you reply :-)] > > > Jordan, can we put together an alternate install disk with rev 1.28.4.5 > > of if_ep.c? 3c509 support will quickly become a headache if we don't > > (and probably will even if we do :) > > I'm out of disk space here, I'm afraid, and the 2 CDs are already > spread out over 4 filesystems just to try and make everything fit. > Once I start generating the transient CD images, that's the last of my > float. Since the CD's aren't burned, any chance of pulling the if_ep.c change out of the release? Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 12:41:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA04667 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA04657 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA26550 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:41:01 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA02397; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:21:04 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607151721.KAA02397@starshine> Subject: Re: firewall on FreeBSD To: sgt@netmedia.net.il (Sergei Barbarash) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607151342.PAA18010@zaraza.bofh.org.il> from "Sergei Barbarash" at Jul 15, 96 03:42:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > --==!Exmh_-1590452672P > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello, > > I need to install a firewall - I want it to be based on FreeBSD. What's the > best way to do it / the best free software to use? > SOCKS plus Darren Reed's IPFilter. Add TCP Wrappers for host level security, Tripwire for host-level integrity validation, and maybe some components from TIS FWTK (Firewall Toolkit) (particularly 'smapd'). Add in a copy of Brent Chapman's _Building_Firewalls_ book (O'Reilly & Associates) blend, bake and chill ;). Seriously -- a firewall has much more to do with designing a policy and not much to do with the implementation details and components. ftp://rtfm.mit.edu (or mirror) and look for the firewalls FAQ. What are the segments of you LAN? What are the services that need to flow in each direction between these segments? What services are you trying to provide to the Internet? What services do you want to be accessible from or through the Internet? Do you want to provide employees remote access? If so -- what services/applications should be remotely accessibly? What are you trying to protect (draw up scenarios and evaluate -- that is come up with cost risk assessments -- of each)? If you have to ask such a broad and general question ... you probably should hire a professional to come in a configure a firewall for you. This is particularly true if you want to quilt together your own from freeware components. Companies like CheckPoint and Borderware sell their products by pitching the idea that they are a "plug & play" solution that "does it all" and doesn't require any special knowledge on the part of the admin who sets it up. Both of these notions make me nervous (so I can't in good faith recommend any of the integrated commercial firewall products that I've seen). A firewall is useless without a data security policy. Jim Dennis, From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 12:43:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA04746 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA04737; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:43:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199607151943.MAA04737@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Good, cheap 8mm tape system needed To: obrien@antares.aero.org (Mike O'Brien) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607150011.RAA05803@antares.aero.org> from "Mike O'Brien" at Jul 14, 96 05:11:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mike O'Brien wrote: > > My Colorado Jumbo 350 floppy tape drive just blew up its motor for the > second time and I'm abandoning that product line. It's just not reliable: I've > had endless problems with media errors, hardware breakage, and the lack of > support under FreeBSD. > > It's time to get a real tape drive. I'm looking for a good 4 or 8mm > tape subsystem that a) works under things like Norton Backup (for the DOS > side of the house) and b) works right under FreeBSD as a no-fuss no-bother > SCSI tape drive. > > Is this available for under $1,000? If so, what is it, and where is it? > > Thanks! > > Mike O'Brien > aka Mr. Protocol, on a good day at least, which so far this is not > take a look at the hardware section of the handbook http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook.html hit the link "10.4 Storage Devices" then go to "10.4.5.3 scsi drives" several formats and ~20 scsi tape drives are listed jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 12:46:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA05148 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA05105; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA23496; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:46:35 -0600 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:46:35 -0600 (MDT) From: Joel Yancey To: Jon Mah cc: questions@freebsd.org, bugs@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5 installation does not work. In-Reply-To: <199607151702.NAA23480@eggbeater.cs.rpi.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think your the other one having this problem in #freebsd on efnet. i also have a simular problem, and if you hear anything, i would greatly appriciate if you could foward the answer to me. thanks Joel YAncey On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Jon Mah wrote: > > To Whom It May Concern: > > I have attempted FTP install on 2.1.5-RELEASE, > and it has not worked for me. Every time I try, it begins > an FTP connection, and then mid-connection, it stops, > the connection drops, and my machine becomes non-pingable. > This happens every time, and is site independent. I have > tried it on ftp.freebsd.org, ftp2.freebsd.org, ftp3.freebsd.org, > and a host on the local network with a mirror. > > I have successfully done FTP installs of 2.1 and 2.0 > in the past, and I would appreciate any help as soon as possible > regarding this. > > I am running a Pentium 60 with 32 MB of RAM, a 1.2 Gig HD > and 540 MB HD (both on wdc0) and a 3com 3c509 ISA Ethernet card (ep0). > All the hardware is recognized correctly. > > Again, any help that can be offered as soon as possible > would be very much appreciated. Thanks. > > Jon Mah > (jamah@cs.rpi.edu) > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 12:56:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA06057 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halon.barra.COM (halon.barra.com [144.203.11.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA06052 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:56:17 -0700 (PDT) From: William.Ying@ccgate.Barra.COM Received: from lazarus.barra.COM (root@lazarus.barra.com [144.203.13.57]) by halon.barra.COM (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA00435 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:59:25 -0700 Received: from ccgate.barra.com (ccgate.barra.com [144.203.4.245]) by lazarus.barra.COM (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id MAA27557 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:56:15 -0700 Received: from cc:Mail by ccgate.barra.com id AA837460887; Mon, 15 Jul 96 12:47:37 PST Date: Mon, 15 Jul 96 12:47:37 PST Message-Id: <9606158374.AA837460887@ccgate.barra.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Is Trident 9440 video card supported by X comes with 2.1.5? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Subject says it. - Bill - From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 13:05:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06731 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA06715 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA23773 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:05:30 -0600 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:05:29 -0600 (MDT) From: Joel Yancey To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.1.5R installation troubles Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, This is my hardware: Intel Dx/4 100 3com503 (not used currently) Paradise/WD 90C30 video USR Sportster 28.8 External 8 megs ram. ------------------ ok, i boot up with the boot.flp, run the upgrade (or novice installion, tried them both) and it runs great, until the FTP, then it ALWAYS stops at 1225100, and then if you wait a VERY long time, like an hour, it'll possible get more, or it'll timeout and hang up. most of the time it times out, and asks me if i want to try to get more, and i answer yes, it gets the doc, although it pauses about every meg or so, and then it goes on. the first part of my install my com2 wouldnt work, and com1 i cant use becuase for some reason i always loose my route to my ISP. but i got that working fine as of now, but a friend of mine also had to swtch com ports from 1 to 2 instead of like me 2 to 1, because it would talk to the modem, on neither of our computers. Most importantly i need to know why my install fails, and how to fix it, it would greatly be appriciated. =) thank you joel yancey From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 13:41:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA09433 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09426 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA27610 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:40:54 -0700 Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA07699 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607152040.QAA07699@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: ppp on 2.2-960612-SNAP To: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:40:54 -0400 (EDT) From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am using iijppp with dial-on-demand. The connection comes up up to a dozen times a day. Once every couple of days ppp gets itself into a state where this appears in the log file: 07-15 16:33:09 [7084] ** 1 Too many ECHO packets are lost. ** This message is raised immediately after packet mode is entered, and causes the link to drop. The modem is immediately re-dialed, and the same cycle repeats until I kill the ppp program. Re-starting ppp clears the problem. What does this mean? Is there any way of clearing the problem without killing ppp? John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 13:53:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA12119 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12064 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA02519; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:51:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Annelise Anderson cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, "Humprey C. Sy" , fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk, questions@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: tun0 message In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:44:59 PDT." Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:51:30 -0400 Message-ID: <2516.837463890@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson wrote in message ID : > But the default route goes to the router! How else are the packets going > to get out???? Because there is no authentication in RIP, so ANYONE on the network can advertise themselves as the default route, and sniff any traffic they like ... Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 14:03:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA14586 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA14554 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA19528 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:03:31 -0700 Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA07674 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:32:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607152032.QAA07674@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Printing on a Canon BJ10 To: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:32:19 -0400 (EDT) From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a Canon BJ10 set up to print from FreeBSD, both through lpd, locally and through Samba. When printing from FreeBSD, in simple text mode, I always lose the last 2 lines of every page. My printcap entry is: lp|local line printer:\ :lp=/dev/lp:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:pw=80:pl=63 \ :vf=vf:sh:if=/usr/local/libexec/bjif: The number of lines which print on a single page is 63, if I reduce this number, fewer lines are printed per page, but I still lose 2. The bjif filter does nothing with text files, it just passes them through. The same problem occurs if it is not present. The printcap entry for the Samba printer is identical. Print jobs from the PC print correctly, with no lost lines. PostScript print jobs (which run through Ghostscript and the bj10e driver) cause a printer error at the end of the first page. If anyone out there has a bj10 working correctly, I would be grateful for printacap and PS filters. TIA John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 14:10:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA15664 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA15625; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA07338 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5); Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:09:25 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA02840; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:54:50 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607152054.NAA02840@starshine> Subject: Re: Netscape Commerce Servers To: archive@cps201.cps.cmich.edu (Mail Archive) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: terry@lambert.org, jnoetzel@intermind.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Mail Archive" at Jul 15, 96 12:15:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > Does anyone know about FreeBSD ports of the Commerce server and the News > > > server? I know we've got Navigator ports, but I'd like to get a couple > > > server ports as well if we have them available. > > The BSDI commerce server runs (but didn't Netscape just drop BSDI > > so the can concentrate on the NT platform where Microsoft has > > already won?). > Well actually Netscape is dropping support for all non-threaded OS's for their > servers.. > Matthew S. Bailey I was at a party hanging out with three or four of Netscape's developement team over the weekend -- I didn't get the impression that they were doing either of these things. Granted we chatted more about the client side and business model issues -- mostly about Java and JavaScript which is what this particularly crew are working on most. I suggested that JavaScript (a.k.a. LiveScript take on one feature -- that the (to get rid of that atrocious code-embedded-in-comments hack). (He said they'll look at it for version 4.x). So, Matthew, what's the source of your info? I'd like to see more about this. Does FreeBSD support pthreads or some other implementation of threads? Any comments on Linux support for it? I realize that Netscape hasn't been putting commerce servers on "free" OS' -- personally I'd just as soon see them actually create a whole Linux distribution ("buy our server -- get the OS for free"). From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 14:17:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA16764 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fw.tabula.com (fw.tabula.com [204.160.137.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16757 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fw.tabula.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18030; Mon, 15 Jul 96 14:17:06 PDT Received: from tab012.tabula.com(204.119.64.12) by fw.tabula.com via smap (V1.3) id sma018018; Mon Jul 15 14:16:11 1996 Received: by tabula.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08661; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:14:43 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:14:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Thor Clark To: David Greenman Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs? after resetting rtq_reallyold In-Reply-To: <199607150521.WAA02093@root.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, David Greenman wrote: > >running 2.1 Release, straight off the cd > > > >The system doesn't actually hang - it just becomes unresponsive, while > >continuing to run some processes: eg will respond to a ping, and continue > >to run some background processes, but will not respond to > >telnet,ftp,http, or console input. > > > >I can (and did several times ;) reliably reproduce this by mailing ~1500 > >messages, with ~150 of them going to non-responsive or non-existant > >servers. > > > >from the log > >830:Jul 14 15:21:50 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2400 > >836:Jul 14 15:31:50 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1600 > >846:Jul 14 15:41:50 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1066 > >853:Jul 14 15:51:50 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 710 > >863:Jul 14 16:01:57 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 473 > >875:Jul 14 16:11:58 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 315 > >883:Jul 14 16:21:58 trex /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 210 > > The above messages can be completely ignored and aren't part of the > problem. They indicate that the system is adjusting the route expiration > time for "clone" routes. > Look via dmesg or in /var/log/messages for a kernel message of the form > "Out of mbuf clusters - increase maxusers", or for older releases of FreeBSD, > "mb_map full". The message will only occur once. If this is happening (likely), > then you need to increase the number of mbuf clusters either by increasing > maxusers or by adding: > > options "NMBCLUSTERS=" > > ...to your kernel config file. Where is some number in the area of 2000 > and not more than 4000 (unless you know what you're doing). > I believe this is covered in the FAQ. The question gets asked about once > a week, so it should be. > > -DG > > David Greenman > Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project > I've just rebuilt+installed the kernel - (with options "NMBCLUSTERS=2000") - I'm seeing the same behavior - sending a significant #(~40 last time) of mail messages in quick succession (1 every 2 seconds) will reliably cause the system to stop responding, with no errors logged. below are the complete /var/log/messages for the last boot- - neither of the above mentioned messages were ever logged (this has happened ~7 times)- the only kernel messages logged between boots were the ones I listed (even those have stopped occuring between boots now)- Jul 15 13:41:02 trex /kernel: npx0 on motherboard Jul 15 13:41:02 trex /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Jul 15 13:41:02 trex /kernel: Probing for devices on the PCI bus: Jul 15 13:41:02 trex /kernel: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 Jul 15 13:41:02 trex /kernel: chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 Jul 15 13:41:02 trex /kernel: WARNING: / was not properly dismounted. Jul 15 13:40:51 trex named[64]: starting. named LOCAL-960513.114936 Mon May 13\ 11:49:36 PDT 1996 root@trex.investools.com:/usr/src/usr.sbin/named Jul 15 13:40:52 trex named[65]: Ready to answer queries. Jul 15 13:40:53 trex lpd[91]: restarted Jul 15 13:41:09 trex login: login on ttyv1 as invest (1 named message(about lame server), 7 login,su messages deleted) Jul 15 13:47:45 trex su: invest to root on /dev/ttyp1 (lost access here - no response to http, etc, had to physically reboot) Jul 15 13:54:32 trex /kernel: FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Jul 14 23:27:20 PDT 1996 Jul 15 13:54:32 trex /kernel: invest@trex.investools.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/TCKERNEL Is there anything else that would be interesting to look at, or do? Any other information I can gather that would shed light on this? TIA -Thor Clark From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 14:18:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA16868 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chaos.structured.net (chaos.structured.net [204.157.7.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16856 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from justin.structured.net (justin.structured.net [204.157.7.189]) by chaos.structured.net (8.7.5/Structured_V8) with SMTP id OAA22508 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607152118.OAA22508@chaos.structured.net> X-Sender: justin@chaos.structured.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Justin Ashworth Subject: Packard Hell monitor definitions Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could somebody do me a favor and send their Packard Bell monitor Vert and Horiz refresh rates to me? Or...better yet...could you send the entire /etc/XF86Config file? Thanks! - Justin Ashworth, Intern -- Structured Network Systems --- justin@structured.net ---- http://www.structured.net From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 14:51:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA19650 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA19621; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA06648; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:51:10 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA10296; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:51:04 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id XAA18074; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:50:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607152150.XAA18074@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: 2.1.5 installation does not work. To: jamah@cs.rpi.edu (Jon Mah) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:50:06 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, jamah@cs.rpi.edu, questions@FreeBSD.org, bugs@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607151759.NAA23592@eggbeater.cs.rpi.edu> from Jon Mah at "Jul 15, 96 01:59:39 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jon Mah wrote: > This is an idea I was hypothesizing about, since > I know that the 2.0/2.1 FTP installs have worked fine for me, > would it be possible to use a boot disk from 2.0 (or 2.1) and > change the release to be retrieved to "2.1.5-RELEASE". Alas, this won't work. 2.0.5 and 2.1 used to have this mysterious ``root floppy'' which has been eliminated now. The crucial part is the the `inf' files used to live on just that floppy, but are now scattered through the dist directories. (They contain the information about the number of files to load, size, and checksum.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 14:52:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA19740 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA19640; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA06653; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:51:14 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA10300; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:51:13 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id XAA18054; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:48:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607152148.XAA18054@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: 2.1.5 installation does not work. To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:48:13 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: jamah@cs.rpi.edu Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <931.837452781@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Jul 15, 96 10:46:21 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Sigh.. Yes, it looks like we managed to break support for this card > at the last moment for some people (see the KNOWNBUG.TXT file at the > root of the 2.1.5 release directory). I'm not sure what to suggest > except to say that if you can locate a spare ethernet card just for > installation, you can apply the patch in KNOWNBUG.TXT and get your > card working again post-installation. If you've got to the point where the emergency holographic shell is already running: Alt-F4 (go to the console with the shell) ifconfig ep0 down ifconfig ep0 up ...has been reported to unwedge the card. (Sigh. Oh well, i'm feeling guilty...) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 14:52:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA19802 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arl-img-5.compuserve.com ([149.174.217.135]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA19790 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by arl-img-5.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id RAA21367; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:51:46 -0400 Date: 15 Jul 96 17:49:09 EDT From: Mark Ovens <100104.10@CompuServe.COM> To: questions Subject: Building a Linux compatible kernel - How ? Message-ID: <960715214909_100104.10_EHQ37-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying, without success, to build a FreeBSD kernel with Linux compatibility. I have installed the package linux_lib-1.0 which seems to come with only the following brief instructions :- These libraries are part of the linux compatibility options for FreeBSD. To get linux compat working you will need 1) A linux binary such as doom, Wingz, or maple 2) a kernel with ``options LINUX_COMPAT'' in the config file 3) these libraries 4) the linux compat lkm (ie run /usr/bin/linux) then run the linux binary. I added the "LINUX_COMPAT" option to the config file, I also tried "COMPAT_LINUX" as other options which include "COMPAT" are of the format "COMPAT_xxxxx", but in both cases the Makefile produced contained no reference to "linux", except for the options line. I would expect the build to include some or all of the files in /usr/src/sys/i386/linux. Also, the instruction 4), " the linux compat lkm (ie run /usr/bin/linux)" is puzzling me. There is no file called "linux" in /usr/bin, or anywhere else on my system (there is an executable "linux_mod" but that just produces the error "Exec format error. Wrong Architecture" which all Linux programs seem to give. I am at a loss as to how to make it all work. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Mark Ovens (100104.10@compuserve.com) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 15:02:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA20400 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [199.84.158.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA20391 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01773; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:02:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:02:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: John Brann cc: freeq Subject: Re: ppp on 2.2-960612-SNAP In-Reply-To: <199607152040.QAA07699@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, John Brann wrote: > I am using iijppp with dial-on-demand. The connection comes up up to > a dozen times a day. Once every couple of days ppp gets itself into a > state where this appears in the log file: > > 07-15 16:33:09 [7084] ** 1 Too many ECHO packets are lost. ** Please make sure you have: disable lqr deny lqr in your /etc/ppp/ppp.conf's default section. This feature is BADLY broken. Regards, Andrew Webster - andrew@pubnix.net - http://www.pubnix.net PubNIX Montreal - Connected to the world - Branche au monde 514-990-5911 - P.O. Box 147, Cote St-Luc, Quebec, H4V 2Y3 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 15:08:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA20992 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20985 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA07962; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607152211.SAA07962@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: ppp on 2.2-960612-SNAP To: andrew@pubnix.net Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: from Andrew Webster at "Jul 15, 96 06:02:06 pm" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Andrew Webster wrote... > On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, John Brann wrote: > [... SNIP ...] > > Please make sure you have: > > disable lqr > deny lqr > > in your /etc/ppp/ppp.conf's default section. This feature is BADLY > broken. > [... SNIP ...] Thanks Andrew, I've added it... watch this space... John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 15:09:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21037 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from axe.intercall.com (root@axe.intercall.com [206.98.168.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21029 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proteus.home (ts2-108.intercall.com [207.77.25.108]) by axe.intercall.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA29352 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31EA8B22.41C67EA6@intercall.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:17:06 -0400 From: tim palmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Moving kernel location Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How would one change the pointer to the kernel location? To make a silly story short, if I want to boot FreeBSD from my HDD running from a AHA2940W without having to unplug my external SCSI Zip drive (running off a ISA 1542), I need to tell all concerned parties to boot from sd1 instead of sd0. (I need the two SCSI cards so I can have my cake (fast HDD) and eat it too (external SCSI I connector). I have changed "fstab" entries and rebuilt the kernel with config line pointing to "sd2". Beyond that, I'm lost. At the moment, I'm not concerned with mounting anything on the Zip drive - this is just a convience question. Thanks to all concerned Tim Palmer System details Cyrix P150+ on Triton II mb, 32M RAM, Adaptec 2940W running Seagate ST32550 2.3G HDD, Adaptec 1542cf running CDROM and (zip drive). FreeBSD 2.1 - Walnut Creek CDROM Multiple OS's, using V Communications "System Commander" as boot loader From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 15:19:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21765 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atropos.c2.org (atropos.c2.org [140.174.185.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21757; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sameer@localhost) by atropos.c2.org (8.7.4/CSUA) id PAA17586; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607152217.PAA17586@atropos.c2.org> Subject: Re: Netscape Commerce Servers To: jim@starshine.org (Jim Dennis) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Cc: archive@cps201.cps.cmich.edu, terry@lambert.org, jnoetzel@intermind.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607152054.NAA02840@starshine> from "Jim Dennis" at Jul 15, 96 01:54:49 pm From: sameer X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Well actually Netscape is dropping support for all non-threaded OS's for their > > servers.. > Which is why you should use Stronghold. =) Stronghold runs on 16 platforms, compared with the four platforms Netscape's server supports. Stronghold is based on Apache and ships with FreeBSD 2.1.5. -- Sameer Parekh Voice: 510-986-8770 Community ConneXion, Inc. FAX: 510-986-8777 The Internet Privacy Provider http://www.c2.net/ sameer@c2.net From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 15:21:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22059 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from axe.intercall.com (root@axe.intercall.com [206.98.168.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22028 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proteus.home (ts2-108.intercall.com [207.77.25.108]) by axe.intercall.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA29958; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:20:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31EA8DCB.2781E494@intercall.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:28:27 -0400 From: tim palmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidg@root.com CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3c590... References: <199607140157.SAA02544@root.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hmm, so if you're the "Principal Architect", I should take your word over the people at Walnut Creek regarding 3c590 support in 2.1.5, yes? Ahh well, c'est la guerre!  David Greenman wrote: > > >On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Tim Palmer wrote: > > > >> I'm trying to get a 3c590 ethernet board to talk to my FreeBSD > >> 2.1 (Walnut Creek CD-ROM) and having no luck. I've downloaded if_vx.c > >> and if_vxreg.h from -current and referenced if_vc in my files.i386, but > >> the kernel compile fails with 3 messages complaining about if_vx.c > >> referencing an unknown "if_softc". So, my real question is: as a non C > >> speaking person, should I not worry about making this 3c590 work just > >> yet? Or did I just miss a simple step in installing the driver? > > > >Trying to back-port it to 2.1-R wouldn't be such a great idea. Just hang > >on for the 2.1.5-RELEASE; it includes the 3c590 support, I believe. > > Err, actually, no, it doesn't. We should probably have brought it in > before the code freeze. :-( > > -DG > > David Greenman > Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 15:24:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22351 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itchy.serv.net (itchy.serv.net [199.201.191.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22282 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zeno@localhost) by itchy.serv.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA28589 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:24:01 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:24:01 -0700 From: "Sean T. Lamont" Message-Id: <199607152224.PAA28589@itchy.serv.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Can somebody explain this one to me? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --- bouvier# touch /test /: create/symlink failed, no inodes free touch: /test: No space left on device bouvier# df -i Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/sd0a 32254 12782 16890 43% 829 3009 22% / /dev/sd0s1e 75366 5992 63344 9% 123 10819 1% /var /dev/sd0s1f 734046 331366 343956 49% 19602 68716 22% /usr /dev/sd1c 1034927 596149 355983 63% 7676 245762 3% /usr/homeroot/logs procfs 4 4 0 100% 55 989 5% /proc ok...let's try and free up an inode. I don't use ppp, so let's get rid of /etc/ppp bouvier# rm -rf /etc/ppp (theoretically this should have freed 6 or 7 inodes, right?) bouvier# touch /test /: create/symlink failed, no inodes free touch: /test: No space left on device this is FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE (BOUVIER) #0: Fri May 17 00:53:48 PDT 1996 ...Any insight would be appreciated . and rebooting the system -did not- fix the problem. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 16:03:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA26590 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26579 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stuyts by ns.NL.net via EUnet id AA27283 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:53:37 +0200 Received: by daneel.stuyts.nl (NX5.67f2/daneel940629) id AA15375; Tue, 16 Jul 96 00:48:05 +0200 Message-Id: <9607152248.AA15375@daneel.stuyts.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ben Stuyts Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 00:48:02 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.1.5R: UUCP errors, no flow control? Reply-To: ben@stuyts.nl Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, First of all, I am new to FreeBSD, but am very impressed with what I've seen so far. I have a little problem though: I am setting up a system with 2.1.5R, and I can't get UUCP to work properly. There is an external modem (ZyXEL 1496E+) on cuaa1, and I am trying to connect with another system through UUCP. Outgoing files go just fine, but incoming files give lots of NAK's, checksum errors, etc. I do not see any RTS/CTS flow control (I have one of those little RS232 tester on the rs232 port), so I suspect it must be related to that. The motherboard is a Chaintech 5IFM with a P100 and 32 MB ram. It has what looks like a UMC i/o chip, which is correctly recognized as having a pair of 16550A's. There are no memory or IRQ conflicts with other cards. I am running 2.1R patched up to 2.1.5R just yesterday. I have played around with stty, following /etc/rc.serial, but to no avail. stty -a -f /dev/cuaa1 says that crtscts is enabled anyway, even during the uucp session. I have searched the mailing list archives, and found that more people have this problem. None of the suggestions helped me though. I tried to patch serial.c from the uucp sources to enable hardware flow control, but this didn't help. I changed the i-protocol parameters (1 window, 512 bytes...) which helped a bit but not much. I tried different baud rates, etc. The archives also suggested that flow control wasn't in 2.1R anyway. Tell me that isn't true... Others suggested that the UMC chip is crap. It looks like a tty driver and/or hardware problem, right? What else can I try? Thanks, Ben From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 16:05:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA26920 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crash.cts.com (root@crash.cts.com [192.188.72.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26906 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:05:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by crash.cts.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0ufwhy-00029qC; Mon, 15 Jul 96 16:05 PDT Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:05:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Sterrett To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Trident GUI 9440 SVGA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Everybody, Does anyone know the status of SVGA support in 2.1.5 for the Trident GUI 9440 SVGA. This may be an XFree86 question butsome of you may know. Thanks in Advance, Tony From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 16:14:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27897 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.PII.COM (pii.com [192.77.209.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27853 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PII.COM by PII.COM (4.1/SMI-4.4) id AA15492; Mon, 15 Jul 96 16:28:17 PDT Received: by smtp with Microsoft Mail id <31EAD01D@smtp>; Mon, 15 Jul 96 16:11:25 PDT From: Robert Clark To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: Moving kernel location Date: Mon, 15 Jul 96 16:10:00 PDT Message-Id: <31EAD01D@smtp> Encoding: 36 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tim, I've seen Wide to Narrow connector adaptors. Could'nt you use one of those instead? [RC] (robert.clark@pii.com) ---------- From: owner-freebsd-questions To: freebsd-questions Subject: Moving kernel location Date: Monday, July 15, 1996 2:17PM How would one change the pointer to the kernel location? To make a silly story short, if I want to boot FreeBSD from my HDD running from a AHA2940W without having to unplug my external SCSI Zip drive (running off a ISA 1542), I need to tell all concerned parties to boot from sd1 instead of sd0. (I need the two SCSI cards so I can have my cake (fast HDD) and eat it too (external SCSI I connector). I have changed "fstab" entries and rebuilt the kernel with config line pointing to "sd2". Beyond that, I'm lost. At the moment, I'm not concerned with mounting anything on the Zip drive - this is just a convience question. Thanks to all concerned Tim Palmer System details Cyrix P150+ on Triton II mb, 32M RAM, Adaptec 2940W running Seagate ST32550 2.3G HDD, Adaptec 1542cf running CDROM and (zip drive). FreeBSD 2.1 - Walnut Creek CDROM Multiple OS's, using V Communications "System Commander" as boot loader From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 17:09:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02020 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02013 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id bl05482; 15 Jul 96 23:14 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa23117; 13 Jul 96 1:25 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01830; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:57:37 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:57:37 GMT Message-Id: <199607122157.VAA01830@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: grl@marconi.ih.lucent.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9607121609.AA15446@toolman.ih.lucent.com> (grl@marconi.ih.lucent.com) Subject: Re: Cannot mount CDROM Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> grl@marconi.ih.lucent.com writes: > > FreeBSD: > - Can I install from CDROM? > I'm tring to install FreeBSD 2.1 (from CD ROM) to an > HP Vectra with an IDE drive (Western Digital 1.6G). > I picked up the 2.2-960612-SNAP Boot floppy from the FTP > site and noticed that it does recognize my CDROM on boot. > The Hard Drive and CDROM are on separate controllers. > I never see the CDROM light come on (FreeBSD is in the drive) > and the boot says "media unknown." > Install allows me to select CDROM media without complaints but > when it tries to access it, the mount fails: > > Error mounting /dev/wcd0c on /cdrom - Input/Output error (5) Is this with the atapi.flp image? Perhaps you may have better luck with the one from 2.1.5, when that is available. (Unfortunately IDE CDROM support hasn't come as far or as fast as we'd have liked, and it's really not much more than alpha code. Sorry). > (I was able to install the basic package by coping to DOS but still > could not install any packages. Thought maybe the symbolic links > didn't copy to DOS - it read the Package Index bvt could not > access the packages). This is due to DOS's stupid filesystem limitations. If you rename them as "the first eight letters, then a dot, then tgz", this should work (eg gronkulator-3.6beta.tar.gz goes to gronkula.tgz). > - Matrox and FreeBSD? > I have a Matrox Millenium video card and understand it is not > supported by FreeBSD. Just to clarify, it is X86Free that does not support it, not FreeBSD. As far as I'm aware, this card should work in console mode. > Also heard that I can use X-Inside with > FreeBSD and this card to run X-applications. Is this correct? Yes (this is a commercial product that costs about $100, BTW). > I'll be using it to display X-applications on the PC at home > from the UNIX-Sun systems at work (via 28.8 modem/PPP for now). Should be no problem - there's a good section in the Handbook on setting up PPP. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 17:46:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA05842 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA05830 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA09760; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:39:17 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607160039.RAA09760@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Support for NTFS? To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:39:17 -0700 (MST) Cc: novakow@ee.ualberta.ca, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jul 13, 96 00:54:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I was wondering if there is support for Windows NT filesystem? If not, > > is there any work being done on it? Thank you.. > > Nope, probably on both counts. Some experimental work on NTFS has taken place. The Linux code was ported, but it's only read-only (mostly because the Linux FS layering does not lend itself to clean transaction logging). Nothing has been released, and nothing is currently planned to be released. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 18:01:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA07484 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (root@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA07468 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA00698; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:00:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:00:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: Tony Sterrett cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trident GUI 9440 SVGA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Tony Sterrett wrote: > Hi Everybody, > > Does anyone know the status of SVGA support in 2.1.5 for > the Trident GUI 9440 SVGA. > > This may be an XFree86 question butsome of you may know. > Thanks in Advance, > Tony > I am running AcceleratedX from Xinside and it does support this card. I am using one right now :) Mike ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 18:05:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA07926 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from link.net.mt (link.link.net.mt [194.73.234.190]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA07867 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from holqa102.link.net.mt (holqa105.link.net.mt [194.73.234.135]) by link.net.mt (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id DAA25470 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:08:44 +0200 (MET) Message-ID: <31EAEA7D.6424@link.net.mt> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:03:57 +0200 From: Alex Chircop X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Copyright ? X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm interested in creating a user application using the FreeBSD kernel as the OS ... what copyright laws/notices etc... do I have to display/pay etc ... I intend to release the software as binary only in a floppy release containing a modified kernel and the application, so it will be able to run without any install procedure. I don't intend charging any money for personal/evaluation use, but I might specify a small fee for commercial entities. Is this acceptable and or possible ? Regards, Alex Chircop alex@link.net.mt (home) alex.j.chircop@magnet.mt (work) *********************************************************** ** Check out http://www.link.net.mt/~alex (home) ** ** Check out http://www.magnet.mt (work) ** *********************************************************** PS. FreeBSD is a most brilliant OS !!! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 18:40:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA11555 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from optim.ism.net ([205.199.12.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA11550; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from optim.ism.net (jdc@optim.ism.net [205.199.12.2]) by optim.ism.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA03803; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:56:07 -0600 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:56:07 -0600 (MDT) From: John-David Childs To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pwd_mkdb bug in 2.1.5? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got a 2.1.-RELEASE system and a newly installed 2.1.5 system. I ftp'd a copy of the master.passwd file from -RELEASE to 2.1.5 and ran pwd_mkdb -p (I do this regularly between BSDi 2.01 and the -RELEASE machine). Fortunately, I did a 'passwd root' before logging out, because NONE of the other userid's work (bad passwords). Anyone else have the same problem or should I do another 'make world'??? -- John-David Childs www.marsweb.com/www.ism.net System Administrator Internet Services Montana (406)721-6277 & Network Engineer M@RSWeb - Montana's PREMIER Web Site "I used up all my sick days...so I'm calling in dead" From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 18:42:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA11732 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com (chain.iafrica.com [196.31.1.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA11713 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chain.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA00774 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:41:19 +0200 (SAT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:41:18 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: static version of wp Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I've searched everywhere for the statically linked version of the wp demo everyone keeps raving about. Where can I get hold of it ? anyone got the tarball for me ? Regards, Khetan Gajjar. --- http://www.chain.iafrica.com/~khetan/ UUNet-Internet Africa Operations - 0800-030-002 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 18:45:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA12132 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA12127 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA08522; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:44:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Babler To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: syslog and ntpdate Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm cleaning up my act, security-wise, here. Once upon a time, I logged in to the console as root and left the session logged in as a 'console log'. This is a secure office, so that was reasonably safe... but bad form, of course. I then then cleaned up my act and changed syslog.conf so that the items of interest get logged directly to the console and all is well. Or almost. Oddly, I can no longer get info reports from ntpdate (run with cron every 2 hours), though I used to. My syslog.conf is now: ---- /etc/syslog.conf *.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit /dev/console *.notice;kern.debug;lpr,auth.info;mail.crit /var/log/messages mail.info /var/log/maillog lpr.info /var/log/lpd-errs cron.* /var/cron/log *.err root *.notice;auth.debug root *.alert root *.emerg * *.notice;*.alert;auth.debug;*.alert /dev/console ---- so I -assumed- that the console should get all the log messages that root used to (except for .err messages)... but the time adjustments don't show. I also tried adding: !ntpdate.* /dev/console Which seemed to correspond to the program usage in syslog.conf, but it made no difference. What did I do wrong? Puzzled... -Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 18:47:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA12297 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA12291 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id cb27285; 16 Jul 96 2:40 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa06766; 14 Jul 96 22:37 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA04016; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:51:52 GMT Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:51:52 GMT Message-Id: <199607141851.SAA04016@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: thankhuu@cco.caltech.edu CC: hoek@freenet.hamilton.on.ca, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Thanh Khuu on Sat, 13 Jul 1996 21:56:02 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: installation update Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Thanh Khuu writes: > > So it WAS my ATI Mach64 that was causing the blanking of the screen. So > I disabled si0-3 and it installed. But as James Raynard told me, there > is a bug in the 2.1 boot installation and it didn't boot correctly. So I > manually installed boot.bin and that worked too. However, when I chose > FreeBSD it gave me a > panic: cannot mount root > or something to that extent. What now? I don't seem to be having much success with boot blocks at the moment. :-( A simple way round this is to use the install floppy to boot from, then type in wd(1,a)/kernel at the Boot: prompt. (The first letter is 'w' if you have 2 IDE disks, 's' if you have 2 SCSI disks and 'h' if you have one of each). > By the way, when I boot it gives me the same boot screen as when i did > from the floppy to install it and I have to use the -c option again to > disable everything again. Do I have to do that everytime I boot? I > certainly hope not. The kernel should save the changes after you boot with -c, so you should only need to do it once. Alternatively, read the instructions in the Handbook on how to make a customised kernel which has only what you need in it. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 18:55:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA12942 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA12933 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id aw29515; 16 Jul 96 2:53 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ab03445; 14 Jul 96 0:46 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA02339; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:06:26 GMT Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:06:26 GMT Message-Id: <199607131906.TAA02339@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: csmith@northcoast.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607130859.BAA28353@redwood.northcoast.com> (csmith@northcoast.com) Subject: Re: New to FreeBSD. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> csmith@northcoast.com writes: > > I just made the decission to go with FreeBSD over Linux. > I was able to get version 2.0.5, 2 CD-rom set. Ok, I have made the boot > disk, and when I tell it to use the Media of CDROM, it says that the > device is not to be found. I just installed a new CD-rom drive, and it > is using an Interface card, since it doesn't seem to like going through > an EIDE card, as a slave or primary drive.. Ok, is there away around > this, I have looked on other sites, and have seen a driver for the APADI > (sp) IDE driver support. Will this work, not ready to try it yet. It may well do, but I would recommend waiting for 2.1.5 (due out next week). The support for IDE CDROMs will be considerably better then in 2.0.5 (if indeed 2.0.5 even supported IDE CDROMs - I can't remember offhand), although unfortunately still only in alpha. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 18:57:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA13353 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from burdell.cc.gatech.edu (burdell.cc.gatech.edu [130.207.3.207]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA13340 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oscar.cc.gatech.edu (cau@oscar.cc.gatech.edu [130.207.107.12]) by burdell.cc.gatech.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA20720; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:57:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cau@localhost) by oscar.cc.gatech.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9) id VAA26995; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:56:59 -0400 (EDT) From: cau@cc.gatech.edu (Carlos Ugarte) Message-Id: <199607160156.VAA26995@oscar.cc.gatech.edu> Subject: Re: Unpopular SCSI card To: paul@nation-net.com (Paul Walsh) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31EA72F1.721@nation-net.com> from "Paul Walsh" at Jul 15, 96 05:33:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > One last check! > > Did anyone ever get the Future Domain 1610 to work? This sounds like one of the cards based on the TMC-800 (or related) series of chipsets (and would not be supported under the seagate driver). I'm working on a driver for these, but it's going very slowly. Adaptec now owns Future Domain, and they don't have any technical information that they can give/sell me. I'm using the Linux driver as a base, but no telling if it'll work. Carlos -- Carlos A. Ugarte cau@cc.gatech.edu Author of PageMage, a virtual desktop util for OS/2 http://www.cc.gatech.edu/people/home/cau/ If you understand what you're doing, you are not learning anything From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 19:19:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA16739 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns1.noc.best.net (root@dns1.noc.best.net [206.86.8.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA16727 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA04795 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:19:43 -0700 Received: from free.emmert.com (emmert.vip.best.com [204.156.142.218]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA24825 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:19:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:19:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Emmert Reply-To: Steve Emmert To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Comm port trouble in 2.1.5 install Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Made a boot floppy of 2.1.5 -RELEASE to show my buddy how cool FreeBSD is! When I selected FTP install and COM 2 (/dev/cuaa1) then went to iij-ppp the modem would not respond to "at". I then did a "show modem" and found the device set to COM 1 (/dev/cuaa0). No amount of hacking with the option selections or "set device" in iij-ppp would work to get the modem on-line even when "show modem" displayed /dev/cuaa1. I took the disk back home and tried it on my system with the same results. I even FTP'ed a new boot.flp but nothing seems to work. My old 2.1 boot floppy works but a 2.2 -SNAP boot floppy fails too. Any ideas?? --Steve Steve Emmert steve@emmert.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unix is the only place where you can fork freely without permission, and then kill your children. -Jesus Munroy From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 19:35:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA19202 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA19186 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net (cola109.scsn.net [206.25.247.109]) by rosie.scsn.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-13529) with ESMTP id AAA176; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 22:37:21 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA00541; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 22:34:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <199607160234.WAA00541@rhiannon.scsn.net> Subject: Re: Trident GUI 9440 SVGA To: flaq@synwork.com (Mike K.) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 22:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Mike K." at "Jul 15, 96 08:00:44 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi Everybody, > > Does anyone know the status of SVGA support in 2.1.5 for > the Trident GUI 9440 SVGA. > > This may be an XFree86 question butsome of you may know. > Thanks in Advance, > Tony I believe I read in the XFree86 FAQ that the Trident 9440 boards are supported in their current beta server, but not in the 3.1.2 release... From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 19:53:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA20859 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riverside.mr.net (root@Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20847 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galileo.mr.net by riverside.mr.net (8.7.5/SMI-4.1.R931202) id VAA28116; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:53:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from black@localhost) by galileo.mr.net (8.7.2/8.7.2) id VAA14587 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:53:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Ben Black Message-Id: <199607160253.VAA14587@galileo.mr.net> Subject: can't delete rcp To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:53:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ok, i'm feeling really stupid for this one... slowburn: {1} whoami root slowburn: {2} rm rcp override r-sr-xr-x root/bin schg for rcp? y rm: rcp: Operation not permitted slowburn: {3} chmod 0755 rcp chmod: rcp: Operation not permitted slowburn: {4} mv rcp rcp.bak mv: rename rcp to rcp.bak: Operation not permitted i tried unlinking the thing, cat /dev/null onto it...what simple thing am i missing? Ben black@mr.net From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 20:01:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA21766 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dub-img-1.compuserve.com (dub-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.206.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA21724 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dub-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id WAA19020; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 22:58:23 -0400 Date: 15 Jul 96 22:56:17 EDT From: "John F. Diggan" <74361.2505@CompuServe.COM> To: FreeBSD Subject: Dial-In Message-ID: <960716025616_74361.2505_HHG79-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have set up my system for dial in service (not for INTERNET access) using both FAQ and Handbook. When I dial in I receive the login and password prompt. After entering my password there is no further information printed on my dial in computer screen. There is a process running with login -p in response to ps -ax. I am using a Packard Bell DOS system to dial into a PPI PFM9600 FXMT modem. I would appreciate any assistance provided. my EMAIL is 74361.2505@compuserve.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 20:16:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA22932 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA22924 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA04668; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607160316.UAA04668@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: tim palmer cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3c590... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:28:27 EDT." <31EA8DCB.2781E494@intercall.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:16:32 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >hmm, so if you're the "Principal Architect", I should take your word over the > people at Walnut Creek regarding 3c590 support in 2.1.5, yes? Ahh well, >c'est la guerre!  I'm also one of the two release engineers for 2.1.5, so yes, absolutely. After all, WC just sells what we give them - they aren't in any position to speak authoritatively about FreeBSD. The if_vx driver simply wasn't ported to 2.1.x. It is in the CVS repository for "-current", and you can find it on the CDROM this way. ...but it isn't supported under 2.1.5 (and won't compile): you'll have to port the driver yourself. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 20:27:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA23699 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA23686 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA25014; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:27:00 GMT Message-Id: <199607160327.DAA25014@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA097147648; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:27:28 -0600 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:27:28 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: black@MR.Net Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607160253.VAA14587@galileo.mr.net> (message from Ben Black on Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:53:26 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: can't delete rcp Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Black writes: Ben> i tried unlinking the thing, cat /dev/null onto it...what Ben> simple thing am i missing? chflags noschg rcp --k From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 20:31:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA24338 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA24302 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA23994; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:30:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Ben Black cc: questions@FreeBSD.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: can't delete rcp In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:53:26 CDT." <199607160253.VAA14587@galileo.mr.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:30:54 -0400 Message-ID: <23990.837487854@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ben Black wrote in message ID <199607160253.VAA14587@galileo.mr.net>: > override r-sr-xr-x root/bin schg for rcp? y ^^^ chflags noschg rcp see man chflags(1) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 20:35:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA24833 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA24811 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA02142 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:40:25 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199607152040.UAA02142@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: Intel Express Ethernet 100B To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:40:24 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greeting, Does FreeBSD 2.1 support Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B and 100 (smart) cards ? How about the Pro/10 model ? Thanks. Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 21:04:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA28238 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.xtalwind.net (h-advice.x31.infi.net [206.27.115.63]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28221; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.xtalwind.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA00640; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:03:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:03:22 -0400 (EDT) From: jack X-Sender: jacko@localhost To: John-David Childs cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb bug in 2.1.5? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, John-David Childs wrote: > I've got a 2.1.-RELEASE system and a newly installed 2.1.5 system. > I ftp'd a copy of the master.passwd file from -RELEASE to 2.1.5 and ran > pwd_mkdb -p (I do this regularly between BSDi 2.01 and the -RELEASE > machine). > > Fortunately, I did a 'passwd root' before logging out, because NONE of the > other userid's work (bad passwords). Anyone else have the same problem or > should I do another 'make world'??? > -- Did you remember to install (or not) DES support to match your 2.1-R setup? > > John-David Childs www.marsweb.com/www.ism.net > System Administrator Internet Services Montana (406)721-6277 > & Network Engineer M@RSWeb - Montana's PREMIER Web Site > "I used up all my sick days...so I'm calling in dead" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ jacko@xtalwind.net Finger jacko@onyx.xtalwind.net for my PGP key Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 21:06:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA28560 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28554 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net (cola109.scsn.net [206.25.247.109]) by rosie.scsn.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-13529) with ESMTP id AAA190; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:07:24 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id AAA11865; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:04:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <199607160404.AAA11865@rhiannon.scsn.net> Subject: Re: can't delete rcp To: black@MR.Net (Ben Black) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:04:56 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607160253.VAA14587@galileo.mr.net> from Ben Black at "Jul 15, 96 09:53:26 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > ok, i'm feeling really stupid for this one... > > slowburn: {1} whoami > root > slowburn: {2} rm rcp > override r-sr-xr-x root/bin schg for rcp? y > rm: rcp: Operation not permitted > slowburn: {3} chmod 0755 rcp > chmod: rcp: Operation not permitted > slowburn: {4} mv rcp rcp.bak > mv: rename rcp to rcp.bak: Operation not permitted > > > i tried unlinking the thing, cat /dev/null onto it...what simple thing am i missing? Try this: slowburn: chflags noschg rcp ; rm rcp Naturally, you'll have to be root to do this. It would probably be a good idea to 'man chflags', too... From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 21:07:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA28659 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA28654 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA17611; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:07:32 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:07:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: Ben Black cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: can't delete rcp In-Reply-To: <199607160253.VAA14587@galileo.mr.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Ben Black wrote: > ok, i'm feeling really stupid for this one... > > slowburn: {1} whoami > root > slowburn: {2} rm rcp > override r-sr-xr-x root/bin schg for rcp? y > rm: rcp: Operation not permitted > slowburn: {3} chmod 0755 rcp > chmod: rcp: Operation not permitted > slowburn: {4} mv rcp rcp.bak > mv: rename rcp to rcp.bak: Operation not permitted > > > i tried unlinking the thing, cat /dev/null onto it...what simple thing am i missing? Just do the following: chflags noschg /bin/rcp Vince From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 21:13:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA29306 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29301 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA02457; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:13:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Joel Yancey cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.1.5R installation troubles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Joel Yancey wrote: > ok, i boot up with the boot.flp, run the upgrade (or novice installion, > tried them both) and it runs great, until the FTP, then it ALWAYS stops > at 1225100, and then if you wait a VERY long time, like an hour, it'll > possible get more, or it'll timeout and hang up. most of the time it > times out, and asks me if i want to try to get more, and i answer yes, it > gets the doc, although it pauses about every meg or so, and then it goes > on. Hm. ftp.freebsd.org is pretty loaded right now, it may be hanging on a new 'get' command. Or your link may be timing out at just that point. Is this in the bindist? Take a look at the debug screen (ALT-F2) and look for any errors. > the first part of my install my com2 wouldnt work, and com1 i cant use > becuase for some reason i always loose my route to my ISP. but i got that > working fine as of now, but a friend of mine also had to swtch com ports > from 1 to 2 instead of like me 2 to 1, because it would talk to the > modem, on neither of our computers. This is due to a misconfiguration of the sio ports or your BIOS. FreeBSD uses the standard settings for the sio ports and if they don't probe then your BIOS was changed. Nothing can conflict with the sio devices. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 21:17:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA29451 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29445 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA02464; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:15:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: ben@stuyts.nl cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5R: UUCP errors, no flow control? In-Reply-To: <9607152248.AA15375@daneel.stuyts.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Ben Stuyts wrote: > First of all, I am new to FreeBSD, but am very impressed with what I've seen > so far. I have a little problem though: I am setting up a system with 2.1.5R, > and I can't get UUCP to work properly. > > There is an external modem (ZyXEL 1496E+) on cuaa1, and I am trying to > connect with another system through UUCP. Outgoing files go just fine, but > incoming files give lots of NAK's, checksum errors, etc. I do not see any > RTS/CTS flow control (I have one of those little RS232 tester on the rs232 > port), so I suspect it must be related to that. I would suspect your modem isn't set to assert hardware flow control then. Adjust your modem as necessary and see if that helps. Or your cable is incomplete; make sure to get a complete serial cable that supports hardware flow control. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 21:19:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA29590 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29584 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA02468; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:19:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Mark Ovens <100104.10@CompuServe.COM> cc: questions Subject: Re: Building a Linux compatible kernel - How ? In-Reply-To: <960715214909_100104.10_EHQ37-1@CompuServe.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 15 Jul 1996, Mark Ovens wrote: > I am trying, without success, to build a FreeBSD kernel with Linux > compatibility. What version? (I think it makes a difference with 2.1.5 now) > I have installed the package linux_lib-1.0 which seems to come with only > the following brief instructions :- > > These libraries are part of the linux compatibility options > for FreeBSD. To get linux compat working you will need > > 1) A linux binary such as doom, Wingz, or maple > > 2) a kernel with ``options LINUX_COMPAT'' in the config file > > 3) these libraries > > 4) the linux compat lkm (ie run /usr/bin/linux) > > then run the linux binary. > > I added the "LINUX_COMPAT" option to the config file, I also tried > "COMPAT_LINUX" as other options which include "COMPAT" are of the format > "COMPAT_xxxxx", but in both cases the Makefile produced contained no reference > to "linux", except for the options line. add LINUX_COMPAT and COMPAT_LINUX. Then rebuild the lkm from the sources (in the 'lkm' distribution). Then load the lkm on startup. That should whack it into shape. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 21:23:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA29972 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29963 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA02477; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:23:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Steve Emmert cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Comm port trouble in 2.1.5 install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Steve Emmert wrote: > When I selected FTP install and COM 2 (/dev/cuaa1) then went to iij-ppp > the modem would not respond to "at". I then did a "show modem" and found > the device set to COM 1 (/dev/cuaa0). No amount of hacking with the option > selections or "set device" in iij-ppp would work to get the modem on-line > even when "show modem" displayed /dev/cuaa1. I took the disk back home and > tried it on my system with the same results. I even FTP'ed a new boot.flp > but nothing seems to work. My old 2.1 boot floppy works but a 2.2 -SNAP > boot floppy fails too. > > Any ideas?? Make sure sio0 is being probed. I just changed that option on my 2.1.5 installed machine, no problems. Did you check baudrate and data bits also? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 21:27:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA00383 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00377 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA02484; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:27:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: francis yeung cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel Express Ethernet 100B In-Reply-To: <199607152040.UAA02142@fyeung5.netific.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, francis yeung wrote: > Greeting, > > > Does FreeBSD 2.1 support Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B and 100 (smart) > cards ? How about the Pro/10 model ? 100B? yes. Non-b? no. Pro/10? No. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 21:28:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA00596 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.harborcom.net (root@ns2.harborcom.net [206.158.4.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00585 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from swoosh.dunn.org (swoosh.dunn.org [206.158.7.243]) by ns2.harborcom.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA21958 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607160428.AAA21958@ns2.harborcom.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Bradley Dunn" Organization: Harbor Communications To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:22:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: PC Card boot floppy? Reply-to: dunn@harborcom.net Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.40) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! Is there a way for me to roll a boot floppy that has support for my Megahertz Ethernet card so I can install via FTP to my laptop? Bradley Dunn Harbor Communications From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 21:29:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA00729 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00720 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA02488; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:29:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: tim palmer cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving kernel location In-Reply-To: <31EA8B22.41C67EA6@intercall.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, tim palmer wrote: > How would one change the pointer to the kernel location? To make a > silly story short, if I want to boot FreeBSD from my HDD running from a > AHA2940W without having to unplug my external SCSI Zip drive (running > off a ISA 1542), I need to tell all concerned parties to boot from sd1 > instead of sd0. (I need the two SCSI cards so I can have my cake (fast > HDD) and eat it too (external SCSI I connector). Look in LINT for information on wiring down SCSI devices. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 21:32:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA01200 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01193 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA02495; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:32:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: John Brann cc: freeq Subject: Re: Printing on a Canon BJ10 In-Reply-To: <199607152032.QAA07674@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, John Brann wrote: > I have a Canon BJ10 set up to print from FreeBSD, both through lpd, locally > and through Samba. > > When printing from FreeBSD, in simple text mode, I always lose the last 2 > lines of every page. My printcap entry is: Does the Canon require a formfeed to flush out the print buffer? My HP 500C does, I hit "Load/Eject" and out comes the remaining text and the page. If so, then you need to put in a simple output filter to stick on a formfeed at the end of input. Such a script is in the Handbook. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 21:55:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA03061 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA03052 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA04148 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 22:00:54 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199607152200.WAA04148@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: FreeBSD 2.1.5 Intel EtherExpress instability To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 22:00:53 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings. FreeBSD 2.1.5 Release Notes indicates that the use of the Intel EtherExpress (I assumed that it is a Pro/10) is not recommended due to driver instability. Does this apply to both 2.1.0 and 2.0.5 Releases. Or this only applies to FreeBSD 2.1.5 only. Or Intel EtherExpress (Pro/10) should be used in all FreeBSD releases. Thank you for your help. Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 22:40:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA06613 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 22:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06606 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 22:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA22763; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:40:08 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:40:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607160540.XAA22763@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: dunn@harborcom.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PC Card boot floppy? In-Reply-To: <199607160428.AAA21958@ns2.harborcom.net> References: <199607160428.AAA21958@ns2.harborcom.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi! > > Is there a way for me to roll a boot floppy that has support for my > Megahertz Ethernet card so I can install via FTP to my laptop? Not for 2.1.5 (unless the Nomad have updated their floppy), but there is a boot floppy for 2.1 available on the Nomad home page that might work. http://www.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp/person/hosokawa/freebsd-pcmcia/ Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 22:47:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA07267 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 22:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perseus.ultra.net (perseus.ultra.net [199.232.56.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA07259 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 22:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n1vnd (d16.nbd.ma.ultra.net [146.115.57.16]) by perseus.ultra.net (8.7.4/dae0.6) with SMTP id BAA21010; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 01:47:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960716054922.0075db00@ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: kbranco@ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 01:49:22 -0400 To: Justin Ashworth From: Kenny Subject: Re: Packard Hell monitor definitions Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 02:18 PM 7/15/96 -0700, you wrote: > Could somebody do me a favor and send their Packard Bell monitor Vert and Hi Justin, I have a PB 1412SL monitor. It has 31.5 - 48.4 horizontal and 50 - 90 vertical. Good Luck!!!! /Kenny/ -- Kenny Branco kbranco@ma.ultranet.com N1VND-145.4900 NB Repeater Group http://www.ultranet.com/~kbranco -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzHrJlYAAAEEAMQxXH2eQKDN83CrplvsZLlM9k0bvG1W1fGR3Fk6TfKDdddn Ss05b84n1yR8lnqR0Glp+3Jf1NuhzvjA6zXEZRI9pHZhw4EoEkvugUSOBkM9dRch svga8OoD+ARaTSPj6Vv/9uaUaaPgHoRzi12tRInfQyUBS+v/ZpwXFILYutndAAUR tCZLZW5ueSBCcmFuY28gPGticmFuY29AbWEudWx0cmFuZXQuY29tPg== =kIs3 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 22:50:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA07602 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 22:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strech.cyber-naut.com (strech.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA07590 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 22:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by strech.cyber-naut.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA24313 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:50:16 -0600 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:50:16 -0600 From: Blair Schmittel Message-Id: <199607160550.XAA24313@strech.cyber-naut.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD box talking slowly Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello; I have a FreeBSD 2.1R box with a 3Com card in it. When I ping from it or to it, I get pathetic ping times, such as 549.06. When I ping from another FreeBSD box to any other computer I get ping times of about 0.880. What would cause one of my boxes to ping so slowly? When I telnet from it to another host, it is also very slow. Both FreeBSD boxes are on the same ethernet, one works fine, while the other is horribly slow. I've checked the calbes, etc. they seem to work fine. Thanks, BLair From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 23:08:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA09826 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA09819 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id XAA20364 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:08:17 -0700 Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA27059; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:06:55 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:06:54 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: IP Masquerading.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I know Linux can do it (I have a friend who has it setup, masquerading a Win95 machine through his Linux box to the network via ppp). Can and if so how would this be achieved in FreeBSD? Basically my wife often wishes to get online while I am also connected (usually working). As this causes a dilemma I have ordered a new system for her (Mac, her choice) with basic thinwire ethernet. However, now I get to set it up. I would really REALLY not like to switch to Linux, is there any hope? -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 15 23:59:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA14284 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hornet.netac.co.za (root@hornet.netac.co.za [196.3.237.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14278 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from edmund@localhost) by hornet.netac.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA03195; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:59:17 +0200 (SAT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:59:17 +0200 (SAT) From: Edmund Jackson To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: group changing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hoes do you change a user's group -edmund From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 00:18:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA16008 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15999 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA05079; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607160718.AAA05079@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Blair Schmittel cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD box talking slowly In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:50:16 MDT." <199607160550.XAA24313@strech.cyber-naut.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:18:33 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Hello; > >I have a FreeBSD 2.1R box with a 3Com card in it. When I ping from it or to > it, I get pathetic ping times, such as 549.06. When I ping from another > FreeBSD box to any other computer I get ping times of about 0.880. > >What would cause one of my boxes to ping so slowly? When I telnet from it to > another host, it is also very slow. Both FreeBSD boxes are on the same > ethernet, one works fine, while the other is horribly slow. I've checked > the calbes, etc. they seem to work fine. This can happen if you don't have the irq set correctly for the card. Check that the irq setting in the kernel matches the setting on the card. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 00:51:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA19812 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.tadiran.co.il (neptune.telecomm.tadiran.co.il [194.90.74.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA19796 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from yoav@localhost) by neptune.tadiran.co.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25656 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:48:23 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:48:23 +0300 (IDT) From: Yoav Newman (1822) Message-Id: <199607160748.KAA25656@neptune.tadiran.co.il> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 00:51:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA19878 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.tadiran.co.il (neptune.telecomm.tadiran.co.il [194.90.74.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA19863 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from yoav@localhost) by neptune.tadiran.co.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25680 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:48:58 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:48:58 +0300 (IDT) From: Yoav Newman (1822) Message-Id: <199607160748.KAA25680@neptune.tadiran.co.il> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 00:54:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA20182 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orac.albury.net.au (root@orac.albury.NET.AU [203.15.244.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20167 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orac.albury.net.au (rossw@orac.albury.NET.AU [203.15.244.10]) by orac.albury.net.au (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16764; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:54:03 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:54:02 +1000 (EST) From: Ross Wheeler To: questions@freebsd.org cc: Don Arnison Subject: Question for FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Sir! We have a FreeBSD box which will be connected via RS232 (serial) interface to an existing BSD host. We are attempting to add a SMALL network of ethernet connected machines to the FreeBSD host. These machines will require access to the internet, but I really don't want to allocate addresses to them from our (diminishing) IP allocation. I've heard from various sources that programs like wingate for windoze-95 and some similar products allow additional PCs to use IPs in the reserved 192.168.x.x range, and transparently gate them through to the net. I'm not sure how (if) this can be achieved with FreeBSD, but hope you can help us. To date, we have managed to connect the FreeBSD machine to our BSDI host via RS232, and have nameservice etc all operating happily. We can alternatively, connect via ethernet and also things work fine. What we want to do, but have been unable to work out *exactly how* is to use a *different* address block (192.168.x.x) on the ETHERNET (ep0) interface and allow boxes attached to that ethernet segment to access the internet via the RS232 link. There is a *slight* complication in that the machine will also have a couple of indial lines (modems). These should also operate in a similar manner to the locally attached Ethernet machines. Don has previously set up ppp on one test port, and dialed in sucessfully, and established a ppp connection. The FreeBSD box allocated him an address of 192.168.x.x (correctly) but would then not allow him to access anything apart from the local machine (by telnet). I think this is because of netmask settings, but have not confirmed it yet. Netmask settings should not be a problem however, as in a working configuration, the BSD host should KNOW that the required address is "out that port" and route it accordingly. After all, that's what routers do. What are we doing wrong? or not done that we should have? (is there a FAQ on all this somewhere? or a set of magic config files?) Best regards, Ross Wheeler From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 01:32:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA24239 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 01:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fw.tabula.com (fw.tabula.com [204.160.137.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA24227 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 01:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fw.tabula.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21446; Tue, 16 Jul 96 01:32:37 PDT Received: from tab012.tabula.com(204.119.64.12) by fw.tabula.com via smap (V1.3) id sma021444; Tue Jul 16 01:32:32 1996 Received: by tabula.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15277; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 01:31:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 01:31:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Thor Clark To: questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: David Greenman Subject: Re: system hangs? after resetting rtq_reallyold In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for the initial response - I'm completely stuck on this one. my info again running 2.1 release, pretty generic kernel (recompiled with 'options "NMBCLUSTER=2000"' the problem: machine becomes nonresponsive, generally after a few days (sometimes hours) of mail and http activity - I can force the breakdown by sending a big batch of mail pretty quickly -when it becomes nonresponsive, it will not respond to any ftp, telnet, http requests -from the console login, it will echo text, but will not respond with a password prompt -some background jobs continue to run, but cron jobs don't occur -no kernel messages are logged, and no panic occurs Am I out of space for new processes, or out of mbufs, or? only the Shadow knows... (sorry,it's a bit late here) This started to happen after a jump in http activity - I've rechecked to make sure that the new kernel was recompiled correctly and installed, as the mbuf solution seemed perfect, but the new kernel looks fine. Extremely grateful for any help or pointers - tearing my hair out at this point... -Thor Clark From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 01:34:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA24416 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 01:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.nation-net.com (www.nation-net.com [194.159.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA24405 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 01:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mag.nation-net.com (194.159.125.14) by www.nation-net.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:36:04 +0000 Message-ID: <31EB53BF.544F@nation-net.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:33:03 +0100 From: Paul Walsh X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: re-configure IDE cdrom Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is it possible to re-configure these ? It was OK but I was playing with the kernel etc and now I get the device not configured message although dev/wcd0c and /cdrom are still there. Can I get it back without reinstalling?? Cheers, Paul -- paul@nation-net.com Walsh Simmons 0161-839 9337 Manchester, UK From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 02:42:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA01663 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 02:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from charon.siemens.be (charon.siemens.be [193.210.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA01649 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 02:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by charon.siemens.be (8.7.4/nsafe-1.3) id ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:42:07 GMT Received: from atea.atea.be(193.210.197.11) by charon via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma010104; Tue Jul 16 11:41:51 1996 Received: from atdec1 by atea with SMTP (1.37.109.4/15.6-FW) id AA04275; Tue, 16 Jul 96 11:40:47 +0200 Received: from vnet by atdec1.atea.be (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA03139; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:41:35 +0200 Received: by vnet.atea.be; Tue, 16 Jul 96 11:41:41 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 12:42:09 WET Message-Id: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: (Rob Schofield) Subject: Printing probs. under a new 2.1 installation X-Incognito-Sn: 319 X-Incognito-Format: VERSION=2.01a ENCRYPTED=NO Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello there Gentlemen (and any ladies who may be tuned in, of course). My name is Rob Schofield, a software developer with UNIX sysadmin experience; you can assume a reasonable jargon threshold and familiarity with UNIX guts. After having a successful install experience with help from James Raynard, I thought I'd bug you again with another problem. I have installed 2.1 on a DEC applicationDEC fileserver machine, 486DX33, 16M RAM, various other bits. The machine is a multi-processor, EISA bus based box. Installed in there is a parallel printer port designated LPT1: under DOS, registered and correctly configured under the EISA config scheme. Hanging on the end of the cable is a brand-spanking new HP LaserJet 5L (I know, it was all I could afford) with PCL (V6.0?). Under DOS, it prints OK, likewise Win 3.11 WFW. It also prints from Win NT with no probs. Post FreeBSD 2.1 install, I tried to print a sample text file using the handbook tutorial. After checking the existence of a /dev/lpt0 (equiv. DOS LPT1) dev file and looking into the kernel to spot LPT support, I enabled interrupt driven operation using the LPTCONTROL util (lptcontrol -i -u0) which was acknowledged by the kernel with a SYSLOG message to console (I haven't configured my syslog daemon yet, sorry!). The /etc/printcap file was present but knocked out with #'s. Using LPTEST, I tried to spit out a page to the printer for the first test before configuring the spooler and plan text filters: lptest > /dev/lpt0 and I got back: "Device busy" after a timeout of a few seconds. I swapped the operation mode over to polled using lptcontrol: lptcontrol -p -u0 - and received another kernel acknowledgement at the console. I repeated the test, and got the "Busy" message again. I did notice in the FAQ that the newer HP printers seemed to have timing problems, but this sort of message seems to imply that FBSD is not too happy with it's internal hardware (the LPT port), rather than the external device giving trouble. Although I could plug at this a bit longer, I could do with any pointers to get me going if anyone has already heard of a similar problem to this. I appreciate all effort in advance, and can award honourary beer vouchers for redemption during visits to the Netherlands (so start planning those vacations now, kids!) Looking forward to hearing from (anyone?) Rob Schofield. -- Happiness is a smoking processor.......(running FreeBSD, of course!) Rob Schofield M.Sc. AMIEE schofiel@xs4all.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~schofiel From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 02:44:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA01881 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 02:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA01865 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 02:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stuyts by ns.NL.net via EUnet id AA10767 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:11:49 +0200 Received: by daneel.stuyts.nl (NX5.67f2/daneel940629) id AA19315; Tue, 16 Jul 96 11:09:19 +0200 Message-Id: <9607160909.AA19315@daneel.stuyts.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ben Stuyts Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 11:09:16 +0200 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Subject: Re: 2.1.5R: UUCP errors, no flow control? Cc: questions@freebsd.org, ben@stuyts.nl Reply-To: ben@stuyts.nl References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Ben Stuyts wrote: > > First of all, I am new to FreeBSD, but am very impressed with what I've seen > so far. I have a little problem though: I am setting up a system with 2.1.5R, > and I can't get UUCP to work properly. > > There is an external modem (ZyXEL 1496E+) on cuaa1, and I am trying to > connect with another system through UUCP. Outgoing files go just fine, but > incoming files give lots of NAK's, checksum errors, etc. I do not see any > RTS/CTS flow control (I have one of those little RS232 tester on the rs232 > port), so I suspect it must be related to that. > > I would suspect your modem isn't set to assert hardware flow control then. > Adjust your modem as necessary and see if that helps. > > Or your cable is incomplete; make sure to get a complete serial cable that > supports hardware flow control. The cable is a full 1:1 25p sub-D. I tried another one, and anyway, I can see all the relevant lights on (green/red) with a little rs232 tester. The modem should be set up for flow control, but I will check in any case. I think it is part of the factory settings in ZyXEL's case. But I think it is the computer that isn't doing flow control, as I can't see neither the RTS nor the CTS (always confused which is which) toggle during incoming data. Best regards, Ben From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 03:02:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA03875 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA03843; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ug6xX-000QgIC; Tue, 16 Jul 96 12:02 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA17073; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:31:49 +0200 Message-Id: <199607160931.LAA17073@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROMS (was: help) To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:31:49 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Hackers), questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <199607141731.TAA11966@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jul 14, 96 07:31:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk J Wunsch writes: > > As Greg Lehey wrote: > >> ATAPI >> CD-ROMs must account for 70% of installation problems. Soon they'll >> be standard equipment on all PCs. We need to do something about the >> situation. > > So do something. OK. Anybody who has an ATAPI CD-ROM which they can't get working under FreeBSD can send it to me and I'll make a best effort attempt to get it running. Sorry, owner pays freight in both directions. I'm going on vacation at the end of the week, so I can't start this until then. Please don't send me drives before contacting me; firstly, I could be overwhelmed, and secondly, I might already have the same kind of drive. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 03:05:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA04398 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA04383 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ug6xW-000QgGC; Tue, 16 Jul 96 12:02 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA17162; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:48:58 +0200 Message-Id: <199607160948.LAA17162@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: FreeBDS book (real paper book) To: fcheng@ix.netcom.com (Francis Cheng) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:48:57 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <31E94C4E.7676@ix.netcom.com> from "Francis Cheng" at Jul 14, 96 02:36:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Francis Cheng writes: > > How can I get a copy of the FreeBDS book (real paper book, not on-line > documentation). I'll be glad to pay for it. Order from Walnut Creek CDROM (sales@cdrom.com) Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 03:08:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA04814 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA04805 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ug6xW-000QgHC; Tue, 16 Jul 96 12:02 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA17030; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:22:23 +0200 Message-Id: <199607160922.LAA17030@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Help : kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? To: matt@bdd.net (Matthew Stein) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:22:23 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: from "Matthew Stein" at Jul 14, 96 05:17:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Matthew Stein writes: > > On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> I'm jumping into this thread rather late, and I can't remember: do you >> also have an IDE controller? I frequently use a trick that isn't very > > Yes, I've also got an IDE controller. > >> well known or appreciated: if you disable the IDE disks in the BIOS >> setup menu, you can boot from sd0 as DOS drive C: -- that's obvious. > > This is something that I considered, but renabling the IDE drive anytime I > want to boot DOS is a little out of the way compared to using Booteasy. Sure, I wasn't suggesting it as a solution, but it might help us figure out what's going on here. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 03:35:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA07929 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from al.imforei.apana.org.au (root@al.imforei.apana.org.au [202.12.89.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA07878 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pjchilds@localhost) by al.imforei.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA07459; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:04:37 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:04:37 +0930 (CST) From: Peter Childs Message-Id: <199607161034.UAA07459@al.imforei.apana.org.au> To: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade to 2.1.5 or 2.2-SNAP? X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : The options seem to be: : a) using sup/make world for either 2.1.5 or 2.2-SNAP; : b) getting the boot.flp for one of these and "upgrading" : using ftp (faster, but I'm not sure what an "upgrade" does); : c) buying the cdrom for either of these and upgrading. : Is backing up /etc the only essential protection one needs? Depends.... Decide how bad it would be if you lost the lot, and think of a friend with a nice tape drive, or other backup medium :) : Is there any reason for 2.1.5 instead of the 2.2 June 12 SNAP? : For example, will the various packages/ports from 2.1 continue : to work? 2.1.5-RELEASE is the end of the -stable tree (for 2.1) as far as i can gather. 2.2-current is the development tree. Its under constant development. I'd like to run -current here, but sometimes I have work to do, and the system _must_ work, so its -stable for me... :) -- Peter Childs --- http://www.imforei.apana.org.au/~pjchilds The internet is full, please try again in half an hour... From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 03:49:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA09722 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.siemens.at (proxy.siemens.at [192.138.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA09707 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sol1.gud.siemens.co.at (sol-f.gud.siemens-austria) by proxy.siemens.at with SMTP id AA29937 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:48:36 +0200 Received: from ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at by sol1.gud.siemens.co.at with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7 for ) id m0ug7gE-00021JC; Tue, 16 Jul 96 12:48 MET DST Received: by ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at (1.37.109.16/1.37) id AA164824005; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:46:45 +0200 From: "Hr.Ladavac" Message-Id: <199607161046.AA164824005@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at> Subject: Re: Printing on a Canon BJ10 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:46:45 +0200 (MESZ) Cc: jbrann@panix.com, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jul 15, 96 09:32:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In his e-mail Doug White wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, John Brann wrote: > > > I have a Canon BJ10 set up to print from FreeBSD, both through lpd, locally > > and through Samba. > > > > When printing from FreeBSD, in simple text mode, I always lose the last 2 > > lines of every page. My printcap entry is: > > Does the Canon require a formfeed to flush out the print buffer? My HP > 500C does, I hit "Load/Eject" and out comes the remaining text and the > page. > > If so, then you need to put in a simple output filter to stick on a > formfeed at the end of input. Such a script is in the Handbook. IIRC, there is a printcap that does the same. fp (flush page) or so. /Marino > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 04:07:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA10905 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.gaffaneys.com (dialup13.gaffaneys.com [134.129.252.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA10899 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zach@localhost) by freebsd.gaffaneys.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA00706; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:07:58 -0500 (CDT) To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: Steve Emmert , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Comm port trouble in 2.1.5 install References: From: Zach Heilig Date: 16 Jul 1996 06:07:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: Doug White's message of Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <87687owj5e.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> Lines: 47 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.32/Emacs 19.31 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White writes: > On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Steve Emmert wrote: > > > When I selected FTP install and COM 2 (/dev/cuaa1) then went to iij-ppp > > the modem would not respond to "at". I then did a "show modem" and found > > the device set to COM 1 (/dev/cuaa0). No amount of hacking with the option > > selections or "set device" in iij-ppp would work to get the modem on-line > > even when "show modem" displayed /dev/cuaa1. I took the disk back home and > > tried it on my system with the same results. I even FTP'ed a new boot.flp > > but nothing seems to work. My old 2.1 boot floppy works but a 2.2 -SNAP > > boot floppy fails too. > > > > Any ideas?? > > Make sure sio0 is being probed. I just changed that option on my 2.1.5 > installed machine, no problems. > > Did you check baudrate and data bits also? I noticed the same thing. If you look closely, I think the options of which device to attach the iij-ppp (and the slip stuff) to both mention cuaa0. No matter which of the 4 choices I was given, I always got /dev/cuaa0. I was able to manually select /dev/cuaa1, but the install hung later (nameserver crashed.. not really a 2.1.5 problem :-) I ended up just ftp'ing everything I needed manually, and extracting it over my running system. I merged my original /etc with the new /etc, installed the new bootblocks, rebooted, and recompiled my kernel, and rebooted. I noticed I had both /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.0 and /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1, and I also noticed that it chose the 2.0 version as opposed to the 2.1 version (ftp complained about having to use minor version 0, which is why I discovered it). Is there any reason ld.so would chose 2.0, when 2.1 is also present? One minor hitch: I accidentally extracted the kerberos distribution over my system as well. It is rather annoying, I should be able to get rid of it by just re-extracting the appropriate files from the bin distribution, right? -- Zach Heilig (zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com) Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have! ALL unsolicited commercial email is unwelcome. My policy is avoid dealing with companies that send out such mailings. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 04:27:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA12678 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krondor (dslip11.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.8.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA12667 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krondor (krondor [127.0.0.1]) by krondor (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA01592; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:57:42 +1000 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:57:42 +1000 (EST) From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cp_nairn@krondor To: Edmund Jackson cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: group changing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Edmund Jackson wrote: > > Hoes do you change a user's group > -edmund > > edit /etc/group From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 04:28:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA12763 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krondor (dslip11.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.8.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA12753 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krondor (krondor [127.0.0.1]) by krondor (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA01602; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:59:05 +1000 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:59:03 +1000 (EST) From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cp_nairn@krondor To: Edmund Jackson cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: group changing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Edmund Jackson wrote: > > Hoes do you change a user's group > -edmund > > whoops! edit /etc/group and the passwd file From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 04:44:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA14396 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oznet16.ozemail.com.au (oznet16.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA14378 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by oznet16.ozemail.com.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA06600 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:43:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from mercy.ozemail.com.au (slmel9p09.ozemail.com.au [203.7.187.25]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA18715 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:44:28 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199607161144.VAA18715@oznet02.ozemail.com.au> From: "Dean McGowan" To: Subject: Please help Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:43:44 +1000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1085 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi my name is Dean McGowan I am a web page designer and I am helping set up an ISP in melbourne.. what I would like to know is if you have a method/script/program for terminal type user registration and account setup that runs on a bsdi machine.. you see the people who configured our server neglected to mention and nay i say we neglected to ask whether this was part of the pakage....hmmm if you have any advice apart from a good slap in the earhole for being so silly (yes we admit it)...please respond soon... Thanks for taking the time to read this... Dean McGowan OzNet-Prophet (Web Page Design) http://www.ozemail.com.au/~mercy/ mercy@ozemail.com.au From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 04:52:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA15096 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com ([206.245.251.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA14989 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@[205.246.19.13]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA00622 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA26139 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:19:36 GMT Received: from buffnet3.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa18482; 16 Jul 96 7:20 EDT Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 07:20:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Superuser To: Joel Yancey cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5R installation troubles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Joel Yancey wrote: > ok, i boot up with the boot.flp, run the upgrade (or novice installion, > tried them both) and it runs great, until the FTP, then it ALWAYS stops > at 1225100, and then if you wait a VERY long time, like an hour, it'll > possible get more, or it'll timeout and hang up. most of the time it > times out, and asks me if i want to try to get more, and i answer yes, it > gets the doc, although it pauses about every meg or so, and then it goes This is the same problem the 2.1R install has - I do machines from a machine on my ethernet - Ive noted that if I do an ftp install from a different subnet it will stop at the same point - but if the same subnet, no problem. So I believe it to be some form of tcp/ip problem. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 05:20:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA18236 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 05:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.hsc.wvu.edu (www.hsc.wvu.edu [157.182.98.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA18227 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 05:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jsigmon@localhost) by www.hsc.wvu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA07053; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:22:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:22:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeremy Sigmon To: Mark Ovens <100104.10@CompuServe.COM> cc: questions Subject: Re: Building a Linux compatible kernel - How ? In-Reply-To: <960715214909_100104.10_EHQ37-1@CompuServe.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I installed it from the ports section. In my /usr/bin there is a file called linux When I run it (as root...) it installs the linux emulator. The file is also present in my /usr/src/lkm/linux/ directory. I hope this helps your find it. ====================================================================== Jeremy Sigmon B.S. ChE | WebSerf of the Robert C. Byrd Health | Sciences Center of West Virginia University | This Space For Rent WWW.HSC.WVU.EDU | Graduate Student in Computer Science | Office : 293-1060 | On 15 Jul 1996, Mark Ovens wrote: > I am trying, without success, to build a FreeBSD kernel with Linux > compatibility. > > I have installed the package linux_lib-1.0 which seems to come with only > the following brief instructions :- > > These libraries are part of the linux compatibility options > for FreeBSD. To get linux compat working you will need > > 1) A linux binary such as doom, Wingz, or maple > > 2) a kernel with ``options LINUX_COMPAT'' in the config file > > 3) these libraries > > 4) the linux compat lkm (ie run /usr/bin/linux) > > then run the linux binary. > > I added the "LINUX_COMPAT" option to the config file, I also tried > "COMPAT_LINUX" as other options which include "COMPAT" are of the format > "COMPAT_xxxxx", but in both cases the Makefile produced contained no reference > to "linux", except for the options line. > > I would expect the build to include some or all of the files in > /usr/src/sys/i386/linux. > > Also, the instruction 4), " the linux compat lkm (ie run /usr/bin/linux)" > is puzzling me. There is no file called "linux" in /usr/bin, or anywhere else on > my system (there is an executable "linux_mod" but that just produces the error > "Exec format error. Wrong Architecture" which all Linux programs seem to give. > > I am at a loss as to how to make it all work. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > Mark Ovens (100104.10@compuserve.com) > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 06:08:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA21484 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA21472 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA00646; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:03:45 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607161503.PAA00646@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: group changing To: cp_nairn@its.utas.edu.au (Carey Nairn) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:03:45 +0000 () Cc: edmund@hornet.netac.co.za, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from Carey Nairn at "Jul 16, 96 08:59:03 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Edmund Jackson wrote: > > > > > Hoes do you change a user's group > > -edmund > > > > > whoops! > > edit /etc/group and the passwd file > > DO NOT edit the passwd file !!!! Use vipw instead . Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 06:15:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA22254 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA22247 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA04110 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:15:56 GMT Received: from l01-058.usinternet.com(206.152.221.58) by smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaEAsDmb; Tue Jul 16 13:15:47 1996 Message-ID: <31EB9619.66EE@IBM.NET> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:16:09 -0500 From: Raymond Dobbs Organization: Midwest Data Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cannot get FreeBSD 2.1.5 RELEASE X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To Whom It May Concern; I was trying to find the 2.1.5 version of FreeBSD. But when I go to your FTP site, it says there is no such directory. Please could you help me find it. Sincerely; Raymond Dobbs From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 06:23:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA22956 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webster.telebit.com (webster.telebit.com [143.191.3.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA22948 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Chelmsford.Telebit.COM (sharps.chelmsford.telebit.com) by webster.telebit.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Telebit.COM-Sendmail-V4.3) id AA06176 to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Jul 96 09:23:11 EDT Received: from smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com by Chelmsford.Telebit.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1-pmm-2) id AA18739; Tue, 16 Jul 96 09:23:10 EDT Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA837534837; Tue, 16 Jul 96 09:19:38 EST Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 09:19:38 EST From: "Nathan Melhorn" Message-Id: <9606168375.AA837534837@smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com> To: n_melhor@webster.Telebit.COM, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Adding devices to boot.flp Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 13 July 96 Doug White wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Nathan Melhorn wrote: >> I was fairly successful adding parallel port IoMega ZipDrive > WHAT?!?!? You have a parallel Zip working? Whoa! What did you do, > write a driver? I thought the parallel wasn't supported and wasn't > for a very long time. The SCSI works OK. IOMega didn't offer anything. Searching the net, I found: http://www.torque.net/zip.html {mostly Linux ->} http://www.prism.uvsq.fr/~son/ppa3.html {FreeBSD ->} ftp://www.prism.uvsq.fr/~son/ppa3.c {the source} Nicolas Souchu has ported a Linux driver, but hasn't had time to do more work on it. I tried his driver on my machine. After changing the printer port from 0x278 to 0x378 and all int32->int32_t and u_int32->u_int32_t I got a kernel that could access the drive. The only problem is in the device probing at boot time, which takes about 2 minutes for the Zip! This didn't seem to depend on SCSI_DELAY perceptibly. As long as I can stand the long boot time, I've got a ZipDrive. Nicolas says he doesn't have time right now to work on this, and I may glance at it. There are some DELAY() ?? calls.. The only (other) problem is in accessing my MSDOS/FAT file systems. It occurs both for the hard drive and now for the Zip drive -- if I get too "busy" on the drive, the FAT structure seems to crash. When I boot back to MS-DOS, chkdisk/scandisk shows errors which I let it repair. It seems to happen more when fooling around with directories (vs. ordinary files). Thus, so far I first stage data on my Unix file systems, such as .zip and .tar.gz files, and then copy it once to an MS-DOS file system. Is FreeBSD's MSDOS file system less solid than the native file system, especially under heavy/multitasking load? Are there known concurrency problems? I've still to format a ZipDisk as a native Unix file system. > In response to your query, though, building a boot floppy is a long > and difficult process, basically requiring one to build the whole > release. Oh.. too bad. My machine at work is on the net, but the machine at home is not, and doesn't have a compatible CD-ROM drive. I'd like to copy a release to a ZipDisk and take it home to install. I'd thus need Zip drivers (or drivers for my CDROM) in a boot floppy. I think. I have full sources right now -- it isn't just "cd /usr/src/floppy" and then typing "make"? -Nate Melhorn (n_melhor@chelmsford.telebit.com) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 06:24:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA23079 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (terra.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA23056 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl (uucp@localhost) by terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.7.5) with UUCP id PAA24558 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:24:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA02724 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:30:01 +0200 (MET DST) From: FreeBSD matters of Mark Huizer (xaa) Message-Id: <199607161230.OAA02724@xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl> Subject: Hayes commands in /usr/share/misc... To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:30:01 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: xaa@stack.urc.tue.nl (Mark Huizer) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hmm... missing the *()U()^*(^& booklet again with my Hayes command set... Wouldn't it be an idea to get a selected nummer of commands of the Hayes command set somewhere in /usr/share/misc? Perhaps instead of the list of the deeper meanings of flowers? Greetings, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 06:35:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA24164 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.10.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA24159 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (mikes@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.10.5]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3/1.10IUPO) with ESMTP id IAA14153 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:35:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mikes@localhost) by nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (8.7.Beta.13/8.7.Beta.13/1.1clump) id IAA11791 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:35:46 -0500 From: michael squires Message-Id: <199607161335.IAA11791@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu> Subject: DAT tape drives To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:35:45 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The changeover from DDS to DDS-2 tapes has resulted in a lot of DAT tape drives being dumped on the surplus market. I'm not in the California area (any more) so I don't know what's availalble there, or in some other large urban area, but: JEM Computers (has a Web site, but it changed names recently and the old site is currently down) sells the Conner autoloader for $495 and the 12-DAT cartridge for $100. These appear to be unused. They are said to be usable as a single tape drive but would be difficult to load; they come with a 4-DAT cartridge. The same drive is also sold, at the same price, by Corporate Systems Center (www.corpsys.com) but the 12-DAT cartridge is $200. Both companies have also sold single DAT drives from time to time. CSC is also currently selling the Seagate ST43400N for aboout $330, new/ unused, with a 1 year warranty. I've bought stuff from both companies with no problems. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 06:42:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA24667 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA24656 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0ugANw-00018DC; Tue, 16 Jul 96 09:41 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: system hangs? after resetting rtq_reallyold Date: 16 Jul 1996 09:41:51 -0400 Lines: 13 Message-ID: <4sg66v$9e@twwells.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article , Thor Clark wrote: : Am I out of space for new processes, or out of mbufs, or? New processes, quite possibly; I've seen this happen before. Sendmail ought to have some way of limiting the number of simultaneous processes; see if you can set it and then try to force the hang. You may also have user processes that group without limit. See if you can get a systat or other *stat running on a virtual console when the problem occurs; it might show interesting results. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 07:05:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA26249 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 07:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cpmx.mail.saic.com (cpmx.mail.saic.com [139.121.95.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA26241 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 07:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.151.14.5] by cpmx.mail.saic.com; Tue, 16 Jul 96 07:05:03 -0700 Received: from SAIC1/SpoolDir by BlueRidge-EF.SAIC.COM (Mercury 1.21); 16 Jul 96 10:05:04 -0400 Received: from SpoolDir by SAIC1 (Mercury 1.30); 16 Jul 96 10:03:49 -0400 From: "Tony Magner" Organization: SAIC BlueRidge Engineering Facility To: questions@freebsd.ORG Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:03:38 EDT -0400 Subject: FTPD not loading on FBSD 2.1.1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.41) Message-Id: <31eba1902b14002@cpmx.mail.saic.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I hope somebody can help me! My BSD system has been running flawlessly for months until this past weekend sometime. What has happened now is that ftpd, telnetd, and Samba will not load. Even manually starting ftpd results in errors about getpeername and getsockname. I'm using wu-ftpd 2.4. Any ideas? Think the host table or maybe the kernel got screwed up? Please help as I'm desparate. Please respond privately as I'm not on this list. Thanks. -- Tony Magner -- Anthony.S.Magner@cpmx.saic.com (work) -- akmagner@interramp.com (home) PGP key: email maiser@blueridge-ef.saic.com with "finger magner" in the message body From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 07:05:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA26344 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 07:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sycgate.sycomore.fr (sycgate.sycomore.fr [192.134.92.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA26333 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 07:05:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.134.92.34] (berenguier.sycomore.fr [192.134.92.34]) by sycgate.sycomore.fr (8.6.3/8.5) with SMTP id PAA14362; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:46:54 +0200 X-Sender: berenguier@192.134.92.10 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora F1.5.3 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:06:28 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Eric.Berenguier@sycomore.fr (Eric Berenguier) Subject: FTP release 2.1.5 from ftp.freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I can't download release 2.1.5 on ftp.freebsd.org. why ? Does it mean there is a problem with 2.1.5R ? or can i safely download it from a mirror site ? Thanks, -- Eric Berenguier SYCOMORE 31, place des Corolles - 92098 PARIS LA DEFENSE http://www.sycomore.fr From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 07:26:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA27714 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 07:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emcity.cs.twsu.edu (emcity.cs.twsu.edu [156.26.10.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA27706 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 07:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by emcity.cs.twsu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10836; Tue, 16 Jul 96 09:21:11 CDT Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:21:11 -0500 (CDT) From: john goerzen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Ideas on FreeBSD Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk NOTE: please CC a copy of replie to me via e-mail (jgoerzen@cs.twsu.edu or jgoerzen@complete.org) as I am no longer subscribed to this list. Let me give a bit of background info first. I have been using FreeBSD on my computer since last November, when I switched to it from OS/2. I had really enjoyed the OS, but there was one problem, and it seemed to get bigger as I went along: there was no good way to run DOS programs except by actually booting DOS. Put another way, there was no decent DOS emulation in FreeBSD. I am the first to agree that there is a lot of quality Unix software out there. But the fact is that there are some DOS programs that just don't have Unix equivolents, and this is what has caused me to turn to Linux. A few weeks ago, I put Debian 1.1 (Linux kernel 2.0.0) on my system. The thing I miss most about FreeBSD is that it has very few bugs, when compared to Linux. (Except in the PPP area, esp. demand dialing) Linux has some bugs esp. with the display system. But looking at Debian, I see a much better package system that FreeBSD has. It is easier to use, and has more power. The kernel compilation was particularly nice. (It has a nice "dialog" type of configuration, with online help, rather than making you generate your config file by hand like in FreeBSD). Also, the Debian system allows PPP install, which FreeBSD does too. But Debian is much more resistant to problems (I unfortunately use an ISP that is not exactly reliable) Debian's install program is very nice. It will automatically configure a lot of stuff for you, and some packages even come with a nice script to prompt you for the info it needs to configure it. I have been using FreeBSD and waiting for DOS emulation to come out. I remember the excitement when FreeBSD was supposed to get BSDI's DOS emulator. And FreeBSD got it. But what happened? Nobody actually ported it to FreeBSD! It's just sitting there. (Before somebody tells me to "port it yourself", I have neither the expertise nor the computer to do that) So why am I writing this? I am trying to provide some constructive criticism concerning FreeBSD. I hope that by pointing out some flaws in FreeBSD, they can be fixed, and will benefit everyone. I also wanted to let people know why I left the FreeBSD camp, so that perhaps those specific problems can be fixed so others don't leave as well. I believe that FreeBSD is a very nice operating system, probably the most stable OS I've ever used, but, IMHO, it sacrifices too much to attain that level. For instance, it would seem to me that it wouldn't be too hard to make certain things be optional in the kernel config. If somebody wants the most stable FreeBSD they can get, they leave some things out. Otherwise, they can get some other features like DOS emulation, etc. Best regards, John Goerzen From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 08:01:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA00580 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from armonia.cnuce.cnr.it (armonia.cnuce.cnr.it [131.114.192.111]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA00572 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by armonia.cnuce.cnr.it (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09365; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:58:57 +0200 Message-Id: <31EBAE31.1237@armonia.cnuce.cnr.it> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:58:57 +0200 From: "Nello Nicoletti (tesi MM)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Help - can't boot well... X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook6.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I do have an AHA 2920 SCSI controller which is not supported by FreeBSD, as I have read on the handbook, but I'd still like to have FBSD on my pentium. Did anybody else have the same problem and how did he solve it? Or, did anyone configure his kernel in order to solve this? If so, please send me a copy. thanx in advance N E L L O From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 08:33:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA03010 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.w3page.com (root@p22.pm-3.pm.dimensional.com [206.100.130.86]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA02987 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion (blaine@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.w3page.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA01347 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:33:17 -0600 Message-ID: <31EBB63D.630E51FF@w3page.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:33:17 -0600 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: networking Linux <--> FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Congratulations to the FreeBSD crowd. You managed to reduce me to a quivering mass of nerves. After looking through the massive ( lack ) of documentation :-( , I have to do the one thing all grown men hate to do the most. Ask for help... Here is something that should be rather simple. Connect a Linux and FreeBSD box using TCP/IP. I have done this with Linux <--> Linux, but, for the life of me, I cannot talk to the BSD machine. My /etc/hosts files are 127.0.0.1 localhost 172.16.0.10 orion.whatever.com orion 172.16.0.20 xenu.whatever.com xenu my networks file is 172.16.0.0 what-net I ifconfig 172.16.0.10 ( and .20 ) to the devices eth0 and ed1 on the 2 machines respectively. Now on the linux box, I route add orion, and route add what-net I am not so clear on the BSD side of things. There is a slight syntax differnece, and have read the man pages, etc... Also, could someone be so kind as to give me some info on the /etc/sysconfig file... How is yours set up? A few examples could go a long way to making this the easy job I know it to be... All help greatly appreciated. -- Sincerely, Blaine Minazzi From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 08:34:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA03192 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sd.cts.com (root@sd.cts.com [192.188.72.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA03177 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sd.cts.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0ugC8w-000061C; Tue, 16 Jul 96 08:34 PDT Message-Id: From: johnm@sd.cts.com (John Mulhollen) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:34:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Subject: installing with Intel EPro... For some reason, i've been unable to get freebsd 2.1-release to recognize my EPRo card during the boot probe as device ix0. I tried to reconfigure the card to IRQ 10, IO 300 (the default for freebsd) but still no luck.. any help would be appreciated...(machine is AST pentium 133) -johnm From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 08:48:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04312 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccsun10.csie.nctu.edu.tw (jschang@ccsun10.csie.nctu.edu.tw [140.113.209.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04302 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (jschang@localhost) by ccsun10.csie.nctu.edu.tw (8.7.5/8.7.5) id XAA08978 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:46:13 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:46:13 +0800 (CST) From: jschang@csie.nctu.edu.tw (Jason Chang) Message-Id: <199607161546.XAA08978@ccsun10.csie.nctu.edu.tw> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: (fwd) cannot create /var/spool/output/lpd/.seq Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Reply-To: jschang@csie.nctu.edu.tw Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Path: news.csie.nctu.edu.tw!jason From: jason@csie.nctu.edu.tw (Jason Chang) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: cannot create /var/spool/output/lpd/.seq Date: 16 Jul 1996 15:43:29 GMT Organization: Dept. Comp. Sci. & Info. Eng., Chiao-Tung Univ., Taiwan Lines: 5 Message-ID: <4sgdb1$dg2@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Reply-To: jschang@csie.nctu.edu.tw NNTP-Posting-Host: jschang@ccsun10.csie.nctu.edu.tw X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I got this error message: cannot create /var/spool/output/lpd/.seq everything I execute lpr. Would somebody please give me a hand? -- ==CQ CQ,CQ DX====CQ CQ,CQ DX====CQ CQ,CQ DX====CQ CQ,CQ DX====CQ CQ,CQ DX==== QRA Jason Chang (±i³Ç¥Í) QSL jschang@csie.nctu.edu.tw QTH HsinChu, Taiwan QSO http://www.csie.nctu.edu.tw/~jschang ==73 & 88========73 & 88========73 & 88========73 & 88========73 & 88======== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 08:50:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04448 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.PII.COM (pii.com [192.77.209.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04427 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PII.COM by PII.COM (4.1/SMI-4.4) id AA08760; Tue, 16 Jul 96 09:04:55 PDT Received: by smtp with Microsoft Mail id <31EBB9B4@smtp>; Tue, 16 Jul 96 08:48:04 PDT From: Robert Clark To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: FW: Good, cheap 8mm tape system needed Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 08:47:00 PDT Message-Id: <31EBB9B4@smtp> Encoding: 31 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mike, I've had good luck with HP SureStore 5000i drives. (4mil DAT internal) Around 800$ last time I checked. [RC] ---------- From: owner-freebsd-questions To: freebsd-questions Subject: Good, cheap 8mm tape system needed Date: Sunday, July 14, 1996 5:11PM My Colorado Jumbo 350 floppy tape drive just blew up its motor for the second time and I'm abandoning that product line. It's just not reliable: I've had endless problems with media errors, hardware breakage, and the lack of support under FreeBSD. It's time to get a real tape drive. I'm looking for a good 4 or 8mm tape subsystem that a) works under things like Norton Backup (for the DOS side of the house) and b) works right under FreeBSD as a no-fuss no-bother SCSI tape drive. Is this available for under $1,000? If so, what is it, and where is it? Thanks! Mike O'Brien aka Mr. Protocol, on a good day at least, which so far this is not From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 09:11:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA06746 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA06734 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA11593; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA13523; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:12:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: mtoole@hidesert.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <31EB5987.6125@hidesert.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996 mtoole@hidesert.com wrote: > Hello again, I have run the xf86config utility and I am still having > problems. Hopefully you can help me with this. Below are two attached > files; the first one being the startx errors and the second being my > ttys file. Do you need any other information? Thanks. I don't know. Have you tried not using the special vtty for the X server? Looking at your /etc/ttys, it looks like the default one supplied... My /etc/ttys has many more entries, like... ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ... ttyvf "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure for a total of 15 virtual terminals. You don't need a virtual a virtual terminal specially configured for X as you have. I'd guess that your first problem is that you don't have ttyv10 configured. You have to (as root), cd /dev ./MAKEDEV ttyva Your other obvious problem is that there is no such thing as ttyv10. The numbering should go like this.... ttyv0 ttyv1 ttyv2 ttyv3 ... ttyv9 ttyva ttyvb ... ttyvf You should usually keep questions@freebsd.org in the Cc: list so that when I lie about how to fix your problem, they can yell at me to remind me that I'm wrong (or, more likeily, so that when I don't know the answer, someone else can answer. Or better yet, for faster turnaround.) -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 09:30:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA09338 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from optim.ism.net ([205.199.12.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09333 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from optim.ism.net (jdc@optim.ism.net [205.199.12.2]) by optim.ism.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA02887; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:46:17 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:46:16 -0600 (MDT) From: John-David Childs To: jack cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb bug in 2.1.5? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, jack wrote: > > Did you remember to install (or not) DES support to match your 2.1-R > setup? > Ok....I'm lost...I've just reinstalled 2.1-R on my new box, copied the /etc/master.passwd file, run pwd_mkdb -p and no dice...the passwords are not the same. How do I determine the DES support installed on the two machines? PS: Now that I think about it, the "other" box is running 2.1-STABLE which was sup'd in May...but given the current condition of 2.1-STABLE (e.g. the possibility of the 2.1.5 bug in ep0) I really don't want to sup my new box ;-) -- John-David Childs www.marsweb.com/www.ism.net System Administrator Internet Services Montana (406)721-6277 & Network Engineer M@RSWeb - Montana's PREMIER Web Site "I used up all my sick days...so I'm calling in dead" From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 09:46:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA11029 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.PII.COM (pii.com [192.77.209.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA11020 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PII.COM by PII.COM (4.1/SMI-4.4) id AA10303; Tue, 16 Jul 96 10:01:07 PDT Received: by smtp with Microsoft Mail id <31EBC6E0@smtp>; Tue, 16 Jul 96 09:44:16 PDT From: Robert Clark To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: FW: Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 09:43:00 PDT Message-Id: <31EBC6E0@smtp> Encoding: 36 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John, The ix0 driver is for the EtherExpress 16. EtherExpress (ix driver.) Pro-10 (No driver.) Flash32 (No driver.) Pro-100 Rev A (No driver.) Pro-100 Rev B (fpx driver.) I used an EtherExpress-16 for awhile, and had trouble. I found that there were lots of old (16bit) Western Digital cards around, and switched over to running the ed0 driver instead. Questions to anyone: Do the NE2000 cards work as well as the old SMC/WD cards? [RC] robert.clark@pii.com ---------- From: owner-freebsd-questions To: questions Date: Tuesday, July 16, 1996 8:34AM Subject: installing with Intel EPro... For some reason, i've been unable to get freebsd 2.1-release to recognize my EPRo card during the boot probe as device ix0. I tried to reconfigure the card to IRQ 10, IO 300 (the default for freebsd) but still no luck.. any help would be appreciated...(machine is AST pentium 133) -johnm From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 10:11:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA13194 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jack.Colorado.EDU (jack.Colorado.EDU [128.138.149.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA13187 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jack (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jack.Colorado.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with SMTP id LAA13548; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:06:55 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <31EBCC2F.5FB7@Colorado.EDU> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:06:55 -0600 From: "Mark O'Lear" Organization: University of Colorado X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Babler CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: syslog and ntpdate References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dave Babler wrote: > > I'm cleaning up my act, security-wise, here. Once upon a time, I logged > in to the console as root and left the session logged in as a 'console > log'. This is a secure office, so that was reasonably safe... but bad > form, of course. I then then cleaned up my act and changed syslog.conf so > that the items of interest get logged directly to the console and all is > well. Or almost. Oddly, I can no longer get info reports from ntpdate > (run with cron every 2 hours), though I used to. My syslog.conf is now: > > ---- /etc/syslog.conf > *.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit /dev/console > *.notice;kern.debug;lpr,auth.info;mail.crit /var/log/messages > mail.info /var/log/maillog > lpr.info /var/log/lpd-errs > cron.* /var/cron/log > *.err root > *.notice;auth.debug root > *.alert root > *.emerg * > *.notice;*.alert;auth.debug;*.alert /dev/console > ---- xntpd logs most of it's stuff to daemon.info plus some warnings with daemon.warning (none of which get logged according to your above syslog.conf). > so I -assumed- that the console should get all the log messages that root > used to (except for .err messages)... but the time adjustments don't show. > I also tried adding: > > !ntpdate.* /dev/console > If you want to use the above, I believe that you have to break it into two lines: !ntpdate *.* /dev/console > Which seemed to correspond to the program usage in syslog.conf, but it > made no difference. What did I do wrong? > > Puzzled... > > -Dave -- Mark O'Lear \ e-mail: Mark.Olear@Colorado.EDU University of Colorado \ phone: (303) 492-3798 Telecomm. Svcs. (CB 313) \ fax: (303) 492-5105 Boulder, CO 80309 \ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 10:15:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA13852 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aleph.lpi.ac.ru (Moscow-BNS011.free.net [147.45.2.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA13837 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from td.lpi.ac.ru by aleph.lpi.ac.ru with ESMTP id VAA04065; (8.6.12/D) Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:13:24 +0400 Received: by td.lpi.ac.ru id VAA02156; (8.6.12/D) Thu, 16 Jul 1987 21:03:34 +0400 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1987 21:03:34 +0400 From: mns@td.lpi.ac.ru (Maksim Stolyarov) Message-Id: <198707161703.VAA02156@td.lpi.ac.ru> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.1.5-R 700? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Colleagues! I've tried to ftp 2.1.5-R today (16 July) but :-( ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/FreeBSD/2.1.5-RELEASE has mode 700 ... The same result with http://www.freebsd.org/.../2.1.5... Is it intentional? Or just mistake ... Best regards, Maksim. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 10:23:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA14724 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.iol.co.il (root@mail.iol.co.il [192.116.192.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14666 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (kube27.access.net.il [205.164.141.91]) by mail.iol.co.il (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA12507 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:22:30 +0200 Message-ID: <31E7DB95.54EE@iol.co.il> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 20:23:33 +0300 From: Roey Almog X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Video Display Cards X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 1. I didn't found nothing about support for video display cards such as ATI Graphics Expression (thats the one I have). from what I have read it seems that only VGA resolution can be used (i.e. 640*480) and that no hardware ecceleration functions of the card will be used. Does my impression is right ? 2. Another importent aspect to software devlopers is a daul monitor support currently I use MDA monitor to run a debugger and to send debug massages to, and the S_VGA monitor is free for the tested application. Is these will be possible on the FreeBSD o/s ? 3. Thank you for acknoledging my questions, and have a nice day. Roey Almog From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 10:33:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15381 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15367 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id KAA10615; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:33:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Babler To: "Mark O'Lear" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: syslog and ntpdate In-Reply-To: <31EBCC2F.5FB7@Colorado.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Mark O'Lear wrote: > Dave Babler wrote: > > > > ... I then then cleaned up my act and changed syslog.conf so > > that the items of interest get logged directly to the console and all is > > well. Or almost. Oddly, I can no longer get info reports from ntpdate > > (run with cron every 2 hours), though I used to. My syslog.conf is now: > > > > ---- /etc/syslog.conf > > *.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit /dev/console > > *.notice;*.alert;auth.debug;*.alert /dev/console > > xntpd logs most of it's stuff to daemon.info plus some warnings with > daemon.warning (none of which get logged according to your above > syslog.conf). Thanks!! Apparently so does ntpdate as well (I run it from crontab - xntpd isn't run, since my time server isn't local. I assume that's the right decision) Adding daemon.* returns the time-correction messages now. > > > so I -assumed- that the console should get all the log messages that root > > used to (except for .err messages)... but the time adjustments don't show. > > I also tried adding: > > > > !ntpdate.* /dev/console > > > > If you want to use the above, I believe that you have to break it into > two lines: > > !ntpdate > *.* /dev/console Yup... works too - and I could have sworn I tried that too at some point. -Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 11:03:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA18265 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.interramp.com (smtp2.interramp.com [38.8.200.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA18258 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from portal.east.saic.com by smtp2.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id OAA10690; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:03:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199607161803.OAA10690@smtp2.interramp.com> Received: from [198.151.14.7] by portal.east.saic.com via smtpd (for smtp2.interramp.com [38.8.200.2]) with SMTP; 16 Jul 1996 18:03:33 UT Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tony Magner" Organization: SAIC BlueRidge Engineering Facility To: Stephen Hovey Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:02:59 EDT -0400 Subject: Re: FTPD not loading on FBSD 2.1.1 CC: questions@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.41) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yes, my machine is in /etc/hosts and, no, I'm not running named. Any other suggestions? Thus spake Stephen Hovey on 16 Jul 96 about Re: FTPD not loading on FBSD 2.1.1: >Is your own machine in your hosts table? are you using named? > >On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Tony Magner wrote: > >> I hope somebody can help me! >> >> My BSD system has been running flawlessly for months until this past >> weekend sometime. What has happened now is that ftpd, telnetd, and Samba >> will not load. Even manually starting ftpd results in errors about >> getpeername and getsockname. I'm using wu-ftpd 2.4. Any ideas? Think >> the host table or maybe the kernel got screwed up? Please help as I'm >> desparate. >> >> Please respond privately as I'm not on this list. >> -- Tony Magner -- Anthony.S.Magner@cpmx.saic.com (work) -- akmagner@interramp.com (home) PGP key: email maiser@blueridge-ef.saic.com with "finger magner" in the message body From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 11:08:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA18753 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nol.net (zac@dazed.nol.net [206.126.32.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA18740 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zac@localhost) by nol.net (8.7.5/NOL - 8.*) id NAA17387 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:07:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:07:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Doug Swarin Message-Id: <199607161807.NAA17387@nol.net> X-AUTH: NOLNET SENDMAIL AUTH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Disk error problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm having a problem with my disk (and I'm aware its a hardware problem) but I cannot use bad144 to mark the sectors that are bad on the disk as bad. Whenever something tries to read the damaged sectors FreeBSD does not error out but rather continually gives me: wd0: soft error reading fsbn 1808??? of 1808???-1808??? (bn 2071117 [track/cyl]) error 1 and I cannot do anything (break out of the program, reboot the machine, etc) but must reboot. Does anyone know of a way I can tell FreeBSD that these blocks are bad without using bad144? Thanks in advance Doug From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 11:23:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA20133 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baygate.bayarea.net (baygate.bayarea.net [204.71.212.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20126 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mcnab@localhost) by baygate.bayarea.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA03277; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:17:37 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:17:37 -0700 From: David McNab Message-Id: <199607161817.LAA03277@baygate.bayarea.net> To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov CC: black@MR.Net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199607160327.DAA25014@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> (message from Sean Kelly on Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:27:28 -0600) Subject: Re: can't delete rcp Reply-to: David McNab Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean Kelly wrote: |>>>>> "Ben" == Ben Black writes: | | Ben> i tried unlinking the thing, cat /dev/null onto it...what | Ben> simple thing am i missing? | | chflags noschg rcp I haven't been around here very long, so if this has been discussed to death please pardon me for bringing it up. This "flags" thing looks like an abomination to me. What is the rationale behind it, and where did it come from? -- Dave McNab From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 12:16:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26602 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer28.u.washington.edu (durang@homer28.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA26586 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer28.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA100990; Tue, 16 Jul 96 12:16:07 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:16:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: nologin file, lpr daemon, etc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, I finally figured it out myself. I did a sort of jury-rig, or a "hack" I guess is what you would call it. I am dying to know a more elegant way to make it work. I think the problem is the result of the rc trying to mount my CD-ROM. It would be nice if it were possible, but that is not my immediate concern. It is an ATAPI CD-ROM, and I assume I will have to make kernel changes to support it. For now, I would be happy deleting a device file or whatever to keep the rc from hitting the cd9660 error. The problem was in my /etc/rc file: mount -a -t nonfs This would produce an error message: cd9660: -o auto: option not supported filesystem mount failed, startup aborted. The line following the error message in the rc file was: exit 1 So my fix was changing it to: echo "let's press on anyway!" Thanks for the help. Keep in mind that I have almost no experience with Unix, and I just figured out what the rc file is this morning. If someone knows of a good book that might say something like, "The /etc/rc file is anologous to DOS's autoexec.bat file.", please let me know! Ken Marsh durang@u.washington.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 12:40:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA02228 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02222 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA28526; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:39:55 GMT Message-Id: <199607161939.TAA28526@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA117426025; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:40:25 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:40:25 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: mcnab@bayarea.net Cc: black@MR.Net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607161817.LAA03277@baygate.bayarea.net> (message from David McNab on Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:17:37 -0700) Subject: Re: can't delete rcp Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "David" == David McNab writes: David> This "flags" thing looks like an abomination to me. David> What is the rationale behind it, and where did it come David> from? I'm not sure where it came from, but one rationale is system security. By marking certain files as immutable, append-only, etc., and by running your system at a high security level, even people who compromise root won't be able to muck with your hard-earned configuration, since the flags can't be changed. The best they could do is shutdown into single user mode---but then you keep the console behind closed doors. See sysctl(1) to find out how to change the system security level. (Of course, you can do quite a bit of damage as root anyway.) -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 12:43:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA02595 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02587 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA28545; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:42:57 GMT Message-Id: <199607161942.TAA28545@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA117516208; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:43:28 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:43:28 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: mcnab@bayarea.net Cc: black@MR.Net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607161817.LAA03277@baygate.bayarea.net> (message from David McNab on Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:17:37 -0700) Subject: Re: can't delete rcp Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "David" == David McNab writes: David> What is the rationale behind it, and where did it come David> from? Oh, and there's a good discussion on security levels and what they do in init(1). For example: 1 Secure mode - immutable and append-only flags may not be changed; disks for mounted filesystems, /dev/mem, and /dev/kmem are read- only. so that's another reason to use chflags on sensitive files. You might even want to go as far as setting immutable on all distribution media files, like /usr/bin/*. Be careful out there! -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 13:01:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06961 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06944 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA28657; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:01:41 GMT Message-Id: <199607162001.UAA28657@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA117997331; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:02:11 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:02:11 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: durang@u.washington.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Ken Marsh on Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:16:07 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: nologin file, lpr daemon, etc. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sounds like to me you just need to put "noauto" on the line for your CD-ROM drive in /etc/fstab. Then /etc/rc can do "exit 1" again instead of "echo ...". -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 13:06:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07905 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07869 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br (clpc1.compuland.com.br [200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA31364 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:05:41 -0300 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:05:41 -0300 Message-Id: <199607162005.RAA31364@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: Tape drives Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: I checked J.M.Bresler page about tape drives (very good indeed!), but what about the floppy tape drives ? They are cheap (like Colorado and Seagate), Do they work with FreeBSD ? They worth a try ? Thanks! Helio. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 13:19:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA10297 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.xtalwind.net (h-adroit.x31.infi.net [206.27.115.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA10278 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.xtalwind.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA05536; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:18:33 -0400 (EDT) From: jack X-Sender: jacko@localhost To: John-David Childs cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb bug in 2.1.5? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, John-David Childs wrote: > > > > Did you remember to install (or not) DES support to match your 2.1-R > > setup? > > > Ok....I'm lost...I've just reinstalled 2.1-R on my new box, copied the > /etc/master.passwd file, run pwd_mkdb -p and no dice...the passwords are > not the same. How do I determine the DES support installed on the two > machines? Take a look at the passwoerd fields in /etc/master.passwd. If the field starts with '${a number}$' it is NOT for DES. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- jacko@xtalwind.net Finger jacko@onyx.xtalwind.net for my PGP key Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 13:19:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA10367 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dub-img-1.compuserve.com (dub-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.206.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10345 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dub-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id QAA18970; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:18:09 -0400 Date: 16 Jul 96 16:14:48 EDT From: "John F. Diggan" <74361.2505@CompuServe.COM> To: FreeBSD_CDROM Cc: FreeBSD Subject: CRYPT & Restricted Shell Message-ID: <960716201448_74361.2505_HHG78-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk CRYPT- Do I go over the network and treat the files at "ftp://skelton.mikom.csir.co.za" as ports or do I down load them to my system and then make them in a convential way? RESTRICTED Shell-Where can I obtain a restricted shell for FreeBSD_2.1. A shell that supports "sh -r " or a "rsh" similar to Solaris. This type shell will not allow "cd" and many other commands. Thank You 74361.2505@compuserve.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 13:27:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA12077 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from t3tech.com (ns1.t3tech.com [205.182.11.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12045 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by t3tech.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA01632; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:25:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:25:29 -0500 (EST) From: The UNIX Mighty!!! To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Serial printer! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Has anyone got any serial printer to work under FreeBSD I'm currently using SNAP version cuz of ps2 mouse.. I have NEC silentwriter 95F.. The printer gets something says proccessing and just waites... BTW I use /dev/cuaa0 and for debug I used cat /etc/motd >/dev/cua00 Any help app Bikesh bikesh@tum.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 13:33:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA13844 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strech.cyber-naut.com (strech.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13792 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ebola.cyber-naut.com (ebola.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.4]) by strech.cyber-naut.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA17233; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:32:37 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:32:37 -0600 Message-Id: <199607162032.OAA17233@strech.cyber-naut.com> X-Sender: blair@mail.cyber-naut.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: davidg@root.com From: Blair Schmittel Subject: Re: FreeBSD box talking slowly Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 12:18 AM 7/16/96 -0700, you wrote: >>Hello; >> >>I have a FreeBSD 2.1R box with a 3Com card in it. When I ping from it or to >> it, I get pathetic ping times, such as 549.06. When I ping from another >> FreeBSD box to any other computer I get ping times of about 0.880. >> >>What would cause one of my boxes to ping so slowly? When I telnet from it to >> another host, it is also very slow. Both FreeBSD boxes are on the same >> ethernet, one works fine, while the other is horribly slow. I've checked >> the calbes, etc. they seem to work fine. > > This can happen if you don't have the irq set correctly for the card. Check >that the irq setting in the kernel matches the setting on the card. That's not the problem.. Get this, if I let ping run, each ping decreases in time by 10ms. It starts at about 170ms, then goes to about 10ms after several pings. After 10ms, it jumps up to 1,000ms. It still talks slow. I checked the IRQ and the card matches the kernel, I disabled every device which used IRQ 10 also, nothing seems to help... Thanks, Blair From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 13:39:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA15654 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spoon.beta.com (root@[199.165.180.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA15610 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA11616 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:39:28 -0400 Message-Id: <199607162039.QAA11616@spoon.beta.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.1.5-RELEASE(?) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:39:27 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just noticed that 2.1.5-RELEASE is in the FTP site, but its only readable by uid 2035. Any idea when it will be going public? -Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 13:39:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA15656 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (root@ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15627 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-20.ime.net [206.231.148.149]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA22071 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:39:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31EBFE22.7931@ime.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:40:02 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: lft floppy tape package Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Where did lft get put?? (Floppy Tape patch) looked around on freebsd.org and can't seem to find it. Last I knew it was in incomming. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 13:55:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA18476 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aleph.lpi.ac.ru (Moscow-BNS011.free.net [147.45.2.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18447 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from td.lpi.ac.ru by aleph.lpi.ac.ru with ESMTP id AAA05068; (8.6.12/D) Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:53:21 +0400 Received: by td.lpi.ac.ru id AAA03158; (8.6.12/D) Fri, 17 Jul 1987 00:43:46 +0400 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1987 00:43:46 +0400 From: mns@td.lpi.ac.ru (Maksim Stolyarov) Message-Id: <198707162043.AAA03158@td.lpi.ac.ru> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: (Re: 2.1.5-R 700?) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanx a lot for the info. I'm sitting (better working) and waiting for 755 ;-) ... Good luck and best regards, Maksim. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 14:04:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA20122 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA20111 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA26038; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:04:17 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:04:17 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607162104.PAA26038@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Ken Marsh Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nologin file, lpr daemon, etc. In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The problem was in my /etc/rc file: > > mount -a -t nonfs > > This would produce an error message: > > cd9660: -o auto: option not supported > filesystem mount failed, startup aborted. Umm, this points to a bug in /etc/fstab. In the line, there should be something that looks like this (device may vary). /dev/cd0a /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto Note the 'noauto'. Someone has modified your system to use the 'auto' line, which is a typo. Change 'auto' -> 'noauto' and life will be well; > The line following the error message in the rc file was: > > exit 1 > > So my fix was changing it to: > > echo "let's press on anyway!" This is bad. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 14:15:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA21564 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA21540 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA13507 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:15:40 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA00645; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:13:47 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607162013.NAA00645@starshine> Subject: Re: IP Masquerading.. To: brandon@tombstone.sunrem.com (Brandon Gillespie) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Brandon Gillespie" at Jul 16, 96 00:06:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I know Linux can do it (I have a friend who has it setup, masquerading > a Win95 machine through his Linux box to the network via ppp). > -Brandon Gillespie Darren Reed's IPFilter package. Consider using SOCKS instead. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 14:23:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA23134 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA22824 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA13494 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:15:37 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA00636; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:12:01 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607162012.NAA00636@starshine> Subject: Re: Question for FreeBSD To: rossw@albury.net.au (Ross Wheeler) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, darnison@albury.net.au In-Reply-To: from "Ross Wheeler" at Jul 16, 96 05:54:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Dear Sir! > > We have a FreeBSD box which will be connected via RS232 (serial) > interface to an existing BSD host. We are attempting to add a SMALL network > of ethernet connected machines to the FreeBSD host. These machines will > require access to the internet, but I really don't want to allocate > addresses to them from our (diminishing) IP allocation. > > I've heard from various sources that programs like wingate for windoze-95 > and some similar products allow additional PCs to use IPs in the reserved > 192.168.x.x range, and transparently gate them through to the net. I'm > not sure how (if) this can be achieved with FreeBSD, but hope you can > help us. This is called a "proxying host" or service. You'd install SOCKS on the FreeBSD host. The Trumpet TCP/IP suite allows transparent access between WINSOCK compatible applications and a SOCKS gateway. I guess the TIS FWTK (Trusted Information Systems Inc? Firewall Toolkit) also has a proxying service. I've never used it and haven't read enough about it to even guess that it might be compatible with SOCKS. That's the theory. I'm just trying to configure that around the house myself -- I'll let you know how it goes. The other approach is to use network address translation (NAT, a.k.a. "IP masquerading") -- Darren Reed's IPFilter package allegedly does this with FreeBSD (Linux has it built in to recent kernels -- a controversial design decision at best). Note: The difference between proxying and NAT is that proxying requires that the applications be written to the API (that they "know how to do it"). NAT doesn't require special clients. However there are still some applications that can't run through it. In addition it probably represents a higher load on the server. The decision of whether to use SOCKS, NAT or a combination thereof is largely a matter of your site security/"acceptable use" policy. If you want to provide your users with the most liberal and most transparent access possible -- use a combination (SOCKS for the supported applications -- NAT for some others and a "normal" multi-user host (accessed via telnet/ssh) for any remaining apps and acceptable services. If you want the most secure -- use SOCKS with a fairly restrictive configuration. Don't allow any NAT and put all services on strictly controlled servers. You may also want to install cached (or some other caching web server) on the proxy host, or a machine that is accessible directly from both networks. This can minimize the traffic between the net by allowing a large number of the web hits to be serviced from a host on the protected/hidden (private) LAN. > To date, we have managed to connect the FreeBSD machine to our BSDI host > via RS232, and have nameservice etc all operating happily. We can > alternatively, connect via ethernet and also things work fine. > > What we want to do, but have been unable to work out *exactly how* is to > use a *different* address block (192.168.x.x) on the ETHERNET (ep0) > interface and allow boxes attached to that ethernet segment to access the > internet via the RS232 link. If you have two interfaces -- with an address from one range bound to one, and an address from another range bound to the other than the machine will try to act as a router. Using SOCKS or NAT you don't want it to do that (configure the kernel forwarding "OFF"). > > There is a *slight* complication in that the machine will also have a > couple of indial lines (modems). These should also operate in a similar > manner to the locally attached Ethernet machines. You could assign private (RFC 1597) net IP addresses to each of the dial in lines. The host will then (you might also need static routes for each -- I'm not sure) > Don has previously set up ppp on one test port, and dialed in > sucessfully, and established a ppp connection. The FreeBSD box allocated > him an address of 192.168.x.x (correctly) but would then not allow him to > access anything apart from the local machine (by telnet). I think this is > because of netmask settings, but have not confirmed it yet. Netmask > settings should not be a problem however, as in a working configuration, > the BSD host should KNOW that the required address is "out that port" and > route it accordingly. After all, that's what routers do. 192.168.1.* (through 192.168.254.*) are class C ranges -- you should use a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 (unless you intend subnet it even further -- which seems unnecessary). It is more likely a routing issue. You probably need to manually add entries to your routing table. > What are we doing wrong? or not done that we should have? (is there a > FAQ on all this somewhere? or a set of magic config files?) The address ranges that your talking about are listed in RFC 1597 (superceded by 1918? -- but there's nothing new in the newer versions). There are also other IANA reserved address blocks including 10.*.*.* and 172.16.*.* through 172.31.*.* (???). The firewalls FAQ has somethings to say about this. I don't know about the rest -- as I'm wrestling with some of this now. We can share our discoveries (off line, by phone or on the list -- it doesn't matter to me). Hopefully I'll have time to put some of this together and put it on my web site (www.starshine.org -- don't bother looking yet -- there's just a "placeholder" page there at the moment). > Best regards, Ross Wheeler From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 14:41:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA26914 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26901 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA07843 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:41:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Compatible CD-ROM Drives for FreeBSD (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 22:06:02 -0700 From: Roosevelt Elliott To: support@cdrom.com Subject: Compatible CD-ROM Drives for FreeBSD I am running FreeBSD on a 386-40sx processor which I installed by making floppy disks from the CD to do the install. I currently do not have a CD-ROM drive on my computer running FreeBSD and am unable to use the rest of the software on the CD. I would like a list of models of CD-ROM drives 2x, 4x or 6x speed which have been successfully installed and perform efficiently. I would appreciate a list of manufacturer, location, telephone number, models, speed and any other pertinent information. I have been unable to locate a Matsushita CR-562 or CR-563 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 15:02:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA28945 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA28935 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA10967; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:02:01 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:02:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Joel Yancey To: Carlos Ugarte cc: Paul Walsh , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unpopular SCSI card In-Reply-To: <199607160156.VAA26995@oscar.cc.gatech.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk if anyone gets this working, PLEASE notify me, i have 2 different SCSI cards, and neither is supported, i would very much like to hear about a driver for the TMC-1610. Thanks, Joel Yancey (it's times like these i wish i could program driver's) On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Carlos Ugarte wrote: > > > One last check! > > > > Did anyone ever get the Future Domain 1610 to work? > > This sounds like one of the cards based on the TMC-800 (or > related) series of chipsets (and would not be supported under the > seagate driver). I'm working on a driver for these, but it's > going very slowly. Adaptec now owns Future Domain, and they > don't have any technical information that they can give/sell me. > I'm using the Linux driver as a base, but no telling if it'll > work. > > Carlos > > -- > Carlos A. Ugarte cau@cc.gatech.edu > Author of PageMage, a virtual desktop util for OS/2 > http://www.cc.gatech.edu/people/home/cau/ > If you understand what you're doing, you are not learning anything > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 15:06:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA29245 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA29237 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29346; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:06:25 GMT Message-Id: <199607162206.WAA29346@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA122454811; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:06:51 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:06:51 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: bikesh@t3tech.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: (message from The UNIX Mighty!!! on Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:25:29 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: Serial printer! Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "The" == The UNIX Mighty!!! writes: The> I have NEC silentwriter 95F.. The printer gets something says The> proccessing and just waites... First, see either file:/usr/share/doc/handbook/handbook.html (installed system) http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook.html (elsewhere) and see the section on printing. Then, send us a copy /etc/printcap file, and copies of the filters you're using. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 15:06:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA29294 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA29283 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA11003; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:06:40 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:06:39 -0600 (MDT) From: Joel Yancey To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.1.5R installation troubles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, i would have beleived it was the fact the Freebsd.org was loaded, but it did this everytime in the bindist after re-starting the install at LEAST 15 times.....so i dont think that is the case. but yet, the same day, my friend installed it no problem, the user distro. i tried the minimal, user, kern-developer, ect.. none worked. and eventaully it will get passed and continue the download, and it'll stop some where between the 12-15 meg range, and never come back, all routes are still inplace. Thanks, Joel yancey On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Joel Yancey wrote: > > > ok, i boot up with the boot.flp, run the upgrade (or novice installion, > > tried them both) and it runs great, until the FTP, then it ALWAYS stops > > at 1225100, and then if you wait a VERY long time, like an hour, it'll > > possible get more, or it'll timeout and hang up. most of the time it > > times out, and asks me if i want to try to get more, and i answer yes, it > > gets the doc, although it pauses about every meg or so, and then it goes > > on. > > Hm. ftp.freebsd.org is pretty loaded right now, it may be hanging on a > new 'get' command. Or your link may be timing out at just that point. Is > this in the bindist? > > Take a look at the debug screen (ALT-F2) and look for any errors. > > > the first part of my install my com2 wouldnt work, and com1 i cant use > > becuase for some reason i always loose my route to my ISP. but i got that > > working fine as of now, but a friend of mine also had to swtch com ports > > from 1 to 2 instead of like me 2 to 1, because it would talk to the > > modem, on neither of our computers. > > This is due to a misconfiguration of the sio ports or your BIOS. FreeBSD > uses the standard settings for the sio ports and if they don't probe then > your BIOS was changed. > > Nothing can conflict with the sio devices. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 15:13:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA29893 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA29875 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA11125; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:12:47 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:12:46 -0600 (MDT) From: Joel Yancey To: Superuser cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5R installation troubles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk well, i did the same exact thin with 2.1R and i never had any troubles, so i dont think thats it. and i've done abotu 3-4 full installs on 2.1R so i know what im supposed to do, even though i went ahead and read everything i could find on installing and troubles shooting the install on 2.1.5R. Thanks anyways, Joel yancey On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Superuser wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Joel Yancey wrote: > > ok, i boot up with the boot.flp, run the upgrade (or novice installion, > > tried them both) and it runs great, until the FTP, then it ALWAYS stops > > at 1225100, and then if you wait a VERY long time, like an hour, it'll > > possible get more, or it'll timeout and hang up. most of the time it > > times out, and asks me if i want to try to get more, and i answer yes, it > > gets the doc, although it pauses about every meg or so, and then it goes > > > This is the same problem the 2.1R install has - I do machines from a > machine on my ethernet - Ive noted that if I do an ftp install from a > different subnet it will stop at the same point - but if the same subnet, > no problem. So I believe it to be some form of tcp/ip problem. > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 15:13:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA29911 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA29900 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA03182; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:12:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: David McNab cc: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov, black@MR.Net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: can't delete rcp In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:17:37 PDT." <199607161817.LAA03277@baygate.bayarea.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:12:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3178.837555161@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David McNab wrote in message ID <199607161817.LAA03277@baygate.bayarea.net>: > This "flags" thing looks like an abomination to > me. What is the rationale behind it, and where did it > come from? Simple. Security. If you add a `schg' (system immutable) flag to a file, then increase the kernel security level (currently -1 as it causes problems in some situations) to be 1 or more, then you CANNOT remove the flag and CANNOT change the binary without booting single user. So if you set schg on all the system binaries, and run at a higher security level on your servers, the security is increased quite a bit ... of course, even this should make you sleep easy at nights if you haven't taken other precautions too... Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 15:16:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00569 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (root@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00554 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA02400; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:16:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:16:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: Maksim Stolyarov cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (Re: 2.1.5-R 700?) In-Reply-To: <198707162043.AAA03158@td.lpi.ac.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 17 Jul 1987, Maksim Stolyarov wrote: > > Thanx a lot for the info. I'm sitting (better working) and > waiting for 755 ;-) ... > Good luck and best regards, > Maksim. > My ftp install of 2.1.5 went without a hitch! I was more than suprized :) Mike ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 15:17:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00692 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00682 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA11199; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:17:33 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:17:32 -0600 (MDT) From: Joel Yancey To: Raymond Dobbs cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot get FreeBSD 2.1.5 RELEASE In-Reply-To: <31EB9619.66EE@IBM.NET> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk it's not up now, you'll have to wait for it to be re-released, something was wrong with it. See ya joel yancey On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Raymond Dobbs wrote: > To Whom It May Concern; > I was trying to find the 2.1.5 version of FreeBSD. But when I go to your FTP > site, it says there is no such directory. 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From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 15:21:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01227 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01220 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA11258; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:21:23 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:21:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Joel Yancey To: john goerzen cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ideas on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hey, as far as the DOS EMU i hear their going to port BSDI's DOS EMU for BSDOS which by far, is WAY better then the linux DOSEMU. and the linux one is fair. if you wait around a bit, it'll pop up im sure. But i dont know if this is a rumor or not, if anyone knows about this, could ya send me somethign on it? cya joel yancey On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, john goerzen wrote: > NOTE: please CC a copy of replie to me via e-mail (jgoerzen@cs.twsu.edu or > jgoerzen@complete.org) as I am no longer subscribed to this list. > > Let me give a bit of background info first. I have been using FreeBSD on > my computer since last November, when I switched to it from OS/2. I had > really enjoyed the OS, but there was one problem, and it seemed to get > bigger as I went along: there was no good way to run DOS programs except > by actually booting DOS. Put another way, there was no decent DOS > emulation in FreeBSD. > > I am the first to agree that there is a lot of quality Unix software out > there. But the fact is that there are some DOS programs that just don't > have Unix equivolents, and this is what has caused me to turn to Linux. > A few weeks ago, I put Debian 1.1 (Linux kernel 2.0.0) on my system. > > The thing I miss most about FreeBSD is that it has very few bugs, when > compared to Linux. (Except in the PPP area, esp. demand dialing) Linux > has some bugs esp. with the display system. > > But looking at Debian, I see a much better package system that FreeBSD > has. It is easier to use, and has more power. The kernel compilation > was particularly nice. (It has a nice "dialog" type of configuration, > with online help, rather than making you generate your config file by > hand like in FreeBSD). > > Also, the Debian system allows PPP install, which FreeBSD does too. But > Debian is much more resistant to problems (I unfortunately use an ISP > that is not exactly reliable) Debian's install program is very nice. It > will automatically configure a lot of stuff for you, and some packages > even come with a nice script to prompt you for the info it needs to > configure it. > > I have been using FreeBSD and waiting for DOS emulation to come out. I > remember the excitement when FreeBSD was supposed to get BSDI's DOS > emulator. And FreeBSD got it. But what happened? Nobody actually > ported it to FreeBSD! It's just sitting there. (Before somebody tells > me to "port it yourself", I have neither the expertise nor the computer > to do that) > > So why am I writing this? I am trying to provide some constructive > criticism concerning FreeBSD. I hope that by pointing out some flaws in > FreeBSD, they can be fixed, and will benefit everyone. > > I also wanted to let people know why I left the FreeBSD camp, so that > perhaps those specific problems can be fixed so others don't leave as well. > > I believe that FreeBSD is a very nice operating system, probably the most > stable OS I've ever used, but, IMHO, it sacrifices too much to attain > that level. For instance, it would seem to me that it wouldn't be too > hard to make certain things be optional in the kernel config. If > somebody wants the most stable FreeBSD they can get, they leave some > things out. Otherwise, they can get some other features like DOS > emulation, etc. > > Best regards, > John Goerzen > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 15:25:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01627 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.trifecta.com (www.trifecta.com [206.245.150.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01616 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dev@localhost) by www.trifecta.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id SAA23554; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:23:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Dev Chanchani To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Securelevel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have recently found out about, and started playing with the FreeBSD securelevel. I was wondering if anyone could point me to some documentation. I searched the handbook and the FAQs, as well as a net search and nothing :( Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dev Chanchani http://www.interactive.trifecta.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 15:38:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA02819 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA02809 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stuyts by ns.NL.net via EUnet id AA20239 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:23:49 +0200 Received: by daneel.stuyts.nl (NX5.67f2/daneel940629) id AA25913; Tue, 16 Jul 96 23:59:43 +0200 Message-Id: <9607162159.AA25913@daneel.stuyts.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ben Stuyts Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 23:59:37 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5R: UUCP errors, no flow control? Reply-To: ben@stuyts.nl References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Ben Stuyts wrote: > > First of all, I am new to FreeBSD, but am very impressed with what I've seen > so far. I have a little problem though: I am setting up a system with 2.1.5R, > and I can't get UUCP to work properly. > > There is an external modem (ZyXEL 1496E+) on cuaa1, and I am trying to > connect with another system through UUCP. Outgoing files go just fine, but > incoming files give lots of NAK's, checksum errors, etc. I do not see any > RTS/CTS flow control (I have one of those little RS232 tester on the rs232 > port), so I suspect it must be related to that. > > I would suspect your modem isn't set to assert hardware flow control then. > Adjust your modem as necessary and see if that helps. > > Or your cable is incomplete; make sure to get a complete serial cable that > supports hardware flow control. Well, I checked both today, even tried two other modems (another ZyXEL 1496E+ and a 2864), but still no good. Finally I disabled the two rs232 ports in the motherboard's bios, and put in an old isa-card with two 16450's and an LPT on it. Voila, it works... The funny thing is, I still don't see any flow control, but the errors are gone. Strange, huh? Could it be that the 16550 drivers are buggy? I guess I could try building a kernel with the 16550 features disabled, or is there an easier way to check this? Now, I wanted those additional ports anyway, but I read somewhere that that's not possible due to the pc's com port irq sharing, right? Best regards, Ben From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 15:44:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA03496 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA03491 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA05028; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:43:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Dev Chanchani cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Securelevel In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:23:36 EDT." Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:43:08 -0400 Message-ID: <5025.837556988@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dev Chanchani wrote in message ID : > I have recently found out about, and started playing with the FreeBSD > securelevel. I was wondering if anyone could point me to some > documentation. I searched the handbook and the FAQs, as well as a net > search and nothing :( Any help would be greatly appreciated. man 8 init Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 15:45:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA03671 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamespot.com (ns1.gamespot.com [206.169.18.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA03306 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tech-a.gamespot.com (tech-a.gamespot.com [206.169.18.59]) by gamespot.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA14206 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:32:20 GMT Message-Id: <199607161532.PAA14206@gamespot.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ian Kallen" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:37:19 +0000 Subject: increasing nfile setting? Reply-to: ian@gamespot.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I get errors that the file table is full when I have too many httpd processes running -- I've also seen this error when the mail queue grows excessively. I'm aware that some UNIX flavors have reconfiguration scripts for adjusting parameters such as nfiles -- I guess I need to build a bigger kernel but I'm not sure where to look! I'm using 2.1.0 off the CD (I'd like to migrate to 2.1.5 so I can get past the damn sysconfig bug that is preventing me from adding another disk but with the worries about support for the 3c509 I guess I'm SOL). Anyway, steps to be taken to tweak the nfiles parameter (at least that's what I'm told I need to do) would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Ian Kallen ian@gamespot.com Director of Technology & Web Administration http://www.gamespot.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 15:53:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05458 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riverside.mr.net (root@Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05432 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galileo.mr.net by riverside.mr.net (8.7.5/SMI-4.1.R931202) id RAA18220; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:52:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from black@localhost) by galileo.mr.net (8.7.2/8.7.2) id RAA15927; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:52:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Ben Black Message-Id: <199607162252.RAA15927@galileo.mr.net> Subject: Re: That !@#$%^& AMI motherboard To: bill@thuvia.qstools.com (Bill Cox) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:52:46 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607162218.PAA14430@thuvia.qstools.com> from "Bill Cox" at Jul 16, 96 03:18:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk correct me if i'm wrong, but i recall that the P5 (not the P6) requires a special version as the second CPU. some sort of additional silicon to let it act as a slave to the normal CPU. perhaps a call to intel would be in order. Ben black@mr.net ps - thanks to everyone who responded to my chflags question. the security uses of the command were most welcome. > > > I'm *still* trying to find a pair of Pentia running at > about 120-150 MHz, which will cooperate on my board. > The board *which you should avoid* is an AMI Titan II. > There's now a Titan III and I think that I know why... > Part of the trouble is the AMI support people, who give > different answers on different days. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 15:56:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06009 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05996 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29648; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:55:57 GMT Message-Id: <199607162255.WAA29648@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA123287788; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:56:28 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:56:28 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: dev@trifecta.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: (message from Dev Chanchani on Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:23:36 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: Securelevel Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Dev" == Dev Chanchani writes: Dev> I was wondering if anyone could point me Dev> to some documentation. I searched the handbook and the FAQs, Dev> as well as a net search and nothing :( Any help would be Dev> greatly appreciated. I haven't seen any docs either ... but you'd be more than welcome to volunteer to write some! :-) -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 16:05:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA07884 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.generation.net (darkshad@smtp.Generation.NET [205.205.118.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA07877 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from darkshad@localhost) by smtp.generation.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA17007; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:05:49 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:05:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Bilodeau To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Help with PLIP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I want to know EXACTLY how connecting my DOS computer with my freebsd computer via PLIP. Thanks, Eric Bilodeau From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 16:07:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08225 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08215 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA02350; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:07:00 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607162307.QAA02350@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: group changing To: edmund@hornet.netac.co.za (Edmund Jackson) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:06:59 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Edmund Jackson" at Jul 16, 96 08:59:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hoes do you change a user's group have them execute setgid()if they are already a member of the group. If you want to change their logon default group, edit their GID field in the /etc/passwd file using vipw as root. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 16:10:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08667 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.rutgers.edu (pegasus.rutgers.edu [128.6.10.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08654 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wasteland (radon-asy-5.rutgers.edu [128.6.53.36]) by pegasus.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.5) with SMTP id TAA27801; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:10:08 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960717031112.002cb818@pegasus.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: paradox@pegasus.rutgers.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:11:12 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Red Barchetta Subject: master.passwd vs. shadow? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been a UNIX user for about 2 years now, but I just recently installed FreeBSD on my own system. I do quite a bit of work on Sparcs, so I am familiar with the concept of a shadowed passwd file, and it appears to me that the FreeBSD system, which keeps the "meaningful" passwords in master.passwd and makes it readable only to root. Can someone explain to me just how this is implemented? It seems to be done by default, which shadowing usually isn't, so I am curious as to the differences between the two. I can't seem to find this covered in the FAQ, and the Handbook security section doesn't even mention master.passwd (unless I need new glasses ;) ) It probably would have been better to post this to the security list, but I figured it might be considered "common knowledge" there. Thanks for the info! Ernie Pistor From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 16:15:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA09552 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09545 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA02426; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:13:40 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607162313.QAA02426@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Printing probs. under a new 2.1 installation To: E00114@vnet.atea.be (Rob Schofield) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:13:40 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Rob Schofield" at Jul 16, 96 12:42:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Installed in there is a parallel printer port designated LPT1: under DOS, > registered and correctly configured under the EISA config scheme. Hanging on > the end of the cable is a brand-spanking new HP LaserJet 5L (I know, it was > all I could afford) with PCL (V6.0?). Under DOS, it prints OK, likewise Win > 3.11 WFW. It also prints from Win NT with no probs. As root, type: # dmesg | grep lpt I get output like: lpt0 at 0x278-0x27f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port Indicating that, despite what DOS thinks, my port is /dev/lpt0. You may have to boot -v; there may be a probe conflict message from having other hardware (generally, things like sound cards) at the same address, causing the parallel port to be unusable. You may need to rejumper one or more devices to make it work. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 16:27:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA11449 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA11440 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA02494; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:26:28 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607162326.QAA02494@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: That !@#$%^& AMI motherboard To: black@MR.Net (Ben Black) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:26:28 -0700 (MST) Cc: bill@thuvia.qstools.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607162252.RAA15927@galileo.mr.net> from "Ben Black" at Jul 16, 96 05:52:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > correct me if i'm wrong, but i recall that the P5 (not the P6) requires a > special version as the second CPU. some sort of additional silicon to let it > act as a slave to the normal CPU. perhaps a call to intel would be in order. > > Ben > black@mr.net > > > ps - thanks to everyone who responded to my chflags question. the security > uses of the command were most welcome. > > I'm *still* trying to find a pair of Pentia running at > > about 120-150 MHz, which will cooperate on my board. > > The board *which you should avoid* is an AMI Titan II. > > There's now a Titan III and I think that I know why... > > Part of the trouble is the AMI support people, who give > > different answers on different days. Intel Multiprocessing specification compliance requires a part with an APIC. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 17:14:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA20159 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19996 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br (clpc1.compuland.com.br [200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id VAA13589 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:13:24 -0300 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:13:24 -0300 Message-Id: <199607170013.VAA13589@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: P75 AMD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: Does anyone tryed to install FreeBSD in those AMD P133 ? Thanks! Helio. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 17:32:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA23150 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phs.k12.ar.us (garman@phs.k12.ar.us [165.29.117.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA23127 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (garman@localhost) by phs.k12.ar.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA24545; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:31:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:31:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Garman To: Steve Emmert cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Comm port trouble in 2.1.5 install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Steve Emmert wrote: > Hi, > > Made a boot floppy of 2.1.5 -RELEASE to show my buddy how cool FreeBSD is! > When I selected FTP install and COM 2 (/dev/cuaa1) then went to iij-ppp > the modem would not respond to "at". I then did a "show modem" and found > the device set to COM 1 (/dev/cuaa0). No amount of hacking with the option > selections or "set device" in iij-ppp would work to get the modem on-line > even when "show modem" displayed /dev/cuaa1. I took the disk back home and > tried it on my system with the same results. I even FTP'ed a new boot.flp > but nothing seems to work. My old 2.1 boot floppy works but a 2.2 -SNAP > boot floppy fails too. > I got bitten by his one too. A workaround that I found was to select "com 1" from the install menu, and do a set device /dev/cuaa1 from iij-ppp. It took me several hours of continuous head-banging to figure this out :-) It seems that if you do a 'term' with one device open and then change it with "set device" it ignores the change, which was really annoying me at the beginning... -- Jason From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 17:34:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA23767 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA23747 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA03838 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:34:42 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA00935; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:28:44 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607170028.RAA00935@starshine> Subject: Re: 2.1.5R: UUCP errors, no flow control? To: ben@stuyts.nl Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9607162159.AA25913@daneel.stuyts.nl> from "Ben Stuyts" at Jul 16, 96 11:59:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > > > On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Ben Stuyts wrote: > > > > First of all, I am new to FreeBSD, but am very impressed with what I've seen > > so far. I have a little problem though: I am setting up a system with 2.1.5R, > > and I can't get UUCP to work properly. > Well, I checked both today, even tried two other modems (another ZyXEL 1496E+ > and a 2864), but still no good. > > Finally I disabled the two rs232 ports in the motherboard's bios, and put in > an old isa-card with two 16450's and an LPT on it. Voila, it works... The > funny thing is, I still don't see any flow control, but the errors are gone. > Strange, huh? Could it be that the 16550 drivers are buggy? I guess I could > try building a kernel with the 16550 features disabled, or is there an easier > way to check this? > > Now, I wanted those additional ports anyway, but I read somewhere that that's > not possible due to the pc's com port irq sharing, right? > Ben It is possible to have have 4 "normal" (conventional) COM ports on a PC. Yes, by default, these are arranged with an IRQ conflict. However that is a simple matter to fix (with most good I/O cards). For example in my 386 (from which I type this) I'm using a QuickPath "Portfolio" multi-function I/O card. In addition to two IDE channels, two PRN ports, and a floppy controller and a game port, this has four high speed (16550AFN) serial ports with individually configurable I/O port addresses and IRQ's. I suggest IRQ 5 for COM3 and IRQ 9, 10, 11, or 12 for COM4. Naturally it's also possible to get specialized serial hardware (such as the Cyclades, RocketPort, Digi PC/8, etc). I've connected 128 serial ports on a single system (using intelligent DigiBoard hardware with TSX-32/TSX-BBS software). I know that the Cyclades people agressively market to Unix (Linux and FreeBSD) users and provide plenty of support to people who write the drivers. Jim Dennis, Starshine Technical Services, From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 18:13:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA28444 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA28436 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA08377 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@FreeBSD.org); Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:12:14 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA00963; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:41:19 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607170041.RAA00963@starshine> Subject: Re: can't delete rcp To: mcnab@bayarea.net Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Cc: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov, black@mr.net, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607161817.LAA03277@baygate.bayarea.net> from "David McNab" at Jul 16, 96 11:17:37 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Sean Kelly wrote: > |>>>>> "Ben" == Ben Black writes: > | > | Ben> i tried unlinking the thing, cat /dev/null onto it...what > | Ben> simple thing am i missing? > | > | chflags noschg rcp > > I haven't been around here very long, so if this > has been discussed to death please pardon me for > bringing it up. > > This "flags" thing looks like an abomination to > me. What is the rationale behind it, and where did it > come from? > > -- Dave McNab I use it on every system I put together (using 'chattr +i' on my Linux systems). I'll at the sysctl/securitylevel stuff to my new ones from now on (does Linux have a corresponding feature)? One question I do have about chflags -- I haven't seen a corresponding 'lsflags' or any way to query the fs for information about which flags are set. Is there one? How to I find out the flags state without changing them? Jim Dennis, Starshine Technical Services, From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 18:36:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA00785 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cyberstreet.com (pegasus.cyberstreet.com [204.117.207.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA00780 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magicshop2.cyberstreet.com ([204.117.207.98]) by mail.cyberstreet.com (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 114-12414) with SMTP id AAA242 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:40:33 -0400 Message-ID: <31EC446D.3D96@mail.cyberstreet.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:39:57 -0400 From: Walter Peterson Organization: CyberStreet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Network Permissions X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook143.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a freebsd box that I allow Rlogin and telnet sessions on. I have granted permission to use the program traceroute to the group these people are in. When I try to use this command when not logged in as root I egt an error, imcp socket: Permission denied. How do I grant permission to use this command? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 18:39:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA01061 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cyberstreet.com (pegasus.cyberstreet.com [204.117.207.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01054 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magicshop2.cyberstreet.com ([204.117.207.98]) by mail.cyberstreet.com (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 114-12414) with SMTP id AAA61 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:44:11 -0400 Message-ID: <31EC4547.FDA@cyberstreet.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:43:35 -0400 From: Walter Peterson Organization: CyberStreet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Network Permissions (duplicate with correct return address) X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook143.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a freebsd box that I allow Rlogin and telnet sessions on. I have granted permission to use the program traceroute to the group these people are in. When I try to use this command when not logged in as root I egt an error, imcp socket: Permission denied. How do I grant permission to use this command? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 18:58:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA02557 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer26.u.washington.edu (durang@homer26.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA02550 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer26.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27860; Tue, 16 Jul 96 18:58:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:58:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: MAKEDEV making symbolic link, not mouse dev. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to get my mouse going so I can run Xwindows. My mouse comes up in dmesg as: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa I don't know where I got this, but I suspect the device file to be tty00 or mouse. However, if I do "/dev/MAKEDEV tty00" then /dev/tty00 is NOT created, and no error message is given. If I try "/dev/MAKEDEV mouse" then a symbolic link, /dev/mouse is created, linked to ITSELF.... Thanks to all those who responded to my fstab problem, it works fine now. Thanks in advance to any who will shed light on my mouse dilemma. Ken Marsh From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 19:07:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03405 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA03395 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA08935; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607170207.TAA08935@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Tony Magner" cc: questions@freebsd.ORG Subject: Re: FTPD not loading on FBSD 2.1.1 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:03:38 EDT." <31eba1902b14002@cpmx.mail.saic.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:07:38 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I hope somebody can help me! > >My BSD system has been running flawlessly for months until this past >weekend sometime. What has happened now is that ftpd, telnetd, and Samba >will not load. Even manually starting ftpd results in errors about >getpeername and getsockname. I'm using wu-ftpd 2.4. Any ideas? Think >the host table or maybe the kernel got screwed up? Please help as I'm >desparate. You can't start ftpd manually. It is written to be spawned from inetd and is expecting to inherit the socket file descriptor on stdin/stdout. It sounds like you're not starting inetd anymore in your /etc/rc file. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 19:09:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03502 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA03497 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA27620; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:09:12 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:09:12 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607170209.UAA27620@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Ken Marsh Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MAKEDEV making symbolic link, not mouse dev. In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am trying to get my mouse going so I can run Xwindows. My mouse comes up > in dmesg as: > > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa > > I don't know where I got this, but I suspect the device file to be tty00 > or mouse. However, if I do "/dev/MAKEDEV tty00" then /dev/tty00 is NOT > created, and no error message is given. If I try "/dev/MAKEDEV mouse" then > a symbolic link, /dev/mouse is created, linked to ITSELF.... I don't know why the 'mouse' target exists in MAKEDEV, but that' irrelevant. In any case, if you do a 'man sio', you'll see: FILES /dev/ttyd? for callin ports /dev/ttyid? /dev/ttyld? corresponding callin initial-state and lock-state devices /dev/cuaa? for callout ports /dev/cuaia? /dev/cuala? corresponding callout initial-state and lock-state devices /etc/rc.serial examples of setting the initial-state and lock-state de- vices So, since the mouse 'calls in' (sends data to the system), you would use /dev/ttyd?, where ? is the device number of the port, in your case it would be /dev/ttyd0. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 19:09:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03518 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer26.u.washington.edu (durang@homer26.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA03496 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer26.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA148626; Tue, 16 Jul 96 19:09:10 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:09:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: questions@Freebsd.org Subject: Are there any Freebsd books? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@Freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am aware of the Freebsd Documentation project, and although it has been quite helpful, it is not nearly complete. Is there any book that covers elements of BSD such as what rc files are, how tar knows where to put the extracted files, and what exactly MAKEDEV does, and what devices can it make? I have so many questions that I am left to hypothesize about. Far too many to send to questions@Freebsd.org. I have seen Berkleys BSD4.4 books, but they look to me like a hard copy of all the man pages. This isn't sufficient for a rooky like me. For example, even "apropose tgz" does not bring up any man pages. I was left to wonder what a .tgz file was until I stumbled upon the tar command. If anyone knows of a FreeBSD book that will cover more than what man covers, please let me know! Thanks, Ken Marsh From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 19:10:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03664 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns1.noc.best.net (root@dns1.noc.best.net [206.86.8.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA03654 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA12566; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:10:40 -0700 Received: from free.emmert.com (emmert.vip.best.com [204.156.142.218]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA26378; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:56:39 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:56:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Emmert To: Jason Garman cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Comm port trouble in 2.1.5 install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Jason Garman wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Steve Emmert wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Made a boot floppy of 2.1.5 -RELEASE to show my buddy how cool FreeBSD is! > > When I selected FTP install and COM 2 (/dev/cuaa1) then went to iij-ppp > > the modem would not respond to "at". I then did a "show modem" and found > > the device set to COM 1 (/dev/cuaa0). No amount of hacking with the option > > selections or "set device" in iij-ppp would work to get the modem on-line > > even when "show modem" displayed /dev/cuaa1. I took the disk back home and > > tried it on my system with the same results. I even FTP'ed a new boot.flp > > but nothing seems to work. My old 2.1 boot floppy works but a 2.2 -SNAP > > boot floppy fails too. > > > I got bitten by his one too. A workaround that I found was to select "com > 1" from the install menu, and do a set device /dev/cuaa1 from iij-ppp. It > took me several hours of continuous head-banging to figure this out :-) > > It seems that if you do a 'term' with one device open and then change it > with "set device" it ignores the change, which was really annoying me at > the beginning... > > -- Jason That did the trick 8-) thanks, now when Jordan changes the premissions back to 755 on 2.1.5 -RELEASE, we'll get this mother installed!! --Steve Steve Emmert steve@emmert.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the designers of X Windows built cars, there would be no fewer than five steering wheels hidden about the cockpit, none of which followed the same principles---but you'd be able to shift gears with your car stereo. Useful feature, that. -Marcus J. Ranum From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 19:19:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA04292 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA04287 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA09018; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607170219.TAA09018@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Robert Clark cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: FW: In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:43:00 PDT." <31EBC6E0@smtp> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:19:20 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The ix0 driver is for the EtherExpress 16. > > EtherExpress (ix driver.) > Pro-10 (No driver.) > Flash32 (No driver.) > Pro-100 Rev A (No driver.) > Pro-100 Rev B (fpx driver.) ^^^ fxp > > I used an EtherExpress-16 for awhile, and had trouble. I found that >there were lots of old (16bit) Western Digital cards around, and switched >over to running the ed0 driver instead. > > Questions to anyone: Do the NE2000 cards work as well as the old SMC/WD >cards? It puts more load on the machine, but should perform similarly. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 19:24:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA04678 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agony.vip.best.com (agony.vip.best.com [206.86.9.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA04649 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from winter@localhost) by agony.vip.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00226; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:20:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:20:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuclear Winter To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Slow transfers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I searched the mailing list archives and couldn't seem to find an answer to this problem. I'm having rather slow transfer rates across my 28.8 PPP connection. I'm using iijppp to establish my connections and have no problems with my modem. I'm assuming I've overlooked something in my configuration somewhere. Any helpful input would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Nuclear Winter (winter@agony.vip.best.com) -- "Albeit unseen, albeit unveiled -- There's a troublemaker hiding heavy secrets" From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 19:36:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA05756 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer23.u.washington.edu (durang@homer23.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA05713 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer23.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11540; Tue, 16 Jul 96 19:35:51 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:35:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: Nate Williams Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MAKEDEV making symbolic link, not mouse dev. In-Reply-To: <199607170209.UAA27620@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa > > > > I don't know where I got this, but I suspect the device file to be tty00 > > or mouse. However, if I do "/dev/MAKEDEV tty00" then /dev/tty00 is NOT > > created, and no error message is given. If I try "/dev/MAKEDEV mouse" then > > a symbolic link, /dev/mouse is created, linked to ITSELF.... > > I don't know why the 'mouse' target exists in MAKEDEV, but that' > irrelevant. > > In any case, if you do a 'man sio', you'll see: > > FILES > /dev/ttyd? for callin ports > /dev/ttyid? > /dev/ttyld? corresponding callin initial-state and lock-state > > So, since the mouse 'calls in' (sends data to the system), you would use > /dev/ttyd?, where ? is the device number of the port, in your case it > would be /dev/ttyd0. I have the device now. I can't test it in Xwin because I still have problems with XF86Config. (See other mail from me re: XF86Config) The FreeBSD documentation at : http://xfree86.pacificrim.net/XFree86/3.1.1/FreeBSD-4.html suggests that I use "cat < /dev/tty00" (in my case "cat < /dev/ttyd0") to test the mouse by "just make(ing) sure that it generates output when the mouse is moved or clicked" When I do "cat < /dev/ttyd0" the mouse does not generate any output visible on the screen. When redirected to a file, the file remains empty. Also, Cntl-D has no effect, so I have to switch to another virtual terminal to terminate the process with a kill command. Does this mean that ttyd0 may not be the right device after all? Thanks again. Ken Marsh From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 19:36:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA05768 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05706 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA09056; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607170235.TAA09056@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Blair Schmittel cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD box talking slowly In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:32:37 MDT." <199607162032.OAA17233@strech.cyber-naut.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:35:50 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >At 12:18 AM 7/16/96 -0700, you wrote: >>>Hello; >>> >>>I have a FreeBSD 2.1R box with a 3Com card in it. When I ping from it or to >>> it, I get pathetic ping times, such as 549.06. When I ping from another >>> FreeBSD box to any other computer I get ping times of about 0.880. >>> >>>What would cause one of my boxes to ping so slowly? When I telnet from it to >>> another host, it is also very slow. Both FreeBSD boxes are on the same >>> ethernet, one works fine, while the other is horribly slow. I've checked >>> the calbes, etc. they seem to work fine. >> >> This can happen if you don't have the irq set correctly for the card. Check >>that the irq setting in the kernel matches the setting on the card. > > >That's not the problem.. It's definately an interrupt related problem (or a defective card). > Get this, if I let ping run, each ping decreases >in time by 10ms. It starts at about 170ms, then goes to about 10ms after >several pings. After 10ms, it jumps up to 1,000ms. It still talks slow. I >checked the IRQ and the card matches the kernel, I disabled every device >which used IRQ 10 also, nothing seems to help... This is happening because the ep driver has a 1 second timer set that will check for incoming packets even if it didn't get an interrupt from the card. The timer goes off every second, so when your ping responses happen to come in close to the timer expiration, the round-trip time is low. When they just miss the timer, it's close to 1 second before the timer goes off again. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 19:41:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA06242 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer23.u.washington.edu (durang@homer23.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA06234 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer23.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA39997; Tue, 16 Jul 96 19:41:08 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:41:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: XF86Config and my monitor docs. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a Sony trinitron multiscan HG, model CPD-1304. I looked in the documents to find the verticle and horizontal timing figures, and found that my documents show figures that are completely different from the parameters needed in XF86Config. My docs show Period, sync, b.p., and display..... Not disp, syncstart, syncend, and total as required in the XF86Config file. Is there a relation between these figures? Should I contact Sony? Should I use the defaults? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ken Marsh From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 19:54:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA07320 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atropos.c2.org (atropos.c2.org [140.174.185.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07314 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sameer@localhost) by atropos.c2.org (8.7.4/CSUA) id TAA07399; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607170254.TAA07399@atropos.c2.org> Subject: Re: Are there any Freebsd books? To: durang@u.washington.edu (Ken Marsh) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Ken Marsh" at Jul 16, 96 07:09:10 pm From: sameer X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > If anyone knows of a FreeBSD book that will cover more than what man > covers, please let me know! The Design and Implementation of BSD 4.4 might be valuable. -- Sameer Parekh Voice: 510-986-8770 Community ConneXion, Inc. FAX: 510-986-8777 The Internet Privacy Provider http://www.c2.net/ sameer@c2.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 19:59:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA07886 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer05.u.washington.edu (durang@homer05.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA07878 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer05.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA34622; Tue, 16 Jul 96 19:59:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:59:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: sameer Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are there any Freebsd books? In-Reply-To: <199607170254.TAA07399@atropos.c2.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think I've seen this one... In hard cover, right? It's a little over my head. When I read it, I feel like it might be just as clear to read the kernel source code. I'll go look at it again, though. I've learned alot in the past couple of weeks. Thanks for the suggestion! On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, sameer wrote: > The Design and Implementation of BSD 4.4 might be valuable. > > -- > Sameer Parekh Voice: 510-986-8770 > Community ConneXion, Inc. FAX: 510-986-8777 > The Internet Privacy Provider > http://www.c2.net/ sameer@c2.net > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 20:01:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA08123 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer05.u.washington.edu (durang@homer05.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA08111 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer05.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA87405; Tue, 16 Jul 96 20:01:11 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:01:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: Charlie Root Cc: questions@freeBSD.org Subject: Re: MAKEDEV making symbolic link, not mouse dev. In-Reply-To: <199607170239.WAA04561@rhiannon.scsn.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I am trying to get my mouse going so I can run Xwindows. My mouse comes up > > in dmesg as: > > > > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa > > > > I don't know where I got this, but I suspect the device file to be tty00 > > or mouse. However, if I do "/dev/MAKEDEV tty00" then /dev/tty00 is NOT > > created, and no error message is given. If I try "/dev/MAKEDEV mouse" then > > a symbolic link, /dev/mouse is created, linked to ITSELF.... > > > > Thanks to all those who responded to my fstab problem, it works fine now. > > Thanks in advance to any who will shed light on my mouse dilemma. > > The device you want is /dev/cuaa0. I have /dev/mouse as a symbolic link > to /dev/cuaa0. Hope this helps... It did. Many thanks to Charlie Root! From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 20:20:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA09962 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA09952 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA00727; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:20:23 GMT Message-Id: <199607170320.DAA00727@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA129693655; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:20:55 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:20:55 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: durang@u.washington.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Ken Marsh on Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:58:38 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: MAKEDEV making symbolic link, not mouse dev. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Ken" == Ken Marsh writes: Ken> I don't know where I got this, but I suspect the device file Ken> to be tty00 or mouse. However, if I do "/dev/MAKEDEV tty00" Ken> then /dev/tty00 is NOT created, and no error message is Ken> given. You want to do cd /dev ./MAKEDEV ttyd0 cuaa0 But those should both already exist. Then specify Device "/dev/ttyd0" in the "Pointer" section of your XF86Config file. If for some reason ttyd0 doesn't work, then use Device "/dev/cuaa0" -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 20:57:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA12660 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12649 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA00898; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:57:34 GMT Message-Id: <199607170357.DAA00898@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA131155886; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:58:06 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:58:06 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: durang@u.washington.edu Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: (message from Ken Marsh on Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:09:10 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Are there any Freebsd books? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Ken" == Ken Marsh writes: Ken> I am aware of the Freebsd Documentation project, and although Ken> it has been quite helpful, Yay!!! :-) Ken> it is not nearly complete. Waaaa!!! :-( Ken> Is there any book that covers elements of BSD such as what rc Ken> files are, how tar knows where to put the extracted files, Ken> and what exactly MAKEDEV does, and what devices can it make? I'm not sure if such a text even exists. I'm not sure what books to recommend as substitutes either. Maybe _The Unix Programming Environment_ by Kernigan and Pike (although it's a bit dated), and _Unix System Administration_ by Nemeth et al (quite good). _Unix Power Tools_ by Peek, O'Reilly, and Loukides also also a lot of information on tar and what not. I learned most of this stuff through experience and by reading the man pages. And by asking around. After eight years hanging around Unix, these things just become second nature. Just ask! rc files: if you mean /etc/rc and it brethren, these are just shell scripts that are executed by a Bourne shell for system initialization. The _Unix Programming Environment_ has a lot on Bourne shell programming, also see sh(1). If you mean .cshrc, .mailrc, then just see their appropriate man pages: csh(1), mail(1), etc. How tar knows where to put extracted files: tar extracts files relative to the current directory. If the tar archive contains a, a/b, a/c, a/d/e, f, and g, then tar will make a a/b a/c a/d/e f g right in the current directory. Tar archives can also contain full pathnames, like /a/b/c, so no matter what directory you're in it'll always extact /a/b/c. tar also supports the -C option, which specifies what the current directory should be for extractions. So, tar -C is sort of like: cd tar What MAKEDEV does: it's basically a wrapper around mknod. What mknod does: it makes special entries in the filesystem that represent entry points into the kernel's device drivers. Each node made with mknod has a major number, which represents the device driver. For example, number 4 is the SCSI disk driver, 28 is the terminal driver. There's also a minor number, which usually represents which device is handled by the driver. For example, 0 is the first SCSI disk, 8 is the second SCSI disk. 1..7 are other partitions in the first SCSI disk. Ken> I have so many questions that I am left to hypothesize Ken> about. Far too many to send to questions@Freebsd.org. Just ask 'em. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 21:06:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA14163 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14148 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA00954; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 04:06:32 GMT Message-Id: <199607170406.EAA00954@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA131326424; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:07:04 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:07:04 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: durang@u.washington.edu Cc: nate@mt.sri.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Ken Marsh on Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:35:51 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: MAKEDEV making symbolic link, not mouse dev. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Ken" == Ken Marsh writes: Ken> When I do "cat < /dev/ttyd0" the mouse does not generate any Ken> output visible on the screen. Try "cat -v /dev/ttyd0" ... or better yet, make an entry for the mouse in /etc/remote. Try the following: mouse:dv=/dev/ttyd0:br#1200:pa=none Then run "tip mouse" and then move the mouse around. Ken> Also, Cntl-D has no effect Use Ctrl+C. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 21:31:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA19415 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA19397 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA06260; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:19:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Ken Marsh cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Are there any Freebsd books? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk There's Greg Lehey's book, Installing and Running FreeBSD, from Walnut Creek CDROM. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 21:42:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA21415 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com (dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com [149.174.213.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA21407 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 75443,2506 (hd72-134.compuserve.com [199.174.248.134]) by dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA11694 Message-ID: <31EC6EB4.1A17@compuserve.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:40:20 -0400 From: Michael Jabbour <75443.2506@compuserve.com> Reply-To: 75443.2506@compuserve.com Organization: Cyber Tech, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: question-jordan-basic installation of bsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk how would i download a basic unix type enviornment (pref. win95 compatible) so i can practice unix commands and get to know xwindows? thanx a bunch, SYNAPSE cybertechinc@juno.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 22:03:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA26362 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (root@ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA26316 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-5.ime.net [206.231.148.134]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA25952; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:02:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31EC6A04.6809@ime.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:22:08 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica" CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tape drives References: <199607162005.RAA31364@unix1.ism.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica wrote: > > Hi: > > I checked J.M.Bresler page about tape drives (very good indeed!), but > what about the floppy tape drives ? They are cheap (like Colorado and Seagate), > Do they work with FreeBSD ? They worth a try ? > > Thanks! > Helio. I have a colorado floppy tape working under FreeBSD. Works fine for me, Though the driver spits out an warning here and there I have yet to have any real probs. Simple to get going.. Albiet slow. No biggie to me! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 22:08:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA26842 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA26832 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00278; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:07:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: John Mulhollen cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, John Mulhollen wrote: > Subject: installing with Intel EPro... > > For some reason, i've been unable to get freebsd 2.1-release to recognize > my EPRo card during the boot probe as device ix0. I tried to reconfigure > the card to IRQ 10, IO 300 (the default for freebsd) but still no luck.. EPro? What card is that? The EtherExpress Pro? ix0 only support the Intel EtherExpress 16. And not very well at that. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 22:30:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA28498 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28490 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00309; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:30:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Jason Chang cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (fwd) cannot create /var/spool/output/lpd/.seq In-Reply-To: <199607161546.XAA08978@ccsun10.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Jason Chang wrote: > I got this error message: cannot create /var/spool/output/lpd/.seq > everything I execute lpr. > > Would somebody please give me a hand? Try removing the file. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 22:31:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA28686 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28673 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00314; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:31:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Maksim Stolyarov cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.1.5-R 700? In-Reply-To: <198707161703.VAA02156@td.lpi.ac.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 16 Jul 1987, Maksim Stolyarov wrote: > Dear Colleagues! > I've tried to ftp 2.1.5-R today (16 July) but :-( > ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/FreeBSD/2.1.5-RELEASE has mode 700 ... Jordan must be rebuilding the release. Try again later. (It's still locked as of now) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 22:35:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA29358 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29341 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:35:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00321; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:35:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: ben@stuyts.nl cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.1.5R: UUCP errors, no flow control? In-Reply-To: <9607162159.AA25913@daneel.stuyts.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Ben Stuyts wrote: > > I would suspect your modem isn't set to assert hardware flow control then. > > Adjust your modem as necessary and see if that helps. > > Well, I checked both today, even tried two other modems (another ZyXEL 1496E+ > and a 2864), but still no good. :( > Finally I disabled the two rs232 ports in the motherboard's bios, and put in > an old isa-card with two 16450's and an LPT on it. Voila, it works... The > funny thing is, I still don't see any flow control, but the errors are gone. > Strange, huh? Could it be that the 16550 drivers are buggy? I guess I could > try building a kernel with the 16550 features disabled, or is there an easier > way to check this? Goofy. Your sio ports may be flawed. Did you poke around in BIOS setup? > Now, I wanted those additional ports anyway, but I read somewhere that that's > not possible due to the pc's com port irq sharing, right? You can't use the same IRQs. You can assign them different IRQs (like 10 & 11 assuming they aren't used for something else) and they will work. This assumes your BIOS supports such operations. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 22:40:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA00411 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00400 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00328; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:40:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Nathan Melhorn cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: Adding devices to boot.flp In-Reply-To: <9606168375.AA837534837@smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Nathan Melhorn wrote: > >> I was fairly successful adding parallel port IoMega ZipDrive > Searching the net, I found: > > http://www.torque.net/zip.html {mostly Linux ->} > http://www.prism.uvsq.fr/~son/ppa3.html {FreeBSD ->} > ftp://www.prism.uvsq.fr/~son/ppa3.c {the source} There was an annoucement in -questions that a driver had been written by Nicolas. I have to say that I am impressed that the unix community pulled it at all. > The only (other) problem is in accessing my MSDOS/FAT file systems. It > occurs both for the hard drive and now for the Zip drive -- if I get > too "busy" on the drive, the FAT structure seems to crash. When I boot > back to MS-DOS, chkdisk/scandisk shows errors which I let it repair. > It seems to happen more when fooling around with directories (vs. > ordinary files). Thus, so far I first stage data on my Unix file > systems, such as .zip and .tar.gz files, and then copy it once to an > MS-DOS file system. Is FreeBSD's MSDOS file system less solid than the > native file system, especially under heavy/multitasking load? Are > there known concurrency problems? Yes. The msdosfs is not in the best of shape. A rewrite is under development. You would be better to use the 'mtools' package for MSDOSFS maniuplations other than on floppies. > I've still to format a ZipDisk as a native Unix file system. How does it detect as? If it has an r-device you should be able to newfs it. The geometry shouldn't matter. > Oh.. too bad. My machine at work is on the net, but the machine at > home is not, and doesn't have a compatible CD-ROM drive. I'd like to > copy a release to a ZipDisk and take it home to install. I'd thus need > Zip drivers (or drivers for my CDROM) in a boot floppy. I think. I > have full sources right now -- it isn't just "cd /usr/src/floppy" and > then typing "make"? They may have revised the system BUT you have to build the mfs image with all the programs, and you have to build all those first, then actually make the mfs image, THEN a boot floppy image. Ugly stuff. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 22:45:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA00780 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM (THOR.INNOSOFT.COM [192.160.253.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00772 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:45:56 -0700 (PDT) From: ZOUNDS@INNOSOFT.COM Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #8694) id <01I75O5M3NYO8Y4Z7O@INNOSOFT.COM> for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Trident 9440 video card supported under XFree? To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01I75O5ZAO6U8Y4Z7O@INNOSOFT.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk so, is it? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 22:49:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA01421 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01416 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00344; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:48:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Antonio Binder cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: about FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <31EAC3EE.7327@gaia.swipnet.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Antonio Binder wrote: > as Hurstbourne management ltd are establishing services to our clients > in the area of Internet services and marketing, we are establishing > contacts with leading companies and products covering this matters. We > are therefore very interested in your products, and in establish a > serious business to business relation with your comapny. Thanks for your interest in FreeBSD! For business relations, contact Jordan Hubbard at . This forum (questions@FreeBSD.ORG) is a support mailing list. Feel free to post FreeBSD support questions to this list, and we'll do our best to answer them. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 22:57:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA01716 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01711 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00354; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:57:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: relliott@205.242.74.10 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compatible CD-ROM Drives for FreeBSD (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I don't think the ip address will work as an email address. On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Jamil Weatherbee wrote: > I am running FreeBSD on a 386-40sx processor which I installed by making > floppy disks from the CD to do the install. I currently do not have a > CD-ROM drive on my computer running FreeBSD and am unable to use the rest > of the software on the CD. I would like a list of models of CD-ROM drives > 2x, 4x or 6x speed which have been successfully installed and perform > efficiently. I would appreciate a list of manufacturer, location, > telephone number, models, speed and any other pertinent information. I > have been unable to locate a Matsushita CR-562 or CR-563 Probably because they are out of production. Most ATAPI drives will work with sufficient prodding (moving around on the IDE channel(s)). SCSI is a better way to go if you can afford it. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 23:22:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA02876 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r1.spb.inkom.ru (r1.spb.inkom.ru [193.232.50.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA02868 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exchange.spb.inkom.ru by r1.spb.inkom.ru with SMTP id KAA09126; (8.6.5/InkomBank/pvi/1.0) Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:31:20 +0400 Received: by exchange.spb.inkom.ru with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BB73C9.7451A8B0@exchange.spb.inkom.ru>; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:19:35 +0400 Message-ID: From: Enaaa Aiadae To: "'questions@freeBSD.org'" Subject: Shared library ld.so.2.2 ? Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:19:27 +0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 Encoding: 4 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm install FreeBSD 2.2-960612-SNAP and atempt install 'lynx', no lynx can't run with error: 'shared library ld.so.2.2 not found'. Where I'm can get this library ? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 23:34:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA03233 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03220 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00423; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:34:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Mike cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problem installing FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <31C56121.3A9@earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Mike wrote: [mega-trim] > I was trying to install BSD with /-200MB, SWAP-40MB, /usr-500MB, and /var-20MB, > starting after the extended partition. My thought after your response was that > the BSD root (/?) was not below 1024 cylinders (520MB) so I set out to delete all > partitions and start over. So, I made my new DOS primary partition 300MB, > reinstalled C drive, and tried to load BSD immediately after that partition, this time > with the slices /-200MB (so it should be under 520MB), SWAP-50MB, /usr-600MB, > /var-50MB. But, i'm getting the same response, "Failed to create root distribution". > This results after trying to install from floppy or from a DOS partition. I created my > root.flp for the floppy install in the same manner I created the boot.flp as instructed > in the docs. For the DOS partition install, the root.flp image is in the > C:\freebsd\floppies directory. Grr. Is your root.flp image OK? Did you download it in binary mode? Try pulling it again. It's wierd that BOTH DOS and floppy installs wouldn't work. I'd try 2.1.5 as soon as Jordan unlocks the directory. > > I attached the debug output, ALT-F2, for both installs (floppy and DOS partition). > From what I can tell, it's the root image that is causing a problem for both > installations, but i can't imagine why. I've tried creating the root image every way > possible, as instructed in the install.txt files etc. Except one file says to create > the root image from the makeflp.bat program, but this file is on the CD-ROM which I > obviously don't have and is not available to download from the ftp.freebsd.org site. True. makeflp.bat basically runs format a: rawrite boot.flp a: pause format a: rawrite root.flp a: 2.1.5 does away with the root floppy if that makes you feel better :) I'm still at a loss at this point. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 23:35:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA03288 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03283 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00430; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:35:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Bradley Dunn cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PC Card boot floppy? In-Reply-To: <199607160428.AAA21958@ns2.harborcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Bradley Dunn wrote: > Is there a way for me to roll a boot floppy that has support for my > Megahertz Ethernet card so I can install via FTP to my laptop? I don't think the boot floppy as the pcmcia support built on it, does it? The megahertz isn't supported in driver form at the moment unless it emulates an IBM or a 3com ethernet PCCARD. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 23:38:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA03515 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03508 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00434; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:38:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: francis yeung cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.5 Intel EtherExpress instability In-Reply-To: <199607152200.WAA04148@fyeung5.netific.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, francis yeung wrote: > FreeBSD 2.1.5 Release Notes indicates that the use > of the Intel EtherExpress (I assumed that it is a Pro/10) is > not recommended due to driver instability. Does this apply > to both 2.1.0 and 2.0.5 Releases. Or this only applies > to FreeBSD 2.1.5 only. The Pro/10 isn't supported at all. The warning is for the ix0 driver which is for the Intel EtherExpress 16. > Or Intel EtherExpress (Pro/10) should be used in all FreeBSD > releases. How about a no-namer NE2000 or DE2104x-based PCI ethernet card? Those are well supported. I have a NE2k in this box (a P90) and except for less-than-optimal performance (the PCI has the obvious advantage) it has only shaken once. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 23:47:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA04041 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04036 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00466; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:47:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Blair Schmittel cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD box talking slowly In-Reply-To: <199607160550.XAA24313@strech.cyber-naut.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Try to split your lines at about column 75. Thanks. On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Blair Schmittel wrote: > I have a FreeBSD 2.1R box with a 3Com card in it. When I ping from it > or to it, I get pathetic ping times, such as 549.06. When I ping from > another FreeBSD box to any other computer I get ping times of about > 0.880. I wonder if this is a routing or ARP lookup problem. Try running a tcpdump on the slow machine while pinging it. And try replacing the cabling. Also check that nothing else is on the 3com's interrupt. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 23:53:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA04387 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04381 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00476; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:53:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Brandon Gillespie cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP Masquerading.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > I know Linux can do it (I have a friend who has it setup, masquerading > a Win95 machine through his Linux box to the network via ppp). > > Can and if so how would this be achieved in FreeBSD? Basically my wife > often wishes to get online while I am also connected (usually working). > As this causes a dilemma I have ordered a new system for her (Mac, her > choice) with basic thinwire ethernet. However, now I get to set it up. I > would really REALLY not like to switch to Linux, is there any hope? This is the classic "ppp-gateway" question. You have to set up your machine for proxy ARP and enable IP forwarding. Proxy ARP is a part of iijppp I believe, and IP forwarding is contolled by the 'gateway' /etc/sysconfig item. Someone wrote something on doing this, I can't remember where it is tho. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 16 23:55:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA04459 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04454 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00483; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:55:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Edmund Jackson cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: group changing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Edmund Jackson wrote: > Hoes do you change a user's group 1. use vipw to change the group ID. 2. use chown to chown all the user's files to reflect the new group. (Is this step really necessary, opinions?) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 00:13:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA05322 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line2.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.151]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA05313 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA00536; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:12:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Mark Huizer cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hayes commands in /usr/share/misc... In-Reply-To: <199607161230.OAA02724@xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, FreeBSD matters of Mark Huizer wrote: > Hmm... missing the *()U()^*(^& booklet again with my Hayes command set... > > Wouldn't it be an idea to get a selected nummer of commands of the Hayes > command set somewhere in /usr/share/misc? Perhaps instead of the list > of the deeper meanings of flowers? I've got the 33.6 Supra command set. Close enough? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 00:14:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA05421 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line2.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.151]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA05414 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA00540; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:14:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Nello Nicoletti (tesi MM)" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Help - can't boot well... In-Reply-To: <31EBAE31.1237@armonia.cnuce.cnr.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Nello Nicoletti (tesi MM) wrote: > I do have an AHA 2920 SCSI controller which is not supported by FreeBSD, > as I have read on the handbook, but I'd still like to have FBSD on my > pentium. Did anybody else have the same problem and how did he solve it? > Or, did anyone configure his kernel in order to solve this? If so, > please send me a copy. Dump the 2920? Go IDE? The 2920 is on the TMC chipset (I believe) and no driver currently exists for that chipset. Is the 2920 PCI? If so then go for the classic, can't-miss 2940. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 00:17:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA05575 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line2.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.151]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA05567 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA00551; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:17:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Eric Bilodeau cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help with PLIP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Eric Bilodeau wrote: > I want to know EXACTLY how connecting my DOS computer with my freebsd > computer via PLIP. With DOS? No way unless you have a PLIP driver for DOS. This is how I understand it doing FreeBSD<->FreeBSD: If you have an interrupt-driven parallel port (all parallel ports are interrupt-driven by default) then the lpt driver creates a network device lp? that corresponds to the lpt port. All you need is a parallel crossover cable ("laplink" or "interlink" cable). Then ifconfig the device just like you would an ethernet device, with an ip address and all that. That should establish the connection. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 00:30:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA05993 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA05988 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA19194 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:30:46 -0600 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:30:45 -0600 (MDT) From: Joel Yancey To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: is it back (2.1.5R)? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i looked on ftp.freebsd.org and there no longer 700, does that mean it's re-released? or not? thanks, joel yancey From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 00:38:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA06362 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from serv1.tech-one.com (serv1.tech-one.com [206.242.192.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06356 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quartz (206.242.239.8) by serv1.tech-one.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:39:30 -0600 Message-ID: <31ECA452.41C6@tech-one.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:29:06 -0700 From: Bill Weiss X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01S (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Free BSD and Security X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! We just installed free BSD on our server, and before we out the system online we want to make sure we have all the security matters covered. Aside from general network precautions(paswords, ports,etc..) are they're any obscure features about logins we should check? ie: a user logging into the system as ls or anything? Can never be to careful these days! Thanks! Bill PS our system in a P133, 64 megs, 4 gig and a portmaster with 20 modems. We want to use the sever for users, mail, news, and to host a few sites. We will be using a dedicated ISDN to start out with as this is all a new thing to us....OS and all! From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 01:00:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA07292 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07243 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id AAA24707 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA21918; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:45:52 +0300 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:45:51 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org cc: Blaine Minazzi Subject: Re: questions-digest V1 #1106 In-Reply-To: <199607162006.NAA07930@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: Blaine Minazzi > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:33:17 -0600 > Subject: networking Linux <--> FreeBSD > > Congratulations to the FreeBSD crowd. You managed to reduce me to > a quivering mass of nerves. After looking through the massive > ( lack ) of documentation :-( , I have to do the one thing > all grown men hate to do the most. Ask for help... Something I hear for the first time... > Here is something that should be rather simple. > Connect a Linux and FreeBSD box using TCP/IP. > I have done this with Linux <--> Linux, but, > for the life of me, I cannot talk to the BSD machine. Can you ping it? Can you ping the linux machine from FreeBSD? Can you connect from the FreeBSD machine? Can FreeBSD connect to other mchines? > > My /etc/hosts files are > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 172.16.0.10 orion.whatever.com orion > 172.16.0.20 xenu.whatever.com xenu > > > my networks file is > > 172.16.0.0 what-net > > > I ifconfig 172.16.0.10 ( and .20 ) to the devices eth0 and ed1 > on the 2 machines respectively. > > Now on the linux box, I route add orion, > and route add what-net > > I am not so clear on the BSD side of things. > > There is a slight syntax differnece, and have read the man pages, > etc... > > > Also, could someone be so kind as to give me some info > on the /etc/sysconfig file... How is yours set up? I think the /etc/sysconfig file is quite self-explaining... And it automatically sets up the network interfaces to the right parameters - provided you have told it to do so. > A few examples could go a long way to making this the easy job I know > it to be... How did you install FreeBSD on that machine? As far as I remeber and have seen, the sysinstall program allows you to set up the networking information during set-up time. Some excertps from the /etc/sysconfig file (I changed them to fit your configuration :-) Set the hosts name: # Set to the name of your host - this is pretty important! hostname="xenu.whatever.com" Set up network interfaces: # # Set to the list of network devices on this host. You must have an # ifconfig_${network_interface} line for each interface listed here. # for example: # # network_interfaces="ed0 sl0 lo0" # ifconfig_ed0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00" # ifconfig_sl0="inet 10.0.1.0 netmask 0xffffff00" # network_interfaces="ed0 lo0" ifconfig_ed0="inet 172.16.0.20 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" Point out the default router: # Set to the host you'd like set as your default router, or NO for none. defaultrouter="172.17.1.19" Sander > All help greatly appreciated. > > > > - -- > Sincerely, > > > Blaine Minazzi > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 01:01:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA07393 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panacea.insight.co.za (panacea.insight.co.za [196.27.7.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA07380 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tony@localhost) by panacea.insight.co.za (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA18451 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:01:43 GMT From: Tony Harverson Message-Id: <199607171001.KAA18451@panacea.insight.co.za> Subject: 3c509 in 2.1.5 ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:01:43 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Heya all, Just out of curiosity, why is the patch for the 3c509 given in the knownbug.txt file not applied before rollout ? If (as it says) several people experience hangs without it, why is it not put into the real release source ? T -- <+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+> || Tony Harverson | GCS d++>-- H>H+ s !g p? au- a-- w+++ v++>--- || || Unix Admin | C++++ UB++++$ P+>++++ L-- 3+++ E--- N++ K !W--- || || Network Manager | M-- !V po Y+ t+ !5 !j R+ G' tv b++ D B---- e+ || || Trog@irc.cs.und | u-(++) h!(*)>++ f+ r n--- !x+ || <+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+> Unix Rules all - Freebsd Forever :) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 01:04:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA07611 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hidesert.com (hidesert.com [206.85.216.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA07603 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607170804.BAA07603@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from mik.hidesert.com by hidesert.com with SMTP (IPAD 1.1) id 1159100 ; Wed, 17 Jul 96 01:01:02 UTC Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:02:31 -0700 From: Mike, Toole, X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: deleting users Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How can I delete a user off of my bsd system? I have deleted their path along with their line in the master.passwd file but it still lets them login. mtoole@hidesert.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 01:21:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA08569 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA08564 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA09571; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607170820.BAA09571@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Tony Harverson cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 3c509 in 2.1.5 ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:01:43 -0000." <199607171001.KAA18451@panacea.insight.co.za> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:20:31 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Heya all, > >Just out of curiosity, why is the patch for the 3c509 given in the >knownbug.txt file not applied before rollout ? If (as it says) >several people experience hangs without it, why is it not put into >the real release source ? Because you have the facts backwards. The patch was to remove a fix that was introduced just prior to the release being made. In other words, I screwed up and committed a "fix" that wasn't well tested just hours before the release was made. We didn't learn about the new problem until well after the release was put out. So to deal with this problem quickly, we created a "knownbug.txt" file to tell people how to deal with the new bug. ...but then we discovered several other problems with the release and it became apparant that the whole thing was a false start. So we fixed the problems...and there you go. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 01:39:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA09561 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA09552 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA19587; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 02:38:38 -0600 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 02:38:37 -0600 (MDT) From: Joel Yancey To: Mike@freefall.freebsd.org, Toole@freefall.freebsd.org, mtoole@hidesert.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: deleting users In-Reply-To: <199607170804.BAA07603@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk use vipw to edit your passwd files, and then delete the line in there like you normally do =) See ya joel yancey On Wed, 17 Jul 1996 Mike@freefall.freebsd.org wrote: > How can I delete a user off of my bsd system? I have deleted their path > along with their line in the master.passwd file but it still lets them > login. > > mtoole@hidesert.com > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 02:56:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA25737 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 02:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA25732 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 02:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr [134.157.72.87]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with SMTP id LAA17215 ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:56:23 +0200 (METDST) Received: from iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr (iaka) by mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jn930126+af960507(mailhost)) at Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:55:49 +0100 Received: by iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jf930126) at Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:55:48 +0100 Message-Id: <199607171055.AA01065@iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr> Subject: Re: 3c509 in 2.1.5 ? To: tony@panacea.insight.co.za (Tony Harverson) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:55:47 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: "Alain FAUCONNET" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607171001.KAA18451@panacea.insight.co.za> from "Tony Harverson" at Jul 17, 96 10:01:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tony Harverson wrote / a ecrit: > > Heya all, > > Just out of curiosity, why is the patch for the 3c509 given in the > knownbug.txt file not applied before rollout ? If (as it says) > several people experience hangs without it, why is it not put into > the real release source ? > Hmmmm I thought I'd reply before the main release engineers experience a nervous breakdown reading this ! The bug has been discovered AFTER the release, and although the fix seems fairly simple, rebuilding the whole thing, integrating a couple more critical fixes, re-double-checking for new problems, creating the CDROM master trees etc. is a VERY time and resource-consuming task. Despite the huge efforts made by the nice guys who bring FreeBSD to us (a BIG hurray to them!) this is going to take some time (I wonder if they sleep sometimes ?). While I'm eating up net bandwith, I might as well take the opportunity to say a big THANK YOU to all the volunteers and congratulate them for the wonderful O/S they provide us for free. FreeBSD runs on my desktop PC at work, I would love to have my organization contribute in one way or another to the FreeBSD team, but since it's a government lab this seems rather difficult. In any case, if either of the FreeBSD core team members happens to come to Paris some day, please drop me a line ! I owe you a tour and a dinner, guys (if you can stand my european-style car and driving of course ;-) _Alain_ -- Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM Public Health 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE Medical Computing Research Labs Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68 I've RTFMed. It says: "Refer to your system administrator" But... I *am* the system administrator :-] From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 03:22:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA28348 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA28338 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id MAA04618; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:21:00 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id MAA01229; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:20:53 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id MAA03584; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:07:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607171007.MAA03584@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Need Info To: rishim@teil.soft.net (Rishi Gautam) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:07:53 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <9607170329.AA11447@teil.soft.net> from Rishi Gautam at "Jul 16, 96 07:29:10 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Rishi Gautam wrote: > Hi > I have a 3COM EtherLink PCI card. Is there is any driver for the > Freebsd Release 2.1.0. If it is there, how could i get itand > install it in FreeBsd. There's the ed driver for 3c503's, or the ep driver for 3c509's. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 03:47:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA29171 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.6.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA29075 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from roberte@localhost) by beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA22194; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:40:39 +0200 From: Robert Eckardt Message-Id: <199607171040.MAA22194@beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Subject: Re: can't delete rcp To: jim@starshine.org (Jim Dennis) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:40:39 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: mcnab@bayarea.net, kelly@fsl.noaa.gov, black@mr.net, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607170041.RAA00963@starshine> from "Jim Dennis" at Jul 16, 96 05:41:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > | chflags noschg rcp [..] > One question I do have about chflags -- I haven't seen a > corresponding 'lsflags' or any way to query the fs for > information about which flags are set. Is there one? > How to I find out the flags state without changing them? ls -lo > Jim Dennis, > Starshine Technical Services, -- Robert Eckardt ( Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Inst.f.Theor.Physik, NB6/169 ) Universitaetsstrasse 150, D-44780 Bochum, Germany ----X---8---- Telefon: +49 234 700-3709, Telefax: +49 234 7094-574 8 E-Mail: RobertE@MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de --------8---- URL: http://WWW.MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de/ >>> Fuer die einen ist es bloss ein Betriebssystem, <<< >>> fuer die anderen ist es der laengste Virus der Welt. .... Windows 95 <<< From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 03:49:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA29259 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA29254 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA09813; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607171047.DAA09813@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: rishim@teil.soft.net (Rishi Gautam), questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need Info In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:07:53 +0200." <199607171007.MAA03584@uriah.heep.sax.de> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:47:41 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >As Rishi Gautam wrote: >> Hi >> I have a 3COM EtherLink PCI card. Is there is any driver for the >> Freebsd Release 2.1.0. If it is there, how could i get itand ^^^^^ Woops, just noticed that you're taking about 2.1.0...you'll need to get FreeBSD 2.1.5 for 3Com 3c590/3c595 PCI ethernet support. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 03:50:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA29361 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA29356 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA09795; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607171046.DAA09795@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: rishim@teil.soft.net (Rishi Gautam), questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need Info In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:07:53 +0200." <199607171007.MAA03584@uriah.heep.sax.de> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:46:27 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >As Rishi Gautam wrote: >> Hi >> I have a 3COM EtherLink PCI card. Is there is any driver for the >> Freebsd Release 2.1.0. If it is there, how could i get itand >> install it in FreeBsd. > >There's the ed driver for 3c503's, or the ep driver for 3c509's. ...and the vx driver for the 3c590/3c595 PCI cards. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 03:51:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA29426 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA29417 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA09826; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607171051.DAA09826@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: tim palmer cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3c590... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:28:27 EDT." <31EA8DCB.2781E494@intercall.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 03:51:32 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >hmm, so if you're the "Principal Architect", I should take your word over the > people at Walnut Creek regarding 3c590 support in 2.1.5, yes? Ahh well, >c'est la guerre! ...an update on this: The 3c590 will be supported in 2.1.5 - since we decided to re-roll the release, I went ahead and ported the driver from -current. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 04:00:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA29955 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 04:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ax433.mclink.it (ax433.mclink.it [192.106.166.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA29936 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 04:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp-131.mclink.it by ax433.mclink.it id aa12002; 17 Jul 96 13:00 CEST Message-ID: <31ECD658.41C67EA6@mclink.it> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:02:32 +0200 From: Marco Masotti X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP Masquerading.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From: Jim Dennis >Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:13:46 -0700 (PDT) >Subject: Re: IP Masquerading.. > >> I know Linux can do it (I have a friend who has it setup, >masquerading >> a Win95 machine through his Linux box to the network via ppp). > >> -Brandon Gillespie Darren Reed's IPFilter package. Consider using SOCKS instead. I guess it might be slightly simpler using the proxys included in TIS Toolkit. Till a few months ago, Socks required modification of your client. Is that yet true? Marco From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 04:43:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA02671 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 04:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [199.84.158.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA02666 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 04:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA03140; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:43:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:43:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: David Greenman cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: KNOWNBUG.TXT In-Reply-To: <199607171046.DAA09795@root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HNOWNBUG.TXT stills exists in the 2.1.5-RELEASE hierarchy describing the 3C509's brokeness, however if the driver has been fixed in the new roll-out of 2.1.5, shouldn't KNOWNBUG.TXT be updated too? Andrew Webster - andrew@pubnix.net - http://www.pubnix.net PubNIX Montreal - Connected to the world - Branche au monde 514-990-5911 - P.O. Box 147, Cote St-Luc, Quebec, H4V 2Y3 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 04:48:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA02830 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 04:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.interramp.com (smtp1.interramp.com [38.8.45.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA02825 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 04:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from portal.east.saic.com by smtp1.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id HAA10758; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:48:22 -0400 Message-Id: <199607171148.HAA10758@smtp1.interramp.com> Received: from [198.151.14.7] by portal.east.saic.com via smtpd (for smtp1.interramp.com [38.8.45.2]) with SMTP; 17 Jul 1996 11:48:17 UT Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tony Magner" Organization: SAIC BlueRidge Engineering Facility To: David Greenman , questions@FREEBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:47:26 EDT -0400 Subject: Re: FTPD not loading on FBSD 2.1.1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.41) Sender: owner-questions@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thus spake David Greenman on 16 Jul 96 about Re: FTPD not loading on FBSD 2.1.1: >>I hope somebody can help me! >> >>My BSD system has been running flawlessly for months until this past >>weekend sometime. What has happened now is that ftpd, telnetd, and Samba >>will not load. Even manually starting ftpd results in errors about >>getpeername and getsockname. I'm using wu-ftpd 2.4. Any ideas? Think >>the host table or maybe the kernel got screwed up? Please help as I'm >>desparate. > > You can't start ftpd manually. It is written to be spawned from inetd and >is expecting to inherit the socket file descriptor on stdin/stdout. > It sounds like you're not starting inetd anymore in your /etc/rc file. > But inetd *is* called from /etc/rc. The other thing is I can ftp to localhost with no problem so ftpd *must* be running...right? Anything else to check? Can you explain further this "socket file descriptor"? TIA -- Tony Magner -- Anthony.S.Magner@cpmx.saic.com (work) -- akmagner@interramp.com (home) PGP key: email maiser@blueridge-ef.saic.com with "finger magner" in the message body From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 04:50:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA02939 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 04:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cpmx.mail.saic.com (cpmx.mail.saic.com [139.121.95.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA02934 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 04:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.151.14.5] by cpmx.mail.saic.com; Wed, 17 Jul 96 04:49:58 -0700 Received: from SAIC1/SpoolDir by BlueRidge-EF.SAIC.COM (Mercury 1.21); 17 Jul 96 07:50:00 -0400 Received: from SpoolDir by SAIC1 (Mercury 1.30); 17 Jul 96 07:48:28 -0400 From: "Tony Magner" Organization: SAIC BlueRidge Engineering Facility To: David Greenman , questions@FREEBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:48:23 EDT -0400 Subject: Re: FTPD not loading on FBSD 2.1.1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.41) Message-Id: <31ecd367673c002@cpmx.mail.saic.com> Sender: owner-questions@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thus spake David Greenman on 16 Jul 96 about Re: FTPD not loading on FBSD 2.1.1: >>I hope somebody can help me! >> >>My BSD system has been running flawlessly for months until this past >>weekend sometime. What has happened now is that ftpd, telnetd, and Samba >>will not load. Even manually starting ftpd results in errors about >>getpeername and getsockname. I'm using wu-ftpd 2.4. Any ideas? Think >>the host table or maybe the kernel got screwed up? Please help as I'm >>desparate. > > You can't start ftpd manually. It is written to be spawned from inetd and >is expecting to inherit the socket file descriptor on stdin/stdout. > It sounds like you're not starting inetd anymore in your /etc/rc file. > But inetd *is* called from /etc/rc. The other thing is I can ftp to localhost with no problem so ftpd *must* be running...right? Anything else to check? Can you explain further this "socket file descriptor"? TIA -- Tony Magner -- Anthony.S.Magner@cpmx.saic.com (work) -- akmagner@interramp.com (home) PGP key: email maiser@blueridge-ef.saic.com with "finger magner" in the message body From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 05:21:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA03743 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 05:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-13.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.113]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA03738 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 05:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA22295; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 08:21:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199607171221.IAA22295@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol From: Branson Matheson To: Red Barchetta cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: master.passwd vs. shadow? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:11:12 EDT." <2.2.32.19960717031112.002cb818@pegasus.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 08:21:46 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- Red Barchetta uttered with conviction: > I have been a UNIX user for about 2 years now, but I just recently > installed FreeBSD on my own system. I do quite a bit of work o n > Sparcs, so I am familiar with the concept of a shadowed passwd file, > and it appears to me that the FreeBSD system, which keeps the > "meaningful" passwords in master.passwd and makes it readable only > to root. Ca n someone explain to me just how this is implemented? Checkout the manpage on vipw(8) .. it will then point you to the pwd_mkdb(8) manpage and things are 'splained in there. -branson ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 06:28:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA05807 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 06:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tick.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (root@tick.cslab.tuwien.ac.at [193.170.72.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA05798 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 06:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trick.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (kaplan@trick.cslab.tuwien.ac.at [193.170.72.35]) by tick.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA15933 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:27:50 +0200 From: Leon Kaplan Received: (kaplan@localhost) by trick.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (8.6.11/8.6.11) id PAA14701 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:27:49 +0200 Message-Id: <199607171327.PAA14701@trick.cslab.tuwien.ac.at> Subject: no subject (file transmission) To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:27:49 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Subject: compiling 2.1 custom kernel probs. Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Summary: Keywords: X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Maybe someone has had similar problems... so here it is: I tried to compile a custom kernel and succeded after some time but it took quite a few attempts and make or cc often got killed by a SIGSEG (Segmentation fault). It would die in a very unpredictable way (for ex: i did the following # cd /sys/i386/conf [edited KERNEL_MYMACHINENAME] # /usr/sbin/conf KERNEL_MYMACHINENAME # cd /sys/compile/KERNEL_MYMACHINENAME # make clean (because of quota support) # make [... machine compiles, cc dies with signal 11] # make clean # make [... machine compiles...compile completed] # make install [...rebooting...everything is fine] Or for ex. whenever cc got killed it was compiling a different .c file. So it didn't hang at one specific one. ) Is this a known Problem with FreeBSD 2.1? I installed the gcc package. Could this be the cause? Leon Aaron Kaplan. -- ---------------------------------- Leon Aaron Kaplan email: kaplan@cslab.tuwien.ac.at s9325704@stud1.tuwien.ac.at From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 07:05:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA08054 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.lenzi ([200.247.20.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA08040 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by home.lenzi (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA09348; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:09:10 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:09:09 +0000 () From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@home To: Ben Black cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: can't delete rcp In-Reply-To: <199607160253.VAA14587@galileo.mr.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Ben Black wrote: > ok, i'm feeling really stupid for this one... > > slowburn: {1} whoami > root > slowburn: {2} rm rcp > override r-sr-xr-x root/bin schg for rcp? y > rm: rcp: Operation not permitted > slowburn: {3} chmod 0755 rcp > chmod: rcp: Operation not permitted > slowburn: {4} mv rcp rcp.bak > mv: rename rcp to rcp.bak: Operation not permitted > Hello Ben Try using the chflags command before removing/deleting... From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 07:23:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA09001 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spoon.beta.com (root@[199.165.180.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA08991; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA05721; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:22:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199607171422.KAA05721@spoon.beta.com> To: bugs@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: 3C5X9 code... Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:22:57 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently tried to install 2.1.5-RELEASE on my pentium system with some serious problems. After several seconds of network usage, the 3COM 3C5X9 card in my machine drops off the network. This happens both during the install (from the boot floppy) and with the GENERIC kernel. I was able to get 2.1.5-RELEASE installed by choosing a minimal configuration, and then toggling the interface status using ifconfig every few seconds (ie - ifconfig ep0 down;sleep 1;ifconfig ep0 up;sleep3 - repeat as needed). Once loaded, the problem persisted, and began to cause panics after a period of time during NFS copies, and other high-load situations. The problem does not seem to "go away" under low load situations, and appears to happen in 3 (high load) to 15 (low load) second intervals. 15 minutes before the install, I had 2.1.5-GAMMA on the same hardware (in the same configuration) with no problems (which makes me think its NOT the hardware), but I don't know what may have changed between -GAMMA and -RELEASE. Please let me know if this is a known bug, or whether I am just losing my mind. -Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 07:31:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA09767 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA09757; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA10207; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607171431.HAA10207@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Brian J. McGovern" cc: bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3C5X9 code... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:22:57 EDT." <199607171422.KAA05721@spoon.beta.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:31:35 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >I recently tried to install 2.1.5-RELEASE on my pentium system >with some serious problems. After several seconds of network usage, >the 3COM 3C5X9 card in my machine drops off the network. This happens >both during the install (from the boot floppy) and with the >GENERIC kernel. I was able to get 2.1.5-RELEASE installed by choosing a minimal >configuration, and then toggling the interface status using ifconfig >every few seconds (ie - ifconfig ep0 down;sleep 1;ifconfig ep0 up;sleep3 - >repeat as needed). Once loaded, the problem persisted, and began to >cause panics after a period of time during NFS copies, and other >high-load situations. The problem does not seem to "go away" under >low load situations, and appears to happen in 3 (high load) to 15 (low load) >second intervals. You should read the announcements...we withdrew the 2.1.5 release because of this and a few other problems. These have been fixed and the code that is available now shouldn't have this problem. >Please let me know if this is a known bug, or whether I am just >losing my mind. No, you're probably not losing your mind...but I think I am. :-) -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 07:38:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA10202 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA10196; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA00383; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:38:30 -0700 (PDT) To: "Brian J. McGovern" cc: bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3C5X9 code... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:22:57 EDT." <199607171422.KAA05721@spoon.beta.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:38:30 -0700 Message-ID: <381.837614310@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk FTP the boot floppy from ftp.freebsd.org and try again - this has been fixed (as was widely announced - please subscribe to the announce mailing list). Jordan > > I recently tried to install 2.1.5-RELEASE on my pentium system > with some serious problems. After several seconds of network usage, > the 3COM 3C5X9 card in my machine drops off the network. This happens > both during the install (from the boot floppy) and with the > GENERIC kernel. I was able to get 2.1.5-RELEASE installed by choosing a minim al > configuration, and then toggling the interface status using ifconfig > every few seconds (ie - ifconfig ep0 down;sleep 1;ifconfig ep0 up;sleep3 - > repeat as needed). Once loaded, the problem persisted, and began to > cause panics after a period of time during NFS copies, and other > high-load situations. The problem does not seem to "go away" under > low load situations, and appears to happen in 3 (high load) to 15 (low load) > second intervals. > > 15 minutes before the install, I had 2.1.5-GAMMA on the same > hardware (in the same configuration) with no problems (which > makes me think its NOT the hardware), but I don't know what may > have changed between -GAMMA and -RELEASE. > > Please let me know if this is a known bug, or whether I am just > losing my mind. > -Brian > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 09:02:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA00247 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00238; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.wasantara.net.id (root@[202.159.65.171]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA23389 ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:01:59 -0700 Received: from jambi.wasantara.net.id (jambi.wasantara.net.id [202.159.72.163]) by ns2.wasantara.net.id (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA03556; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:56:31 +0700 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:56:31 +0700 Received: from JAMBI/SpoolDir by jambi.wasantara.net.id (Mercury 1.21); 17 Jul 96 16:54:54 GMT+0700 Received: from SpoolDir by JAMBI (Mercury 1.21); 17 Jul 96 16:53:59 GMT+0700 Received: from la1bdg.wasantara.net.id by jambi.wasantara.net.id (Mercury 1.21); 17 Jul 96 16:53:46 GMT+0700 X-Sender: kandi@jambi.wasantara.net.id X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: question@FreeBSD.org From: kandi@jambi.wasantara.net.id (Eka Kelana) Subject: Mailing list Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <3B41590136@jambi.wasantara.net.id> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there ! I would like to know whether any mailing list exists in FreeBSD.org domain. If somebody here knows about a miling list which discuss network programming, please tell me.... :-) Send reply to me through both of these e-mail address: kandi@jambi.wasantara.net.id smu_16@jakarta.wasantara.net.id I would be very grateful for any reply... :^) -Eka K.- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 09:05:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA00693 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.montana.edu (fubar.cs.montana.edu [153.90.192.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00688 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by cs.montana.edu; id AA20664; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:05:49 -0600 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:05:49 -0600 (MDT) From: Justin Ashworth To: ZOUNDS@INNOSOFT.COM Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trident 9440 video card supported under XFree? In-Reply-To: <01I75O5ZAO6U8Y4Z7O@INNOSOFT.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996 ZOUNDS@INNOSOFT.COM wrote: > so, is it? Well, the impression I got was that the only way to support it is to buy the server from Xinside (www.xinside.com). If anybody knows of a cheaper way to get it, please let me know. - Justin J. Ashworth -- CS Student - Montana State University --- Chair, Association for Computing Machinery - MSU ---- ashworth@cs.montana.edu ----- http://www.cs.montana.edu/~ashworth From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 09:39:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA02355 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reply.net (titan.reply.net [198.240.68.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02341 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrogan@localhost) by reply.net (8.6.13/8.6.13) id MAA13744 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:40:04 -0400 From: John Brogan Message-Id: <199607171640.MAA13744@reply.net> Subject: Transfer rate problem To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:40:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I have been trying to fix a "problem" which seems to be out of my league as to the cure. It deals with transfer rates during an FTP, UUCP or other type of transfer between a DOS-based machine and a FreeBSD 2.1-based machine. Under windows, I can do a FTP transfer to the BSD box using a generic FTP application running with Winsock 2.1f the transfer speed to/from the bsd machine is around 280kbps which is fine for what I need. There is no problem here. However, using the exact same machine but under dos using a standard packet driver and a FTP app for DOS I get a transfer rate of 331kbps going from the BSD box to the DOS box but only a 6.5kbps rate going from the DOS box to the BSD box. 6.5kbps is just too slow to transfer a large file to the BSD box. The strangest thing about all of this is this was working fine (350kbps under dos both ways) under BSD 1.1.5.1 and the exact same DOS machine setup. I am getting similar poor performance when doing a UUCP transfer in either direction when using BSD 2.1. I get about 5kbps to or from the BSD box yet under 1.1.5.1 it was around 250kbps when running a UUCP session. Any ideas what could be causing this? I have not changed the DOS machines in years so I don't think it was a re-configuration problem there. The only item that was changed was going from BSD 1.1.5.1 to 2.1.0. I have tried changing the TCP extensions and that had no effect. Thanks in advance for any ideas you have. I'm sure this is something simple but I have tried everything to figure it out but with no success. I'll gladly capture a tcpdump of the PUT session that is getting such slow rates and send it to whoever. Thanks, John Brogan ReplyNet From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 10:19:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA04454 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from siegfried.utmb.edu (siegfried.utmb.edu [129.109.59.86]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04434 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beowulf.utmb.EDU (beowulf.utmb.edu [129.109.59.83]) by siegfried.utmb.edu (8.5/8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03122; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:16:35 -0500 Received: by beowulf.utmb.EDU (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA13995; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:16:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:16:10 -0500 From: bdodson@beowulf.utmb.edu (M. L. Dodson) Message-Id: <199607171716.MAA13995@beowulf.utmb.EDU> To: ZOUNDS@INNOSOFT.COM, ashworth@fubar.cs.montana.edu Subject: Re: Trident 9440 video card supported under XFree? Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think the XFree86 3.12 beta E supports it. > > On Tue, 16 Jul 1996 ZOUNDS@INNOSOFT.COM wrote: > > > so, is it? > > Well, the impression I got was that the only way to support it is to > buy the server from Xinside (www.xinside.com). If anybody knows of a > cheaper way to get it, please let me know. > > - Justin J. Ashworth > -- CS Student - Montana State University > --- Chair, Association for Computing Machinery - MSU > ---- ashworth@cs.montana.edu > ----- http://www.cs.montana.edu/~ashworth > > -- M. L. Dodson bdodson@scms.utmb.edu 409-772-2178 FAX: 409-772-1790 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 10:30:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA05270 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail4.dlsu.edu.ph (09210679@mail4.dlsu.edu.ph [165.220.8.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA05263 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from 09210679@localhost) by mail4.dlsu.edu.ph (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA26302; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 01:30:04 +0800 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 01:30:04 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Humprey C. Sy" <09210679@mail4.dlsu.edu.ph> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Questions on signals Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What will be the behavior of a process if it receives a signal twice simultaneously (i.e. it receives two SIGALRM signals simultaneously)? I've read the man page, and it mentioned that in the case that it receives another SIGALRM when inside a SIGALRM signal handler routine, this second SIGALRM will be masked, and will be unmasked once the routine finishes its execution. I've tried to see if this is the case, but it doesn't seem to work. Am I getting this right? I would appreciate any help on this. Thank you very much! Humprey Sy De La Salle University Manila, Philippines From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 11:11:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA07804 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA07799 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA05757 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:11:01 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA01976; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:41:18 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607171741.KAA01976@starshine> Subject: Re: IP Masquerading.. To: mc7953@mclink.it (Marco Masotti) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31ECD658.41C67EA6@mclink.it> from "Marco Masotti" at Jul 17, 96 02:02:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > >From: Jim Dennis > >Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:13:46 -0700 (PDT) > >Subject: Re: IP Masquerading.. > > > >> I know Linux can do it (I have a friend who has it setup, >masquerading > >> a Win95 machine through his Linux box to the network via ppp). > > > >> -Brandon Gillespie > > Darren Reed's IPFilter package. Consider using SOCKS instead. > > I guess it might be slightly simpler using the proxys included in TIS > Toolkit. > > Till a few months ago, Socks required modification of your client. Is > that yet true? > > Marco If I understood the Brandon correctly, he was trying to connect some non-Unix boxes through (Win '95?) the gateway. In this case all you need is a WINSOCK.DLL that knows about your proxying service -- all Windows applications should go through WINSOCK to get to any internet service (any that don't will by wildly incompatibly with lots of stuff). Does TIS FWTK include a WINSOCK binary (most Win'95 users don't have a compiler handy -- and vast differences exist between compilers and development environments on DOS Windows in general; code is often less portably between Borland, MS C, and Symantec/Zortech than it is between Solaris and Linux). I know that the trumpet WINSOCK can be configured to talk to a SOCKS server. I don't know about TIS. Also I noticed that there is a checkbox in the Win '95 TCP/IP configuration dialogs about "Use Proxy" (or words to that effect). I don't know what they mean by that -- (I've heard rumors that it might tie into some proprietary NT proxying service -- maybe in "BackOffice" -- but I'd sure like to know more). Jim Dennis, Starshine Technical Services, From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 11:17:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA08235 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phs.k12.ar.us (garman@phs.k12.ar.us [165.29.117.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08223 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (garman@localhost) by phs.k12.ar.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA03490 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:17:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:17:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Garman To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: network weirdness? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've just installed the new 2.1.5-release on my machine with an old 3c505 network card in it... After some searching, I found that the eg driver supports my card, although it doesn't seem to be documented anywhere. I recompiled the kernel and set up the network options in sysconfig...On boot, FreeBSD recognizes my card, and ifconfig's it for me, etc... Heres some background: I have two machines at home that are ethernetted together (my computer, and my father's): Jason (mine) 192.168.1.1 Art (his) 192.158.1.2 My computer of course is running FreeBSD and my father's machine is running DOS/Win3.1. Now the problem is: When I try to telnet into jason from art using NCSA Telnet (2.3.08, if it matters), it simply hangs there. Examining the arp cache with `arp -a' shows that theres no entry for art. Then I try pinging art from jason, which works perfectly, and sticks an entry for art in the arp cache. Only _after_ I've pinged art from jason can art connect to jason. Another weird effect is that if I try to connect again, I have to manually delete art's entry in the arp cache, ping art again, and then it will connect. Ifconfig eg0 gives: eg0: flags=863 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 And my routing tables look like: Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire localhost localhost UH 0 0 lo0 garman-net link#1 UC 0 0 jason 2:60:8c:1b:3d:d5 UHLW 0 4 lo0 art 2:60:8c:e:65:ae UHLW 3 295 eg0 441 The last two entries of course appear after I've established a connection... Any ideas????? -- Jason From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 11:28:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA08776 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patty.loop.net (patty.loop.net [204.179.169.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08767 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cassy@localhost) by patty.loop.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01409; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:27:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:27:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Cassandra Perkins X-Sender: cassy@patty.loop.net To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk help From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 11:35:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA09087 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA09082 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA07958 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:35:03 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA02052; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:21:01 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607171821.LAA02052@starshine> Subject: Re: Free BSD and Security To: celestyte@pb.net (Bill Weiss) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31ECA452.41C6@tech-one.com> from "Bill Weiss" at Jul 17, 96 01:29:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi! We just installed free BSD on our server, and before we out the > system online we want to make sure we have all the security matters > covered. Aside from general network precautions(paswords, ports,etc..) > are they're any obscure features about logins we should check? ie: a > user logging into the system as ls or anything? Can never be to careful > these days! > Use vipw to look for unusual accounts (like sync, toor or ruut, man, guest). Make sure that their password fields are *'d out. Other questions/suggestions: (precede most of these with "Did you"... or "Do you want to") have a router? configure it to screen against packet spoofing and source routing? configure it to permit incoming sessions only to public services? anyone on your LAN use a modem to access a PPP account? install TCP_Wrappers? configure them? (/etc/hosts.allow, /etc/hosts.deny) install tripwire? use the chflags on all your binaries and shared libs? (make them "immutable" with syschg) (increase the security level with sysctl?) use something like: '(find -perm +2000 -ls; find -perm +4000 -ls) > suid.list' ... to make a list of all the SUID and SGID files on your system? use 'ps auxw' to make a list of all processes that are "normal" for your configuration? save copies of those lists (and your initial tripwire database -- or md5sum list) to a floppy? write protect that floppy? edited inetd.conf and taken out "unnecessary" services (like sprayd, chargen, echo, etc). (take sendmail -bd out and replaced it with a cron job to just do a sendmail -q -- assuming that you want this machine to send mail -- but you have a mailhost for all of your mail) Without digging out my notes that is the subset of measures I take for all internet connected FreeBSD or Linux systems that I put together (except for the 'sysctl' "securitylevel" feature which I've had trouble with -- and tripwire which I've basically hacked together a simpler analog to it -- which I should polish up and release). After all that I'd ask: What's on this server? Do other hosts "trust" this server? If so, how? ... any further questions and data integrity suggestions would stem from answers to these questions. > Thanks! > Bill > > PS our system in a P133, 64 megs, 4 gig and a portmaster with 20 modems. > We want to use the sever for users, mail, news, and to host a few sites. > We will be using a dedicated ISDN to start out with as this is all a new > thing to us....OS and all! Has Livingston added support for detected and denying "source routed" packets? Are these users customers or employees (are you starting an ISP service or is there some other business for which you are providing these services)? By "host a few sites" are you referring to "virtual web/ftp hosting" or "co-location"? Where are you located? Jim Dennis, Starshine Technical Services From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 11:44:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA09447 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway.pnu.com (gateway.upj.com [146.240.240.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA09442 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:44:01 -0700 (PDT) From: ALHACK@am.pnu.com Received: by gateway.pnu.com id AA27196 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for questions@FreeBSD.org); Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:43:55 -0400 Received: by gateway.pnu.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:43:55 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:34:00 -0400 Message-Id: <1ed33f50@am.pnu.com> Subject: FreeBSD disk drivers To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I loaded FreeBSD 2.1.0 (in a user configuration) on a computer with about a 500MB drive in a dual boot mode with DOS. Both BSD and DOS work well. When I tried to load BSD on another computer (dual boot mode) with a 1083.8 MB drive the system seems to load but will not boot. Some preliminary verbage is displayed and then the "Boot:" is displayed (seems normal so far). Then the "bar" is displayed but does not "spin" - the system just hangs. Yes, DOS still boots! The controller is a Promise EIDE2300 PLUS VESA Local Bus with on board BIOS that takes over the hard disk fuctions from the mother board BIOS. The disk drive is a Western Digital Caviar AC21000. This combination works well with DOS and Windows 3.1 . I realise that this disk controller is not on the "supported" list, but does anyone have any ideas? Has anyone used this controller with FreeBSD? Or any compatable drivers? Art Hack alhack@am.pnu.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 11:49:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA09687 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guardian.guard.ncsc.mil (guardian.guard.ncsc.mil [144.51.52.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA09681 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by guardian.guard.ncsc.mil (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA16259 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:49:48 -0400 Received: from depot(144.51.53.1) by guardian via smap (V1.3) id sma016254; Wed Jul 17 14:49:36 1996 Received: from smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil (smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil [144.51.54.211]) by depot.missi.ncsc.mil (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA14632 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:46:05 -0400 Received: by smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil with Microsoft Mail id <31ED5FED@smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil>; Wed, 17 Jul 96 14:49:33 PDT From: "Paisley, Todd G." To: FreeBSD Subject: 3com 3C590 PCI ethernet card Date: Wed, 17 Jul 96 14:44:00 PDT Message-ID: <31ED5FED@smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil> Encoding: 11 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We did some upgrades to one of our servers and put in a 3Com 3C509 PCI ethernet card. FreeBSD 2.1 installed just beautifully except for one minor problem. It can't find the ethernet card. Is there a trick to getting this to work with this card? Even at boot up when it is looking at the cards on the PCI bus, it doesn't list the card as an option. Thought it might be a bad vard, but a known good card does the exact same thing? Any thoughts? Any help would be appreciated. Todd Paisley tgpaisl@missi.ncsc.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 11:57:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA10033 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dada.kaizen.net (dada.kaizen.net [206.27.236.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA10012; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by dada.kaizen.net via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id OAA12430; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:55:04 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:54:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Newell To: questions@freebsd.org cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Multicast routing questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk About a year ago I had problems with multicast routing in 2.0R; at that time I got some help from Soochon Radee and Bill Fenner. I've since upgraded to 2.1.0R and I find I still have the same problems. To recap: I have two FreeBSD machines connected together as below: Home Net Office Net +---------+---------+ +--------+-----------+------+ | | | | | | +----+-----+ +----+---+ +--+----+ | bigpuppy +---[BSP]==//==[BSP]---+ Pentup | | Cisco | +----------+ +--------+ +-------+ | V to MCI Pentup is a Pentium 166 running FBSD 2.1R/mrouted V3.8. It has a tunnel connection to Internet MCI and provides MBONE access to our office net. That works fine. Pentup also has a PPP link over an ISDN line (BSP = BitSurfr Pro) to my home machine, "bigpuppy". Bigpuppy is also a Pentium 166 running FBSD 2.1R/mrouted V3.8. Addressing is as follows: Pentup Ethernet (de0) 206.27.236.33/24 PPP0 206.27.237.13/30 Bigpuppy PPP0 206.27.237.14/30 Ethernet (ed1) 206.27.237.17/28 thus the PPP link and the two Ethernets form their own networks. [IP routing table maintenance is currently very manual 'cause of the variable subnets; I'm gonna install gated tonight... :-)] [1] The first problem is when I bring up mrouted it does not like interface PPP0 and I have to disable it. This is a long standing problem; even though the PPP interfaces are marked as multicast capable mrouted will not recognize them. Bill Fenner kindly sent me a patch back in August (to "in_var.h"); I applied it to my current system and rebuilt the kernel and mrouted on bigpuppy but it still fails. :-( As a workaround I've disabled the interface in the mrouted.conf file and establish a tunnel between the machines. [2] The second problem is sdr and sd do not see any sessions when run on bigpuppy. When run from hosts on the office net I DO see them, so it looks like our multicast access to MCI is working just fine. Unfortunately I don't have another machine on my home net that's running multicast software (we had to borrow my spare FBSD machine for work...) so I don't know if bigpuppy is actually forwarding multicast packets to the Ethernet. Pentup's mrouted.conf looks like: phyint ppp0 disable tunnel 206.27.236.33 204.70.74.61 metric 1 threshold 32 tunnel 206.27.236.33 206.27.237.17 metric 1 threshold 16 rate_limit 100 and bigpuppy's looks like: phyint ppp0 disable tunnel 206.27.237.17 206.27.236.33 metric 1 threshold 16 rate_limit 100 When I start up the mrouted's I do see the traffic lights flash. "netstat -g" shows (a REALLY long list of) multicast routes being built. "mrinfo" from bigpuppy shows: 127.0.0.1 (localhost.newell.arlington.va.us) [version 3.8,prune,genid,mtrace]: 206.27.237.17 -> 0.0.0.0 (local) [1/1/querier/leaf] 206.27.237.14 -> 0.0.0.0 (local) [1/1/disabled] 206.27.237.17 -> 206.27.236.33 (pentup.kaizen.net) [1/16/tunnel] and on Pentup I see: 127.0.0.1 (localhost) [version 3.8]: 206.27.236.33 -> 0.0.0.0 (local) [1/1/querier/leaf] 206.27.237.13 -> 0.0.0.0 (local) [1/1/disabled] 206.27.236.33 -> 204.70.74.61 (dec3800-2-fddi-0.Washington.mci.net) [1/32/tunnel] 206.27.236.33 -> 206.27.237.17 (bigpuppy.newell.arlington.va.us) [1/16/tunnel/leaf] so the tunnels appear to be up. "tcpdump -i ppp0" on bigpuppy also shows not only igmp traffic but also ip-in-ip packets when sd/sdr are running. "map-mbone" on bigpuppy shows: Multicast Router Connectivity: 206.27.237.13 (mcnsisdn.kaizen.net): alias for 206.27.236.33 206.27.237.14 (mcnsisdn.newell.arlington.va.us): alias for 206.27.237.17 206.27.237.17 (bigpuppy.newell.arlington.va.us): 206.27.237.14: 206.27.237.14 (mcnsisdn.newell.arlington.va.us) [1/1/disabled] 206.27.237.17: 206.27.236.33 (pentup.kaizen.net) [1/16/tunnel] 206.27.237.17 (bigpuppy.newell.arlington.va.us) [1/1/querier] 206.27.236.33 (pentup.kaizen.net): 206.27.237.13: 206.27.237.13 (mcnsisdn.kaizen.net) [1/1/disabled] 206.27.236.33: 206.27.237.17 (bigpuppy.newell.arlington.va.us) [1/16/tunnel] 204.70.74.61 (dec3800-2-fddi-0.Washington.mci.net) [1/32/tunnel] 206.27.236.33 (pentup.kaizen.net) [1/1/querier] 204.70.74.61 (dec3800-2-fddi-0.Washington.mci.net): no response to query Soochon Radee sent me some patches for 2.0R in March of '95 to fix this (they were pretty extensive); he said they had also been submitted to the FBSD team for inclusion in the next release. Are they still applicable to 2.1R? Or is there some other fix I should be applying??? Thanks loads! Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 12:30:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA11945 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fiber.net (cpayne@optical.fiber.net [204.250.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11940 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fiber.net (NX5.67f2/NX3.0M) id AA09097; Wed, 17 Jul 96 13:34:34 -0600 Message-Id: <9607171934.AA09097@fiber.net> X-Fibernet-Tip: Don't quote more than you contribute! Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Carl Payne Date: Wed, 17 Jul 96 13:34:31 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CGI executes only on http, not https Reply-To: cpayne@fiber.net Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ...And, once again, I prove how subject lines are not my forte... We have a VDN client whose CGI scripts execute just fine when accessed NON-SSL, but when addressed through their https URL you get: File Not Found The requested URL /cgi-bin/file.cgi was not found on this server OK, looks elementary enough. Here's what I've done: Made sure there was a "Directory cgi-bin / allow from all" type of block in the ssl_conf/httpd.conf same as the non-SSL VDN conf file... Made sure the srm.conf in ssl_conf supported .cgi as a file extension; this also appears in the httpd.conf Tried to make sure everything that allowed cgi execution from the non-SSL VDN was also in the ssl_conf/httpd.conf Checked both the documentation (sic) and my favorite search engine. Haven't seen the archive, nor a 3rd party FAQ yet. Right now, I'm approaching Wit's End (the last stop before Dead Man's Curve), and I'm wondering what would keep a CGI script invisible to the SSL VDN but available to the non-SSL one. All help appreciated; thanks in advance. Carl From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 12:43:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA12635 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12624; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14455(4)>; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:42:25 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177482>; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:42:20 -0700 To: Mike Newell cc: questions@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multicast routing questions In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jul 96 11:54:59 PDT." Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:42:15 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <96Jul17.124220pdt.177482@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message you write : >...I've since upgraded to 2.1.0R BTW, 2.* have a relatively serious bug in the multicast forwarding code which can at least corrupt packets on their way through your machine and at worst cause a panic. It is fixed in 2.1.5 . Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 12:44:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA12727 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12699 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA07644; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:37:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Charlie ROOT To: Jim Dennis cc: Bill Weiss , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Free BSD and Security In-Reply-To: <199607171821.LAA02052@starshine> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Jim Dennis wrote: (on security) > > Use vipw to look for unusual accounts (like sync, toor or ruut, > man, guest). Make sure that their password fields are *'d out. > > > Other questions/suggestions: > (precede most of these with "Did you"... or "Do you want > to" [list deleted] > > Jim Dennis, > Starshine Technical Services > This is really good and last time I looked there wasn't anything like this in the handbook, not only for "real" system administrators but for individuals who install FreeBSD (and probably have an Internet connection of one kind or another) and are in effect their own (inexperienced) sysadmins. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 12:48:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA13094 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strech.cyber-naut.com (strech.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA13089 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from blair@localhost) by strech.cyber-naut.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA20159 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:47:30 -0600 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:47:30 -0600 From: Blair Schmittel Message-Id: <199607171947.NAA20159@strech.cyber-naut.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Incresing files Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello; How do you increase the limit on the # of files that can be open at any one time? Thanks, Blair From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 12:53:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA13541 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA13518; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <16359(6)>; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:38:28 PDT Received: by crevenia.parc.xerox.com id <177482>; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:38:19 -0700 From: Bill Fenner To: mnewell@kaizen.net, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multicast routing questions Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Message-Id: <96Jul17.123819pdt.177482@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:38:19 PDT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >[1] The first problem is when I bring up mrouted it does not like >interface PPP0 and I have to disable it. This is a long standing problem; >even though the PPP interfaces are marked as multicast capable mrouted >will not recognize them. Sorry, I've forgotten the exact failure here. Could you remind me exactly what happens? >[2] The second problem is sdr and sd do not see any sessions when run on >bigpuppy. Do you have a network route for net 224? You probably want to add something like route_multicast="224.0.0.0 -netmask 0xf0000000 -interface 206.27.237.17" static_routes="multicast" to /etc/sysconfig to make sure that you have a multicast route pointing to the enabled interface; if you don't have a multicast route then it will use your default route which probably points out ppp0 which happens to be disabled for multicast. Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 13:06:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA14416 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dada.kaizen.net (dada.kaizen.net [206.27.236.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA14390; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by dada.kaizen.net via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id QAA12810; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:03:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:03:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Newell To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multicast routing questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Mike Newell wrote: ... much deleted ... > [2] The second problem is sdr and sd do not see any sessions when run on > bigpuppy. When run from hosts on the office net I DO see them, so it > looks like our multicast access to MCI is working just fine. > Unfortunately I don't have another machine on my home net that's running > multicast software (we had to borrow my spare FBSD machine for work...) so > I don't know if bigpuppy is actually forwarding multicast packets to the > Ethernet. How embarrasing... :-( 15 minutes after I sent this message I noticed the netmask on the ppp0 interface on Pentup was set wrong. I set it right and *poof* - it seems to be working now. At least SDR shows stuff; good sign. Sigh... :-) Still can't use ppp0 as a native multicast interface though. :-( Thanks! Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 13:10:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA14952 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (root@silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14941 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.7.5/8.6.9) id XAA05361; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:09:41 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:09:41 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199607172009.XAA05361@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: "Ran d'Adi" , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: olwm In-Reply-To: References: <199607071740.VAA02884@styx.aic.net> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White writes: > > olwm doesn't support 16 bit mode then. There are several apps that don't > like 16 bit mode (vic, for instance); it's not uncommon. > For vic this is not true any longer. 2.7b3 onward supports 16bpp. Pete From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 13:15:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA15643 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dada.kaizen.net (dada.kaizen.net [206.27.236.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA15616; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by dada.kaizen.net via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id QAA13202; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:13:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:12:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Newell To: Bill Fenner cc: questions@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multicast routing questions In-Reply-To: <96Jul17.123819pdt.177482@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Bill Fenner wrote: > >[1] The first problem is when I bring up mrouted it does not like > >interface PPP0 and I have to disable it. This is a long standing problem; > >even though the PPP interfaces are marked as multicast capable mrouted > >will not recognize them. > > Sorry, I've forgotten the exact failure here. Could you remind me > exactly what happens? You get an error about being unable to establish an address... Hang on, lemme give it a run... debug level 2 16:08:38.015 mrouted version 3.8 16:08:38.040 Getting vifs from kernel interfaces 16:08:38.041 installing ed1 (206.27.237.17 on subnet 206.27.237.16/28) as vif #0 - rate=0 16:08:38.041 installing ppp0 (206.27.237.14 on subnet 206.27.237.12/30) as vif #1 - rate=0 16:08:38.041 Getting vifs from /etc/mrouted.conf 16:08:38.042 Installing vifs in mrouted... 16:08:38.042 vif #0, phyint 206.27.237.17 16:08:38.043 vif #1, phyint 206.27.237.14 16:08:38.044 warning - can't join group 224.0.0.4 on interface 206.27.237.14: Can't assign requested address 16:08:38.045 warning - can't join group 224.0.0.2 on interface 206.27.237.14: Can't assign requested address 16:08:38.047 setsockopt IP_MULTICAST_IF 206.27.237.14: Can't assign requested address At the time you explained that it had to do with ppp interfaces wanting to share addresses with the Ethernet and sent a patch to circumvent this. I tried the patch to no avail... > >[2] The second problem is sdr and sd do not see any sessions when run on > >bigpuppy. > > Do you have a network route for net 224? You probably want to add something > like Yeah, I blew it. I had the wrong subnet mask set on the ppp interface at the office end. I had routing problems too; I just assumed it was a RIP problem and staticed everything. Pays to NOT set stuff up at 2am when you started the day at 6 the previous am!! :-) BTW, where should the 224 route point? On my system ("badpuppy") it's pointing at the Ethernet; is that correct? Thanks!! Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 13:38:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA17962 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from litle.net (wizard.litle.com [205.139.20.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA17954 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Dark-Star.litle.net (ln-laser-1) by litle.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26743; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:35:30 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960717203706.00676bec@litle.net> X-Sender: s_khan@litle.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:37:06 -0400 To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: "Saqib A. Khan" Subject: Licensing Cc: Saqib.A.Khan@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: I read the licensing information on the Web page(www.freesbsd.com) , i did'nt quite understand it. Heres what i'd like to do- Build a custom PC running straight FreeBSD & a custom, proprietary application that i have developed and sell the whole bundle as product X. Can i do this, what exactly are the licensing issues? I'd appreciate any level of detail provided. (Pls send all replies CC'ed to both email addr's). Thanks in advance. --------------------------------------------------- Saqib A. Khan Architect, Information Security Strategic Network Consulting Voice: 617.433.7117 Saqib.A.Khan@worldnet.att.net --------------------------------------------------- "Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" -Juvenal, c. 100 C.E. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 13:45:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA18655 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18648 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA21733 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@FreeBSD.org); Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:39:37 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA02097; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:35:06 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607171835.LAA02097@starshine> Subject: Re: can't delete rcp To: roberte@beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Robert Eckardt) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jim@starshine.org, mcnab@bayarea.net, kelly@fsl.noaa.gov, black@mr.net, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607171040.MAA22194@beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> from "Robert Eckardt" at Jul 17, 96 12:40:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > | chflags noschg rcp > [..] > > One question I do have about chflags -- I haven't seen a > > corresponding 'lsflags' or any way to query the fs for > > information about which flags are set. Is there one? > > How to I find out the flags state without changing them? > > ls -lo > Robert, Silly me. I figured that the ls command would be consistent between the two OS'. 'ls -o' in Linux enables the color option. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 13:55:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA19399 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (axp5.fddi5B.fu-berlin.de [160.45.5.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA19388 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mordillo (lislip.physik.fu-berlin.de [160.45.33.82]) by axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA10997 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:33:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA04333 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:19:12 +0200 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199607172019.WAA04333@mordillo> Subject: booteasy To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:19:12 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i'm trying to get OpenBSD booted from my second ide disk - on the first is FreeBSD with booteasy installed - it also says fine: F1: BSD F2: disk2 but after pressing F2 i get the same menu - i know i had the same problem with NetBSD some time ago and got it somehoe working - but can't remember how - can anybody tell me a bit more about how booteasy works ? i think all trivial things are ok: * wd1 is < 540 mb * wd1 is in the bios * wd1 has a correct fdisk entry (made again with the FreeBSD fdisk) * the OpenBSD (the only one) partition ismarked active * it has a correct OpenBSD bootblock on it * there's no booteasy on that second disk (resulting in ping pong between the two booteasy's) * the OpenBSD partition is the full disk any ideas ? - thanks in advance t p.s.: how about making it possible to boot each of the *BSD's with the other bootloaders - i can boot FreeBSD with the NetBSD (1.1) one - but not vice versa - Open- and FreeBSD are both not bootable by the other block - i think there can't be much of a difference in them -- thomas graichen graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de graichen@FreeBSD.org perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away antoine de saint-exupery From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 13:56:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA19508 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hammurabi.nh.ultra.net (hammurabi.nh.ultra.net [205.162.79.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA19503 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from larry ([192.32.36.129]) by hammurabi.nh.ultra.net (8.7.4/dae0.6) with SMTP id QAA09914; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31ED1C97.41C67EA6@qosnet.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:02:15 +0000 From: Greg Burch X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: png@qosnet.com Subject: Triton II workaround? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help on this one or point us to someone who can? We get the following messages when we boot Triton-II's using FreeBSD 2.1.0: pci0:0: Intel Corporation, device=0x1250, class=bridge (host) [no driver assigned] pci0:7: Intel Corporation, device=0x7000, class=bridge (isa) [no driver assigned] For comparison, we get these messages on our Tritons: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 We are using identical kernels on all machines. On the Triton-IIs, we do not get interrupts passed through to our interrupt handlers and we assume this has something to do with "no driver assigned". We have used a real simple DOS-based tickler on the Triton-IIs and the interrupts are detected. We'd appreciate thoughts regarding possible solutions. Thanks, Greg Burch Qosnetics From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 14:09:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA20418 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antares.aero.org (antares.aero.org [130.221.192.46]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA20412 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anpiel.aero.org (anpiel.aero.org [130.221.196.66]) by antares.aero.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24572; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607172108.OAA24572@antares.aero.org> To: Ken Marsh Cc: Nate Williams , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MAKEDEV making symbolic link, not mouse dev. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:35:51 PDT." Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:08:24 -0700 From: "Mike O'Brien" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Does this mean that ttyd0 may not be the right device after all? Maybe. Silly question: are you sure you have a serial mouse, and not a bus mouse? The generic kernel doesn't have bus mouse support in it. You have to copy the line for "mse0" out of the LINT config file and build a new kernel. Mike O'Brien From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 14:26:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA21688 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from piccolo.cco.caltech.edu (thankhuu@piccolo.cco.caltech.edu [131.215.48.151]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA21680 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by piccolo.cco.caltech.edu (8.6.12/DEI:4.45) id OAA09704; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:24:37 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:24:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Thanh Khuu X-Sender: thankhuu@piccolo To: James Raynard cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: can't mount root In-Reply-To: <199607141851.SAA04016@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, James Raynard wrote: > A simple way round this is to use the install floppy to boot from, > then type in > > wd(1,a)/kernel > > at the Boot: prompt. (The first letter is 'w' if you have 2 IDE > disks, 's' if you have 2 SCSI disks and 'h' if you have one of each). > I booted from the install floppy with the option you suggested but it still say: switching to wd1a (the wdxx might not be right, i can't remember) panic: cannot mount root From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 14:27:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA21805 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.wulaw.wustl.edu (server.wulaw.wustl.edu [128.252.251.249]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA21798 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from matt (ivy.wustl.edu [128.252.112.210]) by server.wulaw.wustl.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA10468 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:26:26 -0500 Message-ID: <31ED5A68.5E18@www.wulaw.wustl.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:26:00 -0500 From: Matt Rosenberg Organization: Washington University School of Law X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP server Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The man page for pppd and the FreeBSD handbook pages say nothing about the IPFORWARDING option being on in the kernel. Does it need to be? I am planning to compile a new kernel this week when I upgrade to 2.1.5 but I'd like it to be as small as possible. -- ============================================= Matt Rosenberg Washington University School of Law St. Louis, MO, USA matt@www.wulaw.wustl.edu http://www.wulaw.wustl.edu/~matt/ ============================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 14:53:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA24134 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24120; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main ([142.150.128.131]) by bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <801464(1)>; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:53:39 -0400 Message-ID: <31ED6043.7A09@utoronto.ca> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:50:59 -0400 From: edward.ing@utoronto.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: info@freebsd.org, support@cdrom.com Subject: No info on how to run Configuration Menu from installed BSD, and installing ports software. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk re: BSD 2.1, Walnut Creek CD distribution. I have successfully installed FreeBSD. However, the documentation provided on the CD-ROM has not given me enough information to do much further. In trying install the on-line documentation and read it, I encountered a few problems. I cannot resolve them myself because the problems relate to accessing the documents required to resolve the problems. (A chicken-and-egg problem.) Can you provide me the information to solve the following difficulties? First, I wanted to reconfigure a few things. Most importantly I wanted to reconfigure the HTTP documentation facility in order to be able to read the documentation so that I could fix my own problems. The first difficulty was that there is no documentation in the files on the CD-ROM which indicate how I can access the Configuration Menu from the installed BSD. The second difficulty arose when I booted from the Installation/boot disk and attempted run the HTTP Docs Menu from the installation/boot Configuration Menu. The Configuration Menu did not allow me to do this. The error message read, "This opton may not be used until after the system is installed," which is entirely inappropriate because the system is installed. Please provide me information on how to call up the Configuration Menu form the installed BSD so that I can make a "post installation" configuration. Secondly, failing in this attempt to access the vital HMTL documents, I attempted to install Netscape as per your instructions in the README.TXT file on the CD-ROM in order to be able to access the HMTL docs on my BSD Docs CD. The instructions say explicitly to do the following, #cd /usr/ports/net/netscape #make all install Netscape could not be installed as instructed. The error message read as follows "netscape-v112-export.i386-unknown-bsd.tar.Z does not seem to exist on the system Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.netscape.com [... etc.] Note that the PORTS filesystem is installed under /usr. I also attempted to install netscape as follows, #cd /usr/ports/net/netscape/files #make all install and this seemed to be more productive, except that I got this error "/usr: create/symlink failed, no inodes free Jan 20 18:20:08 freebsd /kernel: uid 0 on /usr: out of inodes," when Makefile tried to create directories. And because of this, I, inevitably got the following message when Makefile attempted to do an install, "install: netscape: No such file or directory *** Error code 1." Please instruct me how to get past these difficulties since it I cannot get past them myself because I cannot access the documentation required because of these difficulties. Thank you, Edward Ing (edward.ing@utoronto.ca) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 15:08:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA25012 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wam1.netrunner.net (wam1.netrunner.net [205.164.225.248]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25000 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from waveman@localhost) by wam1.netrunner.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA15283; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:15:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:15:05 -0400 Message-Id: <199607171815.OAA15283@wam1.netrunner.net> To: questions@freebsd.org X-URL: mailto:questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4-2 X-Personal_name: Jeff Craton From: waveman@wamnet.net Subject: scsi tape drives..... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk can someone recommend to me a good scsi tape drive that works well with freebsd? please email me directly... From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 15:48:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA28246 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer31.u.washington.edu (durang@homer31.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA28236 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer31.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA45609; Wed, 17 Jul 96 15:48:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:48:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: Blair Schmittel Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Incresing files In-Reply-To: <199607171947.NAA20159@strech.cyber-naut.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Blair Schmittel wrote: > How do you increase the limit on the # of files that can be open at any > one time? # of files, or # of processes? One thing which may help is in your Kernel configuration file. The line: maxusers # (where # is a number, perhaps less than 4) does not actually control the number of users who can log on, but the number of process that can run simultaneously. The maximum number of processes is set to 20 + 16 * maxusers, and 18 processes could be started at boot time, plus 15 or so when you start X Windows. Even a simple task like reading a 'man' page can start up 9 processes, so maxusers should be set to at least 4, even for a single user machine. You can get this info and more from: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook36.html#44 If you really mean 'files' and not 'processes' then I don't know! Ken Marsh From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 15:52:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA28558 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer31.u.washington.edu (durang@homer31.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA28553 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer31.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA131956; Wed, 17 Jul 96 15:50:56 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:50:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: "Mike O'Brien" Cc: Nate Williams , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MAKEDEV making symbolic link, not mouse dev. In-Reply-To: <199607172108.OAA24572@antares.aero.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The final result was that my mouse works on cuaa0, not ttyd0. Ken On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Mike O'Brien wrote: > > Does this mean that ttyd0 may not be the right device after all? > > Maybe. Silly question: are you sure you have a serial mouse, and not a > bus mouse? The generic kernel doesn't have bus mouse support in it. You > have to copy the line for "mse0" out of the LINT config file and build a > new kernel. > > Mike O'Brien > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 15:58:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA28992 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from croute.com (ishm2.croute.com [199.97.106.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA28985 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bldg1.croute.com by croute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00583; Wed, 17 Jul 96 17:58:24 CDT Received: from COMPUROUTE/SpoolDir by bldg1.croute.com (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 17 Jul 96 17:58:08 +600 Received: from SpoolDir by COMPUROUTE (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 17 Jul 96 17:57:58 +600 From: "Larry Dolinar" Organization: CompuRoute, Inc. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:57:51 +600 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: lpd, 3 parallel ports, and occasional lpd.core X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Larry Dolinar" X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <83233FF2470@bldg1.croute.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk greetings, folks... Hardware: clone 486DX-33 motherboard, Intel CPU 8MB RAM (4 9-chip, 4 3-chip, 30pin SIMMs) 3 IDE controller cards: floppy, IDE, and parallel/serial ports enabled on 1st parallel only on 2nd and 3rd (as lpt1 and lpt2) NE2000 clone NIC (GVC NX-16T) Maxtor 270MB IDE drive 3.5" floppy 16bit Cirrus VGA software: 2.1.0-RELEASE, GENERIC kernel filesystems: /dev/wd0a on / (local) /dev/wd0s1e on /usr (local) procfs on /proc (local) Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 24062 13524 8612 61% / /dev/wd0s1e 210954 56136 137940 29% /usr procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc OK, you can stop laughing now, but all I really want it to be is a nice little BSD printserver for our inkjets. The basic problem is that the box is slow to acknowledge print requests (even compared to an old HP 725), but reasonably quick to shove the data at the printers. Once in a while the OS will dump core (lpd.core) in the spool directory for the first printer (/usr/spool/lp0) and generally stop servicing print requests (and telnet) until the resulting child processes are killed (sorry, no current ps list available for the error condition). I'd like to keep using this box in this fashion, but don't know if I need to add more memory, cut down the kernel (suspect it's likely) or something else. The dmesg output is below: Jul 16 14:26:12 chub /kernel: FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov 16 10:47:14 1995 Jul 16 14:26:12 chub /kernel: jkh@westhill.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Jul 16 14:26:12 chub /kernel: CPU: i486DX (486-class CPU) Jul 16 14:26:12 chub /kernel: real memory = 8388608 (8192K bytes) Jul 16 14:26:12 chub /kernel: avail memory = 6557696 (6404K bytes) Jul 16 14:26:13 chub /kernel: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: Jul 16 14:26:13 chub /kernel: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard Jul 16 14:26:13 chub /kernel: sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> Jul 16 14:26:13 chub /kernel: ed0 at 0x300-0x31f irq 12 on isa Jul 16 14:26:13 chub /kernel: ed0: address 00:00:e8:c7:f7:83, type NE2000 (16 bit) Jul 16 14:26:13 chub /kernel: ed1: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:13 chub /kernel: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa Jul 16 14:26:13 chub /kernel: sio0: type 16450 Jul 16 14:26:13 chub /kernel: sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa Jul 16 14:26:13 chub /kernel: sio1: type 16450 Jul 16 14:26:13 chub /kernel: sio2: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:14 chub /kernel: sio3: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:14 chub /kernel: lpt0 at 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa Jul 16 14:26:14 chub /kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port Jul 16 14:26:14 chub /kernel: lp0: TCP/IP capable interface Jul 16 14:26:14 chub /kernel: lpt1 at 0x378-0x37f on isa Jul 16 14:26:14 chub /kernel: lpt2 at 0x278-0x27f on isa Jul 16 14:26:14 chub /kernel: mse0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:14 chub /kernel: fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa Jul 16 14:26:14 chub /kernel: fdc0: NEC 765 Jul 16 14:26:14 chub /kernel: fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in Jul 16 14:26:14 chub /kernel: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa Jul 16 14:26:14 chub /kernel: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): Jul 16 14:26:15 chub /kernel: wd0: 257MB (527450 sectors), 959 cyls, 11 heads, 50 S/T, 512 B/S Jul 16 14:26:15 chub /kernel: wdc1: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:15 chub /kernel: bt0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:15 chub /kernel: uha0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:15 chub /kernel: ahc1: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:16 chub /kernel: ahb0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:16 chub /kernel: aha0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:16 chub /kernel: aic0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:16 chub /kernel: nca0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:16 chub /kernel: nca1: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:16 chub /kernel: sea0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:16 chub /kernel: wt0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:16 chub /kernel: mcd0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:16 chub /kernel: mcd1: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:16 chub /kernel: matcdc0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:16 chub /kernel: scd0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:16 chub /kernel: ie0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:16 chub /kernel: ep0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:16 chub /kernel: ix0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:17 chub /kernel: le0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:17 chub /kernel: lnc0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:17 chub /kernel: lnc1: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:17 chub /kernel: ze0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:17 chub /kernel: zp0: disabled, not probed. Jul 16 14:26:17 chub /kernel: npx0 on motherboard Jul 16 14:26:17 chub /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Jul 16 14:26:22 chub lpd[94]: restarted Jul 16 14:26:29 chub /kernel: lpt0 switched to polled mode : : Jul 16 15:29:57 chub /kernel: pid 265: lpd: uid 0: exited on signal 11 : Jul 17 10:28:25 chub /kernel: pid 1211: lpd: uid 0: exited on signal 11 : Jul 17 10:42:21 chub /kernel: pid 1232: lpd: uid 0: exited on signal 11 I'd like to know what the signal 11 indicates (memory problems?). Discerning individuals will notice the I/O ports for lpt0-2 are skewed: made necessary by some hardware issue I don't yet understand. And is it a mistake to turn on polling for lpt0 in these circumstances? All comments welcomed. cheers, larry From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 16:00:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA29144 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from optim.ism.net ([205.199.12.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA29137 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from optim.ism.net (jdc@optim.ism.net [205.199.12.2]) by optim.ism.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA18629 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:17:15 -0600 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:17:14 -0600 (MDT) From: John-David Childs Reply-To: John-David Childs cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Uninstalling Kerberized passwd file?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk RECAP: I'm installing a new freebsd box but need compatibility with my BSDi/FreeBSD 2.1-R unix passwd files...it would appear that my new box is "Kerberized" but my old ones aren't. On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, jack wrote: > > > Did you remember to install (or not) DES support to match your 2.1-R > setup? > Aaargh! I just finished (again) going from 2.1 to 2.1-stable (aka 2.1.5) and BEFORE running pwd_mkdb I looked at the original passwd file....it DOES have $1$xxxxxx (I'm assuming this is because I did "make -DMAKE_EBONES") whereas my other boxes do not.... Short of redoing the whole thing again so as to NOT install EBONES or DES, is there any way to convert the password file to a non-Kerberos version so that I can maintain compatibility with my BSDi passwd file (or uninstall Kerberos) -- John-David Childs www.marsweb.com/www.ism.net System Administrator Internet Services Montana (406)721-6277 & Network Engineer M@RSWeb - Montana's PREMIER Web Site "I used up all my sick days...so I'm calling in dead" From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 16:02:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA29256 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer31.u.washington.edu (durang@homer31.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA29251 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer31.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA106197; Wed, 17 Jul 96 16:02:05 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:02:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel rebuild errors Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just attempted to rebuild my kernel using the instructions posted at: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook22.html#41 et. al. after doing the custom configuration file, MYKERNEL, the instructions say to: # /usr/sbin/config MYKERNEL # cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL # make depend # make # make install On the "# make" part of the process, the make was stopped after 4 or 5 minutes with countless errors. My theory is one of three, in order of likelyhood: 1) the instructions are for another version, not 2.0.5 (Walnut Creek CD). 2) I configured the MYKERNEL file incorrectly 3) I made a typo in the MYKERNEL file I'm sure that the exact error messages would be helpful in troubleshooting, but I have no idea where they might be logged, or how I might redirect them to a file. Any suggestions are welcomed. Ken Marsh From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 16:21:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA00245 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fw.tabula.com (fw.tabula.com [204.160.137.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA00240 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fw.tabula.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10564; Wed, 17 Jul 96 16:21:38 PDT Received: from tab012.tabula.com(204.119.64.12) by fw.tabula.com via smap (V1.3) id sma010562; Wed Jul 17 16:21:17 1996 Received: by tabula.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05770; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:19:48 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:19:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Thor Clark To: "T. William Wells" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs? after resetting rtq_reallyold In-Reply-To: <4sg66v$9e@twwells.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 16 Jul 1996, T. William Wells wrote: > In article , > Thor Clark wrote: > : Am I out of space for new processes, or out of mbufs, or? > > You may also have user processes that group without limit. See > if you can get a systat or other *stat running on a virtual > console when the problem occurs; it might show interesting > results. Thanks for the pointers - I can't seem to shake this one - I've combed the mailing list, and found 3-4 others who've had exactly the same problem, but haven't seen a solution anywhere, and no bug reported - I'll put as much information as I can here - am I missing something simple?. My apologies for the length of this post. Any ideas,tests cheerfully tried. problem: After a few hours of activity, system will not start new processes of any kind. It will respond to pings, but that's about all - no telnet, login, http, etc. Background and interactive processes continue to run, but killing off interactive processes does not have any effect on the system - the only recourse is to physically reboot. This is now happening every ~3 hours. No kernel panic occurs, and no kernel messages are ever logged. The system has never recovered on its own ( down once for > 12 hours). system: 2.1 Release (from cd) - kernel recompiled, installed with maxusers 128 options "NMBCLUSTERS=2048" options "OPEN_MAX=256" options "CHILD_MAX=256" 16M, IDE, ASUS P55TP4, 3C509 ethernet runs CERN3.0 httpd, sends out a lot of mail, a few minor background processes, and a lot of short-term, cpu intensive scripts I ran an fstat | wc -l a few seconds before the last lockup, it returned 347. Generally this is about 200-250. Is this high? I'll try pretty much anything at this point... Thanks -Thor Clark (logs below) Some data: from (sysctl -a) kern.maxvnodes = 2813 kern.maxproc = 2068 kern.maxfiles = 4136 kern.maxfilesperproc = 4136 kern.maxprocperuid = 2067 (top) - while machine is locked (I've never seen load > 2 when system is ok) load averages: 5.70, 3.08, 1.64 16:56:53 51 processes: 1 running, 45 sleeping, 1 stopped, 4 zombie Cpu states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.4% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.6% idle Memory: 7552K Active, 2668K Inact, 2708K Wired, 1104K Cache, 64K Free Swap: 82M Total, 63M Free, 24% Inuse (vmstat -w 5) - while machine is locked procs memory page disks faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr f0 w0 w2 in sy cs us sy id 5 9 0 31328 608 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 229 13 3 0 0 100 610 0 55660 1484 23 2 9 31 14 1784 0 40 0 902 1808 62 4 12 84 610 0 55660 1476 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 287 5163 59 8 15 77 610 0 55660 1384 5 1 2 0 4 0 0 2 0 273 38 7 0 1 99 711 0 51820 1020 20 0 5 0 11 0 0 5 0 371 24 10 0 2 97 712 0 51328 904 10 0 2 0 6 0 0 4 2 331 13 6 0 2 98 712 0 44692 904 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 235 11 3 0 1 99 712 0 40436 904 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 229 11 3 0 0 100 713 0 35856 908 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 241 15 4 0 0 100 713 0 31476 860 17 3 6 0 26 0 0 13 0 417 75 20 0 3 97 714 0 35696 1060 4 0 2 0 15 0 0 3 0 272 22 7 0 2 98 (iostat -w 1) - while machine is locked tin tout sps tps msps sps tps msps sps tps msps us ni sy in id 355 753 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 16 1 0.0 3 0 10 0 87 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 0 99 0 627 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 0 99 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0100 0 141 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 1 0 0 1 98 (tout #'s are characters written by top) So, near as I can tell, everything slows down, and no new processes are created... don't know what else to try. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 16:31:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA00665 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer14.u.washington.edu (durang@homer14.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA00660 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer14.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23683; Wed, 17 Jul 96 16:31:05 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:31:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: questions@freeBSD.org Subject: Kernel rebuild errors Part II Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In regard to the kernel rebuild errors message of today, about 30 minutes ago, The majority of the errors are of the form: ../../pci/if_dc.c:####: derefernecing pointer to incomplete type Where #### is a four-digit number, such as 1845. Ken From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 16:35:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA01040 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer14.u.washington.edu (durang@homer14.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01035 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer14.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA45056; Wed, 17 Jul 96 16:35:52 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:35:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Video blinking at login prompt. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just noticed a recent development that bothers me... When I boot and get a login prompt, about two seconds after the prompt appears, the screen goes blank for a split second, three times. If I am typing my login name or password during the event, keystrokes are lost. The only change I made that would coincide with this change is that I installed the Xwindows distribution, which isn't properly configured to run as of yet. Does installing Xwindows make changes to /etc/rc or something to launch at boot time? I made no such changes manually.... Ken Marsh From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 16:46:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA01736 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www (quicklink.com [204.32.218.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01729 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atorrey (us1-s30.quicklink.com) by www (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13030; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 19:43:51 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960718004305.00703778@quicklink.com> X-Sender: atorrey@quicklink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 19:43:05 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org From: allan torrey Subject: hrlp Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I'm doing an emergency server install, using FreeBSD. I'm a novice, and am having a tough time. Can you tell me please: can I install using the Teac 4speed 55a CDROM drive, which attaches to soundblaster? I'm getting "no drive found" messages for both cdrom and scsi Future domain 18cxx. Thanks. Allan Torrey From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 17:03:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02952 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamespot.com (ns1.gamespot.com [206.169.18.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02947 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tech-a.gamespot.com (tech-a.gamespot.com [206.169.18.59]) by gamespot.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA18923 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:52:52 GMT Message-Id: <199607171652.QAA18923@gamespot.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ian Kallen" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:58:01 +0000 Subject: Re: Incresing files Reply-to: ian@gamespot.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You are getting the same kernel errors I'm getting? "File Table Full" ? I'd really like to hear from others how they get around this. > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:47:30 -0600 > From: Blair Schmittel > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Incresing files > > Hello; > > How do you increase the limit on the # of files that can be open at any one time? > > Thanks, > Blair > > Ian Kallen ian@gamespot.com Director of Technology & Web Administration http://www.gamespot.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 17:09:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA03470 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA03450 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA13212 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:08:56 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA00451; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:07:50 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607180007.RAA00451@starshine> Subject: Re: Free BSD and Security To: root@andrsn.stanford.edu (Charlie ROOT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jim@starshine.org, celestyte@pb.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Charlie ROOT" at Jul 17, 96 12:37:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Jim Dennis wrote: (on security) > > > > > Use vipw to look for unusual accounts (like sync, toor or ruut, > > man, guest). Make sure that their password fields are *'d out. > > > > > > Other questions/suggestions: > > (precede most of these with "Did you"... or "Do you want > > to" > > [list deleted] > > > > Jim Dennis, > > Starshine Technical Services > > > This is really good and last time I looked there wasn't anything like > this in the handbook, not only for "real" system administrators but > for individuals who install FreeBSD (and probably have an Internet > connection of one kind or another) and are in effect their own > (inexperienced) sysadmins. > > Annelise It's one of the things I hope to adapt to HTML for my web pages (www.starshine.org). I'm not much of a programmer -- but I'm working on being a bang up sysadmin. (Then, later, I may branch out -- and I'm not too bad at scripting and CGI work). Jim Dennis, Starshine Technical Services From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 17:15:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA03825 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antares.aero.org (antares.aero.org [130.221.192.46]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03814 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anpiel.aero.org (anpiel.aero.org [130.221.196.66]) by antares.aero.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA27066 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607180015.RAA27066@antares.aero.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SMC 8432BT or 8432T PCI card: do they work? Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:14:55 -0700 From: "Mike O'Brien" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I looked through the list of supported Ethernet cards on the FreeBSD Web pages and did not see the SMC 8432BT or 8432T PCI card. Is there anyone out there using this card? Does anyone know if it looks enough like one of the others to work successfully with FreeBSD? Thanks. Mike O'Brien From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 17:15:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA03860 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.rutgers.edu (pegasus.rutgers.edu [128.6.10.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA03852 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (paradox@localhost) by pegasus.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.5) id UAA12632; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 20:15:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 96 20:15:26 EDT From: Red Barchetta Subject: [allan torrey : hrlp] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, atorrey@quicklink.com Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Hello. > >I'm doing an emergency server install, using FreeBSD. I'm a novice, and am >having a tough time. Can you tell me please: can I install using the Teac >4speed 55a CDROM drive, which attaches to soundblaster? I'm getting "no >drive found" messages for both cdrom and scsi Future domain 18cxx. > >Thanks. > >Allan Torrey Allan- I'm fairly new at this myself... I know the FreeBSD GENERIC kernel does not come with sound card support by default. I would assume this includes support for *any* part of the sound card, including the IDE channel on it. If you have a free IDE port on the motherboard, try plugging the CD-ROM in there instead. Good luck! Ernie Pistor From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 18:02:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA05471 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (root@cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA05465 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from why.whine.com ([205.150.249.1]) by mail.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <115957-18470>; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:02:36 -0400 Received: from why (andrew@why [205.150.249.1]) by why.whine.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA03652 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:01:59 -0400 From: Andrew Herdman X-Sender: andrew@why To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: using tftpd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've been using tftpd on a Sun (SunOS 4.1.3) to save router configurations from Cisco's & Ascends. I've tried to do this on my FreeBSD box but it always fails. I always get this message when I try to start tftpd. Has anyone had any luck saving configurations using tftp from Cisco's or Ascends? Jul 17 20:59:30 why tftpd[3643]: recvfrom: Socket operation on non-socket Thanks Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 18:13:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA05968 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA05963 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA25787; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:11:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Mike O'Brien" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: SMC 8432BT or 8432T PCI card: do they work? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:14:55 PDT." <199607180015.RAA27066@antares.aero.org> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:11:35 -0400 Message-ID: <25783.837652295@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Mike O'Brien" wrote in message ID <199607180015.RAA27066@antares.aero.org>: > I looked through the list of supported Ethernet cards on the FreeBSD > Web pages and did not see the SMC 8432BT or 8432T PCI card. Is there anyone > out there using this card? Does anyone know if it looks enough like > one of the others to work successfully with FreeBSD? They are both supported as they both are based on the DEC 2104x chipset, which is supported by the `de' driver. Newer cards (based on the DEC 21041 rather than the 21040) *MAY* have a problem in that the driver has problems with some 21041's, but I run a SMC8432BT (combo) card at home fine. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 18:20:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA06368 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skeg.cst.com.au (skeg.cst.com.au [203.61.252.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA06363 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bala@localhost) by skeg.cst.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.11) id LAA03186 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:20:17 +1000 From: Bala Periasamy Message-Id: <199607180120.LAA03186@skeg.cst.com.au> Subject: Excite Software To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:20:17 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to install the Excite serach engine for the web servers. The perl bombs out. It is for BSDI. Has anyone installed for FreeBSD Any help thanx bala From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 18:51:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA08516 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08511 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uplink.eng.umd.edu (uplink.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.181]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17421; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by uplink.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA25881; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:51:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@uplink.eng.umd.edu To: Greg Burch cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, png@qosnet.com Subject: Re: Triton II workaround? In-Reply-To: <31ED1C97.41C67EA6@qosnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Greg Burch wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if anyone could help on this one or point us to someone > who can? > > We get the following messages when we boot Triton-II's using FreeBSD > 2.1.0: > pci0:0: Intel Corporation, device=0x1250, class=bridge (host) [no driver > assigned] > pci0:7: Intel Corporation, device=0x7000, class=bridge (isa) [no driver > assigned] > > For comparison, we get these messages on our Tritons: > chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 > chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 > > We are using identical kernels on all machines. On the Triton-IIs, we do > not get interrupts passed through to our interrupt handlers and we > assume this has something to do with "no driver assigned". > > We have used a real simple DOS-based tickler on the Triton-IIs and the > interrupts are detected. With my new Tyan Tomcat board, supposedly Triton II, I'm showing a dmesg fragment here of: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 0 on pci0:7:0 pci0:7:1: Intel Corporation, device=0x7010, class=storage (ide) [no driver assigned] The last line is because I've gone into the Award Bios and disabled the IDE controller (I run a SCSI only system). I don't think you have a generic Triton II problem. Inspected your PCI bios settings? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 18:51:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA08532 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bdd.net (bdd.net [207.61.119.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08527 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by bdd.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA09089; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:51:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Stein To: Andrew Herdman cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: using tftpd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Andrew Herdman wrote: > I've been using tftpd on a Sun (SunOS 4.1.3) to save router configurations > from Cisco's & Ascends. I've tried to do this on my FreeBSD box but it > ... > Jul 17 20:59:30 why tftpd[3643]: recvfrom: Socket operation on non-socket I had the same error a while back with tftp. I fixed it, and a couple of other things at the same time when I added the Berkely Packet filter to my kernel. Are you using it? I was getting a Sun to boot from my FreeBSD box, so it might have been rarp that needed it. See ... pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter ... in lint. -- mat. +-Matthew Stein-------------------------------------------- matt@bdd.net-+ | Network Design phone: +1 519 823-8577 | | ButtonDown Digital fax: +1 519 823-9556 | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 20:05:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA12348 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 20:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12339 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 20:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srmail.sr.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA117959091; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 20:04:52 -0700 Received: from hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com by srmail.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA097429090; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 20:04:50 -0700 Received: from mina.sr.hp.com by hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA219489089; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 20:04:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199607180304.AA219489089@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com> To: Greg Burch Cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Triton II workaround? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:02:15 -0000." Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 20:04:49 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > We get the following messages when we boot Triton-II's using FreeBSD > 2.1.0: > pci0:0: Intel Corporation, device=0x1250, class=bridge (host) [no driver > assigned] > pci0:7: Intel Corporation, device=0x7000, class=bridge (isa) [no driver > assigned] I just got an ASUS P55T2P4, and it works great, despite my getting identical messages at bootup (this is with 2.1R): pci0:0: Intel Corporation, device=0x1250, class=bridge (host) [no driver assigned] pci0:7: Intel Corporation, device=0x7000, class=bridge (isa) [no driver assigned] I'm using a DTC 3130B PCI SCSI controller (Symbios/NCR 815-based), which uses interrupts (int a/irq 11), and it's performing wonderfully. Even with a lowly Quantum Fireball 1280S, bonnie gives (the following has been edited for clarity): ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- bash$ time bonnie -s 256 File './Bonnie.251', size: 268435456 -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 256 4267 86.3 4393 19.2 1207 8.3 4118 77.9 4620 17.8 56.8 2.5 537.92 real 81.89 user 62.83 sys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (I used a file size of 256MB because this system has 64MB RAM.) Also, these numbers are probably a tad low, because the test file was located on the inner tracks on the drive. -- Darryl Okahata Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 21:06:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA19653 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strech.cyber-naut.com (strech.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA19645 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ebola.cyber-naut.com (ebola.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.4]) by strech.cyber-naut.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA20126; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:06:06 -0600 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:06:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199607180406.WAA20126@strech.cyber-naut.com> X-Sender: blair@mail.cyber-naut.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Ken Marsh From: Blair Schmittel Subject: Re: Incresing files Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 03:48 PM 7/17/96 -0700, you wrote: >On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Blair Schmittel wrote: > >> How do you increase the limit on the # of files that can be open at any >> one time? > > ># of files, or # of processes? > >One thing which may help is in your Kernel configuration file. The line: > >maxusers # (where # is a number, perhaps less than 4) > >does not actually control the number of users who can log on, but the >number of process that can run simultaneously. The maximum number of >processes is set to 20 + 16 * maxusers, and 18 processes could be started >at boot time, plus 15 or so when you start X Windows. Even a simple task >like reading a 'man' page can start up 9 processes, so maxusers should be >set to at least 4, even for a single user machine. > >You can get this info and more from: > >http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook36.html#44 > >If you really mean 'files' and not 'processes' then I don't know! > >Ken Marsh # of files, as in the "pstat -T" command. Right now my maxusers is 10. Any other ideas? Thanks, Blair ---------------------------------- Blair Schmittel Manager of Operations Cyber-Naut admin@cyber-naut.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 21:27:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA21469 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA21459 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:27:35 -0700 (PDT) From: MichaelGoe@aol.com Received: by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA08311; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:26:22 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:26:22 -0400 Message-ID: <960718002617_436660511@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: sameer@c2.net cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are there any Freebsd books? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk try www.bookpool.com for some great books at great prices! Michael G. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 21:30:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA21691 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA21683 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:30:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00239; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:30:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Paisley, Todd G." cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: 3com 3C590 PCI ethernet card In-Reply-To: <31ED5FED@smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Paisley, Todd G. wrote: > We did some upgrades to one of our servers and put in a 3Com 3C509 PCI > ethernet card. FreeBSD 2.1 installed just beautifully except for one minor > problem. It can't find the ethernet card. Is there a trick to getting this > to work with this card? Even at boot up when it is looking at the cards on > the PCI bus, it doesn't list the card as an option. Thought it might be a > bad vard, but a known good card does the exact same thing? Any thoughts? Boot -c and configure ep0 to the proper irq and base address. And turn off Plug n Pray. :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 21:36:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA21987 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA21982 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net (cola106.scsn.net [206.25.247.106]) by rosie.scsn.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-13529) with ESMTP id AAA118; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:37:57 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id AAA00603; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:35:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald J. Maddox" Message-Id: <199607180435.AAA00603@rhiannon.scsn.net> Subject: Re: Triton II workaround? To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:35:23 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, dmaddox@scsn.net In-Reply-To: from Chuck Robey at "Jul 17, 96 09:51:04 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > With my new Tyan Tomcat board, supposedly Triton II, I'm showing a dmesg > fragment here of: > Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > chip0 rev 1 on > pci0:0 > chip1 rev 0 on > pci0:7:0 > pci0:7:1: Intel Corporation, device=0x7010, class=storage (ide) [no > driver assigned] > > The last line is because I've gone into the Award Bios and disabled the > IDE controller (I run a SCSI only system). I don't think you have a > generic Triton II problem. Inspected your PCI bios settings? I have an ASUS P/I-P55T2P4... Here's a snippet from dmesg: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 0 on pci0:7: 0 pci0:7:1: Intel Corporation, device=0x7010, class=storage (ide) [no driver assig ned] My IDE controller is NOT disabled, but as you see, I get essentially the same last line. I have an Adaptec 2940UW and a Diamond Stealth 2M VRAM video card on the PCI bus and have noticed no problems with either. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 21:36:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA22033 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA22026 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00246; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Thomas Graichen cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: booteasy In-Reply-To: <199607172019.WAA04333@mordillo> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Thomas Graichen wrote: > i'm trying to get OpenBSD booted from my second ide disk - on the first is > FreeBSD with booteasy installed - it also says fine: > > F1: BSD > F2: disk2 > > but after pressing F2 i get the same menu - i know i had the same problem with > NetBSD some time ago and got it somehoe working - but can't remember how - can > anybody tell me a bit more about how booteasy works ? You'll get this if the geometry on the disk (2) is wrong in the bootblocks. I don't know how OpenBSD does it but it will have to be reinstalled and the correct geometry used. > p.s.: how about making it possible to boot each of the *BSD's with the other > bootloaders - i can boot FreeBSD with the NetBSD (1.1) one - but not vice > versa - Open- and FreeBSD are both not bootable by the other block - i think > there can't be much of a difference in them I would have through that you could use the Boot: loader and type wd(1,a)/kernel and get the other system. All the block does is jump to the appropriate point and start exec'ing the kernel. The original bootblock was adapted from Mach, so the sequence must be similar across Unixes. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 21:47:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA22584 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA22572 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00266; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:46:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: ALHACK@am.pnu.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD disk drivers In-Reply-To: <1ed33f50@am.pnu.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996 ALHACK@am.pnu.com wrote: > I loaded FreeBSD 2.1.0 (in a user configuration) on a computer with about a > 500MB drive in a dual boot mode with DOS. Both BSD and DOS work well. > > When I tried to load BSD on another computer (dual boot mode) with a 1083.8 > MB drive the system seems to load but will not boot. Some preliminary > verbage is displayed and then the "Boot:" is displayed (seems normal so > far). Then the "bar" is displayed but does not "spin" - the system just > hangs. Yes, DOS still boots! > > The controller is a Promise EIDE2300 PLUS VESA Local Bus with on board BIOS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is it. The Promise is not compatible with FreeBSD. Replace it with another IDE controller. (Some suggest to disable the onboard BIOS but this doesn't always work) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 21:49:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA22688 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA22683 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00270; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:49:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: allan torrey cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hrlp In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960718004305.00703778@quicklink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, allan torrey wrote: > Hello. > > I'm doing an emergency server install, using FreeBSD. I'm a novice, and am > having a tough time. Can you tell me please: can I install using the Teac > 4speed 55a CDROM drive, which attaches to soundblaster? I'm getting "no > drive found" messages for both cdrom and scsi Future domain 18cxx. Nope. The 55a isn't supported. I don't think the Future Domain is either :(, but someone will have to check me on that. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 21:52:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA22841 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA22835 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00277; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:52:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Joel Yancey cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is it back (2.1.5R)? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Joel Yancey wrote: > i looked on ftp.freebsd.org and there no longer 700, does that mean it's > re-released? or not? 'tis. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 21:57:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA22960 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA22955 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00285; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:57:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Saqib A. Khan" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, Saqib.A.Khan@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: Licensing In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960717203706.00676bec@litle.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Saqib A. Khan wrote: > Hi: > I read the licensing information on the Web page(www.freesbsd.com) , i > did'nt quite understand it. Heres what i'd like to do- > > Build a custom PC running straight FreeBSD & a custom, proprietary > application that i have developed and sell the whole bundle as product X. > > Can i do this, what exactly are the licensing issues? >From what I understand of the licensing, yes, you can do that. All that you have to really worry about is labeling. You shoud ask Jordan Hubbard for the definitive answer though. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 22:01:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA23159 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23148 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00292; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:01:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Larry Dolinar cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lpd, 3 parallel ports, and occasional lpd.core In-Reply-To: <83233FF2470@bldg1.croute.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Larry Dolinar wrote: > OK, you can stop laughing now, but all I really want it to be is a nice > little BSD printserver for our inkjets. The basic problem is that the > box is slow to acknowledge print requests (even compared to an old HP > 725), but reasonably quick to shove the data at the printers. Printing from my OS/2-based laptop to my FreeBSD box driving a DJ 500C does take a little bit on my setup. Once the job is sent though the printer will fire up. > Jul 16 15:29:57 chub /kernel: pid 265: lpd: uid 0: exited on signal 11 > : > Jul 17 10:28:25 chub /kernel: pid 1211: lpd: uid 0: exited on signal 11 > : > Jul 17 10:42:21 chub /kernel: pid 1232: lpd: uid 0: exited on signal 11 > > > I'd like to know what the signal 11 indicates (memory problems?). > Discerning individuals will notice the I/O ports for lpt0-2 are skewed: > made necessary by some hardware issue I don't yet understand. And is it > a mistake to turn on polling for lpt0 in these circumstances? Errors like these will come up if you have corrupted memory or cache. You can try replacing the memory. And if it handles quite a bit of traffic then a memory increase wouldn't be such a bad idea (especially looking at memory prices nowadays). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 22:03:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA23288 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23281 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00296; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:02:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Eka Kelana cc: questions@freebsd.org, smu_16@jakarta.wasantara.net.id Subject: Re: Mailing list In-Reply-To: <3B41590136@jambi.wasantara.net.id> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Eka Kelana wrote: > I would like to know whether any mailing list exists in FreeBSD.org domain. > If somebody here knows about a miling list which discuss network programming, > please tell me.... :-) > Send reply to me through both of these e-mail address: > > kandi@jambi.wasantara.net.id > smu_16@jakarta.wasantara.net.id Well, you're writing to one :-) For a list of mailing lists, write to majordomo@freebsd.org and put in the message body: lists That will return a list of lists via email. To subscribe to one, just send a mail to majordomo with: subscribe list-name to get on it. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 22:11:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA23648 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23642 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00307; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:10:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Jason Garman cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: network weirdness? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Jason Garman wrote: > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > localhost localhost UH 0 0 lo0 > garman-net link#1 UC 0 0 > jason 2:60:8c:1b:3d:d5 UHLW 0 4 lo0 > art 2:60:8c:e:65:ae UHLW 3 295 eg0 441 > > The last two entries of course appear after I've established a connection... > > Any ideas????? Where is your default route? I bet it won't ARP because it has no clue how to get to that machine. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 22:18:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA24817 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA24808 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00324; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:17:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Blaine Minazzi cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: networking Linux <--> FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <31EBB63D.630E51FF@w3page.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Blaine Minazzi wrote: > Congratulations to the FreeBSD crowd. You managed to reduce me to > a quivering mass of nerves. After looking through the massive > ( lack ) of documentation :-( , I have to do the one thing > all grown men hate to do the most. Ask for help... Well, you know, you can do something about that...:-) > Here is something that should be rather simple. > Connect a Linux and FreeBSD box using TCP/IP. > I have done this with Linux <--> Linux, but, > for the life of me, I cannot talk to the BSD machine. First timer? > My /etc/hosts files are > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 172.16.0.10 orion.whatever.com orion > 172.16.0.20 xenu.whatever.com xenu Is this a private net or what? The 0 net number is odd, I don't usually see that. Are you sure that's right? > my networks file is > 172.16.0.0 what-net > I ifconfig 172.16.0.10 ( and .20 ) to the devices eth0 and ed1 > on the 2 machines respectively. > > Now on the linux box, I route add orion, > and route add what-net > > I am not so clear on the BSD side of things. > > There is a slight syntax differnece, and have read the man pages, > etc... > > > Also, could someone be so kind as to give me some info > on the /etc/sysconfig file... How is yours set up? The relevant sections from my 2.1.5 /etc/sysconfig. You probably need to edit the sections with *********'s. ######################### Start Of Netconfig Section ####################### # Set to the name of your host - this is pretty important! hostname=gdi.uoregon.edu # Set to the NIS domainname of your host, or NO if none defaultdomainname=NO # # Some broken implementations can't handle the RFC 1323 and RFC 1644 # TCP options. If TCP connections randomly hang, try disabling this, # and bug the vendor of the losing equipment. # tcp_extensions=YES # If you're running PCNFSD or anything else which requires mountd to allow # non-root requests for NFS mounts, set this to YES. weak_mountd_authentication=YES # # Set to the list of network devices on this host. You must have an # ifconfig_${network_interface} line for each interface listed here. # for example: # # network_interfaces="ed0 sl0 lo0" # # ifconfig_ed0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00" # ifconfig_sl0="inet 10.0.1.0 netmask 0xffffff00" # ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" # # ********* do your network device config here! (uncomment first) #network_interfaces="lo0 ed0" #ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" #ifconfig_ed0="inet 128.223.186.250 netmask 255.255.254.0" #No-network config # network_interfaces="lo0" ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" # # Set to the list of route add lines for this host. You must have a # route_${static_routes} line for each static route listed here (unless # static_routes is set to "" - do NOT use ``NO'' to denote a lack of static # routes!). # #static_routes="foo multicast" #route_foo="woofo woofo-gw" #route_multicast="224.0.0.0 -netmask 0xf0000000 -interface 10.0..0.1" #static_routes="multicast loopback" #route_loopback="gdi localhost" #route_multicast="224.0.0.0 -netmask 0xf0000000 -interface gdi" static_routes="loopback" route_loopback="gdi localhost" # Set to the host you'd like set as your default router, or NO for none. # This is the same as adding a ``default'' entry to static_routes. # ******** set this to your gateway. #defaultrouter=128.223.170.1 defaultrouter=NO # This is the routing daemon you want to use. Possible options are # currently NO (for none), `routed' and `gated'. Also see `routerflags' # for startup flags. router=NO All you really need is the default route and everything else will be handled. BSD doesn't really make use of the /etc/networks or associated files. Or at least I don't. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 22:23:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA25276 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA25271 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00348; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:23:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: edward.ing@utoronto.ca cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No info on how to run Configuration Menu from installed BSD, and installing ports software. In-Reply-To: <31ED6043.7A09@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please try to keep down the cc: ing. It's redundant, especially with questions@freebsd.org (main support) in the list :) On Wed, 17 Jul 1996 edward.ing@utoronto.ca wrote: > Secondly, failing in this attempt to access the vital HMTL documents, I > attempted to install Netscape as per your instructions in the README.TXT > file on the CD-ROM in order to be able to access the HMTL docs on my > BSD Docs CD. The instructions say explicitly to do the following, > #cd /usr/ports/net/netscape > #make all install > > Netscape could not be installed as instructed. The error message read > as follows > "netscape-v112-export.i386-unknown-bsd.tar.Z does not > seem to exist on the system > Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.netscape.com [... etc.] That port is horribly out of date. Just go through netscape's download system and pull the BSD-i386 binary. Then unpack in a convenient place (/usr/X11R6 is a good place), symlink X11R6 to X11 (ln -s X11R6 X11) then run it. Then you should be able to use 'open file' and get to /usr/share/doc/ and open what you want. Go for the table of contents (toc) first. > and this seemed to be more productive, except that I got this error > > "/usr: create/symlink failed, no inodes free > Jan 20 18:20:08 freebsd /kernel: uid 0 on /usr: out of inodes," What do you have on the disk? You shouldn't get this. Run 'df -ik' and send back the output. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 22:32:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA25638 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA25632 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00363; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:32:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Jon Inouye cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCCard on 2.1.5 - How? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Jon Inouye wrote: > > > > We have the pccard-test series on there now (and associated kernel > > options). I don't see anything in LINT. > > > > You need to use LEINLEIN as an example LINT. I've included the > version of that file shipped with the PCCARD 2.2-SNAP releases. We did. It built fine for 2.1-R; now it croaks on 2.1.5. We need to reapply the patches it looks like. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 22:36:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA26366 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA26318 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00375; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:35:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Dean McGowan cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Please help In-Reply-To: <199607161144.VAA18715@oznet02.ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Dean McGowan wrote: > what I would like to know is if you have a method/script/program > for terminal type user registration and account setup that runs on a bsdi > machine.. The best thing I can think of is 'adduser' which does just that. It has to be run by root though. Is that what you were thinking of? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 22:37:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA26527 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA26522 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00379; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:37:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Matt Rosenberg cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP server In-Reply-To: <31ED5A68.5E18@www.wulaw.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Matt Rosenberg wrote: > The man page for pppd and the FreeBSD handbook pages say > nothing about the IPFORWARDING option being on in the > kernel. Does it need to be? I am planning to compile > a new kernel this week when I upgrade to 2.1.5 but I'd > like it to be as small as possible. Huh? IP Forwarding is now handled by a sysctl or more popularly as a /etc/sysconfig item. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 22:51:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA27753 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line10.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA27746 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00403; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:51:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Paul Walsh cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: re-configure IDE cdrom In-Reply-To: <31EB53BF.544F@nation-net.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Paul Walsh wrote: > Is it possible to re-configure these ? What do you mean by that? They are auto-detected during the controller probe. If it isn't detecting, make sure the ATAPI options are compiled in. If it is, then try moving the CD between the primary and secondary IDE channels. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 22:54:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA27868 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line10.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA27863 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00407; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Enaaa Aiadae cc: "'questions@freeBSD.org'" Subject: Re: Shared library ld.so.2.2 ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Enaaa Aiadae wrote: > I'm install FreeBSD 2.2-960612-SNAP and atempt install 'lynx', no lynx > can't run with error: 'shared library ld.so.2.2 not found'. > Where I'm can get this library ? Copy /usr/lib/libc.so.3.0 to libc.so.2.2. Or use the lynx port and rebuild it. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 22:54:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA27920 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line10.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA27913 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00411; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:54:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Nuclear Winter cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slow transfers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Nuclear Winter wrote: > I searched the mailing list archives and couldn't seem to find an answer > to this problem. I'm having rather slow transfer rates across my 28.8 > PPP connection. I'm using iijppp to establish my connections and have no > problems with my modem. I'm assuming I've overlooked something in my > configuration somewhere. Any helpful input would be appreciated. Thanks. What do you mean "slow"? My connection seems to be halfway decent. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 22:58:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA28123 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line10.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28116 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00386; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:43:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Michael Jabbour <75443.2506@compuserve.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question-jordan-basic installation of bsd In-Reply-To: <31EC6EB4.1A17@compuserve.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Michael Jabbour wrote: > how would i download a basic unix type enviornment (pref. win95 > compatible) so i can practice unix commands and get to know xwindows? Some of shells might be built for win95. Adapting Win95 to be more Unixy might be more work than it's worth to find someone's unix box to play with. X is not unlike Win95 with windows and such. With the proper window manager (fvwm) you can get your minimize/maximize and control menu back. The other thing is: put your pointer in the window you want to type in :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 23:06:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA28743 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line10.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA28734 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00434; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:06:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ken Marsh cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Video blinking at login prompt. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Ken Marsh wrote: > I just noticed a recent development that bothers me... > > When I boot and get a login prompt, about two seconds after the prompt > appears, the screen goes blank for a split second, three times. If I am > typing my login name or password during the event, keystrokes are lost. > > The only change I made that would coincide with this change is that I > installed the Xwindows distribution, which isn't properly configured to > run as of yet. Does installing Xwindows make changes to /etc/rc or > something to launch at boot time? I made no such changes manually.... Shouldn't have, but it sounds like the X server is trying to start up and is failing. That's what it does when I have the X server misconfigured. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 23:08:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA28865 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line10.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA28842 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00438; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:07:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Roey Almog cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Video Display Cards In-Reply-To: <31E7DB95.54EE@iol.co.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Roey Almog wrote: > 1. I didn't found nothing about support for video display cards such as > ATI Graphics Expression (thats the one I have). from what I have read > it seems that only VGA resolution can be used (i.e. 640*480) and that > no hardware ecceleration functions of the card will be used. > Does my impression is right ? The Graphics Expression is a Mach64-based card. An accelerated Mach64 server is available for XFree86. If you have a newer card (with the 'CT' chipset) then you'll have to use the beta server which you can get from ftp.xfree86.org. I'm using it on a Graphics Pro Turbo with no problems. > 2. Another importent aspect to software devlopers is a daul monitor > support currently I use MDA monitor to run a debugger and to send > debug massages to, and the S_VGA monitor is free for the tested > application. Is these will be possible on the FreeBSD o/s ? I don't know if FreeBSD itself supports multiheaded displays. XFree might. I can't say I've tried it. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 17 23:08:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA28908 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cserv.mgu.bg (cserv.mgu.bg [193.68.129.221]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA28810 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from vesskov@localhost) by cserv.mgu.bg (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA19837 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:05:28 +0300 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:05:28 +0300 From: Vesselin Kovatchev Message-Id: <199607180605.JAA19837@cserv.mgu.bg> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: language support? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I'm a Bulgarian. I'm trying your FreeBSD 2.0.5. It's wonderful system. I want to know how can I get the latest vesrions, their prices etc. And if I'd like to install BSD for communication server and for terminal server, how to buy the original version, sources and especially does the commercial version support our cyrillic langiage - fonts, key mapping, etc. for text sessions and X. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 00:07:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA01512 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.kconline.com (ns.kconline.com [207.51.167.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA01505 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jriffle@localhost) by ns.kconline.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA15547 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 02:04:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 02:04:30 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Riffle To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: wanting to 'make world' to upgrade Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was considering upgrading from 2.1.0-Release to 2.1.5-Release via the ctm deltas for 2.1.0-Stable, but have a few questions about this. 1. Would doing a make world clobber my /etc directory? 2. I would like to do this in a running system, I really do not want to take the system down to single user mode to do this, does this pose a problem? 3. If I were to upgrade in this fashion, what would "uname" report the kernal as being after I recompile it? "2.1.0-Stable" or "2.1.5-Release" 4. Any other concerns anyone can thing about doing it this way? Would it just be better to boot off the floppie and do an "upgrade" install? Thanks, Jim From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 00:37:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA02535 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA02529 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ugneT-000Qc0C; Thu, 18 Jul 96 09:37 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA24681; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:52:24 +0200 Message-Id: <199607180652.IAA24681@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD CD Installation To: jimamy@io.org (James B Amy) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:52:24 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <01BB743F.54AB6160@486-hot-rod.net4.io.org> from "James B Amy" at Jul 17, 96 05:19:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James B Amy writes: > > How can I know for sure whether my BIOS understands 64 heads? It's > probably not likely. I guess I could contact AWARD through their Web page. Try setting it that way in the BIOS setup menu. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 00:44:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA02748 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA02743 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guillotin.prism.uvsq.fr (guillotin.prism.uvsq.fr [193.51.25.1]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id JAA28656 ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:44:05 +0200 (METDST) Received: from angrand.prism.uvsq.fr (angrand.prism.uvsq.fr [193.51.25.85]) by guillotin.prism.uvsq.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id JAA16316 ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:44:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from (son@localhost) by angrand.prism.uvsq.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) id KAA00186 ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:46:48 +0200 (MET DST) To: ALHACK@am.pnu.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD disk drivers References: <1ed33f50@am.pnu.com> From: Nicolas Souchu Date: 18 Jul 1996 10:46:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: ALHACK@am.pnu.com's message of Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:34:00 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.25/XEmacs 19.14 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ALHACK@am.pnu.com writes: > > The controller is a Promise EIDE2300 PLUS VESA Local Bus with on board BIOS > that takes over the hard disk fuctions from the mother board BIOS. The disk > drive is a Western Digital Caviar AC21000. This combination works well with > DOS and Windows 3.1 . The Promise BIOS is buggy. Either disable it with jumpers (you'll have some problems with your 1Gb disk if your motherboard's BIOS do not support it) or use fbsdboot.exe from DOS. This exec is in /sys/i386/boot/dosboot. nicolas -- Nicolas.Souchu@prism.uvsq.fr Laboratoire PRiSM - Versailles, FRANCE From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 01:26:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA04353 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 01:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.nation-net.com (www.nation-net.com [194.159.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA04345 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 01:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mag.nation-net.com (194.159.125.14) by www.nation-net.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:28:29 +0000 Message-ID: <31EDF4F7.A1F@nation-net.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:25:27 +0100 From: Paul Walsh X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: secure httpd for use in UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone recommend a secure httpd package that RSA will certify, for use in the UK? On the freeBSD platform of course. (Apache-ssl is out - which is a shame since we already have Apache working like a dream) Regards, Paul Walsh -- paul@nation-net.com Walsh Simmons 0161-839 9337 Manchester, UK From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 03:16:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA09766 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 03:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA09760 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 03:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcmgate.pcm.co.za [196.3.254.241] by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0ugq6H-000ardC; Thu, 18 Jul 96 12:14 EET Received: from irvinep5 (irvinep5.pcm.co.za [196.3.226.90]) by pcmgate.pcm.co.za (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA18939 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:16:13 +0200 Message-Id: <199607181016.MAA18939@pcmgate.pcm.co.za> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Irvine Short" Organization: Professional Computer Manufacturers To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:03:50 +2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Sources needed to recompile kernel Reply-to: ishort@pcm.co.za X-Confirm-Reading-To: ishort@pcm.co.za X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.40) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi All Which files from the 2.1.5-RELEASE/src subdirectory do I need to download to have the necessary sources to recompile my own kernel? I'm downloading everything onto my workstation so as to do a local ftp install on another workstation. Regards, Irvine Short http://www.pcm.co.za/homepage/ishort/irv_home.html Technical Support Professional Computer Manufacturers Cape Town, South Africa Tel: ++27-21-235084 Fax ++27-21-235089 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 03:42:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA10589 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 03:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA10460 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 03:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA00420; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:30:53 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607181230.MAA00420@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: Sources needed to recompile kernel To: ishort@pcm.co.za Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:30:52 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607181016.MAA18939@pcmgate.pcm.co.za> from Irvine Short at "Jul 18, 96 12:03:50 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi All > > Which files from the 2.1.5-RELEASE/src subdirectory do I need to > download to have the necessary sources to recompile my own kernel? > > I'm downloading everything onto my workstation so as to do a local > ftp install on another workstation. > > Regards, > > Irvine Short > > http://www.pcm.co.za/homepage/ishort/irv_home.html > > Technical Support > Professional Computer Manufacturers > Cape Town, South Africa > Tel: ++27-21-235084 Fax ++27-21-235089 > ssys.* sbase.* Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 03:43:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA10632 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 03:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lespoir.apana.org.au (lespoir.apana.org.au [202.12.87.57]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA10621 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 03:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wongm@localhost) by lespoir.apana.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA04746; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:35:06 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:35:06 +0000 () From: "M.C Wong" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Routing protocol simulator ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I wonder if there is any simulation tool for IP based routing protocol ? Ideally, it will allow user to specify a number of interconnected routers and route table in the forms of static route entries that is read during initialization. It will also be able to simulate the capability of learning new routes, propogating routing table info to peer routers. Also, provides an interface to define and inject a packet from a network/router to a destination and when the packet reaches the defined routers, it highlight which routing entry is taking effect in forwarding the packet etc ... Basically, what I'm after is a tool that can help simulating a complex routing environemnt ... Am I asking too much ? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 04:22:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA12751 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 04:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA12731 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 04:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcmgate.pcm.co.za [196.3.254.241] by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0ugr7h-000asbC; Thu, 18 Jul 96 13:20 EET Received: from irvinep5 (irvinep5.pcm.co.za [196.3.226.90]) by pcmgate.pcm.co.za (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA19065; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:21:41 +0200 Message-Id: <199607181121.NAA19065@pcmgate.pcm.co.za> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Irvine Short" Organization: Professional Computer Manufacturers To: Werner Griessl Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:09:16 +2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Sources needed to recompile kernel Reply-to: ishort@pcm.co.za CC: questions@FreeBSD.org X-Confirm-Reading-To: ishort@pcm.co.za X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.40) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Which files from the 2.1.5-RELEASE/src subdirectory do I need to > > download to have the necessary sources to recompile my own kernel? > ssys.* > sbase.* > > Werner Thanks! Regards, Irvine Short http://www.pcm.co.za/homepage/ishort/irv_home.html Technical Support Professional Computer Manufacturers Cape Town, South Africa Tel: ++27-21-235084 Fax ++27-21-235089 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 04:29:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA13081 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 04:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strech.cyber-naut.com (strech.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA13074 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 04:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by strech.cyber-naut.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id FAA00223 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 05:29:12 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 05:29:12 -0600 (MDT) From: Blair Schmittel Message-Id: <199607181129.FAA00223@strech.cyber-naut.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Second HDD problems. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello; I am trying to install a second SCSI HDD on one of my servers. I am using /stand/sysinstall for the disk editor. I select the whole drive to be used, go to the partitioner, partition the whole drive as one partition. My problem is the installer won't write the data because it wants a root partition on the drive. Any suggestions? Blair From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 05:26:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA15434 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 05:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA15426 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 05:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id OAA10085; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:26:14 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (OAA00199); Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:17:05 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199607181417.OAA00199@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Intel Pentium vs AMD/Cyrix/NexGen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:17:05 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I would like to know more pros/cons about these type of processors. So many people said something about Cyrix, but nothing about the other clones. So? Are there any known differences? What about a multiprocessor machine with these clone processors? -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 05:26:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA15455 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 05:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA15432; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 05:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id OAA10089; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:26:15 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (OAA00226); Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:20:11 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199607181420.OAA00226@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: I18N To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:20:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I'm using FreeBSD 2.1.0R. I'd like to make a whole Hungarian locale. I've made some type of keyboard descriptor file, generate 3 console font files. Now, I need to make the two more difficult part: collating sequences, and LC_TIME file. So I need some information, not found in the manual. LC_COLLATE: a) what is it good for, the charmap and substitute statements? b) what does these symbols mean: h, c, \x68, ? (These are in the manuals ``charmap'' section.) c) the main is the order list: if I understand well, I have to list all of the characters of this code table. i) Is it true? What will be, if I doesn't write all of the characters? ii) the list order is the sorting order of the characters? iii) what does the ( .. ) form and the { .. } form mean? (from the manual, they are the same) d) I think, I've made a (maybe incorrect) collate file, generate the LC_COLLATE in /usr/share/locale/hu_HU.CP852 ; exported the LC_COLLATE variable ; and made a little ``sort'' program, which gets two string, and compare with strcoll. But it sort by the ascii order. ??? What do I need to make, not made before? (I've written an email to Alex Tatmanjants - as the originator of the colldef program, but didn't get anything - yet.) LC_TIME: a) is there any manual page about the format of this file? (I've got it from James Raynard, who get it from -current, but (as he says) doesn't know too much about internationalisation.) b) how long have to be one record? c) can I use it in 2.1R? I've made the file, exported the LC_TIME variable, but the date command has the same output, as before. Do I have to make something else? And another question: Raynard said something about a command, I think: timeset, but didn't find any information about it. Do you know something about it? Thanks, Gabor PS: and what about 2.1.5? Are there any new functions, files? -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 06:42:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA18259 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 06:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allmalt.cs.uwm.edu (allmalt.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.139.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA18254 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 06:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from scottk@localhost) by allmalt.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA23477 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:42:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Knaffla Message-Id: <199607181342.IAA23477@allmalt.cs.uwm.edu> Subject: 2.1.5 install failed with EISA Buslogic BT747S To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:42:50 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am try to install FreeBSD 2.1.5 (I also failed at 2.1.0 and the 6/12 snap of 2.2). I have a P24T (83Mhz) upgraded AMI Enterprise IV (Eisa machine). I stripped all the cards out except my Buslogic BT747S (Fast SCSI II, Eisa card, firmware 3.37, the latest) and ATI Mach32 (Also Eisa). I have a 2.88Mb 3.5 floppy now in 1.44 compatibility mode, I tried connecting it to both the motherboard and the SCSI card, and now it's currently connected to the motherboard. I have a 2Gb Barracuda (ST12550N I think the firmware is level 10) internal (termination point) and a Nec 3Xi and HP 35480 (4mm Dat) (termination point) external. I have 2 1Gb partitions, one for FreeBSD and one for Win95, the entire system is working fine for Win95 and I have previously had Dos, Win NT and NetBSD partitions on it. NetBSD was on there for about 2 years I remember having trouble installing NetBSD also, I think I had to make a custom kernel and take one of the floppies out of the kernel, to get that to work, something about the floppy driver grabbing interrupts that the SCSI one should be getting, but I don't remember about that very much. OK Enough about the history and the machine. When I put the floppy for 2.1.5 (I have used the same floppy to install 2 other machines so I think it should be fine), the system comes up, probe finds my SCSI card says it's reading the board settings and prints out that it's at 0x330-x333 dma 5 irq 11 but when I switch the the alternate console, there is no bt0 driver loaded up, and when in the main console window if I try to start to install it tells me there is no drive. I tried doing the custom boot and take everything else out and the same thing goes on. I think booting the normal default kernel probe see the bt and then thinks it's an adaptec, it talks to the hard drive with the aha dirver and get the model number and firmware from the seagate, but then fails when trying to do command with the adaptec driver. When I have the external cd and tape turned on I get this from the debugger window. Debugger ("bt742a") called bt0: abort operation has timed out bt0: not taking commands! Debugger ("bt742a") called bt0: Try to abort bt0: not taking commands! Debugger ("bt742a") called bt0: Abort operation has timed out bt0: not taking commands! Debugger ("bt742a") called bt0: Try to abort bt0: not taking commands! Debugger ("bt742a") called bt0: Abort operation has timed out I can't seem to get any further. I have read through the documentation and The card SCSI is at 0x330, the only requirement listed. Probe seems to like my system enough, it sees everything I have in my system. Any ideas?? Thanks, - Scott Scott Knaffla scottk@cs.uwm.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 06:46:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA18458 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 06:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eros.britain.eu.net (eros.Britain.EU.net [192.91.199.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA18453 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 06:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nadt.org.uk by eros.britain.eu.net with UUCP id ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:45:09 +0100 Received: from infodev (infodev.nadt.org.uk [194.155.224.205]) by charlie.nadt.org.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA02381 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:42:00 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:42:00 +0100 Posted-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:42:00 +0100 Message-Id: <199607181342.OAA02381@charlie.nadt.org.uk> X-Website: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~nadt X-Sender: robmel@mailhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Robin Melville Subject: Re: I'm re-rolling the 2.1.5 release. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >One branch was named -stable, with the intention that >only well-tested bug fixes and small incremental enhancements would be >made to it (for ISPs and other commercial enterprises for whom sudden >shifts or experimental features are quite undesirable). >... in our >rush to get this out, I'm afraid to say that we skipped some >regression testing - this is evidently our just reward for cutting >corners! Hmmm, it's tempting to make remarks about shutting -stable doors after horses have bolted... but I shan't. :) Robin. -------------------------------------------------------- Robin Melville, Addiction & Forensic Information Service Nottingham Healthcare NHS Trust Vox: +44 (0)115 952 9478 Fax: +44 (0)115 952 9421 Email: robmel@nadt.org.uk WWW: http://www.innotts.co.uk/nadt/ -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 07:42:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA21663 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 07:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cornus.FSL.ORST.EDU (root@FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.105]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA21642 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 07:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from picea.FSL.ORST.EDU (hernanw@picea.FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.3]) by cornus.FSL.ORST.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA01571 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 07:42:10 -0700 Received: (from hernanw@localhost) by picea.FSL.ORST.EDU (8.7/8.6.9) id HAA08338; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 07:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 07:42:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Hernandez To: questions Subject: Using HP4020i cdr as reader Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My system comes up with the HP4020i as a worm device which is fine, but how do I read cd's from it? I have tried to use MAKEDEV to make /dev/worm0, but all I get is /dev/rworm0 which mount tells me is a character device instead of a block device. I am using 2.2 Current as of Mar 13, 1996 which is after the 4020i was declared a worm device. Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 08:21:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA26529 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA26520 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA17963; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607181522.LAA17963@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: SOYO SY-30F2 blues To: Kees.Koster@nym.sc.philips.com Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: <3E5A6A874E1@NLNMG01.nym.sc.philips.com> from Kees Jan Koster at "Jul 18, 96 09:11:42 am" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kees Jan Koster wrote... > Hoi Hardware, > [SNIP] > A week ago I added a 'Diamond Stealth 64 video 2001' to my system. > Pretty cool video card, but not for me. X crashes my system (as in > immediate reboot). Needless to say Descent^H^H^H^H^H^H^HMS-DOS runs > fine :( I have no MS Windows to try it with. > [SNIP] I had a memory problem with 2 PCI cards - in my case a Cirrus Logic 5434 and an Adaptec 2940. As with your case, the cards were grabbing the same memory area. I 'cured' it by swapping their positions on the motherboard. It seems that they were deciding on their memory area by some kind of base x slot number calculation. When they were in the positions I used first, they overlaid each other, after I reversed them, the problem disappeared. Although my experience is with different cards, and I'm no hardware maven - try swapping slots - it couldn't hurt! John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 08:46:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA27668 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA27663 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <15939(7)>; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:45:26 PDT Received: from gnu.mc.xerox.com (gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-TB) id AA23309; Thu, 18 Jul 96 11:45:29 EDT Received: by gnu.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05400; Thu, 18 Jul 96 11:45:28 EDT Message-Id: <9607181545.AA05400@gnu.mc.xerox.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: Terry Lambert Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, novakow@ee.ualberta.ca, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for NTFS? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:39:17 PDT." <199607160039.RAA09760@phaeton.artisoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:45:26 PDT From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I was wondering if there is support for Windows NT filesystem? If not, > > > is there any work being done on it? Thank you.. > > > > Nope, probably on both counts. > > Some experimental work on NTFS has taken place. The Linux code was > ported, but it's only read-only (mostly because the Linux FS > layering does not lend itself to clean transaction logging). > > Nothing has been released, and nothing is currently planned to be > released. > Readonly is very, very useful for foreign file systems... 1) bugs don't effect the other system 2) readcapability is far better than no capability. I'm having the same problem with linux reading freebsd partitions... I can always use do a a common exchange format (or nfs). -- marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Member of the League for Programming Freedom From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 08:59:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA28424 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net (server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net [203.108.7.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28419 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oznet16.ozemail.com.au (oznet16.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.109]) by server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA18616; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:55:09 +1000 (EST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by oznet16.ozemail.com.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA09803; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:55:08 +1000 (EST) Received: from rlyon.mynet.au (slmel8p09.ozemail.com.au [203.22.156.169]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA09598; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:55:04 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:44:36 +1000 (EST) From: Richard Lyon X-Sender: rlyon@rlyon.mynet.au To: "M.C Wong" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Routing protocol simulator ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, M.C Wong wrote: > Hi, > I wonder if there is any simulation tool for IP based routing protocol > ? Ideally, it will allow user to specify a number of interconnected > routers and route table in the forms of static route entries that is > read during initialization. It will also be able to simulate the > capability of learning new routes, propogating routing table info to peer > routers. Also, provides an interface to define and inject a packet from > a network/router to a destination and when the packet reaches the > defined routers, it highlight which routing entry is taking effect in > forwarding the packet etc ... > > Basically, what I'm after is a tool that can help simulating a > complex routing environemnt ... > > Am I asking too much ? > And you will want to estimate delays under heavy loading, generate a number statistics, reports, graphs, etc, etc , etc. The usual approach is to build up a model and use a disrete event simulator. OPNET is about the best one around for simulating networks. It costs at least $A30,000 and requires a DEC ALPHA or SPARC. Most Australian universities use OPNET for researching the type of problem you have mentioned. There may be an NT version real soon. OPNET contains a good selection of components. For exact definition of the routers you would need to do a fair bit of coding in PROTO-C. If you were real keen, it would be possible to use one of the discrete event simulation C libraries, but it would be a big mega effort compared to using something like OPNET. I have been running OPNET at swinburne university. It is possible to telnet in via the internet, and use my FSB x server to remotely run OPNET. This is slow, but it works and I can do everyting from my desk here at home. It may pay to ask the engineering dept or comp sci dept of your local university if they use OPNET and how you can get access. Hey, if you find a good discrete event simulator for FreeBSD let me know. I have been doing a lot of simulation work for mobile data networks. I have tried a number of different tools but always come back to OPNET. Regards ... From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 09:02:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA28718 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sirius.tadpole.co.uk (sirius.tadpole.co.uk [192.52.161.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA28706 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sirius.tadpole.co.uk (8.7/PIPEX simple 1.19) id RAA02840; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:02:22 +0100 (BST) From: Tim Steele Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:02:22 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199607181602.RAA02840@sirius.tadpole.co.uk> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Great stuff so far Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I still don't know how you managed to cram so much onto the install floppy! When I try and do an ftp install, everything goes right up to the message "Logging in as ftp.." when my machine appears to hang. I've tried several different sites. I know the network connection is OK as I can see everything if I boot Windows95, and I run the network at my company 8-). By the time it gets to this point it's looked up the name, presumably, so something must be going right! Hardware: Tadpole P1000 (100MHz Pentium) with EISA bus 3Com EtherLink III card Any assistance gratefully received! Thanks Tim From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 09:17:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA29313 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.wulaw.wustl.edu (server.wulaw.wustl.edu [128.252.251.249]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29307 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from matt@localhost) by server.wulaw.wustl.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA01848 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:16:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:16:39 -0500 From: Matt Rosenberg Message-Id: <199607181616.LAA01848@server.wulaw.wustl.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.1.5 and AHA-2742W Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to upgrade a 2.1.0 system to 2.1.5 but when I boot from the install boot floppy I get a kernel panic everytime. The install kernel finds the Adaptec AHA-2742W SCSI card correctly with the correct IRQ and address and all of the correct SCSI devices. It then continues to probe for the other devices. Immediately after finishing the probing the kernel panics: panic: ahc0: brkadrint, Illegal Host Access at seqaddr=0x0 Two things I did notice. In the kernel I'm using in 2.1.0 the adapter is device ahc1 and not ahc0 (I don't know why that would make a difference). The other thing is that ahc1 is listed in the device list after booting with the -c option on the old kernel. There is no ahc device at all in the device list when booting with the -c option on the install disk. If all else fails, is there a way to download the source for 2.1.5 compile and install a 2.1.5 kernel and then go back and install the new lib files? --Matt Rosenberg matt@www.wulaw.wustl.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 09:20:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA29461 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.w3page.com (root@p14.pm-4.pm.dimensional.com [206.100.130.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29455 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion (blaine@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.w3page.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA00213; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:19:32 -0600 Message-ID: <31EE6413.39584163@w3page.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:19:31 -0600 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Narvi CC: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions-digest V1 #1106 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Narvi wrote: > > > From: Blaine Minazzi > > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:33:17 -0600 > > Subject: networking Linux <--> FreeBSD > > > > Congratulations to the FreeBSD crowd. You managed to reduce me to > > a quivering mass of nerves. After looking through the massive > > ( lack ) of documentation :-( , I have to do the one thing > > all grown men hate to do the most. Ask for help... > > Something I hear for the first time... > > > Here is something that should be rather simple. > > Connect a Linux and FreeBSD box using TCP/IP. > > I have done this with Linux <--> Linux, but, > > for the life of me, I cannot talk to the BSD machine. > > Can you ping it? Can you ping the linux machine from FreeBSD? Can you > connect from the FreeBSD machine? Can FreeBSD connect to other mchines? > I can now... Well, it WAS rather simple. Too simple. I somehow recompiled the Linux kernel with the wrong values for the Sound Driver. Conflicted with my ethernet card. ( Industrial Strength Stupid... ) Recompile, everything as easy as I know it to be. Sincerely, Blaine Minazzi From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 09:30:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA00194 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patriot.pluggnet.se ([194.18.171.79]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00162 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from goran@localhost) by patriot.pluggnet.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA00242; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:34:06 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:34:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Goran Larsson To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: About "a new file system" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello FreeBSD friends! I am at the moment running some FreeBSD servers on my WebSite "pluggnet.se" They are all "standard" installed with "novice" help in setup, everything works 100% well!! until the device wd0 whent out of space! on /var mounted partition. My task and problems: I installed an "primary slave" drive and got it to run as wd1, FreeBSD "knows" about the drive OK! I boot up my computer whith "boot" disk an run "Expert" mode, in the "fdisk" section i create my partitions with "A" (auto) then i write info to disk with "W". I put an "ordinary" record NOT boot on the new disk. I end this section with "Q". I want the disk to operate as one partition and creates only one whit disklabel utility, but i am not able to write info to disk. I trye to make an file system whit "./MAKEDEV wd1s1a" and "newfs /dev/wd1s1a" Question? What is wrong, cant i mount my new disk as /var in my file system? Please! can you tell me how to do this? i can find enything in the GNU Bible or on your FAQ- To solv this problem myself! Heeeelp!! / goran@pluggnet.se From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 09:30:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA00315 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.w3page.com (root@p14.pm-4.pm.dimensional.com [206.100.130.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00307 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion (blaine@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.w3page.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA00234; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:30:39 -0600 Message-ID: <31EE66AE.1DBE53B3@w3page.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:30:38 -0600 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: networking Linux <--> FreeBSD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Blaine Minazzi wrote: > > > Congratulations to the FreeBSD crowd. You managed to reduce me to > > a quivering mass of nerves. After looking through the massive > > ( lack ) of documentation :-( , I have to do the one thing > > all grown men hate to do the most. Ask for help... > > Well, you know, you can do something about that...:-) > > > Here is something that should be rather simple. > > Connect a Linux and FreeBSD box using TCP/IP. > > I have done this with Linux <--> Linux, but, > > for the life of me, I cannot talk to the BSD machine. > > First timer? > Yes and No... Have done LOTS of networking. ( and yes, it's a private net, just to test it out... ) First time Install of FreeBSD. I like it so far. It was TOO simple... Major Brain Fart on my part. I got to get away from these damn machines. Spending so much time, I am starting to overlook the easy stuff. Sincerely, Blaine Minazzi From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 09:31:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA00338 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu (dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu [129.101.100.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00333 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snake.cs.uidaho.edu (snake.cs.uidaho.edu [129.101.100.54]) by dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu (8.7.5/1.1) with ESMTP id JAA01593 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (evans911@localhost) by snake.cs.uidaho.edu (8.7.5/1.0) id BAA24509; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 01:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 01:02:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Evans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Are threads available? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a (working) threads package for FreeBSD? Jason Evans Jason Evans: [Computer Science Student] [University of Idaho] e-mail: [evans911@cs.uidaho.edu] [jasone@uidaho.edu] phone: [(208) 882-6745] quote: ["Invention is 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration." - Thomas Edison] From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 10:27:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA04094 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (root@ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04089 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-12.ime.net [206.231.148.141]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA17276; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31EE73F1.70AF@ime.net> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:27:13 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken Marsh CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel rebuild errors References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ken Marsh wrote: > > I just attempted to rebuild my kernel using the instructions posted at: > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook22.html#41 et. al. > > after doing the custom configuration file, MYKERNEL, the instructions say > to: > > # /usr/sbin/config MYKERNEL > # cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL > # make depend > # make > # make install > > On the "# make" part of the process, the make was stopped after 4 or 5 > minutes with countless errors. My theory is one of three, in order of > likelyhood: > > 1) the instructions are for another version, not 2.0.5 (Walnut Creek CD). > 2) I configured the MYKERNEL file incorrectly > 3) I made a typo in the MYKERNEL file > > I'm sure that the exact error messages would be helpful in > troubleshooting, but I have no idea where they might be logged, or how I > might redirect them to a file. Any suggestions are welcomed. > > Ken Marsh 2.0.5 is a bit out of date in reference to the handbook. It is likly that you added/removed something thats not in 2.0.5. This is what use to log my make: make |& tee make.err This will direct output to screen as well as to a 'make.err' file in the current directory. Works for me. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 10:34:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA04627 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from weaver-gw.netapp.com (weaver-gw.netapp.com [198.95.224.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04622 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netapp.com ([192.9.200.1]) by weaver.netapp.com with SMTP id <15930-27921>; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:35:03 +0100 Received: from bayonne.netapp.com by netapp.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15863; Thu, 18 Jul 96 10:34:50 PDT Received: by bayonne.netapp.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15447; Thu, 18 Jul 96 10:34:49 PDT Date: Thu, 18 Jul 96 10:34:49 PDT From: byron@netapp.com (Byron Rakitzis) Message-Id: <9607181734.AA15447@bayonne.netapp.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: trouble installing freebsd 2.1 on toshiba laptop Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I have a Toshiba 415CS laptop, and I am trying to bring up freebsd. The laptop has a built-in 4x CDROM, which I assume is ATAPI. I also have a 3COM 3c589 PCMCIA card and am prepared to do a network installation. When I boot either boot.flp or atapi.flp, freebsd finds no cdrom, and no network card! The really frustrating part is that it prints something in the kernel startup about ze0 and zp0, but it all flashes by too quickly for me to make sense of it -- I am shoved into the fullscreen installer, and I have lost the kernel startup lines! I started the kernel with -c, disabled everything except the IDE bus, serial controllers, and the zp0 driver. However, the boot still did not find the 3c589. For laughs, I tried again disabling zp0 and enabling ze0, since it seems to find something (although I don't know what!) with ze0. Still nothing. Any hints are appreciated, esp. if there is a boot flag I can pass so that the install utility does not start straight off so that I can at least see what is eating the zp driver. Many thanks, Byron Rakitzis. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 10:49:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA05183 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from premise.CS.Berkeley.EDU (root@premise.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.33.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA05178 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from premise.CS.Berkeley.EDU (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by premise.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA02775 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:48:56 -0700 Message-Id: <199607181748.KAA02775@premise.CS.Berkeley.EDU> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing protocol simulator ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:44:36 +1000." From: bmah@cs.berkeley.edu (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-to: bmah@cs.berkeley.edu X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:48:54 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard Lyon writes: > Hey, if you find a good discrete event simulator for FreeBSD let me know. > I have been doing a lot of simulation work for mobile data networks. I > have tried a number of different tools but always come back to OPNET. Apologies if this is getting off-topic... For some work I'm doing to investigate the performance of different IP-over-ATM schemes, I've developed what I think is a pretty reasonable IP network simulator: The Internet Simulated ATM Networking Environment (a.k.a. INSANE). It's a discrete event simulator done in C++ and Tcl, it simulates the actions of various applications (telnet/ftp/http/audio/video) over TCP/UDP/IP and various primitive data-link layers (one of which is an approximation of an ATM stack). Works great under FreeBSD, as well as a number of other UNIX and UNIX-like OSs I've tried. Eventually I would like to release this on a freely available basis. For right now, I'm deep in thesis-writing mode, and so the release sits on the back burner. But if anyone is interested in a snapshot of the code with the usual disclaimers and caveats, send me email. The downside (for the purposes of the original question) is that it doesn't deal with routing protocols at all (all routing is static). But it might not be too hard to add it... Cheers, Bruce. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 11:02:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA05870 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from firewall.hsi.com (firewall-user@OZONE.HSI.COM [192.43.235.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05856 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by firewall.hsi.com; id OAA26644; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:02:52 -0400 Received: from mercury.hsi.com(143.122.1.91) by ozone.hsi.com via smap (V3.1) id xma026627; Thu, 18 Jul 96 14:02:29 -0400 Received: from jupiter.hsi.com by mercury.hsi.com with SMTP id AA08950 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:02:29 -0400 Received: from hopi (hopi.hsi.com) by jupiter.hsi.com with SMTP id AA25616 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:02:28 -0400 Message-Id: <31EE7BE4.2E0B@hsi.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:01:08 -0400 From: Tony Kanakis Organization: 3MHIS X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: kanakis@hsi.com Subject: Can't get ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/floppies/boot.flp to work X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I copied ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/floppies/boot.flp and ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/tools/dos-tools/rawrite.exe and ran it on a formatted floppy on two different pcs and can't get to the boot prompt. It starts to read the disk then hang with nothing on the screen. Any ideas? kanakis@hsi.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 11:11:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA06490 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.nation-net.com (www.nation-net.com [194.159.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06482 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mag.nation-net.com (194.159.125.14) by www.nation-net.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:13:29 +0000 Message-ID: <31EE7E12.1256@nation-net.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:10:26 +0100 From: Paul Walsh X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: gcc -DTERMIO ... in compiling SSL? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Compiler option for gcc when compiling read_pw.c .Is this right? The TERMIO define looks for termio.h on my system, which doesn't exist. Shouldn't this be -DTERMIOS help. -- paul@nation-net.com Walsh Simmons 0161-839 9337 Manchester, UK From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 11:22:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA07148 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA07126; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EMX.TELKOM400.INCA.ZA [198.54.247.1] by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0ugxgX-000aqhC; Thu, 18 Jul 96 20:20 EET X400-Received: by /PRMD=TELKOM/ADMD=TELKOM400/C=ZA/; Relayed; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:29:56 +0200 X400-Received: by /ADMD=TELKOM400/C=ZA/; converted (ia5 text (2)); Relayed; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:22:55 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:22:55 +0200 X400-Originator: DARBY1@X400.telkom400.inca.za X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=TELKOM/ADMD=TELKOM400/C=ZA/;0006000001857852000002] X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 (22) Content-Identifier: 0119114070626956 From: RYAN DARBY Message-ID: <0119114070626956*@MHS> To: ", DDA.RFC-822:questions(a)freebsd.org, P:TELKOM, A:TELKOM400ZA" , ", DDA.RFC-822:majordomo(a)freebsd.org, P:TELKOM, A:TELKOM400ZA" Subject: How do I remove boot manager as well? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I installed FreeBSD 2.0.5 but it did not work. I want to try again, but a dual boot option has been installed and before MS-DOS on my 386DX-40 starts I get F1 : dos F5 : disk 2 F5 is default. Whatever I press, my first IDE disk starts up with MSDOS. I have delted all of the BSD I could find on the system. How do I get rid of this? It seems built in! Thanks, Also, how do I get it to boot off a second (D) IDE drive,so I can have both but on seperate drives? Yours Faithfully Ryan Darby 1191140@beltel.telkom400.inca.za From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 11:29:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA07496 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA07480 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ai03663; 18 Jul 96 18:30 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa00881; 18 Jul 96 18:18 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA04769; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:28:58 GMT From: James Raynard Message-Id: <199607172328.XAA04769@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Mailing list To: Eka Kelana Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:28:57 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3B41590136@jambi.wasantara.net.id> from "Eka Kelana" at Jul 17, 96 11:56:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I would like to know whether any mailing list exists in FreeBSD.org domain. > If somebody here knows about a miling list which discuss network programming, > please tell me.... :-) Not as such. This list (questions) is probably as good as any for general network programming questions. If your questions penetrate fairly deeply into details of the FreeBSD implementation, the hackers list may be a better bet. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 11:40:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA08013 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcom3.netcom.com (falstaff@netcom3.netcom.com [192.100.81.103]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08008 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from falstaff@localhost) by netcom3.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id LAA14856; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:40:37 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:40:37 -0700 From: falstaff@netcom.com (anthony m. vervoort) Message-Id: <199607181840.LAA14856@netcom3.netcom.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: problem with installation Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I tried following the instructions provided on the website for creating and using a boot disk to begin the install, but it doesn't seem to be working. I downloaded the boot.flp and rawrite.exe files from the server, rebooted the machine in dos mode (it was running win95 before), and ran rawrite to create the boot disk to a dos formatted floppy. When I try to boot from the floppy, the machine gets to the point where it reads the floppy to load the OS, and it accesses the drive for about 3 seconds, then all activity stops and the machine sits there. the machine boots fine from other (dos) boot floppies. i have tried the freebsd boot disk on both the 486-66 i want to install on and on my new pentium system, and both systems have the same result. Any suggestions for how to get around this problem? -anthony vervoort falstaff@netcom.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 11:45:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA08316 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aphex.direct.ca (root@aphex.direct.ca [199.60.229.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA08311 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from davinci.renaissoft.com ([199.60.103.1]) by aphex.direct.ca with ESMTP id <268959-7806>; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:37:02 -0700 Received: (from travis@localhost) by davinci.renaissoft.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA17031 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:44:29 -0700 From: travis@renaissoft.com (Travis Campbell) Message-Id: <199607181844.LAA17031@davinci.renaissoft.com> Subject: Adaptec 2940 and Seagate ST51080N Medialist Problem To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:44:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [This not a FreeBSD problem, but unless I can get this solved, I won't be able to run FreeBSD on this new system. :)] I'm currently building a 2.1.5-R server using the following components: Intel P100 CPU Adaptec 2940 Seagate ST51080N Medialist 1gig SCSI HD Trident 9440AGi PCI SVGA card Sony CDU76S SCSI CD-ROM Drive 24 egs of RAM No name PCI motherboard using the Intel i430VX PCIset chipset The problem I'm running into is that the Seagate refuses to work with the Adaptec 2940. When I try to use the Adaptec's SCSI Select utility to low level the harddrive, I get the following error dialog: Unexpected SCSI Command Failed Target SCSI ID: 1 SCSI CDB Sent: 03 00 00 00 0E 00 Host Adapter Status: 00h - No host adapter error Target Status: 02h - Check condition Sense Key: 0Bh +Sense Code: 40h +Sense Code Qualifier: 01h I get the following error if I try to verify the Seagate disk media, using the Adaptec SCSISelect utils: Target SCSI ID: 1 SCSI CDB Sent: 03 00 00 00 0E 00 70 00 03 00 Host Adapter Status: 00h - No host adapter error Target Status: 02h - Check condition Sense Key: 03h - Medium error +Sense Code: 31h +Sense Code Qualifier: 00h The Seagate J8 option Jumper block is jumpered as follows: 2 34 o o o o o o o o o o-o o o o o o | | | o o o o o o o o o o o-o o o o o o 1 33 ~~~~~ ~ ~~~ | | | | | +- Power from drive power connector and to SCSI Bus | +- Parity Enable ^^^[Termination?] +- SCSI ID: 3 At this point, I am at a loss on how to fix this and continue with the hardware setup. Can anyone shed some light on how to go on? Or could the above errors mean I just have a bad drive? Thanks for any insights. Travis -- | Travis Campbell |"Some people claim that the UNIX learning curve is | | travis@renaissoft.com | steep, but atleast you only have to climb it once."| |-----------------------|--------------------------------------- Anonymous --| | FreeBSD Administrator | Visit the FreeBSD Project: http://www.freebsd.org | From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 11:52:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA08867 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08861 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA25610 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:52:07 -0700 Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA18222; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:52:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607181852.OAA18222@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: trouble installing freebsd 2.1 on toshiba laptop To: byron@netapp.com (Byron Rakitzis) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:52:26 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: <9607181734.AA15447@bayonne.netapp.com> from Byron Rakitzis at "Jul 18, 96 10:34:49 am" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Byron Rakitzis wrote... > Hi. > > I have a Toshiba 415CS laptop, and I am trying to bring up freebsd. The > laptop has a built-in 4x CDROM, which I assume is ATAPI. I also have a > 3COM 3c589 PCMCIA card and am prepared to do a network installation. > > When I boot either boot.flp or atapi.flp, freebsd finds no cdrom, and > no network card! > > The really frustrating part is that it prints something in the kernel > startup about ze0 and zp0, but it all flashes by too quickly for me to > make sense of it -- I am shoved into the fullscreen installer, and I > have lost the kernel startup lines! > > I started the kernel with -c, disabled everything except the IDE bus, > serial controllers, and the zp0 driver. However, the boot still did not > find the 3c589. For laughs, I tried again disabling zp0 and enabling > ze0, since it seems to find something (although I don't know what!) > with ze0. Still nothing. > > Any hints are appreciated, esp. if there is a boot flag I can pass so > that the install utility does not start straight off so that I can at > least see what is eating the zp driver. > > Many thanks, > > Byron Rakitzis. > I have the same machine, without the CD-ROM. In order to get the 3c589 to work you'll need to know its IRQ and memory settings. The driver disk that comes with it has a utility which will tell you what you need to know, but you'll have to boot in DOS to use it :-( I have the same card - mine uses IRQ 3 (!). Once you have the settings, boot the install floppy using -c and edit the zp0 device appropriately. Getting rid of ze0 isn't a bad idea... Once you've done that you should see zp0 in the network devices list. Regards, John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 12:14:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10238 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA10232 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ag03609; 18 Jul 96 18:27 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa01143; 18 Jul 96 18:19 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00396; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:13:47 GMT From: James Raynard Message-Id: <199607181013.KAA00396@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Network Permissions (duplicate with correct return address) To: Walter Peterson Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:13:46 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31EC4547.FDA@cyberstreet.com> from "Walter Peterson" at Jul 16, 96 09:43:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a freebsd box that I allow Rlogin and telnet sessions on. I have > granted permission to use the program traceroute to the group these > people are in. When I try to use this command when not logged in as root > I egt an error, imcp socket: Permission denied. How do I grant > permission to use this command? Traceroute needs to create a "raw" socket, which can only be done if the program is running as root. For this reason, traceroute comes setuid in the distribution; it is also world readable and executable, so that these people already had permission to use it. What I suspect has happened here is that these users did not have /usr/sbin in their path, so their shell couldn't find it when they typed 'traceroute'. You helpfully copied traceroute into somewhere where they could see it, but at some point the setuid bit got lost. The simplest solution is probably to add the line alias traceroute /usr/sbin/traceroute to their .cshrc files. The reason why it's in /usr/sbin and not somewhere like /usr/bin is that it was originally intended to be run by system administrators debugging connection problems. Although it is a useful tool for people learning about networking, it can also be the source of a lot of very annoying support questions from people who don't understand how to use it (so I'm told - I've never had to share a network with people who didn't know how to use traceroute :-) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 13:17:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA14142 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from axe.intercall.com (root@axe.intercall.com [206.98.168.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14137 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proteus (ts2-118.intercall.com [207.77.25.118]) by axe.intercall.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA04578; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:17:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31EE9DA2.1D4E@intercall.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:25:06 -0400 From: Tim Palmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidg@root.com CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3c590... References: <199607171051.DAA09826@root.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ahh, very glad to hear it! Is this re-roll what WC will be pressing and selling? Tim Palmer > > ...an update on this: The 3c590 will be supported in 2.1.5 - since we > decided to re-roll the release, I went ahead and ported the driver from > -current. > > -DG > > David Greenman > Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 13:31:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA15070 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guardian.guard.ncsc.mil (guardian.guard.ncsc.mil [144.51.52.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA15063 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by guardian.guard.ncsc.mil (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA20529; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:15:08 -0400 Received: from depot(144.51.53.1) by guardian via smap (V1.3) id sma020499; Thu Jul 18 16:14:55 1996 Received: from smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil (smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil [144.51.54.211]) by depot.missi.ncsc.mil (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA18211; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:11:28 -0400 Received: by smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil with Microsoft Mail id <31EEC57F@smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil>; Thu, 18 Jul 96 16:15:11 PDT From: "Paisley, Todd G." To: Doug White , "Paisley, Todd G." Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: 3com 3C590 PCI ethernet card Date: Thu, 18 Jul 96 16:14:00 PDT Message-ID: <31EEC57F@smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil> Encoding: 46 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ooops! My fingers weren't working right. I meant 3Com 3C590 PCI ethernet card, not a 3C509 ISA card. I don't know how to set up a PCI card with Unix. Todd. ---------- From: Doug White To: Paisley, Todd G. Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: 3com 3C590 PCI ethernet card Date: Wednesday, July 17, 1996 9:30PM Return-Path: Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:30:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Paisley, Todd G." cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: 3com 3C590 PCI ethernet card In-Reply-To: <31ED5FED@smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Paisley, Todd G. wrote: > We did some upgrades to one of our servers and put in a 3Com 3C509 PCI > ethernet card. FreeBSD 2.1 installed just beautifully except for one minor > problem. It can't find the ethernet card. Is there a trick to getting this > to work with this card? Even at boot up when it is looking at the cards on > the PCI bus, it doesn't list the card as an option. Thought it might be a > bad vard, but a known good card does the exact same thing? Any thoughts? Boot -c and configure ep0 to the proper irq and base address. And turn off Plug n Pray. :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 13:47:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA16471 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamespot.com (ns1.gamespot.com [206.169.18.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA16457 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tech-a.gamespot.com (tech-a.gamespot.com [206.169.18.59]) by gamespot.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA28247 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:37:16 GMT Message-Id: <199607181337.NAA28247@gamespot.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ian Kallen" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:42:25 +0000 Subject: Re: Second HDD problems. Reply-to: ian@gamespot.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm told that there is a bug in the sysinstall in 2.1.0 that has similarly thwarted my efforts to add a 2nd scsi drive. Once I figure out the best way to migrate to 2.1.5 (all the problems I see reported on this list I find vey unsettling) -- I'm told this problem would be fixed in the 2.1.5 release -- I plan on getting that other disk on-line once I've navigated that plunge (this is my first fbsd installation ya see). > Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 05:29:12 -0600 (MDT) > From: Blair Schmittel > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Second HDD problems. > > Hello; > > I am trying to install a second SCSI HDD on one of my servers. I am using /stand/sysinstall for the disk editor. I select the whole drive to be used, go to the partitioner, partition the whole dri > e as one partition. My problem is the installer won't write the data because it wants a root partition on the drive. > > Any suggestions? > Blair > > Ian Kallen ian@gamespot.com Director of Technology & Web Administration http://www.gamespot.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 14:27:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA18621 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18616 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:27:35 -0700 (PDT) From: WSNAdmin@aol.com Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA26736 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:28:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:28:32 -0400 Message-ID: <960718172827_159156182@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installing Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk First, I would like to say thank you to all involved in the FreeBSD project. I think it is a wonderful means for learning. And learning is why I'm writing. I'll cut to the chase and I'm sorry for bugging you. I am installing from floppies (ok, so I'm taking the hard way) and I installed the /bin and /man files, how would I later install the /src binaries from a DOS floppy. I read something about the build is organized so that one can install other parts of the system (except for the src files) from an NFS mount. I would hate to have to re-install again. It seems, by reading the literature, that I can make or build the binaries....or are they already compiled and all I have to do is install. If there are no specific references to this could at least direct me to the correct commands I can wade through them and try to figure it out, but specific instructions would be great because I'm new to using UNIX/BSD from the administrator side. BTW I am using 2.1.0 not the new 2.1.5. Thank you in advance for any help that you can send my way and again for a great operating system. I'm sorry to have been a pest, I'll go out and try to find one of the basic books listed in the faq. P.S. the tutorial section is a great idea on the web. Thank you, John Moore From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 14:35:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA19261 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars.ColState.EDU (mars.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19254 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (mercury.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.32]) by mars.ColState.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01147 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:23:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CCMAIN/SpoolDir by mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Mercury 1.21); 18 Jul 96 17:38:38 EST Received: from SpoolDir by CCMAIN (Mercury 1.30); 18 Jul 96 17:38:29 EST From: "Christian" Organization: Columbus State Univ., Columbus, Ga. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:38:19 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: CAP or Netatalk? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <11E61536E16@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I need to provide file services from a freebsd box to some macs on our campus network, and I am wondering which package is better Columbia AppleTalk or Netatalk from Merit? Thanks, C.P. ____________ Christian Plazas Columbus College, Columbus,GA 706.568.2063 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 14:37:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA19561 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flash.tss.com (splash.tss.com [192.216.111.239]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA19547 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by flash.tss.com (4.1/1.37) id AA19333; Thu, 18 Jul 96 14:39:27 PDT Received: from unknown(160.101.20.20) by flash.tss.com via smap (V1.3) id sma019309; Thu Jul 18 14:39:14 1996 Received: from rv02 by tekbspa.tibco.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00625; Thu, 18 Jul 96 14:39:14 PDT Message-Id: <9607182139.AA00625@tekbspa.tibco.com> Reply-To: From: "Derek Collison" To: Subject: Installation issue Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:36:23 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1085 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to install 2.1.5-RELEASE from a DOS partition. I have the freebsd contents under a directory called freebsd on the DOS partition. As I go through novice installation I tell it to use this as the media. It seems to think awhile and then gives the following error. write failure on transfer wrote (-1 bytes of 10240 bytes). My system is as follows. Hardware Dell Dimension XPS 166c 2 EIDE 2GB Drives Software System Commander Windows 95 Linux If anyone has seen this behavior I would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance, =derek -- Derek Collison <--> collison@TIBCO.com TIBCO Inc. The Information Bus Company From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 15:06:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22664 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 15:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saluki-mail.fiber2.siu.edu (SALUKI-MAIL.FIBER2.SIU.EDU [131.230.252.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22655 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 15:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [131.230.16.14] by saluki-mail.fiber2.siu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20792; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:03:39 -0500 Message-Id: <31EEB5B6.3DB4@siu.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:07:50 -0500 From: Nathan Denny X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Floppy installation. X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm installing, via floppy, to a 386 with 2 IDE disks. I run the installation program which works just peachy ...up until the disk of death. When it gets to bin.cl it crashes the installation. I've ftp'ed in BINARY from two different sources. I've used different floppies. Each time the reported error on VTY-1 is WRITTEN -1 of 512 bytes. The debug, VTY-2, says invalid gunzip cpio or something like that. I've also tried both version 2.1.0 and 2.1.5 Please HELP! My sanity is at stake. Nate:SCHCATS! From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 16:36:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA28540 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA28520; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA03391; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:36:42 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199607182336.QAA03391@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: tkman-1.7.3 To: freebsd-hackers@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD hackers), freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:36:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-ports@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD ports) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! Does anyone happen to have a copy of tkman-1.7.3.tar.gz squirreled away someplace? (yes, I know it's an old version). Thanx! --don From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 17:01:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA00932 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:01:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salsa.habaneros.com ([207.34.140.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA00925 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jalapeno.habaneros.com (jalapeno.habaneros.com [207.34.140.98]) by salsa.habaneros.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA20141; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:46:54 -0700 Received: by jalapeno.habaneros.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB74CA.1F813D80@jalapeno.habaneros.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:56:54 -0700 Message-ID: <01BB74CA.1F813D80@jalapeno.habaneros.com> From: "Neil C. Jensen" To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Cc: "'asami@cs.berkeley.edu'" Subject: 2.1.5R and ccd questions Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:56:51 -0700 Encoding: 37 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just finished installing 2.1.5R (went very smoothly, thanks Team FreeBSD!) and thought I'd try disk mirroring using ccd. I want to mirror the contents of my entire file system so that I can reboot from one of the disk if the other fails. I have read the documentation; ccd home page and man pages and am still unclear on exactly what I need to do. I have two idential SCSI drives, sd0 & sd1. Right now the OS is installed on sd0 and I have done nothing to sd1. Do I; 1. recompile a new kernel with 'pseudo-device ccd 4' ? 2. use dd to copy the contents of sd0 to sd1? (do I need to use disklabel,partition first?) 3. create the /etc/ccd.conf file with CCDF_MIRROR flag? 4. now run ccdconfig, creating device ccd0? 5. is ccd0 now my device with the original filesystem installed, except now I am mirrored? 6. by default, I think the system will boot from sd0. If sd0 fails, how do I get the system to boot from sd1, will it automatically check for a valid system there? 7. how do I test if ccd is working? Thanks in advance for your help. I will compile any responses I get for possible inclusion in the handbook. Neil Jensen Habanero Studios Ltd Vancouver, Canada From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 17:04:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA01228 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01220 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ab17271; 19 Jul 96 0:52 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa05652; 19 Jul 96 0:51 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA09526; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:42:28 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:42:28 GMT Message-Id: <199607182142.VAA09526@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: jriffle@ns.kconline.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Jim Riffle on Thu, 18 Jul 1996 02:04:30 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: wanting to 'make world' to upgrade Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Jim Riffle writes: > > I was considering upgrading from 2.1.0-Release to 2.1.5-Release via > the ctm deltas for 2.1.0-Stable, but have a few questions about this. > > 1. Would doing a make world clobber my /etc directory? No, you have to merge in changes to /etc by hand. > 2. I would like to do this in a running system, I really do not want to > take the system down to single user mode to do this, does this pose a > problem? Strictly speaking you should, but I've never had any problems doing it in multi-user mode. I was very cautious about using system programs while it was installing, though. > 3. If I were to upgrade in this fashion, what would "uname" report the > kernal as being after I recompile it? "2.1.0-Stable" or "2.1.5-Release" You have to re-compile the kernel separately after 'make world' has finished. I'm not sure offhand whether it would show up as 2.1.5-stable or 2.1.5-release, but it won't be "2.1.0-stable". > 4. Any other concerns anyone can thing about doing it this way? Would it > just be better to boot off the floppie and do an "upgrade" install? It may well be easier and quicker that way. Even with a top-range Pentium with lots of RAM, it will probably take 3-4 hours to do a 'make world' (it takes 5-6 hours on my P100). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 17:15:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02076 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02070 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ax17663; 19 Jul 96 1:02 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa05610; 19 Jul 96 0:51 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA10261; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:04:08 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:04:08 GMT Message-Id: <199607182204.WAA10261@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: zgabor@code.hu CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607181420.OAA00226@CoDe.CoDe.hu> (message from Gabor Zahemszky on Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:20:11 +0000 (GMT)) Subject: Re: I18N Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Gabor Zahemszky writes: > > I'm using FreeBSD 2.1.0R. I'd like to make a whole Hungarian locale. > I've made some type of keyboard descriptor file, generate 3 console > font files. Great! > a) is there any manual page about the format of this file? > (I've got it from James Raynard, who get it from -current, but (as he says) > doesn't know too much about internationalisation.) Indeed - I only found out what I18N stood for a week ago... I'd like to help you, but I'm not able to run -current until I get a replacement for the disk that died a week or two ago. :-( The best person to contact is probably Andrey Chernov (ache@freebsd.org), who is the FreeBSD Internationalisation Officer. All I can say really at the moment is that the internationalisation support in -current is much better than it was in 2.1.0, and I've no idea how much (if any) of the new work has gone into 2.1.5. I'll try and get back to you if I ever manage to get -current running here again... Incidentally, when you do get this finished, how would you like to write up some guidelines? I'm sure there are many FreeBSD users around the world who would like to work in their own locale, but don't know how to start and would find something like this really useful. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 17:15:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02123 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02118 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa17326; 19 Jul 96 0:53 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa05664; 19 Jul 96 0:51 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA09511; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:07:53 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:07:53 GMT Message-Id: <199607182107.VAA09511@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: roeya@iol.co.il, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Doug White on Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:07:51 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Video Display Cards Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Doug White writes: > > On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Roey Almog wrote: > > > 2. Another importent aspect to software devlopers is a daul monitor > > support currently I use MDA monitor to run a debugger and to send > > debug massages to, and the S_VGA monitor is free for the tested > > application. Is these will be possible on the FreeBSD o/s ? > > I don't know if FreeBSD itself supports multiheaded displays. XFree > might. I can't say I've tried it. XFree does indeed - I remember once reading about someone who had two X displays running under FreeBSD, although unfortunately I can't remember how he did it. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 17:19:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02378 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer10.u.washington.edu (durang@homer10.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02372 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer10.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15413; Thu, 18 Jul 96 17:19:09 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:19:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: Gabor Zahemszky Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel Pentium vs AMD/Cyrix/NexGen In-Reply-To: <199607181417.OAA00199@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, I am running FreeBSD ver. 2.0.5 on my AMD DX4-120 (Enhanced version) without any processor related trouble. Note: I couldn't even boot LINUX, but I don't know if that is a processor thing or not... Maybe you haven't heard... NexGen was bought out by AMD(?) and is discontinued. Ken Marsh On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Gabor Zahemszky wrote: > Hi! > > I would like to know more pros/cons about these type of processors. > So many people said something about Cyrix, but nothing about the other clones. > So? Are there any known differences? What about a multiprocessor machine > with these clone processors? > -- > Gabor Zahemszky > > -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- > Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. > Tsiolkovsky > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 17:30:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02854 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02849 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id az17663; 19 Jul 96 1:02 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa05635; 19 Jul 96 0:51 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA09516; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:29:07 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:29:07 GMT Message-Id: <199607182129.VAA09516@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: vesskov@mgu.bg CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607180605.JAA19837@cserv.mgu.bg> (message from Vesselin Kovatchev on Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:05:28 +0300) Subject: Re: language support? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Vesselin Kovatchev writes: > Hi. I'm a Bulgarian. Hello, it's good to see FreeBSD spreading across the world. > I'm trying your FreeBSD 2.0.5. It's wonderful system. Thank you! > I want to know how can I get the latest vesrions, their prices etc. The latest version is 2.1.5, which has just come out. You should be able to get it from wherever you got 2.0.5. As usual, it's free of charge (except for whatever it costs you to FTP it down or get the CDROM). > And if I'd like to install BSD for communication server and for terminal server, how to buy the original version, sources FreeBSD is very well-suited for running servers. It is actually free of charge, including the full source code, so you don't need to pay us anything! > and especially does the commercial version support our cyrillic langiage - fonts, key mapping, etc. for text sessions and X. There is a set of Cyrillic fonts you can install with X. I'm not aware of any specific Bulgarian support, but there is good support for Russian key-mappings, dates, etc. I don't know if that's close enough - if not, you are welcome to try and improve it! FreeBSD is a volunteer project, and it works by people doing things they need and offering them back to their fellow users. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 17:30:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02903 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02898 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id bb17663; 19 Jul 96 1:02 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa05674; 19 Jul 96 0:51 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA09506; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:02:56 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:02:56 GMT Message-Id: <199607182102.VAA09506@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: winter@agony.vip.best.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Doug White on Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:54:41 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Slow transfers Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Doug White writes: > > On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Nuclear Winter wrote: > > I searched the mailing list archives and couldn't seem to find an answer > > to this problem. I'm having rather slow transfer rates across my 28.8 > > PPP connection. I'm using iijppp to establish my connections and have no > > problems with my modem. I'm assuming I've overlooked something in my > > configuration somewhere. Any helpful input would be appreciated. Thanks. > > What do you mean "slow"? My connection seems to be halfway decent. Perhaps Mr/Ms Winter is suffering from iijppp's problems with predictor1 compression? The advice in the FAQ is to turn this off by doing deny pred1 disable pred1 -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 17:33:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA03037 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA03031 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ac17271; 19 Jul 96 0:52 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa05557; 19 Jul 96 0:50 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA09521; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:34:09 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:34:09 GMT Message-Id: <199607182134.VAA09521@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: paul@nation-net.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31EDF4F7.A1F@nation-net.com> (message from Paul Walsh on Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:25:27 +0100) Subject: Re: secure httpd for use in UK Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Paul Walsh writes: > > Can anyone recommend a secure httpd package that RSA will certify, for > use in the UK? On the freeBSD platform of course. Pipex are distributing the Netscape Secure Server, but they seem to want rather a lot of money for it (rather more than the company I used to work for was able to pay for it, anyway!) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 17:53:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA04547 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov (mailhost.lanl.gov [128.165.3.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04535 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hamlet.lanl.gov.lanl.gov by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.7.5/1.2) id SAA08018; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:53:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by hamlet.lanl.gov.lanl.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06468; Thu, 18 Jul 96 18:53:14 MDT Date: Thu, 18 Jul 96 18:53:14 MDT From: crs@hamlet.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby) Message-Id: <9607190053.AA06468@hamlet.lanl.gov.lanl.gov> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Modem question Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I hope there's someone out there who knows modems and their interaction with FreeBSD (or BSD in general). They seem to be black magic to me. I'll describe my problem first and then append lines from some of the relevant files and information about equipment. Please let me know it there's any information that I should have provided but did not. I am trying to set up a microcom DeskPorte FAST (v.34) modem on my FreeBSD system (Pentium 120 MHz, SCSI, etc.). For historical reasons, the modem is connected to the second serial port. Please don't tell me to get a different modem--that isn't an option for various reasons. The closest I could come if absolutely necessary would be a microcom DeskPorte 28.8S. So far, if I tip to the modem (using the command line "tip fake" -- see below), I can talk to it and dial out using atd... Here are the relevant lines from /etc/ttys: ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.57600" vt102 on secure cuaa1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.57600" unknown off secure To tip to the modem to give it AT commands directly, here is the relevant section from /etc/remote: cuaa1:dv=/dev/cuaa1:pa=none:br#57600: fake:\ :el=^U^C^R^O^D^S^Q:ie=#%$:oe=^D:\ :pa=none:\ :tc=cuaa1: But if I try to use the acu, here's what I get: % tip hamlet Using "/dev/cuaa1" timeout waiting for reply tip: can't synchronize with microcom timeout waiting for reply timeout waiting for reply timeout waiting for reply timeout waiting for reply timeout waiting for reply hang up failed call failed [EOT] I'm also unable to have ppp autodial. My guess is that that is a manifestation of the same problem but, if not, material for another question later. But when I try "tip hamlet" as shown above I use: tip57600:\ :el=^U^C^R^O^D^S^Q:ie=#%$:oe=^D:\ :pa=none:\ :tc=dial57600: dial57600|57600 Baud Hayes attributes:\ :dv=/dev/cuaa1:br#57600:cu=/dev/cuaa1:at=microcom:du: hamlet:pn=6673564:tc=tip57600: I currently have the following in /etc/modems: microcom|hayes|Microcom Deskporte FAST 28.8K:\ :dial_command=ATDT%s\r:\ :hangup_command=ATH\r:\ :echo_off_command=ATE0\r:\ :reset_command=AT&z3\r:\ :init_string=ATZ3e0v0\r:\ :escape_sequence=+++:\ :hw_flow_control:\ :lock_baud:\ :intercharacter_delay#50:\ :intercommand_delay#250:\ :escape_guard_time#500:\ :reset_delay#2000: I will append a copy of my modem setup (e.g. user profile 3 which is what atz3 calls up). Perhaps there's a suitable init string that I could substitute for what I have that will solve the problem or perhaps I'm overlooking something that's obvious to everyone else. My guess is that my problem is something simple that I'm overlooking but.... Mega-Thanks for any help. Charlie PS Here's the modem setup called by atz3 (as seen by Unix script): Script started on Thu Jul 18 18:24:41 1996 PC% tip fake connected 000 IDLE 000:24:49 LAST DIAL 6673564 ID: NET ADDR: 000090060B6D MODEM HW: SA 2W United States 4 RTS 5 CTS 6 DSR - CD 20 DTR - RI Current User Profile: 3 MODULATION V.8 MODEM BPS 28800 AT%G0 MODEM FLOW OFF AT\G0 MODEM MODE AUT AT\N3 V.23 OPR. OFF AT%F0 AUTO ANS. OFF ATS0=0 SERIAL BPS 57600 AT%U0 PARALLEL PORT OFF AT BPS ADJUST OFF AT\J0 SPT BPS ADJ. 0 AT\W0 ANSWER MESSGS ON ATQ0 SERIAL FLOW BHW AT\Q3 - STRIKE ANY KEY TO CONTINUE - PASS XON/XOFF OFF AT\X0 PARITY 8N AT BREAK 5 AT\K5 EXIT CHAR 043 ATS2=43 CMD ECHO OFF ATE0 RESULTS ON ATQ0 RESULT TYPE EXT ATV0\V2 CONNECT MSG MDM ATW2 CONN MNP- 0 AT-M0 SPEED MATCH 1 AT%L1 EQUALIZER 1 AT:E1 FALLBACK 2 AT-Q2 DATA ECHO OFF AT\E0 INACT TIMER 00 AT\T0 AUTO RETRAIN ON AT%E1 COMPRESSION ALL AT%C3 MAX BLK SIZE 256 AT\A3 AUTO BUFF 0 AT\C0 - STRIKE ANY KEY TO CONTINUE - AUTO CHAR 000 AT%A0 EMULATING HP OFF AT\H0 PAUSE TIME 002 ATS8=2 DTR 2 AT&D2 CARR DET 1 AT&C1 DSR 0 AT\D0 RING IND 1 AT\R1 SPKR CTRL 1 ATM1 SPKR VOL 2 ATL2 LEASE LINE 0 AT&L0 ASYNC/SYNC 0 AT&M0 CTS/RTS 0 AT&R0 LNG SPC DISC OFF ATY0 SIM RING 0 AT:R0 CD DELAY 000 AT:U0 CTS DELAY 000 AT:V0 DSR DELAY 000 AT:X0 DISC DELAY 000 AT%D0 - STRIKE ANY KEY TO CONTINUE - REM CHAR 042 AT*S42 REM ENABLE OFF AT*E0 REM SEC OFF AT*R0 RDLB ENABLE OFF AT&T5 DIAL MODE 4 ATX4 PULSE DIAL 60% AT&P0 PULSE MODE N AT%W0 V.24 TST MODES OFF AT%H0 V23 HD EQU ON AT%O1 GUARD TONE 0 AT&G0 ASYNC PROTOCOL NONE AT:K0 KERMIT MARK 001 AT:Q1 2ND FC OFF AT-F0 NM BIT VALUE 0 AT-E0 PAR CHK 0 AT-P0 MANUAL DIAL 0 AT:D0 RESET CONFIG 3 AT&Y3 UPSHIFT BPS OFF AT*H0 - STRIKE ANY KEY TO CONTINUE - CELLULAR OFF AT)M0 LINETYPE 000 AT@M0 DETECT PHASE ON AT-J1 MNP EXT SVC 1 AT-K1 READ SWITCHES ON AT$K0 O/A BUTTON ON AT$O0 TD ENABLE ON AT$T0 AUTOLOGON VIEW ON AT$V1 AUTOLOGON ANS 0 AT$A0 DIALBACK SEC OFF AT$G0 CALLBACK TMR 000 AT)H0 CLOCK SOURCE MDM AT&X0 UNIV V.23 1 AT-V1 CONNECT MSG 1ST AT@C0 V25 COMPLIANCE 0 AT@B0 PCS ENFORCE 0 AT$M0 DUMB MODE OFF AT-H0 BELL ON ATB1 0~ [EOT] PC% exit PC% exit Script done on Thu Jul 18 18:25:21 1996 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 18:13:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA06442 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (s_koyin@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.6.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06432 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from s_koyin@localhost) by eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA30869; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:13:36 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:13:36 +1000 (EST) From: HMG coA reductase To: Byron Rakitzis cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: trouble installing freebsd 2.1 on toshiba laptop In-Reply-To: <9607181734.AA15447@bayonne.netapp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I started the kernel with -c, disabled everything except the IDE bus, > serial controllers, and the zp0 driver. However, the boot still did not > find the 3c589. For laughs, I tried again disabling zp0 and enabling > ze0, since it seems to find something (although I don't know what!) > with ze0. Still nothing. > > Any hints are appreciated, esp. if there is a boot flag I can pass so > that the install utility does not start straight off so that I can at > least see what is eating the zp driver. you can press Scroll-Lock once the colorful screen appears, then use Page-Up and Page-Down to scroll around. Press Scroll-Lock again to deactivate scrollback mode. ivan From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 18:16:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA06780 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (s_koyin@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.6.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06729 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from s_koyin@localhost) by eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA02548; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:16:41 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:16:40 +1000 (EST) From: HMG coA reductase To: Derek Collison cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation issue In-Reply-To: <9607182139.AA00625@tekbspa.tibco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i saw this happen when the DOS partition you've mounted and want to read from has a cluster size > 32k (ie, > 64 sectors per cluster). my solution: FIPS the big DOS partition to create a smaller partition, then format this one in DOS. copy the freebsd files to this new partition, and mount this one. you can un-FIPS it after installation, but your original big DOS partition would not be _safely_ readable from BSD still. ivan On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Derek Collison wrote: > I am trying to install 2.1.5-RELEASE from a DOS partition. I have the > freebsd contents under a directory called freebsd on the DOS partition. As I > go through novice installation I tell it to use this as the media. It seems > to think awhile and then gives the following error. > > write failure on transfer wrote (-1 bytes of 10240 bytes). > > [snip] From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 18:38:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA08954 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA08948 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA02044 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:38:25 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA00179 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:30:22 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607190130.SAA00179@starshine> Subject: text = 0xe3000 - -- and locks: Why? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:30:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Okay all, I give in. What's the magic incantation I have to type into my system to get it to boot? Here's the situation: I have a 16Mb 386DX33 with a ULSI 387 Match-coprocessor, a QuickPath Portfolio 550E I/O card (4serial, 2 IDE channels, 4 floppy, 2 parallel, and a game port) one 220M WD IDE hard drive, on 2.5G DEC SCSI hard drive, an Adaptec 1542C SCSI host adapter, and an old Texel double speed CD-ROM (and a 1Mb Tseng ET4000 SVGA card). I have a 32Mb DOS partition on the IDE drive. Linux is installed an extended partition of the DEC (the SCSI HD) it is booted via LOADLIN.EXE. All of that works like a charm (I'm typing on it now). So far, under the old Linux installation, I have configured uucp, dial in terminal, dial out terminal, and some fax stuff (mgetty). It is my intent to convert this system to FreeBSD, bring up Taylor, get a working copy of cnews configured, and get dial-out and incoming PPP working, and integrate a working send/recieve fax gateway on it. I started by trying to install 2.2 SNAP on from the WC CD-ROM. First problem: Hangs after ze0 or zp0. Solution: boot with the -c option, ls the configured devices, disable npx0 (also used visual and disabled all of the other unecessary drivers). So I could get booted and into the installation script. Now I decided to install FreeBSD on the other 170Mb of the IDE drive. It seemed like it would be easiest (I just blew away the extended DOS partition that had been there). Second problem: Crashes, Panics, Hangs, and Reboots after fdisk/disklabel. I tried several variations on this them. It seems like it gets to where it wants to write to the disk and starts scrolling some error (something about IOPL's???) and flickering the screen until it reboots itself. I can't read the messages in any detail. One time I seemed to get it to the point where I had selected the packages and had it die on a bad block (in fact it seems to bad block checking that it's dying on -- there really are a couple of bad blocks on that drive; they're way out at the end). Workaround: Install everything on the SCSI drive (1.5 Gig free) So I created one FreeBSD partition on that. Then I split that into a reasonable set of slices (64M for root, 48M for swap, 63M for /var, rest for /usr). 2.2 SNAP was still giving me trouble after that (I don't remember what it was right now -- but it was bad enough that I switched to plan B. Plan B: Borrowed my old 2.1.0 CD set from my former employer (McAfee Associates) -- I don't remember if I ever turned it a receipt on it but they aren't concerned -- their systems are stable and they know where to find me if they need the CD's back. Still had to use the "disable npx0" configuration option. Still can't install on the IDE drive. Got the whole thing installed on the SCSI drive with no error. Now to boot it. My early attempts had resulted in BootEasy being installed on both MBR's. I had tried (in a couple attempts out of the many) to disable the IDE by removing it from the CMOS. This did force the BIOS to try booting off of the SCSI -- but didn't resolve the main problem. I press F5 (other drive), and F2 (second primary partition on the SCSI drive) and type -c or "kernel.GENERIC -c" to attempt to load the kernel from the hard drive (so I can tell it to ignore my "not quite compatible" math co). (I've also tried removing the math co physically from the system). What I get now is a message like: sd(1,a)/kernel @ 0x100000 text = 0xe3000 - (the "twirl-a-gig" spins for a second and tops right there). I tried booting, loading the Fixit disk/shell, and copying a different kernel onto the root partition on sd0. I've tried several variations of boots and parameters (including physically unplugging the IDE drive). Throughout every attempt at configuring this I've been able to boot into DOS and thence to Linux (and get my mail). All of the mail you've seen from me here has been coming from this system. I really don't want to resort to plan c. Plan C: Give up on FreeBSD for this box. Install a new Linux (Debian 1.1?) and use it instead. So: What can I do to get this thing up and running (at least long enough to build a kernel and get it copied off to my DOS partition where I can use FBSD.EXE (???) or a LOADLIN clone to load it)? How do I create, get, a boot, root set that gets me to a shell prompt (the fixit shell seems a little too limited and *wayyyy toooo slooooowww*? What am I doing wrong? What are the rest of those boot parameters for (-vCs etc)? I wish I could be more detailed about the exact error messages I'm getting. I kept figuring that this would be a simple installation -- so I didn't take notes (like I would have if this wasn't my home machine). I should note that part of this process was before I bought the Portfolio and the Tseng video. I was getting largely the same symptoms with my old 512K PVGA (Paradise clone) and my my ratty old Wonder Systems "super I/O" card, and with my alternative Promise IDE and "Startech" 2 port serial card" back in there. I chose to replace the video card since X was unusable on the old one (just too slow and too ugly) -- and I do need to *occasionally* see things in Netscape and/or Mosaic. I chose to replace the I/O card since their was an I/O conflict that would even kill Linux if I touched COM3 (/dev/ttyS2) on the old set up -- and the 16450 UARTS weren't keeping up with my file transfers via the 28.8 modem. Since I've upgraded the I/O card Linux has been very stable (and it would go months at a time with no problem even before so long as I didn't touch that one com port). Plan D is to keep this buggy old slackware installed and upgrade each component piecemeal (starting with cnews). (I knew that I'd get punished for daring to call myself a "consultant" -- argh!). Jim Dennis, Starshine Technical Services From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 18:50:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA10057 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA10049 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id av17663; 19 Jul 96 1:02 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa05592; 19 Jul 96 0:50 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA09405; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:44:33 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:44:33 GMT Message-Id: <199607182044.UAA09405@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: blair@strech.cyber-naut.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607181129.FAA00223@strech.cyber-naut.com> (message from Blair Schmittel on Thu, 18 Jul 1996 05:29:12 -0600 (MDT)) Subject: Re: Second HDD problems. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Blair Schmittel writes: > > I am trying to install a second SCSI HDD on one of my servers. I am using /stand/sysinstall for the disk editor. I select the whole drive to be used, go to the partitioner, partition the whole drive as one partition. My problem is the installer won't write the data because it wants a root partition on the drive. > Any suggestions? Humour it? :-) If sysinstall wants a root partition on the drive, then give it one (it won't really be a root partition unless you go on and complete the installation, so it's a harmless piece of deception...) BTW could you try and press the return key every 70-72 characters? Your message arrived as a single long line, which is difficult to read on some mailers. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 18:57:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA10459 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA10452 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ae17338; 19 Jul 96 0:54 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa05585; 19 Jul 96 0:50 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA09376; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:30:25 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:30:25 GMT Message-Id: <199607182030.UAA09376@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: durang@u.washington.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Ken Marsh on Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:31:04 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Kernel rebuild errors Part II Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Ken Marsh writes: > > In regard to the kernel rebuild errors message of today, about 30 minutes > ago, The majority of the errors are of the form: > > ../../pci/if_dc.c:####: derefernecing pointer to incomplete type Hmm. This is usually a sign that an include file has been omitted, which points to an error in the config file. Presumably you meant if_de.c? There isn't an if_dc.c file in that directory. This is the driver for the DEC 21040 family of Ethernet cards. If you do not have such a card, you can work around this by commenting out the line that says "device de0". > Where #### is a four-digit number, such as 1845. These will be the line numbers in if_de.c where the error occurred. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 19:28:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA13585 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA13551 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA13373; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607190227.TAA13373@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Tim Palmer cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3c590... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:25:06 EDT." <31EE9DA2.1D4E@intercall.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:27:45 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Ahh, very glad to hear it! Is this re-roll what WC will be pressing and selling? Yes. ...although the port of the driver has had virtually NO testing prior to the 2.1.5 release, so Let the Buyer Beware. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project >Tim Palmer > >> >> ...an update on this: The 3c590 will be supported in 2.1.5 - since we >> decided to re-roll the release, I went ahead and ported the driver from >> -current. >> >> -DG >> >> David Greenman >> Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 20:12:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA19164 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU (PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU [130.218.100.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA19155 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dyeske@localhost) by PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA06933; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:12:35 -0400 (EDT) From: David Paul Yeske To: questions@freebsd.org, support@cdrom.com Subject: job Message-ID: Organization: Kennesaw State College MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk any job openings at walnut creek? ================================================================================ David Paul Yeske voice 770-518-9715 pager 770-212-4549 mailto:dyeske@pigseye.kennesaw.edu mailto:dyeske@nyx.net mailto:dyeske@cyberspace.org http://www.cyberspace.org/~dyeske http://www.nyx.net/~dyeske mailto:david.yeske@sid.net ================================================================================ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 20:23:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA19727 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from axe.intercall.com (root@axe.intercall.com [206.98.168.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA19715 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proteus (ts2-93.intercall.com [207.77.25.93]) by axe.intercall.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA24960; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31EF019A.688E@intercall.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:31:38 -0400 From: Tim Palmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidg@root.com CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3c590... References: <199607190227.TAA13373@root.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David Greenman wrote: > > >Ahh, very glad to hear it! Is this re-roll what WC will be pressing and selling? > > Yes. ...although the port of the driver has had virtually NO testing prior > to the 2.1.5 release, so Let the Buyer Beware. > > -DG Yes, I've seen the posts... Thank you again and good luck on the road to 2.2! Tim Palmer From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 20:28:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA20160 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fw.tabula.com (fw.tabula.com [204.160.137.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA20147 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fw.tabula.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22094; Thu, 18 Jul 96 20:28:10 PDT Received: from tab012.tabula.com(204.119.64.12) by fw.tabula.com via smap (V1.3) id sma022092; Thu Jul 18 20:27:53 1996 Received: by tabula.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15649; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:26:23 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:26:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Thor Clark To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: help -system hangs - the ongoing saga Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (original problem detailed at end) Some new info, compiled a new kernel with DDB, and escaped into it after system hung - many of the processes (including init) were waiting with lock_write f020e004 I continued a few times, and this didn't change I don't know what this means, or what else I should be looking for... I'm wondering if this is hardware failure at this point, but don't know what to check. Many thanks for any help (even a 'give it up' ;) -Thor Clark thor@tabula.com PS (problem description) problem: After a few hours of activity, system will not start new processes of any kind. It will respond to pings, but that's about all - no telnet, login, http, etc. Background and interactive processes continue to run, but killing off interactive processes does not have any effect on the system - the only recourse is to physically reboot. This is now happening every ~3 hours. No kernel panic occurs, and no kernel messages are ever logged. The system has never recovered on its own ( down once for > 12 hours). system: 2.1 Release (from cd) - kernel recompiled, installed with maxusers 128 options "NMBCLUSTERS=2048" options "OPEN_MAX=256" options "CHILD_MAX=256" 16M, IDE, ASUS P55TP4, 3C509 ethernet runs CERN3.0 httpd, sends out a lot of mail, a few minor background processes, and a lot of short-term, cpu intensive scripts From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 20:43:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA21823 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA21812 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA13533; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607190343.UAA13533@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Thor Clark cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help -system hangs - the ongoing saga In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:26:20 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:43:28 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >(original problem detailed at end) >Some new info, >compiled a new kernel with DDB, and escaped into it after system hung - >many of the processes (including init) were waiting with > >lock_write f020e004 > >I continued a few times, and this didn't change >I don't know what this means, or what else I should be looking for... >I'm wondering if this is hardware failure at this point, but don't know >what to check. >Many thanks for any help (even a 'give it up' ;) This is likely fixed in 2.1.5. There was a bug that could be easily triggered with doing a pair of ps(8)'s at the wrong time and resulted in the above hang. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 21:01:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA23256 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.w3page.com (root@p24.pm-2.pm.dimensional.com [206.100.130.56]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA23251 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion (blaine@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.w3page.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA01140 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:01:52 -0600 Message-ID: <31EF08B0.22E911BA@w3page.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:01:52 -0600 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 21:05:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA23725 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA23719 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00243; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:05:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Paisley, Todd G." cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: 3com 3C590 PCI ethernet card In-Reply-To: <31EEC57F@smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Paisley, Todd G. wrote: > > Ooops! My fingers weren't working right. I meant 3Com 3C590 PCI ethernet > card, not a 3C509 ISA card. I don't know how to set up a PCI card with > Unix. Heh. That is much easier: just plug it in. The PCI bus implements REAL plug & play. It'll be found and configured on startup. If you need to make IRQ changes, you do that through BIOS setup. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 21:16:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA24677 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamespot.com (ns1.gamespot.com [206.169.18.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA24669 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tech-a.gamespot.com (tech-a.gamespot.com [206.169.18.59]) by gamespot.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA01838 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:06:08 GMT Message-Id: <199607182106.VAA01838@gamespot.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ian Kallen" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:10:49 +0000 Subject: in_rtqtimo kernel errors Reply-to: ian@gamespot.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I got a series of kernel errors in the log like this /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2400 /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1600 /kernel: in_rtqtimo:adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1066 /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 710 about ten minutes apart and then it stopped. Is this something to be concerned about? I had streamlined my kernel (took out all the superfluous GENERIC items) and increased the "maxusers" setting. Other than these messages in the log, everything seems a-OK (knock wood!). tia Ian Kallen ian@gamespot.com Director of Technology & Web Administration http://www.gamespot.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 21:17:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA24864 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.w3page.com (blaine@p24.pm-2.pm.dimensional.com [206.100.130.56]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA24855 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from blaine@localhost) by orion.w3page.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA01181 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:18:05 -0600 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:18:05 -0600 From: Blaine Minazzi Message-Id: <199607190418.WAA01181@orion.w3page.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 21:20:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA25100 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu (root@mail.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.139.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25093 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oink.cs.utexas.edu (miker@oink.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.138.84]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA11544 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:20:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Hung Michael Nguyen Received: by oink.cs.utexas.edu (8.7.1/Client-1.4) id XAA24270; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:19:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607190419.XAA24270@oink.cs.utexas.edu> Subject: JDK 1.0.2 available for FreeBSD? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:19:57 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to learn Java, however, I don't want to boot WinNT. Thanks, Mike. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 21:21:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA25198 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fw.tabula.com (fw.tabula.com [204.160.137.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA25191 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fw.tabula.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22305; Thu, 18 Jul 96 21:21:12 PDT Received: from tab012.tabula.com(204.119.64.12) by fw.tabula.com via smap (V1.3) id sma022303; Thu Jul 18 21:20:23 1996 Received: by tabula.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15741; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:18:53 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:18:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Thor Clark To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: David Greenman Subject: Re: help -system hangs - the ongoing saga In-Reply-To: <199607190343.UAA13533@root.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, David Greenman wrote: cool, upgrade time... Until I do, are there any other known triggers/situations I can avoid? Thanks -Thor Clark > >many of the processes (including init) were waiting with > > > >lock_write f020e004 > > > > This is likely fixed in 2.1.5. There was a bug that could be easily > triggered with doing a pair of ps(8)'s at the wrong time and resulted > in the above hang. > > -DG > > David Greenman > Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 21:26:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA25730 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25721 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA13618; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607190425.VAA13618@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: ian@gamespot.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: in_rtqtimo kernel errors In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:10:49 -0000." <199607182106.VAA01838@gamespot.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:25:33 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I got a series of kernel errors in the log like this > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2400 > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1600 > /kernel: in_rtqtimo:adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1066 > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 710 >about ten minutes apart and then it stopped. Is this something to >be concerned about? I had streamlined my kernel (took out all the >superfluous GENERIC items) and increased the "maxusers" setting. >Other than these messages in the log, everything seems a-OK (knock >wood!). They are just informing you that the kernel is adjusting the route expiration on clone routes. The message should probably be removed, put into a compile-time #ifdef, or at the very least made less ambiguous about what they're trying to tell you. In any case, you can ignore them. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 21:27:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA25788 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25781 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA13633; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607190427.VAA13633@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Thor Clark cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help -system hangs - the ongoing saga In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:18:48 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:27:03 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, David Greenman wrote: > >cool, upgrade time... >Until I do, are there any other known triggers/situations I can avoid? Of this particular problem? Not that I can think of. There are plenty of other bugs in 2.1, however. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project >Thanks >-Thor Clark > >> >many of the processes (including init) were waiting with >> > >> >lock_write f020e004 >> > >> >> This is likely fixed in 2.1.5. There was a bug that could be easily >> triggered with doing a pair of ps(8)'s at the wrong time and resulted >> in the above hang. >> >> -DG >> >> David Greenman >> Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project >> From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 21:40:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA27079 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line8.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27070 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00274; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:40:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Goran Larsson cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About "a new file system" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Goran Larsson wrote: > Hello FreeBSD friends! > > I am at the moment running some FreeBSD servers on my WebSite "pluggnet.se" > They are all "standard" installed with "novice" help in setup, everything > works 100% well!! until the device wd0 whent out of space! on /var > mounted partition. > > My task and problems: > > I installed an "primary slave" drive and got it to run as wd1, FreeBSD > "knows" about the drive OK! > > I boot up my computer whith "boot" disk an run "Expert" mode, in > the "fdisk" section i create my partitions with "A" (auto) then i > write info to disk with "W". I put an "ordinary" record NOT boot on the > new disk. I end this section with "Q". Oops! You didn't want to rite it! That function is severely broken. > I want the disk to operate as one partition and creates only one > whit disklabel utility, but i am not able to write info to disk. That's why. Delete the partition and start over. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 21:42:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA27274 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line8.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27265 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00282; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:42:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Tony Kanakis cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Can't get ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/floppies/boot.flp to work In-Reply-To: <31EE7BE4.2E0B@hsi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Tony Kanakis wrote: > I copied > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/floppies/boot.flp and > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/tools/dos-tools/rawrite.exe and ran > it on a formatted floppy on two different pcs and can't get to the boot > prompt. It starts to read the disk then hang with nothing on the screen. > Any ideas? . boot.flp downloaded in binary mode? . error-free, formatted floppy? . rawrite run under straight DOS? (_NO_ win95) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 21:50:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA28137 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28126 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA06035; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 00:50:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: Tony Kanakis , questions@FreeBSD.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Can't get ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/floppies/boot.flp to work In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:42:31 PDT." Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 00:50:28 -0400 Message-ID: <6032.837751828@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White wrote in message ID : > . rawrite run under straight DOS? (_NO_ win95) Or NT Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 21:57:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA28750 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line8.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28743 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00296; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:57:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Nathan Denny cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Floppy installation. In-Reply-To: <31EEB5B6.3DB4@siu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Nathan Denny wrote: > I'm installing, via floppy, to a 386 with 2 IDE disks. > I run the installation program which works just peachy ...up until the > disk of death. When it gets to bin.cl it crashes the installation. > I've ftp'ed in BINARY from two different sources. I've used different > floppies. Each time the reported error on VTY-1 is WRITTEN -1 of 512 bytes. > The debug, VTY-2, says invalid gunzip cpio or something like that. > I've also tried both version 2.1.0 and 2.1.5 Please HELP! My sanity is at > stake. Are you sure the disk you're using is good? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 21:59:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA28956 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line8.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28948 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00300; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:59:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Tim Steele cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Great stuff so far In-Reply-To: <199607181602.RAA02840@sirius.tadpole.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Tim Steele wrote: > I still don't know how you managed to cram so much onto the install floppy! It's a secret. :-) > When I try and do an ftp install, everything goes right up to the message > "Logging in as ftp.." when my machine appears to hang. I've tried several > different sites. I know the network connection is OK as I can see everything > if I boot Windows95, and I run the network at my company 8-). Did you reconfigure the system to use the proper parameters for your ethernet card? Do you have the rebuilt RELEASE floppy? (I see you're on a 3com card...) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 22:05:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA29417 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line8.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29409 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00311; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:04:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: WSNAdmin@aol.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing In-Reply-To: <960718172827_159156182@emout15.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996 WSNAdmin@aol.com wrote: > I am installing from floppies (ok, so I'm taking the hard way) and I > installed the /bin and /man files, how would I later install the /src > binaries from a DOS floppy. I read something about the build is organized so > that one can install other parts of the system (except for the src files) > from an NFS mount. I would hate to have to re-install again. It seems, by > reading the literature, that I can make or build the binaries....or are they > already compiled and all I have to do is install. If you didn't install them the first time, then you have to do it manually. Luckily, it's not hard to do manually. I'm assuming you're installing the kernel source (the ssys.* archives). Adjust filenames as necessary. su to root. get all the archives in one place (mounting/copying floppies as necessary) run 'cat ssys.* | tar tzf - | more' to see where it will go cd to proper directory run 'cat ssys.* | tar xzf -' Hope this helps. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 22:14:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA00433 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line8.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00427 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00325; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:13:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "anthony m. vervoort" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with installation In-Reply-To: <199607181840.LAA14856@netcom3.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, anthony m. vervoort wrote: > I tried following the instructions provided on the website for creating and > using a boot disk to begin the install, but it doesn't seem to be working. > > I downloaded the boot.flp and rawrite.exe files from the server, rebooted the > machine in dos mode (it was running win95 before), and ran rawrite to create > the boot disk to a dos formatted floppy. > > When I try to boot from the floppy, the machine gets to the point where it > reads the floppy to load the OS, and it accesses the drive for about 3 seconds, > then all activity stops and the machine sits there. 1. Error-free floppy? 2. download in binary mode? 3. Use a true DOS (v6.22) boot floppy. Win95/DOS 7.0 interferes with rawrite. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 22:23:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA01137 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line8.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01125 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00335; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:23:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Jim Dennis cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: text = 0xe3000 - -- and locks: Why? In-Reply-To: <199607190130.SAA00179@starshine> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ugh. This is ugly. Put on the long rubber gloves and dig in... On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Jim Dennis wrote: > Here's the situation: > > I have a 16Mb 386DX33 with a ULSI 387 Match-coprocessor, a > QuickPath Portfolio 550E I/O card (4serial, 2 IDE channels, > 4 floppy, 2 parallel, and a game port) one 220M WD IDE hard > drive, on 2.5G DEC SCSI hard drive, an Adaptec 1542C > SCSI host adapter, and an old Texel double speed CD-ROM > (and a 1Mb Tseng ET4000 SVGA card). OK so far. > First problem: > > Hangs after ze0 or zp0. Disable 'em from UserConfig (-c on the Boot: prompt). > > Solution: boot with the -c option, ls the configured > devices, disable npx0 > (also used visual and disabled all of the > other unecessary drivers). Your math copro must not be 387 compatible then. While you're at it, disable any other device you don't have. > So I could get booted and into the installation script. > Now I decided to install FreeBSD on the other 170Mb of the > IDE drive. It seemed like it would be easiest (I just > blew away the extended DOS partition that had been there). > > Second problem: > > Crashes, Panics, Hangs, and Reboots after fdisk/disklabel. Are you pressing rite? Don't; it's seriously broken. > Borrowed my old 2.1.0 CD set from my former employer > (McAfee Associates) -- I don't remember if I ever > turned it a receipt on it but they aren't concerned -- > their systems are stable and they know where to find > me if they need the CD's back. > > Still had to use the "disable npx0" configuration option. > Still can't install on the IDE drive. > Got the whole thing installed on the SCSI drive with > no error. Screwy. Your IDE controller must be interfereing somehow, maybe it has the same problem as the Promise's do? > I press F5 (other drive), > and F2 (second primary partition on the SCSI drive) > and type -c or "kernel.GENERIC -c" to attempt to > load the kernel from the hard drive (so I can tell > it to ignore my "not quite compatible" math co). > (I've also tried removing the math co physically > from the system). > > What I get now is a message like: > > sd(1,a)/kernel @ 0x100000 > text = 0xe3000 - > > (the "twirl-a-gig" spins for a second and tops right there). Sounds like a corrupted install. I'd try deleting the FreeBSD partition and start all over, and this time no rites. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 23:04:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA05763 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sag.space.lockheed.com (sag.space.lockheed.com [192.68.162.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA05756 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by sag.space.lockheed.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Nov95-0423PM) id AA17260; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:05:05 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:05:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian N. Handy" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: AucTeX Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hey Folks -- Are there any AucTeX/xemacs experts out there? I've been trying to get AucTeX working for me (in concert with teTeX) and I'm hopelessly jammed. It seems so simple to set up, and I'm not getting it right at all. As this isn't particularly a FreeBSD topic...should probably e-mail me directly. I'm just a desparate man in desparate times. Thanks! Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 23:09:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA06026 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA06016 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA29055; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:09:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek Received: (from ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA00537; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607190611.CAA00537@james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> X-Mailer: slnr v.2.13 as ported to FreeBSD To: WSNAdmin@aol.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In Email, WSNAdmin@aol.com wrote: > And learning is why I'm writing. I'll cut to the chase and I'm sorry for > bugging you. It's good to be a little hesitant before asking a question, but I think being "sorry" is a little bit of overkill... :) > I am installing from floppies (ok, so I'm taking the hard way) and I > installed the /bin and /man files, how would I later install the /src > binaries from a DOS floppy. I read something about the build is organized so Do you mean install the src distrib (from floppies) after having installed the rest (well, bin and man)? I _think_ that 2.1.0R will let you run /stand/sysinstall, choose "custom", select the distribs you want, and then choose the "extract-only" option. > from an NFS mount. I would hate to have to re-install again. It seems, by > reading the literature, that I can make or build the binaries....or are they > already compiled and all I have to do is install. Well...it depends...It's all precompiled, but, for example, if you want to customize your kernel (quite likely) you'll have to recompile it from. > great operating system. I'm sorry to have been a pest, I'll go out and try > to find one of the basic books listed in the faq. Don't be too sorry -- I suspect there are some people on this list who live to do nothing other than answer questions! ;) -- The one and only usenet god : Email god@heaven.com asdlfjalsdflkjasdlkfjasdkl;fjasdl;kjf my new signature! From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 18 23:10:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA06066 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA06032 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA29050; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:09:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek Received: (from ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA00530; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607190611.CAA00530@james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> X-Mailer: slnr v.2.13 as ported to FreeBSD cc: questions@freebsd.org To: falstaff@netcom.com Subject: Re: problem with installation Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In Email, falstaff@netcom.com (anthony m. vervoort) wrote: > When I try to boot from the floppy, the machine gets to the point where it > reads the floppy to load the OS, and it accesses the drive for about 3 seconds, > then all activity stops and the machine sits there. This sounds like the problem you get when you download the boot floppy in text mode. Make sure that you download everything in binary mode. Also, check the size of boot.flp on ftp.freebsd.org before you download it and then the size of boot.flp on your own computer after you download it. (Obviously, they should be the same). > Any suggestions for how to get around this problem? Yes; see above. -- The one and only usenet god : Email god@heaven.com asdlfjalsdflkjasdlkfjasdkl;fjasdl;kjf my new signature! From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 00:06:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA10314 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 00:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skeg.cst.com.au (skeg.cst.com.au [203.61.252.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA10307 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 00:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bala@localhost) by skeg.cst.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.11) id RAA02664 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:05:56 +1000 From: Bala Periasamy Message-Id: <199607190705.RAA02664@skeg.cst.com.au> Subject: Killing processes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:05:56 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How to kill processes in the "D" state. Sometime it just hangs in the system. Unless I reboot I can't get rid of the processes. thanx bala From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 00:44:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA12172 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 00:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bofh.noc.best.net (bofh.noc.best.net [205.149.163.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA12167; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 00:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rone@localhost) by bofh.noc.best.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA01260; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 00:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 00:44:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Echeverri Message-Id: <199607190744.AAA01260@bofh.noc.best.net> To: questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: rlogin/rsh stop working in 2.1.5 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk % rlogin shellx rcmd: socket: Protocol not available This did not happen when i was running 2.1-STABLE nor did it happen with 2.2-SNAP9606. What'd i do wrong? I don't know what could be causing this, so i'm not sure where to look to fix it. In the meantime, of course, i'm trying to figure out how to work with ssh (and also figure out why it refuses to start certain X clients from my .xinitrc now) and xauth... thanks rone From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 01:10:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA13239 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA13231 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA03988 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@FreeBSD.org); Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:10:22 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA00642; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:07:07 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607190807.BAA00642@starshine> Subject: Re: text = 0xe3000 - -- and locks: Why? To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jim@starshine.org, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jul 18, 96 10:23:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Ugh. This is ugly. Put on the long rubber gloves and dig in... > > On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Jim Dennis wrote: > > Here's the situation: > OK so far. > > First problem: > > Hangs after ze0 or zp0. > Disable 'em from UserConfig (-c on the Boot: prompt). done (as I said) > > Solution: boot with the -c option, ls the configured > > devices, disable npx0 > > (also used visual and disabled all of the > > other unecessary drivers). > > Your math copro must not be 387 compatible then. While you're at it, > disable any other device you don't have. I'm not worried about the mathco (or is it a "mothco" in this case). Although Linux seems to like it just fine -- math emulation isn't built into my kernel (something I found out when I temporarily removed it). > Are you pressing rite? Don't; it's seriously broken. Nope. I learned not to do that from the last time you told me it was broken (a couple of months ago -- on one of those Dell Dimension P133's). > Screwy. Your IDE controller must be interfereing somehow, maybe it has > the same problem as the Promise's do? The IDE has no BIOS extensions. No ROM's at all. It is just straight PC clone stuff. Also my no name paddleboard exhibited the same failure mode. > > Sounds like a corrupted install. I'd try deleting the FreeBSD partition > and start all over, and this time no rites. Alright. One more time into the breach my friends. I was really hoping I could salvage this by copying in a different kernel and getting that to boot but we'll see. I suppose I wouldn't be so frustrated -- except that it boots fine from floppy and it works so well from in Linux. (I'm getting really irritated with my local friends who's answer is "get a newer machine" -- I have several newer machines -- but the 386 is still a fine workhorse and I don't see any reason to throw it away over this). I still use my XT's for some tasks (I'm about to install a voice mail board in one of them in fact). One of them (Hugh Daniels -- uses FreeBSD on any clone he comes across and NetBSD on his SPARC's) suggested that it might be something that the kernel is tripping over in memory. I was thinking of some sort of DMA channel conflict. It's really got me going. Jim Dennis, Starshine Technical Services From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 01:20:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA13699 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (terra.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA13661 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl (uucp@localhost) by terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.7.5) with UUCP id KAA25032; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:19:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.7.5/8.6.12) id KAA01181; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:18:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: FreeBSD matters of Mark Huizer (xaa) Message-Id: <199607190818.KAA01181@xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl> Subject: Re: JDK 1.0.2 available for FreeBSD? To: miker@cs.utexas.edu (Hung Michael Nguyen) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:18:14 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607190419.XAA24270@oink.cs.utexas.edu> from Hung Michael Nguyen at "Jul 18, 96 11:19:57 pm" Reply-To: xaa@stack.urc.tue.nl (Mark Huizer) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I would like to learn Java, however, I don't want to boot WinNT. > There are two things you can do, both mostly easily to be found in the ports tree. 1. kaffe (ftp://ftp.sarc.city.ac.uk:/pub/kaffe) is in /usr/ports/www/kaffe and is a project to create a java emulator and just-in-time-compiler that currently supports almost everything except for the graphical classes (but it does compile them, so for applets it's OK) 2. use netscape: you install the JDK (a.o. the classes.zip file, see /usr/ports/www/jdk) set CLASSPATH, and use to compile: netscape -java sun.tools.javac.Main class2compile.java to run: netscape -java class2run Greetings, Mark Huizer From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 01:34:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA14679 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA14674 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA05254 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:34:39 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA00665; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:10:53 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607190810.BAA00665@starshine> Subject: Re: job To: dyeske@pigseye.kennesaw.edu (David Paul Yeske) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, support@cdrom.com In-Reply-To: from "David Paul Yeske" at Jul 18, 96 11:12:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > any job openings at walnut creek? > David I'd look at their web pages (they have some listed there). You might also try jobs@cdrom.com or info@cdrom.com which might get routed to an infobot. Jim Dennis, Starshine Technical Services From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 01:37:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA14912 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA14903 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA00269 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 03:37:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 03:37:51 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Need some help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I made the mistake of move my /usr directory to a different drive and then making a symbolic link to the new location. It seems when I did so, either some file permissions got screwed up or something. Anyway, after rebooting, my named, routed, sendmail...almost all of my daemons weren't working right. I've got the system back up for the time being, but its not where it should be. Is there any way of restoring the default permissions of my /usr directory without going through a clean install or upgrade again? Many thanks! Mike ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 02:29:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA17150 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sirius.tadpole.co.uk (sirius.tadpole.co.uk [192.52.161.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA17141 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sirius.tadpole.co.uk (8.7/PIPEX simple 1.19) id KAA05020; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:27:45 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:27:45 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199607190927.KAA05020@sirius.tadpole.co.uk> From: Tim Steele To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Doug White on Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:59:16 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Great stuff so far Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I still don't know how you managed to cram so much onto the install floppy! > > It's a secret. :-) Well, it's damn clever, and (IMHO) a USP compared with all the other Unixes for the PC out there. (Why do there have to be so many? I guess purely in terms of number of machines Linux is winning, which is a pity as I prefer Berkeley.) > Did you reconfigure the system to use the proper parameters for your > ethernet card? Do you have the rebuilt RELEASE floppy? (I see you're on a > 3com card...) a) no, how would I do that? (This is an install from scratch) b) Rebuilt? It's the one from 2.1.5-RELEASE/floppies. Okay, I'm confused. 8-) Here's a further piece of data; with patience, I now get as far as Extracting bin into / directory... 1% 13140 bytes read from bin dist, chunk 1 of 69 @ 1.0 KB/sec. where it sticks. I've tried several times with different download sites but (suspiciously) it always sticks at 13140. I've also used etherfind to see what's going on... after it's stuck, you see the occasional ftp-data packet from the download site to the PC, but that's it. Any ideas? Regards Tim From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 03:44:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA19230 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 03:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sirius.tadpole.co.uk (sirius.tadpole.co.uk [192.52.161.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA19225 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 03:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sirius.tadpole.co.uk (8.7/PIPEX simple 1.19) id LAA12891; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:43:26 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:43:26 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199607191043.LAA12891@sirius.tadpole.co.uk> From: Tim Steele To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607190927.KAA05020@sirius.tadpole.co.uk> (message from Tim Steele on Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:27:45 +0100 (BST)) Subject: Re: Great stuff so far Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Update: If I make a local copy of the distribution and ftp from that, it seems to load OK (if slowly). I suspect there may be some problems with the ftp code over slower links? Is there a guide anywhere to what you should download to make a source you can install from? There is a *lot* of stuff on your server, and I can't believe that you need everything under 2.1.5-RELEASE. Thanks Tim From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 03:50:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA19366 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 03:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sirius.tadpole.co.uk (sirius.tadpole.co.uk [192.52.161.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA19361 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 03:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sirius.tadpole.co.uk (8.7/PIPEX simple 1.19) id LAA13514; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:49:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:49:02 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199607191049.LAA13514@sirius.tadpole.co.uk> From: Tim Steele To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607190927.KAA05020@sirius.tadpole.co.uk> (message from Tim Steele on Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:27:45 +0100 (BST)) Subject: Re: Great stuff so far Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Second update: even when loading from a local server (idle SPARCstation LX on the same 10baseT hub) I only get 1.3KB/sec!! This is bad, yes? Regards Tim From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 03:53:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA19441 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 03:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saba.kuentos.guam.net (root@saba.kuentos.guam.net [198.81.233.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA19436 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 03:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by saba.kuentos.guam.net (Smail3.1.29.1 #9) id m0uhDBt-002EvMC; Fri, 19 Jul 96 20:53 GST Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:53:49 +1000 (GST) From: Meltedice To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Installing x11 ports Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Whenever I try to install any x11 ports from and IDE CD-ROM I have not been successful. I get an error saying that xmkmf could not be found. I have mounted the CD-ROM, and run "make install" and "make" in the desired ports directory as root. I know that xmkmf is installed in /usr/X11R6/bin. What do I need to hack so that xmkmf is found and utilized? Bill Shaw =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= =* Bill Shaw *= =* Kuentos Communications Inc. Guam USA *= =* Tech Support *= =* meltedice@kuentos.guam.net *= =* http://www.guam.net/home/bhshaw2 *= =* IFORMS Chat Run On BSDI *= =* telnet buri.kuentos.guam.net 3000 *= =* *= =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 04:17:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA20534 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 04:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (root@tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.81]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA20529 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 04:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpzenger2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de ([131.159.8.42]) by tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de with ESMTP id <26527-1>; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 13:16:37 +0200 Received: from unknown by hpzenger2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de id <239704>; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 13:16:04 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 13:15:52 +0200 (MESZ) From: Reinhold Josef Huber To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with floppy drives Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all! I have the following problem accessing my 3.5" floppy drive: Reading works perfectly with mtools and if the floppy is mounted. Dut if I try to write to floppy with mtools or by writing on the mounted diskette, I get the message: /dev/fd0 device timeout I get the same message when trying to unmount the floppy, I guess umount tries to write some buffers. My system is FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE, installed from floppies downloaded from a mirror site (ftp.leo.org, at my university). I need this floppy drive, because it is the only "internet connection" of my machine now. Greetings, Reinhold Huber From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 04:20:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA20656 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 04:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from charon.siemens.be (charon.siemens.be [193.210.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA20618 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 04:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by charon.siemens.be (8.7.4/nsafe-1.3) id ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:18:43 GMT Received: from atea.atea.be(193.210.197.11) by charon via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma023456; Fri Jul 19 13:18:31 1996 Received: from atdec1 by atea with SMTP (1.37.109.4/15.6-FW) id AA14512; Fri, 19 Jul 96 13:17:52 +0200 Received: from vnet by atdec1.atea.be (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA10758; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 13:18:43 +0200 Received: by vnet.atea.be; Fri, 19 Jul 96 13:18:52 +0200 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 13:17:32 WET Message-Id: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: (Rob Schofield) Subject: Kernel questions X-Incognito-Sn: 319 X-Incognito-Format: VERSION=2.01a ENCRYPTED=NO Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there - can anyone tell me which conference I should be using to ask Kernel/config questions re. multiple CD-ROM drives? Thanks Rob Schofield -- Happiness is a smoking processor....... Rob Schofield M.Sc. AMIEE schofiel@xs4all.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~schofiel From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 04:26:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA20889 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 04:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sirius.tadpole.co.uk (sirius.tadpole.co.uk [192.52.161.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA20883 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 04:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sirius.tadpole.co.uk (8.7/PIPEX simple 1.19) id MAA17105; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:24:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:24:54 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199607191124.MAA17105@sirius.tadpole.co.uk> From: Tim Steele To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Doug White on Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:59:16 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Great stuff so far Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Perhaps I should explain what I'm up to. I work for Tadpole; as you can see (http://www.tadpole.com/Support/online/) we install-support Linux but not FreeBSD. I'm hoping to change that by getting FreeBSD running on our machine and writing up the instructions for the Web site. Maybe we should build a new install floppy which supports PCMCIA Ethernet (if that's possible?) as at the moment I'm using a regular 3Com EtherLink III card plugged into a development-only bus expander which our customers won't have access to! Regards Tim From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 05:03:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA22109 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 05:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA22104 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 05:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA29778 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:05:02 GMT Received: from buffnet7.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa24211; 19 Jul 96 8:06 EDT Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:06:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Hovey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: tacacs & radius Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk has anyone got any experience using tacacs and/or radius under freebsd? Anything of note to know if one wants to do this? Im particularly interested in hearing experiences with ascend products flavor - Im looking and them for term servers etc and the docs say they use radius. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 05:15:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA22550 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 05:15:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-19.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.119]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA22535 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 05:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA12042; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:14:20 -0400 Message-Id: <199607191214.IAA12042@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol From: Branson Matheson To: James Raynard cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, roeya@iol.co.il, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Video Display Cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:07:53 GMT." <199607182107.VAA09511@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:14:19 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- James Raynard uttered with conviction: > Doug White > > On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Roey Almog wrote: >> > 2. Another importent aspect to software devlopers is a daul monitor > support currently I use MDA monitor to run a d ebugger and to send > debug massages to, and the S_VGA monitor is fr ee for the tested > application. Is these will be possible on the FreeBSD o/s ? >> > I don't know if FreeBSD itself supports multiheaded displays. XFree > might. I can't say I've tried it. I have ... you need to use the Monochrome driver... this is kinda a bummer for the vga side.. but it works well.. look at the Xmono manpage. -branson PS> I once asked if it could go multiheaded on a PCI bus... I was told that the possiblity existed but that no-one had tried it.. has anyone done that? ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 05:20:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA22853 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 05:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bbs.mpcs.com (root@bbs.mpcs.com [204.215.226.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA22848 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 05:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.mpcs.com (news1.mpcs.com [204.215.226.8]) by bbs.mpcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/MPCS) with ESMTP id IAA15944 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:20:27 -0400 Received: (from news@localhost) by news1.mpcs.com (8.7.3/8.7.3/MPCS) id IAA10381; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:20:25 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: hgoldste From: hgoldste@mpcs.com (Howard Goldstein) Newsgroups: muc.lists.freebsd.questions Subject: recovering from failed update 2.1-stable->2.1.5R Date: 19 Jul 1996 12:20:25 GMT Organization: disorganization Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com NNTP-Posting-Host: bbs.mpcs.com X-Newsreader: slrn (0.8.5) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to a flaky dialup slip line when I woke up this morning instead of finding 70mb of a 'developer' install waiting for me i found the install screen stuck halfway through the 'extract bin into /' progress indicator. The floppy boot kernel was still responsive; I waited 15 minutes after restoring the slip line but gave up after it looked like it wouldn't try to resume the FTP from ftp6 for the balance of the install. Easy questions in two categories: 1. Should I have waited longer? The slip link was down for a good 4 hours. Would it have recovered and resumed from where it left off if I had? [could i have forced a resume before rebooting?] 2. I'm now just grabbing the minimal installation to get at least something back on the air. ONce I get it going (note optimism that it will get going!) what is the best way to upgrade the balance of the install to 2.1.5R, being the source docs and devel tools? Can I use sup on the remaining distributions or if I have to do the sysinstall thing again, can I run it from the live, booted system or do I have to boot from the floppy ? Please copy any reply to me at the reply-to address. I know, I detest folks who do this but of course our entire newsfeed from a large northwestern university went down last night as if knowing I would be asking for some guidance (I read freebsd-questions as a munich newsgroup). Thanks in advance h Florida's Space Coast FreeBSD evangelist -- Howard Goldstein From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 05:36:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA23451 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 05:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA23446 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 05:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA14141; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 05:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607191236.FAA14141@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Tim Steele cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Great stuff so far In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:49:02 BST." <199607191049.LAA13514@sirius.tadpole.co.uk> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 05:36:11 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Second update: even when loading from a local server (idle >SPARCstation LX on the same 10baseT hub) I only get 1.3KB/sec!! > >This is bad, yes? Yes, it's bad. This almost certainly points to an interrupt problem. When interrupts aren't working, the 3c509 driver has a one second timer that will still allow data to trickle in slowly. Make sure that the kernel and your card agree on the interrupt and that there are no other cards in the system that may be conflicting with it. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 06:06:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA24909 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA24896 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id PAA27989; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:06:42 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (PAA00367); Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:07:30 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199607191507.PAA00367@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: new features in 2.1.5 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:07:29 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! What are the new features of 2.1.5? Are there ibcs ELF-loader? linux ELF-loader? bsdi 2.x loader? And another one: i've heard so much about devfs. What's that? -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 06:06:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA24925 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA24900 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id PAA27977; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:06:37 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (OAA00410); Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:43:17 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199607181443.OAA00410@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: CRYPT & Restricted Shell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:43:17 +0000 (GMT) Cc: 74361.2505@compuserve.com In-Reply-To: <960716201448_74361.2505_HHG78-1@CompuServe.COM> from "John F. Diggan" at Jul 16, 96 04:14:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > RESTRICTED Shell-Where can I obtain a restricted shell for FreeBSD_2.1. A shell > that supports "sh -r " or a "rsh" similar to Solaris. This type shell will not > allow "cd" and many other commands. I don't know about the normal sh, but pdksh (from the ports, or from ftp.cs.mun.ca/pub/pdksh) has this feature. -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 06:26:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA25884 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sirius.tadpole.co.uk (sirius.tadpole.co.uk [192.52.161.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA25879 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sirius.tadpole.co.uk (8.7/PIPEX simple 1.19) id OAA29058; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:25:08 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:25:08 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199607191325.OAA29058@sirius.tadpole.co.uk> From: Tim Steele To: davidg@root.com CC: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607191236.FAA14141@root.com> (message from David Greenman on Fri, 19 Jul 1996 05:36:11 -0700) Subject: Re: Great stuff so far Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >Second update: even when loading from a local server (idle > >SPARCstation LX on the same 10baseT hub) I only get 1.3KB/sec!! > > > >This is bad, yes? > > Yes, it's bad. This almost certainly points to an interrupt problem. When > interrupts aren't working, the 3c509 driver has a one second timer that will > still allow data to trickle in slowly. Make sure that the kernel and your card > agree on the interrupt and that there are no other cards in the system that > may be conflicting with it. That could be it. The card doesn't have any jumpers on it so it's a bit difficult to see what could need configuring. It's a 3Com EtherLink III 3C509B. I'll have a rootle around to see if I can find a floppy in case it's one of those irritating cards which need to be soft configured ... ?? 8-) As far as reconfiguring the kernel is concerned, as this is my first install I don't have a running BSD system to compare it with, so I guess I can't do that. Any chance of supporting the 3C589 in a future release? or can I do this myself by constructing a new install disk (once I've got it working)? Thanks Tim From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 06:45:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA26503 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (root@ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA26497 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-7.ime.net [206.231.148.136]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA20928; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31EF9156.35C7@ime.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:44:54 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: " (Rob Schofield)" CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (Rob Schofield) wrote: > > Hi there - can anyone tell me which conference I should be using to ask > Kernel/config questions re. multiple CD-ROM drives? > > Thanks > Right here on -questions is a good place to start. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 06:47:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA26568 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars.ColState.EDU (mars.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA26559 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (mercury.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.32]) by mars.ColState.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00294 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CCMAIN/SpoolDir by mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Mercury 1.21); 19 Jul 96 09:50:35 EST Received: from SpoolDir by CCMAIN (Mercury 1.30); 19 Jul 96 09:50:19 EST From: "Christian" Organization: Columbus State Univ., Columbus, Ga. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:50:19 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: wide-dhcp problems, can someone help? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <12E94511D6B@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I trying to install the wide-dhcp server from the 2.1.5-packages and I can't seem to get it to work. I would like to use the server to serve up both bootp and dhcp clients, all with statically assigned addresses. I did what the man pages and the installation instructions said but it is not working. When a windows machine tries to get its address from the server I get an error message that says something about no more addresses available in the pool. I find this strange because I am assigning addresses statically and that particular machine should always have the same address available. Can somebody help me? On a somewhat related note, I also would like the freeBSD machine that is serving as the dhcp/bootp server to be on multiple networks and I thought I could accomplish this by adding the following lines to /etc/rc.local: ifconfig ed0 alias 168.26.195.19 netmask 255.255.255.255 ifconfig ed0 alias 168.26.197.19 netmask 255.255.255.255 ifconfig ed0 alias 168.26.198.19 netmask 255.255.255.255 ifconfig ed0 alias 168.26.199.19 netmask 255.255.255.255 The machines main address is 168.26.193.19. When I do the above I get messages on other freeBSD machines that say something like: /kernel arplookup 168.26.199.19 failed: host is not on local network Are these messages harmless? I can ping 168.26.199.19 and telnet into it. Would this have anything to do with my dhcp problems? Thanks, C.P. ____________ Christian Plazas Columbus College, Columbus,GA 706.568.2063 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 06:48:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA26634 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA26628 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ah12924; 19 Jul 96 13:00 +0100 Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk ([158.152.156.24]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa14307; 19 Jul 96 12:40 +0100 From: Michael Searle Message-ID: To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: NCR controller problem? Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:33:42 BST X-Mailer: Offlite 0.09 / Termite Internet for Acorn RISC OS Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have just had a problem with my disk controller, where instead of the usual message (My usual dmesg is at the end of this post) I got this: (ncr:6:0) COMMAND FAILED (6 2) @ f066f948 ncr0: aborting job... ncr0:0 ERROR(90:0) (0-a3-0) (0-13) @ (418:43000060) script cmd = 87860000 reg: da 00 00 13 47 00 06 1f 31 00 00 a3 90 01 0b 02 ncr0: restart (fatal error) then a pause for about a minute, then (ncr0:6:0): COMMAND FAILED (9 ff) @ f066f948 and all the other errors repeated. I rebooted, and it was OK. I have successfully rebooted 3 times since, with no other errors. Does/could this mean that there is something wrong with my controller/drive? (I guess my drive is OK, as it hadn't got as far as detecting it.) The only other problems I have had with this machine are with floppies (They are slow, occasionally use a lot of CPU, produce errors like 'input ready timeout' and 'hard error at fsbn xxxx' (while reading and writing successfully) and at least twice caused panics - but this may be the msdosfs, not the floppy.) FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #1: Fri May 31 18:02:07 BST 1996 searle@longacre.demon.co.uk:/home/searle/C/src/sys/compile/HAL9000 CPU: 166-MHz Pentium 735\\90 or 815\\100 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) avail memory = 15167488 (14812K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in sb0 at 0x220 irq 7 drq 1 on isa sb0: sbxvi0 at 0x220 irq 7 drq 5 on isa sbxvo0: npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Probing for devices on the PCI bus: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 vga0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:11 ncr0 rev 2 int a irq 11 on pci0:12 ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ncr0:0:0): "FUJITSU M1606S-512 6234" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ncr0:0:0): Direct-Access sd0(ncr0:0:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. 1041MB (2131992 512 byte sectors) (ncr0:6:0): "SONY CD-ROM CDU-55S 1.0t" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ncr0:6:0): CD-ROM cd0(ncr0:6:0): 250ns (4 Mb/sec) offset 8. cd present.[325252 x 2048 byte records] -- Michael Searle - searle@longacre.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 06:49:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA26660 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay5.jaring.my (root@relay5.jaring.my [192.228.128.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA26625 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from j8.jrc4.jaring.my (j8.jrc4.jaring.my [161.142.112.22]) by relay5.jaring.my (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA29046 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:45:48 +0800 Received: by j8.jrc4.jaring.my with Microsoft Mail id <01BB75C4.B5D69780@j8.jrc4.jaring.my>; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:50:40 +0800 Message-ID: <01BB75C4.B5D69780@j8.jrc4.jaring.my> From: "k.k phang" To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: D-Link DN220 support ? Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:50:20 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I did search for the mailing list but can't find anything about this card, can anyone give me some clues. Thanks in advance. Cheers, ~phang From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 07:12:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA27355 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (root@ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27350 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-7.ime.net [206.231.148.136]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA22895 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31EF97E1.1707@ime.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:12:49 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: 2.1.5-Release CD's. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Not being pushy, Just curious, When does the 2.1.5-r cd get burned and how long (about) does it take for _shipment_ to subscribers?? (And since many seem to miss understand my writings I'll say it again) No, I'm not pushing! Just curious! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 07:18:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA27610 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nsco.network.com (nsco.network.com [129.191.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA27605 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anubis.network.com by nsco.network.com (4.1/1.34) id AA02963; Fri, 19 Jul 96 09:23:33 CDT Received: from habanero.network.com by anubis.network.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29883; Fri, 19 Jul 96 09:20:38 CDT From: snapkwl@anubis.network.com (William L. Snapko) Message-Id: <9607191420.AA29883@anubis.network.com> Subject: Supported Configurations To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:20:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To Whom It May Concern, In considering the FreeBSD product for my use, I ran across the section in the 2.1.5R release notes that talks about supported configurations. The statement is made you support PCs "ranging from 386sx to Pentium Pro class machines" but the statement is made "(though the 386sx is not recommended)." Why is the 386sx not on the recommended list? Is there a more complete list of supported machines? If so, where could I look at it? Thank you for your attention to this matter. Have a good day. William Snapko bill.snapko@network.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 07:19:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA27681 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27672 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id QAA29480; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:19:42 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (PAA00834); Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:43:00 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199607191543.PAA00834@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Intel Pentium vs AMD/Cyrix/NexGen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:42:59 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "Ken Marsh" at Jul 18, 96 05:19:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Well, I am running FreeBSD ver. 2.0.5 on my AMD DX4-120 (Enhanced version) > without any processor related trouble. Note: I couldn't even boot LINUX, > but I don't know if that is a processor thing or not... Hm, my FBSD machine at work is a Texas 486, my home machine is an AMD 486, but I'm interested in the Pentium class processors. > Maybe you haven't heard... NexGen was bought out by AMD(?) and is > discontinued. Thanx, I didn't hear it. And another question: does ULSI/Texas, I don't know who has any other Pentium class processor? > > I would like to know more pros/cons about these type of processors. > > So many people said something about Cyrix, but nothing about the other clones. > > So? Are there any known differences? What about a multiprocessor machine > > with these clone processors? -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 07:19:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA27688 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27671 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id QAA29475; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:19:41 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (PAA00801); Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:38:45 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199607191538.PAA00801@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Installing x11 ports To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:38:44 +0000 (GMT) Cc: meltedice@kuentos.guam.net In-Reply-To: from "Meltedice" at Jul 19, 96 08:53:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Whenever I try to install any x11 ports from and IDE CD-ROM I have not > been successful. I get an error saying that xmkmf could not be found. I > have mounted the CD-ROM, and run "make install" and "make" in the desired > ports directory as root. I know that xmkmf is installed in /usr/X11R6/bin. What > do I need to hack so that xmkmf is found and utilized? Is /usr/X11R6/bin in your PATH? (I've found that root hasn't in my machine.) sh/ksh/bash: PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin ; export PATH csh/tcsh: set path = ( $path /usr/X11R6/bin ) -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 07:19:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA27726 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27712 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id QAA29493; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:19:45 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (QAA01090); Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:20:21 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199607191620.QAA01090@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Killing processes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:20:21 +0000 (GMT) Cc: bala@cst.com.au In-Reply-To: <199607190705.RAA02664@skeg.cst.com.au> from "Bala Periasamy" at Jul 19, 96 05:05:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > How to kill processes in the "D" state. As I know, you cannot. You can send them a signal, but until they go to another running state, they cannot get it. (As ``uninterruptible'' means.) -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 07:20:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA27802 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27733 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id QAA29484; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:19:43 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (PAA00891); Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:50:43 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199607191550.PAA00891@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Need some help To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:50:42 +0000 (GMT) Cc: flaq@synwork.com In-Reply-To: from "Mike K." at Jul 19, 96 03:37:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I made the mistake of move my /usr directory to a different drive and then > making a symbolic link to the new location. It seems when I did so, > either some file permissions got screwed up or something. Anyway, after > rebooting, my named, routed, sendmail...almost all of my daemons weren't > working right. I've got the system back up for the time being, but its > not where it should be. Is there any way of restoring the default > permissions of my /usr directory without going through a clean install or > upgrade again? Many thanks! On my stock 2.1R: $ ls -ld /usr drwxr-wr-x 15 root wheel /usr , so $ chown root:wheel /usr; chmod 755 /usr -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 07:32:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA28782 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:32:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigstar.eecs.nwu.edu (bigstar.eecs.nwu.edu [129.105.5.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA28767 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mack23@localhost) by bigstar.eecs.nwu.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) id JAA02564 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:31:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Walsh Message-Id: <199607191431.JAA02564@bigstar.eecs.nwu.edu> Subject: 3c589, 2.1.0-RELEASE, ThinkPad 701, zp driver To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:31:49 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ I originally posted this to comp.[...].freebsd.misc. Zero replies. If anyone can provide a clue injection, I'd appreciate it. Thanks very much! ] I *know* that this is going to turn out to be due to something I stupidly did not do, but I've checked the FAQs, pummeled LYCOS, and still made no progress. Here's the situation. I have a TP701CS, and a 3com 3c589C combo (10BaseT and BNC) PCMCIA card. I have only FreeBSD on my laptop, but using a friend's laptop I configured the card like so: IRQ 10, port 0x300, card services off, use BNC connector. Then I modified the GENERIC kernel config file by commenting out the de0,ed0,ed1,le0,ep0,ix0,ie0,lnc0,lnc1, and ze0 drivers, and putting in "zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr", as found in the LINT kernel config file. The "ether" pseudo-device and the INET option are, as you'd expect, compiled into the kernel. In addition, no other devices in the kernel config file use IRQ 10, or port 0x300. The kernel compiles fine, and when I boot from it, I see the following: zp: found card in slot 0 zp0: not found at 0x300 I'm afraid I have no idea why the driver is not found. Can anyone suggest how I can remedy this? E-mail or post -- I'll gladly summarize if warranted. Thanks. PS: if this is discussed in a FAQ, point me at it since my previous searches somehow missed it. -- Chris Walsh finger mack23@ece.nwu.edu ECE Dept., Northwestern Univ. for PGP 2.6.2 public key Evanston, IL http://web.ece.nwu.edu/~mack23/ -- Chris Walsh finger mack23@ece.nwu.edu ECE Dept., Northwestern Univ. for PGP 2.6.2 public key Evanston, IL http://web.ece.nwu.edu/~mack23/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 07:38:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA29212 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saba.kuentos.guam.net (root@saba.kuentos.guam.net [198.81.233.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA29206 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by saba.kuentos.guam.net (Smail3.1.29.1 #9) id m0uhGhC-002F3OC; Sat, 20 Jul 96 00:38 GST Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:38:22 +1000 (GST) From: Meltedice To: Gabor Zahemszky cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Installing x11 ports In-Reply-To: <199607191538.PAA00801@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was kinda hoping for a file with an absolute pathname, but have added it to my PATH. Is there anything with an absolute pathname? Bill =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= =* Bill Shaw *= =* Kuentos Communications Inc. Guam USA *= =* *= =* meltedice@kuentos.guam.net *= =* http://www.guam.net/home/bhshaw2 *= =* IFORMS Chat Run On BSDI *= =* telnet buri.kuentos.guam.net 3000 *= =* *= =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Gabor Zahemszky wrote: > > > > > > Whenever I try to install any x11 ports from and IDE CD-ROM I have not > > been successful. I get an error saying that xmkmf could not be found. I > > have mounted the CD-ROM, and run "make install" and "make" in the desired > > ports directory as root. I know that xmkmf is installed in /usr/X11R6/bin. What > > do I need to hack so that xmkmf is found and utilized? > > Is /usr/X11R6/bin in your PATH? (I've found that root hasn't in my machine.) > sh/ksh/bash: > PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin ; export PATH > > csh/tcsh: > set path = ( $path /usr/X11R6/bin ) > > -- > Gabor Zahemszky > > -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- > Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. > Tsiolkovsky > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 07:41:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA29392 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grapenuts.bellcore.com (grapenuts.bellcore.com [192.4.4.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA29385 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grapenuts.bellcore.com (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA25540; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:41:05 -0400 Message-Id: <199607191441.KAA25540@grapenuts.bellcore.com> X-Authentication-Warning: grapenuts.bellcore.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol In-reply-to: Scott Knaffla's message of Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:42:50 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org From: Andrew Heybey To: Scott Knaffla Subject: Re: 2.1.5 install failed with EISA Buslogic BT747S References: <199607181342.IAA23477@allmalt.cs.uwm.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:41:02 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Boot with the -c option and disable the adaptec drivers before proceeding. Worked for me. andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 08:00:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA00598 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00591 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA24748; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:59:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199607191459.KAA24748@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: tacacs & radius To: shovey@buffnet.net (Stephen Hovey) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Stephen Hovey" at Jul 19, 96 08:06:49 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > has anyone got any experience using tacacs and/or radius under freebsd? > Anything of note to know if one wants to do this? > > Im particularly interested in hearing experiences with ascend products > flavor - Im looking and them for term servers etc and the docs say they > use radius. I tried radius here - we were playing with Ascends. The version I got from Ascend ftp site compiled and worked OK as far as I remember. I'm not sure whether or not I modified the sources in any way to get them to compile. Rashid. > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 08:21:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA01922 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guardian.guard.ncsc.mil (guardian.guard.ncsc.mil [144.51.52.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA01913 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by guardian.guard.ncsc.mil (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA23101; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:20:28 -0400 Received: from depot(144.51.53.1) by guardian via smap (V1.3) id sma023096; Fri Jul 19 11:20:13 1996 Received: from smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil (smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil [144.51.54.211]) by depot.missi.ncsc.mil (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA20955; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:16:47 -0400 Received: by smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil with Microsoft Mail id <31EFD1FA@smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil>; Fri, 19 Jul 96 11:20:42 PDT From: "Paisley, Todd G." To: Doug White , "Paisley, Todd G." Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: 3com 3C590 PCI ethernet card Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 11:18:00 PDT Message-ID: <31EFD1FA@smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil> Encoding: 42 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I must have VIRTUAL plug & play then. It never found the ethernet card. We upgraded the video and SCSI card to PCI as well and during the boot up, it finds these cards just fine, but not the 3Com card. Todd. ---------- From: Doug White To: Paisley, Todd G. Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: 3com 3C590 PCI ethernet card Date: Thursday, July 18, 1996 9:05PM Return-Path: Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:05:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Paisley, Todd G." cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: 3com 3C590 PCI ethernet card In-Reply-To: <31EEC57F@smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Paisley, Todd G. wrote: > > Ooops! My fingers weren't working right. I meant 3Com 3C590 PCI ethernet > card, not a 3C509 ISA card. I don't know how to set up a PCI card with > Unix. Heh. That is much easier: just plug it in. The PCI bus implements REAL plug & play. It'll be found and configured on startup. If you need to make IRQ changes, you do that through BIOS setup. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 08:21:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA01936 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.mke.ab.com (ns3.mke.ab.com [130.151.86.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA01910 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com ([130.151.17.154]) by ns3.mke.ab.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05669; Fri, 19 Jul 96 10:21:31 CDT Received: from pegasus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (pegasus.ven.ra.rockwell.com [130.151.17.156]) by zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA02685 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:20:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:20:28 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960719112832.3e671e4c@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Organization: Rockwell Automation de Venezuela X-Sender: eparis@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Eloy A. Paris" Subject: Script run at shutdown? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Is there any way to run a script at shutdown, like after invoking the commands shutdown, reboot or halt? In Linux you can do so in the script rc.0 which takes care of unmounting file systems and maintenance stuff like that. I need this because the very last thing I want to do after the system is ready to die is to tell my UPS to kill power to preserve batteries. Thanks in advance. E-loy.- -- Eloy A. Paris Global Technical Services Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9430323 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 08:46:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA03948 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (root@ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03941 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-7.ime.net [206.231.148.136]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA28964 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31EFADF9.7E3E@ime.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:47:05 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Scanning for Interfaces! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hiya all. I'm working on hacking up a Linux IPX program, LinWare (lwared-0.95) I've got it compiling, It runs, It dosn't work! :( No connection to the interface yet. The problem: Several. :( In hopes of: Help! Reason : It's over my head. :( And would like very much to change this! Only way is to dive in! I have, I need some assitance. System 2.1.0-R, fbsd-ipx patch. (2.1.5 when I get the CD) Problem one: socket(AF_IPX, SOCK_xxxx, PF_IPX) Fails with: Protocol not supported! (xxxx = DGRAM or others) So I look elsewhere for uses of 'socket', I of course found many and noticed that few use the third param. (protocol) Is there something else thats missing?? My fix was: (Right or wrong, I don't know) socket(AF_IPX, SOCK_xxxx, 0) This got me past this prob! Did it lead me to the following! Problem two: Scanning for interfaces fails! It seems the index of the interface structures/tables is off, It lists the first one sorta right, And the rest keep getting further and further off. (The first one works except for the address translation, I can fix) I have compared the structures they match pretty close! I see nothing that should cause this! the sizes are all determind via sizeof() anyways. Is there a function someplace that is a prime example of scanning for interfaces! I have looked through, IPXrouted, netstat, various if_?? files. They are all specfic. I would post the apporaite functions but they are a bit large! Would prefer sending in private, versus the list. IPXrouted seems to run fine although I don't know how to test/use it! (Or really what it would be used for??) My net HW setup is: ed0: Generic NE2000 ifconfig_ed0="inet a.b.c.d netmask 0xffffff00 ed1: Novell NE1000 (810- or 950- model, forget) ifconfig_ed1="ipx 0x14239" Cabling: Thinnet. Netware 3.11 IPX,TCP/IP ipx internal net: 6345403-----FBSD_ed0-| FBSD_ed1-|---various_others! Any ideas? BTW: I added two things to sockaddr_ipx in sys/netipx/ipx.h struct sockaddr_ipx { u_char sipx_len; u_char sipx_family; struct ipx_addr sipx_addr; char sipx_zero[2]; u_char sipx_type; /* tcg */ u_long sipx_network; /* tcg */ }; What would be the apporaite change?? (Tall order :) I'm sure sipx_network could be changed in my hack to fit the sipx_addr structs if I knew what the comparable was. Yes, I have lots to learn, I'm not afraid to! But I need some guidence. Thanks. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 08:53:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04394 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04389 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA13575; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:52:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:52:53 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607191552.AA13575@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: tcg@ime.net Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Scanning for Interfaces! In-Reply-To: <31EFADF9.7E3E@ime.net> References: <31EFADF9.7E3E@ime.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Problem one: > socket(AF_IPX, SOCK_xxxx, PF_IPX) > Fails with: Protocol not supported! (xxxx = DGRAM or others) > So I look elsewhere for uses of 'socket', I of course found many > and noticed that few use the third param. (protocol) > Is there something else thats missing?? > My fix was: (Right or wrong, I don't know) > socket(AF_IPX, SOCK_xxxx, 0) Almost. It should be: socket(PF_IPX, SOCK_whatever, protocol_or_zero); where protocol_or_zero could be either zero (use the default), or a specification of a particular protocol (like IPXPROTO_SPX). Most of the time there is no reason to specify the protocol, but it is necessary if you are using SOCK_RAW sockets. > Scanning for interfaces fails! It seems the index of the interface > structures/tables is off, It lists the first one sorta right, And > the rest keep getting further and further off. > (The first one works except for the address translation, I can fix) > I have compared the structures they match pretty close! I see nothing > that should cause this! the sizes are all determind via sizeof() > anyways. No, this sizes are /not/ determined by the sizeof operator, that is your problem. The sizes are determined by the sa_len element of the sockaddr structure. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 09:18:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA05709 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.nation-net.com (www.nation-net.com [194.159.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05704 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mag.nation-net.com (194.159.125.14) by www.nation-net.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:19:53 +0000 Message-ID: <31EFB4F3.3061@nation-net.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:16:51 +0100 From: Paul Walsh X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: compiling SSL - falling at the last fence Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm stuck. The Makefile gets as far as compiling destest.o into destest but bombs with lots of undefined symbols in text segment of destest.o . Could this be because I've added DES to an originally md5 freeBSD? Anybody? -- paul@nation-net.com Walsh Simmons 0161-839 9337 Manchester, UK From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 09:21:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA05900 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from su1.in.net (su1.in.net [199.0.62.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA05890; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by su1.in.net (5.65/1.2-eef) id AA29431; Fri, 19 Jul 96 11:18:57 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:17:36 -400 (EDT) From: Jay Richmond Subject: multiple OS documentation update To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk to those interested: the new multiple OS documentation (recently converted and updated substantially) is available on the WWW at http://www.in.net/~jayrich/doc/multios.html and will be available shortly on the freebsd web server. thanks, jay jayrich@in.net From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 09:21:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA05906 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05891 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr [134.157.72.87]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with SMTP id SAA19787 ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:21:07 +0200 (METDST) Received: from radius.biomath.jussieu.fr (radius) by mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jn930126+af960507(mailhost)) at Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:20:31 +0100 Received: from (af@localhost) by radius.biomath.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) id SAA26356 ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:20:32 +0100 (WET) Message-Id: <199607191720.SAA26356@radius.biomath.jussieu.fr> Subject: Re: [2.1R] ^C in telnet session kills the connection, why ? To: wongm@lespoir.apana.org.au (M.C Wong) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:20:32 +0100 (WET) From: "Alain FAUCONNET" Cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "M.C Wong" at Jul 8, 96 02:28:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk M.C Wong wrote / a ecrit: > > Hi, > I'm having a problem when telnet from a HP-UX box into a FreeBSD 2.1R > machine, typing ^C actually kills the telnet connection. Is there anything > on telnet that one can set to prevent this from hapenning ? > > Telnet from the same host to a Sun box doesn't have this problem. > Kind of a late reply, but I wanted to check... I have tested telnet from HP-UX 9.07 and 10.10 to my 2.1-stable (pre-massive commit) FreeBSD box and I have been unable to reproduce that. Can you be more specific ? (versions, context) _Alain_ -- Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM Public Health 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE Medical Computing Research Labs Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68 I've RTFMed. It says: "Refer to your system administrator" But... I *am* the system administrator :-] From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 09:31:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA06446 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (root@ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA06439 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-7.ime.net [206.231.148.136]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA02156; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:30:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31EFB865.3E8E@ime.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:31:33 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Wollman CC: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Scanning for Interfaces! References: <31EFADF9.7E3E@ime.net> <9607191552.AA13575@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Garrett Wollman wrote: > > < said: > > > Problem one: > > socket(AF_IPX, SOCK_xxxx, PF_IPX) > > Fails with: Protocol not supported! (xxxx = DGRAM or others) > > So I look elsewhere for uses of 'socket', I of course found many > > and noticed that few use the third param. (protocol) > > > Is there something else thats missing?? > > > My fix was: (Right or wrong, I don't know) > > socket(AF_IPX, SOCK_xxxx, 0) > > Almost. It should be: > > socket(PF_IPX, SOCK_whatever, protocol_or_zero); > > where protocol_or_zero could be either zero (use the default), or a > specification of a particular protocol (like IPXPROTO_SPX). Most of > the time there is no reason to specify the protocol, but it is > necessary if you are using SOCK_RAW sockets. > Geez, thats was quick! I guess my mention of my hour long redundant loops me->questions->me must of improved something.. Right on to whomever! And Garret was ready on the keys.. Thanks Garret! Enough jobs well done and on with it. (You'all know you do a good job. If ya don't tell me, I'll tell ya! :) Ok, So I was basically right, Maybe not properly right, But it should work as Zero as I changed it to. Thanks. > > Scanning for interfaces fails! It seems the index of the interface > > structures/tables is off, It lists the first one sorta right, And > > the rest keep getting further and further off. > > (The first one works except for the address translation, I can fix) > > I have compared the structures they match pretty close! I see nothing > > that should cause this! the sizes are all determind via sizeof() > > anyways. > > No, this sizes are /not/ determined by the sizeof operator, that is > your problem. The sizes are determined by the sa_len element of the > sockaddr structure. > Ok, At least I have someplace to look. :) Maybe I'm in way to deep over my head, Actually I know I am! But how else does one rectify this without trying. :) My mind won't let me give up now though! I've GOT to get it working or I'll never be able to live with myself! This is the revelant loop. (I didn't write it!) itf_info.ifc_len=sizeof(itf_table); itf_info.ifc_buf=(char*)itf_table; bytes_left=itf_info.ifc_len; for(ifr=itf_info.ifc_req; bytes_left>=sizeof(*ifr);ifr++,bytes_left-=sizeof(*ifr)) { kinda worthless without supporting code though. Thanks Garret I appreciate your assistance! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 09:33:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA06568 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA06562; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:33:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05615; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:33:26 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:33:25 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: Gary Palmer cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't delete rcp In-Reply-To: <3178.837555161@orion.webspan.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > file, then increase the kernel security level (currently -1 as it > causes problems in some situations) Such as? Inquiring minds want to know. :-) -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 09:38:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA06793 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zyqad.co.uk (zyqad.demon.co.uk [158.152.135.161]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA06786 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by zyqad.co.uk; (5.65/1.1.8.2/21Apr95-0317PM) id AA31359; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:35:00 +0100 Message-Id: <9607191635.AA31359@zyqad.co.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Questions following new 2.1.0R installation Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 17:34:59 +0100 From: "John Richards" X-Mts: smtp Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I have a number of questions following my successful installation on 2.1R. 1. When I boot I get as far as the bit that says it is starting 'sendmail' and then it sticks. I have set up sysconfig to not start sendmail yet this still happens. What gives? I get past this point by hitting Cntl-C. 2. Probably related to 1. When I log in through xdm it pauses for a long time before letting me in. Ditto when I start emacs, netscape. I think this must be because it is trying to check with something like a nameserver? 3. I'm trying to get my USR 28.8 external modem working. I've read the handbook and the FAQ but my problem is that when I do a 'tip modem' t says that /dev/cuaa1 is locked. Yet I can do a 'cu -l /dev/cuaa1 -s 57600' and get connected to the serial port. Having got connected to the serial port I get no feedback from the modem. I type 'AT'; I see nothing on the screen no AT no OK nothing. Yet I do know that the modem receives what I send 'cos ATDT9549666 dials my service provider who responds and accepts a login - well I'm assuming the last 'cos I can't see what's happening. Where have I gone wrong?? My settings are IRQ3 and 0x2f8 for the com port and even DOS agrees. 4. If I set up user PPP, or the other one (kernel?) will I still need a dialer program? That will do for now as until I get past these I can't get any further wit hwhat I want to do. I'm not certain that 3 shouldn't be addressed to the hardware list. Thanks to Jordan and the team for all the work. Keep it up some of us really appreciate it. Bye John (Play Violin & Ride Bike - but not at the same time) ******************************************************************************** John Richards * email : john@zyqad.co.uk Zyqad Ltd, * Suite 25, GPT Business Park, * Technology Drive, Beeston * tel : +44 115 922 0820 NOTTINGHAM. NG9 2ND. * fax : +44 115 967 8374 ******************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 09:38:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA06837 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA06828 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05643; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:38:38 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:38:37 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: Mark Huizer cc: Hung Michael Nguyen , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: JDK 1.0.2 available for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199607190818.KAA01181@xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, FreeBSD matters of Mark Huizer wrote: > There are two things you can do, both mostly easily to be found in the > ports tree. > > 1. kaffe (ftp://ftp.sarc.city.ac.uk:/pub/kaffe) is in /usr/ports/www/kaffe > > 2. use netscape: you install the JDK (a.o. the classes.zip file, see 3. If you are running FreeBSD-current, the linux port of jdk 1.0.2 works just fine. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 09:42:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07036 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.dsu.edu (ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu [138.247.32.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07030 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ghelmer@localhost) by alpha.dsu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA19382 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:42:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:42:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Guy Helmer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kerberized/encrypted rlogins - 2.1.5 incompatible with everything else? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just upgraded two 2.1 machines to 2.1.5 yesterday, and now when I try to login to them from my FreeBSD 2.1 workstation via kerberos-encrypted rlogin sessions, I get gibberish! Non-encrypted kerberos rlogin sessions work fine between 2.1 and 2.1.5 systems, but encrypted sessions, my prefered method, do not work in either direction between 2.1.5 and anything other system. ldd of rlogin and rlogind on the 2.1.5 systems show: /usr/bin/rlogin: -lcom_err.2 => /usr/lib/libcom_err.so.2.0 (0x8034000) -lkrb.2 => /usr/lib/libkrb.so.2.1 (0x801e000) -ldes.2 => /usr/lib/libdes.so.2.1 (0x8043000) -lc.2 => /usr/lib/libc.so.2.2 (0x804f000) /usr/libexec/rlogind: -lutil.2 => /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1 (0x801d000) -lcom_err.2 => /usr/lib/libcom_err.so.2.0 (0x8018000) -lkrb.2 => /usr/lib/libkrb.so.2.1 (0x802c000) -ldes.2 => /usr/lib/libdes.so.2.1 (0x8042000) -lc.2 => /usr/lib/libc.so.2.2 (0x804e000) Very strange... I see no significant difference in the rlogind code, so I guess I'll have to dig into libdes :-( Any thoughts? Guy Guy Helmer, Dakota State University Computing Services - ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 10:01:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA08001 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from meno.uchicago.edu (meno.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA07994 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from meno.uchicago.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by meno.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00970; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:03:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607191703.MAA00970@meno.uchicago.edu> To: Ron Echeverri Subject: rcmd: socket: Protocol not available cc: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <966.837795795.1@meno.uchicago.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:03:16 -0500 From: steve farrell Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >% rlogin shellx >rcmd: socket: Protocol not available > >This did not happen when i was running 2.1-STABLE nor did it happen with >2.2-SNAP9606. What'd i do wrong? I don't know what could be causing this, >so i'm not sure where to look to fix it. In the meantime, of course, i'm >trying to figure out how to work with ssh (and also figure out why it refuses >to start certain X clients from my .xinitrc now) and xauth... > >thanks >rone i'm getting this too. i assumed it was due to the lazy way i've been upgrading to 2.1.5 from 2.1-stable: picking random parts of the source tree and typing make all install. i'm been planning on doing a make world, since today telnetd stopped working, complaining of an unresolved symbol in libc. i'm going to try to do a make all install in /usr/src/lib (latest sup), and see how it goes. [some time passes...] ...actually, i rather suspect you did what i did, which was give yourself a copy of libc.so.3.0 so you could run binaries from a -current box. evidentally i've been building against this library not libc.so.2.2. i wouldn't think it would matter much, except that 3.0 doesn't seem to match a 2.1 kernel, and hence these errors. [that's my guess, at least] try ldd'ing your rsh. considering things like make (at least for me) are now built against 3.0, probably the only solutions are (a) finish going to 2.2 (b) do a full binary installation for 2.1.5. i'm going to go for (b); i've already got a 2.2 box to play with. (unless maybe if i put libc.so.3.0 someplace weird, add an LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and try making stuff?? -- that might work too...) --steve farrell From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 10:25:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA09359 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov (mailhost.lanl.gov [128.165.3.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA09345 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hamlet.lanl.gov.lanl.gov by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.7.5/1.2) id LAA28399; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:25:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by hamlet.lanl.gov.lanl.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07031; Fri, 19 Jul 96 11:25:14 MDT Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 11:25:14 MDT From: crs@hamlet.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby) Message-Id: <9607191725.AA07031@hamlet.lanl.gov.lanl.gov> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: crypt sudo Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... A few interrelated questions: Is there a port of sudo to FreeBSD that doesn't use crypt? I tried building it on my FreeBSD (2.1) box last night and it complained about not being able to find crypt which, of course, is no surprise. Is there a version around anywhere that uses FreeBSD's alternative to crypt? What must I do to make FreeBSD compatible with sudo? I realize that I must find the DES stuff used in Unix. But what all is involved? Presumeably, I must get all of that stuff and install it (where can I find it and how much is there?). I should think that, if I want sudo to be able to use the regular user passwords then I must also convert them from the normal form (MD5?) to DES form. Is this process documented anywhere? How difficult (and time consuming) is it? Thanks for any help. I'd sure like to be able to use sudo to do simple root things like mount and such without actually su-ing to root every time. I prefer to spend as little time as root as possible. Best, Charlie "Older than dirt" Sorsby "I'm the NRA!" crs@hamlet.lanl.gov Life Member since 1965 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 10:57:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA10540 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10534 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA05837; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:56:52 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:56:51 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: Rashid Karimov cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: JDK 1.0.2 available for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199607191752.NAA25323@rk.ios.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Rashid Karimov wrote: > I couldn't get Linux port to work - java binary compalins > about unresolved __libc_malloc ? What could it be ? Can some1 > give general advice on how to install Linux's version of JDK ? You have to find the right collection of linux shared libraries. I got mine from a RedHat distribution, but I some apps (not jdk) still have problems. I'll have to raid a real working linux machine sometime. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 10:58:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA10604 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM (THOR.INNOSOFT.COM [192.160.253.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10599 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #8694) id <01I796D30F688Y51B3@INNOSOFT.COM>; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:56:59 -0700 (PDT) From: zounds@INNOSOFT.COM Subject: Re: Floppy installation. In-reply-to: <31EEB5B6.3DB4@siu.edu> To: Nathan Denny Cc: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Nathan Denny wrote: > I'm installing, via floppy, to a 386 with 2 IDE disks. > I run the installation program which works just peachy ...up until the > disk of death. When it gets to bin.cl it crashes the installation. > I've ftp'ed in BINARY from two different sources. I've used different > floppies. Each time the reported error on VTY-1 is WRITTEN -1 of 512 bytes. > The debug, VTY-2, says invalid gunzip cpio or something like that. > I've also tried both version 2.1.0 and 2.1.5 Please HELP! My sanity is at > stake. > Nate:SCHCATS! > Try using a different physical floppy. And I hope that you arent using those AOL floppies! From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 10:58:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA10640 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10596 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA25323; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 13:52:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199607191752.NAA25323@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: JDK 1.0.2 available for FreeBSD? To: jfieber@indiana.edu (John Fieber) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 13:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Cc: xaa@stack.urc.tue.nl, miker@cs.utexas.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "John Fieber" at Jul 19, 96 11:38:37 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, FreeBSD matters of Mark Huizer wrote: > > > There are two things you can do, both mostly easily to be found in the > > ports tree. > > > > 1. kaffe (ftp://ftp.sarc.city.ac.uk:/pub/kaffe) is in /usr/ports/www/kaffe > > > > 2. use netscape: you install the JDK (a.o. the classes.zip file, see > > 3. If you are running FreeBSD-current, the linux port of jdk > 1.0.2 works just fine. > > -john I couldn't get Linux port to work - java binary compalins about unresolved __libc_malloc ? What could it be ? Can some1 give general advice on how to install Linux's version of JDK ? I do have Linux Netscape and other binaries running just fine on my machine ( it's latest 2.2 SNAP ). Rashid. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 11:03:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA10831 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cornus.FSL.ORST.EDU (root@FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.105]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA10826 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from picea.FSL.ORST.EDU (hernanw@picea.FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.3]) by cornus.FSL.ORST.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA09666 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:03:29 -0700 Received: (from hernanw@localhost) by picea.FSL.ORST.EDU (8.7/8.6.9) id LAA20341; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:03:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Hernandez To: questions Subject: ghostscript and remote printers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I seem to be unable to print ps files to a hp laserjet ii on a jetdirect card. I can print plain text files fine. When using gs from the command line, it always wants me to enter quit. This is my /etc/printcap entries: fsl363|3|ljII:\ :sh:\ :if=/usr/lib/hpnp/hplj.if.sh:\ :of=/usr/lib/hpnp/hplj.of.sh:\ :lp=/dev/null:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :sd=/var/spool/fsl363: # # test for print ps file on fsl363 # ps|LJII Postscript (Ghostscript PS->PCL Conversion):\ :lp=/dev/null:\ :sd=/var/spool/ps:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :of=/usr/local/bin/gslj:\ :sh: This is gslj: #!/bin/sh PRINTER=fsl363 GS_LIB=/usr/local/lib/ghostscript/fonts export PRINTER GS_LIB exec gs -q -sDEVICE=laserjet -r300 -dNOPAUSE -- gslp.ps --heading-center "`date`" "$@" I won't include hplj.if.sh, since it's large, but it calls /usr/local/libexec/netprint $PERIPH $PORTS which is: #!/usr/local/bin/perl # # netprint - Text filter for printer attached to network # Installed in /usr/local/libexec/netprint # $#ARGV eq 1 || die "Usage: $0 "; $printer_host = $ARGV[0]; $printer_port = $ARGV[1]; require 'sys/socket.ph'; ($ignore, $ignore, $protocol) = getprotobyname('tcp'); ($ignore, $ignore, $ignore, $ignore, $address) = gethostbyname($printer_host); $sockaddr = pack('S n a4 x8', &AF_INET, $printer_port, $address); socket(PRINTER, &PF_INET, &SOCK_STREAM, $protocol) || die "Can't create TCP/IP stream socket: $!"; connect(PRINTER, $sockaddr) || die "Can't contact $printer_host: $!"; while () { print PRINTER; } # printf "\f"; exit 0; From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 11:19:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA11401 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11395 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA02586; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:19:20 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199607191819.UAA02586@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Scanning for Interfaces! To: tcg@ime.net Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:19:19 +0200 (SAT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31EFADF9.7E3E@ime.net> from Gary Chrysler at "Jul 19, 96 11:47:05 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hiya all. > > I'm working on hacking up a Linux IPX program, LinWare (lwared-0.95) > I've got it compiling, It runs, It dosn't work! :( > No connection to the interface yet. > > The problem: Several. :( > In hopes of: Help! > Reason : It's over my head. :( > And would like very much to change this! > Only way is to dive in! I have, I need some > assitance. > > System 2.1.0-R, fbsd-ipx patch. (2.1.5 when I get the CD) > > [....] > > BTW: I added two things to sockaddr_ipx in sys/netipx/ipx.h > struct sockaddr_ipx { > u_char sipx_len; > u_char sipx_family; > struct ipx_addr sipx_addr; > char sipx_zero[2]; > u_char sipx_type; /* tcg */ > u_long sipx_network; /* tcg */ > }; > I see Garrett has already answered the other questions, so I will just comment on this one. Defining sipx_network there will probably not work, because the kernel part of ipx will expect it inside sipx_addr. Maybe you can make a #define to make getting to it easier, eg. #define sipx_network (*(union ipx_net_u *)&sipx_addr.x_net)).long_e Note that this may not be correct because I have been looking at a -current ipx.h file. I'm not sure what the purpose of the sipx_type field is. Is it the ipx type that should be used in the type field of the packet? Because that is set with a setsockopt(....., SO_DEFAULT_HEADERS, ...) call. You can get an example of that in IPXrouted/main.c John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 12:15:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA13978 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13952 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srmail.sr.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA067763691; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:14:52 -0700 Received: from hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com by srmail.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA152893690; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:14:51 -0700 Received: from mina.sr.hp.com by hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA003883690; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:14:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199607191914.AA003883690@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com> To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions-digest V1 #1121 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:19:48 PDT." <199607191819.LAA11411@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:14:49 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Alain FAUCONNET wrote: > M.C Wong wrote / a ecrit: > > > I'm having a problem when telnet from a HP-UX box into a FreeBSD 2.1R > > machine, typing ^C actually kills the telnet connection. Is there anything > > on telnet that one can set to prevent this from hapenning ? > > > > Telnet from the same host to a Sun box doesn't have this problem. > > Kind of a late reply, but I wanted to check... > I have tested telnet from HP-UX 9.07 and 10.10 to my 2.1-stable (pre-massive > commit) FreeBSD box and I have been unable to reproduce that. > Can you be more specific ? (versions, context) It also works fine for me (HP-UX 9.05 and 10.10), using 2.1R. The telnet escape character isn't set to ^C, right? -- Darryl Okahata Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 12:20:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA14268 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.via.net (ns.via.net [140.174.204.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14262 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joe@localhost) by ns.via.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA11703 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:17:50 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:17:50 -0700 From: Joe McGuckin Message-Id: <199607191917.MAA11703@ns.via.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: BSDCON?? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a conference of some sort? Where? When? Are there regular meetings in the SF bay area? -joe From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 12:21:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA14369 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.via.net (ns.via.net [140.174.204.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14364 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joe@localhost) by ns.via.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA11707 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:19:03 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:19:03 -0700 From: Joe McGuckin Message-Id: <199607191919.MAA11707@ns.via.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: IPX? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does FreeBSD support IPX? Is there any work going in in that area? I'd really like to be able to gateway TCP/IP to IPX/SPX... -joe From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 12:54:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA15536 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www11.clever.net (root@[208.5.14.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15531 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ebase.ebasem.com (j1.brf48.jaring.my [161.142.239.127]) by www11.clever.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA09491 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31EFD88E.1593@ebasem.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 03:48:46 +0900 From: Mahammad Noor Osman Reply-To: mnor@ebasem.com Organization: EBASE (M) SDN BHD X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Virtual Hosts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi, Does FreeBSD support virtual hosts ? thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 13:36:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA17754 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 13:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA17743 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 13:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa23394; 19 Jul 96 21:34 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa18064; 19 Jul 96 20:22 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00294; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:20:12 GMT Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:20:12 GMT Message-Id: <199607190920.JAA00294@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: evans911@cs.uidaho.edu CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Jason Evans on Thu, 18 Jul 1996 01:02:20 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Are threads available? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Jason Evans writes: > > Is there a (working) threads package for FreeBSD? Kernel threads support will be in 2.2. In the meantime, the "pthreads" package will run on 2.1.0 and may even be in the ports collection for 2.1.5 (I don't have one here to check). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 14:32:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA20772 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (root@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA20763 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA01309; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:32:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:32:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: Mahammad Noor Osman cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtual Hosts In-Reply-To: <31EFD88E.1593@ebasem.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yes it does...I have several Mike On Sat, 20 Jul 1996, Mahammad Noor Osman wrote: > hi, > Does FreeBSD support virtual hosts ? > > thanks > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 14:33:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA20879 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA20867 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA09423; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:33:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: John Fieber cc: questions@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: can't delete rcp In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:33:25 CDT." Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:33:32 -0400 Message-ID: <9419.837812012@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Fieber wrote in message ID : > On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > > > file, then increase the kernel security level (currently -1 as it > > causes problems in some situations) > > Such as? Inquiring minds want to know. :-) I beleive XFree86 stops working as it can no longer open /dev/mem, or something ... this is all documented in the mail archive. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 14:35:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA21107 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www (quicklink.com [204.32.218.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA21098 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atorrey (us1-s28.quicklink.com) by www (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09413; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:35:21 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960719223420.007006cc@quicklink.com> X-Sender: atorrey@quicklink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:34:20 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org From: allan torrey Subject: install/sony33a cdrom Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Any suggestions on installing FBSD to scsi hd via Sony's 33A CDROM 2x (listed as supported), which has its own proprietary card? Thanks Allan Torrey From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 15:05:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22345 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22336 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ai23253; 19 Jul 96 21:31 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa18248; 19 Jul 96 20:23 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00299; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:41:23 GMT Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:41:23 GMT Message-Id: <199607190941.JAA00299@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: WSNAdmin@aol.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <960718172827_159156182@emout15.mail.aol.com> (WSNAdmin@aol.com) Subject: Re: Installing Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> WSNAdmin@aol.com writes: > > First, I would like to say thank you to all involved in the FreeBSD project. > I think it is a wonderful means for learning. Thank you! > I am installing from floppies (ok, so I'm taking the hard way) and I > installed the /bin and /man files, how would I later install the /src > binaries from a DOS floppy. I read something about the build is organized so > that one can install other parts of the system (except for the src files) > from an NFS mount. I would hate to have to re-install again. It seems, by > reading the literature, that I can make or build the binaries....or are they > already compiled and all I have to do is install. Easiest way - get the files by FTP (or copy them off the CD if you have one) and then run the install.sh script, eg # cd /some/where/with/lots/of/room # cp /cdrom/dists/src/* . # ./install.sh If you really must use DOS floppies, the easiest way is to install the mtools package and then copy the files onto disk, eg # cd /some/where/with/lots/of/room (Insert floppy) # mcopy a:* . (Insert next floppy) # mcopy a:* . (...) # ./install.sh -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 15:08:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22509 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22504 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA29138 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:08:01 -0700 Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-13.ime.net [206.231.148.142]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA27602; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <31F00670.6C5E@ime.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:04:32 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: John Hay Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Scanning for Interfaces! References: <199607191819.UAA02586@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Hay wrote: > > > I see Garrett has already answered the other questions, so I will just > comment on this one. Yup, I haven't had enough time yet to fully asorb Garrets reply as of yet.. :( Working on it. Thanks Garret! > Defining sipx_network there will probably not work, because the kernel > part of ipx will expect it inside sipx_addr. Maybe you can make a #define > to make getting to it easier, eg. > #define sipx_network (*(union ipx_net_u *)&sipx_addr.x_net)).long_e > Note that this may not be correct because I have been looking at a > -current ipx.h file. Yea, I did use a define at first and that caused trouble, But I didn't do it as you suggest! I'll try it as well as show what I have in ipx.h, I belive it is the same as current. (MCI's Wonderfull high speed back bone is up to it's normal speed. So I couldn't get to a -current ipx.h for comparision before this reply, I will look later when usage is lower.) My ipx.h is from the fbsd-ipx.tgz. It is: (Revelant part, shortened) union ipx_host { u_char c_host[6]; u_short s_host[3]; }; union ipx_net { u_char c_net[4]; u_short s_net[2]; }; union ipx_net_u { union ipx_net net_e; u_long long_e; }; struct ipx_addr { union ipx_net x_net; union ipx_host x_host; u_short x_port; }; struct sockaddr_ipx { u_char sipx_len; u_char sipx_family; struct ipx_addr sipx_addr; char sipx_zero[2]; u_char sipx_type; /* tcg */ u_long sipx_network; /* tcg */ }; #define sipx_port sipx_addr.x_port #define sipx_special sipx_addr.x_port /* tcg */ /* #define sipx_network sipx_addr.x_net tcg */ #define sipx_node sipx_addr.x_host.c_host /* tcg */ NOTE: Ok pick yourself up off the floor and quit laughing! These (whatevers) did move me along.. Maybe not in the right direction but any direction is better then no direction. I did get further and learned a bunch! sipx_special, Is defined the same in the Linux ipx.h sipx_node, :) I know it's wrong.. whats right/better?? sipx_network, ?? John, is your suggestion fitting?? In hopes maybe one of you kind souls will pass along better/right methods I've included the Linux sockaddr_ipx. (it was in my ipx.h for my reference.) I do realize the parsing of these variables in the program needs to be changed to match the different types. I would rather change the program then the kernel. :) /* tcg linux struct sockaddr_ipx { short sipx_family; ok short sipx_port; ok unsigned long sipx_network; added unsigned char sipx_node[IPX_NODE_LEN]; kludged unsigned char sipx_type; added unsigned char sipx_zero; 16 byte fill }; */ > I'm not sure what the purpose of the sipx_type field is. Is it the > ipx type that should be used in the type field of the packet? Because > that is set with a setsockopt(....., SO_DEFAULT_HEADERS, ...) call. > You can get an example of that in IPXrouted/main.c Yes John, That is what it is. (I belive) It's one of: #define IPX_NCP_PTYPE 0x17 #define IPX_RIP_PTYPE (1U) #define IPX_SAP_PTYPE (4U) #define IPX_USER_PTYPE (0) I've assumed PTYPE means Packet type.. Code looks that way as well. :) Thanks John, I'll look into the setsockopt(...). I really appreciate your alls assistance. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 15:12:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22707 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22702 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA20352 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:12:02 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA00254; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:44:59 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607192144.OAA00254@starshine> Subject: Re: BSDCON?? To: joe@ns.via.net (Joe McGuckin) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607191917.MAA11703@ns.via.net> from "Joe McGuckin" at Jul 19, 96 12:17:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Is there a conference of some sort? Where? When? > > Are there regular meetings in the SF bay area? > -joe There is a new Linux User's Group forming in SF. I attended the 1st meeting and recommended that we include FreeBSD and Linux within the scope of the meeting. It looks like we'll be meeting once per month -- During the second or third week on (hopefully) Thursdays. This meeting was held at the Four Seas restaurant in Chinatown. Probably the next few will also be there. The co-ordinators name is Arthur F. Tyde III (aftyde@slip.net). There is also a group that meets (first Wednesday???) in San Jose that's called something like the: Silicon Valley PC User's Group, Linux and Low Cost Unix Special Interest Group (SVPCUG/LSIG) You can find out more about them at: http://www.worldtalk.com/svcs.linux/ Other than that I don't know of any. If joining one of these doesn't appeal to you, and you want to start one that's specific to FreeBSD let me know. Jim Dennis, Starshine Technical Services From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 15:12:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22728 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22722 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA20361 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:12:05 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA00267; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:00:52 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607192200.PAA00267@starshine> Subject: Re: Virtual Hosts To: mnor@ebasem.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31EFD88E.1593@ebasem.com> from "Mahammad Noor Osman" at Jul 20, 96 03:48:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > hi, > Does FreeBSD support virtual hosts ? The combination of FreeBSD with the Apache web server does support virtual web hosting. I've heard that the wu-ftpd also supports virtual ftp hosting. You general accomplish this by binding multiple IP addresses to an interface, configuring your DNS to advertise each name on a different IP address, and configuring the web/ftp software to correlate the host to the IP address mapping and use different document trees, or chroot's accordingly. Jim Dennis, Starshine Technical Services From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 15:26:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA23427 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (root@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23422 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA01513; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:26:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:26:05 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: allan torrey cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: install/sony33a cdrom In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960719223420.007006cc@quicklink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Boot with the -c option which will allow you to make some configuration changes. When prompted, enter visual (suggested) configuration. Under the Storage section, highlight the SOny CDROM and hit enter. Make sure the base address is correct. You may also want to check the settings for other devices such as ether cards and your SCSI controller while you're in there. Other than that, hit Q to quit and save you changes and continue with the install. I have the same CD here and have installed FBSD "MANY" times with it :) Mike On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, allan torrey wrote: > Any suggestions on installing FBSD to scsi hd via Sony's 33A CDROM 2x > (listed as supported), which has its own proprietary card? > > Thanks > Allan Torrey > > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 15:45:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA24221 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24215 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ad23462; 19 Jul 96 21:36 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa18137; 19 Jul 96 20:22 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00315; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:49:36 GMT Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:49:36 GMT Message-Id: <199607190949.JAA00315@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: paul@nation-net.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31EE7E12.1256@nation-net.com> (message from Paul Walsh on Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:10:26 +0100) Subject: Re: gcc -DTERMIO ... in compiling SSL? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Paul Walsh writes: > > Compiler option for gcc when compiling read_pw.c .Is this right? > The TERMIO define looks for termio.h on my system, which doesn't exist. > > Shouldn't this be -DTERMIOS I think so as well. Please could you report this to the author of SSL so it can be corrected in the next version? -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 15:53:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA24535 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quebecweb.com (quebecweb.com [204.101.227.117]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24528 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by quebecweb.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA00140 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:10:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:10:09 -0400 From: Mario Verville Message-Id: <199607192210.SAA00140@quebecweb.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Big Problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My name is Mario Verville, I am a french canadian that runs freeBSD 2.0 on a 386 Machine. My server name is quebecweb.com. Here is my problem. I log my machine on the web via kermit and pppd. When i try to put httpd, it runs but only few minutes after i loaded httpd a message: Fatal trap: page fault while in Kernel mode Fault address: 0xf040f00 Fault Code: supervisor read, page not present .... appears and the system reboot. Sometimes before it make it, when i tried to log (pppd file /etc/ppp/options), this message appeared, but now, it is one or two minutes after i loaded httpd -r /etc/httpd.conf I know my service provider was supposed to change the bandwidth. Could it be the problem? Please help me Mario From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 15:54:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA24582 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seabass.progroup.com (catfish.progroup.com [206.24.122.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA24577 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from craig@localhost) by seabass.progroup.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA07273; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607192255.PAA07273@seabass.progroup.com> Subject: Re: scsi tape drives..... To: waveman@wamnet.net Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:55:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Craig Shaver" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607171815.OAA15283@wam1.netrunner.net> from "waveman@wamnet.net" at Jul 17, 96 02:15:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > can someone recommend to me a good scsi tape drive that works well with > freebsd? please email me directly... > > I use HP35480A dat and Archive 250/QIC150 tapes. I really like the dat tape drive. -- Craig Shaver (craig@progroup.com) (415)390-0654 Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 16:04:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA24842 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA24837 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id aa07596; 19 Jul 96 23:04 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26149; 19 Jul 96 23:35 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA12688; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:56:52 GMT Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:56:52 GMT Message-Id: <199607192156.VAA12688@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: paul@nation-net.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31EFB4F3.3061@nation-net.com> (message from Paul Walsh on Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:16:51 +0100) Subject: Re: compiling SSL - falling at the last fence Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Paul Walsh writes: > > The Makefile gets as far as compiling destest.o into destest but bombs > with lots of undefined symbols in text segment of destest.o . Could you show us the errors? (no need to post 20 screenfuls, just a representative sample will do :-) > Could this be because I've added DES to an originally md5 freeBSD? Dunno. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 16:09:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25007 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA25002 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA26827 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:09:33 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA00328; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:42:54 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607192242.PAA00328@starshine> Subject: Re: text = 0xe3000 - -- and locks: Why? To: jim@starshine.org (Jim Dennis) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, jim@starshine.org, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607190807.BAA00642@starshine> from "Jim Dennis" at Jul 19, 96 01:07:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Ugh. This is ugly. Put on the long rubber gloves and dig in... I did figure out at least part of the problem. All I had to do was change this machine's CMOS setup value for "Scratch RAM" (which I guess was AMI's term for XBDA or EBDA -- "extended BIOS data area" back in '90). This allowed me to install "Minimal" on the wd0 drive and boot successfully off of it. I was also able to mount my /dev/sd0s2a and other partitions (with "Everything" installed). However I decided that I don't really want to manually fuddle everything together on that side of the house (I was tempted to just mount and symlink the /usr/local tree but decided that I have no idea what side effects that might have). I realize that I shouldn't have to treat FreeBSD like a big monolithic system -- that it's not "all or nothing." However, I really need to see how everything fits together coming from a "clean" install before I'll feel comfortable trying to patch it all together by hand myself. I still can't boot sd(1,a) or sd(0,a) or hd(1,a) in any variation. I haven't tried a fresh install over there although I might, later. Anyway. It looks like FreeBSD didn't like this machine's default way of dealing with the XBDA (info about 2nd LPT ports and 3rd and 4th serial ports IIRC). The options were "use the BIOS stack area at 0000:0030" (???) -- the default, or "use 1K of address space in 'conventional' memory" (the option that works). I haven't had to think about an XBDA in years. My guess is that the system boot loader was overwriting part of the XBDA while the processor was still in real mode (and the software is dependant on the BIOS to drive the DMA) -- and this was causing the lock up. Booting off the floppy was probably overwriting the same area -- but that HD's DMA was affected, not the floppy's -- by the time the HD was needed the processor was in protected mode -- and the kernel's 32-bit drivers are responsible for all I/O. Maybe one of the kernel hacks, or David G. or Jordan H., could clarify this. I think I'll concoct a new plan for transitioning this box off of the buggy old Slackware -- where in I'll install Debian (Linux) 1.1 -- mount up my slackware partitions, xfer my data accross; blow them away -- and *then* try another install of FreeBSD. (I like to keep these system multi-boot since my machines and equipment at home are use primarily as a "lab" -- a place for me to play with OS' and freeware/shareware packages so I'll know what I'm stepping in when I recommend these to employers, clients, customers, and friends). This will work better than having to tar everything over to that little 32M DOS partition, and hope that FreeBSD doesn't have a problem getting it back from there (there doesn't seem to be an ext2fs or even a minix filesystem driver around for FreeBSD -- and my old Slackware doesn't have a ufs driver). Hopefully, I can get the Linux ufs driver running and make it "see" the FreeBSD side of the house (once I have *both* OS installed). My other working desktop system is basically busy -- so I don't want to bring it into the equation just yet. My new Pentium desktop isn't built yet (although I do have it close enough that I can boot from floppy -- so now I starting installing OS' on it starting with the obligatory little DOS partition, and adding NT 4.0 beta and then Debian and then FreeBSD). (The laptop is not an experimental/lab machine -- that's where I actually keep "work"). Maybe I pick a different hobby. Collecting stamps? Spelunking? ... Nah! Jim Dennis, Starshine Technical Services From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 16:13:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25169 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (root@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA25164 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA01730 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:13:23 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:13:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Trouble Running Top Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I try to run top as a user, I get the following error: [/home/flaq] :top kvm_open: /dev/mem: Permission denied [/home/flaq] : If I run it as root, it runs fine. Below are the properties of /dev/mem crw-r----- 1 root kmem 2, 0 Jul 19 05:38 mem Any idea how to fix this? Mike ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 16:18:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25344 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cannon.ecf.toronto.edu (root@cannon.ecf.toronto.edu [128.100.8.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA25336 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by cannon.ecf.toronto.edu id <1842>; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 19:18:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 19:18:22 -0400 From: YUEN Nancy Pui X-Sender: yuenn@spark12.ecf To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: TEAC CD55a CD ROM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently bought FreeBSD 2.1 at Comdex'96. I just realized that it doesn't support the TEAC CD55a 4X CD ROM, which is the one I have. Is there a way around this problem? Do other versions of UNIX support this CD ROM? Your help is most appreciated. Thanks in advance!!! ============================================================================== ** Nancy Yuen "When the going seems all uphill ** ** yuenn@ecf.utoronto.ca think of the view from the top!!!" ** ** Eng Sci 9T8 ** ============================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 16:29:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25879 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA25872 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id bc28211; 20 Jul 96 0:28 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26368; 19 Jul 96 23:36 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA07144; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:32:04 GMT Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:32:04 GMT Message-Id: <199607192132.VAA07144@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk CC: questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Michael Searle on Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:33:42 BST) Subject: Re: NCR controller problem? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Michael Searle writes: > > (ncr:6:0) COMMAND FAILED (6 2) @ f066f948 Judging from your dmesg output, this is your CDROM... > Does/could this mean that there is something wrong with my controller/drive? The first thing to do with any kind of SCSI problem is to check and double-check the cables and that all your devices are properly terminated. With CDROM drives, make sure they are absolutely horizontal and firmly fixed to their surroundings. The next thing is to carry out some kind of test. There is a scsi(8) command on FreeBSD, but it seems to assume quite a bit of knowledge about SCSI. Other than that, the only other thing I can think of is rebooting and using whatever facilities are available in the BIOS or even (gack!) under DOS. > (I guess my drive is OK, as it hadn't got as far as detecting it.) The only > other problems I have had with this machine are with floppies (They are slow, > occasionally use a lot of CPU, produce errors like 'input ready timeout' and > 'hard error at fsbn xxxx' (while reading and writing successfully) and at > least twice caused panics - but this may be the msdosfs, not the floppy.) Try installing the mtools package - it makes using DOS floppies almost bearable :-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 16:31:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25997 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wahoo.netrunner.net (root@wahoo.netrunner.net [204.137.145.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA25989 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wam4.netrunner.net ([205.164.225.243]) by wahoo.netrunner.net (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00781 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 19:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31F0192C.7E87@wamnetrunner.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 19:24:28 -0400 From: Andrew Massias X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: HELP!!!! SCSI Tape drive.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone recommend to me a SCSI tape drive/driver combination that will run reliably with FreeBSD 2.1.0 Generic? Id settle for an IDE tape if it could run with no sweat. Thanks in advance..... -andrew@netrunner.net (Andrew Massias) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 16:33:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA26100 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baloon.mimi.com (sjx-ca23-10.ix.netcom.com [204.30.65.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26095 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by baloon.mimi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id QAA13479; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607192333.QAA13479@baloon.mimi.com> To: njensen@salsa.habaneros.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <01BB74CA.1F813D80@jalapeno.habaneros.com> (njensen@salsa.habaneros.com) Subject: Re: 2.1.5R and ccd questions From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Just finished installing 2.1.5R (went very smoothly, thanks * Team FreeBSD!) and thought I'd try disk mirroring using * ccd. I want to mirror the contents of my entire file system * so that I can reboot from one of the disk if the other fails. * * I have read the documentation; ccd home page and man * pages and am still unclear on exactly what I need to do. * * I have two idential SCSI drives, sd0 & sd1. Right now the OS * is installed on sd0 and I have done nothing to sd1. I'm afraid you are somewhat misunderstanding the way ccd mirroring works. Despite the name, ccd actually concatenates disk partitions, not disks themselves. The result of concatenation is a meta-device that looks like a disk, which you can further partition up by editing the disklabel. As far as I can tell, there are two ways to accomplish what you want to do. One is to mirror every partition you want as a separate ccd, and the other is to first create a mega-partition that is the size of everything except root & swap (more on this later) and divide this thing up into pieces. I'll give you an example on how to do the latter. The strategy here is to first create a 1-disk ccd on sd1, partition it up, copy everything you need onto it from sd0, then set up a 2-disk ccd with mirroring using both disks. Beware, I'm not sure at all if this will work, so make a backup of your system before you try this! * 1. recompile a new kernel with 'pseudo-device ccd 4' ? Yes. The ccd lkm unfortunately doesn't work right now. * 2. use dd to copy the contents of sd0 to sd1? (do I need * to use disklabel,partition first?) If we were just interested in copying things from one disk to another identical one, I'd say "dd if=/dev/rsd0 of=/dev/rsd1" should probably work, although I have never copied anything larger than a single partition myself. However, there is a little problem here: a filesystem on a regular partition is not the same as that on a ccd on the same partition. The ccd partition needs its own disklabel and such, so the start of the filesystem is shifted back somewhat. What I recommend would be like: (1) dd if=/dev/rsd0 of=/dev/rsd1 bs=512 count=100 This should copy the fdisk table and disklabel to sd1. The number "100" is arbirtary, I'm not sure how many is needed here. (2) disklabel -e sd1 Edit the disklabel, subtract the size of "c" from the offset of "e" (or "d" or whatever the first partition after "c" is), and use that as the size of the new "e" partition. For instance, if your partition table looked like this: 7 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 65536 0 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 4*) b: 262144 65536 swap # (Cyl. 4*- 20*) c: 4199697 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 261*) e: 32768 327680 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 20*- 22*) f: 196608 360448 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 22*- 34*) g: 3642641 557056 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 34*- 261*) You should change it to: 5 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 65536 0 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 4*) b: 262144 65536 swap # (Cyl. 4*- 20*) c: 4199697 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 261*) e: 3872017 327680 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 20*- 22*) ^^^^^^^ = 4199697 - 327680 (The number of partitions is actually the index of the last partition.) Also, don't worry about the cylinder numbers, they are comments and disklabel will fix them up for you. * 3. create the /etc/ccd.conf file with CCDF_MIRROR flag? Yes. This is what it eventually should look like: ccd0 128 CCDF_MIRROR /dev/sd0e /dev/sd1e ^^^ The interleave size shouldn't really matter, we are mirroring only two disks.... * 4. now run ccdconfig, creating device ccd0? ccdconfig won't create the devices. Use /dev/MAKEDEV to create them. "sh ./MAKEDEV ccd0" will create /dev/ccd0* and /dev/rccd0*, etc. ccdconfig is automatically run from /etc/rc if you have a /etc/ccd.conf file on your system. Now, this is what you need to do now. Remember we need to copy everything onto the 1-disk ccd on sd1 first. (1) create /etc/ccd.conf with the entry ccd0 128 0 /dev/sd1e (2) create a 1-disk ccd ccdconfig -Cv (3) edit the disklabel disklabel -wr ccd0 auto disklabel -e ccd0 Now, remember how the disklabel looked like before? # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] ... e: 32768 327680 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 20*- 22*) f: 196608 360448 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 22*- 34*) g: 3642641 557056 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 34*- 261*) Take these numbers, subtract "327680" from all the offsets, and write that as the new disklabel: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] ... e: 32768 0 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 20*- 22*) f: 196608 32768 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 22*- 34*) g: 3642641 229376 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 34*- 261*) You will also need to decrement the size of the last partition to make the whole thing fit into the size of "c". I'm not exactly sure what it's going to be, it will be a few dozen sectors less than the 3872017 we gave as the size of the whole thing. So, make sure that size(g) + offset(g) = size(c). (4) Create filesystems newfs /dev/ccd0e newfs /dev/ccd0f newfs /dev/ccd0g (5) Mount them Assuming these three partitions are mounted as /var, /usr and /a on sd0: mkdir /mnt/var /mnt/usr /mnt/a mount -o async /dev/ccd0e /mnt/var mount -o async /dev/ccd0f /mnt/usr mount -o async /dev/ccd0g /mnt/a The "-o async" mounts the drives asynchronously, which is dangerous for normal use but should be ok for this situation. It's much faster. (6) Copy the stuff over cd /var; find -x . | cpio -pmV /mnt/var cd /usr; find -x . | cpio -pmV /mnt/usr cd /a; find -x . | cpio -pmV /mnt/a * 5. is ccd0 now my device with the original filesystem installed, * except now I am mirrored? Not yet. :) Now we need to boot with root/swap from sd0 and the rest from ccd0 (sd1), and then copy the stuff back to sd0. It will be like this: (1) vi /etc/fstab Change "/dev/sd0e" to "/dev/ccd0e", etc. Don't touch the references to sd0a and sd0b! Actually, you can add a new line so that it says /dev/sd0b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/sd1b none swap sw 0 0 if you want to use the "b" partition of both disks as swap. (2) reboot The system should now come up with something like this: % mount /dev/sd0a on / (local) /dev/ccd0e on /var (local) /dev/ccd0f on /usr (local) /dev/ccd0g on /a (local) procfs on /proc (local) In addition, "pstat -s" will show both sd0b and sd1b if you added sd1b as swap. (3) edit sd0's disklabel Do a "disklabel -e sd0" and make it look identical to sd1. Now it should have sd0a, sd0b, sd0c (the whole disk) and one big partition (sd0e in our example). (4) copy stuff over to sd0 dd if=/dev/rsd1e of=/dev/rsd0e bs=65536 (5) vi /etc/ccd.conf Change it to ccd0 128 CCDF_MIRROR /dev/sd0e /dev/sd1e (6) reboot Pray it works. ;) * 6. by default, I think the system will boot from sd0. If sd0 fails, * how do I get the system to boot from sd1, will it automatically * check for a valid system there? Unfortunately, I don't think you can boot from a concatenated disk. The ccdconfig utility is run from /etc/rc, after the root partition is mounted (read-only), so any filesystem other than root should work fine. (You can even swap to a ccd if you want, the "swapon -a" is after ccdconfig in /etc/rc. ;) Of course you probably want to keep a copy of the root partition as well, so maybe you can run a find -x | cpio from cron or something. I think the easiest way to be able to boot from sd1 when sd0 goes bad would be to install the boot manager. That way you can select "disk 2" to boot from the second disk easily. Assuming you have maintained a copy of sd0a in sd1a, you should be able to boot from there. Of course, if sd0 goes totally bad and you have to take it out, sd1 will now become sd0 so it will boot from there. ;) Beware, ccd doesn't automatically check if a disk is valid, so you will have to boot the system with -s and edit the ccd.conf file to use only one disk if one of the two goes bad. Also, if you did the find -x | cpio from cron, fstab will say root is sd0a so if the (bad) sd0 is still in the system and you are booting from sd1, you have to change it to sd1a (and take out the sd0b reference as well). * 7. how do I test if ccd is working? Write something to /usr/tmp, and see lights on both disks flash. :) * Thanks in advance for your help. I will compile any responses I * get for possible inclusion in the handbook. Well, I'm not sure if this was the kind of answer you wanted, but this is what I *think* should work. Again, no guarantees, and if you don't understand the phrase "boot the system with -s", you may not want to go this far. ;) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 16:36:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA26317 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26310 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id cg27966; 20 Jul 96 0:22 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26220; 19 Jul 96 23:36 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA12683; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:54:30 GMT Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:54:30 GMT Message-Id: <199607192154.VAA12683@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: snapkwl@anubis.network.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9607191420.AA29883@anubis.network.com> (snapkwl@anubis.network.com) Subject: Re: Supported Configurations Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> snapkwl@anubis.network.com (William L. Snapko) writes: > > In considering the FreeBSD product for my use, I ran across the section in the > 2.1.5R release notes that talks about supported configurations. The statement is made > you support PCs "ranging from 386sx to Pentium Pro class machines" but the statement > is made "(though the 386sx is not recommended)." Why is the 386sx not on the > recommended list? The 386SX does work, it's just very slow (especially as they often only support 4MB of RAM, which is the very minimum for running FreeBSD). >Is there a more complete list of supported machines? If so, where > could I look at it? Go to http://www.freebsd.org/, follow the documentation link until you get to the Handbook, and then read the section entitled "Jordan's picks", which is a list of recommended hardware. As a quick rule of thumb, pay the extra for SCSI if you can afford it, go for as much RAM as possible and a nice big disk, but don't worry too much about getting the latest and greatest CPU. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 16:38:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA26422 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26417 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ad28328; 20 Jul 96 0:29 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26554; 19 Jul 96 23:37 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA03733; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:34:10 GMT Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:34:10 GMT Message-Id: <199607192034.UAA03733@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: tjfs@tadpole.co.uk CC: davidg@root.com, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607191325.OAA29058@sirius.tadpole.co.uk> (message from Tim Steele on Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:25:08 +0100 (BST)) Subject: Re: Great stuff so far Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Tim Steele writes: [snip - sorry, I don't know anything about 3COM cards] > As far as reconfiguring the kernel is concerned, as this is my first > install I don't have a running BSD system to compare it with, so I > guess I can't do that. There's instructions on doing this in the Handbook (at http://www.freebsd.org/, or in file://localhost/usr/share/doc/handbook/handbook.html if you ever get your system up :-) > Any chance of supporting the 3C589 in a future release? or can I do > this myself by constructing a new install disk (once I've got it working)? Building your own install disk is possible, although not quite as simple as it might sound - you basically need to install the complete source, "make world" and then "make release" in the appropriate directory (this takes up a lot of disk space!) Going back to one of your earlier questions, the very minimum I would recommend is the binaries (mandatory), manpages, kernel source (ssys.* in the src distribution) and, if desired, the X distribution. HTH -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 16:52:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27003 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26997 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ah28017; 20 Jul 96 0:22 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26527; 19 Jul 96 23:37 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA03726; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:23:45 GMT Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:23:45 GMT Message-Id: <199607192023.UAA03726@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: zgabor@code.hu CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, 74361.2505@compuserve.com In-reply-to: <199607181443.OAA00410@CoDe.CoDe.hu> (message from Gabor Zahemszky on Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:43:17 +0000 (GMT)) Subject: Re: CRYPT & Restricted Shell Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > RESTRICTED Shell-Where can I obtain a restricted shell for FreeBSD_2.1. A shell > > that supports "sh -r " or a "rsh" similar to Solaris. This type shell will not > > allow "cd" and many other commands. > > I don't know about the normal sh, but pdksh (from the ports, or from > ftp.cs.mun.ca/pub/pdksh) has this feature. To be more explicit:- 1. Install pdksh port/package. 2. "cd /usr/local/bin; ln -s ksh rksh" 3. Use vipw or chsh to change the user's shell to /usr/local/bin/rksh. (I stumbled across this in the ksh man page earlier today. Apologies to all the people who I told it couldn't be done :-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 16:53:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27049 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com (root@chain.iafrica.com [196.31.1.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA27040 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chain.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA04654; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:52:45 +0200 (SAT) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:52:45 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: "Mike K." cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble Running Top In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Mike K. wrote: >If I run it as root, it runs fine. Below are the properties of /dev/mem >crw-r----- 1 root kmem 2, 0 Jul 19 05:38 mem What are the permissions of top on your machine ? On mine : -rwxr-sr-x 1 root kmem 43033 Jul 17 08:58 /usr/local/bin/top The permissions for mem look fine : crw-r----- 1 root kmem 2, 0 May 18 23:05 /dev/mem Khetan Gajjar. --- UUNet-Internet Africa 0800-030-002 (help@iafrica.com) http://www.iafrica.com/~khetan/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 16:53:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27092 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27081 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id fm27966; 20 Jul 96 0:28 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26469; 19 Jul 96 23:36 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA11267; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:44:27 GMT Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:44:27 GMT Message-Id: <199607192144.VAA11267@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: john@zyqad.co.uk CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9607191635.AA31359@zyqad.co.uk> (message from John Richards on Fri, 19 Jul 96 17:34:59 +0100) Subject: Re: Questions following new 2.1.0R installation Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> John Richards writes: > > 1. When I boot I get as far as the bit that says it is starting 'sendmail' and > then it sticks. I have set up sysconfig to not start sendmail yet this still > happens. What gives? I get past this point by hitting Cntl-C. Probably waiting for a nameserver query to time out. > 2. Probably related to 1. When I log in through xdm it pauses for a long time > before letting me in. Ditto when I start emacs, netscape. I think this must be > because it is trying to check with something like a nameserver? Yep! Edit your /etc/host.conf to read hosts bind (in that order) and put entries for localhost and your hostname in /etc/hosts. While you're in /etc, comment out the route_multicast and route_loopback lines, which will fix the first problem > 3. I'm trying to get my USR 28.8 external modem working. I've read the > handbook and the FAQ but my problem is that when I do a 'tip modem' t says that > /dev/cuaa1 is locked. Yet I can do a 'cu -l /dev/cuaa1 -s 57600' and get > connected to the serial port. Having got connected to the serial port I get no > feedback from the modem. I type 'AT'; I see nothing on the screen no AT > no OK nothing. Yet I do know that the modem receives what I send 'cos > ATDT9549666 dials my service provider who responds and accepts a login - well > I'm assuming the last 'cos I can't see what's happening. Where have I gone > wrong?? My settings are IRQ3 and 0x2f8 for the com port and even DOS agrees. I don't know anything about tip and cu - there's some useful-looking in the FAQ though (file://localhost/usr/share/doc/FAQ/freebsd-faq.html). > 4. If I set up user PPP, or the other one (kernel?) will I still need a dialer > program? Nope, user PPP (aka iijppp) has a built-in dialler and kernel PPP (aka pppd) meshes nicely with chat(8). > That will do for now as until I get past these I can't get any further wit hwhat > I want to do. I'm not certain that 3 shouldn't be addressed to the hardware > list. No, this is probably the right place. The hardware list is more for questions like "What motherboard works best with FreeBSD?". > Thanks to Jordan and the team for all the work. Keep it up some of us really > appreciate it. You're welcome! -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 16:55:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27200 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com (root@chain.iafrica.com [196.31.1.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA27191 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chain.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA04627; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:50:20 +0200 (SAT) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:50:19 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: "k.k phang" cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: D-Link DN220 support ? In-Reply-To: <01BB75C4.B5D69780@j8.jrc4.jaring.my> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, k.k phang wrote: >I did search for the mailing list but can't find anything about this >card, can anyone give me some clues. Thanks in advance. I've got a DE220, and am running it in NE2000 mode quite happily in -current and was doing so in -stable and -release. Khetan Gajjar. --- http://www.iafrica.com/~khetan/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 17:10:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA27991 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM (THOR.INNOSOFT.COM [192.160.253.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27984 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:10:45 -0700 (PDT) From: ZOUNDS@INNOSOFT.COM Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #8694) id <01I79J1DP4DC8Y51A5@INNOSOFT.COM> for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Pthreads? To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01I79JBLDDLE8Y51A5@INNOSOFT.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are pthreads implamented into the 2.1.5-release and what is the revision number relative to versions for say digital unix 4.0? If not, are they or will they ever be implamented? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 17:19:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA28407 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franklin.cris.com (franklin.cris.com [199.3.12.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA28395 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darius.cris.com (darius [199.3.12.32]) by franklin.cris.com (8.7.5/(96/06/11 2.45)) id UAA17023; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:18:40 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from nirvana (cnc802214.concentric.net [206.173.113.214]) by darius.cris.com (8.7.5) id TAA04483; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 19:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31F01CC6.2781E494@cris.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 19:39:50 -0400 From: Trip Man Organization: nirvana X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: My kernel will not compile.. X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook48.html#kernelconfig:trouble Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------15FB7483794BDF32446B9B3D" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------15FB7483794BDF32446B9B3D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi.. Here is my kernel configuration... I ran /usr/sbin/./config NIRVANA in the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf dir. It was sucessful. I did ../../compile/NIRVANA Make depend was sucsessful. then, once I do MAKE.. right when it says "Running kernel" It stop and gives an error.. I have attached my NIRVANA config file. Thanks, I hope you can figure out what is wrong.. --------------15FB7483794BDF32446B9B3D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="NIRVANA" # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.46.2.6 1995/10/25 17:29:51 jkh Exp $ # machine "i386" cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" ident NIRVANA maxusers 10 options GNU_MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options "SCSI_DELAY=15" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM controller scbus0 device sd0 device st0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console #device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210" # pcvt running on FreeBSD 2.1 options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 controller snd0 device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device de0 pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device #pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's --------------15FB7483794BDF32446B9B3D-- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 17:24:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA28749 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA28744 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA17978; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:24:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Trip Man cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: My kernel will not compile.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 Jul 1996 19:39:50 EDT." <31F01CC6.2781E494@cris.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:24:13 -0400 Message-ID: <17975.837822253@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Trip Man wrote in message ID <31F01CC6.2781E494@cris.com>: > hi.. Here is my kernel configuration... > > I ran /usr/sbin/./config NIRVANA in the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf dir. > It was sucessful. > I did ../../compile/NIRVANA > Make depend was sucsessful. > then, once I do MAKE.. right when it says "Running kernel" > It stop and gives an error.. The error would have been useful.... But the problem likely is that you don't have the `npx0' device in your kernel, which is necessary for ANY sort of math support, be it a co-processor or an emulator. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 17:30:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA28965 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA28960 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa29837; 20 Jul 96 1:13 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa09524; 20 Jul 96 1:10 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA17085; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:09:05 GMT Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:09:05 GMT Message-Id: <199607200009.AAA17085@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: root@quebecweb.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607192210.SAA00140@quebecweb.com> (message from Mario Verville on Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:10:09 -0400) Subject: Re: Big Problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Mario Verville writes: > > Fatal trap: page fault while in Kernel mode > > Fault address: 0xf040f00 > > Fault Code: supervisor read, page not present As you said you are using a 386, I suspect you have probably run out of memory. Try adding some more (if you can) or creating a larger swap partition. It may also be worth upgrading from 2.0 - the latest version is 2.1.5, which contains a lot of bug fixes. > I know my service provider was supposed to > change the bandwidth. Could it be the problem? No. I would be very surprised if anything your ISP did would cause your machine to panic :-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 17:52:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA29583 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA29563 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA15310; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607200050.RAA15310@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Paisley, Todd G." cc: Doug White , FreeBSD Subject: Re: 3com 3C590 PCI ethernet card In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:18:00 PDT." <31EFD1FA@smtpgw.missi.ncsc.mil> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:50:58 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I must have VIRTUAL plug & play then. It never found the ethernet card. We >upgraded the video and SCSI card to PCI as well and during the boot up, it >finds these cards just fine, but not the 3Com card. Didn't you say that this was FreeBSD 2.1.0 you're installing? If so, the 3c590 isn't supported in 2.1.0. It is supported in the (final :-)) release of 2.1.5, however. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 17:54:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA00213 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franklin.cris.com (franklin.cris.com [199.3.12.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00202 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darius.cris.com (darius [199.3.12.32]) by franklin.cris.com (8.7.5/(96/06/11 2.45)) id UAA13001; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:54:04 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from default (cnc025041.concentric.net [206.173.64.41]) by darius.cris.com (8.7.5) id SAA11757; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31F00C82.384E@cris.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:30:26 -0400 From: IVIPER1 Reply-To: iviper1@cris.com Organization: CompuMain X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was wondering how to install FreeBSD when i went to the faq page it said it could not find FreeBSD install from ftp, and i already have win95 installed how do i run both, do i have to re-format my hd? Also what can you do with FreeBSD like how do you create an e-mail address or www site, how do i get on the networked internet from my modem? Where do i dial? Thanks Alot -- IVIPER1 a049752t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us iviper1@cris.com afn44762@afn.org Visit my web site: http://www.cris.com/~iviper1 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 18:00:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA00509 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00504 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id av28328; 20 Jul 96 0:31 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26454; 19 Jul 96 23:36 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA12740; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:00:15 GMT Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:00:15 GMT Message-Id: <199607192200.WAA12740@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: crs@hamlet.lanl.gov CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9607191725.AA07031@hamlet.lanl.gov.lanl.gov> (crs@hamlet.lanl.gov) Subject: Re: crypt sudo Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> crs@hamlet.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby) writes: > > Is there a port of sudo to FreeBSD that doesn't use crypt? I don't think it's in the ports collection. > I tried building it on my FreeBSD (2.1) box last night and it > complained about not being able to find crypt which, of course, > is no surprise. Is there a version around anywhere that uses > FreeBSD's alternative to crypt? Does adding '-lcrypt' to the linker command line not work? > What must I do to make FreeBSD compatible with sudo? > > I realize that I must find the DES stuff used in Unix. But > what all is involved? Presumeably, I must get all of that > stuff and install it (where can I find it and how much is > there?). I should think that, if I want sudo to be able to > use the regular user passwords then I must also convert > them from the normal form (MD5?) to DES form. Is this > process documented anywhere? How difficult (and time > consuming) is it? You can find the DES distribution on ftp://ftp.reebsd.org (as you're obviously a US resident, I don't need to repeat the usual lecture about not downloading it from overseas :-) However, I don't see that you need it. > Thanks for any help. I'd sure like to be able to use sudo to do simple > root things like mount and such without actually su-ing to root every > time. I prefer to spend as little time as root as possible. Hope this helps. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 18:01:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA00566 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00561 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ae01565; 20 Jul 96 1:59 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa10415; 20 Jul 96 1:21 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA17133; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:18:58 GMT Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:18:58 GMT Message-Id: <199607200018.AAA17133@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: flaq@synwork.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (flaq@synwork.com) Subject: Re: Trouble Running Top Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Mike K." writes: > > When I try to run top as a user, I get the following error: > [/home/flaq] :top > kvm_open: /dev/mem: Permission denied > [/home/flaq] : > > If I run it as root, it runs fine. Below are the properties of /dev/mem > > crw-r----- 1 root kmem 2, 0 Jul 19 05:38 mem > > Any idea how to fix this? No, that's how it should be - you don't want just anyone to be able to poke around in there, do you? :-) The $64 question is, what are the permissions on top? They should be -rwxr-sr-x 1 root kmem 36864 Jun 23 21:08 /usr/local/bin/top If not, use chmod and/or chown as appropriate. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 18:42:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA03007 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA03001 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ay28329; 20 Jul 96 0:30 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26154; 19 Jul 96 23:36 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA03861; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:19:30 GMT Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:19:30 GMT Message-Id: <199607192119.VAA03861@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: bala@cst.com.au CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607190705.RAA02664@skeg.cst.com.au> (message from Bala Periasamy on Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:05:56 +1000 (EST)) Subject: Re: Killing processes Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Bala Periasamy writes: > > How to kill processes in the "D" state. You can't. D Marks a process in disk (or other short term, uninter- ruptible) wait. > Sometime it just hangs in the system. Unless I reboot I can't get rid of > the processes. This is because the process has made a system call, the information it wanted wasn't available immediately and the kernel has put it to sleep until it does become available. This sleep can be interrupted, but this is usually only done if the delay is of unpredictable length (eg waiting for a keypress on the terminal - the user may be talking to a friend, or even have gone home and forgotten all about the program). For something like reading from a disk, it's assumed that the delay should only last a fraction of a second and that it's not worth waking up the process. If this is a program you wrote yourself, you can use siginterrupt(3) to change this behaviour. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 18:42:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA03037 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from su1.in.net (su1.in.net [199.0.62.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA03030 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jenny.in.net by su1.in.net with SMTP (5.65/1.2-eef) id AA06751; Fri, 19 Jul 96 20:39:21 -0400 Message-Id: <9607200039.AA06751@su1.in.net> From: "Jay Richmond" To: , Subject: Re: FreeBSD? Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:41:24 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I was wondering how to install FreeBSD when i went to the faq page it > said it could not find FreeBSD install from ftp, and i already have > win95 installed how do i run both, do i have to re-format my hd? Also > what can you do with FreeBSD like how do you create an e-mail address > or www site, how do i get on the networked internet from my modem? Where > do i dial? Thanks Alot There's documentation to cover every question you've asked. 1) There's a new tutorial on FreeBSD and other operating systems at http://www.in.net/~jayrich/doc/multios.html. You may find it useful. 2) The handbook and FAQ both contain numerous amounts of information on the installation and configuration of FreeBSD (http://www.freebsd.org). 3) As for an "e-mail address" and "www site," might I suggest a good standard UNIX book? --Jay jayrich@in.net From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 18:48:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA03290 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA03272 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA23824; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:42:43 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma023822; Sat Jul 20 01:42:42 1996 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA01990; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:42:41 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:42:41 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199607200142.SAA01990@meerkat.mole.org> To: af@biomath.jussieu.fr, wongm@lespoir.apana.org.au Subject: Re: [2.1R] ^C in telnet session kills the connection, why ? Cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > Hi, > > I'm having a problem when telnet from a HP-UX box into a FreeBSD 2.1R > > machine, typing ^C actually kills the telnet connection. Is there anything > > on telnet that one can set to prevent this from hapenning ? > > > > Telnet from the same host to a Sun box doesn't have this problem. > > > > Kind of a late reply, but I wanted to check... > I have tested telnet from HP-UX 9.07 and 10.10 to my 2.1-stable (pre-massive > commit) FreeBSD box and I have been unable to reproduce that. > Can you be more specific ? (versions, context) I have no problems between HP-UX 9.07, HP-UX 10.0, HP-RT 2.02 and FreeBSD 2.1R either direction with telnet. -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 19:04:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03895 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 19:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA03890 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 19:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id as00338; 20 Jul 96 1:26 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa09823; 20 Jul 96 1:14 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA17096; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:13:16 GMT Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:13:16 GMT Message-Id: <199607200013.AAA17096@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: andrew@wamnetrunner.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31F0192C.7E87@wamnetrunner.com> (message from Andrew Massias on Fri, 19 Jul 1996 19:24:28 -0400) Subject: Re: HELP!!!! SCSI Tape drive.... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Andrew Massias writes: Please don't spam. Mailing the same question to several different lists is not a good way to make friends and influence people. > Can anyone recommend to me a SCSI tape drive/driver combination that > will run reliably with FreeBSD 2.1.0 Generic? I hear the HP Superstore range is well thought of (the tape drives, not the hard disks!) FreeBSD has very good support for both the Adaptec 2940 and NCR families of SCSI controllers. > Id settle for an IDE tape if it could run with no sweat. I didn't even know there were such things. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 21:14:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA11694 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hera.cwi.nl (hera.cwi.nl [192.16.191.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA11684 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.cwi.nl by hera.cwi.nl with SMTP id ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:14:04 +0200 Received: by zeus-184.cwi.nl id ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:14:16 +0200 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:14:16 +0200 From: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl Message-Id: <9607200414.AA09748=aeb@zeus-184.cwi.nl> To: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl, jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Re: installation fails Cc: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" > I just tried to install 2.1.5-RELEASE. > At the point where the actual installation is to begin > (I suspect: the first moment the ethernet card is actually used) > I get the text (I tried twice) > Fatal signal 11 caught! I'm dead .. > and indeed, FreeBSD is dead. Can you tell me the very last thing it did successfully? I used novice install, got twice in an fdisk-like program - maybe once to cut a partition into slices and once to select mount points - I just took the defaults - got a menu to tell about IP-number and hostname, and maybe that was the last. [But don't trust my bad memory.] Maybe I can ask a question: In the meantime I tried a different approach and wrote 2.1.5-RELEASE to a SCSI tape and installed from there. The installation process was more or less successful; it complained `couldn't extract compat1x compat20 commerce xperimnt' even while this release did contain subdirectories commerce and xperimnt (and compat21). I also got a `unable to fetch samba-1.9.15p8' (or sth very similar). One very funny point was that at the point where I had to give my local time the digit 7 did not work (but 6 and 8 did) - very strange. One point in the installation procedure consisted of the question whether a boot manager should be installed. I have a rather delicate setup with 3 IDE and 3 SCSI disks, and as far as I can see there is no information at all about the precise properties or configuration of this boot manager, so I answered No. But now I find that I have no means to boot this installed system! The fixit floppy is not a boot floppy - booting from it leads to an attempt at destroying my floppy reader - instead of halting, the system gets into an infinite boot cycle. And the install floppy, which is a boot floppy, doesn't seem to offer the opportunity to start the just installed system. So my present question is: is there a way to let the installation procedure make a boot floppy that boots a given partition? Or can I ftp somewhere a working boot floppy? Or can I escape from the install procedure of the install floppy? [Under Linux I have a root filesystems on the fourth and fifth disks but kernel images on the first or second disk so that LILO or OS/2 BM can find it, and the kernel is booted with parameter root=/dev/sdb3, for example. I hope that it is not required that FreeBSD lives on the first or second disk.] All the best - Andries From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 21:31:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA12636 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12631 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA18320; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:32:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:32:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: secure distribution Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I accidentally supped the -current secure distribution on one of our machines and the system is now running using DES encryption. Is there anyway to go back to the MD5 distribution since I think all the passwords are now DES... Vince From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 22:35:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA15442 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts17-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.230]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA15431 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00258; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:35:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Chris Walsh cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3c589, 2.1.0-RELEASE, ThinkPad 701, zp driver In-Reply-To: <199607191431.JAA02564@bigstar.eecs.nwu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Chris Walsh wrote: > I have a TP701CS, and a 3com 3c589C combo (10BaseT and BNC) PCMCIA card. ^ Uh oh. The C requires a driver update. Does anyone know if 2.1.5-R has the C update? (The 3c589 and 589b work okay) > zp: found card in slot 0 > zp0: not found at 0x300 Is the card itself configured for those parameters from 3c589cfg.exe? Note if you have Card Services running on your DOS box then it will rewrite the settings. My better guess is that the driver wasn't updated for 2.1.5-R. It is in -current. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 22:45:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA16151 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts17-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.230]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA16137 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00269; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:44:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: RYAN DARBY cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot find root image when installing FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <0119114070718345*@MHS> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, RYAN DARBY wrote: > Thank you very much for your help with my query as to how to remove the boot man > ager from my failed instalation of FreeBSD 2.0.5. I removed it sucessfully. > I also found that my disk geometry was wrong, and have reset it. What happened was that FreeBSD's geometry reading was wrong. Try making a small DOS partition on that disk, then delete it when you go into the fdisk editor during sysinstall. > However, > although the instalation appears to work, it gets to when the root image > is looked for. I have an IDE CD-ROM, and am thus installing off my first > drive, which is MSDOS. Both disk drives are IDE. The install program > looks at the first drive partition, says it cannot find anything and then > tries the floppy. Hm. You said you were on 2.0.5? Have you tried 2.1.0, which includes ATAPI support? Your CD may be detected, and that would make things sooo much easer. Or wait some time for the 2.1.5 CDs to be pressed, and then buy and try that. I have copied accross the Z:\DISTS/BIN directory and > the Z:\FLOPPIES directory to c:\FREEBSD. I also made, using the make a floppy > batch program on the CDROM a boot floppy with root.flp and boot.flp on it. > This does not seem acceptable. When I exit and look at what I presume is > the debugger has left on the screen, I see a message like the files on the > floppy were not gzip format. Hm. That would indicate some sort of corruption or missing files. Your DOS partition may be a situation where the MSDOSFS code can get confused. > Otherwise, the booteasy works, but when I select the FREEBSD drive, it just > gives me a boot prompt. Here, as you advised I enter wd(1,a)/kernel. This > is not found, and another prompt comes up. Try just hitting there, taking the default, and see what you get. Of course it won't boot unless you can get the installation to finish. > I am presuming that it does not work as when the installation could not find > what it wanted it stopped, and the missing root contained the kernel? > Is it at all possible to advise me as to how I can fix this? I am new to > Freebsd/UNIX, and would be most grateful for all your help. There is a root/boo > t floppy mentioned in the on cd documentation, but I only have two cdroms, the > installation one and a live file system. Hm. I wonder if you can try using the 2.1 or 2.1.5 boot floppies to install 2.0.5. Then you could get your CD supported. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 22:58:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA16817 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts17-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.230]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA16811; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00282; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:58:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: installation fails In-Reply-To: <9607200414.AA09748=aeb@zeus-184.cwi.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 20 Jul 1996 Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl wrote: > In the meantime I tried a different approach and wrote > 2.1.5-RELEASE to a SCSI tape and installed from there. > The installation process was more or less successful; > it complained `couldn't extract compat1x compat20 commerce xperimnt' > even while this release did contain subdirectories > commerce and xperimnt (and compat21). Did you put them on the tape? They aren't consequential so I wouldn't get too worried. You can just install them later if you need them. > I also got a `unable to fetch samba-1.9.15p8' (or sth very similar). Network problem or a change in file. Try pulling the port from ftp.freebsd.org and building again. If you have to, the original distfile is in ports-2.1.5/distfiles. > One very funny point was that at the point where I had to give my > local time the digit 7 did not work (but 6 and 8 did) - very strange. Don't believe the timezone selector. Believe date(1). > One point in the installation procedure consisted of the question > whether a boot manager should be installed. I have a rather > delicate setup with 3 IDE and 3 SCSI disks, and as far as I can > see there is no information at all about the precise properties > or configuration of this boot manager, so I answered No. > > But now I find that I have no means to boot this installed system! Well, you didn't install a boot manager! :-) You can put it back on yourself. Grab "bootinst.exe" and 'boot.bin' from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/tools/. > The fixit floppy is not a boot floppy - booting from it leads to > an attempt at destroying my floppy reader - instead of halting, > the system gets into an infinite boot cycle. > And the install floppy, which is a boot floppy, doesn't seem to > offer the opportunity to start the just installed system. No. You have to boot the boot floppy first, then jump to the fixit from there (there is a "fixit" option on the main menu). > So my present question is: is there a way to let the installation > procedure make a boot floppy that boots a given partition? > Or can I ftp somewhere a working boot floppy? > Or can I escape from the install procedure of the install floppy? Not without rebuilding the entire system. Try to get the boot manager working first. > [Under Linux I have a root filesystems on the fourth and fifth > disks but kernel images on the first or second disk so that > LILO or OS/2 BM can find it, and the kernel is booted with > parameter root=/dev/sdb3, for example. I hope that it is not > required that FreeBSD lives on the first or second disk.] The OS/2 boot manager should pick it up no problem as long as you've told it about it in OS/2 FDISK. I use it here and it works stupendously. Note that booting from a third IDE disk is impossible (well, maybe not with OS/2 Boot Manager, it can do some pretty amazing stuff). I don't know about booting from other SCSI disks, whether the boot ROMs will map it out okay. (I doubt it :( ) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 23:00:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA16940 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts17-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.230]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA16935 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00290; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:00:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Joe McGuckin cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPX? In-Reply-To: <199607191919.MAA11707@ns.via.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Joe McGuckin wrote: > Does FreeBSD support IPX? Is there any work going in in that area? I *think* it can route it. But IPX isn't a very routable protocol, so ? > I'd really like to be able to gateway TCP/IP to IPX/SPX... Ouch. IPX is such a mess I don't think I'd want to touch it, much less try to gateway a superior protocol (TCP) to it. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 23:05:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA17083 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts17-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.230]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA17078 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00297; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:05:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: garman@phs.k12.ar.us cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More results on my problem... (was: Network weirdness?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Try to keep the cc: to questions. I'm flailing in space here. On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Jason Garman wrote: > > WARNING: Loooooong note follows :-) Hopefully this will clarify some of my > problems... > > Here's some of the names I use... and their equivalent addresses: > > jason.garman.net 192.168.1.1 > art.garman.net 192.168.1.2 > garman-net 192.168.1.0 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > localhost localhost UH 0 0 lo0 > garman-net jason UCSc 0 0 eg0 the eg0 could possibly be it. can you run 'ifconfig eg0' and post the output? Have you tried a different ethernet card, like a cheap NE2000? > Jul 19 15:55:25 jason /kernel: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo for > 192.168.1.1 This points to a routing problem. I don't think Windoze machines ping. Do they? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 23:06:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA17132 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.teledesic.com ([206.213.86.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA17126 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.teledesic.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id XAA13600 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:05:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199607200605.XAA13600@orion.teledesic.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 23:05:47 -0700 From: Hans-Werner Braun X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.12 (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 3C586 X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On my laptop I tried 2.1.5, but the boot floppy does not find the 3C589 PCMCIA Ethernet card. Any idea what I could be doing wrong? This is a Compaq LTE 5300. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 23:09:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA17252 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts17-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.230]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA17247 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00301; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:08:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Gabor Zahemszky cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new features in 2.1.5 In-Reply-To: <199607191507.PAA00367@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Gabor Zahemszky wrote: > Are there > ibcs ELF-loader? No. > linux ELF-loader? Not in 2.1.5, yes in -current. > bsdi 2.x loader? Yes. 2.0 at least. > And another one: i've heard so much about devfs. What's that? A non-filesystem based device heirarchy. It's still under development in -current. The idea is that devices could be configured on the fly and added/removed as necessary. Something like that. :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 23:10:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA17325 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA17320 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA16779; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:08:53 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199607200608.XAA16779@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: tacacs & radius To: shovey@buffnet.net (Stephen Hovey) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Stephen Hovey at "Jul 19, 96 08:06:49 am" Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Stephen Hovey wrote: > has anyone got any experience using tacacs and/or radius under freebsd? > Anything of note to know if one wants to do this? I don't remember doing anything complicated when I ported the Livingston, Ascend, and Net Express versions of RADIUS. All of which I run daily on -current. > Im particularly interested in hearing experiences with ascend products > flavor - Im looking and them for term servers etc and the docs say they > use radius. Ascend introduced 2 bugs when "modifying" the reference version from Livingston. One, I've figured out and corrected, the other I have a work around for but haven't found yet. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com Archie Bunker on Gun Control: Would you rather they were pushed out a window? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 23:18:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA17544 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts17-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.230]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA17539 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00319; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:18:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Reinhold Josef Huber cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with floppy drives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Reinhold Josef Huber wrote: > Hi all! > > I have the following problem accessing my 3.5" floppy drive: > > Reading works perfectly with mtools and if the floppy is mounted. > > Dut if I try to write to floppy with mtools or by writing on the mounted > diskette, I get the message: > > /dev/fd0 device timeout Check cabling and the disk. If the disk is bad it might put out this message. > I get the same message when trying to unmount the floppy, I guess umount > tries to write some buffers. That is true. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 23:23:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA17759 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts17-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.230]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA17754 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00330; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:23:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Veggy Vinny cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: secure distribution In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Veggy Vinny wrote: > I accidentally supped the -current secure distribution on one of > our machines and the system is now running using DES encryption. Is > there anyway to go back to the MD5 distribution since I think all the > passwords are now DES... I believe -current has a "amorphous" crypt library so it should be able to deal with the passwords either way. Just to be sure, make sure the console is "insecure" before you reboot next time. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 23:25:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA17843 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts17-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.230]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA17838 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00326; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:22:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:22:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Eloy A. Paris" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Script run at shutdown? In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960719112832.3e671e4c@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Eloy A. Paris wrote: > Is there any way to run a script at shutdown, like after invoking the > commands shutdown, reboot or halt? Not really, that I know of. You could build a shell script that does what you need then runs shutdown. > In Linux you can do so in the script rc.0 which takes care of unmounting > file systems and maintenance stuff like that. The act of shutting down takes care of all that. > I need this because the very last thing I want to do after the system is > ready to die is to tell my UPS to kill power to preserve batteries. Someone asked about this already. If the UPS can "kill power" without turning off the power to the system, then you could use a script. But if that actually flips the power switch then hm. Why would your UPS burn batteries if the computer is turned off? UPSs should _never_ be turned off as it'll keep the batteries fresh & tested. Turning it off would allow the batteries to drain. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 23:26:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA17900 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts17-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.230]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA17894 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00337; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:25:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: YUEN Nancy Pui cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TEAC CD55a CD ROM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, YUEN Nancy Pui wrote: > I recently bought FreeBSD 2.1 at Comdex'96. I just realized that it > doesn't support the TEAC CD55a 4X CD ROM, which is the one I have. Is > there a way around this problem? Do other versions of UNIX support this > CD ROM? I doubt it. Teac won't release the specs to that drive. So the best you can hope for is DOS/Windows and OS/2 support. I dumped mine for a SCSI Plextor 4x+ and a NCR controller. Much nicer setup IMHO. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 23:26:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA17930 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA17925 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA23883; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:27:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:27:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: secure distribution In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Veggy Vinny wrote: > > > I accidentally supped the -current secure distribution on one of > > our machines and the system is now running using DES encryption. Is > > there anyway to go back to the MD5 distribution since I think all the > > passwords are now DES... > > I believe -current has a "amorphous" crypt library so it should be able to > deal with the passwords either way. > > Just to be sure, make sure the console is "insecure" before you reboot > next time. Hmmm, the thing is I did this awhile back and didn't notice it until now so maybe secure doesn't hurt but MD5 seems harder for people to use crack on... Vince From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 23:29:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA18093 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.orbonline.net (ns.orbonline.net [204.50.18.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA18085 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asafari.orbonline.net (99.gil.orbonline.net [204.50.18.99]) by ns.orbonline.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA28554 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:29:48 -0400 Message-ID: <31F07E18.4032@orbonline.net> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:35:04 -0400 From: Artin Safari Organization: Pagemaster X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Serial Port Problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Guys, I just recently installed FreeBSD but I have to disable all the COM ports. As soon as the OS begins probing these ports, the screen goes blank, all disk activity stops and after a few seconds, the monitor goes into standby mode. Have you seen anything like this before. I am dying to get X-Windows going but I can't because I cannot install my mouse. Please help Artin From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 23:33:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA18307 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts17-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.230]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA18301 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00345; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:33:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:33:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Jim Dennis cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: text = 0xe3000 - -- and locks: Why? In-Reply-To: <199607192242.PAA00328@starshine> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Jim Dennis wrote: > I did figure out at least part of the problem. All I had > to do was change this machine's CMOS setup value for > "Scratch RAM" (which I guess was AMI's term for XBDA or EBDA -- > "extended BIOS data area" back in '90). Hm. Your explanation of this reminds me of a discussion a while back that touched on the same idea, where a BIOS would suck up 1k of system RAM to store the IDE data. I think it as Dave and Jordan talking about the biosboot system, but it's interesting that FreeBSD trips on it. File that one away... > This allowed me to install "Minimal" on the wd0 drive and > boot successfully off of it. Cool. > I still can't boot sd(1,a) or sd(0,a) or hd(1,a) in any > variation. I haven't tried a fresh install over there > although I might, later. Interesting. They may just need to be reinstalled from scratch. Note that some BIOSs will only map the first two disks in the system and only allow you to boot from those disks. That is a BIOS limitation on the number of disks (0x80 and 0x81). > > Anyway. It looks like FreeBSD didn't like this machine's > default way of dealing with the XBDA (info about 2nd LPT > ports and 3rd and 4th serial ports IIRC). The options were > "use the BIOS stack area at 0000:0030" (???) -- the default, > or "use 1K of address space in 'conventional' memory" > (the option that works). That would be it. The BIOS Stack data bit was also mentioned in the above discussion as the real way the IDE data should have been placed. It all comes back :) > I haven't had to think about an XBDA in years. My guess > is that the system boot loader was overwriting part of > the XBDA while the processor was still in real mode (and > the software is dependant on the BIOS to drive the DMA) -- > and this was causing the lock up. Booting off the floppy > was probably overwriting the same area -- but that HD's > DMA was affected, not the floppy's -- by the time the > HD was needed the processor was in protected mode -- and > the kernel's 32-bit drivers are responsible for all I/O. I think it was that biosboot couldn't read the disk data, and so couldn't read the disk data to boot off of. Putting it at 1k is the old PC way and the way FreeBSD expects it. > Maybe I pick a different hobby. Collecting stamps? Spelunking? > ... Nah! :-) PCs: it isn't just a job, it's an adventure. :-) Glad you got it resolved. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 19 23:59:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA19412 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hera.cwi.nl (hera.cwi.nl [192.16.191.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA19407 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.cwi.nl by hera.cwi.nl with SMTP id ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 08:58:57 +0200 Received: by zeus-184.cwi.nl id ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 08:59:08 +0200 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 08:59:08 +0200 From: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl Message-Id: <9607200659.AA11018=aeb@zeus-184.cwi.nl> To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Subject: Re: installation fails Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > One very funny point was that at the point where I had to give my > local time the digit 7 did not work (but 6 and 8 did) - very strange. Don't believe the timezone selector. Believe date(1). I am saying that the keyboard did not echo the keystroke 7 but it did echo 6 and 8. Strange indeed. Some bug in a keymap? ... You can put it back on yourself. Grab "bootinst.exe" and 'boot.bin' from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/tools/. Did you read my question? FreeBSD has been installed on a partition on my fifth disk. Now how do I boot it? I boot Linux from partitions on my third, fourth, fifth and sixth disks by putting the appropriate kernels on the second disk and giving a root=/dev/xxx option. My question is: does FreeBSD have a comparable feature? And if so, how do I get at a kernel, given the fact that I need a FreeBSD system to read ufs file systems. The OS/2 boot manager should pick it up no problem as long as you've told it about it in OS/2 FDISK. I use it here and it works stupendously. It is impossible to tell OS/2 Warp 3.0 fdisk. It is possible to tell OS/2 Warp 2.99 beta II fdisk, but it doesnt work because BM cannot boot from the fifth disk. Andries From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 00:14:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA20940 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wasted.bandwidth.org (root@wasted.bandwidth.org [169.207.10.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20931; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (desmo@localhost) by wasted.bandwidth.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA12179; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:14:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:14:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenneth J Monville X-Sender: desmo@wasted To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: joerg@freebsd.org, desmo@bandwidth.org Subject: pcvt and backspace Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am currently using the pcvt option in the kernel for a number of reasons. I am having trouble with backspace working correctly. Most apps this isn't a problem, but in vi and using rxvt it doesn't work. If I hit the backspace key in vi it retuns '0x7f' and with rxvt it returns ~. The rxvt problem doesn't bother me, I use xterms. But vi is my editor of choice and having to ESC-x everytime to erase is a pain. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I have tried stty erase ^? and it still doesn't work. With the sco terminal option everything works fine, but I can't use that. :-( Thanks in advance, Ken P.S. Please keep me in the cc:, I don't subscribe to -questions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ken Monville - desmo@bandwidth.org - http://www.bandwidth.org/~desmo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 00:17:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA21265 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (root@cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.2.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA21239; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA21236; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 04:17:16 -0300 (EST) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199607200717.EAA21236@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: IPX? To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 04:17:16 -0300 (EST) Cc: joe@ns.via.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Doug White at "Jul 19, 96 11:00:07 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL14 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Doug White) // On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Joe McGuckin wrote: // // > Does FreeBSD support IPX? Is there any work going in in that area? // // I *think* it can route it. But IPX isn't a very routable protocol, so ? Well, the most used IPX routing protocol is RIP. The *same* RIP as implemented by routed. Of course, since IPX has been used only for local nets, there aren't as many wide area routing protocols as IP. Maybe NLSP is useful for metropolitan area. // > I'd really like to be able to gateway TCP/IP to IPX/SPX... // // Ouch. IPX is such a mess I don't think I'd want to touch it, much less // try to gateway a superior protocol (TCP) to it. Humm, Do you mean that FreeBSD's IPX implementation is a mess or that IPX protocol stack is a mess ? Hope you mean the first (I feel this too), because IPX is a datagram protocol just as bad as IP in definition. I'd love to make some changes to IPX kernel in FreeBSD, but I don't have enough time. One thing I want to change is @#@#%@^! I can't use different host (ethernet) adresses if I have more than one NIC. Even if I have just one NIC I can't assign a internal IPX number in a similar way as in NetWare servers. For example: ed0: 0x92A43F00.02:00:26:07:19:70 lo0: 0x92A43F04.00:00:00:00:00:01 A fast look in the kernel sources and I found a (ugh) global variable used for host addresses. This was in 2.2-960501-SNAP, if that matters. Jonny BTW: IP over IPX gateway is defined on the config file and has a source to be compiled. But the source has lots of #includes and ZERO lines of useful code. -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 ( Job ) jonny@cisi.coppe.ufrj.br Network Manager UFRJ/COPPE/CISI Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 00:48:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA24234 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA24229; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA22789; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:33:00 +1000 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:33:00 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199607200733.RAA22789@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl, dwhite@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu Subject: Re: installation fails Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com, questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> One point in the installation procedure consisted of the question >> whether a boot manager should be installed. I have a rather >> delicate setup with 3 IDE and 3 SCSI disks, and as far as I can >> see there is no information at all about the precise properties >> or configuration of this boot manager, so I answered No. >> >> But now I find that I have no means to boot this installed system! >Well, you didn't install a boot manager! :-) The existing one (whatever is used to boot all those disks) might work. It needs to load the secondary bootstrap in the usual place (0x7c0:0 (?)) from the partition with FreeBSD on it, then load the %dl register with the drive number, then execute the secondary bootstrap. If this doesn't work, then any bootable disk, including the install floppy, can be used to boot almost any disk: hit the space bar to make the boot pause, then stare at the prompt to figure out or remind yourself of the syntax, then type the destination, which should look something like 5:sd(2,a)/kernel for the BIOS drive 5 of 0-5 and SCSI drive 2 of 0-2. Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 00:50:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA24374 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA24349; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA12495; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:50:40 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA25834; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:50:39 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id JAA03486; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:35:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607200735.JAA03486@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: installation fails To: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:35:23 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <9607200414.AA09748=aeb@zeus-184.cwi.nl> from "Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl" at "Jul 20, 96 06:14:16 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl wrote: > I have a rather > delicate setup with 3 IDE and 3 SCSI disks, and as far as I can > see there is no information at all about the precise properties > or configuration of this boot manager, so I answered No. > So my present question is: is there a way to let the installation > procedure make a boot floppy that boots a given partition? Not automatically, but you can manually boot. Assuming your FreeBSD root file system is on the second SCSI disk (sd1), insert the installation floppy, then say at the Boot: prompt: 4:sd(1,a)/kernel (The `4' means `5th BIOS disk'.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 01:20:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA26735 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA26725 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id KAA13052; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 10:20:49 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA25956; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 10:20:48 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id KAA03721; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 10:16:08 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607200816.KAA03721@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: pcvt and backspace To: desmo@bandwidth.org (Kenneth J Monville) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 10:16:08 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from Kenneth J Monville at "Jul 20, 96 02:14:23 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Kenneth J Monville wrote: > I am currently using the pcvt option in the kernel for a number of > reasons. I am having trouble with backspace working correctly. Most apps You can create an alternate keymap entry in /usr/share/misc/keycap.pcvt, and set the "<--" key so it generates ^H if you like this better. No common agreement could be reached to justify either version, so we decided to leave it as it is. > I have tried stty erase ^? and it still doesn't work. That's strange, since this is how i'm using it all the time. (Actually, it's even the system default, you gotta stty erase ^h manually when using syscons.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 01:29:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA27186 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA27163; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12368; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 10:29:01 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199607200829.KAA12368@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: IPX? To: jonny@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 10:29:00 +0200 (SAT) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, joe@ns.via.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607200717.EAA21236@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> from Joao Carlos Mendes Luis at "Jul 20, 96 04:17:16 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > #define quoting(Doug White) > // On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Joe McGuckin wrote: > // > // > Does FreeBSD support IPX? Is there any work going in in that area? > // > // I *think* it can route it. But IPX isn't a very routable protocol, so ? > IPX is as routeable as IP. With 2 differences: it can't fragment a packet, so the sender must use a packet size small enough so that it can be delivered AND it has a 32 bit network address space, so you can have a much more networks than with IP v4. > Well, the most used IPX routing protocol is RIP. The *same* RIP as > implemented by routed. Of course, since IPX has been used only for > local nets, there aren't as many wide area routing protocols as IP. > Maybe NLSP is useful for metropolitan area. > > // > I'd really like to be able to gateway TCP/IP to IPX/SPX... > // > // Ouch. IPX is such a mess I don't think I'd want to touch it, much less > // try to gateway a superior protocol (TCP) to it. > > Humm, > > Do you mean that FreeBSD's IPX implementation is a mess or that IPX > protocol stack is a mess ? > > Hope you mean the first (I feel this too), because IPX is a datagram > protocol just as bad as IP in definition. What except for the one host address don't you like? I would really like to know. I plan to do some more work on IPX as soon as I can get the SDL RISCom device drivers finished. > > I'd love to make some changes to IPX kernel in FreeBSD, but I don't > have enough time. One thing I want to change is @#@#%@^! I can't use > different host (ethernet) adresses if I have more than one NIC. Even > if I have just one NIC I can't assign a internal IPX number in a similar > way as in NetWare servers. For example: > > ed0: 0x92A43F00.02:00:26:07:19:70 > lo0: 0x92A43F04.00:00:00:00:00:01 > > A fast look in the kernel sources and I found a (ugh) global variable > used for host addresses. This was in 2.2-960501-SNAP, if that matters. > Yes I know about this and have my own source that don't do it this way. I have talked to Mike Mitchell (who did the kernel side) long ago, but he did not want to change it then. Actually we (me and him) developed our own IPX (from the FreeBSD XNS code) at the same time. We decided to use his kernel code at the end. Sometime when I have time, I will merge my changes so that you can have different addresses for each interface. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 01:47:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA28003 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA27994 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12513; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 10:46:50 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199607200846.KAA12513@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Scanning for Interfaces! To: tcg@ime.net Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 10:46:50 +0200 (SAT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31F00670.6C5E@ime.net> from Gary Chrysler at "Jul 19, 96 06:04:32 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Defining sipx_network there will probably not work, because the kernel > > part of ipx will expect it inside sipx_addr. Maybe you can make a #define > > to make getting to it easier, eg. > > #define sipx_network (*(union ipx_net_u *)&sipx_addr.x_net)).long_e > > Note that this may not be correct because I have been looking at a > > -current ipx.h file. > > Yea, I did use a define at first and that caused trouble, But > I didn't do it as you suggest! I'll try it as well as show > what I have in ipx.h, I belive it is the same as current. > (MCI's Wonderfull high speed back bone is up to it's normal speed. > So I couldn't get to a -current ipx.h for comparision before > this reply, I will look later when usage is lower.) > My ipx.h is from the fbsd-ipx.tgz. > It is: (Revelant part, shortened) > > union ipx_host { > u_char c_host[6]; > u_short s_host[3]; > }; > > union ipx_net { > u_char c_net[4]; > u_short s_net[2]; > }; > > union ipx_net_u { > union ipx_net net_e; > u_long long_e; > }; > > struct ipx_addr { > union ipx_net x_net; > union ipx_host x_host; > u_short x_port; > }; > > struct sockaddr_ipx { > u_char sipx_len; > u_char sipx_family; > struct ipx_addr sipx_addr; > char sipx_zero[2]; > u_char sipx_type; /* tcg */ > u_long sipx_network; /* tcg */ > }; > > #define sipx_port sipx_addr.x_port > > #define sipx_special sipx_addr.x_port /* tcg */ > /* #define sipx_network sipx_addr.x_net tcg */ > #define sipx_node sipx_addr.x_host.c_host /* tcg */ > > NOTE: Ok pick yourself up off the floor and quit laughing! Hey, its not that bad. I did not even fall off the chair. :-) :-) :-) > These (whatevers) did move me along.. Maybe not in the right > direction but any direction is better then no direction. > I did get further and learned a bunch! > > sipx_special, Is defined the same in the Linux ipx.h > sipx_node, :) I know it's wrong.. whats right/better?? > sipx_network, ?? John, is your suggestion fitting?? It look like it should work. Maybe we can make life a bit easier by adding something like "u_long l_net" inside the ipx_net union?? Then we can make the #define a bit shorter: #define sipx_network sipx_addr.x_net.l_net John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 01:57:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA28383 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wave.cyberbeach.net (wave.cyberbeach.net [205.150.79.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA28375 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reality.cyberbeach.net (reality.cyberbeach.net [205.150.79.20]) by wave.cyberbeach.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA19269 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 04:56:59 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960720085659.0067a920@post.cyberbeach.net> X-Sender: kurt@post.cyberbeach.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 04:56:59 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Kurt Schafer Subject: NIS/NFS with 2.1.5-RELEASE ? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just did an FTP install of 2.1.5, the installation process has thankfully been enhanced. Good stuff ! Just experiencing some problems with NIS/NFS here. My existing network consists of three 2.1-R machines and I'm trying to phase in this 2.1.5 box to do some field testing. I've set up the YP domainname in /etc/sysconfig and set the nis and nfs flags to match those of the other clients in my network. (the 2.1.5 box will be a client) No errors seem evident upon reboot, a ps on the machine shows ypbind -s is running, the /var/yp/[domainname] exists on the machine (although it is empty) and nfsiod is also running. However, I can't log in with any of the usernames from the master machine, and none of the exports from the other machines are available for mount. I suppose at 5am it is possible I'm missing something but ... -Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 02:09:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA28917 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:09:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer24.u.washington.edu (durang@homer24.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA28904 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer24.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA53047; Sat, 20 Jul 96 02:07:48 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:07:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: Doug White Cc: RYAN DARBY , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Regarding Using 2.1.0 boot floppy to install from 2.0.5 CD-ROM In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I tried this to support my ATAPI CD-ROM. It was a mistake. Although I did learn much while patching up the errors and omissions that resulted, It was counterproductive. I ftp'd the 2.1.5 minimal installation, plus man pages and source for the kernel, and installed that without a hitch. That 2.1.5 boot floppy found all of my devices without problems. I am impressed. Ken Marsh From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 02:11:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA29018 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer24.u.washington.edu (durang@homer24.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA29013 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer24.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA139137; Sat, 20 Jul 96 02:11:48 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:11:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with floppy drive In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have to use the -f switch whenever I umount a floppy or I get an error to the effect of, "Device still busy".... Is this normal? Is it potentially harmful to use the -f switch, when the drive light is clearly off? can I use "sync" or something to do it right? Ken Marsh From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 04:35:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA05721 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 04:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA05716 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 04:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uhaJb-00018KC; Sat, 20 Jul 96 07:35 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: man security hole in 2.1.5? Date: 20 Jul 1996 07:35:16 -0400 Lines: 2 Message-ID: <4sqg9k$59n@twwells.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk There was a CERT advisory for man and I'm pretty sure it applied to 2.1. Has the problem been fixed in 2.1.5? From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 04:55:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA06278 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 04:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.inetnebr.com (binary@falcon.inetnebr.com [199.184.119.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA06273 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 04:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from binary@localhost) by falcon.inetnebr.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA20221 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:56:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Binary Images Message-Id: <199607201156.GAA20221@falcon.inetnebr.com> Subject: subscribe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:56:01 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe freebsd-stable binary@inetnebr.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 05:22:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA06948 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 05:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA06942 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 05:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ae26911; 20 Jul 96 13:02 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa08212; 20 Jul 96 12:06 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01026; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:04:08 GMT Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:04:08 GMT Message-Id: <199607201104.LAA01026@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: asafari@orbonline.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31F07E18.4032@orbonline.net> (message from Artin Safari on Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:35:04 -0400) Subject: Re: Serial Port Problems Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Artin Safari writes: > > I just recently installed FreeBSD but I have to disable all the COM > ports. As soon as the OS begins probing these ports, the screen goes > blank, all disk activity stops and after a few seconds, the monitor goes > into standby mode. Which version of FreeBSD was this? This is supposed to be fixed in 2.1.5, which came out this week. > Have you seen anything like this before. I am dying to get X-Windows > going but I can't because I cannot install my mouse. This sounds very much like problem with the ATI Mach 64 video card. If it is, the FAQ has a lot of information on how to sort this out. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 05:55:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA14243 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 05:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wiesbaden.netsurf.de (nero.wiesbaden.netsurf.de [194.163.168.140]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA14238 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 05:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from idefix by wiesbaden.netsurf.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #10) id m0uhbZZ-001leWC; Sat, 20 Jul 96 14:55 MET DST Message-ID: <31F0E6A3.157E@wiesbaden.netsurf.de> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:01:07 +0200 From: Marcus John X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 3C589 on Cirrus PCMCIA bridge CL6729 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I hope you're the expert I need! (other experts are also welcome) ' cuz Nate Williams (you!) wrote: > Hot diggity dog! Glad to hear it. The if_ep driver is generally > 'better' than the if_zp driver since I've been the only one bringing > over bug-fixes to the if_zp driver, and I haven't been very dedicated to > the task. In any case, if_zp will be gone by the time 2.2 is released > when we have the ability to install via the PC-CARD stuff. > > Nate I'm messing around with a quite modern notebook, which has a Cirrus PCMCIA bridge (type CL 6729) attached on it's PCI-bus. After fiddling around with the base stuff, like moving the PCMCIA base address from 0x3e0 to 0x3000 and reducing MAX_SLOTS to 2 (system hangs otherwise when probing for cards), I'm totally confused by now. First approach was to get a 3C589-C working with the zp-driver and leaving out the pcic- and crd-stuff. My result is that the zp-driver does attach to the card if-and-only-if I user io=0x300 and irq=10, but no frames appear on the wire (proof by another FreeBSD-box with bpf). In contrast to you mails with michael butler the ep-driver does NOT recognize the 3C589 at all! So how did he do it? Second approach was to try 2.2-SNAP960501 with pcic- and crd-drivers. Again 50% success. I get messages when cards are inserted and removed, but now drivers can be bound. OK, I'm aware of that the zp-driver can only be used standalone. Therefore I used a NE-2000 compatible PC-card, but again no driver bound. (btw this NE-2000 compatible card works fine, if I run the DOS-enabler first and do a soft-reboot to FreeBSD afterwards - no pcic/crd-stuff neeeded). So my questions are: - Am I doing something completely wrong or is it just the wierd hardware? - Why is the Cirrus brigde not properly decoded by the boot code, even though the boot code should be able to recognize this type? - Which approach shall I further investigate to get this *!!* PC-card stuff working either wih the 3C589 or th NE-2000 compat.? (3C589 would be more interesting, because of the higher rates of the 16-bit interface) - Where can I find the nep-driver, which is used in the sample configuration of /etc/pccard.conf? Is it still state of the art? - What configuration entries are needed in my kernel and pccard.conf? To make this a little bit easier here are: * * Verbose dmseg of the pcic/crd-kernel: * * (slight overflow due to my -add-ons- ) Calibrating clock(s) relative to mc146818A clock ... i586 clock: 120282360 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193308 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency CLK_USE_I586_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method i586 clock: 0 Hz CPU: Pentium (120.26-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x526 Stepping=6 Features=0x1bf real memory = 25165824 (24576K bytes) FreeBSD Kernel Configuration Utility - Version 1.0 Type "help" for help or "visual" to go to the visual configuration interface (requires MGA/VGA display or serial terminal capable of displaying ANSI graphics). config> ls Device port irq drq iomem iosize unit flags enabled fdc0 0x3f0 6 2 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes wdc0 0x1f0 14 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes wdc1 0x170 15 -1 0x0 0 1 0x0Yes sc0 0x60 1 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes sio0 0x3f8 4 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes sio1 0x2f8 3 -1 0x0 0 1 0x0 Yes lpt0 0xffffffff 7 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes psm0 0x60 12 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes ed0 0x320 11 -1 0xd8000 0 0 0x0 No ep0 0x300 11 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes zp0 0x300 11 -1 0xd0000 0 0 0x0 No npx0 0xf0 13 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes apm0 0x0 -1 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes config> en ed0 config> q avail memory = 22675456 (22144K bytes) BIOS Geometries: 0:02903f3f 0..656=657 cylinders, 0..63=64 heads, 1..63=63 sectors 1:03feff00 0..1022=1023 cylinders, 0..255=256 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 2:03fdfe3f 0..1021=1022 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, 1..63=63 sectors 3:01fe0100 0..510=511 cylinders, 0..1=2 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 0 accounted for PC-Card Cirrus Logic PD672X (5 mem & 2 I/O windows) <===== Addl. debug by me pcic: controller irq 10 * Check for a card in this slot. setb (sp, PCIC_POWER, PCIC_PCPWRE| PCIC_DISRST); } else { slotp->laststate = slotp->state = filled; pccard_event(sp->slotp, card_inserted); } */ if (pcic_irq > 0) putb(sp, PCIC_STAT_INT, (pcic_irq << 4) | 0xF); * Check for a card in this slot. setb (sp, PCIC_POWER, PCIC_PCPWRE| PCIC_DISRST); if ((getb (sp, PCIC_STATUS) & PCIC_CD) != PCIC_CD) { slotp->laststate = slotp->state = empty; } */ if (pcic_irq > 0) putb(sp, PCIC_STAT_INT, (pcic_irq << 4) | 0xF); } if (validslots) timeout(pcictimeout,0,hz/2); <==== End of my stuff pcibus_setup(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80009070 pcibus_setup(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pcibus_check: device 0 is there (id=e8911060) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. chip0 rev 176 on pci0:0 vga0 rev 0 on pci0:17 mapreg[10] type=0 addr=c0000000 size=800000. chip1 rev 178 on pci0:18:0 pci0:18:1: UMC, device=0x673a, class=storage (ide) [no driver assigned] chip2 rev 254 int a irq ?? on pci0:23 mapreg[10] type=1 addr=00003000 size=0004. pci0: uses 8388608 bytes of memory from c0000000 upto c07fffff. pci0: uses 4 bytes of I/O space from 3000 upto 3003. Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> pccard driver ed added ed0 not found at 0x320 pccard driver sio added sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x278-0x27f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x63 irq 12 on motherboard fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1295MB (2654064 sectors), 2633 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, intr, iordis wcd0: 689Kb/sec, 128Kb cache, audio play, 255 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: no disc inside, unlocked ep0 not found at 0x300 zp0: disabled, not probed. npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0 on isa apm: found APM BIOS version 53.14 imasks: bio c000c040, tty c003109a, net c003109a Card inserted, slot 0 <=== NE-2000 in Slot wd0s2: type 0x6, start 63, end = 717695, size 717633 : OK wd0s3: type 0xa5, start 717696, end = 1290239, size 572544 : OK wd0s4: type 0x63, start 1290240, end = 2653055, size 1362816 : OK Slot 0, unfielded interrupt (0) type = 0 type_str=PCCARD isa16bit=1 memsize=16384 id_msize=16384 nic_addr = 320 ether=0:0:0:0:0:0 ed_probe_pccard: possible failure ....................dead :-( Return IRQ=11 stray irq 11 Card removed, slot 0 Card inserted, slot 0 * * Outpout of scanpci: * dracula[root-ttyp0/root]> scanpci PCI says configuration type 1 PCI probing configuration type 1 pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x00, vendor 0x1060 device 0xe891 UMC Device unknown STATUS 0xe200 COMMAND 0x0006 CLASS 0x06 0x00 0x00 REVISION 0xb0 pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x11, vendor 0x102c device 0x00dc CT Device unknown STATUS 0x0280 COMMAND 0x01c3 CLASS 0x03 0x00 0x00 REVISION 0x00 BASE0 0xc0000000 addr 0xc0000000 MEM BASEROM 0x0c000000 addr 0x0c000000 not-decode-enabled pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x12, vendor 0x1060 device 0xe886 UMC Device unknown STATUS 0x0200 COMMAND 0x000f CLASS 0x06 0x01 0x00 REVISION 0xb2 BIST 0x00 HEADER 0x80 LATENCY 0x00 CACHE 0x00 pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x17, vendor 0x1013 device 0x1100 Cirrus Logic CL 6729 STATUS 0x8400 COMMAND 0x01c3 CLASS 0x06 0x05 0x00 REVISION 0xfe BASE0 0x00003001 addr 0x00003000 I/O MAX_LAT 0x00 MIN_GNT 0x00 INT_PIN 0x01 INT_LINE 0xff PCI probing configuration type 2 * * CIS-dump of the 3C589 * Configuration data for card in slot 1 Tuple #1, code = 0x1 (Common memory descriptor), length = 2 000: 00 ff Common memory device information: Device number 1, type No device, WPS = OFF Speed = No speed, Memory block size = reserved, 32 units Tuple #2, code = 0x17 (Attribute memory descriptor), length = 3 000: 43 02 ff Attribute memory device information: Device number 1, type EEPROM, WPS = OFF Speed = 150nS, Memory block size = 8Kb, 1 units Tuple #3, code = 0x20 (Manufacturer ID), length = 4 000: 01 01 89 05 PCMCIA ID = 0x101, OEM ID = 0x589 Tuple #4, code = 0x21 (Functional ID), length = 2 000: 06 00 Network/LAN adapter Tuple #5, code = 0x15 (Version 1 info), length = 57 000: 04 01 33 43 6f 6d 20 43 6f 72 70 6f 72 61 74 69 010: 6f 6e 00 33 43 35 38 39 00 54 50 2f 42 4e 43 20 020: 4c 41 4e 20 43 61 72 64 20 56 65 72 2e 20 32 61 030: 00 30 30 30 30 30 32 00 ff Version = 4.1, Manuf = [3Com Corporation],card vers = [3C589] Addit. info = [TP/BNC LAN Card Ver. 2a],[000002] Tuple #6, code = 0x1a (Configuration map), length = 6 000: 02 03 00 00 01 03 Reg len = 3, config register addr = 0x10000, last config = 0x3 Registers: XX------ Tuple #7, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 15 000: c1 01 1d 71 55 35 55 54 e0 72 5d 64 30 ff ff Config index = 0x1(default) Interface byte = 0x1 (I/O) Vcc pwr: Nominal operating supply voltage: 5 x 1V Max current average over 1 second: 3 x 10mA Max current average over 10 ms: 5 x 10mA Power down supply current: 5 x 1mA Wait scale Speed = 7.0 x 100 ns RDY/BSY scale Speed = 7.0 x 100 ns Card decodes 18 address lines, full 8/16 Bit I/O IRQ modes: Level, Pulse IRQs: IOCK 1 4 5 6 8 10 11 12 14 Tuple #8, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 000: 03 01 71 55 26 26 54 Config index = 0x3 Vcc pwr: Nominal operating supply voltage: 5 x 1V Max current average over 1 second: 2 x 100mA Max current average over 10 ms: 2 x 100mA Power down supply current: 5 x 1mA Tuple #9, code = 0x19 (JEDEC descr for attribute memory), length = 3 000: 00 00 ff Tuple #10, code = 0x14 (No link), length = 0 Tuple #11, code = 0x10 (Checksum), length = 5 000: 89 ff 80 00 00 Checksum from offset -119, length 128, value is 0x0 Tuple #12, code = 0xff (Terminator), length = 218 000: 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 43 32 20 54 45 41 4d 2d 010: 45 61 72 6c 20 41 6c 64 72 69 64 67 65 2c 20 52 020: 65 78 20 41 6c 6c 65 72 73 2c 20 52 75 73 73 65 030: 6c 6c 20 43 68 61 6e 67 2c 20 44 61 76 69 64 20 040: 43 68 69 68 2c 20 48 65 72 6d 61 6e 20 4c 61 6f 050: 2c 20 47 65 6e 65 20 4c 69 6e 2c 20 4c 69 61 6e 060: 67 20 4c 69 6e 2c 20 48 69 65 6e 20 4e 67 75 79 070: 65 6e 2c 20 4b 61 70 20 53 6f 68 2c 20 47 61 72 080: 79 20 57 61 6e 67 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 090: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 0a0: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 0b0: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 0c0: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 0d0: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 2 slots found * * CIS-dump of the NE-2000 compat. * Configuration data for card in slot 0 Tuple #1, code = 0x1 (Common memory descriptor), length = 2 000: dc ff Common memory device information: Device number 1, type Function specific, WPS = ON Speed = 100nS, Memory block size = reserved, 32 units Tuple #2, code = 0x21 (Functional ID), length = 2 000: 06 01 Network/LAN adapter - POST initialize Tuple #3, code = 0x15 (Version 1 info), length = 54 000: 04 01 52 50 54 49 00 45 50 34 30 31 20 45 74 68 010: 65 72 6e 65 74 20 4e 45 32 30 30 30 20 43 6f 6d 020: 70 61 74 69 62 6c 65 00 43 49 53 56 31 30 30 95 030: 10 30 53 4c 00 ff Version = 4.1, Manuf = [RPTI],card vers = [EP401 Ethernet NE2000 Compatible] Addit. info = [CISV1000x95^P0SL],[ÿ] Tuple #4, code = 0x1a (Configuration map), length = 5 000: 01 23 f8 03 03 Reg len = 2, config register addr = 0x3f8, last config = 0x23 Registers: XX------ Tuple #5, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 24 000: e0 81 1e 3f 55 c5 4b 5d 1e 36 56 01 8e 7d fc 2c 010: ca 60 00 03 1f 30 3c 9e Config index = 0x20(default) Interface byte = 0x81 (I/O) wait signal supported Vcc pwr: Nominal operating supply voltage: 5 x 1V Minimum operating supply voltage: 4 x 1V, ext = 0x4b Maximum operating supply voltage: 5.5 x 1V Continuous supply current: 1.5 x 100mA Max current average over 1 second: 3 x 100mA Max current average over 10 ms: 5 x 100mA Vpp pwr: Nominal operating supply voltage: 1.2 x 10V, ext = 0x7d Wait scale Speed = 2.0 x 10 us Card decodes 12 address lines, 8 Bit I/O only IRQ modes: Level IRQ level = 12 Tuple #6, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 000: 21 08 ca 60 20 03 1f Config index = 0x21 Card decodes 10 address lines, limited 8/16 Bit I/O I/O address # 1: block start = 0x320 block length = 0x20 Tuple #7, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 000: 22 08 ca 60 40 03 1f Config index = 0x22 Card decodes 10 address lines, limited 8/16 Bit I/O I/O address # 1: block start = 0x340 block length = 0x20 Tuple #8, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 000: 23 08 ca 60 60 03 1f Config index = 0x23 Card decodes 10 address lines, limited 8/16 Bit I/O I/O address # 1: block start = 0x360 block length = 0x20 Tuple #9, code = 0x14 (No link), length = 0 Tuple #10, code = 0xff (Terminator), length = 0 2 slots found Many thanks for your time and effort!!!! marcus.john@wiesbaden.netsurf.de From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 06:04:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA14798 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA14793 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-13.ime.net [206.231.148.142]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA16221; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31F0D90A.5E31@ime.net> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:03:06 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: garman@phs.k12.ar.us, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: More results on my problem... (was: Network weirdness?) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White wrote: > > > I don't think Windoze machines ping. Do they? > Yes, Doug.. Winbloze does have a ping.exe, It works too.. :) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 06:15:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA15135 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (meyers@pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA15130 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pcnet1.pcnet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25403; Sat, 20 Jul 96 09:11:26 EDT Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:11:25 -0400 (EDT) From: John Meyers To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Promise EIDE 4030Plus Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've recently tried to install FreeBSD from a Wallnut creek CD, as well as the latest boot image from your sites, and I have had a serious problem.. I have 2 large EIDE drives on the first port of a Promise EIDE 4030Plus caching controller which are used for DOS and Windows. I don't want to touch them so I put a smaller WD 440 meg drive jumpered as a single on the second EIDE port. (The controller offers 3, 2 EIDE ports, and 1 ATAPI comoatable IDE port). DOS needs a special driver that comes with the disk to recognise drives 3 and 4. I was hopeing FreeBSD wouldn't, but your install program isn't picking the 3rd drive up. The card came with the drivers for SCO and ATT unix, but I doubt that can do me any good.. Even when the kernel boots, it is unable to find wdc0, although it does find wd0 (and it's 2 drives).. Remember one thing, BIOS only support 2 drives here, but the controller has its own BIOS setup at boot and maintaines its own drive table. There is no hardware problem as dos sees the drive (w/the driver) but FreeBSD does not. BTW, the 2nd controller lives at the standard place - IRQ15. Ideas on how to get it to work? John From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 06:31:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA15519 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from only.justcompute.com (only.justcompute.com [208.128.131.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA15514 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BBS.justcompute.com (bbs.justcompute.com [208.128.131.2]) by only.justcompute.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA03344 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:28:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607201328.JAA03344@only.justcompute.com> Received: from [208.128.131.109] by BBS.justcompute.com id 4bb30.wrk; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:29:38 EDT From: "Chris Lavin" To: Subject: Sendmail.cf file ..Any Info Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:25:06 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1085 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok I know it must seem like a dumb question but where can I get some documentation about the saendmail config file so that I can try to configure sendmail the way I want it to work..What does all the stuff in the file mean? Thanx In Advance Chris From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 06:55:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA16467 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA16410 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-13.ime.net [206.231.148.142]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA21214; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31F0E45F.283C@ime.net> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:51:27 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Hay CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Scanning for Interfaces! References: <199607200846.KAA12513@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Hay wrote: > > > > Defining sipx_network there will probably not work, because the kernel > > > part of ipx will expect it inside sipx_addr. Maybe you can make a #define > > > to make getting to it easier, eg. > > > #define sipx_network (*(union ipx_net_u *)&sipx_addr.x_net)).long_e > > > Note that this may not be correct because I have been looking at a > > > -current ipx.h file. > > > > Yea, I did use a define at first and that caused trouble, But > > I didn't do it as you suggest! I'll try it as well as show > > what I have in ipx.h, I belive it is the same as current. > > (MCI's Wonderfull high speed back bone is up to it's normal speed. > > So I couldn't get to a -current ipx.h for comparision before > > this reply, I will look later when usage is lower.) > > My ipx.h is from the fbsd-ipx.tgz. > > It is: (Revelant part, shortened) > > > > union ipx_host { > > u_char c_host[6]; > > u_short s_host[3]; > > }; > > > > union ipx_net { > > u_char c_net[4]; > > u_short s_net[2]; > > }; > > > > union ipx_net_u { > > union ipx_net net_e; > > u_long long_e; > > }; > > > > struct ipx_addr { > > union ipx_net x_net; > > union ipx_host x_host; > > u_short x_port; > > }; > > > > struct sockaddr_ipx { > > u_char sipx_len; > > u_char sipx_family; > > struct ipx_addr sipx_addr; > > char sipx_zero[2]; > > u_char sipx_type; /* tcg */ > > u_long sipx_network; /* tcg */ > > }; > > > > #define sipx_port sipx_addr.x_port > > > > #define sipx_special sipx_addr.x_port /* tcg */ > > /* #define sipx_network sipx_addr.x_net tcg */ > > #define sipx_node sipx_addr.x_host.c_host /* tcg */ > > > > NOTE: Ok pick yourself up off the floor and quit laughing! > > Hey, its not that bad. I did not even fall off the chair. :-) :-) :-) > Aweee.. So you and the chair both fell over huh?? :) Hey, I'm no professional programer, I'm just a dabbler.. I do and learn or crash and burn! > > These (whatevers) did move me along.. Maybe not in the right > > direction but any direction is better then no direction. > > I did get further and learned a bunch! > > > > sipx_special, Is defined the same in the Linux ipx.h > > sipx_node, :) I know it's wrong.. whats right/better?? Was hoping for a suggesting here, Got any?? Linux sockaddr_ipx has it as: unsigned char sipx_node[IPX_NODE_LEN]; > > sipx_network, ?? John, is your suggestion fitting?? > > It look like it should work. Maybe we can make life a bit easier by > adding something like "u_long l_net" inside the ipx_net union?? > Then we can make the #define a bit shorter: > #define sipx_network sipx_addr.x_net.l_net > Something like so: union ipx_net { u_char c_net[4]; u_short s_net[2]; u_long l_net; }; #define sipx_network sipx_addr.x_net.l_net Looks good, Is it technically good??? What will this do to any of the current IPX code! No, I don't have the 'Big Picture' of the IPX code yet, I'm still figuring it out. It would help tremendously If I could put IPXrouted to use somehow! So I can see it in action. I'm sure your goals are the same as mine, I don't want to do anything to the kernel thats not good for FreeBSD in the whole! Thanks for your time. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 07:02:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA16761 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 07:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hera.cwi.nl (hera.cwi.nl [192.16.191.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA16755 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 07:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.cwi.nl by hera.cwi.nl with SMTP id ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:02:01 +0200 Received: by zeus-184.cwi.nl id ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:02:13 +0200 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:02:13 +0200 From: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl Message-Id: <9607201402.AA16759=aeb@zeus-184.cwi.nl> To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installation fails Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl wrote: > I have a rather > delicate setup with 3 IDE and 3 SCSI disks, and as far as I can > see there is no information at all about the precise properties > or configuration of this boot manager, so I answered No. > So my present question is: is there a way to let the installation > procedure make a boot floppy that boots a given partition? Not automatically, but you can manually boot. Assuming your FreeBSD root file system is on the second SCSI disk (sd1), insert the installation floppy, then say at the Boot: prompt: 4:sd(1,a)/kernel (The `4' means `5th BIOS disk'.) Yesterday I decided that that couldnt work, but now that you say it explicitly, I tried, and it doesnt work. (Yields an infinite string of Error C:0 H:0 S:0 error messages.) My BIOS only knows about disks 0 and 1, so anything booted directly must come from there, or from floppy. So, my Linux kernels live on disk 1 and get a boot parameter to tell them which partition on which disk is to be mounted as root directory. I am searching for the way to communicate to a FreeBSD kernel what device contains the root file system. Booting from the install floppy I can choose the fixit item in the menu and get a shell prompt, but it is really a very meagre system one gets, hardly the way to run FreeBSD. Being an absolute beginner with FreeBSD (although with 20+ years of Unix experience) I also experience a lack of information. For example: what is the naming scheme for disks and partitions and slices? The Handbook doesnt tell me. Is there a man page? I made some plausible guesses and sometimes mount accepted them, sometimes not. I have not been able to mount any non-ufs file system. Attempts like `mount -t msdos dev dir' fail because mount tries to execute /sbin/mount_msdos which doesn't exist. But running /mnt/sbin/mount_msdos by hand also fails, I don't know why. Andries From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 07:03:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA16806 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 07:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16801 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 07:03:36 -0700 (PDT) From: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Received: from mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr [134.157.72.87]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with SMTP id QAA15801 ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:03:08 +0200 (METDST) Received: from garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr (garfield) by mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jn930126+af960507(mailhost)) at Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:02:11 +0100 Received: from (af@localhost) by garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) id QAA04356 ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:01:56 +0100 (GMT-1) Message-Id: <199607201501.QAA04356@garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr> Subject: Re: Sendmail.cf file ..Any Info To: chrisl@bbs.justcompute.com (Chris Lavin) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:01:56 +0100 (GMT-1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607201328.JAA03344@only.justcompute.com> from "Chris Lavin" at Jul 20, 96 09:25:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chris Lavin wrote / a ecrit: > > Ok I know it must seem like a dumb question but where can I get some > documentation about the saendmail config file so that I can try to > configure sendmail the way I want it to work..What does all the stuff in > the file mean? > > Three very good sources I know of for manual configuration of sendmail.cf: . SunOS 4.1.x "System and network administration" . NeXT version of the same manual (it's called "Network and system administration" ! ;-) [Those two are a bit outdated since they deal with sendmail 5.*, but they're VERY good introductions to sendmail rules IMO] . O'Reilly book "Sendmail" ISBN 1-56592-056-2, 255 FF here and well worth that ! You may also want to grab the sources from the latest sendmail (8.7.*), it's always a very good idea to stay up to date... sendmail has been so widely used as a front door for crackers... The source come with a ./cf directory for automatic generation of sendmail.cf files from a simple configuration file using m4 macros. Bonne chance, _Alain_ -- Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM Public Health 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE Medical Computing Research Labs Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68 I've RTFMed. It says: "Refer to your system administrator" But... I *am* the system administrator :-] From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 07:14:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA17115 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 07:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hera.cwi.nl (hera.cwi.nl [192.16.191.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA17109 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 07:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.cwi.nl by hera.cwi.nl with SMTP id ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:14:16 +0200 Received: by zeus-184.cwi.nl id ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:14:28 +0200 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:14:28 +0200 From: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl Message-Id: <9607201414.AA16856=aeb@zeus-184.cwi.nl> To: bde@zeta.org.au Subject: Re: installation fails Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> But now I find that I have no means to boot this installed system! The existing one (whatever is used to boot all those disks) might work. I use OS/2 BM and LILO. Both boot only from drives that the BIOS can access, that is in my case, from drives 0 and 1. If this doesn't work, then any bootable disk, including the install floppy, can be used to boot almost any disk: hit the space bar to make the boot pause, then stare at the prompt to figure out or remind yourself of the syntax, then type the destination, which should look something like 5:sd(2,a)/kernel for the BIOS drive 5 of 0-5 and SCSI drive 2 of 0-2. This fails for the same reason. The BIOS does not know about SCSI disks, so I have to boot a kernel from floppy or from IDE disk 0 or 1 and tell that kernel where its root filesystem is. For Linux one uses a command line parameter "root=/dev/sdc1" to say that it must mount the first partition of the 3rd SCSI disk as root filesystem. But what do I say to the FreeBSD kernel? Andries From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 08:06:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19339 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 08:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA19324 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 08:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE [160.45.24.21]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id IAA00450 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 08:05:59 -0700 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from mail.hanse.de (193.174.9.9) with smtp id ; Sat, 20 Jul 96 04:07 MEST Received: from wavehh.UUCP by mail.hanse.de with UUCP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id ; Sat, 20 Jul 96 04:07 MET DST Received: by wavehh.hanse.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03297; Fri, 19 Jul 96 23:44:05 +0200 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 23:44:05 +0200 From: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer) Message-Id: <9607192144.AA03297@wavehh.hanse.de> To: jfieber@indiana.EDU Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: JDK 1.0.2 available for FreeBSD? Newsgroups: hanse-ml.freebsd.questions References: <199607190818.KAA01181@xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl> Reply-To: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk jfieber@indiana.EDU (John Fieber) wrote: >On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, FreeBSD matters of Mark Huizer wrote: >> There are two things you can do, both mostly easily to be found in the >> ports tree. >> >> 1. kaffe (ftp://ftp.sarc.city.ac.uk:/pub/kaffe) is in /usr/ports/www/kaffe >> >> 2. use netscape: you install the JDK (a.o. the classes.zip file, see >3. If you are running FreeBSD-current, the linux port of jdk > 1.0.2 works just fine. ^ ^ ^ 1.0.1. Sun changed the source lincense and the original Linux port author will, as far as I know from others, not accept the new license. The point in question is that a binary port cannot be bundeld with other software on a sold CDROM. Since Sun doesn't answer (my) other questions about their source license, I have to admit I'm not sure how far people can trust Sun's development kit to be on free platforms in future. I'm using alternatives (C :-). BTW, the last Netscape version that was able to run the Java compiler was 3.0beta2 and that expired some days ago. I'd submit kernel patches to make time() have an per-process negative offset, but that wouldn't make Netscape's cache problems any better :-) Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.bik-gmbh.de/~cracauer Where do you want to go today? Hard to tell running your calendar on a junk OS, eh? From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 09:04:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA21207 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from starfire.mn.org (root@starfire.skypoint.net [199.86.32.187]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA21201 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:04:14 -0700 (PDT) From: john@starfire.mn.org Received: (from john@localhost) by starfire.mn.org (8.6.12/1.1) id LAA07793 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:04:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199607201604.LAA07793@starfire.mn.org> Subject: looking for recommendations for UPS w/FreeBSD To: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:04:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am looking for recommendations for Uninterruptible Power Supplies for use with FreeBSD. I would at least like unattended shut down, but other monitoring and data collection features would be, ah, well, fun, I guess. It would be even better if I could manage it and do the automatic shutdown through a network connection rather than a serial port, but I'll take what I can get. Please reply directly, as I do not subscribe to this list. Thanks! John Lind, Starfire Consulting Services E-mail: john@starfire.MN.ORG USnail: PO Box 17247, Mpls MN 55417 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 11:46:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA05102 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05095 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA16842; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:46:41 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199607201846.LAA16842@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: Re: Sendmail.cf file ..Any Info To: chrisl@bbs.justcompute.com (Chris Lavin) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:46:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607201328.JAA03344@only.justcompute.com> from "Chris Lavin" at Jul 20, 96 09:25:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Ok I know it must seem like a dumb question but where can I get some > documentation about the saendmail config file so that I can try to > configure sendmail the way I want it to work..What does all the stuff in > the file mean? Well, O'Reilly's _Sendmail_ book is probably *THE* definitive reference. If you intend to do any *serious* sendmail hacking, it should be on your bookshelf... Also check through the online docs... --don From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 14:10:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA16848 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 14:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from catalyst.net (tiger.catalyst.net [207.135.215.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16833 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 14:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlton-d197.catalyst.net (carlton-d196.catalyst.net [207.135.215.196]) by catalyst.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA06551 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 14:12:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199607202112.OAA06551@catalyst.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 80 16:03:02 -0700 From: Carlton Brown Organization: Catalyst Data Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newsgroups and how to delete users Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I need to know where to fing the FreeBSD support newsgroups, so that I can find anxaers to simple questions, not covered in the Handbook, without pestering you guys, and I am presently trying to find the counterpart to the 'adduser' command, that deletes them. Editing the /etc/password file doesn't seem to be working; all my changes, even when made as 'root' don't seem to stick. I log out, log back in, and the old users are alway back in there, again. Very frustrating... Carlton Brown (carlton@catalyst.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 15:27:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21070 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 15:27:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Robson.cusd.claremont.edu (Ppp-21.odc.net [206.250.32.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21065 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 15:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from robson (loopback [127.0.0.0]) by Robson.cusd.claremont.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00223 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 15:27:47 -0700 Message-ID: <31F15D63.5378A5B5@chs.claremont.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 15:27:47 -0700 From: Erik Karas Organization: - X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (X11; I; Linux 2.0.7 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Install Troubles Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have having problems getting the ppp program to connect to my isp using PAP authentication. I have looked in newsgroup archives and the mail list archives but with no real success. I have tried it with both of my isp's and I can't get it to work with either of them. I can get it to dial and connect but not to authenticate and put me into PPP mode. I have enabled pap set my name and password. set openmode active, disabled and denied lqr and pred1 .. I've had lots of experience with pppd but I can't seem to get this to work at all. Thanks for any help I'm sure this has been answered somewhere before.. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 16:04:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA22971 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer22.u.washington.edu (durang@homer22.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA22966 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer22.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA148851; Sat, 20 Jul 96 16:04:14 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:04:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Kernel make error. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just upgraded by complete re-install to 2.1.5. So far, everything is peachy. The best kernel I have been able to make is one that includes a number of network options and the pci0 controller. (My MB is VL-bus). If I edit the config file to contain only what I need, then I get this error at the very end of the make process: loading kernel machdep.o: Undefined symbol `_netisr_set' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Am I including/excluding something I shouldn't? How can I fix this? My kernel config file has zero network devices or options in it, and uses only the isa controller. Also, there are no SCSI devices. Ken Marsh From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 16:11:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA23364 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.dsu.edu (ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu [138.247.32.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23357 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ghelmer@localhost) by alpha.dsu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA31589; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:11:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:11:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Guy Helmer To: Carlton Brown cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Newsgroups and how to delete users In-Reply-To: <199607202112.OAA06551@catalyst.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 10 Jul 1980, Carlton Brown wrote: > I need to know where to fing the FreeBSD support newsgroups, so that I > can find anxaers to simple questions, not covered in the Handbook, > without pestering you guys, and I am presently trying to find the > counterpart to the 'adduser' command, that deletes them. Editing the > /etc/password file doesn't seem to be working; all my changes, even when > made as 'root' don't seem to stick. I log out, log back in, and the old > users are alway back in there, again. Very frustrating... Always use vipw to edit the password file. The real password database is /etc/master.passwd, and each time it is edited, /etc/passwd, /etc/pwd.db, and /etc/spwd.db must be rebuilt - vipw rebuilds these for you automatically. That said, you can find my latest beta version of removeuser (which removes the user from the password database, removes the user's home directory, removes the user from all groups in /etc/group, and removes the user's crontab & at jobs) at ftp://ftp.dsu.edu/pub/FreeBSD/ghelmer/removeuser-2-beta.tar.gz Since this is a beta version, I'd advise you use it carefully on a fully-backed-up system and please report any problems you have with it. The older, well-tested (but slightly harder-to-install and with fewer features) version is ftp://ftp.dsu.edu/pub/FreeBSD/ghelmer/removeuser.tar.gz Guy Helmer, Dakota State University Computing Services - ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 16:46:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA24657 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bofh.noc.best.net (bofh.noc.best.net [205.149.163.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24652; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rone@localhost) by bofh.noc.best.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA10046; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Echeverri Message-Id: <199607202346.QAA10046@bofh.noc.best.net> Subject: Re: rcmd: socket: Protocol not available To: spfarrel@midway.uchicago.edu (steve farrell) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607191703.MAA00970@meno.uchicago.edu> from steve farrell at "Jul 19, 96 12:03:16 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk steve farrell writes: >% rlogin shellx >rcmd: socket: Protocol not available ...actually, i rather suspect you did what i did, which was give yourself a copy of libc.so.3.0 so you could run binaries from a -current box. evidentally i've been building against this library not libc.so.2.2. i wouldn't think it would matter much, except that 3.0 doesn't seem to match a 2.1 kernel, and hence these errors. [that's my guess, at least] try ldd'ing your rsh. bofh# ldd `which rsh` /usr/bin/rsh: -lc.3 => /usr/lib/libc.so.3.0 (0x801c000) bofh# cd /usr/lib bofh# mv libc.so.3.0 libc.so.3.0.disabled bofh# ln -s libc.so.2.2 libc.so.3.0 % rlogin shellx Best Internet Communications, Inc. Mountain View, California USA Customer Shell system - * Unauthorized access prohibited * And Bingo was his name. Do you expect that my linking 3.0 to 2.2 will cause any problems? (jeez, that sounds like a dumb question, but what the heck...) thanks rone -- Ron Echeverri Best Internet Systems Administration rone@best.net ============================================================================== No, i don't know what i'm doing, and if i did, i wouldn't tell you. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 16:52:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25031 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (root@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA25024 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:52:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA09795; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:52:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:52:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: Carlton Brown cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Newsgroups and how to delete users In-Reply-To: <199607202112.OAA06551@catalyst.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Use vipw as root... Mike On Thu, 10 Jul 1980, Carlton Brown wrote: > I need to know where to fing the FreeBSD support newsgroups, so that I > can find anxaers to simple questions, not covered in the Handbook, > without pestering you guys, and I am presently trying to find the > counterpart to the 'adduser' command, that deletes them. Editing the > /etc/password file doesn't seem to be working; all my changes, even when > made as 'root' don't seem to stick. I log out, log back in, and the old > users are alway back in there, again. Very frustrating... > > Carlton Brown (carlton@catalyst.net) > > > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._..,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 17:04:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA25598 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andante.cis.temple.edu (andante.cis.temple.edu [155.247.182.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25593 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lafollet@localhost) by andante.cis.temple.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA11865 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 20:01:00 -0400 From: Paul LaFollette Message-Id: <199607210001.UAA11865@andante.cis.temple.edu> Subject: Install problem wth new release To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 20:00:58 +0000 (WET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Trying to install the new release using FTP over ppp connection. This has worked just fine for the previous release, but now I specify ppp on COM2 in the menu, and when I get into the ppp program and type term, I get no response from my modem. My first guess is that it is mistakenly trying to talk to COM1, second guess is that handshaking might be screwed up. I have NOT had this problem ever with the previous release. Any ideas? Thanks for your help, and as alwqys thank you all for your continued support and improvement of this wonderful product :) Paul LaFollette Assoc. Prof. CIS Dept. Temple Univeristy Philadelphia, PA 19122 lafollet@andante.cis.temple.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 17:46:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA27040 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phs.k12.ar.us (garman@phs.k12.ar.us [165.29.117.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA27035 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 17:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (garman@localhost) by phs.k12.ar.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA01052; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:46:11 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:46:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Garman To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More results on my problem... (was: Network weirdness?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Routing tables > > > > Internet: > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > > localhost localhost UH 0 0 lo0 > > garman-net jason UCSc 0 0 eg0 > > the eg0 could possibly be it. can you run 'ifconfig eg0' and post the > output? > Yes, that is my ethernet card: eg0: flags=863 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > Have you tried a different ethernet card, like a cheap NE2000? > I would, if I had any. The only cards I have are the two 3c505's. Btw- this card works perfectly in both Windoze and Linux so I doubt its a bad card... > > Jul 19 15:55:25 jason /kernel: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo for > > 192.168.1.1 > > This points to a routing problem. > This only happens when I set up the route using the command `route add 192.168.1.0 192.168.1.1'. When I use that statement, I can't ping _any_ hosts on the network. They give me a message like the one up above. In fact-- using that statement, the FreeBSD machine doesn't even _attempt_ to arp for anyone's address on the network, just blindly throwing packets out the interface which obviously nobody responds to. The ethernet address of the FreeBSD box doesn't even appear in the arp cache. When I do `route add -net 192.168.1.0 -interface 192.168.1.1' this does not appear. Using this, pinging hosts on the network works, and the FreeBSD box correctly arps for their addresses. But it still does not respond to broadcast packets such as the arp broadcasts the Windows machine sends out when it starts up. > I don't think Windoze machines ping. Do they? > Yes, they do. Although it's probably not technically `legal', I tried telnetting to the broadcast address and watched Trumpet's log window. I could see the packet go out of the Windows machine's interface, but couldn't see any evidence of it in my tcpdump on the FreeBSD machine. Same with the arp broadcasts earlier.... -- Jason Garman http://www.nesc.k12.ar.us/~garman/ Student, Eleanor Roosevelt High School garman@phs.k12.ar.us From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 18:31:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA28956 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts9-line15.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.96]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA28950 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA00485; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:29:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Hans-Werner Braun cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3C586 In-Reply-To: <199607200605.XAA13600@orion.teledesic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Hans-Werner Braun wrote: > On my laptop I tried 2.1.5, but the boot floppy does not find the 3C589 PCMCIA > Ethernet card. Any idea what I could be doing wrong? This is a Compaq LTE 5300. Huh? It does too; it's device zp0. You have to configure it with the appropriate IRQ and port address (as configured from 3c589cfg). Also remove all other Ethernet drivers as they will conflict with it (especially the other z-device, ze0 I think). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 18:37:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA29246 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts9-line15.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.96]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29241 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA00496; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:37:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Paul LaFollette cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install problem wth new release In-Reply-To: <199607210001.UAA11865@andante.cis.temple.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 20 Jul 1996, Paul LaFollette wrote: > Trying to install the new release using FTP over ppp connection. > This has worked just fine for the previous release, but now > I specify ppp on COM2 in the menu, and when I get into the > ppp program and type term, I get no response from my modem. Type 'show modem' to the ppp> prompt. Check that the baudrate and port settings are right. If the device is wrong then use 'set device /dev/cuaa1' (in your case) to set it properly. Other options can be found by typing 'set ?'. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 18:39:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA29298 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts9-line15.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.96]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29293 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA00500; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 18:39:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Erik Karas cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install Troubles In-Reply-To: <31F15D63.5378A5B5@chs.claremont.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 20 Jul 1996, Erik Karas wrote: > I have having problems getting the ppp program to connect to > my isp using PAP authentication. Are you sure it's on the authentication step it's croaking? Have you tried logging in manually (with 'term')? Have you double checked your username and authkey with your ISP? Try turning on logging and reading /var/log/ppp.log after a session to determine where it's dying. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 19:15:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA02032 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts8-line12.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.76]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02025 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00534; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:15:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ken Marsh cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Kernel make error. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 20 Jul 1996, Ken Marsh wrote: > loading kernel > machdep.o: Undefined symbol `_netisr_set' referenced from text segment *** > Error code 1 > > Am I including/excluding something I shouldn't? How can I fix this? My > kernel config file has zero network devices or options in it, and uses > only the isa controller. Also, there are no SCSI devices. You are not defining something. Let's see your kernel config. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 19:18:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA02400 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02384 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id MAA20956 (8.7.4/IDA-1.6); Sun, 21 Jul 1996 12:18:39 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 12:18:38 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ipfw messages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hey all, Can someone tell me how I can get syslog to write ipfw messages to a file other than /var/log/messages. (I had something like /var/log/ipfw.messages in mind) Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 19:22:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA02900 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts8-line12.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.76]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02892 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00546; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:22:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ken Marsh cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with floppy drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 20 Jul 1996, Ken Marsh wrote: > I have to use the -f switch whenever I umount a floppy or I get an error > to the effect of, "Device still busy".... Don't forget to cd out of the mount directory. You'll get this if you mount_msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt, cd /mnt, umount /mnt. > Is this normal? Is it potentially harmful to use the -f switch, when the > drive light is clearly off? can I use "sync" or something to do it right? You shouldn't have to use -f. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 19:24:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03250 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts8-line12.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.76]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA03238 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00550; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:24:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: John Meyers cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Promise EIDE 4030Plus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Promises aren't compatible. Some people have gotten them to work by disabling the BIOS. Also make sure wdc1 is set up to match the hardware configuration. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 19:45:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA06119 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigdog.fred.net (bigdog.fred.net [204.215.84.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA06111 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grup@localhost) by bigdog.fred.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA05827; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:46:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:46:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Steven Grupsmith To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP in sysinstall Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to install FreeBSD Release 2.1.5 using the PPP installation. I have a 28.8 internal modem on Com 4 , IRQ 3, port 2e8. When I run the config program the new kernel recognizes the modem on Com 4. However, when I get to the part of the FTP installation where I'm using PPP on Com 4, I can't communicate with the modem with 'at' commands or to dial. I've tried going into term, starting packet mode, changing the baud rate from 115200 to 57600 to 38400. Nothing I've tried works. What is the procedure at this part of the installation? The online help and documentation for the PPP portion of the installation is extremely limited. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 19:46:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA06178 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA06162 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA21103; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 12:43:22 +1000 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 12:43:22 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199607210243.MAA21103@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl, bde@zeta.org.au Subject: Re: installation fails Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I use OS/2 BM and LILO. Both boot only from drives that the BIOS >can access, that is in my case, from drives 0 and 1. > If this doesn't work, then any bootable disk, including the install > floppy, can be used to boot almost any disk: hit the space bar to make > the boot pause, then stare at the prompt to figure out or remind > yourself of the syntax, then type the destination, which should look > something like 5:sd(2,a)/kernel for the BIOS drive 5 of 0-5 and SCSI > drive 2 of 0-2. >This fails for the same reason. The BIOS does not know about >SCSI disks, so I have to boot a kernel from floppy or from >IDE disk 0 or 1 and tell that kernel where its root filesystem is. 0:sd(2,a)/kernel would work to boot from BIOS hard drive 0 to FreeBSD SCSI drive 2. Unfortunately, `0:' means hard drive 0 - there is no way to boot from floppy drive 0 to another drive even when you have loaded the boot program from floppy drive 0. Perhaps the BIOS drive number should be the full number - 0 for floppy drive 0 and 0x80 for hard drive 0. >For Linux one uses a command line parameter "root=/dev/sdc1" >to say that it must mount the first partition of the 3rd SCSI disk >as root filesystem. But what do I say to the FreeBSD kernel? In FreeBSD the boot parameters aren't preserved yet - you have to type them at every boot or modify the boot blocks. Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 20:24:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA08113 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 20:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA08105 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 20:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nasaxp.rto.dec.com by mail1.digital.com (5.65 EXP 4/12/95 for V3.2/1.0/WV) id AA10666; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 20:15:12 -0700 Received: by nasaxp.rto.dec.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Oct95-0512PM-jmh) id AA07192; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 05:15:11 +0200 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 05:15:11 +0200 From: "Robert L. Urban" Message-Id: <9607210315.AA07192@nasaxp.rto.dec.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: floppy install of 2.2-960612-SNAP Cc: urban@rto.dec.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, It's 5:00 am and I just got done writing the 24 floopies for the install -- I'm installing a laptop and none of my PCMCIA cards are supported by PAO. The INSTALL.TXT is not very clear _what_ needs to be on the floppies and how it needs to be organized. I packed as much as I could onto each floppy (as the guide recommends) such that files from more that on distribution were mixed on one floppy, for example writing the last 4 bin chunks and the first 3 des, and so on. Is this a problem? also, on the alternate virtual terminal, I saw debug messages referring to 'mumble.inf'. I did _not_ copy these onto the floppies, as they were not mentioned in INSTALL.TXT. The following is the layout of my floppies, where the stuff to the left of the colon is the label, and to the right are the chunk names (in their respective dist subdirectories): bin 0:bin.aa bin.ab bin.ac bin.ad bin.ae bin 1:bin.af bin.ag bin.ah bin.ai bin.aj bin 2:bin.ak bin.al bin.am bin.an bin.ao bin 3:bin.ap bin.aq bin.ar bin.as bin.at bin 4:bin.au bin.av bin.aw bin.ax bin.ay bin 5:bin.az bin.ba bin.bb bin.bc bin.bd bin 6:bin.be bin.bf bin.bg bin.bh bin.bi bin 7:bin.bj bin.bk bin.bl bin.bm bin.bn bin 8:bin.bo bin.bp bin.bq bin.br bin.bs bin 9:bin.bt bin.bu bin.bv bin.bw bin.bx bin 10:bin.by bin.bz bin.ca bin.cb bin.cc bin 11:bin.cd bin.ce bin.cf bin.cg bin.ch bin/des 12:bin.ci bin.cj bin.ck bin.cl des.aa des.ab krb.aa des/dict 13:krb.ab krb.ac sebones.aa ssecure.aa ssecure.ab dict.aa dict/doc 14:dict.ab dict.ac dict.ad dict.ae dict.af doc 15:doc.aa doc.ab doc.ac doc.ad doc.ae doc/info/manpages 16:doc.af doc.ag doc.ah info.aa info.ab manpages.aa manpages 17:manpages.ab manpages.ac manpages.ad manpages.ae manpages.af manpages 18:manpages.ag manpages.ah manpages.ai manpages.aj manpages.ak manpages/proflibs/src 19:manpages.al manpages.am proflibs.aa proflibs.ab proflibs.ac proflibs.ad src 20:ssys.aa ssys.ab ssys.ac ssys.ad ssys.ae src 21:ssys.af ssys.ag ssys.ah ssys.ai ssys.aj src 22:ssys.ak ssys.al ssys.am ssys.an ssys.ao src 23:ssys.ap ssys.aq ssys.ar ssys.as ssys.at ssys.au sbase.aa src 24:sbin.aa sbin.ab sbin.ac sinclude.aa So, anyone have an idea? thanks, Rob Urban, Munich, Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 20:51:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA09668 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 20:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DGS.dgsys.com (root@dgs.dgsys.com [204.97.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA09620 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 20:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from justine.elastica.com by DGS.dgsys.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA17007; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 23:46:58 -0400 Received: (from robert@localhost) by justine.elastica.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA00718; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 23:47:51 -0400 (EDT) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Libretto20? Cc: solaris-x86@mlist.eis.com From: robert@elastica.com Date: 20 Jul 1996 23:47:50 -0400 Message-Id: Lines: 4 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.37/XEmacs 19.14 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anybody installed FreeBSD on a Libretto20? -- You are amazed that they exist and they burn so bright whilst you can only wonder why. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 21:00:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA09954 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 21:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fw.tabula.com (fw.tabula.com [204.160.137.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA09949 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 21:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fw.tabula.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06502; Sat, 20 Jul 96 21:00:51 PDT Received: from tab012.tabula.com(204.119.64.12) by fw.tabula.com via smap (V1.3) id sma006500; Sat Jul 20 21:00:09 1996 Received: by tabula.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01676; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 20:58:37 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 20:58:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Thor Clark To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: quick upgrade question Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Great upgrade sequence - I just went from 2.1.0 to 2.1.5 with ~40 minutes downtime, including manual reconfig. Really impressive. one small question - I had /usr/src symolically linked to another disk, so I didn't get the kernel source that I wanted (I forget the exact error - if /usr/src isn't a directory, there's nowhere to put everything). I think I need every ssys.* file - are there any others I should grab? (I just want to customize the kernel) How should I combine and unpack them once I've got them? (or is there a simpler way of doing this, with sysinstall...) Thanks Thor Clark thor@tabula.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 21:02:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA10005 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 21:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mixer.visi.com (root@mixer.visi.com [204.73.178.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09997 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 21:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from undquirt.visi.com (undquirt.visi.com [206.11.194.26]) by mixer.visi.com (8.7.4/8.7.5) with SMTP id XAA20215 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 23:02:26 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 23:02:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: by undquirt.visi.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB768F.77724900@undquirt.visi.com>; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 23:02:03 -0500 Message-ID: <01BB768F.77724900@undquirt.visi.com> From: "Brent J. Nordquist" To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: So, where IS crypt(1)? Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 23:01:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Someone else asked that question in the subject, but the message seemed = to be about something else. Do we have a crypt(1) program that's compatible with, oh, say SunOS and = Solaris? I have a crypt'ed file I need to unravel. (I checked the = handbook, FAQ, source tree, and ports collection but came up dry. Also, = I do have the des and eBones components compiled and installed.) Thanks! -- Brent J. Nordquist nordquis@visi.com +1 612 827-2747 -- Brent J. Nordquist nordquis@visi.com +1 612 827-2747 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 21:52:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA11641 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 21:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (root@cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.2.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11623; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 21:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA26243; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 01:51:41 -0300 (EST) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199607210451.BAA26243@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: IPX? To: jhay@mikom.csir.co.za (John Hay) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 01:51:41 -0300 (EST) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, joe@ns.via.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607200829.KAA12368@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> from John Hay at "Jul 20, 96 10:29:00 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL14 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(John Hay) // > // > I'd really like to be able to gateway TCP/IP to IPX/SPX... // > // // > // Ouch. IPX is such a mess I don't think I'd want to touch it, much less // > // try to gateway a superior protocol (TCP) to it. // > // > Do you mean that FreeBSD's IPX implementation is a mess or that IPX // > protocol stack is a mess ? // > // > Hope you mean the first (I feel this too), because IPX is a datagram // > protocol just as bad as IP in definition. // // What except for the one host address don't you like? I would really like // to know. I plan to do some more work on IPX as soon as I can get the // SDL RISCom device drivers finished. // John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za The one host problem is the first to come to my mind. I'd like also to play with other frame encapsulations like 802.3 and 802.2, but this would be just for amusement. I know there's something else, but I can't remem- ber what is it. My production machines run 2.1 which doesn't have IPX, and my desktop machine doesn't boot 2.2 (don't know why). This test has been done on a temporary basis. If I remember the problem or find anything else I'll send it to you, privately. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 ( Job ) jonny@cisi.coppe.ufrj.br Network Manager UFRJ/COPPE/CISI Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 22:27:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA12612 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12607 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srmail.sr.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA253286818; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:26:58 -0700 Received: from hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com by srmail.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA210066817; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:26:57 -0700 Received: from mina.sr.hp.com by hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA155716816; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:26:56 -0700 Message-Id: <199607210526.AA155716816@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com> To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Supported Configurations In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 19 Jul 1996 21:54:30 GMT." Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:26:56 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard (james@jraynard.demon.co.uk) wrote: > Go to http://www.freebsd.org/, follow the documentation link until you > get to the Handbook, and then read the section entitled "Jordan's > picks", which is a list of recommended hardware. Unfortunately, it's a bit out-of-date, as it still makes no mention of the Triton II chipset, while it complains that the Triton I doesn't have parity support (which the T2 has, as well as ECC). A few weeks ago, when jmb asked for comments on the "reworked" hw.sgml, I sent him some, which included info on the T2 chipset. I think Asami also mentioned that T2-based motherboards are out (I think we'd both nominate the ASUS P55T2P4 motherboard as a good solution for FreeBSD). -- Darryl Okahata Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 22:40:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA14159 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eden.apana.org.au (adam@eden.apana.org.au [203.12.236.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA14097 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from adam@localhost) by eden.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA32462 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:39:06 +1000 From: Adam Frey Message-Id: <199607210539.PAA32462@eden.apana.org.au> Subject: libg++ completeness To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:39:06 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am running a FreeBSD 2.1.0 system and have just come to need to use some libg++ classes, specifically the "Plex" classes. These classes are typically stored in /usr/include/g++/gen and are generated for use using the genclass utility. All of this comes in the libg++ source distributions. However it is missing from my FreeBSD installation and it does not appear to be available in the distribution or in a port or package or any such thing. So I ask for recommendation as to how to proceed first, and answers as to why this stuff is not there second. I could just compile and install the libg++ src but would rather not if there was a neater solution. Thanks in advance -- - Adam Frey adam@eden.apana.org.au Melbourne Australia - From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 22:40:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA14205 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salsa.habaneros.com ([207.34.140.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA14193 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jalapeno.habaneros.com (jalapeno.habaneros.com [207.34.140.98]) by salsa.habaneros.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA01513; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:26:35 -0700 Received: by jalapeno.habaneros.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB768B.BCD618E0@jalapeno.habaneros.com>; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:35:22 -0700 Message-ID: <01BB768B.BCD618E0@jalapeno.habaneros.com> From: "Neil C. Jensen" To: "'Satoshi Asami'" Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: 2.1.5R and ccd questions Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:35:15 -0700 Encoding: 277 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry for the long post, I thought I'd include the info below for reference... I've been attempting to get disk mirroring working following the directions below. I can make it to the point where I create the 1-disk ccd, however, I have troubles disklabeling it. When I attempt "disklabel -w -r ccd0 auto" I get back "disklabel: open(): No such file or directory" ---------- From: Satoshi Asami[SMTP:asami@cs.berkeley.edu] Sent: Friday, July 19, 1996 9:33 AM To: njensen@salsa.habaneros.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5R and ccd questions * Just finished installing 2.1.5R (went very smoothly, thanks * Team FreeBSD!) and thought I'd try disk mirroring using * ccd. I want to mirror the contents of my entire file system * so that I can reboot from one of the disk if the other fails. * * I have read the documentation; ccd home page and man * pages and am still unclear on exactly what I need to do. * * I have two idential SCSI drives, sd0 & sd1. Right now the OS * is installed on sd0 and I have done nothing to sd1. I'm afraid you are somewhat misunderstanding the way ccd mirroring works. Despite the name, ccd actually concatenates disk partitions, not disks themselves. The result of concatenation is a meta-device that looks like a disk, which you can further partition up by editing the disklabel. As far as I can tell, there are two ways to accomplish what you want to do. One is to mirror every partition you want as a separate ccd, and the other is to first create a mega-partition that is the size of everything except root & swap (more on this later) and divide this thing up into pieces. I'll give you an example on how to do the latter. The strategy here is to first create a 1-disk ccd on sd1, partition it up, copy everything you need onto it from sd0, then set up a 2-disk ccd with mirroring using both disks. Beware, I'm not sure at all if this will work, so make a backup of your system before you try this! * 1. recompile a new kernel with 'pseudo-device ccd 4' ? Yes. The ccd lkm unfortunately doesn't work right now. * 2. use dd to copy the contents of sd0 to sd1? (do I need * to use disklabel,partition first?) If we were just interested in copying things from one disk to another identical one, I'd say "dd if=/dev/rsd0 of=/dev/rsd1" should probably work, although I have never copied anything larger than a single partition myself. However, there is a little problem here: a filesystem on a regular partition is not the same as that on a ccd on the same partition. The ccd partition needs its own disklabel and such, so the start of the filesystem is shifted back somewhat. What I recommend would be like: (1) dd if=/dev/rsd0 of=/dev/rsd1 bs=512 count=100 This should copy the fdisk table and disklabel to sd1. The number "100" is arbirtary, I'm not sure how many is needed here. (2) disklabel -e sd1 Edit the disklabel, subtract the size of "c" from the offset of "e" (or "d" or whatever the first partition after "c" is), and use that as the size of the new "e" partition. For instance, if your partition table looked like this: 7 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 65536 0 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 4*) b: 262144 65536 swap # (Cyl. 4*- 20*) c: 4199697 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 261*) e: 32768 327680 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 20*- 22*) f: 196608 360448 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 22*- 34*) g: 3642641 557056 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 34*- 261*) You should change it to: 5 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 65536 0 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 4*) b: 262144 65536 swap # (Cyl. 4*- 20*) c: 4199697 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 261*) e: 3872017 327680 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 20*- 22*) ^^^^^^^ = 4199697 - 327680 (The number of partitions is actually the index of the last partition.) Also, don't worry about the cylinder numbers, they are comments and disklabel will fix them up for you. * 3. create the /etc/ccd.conf file with CCDF_MIRROR flag? Yes. This is what it eventually should look like: ccd0 128 CCDF_MIRROR /dev/sd0e /dev/sd1e ^^^ The interleave size shouldn't really matter, we are mirroring only two disks.... * 4. now run ccdconfig, creating device ccd0? ccdconfig won't create the devices. Use /dev/MAKEDEV to create them. "sh ./MAKEDEV ccd0" will create /dev/ccd0* and /dev/rccd0*, etc. ccdconfig is automatically run from /etc/rc if you have a /etc/ccd.conf file on your system. Now, this is what you need to do now. Remember we need to copy everything onto the 1-disk ccd on sd1 first. (1) create /etc/ccd.conf with the entry ccd0 128 0 /dev/sd1e (2) create a 1-disk ccd ccdconfig -Cv (3) edit the disklabel disklabel -wr ccd0 auto disklabel -e ccd0 Now, remember how the disklabel looked like before? # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] ... e: 32768 327680 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 20*- 22*) f: 196608 360448 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 22*- 34*) g: 3642641 557056 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 34*- 261*) Take these numbers, subtract "327680" from all the offsets, and write that as the new disklabel: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] ... e: 32768 0 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 20*- 22*) f: 196608 32768 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 22*- 34*) g: 3642641 229376 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 34*- 261*) You will also need to decrement the size of the last partition to make the whole thing fit into the size of "c". I'm not exactly sure what it's going to be, it will be a few dozen sectors less than the 3872017 we gave as the size of the whole thing. So, make sure that size(g) + offset(g) = size(c). (4) Create filesystems newfs /dev/ccd0e newfs /dev/ccd0f newfs /dev/ccd0g (5) Mount them Assuming these three partitions are mounted as /var, /usr and /a on sd0: mkdir /mnt/var /mnt/usr /mnt/a mount -o async /dev/ccd0e /mnt/var mount -o async /dev/ccd0f /mnt/usr mount -o async /dev/ccd0g /mnt/a The "-o async" mounts the drives asynchronously, which is dangerous for normal use but should be ok for this situation. It's much faster. (6) Copy the stuff over cd /var; find -x . | cpio -pmV /mnt/var cd /usr; find -x . | cpio -pmV /mnt/usr cd /a; find -x . | cpio -pmV /mnt/a * 5. is ccd0 now my device with the original filesystem installed, * except now I am mirrored? Not yet. :) Now we need to boot with root/swap from sd0 and the rest from ccd0 (sd1), and then copy the stuff back to sd0. It will be like this: (1) vi /etc/fstab Change "/dev/sd0e" to "/dev/ccd0e", etc. Don't touch the references to sd0a and sd0b! Actually, you can add a new line so that it says /dev/sd0b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/sd1b none swap sw 0 0 if you want to use the "b" partition of both disks as swap. (2) reboot The system should now come up with something like this: % mount /dev/sd0a on / (local) /dev/ccd0e on /var (local) /dev/ccd0f on /usr (local) /dev/ccd0g on /a (local) procfs on /proc (local) In addition, "pstat -s" will show both sd0b and sd1b if you added sd1b as swap. (3) edit sd0's disklabel Do a "disklabel -e sd0" and make it look identical to sd1. Now it should have sd0a, sd0b, sd0c (the whole disk) and one big partition (sd0e in our example). (4) copy stuff over to sd0 dd if=/dev/rsd1e of=/dev/rsd0e bs=65536 (5) vi /etc/ccd.conf Change it to ccd0 128 CCDF_MIRROR /dev/sd0e /dev/sd1e (6) reboot Pray it works. ;) * 6. by default, I think the system will boot from sd0. If sd0 fails, * how do I get the system to boot from sd1, will it automatically * check for a valid system there? Unfortunately, I don't think you can boot from a concatenated disk. The ccdconfig utility is run from /etc/rc, after the root partition is mounted (read-only), so any filesystem other than root should work fine. (You can even swap to a ccd if you want, the "swapon -a" is after ccdconfig in /etc/rc. ;) Of course you probably want to keep a copy of the root partition as well, so maybe you can run a find -x | cpio from cron or something. I think the easiest way to be able to boot from sd1 when sd0 goes bad would be to install the boot manager. That way you can select "disk 2" to boot from the second disk easily. Assuming you have maintained a copy of sd0a in sd1a, you should be able to boot from there. Of course, if sd0 goes totally bad and you have to take it out, sd1 will now become sd0 so it will boot from there. ;) Beware, ccd doesn't automatically check if a disk is valid, so you will have to boot the system with -s and edit the ccd.conf file to use only one disk if one of the two goes bad. Also, if you did the find -x | cpio from cron, fstab will say root is sd0a so if the (bad) sd0 is still in the system and you are booting from sd1, you have to change it to sd1a (and take out the sd0b reference as well). * 7. how do I test if ccd is working? Write something to /usr/tmp, and see lights on both disks flash. :) * Thanks in advance for your help. I will compile any responses I * get for possible inclusion in the handbook. Well, I'm not sure if this was the kind of answer you wanted, but this is what I *think* should work. Again, no guarantees, and if you don't understand the phrase "boot the system with -s", you may not want to go this far. ;) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 22:47:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA14478 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salsa.habaneros.com ([207.34.140.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA14473 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jalapeno.habaneros.com (jalapeno.habaneros.com [207.34.140.98]) by salsa.habaneros.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA01525; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:34:02 -0700 Received: by jalapeno.habaneros.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB768C.C8253040@jalapeno.habaneros.com>; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:42:50 -0700 Message-ID: <01BB768C.C8253040@jalapeno.habaneros.com> From: "Neil C. Jensen" To: "'Neil C. Jensen'" , "'questions@freebsd.org'" Cc: "'asami@cs.berkeley.edu'" Subject: RE: 2.1.5R and ccd questions Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:42:49 -0700 Encoding: 70 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry for the long post, I thought I'd include the info below for reference.... 1 . I've been attempting to get disk mirroring working following the directions below. I can make it to the point where I create the 1-disk ccd, however, I have troubles disklabeling it. When I attempt "disklabel -w -r ccd0 auto" I get back "disklabel: open(): No such file or directory". The man pages for disklabel mention that there may be problems with this, but do not give any solutions. Does anyone know how to make this work so I can label ccd0? BTW, I tried going ahead anyway and editiing the disklabel using "disklabel -e ccd", but this created errors if I just tried to label the e & f partitions. The man pages stated that some drivers only would work with "a" paritions for unlabeled disks and I tried that as well without success. Thanks in advance for your help. Neil Jensen Habanero Studios Vancouver, Canada ---------- From: Neil C. Jensen[SMTP:njensen@salsa.habaneros.com] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 1996 4:56 PM To: 'questions@freebsd.org' Cc: 'asami@cs.berkeley.edu' Subject: 2.1.5R and ccd questions Just finished installing 2.1.5R (went very smoothly, thanks Team FreeBSD!) and thought I'd try disk mirroring using ccd. I want to mirror the contents of my entire file system so that I can reboot from one of the disk if the other fails. I have read the documentation; ccd home page and man pages and am still unclear on exactly what I need to do. I have two idential SCSI drives, sd0 & sd1. Right now the OS is installed on sd0 and I have done nothing to sd1. Do I; 1. recompile a new kernel with 'pseudo-device ccd 4' ? 2. use dd to copy the contents of sd0 to sd1? (do I need to use disklabel,partition first?) 3. create the /etc/ccd.conf file with CCDF_MIRROR flag? 4. now run ccdconfig, creating device ccd0? 5. is ccd0 now my device with the original filesystem installed, except now I am mirrored? 6. by default, I think the system will boot from sd0. If sd0 fails, how do I get the system to boot from sd1, will it automatically check for a valid system there? 7. how do I test if ccd is working? Thanks in advance for your help. I will compile any responses I get for possible inclusion in the handbook. Neil Jensen Habanero Studios Ltd Vancouver, Canada From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 23:05:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA15138 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 23:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA15132 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 23:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-11.ime.net [206.231.148.140]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA09626; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 02:04:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31F1C8A0.34@ime.net> Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 02:05:20 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven Grupsmith CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP in sysinstall References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steven Grupsmith wrote: > > I am trying to install FreeBSD Release 2.1.5 using the PPP installation. > I have a 28.8 internal modem on Com 4 , IRQ 3, port 2e8. When I run the > config program the new kernel recognizes the modem on Com 4. However, > when I get to the part of the FTP installation where I'm using PPP on Com > 4, I can't communicate with the modem with 'at' commands or to dial. > I've tried going into term, starting packet mode, changing the baud rate > from 115200 to 57600 to 38400. Nothing I've tried works. What is the > procedure at this part of the installation? The online help and > documentation for the PPP portion of the installation is extremely limited. > Thanks Is IRQ3 being used on another port?? Sharing IRQ's is risky at best! If usable at all. IRQ 3 is normally used with 2f8, sio1 (Dos com2) If you have a serial card, It's more then likly using 3f8/IRQ4 for sio0 (Dos com1), 2f8/IRQ3 for sio1 (dos com2).. Disable the port at 2f8/IRQ3 on your serial card and setup your modem for 2f8/IRQ3 (Dos com2) Then access it via /dev/cuaa1 You'll have much more happiness! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 20 23:33:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA16249 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 23:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA16244 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 23:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Gecko (gecko@mrwhite.execpc.com [204.95.201.36]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id BAA10833 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 01:33:36 -0500 Message-ID: <31F1DD0A.57A6@execpc.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 01:32:26 -0600 From: Gecko Organization: Reptiles Anonymous BBS (414) 658-8380 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SyQuest EzDrive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can I put FreeBSD on a SyQuest disk and boot from that? l8r, Gecko -- Come join the fun at: Reptiles Anonymous BBS (414) 658-8380 http://www.execpc.com/~gecko -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI! -- I wonder if reality will get out of BETA testing today?!?