From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 24 03:54:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA27146 for chat-outgoing; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 03:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.monmouth.com (root@shell.monmouth.com [205.164.220.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA27139 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 03:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i4got.lakewood.com (fh-ppp7.monmouth.com [205.164.221.39]) by shell.monmouth.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA25215; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 06:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pechter@localhost) by i4got.lakewood.com id GAA02900 (8.8.5/IDA-1.6); Sun, 24 Aug 1997 06:54:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Pechter Message-ID: <199708241054.GAA02900@i4got.lakewood.com> Subject: Re: Rumors of the death of Unix have been greatly exaggerated... In-Reply-To: <19970824100019.40411@lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Aug 24, 97 10:00:19 am" To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 06:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Reply-to: pechter@lakewood.com X-Phone-Number: 908-389-3592 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Thu, Aug 21, 1997 at 04:12:49PM -0600, Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC wrote: > > 5 years ago, most superficial computer users thought that Microsoft > was the best thing since sliced bread. Nowadays, I notice significant > displeasure with Microsoft even in their own user base, even though NT > is indubitably better than DOG. In addition, the desktop market is > getting saturated, while other areas, notably telecom, are still > growing. I don't see Microsoft getting a good foothold with Telcos, > and things like the Mars landing and Deep Blue should also (if people > only knew) be good advertisments for UNIX. > > > NT, I sneer at thee! ;^) > > The German equivalent of "say no to " is ", nein danke"--No > Thanks. With that background, and abbreviated: Microsoft, NT. > > Greg > Actually, NT is doing very well within Telcos. Lucent and AT&T have moved their desktops and a number of pieces of development to NT boxes. (Price drives all decisions in the free market.) Since Unix is not a free item anymore (like it was when AT&T ran it's business on 11/70's running modified versions of V7 and SysIII) they're beginning to look to Intel hardware with cheap OS's... When I worked with an IBM group on TMN software (telecomm network management software on top of NetView) there was talk about other platforms (such as NT) being requested by a number of telcos. Deep Blue still doesn't sell a lot of AIX for IBM. (But it sure looked fairly impressive to me!) Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Pechter | 17 Meredith Drive Tinton Falls, NJ 07724 | 908-389-3592 pechter@lakewood.com | Save computing history, give an old geek old hardware. This msg brought to you by the letters PDP and the number 11.