From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Jan 20 08:38:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA10566 for mobile-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 08:38:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from garfield.panix.com (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA10516 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 08:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from larry@localhost) by garfield.panix.com (8.8.4/8.8.3) id QAA02723 for mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:34:43 GMT Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1-alpha [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 00:50:25 -0800 (PST) Resent-Message-Id: <19970120085025.16547.qmail@mpress.com> Resent-From: brian@mediacity.com Resent-To: (Larry Marso) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:27:53 -0500 (EST) From: Larry Marso To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: xmodmap & win95 keys Sender: owner-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently received the *following* instructions for reversing CapsLock and Control on my keyboard within X. That's great, but I'd also like to configure a Control key for my right hand. There are three (absolutely unused!) Windows 95 keys on my laptop. Two, on either side of my spacebar, are "moving windows", and a third, on the right side of my spacebar, is a "startup button" key. Anyone know how to specify and reconfigure these windows95 keys in a xmodmap command? -------------------------------------------------------- >>>reversing CapsLock and Control<<< create a file (I call mine .modmap) which contains: ! ! Swap Caps_Lock and Control_L ! remove Lock = Caps_Lock remove Control = Control_L keysym Control_L = Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L add Lock = Caps_Lock add Control = Control_L And then run the command xmodmap .modmap after the Xserver is up. --------------------------------- Larry Marso date: 20-Jan-97 Time: 11:27:53 From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Jan 20 15:16:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA07666 for mobile-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:16:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA07607 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id JAA02792; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:45:53 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199701202315.JAA02792@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: xmodmap & win95 keys In-Reply-To: from Larry Marso at "Jan 20, 97 11:27:53 am" To: lsmarso@panix.com (Larry Marso) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:45:52 +1030 (CST) Cc: mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Larry Marso stands accused of saying: > I recently received the *following* instructions for reversing CapsLock and > Control on my keyboard within X. That's great, but I'd also like to configure a > Control key for my right hand. There are three (absolutely unused!) Windows 95 > keys on my laptop. Two, on either side of my spacebar, are "moving windows", > and a third, on the right side of my spacebar, is a "startup button" key. > > Anyone know how to specify and reconfigure these windows95 keys in a xmodmap > command? First find out if they do anything; run 'xev', point in the window and hit the keys; make a note of the keycodes and/or keysyms they generate, then read the 'xmodmap' manpage. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jan 21 11:22:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA06999 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:22:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA06994 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA24722; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:22:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:22:44 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Michael Smith cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cirrus 7548 / Gateway Solo modes? In-Reply-To: <199701190238.NAA24217@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Michael Smith wrote: > > Anyone have any modelines that work, or any good guesses? I can get the X > > server to start, but the display is messed up, for example the display > > repeats every few inches in horizontal bands. Also the display turns > > white, as if the brightness is turned all the way up. > > The XFree support for the Cirrus 75* chips is pretty unwonderful. If > you want to hack on it, they'd love to hear from you; if not, go pay a > visit to www.xinside.com and hand Thomas a few of your readies. Their > server works quite well, although you may have to turn off accelerated > support to get it 100%. Spending money is not what I wanted to do :( I was looking for any modelines (or any good guesses for modelines). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jan 21 16:12:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA24533 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA24528 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:12:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id KAA09372; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:42:28 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199701220012.KAA09372@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: What PCMCIA ethernet card supported/recommended? In-Reply-To: <87enfeishu.fsf@localhost.xs4all.nl> from Peter Mutsaers at "Jan 21, 97 11:16:29 pm" To: plm@xs4all.nl (Peter Mutsaers) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:42:27 +1030 (CST) Cc: mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (redirected to -mobile, where this belongs) Peter Mutsaers stands accused of saying: > > The handbook says that 3com 3c589 and IBM/National Semiconductor > PCMCIA cards are supported. Are these still the only two in -current? No; most "NE2000-compatible" PCCARDs are supported as well. > The 3com is pretty expensive, so if there's a cheaper alternative I'd > like it. We've been using the Accton EN2216 quite a bit; it's about as cheap as you get, and works flawlessly. > In short, I hope someone can give me some advice on what card is > recommended (without being too expensive) for -current; I'd rather > have direct support and not depend on PAO. At this point in time, installing with a PCCARD ethernet card is problematic, however once you have you system up and going, the above is a perfectly workable solution. Avoid 'combo' modem/ether cards; they're not supported (and would be a royal pain in the rear to support, in fact). > Peter Mutsaers | Abcoude (Utrecht), | Trust is a good quality -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jan 21 16:46:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA27340 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:46:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA27329 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:46:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id LAA09951; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:16:21 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199701220046.LAA09951@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Cirrus 7548 / Gateway Solo modes? In-Reply-To: from Doug White at "Jan 21, 97 11:22:44 am" To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:16:20 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White stands accused of saying: > On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Michael Smith wrote: > > > > The XFree support for the Cirrus 75* chips is pretty unwonderful. If > > you want to hack on it, they'd love to hear from you; if not, go pay a > > visit to www.xinside.com and hand Thomas a few of your readies. Their > > server works quite well, although you may have to turn off accelerated > > support to get it 100%. > > Spending money is not what I wanted to do :( I was looking for any > modelines (or any good guesses for modelines). Er, a modeline isn't going to help if the _driver_doesn't_work_, now is it? > Doug White | University of Oregon -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jan 21 16:59:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA28075 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:59:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA28068 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:59:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA22967; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:59:40 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:59:40 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701220059.RAA22967@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Michael Smith Cc: plm@xs4all.nl (Peter Mutsaers), mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What PCMCIA ethernet card supported/recommended? In-Reply-To: <199701220012.KAA09372@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> References: <87enfeishu.fsf@localhost.xs4all.nl> <199701220012.KAA09372@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > At this point in time, installing with a PCCARD ethernet card is > problematic, however once you have you system up and going, the above is > a perfectly workable solution. True. However, the PAO boot floppy might work well if it's all you have. > Avoid 'combo' modem/ether cards; they're not supported (and would be a > royal pain in the rear to support, in fact). Actually, I've been looking at the code recently, and most of the code is already sutup to have multiple-drivers/card, so it's less hard than I originally thought. However, the entire interrupt mechanism needs some serious work. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jan 21 17:04:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA28387 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA28377 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:04:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id LAA10230; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:34:10 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199701220104.LAA10230@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: What PCMCIA ethernet card supported/recommended? In-Reply-To: <199701220059.RAA22967@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Jan 21, 97 05:59:40 pm" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:34:08 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, plm@xs4all.nl, mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams stands accused of saying: > > True. However, the PAO boot floppy might work well if it's all you > have. Yes, and hats off to Tatsumi-san for keeping it going too... > > Avoid 'combo' modem/ether cards; they're not supported (and would be a > > royal pain in the rear to support, in fact). > > Actually, I've been looking at the code recently, and most of the code > is already sutup to have multiple-drivers/card, so it's less hard than I > originally thought. Hmm; how does one go about demuxing the interrupt? (With the price tag on the PCCARD spec, I'm really forced to guess and infer on stuff like this 8( ) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jan 21 17:30:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA00571 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:30:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA00566 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA23116; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:30:03 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:30:03 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701220130.SAA23116@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Michael Smith Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What PCMCIA ethernet card supported/recommended? In-Reply-To: <199701220104.LAA10230@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> References: <199701220059.RAA22967@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199701220104.LAA10230@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Avoid 'combo' modem/ether cards; they're not supported (and would be a > > > royal pain in the rear to support, in fact). > > > > Actually, I've been looking at the code recently, and most of the code > > is already sutup to have multiple-drivers/card, so it's less hard than I > > originally thought. > > Hmm; how does one go about demuxing the interrupt? (With the price tag > on the PCCARD spec, I'm really forced to guess and infer on stuff > like this 8( ) That's the fun part. Since the interrupt handler occurs in the pccard code (pcintr()), one has to determine which 'device' generated it. I have the spec., but I haven't looked at it closely, but there's gotta be a way. [Digging out my spec.] Hmm, nothing obvious jumps out at me, but I suspect that a 'device' sets a big in one of the CIS-Tuples that said it generated the IRQ. But, I could be completely out to lunch. :) Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jan 21 17:36:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA01044 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:36:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA01027 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA23158; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:36:00 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:36:00 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701220136.SAA23158@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Nate Williams Cc: Michael Smith , mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What PCMCIA ethernet card supported/recommended? In-Reply-To: <199701220130.SAA23116@rocky.mt.sri.com> References: <199701220059.RAA22967@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199701220104.LAA10230@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> <199701220130.SAA23116@rocky.mt.sri.com> Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hmm; how does one go about demuxing the interrupt? (With the price tag > > on the PCCARD spec, I'm really forced to guess and infer on stuff > > like this 8( ) > .. > [Digging out my spec.] > > Hmm, nothing obvious jumps out at me, but I suspect that a 'device' sets > a big in one of the CIS-Tuples that said it generated the IRQ. > > But, I could be completely out to lunch. :) I found it in a different book. (They are like 12 of them). Card Services determines which function has interrupted by reading each function's INTR bit in the Function Configuration and Status Register (FCSR). After the IRS is completed, Card Services will clear the interrupt by writing a zero to the INTR bit in the function that has just been serviced. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Jan 22 12:29:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA25379 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:29:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25365 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:29:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA04461; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:29:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:29:38 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Michael Smith cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cirrus 7548 / Gateway Solo modes? In-Reply-To: <199701220046.LAA09951@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Michael Smith wrote: > > Spending money is not what I wanted to do :( I was looking for any > > modelines (or any good guesses for modelines). > > Er, a modeline isn't going to help if the _driver_doesn't_work_, now > is it? I guess it's a question of whether it's the driver's fault or a bad mode... I had a suggestion to try xvidtune; next I have the machine I'll try it. Thanks for your help. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Jan 22 20:43:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA26641 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 20:43:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from magigimmix.xs4all.nl (magigimmix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26606; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 20:43:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from asterix.xs4all.nl (asterix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.11]) by magigimmix.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with ESMTP id FAA15400; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 05:42:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from plm.xs4all.nl (uucp@localhost) by asterix.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/8.7.2) with UUCP id FAA09407; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 05:31:27 +0100 (MET) Received: (from plm@localhost) by plm.xs4all.nl (8.8.4/8.7.3) id AAA03711; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:13:32 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:13:32 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199701222313.AAA03711@plm.xs4all.nl> From: Peter Mutsaers To: Michael Smith Cc: mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What PCMCIA ethernet card supported/recommended? In-Reply-To: <199701220012.KAA09372@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> References: <87enfeishu.fsf@localhost.xs4all.nl> <199701220012.KAA09372@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> On Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:42:27 +1030 (CST), Michael Smith >> said: MS> (redirected to -mobile, where this belongs) Indeed, but also to current, since I wondered what is exactly supported in -current (the handbook might be out of date). Also I'm not subscribed to -mobile. MS> Peter Mutsaers stands accused of saying: >> >> The handbook says that 3com 3c589 and IBM/National Semiconductor >> PCMCIA cards are supported. Are these still the only two in -current? MS> No; most "NE2000-compatible" PCCARDs are supported as well. Good, they are much cheaper. I might try one of those then. But what does most mean? Is it a matter of trying? I fear that once I order one and it doesn't work, I won't be able to return it. >> In short, I hope someone can give me some advice on what card is >> recommended (without being too expensive) for -current; I'd rather >> have direct support and not depend on PAO. MS> At this point in time, installing with a PCCARD ethernet card MS> is problematic, however once you have you system up and going, MS> the above is a perfectly workable solution. Why? Hasn't the generic kernel on the boot floppy the supported PCCARD ethernet cards configured in? By the way, with my Megahertz card (with a PAO kernel, sn driver) I have a strange problem. I do see incoming packets (through the LED), and the LED also says it is sending packets. But somehow nothing is appearing on the wire. It is a UTP/BNC combo card. Is it possible that it receives on BNC (which I use) but it tries to send on UTP? Does anyone have similar problems? -- Peter Mutsaers | Abcoude (Utrecht), | Trust is a good quality plm@xs4all.nl | the Netherlands | for other people to have From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Jan 22 21:12:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA27746 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27741 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:12:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id PAA19377; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:40:54 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199701230510.PAA19377@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: What PCMCIA ethernet card supported/recommended? In-Reply-To: <199701222313.AAA03711@plm.xs4all.nl> from Peter Mutsaers at "Jan 23, 97 00:13:32 am" To: plm@xs4all.nl (Peter Mutsaers) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:40:52 +1030 (CST) Cc: mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Peter Mutsaers stands accused of saying: > >> On Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:42:27 +1030 (CST), Michael Smith > >> said: > > MS> (redirected to -mobile, where this belongs) > > Indeed, but also to current, since I wondered what is exactly > supported in -current (the handbook might be out of date). Also I'm > not subscribed to -mobile. Re-removed from current. Peter, anyone that's interested in mobile stuff, current or otherwise, is going to be on the mobile list. Please don't spam people like this! > > MS> No; most "NE2000-compatible" PCCARDs are supported as well. > > Good, they are much cheaper. I might try one of those then. > But what does most mean? Is it a matter of trying? I fear that once I > order one and it doesn't work, I won't be able to return it. "most" means that I'm not a millionaire; I've tested the one(s) that I can get my hands on, or that I can find other people with. The Accton card is a "brand name" product, you should be able to get it locally. If you're buying from a vendor that won't let you try beforehand, or at the very least let you exchange for another, then you're buying frm the wrong vendor. > MS> At this point in time, installing with a PCCARD ethernet card > MS> is problematic, however once you have you system up and going, > MS> the above is a perfectly workable solution. > > Why? Hasn't the generic kernel on the boot floppy the supported PCCARD > ethernet cards configured in? PCCARD support requires the card management daemon and parameters database, which are bulky. Until very recently, the boot floppy was bursting at the seams, so there was no way to get them integrated. The nature of the card management daemon is such that it's still not likely to be entirely helpful, as not all cards are in the database. > Peter Mutsaers | Abcoude (Utrecht), | Trust is a good quality -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Jan 22 21:28:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA28249 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:28:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28244; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:28:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA28901; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:28:31 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:28:31 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701230528.WAA28901@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Peter Mutsaers Cc: Michael Smith , mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What PCMCIA ethernet card supported/recommended? In-Reply-To: <199701222313.AAA03711@plm.xs4all.nl> References: <87enfeishu.fsf@localhost.xs4all.nl> <199701220012.KAA09372@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> <199701222313.AAA03711@plm.xs4all.nl> Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > MS> At this point in time, installing with a PCCARD ethernet card > MS> is problematic, however once you have you system up and going, > MS> the above is a perfectly workable solution. > > Why? Hasn't the generic kernel on the boot floppy the supported PCCARD > ethernet cards configured in? No, because there is no 'generic' support for PCCARD ethernet cards. There is specific support for 'known' cards, but the current pccardd daemons and such have not been very well abstracted out to live in the install tools. (No offense to Tatsumi-san). Nate