From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 9 11:57:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA01524 for mobile-outgoing; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 11:57:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from dragon.awen.com (dragon.awen.com [207.33.155.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA01513 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 11:57:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mburgett@dragon.awen.com) Received: (from mburgett@localhost) by dragon.awen.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA11473; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 11:56:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711091956.LAA11473@dragon.awen.com> From: "Mike Burgett" To: "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" Date: Sun, 09 Nov 97 11:56:59 -0800 Reply-To: "Mike Burgett" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Thinkpad 760ED Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've made a deal on the above model, and will have it later this week. Once FreeBSD is installed, and configured, I'd like to look into drivers for the mwave card and mpeg chip this machine has. Is anyone actively working on this, if so, I'd like to help, and if not I guess I'll be taking it on myself, assuming I can pry the necessary info out of IBM. If there's pre-existing work that's been abandoned, or set aside for some reason, it would be interesting to have a pointer to that as well, for reference purposes, if nothing else... Thanks, Mike From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 9 13:41:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA06728 for mobile-outgoing; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 13:41:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA06718 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 13:41:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA11266; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 14:40:57 -0700 (MST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA06052; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 14:40:54 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 14:40:54 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711092140.OAA06052@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Mike Burgett" Cc: "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760ED In-Reply-To: <199711091956.LAA11473@dragon.awen.com> References: <199711091956.LAA11473@dragon.awen.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've made a deal on the above model, and will have it later this week. Once > FreeBSD is installed, and configured, I'd like to look into drivers for the > mwave card and mpeg chip this machine has. Someone at IBM-Japan wrote a driver for a couple of the 'propriatary' chips on the machine for Linux, but IBM corporate wouldn't allow him to release the driver. Hopefully you'll have better luck. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 9 18:27:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA25010 for mobile-outgoing; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 18:27:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA24977 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 18:27:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0xUjZS-00040T-00; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 19:27:22 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.8.7/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA20649 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 19:27:47 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711100227.TAA20649@harmony.village.org> To: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: A little tk program Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 19:27:46 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ok. I have a small tcl/tk prorgam that works under tk 4.2 (since I have ical installed). It displays the current battary level. It should work with 8.0 as well. Enjoy. Comments welcome. Only about 1M of memory is needed :-(. Warner P.S. You need to run this as root, or have apm be setuid root. P.P.S. Mike Smith: now I understand why you like tk so much.... #! /usr/local/bin/wish4.2 proc updateBattery {} { global batteryLevel set batteryLevel [exec apm -l] wm iconname . [format "%d%%" $batteryLevel] after 30000 updateBattery } label .label -text "Battery Level" pack .label scale .scale -from 0 -to 100 \ -length 100 \ -variable batteryLevel \ -orient horizontal \ -showvalue true pack .scale updateBattery From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 9 19:24:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA28032 for mobile-outgoing; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 19:24:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from word.smith.net.au (vh1.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA28024 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 19:24:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.gsoft.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00665; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:50:01 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199711100320.NAA00665@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Warner Losh cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A little tk program In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 Nov 1997 19:27:46 PDT." <199711100227.TAA20649@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:50:00 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > ok. I have a small tcl/tk prorgam that works under tk 4.2 (since I > have ical installed). It displays the current battary level. It > should work with 8.0 as well. Enjoy. Comments welcome. Only about > 1M of memory is needed :-(. ... but if ical is running that's shared. 8) If you were feeling enthusiastic, you could have it change its icon title while minimised, eg. from [##########] 100 to [ ] 0... > Warner > > P.S. You need to run this as root, or have apm be setuid root. Er, I don't think so. Certainly, apm will give me power status as non-root. > P.P.S. Mike Smith: now I understand why you like tk so much.... *grin* > scale .scale -from 0 -to 100 \ > -length 100 \ > -variable batteryLevel \ > -orient horizontal \ > -showvalue true Wow, now I can set the battery level too! 8) Here's a slightly modified version that implements a bargraph in the icon title, adds some colour and shrinks it a little to make the most of precious laptop real estate. You might also want to configure your window manager to hide the decorations on the window to make it smaller again. mike #!/bin/sh # tcl magic \ exec wish8.0 -f $0 $* proc updateBattery {} { global batteryLevel; set batteryLevel [exec apm -l]; set hashes [string range "##########" 0 [expr $batteryLevel / 10]]; wm iconname . [format "\[%-10s\] %d%%" $hashes $batteryLevel]; if {$batteryLevel < 20} { .scale configure -troughcolor red; } else { if {$batteryLevel < 40} { .scale configure -troughcolor yellow; } else { .scale configure -troughcolor green; } } after 30000 updateBattery; } label .label -text "Battery Level" -font 6x10; pack .label -side left; scale .scale -from 0 -to 100 \ -length 100 \ -variable batteryLevel \ -orient horizontal \ -showvalue true \ -font 5x8 \ -width 5 \ -sliderlength 4 \ -state disabled; pack .scale -side right; wm title . "batterylevel"; update idletasks; wm resizable . 0 0; updateBattery; From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 9 19:42:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA29098 for mobile-outgoing; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 19:42:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from loverso.southborough.ma.us (simplon.osf.org [130.105.7.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA29091 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 19:42:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@loverso.southborough.ma.us) Received: from localhost.southborough.ma.us (localhost.southborough.ma.us [127.0.0.1]) by loverso.southborough.ma.us (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA23061; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 22:40:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711100340.WAA23061@loverso.southborough.ma.us> X-Authentication-Warning: loverso.southborough.ma.us: localhost.southborough.ma.us [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Warner Losh Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A little tk program In-reply-to: Message from Warner Losh <199711100227.TAA20649@harmony.village.org> . X-Face: "UZ!}1W2N?eJdN(`1%|/OOPqJ).Idk?UyvWw'W-%`Gto8^IkEm>.g1O$[.;~}8E=Ire0|lO .o>:NlJS1@vO9bVmswRoq3j DdX9YGSeJ5a(mfX[1u>Z63G5_^+'8LVqjqvn X-Url: http://www.osf.org/~loverso/ Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 22:40:56 -0500 From: John Robert LoVerso Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Add ".scale config -state disabled" to prevent someone from manually moving the slider. John From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 9 22:27:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA07045 for mobile-outgoing; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 22:27:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA07039 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 22:27:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0xUnKA-00046O-00; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 23:27:50 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.8.7/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA25538; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 23:28:16 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711100628.XAA25538@harmony.village.org> To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: A little tk program Cc: mobile@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:50:00 +1030." <199711100320.NAA00665@word.smith.net.au> References: <199711100320.NAA00665@word.smith.net.au> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 23:28:16 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199711100320.NAA00665@word.smith.net.au> Mike Smith writes: : > P.S. You need to run this as root, or have apm be setuid root. : : Er, I don't think so. Certainly, apm will give me power status as : non-root. Doesn't for me. I got permission failed before I made apm setuid root. : Wow, now I can set the battery level too! 8) I was somewhat hopeful that I could speed the charging of my battery in this way :-). Too bad that didn't work.... : Here's a slightly modified version that implements a bargraph in the : icon title, adds some colour and shrinks it a little to make the most : of precious laptop real estate. You might also want to configure your : window manager to hide the decorations on the window to make it smaller : again. Thanks for the update. It helps me to understand this stuff better. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 9 22:41:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA07652 for mobile-outgoing; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 22:41:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from word.smith.net.au (vh1.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA07640 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 22:41:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.gsoft.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01738; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:05:57 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199711100635.RAA01738@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Warner Losh cc: Mike Smith , mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A little tk program In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 Nov 1997 23:28:16 PDT." <199711100628.XAA25538@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:05:57 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > In message <199711100320.NAA00665@word.smith.net.au> Mike Smith writes: > : > P.S. You need to run this as root, or have apm be setuid root. > : > : Er, I don't think so. Certainly, apm will give me power status as > : non-root. > > Doesn't for me. I got permission failed before I made apm setuid > root. /dev/apm is 0660 root.operator. I'm in operator, so it works for me. Generally if you're on the console on a laptop you want to be in operator so you can 'shutdown -h now'. mike From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 10 09:44:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA14323 for mobile-outgoing; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:44:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA14278 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:43:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0xUxsJ-0004Pj-00; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:43:47 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.8.7/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA28252; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:44:18 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711101744.KAA28252@harmony.village.org> To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: A little tk program Cc: mobile@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:05:57 +1030." <199711100635.RAA01738@word.smith.net.au> References: <199711100635.RAA01738@word.smith.net.au> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:44:17 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199711100635.RAA01738@word.smith.net.au> Mike Smith writes: : /dev/apm is 0660 root.operator. I'm in operator, so it works for me. : Generally if you're on the console on a laptop you want to be in : operator so you can 'shutdown -h now'. Hmm. I've been doing sudo halt myself. I'll have to try being in operator and see what that does for me. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 10 10:47:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA19066 for mobile-outgoing; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:47:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from gvr.gvr.org (root@gvr.gvr.org [194.151.74.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA18995; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:46:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from guido@gvr.org) Received: (from guido@localhost) by gvr.gvr.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id TAA26362; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 19:45:53 +0100 (MET) From: Guido van Rooij Message-Id: <199711101845.TAA26362@gvr.gvr.org> Subject: multi sector io on IBM-DMCA-21440 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 19:45:53 +0100 (MET) Cc: FreeBSD-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD-hackers) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk IS anyone using multi-sector IO successfully on his laptop? I am having problems when running a Compaq Armada 1130 with multi-sector io. The wd controller is identified as follows: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0x80008000 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit wd0: 1376MB (2818368 sectors), 2796 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S When I would enable multi-sector io, the filesystem is severely corrupted (without the driver giving any errors at all.) I configured it with flas 0x80ff80ff. -Guido From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 01:41:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA11731 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 01:41:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from gvr.gvr.org (root@gvr.gvr.org [194.151.74.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA11724 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 01:41:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from guido@gvr.org) Received: (from guido@localhost) by gvr.gvr.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id KAA28845 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:40:57 +0100 (MET) From: Guido van Rooij Message-Id: <199711110940.KAA28845@gvr.gvr.org> Subject: sio: probe test 3 failed To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:40:57 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sometimes, after suspending my system, my modem card is not properly reallocated. What happens is that the kernel prints: Card inserted, slot 1 sio1: probe test 3 failed Removing and resinserting the card does not help anymore. Taking a look at the sio driver, one can read: if (idev->id_irq != 0) failures[3] = isa_irq_pending(idev) ? 0 : 1; Inserting another modem card (same irq) gives: Card inserted, slot 1 Nov 10 23:34:22 mouse pccardd[41]: No free configuration for card Intelligent So somehow something seems still resident in the sio driver preventing this new modem card to be properly initialised. The same thing also makes the third test fail. Would you have a clue on what can be wrong? Bruce suggested that the irq might have changed preventing test 3 from succeeding. This would also explain that sio1 is kept resident depsite the removal of the modem card which leads to pccardd logging that no free driver is available. -Guido From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 05:02:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA20830 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 05:02:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from iglou1 (exim@iglou1.iglou.com [192.107.41.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA20823 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 05:02:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patrick@cre8tivegroup.com) Received: from gateway.cre8tivegroup.com [204.255.227.99] by iglou1 with smtp (8.7.3/8.6.12) id 0xVFxS-0007OS-00; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:02:19 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199711110940.KAA28845@gvr.gvr.org> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:01:04 -0500 (EST) Organization: The Creative Group From: Patrick Gardella To: Guido van Rooij Subject: RE: sio: probe test 3 failed Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What kind of modem is this and which version of FreeBSD do you have installed? I ran into this trouble with a 2.2.1 system and a Hayes K56Flex internal modem. Never got it to work. And no one else has reported to -questions that they have gotten one to work. X2, yes. K56Flex, no. Patrick On 11-Nov-97 Guido van Rooij wrote: >Sometimes, after suspending my system, my modem card is not properly >reallocated. What happens is that the kernel prints: > Card inserted, slot 1 > sio1: probe test 3 failed > >Removing and resinserting the card does not help anymore. >Taking a look at the sio driver, one can read: > if (idev->id_irq != 0) > failures[3] = isa_irq_pending(idev) ? 0 : 1; >Inserting another modem card (same irq) gives: > Card inserted, slot 1 > Nov 10 23:34:22 mouse pccardd[41]: No free configuration for card Intelligent > >So somehow something seems still resident in the sio driver preventing this >new modem card to be properly initialised. The same thing also makes >the third test fail. Would you have a clue on what can be wrong? > >Bruce suggested that the irq might have changed preventing test 3 from >succeeding. This would also explain that sio1 is kept resident depsite the >removal of the modem card which leads to pccardd logging that no free >driver is available. > >-Guido From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 06:08:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA24216 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 06:08:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from gvr.gvr.org (root@gvr.gvr.org [194.151.74.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA24209 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 06:08:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from guido@gvr.org) Received: (from guido@localhost) by gvr.gvr.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id PAA29628; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:08:09 +0100 (MET) From: Guido van Rooij Message-Id: <199711111408.PAA29628@gvr.gvr.org> Subject: Re: sio: probe test 3 failed In-Reply-To: from Patrick Gardella at "Nov 11, 97 08:01:04 am" To: patrick@cre8tivegroup.com (Patrick Gardella) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:08:09 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Patrick Gardella wrote: > What kind of modem is this and which version of FreeBSD do you have installed? > > I ran into this trouble with a 2.2.1 system and a Hayes K56Flex internal modem. > Never got it to work. And no one else has reported to -questions that they > have gotten one to work. X2, yes. K56Flex, no. > ?? The modem does work. This only happens (sometimes) after suspending the system. Apparently some state changes. If your modem fails this test, either the modem or the complete test is broken. -Guido > Patrick > > On 11-Nov-97 Guido van Rooij wrote: > >Sometimes, after suspending my system, my modem card is not properly > >reallocated. What happens is that the kernel prints: > > Card inserted, slot 1 > > sio1: probe test 3 failed > > > >Removing and resinserting the card does not help anymore. > >Taking a look at the sio driver, one can read: > > if (idev->id_irq != 0) > > failures[3] = isa_irq_pending(idev) ? 0 : 1; > >Inserting another modem card (same irq) gives: > > Card inserted, slot 1 > > Nov 10 23:34:22 mouse pccardd[41]: No free configuration for card Intelligent > > > >So somehow something seems still resident in the sio driver preventing this > >new modem card to be properly initialised. The same thing also makes > >the third test fail. Would you have a clue on what can be wrong? > > > >Bruce suggested that the irq might have changed preventing test 3 from > >succeeding. This would also explain that sio1 is kept resident depsite the > >removal of the modem card which leads to pccardd logging that no free > >driver is available. > > > >-Guido > -- Guido van Rooij | guido@gvr.org <--- NOTE NEW ADDRESS Herman heijermanslaan 21 | Phone: ++31.40.2127794 5644 TG Eindhoven | The Netherlands | FreeBSD core-team member From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 08:33:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA03745 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:33:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA03727 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:33:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01575; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 09:33:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA16494; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 09:33:38 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 09:33:38 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711111633.JAA16494@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Guido van Rooij Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sio: probe test 3 failed In-Reply-To: <199711110940.KAA28845@gvr.gvr.org> References: <199711110940.KAA28845@gvr.gvr.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Sometimes, after suspending my system, my modem card is not properly > reallocated. What happens is that the kernel prints: > Card inserted, slot 1 > sio1: probe test 3 failed > > Removing and resinserting the card does not help anymore. > Taking a look at the sio driver, one can read: > if (idev->id_irq != 0) > failures[3] = isa_irq_pending(idev) ? 0 : 1; > Inserting another modem card (same irq) gives: > Card inserted, slot 1 > Nov 10 23:34:22 mouse pccardd[41]: No free configuration for card Intelligent It may be related to 'interrupts' not being properly let go in the system. The interrupt masks and such are assumed to always be 'added' in update_intr_mask(), so it's possible that the interrupt is lost. > So somehow something seems still resident in the sio driver preventing this > new modem card to be properly initialised. The same thing also makes > the third test fail. Would you have a clue on what can be wrong? The sio driver *is* resident, due to hardware race bugs, but marked as unused. However, as you are already aware, it's possible that something is still using it. :( > Bruce suggested that the irq might have changed preventing test 3 from > succeeding. This would also explain that sio1 is kept resident depsite the > removal of the modem card which leads to pccardd logging that no free > driver is available. How could the irq have changed? The pccard sources *always* use the same interrupt (especially if it's hard-coded), and assuming that they recognize the card's removal and insertion (and nothing else has occurred in between) they will always use the same interrupt as well, since they keep track of their own interrupt mask for consistancy (much to Bruce's chargrin). Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 08:39:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA04009 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:39:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA04002 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:39:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01605; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 09:38:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA16515; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 09:38:30 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 09:38:30 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711111638.JAA16515@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Guido van Rooij Cc: patrick@cre8tivegroup.com (Patrick Gardella), freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sio: probe test 3 failed In-Reply-To: <199711111408.PAA29628@gvr.gvr.org> References: <199711111408.PAA29628@gvr.gvr.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > ?? The modem does work. This only happens (sometimes) after suspending > the system. Apparently some state changes. Do you get the 'Card disabled, slot 1', and then 'Card inserted, slot 1' when this happens? If not, then there *is* a known bug that I have yet to fix w/regards to 'losing' insertion messages, or it's possible your PCIC controller might need to be reset. Can you try enabling machdep:pccard.pcic_resume_reset to 1 and see if that makes any difference. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 10:13:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA10071 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:13:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from gvr.gvr.org (root@gvr.gvr.org [194.151.74.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA10060 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:12:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from guido@gvr.org) Received: (from guido@localhost) by gvr.gvr.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id TAA00378; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:12:24 +0100 (MET) From: Guido van Rooij Message-Id: <199711111812.TAA00378@gvr.gvr.org> Subject: Re: sio: probe test 3 failed In-Reply-To: <199711111638.JAA16515@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Nov 11, 97 09:38:30 am" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:12:24 +0100 (MET) Cc: patrick@cre8tivegroup.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams wrote: > > ?? The modem does work. This only happens (sometimes) after suspending > > the system. Apparently some state changes. > > Do you get the 'Card disabled, slot 1', and then 'Card inserted, slot 1' > when this happens? If not, then there *is* a known bug that I have yet > to fix w/regards to 'losing' insertion messages, or it's possible your > PCIC controller might need to be reset. Can you try enabling > machdep:pccard.pcic_resume_reset to 1 and see if that makes any > difference. I do get the insertion messages: Card inserted, slot 1 Card inserted, slot 0 sio1: probe test 3 failed Nov 11 19:09:59 mouse pccardd[41]: driver allocation failed for Nokia Mobile Phones ep0: utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:60:97:8e:e3:ff -Guido From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 10:20:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA10713 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:20:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from gvr.gvr.org (root@gvr.gvr.org [194.151.74.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA10703 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:20:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from guido@gvr.org) Received: (from guido@localhost) by gvr.gvr.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id TAA00391; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:19:56 +0100 (MET) From: Guido van Rooij Message-Id: <199711111819.TAA00391@gvr.gvr.org> Subject: Re: sio: probe test 3 failed In-Reply-To: <199711111633.JAA16494@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Nov 11, 97 09:33:38 am" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:19:56 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams wrote: > > Sometimes, after suspending my system, my modem card is not properly > > reallocated. What happens is that the kernel prints: > > Card inserted, slot 1 > > sio1: probe test 3 failed > > > > Removing and resinserting the card does not help anymore. > > Taking a look at the sio driver, one can read: > > if (idev->id_irq != 0) > > failures[3] = isa_irq_pending(idev) ? 0 : 1; > > Inserting another modem card (same irq) gives: > > Card inserted, slot 1 > > Nov 10 23:34:22 mouse pccardd[41]: No free configuration for card Intelligent > > It may be related to 'interrupts' not being properly let go in the > system. The interrupt masks and such are assumed to always be 'added' > in update_intr_mask(), so it's possible that the interrupt is lost. > > > So somehow something seems still resident in the sio driver preventing this > > new modem card to be properly initialised. The same thing also makes > > the third test fail. Would you have a clue on what can be wrong? > > The sio driver *is* resident, due to hardware race bugs, but marked as > unused. However, as you are already aware, it's possible that something > is still using it. :( Not only possible, it *is* still being used, proved by the fact that insertion of another modem card gives the 'no free configuration' message. What is weird is that the following happens: Have the Nokia modem card in slot 0 suspend resume (sometimes) it gives: sio1: test 3 failes remove the card resinsert it sio1: test 3 fails remove the card insert another modem card, for the same irq see that there is no free config So somehow pccardd also thinks that the first modem card is still present although it's not. So apparently, the unregistering of the card during suspend did not work. Let me check my logs.... Here it is: Nov 2 15:21:50 mouse su: guido to root on /dev/ttyv0 Nov 2 15:26:09 mouse /kernel: ep0: unload Nov 2 15:26:09 mouse /kernel: Return IRQ=10 Nov 2 15:26:09 mouse /kernel: stray irq 10 Nov 2 15:26:09 mouse /kernel: Card disabled, slot 0 Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA15148 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:24:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA15138 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:24:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02714; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:24:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA17322; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:24:16 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:24:16 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711111924.MAA17322@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Guido van Rooij Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), patrick@cre8tivegroup.com, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sio: probe test 3 failed In-Reply-To: <199711111812.TAA00378@gvr.gvr.org> References: <199711111638.JAA16515@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199711111812.TAA00378@gvr.gvr.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > ?? The modem does work. This only happens (sometimes) after suspending > > > the system. Apparently some state changes. > > > > Do you get the 'Card disabled, slot 1', and then 'Card inserted, slot 1' > > when this happens? If not, then there *is* a known bug that I have yet > > to fix w/regards to 'losing' insertion messages, or it's possible your > > PCIC controller might need to be reset. Can you try enabling > > machdep:pccard.pcic_resume_reset to 1 and see if that makes any > > difference. > > I do get the insertion messages: > Card inserted, slot 1 > Card inserted, slot 0 Do you get the card disabled messages as well? Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 11:26:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA15279 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:26:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA15266 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:26:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02729; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:26:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA17332; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:26:33 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:26:33 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711111926.MAA17332@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Guido van Rooij Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sio: probe test 3 failed In-Reply-To: <199711111819.TAA00391@gvr.gvr.org> References: <199711111633.JAA16494@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199711111819.TAA00391@gvr.gvr.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Sometimes, after suspending my system, my modem card is not properly > > > reallocated. What happens is that the kernel prints: ... > > It may be related to 'interrupts' not being properly let go in the > > system. > > The sio driver *is* resident, due to hardware race bugs, but marked as > > unused. However, as you are already aware, it's possible that something > > is still using it. :( > > Not only possible, it *is* still being used, proved by the fact that > insertion of another modem card gives the 'no free configuration' > message. That may be due to interrupts being 'in use'. Hold on... Hmm, I don't see where the 'no free configuration' message is being printed out in the pccard code. > What is weird is that the following happens: > Have the Nokia modem card in slot 0 > suspend What messages are printed here? > resume What messages are printed here? > Let me check my logs.... > > Here it is: > Nov 2 15:21:50 mouse su: guido to root on /dev/ttyv0 > Nov 2 15:26:09 mouse /kernel: ep0: unload > Nov 2 15:26:09 mouse /kernel: Return IRQ=10 > Nov 2 15:26:09 mouse /kernel: stray irq 10 > Nov 2 15:26:09 mouse /kernel: Card disabled, slot 0 > Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA17454 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:54:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from gvr.gvr.org (root@gvr.gvr.org [194.151.74.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA17448 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:54:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from guido@gvr.org) Received: (from guido@localhost) by gvr.gvr.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id UAA01182; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 20:53:51 +0100 (MET) From: Guido van Rooij Message-Id: <199711111953.UAA01182@gvr.gvr.org> Subject: Re: sio: probe test 3 failed In-Reply-To: <199711111926.MAA17332@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Nov 11, 97 12:26:33 pm" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 20:53:50 +0100 (MET) Cc: nate@mt.sri.com, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams wrote: > > > > Not only possible, it *is* still being used, proved by the fact that > > insertion of another modem card gives the 'no free configuration' > > message. > > That may be due to interrupts being 'in use'. Hold on... Hmm, I don't > see where the 'no free configuration' message is being printed out in > the pccard code. Here's the complete logging: Nov 11 20:24:30 mouse /kernel: Initializing PC-card drivers: ed ep fe sio Nov 11 20:24:30 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 1 Nov 11 20:24:30 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 0 Nov 11 20:24:36 mouse /kernel: ep0: utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:60:97:8e:e3:ff Nov 11 20:24:46 mouse /kernel: sio1: type 16550A Nov 11 20:24:46 mouse pccardd[41]: pccardd started Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: ep0: unload Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: Return IRQ=10 Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: stray irq 10 Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: Card disabled, slot 0 Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: sio1: unload,gone Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: Return IRQ=11 Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: stray irq 11 Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: Card disabled, slot 1 Nov 11 20:40:09 mouse /kernel: resumed from suspended mode (slept 00:00:08) Nov 11 20:40:10 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 1 Nov 11 20:40:10 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 0 Nov 11 20:40:21 mouse /kernel: sio1: probe test 3 failed Nov 11 20:40:21 mouse pccardd[41]: driver allocation failed for Nokia Mobile Pho nes Nov 11 20:40:31 mouse /kernel: ep0: utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:60:97:8e:e3:ff Nov 11 20:41:46 mouse /kernel: Card removed, slot 1 Nov 11 20:41:46 mouse /kernel: Slot 1, unfielded interrupt (11) Nov 11 20:41:46 mouse /kernel: Slot 1, unfielded interrupt (11) Nov 11 20:42:02 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 1 Nov 11 20:42:08 mouse pccardd[41]: No free configuration for card Intelligent Nov 11 20:45:34 mouse /kernel: Card removed, slot 1 Nov 11 20:45:45 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 1 Nov 11 20:45:48 mouse /kernel: ep0: unload Nov 11 20:45:48 mouse /kernel: Return IRQ=10 Nov 11 20:45:48 mouse /kernel: stray irq 10 Nov 11 20:45:48 mouse /kernel: Card disabled, slot 0 Nov 11 20:45:48 mouse /kernel: Card disabled, slot 1 Nov 11 20:45:53 mouse /kernel: resumed from suspended mode (slept 00:00:07) Nov 11 20:45:54 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 1 Nov 11 20:45:54 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 0 Nov 11 20:46:01 mouse /kernel: sio1: probe test 3 failed Nov 11 20:46:01 mouse pccardd[41]: driver allocation failed for Nokia Mobile Pho nes Nov 11 20:46:36 mouse /kernel: Card removed, slot 0 Nov 11 20:46:38 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 0 Nov 11 20:46:49 mouse /kernel: ep0: utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:60:97:8e:e3:ff -Guido From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 12:29:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA19691 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:29:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA19677 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:28:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03221; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:28:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA17750; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:28:21 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:28:21 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711112028.NAA17750@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Guido van Rooij Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sio: probe test 3 failed In-Reply-To: <199711111953.UAA01182@gvr.gvr.org> References: <199711111926.MAA17332@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199711111953.UAA01182@gvr.gvr.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Here's the complete logging: > > Nov 11 20:24:30 mouse /kernel: Initializing PC-card drivers: ed ep fe sio > Nov 11 20:24:30 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 1 > Nov 11 20:24:30 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 0 > Nov 11 20:24:36 mouse /kernel: ep0: utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:60:97:8e:e3:ff > Nov 11 20:24:46 mouse /kernel: sio1: type 16550A > Nov 11 20:24:46 mouse pccardd[41]: pccardd started So far so good. > > Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: ep0: unload > Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: Return IRQ=10 > Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: stray irq 10 > Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: Card disabled, slot 0 Slot 0 is disabled correctly. > Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: sio1: unload,gone > Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: Return IRQ=11 > Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: stray irq 11 > Nov 11 20:40:03 mouse /kernel: Card disabled, slot 1 Slot 1 is disabled correctly. > > Nov 11 20:40:09 mouse /kernel: resumed from suspended mode (slept 00:00:08) > Nov 11 20:40:10 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 1 > Nov 11 20:40:10 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 0 Both slots are 'resumed' correctly. > Nov 11 20:40:21 mouse /kernel: sio1: probe test 3 failed > Nov 11 20:40:21 mouse pccardd[41]: driver allocation failed for Nokia Mobile Phones Still not sure why this happened, but let's go on. It's not obvious what 'resource' it can't find when trying to use the card, but I *suspect* it's the interrupt. > Nov 11 20:40:31 mouse /kernel: ep0: utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:60:97:8e:e3:ff Slot 0 worked fine (though we don't know what resources it's using.) > > Nov 11 20:41:46 mouse /kernel: Card removed, slot 1 > Nov 11 20:41:46 mouse /kernel: Slot 1, unfielded interrupt (11) > Nov 11 20:41:46 mouse /kernel: Slot 1, unfielded interrupt (11) > > Nov 11 20:42:02 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 1 > Nov 11 20:42:08 mouse pccardd[41]: No free configuration for card Intelligent Hmm, at this point it *appears* that the driver was allocated, but never de-allocated after failure. Let me look into that..... Looks good to me. > This needs to be done at boot time (or at least before the first suspend) for it to have any effect. > > Nov 11 20:45:34 mouse /kernel: Card removed, slot 1 > Nov 11 20:45:45 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 1 > Nov 11 20:45:48 mouse /kernel: ep0: unload > Nov 11 20:45:48 mouse /kernel: Return IRQ=10 > Nov 11 20:45:48 mouse /kernel: stray irq 10 > Nov 11 20:45:48 mouse /kernel: Card disabled, slot 0 > Nov 11 20:45:48 mouse /kernel: Card disabled, slot 1 Fine, no cards to disable at slot 0 since the 'inserted' message never got around to the pccardd daemon long enough for it to have allocated a driver for the slot. > > Nov 11 20:45:53 mouse /kernel: resumed from suspended mode (slept 00:00:07) > Nov 11 20:45:54 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 1 > Nov 11 20:45:54 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 0 > Nov 11 20:46:01 mouse /kernel: sio1: probe test 3 failed > Nov 11 20:46:01 mouse pccardd[41]: driver allocation failed for Nokia Mobile Pho > nes > I know why this happens. Basically, I need to *FORCE* the system to think the card was removed at suspend time, and *FORCE* it to think the card was inserted at resume time. Right now I 'fake' it. Basically, this is a 'known' bug that I haven't gotten time to fix. It shouldn't happen very often in any case. > Nov 11 20:46:36 mouse /kernel: Card removed, slot 0 > Nov 11 20:46:38 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 0 > > Nov 11 20:46:49 mouse /kernel: ep0: utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:60:97:8e:e3:ff Yep, that's not a good solution, but it no longer locks up your machine like suspend/resume used to do. :) :) :) [ Well, in your particular case we still have sio lockups, but that's another story. ] Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 12:31:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA19948 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:31:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.frihet.com (frihet.bayarea.net [205.219.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA19914; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:31:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@ns.frihet.com) Received: from ns.frihet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.frihet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA07279; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:30:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@ns.frihet.com) Message-Id: <199711112030.MAA07279@ns.frihet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 Reply-To: "David E. Tweten" To: Guido van Rooij cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-hackers) Subject: Re: multi sector io on IBM-DMCA-21440 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:30:28 -0800 From: "David E. Tweten" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk guido@gvr.org said: >IS anyone using multi-sector IO successfully on his laptop? I am, on an NEC 6030X (at home), and on an NEC 6050MX (at work). >When I would enable multi-sector io, the filesystem is severely >corrupted (without the driver giving any errors at all.) I configured >it with flas 0x80ff80ff. I've had no such problem. My equivalent boot messages are: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 1378MB (2822400 sectors), 2800 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S And my appropriate kernel config lines are: controller wdc0 at isa0 port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 flags 0x80ff disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 flags 0x80ff device wcd0 It seems the only difference in our setups is that I put the flags on the device declaration while you put them on the controller declaration (and, of course, our laptops are made by different manufacturors). I have no idea why mine works and yours doesn't, but at least this is more data for you. -- David E. Tweten | 2047-bit PGP fingerprint: | tweten@frihet.com 12141 Atrium Drive | E9 59 E7 5C 6B 88 B8 90 | tweten@and.com Saratoga, CA 95070-3162 | 65 30 2A A4 A0 BC 49 AE | (408) 446-4131 Those who make good products sell products; those who don't, sell solutions. From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 13:17:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA23503 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:17:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA23496 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:16:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA14354; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:16:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971111131657.37693@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:16:57 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: interesting pcmcia card behavior... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk well... a couple days ago I needed to go to school REALLY quickly, so I just pulled the ethernet card out while the machine was suspended... then today I noticed that I was getting these messages each time I resumed my machine: Card disabled, slot 0 Nov 11 10:00:46 note /kernel.syscons: resumed from suspended mode (slept 17:30:20) Card inserted, slot 0 Nov 11 10:00:52 note pccardd[37]: No card in database for ""("") and that was with no card in the machine... so I then tried to put the ethernet card back in, but no go... so then I suspended my machine, put the card in, then resumed the machine... I got a: ep0: eeprom failed to come ready. ep0: failed to come ready. Nov 11 12:58:51 note pccardd[37]: driver allocation failed for 3Com Corporation I also tried to insert my modem while it was in the above state (thinking a card was really in the slot), and I got the sio2: probe test 3 failed message.. and now the card doesn't work, even after I get the ethernet card to behave properly... Toshiba T1960CS, Intel 82365, old 486dx2/50, video is standard VGA, not local bus (isa)... 3c589b, Megahertz 14.4k (XJ144).. -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 13:45:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA25407 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:45:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA25402 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:45:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03732; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:45:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA18382; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:45:04 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:45:04 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711112145.OAA18382@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: John-Mark Gurney Cc: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: interesting pcmcia card behavior... In-Reply-To: <19971111131657.37693@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> References: <19971111131657.37693@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > well... a couple days ago I needed to go to school REALLY quickly, so > I just pulled the ethernet card out while the machine was suspended... > > then today I noticed that I was getting these messages each time I > resumed my machine: > Card disabled, slot 0 > Nov 11 10:00:46 note /kernel.syscons: resumed from suspended mode (slept 17:30:20) > Card inserted, slot 0 > Nov 11 10:00:52 note pccardd[37]: No card in database for ""("") This shouldn't be a problem, since I 'fake' an insertion message. No need to try and restore any cards or such in the machine. > and that was with no card in the machine... so I then tried to put > the ethernet card back in, but no go... What happenned there? Did you wait about 5-10 seconds for things to get done? Define 'no go' please. > so then I suspended my machine, > put the card in, then resumed the machine... I got a: > ep0: eeprom failed to come ready. > ep0: failed to come ready. > Nov 11 12:58:51 note pccardd[37]: driver allocation failed for 3Com Corporation This could be related to (what I consider to be) the interrupt problem that Guido is also seeing, or something that I have no idea on. It's hard to debug remotely, so I'm just guessing here. I need more information and someone willing to go in and find out what's going wrong. > I also tried to insert my modem while it was in the above state (thinking > a card was really in the slot), and I got the sio2: probe test 3 failed > message.. and now the card doesn't work, even after I get the ethernet > card to behave properly... > > Toshiba T1960CS, Intel 82365, old 486dx2/50, video is standard VGA, not > local bus (isa)... 3c589b, Megahertz 14.4k (XJ144).. *shot in the dark* Can you try (before doing a suspend) enabling the pcic_resume sysctl and see if that makes any difference? Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 14:03:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA26806 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:03:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA26799 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:03:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA14497; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:03:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971111140322.45272@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:03:22 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Nate Williams Cc: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: interesting pcmcia card behavior... References: <19971111131657.37693@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112145.OAA18382@rocky.mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199711112145.OAA18382@rocky.mt.sri.com>; from Nate Williams on Tue, Nov 11, 1997 at 02:45:04PM -0700 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams scribbled this message on Nov 11: > > well... a couple days ago I needed to go to school REALLY quickly, so > > I just pulled the ethernet card out while the machine was suspended... > > > > then today I noticed that I was getting these messages each time I > > resumed my machine: > > Card disabled, slot 0 > > Nov 11 10:00:46 note /kernel.syscons: resumed from suspended mode (slept 17:30:20) > > Card inserted, slot 0 > > Nov 11 10:00:52 note pccardd[37]: No card in database for ""("") > > This shouldn't be a problem, since I 'fake' an insertion message. No > need to try and restore any cards or such in the machine. > > > and that was with no card in the machine... so I then tried to put > > the ethernet card back in, but no go... > > What happenned there? Did you wait about 5-10 seconds for things to get > done? Define 'no go' please. I get a: Card inserted, slot 0 then nothing else... if I remove the card, then reinsert it... then it comes up fine.. > > so then I suspended my machine, > > put the card in, then resumed the machine... I got a: > > ep0: eeprom failed to come ready. > > ep0: failed to come ready. > > Nov 11 12:58:51 note pccardd[37]: driver allocation failed for 3Com Corporation > > This could be related to (what I consider to be) the interrupt problem > that Guido is also seeing, or something that I have no idea on. It's > hard to debug remotely, so I'm just guessing here. I need more > information and someone willing to go in and find out what's going > wrong. yeh.. I was thinking that might be the case... basicly the removal of the card would release the interrupt, which would enable the second time I insert the card to work... I might take a look at what's up, but the major problem is that I don't have enough hard disk space on my notebook (340megs isn't much), and working/looking at code over a 500ms latency connection isn't fun... > > I also tried to insert my modem while it was in the above state (thinking > > a card was really in the slot), and I got the sio2: probe test 3 failed > > message.. and now the card doesn't work, even after I get the ethernet > > card to behave properly... > > > > Toshiba T1960CS, Intel 82365, old 486dx2/50, video is standard VGA, not > > local bus (isa)... 3c589b, Megahertz 14.4k (XJ144).. > > *shot in the dark* > > Can you try (before doing a suspend) enabling the pcic_resume sysctl and > see if that makes any difference? that makes it work the first time I insert the card.. -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 14:27:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA28357 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:27:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA28345 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:27:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03991; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:26:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA18604; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:26:57 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:26:57 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711112226.PAA18604@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: John-Mark Gurney Cc: Nate Williams , FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: interesting pcmcia card behavior... In-Reply-To: <19971111140322.45272@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> References: <19971111131657.37693@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112145.OAA18382@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111140322.45272@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > and that was with no card in the machine... so I then tried to put > > > the ethernet card back in, but no go... > > > > What happenned there? Did you wait about 5-10 seconds for things to get > > done? Define 'no go' please. > > I get a: > Card inserted, slot 0 > > then nothing else... if I remove the card, then reinsert it... then > it comes up fine.. Hmm, it *should* work fine at this point, but I can see where it might not. (Again, it's based on my 'fake' insertion message which would get pccardd confused.) > > > so then I suspended my machine, > > > put the card in, then resumed the machine... I got a: > > > ep0: eeprom failed to come ready. > > > ep0: failed to come ready. > > > Nov 11 12:58:51 note pccardd[37]: driver allocation failed for 3Com Corporation > > > > This could be related to (what I consider to be) the interrupt problem > > that Guido is also seeing, or something that I have no idea on. It's > > hard to debug remotely, so I'm just guessing here. I need more > > information and someone willing to go in and find out what's going > > wrong. > > yeh.. I was thinking that might be the case... basicly the removal of > the card would release the interrupt, which would enable the second time > I insert the card to work... > > I might take a look at what's up, but the major problem is that I don't > have enough hard disk space on my notebook (340megs isn't much), and > working/looking at code over a 500ms latency connection isn't fun... You only need the kernel/include sources online, which are about 20-30MB, plus another 10MB for the 'built' kernel. > > > I also tried to insert my modem while it was in the above state (thinking > > > a card was really in the slot), and I got the sio2: probe test 3 failed > > > message.. and now the card doesn't work, even after I get the ethernet > > > card to behave properly... > > > > > > Toshiba T1960CS, Intel 82365, old 486dx2/50, video is standard VGA, not > > > local bus (isa)... 3c589b, Megahertz 14.4k (XJ144).. > > > > *shot in the dark* > > > > Can you try (before doing a suspend) enabling the pcic_resume sysctl and > > see if that makes any difference? > > that makes it work the first time I insert the card.. But not after the suspend? Didn't it always work the first time you inserted the card, since the resume sysctl is never even in the picture until suspend/resume. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 14:41:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA29459 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:41:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA29453 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:41:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA14650; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:41:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971111144122.11882@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:41:22 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Nate Williams Cc: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: interesting pcmcia card behavior... References: <19971111131657.37693@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112145.OAA18382@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111140322.45272@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112226.PAA18604@rocky.mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199711112226.PAA18604@rocky.mt.sri.com>; from Nate Williams on Tue, Nov 11, 1997 at 03:26:57PM -0700 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams scribbled this message on Nov 11: > > > > and that was with no card in the machine... so I then tried to put > > > > the ethernet card back in, but no go... > > > > > > What happenned there? Did you wait about 5-10 seconds for things to get > > > done? Define 'no go' please. > > > > I get a: > > Card inserted, slot 0 > > > > then nothing else... if I remove the card, then reinsert it... then > > it comes up fine.. > > Hmm, it *should* work fine at this point, but I can see where it might > not. (Again, it's based on my 'fake' insertion message which would get > pccardd confused.) is there any way to make sure that there IS a card in before sending the message? > > I might take a look at what's up, but the major problem is that I don't > > have enough hard disk space on my notebook (340megs isn't much), and > > working/looking at code over a 500ms latency connection isn't fun... > > You only need the kernel/include sources online, which are about > 20-30MB, plus another 10MB for the 'built' kernel. yeh.. but right now I only have 2.2megs free on the FreeBSD side, and 7megs on the dos side (need winblows for business :( )... > > > > I also tried to insert my modem while it was in the above state (thinking > > > > a card was really in the slot), and I got the sio2: probe test 3 failed > > > > message.. and now the card doesn't work, even after I get the ethernet > > > > card to behave properly... > > > > > > > > Toshiba T1960CS, Intel 82365, old 486dx2/50, video is standard VGA, not > > > > local bus (isa)... 3c589b, Megahertz 14.4k (XJ144).. > > > > > > *shot in the dark* > > > > > > Can you try (before doing a suspend) enabling the pcic_resume sysctl and > > > see if that makes any difference? > > > > that makes it work the first time I insert the card.. > > But not after the suspend? Didn't it always work the first time you sorry, I should of said, makes it work the first time I insert the card after a suspend in which I removed the card durning the suspend... > inserted the card, since the resume sysctl is never even in the picture > until suspend/resume. problem: a) insert card, it all works b) suspend system c) remove card while system is suspended d) resume system e) insert card, I get Card inserted message, but nothing else. f) remove card, and insert again, and it works... but I think f might be because of the pcic_resume... even though a-f happens with it equal 0, I did set it equal to 1 once, and during that time e would work fine... I'll have to see what I can do when I'm at home... thanks for the help though... -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 14:45:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA29843 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:45:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA29833 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:45:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04122; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:45:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA18757; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:45:24 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:45:24 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711112245.PAA18757@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: John-Mark Gurney Cc: Nate Williams , FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: interesting pcmcia card behavior... In-Reply-To: <19971111144122.11882@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> References: <19971111131657.37693@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112145.OAA18382@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111140322.45272@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112226.PAA18604@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111144122.11882@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Nate Williams scribbled this message on Nov 11: > > > > > and that was with no card in the machine... so I then tried to put > > > > > the ethernet card back in, but no go... > > > > > > > > What happenned there? Did you wait about 5-10 seconds for things to get > > > > done? Define 'no go' please. > > > > > > I get a: > > > Card inserted, slot 0 > > > > > > then nothing else... if I remove the card, then reinsert it... then > > > it comes up fine.. > > > > Hmm, it *should* work fine at this point, but I can see where it might > > not. (Again, it's based on my 'fake' insertion message which would get > > pccardd confused.) > > is there any way to make sure that there IS a card in before sending the > message? Yes, but I need time to implement it. :( > > > I might take a look at what's up, but the major problem is that I don't > > > have enough hard disk space on my notebook (340megs isn't much), and > > > working/looking at code over a 500ms latency connection isn't fun... > > > > You only need the kernel/include sources online, which are about > > 20-30MB, plus another 10MB for the 'built' kernel. > > yeh.. but right now I only have 2.2megs free on the FreeBSD side, and > 7megs on the dos side (need winblows for business :( )... Well, it's time to clean house. :) :) :) >>>> *shot in the dark* >>>> Can you try (before doing a suspend) enabling the pcic_resume >>>> sysctl and see if that makes any difference? > > > that makes it work the first time I insert the card.. > > > > But not after the suspend? Didn't it always work the first time you > > sorry, I should of said, makes it work the first time I insert the card > after a suspend in which I removed the card durning the suspend... Is that any different if you don't enable the sysctl? Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 14:58:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA01022 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:58:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA01001 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:58:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA14703; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:58:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971111145830.52911@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:58:30 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Nate Williams Cc: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: interesting pcmcia card behavior... References: <19971111131657.37693@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112145.OAA18382@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111140322.45272@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112226.PAA18604@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111144122.11882@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112245.PAA18757@rocky.mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199711112245.PAA18757@rocky.mt.sri.com>; from Nate Williams on Tue, Nov 11, 1997 at 03:45:24PM -0700 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams scribbled this message on Nov 11: > > is there any way to make sure that there IS a card in before sending the > > message? > > Yes, but I need time to implement it. :( ahh... ok... well, better than not being able too.. :) > > > > I might take a look at what's up, but the major problem is that I don't > > > > have enough hard disk space on my notebook (340megs isn't much), and > > > > working/looking at code over a 500ms latency connection isn't fun... > > > > > > You only need the kernel/include sources online, which are about > > > 20-30MB, plus another 10MB for the 'built' kernel. > > > > yeh.. but right now I only have 2.2megs free on the FreeBSD side, and > > 7megs on the dos side (need winblows for business :( )... > > Well, it's time to clean house. :) :) :) yeh.. I know, and the fortune databases are the biggest hogs... guess I need to look at improving this so that we don't have such a bloated system... :) > >>>> *shot in the dark* > >>>> Can you try (before doing a suspend) enabling the pcic_resume > >>>> sysctl and see if that makes any difference? > > > > > that makes it work the first time I insert the card.. > > > > > > But not after the suspend? Didn't it always work the first time you > > > > sorry, I should of said, makes it work the first time I insert the card > > after a suspend in which I removed the card durning the suspend... > > Is that any different if you don't enable the sysctl? if I enable the sysctl, it works fine the first time that I insert the card after removing it durning suspend... if I disable the sysctl, it will come up if I instert it a second time after removing the card during a suspend... -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 15:05:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA01568 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:05:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA01548 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:05:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04269; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:04:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA18927; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:04:49 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:04:49 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711112304.QAA18927@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: John-Mark Gurney Cc: Nate Williams , FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: interesting pcmcia card behavior... In-Reply-To: <19971111145830.52911@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> References: <19971111131657.37693@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112145.OAA18382@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111140322.45272@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112226.PAA18604@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111144122.11882@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112245.PAA18757@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111145830.52911@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Is that any different if you don't enable the sysctl? > > if I enable the sysctl, it works fine the first time that I insert the > card after removing it durning suspend... > if I disable the sysctl, it will come up if I instert it a second time > after removing the card during a suspend... Ahh, OK. I'm suprised that it makes any difference since by the time the machine is 'up' the sysctl shouldn't do a whole lot. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 15:08:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA01763 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:08:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA01735 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:07:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA14791; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:07:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971111150752.17683@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:07:52 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Nate Williams Cc: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: interesting pcmcia card behavior... References: <19971111131657.37693@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112145.OAA18382@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111140322.45272@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112226.PAA18604@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111144122.11882@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112245.PAA18757@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111145830.52911@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112304.QAA18927@rocky.mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199711112304.QAA18927@rocky.mt.sri.com>; from Nate Williams on Tue, Nov 11, 1997 at 04:04:49PM -0700 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams scribbled this message on Nov 11: > > > Is that any different if you don't enable the sysctl? > > > > if I enable the sysctl, it works fine the first time that I insert the > > card after removing it durning suspend... > > > > if I disable the sysctl, it will come up if I instert it a second time > > after removing the card during a suspend... > > Ahh, OK. I'm suprised that it makes any difference since by the time > the machine is 'up' the sysctl shouldn't do a whole lot. oh... the enable/disable state of the sysctl is then state when the system comes out of suspend mode w/o the card... -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 11 15:22:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA02781 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:22:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA02774 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:22:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04403; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:21:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA19163; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:21:53 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:21:53 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711112321.QAA19163@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: John-Mark Gurney Cc: Nate Williams , FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: interesting pcmcia card behavior... In-Reply-To: <19971111150752.17683@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> References: <19971111131657.37693@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112145.OAA18382@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111140322.45272@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112226.PAA18604@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111144122.11882@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112245.PAA18757@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111145830.52911@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199711112304.QAA18927@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19971111150752.17683@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > if I enable the sysctl, it works fine the first time that I insert the > > > card after removing it durning suspend... > > > > > > > if I disable the sysctl, it will come up if I instert it a second time > > > after removing the card during a suspend... > > > > Ahh, OK. I'm suprised that it makes any difference since by the time > > the machine is 'up' the sysctl shouldn't do a whole lot. > > oh... the enable/disable state of the sysctl is then state when the > system comes out of suspend mode w/o the card... Yeah, that's true. I'm a little out of it today, due to many phone calls and lots of questions being asked in email and in person, so I'll have to sit back and think about things when my brain gets some spare cycles. Sorry for the confusion. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 12 01:56:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA19252 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 01:56:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from gvr.gvr.org (root@gvr.gvr.org [194.151.74.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA19246 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 01:56:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from guido@gvr.org) Received: (from guido@localhost) by gvr.gvr.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id KAA03052; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:26:16 +0100 (MET) From: Guido van Rooij Message-Id: <199711120926.KAA03052@gvr.gvr.org> Subject: Re: sio: probe test 3 failed In-Reply-To: <199711112028.NAA17750@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Nov 11, 97 01:28:21 pm" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:26:15 +0100 (MET) Cc: nate@mt.sri.com, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams wrote: > Both slots are 'resumed' correctly. > > > Nov 11 20:40:21 mouse /kernel: sio1: probe test 3 failed > > Nov 11 20:40:21 mouse pccardd[41]: driver allocation failed for Nokia Mobile Phones > > Still not sure why this happened, but let's go on. It's not obvious > what 'resource' it can't find when trying to use the card, but I > *suspect* it's the interrupt. test 3 tests to see if an interrupt is present (it should be). > > Nov 11 20:42:02 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 1 > > Nov 11 20:42:08 mouse pccardd[41]: No free configuration for card Intelligent > > Hmm, at this point it *appears* that the driver was allocated, but never > de-allocated after failure. Let me look into that..... > > Looks good to me. > > > > > This needs to be done at boot time (or at least before the first > suspend) for it to have any effect. > Are you sure? Then why is it settable? Furthermore: I got the impresson that setting this to 1 caused the network card to be `ignored' > > > > Nov 11 20:45:34 mouse /kernel: Card removed, slot 1 > > Nov 11 20:45:45 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 1 > > Nov 11 20:45:48 mouse /kernel: ep0: unload > > Nov 11 20:45:48 mouse /kernel: Return IRQ=10 > > Nov 11 20:45:48 mouse /kernel: stray irq 10 > > Nov 11 20:45:48 mouse /kernel: Card disabled, slot 0 > > Nov 11 20:45:48 mouse /kernel: Card disabled, slot 1 > > Fine, no cards to disable at slot 0 since the 'inserted' message never > got around to the pccardd daemon long enough for it to have allocated a > driver for the slot. > > > > > Nov 11 20:45:53 mouse /kernel: resumed from suspended mode (slept 00:00:07) > > Nov 11 20:45:54 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 1 > > Nov 11 20:45:54 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 0 > > Nov 11 20:46:01 mouse /kernel: sio1: probe test 3 failed > > Nov 11 20:46:01 mouse pccardd[41]: driver allocation failed for Nokia Mobile Pho > > nes > > > > I know why this happens. Basically, I need to *FORCE* the system to > think the card was removed at suspend time, and *FORCE* it to think the > card was inserted at resume time. Right now I 'fake' it. Basically, > this is a 'known' bug that I haven't gotten time to fix. It shouldn't > happen very often in any case. > > > Nov 11 20:46:36 mouse /kernel: Card removed, slot 0 > > Nov 11 20:46:38 mouse /kernel: Card inserted, slot 0 > > > > Nov 11 20:46:49 mouse /kernel: ep0: utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:60:97:8e:e3:ff > > Yep, that's not a good solution, but it no longer locks up your machine > like suspend/resume used to do. :) :) :) > > [ > Well, in your particular case we still have sio lockups, but that's > another story. > ] Only if the pcic's irq is higher then the drivers it may allocate. -Guido From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 12 07:04:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA08901 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:04:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA08835 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:04:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10136; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:03:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA03599; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:03:55 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:03:55 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711121503.IAA03599@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Guido van Rooij Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sio: probe test 3 failed In-Reply-To: <199711120926.KAA03052@gvr.gvr.org> References: <199711112028.NAA17750@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199711120926.KAA03052@gvr.gvr.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > > > This needs to be done at boot time (or at least before the first > > suspend) for it to have any effect. > > > > Are you sure? Then why is it settable? I'm positive, and it's easily settable at run-time before suspending the first time. > Furthermore: I got the impresson that setting this to 1 caused the > network card to be `ignored'. I don't know why, since all it does is re-program the PCIC interrupt when the system is resume, so it's not even called until resume. > > [ > > Well, in your particular case we still have sio lockups, but that's > > another story. > > ] > > Only if the pcic's irq is higher then the drivers it may allocate. Right, I just sent you a patch to 'fix' that bug. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 12 15:19:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA19282 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:19:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA19276 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:19:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13672; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:19:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA06523; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:19:08 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:19:08 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711122319.QAA06523@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Daniel Leeds Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adaptec pcmcia scsi In-Reply-To: <199711122112.NAA18379@inertia.dfacades.com> References: <199711122112.NAA18379@inertia.dfacades.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ Moved to -mobile ] > I have an adaptec slim-scsi 1460 pcmcia card i am desperately trying to > get to be recognized and used by my laptop running freebsd 2.2.5 to > no avail. It's not supported in 2.2.5. The support was added about 4-5 days after the release (it wouldn't have made it into the release in any case). > upon boot, its seen by the ze driver (which runs my ibm pcmcia ethernet) > and reports as an adaptec scsi controller. Not quite. The driver prints out the CIS strings of the cards, but it only work correctly if the string is what it expects, aka the IBM card. Also note that the zp/ze drivers are 'dedicated' drivers, which mean they *ONLY* work on laptops, while the new drivers such as the Adaptec work on both desktop/laptop machines. But, there's no boot floppy support (yet) for the new drivers, but once it's installed you can get things working pretty easily. > but i cannot get it to be recognized by pccard Update to 2.2.5-STABLE (and use the PCCARD config file). The necessary changes were made after the release, including the changes to the /etc/pccard.conf. (Although, it might need a bit of tweaking to work, since the setup has only been tested on Sony CDR-650 CD-ROMS drivers, which use a variant of the Adaptec card.) Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 12 16:05:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA22770 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:05:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from wired.com (get.wired.com [204.62.131.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA22761 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:05:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robr@wired.com) Received: from get.wired.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wired.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24015; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:05:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711130005.QAA24015@wired.com> To: Nate Williams cc: Daniel Leeds , mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adaptec pcmcia scsi In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:19:08 MST." <199711122319.QAA06523@rocky.mt.sri.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:05:18 -0800 From: William Robertson Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Update to 2.2.5-STABLE (and use the PCCARD config file). The necessary changes were made after the release, including the changes to the /etc/pccard.conf. (Although, it might need a bit of tweaking to work, since the setup has only been tested on Sony CDR-650 CD-ROMS drivers, which use a variant of the Adaptec card.) just another datapoint. i've used the 1460 just fine with 2.2.5-STABLE and an SyQuest 1.5G removable. rob From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 12 17:01:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA26883 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:01:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA26855 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:01:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14365; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:01:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA07098; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:01:04 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:01:04 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711130101.SAA07098@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: William Robertson Cc: Nate Williams , Daniel Leeds , mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adaptec pcmcia scsi In-Reply-To: <199711130005.QAA24015@wired.com> References: <199711122319.QAA06523@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199711130005.QAA24015@wired.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Update to 2.2.5-STABLE (and use the PCCARD config file). The necessary > changes were made after the release, including the changes to the > /etc/pccard.conf. (Although, it might need a bit of tweaking to work, > since the setup has only been tested on Sony CDR-650 CD-ROMS drivers, > which use a variant of the Adaptec card.) > > just another datapoint. > > i've used the 1460 just fine with 2.2.5-STABLE and an SyQuest 1.5G > removable. *GREAT* Thanks for the datapoint! Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 12 17:56:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA02296 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:56:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from inertia.dfacades.com (inertia.dfacades.com [207.155.93.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA02288 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:56:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dleeds@dfacades.com) Received: (from dleeds@localhost) by inertia.dfacades.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA20453 for mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:59:48 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Leeds Message-Id: <199711130159.RAA20453@inertia.dfacades.com> Subject: adaptec 1460 pcmcia scsi To: mobile@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:59:47 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL35 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk so now ive been told that only 2.2.5-STABLE can use this scsi pcmcia card. so im gonna try that. but curious, did the 1460 adaptec scsi ever work under 2.2.2 release with or without PAO?? i thought adaptec was a sure thing....the headaches today sure dont make a believer out of me. From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 12 19:26:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA07972 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:26:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from sag.space.lockheed.com (sag.space.lockheed.com [192.68.162.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA07965 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:26:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from handy@sag.space.lockheed.com) Received: from localhost by sag.space.lockheed.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Nov95-0423PM) id AA21091; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:26:21 -0800 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:26:21 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian N. Handy" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Good laptop < $2KUS Message-Id: X-Files: The truth is out there Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hey folks, I've got a request for a couple of good laptops in the <$2K range. Anybody have any favorites in that range? Thanks, Brian From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 12 20:17:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA11436 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 20:17:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from tarkin.qualcomm.com (tarkin.qualcomm.com [129.46.111.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA11426 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 20:17:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rmallory@qualcomm.com) Received: (from rmallory@localhost) by tarkin.qualcomm.com (8.8.5/1.4/8.7.2/1.13) id UAA11618; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 20:13:00 -0800 (PST) From: Rob Mallory Message-Id: <199711130413.UAA11618@tarkin.qualcomm.com> Subject: Re: adaptec pcmcia scsi In-Reply-To: <199711130101.SAA07098@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Nov 12, 97 06:01:04 pm" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 20:13:00 -0800 (PST) Cc: robr@wired.com, nate@mt.sri.com, dleeds@dfacades.com, mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > just another datapoint. > > > > i've used the 1460 just fine with 2.2.5-STABLE and an SyQuest 1.5G > > removable. > > *GREAT* Thanks for the datapoint! > Nate > ...and I've also had success with a real adaptec slimscsi and a couple barracudas. (they get about 1.5MB/sec iozone performance) This is under -current on a toshiba cds420. suspend/resume works fine in this case also. -Rob From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 12 21:00:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA13941 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:00:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA13934 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:00:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15787; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:00:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA07708; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:00:43 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:00:43 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711130500.WAA07708@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Rob Mallory Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adaptec pcmcia scsi In-Reply-To: <199711130413.UAA11618@tarkin.qualcomm.com> References: <199711130101.SAA07098@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199711130413.UAA11618@tarkin.qualcomm.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Rob Mallory writes: > > > i've used the 1460 just fine with 2.2.5-STABLE and an SyQuest 1.5G > > > removable. > > ...and I've also had success with a real adaptec slimscsi and a couple > barracudas. (they get about 1.5MB/sec iozone performance) > This is under -current on a toshiba cds420. > suspend/resume works fine in this case also. Do either of these require any modification to /etc/pccard.conf? If not, that's even better. :) Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 12 21:05:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA14213 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:05:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA14208 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:05:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15821; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:05:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA07746; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:05:12 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:05:12 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711130505.WAA07746@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Daniel Leeds Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adaptec 1460 pcmcia scsi In-Reply-To: <199711130159.RAA20453@inertia.dfacades.com> References: <199711130159.RAA20453@inertia.dfacades.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > but curious, did the 1460 adaptec scsi ever work under 2.2.2 release > with or without PAO?? It never worked under stock 2.2.2 release, since the patches were added after 2.2.5 was released both 3.0-current and 2.2.5-stable at almost the same time. > i thought adaptec was a sure thing....the headaches today sure dont > make a believer out of me. It's a function of the laptop code which wasn't being supported over the summer because the fishing up here was good. :) Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 12 21:08:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA14321 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:08:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA14309 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:08:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15845; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:08:17 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA07774; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:08:15 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:08:15 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711130508.WAA07774@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Brian N. Handy" Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Good laptop < $2KUS In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've got a request for a couple of good laptops in the <$2K range. > Anybody have any favorites in that range? You can get dual-scan (not active matrix) 560's for about 1200. ;) Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 04:50:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA11807 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 04:50:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from hda.hda.com (hda-bicnet.bicnet.net [208.220.66.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA11787 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 04:50:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dufault@hda.hda.com) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04476; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:42:30 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199711130042.TAA04476@hda.hda.com> Subject: Re: Good laptop < $2KUS In-Reply-To: <199711130508.WAA07774@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Nov 12, 97 10:08:15 pm" To: handy@sag.space.lockheed.com Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:42:29 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I've got a request for a couple of good laptops in the <$2K range. > > Anybody have any favorites in that range? > > You can get dual-scan (not active matrix) 560's for about 1200. ;) USA Flex has factory reconditioned HP 5500CT with 12.1" active matrix, 133 MHz, 16 MB RAM, and 1.3GB drive for $1299. Don't know anything about the laptop but the specs look good and HP is a good company (1-800-888-2704 no URL or non-800 number on flyer). That's where I got the active matrix 365X for $1200 that unfortunately is no longer available. Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime development, Machine control, HD Associates, Inc. Safety critical systems, Agency approval From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 06:43:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA17395 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 06:43:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA17389; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 06:43:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199711131443.GAA17389@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Good laptop < $2KUS To: handy@sag.space.lockheed.com (Brian N. Handy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 06:43:20 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Brian N. Handy" at Nov 12, 97 07:26:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brian N. Handy wrote: > > Hey folks, > > I've got a request for a couple of good laptops in the <$2K range. > Anybody have any favorites in that range? ibm thinkpad 560 jmb From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 07:09:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA19300 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:09:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA19288; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:08:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA02537; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:07:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: handy@sag.space.lockheed.com (Brian N. Handy), freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Good laptop < $2KUS In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Nov 1997 06:43:20 PST." <199711131443.GAA17389@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:07:34 +0100 Message-ID: <2535.879433654@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199711131443.GAA17389@hub.freebsd.org>, "Jonathan M. Bresler" write s: >Brian N. Handy wrote: >> >> Hey folks, >> >> I've got a request for a couple of good laptops in the <$2K range. >> Anybody have any favorites in that range? > > ibm thinkpad 560 >jmb hp800 phk or more generally foreach i $person { if {[price $laptop($person)] <= [USD 2500]} { puts $laptop($person) } } :-) What do you mean by "good laptops" ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 08:09:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA23268 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:09:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from iglou1 (exim@iglou1.iglou.com [192.107.41.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA23254; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:09:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patrick@cre8tivegroup.com) Received: from gateway.cre8tivegroup.com [204.255.227.111] by iglou1 with smtp (8.7.3/8.6.12) id 0xW1pN-0000iK-00; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:09:09 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <346B1B10.174ECCC1@metrocon.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:08:37 -0500 (EST) Organization: The Creative Group From: Patrick Gardella To: Sergey Pak , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: PCMCIA support Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm forwarding this to -mobile. They will be better able to help. On 13-Nov-97 Sergey Pak wrote: >Help! >I can't make my pcmcia modem work. Meanwhile my pcmcia network adapter >works fine. >I bump to "no PC-CARD slots" error message when I start pccardd daemon. >I found alternative pccard kernel support. > >controller crd0 >device pcic0 at crd? >device pcic1 at crd? > >The problem is I can't compile the modified kernel running into error: >"Dedicated PCMCIA driver and Generic PCMCIA support can't be mixed" > >Questions: >Why generic pcmcia support can't recognize pccard slots? >How can turn off generic pcmcia support compiling new kernel? From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 08:55:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA26163 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:55:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from sag.space.lockheed.com (sag.space.lockheed.com [192.68.162.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA26156 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:55:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from handy@sag.space.lockheed.com) Received: from localhost by sag.space.lockheed.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Nov95-0423PM) id AA17009; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:53:48 -0800 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:53:48 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian N. Handy" To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Good laptop < $2KUS In-Reply-To: <2535.879433654@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-Id: X-Files: The truth is out there Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Poul-Henning pondered, in response to my RFL: >What do you mean by "good laptops" ? Exactly that -- something that will do everything, be completely durable and kidproof for under $2K! :-) My experience is also with the TP560, but I didn't realize I could get those for $1500 now. (They used to be the expensive ones...) I think information that's just as useful is when people tell me *NOT* to get the MumBLE-300SE because the keyboard will quit working in three weeks, or the disk drive starts making funny noises, or the manufacturer doesn't cooperate when something goes wrong or the touchpad doesn't work when it has french fry grease on it or whatever. So...take that for what it says, I suspect these poor laptops I'm getting won't even be graced with FreeBSD. :-/ The overwhelming vote seems to be for the TP560, with a small but vocal minority voting for HP products. Oh and a few flyers with other brands. Thanks for the suggestions! Brian From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 09:38:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00331 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:38:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00315 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:38:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19972; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:37:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA09301; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:37:43 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:37:43 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711131737.KAA09301@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Patrick Gardella Cc: Sergey Pak , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: PCMCIA support In-Reply-To: References: <346B1B10.174ECCC1@metrocon.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ limited to mobile ] > >I can't make my pcmcia modem work. Meanwhile my pcmcia network adapter > >works fine. I'll bet your ethernet card is a 3Com or an IBM, right? You're using the dedicated cards. > >I bump to "no PC-CARD slots" error message when I start pccardd daemon. > >I found alternative pccard kernel support. The alternative support means that you can't mix the 'dedicated' support and alternative support. So, you can't use the zp/ze drivers and the alternative of 'generic' PCCARD support. > >controller crd0 > >device pcic0 at crd? > >device pcic1 at crd? > > > >The problem is I can't compile the modified kernel running into error: > >"Dedicated PCMCIA driver and Generic PCMCIA support can't be mixed" Then remove either the zp driver and replace it with the ep driver, or remove the ze driver and replace it with the ed driver. > >Questions: > >Why generic pcmcia support can't recognize pccard slots? Because you haven't created the devices in /dev. # cd /dev # MAKEDEV card0 # MAKEDEV card1 > >How can turn off generic pcmcia support compiling new kernel? You *want* generic support, so remove the ze/zp drivers. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 11:23:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA10120 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:23:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from gvr.gvr.org (root@gvr.gvr.org [194.151.74.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA10074 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:23:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from guido@gvr.org) Received: (from guido@localhost) by gvr.gvr.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id UAA08625; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:21:31 +0100 (MET) From: Guido van Rooij Message-Id: <199711131921.UAA08625@gvr.gvr.org> Subject: Re: PCMCIA support In-Reply-To: <199711131737.KAA09301@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Nov 13, 97 10:37:43 am" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:21:31 +0100 (MET) Cc: patrick@cre8tivegroup.com, pachera@metrocon.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Because you haven't created the devices in /dev. > > # cd /dev > # MAKEDEV card0 > # MAKEDEV card1 > *evil*: never have "." in your path when being root!! -Guido From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 11:25:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA10331 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:25:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (psuvm.psu.edu [128.118.56.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA10326 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:25:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from <@PSUVM.PSU.EDU:linus@LINUX.ORG>) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:25:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711131925.LAA10326@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from LINUX.ORG by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 13 Nov 97 14:21:02 EST To: mobile@freebsd.org From: linus@LINUX.ORG Subject: going mobile! Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 12:04:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA14794 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:04:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA14784 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:04:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA18624; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:59:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:59:25 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: "Brian N. Handy" cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Good laptop < $2KUS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk One thing to keep in mind with the cheap 560 is that it only has a 16K cache, which slows things down a bit. A nice 380 dual-scan can be had for about $1500, and it has a 256K cache and a Pentium 150. The only drawback is the NeoMagic video, but if you run XIG's X server, that shouldn't be a problem... Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com ---- "I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man Just a mortal with potential of a superman I'm living on" -DB On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Brian N. Handy wrote: > Poul-Henning pondered, in response to my RFL: > > >What do you mean by "good laptops" ? > > Exactly that -- something that will do everything, be completely durable > and kidproof for under $2K! :-) My experience is also with the TP560, but > I didn't realize I could get those for $1500 now. (They used to be the > expensive ones...) I think information that's just as useful is when > people tell me *NOT* to get the MumBLE-300SE because the keyboard will > quit working in three weeks, or the disk drive starts making funny noises, > or the manufacturer doesn't cooperate when something goes wrong or > the touchpad doesn't work when it has french fry grease on it or whatever. > > So...take that for what it says, I suspect these poor laptops I'm getting > won't even be graced with FreeBSD. :-/ The overwhelming vote seems to be > for the TP560, with a small but vocal minority voting for HP products. Oh > and a few flyers with other brands. > > Thanks for the suggestions! > > > Brian > From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 12:15:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA15706 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:15:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA15696 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:15:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20983; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:14:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA09878; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:14:09 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:14:09 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711132014.NAA09878@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Guido van Rooij Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), patrick@cre8tivegroup.com, pachera@metrocon.com, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCMCIA support In-Reply-To: <199711131921.UAA08625@gvr.gvr.org> References: <199711131737.KAA09301@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199711131921.UAA08625@gvr.gvr.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Because you haven't created the devices in /dev. > > > > # cd /dev > > # MAKEDEV card0 > > # MAKEDEV card1 > > > > *evil*: never have "." in your path when being root!! True, sorry about that. (Besides, all of the shells whine at you if this happens. :) Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 12:43:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA18761 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:43:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from tarkin.qualcomm.com (tarkin.qualcomm.com [129.46.111.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA18751 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:43:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rmallory@qualcomm.com) Received: (from rmallory@localhost) by tarkin.qualcomm.com (8.8.5/1.4/8.7.2/1.13) id MAA17763; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:40:07 -0800 (PST) From: Rob Mallory Message-Id: <199711132040.MAA17763@tarkin.qualcomm.com> Subject: Re: adaptec pcmcia scsi In-Reply-To: <199711130500.WAA07708@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Nov 12, 97 10:00:43 pm" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:40:07 -0800 (PST) Cc: mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Rob Mallory writes: > > > > i've used the 1460 just fine with 2.2.5-STABLE and an SyQuest 1.5G > > > > removable. > > > > ...and I've also had success with a real adaptec slimscsi and a couple > > barracudas. (they get about 1.5MB/sec iozone performance) > > This is under -current on a toshiba cds420. > > suspend/resume works fine in this case also. > > Do either of these require any modification to /etc/pccard.conf? If > not, that's even better. :) > I just tried it with yesterday's pccard.conf, and my etherlink3 is not picked up properly... But the aic is attached just fine. I have the internal mss sound disabled, along with the ir port. This free'd up a few interrupts. The aic card seems to like irq 10 the best. The 3c589 seems to like irq 10 or 11 the best. Here is my cut down pccard.conf which seems to work. -Rob # Sample PCCARD configuration file # # Removing all IRQ conflicts from this file can't be done because of some # IRQ-selfish PC-cards. So if you want to use some of these cards in # your machine, you will be forced to modify their IRQ parameters from # the following list. # # IRQ == 0 means "allocate free IRQ from IRQ pool" # IRQ == 16 means "do not use IRQ (e.g. PIO mode)" # # $Id: pccard.conf.sample,v 1.7 1997/10/21 18:07:36 nate Exp $ # Generally available IO ports io 0x240-0x360 # Generally available IRQs (Built-in sound-card owners remove 5) irq 5 13 15 10 # Available memory slots memory 0xd4000 96k # Adaptec SlimSCSI (also included with Sony CD-ROM players) card "Adaptec, Inc." "APA-1460 SCSI Host Adapter" config 0x9 "aic0" 10 insert echo Adaptec Slim SCSI inserted remove echo Adaptec Slim SCSI removed # 3Com Etherlink III 3C589B, 3C589C # This guy is a bugger. He insists on being at irq11. card "3Com Corporation" "3C589" config 0x1 "ep0" ? insert echo 3Com Etherlink III inserted insert /etc/pccard_ether ep0 -link0 link1 remove echo 3Com Etherlink III removed remove /sbin/ifconfig ep0 delete From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 13:01:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA20468 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:01:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA20463 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:01:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21358; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:01:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA10446; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:01:31 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:01:31 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711132101.OAA10446@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Rob Mallory Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adaptec pcmcia scsi In-Reply-To: <199711132040.MAA17763@tarkin.qualcomm.com> References: <199711130500.WAA07708@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199711132040.MAA17763@tarkin.qualcomm.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just tried it with yesterday's pccard.conf, and my etherlink3 is > not picked up properly... But the aic is attached just fine. Which is in slot 0, and which is in slot 1? > I have the internal mss sound disabled, along with the ir port. I'll *BET* that even though it's disabled, the IRQ is still 'in use', which would explain why the etherlink3 might now work if it's attempting to use irq 5. > This > free'd up a few interrupts. The aic card seems to like irq 10 the best. > The 3c589 seems to like irq 10 or 11 the best. > > Here is my cut down pccard.conf which seems to work. > -Rob > > > # Sample PCCARD configuration file ... > # Generally available IRQs (Built-in sound-card owners remove 5) > irq 5 13 15 10 What will happen is that of these IRQ, those that are truly free will only work. I'm probably going to remove this code completely from /etc/pccard.conf in the future since it's of no use. The system now knows which interrupts are free and which are not, so there is no need to tell it what to use (except for bogusness in pccardd). Try messing with the IRQS here and see if that changes things with regards to using '?' for the IRQ on the 3C589. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 13:23:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA22278 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:23:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from linus.mitre.org (linus.mitre.org [129.83.10.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA22267 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:23:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cookson@linus.mitre.org) Received: from geeky (geeky [129.83.10.221]) by linus.mitre.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA07351 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:22:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:22:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Dean B. Cookson" Reply-To: "Dean B. Cookson" Subject: Unsupported Combo Cards To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've noticed that despite the fact that my Megahertz CC/XJEM3336 is unsupported, the modem half actually works. Unfortunatly, it's the ethernet half that's really the interesting bit to me. Is there a way to only use the ethernet half or should I a: Just go buy bloody ethernet card since they're only $100 or b: Sit tight and wait until the people working on the software have time to stop doing the stuff that they actually get paid for and make combo cards work. :-) ? Dean From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 13:33:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA23035 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:33:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA23028; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:33:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199711132133.NAA23028@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: going mobile! To: linus@LINUX.ORG Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:33:43 -0800 (PST) Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199711131925.LAA10326@hub.freebsd.org> from "linus@LINUX.ORG" at Nov 13, 97 11:25:21 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk linus@LINUX.ORG wrote: > > > > > > > hmm.....reaching the net thru a mainframe? very doubtful that linus sent this. >From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 13:15:32 1997 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA10496; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:27:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA10331 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:25:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (psuvm.psu.edu [128.118.56.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA10326 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:25:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from <@PSUVM.PSU.EDU:linus@LINUX.ORG>) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:25:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711131925.LAA10326@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from LINUX.ORG by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 13 Nov 97 14:21:02 EST To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG From: linus@LINUX.ORG Subject: going mobile! Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 15:03:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA00637 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:03:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from dcarmich.pr.mcs.net (dcarmich.pr.mcs.net [204.95.63.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA00629; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:03:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcarmich@dcarmich.pr.mcs.net) Received: (from dcarmich@localhost) by dcarmich.pr.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA01584; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:07:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dcarmich) From: Douglas Carmichael Message-Id: <199711132207.QAA01584@dcarmich.pr.mcs.net> Subject: Linus *couldn't* have sent that To: jmb@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:07:41 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk His account name is torvalds, not linus and it's *not* on linux.org either: [kruuna.helsinki.fi] Login: torvalds Name: Linus Torvalds Directory: /home/fs/torvalds Shell: /bin/tcsh last login on klaava Sat Nov 8 20:32:51 1997 on pts/13 from neon-best.transm New mail received Thu Oct 9 11:36:55 1997; unread since Fri Aug 15 14:18:17 1997 Plan: Free UN*X for the 386 and Alpha and ... LINUX 2.0 HAS BEEN RELEASED! Get it from: ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux ftp.cs.helsinki.fi pub/Software/Linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux and other sites. You'd better get the documentation from there too: no sense in having it in this plan.. Linus Torvalds (torvalds@transmeta.com) 3665 Benton Street #36 Santa Clara, California 95051 USA Login: tmonni Name: Tove S Torvalds Directory: /h/5/kkl/tmonni Shell: /bin/tcsh last login on kruuna Thu Nov 13 22:42:03 1997 on pts/20 from neon-best.transm Mail last read Thu Nov 13 22:42:24 1997 Plan: :-)===================================================================(-: | OSOITE KOTIIN | | | | 3665 Benton street apt # 36 | | Santa Clara, CA 95051 | | USA | | | | | | Kirjeita ja kortteja ja pienia lahjoja saa lahettaa vapaasti :-) | | | | | | | | SAHKOPOSTIA voi lahettaa OSOITTEELLA | | | | Tove.Torvalds@helsinki.fi | | | | | :-)===================================================================(-: From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 15:29:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA02542 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:29:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA02536 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:29:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22449; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:29:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA11350; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:29:28 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:29:28 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711132329.QAA11350@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Dean B. Cookson" Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unsupported Combo Cards In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've noticed that despite the fact that my Megahertz CC/XJEM3336 is > unsupported, the modem half actually works. Right, the 'first' half of the card works, but who knows which half it is when you buy it. > Unfortunatly, it's the ethernet > half that's really the interesting bit to me. Is there a way to only use > the ethernet half Not today. > or should I > a: Just go buy bloody ethernet card since they're only $100 > or > b: Sit tight and wait until the people working on the software have time > to stop doing the stuff that they actually get paid for and make combo cards > work. :-) Depends on how long you want to wait. If you need something in the next 3 months, don't hold your breath waiting. If you can wait that long, then it *might* work by then, but I still wouldn't make any bets. Basically, go buy an ethernet card. :) :) Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 15:39:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA03484 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:39:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA03471 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:39:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22534; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:38:43 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA11425; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:38:41 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:38:41 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711132338.QAA11425@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: spork Cc: "Brian N. Handy" , Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Good laptop < $2KUS In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > One thing to keep in mind with the cheap 560 is that it only has a 16K > cache, which slows things down a bit. Personally, I'd still be in favor of using the 560 since *for me*, speed is not as big an issue as the form factor/usability of the system, and the 560 is the best I've found for all of that. Plus, you can use XFree86 and save having to mess with XIG. :) Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 17:29:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA11699 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:29:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA11690 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:29:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA27104; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 01:26:45 GMT (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199711140126.BAA27104@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linus@LINUX.ORG cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: going mobile! In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:25:21 PST." <199711131925.LAA10326@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 01:26:45 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Yeah ! (BTW, this is a reply to linus@linux.org). Keep movin' ! (Oh dear, I hope I finish that bottle soon !) -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 17:30:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA11813 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:30:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA11800 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:30:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA27160; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 01:29:30 GMT (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199711140129.BAA27160@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Nate Williams cc: Guido van Rooij , patrick@cre8tivegroup.com, pachera@metrocon.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCMCIA support In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:14:09 MST." <199711132014.NAA09878@rocky.mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 01:29:30 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Because you haven't created the devices in /dev. > > > > > > # cd /dev > > > # MAKEDEV card0 > > > # MAKEDEV card1 > > > > > > > *evil*: never have "." in your path when being root!! > > True, sorry about that. (Besides, all of the shells whine at you if > this happens. :) ????? Not ``bash'' or ``sh'' or ``csh'' ! (looking for ``.'' in $PATH) > > Nate -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 17:37:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA12269 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:37:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA12260; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:36:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199711140136.RAA12260@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Good laptop < $2KUS To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:36:54 -0800 (PST) Cc: spork@super-g.com, handy@sag.space.lockheed.com, phk@critter.freebsd.dk, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199711132338.QAA11425@rocky.mt.sri.com> from "Nate Williams" at Nov 13, 97 04:38:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams wrote: > > > One thing to keep in mind with the cheap 560 is that it only has a 16K > > cache, which slows things down a bit. > > Personally, I'd still be in favor of using the 560 since *for me*, speed > is not as big an issue as the form factor/usability of the system, and > the 560 is the best I've found for all of that. Plus, you can use > XFree86 and save having to mess with XIG. :) teh 560 is 2 pounds (nearly 1 kg) lighter. overtime it makes a real difference. jmb From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 13 18:21:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA15690 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:21:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from inertia.dfacades.com (inertia.dfacades.com [207.155.93.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA15682 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:20:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dleeds@dfacades.com) Received: (from dleeds@localhost) by inertia.dfacades.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA27418 for mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:24:22 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Leeds Message-Id: <199711140224.SAA27418@inertia.dfacades.com> Subject: thanks to nate! To: mobile@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:24:21 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL35 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just wanted to send a quick note to -mobile thanking Nate Williams for his time and support in helping me get my adaptec 1460 pcmcia card up and going. per his suggestions im at STABLE, and am running smooth, just dumped my external 2gig scsi-2 drive to an external scsi-2 DAT. :) thanks nate! From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 14 10:43:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA21820 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:43:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from iglou1 (exim@iglou1.iglou.com [192.107.41.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA21809 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:43:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patrick@cre8tivegroup.com) Received: from gateway.cre8tivegroup.com [204.255.227.102] by iglou1 with smtp (8.7.3/8.6.12) id 0xWQhC-0000vD-00; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:42:22 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:33:49 -0500 (EST) Organization: The Creative Group From: Patrick Gardella To: Nate Williams , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: pccard.conf for Accton EN2216 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate and the rest of the -mobile gang: I wanted to add a pccard.conf for an Accton EN2216 Ethernet card: #Accton 2216 card "ACCTON" "EN2216-PCMCIA-ETHERNET" config 0x20 "ed0" 10 ether 0xff0 insert echo Accton 2216 inserted insert /etc/pccard_ether ed0 remove echo Accton 2216 removed remove /sbin/ifconfig ed0 delete It works for my new 2.2.5 machine. Patrick From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 14 10:50:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA22361 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:50:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA22341 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:50:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29551; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:50:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA15934; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:50:11 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:50:11 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711141850.LAA15934@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Patrick Gardella Cc: Nate Williams , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pccard.conf for Accton EN2216 In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > #Accton 2216 > card "ACCTON" "EN2216-PCMCIA-ETHERNET" > config 0x20 "ed0" 10 > ether 0xff0 I removed this line, since it's a no-op in FreeBSD. > insert echo Accton 2216 inserted > insert /etc/pccard_ether ed0 > remove echo Accton 2216 removed > remove /sbin/ifconfig ed0 delete I added this to -current. I'll bring it into 2.2.5-STABLE when I finish up some other changes I'm making to the pccard files in -current, so I'll do a mass merge then. The problem became *much* more obvious that these changes need to go in today at work, so I'll try and get to them today. > It works for my new 2.2.5 machine. Are you running 2.2.5, or 2.2.5-STABLE? If the former, upgrade to the latter which has *much* better suspend/resume support. (It's still not complete, but its getting there...) Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 14 13:40:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA06030 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from sysadmin.desi.net (moondance.desi.net [209.48.13.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA06012; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:40:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pachera@metrocon.com) Received: from metrocon.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sysadmin.desi.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA00730; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:39:43 GMT (envelope-from pachera@metrocon.com) Message-ID: <346C70BD.1767CF9C@metrocon.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:39:42 +0000 From: Sergey Pak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03b8 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG CC: nate@mt.sri.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ed0 driver Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------4DB45F5A2F5598D65F902A39" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --------------4DB45F5A2F5598D65F902A39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After I had compiled a new kernel with generic pcmcia support I changed ze0 driver for my IBM network adapter to ed0 driver. It worked but I keep getting a very nasty message "ed0: NIC memory corrupt - invalid packet length 59169". What possibly can I change in /etc/pccard.conf or kernel to get rid of the problem. Is ed0 driver is good for my network card? What if I try to test ep0 driver? Thanks for your help. -- Sergey Pak, Donnelley Enterprise Solutions Inc. 312-4197643 Voice 312-4197659 Fax pachera@metrocon.com E-mail --------------4DB45F5A2F5598D65F902A39 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After I had compiled a new kernel with generic pcmcia support I changed ze0 driver for my IBM network adapter to ed0 driver. It worked but I keep getting a very nasty message "ed0: NIC memory corrupt - invalid packet length 59169".
What possibly can I change in /etc/pccard.conf or kernel to get rid of the problem. Is ed0 driver is good for my network card?
What if I try to test ep0 driver?

Thanks for your help. 

-- 
Sergey Pak, Donnelley Enterprise Solutions Inc.
312-4197643             Voice
312-4197659             Fax
pachera@metrocon.com    E-mail
  --------------4DB45F5A2F5598D65F902A39-- From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 14 15:09:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA11215 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:09:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com ([206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA11210 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:09:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01273; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:09:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA16808; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:09:02 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:09:02 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711142309.QAA16808@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Sergey Pak Cc: nate@mt.sri.com, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ed0 driver In-Reply-To: <346C70BD.1767CF9C@metrocon.com> References: <346C70BD.1767CF9C@metrocon.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ Limited Cc: to just mobile ] > After I had compiled a new kernel with generic pcmcia support I changed > ze0 driver for my IBM network adapter to ed0 driver. It worked but I > keep getting a very nasty message "ed0: NIC memory corrupt - invalid > packet length 59169". Hmm, that's no good. > What possibly can I change in /etc/pccard.conf or kernel to get rid of > the problem. Is ed0 driver is good for my network card? The ed0 driver is arguably the best ISA driver in FreeBSD. Does the system still appear to work fine in spite of the messages? > What if I try to test ep0 driver? It wouldn't work, since it's designed for 3Com cards, and not for the IBM card. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Nov 15 18:59:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA12639 for mobile-outgoing; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 18:59:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from csa500.isu.edu.tw (csa500.isu.edu.tw [140.127.176.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA12624 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 18:58:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from b8403824@csa500.isu.edu.tw) Received: by csa500.isu.edu.tw; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/15Mar97-0943AM) id AA00438; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 10:57:29 +0800 From: 8403824 Message-Id: <9711160257.AA00438@csa500.isu.edu.tw> Subject: how to install FreeBSD into my NOTE-BOOK??? To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 10:57:28 +0800 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi....all... i want to install FreeBSD into my NOTE-BOOK... and...how i can do ????How can i booting it from the second partition??? Where can i get the detail date about FreeBSD on mobile computer???? thank you ..... zenlin