From owner-freebsd-www Sun Jan 12 20:33:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA18315 for www-outgoing; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 20:33:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ingenieria ([168.176.15.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA18310 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 20:32:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from unalmodem.usc.unal.edu.co by ingenieria (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA03964; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:20:05 -0500 Message-ID: <32D9E4B3.75D4@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:30:59 -0800 From: "Pedro Giffuni S." Reply-To: m230761@ingenieria.ingsala.unal.edu.co Organization: Universidad Nacional de Colombia X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Helping the Free Software Foundation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I wanted to suggest the addition of a link to the Free Software Foundation's Web site at: http://www.gnu.ai.mit.edu (AKA www.gnu.org) I didn't see it in the list of related projects, and considering the software we use, it would be good to support them... best regards, Pedro Giffuni S. From owner-freebsd-www Sun Jan 12 22:56:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA23334 for www-outgoing; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 22:56:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccsales.ccsales.com (ccsales.com [206.5.38.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA23291; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 22:56:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rkntws40casa ([206.5.38.46]) by ccsales.ccsales.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA08540; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:01:48 -0800 Message-ID: <32D9DB90.6E3D@ccsales.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 22:52:00 -0800 From: Randy Katz Reply-To: randyk@ccsales.com Organization: CCSales, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, support@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RAID Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are there any ports of drivers for RAID hardware that run under FreeBSD? Do you know if there is a mailing list/group for this? Thanx, Randy Katz From owner-freebsd-www Sun Jan 12 23:01:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA23643 for www-outgoing; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:01:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from DNS.Lamb.net (root@DNS.Lamb.net [207.90.181.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA23605; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:01:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from PacBell.TelcoSucks.org (ulf@PacBell.TelcoSucks.org [207.90.181.5]) by DNS.Lamb.net (8.8.4/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA05682; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:13:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970112230314.006a55a0@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net> X-Sender: ulf@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:03:15 -0800 To: randyk@ccsales.com, www@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, support@freebsd.org From: Ulf Zimmermann Subject: Re: RAID Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would suggest to look into the Mylex or CMD SCSI-to-SCSI RAIDs. Ulf. At 10:52 PM 1/12/97 -0800, Randy Katz wrote: >Are there any ports of drivers for RAID hardware that run under FreeBSD? >Do you know if there is a mailing list/group for this? > >Thanx, >Randy Katz > > ----------------------------------------------------------- Alameda Networks, Inc. | Ulf Zimmermann (ulf@Alameda.net) 1525 Pacific Avenue | Phone: (510)769-2936 Alameda, CA 94501 | Fax : (510)521-5073 From owner-freebsd-www Sun Jan 12 23:47:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA26201 for www-outgoing; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA26162; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA16849; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:47:03 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.4/8.6.9) id XAA11708; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:46:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:46:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199701130746.XAA11708@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: randyk@ccsales.com CC: www@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, support@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <32D9DB90.6E3D@ccsales.com> (message from Randy Katz on Sun, 12 Jan 1997 22:52:00 -0800) Subject: Re: RAID From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * From: Randy Katz I thought I told you before that "ports" is for application software, not hardware. ;) * Are there any ports of drivers for RAID hardware that run under FreeBSD? * Do you know if there is a mailing list/group for this? You can try hardware@freebsd.org. By the way, there is a software striped disk driver called ccd(4) but it only supports RAID0 and RAID1 (i.e., mirroring). Satoshi From owner-freebsd-www Mon Jan 13 12:14:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA02749 for www-outgoing; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from connect1.connect.it (connect1.connect.it [194.179.160.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA02730 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:14:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from connect1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by connect1.connect.it (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA11933 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:15:40 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <32DA97E8.5A6C@connect.it> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:15:36 +0100 From: Franz Organization: connect.it X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: exchange of link Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We'd like to make an exchange between ours links. Our url is:www.connect.it We are waiting for jour answeer Thank you for your time Web master connect Franz From owner-freebsd-www Mon Jan 13 14:15:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA09746 for www-outgoing; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:15:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from calliope.fm.intel.com (calliope.fm.intel.com [132.233.247.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA09733 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcocd2.intel.com by calliope.fm.intel.com (8.8.4/10.0i); Mon, 13 Jan 1997 22:00:04 GMT Received: from ddonelx-desk (ddonnelx-desk.fm.intel.com) by pcocd2.intel.com with SMTP id AA10542 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:58:04 -0800 Message-Id: <30F81D31.19A4@ccm.fm.intel.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 13:59:29 -0800 From: Devin Donnelly Reply-To: ias_request@ccm.fm.intel.com Organization: Intel X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: www@freebsd.org Subject: Intel Support Site has Moved Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We are migrating our support content to a new server. Please change your bookmarks to reflect this move and visit us at our new site, http://support.intel.com. If you are looking for support information for Intel-manufactured motherboards, that too has changed, please access our new site at http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd. Legal stuff From owner-freebsd-www Mon Jan 13 16:14:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA18182 for www-outgoing; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:14:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA18175 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA11537 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:14:08 -0800 (PST) Prev-Resent: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:14:08 -0800 Prev-Resent: "www@freefall " Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (jkh-sl0-o.cdrom.com [204.216.27.193]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA09169 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:00:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pegasus.isr.uc.pt (pegasus.isr.uc.pt [193.136.230.60]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA17389 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by pegasus.isr.uc.pt (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12269; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 23:57:06 GMT Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 23:57:06 +0000 (WET) From: Paulo Menezes X-Sender: paulo@pegasus Reply-To: Paulo Menezes To: jkh@freebsd.org Subject: WWW mirror Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-To: www@freefall.FreeBSD.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:14:08 -0800 Resent-Message-ID: <11533.853200848@time.cdrom.com> Resent-From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan, The www2.pt.freebsd.org is up and running. Please add to the list of sites. Thanks Paulo From owner-freebsd-www Mon Jan 13 19:26:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA29604 for www-outgoing; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:26:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from hemi.com (hemi.com [204.132.158.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA29593 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:25:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mbarkah@localhost) by hemi.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) id UAA01660; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:25:32 -0700 (MST) From: Ade Barkah Message-Id: <199701140325.UAA01660@hemi.com> Subject: Re: WWW mirror To: paulo@isr.uc.pt Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:25:32 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from Paulo Menezes at "Jan 13, 97 11:57:06 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The www2.pt.freebsd.org is up and running. Paulo, The site will be included on the next rebuild (tomorrow.) Thanks! Regards, -Ade ------------------------------------------------------------------- Inet: mbarkah@hemi.com - HEMISPHERE ONLINE - ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-www Mon Jan 13 19:33:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA29809 for www-outgoing; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:33:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from hemi.com (hemi.com [204.132.158.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA29802 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mbarkah@localhost) by hemi.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) id UAA01973; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:32:13 -0700 (MST) From: Ade Barkah Message-Id: <199701140332.UAA01973@hemi.com> Subject: Re: exchange of link To: franz@connect.it (Franz) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:32:12 -0700 (MST) Cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <32DA97E8.5A6C@connect.it> from Franz at "Jan 13, 97 09:15:36 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > We'd like to make an exchange between ours links. > Our url is:www.connect.it > We are waiting for jour answeer > Thank you for your time > Web master connect > Franz Franz, Is the site FreeBSD related ? We typically only link to sites using FreeBSD or related to FreeBSD in some other way. It seems that you are using a variant of SVR4 exclusively. Regards, -Ade ------------------------------------------------------------------- Inet: mbarkah@hemi.com - HEMISPHERE ONLINE - ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-www Mon Jan 13 19:40:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA00310 for www-outgoing; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:40:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from hemi.com (hemi.com [204.132.158.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA00299 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mbarkah@localhost) by hemi.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) id UAA02444; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:40:22 -0700 (MST) From: Ade Barkah Message-Id: <199701140340.UAA02444@hemi.com> Subject: Re: Broken link To: ic@campus.luth.se (Joachim Isaksson) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:40:13 -0700 (MST) Cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <32D6B038.41C67EA6@campus.luth.se> from Joachim Isaksson at "Jan 10, 97 10:10:16 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/index.html > > the link "IP Aliasing" is broken. > > Is there any other source of this information? I could "sort of" > use it. /Joachim, I'm not sure if you received a reply yet or not. Sorry about that. In any case, you can view the IP Aliasing tutorial at: http://lightstorm.gage.com/~black/ipalias.html John Fieber has also fixed our link to the page, which will be reflected tomorrow (Tuesday) morning. Please let us know should you need further assistance, and thanks for the report! -Ade ------------------------------------------------------------------- Inet: mbarkah@hemi.com - HEMISPHERE ONLINE - ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-www Tue Jan 14 00:26:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA29910 for www-outgoing; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 00:26:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from hemi.com (hemi.com [204.132.158.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA29905 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 00:26:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mbarkah@localhost) by hemi.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) id BAA12872; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:16:24 -0700 (MST) From: Ade Barkah Message-Id: <199701140816.BAA12872@hemi.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/data commercial.sgml To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:16:24 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <21370.853212570@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Jan 13, 97 07:29:30 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan wrote: > It's probably time for us to break this page into summary infor- > mation and 3 detail pages, one for each of hardware, software and > consultants. Please review: http://freebsd.hemi.com/commercial it reflects the commercial.sgml page in four sections. Unfortu- nately freebsd.hemi.com moved to a slow (28.8k ppp) link for this week, so be a little patient. =-) (I had to take the machine home.) I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks! -Ade cc: freebsd-www ------------------------------------------------------------------- Inet: mbarkah@hemi.com - HEMISPHERE ONLINE - ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-www Tue Jan 14 00:38:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA00786 for www-outgoing; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 00:38:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA00776 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 00:38:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA22781; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 00:38:28 -0800 (PST) To: Ade Barkah cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/data commercial.sgml In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:16:24 MST." <199701140816.BAA12872@hemi.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 00:38:28 -0800 Message-ID: <22777.853231108@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Please review: > > http://freebsd.hemi.com/commercial OK, my comments so far: "For your convenience, we have divided our growing commercial listing into several sections. If you know of other companies supporting FreeBSD that should be added to this page, please be sure to let us know." The link at "let us know" points to mailto.html, which doesn't really provide the expected "fill in your information" screen so much as it does general information. I think this should point to the gallery/commercial page submission form. In http://freebsd.hemi.com/commercial/misc.html, you reference the now-departed coffee mugs and tee-shirts. Walnut Creek doesn't do those anymore. :( Otherwise, it looks just fine! I assume that sub-sectioning the gallery page is a project for later? ;-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Tue Jan 14 05:53:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA13544 for www-outgoing; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 05:53:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id FAA13536 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 05:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA02962; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:53:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:53:26 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Ade Barkah , freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/data commercial.sgml In-Reply-To: <22777.853231108@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Please review: > > > > http://freebsd.hemi.com/commercial > > The link at "let us know" points to mailto.html, which doesn't really > provide the expected "fill in your information" screen so much as it > does general information. I think this should point to the > gallery/commercial page submission form. Its really only a gallery form; it would need some tweaks for submitting the longer commercial entries. > Otherwise, it looks just fine! I assume that sub-sectioning the Ditto. Of course, commercial became a subdirectory, references to /commercial.html will have to be hunted down and changed... -john From owner-freebsd-www Tue Jan 14 15:08:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA14332 for www-outgoing; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:08:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.3.53]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA14327 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from uhunix3.its.hawaii.edu ([128.171.44.52]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <587228(2)>; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:02:01 -1000 Received: from localhost by uhunix3.its.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <188158(9)>; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:04:19 -1000 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:04:12 -1000 From: Mark William Acosta X-Sender: mwa@uhunix3 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Aloha! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings from Hawai'i! I am the Sys Admin/Webmaster of Alaka'i Software and it would have been impossible to be where we are (not that far!) with out FreeBSD. We don't have any capitol to contribute(yet, at least) but we could give you some software if you want. It is a cgi-script that is VERY dynamic and could be used to maintain your webpages. We could even set up features that allow on-line maintenance so no one has to dilly dally setting up the webpages. I would be willing to put in some time after work everyday to help set it up if you want. Our URL is http://167.216.3.16/ So look it over if you have time. If you think it'll help let me know and we can get things rolling. We really appreciate the effort and work that everyone has done to create,maintain and support FreeBSD. Thanks, Aloha, Mark From owner-freebsd-www Tue Jan 14 16:05:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA17766 for www-outgoing; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:05:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA17755 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA07456; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:04:14 -0800 (PST) To: Mark William Acosta cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Aloha! In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:04:12 -1000." Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:04:13 -0800 Message-ID: <7453.853286653@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Greetings from Hawai'i! I am the Sys Admin/Webmaster of Alaka'i Software > and it would have been impossible to be where we are (not that far!) with > out FreeBSD. We don't have any capitol to contribute(yet, at least) but we > could give you some software if you want. It is a cgi-script that is VERY > dynamic and could be used to maintain your webpages. We could even set up Are you talking about the "abase" software I see demo'd there? It looks quite interesting, and I'd be very interested in knowing how it could be applied more or less immediately in the following 3 areas: 1. Commercial vendor entries. 2. New release information. 3. Post-a-project page (#3 is something we don't do yet, but NetBSD has something along those lines set up at http://www.netbsd.org/Projects/ which I've been admiring for awhile now). Maintaining our highly dynamic information has always been something of a pain, and if there was a mechanism which allowed authenticated users to simply use their browsers to do all the page maintenance, that might be very interesting. Of course, we keep all of our web pages under CVS control for easy mirroring (already having the mechanisms set up for replicating the CVS tree) so we'd need to make sure that changes to your database were reflected in our respository, but I imagine that wouldn't be too hard? Tell us more! :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Tue Jan 14 16:48:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA20745 for www-outgoing; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (root@relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.3.53]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA20730 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from uhunix3.its.hawaii.edu ([128.171.44.52]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <587164(9)>; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:45:31 -1000 Received: from localhost by uhunix3.its.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <188156(1)>; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:47:45 -1000 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:47:39 -1000 From: Mark William Acosta X-Sender: mwa@uhunix3 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Aloha! In-Reply-To: <7453.853286653@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Are you talking about the "abase" software I see demo'd there? > Yes, 'Abase' is the software I am talking about > It looks quite interesting, and I'd be very interested in knowing how > it could be applied more or less immediately in the following 3 areas: > > 1. Commercial vendor entries. > 2. New release information. > 3. Post-a-project page > Abase is comprehensive. It can handle passwords and different users so that isn't a problem. We could have a database(s)(faq's, howto's,projects,etc) that Authentic user's could edit as they wish. Abase can then process the database with the appropriate layout and there you have your updated html page. So this can certainly be done online with a decent browser. You just have to back sure the design and layout of the page is cool. The post-a-project page would be pretty easy to implement. Take a look at http://167.216.3.16/smotherparty/new/ Check out fan club guestbook and Smother board and the chat thing too if you want. also look at http://167.216.3.16/lorrin.wong/ These are all done with Abase The design of this is kinda crappy. We have to find someone with an artistic touch. I strongly believe in keeping things simple and automated as much as possible. I think our 'abase' is a step in that direction for webstuff. Oh, the database needs to be tab delimited for the moment. If your database is some other form I am pretty sure we can make it fit. Sorry this email is so ugly. Let me know what you think! Mark From owner-freebsd-www Tue Jan 14 17:22:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA23232 for www-outgoing; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA23226 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA08392; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:22:23 -0800 (PST) To: Mark William Acosta cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Aloha! In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:47:39 -1000." Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:22:23 -0800 Message-ID: <8388.853291343@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Abase is comprehensive. It can handle passwords and different > users so that isn't a problem. We could have a database(s)(faq's, > howto's,projects,etc) that Authentic user's could edit as they > wish. Abase can then process the database > with the appropriate layout and there you have your updated html page. So Well, it sounds like the next stage would be evaluation. Martin Cracauer is the CGI engineer around here, so I guess it basically falls to him to decide how and where abase might be used in our web pages. Martin, meet Mark. Mark, meet Martin! :) Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jan 15 03:34:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id DAA22560 for www-outgoing; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 03:34:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE [160.45.24.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id DAA22547 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 03:34:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from mail.hanse.de (193.174.9.9) with smtp id ; Wed, 15 Jan 97 12:33 MET Received: from wavehh.UUCP by mail.hanse.de with UUCP for www@FreeBSD.ORG id ; Wed, 15 Jan 97 12:33 MET Received: by wavehh.hanse.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22423; Wed, 15 Jan 97 08:35:50 +0100 From: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer) Message-Id: <9701150735.AA22423@wavehh.hanse.de> Subject: Re: Aloha! To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 08:35:49 +0100 (MET) Cc: mwa@hawaii.edu, www@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <8388.853291343@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jan 14, 97 05:22:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Abase is comprehensive. It can handle passwords and different > > users so that isn't a problem. We could have a database(s)(faq's, > > howto's,projects,etc) that Authentic user's could edit as they > > wish. Abase can then process the database > > with the appropriate layout and there you have your updated html page. So > > Well, it sounds like the next stage would be evaluation. > > Martin Cracauer is the CGI engineer around > here, so I guess it basically falls to him to decide how and where > abase might be used in our web pages. > > Martin, meet Mark. Mark, meet Martin! :) ACK. I'll look over your Webpages this evening. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://cracauer.cons.org Fax +49 40 522 85 36 From owner-freebsd-www Thu Jan 16 08:37:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA29293 for www-outgoing; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from hil-img-1.compuserve.com (hil-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.177.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA29286 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:37:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by hil-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id LAA19602; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:37:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:36:53 -0500 From: mark verna Subject: info. To: "www@FreeBSD.ORG www@FreeBSD.ORG" Message-ID: <199701161137_MC2-E3A-9435@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can you tell me about free bsd service. thank you tco@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jan 17 01:39:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA20263 for www-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id BAA20256 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA13620 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:39:48 -0800 (PST) To: www@freebsd.org Subject: www and doc mailing list confusion Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:39:47 -0800 Message-ID: <13614.853493987@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to make the doc mailing list a superset of www, with www@freebsd.org basically being one of the members of the doc list. Anyone on the doc list who's also in www will, of course, be collapsed to a single www entry to avoid duplicates. My reasoning behind this is that it's otherwise too difficult to make sure that web and quasi-web stuff sent to doc is being read by the web page maintainence folks too, and most of the subject material is of mutual interest (except for the purely web-related issues, of course, which should still go just to www). Am I making any sense? :-) Any objections? Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jan 17 05:15:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA28525 for www-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:15:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from bureau3.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau3.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id FAA28519 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:15:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from computer31 ([206.47.238.133]) by bureau3.utcc.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <258059(2)>; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:15:14 -0500 Message-ID: <32DF351F.1CA3@utoronto.ca> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 03:15:27 -0500 From: Edward Ing X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: The freebsd-questions mailing list, or adding new mailing lists. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The freebsd-questions mailings is getting quite big. Is there a way of splitting the mailing list? For instance, I am interested in JAVA. Could a new discussion group be produced? Edward Ing From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jan 17 05:26:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA28934 for www-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:26:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id FAA28920 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from uucp6.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp6.UU.NET [192.48.96.37]) id QQbywr28367; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:26:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from conga.UUCP by uucp6.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:26:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by conga.unisrc.com ; 17 JAN 97 08:23:10 EDT Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:23:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Gary C. Heller" X-Sender: gaz@conga Reply-To: gaz@unisrc.com To: www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PerfectBACKUP+ - Motif version In-Reply-To: <5602.853506450@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I've ported my backup program and interface to 2.2 (November > > snapshot) if you want to have a look at it. You can download it from > > http://home.xl.ca/perfectBackup/evals.htm > > If you want to submit a short paragraph for it to www@freebsd.org, the > webmasters will be happy to put something up at > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial.html for you! > > Jordan Hello. As mentioned above I've ported PerfectBACKUP+ to FreeBSD 2.2. Its the worlds fastest UNIX backup program (and has been since 1987). Its been license by Hewlett Packard and Sunsoft for OEM deals. Its *VERY* fast, has many features and is easy to use. The character interface matches exactly the FASTBACK PLUS interface (from the DOS world) and the Motif interface is second to none. Compatible with tar and cpio it is network enabled with or without NFS. Price is $99 for FreeBSD and free evals can be downloaded from http://home.xl.ca/perfectBackup. Its a great performer for a great performing O.S. Thanx, Gary. Gary C. Heller Unisource Systems, Inc. 1409 North Cove Blvd. Longwood, FL 32750 Ph: 407-834-1973 Fax: 407-834-1973 Email: gaz@unisrc.com Reply-To: gaz@unisrc.com From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jan 17 05:36:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA29480 for www-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:36:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id FAA29475 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:36:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA25636; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:36:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:36:05 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www and doc mailing list confusion In-Reply-To: <13614.853493987@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Am I making any sense? :-) Yes. The last post I fired off to doc (checking your work) was intended for www, but my fingers just went too fast.... -john From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jan 17 05:46:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA29915 for www-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:46:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from spunky.eos.ncsu.edu (spunky.eos.ncsu.edu [152.1.68.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id FAA29908 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:46:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nsj@localhost) by spunky.eos.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/EC19Dec96) id IAA06763 for www@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:46:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701171346.IAA06763@spunky.eos.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: www and doc mailing list confusion To: www@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:46:27 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <13614.853493987@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jan 17, 97 01:39:47 am Reply-To: nate@ncsu.edu From: nate@ncsu.edu (Nate Johnson) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24/POP] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk %My reasoning behind this is that it's otherwise too difficult to make %sure that web and quasi-web stuff sent to doc is being read by the web %page maintainence folks too, and most of the subject material is of %mutual interest (except for the purely web-related issues, of course, %which should still go just to www). Sounds like what I thought was happening as it stood now. Either way, it makes sense to me. Cheers, nsj -- nate@ncsu.edu / nsj@eos.ncsu.edu / nsj@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jan 17 05:53:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA00294 for www-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from hemi.com (hemi.com [204.132.158.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id FAA00289 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mbarkah@localhost) by hemi.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) id GAA16031; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:21:56 -0700 (MST) From: Ade Barkah Message-Id: <199701171321.GAA16031@hemi.com> Subject: Test CGI interface... (was: Re: cvs commit: www/data comm...) To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:21:55 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <22777.853231108@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Jan 14, 97 00:38:28 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > http://freebsd.hemi.com/commercial > > The link at "let us know" points to mailto.html, which doesn't really > provide the expected "fill in your information" screen so much as it > does general information. ... Sorry for the late late response, but see below. =-) I've changed my copy to just a mailto:www@freebsd.org for now, since as John pointed out the gallery.cgi doesn't really do what we'd want for these commercial entries. > In http://freebsd.hemi.com/commercial/misc.html, you reference the > now-departed coffee mugs and tee-shirts. Walnut Creek doesn't > do those anymore. :( Ack! Just when I wanted to buy a mug. =-( I've put a more generic entry instead. > Otherwise, it looks just fine! I assume that sub-sectioning the > gallery page is a project for later? ;-) Sure, just tempt me. =-) Please review http://freebsd.hemi.com/gallery.html. I've: 1) Set up a database locally (Postgres 95 v6.00 beta), and moved the gallery entries into the database. I've thought about having them in a simple hash, but I think a full database will be useful (for instance, the commercial entries can just be added as another table.) 2) Written a CGI script (Martin, you want it ?) to access the Postgres backend and produce an HTML file with FreeBSD's "look and feel". It tells the backend to spit out entries matching a specific category (Commercial, Non-Profit, and Personal), sorted by name. Pretty small. 3) Modified gallery.sgml to access the CGI script. Notes: a. I chose Postgres, but mSQL is likely sufficient. Regardless, this means that freefall (or most likely spatter) will need a database system installed if one isn't there already if we go this way. I used Edmund Mergl's pg95perl5 API to access the backend from Perl. b. Not wanting to manually type 200+ gallery entries into the database, I have a Perl script do it for me, but unfortunately my regexp only catched maybe 95% of the entries. I'll add the rest manually or something. Some other things... The sorting order doesn't fold case, so "AZ" is lower than "ab". Also doesn't handle names starting with "The" properly. The table looks as follows: create table gallery ( organization varchar, description varchar, url varchar, category varchar, contact_email varchar, date date ); Hopefully with the date field, the CGI can automatically mark "New" entries with the cute .gif file (currently not implemented.) None of the "contact email" addresses are filled in for now. Mmm, what else. Oh, yeah, the source is in ~mbarkah/cgi on freefall. It needs Lincoln Stein's CGI.pm to run. I'd appreciate any comments as always. Cya, -Ade ------------------------------------------------------------------- Inet: mbarkah@hemi.com - HEMISPHERE ONLINE - ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jan 17 06:51:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA05992 for www-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ykt0.attnet.or.jp (ykt0.attnet.or.jp [165.76.24.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA05982 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:51:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from 17.gate1.yokota.attnet.or.jp by ykt0.attnet.or.jp (8.7.5+Spin/3.4W4-PP-R4(07/08/96)) id XAA12957; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:51:23 +0900 (JST) Received: by 17.gate1.yokota.attnet.or.jp with Microsoft Mail id <01BC04D1.F82B6240@17.gate1.yokota.attnet.or.jp>; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:55:51 +-900 Message-ID: <01BC04D1.F82B6240@17.gate1.yokota.attnet.or.jp> From: TIMONTHY WHITE To: "'www@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: what i need Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:47:11 +-900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by freefall.freebsd.org id GAA05988 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk can you give me a hint of how many files there are to freebsd and where they are located on your server or mirror sites. it's pretty hard to navigate and find what i need. thanx in advance From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jan 17 11:46:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA22257 for www-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA22251 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:46:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA26325; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:45:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:45:46 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Ade Barkah cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Test CGI interface... (was: Re: cvs commit: www/data comm...) In-Reply-To: <199701171321.GAA16031@hemi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Ade Barkah wrote: > 1) Set up a database locally (Postgres 95 v6.00 beta), and moved > the gallery entries into the database. I've thought about having > them in a simple hash, but I think a full database will be useful > (for instance, the commercial entries can just be added as another > table.) Another plus is the possiblity of a simple remote administration. The gallery submission form could put the entries directly into the database, but with a "hidden" flag set. The maintainer could quickly query those with that flag set, verify the entries and clear the flag. > a. I chose Postgres, but mSQL is likely sufficient. Regardless, this For this application, I'd strongly put in a plug for mSQL, or even a perl script that chews up a one-record-per-line flat file. Postgres is quite a load for such a small application; the startup overhead is in particular is a killer. I have a service on my machine that uses postgres and I sure can tell when somebody hits it without looking even looking at top! (http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/mapfinder, this databse has records for 310,000 items, and one table with over 1 million entries.) > The sorting order doesn't fold case, so "AZ" is lower than "ab". Also > doesn't handle names starting with "The" properly. The cgi could suck the results into an array and sort using its own algorithm. > create table gallery ( > organization varchar, > description varchar, > url varchar, > category varchar, > contact_email varchar, > date date > ); I'd add another date field "checked". We should be either manually or automagically verifying the entries periodically and that could be useful. Now for the bad news: This scheme presents some problems for mirroring. Unless the system can be easily duplicated (not likely considering many mirrors won't even run cgi scripts), it will be yet another portion of the web pages that people have to trek all the way back to freefall to get, which is something to be avoided whenever possible. Heck, I am at a well connected site in Indiana and have a hard time getting through sometimes! This does not necessairly mean ditching the database idea. Rather, it means generating static copies of the pages during daily regeneration process. Of course, could still a problem for people who want to mirror the web source and generate their live pages locally. Something to think about. -john From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jan 17 12:12:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA22996 for www-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:12:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ptero.ag.com.br (agsist.ag.com.br [200.255.215.239]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA22991 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:12:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ricardo.ag.com.br (ricardo.ag.com.br [10.0.0.2]) by ptero.ag.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA22075; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:11:28 -0200 Message-ID: <32DFE9F4.31BC@ag.com.br> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:07:00 -0300 From: Ricardo AG Reply-To: ricardag@ag.com.br Organization: AG Sistemas X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Fieber CC: Ade Barkah , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Test CGI interface... (was: Re: cvs commit: www/data comm...) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Fieber wrote: > > > a. I chose Postgres, but mSQL is likely sufficient. Regardless, this > > For this application, I'd strongly put in a plug for mSQL, or > even a perl script that chews up a one-record-per-line flat file. I agree tottaly with you. Please, wait until Mon, Jan 20. I'm working had on this, with a C script and a plain text file. > Now for the bad news: This scheme presents some problems for > mirroring. Unless the system can be easily duplicated (not > likely considering many mirrors won't even run cgi scripts), it > will be yet another portion of the web pages that people have to > trek all the way back to freefall to get, which is something to > be avoided whenever possible. Heck, I am at a well connected > site in Indiana and have a hard time getting through sometimes! I think that I can turn the CGI script into a HTML-generator automata, that create the pages every time the database changes, even to remove the old "new" flagged entries (I believe that the "new" flag must remain for one month, not more) > This does not necessairly mean ditching the database idea. > Rather, it means generating static copies of the pages during > daily regeneration process. Of course, could still a problem for > people who want to mirror the web source and generate their live > pages locally. Oops! You had stolen the words from my mouth!! :) Best regards, Ricardo From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jan 17 14:49:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA01894 for www-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:49:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from hemi.com (hemi.com [204.132.158.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA01889 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mbarkah@localhost) by hemi.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) id PAA03216; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:49:34 -0700 (MST) From: Ade Barkah Message-Id: <199701172249.PAA03216@hemi.com> Subject: Re: Test CGI interface... (was: Re: cvs commit: www/data comm...) To: ricardag@ag.com.br Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:49:33 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <32DFE9F4.31BC@ag.com.br> from Ricardo AG at "Jan 17, 97 06:07:00 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > For this application, I'd strongly put in a plug for mSQL, or > > even a perl script that chews up a one-record-per-line flat file. > > I agree tottaly with you. Please, wait until Mon, Jan 20. I'm working > had on this, with a C script and a plain text file. Ricardo, Thanks for working on this too. Look forward to see your program! Regards, -Ade ------------------------------------------------------------------- Inet: mbarkah@hemi.com - HEMISPHERE ONLINE - ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jan 17 15:25:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA04664 for www-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:25:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from hemi.com (hemi.com [204.132.158.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA04659 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mbarkah@localhost) by hemi.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) id PAA03166; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:48:32 -0700 (MST) From: Ade Barkah Message-Id: <199701172248.PAA03166@hemi.com> Subject: Re: Test CGI interface... (was: Re: cvs commit: www/data comm...) To: jfieber@indiana.edu (John Fieber) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:48:32 -0700 (MST) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-www@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from John Fieber at "Jan 17, 97 02:45:46 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Fieber wrote: > For this application, I'd strongly put in a plug for mSQL, > or even a perl script that chews up a one-record-per-line > flat file. [...] > Now for the bad news: This scheme presents some problems > for mirroring. [...] This does not necessairly mean ditching > the database idea. Rather, it means generating static copies > of the pages during daily regeneration process. Yeah. I can't seem to think of a good way to integrate the database for mirroring. Since the database doesn't actually change constantly, a live CGI isn't really needed, of course. We should just make static pages daily as you suggest. I've adapted a new version that uses a '|' delimited flat-file. The http://freebsd.hemi.com/gallery.html has been updated to use this version in CGI mode. The output is identical to the Postgres version (i.e., I haven't put in any new features.) Now, like the old one, this new version can be called as a CGI, or can be called directly from the command line to facilitate creating static pages. That is, one can call it with: ./flat-query.cgi category=Commercial > gallery-commercial.html and simply distribute the .html file. =-) Makes it easier for people who'd like to build from source, too. > I'd add another date field "checked". We should be either > manually or automagically verifying the entries periodically and > that could be useful. Good idea. I'll add "checked" and a boolean field "disabled" (for new entries, and old links with problems.) If this looks like the way to go, then I'll write a simple program to manipulate the flat- file. Cya, -Ade ------------------------------------------------------------------- Inet: mbarkah@hemi.com - HEMISPHERE ONLINE - ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jan 17 18:48:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA16868 for www-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:48:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA16863 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA27416 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:48:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:48:18 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: www@freebsd.org Subject: Heads up to mirrors Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Of course I did not think of this until after I made the commits... To any mirrors who are getting the web source tree and building locally, you will have difficulties unless you have the latest and greatest SGML stuff from -current: src/usr.bin/sgmlfmt share/sgml By latest, I mean within the last five minutes. :) -john From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jan 17 20:47:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA20952 for www-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:47:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ykt0.attnet.or.jp (ykt0.attnet.or.jp [165.76.24.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA20947 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from 20.gate1.yokota.attnet.or.jp by ykt0.attnet.or.jp (8.7.5+Spin/3.4W4-PP-R4(07/08/96)) id NAA11967; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:47:25 +0900 (JST) Received: by 20.gate1.yokota.attnet.or.jp with Microsoft Mail id <01BC0546.C311BB20@20.gate1.yokota.attnet.or.jp>; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:51:53 +-900 Message-ID: <01BC0546.C311BB20@20.gate1.yokota.attnet.or.jp> From: TIMONTHY WHITE To: "'www@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: What do I need? Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:56:44 +-900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by freefall.freebsd.org id UAA20948 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am having trouble finding where to download freebsd and i was wondering if i could get some help. Also I was wondering the size of the OS. thanx From owner-freebsd-www Sat Jan 18 09:10:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA19437 for www-outgoing; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from wave.cyberbeach.net (wave.cyberbeach.net [205.150.79.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA19428 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp1-68.cyberbeach.net (ppp1-68.cyberbeach.net [207.176.149.68]) by wave.cyberbeach.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id MAA00738 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 12:17:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32E12CCB.7D26@cyberbeach.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 12:04:27 -0800 From: Al Lefebvre X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@freebsd.org Subject: I need a program. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could you tell me where I could download a free software version of a math co-processor(if there is one) for a 486/sx. Reply as soon as possible. Thanks From owner-freebsd-www Sat Jan 18 10:28:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA22897 for www-outgoing; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 10:28:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsorter-1.alma.webtv.net (mailsorter-1.isp.alma.webtv.net [205.180.153.85]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA22892 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 10:28:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailtod-103.bryant.webtv.net (mailtod-103.iap.bryant.webtv.net [207.79.35.83]) by mailsorter-1.alma.webtv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15319; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 10:28:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by mailtod-103.bryant.webtv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25059; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 10:28:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199701181828.KAA25059@mailtod-103.bryant.webtv.net> From: Burdett@webtv.net (Arnold Swartz) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:28:18 -0500 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DOOM 1 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV 1.0) Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk