From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 00:15:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23057 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:15:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23052; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:15:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA09536; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:15:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:15:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812270815.AAA09536@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/systat vmstat.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/27 00:15:37 PST Modified files: usr.bin/systat vmstat.c Log: Don't waste precious space on showing the performance of fdX. (can get old behavior with -DWANT_FD) Revision Changes Path 1.30 +9 -1 src/usr.bin/systat/vmstat.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 00:28:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23661 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:28:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23656; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:28:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA09837; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:28:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:28:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812270828.AAA09837@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/sysutils/xosview Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/27 00:28:01 PST Modified files: sysutils/xosview Makefile Log: Is broken for all of 3.0, not just ELF. Revision Changes Path 1.10 +4 -2 ports/sysutils/xosview/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 00:31:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA24004 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:31:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23999; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:31:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@FreeBSD.org) From: Satoshi Asami Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA09935; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:31:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:31:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812270831.AAA09935@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/www/netscape45-communicator Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk asami 1998/12/27 00:31:13 PST Modified files: www/netscape45-communicator Makefile Log: Answer third question of Fortify. Revision Changes Path 1.35 +2 -2 ports/www/netscape45-communicator/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 00:40:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA24869 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:40:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA24862; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:40:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA23181; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:10:17 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id TAA28413; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:10:18 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981227191018.J12346@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:10:18 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: "David E. O'Brien" , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/systat vmstat.c References: <199812270815.AAA09536@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199812270815.AAA09536@freefall.freebsd.org>; from David E. O'Brien on Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 12:15:37AM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sunday, 27 December 1998 at 0:15:37 -0800, David E. O'Brien wrote: > obrien 1998/12/27 00:15:37 PST > > Modified files: > usr.bin/systat vmstat.c > Log: > Don't waste precious space on showing the performance of fdX. > (can get old behavior with -DWANT_FD) Not that I'll cry any tears over floppies, but I'd guess that those who do would also be upset to have to set special flags. Wouldn't it be easier to add a flag, say, -reallyusethisoldjunk. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 00:51:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25424 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25417; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:51:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA04807; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:51:28 +1100 Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:51:28 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199812270851.TAA04807@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@lemis.com, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/systat vmstat.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >> Modified files: >> usr.bin/systat vmstat.c >> Log: >> Don't waste precious space on showing the performance of fdX. >> (can get old behavior with -DWANT_FD) > >Not that I'll cry any tears over floppies, but I'd guess that those >who do would also be upset to have to set special flags. Wouldn't it >be easier to add a flag, say, -reallyusethisoldjunk. People would be upset by having to set a special flag like that :-). The default should be to sort floppies to the end of the list so that they fall of the end of the display before more important devices. Then there should be something like iostat(8)'s devices list, but actually working (iostat da0 wd0 disorders the devices to wd0 da0 here). Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 01:10:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA26128 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 01:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA26080; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 01:09:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@FreeBSD.org) From: Satoshi Asami Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA12707; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 01:09:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 01:09:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812270909.BAA12707@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/japanese/netscape4-communicator Makefile ports/japanese/netscape45-communicator Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk asami 1998/12/27 01:09:50 PST Modified files: japanese/netscape4-communicator Makefile japanese/netscape45-communicator Makefile Log: Depend on the right port under www. Revision Changes Path 1.12 +3 -2 ports/japanese/netscape4-communicator/Makefile 1.2 +2 -2 ports/japanese/netscape45-communicator/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 03:18:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06242 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 03:18:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06237; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 03:18:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA24252; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 03:18:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 03:18:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271118.DAA24252@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/docproj translations.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wosch 1998/12/27 03:18:03 PST Modified files: en/docproj translations.sgml Log: Added link to german handbook. Revision Changes Path 1.13 +3 -3 www/en/docproj/translations.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 03:23:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06857 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 03:23:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06836; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 03:23:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@FreeBSD.org) From: Luigi Rizzo Received: (from luigi@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA24947; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 03:23:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 03:23:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271123.DAA24947@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sbin/ipfw ipfw.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk luigi 1998/12/27 03:23:06 PST Modified files: sbin/ipfw ipfw.c Log: Remove coredump when running "ipfw pipe" without more arguments. PR: 8937 Revision Changes Path 1.64 +4 -1 src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 04:01:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13296 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:01:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA13275; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:01:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joerg@FreeBSD.org) From: Joerg Wunsch Received: (from joerg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA01533; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:01:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:01:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271201.EAA01533@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/pw README Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk joerg 1998/12/27 04:01:07 PST Modified files: usr.sbin/pw README Log: Fix the spelling of `FreeBSD'. Submitted by: Peter Philipp Revision Changes Path 1.4 +2 -2 src/usr.sbin/pw/README To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 04:33:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA17813 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:33:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA17798 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:33:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA08866; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:22:58 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199812271022.LAA08866@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Who takes care of Voxware PR's ? To: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:22:57 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, I have been scanning the PR database trying to grab/close a few ones (especially those related to audio). The following ones are related to the Voxware driver, and i am unable to work on them. Is there someone willing to take care of the following PRs ? 2471, 3054, 4505, 6096, 6247, 7095, 8925, 9102 thanks luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO . EMAIL: luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione HTTP://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 04:36:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA18285 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:36:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA18246; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:35:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA06559; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:35:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:35:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271235.EAA06559@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf LINT src/sys/i386/isa sio.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/27 04:35:48 PST Modified files: sys/i386/conf LINT sys/i386/isa sio.c Log: Pre 3.0 branch cleanup casualty #1: DSI_SOFT_MODEM support. Revision Changes Path 1.512 +1 -2 src/sys/i386/conf/LINT 1.220 +1 -158 src/sys/i386/isa/sio.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 04:40:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA18778 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:40:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA18773; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:40:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA07340; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:40:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:40:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271240.EAA07340@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa b004.c b004.h src/sys/i386/conf LINT files.i386 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/27 04:40:08 PST Modified files: sys/i386/conf LINT files.i386 Removed files: sys/i386/isa b004.c b004.h Log: Pre 3.0 branch cleanup casualty #2: Transputer support Revision Changes Path 1.513 +1 -2 src/sys/i386/conf/LINT 1.208 +1 -2 src/sys/i386/conf/files.i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 04:45:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA19382 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:45:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA19377; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:45:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA08061; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:44:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:44:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271244.EAA08061@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile eg.4 src/sys/i386/conf LINT files.i386 src/sys/i386/isa if_eg.c if_egreg.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/27 04:44:57 PST Modified files: share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile sys/i386/conf LINT files.i386 Removed files: share/man/man4/man4.i386 eg.4 sys/i386/isa if_eg.c if_egreg.h Log: Pre 3.0 branch cleanup casualty #3: 3c505 ethernet support Revision Changes Path 1.90 +2 -3 src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/Makefile 1.514 +1 -2 src/sys/i386/conf/LINT 1.209 +1 -2 src/sys/i386/conf/files.i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 04:52:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA20064 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:52:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA20058; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:52:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA09569; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:52:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:52:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271252.EAA09569@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile pcvt.4 src/sys/i386/isa/pcvt pcvt_conf.h pcvt_drv.c pcvt_ext.c pcvt_hdr.h pcvt_kbd.c pcvt_kbd.h pcvt_out.c pcvt_sup.c pcvt_tbl.h pcvt_vtf.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT files.i386 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/27 04:52:46 PST Modified files: share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT files.i386 Removed files: share/man/man4/man4.i386 pcvt.4 sys/i386/isa/pcvt pcvt_conf.h pcvt_drv.c pcvt_ext.c pcvt_hdr.h pcvt_kbd.c pcvt_kbd.h pcvt_out.c pcvt_sup.c pcvt_tbl.h pcvt_vtf.c Log: Pre 3.0 branch cleanup casualty #4: pcvt Revision Changes Path 1.91 +2 -3 src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/Makefile 1.136 +1 -8 src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC 1.515 +1 -8 src/sys/i386/conf/LINT 1.210 +1 -7 src/sys/i386/conf/files.i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 05:06:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA21395 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:06:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA21389; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:06:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA11649; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:06:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:06:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271306.FAA11649@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile nca.4 sea.4 uha.4 src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT files.i386 src/sys/i386/isa ncr5380.c seagate.c ultra14f.c wd7000.c src/sys/i386/isa/ic ncr53400.h ncr5380.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/27 05:06:44 PST Modified files: share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT files.i386 Removed files: share/man/man4/man4.i386 nca.4 sea.4 uha.4 sys/i386/isa ncr5380.c seagate.c ultra14f.c wd7000.c sys/i386/isa/ic ncr53400.h ncr5380.h Log: Pre 3.0 branch cleanup casualty #5: nca, sea, wds, uha No CAM drivers available. If somebody CAMifies one of these, they will be welcome back in the tree Revision Changes Path 1.92 +4 -7 src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/Makefile 1.137 +1 -2 src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC 1.516 +2 -14 src/sys/i386/conf/LINT 1.211 +1 -5 src/sys/i386/conf/files.i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 05:13:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA21783 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:13:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA21778; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:13:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA12384; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:12:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:12:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271312.FAA12384@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC GENERICupgrade SMP-GENERIC Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/27 05:12:59 PST Modified files: sys/i386/conf GENERIC Removed files: sys/i386/conf GENERICupgrade SMP-GENERIC Log: Add commented out SMP stuff in GENERIC, remove stale configs. Revision Changes Path 1.138 +10 -1 src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 05:13:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA22115 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:13:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA22107; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:13:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA12496; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:13:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:13:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271313.FAA12496@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf PCCARD Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/27 05:13:41 PST Removed files: sys/i386/conf PCCARD Log: Delete stale config. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 05:30:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA23026 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:30:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA23021; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:30:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from se@FreeBSD.org) From: Stefan Esser Received: (from se@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA15572; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:30:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:30:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271330.FAA15572@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/emulators/wine Makefile ports/emulators/wine/files md5 bitops.h ports/emulators/wine/patches patch-ax patch-ay patch-ar patch-aw Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk se 1998/12/27 05:30:09 PST Modified files: emulators/wine Makefile emulators/wine/files md5 emulators/wine/patches patch-ar patch-aw Added files: emulators/wine/patches patch-ax patch-ay Removed files: emulators/wine/files bitops.h Log: Upgrade to 981211 version of Wine. Revision Changes Path 1.66 +3 -7 ports/emulators/wine/Makefile 1.42 +1 -1 ports/emulators/wine/files/md5 1.3 +10 -19 ports/emulators/wine/patches/patch-ar 1.2 +17 -15 ports/emulators/wine/patches/patch-aw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 05:33:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA23303 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:33:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA23296 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:33:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.57.198]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5F8A; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:33:25 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199812271022.LAA08866@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:40:08 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Luigi Rizzo Subject: RE: Who takes care of Voxware PR's ? Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 27-Dec-98 Luigi Rizzo wrote: > I have been scanning the PR database trying to grab/close a few ones > (especially those related to audio). > > The following ones are related to the Voxware driver, and i am unable > to work on them. Is there someone willing to take care of the following > PRs ? Isn't the VoxWare driver left to die in 3.0+ ? I was told that it was being phased out in preference to yer own pcm stuff. In my opinion it wouldn't justify to patch them up while a few weeks later everything is going to pcm anyways. Just my 0.02 guilders --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Life is the only Pain asmodai(at)wxs.nl we endeavour... Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 05:36:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA23847 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:36:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA23842; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:36:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA16687; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:36:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:36:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271336.FAA16687@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf options.i386 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/27 05:36:44 PST Modified files: sys/i386/conf options.i386 Log: forgot to remote options here. Revision Changes Path 1.97 +1 -17 src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 05:39:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA23968 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:39:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA23963 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:39:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id MAA09111; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:29:48 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199812271129.MAA09111@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Who takes care of Voxware PR's ? To: asmodai@wxs.nl (Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:29:47 +0100 (MET) Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai" at Dec 27, 98 02:39:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > The following ones are related to the Voxware driver, and i am unable > > to work on them. Is there someone willing to take care of the following > > PRs ? > > Isn't the VoxWare driver left to die in 3.0+ ? there are a few things that voxware claims to do (e.g. wavetable or midi) and pcm does not. luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 05:41:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA24165 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:41:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA24159; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:41:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA17237; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:40:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:40:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271340.FAA17237@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386 fdc.4 src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT files.i386 src/sys/i386/isa fd.c ft.c ftreg.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/27 05:40:58 PST Modified files: share/man/man4/man4.i386 fdc.4 sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT files.i386 sys/i386/isa fd.c Removed files: sys/i386/isa ft.c ftreg.h Log: Pre 3.0 branch cleanup casualty #6: ft Revision Changes Path 1.11 +1 -9 src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/fdc.4 1.139 +1 -5 src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC 1.517 +1 -3 src/sys/i386/conf/LINT 1.212 +1 -2 src/sys/i386/conf/files.i386 1.130 +2 -82 src/sys/i386/isa/fd.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 05:56:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA25074 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:56:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA25060; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:55:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.org) From: Søren Schmidt Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA18871; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:55:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:55:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271355.FAA18871@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa wcd.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT devices.i386 files.i386 majors.i386 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sos 1998/12/27 05:55:49 PST Modified files: sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT devices.i386 files.i386 majors.i386 Removed files: sys/i386/isa wcd.c Log: Pre 3.0 branch cleanup sos#1: wcd Superceded by acd driver... Revision Changes Path 1.140 +2 -2 src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC 1.518 +1 -5 src/sys/i386/conf/LINT 1.15 +2 -2 src/sys/i386/conf/devices.i386 1.213 +1 -2 src/sys/i386/conf/files.i386 1.56 +2 -2 src/sys/i386/conf/majors.i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 06:00:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25379 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:00:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25374; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:00:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.org) From: Søren Schmidt Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id GAA19438; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:00:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:00:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271400.GAA19438@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf majors.i386 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sos 1998/12/27 06:00:11 PST Modified files: sys/i386/conf majors.i386 Log: Pre 3.0 branch cleanup sos#1: wcd Superceded by acd driver... Revision Changes Path 1.57 +2 -2 src/sys/i386/conf/majors.i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 06:21:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26935 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:21:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26930; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:21:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.org) From: Søren Schmidt Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id GAA20307; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:21:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:21:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271421.GAA20307@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf LINT files.i386 options.i386 src/sys/i386/include ultrasound.h src/sys/i386/isa/sound CHANGELOG COPYING README README.FREEBSD Readme Readme.aedsp16 Readme.cards Readme.modules Readme.v30 ad1848.c ad1848_mixer.h adlib_card.c ... Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sos 1998/12/27 06:21:37 PST Modified files: sys/i386/conf LINT files.i386 options.i386 Removed files: sys/i386/include ultrasound.h sys/i386/isa/sound CHANGELOG COPYING README README.FREEBSD Readme Readme.aedsp16 Readme.cards Readme.modules Readme.v30 ad1848.c ad1848_mixer.h adlib_card.c aedsp16.c alaw.h audio.c coproc.h cs4232.c dev_table.c dev_table.h dmabuf.c finetune.h gus_card.c gus_hw.h gus_linearvol.h gus_midi.c gus_vol.c gus_wave.c hex2hex.h ics2101.c iwdefs.h local.h mad16.c mad16.h mad16_sb_midi.c maui.c midi_ctrl.h midi_synth.c midi_synth.h midibuf.c mmap_test.c mpu401.c opl3.c opl3.h os.h pas2_card.c pas2_midi.c pas2_mixer.c pas2_pcm.c pas_defs.h pas_hw.h patmgr.c pcm86.c pss.c pss.h sb16_dsp.c sb16_midi.c sb_card.c sb_defs.h sb_dsp.c sb_midi.c sb_mixer.c sb_mixer.h sbcard.h sequencer.c sound.doc sound_calls.h sound_config.h sound_pnp.c sound_switch.c sound_timer.c soundcard.c soundvers.h sscape.c sys_timer.c trix.c trix_boot.h tuning.h uart6850.c ulaw.h ultrasound.h Log: Pre 3.0 branch cleanup sos#2: sound Superceded by the snd driver... Revision Changes Path 1.519 +2 -64 src/sys/i386/conf/LINT 1.214 +1 -63 src/sys/i386/conf/files.i386 1.98 +1 -6 src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 06:23:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27238 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:23:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA27227; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:23:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id AAA02310; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:52:44 +1030 (CST) Received: from localhost by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA08764; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:52:44 +1030 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:52:44 +1030 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa wcd.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT devices.i386 files.i386 majors.i386 In-Reply-To: <199812271355.FAA18871@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id GAB27234 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Søren Schmidt wrote: > sos 1998/12/27 05:55:49 PST > > Modified files: > sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT devices.i386 files.i386 > majors.i386 > Removed files: > sys/i386/isa wcd.c > Log: > Pre 3.0 branch cleanup sos#1: wcd > > Superceded by acd driver... I thought acd was meant to be a temporary hack so people could use CD-RW drives..if we're retiring wcd for good, couldn't the current acd code just take the place of the old code and retain the wcd name? Seems unneccessary to force people to replace "wcd0" with "acd0" in their kernel configs.. Kris ----- (ASP) Microsoft Corporation (MSFT) announced today that the release of its productivity suite, Office 2000, will be delayed until the first quarter of 1901. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 06:30:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27771 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:30:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.42.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA27703; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:29:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA11942; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:29:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199812271429.PAA11942@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa wcd.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT devices.i386 files.i386 majors.i386 In-Reply-To: from Kris Kennaway at "Dec 28, 1998 0:52:44 am" To: kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au (Kris Kennaway) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:29:28 +0100 (CET) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk It seems Kris Kennaway wrote: >I thought acd was meant to be a temporary hack so people could use CD-RW >drives..if we're retiring wcd for good, couldn't the current acd code just >take the place of the old code and retain the wcd name? Seems unneccessary to >force people to replace "wcd0" with "acd0" in their kernel configs.. No, the acd driver is meant to take over, it provides everything that wcd does and then some. The wst.c (atapi tape driver) will also change name soon to ast etc, in order to make names etc a little more logical. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@freebsd.org) FreeBSD Core Team member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 06:30:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27792 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:30:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA27766; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:30:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA07850; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:29:41 -0800 (PST) To: Kris Kennaway cc: =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa wcd.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT devices.i386 files.i386 majors.i386 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:52:44 +1030." Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:29:40 -0800 Message-ID: <7846.914768980@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I thought acd was meant to be a temporary hack so people could use CD-RW > drives..if we're retiring wcd for good, couldn't the current acd code just > take the place of the old code and retain the wcd name? Seems unneccessary to > force people to replace "wcd0" with "acd0" in their kernel configs.. I was sort of wondering the same thing myself. This one wasn't on the list we discussed and took me (and I suspect most of core) by surprise. :-( I also thought we were going to wait on the sound issue until we'd clarified how MIDI support would be brought over, but "oh well" - at least you can never, ever complain about the quickcam driver again. You just lost that privilege forever. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 06:30:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27840 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:30:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA27827; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:30:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA07866; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:30:20 -0800 (PST) To: Kris Kennaway cc: =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa wcd.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT devices.i386 files.i386 majors.i386 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:52:44 +1030." Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:30:19 -0800 Message-ID: <7863.914769019@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk P.S. By "you" in the previous message referring to acd vs wcd, I meant of course Soren, not Kris. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 06:51:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA29741 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:51:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA29727; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:51:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id BAA02478; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 01:20:57 +1030 (CST) Received: from localhost by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA15376; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 01:20:57 +1030 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 01:20:56 +1030 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa wcd.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT devices.i386 files.i386 majors.i386 In-Reply-To: <199812271429.PAA11942@freebsd.dk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id GAB29732 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Søren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Kris Kennaway wrote: > >I thought acd was meant to be a temporary hack so people could use CD-RW > >drives..if we're retiring wcd for good, couldn't the current acd code just > >take the place of the old code and retain the wcd name? Seems unneccessary to > >force people to replace "wcd0" with "acd0" in their kernel configs.. > > No, the acd driver is meant to take over, it provides everything > that wcd does and then some. > The wst.c (atapi tape driver) will also change name soon to ast > etc, in order to make names etc a little more logical. Hrm, how well-tested has this been? I hadn't been using the new driver because of: 1.1 Tue Sep 8 20:57:47 1998 UTC by sos Add new atapi-cd driver that supports atapi CD-R/RW drives. This is only a stop-gab solution to get atapi burner support into 3.0. I don't know how much the code changed before you imported it into the tre, but I was able to panic my machine using the previous snapshot of the code you advertised on -hackers earlier in the year. I wonder whether this isn't opening the door for loads of bug reports after 3.0.1-release. Kris ----- (ASP) Microsoft Corporation (MSFT) announced today that the release of its productivity suite, Office 2000, will be delayed until the first quarter of 1901. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 07:04:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00945 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:04:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00940; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:04:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA14269; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:04:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:04:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271504.HAA14269@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/games/adventure Makefile src/games/hack Makefile src/lib/libmytinfo Makefile src/lib/libpcap Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/27 07:04:34 PST Modified files: games/adventure Makefile games/hack Makefile lib/libmytinfo Makefile lib/libpcap Makefile Log: Fixed CLEANFILES. Revision Changes Path 1.7 +1 -1 src/games/adventure/Makefile 1.18 +1 -1 src/games/hack/Makefile 1.16 +3 -3 src/lib/libmytinfo/Makefile 1.22 +2 -2 src/lib/libpcap/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 07:13:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01603 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:13:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.42.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01597; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:13:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA12165; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:13:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199812271513.QAA12165@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa wcd.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT devices.i386 files.i386 majors.i386 In-Reply-To: from Kris Kennaway at "Dec 28, 1998 1:20:56 am" To: kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au (Kris Kennaway) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:13:01 +0100 (CET) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk It seems Kris Kennaway wrote: >Hrm, how well-tested has this been? I hadn't been using the new driver because >of: > >1.1 Tue Sep 8 20:57:47 1998 UTC by sos What CVS repository do you use, mine says: $Id: atapi-cd.c,v 1.6 1998/12/07 21:58:20 archie Exp $ >I don't know how much the code changed before you imported it into the tre, >but I was able to panic my machine using the previous snapshot of the code you >advertised on -hackers earlier in the year. It has bee tested pretty well, and besides its not that different from the old one, it just add more functionality. >I wonder whether this isn't opening the door for loads of bug reports after >3.0.1-release. Well, it wont be the only item in that department :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@freebsd.org) FreeBSD Core Team member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 07:24:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02917 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:24:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02912; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:24:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA14818; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:24:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:24:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271524.HAA14818@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/lib/csu/i386 Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/27 07:24:21 PST Modified files: lib/csu/i386 Makefile Log: Avoid using ld -O (as in bsd.lib.mk). Fixed `make cleandepend'. The default is null because SRCS is null. Revision Changes Path 1.39 +16 -7 src/lib/csu/i386/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 07:35:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03545 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:35:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03509; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:34:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id CAA31689; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:04:35 +1030 (CST) Received: from localhost by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA10862; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:04:35 +1030 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:04:35 +1030 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa wcd.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT devices.i386 files.i386 majors.i386 In-Reply-To: <199812271513.QAA12165@freebsd.dk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id HAB03517 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Søren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Kris Kennaway wrote: > >Hrm, how well-tested has this been? I hadn't been using the new driver because > >of: > > > >1.1 Tue Sep 8 20:57:47 1998 UTC by sos > > What CVS repository do you use, mine says: > > $Id: atapi-cd.c,v 1.6 1998/12/07 21:58:20 archie Exp $ The above was from the cvsweb output. My version of atapi-cd is indeed the same as yours - I was just quoting your original commit message, which seems to support my understanding that this was not originally intended as a replacement. If any announcement of the changeover was made, I didn't see it (and I usually read mailing lists pretty closely). All this is just trying to say that many people may not have made the change to your new driver yet, because they didn't realise it was "the future". There may be a lot of problems which haven't shown up so far simply because of lack of testing in varied environments. > >I don't know how much the code changed before you imported it into the tre, > >but I was able to panic my machine using the previous snapshot of the code you > >advertised on -hackers earlier in the year. > > It has bee tested pretty well, and besides its not that different from > the old one, it just add more functionality. It still panicked me :) I'll test and see if I can get it to do it again.. > >I wonder whether this isn't opening the door for loads of bug reports after > >3.0.1-release. > > Well, it wont be the only item in that department :) Assuredly not, but I don't really see the wisdom in cutting to a new driver version in the first "stable" 3.0 release, which may have unknown problems because no-one (if I'm correct in the above) knew it was the driver they should have been stress-testing :-) I wonder how many other people were still (like me) using wcd because they didn't know better.. Kris ----- productivity suite, Office 2000, will be delayed until the first quarter of 1901. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 07:47:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04414 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:47:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04409; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:47:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA16795; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:47:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:47:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271547.HAA16795@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/lib/csu/i386 crt0.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/27 07:47:16 PST Modified files: lib/csu/i386 crt0.c Log: Fixed type mismatches in args to __syscall(). One for mmap() broke on i386's with 64-bit longs -- the padding between mmap()'s 5th and 6th is an int, not a long. The other mismatches were benign. Revision Changes Path 1.35 +5 -5 src/lib/csu/i386/crt0.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 07:53:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05048 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:53:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.42.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05010; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 07:53:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA12874; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:52:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199812271552.QAA12874@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa wcd.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT devices.i386 files.i386 majors.i386 In-Reply-To: from Kris Kennaway at "Dec 28, 1998 2: 4:35 am" To: kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au (Kris Kennaway) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:52:42 +0100 (CET) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk It seems Kris Kennaway wrote: >Assuredly not, but I don't really see the wisdom in cutting to a new driver >version in the first "stable" 3.0 release, which may have unknown problems >because no-one (if I'm correct in the above) knew it was the driver they >should have been stress-testing :-) I wonder how many other people were still >(like me) using wcd because they didn't know better.. So now it will be stress tested... Let me know if you have problems.. (I know of a few with sub standard burners, fixes coming up soon) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@freebsd.org) FreeBSD Core Team member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 08:12:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06645 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:12:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06637; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:12:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from flathill@FreeBSD.org) From: Seiichirou Hiraoka Received: (from flathill@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA20264; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:12:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:12:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271612.IAA20264@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/emulators/xsystem35 Makefile ports/emulators/xsystem35/files md5 ports/emulators/xsystem35/patches patch-aa ports/emulators/xsystem35/pkg PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk flathill 1998/12/27 08:12:03 PST Modified files: emulators/xsystem35 Makefile emulators/xsystem35/files md5 emulators/xsystem35/patches patch-aa emulators/xsystem35/pkg PLIST Log: Update to xsystem-3.5-19981227 Revision Changes Path 1.7 +15 -12 ports/emulators/xsystem35/Makefile 1.4 +1 -2 ports/emulators/xsystem35/files/md5 1.3 +8 -8 ports/emulators/xsystem35/patches/patch-aa 1.3 +9 -0 ports/emulators/xsystem35/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 08:43:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09613 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:43:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09605; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:43:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA22265; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:43:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:43:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271643.IAA22265@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin Makefile src/usr.sbin/pcvt Makefile Makefile.inc src/usr.sbin/pcvt/Misc Makefile Makefile.inc README.FIRST src/usr.sbin/pcvt/Misc/Doc Acknowledgements Bibliography BugList ChangeLog CharGen Charsets EscapeSequences ... Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/27 08:43:42 PST Modified files: usr.sbin Makefile Removed files: usr.sbin/pcvt Makefile Makefile.inc usr.sbin/pcvt/Misc Makefile Makefile.inc README.FIRST usr.sbin/pcvt/Misc/Doc Acknowledgements Bibliography BugList ChangeLog CharGen Charsets EscapeSequences Keyboard.HP Keyboard.VT Makefile Manifest NotesAndHints TestedHardware ToDo usr.sbin/pcvt/Misc/Etc Makefile Termcap Terminfo pcvt.el rc.local uemacs.tar.Z.uu xmodmap-german usr.sbin/pcvt/cursor Makefile cursor.1 cursor.c usr.sbin/pcvt/demo Makefile README chardemo.vt.gz.uu colors.vt.gz.uu cowscene.vt.gz.uu outerlimit.vt.gz.uu playvt.c sgr.vt.gz.uu twzone.vt.gz.uu xmas.vt.gz.uu usr.sbin/pcvt/fed Makefile edit.c fed.c fed.h misc.c select.c usr.sbin/pcvt/fontedit Makefile README fontedit.1 fontedit.c usr.sbin/pcvt/fonts COPYRIGHT Makefile vt100pc.814.uu vt100sg.814.uu vt220h.808.uu vt220h.810.uu vt220h.814.uu vt220h.816.uu vt220l.808.uu vt220l.810.uu vt220l.814.uu vt220l.816.uu usr.sbin/pcvt/ispcvt Makefile ispcvt.8 ispcvt.c usr.sbin/pcvt/kbdio Makefile kbdio.y lex.l usr.sbin/pcvt/kcon Makefile kcon.1 kcon.c usr.sbin/pcvt/keycap Makefile keycap.3 keycap.c keycap.h keycap.src usr.sbin/pcvt/keycap/man5 keycap.5 usr.sbin/pcvt/loadfont Makefile loadfont.1 loadfont.c usr.sbin/pcvt/mcon Makefile mcon.1 mcon.c usr.sbin/pcvt/scon Makefile scon.1 scon.c usr.sbin/pcvt/set2061 CAUTION ICD2061Aalt.c Makefile README compiler.h main.c usr.sbin/pcvt/userkeys Makefile vt220keys.1 vt220keys.c usr.sbin/pcvt/vgaio CAUTION Makefile lex.l vgaio.8 vgaio.h vgaio.y usr.sbin/pcvt/vttest Makefile README esc.c header.h main.c vttest.1 sys/i386/include pcvt_ioctl.h Log: follow up to: Pre 3.0 branch cleanup casualty #4: pcvt Revision Changes Path 1.139 +1 -2 src/usr.sbin/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 08:44:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09699 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:44:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09694; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:44:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA22299; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:44:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:44:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271644.IAA22299@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/etc/mtree BSD.usr.dist Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/27 08:44:24 PST Modified files: etc/mtree BSD.usr.dist Log: follow up to: Pre 3.0 branch cleanup casualty #4: pcvt Revision Changes Path 1.142 +1 -9 src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 08:48:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09998 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:48:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (st-lcremean.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09980 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:47:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id LAA97079; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:47:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19981227114719.A97019@tidalwave.net> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:47:19 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: Luigi Rizzo , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who takes care of Voxware PR's ? Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <199812271022.LAA08866@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199812271022.LAA08866@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>; from Luigi Rizzo on Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 11:22:57AM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 11:22:57AM +0100, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > Hi, > > I have been scanning the PR database trying to grab/close a few ones > (especially those related to audio). > > The following ones are related to the Voxware driver, and i am unable > to work on them. Is there someone willing to take care of the following > PRs ? > > 2471, 3054, 4505, 6096, 6247, 7095, 8925, 9102 Some notes on 3054 (which I submitted): * It applies to the OPL3 note code, which I'd think is fairly obsolete now... * The patch is wrong. note_num += 2 needs to be note_num -= 2. * I think this bug was fixed in Voxware 3.5 anyway, but I don't know for sure. In any case, I've not had problems since I started using the AWE32 as my synth. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 08:48:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10034 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:48:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10029; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:48:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA14710; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdd14707; Sun Dec 27 16:47:10 1998 Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:47:08 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile pcvt.4 src/sys/i386/isa/pcvt pcvt_conf.h pcvt_drv.c pcvt_ext.c pcvt_hdr.h pcvt_kbd.c pcvt_kbd.h pcvt_out.c pcvt_sup.c pcvt_tbl.h pcvt_vtf.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT files.i386 In-Reply-To: <199812271252.EAA09569@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk WHAT?! Poul, I know that there is work afoot to make a vt emulator for syscons but isn't this a bit premature? We fro example are using pcvt for our development machines and I know that others are using it.. (I haven't compiled a NEW development machine for a while so I can't guarantee that it compiles TODAY, but it can;t be too broken because it did work as of a few weeks ago..) How much discussion went into this? I do know that sometimes a rutheless cleanout can be a good idea but some of the things you're cleaning out might be discussed a bit more.. julian On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > phk 1998/12/27 04:52:46 PST > > Modified files: > share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile > sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT files.i386 > Removed files: > share/man/man4/man4.i386 pcvt.4 > sys/i386/isa/pcvt pcvt_conf.h pcvt_drv.c pcvt_ext.c > pcvt_hdr.h pcvt_kbd.c pcvt_kbd.h > pcvt_out.c pcvt_sup.c pcvt_tbl.h > pcvt_vtf.c > Log: > Pre 3.0 branch cleanup casualty #4: pcvt > > Revision Changes Path > 1.91 +2 -3 src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/Makefile > 1.136 +1 -8 src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC > 1.515 +1 -8 src/sys/i386/conf/LINT > 1.210 +1 -7 src/sys/i386/conf/files.i386 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 08:51:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10344 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:51:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10339; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:51:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA68045; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:50:59 +0100 (CET) To: Julian Elischer cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile pcvt.4 src/sys/i386/isa/pcvt pcvt_conf.h pcvt_drv.c pcvt_ext.c pcvt_hdr.h pcvt_kbd.c pcvt_kbd.h pcvt_out.c pcvt_sup.c pcvt_tbl.h pcvt_vtf.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT files.i386 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:47:08 PST." Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:50:59 +0100 Message-ID: <68043.914777459@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message , Jul ian Elischer writes: >Poul, I know that there is work afoot to make a vt emulator for syscons >but isn't this a bit premature? No, if anything it should have been done long time ago, because the existence of PCVT has put a damper on the effort to make a VT emulation for syscons. >We fro example are using pcvt for our development machines and I know >that others are using it.. You have CVS, pull it out of the attic. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 08:53:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10640 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:53:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10635; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:53:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA22584; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:52:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:52:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271652.IAA22584@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/gnu/lib/libgmp Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/27 08:52:56 PST Modified files: gnu/lib/libgmp Makefile Log: Removed rotten, unused implicit rules. The ld -O in one might have been harmful if it were used. Revision Changes Path 1.21 +1 -14 src/gnu/lib/libgmp/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 09:12:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12451 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:12:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12446; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:12:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.org) From: Søren Schmidt Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA23264; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:12:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:12:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271712.JAA23264@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa atapi.c atapi.h src/sys/i386/isa/snd ulaw.h dmabuf.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sos 1998/12/27 09:12:02 PST Modified files: sys/i386/isa atapi.c atapi.h sys/i386/isa/snd dmabuf.c Added files: sys/i386/isa/snd ulaw.h Log: Fix breakage by cleanup. Revision Changes Path 1.30 +3 -13 src/sys/i386/isa/atapi.c 1.16 +2 -2 src/sys/i386/isa/atapi.h 1.10 +1 -1 src/sys/i386/isa/snd/dmabuf.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 09:25:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13424 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:25:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13419; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:25:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA24443; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:25:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:25:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271725.JAA24443@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/gnu/lib/libstdc++ Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/27 09:25:27 PST Modified files: gnu/lib/libstdc++ Makefile Log: Avoid using `ld -O' (as in bsd.lib.mk). `ld -O' seems to have caused only non-problems for elf -- `ld -elf -O foo.tmp -x -r foo' apparently puts the result in a.out so it has essentially no effect. Revision Changes Path 1.11 +15 -7 src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 09:30:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14102 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:30:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14097; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:30:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from flathill@FreeBSD.org) From: Seiichirou Hiraoka Received: (from flathill@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA24729; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:30:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:30:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271730.JAA24729@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/lang/erlang Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk flathill 1998/12/27 09:30:01 PST Modified files: lang/erlang Makefile Log: Fix as BROKEN. Add MASTER_SITES Revision Changes Path 1.3 +3 -4 ports/lang/erlang/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 09:52:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16110 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:52:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16105; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:52:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA27277; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:52:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:52:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271752.JAA27277@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/patches patch-aa Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/27 09:52:22 PST Modified files: x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/patches patch-aa Log: Fix little typo error. Remind by: nectar Revision Changes Path 1.18 +1 -1 ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/patches/patch-aa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 09:55:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16546 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:55:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16537; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:55:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA27573; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:55:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:55:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271755.JAA27573@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/misc/comconsole Makefile ports/misc/comconsole/files md5 ports/misc/comconsole/pkg COMMENT DEINSTALL DESCR INSTALL PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/27 09:55:03 PST Removed files: misc/comconsole Makefile misc/comconsole/files md5 misc/comconsole/pkg COMMENT DEINSTALL DESCR INSTALL PLIST Log: Move into "sysutils" category. Submitted by: obrien@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 09:59:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16947 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:59:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16942; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:59:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA28011; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:59:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:59:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271759.JAA28011@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/27 09:59:17 PST Modified files: . modules Log: Remove comconsole. Revision Changes Path 1.2639 +1 -2 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 09:59:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17151 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:59:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17146; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:59:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA28095; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:59:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:59:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271759.JAA28095@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/systat systat.1 vmstat.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/27 09:59:42 PST Modified files: usr.bin/systat systat.1 vmstat.c Log: Turn the compile time option into a run-time option. You can now use the `want_fd' command in the vmstat display. Suggested by: grog Revision Changes Path 1.15 +2 -0 src/usr.bin/systat/systat.1 1.31 +8 -7 src/usr.bin/systat/vmstat.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 10:02:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17640 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:02:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17633; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:02:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (IDENT:WHAT_THE_HELL_YOU_LOOKING_AT_@d60-077.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.77]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA23903; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:02:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA13288; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:02:12 GMT (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:02:12 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Bruce Evans Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/systat vmstat.c Message-ID: <19981227100212.A12867@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199812270851.TAA04807@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199812270851.TAA04807@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans on Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 07:51:28PM +1100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > The default should be to sort floppies to the end of the list so that > they fall of the end of the display before more important devices. 100% Agreed. But systat's vmstat mode walks some kernel structures that are in probe order. To "sort" in the preferred order was more than I wanted to get into. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 10:03:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17681 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:03:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17676; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:03:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA28598; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:03:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:03:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271803.KAA28598@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/27 10:03:25 PST Modified files: . modules Log: comconsole --> ports/sysutils/comconsole Revision Changes Path 1.2640 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 10:03:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17704 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:03:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17697; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:03:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@FreeBSD.org) From: Doug Rabson Received: (from dfr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA28679; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:03:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:03:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271803.KAA28679@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/pci pcibus.c src/sys/kern kern_exec.c kern_sysctl.c subr_devstat.c src/sys/sys sysctl.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dfr 1998/12/27 10:03:29 PST Modified files: sys/alpha/pci pcibus.c sys/kern kern_exec.c kern_sysctl.c subr_devstat.c sys/sys sysctl.h Log: Fix some 64bit truncation problems which crept into SYSCTL_LONG() with the last cleanup. Since the oid_arg2 field of struct sysctl_oid is not wide enough to hold a long, the SYSCTL_LONG() macro has been modified to only support exporting long variables by pointer instead of by value. Reviewed by: bde Revision Changes Path 1.8 +5 -8 src/sys/alpha/pci/pcibus.c 1.91 +6 -3 src/sys/kern/kern_exec.c 1.81 +4 -34 src/sys/kern/kern_sysctl.c 1.8 +2 -2 src/sys/kern/subr_devstat.c 1.68 +4 -4 src/sys/sys/sysctl.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 10:04:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17830 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:04:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17824; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:04:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA28842; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:04:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:04:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271804.KAA28842@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/sysutils/comconsole - Imported sources Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/27 10:04:33 PST ports/sysutils/comconsole - Imported sources Update of /home/ncvs/ports/sysutils/comconsole In directory freefall.freebsd.org:/c/users/sada/work/ports/sysutils/comconsole Log Message: Moved from `misc' category. -- This package will setup your PC to use serial port COM1 as its console device. Note that this is a special package and you should pkg_add this on a newly installed system. This is intended to install from installer floppy disk on a system without its own display nor keyboard. Status: Vendor Tag: SADA Release Tags: comconsole_0_1 I ports/sysutils/comconsole/CVS N ports/sysutils/comconsole/Makefile N ports/sysutils/comconsole/files/md5 N ports/sysutils/comconsole/pkg/COMMENT N ports/sysutils/comconsole/pkg/DEINSTALL N ports/sysutils/comconsole/pkg/DESCR N ports/sysutils/comconsole/pkg/INSTALL N ports/sysutils/comconsole/pkg/PLIST No conflicts created by this import To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 10:05:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17916 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:05:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17908; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:05:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA29014; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:05:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:05:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271805.KAA29014@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/misc Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/27 10:05:36 PST Modified files: misc Makefile Log: Remove comconsole. Revision Changes Path 1.181 +1 -2 ports/misc/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 10:07:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18062 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:07:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18056; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:07:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA29195; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:06:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:06:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271806.KAA29195@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/sysutils Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/27 10:06:51 PST Modified files: sysutils Makefile Log: Activate comconsole. Revision Changes Path 1.56 +2 -1 ports/sysutils/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 10:14:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18943 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:14:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18934; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:14:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (IDENT:WHAT_THE_HELL_YOU_LOOKING_AT_@d60-077.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.77]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA23951; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:14:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA13316; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:14:14 GMT (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:14:14 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Julian Elischer , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile pcvt.4 src/sys/i386/isa/pcvt pcvt_conf.h pcvt_drv.c pcvt_ext.c pcvt_hdr.h pcvt_kbd.c pcvt_kbd.h pcvt_out.c pcvt_sup.c pcvt_tbl.h pcvt_vtf.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT files.i386 Message-ID: <19981227101414.B12867@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <68043.914777459@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <68043.914777459@critter.freebsd.dk>; from Poul-Henning Kamp on Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 05:50:59PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > >Poul, I know that there is work afoot to make a vt emulator for syscons > >but isn't this a bit premature? > > No, if anything it should have been done long time ago, because > the existence of PCVT has put a damper on the effort to make a VT > emulation for syscons. But why pull it out of 3.0.1? Pretty radical change from 3.0.0 -> 3.0.1. Why not wait until after 3.0-STABLE and yank it from 3.1-CURRENT? This would give people some warning on our intentions. I assume you don't want to get into a long email discussion over things like this. So you could have just declared it dead in 3.1-CURRENT, peroid. Much of the other stuff you cleaned up was clearly broken, but this wasn't and I know people using it. Hell, NFS is partially broken. Why don't we yank it out? The existence of the current code keeps anyone from starting a fresh NFS subsystem that works well. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 10:27:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19947 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:27:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19939; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:27:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA68634; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:27:00 +0100 (CET) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Julian Elischer , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile pcvt.4 src/sys/i386/isa/pcvt pcvt_conf.h pcvt_drv.c pcvt_ext.c pcvt_hdr.h pcvt_kbd.c pcvt_kbd.h pcvt_out.c pcvt_sup.c pcvt_tbl.h pcvt_vtf.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT files.i386 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:14:14 PST." <19981227101414.B12867@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:26:59 +0100 Message-ID: <68632.914783219@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <19981227101414.B12867@dragon.nuxi.com>, "David O'Brien" writes: >> >Poul, I know that there is work afoot to make a vt emulator for syscons >> >but isn't this a bit premature? >> >> No, if anything it should have been done long time ago, because >> the existence of PCVT has put a damper on the effort to make a VT >> emulation for syscons. > >But why pull it out of 3.0.1? Pretty radical change from 3.0.0 -> 3.0.1. >Why not wait until after 3.0-STABLE and yank it from 3.1-CURRENT? Well I agree we should have, but rather now than later. >Hell, NFS is partially broken. Why don't we yank it out? The existence >of the current code keeps anyone from starting a fresh NFS subsystem that >works well. NFS is too widely used for such a tactic, but a well working NFS implementaion would be most welcome. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 10:43:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21222 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:43:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21217; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:43:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dirk@FreeBSD.org) From: Dirk Froemberg Received: (from dirk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA03144; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:43:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:43:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271843.KAA03144@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11-toolkits/xforms Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dirk 1998/12/27 10:43:33 PST Modified files: x11-toolkits/xforms Makefile Log: Fix soname for ELF. This is a quick and dirty temporary fix only. I'll ask the author to use the correct soname in the distribution. PR: ports/9042 Revision Changes Path 1.22 +15 -1 ports/x11-toolkits/xforms/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 10:44:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21503 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:44:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21497; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:44:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dirk@FreeBSD.org) From: Dirk Froemberg Received: (from dirk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA03302; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:44:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:44:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271844.KAA03302@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11-toolkits/xforms/patches.elf patch-ab Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dirk 1998/12/27 10:44:36 PST Modified files: x11-toolkits/xforms/patches.elf patch-ab Log: Typo. Revision Changes Path 1.2 +1 -1 ports/x11-toolkits/xforms/patches.elf/patch-ab To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 10:53:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21930 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:53:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21921; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:53:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA33145; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:53:06 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA38909; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:53:05 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199812271853.UAA38909@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386 Makefile pcvt.4 src/sys/i386/isa/pcvt pcvt_conf.h pcvt_drv.c pcvt_ext.c pcvt_hdr.h pcvt_kbd.c pcvt_kbd.h pcvt_out.c pcvt_sup.c pcvt_tbl.h pcvt_vtf.c src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC LINT files.i386 In-Reply-To: Your message of " Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:26:59 +0100." <68632.914783219@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <68632.914783219@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:53:04 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >Hell, NFS is partially broken. Why don't we yank it out? The existence > >of the current code keeps anyone from starting a fresh NFS subsystem that > >works well. > > NFS is too widely used for such a tactic, but a well working NFS > implementaion would be most welcome. I'd almost agree with yanking NFS if it wasn't for that fact that NFSv2 actually works. CODA is providing a heck of an attractive alternative. I _hate_ NFS. It works by the grace of God alone. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 10:59:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22712 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:59:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22707; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:59:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.org) From: Søren Schmidt Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA05142; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:59:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:59:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271859.KAA05142@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/lkm Makefile src/lkm/wcd Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sos 1998/12/27 10:59:21 PST Modified files: lkm Makefile Removed files: lkm/wcd Makefile Log: Remove depricated wcd LKM. Revision Changes Path 1.35 +2 -2 src/lkm/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 11:01:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23120 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:01:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23115; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:01:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.org) From: Søren Schmidt Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA05481; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:01:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:01:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271901.LAA05481@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/modules Makefile src/sys/modules/wcd Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sos 1998/12/27 11:01:47 PST Modified files: sys/modules Makefile Removed files: sys/modules/wcd Makefile Log: Remove depricated wcd module. Revision Changes Path 1.40 +2 -2 src/sys/modules/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 11:30:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25639 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:30:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25634; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:30:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dirk@FreeBSD.org) From: Dirk Froemberg Received: (from dirk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA08783; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:30:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:30:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271930.LAA08783@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/databases/xmysql Makefile ports/databases/xmysql/files md5 ports/databases/xmysql/patches patch-ac patch-aa Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dirk 1998/12/27 11:30:33 PST Modified files: databases/xmysql Makefile databases/xmysql/files md5 databases/xmysql/patches patch-aa Added files: databases/xmysql/patches patch-ac Log: Upgrade to 1.9 Requested by: Andreas Klemm Revision Changes Path 1.13 +3 -3 ports/databases/xmysql/Makefile 1.4 +1 -1 ports/databases/xmysql/files/md5 1.4 +21 -20 ports/databases/xmysql/patches/patch-aa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 11:38:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26569 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:38:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26564; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:38:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.org) From: Søren Schmidt Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA10037; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:38:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:38:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271938.LAA10037@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/lkm/atapi Makefile src/lkm/ccd Makefile src/lkm/cd9660 Makefile src/lkm/coda Makefile src/lkm/coff Makefile coff.c src/lkm/fdesc Makefile src/lkm/fpu Makefile src/lkm/gnufpu Makefile src/lkm/ibcs2 Makefile ibcs2 ibcs2.8 ... Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sos 1998/12/27 11:38:15 PST Removed files: lkm/atapi Makefile lkm/ccd Makefile lkm/cd9660 Makefile lkm/coda Makefile lkm/coff Makefile coff.c lkm/fdesc Makefile lkm/fpu Makefile lkm/gnufpu Makefile lkm/ibcs2 Makefile ibcs2 ibcs2.8 ibcs2.c lkm/if_disc Makefile lkm/if_ppp Makefile lkm/if_sl Makefile lkm/if_tun Makefile lkm/ip_mroute_mod Makefile lkm/ipfw Makefile lkm/joy Makefile joy joy.8 lkm/kernfs Makefile lkm/linux Makefile linux linux.8 linux.c lkm/mfs Makefile lkm/msdos Makefile lkm/nfs Makefile lkm/nullfs Makefile lkm/pcic Makefile lkm/portal Makefile lkm/procfs Makefile lkm/syscons Makefile saver.h lkm/syscons/blank Makefile blank_saver.c lkm/syscons/daemon Makefile daemon_saver.c lkm/syscons/fade Makefile fade_saver.c lkm/syscons/green Makefile green_saver.c lkm/syscons/snake Makefile snake_saver.c lkm/syscons/star Makefile star_saver.c lkm/umapfs Makefile lkm/union Makefile lkm/vesa Makefile lkm/vinum COPYRIGHT Makefile config.c interrupt.c io.c lock.c makestatetext memory.c parser.c request.c request.h revive.c state.c statetexts.h util.c vinum.c vinumext.h vinumhdr.h vinumio.h vinumioctl.c vinumkw.h vinumstate.h vinumvar.h Log: Remove LKM's depricated by modules. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 11:43:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26804 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:43:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26799; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:43:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.org) From: Søren Schmidt Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA10531; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:43:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:43:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271943.LAA10531@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sbin Makefile src/sys/modules Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sos 1998/12/27 11:43:29 PST Modified files: sbin Makefile sys/modules Makefile Log: Temporaryly disable vinum, awaiting repository copy of misplaced files. Revision Changes Path 1.60 +3 -3 src/sbin/Makefile 1.41 +3 -2 src/sys/modules/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 11:44:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27080 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:44:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27075; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:44:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA10608; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:43:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:43:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271943.LAA10608@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/japanese/netscape4-communicator Makefile ports/japanese/netscape4-communicator/files md5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/27 11:43:53 PST Modified files: japanese/netscape4-communicator Makefile japanese/netscape4-communicator/files md5 Log: Rewrite the html of splash. Revision Changes Path 1.13 +2 -2 ports/japanese/netscape4-communicator/Makefile 1.7 +1 -1 ports/japanese/netscape4-communicator/files/md5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 11:51:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27662 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27651; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:51:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA11438; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:51:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 11:51:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812271951.LAA11438@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf LINT Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/27 11:51:35 PST Modified files: sys/i386/conf LINT Log: followup to Pre 3.0 branch cleanup casualty #4: pcvt Revision Changes Path 1.520 +1 -11 src/sys/i386/conf/LINT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 12:03:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28420 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:03:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28415; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:03:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA12759; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:03:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:03:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272003.MAA12759@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT avail Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk jkh 1998/12/27 12:03:46 PST Modified files: . avail Log: Add Hellmuth Michaelis to committers. Revision Changes Path 1.60 +2 -2 CVSROOT/avail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 12:09:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28983 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:09:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28978; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:09:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.org) From: Søren Schmidt Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA13400; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:09:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:09:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272009.MAA13400@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa pcaudio.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sos 1998/12/27 12:09:32 PST Modified files: sys/i386/isa pcaudio.c Log: Fix the move of the ulaw.h file.. Revision Changes Path 1.45 +39 -7 src/sys/i386/isa/pcaudio.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 12:24:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00309 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:24:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00303; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:24:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) id NAA24056; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:24:15 -0700 (MST) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199812272024.NAA24056@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/systat vmstat.c In-Reply-To: <199812270851.TAA04807@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from Bruce Evans at "Dec 27, 98 07:51:28 pm" To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:24:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@lemis.com, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28s (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans wrote... > >> Modified files: > >> usr.bin/systat vmstat.c > >> Log: > >> Don't waste precious space on showing the performance of fdX. > >> (can get old behavior with -DWANT_FD) > > > >Not that I'll cry any tears over floppies, but I'd guess that those > >who do would also be upset to have to set special flags. Wouldn't it > >be easier to add a flag, say, -reallyusethisoldjunk. > > People would be upset by having to set a special flag like that :-). > > The default should be to sort floppies to the end of the list so that > they fall of the end of the display before more important devices. > Then there should be something like iostat(8)'s devices list, but > actually working (iostat da0 wd0 disorders the devices to wd0 da0 here). There is something like iostat(8)'s devices list. Have you tried: :only da0 wd0 da1 (:show is a synonym) It will show just the devices you ask for. There's also an :ignore statement, a :match statement to match against certain types of devices (like iostat's -t argument). Those arguments work with any of the displays in systat(1) that show the disk devices. The reason that devices in systat, iostat, and vmstat aren't shown in the order they are specified (if they are specified) is because they are displayed as they're found. They're found in probe order. That saves an extra sorting step for each display of statistics. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 12:25:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00543 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:25:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00537; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:25:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.org) From: Søren Schmidt Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA15105; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:25:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:25:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272025.MAA15105@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/lkm Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sos 1998/12/27 12:25:12 PST Removed files: lkm Makefile Log: Remove LKM's depricated by modules. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 12:49:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01855 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:49:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01850; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:49:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA17660; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:49:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:49:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272049.MAA17660@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/cad/geda Makefile ports/cad/geda/files md5 ports/cad/geda/pkg PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/27 12:49:40 PST Modified files: cad/geda Makefile cad/geda/files md5 cad/geda/pkg PLIST Log: Upgrade to 19981213. Revision Changes Path 1.5 +4 -4 ports/cad/geda/Makefile 1.2 +1 -1 ports/cad/geda/files/md5 1.2 +23 -0 ports/cad/geda/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 13:11:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03703 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:11:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03696; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:11:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA20115; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:11:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:11:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272111.NAA20115@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src Makefile.inc1 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/27 13:11:07 PST Modified files: . Makefile.inc1 Log: follow up to: Pre 3.0 branch cleanup casualty #4: pcvt Revision Changes Path 1.50 +2 -5 src/Makefile.inc1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 13:31:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05424 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:31:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05419; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:30:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA21915; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:30:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:30:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272130.NAA21915@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin Makefile src/sys/net if_sppp.h if_spppsubr.c src/usr.sbin/spppcontrol Makefile spppcontrol.8 spppcontrol.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/27 13:30:50 PST Modified files: usr.sbin Makefile sys/net if_sppp.h if_spppsubr.c Added files: usr.sbin/spppcontrol Makefile spppcontrol.8 spppcontrol.c Log: Update sppp support to i4b level. This includes the new spppcontrol program to set PPP options like authentication with. Revision Changes Path 1.140 +2 -1 src/usr.sbin/Makefile 1.13 +11 -2 src/sys/net/if_sppp.h 1.52 +115 -33 src/sys/net/if_spppsubr.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 13:38:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06129 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:38:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06124; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:38:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA22664; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:38:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:38:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272138.NAA22664@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/systat systat.1 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/27 13:38:09 PST Modified files: usr.bin/systat systat.1 Log: Update section on DK_NDRIVES (which was removed with CAM), and explain relation to devstat(3)/(9). Submitted-by: ken@freebsd.org Revision Changes Path 1.16 +10 -9 src/usr.bin/systat/systat.1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 13:44:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06417 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:44:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06412; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:44:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA23487; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:44:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:44:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272144.NAA23487@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/systat devs.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/27 13:44:03 PST Modified files: usr.bin/systat devs.h Log: Add copyright and RCS/CVS Id. Noticed by: ken Revision Changes Path 1.2 +28 -0 src/usr.bin/systat/devs.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 13:47:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06737 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:47:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06732; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:47:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA23909; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:47:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:47:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272147.NAA23909@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/share Makefile src/usr.sbin Makefile src/share/isdn 0.g711a.uu 1.g711a.uu 2.g711a.uu 3.g711a.uu 4.g711a.uu 5.g711a.uu 6.g711a.uu 7.g711a.uu 8.g711a.uu 9.g711a.uu Makefile beep.g711a.uu msg.g711a.uu src/sys/i4b/driver i4b_ctl.c ... Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/27 13:47:14 PST Modified files: share Makefile usr.sbin Makefile sys/conf files sys/i386/conf LINT files.i386 options.i386 Added files: share/isdn 0.g711a.uu 1.g711a.uu 2.g711a.uu 3.g711a.uu 4.g711a.uu 5.g711a.uu 6.g711a.uu 7.g711a.uu 8.g711a.uu 9.g711a.uu Makefile beep.g711a.uu msg.g711a.uu sys/i4b/driver i4b_ctl.c i4b_ipr.c i4b_isppp.c i4b_rbch.c i4b_tel.c i4b_trace.c sys/i4b/include i4b_global.h i4b_isdnq931.h i4b_l1l2.h i4b_l2l3.h i4b_l3l4.h i4b_mbuf.h sys/i4b/layer1 i4b_avm_a1.c i4b_avm_fritz_pcmcia.c i4b_bchan.c i4b_ctx_s0P.c i4b_drn_ngo.c i4b_dynalink.c i4b_elsa_isdnmc.c i4b_elsa_mcall.c i4b_elsa_qs1i.c i4b_elsa_qs1p.c i4b_hscx.c i4b_hscx.h i4b_ipac.h i4b_isac.c i4b_isac.h i4b_isic.c i4b_isic_isa.c i4b_isic_pci.c i4b_isic_pcmcia.c i4b_isic_pnp.c i4b_itk_ix1.c i4b_l1.c i4b_l1.h i4b_l1fsm.c i4b_sws.c i4b_tel_s016.c i4b_tel_s0163.c i4b_tel_s08.c i4b_tel_s0P.c i4b_usr_sti.c isa_isic.c isapnp_isic.c isic_supio.c pci_isic.c pcmcia_isic.c pcmcia_isic.h sys/i4b/layer2 i4b_iframe.c i4b_l2.c i4b_l2.h i4b_l2fsm.c i4b_l2fsm.h i4b_l2timer.c i4b_lme.c i4b_mbuf.c i4b_sframe.c i4b_tei.c i4b_uframe.c i4b_util.c sys/i4b/layer3 i4b_l2if.c i4b_l3.h i4b_l3fsm.c i4b_l3fsm.h i4b_l3timer.c i4b_l4if.c i4b_q931.c i4b_q931.h i4b_q932fac.c i4b_q932fac.h sys/i4b/layer4 i4b_i4bdrv.c i4b_l4.c i4b_l4.h i4b_l4mgmt.c i4b_l4timer.c sys/i4b/tina-dd README i4b_tina_dd.c i4b_tina_ioctl.h sys/i386/include i4b_cause.h i4b_debug.h i4b_ioctl.h i4b_tel_ioctl.h i4b_trace.h usr.sbin/i4b Makefile Makefile.inc usr.sbin/i4b/alawulaw Makefile alaw2ulaw.1 alaw2ulaw.c ulaw2alaw.1 usr.sbin/i4b/isdnd Makefile alias.c config.h controller.c curses.c dial.c exec.c fsm.c isdnd.8 isdnd.acct.5 isdnd.h isdnd.rates.5 isdnd.rc.5 log.c main.c monitor.c msghdl.c pathnames.h pcause.c process.c rates.c rc_config.c rc_parse.y rc_scan.l support.c timer.c vararray.h usr.sbin/i4b/isdndebug Makefile isdndebug.8 main.c usr.sbin/i4b/isdndecode Makefile decode.h facility.c facility.h isdndecode.8 layer1.c layer2.c layer3.c layer3_subr.c main.c pcause.c pcause.h usr.sbin/i4b/isdnmonitor Makefile isdnmonitor.8 main.c monitor.h usr.sbin/i4b/isdntel Makefile alias.c alias.h defs.h display.c files.c isdntel.8 main.c usr.sbin/i4b/isdntelctl Makefile isdntelctl.8 main.c usr.sbin/i4b/isdntest Makefile isdntest.8 main.c usr.sbin/i4b/isdntrace 1tr6.c Makefile cable.txt isdntrace.8 pcause_1tr6.c pcause_1tr6.h pcause_q850.c pcause_q850.h q921.c q931.c q931_util.c q932_fac.c q932_fac.h trace.c trace.h usr.sbin/i4b/man Makefile daic.4 i4b.4 i4bctl.4 i4bipr.4 i4bisppp.4 i4bq921.4 i4bq931.4 i4brbch.4 i4btel.4 i4btrc.4 isic.4 Log: Initial entry of ISDN4BSD into the FreeBSD tree. ISDN4BSD is the work of our brand-new comitter: Hellmuth Michaelis, who has done a tremendous amount of work to bring us this far. There are still some outstanding issues and files to bring into the tree, and for now it will be needed to pick up all the extra docs from the isdn4bsd release. It is probably also a very good idea to subscribe to the isdn@freebsd.org mailing list before you try this out. These files correspond to release "beta Version 0.70.00 / December 1998" from Hellmuth. Revision Changes Path 1.17 +1 -1 src/share/Makefile 1.141 +2 -1 src/usr.sbin/Makefile 1.184 +36 -0 src/sys/conf/files 1.521 +115 -1 src/sys/i386/conf/LINT 1.215 +25 -1 src/sys/i386/conf/files.i386 1.99 +37 -1 src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 14:03:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08011 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:03:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08006; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:03:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@FreeBSD.org) From: "Dag-Erling C. Sm\xf8rgrav" Received: (from des@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA25322; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:03:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:03:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272203.OAA25322@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/syscons/warp Makefile warp_saver.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk des 1998/12/27 14:03:09 PST Added files: sys/modules/syscons/warp Makefile warp_saver.c Log: Finally give FreeBSD a graphical screensaver. It isn't much, but it works, and can serve as a template for further efforts. Consider this my (belated) Christmas present to the Project :) Requested by: jkh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 14:03:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08222 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:03:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08217; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:03:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@FreeBSD.org) From: "Dag-Erling C. Sm\xf8rgrav" Received: (from des@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA25407; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:03:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:03:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272203.OAA25407@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/syscons Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk des 1998/12/27 14:03:40 PST Modified files: sys/modules/syscons Makefile Log: Activate the warp screensaver. Revision Changes Path 1.5 +2 -2 src/sys/modules/syscons/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 14:04:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08293 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:04:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08287; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:04:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@FreeBSD.org) From: "Dag-Erling C. Sm\xf8rgrav" Received: (from des@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA25499; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:04:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:04:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272204.OAA25499@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/etc rc.conf Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk des 1998/12/27 14:04:15 PST Modified files: etc rc.conf Log: List the warp screensaver along with the others. Revision Changes Path 1.68 +2 -2 src/etc/rc.conf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 14:07:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08408 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:07:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08403; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:07:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA09507; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:07:08 -0800 (PST) To: "Dag-Erling C. Sm\xf8rgrav" cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/syscons/warp Makefile warp_saver.c In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:03:09 PST." <199812272203.OAA25322@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:07:07 -0800 Message-ID: <9503.914796427@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Yay! Thanks, I'm off to test this out! - Jordan > des 1998/12/27 14:03:09 PST > > Added files: > sys/modules/syscons/warp Makefile warp_saver.c > Log: > Finally give FreeBSD a graphical screensaver. It isn't much, but it works, > and can serve as a template for further efforts. Consider this my (belated) > Christmas present to the Project :) > > Requested by: jkh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 14:31:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10301 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:31:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10296; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:31:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@FreeBSD.org) From: Satoshi Asami Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA27383; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:31:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:31:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272231.OAA27383@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/print/ghostscript55 Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk asami 1998/12/27 14:31:29 PST Modified files: print/ghostscript55 Makefile Log: Mark this broken after repo copy. Revision Changes Path 1.28 +3 -1 ports/print/ghostscript55/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 15:00:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13723 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:00:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13716; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:00:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA28443; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:00:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:00:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272300.PAA28443@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/etc rc.conf Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk jkh 1998/12/27 15:00:18 PST Modified files: etc rc.conf Log: Update comment for saver variable now that its changed its function (and list of available values) somewhat. Revision Changes Path 1.69 +2 -2 src/etc/rc.conf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 15:23:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15361 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:23:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15354; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:23:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@FreeBSD.org) From: Michael Smith Received: (from msmith@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA29222; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:23:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:23:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272323.PAA29222@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf LINT options.i386 src/sys/i386/i386 identcpu.c initcpu.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk msmith 1998/12/27 15:23:27 PST Modified files: sys/i386/conf LINT options.i386 sys/i386/i386 identcpu.c initcpu.c Log: From the submitter: CPU_WT_ALLOC does not work correctly for K6-2s of model 8+ and probably K6-3s (when they appear on the market soon). In addition, print_AMD_info() incorrectly printfs write allocation's size. I've fixed them, so they now Do The Right Thing, and added a "NO_MEMORY_HOLE" option to easily allow 15-16mb range handling for us K6 and K6-2 users. Submitted by: Brian Feldman Revision Changes Path 1.522 +5 -1 src/sys/i386/conf/LINT 1.100 +2 -1 src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 1.54 +19 -6 src/sys/i386/i386/identcpu.c 1.16 +67 -3 src/sys/i386/i386/initcpu.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 15:27:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15728 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:27:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15723; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:27:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA15320; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:27:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:27:14 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons Reply-To: Chris Timmons To: John Birrell cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC GENERICupgrade SMP-GENERIC In-Reply-To: <199812271312.FAA12384@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Would the appropriate response to the demise of GENERICupgrade be to edit src/Makefile to tell the 2.x user to just copy an appropriate config file to that name? I don't think we want to abandon the capability to upgrade from 2.x to -current.elf just yet. ... from /usr/src/Makefile.upgrade: 209 @cd ${.CURDIR}/sys/${MACHINE}/conf; config GENERICupgrade 210 @-cd ${.CURDIR}/sys/compile/GENERICupgrade; \ 211 OBJFORMAT=aout make depend && make all 212 @cd ${.CURDIR}/sys/compile/GENERICupgrade; \ 213 OBJFORMAT=aout make depend && make all 214 .endif 215 @touch ${MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX}/do_aout_kernel -Chris On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > phk 1998/12/27 05:12:59 PST > > Modified files: > sys/i386/conf GENERIC > Removed files: > sys/i386/conf GENERICupgrade SMP-GENERIC > Log: > Add commented out SMP stuff in GENERIC, remove stale configs. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.138 +10 -1 src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 15:35:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16538 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:35:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16529; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:35:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA12864; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:35:47 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199812272335.KAA12864@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC GENERICupgrade SMP-GENERIC In-Reply-To: from Chris Timmons at "Dec 27, 98 03:27:14 pm" To: skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:35:47 +1100 (EST) Cc: jb@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Chris Timmons wrote: > > Would the appropriate response to the demise of GENERICupgrade be to edit > src/Makefile to tell the 2.x user to just copy an appropriate config file > to that name? I don't think we want to abandon the capability to upgrade > from 2.x to -current.elf just yet. I think we should test is the file exists and copy GENERIC if not. And if the GENERIC file was copied to GENERICupgrade, delete it after running config. I guess the FreeBSD-labs will be testing all this out? -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 15:36:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16602 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:36:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16597; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:36:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA29779; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:36:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:36:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272336.PAA29779@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/gallery gallery.db Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wosch 1998/12/27 15:36:01 PST Modified files: en/gallery gallery.db Log: softronex.dynip.com -> www.softronex.com Submitted by: Karl Wagner Revision Changes Path 1.14 +1 -1 www/en/gallery/gallery.db To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 15:37:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16665 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:37:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16660; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:37:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA29998; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:37:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:37:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272337.PAA29998@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en support.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wosch 1998/12/27 15:37:07 PST Modified files: en support.sgml Log: New name and home for the San Francisco users group. Submitted by: Josef Grosch Revision Changes Path 1.107 +4 -4 www/en/support.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 15:40:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16763 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:39:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16754; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:39:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA00371; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:38:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:38:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272338.PAA00371@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/commercial software.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wosch 1998/12/27 15:38:54 PST Modified files: en/commercial software.sgml Log: Added: Sleepycat Software offers the Berkeley Database product. Berkeley DB is a programmatic toolkit that provides high-performance embedded database support. Submitted by: Amy Adams, Berkeley DB Product Manager Revision Changes Path 1.56 +18 -2 www/en/commercial/software.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 15:41:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16900 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:41:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16894; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:41:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA69819; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:37:34 +0100 (CET) To: Chris Timmons cc: John Birrell , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC GENERICupgrade SMP-GENERIC In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:27:14 PST." Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:37:31 +0100 Message-ID: <69817.914801851@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I don't know, GENERICupgrade didn't work last time I tried it, and several crucial recent changes have not been reflected in it, so I presumed that the effort to keep it up to date had faltered. If I'm wrong and you intend to maintain it in the future, you are welcome to resurrect it. Poul-Henning In message , Chris T immons writes: > >Would the appropriate response to the demise of GENERICupgrade be to edit >src/Makefile to tell the 2.x user to just copy an appropriate config file >to that name? I don't think we want to abandon the capability to upgrade >from 2.x to -current.elf just yet. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 15:43:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17068 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:43:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles315.castles.com [208.214.167.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17060; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:43:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05690; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:39:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812272339.PAA05690@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Birrell cc: skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu, jb@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC GENERICupgrade SMP-GENERIC In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:35:47 +1100." <199812272335.KAA12864@cimlogic.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:39:02 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Chris Timmons wrote: > > > > Would the appropriate response to the demise of GENERICupgrade be to edit > > src/Makefile to tell the 2.x user to just copy an appropriate config file > > to that name? I don't think we want to abandon the capability to upgrade > > from 2.x to -current.elf just yet. > > I think we should test is the file exists and copy GENERIC if not. > And if the GENERIC file was copied to GENERICupgrade, delete it after > running config. > > I guess the FreeBSD-labs will be testing all this out? I'm not quite sure what our response to the 2.2 -> 3.x upgrade path will be. At the moment, we're having more success with "do a binary upgrade", because the built upgrade path is littered with corpses. There'll definitely be some testing done, but I wouldn't want to commit to a prognosis at this point. I *definitely* feel that all of the upgrade stuff should be removed from the 3.1 branch as soon as the branch occurs. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 15:53:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18008 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:53:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18003; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:53:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) From: Bill Fumerola Received: (from billf@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA02276; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:53:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:53:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272353.PAA02276@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11-toolkits/v/patches patch-ae Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk billf 1998/12/27 15:53:23 PST Added files: x11-toolkits/v/patches patch-ae Log: Use the proper libraries when linking. PR: ports/8893 Submitted by: jake@checker.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 15:53:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18075 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:53:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18067; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:53:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) From: Bill Fumerola Received: (from billf@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA02347; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:53:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:53:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272353.PAA02347@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11-toolkits/v Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk billf 1998/12/27 15:53:44 PST Modified files: x11-toolkits/v Makefile Log: Remove stale MASTER_SITE. Revision Changes Path 1.9 +2 -3 ports/x11-toolkits/v/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 15:55:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18153 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:55:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18145; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:55:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cwt@FreeBSD.org) From: Chris Timmons Received: (from cwt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA02520; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:55:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:55:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272355.PAA02520@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/etc login.conf Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk cwt 1998/12/27 15:55:01 PST Modified files: etc login.conf Log: Don't set a MANPATH by default for users who aren't in a login class. man(1) will utilize manpath(1) if MANPATH is unset in the environment, and with our existing manpath.config it is enough to find the X11 pages among others. PR: 8587 Submitted by: Marc Slemko Revision Changes Path 1.23 +2 -3 src/etc/login.conf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 15:57:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18350 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:57:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18345; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:57:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) From: Bill Fumerola Received: (from billf@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA02867; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:57:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:57:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812272357.PAA02867@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/security/SSLeay/patches patch-ad Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk billf 1998/12/27 15:57:40 PST Added files: security/SSLeay/patches patch-ad Log: Update incorrect md5 printout. PR: ports/9198 Submitted by: Shigeyuki FUKUSHIMA shige@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 16:01:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18899 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:01:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18856 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:01:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA16576; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:01:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:01:09 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons To: Mike Smith cc: John Birrell , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC GENERICupgrade SMP-GENERIC In-Reply-To: <199812272339.PAA05690@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk My own experience with 2.2.6-ish boxes and -current from about two weeks ago has been that the upgrade worked fine. If you can find a way to save some of the upgrade stuff a little longer I think it would be nice :) -Chris On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > I'm not quite sure what our response to the 2.2 -> 3.x upgrade path > will be. At the moment, we're having more success with "do a binary > upgrade", because the built upgrade path is littered with corpses. > > There'll definitely be some testing done, but I wouldn't want to commit > to a prognosis at this point. > > I *definitely* feel that all of the upgrade stuff should be removed > from the 3.1 branch as soon as the branch occurs. > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 16:09:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21134 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:09:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles315.castles.com [208.214.167.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21129 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:09:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05861; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:05:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812280005.QAA05861@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Chris Timmons cc: Mike Smith , John Birrell , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC GENERICupgrade SMP-GENERIC In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:01:09 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:04:59 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > My own experience with 2.2.6-ish boxes and -current from about two weeks > ago has been that the upgrade worked fine. If you can find a way to save > some of the upgrade stuff a little longer I think it would be nice :) I can't see there being much demand for upgrading from the old -stable to the new -current. The old -stable to new -stable upgrade will be much more important. > -Chris > > On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > > I'm not quite sure what our response to the 2.2 -> 3.x upgrade path > > will be. At the moment, we're having more success with "do a binary > > upgrade", because the built upgrade path is littered with corpses. > > > > There'll definitely be some testing done, but I wouldn't want to commit > > to a prognosis at this point. > > > > I *definitely* feel that all of the upgrade stuff should be removed > > from the 3.1 branch as soon as the branch occurs. > > > > -- > > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > > -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 16:12:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21850 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:12:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21840; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:12:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA25674; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:41:52 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id KAA29505; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:41:54 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981228104154.R12346@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:41:54 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sbin Makefile src/sys/modules Makefile References: <199812271943.LAA10531@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3C199812271943=2ELAA10531=40freefall=2Efreebsd=2Eorg=3E?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3B_from_S=F8ren_Schmidt_on_Sun=2C_Dec_27=2C_1998_at_11:4?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?3:29AM_-0800?= WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sunday, 27 December 1998 at 11:43:29 -0800, Søren Schmidt wrote: > sos 1998/12/27 11:43:29 PST > > Modified files: > sbin Makefile > sys/modules Makefile > Log: > Temporaryly disable vinum, awaiting repository copy of misplaced files. Why was this necessary? It's been like that for three months now, and it hasn't hurt anybody. If it was in the wrong place, it was placed there with the full knowledge of at least three core team members, one of who looked over my shoulder when I did it. So far I haven't seen anything that even explains what's wrong. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 16:16:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22278 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:16:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22273; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:16:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA05281; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:16:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:16:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280016.QAA05281@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/cgi getmsg.cgi Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wosch 1998/12/27 16:16:31 PST Modified files: en/cgi getmsg.cgi Log: Define alias 'archive' for '/usr/local/www/db/text/' in cgi variable fetch. Save space in URLs... Revision Changes Path 1.18 +2 -1 www/en/cgi/getmsg.cgi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 16:18:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22624 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:18:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22617 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:18:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA13063; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:19:14 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199812280019.LAA13063@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC GENERICupgrade SMP-GENERIC In-Reply-To: <199812280005.QAA05861@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Dec 27, 98 04:04:59 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:19:14 +1100 (EST) Cc: skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu, mike@smith.net.au, jb@cimlogic.com.au, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Mike Smith wrote: > > > > My own experience with 2.2.6-ish boxes and -current from about two weeks > > ago has been that the upgrade worked fine. If you can find a way to save > > some of the upgrade stuff a little longer I think it would be nice :) > > I can't see there being much demand for upgrading from the old -stable > to the new -current. The old -stable to new -stable upgrade will be > much more important. How is old-stable (aout) to new-stable (elf) different from "2.2.6-ish boxes and -current from about two weeks ago"? AFAIK, the same steps are required. The problem is that people commit things without testing the upgrade procedure. Most people don't have a system that they can regularly spam. The system I was testing this stuff on now has Solaris/x86 on it, so I'm not in a position to test the upgrade either (even if I had time). -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 16:20:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23012 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:20:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22957; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:20:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA13078; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:21:37 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199812280021.LAA13078@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sbin Makefile src/sys/modules Makefile In-Reply-To: <19981228104154.R12346@freebie.lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Dec 28, 98 10:41:54 am" To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:21:37 +1100 (EST) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Greg Lehey wrote: > On Sunday, 27 December 1998 at 11:43:29 -0800, Søren Schmidt wrote: > > sos 1998/12/27 11:43:29 PST > > > > Modified files: > > sbin Makefile > > sys/modules Makefile > > Log: > > Temporaryly disable vinum, awaiting repository copy of misplaced files. > > Why was this necessary? It's been like that for three months now, and > it hasn't hurt anybody. If it was in the wrong place, it was placed > there with the full knowledge of at least three core team members, one > of who looked over my shoulder when I did it. So far I haven't seen > anything that even explains what's wrong. I guess you missed the "HEADS UP" message too. 8-) [ Is this FreeBSD or NetBSD? (rhetorical) ] -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 16:36:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26462 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:36:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26456; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:36:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA06713; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:35:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:35:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280035.QAA06713@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/graphics/fnlib Makefile ports/graphics/fnlib/files md5 ports/graphics/fnlib/patches patch-ac patch-ad patch-aa patch-ab ports/graphics/fnlib/pkg PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/27 16:35:54 PST Modified files: graphics/fnlib Makefile graphics/fnlib/files md5 graphics/fnlib/patches patch-ac patch-ad graphics/fnlib/pkg PLIST Removed files: graphics/fnlib/patches patch-aa patch-ab Log: Upgrade to 0.4. Revision Changes Path 1.6 +8 -8 ports/graphics/fnlib/Makefile 1.4 +1 -1 ports/graphics/fnlib/files/md5 1.3 +7 -7 ports/graphics/fnlib/patches/patch-ac 1.2 +20 -28 ports/graphics/fnlib/patches/patch-ad 1.8 +251 -252 ports/graphics/fnlib/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 16:37:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26513 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:37:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26508; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:37:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@FreeBSD.org) From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA06796; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:37:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:37:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280037.QAA06796@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/archivers/unzip.with_encryption Makefile ports/archivers/unzip.with_encryption/files md5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ache 1998/12/27 16:37:39 PST Modified files: archivers/unzip.with_encryption Makefile archivers/unzip.with_encryption/files md5 Log: upgrade to 5.40 Revision Changes Path 1.32 +11 -11 ports/archivers/unzip.with_encryption/Makefile 1.14 +2 -2 ports/archivers/unzip.with_encryption/files/md5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 16:39:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26704 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:39:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26699; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:39:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cwt@FreeBSD.org) From: Chris Timmons Received: (from cwt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA06837; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:39:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:39:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280039.QAA06837@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/syslogd syslogd.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk cwt 1998/12/27 16:39:14 PST Modified files: usr.sbin/syslogd syslogd.c Log: Block SIGHUP during call to gethostbyaddr(). PR: 5548 Reviewed by: Matthew Dillon Obtained from: OpenBSD Revision Changes Path 1.44 +6 -1 src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 16:44:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27251 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:44:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27246; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:44:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA07104; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:44:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:44:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280044.QAA07104@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/graphics/imlib/patches patch-ag Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/27 16:44:26 PST Modified files: graphics/imlib/patches patch-ag Log: Fix typo error. Revision Changes Path 1.3 +2 -2 ports/graphics/imlib/patches/patch-ag To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 16:45:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27306 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:45:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27299; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:45:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca32-59.ix.netcom.com [209.109.239.59]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23481; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.6.9) id QAA17601; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:43:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:43:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280043.QAA17601@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: sada@FreeBSD.ORG CC: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199812271804.KAA28842@freefall.freebsd.org> (message from SADA Kenji on Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:04:34 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/sysutils/comconsole - Imported sources From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk * Moved from `misc' category. * -- * This package will setup your PC to use serial port COM1 as its console * device. Sorry, but we put serial port utilities in "comms". ;) Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 17:02:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28503 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:02:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28498; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:02:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA07770; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:02:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:02:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280102.RAA07770@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/audio/gqmpeg Makefile ports/audio/gqmpeg/files md5 ports/audio/gqmpeg/patches patch-aa Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/27 17:02:06 PST Modified files: audio/gqmpeg Makefile audio/gqmpeg/files md5 audio/gqmpeg/patches patch-aa Log: Upgrade to 0.4.4, depend with gtk11-devel now. Revision Changes Path 1.6 +5 -7 ports/audio/gqmpeg/Makefile 1.4 +1 -1 ports/audio/gqmpeg/files/md5 1.5 +4 -4 ports/audio/gqmpeg/patches/patch-aa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 17:03:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28713 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:03:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28705; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:03:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@FreeBSD.org) From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA07875; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:03:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:03:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280103.RAA07875@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/archivers/zip.with_encryption Makefile ports/archivers/zip.with_encryption/files md5 ports/archivers/zip.with_encryption/patches patch-ab patch-ac Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ache 1998/12/27 17:03:12 PST Modified files: archivers/zip.with_encryption Makefile archivers/zip.with_encryption/files md5 Added files: archivers/zip.with_encryption/patches patch-ab patch-ac Log: use zcrypt28 Revision Changes Path 1.34 +5 -5 ports/archivers/zip.with_encryption/Makefile 1.16 +1 -1 ports/archivers/zip.with_encryption/files/md5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 17:25:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00473 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:25:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00467; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:25:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA10353; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:24:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:24:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280124.RAA10353@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/cgi getmsg.cgi Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wosch 1998/12/27 17:24:55 PST Modified files: en/cgi getmsg.cgi Log: Added link to weekly mail index. Revision Changes Path 1.19 +4 -1 www/en/cgi/getmsg.cgi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 17:38:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03042 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:38:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03037; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:38:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA12145; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:38:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:38:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280138.RAA12145@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/cgi getmsg.cgi Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wosch 1998/12/27 17:38:30 PST Modified files: en/cgi getmsg.cgi Log: Fix last commit. Revision Changes Path 1.20 +4 -2 www/en/cgi/getmsg.cgi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 17:43:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05424 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:43:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05419; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:43:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@FreeBSD.org) From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA12933; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:43:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:43:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280143.RAA12933@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/archivers/unzip Makefile ports/archivers/unzip/files md5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ache 1998/12/27 17:43:39 PST Modified files: archivers/unzip Makefile archivers/unzip/files md5 Log: upgrade to 5.40 Revision Changes Path 1.22 +5 -5 ports/archivers/unzip/Makefile 1.7 +1 -1 ports/archivers/unzip/files/md5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 17:45:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05586 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:45:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05578; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:45:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@FreeBSD.org) From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA13107; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:45:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:45:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280145.RAA13107@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/archivers/unzip.with_encryption Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ache 1998/12/27 17:45:01 PST Modified files: archivers/unzip.with_encryption Makefile Log: fix building on alpha Revision Changes Path 1.33 +7 -2 ports/archivers/unzip.with_encryption/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 17:52:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06180 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:52:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06172; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:52:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@FreeBSD.org) From: Satoshi Asami Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA14104; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:52:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:52:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280152.RAA14104@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11-toolkits/xforms/pkg PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk asami 1998/12/27 17:52:19 PST Modified files: x11-toolkits/xforms/pkg PLIST Log: Change ldconfig argument from %B to %D/lib so it will work when lines are moved around. Revision Changes Path 1.15 +1 -1 ports/x11-toolkits/xforms/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 18:47:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11010 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:47:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10999; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:47:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA12978; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:47:34 -0800 (PST) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:47:34 -0800 Message-ID: <12974.914813254@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk OK, clearly this has blown up into a problem which requires dealing with and so please consider this my attempt to at least communicate with all of you and put together some "behind the scenes" information for those who haven't had the benefit(?) of being on the core mailing alias over the last week. The chronology of this is as follows: pre-3.0-RELEASE: A decision is made to switch to KLD from KLM format modules just as soon as the kernel goes ELF, for various interoperability reasons and the fact that KLD modules are simply cleaner. Work is also undertaken to convert the existing LKMs to KLDs in the tree. 3.0-RELEASE "Yay" post-3.0-RELEASE I announce that the 3.0 branch will be created on Jan 15th. Dec 24th Poul-Henning asks whether or not now would be a good time to "clean up", before we actually do the branch and end up with duplicated garbage that needs to be thrown out twice. This seems a reasonable suggestion and a short list of potential candidates is floated before core and various items voted on. Dec 26th The Danes, grumbing about how it's always them who get the hangman's duty on account of the fact that they have their own axes, begin putting various things on the chopping block and cutting their bits off. Dec 27th Core notices that some of the items which have been beheaded during the night weren't actually on the list and that the Danes have chosen to add a few items of their own at the last minute. later that day.. All hell breaks loose as various developers wonder what the hell is going on and why no heads-up message was ever sent out. Core is also muttering about unauthorized assasinations and CIA operatives doing embarassing freelance work involving popular Bostonian presidents and such. So anyway, just to put the minds of those who might be thinking that core has suddenly suffered an attack of Josef Stalin disease ("I want the entire country taken out and shot") more at ease, let me just be the first to say that this was a cleanup expedition which was overcome by an excess of zeal and we apologise to any developers who suddenly felt their worlds crumbling underneath them. Even the most hardened members of core are not much pleased about how this was actually done and you may all rest assured that we've learned from this experience. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 19:56:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16400 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:56:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16393; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:56:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/Netplex) with ESMTP id LAA62433; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:55:44 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199812280355.LAA62433@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Birrell cc: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey), sos@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sbin Makefile src/sys/modules Makefile In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:21:37 +1100." <199812280021.LAA13078@cimlogic.com.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:55:44 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk John Birrell wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Sunday, 27 December 1998 at 11:43:29 -0800, S=F8ren Schmidt wrote:= > > > sos 1998/12/27 11:43:29 PST > > > > > > Modified files: > > > sbin Makefile > > > sys/modules Makefile > > > Log: > > > Temporaryly disable vinum, awaiting repository copy of misplaced = files. > > = > > Why was this necessary? It's been like that for three months now, an= d > > it hasn't hurt anybody. If it was in the wrong place, it was placed > > there with the full knowledge of at least three core team members, on= e > > of who looked over my shoulder when I did it. So far I haven't seen > > anything that even explains what's wrong. > = > I guess you missed the "HEADS UP" message too. 8-) > = > [ Is this FreeBSD or NetBSD? (rhetorical) ] Looks like DkBSD to me.. -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 20:46:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA19973 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:46:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA19952 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:45:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zuUYg-0005gc-00; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:45:34 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA18298; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:44:25 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199812280444.VAA18298@harmony.village.org> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:47:34 PST." <12974.914813254@zippy.cdrom.com> References: <12974.914813254@zippy.cdrom.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:44:24 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <12974.914813254@zippy.cdrom.com> "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: : members of core are not much pleased about how this was actually done : and you may all rest assured that we've learned from this experience. So what have we learned? Can you be more specific so that those of us not on core will know how to handle things like this in the future? IE I want to kill GerbilFS, which is badly rotted, what are the criteria for its death and what is the proceedure to make sure that things doen't get as bloody as FreeBSD's recent purge. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 20:56:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20650 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:56:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20645; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:56:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@FreeBSD.org) From: Peter Wemm Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA07210; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:56:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:56:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280456.UAA07210@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/vinum COPYRIGHT Makefile config.c interrupt.c io.c lock.c makestatetext memory.c parser.c request.c request.h revive.c state.c statetexts.h util.c vinum.c vinumext.h vinumhdr.h vinumio.h vinumioctl.c vinumkw.h vinumstate.h ... Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk peter 1998/12/27 20:56:25 PST Added files: sys/dev/vinum COPYRIGHT Makefile config.c interrupt.c io.c lock.c makestatetext memory.c parser.c request.c request.h revive.c state.c statetexts.h util.c vinum.c vinumext.h vinumhdr.h vinumio.h vinumioctl.c vinumkw.h vinumstate.h vinumvar.h Log: If I've done this right, revive the vinum code in it's now home after it was savaged in the blood bath a few hours ago. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 20:58:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20888 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:58:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20879 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:58:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA14257; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:58:06 -0800 (PST) To: Warner Losh cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:44:24 MST." <199812280444.VAA18298@harmony.village.org> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:58:06 -0800 Message-ID: <14249.914821086@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > So what have we learned? Can you be more specific so that those of us > not on core will know how to handle things like this in the future? > IE I want to kill GerbilFS, which is badly rotted, what are the > criteria for its death and what is the proceedure to make sure that > things doen't get as bloody as FreeBSD's recent purge. Sorry, this is another issue a number of us just discussed and came to a preliminary ruling on - I didn't have an answer to your question just 5 minutes ago or I'd have put it on my "timeline" :-) The criteria for the death of bits in FreeBSD from now on, according to David Greenman, our principal architect and general guy in charge of tie-breaking decisions when such are necessary, is that it be done directly by original author/committer of the bits (and not by any arbitrary 3rd party) unless, and only unless, a *unanimous* core team vote for its removal is made. Such a vote would be preceded by a 72 hour discussion period, during which time committers list would be also brought into the discussion in order to express their opinions, the final decision still being up to the core team and its vote. I personally think that's the only truly fair way to go about this in the future and also it fits nicely with dictum that "a man should always shoot his own dog" - if someone commits something that turns to dreck then they should be the ones to clean it up when the time comes. There will be the occasionally necessary exceptions, of course, such as when an author designates a proxy to do the deed on his behalf due to other time pressures, or when something gets yanked for driving technical reasons (major security flaw, entirely superceded by other functionality, etc), but this is the basic idea. Comments? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:09:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21584 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:09:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles315.castles.com [208.214.167.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21579 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07578; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:05:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812280505.VAA07578@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:58:06 PST." <14249.914821086@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:05:58 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Sorry, this is another issue a number of us just discussed and came to > a preliminary ruling on - I didn't have an answer to your question > just 5 minutes ago or I'd have put it on my "timeline" :-) > > The criteria for the death of bits in FreeBSD from now on, according > to David Greenman, our principal architect and general guy in charge > of tie-breaking decisions when such are necessary, is that it be done > directly by original author/committer of the bits (and not by any > arbitrary 3rd party) unless, and only unless, a *unanimous* core team > vote for its removal is made. Such a vote would be preceded by a 72 > hour discussion period, during which time committers list would be > also brought into the discussion in order to express their opinions, > the final decision still being up to the core team and its vote. I don't like this; it grants any single core member power of veto, and that's a current problem with our system already. If you raise your eyes a few inches to the way that this sort of politicised issue is dealt with in much larger organisations, something like this arises: - The removal of an item should be raised publically, with some closing period for discussions set. I think 72 hours is a suitable minimum. - If at the closing of the discussions, there is a clear mandate for removal, it should proceed. - If there is no clear mandate for removal, the matter should be taken to -core *OR* some other body, perhaps comprised of more active developers. - This body's vote should use contemporary methods; voting requires quorum, and a motion is carried by "obvious majority" - in our case, probably around 60-80%. - There should be a process for popular appeal of a decision; either for an expanded explanation, or for a re-vote. - The adjudication body's discussions should be world-readable. > There will be the occasionally necessary exceptions, of course, > such as when an author designates a proxy to do the deed on his behalf > due to other time pressures, or when something gets yanked for driving > technical reasons (major security flaw, entirely superceded by other > functionality, etc), but this is the basic idea. These functions require the existence of executive power, or corresponding process. The former requires a trusted executive (Americans, look to your presidential history for how not to do this), the latter may be more odious than we are willing to bear. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:12:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22049 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:12:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22044 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:12:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA14387; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:12:08 -0800 (PST) To: Mike Smith cc: Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:05:58 PST." <199812280505.VAA07578@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:12:07 -0800 Message-ID: <14383.914821927@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I don't like this; it grants any single core member power of veto, and > that's a current problem with our system already. I could see changing it to a majority vote, but not much less stringent than that. Remember, this is about *removing* stuff and the historical propensity for our users to scream bloody murder when the furby driver, committed by a demented developer at 3am while under the influence of 7 bottles of cough syrup, is taken out. We want to make it just a little harder than normal to remove existing functionality. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:14:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22205 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:14:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22200 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:14:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA14420; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:13:56 -0800 (PST) To: Mike Smith cc: Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:05:58 PST." <199812280505.VAA07578@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:13:56 -0800 Message-ID: <14417.914822036@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > These functions require the existence of executive power, or > corresponding process. The former requires a trusted executive We already have an executive power for "this has got to happen" sorts of technical decisions - it's the principal architect position, created and empowered by a unanimous core team vote for just such a purpose. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:15:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22401 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:15:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles315.castles.com [208.214.167.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22394 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:15:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07631; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:12:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812280512.VAA07631@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mike Smith cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:05:58 PST." <199812280505.VAA07578@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:12:45 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ... and I should also have made the point that any decision made in haste now will be one that we will regret for a long time. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:20:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22790 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [208.221.12.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22782 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05681; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:20:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280520.VAA05681@implode.root.com> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Mike Smith , Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:12:07 PST." <14383.914821927@zippy.cdrom.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:20:01 -0800 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >> I don't like this; it grants any single core member power of veto, and >> that's a current problem with our system already. > >I could see changing it to a majority vote, but not much less >stringent than that. Remember, this is about *removing* stuff and the >historical propensity for our users to scream bloody murder when the >furby driver, committed by a demented developer at 3am while under the >influence of 7 bottles of cough syrup, is taken out. We want to make >it just a little harder than normal to remove existing functionality. I might mention that the policy I proposed to Jordan didn't say "unanimous"...it didn't say "majority", either, but that's actually what I had in mind. Mike's comment about a quorum is a good one, though, and I think this needs to be a majority of core members, not a majority of those who vote on the issue. Does this satisfy the concerns? -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:21:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22965 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:21:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles315.castles.com [208.214.167.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22960 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:21:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07683; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:18:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812280518.VAA07683@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Mike Smith , Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:12:07 PST." <14383.914821927@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:18:20 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > I don't like this; it grants any single core member power of veto, and > > that's a current problem with our system already. > > I could see changing it to a majority vote, but not much less > stringent than that. Remember, this is about *removing* stuff and the > historical propensity for our users to scream bloody murder when the > furby driver, committed by a demented developer at 3am while under the > influence of 7 bottles of cough syrup, is taken out. We want to make > it just a little harder than normal to remove existing functionality. Actually, a little more careful historical examination tends to indicate that if the users are softened up a little in advance, and perhaps not kept quite so much in the _dark_ about the whole deal, such changes are actually relatively painless. However, you're basically agreeing with my point - it is currently untenable for one of the -core honorarium to exercise their power of veto on an emotional or personal-interest basis. And this is where the alternative body comes in; it needs to be comprised of people who are willing to actually *participate* in the development process, unlike the bulk of -core at this point in time. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:25:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23239 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:25:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23233 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:25:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA27103; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:54:31 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id PAA30375; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:54:33 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981228155433.X12346@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:54:33 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: dg@root.com, "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Mike Smith , Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers References: <14383.914821927@zippy.cdrom.com> <199812280520.VAA05681@implode.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199812280520.VAA05681@implode.root.com>; from David Greenman on Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 09:20:01PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sunday, 27 December 1998 at 21:20:01 -0800, David Greenman wrote: >>> I don't like this; it grants any single core member power of veto, and >>> that's a current problem with our system already. >> >> I could see changing it to a majority vote, but not much less >> stringent than that. Remember, this is about *removing* stuff and the >> historical propensity for our users to scream bloody murder when the >> furby driver, committed by a demented developer at 3am while under the >> influence of 7 bottles of cough syrup, is taken out. We want to make >> it just a little harder than normal to remove existing functionality. > > I might mention that the policy I proposed to Jordan didn't say > "unanimous"...it didn't say "majority", either, but that's actually what > I had in mind. Mike's comment about a quorum is a good one, though, and > I think this needs to be a majority of core members, not a majority of > those who vote on the issue. Does this satisfy the concerns? You might consider somewhere between unanimous (difficult enough to achieve that it might cripple the idea) and a simple majority. How does two thirds sound? Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:27:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23413 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:27:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23408; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:27:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@FreeBSD.org) From: Peter Wemm Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA10005; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:27:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:27:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280527.VAA10005@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/modules Makefile src/sys/modules/vinum Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk peter 1998/12/27 21:27:25 PST Modified files: sys/modules Makefile sys/modules/vinum Makefile Log: Reconnect vinum KLD module and have it build from sys/dev/vinum rather than from outside the src/sys tree like before. Revision Changes Path 1.42 +2 -3 src/sys/modules/Makefile 1.5 +2 -3 src/sys/modules/vinum/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:31:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23692 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:31:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles315.castles.com [208.214.167.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23677 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:31:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07758; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:27:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812280527.VAA07758@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Greg Lehey cc: dg@root.com, "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Mike Smith , Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:54:33 +1030." <19981228155433.X12346@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:27:33 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > On Sunday, 27 December 1998 at 21:20:01 -0800, David Greenman wrote: > >>> I don't like this; it grants any single core member power of veto, and > >>> that's a current problem with our system already. > >> > >> I could see changing it to a majority vote, but not much less > >> stringent than that. Remember, this is about *removing* stuff and the > >> historical propensity for our users to scream bloody murder when the > >> furby driver, committed by a demented developer at 3am while under the > >> influence of 7 bottles of cough syrup, is taken out. We want to make > >> it just a little harder than normal to remove existing functionality. > > > > I might mention that the policy I proposed to Jordan didn't say > > "unanimous"...it didn't say "majority", either, but that's actually what > > I had in mind. Mike's comment about a quorum is a good one, though, and > > I think this needs to be a majority of core members, not a majority of > > those who vote on the issue. Does this satisfy the concerns? > > You might consider somewhere between unanimous (difficult enough to > achieve that it might cripple the idea) and a simple majority. How > does two thirds sound? How would you count that? Two thirds total core membership, or a two-thirds majority of counted votes? Two thirds requires a fairly high quorum count, which is normally appropriate if the body is likely to be partisan or otherwise divided. I was thinking that if core was fairly unanimous on things that quorum should be quite low (50-60%). -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:36:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24102 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:36:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24093 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:36:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA27199; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:05:10 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id QAA30405; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:05:12 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981228160511.Z12346@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:05:11 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith Cc: dg@root.com, "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers References: <19981228155433.X12346@freebie.lemis.com> <199812280527.VAA07758@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199812280527.VAA07758@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 09:27:33PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sunday, 27 December 1998 at 21:27:33 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: >> On Sunday, 27 December 1998 at 21:20:01 -0800, David Greenman wrote: >>>>> I don't like this; it grants any single core member power of veto, and >>>>> that's a current problem with our system already. >>>> >>>> I could see changing it to a majority vote, but not much less >>>> stringent than that. Remember, this is about *removing* stuff and the >>>> historical propensity for our users to scream bloody murder when the >>>> furby driver, committed by a demented developer at 3am while under the >>>> influence of 7 bottles of cough syrup, is taken out. We want to make >>>> it just a little harder than normal to remove existing functionality. >>> >>> I might mention that the policy I proposed to Jordan didn't say >>> "unanimous"...it didn't say "majority", either, but that's actually what >>> I had in mind. Mike's comment about a quorum is a good one, though, and >>> I think this needs to be a majority of core members, not a majority of >>> those who vote on the issue. Does this satisfy the concerns? >> >> You might consider somewhere between unanimous (difficult enough to >> achieve that it might cripple the idea) and a simple majority. How >> does two thirds sound? > > How would you count that? Two thirds total core membership, or a > two-thirds majority of counted votes? Yes. I was deliberately leaving that open to further discussion. > Two thirds requires a fairly high quorum count, which is normally > appropriate if the body is likely to be partisan or otherwise > divided. I was thinking that if core was fairly unanimous on things > that quorum should be quite low (50-60%). If core is fairly unanimous, the value of the quorum becomes less important. My main concern is that when there are two roughly equal bodies of opinion, the result should tend towards ``If it aint broke, don't fix it''. As regards who votes, I've never been an advocate of ``one man, one vote''. I'd be quite happy to leave it to a vote of the core team. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:37:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24227 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:37:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [208.221.12.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24222 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:37:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05896; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:36:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280536.VAA05896@implode.root.com> To: Greg Lehey cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Mike Smith , Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:54:33 +1030." <19981228155433.X12346@freebie.lemis.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:36:24 -0800 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >> I might mention that the policy I proposed to Jordan didn't say >> "unanimous"...it didn't say "majority", either, but that's actually what >> I had in mind. Mike's comment about a quorum is a good one, though, and >> I think this needs to be a majority of core members, not a majority of >> those who vote on the issue. Does this satisfy the concerns? > >You might consider somewhere between unanimous (difficult enough to >achieve that it might cripple the idea) and a simple majority. How >does two thirds sound? I thought about that, but it is difficult to get a quorum large enough to satisfy that requirement. Most of the time only 2/3rds or less of the core team members cast a vote. I won't offer any excuses as to why this is the case. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:40:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24729 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:40:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA24724 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zuVOw-0005ic-00; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:39:34 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA18629; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:38:25 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199812280538.WAA18629@harmony.village.org> To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , committers@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:05:58 PST." <199812280505.VAA07578@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <199812280505.VAA07578@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:38:25 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <199812280505.VAA07578@dingo.cdrom.com> Mike Smith writes: : - The removal of an item should be raised publically, with some : closing period for discussions set. I think 72 hours is a suitable : minimum. And not over a weekend, or national holiday. I was somewhat surprised when I got back from a quick trip over Christmas to see so much removed. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:42:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24916 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:42:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles315.castles.com [208.214.167.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24900 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:42:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07862; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:38:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812280538.VAA07862@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: dg@root.com cc: Greg Lehey , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Mike Smith , Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:36:24 PST." <199812280536.VAA05896@implode.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:38:46 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > >> I might mention that the policy I proposed to Jordan didn't say > >> "unanimous"...it didn't say "majority", either, but that's actually what > >> I had in mind. Mike's comment about a quorum is a good one, though, and > >> I think this needs to be a majority of core members, not a majority of > >> those who vote on the issue. Does this satisfy the concerns? > > > >You might consider somewhere between unanimous (difficult enough to > >achieve that it might cripple the idea) and a simple majority. How > >does two thirds sound? > > I thought about that, but it is difficult to get a quorum large enough > to satisfy that requirement. Most of the time only 2/3rds or less of the > core team members cast a vote. I won't offer any excuses as to why this > is the case. What would be the reaction to the suggestion that failing to vote is grounds for removal from core? Obviously there is room here for formal abstinence, justifiable failure, etc., but the principle being that if core is expected to be a working group participating in the development process, then it needs to act as such. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:45:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA25198 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:45:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25188 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:45:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT root)@rac1.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.141]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id AAA04107; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:44:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT sendmail)@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac1.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id AAA25583; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:44:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by rac1.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id AAA25578; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:44:33 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac1.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:44:33 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: David Greenman cc: Greg Lehey , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Mike Smith , Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-Reply-To: <199812280536.VAA05896@implode.root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, David Greenman wrote: > >> I might mention that the policy I proposed to Jordan didn't say > >> "unanimous"...it didn't say "majority", either, but that's actually what > >> I had in mind. Mike's comment about a quorum is a good one, though, and > >> I think this needs to be a majority of core members, not a majority of > >> those who vote on the issue. Does this satisfy the concerns? > > > >You might consider somewhere between unanimous (difficult enough to > >achieve that it might cripple the idea) and a simple majority. How > >does two thirds sound? > > I thought about that, but it is difficult to get a quorum large enough > to satisfy that requirement. Most of the time only 2/3rds or less of the > core team members cast a vote. I won't offer any excuses as to why this > is the case. > Maybe 2/3rds of the people that reply??? Kenneth culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:46:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA25506 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:46:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [208.221.12.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25501 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:46:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06042; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:47:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812280547.VAA06042@implode.root.com> To: Mike Smith cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:38:46 PST." <199812280538.VAA07862@dingo.cdrom.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:47:35 -0800 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >What would be the reaction to the suggestion that failing to vote is >grounds for removal from core? It doesn't fill me with warm fuzzies. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 21:51:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26012 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:51:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles315.castles.com [208.214.167.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26003 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:51:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07960 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:48:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812280548.VAA07960@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:47:35 PST." <199812280547.VAA06042@implode.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:48:23 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > >What would be the reaction to the suggestion that failing to vote is > >grounds for removal from core? > > It doesn't fill me with warm fuzzies. Any better ideas for addressing the problem? It's clear we need an active, not a passive group. If core isn't open to a cull (understandable), maybe some of this sort of work needs to fall to a different management body? -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 22:02:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26573 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:02:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26561 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:02:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA27290; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:31:16 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id QAA30433; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:31:15 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981228163114.A12346@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:31:14 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers References: <199812280547.VAA06042@implode.root.com> <199812280548.VAA07960@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199812280548.VAA07960@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 09:48:23PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sunday, 27 December 1998 at 21:48:23 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: >>> What would be the reaction to the suggestion that failing to vote is >>> grounds for removal from core? >> >> It doesn't fill me with warm fuzzies. > > Any better ideas for addressing the problem? It's clear we need an > active, not a passive group. If core isn't open to a cull > (understandable), maybe some of this sort of work needs to fall to a > different management body? Hmm. It doesn't make any sense to have a second ``management'' body. They'd just end up fighting with -core members, and it's not as if there are limitless numbers of good people. I agree with David that the idea of compelling people to do something in core isn't attractive, but neither is the alternative. If people don't pull their weight, core will tend to fill up with them (the only way to get things done is to add new people). The more I think about it, the more it looks like there *should* be some obligation to vote. How about an ``inner core''? Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 22:24:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27949 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:24:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27944 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:24:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA24322; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:24:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA23485; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:24:37 -0700 Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:24:37 -0700 Message-Id: <199812280624.XAA23485@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-Reply-To: <14249.914821086@zippy.cdrom.com> References: <199812280444.VAA18298@harmony.village.org> <14249.914821086@zippy.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > ... is that it be done > directly by original author/committer of the bits (and not by any > arbitrary 3rd party) unless, and only unless, a *unanimous* core team > vote for its removal is made .... > the future and also it fits nicely with dictum that "a man should > always shoot his own dog" This is unfortunately a little too close to home, as I just had to put my dog down, but I agree with it. As has been true from the very beginning of the project, the 'committer' is responsible for the code in the tree. However, if the committer leaves the project or 'gives up' responsibility of the code and no-one jumps in to take responsibility of it, then it's fair game to let the Dane's and their axes at it. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 22:30:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28377 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:30:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28359 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:30:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA04393; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 01:28:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 01:28:45 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Mike Smith cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-Reply-To: <199812280548.VAA07960@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > Any better ideas for addressing the problem? It's clear we need an > active, not a passive group. If core isn't open to a cull > (understandable), maybe some of this sort of work needs to fall to a > different management body? What about a different approach to these kind of topics, that are nearly guaranteed to cause controversy, whatever their merit? I would suggest that a call be made, a public call, on a list that's set up specifically for that purpose. Everyone can jump on those people who post to hackers/current/etc on subjects for the, uhh, PLANNING list. It would go like this: 1) someone from core posts a controversial topic, like a request for comment. 2) some time period goes by ... like maybe 1-2 weeks. During this time, no one from core is expected to either read or contribute. This means that the core frustration factor doesn't need to be over-exercised. Anyone posting on a PLANNING topic, to any other list, could be nicely flamed. If the subject line is controlled, their posts could even be automatically eliminated (or have themselves sent a warning message automatically). 3) at the end of the comment period, that appointed fall guy would have to make a summary of everything posted that seemed important. This wouldn't mean everything, the ranters and screamers could be filtered out here. Since it's in one list, getting this, and filtering it, wouldn't be terribly difficult. So far, no one (except possibly one person) from core has had to argue, or even take notice of the harangue. 4) At this point, core reads the summary. A repsonse to the summary is typed up as a message to PLANNING (and probably current and committers) and the action is simultaneously taken. Anyone complaining can either be asked why they didn't post to PLANNING, or read core's response if they did post there. The response, even to pretty radical things, will be far less, as long as people feel they've been listened to (this is true, whether or not the decision goes the way they want it to). Core doesn't have to listen to endless debate, except for the one designated editor, who has to make a summary. Point: I'm not terribly good at naming ... please take the name PLANNING as a placeholder for the name of your choice (it's the function that's important). I'd volunteer to do a summary, as long as you don't catch me during a semester when I'm busy. Might even do it then, beginning of a semester is not as busy as the end of one (and this is my *last* semester!) ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 22:30:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28633 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:30:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28627 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:30:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA24358; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:30:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA23503; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:30:01 -0700 Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:30:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199812280630.XAA23503@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Mike Smith Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-Reply-To: <199812280505.VAA07578@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <14249.914821086@zippy.cdrom.com> <199812280505.VAA07578@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > of tie-breaking decisions when such are necessary, is that it be done > > directly by original author/committer of the bits (and not by any > > arbitrary 3rd party) unless.... Do you have any problem with this portion Mike , and only unless, a *unanimous* core team > > vote for its removal is made. Such a vote would be preceded by a 72 > > hour discussion period, during which time committers list would be > > also brought into the discussion in order to express their opinions, > > the final decision still being up to the core team and its vote. > > I don't like this; it grants any single core member power of veto, and > that's a current problem with our system already. I think the current problem is that we have people who think they have carte-blanche to do anything they feel like. Now, in their defense they often do things that no-one else is willing to do, so it cuts both ways. I believe -core is (and should be) mostly a political forum, not a technical forum. There are too many technical issues that are understood *well* by people outside of -core, and technical issues should be discussed by the folks who are most interested in the technical issues, which in many cases are not -core members. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 22:37:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28966 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:37:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles315.castles.com [208.214.167.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28961 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:37:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA08223; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:34:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812280634.WAA08223@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Nate Williams cc: Mike Smith , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:30:01 MST." <199812280630.XAA23503@mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:34:28 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > of tie-breaking decisions when such are necessary, is that it be done > > > directly by original author/committer of the bits (and not by any > > > arbitrary 3rd party) unless.... > > Do you have any problem with this portion Mike? Part of the problem here is that we are trying to codify commonsense. It's obviously clear that we don't want eg. John Dyson removing all of the VM code in a fit of pique before he quits, but the basic philosophy is sound. I couldn't crystallise my misgivings about this, so I let it lie. > , and only unless, a *unanimous* core team > > > vote for its removal is made. Such a vote would be preceded by a 72 > > > hour discussion period, during which time committers list would be > > > also brought into the discussion in order to express their opinions, > > > the final decision still being up to the core team and its vote. > > > > I don't like this; it grants any single core member power of veto, and > > that's a current problem with our system already. > > I think the current problem is that we have people who think they have > carte-blanche to do anything they feel like. Now, in their defense they > often do things that no-one else is willing to do, so it cuts both ways. This is very true, and we need to find a form where these people can do the things that need to be done, but in a fashion that is deemed acceptable to the community. > I believe -core is (and should be) mostly a political forum, not a > technical forum. There are too many technical issues that are > understood *well* by people outside of -core, and technical issues > should be discussed by the folks who are most interested in the > technical issues, which in many cases are not -core members. Indeed. This speaks again to an executive group outside of core, in much the same fashion that you have a salaried executive under the elected political body in a western parliamentary system. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 22:55:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA00353 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:55:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (sj-dsl-9-129-138.dspeed.net [209.249.129.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00347 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:55:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA52157; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:54:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199812280654.WAA52157@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Nate Williams cc: Mike Smith , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:30:01 MST." <199812280630.XAA23503@mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:54:51 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk If -core members have carte-blanche , then they should be a process for which the users, lets say, mailing list members, are allowed to expell a core member. Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 23:00:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA00604 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:00:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (sj-dsl-9-129-138.dspeed.net [209.249.129.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00599 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:00:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA52236; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:00:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199812280700.XAA52236@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mike Smith , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:38:46 PST." <199812280538.VAA07862@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:00:34 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > What would be the reaction to the suggestion that failing to vote is > grounds for removal from core? > > Obviously there is room here for formal abstinence, justifiable failure, > etc., but the principle being that if core is expected to be a working > group participating in the development process, then it needs to act as > such. Thats sounds great specially if the -core member's vote is recorded. Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 23:03:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA00895 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:03:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00887 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:03:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04505; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:02:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:02:00 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Amancio Hasty cc: Nate Williams , Mike Smith , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-Reply-To: <199812280654.WAA52157@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > If -core members have carte-blanche , then they should be a process for which > the users, lets say, mailing list members, are allowed to expell a core > member. Nope, I DON'T want being in core to become a poplularity contest. No politicians, please! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 23:14:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01489 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:14:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01481; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:14:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA14066; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:13:59 +1100 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:13:59 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199812280713.SAA14066@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: jb@cimlogic.com.au, skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC GENERICupgrade SMP-GENERIC Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, jb@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >I think we should test is the file exists and copy GENERIC if not. >And if the GENERIC file was copied to GENERICupgrade, delete it after >running config. Except this breaks with a read-only source tree (but so does the default for compiling a kernel). >I guess the FreeBSD-labs will be testing all this out? It shouldn just work if GENERIC is consistent with the rest of the source tree. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 23:47:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03340 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:47:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03333 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:47:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA14318; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:49:32 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199812280749.SAA14318@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-Reply-To: <199812280634.WAA08223@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Dec 27, 98 10:34:28 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:49:31 +1100 (EST) Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Mike Smith wrote: > > I think the current problem is that we have people who think they have > > carte-blanche to do anything they feel like. Now, in their defense they > > often do things that no-one else is willing to do, so it cuts both ways. > > This is very true, and we need to find a form where these people can do > the things that need to be done, but in a fashion that is deemed > acceptable to the community. I think that people are getting carried away with emotion. Choosing to draft a new set of rules is a knee-jerk reaction to something that could have been better executed. If a "HEADS UP" message had been posted, Greg would have been able to raise his issues with kld and users of the Voxware drivers etc would have been able to voice their concerns. Having notified people what was going to happen (and dealing with the unpleasant "don't do that you f*ckwit" type emails), the end result would have been much the same. All we need to remind people is that a change that is likely to affect people needs a "HEADS UP" message. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 27 23:49:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03632 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:49:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03627 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:49:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA14327; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:51:44 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199812280751.SAA14327@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC GENERICupgrade SMP-GENERIC In-Reply-To: <199812280713.SAA14066@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from Bruce Evans at "Dec 28, 98 06:13:59 pm" To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:51:44 +1100 (EST) Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans wrote: > >I think we should test is the file exists and copy GENERIC if not. > >And if the GENERIC file was copied to GENERICupgrade, delete it after > >running config. > > Except this breaks with a read-only source tree (but so does the default > for compiling a kernel). We should change config to allow both the path to the config file and the build directory to be (optionally) specified via arguments rather than hard coding them. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 00:13:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05896 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:13:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral-gw.feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05891 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:13:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral-gw.feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA23389; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:12:28 -0800 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:12:27 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: John Birrell cc: Mike Smith , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-Reply-To: <199812280749.SAA14318@cimlogic.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > All we need to remind people is that a change that is likely > to affect people needs a "HEADS UP" message. I agree- but with the proviso that a 'reasonable' amount of time so that someone can say "but, wait....!"- and then discuss it offline as needed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 00:54:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA08352 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:54:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08345 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:54:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/Netplex) with ESMTP id QAA63951; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:53:11 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199812280853.QAA63951@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: mjacob@feral.com cc: John Birrell , Mike Smith , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:12:27 PST." Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:53:10 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > All we need to remind people is that a change that is likely > > to affect people needs a "HEADS UP" message. > > I agree- but with the proviso that a 'reasonable' amount of time so that > someone can say "but, wait....!"- and then discuss it offline as needed. Given the events of the past day, it's clear that this is essential. It seems to me (and quite a few others I might add) that if some advance warning was given, it would have become very clear quite quickly that Voxware and pcvt were going to be a major drama and people are NOT ready to let them go quietly. I've been told by a number of people (including within core) that these two at least should come back, especially since those two were explicitly NOT deleted with -core approval. However, re: LKM's (bear in mind that I have an interest here): 1: It's been pretty obvious for a while that LKM's are on the way out. However, I doubt that deleting the build code without warning is the best way of achieving it. :-/ 2: Deleting the source to vinum has already been acknowledged as being an unintended accident. This is already being fixed up as we speak. 3: KLD's have been installed and used in preference to LKM's for quite a while now. Many people are using KLD's instead of LKM's *already* without being aware of it - a.out kernels included. 4: The LKM loading mechanism has been within an inch of being broken beyond repair a number of times over the last few months and it's sheer luck that the mechanism has remained working. 5: Leaving the LKM loader active is not a good option if we're not building LKM's.. It's inviting disaster if somebody does a manual modload with a stale /lkm. There are interface changes in the pipeline (hopefully) for kernel-assisted thread support that will make all existing LKM's *incompatable* and require recompiling anyway. 6: Converting to KLD from LKM's is pretty easy in general, but there isn't any exact recipe. Basically it invoves deleting the LKM glue and installing a modevent driver instead, based on the examples floating around in the tree. 7: We're coming up to 3.0 branching time and we need to get the LKM/KLD issue sorted out preferably before then. I for one want to make the kernel LKM support an option that is not in GENERIC. (or even, to make the point better, make a KLD module that implements LKM loading - now that would have me chuckling for weeks. :-) ) As far as I'm aware, the only reason to keep LKM support is OSS - and I understand that the 3.0 version (is there one?) doesn't work too well on the 3.x kernel. If we get the rfork/sigshare/etc stuff through, the 3.0-RELEASE LKM won't work on 3.0-current or 3.0.1 anyway. Incidently, I believe the OSS folks could convert the 3.0 version to KLD quite easily, and it would be in there interests to do so since the one KLD works on both a.out and ELF kernels. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 01:23:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA10578 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 01:23:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA10573 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 01:23:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA27680; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:53:21 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id TAA30713; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:53:22 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981228195322.C12346@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:53:22 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: John Birrell , Mike Smith Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers References: <199812280634.WAA08223@dingo.cdrom.com> <199812280749.SAA14318@cimlogic.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199812280749.SAA14318@cimlogic.com.au>; from John Birrell on Mon, Dec 28, 1998 at 06:49:31PM +1100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Monday, 28 December 1998 at 18:49:31 +1100, John Birrell wrote: > Mike Smith wrote: >>> I think the current problem is that we have people who think they have >>> carte-blanche to do anything they feel like. Now, in their defense they >>> often do things that no-one else is willing to do, so it cuts both ways. >> >> This is very true, and we need to find a form where these people can do >> the things that need to be done, but in a fashion that is deemed >> acceptable to the community. > > I think that people are getting carried away with emotion. Choosing to > draft a new set of rules is a knee-jerk reaction to something that > could have been better executed. If a "HEADS UP" message had been posted, > Greg would have been able to raise his issues with kld and users of the > Voxware drivers etc would have been able to voice their concerns. Having > notified people what was going to happen (and dealing with the unpleasant > "don't do that you f*ckwit" type emails), the end result would have been > much the same. All we need to remind people is that a change that is likely > to affect people needs a "HEADS UP" message. If this were a reaction to the lack of a ``heads up'' message, then yes, it would be inappropriate. I see this as an effort to look further than the current (and now largely resolved) problems and to say ``what do we do to ensure that things happen in a planned, coordinated manner''. This also means that there isn't any particular haste in the matter. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 02:04:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13129 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:04:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral-gw.feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13124 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:04:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral-gw.feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA23630; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:04:06 -0800 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:04:06 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Peter Wemm cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: re: the fracas that was "violets in the snow in Perth Amboy" In-Reply-To: <199812280853.QAA63951@spinner.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I had no quibble with the direction being taken- insofar as I didn't have a strong opinion about the specifics. I don't in general use KLMs under *BSD and have not investigated KLDs to see if they would solve persistent device/filesystem/emulation naming/loading/binding issues (which is probably the only area I'd get excited about). So, as such, a "heads up" to me would have elicited a "thanks for letting me know" but not much else. But the principle of headsup was/is important. Even further, a "heads up" with a "pay attention and help if you can" is even better. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 02:08:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13290 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:08:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13280; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:08:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca32-59.ix.netcom.com [209.109.239.59]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA24035; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:07:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.6.9) id CAA19363; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:07:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:07:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281007.CAA19363@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: chuckr@mat.net CC: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Chuck Robey on Wed, 23 Dec 1998 11:50:00 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/lang/jikes Makefile ports/lang/jikes/files Makefile From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk * From: Chuck Robey * I saw your earlier commit on that idea, removing the relative references * to parts of ports. I was trying to figure out why ... is this a * stylistic thing, or is there another reason? I'm not complaining at * all, just trying to understand why. This is to facilitate building with a read-only ports tree. In particular, relative paths will break WRKDIRPREFIX support. And the read-only ports tree is necessary for the parallel build system that I'm putting together to automate package building. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 02:21:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA14723 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:21:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA14718; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:21:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tg@FreeBSD.org) From: Thomas Gellekum Received: (from tg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA11055; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:21:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:21:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281021.CAA11055@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/print/mgv/pkg DESCR Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk tg 1998/12/28 02:21:34 PST Modified files: print/mgv/pkg DESCR Log: Location of home page changed. Submitted by: Brian Handy Revision Changes Path 1.2 +1 -1 ports/print/mgv/pkg/DESCR To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 02:54:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA16882 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:54:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16870; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:54:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA26932; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:54:34 +1100 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:54:34 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199812281054.VAA26932@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, ken@plutotech.com Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/systat vmstat.c Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@lemis.com, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >There is something like iostat(8)'s devices list. Have you tried: > >:only da0 wd0 da1 >(:show is a synonym) > >It will show just the devices you ask for. There's also an :ignore >statement, a :match statement to match against certain types of devices >(like iostat's -t argument). Thanks, I didn't know that. obrien has more incentive to read the man page instead of committing and uncommitting wrong workarounds :-). >The reason that devices in systat, iostat, and vmstat aren't shown in the >order they are specified (if they are specified) is because they are >displayed as they're found. They're found in probe order. That saves an >extra sorting step for each display of statistics. The kernel should try to find a better order. Probe order is biased towards slow isa devices. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 03:06:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA17895 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 03:06:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA17885; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 03:06:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.org) From: Søren Schmidt Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA16841; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 03:06:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 03:06:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281106.DAA16841@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sbin Makefile src/sbin/vinum Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sos 1998/12/28 03:06:21 PST Modified files: sbin Makefile sbin/vinum Makefile Log: Reenable vinum after repository copy. Forgotten by: Peter. Revision Changes Path 1.61 +3 -3 src/sbin/Makefile 1.3 +3 -3 src/sbin/vinum/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 03:41:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20660 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 03:41:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20643; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 03:41:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/Netplex) with ESMTP id TAA64958; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:41:10 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199812281141.TAA64958@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: S ren Schmidt cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sbin Makefile src/sbin/vinum Makefile In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 03:06:22 PST." <199812281106.DAA16841@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:41:10 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk S ren Schmidt wrote: > sos 1998/12/28 03:06:21 PST > > Modified files: > sbin Makefile > sbin/vinum Makefile > Log: > Reenable vinum after repository copy. > > Forgotten by: Peter. Not forgotten, I'm talking with Greg about some larger changes so that we can get it right. (including: "pseudo-device vinum" and possibly rootfs-on-vinum capability type changes) Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 03:44:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA21018 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 03:44:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.42.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA21012; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 03:44:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA53662; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:44:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199812281144.MAA53662@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sbin Makefile src/sbin/vinum Makefile In-Reply-To: <199812281141.TAA64958@spinner.netplex.com.au> from Peter Wemm at "Dec 28, 1998 7:41:10 pm" To: peter@netplex.com.au (Peter Wemm) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:44:27 +0100 (CET) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk It seems Peter Wemm wrote: > S ren Schmidt wrote: > > sos 1998/12/28 03:06:21 PST > > > > Modified files: > > sbin Makefile > > sbin/vinum Makefile > > Log: > > Reenable vinum after repository copy. > > > > Forgotten by: Peter. > > Not forgotten, I'm talking with Greg about some larger changes so that we > can get it right. (including: "pseudo-device vinum" and possibly > rootfs-on-vinum capability type changes) OK, but this brings back the vinum functionality to the state before I accidently removed the bits. By all means proceed with further enhancements. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@freebsd.org) FreeBSD Core Team member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 04:35:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA27230 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:35:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA27225; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:35:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@FreeBSD.org) From: Satoshi Asami Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA25581; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:35:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:35:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281235.EAA25581@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk asami 1998/12/28 04:35:10 PST Modified files: . Makefile Log: Add new target "parallel" which creates a parallelizable Makefile for building all packages. This is to be used in conjunction with the scripts under the "Tools" directory. Note this version has hardcoded paths and other general badness -- those will be fixed later. Revision Changes Path 1.41 +4 -1 ports/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 04:47:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA28416 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:47:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA28409; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:47:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@FreeBSD.org) From: KATO Takenori Received: (from kato@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA26444; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:46:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:46:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281246.EAA26444@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa ccbque.h src/sys/i386/isa/bs bs.c bsfunc.c bsfunc.h bshw.c bshw.h bshw_dma.c bsif.c bsif.h bsvar.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk kato 1998/12/28 04:46:56 PST Modified files: sys/i386/isa ccbque.h sys/i386/isa/bs bs.c bsfunc.c bsfunc.h bshw.c bshw.h bshw_dma.c bsif.c bsif.h bsvar.h Log: CAM support. Submitted by: NOKUBI Hirotaka and Takahashi Yoshihiro Revision Changes Path 1.3 +3 -11 src/sys/i386/isa/ccbque.h 1.6 +195 -144 src/sys/i386/isa/bs/bs.c 1.6 +31 -39 src/sys/i386/isa/bs/bsfunc.c 1.6 +17 -17 src/sys/i386/isa/bs/bsfunc.h 1.6 +1 -1 src/sys/i386/isa/bs/bshw.c 1.6 +1 -1 src/sys/i386/isa/bs/bshw.h 1.6 +1 -1 src/sys/i386/isa/bs/bshw_dma.c 1.9 +50 -25 src/sys/i386/isa/bs/bsif.c 1.10 +11 -12 src/sys/i386/isa/bs/bsif.h 1.6 +51 -46 src/sys/i386/isa/bs/bsvar.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 04:49:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA28506 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:49:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA28501; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:49:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@FreeBSD.org) From: Satoshi Asami Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA26762; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:49:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:49:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281249.EAA26762@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/lang/squeak1 Makefile ports/lang/squeak2 Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk asami 1998/12/28 04:49:18 PST Modified files: lang/squeak1 Makefile lang/squeak2 Makefile Log: Add USE_XLIB. Revision Changes Path 1.6 +2 -1 ports/lang/squeak1/Makefile 1.6 +2 -1 ports/lang/squeak2/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 04:51:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA28768 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:51:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA28763; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:51:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@FreeBSD.org) From: Satoshi Asami Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA26842; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:51:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 04:51:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281251.EAA26842@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11/XFree86/pkg PLIST.stripped Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk asami 1998/12/28 04:51:09 PST Added files: x11/XFree86/pkg PLIST.stripped Log: A stripped down version of PLIST to create a minimal tarball for building other packages. To be used in the scripts in ports/Tools. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 05:01:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29413 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 05:01:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29403; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 05:01:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@FreeBSD.org) From: Satoshi Asami Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA27725; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 05:00:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 05:00:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281300.FAA27725@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11-toolkits Makefile ports/x11-toolkits/Motif-dummy Makefile ports/x11-toolkits/Motif-dummy/pkg COMMENT DESCR PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk asami 1998/12/28 05:00:56 PST Modified files: x11-toolkits Makefile Added files: x11-toolkits/Motif-dummy Makefile x11-toolkits/Motif-dummy/pkg COMMENT DESCR PLIST Log: A dummy port to create a package of static Motif libs and include files to be used as dependencies from other ports. Note you need Motif already installed, and this port won't do anything for you unless you are in the business of building packages. Revision Changes Path 1.13 +2 -1 ports/x11-toolkits/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 05:27:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA01147 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 05:27:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA01142; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 05:27:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@FreeBSD.org) From: Satoshi Asami Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA29875; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 05:27:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 05:27:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281327.FAA29875@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/Tools/portbuild README buildscript checkmachines makeduds makeindex mlist pdispatch portbuild ports/Tools/portbuild/2.2 mkbindist ports/Tools/portbuild/2.2/bindist README delete dirlist ... Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk asami 1998/12/28 05:27:27 PST Added files: Tools/portbuild README buildscript checkmachines makeduds makeindex mlist pdispatch portbuild Tools/portbuild/2.2 mkbindist Tools/portbuild/2.2/bindist README delete dirlist Tools/portbuild/2.2/bindist/files/usr/bin uname Tools/portbuild/3.0 mkbindist Tools/portbuild/3.0/bindist README delete dirlist Tools/portbuild/3.0/bindist/files/usr/bin uname Log: The scripts to allow parallel package building. See the README file in Tools/portbuild for details. Note that this is still a major work in progress. I probably forgot something but I need to go to sleep. At least it works here (most of the time :). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 06:04:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA03457 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:04:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA03451; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:03:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA02643; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 05:57:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 05:57:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281357.FAA02643@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/28 05:57:36 PST Modified files: x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel Makefile Log: Change RUN_DEPEND to BUILD_DEPEND. Revision Changes Path 1.37 +2 -2 ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 06:09:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA03985 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:09:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA03980 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:09:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: (from billf@localhost) by jade.chc-chimes.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25750; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:09:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from billf) Message-Id: <199812281409.JAA25750@jade.chc-chimes.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:09:45 -0500 (EST) From: billf@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded develo pers To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com cc: nate@mt.sri.com, mike@smith.net.au, committers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199812280654.WAA52157@rah.star-gate.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 27 Dec, Amancio Hasty wrote: %% If -core members have carte-blanche , then they should be a process for which %% the users, lets say, mailing list members, are allowed to expell a core %% member. Leaving anything to be 'officially' done by a mailing list is silly. Anyone could create votes as quickly as they could fire off spoofed mail. If you want votes to be larger then the Core body itself, the committers is the next logical step down. Finally, I don't think core members should be removed by anyone but other core members, as far as your argument goes. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 06:20:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05066 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:20:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05061; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:20:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@FreeBSD.org) From: "Dag-Erling C. Sm\xf8rgrav" Received: (from des@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id GAA03968; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:20:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:20:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281420.GAA03968@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/syscons/warp warp_saver.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk des 1998/12/28 06:20:14 PST Modified files: sys/modules/syscons/warp warp_saver.c Log: Save the palette in case syscons doesn't restore it properly. Fix a minor overflow. Revision Changes Path 1.2 +6 -3 src/sys/modules/syscons/warp/warp_saver.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 06:23:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05341 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:23:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05332; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:23:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@FreeBSD.org) From: "Dag-Erling C. Sm\xf8rgrav" Received: (from des@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id GAA04068; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:23:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:23:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281423.GAA04068@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/syscons/logo Makefile logo.c logo_saver.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk des 1998/12/28 06:23:00 PST Added files: sys/modules/syscons/logo Makefile logo.c logo_saver.c Log: One more for the road: Chuck the friendly floating daemon. Requires VESA_800x600 to run. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 06:23:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05563 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:23:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05558; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:23:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@FreeBSD.org) From: "Dag-Erling C. Sm\xf8rgrav" Received: (from des@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id GAA04154; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:23:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:23:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281423.GAA04154@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/syscons Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk des 1998/12/28 06:23:43 PST Modified files: sys/modules/syscons Makefile Log: Activate the logo screensaver. Revision Changes Path 1.6 +2 -2 src/sys/modules/syscons/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 07:10:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08765 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:09:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08760; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:09:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@FreeBSD.org) From: "Dag-Erling C. Sm\xf8rgrav" Received: (from des@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA29648; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:09:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:09:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281509.HAA29648@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/inetd inetd.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk des 1998/12/28 07:09:43 PST Modified files: usr.sbin/inetd inetd.c Log: Back out rev. 1.42 and 1.43. Apply Graham Wheeler's signal handling patch. Reviewed by: jkh & eivind Submitted by: Graham Wheeler PR: bin/8183 Revision Changes Path 1.44 +115 -73 src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 07:54:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13079 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:54:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13073; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:54:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA02397; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:54:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:54:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281554.HAA02397@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/28 07:54:26 PST Modified files: . modules Log: gtk-engines --> ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-engines Revision Changes Path 1.2641 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 07:55:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13299 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:55:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13291; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:55:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA02451; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:54:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:54:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281554.HAA02451@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-engines - Imported sources Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/28 07:54:54 PST ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-engines - Imported sources Update of /home/ncvs/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-engines In directory freefall.freebsd.org:/d/users/vanilla/work/gtk-engines Log Message: Gtk themes engine. Status: Vendor Tag: VANILLA Release Tags: gtk_engines_0_1 N ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-engines/Makefile I ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-engines/CVS N ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-engines/files/md5 N ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-engines/patches/patch-aa N ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-engines/patches/patch-ab N ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-engines/patches/patch-ac N ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-engines/pkg/COMMENT N ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-engines/pkg/DESCR N ports/x11-toolkits/gtk-engines/pkg/PLIST No conflicts created by this import To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 07:57:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13586 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:57:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13576; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:57:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA02689; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:57:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:57:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281557.HAA02689@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11-toolkits Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/28 07:57:44 PST Modified files: x11-toolkits Makefile Log: ACtivate gtk-engine. Revision Changes Path 1.14 +2 -1 ports/x11-toolkits/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 08:14:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14998 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:14:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14987; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:14:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA04113; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:14:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:14:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281614.IAA04113@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/japanese/netscape45-communicator Makefile ports/japanese/netscape45-communicator/files md5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/28 08:14:47 PST Modified files: japanese/netscape45-communicator Makefile japanese/netscape45-communicator/files md5 Log: Follow the change of japanese/netscape4-communicator's version up. Revision Changes Path 1.3 +8 -8 ports/japanese/netscape45-communicator/Makefile 1.2 +1 -1 ports/japanese/netscape45-communicator/files/md5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 08:28:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15990 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:28:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15985; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:28:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@FreeBSD.org) From: Peter Wemm Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA05573; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:28:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:28:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281628.IAA05573@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/vinum Makefile request.h vinum.c vinumconfig.c vinumext.h vinumhdr.h vinuminterrupt.c vinumio.c vinumio.h vinumioctl.c vinumkw.h vinumlock.c vinummemory.c vinumparser.c vinumrequest.c vinumrevive.c vinumstate.c ... Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk peter 1998/12/28 08:28:24 PST Modified files: sys/dev/vinum Makefile request.h vinum.c vinumconfig.c vinumext.h vinumhdr.h vinuminterrupt.c vinumio.c vinumio.h vinumioctl.c vinumkw.h vinumlock.c vinummemory.c vinumparser.c vinumrequest.c vinumrevive.c vinumstate.c vinumutil.c vinumvar.h Log: Some relatively minor tweaks to enable vinum to be built into a static kernel as a pseudo-device. The changes were: - #ifdef DEBUG -> #ifdef VINUMDEBUG - opt_vinum.h for holding above config variable - Fixing up a few stray problems where DEBUG wasn't optional. - config.c -> vinumconfig.c (there's already a config.o) - Other *.c -> vinum*.c (wasn't strictly necessary, but done in case we end up with something else conflicting later on and we might have to have yet more repository copies of files). - include file paths fixups.. (ie: get them all from the kernel tree instead of partly from the kernel and partly from /usr/include/machine) I've spoken with Greg about this.. I hope this doesn't mess him around too much.. Revision Changes Path 1.5 +2 -2 src/sys/dev/vinum/Makefile 1.5 +3 -3 src/sys/dev/vinum/request.h 1.6 +5 -4 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinum.c 1.7 +3 -2 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumconfig.c 1.5 +3 -3 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumext.h 1.5 +15 -5 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumhdr.h 1.6 +6 -5 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinuminterrupt.c 1.6 +4 -2 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumio.c 1.5 +4 -4 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumio.h 1.5 +9 -6 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumioctl.c 1.5 +6 -2 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumkw.h 1.4 +3 -2 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumlock.c 1.5 +6 -5 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinummemory.c 1.4 +11 -7 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumparser.c 1.6 +9 -8 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumrequest.c 1.6 +4 -3 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumrevive.c 1.6 +4 -3 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumstate.c 1.4 +6 -3 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumutil.c 1.6 +4 -4 src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumvar.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 08:31:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16450 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:31:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16436; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:31:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@FreeBSD.org) From: Peter Wemm Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA06048; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:31:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:31:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281631.IAA06048@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files options Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk peter 1998/12/28 08:31:27 PST Modified files: sys/conf files options Log: Config glue for 'pseudo-device vinum' Revision Changes Path 1.185 +14 -2 src/sys/conf/files 1.113 +4 -1 src/sys/conf/options To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 08:32:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16788 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:32:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16783; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:32:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@FreeBSD.org) From: Peter Wemm Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA06166; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:32:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:32:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281632.IAA06166@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sbin/vinum Makefile commands.c list.c v.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk peter 1998/12/28 08:32:39 PST Modified files: sbin/vinum Makefile commands.c list.c v.c Log: Tweaks as a result of having vinum statically buildable in a kernel. Revision Changes Path 1.4 +3 -3 src/sbin/vinum/Makefile 1.3 +2 -2 src/sbin/vinum/commands.c 1.6 +3 -3 src/sbin/vinum/list.c 1.2 +2 -2 src/sbin/vinum/v.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 08:37:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17050 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:37:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17045; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:37:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gpalmer@FreeBSD.org) From: Gary Palmer Received: (from gpalmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA06751; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:37:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:37:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281637.IAA06751@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk gpalmer 1998/12/28 08:37:28 PST Modified files: usr.sbin Makefile Log: Put the i4b stuff under the `i386 only' section until someone fixes up the build problems on the Alpha. Revision Changes Path 1.142 +2 -2 src/usr.sbin/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 08:43:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17608 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:43:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17601; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:43:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@FreeBSD.org) From: Peter Wemm Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA07432; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:43:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:43:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281643.IAA07432@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/vinum Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk peter 1998/12/28 08:43:22 PST Modified files: sys/modules/vinum Makefile Log: Update for pseudo-device support tweaks.. Revision Changes Path 1.6 +12 -6 src/sys/modules/vinum/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 08:48:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18035 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:48:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18028; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:48:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (IDENT:WHAT_THE_HELL_YOU_LOOKING_AT_@d60-077.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.77]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA28191; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:48:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA22283; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:48:16 GMT (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:48:16 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Bruce Evans Cc: ken@plutotech.com, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/systat vmstat.c Message-ID: <19981228084816.A21466@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu References: <199812281054.VAA26932@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199812281054.VAA26932@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans on Mon, Dec 28, 1998 at 09:54:34PM +1100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > >:only da0 wd0 da1 > >It will show just the devices you ask for. > >There's also an :ignore :ignore fd0 fd1 fails. Only fd0 is ignored. Simular for da device. > >statement, a :match statement to match against certain types of devices > >(like iostat's -t argument). > > Thanks, I didn't know that. obrien has more incentive to read the man page > instead of committing and uncommitting wrong workarounds :-). I'm not typing ``only wd0 wd1 da0 da1 da2 da10 da11' (nor :ignore fd0 :ignore fd1) just to get a decent display every time I run systat. I am more than willing to make ``ignore fd0 fd1'' the default over my changes. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 09:04:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19393 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:04:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19381; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:03:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@FreeBSD.org) From: Peter Wemm Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA08975; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:03:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:03:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281703.JAA08975@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src Makefile Makefile.inc1 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk peter 1998/12/28 09:03:50 PST Modified files: . Makefile Makefile.inc1 Log: Dip my toes into the fire and zap the leftover lkm hooks.. It seems they try and recurse if the lkm dir exists for some reason but there isn't any Makefile there. (eg: stray files prevented cvs update -P from removing the empty dirs) Revision Changes Path 1.222 +3 -3 src/Makefile 1.51 +1 -23 src/Makefile.inc1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 09:10:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20130 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:10:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20123; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA19859; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 04:09:44 +1100 Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 04:09:44 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199812281709.EAA19859@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/systat vmstat.c Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, ken@plutotech.com Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > :ignore fd0 fd1 > >fails. Only fd0 is ignored. Simular for da device. There seems to be an off by 1 error. Repeating the last device is an easy workaround. >I'm not typing ``only wd0 wd1 da0 da1 da2 da10 da11' (nor :ignore fd0 >:ignore fd1) just to get a decent display every time I run systat. I'm not typing `want_fd' or `display fd0 fd1 fd1' to get a decent display (with all devices displayed when there is plenty of room to display them all). Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 09:10:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20344 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:10:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20338 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:10:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (IDENT:WHAT_THE_HELL_YOU_LOOKING_AT_@d60-077.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.77]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA28248 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:10:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA22370 for committers@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:10:06 GMT (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:10:06 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers Message-ID: <19981228091006.A22233@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu References: <199812280853.QAA63951@spinner.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199812280853.QAA63951@spinner.netplex.com.au>; from Peter Wemm on Mon, Dec 28, 1998 at 04:53:10PM +0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > 3: KLD's have been installed and used in preference to LKM's for quite a > while now. Many people are using KLD's instead of LKM's *already* without > being aware of it - a.out kernels included. If the commit message had said "hey guys check out kldstat and modstat -- you'll be surprised that you are already using it, so don't worry". > 4: The LKM loading mechanism has been within an inch of being broken beyond > repair a number of times over the last few months and it's sheer luck that > the mechanism has remained working. And this also. Once understading the pain of maintaining LKM's at this point, one can understand and would probably do the same. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 09:27:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21605 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:27:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21600 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:27:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/Netplex) with ESMTP id BAA66672; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:26:47 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199812281726.BAA66672@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: LKM future (was Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:10:06 PST." <19981228091006.A22233@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:26:46 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk "David O'Brien" wrote: > > 3: KLD's have been installed and used in preference to LKM's for quite a > > while now. Many people are using KLD's instead of LKM's *already* without > > being aware of it - a.out kernels included. > > If the commit message had said "hey guys check out kldstat and modstat -- > you'll be surprised that you are already using it, so don't worry". Oh, as David pointed out to me offline, /etc/rc.i386 explicitly modloads the screen savers. I can't do much about that folks, sorry. You'll need to update /etc/rc.i386 from /usr/src/etc/etc.i386/rc.i386. I would like to put a warning in modload that explictly prints a message to stderr saying that LKM's are depreciated and have been replaced by the kldload etc mechanism. I think it's important that if we ship the ability to load *old* a.out LKM's on an a.out kernel, then noise needs to be made or there will be messy accidents. What do folks think about making the LKM loading mechanism a kernel option and having it default to off.. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 09:34:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22550 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:34:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22540 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:34:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac10.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT root)@rac10.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.150]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id MAA12851; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:33:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from rac10.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT sendmail)@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac10.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id MAA17768; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:33:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by rac10.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id MAA17763; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:33:45 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac10.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:33:45 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Peter Wemm cc: obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu, committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: LKM future (was Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers ) In-Reply-To: <199812281726.BAA66672@spinner.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > I think it's important that if we ship the ability to load *old* a.out > LKM's on an a.out kernel, then noise needs to be made or there will be > messy accidents. > > What do folks think about making the LKM loading mechanism a kernel option > and having it default to off.. > I think this is a good idea. It will allow for a transition period from LKMs to KLDs, but, I think it should be in the GENERIC kernel, and should just be an option with the disable keyword. That way, users can choose whether or not they want to have this from install time, and they will know that it is an option. I guess that would require GENERIC to be a.out, but from what I have heard a.out is faster, and KLDs work in elf and a.out kernels. Somebody let me know if this is a good suggestion. Kenneth Culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 09:40:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23328 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:40:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23323; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@FreeBSD.org) From: Warner Losh Received: (from imp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA10880; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:40:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:40:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281740.JAA10880@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/games/seahaven Makefile ports/games/seahaven/pkg PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk imp 1998/12/28 09:40:03 PST Modified files: games/seahaven Makefile games/seahaven/pkg PLIST Log: Portlint: Use MAN6? rather than listing man page in pkg/PLIST Revision Changes Path 1.3 +2 -1 ports/games/seahaven/Makefile 1.2 +0 -1 ports/games/seahaven/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 10:05:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26637 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:05:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26631; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:05:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id TAA28960; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:04:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by campa.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08754; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:43:25 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19981228174324.A8718@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:43:24 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Satoshi Asami , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/ports categories References: <199812242032.MAA10646@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <199812242032.MAA10646@freefall.freebsd.org>; from Satoshi Asami on Thu, Dec 24, 1998 at 12:32:24PM -0800 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 1998-12-24 12:32:24 -0800, Satoshi Asami wrote: > asami 1998/12/24 12:32:24 PST > > Modified files: > en/ports categories > Log: > Add elisp category. Delete some very old ones. You must update the master file src/release/sysinstall/index.c too. -- Wolfram Schneider http://freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 10:10:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27628 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:10:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27623; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:10:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA12158; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:10:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281810.KAA12158@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/news webchanges.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wosch 1998/12/28 10:10:02 PST Modified files: en/news webchanges.sgml Log: Added Sleepycat Software offers the Berkeley Database product. New name and home for the San Francisco users group. This page. Revision Changes Path 1.2 +16 -2 www/en/news/webchanges.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 10:17:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28420 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:17:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28413 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:17:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/Netplex) with ESMTP id CAA67058; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:16:26 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199812281816.CAA67058@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Kenneth Wayne Culver cc: obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu, committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: LKM future (was Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:33:45 EST." Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:16:24 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > > I think it's important that if we ship the ability to load *old* a.out > > LKM's on an a.out kernel, then noise needs to be made or there will be > > messy accidents. > > > > What do folks think about making the LKM loading mechanism a kernel option > > and having it default to off.. > > > I think this is a good idea. It will allow for a transition period from > LKMs to KLDs, but, I think it should be in the GENERIC kernel, and should > just be an option with the disable keyword. That way, users can choose > whether or not they want to have this from install time, and they will > know that it is an option. I guess that would require GENERIC to be a.out, > but from what I have heard a.out is faster, and KLDs work in elf and a.out > kernels. Somebody let me know if this is a good suggestion. Enable/disable generally works on device drivers.. 'options LKM' wouldn't be a driver. a.out vs ELF speed wise are the same.. The executable code is the same, the only difference is the wrapping. Now, it may be faster to load a LKM than a KLD (I'd be a little suprised if this was the case) but it wouldn't really matter since it's a one-off event. What I think you're thinking of is a Linux thing.. They changed from absolute address a.out shared libraries to ELF (pic - position independent code). There is a slowdown there because PIC mode steals a register and makes the compiler code generator less efficient. For the kernel, this doesn't matter at all since both a.out and ELF kld's are *not* PIC. Apart from load/unload speed, there should be no difference at all. There are a couple of other issues.. KLD kernels have an embedded symbol table. Last I heard, this caused some release building problems since the kernel size is a tad bigger. This can be (I think) explicitly overridden at the expense of sysinstall-time kld support. I for one would much rather split the boot disk a little so that the more obscure drivers got moved off to a supplemental floppy and got loaded as needed. This would give us much better long term freedom for size problems. However, the real killer is... How long will current LKM's be useable? Not very long I suspect. The next time somebody changes an include file, the LKM's will become "stale" and need recompiling. Since this has been removed, LKM's will become dangerous. 3.0 LKM's will most likely not be useable on 3.0.1 (or -current). IMHO, we will be doing ourselves and the users a disservice if we let them load LKM's that are guaranteed to be stale and extremely dangerous. > Kenneth Culver Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm Netplex Consulting "No coffee, No workee!" :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 10:26:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29268 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:26:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29260 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:26:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA24056; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 05:26:25 +1100 Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 05:26:25 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199812281826.FAA24056@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu, peter@netplex.com.au Subject: Re: LKM future (was Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers ) Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >I would like to put a warning in modload that explictly prints a message >to stderr saying that LKM's are depreciated and have been replaced by the >kldload etc mechanism. > >I think it's important that if we ship the ability to load *old* a.out >LKM's on an a.out kernel, then noise needs to be made or there will be >messy accidents. I was thinking of leaving the lkm tree in place to install noise generators (either rm the old LKMs or install LKMs that print an update message). >What do folks think about making the LKM loading mechanism a kernel option >and having it default to off.. OK. It's already an option, but defaults to on, and has unifdefed hooks in at least the syscall table. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 10:38:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00628 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:38:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00622; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:38:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nsj@FreeBSD.org) From: Nate Johnson Received: (from nsj@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA14051; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:38:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:38:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281838.KAA14051@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/news newsflash.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk nsj 1998/12/28 10:38:25 PST Modified files: en/news newsflash.sgml Log: Added notice about 3.0's move from -current to -stable. Revision Changes Path 1.106 +8 -2 www/en/news/newsflash.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 11:08:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04553 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:08:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04517; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:08:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nsouch@FreeBSD.org) From: Nicolas Souchu Received: (from nsouch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA17916; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:07:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:07:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281907.LAA17916@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/smbus smbus.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk nsouch 1998/12/28 11:07:51 PST Modified files: sys/dev/smbus smbus.c Log: Rename smbtx to intsmb (IntelSMB interface), the future PIIX4 SMBus interface driver. Revision Changes Path 1.6 +21 -22 src/sys/dev/smbus/smbus.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 11:20:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05881 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:20:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05873; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:20:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@FreeBSD.org) From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA19369; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:20:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:20:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281920.LAA19369@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: doc/ru Makefile doc/ru/FAQ FAQ.sgml Makefile acknowledgments.sgml admin.sgml applications.sgml commercial.sgml hackers.sgml hardware.sgml includes.sgml install.sgml kernelconfig.sgml misc.sgml network.sgml preface.sgml serial.sgml ... Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ache 1998/12/28 11:20:05 PST Added files: ru Makefile ru/FAQ FAQ.sgml Makefile acknowledgments.sgml admin.sgml applications.sgml commercial.sgml hackers.sgml hardware.sgml includes.sgml install.sgml kernelconfig.sgml misc.sgml network.sgml preface.sgml serial.sgml troubleshoot.sgml x.sgml Log: Russian FAQ translation Submitted by: Andrey Zakhvatov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 11:21:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06120 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:21:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06115; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:21:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@FreeBSD.org) From: Matt Jacob Received: (from mjacob@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA19500; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:21:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:21:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281921.LAA19500@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/cam/scsi scsi_sa.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk mjacob 1998/12/28 11:21:12 PST Modified files: sys/cam/scsi scsi_sa.c Log: Force ARCHIVE Vipers to be FIXED Revision Changes Path 1.12 +5 -1 src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 11:22:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06251 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:22:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06243; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:22:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@FreeBSD.org) From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA19656; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:22:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:22:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281922.LAA19656@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: doc Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ache 1998/12/28 11:22:01 PST Modified files: . Makefile Log: add ru subdir Revision Changes Path 1.4 +2 -2 doc/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 11:22:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06294 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:22:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06289; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:22:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@FreeBSD.org) From: Matt Jacob Received: (from mjacob@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA19737; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:22:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:22:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281922.LAA19737@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/isp asm_pci.h asm_sbus.h isp.c isp_freebsd.c isp_freebsd.h isp_freebsd_cam.h ispmbox.h ispreg.h ispvar.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk mjacob 1998/12/28 11:22:28 PST Modified files: sys/dev/isp asm_pci.h asm_sbus.h isp.c isp_freebsd.c isp_freebsd.h isp_freebsd_cam.h ispmbox.h ispreg.h ispvar.h Log: clarify headers;move uninit to outer layer;remove watchdog Revision Changes Path 1.4 +1 -1 src/sys/dev/isp/asm_pci.h 1.3 +2 -2 src/sys/dev/isp/asm_sbus.h 1.9 +3 -69 src/sys/dev/isp/isp.c 1.10 +96 -32 src/sys/dev/isp/isp_freebsd.c 1.7 +5 -6 src/sys/dev/isp/isp_freebsd.h 1.10 +4 -10 src/sys/dev/isp/isp_freebsd_cam.h 1.4 +1 -1 src/sys/dev/isp/ispmbox.h 1.4 +2 -2 src/sys/dev/isp/ispreg.h 1.7 +59 -13 src/sys/dev/isp/ispvar.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 11:24:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06485 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:24:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06479; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:24:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@FreeBSD.org) From: Matt Jacob Received: (from mjacob@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA19953; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:24:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:24:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281924.LAA19953@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pci isp_pci.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk mjacob 1998/12/28 11:24:23 PST Modified files: sys/pci isp_pci.c Log: clarify headers;ansify Revision Changes Path 1.12 +22 -60 src/sys/pci/isp_pci.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 11:33:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07720 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:33:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07714; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:33:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@FreeBSD.org) From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA20141; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:25:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:25:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812281925.LAA20141@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ache 1998/12/28 11:25:43 PST Modified files: . modules Log: add ru-FAQ Revision Changes Path 1.2642 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 12:58:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18288 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:58:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18276; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:57:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) id NAA28325; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:57:15 -0700 (MST) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199812282057.NAA28325@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/systat vmstat.c In-Reply-To: <199812281709.EAA19859@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from Bruce Evans at "Dec 29, 98 04:09:44 am" To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:57:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28s (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans wrote... > > :ignore fd0 fd1 > > > >fails. Only fd0 is ignored. Simular for da device. > > There seems to be an off by 1 error. Repeating the last device is an > easy workaround. Oops, I'll look into fixing it once I get back next week. > >I'm not typing ``only wd0 wd1 da0 da1 da2 da10 da11' (nor :ignore fd0 > >:ignore fd1) just to get a decent display every time I run systat. > > I'm not typing `want_fd' or `display fd0 fd1 fd1' to get a decent display > (with all devices displayed when there is plenty of room to display them > all). Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 12:58:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18574 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:58:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18568; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:58:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA02754; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:58:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:58:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812282058.MAA02754@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/devel/ORBit/patches patch-ad Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/28 12:58:04 PST Added files: devel/ORBit/patches patch-ad Log: Add a patch for glib11d-config. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 13:06:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19508 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:06:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19503; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:05:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@FreeBSD.org) From: Matt Jacob Received: (from mjacob@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA03697; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:05:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:05:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812282105.NAA03697@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/share Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk mjacob 1998/12/28 13:05:48 PST Modified files: share Makefile Log: No more isdn directory, ergo, shouldn't be on the list of subdirectories, etc.. Revision Changes Path 1.18 +1 -1 src/share/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 13:08:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19990 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:08:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles205.castles.com [208.214.165.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19948 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:07:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12525; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:04:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812282104.NAA12525@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Peter Wemm cc: obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu, committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: LKM future (was Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:26:46 +0800." <199812281726.BAA66672@spinner.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:04:54 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > What do folks think about making the LKM loading mechanism a kernel option > and having it default to off.. It is (NO_LKM), and yes, definitely. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 13:18:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21585 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:18:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21580; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:18:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dirk@FreeBSD.org) From: Dirk Froemberg Received: (from dirk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA05119; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:18:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:18:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812282118.NAA05119@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/print/lyx Makefile ports/print/lyx/files md5 ports/print/lyx/pkg PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dirk 1998/12/28 13:18:07 PST Modified files: print/lyx Makefile print/lyx/files md5 print/lyx/pkg PLIST Log: Upgrade to 1.0.0pre6 Requested by: Andreas Klemm Revision Changes Path 1.24 +3 -3 ports/print/lyx/Makefile 1.7 +1 -1 ports/print/lyx/files/md5 1.10 +22 -10 ports/print/lyx/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 13:22:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22105 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:22:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22078; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:22:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.57.0]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA383A; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:21:51 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199812281409.JAA25750@jade.chc-chimes.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:28:38 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: billf@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded dev Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG, mike@smith.net.au, nate@mt.sri.com, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 28-Dec-98 billf@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > On 27 Dec, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > %% If -core members have carte-blanche , then they should be a process for > which > %% the users, lets say, mailing list members, are allowed to expell a core > %% member. > > Finally, I don't think core members should be removed by anyone but > other core members, as far as your argument goes. Ditto... Surely it might be more democrated, but from what I have experienced, I can only amount for 1% of the information that either a JKH, SOS, PHK, Mike, Bill, or others from Core have/know. Severely starting to democrate/veto/whatever this `chain of command' is in my opinion a Bad Thing(tm) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Life is the only Pain asmodai(at)wxs.nl we endeavour... Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 13:35:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24870 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:35:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (sj-dsl-9-129-138.dspeed.net [209.249.129.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24865 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:35:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA60905; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:34:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199812282134.NAA60905@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded dev In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:28:38 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:34:47 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > On 28-Dec-98 billf@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > > On 27 Dec, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > %% If -core members have carte-blanche , then they should be a process for > > which > > %% the users, lets say, mailing list members, are allowed to expell a core > > %% member. > > > > Finally, I don't think core members should be removed by anyone but > > other core members, as far as your argument goes. > > Ditto... > > Surely it might be more democrated, but from what I have experienced, I can only > amount for 1% of the information that either a JKH, SOS, PHK, Mike, Bill, or > others from Core have/know. > > Severely starting to democrate/veto/whatever this `chain of command' is in my > opinion a Bad Thing(tm) > I am sure that peasants love a fascist state 8) Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 13:40:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25600 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:40:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25427; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:39:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA75356; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:38:15 +0100 (CET) To: Matt Jacob cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share Makefile In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:05:49 PST." <199812282105.NAA03697@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:38:15 +0100 Message-ID: <75354.914881095@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <199812282105.NAA03697@freefall.freebsd.org>, Matt Jacob writes: >mjacob 1998/12/28 13:05:48 PST > > Modified files: > share Makefile > Log: > No more isdn directory, ergo, shouldn't be on the list of subdirectories, etc.. Uhm, what ? that directory was just added as part of the isdn4bsd stuff ??? Are you sure that your cvsup is up to date ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 13:44:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26468 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:44:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26461; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:44:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dirk@FreeBSD.org) From: Dirk Froemberg Received: (from dirk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA08250; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:44:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:44:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812282144.NAA08250@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/graphics/sced Makefile ports/graphics/sced/files md5 ports/graphics/sced/patches patch-ab patch-aa ports/graphics/sced/pkg PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dirk 1998/12/28 13:44:41 PST Modified files: graphics/sced Makefile graphics/sced/files md5 graphics/sced/pkg PLIST Added files: graphics/sced/patches patch-ab Removed files: graphics/sced/patches patch-aa Log: - upgrade to 1.01 - drop IS_INTERACTIVE: choose povray support - added MAINTAINER (ports@FreeBSD.ORG) - USE_XLIB - honor ${NOPORTDOCS} - other minor clean-up Revision Changes Path 1.4 +19 -10 ports/graphics/sced/Makefile 1.2 +1 -1 ports/graphics/sced/files/md5 1.2 +3 -8 ports/graphics/sced/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 13:45:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26751 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:45:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral-gw.feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26694; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:44:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral-gw.feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA26323; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:44:00 -0800 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:43:59 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Matt Jacob , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share Makefile In-Reply-To: <75354.914881095@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Well, I did an updat to be sure- and the Entries field said no isdn: quarm.feral.com > cat CVS/Entries /Makefile.inc/1.3/Fri Oct 23 22:15:15 1998// D/dict//// D/doc//// D/examples//// D/info//// D/man//// D/me//// D/misc//// D/mk//// D/skel//// D/syscons//// D/tabset//// D/termcap//// D/timedef//// D/zoneinfo//// /Makefile/1.17/Mon Dec 28 10:32:24 1998// quarm.feral.com > pwd /usr/src/share Oops. I hope I didn't botch something...I'll check again... On Mon, 28 Dec 1998, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <199812282105.NAA03697@freefall.freebsd.org>, Matt Jacob writes: > >mjacob 1998/12/28 13:05:48 PST > > > > Modified files: > > share Makefile > > Log: > > No more isdn directory, ergo, shouldn't be on the list of subdirectories, etc.. > > Uhm, what ? > > that directory was just added as part of the isdn4bsd stuff ??? > > Are you sure that your cvsup is up to date ? > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." > "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 13:49:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27150 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:49:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27136; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:49:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA75425; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:47:25 +0100 (CET) To: mjacob@feral.com cc: Matt Jacob , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share Makefile In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:43:59 PST." Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:47:25 +0100 Message-ID: <75423.914881645@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk It sure looks to me like you cut out a directory I added the day before. In the future check the logs before you do stuff like this, and also in general, don't jump into stuff which is in the process of being integrated without asking. ISDN4BSD is currently the domain of Hellmuth and me exclusively... Poul-Henning In message , Matthew Jacob w rites: > >Well, I did an updat to be sure- and the Entries field said no >isdn: > >quarm.feral.com > cat CVS/Entries >/Makefile.inc/1.3/Fri Oct 23 22:15:15 1998// >D/dict//// >D/doc//// >D/examples//// >D/info//// >D/man//// >D/me//// >D/misc//// >D/mk//// >D/skel//// >D/syscons//// >D/tabset//// >D/termcap//// >D/timedef//// >D/zoneinfo//// >/Makefile/1.17/Mon Dec 28 10:32:24 1998// >quarm.feral.com > pwd >/usr/src/share > >Oops. I hope I didn't botch something...I'll check again... > > > > >On Mon, 28 Dec 1998, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> In message <199812282105.NAA03697@freefall.freebsd.org>, Matt Jacob writes: >> >mjacob 1998/12/28 13:05:48 PST >> > >> > Modified files: >> > share Makefile >> > Log: >> > No more isdn directory, ergo, shouldn't be on the list of subdirectories, etc.. >> >> Uhm, what ? >> >> that directory was just added as part of the isdn4bsd stuff ??? >> >> Are you sure that your cvsup is up to date ? >> >> -- >> Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member >> phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." >> "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal >> > > -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 13:51:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27750 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:51:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27744; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:51:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@FreeBSD.org) From: Matt Jacob Received: (from mjacob@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA09113; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:51:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:51:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812282151.NAA09113@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/share Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk mjacob 1998/12/28 13:51:49 PST Modified files: share Makefile Log: oops- I must have had a mangeld Entries Revision Changes Path 1.19 +1 -1 src/share/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 13:55:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28054 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:55:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral-gw.feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28043; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:55:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral-gw.feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA26406; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:54:50 -0800 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:54:50 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share Makefile In-Reply-To: <75423.914881645@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 28 Dec 1998, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > It sure looks to me like you cut out a directory I added the > day before. In the future check the logs before you do stuff > like this, and also in general, don't jump into stuff which > is in the process of being integrated without asking. With whom? > > ISDN4BSD is currently the domain of Hellmuth and me exclusively... > Sorry. I assume that CVS works. Apparently it doesn't. I checked two separate source trees with an update to see what happened because my builds were breaking. I suppose I should let things get fixed by those who know better before fixing them myself. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 14:05:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29424 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:05:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29387; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:05:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA75517; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:04:14 +0100 (CET) To: mjacob@feral.com cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share Makefile In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:54:50 PST." Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:04:14 +0100 Message-ID: <75515.914882654@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message , Matthew Jacob w rites: >On Mon, 28 Dec 1998, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> >> It sure looks to me like you cut out a directory I added the >> day before. In the future check the logs before you do stuff >> like this, and also in general, don't jump into stuff which >> is in the process of being integrated without asking. > >With whom? Check the commit logs: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/share/Makefile >> ISDN4BSD is currently the domain of Hellmuth and me exclusively... > >Sorry. I assume that CVS works. Apparently it doesn't. I checked two >separate source trees with an update to see what happened because my >builds were breaking. I suppose I should let things get fixed by those who >know better before fixing them myself. That is generally a good idea, or at least try to contact them first... -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 14:10:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00189 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:10:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00183 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:10:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: (from billf@localhost) by jade.chc-chimes.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16303; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:10:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from billf) Message-Id: <199812282210.RAA16303@jade.chc-chimes.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:10:39 -0500 (EST) From: billf@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded dev To: asmodai@wxs.nl cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG, mike@smith.net.au, nate@mt.sri.com, hasty@rah.star-gate.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 28 Dec, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: %% > Finally, I don't think core members should be removed by anyone but %% > other core members, as far as your argument goes. %% %% Ditto... %% %% Surely it might be more democrated, but from what I have experienced, I can only %% amount for 1% of the information that either a JKH, SOS, PHK, Mike, Bill, or %% others from Core have/know. Just a nit. There is no member of core named Mike or Bill. :> -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 14:55:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06539 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:55:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06531; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:55:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mph@FreeBSD.org) From: Matthew Hunt Received: (from mph@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA15630; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:55:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:55:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812282255.OAA15630@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/games/gnuchess Makefile ports/games/gnuchess/files md5 ports/games/gnuchess/patches patch-aa Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk mph 1998/12/28 14:55:35 PST Modified files: games/gnuchess Makefile games/gnuchess/files md5 games/gnuchess/patches patch-aa Log: Upgrade to 4.0.79. PR: 9225 Submitted by: Mark Huizer Revision Changes Path 1.5 +4 -4 ports/games/gnuchess/Makefile 1.3 +1 -1 ports/games/gnuchess/files/md5 1.3 +125 -144 ports/games/gnuchess/patches/patch-aa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 15:03:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07888 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:03:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07883; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:03:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@FreeBSD.org) From: Michael Smith Received: (from msmith@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA16566; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:03:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:03:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812282303.PAA16566@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/i386 db_interface.c trap.c src/sys/kern kern_shutdown.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk msmith 1998/12/28 15:03:01 PST Modified files: sys/i386/i386 db_interface.c trap.c sys/kern kern_shutdown.c Log: Improved DDB_UNATTENDED behaviour. From the submitter: There's something that's been bugging me for a while, so I decided to fix it. FreeBSD now will DTRT WRT DDB and DDB_UNATTENDED (!debugger_on_panic), at least in my opinion. The behavior change is such that: 1. Nothing changes when debugger_on_panic != 0. 2. When DDB_UNATTENDED (!debugger_on_panic), if a panic occurs, the machine will reboot. Also, if a trap occurs, the machine will panic and reboot, unlike how it broke to DDB before. HOWEVER, a trap inside DDB will not cause a panic, allowing full use of DDB without having to worry about the machine being stuck at a DDB prompt if something goes wrong during the day. Patches for this behavior follow my signature, and it would be a boon to anyone (like me) who uses DDB_UNATTENDED, but actually wants the machine to panic on a trap (otherwise, what's the use, if the machine causes a fatal trap rather than a true panic, of debugger_on_panic?). The changes cause no adverse behavior, but do involve two symbols becoming global Submitted by: Brian Feldman Revision Changes Path 1.43 +3 -2 src/sys/i386/i386/db_interface.c 1.132 +6 -2 src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c 1.44 +3 -3 src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 15:20:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10068 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:20:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10058; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:20:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mph@FreeBSD.org) From: Matthew Hunt Received: (from mph@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA18991; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:19:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:19:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812282319.PAA18991@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/news/leafnode+ Makefile ports/news/leafnode+/files INSTALL.mesg md5 ports/news/leafnode+/patches patch-aa patch-ab ports/news/leafnode+/pkg COMMENT PLIST PLIST.nodocs Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk mph 1998/12/28 15:19:55 PST Modified files: news/leafnode+ Makefile news/leafnode+/files md5 news/leafnode+/patches patch-aa patch-ab news/leafnode+/pkg COMMENT PLIST PLIST.nodocs Added files: news/leafnode+/files INSTALL.mesg Log: Upgrade to 2.3. PR: 9208 Submitted by: Tom Hukins Revision Changes Path 1.2 +8 -6 ports/news/leafnode+/Makefile 1.2 +1 -1 ports/news/leafnode+/files/md5 1.2 +6 -16 ports/news/leafnode+/patches/patch-aa 1.2 +21 -327 ports/news/leafnode+/patches/patch-ab 1.3 +1 -1 ports/news/leafnode+/pkg/COMMENT 1.2 +3 -3 ports/news/leafnode+/pkg/PLIST 1.2 +3 -3 ports/news/leafnode+/pkg/PLIST.nodocs To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 15:23:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10481 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:23:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles205.castles.com [208.214.165.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10463 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:23:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13588; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:20:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812282320.PAA13588@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Birrell cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC GENERICupgrade SMP-GENERIC In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:19:14 +1100." <199812280019.LAA13063@cimlogic.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:20:44 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > My own experience with 2.2.6-ish boxes and -current from about two weeks > > > ago has been that the upgrade worked fine. If you can find a way to save > > > some of the upgrade stuff a little longer I think it would be nice :) > > > > I can't see there being much demand for upgrading from the old -stable > > to the new -current. The old -stable to new -stable upgrade will be > > much more important. > > How is old-stable (aout) to new-stable (elf) different from "2.2.6-ish boxes > and -current from about two weeks ago"? AFAIK, the same steps are required. Sure. My point was simply that once we have branched, the update code should go away from -current. I'm all for making the update code in "new -stable" work properly. > The problem is that people commit things without testing the upgrade > procedure. Most people don't have a system that they can regularly spam. Understood. I'm not sure what makes you think that I have time to do it either, of course. There's only one of me, dozens of you, and I have other stuff on my plate as well. 8( -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 15:38:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12537 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:38:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12523 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:38:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA14960; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:33:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdg14958; Mon Dec 28 23:33:23 1998 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:33:20 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: David Greenman cc: Mike Smith , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-Reply-To: <199812280547.VAA06042@implode.root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk how about "always failing to vote"? On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, David Greenman wrote: > >What would be the reaction to the suggestion that failing to vote is > >grounds for removal from core? > > It doesn't fill me with warm fuzzies. > > -DG > > David Greenman > Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 15:38:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12560 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:38:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12554 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:38:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA14884; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:29:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdu14881; Mon Dec 28 23:29:03 1998 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:28:59 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Warner Losh , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-Reply-To: <14249.914821086@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk yeah is this retrospective? :-) On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > So what have we learned? Can you be more specific so that those of us > > not on core will know how to handle things like this in the future? > > IE I want to kill GerbilFS, which is badly rotted, what are the > > criteria for its death and what is the proceedure to make sure that > > things doen't get as bloody as FreeBSD's recent purge. > > Sorry, this is another issue a number of us just discussed and came to > a preliminary ruling on - I didn't have an answer to your question > just 5 minutes ago or I'd have put it on my "timeline" :-) > > The criteria for the death of bits in FreeBSD from now on, according > to David Greenman, our principal architect and general guy in charge > of tie-breaking decisions when such are necessary, is that it be done > directly by original author/committer of the bits (and not by any > arbitrary 3rd party) unless, and only unless, a *unanimous* core team > vote for its removal is made. Such a vote would be preceded by a 72 > hour discussion period, during which time committers list would be > also brought into the discussion in order to express their opinions, > the final decision still being up to the core team and its vote. > > I personally think that's the only truly fair way to go about this in > the future and also it fits nicely with dictum that "a man should > always shoot his own dog" - if someone commits something that turns to > dreck then they should be the ones to clean it up when the time > comes. There will be the occasionally necessary exceptions, of course, > such as when an author designates a proxy to do the deed on his behalf > due to other time pressures, or when something gets yanked for driving > technical reasons (major security flaw, entirely superceded by other > functionality, etc), but this is the basic idea. > > Comments? > > - Jordan > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 15:44:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13317 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:44:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13309; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:44:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dirk@FreeBSD.org) From: Dirk Froemberg Received: (from dirk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA22315; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:44:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:44:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812282344.PAA22315@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/mail/kbiff Makefile ports/mail/kbiff/files md5 ports/mail/kbiff/patches patch-aa patch-ab patch-ac ports/mail/kbiff/pkg DESCR PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dirk 1998/12/28 15:44:05 PST Modified files: mail/kbiff Makefile mail/kbiff/files md5 mail/kbiff/patches patch-aa mail/kbiff/pkg DESCR PLIST Removed files: mail/kbiff/patches patch-ab patch-ac Log: Upgrade to 2.0 Requested by: Andreas Klemm Revision Changes Path 1.8 +5 -4 ports/mail/kbiff/Makefile 1.3 +1 -1 ports/mail/kbiff/files/md5 1.3 +9 -53 ports/mail/kbiff/patches/patch-aa 1.2 +1 -1 ports/mail/kbiff/pkg/DESCR 1.2 +21 -13 ports/mail/kbiff/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 15:58:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15042 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:58:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15030; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:58:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@FreeBSD.org) From: Satoshi Asami Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA24442; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:57:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:57:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812282357.PAA24442@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/japanese/Wnn6-lib/patches patch-ad patch-ac Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk asami 1998/12/28 15:57:57 PST Modified files: japanese/Wnn6-lib/patches patch-ac Added files: japanese/Wnn6-lib/patches patch-ad Log: Fix installation by not requiring "wnn" user. PR: 9021 Submitted by: maintainer Revision Changes Path 1.2 +10 -3 ports/japanese/Wnn6-lib/patches/patch-ac To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 16:04:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16890 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:04:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16865; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:03:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@FreeBSD.org) From: Michael Smith Received: (from msmith@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA21521; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:38:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:38:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812282338.PAA21521@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/net/citrix_ica Makefile ports/net/citrix_ica/pkg COMMENT DESCR Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk msmith 1998/12/28 15:38:16 PST Modified files: net/citrix_ica Makefile net/citrix_ica/pkg COMMENT DESCR Log: Update the port's supporting text and fetch behaviour as requested by Citrix(R) via Michael Richtberg . Revision Changes Path 1.3 +22 -3 ports/net/citrix_ica/Makefile 1.2 +1 -1 ports/net/citrix_ica/pkg/COMMENT 1.2 +13 -12 ports/net/citrix_ica/pkg/DESCR To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 16:05:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17210 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:05:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17193; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:04:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA25768; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:04:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:04:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290004.QAA25768@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf majors.i386 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk jkh 1998/12/28 16:04:48 PST Modified files: sys/i386/conf majors.i386 Log: Reserve cdev 110 for SCSI Environmental Services driver Requested by: mjacob Revision Changes Path 1.58 +2 -1 src/sys/i386/conf/majors.i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 16:13:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18635 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:13:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18630; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:13:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@FreeBSD.org) From: Matt Jacob Received: (from mjacob@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA27128; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:13:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:13:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290013.QAA27128@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/conf majors.alpha Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk mjacob 1998/12/28 16:13:37 PST Modified files: sys/alpha/conf majors.alpha Log: reserve 110 for ses (SCSI Environmental Services) driver Revision Changes Path 1.3 +2 -1 src/sys/alpha/conf/majors.alpha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 16:15:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18960 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:15:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18953; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:15:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@FreeBSD.org) From: Satoshi Asami Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA27293; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:15:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:15:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290015.QAA27293@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/sysutils/xosview Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk asami 1998/12/28 16:15:35 PST Modified files: sysutils/xosview Makefile Log: Include bsd.port.pre.mk before using OSVERSION. Reported by: Leif Neland Revision Changes Path 1.11 +4 -2 ports/sysutils/xosview/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 16:21:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19615 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:21:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19602; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:20:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost (billf@localhost) by jade.chc-chimes.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA11176; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:21:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:21:29 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: Michael Smith cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/net/citrix_ica Makefile ports/net/citrix_ica/pkg COMMENT DESCR In-Reply-To: <199812282338.PAA21521@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 28 Dec 1998, Michael Smith wrote: > msmith 1998/12/28 15:38:16 PST > > Modified files: > net/citrix_ica Makefile > net/citrix_ica/pkg COMMENT DESCR > Log: > Update the port's supporting text and fetch behaviour as requested by > Citrix(R) via Michael Richtberg . I hope(tm) that their lawyers(tm) are happy(R) now(patent pending). - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 16:40:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21929 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:40:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21916; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:40:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stb@FreeBSD.org) From: Stefan Bethke Received: (from stb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA03065; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:40:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:40:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290040.QAA03065@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/net/netatalk-asun/patches patch-ah Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk stb 1998/12/28 16:40:39 PST Modified files: net/netatalk-asun/patches patch-ah Log: pid files where put in the wrong place. PR: ports/9169 Revision Changes Path 1.2 +8 -8 ports/net/netatalk-asun/patches/patch-ah To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 17:13:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24995 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:13:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com [157.147.224.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24990; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:12:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shocking@ariadne.prth.tensor.pgs.com) Received: from ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (ariadne [157.147.227.36]) by bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA25567; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:12:34 +0800 (WST) Received: from ariadne by ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA09976; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:12:34 +0800 Message-Id: <199812290112.JAA09976@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:12:33 +0800 From: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Regarding VOXware - please bring it back. PCM doesn't support two important things for me, these being a) my PAS-16 card and b) mmap'd sound buffers, as used by certain Linux 3D applications (and yes Jordan, these things do matter to some people) Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of PGS Tensor. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 17:16:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25406 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:16:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news2.du.gtn.com (news2.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25400; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:16:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: from cicely7.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by news2.du.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA20229; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:15:17 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely7.cicely.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) id CAA02837; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:15:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19981229021500.49965@cicely.de> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:15:00 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Peter Wemm , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: grog@lemis.com Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sbin/vinum Makefile commands.c list.c v.c References: <199812281632.IAA06166@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199812281632.IAA06166@freefall.freebsd.org>; from Peter Wemm on Mon, Dec 28, 1998 at 08:32:39AM -0800 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, Dec 28, 1998 at 08:32:39AM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > peter 1998/12/28 08:32:39 PST > > Modified files: > sbin/vinum Makefile commands.c list.c v.c > Log: > Tweaks as a result of having vinum statically buildable in a kernel. > The last I know is that the vinum module had to be loaded after / was mountet rw, because it creates nodes and directorys und /dev. Was there an exchange in this behavour? Are there any plans to implement devfs at this time? If theres nobody working on devfs support and if there's no good reason to do later I would try to do it - devfs seems not to be to hard to implement with my current knowledge. -- B.Walter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 17:23:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26076 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:23:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26067; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:23:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA01112; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:52:05 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id LAA32484; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:51:44 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981229115143.X12346@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:51:43 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Bernd Walter , Peter Wemm , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sbin/vinum Makefile commands.c list.c v.c References: <199812281632.IAA06166@freefall.freebsd.org> <19981229021500.49965@cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19981229021500.49965@cicely.de>; from Bernd Walter on Tue, Dec 29, 1998 at 02:15:00AM +0100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tuesday, 29 December 1998 at 2:15:00 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 1998 at 08:32:39AM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: >> peter 1998/12/28 08:32:39 PST >> >> Modified files: >> sbin/vinum Makefile commands.c list.c v.c >> Log: >> Tweaks as a result of having vinum statically buildable in a kernel. >> > The last I know is that the vinum module had to be loaded after / was mountet rw, > because it creates nodes and directorys und /dev. > Was there an exchange in this behavour? No. I don't really think this is going to work properly until we have DEVFS. > Are there any plans to implement devfs at this time? If theres > nobody working on devfs support and if there's no good reason to do > later I would try to do it - devfs seems not to be to hard to > implement with my current knowledge. There are two big problems with DEVFS: 1. There are two very different opinions out there about how to do it. 2. The technical one is how to handle deletions of devices. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 17:35:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26835 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:35:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26828; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:35:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca32-59.ix.netcom.com [209.109.239.59]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25034; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:34:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.6.9) id RAA27834; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:34:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:34:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290134.RAA27834@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: vanilla@FreeBSD.ORG CC: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199812281357.FAA02643@freefall.freebsd.org> (vanilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel Makefile From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk * x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel Makefile * Log: * Change RUN_DEPEND to BUILD_DEPEND. Are you sure? I had to add gettext as RUN_DEPENDS to gnomelibs, as one of the headers are required to compile anything requiring libgnome. If gettext has to be installed on a machine when you compile something with gtk11-devel, then it should be RUN_DEPENDS as well. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 18:00:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28863 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:00:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28858; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:00:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) From: Jesus Rodriguez Cuesta Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id SAA17132; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:00:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:00:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290200.SAA17132@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: doc/es/FAQ FAQ.sgml acknowledgments.sgml admin.sgml applications.sgml commercial.sgml hackers.sgml hardware.sgml install.sgml kernelconfig.sgml misc.sgml network.sgml preface.sgml serial.sgml troubleshoot.sgml x.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk jesusr 1998/12/28 18:00:16 PST Modified files: es/FAQ FAQ.sgml acknowledgments.sgml admin.sgml applications.sgml commercial.sgml hackers.sgml hardware.sgml install.sgml kernelconfig.sgml misc.sgml network.sgml preface.sgml serial.sgml troubleshoot.sgml x.sgml Log: Major revision of spanish FAQ. Update contents to english FAQ. Include accents? (acentos) like á é í ... and replace all "ny" with ñ for become sintactical and grammatical correct. Correct some minor typos. Revision Changes Path 1.4 +15 -12 doc/es/FAQ/FAQ.sgml 1.4 +17 -12 doc/es/FAQ/acknowledgments.sgml 1.4 +299 -288 doc/es/FAQ/admin.sgml 1.4 +54 -50 doc/es/FAQ/applications.sgml 1.4 +40 -36 doc/es/FAQ/commercial.sgml 1.4 +67 -60 doc/es/FAQ/hackers.sgml 1.4 +170 -155 doc/es/FAQ/hardware.sgml 1.5 +324 -297 doc/es/FAQ/install.sgml 1.4 +56 -52 doc/es/FAQ/kernelconfig.sgml 1.4 +97 -92 doc/es/FAQ/misc.sgml 1.4 +369 -342 doc/es/FAQ/network.sgml 1.4 +264 -229 doc/es/FAQ/preface.sgml 1.4 +199 -179 doc/es/FAQ/serial.sgml 1.4 +146 -139 doc/es/FAQ/troubleshoot.sgml 1.4 +125 -119 doc/es/FAQ/x.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 18:06:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29508 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:06:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29499; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:06:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) From: Jesus Rodriguez Cuesta Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id SAA17342; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:06:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:06:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290206.SAA17342@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: doc/es/FAQ applications.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk jesusr 1998/12/28 18:06:06 PST Modified files: es/FAQ applications.sgml Log: Replace 2.2.7 with 2.2.8 and 3.0-current with 3.0-RELEASE Revision Changes Path 1.5 +6 -6 doc/es/FAQ/applications.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 18:18:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00766 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:18:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp (dhcp421.6bone.nec.co.jp [202.247.4.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00746; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:18:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from y-nakaga@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp) Received: from nwsl.mesh.ad.jp (localhost.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp [127.0.0.1]) by chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA20742; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:09:03 GMT Message-Id: <199812290209.CAA20742@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> To: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:12:33 +0800." <199812290112.JAA09976@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:09:02 +0900 From: NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Regarding VOXware - please bring it back. PCM doesn't support two important me too. pcm driver is good; but PCM only, not yet support MIDI, FM synth, .... -- NAKAGAWA, Yoshihisa y-nakaga@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp nakagawa@jp.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 18:53:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03813 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:53:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03808; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:53:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) From: Bill Fumerola Received: (from billf@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id SAA22203; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:53:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:53:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290253.SAA22203@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/contrib/tcpdump tcpdump.1 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk billf 1998/12/28 18:53:09 PST Modified files: contrib/tcpdump tcpdump.1 Log: Remove bogus reference. PR: docs/8430 Submitted by: jkb Revision Changes Path 1.6 +1 -1 src/contrib/tcpdump/tcpdump.1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 19:06:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05086 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:06:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05081; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:06:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) From: Bill Fumerola Received: (from billf@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA24070; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:06:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:06:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290306.TAA24070@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/contrib/tcpdump tcpdump.1 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk billf 1998/12/28 19:06:14 PST Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_2_2) contrib/tcpdump tcpdump.1 Log: MFC: revisions 1.3 through 1.6 -> RELENG_2_2 Revision Changes Path 1.2.2.1 +36 -32 src/contrib/tcpdump/tcpdump.1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 19:35:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07911 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:35:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07904; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:35:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA01716; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:04:17 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id OAA32845; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:04:17 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981229140417.A32838@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:04:17 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Doug Rabson , Peter Wemm Cc: Bruce Evans , jonny@jonny.eng.br, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Use of LKMs (was: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.kern.mk src/sys/alpha/conf Makefile.alpha) References: <199812230532.NAA39231@spinner.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Doug Rabson on Wed, Dec 23, 1998 at 10:30:24AM +0000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wednesday, 23 December 1998 at 10:30:24 +0000, Doug Rabson wrote: > On Wed, 23 Dec 1998, Peter Wemm wrote: > >> Greg Lehey wrote: >>> On Saturday, 19 December 1998 at 23:27:39 +1100, Bruce Evans wrote: >>>>> #define quoting(Bruce Evans) >>>>> // src/lkm -> src/sys/lkm (like src/sys/modules) >>>>> >>>>> Is there a reason to keep the lkm's, now that kld's are working ? >>>>> (Aren't they ?) >>>> >>>> They might still be being used. >>> >>> [Somehow I missed the original of this] >>> >>> What's the current situation for kld debugging? I'm using Vinum as an >>> lkm because I can debug it that way. >> >> It works just fine, with one exception.. With LKM's you use a fixed >> offset to skip the header - 0x20 from memory. With KLD's you have to get >> that from the header: >> # objdump --headers /modules/vinum.ko | more >> Idx Name Size VMA LMA File off Algn >> [..] >> 6 .text 0000915c 000051e4 000051e4 000051e4 2**2 >> CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, READONLY, CODE >> In this case, it would be 0x51e4 as the symbol offset rather than 0x20. >> >> Scriptifying that could be fun though.. :-/ > > Perhaps an #ifdef DDB extra field in struct linker_file which the ELF > backend could fill in with the correct offset? After struggling through the structures, I now understand this statement. Yes, I think this would be an *excellent* idea. Peter? Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 19:57:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10120 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:57:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10115; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:57:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) From: Bill Fumerola Received: (from billf@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA26847; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:57:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:57:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290357.TAA26847@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/contrib/ipfilter/man ipf.1 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk billf 1998/12/28 19:57:16 PST Modified files: contrib/ipfilter/man ipf.1 Log: Remove bogus reference to mkfilters(1) PR: docs/7790 Submitted by: Stefan Eggers seggers@semyam.dinoco.de Revision Changes Path 1.2 +0 -0 src/contrib/ipfilter/man/ipf.1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 19:59:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10543 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:59:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10538; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:59:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gpalmer@FreeBSD.org) From: Gary Palmer Received: (from gpalmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA27305; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:59:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:59:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290359.TAA27305@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/conf GENERIC Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk gpalmer 1998/12/28 19:59:50 PST Modified files: sys/alpha/conf GENERIC Log: Add fxp0. It seems to be Alpha-OK, although I don't have a card to test. Revision Changes Path 1.13 +2 -1 src/sys/alpha/conf/GENERIC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 20:54:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16265 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 20:54:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hawaii.conterra.com (hawaii.conterra.com [209.12.164.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16256; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 20:54:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmaddox@scsn.net) Received: from rhiannon.conterra.com (ppp112.conterra.com [209.12.169.112]) by hawaii.conterra.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA16041; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dmaddox@localhost) by rhiannon.conterra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA00426; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:54:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dmaddox) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:54:10 -0500 From: "Donald J . Maddox" To: Satoshi Asami Cc: vanilla@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel Makefile Message-ID: <19981228235410.A363@rhiannon.conterra.com> Reply-To: dmaddox@conterra.com References: <199812281357.FAA02643@freefall.freebsd.org> <199812290134.RAA27834@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199812290134.RAA27834@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>; from Satoshi Asami on Mon, Dec 28, 1998 at 05:34:38PM -0800 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, Dec 28, 1998 at 05:34:38PM -0800, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel Makefile > * Log: > * Change RUN_DEPEND to BUILD_DEPEND. > > Are you sure? I had to add gettext as RUN_DEPENDS to gnomelibs, as > one of the headers are required to compile anything requiring > libgnome. If gettext has to be installed on a machine when you > compile something with gtk11-devel, then it should be RUN_DEPENDS as > well. In this case, the port is broken either way... Unless '--disable-nls' is added to CONFIGURE_ARGS, it fails looking for a nonexistant libintl.h, and even if '--disable-nls' is added, it seems to want the gettext headers to be installed in the build dir, and fails when it tries to copy the nonexistant ${WORKDIR}/gtk+-1.1.9/intl/gettext.h... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 21:32:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19390 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:32:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA19385; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:32:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nsj@FreeBSD.org) From: Nate Johnson Received: (from nsj@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA08289; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:31:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:31:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290531.VAA08289@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/gallery gallery.db Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk nsj 1998/12/28 21:31:57 PST Modified files: en/gallery gallery.db Log: Gallery entries through the first week of November (backed up due to scheduling difficulties on my part and a less-than-empty /tmp back in Nov.) Revision Changes Path 1.15 +353 -103 www/en/gallery/gallery.db To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 22:08:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22922 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:08:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22902; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:08:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.57.71]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA3527; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:08:03 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199812282210.RAA16303@jade.chc-chimes.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:14:51 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: billf@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded dev Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, nate@mt.sri.com, mike@smith.net.au, committers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 28-Dec-98 billf@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > Just a nit. There is no member of core named Mike or Bill. :> OK, I got overzealous ;) But still, they amount for more knowledge than most of us currently possess with regard to FreeBSD. --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Life is the only Pain asmodai(at)wxs.nl we endeavour... Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 22:12:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA23604 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:12:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23597 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:12:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.57.71]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA7065; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:12:13 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199812282134.NAA60905@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:19:01 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded dev Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 28-Dec-98 Amancio Hasty wrote: > I am sure that peasants love a fascist state 8) That smiley saved ye ;) But seriously, I'd hate to see the legion being able to thwart everything Core throws at them, some of which might even be more clooless than me (and I only reach newbie state by now =P). One of the reasons I chose a BSD derived Unix like FreeBSD was because we have a Core team which acts as some sort of decisionmakers. If we didn't we would be persuing Linux like tatics, which in my opinion is too chaotic for most tastes. regards from a understanding peasant =P --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Life is the only Pain asmodai(at)wxs.nl we endeavour... Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 22:27:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25849 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:27:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25839; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:27:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA15279; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:27:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:27:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290627.WAA15279@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/releases/2.2.8R errata.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk jkh 1998/12/28 22:27:15 PST Modified files: en/releases/2.2.8R errata.sgml Log: Update errata. Revision Changes Path 1.5 +11 -2 www/en/releases/2.2.8R/errata.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 22:34:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26818 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:34:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26806; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:34:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nsj@FreeBSD.org) From: Nate Johnson Received: (from nsj@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA16135; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:34:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:34:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290634.WAA16135@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/gallery prune.pl Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk nsj 1998/12/28 22:34:17 PST Added files: en/gallery prune.pl Log: Script to prune bogus and otherwise worthless gallery entries from the gallery.db file. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 22:35:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26946 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:35:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26934; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:35:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nsj@FreeBSD.org) From: Nate Johnson Received: (from nsj@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA16223; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:34:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:34:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290634.WAA16223@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/gallery gengallery.pl Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk nsj 1998/12/28 22:34:55 PST Modified files: en/gallery gengallery.pl Log: Updated to better handle malformed URLs and to toss out any blank entries that might make it into the gallery file. Revision Changes Path 1.4 +13 -1 www/en/gallery/gengallery.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 22:36:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27063 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:36:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27055; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:36:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nsj@FreeBSD.org) From: Nate Johnson Received: (from nsj@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA16374; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:36:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:36:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290636.WAA16374@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/gallery gallery.db Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk nsj 1998/12/28 22:36:18 PST Modified files: en/gallery gallery.db Log: FreeBSD Gallery entries through 29 Dec 1998. Commercial: 813 Non-profit: 365 Personal: 119 ------------------- Total: 1297 Revision Changes Path 1.16 +383 -344 www/en/gallery/gallery.db To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 23:22:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01797 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:22:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from localhost (ppp18360.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01783 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:22:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tim@hub.freebsd.org) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA52289; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:11:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tim) Message-ID: <19981229001052.C43500@mad> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:10:52 -0500 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Amancio Hasty , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers References: <199812280538.VAA07862@dingo.cdrom.com> <199812280700.XAA52236@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199812280700.XAA52236@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 11:00:34PM -0800 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 11:00:34PM -0800, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > Obviously there is room here for formal abstinence, justifiable failure, > > etc., but the principle being that if core is expected to be a working > > Thats sounds great specially if the -core member's vote is recorded. Ah, the myth that voting is good. I have more respect for the person who abstains from the next election b/c they aren't sure what party to vote for than for the person who votes b/c some advert on TV said "excercise your right to vote". If a -core member doesn't vote, maybe they have a reason... If they never do nothing, they might as well not exist, so who cares anyways? -- This .sig is not innovative, witty, or profund. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 23:23:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02077 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:23:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02072; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:23:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) From: Tim Vanderhoek Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA21823; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:23:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:23:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290723.XAA21823@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11-wm/enlightenment/pkg DESCR Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hoek 1998/12/28 23:23:47 PST Modified files: x11-wm/enlightenment/pkg DESCR Log: Update homepage. Revision Changes Path 1.3 +4 -2 ports/x11-wm/enlightenment/pkg/DESCR To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 23:28:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02278 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:28:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02273; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:28:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA22254; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:27:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:27:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290727.XAA22254@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/release Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk jkh 1998/12/28 23:27:56 PST Modified files: release Makefile Log: gzip the kern.flp kernel, don't kzip it. Revision Changes Path 1.440 +6 -2 src/release/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 23:29:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02512 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:29:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles205.castles.com [208.214.165.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02505 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:29:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16273; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:26:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812290726.XAA16273@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Tim Vanderhoek cc: Amancio Hasty , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:10:52 EST." <19981229001052.C43500@mad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:26:16 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > On Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 11:00:34PM -0800, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > > > Obviously there is room here for formal abstinence, justifiable failure, > > > etc., but the principle being that if core is expected to be a working > > > > Thats sounds great specially if the -core member's vote is recorded. > > Ah, the myth that voting is good. I have more respect for the person > who abstains from the next election b/c they aren't sure what party to > vote for than for the person who votes b/c some advert on TV said > "excercise your right to vote". > > If a -core member doesn't vote, maybe they have a reason... > > If they never do nothing, they might as well not exist, so who cares > anyways? Abstintence is not the same as nonparticipation. But it's a common mistake to make. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 00:08:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05998 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:08:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05932 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:07:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA78165; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:07:36 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA53084; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:07:34 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199812290807.KAA53084@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: Tim Vanderhoek cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-Reply-To: Your message of " Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:10:52 EST." <19981229001052.C43500@mad> References: <199812280538.VAA07862@dingo.cdrom.com> <199812280700.XAA52236@rah.star-gate.com> <19981229001052.C43500@mad> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:07:33 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > Ah, the myth that voting is good. I have more respect for the person > who abstains from the next election b/c they aren't sure what party to > vote for than for the person who votes b/c some advert on TV said > "excercise your right to vote". In this country (ZA), one would "spoil the vote"; you scrawl "screw you" or some such on the paper. This way your ballot cannot be stolen/sold, and you have exercised your democratic right to _not_ vote. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 00:16:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA06960 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:16:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles205.castles.com [208.214.165.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06954 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:16:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA16487; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:11:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812290811.AAA16487@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mark Murray cc: Tim Vanderhoek , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:07:33 +0200." <199812290807.KAA53084@greenpeace.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:11:16 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > > Ah, the myth that voting is good. I have more respect for the person > > who abstains from the next election b/c they aren't sure what party to > > vote for than for the person who votes b/c some advert on TV said > > "excercise your right to vote". > > In this country (ZA), one would "spoil the vote"; you scrawl "screw > you" or some such on the paper. This way your ballot cannot be > stolen/sold, and you have exercised your democratic right to _not_ > vote. Yes, but remember that North Americans like to think that apathy is the way to go. .za and .au and many other .uk colonies recognise that making people vote makes them at least take an interest in what's going on. ... and that's why failure to particpate in -core (or -management-body) business should disqualify you from the body. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 00:20:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07508 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:20:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07503 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:20:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA18365; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:22:50 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199812290822.TAA18365@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-Reply-To: <199812290811.AAA16487@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Dec 29, 98 00:11:16 am" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:22:50 +1100 (EST) Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Mike Smith wrote: > ... and that's why failure to particpate in -core (or -management-body) > business should disqualify you from the body. Tell them what a Donkey vote is. 8-) And disqualify them for that too. Hee-Haw. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 00:20:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07538 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:20:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07529 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:20:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA02767; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:49:50 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id SAA33540; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:49:54 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981229184954.P32696@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:49:54 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mark Murray , Tim Vanderhoek Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers References: <199812280538.VAA07862@dingo.cdrom.com> <199812280700.XAA52236@rah.star-gate.com> <19981229001052.C43500@mad> <199812290807.KAA53084@greenpeace.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199812290807.KAA53084@greenpeace.grondar.za>; from Mark Murray on Tue, Dec 29, 1998 at 10:07:33AM +0200 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tuesday, 29 December 1998 at 10:07:33 +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > Tim Vanderhoek wrote: >> Ah, the myth that voting is good. I have more respect for the person >> who abstains from the next election b/c they aren't sure what party to >> vote for than for the person who votes b/c some advert on TV said >> "excercise your right to vote". > > In this country (ZA), one would "spoil the vote"; you scrawl "screw > you" or some such on the paper. This way your ballot cannot be > stolen/sold, and you have exercised your democratic right to _not_ > vote. Same here. It's termed an ``informal vote'' :-) Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 00:21:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07571 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:21:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07565 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:21:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA02782; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:50:30 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id SAA33558; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:50:34 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981229185034.Q32696@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:50:34 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith , Mark Murray Cc: Tim Vanderhoek , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers References: <199812290807.KAA53084@greenpeace.grondar.za> <199812290811.AAA16487@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199812290811.AAA16487@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Tue, Dec 29, 1998 at 12:11:16AM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tuesday, 29 December 1998 at 0:11:16 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: >> Tim Vanderhoek wrote: >>> Ah, the myth that voting is good. I have more respect for the person >>> who abstains from the next election b/c they aren't sure what party to >>> vote for than for the person who votes b/c some advert on TV said >>> "excercise your right to vote". >> >> In this country (ZA), one would "spoil the vote"; you scrawl "screw >> you" or some such on the paper. This way your ballot cannot be >> stolen/sold, and you have exercised your democratic right to _not_ >> vote. > > Yes, but remember that North Americans like to think that apathy is the > way to go. .za and .au and many other .uk colonies recognise that > making people vote makes them at least take an interest in what's going > on. > > ... and that's why failure to particpate in -core (or -management-body) > business should disqualify you from the body. Because it's like .za or .au? Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 00:29:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA08012 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:29:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles205.castles.com [208.214.165.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08007 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:29:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA16574; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:25:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812290825.AAA16574@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Greg Lehey cc: Mike Smith , Mark Murray , Tim Vanderhoek , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:50:34 +1030." <19981229185034.Q32696@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:25:39 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > On Tuesday, 29 December 1998 at 0:11:16 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > >> Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > >>> Ah, the myth that voting is good. I have more respect for the person > >>> who abstains from the next election b/c they aren't sure what party to > >>> vote for than for the person who votes b/c some advert on TV said > >>> "excercise your right to vote". > >> > >> In this country (ZA), one would "spoil the vote"; you scrawl "screw > >> you" or some such on the paper. This way your ballot cannot be > >> stolen/sold, and you have exercised your democratic right to _not_ > >> vote. > > > > Yes, but remember that North Americans like to think that apathy is the > > way to go. .za and .au and many other .uk colonies recognise that > > making people vote makes them at least take an interest in what's going > > on. > > > > ... and that's why failure to particpate in -core (or -management-body) > > business should disqualify you from the body. > > Because it's like .za or .au? *thwap* No. One problem here is that parts of -core are moribund. The expectation is that -core is performing some sort of management or steering function, but that's not happening. Either core gets "fixed" so that it starts working, or we take those functions away, leave -core as a political body (nice watch), and give them to a body which is constructed such as to ensure it remains active. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 01:02:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA10502 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:02:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA10497; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:02:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@FreeBSD.org) From: Peter Wemm Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA29611; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:02:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:02:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290902.BAA29611@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/syscons/logo Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk peter 1998/12/29 01:02:45 PST Modified files: sys/modules/syscons/logo Makefile Log: Add -I${.CURDIR} since it #includes logo.c from the source dir and breaks when building with an obj dir. Reported by: Quite a few people.. :-/ Revision Changes Path 1.2 +2 -2 src/sys/modules/syscons/logo/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 01:38:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA13169 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:38:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA13164; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:38:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@FreeBSD.org) From: Doug Rabson Received: (from dfr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA01533; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:38:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:38:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812290938.BAA01533@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sbin/mountd mountd.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dfr 1998/12/29 01:38:50 PST Modified files: sbin/mountd mountd.c Log: Here is a patch to make mountd work. It just replace u_long with u_int32_t and shouldn't affect on i386. Without this patch, - unaligned accesses occur - permission denied randomly Submitted by: Hidetoshi Shimokawa Revision Changes Path 1.34 +21 -21 src/sbin/mountd/mountd.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 05:07:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA28639 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 05:07:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA28634; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 05:07:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA21975; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 05:06:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 05:06:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812291306.FAA21975@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/sys ttycom.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/29 05:06:54 PST Modified files: sys/sys ttycom.h Log: follow up to: Pre 3.0 branch cleanup casualty #1: DSI_SOFT_MODEM support. Revision Changes Path 1.13 +1 -3 src/sys/sys/ttycom.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 06:32:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05274 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:32:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05269; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:32:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tg@FreeBSD.org) From: Thomas Gellekum Received: (from tg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id GAA04035; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:32:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:32:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812291432.GAA04035@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/math/numpy Makefile ports/math/numpy/files md5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk tg 1998/12/29 06:32:07 PST Modified files: math/numpy Makefile math/numpy/files md5 Log: Upgrade to 1.8. Revision Changes Path 1.14 +4 -4 ports/math/numpy/Makefile 1.6 +1 -1 ports/math/numpy/files/md5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 06:32:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05521 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:32:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05516; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:32:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tg@FreeBSD.org) From: Thomas Gellekum Received: (from tg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id GAA04166; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:32:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:32:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812291432.GAA04166@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/math/rng Makefile ports/math/rng/files md5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk tg 1998/12/29 06:32:42 PST Modified files: math/rng Makefile math/rng/files md5 Log: New distfile. Revision Changes Path 1.7 +2 -2 ports/math/rng/Makefile 1.4 +1 -1 ports/math/rng/files/md5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 06:45:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06951 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:45:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA06932; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:44:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tg@FreeBSD.org) From: Thomas Gellekum Received: (from tg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id GAA20127; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:44:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:44:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812291444.GAA20127@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/math/pygist Makefile ports/math/pygist/files md5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk tg 1998/12/29 06:44:50 PST Modified files: math/pygist Makefile math/pygist/files md5 Log: New distfile. Revision Changes Path 1.9 +2 -2 ports/math/pygist/Makefile 1.5 +1 -1 ports/math/pygist/files/md5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 07:39:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10987 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:39:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10982; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:39:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wpaul@FreeBSD.org) From: Bill Paul Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA26820; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:39:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:39:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812291539.HAA26820@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pci if_tl.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wpaul 1998/12/29 07:39:36 PST Modified files: sys/pci if_tl.c Log: Fix the tl_start() routine; sometimes the tl_tx_tail pointer was not being updated correctly. Revision Changes Path 1.24 +3 -3 src/sys/pci/if_tl.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 07:41:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11351 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:41:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11346; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:41:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wpaul@FreeBSD.org) From: Bill Paul Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA27087; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:41:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:41:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812291541.HAA27087@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pci if_tl.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wpaul 1998/12/29 07:41:10 PST Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_2_2) sys/pci if_tl.c Log: MFC: fix bug in tl_start() Revision Changes Path 1.16.2.7 +3 -3 src/sys/pci/if_tl.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 07:53:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12460 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:53:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12451 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:53:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA03886; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:52:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des) To: Peter Wemm Cc: Kenneth Wayne Culver , obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu, committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: LKM future (was Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers ) References: <199812281816.CAA67058@spinner.netplex.com.au> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 29 Dec 1998 16:52:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: Peter Wemm's message of "Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:16:24 +0800" Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Peter Wemm writes: > a.out vs ELF speed wise are the same.. The executable code is the same, > the only difference is the wrapping. Now, it may be faster to load a LKM > than a KLD (I'd be a little suprised if this was the case) but it wouldn't > really matter since it's a one-off event. It's slower - it's more or less a function of kernel size and memory size, since you need to link the LKM against the kernel. I once ran an unstripped debugging kernel on a 16 MB machine by mistake. Loading an LKM took half a minute... DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 08:58:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18768 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:58:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18759; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:58:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA01761; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdXH1758; Tue Dec 29 16:57:46 1998 Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:57:43 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/sys ttycom.h In-Reply-To: <199812291306.FAA21975@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I presume that this means that you are disregarding those people who complained because their DSI modems no longer work..... On Tue, 29 Dec 1998, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > phk 1998/12/29 05:06:54 PST > > Modified files: > sys/sys ttycom.h > Log: > follow up to: > Pre 3.0 branch cleanup casualty #1: DSI_SOFT_MODEM support. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.13 +1 -3 src/sys/sys/ttycom.h > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 10:23:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26899 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:23:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26893; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:23:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) From: Bill Fumerola Received: (from billf@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA09308; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:22:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:22:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812291822.KAA09308@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/devel/clig Makefile ports/graphics/g2 Makefile ports/graphics/stamp Makefile ports/net/bnc Makefile ports/net/mtr Makefile ports/www/linbot Makefile ports/x11-toolkits/gtkgl Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk billf 1998/12/29 10:22:59 PST Modified files: devel/clig Makefile graphics/g2 Makefile graphics/stamp Makefile net/bnc Makefile net/mtr Makefile www/linbot Makefile x11-toolkits/gtkgl Makefile Log: Update MAINTAINER to reflect my proper e-mail address. Revision Changes Path 1.5 +2 -2 ports/devel/clig/Makefile 1.4 +2 -2 ports/graphics/g2/Makefile 1.3 +2 -2 ports/graphics/stamp/Makefile 1.2 +2 -2 ports/net/bnc/Makefile 1.5 +2 -2 ports/net/mtr/Makefile 1.4 +2 -2 ports/www/linbot/Makefile 1.5 +2 -2 ports/x11-toolkits/gtkgl/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 10:48:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29064 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:48:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29055; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:48:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mph@FreeBSD.org) From: Matthew Hunt Received: (from mph@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA11868; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:48:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:48:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812291848.KAA11868@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk mph 1998/12/29 10:48:44 PST Modified files: . modules Log: crafty-open-rock --> ports/games/crafty-open-rock Revision Changes Path 1.2643 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 10:49:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29134 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:49:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29128; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:49:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mph@FreeBSD.org) From: Matthew Hunt Received: (from mph@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA11941; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:49:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:49:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812291849.KAA11941@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/games/crafty-open-rock - Imported sources Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk mph 1998/12/29 10:49:29 PST ports/games/crafty-open-rock - Imported sources Update of /home/ncvs/ports/games/crafty-open-rock In directory freefall.freebsd.org:/d/users/mph/crafty-open-rock Log Message: Import of the "rock" opening book for the Crafty chess program. This book is huge; it is considerably larger than crafty-open-large. Status: Vendor Tag: MPH Release Tags: rock_19980707 I ports/games/crafty-open-rock/CVS N ports/games/crafty-open-rock/Makefile N ports/games/crafty-open-rock/files/book-building N ports/games/crafty-open-rock/files/md5 N ports/games/crafty-open-rock/pkg/COMMENT N ports/games/crafty-open-rock/pkg/DESCR N ports/games/crafty-open-rock/pkg/PLIST No conflicts created by this import To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 10:50:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29282 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:50:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29273; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:50:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mph@FreeBSD.org) From: Matthew Hunt Received: (from mph@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA12199; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:50:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:50:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812291850.KAA12199@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/games Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk mph 1998/12/29 10:50:38 PST Modified files: games Makefile Log: Activate crafty-open-rock. Sorted lexically, which is no longer the same as sorting by decreasing size. Revision Changes Path 1.179 +2 -1 ports/games/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 11:16:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01986 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:16:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01978; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:16:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mph@FreeBSD.org) From: Matthew Hunt Received: (from mph@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA15106; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:16:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:16:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812291916.LAA15106@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/net/strobe/patches patch-aa Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk mph 1998/12/29 11:16:39 PST Modified files: net/strobe/patches patch-aa Log: Honor CFLAGS. Revision Changes Path 1.3 +15 -4 ports/net/strobe/patches/patch-aa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 11:17:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02036 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:17:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02031; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:17:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nsj@FreeBSD.org) From: Nate Johnson Received: (from nsj@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA15232; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:17:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:17:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812291917.LAA15232@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/gallery gallery.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk nsj 1998/12/29 11:17:41 PST Modified files: en/gallery gallery.sgml Log: Update ngallery counts. Revision Changes Path 1.42 +4 -4 www/en/gallery/gallery.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 12:36:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09041 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:36:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09036; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:36:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cwt@FreeBSD.org) From: Chris Timmons Received: (from cwt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA20763; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:36:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:36:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292036.MAA20763@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/syslogd syslogd.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk cwt 1998/12/29 12:36:23 PST Modified files: usr.sbin/syslogd syslogd.c Log: Accept "!*" as a valid all-programs tag line as documented. PR: 8447 Submitted by: Gaspar Chilingarov Revision Changes Path 1.45 +2 -2 src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 13:40:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16194 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:40:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16183; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:40:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA25374; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:40:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:40:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292140.NAA25374@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/sysutils/lsof Makefile ports/sysutils/lsof/files md5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 13:40:01 PST Modified files: sysutils/lsof Makefile sysutils/lsof/files md5 Log: upgrade to 4.39 Revision Changes Path 1.31 +3 -3 ports/sysutils/lsof/Makefile 1.25 +1 -1 ports/sysutils/lsof/files/md5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 13:50:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17374 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:50:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17369; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:50:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA26237; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:50:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:50:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292150.NAA26237@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/security/nmap Makefile ports/security/nmap/files md5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 13:50:12 PST Modified files: security/nmap Makefile security/nmap/files md5 Log: upgrade to 2.02 Revision Changes Path 1.8 +2 -2 ports/security/nmap/Makefile 1.4 +1 -1 ports/security/nmap/files/md5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 13:53:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17538 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:53:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17530; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:53:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA26675; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:53:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:53:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292153.NAA26675@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/japanese/netscape4-communicator Makefile ports/japanese/netscape4-communicator/files INSTALL md5 ports/japanese/netscape4-navigator Makefile ports/japanese/netscape45-communicator Makefile ports/japanese/netscape45-communicator/files md5 ports/japanese/netscape45-communicator/pkg PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/29 13:53:23 PST Modified files: japanese/netscape4-communicator Makefile japanese/netscape4-communicator/files md5 japanese/netscape4-navigator Makefile japanese/netscape45-communicator Makefile japanese/netscape45-communicator/files md5 japanese/netscape45-communicator/pkg PLIST Added files: japanese/netscape4-communicator/files INSTALL Log: Update resources. Environment Var. `JA_NETSCAPE_INSTALL_CFG' to force install `netscape.cfg' file. Update manpage `ja-netscape.1'. Revision Changes Path 1.14 +12 -5 ports/japanese/netscape4-communicator/Makefile 1.8 +1 -1 ports/japanese/netscape4-communicator/files/md5 1.10 +3 -3 ports/japanese/netscape4-navigator/Makefile 1.4 +3 -4 ports/japanese/netscape45-communicator/Makefile 1.3 +1 -1 ports/japanese/netscape45-communicator/files/md5 1.2 +1 -1 ports/japanese/netscape45-communicator/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 13:58:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18106 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:58:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18101; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:58:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA27391; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:58:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:58:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292158.NAA27391@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/29 13:58:24 PST Modified files: . modules Log: ja-netscape-navigator-4.5 --> ports/japanese/netscape45-navigator Revision Changes Path 1.2644 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 13:59:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18188 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:59:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18183; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:59:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA27590; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:59:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:59:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292159.NAA27590@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/japanese/netscape45-navigator - Imported sources Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/29 13:59:14 PST ports/japanese/netscape45-navigator - Imported sources Update of /home/ncvs/ports/japanese/netscape45-navigator In directory freefall.freebsd.org:/c/users/sada/work/netscape45-navigator Log Message: Japanized Netscape WEB surfboard. Status: Vendor Tag: SADA Release Tags: ja_netscape_navigator_4_5 N ports/japanese/netscape45-navigator/Makefile I ports/japanese/netscape45-navigator/CVS N ports/japanese/netscape45-navigator/pkg/PLIST No conflicts created by this import To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 14:02:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18426 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:02:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18421; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:02:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA27857; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:01:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:01:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292201.OAA27857@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/japanese Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/29 14:01:56 PST Modified files: japanese Makefile Log: Activate ja-netscape-navigator-4.5. Revision Changes Path 1.173 +2 -1 ports/japanese/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 14:17:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20090 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:17:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20085; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:17:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) From: Tim Vanderhoek Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA29218; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:17:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:17:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292217.OAA29218@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/etc login.conf Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hoek 1998/12/29 14:17:31 PST Modified files: etc login.conf Log: Slightly clarify wording of "Example". Revision Changes Path 1.24 +2 -2 src/etc/login.conf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 14:17:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20270 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:17:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20262; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:17:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA29260; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:17:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:17:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292217.OAA29260@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/www/netscape4-navigator Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/29 14:17:38 PST Modified files: www/netscape4-navigator Makefile Log: Remove the limitation of USE_128BIT Submitted by: Mark Murray Revision Changes Path 1.34 +2 -3 ports/www/netscape4-navigator/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 14:18:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20328 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:18:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20323; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:18:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) From: Tim Vanderhoek Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA29388; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:18:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:18:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292218.OAA29388@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/etc login.conf Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hoek 1998/12/29 14:18:26 PST Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_2_2) etc login.conf Log: MFC: Unlimited defaults (prompted-by: conf/8744 ) Revision Changes Path 1.9.2.8 +281 -211 src/etc/login.conf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 14:19:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20374 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:19:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20368; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:19:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA29499; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:19:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:19:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292219.OAA29499@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/www/netscape4-communicator Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/29 14:19:33 PST Modified files: www/netscape4-communicator Makefile Log: Remove the limitation of USE_128BIT Revision Changes Path 1.29 +2 -2 ports/www/netscape4-communicator/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 14:31:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21879 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:31:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21872; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:30:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA00714; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:30:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:30:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292230.OAA00714@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/29 14:30:51 PST Modified files: . modules Log: ja-xjman --> ports/japanese/xjman Revision Changes Path 1.2645 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 14:31:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21932 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:31:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21922; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:31:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA00749; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:31:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:31:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292231.OAA00749@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/japanese/xjman - Imported sources Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/29 14:31:15 PST ports/japanese/xjman - Imported sources Update of /home/ncvs/ports/japanese/xjman In directory freefall.freebsd.org:/c/users/sada/work/xjman Log Message: Japanized X manual, presented by "The X Japanese Documentation Project". Status: Vendor Tag: SADA Release Tags: ja_xjman_0_2 N ports/japanese/xjman/Makefile I ports/japanese/xjman/CVS N ports/japanese/xjman/files/md5 N ports/japanese/xjman/files/Makefile.inc N ports/japanese/xjman/files/Makefile N ports/japanese/xjman/files/COPYRIGHT N ports/japanese/xjman/files/COPYRIGHT.XJDP N ports/japanese/xjman/pkg/COMMENT N ports/japanese/xjman/pkg/DESCR N ports/japanese/xjman/pkg/MESSAGE N ports/japanese/xjman/pkg/PLIST No conflicts created by this import To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 14:32:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22208 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:32:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22203; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:32:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA00885; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:32:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:32:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292232.OAA00885@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/japanese Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/29 14:32:40 PST Modified files: japanese Makefile Log: Activate xjman. Revision Changes Path 1.174 +2 -1 ports/japanese/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 14:37:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22670 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:37:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22665; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:36:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA01277; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:36:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:36:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292236.OAA01277@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/29 14:36:50 PST Modified files: . modules Log: Fix my module-name's mistake of japanese/netscape45-navigator. Revision Changes Path 1.2646 +2 -2 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 14:45:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23163 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:45:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23158; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:45:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) From: Tim Vanderhoek Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA02321; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:45:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:45:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292245.OAA02321@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/periodic periodic.8 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hoek 1998/12/29 14:45:15 PST Modified files: usr.sbin/periodic periodic.8 Log: Misplaced comma. Revision Changes Path 1.8 +2 -2 src/usr.sbin/periodic/periodic.8 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 14:49:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23755 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:49:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23750; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:49:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) From: Tim Vanderhoek Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA02647; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:48:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:48:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292248.OAA02647@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/periodic periodic.sh Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hoek 1998/12/29 14:48:54 PST Modified files: usr.sbin/periodic periodic.sh Log: Directories aren't executable. Submitted by: Dennis Glatting (misc/9147) Revision Changes Path 1.6 +2 -2 src/usr.sbin/periodic/periodic.sh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 14:54:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24294 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:54:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24270; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:54:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) From: Dmitrij Tejblum Received: (from dt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA03309; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:53:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:53:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292253.OAA03309@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/vm swap_pager.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dt 1998/12/29 14:53:52 PST Modified files: sys/vm swap_pager.c Log: Don't free swap in swap_pager_getpages(): this code probably cause the "dying daemons" problem. (I thought this code was introduced in rev.1.80, but it just relaxed the condition.) Also, kill related "suggest more swap space" warning (also introduced in 1.80). It was confusing, to say the least... Requested by: msmith Not objected by: dg Revision Changes Path 1.105 +1 -23 src/sys/vm/swap_pager.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 14:56:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24660 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:56:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral-gw.feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24655 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:56:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral-gw.feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA30091 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:55:53 -0800 Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:55:52 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: this part of the build's been broken for a couple of days... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk And rather than leap in and 'fix it' I'll just mention it: ===> sys/modules/vinum @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/alpha/include sh /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../kern/vnode_if.sh /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../kern/vnode_if.src make: don't know how to make vinumhdr.h. Stop *** Error code 2 Should I just fix it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 15:13:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26085 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:13:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peedub.muc.de (newpc.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26052; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:12:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.9.1/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA70186; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:48:24 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199812292248.XAA70186@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin Makefile src/sys/net if_sppp.h if_spppsubr.c src/usr.sbin/spppcontrol Makefile spppcontrol.8 spppcontrol.c Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:30:50 PST." <199812272130.NAA21915@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:48:24 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Poul-Henning Kamp writes: >phk 1998/12/27 13:30:50 PST > > Modified files: > usr.sbin Makefile > sys/net if_sppp.h if_spppsubr.c > Added files: > usr.sbin/spppcontrol Makefile spppcontrol.8 spppcontrol.c > Log: > Update sppp support to i4b level. This includes the new spppcontrol > program to set PPP options like authentication with. > what about this code from sppp_ipcp_RCR() in the i4b source ? This actually _uses_ gotmyaddr which appears in a few places in the committted code. I added this because some ISPs actually send the user's IP address a little early. Note that there are some other changes required to set the IPCP_MYADDR_DYN flag. Jo"rg left this code fragment out because he didn't understand what it was doing and I had a short e-mail discussion about it with him but he never committed it. if (!(sp->ipcp.flags & IPCP_MYADDR_SEEN) && (sp->ipcp.flags & IPCP_MYADDR_DYN)) { /* * hopefully this is our address !! */ if (debug) addlog("[wantmyaddr %s] ", sppp_dotted_quad(desiredaddr)); /* * When doing dynamic address assignment, * we accept his offer. Otherwise, we * ignore it and thus continue to negotiate * our already existing value. */ sppp_set_ip_addr(sp, desiredaddr); if (debug) addlog("[agree] "); sp->ipcp.flags |= IPCP_MYADDR_SEEN; gotmyaddr++; continue; } else { I can commit this if there are no disagreements. --- Gary Jennejohn Home - garyj@muc.de Work - garyj@fkr.dec.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 15:15:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26271 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:15:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26251; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:14:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cwt@FreeBSD.org) From: Chris Timmons Received: (from cwt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA05731; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:14:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:14:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292314.PAA05731@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/syslogd syslogd.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk cwt 1998/12/29 15:14:50 PST Modified files: usr.sbin/syslogd syslogd.c Log: Ensure a terminating null when processing hostname strings from arbitrary sources. Obtained from: OpenBSD Revision Changes Path 1.46 +7 -4 src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 15:18:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26584 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:18:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26506; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:17:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA84621; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:16:23 +0100 (CET) To: Gary Jennejohn cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin Makefile src/sys/net if_sppp.h if_spppsubr.c src/usr.sbin/spppcontrol Makefile spppcontrol.8 spppcontrol.c In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:48:24 +0100." <199812292248.XAA70186@peedub.muc.de> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:16:23 +0100 Message-ID: <84619.914973383@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <199812292248.XAA70186@peedub.muc.de>, Gary Jennejohn writes: >Poul-Henning Kamp writes: >>phk 1998/12/27 13:30:50 PST >> >> Modified files: >> usr.sbin Makefile >> sys/net if_sppp.h if_spppsubr.c >> Added files: >> usr.sbin/spppcontrol Makefile spppcontrol.8 spppcontrol.c >> Log: >> Update sppp support to i4b level. This includes the new spppcontrol >> program to set PPP options like authentication with. >> > >what about this code from sppp_ipcp_RCR() in the i4b source ? This actually >_uses_ gotmyaddr which appears in a few places in the committted code. >I added this because some ISPs actually send the user's IP address a >little early. It was wrong. It meant that we would steal the other ends IP address. The address in an RCR is their address. We can only get our address from a NAK packet. If they don't send us our address, we must ask for it by proposing 0.0.0.0, which they should NAK with the address they want us to use. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 15:22:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26957 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:22:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26951; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:22:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nsj@FreeBSD.org) From: Nate Johnson Received: (from nsj@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA06391; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:22:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:22:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292322.PAA06391@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/news newsflash.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk nsj 1998/12/29 15:22:26 PST Modified files: en/news newsflash.sgml Log: Space police. Revision Changes Path 1.107 +5 -5 www/en/news/newsflash.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 15:50:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29647 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:50:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral-gw.feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29500 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:49:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral-gw.feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA30220 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:49:34 -0800 Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:49:34 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: this part of the build's been broken for a couple of days... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I'm sorry. I apologize. I'm an idiot. I was mounting a stale source tree. Mea maxima culpa. On Tue, 29 Dec 1998, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > And rather than leap in and 'fix it' I'll just mention it: > > ===> sys/modules/vinum > @ -> /usr/src/sys > machine -> /usr/src/sys/alpha/include > sh /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../kern/vnode_if.sh > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../kern/vnode_if.src > make: don't know how to make vinumhdr.h. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Should I just fix it? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 15:52:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29890 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:52:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29884; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:52:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@FreeBSD.org) From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA09359; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:52:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:52:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812292352.PAA09359@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/www/lynx-current Makefile ports/www/lynx-current/files md5 ports/www/lynx-current/pkg PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ache 1998/12/29 15:52:18 PST Modified files: www/lynx-current Makefile www/lynx-current/files md5 www/lynx-current/pkg PLIST Log: upgrade to 2.8.2dev.12 Revision Changes Path 1.95 +5 -5 ports/www/lynx-current/Makefile 1.134 +1 -1 ports/www/lynx-current/files/md5 1.15 +2 -0 ports/www/lynx-current/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 16:16:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03619 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:16:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03614; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:16:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@FreeBSD.org) From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA12349; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:16:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:16:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300016.QAA12349@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/misc/screen Makefile ports/misc/screen/files md5 ports/misc/screen/pkg PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ache 1998/12/29 16:16:43 PST Modified files: misc/screen Makefile misc/screen/files md5 misc/screen/pkg PLIST Log: upgrade to 3.7.6 Revision Changes Path 1.19 +3 -3 ports/misc/screen/Makefile 1.6 +1 -1 ports/misc/screen/files/md5 1.14 +1 -1 ports/misc/screen/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 16:37:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05593 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:37:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05588; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:37:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) From: Tim Vanderhoek Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA14624; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:37:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:37:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300037.QAA14624@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa if_le.c ppc.c src/sys/nfs nfs_socket.c src/sys/pci if_de.c ncr.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hoek 1998/12/29 16:37:44 PST Modified files: sys/i386/isa if_le.c ppc.c sys/nfs nfs_socket.c sys/pci if_de.c ncr.c Log: Silence -Wtrigraph. Submitted by: Bradley Dunn (pr: kern/8817) Revision Changes Path 1.49 +2 -2 src/sys/i386/isa/if_le.c 1.13 +2 -2 src/sys/i386/isa/ppc.c 1.49 +4 -4 src/sys/nfs/nfs_socket.c 1.93 +2 -2 src/sys/pci/if_de.c 1.141 +3 -3 src/sys/pci/ncr.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 17:21:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09878 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:21:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09870; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:21:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) From: Tim Vanderhoek Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA19477; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:21:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:21:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300121.RAA19477@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/devel/portcheckout/pkg DESCR Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hoek 1998/12/29 17:21:00 PST Modified files: devel/portcheckout/pkg DESCR Log: manpage != DESCR Revision Changes Path 1.2 +7 -42 ports/devel/portcheckout/pkg/DESCR To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 17:22:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10210 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:22:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10205; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:22:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) From: Tim Vanderhoek Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA19694; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:22:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:22:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300122.RAA19694@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/devel/portcheckout Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hoek 1998/12/29 17:22:28 PST Modified files: devel/portcheckout Makefile Log: Fix MANCOMPRESSED (=maybe) and work on standard -current. Revision Changes Path 1.4 +7 -3 ports/devel/portcheckout/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 17:48:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12974 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:48:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12969 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:48:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA10802; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:48:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:48:16 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons To: Matthew Jacob cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: this part of the build's been broken for a couple of days... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Ahem, you're going to have to do better than that to earn a pointy hat or other public disgrace around here :) On Tue, 29 Dec 1998, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > I'm sorry. I apologize. I'm an idiot. I was mounting a stale source tree. > Mea maxima culpa. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 19:05:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19780 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:05:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19775; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:05:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) From: Bill Fumerola Received: (from billf@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA00502; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:05:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:05:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300305.TAA00502@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: doc/handbook kernelconfig.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk billf 1998/12/29 19:05:41 PST Modified files: handbook kernelconfig.sgml Log: Clarify the installation of kernel sources. PR: docs/8361 Submitted by: Jim Mock jim@phrantic.phear.net Revision Changes Path 1.33 +5 -4 doc/handbook/kernelconfig.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 19:56:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24319 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:56:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24313; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:56:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA03135; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:56:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:56:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300356.TAA03135@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/net/citrix_ica Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 19:56:28 PST Modified files: net/citrix_ica Makefile Log: Some how this got formated as a text paragraph w/line breaks at column 80. Revision Changes Path 1.4 +5 -9 ports/net/citrix_ica/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:09:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25676 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:09:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25671; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:09:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) From: Bill Fumerola Received: (from billf@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA03913; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:09:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:09:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300409.UAA03913@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/contrib/ipfilter/ipsend ipsend.5 src/contrib/ipfilter/man ipf.5 ipf.8 ipfilter.5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk billf 1998/12/29 20:09:22 PST Modified files: contrib/ipfilter/ipsend ipsend.5 contrib/ipfilter/man ipf.5 ipf.8 ipfilter.5 Log: remove non-existant references, correct spelling errors. PR: docs/7963, docs/7790 Submitted by: Stefan Eggers seggers@semyam.dinoco.de Norihiro Kumagai kuma@jp.freebsd.org Revision Changes Path 1.2 +5 -2 src/contrib/ipfilter/ipsend/ipsend.5 1.3 +1 -1 src/contrib/ipfilter/man/ipf.5 1.2 +19 -5 src/contrib/ipfilter/man/ipf.8 1.2 +1 -1 src/contrib/ipfilter/man/ipfilter.5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:27:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27527 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:27:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27522; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:26:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA04772; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:26:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:26:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300426.UAA04772@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 20:26:47 PST Modified files: . modules Log: dlx --> ports/emulators/dlx Revision Changes Path 1.2647 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:27:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27761 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:27:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27756; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:27:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA04854; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:27:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:27:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300427.UAA04854@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/emulators/dlx - Imported sources Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 20:27:22 PST ports/emulators/dlx - Imported sources Update of /home/ncvs/ports/emulators/dlx In directory freefall.freebsd.org:/d/users/obrien/READY/dlx Log Message: Simular and compiler for Hennessy and Patterson's MIPS-like RISC DLX architecture. Status: Vendor Tag: OBRIEN Release Tags: dlx_2_0 N ports/emulators/dlx/Makefile I ports/emulators/dlx/CVS N ports/emulators/dlx/pkg/COMMENT N ports/emulators/dlx/pkg/DESCR N ports/emulators/dlx/pkg/PLIST N ports/emulators/dlx/files/md5 N ports/emulators/dlx/patches/patch-ba N ports/emulators/dlx/patches/patch-bb N ports/emulators/dlx/patches/patch-bc N ports/emulators/dlx/patches/patch-aa N ports/emulators/dlx/patches/patch-ac N ports/emulators/dlx/patches/patch-ab N ports/emulators/dlx/patches/patch-bd No conflicts created by this import To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:29:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27914 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:29:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27909; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:29:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA05005; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:28:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:28:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300428.UAA05005@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 20:28:52 PST Modified files: . modules Log: hbiff --> ports/mail/hbiff Revision Changes Path 1.2648 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:29:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27961 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:29:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27955; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:29:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA05142; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:29:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:29:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300429.UAA05142@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/mail/hbiff - Imported sources Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 20:29:38 PST ports/mail/hbiff - Imported sources Update of /home/ncvs/ports/mail/hbiff In directory freefall.freebsd.org:/d/users/obrien/READY/hbiff Log Message: Replacement for xbiff that flashes when new mail arrives like the traditional xbiff. In addition, if you click on the hbiff icon, a window will popup showing the mail headers. This makes hbiff better than xlbiff where privacy is an issue since the headers are only displayed when you request. Status: Vendor Tag: OBRIEN Release Tags: hbiff_1_2 N ports/mail/hbiff/Makefile I ports/mail/hbiff/CVS N ports/mail/hbiff/patches/patch-01 N ports/mail/hbiff/files/md5 N ports/mail/hbiff/pkg/COMMENT N ports/mail/hbiff/pkg/PLIST N ports/mail/hbiff/pkg/DESCR No conflicts created by this import To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:30:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28150 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:30:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28145; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:30:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA05218; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:30:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:30:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300430.UAA05218@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 20:30:42 PST Modified files: . modules Log: relay --> ports/net/relay Revision Changes Path 1.2649 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:30:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28182 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:30:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28175; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:30:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA05234; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:30:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:30:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300430.UAA05234@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/net/relay - Imported sources Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 20:30:48 PST ports/net/relay - Imported sources Update of /home/ncvs/ports/net/relay In directory freefall.freebsd.org:/d/users/obrien/READY/relay Log Message: Relay is a very simple proxy that can be used for building simple firewalls. telnet, ftp, and finger client rappers are provided. Status: Vendor Tag: OBRIEN Release Tags: relay_1_10 N ports/net/relay/Makefile I ports/net/relay/CVS N ports/net/relay/files/md5 N ports/net/relay/patches/patch-01 N ports/net/relay/patches/patch-02 N ports/net/relay/pkg/COMMENT N ports/net/relay/pkg/DESCR N ports/net/relay/pkg/PLIST No conflicts created by this import To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:31:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28300 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:31:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28292; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:31:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA05318; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:31:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:31:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300431.UAA05318@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 20:31:36 PST Modified files: . modules Log: bounce --> ports/net/bounce Revision Changes Path 1.2650 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:33:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28530 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:33:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28520; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:33:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA05449; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:32:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:32:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300432.UAA05449@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 20:32:47 PST Modified files: . modules Log: telserv --> ports/net/telserv Revision Changes Path 1.2651 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:33:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28545 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:33:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28523; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:33:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA05474; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:32:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:32:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300432.UAA05474@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/net/telserv - Imported sources Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 20:32:57 PST ports/net/telserv - Imported sources Update of /home/ncvs/ports/net/telserv In directory freefall.freebsd.org:/d/users/obrien/READY/telserv Log Message: A telnet server (using the telnet protocol) analogous to the unix talk command that allows the equivalent of talk requests via telnet. Status: Vendor Tag: OBRIEN Release Tags: telserv_1_0 N ports/net/telserv/Makefile I ports/net/telserv/CVS N ports/net/telserv/files/md5 N ports/net/telserv/pkg/DESCR N ports/net/telserv/pkg/COMMENT N ports/net/telserv/pkg/PLIST No conflicts created by this import To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:34:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28587 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:34:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28582; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:34:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA05545; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:34:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:34:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300434.UAA05545@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/net Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 20:34:01 PST Modified files: net Makefile Log: turnon bounce,relay,telserv Revision Changes Path 1.214 +4 -1 ports/net/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:34:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28623 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:34:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28618; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:34:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA05588; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:34:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:34:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300434.UAA05588@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/emulators Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 20:34:28 PST Modified files: emulators Makefile Log: turn on dlx. Revision Changes Path 1.29 +2 -1 ports/emulators/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:35:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28698 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:35:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28693; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:35:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA05652; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:35:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:35:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300435.UAA05652@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/mail Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 20:35:02 PST Modified files: mail Makefile Log: turn on hbiff Revision Changes Path 1.78 +2 -1 ports/mail/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:36:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28333 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:31:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28319; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:31:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA05337; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:31:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:31:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300431.UAA05337@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/net/bounce - Imported sources Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 20:31:42 PST ports/net/bounce - Imported sources Update of /home/ncvs/ports/net/bounce In directory freefall.freebsd.org:/d/users/obrien/READY/bounce Log Message: A little program to bounce tcp connections to another machine/port. Status: Vendor Tag: OBRIEN Release Tags: bounce_1_0 N ports/net/bounce/Makefile I ports/net/bounce/CVS N ports/net/bounce/files/md5 N ports/net/bounce/patches/patch-01 N ports/net/bounce/pkg/COMMENT N ports/net/bounce/pkg/DESCR N ports/net/bounce/pkg/PLIST No conflicts created by this import To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:41:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA29122 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:41:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29112; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:41:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA06476; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:41:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:41:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300441.UAA06476@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 20:41:12 PST Modified files: . modules Log: Howto --> ports/misc/Howto Revision Changes Path 1.2652 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 20:42:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA29414 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:42:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29409; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:42:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA06565; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:42:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:42:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300442.UAA06565@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/misc/Howto - Imported sources Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 20:42:36 PST ports/misc/Howto - Imported sources Update of /home/ncvs/ports/misc/Howto In directory freefall.freebsd.org:/d/users/obrien/new/Howto Log Message: This is the result from some discussion in some list (can't remember which) where someone suggested taking the Linux HOW-TOs and make them applicable to FreeBSD. Everyone please feel free to add to this framework. Status: Vendor Tag: OBRIEN Release Tags: howto_1_0 N ports/misc/Howto/Makefile I ports/misc/Howto/CVS N ports/misc/Howto/files/md5 N ports/misc/Howto/files/HOWTO-INDEX.html N ports/misc/Howto/patches/patch-nfs N ports/misc/Howto/patches/patch-nis N ports/misc/Howto/patches/patch-dns N ports/misc/Howto/pkg/COMMENT N ports/misc/Howto/pkg/PLIST N ports/misc/Howto/pkg/DESCR No conflicts created by this import To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 21:00:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00901 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:00:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00895; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:00:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA08750; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:00:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:00:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300500.VAA08750@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/misc Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/29 21:00:20 PST Modified files: misc Makefile Log: turnon Howto Revision Changes Path 1.182 +2 -1 ports/misc/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 21:29:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03046 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:29:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03041; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:29:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nsj@FreeBSD.org) From: Nate Johnson Received: (from nsj@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA11654; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:29:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:29:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300529.VAA11654@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/gallery prune.pl Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk nsj 1998/12/29 21:29:00 PST Modified files: en/gallery prune.pl Log: Enhanced to display a list of URLs that are listed more than once for any list (a sign of duplicate entries.) Revision Changes Path 1.2 +33 -3 www/en/gallery/prune.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 21:29:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03088 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:29:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03083; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:29:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nsj@FreeBSD.org) From: Nate Johnson Received: (from nsj@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA11798; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:29:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:29:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300529.VAA11798@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/gallery gallery.db gallery.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk nsj 1998/12/29 21:29:34 PST Modified files: en/gallery gallery.db gallery.sgml Log: Scanned and removed around 30 duplicate entries. Revision Changes Path 1.17 +275 -305 www/en/gallery/gallery.db 1.43 +4 -4 www/en/gallery/gallery.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 21:31:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03417 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:31:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03402; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:31:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nsj@FreeBSD.org) From: Nate Johnson Received: (from nsj@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA12303; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:31:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:31:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300531.VAA12303@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/gallery gengallery.pl Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk nsj 1998/12/29 21:31:44 PST Modified files: en/gallery gengallery.pl Log: Fixed to look for "non profit" in .db file when generating npgallery.sgml. Revision Changes Path 1.5 +1 -1 www/en/gallery/gengallery.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 22:26:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA08440 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:26:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA08430 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:26:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/Netplex) with ESMTP id OAA84600 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 14:25:48 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199812300625.OAA84600@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 14:25:47 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Nutshell: Can anybody forsee the need to export symbol type to userland? Now for the details.. :-) The in-kernel linker keeps a small symbol table (of global symbols only for a stripped kernel). This is used for loading and unloading, to provide DDB with lookup capabilities, etc. Obviously, with a massively modular kernel (something we don't have yet, and hopefully we won't go overboard on), doing a kvm_mkdb(8) on /kernel at boot time and having kvm_nlist() read those is going to become rather useless rather quickly. The obvious solution is to provide access to the current symbol table to userland. However, the symbol table is an opaque entity within the kernel (it's kept in native format by the per-object format handlers). To get to the information, it's exported in a generic format. To date, this data contains value and size, and not type. (global, weak, text/data/bss etc). This is a problem for emulating kvm_nlist() from this information, as it provides an a.out n_type value. After having looked over the tree, we do not look at the contents of n_type (from kvm_nlist) at all other than as a 'was this symbol found?' boolean value. My initial thoughts were to just set it to an arbitary value (N_TXT | N_EXT) if it's defined, or 0 if not. However... what's in the tree now isn't necessarily a good indication of what will be needed later. And it doesn't give enough information to do a realistic nm-like symbol dump of the running kernel. (since kvm_mkdb will become useless over time, so will "nm /kernel | sort | more".) Because unstripped symbol tables are full of assorted junk, this might be needed. We need a replacement for the nm functionality, perhaps something like "kldsymdump | sort | more" that shows the usual nm-like info. So, perhaps it isn't enough after all.. Perhaps some sort of type value is needed after all, that can at least seperate text/data/etc from the misc junk that turns up in an unstripped kernel. Perhaps even a containing object number should be included so that we can see which symbol comes from what file - although this should be obvious when comparing against load addresses. Any constructive comments would be appreciated. :-) Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 22:46:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA10667 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:46:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from firewall.reed.wattle.id.au (darren2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.53.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA10650 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:46:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au) Received: (from root@localhost) by firewall.reed.wattle.id.au (8.9.1/8.8.7) id GAA26299; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 06:45:18 GMT Received: from avalon.reed.wattle.id.au(192.168.1.1) by firewall.reed.wattle.id.au via smap (V1.3) id sma026297; Wed Dec 30 06:45:10 1998 Received: from percival.reed.wattle.id.au. (percival.reed.wattle.id.au [192.168.1.5]) by avalon.reed.wattle.id.au (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id RAA16732; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:45:09 +1100 (EST) From: Darren Reed Message-Id: <199812300645.RAA16732@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. To: peter@netplex.com.au (Peter Wemm) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:45:09 +1100 (EST) Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199812300625.OAA84600@spinner.netplex.com.au> from "Peter Wemm" at Dec 30, 98 02:25:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk If you're exporting symbols through something like a /dev/ksyms where you can do "nm /dev/ksyms" and get a human-readable listing of the in-kernel table, then n_type is essential (for obvious reasons). Darren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 22:51:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA11090 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:51:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA11080 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:51:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id HAA29786 for cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:50:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA00548; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:49:28 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from j) Message-ID: <19981230074926.04208@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:49:26 +0100 From: J Wunsch To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin Makefile src/sys/net if_sppp.h if_spppsubr.c src/usr.sbin/spppcontrol Makefile spppcontrol.8 spppcontrol.c Reply-To: Joerg Wunsch References: <199812272130.NAA21915@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <199812272130.NAA21915@freefall.freebsd.org>; from Poul-Henning Kamp on Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 01:30:50PM -0800 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk As Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > phk 1998/12/27 13:30:50 PST > > Modified files: > usr.sbin Makefile > sys/net if_sppp.h if_spppsubr.c > Added files: > usr.sbin/spppcontrol Makefile spppcontrol.8 spppcontrol.c > Log: > Update sppp support to i4b level. This includes the new spppcontrol > program to set PPP options like authentication with. Oooops! You've now re-imported this to usr.sbin when it already lives in sbin! It's in sbin for the same reasons why ifconfig is there, and i considered it something like an `ifconfig companion (sp?) for sppp'. Sure, there are probably only few people who need sppp in order to get their /usr NFS-mounted :), but it's nevertheless a basic networking utility, so i deemed it more consistent to be there. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 23:10:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12439 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:10:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA12294; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:09:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/Netplex) with ESMTP id PAA84781; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:07:44 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199812300707.PAA84781@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Darren Reed cc: phk@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:45:09 +1100." <199812300645.RAA16732@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:07:43 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Darren Reed wrote: > > If you're exporting symbols through something like a /dev/ksyms where > you can do "nm /dev/ksyms" and get a human-readable listing of the in-kernel > table, then n_type is essential (for obvious reasons). Yes, I thought about that a few times and I'm fairly convinced that doing a /dev/ksyms will be Really Hard (tm) and/or resource expensive given the way things are presently implemented. In a situation where there is a single loaded symbol table, this is easy. However, we have multiple symbol tables and in multiple formats. At present, I think the majority of cases have an a.out kernel symbol table and ELF module symbols. A coherent symbol table would have to be constructed, and that would take a large block of memory to do it in one chunk... Otherwise making lseek()/read() work across a (say) 4K staging buffer in kernel memory would be messy, especially when there is potential for loads/unloads inbetween reads of the device. I'm really not sure how to best get large synthetic blocks of data out to the user. I know sysctl(2) has enough trouble. Speaking of sysctl(), it's been suggested that I try and use it rather than a syscall interface. I'm a little concerned about the implications of that, but then again I don't understand the implementation that well. As I understand it, for looking up a kernel symbol ("msgbuf"), a symbolic name (kern.syms.msgbuf) would first be translated into a numeric OID via a sysctl syscall. Then, the numeric OID would be looked up, and presumably an opaque (to sysctl(2)) block would be returned for the caller to interpret. If this is the case, then we hit the symbol tables in one call to locate the symbol, and then later hit it again to get the value using the previous key. If there is significant time in between the two calls the address found previously could change. Of course, I could be underestimating sysctl(2)'s capabilities. I suppose there isn't much stopping a numeric OID lookup to start with, where the mib number was actually an address of the symbol name to be copyinstr()'ed. In this case too, it should be pretty simple to do address->name lookups. If the second case is closer to reality, then presumably we can use the sysctl() infrastructure to lock process memory while preparing a large writeout in order to dump the symbol table... To do anything like this I will need pointers and/or help. Poul-Henning? > Darren Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 23:24:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13676 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:24:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from firewall.reed.wattle.id.au (darren2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.53.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13670; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:24:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au) Received: (from root@localhost) by firewall.reed.wattle.id.au (8.9.1/8.8.7) id HAA26366; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:24:19 GMT Received: from avalon.reed.wattle.id.au(192.168.1.1) by firewall.reed.wattle.id.au via smap (V1.3) id sma026364; Wed Dec 30 07:23:57 1998 Received: from percival.reed.wattle.id.au. (percival.reed.wattle.id.au [192.168.1.5]) by avalon.reed.wattle.id.au (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id SAA16755; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:23:57 +1100 (EST) From: Darren Reed Message-Id: <199812300723.SAA16755@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. To: peter@netplex.com.au (Peter Wemm) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:23:56 +1100 (EST) Cc: phk@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199812300707.PAA84781@spinner.netplex.com.au> from "Peter Wemm" at Dec 30, 98 03:07:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In some email I received from Peter Wemm, sie wrote: > > Darren Reed wrote: > > > > If you're exporting symbols through something like a /dev/ksyms where > > you can do "nm /dev/ksyms" and get a human-readable listing of the in-kernel > > table, then n_type is essential (for obvious reasons). > > Yes, I thought about that a few times and I'm fairly convinced that doing > a /dev/ksyms will be Really Hard (tm) and/or resource expensive given the > way things are presently implemented. I don't think a /dev/ksyms needs to be "fast", but if implemented well could possibly be used with mmap(). > In a situation where there is a single loaded symbol table, this is easy. > However, we have multiple symbol tables and in multiple formats. Well, then you need to pick one which can be used as a superset of the two. I'd expect they're all storing the same sort of information so this shouldn't be too hard. > At > present, I think the majority of cases have an a.out kernel symbol table > and ELF module symbols. A coherent symbol table would have to be > constructed, and that would take a large block of memory to do it in one > chunk... I'm confused about what you're saying here, the need for n_type shouldn't go away because of a.out -> ELF. Solaris has a.out & ELF support and at least appears to still support nlist.h on both a.out and ELF binaries. > I'm really not sure how to best get large synthetic blocks of data out to > the user. I know sysctl(2) has enough trouble. Try creating a pseudo chracacter device, with a buffer and apply read(2) or mmap(2) where necessary. Darren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 23:46:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15816 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:46:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15808; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:46:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@FreeBSD.org) From: KATO Takenori Received: (from kato@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA19925; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:46:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:46:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300746.XAA19925@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pc98/conf GENERIC98 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk kato 1998/12/29 23:46:23 PST Modified files: sys/pc98/conf GENERIC98 Log: Sync with sys/i386/conf/GENERIC revision up to 1.140. Revision Changes Path 1.61 +11 -5 src/sys/pc98/conf/GENERIC98 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 23:48:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15978 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:48:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15957; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:48:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@FreeBSD.org) From: KATO Takenori Received: (from kato@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA19990; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:47:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:47:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300747.XAA19990@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pc98/conf GENERICupgrade Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk kato 1998/12/29 23:47:53 PST Removed files: sys/pc98/conf GENERICupgrade Log: Removed GENERICupgrade file. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 23:49:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16050 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:49:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16041; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:49:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nectar@FreeBSD.org) From: Jacques Vidrine Received: (from nectar@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA20076; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:49:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:49:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300749.XAA20076@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/devel/glib11-devel/patches patch-ad patch-ae Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk nectar 1998/12/29 23:49:17 PST Added files: devel/glib11-devel/patches patch-ad patch-ae Log: Use GNU poll implementation instead of system poll. We don't yet have a thread safe poll in libc_r, so we need this if we are going to dynamically link with threaded applications. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 23:49:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16081 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:49:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16076; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:49:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@FreeBSD.org) From: KATO Takenori Received: (from kato@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA20134; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:49:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:49:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300749.XAA20134@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pc98/conf SMP-GENERIC98 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk kato 1998/12/29 23:49:47 PST Removed files: sys/pc98/conf SMP-GENERIC98 Log: SMP stuff has been merged into GENERIC98 file. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 23:51:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16222 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:51:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16217; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:51:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@FreeBSD.org) From: KATO Takenori Received: (from kato@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA20442; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:51:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:51:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300751.XAA20442@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pc98/conf devices.pc98 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk kato 1998/12/29 23:51:21 PST Modified files: sys/pc98/conf devices.pc98 Log: Sync with sys/i386/conf/devices.i386 revision 1.15. Revision Changes Path 1.7 +2 -2 src/sys/pc98/conf/devices.pc98 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 23:57:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16824 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:57:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16817; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:57:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@FreeBSD.org) From: KATO Takenori Received: (from kato@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA20831; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:57:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:57:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300757.XAA20831@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pc98/conf files.pc98 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk kato 1998/12/29 23:57:00 PST Modified files: sys/pc98/conf files.pc98 Log: Sync with sys/i386/conf/files.i386 revision up to 1.215. Revision Changes Path 1.77 +25 -78 src/sys/pc98/conf/files.pc98 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 29 23:58:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16948 for cvs-all-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:58:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16943; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:58:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@FreeBSD.org) From: KATO Takenori Received: (from kato@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA20933; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:58:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:58:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300758.XAA20933@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pc98/conf majors.pc98 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk kato 1998/12/29 23:58:42 PST Modified files: sys/pc98/conf majors.pc98 Log: Sync with sys/i386/conf/majors.i386 revision up to 1.58. Revision Changes Path 1.44 +4 -3 src/sys/pc98/conf/majors.pc98 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 00:03:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA17287 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:03:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA17280; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:03:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@FreeBSD.org) From: KATO Takenori Received: (from kato@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA21191; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:03:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:03:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300803.AAA21191@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pc98/conf options.pc98 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk kato 1998/12/30 00:03:03 PST Modified files: sys/pc98/conf options.pc98 Log: Sync with sys/i386/conf/options.i386 revision up to 1.100. Revision Changes Path 1.76 +38 -22 src/sys/pc98/conf/options.pc98 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 00:06:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA17715 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:06:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA17709; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:06:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@FreeBSD.org) From: KATO Takenori Received: (from kato@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA21395; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:06:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:06:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300806.AAA21395@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pc98/pc98 fd.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk kato 1998/12/30 00:06:41 PST Modified files: sys/pc98/pc98 fd.c Log: Sync with sys/i386/isa/fd.c revision 1.130. Revision Changes Path 1.48 +2 -82 src/sys/pc98/pc98/fd.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 00:08:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA17989 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:08:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA17972; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:08:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@FreeBSD.org) From: KATO Takenori Received: (from kato@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA21438; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:08:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:08:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300808.AAA21438@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pc98/pc98 pcaudio.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk kato 1998/12/30 00:08:06 PST Modified files: sys/pc98/pc98 pcaudio.c Log: Sync with sys/i386/isa/pcaudio.c revision 1.45. Revision Changes Path 1.20 +39 -7 src/sys/pc98/pc98/pcaudio.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 00:09:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18067 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:09:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA18060; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:09:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@FreeBSD.org) From: KATO Takenori Received: (from kato@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA21501; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:09:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:09:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300809.AAA21501@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pc98/pc98 sio.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk kato 1998/12/30 00:09:11 PST Modified files: sys/pc98/pc98 sio.c Log: Sync with sys/i386/isa/sio.c revision 1.220. Revision Changes Path 1.71 +1 -158 src/sys/pc98/pc98/sio.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 00:52:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA21291 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:52:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA21286 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:52:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA86273; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:51:57 +0100 (CET) To: Joerg Wunsch cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin Makefile src/sys/net if_sppp.h if_spppsubr.c src/usr.sbin/spppcontrol Makefile spppcontrol.8 spppcontrol.c In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:49:26 +0100." <19981230074926.04208@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:51:57 +0100 Message-ID: <86271.915007917@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <19981230074926.04208@uriah.heep.sax.de>, J Wunsch writes: >As Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> phk 1998/12/27 13:30:50 PST >> >> Modified files: >> usr.sbin Makefile >> sys/net if_sppp.h if_spppsubr.c >> Added files: >> usr.sbin/spppcontrol Makefile spppcontrol.8 spppcontrol.c >> Log: >> Update sppp support to i4b level. This includes the new spppcontrol >> program to set PPP options like authentication with. > >Oooops! You've now re-imported this to usr.sbin when it already lives >in sbin! Argh! Dang! Will fix. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 01:38:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24508 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:38:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA24503; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:38:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA06433; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:38:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:38:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300938.BAA06433@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin Makefile src/usr.sbin/spppcontrol Makefile spppcontrol.8 spppcontrol.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/30 01:38:46 PST Modified files: usr.sbin Makefile Removed files: usr.sbin/spppcontrol Makefile spppcontrol.8 spppcontrol.c Log: spppcontrol already lives in /sbin Revision Changes Path 1.143 +1 -2 src/usr.sbin/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 01:43:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24799 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:43:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA24794; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:43:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA07036; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:43:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:43:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300943.BAA07036@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf LINT Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk phk 1998/12/30 01:43:37 PST Modified files: sys/i386/conf LINT Log: We don't specify "vector mumble" anymore Submitted by: Boris Staeblow Revision Changes Path 1.523 +15 -15 src/sys/i386/conf/LINT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 01:50:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA25230 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:50:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25224; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:50:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) From: Dmitrij Tejblum Received: (from dt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA07763; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:50:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:50:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812300950.BAA07763@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/etc/mtree BSD.usr.dist Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dt 1998/12/30 01:50:44 PST Modified files: etc/mtree BSD.usr.dist Log: Add entry for rusiian FAQ. Revision Changes Path 1.143 +5 -1 src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 02:06:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA26398 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:06:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26383; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:06:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA09775; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:05:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:05:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301005.CAA09775@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/boot Makefile.inc Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/30 02:05:56 PST Modified files: sys/i386/boot Makefile.inc Log: Add -aout to CFLAGS centrally. Set the default for BINDIR (to /usr/mdec) centrally. Revision Changes Path 1.3 +3 -1 src/sys/i386/boot/Makefile.inc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 02:17:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27396 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:17:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27390; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:17:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) From: Dmitrij Tejblum Received: (from dt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA11217; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:17:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:17:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301017.CAA11217@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: doc/ru/FAQ Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dt 1998/12/30 02:17:36 PST Modified files: ru/FAQ Makefile Log: Install Russian FAQ to its directory. Set charset of HTML files to koi8-r. Don't build ascii and latin1 version. Obtained from: doc/ja/FAQ/Makefile and doc/es/FAQ/Makefile Revision Changes Path 1.2 +7 -2 doc/ru/FAQ/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 02:21:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27856 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:21:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27851; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:21:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA11761; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:21:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:21:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301021.CAA11761@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/30 02:21:38 PST Modified files: sys/i386/boot/biosboot Makefile Log: Rely on ../Makefile.inc to set the object format in CFLAGS and the default for BINDIR. The default BINDIR of /usr/mdec can't be overridden yet because libdisk still uses /usr/mdec and installing in /boot might clobber the new boot blocks. Don't install links to bootxx or xxboot. Install boot1 and boot2 in 1 step. Don't delete the boot.help source file on installing it when ${COPY} is null. Revision Changes Path 1.68 +5 -14 src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 02:26:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28293 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:26:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28276; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:26:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA12191; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:26:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:26:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301026.CAA12191@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/boot/dosboot Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/30 02:26:19 PST Modified files: sys/i386/boot/dosboot Makefile Log: Rely on ../Makefile.inc to set the default for BINDIR. Revision Changes Path 1.5 +1 -2 src/sys/i386/boot/dosboot/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 02:34:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28992 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:34:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28987; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:34:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA13055; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:34:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:34:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301034.CAA13055@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/boot/cdboot Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/30 02:34:48 PST Modified files: sys/i386/boot/cdboot Makefile Log: Enforce building with -aout, since building with OBJFORMAT=elf doesn't work. Rely on ../Makefile.inc to set the the default for BINDIR. Removed comments about installing links to bootxx and xxboot. Revision Changes Path 1.5 +3 -8 src/sys/i386/boot/cdboot/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 02:37:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29395 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:37:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29390; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:37:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA13359; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:37:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:37:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301037.CAA13359@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/boot/kzipboot Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/30 02:37:45 PST Modified files: sys/i386/boot/kzipboot Makefile Log: Enforce building with -aout, since building with OBJFORMAT=elf doesn't work. Revision Changes Path 1.10 +3 -3 src/sys/i386/boot/kzipboot/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 02:39:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29682 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:39:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29672; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:39:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@FreeBSD.org) From: Doug Rabson Received: (from dfr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA13532; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:38:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:38:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301038.CAA13532@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c trap.c src/sys/alpha/include vmparam.h src/sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c src/sys/sys imgact.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dfr 1998/12/30 02:38:59 PST Modified files: sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c trap.c sys/alpha/include vmparam.h sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c sys/sys imgact.h Log: Various changes to support OSF1 emulation: * Move the user stack from VM_MAXUSER_ADDRESS to a place below the 32bit boundary (needed to support 32bit OSF programs). This should also save one pagetable per process. * Add cvtqlsv to the set of instructions handled by the floating point software completion code. * Disable all floating point exceptions by default. * A minor change to execve to allow the OSF1 image activator to support dynamic loading. Revision Changes Path 1.7 +5 -5 src/sys/alpha/alpha/vm_machdep.c 1.29 +5 -5 src/sys/alpha/alpha/machdep.c 1.2 +26 -8 src/sys/alpha/alpha/fp_emulate.c 1.10 +3 -2 src/sys/alpha/alpha/trap.c 1.4 +10 -2 src/sys/alpha/include/vmparam.h 1.102 +2 -2 src/sys/kern/init_main.c 1.92 +6 -5 src/sys/kern/kern_exec.c 1.18 +2 -1 src/sys/sys/imgact.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 02:48:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00516 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:48:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00511; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:48:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA14632; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:48:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:48:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301048.CAA14632@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/boot/netboot Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/30 02:48:09 PST Modified files: sys/i386/boot/netboot Makefile Log: Rely on ../Makefile.inc to set the object format in CFLAGS and the default for BINDIR. Fixed some style bugs in previous aout enforcement. Revision Changes Path 1.22 +4 -7 src/sys/i386/boot/netboot/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 02:56:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00993 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:56:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00988; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:55:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA15931; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:55:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:55:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301055.CAA15931@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/boot/rawboot Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/30 02:55:50 PST Modified files: sys/i386/boot/rawboot Makefile Log: Enforce building with -aout, since building with OBJFORMAT=elf doesn't work. Rely on ../Makefile.inc to set the the default for BINDIR. Revision Changes Path 1.12 +3 -4 src/sys/i386/boot/rawboot/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 03:17:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02366 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:17:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02360; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:17:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA18379; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:17:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:17:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301117.DAA18379@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/30 03:17:10 PST Modified files: sys Makefile Log: Always build ${MACHINE}/boot if it exists. Makefiles shouldn't know about deficiencies in subdirs. Revision Changes Path 1.15 +7 -11 src/sys/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 03:21:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02747 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:21:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02739; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:21:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@FreeBSD.org) From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Received: (from yokota@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA18908; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:21:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:21:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301121.DAA18908@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/modules Makefile src/sys/modules/vesa Makefile src/sys/i386/isa vesa.c scvesactl.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk yokota 1998/12/30 03:21:09 PST Modified files: sys/modules Makefile sys/modules/vesa Makefile sys/i386/isa vesa.c scvesactl.c Log: Make the VESA KLD module work! Revision Changes Path 1.43 +2 -2 src/sys/modules/Makefile 1.4 +1 -2 src/sys/modules/vesa/Makefile 1.10 +33 -27 src/sys/i386/isa/vesa.c 1.8 +3 -3 src/sys/i386/isa/scvesactl.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 03:26:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA03182 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:26:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA03177; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:26:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA19519; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:26:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:26:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301126.DAA19519@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src Makefile.inc1 src/lib/libdisk Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/30 03:26:25 PST Modified files: . Makefile.inc1 lib/libdisk Makefile Log: Fixed bootstrapping of /usr/mdec/boot[12]. Revision Changes Path 1.52 +7 -2 src/Makefile.inc1 1.22 +2 -2 src/lib/libdisk/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 03:40:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04442 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04437; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) From: Dmitrij Tejblum Received: (from dt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA20961; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:39:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:39:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301139.DAA20961@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: doc/ru/FAQ preface.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dt 1998/12/30 03:39:53 PST Modified files: ru/FAQ preface.sgml Log: A few typo, wording, and translation mistakes fixed in questions 1.1 - 1.4. Revision Changes Path 1.2 +13 -13 doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 03:48:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA05061 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:48:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA05056; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:48:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dirk@FreeBSD.org) From: Dirk Froemberg Received: (from dirk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA21755; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:48:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:48:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301148.DAA21755@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/graphics/povray Makefile ports/graphics/povray/files md5 ports/graphics/povray/patches patch-b ports/graphics/povray/pkg COMMENT Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dirk 1998/12/30 03:48:35 PST Modified files: graphics/povray Makefile graphics/povray/files md5 graphics/povray/patches patch-b graphics/povray/pkg COMMENT Log: - Upgrade to 3.0.1 - set MAINTAINER to kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au - honor CFLAGS CHANGES not included in PR ports/9240: - add USE_XLIB - remove version string from pkg/COMMENT PR: ports/9240 Submitted by: Kris Kennaway Revision Changes Path 1.12 +12 -12 ports/graphics/povray/Makefile 1.6 +1 -1 ports/graphics/povray/files/md5 1.5 +21 -0 ports/graphics/povray/patches/patch-b 1.4 +1 -1 ports/graphics/povray/pkg/COMMENT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 03:57:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06201 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:57:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06160; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:57:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:57:08 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199812301157.DAA06160@hub.freebsd.org> To: committers, current Subject: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Starting later today, I will import Postfix (aka VMailer aka SecureMailer from IBM) into the tree under /usr/src/contrib. Postfix was written by Wietse Venema (tcp_wrappers, satan, etc). Postfix is a mail transfer agent. Postfix runs as its own user. We will be adding a new system uid and gid (user mta, uid 25, group mta, gid 25). You will need to add this user and group by hand using the /usr/src/etc/{group,master.passwd} files as a template. You will be able to choose between Sendmail and Postfix as your mail transfer agent. Therefore, you can ignore Postfix, if you choose. For a sneak preview take a look at http://www.postfix.org and http://www.alphaWorks.ibm.com/formula/securemailer. Postfix is still under development as so is labelled "beta". However, the FreeBSD mailing lists have been using Postfix for more than 4 months without incident. Wietse's beta is better than many "finished" products ;) jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--The Power to Serve JMB193 http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 04:06:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA08024 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 04:06:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08018; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 04:06:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA24748; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 04:06:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 04:06:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301206.EAA24748@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src Makefile.inc1 src/lib/libdisk Makefile src/sys Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/30 04:06:08 PST Modified files: . Makefile.inc1 lib/libdisk Makefile sys Makefile Log: Backed out previous commit. It depends on a.out utilities and libraries somehow being available even on pure elf systems. Revision Changes Path 1.53 +2 -7 src/Makefile.inc1 1.23 +2 -2 src/lib/libdisk/Makefile 1.16 +11 -7 src/sys/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 05:26:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14927 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:26:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA14922; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:26:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) From: Dmitrij Tejblum Received: (from dt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA28138; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:26:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:26:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301326.FAA28138@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: doc/ru/FAQ preface.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dt 1998/12/30 05:26:23 PST Modified files: ru/FAQ preface.sgml Log: Random wording improvements in wuestions 1.6 - 1.10. Revision Changes Path 1.3 +12 -12 doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 05:29:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15055 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:29:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15049; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:29:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA28344; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:29:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:29:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301329.FAA28344@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/lib/libdisk Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk jkh 1998/12/30 05:29:11 PST Modified files: lib/libdisk Makefile Log: Transition libdisk to use /boot since what it's looking for (boot1 and boot2) are now there. Revision Changes Path 1.24 +2 -2 src/lib/libdisk/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 05:30:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15157 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:30:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15147; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:30:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA11080; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:30:07 -0800 (PST) To: Doug Rabson cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c trap.c src/sys/alpha/include vmparam.h src/sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c src/sys/sys imgact.h In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:38:59 PST." <199812301038.CAA13532@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:30:06 -0800 Message-ID: <11077.915024606@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > * Disable all floating point exceptions by default. Can we have this in the x86 version too? :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 05:43:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16082 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:43:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16062; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:43:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA29364; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:43:35 GMT Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:43:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Doug Rabson , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c trap.c src/sys/alpha/include vmparam.h src/sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c src/sys/sys imgact.h In-Reply-To: <11077.915024606@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > * Disable all floating point exceptions by default. > > Can we have this in the x86 version too? :-) Ask Bruce :-) -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 05:50:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16444 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:50:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16437; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:50:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA11183; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:50:25 -0800 (PST) To: Doug Rabson cc: Doug Rabson , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c trap.c src/sys/alpha/include vmparam.h src/sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c src/sys/sys imgact.h In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:43:35 GMT." Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:50:24 -0800 Message-ID: <11179.915025824@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Can we have this in the x86 version too? :-) > > Ask Bruce :-) I have, many times. He just gathers his cloak of invisibility more firmly around himself, mutters a few protective incantations against the dark anti-mathematicians who Know Not What They Ask For and tells me "No." Even though Bruce will be the first to admit that this one has been gnawing on people's ankles for years, just judging by the comments we've received over it, and has always answered the user requests the same way: No. It's that way because. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 06:31:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19524 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 06:31:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19518; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 06:31:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA02770; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 14:31:23 GMT Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 14:31:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Doug Rabson cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c trap.c src/sys/alpha/include vmparam.h src/sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c src/sys/sys imgact.h In-Reply-To: <199812301038.CAA13532@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Doug Rabson wrote: > dfr 1998/12/30 02:38:59 PST > > Modified files: > sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c > trap.c > sys/alpha/include vmparam.h > sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c > sys/sys imgact.h > Log: > Various changes to support OSF1 emulation: > > * Move the user stack from VM_MAXUSER_ADDRESS to a place below the 32bit > boundary (needed to support 32bit OSF programs). This should also save > one pagetable per process. > * Add cvtqlsv to the set of instructions handled by the floating point > software completion code. > * Disable all floating point exceptions by default. > * A minor change to execve to allow the OSF1 image activator to support > dynamic loading. Forgot to add: Submitted by: Andrew Gallatin -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 06:36:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20006 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 06:36:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (dryad.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20000; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 06:36:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.156.43]) by mail.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.6/3.4Wbeta6-SAT1.0) with ESMTP id XAA07199; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:36:13 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from localhost by ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.8/sat-V0.6) id XAA04577; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:36:13 +0900 (JST) To: dfr@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c trap.c src/sys/alpha/include vmparam.h src/sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c src/sys/sys imgact.h In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:38:59 -0800 (PST)" <199812301038.CAA13532@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <199812301038.CAA13532@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Face: OE([KxWyJI0r[R~S/>7ia}SJ)i%a,$-9%7{*yihQk|]gl}2p#"oXmX/fT}Bn7:#j7i14gu$ jgR\S*&C3R/pJX Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:36:12 +0900 From: Hidetoshi Shimokawa X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 9 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dfr> * Disable all floating point exceptions by default. My understanding is that we still get SIGFPE without "-mtrap-precision=i -mfp-trap-mode=su" option of cc and default cc doesn't have this option. Am I right? /\ Hidetoshi Shimokawa \/ simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp PGP public key: finger -l simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 06:45:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20776 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 06:45:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (dryad.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20768; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 06:45:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.156.43]) by mail.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.6/3.4Wbeta6-SAT1.0) with ESMTP id XAA07258; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:45:07 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from localhost by ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.8/sat-V0.6) id XAA04764; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:45:07 +0900 (JST) To: dfr@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c trap.c src/sys/alpha/include vmparam.h src/sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c src/sys/sys imgact.h In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:36:12 +0900" <19981230233612P.simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> References: <19981230233612P.simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> X-Face: OE([KxWyJI0r[R~S/>7ia}SJ)i%a,$-9%7{*yihQk|]gl}2p#"oXmX/fT}Bn7:#j7i14gu$ jgR\S*&C3R/pJX Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:45:06 +0900 From: Hidetoshi Shimokawa X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 13 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk simokawa> dfr> * Disable all floating point exceptions by default. simokawa> simokawa> My understanding is that we still get SIGFPE without simokawa> "-mtrap-precision=i -mfp-trap-mode=su" option of cc and default simokawa> cc doesn't have this option. Am I right? Oh, I understand that this is for OSF/1 binary, and the binary must be compiled with the options which is equivalent to "-mtrap...". /\ Hidetoshi Shimokawa \/ simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp PGP public key: finger -l simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 07:02:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22270 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:02:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22264; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:02:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA12239; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:02:04 GMT Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:02:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Hidetoshi Shimokawa cc: dfr@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c trap.c src/sys/alpha/include vmparam.h src/sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c src/sys/sys imgact.h In-Reply-To: <19981230233612P.simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote: > dfr> * Disable all floating point exceptions by default. > > My understanding is that we still get SIGFPE without > "-mtrap-precision=i -mfp-trap-mode=su" option of cc and default > cc doesn't have this option. Am I right? That is true (I think). I'm not quite sure what happens if exceptions are disabled but an operation generates an underflow. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 07:05:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22597 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:05:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22590; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:05:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA87571; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:03:29 +0100 (CET) To: Doug Rabson cc: Hidetoshi Shimokawa , dfr@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c trap.c src/sys/alpha/include vmparam.h src/sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c src/sys/sys imgact.h In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:02:04 GMT." Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:03:28 +0100 Message-ID: <87569.915030208@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message , Dou g Rabson writes: >On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote: > >> dfr> * Disable all floating point exceptions by default. >> >> My understanding is that we still get SIGFPE without >> "-mtrap-precision=i -mfp-trap-mode=su" option of cc and default >> cc doesn't have this option. Am I right? > >That is true (I think). I'm not quite sure what happens if exceptions are >disabled but an operation generates an underflow. Don't you just get denormalized numbers, NaNs and similar monsters ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 07:12:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23438 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:12:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23433; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:12:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA12265; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:11:53 GMT Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:11:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Hidetoshi Shimokawa cc: dfr@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c trap.c src/sys/alpha/include vmparam.h src/sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c src/sys/sys imgact.h In-Reply-To: <19981230234506C.simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote: > simokawa> dfr> * Disable all floating point exceptions by default. > simokawa> > simokawa> My understanding is that we still get SIGFPE without > simokawa> "-mtrap-precision=i -mfp-trap-mode=su" option of cc and default > simokawa> cc doesn't have this option. Am I right? > > Oh, I understand that this is for OSF/1 binary, and the binary must be > compiled with the options which is equivalent to "-mtrap...". I believe that this was needed to get Netscape to work in the emulator. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 07:20:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24261 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:20:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24249; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:20:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA12293; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:17:36 GMT Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:17:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Hidetoshi Shimokawa , dfr@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c trap.c src/sys/alpha/include vmparam.h src/sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c src/sys/sys imgact.h In-Reply-To: <87569.915030208@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message , Dou > g Rabson writes: > >On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote: > > > >> dfr> * Disable all floating point exceptions by default. > >> > >> My understanding is that we still get SIGFPE without > >> "-mtrap-precision=i -mfp-trap-mode=su" option of cc and default > >> cc doesn't have this option. Am I right? > > > >That is true (I think). I'm not quite sure what happens if exceptions are > >disabled but an operation generates an underflow. > > Don't you just get denormalized numbers, NaNs and similar monsters ? On the alpha, denorms, INFs and NaNs are not generated by the hardware. If a corner-case expression is evaluated, it can optionally trap to a kernel floating point emulator which can handle all the gory details of overflows and underflows. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 09:03:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05065 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:03:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA05046 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:02:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zvP0z-0007Lf-00; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 10:02:33 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA06798; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 10:00:40 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199812301700.KAA06798@harmony.village.org> To: Darren Reed Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. Cc: peter@netplex.com.au (Peter Wemm), committers@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:45:09 +1100." <199812300645.RAA16732@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> References: <199812300645.RAA16732@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 10:00:40 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <199812300645.RAA16732@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Darren Reed writes: : If you're exporting symbols through something like a /dev/ksyms where : you can do "nm /dev/ksyms" and get a human-readable listing of the in-kernel : table, then n_type is essential (for obvious reasons). As would gdb -k /dev/ksyms /dev/mem Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 09:33:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08063 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:33:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08058; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:32:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) From: Tim Vanderhoek Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA17758; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:32:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:32:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301732.JAA17758@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/share/man/man7 ports.7 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hoek 1998/12/30 09:32:47 PST Modified files: share/man/man7 ports.7 Log: -make clear need to use the upgrade kit -add "depends" to list of recursive targets -consistent capitilization of FreeBSD.ORG -remove description of PATCH_DEBUG -add .Xr to portcheckout(1) and pib(1) Revision Changes Path 1.9 +17 -7 src/share/man/man7/ports.7 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 09:51:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10000 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:51:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09992; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:51:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA22642; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:51:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:51:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301751.JAA22642@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/commercial software.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wosch 1998/12/30 09:51:35 PST Modified files: en/commercial software.sgml Log: Added: InterBase - The Perfect Embedded Database Behind every great client/server application you'll find a great database. Mike Tossy Director, Strategy & Business Development InterBase Software Corporation Revision Changes Path 1.57 +20 -2 www/en/commercial/software.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 09:54:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10163 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:54:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10158; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:54:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA23473; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:54:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:54:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301754.JAA23473@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www Makefile www/en Makefile www/ru Makefile doc.ftr doc.hdr Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wosch 1998/12/30 09:54:06 PST Modified files: . Makefile en Makefile Added files: ru Makefile doc.ftr doc.hdr Log: Added russian FAQ. Revision Changes Path 1.2 +9 -3 www/Makefile 1.46 +2 -1 www/en/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 10:57:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18201 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 10:57:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18191; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 10:56:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) From: Tim Vanderhoek Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA03669; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 10:56:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 10:56:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301856.KAA03669@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/devel/cons/files md5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hoek 1998/12/30 10:56:49 PST Modified files: devel/cons/files md5 Log: Distfile change w/o version change. Sync md5. (ports/9229) Revision Changes Path 1.2 +1 -1 ports/devel/cons/files/md5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 11:27:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21313 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:27:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21308; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:27:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA06886; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:27:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:27:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301927.LAA06886@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en support.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wosch 1998/12/30 11:27:01 PST Modified files: en support.sgml Log: Added link to russian FAQ. Revision Changes Path 1.108 +4 -3 www/en/support.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 11:30:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21728 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:30:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21723; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:30:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA07248; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:30:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:30:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301930.LAA07248@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en support.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wosch 1998/12/30 11:30:39 PST Modified files: en support.sgml Log: Added link to german mailing list page. Revision Changes Path 1.109 +4 -3 www/en/support.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 11:31:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22008 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:31:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22003; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:31:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) From: Tim Vanderhoek Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA07358; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:31:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:31:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812301931.LAA07358@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/cgi cvsweb.cgi Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hoek 1998/12/30 11:31:43 PST Modified files: en/cgi cvsweb.cgi Log: More aggressive PR-number url'ifying. 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Revision Changes Path 1.27 +5 -3 www/en/cgi/cvsweb.cgi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 11:41:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23453 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:41:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles147.castles.com [208.214.165.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23448 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:41:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04955 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:38:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812301938.LAA04955@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:38:05 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Nutshell: Can anybody forsee the need to export symbol type to userland? > > Now for the details.. :-) > > The in-kernel linker keeps a small symbol table (of global symbols only for > a stripped kernel). This is used for loading and unloading, to provide > DDB with lookup capabilities, etc. > > Obviously, with a massively modular kernel (something we don't have yet, > and hopefully we won't go overboard on), doing a kvm_mkdb(8) on /kernel at > boot time and having kvm_nlist() read those is going to become rather > useless rather quickly. > > The obvious solution is to provide access to the current symbol table to > userland. No, the obvious solution is to improve and expand the sysctl interface, which already provides size and type information. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 11:49:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24418 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:49:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24413 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:49:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA91480; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:48:12 +0100 (CET) To: Mike Smith cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:38:05 PST." <199812301938.LAA04955@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:48:12 +0100 Message-ID: <91478.915047292@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <199812301938.LAA04955@dingo.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith writes: > >> Nutshell: Can anybody forsee the need to export symbol type to userland? >> >No, the obvious solution is to improve and expand the sysctl interface, >which already provides size and type information. It would be trivial to implement in a sysctl, and we can even do it as sysctl kern.nlist.val.avenrun sysctl kern.nlist.type.avenrun if you want to... -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 12:18:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27150 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:18:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27145; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:18:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA12358; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:18:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:18:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812302018.MAA12358@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/news webchanges.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wosch 1998/12/30 12:18:47 PST Modified files: en/news webchanges.sgml Log: Added: InterBase - The Perfect Embedded Database Behind every great Update FreeBSD Gallery entries through 29 Dec 1998 A new mail index for the FreeBSD mailing lists. Added notice about 3.0's move from -current to -stable. Update FreeBSD 2.2.8R errata. Added russian FAQ. Revision Changes Path 1.3 +28 -2 www/en/news/webchanges.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 12:31:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28300 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:31:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles147.castles.com [208.214.165.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28294; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:31:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05583; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:28:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812302028.MAA05583@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Doug Rabson cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c trap.c src/sys/alpha/include vmparam.h src/sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c src/sys/sys imgact.h In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:38:59 PST." <199812301038.CAA13532@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:28:41 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > dfr 1998/12/30 02:38:59 PST > > Modified files: > sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c > trap.c > sys/alpha/include vmparam.h > sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c > sys/sys imgact.h > Log: > Various changes to support OSF1 emulation: > > * Move the user stack from VM_MAXUSER_ADDRESS to a place below the 32bit > boundary (needed to support 32bit OSF programs). This should also save > one pagetable per process. Does this prevent us from using any memory in the user process above the 32-bit boundary? Or can it still be mapped/allocated with the stack region just treated as "already allocated"? Some of the indications from the Linux camp suggest that if you give people access to more than 4G of process address space, they're going to use it. Precluding this would be somewhat of a lose. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 12:57:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00331 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:57:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles147.castles.com [208.214.165.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00324 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:57:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05699; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:51:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812302051.MAA05699@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Mike Smith , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:48:12 +0100." <91478.915047292@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:51:26 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > In message <199812301938.LAA04955@dingo.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith writes: > > > >> Nutshell: Can anybody forsee the need to export symbol type to userland? > >> > >No, the obvious solution is to improve and expand the sysctl interface, > >which already provides size and type information. > > It would be trivial to implement in a sysctl, and we can even do it > as > sysctl kern.nlist.val.avenrun > sysctl kern.nlist.type.avenrun > if you want to... Why not just use the current type/format specifier convention? It works just fine for all the things it's currently being used for. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 12:58:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00621 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:58:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00614; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:58:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.org) From: Søren Schmidt Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA16778; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:58:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:58:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812302058.MAA16778@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/linux syscalls.master Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sos 1998/12/30 12:58:29 PST Modified files: sys/i386/linux syscalls.master Log: Commit #1 of: PR: 9235 Revision Changes Path 1.16 +5 -3 src/sys/i386/linux/syscalls.master To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 12:59:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00668 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:59:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00659 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:59:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA63904; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:58:03 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA58941; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:58:02 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199812302058.WAA58941@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: Mike Smith cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. In-Reply-To: Your message of " Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:38:05 PST." <199812301938.LAA04955@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <199812301938.LAA04955@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:58:01 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Mike Smith wrote: > > The obvious solution is to provide access to the current symbol table to > > userland. > > No, the obvious solution is to improve and expand the sysctl interface, > which already provides size and type information. ...and I am making progress in understanding this code. Hopefully in N centons I may be able to do some stuff there. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 13:00:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00809 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:00:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00802 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:00:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA91885; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:58:28 +0100 (CET) To: Mike Smith cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:51:26 PST." <199812302051.MAA05699@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:58:26 +0100 Message-ID: <91883.915051506@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <199812302051.MAA05699@dingo.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith writes: >> In message <199812301938.LAA04955@dingo.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith writes: >> > >> >> Nutshell: Can anybody forsee the need to export symbol type to userland? >> >> >> >No, the obvious solution is to improve and expand the sysctl interface, >> >which already provides size and type information. >> >> It would be trivial to implement in a sysctl, and we can even do it >> as >> sysctl kern.nlist.val.avenrun >> sysctl kern.nlist.type.avenrun >> if you want to... > >Why not just use the current type/format specifier convention? It >works just fine for all the things it's currently being used for. Sure, I just pointed out the flexibility of sysctl. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 13:01:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00906 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:01:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00900; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:01:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.org) From: Søren Schmidt Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA17049; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:01:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:01:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812302101.NAA17049@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/linux linux_misc.c linux_proto.h linux_syscall.h linux_sysent.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sos 1998/12/30 13:01:34 PST Modified files: sys/i386/linux linux_misc.c linux_proto.h linux_syscall.h linux_sysent.c Log: Commit #2 of PR: 9235 Submitted by: marcel@scc.nl Revision Changes Path 1.50 +73 -1 src/sys/i386/linux/linux_misc.c 1.17 +11 -1 src/sys/i386/linux/linux_proto.h 1.13 +3 -3 src/sys/i386/linux/linux_syscall.h 1.18 +3 -3 src/sys/i386/linux/linux_sysent.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 13:20:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02609 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:20:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02601; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:20:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@FreeBSD.org) From: Søren Schmidt Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA18788; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:20:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:20:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812302120.NAA18788@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/linux linux.h linux_socket.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sos 1998/12/30 13:20:00 PST Modified files: sys/i386/linux linux.h linux_socket.c Log: Commit patch in PR: 9232 Submitted by: marcel@scc.nl Revision Changes Path 1.26 +3 -1 src/sys/i386/linux/linux.h 1.14 +6 -1 src/sys/i386/linux/linux_socket.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 13:31:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03317 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:31:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03289; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:30:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA09429; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:39:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) From: Steve Kargl Message-Id: <199812302139.NAA09429@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/linux linux.h linux_socket.c In-Reply-To: <199812302120.NAA18788@freefall.freebsd.org> from =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= at "Dec 30, 1998 1:20: 0 pm" To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Schmidt) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:39:05 -0800 (PST) Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk According to Søren Schmidt: > sos 1998/12/30 13:20:00 PST > > Modified files: > sys/i386/linux linux.h linux_socket.c > Log: > Commit patch in > > PR: 9232 > Submitted by: marcel@scc.nl > > Revision Changes Path > 1.26 +3 -1 src/sys/i386/linux/linux.h > 1.14 +6 -1 src/sys/i386/linux/linux_socket.c > This isn't a very informative log message. What does the patch do? When PR 9232 evaporates from the gnats databases, one should be able to look at the commit log to see why revision 1.26 of linux.h was required. -- Steve finger kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu http://troutmask.apl.washington.edu/~clesceri/kargl.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 13:59:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05798 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:59:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from firewall.reed.wattle.id.au (darren2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.53.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05793 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:59:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au) Received: (from root@localhost) by firewall.reed.wattle.id.au (8.9.1/8.8.7) id VAA27349; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:58:45 GMT Received: from avalon.reed.wattle.id.au(192.168.1.1) by firewall.reed.wattle.id.au via smap (V1.3) id sma027347; Wed Dec 30 21:58:23 1998 Received: from percival.reed.wattle.id.au. (percival.reed.wattle.id.au [192.168.1.5]) by avalon.reed.wattle.id.au (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id IAA18737; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:58:22 +1100 (EST) From: Darren Reed Message-Id: <199812302158.IAA18737@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. To: phk@critter.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:58:21 +1100 (EST) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, committers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <91478.915047292@critter.freebsd.dk> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Dec 30, 98 08:48:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In some email I received from Poul-Henning Kamp, sie wrote: > > In message <199812301938.LAA04955@dingo.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith writes: > > > >> Nutshell: Can anybody forsee the need to export symbol type to userland? > >> > >No, the obvious solution is to improve and expand the sysctl interface, > >which already provides size and type information. > > It would be trivial to implement in a sysctl, and we can even do it > as > sysctl kern.nlist.val.avenrun > sysctl kern.nlist.type.avenrun > if you want to... I'd just like to point out that, if people haven't already noticed, that relying on sysctl alone to provide this sort of interface does not help anybody and creates more work for porting regular applications to FreeBSD. Sure, provide a sysctl interface by all means, but if you are going to support exporting the internal symbol table to user programs then IMHO doing so in a manner which is already widely supported is essential. Then again, I won't be coding it, just expecting tools such as nm, gdb, or anything else which uses the nlist() library function to just work as if the sysctl interface was a regular file with a symbol table. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 15:07:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12975 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:07:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12962; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:07:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA13559; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:06:51 GMT Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:06:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Mike Smith cc: Doug Rabson , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c trap.c src/sys/alpha/include vmparam.h src/sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c src/sys/sys imgact.h In-Reply-To: <199812302028.MAA05583@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > dfr 1998/12/30 02:38:59 PST > > > > Modified files: > > sys/alpha/alpha vm_machdep.c machdep.c fp_emulate.c > > trap.c > > sys/alpha/include vmparam.h > > sys/kern init_main.c kern_exec.c > > sys/sys imgact.h > > Log: > > Various changes to support OSF1 emulation: > > > > * Move the user stack from VM_MAXUSER_ADDRESS to a place below the 32bit > > boundary (needed to support 32bit OSF programs). This should also save > > one pagetable per process. > > Does this prevent us from using any memory in the user process above > the 32-bit boundary? Or can it still be mapped/allocated with the > stack region just treated as "already allocated"? > > Some of the indications from the Linux camp suggest that if you give > people access to more than 4G of process address space, they're going > to use it. Precluding this would be somewhat of a lose. No. Its just the user stack and even then its only below (1<<32) by default because BSD traditionally has a fixed location for the user stack. Even that wouldn't be hard to change IMHO. The standard text base address for user programs is 0x120000000 so we already force function pointers to be 64bit. OSF1 uses 0x120000000-(a bit) for the user stack of 64bit programs (I think) and some other smaller address for 32bit programs. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 15:11:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13303 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:11:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13297; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:11:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA26990; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:11:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:11:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812302311.PAA26990@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/30 15:11:37 PST Modified files: x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel Makefile Log: Add RUN_DEPEND again. Revision Changes Path 1.38 +4 -2 ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 15:18:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13952 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:18:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13947; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:17:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA27289; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:17:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:17:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812302317.PAA27289@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/30 15:17:51 PST Modified files: . modules Log: gnomeaudio --> ports/audio/gnomeaudio Revision Changes Path 1.2653 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 15:18:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14030 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:18:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14025; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:18:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA27319; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:18:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:18:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812302318.PAA27319@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/audio/gnomeaudio - Imported sources Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/30 15:18:11 PST ports/audio/gnomeaudio - Imported sources Update of /home/ncvs/ports/audio/gnomeaudio In directory freefall.freebsd.org:/d/users/vanilla/work/gnomeaudio Log Message: That's GNOME's sound file. Status: Vendor Tag: VANILLA Release Tags: gnomeaudio_0_1 N ports/audio/gnomeaudio/Makefile I ports/audio/gnomeaudio/CVS N ports/audio/gnomeaudio/files/md5 N ports/audio/gnomeaudio/patches/patch-aa N ports/audio/gnomeaudio/pkg/COMMENT N ports/audio/gnomeaudio/pkg/DESCR N ports/audio/gnomeaudio/pkg/PLIST No conflicts created by this import To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 15:19:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14088 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:19:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14083; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:19:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA27386; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:19:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:19:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812302319.PAA27386@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/audio Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/30 15:19:06 PST Modified files: audio Makefile Log: Activate gnomeaudio. Revision Changes Path 1.63 +2 -1 ports/audio/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 16:00:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18206 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:00:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18196 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:00:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA21115; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:59:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA06821; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:59:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:59:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199812302359.QAA06821@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Mike Smith , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. In-Reply-To: <91478.915047292@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <199812301938.LAA04955@dingo.cdrom.com> <91478.915047292@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > >> Nutshell: Can anybody forsee the need to export symbol type to userland? > >> > >No, the obvious solution is to improve and expand the sysctl interface, > >which already provides size and type information. > > It would be trivial to implement in a sysctl, and we can even do it > as > sysctl kern.nlist.val.avenrun > sysctl kern.nlist.type.avenrun > if you want to... What about 'loadable' drivers that may have multiple symbols for multiple interfaces, ala network cards? kern.nlist.ed0.softc? Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 17:02:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27198 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:02:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27192 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:02:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00478; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:54:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812310054.QAA00478@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Nate Williams cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Mike Smith , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:59:45 MST." <199812302359.QAA06821@mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:54:30 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > >> Nutshell: Can anybody forsee the need to export symbol type to userland? > > >> > > >No, the obvious solution is to improve and expand the sysctl interface, > > >which already provides size and type information. > > > > It would be trivial to implement in a sysctl, and we can even do it > > as > > sysctl kern.nlist.val.avenrun > > sysctl kern.nlist.type.avenrun > > if you want to... > > What about 'loadable' drivers that may have multiple symbols for > multiple interfaces, ala network cards? > > kern.nlist.ed0.softc? Eugh. I think we're at cross purposes here. Exporting the kernel symbol table for debugging purposes is one thing, exporting entities out of the kernel for eg. statistical operations is another entirely. I see a strong line between those two uses, however, with different access mechanisms being suited for each. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 17:59:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02895 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:59:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02770; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:59:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/Netplex) with ESMTP id JAA88604; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:58:49 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199812310158.JAA88604@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libdisk Makefile In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:29:11 PST." <199812301329.FAA28344@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:58:48 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > jkh 1998/12/30 05:29:11 PST > > Modified files: > lib/libdisk Makefile > Log: > Transition libdisk to use /boot since what it's looking for (boot1 and boot 2) > are now there. This doesn't work since there's a chicken/egg problem. /boot/boot1 and /boot/boot2 do not exist until an 'installworld'. However, the very first stage of 'make buildworld' needs it when it builds src/lib so it falls over unless they already exist. And even then, a new buildworld uses the stale bootblocks from the last buildworld session. I don't know exactly what libdisk is used for so I can't suggest an alternative. Are these the only bootblock source for libdisk? Or just a default if /boot/boot* doesn't exist (like when running from sysinstall?) Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm Netplex Consulting "No coffee, No workee!" :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 18:07:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03510 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:07:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03502; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:07:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA24116; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:10:31 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199812310210.NAA24116@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libdisk Makefile In-Reply-To: <199812310158.JAA88604@spinner.netplex.com.au> from Peter Wemm at "Dec 31, 98 09:58:48 am" To: peter@netplex.com.au (Peter Wemm) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:10:31 +1100 (EST) Cc: jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Peter Wemm wrote: > I don't know exactly what libdisk is used for so I can't suggest an > alternative. Are these the only bootblock source for libdisk? Or just a > default if /boot/boot* doesn't exist (like when running from sysinstall?) libdisk should read the boot image/s at runtime instead of being built into the library. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 18:14:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04318 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:14:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04306 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:14:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/Netplex) with ESMTP id KAA88685; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:13:47 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199812310213.KAA88685@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mike Smith cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:44:55 PST." <199812300644.WAA01817@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:13:46 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Mike Smith wrote: > > Nutshell: Can anybody forsee the need to export symbol type to userland? > > > > Now for the details.. :-) > > > > The in-kernel linker keeps a small symbol table (of global symbols only for > > a stripped kernel). This is used for loading and unloading, to provide > > DDB with lookup capabilities, etc. > > > > Obviously, with a massively modular kernel (something we don't have yet, > > and hopefully we won't go overboard on), doing a kvm_mkdb(8) on /kernel at > > boot time and having kvm_nlist() read those is going to become rather > > useless rather quickly. > > > > The obvious solution is to provide access to the current symbol table to > > userland. > > No, the obvious solution is to improve and expand the sysctl interface, > which already provides size and type information. Type and size of the return, which in this case would be an opaque (to sysctl) block of data. The data needed to construct nlist.n_type is quite different to the data return type from sysctl(2). Nobody so far has commented on the need for nlist.n_type emulation.. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 18:27:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05868 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:27:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05859; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:27:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA13346; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:27:18 -0800 (PST) To: Peter Wemm cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libdisk Makefile In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:58:48 +0800." <199812310158.JAA88604@spinner.netplex.com.au> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:27:18 -0800 Message-ID: <13342.915071238@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > This doesn't work since there's a chicken/egg problem. /boot/boot1 and > /boot/boot2 do not exist until an 'installworld'. However, the very > first stage of 'make buildworld' needs it when it builds src/lib so it > falls over unless they already exist. And even then, a new buildworld > uses the stale bootblocks from the last buildworld session. Yeah, I'm finding this out now - Bruce pointed this out yesterday and I've been trying to find time to give it some thought in between all the core wars we've been having. :-) > I don't know exactly what libdisk is used for so I can't suggest an > alternative. Are these the only bootblock source for libdisk? Or just a It's used only for sysinstall currently - that's literally it. Hmmmmm... Given that, and the fact that other clients for it have not surfaced in the n years that libdisk has been with us, I suppose we could move it right under sysinstall? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 18:35:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06573 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:35:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06568; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:35:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id SAA16694; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:35:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:35:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310235.SAA16694@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/lib/libdisk Makefile libdisk.3 libdisk.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk jkh 1998/12/30 18:35:43 PST Modified files: lib/libdisk Makefile libdisk.3 libdisk.h Log: Eliminate all dependence on boot1 and boot2. This is passed in by Set_Boot_Blocks() anyway and should thus have never been a part of libdisk, it should have been provided by the client of libdisk since passing the information in is already part of the API. Revision Changes Path 1.25 +3 -19 src/lib/libdisk/Makefile 1.8 +2 -7 src/lib/libdisk/libdisk.3 1.30 +1 -2 src/lib/libdisk/libdisk.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 18:37:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06864 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:37:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06859; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:37:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA13872; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:37:09 -0800 (PST) To: John Birrell cc: peter@netplex.com.au (Peter Wemm), jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libdisk Makefile In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:10:31 +1100." <199812310210.NAA24116@cimlogic.com.au> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:37:09 -0800 Message-ID: <13868.915071829@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > libdisk should read the boot image/s at runtime instead of being built > into the library. Actually, now that I've gone and freakin' LOOKED at it rather than just idly speculating from memory, I see that there's no reason whatsoever for libdisk to need this information - there's already a published API function [Set_Boot_Blocks()] for doing this and it's really sysinstall's job to read the boot blocks in on libdisk's behalf. Fixing this now. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 19:02:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA09305 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 19:02:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09295; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 19:02:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/Netplex) with ESMTP id LAA88898; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:02:06 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199812310302.LAA88898@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: John Birrell , jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libdisk Makefile In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:37:09 PST." <13868.915071829@zippy.cdrom.com> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:02:04 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > libdisk should read the boot image/s at runtime instead of being built > > into the library. > > Actually, now that I've gone and freakin' LOOKED at it rather than > just idly speculating from memory, I see that there's no reason Oh no.. Now you've REALLY done it! :-) > whatsoever for libdisk to need this information - there's already a > published API function [Set_Boot_Blocks()] for doing this and it's > really sysinstall's job to read the boot blocks in on libdisk's > behalf. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 19:21:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11086 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 19:21:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11079; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 19:21:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@FreeBSD.org) From: KATO Takenori Received: (from kato@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA23066; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 19:21:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 19:21:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310321.TAA23066@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa if_fe.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk kato 1998/12/30 19:21:15 PST Modified files: sys/i386/isa if_fe.c Log: Another(better) way to support Access/NOTE N98(PC-98) without any effects for other Access/PC series. Submitted by: Chiharu Shibata Revision Changes Path 1.46 +7 -6 src/sys/i386/isa/if_fe.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 19:23:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11470 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 19:23:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11464; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 19:23:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@FreeBSD.org) From: KATO Takenori Received: (from kato@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA23452; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 19:23:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 19:23:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310323.TAA23452@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pc98/pc98 if_ed.c if_ed98.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk kato 1998/12/30 19:23:40 PST Modified files: sys/pc98/pc98 if_ed.c if_ed98.h Log: Add SMC EtherEZ98 support(PC-98). Slim up of if_ed98.h. Submitted by: Chiharu Shibata Revision Changes Path 1.57 +13 -1 src/sys/pc98/pc98/if_ed.c 1.17 +51 -61 src/sys/pc98/pc98/if_ed98.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 21:40:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23226 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:40:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23220; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:40:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nectar@FreeBSD.org) From: Jacques Vidrine Received: (from nectar@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA07569; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:40:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:40:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310540.VAA07569@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11-toolkits/pygtk Makefile ports/x11-toolkits/pygtk/files md5 ports/x11-toolkits/pygtk/patches patch-aa ports/x11-toolkits/pygtk/pkg DESCR PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk nectar 1998/12/30 21:40:15 PST Modified files: x11-toolkits/pygtk Makefile x11-toolkits/pygtk/files md5 x11-toolkits/pygtk/pkg DESCR PLIST Removed files: x11-toolkits/pygtk/patches patch-aa Log: Upgrade to 0.5.9. Revision Changes Path 1.15 +9 -18 ports/x11-toolkits/pygtk/Makefile 1.5 +1 -1 ports/x11-toolkits/pygtk/files/md5 1.2 +13 -14 ports/x11-toolkits/pygtk/pkg/DESCR 1.5 +51 -40 ports/x11-toolkits/pygtk/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 22:20:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27092 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:20:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27087; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:20:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@FreeBSD.org) From: Warner Losh Received: (from imp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA10444; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:20:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:20:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310620.WAA10444@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src UPDATING Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk imp 1998/12/30 22:20:01 PST Modified files: . UPDATING Log: Add impending flag day for ELF. Make notes about elf userland and elf kernel forced migration happening soon. While still incomplete, and there may be showstoppers along the way, the advise given here is not incorrect. Submitted indirectly by: jdk, peter wemm Revision Changes Path 1.3 +8 -1 src/UPDATING To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 22:29:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27799 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:29:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27794; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:29:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@FreeBSD.org) From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA11599; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:29:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:29:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310629.WAA11599@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en docs.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ache 1998/12/30 22:29:17 PST Modified files: en docs.sgml Log: link Russian FAQ Revision Changes Path 1.58 +7 -4 www/en/docs.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 22:30:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27942 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:30:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27925 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:30:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA23616; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:24:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA07777; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:24:53 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:24:53 -0700 Message-Id: <199812310624.XAA07777@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Mike Smith Cc: Nate Williams , Poul-Henning Kamp , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. In-Reply-To: <199812310054.QAA00478@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <199812302359.QAA06821@mt.sri.com> <199812310054.QAA00478@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > >> Nutshell: Can anybody forsee the need to export symbol type to userland? > > > >> > > > >No, the obvious solution is to improve and expand the sysctl interface, > > > >which already provides size and type information. > > > > > > It would be trivial to implement in a sysctl, and we can even do it > > > as > > > sysctl kern.nlist.val.avenrun > > > sysctl kern.nlist.type.avenrun > > > if you want to... > > > > What about 'loadable' drivers that may have multiple symbols for > > multiple interfaces, ala network cards? > > > > kern.nlist.ed0.softc? > > Eugh. I think we're at cross purposes here. Exporting the kernel > symbol table for debugging purposes is one thing, exporting entities > out of the kernel for eg. statistical operations is another entirely. What about for things such as interrupt counts, collisions, and such. These aren't debugging issues, but do exist on a per-card basis. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 22:36:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28629 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:36:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28624; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:36:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@FreeBSD.org) From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA12686; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:36:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:36:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310636.WAA12686@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: doc/ru/FAQ misc.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ache 1998/12/30 22:36:29 PST Modified files: ru/FAQ misc.sgml Log: typo Revision Changes Path 1.2 +2 -2 doc/ru/FAQ/misc.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 23:28:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02750 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:28:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02745; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:28:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@FreeBSD.org) From: Luigi Rizzo Received: (from luigi@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA16018; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:28:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:28:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310728.XAA16018@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa/snd CARDS Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk luigi 1998/12/30 23:28:27 PST Modified files: sys/i386/isa/snd CARDS Log: Update documentation on cards and config Revision Changes Path 1.6 +103 -22 src/sys/i386/isa/snd/CARDS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 23:34:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03282 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:34:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03277; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:34:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@FreeBSD.org) From: Luigi Rizzo Received: (from luigi@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA16513; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:34:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:34:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310734.XAA16513@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa/snd ad1848.c dmabuf.c sb_dsp.c sound.c sound.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk luigi 1998/12/30 23:34:02 PST Modified files: sys/i386/isa/snd ad1848.c dmabuf.c sb_dsp.c sound.c sound.h Log: Extend the callback mechanism and add hooks to support PCI cards. Remove a few unused variables. Revision Changes Path 1.18 +11 -22 src/sys/i386/isa/snd/ad1848.c 1.11 +43 -16 src/sys/i386/isa/snd/dmabuf.c 1.16 +0 -5 src/sys/i386/isa/snd/sb_dsp.c 1.23 +102 -53 src/sys/i386/isa/snd/sound.c 1.10 +13 -0 src/sys/i386/isa/snd/sound.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 23:35:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03561 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:35:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03553; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:35:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@FreeBSD.org) From: Luigi Rizzo Received: (from luigi@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA16748; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:35:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:35:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310735.XAA16748@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_dummynet.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk luigi 1998/12/30 23:35:49 PST Modified files: sys/netinet ip_dummynet.c Log: Remove some unused variables. Revision Changes Path 1.3 +4 -4 src/sys/netinet/ip_dummynet.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 23:43:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04126 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:43:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04121; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:43:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@FreeBSD.org) From: Luigi Rizzo Received: (from luigi@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA17779; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:43:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:43:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310743.XAA17779@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_fw.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk luigi 1998/12/30 23:43:30 PST Modified files: sys/netinet ip_fw.c Log: Partial fix for when ipfw is used with bridging. Bridged packets have all fields in network order, whereas ipfw expects some to be in host order. This resulted in some incorrect matching, e.g. some packets being identified as fragments, or bandwidth not being correctly enforced. NOTE: this only affects bridge+ipfw, normal ipfw usage was already correct). Reported-By: Dave Alden and others. Revision Changes Path 1.103 +22 -24 src/sys/netinet/ip_fw.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 23:52:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05049 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:52:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA05044 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:52:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id GAA19458; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:43:20 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199812310543.GAA19458@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: ES1370 audio driver -- where do i put it ? To: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:43:20 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk The recent commits to the pcm driver were meant to integrate Joackim's driver for ES1370-based cards. Being a PCI card i'd put the relevant files (es1370.c and es1370_reg.h) in /sys/pci; however, at the moment this is a i386-specific piece of code (although it used absolutely no ISA functionality so chances are that it works with minor fixes on the Alpha as well). So, is the location ok, or perhaps it should go in /sys/i386/isa/snd with the other "pcm" files ? cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 30 23:52:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05248 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:52:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05243; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:52:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@FreeBSD.org) From: Luigi Rizzo Received: (from luigi@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA19162; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:52:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:52:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310752.XAA19162@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/net bridge.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk luigi 1998/12/30 23:52:50 PST Modified files: sys/net bridge.c Log: Remove one unused variable. Revision Changes Path 1.4 +1 -2 src/sys/net/bridge.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 00:00:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05590 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:00:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05585 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:00:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/Netplex) with ESMTP id QAA90152; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:00:11 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199812310800.QAA90152@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ES1370 audio driver -- where do i put it ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:43:20 +0100." <199812310543.GAA19458@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:00:06 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Luigi Rizzo wrote: > The recent commits to the pcm driver were meant to integrate Joackim's > driver for ES1370-based cards. > > Being a PCI card i'd put the relevant files (es1370.c and > es1370_reg.h) in /sys/pci; however, at the moment this is a > i386-specific piece of code (although it used absolutely no ISA > functionality so chances are that it works with minor fixes on the > Alpha as well). So, is the location ok, or perhaps it should go in > /sys/i386/isa/snd with the other "pcm" files ? Well, on the offchance that the sound code that is currently in the isa directories becomes portable to ISA busses in general, having the PCI driver already in sys/pci would mean one less file to copy or reorganize. Also, there is a precedent: sys/i386/isa/if_ed* and sys/pci/if_ed_p.c (the pci glue). So, stick it in sys/pci unless there's absolutely zero chance that it'll ever be used on something other than i386. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 00:01:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05835 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:01:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05830; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:01:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@FreeBSD.org) From: Warner Losh Received: (from imp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA20432; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:01:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:01:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310801.AAA20432@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src UPDATING Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk imp 1998/12/31 00:01:12 PST Modified files: . UPDATING Log: Added notes about upcoming uid/gid mta for the postfix integration. Suggested by: peter Also reworked the 981230 section in light of a better understanding of what is in the pipeline. Revision Changes Path 1.4 +11 -5 src/UPDATING To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 00:04:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05952 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:04:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05947; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:04:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@FreeBSD.org) From: Luigi Rizzo Received: (from luigi@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA20845; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:03:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:03:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310803.AAA20845@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf LINT Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk luigi 1998/12/31 00:03:53 PST Modified files: sys/i386/conf LINT Log: Enable entries for DUMMYNET, BRIDGE and device pcm. LINT compiles fine with these enabled. Revision Changes Path 1.524 +11 -14 src/sys/i386/conf/LINT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 00:14:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA06849 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:14:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06844; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:14:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@FreeBSD.org) From: Luigi Rizzo Received: (from luigi@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA22492; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:14:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:14:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310814.AAA22492@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pci es1370.c es1370_reg.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk luigi 1998/12/31 00:14:27 PST Added files: sys/pci es1370.c es1370_reg.h Log: Add Joachim Kuebart's ES1370 driver. With my Shuttle HOT-255 card, this has a problem with capture but i am not sure if it is related to the mixer or what else. But in the meantime, this is ok to listen to mpegs. I also have a much simpler version of the driver in the works which reuses a lot more of the existing "pcm" routines. Next year... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 00:17:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07170 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:17:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07165; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:17:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@FreeBSD.org) From: Luigi Rizzo Received: (from luigi@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA22882; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:17:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:17:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310817.AAA22882@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf files.i386 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk luigi 1998/12/31 00:17:09 PST Modified files: sys/i386/conf files.i386 Log: Enable the ES1370 driver. You don't need any options for this, the existing "device pcm..." entry will take care of that. Revision Changes Path 1.216 +2 -1 src/sys/i386/conf/files.i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 01:17:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA10463 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:17:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA10458; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:17:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@FreeBSD.org) From: Peter Wemm Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA00597; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:17:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:17:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812310917.BAA00597@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/kern link_elf.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk peter 1998/12/31 01:17:20 PST Modified files: sys/kern link_elf.c Log: When loading something that has undefined symbols, it would be helpful to know what they were.. Revision Changes Path 1.11 +13 -5 src/sys/kern/link_elf.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 01:21:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA11060 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:21:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.175.2.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA11045; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:21:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:21:09 -0800 (PST) From: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu Message-Id: <199812310921.BAA11045@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from ren.eecis.udel.edu by mail.eecis.udel.edu id aa09620; 31 Dec 1998 04:02 EST To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. Organization: Mos Eisley Candy Store Reply-To: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In Reply to Your Message of Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03: 57:08 PST Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:02:31 -0500 From: Jerry Alexandratos Message-ID: <199812310402.aa09620@mail.eecis.udel.edu> "Jonathan M. Bresler" says: : : Starting later today, I will import Postfix (aka VMailer : aka SecureMailer from IBM) into the tree under /usr/src/contrib. : Postfix was written by Wietse Venema (tcp_wrappers, satan, etc). Just to play "devil's advocate" I have a question. Why put Postfix in the tree instead of making it a port? The only reason I ask is because exim and qmail are ports instead of being in the tree. --Jerry 8) Jerry Alexandratos % - % "Nothing inhabits my (8 8) alexandr@louie.udel.edu % - % thoughts, and oblivion (8 8) darkstar@strauss.udel.edu % - % drives my desires." (8 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 03:39:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19779 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 03:39:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA19774; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 03:39:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@FreeBSD.org) From: KATO Takenori Received: (from kato@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA16387; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 03:38:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 03:38:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311138.DAA16387@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pc98/conf files.pc98 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk kato 1998/12/31 03:38:53 PST Modified files: sys/pc98/conf files.pc98 Log: Enables snd driver. Revision Changes Path 1.78 +6 -6 src/sys/pc98/conf/files.pc98 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 03:58:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA21260 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 03:58:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA21254; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 03:58:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@FreeBSD.org) From: Luigi Rizzo Received: (from luigi@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA17078; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 03:58:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 03:58:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311158.DAA17078@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk luigi 1998/12/31 03:58:44 PST Modified files: . modules Log: cdd --> ports/audio/cdd Revision Changes Path 1.2654 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 04:02:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA22349 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:02:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA22344; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:02:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@FreeBSD.org) From: Luigi Rizzo Received: (from luigi@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA18364; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:02:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:02:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311202.EAA18364@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/audio/cdd - Imported sources Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk luigi 1998/12/31 04:02:04 PST ports/audio/cdd - Imported sources Update of /home/ncvs/ports/audio/cdd In directory freefall.freebsd.org:/d/users/luigi/CURRENT/ports/audio/cdd Log Message: cdd port grab audio tracks from CDs. This port is lobotomized and only works with atapi waiting for someone to do the scsi->cam modifications. (also, this is my first attempt with easy-import...) Status: Vendor Tag: LUIGI Release Tags: r1 N ports/audio/cdd/Makefile I ports/audio/cdd/CVS N ports/audio/cdd/files/md5 N ports/audio/cdd/files/cdd_atapicmds.h N ports/audio/cdd/files/cdd_atapicmds.c N ports/audio/cdd/patches/patch-aa N ports/audio/cdd/patches/patch-ab N ports/audio/cdd/patches/patch-ac N ports/audio/cdd/patches/patch-ad N ports/audio/cdd/patches/patch-ae N ports/audio/cdd/patches/patch-af N ports/audio/cdd/pkg/COMMENT N ports/audio/cdd/pkg/DESCR N ports/audio/cdd/pkg/PLIST No conflicts created by this import To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 04:09:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24372 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:09:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA24301 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:07:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA19944 for committers@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:57:39 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199812310957.KAA19944@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: can i add /usr/bin/pcmio ? To: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:57:38 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, i was wondering if it is the case to add a small, very basic audio I/O command called pcmio which lets you access the audio device changing format, sample rate, channels etc. Since it is so small, it is probably not worthwhile making a port of it. (Plus it is my idea that whenever possible, all devices should have in the base system a simple control utility for testing etc.) luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 04:13:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24801 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:13:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA24796; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:13:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@FreeBSD.org) From: Luigi Rizzo Received: (from luigi@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA18578; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:13:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:13:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311213.EAA18578@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/audio Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk luigi 1998/12/31 04:13:16 PST Modified files: audio Makefile Log: Enable cdd port Revision Changes Path 1.64 +2 -1 ports/audio/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 04:13:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25076 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:13:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA25047; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:13:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA26662; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:13:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:13:34 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons To: Warner Losh cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src UPDATING In-Reply-To: <199812310620.WAA10444@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Who's jdk? Jordan of Denmark? Jordan developer kit?? On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Warner Losh wrote: > imp 1998/12/30 22:20:01 PST > > Modified files: > . UPDATING > Log: > Add impending flag day for ELF. Make notes about elf userland and elf > kernel forced migration happening soon. > > While still incomplete, and there may be showstoppers along the way, > the advise given here is not incorrect. > > Submitted indirectly by: jdk, peter wemm > > Revision Changes Path > 1.3 +8 -1 src/UPDATING > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 04:17:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25268 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:17:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA25263 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:17:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA29737; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:16:43 +1100 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:16:43 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199812311216.XAA29737@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: committers@FreeBSD.ORG, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it Subject: Re: can i add /usr/bin/pcmio ? Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >Since it is so small, it is probably not worthwhile making a port >of it. (Plus it is my idea that whenever possible, all devices >should have in the base system a simple control utility for testing >etc.) These utilities are usually named /usr/sbin/foocontrol or /sbin/foocontrol. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 04:29:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25643 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:29:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA25634 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:28:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA20069; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:18:43 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199812311018.LAA20069@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: can i add /usr/bin/pcmio ? To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:18:43 +0100 (MET) Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199812311216.XAA29737@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Dec 31, 98 11:16:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > >of it. (Plus it is my idea that whenever possible, all devices > >should have in the base system a simple control utility for testing > >etc.) > > These utilities are usually named /usr/sbin/foocontrol or /sbin/foocontrol. BTW: there are two spppcontrol... the one in /usr/sbin is apparently a dynamically-linked version of the one in /sbin luigi rizzo# ls -l /sbin/*control /usr/sbin/*control -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 113152 Dec 30 07:42 /sbin/camcontrol -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 43568 Dec 30 07:42 /sbin/comcontrol -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 45560 Dec 30 07:42 /sbin/spppcontrol -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13936 Dec 30 07:47 /usr/sbin/cdcontrol -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4152 Dec 30 07:48 /usr/sbin/fdcontrol -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 25332 Dec 30 07:47 /usr/sbin/kbdcontrol -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324 Dec 30 07:48 /usr/sbin/lptcontrol -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3612 Dec 30 07:48 /usr/sbin/rndcontrol -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9288 Dec 30 07:48 /usr/sbin/sicontrol -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5244 Dec 30 07:47 /usr/sbin/spppcontrol -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10392 Dec 30 07:48 /usr/sbin/vidcontrol -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4492 Dec 30 07:48 /usr/sbin/wormcontrol > > Bruce > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 04:55:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA27299 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:55:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA27290; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:55:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14472; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:01:36 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:01:36 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Warner Losh cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src UPDATING In-Reply-To: <199812310620.WAA10444@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Warner Losh wrote: > imp 1998/12/30 22:20:01 PST > Submitted indirectly by: jdk, peter wemm ^^^ And who's that? :-) Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 05:23:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29569 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:23:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29564; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:23:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@FreeBSD.org) From: Bruce Evans Received: (from bde@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA20177; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:23:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:23:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311323.FAA20177@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/sys proc.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk bde 1998/12/31 05:23:17 PST Modified files: sys/sys proc.h Log: Removed garbage sloppy-common variable `pasleep'. Fixed other style bugs in previous commit. Revision Changes Path 1.65 +7 -9 src/sys/sys/proc.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 05:30:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29888 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:30:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29862; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:30:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:30:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311330.FAA29862@hub.freebsd.org> From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu CC: committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199812310921.BAA11045@hub.freebsd.org> (alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu) Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. References: <199812310921.BAA11045@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:21:09 -0800 (PST) > From: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu > > Just to play "devil's advocate" I have a question. Why put Postfix in > the tree instead of making it a port? The only reason I ask is because > exim and qmail are ports instead of being in the tree. well....that's a sticky question, we quickly get into the realm of opinion, opinion based upon running the FreeBSD mailing lists for several years (and other sources) but opinion none the less. Postfix is the only one of the three that I believe may become a standard mailer with the robustness, efficiency and support that is required. Postfix has proven to be an excellent mta for the FreeBSD mailing lists (you've been soaking in it for months). jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 05:39:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00700 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:39:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00695; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:39:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@FreeBSD.org) From: "Dag-Erling C. Sm\xf8rgrav" Received: (from des@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA20544; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:38:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:38:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311338.FAA20544@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/syscons/warp Makefile warp_saver.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk des 1998/12/31 05:38:59 PST Modified files: sys/modules/syscons/warp Makefile warp_saver.c Log: Compile without warnings. Revision Changes Path 1.2 +2 -1 src/sys/modules/syscons/warp/Makefile 1.3 +4 -4 src/sys/modules/syscons/warp/warp_saver.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 05:40:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00966 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:40:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00961; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:40:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@FreeBSD.org) From: "Dag-Erling C. Sm\xf8rgrav" Received: (from des@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA20616; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:40:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:40:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311340.FAA20616@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/syscons saver.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk des 1998/12/31 05:40:27 PST Modified files: sys/modules/syscons saver.h Log: Eliminate "initialization from incompatible type" warning in SAVER_MODULE macro. Revision Changes Path 1.14 +3 -4 src/sys/modules/syscons/saver.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 05:41:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA01004 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:41:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00999; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:41:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@FreeBSD.org) From: "Dag-Erling C. Sm\xf8rgrav" Received: (from des@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA20725; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:41:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:41:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311341.FAA20725@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/syscons/rain Makefile rain_saver.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk des 1998/12/31 05:41:41 PST Added files: sys/modules/syscons/rain Makefile rain_saver.c Log: Here's one for the terminally melancholic amongst us. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 05:42:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA01050 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:42:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA01045; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:42:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@FreeBSD.org) From: "Dag-Erling C. Sm\xf8rgrav" Received: (from des@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA20762; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:42:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:42:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311342.FAA20762@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/syscons Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk des 1998/12/31 05:42:00 PST Modified files: sys/modules/syscons Makefile Log: Activate the rain screensaver. Revision Changes Path 1.7 +2 -2 src/sys/modules/syscons/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 05:44:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA01163 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:44:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA01155; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:44:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@FreeBSD.org) From: Andrzej Bialecki Received: (from abial@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA20814; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:44:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:44:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311344.FAA20814@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/i386/libi386 vidconsole.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk abial 1998/12/31 05:44:05 PST Modified files: sys/boot/i386/libi386 vidconsole.c Log: Add back ability to make beeps when using new TERM_EMU. Submitted by: W Gerald Hicks Revision Changes Path 1.10 +15 -6 src/sys/boot/i386/libi386/vidconsole.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 05:53:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA01619 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:53:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA01614; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:53:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@FreeBSD.org) From: Luigi Rizzo Received: (from luigi@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA21323; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:53:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:53:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311353.FAA21323@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sbin/ipfw ipfw.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk luigi 1998/12/31 05:53:37 PST Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_2_2) sbin/ipfw ipfw.c Log: MFC - PR bin/8937 Revision Changes Path 1.34.2.22 +4 -1 src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 06:03:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02592 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:03:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02586; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:03:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 0zvieE-0006Pb-00; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:00:22 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:30:42 PST." <199812311330.FAA29862@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:00:22 +0200 Message-ID: <24650.915112822@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:30:42 PST, "Jonathan M. Bresler" wrote: > well....that's a sticky question, we quickly get into the realm of > opinion You're right, and I have no wish to pour fuel on menacing embers. However, I would like to suggest that it might be more appropriate as a port until FreeBSD starts shipping _without_ sendmail. It seems silly to have both in the src tree. If this comment does not generate a "Wow, he's absolutely right", I beseech fellow list members to leave it alone altogether. It's only an opinion and doesn't require discussion if it isn't massively supported by people who count. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 06:03:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02862 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:03:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02850; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:03:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@FreeBSD.org) From: Andrzej Bialecki Received: (from abial@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id GAA21910; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:03:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:03:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311403.GAA21910@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/ficl words.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk abial 1998/12/31 06:03:29 PST Modified files: sys/boot/ficl words.c Log: Add support for some FACILITY words: key? ( -- flag) \ check to see if there's a key to be read from input ms ( u -- ) \ wait that many milliseconds seconds ( -- u ) \ get number of seconds from midnight. 'words' now outputs the list page by page - this probably should go through libstand's pager, but will have to wait for closer integration of built-ins with Forth... Submitted partially by: W Gerald Hicks Revision Changes Path 1.14 +74 -1 src/sys/boot/ficl/words.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 06:06:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA03161 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:06:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA03156; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:06:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@FreeBSD.org) From: Andrzej Bialecki Received: (from abial@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id GAA22089; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:06:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:06:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311406.GAA22089@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/share/examples/bootforth menu.4th Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk abial 1998/12/31 06:06:31 PST Modified files: share/examples/bootforth menu.4th Log: Add timeout to boot menu. Submitted by: W Gerald Hicks Revision Changes Path 1.2 +24 -2 src/share/examples/bootforth/menu.4th To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 06:26:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05135 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:26:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05130; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:26:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id GAA22611; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:26:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:26:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311426.GAA22611@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/sys copyright.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wosch 1998/12/31 06:26:42 PST Modified files: sys/sys copyright.h Log: Happy 1999! Revision Changes Path 1.5 +2 -2 src/sys/sys/copyright.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 06:29:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05294 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:29:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05289; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:29:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id GAA22729; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:28:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:28:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311428.GAA22729@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en includes.sgml index.sgml www/en/copyright freebsd-license.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wosch 1998/12/31 06:28:59 PST Modified files: en includes.sgml index.sgml en/copyright freebsd-license.sgml Log: Happy 1999! Revision Changes Path 1.22 +2 -2 www/en/includes.sgml 1.41 +3 -3 www/en/index.sgml 1.3 +3 -3 www/en/copyright/freebsd-license.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 06:39:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06107 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:39:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA06092; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:39:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id XAA21888; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:39:07 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <368B8CD8.7737E622@newsguy.com> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:40:24 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" CC: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.eud, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. References: <199812310921.BAA11045@hub.freebsd.org> <199812311330.FAA29862@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk "Jonathan M. Bresler" wrote: > > > Just to play "devil's advocate" I have a question. Why put Postfix in > > the tree instead of making it a port? The only reason I ask is because > > exim and qmail are ports instead of being in the tree. > > well....that's a sticky question, we quickly get into the realm of > opinion, opinion based upon running the FreeBSD mailing lists for > several years (and other sources) but opinion none the less. > > Postfix is the only one of the three that I believe may become a > standard mailer with the robustness, efficiency and support that is > required. Postfix has proven to be an excellent mta for the FreeBSD > mailing lists (you've been soaking in it for months). Well, I guess that kind of skirts the question. Why not just a port? Ok, let's assume Postfix is the best one of them, I still can't see why it would need to be committed to the tree, unless as a replacement for Sendmail (meaning, sendmail gets the kick). This just looks live the pcvt/syscons vs unified console issue. As horrible as sendmail is, I doubt we could remove it from the source without a major riot. So, what it is GAINED by having Postfix in the contrib instead of the ports? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com "Heart like a Gabriel, pure and white as ivory, soul like a lucifer, black and cold as a piece of lead." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 06:57:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07661 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:57:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07641; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:57:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:57:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311457.GAA07641@hub.freebsd.org> From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: dcs@newsguy.com CC: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.eud, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <368B8CD8.7737E622@newsguy.com> (dcs@newsguy.com) Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. References: <199812310921.BAA11045@hub.freebsd.org> <199812311330.FAA29862@hub.freebsd.org> <368B8CD8.7737E622@newsguy.com> Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:40:24 +0900 > From: "Daniel C. Sobral" > > As horrible as sendmail is, I doubt we could remove it from the > source without a major riot. So, what it is GAINED by having Postfix > in the contrib instead of the ports? for many of our users sendmail.cf is a major hurdle. i know i have made money customizing sendmail.cf for people. postfix does the common sendmail.cf reconfiguration issues and does them in a way that people can roll their own and wont have to pay people like me. (hey....wait a minute....why am i doing this. ;) canonicalization, virtual hosts, spam control, etc. the .mc files go a long way to making this easier, but people still flounder. sendmail is a necessity for many sites. FreeBSD is very popular in the ISP segment and arbitrary re-writing and locally defined mailers are important to them. Sendmail is GREAT....achieving greatness takes dedicated effort. not everyone is up to the task or even wants to be great. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 07:11:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08748 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 07:11:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08742; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 07:10:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA80610; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:10:28 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA00728; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:10:26 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199812311510.RAA00728@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: "Daniel C. Sobral" cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.eud, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: Your message of " Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:40:24 +0900." <368B8CD8.7737E622@newsguy.com> References: <199812310921.BAA11045@hub.freebsd.org> <199812311330.FAA29862@hub.freebsd.org> <368B8CD8.7737E622@newsguy.com> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:10:22 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > As horrible as sendmail is, I doubt we could remove it from the > source without a major riot. So, what it is GAINED by having Postfix > in the contrib instead of the ports? We gain the ability to emphasise Postfix and de-emphasise Sendmail. After an appropriate period, we gain the ability to nuke Sendmail as Postfix has been solidly tested/used/ported/integrated for "long enough". No combustion over definitions of "long enough", please :-). M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 07:18:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09701 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 07:18:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09670; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 07:18:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id AAA25717; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 00:17:28 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <368B957A.AF6A49ED@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 00:17:14 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Murray CC: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.eud, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. References: <199812310921.BAA11045@hub.freebsd.org> <199812311330.FAA29862@hub.freebsd.org> <368B8CD8.7737E622@newsguy.com> <199812311510.RAA00728@greenpeace.grondar.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Mark Murray wrote: > > We gain the ability to emphasise Postfix and de-emphasise Sendmail. > After an appropriate period, we gain the ability to nuke Sendmail > as Postfix has been solidly tested/used/ported/integrated for > "long enough". No combustion over definitions of "long enough", > please :-). Well, be my guest, and please send prvt mail to me warning you are going to announce this decision, so I can unsubscribe from the lists first. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com "Heart like a Gabriel, pure and white as ivory, soul like a lucifer, black and cold as a piece of lead." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 07:20:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09874 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 07:20:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09869; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 07:20:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA18319; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 07:20:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 07:20:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311520.HAA18319@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/devel/glib11-devel Makefile ports/devel/glib11-devel/files md5 ports/devel/glib11-devel/patches patch-aa Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/31 07:20:12 PST Modified files: devel/glib11-devel Makefile devel/glib11-devel/files md5 devel/glib11-devel/patches patch-aa Log: Upgrade to 1.1.11. Revision Changes Path 1.11 +3 -3 ports/devel/glib11-devel/Makefile 1.8 +1 -1 ports/devel/glib11-devel/files/md5 1.5 +27 -19 ports/devel/glib11-devel/patches/patch-aa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 07:37:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11618 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 07:37:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat1262.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.186.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11600; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 07:37:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA13996; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:36:28 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:36:28 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: "Daniel C. Sobral" cc: Mark Murray , "Jonathan M. Bresler" , alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.eud, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: <368B957A.AF6A49ED@newsguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 1 Jan 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Mark Murray wrote: > > > > We gain the ability to emphasise Postfix and de-emphasise Sendmail. > > After an appropriate period, we gain the ability to nuke Sendmail > > as Postfix has been solidly tested/used/ported/integrated for > > "long enough". No combustion over definitions of "long enough", > > please :-). > > Well, be my guest, and please send prvt mail to me warning you are > going to announce this decision, so I can unsubscribe from the lists > first. :-) Here here...I trust and like sendmail, and have no intentions of switching from it... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 07:54:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13227 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 07:54:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13222 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 07:54:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA03627; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:53:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:53:59 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199812311553.KAA03627@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Nate Williams Cc: Mike Smith , Poul-Henning Kamp , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. In-Reply-To: <199812310624.XAA07777@mt.sri.com> References: <199812302359.QAA06821@mt.sri.com> <199812310054.QAA00478@dingo.cdrom.com> <199812310624.XAA07777@mt.sri.com> Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk < said: > What about for things such as interrupt counts, collisions, and such. > These aren't debugging issues, but do exist on a per-card basis. There are already mechanisms for handing this information. In the first case, it's devstat(3); in the second case, it ifmib(4). -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 08:07:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14383 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:07:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14378; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:07:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA19950; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:07:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:07:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311607.IAA19950@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/devel/ORBit Makefile ports/devel/ORBit/files md5 ports/devel/ORBit/patches patch-aa Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/31 08:07:49 PST Modified files: devel/ORBit Makefile devel/ORBit/files md5 devel/ORBit/patches patch-aa Log: Upgrade to 0.3.90 Revision Changes Path 1.9 +3 -3 ports/devel/ORBit/Makefile 1.4 +1 -1 ports/devel/ORBit/files/md5 1.4 +36 -64 ports/devel/ORBit/patches/patch-aa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 08:10:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14769 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:10:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oldnews.quick.net ([207.212.170.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14763; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:10:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from donegan@oldnews.quick.net) Received: (from donegan@localhost) by oldnews.quick.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id IAA26621; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:10:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:10:26 -0800 (PST) From: "Steven P. Donegan" To: The Hermit Hacker cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , Mark Murray , "Jonathan M. Bresler" , alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.eud, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > Here here...I trust and like sendmail, and have no intentions of > switching from it... > Not to flame at all - but what wonderful things does postfix bring that would induce anyone to move away from sendmail? Move from something that works in the millions of systems, is understood by vast numbers of sys admins, etc? If postfix can do something sendmail can't what is it? And an answer that it's easier to configure isn't really valid for us lifer sendmail folks :-) My 'vote' on this subject is leave postfix in ports, not in the contrib tree. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 08:16:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15323 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:16:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15286; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:15:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:15:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311615.IAA15286@hub.freebsd.org> From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: mark@grondar.za CC: dcs@newsguy.com, alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.eud, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199812311510.RAA00728@greenpeace.grondar.za> (message from Mark Murray on Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:10:22 +0200) Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. References: <199812310921.BAA11045@hub.freebsd.org> <199812311330.FAA29862@hub.freebsd.org> <368B8CD8.7737E622@newsguy.com> <199812311510.RAA00728@greenpeace.grondar.za> Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:10:22 +0200 > From: Mark Murray > > We gain the ability to emphasise Postfix and de-emphasise Sendmail. > After an appropriate period, we gain the ability to nuke Sendmail > as Postfix has been solidly tested/used/ported/integrated for > "long enough". No combustion over definitions of "long enough", > please :-). WHOA!!!!! what if no one else likes postfix. postfix is coming into the tree as /usr/src/contrib. sendmail is the default mail transfer agent. individual users can switch either machines to use postfix as the mta. there is no intention of removing sendmail from the tree. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 08:22:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15895 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:22:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15868; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:22:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) From: Bill Fumerola Received: (from billf@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA20497; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:21:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:21:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311621.IAA20497@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/find find.1 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk billf 1998/12/31 08:21:52 PST Modified files: usr.bin/find find.1 Log: Typo - "the -delete primary do not.." -> "the -delete primary does not.." PR: docs/9255 Submitted by: Christian Weisgerber Revision Changes Path 1.18 +2 -2 src/usr.bin/find/find.1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 08:23:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16135 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:23:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16125; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:23:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA32924; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:23:02 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA60127; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:22:57 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199812311622.SAA60127@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: "Steven P. Donegan" cc: The Hermit Hacker , "Daniel C. Sobral" , "Jonathan M. Bresler" , committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: Your message of " Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:10:26 PST." References: Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:22:55 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk "Steven P. Donegan" wrote: > Not to flame at all - but what wonderful things does postfix bring that > would induce anyone to move away from sendmail? Move from something that > works in the millions of systems, is understood by vast numbers of sys > admins, etc? If postfix can do something sendmail can't what is it? And > an answer that it's easier to configure isn't really valid for us lifer > sendmail folks :-) 1) Vastly easier to configure :-). (Very valid for newbies). 2) A heck of a lot more efficient. Sendmail is designed to work; this is designed to work _fast_. 3) More secure. The author is security-paranoid. This is good. 4) So far (apart from myself) I have seen no rumblings at all about removing Sendmail. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 08:42:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18067 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:42:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oldnews.quick.net ([207.212.170.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18058; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:42:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from donegan@oldnews.quick.net) Received: (from donegan@localhost) by oldnews.quick.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id IAA26697; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:41:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:41:33 -0800 (PST) From: "Steven P. Donegan" To: Mark Murray cc: The Hermit Hacker , "Daniel C. Sobral" , "Jonathan M. Bresler" , committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: <199812311622.SAA60127@greenpeace.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Mark Murray wrote: > > 1) Vastly easier to configure :-). (Very valid for newbies). For me and vast numbers of 'old' hands this is not any form of plus, if anything it's a minus (new, unneccessary to learn change). > 2) A heck of a lot more efficient. Sendmail is designed to work; > this is designed to work _fast_. A possible plus for the (I think) minority where sendmail poses any performance issues - I found sendmail to be quite capable of a hundred thousand or so transactions per hour - for the few who need more - make it a port - not the default... > 3) More secure. The author is security-paranoid. This is good. I appreciate that - however, the vast amount of sendmail literate folks tend to make security fixes to bugs real-time, how many postfix internals literate folks are there besides the author? > 4) So far (apart from myself) I have seen no rumblings at all > about removing Sendmail. > I have a definite rumble about removing sendmail - making postfix a port is great, making it the default and/or removing sendmail is IMHO a really non-smart idea until postfix proves itself. What's the rush? If it's such a great thing the masses will start asking for it, let it mature in the ports area until enough people ask for it to be the default. Don't remove something that everyone uses and don't bloat the distribution without a good reason. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 08:48:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18758 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:48:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cantor.boolean.net (cantor.boolean.net [209.133.111.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18736; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:48:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Kurt@OpenLDAP.Org) Received: from gypsy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cantor.boolean.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA02013; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:49:45 GMT (envelope-from Kurt@OpenLDAP.Org) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981231084851.00979830@localhost> X-Sender: guru@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:48:51 -0800 To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" From: "Kurt D. Zeilenga" Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. Cc: mark@grondar.za, dcs@newsguy.com, alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.eud, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199812311615.IAA15286@hub.freebsd.org> References: <199812311510.RAA00728@greenpeace.grondar.za> <199812310921.BAA11045@hub.freebsd.org> <199812311330.FAA29862@hub.freebsd.org> <368B8CD8.7737E622@newsguy.com> <199812311510.RAA00728@greenpeace.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk At 08:15 AM 12/31/98 -0800, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: >there is no intention of removing sendmail from the tree. >jmb IMHO, Postfix should only be added to the tree if the intention is to remove sendmail. Since the intention is not to remove sendmail, postfix should be a port. Kurt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 09:01:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20125 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:01:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oldnews.quick.net ([207.212.170.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20119; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:01:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from donegan@oldnews.quick.net) Received: (from donegan@localhost) by oldnews.quick.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA26749; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:00:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:00:49 -0800 (PST) From: "Steven P. Donegan" To: Mark Murray cc: The Hermit Hacker , "Daniel C. Sobral" , "Jonathan M. Bresler" , committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: <199812311622.SAA60127@greenpeace.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Mark Murray wrote: > "Steven P. Donegan" wrote: > > Not to flame at all OK, now I think I'm going to put a mild heat on... neither postfix, nor it's 'older' name vmailer - appear to exist in ports, so I see no possibility that any significant number of FreeBSD users has played with this code - thus it's definitely not ready to replace anything. Add to ports - yes. the errata on the code on the postfix site indicates that it is beta, has definite known bugs (of what significance I don't know). And, although the author is well known and respected, I won't want to run such mission critical code without a long-term tire-kicking process. A definite no to this code replacing anything for a while... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 09:15:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21471 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:15:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21465; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:15:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA72989; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:14:48 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA09136; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:14:47 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199812311714.TAA09136@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: dcs@newsguy.com, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: Your message of " Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:15:54 PST." <199812311615.IAA15286@hub.freebsd.org> References: <199812310921.BAA11045@hub.freebsd.org> <199812311330.FAA29862@hub.freebsd.org> <368B8CD8.7737E622@newsguy.com> <199812311510.RAA00728@greenpeace.grondar.za> <199812311615.IAA15286@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:14:45 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk "Jonathan M. Bresler" wrote: > > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:10:22 +0200 > > From: Mark Murray > > > > We gain the ability to emphasise Postfix and de-emphasise Sendmail. > > After an appropriate period, we gain the ability to nuke Sendmail > > as Postfix has been solidly tested/used/ported/integrated for > > "long enough". No combustion over definitions of "long enough", > > please :-). > > WHOA!!!!! *Screech!* OK - what I said came out all wrong; Sorry! I was attempting to answer the question, and I got a bit too literal and ahead of myself. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 09:18:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21873 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:18:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21868; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:18:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA23382; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:18:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:18:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311718.JAA23382@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/31 09:18:30 PST Modified files: . modules Log: ppxp --> ports/net/ppxp Revision Changes Path 1.2655 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 09:19:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21923 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:19:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21918; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:19:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wpaul@FreeBSD.org) From: Bill Paul Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA23427; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:19:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:19:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311719.JAA23427@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/pci if_pn.c if_pnreg.h Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk wpaul 1998/12/31 09:19:22 PST Modified files: sys/pci if_pn.c if_pnreg.h Log: This commit adds a software workaround for a hardware bug in certain PNIC chip revisions. (A buggy taiwanese chip? I'm just shocked; shocked I tell you.) So far I have only observed the anomalous behavior on board with PCI revision 33 chips. At the moment, this seems to include only the Netgear FA310-TX rev D1 boards with chips labeled NGMC169B. (Possibly this means it's an 82c169B part from Lite-On.) The bug only manifests itself in promiscuous mode, and usually only at 10Mbps half-duplex. (I have not observed the problem in full-duplex mode, and I don't think it ever happens at 100Mbps.) The bug appears to be in the receiver DMA engine. Normally, the chip is programmed with a linked list of receiver descriptors, each with a receive buffer capable of holding a complete full-sized ethernet frame. During periods of heavy traffic (i.e. ping -c 100 -f 8100 ), the receiver will sometimes appear to upload its entire FIFO memory contents instead of just uploading the desired received frame. The uploaded data will span several receive buffers, in spite of the fact that the chip has been told to only use one descriptor per frame, and appears to consist of previously transmitted frames with the correct received frame appended to the end. Unfortunately, there is no way to determine exactly how much data is uploaded when this happens; the chip doesn't tell you anything except the size of the desired received frame, and the amount of bogus data varies. Sometimes, the desired frame is also split across multiple buffers. The workaround is ugly and nasty. The driver assembles all of the data from the bogus frames into a single buffer. The receive buffers are always zeroed out, and we program the chip to always include the receive CRC at the end of each frame. We therefore know that we can start from the end of the buffer and scan back until we encounter a non-zero data byte, and say conclusively that this is the end of the desired frame. We can then subtract the frame length from this address to determine the real start of the frame, and copy it into an mbuf and pass it on. This is kludgy and time consuming, but it's better than dropping frames. It's not too bad since the problem only happens at 10Mbps. The workaround is only enabled for chips with PCI revision == 33. The LinkSys LNE100TX and Matrox FastNIC 10/100 cards use a revision 32 chip and work fine in promiscuous mode. Netgear support has confirmed that they "have some previous knowledge of problems in promiscuous mode" but didn't have a workaround. The people at Lite-On who would be able to suggest a possible fix are on vacation. So, I decided to implement a workaround of my own until I hear from them. I suppose this problem made it through Netgear's QA department since Windows doesn't normally use promiscuous mode, and if Windows doesn't need the feature than it can't possibly be important, right? Grrr. Revision Changes Path 1.5 +170 -12 src/sys/pci/if_pn.c 1.3 +9 -1 src/sys/pci/if_pnreg.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 09:20:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22091 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:20:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22082; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:20:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA23523; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:20:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:20:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311720.JAA23523@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/net/ppxp - Imported sources Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/31 09:20:18 PST ports/net/ppxp - Imported sources Update of /home/ncvs/ports/net/ppxp In directory freefall.freebsd.org:/c/users/sada/work/ppxp Log Message: This is a new user process PPP software pakgae. It is easy to setup and has nice GUI to control connection. This PPP software make a connection on demand and can traslate IP address and port numbers as called as NAT. This spackage have many console programs, ppxp is standard terminal oriented console, xppxp is X client console, tkppxp is Tcl/Tk based console, and much more. Submitted by: Norio Suzuki , KUNISHIMA Takeo Status: Vendor Tag: KUNISHI Release Tags: ppxp_0_98112523 N ports/net/ppxp/Makefile I ports/net/ppxp/CVS N ports/net/ppxp/patches/patch-aa N ports/net/ppxp/patches/patch-ab N ports/net/ppxp/patches/patch-ac N ports/net/ppxp/pkg/COMMENT N ports/net/ppxp/pkg/DESCR N ports/net/ppxp/pkg/PLIST N ports/net/ppxp/files/md5 N ports/net/ppxp/files/pkgIndex.tcl No conflicts created by this import To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 09:21:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22149 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:21:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22128; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:21:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id CAA04620; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 02:20:17 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <368BB247.886FB8DA@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 02:20:07 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Steven P. Donegan" CC: Mark Murray , The Hermit Hacker , "Jonathan M. Bresler" , committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk "Steven P. Donegan" wrote: > > I have a definite rumble about removing sendmail - making postfix a port > is great, making it the default and/or removing sendmail is IMHO a really > non-smart idea until postfix proves itself. > > What's the rush? If it's such a great thing the masses will start asking > for it, let it mature in the ports area until enough people ask for it to > be the default. Don't remove something that everyone uses and don't bloat > the distribution without a good reason. Sigh. I ought to have kept my mouth shut about this. Anyway, it is *not* being proposed to make Postfix default or removing sendmail. Though, from what I have heard so far, that is the *LONG TERM* plan. The idea is putting Postfix on the contrib as a way to make it further easier to choose Postfix during installation, and thus "push" Postfix as an alternative. Since Postfix is compatible to some extent with Sendmail, that is not entirely evil, IMHO. :-) Now, someone mentioned to me in prvt mail about on-coming sendmail license changes. If that's true, then it *is* imperative for FreeBSD to find an alternative. And try it. BEFORE sendmail gets stale. Mmmm.... I wonder if I'm not throwing more wood in the fire... Oh, well, better get the abestos out of the closet. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com "Heart like a Gabriel, pure and white as ivory, soul like a lucifer, black and cold as a piece of lead." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 09:21:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22224 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:21:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22219; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:21:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA23752; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:21:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:21:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311721.JAA23752@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/net Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/31 09:21:44 PST Modified files: net Makefile Log: Activate ppxp Submitted by: Norio Suzuki , KUNISHIMA Takeo Revision Changes Path 1.215 +2 -1 ports/net/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 09:35:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23460 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:35:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23455; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:35:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) From: SADA Kenji Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA24384; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:35:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:35:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311735.JAA24384@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: doc/handbook submitters.sgml Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk sada 1998/12/31 09:35:47 PST Modified files: handbook submitters.sgml Log: Add Norio Suzuki & KUNISHIMA Takeo. Revision Changes Path 1.269 +5 -1 doc/handbook/submitters.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 09:37:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23687 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:37:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA23682 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:37:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zvm24-0000Om-00; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:37:12 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA77172; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:35:13 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199812311735.KAA77172@harmony.village.org> To: Chris Timmons Subject: Re: cvs commit: src UPDATING Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:13:34 PST." References: Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:35:13 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message Chris Timmons writes: : Who's jdk? Jordan of Denmark? Jordan developer kit?? Damn. the cat is out of the bag. Jordan Hubbard is really an AI program, and the jdk is something that allows others in the know to tweak the Jordan Hubbard AI Program remotely. :-) :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 09:46:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24738 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:46:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24733 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:46:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA28224; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:40:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA09998; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:40:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:40:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199812311740.KAA09998@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Nate Williams , Mike Smith , Poul-Henning Kamp , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. In-Reply-To: <199812311553.KAA03627@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <199812302359.QAA06821@mt.sri.com> <199812310054.QAA00478@dingo.cdrom.com> <199812310624.XAA07777@mt.sri.com> <199812311553.KAA03627@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > What about for things such as interrupt counts, collisions, and such. > > These aren't debugging issues, but do exist on a per-card basis. > > There are already mechanisms for handing this information. In the > first case, it's devstat(3); in the second case, it ifmib(4). And these work with KLD's now? Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 09:50:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25274 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:50:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25269 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:50:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id SAA21556; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:50:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA06044; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:33:16 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from j) Message-ID: <19981231183314.44787@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:33:14 +0100 From: J Wunsch To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can i add /usr/bin/pcmio ? Reply-To: Joerg Wunsch References: <199812311216.XAA29737@godzilla.zeta.org.au> <199812311018.LAA20069@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <199812311018.LAA20069@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>; from Luigi Rizzo on Thu, Dec 31, 1998 at 11:18:43AM +0100 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk As Luigi Rizzo wrote: > BTW: there are two spppcontrol... the one in /usr/sbin is apparently > a dynamically-linked version of the one in /sbin An oversight of Poul-Henning when importing isdn4bsd. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 10:07:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27756 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:07:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.175.2.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA27750; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:07:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:07:32 -0800 (PST) From: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu Message-Id: <199812311807.KAA27750@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from ren.eecis.udel.edu by mail.eecis.udel.edu id aa06349; 31 Dec 1998 12:55 EST To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Cc: dcs@newsguy.com, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. Organization: Mos Eisley Candy Store Reply-To: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In Reply to Your Message of Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06: 57:45 PST Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:55:20 -0500 From: Jerry Alexandratos Message-ID: <199812311255.aa06349@mail.eecis.udel.edu> "Jonathan M. Bresler" says: : > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:40:24 +0900 : > From: "Daniel C. Sobral" : > : > As horrible as sendmail is, I doubt we could remove it from the : > source without a major riot. So, what it is GAINED by having Postfix : > in the contrib instead of the ports? : : for many of our users sendmail.cf is a major hurdle. i know i have : made money customizing sendmail.cf for people. postfix does the : common sendmail.cf reconfiguration issues and does them in a way : that people can roll their own and wont have to pay people like me. : (hey....wait a minute....why am i doing this. ;) : : canonicalization, virtual hosts, spam control, etc. the .mc files : go a long way to making this easier, but people still flounder. I'm not disagreeing with any of the "benefits" of postfix. However, everything you just mentioned about postfix (sendmail drop-in compatible, human-readable configuration files, scales well to large installations, etc...) is being done and has been done by exim over the past few years. Hey, except for the "sendmail drop-in" even qmail has met all of the other qualifications. So why did we never think of putting these mailers in the tree? However, here's my real bone of contention. The FreeBSD project has always been precise and deliberate with what is placed in the source tree, with the emphasis being stability. Look, we're still using what everyone and their grandmother calls "a way old compiler" (and yes, we've almost always been a major version behind). It took forever to get perl5 into the tree. We still haven't upgraded to the latest version of CVS. Yada, yada, yada... And now... Now we want to put a *beta* mailer for which new security holes and bugs are being found every day in the source tree instead of the ports tree. I swear, it's almost like we've become victims of IBM's marketing machine. Personally, I think we should focus our efforts on putting either gcc28 or egcs in the tree. 8) --Jerry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 10:16:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29232 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:16:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29187; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:16:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA26465; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:59:31 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:59:31 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. Message-ID: <19981230205931.D6797@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199812301157.DAA06160@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199812301157.DAA06160@hub.freebsd.org>; from Jonathan M. Bresler on Wed, Dec 30, 1998 at 03:57:08AM -0800 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, Dec 30, 1998 at 03:57:08AM -0800, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > Starting later today, I will import Postfix (aka VMailer > aka SecureMailer from IBM) into the tree under /usr/src/contrib. > Postfix was written by Wietse Venema (tcp_wrappers, satan, etc). Probably a stupid question, but why not pull Sendmail *out* of the tree, and then create a Sendmail and a PostFix port instead? N -- C.R.F. Consulting -- we're run to make me richer. . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 10:32:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01041 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:32:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01002; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:32:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:32:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812311832.KAA01002@hub.freebsd.org> From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu CC: dcs@newsguy.com, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199812311807.KAA27750@hub.freebsd.org> (alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu) Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. References: <199812311807.KAA27750@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:07:32 -0800 (PST) > From: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu > > However, here's my real bone of contention. The FreeBSD project has at last! > always been precise and deliberate with what is placed in the source > tree, with the emphasis being stability. Look, we're still using what > everyone and their grandmother calls "a way old compiler" (and yes, > we've almost always been a major version behind). It took forever to > get perl5 into the tree. We still haven't upgraded to the latest > version of CVS. Yada, yada, yada... > > And now... Now we want to put a *beta* mailer for which new security > holes and bugs are being found every day in the source tree instead of > the ports tree. 1. Wietse Venema's beta is better then many finished products. We have been using it to deliver the FreeBSD mailing lists for months. 2. "new security holes and bugs are being found every day" is false. the only "security holes and bugs" found recently are along the lines of "world writeable directories are bad". 3. IBM's marketing machine is picking up on a program what Wietse started quite a while ago. His current employer wants to capitalize on it. so be it. 4. if you believe that there is a problem with postfix, please tell me what it is. the problem must be one with postfix, not how its labelled or who is hyping it. jmb > I swear, it's almost like we've become victims of IBM's marketing > machine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 10:56:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03972 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:56:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.adsu.bellsouth.com (ns1.adsu.bellsouth.com [205.152.173.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03941; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:56:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ck@ns1.adsu.bellsouth.com) Received: (from ck@localhost) by ns1.adsu.bellsouth.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id NAA12412; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:55:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981231135547.W4306@ns1.adsu.bellsouth.com> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:55:47 -0500 From: Christian Kuhtz To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu Cc: dcs@newsguy.com, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. References: <199812311807.KAA27750@hub.freebsd.org> <199812311832.KAA01002@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199812311832.KAA01002@hub.freebsd.org>; from Jonathan M. Bresler on Thu, Dec 31, 1998 at 10:32:29AM -0800 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, Dec 31, 1998 at 10:32:29AM -0800, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: [..] > 1. Wietse Venema's beta is better then many finished products. > We have been using it to deliver the FreeBSD mailing lists for > months. [..] Does it really make our product better if we deploy beta code in it? There is a reason why Wietse is so highly regarded, and that is because of the fact that he is so careful. So, if we trust his reputation, shouldn't we at least have the grace to follow his footsteps? If it's good stuff, it'll be around in a few months, and people who are clamoring to get Sendmail relief will most certainly be able to survive a few months longer. They have thus far. It is great that hub.freebsd.org has been running on it very succesfully. Wietse doesn't appear to care about it to move it to released stage? > 4. if you believe that there is a problem with postfix, please tell > me what it is. the problem must be one with postfix, not how its > labelled or who is hyping it. [..] Labels do make a difference. Many corporations have written Q&A rules according to which you cannot/must not deploy any product and run production on it that is labeled as beta. It is completely irrelevant if it passes the internal Q&A if it is labeled as beta. We're one of them. And you can very well get fired for doing it anyway. I like vmailer^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpostfix a lot and use it for lab purposes. But neither I nor anyone else anywhere in this huge organization can deploy it currently for that very reason. We should be conservative in released components, particularly with regards to commercial use. I am not against Postfix, I believe in Postfix. Yes, I am very unhappy with Sendmail's state at the present time. Sendmail is not part of the equasion, it is how we do releases and how carefully we maintain the code base. Introducing something that's labeled as beta into a release is not a part of careful code base maintenance, IMHO. If memory serves, Postfix would indeed be the only thing in /usr/src/contrib which is beta. We are setting what might be a perhaps dangerous precedent. Even though I like the idea of having Postfix around. Cheers, Chris -- "Economics is extremely useful as a form of employment for economists." -- John Kenneth Galbraith [Disclaimer: I speak for myself and my views are my own and not in any way to be construed as the views of BellSouth Corporation. ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 11:23:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07939 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:23:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp18389.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07916; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:23:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA04697; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:22:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tim) Message-ID: <19981231142235.A4687@mad> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:22:35 -0500 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu, "Jonathan M. Bresler" Cc: dcs@newsguy.com, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. References: <199812311807.KAA27750@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199812311807.KAA27750@hub.freebsd.org>; from alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu on Thu, Dec 31, 1998 at 10:07:32AM -0800 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, Dec 31, 1998 at 10:07:32AM -0800, alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu wrote: > > we've almost always been a major version behind). It took forever to > get perl5 into the tree. We still haven't upgraded to the latest > version of CVS. Yada, yada, yada... And there are some really old PRs about tar, etc. being out-of-date. You sound like a potential volunteer! :-) -- This .sig is not innovative, witty, or profund. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 11:34:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09418 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:34:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA09400; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:34:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zvnqz-0000TS-00; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:33:53 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA00653; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:31:48 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199812311931.MAA00653@harmony.village.org> To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:32:29 PST." <199812311832.KAA01002@hub.freebsd.org> References: <199812311832.KAA01002@hub.freebsd.org> <199812311807.KAA27750@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:31:48 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <199812311832.KAA01002@hub.freebsd.org> "Jonathan M. Bresler" writes: : 2. "new security holes and bugs are being found every day" is : false. the only "security holes and bugs" found recently are : along the lines of "world writeable directories are bad". If they are being found everyday, they aren't making it to bugtraq. A whole class of problems exist with the world writable directories, but it appears that a small, setgid program is going to close that void. I've not seen any other security related problems for postfix. And I've been looking closely... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 11:38:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09798 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:38:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles121.castles.com [208.214.165.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09791 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:38:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01128; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:30:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812311930.LAA01128@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Nate Williams cc: Mike Smith , Poul-Henning Kamp , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:24:53 MST." <199812310624.XAA07777@mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:30:32 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > > It would be trivial to implement in a sysctl, and we can even do it > > > > as > > > > sysctl kern.nlist.val.avenrun > > > > sysctl kern.nlist.type.avenrun > > > > if you want to... > > > > > > What about 'loadable' drivers that may have multiple symbols for > > > multiple interfaces, ala network cards? > > > > > > kern.nlist.ed0.softc? > > > > Eugh. I think we're at cross purposes here. Exporting the kernel > > symbol table for debugging purposes is one thing, exporting entities > > out of the kernel for eg. statistical operations is another entirely. > > What about for things such as interrupt counts, collisions, and such. > These aren't debugging issues, but do exist on a per-card basis. They're already available via a sysctl, currently using a privately-managed growable tree. There's no reason not to continue to do it this way. As I said, information of a parametric or statistical nature matches sysctl well. Debugging matches symbol table access well. The two are complementary, not exclusive. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 11:42:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10390 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:42:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles121.castles.com [208.214.165.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10385 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:42:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01223; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:39:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812311939.LAA01223@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can i add /usr/bin/pcmio ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:57:38 +0100." <199812310957.KAA19944@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:39:37 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Hi, > > i was wondering if it is the case to add a small, very basic audio > I/O command called pcmio which lets you access the audio device > changing format, sample rate, channels etc. > > Since it is so small, it is probably not worthwhile making a port > of it. (Plus it is my idea that whenever possible, all devices > should have in the base system a simple control utility for testing > etc.) Convention would call it pcmcontrol, and put it in /usr/sbin. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 12:09:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12988 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:09:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles121.castles.com [208.214.165.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12962; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:09:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01368; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:06:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812312006.MAA01368@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: mark@grondar.za, dcs@newsguy.com, alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.eud, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:15:54 PST." <199812311615.IAA15286@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:06:18 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:10:22 +0200 > > From: Mark Murray > > > > We gain the ability to emphasise Postfix and de-emphasise Sendmail. > > After an appropriate period, we gain the ability to nuke Sendmail > > as Postfix has been solidly tested/used/ported/integrated for > > "long enough". No combustion over definitions of "long enough", > > please :-). > > WHOA!!!!! > > what if no one else likes postfix. > > postfix is coming into the tree as /usr/src/contrib. > sendmail is the default mail transfer agent. > individual users can switch either machines to use postfix as > the mta. > there is no intention of removing sendmail from the tree. This clearly demonstrates that there is no mandate, nor no technical justification for bringing postfix in. Please make a port of it and stay with convention. Now is not a good time for a -core member to be demonstrating personal bias over established convention with regards to the FreeBSD source tree. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 12:15:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13669 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:15:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13649; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:15:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA96478; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 21:11:28 +0100 (CET) To: "Steven P. Donegan" cc: The Hermit Hacker , "Daniel C. Sobral" , Mark Murray , "Jonathan M. Bresler" , alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.eud, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:10:26 PST." Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 21:11:27 +0100 Message-ID: <96476.915135087@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message , "Steven P. Donegan" writes: >On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > >> >> Here here...I trust and like sendmail, and have no intentions of >> switching from it... >> > >Not to flame at all - but what wonderful things does postfix bring that >would induce anyone to move away from sendmail? Simplicity. Now, stop this discussion please, you still have sendmail if that makes you happy, others have postfix if that makes them happy. You're wasting email bandwidth discussing taste, that is pointless. Happy new year! -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 12:29:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15231 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:29:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15226; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:29:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA00189; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:28:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:28:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812312028.MAA00189@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/info pkg_info.1 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/31 12:28:55 PST Modified files: usr.sbin/pkg_install/info pkg_info.1 Log: change wording slightly to match other pkg_*.1 Revision Changes Path 1.19 +2 -2 src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/info/pkg_info.1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 12:29:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15277 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:29:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15271; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:29:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA00277; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:29:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:29:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812312029.MAA00277@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/delete pkg_delete.1 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/31 12:29:30 PST Modified files: usr.sbin/pkg_install/delete pkg_delete.1 Log: document PKG_DBDIR Add ENVIRONMENT and FILES sections. Revision Changes Path 1.11 +13 -0 src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/delete/pkg_delete.1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 12:37:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16248 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:37:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat1262.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.186.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16228; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:37:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA16204; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:36:45 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:36:44 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Mark Murray cc: "Steven P. Donegan" , "Daniel C. Sobral" , "Jonathan M. Bresler" , committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: <199812311622.SAA60127@greenpeace.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Mark Murray wrote: > "Steven P. Donegan" wrote: > > Not to flame at all - but what wonderful things does postfix bring that > > would induce anyone to move away from sendmail? Move from something that > > works in the millions of systems, is understood by vast numbers of sys > > admins, etc? If postfix can do something sendmail can't what is it? And > > an answer that it's easier to configure isn't really valid for us lifer > > sendmail folks :-) > > 1) Vastly easier to configure :-). (Very valid for newbies). > 2) A heck of a lot more efficient. Sendmail is designed to work; > this is designed to work _fast_. > 3) More secure. The author is security-paranoid. This is good. > 4) So far (apart from myself) I have seen no rumblings at all > about removing Sendmail. I've seen a couple, myself included...today was the first I clued into the fact that ppl were suggesting *replacing* sendmail with postfix... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 12:41:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16759 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:41:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from burka.rdy.com (burka.rdy.com [205.149.163.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16741; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:41:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@burka.rdy.com) Received: (from dima@localhost) by burka.rdy.com (8.9.1/RDY&DVV) id MAA78569; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:40:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812312040.MAA78569@burka.rdy.com> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: <199812311832.KAA01002@hub.freebsd.org> from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at "Dec 31, 1998 10:32:29 am" To: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:40:52 -0800 (PST) Cc: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu, dcs@newsguy.com, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Class: Fast Organization: HackerDome Reply-To: dima@best.net From: dima@best.net (Dima Ruban) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Jonathan M. Bresler writes: > > 4. if you believe that there is a problem with postfix, please tell > me what it is. the problem must be one with postfix, not how its > labelled or who is hyping it. The only potential problem is "do we really need it to be part of the standard system?" So far I don't see any real advantages in it. And unless we're about to switch to postfix and get rid of sendmail - I'm against this commit. > > jmb > > > I swear, it's almost like we've become victims of IBM's marketing > > machine. > -- dima To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 13:00:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19214 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:00:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hawaii.conterra.com (hawaii.conterra.com [209.12.164.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19208; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:00:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmaddox@scsn.net) Received: from rhiannon.conterra.com (ppp107.conterra.com [209.12.169.107]) by hawaii.conterra.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA22553; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 15:59:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dmaddox@localhost) by rhiannon.conterra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA01104; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 15:59:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dmaddox) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 15:59:39 -0500 From: "Donald J . Maddox" To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: "Steven P. Donegan" , The Hermit Hacker , "Daniel C. Sobral" , Mark Murray , "Jonathan M. Bresler" , alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.eud, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. Message-ID: <19981231155939.A1068@rhiannon.conterra.com> Reply-To: dmaddox@conterra.com References: <96476.915135087@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <96476.915135087@critter.freebsd.dk>; from Poul-Henning Kamp on Thu, Dec 31, 1998 at 09:11:27PM +0100 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk That's an interesting point, coming as it does from someone who just _took away_ choice from many of us by ripping functionality out of the tree without providing a replacement(e.g. VoxWare)... On Thu, Dec 31, 1998 at 09:11:27PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Now, stop this discussion please, you still have sendmail if that makes > you happy, others have postfix if that makes them happy. > > You're wasting email bandwidth discussing taste, that is pointless. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 13:06:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19796 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:06:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19777; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:06:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA38811; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:08:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:08:26 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Mike Smith cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: <199812312006.MAA01368@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:10:22 +0200 > > > From: Mark Murray > > > > > > We gain the ability to emphasise Postfix and de-emphasise Sendmail. > > > After an appropriate period, we gain the ability to nuke Sendmail > > > as Postfix has been solidly tested/used/ported/integrated for > > > "long enough". No combustion over definitions of "long enough", > > > please :-). > > > > WHOA!!!!! > > > > what if no one else likes postfix. > > > > postfix is coming into the tree as /usr/src/contrib. > > sendmail is the default mail transfer agent. > > individual users can switch either machines to use postfix as > > the mta. > > there is no intention of removing sendmail from the tree. > > This clearly demonstrates that there is no mandate, nor no technical > justification for bringing postfix in. Please make a port of it and > stay with convention. I think Sun and many other distributions are chiming in that they WILL switch to postfix pretty soon, perhaps doing as jmb says and having both systems in place would be a good idea for a while, i'm sure if postfix gets a lot of bad press people will want it removed, but it's nice to have the latest and greatest, instead of a year later everyone whining about NOT having postfix in the base system. -Alfred oh, btw, how do i figure the size passed into an ioctl from the handler? :) > > Now is not a good time for a -core member to be demonstrating personal > bias over established convention with regards to the FreeBSD source tree. > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 13:21:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21182 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:21:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21161; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:21:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04149; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:19:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:19:35 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu, dcs@newsguy.com, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: <199812311832.KAA01002@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:07:32 -0800 (PST) > > From: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu > > > > However, here's my real bone of contention. The FreeBSD project has > > at last! Don't cheer too much, I think he's just going to change his story. He basically wants to dismember lots of the FreeBSD tree, and this is just a convenient excuse. One thing does kinda get me, tho. IBM, like Sun, has made several moves recently that have been friendly to open software. I'm not saying they're giving the store away, but things have changed at IBM since the 80's, and I don't think he's noticed it. > > I swear, it's almost like we've become victims of IBM's marketing > > machine. Jikes is just one of a hoard of software that IBM has been making public. All companies that do that should be clearly cheered for it, not taken to task because they're not totally perfect, nor because of rather poor, decade-old records. Times are changing, and IBM is not the boogie-man they used to be. You honestly ought to web-surf the IBM site, all the free and technically extremely interesting stuff there will take a good long while to read through. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 14:15:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25966 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:15:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25954; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:15:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA03981; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:15:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:15:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812312215.OAA03981@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/security/fwtk Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/31 14:15:38 PST Modified files: security/fwtk Makefile Log: Do not error out if the distfiles do not exist. (they are only manually fetchable). Revision Changes Path 1.12 +8 -12 ports/security/fwtk/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 14:23:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27037 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:23:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27028; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:23:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) From: "David E. O'Brien" Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA04258; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:23:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:23:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812312223.OAA04258@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/japanese/Wnn6 Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk obrien 1998/12/31 14:23:13 PST Modified files: japanese/Wnn6 Makefile Log: move contents of `do-fetch:' to `pre-extract:'. Ok'ed by: Maintainer's lack of responce to my email asking to do this. Revision Changes Path 1.21 +6 -5 ports/japanese/Wnn6/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 14:28:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27505 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:28:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa15-47.ix.netcom.com [207.93.148.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27495; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:28:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) id OAA28553; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:28:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:28:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812312228.OAA28553@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: scrappy@hub.org CC: mark@grondar.za, donegan@quick.net, dcs@newsguy.com, jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from The Hermit Hacker on Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:36:44 -0400 (AST)) Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk KEEP SENDMAIL! If people want postfix, myspecialemail, etc., put them in ports. Sendmail is a MUST. Sendmail should be in the mainline of the source tree. If you don't know why, I am sorry! tomdean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 15:40:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02945 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 15:40:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from top.worldcontrol.com (snblitz.sc.scruznet.com [165.227.132.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA02924 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 15:40:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@worldcontrol.com) From: brian@worldcontrol.com Received: (qmail 2639 invoked by uid 100); 31 Dec 1998 23:50:17 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 15:50:16 -0800 To: Thomas Dean Cc: scrappy@hub.org, mark@grondar.za, donegan@quick.net, dcs@newsguy.com, jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. Message-ID: <19981231155016.A2630@top.worldcontrol.com> References: <199812312228.OAA28553@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199812312228.OAA28553@ix.netcom.com>; from Thomas Dean on Thu, Dec 31, 1998 at 02:28:14PM -0800 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, Dec 31, 1998 at 02:28:14PM -0800, Thomas Dean wrote: > KEEP SENDMAIL! > > If people want postfix, myspecialemail, etc., put them in ports. > > Sendmail is a MUST. Sendmail should be in the mainline of the source > tree. If you don't know why, I am sorry! I was thankful the day NO_SENDMAIL= true became an option in /etc/make.conf -- Brian Litzinger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 16:17:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07806 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:17:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07788; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:17:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA05307; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:16:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:16:34 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Mark Murray cc: "Steven P. Donegan" , The Hermit Hacker , "Daniel C. Sobral" , "Jonathan M. Bresler" , committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: <199812311622.SAA60127@greenpeace.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Mark Murray wrote: > "Steven P. Donegan" wrote: > > Not to flame at all - but what wonderful things does postfix bring that > > would induce anyone to move away from sendmail? Move from something that > > works in the millions of systems, is understood by vast numbers of sys > > admins, etc? If postfix can do something sendmail can't what is it? And > > an answer that it's easier to configure isn't really valid for us lifer > > sendmail folks :-) > > 1) Vastly easier to configure :-). (Very valid for newbies). > 2) A heck of a lot more efficient. Sendmail is designed to work; > this is designed to work _fast_. > 3) More secure. The author is security-paranoid. This is good. > 4) So far (apart from myself) I have seen no rumblings at all > about removing Sendmail. After seeing all these points, I'm yet to see why not to use exim instead. It's a wonderful MTA! > > M > -- > Mark Murray > Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 16:34:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09134 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:34:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09113; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:34:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA06009; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:33:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:33:48 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , dcs@newsguy.com, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: <199812311807.KAA27750@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu wrote: > In Reply to Your Message of Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06: 57:45 PST > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:55:20 -0500 > From: Jerry Alexandratos > Message-ID: <199812311255.aa06349@mail.eecis.udel.edu> > > "Jonathan M. Bresler" says: > : > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:40:24 +0900 > : > From: "Daniel C. Sobral" > : > > : > As horrible as sendmail is, I doubt we could remove it from the > : > source without a major riot. So, what it is GAINED by having Postfix > : > in the contrib instead of the ports? > : > : for many of our users sendmail.cf is a major hurdle. i know i have > : made money customizing sendmail.cf for people. postfix does the > : common sendmail.cf reconfiguration issues and does them in a way > : that people can roll their own and wont have to pay people like me. > : (hey....wait a minute....why am i doing this. ;) > : > : canonicalization, virtual hosts, spam control, etc. the .mc files > : go a long way to making this easier, but people still flounder. > > I'm not disagreeing with any of the "benefits" of postfix. However, > everything you just mentioned about postfix (sendmail drop-in > compatible, human-readable configuration files, scales well to large > installations, etc...) is being done and has been done by exim over the > past few years. Hey, except for the "sendmail drop-in" even qmail has > met all of the other qualifications. > > So why did we never think of putting these mailers in the tree? > > However, here's my real bone of contention. The FreeBSD project has > always been precise and deliberate with what is placed in the source > tree, with the emphasis being stability. Look, we're still using what > everyone and their grandmother calls "a way old compiler" (and yes, > we've almost always been a major version behind). It took forever to > get perl5 into the tree. We still haven't upgraded to the latest > version of CVS. Yada, yada, yada... > > And now... Now we want to put a *beta* mailer for which new security > holes and bugs are being found every day in the source tree instead of > the ports tree. > > I swear, it's almost like we've become victims of IBM's marketing > machine. > > Personally, I think we should focus our efforts on putting either gcc28 > or egcs in the tree. 8) You neglect to understand how "we" works. For certain things, implementing something as a team works: when you have a large project and a clear direction stated. Things will intercorrelate correctly. But on a small project, such as a port (or merge) usually is, a single person with many testers who bash on is best. Testing things is what takes many people, developing a finely-grained project is something for a single person. > > --Jerry > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 16:56:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11068 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:56:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11063 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:56:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00604; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:48:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901010048.QAA00604@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Nate Williams cc: Garrett Wollman , Mike Smith , Poul-Henning Kamp , committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kvm_nlist emulation of n_type from kld symbol table at runtime. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:40:50 MST." <199812311740.KAA09998@mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:48:15 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > What about for things such as interrupt counts, collisions, and such. > > > These aren't debugging issues, but do exist on a per-card basis. > > > > There are already mechanisms for handing this information. In the > > first case, it's devstat(3); in the second case, it ifmib(4). > > And these work with KLD's now? They should; neither are tied to linker sets. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 17:09:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12883 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:09:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.175.2.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA12860; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:09:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:09:13 -0800 (PST) From: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu Message-Id: <199901010109.RAA12860@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from ren.eecis.udel.edu by mail.eecis.udel.edu id aa00435; 31 Dec 1998 19:50 EST To: Brian Feldman Cc: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu, "Jonathan M. Bresler" , dcs@newsguy.com, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. Organization: Mos Eisley Candy Store Reply-To: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In Reply to Your Message of Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19: 33:48 EST Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:50:08 -0500 From: Jerry Alexandratos Message-ID: <199812311950.aa00435@mail.eecis.udel.edu> Brian Feldman says: : On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu wrote: : > : > Personally, I think we should focus our efforts on putting either gcc28 : > or egcs in the tree. 8) : : You neglect to understand how "we" works. For certain things, implementing : something as a team works: when you have a large project and a clear : direction stated. Things will intercorrelate correctly. But on a small projec t, : such as a port (or merge) usually is, a single person with many testers who : bash on is best. Testing things is what takes many : people, developing a finely-grained project is something for a single person. Actually, please notice the smiley. I was trying (miserably) to make a funny about in reference to the slw of e-mails that flew around for what to do about a toolchain and compiler (specifically in reference to the sparc64-elf port). As Dennis Miller once said, "stop me before I sub-reference again." However, that discussion brought out lots of good points. Things like not using egcs because it's still relatively beta software and a "moving target." So once again, I ask my original question (which hasn't been answered yet), why not make postfix a port? All of the benefits that it provides vs sendmail have been done previously in other mailers and those mailers are in the ports tree. Likewise, postfix falls under every reason (from a development/code stage POV) that I can recall over the past 4 years for not putting something into the main source tree but rather making it a port. Anyway, like anything and everything else, this is not worth taking personally and getting into a tizzy. I never meant to start a "features war" and apologize since this is what my question turned into. Everyone, have a Happy New Year and I'll see you all in 1999! --Jerry 8) Jerry Alexandratos % - % "Nothing inhabits my (8 8) alexandr@louie.udel.edu % - % thoughts, and oblivion (8 8) darkstar@strauss.udel.edu % - % drives my desires." (8 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 18:23:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20719 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:23:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat1262.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.186.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20698; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:23:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA17495; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:23:05 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:23:04 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: brian@worldcontrol.com cc: Thomas Dean , mark@grondar.za, donegan@quick.net, dcs@newsguy.com, jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: <19981231155016.A2630@top.worldcontrol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 brian@worldcontrol.com wrote: > On Thu, Dec 31, 1998 at 02:28:14PM -0800, Thomas Dean wrote: > > KEEP SENDMAIL! > > > > If people want postfix, myspecialemail, etc., put them in ports. > > > > Sendmail is a MUST. Sendmail should be in the mainline of the source > > tree. If you don't know why, I am sorry! > > I was thankful the day > > NO_SENDMAIL= true > > became an option in /etc/make.conf then make neither standard and both ports...I personally feel the opposite, and rue the day that sendmail is removed... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 18:32:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21576 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:32:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21571; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:32:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id SAA11710; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:32:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:32:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901010232.SAA11710@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel Makefile ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/files md5 ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/patches patch-aa patch-ab patch-ac patch-ad ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/pkg PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/31 18:32:06 PST Modified files: x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel Makefile x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/files md5 x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/patches patch-aa patch-ab patch-ac patch-ad x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/pkg PLIST Log: Upgrade to 1.1.11. Revision Changes Path 1.39 +4 -4 ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/Makefile 1.24 +1 -1 ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/files/md5 1.19 +16 -16 ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/patches/patch-aa 1.6 +4 -4 ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/patches/patch-ab 1.4 +27 -20 ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/patches/patch-ac 1.2 +5 -16 ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/patches/patch-ad 1.33 +10 -2 ports/x11-toolkits/gtk11-devel/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 18:42:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22308 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:42:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22303; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:42:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) From: Tim Vanderhoek Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id SAA12252; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:42:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:42:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901010242.SAA12252@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: www/en/cgi cvsweb.cgi Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hoek 1998/12/31 18:42:37 PST Modified files: en/cgi cvsweb.cgi Log: Correct more aggressive PR# matching (aka. an "I can write better regexp's than that....really" commit). Revision Changes Path 1.28 +2 -4 www/en/cgi/cvsweb.cgi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 18:47:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22598 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:47:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22593; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:47:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id SAA12580; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:47:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:47:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901010247.SAA12580@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11/gnomelibs Makefile ports/x11/gnomelibs/files md5 ports/x11/gnomelibs/patches patch-aa patch-ab patch-ac patch-ad patch-ae patch-af patch-ag ports/x11/gnomelibs/pkg PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/31 18:47:12 PST Modified files: x11/gnomelibs Makefile x11/gnomelibs/files md5 x11/gnomelibs/patches patch-aa patch-ab patch-ac patch-ad patch-ae patch-af patch-ag x11/gnomelibs/pkg PLIST Log: Upgrade to 0.99.1. Revision Changes Path 1.20 +20 -15 ports/x11/gnomelibs/Makefile 1.4 +1 -1 ports/x11/gnomelibs/files/md5 1.5 +50 -13 ports/x11/gnomelibs/patches/patch-aa 1.5 +196 -85 ports/x11/gnomelibs/patches/patch-ab 1.4 +16 -13 ports/x11/gnomelibs/patches/patch-ac 1.3 +3 -3 ports/x11/gnomelibs/patches/patch-ad 1.3 +11 -11 ports/x11/gnomelibs/patches/patch-ae 1.2 +3 -3 ports/x11/gnomelibs/patches/patch-af 1.2 +3 -3 ports/x11/gnomelibs/patches/patch-ag 1.4 +99 -31 ports/x11/gnomelibs/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 19:14:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23980 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:14:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23975; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:14:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@FreeBSD.org) From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA13169; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:14:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:14:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901010314.TAA13169@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/games/mangband - Imported sources Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ache 1998/12/31 19:14:09 PST ports/games/mangband - Imported sources Update of /home/ncvs/ports/games/mangband In directory freefall.freebsd.org:/c/users/ache/x Log Message: multi-player Angband Status: Vendor Tag: ache Release Tags: ache_1_0 N ports/games/mangband/Makefile N ports/games/mangband/files/md5 N ports/games/mangband/patches/patch-aa N ports/games/mangband/patches/patch-ab N ports/games/mangband/patches/patch-ac N ports/games/mangband/patches/patch-ad N ports/games/mangband/pkg/COMMENT N ports/games/mangband/pkg/DESCR N ports/games/mangband/pkg/PLIST No conflicts created by this import To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 19:15:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24111 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:15:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24106; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:15:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@FreeBSD.org) From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA13203; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:15:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:15:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901010315.TAA13203@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ache 1998/12/31 19:15:18 PST Modified files: . modules Log: add mangband Revision Changes Path 1.2656 +2 -1 CVSROOT/modules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 19:17:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24159 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:17:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24153; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:17:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@FreeBSD.org) From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA13264; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:16:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:16:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901010316.TAA13264@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/games Makefile Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ache 1998/12/31 19:16:55 PST Modified files: games Makefile Log: add mangband Revision Changes Path 1.180 +2 -1 ports/games/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 19:49:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26057 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:49:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26051 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:49:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/Netplex) with ESMTP id LAA94480; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:49:09 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199901010349.LAA94480@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans), committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can i add /usr/bin/pcmio ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:18:43 +0100." <199812311018.LAA20069@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 11:49:06 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > >of it. (Plus it is my idea that whenever possible, all devices > > >should have in the base system a simple control utility for testing > > >etc.) > > > > These utilities are usually named /usr/sbin/foocontrol or /sbin/foocontrol. > > BTW: there are two spppcontrol... the one in /usr/sbin is apparently > a dynamically-linked version of the one in /sbin > > luigi Some general guidelines: / vs /usr : If the control program is (or might be) needed in order to get /usr mounted (including over nfs etc), then it should be in / bin vs sbin : There are a number of interpretations, but generally things that are superuser only or only generally useable by the sysadmin should go in sbin instead of bin. So, things that do ioctl's on devices that require root privs go in sbin, otherwise they just clutter up people's $PATH's. Since pcmio is hardly going to be needed to boot the system and get /usr online, then it's /usr. If any user can use it, then it goes in /usr/bin. If it's a superuser only thing, then /usr/sbin. I guess this depends a bit on what the default permissions are on the device... If it is likely to be chmod'ed to allow global access to the audio device, then I'd be tempted to go for /usr/bin.. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 20:14:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27676 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:14:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27671; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:14:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@FreeBSD.org) From: Matt Dillon Received: (from dillon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA14797; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:14:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:14:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901010414.UAA14797@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/ufs/mfs mfs_vfsops.c Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dillon 1998/12/31 20:14:11 PST Modified files: sys/ufs/mfs mfs_vfsops.c Log: The mount_mfs process that stays in a supervisor context handling MFS I/O requests must be marked P_SYSTEM because if it isn't and the system decides to swap it or (god forbid) kill it, the system stands a good chance of locking up. Revision Changes Path 1.53 +11 -1 src/sys/ufs/mfs/mfs_vfsops.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 20:16:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27992 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:16:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27987; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:16:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@FreeBSD.org) From: Peter Wemm Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA14918; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:16:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:16:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901010416.UAA14918@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf LINT Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk peter 1998/12/31 20:16:33 PST Modified files: sys/i386/conf LINT Log: Oops, forgot to commit entry in LINT for statically configured vinum. Revision Changes Path 1.525 +3 -1 src/sys/i386/conf/LINT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 20:43:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA29310 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:43:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29305; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:43:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA15343; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:43:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:43:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901010443.UAA15343@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/devel/libgtop Makefile ports/devel/libgtop/files md5 ports/devel/libgtop/patches patch-aa patch-ab patch-ac patch-ad patch-af ports/devel/libgtop/pkg PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/31 20:43:05 PST Modified files: devel/libgtop Makefile devel/libgtop/files md5 devel/libgtop/patches patch-aa patch-ab patch-ac devel/libgtop/pkg PLIST Removed files: devel/libgtop/patches patch-ad patch-af Log: Upgrade to 0.99. Revision Changes Path 1.9 +11 -6 ports/devel/libgtop/Makefile 1.2 +1 -1 ports/devel/libgtop/files/md5 1.2 +14 -14 ports/devel/libgtop/patches/patch-aa 1.2 +35 -35 ports/devel/libgtop/patches/patch-ab 1.2 +21 -20 ports/devel/libgtop/patches/patch-ac 1.2 +18 -7 ports/devel/libgtop/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 22:33:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA09138 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:33:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09132; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:33:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA16947; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:20:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:20:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901010620.WAA16947@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/x11/gnomecore Makefile ports/x11/gnomecore/files md5 ports/x11/gnomecore/patches patch-aa patch-ab patch-ac patch-ad patch-ae patch-af patch-ag patch-ah ports/x11/gnomecore/pkg PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/31 22:20:56 PST Modified files: x11/gnomecore Makefile x11/gnomecore/files md5 x11/gnomecore/patches patch-aa patch-ab patch-ac patch-ad patch-ae patch-af patch-ag x11/gnomecore/pkg PLIST Removed files: x11/gnomecore/patches patch-ah Log: Upgrade to 0.99.1. Revision Changes Path 1.8 +10 -8 ports/x11/gnomecore/Makefile 1.3 +1 -1 ports/x11/gnomecore/files/md5 1.4 +21 -28 ports/x11/gnomecore/patches/patch-aa 1.3 +11 -11 ports/x11/gnomecore/patches/patch-ab 1.3 +3 -3 ports/x11/gnomecore/patches/patch-ac 1.3 +4 -4 ports/x11/gnomecore/patches/patch-ad 1.3 +222 -227 ports/x11/gnomecore/patches/patch-ae 1.3 +24 -24 ports/x11/gnomecore/patches/patch-af 1.2 +9 -9 ports/x11/gnomecore/patches/patch-ag 1.5 +70 -47 ports/x11/gnomecore/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 22:44:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA09911 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:44:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09898; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:44:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vanilla@FreeBSD.org) From: "Vanilla I. Shu" Received: (from vanilla@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA17327; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:44:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:44:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901010644.WAA17327@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/sysutils/gtop Makefile ports/sysutils/gtop/files md5 ports/sysutils/gtop/patches patch-ae patch-aa patch-ab patch-ac patch-ad ports/sysutils/gtop/pkg PLIST Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk vanilla 1998/12/31 22:44:36 PST Modified files: sysutils/gtop Makefile sysutils/gtop/files md5 sysutils/gtop/patches patch-aa patch-ab patch-ac patch-ad sysutils/gtop/pkg PLIST Added files: sysutils/gtop/patches patch-ae Log: Upgrade to 0.99.0 Revision Changes Path 1.3 +8 -5 ports/sysutils/gtop/Makefile 1.2 +1 -1 ports/sysutils/gtop/files/md5 1.2 +21 -20 ports/sysutils/gtop/patches/patch-aa 1.2 +16 -16 ports/sysutils/gtop/patches/patch-ab 1.2 +14 -3 ports/sysutils/gtop/patches/patch-ac 1.2 +19 -28 ports/sysutils/gtop/patches/patch-ad 1.2 +1 -0 ports/sysutils/gtop/pkg/PLIST To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 23:19:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12528 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:19:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA12521; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:19:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuriyama@FreeBSD.org) From: Jun Kuriyama Received: (from kuriyama@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA18616; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:19:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:19:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901010719.XAA18616@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: ports/japanese/postgresql Makefile ports/japanese/postgresql/files md5 ports/japanese/postgresql/patches patch-an patch-ao patch-ap patch-aq patch-ad patch-ak ports/japanese/postgresql/pkg INSTALL PLIST PLIST.tcl ports/japanese/postgresql/scripts createuser.tmpl Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk kuriyama 1998/12/31 23:19:46 PST Modified files: japanese/postgresql Makefile japanese/postgresql/files md5 japanese/postgresql/patches patch-ad patch-ak japanese/postgresql/pkg PLIST PLIST.tcl Added files: japanese/postgresql/patches patch-an patch-ao patch-ap patch-aq japanese/postgresql/pkg INSTALL Removed files: japanese/postgresql/scripts createuser.tmpl Log: Upgrade to v6.4. This version of port does not support complete packing list for -DMULTIBYTE, -DUSE_PERL or -DUSE_ODBC options. I'll fix it later. PR: ports/8856, ports/8976 Submitted by: Ichiro Fukuhara Revision Changes Path 1.4 +62 -31 ports/japanese/postgresql/Makefile 1.3 +2 -2 ports/japanese/postgresql/files/md5 1.2 +2 -2 ports/japanese/postgresql/patches/patch-ad 1.2 +9 -9 ports/japanese/postgresql/patches/patch-ak 1.2 +229 -112 ports/japanese/postgresql/pkg/PLIST 1.2 +272 -116 ports/japanese/postgresql/pkg/PLIST.tcl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message From owner-cvs-all Thu Dec 31 23:29:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13283 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:29:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13260; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 23:29:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04656; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 02:22:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 02:22:44 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Mike Smith cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , mark@grondar.za, dcs@newsguy.com, alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.eud, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: <199812312006.MAA01368@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > what if no one else likes postfix. > > > > postfix is coming into the tree as /usr/src/contrib. > > sendmail is the default mail transfer agent. > > individual users can switch either machines to use postfix as > > the mta. > > there is no intention of removing sendmail from the tree. > > This clearly demonstrates that there is no mandate, nor no technical > justification for bringing postfix in. Please make a port of it and > stay with convention. > > Now is not a good time for a -core member to be demonstrating personal > bias over established convention with regards to the FreeBSD source tree. Mike may be right, essentially, but it's too darn bad. Jon is extremely qualified to tell what a good mailer is, he's been in a unique position both to test *and* to benchmark the heck out of a mailer, he's found a mailer that is a huge improvement over sendmail in more ways than I care to list here and avoids future license problems, but politics isn't going to let this happen. Mike may be right, but it's depressing just the same. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message