From owner-freebsd-java Wed Aug 5 08:43:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04608 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 08:43:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flowbee.beckman.uiuc.edu (flowbee.beckman.uiuc.edu [128.174.212.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04587 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 08:43:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swwilso1@flowbee.beckman.uiuc.edu) Received: from localhost (swwilso1@localhost) by flowbee.beckman.uiuc.edu (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA18731 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:42:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:42:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Wilson To: java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Whom it may concern: I've tried downloading the file mentioned in the subject line from www.freebsd.org/java several times from my FreeBSD box as well as my Win95 machinef and each time I run gunzip on the file I get a crc error. Would you check the file to make sure everything is ok. If the file is ok, would you point me to another place to get this file from. TIA, Steve Wilson swwilso1@flowbee.beckman.uiuc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Aug 5 10:17:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19879 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:17:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp (fse4.aist-nara.ac.jp [163.221.76.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19837 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:17:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from takas-su@is.aist-nara.ac.jp) Received: from decpc20.aist-nara.ac.jp (decpc20.aist-nara.ac.jp [163.221.172.33]) by mailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.6W/NAIST/GATE-3.4c) with ESMTP id CAA22568 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 02:17:07 +0900 (JST) Received: from is (takas-su@localhost) by decpc20.aist-nara.ac.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.5Wpl5/NAIST/2.0) id CAA16244; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 02:17:29 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 02:17:29 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199808051717.CAA16244@decpc20.aist-nara.ac.jp> From: takas-su@is.aist-nara.ac.jp (SUGIMURA Takashi/ =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP3lCPBsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNS4bKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCO04bKEI=?=) To: java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:42:49 -0500 (CDT)". Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.20] 1996-12/08(Sun) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article of , swwilso1@flowbee.beckman.uiuc.edu wrote: >> To Whom it may concern: >> I'm only a user, >> I've tried downloading the file mentioned in the subject line from >> www.freebsd.org/java several times from my FreeBSD box as well as my Win95 >> machinef and each time I run gunzip on the file I get a crc error. Would >> you check the file to make sure everything is ok. If the file is ok, >> would you point me to another place to get this file from. I also download it from http://www.freebsd.org/java/ last week, but it's all OK. The checksum is the following: % md5 jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz MD5 (jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz) = a29020b1659bdb599e4fd6d9f8285eee This is the same as ports/lang/jdk/files/md5 in ports-current. By the way, I found a problem in it. When I execute a Java application or applet by appletviewer, it always shows only upper and left side. It seems the calculation of the coordinates of the point is something wrong. My environment is: 2.2.7-stable (98/08/02) XFree86 3.3.2.3 fvwm95 etc. The others are OK for me, especially it is more stable and Japanese characters can be showed. Thank you. --- SUGIMURA Takashi (takas-su@is.aist-nara.ac.jp) URL: http://hawk.aist-nara.ac.jp/%7Etakas-su/ (sorry only in Japanese) Software Engineering lab. of NAIST, 2nd grade of Master, The FreeBSD Japanese Documentation Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Aug 5 10:58:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27169 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:58:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27080 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:58:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03662; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:57:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA07622; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:57:50 -0600 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:57:50 -0600 Message-Id: <199808051757.LAA07622@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: takas-su@is.aist-nara.ac.jp (SUGIMURA Takashi/ =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP3lCPBsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNS4bKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCO04bKEI=?=) Cc: java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz In-Reply-To: <199808051717.CAA16244@decpc20.aist-nara.ac.jp> References: <199808051717.CAA16244@decpc20.aist-nara.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > By the way, I found a problem in it. > When I execute a Java application or applet by appletviewer, > it always shows only upper and left side. As the WWW page mentions, this bug is one in *ALL* JDK1.1.6 versions (including the Solaris release), and is not specific to FreeBSD. It will be fixed when Sun fixes the original JDK sources and/or someone figures out the bug and fixes so we can submit the fix back to SUN. Nate ps. Glad to hear it working for you! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Aug 5 11:22:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02139 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:22:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp (fse4.aist-nara.ac.jp [163.221.76.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02040 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:21:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from takas-su@is.aist-nara.ac.jp) Received: from decpc20.aist-nara.ac.jp (decpc20.aist-nara.ac.jp [163.221.172.33]) by mailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.6W/NAIST/GATE-3.4c) with ESMTP id DAA26670; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 03:21:37 +0900 (JST) Received: from is (takas-su@localhost) by decpc20.aist-nara.ac.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.5Wpl5/NAIST/2.0) id DAA16332; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 03:21:59 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 03:21:59 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199808051821.DAA16332@decpc20.aist-nara.ac.jp> From: takas-su@is.aist-nara.ac.jp (SUGIMURA Takashi/ =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP3lCPBsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNS4bKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCO04bKEI=?=) To: nate@mt.sri.com Cc: java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:57:50 -0600". <199808051757.LAA07622@mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.20] 1996-12/08(Sun) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article of <199808051757.LAA07622@mt.sri.com>, nate@mt.sri.com wrote: >> As the WWW page mentions, this bug is one in *ALL* JDK1.1.6 versions >> (including the Solaris release), and is not specific to FreeBSD. It >> will be fixed when Sun fixes the original JDK sources and/or someone >> figures out the bug and fixes so we can submit the fix back to SUN. >> Oh, I see. At the Section 6 it has been written, I was not careful enough. I am going to translate the page into Japanese to become popular. >> ps. Glad to hear it working for you! >> I am also very happy I can do programming in Java on FreeBSD. BDK 1.0 (March '98) works well, too. I will test the newer version of BDK. Thank you. --- SUGIMURA Takashi (takas-su@is.aist-nara.ac.jp) URL: http://hawk.aist-nara.ac.jp/%7Etakas-su/ (sorry only in Japanese) Software Engineering lab. of NAIST, 2nd grade of Master, The FreeBSD Japanese Documentation Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Aug 5 16:36:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16450 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:36:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fep6.mail.ozemail.net (fep6.mail.ozemail.net [203.2.192.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16443 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:36:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe.shevland@horizonti.com) Received: from itb_c1305 (pc165.ecc.tased.edu.au [147.41.64.165]) by fep6.mail.ozemail.net (8.9.0/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA02219; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:36:14 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <35C8DE56.847CE185@horizonti.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 09:36:06 +1100 From: Joe Shevland X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Wilson CC: java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve Wilson wrote: > To Whom it may concern: > > I've tried downloading the file mentioned in the subject line from > www.freebsd.org/java several times from my FreeBSD box as well as my > Win95 > machinef and each time I run gunzip on the file I get a crc error. > Would > you check the file to make sure everything is ok. If the file is ok, > would you point me to another place to get this file from. > > TIA, > > Steve Wilson > swwilso1@flowbee.beckman.uiuc.edu I didn't have any trouble downloading this the other day. I guess you could try setting your transfer mode to binary if you're using FTP (I'm not sure if this is served on FTP actually; I just did a browser HTTP download, which incidentally took about five hours). Are there legal issues with including the JDK 1.1.x on the Walnut Creek CD-ROMS? Regards, Joe Shevland. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Aug 5 16:41:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16873 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:41:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fep6.mail.ozemail.net (fep6.mail.ozemail.net [203.2.192.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16865 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:41:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe.shevland@horizonti.com) Received: from itb_c1305 (pc165.ecc.tased.edu.au [147.41.64.165]) by fep6.mail.ozemail.net (8.9.0/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA04309; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:41:03 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <35C8DF77.1EC2B36@horizonti.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 09:40:55 +1100 From: Joe Shevland X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: takas-su@is.aist-nara.ac.jp CC: nate@mt.sri.com, java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199808051821.DAA16332@decpc20.aist-nara.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org SUGIMURA Takashi/ 杉村 貴 士 wrote: > In article of <199808051757.LAA07622@mt.sri.com>, > nate@mt.sri.com wrote: > >> As the WWW page mentions, this bug is one in *ALL* JDK1.1.6 > versions > >> (including the Solaris release), and is not specific to FreeBSD. > It > >> will be fixed when Sun fixes the original JDK sources and/or > someone > >> figures out the bug and fixes so we can submit the fix back to SUN. > > >> > > Oh, I see. > At the Section 6 it has been written, > I was not careful enough. > > I am going to translate the page into Japanese to become popular. > > >> ps. Glad to hear it working for you! > >> > > I am also very happy I can do programming in Java on FreeBSD. > BDK 1.0 (March '98) works well, too. > I will test the newer version of BDK. Just to put my bit in as well, I haven't experienced any problems at all with the JDK 1.1.6 (apart from, as you said, the window manager/applet viewer prob). I've noticed that the javadoc program is a true chewer of memory; this though is also a cross-platform problem (good thing about cross-platform software; you get cross-platform bugs :) Anyway, thanks very much to all who put the time in to make Java on FreeBSD a reality. This has helped me no end in testing Internet/intranet apps on a quality OS. When Win crashes once too often or misbehaves as usual, its comforting to know I can jump onto my BSD box with Apache, Java servlets, the JDK and all the other bells and whistles... and have it work. Regards, Joe Shevland. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 6 05:47:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00383 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 05:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iglou.com (iglou2.iglou.com [192.107.41.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00365 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 05:47:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@cre8tivegroup.com) Received: from [204.255.227.122] (helo=gateway.cre8tivegroup.com) by iglou.com with esmtp (8.9.1/8.9.1) id 0z4PRE-0006Zt-00; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:46:36 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <35C8DE56.847CE185@horizonti.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 08:47:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Gardella To: Joe Shevland Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz Cc: java@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org No. We can and do distribute JDK on the CDs. So long as we don't charge for it, nor distribute it with a Java product, we are legal. Patrick On 05-Aug-98 Joe Shevland wrote: > Are there legal issues with including the JDK 1.1.x on the Walnut Creek > CD-ROMS? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 6 05:53:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00977 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 05:53:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from niki.isdnet.net (ns.isdnet.net [194.149.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00968 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 05:53:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boris@mmania.com) Received: from mmp.mmania.com (tic.aspic.com [195.154.103.7]) by niki.isdnet.net (8.8.4/8.7.5) with SMTP id OAA08135 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 14:51:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [195.154.103.15] by mmp.mmania.com (NTMail 3.03.0017/1.acox) with ESMTP id sa139794 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 14:51:07 +0200 Message-ID: <35C9A7B5.1B86313D@mmania.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 14:55:17 +0200 From: Boris Granveaud Organization: MultiMania Production X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 6 07:22:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11608 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:22:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11586 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:22:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA11404; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:21:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA12098; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:21:49 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:21:49 -0600 Message-Id: <199808061421.IAA12098@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Patrick Gardella Cc: Joe Shevland , java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz In-Reply-To: References: <35C8DE56.847CE185@horizonti.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > No. We can and do distribute JDK on the CDs. If so, we certainly shouldn't. Distributing the JDK *except* via the net is illegal according to SUN. You can distribute the JRE legally, but *NOT* the JDK. *phew* I just checked, and indeed we don't put it on the CDROM. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 6 07:42:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14820 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:42:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iglou.com (iglou2.iglou.com [192.107.41.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14812 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:42:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@cre8tivegroup.com) Received: from [204.255.227.56] (helo=gateway.cre8tivegroup.com) by iglou.com with esmtp (8.9.1/8.9.1) id 0z4REQ-0006Q9-00; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:41:33 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199808061421.IAA12098@mt.sri.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 10:41:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Gardella To: Nate Williams Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz Cc: java@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From the license I signed: Sun grants to Licensee the royalty-free right to distribute binary code developed and compiled from the Licensed Software in accordance with Subsection 1.1 above ("Derived Binaries"), provided that: (i) Derived Binaries are not integrated, bundled, combined or associated in any way with a product, (ii) there is no charge associated with such distribution, (iii) Derived Binaries are fully compatible with the then-current version of the publicly available test suite supplied by Sun which verifies Java compatibility ("JavaTest Suite") and must remain compatible with subsequent versions of the JavaTest Suites and upgraded Licensed Software, and (iv) Derived Binaries are distributed subject to a license agreement containing terms and conditions at least as protective of Sun as those included in the binary code license used by Sun for internet distribution of the Java binaries. In the event that Licensee desires that such distribution be fee-based, or be associated with a product, Licensee must execute a commercial license agreement with Sun. Are we considering the CD either (a) a product or (b) charging for it? I don't consider that we are doing either. If JDK can be place in a book, and the book can be charged for, why can't we distribute them? And we've been distributing jdk102 on CD's for a while. I checked my 2.2.5-RELEASE CD's. It's on disk four in the /usr/ports/distfiles directory. On another matter. Since I was reading the source license, what about this clause: "Licensee shall not export, re-export or transfer, whether directly or indirectly, Licensed Software or Derived Binaries or direct products thereof, to any person or company who is a legal resident or is controlled by a legal resident of any proscribed country listed in the U.S. Export Administration Regulations (or any equivalent thereof) unless properly authorized by the U.S. Government." Are we "exporting" in a legal sense? Patrick On 06-Aug-98 Nate Williams wrote: >> No. We can and do distribute JDK on the CDs. > > If so, we certainly shouldn't. Distributing the JDK *except* via the > net is illegal according to SUN. You can distribute the JRE legally, > but *NOT* the JDK. > > *phew* I just checked, and indeed we don't put it on the CDROM. > > Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 6 07:53:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16032 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:53:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16026 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:53:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA11635; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:53:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA12276; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:53:32 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:53:32 -0600 Message-Id: <199808061453.IAA12276@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Patrick Gardella Cc: Nate Williams , java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz In-Reply-To: References: <199808061421.IAA12098@mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >From the license I signed: > Sun grants to Licensee the royalty-free right to distribute binary code > developed and compiled from the Licensed Software in accordance with Subsection > 1.1 above ("Derived Binaries"), provided that: (i) Derived Binaries are not > integrated, bundled, combined or associated in any way with a product, (ii) > there is no charge associated with such distribution, (iii) Derived Binaries are > fully compatible with the then-current version of the publicly available test > suite supplied by Sun which verifies Java compatibility ("JavaTest Suite") > and must remain compatible with subsequent versions of the JavaTest Suites and > upgraded Licensed Software, and (iv) Derived Binaries are distributed subject to > a license agreement containing terms and conditions at least as protective of > Sun as those included in the binary code license used by Sun for internet > distribution of the Java binaries. In the event that Licensee desires that such > distribution be fee-based, or be associated with a product, Licensee must > execute a commercial license agreement with Sun. So far so good. Note the 'for internet distribution'. > Are we considering the CD either (a) a product or (b) charging for it? It's a product for Walnut Creek. Matter of fact, the CD *is* the only product from WC. > I don't consider that we are doing either. If JDK can be place in a > book, and the book can be charged for, why can't we distribute them? As a matter of fact, you can't in fact put the JDK on a CD and distribute it with a book. > And we've been distributing jdk102 on CD's for a while. I checked my > 2.2.5-RELEASE CD's. Look again. The only thing in the package is the class files. The actual JDK distribution isn't in there. > On another matter. Since I was reading the source license, what about this > clause: > > "Licensee shall not export, re-export or transfer, whether directly or > indirectly, Licensed Software or Derived Binaries or direct products thereof, to > any person or company who is a legal resident or is controlled by a > legal resident of any proscribed country listed in the U.S. Export > Administration Regulations (or any equivalent thereof) unless properly > authorized by the U.S. Government." > > Are we "exporting" in a legal sense? That's a sticky matter best left up to lawyers. Due to a legal precedence set by a lawyer in S.F., Walnut Creek's lawyers have deemed it 'OK' to distribute some of the products deemed illegal by the export laws, and to be honest I haven't cared much about it. Maybe I should???? Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 6 08:02:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17586 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:02:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iglou.com (iglou2.iglou.com [192.107.41.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17577 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@cre8tivegroup.com) Received: from [204.255.227.56] (helo=gateway.cre8tivegroup.com) by iglou.com with esmtp (8.9.1/8.9.1) id 0z4RYm-000050-00; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:02:33 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199808061453.IAA12276@mt.sri.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 11:03:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Gardella To: Nate Williams Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz Cc: java@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 06-Aug-98 Nate Williams wrote: >> >From the license I signed: >> Sun grants to Licensee the royalty-free right to distribute binary code >> developed and compiled from the Licensed Software in accordance with >> Subsection >> 1.1 above ("Derived Binaries"), provided that: (i) Derived Binaries are not >> integrated, bundled, combined or associated in any way with a product, (ii) >> there is no charge associated with such distribution, (iii) Derived Binaries >> are fully compatible with the then-current version of the publicly available >> test suite supplied by Sun which verifies Java compatibility ("JavaTest >> Suite") and must remain compatible with subsequent versions of the JavaTest >> Suites and upgraded Licensed Software, and (iv) Derived Binaries are >> distributed subject to a license agreement containing terms and conditions >> at least as protective of Sun as those included in the binary code license >> used by Sun for internet distribution of the Java binaries. In the event >> that Licensee desires that such distribution be fee-based, or be >> associated with a product, Licensee must execute a commercial license >> agreement with Sun. > > So far so good. Note the 'for internet distribution'. Ah. Fine print always gets you :) >> Are we considering the CD either (a) a product or (b) charging for it? > > It's a product for Walnut Creek. Matter of fact, the CD *is* the only > product from WC. I was considering a product to be a Java product that JDK was bundled with. If it's any product, then we can't distribute it, as you have said. >> I don't consider that we are doing either. If JDK can be place in a >> book, and the book can be charged for, why can't we distribute them? > > As a matter of fact, you can't in fact put the JDK on a CD and > distribute it with a book. Hum. I wonder if they have a commercial license, or if we can arrange with Sun to distribute it freely on the CD. I'll follow that up. >> And we've been distributing jdk102 on CD's for a while. I checked my >> 2.2.5-RELEASE CD's. > > Look again. The only thing in the package is the class files. The > actual JDK distribution isn't in there. I didn't open it. Haven't used 1.02 in a long time. >> On another matter. Since I was reading the source license, what about this >> clause: >> >> "Licensee shall not export, re-export or transfer, whether directly or >> indirectly, Licensed Software or Derived Binaries or direct products >> thereof, to any person or company who is a legal resident or is controlled >> by a legal resident of any proscribed country listed in the U.S. Export >> Administration Regulations (or any equivalent thereof) unless properly >> authorized by the U.S. Government." >> >> Are we "exporting" in a legal sense? > > That's a sticky matter best left up to lawyers. Due to a legal > precedence set by a lawyer in S.F., Walnut Creek's lawyers have deemed > it 'OK' to distribute some of the products deemed illegal by the export > laws, and to be honest I haven't cared much about it. > > Maybe I should???? Nah. If they scream, we'll take it off. Pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 6 08:12:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18917 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:12:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18912 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:12:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA11739; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:11:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA12376; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:11:55 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:11:55 -0600 Message-Id: <199808061511.JAA12376@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Patrick Gardella Cc: Nate Williams , java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz In-Reply-To: References: <199808061453.IAA12276@mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> Are we considering the CD either (a) a product or (b) charging for it? > > > > It's a product for Walnut Creek. Matter of fact, the CD *is* the only > > product from WC. > > I was considering a product to be a Java product that JDK was bundled with. If > it's any product, then we can't distribute it, as you have said. Lawyers in the past have made no distinction between 'charging for media' and charging for 'product'. I expect Sun's lawyers to behave the same, and so do all of the other porters. > >> I don't consider that we are doing either. If JDK can be place in a > >> book, and the book can be charged for, why can't we distribute them? > > > > As a matter of fact, you can't in fact put the JDK on a CD and > > distribute it with a book. > > Hum. I wonder if they have a commercial license, or if we can arrange with > Sun to distribute it freely on the CD. I'll follow that up. A commercial license costs close to a million $$. I talked with someone whose company actually bought one, and there's no way WC is going to do that just to distribute the JDK. As far as SUN allowing giving dispensation, I gave up on trying to have any meaningful relationship with them. They promised 6-9 months ago that we (the FreeBSD java porters) would get access to the JDK1.2 sources long before they went public. I kept on them for weeks until they finally quit answering email. Apparently the Linux folks have the same problem, and their advocate *works* for Javasoft. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 6 08:21:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20805 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:21:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iglou.com (iglou2.iglou.com [192.107.41.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20797 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:21:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@cre8tivegroup.com) Received: from [204.255.227.56] (helo=gateway.cre8tivegroup.com) by iglou.com with esmtp (8.9.1/8.9.1) id 0z4Rqk-0001G2-00; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:21:06 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199808061511.JAA12376@mt.sri.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 11:21:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Gardella To: Nate Williams Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz Cc: java@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 06-Aug-98 Nate Williams wrote: >> Hum. I wonder if they have a commercial license, or if we can arrange with >> Sun to distribute it freely on the CD. I'll follow that up. > > A commercial license costs close to a million $$. I talked with someone > whose company actually bought one, and there's no way WC is going to do > that just to distribute the JDK. > > As far as SUN allowing giving dispensation, I gave up on trying to have > any meaningful relationship with them. They promised 6-9 months ago > that we (the FreeBSD java porters) would get access to the JDK1.2 > sources long before they went public. I kept on them for weeks until > they finally quit answering email. Apparently the Linux folks have the > same problem, and their advocate *works* for Javasoft. Well that certainly answers that. Oh well. Thanks, Patrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 6 16:58:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09164 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 16:58:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from eosnts2.ecc.tased.edu.au (eosnts2.ecc.tased.edu.au [147.41.64.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09098 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 16:57:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Joe.Shevland@Central.tased.edu.au) Received: by EOSNTS2 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id <3NR9NFM2>; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:56:53 +1000 Message-ID: <973BBD3E1ADCD01196EB0060B0264115FFAF26@EOSNTS2> From: "Shevland, Joe" To: "'nate@mt.sri.com'" Cc: "'java@FreeBSD.ORG'" , "'marketing@javasoft.com'" Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:56:50 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Patrick Gardella wrote: > > On 06-Aug-98 Nate Williams wrote: > >> Hum. I wonder if they have a commercial license, or if we can arrange with > >> Sun to distribute it freely on the CD. I'll follow that up. > > > > A commercial license costs close to a million $$. I talked with someone > > whose company actually bought one, and there's no way WC is going to do > > that just to distribute the JDK. > > > > As far as SUN allowing giving dispensation, I gave up on trying to have > > any meaningful relationship with them. They promised 6-9 months ago > > that we (the FreeBSD java porters) would get access to the JDK1.2 > > sources long before they went public. I kept on them for weeks until > > they finally quit answering email. Apparently the Linux folks have the > > same problem, and their advocate *works* for Javasoft. > > Well that certainly answers that. Oh well. > > Thanks, > > Patrick I know Javasoft have had an upheaval of some description recently; they might need to get their act together or have possibly lost some staff that previously were handling this issue. Having said that, I think its poor that they are destroying an obviously crucial business partner in the Linux/FreeBSD camps. I would have thought they'd love to get the JDK out to as many people as possible... obviously they don't need the support I thought they did. Joe. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Aug 7 12:13:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00175 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:13:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29848; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:12:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id VAA11810; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 21:12:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by campa.panke.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21066; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 21:02:55 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from wosch) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 21:02:55 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199808071902.VAA21066@campa.panke.de> From: Wolfram Schneider To: java@FreeBSD.ORG CC: jordan@FreeBSD.ORG, dg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Moving java files from web server to ftp server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The /java/ directory at www.freebsd.org/java/ create every day 35% of the total web traffic, thats 500-600MB/day. Some *.tar.gz files are very large, 5-12MB each. HTTP is the wrong protocol for transfering large data, e.g. it does not support the 'reget' function. Can we move the large files to the FTP server ftp.freebsd.org? -- Wolfram Schneider http://www.freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Aug 7 13:49:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19688 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 13:49:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19594; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 13:48:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23814; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:48:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA21096; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:48:30 -0600 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:48:30 -0600 Message-Id: <199808072048.OAA21096@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: java@FreeBSD.ORG, jordan@FreeBSD.ORG, dg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moving java files from web server to ftp server In-Reply-To: <199808071902.VAA21066@campa.panke.de> References: <199808071902.VAA21066@campa.panke.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The /java/ directory at www.freebsd.org/java/ create every day 35% of > the total web traffic, thats 500-600MB/day. Wow, that's *great*. :) :) > Some *.tar.gz files are > very large, 5-12MB each. HTTP is the wrong protocol for transfering > large data, e.g. it does not support the 'reget' function. Can we move > the large files to the FTP server ftp.freebsd.org? A number of folks have been asking for this, but I'm in no position to give out ftp access to myself on wcarchive. David? Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Aug 7 15:09:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05454 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:09:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05427; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:09:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27937; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:07:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Wolfram Schneider cc: java@FreeBSD.ORG, jordan@FreeBSD.ORG, dg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moving java files from web server to ftp server In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Aug 1998 21:02:55 +0200." <199808071902.VAA21066@campa.panke.de> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 15:07:06 -0700 Message-ID: <27934.902527626@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't see any reason why not - where specifically do you want it? Under development/lang/java? - JOrdan > > The /java/ directory at www.freebsd.org/java/ create every day 35% of > the total web traffic, thats 500-600MB/day. Some *.tar.gz files are > very large, 5-12MB each. HTTP is the wrong protocol for transfering > large data, e.g. it does not support the 'reget' function. Can we move > the large files to the FTP server ftp.freebsd.org? > > -- > Wolfram Schneider http://www.freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Aug 7 17:10:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25424 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25389; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:09:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA25346; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 18:09:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA22541; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 18:09:06 -0600 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 18:09:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199808080009.SAA22541@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Wolfram Schneider , java@FreeBSD.ORG, jordan@FreeBSD.ORG, dg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moving java files from web server to ftp server In-Reply-To: <27934.902527626@time.cdrom.com> References: <199808071902.VAA21066@campa.panke.de> <27934.902527626@time.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I don't see any reason why not - where specifically do you want it? > Under development/lang/java? I need a place where I can update it on a regular basis. Either that or a shell script could mirror it from someplace that I can stick it. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message