From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Nov 1 08:19:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27095 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 08:19:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net (porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net [206.64.4.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27089 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 08:19:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA14873; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:22:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:22:24 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG cc: luigi@iet.unipi.it Subject: odd soundblaster messages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org when telling freebsd-x11amp to play an mp3 i get these on my consol: sorry, read DMA channel unavailable sorry, read DMA channel unavailable sorry, read DMA channel unavailable WARNING: rdintr but read DMA inactive! WARNING: rdintr but read DMA inactive! the WARNING line is repeated VERY fast as long as i keep playing. pcm0 at 0x220 irq 10 drq 3 flags 0x15 on isa the only thing i can think of is that i did a soft reboot which didn't reinit the driver properly because i didn't see this behavior with my last run. music plays fine though, i'm going to try a hard reboot to see if it fixes things. if there a way to issue a card reset while up and running? the card is a genuine SB16+SCSI. (please cc as i'm not on this list) Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 2 09:50:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13063 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:50:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.giovannelli.it (www.giovannelli.it [194.184.65.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13000; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:49:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Received: from suzy (modem03.masternet.it [194.184.65.13]) by www.giovannelli.it (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA00799; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:44:28 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199811021744.SAA00799@www.giovannelli.it> From: "Gianmarco Giovannelli" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:57:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: bt848 broken ? Reply-to: gmarco@giovannelli.it CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's a couple of days that I receive this error when I try to compile the kernel (cvsupped twice a day, last five minutes ago 981102 18:45 CET) .c ../../libkern/strcat.c ../../libkern/strcmp.c ../../libkern/strcpy.c ../../libkern/strlen.c ../../libkern/strncmp.c ../../libkern/strncpy.c ../../libkern/udivdi3.c ../../libkern/umoddi3.c swapkernel.c ioconf.c param.c vnode_if.c config.c ../../pci/brooktree848.c:361: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory ../../pci/brooktree848.c:362: iicbus_if.h: No such file or directory ../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:61: iicbb_if.h: No such file or directory ../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:62: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop. Have I missed something ? Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli (http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco) "Unix expert since yesterday" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 2 12:25:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29074 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:25:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xcf.berkeley.edu (scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA29067 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:25:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grady@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU) Message-Id: <199811022025.MAA29067@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 25908 invoked from network); 2 Nov 1998 20:26:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Nov 1998 20:26:27 -0000 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How can we switch to a higher-level audio interface? From: grady@xcf.berkeley.edu (Steven Grady) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <25904.910038386.1@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:26:26 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Summary: the current standard of interacting directly with the audio device sucks. What approach can we take to improve it, if any?] As I've been experimenting more with various audio-related pieces of software in the last few months, I've become more and more concerned with the fact that there is an increasing body of software that uses a _really_ broken approach to sound, namely, to open the device directly. This has three serious problems: it doesn't work over the network, only one application at a time can play a sound, and it is a low-level API. All of these problems used to exist for graphics, which was of course why X was developed. There have been various solutions proposed -- the Network Audio Server is probably the most advanced, but development/maintenance seems abandoned, and the documentation is skimpy (I know -- I'm trying to write an application that uses it). There's also rplay, KDE's kaudioserver (which I haven't looked into yet), and some others. The problem is that none of these solutions is being adopted on a widespread basis. Instead, new applications still use /dev/audio, /dev/dsp, etc. It seems to me that there are a few reasons why no server-based model has been adopted. The main reason is that there is no standard. Unlike X, there is no single interface that everyone uses. Also, the various solutions are not particularly robust -- who wants to spend their precious development time debugging someone else's code? But most likely, I think that it is just a huge blind spot for most people -- people seem comfortable with direct device access, despite there being a much better alternative model literally in front of their faces. It's worth analyzing the three problems I mentioned above: non-network: apparently not a serious problem for most people, since most people run the applications on the machine in front of them. An obvious exception is X terminals, which is why NCD took over the development of NAS. But most BSD/Linux people don't run on X terminals. low-level API: only affects developers. I'm sure the developers dealing with sound would like a higher-level API (I know I do), but since the user won't see it, it doesn't seem worth dealing with. exclusive access: This is the thing that amazes me. I HATE not having common access. I want to use the audio to play mpeg3s, have interesting system sounds, use speak-freely, run timidity, play games, etc. Right now, I have to choose which one I want, and turn off everything else. That SUCKS. Why aren't users up in arms about this? Okay, so my question is, is it too late to do anything about this? Here are some possible approaches: Change the device driver so that multiple access is allowed. Advantages: no applications need to be changed. Addresses the most obvious problem with the least amount of effort. Disadvantages: terrible design -- that kind of functionality should _not go in a device driver. Doesn't address all the problems. Not beneficial outside the FreeBSD world. Dangerous -- bugs in tricky algorithms could cause system to crash. Implement a dynamically-loadable device driver that allows multiple access. Advantages: no applications need to be changed. Disadvantages: Still not a good design. Doesn't address all the problems. Not beneficial outside the FreeBSD world. Requires additional non-trivial work to make the sound driver dynamic (although I think this should be done by someone anyway). Still dangerous. Port all the applications to use NAS (or rplay, kaudioserver, etc.). Advantages: Moves to more X-like model. Disadvantages: SERIOUS porting effort. Locks into one audio API (which may not end up being standard). Such major changes may not be accepted back into code base by original developers. Existing APIs are still fairly low-level. Chosen audio interface must be debugged (both client and server), potentially enhanced to support all existing device-level functionality. Develop toolkit-level API, port all to use that API, implement on top of one or more audio server formats. Ultimately, create multiple language bindings. Advantages: Moves to more tk-like model. Programs that use audio in a simple way (e.g. playing a sound) may require very simple changes, promoting acceptance by original application developers. Eases cross-platform (i.e. beyond UNIX) implementations. Easy to switch low-level interfaces to use the best (most robust and/or functional). Disadvantages: SERIOUS development effort. Non-trivial porting effort. For audio-intensive applications (timidity, speak freely, etc.), not likely to be accepted back into original codebase (until toolkit becomes established). Proliferation of libraries either bloats code, or causes installation problems (with dynamic libraries). Another issue to consider is that we FreeBSD folks are in a priveleged position with respect to the Linux folks. Since our ports model incorporates the patching of existing code bases, we can make programs work with FreeBSD by supplying a patch, rather than trying to get all the individual developers to incorporate whatever changes we come up with. So if we followed one of these approaches, we can experiment just within our world, rather than in the entire free software community. What do people think about these issues? Are there others? Is there any chance that I'll be able to play an mpeg, AND have my system ring when a chat request comes in, without switching to Windows? (Oh, one more thing. This problem occured in displays, it also occurs with sound. In fact, it's a general device-access thing. If we fix this, we still have the problem of accessing the joystick, the CD-ROM, tape drives, etc. People come up with individual ad-hoc solutions; maybe it's time to think about what could be abstracted into a general solution.] (And another thing -- although I've been thinking about this for a while, I was inspired to actually send this e-mail after reading a very interesting memo on open source from a high-level microsoft dude, annotated by Eric Raymond. It occurred to me while reading it that while X provides a wonderful example on the plus side of open source, our current audio problems are a strong example on the minus side. I'd hate to think the audio situation was a lost cause. URL: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/halloween.html) Steven grady@xcf.berkeley.edu "I think life should be more like TV. I think all of life's problems ought to be solved in 30 minutes with simple homilies, don't you? I think weight and oral hygiene ought to be our biggest concerns. I think we should all have powerful, high-paying jobs, and everyone should drive fancy sports cars. All our desires should be instantly gratified. Women should always wear tight clothes, and men should carry powerful handguns. Life overall should be more glamorous, thrill-packed, and filled with applause." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 2 12:42:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01916 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:42:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01907 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:42:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA16522; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:42:17 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id VAA04532; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:42:16 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19981102214216.53859@follo.net> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:42:16 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: GODFREY , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848kpf References: <000701be04de$157e4480$f0403fd4@doug> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <000701be04de$157e4480$f0403fd4@doug>; from GODFREY on Sat, Oct 31, 1998 at 04:52:28PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Oct 31, 1998 at 04:52:28PM +0200, GODFREY wrote: > I need a driver for this video capture card can you help The driver is included in FreeBSD 2.2.5 and newer, if that is what you run. Just add 'device bktr0' to your kernel config. If you're not running FreeBSD - sorry, we can't. The closest is that you can get the sourcecode to the driver from our sourcetree (but you'd have to port it to your system). Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 2 12:43:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02085 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:43:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02024; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:43:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA16530; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:42:56 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id VAA04549; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:42:56 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19981102214256.36935@follo.net> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:42:56 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: gmarco@giovannelli.it, current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 broken ? References: <199811021744.SAA00799@www.giovannelli.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199811021744.SAA00799@www.giovannelli.it>; from Gianmarco Giovannelli on Mon, Nov 02, 1998 at 06:57:27PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 02, 1998 at 06:57:27PM +0100, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > It's a couple of days that I receive this error when I try to compile the kernel > (cvsupped twice a day, last five minutes ago 981102 18:45 CET) > > .c ../../libkern/strcat.c ../../libkern/strcmp.c ../../libkern/strcpy.c > ../../libkern/strlen.c ../../libkern/strncmp.c ../../libkern/strncpy.c > ../../libkern/udivdi3.c ../../libkern/umoddi3.c swapkernel.c ioconf.c param.c > vnode_if.c config.c > ../../pci/brooktree848.c:361: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory > ../../pci/brooktree848.c:362: iicbus_if.h: No such file or directory > ../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:61: iicbb_if.h: No such file or directory > ../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:62: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > Have I missed something ? You have to re-configure your kernel before attempting to recompile it. If you do, and you're up to date, I think it should work... Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 2 13:07:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04486 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:07:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xcf.berkeley.edu (scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA04481 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:07:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grady@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU) Message-Id: <199811022107.NAA04481@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 27754 invoked from network); 2 Nov 1998 21:07:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Nov 1998 21:07:59 -0000 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How can we switch to a higher-level audio interface? From: grady@xcf.berkeley.edu (Steven Grady) In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:26:26 -0800 <199811022025.MAA29067@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <27748.910040878.1@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 13:07:59 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry to reply to my own e-mail, but in thinking about things some more, I had a couple additions to the list of approaches. So v0.2 version: Changes: Added approach of tcl library Added approach of just porting programs which play entire files Added disadvantages about source-less distributions Added ads/disads about event-loops in ports ==== Change the device driver so that multiple access is allowed. Advantages: no applications need to be changed. Addresses the most obvious problem with the least amount of effort. Disadvantages: terrible design -- that kind of functionality should _not go in a device driver. Doesn't address all the problems. Not beneficial outside the FreeBSD world. Dangerous -- bugs in tricky algorithms could cause system to crash. Implement a dynamically-loadable device driver that allows multiple access. Advantages: no applications need to be changed. Disadvantages: Still not a good design. Doesn't address all the problems. Not beneficial outside the FreeBSD world. Requires additional non-trivial work to make the sound driver dynamic (although I think this should be done by someone anyway). Still dangerous. Port all the applications to use NAS (or rplay, kaudioserver, etc.). Advantages: Moves to more X-like model. Disadvantages: SERIOUS porting effort. Locks into one audio API (which may not end up being standard). Such major changes may not be accepted back into code base by original developers. Existing APIs are still fairly low-level. Chosen audio interface must be debugged (both client and server), potentially enhanced to support all existing device-level functionality. Porting may involve fundamental changes to support asynchronous event handling. No port possible for sourceless programs (e.g. x11amp). Develop toolkit-level API, port all to use that API, implement on top of one or more audio server formats. Ultimately, create multiple language bindings. Advantages: Moves to more tk-like model. Programs that use audio in a simple way (e.g. playing a sound) may require very simple changes, promoting acceptance by original application developers. Eases cross-platform (i.e. beyond UNIX) implementations. Easy to switch low-level interfaces to use the best (most robust and/or functional). Conceivably possible to avoid changing event loop when porting code, by forking (yecch). Disadvantages: SERIOUS development effort. Non-trivial porting effort. For audio-intensive applications (timidity, speak freely, etc.), not likely to be accepted back into original codebase (until toolkit becomes established). Proliferation of libraries either bloats code, or causes installation problems (with dynamic libraries). No port possible for sourceless programs (e.g. x11amp). Develop toolkit-level TCL extension on top of existing server interface. Port simple applications to use TCL. Advantages: Moves most to tk-like model. Possible to develop very clean interface, since TCL already uses event loop. Potentially extensible to other platforms that use tk -- perl, etc. New applications can be developed quickly. Disadvantages: Restricted initially to TCL code. Audio output only sharable with other applications that can use TCL. Standardize on NAS (or whatever) in FreeBSD, port simplest audio programs (those that currently invoke "cat $* > /dev/audio", or something similar) to use "auplay" (or equivalent for appropriate server). Advantages: Ports are trivial. Least amount of effort. Disadvantages: Many interesting programs (timidity, speak freely, x11amp, etc.) do more than just cat a file. Audio output only sharable with other applications that use NAS. Possibly choose wrong server to standardize on (since trivial programs don't exercise interface enough to reveal lack of robustness/functionality). -- Steven "Like all reputable surgeons, I charge by the pound..."lsmo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 2 14:06:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14095 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:06:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA14086 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:06:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA14984; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:03:54 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199811022003.VAA14984@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: How can we switch to a higher-level audio interface? To: grady@xcf.berkeley.edu (Steven Grady) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:03:53 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199811022025.MAA29067@hub.freebsd.org> from "Steven Grady" at Nov 2, 98 12:26:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > [Summary: the current standard of interacting directly with the > audio device sucks. What approach can we take to improve it, > if any?] > > As I've been experimenting more with various audio-related pieces > of software in the last few months, I've become more and more > concerned with the fact that there is an increasing body of software > that uses a _really_ broken approach to sound, namely, to open the > device directly. This has three serious problems: it doesn't work > over the network, only one application at a time can play a sound, > and it is a low-level API. All of these problems used to exist > for graphics, which was of course why X was developed. > > There have been various solutions proposed -- the Network Audio > Server is probably the most advanced, but development/maintenance there is one big problem with audio: unless video, you want real time response and a userspace server cannot always help you, let alone the jitter and losses you can have with a networked audio server. Also, there is no equivalent of the "current window"/"input focus" for audio: all output is mixed together. This in my opinion explains why no equivalent of X has become a standard. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 2 14:17:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15564 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:17:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xcf.berkeley.edu (scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA15557 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:17:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grady@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU) Message-Id: <199811022217.OAA15557@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 198 invoked from network); 2 Nov 1998 22:18:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Nov 1998 22:18:38 -0000 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How can we switch to a higher-level audio interface? From: grady@xcf.berkeley.edu (Steven Grady) In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:03:53 +0100 (MET) <199811022003.VAA14984@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <193.910045116.1@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:18:38 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > there is one big problem with audio: unless video, you want real time > response and a userspace server cannot always help you, let alone the > jitter and losses you can have with a networked audio server. It's true you are not guaranteed a real-time response (although FreeBSD does have real-time scheduling, or at least some indications, eg. the man page for rtprio; I don't know anything about it). But a well-written server is not likely to have jitter or losses -- it should certainly be able to keep the buffer filled; and if it can't, then an application program certainly couldn't do any better. So I don't think that's an excuse. > Also, there is no equivalent of the "current window"/"input focus" for > audio: all output is mixed together. Agreed, but to me this is an interesting design problem, not an insurmountable obstacle. For instance, perhaps you need a "source manager" instead of a "window manager". In X, you can work without a window manager, but it will be painful. The source manager could allow you to select one of n source audio streams as the foreground, and have that one have the highest relative volume. If you don't have one running, everything has the same volume. This idea is off the top of my head; I'm sure people could come up with better solutions. Again, the point is that there are indeed interesting problems (some of which the people who've worked on NAS and other technologies have already thought about), but they do not mean that no good solution is possible. (To take the simplest case -- Windows is a proof by example -- at least it's possible to have multiple simultaneous sounds. I sure hope we could do better than Microsoft...) Steven "`Simpson', eh? I'll remember that name!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 2 16:27:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05819 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:27:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from garman.dyn.ml.org (pm106-19.dialip.mich.net [192.195.231.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA05763 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:27:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garman@garman.dyn.ml.org) Message-Id: <199811030027.QAA05763@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 24964 invoked from smtpd); 3 Nov 1998 00:28:02 -0000 Received: from localhost.garman.net (HELO garman.dyn.ml.org) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.garman.net with SMTP; 3 Nov 1998 00:28:02 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:28:01 -0500 (EST) From: garman@earthling.net Reply-To: garman@earthling.net Subject: Re: bt848 broken ? To: gmarco@giovannelli.it cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199811021744.SAA00799@www.giovannelli.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2 Nov, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > It's a couple of days that I receive this error when I try to compile the kernel > (cvsupped twice a day, last five minutes ago 981102 18:45 CET) > > .c ../../libkern/strcat.c ../../libkern/strcmp.c ../../libkern/strcpy.c > ../../libkern/strlen.c ../../libkern/strncmp.c ../../libkern/strncpy.c > ../../libkern/udivdi3.c ../../libkern/umoddi3.c swapkernel.c ioconf.c param.c > vnode_if.c config.c > ../../pci/brooktree848.c:361: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory > ../../pci/brooktree848.c:362: iicbus_if.h: No such file or directory > ../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:61: iicbb_if.h: No such file or directory > ../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:62: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > you need to add the smbus0 and iicbus0 devices, like so: controller smbus0 device smb0 at smbus? controller iicbus0 device ic0 at iicbus? device iic0 at iicbus? device iicsmb0 at iicbus? device iicbb0 at iicbus? i don't know if you need all of the devices, but they converted the bktr driver to use thew common iicbus code. enjoy -- Jason Garman http://garman.dyn.ml.org/ Student, University of Maryland garman@earthling.net And now... for the stupid-patent-of-the-week: Whois: JAG145 "...an attache case with destruct means for destroying the contents therein in response to a signal" -- patent no. US3643609, filed in 1969 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 2 17:05:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10873 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:05:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10857 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:05:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23359; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:35:03 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199811022107.NAA04481@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:35:02 +1030 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: (Steven Grady) Subject: Re: How can we switch to a higher-level audio interface? Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 02-Nov-98 Steven Grady wrote: > Sorry to reply to my own e-mail, but in thinking about things some more, > I had a couple additions to the list of approaches. So v0.2 version: Hmm.. I wonder if its possible to do something like the moused program, execept in reverse. What I mean is the /dev/{audio,dsp,...}0 become a special device which just feeds its input (ie audio from programs) to a userland demon (yeah, wow, no real time, but I don't think thats much of a problem), which does the mixing and plays the sound back to the 'real' audio device. This would have to have special hooks to cope with ioctl's etc. which I'm not sure is feasable.. Also new clients could use an audio library which talks directly to the sound demon. This would have the advantages of being both backwards compatible and removing the exclusivity of sound apps... Of course you could probably take an existing sound demon (NAS, esound, etc..) and add this functionality to it which would probably be easier :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 3 05:15:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA05679 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 05:15:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA05666 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 05:14:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27279 Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:13:11 GMT Message-ID: <363F0166.167E@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 13:13:10 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel O'Connor" CC: "(Steven Grady)" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How can we switch to a higher-level audio interface? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Daniel wrote > I wonder if its possible to do something like the moused program > execept in reverse. Well, the latest version of the OSS drivers support 'software mixing' You can play multiple audio streams at the same time and the driver mixes them together and sends the combined stream to the sound card. Bye Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 3 05:17:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA05907 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 05:17:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from midget.dons.net.au (daniel.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.137.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA05902 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 05:17:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from holly.dons.net.au (holly.dons.net.au [203.31.81.8]) by midget.dons.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA02745; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:46:34 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <363F0166.167E@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 23:46:53 +1030 (CST) From: "Daniel J. O'Connor" To: Roger Hardiman Subject: Re: How can we switch to a higher-level audio interface? Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, "(Steven Grady)" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 03-Nov-98 Roger Hardiman wrote: > > I wonder if its possible to do something like the moused program > > execept in reverse. > Well, the latest version of the OSS drivers support 'software mixing' > > You can play multiple audio streams at the same time and the driver > mixes them together and sends the combined stream to the sound card. > > Bye > Roger Yeah, true, but I don't like having that stuff in the kernel :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 3 06:19:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA13408 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:19:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailout01.btx.dtag.de (mailout01.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA13403 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:19:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from f.schlosser@t-online.de) Received: from fwd11.btx.dtag.de (fwd11.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.171]) by mailout01.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 0zagkM-0000q3-00; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:43:46 +0100 Received: from switek (09177508-0001(btxid)@[193.159.134.52]) by fwd11.btx.dtag.de with smtp id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:43:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000701be0730$20055e80$34869fc1@switek> Reply-To: "Switek in 98" To: Subject: bt878 datasheet Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:44:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE0738.80EF9320" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Sender: 09177508-0001@t-online.de From: f.schlosser@t-online.de (Switek in 98) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE0738.80EF9320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi ! can you tell me where i can find the bt878 datasheet ? best regards, switek switek16v@hotmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE0738.80EF9320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE0738.80EF9320-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 3 06:23:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA13821 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:23:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oskar.nanoteq.co.za (oskar.nanoteq.co.za [196.37.91.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA13771 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:23:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jk@nanoteq.co.za) Received: from nanoteq.co.za (ockle.nanoteq.co.za [196.37.91.54]) by oskar.nanoteq.co.za (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA22551 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:23:01 +0200 (SAT) Message-ID: <363F2E40.8C8EEF6D@nanoteq.co.za> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 16:24:32 +0000 From: Johan Kruger Organization: Nanoteq X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: TV Card Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, my name is Johan Kruger and i have been trying to get my TV card to work for nearly 6 months now without avail. I get it to start up BUT i cannot change the frequency. I have tried to specify the frequency on the command line as well as in the Fxtv rc file, but it stays on 0. If i choose a frequency that is specified as 99(f500.0) in the rc file Fxtv for example, and i choose 99, it gives me 0.00 instead of 500.00. I can't seem to change any frequency, unless they start broadcasting on f0.00 i won't be able to recieve anything and i think that it's highly unlikely that SABC ( South Africa ) will start doing that ;-) . So, that is why i only see (snow - color'd snow that is ). I Dindoes it works fine, do you perhaps have a solution for me in FreeBSD pleassseeee. We use PAL I in south Africa, ( that selects fine in BSD ) Thanx for listening... :-) Johan Kruger Developement Engineer B.Ing Electronic Engineering Nanoteq South Africa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 3 11:43:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28153 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:43:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wrath.cs.utah.edu (wrath.cs.utah.edu [155.99.198.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28146 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:43:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danderse@cs.utah.edu) Received: from lal.cs.utah.edu (lal.cs.utah.edu [155.99.192.110]) by wrath.cs.utah.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06859; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:42:38 -0700 (MST) From: David G Andersen Received: (from danderse@localhost) by lal.cs.utah.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02806; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:42:51 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199811031942.MAA02806@lal.cs.utah.edu> Subject: CS 4235 (AOpen 3D Sound card) support To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:42:51 -0700 (MST) Cc: delaroca@ucla.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm curious about the status of support for the CS4235 (as found in the AOpen 3D Sound Card, a fairly generic MSS sound card). In testing them under 3.0, I've found that audio playback works like a charm, but we're encountering some problems with audio recording from /dev/audio. Recording from /dev/dsp works perfectly. We're testing it using the 'vat' from the ports collection; the ever-so-symptom is that it plain won't record. :) The hardware is set up properly (as tested by recording from /dev/dsp). The soundcard is found as: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CSCd925 [0x25d9630e] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000] mss_attach 1 at 0x530 irq 5 dma 1:0 flags 0x10 pcm1 (CS423x/Yamaha sn 0xffffffff) at 0x530-0x537 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x10 on isa Any thoughts? (please CC: replies to me; I'm not on -multimedia). There's a bit of an ongoing discussion about this in -multimedia; see: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=14567+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/1998/freebsd-multimedia/19981025.freebsd-multimedia for more information about the CS423x. -Dave -- work: danderse@cs.utah.edu me: angio@pobox.com University of Utah http://www.angio.net/ Department of Computer Science To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 3 12:11:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02493 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:11:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell3.ba.best.com (shell3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02486 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:11:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from schrade@schrade.com) Received: from localhost (schrade@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell3.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.sh) with ESMTP id MAA25867 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:10:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:10:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Krebs To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Where's that native GLIDE driver? Finish it and we might get Sin! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was just talking with an ex-coworker of mine who now works for Ritual. Ritual is the company who is making Sin. They of course are planning on making a Linux version of Sin just like there is a Linux version of Quake 2. He says that Ritual would like to support as many platforms as possible. No guarantees, of course. Once it's ported to Linux, it'd probably be very trivial to port it to FreeBSD 3.0. We'd just need whoever was working on the GLIDE driver for FreeBSD to resurface again and complete their work. If we could get the minigl ported to FreeBSD it would be a great speed boost too. Any OpenGL hardware acceleration under FreeBSD would indeed help Sin getting a better chance of being ported. Also, he says that they've gotten thousands of requests for a Linux version but very little for FreeBSD. Let your voices be heard! IRC: Schrade E-Mail: schrade@schrade.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 3 12:17:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03468 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:17:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA03459 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:17:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id TAA16816; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:15:01 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199811031815.TAA16816@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: CS 4235 (AOpen 3D Sound card) support To: danderse@cs.utah.edu (David G Andersen) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:15:01 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, delaroca@ucla.edu In-Reply-To: <199811031942.MAA02806@lal.cs.utah.edu> from "David G Andersen" at Nov 3, 98 12:42:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm curious about the status of support for the CS4235 (as found in the > AOpen 3D Sound Card, a fairly generic MSS sound card). In testing them > under 3.0, I've found that audio playback works like a charm, but we're not having one i cannot test it -- i have a 4236 and a 4237 and both work for me with vat (the one in -stable or 2.2.7 -- i am not sure if the vat port for 3.0 has the right patches). > encountering some problems with audio recording from /dev/audio. > Recording from /dev/dsp works perfectly. also strange, since the only difference is in setting the data format. can you try the following cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp1 cat /dev/dspW1 > /dev/dspW1 cat /dev/audio1 > /dev/audio1 and see which one works. Actually I found some chipsets (e.g. opti931) where there is apparently a bug (either in the chip or in the driver, but i suspect the former) and you cannot select a compressed mode (ULAW) on both play&rec; because the MSS driver defaults to use the same mode for play&rec even if you use half duples, this might cause problems. However the 4236 and 4237 work perfectly fine. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 3 13:18:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11718 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:18:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wrath.cs.utah.edu (wrath.cs.utah.edu [155.99.198.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11712 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:18:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danderse@cs.utah.edu) Received: from lal.cs.utah.edu (lal.cs.utah.edu [155.99.192.110]) by wrath.cs.utah.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11753; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:18:04 -0700 (MST) From: David G Andersen Received: (from danderse@localhost) by lal.cs.utah.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05565; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:18:17 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199811032118.OAA05565@lal.cs.utah.edu> Subject: Re: CS 4235 (AOpen 3D Sound card) support To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:18:17 -0700 (MST) Cc: danderse@cs.utah.edu, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, delaroca@ucla.edu In-Reply-To: <199811031815.TAA16816@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from "Luigi Rizzo" at Nov 3, 98 07:15:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Lo and behold, Luigi Rizzo once said: > > > encountering some problems with audio recording from /dev/audio. > > Recording from /dev/dsp works perfectly. > > also strange, since the only difference is in setting the data format. > > can you try the following > > cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp1 > cat /dev/dspW1 > /dev/dspW1 > cat /dev/audio1 > /dev/audio1 > > and see which one works. All of the above work like a charm. > Actually I found some chipsets (e.g. opti931) where there is apparently > a bug (either in the chip or in the driver, but i suspect the former) > and you cannot select a compressed mode (ULAW) on both play&rec; > because the MSS driver defaults to use the same mode for play&rec even > if you use half duples, this might cause problems. > However the 4236 and 4237 work perfectly fine. I tried with vat to use both full and half duplex to no avail. Also tried recording locally with nas's audemo, with no happy results. I haven't tried ioctl'ing it into ulaw and catting it; does that seem like the logical next thing to try? -Dave -- work: danderse@cs.utah.edu me: angio@pobox.com University of Utah http://www.angio.net/ Department of Computer Science To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 3 13:41:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15259 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:41:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA15232 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:41:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id UAA16969; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:39:00 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199811031939.UAA16969@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: CS 4235 (AOpen 3D Sound card) support To: danderse@cs.utah.edu (David G Andersen) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:39:00 +0100 (MET) Cc: danderse@cs.utah.edu, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, delaroca@ucla.edu In-Reply-To: <199811032118.OAA05565@lal.cs.utah.edu> from "David G Andersen" at Nov 3, 98 02:17:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Lo and behold, Luigi Rizzo once said: > > > > > encountering some problems with audio recording from /dev/audio. > > > Recording from /dev/dsp works perfectly. > > > > also strange, since the only difference is in setting the data format. > > > > can you try the following > > > > cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp1 > > cat /dev/dspW1 > /dev/dspW1 > > cat /dev/audio1 > /dev/audio1 > > > > and see which one works. > > All of the above work like a charm. thats the worst case for the driver -- you are using it in full duplex and with all modes. there must be something going wrong with your apps perhaps ? > I tried with vat to use both full and half duplex to no avail. Also > tried recording locally with nas's audemo, with no happy results. I nas is not well tested. > haven't tried ioctl'ing it into ulaw and catting it; does that seem like > the logical next thing to try? yes, but it is easier to make mistakes doing ioctl()s... try use the "pcmio" program (from the snd98xxxx.tgz distribution on my web pages) cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 3 23:32:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08607 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:32:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from online.no (pilt-s.online.no [193.212.1.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08601 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:32:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from buskbruk@online.no) Received: from online.no (ti11a03-0022.dialup.online.no [130.67.88.214]) by online.no (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA17963 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:32:31 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3640135E.49818EB0@online.no> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:42:06 +0100 From: "Håvard Søgaard" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [sv] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bt848 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! I have bouth a card and camera for internet use. This is bt848 v.1.0 and we get following message when we start the software; "Bt848: No suitable DirectDraw provider-Overlay channel is disabled" Then i get picture from the camera, but it has many vertical and horisontal stripes. What is wrong, and can i please get a better version of bt848. Greeting Håvard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 4 05:00:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18497 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:00:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bfc.dk ([194.192.110.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA18492 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:00:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from npe@bfc.dk) From: npe@bfc.dk Received: by bfc.dk(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 412566B2.004714B7 ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:56:23 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: BFC-DATA@BFC To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <412566B2.004BAD1B.00@bfc.dk> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:49:33 +0100 Subject: Support for ESS1688 ?? (Thinkpad 760!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a Ess 1688 soundcard in my Ibm ThinkPad. But i'm unable to make the sound work.. When I try to play something the program simply hangs.. Sometimes I hear 0.5 sec. of noise first! Somebody who have an idea ? Bye, Nicolai Petri WM-Data BFC - Denmark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 4 06:18:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA29458 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 06:18:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from titanium.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp (titanium.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp [131.113.47.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA29415 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 06:18:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sanpei@sanpei.org) Received: from lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (lavender.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp [131.113.47.22]) by titanium.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta13/3.7W) with ESMTP id XAA14994; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:17:51 +0900 (JST) Received: (from sanpei@localhost) by lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.8.8/3.6W) id XAA03416; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:17:50 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199811041417.XAA03416@lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: npe@bfc.dk Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for ESS1688 ?? (Thinkpad 760!) X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 23:17:50 +0900 From: MIHIRA Sanpei Yoshiro Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I have a Ess 1688 soundcard in my Ibm ThinkPad. But i'm unable to make the >sound work.. When I try to play something the program simply hangs.. >Sometimes I hear 0.5 sec. of noise first! >Somebody who have an idea ? Do you use pcm0 or sb0 driver? And do you use over spec mode like 44kHz/16bit? I have ESS 1868 with pcm0, currently pcm0 is supported only SBPro emulation mode, up to 22kHz/8bit, I think. Please test that mode. Thank you Yoshiro MIHIRA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 4 06:20:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA00191 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 06:20:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de (gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de [194.233.237.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA00186 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 06:20:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cracauer@gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de (8.8.8/8.7.3) id PAA25561; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:20:21 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19981104152021.A25530@cons.org> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:20:21 +0100 From: Martin Cracauer To: Ken Krebs , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where's that native GLIDE driver? Finish it and we might get Sin! References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Ken Krebs on Tue, Nov 03, 1998 at 12:10:23PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In , Ken Krebs wrote: > > I was just talking with an ex-coworker of mine who now works for Ritual. > Ritual is the company who is making Sin. They of course are planning on > making a Linux version of Sin just like there is a Linux version of Quake > 2. He says that Ritual would like to support as many platforms as > possible. No guarantees, of course. Great news :-) > Once it's ported to Linux, it'd probably be very trivial to port it to > FreeBSD 3.0. We'd just need whoever was working on the GLIDE driver for > FreeBSD to resurface again and complete their work. If we could get the > minigl ported to FreeBSD it would be a great speed boost too. Any OpenGL > hardware acceleration under FreeBSD would indeed help Sin getting a better > chance of being ported. [I hope I'm not telling things you already know] FreeBSD emulates Linux well enough to support Quake 2 in 3dfx and x11 mode (no soft console support). To do this, you need a rescent version of -stable or -current. For 3dfx support, install ports/emulators/linux-glide and possible ports/emulators/linux-mesa This installs Linux shared libs of the needed libraries. For now, that's the only way to have 3dfx support in FreeBSD. A FreeBSD binary will *not* be able to use glide, only Linux binaries in emulation mode, so your request makes no sense, as sad as it may be. > Also, he says that they've gotten thousands of requests for a Linux > version but very little for FreeBSD. Let your voices be heard! Well, that's normal. I even argue that calling vendors who have Windows version only to provide Linux *and* FreeBSD versions will further lower the possibilty of having anything happen. Maybe FreeBSD folks are better off asking or a Linux version as well. If a vendor is FreeBSD-friendly, I would ask him to have a FreeBSD test box handy during development. That way, he can ensure that none of the obscure Linux interfaces are used and that it runs on FreeBSD. This also lowers the possibilty that the binaries stop working on future Linux versions. The FreeBSD development team is very responsive when asked for extensions to the Linux emulator or to the Linux libraries we ship with FreeBSD, just in case a feature is needed that isn't emulated well enough. There is other software where a native FreeBSD binary is more important, especially everything that provides libraries to be linked against user programs or programs that use dynamic loading of object files. So far, none of this appies to games and even Quake 3 will move back to interpreter-based extensions instead of linking in object files. Currently, as I said, there is no choice anyway, since a native FreeBSD bainry will not be able to use glide. But, what did happens to the efforts to have a native glide driver, anyway? Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer BSD User Group Hamburg, Germany http://www.bsdhh.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 4 06:52:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06149 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 06:52:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oitunix.oit.umass.edu (nscs46p13.remote.umass.edu [128.119.180.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA06143 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 06:52:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gp@oitunix.oit.umass.edu) Received: (from gp@localhost) by oitunix.oit.umass.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA00462 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:52:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gp) Message-ID: <19981104095238.A228@oit.umass.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:52:38 -0500 From: Greg Pavelcak To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Recent kernel and broken WinTV Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I rebuilt elf world and kernel with sources from about Mon. Nov. 2, 8pm eastern time. Since then, fxtv doesn't work, I just get snow and noise. Here's dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Nov 4 09:26:10 EST 1998 gp@tarski.oit.umass.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/TARSKI Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Cyrix 6x86 (486-class CPU) Origin = "CyrixInstead" DIR=0x2231 Stepping=2 Revision=2 real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) FreeBSD Kernel Configuration Utility - Version 1.1 Type "help" for help. config> intro avail memory = 62423040 (60960K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf02ac000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x01 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.1.0 ide_pci0: rev 0xc1 int a irq 14 on pci0.1.1 vga0: rev 0x00 on pci0.11.0 bktr0: rev 0x02 int a irq 11 on pci0.13.0 bti2c0: iicbb0: on bti2c0 iicbus0: on iicbb0 addr 0xf0 Probing for devices on iicbus0: iicsmb0: on iicbus0 smbus0: on iicsmb0 smbus1: on bti2c0 Intel Smart Video III/VideoLogic Captivator PCI, tuner. Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c3 [0xc3008c0e] Serial 0x1816328a Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041] Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A ppc: parallel port found at 0x378 ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: W83877F chipset (EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode nlpt0: on ppbus 0 nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 lppps0: on ppbus 0 vpo0: on ppbus 0 vpo0: EPP 1.9 mode plip0: on ppbus 0 wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0x80ff on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 3090MB (6328665 sectors), 6697 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordy wcd0: 2062KB/sec, 120KB cache, audio play, 255 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: no disc inside, unlocked wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0x80ff on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd1): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd1: 2014MB (4124736 sectors), 4092 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa snd0: sbxvi0 at ? drq 5 on isa snd0: sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa snd0: awe0 at 0x620 on isa AWE32: not detected opl0 at 0x388 on isa snd0: npx0 flags 0x7 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle da0 at vpo0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI2 device da0: 96MB (196608 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 96C) changing root device to wd0s1a ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates My card is a Hauppauge WinTV with an 878 chip, but dmesg reports the "Intel" line even when I use "options OVERRIDE_CARD=??" and "options OVERRIDE_TUNER=??" (I'm using the question marks because I don't remember the numbers now, but I used the numbers from brooktree848.c. for CARD_HAUPPAUGE and PHILIPS_FR...something.) The Intel information also stuck when I tried #define OVERRIDE_CARD CARD_HAUPPAUGE in brooktree848.c. I assume it's because (though no C-programmer I) the function locate_tuner_address( bktr ) after "checkTuner" at line 4581 doesn't find anything so the values for the card get set back to Intel--no tuner. Got no relief from messing with sysctl -w hw.bt848.* either. Anyway, here's the output of fxtv -debug startup Fxtv v0.47 DETECTED CAPTURE CARD(S) [DRIVER PROBES]: bktr0: rev 0x02 int a irq 11 on pci0.13.0 bti2c0: SYSCTL MIB VALUES: kern.version: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Nov 4 09:26:10 EST 1998 gp@tarski.oit.umass.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/TARSKI hw.bt848.card: -1 hw.bt848.tuner: -1 hw.bt848.reverse_mute: -1 hw.bt848.format: -1 TUNER SIGNATURE (0x01 - 0xff): 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 TUNER I2C DEVICES FOUND AT: CAPTURE CARD EEPROM CONTENTS: Read 0 EEPROM bytes Supported RGB Capture Pixel Formats: bpp Bpp RGB Masks Swap --- --- ---------------------------- ---- 15 2 00007c00, 000003e0, 0000001f NB 16 2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f NB 24 3 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff B 24 4 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff NBWb Supported YUV Capture Pixel Formats: YUVSize HSamp VSamp Pack CompOrder T->B L->R YTrans ------- ----- ----- ------ --------- ---- ---- ------ 8,8,8 1,2,2 1,1,1 PLANAR YUV Y Y N 8,8,8 1,2,2 1,1,1 PACKED YUYV Y Y N 8,8,8 1,2,2 1,2,2 PLANAR YUV Y Y N XSERVER: 'The XFree86 Project, Inc' v3320, Protocol Verson 11.0 Screen Res = 1024x768, DefDepth = 16; NumScreens = 1 Bitmap Unit/BitOrder/Pad = 32/LSBFirst/32, Image ByteOrder = LSBFirst XF86DGAQueryVersion() succeeded - vers = 1.00 BaseAddr = 0xe0000000, Pitch = 1024, BankSize/RamSize = 4194304/4194304 Rating Available Visuals: Rating Class bpp Bpp R,G,B Masks Swap DirectVid ------ ----------- --- --- ---------------------------- ---- --------- 5 TrueColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- Yes Default Visual is 16-bpp TrueColor XF86VidModeQueryVersion() succeeded - version = 0.08 I also see this when I start fxtv from an xterm: ioctl(BT848_SAUDIO, 129) failed: Input/output error Any help would be greatly appreciated. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 4 09:42:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00384 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:42:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00372 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:42:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA28710 Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:41:42 GMT Message-ID: <364091D6.7DE1@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:41:42 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Pavelcak CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recent kernel and broken WinTV References: <19981104095238.A228@oit.umass.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg, your analysis of the tuner detection code was correct. It appears the new i2c code used has broken the tuner detection on the bt848 driver. Although I have worked all all the recent bt848 driver fixes, I had nothing to do with the i2c bus changes so I cannot help. I do not run the latest kernel either :-( > Intel Smart Video III/VideoLogic Captivator PCI, tuner. As it says, no tuner. Looks like the iicbus code is not passing the right results back to the bt848 driver. You should have got some progress from setting sysctl -w hw.bt848.card = 2 sysctl -w hw.bt848.tuner = yyy where yyy is all values from 1 to 11 Alternativly, go back to the old bt848 driver (rev 1.56 I think) for /sys/pci/brooktree848.c Then re-build. Hopefully, some of the i2c bus guys can help. Roger -- Roger Hardiman | Telepresence Research Group roger@cs.strath.ac.uk | DMEM, University of Strathclyde tel: 0141 548 2897 | Glasgow, Scotland, G1 1XJ, UK fax: 0141 552 0557 | http://telepresence.dmem.strath.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 4 14:11:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15778 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:11:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from reliam.teaser.fr (reliam.teaser.fr [194.51.80.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15666; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:10:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from son@teaser.fr) Received: from teaser.fr (ppp1087-ft.teaser.fr [194.206.156.40]) by reliam.teaser.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA04822; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:07:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (from son@localhost) by teaser.fr (8.9.1/8.8.5) id XAA00938; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:36:20 GMT Message-ID: <19981104233620.20933@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:36:20 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: garman@earthling.net Cc: gmarco@giovannelli.it, current@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 broken ? References: <199811021744.SAA00799@www.giovannelli.it> <199811030027.QAA05770@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <199811030027.QAA05770@hub.freebsd.org>; from garman@earthling.net on Mon, Nov 02, 1998 at 07:28:01PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-BETA FreeBSD 3.0-BETA Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 02, 1998 at 07:28:01PM -0500, garman@earthling.net wrote: Thanks Jason. I forgot to update LINT when commiting bktr changes. done. > >On 2 Nov, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: >> It's a couple of days that I receive this error when I try to compile the kernel >> (cvsupped twice a day, last five minutes ago 981102 18:45 CET) >> >> .c ../../libkern/strcat.c ../../libkern/strcmp.c ../../libkern/strcpy.c >> ../../libkern/strlen.c ../../libkern/strncmp.c ../../libkern/strncpy.c >> ../../libkern/udivdi3.c ../../libkern/umoddi3.c swapkernel.c ioconf.c param.c >> vnode_if.c config.c >> ../../pci/brooktree848.c:361: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory >> ../../pci/brooktree848.c:362: iicbus_if.h: No such file or directory >> ../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:61: iicbb_if.h: No such file or directory >> ../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:62: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory >> mkdep: compile failed >> *** Error code 1 >> >you need to add the smbus0 and iicbus0 devices, like so: > >controller smbus0 >device smb0 at smbus? > >controller iicbus0 >device ic0 at iicbus? >device iic0 at iicbus? >device iicsmb0 at iicbus? >device iicbb0 at iicbus? This last declaration should be rather 'controller iicbb0' > >i don't know if you need all of the devices, but they converted the >bktr driver to use thew common iicbus code. Actually, "only" iicbus, smbus, iicbb are mandatory. -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 4 18:05:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24879 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:05:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oitunix.oit.umass.edu (nscs58p17.remote.umass.edu [128.119.181.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24871 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:05:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gp@oitunix.oit.umass.edu) Received: (from gp@localhost) by oitunix.oit.umass.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA00398; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:04:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gp) Message-ID: <19981104210437.A233@oit.umass.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:04:37 -0500 From: Greg Pavelcak To: Roger Hardiman Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recent kernel and broken WinTV References: <19981104095238.A228@oit.umass.edu> <364091D6.7DE1@cs.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <364091D6.7DE1@cs.strath.ac.uk>; from Roger Hardiman on Wed, Nov 04, 1998 at 05:41:42PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 04, 1998 at 05:41:42PM +0000, Roger Hardiman wrote: > Greg, > (...) > > > Intel Smart Video III/VideoLogic Captivator PCI, tuner. > As it says, no tuner. > > Looks like the iicbus code is not passing the right results back > to the bt848 driver. > > > You should have got some progress from setting > sysctl -w hw.bt848.card = 2 > sysctl -w hw.bt848.tuner = yyy > > where yyy is all values from 1 to 11 Nope. I tried it again, but it doesn't help. > > Alternativly, go back to the old bt848 driver (rev 1.56 I think) for > /sys/pci/brooktree848.c > Then re-build. I started to worry about the hardware when sysctl didn't help. I just dug out a previously built aout kernel, and it works, so my card is OK. Anyway, thanks alot for the quick reply. For now, I'll just boot the old kernel when I want TV and keep an eye out on the lists for further developments. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 5 10:46:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12595 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:46:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bigpuppy.newell.arlington.va.us (mcn-gw.sb.nova.org [209.31.146.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12590 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:46:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mnewell@newell.arlington.va.us) Received: from localhost (mnewell@localhost) by bigpuppy.newell.arlington.va.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA04926 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:46:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:46:03 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Newell To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Getting VAT To work on Libretto Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to get VAT to work on a Libretto. I did the standard list scan thing and saw that there were lots of other messages with the same sort of problem, but the searcher didn't find any response messages. :-( Hope this isn't a faq, but... I installed a clean FreeBSD 2.2.7 install (I tried to install 3.0 but the installation would not work and I ran out of debug time). I then installed Luigi's snd kit "snd980607.tgz" and built the kernel. After doing the MAKEDEV and rebooting and twiddling some stuff (I had to do the PnP approach; configuring the pcm0 device "normally" didn't work) I'm now able to cat .au files to /dev/audio and all works just fine. Unfortunately vat doesnt' work. The vi meters don't move and I get no audio. If I try generating local test tones from within vat I still get nothing. The only indicator I get is the message "How strange... mss_intr with no reason!" when I start vat. There's a list message from Mark Ganzer back in April on this subject, but no response that I can find. Can anyone tell me what I'm doin' wrong? Is there a page out there that describes how to get it working (if not, I'm willin' to type... :-) Much obliged, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein | | Affiliation: | are mine. You can take them or | | Address: | leave them. Flames to /dev/null. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Mike@Newell.arlington.va.us | http://www.newell.arlington.va.us | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | "Peace. It's wonderful!" Father Divine. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 5 11:47:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20979 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:47:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from scotty.masternet.it (scotty.masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20969 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:47:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Received: from suzy (modem37.masternet.it [194.184.65.47]) by scotty.masternet.it (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00966 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:47:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Message-Id: <199811051947.UAA00966@scotty.masternet.it> From: "Gianmarco Giovannelli" To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:54:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: device bktr0 Reply-to: gmarco@giovannelli.it X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'd like to understand better which entries I have to put in my kernel to let my Miro PCTV works again ... The LINT is not too much clear about ... Thanks for attention... Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli (http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco) "Unix expert since yesterday" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 5 13:52:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07437 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:52:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA07429 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:52:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id UAA21634; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:51:07 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199811051951.UAA21634@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Getting VAT To work on Libretto To: mnewell@newell.arlington.va.us (Mike Newell) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:51:07 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Mike Newell" at Nov 5, 98 01:45:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm trying to get VAT to work on a Libretto. I did the standard list scan you don't say which libretto... i have things worling on a -50 which uses a Yamaha codec set in non-PnP mode; the bios in my case programs the codec to use only one DMA channel so i had to override the configuration to use two (non-pnp -- this is done by using the "flags" field in the config). Your case could be different as you mention the need for PnP... luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 5 15:06:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15566 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:06:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bigpuppy.newell.arlington.va.us (mcn-gw.sb.nova.org [209.31.146.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15560 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:06:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mnewell@newell.arlington.va.us) Received: from localhost (mnewell@localhost) by bigpuppy.newell.arlington.va.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA06041; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:06:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:06:05 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Newell To: Luigi Rizzo cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Getting VAT To work on Libretto In-Reply-To: <199811051951.UAA21634@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm using the -70. Works with normal audio files so I assume the drivers working OK. Is there any "shim-ware" needed to do vat? I remember something in the older drivers about needing a specific mixer program running; is that still the case? I'm running vat from the packages distribution. Thanks! Mike On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Luigi Rizzo wrote: luigi> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:51:07 +0100 (MET) luigi> From: Luigi Rizzo luigi> To: Mike Newell luigi> Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG luigi> Subject: Re: Getting VAT To work on Libretto luigi> luigi> > I'm trying to get VAT to work on a Libretto. I did the standard list scan luigi> luigi> you don't say which libretto... i have things worling on a -50 which luigi> uses a Yamaha codec set in non-PnP mode; the bios in my case programs luigi> the codec to use only one DMA channel so i had to override the luigi> configuration to use two (non-pnp -- this is done by using the "flags" luigi> field in the config). luigi> luigi> Your case could be different as you mention the need for PnP... luigi> luigi> luigi luigi> Much obliged, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein | | Affiliation: | are mine. You can take them or | | Address: | leave them. Flames to /dev/null. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Mike@Newell.arlington.va.us | http://www.newell.arlington.va.us | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | "Peace. It's wonderful!" Father Divine. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 5 22:23:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22299 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:23:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA22293 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:23:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id FAA22326; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 05:22:13 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199811060422.FAA22326@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Getting VAT To work on Libretto To: mnewell@newell.arlington.va.us (Mike Newell) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 05:22:13 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Mike Newell" at Nov 5, 98 06:05:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm using the -70. Works with normal audio files so I assume the drivers > working OK. Is there any "shim-ware" needed to do vat? I remember well you need the latest fixes to "vat" which are in -stable almost for sure, but i don't know if they are in 2.2.7 -- in any case, generally you have these problems when the codec is not using the secondary DMA channel. The pcm driver in -stable has fixes specific for the Yamaha codec which should be on the libretto. Please try that (and the -stable version of vat) and send me the dmesg output if things do not work. luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 6 18:10:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09036 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:10:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from k6n1.znh.org (dialup5.gaffaneys.com [208.155.161.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08951 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:09:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zach@gaffaneys.com) Received: (from zach@localhost) by k6n1.znh.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA04188 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 02:10:11 GMT (envelope-from zach) Message-ID: <19981106201011.B2065@znh.org> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:10:11 -0600 From: Zach Heilig To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Turtle Beach Fiji supported? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't see anything in /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/snd/CARDS (or any other file in that directory) that says anything about Turtle Beach. This looks like a rather nice (isa) card [even if it lists at US$350-$400]. The card has what the "docs" call a 'Turtle Beach 56K DSP Hurricane Architecture" type sound chip (no mention of part numbers). possible programming information: http://www.rpi.edu/~veliaa/pinlinux.html ftp://ftp.voyetra.com/pub/tbs/pinn/pnddk100.zip http://www.voyetra-turtle-beach.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.cgi/highband.htm?E+aa0010091 -- Zach Heilig If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have to at least consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family Anatidæ on our hands (Douglas Adams -- Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 7 00:42:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA09728 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 00:42:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09722 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 00:42:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12131; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 00:42:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 00:42:27 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Zach Heilig cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Turtle Beach Fiji supported? In-Reply-To: <19981106201011.B2065@znh.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Zach Heilig wrote: > I don't see anything in /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/snd/CARDS (or any other > file in that directory) that says anything about Turtle Beach. This > looks like a rather nice (isa) card [even if it lists at US$350-$400]. > > The card has what the "docs" call a 'Turtle Beach 56K DSP Hurricane > Architecture" type sound chip (no mention of part numbers). This smells like a MWave. > possible programming information: > > http://www.rpi.edu/~veliaa/pinlinux.html > ftp://ftp.voyetra.com/pub/tbs/pinn/pnddk100.zip > http://www.voyetra-turtle-beach.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.cgi/highband.htm?E+aa0010091 If they have the specs, someone will program it ... Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 7 01:16:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA12116 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 01:16:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from k6n1.znh.org (dialup5.gaffaneys.com [208.155.161.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA12111 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 01:16:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zach@gaffaneys.com) Received: (from zach@localhost) by k6n1.znh.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA16247; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 09:17:58 GMT (envelope-from zach) Message-ID: <19981107031758.B15950@znh.org> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 03:17:58 -0600 From: Zach Heilig To: Doug White , Zach Heilig Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Turtle Beach Fiji supported? References: <19981106201011.B2065@znh.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Doug White on Sat, Nov 07, 1998 at 12:42:27AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 07, 1998 at 12:42:27AM -0800, Doug White wrote: > > The card has what the "docs" call a 'Turtle Beach 56K DSP Hurricane > > Architecture" type sound chip (no mention of part numbers). > This smells like a MWave. Specifically (with further reading), it uses the Motorola 56002 DSP. Given specs like: 20 bit D/A & 20 bit A/D, > 97dB SNR, a +/- 1dB bandwidth of 10Hz to 22KHz, and full-duplex sound, it doesn't really resemble an MWave... > If they have the specs, someone will program it ... Well, they at least acknowledge that Linux exists (and have pointers to preliminary linux drivers from the turtle beach website, which I picked up... any pointers on converting a Linux driver to a FreeBSD one?). They also supply the firmware (it seems to be 'soft' firmware.. needing to be loaded at poweron). -- Zach Heilig If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have to at least consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family Anatidæ on our hands (Douglas Adams -- Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message