From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 21 3:44:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au (bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au [130.102.41.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC748117A6 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 03:44:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au) Received: from bettymae.lani.net.au (nas2ip146.ipswich.gil.com.au [202.47.33.146]) by bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA13824 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:46:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au) Message-Id: <4.1.19990206063546.00931d50@130.102.41.66> X-Sender: talbotn@130.102.41.88 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 06:39:41 +1000 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: Talbot NEIL Subject: Re: 3.1/4.0, the alpha, and a dog named blue... In-Reply-To: References: <19990220113401.A7335@delsol.sunfire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I have been trying to set up a Alphastation AS200 4/233 for the past 3 months and was wondering if anyone has had any luck with it. If so could you please email me with the details. I have FreeBSD Release 3.0 on cd Direct from Walnut creek. i have tried making the boot disks and everything. I am at a loss. If anyone has any ideas please let me know. Talbot NEIL At 11:46 20/02/99 -0500, you wrote: >> I want to know how stable is FreeBSD on the Alpha platform. I have an >> AlphaStation 200 which I want to place FreeBSD on and get RID of RedHat >> Linux. I'm not a linux fan and love the FreeBSD platform. > >Adam, > >I've not personally had experience with the AlphaStation 200, so I've >copied the list on your question. I've got access to Multia's and a >Personal Workstation 533au. YMMV, but aside from getting used to tracking >down 'converting pointer to integer of differing size' compiler warnings, >I've not noticed any real show stoppers in the last month. > >My machines exhibit almost all of the stability and functionality of the >x86 releases. I am currently running 4.0-19990206-SNAP on everything. My >ideal setup would be to track -current on the Multia's and -stable on the >533au, using it as an internal samba/nfs/cvs/web server. Things seem real >solid under testing, but I've been reluctant to put the 533au into >production. > >Hope this helps somewhat. > >- Bruce > >______________________ >Bruce M. Walter, Principal >NIXdesign Group Inc. > >426 S. Dawson Street >Raleigh NC 27601 USA >919.829.4901 Tel >919.829.4993 Fax >http://www.nixdesign.com > >Visual communications | concept + code > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 21 5:33:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from malkavian.org (malkavian.org [206.138.59.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C972210E0B for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 05:33:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: from localhost (rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA00971 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 06:33:42 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 06:33:42 -0700 (MST) From: "brian j. peterson" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.1/4.0, the alpha, and a dog named blue... In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990206063546.00931d50@130.102.41.66> Message-ID: X-Prime: (2 ^ 3021377) - 1 X-Prime-Candidate: (2 ^ 6833059) - 1 X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Talbot NEIL wrote: # I have been trying to set up a Alphastation AS200 4/233 for the past 3 # months and was wondering if anyone has had any luck with it. # # If so could you please email me with the details. i have an AS200 4/233 that i'd like to get running FreeBSD, so i'd appreciate it if any answers to his post were also sent to this mailing list. thanks. -rbw -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== rbw aka bjp | today has never happened and it doesn't frighten me. rbw@myplace.org | -bjork, alarm call, homogenic ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 21 7: 8:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from junior.lgc.com (junior.lgc.com [134.132.72.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0024711AC5 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 07:08:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: from oasis.zycor.lgc.com by junior.lgc.com (8.8.8/lgc.1.26) id JAA01086; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:08:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from maroon ([134.132.228.8]) by oasis.zycor.lgc.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA01899; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:08:31 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199902211508.JAA01899@oasis.zycor.lgc.com> X-Sender: king@mail.sstar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:08:32 -0600 To: Talbot NEIL , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jim King Subject: Re: 3.1/4.0, the alpha, and a dog named blue... In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990206063546.00931d50@130.102.41.66> References: <19990220113401.A7335@delsol.sunfire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:39 AM 2/6/99 +1000, Talbot NEIL wrote: >Hi all, > >I have been trying to set up a Alphastation AS200 4/233 for the past 3 >months and was wondering if anyone has had any luck with it. > >If so could you please email me with the details. > >I have FreeBSD Release 3.0 on cd Direct from Walnut creek. i have tried >making the boot disks and everything. > >I am at a loss. > >If anyone has any ideas please let me know. iirc, the boot disks from the 3.0-RELEASE didn't work for my (also using an AS200 4/233). The boot disks from the post-3.0-RELEASE snaps in late November or early December worked though. I'd suggest downloading some recent boot disks and using those to install your CD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 21 7:17:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from set.spradley.tmi.net (set.spradley.tmi.net [207.170.107.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF01112D8 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 07:17:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tsprad@set.spradley.tmi.net) Received: from set.spradley.tmi.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by set.spradley.tmi.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20365; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:17:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tsprad@set.spradley.tmi.net) Message-Id: <199902211517.JAA20365@set.spradley.tmi.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "brian j. peterson" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.1/4.0, the alpha, and a dog named blue... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Feb 1999 06:33:42 MST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:17:24 -0600 From: Ted Spradley Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Talbot NEIL wrote: > > # I have been trying to set up a Alphastation AS200 4/233 for the past 3 > # months and was wondering if anyone has had any luck with it. > # > # If so could you please email me with the details. > > i have an AS200 4/233 that i'd like to get running FreeBSD, so i'd > appreciate it if any answers to his post were also sent to this mailing > list. It took me a little fooling around, but the problems were all my own. Here's the quick synopsis of what worked: 1. I'm using a Diamond Stealth S3 Trio video board that I have used with the S3 Xserver in i386. The AS200 came with an 8 Mbyte TGA, but NetBSD didn't support that, and I don't think FreeBSD does, either (please correct me if I'm wrong, I'd love to be able to use it for X). In fact, I had no video card in it when I did the initial installation. I use a serial console. 2. I updated the flash code to "V6.9-4, built on Oct 12 1998 at 11:22:55". I don't know if this is necessary, but it works. 3. I used the latest 4.0 snapshot from mirrors.rcn.com. A quick look at the 3.0 cdrom didn't yield anything that looked like an Alpha installation to me, and I figured I may as well use the latest snapshot available. I installed from ftp, overnight. 4. I grabbed the kernel sources with the snapshot and configured my own kernel from that. 5. I checked out current sources (~ Feb 14) applied Doug Rabson's patches to the gcc compiler and ran 'make buildworld' and 'make installworld' and built another kernel. 6. I applied Rabson's patch to the XFree86 port and built that and a few other ports that I wanted. There was one source file somewhere that caused the compiler to abort unless compiled with no optimization at all, and some confusion on my part, but mostly It Just Worked. What doesn't work is xdm: xdm error (pid 36918): /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet.so: Undefined symbol "SessionPingFailed" while loading /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet.so I just haven't taken the time to run this down yet. If you need more details, just ask. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 21 8:57:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF0E11B98 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:57:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA55995; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:56:50 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:56:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Talbot NEIL Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3.1/4.0, the alpha, and a dog named blue... In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990206063546.00931d50@130.102.41.66> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Talbot NEIL wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been trying to set up a Alphastation AS200 4/233 for the past 3 > months and was wondering if anyone has had any luck with it. > > If so could you please email me with the details. > > I have FreeBSD Release 3.0 on cd Direct from Walnut creek. i have tried > making the boot disks and everything. > > I am at a loss. > > If anyone has any ideas please let me know. > > Talbot NEIL The 3.0 CD (and the 3.1 CD) I think only includes binaries and floppy images for the i386 architecture. Currently, you must download a snapshot from, say, ftp.cdrom.com or mirrors.rcn.com and install that. Make sure that you download an alpha snapshot. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 21 11:42:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC9C10E01 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:42:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA57234; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:42:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Doug Rabson Cc: Talbot NEIL , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.1/4.0, the alpha, and a dog named blue... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:56:50 GMT." Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:42:35 -0800 Message-ID: <57230.919626155@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The 3.0 CD (and the 3.1 CD) I think only includes binaries and floppy > images for the i386 architecture. Currently, you must download a snapshot Actually, I did hide an alpha distribution on the 3.0 CDs (just see the README.TXT files on each CD) though perhaps too well if people are having trouble finding it. There is also a 3.1-RELEASE for the alpha (which should be installable from the CDROM) on CD #2 of 3.1. Again, see the README.TXT files on every WC product for the most authoritative contents listing. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 21 13: 1:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B098110E87 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:01:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA56397; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:59:47 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:59:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Talbot NEIL , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.1/4.0, the alpha, and a dog named blue... In-Reply-To: <57230.919626155@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > The 3.0 CD (and the 3.1 CD) I think only includes binaries and floppy > > images for the i386 architecture. Currently, you must download a snapshot > > Actually, I did hide an alpha distribution on the 3.0 CDs (just see the README.TXT > files on each CD) though perhaps too well if people are having trouble finding > it. There is also a 3.1-RELEASE for the alpha (which should be installable > from the CDROM) on CD #2 of 3.1. Again, see the README.TXT files on every WC > product for the most authoritative contents listing. Excellent. I don't have my 3.1 CD set yet (snail mail takes a while to struggle from US to UK). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 21 14:17:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from brain.sma.uq.edu.au (brain.sma.uq.edu.au [130.102.41.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260D910FEB for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:17:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au) Received: from bettymae.lani.net.au (nas2ip146.ipswich.gil.com.au [202.47.33.146]) by brain.sma.uq.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA16051 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 07:56:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au) Message-Id: <4.1.19990206170838.00932180@130.102.41.66> X-Sender: talbotn@130.102.41.66 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 17:12:30 +1000 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: Talbot NEIL Subject: AS200 4/233 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org thank you all for your quick responses i have now found the alpha installation on cd #4 as the relnotes.txt file suggested. but now i am in quite a quandary. how the hell do i make a netbsd boot disk / or is the freebsd Boot disk for the alpha done yet. if so where is it ...... Thanks in advance Talbot NEIL To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 21 16:35:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from callisto.fortean.com (callisto.fortean.com [209.42.229.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0B3119EE for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:35:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from walter@fortean.com) Received: from localhost (walter@localhost) by callisto.fortean.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA17148; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:33:03 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: callisto.fortean.com: walter owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:33:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Bruce M. Walter" To: Talbot NEIL Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AS200 4/233 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990206170838.00932180@130.102.41.66> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > thank you all for your quick responses i have now found the alpha > installation on cd #4 as the relnotes.txt file suggested. Glad to see alpha made it onto the cd's ;) > but now i am in quite a quandary. how the hell do i make a netbsd boot disk > / or is the freebsd Boot disk for the alpha done yet. if so where is it ...... Well, again YMMV with the AS200, but I used the kern.flp and mfsroot.flp from the floppies/ directory of the alpha SNAP/RELEASE directory. Worked great for me. - Bruce ______________________ Bruce M. Walter, Principal NIXdesign Group Inc. 426 S. Dawson Street Raleigh NC 27601 USA 919.829.4901 Tel 919.829.4993 Fax http://www.nixdesign.com Visual communications | concept + code To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 21 22:50:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEA710FAB for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:50:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA47306; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 01:50:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Ted Spradley Cc: "brian j. peterson" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: 3.1/4.0, the alpha, and a dog named blue... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:17:24 CST." <199902211517.JAA20365@set.spradley.tmi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 01:50:00 -0500 Message-ID: <47302.919666200@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ted Spradley wrote in message ID <199902211517.JAA20365@set.spradley.tmi.net>: > What doesn't work is xdm: > > xdm error (pid 36918): /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet.so: Undefined symbo > l "SessionPingFailed" while loading /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet.so > > I just haven't taken the time to run this down yet. I found this one today myself. If you go to: /usr/ports/x11/XFree86/work/xc/programs/xdm look in Imakefile. You'll find near the top a large comment starting with ``We define ShareLibXdmGreet true if:'' Remove the ifdef after it, and just put: #undef SharedLibXdmGreet run xmkmf -a in that directory, and rebuild XDM. It should work now. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 22 0:40:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from master.telia.net (master.telia.net [194.237.170.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B103119C7 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 00:40:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joonas@w-arts.com) Received: from w-arts.com (host11-ncc.telia.net [62.20.126.11]) by master.telia.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01885 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:45:20 GMT Message-ID: <36D116EF.8015B15C@w-arts.com> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:35:59 +0100 From: Joonas Tizihssane Organization: w.arts X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: loader for the samsung 164UX boards Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org wondering what might be the estimated time for the release of this loader, cos i am an owner of one of these samsung UX motherboards and i can say that i ain't that fond in using linux on it, i got freebsd on a 486 and at work so to get freebsd to that machine would be great. thanx in advance /Joonas.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 22 1:47:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F2910E84 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 01:47:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05334; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:48:07 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990222204806.C4822@caamora.com.au> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:48:06 +1100 From: jonathan michaels To: Jim King , Talbot NEIL , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.1/4.0, the alpha, and a dog named blue... Mail-Followup-To: Jim King , Talbot NEIL , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: <4.1.19990206063546.00931d50@130.102.41.66> <199902211508.JAA01899@oasis.zycor.lgc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199902211508.JAA01899@oasis.zycor.lgc.com>; from Jim King on Sun, Feb 21, 1999 at 09:08:32AM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Feb 21, 1999 at 09:08:32AM -0600, Jim King wrote: > At 06:39 AM 2/6/99 +1000, Talbot NEIL wrote: > >Hi all, > > > >I have been trying to set up a Alphastation AS200 4/233 for the past 3 > >months and was wondering if anyone has had any luck with it. > > > >If so could you please email me with the details. > > > >I have FreeBSD Release 3.0 on cd Direct from Walnut creek. i have tried > >making the boot disks and everything. sorry, i cannot help, i'm in a similar sitiation, though different hardware. i currently have a multia, but have aspirations of building a real dec alpha server, grin. at teh moment i am looking at building a dec alpha machine based on these, dec alphapc 164sx (1m pb cache) + alpha 21164pc 533 mhz cpu, to this i plan to add 512 mb of full parity ecc dram and a matrox millenium2 with 16 mb dram i've seen several posts that talk about problems about alpha bios and srm things .. are any ot those things, problems an issue wih the mother board i plan to use. is anybody using one of those atx format dec alpha motherboards, are thier any older 'at' style form factor motherboards, availble, still available. i've given up waiting for teh merced and teh p3 is far to expensive fro what it is .. sorry this ast bit is my personal opinion. regards and with thanks in advance. cheers jonathan. -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 22 2:20:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C6910F39 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 02:19:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA57800; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:18:54 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:18:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Joonas Tizihssane Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: loader for the samsung 164UX boards In-Reply-To: <36D116EF.8015B15C@w-arts.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Joonas Tizihssane wrote: > wondering what might be the estimated time for the release of this > loader, cos i am an owner of one of these samsung UX motherboards and i > can say that i ain't that fond in using linux on it, i got freebsd on a > 486 and at work so to get freebsd to that machine would be great. > thanx in advance Progress on this board has stalled waiting for information from Digital and Samsung. The firmware on the board (written by DeskStation apparently) is gratuitously different from DEC's AlphaBIOS firmware and we are not sure of the differences as yet. Even linux requires a custom version of their loader for this board apparently. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 22 12:22:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.in.tu-clausthal.de (zaphod.in.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.100.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B8810FBB for ; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:22:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jc@joerch.org) Received: from eressea.in.tu-clausthal.de (36d1bc51647d5@eressea.in.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.100.9]) by zaphod.in.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA20151; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:21:37 +0100 (MET) From: Joerg Czeranski To: jonathan michaels , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:21:32 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <5swETj5pr$0W7$1@joerch.org> In-Reply-To: <19990222204806.C4822@caamora.com.au> Subject: SX with ECC? (was Re: 3.1/4.0, the alpha, ...) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org jonathan michaels wrote: > [...] > > i currently have a multia, but have aspirations of building a real dec alpha > server, grin. > > at teh moment i am looking at building a dec alpha machine based on these, dec > alphapc 164sx (1m pb cache) + alpha 21164pc 533 mhz cpu, to this i plan to add > 512 mb of full parity ecc dram and a matrox millenium2 with 16 mb dram > > i've seen several posts that talk about problems about alpha bios and srm > things .. are any ot those things, problems an issue wih the mother board i > plan to use. There's an SRM console available for the 164SX from DEC. (With the usual caveat that you might need a license unless you buy the board with the SRM console.) But: An SX board with full parity ECC dram? AFAIK the SX board and the 21164PC don't do ECC. They'll probably ignore the extra 8 bits per 64 bit word. I came to that conclusion after comparing the technical reference manuals (EC-R46WB-TE and EC-R57EB-TE). I consider buying an LX board for that reason, although it's quite a bit more expensive and only slightly faster. If I'm wrong I'd be glad to head about it. joerch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 22 13:23:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from set.spradley.tmi.net (set.spradley.tmi.net [207.170.107.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C74710ED5; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:23:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tsprad@set.spradley.tmi.net) Received: from set.spradley.tmi.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by set.spradley.tmi.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23232; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:23:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tsprad@set.spradley.tmi.net) Message-Id: <199902222123.PAA23232@set.spradley.tmi.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Gary Palmer" Cc: "brian j. peterson" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.1/4.0, the alpha, and a dog named blue... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Feb 1999 01:50:00 EST." <47302.919666200@gjp.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:23:36 -0600 From: Ted Spradley Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [...] > Remove the ifdef after it, and just put: > > #undef SharedLibXdmGreet > > run xmkmf -a in that directory, and rebuild XDM. It should work now. Thanks! That got it. > > Gary > -- > Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member > FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 23 0:39:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF55B12146 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:39:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id RAA19175; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:39:45 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <36D26919.946532@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:38:49 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Netscape and FreeBSD..]] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Would anyone be interested in taking up on this? -------- Original Message -------- From: Brian Ostrom Subject: Re: [Fwd: Netscape and FreeBSD..] To: dcs@newsguy.com (Daniel C. Sobral) CC: briano@netscape.com > From dcs@newsguy.com Mon Feb 22 04:07:57 1999 > > Regarding your message which was forwarded to the freebsd-advocacy > mailing list... would you mind refering to FreeBSD as FreeBSD/i386 > or FreeBSD/ia32? Also... would you consider building the > FreeBSD/alpha (FreeBSD/axp) version? > Your wish is granted. ;-) I made a quick change to the Tinderbox perl script shortly before I moved the FreeBSD build onto the official SeaMonkey page. I'd very much like to add a FreeBSD/alpha system to my collection, but unfortunately I don't have a spare AlphaStation. You are welcome to run a Tinderbox build on one of your own machines, however. All you'd need is a copy of my (very) hacked perl script, and approval from someone here (probably Daniel Nunes [leaf@netscape.com]). I for one would be very happy to get more non-Netscape machines hosting continuous UNIX builds! briano. -- UNIX Evangelist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 23 2: 8: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317B31114A for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 02:07:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA63768; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 02:07:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Netscape and FreeBSD..]] In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:38:49 +0900." <36D26919.946532@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 02:07:54 -0800 Message-ID: <63764.919764474@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Would you be willing to set it up and run it (at least until it's automated) on beast.cdrom.com? > Would anyone be interested in taking up on this? > > -------- Original Message -------- > From: Brian Ostrom > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Netscape and FreeBSD..] > To: dcs@newsguy.com (Daniel C. Sobral) > CC: briano@netscape.com > > > From dcs@newsguy.com Mon Feb 22 04:07:57 1999 > > > > Regarding your message which was forwarded to the freebsd-advocacy > > mailing list... would you mind refering to FreeBSD as FreeBSD/i386 > > or FreeBSD/ia32? Also... would you consider building the > > FreeBSD/alpha (FreeBSD/axp) version? > > > > Your wish is granted. ;-) I made a quick change to the Tinderbox > perl script shortly before I moved the FreeBSD build onto the > official SeaMonkey page. > > I'd very much like to add a FreeBSD/alpha system to my collection, > but unfortunately I don't have a spare AlphaStation. You are > welcome > to run a Tinderbox build on one of your own machines, however. All > you'd need is a copy of my (very) hacked perl script, and approval > from someone here (probably Daniel Nunes [leaf@netscape.com]). I > for one would be very happy to get more non-Netscape machines > hosting > continuous UNIX builds! > > briano. > -- > UNIX Evangelist > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 23 4: 0:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F17510E6A for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 04:00:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id VAA16913; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:00:19 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <36D28C0E.7784ED95@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:07:58 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Netscape and FreeBSD..]] References: <63764.919764474@zippy.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > Would you be willing to set it up and run it (at least until it's > automated) on beast.cdrom.com? I'd rather have someone with an alpha do it... I'd find it hard to believe no one in this list would like to do it, but, if that turns out to be the case, we'll talk again. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "To make it absolutely clear: you stand on the wrong end of my blasters, so you better get lost before I start target practice!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 23 4:39: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from calis.blacksun.org (Calis.blacksun.org [168.100.186.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EA911244 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 04:39:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from don@calis.blacksun.org) Received: from localhost (don@localhost) by calis.blacksun.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA54916 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:39:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from don@calis.blacksun.org) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:39:58 -0500 (EST) From: Don To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Installing FreeBSD Alpha Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have been trying to install FreeBSD alpha on an alpha I have but the installation keeps failing late in the game with the following error: Could not install /kernel If i jump to the vty it shows errors during the last 4 items installed which state: cp: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected chmod : 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected xargs : 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected tar : 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected In any case /kernel doesnt seem to want to go in. The machine is one of the infamous alpha station 200 4/233's from onsale with a different graphics card, 96 megs of ram and a 3 gig scsi hard disk. Any help would be appreciated. -Don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 23 6:29:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E26E10EDE for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 06:29:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khaled@mailbox.telia.net) Received: from mailbox.telia.net (khaled@mailbox.telia.net [194.237.170.234]) by maild.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05782 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:29:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (khaled@localhost) by mailbox.telia.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA23603 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:29:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:29:20 +0100 (CET) From: Khaled Daham To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Bootable CD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I ws just wondering if there is a special tweak to make a bootable CD for alpha. Ive done so for i386, and repeating that procedure didnt work on my alpha, SRM didnt think the CD had a valid bootblock.So has anyone tried ? the line I used was mkisofs -o /mnt2/fbsdaxp.iso -b floppies/boot.flp -c boot.catalog -r -T -p FreeBSD -P www.freebsd.org -A FreeBSD_3_1_Alpha -V FBSD31 [dir] /Khaled, Telia Network Services Mail: khaled@telia.net Cell: 070-6785492 Work: 08-4567281 :hacker: /n./ [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 23 8:10:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cara.sonn.com (cara.sonn.com [206.79.239.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D1B120FB for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:10:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from snoble@cara.sonn.com) Received: (from snoble@localhost) by cara.sonn.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) id IAA19592; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:09:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:09:05 -0800 From: Steve Noble To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Netscape and FreeBSD..]] Message-ID: <19990223080905.A9101@sonn.com> References: <36D26919.946532@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <36D26919.946532@newsguy.com>; from Daniel C. Sobral on Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 05:38:49PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What exactly do we need here? I'd love to have a functional copy of netscape for my FreeBSD/Alpha machine, and I'd be happy to donate resources as needed. On Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 05:38:49PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Would anyone be interested in taking up on this? > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Steven Noble / Network Janitor / Be free my soul and leave this world alone : : My views = My views != The views of any of my past or present employers : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 23 10:56: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu (PO6.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B0C115CE for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:56:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tcrimi+@andrew.cmu.edu) Received: (from postman@localhost) by po6.andrew.cmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.2) id NAA06966; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:56:00 -0500 (EST) Received: via switchmail; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:55:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from blackbird.weh.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from blackbird.weh.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Jun.27.1996.03.02.53.sun4.51.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.blackbird.weh.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4m.54 via MS.5.6.blackbird.weh.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4_51; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:54:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:54:02 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Valentino Crimi To: Steve Noble Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Netscape and FreeBSD..]] Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990223080905.A9101@sonn.com> References: <36D26919.946532@newsguy.com> <19990223080905.A9101@sonn.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Excerpts from FreeBSD-Alpha: 23-Feb-99 Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Netscap.. by Steve Noble@sonn.com >What exactly do we need here? I'd love to have a functional >copy of netscape for my FreeBSD/Alpha machine, and I'd be happy >to donate resources as needed. > >On Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 05:38:49PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: >> Would anyone be interested in taking up on this? Put me down as a "me too" in the compiling reserve. (just so long as the thing will fit in the approx 1 gig I have free :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 23 11:22: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A6F111A8 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:22:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA64849; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:22:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Netscape and FreeBSD..]] In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:07:58 +0900." <36D28C0E.7784ED95@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:22:02 -0800 Message-ID: <64845.919797722@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I'm simply making the point that beast.cdrom.com is the project box for such things and if mozilla is looking for an "official tinderbox" then why not volunteer something which is going to have a little CONTINUITY perhaps. :-) -Jordan > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > > Would you be willing to set it up and run it (at least until it's > > automated) on beast.cdrom.com? > > I'd rather have someone with an alpha do it... I'd find it hard to > believe no one in this list would like to do it, but, if that turns > out to be the case, we'll talk again. > > -- > Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) > dcs@newsguy.com > dcs@freebsd.org > > "To make it absolutely clear: you stand on the wrong end of my > blasters, so you better get lost before I start target practice!" > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 23 12:59:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8109011673 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:59:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA61594; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:58:31 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:58:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Netscape and FreeBSD..]] In-Reply-To: <36D28C0E.7784ED95@newsguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > > Would you be willing to set it up and run it (at least until it's > > automated) on beast.cdrom.com? > > I'd rather have someone with an alpha do it... I'd find it hard to > believe no one in this list would like to do it, but, if that turns > out to be the case, we'll talk again. I have plenty of computing power and disk space for this but not enough net bandwidth to make it practical. I like living in the UK but I wish the telecoms was a *lot* better. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 23 13: 0:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EBA1168A for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:00:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA61598; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:59:42 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:59:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Don Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD Alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Don wrote: > Hi, > > I have been trying to install FreeBSD alpha on an alpha I have but the > installation keeps failing late in the game with the following error: > Could not install /kernel > > If i jump to the vty it shows errors during the last 4 items installed > which state: > > cp: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected > chmod : 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected > xargs : 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected > tar : 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected > > In any case /kernel doesnt seem to want to go in. > > The machine is one of the infamous alpha station 200 4/233's from onsale > with a different graphics card, 96 megs of ram and a 3 gig scsi hard disk. > > Any help would be appreciated. Off the top of my head, I would suggest that you have extracted an i386 binary set. I'm planning to do a few test installs tomorrow so we will see. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 23 13: 3:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599C7116BE for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:03:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA61614; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:03:07 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:03:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Khaled Daham Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bootable CD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Khaled Daham wrote: > Hi! > > I ws just wondering if there is a special tweak to make a bootable CD > for alpha. Ive done so for i386, and repeating that procedure didnt work > on my alpha, SRM didnt think the CD had a valid bootblock.So has anyone > tried ? > > the line I used was > mkisofs -o /mnt2/fbsdaxp.iso -b floppies/boot.flp -c boot.catalog -r -T -p > FreeBSD -P www.freebsd.org -A FreeBSD_3_1_Alpha -V FBSD31 [dir] I'm not exactly sure how SRM wants a bootable CD arranged but I suspect that its the same as a bootable disk - the bootstrap needs to be in a contiguous region and the first disk block has two fields with the block address and size of the bootstrap. I think NetBSD has some code for making bootable cds for alphas but I don't have the source tree handy right now... -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 23 13:42: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from calis.blacksun.org (Calis.blacksun.org [168.100.186.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52B5114D0 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:41:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from don@calis.blacksun.org) Received: from localhost (don@localhost) by calis.blacksun.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA00532; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:42:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from don@calis.blacksun.org) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:42:24 -0500 (EST) From: Don To: Doug Rabson Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD Alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Off the top of my head, I would suggest that you have extracted an i386 > binary set. I'm planning to do a few test installs tomorrow so we will > see. this was based on the boot floppies in: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/snapshots/alpha/4.0-19990206-SNAP This floppy booted and so did the one in 4.0-19990204-SNAP. I sent these machines to the 4.0 Snap server and they went out and got all of the information but died when trying to install the kernel at the end. Is there a problem with the floppy or with the server or am i doing something wrong? -Don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 23 14:11:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416F5117A7 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:11:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id HAA23041; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 07:11:12 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <36D32746.69F94BD7@newsguy.com> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 07:10:14 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Noble Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Netscape and FreeBSD..]] References: <36D26919.946532@newsguy.com> <19990223080905.A9101@sonn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve Noble wrote: > > What exactly do we need here? I'd love to have a functional > copy of netscape for my FreeBSD/Alpha machine, and I'd be happy > to donate resources as needed. I'm not aware of the exact requirements. I guess it is just as the forwarded message said... > From: Brian Ostrom > > I'd very much like to add a FreeBSD/alpha system to my collection, > but unfortunately I don't have a spare AlphaStation. You are > welcome > to run a Tinderbox build on one of your own machines, however. All > you'd need is a copy of my (very) hacked perl script, and approval > from someone here (probably Daniel Nunes [leaf@netscape.com]). I > for one would be very happy to get more non-Netscape machines > hosting > continuous UNIX builds! > > briano. If you are interested, contact Brian and go on from there. I think having a Netscape for FreeBSD/alpha would be very good for FreeBSD in general, not only alpha. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "To make it absolutely clear: you stand on the wrong end of my blasters, so you better get lost before I start target practice!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 23 14:12:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C46E11A2D for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:12:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id HAA23111; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 07:12:38 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <36D3279C.B4B0704F@newsguy.com> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 07:11:40 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Netscape and FreeBSD..]] References: <64845.919797722@zippy.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > Well, I'm simply making the point that beast.cdrom.com is the > project box for such things and if mozilla is looking for an > "official tinderbox" then why not volunteer something which is going > to have a little CONTINUITY perhaps. :-) Indeed. :-) So, your point is now made for our pool of potential volunteers. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "To make it absolutely clear: you stand on the wrong end of my blasters, so you better get lost before I start target practice!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 23 16:24:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8683E1128C for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:24:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01873; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:19:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902240019.QAA01873@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Don Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD Alpha In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:39:58 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:19:14 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's generally a good idea to install the Alpha, not the i386, distribution. You need to install via URL... > I have been trying to install FreeBSD alpha on an alpha I have but the > installation keeps failing late in the game with the following error: > Could not install /kernel > > If i jump to the vty it shows errors during the last 4 items installed > which state: > > cp: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected > chmod : 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected > xargs : 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected > tar : 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected > > In any case /kernel doesnt seem to want to go in. > > The machine is one of the infamous alpha station 200 4/233's from onsale > with a different graphics card, 96 megs of ram and a 3 gig scsi hard disk. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > -Don > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 24 14:10:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F5412294 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:07:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA62913; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:03:15 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:03:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Don Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD Alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Don wrote: > > Off the top of my head, I would suggest that you have extracted an i386 > > binary set. I'm planning to do a few test installs tomorrow so we will > > see. > this was based on the boot floppies in: > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/snapshots/alpha/4.0-19990206-SNAP > > This floppy booted and so did the one in 4.0-19990204-SNAP. I sent these > machines to the 4.0 Snap server and they went out and got all of the > information but died when trying to install the kernel at the end. > > Is there a problem with the floppy or with the server or am i doing > something wrong? I think that sysinstall must be using the wrong pathname on the snap server. I'll have a look at the code but you should be able to work around it my specifying an explicit pathname to an alpha snapshot. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 24 14:44:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from zruty.comnets.rwth-aachen.de (zruty.comnets.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.4.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659801126B for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:44:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ost@comnets.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from kirk.comnets.rwth-aachen.de (kirk [137.226.4.246]) by zruty.comnets.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00376; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:04:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (ost@localhost) by kirk.comnets.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.12/COMNETS-1.0) id KAA21366; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:04:39 +0100 To: Doug Rabson Cc: Khaled Daham , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bootable CD References: Reply-To: Martin Ostermann x-no-archive: yes From: Martin Ostermann Date: 24 Feb 1999 10:04:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: Doug Rabson's message of "Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:03:07 +0000 (GMT)" Message-ID: <43iucsqijc.fsf@comnets.rwth-aachen.de> Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:03:07 +0000 (GMT), Doug Rabson said: >> I ws just wondering if there is a special tweak to make a bootable CD >> for alpha. Ive done so for i386, and repeating that procedure didnt work >> on my alpha, SRM didnt think the CD had a valid bootblock.So has anyone >> tried ? [..] > I think NetBSD has some code for making bootable cds for alphas but I > don't have the source tree handy right now... There's also isomarkboot in the aboot package of Linux/Alpha. I once got it compiled and used on FreeBSD/x86, though it needed some patches, because it wasn't 32 bit clean, but assumed sizeof(long) == 8. If my patches didn't make into the source yet, you should be able find them in the axp-list archive at RedHat (sometimes around summer '96, I believe). HTH, Martin -- Martin Ostermann | mailto:ost+sig0@comnets.rwth-aachen.de Communication Networks | http://www.comnets.rwth-aachen.de/~ost Aachen University of Technology | phone: ++49/241/807917 Germany | fax: ++49/241/8890378 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 25 3:45: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailb.telia.com (mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3839814D5A for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 03:45:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khaled@mailbox.telia.net) Received: from mailbox.telia.net (khaled@mailbox.telia.net [194.237.170.234]) by mailb.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23523; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:29:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (khaled@localhost) by mailbox.telia.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26750; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:29:47 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:29:47 +0100 (CET) From: Khaled Daham To: Martin Ostermann Cc: Doug Rabson , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bootable CD In-Reply-To: <43iucsqijc.fsf@comnets.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ive stumlbed upon a text file whom the guy making mkisofs wrote , he stated that scsi-cdrom-drives was not aware of "El Torrito", and I have a scsi cdrom-drive so that maybe is the problem.. On 24 Feb 1999, Martin Ostermann wrote: > On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:03:07 +0000 (GMT), Doug Rabson said: > >> I ws just wondering if there is a special tweak to make a bootable CD > >> for alpha. Ive done so for i386, and repeating that procedure didnt work > >> on my alpha, SRM didnt think the CD had a valid bootblock.So has anyone > >> tried ? > [..] > > I think NetBSD has some code for making bootable cds for alphas but I > > don't have the source tree handy right now... > > There's also isomarkboot in the aboot package of Linux/Alpha. I once > got it compiled and used on FreeBSD/x86, though it needed some patches, > because it wasn't 32 bit clean, but assumed sizeof(long) == 8. If my > patches didn't make into the source yet, you should be able find them > in the axp-list archive at RedHat (sometimes around summer '96, I > believe). > > HTH, Martin > -- > Martin Ostermann | mailto:ost+sig0@comnets.rwth-aachen.de > Communication Networks | http://www.comnets.rwth-aachen.de/~ost > Aachen University of Technology | phone: ++49/241/807917 > Germany | fax: ++49/241/8890378 > /Khaled, Telia Network Services Mail: khaled@telia.net Cell: 070-6785492 Work: 08-4567281 :hacker: /n./ [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 25 6:36:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from assurance.rstcorp.com (unknown [206.29.49.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3BF14CFD for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 06:36:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by assurance.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01781; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:35:57 -0500 Received: from sandbox.rstcorp.com(206.29.49.63) by assurance.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma001773; Thu, 25 Feb 99 09:35:33 -0500 Received: from jabberwock.rstcorp.com (jabberwock [206.29.49.98]) by sandbox.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25112; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:35:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from vshah@localhost) by jabberwock.rstcorp.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) id JAA28863; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:35:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:35:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902251435.JAA28863@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> From: "Viren R. Shah" To: Doug Rabson Cc: Don , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD Alpha In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Doug" == Doug Rabson writes: Doug> I think that sysinstall must be using the wrong pathname on the snap Doug> server. I'll have a look at the code but you should be able to work Doug> around it my specifying an explicit pathname to an alpha snapshot. It is, I just got bit by this too. Sysinstall installs the i386 dists by default. It wasn't until I spent about an hour downloading that I attempted to use the holographic shell ,and discovered that none of the new binaries worked. :-) So, I reinstalled with a user-specified URL to ftp2.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/alpha. One other problem with sysinstall seems to be that it defaults to 32M for the / partition. This works for i386, but it gets easily filled up on the alpha. The only reason I can think of for this is the >3M kernels for the alpha. Why are the alpha kernels so much bigger ? infection# uname -a FreeBSD infection 4.0-19990224-SNAP FreeBSD 4.0-19990224-SNAP #0: Wed Feb 24 16:51:45 GMT 1999 root@sloth.noc.erols.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC alpha infection# ls -la /kernel* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3748642 Feb 24 11:51 /kernel I had to remove kernel.GENERIC to make space on / Doug> Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Viren -- Viren R. Shah viren @ rstcorp . com http://www.rstcorp.com/~vshah/ ``NT, Networking, Security. Pick any two (you can't have all three).'' -- _The Twelve Networking Truths_, RFC 1925, paraphrased To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 25 8: 3:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from calis.blacksun.org (Calis.blacksun.org [168.100.186.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3AC414BF1 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:03:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from don@calis.blacksun.org) Received: from localhost (don@localhost) by calis.blacksun.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA06790; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:04:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from don@calis.blacksun.org) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:04:16 -0500 (EST) From: Don To: "Viren R. Shah" Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD Alpha In-Reply-To: <199902251435.JAA28863@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > One other problem with sysinstall seems to be that it defaults to 32M > for the / partition. This works for i386, but it gets easily filled up > on the alpha. The only reason I can think of for this is the >3M > kernels for the alpha. Why are the alpha kernels so much bigger ? sysinstall probably should allocate more space on / considering the size of alpha binaries. Alpha kernels (and all alpha software in general) are bigger because there are fewer instructions in the instruction set and so it takes more instructions to accomplish the same task ... thus a larger program. -Don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 25 13:15:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from assurance.rstcorp.com (unknown [206.29.49.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B7414E15 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 13:14:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by assurance.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06407; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:14:29 -0500 Received: from sandbox.rstcorp.com(206.29.49.63) by assurance.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma006404; Thu, 25 Feb 99 16:13:58 -0500 Received: from jabberwock.rstcorp.com (jabberwock [206.29.49.98]) by sandbox.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02951; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:13:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from vshah@localhost) by jabberwock.rstcorp.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) id QAA40486; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:13:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:13:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902252113.QAA40486@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> From: "Viren R. Shah" To: Don Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD Alpha In-Reply-To: References: <199902251435.JAA28863@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Don" == Don writes: >> kernels for the alpha. Why are the alpha kernels so much bigger ? Don> Alpha kernels (and all alpha software in general) are bigger Don> because there are fewer instructions in the instruction set and Don> so it takes more instructions to accomplish the same task Don> ... thus a larger program. Aah. I figured they would be bigger due to that, but I didn't think it would be 3x bigger. Couple of non-related Qs: 1. Is there a freebsd/alpha rc5 client available? I couldn't find one at distributed,net 2. Anyone know how to set up a "make world" so that /tmp is not used? My "make world" keeps crashing because it fills up the root partition during the build. I was trying to find a way to set the tmp space to /usr/tmp, but couldn't see anything in /usr/share/mk/* Don> -Don Viren -- Viren R. Shah viren @ rstcorp . com http://www.rstcorp.com/~vshah/ ``NT, Networking, Security. Pick any two (you can't have all three).'' -- _The Twelve Networking Truths_, RFC 1925, paraphrased To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 25 20: 8:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from po9.andrew.cmu.edu (PO9.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7E914DD6 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:08:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tcrimi+@andrew.cmu.edu) Received: (from postman@localhost) by po9.andrew.cmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.2) id XAA18925; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:07:53 -0500 (EST) Received: via switchmail; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:07:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix7.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:06:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix7.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:06:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Jun.27.1996.03.02.53.sun4.51.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix7.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4m.54 via MS.5.6.unix7.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4_51; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:06:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8qpVrCu00Uw=08QK40@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:06:38 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Valentino Crimi To: "Viren R. Shah" Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD Alpha Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199902252113.QAA40486@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> References: <199902251435.JAA28863@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> <199902252113.QAA40486@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Excerpts from FreeBSD-Alpha: 25-Feb-99 Re: Installing FreeBSD Alpha by "Viren R. Shah"@rstcorp. > > 1. Is there a freebsd/alpha rc5 client available? I couldn't find one > at distributed,net I downloaded the NetBSD binary and it works just fine. (Hopefully soon we can download the OSF binary, which due to their compiler is probably faster, actually, can we? ;)). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 25 20:29:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from junior.lgc.com (junior.lgc.com [134.132.72.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9AC14DFC for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:29:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: from oasis.zycor.lgc.com by junior.lgc.com (8.8.8/lgc.1.26) id WAA13538; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:28:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from maroon ([134.132.228.8]) by oasis.zycor.lgc.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA25131; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:29:03 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199902260429.WAA25131@oasis.zycor.lgc.com> X-Sender: king@mail.sstar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:29:04 -0600 To: Thomas Valentino Crimi , alpha@freebsd.org From: Jim King Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD Alpha In-Reply-To: <8qpVrCu00Uw=08QK40@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <199902252113.QAA40486@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> <199902251435.JAA28863@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> <199902252113.QAA40486@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:06 PM 2/25/99 -0500, you wrote: >Excerpts from FreeBSD-Alpha: 25-Feb-99 Re: Installing FreeBSD Alpha by >"Viren R. Shah"@rstcorp. >> >> 1. Is there a freebsd/alpha rc5 client available? I couldn't find one >> at distributed,net > > I downloaded the NetBSD binary and it works just fine. (Hopefully >soon we can download the OSF binary, which due to their compiler is >probably faster, actually, can we? ;)). The last time I tried it (which was a while back) the NetBSD client was faster than the OSF/1 client. I volunteered to do FreeBSD/Alpha builds for distributed.net, but haven't heard anything more from them. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Feb 26 3:51: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6933114F18 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 03:50:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA71367; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:50:21 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:50:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: "Viren R. Shah" Cc: Don , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD Alpha In-Reply-To: <199902251435.JAA28863@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Viren R. Shah wrote: > >>>>> "Doug" == Doug Rabson writes: > > Doug> I think that sysinstall must be using the wrong pathname on the snap > Doug> server. I'll have a look at the code but you should be able to work > Doug> around it my specifying an explicit pathname to an alpha snapshot. > > It is, I just got bit by this too. Sysinstall installs the i386 dists > by default. It wasn't until I spent about an hour downloading that I > attempted to use the holographic shell ,and discovered that none of > the new binaries worked. :-) So, I reinstalled with a user-specified > URL to ftp2.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/alpha. I'll try to fix it. > > One other problem with sysinstall seems to be that it defaults to 32M > for the / partition. This works for i386, but it gets easily filled up > on the alpha. The only reason I can think of for this is the >3M > kernels for the alpha. Why are the alpha kernels so much bigger ? I'll change the default size for / too. The alpha kernels are bigger because the alpha code is less compact I think. The 32bit instructions and 64bit pointers just spread things out a bit I'm afraid. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Feb 26 11:41:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-46.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A929F15027 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:41:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rose@netscape.com) Received: from mail.npec.netscape.com (arches.npec.netscape.com [205.217.234.197]) by netscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28261 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from netscape.com ([205.217.236.202]) by mail.npec.netscape.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id AAA18677 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:41:36 -0800 Message-ID: <36D6F907.AEF75B1D@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:41:59 -0800 From: Stephen Rose Organization: Compaq Computer Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; U; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Alpha FreeBSD Mozilla machine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I noticed a message in the Alpha FreeBSD list about Briano wanting an Alpha FreeBSD machine for Mozilla builds. I'm the Compaq (formerly Digital) manager for porting work on site at Netscape. It also happens that I've run FreeBSD for four years at home. Since I can break loose an Alpha, I've offered it to Brian, which he accepted. However, trying to set it up for him seems to involve some problems. I've installed the Feb. 6 snapshot. Since it doesn't have XFree86, I've been trying to track down how to build that. I've discovered the patches that seem to be necessary, but these need some gcc patches that seem to be out of sync with the gcc that's in the snap. It seems to be looking for a freebsd-elf.h include file that doesn't exist. My goal is to set this machine up for Brian so that he can run a Mozilla tinderbox on it. To do this, I'll need X, GTK, and whatever else it depends on. Since none of us have huge amounts of time to try all the combinations here, could you recommend the right things to start with so I can accomplish this quickly? I could start with a different snap if that's appropriate. Thanks. Steve Rose To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Feb 26 14:57:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cara.sonn.com (cara.sonn.com [206.79.239.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DD114FA6 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:57:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from snoble@cara.sonn.com) Received: (from snoble@localhost) by cara.sonn.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id OAA01968; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:55:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:55:54 -0800 From: Steve Noble To: Stephen Rose Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alpha FreeBSD Mozilla machine Message-ID: <19990226145554.A1885@sonn.com> References: <36D6F907.AEF75B1D@netscape.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <36D6F907.AEF75B1D@netscape.com>; from Stephen Rose on Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 11:41:59AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was actually easily able to get it build on snap 0206.. using the stock gcc and the patches from doug www.freebsd.org/~dfr .. mostly I did this a.) cvs's up the to newest XFree86 under/ usr/ports/x11/XFree86 b.) put the patch from doug on c.) ran the compile It compiled cleanly for me other then when I went to make install it errored out and i had to muck with it a bit, if you need help.. On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 11:41:59AM -0800, Stephen Rose wrote: > I noticed a message in the Alpha FreeBSD list about Briano wanting an > Alpha > FreeBSD machine for Mozilla builds. I'm the Compaq (formerly Digital) > manager for porting work on site at Netscape. It also happens that I've > run FreeBSD for four years at home. Since I can break loose an Alpha, > I've offered it to Brian, which he accepted. However, trying to set it > up for him seems to involve some problems. I've installed the Feb. 6 > snapshot. Since it doesn't have XFree86, I've been trying to track down > how to build that. I've discovered the patches that seem to be > necessary, > but these need some gcc patches that seem to be out of sync with the gcc > that's in the snap. It seems to be looking for a freebsd-elf.h include > file that doesn't exist. My goal is to set this machine up for Brian so > that he can run a Mozilla tinderbox on it. To do this, I'll need X, > GTK, > and whatever else it depends on. Since none of us have huge amounts of > time to try all the combinations here, could you recommend the right > things to start with so I can accomplish this quickly? I could start > with a different snap if that's appropriate. Thanks. > > Steve Rose > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Steven Noble / Network Janitor / Be free my soul and leave this world alone : : My views = My views != The views of any of my past or present employers : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 27 2:37:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9847114BDB for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:37:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA76706; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:32:49 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:32:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Stephen Rose Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alpha FreeBSD Mozilla machine In-Reply-To: <36D6F907.AEF75B1D@netscape.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, Stephen Rose wrote: > I noticed a message in the Alpha FreeBSD list about Briano wanting an > Alpha > FreeBSD machine for Mozilla builds. I'm the Compaq (formerly Digital) > manager for porting work on site at Netscape. It also happens that I've > run FreeBSD for four years at home. Since I can break loose an Alpha, > I've offered it to Brian, which he accepted. However, trying to set it > up for him seems to involve some problems. I've installed the Feb. 6 > snapshot. Since it doesn't have XFree86, I've been trying to track down > how to build that. I've discovered the patches that seem to be > necessary, > but these need some gcc patches that seem to be out of sync with the gcc > that's in the snap. It seems to be looking for a freebsd-elf.h include > file that doesn't exist. My goal is to set this machine up for Brian so > that he can run a Mozilla tinderbox on it. To do this, I'll need X, > GTK, > and whatever else it depends on. Since none of us have huge amounts of > time to try all the combinations here, could you recommend the right > things to start with so I can accomplish this quickly? I could start > with a different snap if that's appropriate. Thanks. Where are you applying the patch? I think you need to be in /usr/src/contrib. To test this, I just did this: cvs -d /home/ncvs co contrib_gcc cd contrib_gcc patch -Ip1 < .../gcc.diff which applied with no errors. The -p1 argument was needed because my checkout produced a directory contrib_gcc instead of the normal name (/usr/src/contrib/gcc). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 27 8:42: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from locus.dml.com (locus.dml.com [198.49.1.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB68150D5 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:41:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rose@dml.com) Received: from localhost (rose@localhost) by locus.dml.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA28319; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:41:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rose@locus.dml.com) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:41:03 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Rose To: dfr@nlsystems.com Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alpha FreeBSD Mozilla machine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think the patches applied ok, but the build doesn't get very far. It seems to look for a file freebsd-elf.h. I'm going to look at it a little more closely, when I get time. Maybe I need to do something a little more than a simplistic ./configure and make. I think that I should get the compiler upgraded before I give it to them. I don't want them to be fighting compiler weaknesses when they try to figure out build problems. Steve Rose On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, Stephen Rose wrote: > I noticed a message in the Alpha FreeBSD list about Briano wanting an > Alpha > FreeBSD machine for Mozilla builds. I'm the Compaq (formerly Digital) > manager for porting work on site at Netscape. It also happens that I've > run FreeBSD for four years at home. Since I can break loose an Alpha, > I've offered it to Brian, which he accepted. However, trying to set it > up for him seems to involve some problems. I've installed the Feb. 6 > snapshot. Since it doesn't have XFree86, I've been trying to track down > how to build that. I've discovered the patches that seem to be > necessary, > but these need some gcc patches that seem to be out of sync with the gcc > that's in the snap. It seems to be looking for a freebsd-elf.h include > file that doesn't exist. My goal is to set this machine up for Brian so > that he can run a Mozilla tinderbox on it. To do this, I'll need X, > GTK, > and whatever else it depends on. Since none of us have huge amounts of > time to try all the combinations here, could you recommend the right > things to start with so I can accomplish this quickly? I could start > with a different snap if that's appropriate. Thanks. Where are you applying the patch? I think you need to be in /usr/src/contrib. To test this, I just did this: cvs -d /home/ncvs co contrib_gcc cd contrib_gcc patch -Ip1 < .../gcc.diff which applied with no errors. The -p1 argument was needed because my checkout produced a directory contrib_gcc instead of the normal name (/usr/src/contrib/gcc). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 27 8:47: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDF6150AE for ; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:46:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA91809; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 16:46:26 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 16:46:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Stephen Rose Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alpha FreeBSD Mozilla machine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Stephen Rose wrote: > I think the patches applied ok, but the build doesn't get very far. It > seems to look for a file freebsd-elf.h. I'm going to look at it a little > more closely, when I get time. Maybe I need to do something a little more > than a simplistic ./configure and make. I think that I should get the > compiler upgraded before I give it to them. I don't want them to be > fighting compiler weaknesses when they try to figure out build problems. > > Steve Rose I have never actually tried to configure and build from /usr/src/contrib/gcc with the GNU makefiles. I always build from the FreeBSD-specific makefiles in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc which make sure everything is built correctly and installed as the system compiler. You should be able to go to /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc and type 'make all install'. A simple 'make world' would also work and would have the benefit of rebuilding everything in the system with the new compiler. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. 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