From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Mar 7 8:39:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0235414C15 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 08:39:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA00517 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 08:41:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) From: Steve Kargl Message-Id: <199903071641.IAA00517@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: fast math library for alpha/axp To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 08:41:06 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: kargl@apl.washington.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reading the comp.lang.fortran newsgroup, I came across a reference to a fast math library for the alpha. It implements many, but not all, math functions in libm. The library is LGPL'd. I currently do not have FreeBSD running on an alpha machine, but I thought I would bring this to your attention. For more, information: http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/Joachim.Wesner -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Mar 7 10:11:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from arc.hq.cti.ru (arc.hq.cti.ru [195.34.40.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772B014C87 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 10:11:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tejblum@arc.hq.cti.ru) Received: from arc.hq.cti.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arc.hq.cti.ru (8.9.2/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA63245; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 21:10:25 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <199903071810.VAA63245@arc.hq.cti.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Doug Rabson Cc: Dmitrij Tejblum , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Weird problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Mar 1999 21:19:14 GMT." Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 21:10:25 +0300 From: Dmitrij Tejblum Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > rm(1) behave buggy. It is sometimes works, sometimes die with > > 'segmentation fault', sometimes die with 'illegal instruction', and > > sometimes fail with 'rm: No such file or directory' (without a file > > name). Every other program, including the compiler, seems works correct, > > (I built a couple of ports), so I don't think it is a hardware problem > > like 'bad memory' :-|. > > > > Any idea? > > I've not heard of this before. It smells like a VM problem but its > strange that only one program is affected. Does this happen every time > you reboot (maybe stale contents in the cache)? What if you rebuild rm > from sources? Now I think it is a compiler/optimizer bug. After I recompiled libc and rm without optimization, the bug has disappear. But later, in make buildworld, I noticed another problems: for example, strip(1) and nm(1) sometimes die too... Well, now, after several rounds, make buildworld going on, it is now pretty far, and I hope this time it will succeed. (BTW, nm(1) failures apparently were fixed by recompile of /bin/sh without optimization. I applied the gcc patch from your page and tried build /bin/sh with -O - it didn't help). I am still very confused. Am I the first man who ever tried to install 19990206-SNAP? Anyone build world without any optimization, right? I don't actually believe that the answers are "yes"... Dima To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Mar 7 13:27:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from bolet.ens.fr (bolet.ens.fr [129.199.99.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08764151CE for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 13:27:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pornin@bolet.ens.fr) Received: (from pornin@localhost) by bolet.ens.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA07625; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 22:22:02 +0100 Message-ID: <19990307222202.A7614@bolet.ens.fr> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 22:22:02 +0100 From: Thomas Pornin To: Dmitrij Tejblum Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Weird problems References: <199903071810.VAA63245@arc.hq.cti.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i In-Reply-To: <199903071810.VAA63245@arc.hq.cti.ru>; from Dmitrij Tejblum on Sun, Mar 07, 1999 at 09:10:25PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 07, 1999 at 09:10:25PM +0300, Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: > I am still very confused. Am I the first man who ever tried to install > 19990206-SNAP? Anyone build world without any optimization, right? I installed 19990206-SNAP, and made a standard world, and I am pretty sure it was with -O, and sh, nm, rm work. I do have problems with some utilities (dmesg, kvm_mkdb, netstat -r,...) if I recompile a kernel too different from the generic one (I could add softupdates without this problem, though). My machine is a UDB (cpu is 21066 I guess). --Thomas Pornin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Mar 7 14:12:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from toetag.com (toetag.com [206.169.92.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C44914EA6 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 14:12:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@toetag.com) Received: from toetag.com (tom@localhost.toetag.com [127.0.0.1]) by toetag.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA10697; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 14:12:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199903072212.OAA10697@toetag.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Doug Rabson Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound/video In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Mar 1999 11:54:52 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 14:12:11 -0800 From: "Tom" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 06 Mar 1999 11:54:52 GMT, Doug Rabson writes: >On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Tom wrote: > >> >> I was wondering if anyone has been successful with sound on a AS200 4/233, a >nd >> also if anyone is working on the bktr drivers? >> >> I got bktr to build and ID my card, but my box crashes at that point. >> >> Tips? > >As far as the bktr driver goes, the best person to ask is Roger Hardiman > who maintains the driver. > Thanks, Roger helped me last year when I re-ported bktr to BSDi. Didn't want to bother him until I'd exausted other resources since I didn't see anything alpha in the cvs tree. Guess it's time :-) -- tom@unhooked.net ICQ - 16163541 Get UnHOOKeD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Mar 7 16: 4:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au (bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au [130.102.41.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2597A14E40 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:04:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from talbotn@bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au) Received: from localhost (talbotn@localhost) by bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA02540; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:04:57 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from talbotn@bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:04:56 +1000 (EST) From: Talbot NEIL To: Tom Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sound/video In-Reply-To: <199903060730.XAA03980@toetag.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org tom, i have a as 200 4/233 running freebsd 4.0 any questions mail me. Talbot NEIL talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Tom wrote: | |I was wondering if anyone has been successful with sound on a AS200 4/233, and |also if anyone is working on the bktr drivers? | |I got bktr to build and ID my card, but my box crashes at that point. | |Tips? | | |-- |tom@unhooked.net ICQ - 16163541 |Get UnHOOKeD. | | | | |To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org |with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 8 4:32:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au (bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au [130.102.41.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D4614ED5 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 04:32:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au) Received: from bettymae.lani.net.au (hmmknowl.staff.uq.edu.au [172.22.13.53]) by bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA01659; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 22:32:01 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au) Message-Id: <4.1.19990304020429.0092cc70@130.102.41.66> X-Sender: talbotn@130.102.41.88 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 02:06:25 +1000 To: "Paolo Di Francesco" From: Talbot NEIL Subject: Re: sound/video Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19990308122411.ZVHT4973.fep03-svc@winworkstation> References: <199903060730.XAA03980@toetag.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 13:32 8/03/99 +0000, you wrote: >> tom, >> >> i have a as 200 4/233 running freebsd 4.0 any questions mail me. >> >> > >Is the 4.0 kernel version different from the 3.1? I want to try to port >FreeBSD to sparc and I don't know if to start with the 3.1 or the 4.0. > >I think the HAL in FreeBSD is not so good (too much asm code in some >pieces) so is this situation changed in 4.0? > > > > >Ciao Ciao > Paolo Di Francesco > _ > ->B<- All Recycled Bytes Message ... > ~ Palo, I am unsure as i have not delved into the code of the source much. If you wish to have access to the Box I am willing to give it as i do not have much free time on my hands at the moment. Talbot NEIL Talbot NEIL To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 9 11:22:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.ucsf.edu (piglet.ucsf.EDU [128.218.67.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C249015087 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:21:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@piglet.ucsf.edu) Received: (from steve@localhost) by piglet.ucsf.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA53407 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:21:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:21:33 -0800 From: Steve Sizemore To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Installing boot manager Message-ID: <19990309112133.A52866@cmpharm.ucsf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Trying to install any flavor of BSD on my AlphaPC 164LX. So far FreeBSD seems to come closest, but... After several attempts to install from CDROM (3.1) and various ftp distributions, I finally had success installing the current (4.0) snapshot. The only error message that I got was that the compat22 package failed, which I guess isn't surprising. However, the machine won't boot - it can't find /boot/loader. Why wasn't that installed, and how do I install it? Also, I'm wondering why every time I boot the installation disks, it wants to repartition my disk. Especially after my last install, which seems to have gone to completion, the partition info (as well as populated file systems) should be on the disk, but sysinstall doesn't see it. Thanks for your help. Steve -- ----------------------------------------------#-----#--#####--------------- # # # # Steve Sizemore # # # Dept. of Cellular and Molecular Pharmacology # # # Box 0450, Room HSE-1285 # # # University of California Medical Center # # # # 513 Parnassus Avenue ##### ##### ##### ####### San Francisco CA 94143-0450 # # # # # steve@cmpharm.ucsf.edu ##### ##### (415) 476-6987 FAX: (415) 476-6515 # # # # # -------------------------------------------------------------#####--#------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 9 12:20:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E312154F4 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:19:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25685; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 20:19:41 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 20:19:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Steve Sizemore Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing boot manager In-Reply-To: <19990309112133.A52866@cmpharm.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Steve Sizemore wrote: > Trying to install any flavor of BSD on my AlphaPC 164LX. So far > FreeBSD seems to come closest, but... > > After several attempts to install from CDROM (3.1) and various ftp > distributions, I finally had success installing the current (4.0) > snapshot. The only error message that I got was that the compat22 > package failed, which I guess isn't surprising. > > However, the machine won't boot - it can't find /boot/loader. Why > wasn't that installed, and how do I install it? Can you tell me exactly which 4.0 snapshot you installed? It might be useful to list the contents of /boot from the emergency shell after another test installation. > > Also, I'm wondering why every time I boot the installation disks, it > wants to repartition my disk. Especially after my last install, which > seems to have gone to completion, the partition info (as well as > populated file systems) should be on the disk, but sysinstall doesn't see > it. I know about this but I haven't been able to fix it yet. Its quite hard debugging libdisk when it only seems to go wrong when sysinstall uses it :-(. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 9 16:12:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.ucsf.edu (piglet.ucsf.EDU [128.218.67.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7390114FF7 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 16:12:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@piglet.ucsf.edu) Received: (from steve@localhost) by piglet.ucsf.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA54996; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 16:11:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 16:11:44 -0800 From: Steve Sizemore To: Doug Rabson Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing boot manager Message-ID: <19990309161144.A55035@cmpharm.ucsf.edu> References: <19990309112133.A52866@cmpharm.ucsf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Doug Rabson on Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 08:19:41PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 08:19:41PM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote: > On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Steve Sizemore wrote: > > > Trying to install any flavor of BSD on my AlphaPC 164LX. So far > > FreeBSD seems to come closest, but... > > > > After several attempts to install from CDROM (3.1) and various ftp > > distributions, I finally had success installing the current (4.0) > > snapshot. The only error message that I got was that the compat22 > > package failed, which I guess isn't surprising. > > > > However, the machine won't boot - it can't find /boot/loader. Why > > wasn't that installed, and how do I install it? > > Can you tell me exactly which 4.0 snapshot you installed? It might be > useful to list the contents of /boot from the emergency shell after > another test installation. Yesterday I installed 206 from ftp2.freebsd.org. Today that one was gone, so I switched to 304, which is the one that resulted in my email, above. Since then, either the network or server performance has been so bad that I haven't been able to reinstall it. I had to go back to 206 from ftp.freebsd.org. (Why don't the mirrors all have the same directory structures and snapshots?) I just finished installing that one. /boot has boot1, loader, and netboot, which are all "MS Windows COFF Unknown CPU" files. There is also a help file. I hope that the "Unknown CPU" is not Intel... Well, I just booted it, and viola! :-) Looks like the 0204 snapshot works, and the 0304 is broken. Steve -- ----------------------------------------------#-----#--#####--------------- # # # # Steve Sizemore # # # Dept. of Cellular and Molecular Pharmacology # # # Box 0450, Room HSE-1285 # # # University of California Medical Center # # # # 513 Parnassus Avenue ##### ##### ##### ####### San Francisco CA 94143-0450 # # # # # steve@cmpharm.ucsf.edu ##### ##### (415) 476-6987 FAX: (415) 476-6515 # # # # # -------------------------------------------------------------#####--#------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 11 7:11:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from master.telia.net (master.telia.net [194.237.170.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8798A15449 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:11:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zealot@master.telia.net) Received: from master.telia.net (host11-ncc.telia.net [62.20.126.11]) by master.telia.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA14455 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:12:15 GMT Message-ID: <36E7DCE5.55740C20@master.telia.net> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:10:29 +0100 From: Joonas Tizihssane X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: The Boot Disk(s) for the samsung UX 164 MB a.k.a Ruffian Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm wondering how it is going with the creation of the boot disk(s) for this Motherboard, i wish though that i could help you guys but i know nada about programming.. yours Joonas... -- I stand accused and confused but refuse to confess... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 11 7:22:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D5E15106 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:22:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA10833; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.2/8.9.1) id KAA60202; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:22:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:22:21 -0500 (EST) To: Joonas Tizihssane Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The Boot Disk(s) for the samsung UX 164 MB a.k.a Ruffian In-Reply-To: <36E7DCE5.55740C20@master.telia.net> References: <36E7DCE5.55740C20@master.telia.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14055.56765.550918.319240@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joonas Tizihssane writes: > I'm wondering how it is going with the creation of the boot disk(s) for > this Motherboard, i wish though that i could help you guys but i know > nada about programming.. > > yours Joonas... > Unfortunately, this motherboard doesn't support the SRM console, only AlphaBios. FreeBSD/alpha will only run on machines which have the SRM console. So, you can't run FreeBSD/alpha on a UX motherboard. There are people working on getting FreeBSD/alpha running on machines with the AlphaBios, but I have no idea how much progress they've made. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 11 14:43:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555AC14CB5 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:43:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA31404; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:44:00 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:44:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Joonas Tizihssane , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Boot Disk(s) for the samsung UX 164 MB a.k.a Ruffian In-Reply-To: <14055.56765.550918.319240@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Joonas Tizihssane writes: > > I'm wondering how it is going with the creation of the boot disk(s) for > > this Motherboard, i wish though that i could help you guys but i know > > nada about programming.. > > > > yours Joonas... > > > > Unfortunately, this motherboard doesn't support the SRM console, only > AlphaBios. FreeBSD/alpha will only run on machines which have the SRM > console. So, you can't run FreeBSD/alpha on a UX motherboard. > > There are people working on getting FreeBSD/alpha running on machines > with the AlphaBios, but I have no idea how much progress they've made. Progress with this board is stalled since the firmware is not much like AlphaBIOS at all and information about the differences are so far hard to come by. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 11 14:48:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866591529C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:48:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from mips.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id XAA18121 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:48:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de) Received: by mips.rhein-neckar.de id m10LCCk-000WyeC (Debian Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2); Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:37:18 +0100 (CET) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: The Boot Disk(s) for the samsung UX 164 MB a.k.a Ruffian Date: 11 Mar 1999 21:37:15 +0100 Message-ID: <7c99hr$mja$1@mips.rhein-neckar.de> References: <36E7DCE5.55740C20@master.telia.net> <14055.56765.550918.319240@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Unfortunately, this motherboard doesn't support the SRM console, only > AlphaBios. Actually it comes with ARCSBIOS which is yet again different from AlphaBIOS. I assume ARCSBIOS is the alpha port of the mips ARC console. Apparently it's only good for booting NT, too. I'm not sure how different the UX is from the LX board. I've tried to flash the LX SRM console into my UX (there's an emergency "Safe ARCSBIOS" to recover from broken firmware updates) to see whether it runs, but I haven't even managed to get it flashed. I'm going to install the Red Hat Linux that came with my alpha (hey, Linux ain't bad), maybe we can figure something out later. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de >H Deutsche Transhumanismus-Mailingliste echo 'subscribe trans-de' | mail majordomo@lists.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 12 12:31: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755EA14D28 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:31:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from dan (pm3a-6.cybcon.com [205.147.75.135]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA10990 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:30:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990311122853.0079ed90@mail.cybcon.com> X-Sender: wwoods@mail.cybcon.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:28:53 -0800 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: William Woods Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am looking into purchasing a DEC Alpha to run FreeBSd on. I understand the Alpha port is fairly mature and fairly stable. This would not be a production machiene, but a learning machiene. My question pertains to the system itself.... Are there any kind of reccomendations that people would have regarding the type of Alpha I should look into...also, where would a good place to find used alphas at reasonable prices be? Thanks, Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 12 13:33:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACAA14CD4 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:33:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA36136; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 21:34:28 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 21:34:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: William Woods Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990311122853.0079ed90@mail.cybcon.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, William Woods wrote: > I am looking into purchasing a DEC Alpha to run FreeBSd on. I understand > the Alpha port is fairly mature and fairly stable. This would not be a > production machiene, but a learning machiene. My question pertains to the > system itself.... > > Are there any kind of reccomendations that people would have regarding the > type of Alpha I should look into...also, where would a good place to find > used alphas at reasonable prices be? > > Thanks, I don't know where you would go about finding reasonably priced used alphas but as far as supported platforms go, we can run on most non-AlphaServer platforms (but not the latest 21264 based systems). Systems based on the Samsung UX motherboard are not supported. I have a Personal Workstation 433au and a 533Mhz 164LX based machine here and they are both decent systems. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 12 14:32: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3C2155DF for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:32:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA01958; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:31:02 -0800 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:31:02 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Doug Rabson Cc: William Woods , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > system itself.... > > > > Are there any kind of reccomendations that people would have regarding the > > type of Alpha I should look into...also, where would a good place to find > > used alphas at reasonable prices be? > > > > Thanks, > > I don't know where you would go about finding reasonably priced used > alphas but as far as supported platforms go, we can run on most > non-AlphaServer platforms (but not the latest 21264 based systems). > Systems based on the Samsung UX motherboard are not supported. Occasionally www.onsale.com has alpha machines. I find it frustrating 'coz I just want to get one sometimes and don't want to fool around with bidding- but it does work for some folks.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 12 17: 3: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from student.lssu.edu (student.lssu.edu [198.110.216.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4928814C4E for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:02:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pe@student.lssu.edu) Received: from localhost (pe@localhost) by student.lssu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA20882 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 20:04:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 20:04:13 -0500 (EST) From: "System Admin." To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd alpha distribution. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have a DEC Alpha 400 server and I want to put in FreeBSD Alpha. Where can I get the distribution of freebsd alpha version? TIA pe' ------------------------------ UNIX System Admin. Distributed Computing Services Lake Superior State University 650 W. Easterday Ave. Sault Ste. Marie. MI 49783 USA. ------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 12 19:32:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au (bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au [130.102.41.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44DB14E6C for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:32:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au) Received: from bettymae.lani.net.au (hmmknowl.staff.uq.edu.au [172.22.13.53]) by bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA03100; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 13:31:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au) Message-Id: <4.1.19990304062025.009217e0@130.102.41.66> X-Sender: talbotn@130.102.41.88 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 06:30:01 +1000 To: "System Admin." From: Talbot NEIL Subject: Re: freebsd alpha distribution. Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org pe' you can get the alpha install disks from: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/snapshots/alpha/4.0-19990206-SNAP /floppies/ you will need to make a boot.flp and a mfsroot.flp also when you install you will need to install from a FTP site via the URL option or else you will install the i386 version and it will not work the URL to put in to install from is ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/snapshots/alpha any problems feel free to E-Mail me. Talbot NEIL At 20:04 12/03/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hello, > I have a DEC Alpha 400 server and I want to put in FreeBSD Alpha. >Where can I get the distribution of freebsd alpha version? > >TIA > >pe' > > >------------------------------ >UNIX System Admin. >Distributed Computing Services >Lake Superior State University >650 W. Easterday Ave. >Sault Ste. Marie. MI >49783 USA. >------------------------------ > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 12 20: 2:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.spel.com (ip226-39-143.spel.com [208.226.39.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660DD14F9C for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 20:01:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mturpin@saturn.spel.com) Received: from localhost (mturpin@localhost) by saturn.spel.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA00442; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 22:56:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mturpin@saturn.spel.com) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 22:56:51 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Turpin To: Talbot NEIL Cc: "System Admin." , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd alpha distribution. In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990304062025.009217e0@130.102.41.66> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > the URL to put in to install from is > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/snapshots/alpha > Actually the URL is: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/alpha Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Turpin | Consulting - Training - Network Installation Systems Engineer | Main Street Technology Centre | http://www.MainStreetTech.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Mar 13 0:33: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from malkavian.org (unfunfunf.com [206.138.59.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17F314E52 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 00:33:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: from localhost (rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id BAA00929 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 01:32:44 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 01:32:44 -0700 (MST) From: "brian j. peterson" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.88 MB floppies Message-ID: X-Prime: (2 ^ 3021377) - 1 X-Prime-Candidate: (2 ^ 6833059) - 1 X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org from .../alpha/4.0-19990206-SNAP/floppies/README.TXT : If you're on an ALPHA machine which netboots its floppy images or you have a 2.88MB or LS-120 floppy capable of taking a 2.88MB image on an x86 machine, you may still wish to use the older (but now twice as large) boot.flp image which we also provide. That contains the contents of kern.flp and mfsroot.flp on a single floppy, essentially, and can be used in all of the above scenarios as well as a handy boot image for those mastering "El Torito" bootable CD images. See the mkisofs(1) command for more information. just wondering, but does anyone know where to get some 2.88 MB floppies? from what i gather, having everything on one floppy should make life a bit easier. -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== rbw aka bjp | today has never happened and it doesn't frighten me. rbw@myplace.org | -bjork, alarm call, homogenic ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Mar 13 7:34:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from galaxy.lca.uevora.pt (galaxy.lca.uevora.pt [193.137.216.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA8E14E48 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 07:34:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mavillez@galaxy.lca.uevora.pt) Received: from localhost (mavillez@localhost) by galaxy.lca.uevora.pt (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA15331 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 15:34:00 GMT Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 15:34:00 +0000 (WET) From: To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: installing FreeBSD in Alpha? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All, I have several questions regarding to installation of FreeBSD on alpha architecture machines: 1. Is there any installation manual available which refers to specific alpha machines? 2. What are the most commom problems with PC164 LX, and PWS 600AU? 3. Installing FreeBSD, where can we find the post-installation packages? 4. Did anyone set up a clustered of alpha machines running FreeBSD and MPI? thanks for your help, Miguel Avillez To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Mar 13 11:54:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.spel.com (ip226-39-143.spel.com [208.226.39.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99CF14E16 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 11:54:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mturpin@saturn.spel.com) Received: from localhost (mturpin@localhost) by saturn.spel.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA04065; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 14:50:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mturpin@saturn.spel.com) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 14:50:07 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Turpin To: "brian j. peterson" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.88 MB floppies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, brian j. peterson wrote: > just wondering, but does anyone know where to get some 2.88 MB floppies? > from what i gather, having everything on one floppy should make life a bit > easier. I got mine at Staples. OfficeMax might have them.. Look for 2.88 or ED disks Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Turpin | Consulting - Training - Network Installation Systems Engineer | Main Street Technology Centre | http://www.MainStreetTech.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message