From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Mar 24 20:22:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from brain.sma.uq.edu.au (brain.sma.uq.edu.au [130.102.41.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF6C1503F for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 20:22:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au) Received: from bettymae (hmmknowl.staff.uq.edu.au [172.22.13.53]) by brain.sma.uq.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA25994 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:55:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au) Message-Id: <4.1.19990325142350.009281e0@130.102.41.66> X-Sender: talbotn@130.102.41.66 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:25:36 +1000 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: Talbot NEIL Subject: 3.1 RELEASE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_19307260==_.ALT" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=====================_19307260==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hi guys, I was just wondering does the Distribution on the 3.1 release cd's work well on the alpha or is it best to stay with the snapshots?? Talbot NEIL Systems Administrator | talbotn@sma.uq.edu.au | +61 4 1220 4365 Sports Medicine Australia | talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au | --=====================_19307260==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
hi guys,

I was just wondering does the Distribution on the 3.1 release cd's work well on the alpha or is it best to stay with the snapshots??


Talbot NEIL

Systems Administrator      | talbotn@sma.uq.edu.au         | +61 4 1220 4365
Sports Medicine Australia  | talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au | --=====================_19307260==_.ALT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 25 1:40:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E56114DAB for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:40:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA85818; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:44:36 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:44:36 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Talbot NEIL Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3.1 RELEASE In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990325142350.009281e0@130.102.41.66> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Talbot NEIL wrote: > > hi guys, > > I was just wondering does the Distribution on the 3.1 release cd's work well on > the alpha or is it best to stay with the snapshots?? I'm pretty sure that the version of sysinstall on the 3.1 CD has some serious problems. The most recent snapshots can be found at ftp://mirrors.rcn.com/pub/FreeBSD/alpha. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 25 1:43:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au (bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au [130.102.41.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D75414DAB for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:43:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au) Received: from bettymae (hmmknowl.staff.uq.edu.au [172.22.13.53]) by bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA04239; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 19:43:47 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au) Message-Id: <4.1.19990325194528.00943670@130.102.41.66> X-Sender: talbotn@130.102.41.88 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 19:46:31 +1000 To: Doug Rabson From: Talbot NEIL Subject: Re: 3.1 RELEASE Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990325142350.009281e0@130.102.41.66> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug , i need a stable version . is there such a beast or am i chasing my tail. Talbot At 09:44 25/03/99 +0000, Doug Rabson wrote: >On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Talbot NEIL wrote: > >> >> hi guys, >> >> I was just wondering does the Distribution on the 3.1 release cd's work >well on >> the alpha or is it best to stay with the snapshots?? > >I'm pretty sure that the version of sysinstall on the 3.1 CD has some >serious problems. The most recent snapshots can be found at >ftp://mirrors.rcn.com/pub/FreeBSD/alpha. > >-- >Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com >Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 25 1:53:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D4614EC5 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:53:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA85850; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:57:08 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:57:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Talbot NEIL Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3.1 RELEASE In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990325194528.00943670@130.102.41.66> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Talbot NEIL wrote: > Doug , > > i need a stable version . is there such a beast or am i chasing my tail. > > Talbot I can't see anywhere which has a recent 3.1 snapshot to download. You could try installing the 3.1-RELEASE set from the CD and then doing a source upgrade to 3.1-STABLE with cvsup. If the install program gives you trouble you should be able to use the install floppies from a more recent snapshot to install the 3.1 binaries. If I had my 3.1 CD set, I could test this out but I've lent them to a friend :-(. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 25 8:13:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2C214D49 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:13:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA43858 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:13:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: alpha@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Alpha world broken Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:13:01 -0500 Message-ID: <43854.922378381@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/ include -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c crypt_clnt.c -o crypt_clnt.So building shared library libc_r.so.3 building standard c_r library sigpending.So: In function `sigpending': /usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/alpha/sys/sigpending.S:32: multiple definition of `sigpending' uthread_sigpending.So(.text+0x0):uthread_sigpending.c: first defined here /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `sigpending' changed from 52 to 44 in sigpending.So ranlib libc_r.a *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 25 10:44: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4548F152F3; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:44:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01298; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:43:39 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:43:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Gary Palmer Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alpha world broken In-Reply-To: <43854.922378381@gjp.erols.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Gary Palmer wrote: > > cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/ > include -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread > -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale > -DBROKEN_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c crypt_clnt.c -o > crypt_clnt.So > building shared library libc_r.so.3 > building standard c_r library > sigpending.So: In function `sigpending': > /usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/alpha/sys/sigpending.S:32: multiple definition of > `sigpending' > uthread_sigpending.So(.text+0x0):uthread_sigpending.c: first defined here > /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `sigpending' > changed from 52 to 44 in sigpending.So > ranlib libc_r.a > *** Error code 1 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error I have just committed this fix: Index: sigpending.S =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libc/alpha/sys/sigpending.S,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 sigpending.S --- sigpending.S 1998/03/09 06:34:42 1.1.1.1 +++ sigpending.S 1999/03/25 18:41:48 @@ -29,8 +29,8 @@ #include "SYS.h" -SYSCALL(sigpending) +PSYSCALL(sigpending) stl v0, 0(a0) mov zero, v0 RET -END(sigpending) +PEND(sigpending) -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 25 11:27:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54ACE14D1D; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:27:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA03172; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 06:28:24 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199903251928.GAA03172@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Alpha world broken In-Reply-To: <43854.922378381@gjp.erols.com> from Gary Palmer at "Mar 25, 1999 11:13: 1 am" To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG (Gary Palmer) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 06:28:24 +1100 (EST) Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gary Palmer wrote: > building standard c_r library > sigpending.So: In function `sigpending': > /usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/alpha/sys/sigpending.S:32: multiple definition of > `sigpending' > uthread_sigpending.So(.text+0x0):uthread_sigpending.c: first defined here > /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `sigpending' > changed from 52 to 44 in sigpending.So > ranlib libc_r.a Oops, sorry, my fault. I'll fix... -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 25 11:30:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CADF15031; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:30:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA03235; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 06:31:04 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199903251931.GAA03235@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Alpha world broken In-Reply-To: from Doug Rabson at "Mar 25, 1999 6:43:39 pm" To: dfr@nlsystems.com (Doug Rabson) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 06:31:04 +1100 (EST) Cc: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Rabson wrote: > I have just committed this fix: > > Index: sigpending.S > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libc/alpha/sys/sigpending.S,v > retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 > diff -u -r1.1.1.1 sigpending.S > --- sigpending.S 1998/03/09 06:34:42 1.1.1.1 > +++ sigpending.S 1999/03/25 18:41:48 > @@ -29,8 +29,8 @@ > > #include "SYS.h" > > -SYSCALL(sigpending) > +PSYSCALL(sigpending) > stl v0, 0(a0) > mov zero, v0 > RET > -END(sigpending) > +PEND(sigpending) Thanks, I missed committing that file. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 25 11:56: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701DA1530F for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:55:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA46817; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:55:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) To: Doug Rabson Cc: alpha@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Alpha world broken In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:43:39 GMT." Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:55:23 -0500 Message-ID: <46812.922391723@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Rabson wrote in message ID : > I have just committed this fix: Thanks Doug. Hopefully another snap will build tomorrow now :) BTW, would there be interest if I could persuade my Alpha to build both 3.x-stable and 4.x-current snaps? Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 25 12:52:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailg.telia.com (mailg.telia.com [194.22.194.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C221314FC5 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:52:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khaled@mailbox.telia.net) Received: from mailbox.telia.net (khaled@mailbox.telia.net [194.237.170.234]) by mailg.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04219 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 21:52:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (khaled@localhost) by mailbox.telia.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA06389 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 21:52:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 21:52:09 +0100 (CET) From: Khaled Daham To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: ncr0 timeouts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! recently while ive been trying to cvsup I get error messages like this ncr0: timeout nccb=0xffffe000052xxxx (skip) which turns the computer in an unusable state , which leaves the reset switch as the only alternative. the /usr/src is a 2GB part on a brand new 9.1GB fujitsu disk. the controller is a ncr0: rev 0x03 int a irq 3 on pci0.9.0 its about 4-5 months old , a tekram card .. uname -a FreeBSD alpha.telia.net 4.0-19990221-SNAP FreeBSD 4.0-19990221-SNAP #2: Sun Mar 14 21:45:54 GMT 1999 root@alpha.telia.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/alpha alpha So is there any solutions to this problem ? I havent checked the tekram site for firmware upgrades yet. /Khaled, Telia Network Services Mail: khaled@telia.net Cell: 070-6785492 Work: 08-4567281 :hacker: /n./ [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 25 14:38:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from motgate2.mot.com (motgate2.mot.com [129.188.136.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B841504E for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:37:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rittle@supra.rsch.comm.mot.com) Received: [from pobox2.mot.com (pobox2.mot.com [129.188.137.195]) by motgate2.mot.com (MOT-motgate2 1.0) with ESMTP id QAA29237; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:38:45 -0600 (CST)] Received: [from supra.rsch.comm.mot.com (supra.rsch.comm.mot.com [145.1.80.40]) by pobox2.mot.com (MOT-pobox2 2.0) with ESMTP id QAA21030; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:35:44 -0600 (CST)] Received: by supra.rsch.comm.mot.com (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4/LJR-2) id QAA22350; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:37:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:37:13 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199903252237.QAA22350@supra.rsch.comm.mot.com> From: "Loren J. Rittle" To: talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, dfr@nlsystems.com Subject: Re: 3.1 RELEASE In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990325142350.009281e0@130.102.41.66> Reply-To: rittle@rsch.comm.mot.com User-Agent: SEMI/1.10.1 (Morimoto) FLIM/1.11.3 (Saidaiji) Emacs/20.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.10.1 - "Morimoto") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > i need a stable version [of FreeBSD/alpha]. is there such a beast or > am i chasing my tail. I can't answer that question yet, but I agree from personal experience that the 3.1-RELEASE boot floppies have some *major* problems. At the very least, I had been unable to get it to newfs and mount disk partitions properly before starting the install from CD-ROM. Other notes: The de device driver didn't like the 21143 "tulip" Ethernet chipset on my 433au motherboard (the device is found at boot time, but doesn't work for the install). The same was true of two PCI Ethernet cards I tried under FreeBSD-3.1-RELEASE/alpha which use the pn and vx device drivers under FreeBSD/i386 (they aren't even recognized by the boot floppy kernel). I am currently trying Doug's suggestion to use these boot disks (he didn't suggest this exact version, but it was the latest on the suggested mirror): ftp://mirrors.rcn.com/pub/FreeBSD/alpha/4.0-19990304-SNAP/floppies/kern.flp ftp://mirrors.rcn.com/pub/FreeBSD/alpha/4.0-19990304-SNAP/floppies/mfsroot.flp with my 3.1-RELEASE CD. Make sure that you change the `Release Name' option to match 3.1-RELEASE. Otherwise, you will get a warning and the install will fail soon after that point. So far, this has worked *much* better than with the boot floppies that shipped with 3.1-RELEASE. My disk partitions were all created and mounted as I expected and the distribution is being unpacked as I would expect. I will send another message once I see how stable it is, but I wanted to report that using a later boot disk set was seemingly OK. Regards, Loren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 25 15:18:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E336F15016; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:18:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01872; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:18:01 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:18:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Gary Palmer Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alpha world broken In-Reply-To: <46812.922391723@gjp.erols.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Gary Palmer wrote: > Doug Rabson wrote in message ID > : > > I have just committed this fix: > > Thanks Doug. Hopefully another snap will build tomorrow now :) > > BTW, would there be interest if I could persuade my Alpha to build > both 3.x-stable and 4.x-current snaps? I think there would be. I would appreciate it if you could arrange to upload a more recent snapshot to ftp.cdrom.com - the ones there are pretty stale. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 25 16: 6:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BE51530F; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:06:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06437; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:06:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Doug Rabson Cc: Gary Palmer , alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alpha world broken In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:43:39 GMT." Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:06:21 -0800 Message-ID: <6435.922406781@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have just committed this fix: Yay! I can take that one out of my local tree on beast then. I have a couple more like this I should commit myself. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 25 16: 9:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E5A1530F; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:09:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06456; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:09:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Doug Rabson Cc: Gary Palmer , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alpha world broken In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:18:01 GMT." Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:09:03 -0800 Message-ID: <6454.922406943@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I think there would be. I would appreciate it if you could arrange to > upload a more recent snapshot to ftp.cdrom.com - the ones there are pretty > stale. Mea culpa on that one - beast has been down and/or having network card problems. I just reinstalled it from scratch last night and hope to have 4.0-current snaps rolling off of it for ftp.freebsd.org by tonite. I had no plans to do 3.1 snapshots as well, but if there's interest maybe Gary or I could do that one. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 26 0:43:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from ftpbox.mot.com (ftpbox.mot.com [129.188.136.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA921557F for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 00:43:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rittle@supra.rsch.comm.mot.com) Received: [from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by ftpbox.mot.com (MOT-ftpbox 1.0) with ESMTP id CAA23971; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 02:43:08 -0600 (CST)] Received: [from supra.rsch.comm.mot.com (supra.rsch.comm.mot.com [145.1.80.40]) by pobox.mot.com (MOT-pobox 2.0) with ESMTP id CAA05290; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 02:43:07 -0600 (CST)] Received: by supra.rsch.comm.mot.com (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4/LJR-2) id CAA25651; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 02:43:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 02:43:07 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199903260843.CAA25651@supra.rsch.comm.mot.com> From: "Loren J. Rittle" To: talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199903252237.QAA22350@supra.rsch.comm.mot.com> (rittle@supra.rsch.comm.mot.com) Subject: Re: 3.1 RELEASE Reply-To: rittle@comm.mot.com References: <199903252237.QAA22350@supra.rsch.comm.mot.com> User-Agent: SEMI/1.10.1 (Morimoto) FLIM/1.11.3 (Saidaiji) Emacs/20.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.10.1 - "Morimoto") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <199903252237.QAA22350@supra.rsch.comm.mot.com>, I wrote: > I am currently trying Doug's suggestion to use these boot disks (he didn't > suggest this exact version, but it was the latest on the suggested mirror): > ftp://mirrors.rcn.com/pub/FreeBSD/alpha/4.0-19990304-SNAP/floppies/kern.flp > ftp://mirrors.rcn.com/pub/FreeBSD/alpha/4.0-19990304-SNAP/floppies/mfsroot.flp > with my 3.1-RELEASE CD. This procedure worked fine! I now have FreeBSD-3.1-RELEASE installed on an alpha machine (433au). I am now working on getting a working network interface so I can install a WWW proxy cache based on Apache (to replace a similar service currently running on a Solaris box on my desktop which is about to be replaced by another FreeBSD machine ;-) Regards, Loren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 26 0:55:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F8714FC4; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 00:55:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03092; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:55:00 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:55:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Gary Palmer , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alpha world broken In-Reply-To: <6454.922406943@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I think there would be. I would appreciate it if you could arrange to > > upload a more recent snapshot to ftp.cdrom.com - the ones there are pretty > > stale. > > Mea culpa on that one - beast has been down and/or having network card > problems. I just reinstalled it from scratch last night and hope to > have 4.0-current snaps rolling off of it for ftp.freebsd.org by > tonite. I had no plans to do 3.1 snapshots as well, but if there's > interest maybe Gary or I could do that one. I don't know whether a regular build is needed but the one 3.1 snapshot available on ftp.cdrom.com is very old. Just one fresh one to replace it would be a good idea. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 26 0:58:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au (bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au [130.102.41.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DB914FC4 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 00:58:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from talbotn@bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au) Received: from localhost (talbotn@localhost) by bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA05950; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:59:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from talbotn@bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:59:50 +1000 (EST) From: Talbot NEIL To: rittle@comm.mot.com Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3.1 RELEASE In-Reply-To: <199903260843.CAA25651@supra.rsch.comm.mot.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Loren J. Rittle wrote: |In article <199903252237.QAA22350@supra.rsch.comm.mot.com>, I wrote: | |> I am currently trying Doug's suggestion to use these boot disks (he didn't |> suggest this exact version, but it was the latest on the suggested mirror): | |> ftp://mirrors.rcn.com/pub/FreeBSD/alpha/4.0-19990304-SNAP/floppies/kern.flp |> ftp://mirrors.rcn.com/pub/FreeBSD/alpha/4.0-19990304-SNAP/floppies/mfsroot.flp | |> with my 3.1-RELEASE CD. | |This procedure worked fine! I now have FreeBSD-3.1-RELEASE installed |on an alpha machine (433au). I am now working on getting a working |network interface so I can install a WWW proxy cache based on Apache |(to replace a similar service currently running on a Solaris box on my |desktop which is about to be replaced by another FreeBSD machine ;-) | |Regards, |Loren | Loren, I am installing 3.1-RELEASE from ftp via URL ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ as it is only 2 hops away from me. it seems to install ok but one thing i would like to know is are there any packages for FreBSD/alpha or not ?????? Talbot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 26 7: 1:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from calis.blacksun.org (Calis.blacksun.org [168.100.186.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A1B15044 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 07:01:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from don@calis.blacksun.org) Received: from localhost (don@localhost) by calis.blacksun.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA59009; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:03:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from don@calis.blacksun.org) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:03:08 -0500 (EST) From: Don To: rittle@rsch.comm.mot.com Cc: talbotn@sportsmedicine.com.au, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, dfr@nlsystems.com Subject: Re: 3.1 RELEASE In-Reply-To: <199903252237.QAA22350@supra.rsch.comm.mot.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > i need a stable version [of FreeBSD/alpha]. is there such a beast or > > am i chasing my tail. Well I have been running 4.0 on an older Alpha 233 and have not had any problems with stability. It has only been a few weeks now but it is serving as a name server and I routinely use it for other tasks. Other than a small fiasco when I tried to install the 3.1-stable release of the Alpha distribution (and the install disks needed to be told what ftp server to use) the port has been generally very reliable. -Don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 26 11:44: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from motgate.mot.com (motgate.mot.com [129.188.136.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D899414E31 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:43:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rittle@supra.rsch.comm.mot.com) Received: [from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (MOT-motgate 1.0) with ESMTP id NAA02339; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:43:20 -0600 (CST)] Received: [from supra.rsch.comm.mot.com (supra.rsch.comm.mot.com [145.1.80.40]) by pobox.mot.com (MOT-pobox 2.0) with ESMTP id NAA25465; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:43:19 -0600 (CST)] Received: by supra.rsch.comm.mot.com (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4/LJR-2) id NAA29027; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:43:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:43:19 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199903261943.NAA29027@supra.rsch.comm.mot.com> From: "Loren J. Rittle" To: talbotn@bertyboy.sma.uq.edu.au Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Talbot NEIL on Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:59:50 +1000 (EST)) Subject: Re: 3.1 RELEASE Reply-To: rittle@comm.mot.com References: User-Agent: SEMI/1.10.1 (Morimoto) FLIM/1.11.3 (Saidaiji) Emacs/20.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.10.1 - "Morimoto") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article , Talbot NEIL writes: > I am installing 3.1-RELEASE from ftp via URL > ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ > as it is only 2 hops away from me. > it seems to install ok but one thing i would like to know is are there any > packages for FreBSD/alpha or not ?????? It appears that there are ports (i.e. source) but no packages (pre-built binaries). Even under FreeBSD/i386, I have always used the ports to build my own local binary so this has not been a problem for me. Regards, Loren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 26 13:34:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FF915131 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:34:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04098; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 21:34:07 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 21:34:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Talbot NEIL Cc: rittle@comm.mot.com, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3.1 RELEASE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Talbot NEIL wrote: > it seems to install ok but one thing i would like to know is are there any > packages for FreBSD/alpha or not ?????? There are no pre-built packages as yet. Some work was done to disable the non-buildable ports so it might be possible to put together a build machine now. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 26 16:46:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from archeron.good.com (mgooderum1.dsl.uswest.net [209.180.19.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F5714D48 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:46:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@jumpweb.com) Received: by archeron.good.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:45:08 -0600 Message-ID: <50C732FEDE87D211954300A024786203A659@archeron.good.com> From: Mark Gooderum To: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: Install on Multia Problems Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:45:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to get FreeBSD loaded on a couple of DEC Multia's. I don't have a good way to get a SCSI CD-ROM hooked up so I'm trying FTP and Hard Disk installs. But I'm running into a couple of different problems. First it took a bit to figure out how to boot things. I actually had to go to the NetBSD web site to find some pointers on SRM (I've gotten Linux and NT loaded on the machines before but that uses the ARC console). The first box I'm working with has a Seagate Elite-9 (external case of course) with 64MB of RAM. NT labels the disk as 8669 cyls w/a 64*32 geometry. If I use the whole disk in FreeBSD setup, it resets the geometry to 255*32 p/cyl. If I boot with the 3.1-RELEASE floppies I have a few problems: * Terminal support is bizarre. * w/ANSI, things look okay but Enter and Spacebar are reversed (spacebar seems to select, Enter works like TAB between fields. I can move through most fields w/ CTRL-N but nothing highlights, so it's hard to tell where you're at. I can get through all the screens but when I get to the networking setup screen for FTP media (ip addr, etc), I can't get out of the screen except w/ 'ESC'. Moving to OK or Cancel neither enter or space works so I can't get the networking configured. * w/VT100 or FreeBSD console, Enter/Space/Tab work right but other things are odd, formatting is crappy b/o unsupported terminal escapes, etc. * CTRL-P at _any_ point in the setup kicks me all the way out of Unix right back to the SRM console. * Disk Labelling/Partitioning Fails, It looks like the FreeBSD table gets written and maybe even the NewFS's succeed. I get a message about unable to create the device node and it says /etc not updated. If I restart the install, the label is there with the sizes and a N(o) on NewFS but there is no mount points. * I can't get any fixit stuff to work. The CD-ROM option prompts for a CD (which I don't currently have available), the Emergency Holographic Shell and Fixit disk options just repaint the screen (plus I don't have 2.88MB floppies for the fixit disk and I don't believe the Multia's have 2.88M floppy drives-at least they don't work if I set them to 2.88M in the ARC console setup). So I can't actually set what's going on. If I boot with any current snapshot floppies (tried 2/4, 2/6 and 3/6) I get to the prompt on terminal type and then it locks up, sort of. No keyboard entry works (although NumLock and CapsLock toggle). Any pointers would be helpful. I'm also still somewhat at a loss with the SRM console. Even if I get everything loaded, how do I get SRM to load FreeBSD when there is a FDISK table? I can think of a few possibilities...some sort of playing with the kernel on a FAT partition and a load command with a fat: option.? Clobber the ARC firmware and put the bootstrap code in Flash? The Linux docs have interesting instructions on how to replace ARC with MILO in most of the Alpha's. As far as I can tell there is no Alpha-specific documentation anywhere other than what bits I scrounged out of the NetBSD web site. Linux is way ahead in this department even though I prefer FreeBSD historically (returning to having some Unix in the shop after about a 18 month NT only hiatus). The RedHat manual has a pretty good description of ARC and it's options...anyone know if there is anything similar floating around for SRM? Feel free to get as technical as you need...my backround is Unix systems programming. My main handicap is I don't have another Unix/FreeBSD box in house short term, so building custom floppies and stuff is a bit hard. Well thanks in advance for any help, -- Mark Gooderum mark@jumpweb.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Mar 27 1:15:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3159A14C28 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 01:15:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08422; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 09:15:17 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 09:15:17 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Mark Gooderum Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Install on Multia Problems In-Reply-To: <50C732FEDE87D211954300A024786203A659@archeron.good.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Mark Gooderum wrote: > I'm trying to get FreeBSD loaded on a couple of DEC Multia's. I don't have > a good way to get a SCSI CD-ROM hooked up so I'm trying FTP and Hard Disk > installs. But I'm running into a couple of different problems. > > First it took a bit to figure out how to boot things. I actually had to go > to the NetBSD web site to find some pointers on SRM (I've gotten Linux and > NT loaded on the machines before but that uses the ARC console). > > The first box I'm working with has a Seagate Elite-9 (external case of > course) with 64MB of RAM. NT labels the disk as 8669 cyls w/a 64*32 > geometry. If I use the whole disk in FreeBSD setup, it resets the geometry > to 255*32 p/cyl. > > If I boot with the 3.1-RELEASE floppies I have a few problems: The install floppies for 3.1-RELEASE are really broken. Unfortunately, there isn't a more recent 3.1-STABLE snapshot available which has the fixed install program. I'm hoping for some improvements to this soon. > > * Terminal support is bizarre. > > * w/ANSI, things look okay but Enter and Spacebar are reversed > (spacebar seems to select, Enter works like TAB between fields. I can move > through most fields w/ CTRL-N but nothing highlights, so it's hard to tell > where you're at. I can get through all the screens but when I get to the > networking setup screen for FTP media (ip addr, etc), I can't get out of the > screen except w/ 'ESC'. Moving to OK or Cancel neither enter or space works > so I can't get the networking configured. > * w/VT100 or FreeBSD console, Enter/Space/Tab work right but other > things are odd, formatting is crappy b/o unsupported terminal escapes, etc. > * CTRL-P at _any_ point in the setup kicks me all the way out of Unix > right back to the SRM console. > > * Disk Labelling/Partitioning Fails, It looks like the FreeBSD table > gets written and maybe even the NewFS's succeed. I get a message about > unable to create the device node and it says /etc not updated. If I restart > the install, the label is there with the sizes and a N(o) on NewFS but there > is no mount points. This is fixed in more recent versions of sysinstall. > * I can't get any fixit stuff to work. The CD-ROM option prompts for > a CD (which I don't currently have available), the Emergency Holographic > Shell and Fixit disk options just repaint the screen (plus I don't have > 2.88MB floppies for the fixit disk and I don't believe the Multia's have > 2.88M floppy drives-at least they don't work if I set them to 2.88M in the > ARC console setup). So I can't actually set what's going on. I have never used fixit (either on i386 or alpha) so I don't know how its supposed to work. It might be asking for the 'live' filesystem CD which is i386 format in the release CD set. > > If I boot with any current snapshot floppies (tried 2/4, 2/6 and 3/6) I get > to the prompt on terminal type and then it locks up, sort of. No keyboard > entry works (although NumLock and CapsLock toggle). I don't know why that is. Can you try a more recent 4.0 snapshot from mirrors.rcn.com/pub/FreeBSD/alpha? > > Any pointers would be helpful. I'm also still somewhat at a loss with the > SRM console. Even if I get everything loaded, how do I get SRM to load > FreeBSD when there is a FDISK table? I can think of a few > possibilities...some sort of playing with the kernel on a FAT partition and > a load command with a fat: option.? Clobber the ARC firmware and put the > bootstrap code in Flash? The Linux docs have interesting instructions on how > to replace ARC with MILO in most of the Alpha's. With SRM you can't have an FDISK table on the boot disk. The SRM boot process needs a pointer to the bootstrap program in the first sector and this sits right on top of the FDISK partition table. The disk needs to be 'dedicated'. > > As far as I can tell there is no Alpha-specific documentation anywhere other > than what bits I scrounged out of the NetBSD web site. Linux is way ahead > in this department even though I prefer FreeBSD historically (returning to > having some Unix in the shop after about a 18 month NT only hiatus). The > RedHat manual has a pretty good description of ARC and it's options...anyone > know if there is anything similar floating around for SRM? I have a manual for SRM in pdf format which I picked up from www.digital.com somewhere. Try searching for srmcons.pdf. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Mar 27 12:40:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles561.castles.com [208.214.165.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A091615234 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 12:40:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00817; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 12:34:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199903272034.MAA00817@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mark Gooderum Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Install on Multia Problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:45:03 CST." <50C732FEDE87D211954300A024786203A659@archeron.good.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 12:34:20 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > If I boot with the 3.1-RELEASE floppies I have a few problems: These floppies are known to be seriously busted. Before you go anywhere else, grab the latest floppies from ftp://mirrors.rcn.com/pub/FreeBSD/alpha/ -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Mar 27 13:10:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F9F14C0C for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 13:10:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA33761 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 13:09:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: New 3.1-STABLE and 4.0-CURRENT alpha snapshots on ftp.freebsd.org Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 13:09:56 -0800 Message-ID: <33759.922568996@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/alpha/... Come and get 'em! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Mar 27 14:41:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from malkavian.org (unfunfunf.com [206.138.59.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D8614CEC for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 14:41:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: from localhost (rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA01902 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 15:41:03 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 15:41:03 -0700 (MST) From: "brian j. peterson" To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install on Multia Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Prime: (2 ^ 3021377) - 1 X-Prime-Candidate: (2 ^ 6833059) - 1 X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: # > As far as I can tell there is no Alpha-specific documentation anywhere other # > than what bits I scrounged out of the NetBSD web site. Linux is way ahead # > in this department even though I prefer FreeBSD historically (returning to # > having some Unix in the shop after about a 18 month NT only hiatus). The # > RedHat manual has a pretty good description of ARC and it's options...anyone # > know if there is anything similar floating around for SRM? # # I have a manual for SRM in pdf format which I picked up from # www.digital.com somewhere. Try searching for srmcons.pdf. fyi, i found copies here: ftp://gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/Digital/info/semiconductor/literature/srmcons.pdf ftp://ftp.europe.digital.com/pub/Digital/info/semiconductor/literature/srmcons.pdf -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== rbw aka bjp | today has never happened and it doesn't frighten me. rbw@myplace.org | -bjork, alarm call, homogenic ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message