From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 2:25:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (alecto.physics.uiuc.edu [130.126.8.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5418154DF for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 02:25:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu) Received: (from igor@localhost) by alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) id EAA13252; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 04:23:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Igor Roshchin Message-Id: <199908220923.EAA13252@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: rx list ??? In-Reply-To: <199908220545.AAA11248@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> from "Igor Roshchin" at "Aug 22, 1999 0:45:48 am" To: igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (Igor Roshchin) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 04:23:37 -0500 (CDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks to everybody replied! netstat -m cleared it up. It looks like the formula for calculating NMBCVLUSTERS from MAXUSERS just didn't work for me for some strange extreme situation (It happened for the first time after ~2.5 years of server running) So, I just set in opt_param.h the line: #define NMBCLUSTERS 8192 Igor > Hello! > > > I found the following messages (so far just once) on a server that is running > web-server (apache), and an ftp server. > > This is 3.1-19990412-STABLE with a custom-built kernel with > maxusers set to 128, > running on a PPRO-180 with 128MB of RAM and ~260MB of swap space. > > > Aug 21 16:00:29 HOST /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust NMBCL > USTERS or increase maxusers! > Aug 21 16:00:29 HOST /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packe > t dropped! > Aug 21 16:00:43 HOST last message repeated 1354 times > > I don't see anything in the logs that would indicate an extraodinary load , > however, it looks like neither of the servers logged anything > between 16:00:29 and 16:00:41 > > I wonder, whether it is possible that this is due some type of a DOS attack. > > Also, what can be done ? > I am not certain if boosting the value of maxusers up would be > a wise solution. > > Any thoughts are appreciated. > > Igor > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 5:32: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proxy2.rad.net.id (proxy2.rad.net.id [202.154.2.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5D414C87 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 05:32:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ens@linuxfan.com) Received: from billgate (dyn3037a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.44.37]) by proxy2.rad.net.id (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24827 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:28:26 +0700 (WIB) Message-Id: <199908221228.TAA24827@proxy2.rad.net.id> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:31:10 GMT To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org From: ens@linuxfan.com (ens) Subject: SUBSCRIBE X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; Opera/3.0; Windows 4.10) 3.51 [en] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG SUBSCRIBE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 5:34:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from situ.rad.net.id (situ.rad.net.id [202.154.1.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4A414C87 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 05:34:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ens@linuxfan.com) Received: from billgate (dyn3037a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.44.37]) by situ.rad.net.id (8.9.3/RADNET) with SMTP id TAA05245 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:33:34 +0700 (WIB) Message-Id: <199908221233.TAA05245@situ.rad.net.id> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:32:45 GMT To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org From: ens@linuxfan.com (ens) X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; Opera/3.0; Windows 4.10) 3.51 [en] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG SUBSCRIBE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 7:32:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web1001.mail.yahoo.com (web1001.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CD121550E for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 07:32:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvmcg@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990822143030.6784.rocketmail@web1001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.29.199.43] by web1001.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 07:30:30 PDT Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 07:30:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian McGroarty Reply-To: brian@pobox.com Subject: RE: successful buildworld (even perl) after disabling softupdates To: fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, ChrisMic@clientlogic.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (apologies for the duplicate send to some addresses. This is pre-coffee and I'm still fscking the booze off my skull platters.) Without soft updates, make -j 3 world fails at the same point and make world succeeds on a 3.2-RELEASE box trying to upgrade to -CURRENT. So there's definitely a dependency issue which a serial build addresses. If Fritz is doing a serial build (are you?) and that's manifesting itself as a race condition with soft updates, that's a Very Bad Thing. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:47:26 -0400 From: Christopher Michaels Subject: RE: successful buildworld (even perl) after disabling softupdates I suppose that is possible. But for the record, I did a buildworld 3 days ago, on a soft-updates enabled partition and it worked fine. - -Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Fritz Heinrichmeyer > > today i rebuilt my stable system after a fresh cvsup. > Former builds always broke in the stage "building everything" > on gnu/usr.bin/perl. > > The only thing i changed was the disabling of SOFTUPDATES. > > Can it be true that softupdates break make buildworld? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 9:25: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from po4.glue.umd.edu (po4.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1560315008 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 09:23:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Received: from poseidon (poseidon.student.umd.edu [129.2.220.99]) by po4.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA08988 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:21:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001701beecba$5c22a880$63dc0281@umd.edu> From: "Brandon Fosdick" To: Subject: Dual Boot on a 20GB HDD? Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:21:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG System: PIII-600 128MB RAM 20GB HDD on an Asus P3B-F mboard OS's: Win98, FBSD 3.2-R I already have two dos slices that take up the first 15GB of the drive so I tried installing FBSD at the end of the disk. The installation went fine but it won't boot into FBSD. When I hit F3 at boot-up to select FBSD I get a console beep and nothing happens. Hitting the F1 key takes it right into windoze w/o any problems. I've already tried updating the BIOS on the mboard. Is there a limitation in FBSD (or BootMgr) that prevents booting to a slice at the 15GB point? Thanks, Brandon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 9:48:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jamie-mailer.snet.co.uk (jamie-mailer.snet.co.uk [212.87.76.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AF815520 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 09:48:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamie@jamie-mailer.snet.co.uk) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by jamie-mailer.snet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00619 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:49:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie) From: Jamie Heckford Message-Id: <199908221649.RAA00619@jamie-mailer.snet.co.uk> Subject: subsrcibe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:49:32 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: hostmaster@jamiesdomain.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 9:50:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8AD15520 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 09:50:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn2208.bossig.com [208.26.242.208]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26364; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 09:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37C029FC.FC31E5A9@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 09:49:00 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brandon Fosdick Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual Boot on a 20GB HDD? References: <001701beecba$5c22a880$63dc0281@umd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brandon Fosdick wrote: > > System: PIII-600 128MB RAM 20GB HDD on an Asus P3B-F mboard > OS's: Win98, FBSD 3.2-R > > I already have two dos slices that take up the first 15GB of the drive so I > tried installing FBSD at the end of the disk. The installation went fine but > it won't boot into FBSD. When I hit F3 at boot-up to select FBSD I get a > console beep and nothing happens. Hitting the F1 key takes it right into > windoze w/o any problems. I've already tried updating the BIOS on the > mboard. Is there a limitation in FBSD (or BootMgr) that prevents booting to > a slice at the 15GB point? The boot or any part of that section the system can't be located after cylinder 1023 as setup by LBA. A lot of people have a small / system and everything else comes later. I don't have any multi-boot systems but I keep thinking of converting my Micron Millennia to one. It too slow for new versions of Windows but it would run command line stuff of FreeBSD just fine. Kent > > Thanks, > Brandon > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 10: 8: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from po3.glue.umd.edu (po3.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2746B1556D for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:07:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Received: from poseidon (poseidon.student.umd.edu [129.2.220.99]) by po3.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA06437; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001101beecc0$9f5b7680$63dc0281@umd.edu> From: "Brandon Fosdick" To: "Kent Stewart" Cc: References: <001701beecba$5c22a880$63dc0281@umd.edu> <37C029FC.FC31E5A9@3-cities.com> Subject: Re: Dual Boot on a 20GB HDD? Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:06:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Brandon Fosdick wrote: > > > > System: PIII-600 128MB RAM 20GB HDD on an Asus P3B-F mboard > > OS's: Win98, FBSD 3.2-R > > > > I already have two dos slices that take up the first 15GB of the drive so I > > tried installing FBSD at the end of the disk. The installation went fine but > > it won't boot into FBSD. When I hit F3 at boot-up to select FBSD I get a > > console beep and nothing happens. Hitting the F1 key takes it right into > > windoze w/o any problems. I've already tried updating the BIOS on the > > mboard. Is there a limitation in FBSD (or BootMgr) that prevents booting to > > a slice at the 15GB point? > > The boot or any part of that section the system can't be located after > cylinder 1023 as setup by LBA. A lot of people have a small / system > and everything else comes later. I don't have any multi-boot systems > but I keep thinking of converting my Micron Millennia to one. It too > slow for new versions of Windows but it would run command line stuff > of FreeBSD just fine. If I remember correctly cylinder 1023 is at 512MB. On my previous machine I had FBSD installed in the last GB of an 8.4 GB drive. That worked fine, is there something else that prevents slices from booting past the 8.4GB point? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 10:45:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles516.castles.com [208.214.165.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545F014F82 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:45:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06961; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:38:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199908221738.KAA06961@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Brandon Fosdick" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual Boot on a 20GB HDD? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:21:14 EDT." <001701beecba$5c22a880$63dc0281@umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:38:58 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > System: PIII-600 128MB RAM 20GB HDD on an Asus P3B-F mboard > OS's: Win98, FBSD 3.2-R > > I already have two dos slices that take up the first 15GB of the drive so I > tried installing FBSD at the end of the disk. The installation went fine but > it won't boot into FBSD. When I hit F3 at boot-up to select FBSD I get a > console beep and nothing happens. Hitting the F1 key takes it right into > windoze w/o any problems. I've already tried updating the BIOS on the > mboard. Is there a limitation in FBSD (or BootMgr) that prevents booting to > a slice at the 15GB point? This is a BIOS limitation; you can't (easily) boot anything beyond the 1024 cylinder limit. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 10:51:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles516.castles.com [208.214.165.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C195415560 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:51:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06995; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:44:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199908221744.KAA06995@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Brandon Fosdick" Cc: "Kent Stewart" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual Boot on a 20GB HDD? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:06:05 EDT." <001101beecc0$9f5b7680$63dc0281@umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:44:34 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Brandon Fosdick wrote:> > The boot or any part of that section the system can't be located after > > cylinder 1023 as setup by LBA. A lot of people have a small / system > > and everything else comes later. I don't have any multi-boot systems > > but I keep thinking of converting my Micron Millennia to one. It too > > slow for new versions of Windows but it would run command line stuff > > of FreeBSD just fine. > > If I remember correctly cylinder 1023 is at 512MB. On my previous machine I > had FBSD installed in the last GB of an 8.4 GB drive. That worked fine, is > there something else that prevents slices from booting past the 8.4GB point? You remember incorrectly. Why don't you go look at your BIOS settings and work out where the 1024 cylinder mark is for yourself? -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 11:43:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from po3.glue.umd.edu (po3.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240041559F for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:42:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Received: from poseidon (poseidon.student.umd.edu [129.2.220.99]) by po3.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA07629; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:42:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001201beecce$02f0b4a0$63dc0281@umd.edu> From: "Brandon Fosdick" To: "Mike Smith" Cc: References: <199908221738.KAA06961@dingo.cdrom.com> Subject: Re: Dual Boot on a 20GB HDD? Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:41:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > System: PIII-600 128MB RAM 20GB HDD on an Asus P3B-F mboard > > OS's: Win98, FBSD 3.2-R > > > > I already have two dos slices that take up the first 15GB of the drive so I > > tried installing FBSD at the end of the disk. The installation went fine but > > it won't boot into FBSD. When I hit F3 at boot-up to select FBSD I get a > > console beep and nothing happens. Hitting the F1 key takes it right into > > windoze w/o any problems. I've already tried updating the BIOS on the > > mboard. Is there a limitation in FBSD (or BootMgr) that prevents booting to > > a slice at the 15GB point? > > This is a BIOS limitation; you can't (easily) boot anything beyond the > 1024 cylinder limit. My old machine booted from somewhere in the 14000's. It had a BIOS from 1997. This new machine has a BIOS from 8/17/99. That's why I think this has something to do with FBSD. I sent a message to Asus just to make sure it's not a problem with the BIOS. -Brandon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 12:18:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DA814F52; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:17:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA72076; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 20:12:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA90546; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:05:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:05:11 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: jack Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Docs blows up make release Message-ID: <19990822110511.A89933@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from jack on Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 07:54:51PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ cc'd to -current ] On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 07:54:51PM -0400, jack wrote: > > Will support for building release docs in English only be > revived? > For the immediate future, it looks like it will -- it seems as though we don't have the man power to make the necessary changes to sysinstall to support "installing the docs as packages", so I'm going to fix up src/release/Makefile as necessary to cope with the new directory structure. I will find this much, much, much easier if someone could e-mail me a directory listing of what the contents of ${RD}/trees looks like after the src/release/Makefile:doc.1 target has been run. This saves me having to scrounge together the necessary resources to actually be able to build a release on my home system. It would also help if someone who knows the release build stuff could let me know whether or not this directory structure is simply splatted on to the disk at install time and then left alone, or whether any other parts of the install process rely on being able to find the files in particular locations under /usr/share/doc. Many thanks, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 13:50:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB55B14D69 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:50:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 11IeYj-0001K4-00; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:49:45 -0700 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:49:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Brandon Fosdick Cc: Mike Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual Boot on a 20GB HDD? In-Reply-To: <001201beecce$02f0b4a0$63dc0281@umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Brandon Fosdick wrote: > > > System: PIII-600 128MB RAM 20GB HDD on an Asus P3B-F mboard > > > OS's: Win98, FBSD 3.2-R > > > > > > I already have two dos slices that take up the first 15GB of the drive > so I > > > tried installing FBSD at the end of the disk. The installation went fine > but > > > it won't boot into FBSD. When I hit F3 at boot-up to select FBSD I get a > > > console beep and nothing happens. Hitting the F1 key takes it right into > > > windoze w/o any problems. I've already tried updating the BIOS on the > > > mboard. Is there a limitation in FBSD (or BootMgr) that prevents booting > to > > > a slice at the 15GB point? > > > > This is a BIOS limitation; you can't (easily) boot anything beyond the > > 1024 cylinder limit. > > My old machine booted from somewhere in the 14000's. It had a BIOS from > 1997. This new machine has a BIOS from 8/17/99. That's why I think this has > something to do with FBSD. I sent a message to Asus just to make sure it's > not a problem with the BIOS. Definitely not. If you use LBA, cylinders are re-mapped. If you use LARGE, they are not. The BIOS can't easy boot anything beyond 1024 cylinders. If you use LBA, that means you can boot FBSD within the 8.4GB limit. I don't think it is possible to boot anything beyond 8.4GB. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 14: 9:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (alecto.physics.uiuc.edu [130.126.8.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E945214C48 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:09:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu) Received: (from igor@localhost) by alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) id QAA19477; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:08:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Igor Roshchin Message-Id: <199908222108.QAA19477@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: multiple machines in the same network In-Reply-To: from "Chris Dillon" at "Aug 22, 1999 1:34:47 am" To: cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us (Chris Dillon) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:08:21 -0500 (CDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Wes Peters wrote: > > > You obviously didn't follow the links. The HP ProCurve I mentioned is $1880 > > for 40 switched 10/100 ports with layer 3 functionality and VLAN support. > > That's $47 port port, much lower than your $250/port, with a LOT more performance > > also. The Tolly Group recently tested it and found it capable of sustaining > > full wire speed on all 40 ports. I'll just be your PCI-bus box isn't going > > to hit 4 Gbps throughput. > This is far away from the original question, but I just was told by my friend who bought 3 such switches just a few months ago, that the _rebate_ _ended_ at the end of _June_ (unless they started a new one). Also, HP is rather slow on rebates - he still hasn't received anything from HP. However he like these switches so far, and recommended it to me even at their original price. Igor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 15: 2:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E10014FB9 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:02:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA84103; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:02:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:02:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: Igor Roshchin Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multiple machines in the same network In-Reply-To: <199908222108.QAA19477@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Wes Peters wrote: > > > > > You obviously didn't follow the links. The HP ProCurve I mentioned is $1880 > > > for 40 switched 10/100 ports with layer 3 functionality and VLAN support. > > > That's $47 port port, much lower than your $250/port, with a LOT more performance > > > also. The Tolly Group recently tested it and found it capable of sustaining > > > full wire speed on all 40 ports. I'll just be your PCI-bus box isn't going > > > to hit 4 Gbps throughput. > > > > > This is far away from the original question, but I just was told > by my friend who bought 3 such switches just a few months ago, > that the _rebate_ _ended_ at the end of _June_ (unless they started a new one). > Also, HP is rather slow on rebates - he still hasn't received anything > from HP. However he like these switches so far, and recommended it to me > even at their original price. I think they started up another one that is good till the end of this month. Usually what rebates mean, though, is that they are planning to slash the retail price soon. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development). ( http://www.freebsd.org ) "One should admire Windows users. It takes a great deal of courage to trust Windows with your data." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 15:51:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from po3.glue.umd.edu (po3.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418EF1560E for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Received: from poseidon (poseidon.student.umd.edu [129.2.220.99]) by po3.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA10112; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 18:31:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000201beecee$0d6be920$63dc0281@umd.edu> From: "Brandon Fosdick" To: Cc: Subject: PNIC Problems Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 18:31:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just got a Netgear FBSD Version: 3.2-Release (dnloaded -Current if_pn.c, if_pnreg.h) rcsid string: $Id: if_pn.c,v 1.6.2.11 1999/05/28 18:53:34 wpaul Exp $ System: PIII-600 NIC: Netgear FA310TX REV-D2 (LC82C169C) (Add-in card) DMESG: pn0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> rev 0x20 int a irq 255 on pci0.11.0 pn0: couldn't map ports Problem: See DMESG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 15:52:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from po4.glue.umd.edu (po4.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF90915425 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:52:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Received: from poseidon (poseidon.student.umd.edu [129.2.220.99]) by po4.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA14028; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 18:48:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000301beecf0$68c80e00$63dc0281@umd.edu> From: "Brandon Fosdick" To: Cc: Subject: Netgear PNIC Problems Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 18:48:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My new Netgear network card seems to have a problem. I noticed that the Lite-on chip is a '169C and the drivers only mention a '169B. I don't know much about setting up PCI cards so I just plugged the card in and this is as far as I got. Below is the information on my computer. Can you help me out? Let me know if you need more info. Thanks, Brandon bfoz@glue.umd.edu FBSD Version: 3.2-Release (dnloaded -Current if_pn.c, if_pnreg.h) rcsid string: $Id: if_pn.c,v 1.6.2.11 1999/05/28 18:53:34 wpaul Exp $ System: iPIII-600 NIC: Netgear FA310TX REV-D2 (LC82C169C) (Add-in card) DMESG: pn0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> rev 0x20 int a irq 255 on pci0.11.0 pn0: couldn't map ports Problem: See DMESG. boot -v: found-> vendor=0x11ad, dev=0x0002, revid=0x20 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=255 map[0]: type 4, range 32, base 0000d000, size 8 map[1]: type 1, range 32, base e3000000, size 8 pn0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> rev 0x20 int a irq 255 on pci0.11.0 pn0: couldn't map ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 16:37:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D1514BDE for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:37:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kenndc@cyberdude.com) Received: from [195.8.80.164] (helo=kenn) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11IhAH-0002q6-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 00:36:42 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990823003538.007b8050@pop.clara.net> X-Sender: kenn@pop.clara.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 00:35:38 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Kenn D Crossley Subject: HELP! please Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG firstly: i can spell unix but that is the limit to my expertise! secondly: i would like to be able to process more SETI@home data than i do at present thirdly: i have enough left-over bits from previous upgrades to, almost, make two pc's (AMD K6 200 & Cyrix P150) but they would have very little ram (16Mb for one and i would need to buy some for the other) and very, very little hard drive space (345Mb & 245Mb). obviously, i need to think about an operating system other than those available from M$!! forthly: i would like to spend as little as possible on these extra machines and as i get, virtually, free downloads each saturday i would prefer not to pay for the release cd question 1: is FreeBSD the best operating system for simply running SETI@home data (given the limited spec machines available)?? or should i look for a different hat to wear?? question 2: after reading some of the docs, i've downloaded the bin, floppies & XF86334 directories from the following location, are these all i need to install and run FreeBSD? current.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/3.2-19990820-STABLE/bin/ what else do i need?? what else would be nice/a big help??? question 3: how often do i need to download this amount of data? what do i need to download on a regular basis and how often? question 4: does anyone know if is possible to download the SETI@home data using Win98 then transfer it on a floppy to FreeBSD (i currently do this between two win98 systems as the kids machine does not have a modem) or would at least one of the FreeBSD machines need an internet connection? question 5: how little FreeBSD would i need to learn to do what i'm trying to do? question 6: am i going about this all wrong and should i be trying to achieve my goal (to process as much SETI data as possible) in a totally different way? question 7: is there any other advice anyone would like to pass on thanks for your time, best regards, kenn please reply to: kenndc@cyberdude.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 17:12:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B8614DBB for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:12:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from ispro.net.tr (dyn-0-190.tku.netti.fi [195.16.223.191]) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA66992; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 03:12:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Message-ID: <37C0917D.72229E47@ispro.net.tr> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 03:10:37 +0300 From: Evren Yurtesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kenn D Crossley , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HELP! please References: <3.0.5.32.19990823003538.007b8050@pop.clara.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG answer to question 1; the machines would be enough for setiathome I guess I have never used it though here is some information quoted from the ports docs. The best part is you can download the already compiled binaries and install easily :) http://www.freebsd.org/ports/astro.html#setiathome-1.2 >setiathome will run at nice level 1 by default, with a single process. >If you are running a SMP system and therefore would like to run one >process per CPU, or would like setiathome to run under another user ID, >you have to set it up manually. > >setiathome requires about 0.5 MBytes disk space in its working >directory, and about 12 MBytes of memory. If you have ample physical >memory, it's work load should be almost undetectable. > >setiathome is a binary distribution currently available for FreeBSD >2.2.6, 2.2.7, 2.2.8, 3.1, and 4.0. Newer versions of FreeBSD should be able >to run older binaries. though with 16MB you are on the limits, I am not sure how would your computers performance would be if you use X with them. answer to question 2 see this page http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ26.html#26 quoted from the page; >If you need to download the distributions yourself (for a DOS >filesystem install, for instance), below are some recommendations >for distributions to grab: > > bin/ > manpages/ > compat*/ > doc/ > src/ssys.* answer to question 3; for the upgrades, FreeBSD has a new release every 3-4 months but you do not have to upgrade it everytime though...there are 2 kinds of upgrade for the first one you should download the same kind of files you have downloaded for installation and install them with the upgrade function in the sysinstall utility. the second one is source upgrade but for this one you should have all the sources downloaded (you do this for once only) then you can use cvsup to upgrade for the upgrades you usually wont need to download more than 10MB(MAX!) you can find more information about upgrades at handbook see; http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cutting-edge.html about the question 4 it is not exactly related about FreeBSD if the setiathome program is allowing you to give the data files to it from an external source else than internet, then you can. (I have no clue about this since I did not use setiathome) answer to question 5 you need to learn installing freebsd and a few other things :) like pkg_add for installing packages(for example setiathome) though it is very simple, and mounting floppy and so. you can learn them in a few hours easily. (and we are here to help :) answer to question 6 I believe with freebsd you can process setiathome data faster than you do with win98 but how much faster? I do not know :( answer to question 7 I do not have any more advices sorry :( is there anything I missed or I could not make clear enough? (BTW thanks for choosing FreeBSD :) Evren Kenn D Crossley wrote: > > firstly: i can spell unix but that is the limit to my expertise! > > secondly: i would like to be able to process more SETI@home data than i do > at present > > thirdly: i have enough left-over bits from previous upgrades to, almost, > make two pc's (AMD K6 200 & Cyrix P150) but they would have very little ram > (16Mb for one and i would need to buy some for the other) and very, very > little hard drive space (345Mb & 245Mb). obviously, i need to think about > an operating system other than those available from M$!! > > forthly: i would like to spend as little as possible on these extra > machines and as i get, virtually, free downloads each saturday i would > prefer not to pay for the release cd > > question 1: is FreeBSD the best operating system for simply running > SETI@home data (given the limited spec machines available)?? > > or should i look for a different hat to wear?? > > question 2: after reading some of the docs, i've downloaded the bin, > floppies & XF86334 directories from the following location, are these all i > need to install and run FreeBSD? > current.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/3.2-19990820-STABLE/bin/ > > what else do i need?? > > what else would be nice/a big help??? > > question 3: how often do i need to download this amount of data? > > what do i need to download on a regular basis and how often? > > question 4: does anyone know if is possible to download the SETI@home data > using Win98 then transfer it on a floppy to FreeBSD (i currently do this > between two win98 systems as the kids machine does not have a modem) > > or would at least one of the FreeBSD machines need an internet connection? > > question 5: how little FreeBSD would i need to learn to do what i'm trying > to do? > > question 6: am i going about this all wrong and should i be trying to > achieve my goal (to process as much SETI data as possible) in a totally > different way? > > question 7: is there any other advice anyone would like to pass on > > thanks for your time, > best regards, > kenn > > please reply to: > kenndc@cyberdude.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 17:41: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEAD154D6 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:40:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40332>; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:19:27 +1000 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:39:31 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: HELP! please In-reply-to: <37C0917D.72229E47@ispro.net.tr> To: yurtesen@ispro.net.tr Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99Aug23.101927est.40332@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Evren Yurtesen wrote: >>directory, and about 12 MBytes of memory. My experience suggests 13.5-14MB. >though with 16MB you are on the limits, Beyond the limit actually. Based on my general experiences with `large' processes on a 20MB system, I'd say 20MB would be the bare minimum - probably 24MB if you don't have the skills to rebuild the kernel and tweak the running daemons to minimise the system memory footprint. It's essential that you have enough RAM to prevent setiathome paging. > I am not sure how would your >computers performance would be if you use X with them. I'd add another 16MB at least if you planned to use X. Running setiathome has a noticable impact on my 64MB system when combined with X and Netscape. Note that X is unnecessary for a dedicated system. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 17:48: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C3D15410 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:47:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7DC401C0E; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:48:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA383826; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:48:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:48:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Brandon Fosdick Cc: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PNIC Problems In-Reply-To: <000201beecee$0d6be920$63dc0281@umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Brandon Fosdick wrote: > pn0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> rev 0x20 int a irq 255 on pci0.11.0 > pn0: couldn't map ports Turn off PnP. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 22:26:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7782515604; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:26:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11ImcS-000BEX-00; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:26:08 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: mi@aldan.algebra.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installworld : problem 1 (softupdates) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:54:41 MST." <19990820145441.A62433@nuxi.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:26:08 +0200 Message-ID: <43184.935385968@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:54:41 MST, "David O'Brien" wrote: > Softupdates doesn't buy you anything on reads -- just writes. So unless > you have it turned on for / because /tmp is on /, you aren't getting > anything out of softupdates than frustration. Does softupdates score you something over MFS for /tmp ? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 23:15:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE10A1558C for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:15:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfh@jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de) Received: (from jfh@localhost) by jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA18618; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:15:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jfh) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: making myrease after installworld only when using cvs From: Fritz Heinrichmeyer Date: 23 Aug 1999 08:15:34 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070095 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.95) XEmacs/21.1 (Big Bend) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the impression that the Makefile for making a release depends on a CVS-archive at hand. It seems that it does not work with a "cvsup-ed" source tree. -- Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://ES-i2.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 23:21:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23AC1562B for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:21:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13515; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:50:57 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990823155057:19113=_"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:50:57 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Fritz Heinrichmeyer Subject: RE: making myrease after installworld only when using cvs Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990823155057:19113=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 23-Aug-99 Fritz Heinrichmeyer wrote: > I had the impression that the Makefile for making a release depends on > a CVS-archive at hand. It seems that it does not work with a "cvsup-ed" > source tree. It checks out a copy of the source tree to be build and then builds it and installs it in a chrooted directory. It then packages up the binaries and splits them. You can cvsup the repository, which is handy if you have both stable and current machines. Or you want to do make release :) Also unless you have the ports cvs repo you'll want to define NODOCS=YES NOPORTS=YES when doing make release. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990823155057:19113=_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBN8DoSVbYW/HEoF9pAQHzAQP+IgqQHJ81sFjK6GtMKoJ+jc1Awew0fjaG LXnooDUXzg6Kqt3AHOog+b2i0WCiVrVzFDTe1eWph94MXpAgxQ73HbLDtJxzl6uo rTs4NNELym0Es/UYwsIRgi9bfONUaEsIGDzo8Kz1jyHBC8s2+PP2Cu28D7Gp/vlh Ldve4mAv7U0= =09V5 -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990823155057:19113=_-- End of MIME message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 23:33:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ren.detir.qld.gov.au (ns.detir.qld.gov.au [203.46.81.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA2714D87; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:33:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au) Received: by ren.detir.qld.gov.au; id QAA28762; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:32:25 +1000 (EST) Received: from ogre.detir.qld.gov.au(167.123.8.3) by ren.detir.qld.gov.au via smap (3.2) id xma028734; Mon, 23 Aug 99 16:32:19 +1000 Received: from atlas.detir.qld.gov.au (atlas.detir.qld.gov.au [167.123.8.9]) by ogre.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA02017; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:32:18 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (nymph.detir.qld.gov.au [167.123.10.10]) by atlas.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19261; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:32:18 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (localhost.detir.qld.gov.au [127.0.0.1]) by nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA07992; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:32:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from syssgm@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au) Message-Id: <199908230632.QAA07992@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au> To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, mi@aldan.algebra.com, syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au Subject: Re: installworld : problem 1 (softupdates) References: <43184.935385968@axl.noc.iafrica.com> In-Reply-To: <43184.935385968@axl.noc.iafrica.com> from Sheldon Hearn at "Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:26:08 +0200" Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:32:16 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 23rd August 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: >On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:54:41 MST, "David O'Brien" wrote: > >> Softupdates doesn't buy you anything on reads -- just writes. So unless >> you have it turned on for / because /tmp is on /, you aren't getting >> anything out of softupdates than frustration. > >Does softupdates score you something over MFS for /tmp ? Possibly. Because MFS pretends to be a real disk you often have 2 copies of any block in memory, one for the MFS "disk", and one for the "in core" copy. You wouldn't have that problem with softupdates. But, softupdates uses memory to keep track of the before and after versions of things, so it's hard to tell if you would win. Try it. :-) By the way, I use MFS for /tmp and don't use softupdates for root. Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 22 23:39:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA61414D87 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:39:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (iras-3-54.ucdavis.edu [169.237.17.54]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA14121; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:39:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA08843; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:39:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:39:27 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: mi@aldan.algebra.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installworld : problem 1 (softupdates) Message-ID: <19990822233927.D8305@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <19990820145441.A62433@nuxi.com> <43184.935385968@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <43184.935385968@axl.noc.iafrica.com>; from Sheldon Hearn on Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 07:26:08AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Softupdates doesn't buy you anything on reads -- just writes. So unless > > you have it turned on for / because /tmp is on /, you aren't getting > > anything out of softupdates than frustration. > > Does softupdates score you something over MFS for /tmp ? Nope. MFS's are async by default. One of the big advantages of softupdates is the speed of full async mounts, with the stability of sync mounts. With an MFS, you newfs at every reboot, so you don't care if a crash pukes on your fs. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 0:52:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (nhj.nlc.net.au [203.24.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEC1415020 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 00:52:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john.saunders@nlc.net.au) Received: (qmail 29964 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Aug 1999 17:49:58 +1000 From: "John Saunders" Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:49:58 +1000 (EST) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: NTP daemon and Y2K issues Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I noticed that -stable is running xntpd 3.4e and possible -current is the same (although I can't check at the moment). The following was sent to a sysadmin mailing list (SAGE-AU). -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 04-1822-3814 (Phone) | \_,--\_/ | NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS P/L - Supplying a professional, | v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | +------------------------------------------------------------+ Just when you thought it was safe ... For those of you feeling quite happy running XNTP version 3.x, you might want to upgrade to the latest NTP (currently 4.0.97) to be squeaky clean with your Y2K team. There have been changes made to the source after the AT&T Labs "Freeware Y2K Certification Project" had been at it. >From the file NOTES.y2kfixes in the top level source directory: 1) Errors were found in improper use of tm_year within struct tm, calculations that did not support year 2000 as a leap year (it truly is, despite any unchanged comments remaining in the NTP source), and some incorrect date calculations, while not traditional Y2K errors, would break in the year 2000. 2) include/ntpd.h Added some definitions and documentation about the right way of doing things. Definitions used by most, if not all, of the Y2K repairs. Not huge changes, but there probably will be a problem. For those that just want to check the relevant files, you can check the online CVS repository at http://maccarony.ntp.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ntp/ Please note that the SAGE-AU mirror only has XNTP 3.x, so you will need to go further afield until NTP 4 is being mirrored. John Warburton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 1: 9:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from enya.clari.net.au (enya.clari.net.au [203.8.14.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F58814D49; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 01:09:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danny@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (danny@localhost) by enya.clari.net.au (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA32068; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:08:56 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from danny@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: enya.clari.net.au: danny owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:08:56 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" X-Sender: danny@enya.clari.net.au To: John Saunders Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTP daemon and Y2K issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, John Saunders wrote: > I noticed that -stable is running xntpd 3.4e and possible -current is the I y2k-fixed xntpd in FreeBSD in January. Have a look at CVS log for src/usr.sbin/xntpd/parse/util/dcfd.c 1.6 Tue Jan 12 19:37:30 1999 UTC by danny CVS Tags: RELENG_3_2_PAO_BP, RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE, RELENG_3_1_0_RELEASE, RELENG_3_BP, HEAD, RELENG_3, RELENG_3_2_PAO Diffs to 1.5 Fix leap year calculations, including 2000. The code was broken for all years! Reviewed by: , To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 4: 2:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mpp.pro-ns.net (pppdsle70.mpls.uswest.net [216.160.23.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A601560A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:02:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.pro-ns.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA15287; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:02:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mpp) From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199908231102.GAA15287@mpp.pro-ns.net> Subject: Re: HELP! please In-Reply-To: <37C0917D.72229E47@ispro.net.tr> from Evren Yurtesen at "Aug 23, 1999 03:10:37 am" To: yurtesen@ispro.net.tr (Evren Yurtesen) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:02:00 -0500 (CDT) Cc: kenndc@cyberdude.com (Kenn D Crossley), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >setiathome requires about 0.5 MBytes disk space in its working > >directory, and about 12 MBytes of memory. If you have ample physical > >memory, it's work load should be almost undetectable. > > though with 16MB you are on the limits, I am not sure how would your > computers performance would be if you use X with them. I have seti@home running on a couple of low-end Pentiums with 16MB of RAM. Over the past week or so seti@home has been the only thing running on them. They are always swapping. From looking at the stats, I need to free up about 1 more MB of memory to make them swap free. I do have a partially stripped down kernel on both machines. But I've only had these two machine for a few weeks, and they were cobbled together, so I figure this is at least a minor stress test for them. Overall, due to the swapping, the seti program eats up 75% or so of the CPU. The overhead of all the swapping they are doing is eating up the other 25% (and most of that is probably waiting for the swapin/outs, so I'm probably collecting some idle time even with seti running). I think I can get things stripped down enough so that they won't swap, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.ORG or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 6:52:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF3D14C48 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:52:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id PAA02282; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:35:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA48023; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:01:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199908231301.PAA48023@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: making myrease after installworld only when using cvs In-Reply-To: from Fritz Heinrichmeyer at "Aug 23, 1999 8:15:34 am" To: fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de (Fritz Heinrichmeyer) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:01:48 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Fritz Heinrichmeyer wrote ... > > I had the impression that the Makefile for making a release depends on > a CVS-archive at hand. It seems that it does not work with a "cvsup-ed" > source tree. Correct observation. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 8:21: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcpsj.pfcs.com (harlan.clark.net [168.143.10.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D11714D21; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:20:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com) Received: from mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11] (HELO mumps.pfcs.com) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) via ESMTP id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:19:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brown.pfcs.com [192.52.69.44] (HELO brown.pfcs.com) by mumps.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.pfcs.com [127.0.0.1] (HELO brown.pfcs.com) by brown.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:19:14 -0400 (EDT) To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" Cc: John Saunders , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NTP daemon and Y2K issues In-Reply-To: "Daniel O'Callaghan"'s (danny@FreeBSD.ORG) message dated Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:08:56. X-Face: "csXK}xnnsH\h_ce`T#|pM]tG,6Xu.{3Rb\]&XJgVyTS'w{E+|-(}n:c(Cc* $cbtusxDP6T)Hr'k&zrwq0.3&~bAI~YJco[r.mE+K|(q]F=ZNXug:s6tyOk{VTqARy0#axm6BWti9C d User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.7 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Y?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=1B=2ED=8E=FEzaki?=) XEmacs/21.1 (20 Minutes to Nikko) (i386-unknown-freebsd2.2.8) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:19:14 -0400 Message-ID: <14766.935421554@brown.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG dcfd is only used for some parse clock applications. There were a number of other Y2K-type changes made by the AT&T patch. Also, a *huge* number of bugfixes and improvements have been made to the NTP code since xntp3.4anything. H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 9:52: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shrimp.baynetworks.com (ns4.BayNetworks.COM [192.32.253.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343F214D80 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:52:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkephart@nortelnetworks.com) Received: from mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (h8754.s84f5.BayNetworks.COM [132.245.135.84]) by shrimp.baynetworks.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13402 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:48:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.corpeast.BayNetworks.COM (ns3.corpeast.baynetworks.com [132.245.135.91]) by mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11886 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bl-mail2.corpeast.BayNetworks.com (bl-mail2-hme0.corpeast.baynetworks.com [132.245.135.83]) by mailhost.corpeast.BayNetworks.COM (SMI-8.6/BNET-97/05/05-S) with SMTP id MAA01117; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:51:22 -0400 for Received: from nortelnetworks.com ([132.245.112.179]) by bl-mail2.corpeast.BayNetworks.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-51848U14000L14000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:50:13 -0400 Message-ID: <37C17BF5.157CD4F2@nortelnetworks.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:51:02 -0500 From: Mike Kephart Reply-To: mkephart@nortelnetworks.com Organization: Nortel Networks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: mSQL getting stuck in objtrm state Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm running 3.2-STABLE from a CVSUP of the evening of 8/17. For several months I've been running a Perl5 + DBI/DBD script which exercises mSQL pretty well using around 15 fork()ed processes reading from and writing to the database. Since this last update to STABLE, I've been seeing the mSQL daemon (msql2d) getting stuck in objtrm state, and I'm forced to reboot to clean up. I'm running mSQL binaries and library built under 3.2-RELEASE. Anybody else seen anything like this recently? (The archives show "objtrm" problems in CURRENT several months ago, but seems unrelated) Can anyone suggest methods of getting a better understanding of the problem? Can anyone speculate on whether this is really something "interesting" to those running STABLE or whether this really seems to be a personal problem? Thanks, MikeK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 10:35:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trooper.velocet.ca (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D21514FB4 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:35:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@trooper.velocet.ca) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by trooper.velocet.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA57092; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:34:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14273.34327.590896.433108@trooper.velocet.ca> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:34:15 -0400 (EDT) To: mkephart@nortelnetworks.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mSQL getting stuck in objtrm state In-Reply-To: <37C17BF5.157CD4F2@nortelnetworks.com> References: <37C17BF5.157CD4F2@nortelnetworks.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Kephart writes: Mike> Since this last update to STABLE, I've been seeing the mSQL Mike> daemon (msql2d) getting stuck in objtrm state, and I'm forced to Mike> reboot to clean up. I'm running mSQL binaries and library built Mike> under 3.2-RELEASE. I witnessed this 'objtrm' state locking up netscape this weekend. I cvsup'd Saturday morning. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 11:42:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCB115021; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.1/frmug-2.3/nospam) with UUCP id UAA00587; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:41:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix, from userid 101) id A806C870A; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:37:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:37:38 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: Harlan Stenn Cc: "Daniel O'Callaghan" , John Saunders , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NTP daemon and Y2K issues Message-ID: <19990823193738.A19091@keltia.freenix.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Harlan Stenn , Daniel O'Callaghan , John Saunders , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <14766.935421554@brown.pfcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <14766.935421554@brown.pfcs.com>; from Harlan Stenn on Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 11:19:14AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT/ELF ctm#5543 AMD-K6 MMX @ 200 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Harlan Stenn: > Also, a *huge* number of bugfixes and improvements have been made to the NTP > code since xntp3.4anything. I plan to upgrade CURRENT up to 4.0.97 soon. I don't run STABLE at all and we're too close to 3.3 to change anything in it. Maybe for 3.4. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 4.0-CURRENT #73: Sat Jul 31 15:36:05 CEST 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 12:56:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BC414C58 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:56:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA08397; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:54:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990823155309.01ea6180@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:53:09 -0400 To: Ollivier Robert , Harlan Stenn From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: NTP daemon and Y2K issues Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990823193738.A19091@keltia.freenix.fr> References: <14766.935421554@brown.pfcs.com> <14766.935421554@brown.pfcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07:37 PM 8/23/99 +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote: >According to Harlan Stenn: >> Also, a *huge* number of bugfixes and improvements have been made to the NTP >> code since xntp3.4anything. > >I plan to upgrade CURRENT up to 4.0.97 soon. I don't run STABLE at all and >we're too close to 3.3 to change anything in it. Maybe for 3.4. Will 3.4 come out before Jan 1 ? Also, any chance of backporting the fixes RELENG2_2 ? I imagine quite a few people still use the 2.2 branch ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 13:19:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcpsj.pfcs.com (harlan.clark.net [168.143.10.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A3A15064 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:19:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com) Received: from mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11] (HELO mumps.pfcs.com) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) via ESMTP id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:17:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brown.pfcs.com [192.52.69.44] (HELO brown.pfcs.com) by mumps.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.pfcs.com [127.0.0.1] (HELO brown.pfcs.com) by brown.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:17:11 -0400 (EDT) To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Ollivier Robert , Harlan Stenn , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NTP daemon and Y2K issues In-Reply-To: Mike Tancsa's (mike@sentex.net) message dated Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:53:09. <3.0.5.32.19990823155309.01ea6180@staff.sentex.ca> X-Face: "csXK}xnnsH\h_ce`T#|pM]tG,6Xu.{3Rb\]&XJgVyTS'w{E+|-(}n:c(Cc* $cbtusxDP6T)Hr'k&zrwq0.3&~bAI~YJco[r.mE+K|(q]F=ZNXug:s6tyOk{VTqARy0#axm6BWti9C d User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.7 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Y?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=1B=2ED=8E=FEzaki?=) XEmacs/21.1 (20 Minutes to Nikko) (i386-unknown-freebsd2.2.8) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:17:11 -0400 Message-ID: <15074.935439431@brown.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG H> Also, a *huge* number of bugfixes and improvements have been made to the H> NTP code since xntp3.4anything. 1> I plan to upgrade CURRENT up to 4.0.97 soon. I don't run STABLE at all 1> and we're too close to 3.3 to change anything in it. Maybe for 3.4. 2> Will 3.4 come out before Jan 1 ? Also, any chance of 2> backporting the fixes RELENG2_2 ? I imagine quite a few people 2> still use the 2.2 branch The stock NTP distribution should compile and run out-of-the-box. H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 13:27:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.skylink.it (ns.skylink.it [194.177.113.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A933914CC0; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:27:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n_hibma@skylink.it) Received: from heidi.plazza.it (va-148.skylink.it [194.185.55.148]) by ns.skylink.it (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA13067; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:27:31 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heidi.plazza.it (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00395; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:12:00 GMT X-No-Spam: Neither the receipients nor the senders email address(s) are to be used for Unsolicited (Commercial) Email without the explicit written consent of either party; as a per-message fee is incurred for inbound and outbound traffic to the originator. Posted-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:12:00 GMT Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:12:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@heidi.plazza.it Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Ollivier Robert Cc: Harlan Stenn , "Daniel O'Callaghan" , John Saunders , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NTP daemon and Y2K issues In-Reply-To: <19990823193738.A19091@keltia.freenix.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For your information: the patch supplied was not in xntpd-3.5f-3. So you might want to repatch after importing. Nick > According to Harlan Stenn: > > Also, a *huge* number of bugfixes and improvements have been made to the NTP > > code since xntp3.4anything. > > I plan to upgrade CURRENT up to 4.0.97 soon. I don't run STABLE at all and > we're too close to 3.3 to change anything in it. Maybe for 3.4. > -- > Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr > FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 4.0-CURRENT #73: Sat Jul 31 15:36:05 CEST 1999 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > -- e-Mail: hibma@skylink.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 13:32:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcpsj.pfcs.com (harlan.clark.net [168.143.10.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422F71527D; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:32:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com) Received: from mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11] (HELO mumps.pfcs.com) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) via ESMTP id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brown.pfcs.com [192.52.69.44] (HELO brown.pfcs.com) by mumps.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.pfcs.com [127.0.0.1] (HELO brown.pfcs.com) by brown.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:32:16 -0400 (EDT) To: Nick Hibma Cc: Ollivier Robert , Harlan Stenn , "Daniel O'Callaghan" , John Saunders , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NTP daemon and Y2K issues In-Reply-To: Nick Hibma's (n_hibma@skylink.it) message dated Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:12:00. X-Face: "csXK}xnnsH\h_ce`T#|pM]tG,6Xu.{3Rb\]&XJgVyTS'w{E+|-(}n:c(Cc* $cbtusxDP6T)Hr'k&zrwq0.3&~bAI~YJco[r.mE+K|(q]F=ZNXug:s6tyOk{VTqARy0#axm6BWti9C d User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.7 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Y?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=1B=2ED=8E=FEzaki?=) XEmacs/21.1 (20 Minutes to Nikko) (i386-unknown-freebsd2.2.8) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:32:16 -0400 Message-ID: <15120.935440336@brown.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you are saying that FreeBSD has patches to ntp that are missing from ntp4, please submit them to UDel. Don't bother sending patches that only fix problems with ntp3; ntp3 is no longer supported. ntp-4.1.0 should be available in a few weeks. I'm waiting for some portability patches to settle down, some minor NT cleanup, and perhaps some parse code cleanup before making the release. H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 13:58:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.skylink.it (ns.skylink.it [194.177.113.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2371B14CD3; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:58:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n_hibma@skylink.it) Received: from heidi.plazza.it (va-148.skylink.it [194.185.55.148]) by ns.skylink.it (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA13641; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:57:24 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heidi.plazza.it (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00541; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:49:11 GMT X-No-Spam: Neither the receipients nor the senders email address(s) are to be used for Unsolicited (Commercial) Email without the explicit written consent of either party; as a per-message fee is incurred for inbound and outbound traffic to the originator. Posted-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:49:11 GMT Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:49:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@heidi.plazza.it Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Harlan Stenn Cc: Ollivier Robert , "Daniel O'Callaghan" , John Saunders , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NTP daemon and Y2K issues In-Reply-To: <15120.935440336@brown.pfcs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've submitted patches for 3, but the patch applies to the GPS input filters, so I assume they can be ported. If not, pitty. Nick On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Harlan Stenn wrote: > If you are saying that FreeBSD has patches to ntp that are missing from > ntp4, please submit them to UDel. > > Don't bother sending patches that only fix problems with ntp3; ntp3 is no > longer supported. > > ntp-4.1.0 should be available in a few weeks. I'm waiting for some > portability patches to settle down, some minor NT cleanup, and perhaps some > parse code cleanup before making the release. > > H > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > -- e-Mail: hibma@skylink.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 15:12:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72DA14CC0 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:12:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.3/frmug-2.5/nospam) with UUCP id AAA10178 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:11:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix, from userid 101) id E8A3E885E; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:36:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:36:14 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NTP daemon and Y2K issues Message-ID: <19990823233614.A26748@keltia.freenix.fr> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <14766.935421554@brown.pfcs.com> <14766.935421554@brown.pfcs.com> <19990823193738.A19091@keltia.freenix.fr> <3.0.5.32.19990823155309.01ea6180@staff.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990823155309.01ea6180@staff.sentex.ca>; from Mike Tancsa on Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 03:53:09PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT/ELF ctm#5543 AMD-K6 MMX @ 200 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Mike Tancsa: > Will 3.4 come out before Jan 1 ? Also, any chance of backporting the fixes Maybe. As 3.3 is scheduled for mid-September, it may be possible for 3.4 to be out before but I wouldn't count on it. > RELENG2_2 ? I imagine quite a few people still use the 2.2 branch I don't run either STABLE or 2.2 and the changes are too big to be backported, I'm afraid. You can get ntpd 4.1 and install it. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 4.0-CURRENT #73: Sat Jul 31 15:36:05 CEST 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 15:41:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt010nb9.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8502E15891 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:41:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt010nb9.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15219; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:39:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:39:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt010nb9.san.rr.com To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Ollivier Robert , Harlan Stenn , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NTP daemon and Y2K issues In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990823155309.01ea6180@staff.sentex.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 07:37 PM 8/23/99 +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote: > >According to Harlan Stenn: > >> Also, a *huge* number of bugfixes and improvements have been made to the > NTP > >> code since xntp3.4anything. > > > >I plan to upgrade CURRENT up to 4.0.97 soon. I don't run STABLE at all and > >we're too close to 3.3 to change anything in it. Maybe for 3.4. > > > Will 3.4 come out before Jan 1 ? Also, any chance of backporting the fixes > RELENG2_2 ? I imagine quite a few people still use the 2.2 branch Changing to a different version of NTP in the 2.2 branch would violate a lot of freebsd development guidelines. What you want to do is upgrade to 3.2-Stable then run the verion of [x]ntpd that suits your fancy. They should all compile right out of the box. Good luck, Doug -- "My mama told me, my mama said, 'don't cry.' 'She said you're too young a man to have as many women you got.' I looked at my mother dear and didn't even crack a smile. I said, 'If women kill me, I don't mind dyin!'" - John Belushi as "Joliet" Jake Blues, "I Don't Know" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 20:18:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBAF14D27; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:18:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id FAA16510; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:13:43 +0200 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id FAA02349; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:11:38 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:11:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: Juergen Lock Message-Id: <199908240311.FAA02349@saturn.kn-bremen.de> To: scrappy@hub.org Subject: Re: 3.2-STABLE hangs after several hours ... X-Newsgroups: local.list.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: References: Organization: home Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, alc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article you write: > >Just got the serial console fixed, so if/when it happens again, I should >be able to get down to the debugger and get more/better information... > >In case anyone is looking at this, with as little info as there is here, >the last kernel updated was July 13th, so its between then and now that >the "bug" appears to have been introduced... > >More as it becomes available... I also went to update my kernel yesterday and stumbled across what appears to be the same problems as yours, hanging processes until the entire system becomes unusable... And here is what i came up with: Index: vm_object.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cvs/cvs/src/sys/vm/vm_object.h,v retrieving revision 1.51.2.1 diff -u -u -r1.51.2.1 vm_object.h --- vm_object.h 1999/07/29 05:38:57 1.51.2.1 +++ vm_object.h 1999/08/24 01:58:14 @@ -93,9 +93,9 @@ vm_size_t size; /* Object size */ int ref_count; /* How many refs?? */ int shadow_count; /* how many objects that this is a shadow for */ + int pg_color; /* color of first page in obj */ int id; /* ID for no purpose, other than info */ u_short flags; /* see below */ - u_short pg_color; /* color of first page in obj */ u_short paging_in_progress; /* Paging (in or out) so don't collapse or destroy */ u_short behavior; /* see below */ int resident_page_count; /* number of resident pages */ I'm not really sure why (some missing casts maybe?), but this seems to fix the hangs for me. My working kernel also was from July 13th btw (does that mean anything? :) until i tried several later ones and finally narrowed it down to this commit, alc 1999/07/28 22:38:59 PDT Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_3) sys/vm vm_object.c vm_object.h vm_page.c Log: MFC: Shrink vm_object's by (1) removing cache_count and wired_count and by (2) using u_short for pg_color. Revision Changes Path 1.138.2.5 +1 -3 src/sys/vm/vm_object.c 1.51.2.1 +2 -4 src/sys/vm/vm_object.h 1.116.2.2 +1 -26 src/sys/vm/vm_page.c I've Cc'd the author... Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 21:18:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E89214D9B; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:18:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA22660; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:46:25 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id NAA90397; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:46:23 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:46:23 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: FreeBSD Committers , FreeBSD Stable Users Subject: HEADS UP: Vinum RAID-5 in -STABLE Message-ID: <19990824134623.D83273@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just done a mega-MFC to bring Vinum up to date in -STABLE ahead of the 3.3 release. This includes the RAID-5 code recently released by Cybernet. I've tested all this in -CURRENT, of course, and it works fine. I've also tested it under -STABLE, and I haven't had any problems, but there are several thousand lines of diffs, so there's a chance that I may have missed something. If you have any trouble at all with Vinum under -STABLE, please let me know immediately. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 23 22:37:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rice.edu (cs.rice.edu [128.42.1.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A3C14D78 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:37:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alc@cs.rice.edu) Received: (from alc@localhost) by cs.rice.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) id AAA20304; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:37:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:37:49 -0500 From: Alan Cox To: Doug Rabson Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mSQL getting stuck in objtrm state (fwd) Message-ID: <19990824003749.C28920@cs.rice.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5us In-Reply-To: ; from Doug Rabson on Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 09:48:48PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I found the following "smoking gun" in the code generated for the vm_object_pip_subtract (atomic_subtract_short) in swap_pager_iodone: } else { vm_object_pip_subtract(object, spc->spc_count); if ((object->paging_in_progress == 0) && translates to ... 0xc01d5a96 : jmp 0xc01d5af6 0xc01d5a98 : movw 0x3c(%edx),%ax 0xc01d5a9c : subw 0x1c(%ebx),%ax 0xc01d5aa0 : movw %ax,0x3c(%edx) 0xc01d5aa4 : jne 0xc01d5ab9 I'm looking into backporting -CURRENT's atomic.h now. Alan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 5: 1:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from claret.cisco.com (claret.cisco.com [161.44.2.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1334614C57 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:01:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fty@cisco.com) Received: (fty@localhost) by claret.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/8.6.5) id HAA12418 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:59:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:59:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Terhaar-Yonkers Message-Id: <199908241159.HAA12418@claret.cisco.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: "Read-only file system" on un-mounted raw disk device? X-Face: ,fjtWiMPydUaSQl%8[eTg`u:^BXt&T)Sny(6w\*U"5D9H[Z$kG%Q/z;Z=NwrPiXf-aMF3R) Rsand$,]26-8>5@HD(A3A79gN|0%NHsdek4mT8E,>j+\w!~d2#nH;~NV!5a0"`5$Cj8d\or(Jy/JQ_ |uc;C[filmZ(~#lre*l:|O%d/PJFy`.5w8)sMZ-)QI3TaV"j'k X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Until I upgraded to 3.2 (recent sup) I could make a quick copy of the root fs via dd. Where and how is this attribute set? TIA - Frank dd if=/dev/rwd0s1a of=/dev/rwd1s1a dd: /dev/rwd1s1a: Read-only file system ls -l /dev/rwd1s1a crw-rw---- 1 root operator 3, 0x00020008 Aug 24 03:53 /dev/rwd1s1a \\\\////\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\ Frank Terhaar-Yonkers Cisco Systems, Inc. TISU/NSITE 7025 Kit Creek Road PO Box 14987 Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 fty@cisco.com voice(919)392-2101 fx(919)392-5600 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 5:50:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mproxy.zedo.fuedo.de (mproxy.zedo.fuedo.de [193.99.167.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFEA150F8 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:49:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hartung@zkom.de) Received: from master.zkom.de (master.zkom.de [193.99.166.6]) by mproxy.zedo.fuedo.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15999 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:46:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zkom.de (jack.zkom.de [193.99.166.10]) by master.zkom.de (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04453 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:46:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hartung@zkom.de) Message-ID: <37C29452.906A2288@zkom.de> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:47:15 +0200 From: Michael Hartung Organization: ZKOM GmbH, Germany, Fax: +49 (0) 231 9700474 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Kernel size Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, FreeBSD 3.1: "1514418 Apr 7 13:16 kernel" ( 2236663 Feb 15 1999 kernel.GENERIC ) FreeBSD 3.2: "7877424 Aug 24 12:41 kernel" ( 2329748 May 18 06:05 kernel.GENERIC ) The two kernel´s are based on exactly the same kernel configuration file. The smaller one was compiled on a 3.1 system, the bigger one on a 3.2 system. What is the reason for 6363006 Bytes difference? Thanks in advance. Michael -- Michael Hartung |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ZKOM GmbH | | State Diagnostics Systems | | and Computer Networks | | | | WWW: www.zkom.de (WebCam) | | | | Joseph-von-Fraunhofer Str. 20 | | D-44227 Dortmund | | Germany | | E-mail: hartung@zkom.de | | Phone: +49 (0)231 / 9700 336 | | Fax: +49 (0)231 / 9700 474 | | Mobile: +49 (0)172 / 67 70 522 | | | | AG Dortmund HRB 12918 | | Managing Director: Dipl.-Ing. Michael Hartung | |_______________________________________________| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 5:58:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E2C15118 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:58:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id NAA16753; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:56:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:56:35 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Michael Hartung Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel size Message-ID: <19990824135635.H62840@pavilion.net> References: <37C29452.906A2288@zkom.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <37C29452.906A2288@zkom.de>; from Michael Hartung on Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 02:47:15PM +0200 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, 24 The Old Steine, Brighton, BN1 1EL, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 02:47:15PM +0200, Michael Hartung wrote: > Hello, > > FreeBSD 3.1: "1514418 Apr 7 13:16 kernel" ( 2236663 Feb 15 1999 > kernel.GENERIC ) > > > FreeBSD 3.2: "7877424 Aug 24 12:41 kernel" ( 2329748 May 18 06:05 > kernel.GENERIC ) > > The two kernel´s are based on exactly the same > kernel configuration file. The smaller one was > compiled on a 3.1 system, the bigger one on a > 3.2 system. > > What is the reason for 6363006 Bytes difference? > > Thanks in advance. > > Michael > I believe that we now store the symbol table in the kernel to make it easier to debug if a user has a crash. I also believe that it only takes disk space and that the symbols aren't loaded into memory. A 'strip -g' on the kernel should remove them if you're really really worried though. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 9:42:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mproxy.zedo.fuedo.de (mproxy.zedo.fuedo.de [193.99.167.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721C215952; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:34:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hartung@zkom.de) Received: from master.zkom.de (master.zkom.de [193.99.166.6]) by mproxy.zedo.fuedo.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16893; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:48:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zkom.de (jack.zkom.de [193.99.166.10]) by master.zkom.de (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04907; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:48:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hartung@zkom.de) Message-ID: <37C2B0CB.660F495C@zkom.de> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:48:44 +0200 From: Michael Hartung Organization: ZKOM GmbH, Germany, Fax: +49 (0) 231 9700474 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: kernel size the second Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello again, - must be the symbol table stored in the kernel. - 'strip -g' on the kernel works. - "/usr/sbin/config" with "-g" or without does not make any difference. By the way, can we examine how much memory the kernel takes / needs? ( systat, vmstat etc. ... ) Thanks a lot. Michael -- Michael Hartung |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ZKOM GmbH | | State Diagnostics Systems | | and Computer Networks | | | | WWW: www.zkom.de (WebCam) | | | | Joseph-von-Fraunhofer Str. 20 | | D-44227 Dortmund | | Germany | | E-mail: hartung@zkom.de | | Phone: +49 (0)231 / 9700 336 | | Fax: +49 (0)231 / 9700 474 | | Mobile: +49 (0)172 / 67 70 522 | | | | AG Dortmund HRB 12918 | | Managing Director: Dipl.-Ing. Michael Hartung | |_______________________________________________| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 9:43:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from loki.ideaglobal.com (loki.ideaglobal.com [194.36.20.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5F115B04; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kiril@loki.ideaglobal.com) Received: (from kiril@localhost) by loki.ideaglobal.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA40005; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:45:47 GMT (envelope-from kiril) From: Kiril Mitev Message-Id: <199908241645.QAA40005@loki.ideaglobal.com> Subject: failure installing CVSUP .... To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:45:47 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry for the cross-post, I dont know which of -ports and -stable is more appropriate for this. running: (lines folded by me :-) pkg_add \ ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/CVSup/cvsup-bin-16.0.tar.gz produces: (lines folded by me :-) Requested space: 5584632 bytes, free space: 190273536 bytes in /var/tmp/instmp.g39996 tar: +CONTENTS not found in archive pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file `+CONTENTS' - not a package? pkg_add: 1 package addition(s) failed -- Kiril Mitev, IT Operations Mgr, London IDEAglobal.com Standard Corporate Disclaimer applies, see http://www.ideaglobal.com/email-disclaimer.html for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 10: 5:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED6F15B55; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:04:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id E3BA7F818; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57149B17; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:02:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@pawn.primelocation.net To: Kiril Mitev Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: failure installing CVSUP .... In-Reply-To: <199908241645.QAA40005@loki.ideaglobal.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Kiril Mitev wrote: > Sorry for the cross-post, I dont know which of -ports and -stable > is more appropriate for this. > > running: (lines folded by me :-) > > pkg_add \ > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/CVSup/cvsup-bin-16.0.tar.gz > > > produces: (lines folded by me :-) > > Requested space: 5584632 bytes, free space: 190273536 bytes > in /var/tmp/instmp.g39996 > tar: +CONTENTS not found in archive > pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file `+CONTENTS' - not a package? > pkg_add: 1 package addition(s) failed > Read the errors...that is not a package (note the tar.gz, *not* .tgz). You probably want: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/packages/All/cvsup-bin-16.0.tgz ----- Chris D. Faulhaber | All the true gurus I've met never System/Network Administrator, | claimed they were one, and always Reality Check Information, Inc. | pointed to someone better. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 10:15:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from loki.ideaglobal.com (loki.ideaglobal.com [194.36.20.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FA515987; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:06:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kiril@loki.ideaglobal.com) Received: (from kiril@localhost) by loki.ideaglobal.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA42786; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:13:46 GMT (envelope-from kiril) From: Kiril Mitev Message-Id: <199908241713.RAA42786@loki.ideaglobal.com> Subject: Re: failure installing CVSUP .... In-Reply-To: from "Chris D. Faulhaber" at "Aug 24, 1999 1: 2:47 pm" To: jedgar@fxp.org (Chris D. Faulhaber) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:13:46 +0000 (GMT) Cc: kiril@ideaglobal.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Kiril Mitev wrote: > > > Sorry for the cross-post, I dont know which of -ports and -stable > > is more appropriate for this. > > > > running: (lines folded by me :-) > > > > pkg_add \ > > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/CVSup/cvsup-bin-16.0.tar.gz > > > > > > produces: (lines folded by me :-) > > > > Requested space: 5584632 bytes, free space: 190273536 bytes > > in /var/tmp/instmp.g39996 > > tar: +CONTENTS not found in archive > > pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file `+CONTENTS' - not a package? > > pkg_add: 1 package addition(s) failed > > > > Read the errors...that is not a package (note the tar.gz, *not* .tgz). > You probably want: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/packages/All/cvsup-bin-16.0.tgz > > ----- > Chris D. Faulhaber | All the true gurus I've met never > System/Network Administrator, | claimed they were one, and always > Reality Check Information, Inc. | pointed to someone better. Indeed. Now if I could only find the www.freebsd.org web page that suggested that it was the Ridht Way [tm] to do it .... Apologies... -- Kiril Mitev, IT Operations Mgr, London IDEAglobal.com Standard Corporate Disclaimer applies, see http://www.ideaglobal.com/email-disclaimer.html for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 10:20:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proton.hexanet.fr (proton.hexanet.fr [194.98.140.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DFF15CD5 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:20:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@hexanet.fr) Received: from hexanet.fr (nighty@proton.hexanet.fr [194.98.140.18]) by proton.hexanet.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA68329 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:20:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from chris@hexanet.fr) Message-ID: <37C2D445.EBA1C87B@hexanet.fr> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:20:05 +0200 From: Christophe Prevotaux Organization: HEXANET X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: French, fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Buildworld fails on 8/24/99 CVSUP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After doing a CVSUP from 3.2-RELEASE to 3.2-STABLE on 8/24/99 I got the following error from make buildworld ======================= cd /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl && make lib/Config.pm `lib/Config.pm' is up to date. Warning: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.h out of date with /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.sh *** Error code 1 (ignored) Makefile out-of-date with respect to Makefile.PL /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/Config.pm /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.h Cleaning current config before rebuilding Makefile... make -f Makefile.old clean > /dev/null 2>&1 || /bin/sh -c true /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/miniperl "-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib" "-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib" Makefile.PL "LINKTYPE=static" "INSTALLDIRS=perl" "PERL_SRC=/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl" "LIBS=-lperl" "INSTALLMAN3DIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/perl/man3" Writing Makefile for DynaLoader ==> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <== ==> Please rerun the make command. <== false false:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. ======================= Can anyone tell me why ? and how to fix it so it compiles -- =================================================================== Christophe Prevotaux Email: chris@hexanet.fr HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ Z.A Farman Sud Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 9 rue Roland Coffignot Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 BP415 51689 Reims Cedex 2 Use a real OS, use UNIX FRANCE FreeBSD =================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 12: 8: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [194.102.224.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B543A15177; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:07:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01204; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:07:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:07:23 +0300 (EEST) From: Adrian Penisoara To: Juergen Lock Cc: scrappy@hub.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, alc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.2-STABLE hangs after several hours ... In-Reply-To: <199908240311.FAA02349@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Juergen Lock wrote: > >In case anyone is looking at this, with as little info as there is here, > >the last kernel updated was July 13th, so its between then and now that > >the "bug" appears to have been introduced... > > I also went to update my kernel yesterday and stumbled across what > appears to be the same problems as yours, hanging processes until the > entire system becomes unusable... And here is what i came up with: It seems that I've been bitten by the same bug (the machine suddenly freezes after some 2-3 hours); I'm checking out right now the submitted patch and I'll let you know (probably tomorrow) how it works for me... > > Index: vm_object.h > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/cvs/cvs/src/sys/vm/vm_object.h,v > retrieving revision 1.51.2.1 > diff -u -u -r1.51.2.1 vm_object.h > --- vm_object.h 1999/07/29 05:38:57 1.51.2.1 > +++ vm_object.h 1999/08/24 01:58:14 > @@ -93,9 +93,9 @@ > vm_size_t size; /* Object size */ > int ref_count; /* How many refs?? */ > int shadow_count; /* how many objects that this is a shadow for */ > + int pg_color; /* color of first page in obj */ > int id; /* ID for no purpose, other than info */ > u_short flags; /* see below */ > - u_short pg_color; /* color of first page in obj */ > u_short paging_in_progress; /* Paging (in or out) so don't collapse or destroy */ > u_short behavior; /* see below */ > int resident_page_count; /* number of resident pages */ > [...] > > Regards, > -- > Juergen Lock > (remove dot foo from address to reply) Thanks, Ady (@freebsd.ady.ro) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 12:26:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from penelope.skunk.org (penelope.skunk.org [208.133.204.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F507150E1; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:26:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@penelope.skunk.org) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by penelope.skunk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA37720; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:59:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Ben Rosengart To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTP daemon and Y2K issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > I y2k-fixed xntpd in FreeBSD in January. Have a look at > Did you get all the bugs that the AT&T people found? Can those of us running 3.2-RELEASE rest easy? -- Ben UNIX Systems Engineer, Skunk Group StarMedia Network, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 12:56:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from usagi.cts.com (usagi.cts.com [209.68.192.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1AF1525D for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:56:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdavis@cts.com) Received: from yyz.cts.com (yyz.cts.com [205.163.23.100]) by usagi.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25388 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CTSD2 (ctsd2.cts.com [205.163.23.182]) by yyz.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA80306 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:56:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdavis@cts.com) From: "Morgan Davis" To: Subject: DPT SmartRAID V Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:56:07 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2918.2701 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Any news on the DPT "SmartRaid V fiber channel" RAID controller? I know that there is development on this. When can -stable expect to have something out, and which version of FreeBSD would that be in now for beta testing? Thanks. --Morgan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 12:56:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from usagi.cts.com (usagi.cts.com [209.68.192.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F04159B3 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:56:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdavis@cts.com) Received: from yyz.cts.com (yyz.cts.com [205.163.23.100]) by usagi.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25393 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CTSD2 (ctsd2.cts.com [205.163.23.182]) by yyz.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA80309 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:56:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdavis@cts.com) From: "Morgan Davis" To: Subject: INNd sticks in "vmopar" state Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:56:07 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2918.2701 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Perhaps this is a question best suited for David Greenman, but I'll ask the -stable collective for feedback. We have a 3.2-STABLE news machine, connected to a Network Appliance (netApp) RAID. INNd 2.3 (June 11th beta) periodically gets stuck in a "vmopar" state. Only fix is a reboot. Looks like a VM system issue possibly related to NFS. Any hints or confirmation? Thank you. --Morgan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 13:31:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rice.edu (cs.rice.edu [128.42.1.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E03215125; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:31:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alc@cs.rice.edu) Received: from nonpc.cs.rice.edu (nonpc.cs.rice.edu [128.42.1.219]) by cs.rice.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA10802; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:31:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from alc@localhost) by nonpc.cs.rice.edu (8.9.3/8.7.3) id PAA51936; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:31:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:31:16 -0500 From: Alan Cox To: Adrian Penisoara Cc: Juergen Lock , scrappy@hub.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, alc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3.2-STABLE hangs after several hours ... Message-ID: <19990824153116.P39490@nonpc.cs.rice.edu> References: <199908240311.FAA02349@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Adrian Penisoara on Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 10:07:23PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 10:07:23PM +0300, Adrian Penisoara wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Juergen Lock wrote: > > > >In case anyone is looking at this, with as little info as there is here, > > >the last kernel updated was July 13th, so its between then and now that > > >the "bug" appears to have been introduced... > > > > I also went to update my kernel yesterday and stumbled across what > > appears to be the same problems as yours, hanging processes until the > > entire system becomes unusable... And here is what i came up with: > > It seems that I've been bitten by the same bug (the machine suddenly > freezes after some 2-3 hours); I'm checking out right now the submitted > patch and I'll let you know (probably tomorrow) how it works for me... > Please check if you have a process hung in "objtrm". Juergen did. If so, this is the same bug reported in the "mSQL getting stuck in objtrm state" thread, and it has nothing to do with the changes below. (See my earlier message on this subject to the -STABLE list.) Alan > > > > Index: vm_object.h > > =================================================================== > > RCS file: /home/cvs/cvs/src/sys/vm/vm_object.h,v > > retrieving revision 1.51.2.1 > > diff -u -u -r1.51.2.1 vm_object.h > > --- vm_object.h 1999/07/29 05:38:57 1.51.2.1 > > +++ vm_object.h 1999/08/24 01:58:14 > > @@ -93,9 +93,9 @@ > > vm_size_t size; /* Object size */ > > int ref_count; /* How many refs?? */ > > int shadow_count; /* how many objects that this is a shadow for */ > > + int pg_color; /* color of first page in obj */ > > int id; /* ID for no purpose, other than info */ > > u_short flags; /* see below */ > > - u_short pg_color; /* color of first page in obj */ > > u_short paging_in_progress; /* Paging (in or out) so don't collapse or destroy */ > > u_short behavior; /* see below */ > > int resident_page_count; /* number of resident pages */ > > > [...] > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 13:35: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from erlenstar.demon.co.uk (erlenstar.demon.co.uk [194.222.144.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F96515125 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:34:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by erlenstar.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10850; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:34:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from andrew) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INNd sticks in "vmopar" state References: From: Andrew Gierth In-Reply-To: "Morgan Davis"'s message of "Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:56:07 -0700" X-Mayan-Date: Long count = 12.19.6.8.10; tzolkin = 9 Oc; haab = 18 Yaxkin X-Pgp-0x0E9FFBE9: 87 25 7F 14 41 24 B3 51 E0 19 8B DE 49 74 0C 29 X-Attribution: AG Date: 24 Aug 1999 21:34:40 +0100 Message-ID: <87d7wc7w9r.fsf@erlenstar.demon.co.uk> Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Morgan" == Morgan Davis writes: Morgan> Perhaps this is a question best suited for David Greenman, Morgan> but I'll ask the -stable collective for feedback. We have a Morgan> 3.2-STABLE news machine, connected to a Network Appliance Morgan> (netApp) RAID. INNd 2.3 (June 11th beta) periodically gets Morgan> stuck in a "vmopar" state. Only fix is a reboot. Looks like Morgan> a VM system issue possibly related to NFS. Any hints or Morgan> confirmation? My small news server repeatedly hangs with innd in "vmpfw", with sometimes another process (e.g. innfeed) hung in "vmopar". Requires a fairly aggressive reboot to fix (any attempt to unmount the news spool filesystem hangs too). This is with FreeBSD-stable as of about June, with local disks and INN 2.2-stable (with every mmap option I could find turned off). Moving to FreeBSD-current isn't really an option. -- Andrew. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 15:12:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6146215202 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:11:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id AAA05064; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:06:29 +0200 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id AAA11300; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:05:21 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:05:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Juergen Lock Message-Id: <199908242205.AAA11300@saturn.kn-bremen.de> To: dgilbert@velocet.ca Subject: Re: mSQL getting stuck in objtrm state X-Newsgroups: local.list.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: <14273.34327.590896.433108@trooper.velocet.ca> References: <37C17BF5.157CD4F2@nortelnetworks.com> Organization: home Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <14273.34327.590896.433108@trooper.velocet.ca> you write: >>>>>> "Mike" == Mike Kephart writes: > >Mike> Since this last update to STABLE, I've been seeing the mSQL >Mike> daemon (msql2d) getting stuck in objtrm state, and I'm forced to >Mike> reboot to clean up. I'm running mSQL binaries and library built >Mike> under 3.2-RELEASE. > >I witnessed this 'objtrm' state locking up netscape this weekend. I >cvsup'd Saturday morning. Both of you might want to try the `fix' i posted in the `3.2-STABLE hangs after several hours ...' thread, Message-Id: <199908240311.FAA02349@saturn.kn-bremen.de>. My hangs also were in objtrm, and other processes then later hung in vmwait or iowait... With the patch i haven't seen a hang yet, my kernel is back to be as stable as the one(s) from before Jul 28. Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 16:36:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66386151AA; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:36:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id BAA06868; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 01:31:32 +0200 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id BAA01707; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 01:28:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: Juergen Lock Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 01:28:47 +0200 To: Alan Cox Cc: Adrian Penisoara , Juergen Lock , scrappy@hub.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, alc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3.2-STABLE hangs after several hours ... Message-ID: <19990825012846.B708@saturn.kn-bremen.de> References: <199908240311.FAA02349@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <19990824153116.P39490@nonpc.cs.rice.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990824153116.P39490@nonpc.cs.rice.edu>; from Alan Cox on Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 03:31:16PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 03:31:16PM -0500, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 10:07:23PM +0300, Adrian Penisoara wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Juergen Lock wrote: > > > > > >In case anyone is looking at this, with as little info as there is here, > > > >the last kernel updated was July 13th, so its between then and now that > > > >the "bug" appears to have been introduced... > > > > > > I also went to update my kernel yesterday and stumbled across what > > > appears to be the same problems as yours, hanging processes until the > > > entire system becomes unusable... And here is what i came up with: > > > > It seems that I've been bitten by the same bug (the machine suddenly > > freezes after some 2-3 hours); I'm checking out right now the submitted > > patch and I'll let you know (probably tomorrow) how it works for me... > > > > Please check if you have a process hung in "objtrm". Juergen did. > If so, this is the same bug reported in the "mSQL getting stuck > in objtrm state" thread, and it has nothing to do with the changes > below. (See my earlier message on this subject to the -STABLE list.) Well it still has `something' to do with those changes as all stable kernels from before that commit (Jul 28) never showed the bug (at least for me), and everything after that date did... Now as to WHY this is so, well, *shrug*. especially as the fixed atomic.h does indeed appear to be the `real' fix for it... Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 24 22:32:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rice.edu (cs.rice.edu [128.42.1.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DC314F0F; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:32:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alc@cs.rice.edu) Received: (from alc@localhost) by cs.rice.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) id AAA26749; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:31:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:31:24 -0500 From: Alan Cox To: Juergen Lock Cc: Adrian Penisoara , scrappy@hub.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, alc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3.2-STABLE hangs after several hours ... Message-ID: <19990825003124.C25104@cs.rice.edu> References: <199908240311.FAA02349@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <19990824153116.P39490@nonpc.cs.rice.edu> <19990825012846.B708@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5us In-Reply-To: <19990825012846.B708@saturn.kn-bremen.de>; from Juergen Lock on Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 01:28:47AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 01:28:47AM +0200, Juergen Lock wrote: > > Well it still has `something' to do with those changes as all stable > kernels from before that commit (Jul 28) never showed the bug (at least > for me), and everything after that date did... Now as to WHY this > is so, well, *shrug*. especially as the fixed atomic.h does indeed > appear to be the `real' fix for it... > That sometimes happens with race conditions. In any case, I've now committed the patch to -STABLE. Thanks for your detailed report. Alan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 3:10:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.t.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6180D1592D for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 03:10:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@freesbee.t.dk) Received: (qmail 13798 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Aug 1999 10:10:38 -0000 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:10:38 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: Bill Paul Subject: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped Message-ID: <19990825121038.G10374@skriver.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, We had a 3.2-STABLE from the 19th of August that hung with this on the console. I'm afraid I have no further info, DDB was compiled in, but I couldn't get into the kernel debugger ... Yes, I am preparing for a imminent death, as I have no real debugging information ;-) /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver (JS4261-RIPE), Network manager Tele Danmark DataNet, IP section (AS3292) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 3:36:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.t.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8612D15326 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 03:36:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@freesbee.t.dk) Received: (qmail 14231 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Aug 1999 10:36:22 -0000 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:36:22 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: Bill Paul Subject: Re: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped Message-ID: <19990825123621.J10374@skriver.dk> References: <19990825121038.G10374@skriver.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.2i In-Reply-To: <19990825121038.G10374@skriver.dk>; from Jesper Skriver on Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 12:10:38PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 12:10:38PM +0200, Jesper Skriver wrote: > We had a 3.2-STABLE from the 19th of August that hung with this on the > console. > > I'm afraid I have no further info, DDB was compiled in, but I couldn't > get into the kernel debugger ... > > Yes, I am preparing for a imminent death, as I have no real debugging > information ;-) I'll commit harakiri, don't bother. From /var/log/messages: Aug 25 04:45:54 gl-mie /kernel: xl0: transmission error: 90 Aug 25 04:45:54 gl-mie /kernel: xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 120 bytes Aug 25 04:49:18 gl-mie /kernel: xl0: transmission error: 90 Aug 25 04:49:19 gl-mie /kernel: xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 180 bytes Aug 25 04:51:42 gl-mie /kernel: xl0: transmission error: 90 Aug 25 04:51:43 gl-mie /kernel: xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 240 bytes Aug 25 05:47:09 gl-mie /kernel: xl0: transmission error: 90 Aug 25 05:47:09 gl-mie /kernel: xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 300 bytes Aug 25 08:32:16 gl-mie /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust NMBCLUSTERS or increase maxusers! Aug 25 08:32:16 gl-mie /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped! Aug 25 08:32:48 gl-mie last message repeated 33 times dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Thu Aug 19 11:14:57 CEST 1999 root@remie.nms.tele.dk:/usr/src/sys/compile/HP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 300683203 Hz CPU: Pentium II (300.68-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x634 Stepping = 4 Features=0x80fbff real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) config> q avail memory = 62763008 (61292K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0262000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc026209c. eisa0: Probing for devices on the EISA bus Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: Correcting Natoma config for non-SMP chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x24 int a irq 9 on pci0.7.0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:4b:6b:ce:40 xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps) chip1: rev 0x02 on pci0.8.0 chip2: rev 0x15 on pci0.9.0 ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 15 on pci0.10.0 ahc0: Using left over BIOS settings ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc1: rev 0x00 int a irq 15 on pci0.11.0 ahc1: Using left over BIOS settings ahc1: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: ahc2: rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci1.3.0 ahc2: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle pass0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 pass0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device pass0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) da0 at ahc2 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 16), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 70076MB (143515904 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8933C) changing root device to da0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted xl0: selecting MII, 100Mbps, half duplex xl0: selecting MII, 100Mbps, full duplex /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver (JS4261-RIPE), Network manager Tele Danmark DataNet, IP section (AS3292) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 5:17:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat203.199.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.203.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE881504D for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:16:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27905; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:16:36 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:16:36 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Andrew Gierth Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: INNd sticks in "vmopar" state In-Reply-To: <87d7wc7w9r.fsf@erlenstar.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 24 Aug 1999, Andrew Gierth wrote: > >>>>> "Morgan" == Morgan Davis writes: > > Morgan> Perhaps this is a question best suited for David Greenman, > Morgan> but I'll ask the -stable collective for feedback. We have a > Morgan> 3.2-STABLE news machine, connected to a Network Appliance > Morgan> (netApp) RAID. INNd 2.3 (June 11th beta) periodically gets > Morgan> stuck in a "vmopar" state. Only fix is a reboot. Looks like > Morgan> a VM system issue possibly related to NFS. Any hints or > Morgan> confirmation? > > My small news server repeatedly hangs with innd in "vmpfw", with > sometimes another process (e.g. innfeed) hung in "vmopar". Requires a > fairly aggressive reboot to fix (any attempt to unmount the news spool > filesystem hangs too). > > This is with FreeBSD-stable as of about June, with local disks and INN > 2.2-stable (with every mmap option I could find turned off). Moving to > FreeBSD-current isn't really an option. This may not be related, but... When Matt and I investigated my problem with 3.2-STABLE & INN-CURRENT (2.3 wannabe), we narrowed down the problem to a VM fragmentation problem in pre-4.x kernels. Basically, I ran 'vmstat -m' out of cron every 10 minutes, watching for the 'VM pgdata' values closely: VM pgdata 55 16K 211K128695K 73 0 0 128,256,512,2K,256K Basically, once the '211K' value reached the '128695K' value, you were hosed. By default, the system caps the 128695K(maxuse) value at something like 40M, but Matt got me to add: options "VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX=(256*1024*1024)" to my kernel, which, at the time, jumped me to ~64M for maxuse (I had 384Meg in the machine)...the problem still happened, just not *as* quickly... Next thing we did was to increase the RAM on the machine to 768M, which doubled the maxuse size above to 128M, and the problem has disappeared... According to what I understood from Matt, it has something to do with how the VM structures are referenced, and this was radically changed in 4.x kernels... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 7:16:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from argonaut.ops.iafrica.com (argonaut.ops.iafrica.com [196.31.1.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1257E14CEC for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tommygun@uunet.co.za) Received: from localhost (tommygun@localhost) by argonaut.ops.iafrica.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA21184 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:20:02 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from tommygun@uunet.co.za) X-Authentication-Warning: argonaut.ops.iafrica.com: tommygun owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:20:01 +0200 (SAST) From: "Thomas G. Cleghorn" X-Sender: tommygun@argonaut.ops.iafrica.com To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, Im a relative newbie. I installed BSD 3.2 with no problems from the 4 volume CD set. I then decided Id like to look through the CD myself and try to mount it, how...... I found the syntax (man mount etc)and wanted to mount it on /cdrom but was unsure of 'special'. Anyway, grep`d FAQs and Handbook in vain for any answers. In the end I ran /stand/sysinstall, changed to a different console did a df and found what I was looking for /dev/wcd0c (I think). wcd0c does not appear in my dmesg, where was I meant to find the info? For a newbie should not getting a cd to work be relatively easy or at least documented in the handbook or FAQs? Thomas Cleghorn<---Not too pathetic sounding I hope. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 7:20:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from reliant.pmr.com (reliant.pmr.com [207.170.114.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540EB14E50 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:20:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wayne@reliant.pmr.com) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by reliant.pmr.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA08626; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:18:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from wayne) Message-ID: <19990825091857.A8540@reliant.pmr.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:18:57 -0500 From: Wayne Willcox To: "Thomas G. Cleghorn" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Reply-To: Wayne Willcox References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: ; from Thomas G. Cleghorn on Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 04:20:01PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It is easy, here it is for a scsi drive. You will have to use your own device name though. /dev/cd0a /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 04:20:01PM +0200, Thomas G. Cleghorn wrote: > Hi there, > Im a relative newbie. I installed BSD 3.2 with no problems from > the 4 volume CD set. I then decided Id like to look through the CD myself > and try to mount it, how...... > I found the syntax (man mount etc)and wanted to mount it on /cdrom but was > unsure of 'special'. Anyway, grep`d FAQs and Handbook in vain for any > answers. In the end I ran /stand/sysinstall, changed to a different > console did a df and found what I was looking for /dev/wcd0c (I think). > wcd0c does not appear in my dmesg, where was I meant to find the info? > For a newbie should not getting a cd to work be relatively easy or at > least documented in the handbook or FAQs? > > Thomas Cleghorn<---Not too pathetic sounding I hope. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Slowly and surely the unix crept up on the Nintendo user ... Wayne Willcox I will not eat green eggs and ham wayne@reliant.pmr.com I will not eat them Sam I Am!! A wise person makes his own decisions, a weak one obeys public opinion. -- Chinese proverb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 7:26:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from reliant.pmr.com (reliant.pmr.com [207.170.114.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCE514E50 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:26:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wayne@reliant.pmr.com) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by reliant.pmr.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA08670; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:24:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from wayne) Message-ID: <19990825092434.A8660@reliant.pmr.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:24:34 -0500 From: Wayne Willcox To: "Thomas G. Cleghorn" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Reply-To: Wayne Willcox References: <19990825091857.A8540@reliant.pmr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <19990825091857.A8540@reliant.pmr.com>; from Wayne Willcox on Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 09:18:57AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG opps, forgot this is the entry in your /etc/fstab. Then all you have to do in the future is mount /cdrom. On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 09:18:57AM -0500, Wayne Willcox wrote: > It is easy, here it is for a scsi drive. You will have to use > your own device name though. > > /dev/cd0a /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 04:20:01PM +0200, Thomas G. Cleghorn wrote: > > Hi there, > > Im a relative newbie. I installed BSD 3.2 with no problems from > > the 4 volume CD set. I then decided Id like to look through the CD myself > > and try to mount it, how...... > > I found the syntax (man mount etc)and wanted to mount it on /cdrom but was > > unsure of 'special'. Anyway, grep`d FAQs and Handbook in vain for any > > answers. In the end I ran /stand/sysinstall, changed to a different > > console did a df and found what I was looking for /dev/wcd0c (I think). > > wcd0c does not appear in my dmesg, where was I meant to find the info? > > For a newbie should not getting a cd to work be relatively easy or at > > least documented in the handbook or FAQs? > > > > Thomas Cleghorn<---Not too pathetic sounding I hope. > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Slowly and surely the unix crept up on the Nintendo user ... > Wayne Willcox I will not eat green eggs and ham > wayne@reliant.pmr.com I will not eat them Sam I Am!! > A wise person makes his own decisions, a weak one obeys public opinion. > -- Chinese proverb > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Slowly and surely the unix crept up on the Nintendo user ... Wayne Willcox I will not eat green eggs and ham wayne@reliant.pmr.com I will not eat them Sam I Am!! A wise person makes his own decisions, a weak one obeys public opinion. -- Chinese proverb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 7:31:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD22114E50 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:31:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from cayenne.isds.duke.edu (cayenne.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.11]) by isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05813; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from sto@localhost) by cayenne.isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28709; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990825103126.D28256@stat.Duke.EDU> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:31:26 -0400 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: "Thomas G. Cleghorn" Cc: FreeBSD stable Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Thomas G. Cleghorn on Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 04:20:01PM +0200 X-Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 1999 Aug 25, Thomas G. Cleghorn (aka tommygun@uunet.co.za) wrote: > Hi there, > Im a relative newbie. I installed BSD 3.2 with no problems from > the 4 volume CD set. I then decided Id like to look through the CD myself > and try to mount it, how...... > I found the syntax (man mount etc)and wanted to mount it on /cdrom but was > unsure of 'special'. Anyway, grep`d FAQs and Handbook in vain for any > answers. In the end I ran /stand/sysinstall, changed to a different > console did a df and found what I was looking for /dev/wcd0c (I think). > wcd0c does not appear in my dmesg, where was I meant to find the info? > For a newbie should not getting a cd to work be relatively easy or at > least documented in the handbook or FAQs? It sounds like you have an atapi cdrom. So you'll want to add /dev/wcd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 to /etc/fstab. To actually mount the puppy, you'll need to, as root, type: mount /cdrom (or use sudo to do it as a user with root privilege ... nice tool) or use amd to "automount" your cdrom: Here is what I use... /etc/rc.conf: amd_enable="YES" # Run amd service with $amd_flags (or NO). amd_flags="-l syslog /a /etc/amd.conf" /etc/amd.conf # # automount the cdrom ? # cdrom type:=program;dev:=/dev/acd0c;fs:=/cdrom;\ mount:="/sbin/mount mount -t cd9660 -o nosuid ${dev} /cdrom";\ unmount:="/sbin/umount umount ${dev}" then all I have to do is type (as me): ls /a/cdrom this will mount the cdrom on /cdrom (and /a/cdrom) for the default inactivity time, to eject it beforehand: amq -u /a/cdrom to unmount, then you should be able to open the tray. Hope this helps, S PS. Does any one on the list have a cleaner way of doing this? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 7:43: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5A6150A7 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:42:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA91412; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:40:55 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199908251440.QAA91412@gratis.grondar.za> To: Wayne Willcox Cc: "Thomas G. Cleghorn" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:40:54 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You guys are all missing the point of Thomas' mail here! He knows how to do it, and eventually found out on his own; his point is that it was a _helluva_ lot less obvious than it should have been. The question at the end, is (paraphrased) "Where is the documentation for us newbies whe dont know that the CDROM is /dev/wcd0c??". M > It is easy, here it is for a scsi drive. You will have to use > your own device name though. > > /dev/cd0a /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 04:20:01PM +0200, Thomas G. Cleghorn wrote: > > Hi there, > > Im a relative newbie. I installed BSD 3.2 with no problems from > > the 4 volume CD set. I then decided Id like to look through the CD myself > > and try to mount it, how...... > > I found the syntax (man mount etc)and wanted to mount it on /cdrom but was > > unsure of 'special'. Anyway, grep`d FAQs and Handbook in vain for any > > answers. In the end I ran /stand/sysinstall, changed to a different > > console did a df and found what I was looking for /dev/wcd0c (I think). > > wcd0c does not appear in my dmesg, where was I meant to find the info? > > For a newbie should not getting a cd to work be relatively easy or at > > least documented in the handbook or FAQs? > > > > Thomas Cleghorn<---Not too pathetic sounding I hope. > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Slowly and surely the unix crept up on the Nintendo user ... > Wayne Willcox I will not eat green eggs and ham > wayne@reliant.pmr.com I will not eat them Sam I Am!! > A wise person makes his own decisions, a weak one obeys public opinion. > -- Chinese proverb > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 7:56:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id 7238915217; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped In-Reply-To: <19990825123621.J10374@skriver.dk> from Jesper Skriver at "Aug 25, 1999 12:36:22 pm" To: jesper@skriver.dk (Jesper Skriver) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 214 Message-Id: <19990825145636.7238915217@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Aug 25 08:32:16 gl-mie /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust NMBCLUSTERS or increase maxusers! Here's a radical concept for you: why don't you do what the error message says! options NMBCLUSTERS 10000 -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 7:57:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F264C15217 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:57:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15083; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:54:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Fritz Heinrichmeyer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making myrease after installworld only when using cvs In-reply-to: Your message of "23 Aug 1999 08:15:34 +0200." Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:54:21 -0700 Message-ID: <15080.935592861@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That impression is correct. > > I had the impression that the Makefile for making a release depends on > a CVS-archive at hand. It seems that it does not work with a "cvsup-ed" > source tree. > > -- > Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de > FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) > tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://ES-i2.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 7:58:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4FC15952 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:58:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11JeT2-0005su-00; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:56:00 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Mark Murray Cc: Wayne Willcox , "Thomas G. Cleghorn" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:40:54 +0200." <199908251440.QAA91412@gratis.grondar.za> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:56:00 +0200 Message-ID: <22623.935592960@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:40:54 +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > The question at the end, is (paraphrased) "Where is the documentation > for us newbies whe dont know that the CDROM is /dev/wcd0c??". And so after all that, it's almost something he'll want to take up on the freebsd-doc mailing list. *pull.pin.piss.off.and.pray* Later, Sheldon. PS: This recipient list is perverse. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 8:20:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8A91523E for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14296 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:18:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:18:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199908251518.RAA14296@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making myrease after installworld only when using cvs Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Fritz Heinrichmeyer wrote in list.freebsd-stable: > I had the impression that the Makefile for making a release depends on > a CVS-archive at hand. It seems that it does not work with a "cvsup-ed" > source tree. That's correct. But it's not very difficult to hack the Makefile so it works with a "naked" source tree and without CVS repository (I did that once just to save time). Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 9:19: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles553.castles.com [208.214.165.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7ED15B9D; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:18:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04227; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:12:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199908251612.JAA04227@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Jesper Skriver Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Bill Paul Subject: Re: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:10:38 +0200." <19990825121038.G10374@skriver.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:12:14 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, > > We had a 3.2-STABLE from the 19th of August that hung with this on the > console. > > I'm afraid I have no further info, DDB was compiled in, but I couldn't > get into the kernel debugger ... > > Yes, I am preparing for a imminent death, as I have no real debugging > information ;-) Typically you get this when you run out of mbufs. Increase NMBCLUSTERS and try again. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 9:32:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles553.castles.com [208.214.165.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121CC15B2D for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:31:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04298; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:25:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199908251625.JAA04298@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Thomas G. Cleghorn" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:20:01 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:25:39 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi there, > Im a relative newbie. I installed BSD 3.2 with no problems from > the 4 volume CD set. I then decided Id like to look through the CD myself > and try to mount it, how...... If you installed from the cdrom, you already have an entry for it in /etc/fstab. 'mount /cdrom' is all you need to do. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 9:48:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029471504D for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:48:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA30251 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:46:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199908251646.MAA30251@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps In-Reply-To: <199908251625.JAA04298@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Aug 25, 1999 09:25:39 am" To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith once wrote: > > Hi there, > > Im a relative newbie. I installed BSD 3.2 with no problems > > from the 4 volume CD set. I then decided Id like to look through the > > CD myself and try to mount it, how...... > > If you installed from the cdrom, you already have an entry for it in > /etc/fstab. > > 'mount /cdrom' is all you need to do. I have an idea. May be, the new releases should come with amd enabled and configured to have /media (or /removable) map with entries automaticly generated for each removable media device detected at the install time? Like /media/cdrom([0-9])* /media/floppy([0-9])* The unmount time shoud be short for floppies too, for all those who pop it out before doing 'umount'. Then this sort of questions will not only stop appearing on the mailing list(s), but also in the users' minds (hopefully). -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 13:13:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252A414FF5 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:13:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA92930; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:12:57 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199908252012.WAA92930@gratis.grondar.za> To: Mike Smith Cc: "Thomas G. Cleghorn" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:12:55 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Hi there, > > Im a relative newbie. I installed BSD 3.2 with no problems from > > the 4 volume CD set. I then decided Id like to look through the CD myself > > and try to mount it, how...... > > If you installed from the cdrom, you already have an entry for it in > /etc/fstab. > > 'mount /cdrom' is all you need to do. :-) Another one not answering the question. He got the CD mounted (eventually). What was not obvious enough was what the cd device name was. He was very diligent about looking for help himself (I know, 'cos he is in my office). There was _nothing_ to tell him that /dev/wcdoc was his IDE cdrom drive. He eventually figured it out by getting sysinstall to mout the cd, and grokking the output of "mount". If you "man -k cd" or "man -k cdrom", there is no clue as to what the device is. (I am at a total loss with this for non SCSI devices). Tommy looked in Handbook, FAQ, man -k and the output of dmesg(8). Methinks he found the type of hole in our documentation that gives software a bad name :-). M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 13:18:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B15115CD4 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:18:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00737; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199908252010.NAA00737@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mark Murray Cc: Mike Smith , "Thomas G. Cleghorn" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:12:55 +0200." <199908252012.WAA92930@gratis.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:10:02 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > If you "man -k cd" or "man -k cdrom", there is no clue as to what > the device is. (I am at a total loss with this for non SCSI devices). > Tommy looked in Handbook, FAQ, man -k and the output of > dmesg(8). > > Methinks he found the type of hole in our documentation that gives > software a bad name :-). Did he happen to look at "The Complete FreeBSD"? -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 13:25:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AB9159C3 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:24:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11JjZF-0006jo-00; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:22:45 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Mark Murray Cc: Mike Smith , "Thomas G. Cleghorn" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:12:55 +0200." <199908252012.WAA92930@gratis.grondar.za> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:22:45 +0200 Message-ID: <25903.935612565@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:12:55 +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > He got the CD mounted (eventually). What was not obvious enough > was what the cd device name was. Tom happened to catch me having a smoke as he was leaving the office. We chatted about documentation and the reasons why stuff doesn't exist here and there in a project like ours. He didn't seem completely averse to putting together some text for us. Perhaps a silver lining will come of this. Hopefully on another mailing list, though. *efg* Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 13:25:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6201D159BD for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:25:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id WAA30682; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:18:24 +0200 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id WAA49232; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:19:48 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:19:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Juergen Lock Message-Id: <199908252019.WAA49232@saturn.kn-bremen.de> To: glewis@ares.maths.adelaide.edu.au Subject: FreeBSD and wine (was: Re: SMP and WINE) X-Newsgroups: local.list.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: <199908150633.QAA09941@ares.maths.adelaide.edu.au> References: <3.0.3.32.19990814230557.00f46c20@pop.interaccess.com> Organization: home Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <199908150633.QAA09941@ares.maths.adelaide.edu.au> you write: >> A few weeks ago there was a post about WINE not being able to run on an SMP >> system, if I recall -current would allow it at that time, but not -stable. >> something about sharing data segments between forked proccess I think. I'm >> putting together a SMP system and would like to use WINE. I'm wondering if >> there have been any changes to -stable in this area, or if there are any >> other tricks to get wine running under an SMP kernel. > >I think that was probably my post :). I've been following the committers >list (cvs-all) and haven't seen any of the necessary changes backported >to -stable. I believe that Luoqi Chen's vmspace sharing code is >necessary for Wine to work under SMP. This was committed to -current >April 27th. There have been a couple of related patches since that (as >far as I can tell from the commit logs anyway). Speaking of wine, has anyone looked at committing the patches in kern/11287? without them wine works only `partly', like when running on old linux kernels (2.0.x)... FWIW, i've been running my back-ported version of luoqi's patch (the LDT fix, nothing to do with SMP, see the PR) since i posted it several months ago and haven't noticed any adverse effects. the PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=11287 luoqui's patch: http://www.freebsd.org/~luoqi Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 13:41:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE28B14E0A for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:41:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA93083; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:38:14 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199908252038.WAA93083@gratis.grondar.za> To: Mike Smith Cc: "Thomas G. Cleghorn" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:38:13 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > If you "man -k cd" or "man -k cdrom", there is no clue as to what > > the device is. (I am at a total loss with this for non SCSI devices). > > Tommy looked in Handbook, FAQ, man -k and the output of > > dmesg(8). > > > > Methinks he found the type of hole in our documentation that gives > > software a bad name :-). > > Did he happen to look at "The Complete FreeBSD"? I did find it there, but [wh]e didn't have a copy at the crucial moment(s). M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 17:13: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from walnut.config.com (walnut.config.com [216.28.158.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC9614FC4 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:12:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@config.com) Received: from config.com (walnut.config.com [216.28.158.11]) by walnut.config.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA79487; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37C48636.45C7286B@config.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:11:34 -0400 From: "Joe S. Rinehart" Reply-To: joe@config.com Organization: Config.Com, Inc. - http://www.config.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe -- Config.Com, Inc. Joe Rinehart, Operations Designer 124 North Chestnut Street, Ravenna, Ohio 44266 mailto:joe@config.com * http://www.config.com/joerinehart/ Office: 330.297.9595 * Toll Free: 1.877.OHIOWEB * Fax: 330.296.4005 finger:joe@config.com * Home: Bolivar: 330.874.2869 * Ravenna: 330.296.1931 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 17:47:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from monet.etfal.g12.br (monet.etfal.g12.br [200.241.165.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C7B157D4 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:46:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aald@monet.etfal.g12.br) Received: from localhost (aald@localhost) by monet.etfal.g12.br (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA07351 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:54:31 -0300 (EST) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:54:30 -0300 (EST) From: Aldenor Falcao To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: encrypt Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys!, I need to build python, cause the one the comes with 3.2 is broken. It doesn't have the thread and SHA compiled in. But when i try to compile i receive the following warning: gcc -Xlinker -export-dynamic python.o ../libpython1.5.a -lc_r -lm -o python /usr/lib/libc.so: warning: this program uses gets(), which is unsafe. /usr/lib/libc.so: WARNING! setkey(3) not present in the system! /usr/lib/libc.so: WARNING! des_setkey(3) not present in the system! /usr/lib/libc.so: WARNING! encrypt(3) not present in the system! /usr/lib/libc.so: WARNING! des_cipher(3) not present in the system! /usr/lib/libc.so: warning: this program uses f_prealloc(), which is stupid. Anyone of you otu there knows where can I find the Freesec lib? Any help will be appreciated. TIA, Aldenor ----------------------------------------------------- Protect privacy, boycott Intel: http://www.bigbrotherinside.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 19:24:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1214152A9 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:24:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-14-144.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.14.144]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA28642 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:24:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21717 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:37:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199908260137.UAA21717@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps In-reply-to: Message from Mark Murray of "Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:40:54 +0200." <199908251440.QAA91412@gratis.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:37:53 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Murray writes: > You guys are all missing the point of Thomas' mail here! > > He knows how to do it, and eventually found out on his own; his point > is that it was a _helluva_ lot less obvious than it should have been. > The question at the end, is (paraphrased) "Where is the documentation > for us newbies whe dont know that the CDROM is /dev/wcd0c??". This is one of those areas somebody looking for something to do could contribute. I'm not thinking of documentation. I'm thinking of a "safe" filesystem driver, possibly in user space. The problem I'm thinking of is one could concievedly burn a creatively mangled CDROM that when mounted broke into the OS. Or at the very least causes the system to crash. But if we had a filesystem driver that could be used for removable media such as CDROM, Zip, Jaz, etc, written to favor error checking over speed, only then would it be safe to automount removable media by default. SGI seems to be giving away components of Irix these days. They have a pretty fully featured "mediad" for automounting media (don't know if its on the give-away list). Believe this daemon launched the appropriate filesystem daemon as a driver when mounting the media. I do remember when one had thousands (or 10's of thousands, I forget this detail) of files in a single ISO-9660 directory, Irix could be awfully slow. I remember tuning a parameter to add a couple of megabytes of buffer to their metadata cache and restored reasonable access speeds. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 25 20: 9:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB782159CD for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:09:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from areilly@nsw.bigpond.net.au) Received: from m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.20]) by m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA17258 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:09:26 +1000 (EST) X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-From: areilly@nsw.bigpond.net.au X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-To: X-BPC-Relay-Sender-Host: m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.20] X-BPC-Relay-Info: Message delivered directly. Received: from areilly.bpc-users.org (CPE-24-192-49-170.nsw.bigpond.net.au [24.192.49.170]) by m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA12453 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:09:25 +1000 (EST) Received: (qmail 48453 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Aug 1999 03:09:26 -0000 From: "Andrew Reilly" Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:09:26 +1000 To: David Kelly Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Message-ID: <19990826130926.A48046@gurney.reilly.home> References: <199908260137.UAA21717@nospam.hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199908260137.UAA21717@nospam.hiwaay.net>; from David Kelly on Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 08:37:53PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 08:37:53PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: > causes the system to crash. But if we had a filesystem driver that could > be used for removable media such as CDROM, Zip, Jaz, etc, written to > favor error checking over speed, only then would it be safe to automount > removable media by default. This is one of the reasons that I only ever use MS-DOS-formatted floppies: there's no need to mount them, and all the mucking around that that entails. I just use mtools to talk to them. Perhaps mtools, or a similar toolset that knew how to read and write off-line FFS filesystems, could be hooked to run as mountable file system, amd/nfs-style. -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 1:42:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rp-plus.de (clubserv.rp-online.de [149.221.232.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F7414E20 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:42:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (as5-057.rp-plus.de [149.221.239.121]) by mail.rp-plus.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01064 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:41:42 +0200 (METDST) Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13893 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:41:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01194 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:42:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) From: Alexander Langer Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:42:58 +0200 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Message-ID: <19990826104258.B425@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199908252012.WAA92930@gratis.grondar.za> <199908252010.NAA00737@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199908252010.NAA00737@dingo.cdrom.com> X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thus spake Mike Smith (mike@smith.net.au): > > Methinks he found the type of hole in our documentation that gives > > software a bad name :-). > Did he happen to look at "The Complete FreeBSD"? The complete FreeBSD costs money. I had the same problems when I was new to FreeBSD, although I had used Linux quite a while before.=20 I used "cat /etc/fstab" to find out the device. Alex --=20 ************** I doubt, therefore I might be. ************** *** Send email to to get PGP-Key *** --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Comment: Requires PGP version 2.6 or later. iQEVAwUBN8T+EbRIIUSeqRcRAQEYNAf/TbRA1FqvYSwBlz5S04Em51PsjFWB17QB XLn8txlCPFlGZS6eK5qtyqDguzX3BPfg7uya4qMdR2MTcYfA9S17PhwczwEL/B55 BDj6e9eHfg/9OhWMtZFrVctdFhiYz+W1aI2/UY5VzxQmt0U85LYXRxsLk5JVopBQ RDXgOOswl7mDbpPQNB6Z12rrYgSpvDnZQSmMlYI4jpC6/dHfQDDSYzcTCSA8K3Xs vWB4RZcR2J6fR4hI2/DrY18jCNOkFvcc0Ltc5zSYLjEd3eVUmc6rxrAdjwsZpP+f u76cNVpXcBVrRFXju6Wpj+K1S24Ksq0fKDJe+8Cw+Rcknj2t2ct9fw== =51VI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 4:26: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [194.102.224.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985B815AC2; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:25:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06342; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:17:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:17:42 +0300 (EEST) From: Adrian Penisoara To: Alan Cox Cc: Juergen Lock , scrappy@hub.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, alc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.2-STABLE hangs after several hours ... In-Reply-To: <19990824153116.P39490@nonpc.cs.rice.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1387050216-935665222=:5037" Content-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1387050216-935665222=:5037 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi, On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Alan Cox wrote: > > > >In case anyone is looking at this, with as little info as there is here, > > > >the last kernel updated was July 13th, so its between then and now that > > > >the "bug" appears to have been introduced... > > > > > > I also went to update my kernel yesterday and stumbled across what > > > appears to be the same problems as yours, hanging processes until the > > > entire system becomes unusable... And here is what i came up with: > > > > It seems that I've been bitten by the same bug (the machine suddenly > > freezes after some 2-3 hours); I'm checking out right now the submitted > > patch and I'll let you know (probably tomorrow) how it works for me... > > > > Please check if you have a process hung in "objtrm". Juergen did. I haven't the kernel debugger compiled in (as this is a production machine); anyone care to point me out some documentatin suited to my situation (kernel debugging on production machines) ? > If so, this is the same bug reported in the "mSQL getting stuck > in objtrm state" thread, and it has nothing to do with the changes > below. (See my earlier message on this subject to the -STABLE list.) I checked out the previous threads and my situation appears to be similar to those described in the "On freezes in 3.2-stable" thread, although I have only 128Mb of RAM and UP kernel; see the attached dmesg output for more details... Let me tell you how it worked for me: * I had an uptime of more than 13 hours with Juergen's patch, but that's not so conclusive, as these freezes tend to be somewhat random * When I saw your commit I reverted the patch, cvsupped and rebuilt the kernel; the machine hung up some 7-8 hours later ... I really don't know what to blame, kernel bug or faulty hardware; one thing I can be sure about is that the machine has been rock stable until I've started to track -STABLE from 3.1-RELEASE somtime around 6th August. I'll apply Juergen's patch again and come back to you with details. > > Alan > Thanks, Ady (@freebsd.ady.ro) --0-1387050216-935665222=:5037 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; NAME="dmesg.out" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: dmesg output Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="dmesg.out" Q29weXJpZ2h0IChjKSAxOTkyLTE5OTkgRnJlZUJTRCBJbmMuDQpDb3B5cmln aHQgKGMpIDE5ODIsIDE5ODYsIDE5ODksIDE5OTEsIDE5OTMNCglUaGUgUmVn ZW50cyBvZiB0aGUgVW5pdmVyc2l0eSBvZiBDYWxpZm9ybmlhLiBBbGwgcmln aHRzIHJlc2VydmVkLg0KRnJlZUJTRCAzLjItU1RBQkxFICMwOiBXZWQgQXVn IDI1IDE2OjAzOjU5IEVFU1QgMTk5OQ0KICAgIGFkeUBhZHkud2FycG5ldC5y bzovdXNyL3NyYy9zeXMvY29tcGlsZS9BRFkNClRpbWVjb3VudGVyICJpODI1 NCIgIGZyZXF1ZW5jeSAxMTkzMzU2IEh6DQpUaW1lY291bnRlciAiVFNDIiAg ZnJlcXVlbmN5IDMwMDcyNTUzNiBIeg0KQ1BVOiBBTUQtSzZ0bSB3LyBtdWx0 aW1lZGlhIGV4dGVuc2lvbnMgKDMwMC43My1NSHogNTg2LWNsYXNzIENQVSkN CiAgT3JpZ2luID0gIkF1dGhlbnRpY0FNRCIgIElkID0gMHg1NzAgIFN0ZXBw aW5nID0gMA0KICBGZWF0dXJlcz0weDgwMDFiZjxGUFUsVk1FLERFLFBTRSxU U0MsTVNSLE1DRSxDWDgsTU1YPg0KICBBTUQgRmVhdHVyZXM9MHg0MDA8PGIx MD4+DQpyZWFsIG1lbW9yeSAgPSAxMzQyMTc3MjggKDEzMTA3MksgYnl0ZXMp DQphdmFpbCBtZW1vcnkgPSAxMjc3Mjk2NjQgKDEyNDczNksgYnl0ZXMpDQpQ cmVsb2FkZWQgZWxmIGtlcm5lbCAia2VybmVsIiBhdCAweGMwMmE4MDAwLg0K UHJvYmluZyBmb3IgZGV2aWNlcyBvbiBQQ0kgYnVzIDA6DQpjaGlwMDogPElu dGVsIDgyNDM5VFggU3lzdGVtIENvbnRyb2xsZXIgKE1UWEMpPiByZXYgMHgw MSBvbiBwY2kwLjAuMA0KY2hpcDE6IDxJbnRlbCA4MjM3MUFCIFBDSSB0byBJ U0EgYnJpZGdlPiByZXYgMHgwMSBvbiBwY2kwLjcuMA0KY2hpcDI6IDxJbnRl bCA4MjM3MUFCIFBvd2VyIG1hbmFnZW1lbnQgY29udHJvbGxlcj4gcmV2IDB4 MDEgb24gcGNpMC43LjMNCnJsMDogPFJlYWxUZWsgODEzOSAxMC8xMDBCYXNl VFg+IHJldiAweDEwIGludCBhIGlycSAxMSBvbiBwY2kwLjkuMA0KcmwwOiBF dGhlcm5ldCBhZGRyZXNzOiAwMDoyMDoxODo4YTo5ZToxZg0KcmwwOiBhdXRv bmVnIGNvbXBsZXRlLCBsaW5rIHN0YXR1cyBnb29kIChoYWxmLWR1cGxleCwg MTAwTWJwcykNCmN5MDogPEN5Y2xhZGVzIEN5Y2xvbS1ZIFNlcmlhbCBBZGFw dGVyPiByZXYgMHgwMSBpbnQgYSBpcnEgMTAgb24gcGNpMC4xMS4wDQplZDE6 IDxORTIwMDAgUENJIEV0aGVybmV0IChSZWFsVGVrIDgwMjkpPiByZXYgMHgw MCBpbnQgYSBpcnEgMTIgb24gcGNpMC4xMy4wDQplZDE6IGFkZHJlc3MgMDA6 MDA6MjE6NDU6ZGY6N2IsIHR5cGUgTkUyMDAwICgxNiBiaXQpIA0KYWhjMDog PEFkYXB0ZWMgMjk0MEEgVWx0cmEgU0NTSSBhZGFwdGVyPiByZXYgMHgwMSBp bnQgYSBpcnEgMTUgb24gcGNpMC4xNS4wDQphaGMwOiBhaWM3ODYwIFNpbmds ZSBDaGFubmVsIEEsIFNDU0kgSWQ9NywgMy8yNTUgU0NCcw0KUHJvYmluZyBm b3IgUG5QIGRldmljZXM6DQpQcm9iaW5nIGZvciBkZXZpY2VzIG9uIHRoZSBJ U0EgYnVzOg0Kc2MwIG9uIGlzYQ0Kc2MwOiBWR0EgY29sb3IgPDE2IHZpcnR1 YWwgY29uc29sZXMsIGZsYWdzPTB4MD4NCmVkMCBhdCAweDM0MC0weDM1ZiBp cnEgNSBvbiBpc2ENCmVkMDogYWRkcmVzcyAwMDowMDoyMTo2Mjo5Yjo1Yiwg dHlwZSBORTIwMDAgKDE2IGJpdCkgDQphdGtiZGMwIGF0IDB4NjAtMHg2ZiBv biBtb3RoZXJib2FyZA0KYXRrYmQwIGlycSAxIG9uIGlzYQ0Kc2lvMCBhdCAw eDNmOC0weDNmZiBpcnEgNCBmbGFncyAweDEwIG9uIGlzYQ0Kc2lvMDogdHlw ZSAxNjU1MEENCnNpbzEgYXQgMHgyZjgtMHgyZmYgaXJxIDMgb24gaXNhDQpz aW8xOiB0eXBlIDE2NTUwQQ0KZmRjMCBhdCAweDNmMC0weDNmNyBpcnEgNiBk cnEgMiBvbiBpc2ENCmZkYzA6IEZJRk8gZW5hYmxlZCwgOCBieXRlcyB0aHJl c2hvbGQNCmZkMDogMS40NE1CIDMuNWluDQpwcGMwIGF0IDB4Mzc4IGlycSA3 IGZsYWdzIDB4NDAgb24gaXNhDQpwcGMwOiBHZW5lcmljIGNoaXBzZXQgKE5J QkJMRS1vbmx5KSBpbiBDT01QQVRJQkxFIG1vZGUNCmxwdDA6IDxnZW5lcmlj IHByaW50ZXI+IG9uIHBwYnVzIDANCmxwdDA6IEludGVycnVwdC1kcml2ZW4g cG9ydA0KcHBpMDogPGdlbmVyaWMgcGFyYWxsZWwgaS9vPiBvbiBwcGJ1cyAw DQpwbGlwMDogPFBMSVAgbmV0d29yayBpbnRlcmZhY2U+IG9uIHBwYnVzIDAN CnZnYTAgYXQgMHgzYjAtMHgzZGYgbWFkZHIgMHhhMDAwMCBtc2l6ZSAxMzEw NzIgb24gaXNhDQpucHgwIG9uIG1vdGhlcmJvYXJkDQpucHgwOiBJTlQgMTYg aW50ZXJmYWNlDQpJUCBwYWNrZXQgZmlsdGVyaW5nIGluaXRpYWxpemVkLCBk aXZlcnQgZGlzYWJsZWQsIHJ1bGUtYmFzZWQgZm9yd2FyZGluZyBkaXNhYmxl ZCwgbG9nZ2luZyBsaW1pdGVkIHRvIDEwMDAgcGFja2V0cy9lbnRyeQ0KY2hh bmdpbmcgcm9vdCBkZXZpY2UgdG8gZGEwczFhDQpkYTAgYXQgYWhjMCBidXMg MCB0YXJnZXQgMSBsdW4gMA0KZGEwOiA8UVVBTlRVTSBGSVJFQkFMTCBTRTgu NFMgUEowQT4gRml4ZWQgRGlyZWN0IEFjY2VzcyBTQ1NJLTIgZGV2aWNlIA0K ZGEwOiAxMC4wMDBNQi9zIHRyYW5zZmVycyAoMTAuMDAwTUh6LCBvZmZzZXQg MTUpLCBUYWdnZWQgUXVldWVpbmcgRW5hYmxlZA0KZGEwOiA4MTkxTUIgKDE2 Nzc3MjE1IDUxMiBieXRlIHNlY3RvcnM6IDY0SCAzMlMvVCA4MTkxQykNCldB Uk5JTkc6IC8gd2FzIG5vdCBwcm9wZXJseSBkaXNtb3VudGVkDQpmZnNfbW91 bnRmczogc3VwZXJibG9jayB1cGRhdGVkIGZvciBzb2Z0IHVwZGF0ZXMNCmZm c19tb3VudGZzOiBzdXBlcmJsb2NrIHVwZGF0ZWQgZm9yIHNvZnQgdXBkYXRl cw0KY3kwOiAxIG1vcmUgc2lsbyBvdmVyZmxvdyAodG90YWwgMSkNCmN5Nzog MSBtb3JlIHNpbG8gb3ZlcmZsb3cgKHRvdGFsIDEpDQo= --0-1387050216-935665222=:5037-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 6:33:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isy.liu.se (isy.liu.se [130.236.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFACE15ACA for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:33:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mj@lagrange.isy.liu.se) Received: from lagrange.isy.liu.se (lagrange.isy.liu.se [130.236.49.127]) by isy.liu.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04355 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:33:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:33:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Micke Josefsson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Tandberg SLR5 problems, please help! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have stumbled over a quite serious problem (for me anyway): With a 3.0-SNAP from around August 1998 I have made a number of backups via 'dump' to my Tandberg SLR5 scsi tape drive. After installing 3.2 the other week I would like to be able to read my old backups - and cannot. I get a 'tape: input/output error' every time I try to restore. I have tried to 'cat /dev/nrsa0'. With tapes I made today I can cat happily but with the old tapes I always get the above error. I have tried to set density with 'mt density QIC-2GB' but never succeeded, and I am quite sure I have not set any density in the past. But used the default for the drive. Back then the device was called /dev/nrst0 and now it is apparently /dev/nrsa0. Making new dumps/restores with nrsa0 goes without any problems at all. What can I do? Is there a revision of dump/restore protocol between 3.0-SNAP and 3.2? Is there ANYTHING I can do to get my data back - even if it entails getting it to file and use vi to extract the files I want? Is this a general problem, i.e. that old dumps don't read with new OS versions? (I hope not). So there you are, any tips are welcome! /Micke BTW. I do not have the dist of 3.0-SNAP as I downloaded it from the net, so I can't reinstall that version:( ---------------------------------- Michael Josefsson, MSEE Linköping University mj@isy.liu.se This message was sent by XFMail running on FreeBSD 3.1 ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 6:50: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from reliant.pmr.com (reliant.pmr.com [207.170.114.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64F014F61 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wayne@reliant.pmr.com) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by reliant.pmr.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA16473; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:47:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from wayne) Message-ID: <19990826084751.A16420@reliant.pmr.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:47:51 -0500 From: Wayne Willcox To: Alexander Langer , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Reply-To: Wayne Willcox References: <199908252012.WAA92930@gratis.grondar.za> <199908252010.NAA00737@dingo.cdrom.com> <19990826104258.B425@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: <19990826104258.B425@cichlids.cichlids.com>; from Alexander Langer on Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 10:42:58AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 10:42:58AM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake Mike Smith (mike@smith.net.au): > > > > Methinks he found the type of hole in our documentation that gives > > > software a bad name :-). > > Did he happen to look at "The Complete FreeBSD"? > > The complete FreeBSD costs money. True but it is money well spent, I find alot of my answers in it. > > I had the same problems when I was new to FreeBSD, although I had used > Linux quite a while before. > > I used "cat /etc/fstab" to find out the device. > > Alex > > -- > ************** I doubt, therefore I might be. ************** > *** Send email to to get PGP-Key *** -- Slowly and surely the unix crept up on the Nintendo user ... Wayne Willcox I will not eat green eggs and ham wayne@reliant.pmr.com I will not eat them Sam I Am!! A wise person makes his own decisions, a weak one obeys public opinion. -- Chinese proverb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 7:14:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29E514F83 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:14:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01552; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:11:49 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199908261411.QAA01552@gratis.grondar.za> To: Wayne Willcox Cc: Alexander Langer , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:11:48 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 10:42:58AM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote: > > Thus spake Mike Smith (mike@smith.net.au): > > > > > > Methinks he found the type of hole in our documentation that gives > > > > software a bad name :-). > > > Did he happen to look at "The Complete FreeBSD"? > > > > The complete FreeBSD costs money. > > True but it is money well spent, I find alot of my answers in it. Useless concept when you need an answer at 3am :-) and you have no book. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 7:33:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uncle.cult.cu (uncle.cult.cu [169.158.120.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CCF14D59 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:28:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elie@uncle.cult.cu) Received: from localhost (72923 bytes) by uncle.cult.cu via sendmail with P:stdio/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:28:03 -0400 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #4 built 1998-Sep-15) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:28:03 -0400 (CDT) From: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings to everyone: Yesterday I just downloaded via CVSup the full source tree, for the stable branch to my running system. I have previously read the "Making the world" your own tutorial posted in the FreeBSD handbook, very carefully to follow the instructions. But I got dissapointed when the time to type make buildworld came, it started but not to long ago it suddenly stopped complaining about a missing file or missing files. I include here the output sent to a file via the script command, where it shows at the end what have failed. I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.6, 32 MB RAM, P MMX 233 MHz. I want to upgrade to 3.x stable. Could someone give me a hint on this matter please ? script command output follows: Script started on Thu Aug 26 10:23:28 1999 sh-2.01# make build=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08= =08 =08=08 =08cd /usr/src sh-2.01# make buildworld -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Cleaning up the temporary elf build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/ rm -rf /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Making make -------------------------------------------------------------- mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make ( cd /usr/src/usr.bin/make; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D""; unset MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX= ; PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/= usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/local/amanda/bin:/usr/loc= al/xaudio:/usr/hosts:/usr/local/man:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/loca= l/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/qt/bin:/usr/local/kde/bin BISON_SIMPLE=3D/u= sr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=3D/usr/obj/us= r/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=3D/usr/= obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D/u= sr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/us= r/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=3Dt OBJFORMAT_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/= src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec MAKEOBJDIR=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make mak= e DESTDIR=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -I/usr/src/share/mk -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOP= IC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED all; PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/u= sr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/= usr/local/amanda/bin:/usr/local/xaudio:/usr/hosts:/usr/local/man:/sbin:/usr= /sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/qt/bin:/usr/lo= cal/kde/bin BISON_SIMPLE=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple= COMPILER_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr= /bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/u= sr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=3D/us= r/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=3Dt O= BJFORMAT_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec MAKEOBJDIR=3D= /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make make DESTDIR=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -I/usr/src/sh= are/mk -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED install; PATH=3D/us= r/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/b= in:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/local/amanda/bin:/usr/local/xaudio:/us= r/hosts:/usr/local/man:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X1= 1R6/bin:/usr/local/qt/bin:/usr/local/kde/bin BISON_SIMPLE=3D/usr/obj/usr/sr= c/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr= /libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/t= mp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/sr= c/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src= /tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=3Dt OBJFORMAT_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/l= ibexec:/usr/libexec MAKEOBJDIR=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make make DESTDIR=3D/= usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -I/usr/src/share/mk -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFIL= E -DNOSHARED clean ) cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/arch.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/compat.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/cond.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/dir.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/for.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/hash.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/job.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/main.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/make.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/parse.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/str.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/suff.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/targ.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/var.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/util.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstAppend.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstAtEnd.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstAtFront.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstClose.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstConcat.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstDatum.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstDeQueue.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstDestroy.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstDupl.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstEnQueue.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstFind.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstFindFrom.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstFirst.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstForEach.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstForEachFrom.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstInit.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstInsert.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstIsAtEnd.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstIsEmpty.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstLast.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstMember.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstNext.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstOpen.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstRemove.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstReplace.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c= /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstSucc.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -= static -o make arch.o buf.o compat.o cond.o dir.o for.o hash.o job.o main.o= make.o parse.o str.o suff.o targ.o var.o util.o lstAppend.o lstAtEnd.o lst= AtFront.o lstClose.o lstConcat.o lstDatum.o lstDeQueue.o lstDestroy.o lstDu= pl.o lstEnQueue.o lstFind.o lstFindFrom.o lstFirst.o lstForEach.o lstForEac= hFrom.o lstInit.o lstInsert.o lstIsAtEnd.o lstIsEmpty.o lstLast.o lstMember= =2Eo lstNext.o lstOpen.o lstRemove.o lstReplace.o lstSucc.o =20 install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 make /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin rm -f make arch.o buf.o compat.o cond.o dir.o for.o hash.o job.o main.o mak= e.o parse.o str.o suff.o targ.o var.o util.o lstAppend.o lstAtEnd.o lstAtFr= ont.o lstClose.o lstConcat.o lstDatum.o lstDeQueue.o lstDestroy.o lstDupl.o= lstEnQueue.o lstFind.o lstFindFrom.o lstFirst.o lstForEach.o lstForEachFro= m.o lstInit.o lstInsert.o lstIsAtEnd.o lstIsEmpty.o lstLast.o lstMember.o l= stNext.o lstOpen.o lstRemove.o lstReplace.o lstSucc.o -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Making mtree -------------------------------------------------------------- mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/mtree ( cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D""; unset MAKEOBJDIRPREF= IX; export MAKEOBJDIR=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/mtree; PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/s= rc/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj= /usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/local/amanda/bin:/usr/local/xaudio:/usr/hosts:/us= r/local/man:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/us= r/local/qt/bin:/usr/local/kde/bin BISON_SIMPLE=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/s= hare/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/u= sr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:= /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/l= ib LIBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/li= b NOEXTRADEPEND=3Dt OBJFORMAT_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr= /libexec /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make DESTDIR=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -= DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED all; PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/sr= c/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/= usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/local/amanda/bin:/usr/local/xaudio:/usr/hosts:/usr= /local/man:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr= /local/qt/bin:/usr/local/kde/bin BISON_SIMPLE=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sh= are/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/us= r/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/= usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/li= b LIBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib= NOEXTRADEPEND=3Dt OBJFORMAT_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/= libexec /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make DESTDIR=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -D= NOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED -B install clean ) cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree= /compare.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree= /../../usr.bin/cksum/crc.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree= /create.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree= /misc.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree= /mtree.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree= /spec.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree= /verify.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -static -o mtree compare.= o crc.o create.o misc.o mtree.o spec.o verify.o -lmd install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 mtree /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin rm -f mtree compare.o crc.o create.o misc.o mtree.o spec.o verify.o -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Making hierarchy -------------------------------------------------------------- mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp cd /usr/src; PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin= :/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/local/amanda/bi= n:/usr/local/xaudio:/usr/hosts:/usr/local/man:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin= :/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/qt/bin:/usr/local/kde/bin BISON_S= IMPLE=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=3D/= usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREF= IX=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY= _PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/u= sr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=3Dt OBJFORMAT_PATH=3D/us= r/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/mak= e DESTDIR=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -f Makefile.inc1 hierarchy cd /usr/src/etc;=09=09/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make distrib-dirs mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/ missing: ./bin (created) missing: ./boot (created) missing: ./boot/defaults (created) missing: ./dev (created) missing: ./dev/fd (created) missing: ./etc (created) missing: ./etc/defaults (created) missing: ./etc/periodic (created) missing: ./etc/periodic/daily (created) missing: ./etc/periodic/weekly (created) missing: ./etc/periodic/monthly (created) missing: ./etc/gnats (created) missing: ./etc/isdn (created) missing: ./etc/kerberosIV (created) missing: ./etc/mail (created) missing: ./etc/mtree (created) missing: ./etc/namedb (created) missing: ./etc/ppp (created) missing: ./etc/skel (created) missing: ./etc/uucp (created) missing: ./lkm (created) missing: ./mnt 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./netatm (created) missing: ./netinet (created) missing: ./netipx (created) missing: ./netkey (created) missing: ./netns (created) missing: ./nfs (created) missing: ./objc (created) missing: ./pccard (created) missing: ./posix4 (created) missing: ./protocols (created) missing: ./readline (created) missing: ./rpc (created) missing: ./rpcsvc (created) missing: ./security (created) missing: ./ss (created) missing: ./sys (created) missing: ./ufs (created) missing: ./ufs/ffs (created) missing: ./ufs/mfs (created) missing: ./ufs/ufs (created) missing: ./vm (created) cd /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/; rm -f /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sys; ln -s usr/src/sys= sys cd /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/locale; set - `cat /usr/src/etc/locale.a= lias`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf "$1"; ln -s "$2" "$1"; shift; sh= ift; done cd /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/nls; set - `cat /usr/src/etc/locale.alia= s`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf "$1"; ln -s "$2" "$1"; shift; shift= ; done; rm -rf POSIX; ln -s C POSIX -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Cleaning up the elf obj tree -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin= :/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/local/amanda/bi= n:/usr/local/xaudio:/usr/hosts:/usr/local/man:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin= :/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/qt/bin:/usr/local/kde/bin BISON_S= IMPLE=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=3D/= usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREF= IX=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY= _PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/u= sr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=3Dt OBJFORMAT_PATH=3D/us= r/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/mak= e DESTDIR=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -f Makefile.inc1 par-cleandir =3D=3D=3D> share/info =3D=3D=3D> include rm -f osreldate.h version vers.c =20 =3D=3D=3D> include/rpcsvc rm -f key_prot.h klm_prot.h mount.h nfs_prot.h nlm_prot.h rex.h rnusers.h = rquota.h rstat.h rwall.h sm_inter.h spray.h yppasswd.h yp.h ypxfrd.h ypupd= ate_prot.h nis.h nis_cache.h nis_callback.h bootparam_prot.h crypt.h =20 =3D=3D=3D> include/rpcsvc =3D=3D=3D> include/rpcsvc rm -f key_prot.h klm_prot.h mount.h nfs_prot.h nlm_prot.h rex.h rnusers.h = rquota.h rstat.h rwall.h sm_inter.h spray.h yppasswd.h yp.h ypxfrd.h ypupd= ate_prot.h nis.h nis_cache.h nis_callback.h bootparam_prot.h crypt.h =20 =3D=3D=3D> lib =3D=3D=3D> lib/libcom_err rm -f a.out com_err.o error_message.o et_name.o init_et.o com_err.o.tmp er= ror_message.o.tmp et_name.o.tmp init_et.o.tmp com_err.3.gz com_err.3.cat.gz rm -f libcom_err.a # llib-lcom_err.ln rm -f com_err.po error_message.po et_name.po init_et.po com_err.po.tmp err= or_message.po.tmp et_name.po.tmp init_et.po.tmp libcom_err_p.a rm -f com_err.So error_message.So et_name.So init_et.So com_err.so error_me= ssage.so et_name.so init_et.so com_err.So.tmp error_message.So.tmp et_name.= So.tmp init_et.So.tmp libcom_err.so.2 libcom_err.so libcom_err.so.* libco= m_err.so libcom_err_pic.a =3D=3D=3D> lib/libcom_err/doc rm -f com_err.info com_err.info.gz rm -f .depend /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/GPATH /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/GRTAGS = /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/GSYMS /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/GTAGS =3D=3D=3D> lib/libcom_err/doc =3D=3D=3D> lib/libcom_err/doc rm -f com_err.info com_err.info.gz =3D=3D=3D> lib/../secure/lib/libcrypt rm -f a.out crypt.o crypt-md5.o md5c.o crypt.o.tmp crypt-md5.o.tmp md5c.o.= tmp crypt.3.gz crypt.3.cat.gz rm -f libdescrypt.a # llib-ldescrypt.ln rm -f crypt.po crypt-md5.po md5c.po crypt.po.tmp crypt-md5.po.tmp md5c.po.= tmp libdescrypt_p.a rm -f crypt.So crypt-md5.So md5c.So crypt.so crypt-md5.so md5c.so crypt.So.= tmp crypt-md5.So.tmp md5c.So.tmp libdescrypt.so.2 libdescrypt.so libdescr= ypt.so.* libdescrypt.so libdescrypt_pic.a rm -f .depend /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/GPATH /usr/src/secure/lib/libcry= pt/GRTAGS /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/GSYMS /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/= GTAGS =3D=3D=3D> lib/libcrypt rm -f a.out crypt.o md5c.o crypt.o.tmp md5c.o.tmp=20 rm -f libscrypt.a # llib-lscrypt.ln rm -f crypt.po md5c.po crypt.po.tmp md5c.po.tmp libscrypt_p.a rm -f crypt.So md5c.So crypt.so md5c.so crypt.So.tmp md5c.So.tmp libscrypt= =2Eso.2 libscrypt.so libscrypt.so.* libscrypt.so libscrypt_pic.a rm -f .depend /usr/src/lib/libcrypt/GPATH /usr/src/lib/libcrypt/GRTAGS /us= r/src/lib/libcrypt/GSYMS /usr/src/lib/libcrypt/GTAGS =3D=3D=3D> lib/msun rm -f a.out e_acos.o e_acosf.o e_acosh.o e_acoshf.o e_asin.o e_asinf.o e_at= an2.o e_atan2f.o e_atanh.o e_atanhf.o e_cosh.o e_coshf.o e_exp.o e_expf.o e= _fmod.o e_fmodf.o e_gamma.o e_gamma_r.o e_gammaf.o e_gammaf_r.o e_hypot.o e= _hypotf.o e_j0.o e_j0f.o e_j1.o e_j1f.o e_jn.o e_jnf.o e_lgamma.o e_lgamma_= r.o e_lgammaf.o e_lgammaf_r.o e_log.o e_log10.o e_log10f.o e_logf.o e_pow.o= e_powf.o e_rem_pio2.o e_rem_pio2f.o e_remainder.o e_remainderf.o e_scalb.o= e_scalbf.o e_sinh.o e_sinhf.o e_sqrt.o e_sqrtf.o get_hw_float.o k_cos.o k_= cosf.o k_rem_pio2.o k_rem_pio2f.o k_sin.o k_sinf.o k_standard.o k_tan.o k_t= anf.o s_asinh.o s_asinhf.o s_atan.o s_atanf.o s_cbrt.o s_cbrtf.o s_ceil.o s= _ceilf.o s_copysign.o s_copysignf.o s_cos.o s_cosf.o s_erf.o s_erff.o s_exp= m1.o s_expm1f.o s_fabsf.o s_finite.o s_finitef.o s_floor.o s_floorf.o s_fre= xpf.o s_ilogb.o s_ilogbf.o s_isnanf.o s_ldexpf.o s_lib_version.o s_log1p.o = s_log1pf.o s_logb.o s_logbf.o s_matherr.o s_modff.o s_nextafter.o s_nextaft= erf.o s_rint.o s_rintf.o s_scalbn.o s_scalbnf.o s_signgam.o s_significand.o= s_significandf.o s_sin.o s_sinf.o s_tan.o s_tanf.o s_tanh.o s_tanhf.o w_ac= os.o w_acosf.o w_acosh.o w_acoshf.o w_asin.o w_asinf.o w_atan2.o w_atan2f.o= w_atanh.o w_atanhf.o w_cabs.o w_cabsf.o w_cosh.o w_coshf.o w_drem.o w_drem= f.o w_exp.o w_expf.o w_fmod.o w_fmodf.o w_gamma.o w_gamma_r.o w_gammaf.o w_= gammaf_r.o w_hypot.o w_hypotf.o w_j0.o w_j0f.o w_j1.o w_j1f.o w_jn.o w_jnf.= o w_lgamma.o w_lgamma_r.o w_lgammaf.o w_lgammaf_r.o w_log.o w_log10.o w_log= 10f.o w_logf.o w_pow.o w_powf.o w_remainder.o w_remainderf.o w_scalb.o w_sc= albf.o w_sinh.o w_sinhf.o w_sqrt.o w_sqrtf.o w_y0.o w_y0f.o w_y1.o w_y1f.o = w_yn.o w_ynf.o e_acos.o.tmp e_acosf.o.tmp e_acosh.o.tmp e_acoshf.o.tmp e_a= sin.o.tmp e_asinf.o.tmp e_atan2.o.tmp e_atan2f.o.tmp e_atanh.o.tmp e_atanhf= =2Eo.tmp e_cosh.o.tmp e_coshf.o.tmp e_exp.o.tmp e_expf.o.tmp e_fmod.o.tmp e= _fmodf.o.tmp e_gamma.o.tmp e_gamma_r.o.tmp e_gammaf.o.tmp e_gammaf_r.o.tmp = e_hypot.o.tmp e_hypotf.o.tmp e_j0.o.tmp e_j0f.o.tmp e_j1.o.tmp e_j1f.o.tmp = e_jn.o.tmp e_jnf.o.tmp e_lgamma.o.tmp e_lgamma_r.o.tmp e_lgammaf.o.tmp e_lg= ammaf_r.o.tmp e_log.o.tmp e_log10.o.tmp e_log10f.o.tmp e_logf.o.tmp e_pow.o= =2Etmp e_powf.o.tmp e_rem_pio2.o.tmp e_rem_pio2f.o.tmp e_remainder.o.tmp e_= remainderf.o.tmp e_scalb.o.tmp e_scalbf.o.tmp e_sinh.o.tmp e_sinhf.o.tmp e_= sqrt.o.tmp e_sqrtf.o.tmp get_hw_float.o.tmp k_cos.o.tmp k_cosf.o.tmp k_rem_= pio2.o.tmp k_rem_pio2f.o.tmp k_sin.o.tmp k_sinf.o.tmp k_standard.o.tmp k_ta= n.o.tmp k_tanf.o.tmp s_asinh.o.tmp s_asinhf.o.tmp s_atan.o.tmp s_atanf.o.tm= p s_cbrt.o.tmp s_cbrtf.o.tmp s_ceil.o.tmp s_ceilf.o.tmp s_copysign.o.tmp s_= copysignf.o.tmp s_cos.o.tmp s_cosf.o.tmp s_erf.o.tmp s_erff.o.tmp s_expm1.o= =2Etmp s_expm1f.o.tmp s_fabsf.o.tmp s_finite.o.tmp s_finitef.o.tmp s_floor.= o.tmp s_floorf.o.tmp s_frexpf.o.tmp s_ilogb.o.tmp s_ilogbf.o.tmp s_isnanf.o= =2Etmp s_ldexpf.o.tmp s_lib_version.o.tmp s_log1p.o.tmp s_log1pf.o.tmp s_lo= gb.o.tmp s_logbf.o.tmp s_matherr.o.tmp s_modff.o.tmp s_nextafter.o.tmp s_ne= xtafterf.o.tmp s_rint.o.tmp s_rintf.o.tmp s_scalbn.o.tmp s_scalbnf.o.tmp s_= signgam.o.tmp s_significand.o.tmp s_significandf.o.tmp s_sin.o.tmp s_sinf.o= =2Etmp s_tan.o.tmp s_tanf.o.tmp s_tanh.o.tmp s_tanhf.o.tmp w_acos.o.tmp w_a= cosf.o.tmp w_acosh.o.tmp w_acoshf.o.tmp w_asin.o.tmp w_asinf.o.tmp w_atan2.= o.tmp w_atan2f.o.tmp w_atanh.o.tmp w_atanhf.o.tmp w_cabs.o.tmp w_cabsf.o.tm= p w_cosh.o.tmp w_coshf.o.tmp w_drem.o.tmp w_dremf.o.tmp w_exp.o.tmp w_expf.= o.tmp w_fmod.o.tmp w_fmodf.o.tmp w_gamma.o.tmp w_gamma_r.o.tmp w_gammaf.o.t= mp w_gammaf_r.o.tmp w_hypot.o.tmp w_hypotf.o.tmp w_j0.o.tmp w_j0f.o.tmp w_j= 1.o.tmp w_j1f.o.tmp w_jn.o.tmp w_jnf.o.tmp w_lgamma.o.tmp w_lgamma_r.o.tmp = w_lgammaf.o.tmp w_lgammaf_r.o.tmp w_log.o.tmp w_log10.o.tmp w_log10f.o.tmp = w_logf.o.tmp w_pow.o.tmp w_powf.o.tmp w_remainder.o.tmp w_remainderf.o.tmp = w_scalb.o.tmp w_scalbf.o.tmp w_sinh.o.tmp w_sinhf.o.tmp w_sqrt.o.tmp w_sqrt= f.o.tmp w_y0.o.tmp w_y0f.o.tmp w_y1.o.tmp w_y1f.o.tmp w_yn.o.tmp w_ynf.o.tm= p acos.3.gz acosh.3.gz asin.3.gz asinh.3.gz atan.3.gz atan2.3.gz atanh.3.g= z ceil.3.gz cos.3.gz cosh.3.gz erf.3.gz exp.3.gz fabs.3.gz floor.3.gz fmod.= 3.gz hypot.3.gz ieee.3.gz ieee_test.3.gz j0.3.gz lgamma.3.gz math.3.gz rint= =2E3.gz sin.3.gz sinh.3.gz sqrt.3.gz tan.3.gz tanh.3.gz acos.3.cat.gz acosh= =2E3.cat.gz asin.3.cat.gz asinh.3.cat.gz atan.3.cat.gz atan2.3.cat.gz atanh= =2E3.cat.gz ceil.3.cat.gz cos.3.cat.gz cosh.3.cat.gz erf.3.cat.gz exp.3.cat= =2Egz fabs.3.cat.gz floor.3.cat.gz fmod.3.cat.gz hypot.3.cat.gz ieee.3.cat.= gz ieee_test.3.cat.gz j0.3.cat.gz lgamma.3.cat.gz math.3.cat.gz rint.3.cat.= gz sin.3.cat.gz sinh.3.cat.gz sqrt.3.cat.gz tan.3.cat.gz tanh.3.cat.gz rm -f libm.a # llib-lm.ln rm -f e_acos.po e_acosf.po e_acosh.po e_acoshf.po e_asin.po e_asinf.po e_at= an2.po e_atan2f.po e_atanh.po e_atanhf.po e_cosh.po e_coshf.po e_exp.po e_e= xpf.po e_fmod.po e_fmodf.po e_gamma.po e_gamma_r.po e_gammaf.po e_gammaf_r.= po e_hypot.po e_hypotf.po e_j0.po e_j0f.po e_j1.po e_j1f.po e_jn.po e_jnf.p= o e_lgamma.po e_lgamma_r.po e_lgammaf.po e_lgammaf_r.po e_log.po e_log10.po= e_log10f.po e_logf.po e_pow.po e_powf.po e_rem_pio2.po e_rem_pio2f.po e_re= mainder.po e_remainderf.po e_scalb.po e_scalbf.po e_sinh.po e_sinhf.po e_sq= rt.po e_sqrtf.po get_hw_float.po k_cos.po k_cosf.po k_rem_pio2.po k_rem_pio= 2f.po k_sin.po k_sinf.po k_standard.po k_tan.po k_tanf.po s_asinh.po s_asin= hf.po s_atan.po s_atanf.po s_cbrt.po s_cbrtf.po s_ceil.po s_ceilf.po s_copy= sign.po s_copysignf.po s_cos.po s_cosf.po s_erf.po s_erff.po s_expm1.po s_e= xpm1f.po s_fabsf.po s_finite.po s_finitef.po s_floor.po s_floorf.po s_frexp= f.po s_ilogb.po s_ilogbf.po s_isnanf.po s_ldexpf.po s_lib_version.po s_log1= p.po s_log1pf.po s_logb.po s_logbf.po s_matherr.po s_modff.po s_nextafter.p= o s_nextafterf.po s_rint.po s_rintf.po s_scalbn.po s_scalbnf.po s_signgam.p= o s_significand.po s_significandf.po s_sin.po s_sinf.po s_tan.po s_tanf.po = s_tanh.po s_tanhf.po w_acos.po w_acosf.po w_acosh.po w_acoshf.po w_asin.po = w_asinf.po w_atan2.po w_atan2f.po w_atanh.po w_atanhf.po w_cabs.po w_cabsf.= po w_cosh.po w_coshf.po w_drem.po w_dremf.po w_exp.po w_expf.po w_fmod.po w= _fmodf.po w_gamma.po w_gamma_r.po w_gammaf.po w_gammaf_r.po w_hypot.po w_hy= potf.po w_j0.po w_j0f.po w_j1.po w_j1f.po w_jn.po w_jnf.po w_lgamma.po w_lg= amma_r.po w_lgammaf.po w_lgammaf_r.po w_log.po w_log10.po w_log10f.po w_log= f.po w_pow.po w_powf.po w_remainder.po w_remainderf.po w_scalb.po w_scalbf.= po w_sinh.po w_sinhf.po w_sqrt.po w_sqrtf.po w_y0.po w_y0f.po w_y1.po w_y1f= =2Epo w_yn.po w_ynf.po e_acos.po.tmp e_acosf.po.tmp e_acosh.po.tmp e_acosh= f.po.tmp e_asin.po.tmp e_asinf.po.tmp e_atan2.po.tmp e_atan2f.po.tmp e_atan= h.po.tmp e_atanhf.po.tmp e_cosh.po.tmp e_coshf.po.tmp e_exp.po.tmp e_expf.p= o.tmp e_fmod.po.tmp e_fmodf.po.tmp e_gamma.po.tmp e_gamma_r.po.tmp e_gammaf= =2Epo.tmp e_gammaf_r.po.tmp e_hypot.po.tmp e_hypotf.po.tmp e_j0.po.tmp e_j0= f.po.tmp e_j1.po.tmp e_j1f.po.tmp e_jn.po.tmp e_jnf.po.tmp e_lgamma.po.tmp = e_lgamma_r.po.tmp e_lgammaf.po.tmp e_lgammaf_r.po.tmp e_log.po.tmp e_log10.= po.tmp e_log10f.po.tmp e_logf.po.tmp e_pow.po.tmp e_powf.po.tmp e_rem_pio2.= po.tmp e_rem_pio2f.po.tmp e_remainder.po.tmp e_remainderf.po.tmp e_scalb.po= =2Etmp e_scalbf.po.tmp e_sinh.po.tmp e_sinhf.po.tmp e_sqrt.po.tmp e_sqrtf.p= o.tmp get_hw_float.po.tmp k_cos.po.tmp k_cosf.po.tmp k_rem_pio2.po.tmp k_re= m_pio2f.po.tmp k_sin.po.tmp k_sinf.po.tmp k_standard.po.tmp k_tan.po.tmp k_= tanf.po.tmp s_asinh.po.tmp s_asinhf.po.tmp s_atan.po.tmp s_atanf.po.tmp s_c= brt.po.tmp s_cbrtf.po.tmp s_ceil.po.tmp s_ceilf.po.tmp s_copysign.po.tmp s_= copysignf.po.tmp s_cos.po.tmp s_cosf.po.tmp s_erf.po.tmp s_erff.po.tmp s_ex= pm1.po.tmp s_expm1f.po.tmp s_fabsf.po.tmp s_finite.po.tmp s_finitef.po.tmp = s_floor.po.tmp s_floorf.po.tmp s_frexpf.po.tmp s_ilogb.po.tmp s_ilogbf.po.t= mp s_isnanf.po.tmp s_ldexpf.po.tmp s_lib_version.po.tmp s_log1p.po.tmp s_lo= g1pf.po.tmp s_logb.po.tmp s_logbf.po.tmp s_matherr.po.tmp s_modff.po.tmp s_= nextafter.po.tmp s_nextafterf.po.tmp s_rint.po.tmp s_rintf.po.tmp s_scalbn.= po.tmp s_scalbnf.po.tmp s_signgam.po.tmp s_significand.po.tmp s_significand= f.po.tmp s_sin.po.tmp s_sinf.po.tmp s_tan.po.tmp s_tanf.po.tmp s_tanh.po.tm= p s_tanhf.po.tmp w_acos.po.tmp w_acosf.po.tmp w_acosh.po.tmp w_acoshf.po.tm= p w_asin.po.tmp w_asinf.po.tmp w_atan2.po.tmp w_atan2f.po.tmp w_atanh.po.tm= p w_atanhf.po.tmp w_cabs.po.tmp w_cabsf.po.tmp w_cosh.po.tmp w_coshf.po.tmp= w_drem.po.tmp w_dremf.po.tmp w_exp.po.tmp w_expf.po.tmp w_fmod.po.tmp w_fm= odf.po.tmp w_gamma.po.tmp w_gamma_r.po.tmp w_gammaf.po.tmp w_gammaf_r.po.tm= p w_hypot.po.tmp w_hypotf.po.tmp w_j0.po.tmp w_j0f.po.tmp w_j1.po.tmp w_j1f= =2Epo.tmp w_jn.po.tmp w_jnf.po.tmp w_lgamma.po.tmp w_lgamma_r.po.tmp w_lgam= maf.po.tmp w_lgammaf_r.po.tmp w_log.po.tmp w_log10.po.tmp w_log10f.po.tmp w= _logf.po.tmp w_pow.po.tmp w_powf.po.tmp w_remainder.po.tmp w_remainderf.po.= tmp w_scalb.po.tmp w_scalbf.po.tmp w_sinh.po.tmp w_sinhf.po.tmp w_sqrt.po.t= mp w_sqrtf.po.tmp w_y0.po.tmp w_y0f.po.tmp w_y1.po.tmp w_y1f.po.tmp w_yn.po= =2Etmp w_ynf.po.tmp libm_p.a rm -f e_acos.So e_acosf.So e_acosh.So e_acoshf.So e_asin.So e_asinf.So e_at= an2.So e_atan2f.So e_atanh.So e_atanhf.So e_cosh.So e_coshf.So e_exp.So e_e= xpf.So e_fmod.So e_fmodf.So e_gamma.So e_gamma_r.So e_gammaf.So e_gammaf_r.= So e_hypot.So e_hypotf.So e_j0.So e_j0f.So e_j1.So e_j1f.So e_jn.So e_jnf.S= o e_lgamma.So e_lgamma_r.So e_lgammaf.So e_lgammaf_r.So e_log.So e_log10.So= e_log10f.So e_logf.So e_pow.So e_powf.So e_rem_pio2.So e_rem_pio2f.So e_re= mainder.So e_remainderf.So e_scalb.So e_scalbf.So e_sinh.So e_sinhf.So e_sq= rt.So e_sqrtf.So get_hw_float.So k_cos.So k_cosf.So k_rem_pio2.So k_rem_pio= 2f.So k_sin.So k_sinf.So k_standard.So k_tan.So k_tanf.So s_asinh.So s_asin= hf.So s_atan.So s_atanf.So s_cbrt.So s_cbrtf.So s_ceil.So s_ceilf.So s_copy= sign.So s_copysignf.So s_cos.So s_cosf.So s_erf.So s_erff.So s_expm1.So s_e= xpm1f.So s_fabsf.So s_finite.So s_finitef.So s_floor.So s_floorf.So s_frexp= f.So s_ilogb.So s_ilogbf.So s_isnanf.So s_ldexpf.So s_lib_version.So s_log1= p.So s_log1pf.So s_logb.So s_logbf.So s_matherr.So s_modff.So s_nextafter.S= o s_nextafterf.So s_rint.So s_rintf.So s_scalbn.So s_scalbnf.So s_signgam.S= o s_significand.So s_significandf.So s_sin.So s_sinf.So s_tan.So s_tanf.So = s_tanh.So s_tanhf.So w_acos.So w_acosf.So w_acosh.So w_acoshf.So w_asin.So = w_asinf.So w_atan2.So w_atan2f.So w_atanh.So w_atanhf.So w_cabs.So w_cabsf.= So w_cosh.So w_coshf.So w_drem.So w_dremf.So w_exp.So w_expf.So w_fmod.So w= _fmodf.So w_gamma.So w_gamma_r.So w_gammaf.So w_gammaf_r.So w_hypot.So w_hy= potf.So w_j0.So w_j0f.So w_j1.So w_j1f.So w_jn.So w_jnf.So w_lgamma.So w_lg= amma_r.So w_lgammaf.So w_lgammaf_r.So w_log.So w_log10.So w_log10f.So w_log= f.So w_pow.So w_powf.So w_remainder.So w_remainderf.So w_scalb.So w_scalbf.= So w_sinh.So w_sinhf.So w_sqrt.So w_sqrtf.So w_y0.So w_y0f.So w_y1.So w_y1f= =2ESo w_yn.So w_ynf.So e_acos.so e_acosf.so e_acosh.so e_acoshf.so e_asin.s= o e_asinf.so e_atan2.so e_atan2f.so e_atanh.so e_atanhf.so e_cosh.so e_cosh= f.so e_exp.so e_expf.so e_fmod.so e_fmodf.so e_gamma.so e_gamma_r.so e_gamm= af.so e_gammaf_r.so e_hypot.so e_hypotf.so e_j0.so e_j0f.so e_j1.so e_j1f.s= o e_jn.so e_jnf.so e_lgamma.so e_lgamma_r.so e_lgammaf.so e_lgammaf_r.so e_= log.so e_log10.so e_log10f.so e_logf.so e_pow.so e_powf.so e_rem_pio2.so e_= rem_pio2f.so e_remainder.so e_remainderf.so e_scalb.so e_scalbf.so e_sinh.s= o e_sinhf.so e_sqrt.so e_sqrtf.so get_hw_float.so k_cos.so k_cosf.so k_rem_= pio2.so k_rem_pio2f.so k_sin.so k_sinf.so k_standard.so k_tan.so k_tanf.so = s_asinh.so s_asinhf.so s_atan.so s_atanf.so s_cbrt.so s_cbrtf.so s_ceil.so = s_ceilf.so s_copysign.so s_copysignf.so s_cos.so s_cosf.so s_erf.so s_erff.= so s_expm1.so s_expm1f.so s_fabsf.so s_finite.so s_finitef.so s_floor.so s_= floorf.so s_frexpf.so s_ilogb.so s_ilogbf.so s_isnanf.so s_ldexpf.so s_lib_= version.so s_log1p.so s_log1pf.so s_logb.so s_logbf.so s_matherr.so s_modff= =2Eso s_nextafter.so s_nextafterf.so s_rint.so s_rintf.so s_scalbn.so s_sca= lbnf.so s_signgam.so s_significand.so s_significandf.so s_sin.so s_sinf.so = s_tan.so s_tanf.so s_tanh.so s_tanhf.so w_acos.so w_acosf.so w_acosh.so w_a= coshf.so w_asin.so w_asinf.so w_atan2.so w_atan2f.so w_atanh.so w_atanhf.so= w_cabs.so w_cabsf.so w_cosh.so w_coshf.so w_drem.so w_dremf.so w_exp.so w_= expf.so w_fmod.so w_fmodf.so w_gamma.so w_gamma_r.so w_gammaf.so w_gammaf_r= =2Eso w_hypot.so w_hypotf.so w_j0.so w_j0f.so w_j1.so w_j1f.so w_jn.so w_jn= f.so w_lgamma.so w_lgamma_r.so w_lgammaf.so w_lgammaf_r.so w_log.so w_log10= =2Eso w_log10f.so w_logf.so w_pow.so w_powf.so w_remainder.so w_remainderf.= so w_scalb.so w_scalbf.so w_sinh.so w_sinhf.so w_sqrt.so w_sqrtf.so w_y0.so= w_y0f.so w_y1.so w_y1f.so w_yn.so w_ynf.so e_acos.So.tmp e_acosf.So.tmp e_= acosh.So.tmp e_acoshf.So.tmp e_asin.So.tmp e_asinf.So.tmp e_atan2.So.tmp e_= atan2f.So.tmp e_atanh.So.tmp e_atanhf.So.tmp e_cosh.So.tmp e_coshf.So.tmp e= _exp.So.tmp e_expf.So.tmp e_fmod.So.tmp e_fmodf.So.tmp e_gamma.So.tmp e_gam= ma_r.So.tmp e_gammaf.So.tmp e_gammaf_r.So.tmp e_hypot.So.tmp e_hypotf.So.tm= p e_j0.So.tmp e_j0f.So.tmp e_j1.So.tmp e_j1f.So.tmp e_jn.So.tmp e_jnf.So.tm= p e_lgamma.So.tmp e_lgamma_r.So.tmp e_lgammaf.So.tmp e_lgammaf_r.So.tmp e_l= og.So.tmp e_log10.So.tmp e_log10f.So.tmp e_logf.So.tmp e_pow.So.tmp e_powf.= So.tmp e_rem_pio2.So.tmp e_rem_pio2f.So.tmp e_remainder.So.tmp e_remainderf= =2ESo.tmp e_scalb.So.tmp e_scalbf.So.tmp e_sinh.So.tmp e_sinhf.So.tmp e_sqr= t.So.tmp e_sqrtf.So.tmp get_hw_float.So.tmp k_cos.So.tmp k_cosf.So.tmp k_re= m_pio2.So.tmp k_rem_pio2f.So.tmp k_sin.So.tmp k_sinf.So.tmp k_standard.So.t= mp k_tan.So.tmp k_tanf.So.tmp s_asinh.So.tmp s_asinhf.So.tmp s_atan.So.tmp = s_atanf.So.tmp s_cbrt.So.tmp s_cbrtf.So.tmp s_ceil.So.tmp s_ceilf.So.tmp s_= copysign.So.tmp s_copysignf.So.tmp s_cos.So.tmp s_cosf.So.tmp s_erf.So.tmp = s_erff.So.tmp s_expm1.So.tmp s_expm1f.So.tmp s_fabsf.So.tmp s_finite.So.tmp= s_finitef.So.tmp s_floor.So.tmp s_floorf.So.tmp s_frexpf.So.tmp s_ilogb.So= =2Etmp s_ilogbf.So.tmp s_isnanf.So.tmp s_ldexpf.So.tmp s_lib_version.So.tmp= s_log1p.So.tmp s_log1pf.So.tmp s_logb.So.tmp s_logbf.So.tmp s_matherr.So.t= mp s_modff.So.tmp s_nextafter.So.tmp s_nextafterf.So.tmp s_rint.So.tmp s_ri= ntf.So.tmp s_scalbn.So.tmp s_scalbnf.So.tmp s_signgam.So.tmp s_significand.= So.tmp s_significandf.So.tmp s_sin.So.tmp s_sinf.So.tmp s_tan.So.tmp s_tanf= =2ESo.tmp s_tanh.So.tmp s_tanhf.So.tmp w_acos.So.tmp w_acosf.So.tmp w_acosh= =2ESo.tmp w_acoshf.So.tmp w_asin.So.tmp w_asinf.So.tmp w_atan2.So.tmp w_ata= n2f.So.tmp w_atanh.So.tmp w_atanhf.So.tmp w_cabs.So.tmp w_cabsf.So.tmp w_co= sh.So.tmp w_coshf.So.tmp w_drem.So.tmp w_dremf.So.tmp w_exp.So.tmp w_expf.S= o.tmp w_fmod.So.tmp w_fmodf.So.tmp w_gamma.So.tmp w_gamma_r.So.tmp w_gammaf= =2ESo.tmp w_gammaf_r.So.tmp w_hypot.So.tmp w_hypotf.So.tmp w_j0.So.tmp w_j0= f.So.tmp w_j1.So.tmp w_j1f.So.tmp w_jn.So.tmp w_jnf.So.tmp w_lgamma.So.tmp = w_lgamma_r.So.tmp w_lgammaf.So.tmp w_lgammaf_r.So.tmp w_log.So.tmp w_log10.= So.tmp w_log10f.So.tmp w_logf.So.tmp w_pow.So.tmp w_powf.So.tmp w_remainder= =2ESo.tmp w_remainderf.So.tmp w_scalb.So.tmp w_scalbf.So.tmp w_sinh.So.tmp = w_sinhf.So.tmp w_sqrt.So.tmp w_sqrtf.So.tmp w_y0.So.tmp w_y0f.So.tmp w_y1.S= o.tmp w_y1f.So.tmp w_yn.So.tmp w_ynf.So.tmp libm.so.2 libm.so libm.so.* l= ibm.so libm_pic.a rm -f .depend /usr/src/lib/msun/GPATH /usr/src/lib/msun/GRTAGS /usr/src/li= b/msun/GSYMS /usr/src/lib/msun/GTAGS =3D=3D=3D> lib/libmd rm -f a.out md2c.o md4c.o md5c.o md2hl.o md4hl.o md5hl.o md2c.o.tmp md4c.o= =2Etmp md5c.o.tmp md2hl.o.tmp md4hl.o.tmp md5hl.o.tmp md[245]hl.c md[245].r= ef md[245].3 mddriver md2.3.gz md4.3.gz md5.3.gz md2.3.cat.gz md4.3.cat.gz = md5.3.cat.gz rm -f libmd.a # llib-lmd.ln rm -f md2c.po md4c.po md5c.po md2hl.po md4hl.po md5hl.po md2c.po.tmp md4c.= po.tmp md5c.po.tmp md2hl.po.tmp md4hl.po.tmp md5hl.po.tmp libmd_p.a rm -f md2c.So md4c.So md5c.So md2hl.So md4hl.So md5hl.So md2c.so md4c.so md= 5c.so md2hl.so md4hl.so md5hl.so md2c.So.tmp md4c.So.tmp md5c.So.tmp md2hl.= So.tmp md4hl.So.tmp md5hl.So.tmp libmd.so.2 libmd.so libmd.so.* libmd.so = libmd_pic.a rm -f .depend /usr/src/lib/libmd/GPATH /usr/src/lib/libmd/GRTAGS /usr/src/= lib/libmd/GSYMS /usr/src/lib/libmd/GTAGS =3D=3D=3D> lib/libmytinfo rm -f a.out addstr.o binorder.o buildpath.o caplist.o capsort.o compar.o fi= llterm.o findcap.o findterm.o getother.o gettbin.o gettcap.o gettinfo.o tca= pconv.o tcapvars.o termcap.o terminfo.o tgoto.o tiget.o tmatch.o tparm.o tp= uts.o tty.o version.o addstr.o.tmp binorder.o.tmp buildpath.o.tmp caplist.= o.tmp capsort.o.tmp compar.o.tmp fillterm.o.tmp findcap.o.tmp findterm.o.tm= p getother.o.tmp gettbin.o.tmp gettcap.o.tmp gettinfo.o.tmp tcapconv.o.tmp = tcapvars.o.tmp termcap.o.tmp terminfo.o.tmp tgoto.o.tmp tiget.o.tmp tmatch.= o.tmp tparm.o.tmp tputs.o.tmp tty.o.tmp version.o.tmp binorder.c caplist.c = capsort.c mkbinorder mkcaplist mkcapsort mktermhead mkversion readcaps.o v= ersion.c cross-caplist.o cross-capsort.o cross-compar.o cross-findcap.o rm -f libmytinfo.a # llib-lmytinfo.ln rm -f addstr.po binorder.po buildpath.po caplist.po capsort.po compar.po fi= llterm.po findcap.po findterm.po getother.po gettbin.po gettcap.po gettinfo= =2Epo tcapconv.po tcapvars.po termcap.po terminfo.po tgoto.po tiget.po tmat= ch.po tparm.po tputs.po tty.po version.po addstr.po.tmp binorder.po.tmp bu= ildpath.po.tmp caplist.po.tmp capsort.po.tmp compar.po.tmp fillterm.po.tmp = findcap.po.tmp findterm.po.tmp getother.po.tmp gettbin.po.tmp gettcap.po.tm= p gettinfo.po.tmp tcapconv.po.tmp tcapvars.po.tmp termcap.po.tmp terminfo.p= o.tmp tgoto.po.tmp tiget.po.tmp tmatch.po.tmp tparm.po.tmp tputs.po.tmp tty= =2Epo.tmp version.po.tmp libmytinfo_p.a rm -f addstr.So binorder.So buildpath.So caplist.So capsort.So compar.So fi= llterm.So findcap.So findterm.So getother.So gettbin.So gettcap.So gettinfo= =2ESo tcapconv.So tcapvars.So termcap.So terminfo.So tgoto.So tiget.So tmat= ch.So tparm.So tputs.So tty.So version.So addstr.so binorder.so buildpath.s= o caplist.so capsort.so compar.so fillterm.so findcap.so findterm.so getoth= er.so gettbin.so gettcap.so gettinfo.so tcapconv.so tcapvars.so termcap.so = terminfo.so tgoto.so tiget.so tmatch.so tparm.so tputs.so tty.so version.so= addstr.So.tmp binorder.So.tmp buildpath.So.tmp caplist.So.tmp capsort.So.t= mp compar.So.tmp fillterm.So.tmp findcap.So.tmp findterm.So.tmp getother.So= =2Etmp gettbin.So.tmp gettcap.So.tmp gettinfo.So.tmp tcapconv.So.tmp tcapva= rs.So.tmp termcap.So.tmp terminfo.So.tmp tgoto.So.tmp tiget.So.tmp tmatch.S= o.tmp tparm.So.tmp tputs.So.tmp tty.So.tmp version.So.tmp libmytinfo.so.2 = libmytinfo.so libmytinfo.so.* libmytinfo.so libmytinfo_pic.a rm -f .depend /usr/src/lib/libmytinfo/GPATH /usr/src/lib/libmytinfo/GRTAGS = /usr/src/lib/libmytinfo/GSYMS /usr/src/lib/libmytinfo/GTAGS =3D=3D=3D> lib/libncurses rm -f a.out lib_kernel.o lib_pad.o lib_bkgd.o lib_unctrl.o lib_raw.o lib_vi= dattr.o lib_trace.o lib_beep.o lib_doupdate.o lib_refresh.o lib_initscr.o l= ib_newwin.o lib_addch.o lib_addstr.o lib_scroll.o lib_clreol.o lib_touch.o = lib_mvcur.o lib_keyname.o lib_delwin.o lib_endwin.o lib_clrbot.o lib_move.o= lib_printw.o lib_scanw.o lib_erase.o lib_getch.o lib_options.o lib_acs.o l= ib_slk.o lib_box.o lib_clear.o lib_delch.o lib_insch.o lib_instr.o lib_gets= tr.o lib_mvwin.o lib_longname.o lib_tstp.o lib_newterm.o lib_set_term.o lib= _overlay.o lib_scrreg.o lib_color.o lib_insstr.o lib_insdel.o lib_twait.o l= ib_window.o copyright.o lib_kernel.o.tmp lib_pad.o.tmp lib_bkgd.o.tmp lib_= unctrl.o.tmp lib_raw.o.tmp lib_vidattr.o.tmp lib_trace.o.tmp lib_beep.o.tmp= lib_doupdate.o.tmp lib_refresh.o.tmp lib_initscr.o.tmp lib_newwin.o.tmp li= b_addch.o.tmp lib_addstr.o.tmp lib_scroll.o.tmp lib_clreol.o.tmp lib_touch.= o.tmp lib_mvcur.o.tmp lib_keyname.o.tmp lib_delwin.o.tmp lib_endwin.o.tmp l= ib_clrbot.o.tmp lib_move.o.tmp lib_printw.o.tmp lib_scanw.o.tmp lib_erase.o= =2Etmp lib_getch.o.tmp lib_options.o.tmp lib_acs.o.tmp lib_slk.o.tmp lib_bo= x.o.tmp lib_clear.o.tmp lib_delch.o.tmp lib_insch.o.tmp lib_instr.o.tmp lib= _getstr.o.tmp lib_mvwin.o.tmp lib_longname.o.tmp lib_tstp.o.tmp lib_newterm= =2Eo.tmp lib_set_term.o.tmp lib_overlay.o.tmp lib_scrreg.o.tmp lib_color.o.= tmp lib_insstr.o.tmp lib_insdel.o.tmp lib_twait.o.tmp lib_window.o.tmp copy= right.o.tmp lib_keyname.c keys.tries.h curs_addch.3.gz curs_addchst.3.gz cu= rs_addstr.3.gz curs_attr.3.gz curs_beep.3.gz curs_bkgd.3.gz curs_border.3.g= z curs_clear.3.gz curs_color.3.gz curs_delch.3.gz curs_delln.3.gz curs_getc= h.3.gz curs_getstr.3.gz curs_getyx.3.gz curs_inch.3.gz curs_inchstr.3.gz cu= rs_initscr.3.gz curs_inopts.3.gz curs_insch.3.gz curs_insstr.3.gz curs_inst= r.3.gz curs_kernel.3.gz curs_move.3.gz curs_outopts.3.gz curs_overlay.3.gz = curs_pad.3.gz curs_printw.3.gz curs_refresh.3.gz curs_scanw.3.gz curs_scr_d= mp.3.gz curs_scroll.3.gz curs_slk.3.gz curs_termatt.3.gz curs_termin.3.gz c= urs_touch.3.gz curs_util.3.gz curs_window.3.gz ncurses.3.gz curs_addch.3.ca= t.gz curs_addchst.3.cat.gz curs_addstr.3.cat.gz curs_attr.3.cat.gz curs_bee= p.3.cat.gz curs_bkgd.3.cat.gz curs_border.3.cat.gz curs_clear.3.cat.gz curs= _color.3.cat.gz curs_delch.3.cat.gz curs_delln.3.cat.gz curs_getch.3.cat.gz= curs_getstr.3.cat.gz curs_getyx.3.cat.gz curs_inch.3.cat.gz curs_inchstr.3= =2Ecat.gz curs_initscr.3.cat.gz curs_inopts.3.cat.gz curs_insch.3.cat.gz cu= rs_insstr.3.cat.gz curs_instr.3.cat.gz curs_kernel.3.cat.gz curs_move.3.cat= =2Egz curs_outopts.3.cat.gz curs_overlay.3.cat.gz curs_pad.3.cat.gz curs_pr= intw.3.cat.gz curs_refresh.3.cat.gz curs_scanw.3.cat.gz curs_scr_dmp.3.cat.= gz curs_scroll.3.cat.gz curs_slk.3.cat.gz curs_termatt.3.cat.gz curs_termin= =2E3.cat.gz curs_touch.3.cat.gz curs_util.3.cat.gz curs_window.3.cat.gz ncu= rses.3.cat.gz term.5.gz term.5.cat.gz rm -f libncurses.a # llib-lncurses.ln rm -f lib_kernel.po lib_pad.po lib_bkgd.po lib_unctrl.po lib_raw.po lib_vid= attr.po lib_trace.po lib_beep.po lib_doupdate.po lib_refresh.po lib_initscr= =2Epo lib_newwin.po lib_addch.po lib_addstr.po lib_scroll.po lib_clreol.po = lib_touch.po lib_mvcur.po lib_keyname.po lib_delwin.po lib_endwin.po lib_cl= rbot.po lib_move.po lib_printw.po lib_scanw.po lib_erase.po lib_getch.po li= b_options.po lib_acs.po lib_slk.po lib_box.po lib_clear.po lib_delch.po lib= _insch.po lib_instr.po lib_getstr.po lib_mvwin.po lib_longname.po lib_tstp.= po lib_newterm.po lib_set_term.po lib_overlay.po lib_scrreg.po lib_color.po= lib_insstr.po lib_insdel.po lib_twait.po lib_window.po copyright.po lib_k= ernel.po.tmp lib_pad.po.tmp lib_bkgd.po.tmp lib_unctrl.po.tmp lib_raw.po.tm= p lib_vidattr.po.tmp lib_trace.po.tmp lib_beep.po.tmp lib_doupdate.po.tmp l= ib_refresh.po.tmp lib_initscr.po.tmp lib_newwin.po.tmp lib_addch.po.tmp lib= _addstr.po.tmp lib_scroll.po.tmp lib_clreol.po.tmp lib_touch.po.tmp lib_mvc= ur.po.tmp lib_keyname.po.tmp lib_delwin.po.tmp lib_endwin.po.tmp lib_clrbot= =2Epo.tmp lib_move.po.tmp lib_printw.po.tmp lib_scanw.po.tmp lib_erase.po.t= mp lib_getch.po.tmp lib_options.po.tmp lib_acs.po.tmp lib_slk.po.tmp lib_bo= x.po.tmp lib_clear.po.tmp lib_delch.po.tmp lib_insch.po.tmp lib_instr.po.tm= p lib_getstr.po.tmp lib_mvwin.po.tmp lib_longname.po.tmp lib_tstp.po.tmp li= b_newterm.po.tmp lib_set_term.po.tmp lib_overlay.po.tmp lib_scrreg.po.tmp l= ib_color.po.tmp lib_insstr.po.tmp lib_insdel.po.tmp lib_twait.po.tmp lib_wi= ndow.po.tmp copyright.po.tmp libncurses_p.a rm -f lib_kernel.So lib_pad.So lib_bkgd.So lib_unctrl.So lib_raw.So lib_vid= attr.So lib_trace.So lib_beep.So lib_doupdate.So lib_refresh.So lib_initscr= =2ESo lib_newwin.So lib_addch.So lib_addstr.So lib_scroll.So lib_clreol.So = lib_touch.So lib_mvcur.So lib_keyname.So lib_delwin.So lib_endwin.So lib_cl= rbot.So lib_move.So lib_printw.So lib_scanw.So lib_erase.So lib_getch.So li= b_options.So lib_acs.So lib_slk.So lib_box.So lib_clear.So lib_delch.So lib= _insch.So lib_instr.So lib_getstr.So lib_mvwin.So lib_longname.So lib_tstp.= So lib_newterm.So lib_set_term.So lib_overlay.So lib_scrreg.So lib_color.So= lib_insstr.So lib_insdel.So lib_twait.So lib_window.So copyright.So lib_ke= rnel.so lib_pad.so lib_bkgd.so lib_unctrl.so lib_raw.so lib_vidattr.so lib_= trace.so lib_beep.so lib_doupdate.so lib_refresh.so lib_initscr.so lib_neww= in.so lib_addch.so lib_addstr.so lib_scroll.so lib_clreol.so lib_touch.so l= ib_mvcur.so lib_keyname.so lib_delwin.so lib_endwin.so lib_clrbot.so lib_mo= ve.so lib_printw.so lib_scanw.so lib_erase.so lib_getch.so lib_options.so l= ib_acs.so lib_slk.so lib_box.so lib_clear.so lib_delch.so lib_insch.so lib_= instr.so lib_getstr.so lib_mvwin.so lib_longname.so lib_tstp.so lib_newterm= =2Eso lib_set_term.so lib_overlay.so lib_scrreg.so lib_color.so lib_insstr.= so lib_insdel.so lib_twait.so lib_window.so copyright.so lib_kernel.So.tmp = lib_pad.So.tmp lib_bkgd.So.tmp lib_unctrl.So.tmp lib_raw.So.tmp lib_vidattr= =2ESo.tmp lib_trace.So.tmp lib_beep.So.tmp lib_doupdate.So.tmp lib_refresh.= So.tmp lib_initscr.So.tmp lib_newwin.So.tmp lib_addch.So.tmp lib_addstr.So.= tmp lib_scroll.So.tmp lib_clreol.So.tmp lib_touch.So.tmp lib_mvcur.So.tmp l= ib_keyname.So.tmp lib_delwin.So.tmp lib_endwin.So.tmp lib_clrbot.So.tmp lib= _move.So.tmp lib_printw.So.tmp lib_scanw.So.tmp lib_erase.So.tmp lib_getch.= So.tmp lib_options.So.tmp lib_acs.So.tmp lib_slk.So.tmp lib_box.So.tmp lib_= clear.So.tmp lib_delch.So.tmp lib_insch.So.tmp lib_instr.So.tmp lib_getstr.= So.tmp lib_mvwin.So.tmp lib_longname.So.tmp lib_tstp.So.tmp lib_newterm.So.= tmp lib_set_term.So.tmp lib_overlay.So.tmp lib_scrreg.So.tmp lib_color.So.t= mp lib_insstr.So.tmp lib_insdel.So.tmp lib_twait.So.tmp lib_window.So.tmp c= opyright.So.tmp libncurses.so.3 libncurses.so libncurses.so.* libncurses.= so libncurses_pic.a rm -f .depend /usr/src/lib/libncurses/GPATH /usr/src/lib/libncurses/GRTAGS = /usr/src/lib/libncurses/GSYMS /usr/src/lib/libncurses/GTAGS =3D=3D=3D> lib/libradius rm -f a.out radlib.o radlib.o.tmp libradius.3.gz libradius.3.cat.gz radius= =2Econf.5.gz radius.conf.5.cat.gz rm -f libradius.a # llib-lradius.ln rm -f radlib.po radlib.po.tmp libradius_p.a rm -f radlib.So radlib.so radlib.So.tmp libradius.so.1 libradius.so libra= dius.so.* libradius.so libradius_pic.a rm -f .depend /usr/src/lib/libradius/GPATH /usr/src/lib/libradius/GRTAGS /= usr/src/lib/libradius/GSYMS /usr/src/lib/libradius/GTAGS =3D=3D=3D> lib/libskey rm -f a.out skeyaccess.o put.o skey_crypt.o skey_getpass.o skeylogin.o skey= subr.o skeyaccess.o.tmp put.o.tmp skey_crypt.o.tmp skey_getpass.o.tmp skey= login.o.tmp skeysubr.o.tmp skey.1.gz skey.1.cat.gz skey.3.gz skey.3.cat.gz = skey.access.5.gz skey.access.5.cat.gz rm -f libskey.a # llib-lskey.ln rm -f skeyaccess.po put.po skey_crypt.po skey_getpass.po skeylogin.po skeys= ubr.po skeyaccess.po.tmp put.po.tmp skey_crypt.po.tmp skey_getpass.po.tmp = skeylogin.po.tmp skeysubr.po.tmp libskey_p.a rm -f skeyaccess.So put.So skey_crypt.So skey_getpass.So skeylogin.So skeys= ubr.So skeyaccess.so put.so skey_crypt.so skey_getpass.so skeylogin.so skey= subr.so skeyaccess.So.tmp put.So.tmp skey_crypt.So.tmp skey_getpass.So.tmp = skeylogin.So.tmp skeysubr.So.tmp libskey.so.2 libskey.so libskey.so.* lib= skey.so libskey_pic.a rm -f .depend /usr/src/lib/libskey/GPATH /usr/src/lib/libskey/GRTAGS /usr/= src/lib/libskey/GSYMS /usr/src/lib/libskey/GTAGS =3D=3D=3D> lib/libtacplus rm -f a.out taclib.o taclib.o.tmp libtacplus.3.gz libtacplus.3.cat.gz tacp= lus.conf.5.gz tacplus.conf.5.cat.gz rm -f libtacplus.a # llib-ltacplus.ln rm -f taclib.po taclib.po.tmp libtacplus_p.a rm -f taclib.So taclib.so taclib.So.tmp libtacplus.so.1 libtacplus.so lib= tacplus.so.* libtacplus.so libtacplus_pic.a rm -f .depend /usr/src/lib/libtacplus/GPATH /usr/src/lib/libtacplus/GRTAGS = /usr/src/lib/libtacplus/GSYMS /usr/src/lib/libtacplus/GTAGS =3D=3D=3D> lib/libtermcap rm -f a.out termcap.o tgoto.o tputs.o tparm.o tospeed.o termcap.o.tmp tgot= o.o.tmp tputs.o.tmp tparm.o.tmp tospeed.o.tmp termcap.3.gz termcap.3.cat.gz rm -f libtermcap.a # llib-ltermcap.ln rm -f termcap.po tgoto.po tputs.po tparm.po tospeed.po termcap.po.tmp tgot= o.po.tmp tputs.po.tmp tparm.po.tmp tospeed.po.tmp libtermcap_p.a rm -f termcap.So tgoto.So tputs.So tparm.So tospeed.So termcap.so tgoto.so = tputs.so tparm.so tospeed.so termcap.So.tmp tgoto.So.tmp tputs.So.tmp tparm= =2ESo.tmp tospeed.So.tmp libtermcap.so.2 libtermcap.so libtermcap.so.* li= btermcap.so libtermcap_pic.a rm -f .depend /usr/src/lib/libtermcap/GPATH /usr/src/lib/libtermcap/GRTAGS = /usr/src/lib/libtermcap/GSYMS /usr/src/lib/libtermcap/GTAGS =3D=3D=3D> lib/libalias rm -f a.out alias.o alias_cuseeme.o alias_db.o alias_ftp.o alias_irc.o alia= s_nbt.o alias_proxy.o alias_util.o alias.o.tmp alias_cuseeme.o.tmp alias_d= b.o.tmp alias_ftp.o.tmp alias_irc.o.tmp alias_nbt.o.tmp alias_proxy.o.tmp a= lias_util.o.tmp libalias.3.gz libalias.3.cat.gz rm -f libalias.a # llib-lalias.ln rm -f alias.po alias_cuseeme.po alias_db.po alias_ftp.po alias_irc.po alias= _nbt.po alias_proxy.po alias_util.po alias.po.tmp alias_cuseeme.po.tmp ali= as_db.po.tmp alias_ftp.po.tmp alias_irc.po.tmp alias_nbt.po.tmp alias_proxy= =2Epo.tmp alias_util.po.tmp libalias_p.a rm -f alias.So alias_cuseeme.So alias_db.So alias_ftp.So alias_irc.So alias= _nbt.So alias_proxy.So alias_util.So alias.so alias_cuseeme.so alias_db.so = alias_ftp.so alias_irc.so alias_nbt.so alias_proxy.so alias_util.so alias.S= o.tmp alias_cuseeme.So.tmp alias_db.So.tmp alias_ftp.So.tmp alias_irc.So.tm= p alias_nbt.So.tmp alias_proxy.So.tmp alias_util.So.tmp libalias.so.3 liba= lias.so libalias.so.* libalias.so libalias_pic.a rm -f .depend /usr/src/lib/libalias/GPATH /usr/src/lib/libalias/GRTAGS /us= r/src/lib/libalias/GSYMS /usr/src/lib/libalias/GTAGS =3D=3D=3D> lib/libatm rm -f a.out atm_addr.o cache_key.o ioctl_subr.o ip_addr.o ip_checksum.o tim= er.o atm_addr.o.tmp cache_key.o.tmp ioctl_subr.o.tmp ip_addr.o.tmp ip_chec= ksum.o.tmp timer.o.tmp=20 rm -f libatm.a # llib-latm.ln rm -f atm_addr.po cache_key.po ioctl_subr.po ip_addr.po ip_checksum.po time= r.po atm_addr.po.tmp cache_key.po.tmp ioctl_subr.po.tmp ip_addr.po.tmp ip_= checksum.po.tmp timer.po.tmp libatm_p.a rm -f atm_addr.So cache_key.So ioctl_subr.So ip_addr.So ip_checksum.So time= r.So atm_addr.so cache_key.so ioctl_subr.so ip_addr.so ip_checksum.so timer= =2Eso atm_addr.So.tmp cache_key.So.tmp ioctl_subr.So.tmp ip_addr.So.tmp ip_= checksum.So.tmp timer.So.tmp libatm.so.2 libatm.so libatm.so.* libatm.so = libatm_pic.a rm -f .depend /usr/src/lib/libatm/GPATH /usr/src/lib/libatm/GRTAGS /usr/sr= c/lib/libatm/GSYMS /usr/src/lib/libatm/GTAGS =3D=3D=3D> lib/libbind rm -f a.out tree.o bitncmp.o assertions.o memcluster.o logging.o heap.o eve= ntlib.o ev_connects.o ev_files.o ev_timers.o ev_streams.o ev_waits.o tree.= o.tmp bitncmp.o.tmp assertions.o.tmp memcluster.o.tmp logging.o.tmp heap.o.= tmp eventlib.o.tmp ev_connects.o.tmp ev_files.o.tmp ev_timers.o.tmp ev_stre= ams.o.tmp ev_waits.o.tmp=20 rm -f libbind.a # llib-lbind.ln rm -f tree.po bitncmp.po assertions.po memcluster.po logging.po heap.po eve= ntlib.po ev_connects.po ev_files.po ev_timers.po ev_streams.po ev_waits.po = tree.po.tmp bitncmp.po.tmp assertions.po.tmp memcluster.po.tmp logging.po.= tmp heap.po.tmp eventlib.po.tmp ev_connects.po.tmp ev_files.po.tmp ev_timer= s.po.tmp ev_streams.po.tmp ev_waits.po.tmp libbind_p.a rm -f tree.So bitncmp.So assertions.So memcluster.So logging.So heap.So eve= ntlib.So ev_connects.So ev_files.So ev_timers.So ev_streams.So ev_waits.So = tree.so bitncmp.so assertions.so memcluster.so logging.so heap.so eventlib.= so ev_connects.so ev_files.so ev_timers.so ev_streams.so ev_waits.so tree.S= o.tmp bitncmp.So.tmp assertions.So.tmp memcluster.So.tmp logging.So.tmp hea= p.So.tmp eventlib.So.tmp ev_connects.So.tmp ev_files.So.tmp ev_timers.So.tm= p ev_streams.So.tmp ev_waits.So.tmp libbind.so.* libbind.so libbind_pic= =2Ea rm -f .depend /usr/src/lib/libbind/GPATH /usr/src/lib/libbind/GRTAGS /usr/= src/lib/libbind/GSYMS /usr/src/lib/libbind/GTAGS =3D=3D=3D> lib/libc "/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/Makefile.inc", line 32: Could not find /usr/= src/lib/libc/../libc/unknown/gen/Makefile.inc "/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/net/Makefile.inc", line 22: Could not find /usr/= src/lib/libc/../libc/unknown/net/Makefile.inc "/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/stdlib/Makefile.inc", line 23: Could not find /u= sr/src/lib/libc/../libc/unknown/stdlib/Makefile.inc "/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/string/Makefile.inc", line 16: Could not find /u= sr/src/lib/libc/../libc/unknown/string/Makefile.inc "/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/sys/Makefile.inc", line 16: Could not find /usr/= src/lib/libc/../libc/unknown/sys/Makefile.inc make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. sh-2.01# exit exit Script done on Thu Aug 26 10:24:31 1999 ______________________________ Mr. Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez Net Manager & Sys Admin CEISIC. Ministry of Culture ______________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 7:43:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bow.portal.net.au (galley.portal.net.au [202.12.71.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E0F15C09 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:43:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jeff.Baker@ACADHOTLINE.net.au) Received: from pc5 ([202.0.75.115]) by bow.portal.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA20099; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:12:35 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:12:35 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199908261442.AAA20099@bow.portal.net.au> X-Sender: jbaker@portal.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Mark Murray From: Jeff Baker Subject: Newbee Cc: lexander Langer , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Guys, Pardon me for jumping into your emails.....The basic concept of your trail was spot on. Where I started: - I have very little knowledge of unix. - I wanted to set up a net server. - I was concerned about using NT (which I use on my desktop) - I had some old 486 pc's which where gathering dust. - Just how hard could it be to setup?? What I did: - Idownloaded several directories from freebsb 2 days ago - I downloaded lots of html & other docs inc the handbook. - I started reading.... - I screwed up the install / config a couple of times (ie didn't read fast enough and / or assumed defaults would work) Where I'm at - stuffed if I know.. - I can boot either DOS or FreeBSD on the machine. - I have set up a couple of user names - I went thru a couple of docs which helped me decide on some IP settings etc. - still not sure how to check if my ethernet card is being recognised...did I get the IRQ correct etc etc? - I'm now looking for more docs on how to set up the web server. My Questions: - How do I know what to do next - Do I really have to read 100's pages of jibberish to try & figure out what to do? - is there a short version of a setup guide (with refs to more info if required) - do I really have to understand all these terms / acronyms etc to set up a web server..... - While MS bloatware has bugs, requires heaps of resources, prob not secure etc etc.....at least it is easy to install and get setup, even if a user doesn't know what they are doing (and there are lots of 'how to' docs avail.if required.) FreeBSD can be the next OS from what I have seen, if only us meere mortals could install & set it up..... Did I forget to download a 'magic' doc? Please tell me I did I'll get back to my downloading / reading and keep telling myself its not that hard, its not that hard, its not that hard, its not that hard..... Commentrs appreciated, advise very welcomed Regards Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Australian CAD HOTLINE HELP when YOU need it. 1902 983 170 for ACAD R12/R13/R14, Mech DeskTop 1902 963 600 for ACAD LT1/2/95/97, ASketch & Others http://www.ACADHOTLINE.net.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 8: 6:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xl2.cscd.lviv.ua (xl2.cscd.lviv.ua [195.5.56.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0550715CAE for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:05:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vadim@gc.lviv.ua) Received: from extra.gc.lviv.ua (extra.gc.lviv.ua [195.5.56.19]) by xl2.cscd.lviv.ua (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA29439; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:16:00 +0300 (EEST) Received: from gate.gc.lviv.ua (gate.gc.lviv.ua [192.168.168.18]) by extra.gc.lviv.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04955; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:03:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from gc.lviv.ua (intra.lviv.gc.com.ua [192.168.1.93]) by gate.gc.lviv.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA57558; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:03:13 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <37C555E9.CA65A34C@gc.lviv.ua> Disposition-Notification-To: Vadim Chekan Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:57:45 +0300 From: Vadim Chekan Organization: Galitsky Kontrakty X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote: > > Greetings to everyone: > > Yesterday I just downloaded via CVSup the full source tree, for the stable > branch to my running system. I have previously read the "Making the world" > your own tutorial posted in the FreeBSD handbook, very carefully to follow > the instructions. But I got dissapointed when the time to type make > buildworld came, it started but not to long ago it suddenly stopped > complaining about a missing file or missing files. > > I include here the output sent to a file via the script command, where it > shows at the end what have failed. > > I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.6, 32 MB RAM, P MMX 233 MHz. I want to upgrade to > 3.x stable. > > Could someone give me a hint on this matter please ? > > script command output follows: > > Script started on Thu Aug 26 10:23:28 1999 > sh-2.01# make build          cd /usr/src > sh-2.01# make buildworld You should read the head of /usr/src/Makefile. # The aout->elf transition build is performed by doing a `make upgrade' (or # `make aout-to-elf') or in two steps by a `make aout-to-elf-build' followed # by a `make aout-to-elf-install', depending on user preference. Vadim Chekan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 8:12:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E379E14E95 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:12:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neil.long@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk) Received: from ratbert.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.14.71]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 11K1BQ-00021Q-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:11:20 +0100 Received: from neil by ratbert.oucs.ox.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.03 #4) id 11K1BQ-0001Ht-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:11:20 +0100 From: "Neil Long" Message-Id: <990826161120.ZM4951@ratbert.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:11:19 +0100 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Question of longevity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello (No point in sending this to -current!). I have a FreeBSD+drawbridge host which just runs and runs and has no problems. It has been up now for 444 days (2.2.6-RELEASE DRAWBRIDGE-3.0b2) and I am planning to upgrade it RSN! Just wondered if FreeBSD ever suffered the 'uptime' problems that the L-Word did/does (498 day uptime can cause panics in some Linux kernels). I am not interested in any *BSD vs. Linux flame-fests just want to know if I need to bring drawbridge up to date sooner rather than later. [not that a long uptime sticker on the box wouldn't be nice to wind-up the other lot] Cheers Neil -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr Neil J Long, Computing Services, University of Oxford 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK Tel:+44 1865 273232 Fax:+44 1865 273275 EMail: Neil.Long@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk PGP: EE AE D0 FF B3 D7 05 18 04 83 E7 B0 D0 4D 0B CA OxCERT: oxcert@ox.ac.uk PGP: 8BE5B0662D 716D1DAE84 1D933D53DE67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 8:26: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C9B14DE2 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:25:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA09603; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990826112159.01389500@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:21:59 -0400 To: Jeff Baker From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Newbee Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199908261442.AAA20099@bow.portal.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:12 AM 8/27/99 +0930, Jeff Baker wrote: > >What I did: > - Idownloaded several directories from freebsb 2 days ago If you wanted to do a net install, you should only need to download 2 floppy disks. > - I downloaded lots of html & other docs inc the handbook. > - I started reading.... > - I screwed up the install / config a couple of times > (ie didn't read fast enough and / or assumed defaults would >work) > >Where I'm at > - stuffed if I know.. > - I can boot either DOS or FreeBSD on the machine. > - I have set up a couple of user names > - I went thru a couple of docs which helped me decide on some IP >settings etc. > - still not sure how to check if my ethernet card is being >recognised...did I get the IRQ correct etc etc? What sort of ethernet card is it ? If its PCI, you dont need to worry about that. > - I'm now looking for more docs on how to set up the web server. See www.apache.org > > My Questions: > - How do I know what to do next > - Do I really have to read 100's pages of jibberish to try & figure >out what to do? Yes. > - is there a short version of a setup guide (with refs to more info >if required) The handbook at www.freebsd.org is the way to go, and the mailling lists contain answers to probably every questions ever asked. Go to www.dejanews.com, click on power search, for the forms, enter in mailing.freebsd.*,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.* and enter in any keywords that describe your topic, and read, read, read. > - do I really have to understand all these terms / acronyms etc to >set up a web server..... A lot of it, yes. > - While MS bloatware has bugs, requires heaps of resources, prob not >secure etc etc.....at least it is > easy to install and get setup, even if a user doesn't know what >they are doing (and there are lots of *SEEMINGLY* easy. You can easily point and click your way to oblivion in NT. The pretty interface etc, seemingly isolates you from underlying concepts, but in the end, you need to understand things conceptual with NT, just as much as you need to with UNIX. See, http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html And ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/3.2-RELEASE/floppies/README.TXT on how to do a net Install. When you run into problems, post to the questions mailing list, and make sure you give enough detail for people to quickly help you out. Vague things like, "Help, I am stuck, its not working" generally get ignored. But if you post things like, "I am having problems with my ethernet card. It is a ne2000, at 0x340, IRQ 10. I defined it in my kernel as follows. Here is my dmesg output on bootup. I tried ifconfig ed0 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0, but I get the following error" and so on. And, be sure to look through the mailing list archives. Chances are, someone had the same problem as you did at one time, and the answer will be there. www.dejanews.com is your oracle. And, be sure to look through the mailing list archives. Chances are, someone had the same problem as you did at one time, and the answer will be there. www.dejanews.com is your oracle. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 8:33:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uncle.cult.cu (uncle.cult.cu [169.158.120.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30D514DE2 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:30:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elie@uncle.cult.cu) Received: from localhost (2078 bytes) by uncle.cult.cu via sendmail with P:stdio/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:29:38 -0400 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #4 built 1998-Sep-15) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:29:38 -0400 (CDT) From: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez To: Vadim Chekan Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <37C555E9.CA65A34C@gc.lviv.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ______________________________ Mr. Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez Net Manager & Sys Admin CEISIC. Ministry of Culture ______________________________ On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Vadim Chekan wrote: > > > Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote: > > > > Greetings to everyone: > > > > Yesterday I just downloaded via CVSup the full source tree, for the stable > > branch to my running system. I have previously read the "Making the world" > > your own tutorial posted in the FreeBSD handbook, very carefully to follow > > the instructions. But I got dissapointed when the time to type make > > buildworld came, it started but not to long ago it suddenly stopped > > complaining about a missing file or missing files. > > > > I include here the output sent to a file via the script command, where it > > shows at the end what have failed. > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.6, 32 MB RAM, P MMX 233 MHz. I want to upgrade to > > 3.x stable. > > > > Could someone give me a hint on this matter please ? > > > > script command output follows: > > > > Script started on Thu Aug 26 10:23:28 1999 > > sh-2.01# make build          cd /usr/src > > sh-2.01# make buildworld > > You should read the head of /usr/src/Makefile. > > # The aout->elf transition build is performed by doing a `make upgrade' > (or > # `make aout-to-elf') or in two steps by a `make aout-to-elf-build' > followed > # by a `make aout-to-elf-install', depending on user preference. > > Vadim Chekan. > Well, I've just received you e-mail, then I checked on /usr/src/Makefile. I remove the /src/obj dir and fired make aout-to-elf-build and it stopped at the same place in the compilation process... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 8:41:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bow.portal.net.au (galley.portal.net.au [202.12.71.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2237C15001 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:41:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jeff.Baker@ACADHOTLINE.net.au) Received: from pc5 ([202.0.75.115]) by bow.portal.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA20517; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 01:11:06 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 01:11:06 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199908261541.BAA20517@bow.portal.net.au> X-Sender: jbaker@portal.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Mike Tancsa From: Jeff Baker Subject: Re: Newbee Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Mike Thanks for quick reply. >If you wanted to do a net install, you should only need to download 2 floppy disks. That assumes that the box being setup is connected to the net somehow right? It isn't (yet!) >What sort of ethernet card is it ? If its PCI, you dont need to worry about that. Sorry its an older 486 PC, - PCI wasn't invented! :-) .....I have a dozen Cards around here, I was trying an "autoconfig card (SMC), then I tried an Intel 8/16 but that didn't seem to go either, so right now I have a Winbond card in there. I picked that as it has jumpers I can set visually......where is WinMSD in FreeBSD? .... how do I find out if it is seeing the card,? >See www.apache.org ummmm I think I have a dozen or so steps before apache Thanks again for your comments. I have the docs you described. Just getting sick of all the reading!! :-) Doing tech support for a living, I understand you "not working" comments, in this case I was really just looking for a short todo list with some references....maybe it just isn't out there.? Regards Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 8:52: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bow.portal.net.au (galley.portal.net.au [202.12.71.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA5414D07 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jeff.Baker@ACADHOTLINE.net.au) Received: from pc5 ([202.0.75.115]) by bow.portal.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA20591; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 01:21:30 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 01:21:30 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199908261551.BAA20591@bow.portal.net.au> X-Sender: jbaker@portal.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Mike Tancsa From: Jeff Baker Subject: Re: Newbee Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Mike, FWIW I just found another site which seems to have a nice step by step for the net config.....this should help me some (after more reading :-)) http://www.freebsd.peon.net Regards Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 8:56:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tranq1.tranquility.net (tranq1.tranquility.net [206.156.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB84814D09 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (Mizzou-AS10-35.missouri.edu [128.206.209.227]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA28914; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:55:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37C5638C.681C665D@math.missouri.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:55:56 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Baker Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbee References: <199908261442.AAA20099@bow.portal.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I suspect that there is not the magic document that you speak of. Any unix like OS will have a steep initial learning curve, and there is a lot of learning to do. What I would say is that it is worth the trip, just hang in there. Also, Microsoft have had many years in this business, and have a huge budget, so they can spend a lot on their documentation. Good technical writing is very hard, especially so for the actual programmers who have blind spots in that it seems so easy for them, and cannot see where others have difficulties. FreeBSD is a volunteer project, and does not command the resources of Microsoft. As well as the online docs, I would also buy the "Complete FreeBSD." While there does seem to a a daunting amount of these docs, you do not need to read them cover to cover. Also, you might want to get the FreeBSD CDROM set - it is easier to install from that, I think, than from the internet. It may take you a month or so to figure out what you need. The time spent will be well worth it. Then maybe you could write a how-to document that you wished you had, and help future generations of FreeBSD users. Another possibilty - how about Linux. I hear that both Caldera 2.2 and the RedHat distributions are easy to install. Jeff Baker wrote: > > Hi Guys, > Pardon me for jumping into your emails.....The basic concept of your > trail was spot on. > > Where I started: > - I have very little knowledge of unix. > - I wanted to set up a net server. > - I was concerned about using NT (which I use on my desktop) > - I had some old 486 pc's which where gathering dust. > - Just how hard could it be to setup?? > > What I did: > - Idownloaded several directories from freebsb 2 days ago > - I downloaded lots of html & other docs inc the handbook. > - I started reading.... > - I screwed up the install / config a couple of times > (ie didn't read fast enough and / or assumed defaults would > work) > > Where I'm at > - stuffed if I know.. > - I can boot either DOS or FreeBSD on the machine. > - I have set up a couple of user names > - I went thru a couple of docs which helped me decide on some IP > settings etc. > - still not sure how to check if my ethernet card is being > recognised...did I get the IRQ correct etc etc? > - I'm now looking for more docs on how to set up the web server. > > My Questions: > - How do I know what to do next > - Do I really have to read 100's pages of jibberish to try & figure > out what to do? > - is there a short version of a setup guide (with refs to more info > if required) > - do I really have to understand all these terms / acronyms etc to > set up a web server..... > - While MS bloatware has bugs, requires heaps of resources, prob not > secure etc etc.....at least it is > easy to install and get setup, even if a user doesn't know what > they are doing (and there are lots of > 'how to' docs avail.if required.) FreeBSD can be the next OS from > what I have seen, if only us meere mortals could install & set it > up..... > > Did I forget to download a 'magic' doc? Please tell me I did > > I'll get back to my downloading / reading and keep telling myself > its not that hard, its not that hard, its not that hard, its not that hard..... > > Commentrs appreciated, advise very welcomed > Regards > Jeff > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Australian CAD HOTLINE > HELP when YOU need it. > > 1902 983 170 for ACAD R12/R13/R14, Mech DeskTop > 1902 963 600 for ACAD LT1/2/95/97, ASketch & Others > > http://www.ACADHOTLINE.net.au > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 USA Phone (573) 882 4540 Fax (573) 882 1869 http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 9: 5:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42505150C1 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:05:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA21762; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990826120100.0120c770@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:01:00 -0400 To: Jeff Baker From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Newbee Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199908261541.BAA20517@bow.portal.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:11 AM 8/27/99 +0930, Jeff Baker wrote: >Hi Mike >Thanks for quick reply. > >>If you wanted to do a net install, you should only need to download 2 >floppy disks. > >That assumes that the box being setup is connected to the net somehow right? >It isn't (yet!) No, it does not. It assumes you have net access on another machine where you can create the two floppies. Then take the two floppies, boot from them, and configure the new machine to download all the necessary software. >>What sort of ethernet card is it ? If its PCI, you dont need to worry about >that. > >Sorry its an older 486 PC, - PCI wasn't invented! :-) .....I have a dozen >Cards around here, I was trying an "autoconfig card (SMC), then I tried an >Intel 8/16 but that didn't seem to go either, so right now I have a Winbond >card in there. I picked that as it has jumpers I can set visually......where >is WinMSD in FreeBSD? .... how do I find out if it is seeing the card,? You are probably best off just using the generic NE2000 card. I sounds the Winbond card is ne2000. So, after you follow the steps for the net install off the two floppies that you downloaded and did an fdimiage kern.flp a: fdimage bootmfs.flp a:, in the hardware config screen, configure the ne2000 for the IRQ and address you set the card for. If you already have something installed, do a dmesg | grep ed0 ed0 is the name of the driver for the ne2000 card. > >>See www.apache.org >ummmm I think I have a dozen or so steps before apache Yes, but thats where the documentation is for the web server software. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 9:14:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226ED151A1 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:14:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn2128.bossig.com [208.26.242.128]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24633; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37C56769.3897A6F4@3-cities.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:12:25 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez Cc: Vadim Chekan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote: > > ______________________________ > Mr. Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez > Net Manager & Sys Admin > CEISIC. Ministry of Culture > ______________________________ > > On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Vadim Chekan wrote: > > > > > > > Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote: > > > > > > Greetings to everyone: > > > > > > Yesterday I just downloaded via CVSup the full source tree, for the stable > > > branch to my running system. I have previously read the "Making the world" > > > your own tutorial posted in the FreeBSD handbook, very carefully to follow > > > the instructions. But I got dissapointed when the time to type make > > > buildworld came, it started but not to long ago it suddenly stopped > > > complaining about a missing file or missing files. > > > > > > I include here the output sent to a file via the script command, where it > > > shows at the end what have failed. > > > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.6, 32 MB RAM, P MMX 233 MHz. I want to upgrade to > > > 3.x stable. > > > > > > Could someone give me a hint on this matter please ? > > > > > > script command output follows: > > > > > > Script started on Thu Aug 26 10:23:28 1999 > > > sh-2.01# make build          cd /usr/src > > > sh-2.01# make buildworld > > > > You should read the head of /usr/src/Makefile. > > > > # The aout->elf transition build is performed by doing a `make upgrade' > > (or > > # `make aout-to-elf') or in two steps by a `make aout-to-elf-build' > > followed > > # by a `make aout-to-elf-install', depending on user preference. > > > > Vadim Chekan. > > > > Well, I've just received you e-mail, then I checked on /usr/src/Makefile. > I remove the /src/obj dir and fired make aout-to-elf-build and it stopped > at the same place in the compilation process... I don't remember reading if anyone was really successful at making the jump from 2.2.x to 3.x in one step. There is a user's write up on what he did at http://freebsd.simplenet.com/make-upgrade.html You might try what he has done. Kent > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 9:26:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uncle.cult.cu (uncle.cult.cu [169.158.120.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4010814DCB for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:25:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elie@uncle.cult.cu) Received: from localhost (942 bytes) by uncle.cult.cu via sendmail with P:stdio/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:22:07 -0400 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #4 built 1998-Sep-15) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:22:06 -0400 (CDT) From: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez To: Kent Stewart Cc: Vadim Chekan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <37C56769.3897A6F4@3-cities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I don't remember reading if anyone was really successful at making the > jump from 2.2.x to 3.x in one step. There is a user's write up on what > he did at http://freebsd.simplenet.com/make-upgrade.html > > You might try what he has done. > > Kent Thanks, I'll go check it right away, you know, I'm scared about this, I'm now trying to upgrade my own FreeBSD workstation to later think about upgrading a couple of production systems. I'll do it just if upgrading my own one is successfull. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 9:40:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from copper.singnet.com.sg (copper.singnet.com.sg [165.21.7.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E2E15D11 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alvin@ajiang.com) Received: from arrakis (qtas1727.singnet.com.sg [165.21.53.37]) by copper.singnet.com.sg (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA25911 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:39:34 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <199908261639.AAA25911@copper.singnet.com.sg> X-Sender: alvin@pop.ajiang.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:38:10 +0000 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Alvin Jiang Subject: HP Netserver E60 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Does anyone know if the HP D5013A NIC is supported? In fact, I'm thinking of getting the entire HP E60 Netserver. Can anyone share experiences with this machine? Everything appears to be supported in the compatibility list, but I can't find any information on the card. I'm not sure which chipset it uses but I'd have to be sure the card works before I purchase the server. Thanks in advance. Regards, -- Alvin Jiang http://www.ajiang.com "Information - the currency of a computerised future" - Cyberpunk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 9:48:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles519.castles.com [208.214.165.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC3D15CA5 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:48:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02301; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:41:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199908261641.JAA02301@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mark Murray Cc: Wayne Willcox , Alexander Langer , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:11:48 +0200." <199908261411.QAA01552@gratis.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:41:32 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 10:42:58AM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote: > > > Thus spake Mike Smith (mike@smith.net.au): > > > > > > > > Methinks he found the type of hole in our documentation that gives > > > > > software a bad name :-). > > > > Did he happen to look at "The Complete FreeBSD"? > > > > > > The complete FreeBSD costs money. > > > > True but it is money well spent, I find alot of my answers in it. > > Useless concept when you need an answer at 3am :-) and you have no book. That's like complaining at 3am that you have no milk. You know you were going to eat them cookies, you should have been prepared. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 10: 4: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D538215CDA for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:03:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA02523; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:01:36 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199908261701.TAA02523@gratis.grondar.za> To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:01:34 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Useless concept when you need an answer at 3am :-) and you have no book. > > That's like complaining at 3am that you have no milk. You know you > were going to eat them cookies, you should have been prepared. Sorta :-). We always tell people to "RTFM", its just that this time TFM let our customer down. Telling him to go and buy a book is like telling me the next day to invest in a cow and a milking machine, when the only problem was a lousy convenience store with no milk. Bum analogy, I know. Tom is going to write something for me to commit; I think his "newbie"-ish status may help with an appropriate place to put them. He reckons that he was surprised that the FAQ did not have this, so that's where he is targeting his words. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 10:19:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from radius.wavefire.com (radius.workfire.net [139.142.95.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96536151BB for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:19:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swen@wavefire.com) Received: (qmail 22251 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1999 17:41:15 -0000 Received: from swen.wavefire.com (HELO swen) (139.142.95.222) by radius.workfire.net with SMTP; 26 Aug 1999 17:41:15 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990826102010.00a90760@mail.wavefire.com> X-Sender: swen@mail.wavefire.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:20:10 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Chameleon Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:41 AM 8/26/99 -0700, you wrote: >> > On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 10:42:58AM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote: >> > > Thus spake Mike Smith (mike@smith.net.au): >> > > >> > > > > Methinks he found the type of hole in our documentation that gives >> > > > > software a bad name :-). >> > > > Did he happen to look at "The Complete FreeBSD"? >> > > >> > > The complete FreeBSD costs money. >> > >> > True but it is money well spent, I find alot of my answers in it. >> >> Useless concept when you need an answer at 3am :-) and you have no book. > >That's like complaining at 3am that you have no milk. You know you >were going to eat them cookies, you should have been prepared. > GOT MILK? >-- >\\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith >\\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org >\\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > ~ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- GCS/O d-(+) s:+>:- a- C++++ UB++$>++++$ P+ L++>++++$ E-- W++(++) N+ o? K? w--- O- M-- V-- PS+ PE@ Y PGP t++ 5++ X R* tv++ b+++(+) DI++ D+++ G++ e++ h---->$ r+++ x** -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 12:22:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt010nb9.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864B115CDA for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:22:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt010nb9.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA60516; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:20:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:20:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt010nb9.san.rr.com To: Neil Long Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question of longevity In-Reply-To: <990826161120.ZM4951@ratbert.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Neil Long wrote: > Hello > > (No point in sending this to -current!). Actually this is more of a -questions thing. > I have a FreeBSD+drawbridge host which just runs and runs and has no > problems. It has been up now for 444 days > (2.2.6-RELEASE DRAWBRIDGE-3.0b2) > and I am planning to upgrade it RSN! > > Just wondered if FreeBSD ever suffered the 'uptime' problems that the > L-Word did/does (498 day uptime can cause panics in some Linux > kernels). No, 500 day plus uptimes have been reported frequently on the various lists. Good luck, Doug -- "My mama told me, my mama said, 'don't cry.' 'She said you're too young a man to have as many women you got.' I looked at my mother dear and didn't even crack a smile. I said, 'If women kill me, I don't mind dyin!'" - John Belushi as "Joliet" Jake Blues, "I Don't Know" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 12:36:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (paprika.michvhf.com [209.57.60.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AFB914E90 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:36:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 5890 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Aug 1999 19:35:53 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199908261641.JAA02301@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:35:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Face: *0^4Iw) To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Alexander Langer , Wayne Willcox , Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 26-Aug-99 Mike Smith wrote: >> > On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 10:42:58AM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote: >> > > Thus spake Mike Smith (mike@smith.net.au): >> > > >> > > > > Methinks he found the type of hole in our documentation that gives >> > > > > software a bad name :-). >> > > > Did he happen to look at "The Complete FreeBSD"? >> > > >> > > The complete FreeBSD costs money. >> > >> > True but it is money well spent, I find alot of my answers in it. >> >> Useless concept when you need an answer at 3am :-) and you have no book. > > That's like complaining at 3am that you have no milk. You know you > were going to eat them cookies, you should have been prepared. Hmmm. I'm going to try out this free operating system and maybe get away from windoze once and for all. Gee, I think I'll go drop $40 to get this book so I know how to find drive D: as windows calls it. Yeah, that makes sense. Har! Now before you comment, yes I do own a copy of the book and refer to it as needed. It's an excellent reference, but how to find and mount your cd shouldn't require a 2 1/2" thick book whether it's 3am or 3pm. Many new FreeBSD users are coming from the windoze world where the cd just shows up like magic. There's no reason to make it unpleasant for them to make the switch by hiding what should be obvious. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com flame-mail: /dev/null # include TEAM-OS2 Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ========================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 12:55:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D0C15443; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:53:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA93733; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:53:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:53:00 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Cc: jack Subject: Re: Docs blows up make release Message-ID: <19990826205300.A93397@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990822110511.A89933@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990822110511.A89933@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 11:05:11AM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -stable, -current, On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 11:05:11AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > [ cc'd to -current ] > > On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 07:54:51PM -0400, jack wrote: > > > > Will support for building release docs in English only be > > revived? > > > > For the immediate future, it looks like it will -- it seems as though > we don't have the man power to make the necessary changes to sysinstall > to support "installing the docs as packages", so I'm going to fix up > src/release/Makefile as necessary to cope with the new directory structure. With thanks to Jack O'Neill, this is now done. They're only in -current at the moment, but they should backport to -stable fairly easily. I'd be obliged if those if you who like to do these things grabbed a copy of -current that has r1.504 of src/release/Makefile, and tried building a release with that, and a copy of the doc/ tree that's of a similar vintage. Everything should pretty much work. Brickbats should be sent my way if it doesn't. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 13:24:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DCA14DAE for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:24:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04632; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:23:47 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199908262023.WAA04632@gratis.grondar.za> To: Chameleon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:23:44 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG And the point of this unedited "thing" is?? M > At 09:41 AM 8/26/99 -0700, you wrote: > > >> > On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 10:42:58AM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote: > > >> > > Thus spake Mike Smith (mike@smith.net.au): > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Methinks he found the type of hole in our documentation that gives > > >> > > > > software a bad name :-). > > >> > > > Did he happen to look at "The Complete FreeBSD"? > > >> > > > > >> > > The complete FreeBSD costs money. > > >> > > > >> > True but it is money well spent, I find alot of my answers in it. > > >> > > >> Useless concept when you need an answer at 3am :-) and you have no book. > > > > > >That's like complaining at 3am that you have no milk. You know you > > >were going to eat them cookies, you should have been prepared. > > > > > > GOT MILK? > > > >-- > > >\\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith > > >\\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org > > >\\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > ~ > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > > GCS/O d-(+) s:+>:- a- C++++ UB++$>++++$ P+ L++>++++$ E-- > > W++(++) N+ o? K? w--- O- M-- V-- PS+ PE@ Y PGP t++ 5++ X > > R* tv++ b+++(+) DI++ D+++ G++ e++ h---->$ r+++ x** > > -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 15:58:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A6D15DB0 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:58:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ianjhart@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from modem-98.zidovudine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.94.226] helo=bigfoot) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11K8Rw-00009h-00; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:56:53 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bef015$aeff50e0$e25e883e@bigfoot> Reply-To: "ian j hart" From: "ian j hart" To: "Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:47:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez To: Kent Stewart Cc: Vadim Chekan ; Sent: 26 August 1999 17:22 Subject: Re: > > > > > I don't remember reading if anyone was really successful at making the > > jump from 2.2.x to 3.x in one step. There is a user's write up on what > > he did at http://freebsd.simplenet.com/make-upgrade.html > > > > You might try what he has done. > > > > Kent > > > Thanks, I'll go check it right away, you know, I'm scared about this, I'm > now trying to upgrade my own FreeBSD workstation to later think about > upgrading a couple of production systems. I'll do it just if upgrading my > own one is successfull. > This is my first post, please be gentle with me :-) I have just done this very thing, namely upgrade from 2_2_6_RELEASE to 3_1_STABLE. My advice would be very simple, don't do it. You will find it much less stressfull to start from scratch and ftp the binaries. I should say before I get too deeply into this that my knowledge of the inner workings of BSD could be written on the back of a postcard. Secondly, I didn't keep any kind of log. To be quite honest I wasn't expecting it to work at all. This is my home system so I was quite prepared to go the ftp binaries route after the experiment with the source. I did a make clean before the make upgrade. I still had to pass -k to make as doscmd wouldn't build. After recompiling the kernel I thought I had a working system. However I was getting some wierd things happening. I discovered that the file system was being corrupted. This seemed to be due to interrupting processes, either with CONTROL C or kill. Another make world + kernel ( or 3) seems to have sorted the problem. There were quite a few files in /etc which I thought were up to date but which were not. Of course this was quite difficult. Since the file system was subject to corruption I had to fix it and refetch source files several times before I got a good build. Some parts of amd still refuse to build. So far I have spent 2 weeks+ on this. Admittedly in my spare time. X has proved as difficult to build but now runs. Netscape however does not, so I'm mailing this from MSWidows. So as not to be all doom and gloom, I can say I've learnt a great deal. Also I would recommend to you cvsupit and mergemaster. All praise to the coders. ian e-mail: ianjhart@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 16: 2:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0CD15D04 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:02:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05357; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:00:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Jeff Baker Cc: Mark Murray , lexander Langer , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newbee In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:12:35 +0930." <199908261442.AAA20099@bow.portal.net.au> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:00:32 -0700 Message-ID: <5354.935708432@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi Guys, > Pardon me for jumping into your emails.....The basic concept of your > trail was spot on. This should be discussed in -questions, not -stable. Thank you. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 16: 3: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A5614DB8 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:02:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05339; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:59:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:28:03 EDT." Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:59:52 -0700 Message-ID: <5335.935708392@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Yesterday I just downloaded via CVSup the full source tree, for the stable > branch to my running system. I have previously read the "Making the world" > your own tutorial posted in the FreeBSD handbook, very carefully to follow > the instructions. But I got dissapointed when the time to type make You missed the instructions telling you to "make upgrade" if you're coming from 2.2.x and want to go to 3.x. Just doing a buildworld won't work in this scenario. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 16:13:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DDC1517A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:13:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id BAA26478; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 01:05:16 +0200 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id BAA09026; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 01:04:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Juergen Lock Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 01:04:48 +0200 To: Adrian Penisoara Cc: Alan Cox , Juergen Lock , scrappy@hub.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.2-STABLE hangs after several hours ... Message-ID: <19990827010447.A9022@saturn.kn-bremen.de> References: <19990824153116.P39490@nonpc.cs.rice.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Adrian Penisoara on Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 02:17:42PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 02:17:42PM +0300, Adrian Penisoara wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Alan Cox wrote: > > > > > >In case anyone is looking at this, with as little info as there is here, > > > > >the last kernel updated was July 13th, so its between then and now that > > > > >the "bug" appears to have been introduced... > > > > > > > > I also went to update my kernel yesterday and stumbled across what > > > > appears to be the same problems as yours, hanging processes until the > > > > entire system becomes unusable... And here is what i came up with: > > > > > > It seems that I've been bitten by the same bug (the machine suddenly > > > freezes after some 2-3 hours); I'm checking out right now the submitted > > > patch and I'll let you know (probably tomorrow) how it works for me... > > > > > > > Please check if you have a process hung in "objtrm". Juergen did. > > I haven't the kernel debugger compiled in (as this is a production > machine); First, you don't need the kernel debugger to check a hung processes wchan, a ps -l will show it as well. (as does a ^t on its control tty, if it has one) > anyone care to point me out some documentatin suited to my > situation (kernel debugging on production machines) ? There's a section about kernel debugging in the handbook, http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kerneldebug.html about production machines, well, you can still add ddb with the options DDB_UNATTENDED then the box will recover itself from a panic as it does without ddb. and the stuff about enabling crashdumps and building a kernel with -g applies to all machines anyway as long as you can spare the diskspace... > > > If so, this is the same bug reported in the "mSQL getting stuck > > in objtrm state" thread, and it has nothing to do with the changes > > below. (See my earlier message on this subject to the -STABLE list.) > > I checked out the previous threads and my situation appears to be similar > to those described in the "On freezes in 3.2-stable" thread, although I > have only 128Mb of RAM and UP kernel; see the attached dmesg output for > more details... > > Let me tell you how it worked for me: > > * I had an uptime of more than 13 hours with Juergen's patch, but that's > not so conclusive, as these freezes tend to be somewhat random > > * When I saw your commit I reverted the patch, cvsupped and rebuilt the > kernel; the machine hung up some 7-8 hours later ... > with the atomic.h fix (which alc mailed me) i cannot reproduce the hang anymore, at least the way i could with the broken kernels. so i would _guess_ that this hang you got had a different cause and it would be interesting to know what it was... > I really don't know what to blame, kernel bug or faulty hardware; one > thing I can be sure about is that the machine has been rock stable until > I've started to track -STABLE from 3.1-RELEASE somtime around 6th August. All -stable kernels after Jul 28 showed the hangs for me. Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 16:16: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt010nb9.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E571517A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:15:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt010nb9.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA63615; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:15:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:15:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt010nb9.san.rr.com To: Vince Vielhaber Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > Hmmm. I'm going to try out this free operating system and maybe get > away from windoze once and for all. Gee, I think I'll go drop $40 to > get this book so I know how to find drive D: as windows calls it. > > Yeah, that makes sense. Har! If you are going to be trying out an entirely new way of using your computer it makes total sense to get some instructions on how to do that, yes. For some of us the time spent trying to dig out answers on our own is worth a lot more than the $40 for the book. If that's not true for you, that's great, but please don't belittle those who offered a completely rational suggestion. You are making the mistake of equating "free" with "of no value." The fact that the OS is offered free doesn't mean that there is not an investment involved. Be it time, money, hair pulled out, what have you. > Now before you comment, yes I do own a copy of the book and refer to it > as needed. It's an excellent reference, but how to find and mount your > cd shouldn't require a 2 1/2" thick book whether it's 3am or 3pm. Many > new FreeBSD users are coming from the windoze world where the cd just > shows up like magic. There's no reason to make it unpleasant for them > to make the switch by hiding what should be obvious. While we can agree to disagree on the "should" at the end of your sentence, no one disagreed with the premise that the documentation can stand improvement, and several people offered to commit said improvements when they arrive. Unfortunately the diff you attached with those changes seems to be missing from my copy of your e-mail. Can you resubmit it please? Thanks, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 17:33:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (paprika.michvhf.com [209.57.60.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 202CE154C5 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:33:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 6472 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Aug 1999 00:32:32 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:32:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Face: *0^4Iw) To: Doug Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 26-Aug-99 Doug wrote: > While we can agree to disagree on the "should" at the end of your > sentence, no one disagreed with the premise that the documentation can > stand improvement, and several people offered to commit said improvements > when they arrive. Unfortunately the diff you attached with those changes > seems to be missing from my copy of your e-mail. Can you resubmit it > please? I offer to help make changes quite often. The last couple of times they fell on deaf ears and I have much better things to occupy my time with than chasing people around. IOW, the diffs are missing from this one too and don't hold your breath waiting for 'em. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com flame-mail: /dev/null # include TEAM-OS2 Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ========================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 18: 0:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B0D15332 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:00:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1246.bossig.com [208.26.241.246]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15969; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37C5E2CB.97D6F8D5@3-cities.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:58:51 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ian j hart Cc: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: References: <000b01bef015$aeff50e0$e25e883e@bigfoot> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ian j hart wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez > To: Kent Stewart > Cc: Vadim Chekan ; > Sent: 26 August 1999 17:22 > Subject: Re: > > > > > > > > > I don't remember reading if anyone was really successful at making the > > > jump from 2.2.x to 3.x in one step. There is a user's write up on what > > > he did at http://freebsd.simplenet.com/make-upgrade.html > > > > > > You might try what he has done. > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > Thanks, I'll go check it right away, you know, I'm scared about this, I'm > > now trying to upgrade my own FreeBSD workstation to later think about > > upgrading a couple of production systems. I'll do it just if upgrading my > > own one is successfull. > > > > This is my first post, please be gentle with me :-) > > I have just done this very thing, namely upgrade from 2_2_6_RELEASE to > 3_1_STABLE. My advice would be very simple, don't do it. You will find it > much less stressfull to start from scratch and ftp the binaries. > > I should say before I get too deeply into this that my knowledge of the > inner workings of BSD could be written on the back of a postcard. Secondly, > I didn't keep any kind of log. To be quite honest I wasn't expecting it to > work at all. This is my home system so I was quite prepared to go the ftp > binaries route after the experiment with the source. > > I did a make clean before the make upgrade. I still had to pass -k to make > as doscmd wouldn't build. After recompiling the kernel I thought I had a > working system. However I was getting some wierd things happening. I > discovered that the file system was being corrupted. This seemed to be due > to interrupting processes, either with CONTROL C or kill. Another make world > + kernel ( or 3) seems to have sorted the problem. There were quite a few > files in /etc which I thought were up to date but which were not. Of course > this was quite difficult. Since the file system was subject to corruption I > had to fix it and refetch source files several times before I got a good > build. Some parts of amd still refuse to build. > > So far I have spent 2 weeks+ on this. Admittedly in my spare time. X has > proved as difficult to build but now runs. Netscape however does not, so I'm > mailing this from MSWidows. Hi Ian, I never had any problems upgrading. I really don't run edge technology (leading or trailing). I chose hardware based on hardware compatability lists and not the specifications. It doesn't do any good to get the latest gee-whiz when it doesn't work on all of the systems that you use. My main justification for 2.2.8 was access to a unix system for a series of FORTRAN programs that I was interested in. It was also a learning eperience. I was retired and I needed a new challeng. I just didn't realize what a project it would turn into. It used a NT server that was running NAT for out side access. It worked just fine and I don't fix things that aren't broken. I still use NT for e-mail because I sort on subject before I ever do a reply. You won't see me be part of a bunch of replies unless we all hit the majordomo at the same time. At some point I needed something and NT didn't have it and so NT isn't my NAT gateway any more. The installation of 2.2.8 was really simple because I really only added X and networking. I was introduced to FreeBSD just before 3.0 was released. I never installed 3.0 because of the problems and many recommendations that you don't install it. When the CD's for 3.1 arrived, I spent two weeks following -questions before I opened the box the 3.1 CDROM's were shipped in and then I did an upgrade from a floppy boot. It was totaly successful on the first try. Shortly after that my main HD died and I replaced it with a 13GB Western Digital. The novice install of everything went faster than the upgrade did and worked out of the box. I had to add a few things to my aliases and change the way X came up. After a couple of weeks, I cvsup'ed to 3.1-Stable and have been following the stable branch ever since. The only time the system has been quirky was during the transition to 3.2-Release and then I learned the value of MergeMaster. Just before the switch, I had gone from a SuperMicro MB with a P166 to an Asus P2B-B with a Cleron 433. Life was much better because nothing required forever to accomplish. Unfortunately, things were being introduced, broken and fixed faster than I could upgrade my system. When I started using MergeMaster, a system upgrade was something you did in an hour. A buildworld runs around 2100u. That leaves 25 minutes to run MergeMaster and have an hour upgrade. Without MergeMaster the upgrades were taking hours. X was especially quirky for a couple of weeks. It was like they changed a table and something was upgraded and then everything was in sync and problem free. The system was for a special purpose and wasn't supporting a number of customers. When you have many customers on a box, you spend the time to do the upgrade. Reinstalling the user base really isn't an option. BTW, I have Netscape on all of my systems and it actually boots on the Celeron faster than on NT. I have many more plug-ins on NT and they add significantly to the startup time. Some time soon, I will change the window manger and see what is really out there. XDM, or what ever the default is, is really a command line version that supports x-apps and there are lots of choices out there to play with :). Cheers, Kent > > So as not to be all doom and gloom, I can say I've learnt a great deal. Also > I would recommend to you cvsupit and mergemaster. All praise to the coders. > > ian > > e-mail: ianjhart@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 21: 7:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from convair.com (shem.lightrealm.com [207.159.139.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDB915477 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:07:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from md@convair.com) Received: from convair.com (s140.paris-22.cybercable.fr [212.198.22.140]) by convair.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA18674 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:07:41 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <37C5FB90.8B2C38A0@convair.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:44:32 +0200 From: Michel Davoudian X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Upgrading to 3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi evryone, I used a 2.2.6 for a year without problems and had the good idea to upgrade to 3.2 stable. The process was smooth ... until I updated the rc.conf file and wrote a mistake in it (kind of bad quote somewhere..) Now I have the following problem : I can't boot any Kernel . I always get the error message : etc/default/rc.conf : 222 : Syntax error : EOF in backquote substitution. Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: I type and get following prompt: [\u@\h \W]# mount command gives : wds01a on / (local, read-only) and HERE is the problem : The filesystem is read-only and consequently I can't delete rc.conf nor rename rc.conf.previous in order to correct my mistake. Other detail, I can't see any DIR called /etc/default and the files rc.conf + rc.conf.previous are in the /etc DIR I quickly gave life back to an old Linux 2.034 server who was retired (DX2-66 !) and try to find a solution... Thanks for any hint to make this filesystem writable. I tried many options of the mount command but maybe my ideas are not so clear now... Michel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 21:57:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blockhead.mincom.com (blockhead1.mincom.com [203.55.175.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1481B14EF9 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:57:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philh@mincom.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by blockhead.mincom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA64698; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:55:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from philh@mincom.com) Received: from porthole.mincom.oz.au(172.17.100.2) via SMTP by blockhead.mincom.oz.au, id smtpdF64694; Fri Aug 27 14:55:57 1999 Received: (from philh@localhost) by porthole.mincom.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA26903; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:55:53 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:55:53 +1000 From: Phil Homewood To: Michel Davoudian Cc: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Upgrading to 3.2 Message-ID: <19990827145553.H9328@mincom.com> References: <37C5FB90.8B2C38A0@convair.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <37C5FB90.8B2C38A0@convair.com>; from Michel Davoudian on Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 04:44:32AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michel Davoudian wrote: > Thanks for any hint to make this filesystem writable. I tried many > options of the mount command but maybe my ideas are not so clear now... mount -u / -- Phil Homewood DNRC email: philh@mincom.com Postmaster and BOFH Mincom Pty Ltd phone: +61-7-3303-3524 Brisbane, QLD Australia fax: +61-7-3303-3269 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 21:58:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from inet.chip-web.com (c1003518-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.1.82.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41882151AD for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:58:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 2008 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 04:58:50 -0000 Received: from furball.chip-web.com (HELO bigfoot.com) (172.16.1.29) by inet.chip-web.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 04:58:50 -0000 Message-ID: <37C61AF7.D360D4CF@bigfoot.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:58:31 -0700 From: Ludwig Pummer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michel Davoudian Cc: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Upgrading to 3.2 References: <37C5FB90.8B2C38A0@convair.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michel Davoudian wrote: > mount command gives : wds01a on / (local, read-only) and HERE is the > problem : The filesystem is read-only and consequently I can't delete > rc.conf nor rename rc.conf.previous in order to correct my mistake. > > Other detail, I can't see any DIR called /etc/default and the files > rc.conf + rc.conf.previous are in the /etc DIR > > Thanks for any hint to make this filesystem writable. I tried many > options of the mount command but maybe my ideas are not so clear now... "mount -a" to mount all of the filesystems listed in /etc/fstab /etc/default should exist in /usr/src/etc (or wherever you keep your FreeBSD sources). It should have been made when you upgraded /etc (you did upgrade /etc, didn't you?). --Ludwig Pummer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 22: 5:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from convair.com (shem.lightrealm.com [207.159.139.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D3914EE9 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:05:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from md@convair.com) Received: from convair.com (s140.paris-22.cybercable.fr [212.198.22.140]) by convair.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA07281 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:05:32 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <37C6091E.860249DD@convair.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 05:42:22 +0200 From: Michel Davoudian X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Upgrading to 3.2 References: <37C5FB90.8B2C38A0@convair.com> <37C61AF7.D360D4CF@bigfoot.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Michel Davoudian wrote: > > mount command gives : wds01a on / (local, read-only) and HERE is the > > problem : The filesystem is read-only and consequently I can't delete > > rc.conf nor rename rc.conf.previous in order to correct my mistake. > > > > Other detail, I can't see any DIR called /etc/default and the files > > rc.conf + rc.conf.previous are in the /etc DIR > > > > Thanks for any hint to make this filesystem writable. I tried many > > options of the mount command but maybe my ideas are not so clear now... > Thanks to all . I fixed the problem now (so far...) with the mount -u (should read the doc more carefully)... Well it's 7 am now ... should take a little rest ... Michel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 22:40:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2E214E6E; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:40:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA35417; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:39:15 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: (from tarkhil@localhost) by shuttle.svib.ru (8.9.3/8.8.8) id JAA13492; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:39:05 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil) From: Alex Povolotsky MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14278.9335.834988.620763@shuttle.svib.ru> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:39:03 +0400 (MSD) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Help! What's happening? X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 21.1 "20 Minutes to Nikko" XEmacs Lucid (patch 2) X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What does the following messages mean? My hard disks are going away? Or something in kernel has failed? Or what? [9:35] over:...work/m2p # swapinfo /usr/sbin/swapinfo: Input/output error. [9:35] over:...work/m2p # Aug 27 09:35:56 over /kernel: spec_getpages: I/O read failure: (error code=6) Aug 27 09:35:56 over /kernel: spec_getpages: I/O read failure: (error code=6) Aug 27 09:35:56 over /kernel: size: 13312, resid: 13312, a_count: 13152, valid: 0x0 Aug 27 09:35:56 over /kernel: size: 13312, resid: 13312, a_count: 13152, valid: 0x0 Aug 27 09:35:56 over /kernel: nread: 0, reqpage: 0, pindex: 0, pcount: 4 Aug 27 09:35:56 over /kernel: nread: 0, reqpage: 0, pindex: 0, pcount: 4 FreeBSD over.ru 3.0-19990619-STABLE FreeBSD 3.0-19990619-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 22 18:47:04 GMT 1999 root@myname.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/OVER i386 -- Alexander B. Povolotsky [ICQ 18277558] [2:5020/145] [http://freebsd.svib.ru] [tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 22:48:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (af.speednet.com.au [202.135.206.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C3014E6E for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:48:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by backup.af.speednet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13260 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:48:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:48:11 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-Sender: andyf@localhost To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <5335.935708392@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > You missed the instructions telling you to "make upgrade" if you're > coming from 2.2.x and want to go to 3.x. Just doing a buildworld > won't work in this scenario. > > - Jordan What is the definitive answer to doing a 'make upgrade' on a production system running an older 2.2.x - is it ok to do it at the multiuser level, or must one bring the system to single-user mode, hence denying services during the duration of this rather long process?? The ``Making the world'' tutorial talks about this in section 3, but is full of "may"'s and "if"'s and doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence. -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 23: 5:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61ACF154B9 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:05:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06969; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:05:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Andy Farkas Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:48:11 +1000." Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:05:20 -0700 Message-ID: <6965.935733920@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > What is the definitive answer to doing a 'make upgrade' on a production > system running an older 2.2.x - is it ok to do it at the multiuser level, > or must one bring the system to single-user mode, hence denying services > during the duration of this rather long process?? I wouldn't use make upgrade on a production server at all, to be honest. I'd back up the user files and reinstall, or install onto a 2nd box, migrate the files, then switch over. This is how I do all production boxes. The upgrade target is by no means guaranteed to do anything more than turn a production box into hash. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 23:10:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from public.bta.net.cn (public.bta.net.cn [202.96.0.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9633414D31 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:10:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: from netrinsics.com (TCE-E-7-181-10.bta.net.cn [202.106.181.10]) by public.bta.net.cn (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA17373 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:06:41 +0800 (CST) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id NAA27601; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:28:31 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:28:31 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199908270528.NAA27601@netrinsics.com> To: Jeff.Baker@acadhotline.net.au, stephen@math.missouri.edu Subject: Re: Newbee Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <37C5638C.681C665D@math.missouri.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Any unix like OS will have a steep initial learning curve, and there >is a lot of learning to do. What is a "steep learning curve"? Where does that term come from? -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 23:42:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37A715421 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:42:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA66963; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:41:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37C63323.F4FABC41@gorean.org> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:41:39 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0826 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Andy Farkas , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make upgrade References: <6965.935733920@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > What is the definitive answer to doing a 'make upgrade' on a production > > system running an older 2.2.x - is it ok to do it at the multiuser level, > > or must one bring the system to single-user mode, hence denying services > > during the duration of this rather long process?? > > I wouldn't use make upgrade on a production server at all, to be > honest. I'd back up the user files and reinstall, or install onto a > 2nd box, migrate the files, then switch over. This is how I do all > production boxes. The upgrade target is by no means guaranteed to do > anything more than turn a production box into hash. I agree with Jordan here. If you have console access there are a lot of good reasons to use it and start clean. If console access is not an option, or if you are feeling adventurous, try http://freebsd.simplenet.com/make-upgrade.html. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 26 23:54:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D433115E5A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:53:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA07342; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:52:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Kiril Mitev Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: failure installing CVSUP .... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:45:47 -0000." <199908241645.QAA40005@loki.ideaglobal.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:52:46 -0700 Message-ID: <7339.935736766@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Sorry for the cross-post, I dont know which of -ports and -stable > is more appropriate for this. Neither, this should have gone to -questions. :) > running: (lines folded by me :-) > > pkg_add \ > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/CVSup/cvsup-bin-16.0.tar.gz Ummmm. Files ending in .tgz are packages. Files ending in tar.gz are gzipped tarballs which SHOULD NEVER BE FED TO PKG_ADD. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 27 0:18:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [194.102.224.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A7715CCE for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:18:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02039; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:19:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:19:34 +0300 (EEST) From: Adrian Penisoara To: Juergen Lock Cc: Alan Cox , scrappy@hub.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.2-STABLE hangs after several hours ... In-Reply-To: <19990827010447.A9022@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Juergen Lock wrote: > First, you don't need the kernel debugger to check a hung processes > wchan, a ps -l will show it as well. (as does a ^t on its control tty, > if it has one) I can't, the machine is completely frozen (not even ping/telnet response) I can only see the frozen screensaver... > > > anyone care to point me out some documentatin suited to my > > situation (kernel debugging on production machines) ? [ THX for the info, I'll need it... ] > > I checked out the previous threads and my situation appears to be similar > > to those described in the "On freezes in 3.2-stable" thread, although I > > have only 128Mb of RAM and UP kernel; see the attached dmesg output for > > more details... > > > > Let me tell you how it worked for me: > > > > * I had an uptime of more than 13 hours with Juergen's patch, but that's > > not so conclusive, as these freezes tend to be somewhat random > > > > * When I saw your commit I reverted the patch, cvsupped and rebuilt the > > kernel; the machine hung up some 7-8 hours later ... > > > with the atomic.h fix (which alc mailed me) i cannot reproduce the > hang anymore, at least the way i could with the broken kernels. > so i would _guess_ that this hang you got had a different cause > and it would be interesting to know what it was... Well, well: I have both the atomic.h fix and the vm_object.h patch applied, but the machine keeps freezing on high loads (it seems). I guess I have to start checking again the hardware and jump on the debugging stick... > > > I really don't know what to blame, kernel bug or faulty hardware; one > > thing I can be sure about is that the machine has been rock stable until > > I've started to track -STABLE from 3.1-RELEASE somtime around 6th August. > > All -stable kernels after Jul 28 showed the hangs for me. Hmmm, sometimes I really wonder if downgrading to a pre-August world/kernel wouldn't be a good ideea... > > Regards, > -- > Juergen Lock > (remove dot foo from address to reply) > "Well, back to the drawing board..." Ady (@freebsd.ady.ro) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 27 0:52:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC6B15467 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:52:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11KGn3-000EBq-00; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:51:13 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Vince Vielhaber Cc: Doug , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:32:32 -0400." Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:51:13 +0200 Message-ID: <54549.935740273@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:32:32 -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > I offer to help make changes quite often. The last couple of times they > fell on deaf ears and I have much better things to occupy my time with > than chasing people around. $ query-pr --summary --originator="Vielhaber" query-pr: no PRs matched I suggest you be more careful about accusations of deaf ears until you've used the appropriate channels for change requests. man send-pr Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 27 0:58:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1938154D2 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:58:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11KGsS-000EFP-00; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:56:48 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Andy Farkas , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:05:20 MST." <6965.935733920@localhost> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:56:48 +0200 Message-ID: <54770.935740608@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:05:20 MST, "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > The upgrade target is by no means guaranteed to do anything more than > turn a production box into hash. Pretty useful when you're having a bad crack come-down. $ cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall $ cvs -qR log config.c package.c |grep crack Man, was I ever smoking crack when I wrote this. Don't free() Erm, delete the package base hint again. Gotta lay off the crack! ;-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 27 2:52:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (paprika.michvhf.com [209.57.60.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D567E15485 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 02:52:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 7647 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Aug 1999 09:50:41 -0000 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 05:50:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Vielhaber To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Doug , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps In-Reply-To: <54549.935740273@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:32:32 -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > > I offer to help make changes quite often. The last couple of times they > > fell on deaf ears and I have much better things to occupy my time with > > than chasing people around. > > $ query-pr --summary --originator="Vielhaber" > query-pr: no PRs matched > > I suggest you be more careful about accusations of deaf ears until > you've used the appropriate channels for change requests. > > man send-pr I suggest you become more aware prior to running your mouth. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com flame-mail: /dev/null # include TEAM-OS2 Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ========================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 27 3:22:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from volodya.prime.net.ua (volodya.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD24814D59; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:22:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volodya.prime.net.ua (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29829; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:22:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <37C666E9.162AC443@prime.net.ua> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:22:34 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" Organization: M-Info X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ru, uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: FS Subject: wtmp/utmp format distortion again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Having upgraded 2.2.7-R box to 3.2-S recently I've faced wtmp/utmp problem causing w/last/who utils to not work properly. Zeroing wtmp/utmp/lastlog doesnt help. Every time wtmp/utmp is updated there are recorded 36-bytes records which should be (I beleave) 44-bytes long. Upgrade went w/o seriouse trouble. Is it only way to fix the situation to remake world? -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office prime.net.ua's U have good chance to obtain system administrator virtual money ö%-) +380442448363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 27 3:28:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9350A15530 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:28:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA08671; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:26:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Vince Vielhaber Cc: Sheldon Hearn , Doug , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Aug 1999 05:50:41 EDT." Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:26:57 -0700 Message-ID: <8668.935749617@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I suggest you become more aware prior to running your mouth. Enough. This thread is over. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 27 3:30:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vax1.baker.ie (VAX1.baker.IE [194.125.50.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D8AC14D59; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:30:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cillian@baker.ie) Received: from baker.ie ([194.125.50.55]) by vax1.baker.ie with ESMTP; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:35:22 +0100 Message-ID: <37C6655C.28948863@baker.ie> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:15:56 +0100 From: Cillian Sharkey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andy V. Oleynik" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FS Subject: Re: wtmp/utmp format distortion again References: <37C666E9.162AC443@prime.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Having upgraded 2.2.7-R box to 3.2-S recently I've faced > wtmp/utmp problem causing w/last/who utils to not work > properly. Zeroing wtmp/utmp/lastlog doesnt help. Every > time wtmp/utmp is updated there are recorded 36-bytes > records which should be (I beleave) 44-bytes long. Upgrade > went w/o seriouse trouble. Is it only way to fix the situation > to remake world? You shouldn't have to remake world..usually the culprits are any 2.2.x binaries that are still being used on the system and which write entries into wtmp/utmp..ssh has been the culprit before, just recompile any of the old binaries again.. Cillian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 27 5:11:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00CC15E1A; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 05:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03969; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:09:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:09:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Behrens To: Michael Robinson Cc: Jeff.Baker@acadhotline.net.au, stephen@math.missouri.edu, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbee In-Reply-To: <199908270528.NAA27601@netrinsics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [This thread really doesn't belong in -stable. Followups directed to -chat, which I really must subscribe to one of these days. :-)] On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Michael Robinson wrote: : >Any unix like OS will have a steep initial learning curve, and there : >is a lot of learning to do. : : What is a "steep learning curve"? Where does that term come from? Picture this, if you will: A graph with two axes, the vertical being time and knowledge invested, and the horizontal being what you can accomplish. Obviously everything starts at zero. With any UNIXish system, you can expect that your first bit of learning you must invest will be more than you get out of the system. Therefore the line drawn as you invest time and learning knowledge goes upward steeply while travelling to the right slowly. However, the design philosophy of UNIX is quite ingenious, IMO. The curve will eventually start to flatten much more, so that you invest a lot less to accomplish more results. To contrast that, if you take a system like Windows NT your initial curve does give you quite a few immediate rewards right away, but you find as you go that your curve starts to steepen -- taking much more investment to accomplish the same thing. Eventually with NT you will also reach a point where you cannot do it at all and must rely on others -- this is where the beauty of open source OSs come in: if you care to invest, you can make your OS do *anything*. I'd draw a picture but this is ASCII mail... oh, heck, I'll do it anyway... just don't laugh. (And don't ask me what the learning curve is to draw ASCII graphs.) :-) | , | , . | ,. | UNIX- . , | . , | . , | . , -NT | . , |. , __|.________________ | HTH. (God, that graph really is terrible, isn't it?) :-) Matt Behrens Owner/Administrator, zigg.com Chief Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 27 9:26:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peloton.runet.edu (peloton.runet.edu [137.45.96.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243C61553A for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:26:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.runet.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05377; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:23:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:23:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Taylor To: Andy Farkas Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Andy Farkas wrote: > What is the definitive answer to doing a 'make upgrade' on a > production system running an older 2.2.x - is it ok to do it at the > multiuser level, or must one bring the system to single-user mode, > hence denying services during the duration of this rather long > process?? Don't know what the "definitive answer" is, but I've done 3 make upgrades and all succeeded (all done in multi-user mode) - admittedly there were _not_ a lot of users on the machines in question. Brett ***************************************************** Brett Taylor brett@peloton.runet.edu * Dept of Chem and Physics * Curie 39A (540) 831-6147 * ***************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 27 13:33:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uncle.cult.cu (uncle.cult.cu [169.158.120.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196F415012 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:33:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elie@uncle.cult.cu) Received: from localhost (1715 bytes) by uncle.cult.cu via sendmail with P:stdio/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:31:50 -0400 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #4 built 1998-Sep-15) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:31:50 -0400 (CDT) From: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez To: Brett Taylor Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ______________________________ Mr. Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez Net Manager & Sys Admin CEISIC. Ministry of Culture ______________________________ On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Brett Taylor wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Andy Farkas wrote: > > > What is the definitive answer to doing a 'make upgrade' on a > > production system running an older 2.2.x - is it ok to do it at the > > multiuser level, or must one bring the system to single-user mode, > > hence denying services during the duration of this rather long > > process?? > > Don't know what the "definitive answer" is, but I've done 3 make upgrades > and all succeeded (all done in multi-user mode) - admittedly there were > _not_ a lot of users on the machines in question. > You mean, you have performed upgrade on production systems without dying of heart attack. I've just come from my first upgrade on my own system, and after dealing with ldconfig -aout all my old binaries are working, even X. So I'm considering now doing it on my two real production systems via NFS. I see in the list there are people againts this procedure, I really don't know what to decide, anyway I'll be able to reproduce my original systems in case something goes wrong, cause I run the amanda backup system so I've them on tape. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 27 13:41:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uncle.cult.cu (uncle.cult.cu [169.158.120.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F1C15012 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:41:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elie@uncle.cult.cu) Received: from localhost (1490 bytes) by uncle.cult.cu via sendmail with P:stdio/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:39:44 -0400 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #4 built 1998-Sep-15) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:39:44 -0400 (CDT) From: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Some important environment variables. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG During my first (finally successfull) upgrade of my 2.2.6 system to 3.2 stable I encountered, due to my ignorance, problems arising from the lacking of the MACHINE_ARCH variable in my environment. I didn't know it should be set before firing make aout-to-elf-build, although I realize (of course) it should be set to i386 'cause I'm a PC user. But I wonder someone else could have the same problem on his/her fist upgrade, so I strongly beg and encourage all those worlderfull guy like Nick Clayton and An Douglas Barton to include this sort of thing in their respective upgrading tutorials, I mean, state the critical variables which have to be set previous to a make upgrade or the like. I must say the mergemaster script was (and will be) indeed very helpfull in this very stressing process of upgranding. Besides, I wonder if I could upgrade my production systems, currently running 2.2.5, mounting the build I've just made (and installed) via NFS. Comments will be very appreciated. ______________________________ Mr. Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez Net Manager & Sys Admin CEISIC. Ministry of Culture ______________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 27 13:54:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF541556C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:54:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) id GAA43844; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 06:51:20 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 06:51:19 +1000 From: John Birrell To: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Some important environment variables. Message-ID: <19990828065118.A36761@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez on Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 04:39:44PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 04:39:44PM -0400, Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote: > > During my first (finally successfull) upgrade of my 2.2.6 system to 3.2 > stable I encountered, due to my ignorance, problems arising from the > lacking of the MACHINE_ARCH variable in my environment. I didn't know it > should be set before firing make aout-to-elf-build, although I realize (of > course) it should be set to i386 'cause I'm a PC user. If MACHINE_ARCH is undefined, it means i386 (historically in FreeBSD). MACHINE_ARCH should never by the user. Please don't suggest to people that they do that. If there is a problem with the aout-to-elf-build barfing because MACHINE_ARCH is not set, then a different fix is required. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 27 15:44:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.svr.pol.co.uk (mail3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6FE15FA0 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:44:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ianjhart@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from modem-51.francium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.43.51] helo=bigfoot) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11KUhH-0006Ea-00; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:42:11 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bef0dc$c98bb440$332b883e@bigfoot> From: "ian j hart" To: "Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez" , "John Birrell" Cc: References: <19990828065118.A36761@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Some important environment variables. Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:32:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: John Birrell To: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez Cc: Sent: 27 August 1999 21:51 Subject: Re: Some important environment variables. > On Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 04:39:44PM -0400, Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote: > > > > During my first (finally successfull) upgrade of my 2.2.6 system to 3.2 > > stable I encountered, due to my ignorance, problems arising from the > > lacking of the MACHINE_ARCH variable in my environment. I didn't know it > > should be set before firing make aout-to-elf-build, although I realize (of > > course) it should be set to i386 'cause I'm a PC user. > > If MACHINE_ARCH is undefined, it means i386 (historically in FreeBSD). > MACHINE_ARCH should never by the user. Please don't suggest to people > that they do that. If there is a problem with the aout-to-elf-build > barfing because MACHINE_ARCH is not set, then a different fix is required. > > -- > John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ > CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 > I have to admit that I did exactly the same thing when I upgraded. Due to my lack of logging, I forgot to mention it. Here's part of ERG's original message. Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote. (1999 08 26). Re: [extract] ===> lib/libc "/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/Makefile.inc", line 32: Could not find /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/unknown/gen/Makefile.inc "/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/net/Makefile.inc", line 22: Could not find /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/unknown/net/Makefile.inc "/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/stdlib/Makefile.inc", line 23: Could not find /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/unknown/stdlib/Makefile.inc "/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/string/Makefile.inc", line 16: Could not find /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/unknown/string/Makefile.inc "/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/sys/Makefile.inc", line 16: Could not find /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/unknown/sys/Makefile.inc make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** Error code 1 Stop. [end of extract] I guessed that 'unknown' should be i386, and *fixed* /etc/make.conf so that it worked. I would be interested to know what the correct fix is. In any case someone needs to look at this PDQ. ian e-mail: ianjhart@x-stream.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 27 15:58:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peloton.runet.edu (peloton.runet.edu [137.45.96.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1C6155FD for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:58:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.runet.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06698; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:56:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:56:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Taylor To: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote: > You mean, you have performed upgrade on production systems without > dying of heart attack. I've just come from my first upgrade on my own > system, and after dealing with ldconfig -aout all my old binaries are > working, even X. I recommend using mergemaster, in the ports, to help merge the old /etc tree and the new one - it will fix all of the ldconfig problems if you can do that. > I see in the list there are people againts this procedure, I really > don't know what to decide, anyway I'll be able to reproduce my > original systems in case something goes wrong, cause I run the amanda > backup system so I've them on tape. Well, Jordan says not to and frankly he's probably right - I mean he wrote the upgrade procedure as I recall so ... Anyway, it worked for me, but may not work for you - you do have backups so that's good. Brett ***************************************************** Brett Taylor brett@peloton.runet.edu * Dept of Chem and Physics * Curie 39A (540) 831-6147 * ***************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 27 15:59:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3310C15FA4 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:59:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA44591; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:01:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:01:57 +1000 From: John Birrell To: ian j hart Cc: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez , John Birrell , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some important environment variables. Message-ID: <19990828090157.B36761@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> References: <19990828065118.A36761@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> <000201bef0dc$c98bb440$332b883e@bigfoot> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <000201bef0dc$c98bb440$332b883e@bigfoot>; from ian j hart on Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 11:32:22PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 11:32:22PM +0100, ian j hart wrote: > I have to admit that I did exactly the same thing when I upgraded. Due to my > lack of logging, I forgot to mention it. Here's part of ERG's original > message. > > Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote. (1999 08 26). > Re: > [extract] > ===> lib/libc > "/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/Makefile.inc", line 32: Could not find > /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/unknown/gen/Makefile.inc [...] > > I guessed that 'unknown' should be i386, and *fixed* /etc/make.conf so that > it worked. I would be interested to know what the correct fix is. In any > case someone needs to look at this PDQ. The bug is in `make'. "unknown" should be replaced by "i386" so that the behaviour is the same as when MACHINE_ARCH was not defined at all. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 2:22:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E20314DA7 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 02:22:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenry@hons.cs.usyd.edu.au) Subject: "top" broken To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:19:53 +1000 (EST) From: "Michael Henry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 457 Message-Id: <19990828092251.7E20314DA7@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I made world this afternoon with the latest -stable sources, and when I try to run "top" now I get: top: nlist failed "uname -a" output: FreeBSD playground.foonet 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Sat Aug 28 17:30:31 EST 1999 root@playground.foonet: /usr/src/sys/compile/PLAYGROUND i386 It looks like I found another one :) When I ran /sbin/dmesg to include the data in this mail I got: dmesg: namelist: msgbufp not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 2:40:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C84014EE6 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 02:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA71889; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:27:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31420; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:32:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:32:23 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Vince Vielhaber Cc: Doug , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps Message-ID: <19990827133223.A31015@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Vince Vielhaber on Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 08:32:32PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Vince, On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 08:32:32PM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > I offer to help make changes quite often. The last couple of times they > fell on deaf ears and I have much better things to occupy my time with > than chasing people around. Sorry about this. I try and make sure that any and all messages about the documentation that are sent to doc@freebsd.org are replied to, although some times it might take me a couple of weeks. It looks like some of yours might have fallen through the cracks. If you're still interested, I'd really appreciate a copy of your last message about this (or a pointer to it in the archives) so I can see what we can do to help out. Cheers, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 2:41:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB0714EBF for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 02:41:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA30562 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 02:38:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Interesting way to crash a 3.2-stable box... Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 02:38:54 -0700 Message-ID: <30558.935833134@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A user who may well have been smoking crack at the time but has nonetheless found an "interesting" bug sent me this procedure: Use this small perl script to create a file with 3000 spaces in it: #!/usr/bin/perl open FOO, ">foo.img" or die "can't open foo; $!\n"; for ($i=0;$i<3000;$i++){print FOO " ";} close FOO; [I'm sure there are easier ways, but since he already provided a script] Now vnconfig the foo.img file: # vnconfig -c /dev/vn0 foo.img Now attempt to disklabel it (again, I didn't say this made *sense* :) # disklabel -B -w /dev/vn0 minimum That isn't right, is it? :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 7:59:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3527314FB9 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 07:59:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA01140 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 07:59:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: green owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 07:59:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian F. Feldman" To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: HEADS UP! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Within the next day, to be in the tree in time for the feature freeze, most of my changes to IPFW in 4.0 will be committed to 3.2. IPFW's binary compatibility _will_ be broken, and it's a smart idea to make world and a new kernel both. __FreeBSD_version is going to be bumped up to 320002, and you'll probably also want to update your pidentd port afterwards (greatly simplified code; one part of these changes includes code to creat the net.inet.{tcp,udp}.getcred sysctls to get info onsocket credentials on a running system. This eliminates pidentd race conditions which previously could ocur in the kvm(3)-using code.) At the very least, please make sure to make a new kernel and modules, and make includes before recompiling/reinstalling src/sbin/ipfw/. -- Brian Fundakowski Feldman / "Any sufficiently advanced bug is \ green@FreeBSD.org | indistinguishable from a feature." | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! \ -- Rich Kulawiec / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 9:21:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2143155DB; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:21:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (root@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12252; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17651; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:45:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:45:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <199908281545.LAA17651@world.std.com> To: "Brian F. Feldman" Subject: Re: HEADS UP! Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 11:02:50 1999 >Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 07:59:12 -0700 (PDT) >From: "Brian F. Feldman" >Subject: HEADS UP! > >Within the next day, to be in the tree in time for the feature freeze, most >of my changes to IPFW in 4.0 will be committed to 3.2. >[...] > >__FreeBSD_version is going to be bumped up to 320002, and you'll probably >also want to update your pidentd port afterwards (greatly simplified Both the ftp archive and the CD-ports-versions of pidentd are 2.8.5. Do we need to fetch something else or is this just a reinstall/recompile? >[...] > >At the very least, please make sure to make a new kernel and modules, and >make includes before recompiling/reinstalling src/sbin/ipfw/. Doesn't "make [build]world" also do a "make includes?" (I think so, but just "trying to make sure..." :) -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 10:12:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0229615601 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA69090; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:12:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:12:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Interesting way to crash a 3.2-stable box... In-Reply-To: <30558.935833134@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > A user who may well have been smoking crack at the time but has > nonetheless found an "interesting" bug sent me this procedure: > > Use this small perl script to create a file with 3000 spaces in it: > > #!/usr/bin/perl > open FOO, ">foo.img" or die "can't open foo; $!\n"; > for ($i=0;$i<3000;$i++){print FOO " ";} > close FOO; > > [I'm sure there are easier ways, but since he already provided a script] > > Now vnconfig the foo.img file: > > # vnconfig -c /dev/vn0 foo.img > > Now attempt to disklabel it (again, I didn't say this made *sense* :) > > # disklabel -B -w /dev/vn0 minimum > > > > That isn't right, is it? :-) I've been building boot floppies on PicoBSD with recent -STABLEs with no problems, although PicoBSD zero-fills the file with dd instead of using spaces (0x20). This is known to not work on -current, though. Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 10:18:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E2C14E82 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:18:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA70834; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:18:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:18:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Alvin Jiang Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HP Netserver E60 In-Reply-To: <199908261639.AAA25911@copper.singnet.com.sg> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Alvin Jiang wrote: > Does anyone know if the HP D5013A NIC is supported? I seriously doubt it unless they're OEMing another part. HP makes their own crazy NICs and doesn't tell anyone how to program it. > In fact, I'm thinking of getting the entire HP E60 Netserver. > Can anyone share experiences with this machine? > > Everything appears to be supported in the compatibility list, > but I can't find any information on the card. I'm not sure which > chipset it uses but I'd have to be sure the card works before I > purchase the server. At worst, you can buy an Intel afterwards and scrap the HP NIC ;) Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 10:44:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.vcnet.com (mail.vcnet.com [209.239.239.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02D6155EE for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:44:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpr@vcnet.com) Received: from [209.239.239.22] by mail.vcnet.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-39954U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA21343 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:44:32 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:44:30 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Jon Rust Subject: no more periodic cron's Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since upgrading to 3.2Stable about 5 days ago, the daily/weekly cron jobs in /etc/periodic don't run. There's nothing in the logs about it. jon _____________________________________________________ |Jon Rust | VCNet, Inc |(805) 383-3500| |jpr@vcnet.com | | www.vcnet.com| |---------------------------------------------------| | I'm on a pilgrimage to see a moose. | | Praise Marty Moose! | |___________________________________________________| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 11:22:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from donhm.calcasieu.com (tcnet03-49.austin.texas.net [209.99.40.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B8F14CFC for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:22:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dread@texas.net) Received: from donhm.calcasieu.com (localhost.calcasieu.com [127.0.0.1]) by donhm.calcasieu.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06773; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:22:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dread@texas.net) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:22:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Read To: Jon Rust Subject: RE: no more periodic cron's Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 28-Aug-99 Jon Rust wrote: > Since upgrading to 3.2Stable about 5 days ago, the daily/weekly cron > jobs in /etc/periodic don't run. There's nothing in the logs about it. > cat /etc/crontab ? ps -ax | grep cron ? Regards, --- Don Read dread@calcasieu.com EDP Manager dread@texas.net Calcasieu Lumber Co. Austin TX -- But I'm in good company, sendmail has kicked a great many butts in the past To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 11:46:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6DA14C80; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:46:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA32970; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: green owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:44:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian F. Feldman" To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! In-Reply-To: <199908281545.LAA17651@world.std.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > >From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 11:02:50 1999 > >Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 07:59:12 -0700 (PDT) > >From: "Brian F. Feldman" > >Subject: HEADS UP! > > > >Within the next day, to be in the tree in time for the feature freeze, most > >of my changes to IPFW in 4.0 will be committed to 3.2. > >[...] > > > >__FreeBSD_version is going to be bumped up to 320002, and you'll probably > >also want to update your pidentd port afterwards (greatly simplified > > Both the ftp archive and the CD-ports-versions of pidentd are 2.8.5. > Do we need to fetch something else or is this just a reinstall/recompile? It will be a recompile/reinstall of the latest cvsupped ports. Right after I commit the changes to -STABLE, I'll commit the changes to the port which enable it to take advantage of the new -STABLE. pidentd should probably not break on the i386, since struct socket itself does not change size for the i386. On Alpha, struct socket's size changes. > > >[...] > > > >At the very least, please make sure to make a new kernel and modules, and > >make includes before recompiling/reinstalling src/sbin/ipfw/. > > Doesn't "make [build]world" also do a "make includes?" (I think > so, but just "trying to make sure..." :) That's right. That's not "at the very least" though :) > > -kc > -- Brian Fundakowski Feldman / "Any sufficiently advanced bug is \ green@FreeBSD.org | indistinguishable from a feature." | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! \ -- Rich Kulawiec / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 13:40:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9326714BFD for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:40:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA86450; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:39:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37C8491A.80FD3A8@gorean.org> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:39:54 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0826 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Henry Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "top" broken References: <19990828092251.7E20314DA7@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Henry wrote: > > Hi all, > > I made world this afternoon with the latest -stable sources, > and when I try to run "top" now I get: > > top: nlist failed This looks suspiciously like you made the world but didn't build a new kernel before rebooting. If so, take a look at the make world tutorial on the web page. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 19:23:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 00CA214D71 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:23:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenry@hons.cs.usyd.edu.au) Subject: Re: "top" broken To: Doug@gorean.org (Doug) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:20:08 +1000 (EST) From: "Michael Henry" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <37C8491A.80FD3A8@gorean.org> from "Doug" at Aug 28, 99 01:39:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 458 Message-Id: <19990829022310.00CA214D71@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I made world this afternoon with the latest -stable sources, > > and when I try to run "top" now I get: > > > > top: nlist failed > > This looks suspiciously like you made the world but didn't build a new > kernel before rebooting. If so, take a look at the make world tutorial on > the web page. I did make a new kernel. Actually, I made two new kernels - The generic one and my custom kernel. I get the same error under both kernels. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 19:23:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shattered.disturbed.net (shattered.disturbed.net [205.236.147.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E497614F51 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:23:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veers@disturbed.net) Received: from shattered.disturbed.net ([205.236.147.18]:60681 "EHLO shattered.disturbed.net") by disturbed.net with ESMTP id ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:20:12 -0400 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:20:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Perel To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Interesting way to crash a 3.2-stable box... In-Reply-To: <30558.935833134@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > #!/usr/bin/perl > open FOO, ">foo.img" or die "can't open foo; $!\n"; > for ($i=0;$i<3000;$i++){print FOO " ";} print FOO " " x 3000; > close FOO; Alex G. Perel -=- AP5081 veers@disturbed.net -=- veers@samurai.com Disturbed Networks - Powered exclusively by FreeBSD == The Power to Serve -=- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 20:29:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from binnacle.wantabe.com (binnacle.wantabe.com [209.16.8.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728D6150C5 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:29:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) Received: from localhost (jeffrl@localhost) by binnacle.wantabe.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA50762 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:28:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) X-Authentication-Warning: binnacle.wantabe.com: jeffrl owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:28:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeffrey J. Libman" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: re: dump to remote system aborting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi. i am running 3.1-release on a system, and just cvsup'd to bring it to 3.2-stable. before running the build world, i am attempting to back up to tape on a remote (old bsdi) system using dump. the first 3 file systems back up just fine, but the last, /dev/wd0s1f (/usr), aborts with the following: DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] DUMP: master/slave protocol botched. DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted. on examining the process list, there are still 5 dump processes running: 50676 p1 IN 0:00.92 /sbin/dump 0uBbf 2097152 1000 sail:/dev/nrst0 /dev/wd0s1f 50677 p1 IN 0:01.48 /sbin/dump 0uBbf 2097152 1000 sail:/dev/nrst0 /dev/wd0s1f 50678 p1 Z 0:00.00 (dump) 50679 p1 Z 0:00.00 (dump) 50680 p1 Z 0:00.00 (dump) can anybody tell me what master/slave protocol would be botched and how to get around or fix it? thanks in advance. cheers, jeff | |\ +------------------------------+ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 21:55:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B374A14CC9 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 21:55:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aw1@stade.co.uk) Received: from stade.demon.co.uk ([158.152.29.164]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Kwzz-000Njv-0A; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:55:23 +0000 Received: from titus.stade.co.uk (titus.stade.co.uk [192.168.1.5]) by stade.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA34572; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 05:46:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from aw1@titus.stade.co.uk) Received: (from aw1@localhost) by titus.stade.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA92052; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 05:43:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from aw1) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 05:43:39 +0100 From: Adrian Wontroba To: "Jeffrey J. Libman" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dump to remote system aborting Message-ID: <19990829054339.A90577@titus.stade.co.uk> Reply-To: aw1@stade.co.uk References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Jeffrey J. Libman on Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 10:28:44PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE Organization: Yes, I need some of that. X-Phone: +(44) 121 681 6677 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 10:28:44PM -0500, Jeffrey J. Libman wrote: > can anybody tell me what master/slave protocol would be botched and how to > get around or fix it? The protocol for communication between dump and its slave processes - it would appear that when dumping to tape dump forks off children which read the disc, write to tape, and talk to each other via IPC and signals. The chunk of code actually complaining is at line 770 in /usr/src/sbin/dump/tape.c, and it appears to be upset about something the child has said back to it. I'd suggest that you check the you've not written too much data to the tape and filled it, had a tape error, etc. -- Adrian Wontroba To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 22:26:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (smtp11.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4762414D38 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:26:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com (ppp18338.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.18]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA21267; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:28:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id BAA56048; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:25:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:25:22 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Alex Perel Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Interesting way to crash a 3.2-stable box... Message-ID: <19990829012521.C55756@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> Reply-To: hoek@freebsd.org References: <30558.935833134@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Alex Perel on Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 10:20:11PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 10:20:11PM -0400, Alex Perel wrote: > > print FOO " " x 3000; b$ print bash: print: command not found The version I earlier sent Jordan in email works, though. :-) -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. [Oh? You wanted to know what version it was that I emailed... very well... ;-) `printf "%3000s" ' '`] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 28 23:48:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F7214EF3; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:48:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA00676; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: hoek@freebsd.org Cc: Alex Perel , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Interesting way to crash a 3.2-stable box... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:25:22 EDT." <19990829012521.C55756@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:45:35 -0700 Message-ID: <672.935909135@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Um, guys, the point of this discussion was NOT to figure out how to most constructively generate 3000 spaces. The POINT was to figure out why in the hell my example panics the system. :-) Just trying to get this discussion back on the right track. - Jordan > On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 10:20:11PM -0400, Alex Perel wrote: > > > > print FOO " " x 3000; > > b$ print > bash: print: command not found > > The version I earlier sent Jordan in email works, though. :-) > > > -- > This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. > > > [Oh? You wanted to know what version it was that I emailed... > very well... ;-) `printf "%3000s" ' '`] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message