From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 8:36:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub1.rjf.com (mailhub1.rjf.com [170.12.128.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BBD37B479; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 08:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [170.12.31.84] by mailhub1.rjf.com with ESMTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:34:31 -0400 Received: by exmta2.rjf.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:36:19 -0400 Message-Id: <6D5097D4B56AD31190D50008C7B1579BC97C7D@exlan5.rjf.com> From: Ian Cartwright To: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" , "'wpaul@freebsd.org'" Subject: fxp Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:36:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I recently installed FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE on a new Compaq Deskpro EN. It has an Intel Etherexpress Pro 100 built into the motherboard (82559?). After compiling a new kernel (-STABLE, Oct. 12) for it, the NIC is detected. I do have one problem with the NIC though: I keep getting timeout errors. Sometimes the NIC comes back, sometimes I have to reboot... I have included output from dmesg. Any help would be appreciated... Ian Cartwright Senior Network Engineer Raymond James & Associates icartwright@it.rjf.com dmesg output follows: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE #0: Thu Oct 12 10:44:34 EDT 2000 root@ian.batcave.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/compaq.411 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (797.42-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x683 Stepping = 3 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 536870912 (524288K bytes) avail memory = 519147520 (506980K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0397000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 10 pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 fxp0: port 0x1000-0x103f mem 0x40000000-0x40000fff irq 5 at device 8.0 on pci2 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:50:8b:f7:83:c2 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x2460-0x246f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0x2440-0x245f irq 11 at device 31.4 on pci0 uhci0: (New UHCI DeviceId=0x24448086) usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x24448086) UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2445) at 31.5 irq 11 isa0: unexpected small tag 14 isa0: unexpected small tag 14 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/13 bytes threshold ppi0: on ppbus0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources ad0: 14324MB [29104/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA100 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using WDMA2 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a fxp0: device timeout To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 8:38:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.tripos.com (gatekeeper.tripos.com [192.160.145.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F8237B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 08:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tripos.com (8.8.8+Sun) id KAA26797 for <@firewall.tripos.com:freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG>; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:38:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from unknown(172.20.5.15) by gatekeeper.tripos.com via smap (V5.5) id xma026247; Mon, 23 Oct 00 10:37:30 -0500 Received: from tripos.com ([172.20.152.158]) by tripos.com (980919.SGI.STAND) via ESMTP id KAA22042 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:36:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <39F45AE4.ED8E4530@tripos.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:36:04 +0100 From: Steve Coles X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Promise Ultra-ATA100 vs FastTrak 100 Speeds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have both of these Promise controllers. There has been a lot of press that these are the same cards, and I seem to remember that FreeBSD treats the FastTrak as just an IDE controller, so can anyone enlighten me on the vast speed differential between the two: Approx. Methodology ------------------- I attach 2 similar IBM 20Gb ATA 100 disks to each in turn, with appropriate cables, make a ccd stripe on the whole disk area and test the speed with dd at various block sizes / stripe sizes / FastTrak BIOS configuration. For all tests the transfer size was about 2Gb at the beggining of the disk, source / destinations = /dev/null or /dev/zero. Summarised Results ------------------ 1) One drive alone (no ccd) reads and writes at 30 Mb/Sec 2) Ultra 100 reads and writes at 29 MB/sec 3) FastTrak 100 writes at 50 MB/sec, reads at 48 MB/sec These results, within experimental error, are irrespective of: 1) Drive / IDE channel assigment - ie 2 cables Master+Master v. 1 cable Master+Slave 2) FastTrak BIOS configuration (FreeBSD just sees the plain drives) Questions --------- 1) Why is the Ultra so slow ( constructive answers only please :) ? 2) If I add another drive to the FastTrak will I see a similar (75% approx) performance increase ? 3) Does the FastTrak BIOS do anything ? Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 11:23:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from clyde.goodleaf.net (piscator.seanet.com [199.181.165.218]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A396F37B479; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by clyde.goodleaf.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7EAB15BA9; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:21:38 -0700 (PDT) From: john@goodleaf.net To: hardware@freebsd.org Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: OT-DDR hardware? Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:21:38 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20001023182138.7EAB15BA9@clyde.goodleaf.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm getting interested in the x86 again. The new Micron DDR RAM chipset is looking kind of cool, and since I'm seeing prices for DDR that are hardly higher than for conventional SDRAM, I might indulge in such as system. How's FreeBSD looking with regard to the this new memory standard (if I may use the word)? Thx, John PS Not on the hardware list; please cc me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 13:49:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-176-145.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD56537B479; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9NKrGh04777; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:53:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200010232053.e9NKrGh04777@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: john@goodleaf.net Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT-DDR hardware? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:21:38 GMT." <20001023182138.7EAB15BA9@clyde.goodleaf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:53:16 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I'm getting interested in the x86 again. The new Micron DDR RAM chipset is > looking kind of cool, and since I'm seeing prices for DDR that are hardly > higher than for conventional SDRAM, I might indulge in such as system. > > How's FreeBSD looking with regard to the this new memory standard (if I may > use the word)? Why would FreeBSD care? It's just memory. 8) Seriously; there's less than no chance that a new memory standard would require any software support with the market the way it is. Legacy compatibility is *everything*. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 14:25:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from herbelot.dyndns.org (s014.dhcp212-24.cybercable.fr [212.198.24.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D8037B479; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cybercable.fr (multi.herbelot.nom [192.168.1.2]) by herbelot.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA13528; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:25:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from herbelot@cybercable.fr) Message-ID: <39F4ACC0.2AF73129@cybercable.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:25:20 +0200 From: Thierry Herbelot X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith Cc: john@goodleaf.net, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OT-DDR hardware? References: <200010232053.e9NKrGh04777@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > I'm getting interested in the x86 again. The new Micron DDR RAM chipset is > > looking kind of cool, and since I'm seeing prices for DDR that are hardly > > higher than for conventional SDRAM, I might indulge in such as system. > > > > How's FreeBSD looking with regard to the this new memory standard (if I may > > use the word)? > > Why would FreeBSD care? It's just memory. 8) > > Seriously; there's less than no chance that a new memory standard would > require any software support with the market the way it is. Legacy > compatibility is *everything*. > drifting one little more from the original topic : Does someone in the FreeBSD project have any information about the "just about to arrive" new SMP chipset from AMD ? (760MP IIRC) I'm quite satisfied with a lowly BP6, but I'd like to get another gadget and I would prefer not sending any money to Intel. Cheers TfH -- Thierry Herbelot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 14:53:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from web10306.mail.yahoo.com (web10306.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DC9137B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20001023215316.32923.qmail@web10306.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.165.147.151] by web10306.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:53:16 NZDT Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:53:16 +1300 (NZDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graham=20Guttocks?= Subject: CD-RW: SCSI or EIDE/ATAPI? To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, I'm trying to decide whether the CD-RW drive I buy for my FreeBSD system should be SCSI or EIDE. The Plextor PlexWriter 12/10/32 CD-RW comes in both varieties, with the SCSI costing about $100USD more. Are there any discernible benefits to SCSI CD-RW drives? Any reasons why I shouldn't get the EIDE/ATAPI CD-RW drive? Regards, Graham _____________________________________________________________________________ http://clubs.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Clubs - Join a club or build your own! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 15: 4: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ancmail1.state.ak.us (ancmail1.state.ak.us [146.63.92.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE70137B4CF for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dnr.state.ak.us ([146.63.110.47]) by ancmail1.state.ak.us (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G2WLAQ00.EI0; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:04:02 -0800 Message-ID: <39F4B611.4BF1F600@dnr.state.ak.us> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:05:05 -0800 From: Brian Raynes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graham Guttocks , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD-RW: SCSI or EIDE/ATAPI? References: <20001023215316.32923.qmail@web10306.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Graham Guttocks wrote: > > Greetings, > > I'm trying to decide whether the CD-RW drive I buy for my FreeBSD system > should be SCSI or EIDE. The Plextor PlexWriter 12/10/32 CD-RW comes in > both varieties, with the SCSI costing about $100USD more. > > Are there any discernible benefits to SCSI CD-RW drives? Any reasons why > I shouldn't get the EIDE/ATAPI CD-RW drive? If you have a SCSI hard drive, then writing from the HD to the CD-RW is faster. It's my understanding, as I don't have SCSI anything, that the SCSI controller allows for a direct write from one SCSI device to another without the main CPU getting involved. This was not the case with EIDE, the last I knew. There have been a lot of improvements to EIDE drives to improve speed and so I do not know if this advantage is still significant. > > Regards, > Graham > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > http://clubs.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Clubs > - Join a club or build your own! > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message Brian Raynes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 16:50:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-176-145.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AE137B4D7 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9NNrfh05351; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200010232353.e9NNrfh05351@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Thierry Herbelot Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: AMD SMP (was Re: OT-DDR hardware? ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:25:20 +0200." <39F4ACC0.2AF73129@cybercable.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:53:41 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Does someone in the FreeBSD project have any information about the "just > about to arrive" new SMP chipset from AMD ? (760MP IIRC) Not AFAIK. > I'm quite satisfied with a lowly BP6, but I'd like to get another gadget > and I would prefer not sending any money to Intel. AMD have promised us hardware and documentation when they're available. I don't know of anything more than that. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 17:29:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AA637B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.com ([24.12.186.185]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001024002928.WHSG2380.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:29:28 -0700 Message-ID: <39F4D828.B13E3C64@home.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:30:32 -0700 From: Rob X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Raynes Cc: Graham Guttocks , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-RW: SCSI or EIDE/ATAPI? References: <20001023215316.32923.qmail@web10306.mail.yahoo.com> <39F4B611.4BF1F600@dnr.state.ak.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As far as I know, there are no spiffy GUI front ends to burncd. Cdrecord has many. Rob. Brian Raynes wrote: > > Graham Guttocks wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > I'm trying to decide whether the CD-RW drive I buy for my FreeBSD system > > should be SCSI or EIDE. The Plextor PlexWriter 12/10/32 CD-RW comes in > > both varieties, with the SCSI costing about $100USD more. > > > > Are there any discernible benefits to SCSI CD-RW drives? Any reasons why > > I shouldn't get the EIDE/ATAPI CD-RW drive? > > If you have a SCSI hard drive, then writing from the HD to the CD-RW > is faster. It's my understanding, as I don't have SCSI anything, that > the SCSI controller allows for a direct write from one SCSI device to > another without the main CPU getting involved. This was not the case > with EIDE, the last I knew. There have been a lot of improvements to > EIDE drives to improve speed and so I do not know if this advantage is > still significant. > > > > > Regards, > > Graham > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > http://clubs.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Clubs > > - Join a club or build your own! > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > Brian Raynes > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 17:37:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (paprika.michvhf.com [209.103.136.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA3D337B4D7 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9667 invoked by uid 1001); 24 Oct 2000 00:37:38 -0000 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:37:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Vielhaber To: Rob Cc: Brian Raynes , Graham Guttocks , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-RW: SCSI or EIDE/ATAPI? In-Reply-To: <39F4D828.B13E3C64@home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Rob wrote: > As far as I know, there are no spiffy GUI front ends to burncd. > Cdrecord has many. gcombust it's in the ports. Vince. > > Rob. > > Brian Raynes wrote: > > > > Graham Guttocks wrote: > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > I'm trying to decide whether the CD-RW drive I buy for my FreeBSD system > > > should be SCSI or EIDE. The Plextor PlexWriter 12/10/32 CD-RW comes in > > > both varieties, with the SCSI costing about $100USD more. > > > > > > Are there any discernible benefits to SCSI CD-RW drives? Any reasons why > > > I shouldn't get the EIDE/ATAPI CD-RW drive? > > > > If you have a SCSI hard drive, then writing from the HD to the CD-RW > > is faster. It's my understanding, as I don't have SCSI anything, that > > the SCSI controller allows for a direct write from one SCSI device to > > another without the main CPU getting involved. This was not the case > > with EIDE, the last I knew. There have been a lot of improvements to > > EIDE drives to improve speed and so I do not know if this advantage is > > still significant. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Graham > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > > http://clubs.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Clubs > > > - Join a club or build your own! > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > > > Brian Raynes > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 128K ISDN from $22.00/mo - 56K Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ========================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 17:40:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-176-145.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D1537B4CF for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9O0hth05573; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:43:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200010240043.e9O0hth05573@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Chris Cook Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, pwilson@tcworks.com, Cameron Slye Subject: Re: Intel srcu21 RAID controller In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 18 Oct 2000 18:51:33 CDT." <39EE3785.CE3031AC@tcworks.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:43:55 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Can anyone tell me what RAID controller is recommended to be used with > Intel Server motherboards? I am looking at the srcu21 but do not know > if there is a driver for FreeBSD available. If you guys have any > suggestions, it would be most appreciated. Please 'cc me a copy of the > response as I am not on the list. Here is a link to that srcu21 > controller: The SRCU21 is not likely to be supported anytime soon. It's a pure I2O device, which we have no support for, and in addition we have major BIOS issues with it. I have all the contacts I need right now with the relevant product group, just not enough time to pursue them to best advantage yet. 8( -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 21: 8:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from web204.mail.yahoo.com (web204.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 562BC37B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15176 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Oct 2000 04:08:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20001024040832.15175.qmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.165.147.225] by web204.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:08:32 PDT Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:08:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Joey Garcia Subject: Problems with UW SCSI Seagate (Compaq) ST34371W and Tekram 390F SCSI Adapter To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all! I'm running FreeBSD 4.1.1 Release with a custom kernel (kernel config will be included at end of message, along with the dmesg output). I have a Tekram 390F Ultra Wide SCSI card and a Seagate (Compaq) ST34371W Ultra Wide hardrive. I have been having some troubles with this Adapter card/Hardrive combination. If I tax the hardrive pretty hard (untar a large file or do some other heavy I/O), I get all these weird CAM messages then it panics and does this syncing thing. I think I've heard some problem reports on the mailing lists with the Seagate SCSI drives (or were they IDE drives?) and I wanted to know if this drive is one of those screwed up drives. Or, is my Tekram 390F a peice of crap? This a a fresh install. The problems occur with either the Generic kernel or my custom kernel. It's hard to get you an actually listing of the error message. It doesn't seem to show up in /var/log/messages for some reason. Anyways, here's a listing of my demsg and my kernel config file to give you a clue to what hardware I have. I hope this information helps. I'd really like to give you the exact panic message, but then I'd have to reproduce the error which can screw up my other partitions because it panics. Thanks in advance for the help! Joey # dmesg output Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE #3: Sun Oct 22 18:31:34 PDT 2000 root@bsd.we.mediaone.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 400910909 Hz CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (400.91-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x58c Stepping = 12 Features=0x8021bf AMD Features=0x80000800 real memory = 134152192 (131008K bytes) avail memory = 126996480 (124020K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0395000. K6-family MTRR support enabled (2 registers) md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 9 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xb400-0xb40f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xb000-0xb01f irq 9 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcib2: at device 7.3 on pci0 fxp0: port 0xb800-0xb83f mem 0xea100000-0xea1fffff,0xea200000-0xea200fff irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:7b:eb:17 sym0: <875> port 0xbc00-0xbcff mem 0xea203000-0xea203fff,0xea202000-0xea2020ff irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0 sym0: Tekram NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, SE, parity checking fxp1: port 0xc000-0xc03f mem 0xea000000-0xea0fffff,0xea201000-0xea201fff irq 9 at device 11.0 on pci0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:90:27:7b:eb:74 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port pcm0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x530-0x537,0x388-0x38b,0x330-0x331,0x370-0x371 irq 5 drq 0,1 on isa0 IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging disabled ad0: 4120MB [8930/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO2 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4094MB (8386000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) ## MYKERNEL - couldn't think of a clever name # MYKERNEL - Simple workstation kernel config # # DATE - 10-22-2000 # # MACHINE - FIC PA2013 Mainboard # - AMD K62 400 MHz # - 128 MB Generic Ram # - Intel EtherExpress Pro 100/B (2) # - TekRam 390F Ultra Wide SCSI Adapter # - Seagte ST34371W 4.3 GB Ultra Wide SCSI Hardrive # - Maxtor 4.3 Gigabyte IDE Hardrive # - Hitachi 7730 IDE CDROM # - NEC Generice Floppy Disk Drive # - Genius SoundMaker PnP Soundcard (Yamaha OPL3-SAx chipset) # - ATI 3D Charger 8 MB AGP Video Adapter # # FUNCTION - Workstation, Porn Server and Network Gatewy for Windows machines. machine i386 cpu I586_CPU ident MYKERNEL maxusers 32 #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev # Bus Devices device isa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices # SCSI Controllers device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40 # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when # both sym and ncr are configured # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 # Video device device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer # PCI Ethernet NICs. device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. device miibus # MII bus support #device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes #device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 #device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') #device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 #device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) #device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device wb # Winbond W89C840F #device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse # USB Ethernet, requires mii device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet device cue # CATC USB ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet # Firewall support (using ipfw and natd) options IPFIREWALL options IPDIVERT # Sound Support - Genius SoundMaker Soundcard (Yamaha OPL3-SAx chipset) device pcm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 23: 2:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B535F37B479; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10429; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010240601.XAA10429@implode.root.com> To: Ian Cartwright Cc: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" , "'wpaul@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: fxp In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:36:18 EDT." <6D5097D4B56AD31190D50008C7B1579BC97C7D@exlan5.rjf.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:01:53 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Hello all, > >I recently installed FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE on a new Compaq Deskpro EN. It has >an Intel Etherexpress Pro 100 built into the motherboard (82559?). After >compiling a new kernel (-STABLE, Oct. 12) for it, the NIC is detected. I do >have one problem with the NIC though: I keep getting timeout errors. >Sometimes the NIC comes back, sometimes I have to reboot... > >I have included output from dmesg. Any help would be appreciated... This kind of sounds like there might be a cabling problem. Also, is this connected to a switch or a hub? Did it ever work reliably (with previous versions of FreeBSD)? BTW, freebsd-hardware is not the proper list to report problems. -DG David Greenman Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org President, TeraSolutions, Inc. - http://www.terasolutions.com Pave the road of life with opportunities. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 24 7:28:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from external1.dialogbank.com (external.dialogbank.com [195.239.16.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915DB37B4C5 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.dialogbank.com (panda.dialogbank.com [194.87.137.26]) by external1.dialogbank.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28683 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:27:45 +0400 Received: from SMTP ([194.87.137.43]) by mail.dialogbank.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id AAA145F for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:25:41 +0400 Received: from wolf.dialogbank.com ([192.168.15.11]) by 194.87.137.43 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:27:53 0000 (GMT) Received: from drb.com.ru by wolf.dialogbank.com (8.8.5) id RAA03706; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:27:42 +0300 (WST) Message-ID: <39F59D0E.2AA1F4C6@drb.com.ru> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:30:38 +0400 From: Dmitri Blinov Organization: DRB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FREEBSD-HARDWARE@FreeBSD.Org Subject: Does FreeBSD support NCR 53C700 (Microchannel) SCSI board? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 24 7:39:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from rasmus.uib.no (rasmus.uib.no [129.177.12.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB34237B4C5 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd-iclpii-hh-36.ifi.uib.no (rasmus.uib.no) [129.177.36.136] by rasmus.uib.no with esmtp (Exim 3.14) id 13o5Ei-0004Gj-00; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:39:32 +0200 Message-ID: <39F59F1C.A31756E8@rasmus.uib.no> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:39:24 +0200 From: Arild =?iso-8859-1?Q?Eiken=E6s?= Vengen Reply-To: ArildV@ifi.uib.no X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Promise Ultra-ATA100 vs FastTrak 100 Speeds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve Coles wrote: > There has been a lot of press that these are the same cards, and I > seem to remember that FreeBSD treats the FastTrak as just an IDE > controller, so can anyone enlighten me on the vast speed differential > between the two: > Summarised Results > ------------------ > 1) One drive alone (no ccd) reads and writes at 30 Mb/Sec > 2) Ultra 100 reads and writes at 29 MB/sec > 3) FastTrak 100 writes at 50 MB/sec, reads at 48 MB/sec > 1) Why is the Ultra so slow ( constructive answers only please :) ? The only thing I can think of is that the Ultra 100 isn`t utilizing the udma/100-channel, and falls back to udma/33, since both reads and writes are at 29MB/sec witch is just maxing out the udma/33-standard. When running my IBM 75GXP off of an udma/33-controller (BX-chipset) I never get more than 29MB/sec, never 31 or 32MB/sec. I seem to remember something about the udma/66-versions from Promise (both RAID and non-RAID) was the same card (with a different BIOS), but I thought the udma/100-versions had more differences. Arild. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 24 8:41:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from web10305.mail.yahoo.com (web10305.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20ECA37B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20001024153845.11781.qmail@web10305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.165.147.151] by web10305.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 04:38:45 NZDT Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 04:38:45 +1300 (NZDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graham=20Guttocks?= Subject: Re: CD-RW: SCSI or EIDE/ATAPI? To: Vince Vielhaber Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > As far as I know, there are no spiffy GUI front ends to burncd. > > Cdrecord has many. > > gcombust it's in the ports. Are you sure gcombust supports burncd? There is no mention of it on gcombust's webpage "gcombust is a gui for mkisofs/mkhybrid/cdda2wav/cdrecord/cdlabelgen." Regards, Graham _____________________________________________________________________________ http://clubs.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Clubs - Join a club or build your own! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 24 9: 5:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (paprika.michvhf.com [209.103.136.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E2C437B4C5 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12288 invoked by uid 1001); 24 Oct 2000 16:05:30 -0000 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:05:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Vielhaber To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graham=20Guttocks?= Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-RW: SCSI or EIDE/ATAPI? In-Reply-To: <20001024153845.11781.qmail@web10305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, [iso-8859-1] Graham Guttocks wrote: > Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > > > As far as I know, there are no spiffy GUI front ends to burncd. > > > Cdrecord has many. > > > > gcombust it's in the ports. > > Are you sure gcombust supports burncd? There is no mention of it on > gcombust's webpage Guess not. Thought it did. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 128K ISDN from $22.00/mo - 56K Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ========================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 24 10: 2:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DABAC37B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09241; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:02:25 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:59:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Dmitri Blinov Cc: FREEBSD-HARDWARE@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD support NCR 53C700 (Microchannel) SCSI board? In-Reply-To: <39F59D0E.2AA1F4C6@drb.com.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't believe so. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 24 15:31:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sumamail.com (ono.sumamail.com [207.38.123.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A02A37B479; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.21.55.55] (HELO MRZcx904008a) by sumamail.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4b2) with SMTP id 220662; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:31:23 -0700 Message-ID: <020801c03e0a$1efc4c20$8f16160a@MRZcx904008a> From: "matthew zeier" To: , Subject: mylex raid controller - drive resets == bad ? Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:31:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've started seeing these errors a couple times during the day. Since the machine keeps running, I can't tell if this is a "serious" issue or what. Both disks see, to get reset (but always 0:0 first). Thanks. rose# uname -a FreeBSD rose.appereto.com 4.1.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Oct 12 15:30:57 PDT 2000 root@rose.appereto.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/APPERETO-IPF1 i386 Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:0 reset Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:0 reset Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:0 error log: sense = 6 asc = 29 asq = 2 Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:0 error log: sense = 6 asc = 29 asq = 2 Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: info 00:00:00:00 csi 00:00:00:00 Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: info 00:00:00:00 csi 00:00:00:00 Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:1 reset Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:1 reset Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:1 error log: sense = 6 asc = 29 asq = 2 Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:1 error log: sense = 6 asc = 29 asq = 2 Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: info 00:00:00:00 csi 00:00:00:00 Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: info 00:00:00:00 csi 00:00:00:00 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 24 15:41:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-176-145.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2034B37B4C5; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9OMjWh02547; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:45:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200010242245.e9OMjWh02547@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "matthew zeier" Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mylex raid controller - drive resets == bad ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:31:14 PDT." <020801c03e0a$1efc4c20$8f16160a@MRZcx904008a> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:45:32 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I've started seeing these errors a couple times during the day. Since the > machine keeps running, I can't tell if this is a "serious" issue or what. > Both disks see, to get reset (but always 0:0 first). The controller will reset all the disks if it gets a SCSI error of any sort. Since it's not logging the error, it recovered OK. You should keep an eye on the disks, but it's probably just marginal cabling/ termination. > Thanks. > > rose# uname -a > FreeBSD rose.appereto.com 4.1.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Oct 12 > 15:30:57 PDT 2000 > root@rose.appereto.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/APPERETO-IPF1 i386 > > Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:0 reset > Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:0 reset > Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:0 error log: sense = 6 > asc = 29 asq = 2 > Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:0 error log: sense = 6 > asc = 29 asq = 2 > Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: info 00:00:00:00 csi 00:00:00:00 > Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: info 00:00:00:00 csi 00:00:00:00 > Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:1 reset > Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:1 reset > Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:1 error log: sense = 6 > asc = 29 asq = 2 > Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: physical drive 0:1 error log: sense = 6 > asc = 29 asq = 2 > Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: info 00:00:00:00 csi 00:00:00:00 > Oct 24 08:20:23 rose /kernel: mlx0: info 00:00:00:00 csi 00:00:00:00 > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 24 17:27:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB86D37B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.com ([24.12.186.185]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001025002551.QSXB26316.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:25:51 -0700 Message-ID: <39F6290C.322EEF84@home.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:27:56 -0700 From: Rob X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vince Vielhaber Cc: Brian Raynes , Graham Guttocks , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-RW: SCSI or EIDE/ATAPI? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks, I'll try it out. Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Rob wrote: > > > As far as I know, there are no spiffy GUI front ends to burncd. > > Cdrecord has many. > > gcombust it's in the ports. > > Vince. > > > > > Rob. > > > > Brian Raynes wrote: > > > > > > Graham Guttocks wrote: > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > I'm trying to decide whether the CD-RW drive I buy for my FreeBSD system > > > > should be SCSI or EIDE. The Plextor PlexWriter 12/10/32 CD-RW comes in > > > > both varieties, with the SCSI costing about $100USD more. > > > > > > > > Are there any discernible benefits to SCSI CD-RW drives? Any reasons why > > > > I shouldn't get the EIDE/ATAPI CD-RW drive? > > > > > > If you have a SCSI hard drive, then writing from the HD to the CD-RW > > > is faster. It's my understanding, as I don't have SCSI anything, that > > > the SCSI controller allows for a direct write from one SCSI device to > > > another without the main CPU getting involved. This was not the case > > > with EIDE, the last I knew. There have been a lot of improvements to > > > EIDE drives to improve speed and so I do not know if this advantage is > > > still significant. > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Graham > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > > > http://clubs.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Clubs > > > > - Join a club or build your own! > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > > > > > Brian Raynes > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > > > -- > ========================================================================== > Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net > 128K ISDN from $22.00/mo - 56K Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking > Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com > Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com > ========================================================================== > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 24 17:29:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C030D37B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.com ([24.12.186.185]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001025002820.QWJS26316.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:28:20 -0700 Message-ID: <39F629A2.2E96EA67@home.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:30:26 -0700 From: Rob X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vince Vielhaber Cc: Graham Guttocks , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-RW: SCSI or EIDE/ATAPI? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I guess I won't try it out :) I wonder if a simple wrapper could be written around burncd so that other programs think it is cdrecord? Rob. Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, [iso-8859-1] Graham Guttocks wrote: > > > Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > > > > > As far as I know, there are no spiffy GUI front ends to burncd. > > > > Cdrecord has many. > > > > > > gcombust it's in the ports. > > > > Are you sure gcombust supports burncd? There is no mention of it on > > gcombust's webpage > > Guess not. Thought it did. > > Vince. > -- > ========================================================================== > Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net > 128K ISDN from $22.00/mo - 56K Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking > Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com > Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com > ========================================================================== > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 24 20: 7:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from web216.mail.yahoo.com (web216.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31B4237B4C5 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17709 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Oct 2000 03:07:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20001025030734.17708.qmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.165.147.225] by web216.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:07:34 PDT Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:07:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Joey Garcia Subject: Tekram 390F and sym0 Error messages - what do these messages mean? To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings!! I have FreeBSD 4.1.1 installed with a Tekram 390F SCSI card and a Compaq (Seagate) ST34371W hardrive. I had posted a message on the list before about some problems. Since then I have updated the BIOS on the SCSI card. I did the ran the same I/O intensive application (untar the ports tree - port.tar.gz) and instead of it panicing (spelling?) it gave some error messages and went on. What do these messages mean? Is there something wrong with my hardware/software configuration? Could it be the hardrive? I hear so many wonderfull things about the Tekram 390F that I am convinced it couldn't be the card. The messages are listed below. Oct 24 20:00:00 bsd newsyslog[299]: logfile turned over Oct 24 20:01:28 bsd login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv1 Oct 24 20:03:00 bsd /kernel: sym0:0: ERROR (81:0) (e-ae-0) (f/9d) @ (scripta 90:1e000000). Oct 24 20:03:00 bsd /kernel: sym0: script cmd = 82030000 Oct 24 20:03:00 bsd /kernel: sym0: regdump: da 10 80 9d 47 0f 00 0f 00 0e 80 ae 80 00 06 08 00 66 ff 05 2a ff ff ff. Oct 24 20:03:00 bsd /kernel: (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset detected. Oct 24 20:03:21 bsd /kernel: sym0:0: message c sent on bad reselection. Thank you for all the help! Joey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 24 20:24:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from web218.mail.yahoo.com (web218.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 657D137B4C5 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20001025032409.72980.qmail@web218.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.165.147.225] by web218.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:24:09 PDT Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:24:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Joey Garcia Subject: sym0 error messages (and kernel panic) - what do these messages mean? To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings! Seems like I spoke too soon. After retrying the same I/O test (untaring the ports.tar.gz) to make sure everything was okay, it gave me a kernel panic. Here is the exact panic message. What could it mean? How can I fix it? panic: assertion "i && sym_get_cam_status(cp->cam_ccb) == CAM_REQUEUE_REQ" failed: file "../../dev/sym/sym_hipd.c", line 5208 --- Joey Garcia wrote: > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:07:34 -0700 (PDT) > From: Joey Garcia > Subject: Tekram 390F and sym0 Error messages - what > do these messages mean? > To: questions@freebsd.org > > Greetings!! > > I have FreeBSD 4.1.1 installed with a Tekram 390F > SCSI > card and a Compaq (Seagate) ST34371W hardrive. I > had > posted a message on the list before about some > problems. Since then I have updated the BIOS on the > SCSI card. I did the ran the same I/O intensive > application (untar the ports tree - port.tar.gz) and > instead of it panicing (spelling?) it gave some > error > messages and went on. > > What do these messages mean? Is there something > wrong > with my hardware/software configuration? Could it > be > the hardrive? I hear so many wonderfull things > about > the Tekram 390F that I am convinced it couldn't be > the > card. > > The messages are listed below. > Oct 24 20:00:00 bsd newsyslog[299]: logfile turned > over > Oct 24 20:01:28 bsd login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON > ttyv1 > Oct 24 20:03:00 bsd /kernel: sym0:0: ERROR (81:0) > (e-ae-0) (f/9d) @ (scripta 90:1e000000). > Oct 24 20:03:00 bsd /kernel: sym0: script cmd = > 82030000 > Oct 24 20:03:00 bsd /kernel: sym0: regdump: da 10 80 > 9d 47 0f 00 0f 00 0e 80 ae 80 00 06 08 00 66 ff 05 > 2a > ff ff ff. > Oct 24 20:03:00 bsd /kernel: > (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): > SCSI BUS reset detected. > Oct 24 20:03:21 bsd /kernel: sym0:0: message c sent > on > bad reselection. > > > Thank you for all the help! > > > Joey > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 25 7:32:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mtu.ru (ns.mtu.ru [195.34.32.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9015F37B4C5; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:32:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Recipient: bsd_usr@yahoo.com Received: from srv4.any (ppp101-8.dialup.mtu-net.ru [212.188.101.8]) by mtu.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611AB74CE; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:32:00 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from avn@any.ru) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:33:24 +0400 From: "Alexey V.Neyman" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.39) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: "Alexey V.Neyman" Organization: ANY X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <0773.001025@any.ru> To: Joey Garcia Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sym0 error messages (and kernel panic) - what do these messages mean? In-reply-To: <20001025032409.72980.qmail@web218.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20001025032409.72980.qmail@web218.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I got the same message for the same card (TEKRAM DC-390F) while compiling new kernel. JG> panic: assertion "i && sym_get_cam_status(cp->cam_ccb) JG> == CAM_REQUEUE_REQ" failed: file JG> "../../dev/sym/sym_hipd.c", line 5208 Seems that heavy disk load confuses SCSI. Also in my case this message was preceeded by the message "SCSI bus reset detected". Any clues? Alexey. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 25 7:47:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30AD037B4C5; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13431; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:45:42 -0700 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:45:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Alexey V.Neyman" Cc: Joey Garcia , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sym0 error messages (and kernel panic) - what do these messages mean? In-Reply-To: <0773.001025@any.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You asked in the right place (freebsd-scsi) already. I've forwarded the mail to the driver author- you'll have to wait for him to respond, or you could ask dircetly too. On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Alexey V.Neyman wrote: > Hello, > > I got the same message for the same card (TEKRAM DC-390F) > while compiling new kernel. > JG> panic: assertion "i && sym_get_cam_status(cp->cam_ccb) > JG> == CAM_REQUEUE_REQ" failed: file > JG> "../../dev/sym/sym_hipd.c", line 5208 > Seems that heavy disk load confuses SCSI. > Also in my case this message was preceeded by the message > "SCSI bus reset detected". > > Any clues? > Alexey. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 25 8:12:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from web10305.mail.yahoo.com (web10305.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1546837B4D7 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20001025151205.32400.qmail@web10305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.165.147.175] by web10305.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 04:12:04 NZDT Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 04:12:04 +1300 (NZDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graham=20Guttocks?= Subject: Re: CD-RW: SCSI or EIDE/ATAPI? To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rob wrote: > As far as I know, there are no spiffy GUI front ends to burncd. > Cdrecord has many. Availability of cdrecord is a good enough reason for me to pay the extra $$ and go SCSI. Thanks for the comments all. Cheers, Graham _____________________________________________________________________________ http://clubs.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Clubs - Join a club or build your own! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 25 13:46:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mr2.ipartners.pl (mr2.ipartners.pl [157.25.5.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE29C37B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from k2 ([195.94.212.230]) by mr2.ipartners.pl (8.9.3/8.9.1/MR1.0) with ESMTP id WAA12552 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 22:46:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pawel.zakiewicz@wielkopolska.com) Received: from 100.100.100.90 by k2 ([100.100.100.90] running VPOP3) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 22:42:01 +0200 Message-ID: <39F74599.B2748DFA@wielkopolska.com> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 22:42:01 +0200 From: "Pawel St. Zakiewicz" Organization: nct.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: pl,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: HP Netserver E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: VPOP3 V1.3.0c - Registered to: Wielkopolska Poznan Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Is it possible to install and run FreeBSD 4.x on HP Netserver E60? Pawel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 25 13:56:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 95E2A37B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115449>; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:56:21 +1000 Content-return: prohibited Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:56:19 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Multiple PCI busses? In-reply-to: ; from dmiller@search.sparks.net on Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 08:08:22AM -0400 To: David Miller Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-followup-to: David Miller , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-Id: <00Oct26.075621est.115449@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Catching up on old mail] On 2000-Sep-23 08:08:22 -0400, David Miller wrote: >Anyone have any idea what the upper end of thruput is? I'm sure a few >thousand packets per second is doable, but how abot the tens of >thousands? Last February I did some experimenting using a P-133 box and could route just over 10,000 (small) packets/sec (CPU limited) between different LANs. The throughput testing gave me pretty much wire speed[1]. This was using a couple of Intel Pro/100+ cards connecting to 100baseTX half-duplex hubs. Based on this, I'd say you'd be looking at hundreds of thousands of packets/sec on a high-end processor. Your overall throughput would come down to bus bandwidth (PCI and RAM). > Is this an area where a big cache on a >xeon processor would help more than extra CPU cycles? As long as routing code, device driver code and your routing tables fit into the cache, you should be OK. Cache is pretty much irrelevant to the actual packets you are routing - the CPU only needs to read the destination IP address out of the header once for each packet (and do a few mbuf management accesses). It primarily just gets in the way of the PCI DMA :-). [1] Given a decent NIC, the CPU load is pretty much determined by the packet rate, independent of the packet size. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 25 14: 7: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from search.sparks.net (search.sparks.net [208.5.188.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B202F37B4C5 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by search.sparks.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 2EA45DC74; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by search.sparks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9F8DC73; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:59:55 -0400 (EDT) From: David Miller To: Peter Jeremy Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multiple PCI busses? In-Reply-To: <00Oct26.075621est.115449@border.alcanet.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > [Catching up on old mail] > On 2000-Sep-23 08:08:22 -0400, David Miller wrote: > >Anyone have any idea what the upper end of thruput is? I'm sure a few > >thousand packets per second is doable, but how abot the tens of > >thousands? > > Last February I did some experimenting using a P-133 box and could > route just over 10,000 (small) packets/sec (CPU limited) between > different LANs. The throughput testing gave me pretty much wire > speed[1]. This was using a couple of Intel Pro/100+ cards connecting > to 100baseTX half-duplex hubs. Based on this, I'd say you'd be > looking at hundreds of thousands of packets/sec on a high-end > processor. Your overall throughput would come down to bus bandwidth > (PCI and RAM). > > > Is this an area where a big cache on a > >xeon processor would help more than extra CPU cycles? > > As long as routing code, device driver code and your routing tables > fit into the cache, you should be OK. Cache is pretty much irrelevant That won't work, full 'net BGP tables aren't going to fit into the cache:) > to the actual packets you are routing - the CPU only needs to read the > destination IP address out of the header once for each packet (and do > a few mbuf management accesses). It primarily just gets in the way > of the PCI DMA :-). > > [1] Given a decent NIC, the CPU load is pretty much determined by the > packet rate, independent of the packet size. I'd plan on using the adaptec 64 bit quad port cards on independent 64 bit busses, and having the main memory interleaved by using for dimms instead of one or two. I guess what I was wondering was if the packet would be DMA'd into cache and could avoid a trip to the sdram, but it sounds like the answer is no. Since the routing tables won't fit either it sounds like there's no real value to a big cache. Thanks for the feedback! --- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 25 22:27:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0742937B4C5 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 22:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA96245; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 01:27:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 01:27:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Dmitri Blinov Cc: FREEBSD-HARDWARE@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD support NCR 53C700 (Microchannel) SCSI board? In-Reply-To: <39F59D0E.2AA1F4C6@drb.com.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Heh... If you can get the SYM or NCR drivers to support the 53c700/710/720 boards I'll write the MCA front end for it (and EISA boards too.) -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 0:35:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from kythorn2.upper.ul.warwick.net (kythorn2.upper.ul.warwick.net [208.228.96.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB04237B479 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chaos (kythorn.upper.ul.warwick.net [208.228.96.34]) by kythorn2.upper.ul.warwick.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e9Q7a6F54239 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 03:36:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kythorn@scorched.com) Message-ID: <000901c03f1f$99034bc0$2260e4d0@chaos> From: "Jay Oliver" To: Subject: Diamondmax Drives Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 03:37:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm curious, are the 80 gig IDE diamondmax drives (98196H8) supported under FreeBSD? I'm rather out of touch, but until somewhere along 4.0-STABLE, I had difficulty getting the 40 gig model working properly. - Jay Oliver To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 1:26:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.tripos.com (gatekeeper.tripos.com [192.160.145.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B5537B479 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 01:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tripos.com (8.8.8+Sun) id DAA13584; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 03:26:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from unknown(172.20.5.15) by gatekeeper.tripos.com via smap (V5.5) id xma013560; Thu, 26 Oct 00 03:25:53 -0500 Received: from tripos.com ([172.20.152.158]) by tripos.com (980919.SGI.STAND) via ESMTP id DAA34604; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 03:25:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <39F7EA6E.A4FCEE20@tripos.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:25:18 +0100 From: Steve Coles X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ArildV@ifi.uib.no Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Promise Ultra-ATA100 vs FastTrak 100 Speeds References: <39F59F1C.A31756E8@rasmus.uib.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by elara.tripos.com id DAA34604 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for the reply, this would account for the fact that no matter how = I configure the drives on the Ultra-100, the speed is always the same withi= n the scope of the test ( bonnie results on a UFS for the tests were always the same from one disk combination to another - only slower ). Of course, I forgot to mention there was one other variation between the tests - the controllers were tested in different MOBOs. Ultra in a cheap PCChips MOBO K6-2@550, FastTrak was in a GigaByte, SIS 5591-based, K6-2@3= 50. So the noticably slower speeds were in the faster system with the Ultra-1= 00. The PCChips MOBO in the test has a SIS 5595/530 ATA controller that ~purports~ to be ATA/66, yet the FreeBSD code says it is only ATA/33. I think that this could be the cause ( the MOBO, not the FreeBSD ata code ) I have tried to run this MOBO controller at ATA/66 with the FastTrak unde= r NT there was horrific FS corruption on the FastTrak stripe when both copy= ing from a disk on the MOBO controller to the stripe on the FastTrak. Hence I swapped the FastTrak to the GigaByte MOBO out of paranoia. I shall check the ATA cabling, and try some other drives that will arrive soon. S=F8ren hinted in Stable yesterday that some IBM drives such as yours ( a= nd coincidentally mine are the same ) The only drives I can recommed are IBM's, but beware the new DTLA series are so fast that some old controllers can have problems with them. Steve Arild Eiken=E6s Vengen wrote: > Steve Coles wrote: > > > There has been a lot of press that these are the same cards, and I > > seem to remember that FreeBSD treats the FastTrak as just an IDE > > controller, so can anyone enlighten me on the vast speed differential > > between the two: > > > Summarised Results > > ------------------ > > 1) One drive alone (no ccd) reads and writes at 30 Mb/Sec > > 2) Ultra 100 reads and writes at 29 MB/sec > > 3) FastTrak 100 writes at 50 MB/sec, reads at 48 MB/sec > > > 1) Why is the Ultra so slow ( constructive answers only please :) ? > > The only thing I can think of is that the Ultra 100 isn`t utilizing the > udma/100-channel, and falls back to udma/33, since both reads and write= s > are at 29MB/sec witch is just maxing out the udma/33-standard. When > running my IBM 75GXP off of an udma/33-controller (BX-chipset) I never > get more than 29MB/sec, never 31 or 32MB/sec. > > I seem to remember something about the udma/66-versions from Promise > (both RAID and non-RAID) was the same card (with a different BIOS), but > I thought the udma/100-versions had more differences. > > Arild. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 2:39:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.snet.co.uk (atlas.snet.co.uk [212.87.76.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112E237B479 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 02:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by atlas.snet.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9Q9jpL14560 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:45:51 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Message-Id: <200010260945.e9Q9jpL14560@atlas.snet.co.uk> Subject: Adaptec AAA-131U2 RAID Controller To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:45:51 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: jamie@jamiesdomain.org.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL77 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have searched the website, LINT and tryed booting and probing for an Adaptec Ultra2 SCSI RAID card AAA-131U2 PCI. Does anyone know of any particular quirks for this device or have any pointers to documentation on this card and FreeBSD? I am using FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE I have also had successes in getting the Dialogic range of telephony hardware to work succesfully as well on FreeBSD if anyone is interested. Any help on the RAID card would be greatly appreciated!!! Regards, Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 8:50:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CF137B4C5 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.9.3/8.9.2/SNNS-1.02) id KAA26145; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:50:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <200010261550.KAA26145@aurora.sol.net> Subject: Re: Multiple PCI busses? To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:50:13 -0500 (CDT) Cc: peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au, dmiller@search.sparks.net In-Reply-To: <200010261534.KAA01516@earth.execpc.com> from "jgreco@execpc.com" at Oct 26, 2000 10:34:34 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Last February I did some experimenting using a P-133 box and could > > route just over 10,000 (small) packets/sec (CPU limited) between > > different LANs. The throughput testing gave me pretty much wire > > speed[1]. This was using a couple of Intel Pro/100+ cards connecting > > to 100baseTX half-duplex hubs. Based on this, I'd say you'd be > > looking at hundreds of thousands of packets/sec on a high-end > > processor. Your overall throughput would come down to bus bandwidth > > (PCI and RAM). I'm curious about this: since a "high-end" processor isn't really ten times faster than a P133, why do you believe that you'd be able to do hundred_s_ of thousands of packets per second? (I've done testing of this sort in the past, but don't happen to have the numbers handy) > > > Is this an area where a big cache on a > > >xeon processor would help more than extra CPU cycles? > > > > As long as routing code, device driver code and your routing tables > > fit into the cache, you should be OK. Cache is pretty much irrelevant > > That won't work, full 'net BGP tables aren't going to fit into the cache:) Why are you concerned about full 'net BGP tables? Are you really sending data to all ~90,000 advertised routes out there simultaneously? Or is it more likely that you're actively sending many packets to a few hundred? With an average routetbl entry of ~136 bytes, that's very likely to at least mostly make it into cache. A nice large cache should minimally make a very large dent in main memory thrashing. ... JG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 9: 4:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from search.sparks.net (search.sparks.net [208.5.188.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8032537B4C5 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by search.sparks.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 03357DC74; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by search.sparks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFC9DC73; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:57:37 -0400 (EDT) From: David Miller To: Joe Greco Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au Subject: Re: Multiple PCI busses? In-Reply-To: <200010261550.KAA26145@aurora.sol.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Joe Greco wrote: > > > > Is this an area where a big cache on a > > > >xeon processor would help more than extra CPU cycles? > > > > > > As long as routing code, device driver code and your routing tables > > > fit into the cache, you should be OK. Cache is pretty much irrelevant > > > > That won't work, full 'net BGP tables aren't going to fit into the cache:) > > Why are you concerned about full 'net BGP tables? Are you really sending > data to all ~90,000 advertised routes out there simultaneously? Or is it > more likely that you're actively sending many packets to a few hundred? The box in question is intended for application at a NAP, feeding some packets (Maybe a few thousand/sec) out for a local site. Chance are that over any small amount of time most of the packets heading through the box will be from a small set of networks. > With an average routetbl entry of ~136 bytes, that's very likely to at > least mostly make it into cache. A nice large cache should minimally > make a very large dent in main memory thrashing. You've probably got me here: I'd assume that the routing routines would have to do a tree search through the table to get the appropriate interface. Perhaps the significant nodes of the tree would be cached? Does freebsd support a route-cache like cisco? --- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 9:28:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1513037B4CF for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 96714 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Oct 2000 16:28:52 +0000 (GMT) To: jgreco@ns.sol.net Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au, dmiller@search.sparks.net Subject: Re: Multiple PCI busses? From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:50:13 -0500 (CDT)" References: <200010261550.KAA26145@aurora.sol.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:28:52 +0200 Message-ID: <96712.972577732@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Why are you concerned about full 'net BGP tables? Are you really sending > data to all ~90,000 advertised routes out there simultaneously? Or is it > more likely that you're actively sending many packets to a few hundred? If you are concerned with high-speed routing/forwarding lookups, and using the cache optimally, you may not want to use regular BSD routing. See Mikael Degermark, Andrej Brodnik, Svante Carlsson, Stephen Pink Small Forwarding Tables for Fast Routing Lookups Proceedings of the ACM SIGCOMM'97 Conference on Applications, Technologies, Architectures and Protocols for Computer Communications. (Student Paper Award). Cannes, France, September 16-18 1997. for a way of doing millions of forwarding lookups per second with a 200 Mhz PPpro. Available from http://www.cdt.luth.se/~micke/publications.html. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 10:14: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD89537B479; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.9.3/8.9.2/SNNS-1.02) id MAA32461; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:13:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <200010261713.MAA32461@aurora.sol.net> Subject: Optimized routing (was: Re: Multiple PCI busses?) To: sthaug@nethelp.no Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:13:50 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au, dmiller@search.sparks.net, freebsd-net@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <96712.972577732@verdi.nethelp.no> from "sthaug@nethelp.no" at Oct 26, 2000 06:28:52 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Why are you concerned about full 'net BGP tables? Are you really sending > > data to all ~90,000 advertised routes out there simultaneously? Or is it > > more likely that you're actively sending many packets to a few hundred? > > If you are concerned with high-speed routing/forwarding lookups, and using > the cache optimally, you may not want to use regular BSD routing. See > > Mikael Degermark, Andrej Brodnik, Svante Carlsson, Stephen Pink > Small Forwarding Tables for Fast Routing Lookups > Proceedings of the ACM SIGCOMM'97 Conference on Applications, Technologies, > Architectures and Protocols for Computer Communications. (Student Paper Award). > Cannes, France, September 16-18 1997. > > for a way of doing millions of forwarding lookups per second with a 200 > Mhz PPpro. Available from http://www.cdt.luth.se/~micke/publications.html. I'm waiting for somebody to actually implement this in FreeBSD. :-) With the advent of gigabit Ethernet and the prospect of another order-of- magnitude jump in the next few years, it seems like this would make a great class project for somebody - or for a professional project for some place involved in large scale servers with lots of routes. -- ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 10:35:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7EBA37B479 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.9.3/8.9.2/SNNS-1.02) id MAA34054; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:35:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <200010261735.MAA34054@aurora.sol.net> Subject: Re: Multiple PCI busses? To: dmiller@search.sparks.net (David Miller) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:35:12 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au In-Reply-To: from "David Miller" at Oct 26, 2000 11:57:37 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Why are you concerned about full 'net BGP tables? Are you really sending > > data to all ~90,000 advertised routes out there simultaneously? Or is it > > more likely that you're actively sending many packets to a few hundred? > > The box in question is intended for application at a NAP, feeding some > packets (Maybe a few thousand/sec) out for a local site. Chance are that > over any small amount of time most of the packets heading through the box > will be from a small set of networks. > > > With an average routetbl entry of ~136 bytes, that's very likely to at > > least mostly make it into cache. A nice large cache should minimally > > make a very large dent in main memory thrashing. > > You've probably got me here: I'd assume that the routing routines would > have to do a tree search through the table to get the appropriate > interface. Perhaps the significant nodes of the tree would be > cached? Does freebsd support a route-cache like cisco? I'm not sure a "route cache" is all that meaningful. It's sort of a bandaid fix for slow CPU, slow RAM, and poor algorithms. Anyways, for comparison sake, here's one of my FreeBSD BGP speakers. # netstat 60 input (Total) output packets errs bytes packets errs bytes colls 865576 3 509144121 863780 5 508110716 0 I pumped a little extra traffic through it :-) Due to the 79 IPFW rules that have to mostly be parsed for each packet (yes, 79), this causes the interrupt load to hit ~60% on the box. That's pretty respectable, IMO, 14426pps, 84 mbits/s. I do know for certain that if I remove the IPFW rules, this thing pumps it out much faster. The box itself is a K6-III-400, 128MB RAM, on an ASUS P/I-P55T2P4 3.1 512, which provides some additional cache in addition to the on-CPU cache. There's a tag ram of course, too. :-) # /usr/bin/time netstat -rn | wc -l 9.24 real 3.25 user 3.52 sys 93534 # ps agxuww | grep gated root 96691 0.1 37.4 65232 48000 p2- S 12Oct00 160:07.15 /usr/local/sbin/gated -N It's taking two IBGP sessions with other BGP speakers, and one BGP session to a peer. Things get lively when something flaps :-) Incidentally, the box has two 100mbps Ethernet interfaces, for connection into my redundant OSPF-based network at this data center, and an OC3c ATM connection, for WAN connections to other data centers, and for the BGP peer (ATM DS3). This is arguably a taxed setup. With over a third of the machine's memory "wired", I should probably have more like 192MB in it. But I'm cheap, and disk is cheap, and it doesn't matter as much to me if it takes a minute for routing to stabilize after a flap. -- ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 15: 3:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-176-145.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C23E37B4C5 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9QM6ih01322; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:06:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200010262206.e9QM6ih01322@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: jamie@jamiesdomain.org.uk Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAA-131U2 RAID Controller In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:45:51 BST." <200010260945.e9Q9jpL14560@atlas.snet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:06:44 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The 'AAA' family of adapters are not "RAID controllers", they are "checksum accelerator modules for software RAID", and they are not supported under FreeBSD (and will not be unless Adaptec release documentation). > I have searched the website, LINT and tryed booting and probing > for an Adaptec Ultra2 SCSI RAID card AAA-131U2 PCI. > > Does anyone know of any particular quirks for this device > or have any pointers to documentation on this card and FreeBSD? > > I am using FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE > > I have also had successes in getting the Dialogic range of > telephony hardware to work succesfully as well on FreeBSD if anyone > is interested. > > Any help on the RAID card would be greatly appreciated!!! > > > Regards, > Jamie > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 27 2:54:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D78A37B479; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 02:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9R9u6b03268; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:56:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:56:06 +0200 (CEST) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: STRAY IRQ's message what does it means? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello. We have a server attached to two parallel printers, both HP LaserJets, one colour type. The colour laser is attached to the on board parallel port, the second b/w laser is attached to a second parallel port card on ISA bus. What ever combination I tried, whatever I configured in the kernel (with or without DMA, with or without ECP facilities of the parallel port), I get many times this error message: stray irq 7 too many stray irq 7's; not logging any more sometimes stray irq 5 too many stray irq 5's; not logging any more IRQ 7 is attached to the HP C-LJ4500 on LPT1, IRQ 5 to LJ4000 on LPT2, bot ports are configured as SPP. - MfG O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver-Abteilung des IPA IT Netz- und Systembetreuung Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 D-55099 Mainz BRD/Germany Tel: +496131/3924662 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 27 6:32:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0D037B479; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 06:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JVU4VGCFA4000V4P@research.kpn.com>; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:32:13 +0200 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:32:13 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:32:10 +0100 From: "Koster, K.J." Subject: RE: STRAY IRQ's message what does it means? To: "'O. Hartmann'" , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7974@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.geocrawler.com/search/?config=151&words=stray+irq+7&SUBMIT=Search +freebsd-questions Kees Jan ================================================ You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. > -----Original Message----- > From: O. Hartmann [mailto:ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de] > Sent: vrijdag 27 oktober 2000 10:56 > To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: STRAY IRQ's message what does it means? > > > Hello. > > We have a server attached to two parallel printers, both HP LaserJets, > one colour type. The colour laser is attached to the on board parallel > port, the second b/w laser is attached to a second parallel port card > on ISA bus. > > What ever combination I tried, whatever I configured in the kernel > (with or without DMA, with or without ECP facilities of the parallel > port), I get many times this error message: > > stray irq 7 > too many stray irq 7's; not logging any more > > sometimes > stray irq 5 > too many stray irq 5's; not logging any more > > IRQ 7 is attached to the HP C-LJ4500 on LPT1, IRQ 5 to LJ4000 on LPT2, > bot ports are configured as SPP. > > - > MfG > O. Hartmann > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de > > Klimadatenserver-Abteilung des IPA > IT Netz- und Systembetreuung > Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz > Becherweg 21 > D-55099 Mainz > BRD/Germany > > Tel: +496131/3924662 > FAX: +496131/3923532 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 27 20:26:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cs4.cs.ait.ac.th (cs4.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E179737B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 20:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by cs4.cs.ait.ac.th (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09451 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:26:01 +0700 (GMT+0700) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA00671; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:25:59 +0700 (ICT) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:25:59 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200010280325.KAA00671@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Authentication-Warning: banyan.cs.ait.ac.th: on set sender to on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th using -f From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Intel STL2 Mother board Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I would like to knoe if any of you have installed FreeBSd on Intel STL2 motherboard, and if it works smoothly, especially regarding SCSI Ultra 160 interface. I also plan to get Seagate Baracuda 18GB U160 disks. Any advice is welcome Thank you, Olivier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 28 13:47:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from tau.ceti.com.pl (tau.ceti.com.pl [195.116.211.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DAC137B479 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tau.ceti.com.pl (Postfix, from userid 502) id 00851F38B5; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:47:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:47:03 +0200 From: Pawel Krawczyk To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: silo overflows on high-speed serial ports Message-ID: <20001028224703.H5579@tau.ceti.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Organization: CETI internet services, Krakow, Poland Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm trying to use a high-speed serial port under FreeBSD-3.5 stable, but I only get such kernel messages: sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 29691) The port is ISA card with jumper configured divisor, set up to 460800. It is properly detected by the kernel and used to send PPP with pppd using 115200 speed, which should work thanks to the hardware divisor. Unfortunately it only gets the overflows. The same hardware (card+modem) works under Linux, so the setup is correct. What am I doing wrong with the FreeBSD configuration? Should I use some additional flags in the kernel configuration? Thanks for any suggestions. -- Paweł Krawczyk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 28 22:25:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from transbay.net (dns1.transbay.net [209.133.53.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CC337B479 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from transbay.net (rigel.transbay.net [209.133.53.177]) by transbay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA92077 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39FBB846.123033FE@transbay.net> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:40:22 -0700 From: UCTC Sysadmin Organization: UC Telecommunications Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB ports replacing legacy ports on new machines References: <20001019023452.223AE1F3@woodstock.monkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I thought USB's speed limit was 400kbps. I can't see using USB for ethernet or disk. From what I've read, Firewire is the better solution of the two. Way better throughput. I have recently seen a hard drive with a firewire interface, FWIW. If I read industry standard practice correctly from the retail point of view, USB will be pumped up and sold out until the next "wonderful bus", a.k.a. Firewire, is "discovered". It's only money. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message