From owner-freebsd-java Tue Aug 15 2:31:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from stargate.spray.se (stargate.spray.se [212.78.194.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 281FC37B929 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 02:31:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from origo@spray.se) Received: from 172.16.10.6 by stargate.spray.se (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:30:02 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) Received: by titan.i.spray.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:31:55 +0200 Message-ID: <41AF07DE6293D311AF9C009027C23B26033C9B42@titan.i.spray.se> From: Mattias Nilsson To: "'freebsd-java@freebsd.org'" Subject: Binary Alpha Dist ? Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:31:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I am very anxious to test out the JDK1.2.2 FreeBSD port with my = application. I have tried to build the JDK using the Sun source and the FreeBSD = patches, but ran into some problems that I feel is out of hand for me. Basically, what I was wondering was if someone has a binary = distribution that I can try out on my box. I would be glad to give feedback on whatever I = may discover. My box is a 4.1-RELEASE and the application I am developing is very intensive on direct and multicast UDP communication. I have tried the Blackdown port in linux compat mode, but it fails on Multicast sockets (seems as if it doesn't set SO_REUSEADDR). Any help is appreciated, both with providing a binary distribution and = on the SO_REUSEADDR problem. Thank you in advance. Best Regards, Mattias Nilsson ____________________spray_labs____________________ Mattias Nilsson www.spray.se/ origo@spray.{se|no|fr|it|net} origo@spraylabs.com =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Aug 15 5:55:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3420537B6E1 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 05:55:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glewis@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04591; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 22:24:46 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from glewis) From: Greg Lewis Message-Id: <200008151254.WAA04591@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Binary Alpha Dist ? In-Reply-To: <41AF07DE6293D311AF9C009027C23B26033C9B42@titan.i.spray.se> from Mattias Nilsson at "Aug 15, 2000 11:31:46 am" To: Mattias Nilsson Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 22:24:46 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL70 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mattias Nilsson wrote: > I am very anxious to test out the JDK1.2.2 FreeBSD port with my application. > I have tried to build the JDK using the Sun source and the FreeBSD patches, > but ran into some problems that I feel is out of hand for me. > > Basically, what I was wondering was if someone has a binary distribution that > I can try out on my box. I would be glad to give feedback on whatever I may > discover. Hi Mattias, Sorry, but distributing a binary version to you would be a violation of the SCSL. There are a plans for a binary release, but first the current code must successfully negotiate the tests in the JCK. Sun estimates this will take us 3 months :(. -- Greg Lewis glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au Computing Officer +61 8 8303 5083 Teletraffic Research Centre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Aug 15 7:33: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from stargate.spray.se (stargate.spray.se [212.78.194.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B85537B9FF for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 07:32:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from origo@spray.se) Received: from 172.16.10.6 by stargate.spray.se (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:31:09 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) Received: by titan.i.spray.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:33:02 +0200 Message-ID: <41AF07DE6293D311AF9C009027C23B26033C9B49@titan.i.spray.se> From: =?UTF-8?B?TWF0dGlhcyBOaWxzc29u?= To: =?UTF-8?B?J0dyZWcgTGV3aXMn?= Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UkU6IEJpbmFyeSBBbHBoYSBEaXN0ID8=?= Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:32:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello and thanks for the response. I can understand that you cannot distribute a binary distribution to me, we wouldn't want to go up agains Sun, now would we ? :-) However, you might be able to assist me in trying to compile it myself ? :-) I tried following the guidelines at http://web.inter.nl.net/users/kjkoster/java/index.html (as pointed out by the FreeBSD Java Project: JDK 2 page). However, it = seems like the patch distribution I downloaded doesn't match the JDK source distribution I = have. The patches I downloaded are http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsd-jdk122-patches-latest.tar.gz and the source distribution I have is jdk1.2.2 (It said Solaris/Linux/Windows NT on the download page), no patches applied. I made sure all the packages that's required are installed on my = system. The problems I get start with applying the build.patches file; Hunk #1 succeeds,=20 but when trying to patch freebsd/GNUmakefile I get: Patching file GNUmakefile using Plan A... Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [y] This confuses me. I know what it means (from the patch manpage), but = why ? My suspicion is that I have the wrong JDK source distribution.. Can you help me here ? ____________________spray_labs____________________ Mattias Nilsson www.spray.se/ origo@spray.{se|no|fr|it|net} origo@spraylabs.com =C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF= =C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF= =C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF= =C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF= =C2=AF=C2=AF -----Original Message----- From: Greg Lewis [mailto:glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 14:55 To: Mattias Nilsson Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Binary Alpha Dist ? Mattias Nilsson wrote: > I am very anxious to test out the JDK1.2.2 FreeBSD port with my application. > I have tried to build the JDK using the Sun source and the FreeBSD patches, > but ran into some problems that I feel is out of hand for me. >=20 > Basically, what I was wondering was if someone has a binary = distribution that > I can try out on my box. I would be glad to give feedback on whatever = I may > discover. Hi Mattias, Sorry, but distributing a binary version to you would be a violation of = the SCSL. There are a plans for a binary release, but first the current = code must successfully negotiate the tests in the JCK. Sun estimates this = will take us 3 months :(. --=20 Greg Lewis glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au Computing Officer +61 8 8303 5083 Teletraffic Research Centre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Aug 15 11:12: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99A637BE87 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:12:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from K.J.Koster@kpn.com) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JT0FD0SWIW000AED@research.kpn.com> for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:11:55 +0200 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:11:54 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:11:51 +0100 From: =?utf-8?B?S29zdGVyLCBLLkou?= Subject: =?utf-8?B?YnVpbGQgcHJvYmxlbXMgKHdhczogQmluYXJ5IEFscGhhIERpc3Qg?= =?utf-8?B?Pyk=?= To: =?utf-8?B?J01hdHRpYXMgTmlsc3Nvbic=?= Cc: =?utf-8?B?J0ZyZWVCU0QgSmF2YSBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3Qn?= Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D77BC@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I can understand that you cannot distribute a binary > distribution to me, we wouldn't want to go up agains > Sun, now would we ? :-) > I'm sure we will get plenty of opportunity when Microsoft releases C#. Anyone up to prove that C# is syntactic sugar by patching Sun's JDK to accept C# syntax? :-) > > I tried following the guidelines at > http://web.inter.nl.net/users/kjkoster/java/index.html > (as pointed out by the FreeBSD Java Project: JDK 2 page). > However, it seems like the patch distribution I downloaded > doesn't match the JDK source distribution I have. > There's a simple test. If you "ls -l" your JDK source tarball, it should be precisely 19742229 bytes. If you have any other size, I think you may have downloaded the wrong sources. I have just downloaded the tarball again to make sure, and it is still correct. > > The patches I downloaded are > http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsd-jdk122-patches- > latest.tar.gz > That is correct ... euh ... Greg, I thought that people had to click-through-sign a license agreement and that the direct download was no longer available. > > This confuses me. I know what it means (from the patch > manpage), but why ? My suspicion is that I have the wrong JDK > source distribution.. > Follow the link on my howto page, from there click on "download" for the top one of the three. That should give you the correct sources. Look for the 19MB tarball. Let me know how it went. Kees Jan ================================================= TV is the worst of both worlds. It's not as good at words as radio is because the pictures are a distraction which demand attention, and it's not as good as cinema because the pictures are not nearly as good. Douglas Adams To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Aug 15 11:55: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from newton.webprogrammers.net (newton.webprogrammers.net [204.221.75.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78C437B6BD for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:54:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jstepka@newton.webprogrammers.net) Received: from localhost (jstepka@localhost) by newton.webprogrammers.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA42533; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:04:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jstepka@newton.webprogrammers.net) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:04:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Justen Stepka To: =?utf-8?B?S29zdGVyLCBLLkou?= Cc: =?utf-8?B?J01hdHRpYXMgTmlsc3Nvbic=?= , =?utf-8?B?J0ZyZWVCU0QgSmF2YSBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3Qn?= Subject: Re: =?utf-8?B?YnVpbGQgcHJvYmxlbXMgKHdhczogQmluYXJ5IEFscGhhIERpc3Qg?= =?utf-8?B?Pyk=?= In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D77BC@l04.research.kpn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This still doesn't answer why we can't get a binary version of the 1.2.2 JDK! And damn it, I want J2EE for FBSD too! Justen Stepka y On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, [utf-8] Koster, K.J. wrote: > > > > I can understand that you cannot distribute a binary > > distribution to me, we wouldn't want to go up agains > > Sun, now would we ? :-) > > > I'm sure we will get plenty of opportunity when Microsoft releases C#. > Anyone up to prove that C# is syntactic sugar by patching Sun's JDK to > accept C# syntax? :-) > > > > > I tried following the guidelines at > > http://web.inter.nl.net/users/kjkoster/java/index.html > > (as pointed out by the FreeBSD Java Project: JDK 2 page). > > However, it seems like the patch distribution I downloaded > > doesn't match the JDK source distribution I have. > > > There's a simple test. If you "ls -l" your JDK source tarball, it should be > precisely 19742229 bytes. If you have any other size, I think you may have > downloaded the wrong sources. I have just downloaded the tarball again to > make sure, and it is still correct. > > > > > The patches I downloaded are > > http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsd-jdk122-patches- > > latest.tar.gz > > > That is correct ... euh ... Greg, I thought that people had to > click-through-sign a license agreement and that the direct download was no > longer available. > > > > > This confuses me. I know what it means (from the patch > > manpage), but why ? My suspicion is that I have the wrong JDK > > source distribution.. > > > Follow the link on my howto page, from there click on "download" for the top > one of the three. That should give you the correct sources. Look for the > 19MB tarball. > > Let me know how it went. > > Kees Jan > > ================================================= > TV is the worst of both worlds. It's not as > good at words as radio is because the pictures > are a distraction which demand attention, and > it's not as good as cinema because the pictures > are not nearly as good. > Douglas Adams > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Aug 15 12: 2: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8214937B8E6 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:02:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from K.J.Koster@kpn.com) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JT0H40F4OI0009DO@research.kpn.com> for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:01:55 +0200 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:01:54 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:01:53 +0100 From: =?utf-8?B?S29zdGVyLCBLLkou?= Subject: =?utf-8?B?UkU6IGJ1aWxkIHByb2JsZW1zICh3YXM6IEJpbmFyeSBBbHBoYSBE?= =?utf-8?B?aXN0ID8p?= To: =?utf-8?B?J0p1c3RlbiBTdGVwa2En?= Cc: =?utf-8?B?J0ZyZWVCU0QgSmF2YSBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3Qn?= Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D77BF@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > This still doesn't answer why we can't get a binary version > of the 1.2.2 JDK! > Sun allows us to release a binary release for the JDK as soon as we have tested it for compliancy with Sun's JCK test suite. Nate Williams is going to perform the actual tests, and you are warmly invited to help sort out and fix the problems we find. :-) > > And damn it, > No need to be rude. :-) > > I want J2EE for FBSD too! > If you will work on porting it, I will happily assist with documenting and testing it. Kees Jan ================================================= TV is the worst of both worlds. It's not as good at words as radio is because the pictures are a distraction which demand attention, and it's not as good as cinema because the pictures are not nearly as good. Douglas Adams To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Aug 15 13:39:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from stargate.spray.se (stargate.spray.se [212.78.194.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE30637BBC1 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:39:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from origo@spray.se) Received: from 172.16.10.6 by stargate.spray.se (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 15 Aug 2000 22:37:28 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) Received: by titan.i.spray.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 22:39:21 +0200 Message-ID: <41AF07DE6293D311AF9C009027C23B26033C9B51@titan.i.spray.se> From: =?UTF-8?B?TWF0dGlhcyBOaWxzc29u?= To: =?UTF-8?B?J2dsZXdpc0B0cmMuYWRlbGFpZGUuZWR1LmF1Jw==?= , =?UTF-8?B?S29zdGVyLCBLLkou?= Cc: =?UTF-8?B?J0ZyZWVCU0QgSmF2YSBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3Qn?= Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UkU6IGJ1aWxkIHByb2JsZW1zICh3YXM6IEJpbmFyeSBBbHBoYSBE?= =?UTF-8?B?aXN0ID8p?= Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 22:39:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! I finally got the patch stuff working out (what can I say, no one's = perfect :). I started the build and it went on for some 30 minutes, then halted = with the following error message: /aux1/src/jdkport/work/build/solaris/bin/javac: not found gmake[2]: *** [.compile.classlist] Error 127 gmake[2]: Leaving directory = `/aux1/src/jdkport/work/ext/i18n/build/freebsd' gmake[1]: *** [optimized] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory = `/aux1/src/jdkport/work/ext/i18n/build/freebsd' gmake: *** [ext-all] Error 1 solaris ? I looked in the GNUmakefile in /aux1/src/jdkport/work/ext/i18n/build/freebsd, and it had = `solaris=C2=B4 hard-coded in it: BUILDDIR =3D $(shell cd $(EXT_TOPDIR)/../../build/solaris; pwd) Same thing again later, this time in /aux1/src/jdkport/work/ext/iiimp/build/freebsd. Am I missing some patchfile perhaps ? Anyway, it took me about an hour and a half to build (and hand-patch) = the port, and I got it to work! I tried it with my application, and it = seems the SO_REUSEADDR problem is gone for good. Maybe I should report this as a = bug in the Blackdown port ? Thanks alot for your effort in porting the JDK and for helping me out! Cheers! __Mattias Nilsson_________________origo@spray.se__ =C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF= =C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF= =C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF= =C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF= =C2=AF=C2=AF=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Aug 15 15:25:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038F037B80B for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:25:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glewis@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA08130; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 07:55:39 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from glewis) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 07:55:39 +0930 From: Greg Lewis To: "Koster, K.J." Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: build problems (was: Binary Alpha Dist ?) Message-ID: <20000816075539.A8066@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au> References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D77BC@l04.research.kpn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D77BC@l04.research.kpn.com>; from K.J.Koster@kpn.com on Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 08:11:51PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 08:11:51PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote: > > The patches I downloaded are > > http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsd-jdk122-patches- > > latest.tar.gz > > > That is correct ... euh ... Greg, I thought that people had to > click-through-sign a license agreement and that the direct download was no > longer available. Well, I was waiting to see if anyone had any problems first... Just turned off access now. I'll try and get some redirection happening for people using the old links. -- Greg Lewis glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au Computing Officer +61 8 8303 5083 Teletraffic Research Centre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Aug 15 15:33:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FCA37B9E2 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:33:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glewis@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA08176; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:03:31 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from glewis) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:03:31 +0930 From: Greg Lewis To: Mattias Nilsson Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: build problems (was: Binary Alpha Dist ?) Message-ID: <20000816080331.B8066@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au> References: <41AF07DE6293D311AF9C009027C23B26033C9B51@titan.i.spray.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <41AF07DE6293D311AF9C009027C23B26033C9B51@titan.i.spray.se>; from origo@spray.se on Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 10:39:10PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 10:39:10PM +0200, Mattias Nilsson wrote: > I finally got the patch stuff working out (what can I say, no one's perfect > :). > I started the build and it went on for some 30 minutes, then halted with the > following error message: [Error snippage] > Am I missing some patchfile perhaps ? Yep. patchset 10 (you have 9) has fixed these i18n issues. You can get it at http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsddom/java/jdk.html (and mirrors :). That will mean building the JDK again though. > Anyway, it took me about an hour and a half to build (and hand-patch) the > port, and I got it to work! I tried it with my application, and it seems the > SO_REUSEADDR problem is gone for good. Maybe I should report this as a bug > in the Blackdown port ? Might be a bug in the Linux emulation instead though. -- Greg Lewis glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au Computing Officer +61 8 8303 5083 Teletraffic Research Centre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Aug 15 23:46:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from stargate.spray.se (stargate.spray.se [212.78.194.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9443B37B5A9 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 23:46:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from origo@spray.se) Received: from 172.16.10.6 by stargate.spray.se (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:45:07 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) Received: by titan.i.spray.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:47:01 +0200 Message-ID: <41AF07DE6293D311AF9C009027C23B26033C9B52@titan.i.spray.se> From: =?UTF-8?B?TWF0dGlhcyBOaWxzc29u?= To: =?UTF-8?B?J0dyZWcgTGV3aXMn?= Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UkU6IGJ1aWxkIHByb2JsZW1zICh3YXM6IEJpbmFyeSBBbHBoYSBE?= =?UTF-8?B?aXN0ID8p?= Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:47:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 10:39:10PM +0200, Mattias Nilsson wrote: >> Am I missing some patchfile perhaps ? > >Yep. patchset 10 (you have 9) has fixed these i18n issues. You can = get >it at http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsddom/java/jdk.html (and mirrors = :). >That will mean building the JDK again though. Ok, thanks. I just started another build. Hope it'll go smoothly. >> Anyway, it took me about an hour and a half to build (and = hand-patch) the >> port, and I got it to work! I tried it with my application, and it = seems the >> SO_REUSEADDR problem is gone for good. Maybe I should report this as = a bug >> in the Blackdown port ? >Might be a bug in the Linux emulation instead though. Yes, I realized that aswell. How would one go about reporting that ? ____________________spray_labs____________________ Mattias Nilsson www.spray.se/ origo@spray.{se|no|fr|it|net} origo@spraylabs.com =C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF= =C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF= =C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF= =C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF=C2=AF= =C2=AF=C2=AF To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Aug 16 12:32:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from tkh.att.ne.jp (tkh.att.ne.jp [165.76.17.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767AE37C6EF for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:10:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fuyuhik8@is.titech.ac.jp) Received: from tripper.is.titech.ac.jp.is.titech.ac.jp (85.pool27.tokyo.att.ne.jp [165.76.232.100]) by tkh.att.ne.jp (8.8.8+Spin/3.6W-CONS(07/05/00)) id DAA27221; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 03:59:09 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 04:01:55 +0900 Message-ID: <554s4lm3mk.wl@is.titech.ac.jp> From: Fuyuhiko Maruyama To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Experimental patch enabling native_threads. User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.2.18 (Please Forgive Me) on XEmacs/21.2.35 "Nike" MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Thu_Aug_17_04:01:33_2000-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Multipart_Thu_Aug_17_04:01:33_2000-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi, challengers! I made patches enabling native_threads part of FreeBSD's JDK 1.2.2. Patches are for FreeBSD's JDK 1.2.2 with patchset-10. To try this, apply patches to JDK source tree after application of patchset-10's patches. *Current Status* It seems to work at least small program like javac, without JIT, but some problems are still remaining. 1. Sometime, I/O system call causes unexpected error like EBADF. I met it when I try to build JDK with native_threads version of JDK. The problem I see is read system call's failure, and it causes very strange exception: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Runtime More strange fact is ktrace's output. It doesn't contains the failing syscall. Of course, I check the syscall itself is really performed, by inserting printf before and after the read system call and it seems to really call read syscall. So it may be a problem of pthreads implementation instead of native_threads JDK, but I cannot decide it at this time. 2. Signals doesn't seem to delivered to the thread who raise the signal. This is really serious problem for JIT compilers using signals to treat some runtime exception of Java like NullPointerException, ArithmeticException (e.g. OpenJIT, shujit and missing sunwjit). Are there anyway to deliver signal to the signal raising thread? 3. Java2D doesn't work. Notepad seems to work for me faster than with green_threads, I feel it is strange. Another demos aren't tested at all. 4. At this time, I test it only on 3.4-STABLE box. Building and very small test is done on 5.0-CURRENT box too. 5. It will increase the cost of test that our porting is confirm to JCK. ;-) Dropping native_threads is one reasonable choice at this time. 6. And more and more I don't find. Are there somebody who want/try to make native_threads more complete one? Please revise it. My spare time in this summer is over. ;-< I think that to make native_threads working is good for not only Java user but also FreeBSD's thread user, because native_threads use thread very specially and it realize lacking facilities of POSIX threads specifications. By the way, including shell script like prepare_tree.sh in patchset is useful, isn't it? Of course, I know using ports system is the best way. 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TOP=/work/jdk1.2.2p10 # Setting this to point the archive for JDK's source tarball. TARBALL=/archives/jdk1_2_2-src.tar.gz PATCHDIR=`pwd` copy_dir () { return_dir=`pwd` container_dir=$1 original_dir=$2 clone_dir=$3 echo "Copying ${container_dir}/${original_dir} into ${container_dir}/${clone_dir}" cd $container_dir mkdir $clone_dir cd $original_dir tar cf - . | (cd ../$clone_dir; tar xf -) cd $return_dir } /usr/X11R6/bin/mkdirhier $TOP echo "Extracting $TARBALL into $TOP" (cd $TOP; zcat $TARBALL | tar xf -) copy_dir $TOP/build solaris freebsd echo "Applying patches to $TOP/build/freebsd" (cd $TOP/build/freebsd; patch -s -p1 < ${PATCHDIR}/build.patches) echo "Applying patches to $TOP/build/share" (cd $TOP/build/share; patch -s -p1 < ${PATCHDIR}/buildshare.patches) copy_dir $TOP/src solaris freebsd echo "Applying patches to $TOP/src/freebsd" (cd $TOP/src/freebsd; patch -s -p1 < ${PATCHDIR}/src.patches) echo "Applying patches to $TOP/src/share" (cd $TOP/src/share; patch -s -p1 < ${PATCHDIR}/srcshare.patches) copy_dir $TOP/ext/i18n/build solaris freebsd copy_dir $TOP/ext/i18n/src solaris freebsd copy_dir $TOP/ext/iiimp/build solaris freebsd (cd $TOP/ext; patch -s -p0 < ${PATCHDIR}/ext.patches) --Multipart_Thu_Aug_17_04:01:33_2000-1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Aug 16 13:32:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from unicap.br (email.unicap.br [200.133.2.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2BE37B56D for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:32:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luciano@unicap.br) Received: from unicap.br (sirimole.unicap.br [200.133.2.220]) by unicap.br (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/1) with ESMTP id RAA09866 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:26:51 -0300 Message-ID: <399AFB66.AB273EC1@unicap.br> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:36:54 -0300 From: Luciano de Oliveira X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: JDK1.1.8 and Jpass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ALL I'm quite new to the freebsd world, and i'm trying to use to be my java production server. we're trying to use apache+Jserv+jsdk+Jpass. Jpass is a program from Caribou Lake Software and it is used to talk through the firewall, with our OPen ingres SGBD. I've set all the classpath stuff, The test program, that tests the communication with the database, compile but don't run. The error looks like it isn't finding some class, how do i know the class that is missing? when i install the jdk port it don't bring all the classes? Thanks a lot. Luciano To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Aug 16 14:46:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BFF37BBB6 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:46:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glewis@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA25157; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 07:16:11 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from glewis) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 07:16:11 +0930 From: Greg Lewis To: Fuyuhiko Maruyama Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Experimental patch enabling native_threads. Message-ID: <20000817071611.B25033@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au> References: <554s4lm3mk.wl@is.titech.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <554s4lm3mk.wl@is.titech.ac.jp>; from fuyuhik8@is.titech.ac.jp on Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 04:01:55AM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 04:01:55AM +0900, Fuyuhiko Maruyama wrote: > Hi, challengers! > > I made patches enabling native_threads part of FreeBSD's JDK 1.2.2. > Patches are for FreeBSD's JDK 1.2.2 with patchset-10. To try this, > apply patches to JDK source tree after application of patchset-10's > patches. And the crowd goes wild! Great job Fuyuhiko-san! Even if the implementation isn't perfect we now have a good starting point :). More complete response when I've read the patches :). -- Greg Lewis glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au Computing Officer +61 8 8303 5083 Teletraffic Research Centre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Aug 16 14:49:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from tkh.att.ne.jp (tkh.att.ne.jp [165.76.17.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858BA37B531 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:49:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fuyuhik8@is.titech.ac.jp) Received: from tripper.is.titech.ac.jp.is.titech.ac.jp (188.pool27.tokyo.att.ne.jp [165.76.232.203]) by tkh.att.ne.jp (8.8.8+Spin/3.6W-CONS(07/05/00)) id GAA11183; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 06:49:12 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 06:51:57 +0900 Message-ID: <557l9gyiv6.wl@is.titech.ac.jp> From: Fuyuhiko Maruyama To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Experimental patch enabling native_threads. In-Reply-To: In your message of "Thu, 17 Aug 2000 04:01:55 +0900" <554s4lm3mk.wl@is.titech.ac.jp> References: <554s4lm3mk.wl@is.titech.ac.jp> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.2.18 (Please Forgive Me) on XEmacs/21.2.35 "Nike" MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I found an another problem that appletviewer doesn't stop by menu operation. Sigh.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Aug 16 14:52:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C797937C30E for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:52:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glewis@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA25190; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 07:19:10 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from glewis) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 07:19:10 +0930 From: Greg Lewis To: Luciano de Oliveira Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: JDK1.1.8 and Jpass Message-ID: <20000817071910.C25033@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au> References: <399AFB66.AB273EC1@unicap.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <399AFB66.AB273EC1@unicap.br>; from luciano@unicap.br on Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 05:36:54PM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 05:36:54PM -0300, Luciano de Oliveira wrote: > I'm quite new to the freebsd world, and i'm trying to use to be my java > production server. > we're trying to use apache+Jserv+jsdk+Jpass. Jpass is a program from > Caribou Lake Software > and it is used to talk through the firewall, with our OPen ingres SGBD. > I've set all the classpath > stuff, The test program, that tests the communication with the database, > compile but don't run. > The error looks like it isn't finding some class, how do i know the > class that is missing? when i install > the jdk port it don't bring all the classes? More information please. What is the actual error that you're seeing? -- Greg Lewis glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au Computing Officer +61 8 8303 5083 Teletraffic Research Centre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 17 8:39:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mail.houston.rr.com (sm1.texas.rr.com [24.93.35.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB51337B721 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from momma ([24.162.63.94]) by mail.houston.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:41:02 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000817104042.008c0600@mail.tourneyland.net> X-Sender: chris@mail.tourneyland.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:40:42 -0500 To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org From: Chris Subject: State of Server-Side Java Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey all, I've been out of the FreeBSD-java loop for a while (about 6 months or so, maybe more). I just checked freebsd.org's java page, and the last thing I saw mentioned was "Greg Lewis has just announced that the native FreeBSD JDK 1.2.2 port has entered alpha test stage", dated May 3rd. Here's my situtation: I'm developing a project that requires some server-side code, which I'd like to write in Java, and I'd like to use FreeBSD as a platform. Some of the code will consist of standalone services, and some will be accessed via the Web, which I'd like to write in JSP (I suppose I could live with plain ol' servlets, but I'd rather not). My code is mostly 1.1 compliant, except that I use Collections quite a bit. I'm assuming that he preferred way to implement this goes something like this: 1) Install Apache + Tomcat 2) Assuming that Tomcat comes with a 1.1-compliant JDK, somehow add the Collections classes to its class path. 3) That's pretty much it. Is there any preferred, non-hackish way to add Collections to Tomcat? Has this already been taken care of? Thanks much, Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 17 8:48:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mail.houston.rr.com (sm1.texas.rr.com [24.93.35.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B47337B6A9 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from momma ([24.162.63.94]) by mail.houston.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:49:48 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000817104928.008c1d00@mail.tourneyland.net> X-Sender: chris@mail.tourneyland.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:49:28 -0500 To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org From: Chris Subject: State of Java Development on FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (This is sort of a unrelated followup to my previous posting) Hey all, I'm developing some server-side java code. I'm a Windows guy (though I've been running FreeBSD for over a year now, half-assedly hosting some Web sites), and thus far I've been doing all my development on Windows, using jikes as my compiler and Apache for Windows as my Web server. But ultimately, everything's going to be served by FreeBSD, and it's time I start testing on a FreeBSD machine. One option would be to go all the way - get X-Windows running on my local FreeBSD dev machine, learn emacs or something, and make that my desktop machine. I'm a little intimidated by this prospect, in that I've never even successfully gotten X installed before (I've made a few tries, but was undone by undocced cheapy video cards and gave up). If I go this route, any suggestions for development tools? I don't need any fancy form designers or any visual stuff - I'm currently using Textpad and compiling from the command line fom Windows, and all I really need is a little project managment stuff. A (potentially) simpler option would be to keep my Windows machine as my development machine, and through a combination of Samba and I guess some other stuff, control my Free machine from my Windows machine. Samba would be good enough for file editing, but for compiling and running I suppose I'd have to Alt-Tab back and forth to a telnet window, which isn't too savory. Are there tools out there for doing this sort of thing that I'm not aware of? Thanks, Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 17 9:40:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ds-01.itg.discovery.com (ops.itg.discovery.com [198.147.13.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6D537B83A for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ds-01.itg.discovery.com; id MAA18901; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bet-su5-23.itg.discovery.com; id QAA01098; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:39:38 GMT Message-ID: <399C1549.AD9B3B82@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:39:37 +0000 From: Patrick Gardella X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: State of Server-Side Java References: <3.0.6.32.20000817104042.008c0600@mail.tourneyland.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris wrote: > > Hey all, > > I've been out of the FreeBSD-java loop for a while (about 6 months or so, > maybe more). I just checked freebsd.org's java page, and the last thing I > saw mentioned was "Greg Lewis has just announced that the native FreeBSD > JDK 1.2.2 port has entered alpha test stage", dated May 3rd. Which is where it is. Except that we now (or VSN) have access to the Java Compatability Kit which will allow us to release a binary version. But it's easy to build the "alpha" stage port. > I'm assuming that he preferred way to implement this goes something like this: > > 1) Install Apache + Tomcat Or Apache-JServ (use the port) > 2) Assuming that Tomcat comes with a 1.1-compliant JDK, somehow add the > Collections classes to its class path. Use /usr/ports/java/collections Patrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 17 10:54:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3682B37B7A8 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JT379FCNMU0008RT@research.kpn.com> for freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 19:52:20 +0200 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 19:52:19 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 19:52:19 +0100 From: "Koster, K.J." Subject: RE: State of Server-Side Java To: 'Chris' Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D77C7@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > 1) Install Apache + Tomcat > http://web.inter.nl.net/users/kjkoster/java/index.html Scroll all the way down on the left blue bar, and click on "Tomcat". :-) Kees Jan ================================================= TV is the worst of both worlds. It's not as good at words as radio is because the pictures are a distraction which demand attention, and it's not as good as cinema because the pictures are not nearly as good. Douglas Adams To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 17 11: 1:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.rg.iupui.edu (aurora.rg.iupui.edu [134.68.31.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0508837BB4D for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aurora.rg.iupui.edu (schadow_g.regenstrief.iupui.edu [134.68.31.121]) by aurora.rg.iupui.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA52083; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 13:00:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gunther@aurora.rg.iupui.edu) Message-ID: <399C2838.E969EF9@aurora.rg.iupui.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 13:00:24 -0500 From: Gunther Schadow Organization: Regenstrief Institute for Health Care X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of Java Development on FreeBSD References: <3.0.6.32.20000817104928.008c1d00@mail.tourneyland.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------CC301E2042ABFCE5E5CC6511" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------CC301E2042ABFCE5E5CC6511 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris, I think at some point you're going to make the switch over to UNIX and you will be so happy you've done that. The way you describe your working with Windoze it looks like your prognosis is excellent (your using Alt-Tab shows that you're not yet addicted to clicky-click.) Your not getting X up is a major stumbling block and it shouldn't be that difficult as I can see it turning you off. But since you still keep trying shows just how excellent your prognosis is! :-) If you have a little time to spare I suggest you track down that X11 problem first and then get emacs running. All you need to start is some bash basics and some emacs basics. You can do it all on the non- X console, but it looks more pleasing if you get X running. Getting SAMBA up and working is not a no-brainer either, so you may be better off just swiching the console between an emacs window and a shell window. Jikes works just fine on FreeBSD. So you're all set.... but, Java-1.2.2 is only available in some cumbersome alpha port as of now, so if you want JDK 2 (and there are very good reasons to want it) you need to get that alpha port running (ugh) but you may wait just a few weeks before you can download the first native FreeBSD JDK2 binary. If you want to stick to Windoze for now, and if you get Samba up and working for you (if you don't you *have* to work through the Diagnostics page that guide you step by step ...) you can even do the compiling from Windows, since the class files are not system dependent binaries. The only issue left is then that you have to use the JDK that you can get running on FreeBSD, which is 1.1.8 rock solid of 1.2.2 (with fingers crossed). keep the faith, you're gonna be happy you did it! -Gunther Chris wrote: > > (This is sort of a unrelated followup to my previous posting) > > Hey all, > > I'm developing some server-side java code. I'm a Windows guy (though I've > been running FreeBSD for over a year now, half-assedly hosting some Web > sites), and thus far I've been doing all my development on Windows, using > jikes as my compiler and Apache for Windows as my Web server. But > ultimately, everything's going to be served by FreeBSD, and it's time I > start testing on a FreeBSD machine. > > One option would be to go all the way - get X-Windows running on my local > FreeBSD dev machine, learn emacs or something, and make that my desktop > machine. I'm a little intimidated by this prospect, in that I've never even > successfully gotten X installed before (I've made a few tries, but was > undone by undocced cheapy video cards and gave up). If I go this route, any > suggestions for development tools? I don't need any fancy form designers or > any visual stuff - I'm currently using Textpad and compiling from the > command line fom Windows, and all I really need is a little project > managment stuff. > > A (potentially) simpler option would be to keep my Windows machine as my > development machine, and through a combination of Samba and I guess some > other stuff, control my Free machine from my Windows machine. Samba would > be good enough for file editing, but for compiling and running I suppose > I'd have to Alt-Tab back and forth to a telnet window, which isn't too > savory. Are there tools out there for doing this sort of thing that I'm not > aware of? > > Thanks, > Chris > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message --------------CC301E2042ABFCE5E5CC6511 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="gunther.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Gunther Schadow Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="gunther.vcf" begin:vcard n:Schadow;Gunther tel;fax:+1 317 630 6962 tel;home:+1 317 816 0516 tel;work:+1 317 630 7960 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu org:Regenstrief Institute for Health Care adr:;;1050 Wishard Blvd;Indianapolis;Indiana;46202;USA version:2.1 email;internet:gschadow@regenstrief.org title:M.D., Medical Information Scientist note;quoted-printable:Al oppinions expressed in this message are my own and do =0D=0Anot necessarily represent those of the Regenstrief Institute. fn:Gunther Schadow end:vcard --------------CC301E2042ABFCE5E5CC6511-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 17 18:46:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.129.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B541537B712 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpshb2.statcan.ca (smtpshb2.statcan.ca [142.206.3.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B426E33AF for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpshb2.statcan.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtpshb2.statcan.ca (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21610 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:51:40 -0400 Received: from smtpsha.iusd.statcan.ca (smtpsha.iusd.statcan.ca [142.205.234.131] (may be forged)) by smtpsha.iusd.statcan.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA27554; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:42:28 -0400 Received: from msxa1.statcan.ca (msxa1.statcan.ca [142.205.234.72]) by smtpsha.iusd.statcan.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA26647; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:41:08 -0400 Received: by msxa1.statcan.ca with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:36:53 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Jeays, Mike - SDD/DDS" To: "'Chris'" , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: State of Java Development on FreeBSD Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:36:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would strongly recommend going all the way to a FreeBSD desktop, running either KDE or Gnome. There are lots of good tools nowadays; for editors, I like Nedit as a simple but very powerful tool - and it is surely better than TextPad. There are IDEs for Java development, although I haven't personally used any of them. There are lots of inexpensive video cards these days that are well supported by X-Windows, and which will give more than adequate performance for the kind of work you describe. Look through the (long) list of supported cards in the FreeBSD Handbook, and choose one of those. You should have no trouble installing and configuring X-Windows with a recent FreeBSD release. -----Original Message----- From: Chris [mailto:chris@tourneyland.net] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 11:49 AM To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: State of Java Development on FreeBSD (This is sort of a unrelated followup to my previous posting) Hey all, I'm developing some server-side java code. I'm a Windows guy (though I've been running FreeBSD for over a year now, half-assedly hosting some Web sites), and thus far I've been doing all my development on Windows, using jikes as my compiler and Apache for Windows as my Web server. But ultimately, everything's going to be served by FreeBSD, and it's time I start testing on a FreeBSD machine. One option would be to go all the way - get X-Windows running on my local FreeBSD dev machine, learn emacs or something, and make that my desktop machine. I'm a little intimidated by this prospect, in that I've never even successfully gotten X installed before (I've made a few tries, but was undone by undocced cheapy video cards and gave up). If I go this route, any suggestions for development tools? I don't need any fancy form designers or any visual stuff - I'm currently using Textpad and compiling from the command line fom Windows, and all I really need is a little project managment stuff. A (potentially) simpler option would be to keep my Windows machine as my development machine, and through a combination of Samba and I guess some other stuff, control my Free machine from my Windows machine. Samba would be good enough for file editing, but for compiling and running I suppose I'd have to Alt-Tab back and forth to a telnet window, which isn't too savory. Are there tools out there for doing this sort of thing that I'm not aware of? Thanks, Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 17 20: 1:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from reliant.immure.com (cs273-42.austin.rr.com [24.27.3.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F71037B43F for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by reliant.knighthammer.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id VAA94733; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:47:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from wayne) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:47:41 -0500 From: Wayne Willcox To: Gunther Schadow Cc: Chris , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of Java Development on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20000817214741.A94700@reliant.knighthammer.com> Reply-To: Wayne Willcox References: <3.0.6.32.20000817104928.008c1d00@mail.tourneyland.net> <399C2838.E969EF9@aurora.rg.iupui.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <399C2838.E969EF9@aurora.rg.iupui.edu> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD reliant.knighthammer.com 3.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you want to work with Samba I find the Using Samba book very helpful. Lets face most of us don't really want to be the Samba expert but to just make it work. :-) On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 01:00:24PM -0500, Gunther Schadow wrote: > Chris, > > I think at some point you're going to make the switch over to UNIX and > you will be so happy you've done that. The way you describe your > working with Windoze it looks like your prognosis is excellent (your > using Alt-Tab shows that you're not yet addicted to clicky-click.) > > Your not getting X up is a major stumbling block and it shouldn't be > that difficult as I can see it turning you off. But since you still > keep trying shows just how excellent your prognosis is! :-) > > If you have a little time to spare I suggest you track down that X11 > problem first and then get emacs running. All you need to start is > some bash basics and some emacs basics. You can do it all on the non- > X console, but it looks more pleasing if you get X running. Getting > SAMBA up and working is not a no-brainer either, so you may be better > off just swiching the console between an emacs window and a shell window. > > Jikes works just fine on FreeBSD. So you're all set.... but, Java-1.2.2 > is only available in some cumbersome alpha port as of now, so if you > want JDK 2 (and there are very good reasons to want it) you need to > get that alpha port running (ugh) but you may wait just a few weeks > before you can download the first native FreeBSD JDK2 binary. > > If you want to stick to Windoze for now, and if you get Samba up and > working for you (if you don't you *have* to work through the > Diagnostics page that guide you step by step ...) you can even do > the compiling from Windows, since the class files are not system > dependent binaries. The only issue left is then that you have to use > the JDK that you can get running on FreeBSD, which is 1.1.8 rock solid > of 1.2.2 (with fingers crossed). > > keep the faith, you're gonna be happy you did it! > -Gunther > > > > Chris wrote: > > > > (This is sort of a unrelated followup to my previous posting) > > > > Hey all, > > > > I'm developing some server-side java code. I'm a Windows guy (though I've > > been running FreeBSD for over a year now, half-assedly hosting some Web > > sites), and thus far I've been doing all my development on Windows, using > > jikes as my compiler and Apache for Windows as my Web server. But > > ultimately, everything's going to be served by FreeBSD, and it's time I > > start testing on a FreeBSD machine. > > > > One option would be to go all the way - get X-Windows running on my local > > FreeBSD dev machine, learn emacs or something, and make that my desktop > > machine. I'm a little intimidated by this prospect, in that I've never even > > successfully gotten X installed before (I've made a few tries, but was > > undone by undocced cheapy video cards and gave up). If I go this route, any > > suggestions for development tools? I don't need any fancy form designers or > > any visual stuff - I'm currently using Textpad and compiling from the > > command line fom Windows, and all I really need is a little project > > managment stuff. > > > > A (potentially) simpler option would be to keep my Windows machine as my > > development machine, and through a combination of Samba and I guess some > > other stuff, control my Free machine from my Windows machine. Samba would > > be good enough for file editing, but for compiling and running I suppose > > I'd have to Alt-Tab back and forth to a telnet window, which isn't too > > savory. Are there tools out there for doing this sort of thing that I'm not > > aware of? > > > > Thanks, > > Chris > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message Content-Description: Card for Gunther Schadow -- Slowly and surely the unix crept up on the Nintendo user ... Wayne Willcox I will not eat green eggs and ham wayne@reliant.immure.com I will not eat them Sam I Am!! A wise person makes his own decisions, a weak one obeys public opinion. -- Chinese proverb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 17 21:25:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F1037B43E; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA27861; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:25:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22314; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:24:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:24:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008180424.WAA22314@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Patrick Gardella Cc: Chris , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of Server-Side Java In-Reply-To: <399C1549.AD9B3B82@freebsd.org> References: <3.0.6.32.20000817104042.008c0600@mail.tourneyland.net> <399C1549.AD9B3B82@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I've been out of the FreeBSD-java loop for a while (about 6 months or so, > > maybe more). I just checked freebsd.org's java page, and the last thing I > > saw mentioned was "Greg Lewis has just announced that the native FreeBSD > > JDK 1.2.2 port has entered alpha test stage", dated May 3rd. > > Which is where it is. Except that we now (or VSN) have access to the > Java Compatability Kit which will allow us to release a binary version. We have NOW (like it's sitting on my box). I haven't (yet) unpacked, although I think Greg has taken a look at it. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 17 21:50:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from www.kpi.com.au (www.kpi.com.au [203.39.132.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD1637B62B; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from forge (lurker.kpi.com.au [203.39.132.222]) by www.kpi.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA31942; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:54:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from shevlandj@kpi.com.au) From: "Joe Shevland" To: "Nate Williams" , "Patrick Gardella" Cc: "Chris" , Subject: RE: State of Server-Side Java Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:56:08 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <200008180424.WAA22314@nomad.yogotech.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just curious to know what makes up the three month process predicted by the Sun engineers? Purely just a bulkload of work/fiddling I guess? Cheers, Joe > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Nate Williams > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 2:24 PM > To: Patrick Gardella > Cc: Chris; freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: State of Server-Side Java > > > > > I've been out of the FreeBSD-java loop for a while (about 6 > months or so, > > > maybe more). I just checked freebsd.org's java page, and the > last thing I > > > saw mentioned was "Greg Lewis has just announced that the > native FreeBSD > > > JDK 1.2.2 port has entered alpha test stage", dated May 3rd. > > > > Which is where it is. Except that we now (or VSN) have access to the > > Java Compatability Kit which will allow us to release a binary version. > > We have NOW (like it's sitting on my box). I haven't (yet) unpacked, > although I think Greg has taken a look at it. > > > > Nate > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 17 22:37: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09B337B424; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28985; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:36:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA22521; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:35:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:35:58 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008180535.XAA22521@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Joe Shevland" Cc: "Nate Williams" , "Patrick Gardella" , "Chris" , Subject: RE: State of Server-Side Java In-Reply-To: References: <200008180424.WAA22314@nomad.yogotech.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Just curious to know what makes up the three month process predicted by the > Sun engineers? Purely just a bulkload of work/fiddling I guess? I guess. I don't know enough to even make a good guess..... Nate > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Nate Williams > > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 2:24 PM > > To: Patrick Gardella > > Cc: Chris; freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: State of Server-Side Java > > > > > > > > I've been out of the FreeBSD-java loop for a while (about 6 > > months or so, > > > > maybe more). I just checked freebsd.org's java page, and the > > last thing I > > > > saw mentioned was "Greg Lewis has just announced that the > > native FreeBSD > > > > JDK 1.2.2 port has entered alpha test stage", dated May 3rd. > > > > > > Which is where it is. Except that we now (or VSN) have access to the > > > Java Compatability Kit which will allow us to release a binary version. > > > > We have NOW (like it's sitting on my box). I haven't (yet) unpacked, > > although I think Greg has taken a look at it. > > > > > > > > Nate > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 17 23:37:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from public.bta.net.cn (public.bta.net.cn [202.96.0.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B5F2937B43C for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netrinsics.com([202.108.133.77]) by public.bta.net.cn(JetMail 2.5.3.0) with SMTP id jmd399d340b; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 06:37:31 -0000 Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA51353; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:38:13 +0800 (+0800) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:38:13 +0800 (+0800) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <200008180638.OAA51353@netrinsics.com> To: nate@yogotech.com Subject: RE: State of Server-Side Java Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200008180535.XAA22521@nomad.yogotech.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> Just curious to know what makes up the three month process predicted by the >> Sun engineers? Purely just a bulkload of work/fiddling I guess? > >I guess. I don't know enough to even make a good guess..... This may go without saying, but it's probably a good idea to do as much as possible with typescript running. For posterity. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 17 23:41:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BC037B42C for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00125; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 00:41:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25895; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 00:40:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 00:40:48 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008180640.AAA25895@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Michael Robinson Cc: nate@yogotech.com, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: RE: State of Server-Side Java In-Reply-To: <200008180638.OAA51353@netrinsics.com> References: <200008180535.XAA22521@nomad.yogotech.com> <200008180638.OAA51353@netrinsics.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> Just curious to know what makes up the three month process predicted by the > >> Sun engineers? Purely just a bulkload of work/fiddling I guess? > > > >I guess. I don't know enough to even make a good guess..... > > This may go without saying, but it's probably a good idea to do as much > as possible with typescript running. For posterity. Given the fact that I'm not allowed to share how the tests work or my results (other than YES/NO) or how it all works due to licensing, I'm not sure why... Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 17 23:45:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BC037B42C for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00125; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 00:41:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25895; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 00:40:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 00:40:48 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008180640.AAA25895@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Michael Robinson Cc: nate@yogotech.com, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: RE: State of Server-Side Java In-Reply-To: <200008180638.OAA51353@netrinsics.com> References: <200008180535.XAA22521@nomad.yogotech.com> <200008180638.OAA51353@netrinsics.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> Just curious to know what makes up the three month process predicted by the > >> Sun engineers? Purely just a bulkload of work/fiddling I guess? > > > >I guess. I don't know enough to even make a good guess..... > > This may go without saying, but it's probably a good idea to do as much > as possible with typescript running. For posterity. Given the fact that I'm not allowed to share how the tests work or my results (other than YES/NO) or how it all works due to licensing, I'm not sure why... Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Aug 18 0: 8:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from hoss.tourneyland.net (adsl-216-62-177-2.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [216.62.177.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F5A37B424 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 00:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lurch.houston.rr.com (cs27111-90.houston.rr.com [24.27.111.90]) by hoss.tourneyland.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA33680 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:08:25 GMT (envelope-from chris@tourneyland.net) From: Chris Reply-To: chris@tourneyland.net To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Installing Tomcat from source distr. Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 02:06:15 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00081802080801.01675@lurch.houston.rr.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey all, Can anyone point me to some docs for installing Tomcat from the source distribution? I followed the FAQ and User's Guide, and they all point to how to install the binary version. Am I overlooking something pretty obvious? Thanks, Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Aug 18 2:29: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from public.bta.net.cn (public.bta.net.cn [202.96.0.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 557FC37B423 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 02:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netrinsics.com([202.108.133.77]) by public.bta.net.cn(JetMail 2.5.3.0) with SMTP id jm18399d5c40; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:29:04 -0000 Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA51600; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:29:52 +0800 (+0800) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:29:52 +0800 (+0800) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <200008180929.RAA51600@netrinsics.com> To: nate@yogotech.com Subject: RE: State of Server-Side Java Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200008180640.AAA25895@nomad.yogotech.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> This may go without saying, but it's probably a good idea to do as much >> as possible with typescript running. For posterity. > >Given the fact that I'm not allowed to share how the tests work or my >results (other than YES/NO) or how it all works due to licensing, I'm >not sure why... I envision a sequence of events that goes something like this: 1. Figure out how to get test t[n] to work. 2. Test t[n] fails. 3. Repeat steps 1, 2 for t[n], t[m], t[o] ... 4. Identify bug causing failure of t[n], t[m], t[o] ... 5. Some time later, Greg fixes bug. Now, my guess is, with multiple thousands of tests, at this point, you'll either a) repeat step 1, or b) consult your typescripts. Of course, there are better forms of documentation than typescripts, but none as painless. 6. Test n passes. 7. Some time later, Greg adds, e.g., native kernel threads. Now, at this point it would be really nice to have a bunch of shell scripts that run the whole suite automatically (sort of like "make world"), so that every time someone touches something, you don't have to start at step 1 again. That is to say, a regression test. Typescripts are an excellent starting point for developing these kinds of scripts. Of course, the big fly in the ointment is all the AWT/Swing stuff that probably can't be scripted easily. Your license probably doesn't even allow you to say what percent of the tests require human interaction. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Aug 18 9:17:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB70637B422 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JT4I9CI8WG000AMK@research.kpn.com> for freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 18:17:38 +0200 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 18:17:37 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 18:17:36 +0100 From: "Koster, K.J." Subject: JCK License implications (was: State of Server-Side Java) To: "'nate@yogotech.com'" Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D77C9@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Given the fact that I'm not allowed to share how the tests > work or my results (other than YES/NO) or how it all works > due to licensing, I'm not sure why... > Future discussion on -java: Nate: fourteen bugs to go! us: Yay! What's the error message? Nate: Sorry, but that I cannot disclose. Licensing, you see. us: Could we have a stacktrace then? Nate: Well, no. Licensing, you see. us: Euh, Ok. Is it in Swing, can I reproduce it with a demo? Nate: Can't say. Licensing, you see. Hardly a community effort. :-/ I never realised that access to JCK would condemn you to fixing all the bugs too, Nate. You'll let us know when it's all done, yes? Off you go, no time to waste. :-) Kees Jan ================================================= TV is the worst of both worlds. It's not as good at words as radio is because the pictures are a distraction which demand attention, and it's not as good as cinema because the pictures are not nearly as good. Douglas Adams To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Aug 18 9:49:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A7437B423 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09994; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:49:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28127; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:48:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:48:45 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008181648.KAA28127@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Koster, K.J." Cc: "'nate@yogotech.com'" , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: JCK License implications (was: State of Server-Side Java) In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D77C9@l04.research.kpn.com> References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D77C9@l04.research.kpn.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Given the fact that I'm not allowed to share how the tests > > work or my results (other than YES/NO) or how it all works > > due to licensing, I'm not sure why... > > Future discussion on -java: > > Nate: fourteen bugs to go! > us: Yay! What's the error message? > Nate: Sorry, but that I cannot disclose. Licensing, you see. > us: Could we have a stacktrace then? > Nate: Well, no. Licensing, you see. > us: Euh, Ok. Is it in Swing, can I reproduce it with a demo? > Nate: Can't say. Licensing, you see. > > Hardly a community effort. :-/ Not my choice. > I never realised that access to JCK would condemn you to fixing all the bugs > too, Nate. It'll condemn the bug fixing to those people on the porting team, which now consists of those folks who actually understand enough of the JDK to have submitted bug fixes and are interested in continuing to help. Basically, we need folks who are actively pursuing and *fixing* bugs, not just folks who are willing to beta test the product and just watch over our shoulders to see how we're doing. Having done this whole open-source/freeware thing for ~6 years, there are *always* lots of the latter, and few of the former. If you are interested in being on the porting team (which consists of mainly Greg and I at this point, although in the JDK1.1 days we had a number of other active contributors who have since quit working), we'd love to have you. However, in order to minimize the # of folks who have access to Sun's licensed materials, we have to show that these folks have a reason to be involved, other than just wanting to see the work in progress. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Aug 18 9:55:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B14837B424 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10101; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:55:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28170; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:54:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:54:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008181654.KAA28170@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Michael Robinson Cc: nate@yogotech.com, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: RE: State of Server-Side Java In-Reply-To: <200008180929.RAA51600@netrinsics.com> References: <200008180640.AAA25895@nomad.yogotech.com> <200008180929.RAA51600@netrinsics.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> This may go without saying, but it's probably a good idea to do as much > >> as possible with typescript running. For posterity. > > > >Given the fact that I'm not allowed to share how the tests work or my > >results (other than YES/NO) or how it all works due to licensing, I'm > >not sure why... > > I envision a sequence of events that goes something like this: > > 1. Figure out how to get test t[n] to work. > 2. Test t[n] fails. > 3. Repeat steps 1, 2 for t[n], t[m], t[o] ... > 4. Identify bug causing failure of t[n], t[m], t[o] ... > 5. Some time later, Greg fixes bug. Or someone else. You know, I'm capable of fixing bugs as well. :) :) > Now, my guess is, with multiple thousands of tests, at this point, you'll > either a) repeat step 1, or b) consult your typescripts. Of course, there > are better forms of documentation than typescripts, but none as painless. > > 6. Test n passes. > 7. Some time later, Greg adds, e.g., native kernel threads. > > Now, at this point it would be really nice to have a bunch of shell scripts > that run the whole suite automatically (sort of like "make world"), so that > every time someone touches something, you don't have to start at step 1 > again. It would be nice, but as I understand things, many/most of the tests are interactive, hence the nightmare in setting things up to run. All the environment must be setup exactly right, etc... Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Aug 18 18:55:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E3D37B422 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 18:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05209; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 11:24:36 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from glewis) From: Greg Lewis Message-Id: <200008190154.LAA05209@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: More on custom invokers for JDK In-Reply-To: from Max Khon at "Aug 11, 2000 04:55:30 pm" To: Max Khon Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 11:24:36 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL70 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Max Khon wrote: > hi, there! > > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Koster, K.J. wrote: > > > I've written up a little on what invokeNative_alpha.s and companions are > > really for. Critisism (this is a word?) and comments are welcome. > > > > http://web.inter.nl.net/users/kjkoster/java/index.html > > click on "invokeNative_alpha.s" under "Alpha Arch. Build". > > > > Mildly interesting look into how Java deals with native functions under > > water too, and I have again learned a little about C. > > gdb has generic function invoker written in C (look into valops.c) > > /fjoe True, but gdb is also GPL'ed, which makes any code from it unusable for the JDK. A good idea though. Anyone know if earlier debuggers (sdb and dbx come to mind) were Berkeley licensed or the like and where we'd find such source code? -- Greg Lewis glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au Computing Officer +61 8 8303 5083 Teletraffic Research Centre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Aug 18 19: 6:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E88537B422 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05271; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 11:36:23 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from glewis) From: Greg Lewis Message-Id: <200008190206.LAA05271@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: JCK License implications (was: State of Server-Side Java) In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D77C9@l04.research.kpn.com> from "Koster, K.J." at "Aug 18, 2000 06:17:36 pm" To: "Koster, K.J." Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 11:36:23 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL70 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Koster, K.J. wrote: > > Given the fact that I'm not allowed to share how the tests > > work or my results (other than YES/NO) or how it all works > > due to licensing, I'm not sure why... > > Nate: fourteen bugs to go! > us: Yay! What's the error message? > Nate: Sorry, but that I cannot disclose. Licensing, you see. > us: Could we have a stacktrace then? > Nate: Well, no. Licensing, you see. > us: Euh, Ok. Is it in Swing, can I reproduce it with a demo? > Nate: Can't say. Licensing, you see. > > Hardly a community effort. :-/ As Nate said, its not our choice. > I never realised that access to JCK would condemn you to fixing all the bugs > too, Nate. You'll let us know when it's all done, yes? Off you go, no time > to waste. :-) Well, it might be even worse than that. Its not clear to me that I'll still be able to release patchsets once we merge a newer version of the JDK 1.2.2 source code as that code will have been obtained under the same licensing conditions as the JCK. I'm considering how this can be avoided while still making progress on a binary release. I really don't want to lose the possibility of things like Fuyuhiko-san's native thread patches happening in the future. -- Greg Lewis glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au Computing Officer +61 8 8303 5083 Teletraffic Research Centre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message