From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 2: 4:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.ea4els.ampr.org (176-MADR-X25.libre.retevision.es [62.83.12.176]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7788B37B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phoenix.ea4els.ampr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA34839E for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 11:08:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 11:08:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Simon J Mudd To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make buildworld failing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I successfully cvsup'ed the source to stable on 17/09/00 and decided to upgrade to the latest version of -STABLE with cvsup. The cvsup command works fine, but make buildworld fails at the same place with the same error message: ----- SNIP ----- ===> gnu/libexec/uucp/uupick /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uupick created for /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uupick ===> gnu/libexec/uucp/uusched /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uusched created for /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uusched ===> gnu/libexec/uucp/uustat mkdir: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uustat: File exists *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uustat. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/libexec. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. unicorn# ----- END ----- Have I missed something obvious with what's goind wrong? Regards, Simon -- Simon J Mudd, Madrid SPAIN Tel: +34-91-408 4878 email: sjmudd@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 2:25:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9BD37B502 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA04265; Sun, 08 Oct 2000 02:25:05 -0700 Message-ID: <39E03D71.AC278983@urx.com> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 02:25:05 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon J Mudd Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make buildworld failing References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Simon J Mudd wrote: > > I successfully cvsup'ed the source to stable on 17/09/00 and decided > to upgrade to the latest version of -STABLE with cvsup. > > The cvsup command works fine, but make buildworld fails at the same place > with the same error message: I would remove /usr/obj/* before I try again. You will have to cd /usr/obj chflags -R noschg * rm -rf * There won't be anything left to have a file exist. Kent > > ----- SNIP ----- > ===> gnu/libexec/uucp/uupick > /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uupick created for /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uupick > ===> gnu/libexec/uucp/uusched > /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uusched created for /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uusched > ===> gnu/libexec/uucp/uustat > mkdir: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uustat: File exists > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uustat. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/libexec. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > unicorn# > ----- END ----- > > Have I missed something obvious with what's goind wrong? > > Regards, > > Simon > -- > Simon J Mudd, Madrid SPAIN Tel: +34-91-408 4878 email: sjmudd@pobox.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 2:59:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from irv1-mail2.intelenet.net (irv1-mail2.intelenet.net [204.182.160.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AC337B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nimba.intelenet.net (nimba.intelenet.net [207.38.65.93]) by irv1-mail2.intelenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17260 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nimba.intelenet.net (Postfix, from userid 1294) id C3EFF83C72; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:59:13 -0700 From: matthew zeier To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ipf vs. ipfw ? Message-ID: <20001008025913.A29388@intelenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can anyone tell me the differences between ipf and ipfw ? Which is "better" ? - mz -- matthew zeier - "There ain't no rules around here. We're trying to accomplish something." - Thomas Edison To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 3:50: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from admin.astroboy.org (admin.astroboy.org [203.37.46.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0719E37B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 03:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psycho ([192.168.1.3]) by admin.astroboy.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA09733 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:41:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from alias@admin.astroboy.org) Message-ID: <001201c0311d$4a67c0a0$0301a8c0@psycho> From: "alias" To: Subject: errors in buildworld Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:45:40 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hiya again Okay, I did a buildworld with -DNOPERL and it built it all. Though it did have some errors through it, but none that halted the process. Should I be worried about the errors in the compiling? Or is it safe enough do the make installworld like that? thanks mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 4:30: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.ninth-circle.org (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF34E37B66C for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 04:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.ninth-circle.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e98BTgn70358; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:29:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:29:42 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: alias Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: errors in buildworld Message-ID: <20001008132942.B69484@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <001201c0311d$4a67c0a0$0301a8c0@psycho> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001201c0311d$4a67c0a0$0301a8c0@psycho>; from alias@admin.astroboy.org on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 09:45:40PM +1000 Organisation: VIA Net.Works The Netherlands Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20001008 12:55], alias (alias@admin.astroboy.org) wrote: >Okay, I did a buildworld with -DNOPERL and it built it all. Though it did >have some errors through it, but none that halted the process. Should I be >worried about the errors in the compiling? Or is it safe enough do the make >installworld like that? I cannot say since you didn't bother to include the errors in your mail. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA Net.Works The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.via-net-works.nl Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 4:33: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.ea4els.ampr.org (116-MADR-X123.libre.retevision.es [62.83.18.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D316437B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 04:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phoenix.ea4els.ampr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EA383B2 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:36:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:36:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Simon J Mudd To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing In-Reply-To: <39E03D71.AC278983@urx.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Kent Stewart wrote: > I would remove /usr/obj/* before I try again. You will have to > cd /usr/obj > chflags -R noschg * > rm -rf * > > There won't be anything left to have a file exist. this indeed seems to be working make buildworld has been going for some time now, so all looks ok. Thanks, Simon -- Simon J Mudd, Madrid SPAIN Tel: +34-91-408 4878 email: sjmudd@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 4:40:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.ninth-circle.org (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB50637B66C for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 04:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.ninth-circle.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e98BeS570473 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:40:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:40:28 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Merges in to STABLE branches Message-ID: <20001008134028.C69484@lucifer.bart.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: VIA Net.Works The Netherlands Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, in the next days, weeks and months I hope to be able to do regular MFC's back onto the 4 and 3 STABLE branches with occasional 2.2 MFC's. Although I try to test each and every commit it may sometimes happen that something goes wrong, just look at the CPU_4 typo a few days ago [sigh]. I would appreciate it if people with compilation problems would inform me at my freebsd.org address [asmodai@freebsd.org] so that I spot them first thing. Of course I'll scan the stable list, but I might miss your post. Things on the current list are: - KAME - security/audit fixes - updates of contrib software if not too intrusive If people have requests within the STABLE MFC guidelines I am all ears for them. Thanks for your cooperation. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA Net.Works The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.via-net-works.nl Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 4:56:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FFB37B502; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 04:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca7-112.ix.netcom.com [209.109.235.112]) by blount.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07665; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 07:56:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e98BuGD84544; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 04:56:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami) To: current@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: CVSROOT avail References: <200010081150.EAA04996@freefall.freebsd.org> From: asami@FreeBSD.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 08 Oct 2000 04:56:13 -0700 In-Reply-To: Satoshi Asami's message of "Sun, 8 Oct 2000 04:50:45 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, it only took 17 hours. :) I tried my best to be careful but I'm sure there are some ports that broke as a result, so please be gentle! By the way, if you are expecting CVS to suddenly run faster, don't be disappointed by it running as slow as ever. The speedup will only come when the Attics are cleaned (a few months later) by the CVS meisters. -PW === From: Satoshi Asami Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 04:50:45 -0700 (PDT) X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch: HEAD asami 2000/10/08 04:50:45 PDT Modified files: . avail Log: The conversion is over. Revision Changes Path 1.128 +2 -2 CVSROOT/avail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 5:10:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [194.138.37.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D6037B66C for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 05:10:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer goliath.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e98CAEC02713; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:10:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e98CAD907415; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:10:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e98CADg04486; Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:10:13 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Andre.Albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de Subject: Re: Merges in to STABLE branches Message-ID: <20001008141013.A41911@curry.mchp.siemens.de> References: <20001008134028.C69484@lucifer.bart.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001008134028.C69484@lucifer.bart.nl>; from jruigrok@via-net-works.nl on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 01:40:28PM +0200 X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 08-Oct-2000 at 13:40:28 +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > Hi, > > in the next days, weeks and months I hope to be able to do regular MFC's > back onto the 4 and 3 STABLE branches with occasional 2.2 MFC's. great. > Although I try to test each and every commit it may sometimes happen > that something goes wrong, just look at the CPU_4 typo a few days ago > [sigh]. > I would appreciate it if people with compilation problems would inform > me at my freebsd.org address [asmodai@freebsd.org] so that I spot them > first thing. Of course I'll scan the stable list, but I might miss your > post. > > Things on the current list are: > > - KAME > - security/audit fixes > - updates of contrib software if not too intrusive Well, thanks to Cy Schubert for his hints, I manually upgraded ipfilter from 3.4.8 to 3.4.10 in -STABLE. Now the ftp proxy works again so I am really interested in seeing it here. Unfortunatley, even -current got 3.4.9 only at the moment. -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 5:22:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ldc.ro (ldc-gw.pub.ro [192.129.3.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E8C1937B66C for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 05:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 86880 invoked by uid 666); 8 Oct 2000 12:22:04 -0000 Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:22:04 +0300 From: Alex Popa To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: moh_php4 not compiling, failing at config Message-ID: <20001008152204.A86778@ldc.ro> References: <20001005202213.A9631@ldc.ro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001005202213.A9631@ldc.ro>; from razor@ldc.ro on Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 08:22:13PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 08:22:13PM +0300, Alex Popa wrote: > I am trying to compile php4 on a FreeBSD -stable, cvsupped last night, > and compiled today, with ports collection cvsupped some one hour ago. > > Also, since I think it should compile (-kthread appears in cc's > manpage), I cc'd this to -stable as well as -ports. > Sorry for the messge, but just as a warning to others: please DO NOT `chmod 0 /usr/local/sbin/httpd' while compiling mod_php4! I admit, it was stupid. ------------+------------------------------------------ Alex Popa, | "Artificial Intelligence is razor@ldc.ro| no match for Natural Stupidity" ------------+------------------------------------------ "It took the computing power of three C-64s to fly to the Moon. It takes a 486 to run Windows 95. Something is wrong here." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 5:39:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5678C37B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 05:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.255.96.69]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20001008123941.MYIT19246.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:39:41 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e98CNCv01326; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:23:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:23:12 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Kent Stewart Cc: Simon J Mudd , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing Message-ID: <20001008132312.A253@parish> References: <39E03D71.AC278983@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39E03D71.AC278983@urx.com>; from kstewart@urx.com on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 02:25:05AM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 02:25:05AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Simon J Mudd wrote: > > > > I successfully cvsup'ed the source to stable on 17/09/00 and decided > > to upgrade to the latest version of -STABLE with cvsup. > > > > The cvsup command works fine, but make buildworld fails at the same place > > with the same error message: > > I would remove /usr/obj/* before I try again. You will have to > cd /usr/obj > chflags -R noschg * > rm -rf * > cd /usr/obj rm -rf * chflags -R noschg * rm -rf * should be quicker as chflags(1) won't have to test every file (99% of which won't have the schg flag set). > There won't be anything left to have a file exist. > > Kent > > > > > ----- SNIP ----- > > ===> gnu/libexec/uucp/uupick > > /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uupick created for /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uupick > > ===> gnu/libexec/uucp/uusched > > /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uusched created for /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uusched > > ===> gnu/libexec/uucp/uustat > > mkdir: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uustat: File exists > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uustat. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/libexec. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > unicorn# > > ----- END ----- > > > > Have I missed something obvious with what's goind wrong? > > > > Regards, > > > > Simon > > -- > > Simon J Mudd, Madrid SPAIN Tel: +34-91-408 4878 email: sjmudd@pobox.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 6:39:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB5C37B502; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 06:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13iGfS-000AI1-00; Sun, 08 Oct 2000 13:39:06 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e98DfBE97180; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:41:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:41:11 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Mark Ovens Cc: Kent Stewart , Simon J Mudd , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing Message-ID: <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl> References: <39E03D71.AC278983@urx.com> <20001008132312.A253@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001008132312.A253@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 01:23:12PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 01:23:12PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 02:25:05AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > > Simon J Mudd wrote: > > > > > > I successfully cvsup'ed the source to stable on 17/09/00 and decided > > > to upgrade to the latest version of -STABLE with cvsup. > > > > > > The cvsup command works fine, but make buildworld fails at the same place > > > with the same error message: > > > > I would remove /usr/obj/* before I try again. You will have to > > cd /usr/obj > > chflags -R noschg * > > rm -rf * > > > > cd /usr/obj > rm -rf * > chflags -R noschg * > rm -rf * > > should be quicker as chflags(1) won't have to test every file (99% of which > won't have the schg flag set). To be honest I'm puzzled as to the usefulness of noschg in the first place. People already having root privs are not stopped by it. Or is it only aimed at the higher securelevels? -- Wilko Bulte wilko@freebsd.org Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 6:49:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B944C37B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 06:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.253.88.164]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20001008134919.NEPV19246.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:49:19 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e98DnAt01607; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:49:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:49:09 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Kent Stewart , Simon J Mudd , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing Message-ID: <20001008144909.D253@parish> References: <39E03D71.AC278983@urx.com> <20001008132312.A253@parish> <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl>; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 03:41:11PM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 03:41:11PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 01:23:12PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 02:25:05AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > > > > > Simon J Mudd wrote: > > > > > > > > I successfully cvsup'ed the source to stable on 17/09/00 and decided > > > > to upgrade to the latest version of -STABLE with cvsup. > > > > > > > > The cvsup command works fine, but make buildworld fails at the same place > > > > with the same error message: > > > > > > I would remove /usr/obj/* before I try again. You will have to > > > cd /usr/obj > > > chflags -R noschg * > > > rm -rf * > > > > > > > cd /usr/obj > > rm -rf * > > chflags -R noschg * > > rm -rf * > > > > should be quicker as chflags(1) won't have to test every file (99% of which > > won't have the schg flag set). > > To be honest I'm puzzled as to the usefulness of noschg in the first place. > People already having root privs are not stopped by it. Oh yes they are: /tmp # touch foobar /tmp # chflags schg foobar /tmp # ls -lo foobar -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel schg 0 8 Oct 14:46 foobar /tmp # rm foobar override rw-r--r-- root/wheel schg for foobar? y rm: foobar: Operation not permitted /tmp # rm -f foobar rm: foobar: Operation not permitted /tmp # whoami root /tmp # > Or is it only aimed > at the higher securelevels? > > -- > Wilko Bulte > wilko@freebsd.org Arnhem, the Netherlands -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 6:59:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F5B37B503; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 06:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13iGyo-000AVr-00; Sun, 08 Oct 2000 13:59:06 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e98E1B397400; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:01:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:01:11 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Mark Ovens Cc: Kent Stewart , Simon J Mudd , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing Message-ID: <20001008160111.A97340@freebie.demon.nl> References: <39E03D71.AC278983@urx.com> <20001008132312.A253@parish> <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl> <20001008144909.D253@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001008144909.D253@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 02:49:09PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 02:49:09PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 03:41:11PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 01:23:12PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 02:25:05AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: ... > > > should be quicker as chflags(1) won't have to test every file (99% of which > > > won't have the schg flag set). > > > > To be honest I'm puzzled as to the usefulness of noschg in the first place. > > People already having root privs are not stopped by it. > > Oh yes they are: I'm familiar with the behaviour below. But I classify it as annoying, if root is too dim to be careful then... Wilko > /tmp # touch foobar > /tmp # chflags schg foobar > /tmp # ls -lo foobar > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel schg 0 8 Oct 14:46 foobar > /tmp # rm foobar > override rw-r--r-- root/wheel schg for foobar? y > rm: foobar: Operation not permitted > /tmp # rm -f foobar > rm: foobar: Operation not permitted > /tmp # whoami > root > /tmp # -- Wilko Bulte wilko@freebsd.org Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 7:17:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCDE37B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 07:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp16466029.columbus.rr.com [24.164.66.29]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19780 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 10:16:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39E08323.A84B7BB0@columbus.rr.com> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 10:22:27 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make buildworld failing References: <39E03D71.AC278983@urx.com> <20001008132312.A253@parish> <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl> <20001008144909.D253@parish> <20001008160111.A97340@freebie.demon.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wilko Bulte wrote: > I'm familiar with the behaviour below. But I classify it as annoying, > if root is too dim to be careful then... > > Wilko That's an interesting take on things. Personally, I find it comforting to have a fallback mechanism to prevent me from doing stupid things when I'm trying to fix a frustrating problem with little sleep to help me. Careful as you may be, personally I'm still human. It's probably a mute point, though. Isn't this behaviour mandated by POSIX? On another note ... why does `make world' put the immutable tag on object files during a build? There may be an excellent reason, but I'm somewhat confused by it. -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 7:25: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8CC37B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 07:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1DFEDA842; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 01:25:02 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C9D5457; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:25:02 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:25:02 +1000 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing In-Reply-To: <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl> Message-ID: X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > People already having root privs are not stopped by it. Or is it only aimed > at the higher securelevels? I assume its for secure levels 1 and above and if you were a security conscious site I imagine it would be a very useful feature. Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 7:31: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D3137B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 07:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [212.126.143.160] (helo=viewport.clara.co.uk) by oracle.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #5) id 13iHTa-000EuC-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Oct 2000 15:30:55 +0100 Content-Length: 1838 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-No-Archive: yes Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 15:30:51 +0100 (BST) Organization: David_Marsh@home: see signature for organisation From: David Marsh To: FreeBSD-Stable LIST Subject: RE: make buildworld errors when upgrading 3.2R -> RELENG_3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 07-Oct-00 David Marsh wrote: > > Following advice given a few days ago, I changed from trying to upgrade > from 3.2R to RELENG_4 in one fell swoop, and and now first trying to > upgrade to RELENG_3 before making the leap to RELENG_4. > > I have now cvsup'ed the RELENG_3 sources, and am now attempting to make > buildworld. [details of my various attempts to buildworld failing..] Weird. I gave buildworld one last try, as I said I would.. This time I dropped down into single-user mode. (The Handbook did say that it was possible to do the 'buildworld' part while the system was running as normal [1], but I thought I might as well play safe this time). [1] I thought that was the whole point of usenet: so that you could catch up with your news while a major compile was chugging along in the background.. ;-) What do you know, this time it worked OK! Rather strange that my system can't cope with a huge compile if other things are happening, but there you go.. So I have now managed to upgrade to 3.5-STABLE, part one of my plan has worked.. Now for the hard(er) part, transitioning to 4.x.. I have no particular desire to be right on the cutting-edge (and it seems from the list that a few things have happened to -stable recently that have given some people some problems). Should I just cvsup up to 4.1-RELEASE, or is it reasonably straightforward/safe to upgrade right up to 4.x-STABLE? My main reason for upgrading (other than just to keep /reasonably/ up to date, is to get my soundcard working (SoundBlaster 16 PCI) and I understand that 4.x has the drivers to do this.. David. -- David Marsh,drmarsh@bigfoot.com | http://www.viewport.co.uk/ | Glasgow, Scotland. | If urgent, phone: +44 77-121-848-90 | >Trim quotes b4 replying; Quote 1st, reply 2nd; Ask b4 attaching files< To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 7:37:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A379C37B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 07:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.255.97.66]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20001008143713.GDOX13676.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:37:13 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e98Eb7102527; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:37:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:37:06 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Bill Moran Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing Message-ID: <20001008153706.E253@parish> References: <39E03D71.AC278983@urx.com> <20001008132312.A253@parish> <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl> <20001008144909.D253@parish> <20001008160111.A97340@freebie.demon.nl> <39E08323.A84B7BB0@columbus.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39E08323.A84B7BB0@columbus.rr.com>; from wmoran@columbus.rr.com on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 10:22:27AM -0400 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 10:22:27AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > I'm familiar with the behaviour below. But I classify it as annoying, > > if root is too dim to be careful then... > > > > Wilko > > That's an interesting take on things. Personally, I find it comforting > to have a fallback mechanism to prevent me from doing stupid things > when I'm trying to fix a frustrating problem with little sleep to help > me. > Careful as you may be, personally I'm still human. > > It's probably a mute point, though. Isn't this behaviour mandated by > POSIX? > > On another note ... why does `make world' put the immutable tag on > object files during a build? There may be an excellent reason, but I'm > somewhat confused by it. > I'm not so sure it does anymore. The last couple of make world's I've done in -STABLE have not required a chflags to remove the obj directory afterwards. > -Bill > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 7:38:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9242737B66C for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 07:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.255.97.66]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20001008143830.GDSC13676.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:38:30 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e98EcNY02539; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:38:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:38:23 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Kent Stewart , Simon J Mudd , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing Message-ID: <20001008153823.F253@parish> References: <39E03D71.AC278983@urx.com> <20001008132312.A253@parish> <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl> <20001008144909.D253@parish> <20001008160111.A97340@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001008160111.A97340@freebie.demon.nl>; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 04:01:11PM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 04:01:11PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 02:49:09PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 03:41:11PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 01:23:12PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > > > On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 02:25:05AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > ... > > > > > should be quicker as chflags(1) won't have to test every file (99% of which > > > > won't have the schg flag set). > > > > > > To be honest I'm puzzled as to the usefulness of noschg in the first place. > > > People already having root privs are not stopped by it. > > > > Oh yes they are: > > I'm familiar with the behaviour below. But I classify it as annoying, > if root is too dim to be careful then... Ah right, I misunderstood you; I interpreted "People already having root privs are not stopped by it" as meaning the schg flag was ignored by rm(1) if you were root. > > Wilko > > > /tmp # touch foobar > > /tmp # chflags schg foobar > > /tmp # ls -lo foobar > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel schg 0 8 Oct 14:46 foobar > > /tmp # rm foobar > > override rw-r--r-- root/wheel schg for foobar? y > > rm: foobar: Operation not permitted > > /tmp # rm -f foobar > > rm: foobar: Operation not permitted > > /tmp # whoami > > root > > /tmp # > > -- > Wilko Bulte > wilko@freebsd.org Arnhem, the Netherlands > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 8: 4:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-4.sjc.telocity.net (mail-4.sjc.telocity.net [216.227.56.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C956637B502 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 08:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from packfan (dsl-64-34-45-85.telocity.com [64.34.45.85]) by mail-4.sjc.telocity.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA14094 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 08:02:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian Ellefson" To: "Freebsd-Stable" Subject: Crashes in 4.1.1 Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 10:03:25 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am getting crashes on my system, where I didn't get them before going from 4.1 Release to 4.1.1 stable. I get this message: ahc0: ahc_intr - referenced scb not valid during SELTO scb(9, 32) I get another message when it finally gets some sort of signal. I am not sure what signal it is sending, since these messages scroll it off the screen in about 1 second. If there is any other info needed please let me know. Thanks in advance, Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 9:48: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9160537B503; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 09:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04825; Sun, 08 Oct 2000 09:48:03 -0700 Message-ID: <39E0A543.971488AD@urx.com> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 09:48:03 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Ovens Cc: Simon J Mudd , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing References: <39E03D71.AC278983@urx.com> <20001008132312.A253@parish> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 02:25:05AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > > Simon J Mudd wrote: > > > > > > I successfully cvsup'ed the source to stable on 17/09/00 and decided > > > to upgrade to the latest version of -STABLE with cvsup. > > > > > > The cvsup command works fine, but make buildworld fails at the same place > > > with the same error message: > > > > I would remove /usr/obj/* before I try again. You will have to > > cd /usr/obj > > chflags -R noschg * > > rm -rf * > > > > cd /usr/obj > rm -rf * > chflags -R noschg * > rm -rf * > > should be quicker as chflags(1) won't have to test every file (99% of which > won't have the schg flag set). The percentage is much higher. I think there are only 4 files that need the flags changed. I have done it both ways but this time I was tired and I copied it from the handbook. I didn't take the time to add the second rm. It would be a good line to add to section 18.4.5. Kent > > > There won't be anything left to have a file exist. > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > ----- SNIP ----- > > > ===> gnu/libexec/uucp/uupick > > > /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uupick created for /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uupick > > > ===> gnu/libexec/uucp/uusched > > > /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uusched created for /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uusched > > > ===> gnu/libexec/uucp/uustat > > > mkdir: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uustat: File exists > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uustat. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/libexec. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > unicorn# > > > ----- END ----- > > > > > > Have I missed something obvious with what's goind wrong? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Simon > > > -- > > > Simon J Mudd, Madrid SPAIN Tel: +34-91-408 4878 email: sjmudd@pobox.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > > > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html > > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > 4.4 - The number of the Beastie > ________________________________________________________________ > 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark > mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 11: 7:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.packetdesign.com (dns.PACKETDESIGN.NET [216.15.46.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD6137B502 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 11:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (main-fw-eth1.packetdesign.com [192.168.0.254]) by mailman.packetdesign.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e98I6xQ38311; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 11:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from haoboy@packetdesign.com) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 11:07:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Haobo Yu X-Sender: haoboy@C646209-A.enclv-mdu1.sfba.home.com To: alias Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Buildworld for 3.xR to 4.x stable In-Reply-To: <003e01c03067$4da1fbc0$0301a8c0@psycho> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You can either follow Ralf Engelschall's suggestion, as enclosed, or upgrade to 4.0 release as said in UPDATING, then to 4.1 stable. - Haobo From rse@engelschall.com Sun Oct 8 11:05:25 2000 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:22:32 +0200 From: Ralf S. Engelschall To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: [PROCEDURE] Successful 3.5-S to 4.1-S upgrade This week we've moved all of our 3.5-STABLE boxes to 4.1-STABLE. As others already determined, the steps in /usr/src/UPDATING are not sufficient for a successful and smooth upgrade. While we upgraded machine after machine this week, we had to adjust and enhance our upgrade procedure many times. Now that all of our machines were successfully upgraded, I want to share our experiences with you by forwarding you our last version of the procedure. I'm sure some steps can be simplified or perhaps even left out, but I did not care very much about optimizations or speedups. For us it was just important that the upgrade worked correctly. And that's the case with the above steps. I hope this procedure can help you a little bit in upgrading your boxes, too. Yours, Ralf S. Engelschall rse@engelschall.com www.engelschall.com Upgrading from FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE to FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE Ralf S. Engelschall , August 2000 ======================================================= o boot the old FreeBSD 3.x in multi-user mode o provide a particular build environment $ vi /etc/make.conf NOPERL=true # else Perl would fail to build under 3.x initially NOPROFILE=true # to speed up building MAKE_RSAINTL=YES # for non-US USA_RESIDENT=NO # dito. CFLAGS=-O -pipe # standard optimization COPTFLAGS=-O -pipe # dito. COMPAT1X=yes # install compatibility libraries COMPAT20=yes # dito. COMPAT21=yes # dito. COMPAT22=yes # dito. COMPAT3X=yes # dito. o provide boot-strapping run-time environment $ mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc $ ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc o build the world initially (still under FreeBSD 3.x run-time) $ cd /usr/obj $ chflags -R noschg * $ rm -rf * $ cd /usr/src $ make buildworld o build and install new GENERIC kernel+modules $ make buildkernel KERNEL=GENERIC $ make installkernel KERNEL=GENERIC $ chflags noschg /kernel.GENERIC /GENERIC $ mv /kernel.GENERIC /kernel.GENERIC.3 $ mv /GENERIC /kernel.GENERIC $ chflags schg /kernel.GENERIC o upgrade FOO kernel config from 3.x to 4.x $ vi /sys/i386/conf/FOO - remove "config kernel ...", "bio", "tty", "net", "conflicts" - remove unnecessary quotations - remove "pnp" device - remove "acd0" device - remove obsolete options (check output of "config FOO") - replace some "xxx0" with "xxx" (compare LINT for details) - replace "controller" & "disk" with "device" - replace "wdc0" with "ata0" plus more "ata*" from GENERIC - replace "bpfilter" with "bpf" - replace "isa?" with "atkbdc?" for "atkbd0" and "psm0" device o build and install new FOO kernel+modules $ make buildkernel KERNEL=FOO $ make installkernel KERNEL=FOO $ chflags noschg /kernel /FOO $ mv /kernel /kernel.3 $ mv /FOO /kernel $ chflags schg /kernel o upgrade devices $ cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod && make install $ cp /usr/src/etc/MAKEDEV* /dev $ cd /dev $ sh MAKEDEV all - make sure really all devices for disks exists: for N in the list of disks sh MAKEDEV N # eg ad0 for M in the list of slices sh MAKEDEV NsMa # eg ad0s1a - edit /etc/fstab and replace "wd0" with "ad0" o upgrade boot blocks and loader $ cd /sys/boot && make install o boot FreeBSD 4.x kernel (still with 3.x user-land) in single-user mode $ shutdown -r now > boot -s $ mount -a o install the world $ cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info $ make install $ ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc $ cd /usr/src $ make installworld $ cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall && make all install o upgrade /etc $ cp -rp /etc /etc.old $ mergemaster -v -s o final adjustments for new FreeBSD 4.x user-land $ touch /var/log/security $ touch /var/log/cron $ rm /var/cron/log* o switch to new shipped OpenSSH [OPTIONAL!] $ ssh-keygen -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key $ ssh-keygen -d -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key $ vi /etc/rc.conf sshd_enable="YES" $ pkg_delete ssh-1.2.27 o boot FreeBSD 4.x kernel and user-land in multi-user mode $ shutdown -r now o rebuild some criticial programs to avoid spurious segfaults under the forthcoming final "buildworld/installworld" step $ vi /etc/make.conf #NOPERL=true $ cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl $ (cd libperl && make all install) $ (cd perl && make all install) $ make clean all install $ cd /usr/src/usr.bin/lex && make clean all install $ cd /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc && make clean all install $ cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/as && make clean all install $ cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc && make clean all install $ cd /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc && make clean all install o build and install the world finally from scratch (under FreeBSD 4.x run-time) $ cd /usr/obj $ chflags -R noschg * $ rm -rf * $ cd /usr/src $ make buildworld $ make installworld o rebuild the kernel with the final tools $ cd /sys/i386/conf $ config FOO $ cd /sys/compile/FOO $ make depend all $ make install o reboot to switch to the final FreeBSD 4.x system $ shutdown -r now To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 11:52:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EEA937B66D for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 11:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.9.3/8.9.2/SNNS-1.02) id NAA02651; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:52:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <200010081852.NAA02651@aurora.sol.net> Subject: vinum with many disks on 4.1.1R To: stable@freebsd.org, grog@lemis.com Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:52:11 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got a large number of disks set up on an ASUS CUR-DLS, with three Adaptec 2940U2W's and two 39160's, two PIII-700's, and a gig of RAM. The disks are wired, by config, such that "da49" is device 9 on scbus 4. I've a vinum config file that merely tries to reference all the drives. It will panic the system. (The file listed below does not.) Now, I did notice that at da32, the major/minor numbering seems to change a bit: # ls -al /dev/da3{1,2}s1e crw-r----- 2 root operator 13, 0x000200fc Oct 8 00:38 /dev/da31s1e crw-r----- 2 root operator 13, 0x00220004 Oct 8 00:38 /dev/da32s1e and it just seems real funny that this is the point at which I run into problems. With da32 commented out: # vinum vinum -> vinum -> resetconfig WARNING! This command will completely wipe out your vinum configuration. All data will be lost. If you really want to do this, enter the text NO FUTURE Enter text -> NO FUTURE Oct 8 13:41:43 bins1-nwblwi /kernel: vinum: CONFIGURATION OBLITERATED Vinum configuration obliterated vinum -> create -f /etc/vinum.cfg [....] D 30 State: up Device /dev/da30s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 31 State: up Device /dev/da31s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) 0 volumes: 0 plexes: 0 subdisks: vinum -> Now, with da32 listed: vinum -> resetconfig WARNING! This command will completely wipe out your vinum configuration. All data will be lost. If you really want to do this, enter the text NO FUTURE Enter text -> NO FUTURE Vinum configuration obliterated vinum -> create -f /etc/vinum.cfg 23: drive 32 device /dev/da32s1e ** 23 : Invalid argument 20 drives: D 10 State: up Device /dev/da10s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 11 State: up Device /dev/da11s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 12 State: up Device /dev/da12s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 13 State: up Device /dev/da13s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 14 State: up Device /dev/da14s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 15 State: up Device /dev/da15s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 16 State: up Device /dev/da16s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 18 State: up Device /dev/da18s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 19 State: up Device /dev/da19s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 20 State: up Device /dev/da20s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 21 State: up Device /dev/da21s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 22 State: up Device /dev/da22s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 23 State: up Device /dev/da23s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 24 State: up Device /dev/da24s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 25 State: up Device /dev/da25s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 26 State: up Device /dev/da26s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 28 State: up Device /dev/da28s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 29 State: up Device /dev/da29s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 30 State: up Device /dev/da30s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 31 State: up Device /dev/da31s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 32 State: referenced Device /dev/da32s1e Avail: 0/0 MB 0 volumes: 0 plexes: 0 subdisks: vinum -> da33 being added results in slightly different: Vinum configuration obliterated vinum -> create -f /etc/vinum.cfg 23: drive 32 device /dev/da32s1e ** 23 : Invalid argument 24: drive 33 device /dev/da33s1e ** 24 Can't initialize drive 33: Device not configured 20 drives: [....] D 31 State: up Device /dev/da31s1e Avail: 70001/70001 MB (100%) D 32 State: referenced Device /dev/da32s1e Avail: 0/0 MB D 33 State: down Device /dev/da33s1e Avail: 0/0 MB 0 volumes: 0 plexes: 0 subdisks: vinum -> But it is quite clearly full of it: # dd if=/dev/da32s1e of=/dev/null bs=65536 count=512 512+0 records in 512+0 records out 33554432 bytes transferred in 0.960588 secs (34931139 bytes/sec) # ^32^33 dd if=/dev/da33s1e of=/dev/null bs=65536 count=512 512+0 records in 512+0 records out 33554432 bytes transferred in 0.960558 secs (34932231 bytes/sec) The damn drives are there and configured. As are they all. Uncomment da34-39. Pouf. Serial console reports: Oct 8 13:50:39 bins1-nwblwi /kernel: vinum: CONFIGURATION OBLITERATED Oct 8 13:50:45 bins1-nwblwi /kernel: vinum: drive 10 is up Oct 8 13:50:45 bins1-nwblwi /kernel: vinum: drive 11 is up rnel: vinum: dribins1-nwblwi /ke ve 12 is up Oct 8 13:50:45 bins1-nwblwi /keFrnel: vinum: driave 13 is up Octt 8 13:50:45 bians1-nwblwi /kernlel: vinum: drive 14 is up Oct t 8 13:50:45 binsr1-nwblwi /kernela: vinum: drive 1p5 is up Oct 8 13:50:45 bins1-1nwblwi /kernel: 2vinum: drive 16 :is up Oct 8 1 3:50:45 bins1-nwpblwi /kernel: vianum: drive 18 isg up Oct 8 13:e50:45 bins1-nwbl wi /kernel: vinufm: drive 19 is uap ct 8 13:50u:45 bins1-nwblwil /kernel: vinum:t drive 20 is up Oct 8 13:50:4w5 bins1-nwblwi /hkernel: vinum: dirive 21 is up lOct 8 13:50:45 ebins1-nwblwi /ke rnel: vinum: driive 22 is up Ocnt 8 13:50:45 bi ns1-nwblwi /kernkel: vinum: drivee 23 is up rnel mode fault virtual address = 0x28 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc6b63954 stack pointer = 0x10:0xe6028d14 frame pointer = 0x10:0xe6028d28 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 6499 (vinum) interrupt mask = none trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... 20 19 11 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 giving up on 1 buffers Uptime: 1h41m57s Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Rebooting... ---- Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE #1: Sun Oct 8 01:22:05 CDT 2000 root@XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (701.60-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x683 Stepping = 3 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 1073721344 (1048556K bytes) avail memory = 1042305024 (1017876K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02e6000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x1229) at 2.0 irq 14 pcib1: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 de0: port 0xc800-0xc87f mem 0xfd000000-0xfd00007f irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci1 de0: SMC 9332BDT 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 de0: address 00:e0:29:3c:77:00 de1: port 0xc400-0xc47f mem 0xfc800000-0xfc80007f irq 9 at device 5.0 on pci1 de1: SMC 9332BDT 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 de1: address 00:e0:29:3c:77:01 ahc0: port 0xb800-0xb8ff mem 0xfc000000-0xfc000fff irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci0 aic7890/91: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0xb400-0xb4ff mem 0xfb800000-0xfb800fff irq 12 at device 5.0 on pci0 aic7890/91: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc2: port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xfb000000-0xfb000fff irq 15 at device 6.0 on pci0 aic7890/91: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs pci0: at 7.0 isab0: at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 15.1 pci0: at 15.2 irq 9 pcib2: on motherboard pci2: on pcib2 ahc3: port 0xa000-0xa0ff mem 0xf8800000-0xf8800fff irq 7 at device 2.0 on pci2 aic7899: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc4: port 0x9800-0x98ff mem 0xf8000000-0xf8000fff irq 9 at device 2.1 on pci2 aic7899: Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc5: port 0x9400-0x94ff mem 0xf7800000-0xf7800fff irq 5 at device 3.0 on pci2 aic7899: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc6: port 0x9000-0x90ff mem 0xf7000000-0xf7000fff irq 9 at device 3.1 on pci2 aic7899: Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs sym0: <896> port 0x8800-0x88ff mem 0xf6000000-0xf6001fff,0xf6800000-0xf68003ff irq 9 at device 5.0 on pci2 sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym0: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS. sym1: <896> port 0x8400-0x84ff mem 0xf5000000-0xf5001fff,0xf5800000-0xf58003ff irq 9 at device 5.1 on pci2 sym1: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking sym1: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym1: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym1: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS. fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x100> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: parallel port not found. IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. (noperiph:sym1:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. de0: enabling 100baseTX port da70 at ahc5 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da70: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da70: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da70: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da71 at ahc5 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da71: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da71: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da71: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da72 at ahc5 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da72: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da72: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da72: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da73 at ahc5 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da73: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da73: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da73: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da74 at ahc5 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da74: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da74: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da74: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da75 at ahc5 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 da75: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da75: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da75: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da76 at ahc5 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da76: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da76: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da76: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da50 at ahc3 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da50: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da50: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da50: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da51 at ahc3 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da51: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da51: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da51: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da52 at ahc3 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da52: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da52: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da52: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da53 at ahc3 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da53: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da53: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da53: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da54 at ahc3 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da54: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da54: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da54: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da55 at ahc3 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 da55: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da55: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da55: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da56 at ahc3 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da56: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da56: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da56: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da58 at ahc3 bus 0 target 8 lun 0 da58: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da58: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da58: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da59 at ahc3 bus 0 target 9 lun 0 da59: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da59: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da59: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da20 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da20: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da20: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da20: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da21 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da21: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da21: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da21: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da22 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da22: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da22: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da22: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da24 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da24: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da24: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da24: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da23 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da23: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da23: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da23: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da25 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 da25: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da25: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da25: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da26 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da26: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da26: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da26: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da28 at ahc0 bus 0 target 8 lun 0 da28: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da28: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da28: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da29 at ahc0 bus 0 target 9 lun 0 da29: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da29: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da29: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da30 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da30: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da30: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da30: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da31 at ahc1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da31: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da31: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da31: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da32 at ahc1 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da32: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da32: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da32: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da33 at ahc1 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da33: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da33: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da33: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da34 at ahc1 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da34: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da34: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da34: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da35 at ahc1 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 da35: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da35: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da35: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da36 at ahc1 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da36: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da36: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da36: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da38 at ahc1 bus 0 target 8 lun 0 da38: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da38: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da38: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da39 at ahc1 bus 0 target 9 lun 0 da39: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da39: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da39: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da40 at ahc2 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da40: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da40: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da40: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da41 at ahc2 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da41: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da41: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da41: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da42 at ahc2 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da42: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da42: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da42: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da43 at ahc2 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da43: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da43: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da43: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da44 at ahc2 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da44: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da44: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da44: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da45 at ahc2 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 da45: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da45: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da45: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da46 at ahc2 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da46: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da46: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da46: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da48 at ahc2 bus 0 target 8 lun 0 da48: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da48: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da48: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da49 at ahc2 bus 0 target 9 lun 0 da49: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da49: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da49: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da78 at ahc5 bus 0 target 8 lun 0 da78: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da78: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da78: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da79 at ahc5 bus 0 target 9 lun 0 da79: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da79: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da79: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da10 at sym1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da10: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da10: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da10: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da12 at sym1 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da12: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da12: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da12: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da11 at sym1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da11: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da11: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da11: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da15 at sym1 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 da15: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da15: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da15: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da14 at sym1 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da14: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da14: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da14: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da13 at sym1 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da13: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da13: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da13: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da16 at sym1 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da16: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da16: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da16: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da19 at sym1 bus 0 target 9 lun 0 da19: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da19: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da19: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da18 at sym1 bus 0 target 8 lun 0 da18: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da18: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da18: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8748MB (17916240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1115C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted de1: autosense failed: cable problem? de0: enabling 100baseTX port de0: enabling Full Duplex 100baseTX port de1: enabling 100baseTX port de1: enabling Full Duplex 100baseTX port ohci0: mem 0xf9000000-0xf9000fff irq 9 at device 15.2 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (unknown) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered ---- # # FEEDER_SMP -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/FEEDER_SMP,v 1.246.2.11 2000/09/22 10:01:48 nyan Exp $ machine i386 #cpu I386_CPU #cpu I486_CPU cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident FEEDER_SMP maxusers 128 #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support #options MFS #Memory Filesystem #options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device #options NFS #Network Filesystem #options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required #options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem #options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem #options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] #options SCSI_DELAY=5000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor #options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options NO_F00F_HACK options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print information about options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 #limit verbosity options MSGBUF_SIZE=131072 options SC_HISTORY_SIZE=1000 # number of history buffer lines #options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN #drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN #options TCP_RESTRICT_RST #restrict emission of TCP RST options NMBCLUSTERS=25088 # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs #options NBUS=4 # number of busses #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs device isa #device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # ATA and ATAPI devices #device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 #device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 #device ata #device atadisk # ATA disk drives #device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives #device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives #options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering #options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices # SCSI Controllers #device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family #device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T)) #device isp # Qlogic family #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic #device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40 # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when # both sym and ncr are configured #device adv0 at isa? #device adw #device bt0 at isa? #device aha0 at isa? #device aic0 at isa? # SCSI peripherals #device scbus # SCSI bus (required) #device da # Direct Access (disks) #device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) #device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device sym0 # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) device sym1 # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) device ahc0 # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device ahc1 # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device ahc2 # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device ahc3 # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device ahc4 # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device ahc5 # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device ahc6 # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device ahc7 # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device ahc8 # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device ahc9 # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device scbus0 at sym0 device scbus1 at sym1 device scbus2 at ahc0 device scbus3 at ahc1 device scbus4 at ahc2 device scbus5 at ahc3 device scbus6 at ahc4 device scbus7 at ahc5 device scbus8 at ahc6 device scbus9 at ahc7 device scbus10 at ahc8 device scbus11 at ahc9 device da0 at scbus0 target 0 device da1 at scbus0 target 1 device da2 at scbus0 target 2 device da3 at scbus0 target 3 device da4 at scbus0 target 4 device da5 at scbus0 target 5 device da6 at scbus0 target 6 device da8 at scbus0 target 8 device da9 at scbus0 target 9 device da10 at scbus1 target 0 device da11 at scbus1 target 1 device da12 at scbus1 target 2 device da13 at scbus1 target 3 device da14 at scbus1 target 4 device da15 at scbus1 target 5 device da16 at scbus1 target 6 device da18 at scbus1 target 8 device da19 at scbus1 target 9 device da20 at scbus2 target 0 device da21 at scbus2 target 1 device da22 at scbus2 target 2 device da23 at scbus2 target 3 device da24 at scbus2 target 4 device da25 at scbus2 target 5 device da26 at scbus2 target 6 device da28 at scbus2 target 8 device da29 at scbus2 target 9 device da30 at scbus3 target 0 device da31 at scbus3 target 1 device da32 at scbus3 target 2 device da33 at scbus3 target 3 device da34 at scbus3 target 4 device da35 at scbus3 target 5 device da36 at scbus3 target 6 device da38 at scbus3 target 8 device da39 at scbus3 target 9 device da40 at scbus4 target 0 device da41 at scbus4 target 1 device da42 at scbus4 target 2 device da43 at scbus4 target 3 device da44 at scbus4 target 4 device da45 at scbus4 target 5 device da46 at scbus4 target 6 device da48 at scbus4 target 8 device da49 at scbus4 target 9 device da50 at scbus5 target 0 device da51 at scbus5 target 1 device da52 at scbus5 target 2 device da53 at scbus5 target 3 device da54 at scbus5 target 4 device da55 at scbus5 target 5 device da56 at scbus5 target 6 device da58 at scbus5 target 8 device da59 at scbus5 target 9 device da60 at scbus6 target 0 device da61 at scbus6 target 1 device da62 at scbus6 target 2 device da63 at scbus6 target 3 device da64 at scbus6 target 4 device da65 at scbus6 target 5 device da66 at scbus6 target 6 device da68 at scbus6 target 8 device da69 at scbus6 target 9 device da70 at scbus7 target 0 device da71 at scbus7 target 1 device da72 at scbus7 target 2 device da73 at scbus7 target 3 device da74 at scbus7 target 4 device da75 at scbus7 target 5 device da76 at scbus7 target 6 device da78 at scbus7 target 8 device da79 at scbus7 target 9 device da80 at scbus8 target 0 device da81 at scbus8 target 1 device da82 at scbus8 target 2 device da83 at scbus8 target 3 device da84 at scbus8 target 4 device da85 at scbus8 target 5 device da86 at scbus8 target 6 device da88 at scbus8 target 8 device da89 at scbus8 target 9 device da90 at scbus9 target 0 device da91 at scbus9 target 1 device da92 at scbus9 target 2 device da93 at scbus9 target 3 device da94 at scbus9 target 4 device da95 at scbus9 target 5 device da96 at scbus9 target 6 device da98 at scbus9 target 8 device da99 at scbus9 target 9 device da100 at scbus10 target 0 device da101 at scbus10 target 1 device da102 at scbus10 target 2 device da103 at scbus10 target 3 device da104 at scbus10 target 4 device da105 at scbus10 target 5 device da106 at scbus10 target 6 device da108 at scbus10 target 8 device da109 at scbus10 target 9 device da110 at scbus11 target 0 device da111 at scbus11 target 1 device da112 at scbus11 target 2 device da113 at scbus11 target 3 device da114 at scbus11 target 4 device da115 at scbus11 target 5 device da116 at scbus11 target 6 device da118 at scbus11 target 8 device da119 at scbus11 target 9 # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem #device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID #device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options! # RAID controllers #device ida # Compaq Smart RAID #device amr # AMI MegaRAID #device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family #device twe # 3ware Escalade # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #device card #device pcic0 at isa? irq 10 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 #device pcic1 at isa? irq 11 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 #device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 #device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer #device plip # TCP/IP over parallel #device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da options ATM_CORE #core ATM protocol family options ATM_IP #IP over ATM support options ATM_SIGPVC #SIGPVC signalling manager #options ATM_SPANS #SPANS signalling manager #options ATM_UNI #UNI signalling manager device hea #Efficient ENI-155p ATM PCI device hfa #FORE PCA-200E ATM PCI # PCI Ethernet NICs. device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') #device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. device miibus # MII bus support device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes #device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 #device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') #device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 #device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) #device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device wb # Winbond W89C840F #device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device ex #device ep #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code. #device wi # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify # those paremeters here. #device an # Xircom Ethernet #device xe # The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c. #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0 #device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 #device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support #pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP #pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP #pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" #pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling #pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support #device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface #device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface #device usb # USB Bus (required) #device ugen # Generic #device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" #device ukbd # Keyboard #device ulpt # Printer #device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da #device ums # Mouse # USB Ethernet, requires mii #device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet #device cue # CATC USB ethernet #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet ---- #drive 1 device /dev/da1s1e #drive 2 device /dev/da2s1e drive 10 device /dev/da10s1e drive 11 device /dev/da11s1e drive 12 device /dev/da12s1e drive 13 device /dev/da13s1e drive 14 device /dev/da14s1e drive 15 device /dev/da15s1e drive 16 device /dev/da16s1e drive 18 device /dev/da18s1e drive 19 device /dev/da19s1e drive 20 device /dev/da20s1e drive 21 device /dev/da21s1e drive 22 device /dev/da22s1e drive 23 device /dev/da23s1e drive 24 device /dev/da24s1e drive 25 device /dev/da25s1e drive 26 device /dev/da26s1e drive 28 device /dev/da28s1e drive 29 device /dev/da29s1e drive 30 device /dev/da30s1e drive 31 device /dev/da31s1e #--#drive 32 device /dev/da32s1e #--#drive 33 device /dev/da33s1e #--#drive 34 device /dev/da34s1e #--#drive 35 device /dev/da35s1e #--#drive 36 device /dev/da36s1e #--#drive 38 device /dev/da38s1e #--#drive 39 device /dev/da39s1e #--#drive 40 device /dev/da40s1e #--#drive 41 device /dev/da41s1e #--#drive 42 device /dev/da42s1e #--#drive 43 device /dev/da43s1e #--#drive 44 device /dev/da44s1e #--#drive 45 device /dev/da45s1e #--#drive 46 device /dev/da46s1e #--#drive 48 device /dev/da48s1e #--#drive 49 device /dev/da49s1e #--#drive 50 device /dev/da50s1e #--#drive 51 device /dev/da51s1e #--#drive 52 device /dev/da52s1e #--#drive 53 device /dev/da53s1e #--#drive 54 device /dev/da54s1e #--#drive 55 device /dev/da55s1e #--#drive 56 device /dev/da56s1e #--#drive 58 device /dev/da58s1e #--#drive 59 device /dev/da59s1e #--##drive 60 device /dev/da60s1e #--##drive 61 device /dev/da61s1e #--##drive 62 device /dev/da62s1e #--##drive 63 device /dev/da63s1e #--##drive 64 device /dev/da64s1e #--##drive 65 device /dev/da65s1e #--##drive 66 device /dev/da66s1e #--##drive 68 device /dev/da68s1e #--##drive 69 device /dev/da69s1e #--#drive 70 device /dev/da70s1e #--#drive 71 device /dev/da71s1e #--#drive 72 device /dev/da72s1e #--#drive 73 device /dev/da73s1e #--#drive 74 device /dev/da74s1e #--#drive 75 device /dev/da75s1e #--#drive 76 device /dev/da76s1e #--#drive 78 device /dev/da78s1e #--#drive 79 device /dev/da79s1e -- ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 12:21:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843290.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB4037B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e98JLbn00668; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:21:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:21:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200010081921.e98JLbn00668@earth.backplane.com> To: Kirk McKusick Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Weird (possibly softupdates related) data loss on fsck/reboot Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We had building maintainance that turned off power longer then the UPS could handle and one of my machines went down. When it came back up it ran fsck and came up with a whole lot of "missing '.' in directory" (or something like that, I didn't record the fsck output unfortunately), and "directory corrupt" errors. It recovered around 128 files and four empty directories, all from /usr/ports, which it had disconnected due to believing the governing directories were corrupt. After the fsck the governing directories were present in the filesystem but empty. I looked at a recent 'dump' backup of /usr and restored it and the files were present in the dump, so the 'dump' program had no problem seeing them. I also looked at my cvsup logs and determined that some of the files in question had been cvsup'd weeks before the L0 dump I looked at, and that cvsup obviously saw the files in the live filesystem every time it ran in the last week since it didn't feel the need to update them. I cvsup /usr/ports daily. /usr is mounted with softupdates on. There was no filesystem activity at the time of the power failure. /usr on this machine is a 2G filesystem on a SCSI partition (nothing fancy). Very odd! I'm not sure what is going on, but since dump saw the files correctly and since the files were visible in the live filesystem prior to the power failure, I can only guess that 'fsck' somehow believed the directories were corrupt when they weren't (or at least, not so corrupt that dump would feel it had to blow away the whole directory!). I don't think this is buffer-cache related since the raw device and the live filesystem seemed to see a consistent view of the filesystem. I'll try to reproduce the problem in a week or two (by taking a dd copy of /usr and then taking the machine down hard). This is just a datapoint in case other people have had similar problems. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 13: 3:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DD837B66D for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13iMf8-0003yR-00; Sun, 08 Oct 2000 20:03:10 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e98K5FR99077; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:05:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:05:15 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Bill Moran Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing Message-ID: <20001008220515.A98882@freebie.demon.nl> References: <39E03D71.AC278983@urx.com> <20001008132312.A253@parish> <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl> <20001008144909.D253@parish> <20001008160111.A97340@freebie.demon.nl> <39E08323.A84B7BB0@columbus.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <39E08323.A84B7BB0@columbus.rr.com>; from wmoran@columbus.rr.com on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 10:22:27AM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 10:22:27AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > I'm familiar with the behaviour below. But I classify it as annoying, > > if root is too dim to be careful then... > > > > Wilko > > That's an interesting take on things. Personally, I find it comforting > to have a fallback mechanism to prevent me from doing stupid things > when I'm trying to fix a frustrating problem with little sleep to help > me. > Careful as you may be, personally I'm still human. Well, I was educated on SysV machinery that had no such safety net. Until now I have managed to stay clear of root-induced disasters. > It's probably a mute point, though. Isn't this behaviour mandated by > POSIX? Hm, I would not know to be honest. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@freebsd.org Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 13:14:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3651737B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13iMpl-0007jO-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Oct 2000 16:14:09 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:14:09 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: staroffice on 4.1-S Message-ID: <20001008161408.B28807@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <8525696F.006E9186.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <8525696F.006E9186.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com>; from Ben_Calvert@amsinc.com on Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 01:06:30PM -0700 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Speaking of staroffice 5.2, I eventually got it installed and it runs ok as root, but I cannot get it to run properly as a normal user. ktracing it doesn't reveal anything that has the wrong permissions, I've poked through and chmodded everything ... no joy. Before I spend even more time on it, anyone seen this problem and got a fix ? P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 15:46: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-99.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3532F37B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e98Mk3r00717; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 18:46:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 18:46:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net To: Warner Losh Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Security problem with "script"? In-Reply-To: <200010072350.RAA00780@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message Chris BeHanna writes: > : Er, wouldn't that give a user root access to do anything he or she > : wanted? > > Yes. That's the logical conclusion if you give someone shell access, > or access to any program that can fork a shell. "TOYOTA: You asked > for it, you got it." Dammit, Warner. Now I can't get that old man (the guy with the bad teeth from Prizzi's Honor) out of my mind. He played a senile guy in another movie, and there's a scene where a guy and his wife (it's the wife's father) are driving down the road with the old guy in the back seat, and he just keeps repeating, "You asked for it; you got it. Toyoooota!" I read up a bit on sudo and its config file, and I now realize what a dumb question I asked. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 15:50:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citusc17.usc.edu (citusc17.usc.edu [128.125.38.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF9E37B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kris@localhost) by citusc17.usc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA36197; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:51:21 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Matt Heckaman Cc: Matt Dillon , Kenneth Mays , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WU-FTPD Message-ID: <20001008155121.A36170@citusc17.usc.edu> References: <200010080059.e980xRZ62667@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET on Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 09:09:10PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 09:09:10PM -0400, Matt Heckaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > However, if you need the features that wu-ftpd provide, and want an FTPD > with a good track record, you can check out ProFTPD, which is a lot easier > to use and far more flexible than wu-ftpd. Apache style configureation is > quite nice to use. It's in the ports. :) Proftpd advertise themselves as a "secure ftpd", but history has proven otherwise. Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 17:40:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from teapot16.domain4.bigpond.com (teapot16.domain4.bigpond.com [139.134.5.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 727CB37B66C for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 17:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by teapot16.domain4.bigpond.com (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id na007605 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:40:09 +1000 Received: from WEBH-T-009-p-98-197.tmns.net.au ([139.134.98.197]) by mail4.bigpond.com (Claudes-Smegging-MailRouter V2.9c 7/4119517); 09 Oct 2000 10:40:07 Message-ID: <39E11499.B38E5984@echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 08:43:05 +0800 From: Trent Nelson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Radcliffe Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: staroffice on 4.1-S References: <8525696F.006E9186.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> <20001008161408.B28807@pir.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > Speaking of staroffice 5.2, I eventually got it installed and it runs > ok as root, but I cannot get it to run properly as a normal user. Type 'make install-user' in the StarOffice 5.2 ports directory while logged in as a "normal user". > pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu Regards, Trent. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 19:15:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 95A6B37B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 19:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29013 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2000 02:15:37 -0000 Received: from p3ee21608.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.226.22.8) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 9 Oct 2000 02:15:37 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15856 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:43:59 +0200 Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:43:59 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipf vs. ipfw ? Message-ID: <20001008224359.R31338@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20001008025913.A29388@intelenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20001008025913.A29388@intelenet.net>; from matthew@intelenet.net on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 02:59:13AM -0700 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 02:59 -0700, matthew zeier wrote: > > Can anyone tell me the differences between ipf and ipfw ? > Which is "better" ? The fact that you put quotes around the 'better' term shows you are aware that "more appropriate" is the better :) phrasing. There's no anytime-better-tool but maybe one that fits _your_ situation more than another. As I can see (keep in mind neither am I part of the ipf nor the ipfw development) it's like this: - ipfw comes with FreeBSD, has done so for quite some time and is integrated into the startup sequence - ipfw does exist for FreeBSD only (??? I'm not sure of this - it's more of an impression - , but surely this will get corrected in case I'm wrong) - ipfw has learned about stateful inspection recently - ipf comes from different platforms and "by chance" runs on FreeBSD, too (although Darren can comment much better on how much work it is to incorporate it into the network stack) - utilizing ipf in FreeBSD takes some rc files editing by the admin right now, but hopefully this will chance soon (see the conf/20202 PR) - ipf has had stateful inspection right from the start and has been around with this feature for quite some time There are some issues (maybe non-issues) with bridging, portability, etc others are better in commenting at. From my perspective it boils down to: - are you already familiar with one of the languages, do you already use one or the other? i.e. how much work is it for you to use "the other" or is either one the first effort you spend? - does one of them lack a feature you need? (IIRC ipf doesn't cope with the dummy interface you need for load balancing or rate limiting, this could be a reason for you to deny its use right away) Everything else is up to you ... virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 19:40:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328C237B66E for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 19:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03934; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:39:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:39:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Gerhard Sittig Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipf vs. ipfw ? In-Reply-To: <20001008224359.R31338@speedy.gsinet> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Gerhard Sittig wrote: >- are you already familiar with one of the languages, do you > already use one or the other? i.e. how much work is it for you > to use "the other" or is either one the first effort you spend? Just to interject a brief comment, one of the main strongpoints of ipf as I see it is that it is multiplatform. This is nice because if your firewall dies, you can pull a box from just about anywhere, maybe reconfigure the hardware a bit, and drop in your existing ipf rules, regardless of what OS that box is running. For instance, if you had a FreeBSD firewall running ipf and it died, you could easily pull the linux/irix/openbsd/netbsd/etc box out of the cube down the hall and not have to spend time rewriting your rules. Whereas stuff like ipchains, ipfw, and other similiar solutions mean you have to have the same OS at all times. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 19:49:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.rdc3.on.home.com (mail1.rdc3.on.home.com [24.2.9.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9064837B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 19:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cr132542a ([24.112.55.238]) by mail1.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20001009024936.KAAZ25343.mail1.rdc3.on.home.com@cr132542a>; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 19:49:36 -0700 From: "Dennis Forbes" To: "matthew zeier" , Subject: RE: ipf vs. ipfw ? Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:52:50 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20001008025913.A29388@intelenet.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While I can't comment too much on ipfw, when I first decided to learn and experience FreeBSD it was after reading a couple of very good articles about IPF and the superbly written how to at http://www.obfuscation.org/ipf/. Because of this I have never used IPFW (though as I'll mention shortly this isn't meant to slander IPFW). Instead as an absolute complete newbie to FreeBSD I grabbed FreeBSD and installed it on a Celeron "450"a with 64MB of RAM and a 5.2 GB HD. I copied over generic and based upon some lint settings configured my new kernel for IPF and recompiled. After reading the docs (and I'm very impatient so we're talking a gloss-through) I got a very robust, very powerful firewall/NAT solution going with IPF. This message is not meant to at all diminish IPFW : I have 0 experience with IPFW. However while IPF is oft touted as not being as integrated, etc, I can say that it compiled in and works beautifully and easily. My CPU load through my cable modem under a single users load averages 0.0%. I'm extremely happy. Of course a lot of that is happiness to do with how superb FreeBSD is too. Anyways I apologize if I'm weaving here, but I guess at the outset I had the same question : Which is "better"? I knew I wanted to set up a firewall and FreeBSD was going to host it so I had to pick between IPFW and IPF. I picked IPF mostly randomly however it was easy for a newbie to install and it works great. Cheers! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of matthew zeier > Sent: October 8, 2000 5:59 AM > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: ipf vs. ipfw ? > > > > Can anyone tell me the differences between ipf and ipfw ? Which is > "better" ? > > - mz > > -- > matthew zeier - "There ain't no rules around here. We're trying to > accomplish something." - Thomas Edison > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 20:22:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front001.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A54037B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 20:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.217.130.214] (HELO dave) by front001.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.2) with SMTP id 1144212; Sun, 08 Oct 2000 23:21:50 -0400 From: David Uhring To: "Brandon D. Valentine" , Gerhard Sittig Subject: Re: ipf vs. ipfw ? Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:21:49 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.94] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00100822214900.00376@dave> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 08 Oct 2000, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Gerhard Sittig wrote: > >- are you already familiar with one of the languages, do you > > already use one or the other? i.e. how much work is it for you > > to use "the other" or is either one the first effort you spend? > > Just to interject a brief comment, one of the main strongpoints of ipf > as I see it is that it is multiplatform. This is nice because if your > firewall dies, you can pull a box from just about anywhere, maybe > reconfigure the hardware a bit, and drop in your existing ipf rules, > regardless of what OS that box is running. For instance, if you had a > FreeBSD firewall running ipf and it died, you could easily pull the > linux/irix/openbsd/netbsd/etc box out of the cube down the hall and not > have to spend time rewriting your rules. Whereas stuff like ipchains, > ipfw, and other similiar solutions mean you have to have the same OS at > all times. > > Brandon D. Valentine I don't know about irix and etc, but unless you are running a 2.0.xx kernel on that Linux box, you are not going to be able to use IPFilter. And I doubt there are many boxen still running the 2.0.xx kernel. There weren't all that many Linux users before the 2.2.xx kernels came out, and IPFilter will not work with a 2.2.xx kernel. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 20:51:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from irv1-mail2.intelenet.net (irv1-mail2.intelenet.net [204.182.160.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4441B37B502 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 20:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nimba.intelenet.net (nimba.intelenet.net [207.38.65.93]) by irv1-mail2.intelenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00747 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 20:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nimba.intelenet.net (Postfix, from userid 1294) id 8A69183C72; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 20:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 20:51:29 -0700 From: matthew zeier To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ipf rc.firewall patch ? Message-ID: <20001008205129.C29388@intelenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried to apply http://www.swcp.com/~synk/ipfmerge.patch on 4.1.1 release. # cd /etc # patch < /tmp/ipfmerge.patch But got a lot of failed hunks. I don't know anything about patch - is my syntax correct? -- matthew zeier - "There ain't no rules around here. We're trying to accomplish something." - Thomas Edison To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 21:25:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC42737B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gorean.org (Studded@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA69136; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:25:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <39E148B1.A19A6FFE@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 21:25:21 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-100 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Merges in to STABLE branches References: <20001008134028.C69484@lucifer.bart.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > > Hi, > > in the next days, weeks and months I hope to be able to do regular MFC's > back onto the 4 and 3 STABLE branches with occasional 2.2 MFC's. Out of curiosity, what specifically were you planning to commit to 2.2? Unless it's something that is a very high security risk it may be better to avoid disrupting this branch. In particular you want to be very careful about disrupting the ability to upgrade to 3.x from 2.2.8-Stable. Doug -- "The dead cannot be seduced." - Kai, "Lexx" Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 21:27: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DB637B502 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e994QmK37863; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:26:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: curious interaction between kdm and snmpd on startup In-Reply-To: <14814.15644.780542.774320@onceler.kciLink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > I run kdm from my /etc/rc.local script to get nice graphical login to > KDE. > > Recently I added ucd-snmp to this system. Today I did a reboot after > testing the vmware "vmnet" module which happened to lock up my kernel. > > Upon reboot, the keyboard within X under the kdm session was > non-responsive to most keystrokes. The CTRL-ALT-Fn sequence beeped at > me execpt for F2, which didn't do anything. CAPS LOCK worked, as did > NUMLOCK. The regular keys did nothing. All I could do was > CTRL-ALT-DEL to get out of it. This is what happens when the getty on console and xdm start up simultaneously. The keyboard goes into limbo-mode. The solution is to get xdm to wait 5-10 seconds for the getty to launch before starting itself. This can be done with some nifty shell tricks. Use this (which starts wdm, not xdm, but same idea) as a script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/: [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/wdm ] && echo -n ' wdm' && (sleep 5; /usr/X11R6/bin/wdm) & Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 21:31:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E672337B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e994Vaj53657; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:31:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Gary Kline Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the ``stray irq 7'' is back In-Reply-To: <200010080018.e980IUY02824@thought.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Gary Kline wrote: > > This is what my /etc/checkIRQ.sh script shows about 5 seconds into > printing a file:: > > atkbd0 irq 1 > sio1 irq 3 > sio0 irq 4 > ed0 irq 5 pci0.10.0 > fdc0 irq 6 > ppc0 irq 7 > stray irq 7 Gary, your motherboard is cursed. I have one too; live with it. Stray IRQ 7s are _normal_. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 21:51:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA6237B66C for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gorean.org (Studded@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA69562; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <39E14EE3.8AFB1B88@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 21:51:47 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-100 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gianmarco Giovannelli Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: username with - References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001002082345.0256ceb0@194.184.65.4> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > > Hi, > Our adduser let me add username with a dash inside (I use them to identify > the user of virtual domains), like : > ac-info > > But rmuser refuse to delete them : > gmarco:/home/gmarco# rmuser ac-info > Sorry, login name must contain alphanumeric characters only. > > So, who is right ? adduser or rmuser ? I think a better question is, why does rmuser need to check the validity of the username at all? Shouldn't it just use getpwnam() to make sure the user is in the db and set the variables? If the user is there, rmuser ought to be able to remove it. Doug -- "The dead cannot be seduced." - Kai, "Lexx" Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 21:58:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (mx1.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.112.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDB537B66D for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s1.optonline.net (s1.optonline.net [167.206.112.6]) by mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e994wF006891 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:58:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from downstairs (ool-18bd8597.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.133.151]) by s1.optonline.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e994wEo10211 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001009005407.00989810@mail-hub.optonline.net> X-Sender: mvanberk@mail-hub.optonline.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 00:58:13 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Bigwillie Subject: Re: ipf vs. ipfw ? In-Reply-To: <20001008224359.R31338@speedy.gsinet> References: <20001008025913.A29388@intelenet.net> <20001008025913.A29388@intelenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:43 PM 10/8/00 , you wrote: >On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 02:59 -0700, matthew zeier wrote: > > > > Can anyone tell me the differences between ipf and ipfw ? > > Which is "better" ? I started with ipfw, and as a newbie to this whole unix stuff, firewall rules were cryptic. I had an open firewall for about 2 months then I heard about ipf. My question was how simple can rules be written. I came to find out, its damn easy. I now have a firewall/nat solution with ipf/ipnat where the rules are a little bit more like plain english. My 2cents........ Thanks Darren R, and the FBSD collective. _________________________________________ Steiny's Studio Pachyderm Productions http://steiny.hypermart.net mailto:info@steiny.hypermart.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 22:33: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.ninth-circle.org (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BAA37B66C for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.ninth-circle.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e995Wvk79454; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:32:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:32:56 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Doug Barton Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Merges in to STABLE branches Message-ID: <20001009073256.A79356@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <20001008134028.C69484@lucifer.bart.nl> <39E148B1.A19A6FFE@gorean.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39E148B1.A19A6FFE@gorean.org>; from DougB@gorean.org on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 09:25:21PM -0700 Organisation: VIA Net.Works The Netherlands Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20001009 06:30], Doug Barton (DougB@gorean.org) wrote: > Out of curiosity, what specifically were you planning to commit to 2.2? >Unless it's something that is a very high security risk it may be better >to avoid disrupting this branch. In particular you want to be very >careful about disrupting the ability to upgrade to 3.x from >2.2.8-Stable. Nothing fancy, just security gixes I guess. Erhm, while I may make a mistake every now and then, I do test my changes as much as possible. And I have no intention to mess with the upgrade path at all. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA Net.Works The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.via-net-works.nl Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 22:38:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B0D37B66C for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gorean.org (Studded@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA70045; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:38:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <39E159E0.B15E7AE1@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 22:38:40 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-100 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Merges in to STABLE branches References: <20001008134028.C69484@lucifer.bart.nl> <39E148B1.A19A6FFE@gorean.org> <20001009073256.A79356@lucifer.bart.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > > -On [20001009 06:30], Doug Barton (DougB@gorean.org) wrote: > > Out of curiosity, what specifically were you planning to commit to 2.2? > >Unless it's something that is a very high security risk it may be better > >to avoid disrupting this branch. In particular you want to be very > >careful about disrupting the ability to upgrade to 3.x from > >2.2.8-Stable. > > Nothing fancy, just security gixes I guess. > > Erhm, while I may make a mistake every now and then, I do test my > changes as much as possible. I am in no way impugning your ability. > And I have no intention to mess with the > upgrade path at all. The problem is that in the past small, seemingly unrelated changes have damaged the ability to upgrade. I think my point is that the potential for problems is greater than any possible benefit. Doug -- "The dead cannot be seduced." - Kai, "Lexx" Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 22:45:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.ninth-circle.org (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FF337B66C for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.ninth-circle.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e995j9n79634; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:45:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:45:09 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Doug Barton Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Merges in to STABLE branches Message-ID: <20001009074509.D79356@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <20001008134028.C69484@lucifer.bart.nl> <39E148B1.A19A6FFE@gorean.org> <20001009073256.A79356@lucifer.bart.nl> <39E159E0.B15E7AE1@gorean.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39E159E0.B15E7AE1@gorean.org>; from DougB@gorean.org on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 10:38:40PM -0700 Organisation: VIA Net.Works The Netherlands Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20001009 07:40], Doug Barton (DougB@gorean.org) wrote: >Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: >> >> Erhm, while I may make a mistake every now and then, I do test my >> changes as much as possible. > > I am in no way impugning your ability. Wasn't implying, just pointing out. :) It seems it isn't as normal as it used to be. >> And I have no intention to mess with the >> upgrade path at all. > > The problem is that in the past small, seemingly unrelated changes have >damaged the ability to upgrade. I think my point is that the potential >for problems is greater than any possible benefit. I am paying very close attention to that. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA Net.Works The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.via-net-works.nl Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 23:35:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kirk.giovannelli.it (kirk.giovannelli.it [194.184.65.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA5937B503 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from suzy.masternet.it (modem16.masternet.it [194.184.65.76]) by kirk.giovannelli.it (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e996Tms47092; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 08:29:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001009083602.02993e90@194.184.65.4> X-Sender: gmarco@194.184.65.4 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 08:38:03 +0200 To: Doug Barton From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: Re: username with - Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <39E14EE3.8AFB1B88@gorean.org> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001002082345.0256ceb0@194.184.65.4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08/10/2000, Doug Barton wrote: >Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > > > > Hi, > > Our adduser let me add username with a dash inside (I use them to identify > > the user of virtual domains), like : > > ac-info > > > > But rmuser refuse to delete them : > > gmarco:/home/gmarco# rmuser ac-info > > Sorry, login name must contain alphanumeric characters only. > > > > So, who is right ? adduser or rmuser ? > > I think a better question is, why does rmuser need to check the >validity of the username at all? Shouldn't it just use getpwnam() to >make sure the user is in the db and set the variables? If the user is >there, rmuser ought to be able to remove it. I agree with you. Let's remove the check from rmuser : if a user is in the user db, rmuser must know how to wipe it from there :-) Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco http://www2.masternet.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 23:39:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu (beoclu-01.phy.GaSoU.edu [141.165.40.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BEB37B502 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from janus.main.gsbcnet (janus.main.gsbcnet [192.168.0.1]) by beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e996dL408025; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 02:39:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sdodson@beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 02:39:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Dodson To: Warner Losh Cc: Jon Paterson , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Correct sequence for keeping a 4.1 system stable. In-Reply-To: <200010051637.KAA51557@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message Jon Paterson writes: > : If these seem like trivial questions please do not flame me, I have never > : attempted to do this before and do not want to damage a working system! > > >From src/UPDATING: > > To update from 4.0-RELEASE or later to the most current > 4.x-STABLE > ---------- > make buildworld > make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > make installkernel KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > reboot (in single user) [1] > make installworld > mergemaster > reboot Has anyone else had problems following this method? I've only had success with building world, installing world, building and then of course installing the kernel Everytime i've tried it as described in UPDATING, i've gotten many errors. Never had a problem doing it the way i've described. -scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 23:42:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2041C37B6C9 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e996g7Y06261; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:42:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA09488; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:42:06 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010090642.AAA09488@harmony.village.org> To: Scott Dodson Subject: Re: Correct sequence for keeping a 4.1 system stable. Cc: Jon Paterson , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Oct 2000 02:39:20 EDT." References: Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 00:42:06 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Scott Dodson writes: : Has anyone else had problems following this method? I've only had : success with building world, installing world, building and then of course : installing the kernel Everytime i've tried it as described in UPDATING, : i've gotten many errors. Never had a problem doing it the way i've : described. The updating that I quoted was for 4.0->newer. I've not had problems with it. Last time I upgraded a 3.5 system to 4.1-stable I had lots of problems similar to what your long message described working around. I've not had time to update UPDATING and to test things out. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 23:45:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu (beoclu-01.phy.GaSoU.edu [141.165.40.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C0E37B502 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from janus.main.gsbcnet (janus.main.gsbcnet [192.168.0.1]) by beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e996jn408047; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 02:45:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sdodson@beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 02:45:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Dodson To: Warner Losh Cc: Jon Paterson , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Correct sequence for keeping a 4.1 system stable. In-Reply-To: <200010090642.AAA09488@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > The updating that I quoted was for 4.0->newer. I've not had problems > with it. Last time I upgraded a 3.5 system to 4.1-stable I had lots > of problems similar to what your long message described working > around. I've not had time to update UPDATING and to test things out. > Hmm, I don't know why. Those problems were going from 4.0 -> 4.1.1 and going from 4.1 -> 4.1.1 on another machine. If it happened on just one machine i wouldn't rase a question. But his is happening on both, however of course I'm the one that's done both the machines. But i don't think i've screwd anything else up. -scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 8 23:47:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40ED37B502 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e996lBY06295; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:47:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA09610; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:47:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010090647.AAA09610@harmony.village.org> To: Scott Dodson Subject: Re: Correct sequence for keeping a 4.1 system stable. Cc: Jon Paterson , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Oct 2000 02:45:49 EDT." References: Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 00:47:11 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Scott Dodson writes: : Hmm, I don't know why. Those problems were going from 4.0 -> 4.1.1 and : going from 4.1 -> 4.1.1 on another machine. If it happened on just one : machine i wouldn't rase a question. But his is happening on both, however : of course I'm the one that's done both the machines. But i don't think : i've screwd anything else up. OK. I'll setup a system and give it a try. I thought that I had no problems when I had done it. But maybe there's some autopilot effects going on here. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 2: 4:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A782237B66E for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 02:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13iYqw-0004Pb-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 09 Oct 2000 05:04:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 05:04:09 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: staroffice on 4.1-S Message-ID: <20001009050409.A16447@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <8525696F.006E9186.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> <20001008161408.B28807@pir.net> <39E11499.B38E5984@echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39E11499.B38E5984@echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au>; from tpnelson@echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 08:43:05AM +0800 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Trent Nelson probably said: > Type 'make install-user' in the StarOffice 5.2 ports directory while > logged in as a "normal user". Already have done. To repeat, when I 'su -m' to keep my enviroment it works fine, using the per user install in my home directory. Using the same files as a normal user does not work (and yes, I've chown/chmodded them). Linux emulation works fine in general, I use linux netscape for the plugins. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 2: 8:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from org.chem.msu.su (org.chem.msu.su [158.250.32.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BA137B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 02:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from org.chem.msu.su (org.chem.msu.su [158.250.32.161]) by org.chem.msu.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA86836; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:02:12 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:02:12 +0400 (MSD) From: kostik To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Gregory Bond , Gerhard Sittig , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: agp_if.c In-Reply-To: <20001007160117.B16778@citusc17.usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > i have an old question - why freebsd project can't switch to gmake? > > i'm holding to (!) different makes on my system now (make & gmake). > It is GPL'ed software. kostik@org:~$~> man gcc GCC(1) GNU Tools GCC(1) NAME gcc, g++ - GNU project C and C++ Compiler (v2.7) SYNOPSIS gcc [ option | filename ]... g++ [ option | filename ]... WARNING The information in this man page is an extract from the full documentation of the GNU C compiler, and is limited to the meaning of the options. i see, gcc is gpl'ed too, but you use it regardless of license type. why don't use gmake? (with gcc). -- WBR, Konstantin Yu. Pasichnichenko E-mail : kostik@org.chem.msu.su FIDO : 2:5020/118.82@fidonet.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 2:10:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citusc17.usc.edu (citusc17.usc.edu [128.125.38.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF3637B66D for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 02:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kris@localhost) by citusc17.usc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA40693; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 02:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 02:10:54 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: kostik Cc: Kris Kennaway , Gregory Bond , Gerhard Sittig , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: agp_if.c Message-ID: <20001009021053.B40663@citusc17.usc.edu> References: <20001007160117.B16778@citusc17.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from kostik@org.chem.msu.su on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 01:02:12PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 01:02:12PM +0400, kostik wrote: > i see, gcc is gpl'ed too, but you use it regardless of license type. > why don't use gmake? (with gcc). Because there is a perfectly adequate BSD-licensed alternative. Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 2:26: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF9937B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 02:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA07074; Mon, 09 Oct 2000 02:25:43 -0700 Message-ID: <39E18F17.2D013442@urx.com> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 02:25:43 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: Scott Dodson , Jon Paterson , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Correct sequence for keeping a 4.1 system stable. References: <200010090647.AAA09610@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > > In message Scott Dodson writes: > : Hmm, I don't know why. Those problems were going from 4.0 -> 4.1.1 and > : going from 4.1 -> 4.1.1 on another machine. If it happened on just one > : machine i wouldn't rase a question. But his is happening on both, however > : of course I'm the one that's done both the machines. But i don't think > : i've screwd anything else up. > > OK. I'll setup a system and give it a try. I thought that I had no > problems when I had done it. But maybe there's some autopilot effects > going on here. I am following a 4.0-release system that is being upgraded to 4.1.1 stable. It is a training exercise and I'm doing a tail -f and following the upgrade output, which is being redirected to a text file, remotely. The only upgrade problems I've seen lately are those occasional strange ones with perl, i.e., the chmod of libdbsm.a. The upgrade I'm following won't be finished until they get off from work tonight at the earliest. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 3:10:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66BE37B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 03:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id OAA01874 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:16:11 +0200 Message-ID: <39E199C1.97CD5D0B@i-clue.de> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:11:13 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de Organization: i-clue interactive GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: staroffice on 4.1-S References: <8525696F.006E9186.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> <20001008161408.B28807@pir.net> <39E11499.B38E5984@echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au> <20001009050409.A16447@pir.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > Trent Nelson probably said: > > Type 'make install-user' in the StarOffice 5.2 ports directory while > > logged in as a "normal user". > > Already have done. > > To repeat, when I 'su -m' to keep my enviroment it works fine, using the > per user install in my home directory. Using the same files as a normal > user does not work (and yes, I've chown/chmodded them). > > Linux emulation works fine in general, I use linux netscape for the > plugins. I just changed the #!-line to read #!/usr/local/bin/bash instead of #!/bin/sh in Suns installuser script. They assume bash is installed as /bin/sh. After changing the shell line, everything works as expected. HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 3:46: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCEF37B66C for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 03:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.causticlabs.com (oca-c1s1-07.mfi.net [209.26.94.8]) by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381E11360D; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 06:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by earth.causticlabs.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E63187C82; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 06:45:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 06:45:55 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: matthew zeier Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipf rc.firewall patch ? Message-ID: <20001009064555.A23818@earth.causticlabs.com> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , matthew zeier , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20001008205129.C29388@intelenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001008205129.C29388@intelenet.net>; from matthew@intelenet.net on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 08:51:29PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 08:51:29PM -0700, matthew zeier wrote: > > I tried to apply > > http://www.swcp.com/~synk/ipfmerge.patch > > on 4.1.1 release. > > # cd /etc > # patch < /tmp/ipfmerge.patch > > But got a lot of failed hunks. I don't know anything about patch - is > my syntax correct? > Sorry but we don't know anything about that patch either. However, Darren Reed recently committed rc* changes to -current to support ipfilter. Hopefully they will be backported to -stable shortly. See http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=20202 for the patches (which should apply cleanly to -stable). -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 4:55: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front002.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960AE37B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 04:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.217.130.214] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front002.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.2) with SMTP id 22777802; Mon, 09 Oct 2000 07:53:30 -0400 From: Dave Uhring To: Christoph Sold , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: staroffice on 4.1-S Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 06:55:05 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.94] Content-Type: text/plain References: <8525696F.006E9186.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> <20001009050409.A16447@pir.net> <39E199C1.97CD5D0B@i-clue.de> In-Reply-To: <39E199C1.97CD5D0B@i-clue.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00100906550500.00779@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 09 Oct 2000, Christoph Sold wrote: > Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > Trent Nelson probably said: > > > Type 'make install-user' in the StarOffice 5.2 ports directory > > > while logged in as a "normal user". > > > > Already have done. > > > > To repeat, when I 'su -m' to keep my enviroment it works fine, using the > > per user install in my home directory. Using the same files as a normal > > user does not work (and yes, I've chown/chmodded them). > > > > Linux emulation works fine in general, I use linux netscape for the > > plugins. > > I just changed the #!-line to read #!/usr/local/bin/bash instead of > #!/bin/sh > in Suns installuser script. They assume bash is installed as /bin/sh. > After > changing the shell line, everything works as expected. > > HTH > -Christoph Sold If you use the port to install staroffice52, the setup and soffice scripts are already modified to use /compat/linux/bin/sh, which is sym-linked to /compat/linux/bin/bash. And staroffice fails to run properly for me whether I'm logged in as root or user. It runs well on Linux. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 5:29:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E2C37B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 05:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp16466029.columbus.rr.com [24.164.66.29]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27891 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 08:28:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39E1BB31.2A20AB51@columbus.rr.com> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 08:33:53 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: username with - References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001002082345.0256ceb0@194.184.65.4> <39E14EE3.8AFB1B88@gorean.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Barton wrote: > I think a better question is, why does rmuser need to check the > validity of the username at all? Should it do wildcarding? If not, it needs to check for invalid chars that could be used to wildcard. On the flipside, wildcarding might be nice. -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 7:21:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F5737B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573442E449 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:21:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e99ELnD71829; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:21:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14817.54397.228468.872440@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:21:49 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing In-Reply-To: References: <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "a" == andrew writes: a> On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: >> People already having root privs are not stopped by it. Or is it only aimed >> at the higher securelevels? a> I assume its for secure levels 1 and above and if you were a security a> conscious site I imagine it would be a very useful feature. My question is why does /usr/obj need the schg flag set on anything in the first place? It basically means that on a secure system you have to reboot to single user just to delete the build tree. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 7:24: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1972A37B66C for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04212E449 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:23:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e99ENtO76113; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:23:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14817.54523.483580.621792@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:23:55 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: staroffice on 4.1-S In-Reply-To: <20001008161408.B28807@pir.net> References: <8525696F.006E9186.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> <20001008161408.B28807@pir.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "PR" == Peter Radcliffe writes: PR> Before I spend even more time on it, anyone seen this problem and got PR> a fix ? The only way I got SO 5.2 running on a 4.1 system was to install from the CD-ROM that Sun was giving out at the Perl conference in July. It seems to work ok. I did a /net install into "/opt", and then set up my self using the setup program. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 7:27:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.teliauk.com (mailhub.teliauk.com [195.12.225.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8690D37B676 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d1o314.teliauk.com (root@d1o314.teliauk.com [195.12.237.81]) by mailhub.teliauk.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e99ERYA29622; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:27:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from vilnya.demon.co.uk (t1o316p35.teliauk.com [195.12.246.35]) by d1o314.teliauk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03074; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:27:14 +0100 (GMT/BST) Received: from haveblue (haveblue.rings [10.2.4.5]) by vilnya.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E838D9A8; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:27:12 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001301c031fd$11fa5800$0504020a@haveblue> From: "Cameron Grant" To: "Glendon Gross" , "Bjoern Fischer" Cc: References: Subject: Re: problem w/ new pcm feeder + emu10k1 in 4.1.1-stable Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:27:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I wonder if this has anything to do with why my Soundwave 128 PCI > is not recognized. It shows up as an "unknown card" during boot: > > Script started on Sun Oct 8 06:12:35 2000 > % dmesg | grep unknown > pci0: (vendor=0x1073, dev=0x000d) at 9.0 irq 11 > % exit this is a ymf724f which is supported. is pcm compiled into your kernel? -cg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 7:30:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B3537B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C13C2E449 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e99EUGj89047; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:30:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14817.54904.257674.7378@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:30:16 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: curious interaction between kdm and snmpd on startup In-Reply-To: References: <14814.15644.780542.774320@onceler.kciLink.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "DW" == Doug White writes: DW> This is what happens when the getty on console and xdm start up DW> simultaneously. The keyboard goes into limbo-mode. That explains it... wow. What a fun timing issue. Curious how adding snmpd to startup triggers it every time! DW> The solution is to get xdm to wait 5-10 seconds for the getty to launch DW> before starting itself. This can be done with some nifty shell Yes; this is what I'm doing now: (sleep 30; kdm) & but I think I can cut the sleep time a bit ;-) Thanks for the tip and confirmation. Perhaps I can just start kdm from init (/etc/ttys) and it will work out the timing itself ... I'll try that later. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 7:35:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E387037B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 32FCB1360D; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:35:39 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Vivek Khera Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing Message-ID: <20001009103539.B28702@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl> <14817.54397.228468.872440@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <14817.54397.228468.872440@onceler.kciLink.com>; from khera@kciLink.com on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 10:21:49AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 10:21:49AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "a" == andrew writes: > > a> On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > >> People already having root privs are not stopped by it. Or is it only aimed > >> at the higher securelevels? > > a> I assume its for secure levels 1 and above and if you were a security > a> conscious site I imagine it would be a very useful feature. > > My question is why does /usr/obj need the schg flag set on anything in > the first place? It basically means that on a secure system you have > to reboot to single user just to delete the build tree. > It doesn't (as of 4.x). Previous branches did set the schg flag, however 4.x and 5.x no longer do this. -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 7:45: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B8037B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.2) with SMTP id AAA15779; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:44:43 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:44:42 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith Reply-To: Ian Smith To: Bill Moran Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: username with - In-Reply-To: <39E1BB31.2A20AB51@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Bill Moran wrote: > Doug Barton wrote: > > > I think a better question is, why does rmuser need to check the > > validity of the username at all? Indeed. > Should it do wildcarding? If not, it needs to check for invalid chars > that could be used to wildcard. > On the flipside, wildcarding might be nice. # rmuser -y * Eek .. Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 8: 2:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net (cmr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net [198.5.241.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3121237B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 08:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from npiserve0.corp.us.uu.net by cmr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: npiserve0.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.88.22]) id QQjkee04626 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:02:25 GMT Received: by npiserve0.corp.us.uu.net id QQjkee10754 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:01:20 -0400 (EDT) From: dkrapf@UU.NET (Donald E. Krapf) Message-Id: Subject: Re: ipf vs. ipfw ? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:01:19 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20001008025913.A29388@intelenet.net> from "matthew zeier" at Oct 08, 2000 02:59:13 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG matthew zeier writes: > Can anyone tell me the differences between ipf and ipfw ? Which is > "better" ? I've used both ipfilter and ipfw and found them both to be usable. I'm currently using ipfilter on both FreeBSD and Solaris 2.6. Ipfilter rule groups are a good idea but could be better. I don't remember if ipfw has something similar. The NAT facility (ipnat) of ipfilter is practically undocumented for all but the most common configurations. As far as I can tell, some of the features (e.g. some in-kernel proxies) actually are undocumented. If you just want to do something simple, such as map a home network behind a gateway to your ISP, you can copy one of the trivial examples. I've never used ipfw's NAT facility (natd) and don't know anything about its rules. For heavy NAT traffic, I prefer ipnat because it's in-kernel whereas natd is a user-space daemon. Most any modest unix box can route IP practically in its sleep. Ipnat adds an insignificant additional load since it just twiddles a few bits in the packet as it goes by on the stack. If I understand natd's implementation correctly, it pushes each packet out through a pseudo device where it is read, and then rewritten, by natd. That requires 2 context switches per packet, not to mention the copying and recopying of the packet data. Similarly, ipfilter does its filtering in the kernel. I don't remember if ipfw does its filtering in the kernel or if it uses a user-space daemon like it does for NAT. I'd like to hear other opinions on this subject. Don -- Don Krapf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 8:29:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB6437B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 08:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e99FTKQ48359 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:29:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <39E1E44F.CD668446@thehousleys.net> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 11:29:19 -0400 From: James Housley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipf vs. ipfw ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have used ipfw because when I started ipfilter was only in the ports. I have tried several times to use ipfilter but have been unable to figure out how. The rules for ipfw are fairly simple and are processed in order. It is easy for me to understand, write and debug them, bit plus. I have not been able to wrap my mind around ipfilter's rules. I have spent about an hour total and just don't get it completely. Some of the documentation was sparse last time I checked. From looking it seems it might be more powerful, but recently ipfw added stateful rules. These are just my observations and experiences. Jim -- jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 9: 9:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com [155.208.254.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9BA37B66C for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 09:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (hpcpbla.bri.hp.com [15.144.112.65]) by bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19941A74E; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:06:59 +0200 (METDST) Received: from sse0691.bri.hp.com (sse0691.bri.hp.com [15.144.0.53]) by hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id QAA06458; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:06:58 +0100 (BST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by sse0691.bri.hp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA35560; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:10:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:10:16 +0100 From: Steve Roome To: Craig Hawco Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive Message-ID: <20001009161016.C35132@moose.bri.hp.com> Mail-Followup-To: Steve Roome , Craig Hawco , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001006160901.009eb5d0@pop.syd.eastlink.ca> <5.0.0.25.0.20001006160901.009eb5d0@pop.syd.eastlink.ca> <20001006152247.B82507@pawn.primelocation.net> <5.0.0.25.0.20001006163108.009e9070@pop.syd.eastlink.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001006163108.009e9070@pop.syd.eastlink.ca>; from dest@syd.eastlink.ca on Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 04:35:17PM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 04:35:17PM -0300, Craig Hawco wrote: > Ah, very true, but I can't afford to replace it. > It's a 1.7gig Fujitsu M1623TAU.. 3 years old. > I have a 4-5year old 1gig Seagate that's still in perfect condition.. guess > that tells you how good Fujitsu drives are. Well, it tells you how good that particular Fujitsu is. I had a whole batch of seagate disks die on me at one company. That doesn't tell me how good Seagate drives are. I have 600Gb of filesystem entirely on seagate drives here, some fail some run happily. No disks are perfect, but it's rash to imply that Fujitsu are a bad disk manufacturor because one disk died! Personally fujitsu and IBM are at the top of my list above seagate on who to order from. Steve Disclaimer : I wrote this, it's nothing to do with the company I work for, if anyone wants to claim so that's nice for them. But false. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 10:10:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D771C37B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix, from userid 100) id 1F4C32E443; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:10:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14817.64539.984808.362682@yertle.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:10:51 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: effective use of serial console X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got a stack of servers at a co-lo facililty about 35 minutes drive from here (non-rush hour...) and I'd like to make best use of the serial console feature of FreeBSD. So far with my in-office experiments, I have been able to do just about everything I need. My only question is how can I force a reboot similar to the CTL-ALT-DEL key sequence on a local console? I was hoping a BREAK signal would do it, but the best I can do is make it drop to a debugger. I don't really need debugger support in my production kernels, but I guess if that's the only way to accomplish it... How do others set this up? I guess I'm really looking for a really fail-safe serial console. Thanks. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 10:12:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from irv1-mail2.intelenet.net (irv1-mail2.intelenet.net [204.182.160.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9065C37B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nimba.intelenet.net (nimba.intelenet.net [207.38.65.93]) by irv1-mail2.intelenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14211 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nimba.intelenet.net (Postfix, from userid 1294) id D7BE383C72; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:12:42 -0700 From: matthew zeier To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: serial console - how-to ? Message-ID: <20001009101242.D29388@intelenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In searching the mailing lists, I seem to get different methods to use COM1 for console. What's needed to get a GENERIC kernel to use COM1 for all console I/O ? Do I just add "-h" to /boot.config (that file doesn't exist on 4.1.1) ? Or do I need to rebuild my kernel setting the flags for com1 to 0x20? Do I need to do anything to /etc/ttys ? Thanks. - mz -- matthew zeier - "There ain't no rules around here. We're trying to accomplish something." - Thomas Edison To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 10:14: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from beta.root-servers.ch (beta.root-servers.ch [195.49.33.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08DFD37B66C for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4546 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2000 17:13:59 -0000 Received: from client75-185.hispeed.ch (HELO work.root.li) (62.2.75.185) by beta.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 9 Oct 2000 17:13:59 -0000 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:17:32 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46c) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <114201499621.20001009191732@buz.ch> To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: effective use of serial console In-reply-To: <14817.64539.984808.362682@yertle.kciLink.com> References: <14817.64539.984808.362682@yertle.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Vivek, Monday, October 09, 2000, 7:10:51 PM, you wrote: > How do others set this up? I guess I'm really looking for a really > fail-safe serial console. I'm wondering if there's a possibility to use USB console as this would be even better for this case because you could build some kind of network using USB hubs where the PCs don't need to rely on their twins for serial console access. If you got one up, you can access all of them... And after all, USB ports are more common today than serial ones ;-) Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 10:15:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cgi.sstar.com (cgi.sstar.com [209.205.176.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778DB37B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jking (jking.lgc.com [134.132.76.82]) by cgi.sstar.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with SMTP id e99HFWR58010; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:15:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Message-ID: <014201c03214$885aa330$524c8486@jking> From: "Jim King" To: "Vivek Khera" , References: <14817.64539.984808.362682@yertle.kciLink.com> Subject: Re: effective use of serial console Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:15:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Vivek Khera wrote: > I've got a stack of servers at a co-lo facililty about 35 minutes > drive from here (non-rush hour...) and I'd like to make best use of > the serial console feature of FreeBSD. > > So far with my in-office experiments, I have been able to do just > about everything I need. My only question is how can I force a reboot > similar to the CTL-ALT-DEL key sequence on a local console? I was > hoping a BREAK signal would do it, but the best I can do is make it > drop to a debugger. I don't really need debugger support in my > production kernels, but I guess if that's the only way to accomplish > it... > > How do others set this up? I guess I'm really looking for a really > fail-safe serial console. I use reboot(8) or shutdown(8). On RARE occasions I have to call the guy at my colo and have him intervene physically. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 10:19:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from beta.root-servers.ch (beta.root-servers.ch [195.49.33.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 95F9737B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4627 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2000 17:19:39 -0000 Received: from client75-185.hispeed.ch (HELO work.root.li) (62.2.75.185) by beta.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 9 Oct 2000 17:19:39 -0000 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:23:11 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46c) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <177201838909.20001009192311@buz.ch> To: matthew zeier Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial console - how-to ? In-reply-To: <20001009101242.D29388@intelenet.net> References: <20001009101242.D29388@intelenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello matthew, Monday, October 09, 2000, 7:12:42 PM, you wrote: > What's needed to get a GENERIC kernel to use COM1 for all console I/O ? > Do I just add "-h" to /boot.config (that file doesn't exist on 4.1.1) ? That's correct. But it's easy enough to create it: # echo "-h" > /boot.config > Or do I need to rebuild my kernel setting the flags for com1 to 0x20? From my understanding, 0x10 is preferred as this enables you to also use a keyboard/screen combo as console (say: it just works for me). > Do I need to do anything to /etc/ttys ? Yes you do: change ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure to ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup on secure if you need more than one serial consoles, you can also set the following lines to on. Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 10:20:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F037237B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id BEACC1360D; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:20:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:20:34 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: matthew zeier Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial console - how-to ? Message-ID: <20001009132034.C28702@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , matthew zeier , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20001009101242.D29388@intelenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001009101242.D29388@intelenet.net>; from matthew@intelenet.net on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 10:12:42AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 10:12:42AM -0700, matthew zeier wrote: > > In searching the mailing lists, I seem to get different methods to use > COM1 for console. > > What's needed to get a GENERIC kernel to use COM1 for all console I/O ? GENERIC is set up for serial console on sio0 (COM1). > Do I just add "-h" to /boot.config (that file doesn't exist on 4.1.1) ? In /boot.config: /boot/loader -P (to probe whether a keyboard is present) or: /boot/loader -h (to force serial) both of which are documented in /sys/i386/boot/biosboot/README.serial > Or do I need to rebuild my kernel setting the flags for com1 to 0x20? > Do I need to do anything to /etc/ttys ? > You may want to enable the ttyd0 line if you want to login via serial also. In addition, see /etc/defaults/make.conf WRT BOOT_COMCONSOLE_PORT and BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED to change the compile-time parameters. -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 10:48:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rnocserv.urc.ac.ru (rnocserv.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBF337B66C for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from belle.RNOC-dialup.urc.ac.ru (belle.RNOC-dialup.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.126]) by rnocserv.urc.ac.ru (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e99HmV501587 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:48:32 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from anton@urc.ac.ru) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:48:29 +0600 (YEKST) From: Anton Voronin X-Sender: anton@belle.rnoc-dialup.urc.ac.ru To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: rc.diskless2 tries to use filesystems not mounted yet Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all. Yes, I know that rc.diskless2 may be redefined. But it seems not to work itself. It uses chown, find and cpio that are located in /usr. But in the diskless configuration /usr is usually an nfs partition, so it is mounted much later than ${mount_diskless} is called. So shouldn't this script mount all nfs filesystems itself? Regards, Anton Voronin Ural Regional Center of FREEnet, Southern Ural State University, Chelyabinsk, Russia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 10:55:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7AF37B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.255.97.114]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20001009185409.WVBM23965.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:54:09 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e99HscE04014; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:54:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:54:31 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Chris Faulhaber Cc: Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing Message-ID: <20001009185431.C252@parish> References: <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl> <14817.54397.228468.872440@onceler.kciLink.com> <20001009103539.B28702@peitho.fxp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001009103539.B28702@peitho.fxp.org>; from jedgar@fxp.org on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 10:35:39AM -0400 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 10:35:39AM -0400, Chris Faulhaber wrote: > On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 10:21:49AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > > >>>>> "a" == andrew writes: > > > > a> On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > >> People already having root privs are not stopped by it. Or is it only aimed > > >> at the higher securelevels? > > > > a> I assume its for secure levels 1 and above and if you were a security > > a> conscious site I imagine it would be a very useful feature. > > > > My question is why does /usr/obj need the schg flag set on anything in > > the first place? It basically means that on a secure system you have > > to reboot to single user just to delete the build tree. > > > > It doesn't (as of 4.x). Previous branches did set the schg flag, however > 4.x and 5.x no longer do this. Thank you for the explanation. Can you just confirm that this has *always* been the case for 4.x? (so that I can update the handbook). > > -- > Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org > -------------------------------------------------------- > FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 10:58:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9624537B66C; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2CCC81360D; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:58:48 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Mark Ovens Cc: Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing Message-ID: <20001009135848.A558@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Mark Ovens , Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl> <14817.54397.228468.872440@onceler.kciLink.com> <20001009103539.B28702@peitho.fxp.org> <20001009185431.C252@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001009185431.C252@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 06:54:31PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 06:54:31PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 10:35:39AM -0400, Chris Faulhaber wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 10:21:49AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > > > >>>>> "a" == andrew writes: > > > > > > a> On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > > > >> People already having root privs are not stopped by it. Or is it only aimed > > > >> at the higher securelevels? > > > > > > a> I assume its for secure levels 1 and above and if you were a security > > > a> conscious site I imagine it would be a very useful feature. > > > > > > My question is why does /usr/obj need the schg flag set on anything in > > > the first place? It basically means that on a secure system you have > > > to reboot to single user just to delete the build tree. > > > > > > > It doesn't (as of 4.x). Previous branches did set the schg flag, however > > 4.x and 5.x no longer do this. > > Thank you for the explanation. Can you just confirm that this has *always* > been the case for 4.x? (so that I can update the handbook). > IIRC, it has been that way since sometime during the development of 4.0-CURRENT. -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 11: 2:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AF637B66E for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e99I27Y08768; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:02:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA13347; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:02:05 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010091802.MAA13347@harmony.village.org> To: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: Re: username with - Cc: Doug Barton , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Oct 2000 08:38:03 +0200." <5.0.0.25.0.20001009083602.02993e90@194.184.65.4> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001009083602.02993e90@194.184.65.4> <5.0.0.25.0.20001002082345.0256ceb0@194.184.65.4> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:02:05 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <5.0.0.25.0.20001009083602.02993e90@194.184.65.4> Gianmarco Giovannelli writes: : Let's remove the check from rmuser : if a user is in the user db, rmuser : must know how to wipe it from there :-) Index: rmuser.perl =================================================================== RCS file: /home/imp/FreeBSD/CVS/src/usr.sbin/adduser/rmuser.perl,v retrieving revision 1.10 diff -u -r1.10 rmuser.perl --- rmuser.perl 2000/03/14 14:27:34 1.10 +++ rmuser.perl 2000/10/09 18:00:58 @@ -107,8 +107,8 @@ if ($#ARGV == 0) { # Username was given as a parameter $login_name = pop(@ARGV); - die "Sorry, login name must contain alphanumeric characters only.\n" - if ($login_name !~ /^[a-zA-Z0-9_]\w*$/); + die "Sorry, login name must not contain colons (:).\n" + if ($login_name =~ /:/); } else { if ($affirm) { print STDERR "${whoami}: Error: -y option given without username!\n"; Nuff said? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 11:10:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from paperboy.sixforty.co.uk (paperboy.sixforty.co.uk [195.10.242.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5500237B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lfarr (daisy.sixforty.co.uk [195.10.242.200]) by paperboy.sixforty.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA91490 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:10:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd-net@sixforty.co.uk) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: Subject: RE: username with - Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:10:52 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200010091802.MAA13347@harmony.village.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can we also set adduser to do the same? (It won't allow .) Lawrence Farr EPC Direct Limited mailto:lawrence@epcdirect.co.uk T:01179666123 F:01179666111 M:07970780901 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Warner Losh > Sent: 09 October 2000 19:02 > To: Gianmarco Giovannelli > Cc: Doug Barton; stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: username with - > > > In message <5.0.0.25.0.20001009083602.02993e90@194.184.65.4> > Gianmarco Giovannelli writes: > : Let's remove the check from rmuser : if a user is in the user > db, rmuser > : must know how to wipe it from there :-) > > Index: rmuser.perl > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/imp/FreeBSD/CVS/src/usr.sbin/adduser/rmuser.perl,v > retrieving revision 1.10 > diff -u -r1.10 rmuser.perl > --- rmuser.perl 2000/03/14 14:27:34 1.10 > +++ rmuser.perl 2000/10/09 18:00:58 > @@ -107,8 +107,8 @@ > if ($#ARGV == 0) { > # Username was given as a parameter > $login_name = pop(@ARGV); > - die "Sorry, login name must contain alphanumeric characters only.\n" > - if ($login_name !~ /^[a-zA-Z0-9_]\w*$/); > + die "Sorry, login name must not contain colons (:).\n" > + if ($login_name =~ /:/); > } else { > if ($affirm) { > print STDERR "${whoami}: Error: -y option given without > username!\n"; > > Nuff said? > > Warner > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 11:11:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF77C37B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07179; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e99IBGS16459; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:11:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:11:15 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Doug White Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the ``stray irq 7'' is back Message-ID: <20001009111115.B15937@tao.thought.org> References: <200010080018.e980IUY02824@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 09:31:36PM -0700 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 09:31:36PM -0700, Doug White wrote: > On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > This is what my /etc/checkIRQ.sh script shows about 5 seconds into > > printing a file:: > > > > atkbd0 irq 1 > > sio1 irq 3 > > sio0 irq 4 > > ed0 irq 5 pci0.10.0 > > fdc0 irq 6 > > ppc0 irq 7 > > stray irq 7 > > Gary, your motherboard is cursed. I have one too; live with it. > > Stray IRQ 7s are _normal_. > Aha, I know what it _really_ was. Two weeks back a gypsy on the street corner gave me the Evil Eye! Time to get a new m'board ... it's been 31 months. gary > -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 11:11:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537DE37B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e99IBjY08824; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:11:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA13444; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:11:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010091811.MAA13444@harmony.village.org> To: Vivek Khera Subject: Re: make buildworld failing Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Oct 2000 10:21:49 EDT." <14817.54397.228468.872440@onceler.kciLink.com> References: <14817.54397.228468.872440@onceler.kciLink.com> <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:11:43 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <14817.54397.228468.872440@onceler.kciLink.com> Vivek Khera writes: : >>>>> "a" == andrew writes: : : a> On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: : : >> People already having root privs are not stopped by it. Or is it only aimed : >> at the higher securelevels? : : a> I assume its for secure levels 1 and above and if you were a security : a> conscious site I imagine it would be a very useful feature. : : My question is why does /usr/obj need the schg flag set on anything in : the first place? It basically means that on a secure system you have : to reboot to single user just to delete the build tree. Because it installs a subset of the tree in to /usr/obj and that's the standard way that installs happen. I think that you can say make buildworld -DNOFCHG to prevent this. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 11:13:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585AC37B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e99IDaY08841; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:13:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA13479; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:13:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010091813.MAA13479@harmony.village.org> To: Vivek Khera Subject: Re: effective use of serial console Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Oct 2000 13:10:51 EDT." <14817.64539.984808.362682@yertle.kciLink.com> References: <14817.64539.984808.362682@yertle.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:13:35 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <14817.64539.984808.362682@yertle.kciLink.com> Vivek Khera writes: : I've got a stack of servers at a co-lo facililty about 35 minutes : drive from here (non-rush hour...) and I'd like to make best use of : the serial console feature of FreeBSD. : : So far with my in-office experiments, I have been able to do just : about everything I need. My only question is how can I force a reboot : similar to the CTL-ALT-DEL key sequence on a local console? I was : hoping a BREAK signal would do it, but the best I can do is make it : drop to a debugger. I don't really need debugger support in my : production kernels, but I guess if that's the only way to accomplish : it... : : How do others set this up? I guess I'm really looking for a really : fail-safe serial console. You can always hack sio to make the break character call reboot rather than debugger. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 11:16:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0B037B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00351; Mon, 09 Oct 2000 11:15:49 -0700 Message-ID: <39E20B55.B57B7A25@urx.com> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 11:15:49 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: Scott Dodson , Jon Paterson , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Correct sequence for keeping a 4.1 system stable. References: <200010090647.AAA09610@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > > In message Scott Dodson writes: > : Hmm, I don't know why. Those problems were going from 4.0 -> 4.1.1 and > : going from 4.1 -> 4.1.1 on another machine. If it happened on just one > : machine i wouldn't rase a question. But his is happening on both, however > : of course I'm the one that's done both the machines. But i don't think > : i've screwd anything else up. > > OK. I'll setup a system and give it a try. I thought that I had no > problems when I had done it. But maybe there's some autopilot effects > going on here. What kind of errors are you looking for? The 4.0-R to 4.1.1-S buildworld upgrade that I was watching finished last night. Because of this thread I did a buildkernel KERNEL=GENERIC and that went without errors. There were a couple of warning message in the buildkernel but that was it. The buildworld output far really to large to page down through. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 11:23:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7898137B670 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e99IN1Y08885; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:23:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA13573; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:23:01 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010091823.MAA13573@harmony.village.org> To: kstewart@urx.com Subject: Re: Correct sequence for keeping a 4.1 system stable. Cc: Scott Dodson , Jon Paterson , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Oct 2000 11:15:49 PDT." <39E20B55.B57B7A25@urx.com> References: <39E20B55.B57B7A25@urx.com> <200010090647.AAA09610@harmony.village.org> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:23:01 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <39E20B55.B57B7A25@urx.com> Kent Stewart writes: : What kind of errors are you looking for? The 4.0-R to 4.1.1-S : buildworld upgrade that I was watching finished last night. Because of : this thread I did a buildkernel KERNEL=GENERIC and that went without : errors. There were a couple of warning message in the buildkernel but : that was it. The buildworld output far really to large to page down : through. No errors after you run mergemaster on reboot? I think that I get some files not existing messages from newsyslog on a reboot that far apart. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 11:53: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1229537B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e99IqlY09001; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:52:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA13778; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:52:47 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010091852.MAA13778@harmony.village.org> To: matthew zeier Subject: Re: serial console - how-to ? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Oct 2000 10:12:42 PDT." <20001009101242.D29388@intelenet.net> References: <20001009101242.D29388@intelenet.net> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:52:47 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20001009101242.D29388@intelenet.net> matthew zeier writes: : In searching the mailing lists, I seem to get different methods to use : COM1 for console. : : What's needed to get a GENERIC kernel to use COM1 for all console I/O ? : Do I just add "-h" to /boot.config (that file doesn't exist on 4.1.1) ? : Or do I need to rebuild my kernel setting the flags for com1 to 0x20? : Do I need to do anything to /etc/ttys ? The easiest way is to add -h to your /boot.config file. You will also need to turn on ttyd0 in /etc/ttys. Make sure that sio0 has flags 0x10 set (it does in GENERIC). Flags 0x20 forces it to be the console. This can be both good and bad. I usually avoid it unless I have some reason to do it. Things get complicated if you want boot0 to be serial, or a faster console speed than 9600 baud. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 11:55:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFE137B66E for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e99ItAY09017; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:55:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA13808; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:55:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010091855.MAA13808@harmony.village.org> To: "Lawrence Farr" Subject: Re: username with - Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:10:52 BST." References: Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:55:09 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message "Lawrence Farr" writes: : Can we also set adduser to do the same? (It won't allow .) I'd be disinclined to make adduser do this. I think that adding a - is fine, however. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 12: 3:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ratogi.arc.nasa.gov (ratogi.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.132.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5640037B66D for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ratogi@localhost) by ratogi.arc.nasa.gov (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e99Ixbo20094; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:59:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ratogi@eecs.berkeley.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: ratogi.arc.nasa.gov: ratogi owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:59:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Ray Gilstrap X-Sender: ratogi@ratogi.arc.nasa.gov To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: effective use of serial console In-Reply-To: <14817.64539.984808.362682@yertle.kciLink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, If you have a little bit of a budget for this, you might want to think about getting a network power switch. Then if all else fails, you can at least log into the NPS via Ethernet or serial and cycle the AC power on the outlet that the offending machine is plugged into. If you don't already have one, you might also consider a small terminal server router with a handful of serial lines. So as long as you have network (modem) access to the terminal server, you can ssh (dial) into it and launch terminal sessions over the serial lines. Makes life a little easier when you have several serial-connected devices. I am familiar with the NPS-115 from Western Telematic (wti.com) and the Cisco 2511 terminal server, but there are no doubt other alternatives that work just as well. Sorry if this is a bit off-topic for this list. Ray == RAY GILSTRAP ====================================================== UC Berkeley Electrical Engineering/ ratogi@eecs.berkeley.edu NASA Research and Education Network http://www.ratogi.net ====================================================================== On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: : I've got a stack of servers at a co-lo facililty about 35 minutes : drive from here (non-rush hour...) and I'd like to make best use of : the serial console feature of FreeBSD. : : So far with my in-office experiments, I have been able to do just : about everything I need. My only question is how can I force a reboot : similar to the CTL-ALT-DEL key sequence on a local console? I was : hoping a BREAK signal would do it, but the best I can do is make it : drop to a debugger. I don't really need debugger support in my : production kernels, but I guess if that's the only way to accomplish : it... : : How do others set this up? I guess I'm really looking for a really : fail-safe serial console. : : Thanks. : : -- : =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= : Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. : Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 : GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 12: 7:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7CF37B66C for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10083; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e99J7en16925; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:07:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:07:39 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Steve Roome Cc: Craig Hawco , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive Message-ID: <20001009120739.D15937@tao.thought.org> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001006160901.009eb5d0@pop.syd.eastlink.ca> <5.0.0.25.0.20001006160901.009eb5d0@pop.syd.eastlink.ca> <20001006152247.B82507@pawn.primelocation.net> <5.0.0.25.0.20001006163108.009e9070@pop.syd.eastlink.ca> <20001009161016.C35132@moose.bri.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20001009161016.C35132@moose.bri.hp.com>; from steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 04:10:16PM +0100 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 04:10:16PM +0100, Steve Roome wrote: > On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 04:35:17PM -0300, Craig Hawco wrote: > > Ah, very true, but I can't afford to replace it. > > It's a 1.7gig Fujitsu M1623TAU.. 3 years old. > > I have a 4-5year old 1gig Seagate that's still in perfect condition.. guess > > that tells you how good Fujitsu drives are. > > Well, it tells you how good that particular Fujitsu is. > > > I had a whole batch of seagate disks die on me at one company. > That doesn't tell me how good Seagate drives are. > > I have 600Gb of filesystem entirely on seagate drives here, some fail > some run happily. No disks are perfect, but it's rash to imply that > Fujitsu are a bad disk manufacturor because one disk died! > > Personally fujitsu and IBM are at the top of my list above seagate on > who to order from. > > Steve I'll stick in my dime's worth, and ask a question about IDE drives in general. Re Fujitsu, in 1991 I bought a 1.08G SCSI drive mfg by them that ran flawlessly for 8+ years before it died. Consider this simply another data-point. The question: How reliable are the new IDE drives? Is there any published research comparing SCSI and IDE reliability? gary > -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 12:12:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778CC37B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29693; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:11:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:11:36 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: David Kelly Cc: Jordan Hubbard , Warner Losh , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: `time make buildworld' Message-ID: <20001009141136.A16050@futuresouth.com> References: <200010080002.e9802ma83795@nospam.hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010080002.e9802ma83795@nospam.hiwaay.net>; from dkelly@hiwaay.net on Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 07:02:48PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 07:02:48PM -0500, a little birdie told me that David Kelly remarked > Jordan Hubbard writes: > > I think you should keep it around as a data point for the worldstone benchmark. > > We could have your machine's value as the low-end reference point. :) > > I let it run for at least 10 days trying (I gave up, it was still > crunching) to buildworld via NFS once. Or was that 40 days? Its been a > long time. Guess I should fire it up connected to a UPS and find out. > And one day we may also find the definitive answer as to "How many > licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie-Pop(tm)?" I have a 386 SX/20 with 4 megs running a fairly recent (~8 month old) 2.1-STABLE. Last buildworld I did on it (over nfs to my workstation) took approx. 11 days IIRC. I wouldn't even consider doing a buildworld on it (80 meg drive... yum.) Still, it makes a pretty solid print server ;) -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 12:16:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C2B1437B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18239 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2000 19:16:21 -0000 Received: from p3ee20a8e.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.226.10.142) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 9 Oct 2000 19:16:21 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17653 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:53:42 +0200 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:53:42 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the ``stray irq 7'' is back Message-ID: <20001009195342.U31338@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200010080018.e980IUY02824@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 09:31:36PM -0700 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 21:31 -0700, Doug White wrote: > > Gary, your motherboard is cursed. I have one too; live with it. > > Stray IRQ 7s are _normal_. Jumping in late, but ... I know "stray irqs" from when hardware is "disabled" or you have hardware in the machine the OS doesn't support and thus doesn't register drivers or resources for. That's when the events end up in the "stray" (i.e. "unexpected since not caused by me") handler. Sound cards were known to cause this some five to eight years ago. Some irq7 got triggered "by chance" without the lpt driver thinking it has done it or some such. And I've seem machines with crackling sound in the speaker boxes whenever print jobs via lpt were executed. It must have been some kind of cross over noise, maybe not enough or defective separation of electrical paths or something. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 12:16:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 071BB37B66C for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18641 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2000 19:16:32 -0000 Received: from p3ee20a8e.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.226.10.142) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 9 Oct 2000 19:16:32 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17648 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:34:46 +0200 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:34:45 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipf vs. ipfw ? Message-ID: <20001009193445.T31338@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001008224359.R31338@speedy.gsinet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from bandix@looksharp.net on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 10:39:22PM -0400 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 22:39 -0400, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Gerhard Sittig wrote: > > >- are you already familiar with one of the languages, do you > > already use one or the other? i.e. how much work is it for you > > to use "the other" or is either one the first effort you spend? > > Just to interject a brief comment, one of the main strongpoints > of ipf as I see it is that it is multiplatform. This is nice > because if your firewall dies, you can pull a box from just > about anywhere, maybe reconfigure the hardware a bit, and drop > in your existing ipf rules, regardless of what OS that box is > running. That's something other tools promise, too. One even wouldn't have to learn ipfw/ipf/ipchains/fw-1/whatever syntax, and could use e.g. hlfl (high level firewall language, IIRC) instead. This will even provide you with more abstract (read: maybe more readable for more complex scenarios) methods of specifying what you mean by having the computer break it down for you into the concrete program's syntax and maybe a multitude of rules replacing some "closer to human thinking" words. But OTOH this is just one more language to learn in case you already know the destination language. And it certainly is a good idea to understand the lower level language, too -- to make sure the "translator" told the machine what you wanted to tell it to the machine. :) It's always better to be safe than sorry ... BTW: Did anyone miss the possibility to use (shell like) variables in ipf rules, too? Is there someone who did something to achieve this? I thought of an extension like MXHOST=12.34.56.78 cat | ipf -f - << E_O_RULES pass out ... from $MXHOST ... E_O_RULES This would fit into my PR conf/20202 hooks, too. :) Just change the ipfilter_program and ipfilter_rules settings. But it still lacks something like DNSHOSTS="1.2.3.4 5.6.7.8" REPEAT $DNSHOSTS : pass out ... from SUBST_HOST ... which could need a little five line Perl wrapper. And ipfw users could like this PR, too, since they could use it for the very same mechanism -- just with ipfw behind the pipe! And these substitutions maybe could get nested if needed like this: REPEAT S1 $SRC : REPEAT S2 $DEST : pass ... from S1 to S2 ... if implemented in some intelligent way. Has someone gotten behind the stage of thinking about this and actually started planning or implementing it? I would be interested in different thoughts. Or would it be better to separate the "abstract description" from the "low level /etc/ipf.rules" with a "rules generator" not run at ipf load time but at ruleset modification time instead? Like some kind of vifw wrapper. :> Feel free to reply via PM in case this thread if too far OT. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 12:28:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4432F37B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e99JScY09149; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:28:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA14035; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:28:38 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010091928.NAA14035@harmony.village.org> To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Subject: Re: `time make buildworld' Cc: David Kelly , Jordan Hubbard , FreeBSD Stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Oct 2000 14:11:36 CDT." <20001009141136.A16050@futuresouth.com> References: <20001009141136.A16050@futuresouth.com> <200010080002.e9802ma83795@nospam.hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 13:28:37 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20001009141136.A16050@futuresouth.com> "Matthew D. Fuller" writes: : I have a 386 SX/20 with 4 megs running a fairly recent (~8 month old) : 2.1-STABLE. Last buildworld I did on it (over nfs to my workstation) : took approx. 11 days IIRC. I wouldn't even consider doing a buildworld : on it (80 meg drive... yum.) Just go and try to buy a 80MB hard drive these days. It is nearly impossible. Unless you want flash :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 12:36:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E5E37B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00268; Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:36:20 -0700 Message-ID: <39E21E34.1F923B27@urx.com> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:36:20 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: Scott Dodson , Jon Paterson , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Correct sequence for keeping a 4.1 system stable. References: <39E20B55.B57B7A25@urx.com> <200010090647.AAA09610@harmony.village.org> <200010091823.MAA13573@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <39E20B55.B57B7A25@urx.com> Kent Stewart writes: > : What kind of errors are you looking for? The 4.0-R to 4.1.1-S > : buildworld upgrade that I was watching finished last night. Because of > : this thread I did a buildkernel KERNEL=GENERIC and that went without > : errors. There were a couple of warning message in the buildkernel but > : that was it. The buildworld output far really to large to page down > : through. > > No errors after you run mergemaster on reboot? I think that I get > some files not existing messages from newsyslog on a reboot that far > apart. I haven't got that far. The system is remote and the installs won't be done until the person I am helping gets off of work tonight. I just wanted to know what to look for. The system started out as a clean standard build by a newbie and all that has been added to it is cvsup, doc-proj, and a game chat program. I am expecting to see messages from sendmail because of the aliases changes for the current version. Will be interested to see what mergemaster does there now. This system doesn't have any aliases to worry about and if nothing else, we just run newaliases manually. I'm also going to try the installworld without going to single user mode. If we can do that, I can do the mergemaster and get them past the huge number of cron changes. Telling someone with a reading problem what to do over a talk window on a different computer can be a real problem when you have so many shell scripts changing. I figure I stand a pretty good chance this will work on 4.x-stable. I have 3 systems that I don't have to run in single user mode to do the installworld. The reason for waiting is that it may not work and then you have someone that can try it in single-user mode. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 12:44:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1E237B66C for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00294; Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:44:08 -0700 Message-ID: <39E22008.5AFEADA@urx.com> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:44:08 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: "Matthew D. Fuller" , David Kelly , Jordan Hubbard , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: `time make buildworld' References: <20001009141136.A16050@futuresouth.com> <200010080002.e9802ma83795@nospam.hiwaay.net> <200010091928.NAA14035@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <20001009141136.A16050@futuresouth.com> "Matthew D. Fuller" writes: > : I have a 386 SX/20 with 4 megs running a fairly recent (~8 month old) > : 2.1-STABLE. Last buildworld I did on it (over nfs to my workstation) > : took approx. 11 days IIRC. I wouldn't even consider doing a buildworld > : on it (80 meg drive... yum.) > > Just go and try to buy a 80MB hard drive these days. It is nearly > impossible. Unless you want flash :-) I was reading info on Maxtor's size limiting option because of the rash of 20+GB drives that FreeBSD thought were 2GB'ers. It turns out that a single platter is now 15GB. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 13:40:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tsunami.reflectively.net (tsunami.reflectively.net [216.85.76.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 038D837B66D for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 60650 invoked by uid 1001); 9 Oct 2000 20:40:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Oct 2000 20:40:13 -0000 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:40:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert X-Sender: rna@tsunami To: Gary Kline Cc: Steve Roome , Craig Hawco , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive In-Reply-To: <20001009120739.D15937@tao.thought.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I used to own a Compaq Proliant 800/850 (one of them) with an internal RAID 5 array with about 4 8gb Seagate Baracude(SCSI UW). I had two of the drives fail on me after about 4 years, due to heat and just the fact that we plain ran them into the ground. I have a feeling that these new IDE drives, much like some old SCSI drives, have problems with inadequate ventilation. Most of these new 7200 rpm drives (IDE) run VERY hot and most people do not provide proper cooling for their computers. I recommend to anyone who wants to extend the life of their ide drives to purchase the "drive cooler" product from Antec. Not only do they cool the drives down they have a protective dust shield where the fans are so you dont contribute to dirtying the components. Also a likely scenario now-a-days is having your 5.25" slots taken up by a CD-R, CD-ROM, and whatever else you might have and having your drives crunched together in the internal 3.25" mount. Imagine three drives just sitting all together with metals conducting heat throughout one another, not good! Logic also reasons that most people dont check the heat of the drive, or have any type of secondary cooling for the drives. I dont think that its an issue of drive reliability but more so an issue of use and abuse. If you get a drive and run it for a year or two or three even and then all of a sudden it dies and you have no warranty it is most likely an oversight on the consumers part. I have a 540 meg western digital cavier drive from around 1990-1992 that still works quite nicely, never over used and always kept in a cool computer. I have used about every combination possible when it comes to drive types. I have had problems with all sorts of different drives and only minimal failures, due to the fact I keep ALL my computers and drives well ventilated and in my server rooms I always have auxillary AC. I generally regard IBM as being the top of the line now for new IDE drives, however they are more expensive. Seagate makes some nice IDE drives that you can purchase for decent prices while still getting quality. Fujitsu, Maxtor, Quantum, etc. are what I regard as the low-end pay for what you get drive manufacturers. I have seen more probelms with new western digital drives for some reason its as if they dont have the "quality" they used to be somewhat known for. I know this is the freebsd-stable list and this topic thread is 100% related to hardware issues but In order to have a more stable system (regardles of operating system) people need to realize the foundation of a proper running computer is something properly configured with decent hardware and a good OS. FreeBSD-stable is top notch as far as stability is concerned. Its the hardware now-a-days that is becoming a difficult viewpoint to retain. People want to slap an install on a system they picked up getting every bargain they can and cutting every corner they feel necessary to bring the price down. If you are like me and you have a 70/30 split as far as SCSI and IDE are concerned in your network you know how it is. You pay more for better equipment, it is something that should be faced and addressed since alot of the posts in this mailing list are directyl related to incompatible/non-compliant hardware. I have even contributed to the threads trying to get various pieces of equipment to work with this wonderful os that ultimately ended in me realizing that the 20 bucks saved on a perticular motherboard was not the way to go. I think we will see alot more volume of these types of messages as people grow out of linux for servers/etc and switch to freebsd as an end-all solution(hehe). I just hope their will be a certain degree of understanding hardware out there versus the other way around. Coming from the days of the 8086 alot of people learned just what hardware was about, believe me I have spent a small fortune on this stuff over time. -Robert Is there an industry expert out there who can give us some NUMBERS? Or do they even exist? On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 04:10:16PM +0100, Steve Roome wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 04:35:17PM -0300, Craig Hawco wrote: > > > Ah, very true, but I can't afford to replace it. > > > It's a 1.7gig Fujitsu M1623TAU.. 3 years old. > > > I have a 4-5year old 1gig Seagate that's still in perfect condition.. guess > > > that tells you how good Fujitsu drives are. > > > > Well, it tells you how good that particular Fujitsu is. > > > > > > I had a whole batch of seagate disks die on me at one company. > > That doesn't tell me how good Seagate drives are. > > > > I have 600Gb of filesystem entirely on seagate drives here, some fail > > some run happily. No disks are perfect, but it's rash to imply that > > Fujitsu are a bad disk manufacturor because one disk died! > > > > Personally fujitsu and IBM are at the top of my list above seagate on > > who to order from. > > > > Steve > > I'll stick in my dime's worth, and ask a question about IDE drives > in general. > > Re Fujitsu, in 1991 I bought a 1.08G SCSI drive mfg by them that > ran flawlessly for 8+ years before it died. Consider this simply > another data-point. > > The question: How reliable are the new IDE drives? Is there any > published research comparing SCSI and IDE reliability? > > gary > > > > > -- > Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 13:54:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.hccnet.nl (pop.hccnet.nl [193.172.127.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEAE437B66C for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parmenides.utp.net by pop.hccnet.nl via uds71-123.dial.hccnet.nl [193.173.123.71] with ESMTP id WAA08825 (8.8.5/1.13); Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:54:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (janko@localhost) by parmenides.utp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01009; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:54:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from janko@compuserve.com) X-Authentication-Warning: parmenides.utp.net: janko owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:54:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Janko van Roosmalen X-Sender: janko@parmenides.utp.net To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: effective use of serial console In-Reply-To: <14817.64539.984808.362682@yertle.kciLink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have read somewhere that the classic trick is to add an user to your system with "shutdown" as login shell. ===Janko van Roosmalen - Vught - Netherlands=== On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > > I've got a stack of servers at a co-lo facililty about 35 minutes > drive from here (non-rush hour...) and I'd like to make best use of > the serial console feature of FreeBSD. > > So far with my in-office experiments, I have been able to do just > about everything I need. My only question is how can I force a reboot > similar to the CTL-ALT-DEL key sequence on a local console? I was > hoping a BREAK signal would do it, but the best I can do is make it > drop to a debugger. I don't really need debugger support in my > production kernels, but I guess if that's the only way to accomplish > it... > > How do others set this up? I guess I'm really looking for a really > fail-safe serial console. > > Thanks. > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. > Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 > GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 14: 9:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B5337B66C for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14167; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e99L9fQ17813; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:09:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:09:40 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Gerhard Sittig Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the ``stray irq 7'' is back Message-ID: <20001009140940.A17746@tao.thought.org> References: <200010080018.e980IUY02824@thought.org> <20001009195342.U31338@speedy.gsinet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20001009195342.U31338@speedy.gsinet>; from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 07:53:42PM +0200 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 07:53:42PM +0200, Gerhard Sittig wrote: > On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 21:31 -0700, Doug White wrote: > > > > Gary, your motherboard is cursed. I have one too; live with it. > > > > Stray IRQ 7s are _normal_. > > Jumping in late, but ... > > I know "stray irqs" from when hardware is "disabled" or you have > hardware in the machine the OS doesn't support and thus doesn't > register drivers or resources for. That's when the events end up > in the "stray" (i.e. "unexpected since not caused by me") > handler. Sound cards were known to cause this some five to eight > years ago. Some irq7 got triggered "by chance" without the lpt > driver thinking it has done it or some such. And I've seem > machines with crackling sound in the speaker boxes whenever print > jobs via lpt were executed. It must have been some kind of cross > over noise, maybe not enough or defective separation of > electrical paths or something. > After cleaning both ends of the cable, it's possible that one end or the other (or both) weren't reconnected correctly; thanks for this information. When something as mundane as this suddenly quits after several years, I'm ready to believe anything! gary -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 14:11:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.netunlimited.net (mail.netunlimited.net [208.128.132.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4010337B66C for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seahawk (seahawk.twinds.com [208.165.2.226]) by mail.netunlimited.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21001; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:12:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:11:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Arley Carter To: Steven Farmer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ahc driver problem In-Reply-To: <14815.61540.655647.106686@catbert.megahack.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1708942581-971125874=:30399" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1708942581-971125874=:30399 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can report the same failure. My config dmesg is attached to this message. The ahc driver put on the 4.1 Release CD works and the system boots and operates with no problems detected. This problem occurs when the machine is booted from the new GENERIC kernel built from sources cvsup'd Saturday Oct. 7. Therefore some change committed between these two dates broke the driver. I have not tried building current. Is this problem also present in current or only stable? 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Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 14:23:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.flashcom.net (3ff83059.dsl.flashcom.net [63.248.48.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA73137B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cgaff@localhost) by mail.flashcom.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e99LMX300387; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:22:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cgaff) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:22:33 -0500 From: "Corey G." To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: jeff@alanne.com Subject: Re: Signal 4 while compiling 4.1.1 Message-ID: <20001009162233.A360@flashcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from wysoft@wysoft.tzo.com on Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 04:23:50PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Due to the cold weather I was able to cool my computer room to 40 degrees Farenheit. I tried to recompile with the exact same source and what do you know, it compiled!! Thanks, Corey On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 04:23:50PM -0700, Jeff Wyman wrote: > Just a little side note, although enough info might have been given out > already... > > I have a K6-2/500 system (actually a 550@6x83) running at 2.2v core. It > runs very fast and has tracked stable for a few months now, building about > every week or so. I decided as of 4.1.1-R to stop this wasting of time, > and built that. 4.1.1-R is built and has been running very stable for a > week now. > > I can also agree with others that a good heatsink/fan combo and either > conducting grease or pads are a MUST with this chip. With a good amount of > grease on mine, it runs fine even without the fan, but I didn't like the > idea of this just to save a little bit more of my ear drums. > > On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Jeff Duffy wrote: > > > On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > > > >If this was a software error, however, one would think more than just > > >a couple of people would be running into it. -stable builds just fine > > >on multiple test boxes I have here, and that encompasses everything > > >from Celerons to Athlons. > > > > I agree. I was just waiting for someone who had a successful buildworld > > of 4.1.1-STABLE on a K6-II or K6-III to speak up (since these were the > > two CPUs in question). I assume (and correct me if I'm wrong) that Jordan > > is saying that he has done just that. Given, I'm sure he knows the issues > > better than I. > > > > While I look for cooling issues on the K6-III, I'm still going to try a > > 4.1-STABLE and a 4.1.1-STABLE buildworld on another K6-II 500 machine I > > have, to generate some empirical data on the issue. If both compile > > cleanly, I'll post the info so at least I can kill the thread I > > helped start :) > > > > If the 4.1.1-STABLE build fails in the same place however, can I assume > > that that would be interesting data? > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ---end quoted text--- -- Best Regards, Corey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 14:37: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front001.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC8E37B66C for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.217.130.214] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front001.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.2) with ESMTP id 1245049; Mon, 09 Oct 2000 17:37:02 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dave.uhring.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00270; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:34:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:34:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Dave Uhring X-Sender: duhring@dave.uhring.com To: Gary Kline Cc: Gerhard Sittig , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the ``stray irq 7'' is back In-Reply-To: <20001009140940.A17746@tao.thought.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The usual reason for getting these spurious IRQ's is that the equipment is not properly connected, leaving the Centronics ACK pin floating. A floating input can take just about any voltage level, depending on ambient EMI noise. When the pin voltage floats (damn if I remember the exact logic level anymore) the IRQ is triggered. Same thing happened with a firewall box I had on IRQ 15 with no secondary IDE drives attached. The real fun with these spurious IRQ's happens when you are doing a humongous download and one packet out of 5000 gets corrupted by an overflow on your NIC's buffer because the CPU was busy dealing with the IRQ. The NIC drivers apparently do not check for underflow/overflow conditions. Then when you attempt to unzip your tarball, you get the message 'header not found...' I had that happen when I was trying to get the StarOffice-5.1a package from Sun - 69MB shot to hell. Dave On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Gary Kline wrote: > Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:09:40 -0700 > From: Gary Kline > To: Gerhard Sittig > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: the ``stray irq 7'' is back > > On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 07:53:42PM +0200, Gerhard Sittig wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 21:31 -0700, Doug White wrote: > > > > > > Gary, your motherboard is cursed. I have one too; live with it. > > > > > > Stray IRQ 7s are _normal_. > > > > Jumping in late, but ... > > > > I know "stray irqs" from when hardware is "disabled" or you have > > hardware in the machine the OS doesn't support and thus doesn't > > register drivers or resources for. That's when the events end up > > in the "stray" (i.e. "unexpected since not caused by me") > > handler. Sound cards were known to cause this some five to eight > > years ago. Some irq7 got triggered "by chance" without the lpt > > driver thinking it has done it or some such. And I've seem > > machines with crackling sound in the speaker boxes whenever print > > jobs via lpt were executed. It must have been some kind of cross > > over noise, maybe not enough or defective separation of > > electrical paths or something. > > > > After cleaning both ends of the cable, it's possible that > one end or the other (or both) weren't reconnected > correctly; thanks for this information. When something as > mundane as this suddenly quits after several years, > I'm ready to believe anything! > > gary > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 15:22:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from inf.ufsc.br (euryale.inf.ufsc.br [150.162.60.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D7D37B66C for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus (venus [150.162.60.1]) by inf.ufsc.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21340 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:26:36 -0300 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:26:33 -0300 (EST) From: Antonio Carlos Venancio Junior X-Sender: antonio@venus To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 16:11:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733A237B670 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by Awfulhak.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e99NAFB34858; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:10:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e99NAEs13560; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:10:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200010092310.e99NAEs13560@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Arley Carter Cc: Steven Farmer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, brian@Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: ahc driver problem In-Reply-To: Message from Arley Carter of "Mon, 09 Oct 2000 17:11:14 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:10:14 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I can report the same failure. My config dmesg is attached to this > message. The ahc driver put on the 4.1 Release CD works and the system > boots and operates with no problems detected. This problem occurs when > the machine is booted from the new GENERIC kernel built from sources > cvsup'd Saturday Oct. 7. Therefore some change committed between these two > dates broke the driver. I have not tried building current. Is this > problem also present in current or only stable? It's in -current too. Reverting /sys/dev/aic7xxx to 20000920 makes life easier. > Cheers: > -arc > > Arley Carter arc@twinds.com > Tradewinds Technologies, Inc. www.twinds.com > Winston-Salem, NC USA Network Engineering & Security -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 16:53: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genesis.k.pl (genesis.korbank.pl [195.117.162.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD1F37B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ns88@localhost) by genesis.k.pl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e99NqnG03486 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:52:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:52:49 +0200 From: Tomasz Paszkowski To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Why sendmail is not compiled with TLS Message-ID: <20001010015249.A38634@genesis.k.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It's boring to tune it everytime, when I'am instaling new system :( -- _ _ _ _ _ / \ | | / / / \ / \ --- Tomasz Paszkowski ------------------------------ | |\ \| | \ \ |/ \||/ \| === IPv4://3575244866 === IPNg://3ffe:8010:59::2 === /_/ \__/ /_/ \_/ \_/ -------------------Powered by Brain and Keyboard --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 17: 2:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFF637B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp16466029.columbus.rr.com [24.164.66.29]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04610 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:01:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39E25DC9.42D0684C@columbus.rr.com> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:07:37 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Anyone using adaptec 29160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone using an Adaptec 29160 SCSI controller? ( It's pretty new and I know it's not technically supported, but I was wondering if anyone had tried it and got it working? For example, does it emulate another Adaptec adapter? Will another adaptec driver work with it? Timeline forces me to be sure before I purchase. Any feedback is greatly appreciated (works, doesn't work, etc) -Bill Moran To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 17: 8:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E5D37B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19814; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9A084k19178; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:08:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:08:03 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Robert Cc: Gary Kline , Steve Roome , Craig Hawco , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive Message-ID: <20001009170803.A18961@tao.thought.org> References: <20001009120739.D15937@tao.thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from rna@reflectively.net on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 04:40:13PM -0400 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 04:40:13PM -0400, Robert wrote: > Hello, > I used to own a Compaq Proliant 800/850 (one of them) with an > internal > RAID 5 array with about 4 8gb Seagate Baracude(SCSI UW). I had two of the > drives fail on me after about 4 years, due to heat and just the > fact that we plain ran them into the ground. I have a feeling that these > new IDE drives, much like some old SCSI drives, have problems with > inadequate ventilation. Most of these new 7200 rpm drives (IDE) run VERY > hot and most people do not provide proper cooling for their computers. I > recommend to anyone who wants to extend the life of their ide > drives to purchase the "drive cooler" product from Antec. Not only do > they cool the drives down they have a protective dust shield where the > fans are so you dont contribute to dirtying the components. Can you explain more about these drive-coolers? URL's or whatever would help. > Also a likely > scenario now-a-days is having your 5.25" slots taken up by a CD-R, > CD-ROM, and whatever else you might have and having your drives crunched > together in the internal 3.25" mount. Imagine three drives just sitting > all together with metals conducting heat throughout one another, not > good! Logic also reasons that most people dont check the heat of the > drive, or have any type of secondary cooling for the drives. I dont think > that its an issue of drive reliability but more so an issue of use and > abuse. If you get a drive and run it for a year or two or three even and > then all of a sudden it dies and you have no warranty it is most likely an > oversight on the consumers part. I have a 540 meg western digital cavier > drive from around 1990-1992 that still works quite nicely, never over used > and always kept in a cool computer. There are also DVD's and tape drives to factor in. The if you have two hard disk drives and a CD-R, you're talking serious heat. > > I have used about every combination possible when it comes to drive > types. I > have had problems with all sorts of different drives and only minimal > failures, due to the fact I keep ALL my computers and drives well > ventilated and in my server rooms I always have auxillary AC. I generally > regard IBM as being the top of the line now for new > IDE drives, however they are more expensive. Seagate makes some nice IDE > drives that you can purchase for decent prices while still getting > quality. Fujitsu, Maxtor, Quantum, etc. are what I regard as the low-end > pay for what you get drive manufacturers. I have seen more probelms with > new western digital drives for some reason its as if they dont have the > "quality" they used to be somewhat known for. > > I know this is the freebsd-stable > list and this topic thread is 100% related to hardware issues but In order > to have a more stable system (regardles of operating system) people need > to realize the foundation of a proper running computer is something > properly configured with decent hardware and a good OS. FreeBSD-stable is > top notch as far as stability is concerned. Its the hardware now-a-days > that is becoming a difficult viewpoint to retain. People > want to > slap an install on a system they picked up getting every bargain they > can and cutting every corner they feel necessary to bring the price > down. If you are like me and you have a 70/30 split as far as SCSI and > IDE are concerned in your network you know how it is. You pay more for > better equipment, > it is something that should be faced and addressed since alot of the posts > in this mailing list are directyl related to > incompatible/non-compliant hardware. I > have even contributed to the threads trying to get various pieces of > equipment to work with this wonderful os that ultimately ended in me > realizing that the 20 bucks saved on a perticular motherboard was not the > way to go. I think we will see alot more volume of these types of > messages as people grow out of linux for servers/etc and switch to freebsd > as an end-all solution(hehe). I just hope their will be a certain degree > of understanding hardware out there versus the other way around. Coming > from the days of the 8086 alot of people learned just what hardware was > about, believe me I have spent a small fortune on this stuff over > time. > The reason I'm echoing this back to -stable is in the hope that it will save lots of grief (and wasted money) over time. The more we know, the wiser our decisions about what to buy off the shelf---like my cheap e-machines Linux box--and how to protect our systems. My Linux system has a single 10G drive and a CDROM that I rarely use. This system and my backup FreeBSD box are chock full of SCSI devices. It would be nice if my replacement for this system could be one or two drives, maybe a DVD, and my tape drive. > > Is there an industry expert out there who can give us some NUMBERS? Or do > they even exist? > > If not, are there any web sites with valid stats? gary > -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 17:29: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A8D37B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 13inI2-000Hgv-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:29:06 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA03467 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:29:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:29:06 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: sound problems under 4.1.1 Message-ID: <20001010012905.A3426@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried 'play' after upgrading to 4.1.1 and running MAKEDEV, and it doesn't mork. The error message is '/dev/dsp: invalid argument'. I tried deleting and remaking the snd and snd0 nodes, which by the way complains about mixer being an invalid node, but somehow I got that working. I was using play to play a .wav, if it matters. Catting a .au file works fine. jcm -- "I drank WHAT ?!" - Socrates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 17:36:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C5637B66D for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27437; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:35:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200010100035.RAA27437@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001006160901.009eb5d0@pop.syd.eastlink.ca> from Craig Hawco at "Oct 6, 0 04:14:38 pm" To: dest@syd.eastlink.ca (Craig Hawco) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:35:45 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Craig Hawco wrote: > I have recently fled from FreeBSD back into (ugh) windows because of a > minor drive problem. It seems that my drive has a few bad blocks, and > I know what they are. Check out www.spinrite.com Perhaps you can fix the sectors. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 17:43:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C5137B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slave (Studded@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA84736; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:43:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:43:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt051n37.san.rr.com To: Warner Losh Cc: Gianmarco Giovannelli , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: username with - In-Reply-To: <200010091802.MAA13347@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-89123106-971138599=:84731" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-89123106-971138599=:84731 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <5.0.0.25.0.20001009083602.02993e90@194.184.65.4> Gianmarco Giovannelli writes: > : Let's remove the check from rmuser : if a user is in the user db, rmuser > : must know how to wipe it from there :-) > > Index: rmuser.perl > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/imp/FreeBSD/CVS/src/usr.sbin/adduser/rmuser.perl,v > retrieving revision 1.10 > diff -u -r1.10 rmuser.perl > --- rmuser.perl 2000/03/14 14:27:34 1.10 > +++ rmuser.perl 2000/10/09 18:00:58 > @@ -107,8 +107,8 @@ > if ($#ARGV == 0) { > # Username was given as a parameter > $login_name = pop(@ARGV); > - die "Sorry, login name must contain alphanumeric characters only.\n" > - if ($login_name !~ /^[a-zA-Z0-9_]\w*$/); > + die "Sorry, login name must not contain colons (:).\n" > + if ($login_name =~ /:/); > } else { > if ($affirm) { > print STDERR "${whoami}: Error: -y option given without username!\n"; > > Nuff said? Actually the attached patch is more what I had in mind. If you would rather go with your version, make sure to hit get_login_name() as well. 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owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:48:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "James E. Pace" X-Sender: jepace@tigger.pacehouse.com Reply-To: "James E. Pace" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pcm sound device stopped working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Url: http://www.pobox.com/~jepace X-Pgp-Fingerprint: 8C E7 12 5A 3A 8C 5C 4D EC 15 7B 65 EA 82 D2 BF X-Pgp-Keyid: A49EA4D9 X-Files: The Truth Is Out There MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a soundblaster live installed in my system: pcm1: port 0x1060-0x107f irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0 Last week, I was able to play MP3s and CDs with no problems (4.x-STABLE from a few weeks back). On Friday (10/6) I updated to 4.1.1-STABLE. I can still play CDs with xmcd, but now when I used mpg123 (which I have reinstalled, including all the dependencies), I saw: $ mpg123 some_song.mp3 High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3. Version 0.59r (1999/Jun/15). Written and copyrights by Michael Hipp. Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more! THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT: Invalid argument Audio device open for 44.1Khz, stereo, 16bit failed Trying 44.1Khz, 8bit stereo. [...] I noticed that sys/dev/sound/pci/emu10k1.c was updated on Sunday, so I rebuilt the kernel with source downloaded early this morning. Now, when I play MP3's it appears they play BACKWARDS! GQmpeg counts down (quickly) and the music is all hosed. What's up? Thanks, -James Pace This letter brought to you by: ************************************* ** James E. Pace ** ** http://www.pobox.com/~jepace ** ******************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 17:48:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alaska.net (wellspring.nwc.alaska.net [209.112.130.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C8737B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alaska.net (grpcdial.alaska.net [209.112.134.74]) by alaska.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA02338 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:48:52 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <39E26772.7440E5A6@alaska.net> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 16:48:50 -0800 From: nospam X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stable Subject: Fatal Trap 12 (roboot) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Sunday I received a 'Fatal Trap 12' and had a spontaneous reboot on a 4.1.1-Stable box. During this time I was playing some mp3's and compiling a port. Can anyone tell me what a 'Fatal Trap 12' is? dmesg shows this error occurs at at startup ... isa0 too many dependent configs (8) isa0 unexpected small tag 14 ... Does anyone know what this boot message means? Thanks. Thanks! JasonN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 17:51: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F103437B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1061) id 6CE5F2B27D; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:50:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:50:54 -0500 From: David Drum To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipf vs. ipfw ? Message-ID: <20001009195054.A73207@elvis.mu.org> Mail-Followup-To: David Drum , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001008224359.R31338@speedy.gsinet> <20001009193445.T31338@speedy.gsinet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001009193445.T31338@speedy.gsinet>; from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 07:34:45PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoth Gerhard Sittig: > BTW: Did anyone miss the possibility to use (shell like) variables > in ipf rules, too? Is there someone who did something to achieve this? It isn't pretty, but I use: firewall_type="/etc/ipfw.conf" firewall_flags="-p/etc/ipfw.preproc.sh -DIP=1.2.3.4" in /etc/rc.conf. Then, /etc/ipfw.preproc.sh contains: #!/bin/sh cpp -P $@ | grep '[a-z]' The grep supresses blank lines that would otherwise confuse ipfw. Last but not least, /etc/ipfw.conf looks like this: add deny ip from IP to any in add allow icmp from any to IP icmptype 0,3,8,11 add allow icmp from IP to any etc. I've only provided a few rules as an example. ipfw -a list gives: 0300 0 0 deny ip from 1.2.3.4 to any in 1900 0 0 allow icmp from any to 1.2.3.4 icmptype 0,3,8,11 2000 0 0 allow icmp from 1.2.3.4 to any Regards, David Drum david@mu.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 17:53:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC41937B66D for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27616; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:53:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200010100053.RAA27616@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: `time make buildworld' In-Reply-To: from Ken Bolingbroke at "Oct 6, 0 11:54:00 pm" To: freebsd@bolingbroke.com (Ken Bolingbroke) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:53:10 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Ken Bolingbroke wrote: > > I previously mentioned my adventures upgrading a Pentium 133 from 2.2.5 to > 4.1.1, but I'm noting some odd behavior with the length of time it takes > to buildworld: > > -Running 2.2.5, buildworld to 2.2.8-S, ~11 hours > > -Running 2.2.8-S, buildworld to 3.2-S, ~12 hours > > -Running 3.2-S, buildworld to 3.5-S, ~12 hours > > -Cheated, ran buildworld on a PII-350 for 4.1.1-S, 1 hour, 54 minutes, > then ran installworld over NFS > > -Running 4.1.1-S, buildworld 4.1.1-S, 74 hours, 53 minutes. A couple of datapoints: -Running 2.1.7-S on a 486DX/50, 12 hours -Running 2.2.8-S on a PPro200, 3 hours -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 17:58:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diskfarm.firehouse.net (rdu25-12-043.nc.rr.com [24.25.12.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F3C37B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from abc@localhost) by diskfarm.firehouse.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9A10hi99570 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:00:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from abc) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:00:43 -0400 From: Alan Clegg To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: username with - Message-ID: <20001009210043.A98723@diskfarm.firehouse.net> References: <200010091802.MAA13347@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from DougB@gorean.org on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 05:43:19PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To those that wish to allow "." (dot) in usernames, please don't do this. Note commands like chown that use it (dot) as a seperator between login name and group. chown -R abc.staff . Having login names with dots in them confuses the heck out of this command. AlanC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 18: 5:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4978637B66C for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id DBC9A1360D; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:05:23 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Alan Clegg Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: username with - Message-ID: <20001009210523.B12559@peitho.fxp.org> References: <200010091802.MAA13347@harmony.village.org> <20001009210043.A98723@diskfarm.firehouse.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001009210043.A98723@diskfarm.firehouse.net>; from abc@bsdi.com on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 09:00:43PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 09:00:43PM -0400, Alan Clegg wrote: > To those that wish to allow "." (dot) in usernames, please don't do > this. Note commands like chown that use it (dot) as a seperator between > login name and group. > > chown -R abc.staff . > > Having login names with dots in them confuses the heck out of this command. > From chown(8): SYNOPSIS chown [-fhv] [-R [-H | -L | -P]] owner[:group] file ... chown [-fhv] [-R [-H | -L | -P]] :group file ... ... COMPATIBILITY Previous versions of the chown utility used the dot (``.'') character to distinguish the group name. This has been changed to be a colon (``:'') character so that user and group names may contain the dot character. -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 18: 5:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C2737B66C for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27750; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:05:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200010100105.SAA27750@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Security problem with "script"? In-Reply-To: from Chris BeHanna at "Oct 7, 0 04:41:13 pm" To: behanna@zbzoom.net Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:05:25 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Chris BeHanna wrote: > On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > > No. script forks a shell. sudo tells you to do that as root. It is > > merely complying. > > Er, wouldn't that give a user root access to do anything he or she > wanted? Not unless said user was in the sudoers list, and allowed to run a shell (or something that can spawn a shell, like vi). Security is not simple, and is always diametrically opposed to convenience. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 18: 6:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from terminus.rootprompt.net (mail.rootprompt.net [208.53.161.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BD537B66E for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jove (recon.rootprompt.net [192.168.1.2]) by terminus.rootprompt.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EC2F145C02 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:06:43 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "Robert Banniza" To: Subject: RE: ipf vs. ipfw ? Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:07:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20001009195054.A73207@elvis.mu.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Guys, I know this may be a little off topic considering this is the "stable" mailing list but for those that need help with setting up a firewall using ipfw, I have created a HOWTO on the subject including the rules that I used at the time. The URL is http://www.rootprompt.net/freebsd_firewall.html. I have taken quite a bit from the FreeBSD community and I thought I would give back by creating something that would have/did help me out. Enjoy... Robert -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David Drum Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:51 PM To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipf vs. ipfw ? Quoth Gerhard Sittig: > BTW: Did anyone miss the possibility to use (shell like) variables > in ipf rules, too? Is there someone who did something to achieve this? It isn't pretty, but I use: firewall_type="/etc/ipfw.conf" firewall_flags="-p/etc/ipfw.preproc.sh -DIP=1.2.3.4" in /etc/rc.conf. Then, /etc/ipfw.preproc.sh contains: #!/bin/sh cpp -P $@ | grep '[a-z]' The grep supresses blank lines that would otherwise confuse ipfw. Last but not least, /etc/ipfw.conf looks like this: add deny ip from IP to any in add allow icmp from any to IP icmptype 0,3,8,11 add allow icmp from IP to any etc. I've only provided a few rules as an example. ipfw -a list gives: 0300 0 0 deny ip from 1.2.3.4 to any in 1900 0 0 allow icmp from any to 1.2.3.4 icmptype 0,3,8,11 2000 0 0 allow icmp from 1.2.3.4 to any Regards, David Drum david@mu.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 18: 8:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diskfarm.firehouse.net (rdu25-12-043.nc.rr.com [24.25.12.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649DE37B66E for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from abc@localhost) by diskfarm.firehouse.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9A1Af699743; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:10:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from abc) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:10:41 -0400 From: Alan Clegg To: Chris Faulhaber Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: username with - Message-ID: <20001009211041.D98723@diskfarm.firehouse.net> References: <200010091802.MAA13347@harmony.village.org> <20001009210043.A98723@diskfarm.firehouse.net> <20001009210523.B12559@peitho.fxp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20001009210523.B12559@peitho.fxp.org>; from jedgar@fxp.org on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 09:05:23PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Unless the network is lying to me again, Chris Faulhaber said: > On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 09:00:43PM -0400, Alan Clegg wrote: > > Having login names with dots in them confuses the heck out of this command. > Previous versions of the chown utility used the dot (``.'') character to > distinguish the group name. This has been changed to be a colon (``:'') > character so that user and group names may contain the dot character. "ouch!" Well, *I* use dots, so don't do that out of respect, OK? 8-) AlanC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 18:20:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C0337B503; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27948; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:20:17 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200010100120.SAA27948@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: make buildworld failing In-Reply-To: <39E0A543.971488AD@urx.com> from Kent Stewart at "Oct 8, 0 09:48:03 am" To: kstewart@urx.com Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:20:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: marko@FreeBSD.ORG, sjmudd@pobox.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I would remove /usr/obj/* before I try again. You will have to > cd /usr/obj > chflags -R noschg * > rm -rf * Or, create a new filesystem "/obj" and a symlink /usr/obj -> /obj. Then, you can mount /obj async, and "newfs" it before a build. Both major time savers. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 18:40:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ponzi.oit.umass.edu (mailhub.oit.umass.edu [128.119.166.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D3237B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by ponzi.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #38130) id <0G2600A01XYM8I@ponzi.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wilde.oit.umass.edu (wilde.oit.umass.edu [128.119.166.168]) by ponzi.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #38130) with ESMTP id <0G26006K4XYMK9@ponzi.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Oct 2000 21:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (gp@localhost) by wilde.oit.umass.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA04067 for ; Mon, 09 Oct 2000 21:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 21:40:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Pavelcak Subject: Laptop <-> Desktop by ethernet X-Sender: gp@wilde.oit.umass.edu To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Authentication-warning: wilde.oit.umass.edu: gp owned process doing -bs Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I want to attch my laptop and desktop by ethernet. - Both are running -stable supped and built a couple of weeks ago. - The desktop has an intel etherexpress pro at fxp0. I know it works because I use it for my DHCP cable connection. - I'm confident my hosts and exports files are OK because I have mounted file systems of each machine on the other using lp0. - The pccard is found and pccardd assigns ed0 to my linksys etherfast pcmpc100. - dhclient also worked on my laptop where I work. - I got myself a crossover cable to connect the two machines directly, but when I try to mount a file system from either machine on the other I get NFS Portmap: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to send I have tried ifconfig at the command line and using sysinstall to try to set these up, but no luck. I thought I was past the hard part when my pccard seemed to be set up properly. It's probably just my ignorance showing again. Any pointers greatly appreciated. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 18:59:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB9337B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9A1x0Y10588; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:59:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA16674; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:58:59 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010100158.TAA16674@harmony.village.org> To: Bill Moran Subject: Re: Anyone using adaptec 29160 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:07:37 EDT." <39E25DC9.42D0684C@columbus.rr.com> References: <39E25DC9.42D0684C@columbus.rr.com> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:58:59 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <39E25DC9.42D0684C@columbus.rr.com> Bill Moran writes: : Anyone using an Adaptec 29160 SCSI controller? ( It's pretty new and I : know it's not technically supported, but I was wondering if anyone had : tried it and got it working? For example, does it emulate another : Adaptec adapter? Will another adaptec driver work with it? Timeline : forces me to be sure before I purchase. : Any feedback is greatly appreciated (works, doesn't work, etc) I'm using the 19160, the younger brother of the 29160. It works great! Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 19: 4:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0C837B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-216-7-178-17.sirius.net ([216.7.178.17] helo=workhorse.my.domain) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13ionA-0004dy-00; Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:05:20 -0700 Received: from zeus.berkeley.edu (zeus [10.0.0.3]) by workhorse.my.domain (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9A2LNm08725; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:21:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leonard@ssl.berkeley.edu) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> X-Sender: leonard@yikes.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:06:31 -0700 To: kline@tao.thought.org From: Leonard Chung Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Almost all modern IDE and SCSI drives use the same drive mechanism between them, so their reliability is the same. Leonard ----------------------------- I'll stick in my dime's worth, and ask a question about IDE drives in general. Re Fujitsu, in 1991 I bought a 1.08G SCSI drive mfg by them that ran flawlessly for 8+ years before it died. Consider this simply another data-point. The question: How reliable are the new IDE drives? Is there any published research comparing SCSI and IDE reliability? gary > - -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix -- Leonard Chung - SETI@home - The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence @ home http://www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 19:49:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CBA37B670 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA02823; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:49:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-72.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.72) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id smaa02818; Mon Oct 9 21:49:01 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20001009213116.00d8c5c0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 21:47:23 -0500 To: chad@DCFinc.com, freebsd@bolingbroke.com (Ken Bolingbroke) From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: `time make buildworld' Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200010100053.RAA27616@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:53 PM 10/9/00 -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: >As I recall, Ken Bolingbroke wrote: > > > > I previously mentioned my adventures upgrading a Pentium 133 from 2.2.5 to > > 4.1.1, but I'm noting some odd behavior with the length of time it takes > > to buildworld: > > > > -Running 2.2.5, buildworld to 2.2.8-S, ~11 hours > > > > -Running 2.2.8-S, buildworld to 3.2-S, ~12 hours > > > > -Running 3.2-S, buildworld to 3.5-S, ~12 hours > > > > -Cheated, ran buildworld on a PII-350 for 4.1.1-S, 1 hour, 54 minutes, > > then ran installworld over NFS > > > > -Running 4.1.1-S, buildworld 4.1.1-S, 74 hours, 53 minutes. > >A couple of datapoints: > > -Running 2.1.7-S on a 486DX/50, 12 hours > -Running 2.2.8-S on a PPro200, 3 hours About 1:45 for a dual PPro200, which hasn't changed much since April. Fairly certain the 3.x generally took a bit longer to run. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 19:55:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3503837B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA14661; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:53:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:53:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Warner Losh Cc: Bill Moran , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone using adaptec 29160 In-Reply-To: <200010100158.TAA16674@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Warner Losh wrote: >In message <39E25DC9.42D0684C@columbus.rr.com> Bill Moran writes: >: Anyone using an Adaptec 29160 SCSI controller? ( It's pretty new and I >: know it's not technically supported, but I was wondering if anyone had >: tried it and got it working? For example, does it emulate another >: Adaptec adapter? Will another adaptec driver work with it? Timeline >: forces me to be sure before I purchase. >: Any feedback is greatly appreciated (works, doesn't work, etc) > >I'm using the 19160, the younger brother of the 29160. It works >great! I'm glad Warner is having better luck. I don't know which variant of the 29160 you are looking at Bill, but I still don't have my two controllers working. I have a motherboard (Supermicro 370DL3) with an onboard 29160 (Adaptec AIC7892) plus an additional 64-bit PCI 29160 sitting in it. When installating 4.1-RELEASE these controllers will hang at random points during installation. When installing 4.1.1-RELEASE they panic on boot during the probe. When installing recent -current snaps on the machine the same thing also happens. The only revision of the driver that seems to install and boot fine on this combination is src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.c,v1.47. I have not had time to collect additional information on the panic's as I'm just finishing up a theatre production which has taken much of my time. Hopefully at some point I can sit down with a serial console and a debug kernel and get Justin the specifics he needs to fix it. Be forewarned. I hate to tell you this, and hope if you do buy one you'll have better luck. I don't know what else to tell you to buy, since these are in my opinion the best SCSI controllers on the market right now. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 20:19:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA3337B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA06737; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:19:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-72.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.72) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma006543; Mon Oct 9 22:19:04 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20001009220302.022398f0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 22:16:52 -0500 To: Brian Somers , Arley Carter From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: ahc driver problem Cc: Steven Farmer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@Awfulhak.org In-Reply-To: <200010092310.e99NAEs13560@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:10 AM 10/10/00 +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > > I can report the same failure. My config dmesg is attached to this > > message. The ahc driver put on the 4.1 Release CD works and the system > > boots and operates with no problems detected. This problem occurs when > > the machine is booted from the new GENERIC kernel built from sources > > cvsup'd Saturday Oct. 7. Therefore some change committed between these two > > dates broke the driver. I have not tried building current. Is this > > problem also present in current or only stable? > >It's in -current too. Reverting /sys/dev/aic7xxx to 20000920 makes >life easier. Fetched -stable at 20:25 GMT on the 7th and was rewarded with a panic and solid wedge when trying to get a core dump (SCSI activity lights solid, no response from cap/num/scroll lock). Also the dump would have been to an IDE drive. Re-fetched and upgrade around 8:40 GMT on the 9th. However, do not have v1.3.2.8 of aic7xxx_freebsd.c that Justin committed today, which may not be related to the recent -stable problems. So far so good. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 20:51: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yggdrasil.ecosine.com.tw (yggdrasil.ecosine.com.tw [211.21.163.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B1E3A37B66D for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 76979 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2000 03:50:53 -0000 Received: from rtfm.ecosine.com.tw (@192.168.0.7) by yggdrasil.ecosine.com.tw with SMTP; 10 Oct 2000 03:50:53 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:50:51 +0800 (CST) From: Tai-hwa Liang To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: md hangs in 4.1.1R Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I've followed the man page to create, mount a md device and perform postfix(snapshot-20001005) compilation on it; however, the building process just hung after some(heavily?) I/O operations. According to the advised "ps axl," it seems that the building process was hung on process with "MD sec" in the WCHAN field. It's completely reproducible on my laptop(tested on 4.1-RELEASE & 4.1.1-RELEASE). Sometimes the "MD sec" appeared on 'syncer', sometimes the 'bufdaemon' stuck in it. Following snapshot appears it just stuck in the 'cp' process. UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 0 0 0 0 -18 0 0 0 sched DLs ?? 0:00.01 (swapper) 0 1 0 0 10 0 456 288 wait ILs ?? 0:00.03 /sbin/init -- 0 2 0 0 -18 0 0 0 psleep DL ?? 0:00.01 (pagedaemon) 0 3 0 0 18 0 0 0 psleep DL ?? 0:00.00 (vmdaemon) 0 4 0 0 -18 0 0 0 psleep DL ?? 0:00.17 (bufdaemon) 0 5 0 0 -2 0 0 0 getblk DL ?? 0:00.57 (syncer) 0 33 1 6 18 0 208 92 pause Is ?? 0:00.00 adjkerntz -i 0 96 1 0 2 0 908 612 select Ss ?? 0:00.08 syslogd -s 0 122 1 0 2 0 1512 1068 select Is ?? 0:00.87 /usr/local/sbin/sshd 1000 6113 1 0 2 0 1152 812 select Ss ?? 0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/ssh-agent 0 252 1 0 18 0 1376 1032 pause Is v0 0:00.22 -tcsh (tcsh) 1000 5536 252 0 18 0 1376 1032 pause I v0 0:00.16 -su (tcsh) 1000 5559 5536 8 10 0 1008 676 wait I+ v0 0:00.02 make PATH=.:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin 1000 5978 5559 8 10 0 628 432 wait I+ v0 0:00.00 /bin/sh -ec make MAKELEVEL= update 1000 5979 5978 8 10 0 1012 688 wait I+ v0 0:00.02 make MAKELEVEL= update 1000 5980 5979 168 10 0 628 432 wait I+ v0 0:00.01 /bin/sh -ec set -e; for i in src/util src/global src/dns src/master src/postfix src/smtpstone src/sendmail src/error src/pickup src/cleanup src/smtpd src/local src/lmtp src/trivial-rewrite src/qmgr src/smtp src/bounce src/pipe src/showq src/postalias src/postcat src/postconf src/postdrop src/postkick src/postlock src/postlog src/postmap src/postsuper src/nqmgr src/spawn src/flush; do (set -e; echo "[$i]"; cd $i; make "CC=gcc -Wmissing-prototypes -Wformat" update MAKELEVEL=) || exit 1; done 1000 7442 5980 171 10 0 1080 764 wait I+ v0 0:00.05 make CC=gcc -Wmissing-prototypes -Wformat update MAKELEVEL= 1000 7477 7442 171 -20 0 688 108 MD sec D+ v0 0:00.00 cp lmtp ../../libexec 1000 188 1 3 18 0 1376 1028 pause Ss v1 0:00.22 -tcsh (tcsh) 1000 7501 188 3 28 0 416 256 - R+ v1 0:00.00 ps axlwww 0 189 1 0 3 0 920 624 ttyin Is+ v2 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv2 Furthermore, if the building process was hung, it's noway to break the process with ^C. If I issue a 'shutdown -h now' at this moment, the system would try to flush the buffer and failed with "syncer...timed out." Shutting down daemon processes:. Oct 10 11:06:27 brahms syslogd: exiting on signal 15 Oct 10 11:06:27 init: some processes would not die; ps axl advised Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...timed out syncing disks... 192 192 192 192 192 192 192 192 192 192 192 192 192 192 192 192 192 192 192 192 1: dev:#md/2, flags:21021024, blkno:65712, lblkno:65712 2: dev:#md/2, flags:21021024, blkno:20112, lblkno:-12 3: dev:#md/2, flags:21021024, blkno:81328, lblkno:12 4: dev:#md/2, flags:21021024, blkno:65648, lblkno:65648 5: dev:#md/2, flags:21021024, blkno:80912, lblkno:1 6: dev:#md/2, flags:21021024, blkno:81008, lblkno:56 . . . 72: dev:#md/2, flags:21021024, blkno:81376, lblkno:5 73: dev:#md/2, flags:21021024, blkno:80806, lblkno:3 giving up on 73 buffers Uptime: 2h9m22s The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot. BTW, I've tried MFS instead of MD last night. The building process worked well; however, if I reboot the system without unmounting the MFS first, the "Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process.....timed out" message just popped up again in the console. I've never encountered such problem with MFS in 2-stable & 3-stable. Is there anyone who can verify this mystic hang for me? TIA. dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE #0: Sun Oct 8 15:37:39 CST 2000 root@brahms.mmlab.cse.yzu.edu.tw:/usr/src/sys/compile/brahms Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193108 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (265.25-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 127586304 (124596K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc031b000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc031b09c. Preloaded elf module "splash_bmp.ko" at 0xc031b0ec. Preloaded splash_image_data "/boot/chuck1.bmp" at 0xc031b190. VESA: v2.0, 2048k memory, flags:0x0, mode table:0xc00c876a (c000876a) VESA: Copyright 1994 TRIDENT MICROSYSTEMS INC. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at 2.0 irq 9 isab0: at device 3.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xfcd0-0xfcdf at device 3.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 pci0: at 3.2 irq 9 chip1: port 0xff80-0xff8f at device 3.3 on pci0 pcic-pci0: at device 10.0 on pci0 pcic-pci0: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [speaker enable][FUNC pci int + CSC serial isa irq] pcic-pci1: at device 10.1 on pci0 pcic-pci1: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [speaker enable][FUNC pci int + CSC serial isa irq] atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 3 flags 0x15 on isa0 pcm0: on sbc0 pcic0: at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 irq 10 on isa0 pcic0: management irq 10 pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppi0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port plip0: on ppbus0 ad0: 3102MB [6304/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using WDMA2 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted pccard: card inserted, slot 1 kernel configuration: machine i386 ident brahms maxusers 10 makeoptions CONF_CFLAGS=-fno-builtin #Don't allow use of memcmp, etc. options MAXDSIZ="(256*1024*1024)" options DFLDSIZ="(256*1024*1024)" options BLKDEV_IOSIZE=8192 options PQ_CACHESIZE=512 # color for 512k/16k cache options ROOTDEVNAME=\"ufs:ad0s3a\" cpu I686_CPU options NO_F00F_HACK options COMPAT_43 options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options DDB options KTRACE #kernel tracing options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options INET #Internet communications protocols pseudo-device ether #Generic Ethernet pseudo-device loop #Network loopback device pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter options ACCEPT_FILTER_DATA options ACCEPT_FILTER_HTTP options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN #drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN options TCP_RESTRICT_RST #restrict emission of TCP RST options ICMP_BANDLIM options FFS #Fast filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device options SOFTUPDATES options MD_NSECT=131072 options EXT2FS options VFS_AIO options P1003_1B options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options _KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L pseudo-device pty #Pseudo ttys pseudo-device gzip #Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device vn #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device) pseudo-device md #Memory/malloc disk options MSGBUF_SIZE=40960 device isa options AUTO_EOI_1 options MAXMEM="(128*1024)" device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 options KBD_DISABLE_KEYMAP_LOAD # refuse to load a keymap device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 options PSM_HOOKRESUME #hook the system resume event, useful options PSM_RESETAFTERSUSPEND #reset the device at the resume event device vga0 at isa? options VESA pseudo-device splash device sc0 at isa? options MAXCONS=16 # number of virtual consoles device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX flags 0x0 irq 13 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 flags 0x10 irq 3 device pcm device sbc0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 3 flags 0x15 device apm0 device pci device pcic0 at isa? irq 10 device card device ed options PCIC_RESUME_RESET # reset after resume device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus device lpt device plip device ppi options NSFBUFS=1024 options INIT_PATH="/sbin/init:/stand/sysinstall" options CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION options CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION options SHOW_BUSYBUFS # List buffers that prevent root unmount -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOeKSIGi3mv/0ATqxAQGfBwP9G/2nuudTVy5RhBWDixELRBXtRTKE0lN0 Ko3VtoBPFyhDsTuVZaa+IzpiVQfnL567Ke/KKZDm0g+05tiFwxr59+Ov0PfCAC7o bDJO3alpTD9DiGyEdb5M967OBxAAYLSBNNdEEozj06AD3BabJdYphiC3TzvItuoA vd7aHI4owms= =G9UY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 20:51:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3204D37B66E for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt6-216-180-4-152.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.4.152]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9A3pS722786; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:51:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9A3o9S04888; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:50:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <200010100350.e9A3o9S04888@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Gary Kline Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive In-Reply-To: Message from Gary Kline of "Mon, 09 Oct 2000 17:08:03 PDT." <20001009170803.A18961@tao.thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 22:50:09 -0500 From: David Kelly Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gary Kline writes: > On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 04:40:13PM -0400, Robert wrote: > > Hello, > > I used to own a Compaq Proliant 800/850 (one of them) with an > > internal > > RAID 5 array with about 4 8gb Seagate Baracude(SCSI UW). I had two of the > > drives fail on me after about 4 years, due to heat and just the > > fact that we plain ran them into the ground. I have a feeling that these > > new IDE drives, much like some old SCSI drives, have problems with > > inadequate ventilation. Most of these new 7200 rpm drives (IDE) run VERY > > hot and most people do not provide proper cooling for their computers. I > > recommend to anyone who wants to extend the life of their ide > > drives to purchase the "drive cooler" product from Antec. Not only do > > they cool the drives down they have a protective dust shield where the > > fans are so you dont contribute to dirtying the components. > > > Can you explain more about these drive-coolers? URL's or > whatever would help. Don't sweat the drive cooler stuff just yet. Go to Radio Shack, Walmart, K-Mart, etc, and purchase an indoor/outdoor digital thermometer, preferably one with a max/min function. $15 to $25. Mount the outdoor probe on your HD. Then decide for yourself if the HD is too hot. I have lots of fans, an extra blowing out, an extra blowing on the HD. And the result is my FH 3.5" IBM SCSI 9G HD is running 15 degrees F over room temperature. Currenlty its 94F on the HD. Without digging up manufacturer's specs about 115F to 120F is where I'd start getting really worried. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 21:21:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hurlame.pdl.cs.cmu.edu (HURLAME.PDL.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.189.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C1437B503 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from magus@localhost) by hurlame.pdl.cs.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9A4LXl44843; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:21:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from magus) To: Gabriel Ambuehl Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: effective use of serial console References: <14817.64539.984808.362682@yertle.kciLink.com> <114201499621.20001009191732@buz.ch> From: Nat Lanza Date: 10 Oct 2000 00:21:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: Gabriel Ambuehl's message of "Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:17:32 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Channel Islands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gabriel Ambuehl writes: > I'm wondering if there's a possibility to use USB console as this > would be even better for this case because you could build some kind > of network using USB hubs where the PCs don't need to rely on their twins > for serial console access. If you got one up, you can access all of > them... And after all, USB ports are more common today than serial > ones ;-) At our lab we have a nifty homebrew program called rconsole for this. The rconsole server has a bunch of machines' serial consoles attached to it, and exports them through rconsoled, which accepts kerberos4-authenticated connections from clients and ships the requested serial console over a DES-encrypted connection. It allows for read-only access, multiple readers observing one writer, and a SIMD mode for sending keystrokes to multiple machines. There's also a delayed-return feature in the SIMD mode that sends return keystrokes to all of the consoles with a few seconds of spacing between them[1]. I keep meaning to clean it up, maybe update the krb4/DES stuff to SASL or SSL, and release it on sourceforge. --nat [1] This was originally added to keep rconsole from making the department's kerberos server think somebody was trying to predict its random number generator every time someone ran 'kinit' across a bunch of machines in parallel. -- nat lanza --------------------- research programmer, parallel data lab, cmu scs magus@cs.cmu.edu -------------------------------- http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~magus/ there are no whole truths; all truths are half-truths -- alfred north whitehead To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 21:42:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDA037B66F for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA23807; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9A4gN921138; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:42:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:42:22 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: David Kelly Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive Message-ID: <20001009214222.C20674@tao.thought.org> References: <200010100350.e9A3o9S04888@nospam.hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200010100350.e9A3o9S04888@nospam.hiwaay.net>; from dkelly@hiwaay.net on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 10:50:09PM -0500 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 10:50:09PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: > Gary Kline writes: > > On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 04:40:13PM -0400, Robert wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I used to own a Compaq Proliant 800/850 (one of them) with an > > > internal > > > RAID 5 array with about 4 8gb Seagate Baracude(SCSI UW). I had two of the > > > drives fail on me after about 4 years, due to heat and just the > > > fact that we plain ran them into the ground. I have a feeling that these > > > new IDE drives, much like some old SCSI drives, have problems with > > > inadequate ventilation. Most of these new 7200 rpm drives (IDE) run VERY > > > hot and most people do not provide proper cooling for their computers. I > > > recommend to anyone who wants to extend the life of their ide > > > drives to purchase the "drive cooler" product from Antec. Not only do > > > they cool the drives down they have a protective dust shield where the > > > fans are so you dont contribute to dirtying the components. > > > > > > Can you explain more about these drive-coolers? URL's or > > whatever would help. > > Don't sweat the drive cooler stuff just yet. Go to Radio Shack, > Walmart, K-Mart, etc, and purchase an indoor/outdoor digital > thermometer, preferably one with a max/min function. $15 to $25. Mount > the outdoor probe on your HD. Then decide for yourself if the HD is too > hot. I have lots of fans, an extra blowing out, an extra blowing on the > HD. And the result is my FH 3.5" IBM SCSI 9G HD is running 15 degrees F > over room temperature. Currenlty its 94F on the HD. > > Without digging up manufacturer's specs about 115F to 120F is where I'd > start getting really worried. > Well, right now I'm not sweating anything. I have (and have had) extra fans in both my FBSD homebrew boxes. The e-machines had only one IDE and should be fine. But when I replace _this_ system with a new one, will it be okay with two extra devices crammed in? Good idea about the i/o thermometer, thanks. (I'm still buying more fans, whatever the temp reads... .) gary PS: My ancient Fujitsu got so hot that I couldn't touch it... > -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 22: 9:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2329C37B66D for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9A598Y11251; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:09:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA18135; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:09:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010100509.XAA18135@harmony.village.org> To: Leonard Chung Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive Cc: kline@tao.thought.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:06:31 PDT." <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 23:09:07 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> Leonard Chung writes: : Almost all modern IDE and SCSI drives use the same drive mechanism between : them, so their reliability is the same. I've had way more problems with IDE drives going south than SCSI. Most of the IDE drives still are 5400rpm, while most scsi drives run at 7200 or 10000. The low end of scsi is higher than the low end of IDE. The low end of IDE redefines junk. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 22:12:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E06537B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9A5CHY11278; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:12:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA18181; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:12:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010100512.XAA18181@harmony.village.org> To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Subject: Re: Anyone using adaptec 29160 Cc: Bill Moran , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Oct 2000 22:53:41 EDT." References: Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 23:12:16 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What kind of drives were connected to them? I have u2w drives and have been using this since early 4.0-stable. My latest kernel is from August 15th. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 22:44:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA8137B66E for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA34620; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:41:58 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:41:58 +0700 (NSS) From: Max Khon To: Alan Clegg Cc: Chris Faulhaber , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: username with - In-Reply-To: <20001009211041.D98723@diskfarm.firehouse.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, there! On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Alan Clegg wrote: > > > Having login names with dots in them confuses the heck out of this command. > > > Previous versions of the chown utility used the dot (``.'') character to > > distinguish the group name. This has been changed to be a colon (``:'') > > character so that user and group names may contain the dot character. > > "ouch!" Well, *I* use dots, so don't do that out of respect, OK? 8-) solaris and linux also use ':' to distinguish group name /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 9 23:46: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6136537B502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A5A54A84A; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:45:52 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DC15459; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:45:52 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:45:52 +1000 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au To: Max Khon Cc: Alan Clegg , Chris Faulhaber , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: username with - In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Max Khon wrote: > solaris and linux also use ':' to distinguish group name From memory (and I haven't checked) : is required by the SUS but . is needed for backward compatability. Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 0:28:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AB837B66C for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9A7SUi11936; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:28:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id BAA24147; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:28:24 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010100728.BAA24147@harmony.village.org> To: Max Khon Subject: Re: username with - Cc: Alan Clegg , Chris Faulhaber , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:41:58 +0700." References: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:28:24 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Max Khon writes: : solaris and linux also use ':' to distinguish group name So does FreeBSD. '.' is recognized as a compatibility hack for now. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 1: 1: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE6137B66E for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA01573; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:00:45 -0700 Message-ID: <39E2CCAD.92B22E96@urx.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:00:45 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: Scott Dodson , Jon Paterson , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Correct sequence for keeping a 4.1 system stable. References: <39E20B55.B57B7A25@urx.com> <200010090647.AAA09610@harmony.village.org> <200010091823.MAA13573@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <39E20B55.B57B7A25@urx.com> Kent Stewart writes: > : What kind of errors are you looking for? The 4.0-R to 4.1.1-S > : buildworld upgrade that I was watching finished last night. Because of > : this thread I did a buildkernel KERNEL=GENERIC and that went without > : errors. There were a couple of warning message in the buildkernel but > : that was it. The buildworld output far really to large to page down > : through. > > No errors after you run mergemaster on reboot? I think that I get > some files not existing messages from newsyslog on a reboot that far > apart. Never saw an unexpected error message during the build and installs. I had to backup because I had added the compat stuff to /etc/make.conf after the buildworld. That was an oops. Commenting them out and redoing the installworld was successful. I was able to stay online while the installworld was running. I ran Mergemaster and it looked like it was successful. Never saw any messages at boot time. I am going to check back in the morning an see if anything happened when some of the cron's fire up. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 1:14:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from atrn.bpa.nu (CPE-144-132-209-248.nsw.bigpond.net.au [144.132.209.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C57337B66C for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from juju.bsn (juju.bsn [192.168.1.5]) by atrn.bpa.nu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03211; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:16:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andy@ska.bsn) Received: (from andy@localhost) by juju.bsn (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e9A8Fcq36402; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:15:38 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from andy) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:15:38 +1100 From: Andy Newman To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: Warner Losh , Bill Moran , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone using adaptec 29160 Message-ID: <20001010191538.A36348@juju.bsn> Mail-Followup-To: Andy Newman , "Brandon D. Valentine" , Warner Losh , Bill Moran , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200010100158.TAA16674@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from bandix@looksharp.net on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 10:53:41PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > > >In message <39E25DC9.42D0684C@columbus.rr.com> Bill Moran writes: > >: Anyone using an Adaptec 29160 SCSI controller? > > > >I'm using the 19160, the younger brother of the 29160. It works > >great! > > I'm glad Warner is having better luck. I don't know which variant of > the 29160 you are looking at Bill, but I still don't have my two > controllers working. Just a status update for those in the 29160 saga. I have a machine with Via chipset + 29160 + Cheetah drives. Hit the bad firmware thing and got over it. Had troubles with Vinum's RAID 5 - a few PRs point at the issue - but RAID 0 is okay. CVSup'd yesterday to pick up the U160 support in ahc. Build went fine etc... Try bonnie to get a "bonnie-mark" on the array. Got the following... Significant dmesg output... FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE #0: Sun Oct 8 10:32:40 EST 2000 ... ahc0: port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xe2000000-0xe2000fff irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 aic7892: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ... da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8750MB (17921835 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1115C) da3 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da3: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da3: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da2: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da4 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da4: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da4: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) During the "writing intelligently" portion of a bonnie run (which I figure is just good sized block output)... (da2:ahc0:0:2:0): SCB 0x74 - timed out in Message-in phase, SEQADDR == 0x146 sg[0] - Addr 0x132e1000 : Length 4096 sg[1] - Addr 0x165a2000 : Length 4096 sg[2] - Addr 0x14f03000 : Length 4096 sg[3] - Addr 0x133a4000 : Length 4096 sg[4] - Addr 0x12e5000 : Length 4096 sg[5] - Addr 0x1a4c6000 : Length 4096 sg[6] - Addr 0x16ce7000 : Length 4096 sg[7] - Addr 0x14b68000 : Length -2147479552 (da2:ahc0:0:2:0): Other SCB Timeout (da3:ahc0:0:3:0): SCB 0x8c - timed out in Message-in phase, SEQADDR == 0x146 sg[0] - Addr 0x16b69000 : Length 4096 sg[1] - Addr 0x123ea000 : Length 4096 sg[2] - Addr 0x15a6b000 : Length 4096 sg[3] - Addr 0xdeec000 : Length 4096 sg[4] - Addr 0x15eed000 : Length 4096 sg[5] - Addr 0xe48e000 : Length 4096 sg[6] - Addr 0x4d8f000 : Length 4096 sg[7] - Addr 0xebb0000 : Length -2147479552 (da3:ahc0:0:3:0): BDR message in message buffer (da3:ahc0:0:3:0): SCB 0x97 - timed out in Message-in phase, SEQADDR == 0x16c sg[0] - Addr 0x13161000 : Length 4096 sg[1] - Addr 0x166e2000 : Length 4096 sg[2] - Addr 0x145c3000 : Length 4096 sg[3] - Addr 0x14104000 : Length 4096 sg[4] - Addr 0x1f585000 : Length 4096 sg[5] - Addr 0x18a86000 : Length 4096 sg[6] - Addr 0x16b67000 : Length 4096 sg[7] - Addr 0x15f68000 : Length 4096 sg[8] - Addr 0x168c9000 : Length 4096 sg[9] - Addr 0x75aa000 : Length 4096 sg[10] - Addr 0x155eb000 : Length 4096 sg[11] - Addr 0xfcac000 : Length 4096 sg[12] - Addr 0x1724d000 : Length 4096 sg[13] - Addr 0xe4ce000 : Length 4096 sg[14] - Addr 0x692f000 : Length 4096 sg[15] - Addr 0xe9f0000 : Length -2147479552 (da3:ahc0:0:3:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 154 SCBs aborted Also of note is that under load the Ethernet can report... xl0: transmission error: 90 xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 120 bytes xl0: transmission error: 90 xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 180 bytes xl0: transmission error: 90 xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 240 bytes xl0: transmission error: 90 xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 300 bytes xl0: transmission error: 90 xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 360 bytes Which I gather is to do with bus hogging, i.e, the 29160. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 1:29: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8158F37B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA39981; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:25:26 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:25:25 +0700 (NSS) From: Max Khon To: Warner Losh Cc: Alan Clegg , Chris Faulhaber , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: username with - In-Reply-To: <200010100728.BAA24147@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, there! On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message Max Khon writes: > : solaris and linux also use ':' to distinguish group name > > So does FreeBSD. '.' is recognized as a compatibility hack for now. *nod*. Just a note that ':' is closer to standards de facto (and IIRC Single Unix Spec.) /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 1:52:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F6F37B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA35613 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:52:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28888 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:52:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9A8qQa93566 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:52:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:52:26 +0200 From: Gunnar Flygt To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Trying to make the doc's Message-ID: <20001010105226.G90820@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt Mail-Followup-To: Gunnar Flygt , FreeBSD Stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cvsup'ed a few minutes ago and then tried to make the documentation in /usr/doc. It usually works OK for the en_US.ISO_8859-1 part which is OK for me. Today it broke after a short while producing the following: ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -ioutput.html.images -c /usr /doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/../../../en_US.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/sh are/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/.. /../../share/sgml/default.dsl -t sgml /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.s gml tidy -i -m -f /dev/null `xargs < HTML.manifest` *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -ioutput.html.images -V nochunks -c /usr/doc/ en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/../../../en_US.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/ doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/s gml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /u sr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/../../. ./share/sgml/default.dsl -t sgml /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml > book.html tidy -i -m -f /dev/null book.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer make: don't know how to make callouts/1.png. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc. Anyone any ideas? -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) o _ _ _ _o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) _< \_ _>(_) (_)/<_ \_| \ _|/' \/ (_)>(_) (_) (_) (_) (_)' _\o_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 3:23: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fling.sanbi.ac.za (fling.sanbi.ac.za [196.38.142.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F65537B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 03:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johann by fling.sanbi.ac.za with local (Exim 3.13 #4) id 13iwY6-000L0X-00; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:22:18 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:22:18 +0200 From: Johann Visagie To: Gunnar Flygt Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Trying to make the doc's Message-ID: <20001010122218.E97972@fling.sanbi.ac.za> References: <20001010105226.G90820@sr.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001010105226.G90820@sr.se>; from gunnar@pluto.sr.se on Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 10:52:26AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gunnar Flygt on 2000-10-10 (Tue) at 10:52:26 +0200: > > cvsup'ed a few minutes ago and then tried to make the documentation in > /usr/doc. It usually works OK for the en_US.ISO_8859-1 part which is OK > for me. Today it broke after a short while producing the following: [ ... ] > ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer > make: don't know how to make callouts/1.png. Stop > *** Error code 2 Same has been happening here on an old 3-STABLE machine for some days now. I've deinstalled the docproj meta-port and all its dependencies, then reinstalled the latest versions, but to no avail. Haven't had the time yet to dig into it any further. -- Johann To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 4:57:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proton.hexanet.fr (proton.hexanet.fr [194.98.140.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E77E37B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 04:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proton.hexanet.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proton.hexanet.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03700 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:57:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nighty@proton.hexanet.fr) Message-Id: <200010101157.NAA03700@proton.hexanet.fr> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 From: "Christophe Prevotaux" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using adaptec 29160 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 09 Oct 2000 23:12:16 MDT." <200010100512.XAA18181@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:57:07 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > What kind of drives were connected to them? I have u2w drives and > have been using this since early 4.0-stable. My latest kernel is from > August 15th. > > Warner I use a 29160N and LVD drives and I have problems with as reported before in o [2000/10/06] misc/21782 4.1.1 and ADAPTEC 29160N SCSI controller > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- -- =================================================================== Christophe Prevotaux Email: chris@hexanet.fr HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ Z.A Farman Sud Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 9 rue Roland Coffignot Direct: +33 (0)3 26 79 08 02 BP415 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 51689 Reims Cedex 2 FRANCE =================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 5:15:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rnocserv.urc.ac.ru (rnocserv.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2111837B66C; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urc.ac.ru (belle.rnoc.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.10]) by rnocserv.urc.ac.ru (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9ACEv519059; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:14:59 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from anton@urc.ac.ru) Message-ID: <39E30840.53E8D667@urc.ac.ru> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:14:56 +0600 From: Anton Voronin Organization: URC FREEnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [ru ] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: security@freebsd.org Subject: rc & diskless bug Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! /etc/rc checks $1 against "autoboot" after it runs /etc/rc.diskless1. But as the latter uses "set" command, it clears the command line, and so /etc/rc fails to check for autoboot mode, so it doesn't run fsck, and so fails to mount local filesystems (for example, I have /tmp mounted locally). Regards, Anton -- Anton Voronin Ural Regional Center of FREEnet, Southern Ural State University, Chelyabinsk, Russia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 5:21:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (mail0.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B20F37B66D for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bellsouth.net (adsl-61-188-218.bna.bellsouth.net [208.61.188.218]) by mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id IAA15293; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39E30B3A.AAF9B7BF@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:27:38 -0500 From: Drew Sanford X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Pavelcak Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Laptop <-> Desktop by ethernet References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg, I'm not much of an NFS guru, but I'll try to help you narrow this down a little: > I want to attch my laptop and desktop by ethernet. > > - Both are running -stable supped and built a couple of weeks ago. > - The desktop has an intel etherexpress pro at fxp0. I know it works > because I use it for my DHCP cable connection. > - I'm confident my hosts and exports files are OK because I have > mounted file systems of each machine on the other using lp0. > - The pccard is found and pccardd assigns ed0 to my linksys etherfast > pcmpc100. > - dhclient also worked on my laptop where I work. > - I got myself a crossover cable to connect the two machines directly, > but when I try to mount a file system from either machine on > the other I get > > NFS Portmap: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to send > First, when you plug in your crossover cable, do you get connection lights on your ethernet cards. I've seen more flukey crossover cables than you can imagine. Can you ping loopback? If not, then you need to recheck your TCP IP settings on that computer. Can the machines ping each other? These systems will both have to have some sort of valid IP address and netmask to talk to each other. The only difference between using a crossover cable and having a hub is that you can only have as many computers connected via crossover as you have ethernet cards. -- Drew Sanford lauasanf@bellsouth.net or drew@planetwe.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 5:31:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dcnv.com (mail.dcnv.com [216.33.117.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDB537B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from digitalconvergence.com (dallas [207.158.100.67]) by mail.dcnv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA91125; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:26:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Message-ID: <39E30BFB.8998A2E9@digitalconvergence.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:30:51 -0500 From: Alan Edmonds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Sanford Cc: Greg Pavelcak , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Laptop <-> Desktop by ethernet References: <39E30B3A.AAF9B7BF@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry I didn't notice this earlier. There is an issue with some of the Intel chipset cards and crossover cables. The summary is you can't use a crossover cable. I'm not sure exactly which Intel NIC cards are affected. It might be only trying to connect two Intel cards together that is a problem. If you can try it with a hub, it might solve your problem. There was a discussion about this on -hackers not too long ago. Here's a link to the previous discussion. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=45338+47352+/usr/local/www/db/text/1998/freebsd-hackers/19981025.freebsd-hackers -- Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology Digital:Convergence aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com Phone: +1-214-292-6040 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 6:25:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from avengers.ivision.co.uk (avengers.ivision.co.uk [212.25.224.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003EF37B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [212.25.224.7] (helo=avengers) by avengers.ivision.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #1) id 13izPQ-000764-00; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:25:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:25:32 +0100 (BST) From: Jasper Wallace X-Sender: jasper@avengers To: Alan Edmonds Cc: Drew Sanford , Greg Pavelcak , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Laptop <-> Desktop by ethernet In-Reply-To: <39E30BFB.8998A2E9@digitalconvergence.com> Message-ID: X-NCC-RegID: uk.instant-web MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Alan Edmonds wrote: > > Sorry I didn't notice this earlier. There is > an issue with some of the Intel chipset cards > and crossover cables. The summary is you can't > use a crossover cable. I'm not sure exactly which > Intel NIC cards are affected. It might be only > trying to connect two Intel cards together that > is a problem. > > If you can try it with a hub, it might solve your problem. > > There was a discussion about this on -hackers not too long > ago. Here's a link to the previous discussion. > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=45338+47352+/usr/local/www/db/text/1998/freebsd-hackers/19981025.freebsd-hackers I've used Intel Express Pro 100(+?)'s with crossover cables last night between 3.4 and 4.1. And I've definatly had one running between two fxp0 on a 4.1 system. -- Internet Vision Internet Consultancy Tel: 020 7589 4500 60 Albert Court & Web development Fax: 020 7589 4522 Prince Consort Road vision@ivision.co.uk London SW7 2BE http://www.ivision.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 6:27: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C71437B66C for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9ADQwM83837; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001010092034.08023750@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:22:12 -0400 To: Alan Edmonds From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Laptop <-> Desktop by ethernet Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <39E30BFB.8998A2E9@digitalconvergence.com> References: <39E30B3A.AAF9B7BF@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07:30 AM 10/10/00 -0500, Alan Edmonds wrote: >Sorry I didn't notice this earlier. There is >an issue with some of the Intel chipset cards >and crossover cables. The summary is you can't I think thats a fairly old problem. I regularly use the fxp cards back to back in my test bench and get expected results for some time now. Note, the URL you gave is from 1998. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 6:48:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6118137B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:48:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B71D2E443 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9ADmDx77692; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:48:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14819.7709.459535.354185@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:48:13 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial console - how-to ? In-Reply-To: <20001009101242.D29388@intelenet.net> References: <20001009101242.D29388@intelenet.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "mz" == matthew zeier writes: mz> In searching the mailing lists, I seem to get different methods to use mz> COM1 for console. I followed the method in the Handbook and it worked fine. From the looks of it, the GENERIC kernel has flags 0x10 set, so it can function as a serial console if the proper /boot.config flags are set. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 6:50:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4793C37B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7F32E443 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9ADoUm78599; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:50:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14819.7846.658046.316300@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:50:30 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: effective use of serial console In-Reply-To: <014201c03214$885aa330$524c8486@jking> References: <14817.64539.984808.362682@yertle.kciLink.com> <014201c03214$885aa330$524c8486@jking> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "JK" == Jim King writes: JK> I use reboot(8) or shutdown(8). On RARE occasions I have to call JK> the guy at my colo and have him intervene physically. Right... I just was trying to avoid having to do that if the shutdown hung for some reason, or the system was locked down too busy or some such. Having a clean reboot hot-key would be preferable to a hardware reset since the disks would avoid needing an fsck, which would take a *long* time on some of the boxes. ;-) -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 7: 9:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE30637B66C for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDB62E443; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9AE9Q493543; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:09:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14819.8982.61823.868907@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:09:26 -0400 (EDT) To: Gerhard Sittig Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipf vs. ipfw ? In-Reply-To: <20001009193445.T31338@speedy.gsinet> References: <20001008224359.R31338@speedy.gsinet> <20001009193445.T31338@speedy.gsinet> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "GS" == Gerhard Sittig writes: GS> same mechanism -- just with ipfw behind the pipe! And these GS> substitutions maybe could get nested if needed like this: GS> REPEAT S1 $SRC : REPEAT S2 $DEST : pass ... from S1 to S2 ... GS> if implemented in some intelligent way. Has someone gotten GS> behind the stage of thinking about this and actually started GS> planning or implementing it? I would be interested in different GS> thoughts. ipfw lets you pre-process a file using any arbitrary pre-processor. It recommends cpp or m4, but who's to stop you from using perl? Just make your FW rule file be a perl program and run it thusly: ipfw -p /usr/bin/perl firewall.perl and you're set. Just make sure that the output of your firewall.perl program is a valid set of firewall rules. I guess the only trick would be figuring out how to pass flags to your program. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 7:18:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B077937B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414852E443 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:18:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9AEIbd07473; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:18:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14819.9533.141056.968810@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:18:37 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: effective use of serial console In-Reply-To: References: <14817.64539.984808.362682@yertle.kciLink.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "JvR" == Janko van Roosmalen writes: JvR> I have read somewhere that the classic trick is to add an user to JvR> your system with "shutdown" as login shell. But if your system is not responding to logins, it won't help you. That's about the only time you'd use ctrl-alt-del on a physical console too. For example, your proc table is full or some other DoS attack is going on. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 7:29:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C932537B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86ABF2E443 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9AET8r49698; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:29:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14819.10164.426546.496414@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:29:08 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipf vs. ipfw ? In-Reply-To: <20001009195054.A73207@elvis.mu.org> References: <20001008224359.R31338@speedy.gsinet> <20001009193445.T31338@speedy.gsinet> <20001009195054.A73207@elvis.mu.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "DD" == David Drum writes: DD> cpp -P $@ | grep '[a-z]' DD> The grep supresses blank lines that would otherwise confuse ipfw. DD> Last but not least, /etc/ipfw.conf looks like this: That's totally unnecessary to have that shell script. You can call cpp directly and it will not confuse ipfw at all. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 7:30:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D29E37B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110D92E443 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9AEUNK53314; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:30:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14819.10239.908042.184468@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:30:23 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: username with - In-Reply-To: <20001009210043.A98723@diskfarm.firehouse.net> References: <200010091802.MAA13347@harmony.village.org> <20001009210043.A98723@diskfarm.firehouse.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "AC" == Alan Clegg writes: AC> chown -R abc.staff . AC> Having login names with dots in them confuses the heck out of this command. I believe this is why the new "preferred" form is to use a colon to separate user and group as this chown -R abc:staff . How that reacts to also having a dot, I don't know as I've never tried it. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 7:49:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tpts4.seed.net.tw (tpts4.seed.net.tw [139.175.55.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26F637B503; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from edwardc.firebird.com.tw ([211.72.53.90] helo=edwardc) by tpts4.seed.net.tw with smtp (SEEDNet Mail Server v2.313fd) id 13j0ib-0001bY-00; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:49:26 +0800 From: "Edward Chuang" To: , , Subject: "device timeout" with DFE-650 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:48:26 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG SGkgZm9sa3MsDQoNCglJJ3ZlIGJlZW4gaW5zdGFsbGVkIHRoZSBERkUtNjUwIFBDTUNJQSBFdGhl cm5ldCBBZGFwdGVyIG9uIG15IG5vdGVib29rLA0KCWFuZCBNeSA0LjEuMS1SRUxFQVNFIHN5c3Rl bSBjYW4gYmUgcmVvcmdhbml6ZSB0aGF0LCBpdCdzIHNob3dzIGNvcnJlY3QgYW5kDQoJYXNzaWdu IHRoZSBlZDAgdG8gdGhlIERGRS02NTAsIGJ1dCB3aGlsZSBpIGFtIGFzc2lnbiB0aGUgSVAgYWRk cmVzcyB0byB0aGUgZWQwDQoJdmlhIGlmY29uZmlnLCBpJ2xsIGdldCAiZWQwOiBkZXZpY2UgdGlt ZW91dCIgZXJyb3IgbWVzc2FnZSAuLg0KDQoJSSBoYXZlIHNlYXJjaCB0aGUgbWFpbGluZy1saXN0 IGZvciBwcmV2aW91cyBxdWVzdGlvbnMgYW5kIHNvbHV0aW9ucywgYnV0IEkgY2FudA0KCWZpbmQg ZXhhY3R5IGFuc3dlciBmb3IgdGhhdCwgaXMgdGhlcmUgYW55IGV4cGVyaWVuY2Ugd2l0aCB0aGlz IHNpdHVhdGlvbiA/IFRoYXQNCgl3aWxsIGJlIGEgYXBwcmVjaWF0ZSA6KQ0KDQpSZWdhcmRzLA0K ZWR3YXJkYw0K To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 8:17: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.netunlimited.net (mail.netunlimited.net [208.128.132.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642F737B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seahawk (seahawk.twinds.com [208.165.2.226]) by mail.netunlimited.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21245 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:18:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:17:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Arley Carter To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: AHC driver fixed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsup'd at ~ 18:00 EDT 9-Oct. and the AHC driver is fixed now. Thanks to whoever fixed it and Sean O'Connell and Steven Farmer for alerting me via email. Cheers: -arc Arley Carter arc@twinds.com Tradewinds Technologies, Inc. www.twinds.com Winston-Salem, NC USA Network Engineering & Security To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 8:49:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from us66.grant.org (us66.grant.org [213.39.2.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6CF37B66C for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from splat.grant.org (splat [213.39.2.179]) by us66.grant.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA13402 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:49:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from mgrant@localhost) by splat.grant.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) id RAA25455; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:49:32 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:49:32 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200010101549.RAA25455@splat.grant.org> From: Michael Grant To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: effective use of serial console Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Warner Losh > You can always hack sio to make the break character call reboot rather > than debugger. Once in the debugger, can't one call reboot manually? How would you do that? But I suppose though if the machine is really wedged, nothing short of a power cycle is going to get it to reboot. -Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 10:28:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.163.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E9C37B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mira1.cisco.com (mira1.cisco.com [171.71.208.193]) by sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA11351; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (sjck-dial-gw5-9.cisco.com [10.19.238.10]) by mira1.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ABP06295; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39E35008.49896754@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:21:12 -0700 From: W Gerald Hicks Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: effective use of serial console References: <14817.64539.984808.362682@yertle.kciLink.com> <14819.9533.141056.968810@onceler.kciLink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Vivek Khera wrote: > > >>>>> "JvR" == Janko van Roosmalen writes: > > JvR> I have read somewhere that the classic trick is to add an user to > JvR> your system with "shutdown" as login shell. > > But if your system is not responding to logins, it won't help you. > That's about the only time you'd use ctrl-alt-del on a physical > console too. For example, your proc table is full or some other DoS > attack is going on. > I recall David Greenman's "old modem" hack, where one uses the hook relay to control the power or reset circuit of the remote system. It's described in detail somewhere in the mail archives Cheers, Jery Hicks gehicks@cisco.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 10:57: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4251F37B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09810; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9AHugw26684; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:56:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:56:42 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Warner Losh Cc: Leonard Chung , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive Message-ID: <20001010105641.A26557@tao.thought.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> <200010100509.XAA18135@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200010100509.XAA18135@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 11:09:07PM -0600 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 11:09:07PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> Leonard Chung writes: > : Almost all modern IDE and SCSI drives use the same drive mechanism between > : them, so their reliability is the same. > > I've had way more problems with IDE drives going south than SCSI. > Most of the IDE drives still are 5400rpm, while most scsi drives run > at 7200 or 10000. The low end of scsi is higher than the low end of > IDE. The low end of IDE redefines junk. > This seems true of most things you can buy. If IBM and Seagate are among the high-end, what brands would you avoid? gary -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 11:28:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from irv1-mail2.intelenet.net (irv1-mail2.intelenet.net [204.182.160.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F3937B502; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nimba.intelenet.net (nimba.intelenet.net [207.38.65.93]) by irv1-mail2.intelenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10240; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nimba.intelenet.net (Postfix, from userid 1294) id C97A283B56; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:28:21 -0700 From: matthew zeier To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: fatal trap 19 ? Message-ID: <20001010112821.B23447@intelenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NMuMz9nt05w80d4+" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got this on my box today: Fatal trap 19: non-maskable interrupt trap while in kernel mode instruction pointer =3D3D 0x8:0xc02158d6 stack pointer =3D3D 0x10:0xcd3cfe6c frame pointer =3D3D 0x10:0xcd3cfe84 code segment =3D3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b =3D3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags =3D3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D3D 0 current process =3D3D 71512 (perl) interrupt mask =3D3D none trap number =3D3D 19 panic: non-maskable interrupt trap syncing disks... 89 89 85 71 23=3D20 done Uptime: 18h7m34s --=20 matthew zeier - "There ain't no rules around here. We're trying to accomplish something." - Thomas Edison --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjnjX8QACgkQ2vhH5UMgI9fC+QCdGuf/Hl3Iahb3qe0AQrUFxAiD hrAAnRKxdDZY8lup2BN/NHJ4RY53XzkJ =Tp+A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 11:36:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.state.me.us (mailhub.state.me.us [141.114.122.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F6537B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from katahdin.bmv.state.me.us by mailhub.state.me.us with ESMTP for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:29:40 -0400 Received: from localhost (darren@localhost) by katahdin.bmv.state.me.us (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id OAA22956 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:35:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Darren Henderson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Correct sequence for keeping a 4.1 system stable. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hmm, I don't know why. Those problems were going from 4.0 -> 4.1.1 and > going from 4.1 -> 4.1.1 on another machine. If it happened on just one > machine i wouldn't rase a question. But his is happening on both, however > of course I'm the one that's done both the machines. But i don't think > i've screwd anything else up. Just a "me too". Going from 4.1 -> 4.1.1. Ended up having to do buildworld install world then building the kernel the old way. Haven't been able to get the kernel to compile using buildkernel since. ________________________________________________________________________ Darren Henderson darren@bmv.state.me.us darren.henderson@state.me.us To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 11:38:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F6C37B66D; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00741; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:38:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200010101838.LAA00741@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: fatal trap 19 ? In-Reply-To: <20001010112821.B23447@intelenet.net> from matthew zeier at "Oct 10, 0 11:28:21 am" To: matthew@intelenet.net (matthew zeier) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:38:52 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, matthew zeier wrote: > > > I got this on my box today: > > Fatal trap 19: non-maskable interrupt trap while in kernel mode > instruction pointer =3D 0x8:0xc02158d6 > stack pointer =3D 0x10:0xcd3cfe6c > frame pointer =3D 0x10:0xcd3cfe84 > code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > =3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags =3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0 > current process =3D 71512 (perl) > interrupt mask =3D none > trap number =3D 19 > panic: non-maskable interrupt trap > > syncing disks... 89 89 85 71 23=20 > done > Uptime: 18h7m34s On most PC hardware, a non-maskable interrupt is generated by the power supply. Some will generate an NMI if they have parity or ECC memory that detects an uncorrectable error. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 11:46:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6851C37B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slave (Studded@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA95068; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:46:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:46:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt051n37.san.rr.com To: Michael Grant Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: effective use of serial console In-Reply-To: <200010101549.RAA25455@splat.grant.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Michael Grant wrote: > > From: Warner Losh > > You can always hack sio to make the break character call reboot rather > > than debugger. > > Once in the debugger, can't one call reboot manually? How would you > do that? call boot(0) It works about half the time I try it (although thankfully I haven't needed it for a while). Doug -- "The dead cannot be seduced." - Kai, "Lexx" Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 12: 1:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5195237B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.11.2.PreAlpha0/8.11.2.PreAlpha0) id e9AJ0nq73201; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:00:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14819.26465.635459.176197@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:00:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Tomasz Paszkowski Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why sendmail is not compiled with TLS In-Reply-To: <20001010015249.A38634@genesis.k.pl> References: <20001010015249.A38634@genesis.k.pl> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.2 (beta36) "Notus" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ns88> It's boring to tune it everytime, when I'am instaling new system :( It is being built that way in the HEAD as of today. If things go well, I'll MFC the change to RELENG_4 (STABLE). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 12:17:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from us66.grant.org (us66.grant.org [213.39.2.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D507337B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from splat.grant.org (splat [213.39.2.179]) by us66.grant.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA13456 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:17:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from mgrant@localhost) by splat.grant.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) id VAA25595; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:17:33 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:17:33 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200010101917.VAA25595@splat.grant.org> From: Michael Grant To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: effective use of serial console Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > From: Warner Losh > > > You can always hack sio to make the break character call reboot rather > > > than debugger. > > > > Once in the debugger, can't one call reboot manually? How would you > > do that? > > call boot(0) > > It works about half the time I try it (although thankfully I haven't > needed it for a while). err, what's it do the other 50%, hang and then you need to power cycle? Is there a better way if you don't have access to the power switch other than installing something like the NPS previously mentioned? -Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 12:37:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2A137B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00116; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:36:12 -0700 Message-ID: <39E36FAC.EF96470F@urx.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:36:12 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Darren Henderson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Correct sequence for keeping a 4.1 system stable. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Darren Henderson wrote: > > > Hmm, I don't know why. Those problems were going from 4.0 -> 4.1.1 and > > going from 4.1 -> 4.1.1 on another machine. If it happened on just one > > machine i wouldn't rase a question. But his is happening on both, however > > of course I'm the one that's done both the machines. But i don't think > > i've screwd anything else up. > > Just a "me too". Going from 4.1 -> 4.1.1. Ended up having to do buildworld > install world then building the kernel the old way. Haven't been able to get > the kernel to compile using buildkernel since. I have absolutely no problem doing this. Because of this thread, I followed a remote cvsup upgrade from 4.0-R to 4.1.1-Stable yesterday. I had all of the makes captured to text files and no errors. We added >& bworld.txt and ">& bkernel.txt to the appropriate builds. For the installs, I replaced the "b" with an "i". You need to capture the output and see what is happening. One thing, you can't do something like a "make buildkernel KERNEL=GENERIC" unless /usr/obj has been populated by a buildworld. If you do a make clean after the installworld, the buildkernel scheme will no longer work. Once you have done an installworld, I don't think there is any advantage in doing a buildkernel. If they change something like the compiler, that may not work because you need to do a cross compile and the buildkernel methodology does that for you. I would rather not spend the time figuring out if I can get away with using the config scheme and do a build[install]kernel after every cvsup of RELENG_4. I also belive in building everything before I start my first install. It works so well for me straight out of /usr/src/UPDATING that I suspect you have mistyped something. The only problem I had was the first night O'Brien updated the /binutils. I was tried to use kernel instead of KERNEL and that didn't work. On the diagnostic side of me, however, I have long held the opinion that one failure means more than 100 successes. Engelschall had an elaborate cookbook for upgrading 3.x to 4-stable that he sent to the -stable list back in August. It is now out of date because a buildkernel KERNEL=RUBY no longer produces a kernel called /RUBY. The RSA ban has passed and the ssh stuff is built in everywhere. Some of the things you have to do to upgrade 3.5 to 4-stable aren't needed when you are at 4.x. You still have to generate the keys if you aren't using ssh. Kent > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Darren Henderson darren@bmv.state.me.us > darren.henderson@state.me.us > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 13:14:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C02337B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-216-7-178-17.sirius.net ([216.7.178.17] helo=workhorse.my.domain) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13j5nt-0001SX-00; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:15:14 -0700 Received: from zeus.berkeley.edu (zeus [10.0.0.3]) by workhorse.my.domain (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9AKWFm09979; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:32:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leonard@ssl.berkeley.edu) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001010124858.026637c0@yikes.com> X-Sender: leonard@yikes.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:17:00 -0700 To: Warner Losh From: Leonard Chung Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive Cc: kline@tao.thought.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200010100509.XAA18135@harmony.village.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, I'm aware of the differing RPMs. SCSI drives actually now are up to 15,000RPM to it shouldn't be long before IDE is up to 10KRPM. The differing RPMs is more of a marketing decision than any inherent limitation in IDE itself. SCSI is a premium product, so it gets the higher RPMs first and sometimes bigger buffers, but again, this is due not to the SCSI bus having higher performance. Where the focus is on spindle speed for SCSI, the focus for IDE is on areal density. IDE drives actually give better performance for the dollar in MAPS (megabyte accesses per second), KAPS (kilobyte accesses/s), and much better performance in sequential performance (i.e. all round) and for that price, you get the benefit of redundancy. So with IDE you get better performance and less cost. However, for the 5400 and 7200RPM drives, for almost all manufacturers, irregardless of the interface, the actual drive mechanism is the same. Drive manufacturers are all losing big $$$. Using common components across all of their product lines saves money. Since the moving parts are the most common reason for failure rather than the solid state interface, the reliability on modern IDE and SCSI hard drives is generally the same. For SCSI hard drives that run at higher RPM (hotter and generally considered to be more "fragile" and sensitive to environment), I'd be very surprised to hear that a new 5400RPM drive, whether SCSI or IDE, is much less reliable than a new 10,000RPM drive. One other consideration to remember is that of the environment in which a drive is functioning -- most SCSI drives are owned by people or organizations with sufficient technical expertise (not to mention money) to know proper care and feeding of HDs and computers, while IDE drives' (especially low end ones) owners have a much higher "bozo" factor. Leonard At 10:09 PM 10/9/2000, Warner Losh wrote: >In message <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> Leonard Chung writes: >: Almost all modern IDE and SCSI drives use the same drive mechanism between >: them, so their reliability is the same. > >I've had way more problems with IDE drives going south than SCSI. >Most of the IDE drives still are 5400rpm, while most scsi drives run >at 7200 or 10000. The low end of scsi is higher than the low end of >IDE. The low end of IDE redefines junk. > >Warner -- Leonard Chung - SETI@home - The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence @ home http://www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 13:14:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDBB37B66C for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-216-7-178-17.sirius.net ([216.7.178.17] helo=workhorse.my.domain) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13j5nv-0001Su-00; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:15:15 -0700 Received: from zeus.berkeley.edu (zeus [10.0.0.3]) by workhorse.my.domain (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9AKWIm09982; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leonard@ssl.berkeley.edu) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001010130349.04144c30@yikes.com> X-Sender: leonard@yikes.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:17:01 -0700 To: Gary Kline , Warner Losh From: Leonard Chung Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20001010105641.A26557@tao.thought.org> References: <200010100509.XAA18135@harmony.village.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> <200010100509.XAA18135@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've had good luck with Quantum and IBM IDE drives. I've had mixed results with Maxtor HDs (not in terms of reliability but with extremely high latency on their controller), along with WD hard drives. Some WD hard drives are actually relabeled IBM IDE HDs, so YMMV. The easy way to tell the difference is if you look at the PCB and find that one of the chips is covered by a yellow plastic cover, then it's likely an IBM HD. Leonard At 10:56 AM 10/10/2000, Gary Kline wrote: >On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 11:09:07PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> Leonard Chung > writes: > > : Almost all modern IDE and SCSI drives use the same drive mechanism > between > > : them, so their reliability is the same. > > > > I've had way more problems with IDE drives going south than SCSI. > > Most of the IDE drives still are 5400rpm, while most scsi drives run > > at 7200 or 10000. The low end of scsi is higher than the low end of > > IDE. The low end of IDE redefines junk. > > > > This seems true of most things you can buy. If IBM and Seagate > are among the high-end, what brands would you avoid? > > gary > > >-- > Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix -- Leonard Chung - SETI@home - The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence @ home http://www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 13:22:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DE037B66E for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9AKMri15116; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:22:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA29381; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:22:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010102022.OAA29381@harmony.village.org> To: Leonard Chung Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive Cc: kline@tao.thought.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:17:00 PDT." <4.3.2.7.2.20001010124858.026637c0@yikes.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20001010124858.026637c0@yikes.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:22:53 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We've had horrible luck with IDE drives at Timing Solutions. We're redoing all of our embedded systems to use CF parts. They wear out much more slowly than IDE drives and tolerate some of the more "demanding" environments that we deploy in. Besides, it is a huge waste to deploy a 5G drive when you are using only 32M of it :-) I personally have found that IDE drives tend to fail more often than the SCSI drives I ahve. However, part of that is that I spend $$$ for SCSI, and I am loathe to give up and $$$ for IDE drives. So it is a self selecting quality issue here. :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 14: 0:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE5437B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22938; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:00:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:00:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Warner Losh Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Anyone using adaptec 29160 In-Reply-To: <200010100512.XAA18181@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Warner Losh wrote: >What kind of drives were connected to them? I have u2w drives and >have been using this since early 4.0-stable. My latest kernel is from >August 15th. An IBM U2W LVD drive. It's not U160. Well, August 15th is from a point before a plethora of commits to ahc. I would recommend you, if nothing else, compile a kernel from recent RELENG_4 sources and see if it boots. I wouldn't go upgrading your world or anything until you're sure the new kernel will boot. I'm finally going back to work this Thursday, my last theatre performance being this evening(gotta take at least a day off to relax =), and when I do I plan to get a null modem cable hooked up to that machine and start logging the panic output and see if I can't get into the kernel debugger, and even if I cannot dump to disk without a working SCSI driver, I can log the output of the debugger on another machine. I know Justin is likely sicking of hearing sporadic reports from me when I get a moment to test more code. I'm sure he'll appreciate it if I write up all of these logs into a nice, formal PR and give him something to work with. =) Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 17: 8:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.kingsquarry.net (166-82-22-229.CHRLNC.vnet.net [166.82.22.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7F937B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saturn (saturn.kingsquarry.net [10.10.10.50]) by neptune.kingsquarry.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA63059; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:06:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jdoolittle@kingsquarry.net) Message-Id: <200010110006.UAA63059@neptune.kingsquarry.net> From: "Jeffrey Doolittle" To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:06:53 -0400 Reply-To: "Jeffrey Doolittle" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;1) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anyone using adaptec 29160 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've had an Adaptec 29160 for probably close to three weeks now without any problem using 4.1-RELEASE. The following is my dmesg: .... ahc0: port 0x6300-0x63ff mem 0xe511000-00 ahc0: aix7892 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs .... da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enable da0: 17501MB (35843670 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2231C) .... Now the motherboard is a Soyo micro (2 ISA/2PCI slots) with an AMD K6-2 333Mhz processor and 64mb of RAM. The card is installed in the first 32-bit PCI slot, not a 64-bit slot, so it's only running at half speed (at least that's my observation). Although I have CVSup'd the sources and done what I beleive to be three successful build worlds I have not had time to perform the installation as I need to make backups first. The only problem I received was a signal 11s with 'cc' during the intial build world but that was because my 50-pin SCSI channel was not properly terminated. The 50-pin channel is of course being my good old tape drive so I'm searching for some terminators (can't use my old 2940 as I'm out of PCI slots, the other slot contains a network card). I don't know if any of this helps, but I haven't had any problems other than the mentioned signal 11 because of lack of termination. Jeff On Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:53:41 -0400 (EDT), Brandon D. Valentine wrote: >On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > >>In message <39E25DC9.42D0684C@columbus.rr.com> Bill Moran writes: >>: Anyone using an Adaptec 29160 SCSI controller? ( It's pretty new and I >>: know it's not technically supported, but I was wondering if anyone had >>: tried it and got it working? For example, does it emulate another >>: Adaptec adapter? Will another adaptec driver work with it? Timeline >>: forces me to be sure before I purchase. >>: Any feedback is greatly appreciated (works, doesn't work, etc) >> >>I'm using the 19160, the younger brother of the 29160. It works >>great! > >I'm glad Warner is having better luck. I don't know which variant of >the 29160 you are looking at Bill, but I still don't have my two >controllers working. I have a motherboard (Supermicro 370DL3) with an >onboard 29160 (Adaptec AIC7892) plus an additional 64-bit PCI 29160 >sitting in it. When installating 4.1-RELEASE these controllers will >hang at random points during installation. When installing >4.1.1-RELEASE they panic on boot during the probe. When installing >recent -current snaps on the machine the same thing also happens. The >only revision of the driver that seems to install and boot fine on this >combination is src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.c,v1.47. I have not had time >to collect additional information on the panic's as I'm just finishing >up a theatre production which has taken much of my time. Hopefully at >some point I can sit down with a serial console and a debug kernel and >get Justin the specifics he needs to fix it. Be forewarned. I hate to >tell you this, and hope if you do buy one you'll have better luck. I >don't know what else to tell you to buy, since these are in my opinion >the best SCSI controllers on the market right now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 17:45:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2936537B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA13204; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:45:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-65.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.65) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma013202; Tue Oct 10 19:45:19 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20001010190749.00c5cf00@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:45:03 -0500 To: Leonard Chung , Warner Losh From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive Cc: kline@tao.thought.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20001010124858.026637c0@yikes.com> References: <200010100509.XAA18135@harmony.village.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:17 PM 10/10/00 -0700, Leonard Chung wrote: >Yes, I'm aware of the differing RPMs. SCSI drives actually now are up to >15,000RPM to it shouldn't be long before IDE is up to 10KRPM. > >The differing RPMs is more of a marketing decision than any inherent >limitation in IDE itself. SCSI is a premium product, so it gets the higher >RPMs first and sometimes bigger buffers, but again, this is due not to the >SCSI bus having higher performance. Where the focus is on spindle speed >for SCSI, the focus for IDE is on areal density. IDE drives actually give >better performance for the dollar in MAPS (megabyte accesses per second), >KAPS (kilobyte accesses/s), and much better performance in sequential >performance (i.e. all round) and for that price, you get the benefit of >redundancy. So with IDE you get better performance and less cost. This smells like a techie sales pitch. Little meaningful info regardless of terms and large words. Did I mention I'm a hard sell? You would need follow up with figures that involve more than one transaction. Many more. The hardware may be similar, but the interface is where the "real world" difference will be evident in a busy production environment. The vagaries referring to price I must presume are talking about RAID arrays (otherwise it's non-scenical). Seeing a comparison between the same array with IDE vs SCSI would be interesting. Drives should have very similar numbers using your comparison. With IDE I think most would agree that initial cost will be lower. However, longevity counts, so total cost for the lifecycle should be considered. The longer the period, the more likely that IDE will end up costing more. Going strictly by drive specs and current street cost isn't near enough to sell me, and surely others, on your ideas. Don't take offense either, there just seem to be a few holes that need to be fixed. Even if you are referring to a workstation or single user application where I have opted for older "slower" SCSI drives than years newer IDE drives for performance reasons. Anxiously awaiting the test results... 8-) Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 18:22:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C928B37B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slave (Studded@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA98857; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:22:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:22:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt051n37.san.rr.com To: Michael Grant Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: effective use of serial console In-Reply-To: <200010101917.VAA25595@splat.grant.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Michael Grant wrote: > > > > From: Warner Losh > > > > You can always hack sio to make the break character call reboot rather > > > > than debugger. > > > > > > Once in the debugger, can't one call reboot manually? How would you > > > do that? > > > > call boot(0) > > > > It works about half the time I try it (although thankfully I haven't > > needed it for a while). > > err, what's it do the other 50%, hang and then you need to power > cycle? Correct-o. > Is there a better way if you don't have access to the power > switch other than installing something like the NPS previously > mentioned? There are times when physical access to the machine is a requirement. In other words, yes, you can wedge a freebsd box to the point where a power cycle is the only solution. Doug -- "The dead cannot be seduced." - Kai, "Lexx" Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 18:28:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD5C37B66E for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-216-7-178-17.sirius.net ([216.7.178.17] helo=workhorse.my.domain) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13jAhU-0002yp-00; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:28:57 -0700 Received: from zeus.berkeley.edu (zeus [10.0.0.3]) by workhorse.my.domain (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9B1kdm10264; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:46:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leonard@ssl.berkeley.edu) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001010175336.02671740@yikes.com> X-Sender: leonard@yikes.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:31:21 -0700 To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" , Warner Losh From: Leonard Chung Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive Cc: kline@tao.thought.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20001010190749.00c5cf00@207.227.119.2> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20001010124858.026637c0@yikes.com> <200010100509.XAA18135@harmony.village.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Jeff, Drive specs and current street cost aren't my primary sources. :-) Let me throw in a quick plug for a paper I wrote earlier this year which covered the whole issue of IDE vs. SCSI: http://www.research.microsoft.com/BARC/sequential_io It addresses most of the issues you raise here: RAID comparisons and actual empirical numbers. Of course, any measurements can only give an approximation of "real world" performance in a production environment, but the numbers are pretty compelling none-the-less. Also, as I've mentioned before, the mechanisms between two drives with similar RPM and capacity but different interfaces is almost always the same, so I'd be very surprised if longevity is an issue since they both have the same moving parts. Consider also that SCSI drives cost generally about significantly more expensive than a comparable IDE drive, so the difference in price/performance is huge. I started out being a bit of a SCSI guy, but I've become convinced of the soundness of the case for IDE. Many of the issues brought up on this list are similar concerns had myself when I first started looking into this whole idea of cheap storage (a <=$10K/terabyte). IDE has come a long way from the old PIO days where IDE and SCSI drives were made from different mechanisms and IDE meant cheap and unreliable. Things have changed these past few years with the advent of DMA and the sharing of drive mechanisms across SCSI and IDE product lines. Hopefully after reading the paper, it will hopefully make you reason to not chose those years older SCSI drives over today's new IDE drives. A quick disclaimer: This was a study done for Microsoft Research on Windows 2000, not FreeBSD, but it is reflective of the performance you can get out of the drives themselves. The unbuffered IO (i.e. straight to disk) numbers are probably the ones you care most about. Leonard At 05:45 PM 10/10/2000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: >This smells like a techie sales pitch. Little meaningful info regardless >of terms and large words. Did I mention I'm a hard sell? > >You would need follow up with figures that involve more than one >transaction. Many more. The hardware may be similar, but the interface >is where the "real world" difference will be evident in a busy production >environment. > >The vagaries referring to price I must presume are talking about RAID >arrays (otherwise it's non-scenical). Seeing a comparison between the >same array with IDE vs SCSI would be interesting. Drives should have very >similar numbers using your comparison. > >With IDE I think most would agree that initial cost will be >lower. However, longevity counts, so total cost for the lifecycle should >be considered. The longer the period, the more likely that IDE will end >up costing more. > >Going strictly by drive specs and current street cost isn't near enough to >sell me, and surely others, on your ideas. Don't take offense either, >there just seem to be a few holes that need to be fixed. Even if you are >referring to a workstation or single user application where I have opted >for older "slower" SCSI drives than years newer IDE drives for performance >reasons. > >Anxiously awaiting the test results... 8-) > > >Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net >Systems/Network Administrator >FreeBSD - the power to serve -- Leonard Chung - SETI@home - The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence @ home http://www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 18:30:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from supai.oit.umass.edu (mailhub.oit.umass.edu [128.119.175.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74EA37B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by supai.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #38130) id <0G2800J01S5LUB@supai.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wilde.oit.umass.edu (wilde.oit.umass.edu [128.119.166.168]) by supai.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #38130) with ESMTP id <0G2800HK2S5L15@supai.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gp@localhost) by wilde.oit.umass.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21474 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:30:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregory Pavelcak Subject: Laptop <-> Desktop by ethernet. Thanks To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <200010110130.VAA21474@wilde.oit.umass.edu> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks very much to everyone who responded. I now have the connection working, and to be honest, I don't quite know how that happened. But I do appreciate the input. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 18:36: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay2.adelphia.net (smtprelay2.adelphia.net [64.8.25.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C3237B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adelphia.net ([24.50.186.158]) by smtprelay2.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G28SE900.6V0 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:34:57 -0400 Message-ID: <39E3C48E.903D8489@adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:38:22 -0400 From: Nader Turki X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make world Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi guys, i was doing make world and got disconnected. i did make world again? is that fine? or gonna cause a problem? thanks, - nader To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 18:58:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from weck.brokersys.com (weck.brokersys.com [206.180.156.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC4C37B66C for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grover-17.brokersys.com (feline@grover-17.brokersys.com [206.180.152.81]) by weck.brokersys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23698; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:58:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:58:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Wade X-Sender: feline@localhost.mydomain To: Nader Turki Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world In-Reply-To: <39E3C48E.903D8489@adelphia.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm sorry, disconnected from what? Afaik, unless you're making world through a network connection - with telnet, ssh, etc. -, being disconnected from your net has nothing to do with make world. Robert Wade On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Nader Turki wrote: > hi guys, > i was doing make world and got disconnected. > i did make world again? is that fine? or gonna cause a problem? > thanks, > > - nader > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 19:11:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay1.adelphia.net (smtprelay1.adelphia.net [64.8.25.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF79137B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adelphia.net ([24.50.186.158]) by smtprelay1.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G28TZV00.PQL; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:09:31 -0400 Message-ID: <39E3CCF6.6930F864@adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:14:14 -0400 From: Nader Turki X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Wade Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry I didn't explain the problem. I'm doing make world remotely using telnet. I got disconnected from the Network, had to wait for a while till my cable modem work and i telnet again to my server and did make world again 'cause it was stoped. Is that going to be a problem? I mean should I do somethin' else them make world? 'cause the first time it was done almost half way. Thanks, - Nader Robert Wade wrote: > I'm sorry, disconnected from what? > > Afaik, unless you're making world through a network connection - with > telnet, ssh, etc. -, being disconnected from your net has nothing to do > with make world. > > Robert Wade > > On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Nader Turki wrote: > > > hi guys, > > i was doing make world and got disconnected. > > i did make world again? is that fine? or gonna cause a problem? > > thanks, > > > > - nader > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 19:15:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7827437B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21261 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2000 02:15:33 -0000 Received: from p3ee2160b.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.226.22.11) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 11 Oct 2000 02:15:33 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20953 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 02:05:59 +0200 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 02:05:59 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipf vs. ipfw ? Message-ID: <20001011020559.Y31338@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001008224359.R31338@speedy.gsinet> <20001009193445.T31338@speedy.gsinet> <14819.8982.61823.868907@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <14819.8982.61823.868907@onceler.kciLink.com>; from khera@kciLink.com on Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 10:09:26AM -0400 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 10:09 -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "GS" == Gerhard Sittig writes: > > GS> same mechanism -- just with ipfw behind the pipe! And these > GS> substitutions maybe could get nested if needed like this: > > GS> REPEAT S1 $SRC : REPEAT S2 $DEST : pass ... from S1 to S2 ... > > GS> if implemented in some intelligent way. Has someone gotten > GS> behind the stage of thinking about this and actually started > GS> planning or implementing it? I would be interested in different > GS> thoughts. > > ipfw lets you pre-process a file using any arbitrary pre-processor. > It recommends cpp or m4, but who's to stop you from using perl? Just > make your FW rule file be a perl program and run it thusly: > > ipfw -p /usr/bin/perl firewall.perl > > and you're set. That's exactly what I have now (150 lines of Perl code doing loops and grouping and substitutions, etc). But I have to admin that I don't use ipfw -- I don't want to learn another syntax, and I don't miss the dummy bandwidth limiter. That's why I stick with ipf (plus because I have machines around not running FreeBSD). > Just make sure that the output of your firewall.perl program is > a valid set of firewall rules. I guess the only trick would be > figuring out how to pass flags to your program. Not at all with the hooks I applied to /etc/rc.network. :) And one could even drive it to insanity with stacking shell code (here document) and cpp and perl and whatever upon each other. :> In case there's popular demand, I could post the 4KB script. It's not tied to any filter language and not even to substituting filter rules. Although it's just a hack. Anyone could do better on their own, I guess. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 19:21:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE98537B66C for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA31154; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:21:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <022b01c03329$f3447700$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Nader Turki" Cc: References: <39E3CCF6.6930F864@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: make world Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:19:51 -0500 Organization: West Bend Internet X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Nader Turki" > Sorry I didn't explain the problem. > I'm doing make world remotely using telnet. > I got disconnected from the Network, had to wait for a while till my cable > modem work and i telnet again to my server and did make world again 'cause > it was stoped. > Is that going to be a problem? I mean should I do somethin' else them make > world? 'cause the first time it was done almost half way. > In stead of doing a "make world", you should do a "make buildworld &". This will start building your sources in the background, then if you get disconnected the "make buildworld" will continue in the background. Then all you need to do is "make build|installkernel" and "make installworld" after you reconnected and verified that the build process has completed. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 19:24:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay3.adelphia.net (smtprelay3.adelphia.net [64.8.25.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2494537B66C for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adelphia.net ([24.50.186.158]) by smtprelay3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G28UKE00.HEL; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:21:50 -0400 Message-ID: <39E3CFDA.E4F91F64@adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:26:34 -0400 From: Nader Turki X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Scot W. Hetzel" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world References: <39E3CCF6.6930F864@adelphia.net> <022b01c03329$f3447700$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for your advise :) but I need to know about what I did. Is it ok that I did make world again? Thanks, - Nader "Scot W. Hetzel" wrote: > From: "Nader Turki" > > Sorry I didn't explain the problem. > > I'm doing make world remotely using telnet. > > I got disconnected from the Network, had to wait for a while till my cable > > modem work and i telnet again to my server and did make world again 'cause > > it was stoped. > > Is that going to be a problem? I mean should I do somethin' else them make > > world? 'cause the first time it was done almost half way. > > > In stead of doing a "make world", you should do a "make buildworld &". This will start building your sources in the background, > then if you get disconnected the "make buildworld" will continue in the background. Then all you need to do is "make > build|installkernel" and "make installworld" after you reconnected and verified that the build process has completed. > > Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 19:31:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from terminus.rootprompt.net (mail.rootprompt.net [208.53.161.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F6B37B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jove (recon.rootprompt.net [192.168.1.2]) by terminus.rootprompt.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0447845C02; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:31:10 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "Robert Banniza" To: "Scot W. Hetzel" , "Nader Turki" Cc: Subject: RE: make world Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:32:39 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <022b01c03329$f3447700$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rather than doing a 'make buildworld &', wouldn't you want to do a 'nohup make buildworld' to keep the process running even after getting disconnected? I thought the & only put the process in the background and that the bg process would stop after being disconnected. Maybe I'm misled here. Robert -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Scot W. Hetzel Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:20 PM To: Nader Turki Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world From: "Nader Turki" > Sorry I didn't explain the problem. > I'm doing make world remotely using telnet. > I got disconnected from the Network, had to wait for a while till my cable > modem work and i telnet again to my server and did make world again 'cause > it was stoped. > Is that going to be a problem? I mean should I do somethin' else them make > world? 'cause the first time it was done almost half way. > In stead of doing a "make world", you should do a "make buildworld &". This will start building your sources in the background, then if you get disconnected the "make buildworld" will continue in the background. Then all you need to do is "make build|installkernel" and "make installworld" after you reconnected and verified that the build process has completed. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 19:31:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (drugs.dv.isc.org [130.155.191.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F2537B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nominum.com (localhost.dv.isc.org [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9B2WUu44462; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:32:38 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from marka@nominum.com) Message-Id: <200010110232.e9B2WUu44462@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: "Scot W. Hetzel" Cc: "Nader Turki" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com Subject: Re: make world In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:19:51 CDT." <022b01c03329$f3447700$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:32:30 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: "Nader Turki" > > Sorry I didn't explain the problem. > > I'm doing make world remotely using telnet. > > I got disconnected from the Network, had to wait for a while till my cable > > modem work and i telnet again to my server and did make world again 'cause > > it was stoped. > > Is that going to be a problem? I mean should I do somethin' else them make > > world? 'cause the first time it was done almost half way. > > > In stead of doing a "make world", you should do a "make buildworld &". This > will start building your sources in the background, > then if you get disconnected the "make buildworld" will continue in the backg > round. Then all you need to do is "make > build|installkernel" and "make installworld" after you reconnected and verifi > ed that the build process has completed. > > Scot > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Not forget to capture and examine the output from make. e.g. make buildworld >& world.out & Mark -- Mark Andrews, Nominum Inc. 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 19:34: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay1.adelphia.net (smtprelay1.adelphia.net [64.8.25.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B78737B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adelphia.net ([24.50.186.158]) by smtprelay1.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G28V0Q00.G02; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:31:38 -0400 Message-ID: <39E3D229.A63315D1@adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:36:25 -0400 From: Nader Turki X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: robert@rootprompt.net Cc: "Scot W. Hetzel" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK guys, I understand all that, but the thing is. I already did "make world" and got disconnected and i did telnet to the box again and did "make world" again! So, Is that going to be a problem? Thanks, - Nader Robert Banniza wrote: > Rather than doing a 'make buildworld &', wouldn't you want to do a 'nohup > make buildworld' to keep the process running even after getting > disconnected? I thought the & only put the process in the background and > that the bg process would stop after being disconnected. Maybe I'm misled > here. > > Robert > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Scot W. Hetzel > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:20 PM > To: Nader Turki > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: make world > > From: "Nader Turki" > > Sorry I didn't explain the problem. > > I'm doing make world remotely using telnet. > > I got disconnected from the Network, had to wait for a while till my cable > > modem work and i telnet again to my server and did make world again 'cause > > it was stoped. > > Is that going to be a problem? I mean should I do somethin' else them make > > world? 'cause the first time it was done almost half way. > > > In stead of doing a "make world", you should do a "make buildworld &". This > will start building your sources in the background, > then if you get disconnected the "make buildworld" will continue in the > background. Then all you need to do is "make > build|installkernel" and "make installworld" after you reconnected and > verified that the build process has completed. > > Scot > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 19:36:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (yip.org [199.45.111.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAC937B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA90634; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:36:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:36:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob K X-Sender: melange@localhost To: Nader Turki Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world In-Reply-To: <39E3CFDA.E4F91F64@adelphia.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It should be fine. On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Nader Turki wrote: > Thanks for your advise :) > but I need to know about what I did. > Is it ok that I did make world again? > > Thanks, > > - Nader > > "Scot W. Hetzel" wrote: > > > From: "Nader Turki" > > > Sorry I didn't explain the problem. > > > I'm doing make world remotely using telnet. > > > I got disconnected from the Network, had to wait for a while till my cable > > > modem work and i telnet again to my server and did make world again 'cause > > > it was stoped. > > > Is that going to be a problem? I mean should I do somethin' else them make > > > world? 'cause the first time it was done almost half way. > > > > > In stead of doing a "make world", you should do a "make buildworld &". This will start building your sources in the background, > > then if you get disconnected the "make buildworld" will continue in the background. Then all you need to do is "make > > build|installkernel" and "make installworld" after you reconnected and verified that the build process has completed. > > > > Scot > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Bob | iNFp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 19:39: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.jonelrienton.org (dsl-64-34-25-237.telocity.com [64.34.25.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E5F937B66E for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1932 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2000 02:53:54 -0000 Received: from debian (10.29.22.23) by zeus with SMTP; 11 Oct 2000 02:53:54 -0000 Message-ID: <022e01c0332e$2750e8e0$17161d0a@jonelrienton.org> From: "Jonel Rienton" To: "Nader Turki" , Cc: "Scot W. Hetzel" , References: <39E3D229.A63315D1@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: make world Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:51:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 heh, to answer your question, i would suggest just removing whatever is in your /usr/obj/* and start from the beginning. and my 2 cents, use screen if that helps :) Jonel Rienton http://qmail.freebsduser.org sent by qmail-1.03 on a FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nader Turki" To: Cc: "Scot W. Hetzel" ; Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:36 PM Subject: Re: make world | OK guys, I understand all that, but the thing is. I already did | "make world" and got disconnected and i did telnet to the box again | and did "make world" again! So, Is that going to be a problem? | | Thanks, | | - Nader | | Robert Banniza wrote: | | > Rather than doing a 'make buildworld &', wouldn't you want to do | > a 'nohup make buildworld' to keep the process running even after | > getting disconnected? I thought the & only put the process in the | > background and that the bg process would stop after being | > disconnected. Maybe I'm misled here. | > | > Robert | > | > -----Original Message----- | > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG | > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Scot W. | > Hetzel Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:20 PM | > To: Nader Turki | > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG | > Subject: Re: make world | > | > From: "Nader Turki" | > > Sorry I didn't explain the problem. | > > I'm doing make world remotely using telnet. | > > I got disconnected from the Network, had to wait for a while | > > till my cable modem work and i telnet again to my server and | > > did make world again 'cause it was stoped. | > > Is that going to be a problem? I mean should I do somethin' | > > else them make world? 'cause the first time it was done almost | > > half way. | > > | > In stead of doing a "make world", you should do a "make | > buildworld &". This will start building your sources in the | > background, | > then if you get disconnected the "make buildworld" will continue | > in the background. Then all you need to do is "make | > build|installkernel" and "make installworld" after you | > reconnected and verified that the build process has completed. | > | > Scot | > | > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message | | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOePVrqQ0pAI9Fl/WEQI8bACfb59b3buUUY6OnmAk6fFGzO1cVS0AoPWD A9ba0Ddzr20oHeUs6pTFjgtN =g/HJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 19:43:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9D137B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA31460; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:43:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <028401c0332d$00c18000$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: Cc: References: Subject: Re: make world Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:43:13 -0500 Organization: West Bend Internet X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Robert Banniza" > Rather than doing a 'make buildworld &', wouldn't you want to do a 'nohup > make buildworld' to keep the process running even after getting > disconnected? I thought the & only put the process in the background and > that the bg process would stop after being disconnected. Maybe I'm misled > here. > The process will continue running until it has completed. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 19:49:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AE137B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01890; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:49:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200010110249.TAA01890@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: make world In-Reply-To: from Robert Banniza at "Oct 10, 0 09:32:39 pm" To: robert@rootprompt.net Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:49:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: hetzels@westbend.net, nturki@adelphia.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Robert Banniza wrote: > Rather than doing a 'make buildworld &', wouldn't you want to do a > 'nohup make buildworld' to keep the process running even after getting > disconnected? I thought the & only put the process in the background > and that the bg process would stop after being disconnected. Maybe > I'm misled here. Depends on your shell. The original Bourne shell needs the "nohup". The C-shell inherently nohups background jobs. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 20:30:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-99.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE7737B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9B3VVQ27694 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:31:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:31:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: make world In-Reply-To: <200010110232.e9B2WUu44462@drugs.dv.isc.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 Mark.Andrews@nominum.com wrote: > > "Nader Turki" wrote: > > > Sorry I didn't explain the problem. I'm doing make world > > > remotely using telnet. I got disconnected from the Network, had > > > to wait for a while till my cable modem work and i telnet again > > > to my server and did make world again 'cause it was stoped. Is > > > that going to be a problem? I mean should I do somethin' else > > > them make world? 'cause the first time it was done almost half > > > way. IIRC, "make world" first cleans /usr/obj unless -DNOCLEAN is set, right? In that case, you should be alright. > Not forget to capture and examine the output from make. e.g. > make buildworld >& world.out & For sh, bash, and ksh users: nohup make buildworld > buildworld.out 2>&1 & -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 22: 8:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101AC37B502 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA14186; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 00:08:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-107.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.107) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma014181; Wed Oct 11 00:08:11 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20001010234650.00b98df0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 00:08:13 -0500 To: Nader Turki From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: make world Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <39E3D229.A63315D1@adelphia.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:36 PM 10/10/00 -0400, Nader Turki wrote: >OK guys, I understand all that, but the thing is. I already did "make >world" and >got disconnected and i did telnet to the box again and did "make world" again! >So, Is that going to be a problem? Possibly. Strongly suggest you start over and don't use 'make world' again. It is not guaranteed to work properly and should you encounter any problems will be most likely be told to start over doing things the supported way. Looking at various files in the source tree I see way too much mention of 'make world' and there is one little mention in UPDATING: To rebuild everything --------------------- make world Except when it doesn't work :-) Not much of an implied warning. That starts at line 139. Around line 192 is what you want to follow. Not sure why the order is such, but think imp only listens to diffs. Think I'll look over things a bit and get back to that. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 22:14:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hal9000.bsdonline.org (ffaxvawx3-4-047.cox.rr.com [24.168.203.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A6A37B66C; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hal9000.bsdonline.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 688A41F89; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 01:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 01:14:23 -0400 From: Andrew J Caines To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Syntax error in ports .mk files? (galeon pkg reg) Message-ID: <20001011011423.A26301@hal9000.bsdonline.org> Reply-To: Andrew J Caines Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: H.A.L. Plant X-Powered-by: FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, Ports cvsup'ed less than an hour ago. After several clean builds and installs with package registration, I build Galeon (/usr/ports/www/galeon) and on "make install" got the following errors during package registration: # make install [snip] ===> Registering installation for galeon-0.7.6 "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.gnome.mk", line 265: Malformed conditional (!defined(HAVE_GNOME) || ${CONFIGURE_ARGS:S/--localstatedir=//} == ${CONFIGURE_ARGS}) "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 3008: if-less endif "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 3008: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.gnome.mk", line 265: Malformed conditional (!defined(HAVE_GNOME) || ${CONFIGURE_ARGS:S/--localstatedir=//} == ${CONFIGURE_ARGS}) "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 3008: if-less endif "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 3008: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue # make clean [snip] "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.gnome.mk", line 265: Malformed conditional (!defined(HAVE_GNOME) || ${CONFIGURE_ARGS:S/--localstatedir=//} == ${CONFIGURE_ARGS}) "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 3008: if-less endif "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 3008: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue Let me know if I can help debug or fix this. If this is user error, please let me know what I missed. -Andrew- -- _______________________________________________________________________ | -Andrew J. Caines- Unix Systems Engineer A.J.Caines@altavista.net | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 22:42:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AC537B66C for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13jEeU-000Gav-00; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:42:06 -0700 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Arley Carter Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: AHC driver fixed Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:42:06 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I cvsup'd at ~ 18:00 EDT 9-Oct. and the AHC driver is fixed now. cvsupped just now and cvsup7 did not have it. then again, i have not had a crash, knock on wood. randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 22:53:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shalimar.net.au (shalimar.net.au [198.142.161.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AB137B503 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by shalimar.net.au (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e9AB5sa24491 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:05:54 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from count) From: "Geoffrey C. Marshall" Organization: Tobacco Chewers and Body Painters Association To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SCSI Speed Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:55:12 +1100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00101022055402.24236@shalimar.net.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently upgraded from 3.4 STABLE to 4.1.1. Not without a number of unsolved (yet) problems. One I think I need some help with is this.... SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 5.000MB/s transfers (5.000MHz, offset 15) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da1s1a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 3.300MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present da3 at ahc1 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da3: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da3: 8748MB (17916240 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 8748C) da1 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4357C) da2 at ahc1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4357C) cd1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 cd1: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd1: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15) cd1: cd present [323214 x 2048 byte records] cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 8.333MB/s transfers (8.333MHz, offset 15) cd0: cd present [1331440 x 512 byte records] The SCSI disks are on Channel B of an Adaptec 2940UW (on board). The other devices (incliding zipdisk) are on Channel A. The disks used to show: da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled Why has the bus speed dropped in the upgrade? What did I miss about changes for Adaptec Controllers? What information do I need to procure to diagnose this problem? Secondly, If the ARCHIVE Python is a SCSI-2 device, why is it operating at SCSI speeds? Geoff -- count@shalimar.net.au Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 10 23:27:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shale.csir.co.za (shale.csir.co.za [146.64.46.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0554F37B66D; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from C992631-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com (C992631-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com [24.12.58.155]) by shale.csir.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA74848; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:26:51 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from reg@shale.csir.co.za) Received: (from reg@localhost) by C992631-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9B6QMx77868; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:26:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reg) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:26:22 -0700 From: Jeremy Lea To: Andrew J Caines Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Syntax error in ports .mk files? (galeon pkg reg) Message-ID: <20001010232622.S30468@shale.csir.co.za> Mail-Followup-To: Jeremy Lea , Andrew J Caines , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD Stable References: <20001011011423.A26301@hal9000.bsdonline.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001011011423.A26301@hal9000.bsdonline.org>; from A.J.Caines@altavista.net on Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 01:14:23AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 01:14:23AM -0400, Andrew J Caines wrote: > Let me know if I can help debug or fix this. If this is user error, please > let me know what I missed. Fixed. It was my error, since I rushed a commit for sobomax. Make sure you have bsd.gnome.mk 1.5. -Jeremy -- FreeBSD - Because the best things in life are free... http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 4:13: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from saturno.ige.unicamp.br (saturno.ige.unicamp.br [143.106.76.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240D037B502 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 04:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by saturno.ige.unicamp.br (Postfix, from userid 106) id 575481E498; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:52:11 -0200 (BRST) Received: from netuno.ige.unicamp.br (netuno.ige.unicamp.br [143.106.76.2]) by saturno.ige.unicamp.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6295527C22 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:52:10 -0200 (BRST) Received: by netuno.ige.unicamp.br (Postfix, from userid 16073) id 31CCD5C93; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:49:40 -0200 (BRST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netuno.ige.unicamp.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2876AD6E0 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:49:40 -0200 (BRST) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:49:40 -0200 (BRST) From: Ricardo Campos Passanezi To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems after compiling & installing a new Kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG People, I've tried to install a new kernel here, which, in fact, I could. But when I reboot the machine, here's what I get: panic: pmap_bootsrap: no local apic! mp_lock = 00000006; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 I've installed FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE yesterday. With the kernel.GENERIC, it boots nice. (i'm using it :-)) I've "csuped" the source after installing. Also yesterday. Any ideas of what have happened here? TIA Ricardo. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 5: 4: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from saturno.ige.unicamp.br (saturno.ige.unicamp.br [143.106.76.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE54B37B503 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 05:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by saturno.ige.unicamp.br (Postfix, from userid 106) id D658F1E485; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:03:52 -0200 (BRST) Received: from netuno.ige.unicamp.br (netuno.ige.unicamp.br [143.106.76.2]) by saturno.ige.unicamp.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7361027C23; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:03:51 -0200 (BRST) Received: by netuno.ige.unicamp.br (Postfix, from userid 16073) id B2E955CCB; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:03:49 -0200 (BRST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netuno.ige.unicamp.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF23BD6E0; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:03:49 -0200 (BRST) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:03:49 -0200 (BRST) From: Ricardo Campos Passanezi To: James Housley Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problems after compiling & installing a new Kernel In-Reply-To: <39E44CE4.DC78D2F1@thehousleys.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ... > > > > I've "csuped" the source after installing. Also yesterday. > > > > Any ideas of what have happened here? > > > No not a clue. But if you send us /var/run/dmesg.boot and your new > kernel config file we might be able to figure out something. > Well, I triied again. It worked now: i used another kernel config, which I was using with a FreeBSD 4.1-Stable. Thanks for you help, anyway... Ricardo. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 5:34:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f210.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2074C37B66C; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 05:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 05:34:11 -0700 Received: from 216.78.154.133 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:34:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.78.154.133] From: "stan deese" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Follies Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:34:11 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 12:34:11.0940 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F005240:01C0337F] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG
Hi folks
10/10/2000
Be forewarned this may be the first chapter of a book. I'm writing this to relay some of the adventures (pitfalls) I've had with freebsd. Most of this is from memory, so please don't look for absolute accuracy in anything. My memory isn't just clouded, by both residual (illegal), and current (legal) drugs, it's jaded also, so some things I choose not to remember.

Briefly, in '81? I bought my kids an Apple II+, cause I knew the wave was coming. The thing would only stick an A: on the screen. What did I do? I dove into BASIC, DOS, and the bunch at HARDcore. The steps to hacking had been taken, and I was hooked. Later a C64, then, with 286, a pc. By then laws had been passed, banks were being plundered. Me being a family man, I hung up the wardialer. Kept on at my "real" job, and occasionally stopped by the computer shop. I ran across WINDOWS.286, and have had a windows platform since.

I'm getting old, I'm overweight, I'm VERY tired, wet, cold, hungry, broke, ugly, etc., ad nauseum. Due to injury, I'm racked with pain, stress, and high blood pressure. Hence the current drugs. ASIDE from all of that, I really don't feel good.

A while back boredom "really" set in. I thought I would look around for something better than windows to entertain me. DL'd BEos, this has to be good, it's called from windows. It trashed my windows drive to the point I had to format. Ftp'p Redhat, anaconda bailed out with errors right after fips. Next I start looking at FreeBSD, everything I read is great! This has to be the one for me. I fumble around in ftp, find the files and start the transfer on 56k. The remaining time says 373 days, or something like that, finally getting down to 2 or 3 days. I say no way!

I called my isp and ordered DSL. Now I'm getting the speed I feel I deserve! Grabbed the files (4 Hours or so), made the flops and started install. All went great until I startx. Nothing but a grey screen. Tried everything I could figure out. Grey screen. Glitch in the files I say,

I'll try again. This time I get the iso image, can't go wrong, right? Burn the cd and boot, nothing. The file size on cd is 20 megs short of the file size on ftp. Ftp again, this time it works. Clean boot, all goes smooth. I've now got video and everything! Except all the files I can't seem to find.

Next day. I start up, thinking today I'm going to get into bsd, and find out what all the hoopla is about. What I really get is "write timeout on ads1 resetting", FOREVER! Stan, pal, something ain't right here, it's time for a trip to the bookstore. It can't all be my fault, all I did was install the stuff. So I take a couple of pills, and stumble off to the mall.

I find Mr. Lehey's book, the Complete FreeBSD, cd's and all. Perfect. While flipping through I see references to PERL. I grab PERL for Dummies. Before I get to the checkout I happen on Mr. Anderson's, UNIX Secrets. Gotta have that one, it's obvious I need the secrets, since no one else is telling them. Armed with $100 worth of books and fresh cd's I stumble back home.

The obvious place to start is with Greg's book, so I commence to read. The book is full of great information. The problem is that Mr. Lehey is a programmer, and the book is written like a program. (Don't get mad Greg, I'm just telling a story. :-)) (jmp)For more info on this see chapter 12, (rsrgt)for more on that see page 622, (call)be sure to check the ERRATA @freebsd.org. To say I've lost my page is an understatement! ROFL

Anyway, I feel I've read enough to at least install again. I start clean, with the drive (8g seagate) freshly dos formatted, boot from the new cd, and go. This lasted until the disk prep & pkg add was to start. There the system froze. So I brainstorm, and decide to boot from the cd (4.4), and install from the hard drive 4.1 files. It actually worked until I tried to reboot. All the errors in the known computer world flashed on my screen. What do you do? You call and order a new computer. Mammy's been wanting her own computer for some time now, she NEEDS it so she can play backgammon & hearts at Excite. This K62-500 should suffice, shouldn't it? Besides,I want an Athlon. So I order a barebones Athlon 800 w/128m & 20g wd. In the meantime......

I call BSDI and start asking stupid questions, because I don't know the smart questions. You can only get the right answer to the right question, right? Remember, I've been a windows guy for a long time, and that's like doom, when you figure out the maze, you don't need any help.

I was lucky (finally), and got Chris. He walked me through on recovering from the crash. Ran fsck interactively, (through fixit I think) which I haven't been able to do again. And got me back running. It seems there was a problem with the drive, and this line "sysctl -h atamodes= pio,pio,pio,pio" fixed it. Makes sense to me! Problem was that he didn't tell me how to keep the line. Called again and he told me where to put it.;-) (Thanks Chris)

My new computer is here! During the unpacking and taking stock, trying to figure out what I wanted in this new machine, another great revelation came on me! Mammy doesn't need a 20g drive to play hearts & net chat with mom. I'll just stick windows on the 8g, swap with her and she'll never know the difference. Right?

Now I'm set. New stuff, 2 20g's, cd, cdrw, bubblejet, laser, and dsl. Fans all over this box! Sounds like a mainframe room. New install again. Perfect, but I still can't find a lot of files. Like Netscape. I've been lurking on the lists, and saw a lot about buildworld. So I start reading the man pages about it. There's a lot to read, the only solution is to print the stuff. I'd never remember it all. BUT I can't print! I don't have the printer setup.

Back to windows & on to .org, and I print. I print build??????, for a while, link to make & print there for a while. May as well print printer setup too. And, while I'm at it usb, dsl modems, (didn't find anything there)......

Back to buildworld. I read the man pages, and followed the instructions. Didn't work. It stopped on some sort of permission thing. Read some more and did the chflg thing, started over & stopped again at the same place. I had something the good DR. Perlstein had put in the lists, and tried that. Didn't work either. Some directory doesn't exist. Now I'm thinking this build????stuff must have something to do with the files that aren't working so I've GOT to figure it out! I install again! After the 2nd attempt at build I couldn't reboot. With the new install I take DR. Perlsteins notes, and the man pages, and I think figured out what I should have done. All the builds completed, plus it will still boot. (If your reading this Alfred, xanax and sex are really good for irritability. :-))

Now, to this point in time one month has passed since I first started to "headbang" with FreeBSD. Have I learned anything? Probably not, but it's like having a new Apple all over again. My laser printer will now feed blank pages at will. I haven't even started trying to get the modem going. Mammy wants to know why her hard drive is so much "louder" than it used to be. I have Netscape on the desktop, but alas, all the text is in Japanese, and I really don't feel well enough to start on that too.............

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 5:49:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from funnel.cisco.com (funnel.cisco.com [161.44.131.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C061437B503 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 05:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (bmcgover-pc.cisco.com [161.44.133.25]) by funnel.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA22968; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26149; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:51:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Message-Id: <200010111251.IAA26149@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> To: imp@village.org, wmoran@columbus.rr.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 29160 on FreeBSD Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:51:09 -0400 From: Brian McGovern Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I run a system with 2 x Adaptec 29160N with no problems. I have a disk on each, mirrored with vinum. Performance is great, and its been stable. -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 7:19:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.abacus.co.uk (mailgate.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D7E37B503 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 07:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abacus.co.uk (pcantony.bl.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.111]) by mailgate.abacus.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09663 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:22:43 +0100 Message-ID: <39E476F6.81ED5047@abacus.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:19:34 +0100 From: Antony T Curtis Organization: Abacus Polar PLC (UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-20000828-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Plex86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there anyone out there who knows enough about FreeBSD to be able to make the plex86 project run on FreeBSD? Since we don't have a true native VMWare, wouldn't it be good if we're supported by this effort instead? -- ANTONY T CURTIS Tel: +44 (1635) 36222 Abacus Polar Holdings Ltd Fax: +44 (1635) 38670 > "All my friends and I are crazy. That's the only thing that keeps us > sane." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 7:24:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BD237B66C for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 07:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F0D2E449 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:24:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9BEOO045247; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:24:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14820.30744.622275.854858@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:24:24 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world In-Reply-To: <39E3CCF6.6930F864@adelphia.net> References: <39E3CCF6.6930F864@adelphia.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "NT" == Nader Turki writes: NT> Sorry I didn't explain the problem. NT> I'm doing make world remotely using telnet. NT> I got disconnected from the Network, had to wait for a while till my cable NT> modem work and i telnet again to my server and did make world again 'cause NT> it was stoped. NT> Is that going to be a problem? I mean should I do somethin' else them make NT> world? 'cause the first time it was done almost half way. make world >& /var/tmp/makeworld.out & tail -f /var/tmp/makeworld.out the build will continue even if you get disconnected. all output goes to /var/tmp/makeworld.out and you can view it at your leisure, or watch it constantly with tail as above. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 7:54:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B5B37B503 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 07:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1992E449 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:54:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9BEs7Q85874; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:54:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14820.32527.475406.708817@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:54:07 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world In-Reply-To: <39E479D6.E867D9CB@thehousleys.net> References: <39E3CCF6.6930F864@adelphia.net> <14820.30744.622275.854858@onceler.kciLink.com> <39E479D6.E867D9CB@thehousleys.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "JH" == James Housley writes: JH> nohup make world & JH> disown %1 JH> tail -f nohup.out JH> nohup is designed just for that. nohup is a no-op on csh derivatives, as far as I know. also: [onceler]% man disown No manual entry for disown [onceler]% which disown disown: Command not found. where from did you get this command? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 8:39:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (hugo10.ka.punkt.de [194.77.233.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E55937B66C for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ry93@localhost) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA47082 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:39:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93) From: "Patrick M. Hausen" Message-Id: <200010111539.RAA47082@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> Subject: make buildworld failing in Sendmail To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:39:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all! -stable as cvsuped today fails make buildworld on my machine: cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -DNEWDB -DNIS -DNETINET6 -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -o sendmail alias.o arpadate.o bf_torek.o clock.o collect.o conf.o control.o convtime.o daemon.o deliver.o domain.o envelope.o err.o headers.o macro.o main.o map.o mci.o milter.o mime.o parseaddr.o queue.o readcf.o recipient.o savemail.o sfsasl.o shmticklib.o srvrsmtp.o stab.o stats.o sysexits.o timers.o trace.o udb.o usersmtp.o util.o version.o /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a conf.o: In function `validate_connection': conf.o(.text+0x1e8e): undefined reference to `hosts_ctl' deliver.o: In function `deliver': deliver.o(.text+0x2bba): undefined reference to `setusercontext' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail. I installed 4.1-RELEASE, then cvsuped all the sources. Any hints? TIA, Patrick -- --- WEB ISS GmbH - Scheffelstr. 17a - 76135 Karlsruhe - 0721/9109-0 --- ------ Patrick M. Hausen - Technical Director - hausen@punkt.de ------- "Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern technology. Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 8:45:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DF237B66C for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9BFjWQ24584; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:45:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <39E48B1A.E6E0A9C@thehousleys.net> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:45:30 -0400 From: James Housley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Patrick M. Hausen" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make buildworld failing in Sendmail References: <200010111539.RAA47082@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Patrick M. Hausen" wrote: > > Hi all! > > -stable as cvsuped today fails make buildworld on my machine: > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -DNEWDB -DNIS -DNETINET6 -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -o sendmail alias.o arpadate.o bf_torek.o clock.o collect.o conf.o control.o convtime.o daemon.o deliver.o domain.o envelope.o err.o headers.o macro.o main.o map.o mci.o milter.o mime.o parseaddr.o queue.o readcf.o recipient.o savemail.o sfsasl.o shmticklib.o srvrsmtp.o stab.o stats.o sysexits.o timers.o trace.o udb.o usersmtp.o util.o version.o /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../lib/libsmutil/libsmutil.a > conf.o: In function `validate_connection': > conf.o(.text+0x1e8e): undefined reference to `hosts_ctl' > deliver.o: In function `deliver': > deliver.o(.text+0x2bba): undefined reference to `setusercontext' > *** Error code 1 > That is related to libwrap. I think a fix was done this morning. Try getting sources agian. Jim -- jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- The wise man built his network upon Un*x. The foolish man built his network upon Windows. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 8:47:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from astra.domix.de (dial-213-168-73-92.netcologne.de [213.168.73.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76B037B502 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dr@localhost) by astra.domix.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9BFnb303243 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:49:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dr) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:49:37 +0200 From: Dominik Rothert To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world Message-ID: <20001011174937.A3231@astra.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Vivek Khera wrote: > [onceler]% man disown > No manual entry for disown > [onceler]% which disown > disown: Command not found. It's a shell-builtin. (zsh) disown [ job ... ] job ... &| job ... &! Remove the specified jobs from the job table; the shell will no longer report their status, and will not complain if you try to exit an interactive shell with them running or stopped. If no job is specified, use the current job. -Dominik -- /* Dominik Rothert | dr@astorit.com * * A S T O R I T | http://www.astorit.com/ * * Hohenzollernring 52 | fon +49-221-251440 * * 50672 Cologne, Germany | fax +49-221-251443 */:wq! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 9:21:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from paloma17.e0k.nbg-hannover.de (paloma17.e0k.nbg-hannover.de [62.159.219.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A1A937B503 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 504 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2000 16:21:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mhntwks) ([62.96.149.150]) (envelope-sender ) by 0 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Oct 2000 16:21:08 -0000 From: "Marcus Henschel" To: Subject: awe64 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:22:08 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I am using a awe64 pnp sound card on 4.1 stable. I configured my kernel like this: ( Sound Section) #AWE64 device pcm device sbc device joy0 at isa? port IO_GAME all seems to be fine, but i get the following message at bootime: sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 5 pcm0: on sbc0 joy1: at port 0x208-0x20f on isa0 unknown0: at port 0x620-0x623 on isa0 how do i activate the wavetable chip ? any ideas ? Marcus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 9:40:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9579237B503 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [204.138.45.2]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2A1137F12; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:40:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25747; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:40:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14820.38918.175327.624955@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:40:38 -0400 (EDT) To: Drew Sanford Cc: Greg Pavelcak , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [stable] Re: Laptop <-> Desktop by ethernet In-Reply-To: <39E30B3A.AAF9B7BF@bellsouth.net> References: <39E30B3A.AAF9B7BF@bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Drew" == Drew Sanford writes: Drew> Greg, I'm not much of an NFS guru, but I'll try to help you Drew> narrow this down a little: >> I want to attch my laptop and desktop by ethernet. >> is found and pccardd assigns ed0 to my linksys etherfast pcmpc100. >> NFS Portmap: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to send Actually, I've found that PCCard ed0's have a flaw. Try turning off full-duplex operation on the fxp0. The flaw is that the ed0's have no bits to twiddle on FreeBSD so you can't set them full/half duplex. Autonegotiation seems to work --- the lights on my dongle indicate full duplex operation, but the collisions/errors I get indicate that something's not happy. I find the card works fine when my switch is hardwired to half duplex (works with a DLINK switch and with an extreme black diamond) Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 10:14: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alaska.net (wellspring.nwc.alaska.net [209.112.130.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8201E37B503 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alaska.net (grpcdial.alaska.net [209.112.134.74]) by alaska.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA16258 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:13:53 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <39E49FC7.98FCEAD4@alaska.net> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:13:43 -0800 From: Jason Neumann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stable Subject: Fatal Tarp in 4.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, A few days ago I received a 'Fatal Trap 12' followed by a spontaneous reboot on 4.1.1-stable. My installed src was up to date as of Sept. 29, 2000. It concerns me because I have never had a, 'stable' version of BSD crash before. Can anyone tell me where I can find out what the Fatal Trap numbers are? Thank you in adavance. Sincerely, Jason Neumann To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 10:20: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0338D37B503 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9BHJe014823; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:19:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001011131333.03fb91b0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:14:45 -0400 To: Jason Neumann , Stable From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Fatal Tarp in 4.1.1 In-Reply-To: <39E49FC7.98FCEAD4@alaska.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:13 AM 10/11/00 -0800, Jason Neumann wrote: >Greetings, >A few days ago I received a 'Fatal Trap 12' followed by a spontaneous >reboot on 4.1.1-stable. My installed src was up to date as of Sept. 29, >2000. > >It concerns me because I have never had a, 'stable' version of BSD crash >before. Can anyone tell me where I can find out what the Fatal Trap >numbers are? Did the flurry of commits since Sept 29th affect the hardware you have ? Try updating to as of today, or perhaps wait until the ncurses fix goes in as well... ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 10:37:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from search.sparks.net (search.sparks.net [208.5.188.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A494337B502 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by search.sparks.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 49F57DC74; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:31:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by search.sparks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318B2DC73; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:31:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:31:10 -0400 (EDT) From: David Miller To: Andy Newman Cc: "Brandon D. Valentine" , Warner Losh , Bill Moran , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone using adaptec 29160 In-Reply-To: <20001010191538.A36348@juju.bsn> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Andy Newman wrote: [snip] > During the "writing intelligently" portion of a bonnie run (which I > figure is just good sized block output)... > > (da2:ahc0:0:2:0): SCB 0x74 - timed out in Message-in phase, SEQADDR == 0x146 I'm just taking a wild guess here, but these timed-out messages, combined with: > > Also of note is that under load the Ethernet can report... > > > xl0: transmission error: 90 > xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 120 bytes > xl0: transmission error: 90 > xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 180 bytes > xl0: transmission error: 90 > xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 240 bytes > xl0: transmission error: 90 > xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 300 bytes > xl0: transmission error: 90 > xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 360 bytes > > > Which I gather is to do with bus hogging, i.e, the 29160. Is probably a reflection of the fact that you can hook more up to a PCI bus than you can get through it. IE, pci is only 132 MB/sec, and you can probably exceed that with just the 29160, never mind the ethernet. The Tyan thunder series is looking better all the time:) --- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 11:12:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012F937B66C for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDBA2E449 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:12:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9BICcd34526; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:12:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14820.44438.708407.66977@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:12:38 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make buildworld failing In-Reply-To: <200010091811.MAA13444@harmony.village.org> References: <14817.54397.228468.872440@onceler.kciLink.com> <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl> <200010091811.MAA13444@harmony.village.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "WL" == Warner Losh writes: WL> In message <14817.54397.228468.872440@onceler.kciLink.com> Vivek Khera writes: WL> : My question is why does /usr/obj need the schg flag set on anything in WL> : the first place? It basically means that on a secure system you have WL> : to reboot to single user just to delete the build tree. WL> Because it installs a subset of the tree in to /usr/obj and that's the WL> standard way that installs happen. I think that you can say make WL> buildworld -DNOFCHG to prevent this. I did a grep for FCHG in all the Makefiles but found none. Then I did this: cd /usr/obj find . -flags schg -print and yes, /usr/obj is not NFS mounted. I think that there are no fchg flags set now in the buildworld process. I couldn't find any manually either, with "ls -loR". -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 12:42: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aslan.scsiguy.com (aslan.scsiguy.com [63.229.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F44B37B6A5 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aslan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.scsiguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9AJvN952667; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:57:23 GMT (envelope-from gibbs@aslan.scsiguy.com) Message-Id: <200010101957.e9AJvN952667@aslan.scsiguy.com> To: "Geoffrey C. Marshall" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI Speed In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:55:12 +1100." <00101022055402.24236@shalimar.net.au> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:57:23 +0000 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >I recently upgraded from 3.4 STABLE to 4.1.1. Not without a >number of unsolved (yet) problems. Are you running 4.1.1R or are you building from sources? More recent versions of the 4.1-stable ahc driver have negotiation diagnostic information that is printed during a boot -v. This information is what I need to be able to figure out what is going wrong. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 12:42:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4495437B76D for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20013 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2000 19:15:40 -0000 Received: from p3ee21636.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.226.22.54) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 11 Oct 2000 19:15:40 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22482 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:39:05 +0200 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:39:05 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Syntax error in ports .mk files? (galeon pkg reg) Message-ID: <20001011193905.B31338@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Stable References: <20001011011423.A26301@hal9000.bsdonline.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20001011011423.A26301@hal9000.bsdonline.org>; from A.J.Caines@altavista.net on Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 01:14:23AM -0400 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 01:14 -0400, Andrew J Caines wrote: > > Ports cvsup'ed less than an hour ago. After several clean > builds and installs with package registration, I build Galeon > (/usr/ports/www/galeon) and on "make install" got the following > errors during package registration: > > # make install > [snip] > ===> Registering installation for galeon-0.7.6 > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.gnome.mk", line 265: Malformed \ > conditional (!defined(HAVE_GNOME) || \ > ${CONFIGURE_ARGS:S/--localstatedir=//} \ ^^^^^ > == ${CONFIGURE_ARGS}) [ line breaks inserted by me G.S. ] I (believe to) recognize what I have read in cvs-all about "merge substitution macros from the other *BSD platforms to aid in openpackages' growth". Is there a need to upgrade my world before I can use ports in the near future? (If so, chances are it's a new FAQ raised every five days in the -stable list. Does this require a HEADS UP to avoid list pollution?) virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 12:42:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genesis.k.pl (genesis.korbank.pl [195.117.162.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6D537B6B8 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ns88@localhost) by genesis.k.pl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9BJGF353160 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:16:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:16:14 +0200 From: Tomasz Paszkowski To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Dmesg after reboot Message-ID: <20001011211613.A1616@genesis.k.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does FreeBSD saves before reboot content of kernel message buffer ?? # dmesg Connection attempt to TCP 212.244.96.94:139 from 195.117.162.138:1918 Connection attempt to TCP 212.244.96.94:139 from 195.117.162.138:1918 Connection attempt to TCP 212.244.96.94:139 from 195.117.162.138:1918 nfs server 10.7.210.14:/usr/local/routers/fs/bigspider: not responding nfs server 10.7.210.14:/usr/local/routers/fs/bigspider: is alive again nfs server 10.7.210.14:/usr/local/routers/fs/bigspider: not responding nfs server 10.7.210.14:/usr/local/routers/fs/bigspider: is alive again Connection attempt to UDP 3ffe:8010:001c::0004:ff11:33446 from 3ffe:8010:0059::0002:37172 Connection attempt to TCP 212.244.96.94:139 from 195.117.162.138:1335 Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped syncing disks... done unmount of / failed (BUSY) Uptime: 27d21h34m20s Rebooting... Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-20000805-STABLE #0: Fri Sep 8 15:30:39 CEST 2000 ns88@korbolin.ks.k.pl:/usr/src/sys/compile/BIGSPIDER Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: i486DX (486-class CPU) real memory = 4521984 (4416K bytes) avail memory = 2314240 (2260K bytes) npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface isa0: on motherboard atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 ed0 at port 0x300-0x31f iomem 0xd8000 irq 11 on isa0 ed0: address 00:60:52:08:98:cd, type NE2000 (16 bit) ed1 at port 0x320-0x33f iomem 0xd8000 irq 5 on isa0 ed1: address 00:60:52:08:98:cf, type NE2000 (16 bit) ed2 at port 0x340-0x35f iomem 0xd8000 irq 12 on isa0 ed2: address 00:c0:df:4a:aa:7f, type NE2000 (16 bit) RTC BIOS diagnostic error 2 bootpc_init: wired to interface 'ed0' bootpc_init: using network interface 'ed0' Bootpc testing starting bootpc hw address is 0:60:52:8:98:cd My ip address is 10.7.210.9 Server ip address is 10.7.210.14 Gateway ip address is 0.0.0.0 boot file is /bigspider Subnet mask is 255.255.255.248 Router is 10.7.210.14 rootfs is 10.7.210.14:/usr/local/routers/fs/bigspider Mounting root from nfs: NFS ROOT: 10.7.210.14:/usr/local/routers/fs/bigspider -- _ _ _ _ _ / \ | | / / / \ / \ --- Tomasz Paszkowski ------------------------------ | |\ \| | \ \ |/ \||/ \| === IPv4://3575244866 === IPNg://3ffe:8010:59::2 === /_/ \__/ /_/ \_/ \_/ -------------------Powered by Brain and Keyboard --- -- _ _ _ _ _ / \ | | / / / \ / \ --- Tomasz Paszkowski ------------------------------ | |\ \| | \ \ |/ \||/ \| === IPv4://3575244866 === IPNg://3ffe:8010:59::2 === /_/ \__/ /_/ \_/ \_/ -------------------Powered by Brain and Keyboard --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 12:47:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E3437B502 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9BJlWi20204; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:47:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA37714; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:47:31 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010111947.NAA37714@harmony.village.org> To: Tomasz Paszkowski Subject: Re: Dmesg after reboot Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:16:14 +0200." <20001011211613.A1616@genesis.k.pl> References: <20001011211613.A1616@genesis.k.pl> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:47:31 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20001011211613.A1616@genesis.k.pl> Tomasz Paszkowski writes: : Does FreeBSD saves before reboot content of kernel message buffer ?? No[*] Warner [*] Some laptops seem to preserve the dmesg buffer and FreeBSD uses it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 12:52:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genesis.k.pl (genesis.korbank.pl [195.117.162.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF25637B66D for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ns88@localhost) by genesis.k.pl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9BJqif67075 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:52:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:52:44 +0200 From: Tomasz Paszkowski To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dmesg after reboot Message-ID: <20001011215244.A47039@genesis.k.pl> References: <20001011211613.A1616@genesis.k.pl> <200010111947.NAA37714@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010111947.NAA37714@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 01:47:31PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 01:47:31PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20001011211613.A1616@genesis.k.pl> Tomasz Paszkowski writes: > : Does FreeBSD saves before reboot content of kernel message buffer ?? > > No[*] > > Warner > > [*] Some laptops seem to preserve the dmesg buffer and FreeBSD uses > it. But it is 486DX2 as it was shown in dmesg listing -- _ _ _ _ _ / \ | | / / / \ / \ --- Tomasz Paszkowski ------------------------------ | |\ \| | \ \ |/ \||/ \| === IPv4://3575244866 === IPNg://3ffe:8010:59::2 === /_/ \__/ /_/ \_/ \_/ -------------------Powered by Brain and Keyboard --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 12:53: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from logger.gamma.ru (logger.gamma.ru [194.186.254.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1979437B66C for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ivt@localhost) by logger.gamma.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA22839 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:52:48 +0400 (MSD) From: Igor Timkin Message-Id: <200010111952.XAA22839@logger.gamma.ru> Subject: adaptec 39160 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:52:48 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL82 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 4.1.1-stable checked out today at 14.30 GMT: FreeBSD news.gamma.ru 4.1.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE #0: Wed Oct 11 18:56:19 MSD 2000 ivt@news.gamma.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/NEWS i386 Adaptec 39160 rev.2.57.2, matherboard is ASUS P/I-P65UP5/C-P6ND, 2xPPro200. During boot: Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (~30 sec pause) Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode: mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 fault virtual address = 0x34 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0134c7f stack pointer = 0x10:0xff80df64 frame pointer = 0x10:0xff80df8c code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processer eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = cam <- SMP: XXX trap number = 12 panic: page fault mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 boot() called on cpu#1 syncing disks... done Uptime: 1m2s c0134a6c t ahc_set_recoveryscb c0134aec T ahc_timeout c013528c t ahc_abort_ccb This kernel with 2940U2W (ahc1) work without problem: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE #0: Wed Oct 11 18:56:19 MSD 2000 ivt@news.gamma.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/NEWS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium Pro (199.43-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping = 9 Features=0xfbff real memory = 536870912 (524288K bytes) avail memory = 519938048 (507752K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02a1000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 1.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xe800-0xe80f at device 1.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ahc0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xfa000000-0xfa000fff irq 19 at device 9.0 on pci0 aic7880: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xf9800000-0xf9800fff irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci0 aic7890/91: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs fxp0: port 0xd400-0xd41f mem 0xf9000000-0xf90fffff,0xfb000000-0xfb000fff irq 17 at device 11.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:41:3d:89 ahc2: port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xf8800000-0xf8800fff irq 16 at device 12.0 on pci0 aic7880: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ed0 at port 0x280-0x29f iomem 0xd8000-0xdbfff irq 5 on isa0 ed0: address 00:00:c0:a4:2e:61, type WD8013EPC (16 bit) APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to deny, logging disabled SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! ad0: 12416MB [25228/16/63] at ata0-master using WDMA2 Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle da4 at ahc1 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da4: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da4: 35003MB (71687340 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4462C) da5 at ahc1 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da5: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da5: 35003MB (71687340 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4462C) da6 at ahc2 bus 0 target 11 lun 0 da6: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da6: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da6: 4091MB (8380080 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 521C) da7 at ahc2 bus 0 target 15 lun 0 da7: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da7: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da7: 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) da3 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da3: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da3: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 555C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) da1: 2077MB (4254819 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 264C) da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) da2: 2077MB (4254819 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 264C) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) da0: 4157MB (8515173 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 530C) vinum: loaded vinum: reading configuration from /dev/da2d vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da1d vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da0s1d current (2 Oct 2000) work without problem with 39160: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Oct 2 21:56:00 MSD 2000 ivt@newsfeed.gamma.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NEWSFEED Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (451.02-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x673 Stepping = 3 Features=0x387fbff real memory = 1073729536 (1048564K bytes) avail memory = 1042632704 (1018196K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc029a000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 4.1 pci0: at 4.2 irq 19 Timecounter "PIIX" frequency 3579545 Hz pci0: at 4.3 ahc0: port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xe2000000-0xe2000fff irq 19 at device 6.0 on pci0 aic7890/91: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0xb800-0xb8ff mem 0xe1800000-0xe1800fff irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci0 aic7899: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc2: port 0xb400-0xb4ff mem 0xe1000000-0xe1000fff irq 19 at device 10.1 on pci0 aic7899: Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs fxp0: port 0xb000-0xb03f mem 0xe0000000-0xe00fffff,0xe0800000-0xe0800fff irq 17 at device 11.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:5d:b4:a3 fxp1: port 0xa800-0xa81f mem 0xdf800000-0xdf8fffff,0xe3000000-0xe3000fff irq 16 at device 12.0 on pci0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:a3:5a:85 isa0: too many memory ranges atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 isa_dmainit(2, 1024) failed fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to deny, logging disabled Waiting 3 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a da6 at ahc2 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da6: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da6: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da6: 17501MB (35843670 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2231C) da4 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da4: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit) da4: 17366MB (35566480 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2213C) da5 at ahc1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da5: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit) da5: 17366MB (35566480 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2213C) da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit) da2: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 555C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit) da1: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 555C) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit) da0: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 555C) da3 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da3: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit) da3: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 555C) SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! vinum: loaded vinum: reading configuration from /dev/da3d vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da2d vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da1d vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da0d To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 13: 7:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-176-106.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD3137B502 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9BK53h06903; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:05:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200010112005.e9BK53h06903@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Tomasz Paszkowski Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dmesg after reboot In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:52:44 +0200." <20001011215244.A47039@genesis.k.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:05:03 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 01:47:31PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <20001011211613.A1616@genesis.k.pl> Tomasz Paszkowski writes: > > : Does FreeBSD saves before reboot content of kernel message buffer ?? > > > > No[*] > > > > Warner > > > > [*] Some laptops seem to preserve the dmesg buffer and FreeBSD uses > > it. > > But it is 486DX2 as it was shown in dmesg listing If the message buffer magic number has not been corrupted by the BIOS, FreeBSD will reuse it. This works on any system that doesn't zero memory on a warm boot. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 13:11: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aslan.scsiguy.com (aslan.scsiguy.com [63.229.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDA537B502 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aslan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.scsiguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9AKsvZ00715; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:54:57 GMT (envelope-from gibbs@aslan.scsiguy.com) Message-Id: <200010102054.e9AKsvZ00715@aslan.scsiguy.com> To: Igor Timkin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adaptec 39160 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:52:48 +0400." <200010111952.XAA22839@logger.gamma.ru> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:54:57 +0000 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >4.1.1-stable checked out today at 14.30 GMT: >FreeBSD news.gamma.ru 4.1.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE #0: Wed Oct 11 18:56:1 >9 MSD 2000 ivt@news.gamma.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/NEWS i386 > >Adaptec 39160 rev.2.57.2, matherboard is ASUS P/I-P65UP5/C-P6ND, 2xPPro200. >During boot: I'm still looking into why the panic occurs, but the root of your problem is that interrupts are not being properly routed to the second function of the 39160. If you pop into your system bios and set the IRQ routing to use the 8259 instead of I/O APICs, it will probably work. That has been my experience with my PR440FX motherboard with twin PPRO 200s. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 13:25:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC82537B502 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA16802; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:25:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-71.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.71) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma016800; Wed Oct 11 15:25:46 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20001011151849.00cd2100@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:25:51 -0500 To: Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: make buildworld failing In-Reply-To: <14820.44438.708407.66977@onceler.kciLink.com> References: <200010091811.MAA13444@harmony.village.org> <14817.54397.228468.872440@onceler.kciLink.com> <20001008154111.D96958@freebie.demon.nl> <200010091811.MAA13444@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:12 PM 10/11/00 -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: >I did a grep for FCHG in all the Makefiles but found none. > >Then I did this: > >cd /usr/obj >find . -flags schg -print > >and yes, /usr/obj is not NFS mounted. > >I think that there are no fchg flags set now in the buildworld >process. I couldn't find any manually either, with "ls -loR". The change came between 4.0R and 4.1R or maybe before that. It's been months since a 'chflags' was needed. Much much longer and forget the files that were affected. Those that are interested and know the files can check the commit logs, if it shows there. More than likely have to dig deeper, since I have all 4.x commits from release on. Flags are a non-issue at this point. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 13:29:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.libero.it (smtp2.libero.it [193.70.192.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3752637B66D for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newluxor (151.33.114.91) by smtp2.libero.it; 11 Oct 2000 22:29:22 +0200 Received: from localhost (flag@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by NewLuxor (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9BKRYW00214 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:27:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from flag@libero.it) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:27:34 +0200 (CEST) From: flaggaccio@libero.it X-Sender: flag@NewLuxor To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Strange net errors: how can I trace it? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got a problem that give me a lots of headaches. I tried to ask in: quetions, here and net but no one seems to be able to help me. So, anybody know a good way to trace the error? The symptoms are this: -I connect to my ISP with a dial-up connection (external modem Trust Communicator 56k ESP-2) -I got a lot of time-out errors when I try to connect to some sites (and traceroute tell me that they are up and running) -I got a lot of UDP errors (DNS timeout, etcetc) -The errors are a bit random: some sites seems to be unreachable, but if I redial sometimes they are ok. A typical site that give me trouble is x.mame.net but I'm able to reach it by traceroute Ok, that's all. =) If anybody can help me, I would be very happy =) Paolo p.s. the same connection works well under Linux, Windows, BeOS , QNX, etcetc p.p.s. I got 4.1.1 STABLE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 13:45:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E08937B502 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9BKjFQ76978; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:45:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <39E4D159.449A6E98@thehousleys.net> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:45:13 -0400 From: James Housley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: flaggaccio@libero.it Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange net errors: how can I trace it? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG flaggaccio@libero.it wrote: > > -I connect to my ISP with a dial-up connection (external modem Trust > Communicator 56k ESP-2) > Does that mean it has an ESP UART chip? If so try adding: options COM_ESP to your kernel and recompiling. Jim -- jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- The wise man built his network upon Un*x. The foolish man built his network upon Windows. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 17:46:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lynx.aba.net.au (lynx.esec.com.au [203.21.84.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBE7837B502 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5263 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2000 00:46:11 -0000 Received: from klee.esec.com.au (HELO esec.com.au) (203.21.85.206) by lynx.esec.com.au with SMTP; 12 Oct 2000 00:46:11 -0000 Message-ID: <39E50C1A.FF9FFB55@esec.com.au> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:55:54 +1100 From: Kevin LEE Organization: eSec Pty. Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: HowTo generate ssh_host_dsa_key key pairs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all: By meragemaster on work PC for 4.1.1, I fixed the initial reboot up sshd error (ie cannot find /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key). Howerver, I try to do the meragemester at my home PC, the sshd error still comes up. I wonder anyone know how a ssh_host_dsa_key pair is generated by the system or how I can generate them manually. Thanks, Kevin -- Kevin LEE Tel: +61 3 8371 5300 Software Architect Direct: +61 3 8371 5378 eSec Limited Fax: +61 3 8371 5399 "Protecting Your e-Business" Web: http://www.esec.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 18: 2:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from globe.go-v.co.jp (gov.picky.or.jp [202.245.159.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78C437B502 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vip.go-v.co.jp ([210.134.116.16]) by globe.go-v.co.jp (8.8.5/3.7W-12/30/99) with ESMTP id KAA18474 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:01:43 GMT Message-Id: <4.3.1-J.20001012100129.036b7e08@210.134.116.1> X-Sender: shiomi@210.134.116.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1-J Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:02:08 +0900 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org From: Hideki Shiomi Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 18:29:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF1F37B503 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00756; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:29:08 -0700 Message-ID: <39E513E4.7EE47315@urx.com> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:29:08 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin LEE Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: HowTo generate ssh_host_dsa_key key pairs References: <39E50C1A.FF9FFB55@esec.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kevin LEE wrote: > > Hi all: > > By meragemaster on work PC for 4.1.1, I fixed the initial reboot up sshd > error (ie cannot find /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key). > > Howerver, I try to do the meragemester at my home PC, the sshd error > still comes up. I wonder anyone > know how a ssh_host_dsa_key pair is generated by the system or how I > can generate them manually. I used the example at http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/ssh.html. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 18:37:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from krycek.zoominternet.net (krycek.zoominternet.net [63.67.120.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C4F1E37B503 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30260 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2000 01:37:34 -0000 Received: from lcp218.cvzoom.net (208.230.68.218) by krycek.zoominternet.net with SMTP; 12 Oct 2000 01:37:34 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:37:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Donn Miller To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Plip to a Windows 95 box Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone successfully do this? I tried this with that Crynwr PLIP.exe port of PLIP for DOS and Trumpet Winsock, but to no avail. If someone's got any tips or tricks on how to do this, please let me know. I searched Deja, and all I could come up with was that no one reported successfully making a plip connection to Windows. Yes, I tried using both link0 and -link0, and neither worked. I'm assuming the answer is no. - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 19:13:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diskfarm.firehouse.net (rdu25-12-043.nc.rr.com [24.25.12.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6278D37B502 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from abc@localhost) by diskfarm.firehouse.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9C2Fao35724; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:15:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from abc) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:15:36 -0400 From: Alan Clegg To: Kent Stewart Cc: Kevin LEE , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: HowTo generate ssh_host_dsa_key key pairs Message-ID: <20001011221536.B35107@diskfarm.firehouse.net> References: <39E50C1A.FF9FFB55@esec.com.au> <39E513E4.7EE47315@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <39E513E4.7EE47315@urx.com>; from kstewart@urx.com on Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 06:29:08PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Unless the network is lying to me again, Kent Stewart said: > > By meragemaster on work PC for 4.1.1, I fixed the initial reboot up sshd > > error (ie cannot find /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key). > > > > Howerver, I try to do the meragemester at my home PC, the sshd error > > still comes up. Look at /etc/rc.network. You will find: if [ ! -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key ]; then echo ' creating ssh DSA host key'; /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -d -N "" -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key fi If this is not working, then there is something else wrong. You don't need to generate the keys manually. AlanC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 19:19:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F3C37B502; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e9C2Iw598765; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:48:58 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:48:58 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: stan deese Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Follies Message-ID: <20001012114858.G98422@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from eseed1st@hotmail.com on Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 08:34:11AM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday, 11 October 2000 at 8:34:11 -0400, stan deese wrote: [-- text/html is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --] Please don't send HTML mail to these lists. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 19:53:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2568B37B503 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01112; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:53:24 -0700 Message-ID: <39E527A4.C614E5A9@urx.com> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:53:24 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Clegg Cc: Kevin LEE , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: HowTo generate ssh_host_dsa_key key pairs References: <39E50C1A.FF9FFB55@esec.com.au> <39E513E4.7EE47315@urx.com> <20001011221536.B35107@diskfarm.firehouse.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alan Clegg wrote: > > Unless the network is lying to me again, Kent Stewart said: > > > > By meragemaster on work PC for 4.1.1, I fixed the initial reboot up sshd > > > error (ie cannot find /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key). > > > > > > Howerver, I try to do the meragemester at my home PC, the sshd error > > > still comes up. > > Look at /etc/rc.network. You will find: > > if [ ! -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key ]; then > echo ' creating ssh DSA host key'; > /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -d -N "" -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key > fi > > If this is not working, then there is something else wrong. You don't need > to generate the keys manually. I hadn't seen that but ssh wouldn't connect to the remote site until I did it manually. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 19:59:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diskfarm.firehouse.net (rdu25-12-043.nc.rr.com [24.25.12.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B0937B503 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from abc@localhost) by diskfarm.firehouse.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9C31au36417; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:01:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from abc) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:01:36 -0400 From: Alan Clegg To: Kent Stewart Cc: Kevin LEE , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: HowTo generate ssh_host_dsa_key key pairs Message-ID: <20001011230136.E35799@diskfarm.firehouse.net> References: <39E50C1A.FF9FFB55@esec.com.au> <39E513E4.7EE47315@urx.com> <20001011221536.B35107@diskfarm.firehouse.net> <39E527A4.C614E5A9@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <39E527A4.C614E5A9@urx.com>; from kstewart@urx.com on Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 07:53:24PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Unless the network is lying to me again, Kent Stewart said: > I hadn't seen that but ssh wouldn't connect to the remote site until I > did it manually. Had you rebooted after mergemastering? AlanC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 20:45:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2183937B502 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01365; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:45:32 -0700 Message-ID: <39E533DC.C133F52@urx.com> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:45:32 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Clegg Cc: Kevin LEE , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: HowTo generate ssh_host_dsa_key key pairs References: <39E50C1A.FF9FFB55@esec.com.au> <39E513E4.7EE47315@urx.com> <20001011221536.B35107@diskfarm.firehouse.net> <39E527A4.C614E5A9@urx.com> <20001011230136.E35799@diskfarm.firehouse.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alan Clegg wrote: > > Unless the network is lying to me again, Kent Stewart said: > > > I hadn't seen that but ssh wouldn't connect to the remote site until I > > did it manually. > > Had you rebooted after mergemastering? I didn't like sitting there with a modified world and an old 4.0 kernel. I usually reboot immediately after running mergemaster. The real question is probably when I set sshd_enable="YES". I think I did that after the cvsup from 4.0-R to 4.1.1-Stable and build sequence. I don't think I tried using ssh to logon until the modified kernel was built and installed, which produced one more boot after that. Too many loose ends to worry about right now. If I had thought it was supposed to work, I would have done a better job of paying attention to what I did. I had one system that multi-boots W2K and FreeBSD, which hadn't been upgraded to sshd_enable="YES". I modified rc.conf and rebooted it. I could see it generate the key during the boot. I was also able to use ssh to login. I'm assuming I did something wrong on the first system that made it not work. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 11 21:40:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from router.atom.ru (atomnet.rmt.ru [194.67.161.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A114437B66C for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from laa@localhost) by router.atom.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA03732; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:40:02 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:40:02 +0400 From: "Alexandr A. Listopad" To: Tomasz Paszkowski Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dmesg after reboot Message-ID: <20001012084002.A3560@atom.ru> References: <20001011211613.A1616@genesis.k.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20001011211613.A1616@genesis.k.pl>; from ns88@genesis.k.pl on Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 09:16:14PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 09:16:14PM +0200, Tomasz Paszkowski wrote: > > > > Does FreeBSD saves before reboot content of kernel message buffer ?? > yes, you need to see at /var/run/dmesg.boot -- Laa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 0:25:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.libero.it (smtp3.libero.it [193.70.192.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0237137B66D for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 00:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from libero.it (193.70.192.61) by smtp3.libero.it; 12 Oct 2000 09:25:49 +0200 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:25:50 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Strange net errors: how can I trace it? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "flaggaccio@libero.it" To: stable@freebsd.org X-XaM3-API-Version: 1.1.9.1.22 X-SenderIP: 159.149.134.17 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Does that mean it has an ESP UART chip? If so try adding: > options COM_ESP > to your kernel and recompiling. What mean this???? The name of my modem is "Communicator 56k ESP-2", but I don't think that this apply to th UART (which is the serail-chip inside the motherboard). Anyway, I'll try this solution. Thanks. =3D) Paolo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 0:28:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.libero.it (smtp3.libero.it [193.70.192.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE99237B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 00:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from libero.it (193.70.192.61) by smtp3.libero.it; 12 Oct 2000 09:28:28 +0200 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:28:28 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Strange net errors: how can I trace it? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "flaggaccio@libero.it" To: andrew@ugh.net.au Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-XaM3-API-Version: 1.1.9.1.22 X-SenderIP: 159.149.134.17 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Have you tried turning off TCP extensions? The TCP extentions are turned off yet. Paolo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 0:41: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from copernicus.tranquility.net (copernicus.tranquility.net [206.152.117.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFA437B66C; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 00:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sid67@localhost) by copernicus.tranquility.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9C7h3403438; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 02:43:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from sid67) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 02:43:03 -0500 From: Ben Weaver To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Has my cc become corrupted? Message-ID: <20001012024303.A3305@tranquility.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am tracking stable and on my last cvsup I went to buildworld as usual, but unfortunately, the build froze in the middle. I was left with no alternative than to hit the reset button. It came back up OK, and seemed to be running smoothly (I didn't even need to fsck it). So I went to try to buildworld again, but it seems that the C compiler might be corrupt. Here is a part of the buildworld: -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh" MACHINE_ARCH=i386 TOOLS_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -f Makefile.inc1 -DNOMAN -DNOINFO -DNOHTML bootstrap-tools cd /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc; make obj; make depend; make all; make install /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/usr.bin/yacc created for /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/closure.c /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/error.c /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/lalr.c /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/lr0.c /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/main.c /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/mkpar.c /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/output.c /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/skeleton.c /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/symtab.c /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/verbose.c /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/warshall.c cc: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I thought that was strange, so I tried compiling a simple Hello World program: bash-2.03$ cat hello.c int main ( ) { printf ("Hello, world!\n"); return (0); } bash-2.03$ cc hello.c bash: /usr/bin/cc: cannot execute binary file bash-2.03$ gcc hello.c bash: /usr/bin/gcc: cannot execute binary file bash-2.03$ cpp hello.c bash: /usr/bin/cpp: cannot execute binary file Any suggestions on what I might do to fix the problem? Regards, -Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 1: 2:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jamus.xpert.com (jamus.xpert.com [199.203.132.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9E337B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 01:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roman (helo=localhost) by jamus.xpert.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #5) id 13jdK6-0006P6-00; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:02:42 +0200 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:02:41 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpc.statd In-Reply-To: <20001012003222.N25121@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Crist J . Clark wrote: > > ..oh ..that=B4s a strange hostname. > >=20 > > Which exploit is it that the attacker tries to use? I guess I=B4m not > > vulnerable cause I=B4m still around ;) >=20 > Most likely someone tried a Linux exploit on you, >=20 > http://www.securityfocus.com/vdb/bottom.html?vid=3D1480 >=20 > > Also, where can I find the ip of the attacker? Is it logged?=20 >=20 > Not 100% on this, but I think that is only logged if you used the '-d' > option. See rpc.statd(8). Which makes me think... How one protects rpc services rather then having default-deny policy on outer interface? And if it's the only interface? Of course it's possible to filter port 111 (or use /etc/hosts.allow), but the attacker can contact the rpc.statd directly. Is it possible to force some rpc service to some port so it can be filtered? --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 3:45:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genesis.k.pl (genesis.korbank.pl [195.117.162.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDD137B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 03:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ns88@localhost) by genesis.k.pl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9CAip593277 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:44:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:44:50 +0200 From: Tomasz Paszkowski To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Broken nfs client Message-ID: <20001012124449.A27025@genesis.k.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have 4.1.1-STABLE from 20001007, before the upgrade evrything works fine. Now I'am reciving a hundreds of information: nfs server not responding nfs server is alive again -- _ _ _ _ _ / \ | | / / / \ / \ --- Tomasz Paszkowski ------------------------------ | |\ \| | \ \ |/ \||/ \| === IPv4://3575244866 === IPNg://3ffe:8010:59::2 === /_/ \__/ /_/ \_/ \_/ -------------------Powered by Brain and Keyboard --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 4:14:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scully.zoominternet.net (scully.zoominternet.net [63.67.120.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A18037B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 04:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9381 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2000 11:14:54 -0000 Received: from acs-24-154-28-99.zoominternet.net (HELO topperwein.dyndns.org) (24.154.28.99) by scully.zoominternet.net with SMTP; 12 Oct 2000 11:14:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9CBF2800616 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:15:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:15:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I posted a week or two ago about my machine wedging every couple of days, and seeing RX packet drop messages due to no memory available in /var/log/messages. Specifically, the messages were "dhclient: send_packet: No buffer space available /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped!" repeated thousands of times. Sean O'Connell pointed me in the right direction, stating that this looked like an mbuf starvation problem. I've been checking my system constantly via netstat -m, and it looks like I'm leaking mbufs (mbufs in use and mbuf clusters in use increase until they hit their limit, then the machine freezes, waiting, I suppose, for an mbuf to become available). I've taken an interim measure of doubling the number of NMBCLUSTERS in my kernel, but that just puts off the inevitable. I end up rebooting when I'm at 80% mbuf cluster usage, so that I can avoid having to fsck my disks when the machine wedges and I have to hit the button. A friend of mine suggested that I instrument mbuf.h and uipc_mbuf.c so that I could see where all of the allocs and frees occur. I've looked through these files, and it's not immediately obvious to me just how I'd instrument them to do that (e.g., __FILE__ and __LINE__ obviously can't be used). For reference, I'm running 4.1.1-STABLE, cvsup'ed early on October 4th or late on October 3rd, and my NIC is a 3Com 3C905B. I've been seeing this problem for some time now, but it's gotten a lot worse recently, and I'm given to understand that it could be just about anywhere in the protocol stack, not necessarily in the xl driver. I am willing to do some work to debug this, but never having been a kernel hacker, I need a little bit of guidance. Help! My Linux-using co-workers are really giving me the business over this! Thanks, -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 4:55:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from weck.brokersys.com (weck.brokersys.com [206.180.156.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A62E37B66C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 04:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bert-09.brokersys.com (feline@bert-09.brokersys.com [206.180.156.73]) by weck.brokersys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA21107; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 06:55:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 06:55:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Wade X-Sender: feline@localhost.mydomain To: Hideki Shiomi Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <4.3.1-J.20001012100129.036b7e08@210.134.116.1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG send the message 'subscribe stable' to majordomo@freebsd.org to obtain a subscription to this list. Robert Wade On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Hideki Shiomi wrote: > subscribe freebsd-stable > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 5:21:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.iconnect.co.ke (host-209-198-248-3.interpacket.net [209.198.248.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE1937B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 05:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mentat.iconnect.co.ke ([212.22.161.102] helo=mentat ident=peter) by ns2.iconnect.co.ke with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13jhT0-000E8X-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:28:10 +0300 From: mPeter To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:19:44 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00101215200000.00522@mentat> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 6:45:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from logger.gamma.ru (logger.gamma.ru [194.186.254.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42A837B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 06:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ivt@localhost) by logger.gamma.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA28799; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:45:03 +0400 (MSD) From: Igor Timkin Message-Id: <200010121345.RAA28799@logger.gamma.ru> Subject: Re: adaptec 39160 In-Reply-To: <200010102054.e9AKsvZ00715@aslan.scsiguy.com> "from Justin T. Gibbs at Oct 10, 2000 08:54:57 pm" To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:45:02 +0400 (MSD) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL82 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >4.1.1-stable checked out today at 14.30 GMT: > >FreeBSD news.gamma.ru 4.1.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE #0: Wed Oct 11 18:56:1 > >9 MSD 2000 ivt@news.gamma.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/NEWS i386 > > > >Adaptec 39160 rev.2.57.2, matherboard is ASUS P/I-P65UP5/C-P6ND, 2xPPro200. > >During boot: > > I'm still looking into why the panic occurs, but the root of your > problem is that interrupts are not being properly routed to the > second function of the 39160. If you pop into your system bios > and set the IRQ routing to use the 8259 instead of I/O APICs, > it will probably work. That has been my experience with my PR440FX > motherboard with twin PPRO 200s. BIOS don't has such options. But whith today's kernel (second channel (ahc2) without devices) 3940 seems to work: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE #1: Thu Oct 12 15:55:16 MSD 2000 ivt@news.gamma.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/NEWS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium Pro (199.43-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping = 9 Features=0xfbff real memory = 536870912 (524288K bytes) avail memory = 519938048 (507752K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02a1000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 1.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xe800-0xe80f at device 1.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ahc0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xfa000000-0xfa000fff irq 19 at device 9.0 on pci0 aic7880: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xf9800000-0xf9800fff irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci0 aic7899: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc2: port 0xd400-0xd4ff mem 0xf9000000-0xf9000fff irq 9 at device 10.1 on pci0 aic7899: Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs fxp0: port 0xd000-0xd01f mem 0xf8800000-0xf88fffff,0xfb000000-0xfb000fff irq 17 at device 11.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:41:3d:89 ahc3: port 0xc800-0xc8ff mem 0xf8000000-0xf8000fff irq 16 at device 12.0 on pci0 aic7880: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ed0 at port 0x280-0x29f iomem 0xd8000-0xdbfff irq 5 on isa0 ed0: address 00:00:c0:a4:2e:61, type WD8013EPC (16 bit) APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to deny, logging disabled SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! ad0: 12416MB [25228/16/63] at ata0-master using WDMA2 Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle ahc2: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. SCB 0x8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x4 sg[0] - Addr 0x1f974284 : Length 36 (probe31:ahc2:0:1:0): SCB 8: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x6040 (probe31:ahc2:0:1:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 14 SCBs aborted ahc2: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. SCB 0x8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x3 sg[0] - Addr 0x1f95ce84 : Length 36 (probe33:ahc2:0:3:0): SCB 8: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x6040 (probe33:ahc2:0:3:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 13 SCBs aborted ahc2: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. SCB 0x8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x4 sg[0] - Addr 0x1f95ca84 : Length 36 (probe35:ahc2:0:5:0): SCB 8: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x6040 (probe35:ahc2:0:5:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 12 SCBs aborted ahc2: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. SCB 0x8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x3 sg[0] - Addr 0x1f95c684 : Length 36 (probe37:ahc2:0:8:0): SCB 8: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x6040 (probe37:ahc2:0:8:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 11 SCBs aborted ahc2: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. SCB 0x8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x3 sg[0] - Addr 0x1f95c284 : Length 36 (probe39:ahc2:0:10:0): SCB 8: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x6040 (probe39:ahc2:0:10:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 10 SCBs aborted ahc2: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. SCB 0x8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x4 sg[0] - Addr 0x1f9a4e84 : Length 36 (probe41:ahc2:0:12:0): SCB 8: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x6040 (probe41:ahc2:0:12:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 9 SCBs aborted ahc2: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. SCB 0x8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x4 sg[0] - Addr 0x1f9a4a84 : Length 36 (probe43:ahc2:0:14:0): SCB 8: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x6040 (probe43:ahc2:0:14:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 8 SCBs aborted ahc2: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. SCB 0x8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x4 sg[0] - Addr 0x1f974284 : Length 36 (probe31:ahc2:0:1:0): SCB 8: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x6040 (probe31:ahc2:0:1:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 7 SCBs aborted ahc2: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. SCB 0x8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x4 sg[0] - Addr 0x1f95ca84 : Length 36 (probe35:ahc2:0:5:0): SCB 8: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x6040 (probe35:ahc2:0:5:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 6 SCBs aborted ahc2: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. SCB 0x8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x3 sg[0] - Addr 0x1f95c284 : Length 36 (probe39:ahc2:0:10:0): SCB 8: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x6040 (probe39:ahc2:0:10:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 5 SCBs aborted ahc2: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. SCB 0x8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x4 sg[0] - Addr 0x1f9a4a84 : Length 36 (probe43:ahc2:0:14:0): SCB 8: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x6040 (probe43:ahc2:0:14:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 4 SCBs aborted ahc2: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. SCB 0x8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x4 sg[0] - Addr 0x1f95ca84 : Length 36 (probe35:ahc2:0:5:0): SCB 8: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x6040 (probe35:ahc2:0:5:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 3 SCBs aborted ahc2: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. SCB 0x8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x4 (probe43:ahc2:0:14:0): SCB 8: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x6040 (probe43:ahc2:0:14:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 2 SCBs aborted ahc2: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. SCB 0x8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x3 sg[0] - Addr 0x1f9a4a84 : Length 36 (probe43:ahc2:0:14:0): SCB 8: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x6040 (probe43:ahc2:0:14:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 1 SCBs aborted ahc2: Timedout SCB already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. da4 at ahc1 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da4: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da4: 35003MB (71687340 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4462C) da5 at ahc1 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da5: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da5: 35003MB (71687340 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4462C) da6 at ahc3 bus 0 target 11 lun 0 da6: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da6: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da6: 4091MB (8380080 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 521C) da7 at ahc3 bus 0 target 15 lun 0 da7: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da7: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da7: 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) da3 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da3: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da3: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 555C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) da2: 2077MB (4254819 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 264C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) da1: 2077MB (4254819 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 264C) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) da0: 4157MB (8515173 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 530C) vinum: loaded vinum: reading configuration from /dev/da2d vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da1d vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da0s1d To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 6:59:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52BB37B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 06:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4902E44B for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id e9CDxWt29187; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:59:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14821.50116.681271.850183@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:59:32 -0400 (EDT) To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: HowTo generate ssh_host_dsa_key key pairs In-Reply-To: <20001011221536.B35107@diskfarm.firehouse.net> References: <39E50C1A.FF9FFB55@esec.com.au> <39E513E4.7EE47315@urx.com> <20001011221536.B35107@diskfarm.firehouse.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "AC" == Alan Clegg writes: AC> Unless the network is lying to me again, Kent Stewart said: >> > By meragemaster on work PC for 4.1.1, I fixed the initial reboot up sshd >> > error (ie cannot find /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key). >> > AC> Look at /etc/rc.network. You will find: AC> if [ ! -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key ]; then AC> echo ' creating ssh DSA host key'; AC> /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -d -N "" -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key AC> fi Yes, but it would seem that his /etc/ssh/sshd_config file is defining the location as /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key rather than /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key like it should. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 7: 7: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cornflake.nickelkid.com (cornflake.nickelkid.com [216.116.135.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3A037B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jooji@localhost) by cornflake.nickelkid.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA86137 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:06:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jooji@cornflake.nickelkid.com) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:06:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jasper O'Malley" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Lockups on 4.1.1-STABLE after upgrade from 3.4 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I've got problems with a customer's firewall, running FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE (from sources cvsupped October 6 into an empty /usr/src) and IP Filter 3.4.10. The machine locks up solid once or twice a day, usually twice, at about the same times every day. When it locks up, it's simply frozen. No panics, no network connectivity, and the console freezes--no new messages, cannot send input from the keyboard, cannot switch virtual terminals. The only thing to do is hit the reset button or power cycle the box. I ran a full fsck on all filesystems on Monday (October 10), and didn't hit any errors. The machine is a Compaq Deskpro EN with an Intel P2-450, with 64MB of RAM. Not a whole lot of memory, but the swap never even gets touched. Firmware (BIOS) was upgraded on Monday, as well. The machine worked perfectly under 3.4-STABLE, otherwise I would have guessed bad hardware off the bat. It still could be a hardware issue, of course, but before the customer will start swapping out RAM and hard drives, I need to explore other possibilities. Here's the weird thing: its sister machine, another firewall elsewhere in the company, is running FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE without a single lockup. The only reason the working box wasn't initially running 4.1.1-STABLE is because I didn't have time to cvsup new sources after the CD-ROM upgrade of the box from 3.4. What I've done so far: 1) Stripped my kernel config down to the bare minimum, removing support of USB devices, as well (I don't use any), after hearing similar problems from other Compaq users which were solved by disabling USB support. 2) Disabled usbd and deleted the usb.ko from the /modules folder for good measure. What I'm going to do: 1) Cvsup today's sources, just to be sure. 2) Bump NMBCLUSTERS up to 4096 and try out a new kernel. 3) Upgrade IP Filter to 3.4.11. If this doesn't work, I'm going to have to backrev to 4.1-RELEASE, but I'd rather not do that if I don't have to. Anyone have any idea what else I can try? Cheers, Mick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 7:11: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aslan.scsiguy.com (aslan.scsiguy.com [63.229.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3834437B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aslan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.scsiguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9BEsu611412; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:54:57 GMT (envelope-from gibbs@aslan.scsiguy.com) Message-Id: <200010111454.e9BEsu611412@aslan.scsiguy.com> To: Igor Timkin Cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adaptec 39160 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:45:02 +0400." <200010121345.RAA28799@logger.gamma.ru> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:54:56 +0000 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >BIOS don't has such options. >But whith today's kernel (second channel (ahc2) without devices) >3940 seems to work: Yes, my commit last night was meant to protect the timeout handler from just such a problem. Unfortunately, the second channel is still not getting interrupts, but after the initial probe, the system will leave it alone, allowing you to still boot. Perhaps if you send mail to the SMP list with the output of "mptable -verbose -dmesg" someone there will know how to coax your system into working correctly. It may also be worth looking to see if a BIOS update is available for your system. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 7:13: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from martens.math.ntnu.no (martens.math.ntnu.no [129.241.15.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F4E937B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7421 invoked by uid 29119); 12 Oct 2000 14:12:57 -0000 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:12:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: Per Kristian Hove X-Sender: perhov@martens.math.ntnu.no To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: cvsup.no.FreeBSD.org downtime Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cvsup.no.FreeBSD.org will be down for approx. 15 minutes somewhere between 10:00 UTC to 10:30 UTC tomorrow (2000-10-13) due to network equipment upgrades. -- Per Kristian Hove Principal engineer Dept. of Mathematical Sciences Norwegian University of Science and Technology To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 7:18: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACEE37B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 13jjBG-000EjY-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:17:58 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA41031 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:17:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:17:58 +0100 From: Rasputin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange net errors: how can I trace it? Message-ID: <20001012151758.A41011@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from flaggaccio@libero.it on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:25:50AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:25:50AM +0200, flaggaccio@libero.it wrote: > > > Does that mean it has an ESP UART chip? If so try adding: > > options COM_ESP > > to your kernel and recompiling. > > What mean this???? > > The name of my modem is "Communicator 56k ESP-2", but I don't think that > this apply to th UART (which is the serail-chip inside the motherboard). > > Anyway, I'll try this solution. > > Thanks. =) > > Paolo > If that doesn't work, it sounds like a bad ISP. Is it the same on other OSes? If so, change provider. -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 7:19: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prg.traveller.cz (prg.traveller.cz [193.85.2.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6246337B66D for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prg.traveller.cz (prg.traveller.cz [193.85.2.2]) by prg.traveller.cz (8.9.3[EUnet-CZ](2)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27868 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:18:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:18:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Michal Mertl To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: specifiing source address doesn't work in 4.1.1 (at least) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For testing purposed I was sometimes using 'telnet -s'. In recent versions (4.1.1 and stable) it stopped working Environment: host# ifconfig fxp0 fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 ether 00:08:c7:49:16:4c media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP host# telnet -s 192.168.0.3 192.168.0.2 Trying 192.168.0.2... bind: Can't assign requested address Am I missing something? -- Michal Mertl mime@traveller.cz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 7:30:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C79C37B66C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539892E44D; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:30:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id e9CEUZu85558; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:30:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14821.51979.221651.813178@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:30:35 -0400 (EDT) To: Tomasz Paszkowski Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Broken nfs client In-Reply-To: <20001012124449.A27025@genesis.k.pl> References: <20001012124449.A27025@genesis.k.pl> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "TP" == Tomasz Paszkowski writes: TP> I have 4.1.1-STABLE from 20001007, before the upgrade evrything works TP> fine. Now I'am reciving a hundreds of information: TP> nfs server not responding TP> nfs server is alive again I started getting these recently as well. My workstation tends to just lock up for a few minutes then resume where it left off. I can run many things that don't require my home directory during these times (home dir is NFS mounted), and tcpdump shows some traffic to the ethernet. Netstat shows nothing blocked for send/receive most of the time this happens. After a while, I see a big flurry of NFS traffic, and then it just continues like nothing is wrong. I can ping the NFS server but have severe packet loss, and nslookups using that same machine as the DNS server don't respond. The only error logged is nfs server not responding. It only seems to happen when I'm doing something big like make buildworld or "make readmes" in /usr/ports. The buildworld uses the NFS server for /usr/obj, but /usr/ports is totally local to this machine, which makes it confusing that NFS would be involved. If the machine is just running XEmacs and other desktop crud, it never has the NFS server problems. I never had this problem prior to recent 4.1-S builds (about two weeks). -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 7:33:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553F237B66C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9CEWZm39972; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:32:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:32:35 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Michal Mertl Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: specifiing source address doesn't work in 4.1.1 (at least) Message-ID: <20001012173234.A35708@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Michal Mertl , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mime@traveller.cz on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 04:18:55PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 04:18:55PM +0200, Michal Mertl wrote: > For testing purposed I was sometimes using 'telnet -s'. > > In recent versions (4.1.1 and stable) it stopped working > > Environment: > host# ifconfig fxp0 > fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > ether 00:08:c7:49:16:4c > media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active > supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX > 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP > > host# telnet -s 192.168.0.3 192.168.0.2 > Trying 192.168.0.2... > bind: Can't assign requested address > > Am I missing something? > Yes, only one of your host's IP addresses may be used as argument to -s. Otherwise, bind(2) will fail. -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 7:34:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5805F37B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9CEYlL38286; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001012102821.04a18c10@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:30:04 -0400 To: Michal Mertl , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: specifiing source address doesn't work in 4.1.1 (at least) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:18 PM 10/12/00 +0200, Michal Mertl wrote: >For testing purposed I was sometimes using 'telnet -s'. > >In recent versions (4.1.1 and stable) it stopped working > >Environment: >host# ifconfig fxp0 >fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > ether 00:08:c7:49:16:4c > media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active > supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX >10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP > >host# telnet -s 192.168.0.3 192.168.0.2 >Trying 192.168.0.2... >bind: Can't assign requested address But that is not your IP address. Your source address is .2, and you are saying telnet to .2 from .3. Your machine does not seem to know anything about .3, so how can it use it as a source IP ? If you did ifconfig fxp0 172.16.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 alias you could then do telnet -s 172.16.0.1 192.168.0.2 ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 7:38:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uemsconnsp1.cpf.navy.mil (oban-nat-1.cpf.navy.mil [199.124.14.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F35837B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by u661-serv-1-host-257.cpf.navy.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4NNQVDNT>; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 04:38:26 -1000 Message-ID: From: "Kuriyama, Kent K Mr (CPF N651KK)" To: behanna@zbzoom.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 04:38:23 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris, Your email prompted me to look at mbuf utilization on a 4.1.1-STABLE box that is currently not in production. outside# netstat -m 130/160/7168 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): 129 mbufs allocated to data 1 mbufs allocated to packet headers 128/136/1792 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 312 Kbytes allocated to network (92% in use) ^^^^^^^^^^ 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines outside# uptime 4:32AM up 1 day, 14:01, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 I don't know whether to be concerned about the 92% utilization since the number of bytes allocated seems low. The machine has never crashed but then it has never served as a server. Is this kind of mbuf utilization expected? Kent Kuriyama SPAWAR Sys Ctr San Diego D424, CINCPACFLT N671KK kuriyakk@cpf.navy.mil, 808-471-4125 -----Original Message----- From: Chris BeHanna [mailto:behanna@zbzoom.net] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 01:15 AM To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE I posted a week or two ago about my machine wedging every couple of days, and seeing RX packet drop messages due to no memory available in /var/log/messages. Specifically, the messages were "dhclient: send_packet: No buffer space available /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped!" repeated thousands of times. Sean O'Connell pointed me in the right direction, stating that this looked like an mbuf starvation problem. I've been checking my system constantly via netstat -m, and it looks like I'm leaking mbufs (mbufs in use and mbuf clusters in use increase until they hit their limit, then the machine freezes, waiting, I suppose, for an mbuf to become available). I've taken an interim measure of doubling the number of NMBCLUSTERS in my kernel, but that just puts off the inevitable. I end up rebooting when I'm at 80% mbuf cluster usage, so that I can avoid having to fsck my disks when the machine wedges and I have to hit the button. A friend of mine suggested that I instrument mbuf.h and uipc_mbuf.c so that I could see where all of the allocs and frees occur. I've looked through these files, and it's not immediately obvious to me just how I'd instrument them to do that (e.g., __FILE__ and __LINE__ obviously can't be used). For reference, I'm running 4.1.1-STABLE, cvsup'ed early on October 4th or late on October 3rd, and my NIC is a 3Com 3C905B. I've been seeing this problem for some time now, but it's gotten a lot worse recently, and I'm given to understand that it could be just about anywhere in the protocol stack, not necessarily in the xl driver. I am willing to do some work to debug this, but never having been a kernel hacker, I need a little bit of guidance. Help! My Linux-using co-workers are really giving me the business over this! Thanks, -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 7:45:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A97D437B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12387 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Oct 2000 14:45:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Oct 2000 14:45:23 -0000 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:45:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: "Kuriyama, Kent K Mr (CPF N651KK)" Cc: behanna@zbzoom.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I thought I would through this into the mix: Server, NOT in production yet: 4.1.1-RELEASE: matt[beta]:~> uptime;netstat -m 10:40AM up 16 days, 1:42, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 132/352/131072 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): 130 mbufs allocated to data 2 mbufs allocated to packet headers 128/316/32768 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 720 Kbytes allocated to network (40% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines Heavy Use Workstation, 4.1.1-RELEASE: 10:42AM up 16 days, 49 mins, 9 users, load averages: 0.28, 0.20, 0.17 693/1712/131072 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): 132 mbufs allocated to data 561 mbufs allocated to packet headers 131/1410/32768 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 3248 Kbytes allocated to network (13% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines So what you're showing below looks pretty normal. Note: I KNOW that I have a small leak on epsilon. It's from wmbiff, which holds up descriptors like you would believe. Gotta shut it down every couple of weeks to clear it out, it's quite funny. Just to give a roug idea: root[epsilon]:~# lsof -p 98037 | wc -l 3225 Oh well. :) On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Kuriyama, Kent K Mr (CPF N651KK) wrote: : Chris, : : Your email prompted me to look at mbuf utilization on a 4.1.1-STABLE box : that is currently not in production. : : outside# netstat -m : 130/160/7168 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): : 129 mbufs allocated to data : 1 mbufs allocated to packet headers : 128/136/1792 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) : 312 Kbytes allocated to network (92% in use) : ^^^^^^^^^^ : 0 requests for memory denied : 0 requests for memory delayed : 0 calls to protocol drain routines : outside# uptime : 4:32AM up 1 day, 14:01, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 : : I don't know whether to be concerned about the 92% utilization since the : number of bytes allocated seems low. The machine has never crashed but then : it has never served as a server. : : Is this kind of mbuf utilization expected? : : Kent Kuriyama : SPAWAR Sys Ctr San Diego D424, CINCPACFLT N671KK : kuriyakk@cpf.navy.mil, 808-471-4125 * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE55c6DdMMtMcA1U5ARArwgAKCS4RiGBzFXwcwQN6TD5yUsVrt6QQCgrt/8 YFTb8kW6FEArAv0N9qS0FZ0= =kZM5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 8: 4: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from survis.surfnet.nl (survis.surfnet.nl [192.87.108.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD62B37B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spock.ncc-1701.surfnet.nl ([192.87.111.34]) by survis.surfnet.nl with ESMTP (exPP) for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org id 13jjts-0002zK-00; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:04:04 +0200 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:05:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl X-Sender: rvdp@spock.ncc-1701.surfnet.nl To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: how to upgrade from 4.0 to 4.1 (not 4.1.1) with cvsup? Message-ID: Organisation: SURFnet bv Address: "Radboudburcht, P.O. Box 19035, 3501 DA Utrecht, NL" Phone: +31 302 305 305 Telefax: +31 302 305 329 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What tag should I use to upgrade from 4.0 to 4.1 (not 4.1.1, because I also run KAME)? I have tried RELENG_4_1_0, but that gives a partial source tree. 4_1_0_RELEASE only gives a file in /usr/sup/src-all. rvdp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 8:10:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.salford.ac.uk (pan.salford.ac.uk [146.87.255.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8053137B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2340 invoked by alias); 12 Oct 2000 15:10:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 2334 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2000 15:10:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO plato.salford.ac.uk) (146.87.255.76) by pan.salford.ac.uk with SMTP; 12 Oct 2000 15:10:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 65883 invoked by uid 141); 12 Oct 2000 15:10:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Oct 2000 15:10:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:10:12 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Powell To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PERC2 RAID support in 4.1-STABLE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > There are two entirely different RAID controller families that are > relabelled as "PERC 2". See > http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/index.html#ami > and > http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/index.html#adaptec > > for more details. Do you know which AMI controllers the two compatible PERCs are based on. From the specs it would seem the 2/SC is an AMI Express 200 and the 2/DC is an AMI Enterprise 1500. Is that right? Cheers. Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - The University of Salford Academic Information Services, Clifford Whitworth Building, Salford University, Manchester, M5 4WT, UK. Tel: +44 161 295 5936 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 8:16: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scully.zoominternet.net (scully.zoominternet.net [63.67.120.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D812A37B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27286 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2000 15:15:58 -0000 Received: from acs-24-154-28-99.zoominternet.net (HELO topperwein.dyndns.org) (24.154.28.99) by scully.zoominternet.net with SMTP; 12 Oct 2000 15:15:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9CFG7801405 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:16:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:16:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: RE: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Matt Heckaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I thought I would through this into the mix: > > Server, NOT in production yet: 4.1.1-RELEASE: > > matt[beta]:~> uptime;netstat -m > 10:40AM up 16 days, 1:42, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > 132/352/131072 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 130 mbufs allocated to data > 2 mbufs allocated to packet headers > 128/316/32768 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 720 Kbytes allocated to network (40% in use) > 0 requests for memory denied > 0 requests for memory delayed > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > Heavy Use Workstation, 4.1.1-RELEASE: > > 10:42AM up 16 days, 49 mins, 9 users, load averages: 0.28, 0.20, 0.17 > 693/1712/131072 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 132 mbufs allocated to data > 561 mbufs allocated to packet headers > 131/1410/32768 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 3248 Kbytes allocated to network (13% in use) > 0 requests for memory denied > 0 requests for memory delayed > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > So what you're showing below looks pretty normal. Note: I KNOW that I have > a small leak on epsilon. It's from wmbiff, which holds up descriptors like > you would believe. Gotta shut it down every couple of weeks to clear it > out, it's quite funny. Just to give a roug idea: > > root[epsilon]:~# lsof -p 98037 | wc -l > 3225 behanna@topperwein> netstat -m 211/272/8192 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): 181 mbufs allocated to data 30 mbufs allocated to packet headers 175/182/2048 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 432 Kbytes allocated to network (93% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines behanna@topperwein> uptime 11:11AM up 4:42, 6 users, load averages: 0.06, 0.02, 0.00 This is a box sitting on the end of a cable modem in my basement office. it doesn't see a large network load, although I'm blocking about 900 spam attempts per day (the same two bozos with forged addresses keep retrying every five minutes, and I keep 550-ing them. Now, it could be that my ISP is retrying to send these messages, which wouldn't surprise me :-( ). By tonight, I expect to see around 500 mbuf clusters in use, and a comparable number of mbufs in use. By late tomorrow, it will be time to reboot. :-( -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 8:21: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.inwind.it (relay2.inwind.it [212.141.53.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801CA37B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bartequi.ottodomain.org (62.98.152.30) by relay2.inwind.it (5.1.046) id 39CB09790041BF27; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:20:25 +0200 From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:21:32 GMT Message-ID: <20001012.16213200@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Subject: Re: how to upgrade from 4.0 to 4.1 (not 4.1.1) with cvsup? To: Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: SuperCalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 10/12/00, 4:05:05 PM, Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl wrote regarding=20 how to upgrade from 4.0 to 4.1 (not 4.1.1) with cvsup?: > What tag should I use to upgrade from 4.0 to 4.1 (not 4.1.1, because I= > also run KAME)? I have tried RELENG_4_1_0, but that gives a partial > source tree. 4_1_0_RELEASE only gives a file in /usr/sup/src-all. > rvdp Dear Ronald van der Pol, You can easily see in a "fancy" fashion (ie by means of a web browser)=20 which tags are in use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi=20 Also, if you look at the handbook (The Cutting Edge(tm), subsection=20 Cvsup), you will be able to guess the right tag. Best of luck (and, if I may say so, best of fun), Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 8:25:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B2437B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9CFOrL55089; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001012111508.05f2c0b0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:20:01 -0400 To: Mark Powell , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: PERC2 RAID support in 4.1-STABLE In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dont know how many different revisions there are, but I picked up a used PERC/2 which seems to correspond to the 466. ---Mike At 04:10 PM 10/12/00 +0100, Mark Powell wrote: > > There are two entirely different RAID controller families that are > > relabelled as "PERC 2". See > > http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/index.html#ami > > and > > http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/index.html#adaptec > > > > for more details. > >Do you know which AMI controllers the two compatible PERCs are based on. > From the specs it would seem the 2/SC is an AMI Express 200 and the 2/DC >is an AMI Enterprise 1500. Is that right? > Cheers. > >Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - The University of Salford >Academic Information Services, Clifford Whitworth Building, >Salford University, Manchester, M5 4WT, UK. >Tel: +44 161 295 5936 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 8:32:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from logger.gamma.ru (logger.gamma.ru [194.186.254.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7143037B66D for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ivt@localhost) by logger.gamma.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29527; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:32:22 +0400 (MSD) From: Igor Timkin Message-Id: <200010121532.TAA29527@logger.gamma.ru> Subject: Re: adaptec 39160 In-Reply-To: <200010111454.e9BEsu611412@aslan.scsiguy.com> "from Justin T. Gibbs at Oct 11, 2000 02:54:56 pm" To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:32:22 +0400 (MSD) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL82 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >BIOS don't has such options. > >But whith today's kernel (second channel (ahc2) without devices) > >3940 seems to work: > > Yes, my commit last night was meant to protect the timeout handler > from just such a problem. Unfortunately, the second channel is still > not getting interrupts, but after the initial probe, the system will > leave it alone, allowing you to still boot. > > Perhaps if you send mail to the SMP list with the output of > "mptable -verbose -dmesg" someone there will know how to coax > your system into working correctly. It may also be worth looking > to see if a BIOS update is available for your system. After BIOS upgrade (to rev 2.18) the problem is solved. Thank you ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 9:31:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magpage.com (trinity.magpage.com [216.155.0.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A5B37B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magpage.com (poomba.magpage.com [216.155.24.136]) by magpage.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04996 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:31:41 GMT Message-ID: <39E5E76D.D223020@magpage.com> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:31:41 -0400 From: Daniel Frazier Organization: Magpage Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: is it safe to start cvsupping ports yet? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I may have missed the all clear... also, do I need to do anything out of the ordinary in order to account for the changes, or can I just uncomment the cron job I had commented out when I saw the heads up? I apologize if this isn't the right list, but I figured you guys would be on top of this... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Frazier Tel: 302-239-5900 Ext. 231 System Administrator Fax: 302-239-3909 MAGPAGE, We Power the Internet WWW: http://www.magpage.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 9:41:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from giganda.komkon.org (giganda.komkon.org [209.125.17.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7D237B677 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from str@localhost) by giganda.komkon.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25643 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:41:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from str) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:41:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Igor Roshchin Message-Id: <200010121641.MAA25643@giganda.komkon.org> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: sendmail.8.11.1 ? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I wonder if there are any plans or work in progress to port sendmail 8.11.1 from -current to -stable ? Both, 3-stable and 4- stable have 8.9.3.1 The sendmail that is present in the -current tree seems to compile smoothly on 4.x (even on 4.0-RELEASE box), while breaks on 3.5.1-RELEASE due to the absence of IP6 support there. (There might be some other reasons as well) Thanks, Igor PS. when responding, please, keep my address in Cc:. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 9:43:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from router.atom.ru (atomnet.rmt.ru [194.67.161.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3AC37B66C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from laa@localhost) by router.atom.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA50036; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:43:18 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:43:18 +0400 From: "Alexandr A. Listopad" To: Igor Roshchin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail.8.11.1 ? Message-ID: <20001012204318.A50000@atom.ru> References: <200010121641.MAA25643@giganda.komkon.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200010121641.MAA25643@giganda.komkon.org>; from str@giganda.komkon.org on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 12:41:10PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 12:41:10PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > Hello! > > I wonder if there are any plans or work in progress to > port sendmail 8.11.1 from -current to -stable ? > Both, 3-stable and 4- stable have 8.9.3.1 > > The sendmail that is present in the -current tree seems to compile > smoothly on 4.x (even on 4.0-RELEASE box), while > breaks on 3.5.1-RELEASE due to the absence of IP6 support there. > (There might be some other reasons as well) > > > Thanks, > > Igor > > PS. when responding, please, keep my address in Cc:. sendmail 8.11.1 already MFCed to STABLE branch -- Laa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 9:44:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA33537B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.11.2.PreAlpha0/8.11.2.PreAlpha0) id e9CGiSV35954; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:44:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14821.60012.426225.913463@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:44:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Igor Roshchin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail.8.11.1 ? In-Reply-To: <200010121641.MAA25643@giganda.komkon.org> References: <200010121641.MAA25643@giganda.komkon.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.2 (beta36) "Notus" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG str> I wonder if there are any plans or work in progress to str> port sendmail 8.11.1 from -current to -stable ? str> Both, 3-stable and 4- stable have 8.9.3.1 No, 4-STABLE has 8.11.0. 8.11.1 was imported into -CURRENT less than a week ago. It must have time to settle before being MFC'ed into -STABLE. It will not be MFC'ed into 3.X. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 9:46:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271FF37B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.11.2.PreAlpha0/8.11.2.PreAlpha0) id e9CGk6s35984; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:46:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14821.60110.768313.961061@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:46:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: "Alexandr A. Listopad" Cc: Igor Roshchin , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail.8.11.1 ? In-Reply-To: <20001012204318.A50000@atom.ru> References: <200010121641.MAA25643@giganda.komkon.org> <20001012204318.A50000@atom.ru> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.2 (beta36) "Notus" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG laa> sendmail 8.11.1 already MFCed to STABLE branch Oops, sorry about my last answer. Alexandr is correct. I was referring to the enhancements that went in for using 8.11.1 (STARTTLS, vacation, cf, mail.local, etc). Those will be MFC'ed once things settle down. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 9:47:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5026E37B66C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6C22E44D for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:47:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id e9CGlL184913; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:47:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14821.60184.972998.16621@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:47:20 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail.8.11.1 ? In-Reply-To: <14821.60012.426225.913463@horsey.gshapiro.net> References: <200010121641.MAA25643@giganda.komkon.org> <14821.60012.426225.913463@horsey.gshapiro.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "GNS" == Gregory Neil Shapiro writes: str> I wonder if there are any plans or work in progress to str> port sendmail 8.11.1 from -current to -stable ? str> Both, 3-stable and 4- stable have 8.9.3.1 GNS> No, 4-STABLE has 8.11.0. 8.11.1 was imported into -CURRENT less than a GNS> week ago. It must have time to settle before being MFC'ed into -STABLE. GNS> It will not be MFC'ed into 3.X. Funny, my 4.1.1-S build yesterday had sendmail 8.11.1 in it. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 9:47:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.libero.it (smtp4.libero.it [193.70.192.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F53437B66C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newluxor (151.33.117.84) by smtp4.libero.it; 12 Oct 2000 18:47:14 +0200 Received: from localhost (flag@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by NewLuxor (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9CGkJD01216; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:46:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from flag@libero.it) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:46:19 +0200 (CEST) From: flag X-Sender: flag@NewLuxor To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: andrew@ugh.net.au Subject: Re: Strange net errors: how can I trace it? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, flaggaccio@libero.it wrote: > > Have you tried turning off TCP extensions? > > The TCP extentions are turned off yet. I reply to myself: the TCP extensions are turned off now, but the problem strikes again. Any other idea??? Paolo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 9:49:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.libero.it (smtp1.libero.it [193.70.192.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEED737B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newluxor (151.33.117.84) by smtp1.libero.it; 12 Oct 2000 18:49:15 +0200 Received: from localhost (flag@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by NewLuxor (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9CGmUD01221; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:48:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from flag@libero.it) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:48:30 +0200 (CEST) From: flag X-Sender: flag@NewLuxor To: Rasputin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange net errors: how can I trace it? In-Reply-To: <20001012151758.A41011@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Rasputin wrote: > If that doesn't work, it sounds like a bad ISP. > Is it the same on other OSes? If so, change provider. This ISP/connection works VERY well under: Windows, Linux, BeOS, QNX, and so on....it shows odd things only when I use FreeBSD..=P But I like FreeBSD so I'm trying to catch the problem...=) Paolo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 9:49:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9683437B502; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e9CGnFL07132; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:49:15 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable , wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG, "Kuriyama, Kent K Mr (CPF N651KK)" Subject: xl driver again? Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE Message-ID: <20001012094914.F272@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from behanna@zbzoom.net on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 11:16:07AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [snip about possible mbuf leakage/starvation] Can we get a cocensus about which ethernet card is in use here? I've got several machines running fxp (intel etherexpress 100) running under high loads without a single problem. I have a single host with 'xl' that seems to be having the _exact_ same symptoms as you guys are describing: Oct 9 15:24:38 xxx /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped! Oct 9 15:25:10 xxx last message repeated 102 times Oct 9 15:27:11 xxx last message repeated 473 times Oct 9 15:30:08 xxx last message repeated 772 times ~ % netstat -m 131/4864 mbufs in use: 129 mbufs allocated to data 2 mbufs allocated to packet headers 128/4608/4608 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 9824 Kbytes allocated to network (2% in use) 1400 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines This leads me to believe that the driver is somehow tying down all the mbufs for an extended period of time. If this problem still hasn't been addressed in 4.1.1 it should be of concern as 'xl' is supposed to be only second to 'fxp' in terms of quality and speed. The machine will recover after several minutes (without reboot), but it's down long enough to trip our monitoring software that does HTTP requests to the box. I'll also note that the problem seems to be quite interesting as I'm having nearly the exact same thing happen to me, basically the card is fine for 2-3 days after reboot, then *BOOM* I run out of mbufs, however mine does recover after a couple of minutes. This problem has plagued the xl driver for nearly two years, If there's anything I can do to help diagnose where the problem is I'll be the first to try to provide any information requested. xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x00 int a irq 12 on pci0.15.0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:4b:36:df:74 xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (full-duplex, 100Mbps) Thanks for any assistance, I sure need it. :( My solution so far has been to only get the fxp cards and replace any xl's that I come across. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 9:53: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D05D37B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 867F41360E; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:52:57 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Igor Roshchin Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail.8.11.1 ? Message-ID: <20001012125257.B31321@peitho.fxp.org> References: <200010121641.MAA25643@giganda.komkon.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010121641.MAA25643@giganda.komkon.org>; from str@giganda.komkon.org on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 12:41:10PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 12:41:10PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > Hello! > > I wonder if there are any plans or work in progress to > port sendmail 8.11.1 from -current to -stable ? > Both, 3-stable and 4- stable have 8.9.3.1 > 8.11.1 was imported to RELENG_4 on Tue Oct 10 05:07:15 2000 UTC. 8.11.0 was imported to RELENG_4 on Sun Aug 27 17:30:58 2000 UTC. -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 9:59: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scully.zoominternet.net (scully.zoominternet.net [63.67.120.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C8BF37B66C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26944 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2000 16:59:01 -0000 Received: from acs-24-154-28-99.zoominternet.net (HELO topperwein.dyndns.org) (24.154.28.99) by scully.zoominternet.net with SMTP; 12 Oct 2000 16:59:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9CGxB801784 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:59:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:59:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: xl driver again? Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE In-Reply-To: <20001012094914.F272@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > [snip about possible mbuf leakage/starvation] > > Can we get a cocensus about which ethernet card is in use here? 3Com 3C905B (xl) in my case. > I've got several machines running fxp (intel etherexpress 100) > running under high loads without a single problem. I have a single > host with 'xl' that seems to be having the _exact_ same symptoms > as you guys are describing: > > Oct 9 15:24:38 xxx /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped! > Oct 9 15:25:10 xxx last message repeated 102 times > Oct 9 15:27:11 xxx last message repeated 473 times > Oct 9 15:30:08 xxx last message repeated 772 times Yes, this is exactly the problem I get. > ~ % netstat -m > 131/4864 mbufs in use: > 129 mbufs allocated to data > 2 mbufs allocated to packet headers > 128/4608/4608 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 9824 Kbytes allocated to network (2% in use) > 1400 requests for memory denied > 0 requests for memory delayed > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > This leads me to believe that the driver is somehow tying down all > the mbufs for an extended period of time. If this problem still > hasn't been addressed in 4.1.1 it should be of concern as 'xl' is > supposed to be only second to 'fxp' in terms of quality and speed. > > The machine will recover after several minutes (without reboot), > but it's down long enough to trip our monitoring software that does > HTTP requests to the box. I haven't let mine sit to try to recover. I notice that I get no response at the console, and push the button. Next time, I'll let it sit awhile and see if it gets better. > I'll also note that the problem seems to be quite interesting as > I'm having nearly the exact same thing happen to me, basically the > card is fine for 2-3 days after reboot, then *BOOM* I run out of > mbufs, however mine does recover after a couple of minutes. Yup. > This problem has plagued the xl driver for nearly two years, If > there's anything I can do to help diagnose where the problem is > I'll be the first to try to provide any information requested. Ditto. I can report that I've seen this problem both with my custom kernel and with GENERIC (although I'll admit that I added IPFIREWALL to GENERIC for my particular test). > xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x00 int a irq 12 on pci0.15.0 > xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:4b:36:df:74 > xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (full-duplex, 100Mbps) Exact came card I have. > Thanks for any assistance, I sure need it. :( > > My solution so far has been to only get the fxp cards and replace > any xl's that I come across. I'm picking up a Netgear FA310TX (should be delivered any day now). At $20, it's cheap enough to see if it works any better for me. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 9:59:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.libero.it (smtp3.libero.it [193.70.192.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D6037B66E for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newluxor (151.33.117.84) by smtp3.libero.it; 12 Oct 2000 18:59:01 +0200 Received: from localhost (flag@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by NewLuxor (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9CGwHD01251 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:58:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from flag@libero.it) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:58:17 +0200 (CEST) From: flag X-Sender: flag@NewLuxor To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange net errors: how can I trace it? In-Reply-To: <20001012151758.A41011@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Other info for you. This my log when I connect to my ISP, note the errors in the HDLC: [snip] Oct 12 18:27:47 NewLuxor ppp[215]: tun0: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 195.210.91.100 Oct 12 18:27:47 NewLuxor ppp[215]: tun0: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 195.210.91.1 Oct 12 18:27:47 NewLuxor ppp[215]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(3) state = Ack-Sent Oct 12 18:27:47 NewLuxor ppp[215]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change Ack-Sent -- > Opened Oct 12 18:27:47 NewLuxor ppp[215]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: LayerUp. Oct 12 18:27:47 NewLuxor ppp[215]: tun0: IPCP: myaddr 151.33.117.84 hisaddr = 10 .10.10.1 Oct 12 18:28:48 NewLuxor ppp[215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: HDLC errors -> FCS: 2, ADDR: 0, COMD: 0, PROTO: 0 If you want I can post the entire log of a typical connecton. At the time of writing, the site x.mame.net is unreachable by Netscape, but the site is visible under Windows and under FreeBSD I get this: [flag@NewLuxor flag]$traceroute x.mame.net traceroute to x.mame.net (63.211.17.226), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 10.10.10.1 (10.10.10.1) 128.801 ms 129.448 ms 119.771 ms 2 151.5.64.1 (151.5.64.1) 129.501 ms 129.440 ms 127.211 ms 3 151.5.64.65 (151.5.64.65) 129.577 ms 119.563 ms 129.524 ms 4 151.5.207.45 (151.5.207.45) 129.626 ms 129.531 ms 119.619 ms 5 192.106.7.164 (192.106.7.164) 129.754 ms 129.533 ms 119.623 ms 6 kar-145-253-8-225.arcor-ip.net (145.253.8.225) 139.736 ms 129.426 ms 129.537 ms 7 kar-145-253-0-240.arcor-ip.net (145.253.0.240) 139.813 ms 129.383 ms 139.818 ms 8 ffm-145-253-0-128.arcor-ip.net (145.253.0.128) 789.559 ms 219.545 ms 449.660 ms 9 nyc-145-253-4-142.arcor-ip.net (145.253.4.142) 219.605 ms 219.438 ms 219.589 ms 10 s7-0-4.nycmny1-cr2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.153.125) 969.637 ms 979.486 ms 989.671 ms 11 p3-0.nycmny1-ba2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.7.5) 989.566 ms 969.463 ms 989.730 ms 12 p7-0.nycmny1-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.6.233) 979.579 ms 979.417 ms 989.715 ms 13 p4-0.nycmny1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.6.225) 1009.711 ms 1009.444 ms 1019.778 ms 14 so-4-0-0.washdc3-nbr1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.6.57) 999.474 ms 1039.511 ms 1029.879 ms 15 p7-0.washdc3-ba1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.4.170) 1039.299 ms 1219.542 ms 1009.626 ms 16 p1-0.washdc3-ba2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.4.102) 999.576 ms 949.503 ms 949.582 ms 17 pos2-1.core2.Washington1.Level3.net (209.0.227.101) 249.628 ms 249.412 ms 249.718 ms 18 so-6-0-0.mp1.Washington1.level3.net (209.247.10.69) 249.589 ms * 279.895 ms 19 loopback1.hsipaccess2.Detroit1.Level3.net (209.244.2.13) 279.559 ms 279.387 ms 279.678 ms 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * 27 * * * 28 * * * 29 * * * 30 * * * You have mail in /var/mail/flag [flag@NewLuxor flag]$ BUT IT WORKS UNDER WINDOWS!!!!! ARRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! =) Paolo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 10: 9:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E64A37B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e9CH9q807794; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:09:52 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: xl driver again? Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE Message-ID: <20001012100951.I272@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20001012094914.F272@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from behanna@zbzoom.net on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 12:59:11PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please stop trimming the cc's for no reason! I purposefully cc'd the guy who wrote the xl driver (Bill Paul ), the point is to engage several people in this discussion and now he didn't see your reply that we're having the same problem. Please take the time to resend your reply to him privately so he knows that this is happening to several people. * Chris BeHanna [001012 10:00] wrote: > > > My solution so far has been to only get the fxp cards and replace > > any xl's that I come across. > > I'm picking up a Netgear FA310TX (should be delivered any day > now). At $20, it's cheap enough to see if it works any better for me. So you think a 20$ network card is going to be better? *snicker* shell out the cash and get an Intel card, it's worth it, they can do full 100mbit and hardly use any CPU. and here's what the Driver author has to say about rl0 (nettear): /* * The RealTek 8139 PCI NIC redefines the meaning of 'low end.' This is * probably the worst PCI ethernet controller ever made, with the possible * exception of the FEAST chip made by SMC. The 8139 supports bus-master * DMA, but it has a terrible interface that nullifies any performance * gains that bus-master DMA usually offers. ... Have fun with it! :) -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 10:15:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diskfarm.firehouse.net (rdu25-12-043.nc.rr.com [24.25.12.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7160037B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from abc@localhost) by diskfarm.firehouse.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9CHII146428; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:18:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from abc) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:18:18 -0400 From: Alan Clegg To: Vivek Khera Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: HowTo generate ssh_host_dsa_key key pairs Message-ID: <20001012131818.M37507@diskfarm.firehouse.net> References: <39E50C1A.FF9FFB55@esec.com.au> <39E513E4.7EE47315@urx.com> <20001011221536.B35107@diskfarm.firehouse.net> <14821.50116.681271.850183@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <14821.50116.681271.850183@onceler.kciLink.com>; from khera@kciLink.com on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:59:32AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Unless the network is lying to me again, Vivek Khera said: > AC> if [ ! -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key ]; then > AC> echo ' creating ssh DSA host key'; > AC> /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -d -N "" -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key > AC> fi > > Yes, but it would seem that his /etc/ssh/sshd_config file is defining > the location as /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key rather than > /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key like it should. This smells like an issue with an upgraded system that has mis-matched versions of OpenSSL/OpenSSH. 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Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 10:28:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C6E37B66C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9CHS6i25020; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:28:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA68332; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:28:06 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010121728.LAA68332@harmony.village.org> To: Alfred Perlstein Subject: Re: xl driver again? Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE Cc: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:09:52 PDT." <20001012100951.I272@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20001012100951.I272@fw.wintelcom.net> <20001012094914.F272@fw.wintelcom.net> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:28:06 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20001012100951.I272@fw.wintelcom.net> Alfred Perlstein writes: : shell out the cash and get an Intel card, it's worth it, they can do : full 100mbit and hardly use any CPU. I've been able to find used intel fxp cards on ebay for $20.00 from time to time. I suspect they work better than the realtek cards for $20 :-). I've found some pnic cards locally in an odd formfactor (nlx) for $9.00 and they work great for $9.00, but they are no fxp (see man 4 dc and look for 82c169 PNIC if you want to know why). Also, it hurts having to run them w/o the mounting metal, but for $9.00, I won't complain. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 10:42:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id C471737B502; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: xl driver again? Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE In-Reply-To: <20001012094914.F272@fw.wintelcom.net> from Alfred Perlstein at "Oct 12, 2000 09:49:15 am" To: bright@wintelcom.net (Alfred Perlstein) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Cc: behanna@zbzoom.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, KuriyaKK@cpf.navy.mil X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20001012174230.C471737B502@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The xl driver never holds more than 128 mbuf clusters in the receive ring. Whenever a new packet comes in, it sends one of the mbufs out and replaces it with a new one. IT DOESN'T HOLD ONTO THEM. It will however complain if it can't allocate a replacement mbuf. What it will do is allocate them very fast, and sometimes mbufs do get held inside the kernel for too long a time. It seems to be worse in cases where you have a lot of UDP traffic or a large number of open TCP connections. My only suggestion for now is to add more mbufs by bumping NMBCLUSTERS. -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 10:43: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from astra.domix.de (dial-195-14-226-211.netcologne.de [195.14.226.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B96D37B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dr@localhost) by astra.domix.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9CHinn02876; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:44:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dr) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:44:49 +0200 From: Dominik Rothert To: Daniel Frazier Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is it safe to start cvsupping ports yet? Message-ID: <20001012194449.A2830@astra.local> Mail-Followup-To: Dominik Rothert , Daniel Frazier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <39E5E76D.D223020@magpage.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39E5E76D.D223020@magpage.com>; from dfrazier@magpage.com on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 12:31:41PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Daniel Frazier wrote: > I may have missed the all clear... also, do I need to do anything out of > the ordinary in order to account for the changes, or can I just uncomment > the cron job I had commented out when I saw the heads up? Ports with new layout work fine, at least for me. I think it should work now quite stable, but there's no guarantee. -Dominik -- /* Dominik Rothert | dr@astorit.com * * A S T O R I T | http://www.astorit.com/ * * Hohenzollernring 52 | fon +49-221-251440 * * 50672 Cologne, Germany | fax +49-221-251443 */:wq! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 10:46:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EA837B66C; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9CHkLQ85428; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:46:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <39E5F8EC.177C241E@thehousleys.net> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:46:20 -0400 From: James Housley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: FreeBSD-Stable , wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG, "Kuriyama, Kent K Mr (CPF N651KK)" Subject: Re: xl driver again? Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE References: <20001012094914.F272@fw.wintelcom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alfred Perlstein wrote: > I have two identical M/B here. On with 509B and the other a 509C. On the 509B I get timeouts and threshold reset. I have no problems with the 509C. Both are connected via a 10/100 switch and there is heavy traffic between the two. It looks like 3com fixed most of the problems in the C version Jim -- jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- The wise man built his network upon Un*x. The foolish man built his network upon Windows. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 10:53: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from giganda.komkon.org (giganda.komkon.org [209.125.17.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EFD37B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from str@localhost) by giganda.komkon.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27745; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:53:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from str) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:53:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Igor Roshchin Message-Id: <200010121753.NAA27745@giganda.komkon.org> To: jedgar@fxp.org, str@giganda.komkon.org Subject: Re: sendmail.8.11.1 ? Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20001012125257.B31321@peitho.fxp.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:52:57 -0400 > From: Chris Faulhaber > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 12:41:10PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > I wonder if there are any plans or work in progress to > > port sendmail 8.11.1 from -current to -stable ? > > Both, 3-stable and 4- stable have 8.9.3.1 > > > > 8.11.1 was imported to RELENG_4 on Tue Oct 10 05:07:15 2000 UTC. > 8.11.0 was imported to RELENG_4 on Sun Aug 27 17:30:58 2000 UTC. > Oops. Yes, I just looked into the CVS logs, and noticed that. However, for some reason, there are no changes in 4.0-stable/src/contrib/sendmail directory on ftp.freebsd.org What am I missing here ? (The ls output is below - you can see, that the file are old, and the RELEASE_NOTES is for 8.9.3.1 ) Thanks, Igor > dir total 363 drwxrwxr-x 2 2035 207 512 Apr 24 23:05 CVS -rw-rw-r-- 1 2035 207 259 Aug 3 1998 FAQ -rw-rw-r-- 1 2035 207 8090 Feb 7 1999 KNOWNBUGS -rw-rw-r-- 1 2035 207 4590 Jan 12 1999 LICENSE -rw-rw-r-- 1 2035 207 510 Jan 12 1999 Makefile -rw-rw-r-- 1 2035 207 14786 Feb 7 1999 README -rw-rw-r-- 1 2035 207 328584 Feb 7 1999 RELEASE_NOTES drwxrwxr-x 12 2035 207 512 Apr 24 23:05 cf drwxrwxr-x 3 2035 207 512 Apr 24 23:05 contrib drwxrwxr-x 7 2035 207 512 Apr 24 23:05 doc drwxrwxr-x 3 2035 207 512 Apr 24 23:05 mail.local drwxrwxr-x 3 2035 207 512 Apr 24 23:05 mailstats drwxrwxr-x 3 2035 207 512 Apr 24 23:05 makemap drwxrwxr-x 3 2035 207 512 Apr 24 23:05 praliases drwxrwxr-x 3 2035 207 512 Apr 24 23:05 rmail drwxrwxr-x 3 2035 207 512 Apr 24 23:05 smrsh drwxrwxr-x 3 2035 207 1024 Apr 24 23:05 src drwxrwxr-x 3 2035 207 512 Apr 24 23:05 test /.0/FreeBSD/branches/4.0-stable/src/contrib/sendmail freebsd> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 10:57: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B24737B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CF8B81360E; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:57:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:57:01 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Igor Roshchin Cc: jedgar@fxp.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail.8.11.1 ? Message-ID: <20001012135701.A33402@peitho.fxp.org> References: <20001012125257.B31321@peitho.fxp.org> <200010121753.NAA27745@giganda.komkon.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010121753.NAA27745@giganda.komkon.org>; from str@giganda.komkon.org on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 01:53:02PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 01:53:02PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:52:57 -0400 > > From: Chris Faulhaber > > > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 12:41:10PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > I wonder if there are any plans or work in progress to > > > port sendmail 8.11.1 from -current to -stable ? > > > Both, 3-stable and 4- stable have 8.9.3.1 > > > > > > > 8.11.1 was imported to RELENG_4 on Tue Oct 10 05:07:15 2000 UTC. > > 8.11.0 was imported to RELENG_4 on Sun Aug 27 17:30:58 2000 UTC. > > > > Oops. > Yes, I just looked into the CVS logs, and noticed that. > > However, for some reason, there are no changes in > 4.0-stable/src/contrib/sendmail directory on ftp.freebsd.org > > What am I missing here ? > (The ls output is below - you can see, that the file are old, > and the RELEASE_NOTES is for 8.9.3.1 ) > The tree you mention appears to be a bit out of date (by 6 months or so). -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 11:13:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shadow.venix.net (shadow.venix.net [198.68.200.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB36737B66E for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venix.net (pa-indiana1a-670.pit.adelphia.net [24.50.186.158]) by shadow.venix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C2A22E06 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:13:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39E5FFDA.E460CC90@venix.net> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:15:54 -0400 From: Nader X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: crash Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi guys, i installed a fresh FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE and 2 days ago i cvsup to 4.1.1-STABLE earlier today, the system crashed for no reason. It never happend before. I just wanted to know if that's something normal. thanks, - nader To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 11:26:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shadow.venix.net (shadow.venix.net [198.68.200.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1414C37B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venix.net (pa-indiana1a-670.pit.adelphia.net [24.50.186.158]) by shadow.venix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFEF22E06; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39E602F7.61894159@venix.net> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:29:11 -0400 From: Nader X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: crash References: <39E5FFDA.E460CC90@venix.net> <008201c03478$fbb077e0$ea6810ac@psinetcs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is the only line I see in logs before the machine was rebooted. Oct 12 07:53:47 shadow login: auth_pam: Conversation error I've never had such problems before. I mean could it be power failure??? Thanks, - Nader "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote: > Of course it is normal! Doy! > > Perhaps a little more detail? > > Tom Veldhouse > veldy@veldy.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nader" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 1:15 PM > Subject: crash > > > hi guys, > > i installed a fresh FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE and 2 days ago i cvsup to > > 4.1.1-STABLE > > earlier today, the system crashed for no reason. It never happend > > before. > > I just wanted to know if that's something normal. > > > > thanks, > > > > - nader > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 11:58:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shadow.venix.net (shadow.venix.net [198.68.200.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2A437B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venix.net (pa-indiana1a-670.pit.adelphia.net [24.50.186.158]) by shadow.venix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D917B22E06; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39E60A62.8A4A2A2@venix.net> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:00:50 -0400 From: Nader X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: crash References: <39E5FFDA.E460CC90@venix.net> <008201c03478$fbb077e0$ea6810ac@psinetcs.com> <39E602F7.61894159@venix.net> <00a501c0347a$b4858e80$ea6810ac@psinetcs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here's what's in the logs: Oct 12 05:25:23 shadow popper[41386]: @pa-indiana1a-670.pit.adelphia.net: -ERR Too few arguments for the auth command. Oct 12 05:25:24 shadow popper[41386]: dark@pa-indiana1a-670.pit.adelphia.net: -ERR Unknown command: "xsender". Oct 12 05:28:35 shadow popper[41414]: @pa-indiana1a-670.pit.adelphia.net: -ERR Too few arguments for the auth command. Oct 12 07:53:47 shadow login: auth_pam: Conversation error Oct 12 08:03:56 shadow /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Oct 12 08:03:56 shadow /kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 I think the machine rebooted after that, I'm not sure if it's a crash or a power failure. but, what's those error messages? I mean could it be the popper crashing the machine? 'cause i keep getting this in my logs: Oct 12 14:04:03 shadow popper[1128]: @pa-indiana1a-670.pit.adelphia.net: -ERR Too few arguments for the auth command. Oct 12 14:04:04 shadow popper[1128]: dark@pa-indiana1a-670.pit.adelphia.net: -ERR Unknown command: "xsender". I didn't run mergemaster 'cause I dunno how to use it. I tried once and the machine never came back online :( Thanks, - Nader "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote: > When you upgraded to STABLE - did you run mergemaster? Looks to me like you > are having a problem with auth_pam. That could be because you only partly > upgraded world or perhaps you have not yet rebooted? There have not been > many changes between 4.1.1-RELEASE and 4.1.1-STABLE. > > To get a real answer - you need to send more information to the list (not > me - I am a nobody). Something like a kernel trace or dmesg output and the > contents of your syslog. That sort of thing. > > Tom Veldhouse > veldy@veldy.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nader" > To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 1:29 PM > Subject: Re: crash > > > This is the only line I see in logs before the machine was rebooted. > > > > Oct 12 07:53:47 shadow login: auth_pam: Conversation error > > > > I've never had such problems before. I mean could it be power failure??? > > > > Thanks, > > > > - Nader > > > > "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote: > > > > > Of course it is normal! Doy! > > > > > > Perhaps a little more detail? > > > > > > Tom Veldhouse > > > veldy@veldy.net > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Nader" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 1:15 PM > > > Subject: crash > > > > > > > hi guys, > > > > i installed a fresh FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE and 2 days ago i cvsup to > > > > 4.1.1-STABLE > > > > earlier today, the system crashed for no reason. It never happend > > > > before. > > > > I just wanted to know if that's something normal. > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > - nader > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 12: 2:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from paonline.com (paonline.com [207.44.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9C137B66D for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from justin [216.220.160.14] by paonline.com (SMTPD32-6.00) id AAA863590566; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:02:00 -0400 Message-ID: <019001c0347e$e1cff5c0$0ea0dcd8@paonline.com> From: "Justin" To: Subject: Problem unmounting a NFS fs Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:01:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, Recently I had a 4.1 machine running an NFS server so that I could easily back up files on my web servers. However powers that be (aka the boss) didn't like the idea that much and pulled the plug. Literally, just pulled the plug. Now the problem that I am running into is the web servers won't unmount the file system that was previously my 4.1 machine. These machines are Cobalt Microservers, running mips Linux. I have attempted the following. umount -n / also removed the mount from mtab and attempted to delete the dir, device busy. The man pages for the umount command on these boxes doesn't give many other options. I tried -f switch, but alas I get a return of "forcable umount not yet supported". Any help would be much appreciated. Justin Pennsylvania Online LTD *The analogy of a fast, economical automobile with lots of gadgets, and sporty appearance that frequently stalls in traffic despite repeated visits to the authorized service center is actually quite representative of Windows NT* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 12:16:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0D137B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 49B181360E; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:16:20 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Nader Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: crash Message-ID: <20001012151620.E31321@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Nader , "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org References: <39E5FFDA.E460CC90@venix.net> <008201c03478$fbb077e0$ea6810ac@psinetcs.com> <39E602F7.61894159@venix.net> <00a501c0347a$b4858e80$ea6810ac@psinetcs.com> <39E60A62.8A4A2A2@venix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39E60A62.8A4A2A2@venix.net>; from dark@venix.net on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 03:00:50PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 03:00:50PM -0400, Nader wrote: > Here's what's in the logs: > Oct 12 05:25:23 shadow popper[41386]: @pa-indiana1a-670.pit.adelphia.net: -ERR > Too few arguments for the auth command. > Oct 12 05:25:24 shadow popper[41386]: dark@pa-indiana1a-670.pit.adelphia.net: > -ERR Unknown command: "xsender". > Oct 12 05:28:35 shadow popper[41414]: @pa-indiana1a-670.pit.adelphia.net: -ERR > Too few arguments for the auth command. This is due to Netscape's mailer (not a problem, just annoying). See the popper homepage (FAQ or something) for an explanation. -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 12:30:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7C337B66C; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9CJU9928571; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:30:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:30:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable , wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG, "Kuriyama, Kent K Mr (CPF N651KK)" Subject: Re: xl driver again? Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE In-Reply-To: <20001012094914.F272@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > This leads me to believe that the driver is somehow tying down all > the mbufs for an extended period of time. If this problem still > hasn't been addressed in 4.1.1 it should be of concern as 'xl' is > supposed to be only second to 'fxp' in terms of quality and speed. The machine in question, for me, has an xl card, as well. -- Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 12:47:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEA637B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.211.149]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:46:25 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9CJlTA21891; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:47:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:47:28 -0700 From: "Crist J . Clark" To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpc.statd Message-ID: <20001012124728.B21767@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20001012003222.N25121@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from roman@xpert.com on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 10:02:41AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 10:02:41AM +0200, Roman Shterenzon wrote: > On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Crist J . Clark wrote: > > > > ..oh ..that?s a strange hostname. > > > > > > Which exploit is it that the attacker tries to use? I guess I?m not > > > vulnerable cause I?m still around ;) > > > > Most likely someone tried a Linux exploit on you, > > > > http://www.securityfocus.com/vdb/bottom.html?vid=1480 > > > > > Also, where can I find the ip of the attacker? Is it logged? > > > > Not 100% on this, but I think that is only logged if you used the '-d' > > option. See rpc.statd(8). > > Which makes me think... > How one protects rpc services rather then having default-deny policy on > outer interface? And if it's the only interface? > Of course it's possible to filter port 111 (or use /etc/hosts.allow), but > the attacker can contact the rpc.statd directly. > Is it possible to force some rpc service to some port so it can be > filtered? You have just explained why default-deny and only explictly allowing specific services is always the safest way. That said, I don't have rpc.statd running anywhere right now, but looking at a bunch of Solaris boxes with NFS exports, it seems to like to move around a lot and I see no documented method on any system to make it chose specific TCP and UDP ports. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 12:56:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-176-106.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501BF37B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9CJwih01023; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:58:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200010121958.e9CJwih01023@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Mark Powell Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PERC2 RAID support in 4.1-STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:10:12 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:58:44 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > There are two entirely different RAID controller families that are > > relabelled as "PERC 2". See > > http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/index.html#ami > > and > > http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/index.html#adaptec > > > > for more details. > > Do you know which AMI controllers the two compatible PERCs are based on. > >From the specs it would seem the 2/SC is an AMI Express 200 and the 2/DC > is an AMI Enterprise 1500. Is that right? That's correct. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 14:29:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from field.videotron.net (field.videotron.net [205.151.222.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA4737B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from modemcable213.3-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca ([24.201.3.213]) by field.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.12.14.10.29.p8) with ESMTP id <0G2C00EBR5MTMJ@field.videotron.net> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:13:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:17:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Bosko Milekic Subject: RE: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE In-reply-to: X-Sender: bmilekic@jehovah.technokratis.com To: "Kuriyama, Kent K Mr (CPF N651KK)" Cc: behanna@zbzoom.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Kuriyama, Kent K Mr (CPF N651KK) wrote: > Chris, > > Your email prompted me to look at mbuf utilization on a 4.1.1-STABLE box > that is currently not in production. > > outside# netstat -m > 130/160/7168 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 129 mbufs allocated to data > 1 mbufs allocated to packet headers > 128/136/1792 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 312 Kbytes allocated to network (92% in use) > ^^^^^^^^^^ > 0 requests for memory denied > 0 requests for memory delayed > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > outside# uptime > 4:32AM up 1 day, 14:01, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > > I don't know whether to be concerned about the 92% utilization since the > number of bytes allocated seems low. The machine has never crashed but then > it has never served as a server. > > Is this kind of mbuf utilization expected? Yes. This is just reporting how much of presently allocated pages are in use. It's really not my favorite statistic either, but I guess that in some situations, it can be fairly useful. > Kent Kuriyama > SPAWAR Sys Ctr San Diego D424, CINCPACFLT N671KK > kuriyakk@cpf.navy.mil, 808-471-4125 [...] Later, Bosko Milekic bmilekic@technokratis.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 14:44:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A604537B66D for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9CLinp37269 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:44:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:44:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Hrm! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have another machine which is having a problem that I just can't figure out. I cvsup it to the latest 3.5-STABLE src. I make buildworld, I make installworld, I 'config NS1', 'cd ../../compile/NS1', 'make depend', 'make', 'make install', reboot. It doesn't boot up. Well, it does, but the network connections are fried. Then, if I unload kernel and load kernel.old, it's fine. And back at 3.4-STABLE, of course. Any idea how to resolve or determine what the problem is? -- Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 15: 9:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ashburn.skiltech.com (ashburn.skiltech.com [216.235.79.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C3937B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from minter@localhost) by ashburn.skiltech.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9CItPx94430; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:55:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from minter) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:55:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "H. Wade Minter" X-Sender: minter@ashburn.skiltech.com To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sendmail 8.11/TLS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Speaking of the new sendmail 8.11, is there a good overview for getting encryption working with it? I haven't been able to find one. Thanks, Wade To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 15:38: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD36037B66C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.11.2.PreAlpha0/8.11.2.PreAlpha0) id e9CMc0J46015; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:38:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14822.15687.912101.617737@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:37:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: "H. Wade Minter" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.11/TLS In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.2 (beta36) "Notus" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG minter> Speaking of the new sendmail 8.11, is there a good overview for getting minter> encryption working with it? I haven't been able to find one. Until the changes to have it compile with TLS support out of the box are in place, you can compile it that way by adding this to /etc/make.conf: SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -DSTARTTLS -D_FFR_TLS_O_T -D_FFR_TLS_1 -D_FFR_TLS_TOREK SENDMAIL_LDADD+= -lssl -lcrypto SENDMAIL_DPADD+= ${LIBSSL} ${LIBCRYPTO} Then follow the directions at: http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/starttls.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 16: 3:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apoq.skynet.be (apoq.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2638C37B503; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by apoq.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FC99A54; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:03:05 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <14822.15687.912101.617737@horsey.gshapiro.net> References: <14822.15687.912101.617737@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:02:49 +0200 To: Gregory Neil Shapiro From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.11/TLS Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 3:37 PM -0700 2000/10/12, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -DSTARTTLS -D_FFR_TLS_O_T -D_FFR_TLS_1 -D_FFR_TLS_TOREK I'm confused. The CFLAGS line seems to indicate to me that you're using the Torek stdio library, which I understand comes with BSD by default (although I'm not sure if it's turned on by default). However, I've recently tried to install sendmail 8.11.1 here at this site, according to the instructions that come with the source, and those instructions have you downloading and installing the AT&T sfio 1999 library instead. Is it possible for sendmail 8.11.1 to use either version of the stdio libraries and yet still get STARTTLS working? If so, are there any future plans to modify the instructions that come with the source to include the option of using a different stdio library (such as Torek, which I understand can give you certain other highly desirable benefits)? Also (less related to this mailing list), are there any plans to support other stdio libraries on other platforms, but that also include support for STARTTLS? Thanks! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 16: 5:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C6837B502; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.11.2.PreAlpha0/8.11.2.PreAlpha0) id e9CN5cd46247; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:05:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14822.17346.558779.55242@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:05:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Brad Knowles Cc: Gregory Neil Shapiro , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.11/TLS In-Reply-To: References: <14822.15687.912101.617737@horsey.gshapiro.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.2 (beta36) "Notus" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG blk> However, I've recently tried to install sendmail 8.11.1 here at blk> this site, according to the instructions that come with the source, _FFR_'s are not documented. FFR stands for for-future-release. blk> and those instructions have you downloading and installing the AT&T blk> sfio 1999 library instead. Is it possible for sendmail 8.11.1 to use blk> either version of the stdio libraries and yet still get STARTTLS blk> working? Yes, BSD systems can use STARTTLS without sfio. blk> If so, are there any future plans to modify the instructions that blk> come with the source to include the option of using a different stdio blk> library (such as Torek, which I understand can give you certain other blk> highly desirable benefits)? 8.12 will not require sfio, nor a BSD stdio library. blk> Also (less related to this mailing list), are there any plans to blk> support other stdio libraries on other platforms, but that also blk> include support for STARTTLS? See above. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 16:50:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ne.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ne.home.com [24.2.4.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E13B37B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from athena ([24.3.219.36]) by mail.rdc1.ne.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001012235027.KALQ1658.mail.rdc1.ne.home.com@athena>; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:50:27 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20001012192324.00c0de90@email.eden.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: damascus@netmail.home.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:58:59 -0500 To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" From: Carroll Kong Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive Cc: Leonard Chung , Warner Losh , kline@tao.thought.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20001010190749.00c5cf00@207.227.119.2> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20001010124858.026637c0@yikes.com> <200010100509.XAA18135@harmony.village.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07:45 PM 10/10/00 -0500, you wrote: >At 01:17 PM 10/10/00 -0700, Leonard Chung wrote: >> >>The differing RPMs is more of a marketing decision than any inherent >>limitation in IDE itself. SCSI is a premium product, so it gets the >>higher RPMs first and sometimes bigger buffers, but again, this is due >>not to the SCSI bus having higher performance. Where the focus is on >>spindle speed for SCSI, the focus for IDE is on areal density. IDE drives >>actually give better performance for the dollar in MAPS (megabyte >>accesses per second), KAPS (kilobyte accesses/s), and much better >>performance in sequential performance (i.e. all round) and for that >>price, you get the benefit of redundancy. So with IDE you get better >>performance and less cost. > >This smells like a techie sales pitch. Little meaningful info regardless >of terms and large words. Did I mention I'm a hard sell? Actually, it is probably true. On the low-end, IDE's although rather rare bursts, would most likely outperform an older scsi drive. I got a 9.1 G Ultrastar 9LP and a maxtor 27 gigabyte ide drive. Sorry, the maxtor usually wins out. However, do realize, sequential data is useless for certain applications. If you do serious streaming of random data, you are going to be seeking everywhere. Plus SCSI can usually give consistently throughput, IDE usually does not. I believe the average data size is ~32KBytes before a new seek. So as you scale up the IDE burst, you start to realize your "savings in time" are pretty much nothing even if you could move an infinite amount of data. (if you just start counting seeks to the next data block). Unfortunately, my old 9.1 SCSI drive's seek time is NOT impressive... so the maxtor gets darn close, and with it's superior data rate burst, the scsi drive loses. The superior data rate comes from the density. Please note, density drops on the scsi drive since they want to keep the disk platters lighter (optimized for the in between for speed and density). The Scsi bus is far superior to the Ide bus, overlapping queue commands, etc. Some reasons why scsi is more expensive, They are giving you a longer warranty on average, more liability. Scsi is harder to debug (the controllers), testing is a larger % of cost in all hardware. (this is a hard fact, the testing adding a large % of the cost that is). The entire "it's cheaper since i dont' need a scsi controller" bit. The controller on the drive itself probably costs a bit more due to economies of scale. You can argue researching for the fastest known drive at the time is expensive too. And the ever popular "It's a conspiracy by the harddrive makers!" (ok.. I do not vouch for this, as I strongly feel the former possibilities are the harder reason why). >You would need follow up with figures that involve more than one >transaction. Many more. The hardware may be similar, but the interface >is where the "real world" difference will be evident in a busy production >environment. > >The vagaries referring to price I must presume are talking about RAID >arrays (otherwise it's non-scenical). Seeing a comparison between the >same array with IDE vs SCSI would be interesting. Drives should have very >similar numbers using your comparison. > >With IDE I think most would agree that initial cost will be >lower. However, longevity counts, so total cost for the lifecycle should >be considered. The longer the period, the more likely that IDE will end >up costing more. With IDE I think most would agree that initial cost will be lower. However, longevity counts, so total cost for the lifecycle should be considered. The longer the period, the more likely that IDE will end up costing more. Despite the fact that if you count the warranty factor, it's still cheaper per megabyte to throw the old IDE drive away and get a new one. I do not believe there is a strong correlation as to "ide drives dying faster" than "scsi drives." In fact, from my personal experience, I believe I have felt the same if not more leaning towards the IDE drives. I still vote for SCSI for the most part though. >Going strictly by drive specs and current street cost isn't near enough to >sell me, and surely others, on your ideas. Don't take offense either, >there just seem to be a few holes that need to be fixed. Even if you are >referring to a workstation or single user application where I have opted >for older "slower" SCSI drives than years newer IDE drives for performance >reasons. > >Anxiously awaiting the test results... 8-) > > >Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Well, not sure how old you are comparing your "slower" scsi drives... just telling you from personal experience .... oh yeah you want numbers? www.storagereview.com Ignore the crap with the other benchmarks. The IoMeter benchmark (by intel) is the better test. If you got an older cheetah or barracuda, you will probably get comparable if not superior performance against the new ides. If you got anything less... it's almost definitely slower. Of course the drivers will make a difference for cpu utilization. (scsi usually wins in this one). Finally, I am neither an IDE fan nor SCSI fan in all situations. They have their places in different areas. For Dollar per Megabytes, you really win with IDE. For performance, you might even say so (economically). For the absolute best... SCSI wins out. As for the raid situation, you'd need a dedicated channel for each IDE drive... good lord, does that thing take up IRQs per channel? If so, cannot possibly scale to match up to a good scsi raid. -Carroll Kong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 17:31:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C0737B66C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-216-7-178-81.sirius.net ([216.7.178.81] helo=workhorse.my.domain) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13jsm0-0002Ww-00; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:32:32 -0700 Received: from zeus.berkeley.edu (zeus [10.0.0.3]) by workhorse.my.domain (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9D0mNL03058; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:48:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leonard@ssl.berkeley.edu) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001012171658.02704b28@yikes.com> X-Sender: leonard@yikes.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:33:47 -0700 To: Carroll Kong , "Jeffrey J. Mountin" From: Leonard Chung Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive Cc: Warner Losh , kline@tao.thought.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20001012192324.00c0de90@email.eden.rutgers.edu> References: <4.3.2.20001010190749.00c5cf00@207.227.119.2> <4.3.2.7.2.20001010124858.026637c0@yikes.com> <200010100509.XAA18135@harmony.village.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:58 PM 10/12/2000, Carroll Kong wrote: >The Scsi bus is far superior to the Ide bus, overlapping queue commands, etc. Yes, to get the speeds that I was talking about, you need to have master-only on each string which is what you get using IDE RAID cards. In addition, they add only a nominal cost to the already cheap IDE drives. With good IDE RAID cards, you'll get the n-deep outstanding IOs, hot swap, and hardware RAID. Plus, it has the added benefit that the drives aren't sharing the bus, rather each IDE drive gets the full IDE channel to itself, so essentially where SCSI is a bus, the IDE RAID acts more like a switch. The other nice thing is that SCSI is notorious for being flaky sometimes, so you have to perform a little bit of SCSI voodoo. Getting the full 160MBps performance sometimes takes a bit of work, even with the LVD interfaces. IDE on the other hand doesn't require the expensive cables and is more reliable since each drive is on its own channel and the clock rate on each cable is slower. Someone could open the case and a cable could get cut, and only that one drive would go down. >Some reasons why scsi is more expensive, >They are giving you a longer warranty on average, more liability. >Scsi is harder to debug (the controllers), testing is a larger % of cost >in all hardware. (this is a hard fact, the testing adding a large % of >the cost that is). >The entire "it's cheaper since i dont' need a scsi controller" bit. >The controller on the drive itself probably costs a bit more due to >economies of scale. >You can argue researching for the fastest known drive at the time is >expensive too. > >And the ever popular "It's a conspiracy by the harddrive makers!" (ok.. I >do not vouch for this, as I strongly feel the former possibilities are the >harder reason why). Another big reason that you should add to the list is that SCSI is marketed as a high end premium product. Where IDE is aimed and and generally bought by OEMs moving drives at huge volumes, SCSI is a much higher margin, lower volume product, which is more likely to be sold through middlemen (i.e VARs who resell SUN relabeled SCSI drives, or maybe they're in an EMC, etc.). These middlemen really help to increase the cost of the drive. The cost of the controller itself is relatively cheap, adding only about $15/drive. >Finally, I am neither an IDE fan nor SCSI fan in all situations. They >have their places in different areas. For Dollar per Megabytes, you >really win with IDE. For performance, you might even say so >(economically). For the absolute best... SCSI wins out. As for the raid >situation, you'd need a dedicated channel for each IDE drive... good lord, >does that thing take up IRQs per channel? If so, cannot possibly scale to >match up to a good scsi raid. IDE RAID cards actually do all the heavy lifting themselves, and masquerade as SCSI controllers to the OS. So there's no IRQ problem there. The main difficult with IDE RAID is that most commodity boxes don't make it easy to get lots of IDE cables to drive bays from your PCI card. Especially with IDE's 18" limitation and fat cables, it's difficult to pull off correctly. There are cases out there that do make it easy, but you have to look around. You can also get ones specifically made for use with IDE RAID, but you can't just pop into your local Fry's to pick one up (yet!). Leonard -- Leonard Chung - SETI@home - The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence @ home http://www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 17:34:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D23B37B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e9D0Xxo06021; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:33:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Ricardo Campos Passanezi Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems after compiling & installing a new Kernel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Ricardo Campos Passanezi wrote: > I've tried to install a new kernel here, which, in fact, I could. But > when I reboot the machine, here's what I get: > > panic: pmap_bootsrap: no local apic! > mp_lock = 00000006; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 You compiled with the SMP options when your system doesn't support it. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 17:47: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25BD37B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28104; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:46:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: Chris Byrnes Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hrm! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You'd want to check the dmesg output and see if your kernel is detecting your network card, probably. For what it's worth, I did a recent upgrade through 3.x and got bit by my 3COM NIC getting the kernel driver changed from vn0 to xl0, could be the same with yours. Ken On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Chris Byrnes wrote: > I have another machine which is having a problem that I just can't figure > out. > > I cvsup it to the latest 3.5-STABLE src. I make buildworld, I make > installworld, I 'config NS1', 'cd ../../compile/NS1', 'make depend', > 'make', 'make install', reboot. > > It doesn't boot up. > > Well, it does, but the network connections are fried. > > Then, if I unload kernel and load kernel.old, it's fine. And back at > 3.4-STABLE, of course. > > Any idea how to resolve or determine what the problem is? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 19:34:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web9807.mail.yahoo.com (web9807.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4871F37B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20001013023406.91348.qmail@web9807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.49.103.9] by web9807.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:34:06 PDT Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:34:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Hummel Subject: installworld problem To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I saw a few references but no definitive answer in the archives. I have been cvsup'ing and making world every day for the last 5 days and the result is always the same: ln -sf libz.so.2 /usr/lib/libz.so install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 zlib.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3 ===> bin ===> bin/cat install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 cat /bin /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec/elf/strip: /bin/stH13908: Operation not permitted *** Error code 70 Stop in /usr/src/bin/cat. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 It always fails in the exact same place. I even rm -rf'd my source tree and started again with a new cvsup just to be sure my source wasn't funkified. I'm puzzled. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 19:54:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from static.unixfreak.org (static.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAAE37B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by static.unixfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5D38B1F25; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: installworld problem In-Reply-To: <20001013023406.91348.qmail@web9807.mail.yahoo.com> "from Dave Hummel at Oct 12, 2000 07:34:06 pm" To: Dave Hummel Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Dima Dorfman Reply-To: dima@unixfreak.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL82 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20001013025449.5D38B1F25@static.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, > > I saw a few references but no definitive answer in the > archives. I have been cvsup'ing and making world every > day for the last 5 days and the result is always the > same: > > ln -sf libz.so.2 /usr/lib/libz.so > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 zlib.3.gz > /usr/share/man/man3 > ===> bin > ===> bin/cat > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 cat /bin > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec/elf/strip: > /bin/stH13908: Operation not permitted It's trying to write a file to /bin. The solution is to unset the schg flag on /bin, /bin/*, /sbin, and /sbin/*, and reset them when installworld is finished. And if it's not a solution, it's a workaround with no apparent downsides (other than a bit more work). I've been doing this for quite some time. Hope this helps -- Dima Dorfman Finger dima@unixfreak.org for my public PGP key. "A problem well stated is a problem half solved." -- Charles F. Kettering To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 20:14:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu (beoclu-01.phy.GaSoU.edu [141.165.40.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C321637B503 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sdodson@localhost) by beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e9D3Eh022716 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:14:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sdodson) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:14:42 -0400 From: Scott Dodson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Minor problem with new ports setup Message-ID: <20001012231442.A22710@beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386 X-Propoganda: Use FreeBSD! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The new ports config has a problem with all the README.html files. They all point to pkg/DESCR for a description, but the new location is pkg-DESCR. I didn't know the correct place to address this, so I posted it here, where should I have posted this? -scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 20:21:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85EC37B66C; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA47133; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:22:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:22:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Scott Dodson Cc: ports@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Minor problem with new ports setup In-Reply-To: <20001012231442.A22710@beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Scott Dodson wrote: >The new ports config has a problem with all the README.html files. >They all point to pkg/DESCR for a description, but the new location is >pkg-DESCR. I didn't know the correct place to address this, so I >posted it here, where should I have posted this? > >-scott [Please wrap at 72 characters] You should have posted it to freebsd-ports. I've forwarded it for you. =) BTW, if you read the mailing list charters you'll get a better picture of where to post what. They're in the handbook in the mailing list section. -- Brandon D. Valentine "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." -- Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 20:40: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web9806.mail.yahoo.com (web9806.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D134237B66C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20001013033958.1763.qmail@web9806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.49.103.9] by web9806.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:39:58 PDT Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:39:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Hummel Subject: Re: installworld problem To: dima@unixfreak.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doh!! Why didn't I think of that? Silly me... I forgot about my own security precautions! As recommended on the security page I chflag'ed /bin and /sbin. Thanks! --- Dima Dorfman wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I saw a few references but no definitive answer in > the > > archives. I have been cvsup'ing and making world > every > > day for the last 5 days and the result is always > the > > same: > > > > ln -sf libz.so.2 /usr/lib/libz.so > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 zlib.3.gz > > /usr/share/man/man3 > > ===> bin > > ===> bin/cat > > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 cat /bin > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec/elf/strip: > > /bin/stH13908: Operation not permitted > > It's trying to write a file to /bin. The solution > is to unset the > schg flag on /bin, /bin/*, /sbin, and /sbin/*, and > reset them when > installworld is finished. And if it's not a > solution, it's a > workaround with no apparent downsides (other than a > bit more work). > I've been doing this for quite some time. > > Hope this helps > > -- > Dima Dorfman > Finger dima@unixfreak.org for my public PGP key. > > "A problem well stated is a problem half solved." > -- Charles F. Kettering __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 22: 1:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web1203.mail.yahoo.com (web1203.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE06937B66C for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21773 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Oct 2000 05:16:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20001013051610.21772.qmail@web1203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.130.15.128] by web1203.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:16:10 PDT Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:16:10 -0700 (PDT) From: David Allen Subject: Re: Lockups on 4.1.1-STABLE after upgrade from 3.4 To: Jasper O'Malley Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Jasper O'Malley wrote: > > Greetings, > > I've got problems with a customer's firewall, > running FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE > 3.4.10. The machine locks up solid once or twice a > day, usually twice, at > about the same times every day. When it locks up, > it's simply frozen. No > panics, no network connectivity, and the console > freezes--no new messages, > cannot send input from the keyboard, cannot switch > virtual terminals. The > only thing to do is hit the reset button or power > cycle the box. I ran a > full fsck on all filesystems on Monday (October 10), > and didn't hit any > errors. > > > What I've done so far: > > 1) Stripped my kernel config down to the bare > minimum, removing support of > USB devices, as well (I don't use any), after > hearing similar problems > from other Compaq users which were solved by > disabling USB support. > > 2) Disabled usbd and deleted the usb.ko from the > /modules folder for good > measure. > > What I'm going to do: > > 1) Cvsup today's sources, just to be sure. > > 2) Bump NMBCLUSTERS up to 4096 and try out a new > kernel. > > 3) Upgrade IP Filter to 3.4.11. > > If this doesn't work, I'm going to have to backrev > to 4.1-RELEASE, but I'd > rather not do that if I don't have to. > > Anyone have any idea what else I can try? > > Cheers, > Mick If the box lockes up at the same time try a netstat and watch what is hapenning just befor it lockes up, compare that to a freshboot netstat. try top as well. heardwear? can you revert to 3.4 for a trial. if that works fine, then it is ~99.99% NOT heardwear. best of luck, Dave __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 12 23:53: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ratogi.arc.nasa.gov (ratogi.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.132.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8B237B503; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ratogi@localhost) by ratogi.arc.nasa.gov (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9D6mva29322; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:48:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ratogi@eecs.berkeley.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: ratogi.arc.nasa.gov: ratogi owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:48:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Ray Gilstrap X-Sender: ratogi@ratogi.arc.nasa.gov To: Scott Dodson Cc: "Brandon D. Valentine" , ports@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Minor problem with new ports setup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 'make readmes' at the top of the ports tree (or within a category) will fix this globally (or within the category). If you'd rather not wait for all that to finish, you can fix it on a case-by-case basis by doing 'make readme' (singular) in a particular port's directory. Ray == RAY GILSTRAP ====================================================== UC Berkeley Electrical Engineering/ ratogi@eecs.berkeley.edu NASA Research and Education Network http://www.ratogi.net ====================================================================== On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: : On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Scott Dodson wrote: : : >The new ports config has a problem with all the README.html files. : >They all point to pkg/DESCR for a description, but the new location is : >pkg-DESCR. I didn't know the correct place to address this, so I : >posted it here, where should I have posted this? : > : >-scott : : [Please wrap at 72 characters] : : You should have posted it to freebsd-ports. I've forwarded it for you. : =) : : BTW, if you read the mailing list charters you'll get a better picture : of where to post what. They're in the handbook in the mailing list : section. : : -- : Brandon D. Valentine : "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a : good example." -- Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson : : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 0: 5: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495AA37B502 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 00:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA25267; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 02:04:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-106.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.106) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma025264; Fri Oct 13 02:04:39 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20001013005356.00ba4a20@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 02:04:46 -0500 To: Carroll Kong From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive Cc: Leonard Chung , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20001012192324.00c0de90@email.eden.rutgers.edu> References: <4.3.2.20001010190749.00c5cf00@207.227.119.2> <4.3.2.7.2.20001010124858.026637c0@yikes.com> <200010100509.XAA18135@harmony.village.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20001009190324.028c6d58@yikes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07:58 PM 10/12/00 -0500, Carroll Kong wrote: CC's trimmed. >>This smells like a techie sales pitch. Little meaningful info regardless >>of terms and large words. Did I mention I'm a hard sell? > >Actually, it is probably true. On the low-end, IDE's although rather rare >bursts, would most likely outperform an older scsi drive. I got a 9.1 G >Ultrastar 9LP and a maxtor 27 gigabyte ide drive. Sorry, the maxtor >usually wins out. My point was the mixing of various terms, cost, and no clear application. For some applications the latest IDE "king" can beat out SCSI's "king" (incidentally the Atlas2 regained the crown from the FXP75). >I do not believe there is a strong correlation as to "ide drives dying >faster" than "scsi drives." In fact, from my personal experience, I >believe I have felt the same if not more leaning towards the IDE >drives. I still vote for SCSI for the most part though. This may change, but if indeed the perception is wrong, then only time will tell. Some SCSI drives have spent the better part of a decade being thrashed from various people's testimony. Personally I had 3 lightly used IDE drives die within a 2 week period or was it 4 in a 3 week. Different brands and models as well. IMO, WD went to pot years back their choice on concentrating on the low end market doesn't help. Seagate's IDE drives seem to have been among the slowest around. Years back started having better results with Maxtor and then IBM came in with the best performance and price for *both* SCSI and IDE. Many have talked about their good experiences with the former, but can't say I recall much on the latter. With SCSI never liked Fujitsu much (unless I wanted to fry eggs). Seagate was good, but Micropolis started doing better. Never even thought about WD's lame attempt. IBM's been the choice for a while. Everyone's opinions vary, but what seems clear is that IDE has gained far more than SCSI has performance wise. However, in most cases they do seem to fail more often, but not as much as they used to, IMO. >Well, not sure how old you are comparing your "slower" scsi drives... just >telling you from personal experience .... oh yeah you want numbers? Ah yes, my "newer" IDE boot drive does fairly well compared to the "older" SCSI drives. Until I start doing many things at the same time. Between new and old is a few years and to be honest, the newest is at least 3 years old. >www.storagereview.com Numbers for single drive testing mean little in a server context. Sure the newer IDE can lay down large files much faster, but doing any disk IO during a buildworlds and the SCSI wins. Drives aren't the issue, but architecture is for several reason. >Ignore the crap with the other benchmarks. The IoMeter benchmark (by >intel) is the better test. If you got an older cheetah or barracuda, you >will probably get comparable if not superior performance against the new >ides. If you got anything less... it's almost definitely slower. Of >course the drivers will make a difference for cpu utilization. (scsi >usually wins in this one). My point to Leonard off-list was to use a FBSD setup for testing. Nothing large scale. Single drive and a 4 drive RAID 0+1 setup would be sufficient. More pertinent to the list and less likely to be met with suspicion coming from M$. >Finally, I am neither an IDE fan nor SCSI fan in all situations. They >have their places in different areas. For Dollar per Megabytes, you >really win with IDE. For performance, you might even say so >(economically). For the absolute best... SCSI wins out. As for the raid >situation, you'd need a dedicated channel for each IDE drive... good lord, >does that thing take up IRQs per channel? If so, cannot possibly scale to >match up to a good scsi raid. Usually the "boot" drive is IDE and SCSI handles everything else. Have had good luck with this with zero failures (knock on wood). That is partly due to rotating out drives from servers to workstations when doing drive-swap upgrades, but I do have a couple that have been around for a while. Been wondering for 2 years when one is going to die. By it's sound, anytime. Not that I want it to. Call it perverse, but am facing an hour drive at any time. Murphy's Law - It's expected to fail and therefor will not. Recently the CPU fan crapped out instead. Now to get a little more on topic here... Most likely going to checkout the 3Ware controller. Anyone running these on -stable? From Mike Smith's pages, some have deployed them in production environments and that was in late May. A more appealing IDE solution than boards with 4 channels and needing 4 IRQ's. Only issue is case layout, as mentioned elsewhere. If it pans out, will be able to save one party about half the cost of hard drives in a new server. And if not... I wanted to pickup some new hardware. ;) Gimme a year or three and it might be considered for low end solutions. Otherwise, it's an alternative with no guarantee. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 0:20:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E97637B502 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 00:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e9D7Kp943364 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:20:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr ([134.157.10.102]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id JAA23619 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:20:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from michel@localhost) by rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00493 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:20:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michel) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:20:50 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange net errors: how can I trace it? Message-ID: <20001013092050.A468@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001012151758.A41011@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 06:58:17PM +0200, flag wrote: > > Other info for you. > > This my log when I connect to my ISP, note the errors in the HDLC: > > Oct 12 18:28:48 NewLuxor ppp[215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: HDLC errors -> > FCS: 2, > ADDR: 0, COMD: 0, PROTO: 0 > > I have sometimes HDLC errors on my link (between two boxes running freebsd and connected by modem) and this has no effect on the possibility of running ftp ssh and so on. All is always working well. -- Michel Talon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 0:25:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A7F37B502 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 00:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e9D7PY944329 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:25:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr ([134.157.10.102]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id JAA23633 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:25:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from michel@localhost) by rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00510 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:25:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michel) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:25:33 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: xl driver again? Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE Message-ID: <20001013092533.B468@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-Stable References: <20001012094914.F272@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20001012094914.F272@fw.wintelcom.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:49:15AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > I'll also note that the problem seems to be quite interesting as > I'm having nearly the exact same thing happen to me, basically the > card is fine for 2-3 days after reboot, then *BOOM* I run out of > mbufs, however mine does recover after a couple of minutes. > > This problem has plagued the xl driver for nearly two years, If > there's anything I can do to help diagnose where the problem is > I'll be the first to try to provide any information requested. > > xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x00 int a irq 12 on pci0.15.0 > xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:4b:36:df:74 > xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (full-duplex, 100Mbps) > Yes, but my freebsd box with a 3com card has never exhibited this behaviour. xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xd000-0xd07f mem 0xe1000000-0xe100007f irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0 I have never seen out of mbufs, still home directories, mail etc. are nfs mounted. -- Michel Talon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 0:32: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from enigma.whacky.net (enigma.whacky.net [194.109.204.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD13837B502; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 00:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from stephanb@localhost) by enigma.whacky.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e9D7Vos55917; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:31:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stephanb) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:31:50 +0200 From: Stephan van Beerschoten To: Scott Dodson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Minor problem with new ports setup Message-ID: <20001013093149.A55842@enigma.whacky.net> References: <20001012231442.A22710@beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001012231442.A22710@beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu>; from sdodson@phy.gasou.edu on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 11:14:42PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Scott Dodson wrote: > The new ports config has a problem with all the README.html files. They all point to pkg/DESCR for a description, but the new location is pkg-DESCR. I didn't know the correct place to address this, so I posted it here, where should I have posted this? > There is a FreeBSD-ports mailinglist for these kinds of information. I've cc'ed them (I am not on the list myself) so they should get the message too now :) -Steve -- Stephan van Beerschoten stephanb@whacky.net PGP fingerprint: 4557 9761 B212 FB4C 778D 3529 C42A 2D27 "When the counter reaches zero: RUN!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 0:46:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.over.ru (over.rinet.ru [195.54.192.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C9F6537B503 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 00:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 49613 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Oct 2000 07:45:57 -0000 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:45:57 +0400 From: Alex Povolotsky To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Linux emulator broken? Message-ID: <20001013114557.D48530@mail.over.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I've tried to run linux-netscape6, it required new (6.1) linux_base. linux_base failed to install from ports (on two different boxes, 3.3 and 4.1), I've installed it from packages on 3.3 box (haven't yet tried on 4.1) and all linux programs breaks since that time. Signal 12, bad system call :-( Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 1: 9:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp5.libero.it (smtp5.libero.it [193.70.192.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB63137B66C for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from libero.it (193.70.192.64) by smtp5.libero.it; 13 Oct 2000 10:09:23 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:11:02 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Strange net errors: how can I trace it? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "flaggaccio@libero.it" To: stable@freebsd.org X-XaM3-API-Version: 1.1.9.1.22 X-SenderIP: 159.149.134.17 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have sometimes HDLC errors on my link (between two boxes running freebsd and > connected by modem) and this has no effect on the possibility of running ftp > ssh and so on. All is always working well. So it's not an HDLC problem. Someone tell me to use tcpdump to see what's going wrong. But What should I look for? Paolo p.s. apologize me for my bad english, I hope you understand me =3D) p.p.s. I tried to ask for help on the net ml, but no one have replied to my msg =3D( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 1:11:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.libero.it (smtp2.libero.it [193.70.192.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55B537B503 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from libero.it (193.70.192.64) by smtp2.libero.it; 13 Oct 2000 10:11:49 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:13:28 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Apache/PHP ports MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "flaggaccio@libero.it" To: stable@freebsd.org X-XaM3-API-Version: 1.1.9.1.22 X-SenderIP: 159.149.134.17 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What happened to the port of the php-module (version 3&4) for apache? Paolo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 1:13: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F6B37B503 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AE6831C41; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 04:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 04:13:02 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: "flaggaccio@libero.it" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache/PHP ports Message-ID: <20001013041302.N37870@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from flaggaccio@libero.it on Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 10:13:28AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 10:13:28AM +0200, flaggaccio@libero.it wrote: > What happened to the port of the php-module (version 3&4) for apache? ports/www/mod_php[34] < /usr/ports > make search key=php |wc -l 112 -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 1:18:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.libero.it (smtp4.libero.it [193.70.192.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA87C37B66C for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from libero.it (193.70.192.64) by smtp4.libero.it; 13 Oct 2000 10:18:30 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:20:09 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Apache/PHP ports MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "flaggaccio@libero.it" To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: billf@chimesnet.com X-XaM3-API-Version: 1.1.9.1.22 X-SenderIP: 159.149.134.17 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 10:13:28AM +0200, flaggaccio@libero.it wrote: > > What happened to the port of the php-module (version 3&4) for apache? > > ports/www/mod_php[34] > > < /usr/ports > make search key=3Dphp |wc -l > 112 And why not symlink apache_php3&4 to mod_php??? Anyway you time-response is amazing. =3D) Paolo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 1:27:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.libero.it (smtp3.libero.it [193.70.192.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2673037B502 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from libero.it (193.70.192.64) by smtp3.libero.it; 13 Oct 2000 10:27:13 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:28:52 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: PPP connection to German T-Online MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "flaggaccio@libero.it" To: nils@nightcastleproductions.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-XaM3-API-Version: 1.1.9.1.22 X-SenderIP: 159.149.134.17 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Well, this is not the problem if I interpret the logfile correctly. Below > I have included first of all the ppp.conf file I use and then there's also > a section from my ppp.log file that reflects the connection. And, oh yes, > if it helps, I'm using FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE. I think that we have the same problem. Try to read my msg "Strange net errors". Paolo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 1:27:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E9C37B66C for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A19891C41; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 04:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 04:27:26 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: "flaggaccio@libero.it" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache/PHP ports Message-ID: <20001013042726.O37870@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from flaggaccio@libero.it on Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 10:20:09AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 10:20:09AM +0200, flaggaccio@libero.it wrote: > > > What happened to the port of the php-module (version 3&4) for > apache? > > > > ports/www/mod_php[34] > > > > < /usr/ports > make search key=php |wc -l > > 112 > > And why not symlink apache_php3&4 to mod_php??? The ports system doesn't use symlinks. > Anyway you time-response is amazing. =) I'm a species of the "American night owl". -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 1:31:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.libero.it (smtp4.libero.it [193.70.192.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2438F37B502 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from libero.it (193.70.192.64) by smtp4.libero.it; 13 Oct 2000 10:31:43 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:33:22 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Apache/PHP ports MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "flaggaccio@libero.it" To: billf@chimesnet.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-XaM3-API-Version: 1.1.9.1.22 X-SenderIP: 159.149.134.17 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > And why not symlink apache_php3&4 to mod_php??? > > The ports system doesn't use symlinks. So why don't delete the old one? > > Anyway you time-response is amazing. =3D) > > I'm a species of the "American night owl". I'm italian and here is 10:30 AM, anyway thanks again =3D) Paolo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 1:33:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C6537B502 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3A2551C41; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 04:33:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 04:33:31 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: "flaggaccio@libero.it" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache/PHP ports Message-ID: <20001013043331.P37870@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from flaggaccio@libero.it on Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 10:33:22AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 10:33:22AM +0200, flaggaccio@libero.it wrote: > > The ports system doesn't use symlinks. > > So why don't delete the old one? The files are gone, the directory structure probably remains because of a README.html file or extra stuff left over. I use cvs and not cvsup so I'm not really familiar with what cvsup does with dead directories. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 1:38: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.abacus.co.uk (mailgate.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C5637B503 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abacus.co.uk (pcantony.bl.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.111]) by mailgate.abacus.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15238 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:41:23 +0100 Message-ID: <39E6C9E3.FAFF6C47@abacus.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:37:55 +0100 From: Antony T Curtis Organization: Abacus Polar PLC (UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-20000828-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Kuriyama, Kent K Mr (CPF N651KK)" wrote: > > Chris, > > Your email prompted me to look at mbuf utilization on a 4.1.1-STABLE box > that is currently not in production. > > outside# netstat -m > 130/160/7168 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 129 mbufs allocated to data > 1 mbufs allocated to packet headers > 128/136/1792 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 312 Kbytes allocated to network (92% in use) > ^^^^^^^^^^ > 0 requests for memory denied > 0 requests for memory delayed > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > outside# uptime > 4:32AM up 1 day, 14:01, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > > I don't know whether to be concerned about the 92% utilization since the > number of bytes allocated seems low. The machine has never crashed but then > it has never served as a server. > > Is this kind of mbuf utilization expected? > > Kent Kuriyama > SPAWAR Sys Ctr San Diego D424, CINCPACFLT N671KK > kuriyakk@cpf.navy.mil, 808-471-4125 Mine looks like the following: A box with heavy traffic : FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE Average traffic exceeds 4GB per day. # netstat -m 867/1120 mbufs in use: 800 mbufs allocated to data 67 mbufs allocated to packet headers 463/656/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 1452 Kbytes allocated to network (71% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines # uptime 9:28AM up 206 days, 19:30, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 And a box with very light traffic : FreeBSD 4.1-20000828-STABLE Average traffic less than 20MB per day. $ netstat -m 207/448/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): 157 mbufs allocated to data 50 mbufs allocated to packet headers 117/254/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 620 Kbytes allocated to network (46% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines $ uptime 9:21AM up 17 days, 17:09, 4 users, load averages: 2.02, 0.97, 0.50 The worrying thing is that the box with light traffic has had to be rebooted because it stopped talking on the network. This happens expecially quickly if I am using NFS a lot. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 1:52:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9157737B502; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBABDCC5; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:52:12 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <14822.17346.558779.55242@horsey.gshapiro.net> References: <14822.15687.912101.617737@horsey.gshapiro.net> <14822.17346.558779.55242@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:33:58 +0200 To: Gregory Neil Shapiro From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.11/TLS Cc: Gregory Neil Shapiro , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 4:05 PM -0700 2000/10/12, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > _FFR_'s are not documented. FFR stands for for-future-release. Understood. > Yes, BSD systems can use STARTTLS without sfio. Cool. I was not aware that sendmail was capable of using multiple different stdio libraries and still able to support STARTTLS on top of that. > 8.12 will not require sfio, nor a BSD stdio library. Excellent! This is wonderful news! Now, I don't suppose you can give us any hints of a projected shipping date, can you? ;-) -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 1:59:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDCD37B502 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA10082; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010130859.BAA10082@implode.root.com> To: Antony T Curtis Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:37:55 BST." <39E6C9E3.FAFF6C47@abacus.co.uk> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:59:46 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >"Kuriyama, Kent K Mr (CPF N651KK)" wrote: >> >> Chris, >> >> Your email prompted me to look at mbuf utilization on a 4.1.1-STABLE box >> that is currently not in production. >> >> outside# netstat -m >> 130/160/7168 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): >> 129 mbufs allocated to data >> 1 mbufs allocated to packet headers >> 128/136/1792 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) >> 312 Kbytes allocated to network (92% in use) >> ^^^^^^^^^^ Perhaps I should have spoken up earlier, but none of these reports has indicated a problem. The "92%" above is the percent of buffers that have been allocated and are currently in-use. The system allocates more when the pool runs out. The % in use is essentially a useless number that shouldn't even be reported because it just causes confusion about what it means. -DG David Greenman Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org President, TeraSolutions, Inc. - http://www.terasolutions.com Pave the road of life with opportunities. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 2:21:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B906537B66C for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 02:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22304 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Oct 2000 09:21:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Oct 2000 09:21:13 -0000 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 05:21:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: David Greenman Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE In-Reply-To: <200010130859.BAA10082@implode.root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, David Greenman wrote: ... : Perhaps I should have spoken up earlier, but none of these reports has : indicated a problem. The "92%" above is the percent of buffers that have been : allocated and are currently in-use. The system allocates more when the pool : runs out. The % in use is essentially a useless number that shouldn't even : be reported because it just causes confusion about what it means. Sounds like a chance for a FAQ entry? I know I got caught by that originally till I sat down and thought about it for a while, might be nice to have. :) : -DG * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE55tQJdMMtMcA1U5ARAr2VAJsHeHGh7t8K6UYbG5ApYG/h9ElZjQCffYY4 zGYXNcARIHhJx8F20rq5w2M= =5VGI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 5: 3:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F8537B66D; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 05:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id FAA03494; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 05:03:10 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda03492; Fri Oct 13 05:03:10 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.0/8.9.1) id e9DC36T05668; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 05:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdYi5664; Fri Oct 13 05:02:31 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.1/8.9.1) id e9DC2G413278; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 05:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010131202.e9DC2G413278@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdJ13267; Fri Oct 13 05:01:33 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) Cc: bright@wintelcom.net (Alfred Perlstein), behanna@zbzoom.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, KuriyaKK@cpf.navy.mil Subject: Re: xl driver again? Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:42:30 PDT." <20001012174230.C471737B502@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 05:01:32 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20001012174230.C471737B502@hub.freebsd.org>, Bill Paul writes: > The xl driver never holds more than 128 mbuf clusters in the receive ring. > Whenever a new packet comes in, it sends one of the mbufs out and replaces > it with a new one. IT DOESN'T HOLD ONTO THEM. It will however complain if > it can't allocate a replacement mbuf. What it will do is allocate them very > fast, and sometimes mbufs do get held inside the kernel for too long a > time. It seems to be worse in cases where you have a lot of UDP traffic > or a large number of open TCP connections. My only suggestion for now > is to add more mbufs by bumping NMBCLUSTERS. Is there a reason why the kernel might hold on to mbufs for "too long a time" (I take that to mean longer than it should)? Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 5:15:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scorba.crt.com (scorba.crt.com [209.224.167.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F05637B502 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 05:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frosty.il.nbgfn.com (frosty.il.nbgfn.com [10.216.34.242]) by scorba.crt.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e9DCFI506471 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:15:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from chitmp05.nt.il.nbgfn.com (chitmp05.nt.il.nbgfn.com [10.216.18.34]) by frosty.il.nbgfn.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24723 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:15:18 -0500 (CDT) From: mike.perik@bankofamerica.com Received: by chitmp05.nt.il.nbgfn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <43NX3HW5>; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:15:18 -0500 Message-ID: To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: boot problems Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:15:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just installed 4.1.1-RELEASE on a dual 100mhz ALR Evolution that has a LinkSys 100 nic, Diamond Stealth 64 4mb vision 964, ISA Vibra16 Soundblaster(non-pnp), DPT PM2022A scsi controller which has 2 2G seagate barracuda, 1 Quantum Fireball (1.2 G), 1 DEC (1 G) and a NEC 3x CDROM drive on it. I was able to get the system installed but on boot it panics with this: panic: resource_list_alloc: resource entry is busy I set boot_verbose=1 and the line preceding the panic is ata-: ata2 exists, using next available unit number. I also get a this: atapci0 Busmastering DMA not supported I was having the same problem when I used the kern/boot floppies created from the 4.1.1 CD. I used the floppies created off of a 4.1 CD and I was able to boot fine. I set the release tag to 4.1.1-RELEASE and the install went great, although both php-3 and php-4 packages failed. When it came to configuring the kernel for the install I deleted all network cards, and the pc-card under misc because of conflicts. Where can I get more info on this step of the install? Where can I get some better diagnostics. In verbose mode everything scrolls off the screen to fast to see what else is going on. I am suspicious of my NEC CD drive being a little flaky but I'm not sure if that would effect bootup. Any ideas? Thanks, Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 5:52: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scorba.crt.com (scorba.crt.com [209.224.167.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE17437B503 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 05:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frosty.il.nbgfn.com (frosty.il.nbgfn.com [10.216.34.242]) by scorba.crt.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e9DCpr507026; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:51:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from chitmp05.nt.il.nbgfn.com (chitmp05.nt.il.nbgfn.com [10.216.18.34]) by frosty.il.nbgfn.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25807; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:51:53 -0500 (CDT) From: mike.perik@bankofamerica.com Received: by chitmp05.nt.il.nbgfn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <43NX3H8S>; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:51:52 -0500 Message-ID: To: aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: boot problems Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:51:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes they are disabled. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Edmonds [SMTP:aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com] > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 7:19 AM > To: Perik, Mike > Subject: Re: boot problems > > Did you disable the IDE controllers in the BIOS? > The ata driver is the IDE controller driver. > -- > Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology > Digital:Convergence > aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com > Phone: +1-214-292-6040 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 6: 4:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cosa.uk-legal.net (cosa.uk-legal.net [212.240.216.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C7137B503 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 06:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by cosa.uk-legal.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1058411289; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 14:04:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cosa.uk-legal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E2A1A; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 14:04:45 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 14:04:45 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Tulloch To: Scott Dodson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Minor problem with new ports setup In-Reply-To: <20001012231442.A22710@beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I noticed a while ago that only the ports that were installed at originall install time actually have a README.html and news ones that appear during cvsup don't. This seems to inidcate that the .html files are not part of the cvs ports tree. Anyone else noticed this or know why? Andrew On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Scott Dodson wrote: > The new ports config has a problem with all the README.html files. They all point to pkg/DESCR for a description, but the new location is pkg-DESCR. I didn't know the correct place to address this, so I posted it here, where should I have posted this? > > -scott > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 6:10:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE4A37B66C for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 06:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id D97881360E; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:10:13 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Andrew Tulloch Cc: Scott Dodson , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Minor problem with new ports setup Message-ID: <20001013091013.A35446@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Andrew Tulloch , Scott Dodson , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20001012231442.A22710@beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from andrew@cosa.uk-legal.net on Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 02:04:45PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 02:04:45PM +0100, Andrew Tulloch wrote: > I noticed a while ago that only the ports that were installed at > originall install time actually have a README.html and news ones that > appear during cvsup don't. This seems to inidcate that the .html > files are not part of the cvs ports tree. Anyone else noticed this or know > why? > The README.html files are not part of the cvs tree. They are created/installed when: 1) you install the ports collection during installation 2) you type 'make readmes' in /usr/ports 3) you type 'make readme' in a port's subdirectory -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 7:45:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citusc.usc.edu (citusc.usc.edu [128.125.38.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0975237B670 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kris@localhost) by citusc.usc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA19881; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:46:37 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:46:37 -0700 From: kris@citusc.usc.edu To: Jason Neumann Cc: Stable Subject: Re: Fatal Tarp in 4.1.1 Message-ID: <20001013074637.A19873@citusc.usc.edu> References: <39E49FC7.98FCEAD4@alaska.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <39E49FC7.98FCEAD4@alaska.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 09:13:43AM -0800, Jason Neumann wrote: > Greetings, > A few days ago I received a 'Fatal Trap 12' followed by a spontaneous > reboot on 4.1.1-stable. My installed src was up to date as of Sept. 29, > 2000. A common cause of this is loading modules which are out of date with respect to the kernel you are running, e.g. the linux module which is loaded at boot. Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 7:46:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-99.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A1A37B66C for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id e9DEl8s78056 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:47:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:47:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Minor problem with new ports setup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Andrew Tulloch wrote: > I noticed a while ago that only the ports that were installed at > originall install time actually have a README.html and news ones that > appear during cvsup don't. This seems to inidcate that the .html > files are not part of the cvs ports tree. Anyone else noticed this or know > why? The ports tree has changed significantly. Go to /usr/ports and type "make readmes" and they'll all be generated (it will take awhile). -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 8:40:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yez.hyperreal.org (425gate.collab.net [63.211.145.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B2C637B66E for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3485 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Oct 2000 15:40:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Oct 2000 15:40:12 -0000 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:40:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Behlendorf X-Sender: brian@yez.hyperreal.org To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bad IDE Drive In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20001013005356.00ba4a20@207.227.119.2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > IMO, WD went to pot years back their choice on concentrating on the low end > market doesn't help. Seagate's IDE drives seem to have been among the > slowest around. Years back started having better results with Maxtor and > then IBM came in with the best performance and price for *both* SCSI and > IDE. Many have talked about their good experiences with the former, but > can't say I recall much on the latter. I've had two recent IBM drives (both U2W 36G, out of four recently purchased) fail on me recently within weeks of purchase. I would hesitate to recommend them again, which is unfortunate because they used to be completely trustable. Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 9: 0: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1521037B66D for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp16466029.columbus.rr.com [24.164.66.29]) by cmh-dial.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23135 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39E732C4.FEAF1CC5@columbus.rr.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:05:24 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using adaptec 29160 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First off, thanks to everyone who responded with information. To bring everyone up to date: We built the machine and installed FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE yesterday, it's an ASUS mobo with Athlon 750 processor, 256M RAM and dual 29160N controllers to 2 IBM 18G Ultra160 drives. On the first installation attempt, the machine hung during file copy. We tweaked the SCSI bios to use 80MB/sec transfer instead of 160MB/sec. The install went fine as well as a kernel build (woohoo - fast!) and everything seems to be just dandy now. The machine will be installed in the client's facil in a test config today and run that way ~2 weeks before going into live production. I'll post again with details if it gives us any probs. The machine will be a SQL server for a medical records system running MySQL. David Miller wrote: > Is probably a reflection of the fact that you can hook more up to a PCI > bus than you can get through it. > > IE, pci is only 132 MB/sec, and you can probably exceed that with just the > 29160, never mind the ethernet. This is interesting. Yes, theoretically a single 19160N should be able to do 160MB/sec. -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 9: 8: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cornflake.nickelkid.com (cornflake.nickelkid.com [216.116.135.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C2B37B503 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jooji@localhost) by cornflake.nickelkid.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA93627 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:08:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jooji@cornflake.nickelkid.com) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:08:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jasper O'Malley" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lockups on 4.1.1-STABLE after upgrade from 3.4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Jasper O'Malley wrote: > What I'm going to do [to resolve the lockups]: > > 1) Cvsup today's sources, just to be sure. > > 2) Bump NMBCLUSTERS up to 4096 and try out a new kernel. > > 3) Upgrade IP Filter to 3.4.11. Just an update to the list: I took all three of the above steps, in addition to bumping maxusers to 128 from 32, and the box locked up again this morning. I've cvsupped 4.1-RELEASE sources, and I'm remaking the world to see if the problem goes away. Cheers, Mick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 9:22:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D82737B66D for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93D82E44B for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id e9DGMdu52846; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:22:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14823.14022.555163.715742@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:22:30 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Minor problem with new ports setup In-Reply-To: <20001012231442.A22710@beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu> References: <20001012231442.A22710@beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "SD" == Scott Dodson writes: SD> The new ports config has a problem with all the README.html files. SD> They all point to pkg/DESCR for a description, but the new SD> location is pkg-DESCR. I didn't know the correct place to address SD> this, so I posted it here, where should I have posted this? cd /usr/ports; make readmes that will correct it. the README.html files are not part of ports, even though they may seem to be. also note that a few ports had README.html files checked in, and then cvs deleted, so every time you do a cvsup, you lose a few README.html files. Someone needs to cleanup the CVS attic to rid it of these files. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 9:57:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843290.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A6037B676 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e9DGus837243; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:56:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:56:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200010131656.e9DGus837243@earth.backplane.com> To: "Jasper O'Malley" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lockups on 4.1.1-STABLE after upgrade from 3.4 References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Jasper O'Malley wrote: : :> What I'm going to do [to resolve the lockups]: :> :> 1) Cvsup today's sources, just to be sure. :> :> 2) Bump NMBCLUSTERS up to 4096 and try out a new kernel. :> :> 3) Upgrade IP Filter to 3.4.11. : :Just an update to the list: : :I took all three of the above steps, in addition to bumping maxusers to :128 from 32, and the box locked up again this morning. I've cvsupped :4.1-RELEASE sources, and I'm remaking the world to see if the problem goes :away. : :Cheers, :Mick Just on the off-chance that the keyboard is not completely locked up, try enabling the DDB option in the kernel config and see if you can CTL-ALT-ESC into a DDB prompt from the console when it locked up on you. If you can, do a 'trace' and a 'ps'. Also check to see if you are running any processes that use special scheduler queues (aka idprio or rtprio). If so, try not running those processes and see if the system locks up on you. Note that 'ntpd' will often run at a realtime priority. Try killing ntpd if you are running it. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 10: 1:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.webmailer.de (natmail2.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9305337B66D for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alvman.IbHaakh.de (p3EE03DCC.dip.t-dialin.net [62.224.61.204]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA03508; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 19:01:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from wilma.IbHaakh.de (wilma.IbHaakh.de [192.168.63.21]) by alvman.IbHaakh.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e9DH10L01582; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 19:01:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Andreas@Haakh.de) From: Andreas Haakh Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 19:03:25 GMT Message-ID: <20001013.19032590@wilma.IbHaakh.de> Subject: Re: rc.diskless2 tries to use filesystems not mounted yet To: anton@urc.ac.ru (Anton Voronin), freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.1; OS/2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------=_4D48012269D001A94CD0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------=_4D48012269D001A94CD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, i created this little patch to rc.diskless2. Right after mount_mfs ...=20= /var the directory /var/db is created (to pacify mount_nfs). It then=20= tries to mount_nfs the usr filesystem if there is an entry in=20 /etc/fstab and instead of creating the directory hierarchy in /var=20 =BBmanually=AB I use mtree to achieve this. The remainig nfs_mounts occur when required. Andreas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Am 09.10.00, 17.49.01, schrieb anton@urc.ac.ru (Anton Voronin) zum=20 Thema rc.diskless2 tries to use filesystems not mounted yet: > Hi all. > Yes, I know that rc.diskless2 may be redefined. But it seems not to=20= work > itself. It uses chown, find and cpio that are located in /usr. But in = the > diskless configuration /usr is usually an nfs partition, so it is=20 mounted > much later than ${mount_diskless} is called. So shouldn't this script= > mount all nfs filesystems itself? > Regards, > Anton Voronin > Ural Regional Center of FREEnet, > Southern Ural State University, > Chelyabinsk, Russia > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --------------=_4D48012269D001A94CD0 Content-Description: filename="xxyy" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="xxyy" Content-Type: text/plain; name ="xxyy" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- /etc/rc.diskless2 Sat Oct 7 09:34:36 2000 +++ /nodi/etc/rc.diskless2 Fri Oct 13 18:37:01 2000 @@ -13,18 +13,15 @@ fi =20 mount_mfs -s ${varsize:=3D65536} -T qp120at dummy /var -var_dirs=3D"run dev db msgs tmp spool spool/mqueue spool/lpd spool/outp= ut \ - spool/output/lpd" -for i in ${var_dirs} -do - mkdir /var/${i} -done -chmod 755 /var/run -chmod 755 /var/db -chmod 755 /var/spool -chmod 1777 /var/tmp -chown -R root.daemon /var/spool/output -chgrp daemon /var/spool/lpd +mkdir -p /var/db +case "`mount -d /usr`" in + *mount_nfs*) + echo "Mounting NFS filesystem /usr." + mount /usr + ;; +esac +mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist -p /var/ >/dev/null +echo "Created file hierarchy in /var." # # XXX make sure to create one dir for each printer as requested by lpd # --------------=_4D48012269D001A94CD0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 10:50: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D4C37B502; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id TAA91011; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 19:49:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9DHWlG28377; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 19:32:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 19:32:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Ports won't build on stable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please cc in email, I usually run and read current, but this is on a production machine. Not sure if this is a -stable or -ports question, so here goes: I just did a make world on a 4.1.1. I also have a fresh ports tree. When I try to make a port (I tried 4 different under archivers, and xlockmore) I get this message: Error: your port uses an old layout. Please update it to match this bsd.port.mk According to UPGRADING, the port tree should work again. I haven't made a cvsup on ports/all, I have used the example/port-supfile and removed the foreign languages. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 10:51:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from falla.videotron.net (falla.videotron.net [205.151.222.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EC237B66D for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from modemcable213.3-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca ([24.201.3.213]) by falla.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.12.14.10.29.p8) with ESMTP id <0G2D00EABQSNRC@falla.videotron.net> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:48:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:52:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Bosko Milekic Subject: Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE In-reply-to: X-Sender: bmilekic@jehovah.technokratis.com To: Matt Heckaman Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Matt Heckaman wrote: > Sounds like a chance for a FAQ entry? I know I got caught by that > originally till I sat down and thought about it for a while, might > be nice to have. :) > > : -DG > > * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * > * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * No. Please, no FAQ entry is needed about this. It would be ridiculous to dedicate time to writing more documentation and then having to deal with redirecting people to the right place. We're just going to remove that percentile and replace it with a more meaningful one, because everybody that has spoken out about this so far agrees. I don't see _any_ case, personally, where this statistic is remotely useful. The idea will probably be to replace it with a more accurate "percentage in use" metric which will account for all of mb_map. If nobody beats me to it, I'll have it committed by tomorrow. Thanks, Bosko Milekic bmilekic@technokratis.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 11: 7:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53C437B672 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id UAA03885; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:08:05 +0200 (MEST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13k9Ew-0005L8-00 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:07:30 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:07:30 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports won't build on stable Message-ID: <20001013200730.B17168@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from leifn@neland.dk on Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 07:32:46PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 07:32:46PM +0200, Leif Neland wrote: > Please cc in email, I usually run and read current, but this is on a > production machine. > > Not sure if this is a -stable or -ports question, so here goes: > > I just did a make world on a 4.1.1. > I also have a fresh ports tree. > > When I try to make a port (I tried 4 different under archivers, and > xlockmore) I get this message: > > Error: your port uses an old layout. Please update it to match this > bsd.port.mk > > According to UPGRADING, the port tree should work again. > > I haven't made a cvsup on ports/all, I have used the example/port-supfile > and removed the foreign languages. The problem is, the ports infrastructure itself needs updating. Leave the category ports-base in in any case, when you cvsup next time. Hope this helps... -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 11:34:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spiral.inspiral.net (spiral.inspiral.net [194.204.49.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7391E37B670; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imho (imho.inspiral.net [192.168.1.7]) by spiral.inspiral.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA55178; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:34:38 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from mauri@inspiral.net) From: "Lauri Laupmaa" Organization: Inspiral.Net To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:34:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: picobsd & TV application Cc: ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <39E771DB.3396.4AA4027@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I wonder if it is possible to make one-floppy-television using picobsd and some non-X tv application ? I have bt-848 based hauppauge TV-card. ideas/suggestions ? TIA Lauri _____________ Lauri Laupmaa +3725013369 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 11:45:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0FC37B503; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 57EDE1360E; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 14:44:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 14:44:59 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Lauri Laupmaa Cc: stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: picobsd & TV application Message-ID: <20001013144458.B35446@peitho.fxp.org> References: <39E771DB.3396.4AA4027@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39E771DB.3396.4AA4027@localhost>; from mauri@inspiral.net on Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 08:34:35PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 08:34:35PM +0200, Lauri Laupmaa wrote: > Hi > > I wonder if it is possible to make one-floppy-television using > picobsd and some non-X tv application ? > > I have bt-848 based hauppauge TV-card. > > ideas/suggestions ? > svgalib has been ported and is in the ports tree. In addition, there is a console TV application using svgalib under linux. Perhaps it too could be ported... -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 12: 3:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rapier.goldsword.com (rapier.goldsword.com [199.170.202.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBDD37B503 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jfarmer@localhost) by rapier.goldsword.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA10112; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:08:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:08:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "John T. Farmer" Message-Id: <200010131908.PAA10112@rapier.goldsword.com> To: mauri@inspiral.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: picobsd & TV application Cc: jfarmer@goldsword.com In-Reply-To: <39E771DB.3396.4AA4027@localhost> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 Lauri Laupmaa said: > Hi > > I wonder if it is possible to make one-floppy-television using > picobsd and some non-X tv application ? > > I have bt-848 based hauppauge TV-card. No ideas at the moment, but I'm interested in a similar application. I can use a full install system and HD but I want/need to use a fast 3-D type card as a full screen output to write mixed video, digital (local & loaded across a LAN), and ??? I want/need to do this at 1024x768 or higher. Also need to keep the frame rate above 24 fps (Want to stream full-screen live video out the port...) Suggestions? John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. Farmer Owner & CTO GoldSword Systems jfarmer@goldsword.com 865-691-6498 Knoxville TN Internet Services & Servers, Network Design, Consulting To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 12:14:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alaska.net (kelland.nwc.alaska.net [209.112.130.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE9937B66D for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alaska.net (grpcdial.alaska.net [209.112.134.74]) by alaska.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA04749 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:14:39 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <39E75F17.9F391BE6@alaska.net> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:14:31 -0800 From: Jason Neumann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stable Subject: cvsup status Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Can anyone recommend a mirror for cvs. I have been using cvsup1.freebsd.org, but it seems to have been perpetually busy for about a week (too many users). I used to cvsup daily at 2:00am as part of my daily.local, but I haven't had much luck getting on (day or night). Thanks JasonN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 12:20:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644F337B502 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9DJKhQ98242; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:20:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <39E76089.A8E9DB35@thehousleys.net> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:20:41 -0400 From: James Housley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Neumann Cc: Stable Subject: Re: cvsup status References: <39E75F17.9F391BE6@alaska.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jason Neumann wrote: > > Hello, > Can anyone recommend a mirror for cvs. I have been using > cvsup1.freebsd.org, but it seems to have been perpetually busy for about > a week (too many users). I used to cvsup daily at 2:00am as part of my > daily.local, but I haven't had much luck getting on (day or night). > Try http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cvsup.html#CVSUP-MIRRORS Jim -- jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." -- -Andrew Jackson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 12:57:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.WPI.EDU (smtp.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E0837B66E for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alphadyne (alphadyne.res.WPI.NET [130.215.229.152]) by smtp.WPI.EDU (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id e9DJvmj00543; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001a01c0354f$c183c220$98e5d782@res.WPI.NET> From: "Isaac Waldron" To: "Antony T Curtis" , References: <39E476F6.81ED5047@abacus.co.uk> Subject: Re: Plex86 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:57:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was working on a project like this for a while, however my freshman year at college has started to get in the way. I haven't looked at it for at least a month now, but should have some time to work on it in the future. If anyone's interested in helping me with this, please e-mail me. Isaac Waldron iwaldron at wpi dot edu > Is there anyone out there who knows enough about FreeBSD to be able to > make the plex86 project run on FreeBSD? > > Since we don't have a true native VMWare, wouldn't it be good if we're > supported by this effort instead? > > -- > ANTONY T CURTIS Tel: +44 (1635) 36222 > Abacus Polar Holdings Ltd Fax: +44 (1635) 38670 > > "All my friends and I are crazy. That's the only thing that keeps us > > sane." > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 13: 3:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6E037B502 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 110A41C79; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:03:27 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: David Greenman Cc: Antony T Curtis , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE Message-ID: <20001013160326.Q37870@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <39E6C9E3.FAFF6C47@abacus.co.uk> <200010130859.BAA10082@implode.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200010130859.BAA10082@implode.root.com>; from dg@root.com on Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 01:59:46AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 01:59:46AM -0700, David Greenman wrote: > >> 312 Kbytes allocated to network (92% in use) > >> ^^^^^^^^^^ > > Perhaps I should have spoken up earlier, but none of these reports has > indicated a problem. The "92%" above is the percent of buffers that have been > allocated and are currently in-use. The system allocates more when the pool > runs out. The % in use is essentially a useless number that shouldn't even > be reported because it just causes confusion about what it means. Perhaps we should change the message to "%d%% of those in use". -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 13:20: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3166837B670 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA27962; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:20:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-100.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.100) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma027960; Fri Oct 13 15:19:48 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20001013145850.00ba3100@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:19:44 -0500 To: Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Minor problem with new ports setup In-Reply-To: <14823.14022.555163.715742@onceler.kciLink.com> References: <20001012231442.A22710@beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu> <20001012231442.A22710@beoclu-01.phy.gasou.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:22 PM 10/13/00 -0400, Vivek Khera replied to: > >>>>> "SD" == Scott Dodson writes: > >SD> The new ports config has a problem with all the README.html files. >SD> They all point to pkg/DESCR for a description, but the new >SD> location is pkg-DESCR. I didn't know the correct place to address >SD> this, so I posted it here, where should I have posted this? The new location is pkg-descr as there was an upper to lower case change as well. >cd /usr/ports; make readmes > >that will correct it. the README.html files are not part of ports, >even though they may seem to be. also note that a few ports had >README.html files checked in, and then cvs deleted, so every time you >do a cvsup, you lose a few README.html files. Someone needs to >cleanup the CVS attic to rid it of these files. As I posted on -ports, they are: lang/snobol/README.html security/seahorse/README.html sysutils/obliterate/README.html Unless more crept in, they all have Attic entries for README.html Another problem is fixed with the patch in ports/21952, so that 'make readmes' will generate the category HTML files correctly. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 13:24:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517DA37B66E for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8627A2E449 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:24:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id e9DKOWr96533; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:24:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14823.28544.576629.49007@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:24:32 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: turning off rcmd is premature X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Earlier this week, the rcmd (rshd/rlogin) service was turned off by default for new installs, and if you let mergemaster update your config to the current "recommended" settings. I think this is premature. From where I sit, at least one more thing needs to be updated to allow using ssh before rcmd can be turned off. That is rmt. As it stands, new installs by default will not be able to do remote dumps properly until rshd is enabled in both inetd.conf and pam.conf. If rmt supported ssh as a transport (apparently OpenBSD's version does), then it would make sense to turn off rshd totally. I understand that the default config is just that, but there should be some consideration as to it being sensible. For myself, I protect rshd using tcpwrappers, so I'm not too worried about it for doing the dumps. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 13:30:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB9737B502; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA28134; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:30:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-100.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.100) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma028112; Fri Oct 13 15:30:03 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20001013151949.00b01ea0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:29:55 -0500 To: Bill Fumerola , "flaggaccio@libero.it" From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Apache/PHP ports Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20001013043331.P37870@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG CC'ing ports where this (and others) should be... At 04:33 AM 10/13/00 -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: >On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 10:33:22AM +0200, flaggaccio@libero.it wrote: > > > > The ports system doesn't use symlinks. > > > > So why don't delete the old one? > >The files are gone, the directory structure probably remains because of >a README.html file or extra stuff left over. I use cvs and not cvsup so >I'm not really familiar with what cvsup does with dead directories. Fairly sure that it will remove them and if not: find /usr/ports -type d -mindepth 3 -name pkg -exec rmdir {} \; find /usr/ports -type d -name patches -exec rmdir {} \; Will safely clean them out. The are 3 ports that have "patches"-like directories left: ./games/flightgear/patches.tools ./security/pgp/patches.non_usa ./security/pgp/patches.usa ./x11-toolkits/xforms/patches.alpha ./x11-toolkits/xforms/patches.i386 Also there are only 39 non-English "pkg" dirs and those are preserved with the "-mindepth 3" part. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 13:33: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gateway.symark.com (firewall.symark.westlake.iswest.net [207.178.203.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6544B37B502 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mailer@localhost) by gateway.symark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11240; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:32:55 -0700 Received: from camel.symark.com(128.1.1.97) by gateway.symark.com via smap (V2.1+anti-relay+anti-spam) id xma011223; Fri, 13 Oct 00 13:32:35 -0700 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:34:12 -0700 Message-ID: <01C0351A.45CBF470.ggross@symark.com> From: Glen Gross Reply-To: "ggross@symark.com" To: "'Vivek Khera'" , "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: turning off rcmd is premature Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:34:11 -0700 Organization: Symark Software X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From a non-programmer's standpoint, I also agree that turning off rshd is premature. The strength of UNIX is traditionally in the fact that it is an open system. Excessive zeal to make it secure also makes it less functional, and this is a delicate balance. Many people will just consider the OS "broken" if basic functionality is not there. This kind of thing will probably just cause me to avoid running mergemaster. For new systems I would then just FTP a working copy of inetd.conf from another system anyway, rather than manually edit all the disabled defaults. Just my 2 cents. Regards, Glen M. Gross Unix Technical Support Specialist Symark Software 5716 Corsa Avenue, Suite 200 Westlake Village, CA 91362 http://www.symark.com unix-support@symark.com Main: 800-234-9072 or 818-865-6100 Main fax: 818-889-1894 On Friday, October 13, 2000 1:25 PM, Vivek Khera [SMTP:khera@kciLink.com] wrote: > Earlier this week, the rcmd (rshd/rlogin) service was turned off by > default for new installs, and if you let mergemaster update your > config to the current "recommended" settings. > > I think this is premature. > > >From where I sit, at least one more thing needs to be updated to allow > using ssh before rcmd can be turned off. That is rmt. As it > stands, new installs by default will not be able to do remote dumps > properly until rshd is enabled in both inetd.conf and pam.conf. If > rmt supported ssh as a transport (apparently OpenBSD's version does), > then it would make sense to turn off rshd totally. > > I understand that the default config is just that, but there should be > some consideration as to it being sensible. For myself, I protect > rshd using tcpwrappers, so I'm not too worried about it for doing the > dumps. > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. > Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 > GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Glen M. Gross Unix Technical Support Specialist Symark Software 5716 Corsa Avenue, Suite 200 Westlake Village, CA 91362 http://www.symark.com unix-support@symark.com Main: 800-234-9072 or 818-865-6100 Main fax: 818-889-1894 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 14:43:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aslan.scsiguy.com (aslan.scsiguy.com [63.229.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F1837B502 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 14:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aslan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.scsiguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9DLhgQ05753; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:43:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from gibbs@aslan.scsiguy.com) Message-Id: <200010132143.e9DLhgQ05753@aslan.scsiguy.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Bill Moran Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone using adaptec 29160 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:05:24 EDT." <39E732C4.FEAF1CC5@columbus.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:43:42 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >This is interesting. Yes, theoretically a single 19160N should be able >to do 160MB/sec. The driver in 4.1R did not support these adapters at U160 speeds. 4.1.1-STABLE does. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 15:15:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD1137B502 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA554346; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:15:25 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <14823.28544.576629.49007@onceler.kciLink.com> References: <14823.28544.576629.49007@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:15:24 -0400 To: Vivek Khera , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: turning off rcmd is premature Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 4:24 PM -0400 10/13/00, Vivek Khera wrote: >Earlier this week, the rcmd (rshd/rlogin) service was turned off by >default for new installs, and if you let mergemaster update your >config to the current "recommended" settings. > >I think this is premature. Just so you know, this change has been discussed on other freebsd mailing lists. (which is only to say that this wasn't a rash change which was rushed in without anyone noticing). I think it's fine to disable rcmd in default installs. If you need it for remote dumps, then enable it. No one is removing the service, it is just a matter of you having to turn it on. I agree that changing 'rmt' to work with openssh is a very good idea too. I doubt anyone would object to that happening! --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 17:29:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7901737B66D for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (user-38lc8d9.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.33.169]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16417 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:29:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: PNP > /boot/kernel.conf Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been sifting through the sparse documentation on this subject and am not at all sure I have this right. I can't test this right now because this machine is currently in production and really needs to continue working untill at least tomorrow. Even then it would be nice to remote reboot this machine and actually have it come back up on its own. This machine is gateway for a local lan and has a dual 56k PNP isa modem. The boot -c commands to configure this modem would look like this. config> pnp 1 0 enable os irq0 3 drq0 0 port0 0x2f8 config> pnp 2 0 enable os irq0 5 drq0 0 port0 0x3e8 config> quit If someone would look at the following config and comment I would appreciate it. pn 1 0 en os ir sio1 3 dr sio1 0 po sio1 0x2f8 pn 2 0 en os ir sio2 5 dr sio2 0 po sio2 0x3e8 q I know that Graham Wheeler has done some work toward documentation on this but I wasn't able to find the result of his work in the archives. Thanks in advance, -- Jim Weeks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 17:36: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from arg1.demon.co.uk (arg1.demon.co.uk [194.222.34.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6843237B66C; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by arg1.demon.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 300) id 9B5789B0D; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 01:36:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arg1.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE9A5D05; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 01:36:47 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 01:36:47 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Gordon X-Sender: arg@server.arg.sj.co.uk To: Lauri Laupmaa Cc: stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: picobsd & TV application In-Reply-To: <39E771DB.3396.4AA4027@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Lauri Laupmaa wrote: > Hi > > I wonder if it is possible to make one-floppy-television using > picobsd and some non-X tv application ? For a trivial TV application, try http://www.arg1.demon.co.uk/vesatv.c It's a 200 line program (and many of those are whitespace). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 17:45: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B139F37B503 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id RAA06459; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:44:32 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda06457; Fri Oct 13 17:44:32 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.0/8.9.1) id e9E0iVF10401; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdF10399; Fri Oct 13 17:44:30 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.1/8.9.1) id e9E0iUb19137; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010140044.e9E0iUb19137@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdB19132; Fri Oct 13 17:44:17 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: "ggross@symark.com" Cc: "'Vivek Khera'" , "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: turning off rcmd is premature In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:34:11 PDT." <01C0351A.45CBF470.ggross@symark.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:44:17 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It's got nothing to do with whether someone's programmer or not. If anyone needs to turn any "r" services back on it's a simple edit of inetd.conf to remove the appropriate comment characters and send a HUP signal to inetd. If you tell mergemaster to not touch (choose "d") when updating inetd.conf, your inetd.conf will not change. You can also use the "m" directive to merge changes into your inetd.conf. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC In message <01C0351A.45CBF470.ggross@symark.com>, Glen Gross writes: > >From a non-programmer's standpoint, I also agree that turning off rshd is > premature. The strength of UNIX is traditionally in the fact that it is an > open system. > Excessive zeal to make it secure also makes it less functional, and this is a > > delicate balance. Many people will just consider the OS "broken" > if basic functionality is not there. This kind of thing will probably just > cause me to avoid running mergemaster. For new systems I would then just FTP > a > working > copy of inetd.conf from another system anyway, rather than manually edit all > the disabled defaults. Just my 2 cents. > > Regards, > > Glen M. Gross > Unix Technical Support Specialist > Symark Software > 5716 Corsa Avenue, Suite 200 > Westlake Village, CA 91362 > http://www.symark.com > unix-support@symark.com > Main: 800-234-9072 or 818-865-6100 > Main fax: 818-889-1894 > > > On Friday, October 13, 2000 1:25 PM, Vivek Khera [SMTP:khera@kciLink.com] > wrote: > > Earlier this week, the rcmd (rshd/rlogin) service was turned off by > > default for new installs, and if you let mergemaster update your > > config to the current "recommended" settings. > > > > I think this is premature. > > > > >From where I sit, at least one more thing needs to be updated to allow > > using ssh before rcmd can be turned off. That is rmt. As it > > stands, new installs by default will not be able to do remote dumps > > properly until rshd is enabled in both inetd.conf and pam.conf. If > > rmt supported ssh as a transport (apparently OpenBSD's version does), > > then it would make sense to turn off rshd totally. > > > > I understand that the default config is just that, but there should be > > some consideration as to it being sensible. For myself, I protect > > rshd using tcpwrappers, so I'm not too worried about it for doing the > > dumps. > > > > -- > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. > > Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 > > GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > Glen M. Gross > Unix Technical Support Specialist > Symark Software > 5716 Corsa Avenue, Suite 200 > Westlake Village, CA 91362 > http://www.symark.com > unix-support@symark.com > Main: 800-234-9072 or 818-865-6100 > Main fax: 818-889-1894 > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 17:48:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [63.109.230.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA69937B66E for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 273833D85; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DD55BA0 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:48:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy X-Sender: deimos@lowrider.lewman.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ata timeouts in 4.1-stable? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using fbsd 4.1-stable, last cvsup and make world was 2000-09-24. Everything looked fine until I added another ide drive, as secondary slave, to the primary master. I did check the archives first, and what I found was that people have reported this problem with ATA-66 controllers, not ATA-33. I now get log warnings such as: Oct 13 19:29:30 lowrider /kernel: ad2: WRITE command timeout - resetting Oct 13 19:29:30 lowrider /kernel: ata1: resetting devices .. done Oct 13 19:29:40 lowrider /kernel: ad2: WRITE command timeout - resetting Oct 13 19:29:50 lowrider /kernel: ata1: resetting devices .. done Oct 13 19:30:11 lowrider /kernel: ad2: WRITE command timeout - resetting Oct 13 19:30:11 lowrider /kernel: ata1: resetting devices .. done Oct 13 19:30:11 lowrider /kernel: ad2: WRITE command timeout - resetting Oct 13 19:30:11 lowrider /kernel: ata1: resetting devices .. done Oct 13 19:30:11 lowrider /kernel: ad2: WRITE command timeout - resetting Oct 13 19:30:11 lowrider /kernel: ata1-master: WARNING: WAIT_READY active=ATA_ACTIVE_ATA Oct 13 19:30:11 lowrider /kernel: ad2: trying fallback to PIO mode Oct 13 19:30:11 lowrider /kernel: ata1: resetting devices .. done My controller is: Oct 11 22:51:53 lowrider /kernel: atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 Oct 11 22:51:53 lowrider /kernel: ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 Oct 11 22:51:53 lowrider /kernel: ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 and my disks are: Oct 11 22:51:54 lowrider /kernel: ad0: 5006MB [10850/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 Oct 11 22:51:54 lowrider /kernel: ad2: 4134MB [8960/15/63] at ata1-master using WDMA2 Oct 11 22:51:54 lowrider /kernel: acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 The errors above occur during the dump of an fs, the creation of a large tarball, or nightly run jobs that involve ad2. The actual disk in ad2 came out of a 3.5-stable system that ran without these errors. The disk appears to be fine, as I've put it back into the old system, and dumped the /usr fs to a tarball on it. These errors don't appear to be affecting the end result, as the tarballs, and dump files are still valid, but I'm wondering if these are cause for concern. Or if I should add this to a PR? -- | Andy | e-mail | web | | | andy@lewman.com | www.lewman.com | ... If forced to travel on an airplane, try and get in the cabin with the Captain, so you can keep an eye on him and nudge him if he falls asleep or point out any mountains looming up ahead ... -- Mike Harding, "The Armchair Anarchist's Almanac" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 17:52:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [63.109.230.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D309D37B502 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9991D3D85; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063DC5BA0 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:52:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy X-Sender: deimos@lowrider.lewman.org Cc: Stable Subject: Re: cvsup status In-Reply-To: <39E76089.A8E9DB35@thehousleys.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, James Housley wrote: :> Can anyone recommend a mirror for cvs. I have been using :> cvsup1.freebsd.org, but it seems to have been perpetually busy for about :> a week (too many users). I used to cvsup daily at 2:00am as part of my :> daily.local, but I haven't had much luck getting on (day or night). :> : :Try http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cvsup.html#CVSUP-MIRRORS I've continually been unable to get into cvsup1-5 all week, at all different hours. Either fbsd is damn popular all of a sudden, or something else is up. My usual is cvsup3, as it is 2 hops from me. And it responds, very quickly, with access denied, user limit exceeeded. -- | Andy | e-mail | web | | | andy@lewman.com | www.lewman.com | ... If forced to travel on an airplane, try and get in the cabin with the Captain, so you can keep an eye on him and nudge him if he falls asleep or point out any mountains looming up ahead ... -- Mike Harding, "The Armchair Anarchist's Almanac" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 18:14: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2398237B66C for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (user-38lc8d9.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.33.169]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07806; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:13:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Andy Cc: Stable Subject: Re: cvsup status In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am afraid the new ports system is to blame. I always use cvsup3 and have been plagued with the same error all week. If you start the process and just let it run it will eventual log in. Updating ports for the first time on the new system is just time consuming and will take a few days to iron itself out. -- Jim Weeks On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Andy wrote: > On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, James Housley wrote: > > :> Can anyone recommend a mirror for cvs. I have been using > :> cvsup1.freebsd.org, but it seems to have been perpetually busy for about > :> a week (too many users). I used to cvsup daily at 2:00am as part of my > :> daily.local, but I haven't had much luck getting on (day or night). > :> > : > :Try http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cvsup.html#CVSUP-MIRRORS > > I've continually been unable to get into cvsup1-5 all week, at all > different hours. Either fbsd is damn popular all of a sudden, or > something else is up. > > My usual is cvsup3, as it is 2 hops from me. And it responds, > very quickly, with access denied, user limit exceeeded. > > -- > > | Andy | e-mail | web | > | | andy@lewman.com | www.lewman.com | > > ... If forced to travel on an airplane, try and get in the cabin with > the Captain, so you can keep an eye on him and nudge him if he falls > asleep or point out any mountains looming up ahead ... > -- Mike Harding, "The Armchair Anarchist's Almanac" > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 18:24:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.com (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E231737B66E for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dwcjr (unknown [216.118.21.147]) by leviathan.inethouston.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD63D177E07; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:26:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <0ede01c0357d$b66f3760$931576d8@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "Jim Weeks" , "Andy" Cc: "Stable" References: Subject: Re: cvsup status Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:26:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've noticed this problem all week, I let a cvsup process go and it might not connect for a good 24 hours, I use cvsup2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Weeks" To: "Andy" Cc: "Stable" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 8:13 PM Subject: Re: cvsup status > I am afraid the new ports system is to blame. > > I always use cvsup3 and have been plagued with the same error all > week. If you start the process and just let it run it will eventual log > in. > > Updating ports for the first time on the new system is just time consuming > and will take a few days to iron itself out. > > -- > Jim Weeks > > > On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Andy wrote: > > > On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, James Housley wrote: > > > > :> Can anyone recommend a mirror for cvs. I have been using > > :> cvsup1.freebsd.org, but it seems to have been perpetually busy for about > > :> a week (too many users). I used to cvsup daily at 2:00am as part of my > > :> daily.local, but I haven't had much luck getting on (day or night). > > :> > > : > > :Try http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cvsup.html#CVSUP-MIRRORS > > > > I've continually been unable to get into cvsup1-5 all week, at all > > different hours. Either fbsd is damn popular all of a sudden, or > > something else is up. > > > > My usual is cvsup3, as it is 2 hops from me. And it responds, > > very quickly, with access denied, user limit exceeeded. > > > > -- > > > > | Andy | e-mail | web | > > | | andy@lewman.com | www.lewman.com | > > > > ... If forced to travel on an airplane, try and get in the cabin with > > the Captain, so you can keep an eye on him and nudge him if he falls > > asleep or point out any mountains looming up ahead ... > > -- Mike Harding, "The Armchair Anarchist's Almanac" > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 18:48:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.cbn.net.id (smtp4.cbn.net.id [202.158.2.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D1D37B66F for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mona.viper.com (ip29-142.cbn.net.id [202.158.29.142]) by smtp4.cbn.net.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8625B53545 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 08:49:44 +0700 (JAVT) Received: (qmail 5458 invoked by uid 500); 14 Oct 2000 01:45:11 -0000 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 08:45:11 +0700 From: John Indra To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: *SOS* Can't change password on FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE Message-ID: <20001014084511.A5161@indocyber.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: Mutt 1.2.5i on Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear FreeBSD users... I have a FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE system that had been running great for days. After I upgrade it to FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE (2000-10-11), I can't change any user's password! *sigh* I have no problem like this before going to 4.1.1-STABLE as stated. # passwd root Changing local password for root. New password: Retype new password: passwd: cannot set password cipher: Undefined error: 0 passwd: /etc/master.passwd: unchanged What's wrong here? The whole kernel and userland upgrade seems to go fine without a problem. Anyone having the same symptoms? Please help... Thank you... Regards, John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 20:41:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.cbn.net.id (smtp1.cbn.net.id [202.158.2.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D106937B66D for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mona.viper.com (ip30-158.cbn.net.id [202.158.30.158]) by smtp1.cbn.net.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC8C53562 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:43:44 +0700 (JAVT) Received: (qmail 6220 invoked by uid 500); 14 Oct 2000 03:32:08 -0000 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:32:08 +0700 From: John Indra To: Tomasz Paszkowski Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: *SOS* Can't change password on FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE Message-ID: <20001014103208.A6204@indocyber.com> Mail-Followup-To: Tomasz Paszkowski , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20001014084511.A5161@indocyber.com> <20001014040142.A85930@genesis.k.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20001014040142.A85930@genesis.k.pl>; from ns88@genesis.k.pl on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 04:01:43AM +0200 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.2.5i on Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 04:01:43AM +0200, Tomasz Paszkowski wrote: |> # passwd root |> Changing local password for root. |> New password: |> Retype new password: |> passwd: cannot set password cipher: Undefined error: 0 |> passwd: /etc/master.passwd: unchanged |> |> What's wrong here? The whole kernel and userland upgrade seems to go fine |> without a problem. Anyone having the same symptoms? | | Something is broken, you're third person having this trouble. Glad to know that I'm not the only one. Now, how do we fix this problem? Regards, John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 20:41:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.cbn.net.id (smtp1.cbn.net.id [202.158.2.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FB537B66E for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mona.viper.com (ip30-158.cbn.net.id [202.158.30.158]) by smtp1.cbn.net.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBCB53557 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:43:38 +0700 (JAVT) Received: (qmail 6233 invoked by uid 500); 14 Oct 2000 03:37:01 -0000 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:37:01 +0700 From: John Indra To: Sean O'Connell Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: *SOS* Can't change password on FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE Message-ID: <20001014103701.B6204@indocyber.com> Mail-Followup-To: Sean O'Connell , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20001014084511.A5161@indocyber.com> <20001013221027.F563@stat.Duke.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20001013221027.F563@stat.Duke.EDU>; from sean@stat.Duke.EDU on Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 10:10:27PM -0400 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.2.5i on Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 10:10:27PM -0400, Sean O'Connell wrote: |John- | |There are/were a few posts to -stable that hit this last week. |One person's ("Patrick Bihan-Faou" ) comment [snipped] OK... Is there any remedy for this problem yet? I think that problem like this is too critical and have to be dealt with ASAP. Thanks for replying |Sean O'Connell Regards, John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 21:40:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B2937B66D for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08473 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9E4ehZ24640 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:40:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) From: Gary Kline Message-Id: <200010140440.e9E4ehZ24640@thought.org> Subject: how do I create a total of 6 vtty's? To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Organization: <> thought.org: pvblic service Unix since 1986... <> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What do I need to do to make a total of 6 virtual ttys? There are only 4 ttyvN entries in /etc/ttys but 12 entries in /dev. thanks much, gary -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 21:48:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wondermutt.net (host75-157.student.udel.edu [128.175.75.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F7137B66C for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from morgaine.udel.edu (morgaine.wondermutt.net [192.168.1.2]) by wondermutt.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA55059; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 00:51:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from papalia@udel.edu) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001014004447.00adc100@mail.udel.edu> X-Sender: papalia@mail.udel.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 00:46:52 -0400 To: Gary Kline , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: John Subject: Re: how do I create a total of 6 vtty's? In-Reply-To: <200010140440.e9E4ehZ24640@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > What do I need to do to make a total of 6 virtual ttys? There are > only 4 ttyvN entries in /etc/ttys but 12 entries in /dev. Just follow the theme in /etc/ttys (but only use 'secure' if your console is really secure :) ). Hope this helps, John ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure # Virtual terminals ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv3 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv4 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv5 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv6 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 21:51:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from krycek.zoominternet.net (krycek.zoominternet.net [63.67.120.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E146F37B66C for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29072 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2000 04:50:55 -0000 Received: from lcl12.cvzoom.net (208.226.155.12) by krycek.zoominternet.net with SMTP; 14 Oct 2000 04:50:55 -0000 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 00:51:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Donn Miller To: Gary Kline Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how do I create a total of 6 vtty's? In-Reply-To: <200010140440.e9E4ehZ24640@thought.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Gary Kline wrote: > > What do I need to do to make a total of 6 virtual ttys? There are > only 4 ttyvN entries in /etc/ttys but 12 entries in /dev. Just edit /etc/ttys, and add more entries. BTW, 4.1.1-stable has 8 vtys in /etc/ttys. You want to add some vtys like this: ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv3 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv4 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv5 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv6 "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure Then, do a "kill -HUP 1" to make the changes to your /etc/ttys file active. You must be running FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE, correct? - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 21:57:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAACA37B66D for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08678; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9E4vqO24816; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:57:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:57:51 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: John Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how do I create a total of 6 vtty's? Message-ID: <20001013215750.A24742@tao.thought.org> References: <200010140440.e9E4ehZ24640@thought.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20001014004447.00adc100@mail.udel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20001014004447.00adc100@mail.udel.edu>; from papalia@udel.edu on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 12:46:52AM -0400 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 12:46:52AM -0400, John wrote: > > > What do I need to do to make a total of 6 virtual ttys? There are > > only 4 ttyvN entries in /etc/ttys but 12 entries in /dev. > Just follow the theme in /etc/ttys (but only use 'secure' if your console > is really secure :) ). > > Hope this helps, > John > > ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > # Virtual terminals > ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > ttyv3 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > ttyv4 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > ttyv5 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > ttyv6 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > Hmm, hard to believe it is this simple! thanks, gary -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 22: 2:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87D137B671 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 22:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA08745; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 22:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9E52Ir24905; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 22:02:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 22:02:17 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Donn Miller Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how do I create a total of 6 vtty's? Message-ID: <20001013220217.B24742@tao.thought.org> References: <200010140440.e9E4ehZ24640@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from dmmiller@cvzoom.net on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 12:51:17AM -0400 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 12:51:17AM -0400, Donn Miller wrote: > On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > What do I need to do to make a total of 6 virtual ttys? There are > > only 4 ttyvN entries in /etc/ttys but 12 entries in /dev. > > Just edit /etc/ttys, and add more entries. BTW, 4.1.1-stable has 8 vtys > in /etc/ttys. You want to add some vtys like this: > > ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > ttyv3 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > ttyv4 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > ttyv5 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > ttyv6 "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure > > Then, do a "kill -HUP 1" to make the changes to your /etc/ttys file > active. > > You must be running FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE, correct? > No, 4.1, actually. I need more to do xdm remote using only *this* CRT to reach my two other networked servers. gary PS: I'll need to edit the 4.1.1 or 4.2 config, or mod my /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/* files... hmmmm. > -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 13 22:39:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rucus.ru.ac.za (rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.29.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C748737B66E for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 22:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15056 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Oct 2000 05:39:25 -0000 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 07:39:25 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: John Indra Cc: Tomasz Paszkowski , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: *SOS* Can't change password on FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE Message-ID: <20001014073925.A14507@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20001014084511.A5161@indocyber.com> <20001014040142.A85930@genesis.k.pl> <20001014103208.A6204@indocyber.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001014103208.A6204@indocyber.com>; from john@indocyber.com on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 10:32:08AM +0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386 X-URL: http://mithrandr.moria.org/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat 2000-10-14 (10:32), John Indra wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 04:01:43AM +0200, Tomasz Paszkowski wrote: > > |> # passwd root > |> Changing local password for root. > |> New password: > |> Retype new password: > |> passwd: cannot set password cipher: Undefined error: 0 > |> passwd: /etc/master.passwd: unchanged > |> > |> What's wrong here? The whole kernel and userland upgrade seems to go fine > |> without a problem. Anyone having the same symptoms? > | > | Something is broken, you're third person having this trouble. > > Glad to know that I'm not the only one. Now, how do we fix this problem? try: cd /usr/src/lib/libutil make clean depend all install cd /usr/src/lib/crypt make clean depend all install cd /usr/src/secure/lib/crypt make clean depend all install cd /usr/src/usr.bin/passwd make clean depend all install Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 1:10:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from merganser.its.uu.se (merganser.its.uu.se [130.238.6.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC3637B66E for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 01:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from regulus.student.UU.SE ([130.238.5.2]:63907 "HELO ertr1013.student.uu.se") by merganser.its.uu.se with SMTP id ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:10:00 +0200 Received: (qmail 46731 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Oct 2000 08:09:39 -0000 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:09:39 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PNP > /boot/kernel.conf Message-ID: <20001014100939.A46715@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jim@siteplus.net on Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 08:29:15PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 08:29:15PM -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > I have been sifting through the sparse documentation on this subject and > am not at all sure I have this right. I can't test this right now because > this machine is currently in production and really needs to continue working > untill at least tomorrow. Even then it would be nice to remote reboot > this machine and actually have it come back up on its own. > > This machine is gateway for a local lan and has a dual 56k PNP isa > modem. The boot -c commands to configure this modem would look like > this. > > config> pnp 1 0 enable os irq0 3 drq0 0 port0 0x2f8 > config> pnp 2 0 enable os irq0 5 drq0 0 port0 0x3e8 > config> quit > > If someone would look at the following config and comment I would > appreciate it. Unless I am badly mistaken you can use exactly the same syntax in /boot/kernel.conf and boot -c so you can put the lines above (minus prompts) in /boot/kernel.conf and it should work fine. I can't test that to verify my memory since I don't have a machine that runs 3.x and the pnp commands were removed in 4.0 (so if your machine is running 4.x, don't bother with those commands. It won't work.) > > pn 1 0 en os > ir sio1 3 > dr sio1 0 > po sio1 0x2f8 > pn 2 0 en os > ir sio2 5 > dr sio2 0 > po sio2 0x3e8 > q > -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 2:47:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lafontaine.cybercable.fr (lafontaine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54D4737B503 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 02:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1394325 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2000 09:47:24 -0000 Received: from r213m134.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO cybercable.fr) ([195.132.213.134]) (envelope-sender ) by lafontaine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Oct 2000 09:47:24 -0000 Message-ID: <39E82D20.4C66282D@cybercable.fr> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:53:36 +0200 From: Gilbert Dubois Reply-To: chabris@cybercable.fr X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Denis Schepin Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compaq 2500 and SMP - Thanks References: <39A6240E.3D8C47BF@nc.elektra.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Denis Schepin wrote: > Hi! > My name is Denis. I use Compaq Proliant 2500 with OS FreeBSD > -3.0-STBALE during > three years. Smart RAID Array controller appear in my system recently. > I > use standart on-board controller ncr before. Now, I build system > 4.1-STABLE with > Smart RAID Controller where ROOTDEV /dev/idada0s1a . And appears > problem > with SMP . Then boot process kernel compiled with supporting SMP, > broke > when reach phrase > Mount root device from /dev/idada0s1a > and then nothings happen. When I compile the kernel without SMP, boot > process is complete and machine > work fine. Perhapes this question not for you, but could you tell me > some ideas. > Best regards Deniss. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Now it works fine. Thanks everybody. Gilbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 3:44:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genesis.k.pl (genesis.korbank.pl [195.117.162.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A4137B66D for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 03:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ns88@localhost) by genesis.k.pl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9EAiSS94102 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 12:44:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ns88) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 12:44:28 +0200 From: Tomasz Paszkowski To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Why cu i suid && sgid Message-ID: <20001014124428.A7367@genesis.k.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG $ ls -l /dev/cuaa0 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 28, 128 14 Paz 01:09 /dev/cuaa0 $ ls -l /usr/bin/cu -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp dialer 123456 7 Paz 19:45 /usr/bin/cu So when I plug in to machine cisco console, everyone can operate on it. I think that 755 will be enough for cu. -- _ _ _ _ _ / \ | | / / / \ / \ --- Tomasz Paszkowski ------------------------------ | |\ \| | \ \ |/ \||/ \| === IPv4://3575244866 === IPNg://3ffe:8010:59::2 === /_/ \__/ /_/ \_/ \_/ -------------------Powered by Brain and Keyboard --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 5:21:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3ED37B502; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 05:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 13kQJY-0008Ez-00; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:21:24 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA69210; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:21:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:21:23 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Dolgan Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound problems under 4.1.1 Message-ID: <20001014132123.A69191@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20001010012905.A3426@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20001013214153.A1670@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20001013214153.A1670@home.com>; from sysctl@home.com on Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 09:41:53PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 09:41:53PM -0700, Dolgan wrote: | Have you found a solution to this problem yet? No. Actually it just got worse. Now even the basic audio device doesn't work. I was deleting and remaking devices in an effort to get them working, and now none of my sound works at all. :( | I just upgraded to 4.1.1-STABLE from 4.1.1-RELEASE and am experiencing | the same thing... | | 10/10/00 02:29 +0200 - j mckitrick: | > | >I tried 'play' after upgrading to 4.1.1 and running MAKEDEV, and it doesn't | >mork. The error message is '/dev/dsp: invalid argument'. I tried deleting | >and remaking the snd and snd0 nodes, which by the way complains about mixer | >being an invalid node, but somehow I got that working. | > | >I was using play to play a .wav, if it matters. Catting a .au file works | >fine. | > | >jcm | >-- | >"I drank WHAT ?!" - Socrates | > | > | >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message | > | | -- | (PGP public key: keyservers/0114B12B) jcm -- "I drank WHAT ?!" - Socrates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 5:24:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266F937B66C for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 05:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CC49797A ([24.6.196.46]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20001014122439.KRHN11792.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@CC49797A> for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 05:24:39 -0700 Message-ID: <003401c035d9$2c6b9fc0$2ec40618@wlgrv1.pa.home.com> From: "Kimuli Abella" To: Subject: make install fail - parse.y? Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 08:20:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C035B7.A4F54A80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C035B7.A4F54A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I cvsup'd REL 3-stable on a 3.4 machine using the following cvsupfile: ------------------------------------- *default host=3Dcvsup4.FreeBSD.org *default base=3D/usr *default prefix=3D/usr *default release=3Dcvs *default tag=3DRELENG_3 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-base src-bin src-etc src-lib src-libexec src-sbin src-share src-sys src-usrbin src-usrsbin *default tag=3D. ports-all ------------------------------------- no problems. then make world and received the following error: ------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/u= sr/sr c/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/var/qmail/bin:/bi= n:/ usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin BISON_SIMPLE=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr= /bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/l= ib/ GROFF_FONT_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/groff_font GROFF_TMAC_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/tmac LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=3Dt OBJFORMAT_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make DESTDIR=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -f Makefile.inc1 include-tools cd /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make cleandepend; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE = -DNOS HARED cleandepend; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE = -DNOS HARED all; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE = -DNOS HARED -B install cleandir obj rm -f .depend /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GPATH /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GRTAGS /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GSYMS /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GTAGS rm -f .depend /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GPATH /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GRTAGS /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GSYMS /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GTAGS make: don't know how to make parse.y. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. ------------------------------------- Does anyone know what parse.y is? Or what I should do to get myself -stable? Thanks. Francis Abella abellaf@allcet.com ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C035B7.A4F54A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi all,

I cvsup'd REL 3-stable on a 3.4 machine = using=20 the following=20 cvsupfile:

-------------------------------------
*default = =20 host=3Dcvsup4.FreeBSD.org
*default  = base=3D/usr
*default =20 prefix=3D/usr
*default  release=3Dcvs
*default =20 tag=3DRELENG_3
*default  delete=20 use-rel-suffix

src-base
src-bin
src-etc
src-lib
src-li= bexec
src-sbin
src-share
src-sys
src-usrbin
src-usrsbin*default=20 tag=3D.
ports-all
-------------------------------------
no=20 problems.

then make world and received the following=20 error:

-------------------------------------
cd=20 /usr/src;
PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sb= in:/usr/obj/usr/sr
c/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/s= bin:/var/qmail/bin:/bin:/
usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/= X11R6/bin
BISON_SIMPLE=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.sim= ple
COMPILER_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/= tmp/usr/bin
GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/us= r/src/tmp/usr/lib/
GROFF_FONT_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/gr= off_font
GROFF_TMAC_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/tmac
LD_L= IBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib
LIBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr= /src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib
NOEXTRADEPEND=3Dt
OBJ= FORMAT_PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec
/usr/obj/u= sr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make=20 DESTDIR=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -f
Makefile.inc1 include-tools
cd=20 /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et;=20 /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make
cleandepend;

/usr/obj/usr/src= /tmp/usr/bin/make=20 -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOS
HARED=20 cleandepend;

/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN = -DNOPIC=20 -DNOPROFILE -DNOS
HARED all;

/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make = -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOS
HARED -B install cleandir=20 obj
rm -f .depend=20 /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GPATH
/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/com= pile_et/GRTAGS
/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GSYMS
/usr/obj/u= sr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GTAGS
rm=20 -f .depend=20 /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GPATH
/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/com= pile_et/GRTAGS
/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GSYMS
/usr/obj/u= sr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/GTAGS
make:=20 don't know how to make parse.y. Stop
*** Error code = 2

Stop.
***=20 Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error = code=20 1

Stop.
-------------------------------------
Does anyone = know what=20 parse.y is?  Or what I should do to get
myself=20 -stable?

Thanks.

Francis Abella
abellaf@allcet.com
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C035B7.A4F54A80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 5:30:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from router.atom.ru (atomnet.rmt.ru [194.67.161.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A519637B502 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 05:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from laa@localhost) by router.atom.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12258; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:29:51 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:29:51 +0400 From: "Alexandr A. Listopad" To: Kimuli Abella Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make install fail - parse.y? Message-ID: <20001014162951.A12145@atom.ru> References: <003401c035d9$2c6b9fc0$2ec40618@wlgrv1.pa.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003401c035d9$2c6b9fc0$2ec40618@wlgrv1.pa.home.com>; from kabella@home.com on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:20:42AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:20:42AM -0400, Kimuli Abella wrote: > > Hi all, > > I cvsup'd REL 3-stable on a 3.4 machine using the following cvsupfile: > > ------------------------------------- > *default host=cvsup4.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs > *default tag=RELENG_3 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > > src-base > src-bin > src-etc > src-lib > src-libexec > src-sbin > src-share > src-sys > src-usrbin > src-usrsbin > *default tag=. > ports-all > ------------------------------------- > no problems. > > then make world and received the following error: > because you have not full list of collections, you need also: src-contrib src-gnu src-include src-tools ... and also see /usr/share/examples/cvsup Good Luck! -- Laa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 5:31:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3A837B502 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 05:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id B082E1360E; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 08:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 08:31:14 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Kimuli Abella Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make install fail - parse.y? Message-ID: <20001014083114.A49362@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Kimuli Abella , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <003401c035d9$2c6b9fc0$2ec40618@wlgrv1.pa.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <003401c035d9$2c6b9fc0$2ec40618@wlgrv1.pa.home.com>; from kabella@home.com on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:20:42AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:20:42AM -0400, Kimuli Abella wrote: > > Hi all, > > I cvsup'd REL 3-stable on a 3.4 machine using the following cvsupfile: > > ------------------------------------- > *default host=cvsup4.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs > *default tag=RELENG_3 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > > src-base > src-bin > src-etc > src-lib > src-libexec > src-sbin > src-share > src-sys > src-usrbin > src-usrsbin > *default tag=. > ports-all > ------------------------------------- a) you forget src-contrib b) why not use src-all instead (prevents these little mistakes) -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 5:53:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 200-227-201-182-as.acessonet.com.br (200-227-201-182-as.acessonet.com.br [200.227.201.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A51D37B66C for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 05:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 544 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Oct 2000 12:11:01 -0000 From: "Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 12:10:39 +0000 To: Brian Somers Cc: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newsyslog.conf error on latest stable? Message-ID: <20001014121039.A366@Fedaykin.here> References: <200010040049.e940nOs36506@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <20001003234956.A1366@Fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20001003234956.A1366@Fedaykin.here>; from lioux@Fedaykin.here on Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 11:49:34PM -0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 11:49:34PM -0200, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: > On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 01:49:02AM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > > > > This really sounds like you haven't got version 1.25.2.1 of > > newsyslog.c installed.... This was when the above format was added > > and was committed to -stable on May 19. > [elided] > /var/log/monthly.log^I^I^I640 12 * $M1D0 Z$ > System message: > > newsyslog: malformed at: > /var/log/monthly.log 640 12 * $M1D0 Z Well, Ricardo Bueno da Silva , a fellow brazilian with a similar problem, seems to have identified the source of it. He luckily had 2 similar instalations with just one of them functional. Therefore, doing a cross compare, he found out that the most noticeable difference was /etc/localtime. Just the broken one had undergone light savings (BRST). Unfortunaly, I can verify that, erasing /etc/localtime seems to do the trick. Our timezone is BRT and we are undergoing light savings (BRST). Perhaps, this information might prove useful. Does anyone else can verify that? I can't seem to find anything wrong with the zone files since all other binaries seems to be working. I can try a deeper look but I can't promise anything. I am not a zone expert. -- Mario S. F. Ferreira - UnB - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature." lioux at ( freebsd dot org | linf dot unb dot br ) flames to beloved devnull@someotherworldbeloworabove.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 5:54:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 200-227-201-182-as.acessonet.com.br (200-227-201-182-as.acessonet.com.br [200.227.201.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF3A37B502 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 05:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 544 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Oct 2000 12:11:01 -0000 From: "Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 12:10:39 +0000 To: Brian Somers Cc: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newsyslog.conf error on latest stable? Message-ID: <20001014121039.A366@Fedaykin.here> References: <200010040049.e940nOs36506@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <20001003234956.A1366@Fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20001003234956.A1366@Fedaykin.here>; from lioux@Fedaykin.here on Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 11:49:34PM -0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 11:49:34PM -0200, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: > On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 01:49:02AM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > > > > This really sounds like you haven't got version 1.25.2.1 of > > newsyslog.c installed.... This was when the above format was added > > and was committed to -stable on May 19. > [elided] > /var/log/monthly.log^I^I^I640 12 * $M1D0 Z$ > System message: > > newsyslog: malformed at: > /var/log/monthly.log 640 12 * $M1D0 Z Well, Ricardo Bueno da Silva , a fellow brazilian with a similar problem, seems to have identified the source of it. He luckily had 2 similar instalations with just one of them functional. Therefore, doing a cross compare, he found out that the most noticeable difference was /etc/localtime. Just the broken one had undergone light savings (BRST). Unfortunaly, I can verify that, erasing /etc/localtime seems to do the trick. Our timezone is BRT and we are undergoing light savings (BRST). Perhaps, this information might prove useful. Does anyone else can verify that? I can't seem to find anything wrong with the zone files since all other binaries seems to be working. I can try a deeper look but I can't promise anything. I am not a zone expert. -- Mario S. F. Ferreira - UnB - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature." lioux at ( freebsd dot org | linf dot unb dot br ) flames to beloved devnull@someotherworldbeloworabove.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 5:56:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ponzi.oit.umass.edu (mailhub.oit.umass.edu [128.119.166.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D6A37B676 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 05:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by ponzi.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #38130) id <0G2F00L017WUIB@ponzi.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 08:55:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wilde.oit.umass.edu (wilde.oit.umass.edu [128.119.166.168]) by ponzi.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #38130) with ESMTP id <0G2F00JG97WUZK@ponzi.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 08:55:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (gp@localhost) by wilde.oit.umass.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24841 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 08:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 08:56:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Pavelcak Subject: Linksys Etherfast and Brooktree Conflict? X-Sender: gp@wilde.oit.umass.edu To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Authentication-warning: wilde.oit.umass.edu: gp owned process doing -bs Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm posting to -stable because that's what I'm running -- supped and built a couple weeks ago -- but I don't know if the problem is particularly relevant to -stable. The problem is simple. When I put my LinkSys Etherfast in (dc0), I get no picture on my Hauppage TV Card; take it out and the card works fine. I've tried physically changing the positions of my PCI cards, but that's no help. I wonder about irqs, since my 5 pci devices seem to only use 9, 10, and 11. Some dmesg follows. Thanks. Greg pci1: at 0.0 irq 9 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 7.2 irq 10 pcm0: port 0xc400-0xc43f irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0 fxp0: port 0xc800-0xc83f mem 0xda000000-0xda0fffff,0xda100000-0xda100fff irq 11 at device 11.0 on pci0 dc0: port 0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xda101000-0xda1013ff irq 9 at device 13.0 on pci0 sym0: <895> port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xda103000-0xda103fff,0xda102000-0xda1020ff irq 9 at device 15.0 on pci0 bktr0: mem 0xda104000-0xda104fff irq 10 at device 17.0 on pci0 pci0: (vendor=0x109e, dev=0x0878) at 17.1 irq 10 atapci1: port 0xdc00-0xdcff,0xd800-0xd803,0xd400-0xd407 irq 11 at device 19.0 on pci0 atapci2: port 0xe800-0xe8ff,0xe400-0xe403,0xe000-0xe007 irq 11 at device 19.1 on pci0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 6:21:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F68537B66F for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 06:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lai-ca4b-85.ix.netcom.com [209.110.245.85]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04292; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:20:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 80954E6FA2; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 06:19:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding To: kris@citusc.usc.edu Cc: lantech@alaska.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <20001013074637.A19873@citusc.usc.edu> (kris@citusc.usc.edu) Subject: Re: Fatal Tarp in 4.1.1 References: <39E49FC7.98FCEAD4@alaska.net> <20001013074637.A19873@citusc.usc.edu> Message-Id: <20001014131945.80954E6FA2@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 06:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just another data point - I also got 2 'Fatal Trap 12 - supervisor page not present' followed by a system lockup. Both appeared to have occurred while 'dump' was backing up the system. This happened with 4.1.1 - it had never happened before this and hasn't happened since I upgraded the system to -STABLE (fingers crossed). I'll post if it happens again, I notice that there were changes made to the SCSI drivers. This is on a dual processor board with an Adaptec 7896/7897 SCSI interface. - Mike H. Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:46:37 -0700 From: kris@citusc.usc.edu Cc: Stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-RULES: lists On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 09:13:43AM -0800, Jason Neumann wrote: > Greetings, > A few days ago I received a 'Fatal Trap 12' followed by a spontaneous > reboot on 4.1.1-stable. My installed src was up to date as of Sept. 29, > 2000. A common cause of this is loading modules which are out of date with respect to the kernel you are running, e.g. the linux module which is loaded at boot. Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 6:49:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7259337B66C for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 06:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (1Cust86.tnt9.chattanooga.tn.da.uu.net [63.39.120.86]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02898; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 06:49:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:49:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Erik Trulsson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PNP > /boot/kernel.conf In-Reply-To: <20001014100939.A46715@student.uu.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Erik Trulsson wrote: > Unless I am badly mistaken you can use exactly the same syntax in > /boot/kernel.conf and boot -c so you can put the lines above (minus > prompts) in /boot/kernel.conf and it should work fine. Well, I thought I had tried this when the box was running 3.2 and had been plagued with errors :/ However, the proof is in the pudding ;-) config> pnp 1 0 enable os irq0 3 drq0 0 port0 0x2f8 config> pnp 2 0 enable os irq0 5 drq0 0 port0 0x3e8 config> q avail memory = 17395712 (16988K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0328000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc032809c. Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: BRI9411 [0x1194490a] Serial 0xb562d73a Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000] sio1: type 16550A sio1 (siopnp sn 0xb562d73a) at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa CSN 2 Vendor ID: BRI9410 [0x1094490a] Serial 0xdd877d7e Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000] sio2: type 16550A sio2 (siopnp sn 0xdd877d7e) at 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa Thanks, Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 7:59: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ponzi.oit.umass.edu (mailhub.oit.umass.edu [128.119.166.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6967C37B502 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 07:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by ponzi.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #38130) id <0G2F00201DLH4A@ponzi.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:58:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wilde.oit.umass.edu (wilde.oit.umass.edu [128.119.166.168]) by ponzi.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #38130) with ESMTP id <0G2F0013QDLHZI@ponzi.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:58:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (gp@localhost) by wilde.oit.umass.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA32014 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:58:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Pavelcak Subject: Linksys etherfast and Brooktree Conflict? X-Sender: gp@wilde.oit.umass.edu To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Authentication-warning: wilde.oit.umass.edu: gp owned process doing -bs Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry to followup my own message, but I did hit on an arrangement of cards that seems to make everyone happy. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 8:17: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.cbn.net.id (smtp4.cbn.net.id [202.158.2.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D20C37B502 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 08:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mona.viper.com (ip29-30.cbn.net.id [202.158.29.30]) by smtp4.cbn.net.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EE45350A for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 22:18:37 +0700 (JAVT) Received: (qmail 480 invoked by uid 500); 14 Oct 2000 15:12:38 -0000 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 22:12:38 +0700 From: John Indra To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Tomasz Paszkowski , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: *SOS* Can't change password on FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE Message-ID: <20001014221238.A461@indocyber.com> Mail-Followup-To: Neil Blakey-Milner , Tomasz Paszkowski , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20001014084511.A5161@indocyber.com> <20001014040142.A85930@genesis.k.pl> <20001014103208.A6204@indocyber.com> <20001014073925.A14507@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20001014073925.A14507@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 07:39:25AM +0200 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.2.5i on Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 07:39:25AM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: |try: |cd /usr/src/lib/libutil |make clean depend all install |cd /usr/src/lib/crypt Is this a typo or intentional? Cause in my system, there's only /usr/src/lib/libcrypt |make clean depend all install |cd /usr/src/secure/lib/crypt Same goes for this one, only can find /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt |make clean depend all install |cd /usr/src/usr.bin/passwd |make clean depend all install Assuming that Neil did a typo, then this solution doesn't solve the problem, at least not on my system. Are there any other solution? Have someone already contact the maintainer in charge? Thank you... |Neil Regards, John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 9:24: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nxe.de (mail.nxe.de [212.42.225.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27B037B502 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.nxe.de (8.10.2/nora-20000620) for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (envelope-from nora) id e9EGNhi25219; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:23:43 +0200 (CEST) Apparently-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:23:43 +0200 From: Nora Etukudo To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why cu i suid && sgid Message-ID: <20001014182342.A24430@mail.nxe.de> References: <20001014124428.A7367@genesis.k.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20001014124428.A7367@genesis.k.pl>; from ns88@genesis.k.pl on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 12:44:28PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 12:44:28PM +0200, Tomasz Paszkowski wrote: > $ ls -l /dev/cuaa0 > crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 28, 128 14 Paz 01:09 /dev/cuaa0 > $ ls -l /usr/bin/cu > -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp dialer 123456 7 Paz 19:45 /usr/bin/cu > > So when I plug in to machine cisco console, everyone can operate on it. > > I think that 755 will be enough for cu. Then all users but 'uucp' can't operate with 'cu' on the device owned by 'uucp'. The s-bit in the owner rights indicates that the 'cu' always operate as user 'uucp' regardless of which user it has started and therfore has the permisson for this device. May be we can talk about the reason for s-bit in the group rights. Liebe Grüße, Nora. -- nora@sappho-net.de http://www.sappho-net.de/ Lesbian Computer Networks, Finland http://www.sappho.net/ Web for Women (von Frauen, für Frauen) http://www.w4w.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 9:28:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genesis.k.pl (genesis.korbank.pl [195.117.162.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF70337B66F for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ns88@localhost) by genesis.k.pl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9EGSTx43541; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:28:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:28:29 +0200 From: Tomasz Paszkowski To: Nora Etukudo Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why cu i suid && sgid Message-ID: <20001014182829.B877@genesis.k.pl> References: <20001014124428.A7367@genesis.k.pl> <20001014182342.A24430@mail.nxe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001014182342.A24430@mail.nxe.de>; from nora@sappho-net.de on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 06:23:43PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 06:23:43PM +0200, Nora Etukudo wrote: > > Then all users but 'uucp' can't operate with 'cu' on the device owned by > 'uucp'. The s-bit in the owner rights indicates that the 'cu' always > operate as user 'uucp' regardless of which user it has started and > therfore has the permisson for this device. May be we can talk about the > reason for s-bit in the group rights. But think about the situation when you have cisco console connected to the serial port. Everyone can operate on it. -- _ _ _ _ _ / \ | | / / / \ / \ --- Tomasz Paszkowski ------------------------------ | |\ \| | \ \ |/ \||/ \| === IPv4://3575244866 === IPNg://3ffe:8010:59::2 === /_/ \__/ /_/ \_/ \_/ -------------------Powered by Brain and Keyboard --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 9:38: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nxe.de (mail.nxe.de [212.42.225.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4498837B671 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.nxe.de (8.10.2/nora-20000620) for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (envelope-from nora) id e9EGc3R26167; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:38:03 +0200 (CEST) Apparently-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:38:03 +0200 From: Nora Etukudo To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why cu i suid && sgid Message-ID: <20001014183803.A25616@mail.nxe.de> References: <20001014124428.A7367@genesis.k.pl> <20001014182342.A24430@mail.nxe.de> <20001014182829.B877@genesis.k.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20001014182829.B877@genesis.k.pl>; from ns88@genesis.k.pl on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 06:28:29PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 06:28:29PM +0200, Tomasz Paszkowski wrote: > But think about the situation when you have cisco console connected > to the serial port. Everyone can operate on it. Well, the 'cu' command is like many others in your unix -- if not to say most others -- a program of general purpose and intended for the use of several users. In your special case, you may restrict the use of 'cu' but this isn't valid for normal cases. Better is the restriction on the cisco itself. Most cisco's (if not all) can be password protected. Liebe Grüße, Nora. -- nora@sappho-net.de http://www.sappho-net.de/ Lesbian Computer Networks, Finland http://www.sappho.net/ Web for Women (von Frauen, für Frauen) http://www.w4w.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 9:54:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genesis.k.pl (genesis.korbank.pl [195.117.162.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1863437B502 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ns88@localhost) by genesis.k.pl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9EGr8s90736; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:53:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:53:08 +0200 From: Tomasz Paszkowski To: Nora Etukudo Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why cu i suid && sgid Message-ID: <20001014185308.A6049@genesis.k.pl> References: <20001014124428.A7367@genesis.k.pl> <20001014182342.A24430@mail.nxe.de> <20001014182829.B877@genesis.k.pl> <20001014183803.A25616@mail.nxe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001014183803.A25616@mail.nxe.de>; from nora@sappho-net.de on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 06:38:03PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 06:38:03PM +0200, Nora Etukudo wrote: > > Well, the 'cu' command is like many others in your unix -- if not to > say most others -- a program of general purpose and intended for the use > of several users. In your special case, you may restrict the use of 'cu' > but this isn't valid for normal cases. Better is the restriction on the > cisco itself. Most cisco's (if not all) can be password protected. I presume cisco can be password protected, but what with dialup modems connected to the server ? Now, evrytime after 'make world' I have to remember changing permisions to /dev/[cuaa*,ttyd*] devices or cu. -- _ _ _ _ _ / \ | | / / / \ / \ --- Tomasz Paszkowski ------------------------------ | |\ \| | \ \ |/ \||/ \| === IPv4://3575244866 === IPNg://3ffe:8010:59::2 === /_/ \__/ /_/ \_/ \_/ -------------------Powered by Brain and Keyboard --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 10: 9:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from piranha.amis.net (piranha.amis.net [212.18.32.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC42F37B503 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from titanic.medinet.si (titanic.medinet.si [212.18.32.66]) by piranha.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8190A5D04; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:09:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:09:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Blaz Zupan X-Sender: blaz@titanic.medinet.si To: Tomasz Paszkowski Cc: Nora Etukudo , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why cu i suid && sgid In-Reply-To: <20001014185308.A6049@genesis.k.pl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I presume cisco can be password protected, but what with dialup modems > connected to the server ? Now, evrytime after 'make world' I have to > remember changing permisions to /dev/[cuaa*,ttyd*] devices or cu. Change /dev/MAKEDEV.local so that it modifies the permissions like you want them to be. BTW, make world does not change the devices in /dev in any way, if you don't run /dev/MAKEDEV. Blaz Zupan, Medinet d.o.o, Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia E-mail: blaz@amis.net, Tel: +386-2-320-6320, Fax: +386-2-320-6325 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 10:14: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genesis.k.pl (genesis.korbank.pl [195.117.162.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F2537B66E for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ns88@localhost) by genesis.k.pl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9EHDgA82197; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:13:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:13:42 +0200 From: Tomasz Paszkowski To: Blaz Zupan Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why cu i suid && sgid Message-ID: <20001014191342.A39567@genesis.k.pl> References: <20001014185308.A6049@genesis.k.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from blaz@amis.net on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 07:09:15PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 07:09:15PM +0200, Blaz Zupan wrote: > > Change /dev/MAKEDEV.local so that it modifies the permissions like you want > them to be. BTW, make world does not change the devices in /dev in any way, if > you don't run /dev/MAKEDEV. But cd /sys/etc ; make distribution do. -- _ _ _ _ _ / \ | | / / / \ / \ --- Tomasz Paszkowski ------------------------------ | |\ \| | \ \ |/ \||/ \| === IPv4://3575244866 === IPNg://3ffe:8010:59::2 === /_/ \__/ /_/ \_/ \_/ -------------------Powered by Brain and Keyboard --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 10:24:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C581937B66C for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D16EB1C41; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:24:40 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Tomasz Paszkowski Cc: Blaz Zupan , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why cu i suid && sgid Message-ID: <20001014132440.E37870@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <20001014185308.A6049@genesis.k.pl> <20001014191342.A39567@genesis.k.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20001014191342.A39567@genesis.k.pl>; from ns88@genesis.k.pl on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 07:13:42PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 07:13:42PM +0200, Tomasz Paszkowski wrote: > > Change /dev/MAKEDEV.local so that it modifies the permissions like you want > > them to be. BTW, make world does not change the devices in /dev in any way, if > > you don't run /dev/MAKEDEV. > > But cd /sys/etc ; make distribution do. Thankfully that's not the way we suggest you upgrade you /etc/*. You might want to check into every piece of documentation that refers to mergemaster. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 11:43:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731CE37B66D; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15819; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9EIhdB37093; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:43:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) From: Gary Kline Message-Id: <200010141843.e9EIhdB37093@thought.org> Subject: how noe Brown Ports! To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Ports) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Organization: <> thought.org: pvblic service Unix since 1986... <> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, it bit me, even tho I'm upgraded to 4.1 on both FBSD platforms. Trying to do a make install of a port, I get:: # make install Error: your port uses an old layout. Please update it to match this bsd.port.mk. *** Error code 1 I see the new pkg-* files and have removed the old pkg/ directory, but still bump into the same error. I missed something in the ports- or stable- lists, just not sure what.... gary -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 11:50:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29DB37B66E; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 4C8A71360F; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 14:50:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 14:50:10 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Gary Kline Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: how noe Brown Ports! Message-ID: <20001014145009.C97358@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Gary Kline , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD Ports References: <200010141843.e9EIhdB37093@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010141843.e9EIhdB37093@thought.org>; from kline@thought.org on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 11:43:37AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 11:43:37AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Well, it bit me, even tho I'm upgraded to 4.1 on both FBSD platforms. > Trying to do a make install of a port, I get:: > > # make install > Error: your port uses an old layout. Please update it to match this bsd.port.mk. > *** Error code 1 > > I see the new pkg-* files and have removed the old pkg/ directory, but > still bump into the same error. I missed something in the ports- or > stable- lists, just not sure what.... > Do what it says. Update bsd.port.mk (use ports-all or ports-base in your supfile). -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 12:15:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fat.ti.ru (fat.ti.ru [212.1.224.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593E237B66D for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 12:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Martin (hilldale.kurgan.ru [212.1.224.61]) by fat.ti.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69029D95E; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 23:15:24 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 23:15:26 +0400 From: Martin McFlySr X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46d) Business Reply-To: Martin McFlySr Organization: Back To The Future X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <474281546.20001014231526@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> To: Chris Faulhaber Cc: FreeBSD-Stable LIST Subject: Re[2]: how noe Brown Ports! In-reply-To: <20001014145009.C97358@peitho.fxp.org> References: <200010141843.e9EIhdB37093@thought.org> <20001014145009.C97358@peitho.fxp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Chris Faulhaber, Saturday, October 14, 2000, 22:50:10, you wrote: >> # make install >> Error: your port uses an old layout. Please update it to match this bsd.port.mk. >> *** Error code 1 >> I see the new pkg-* files and have removed the old pkg/ directory, but >> still bump into the same error. I missed something in the ports- or >> stable- lists, just not sure what.... CF> Do what it says. Update bsd.port.mk (use ports-all or ports-base in your CF> supfile). i'm, updating my bsd.port.mk, (manually, and via cvsup), but still have a "Error: your port uses an old layout. Please update it to match this bsd.port.mk." message :(( What must i do for fix this? ls -ls /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk 95 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 97247 Oct 8 15:43 bsd.port.mk thank you, -- Saturday, October 14, 2000, 23:08 Best regards from future, Martin McFlySr, HillDale. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 12:50:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.teliauk.com (mailhub.teliauk.com [195.12.225.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2B637B670; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 12:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d1o314.teliauk.com (root@d1o314.teliauk.com [195.12.237.81]) by mailhub.teliauk.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e9EJntA04136; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:49:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from vilnya.demon.co.uk (t1o315p47.teliauk.com [195.12.242.47]) by d1o314.teliauk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02159; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:49:47 +0100 (GMT/BST) Received: from haveblue (haveblue.rings [10.2.4.5]) by vilnya.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CC0ED9A8; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:49:45 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <003201c03617$f7603900$0504020a@haveblue> From: "Cameron Grant" To: "j mckitrick" , "Dolgan" Cc: , References: <20001010012905.A3426@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20001013214153.A1670@home.com> <20001014132123.A69191@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Subject: Re: sound problems under 4.1.1 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:50:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG are you using a sblive? if so, cvsup. if not, what card are you using? -cg ----- Original Message ----- From: "j mckitrick" To: "Dolgan" Cc: ; Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 1:21 PM Subject: Re: sound problems under 4.1.1 > On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 09:41:53PM -0700, Dolgan wrote: > | Have you found a solution to this problem yet? > > No. Actually it just got worse. Now even the basic audio device doesn't > work. I was deleting and remaking devices in an effort to get them working, > and now none of my sound works at all. :( > > | I just upgraded to 4.1.1-STABLE from 4.1.1-RELEASE and am experiencing > | the same thing... > | > | 10/10/00 02:29 +0200 - j mckitrick: > | > > | >I tried 'play' after upgrading to 4.1.1 and running MAKEDEV, and it doesn't > | >mork. The error message is '/dev/dsp: invalid argument'. I tried deleting > | >and remaking the snd and snd0 nodes, which by the way complains about mixer > | >being an invalid node, but somehow I got that working. > | > > | >I was using play to play a .wav, if it matters. Catting a .au file works > | >fine. > | > > | >jcm > | >-- > | >"I drank WHAT ?!" - Socrates > | > > | > > | >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > | >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > | > > | > | -- > | (PGP public key: keyservers/0114B12B) > > > > > jcm > -- > "I drank WHAT ?!" - Socrates > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 13:51: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6904837B502; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17157; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9EKonP37941; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:50:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:50:48 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Chris Faulhaber , Gary Kline , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: how noe Brown Ports! Message-ID: <20001014135048.B37098@tao.thought.org> References: <200010141843.e9EIhdB37093@thought.org> <20001014145009.C97358@peitho.fxp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20001014145009.C97358@peitho.fxp.org>; from jedgar@fxp.org on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 02:50:10PM -0400 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 02:50:10PM -0400, Chris Faulhaber wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 11:43:37AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > Well, it bit me, even tho I'm upgraded to 4.1 on both FBSD platforms. > > Trying to do a make install of a port, I get:: > > > > # make install > > Error: your port uses an old layout. Please update it to match this bsd.port.mk. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > I see the new pkg-* files and have removed the old pkg/ directory, but > > still bump into the same error. I missed something in the ports- or > > stable- lists, just not sure what.... > > > > Do what it says. Update bsd.port.mk (use ports-all or ports-base in your > supfile). > I have cvsup cron'd to run 3 times a week and find this: 190 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 97247 Oct 13 21:50 bsd.port.mk in /usr/ports/Mk. I see that in /usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk, it points at (.includes) the newest bsd.port.mk. Why isn't the mk file seeing this? Until now ports has worked fairly automagically... . gary -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 13:54:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fat.ti.ru (fat.ti.ru [212.1.224.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB4737B66C for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Martin (hilldale.kurgan.ru [212.1.224.61]) by fat.ti.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A9ED924 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:54:42 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:54:46 +0400 From: Martin McFlySr X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46d) Business Reply-To: Martin McFlySr Organization: Back To The Future X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13110241316.20001015005446@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> To: FreeBSD-Stable LIST Subject: Error: your port uses an old layout. Please update it to match this bsd.port.mk. - SOLVED Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello FreeBSD-Stable LIST, uname -a: FreeBSD 3.5S And now, we have a "Error: your port uses an old layout. Please update it to match this bsd.port.mk." error. let we want compile /sysutils/pwgen (depends on /devel/libgnugetopt) look into /devel/libgnugetopt 1 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Oct 10 08:26 CVS 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 601 Jun 29 06:31 Makefile 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 65 May 7 1999 distinfo 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Oct 10 08:26 patches 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Oct 10 08:26 pkg 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 19 Jun 26 1999 pkg-comment 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 124 May 3 1999 pkg-descr 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 59 Jun 16 12:47 pkg-plist look into /devel/libgnugetopt on other machine: 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 601 Jun 29 06:31 Makefile 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 65 May 7 1999 distinfo 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 19 Jun 26 1999 pkg-comment 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 124 May 3 1999 pkg-descr 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 59 Jun 16 12:47 pkg-plist hhhm...... may be, CVS, pathes, pkg subdirs are not need? deleting its... run 'make' OOPS! It RUN!! Nice! 1. If you have a "Error: your port uses an old layout. Please update it to match this bsd.port.mk." error, check CVS, pathes, pkg subdirectories - they are not need, deleting. Next question: Machine1 /sysutils/pwgen/Makefile: PORTNAME= pwgen PORTVERSION= 1.15 CATEGORIES= sysutils MASTER_SITES= http://www.tricknology.org/ports/ MAINTAINER= oddbjorn@tricknology.org BUILD_DEPENDS= ${LOCALBASE}/include/getopt.h:${PORTSDIR}/devel/libgnugetopt MAN1= pwgen.1 WRKSRC= ${WRKDIR}/pwgen-1 .include Machine2 /sysutils/pwgen/Makefile: PORTNAME= pwgen PORTVERSION= 1.15 CATEGORIES= sysutils MASTER_SITES= http://www.tricknology.org/ports/ MAINTAINER= oddbjorn@tricknology.org LIB_DEPENDS= getopt.1:${PORTSDIR}/devel/libgnugetopt WRKSRC= ${WRKDIR}/${PORTNAME}-1 MAN1= pwgen.1 .include diff: >BUILD_DEPENDS= ${LOCALBASE}/include/getopt.h:${PORTSDIR}/devel/libgnugetopt Extracting for pwgen-1.15 >> Checksum OK for pwgen-1.15.tar.gz. ===> pwgen-1.15 depends on file: /usr/local/include/getopt.h - found ===> Patching for pwgen-1.15 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for pwgen-1.15 ===> Configuring for pwgen-1.15 ===> Building for pwgen-1.15 cc -O -pipe -I/usr/local/include -DALLBYOPTS -DRAND48 -DDEBIAN -c -o pwgen.o pwg en.c cc -L/usr/local/lib -o pwgen pwgen.o -lm -lgnugetopt OK, nice.... then run 'make' in machine 2: #pwd /usr/ports/sysutils/pwgen #make ===> Extracting for pwgen-1.15 >> Checksum OK for pwgen-1.15.tar.gz. ===> pwgen-1.15 depends on shared library: getopt.1 - not found ===> Verifying install for getopt.1 in /usr/ports/devel/libgnugetopt ===> Returning to build of pwgen-1.15 Error: shared library "getopt.1" does not exist *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Bad :(( Machine1: #find /usr -name "getopt.1" -print /usr/src/usr.bin/getopt/getopt.1 #find /usr -name "getopt.h" -print /usr/local/include/getopt.h 5 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 4558 Oct 14 23:35 /usr/local/include/getopt.h 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3301 Mar 6 2000 /usr/src/usr.bin/getopt/getopt.1 Machine2: SOME.... And what??? What we are must do for fix? Thank you, -- Saturday, October 14, 2000, 23:40 Best regards from future, Martin McFlySr, HillDale. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 13:55:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c169507-b.sttln1.wa.home.com (c169507-b.sttln1.wa.home.com [24.11.173.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB42C37B66C; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dolgan by c169507-b.sttln1.wa.home.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13kYKe-000130-00; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:55:04 -0700 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:55:04 -0700 From: Dolgan To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: No Bass/Treble Control? Message-ID: <20001014135504.A3982@home.com> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE X-PGP-Id: DSA ID 0114B12B X-PGP-Key: Available at keyservers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a Sound Blaster Live! Value with FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE, but yet I cannot change my bass and treble levels. This problem has persisted in all FreeBSS versions since 4.0-RELEASE, and in Linux. Other people do *not* have this problem, so it must be something I am doing wrong. When I do 'mixer,' I get only: Mixer vol is currently set to 100:100 Mixer pcm is currently set to 72:72 Mixer speaker is currently set to 0:0 Mixer line is currently set to 0:0 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer cd is currently set to 0:0 Mixer rec is currently set to 0:0 Mixer line1 is currently set to 0:0 Mixer phin is currently set to 0:0 Mixer phout is currently set to 0:0 Mixer video is currently set to 0:0 Note there is no bass or treble. It works in Windows, always has. In /dev, I did ./MAKEDEV snd0. When I do ./MAKEDEV snd1 as I have been told, it simply reports that the device is not configured. Any ideas? --=20 "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."=20 -- Albert Einstein (PGP public key: keyservers/0114B12B) --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjnoyCgACgkQO3Z0rAEUsSuNNQCglP7HvRBwUDRqvhjDob/mafNE /rQAnj1cusxumg4QK0YUSmuubcKUD9bK =KS0l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 14: 1:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from d1o93.telia.com (d1o93.telia.com [194.17.166.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED48437B503 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 14:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vaticide (h5fls4o93flexi.telia.com [62.20.226.5]) by d1o93.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA14344; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 23:30:45 +0200 (CEST) From: "Johan Huldtgren" To: "John Indra" , Subject: RE: *SOS* Can't change password on FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 23:01:15 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-Reply-To: <20001014084511.A5161@indocyber.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have a FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE system that had been running great for days. > After I upgrade it to FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE (2000-10-11), I can't change any > user's password! *sigh* > I have no problem like this before going to 4.1.1-STABLE as stated. > > # passwd root > Changing local password for root. > New password: > Retype new password: > passwd: cannot set password cipher: Undefined error: 0 > passwd: /etc/master.passwd: unchanged > > What's wrong here? The whole kernel and userland upgrade seems to go fine > without a problem. Anyone having the same symptoms? Just to fill in, I have exactly the same symptom on my machine 4.1.1-Stable built on October 6th. I'm gonna try the soloution posted by Neil now, and report back in case of success. - Johan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 14:13:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fat.ti.ru (fat.ti.ru [212.1.224.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8B337B503 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 14:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Martin (hilldale.kurgan.ru [212.1.224.61]) by fat.ti.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7929D924; Sun, 15 Oct 2000 01:13:21 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 01:13:26 +0400 From: Martin McFlySr X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46d) Business Reply-To: Martin McFlySr Organization: Back To The Future X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <8611360916.20001015011326@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> To: Gary Kline Cc: FreeBSD-Stable LIST Subject: Re[2]: how noe Brown Ports! In-reply-To: <20001014135048.B37098@tao.thought.org> References: <200010141843.e9EIhdB37093@thought.org> <20001014145009.C97358@peitho.fxp.org> <20001014135048.B37098@tao.thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Gary Kline, Sunday, October 15, 2000, 0:50:48, you wrote: GK> I have cvsup cron'd to run 3 times a week and find this: GK> 190 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 97247 Oct 13 21:50 bsd.port.mk GK> in /usr/ports/Mk. I see that in /usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk, it GK> points at (.includes) the newest bsd.port.mk. Why isn't the GK> mk file seeing this? Until now ports has worked fairly GK> automagically... . try delete CVS patches pkg subdirectories and run 'make' again ? -- Sunday, October 15, 2000, 1:12 Best regards from future, Martin McFlySr, HillDale. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 15:39:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citusc17.usc.edu (citusc17.usc.edu [128.125.38.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5DE37B66E for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kris@localhost) by citusc17.usc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13999; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:41:31 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Glen Gross Cc: "'Vivek Khera'" , "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: turning off rcmd is premature Message-ID: <20001014154131.E13848@citusc17.usc.edu> References: <01C0351A.45CBF470.ggross@symark.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01C0351A.45CBF470.ggross@symark.com>; from ggross@symark.com on Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 01:34:11PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 01:34:11PM -0700, Glen Gross wrote: > >From a non-programmer's standpoint, I also agree that turning off rshd is > premature. The strength of UNIX is traditionally in the fact that it is an > open system. > Excessive zeal to make it secure also makes it less functional, and this is a > delicate balance. Many people will just consider the OS "broken" > if basic functionality is not there. This kind of thing will probably just No basic functionality has been lost. The r* family of commands are still there, they still work as before, and they are still appropriate for some environments (e.g. Kerberos). Removing 1 character from inetd.conf and typing "kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid`" is all thats required to enable a service again for your system, if you're one of those people who need or want to use one of them. Thats not a big task. Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 15:41:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citusc17.usc.edu (citusc17.usc.edu [128.125.38.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50CB37B503; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kris@localhost) by citusc17.usc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14007; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:43:19 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: John Indra Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, green@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: *SOS* Can't change password on FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE Message-ID: <20001014154319.F13848@citusc17.usc.edu> References: <20001014084511.A5161@indocyber.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001014084511.A5161@indocyber.com>; from john@indocyber.com on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:45:11AM +0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:45:11AM +0700, John Indra wrote: > What's wrong here? The whole kernel and userland upgrade seems to go fine > without a problem. Anyone having the same symptoms? I believe it's a known problem - Brian Feldman was supposed to add an erratum entry about it. Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 16:14:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED0637B66C for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 936C11360E; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:14:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:14:47 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Martin McFlySr Cc: FreeBSD-Stable LIST Subject: Re: how noe Brown Ports! Message-ID: <20001014191447.A89840@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Martin McFlySr , FreeBSD-Stable LIST References: <200010141843.e9EIhdB37093@thought.org> <20001014145009.C97358@peitho.fxp.org> <474281546.20001014231526@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <474281546.20001014231526@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru>; from Martin@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 11:15:26PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 11:15:26PM +0400, Martin McFlySr wrote: > i'm, updating my bsd.port.mk, (manually, and via cvsup), but still have a > "Error: your port uses an old layout. Please update it to match this > bsd.port.mk." message :(( What must i do for fix this? > > ls -ls /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > 95 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 97247 Oct 8 15:43 bsd.port.mk > ummm, can you give us an idea of which port(s) is failing? -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 16:30: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F8537B66C for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18552; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9ENTlx39475; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:29:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:29:46 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Martin McFlySr Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD-Stable LIST Subject: Re: how noe Brown Ports! Message-ID: <20001014162946.B38236@tao.thought.org> References: <200010141843.e9EIhdB37093@thought.org> <20001014145009.C97358@peitho.fxp.org> <20001014135048.B37098@tao.thought.org> <8611360916.20001015011326@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <8611360916.20001015011326@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru>; from Martin@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru on Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 01:13:26AM +0400 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 01:13:26AM +0400, Martin McFlySr wrote: > Hello Gary Kline, > > Sunday, October 15, 2000, 0:50:48, you wrote: > > > > GK> I have cvsup cron'd to run 3 times a week and find this: > GK> 190 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 97247 Oct 13 21:50 bsd.port.mk > GK> in /usr/ports/Mk. I see that in /usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk, it > GK> points at (.includes) the newest bsd.port.mk. Why isn't the > GK> mk file seeing this? Until now ports has worked fairly > GK> automagically... . > try delete > > CVS > patches > pkg > > subdirectories and run 'make' again ? > > Thanks much; at least I was on the right track in rm -rf pkg... Leaving CVS/ seems safe. gary > -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 17: 3: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (207-167-15-66.dsl.worldgate.ca [207.167.15.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB31B37B502 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 17:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id e9F02hA01312; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:02:44 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:02:43 -0600 (MDT) From: Lyndon Nerenberg X-Sender: lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca To: Jason Neumann Cc: Stable Subject: Re: cvsup status In-Reply-To: <39E75F17.9F391BE6@alaska.net> Message-ID: Organization: The Frobozz Magic Homing Pigeon Company MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Jason Neumann wrote: > Can anyone recommend a mirror for cvs. I have been using > cvsup1.freebsd.org, but it seems to have been perpetually busy for about > a week (too many users). I used to cvsup daily at 2:00am as part of my > daily.local, but I haven't had much luck getting on (day or night). Start by running some pings and traceroutes against cvsup*.freebsd.org. Sort by latency and hop-count and try them in order. If one busies out regularly, go to the next one on the list. Repeat until you find one that you're happy with. You can also try adjusting when cron runs the cvsup job. Since network topography is more important than geographical location people in the US might also want to include the Canadian mirrors {cvsup,cvsup2}.ca.freebsd.org in the list of candidates. (And vice versa. For example, I'm located in Edmonton, Alberta. From a network standpoint the west coast of the US is almost always "closer" to me than, say, Toronto, is.) --lyndon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 17:31:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peloton.runet.edu (peloton.runet.edu [137.45.96.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F1D37B503; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 17:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.runet.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA07233; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:31:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:31:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Taylor To: Chris Faulhaber Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: how noe Brown Ports! In-Reply-To: <20001014145009.C97358@peitho.fxp.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Chris Faulhaber wrote: > Do what it says. Update bsd.port.mk (use ports-all or ports-base in > your supfile). This does NOT necessarily work - I cvsup ports-all and I was bit by the same thing. I know in CVS you can use the -P switch to kill the empty directories, but is there an equivalent switch or way to do this w/ CVSup? It sure isn't the -P switch which controls TCP connections. Barring that a simple: cd /usr/ports && rm -rf */*/patches/ && rm -rf */*/pkg/ will take care of things. Brett ----- "What am I on? I'm on my bike, busting my ass 6 hours a day." - Lance Armstrong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 19: 5:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.cbn.net.id (smtp2.cbn.net.id [202.158.2.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A166037B66E for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mona.viper.com (ip25-54.cbn.net.id [202.158.25.54]) by smtp2.cbn.net.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1705353D for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2000 09:06:25 +0700 (JAVT) Received: (qmail 7965 invoked by uid 500); 15 Oct 2000 02:02:04 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 09:02:04 +0700 From: John Indra To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, green@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: *SOS* Can't change password on FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE Message-ID: <20001015090204.B7779@indocyber.com> Mail-Followup-To: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, green@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001014084511.A5161@indocyber.com> <20001014154319.F13848@citusc17.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20001014154319.F13848@citusc17.usc.edu>; from kris@citusc.usc.edu on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 03:43:19PM -0700 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.2.5i on Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 03:43:19PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: |I believe it's a known problem - Brian Feldman was supposed to add an |erratum entry about it. OK... Gees... unlucky me ;) Oct 13th 2000 was my last day in my company (Indocyber). I went upgrading to 4.1.1-STABLE just 2 days before my last day. I thought I'll leave a ``brand new'' system for my old company as a farewell gift. Unfortunately, on the last day, when I need to pass my machine to my assistant, I can't change the root password, oh darn... Well, thanks for all who have been paying attention to this problem. Could there be a ``HEADS UP'' when this problem has been solved? Thank you... |Kris Regards, John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 20:57:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.cray.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E329237B66C; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19599; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9F1enI40349; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:40:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:40:48 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Brett Taylor Cc: Chris Faulhaber , Gary Kline , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: how noe Brown Ports! Message-ID: <20001014184048.B40211@tao.thought.org> References: <20001014145009.C97358@peitho.fxp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from brett@peloton.runet.edu on Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:31:02PM -0400 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:31:02PM -0400, Brett Taylor wrote: > Hi > > On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Chris Faulhaber wrote: > > > Do what it says. Update bsd.port.mk (use ports-all or ports-base in > > your supfile). > > This does NOT necessarily work - I cvsup ports-all and I was bit by the > same thing. I know in CVS you can use the -P switch to kill the empty > directories, but is there an equivalent switch or way to do this w/ CVSup? > It sure isn't the -P switch which controls TCP connections. > > Barring that a simple: > > cd /usr/ports && rm -rf */*/patches/ && rm -rf */*/pkg/ > > will take care of things. > Hm, I remember that line from one of your earlier posts, Brett. I just wasn't aware of the context.... Myself, being more than a bit paranoid, would opt for find /usr/port <&c> commands... , then re-cvsup'ing just-in-case the find -exec /bin/rm -rf blew away something incorrectly. ( I do believe in daemons, you know :) Suggest to avoid fellow stragglers from similar head-scratching, we might want to post a Heads-Up to -questions; plus -stable. gary -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 21:19:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blues.jpj.net (blues.jpj.net [204.97.17.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068A337B66C; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 21:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (trevor@localhost) by blues.jpj.net (right/backatcha) with ESMTP id e9F4IrL02002; Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:18:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:18:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Trevor Johnson To: Gary Kline Cc: Brett Taylor , Chris Faulhaber , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: how noe Brown Ports! In-Reply-To: <20001014184048.B40211@tao.thought.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gary Kline wrote: > Hm, I remember that line from one of your earlier posts, > Brett. I just wasn't aware of the context.... > Myself, being more than a bit paranoid, would > opt for find /usr/port <&c> commands... , then re-cvsup'ing > just-in-case the find -exec /bin/rm -rf blew away something > incorrectly. ( I do believe in daemons, you know :) > > Suggest to avoid fellow stragglers from similar head-scratching, > we might want to post a Heads-Up to -questions; plus -stable. I submitted a small patch to bsd.port.mk to make it check for pkg/DESCR rather than the (possibly empty) pkg/ and patches/ directories. It's not going into the official bsd.port.mk, but you can put it in your own. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21885 -- Trevor Johnson http://jpj.net/~trevor/gpgkey.txt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 14 23:42:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2568D37B502 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 23:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9F6gln39697; Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:42:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA91725; Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:42:47 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010150642.AAA91725@harmony.village.org> To: Vivek Khera Subject: Re: turning off rcmd is premature Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:24:32 EDT." <14823.28544.576629.49007@onceler.kciLink.com> References: <14823.28544.576629.49007@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:42:47 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <14823.28544.576629.49007@onceler.kciLink.com> Vivek Khera writes: : From where I sit, at least one more thing needs to be updated to allow : using ssh before rcmd can be turned off. That is rmt. As it : stands, new installs by default will not be able to do remote dumps : properly until rshd is enabled in both inetd.conf and pam.conf. If : rmt supported ssh as a transport (apparently OpenBSD's version does), : then it would make sense to turn off rshd totally. I'll have to commit my port of the OpenBSD stuff to -current. I agree that the MFC might have been a bit premature, but am not enough annoyed by it myself to ask for it to be reverted. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message