From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Nov 11 6:14:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C0B37B405 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 06:14:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (lxpx237.lx.ehu.es [158.227.26.137]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fABEENj04371 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:14:24 +0100 (MET) Received: (from jose@localhost) by v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fABECAe00481 for hardware@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:12:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jose) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:12:09 +0100 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: requesting opinions about strange 3ware problem Message-ID: <20011111151209.A319@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Warning: this is a long message. At the end of past July, I installed a 3ware Escalade 7410 RAID controller with four IBM DTLA-307075 (75 GB) disks attached in RAID-5 configuration. Everything worked fine for two months, until I installed the new version of the 3dm utility (I did not installed it before, because its previous version did not support the Escalade 7xxx series). Once 3dm was installed everything looked OK. However, some hours later (at 3:02 AM), an error was detected in one of the ports of the RAID unit ("drive error... check for cables or media errors". I rebooted the system, entered the 3ware BIOS and started a rebuild of the RAID-5 unit, which was completed about two or three hours later. I don't believe on casuality, so I suspected (and I still suspect) that the 3dm utility "did something" that triggered the error. Two or three days later, _also_ at 3:02 AM, an error (same type) was detected again, but this time on another port/drive. Very strange. I rebuilt the unit again and disabled 3dm, and I also updated the firmware of the Escalade 7410 (BTW, after updating the firmware the rebuilds were significantly faster - about 45'). After two weeks without detecting any error I was convinced that the problem was "dissolved", but unfortunately it happened again, _also_ at 3:02 AM. Obviously the time is a key datum: at 3:00 cron starts the "periodic daily" script, which in turn runs /etc/security. This script does a find(1) in filesystems mounted without the "nosuid" flag. However, the filesystem residing in the twed0 device is mounted with nosuid, so that /etc/security does not access the RAID-5 unit. The other filesystems (/, /var, /usr) reside in an ATA disk (ad0). The symptom is that a high number of tps with the ATA disks triggers the error in the RAID-5. Weird. The system is based on a Gigabyte GA-7ZX motherboard, which uses the VIA KT133 chipset. I read several messages talking about a bug in the BIOS initialization of the 686B south bridge, which can cause data corruption of PCI transfers. Maybe this bug could be related to my problem, but then... why did the errors started to happen just after I installed 3dm? I also suspected of a power problem, so that I installed a new power supply (a PC Power&Cooling Turbo-Cool 450ATX), to no avail: the RAID errors continue. I am really desperate, so I will be thankful for any opinions, ideas, suggestions... Thanks in advance JMA -- ****** Jose M. Alcaide // jose@we.lc.ehu.es // jmas@FreeBSD.org ****** ** "Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers" -- Leonard Brandwein ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Nov 11 12:39:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from blotto.phreak.net (blotto.phreak.net [207.250.188.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE8E37B405 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:39:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from phreak.net (localhost.phreak.net [127.0.0.1]) by blotto.phreak.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E4F5189501; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:39:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from 65.25.176.231 (SquirrelMail authenticated user operator) by mail.phreak.net with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:39:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4135.65.25.176.231.1005511192.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:39:52 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: requesting opinions about strange 3ware problem From: "Steve Kaczkowski" To: jose@we.lc.ehu.es In-Reply-To: <20011111151209.A319@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> References: <20011111151209.A319@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.0.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Warning: this is a long message. > > At the end of past July, I installed a 3ware Escalade 7410 RAID > controller with four IBM DTLA-307075 (75 GB) disks attached in RAID-5 > configuration. Everything worked fine for two months, until I installed > the new version of the 3dm utility (I did not installed it before, > because its previous version did not support the Escalade 7xxx series). > Once 3dm was installed everything looked OK. However, some hours later > (at 3:02 AM), an error was detected in one of the ports of the RAID > unit ("drive error... check for cables or media errors". I rebooted the > system, entered the 3ware BIOS and started a rebuild of the RAID-5 > unit, which was completed about two or three hours later. I don't > believe on casuality, so I suspected (and I still suspect) that the 3dm > utility "did something" that triggered the error. > ... All sorts of stuff deleted ... If I'm not mistaken *all* of the 75GXPs have problems with corruption due to how tightly they're packing the data on the platters.. Do some searching on google or storagereview.com, I'm sure you'll find a whole bunch of info.. And of course IBM doesn't care to admit to anything Regards, -- Steve Kaczkowski operator@phreak.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 12 3:21:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from admin4.dircon.net (admin4.dircon.net [195.157.2.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C4C37B41C for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 03:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tdcmb2@localhost) by admin4.dircon.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fACBJ2982239; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:19:02 GMT (envelope-from tdcmb2) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:19:02 +0000 From: Mark Blackman To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Cc: grog@lemis.com Subject: Megaraid Express interferes with reboot Message-ID: <20011112111902.A82212@admin4.dircon.net> References: <200111081304.NAA77699@mailhost2.dircon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111081304.NAA77699@mailhost2.dircon.co.uk>; from mark.blackman@netscalibur.co.uk on Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 01:04:44PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For anyone who is interested. This is actually caused by the presence of a Megaraid Express 500 [475] adapter. Removing the adapter allows the system to reboot normally. I've got no idea how the Megaraid Express 500 gets in the way though. Any ideas? Regards, Mark On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 01:04:44PM +0000, Mark Blackman wrote: > I've got a GA-6VTXDR-C motherboard with 1GHz pentium and > 1Gig of RAM. > > (http://networking.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Products_ServerBoard_Spec.asp?ProductID=20) > > This uses the Via Apollo Pro Family AGP Set > (North Bridge VT82C694T, South Bridge VT82C686B) > > I've been attempting to reboot this machine via the "/sbin/reboot" > executable. In all the cases I've tried, the full shutdown messages > occur, followed by the "Rebooting" output. After putting this line > to the screen, the machine fails to do anything (for 30 seconds and > more). Reboot is then achieved only with a hard reset or power cycle. > > I've tried CURRENT (cvsup today) and STABLE (cvsup yesterday) and > they both have this behaviour. > > 4.4-STABLE-yesterday > (GENERIC without BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET) - hangs after "Rebooting" > > 4.4-STABLE-yesterday > (GENERICE with BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET) - hangs after "Rebooting" > > 5.0-CURRENT-today > (without BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET) - hangs after "Rebooting" > > 5.0-CURRENT-today > (with BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET) - drops into debugger with > double panic after ~5 sec. > > FWIW, Redhat 7.2 does reboot the machine. My reading of the Linux > kernel code suggests that Linux puts the machine into 8086 emulation > mode (real mode) and then calls the BIOS reboot. > > I have 3 identical spec. machines which all exhibit this behaviour. > > Can anyone suggest any other options for forcing a reboot and what > does this imply about the way this hardware works? > > - Mark > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 12 15:20:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from happy.cow.org (happy.cow.org [198.88.20.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF1037B418; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ravi@localhost) by happy.cow.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) id fACNHkA33819; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:17:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:17:46 -0500 From: ravi pina To: Steve Kaczkowski Cc: jose@we.lc.ehu.es, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, b.j.smith@ieee.org, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: requesting opinions about strange 3ware problem Message-ID: <20011112181746.D2155@happy.cow.org> Reply-To: ravi@cow.org References: <20011111151209.A319@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> <4135.65.25.176.231.1005511192.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4135.65.25.176.231.1005511192.squirrel@mail.phreak.net>; from operator@phreak.net on Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 02:39:52PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 02:39:52PM -0600, Steve Kaczkowski said at one point in time: > > If I'm not mistaken *all* of the 75GXPs have problems with corruption due > to how tightly they're packing the data on the platters.. > > Do some searching on google or storagereview.com, I'm sure you'll find a > whole bunch of info.. [...] charming. i just turned up a identical setup as jose: 4x ibm dtla-307075 in a raid 5 using the 3ware 7410. i will let you know if i start getting any errors. i notice that the Promise SuperTrack is not yet supported. will it be soon? and along those lines, bj's run down of the available ide raid cards was very helpfull, however can someone give a "bottom line" answer of which is better? having the 3ware card now and hearing how the ibm disk are prone to failure, i cannot help but to think that i have gotten ALL of the wrong hardware :) someone want to reassure me that i didn't just spend money on lots of book ends? -r -- echo "send pgp key" | mail ravi@cow.org "god bless ambient electronica. it and classical music are the only two things that keep the voices in my head from actually making me kill." -- me To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 12 15:22:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A914037B405 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:22:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fACNORn04085; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:24:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200111122324.fACNORn04085@mass.dis.org> To: ravi@cow.org Cc: Steve Kaczkowski , jose@we.lc.ehu.es, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, b.j.smith@ieee.org Subject: Re: requesting opinions about strange 3ware problem In-Reply-To: Message from ravi pina of "Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:17:46 EST." <20011112181746.D2155@happy.cow.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:24:27 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > having the 3ware card now and hearing how the ibm disk > are prone to failure, i cannot help but to think that i > have gotten ALL of the wrong hardware :) someone want > to reassure me that i didn't just spend money on lots > of book ends? The 7410 is (according to 3ware) fine. The 75GXPs on the other hand are a total disaster. Get rid of them ASAP. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 12 15:29: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from happy.cow.org (happy.cow.org [198.88.20.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEC237B405; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:29:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ravi@localhost) by happy.cow.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) id fACNQuv34313; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:26:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:26:56 -0500 From: ravi pina To: Mike Smith Cc: Steve Kaczkowski , jose@we.lc.ehu.es, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, b.j.smith@ieee.org Subject: Re: requesting opinions about strange 3ware problem Message-ID: <20011112182656.E2155@happy.cow.org> Reply-To: ravi@cow.org References: <200111122324.fACNORn04085@mass.dis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111122324.fACNORn04085@mass.dis.org>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 03:24:27PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 03:24:27PM -0800, Mike Smith said at one point in time: > > having the 3ware card now and hearing how the ibm disk > > are prone to failure, i cannot help but to think that i > > have gotten ALL of the wrong hardware :) someone want > > to reassure me that i didn't just spend money on lots > > of book ends? > > The 7410 is (according to 3ware) fine. The 75GXPs on the other hand > are a total disaster. Get rid of them ASAP. fantastic. well, seeing as i had to build this server on donations and i'm unemployed (6+ mo), thay is not likely going to happen. what do you recommend as replacements so i can keep an eye for ones that have fallen off a truck? -r -- echo "send pgp key" | mail ravi@cow.org Why is a person who plays the piano called a pianist, but a person who drives a race car not called a racist? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 12 15:48:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A436337B416 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:48:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fACNodn04302; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:50:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200111122350.fACNodn04302@mass.dis.org> To: ravi@cow.org Cc: Steve Kaczkowski , jose@we.lc.ehu.es, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, b.j.smith@ieee.org Subject: Re: requesting opinions about strange 3ware problem In-Reply-To: Message from ravi pina of "Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:26:56 EST." <20011112182656.E2155@happy.cow.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:50:39 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > The 7410 is (according to 3ware) fine. The 75GXPs on the other hand > > are a total disaster. Get rid of them ASAP. > > fantastic. well, seeing as i had to build this server > on donations and i'm unemployed (6+ mo), thay is not > likely going to happen. Your supplier should be willing to replace them, or at the very least RMA them when they fail. > what do you recommend as replacements so i can keep an > eye for ones that have fallen off a truck? Maxtor seem to be the popular choice at the moment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 12 16:34:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D21137B417; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:34:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (lxpx298.lx.ehu.es [158.227.26.198]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAD0Yaj11235; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:34:36 +0100 (MET) Received: (from jose@localhost) by v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAD0YhK00715; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:34:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jose) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:34:43 +0100 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" To: Mike Smith Cc: ravi@cow.org, Steve Kaczkowski , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, b.j.smith@ieee.org Subject: Re: requesting opinions about strange 3ware problem Message-ID: <20011113013443.B377@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> References: <200111122324.fACNORn04085@mass.dis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111122324.fACNORn04085@mass.dis.org>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 03:24:27PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 03:24:27PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > having the 3ware card now and hearing how the ibm disk > > are prone to failure, i cannot help but to think that i > > have gotten ALL of the wrong hardware :) someone want > > to reassure me that i didn't just spend money on lots > > of book ends? > > The 7410 is (according to 3ware) fine. The 75GXPs on the other hand > are a total disaster. Get rid of them ASAP. However, I cannot see the relationship between the 75GXP flaws and this error: Nov 6 03:01:48 lucifer /kernel: twe0: AEN: since it only happens while the system is running "periodic daily" at 3:00 AM. This script does not generate any activity on twed0 (the filesystem stored there is mounted nosuid), but imposes a high load on ad0 instead. Obviously I ran "periodic daily" by hand many times, but I could not reproduce the error. Also, don't forget that these errors began just after starting 3dmd. Coincidence? I don't think so. Anyway, I will try to substitute the DTLA disks. Unfortunately, I don't have any proof of an actual disk failure. Many thanks, JMA -- ****** Jose M. Alcaide // jose@we.lc.ehu.es // jmas@FreeBSD.org ****** ** "Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers" -- Leonard Brandwein ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 12 20:39:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from blotto.phreak.net (blotto.phreak.net [207.250.188.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA6637B405; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:39:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from phreak.net (localhost.phreak.net [127.0.0.1]) by blotto.phreak.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 53B2E189501; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:39:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from 65.25.176.231 (SquirrelMail authenticated user operator) by mail.phreak.net with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:39:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <1395.65.25.176.231.1005626376.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:39:36 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: requesting opinions about strange 3ware problem From: "Steve Kaczkowski" To: msmith@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200111122350.fACNodn04302@mass.dis.org> References: <200111122350.fACNodn04302@mass.dis.org> Cc: ravi@cow.org, operator@phreak.net, jose@we.lc.ehu.es, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, b.j.smith@ieee.org X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.0.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> what do you recommend as replacements so i can keep an >> eye for ones that have fallen off a truck? > > Maxtor seem to be the popular choice at the moment. Maxtor? Holy smokes, never thought I hear that! :) Oh, and BTW, I have a pair of the 45gig 75GXPs (in a stripe) that are less than a year old which are causing me problems.... Guess I'll pickup some Maxtors to replace em.. -- Steve Kaczkowski operator@phreak.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 12 21:43:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E52237B416 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:43:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAD5j3n07442; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:45:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200111130545.fAD5j3n07442@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Steve Kaczkowski" Cc: ravi@cow.org, jose@we.lc.ehu.es, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, b.j.smith@ieee.org Subject: Re: requesting opinions about strange 3ware problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:39:36 CST." <1395.65.25.176.231.1005626376.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:45:03 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Maxtor seem to be the popular choice at the moment. > > Maxtor? Holy smokes, never thought I hear that! :) Me neither. But a certain (very) large site seems happy with them, having dropped the IBMs, and I'm not going to argue with that sort of sample space. 8) -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 12 21:58:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D4D37B405; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAD600n07576; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:00:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200111130600.fAD600n07576@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Jose M. Alcaide" Cc: Mike Smith , ravi@cow.org, Steve Kaczkowski , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, b.j.smith@ieee.org Subject: Re: requesting opinions about strange 3ware problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:34:43 +0100." <20011113013443.B377@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:00:00 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > The 7410 is (according to 3ware) fine. The 75GXPs on the other hand > > are a total disaster. Get rid of them ASAP. > > However, I cannot see the relationship between the 75GXP flaws and this > error: > > Nov 6 03:01:48 lucifer /kernel: twe0: AEN: it 1> Ignore it; the message is informative, and the AEN probably only means something to 3dmd. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 12 22:23: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from smtp002pub.verizon.net (smtp002pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0338037B405; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:22:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from gte.net (evrtwa1-ar4-4-34-145-186.evrtwa1.dsl.gtei.net [4.34.145.186]) by smtp002pub.verizon.net with ESMTP ; id fAD6Mqh12624 Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:22:52 -0600 (CST) Received: (from res03db2@localhost) by gte.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA69536; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:23:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from res03db2@gte.net) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:23:21 -0800 From: Robert Clark To: Mike Smith Cc: Steve Kaczkowski , ravi@cow.org, jose@we.lc.ehu.es, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, b.j.smith@ieee.org Subject: Re: requesting opinions about strange 3ware problem Message-ID: <20011112222321.J69342@darkstar.gte.net> References: <1395.65.25.176.231.1005626376.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> <200111130545.fAD5j3n07442@mass.dis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <200111130545.fAD5j3n07442@mass.dis.org>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 09:45:03PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been happy with my maxtors. My only complaint is that they seem to be getting noisy way too soon. [RC] On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 09:45:03PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > > Maxtor seem to be the popular choice at the moment. > > > > Maxtor? Holy smokes, never thought I hear that! :) > > Me neither. But a certain (very) large site seems happy with them, > having dropped the IBMs, and I'm not going to argue with that sort of > sample space. 8) > > -- > ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his > rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want > to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force > people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] > V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Nov 13 1:37:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B36D37B405; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:37:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (v-ger [158.227.6.51]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAD9b6j12828; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:37:06 +0100 (MET) Received: (from jose@localhost) by v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAD9bFM00717; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:37:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jose) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:37:15 +0100 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" To: Mike Smith Cc: ravi@cow.org, Steve Kaczkowski , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, b.j.smith@ieee.org Subject: Re: requesting opinions about strange 3ware problem Message-ID: <20011113103715.A339@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> References: <20011113013443.B377@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> <200111130600.fAD600n07576@mass.dis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111130600.fAD600n07576@mass.dis.org>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 10:00:00PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 10:00:00PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > However, I cannot see the relationship between the 75GXP flaws and > > this error: > > > > Nov 6 03:01:48 lucifer /kernel: twe0: AEN: > unknown unit 1> > > Ignore it; the message is informative, and the AEN probably only means > something to 3dmd. But the RAID-5 unit enters the "degraded" state, and one of the ports (usually 0 or 1) is marked as offline (though the state of the disk attached to that port is "OK"). I have to reboot the system and start a rebuild from the 3ware BIOS. The rebuild always succeeds. Regards, JMA -- ****** Jose M. Alcaide // jose@we.lc.ehu.es // jmas@FreeBSD.org ****** ** "Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers" -- Leonard Brandwein ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Nov 13 1:59:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from admin4.dircon.net (admin4.dircon.net [195.157.2.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292A737B418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:59:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tdcmb2@localhost) by admin4.dircon.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fAD9vOM86214 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:57:24 GMT (envelope-from tdcmb2) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:57:24 +0000 From: Mark Blackman To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD won't reboot this motherboard. Message-ID: <20011113095724.A86199@admin4.dircon.net> References: <200111081304.NAA77699@mailhost2.dircon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111081304.NAA77699@mailhost2.dircon.co.uk>; from mark.blackman@netscalibur.co.uk on Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 01:04:44PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As a final note for the archives, this problem is resolved with the help of the motherboard vendor. A new BIOS must be flashed on to the board. the ID is 6VTXDR-C.F3A, where the F3A refers to the BIOS version number. This BIOS is not currently being distributed on the website, but available through Gigabyte technical support. - Mark On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 01:04:44PM +0000, Mark Blackman wrote: > I've got a GA-6VTXDR-C motherboard with 1GHz pentium and > 1Gig of RAM. > > (http://networking.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Products_ServerBoard_Spec.asp?ProductID=20) > > This uses the Via Apollo Pro Family AGP Set > (North Bridge VT82C694T, South Bridge VT82C686B) > > I've been attempting to reboot this machine via the "/sbin/reboot" > executable. In all the cases I've tried, the full shutdown messages > occur, followed by the "Rebooting" output. After putting this line > to the screen, the machine fails to do anything (for 30 seconds and > more). Reboot is then achieved only with a hard reset or power cycle. > > I've tried CURRENT (cvsup today) and STABLE (cvsup yesterday) and > they both have this behaviour. > > 4.4-STABLE-yesterday > (GENERIC without BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET) - hangs after "Rebooting" > > 4.4-STABLE-yesterday > (GENERICE with BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET) - hangs after "Rebooting" > > 5.0-CURRENT-today > (without BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET) - hangs after "Rebooting" > > 5.0-CURRENT-today > (with BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET) - drops into debugger with > double panic after ~5 sec. > > FWIW, Redhat 7.2 does reboot the machine. My reading of the Linux > kernel code suggests that Linux puts the machine into 8086 emulation > mode (real mode) and then calls the BIOS reboot. > > I have 3 identical spec. machines which all exhibit this behaviour. > > Can anyone suggest any other options for forcing a reboot and what > does this imply about the way this hardware works? > > - Mark > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Nov 13 10:44:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from glatton.cnchost.com (glatton.cnchost.com [207.155.248.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173B237B405 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:44:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from bitblocks.com (adsl-209-204-185-216.sonic.net [209.204.185.216]) by glatton.cnchost.com id NAA10350; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:44:09 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.14] Message-ID: <200111131844.NAA10350@glatton.cnchost.com> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Any experience with Soyo K7ADA? Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:44:06 -0800 From: Bakul Shah Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fry's Electronics is selling these motherboard with Athlon 1600XP+ cpu (1.4Ghz) for $149 which seems like a decent price. Specs: supports upto 3GB of 266Mhz PC2100 DDR, ALi Magick1 chip set, ATA 133 etc. Has anyone run FreeBSD-{stable|current} on these beasts? Suggestions for alternative motherboards gratefully accepted! Basically I want a machine with 1+ Ghz Athlon, 1+ GB mem + it has to be reliable and be a good value for money. Similarly suggestions for alternatives to Fry's (but local to the SF bay area) also gratefully accepted. Thanks for any help! -- bakul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Nov 13 11:12:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from globalrelay.com (h216-18-71-77.gtcust.grouptelecom.net [216.18.71.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6281237B417 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.0.200] (account lists@globalrelay.net HELO hpvl4002) by globalrelay.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.7) with ESMTP id 770383; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:12:15 -0800 Message-ID: <046b01c16c77$6f45fbd0$0500050a@internal.globalrelay.net> From: "Eric Parusel" To: , "Bakul Shah" References: <200111131844.NAA10350@glatton.cnchost.com> Subject: Re: Any experience with Soyo K7ADA? Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:14:36 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Apart from the onboard NIC not working (*yet*, the MAC address isn't being detected properly), the SiS735 based ECS K7S5A has worked very well for myself on FreeBSD (4.4). I bought it because it was cheap ($125 *Canadian*), has a fast chipset, and got so many good reviews... It's not an overclockers motherboard though, not that I care :) Later, Eric Parusel > Fry's Electronics is selling these motherboard with Athlon > 1600XP+ cpu (1.4Ghz) for $149 which seems like a decent > price. Specs: supports upto 3GB of 266Mhz PC2100 DDR, ALi > Magick1 chip set, ATA 133 etc. > > Has anyone run FreeBSD-{stable|current} on these beasts? > > Suggestions for alternative motherboards gratefully accepted! > Basically I want a machine with 1+ Ghz Athlon, 1+ GB mem + it > has to be reliable and be a good value for money. Similarly > suggestions for alternatives to Fry's (but local to the SF > bay area) also gratefully accepted. > > Thanks for any help! > > -- bakul > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Nov 13 12:53: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.stcorp.com (stasc52.stcorp.com [207.203.33.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB6437B416 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:53:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from msc-002.msg.stcorp.com ([10.10.40.162]) by mail2.stcorp.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:49:26 -0600 Received: from msm-001.msg.stcorp.com ([10.10.40.140]) by msc-002.msg.stcorp.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:52:58 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Any experience with Soyo K7ADA? Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:52:58 -0600 Message-ID: <2AACFCDB6086274CA42D44085EF1BAA2045258@msm-001.msg.stcorp.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Any experience with Soyo K7ADA? Thread-Index: AcFsdzb3Wk1RKnx5SiCQRf61nxGi2QABVWXw From: "Nicpon, John" To: "Eric Parusel" , , "Bakul Shah" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2001 20:52:58.0510 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D0902E0:01C16C85] Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Agreed the ECS K7S5A is a stable board. It supports both DDR and SDR but only up to 1GB. I've run mine through a variety of tests and the only problems I've found are: 1. Certain AMR modems (Smartlink brand) cause problems with onboard sound. 2. I had problems with VIA compatible PC-133 SDR modules when attempting to run the DRAM bus @ 133mhz. This was fixed by manually configuring the module specs in the BIOS. 3. NIC problem in *BSD as listed below. For the feature set and price ($65 US). You can't beat it! -----Original Message----- From: Eric Parusel [mailto:lists@globalrelay.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:15 PM To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Bakul Shah Subject: Re: Any experience with Soyo K7ADA? Apart from the onboard NIC not working (*yet*, the MAC address isn't being detected properly), the SiS735 based ECS K7S5A has worked very well for myself on FreeBSD (4.4). I bought it because it was cheap ($125 *Canadian*), has a fast chipset, and got so many good reviews... It's not an overclockers motherboard though, not that I care :) Later, Eric Parusel > Fry's Electronics is selling these motherboard with Athlon > 1600XP+ cpu (1.4Ghz) for $149 which seems like a decent > price. Specs: supports upto 3GB of 266Mhz PC2100 DDR, ALi > Magick1 chip set, ATA 133 etc. > > Has anyone run FreeBSD-{stable|current} on these beasts? > > Suggestions for alternative motherboards gratefully accepted! > Basically I want a machine with 1+ Ghz Athlon, 1+ GB mem + it > has to be reliable and be a good value for money. Similarly > suggestions for alternatives to Fry's (but local to the SF > bay area) also gratefully accepted. > > Thanks for any help! > > -- bakul > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 14 19:43:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f257.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD5A37B418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:43:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:43:56 -0800 Received: from 209.52.193.57 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 03:43:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.52.193.57] From: "Craig R" To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: AC97 audio support on VT8233 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:43:56 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2001 03:43:56.0395 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0B16BB0:01C16D87] Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just today, I purchased an EPoX EP-8KHA+ mainboard. It has onboard sound running on the VIA VT8233 southbridge, which appears to not be currently supported by FreeBSD. If it is, can anyone guide me on how to get it working? If it is not, I am offering to be a test bed for anyone that would be willing to write a driver for it. At present, I am using my brother's SB Live!, which I am sure he wants back. Any feedback is much appreciated. -Craig _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 14 22:55:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F37B37B417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA03480; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 01:55:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 01:55:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Erik Greenwald , Deven Kampenhout , Jeramy Lee , Munish Chopra , Nick Slager , David Rufino , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: NVIDIA driver ported to FreeBSD. In-Reply-To: <200111141746.LAA30175@smluc.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've "ported" the Linux NVIDIA driver to FreeBSD-CURRENT. This means the kernel module and nvidia_drv.o XFree86-4 stuff will run. The GLX extension stuff won't. I'm working on that with some NVIDIA developers. I've got a bit of cleanup, sanity checking and a little more debuging before I declare this portion of my effort "done" but its running in X right now and I can pop up windows etc. I'll be posting a URL for the code after I fix a few things and write a simple README. We're a little closer to 3d-acceleration but work remains. Out. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | For Great Justice! | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 14 23: 0:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from blue.blueskyfrog.com (blue.blueskyfrog.com [203.185.223.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED5137B417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:00:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from gold.internal.blueskyfrog.com ([192.168.121.34]) by blue.blueskyfrog.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 164GV3-0003jl-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:59:49 +1000 Received: from ns by gold.internal.blueskyfrog.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 164GV2-0002o3-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:59:48 +1000 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:59:48 +1000 From: Nick Slager To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Erik Greenwald , Deven Kampenhout , Jeramy Lee , Munish Chopra , David Rufino , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NVIDIA driver ported to FreeBSD. Message-ID: <20011115165948.A10217@BlueSkyFrog.COM> References: <200111141746.LAA30175@smluc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from winter@jurai.net on Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 01:55:10AM -0500 X-Homer: Whoohooooooo! Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Matthew N. Dodd (winter@jurai.net): > I've "ported" the Linux NVIDIA driver to FreeBSD-CURRENT. > Yay! This is *great* news. Can't wait to hear the story. Egad, far out etc. Nick -- Excuse of the day: root rot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Nov 15 0:55:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2840637B417 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 00:55:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA04910; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 03:55:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 03:55:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Erik Greenwald , Deven Kampenhout , Jeramy Lee , Munish Chopra , Nick Slager , David Rufino , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NVIDIA driver ported to FreeBSD. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > I'll be posting a URL for the code after I fix a few things and write a > simple README. ftp://ftp.jurai.net/users/winter/nvidia/ README freebsd_nvidia.tar.gz Enjoy. I'm going to be working down the TODO list and bugging the NVIDIA guys about getting GLX. Will post more info when it becomes available. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | For Great Justice! | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Nov 15 4:35:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk (yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B14037B416; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 04:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from dr263.sel.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.129.153] helo=there ident=dr) by yellow.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 164LjZ-0000sL-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 12:35:09 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: David Rufino To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: -STABLE NVidia drivers Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 12:35:14 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Just thought I would mention my -STABLE NVidia drivers have been working for the past week, as far as 2D and XVideo goes. Available on CVS at http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-bsd. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Nov 15 6:13:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2A537B416 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:13:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [144.137.121.199] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id bdqdaaaa for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 01:14:03 +1100 Message-ID: <3BF3CDAD.6050104@quake.com.au> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 01:14:05 +1100 From: Kal Torak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Erik Greenwald , Deven Kampenhout , Jeramy Lee , Munish Chopra , Nick Slager , David Rufino , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NVIDIA driver ported to FreeBSD. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > >>I'll be posting a URL for the code after I fix a few things and write a >>simple README. >> > > ftp://ftp.jurai.net/users/winter/nvidia/ > > README > freebsd_nvidia.tar.gz > > Enjoy. This is GREAT!!! Someone wanna post this news on the page? I have forgoten my password for the news posting script :| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Nov 15 7:16:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4367837B416 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:16:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA33450; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:16:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:16:30 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon To: David Rufino Cc: Subject: Re: -STABLE NVidia drivers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, David Rufino wrote: > Just thought I would mention my -STABLE NVidia drivers have been > working for the past week, as far as 2D and XVideo goes. Available > on CVS at http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-bsd. Cool! I look forward to trying this out. Is the 3D support still dead in the water without NVidia's help? -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet - Available for IA32 (Intel x86) and Alpha architectures - IA64, PowerPC, UltraSPARC, and ARM architectures under development - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Nov 15 11:39:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from 1stwebs.com (1stwebs.com [216.122.237.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3035237B41B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:39:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from netexplorer.org (IDENT:ZllL77sPqrNbm2vV4m/9Liv4epgvIglI@nat-151-25.lightrealm.net [207.159.151.25]) by 1stwebs.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAFJcl789931; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:38:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from deven@netexplorer.org) Message-ID: <3BF419C5.8060100@netexplorer.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:38:45 -0800 From: Deven Kampenhout User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kal Torak Cc: "Matthew N. Dodd" , Erik Greenwald , Jeramy Lee , Munish Chopra , Nick Slager , David Rufino , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NVIDIA driver ported to FreeBSD. References: <3BF3CDAD.6050104@quake.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's up on the news page. http://nvidia.netexplorer.org/news.html - Deven Kal Torak wrote: > Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > >> On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: >> >>> I'll be posting a URL for the code after I fix a few things and write a >>> simple README. >>> >> >> ftp://ftp.jurai.net/users/winter/nvidia/ >> >> README >> freebsd_nvidia.tar.gz >> >> Enjoy. > > > > This is GREAT!!! > > Someone wanna post this news on the page? I have forgoten my password for > the news posting script :| > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Nov 15 12:15:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FDA37B41D for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 12:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA13573; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:14:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:14:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Deven Kampenhout Cc: Kal Torak , Erik Greenwald , Jeramy Lee , Munish Chopra , Nick Slager , David Rufino , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NVIDIA driver ported to FreeBSD. In-Reply-To: <3BF419C5.8060100@netexplorer.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Deven Kampenhout wrote: > It's up on the news page. http://nvidia.netexplorer.org/news.html You might add information about David Rufino's work; he's aparently gotten his driver working under -STABLE. The port of my driver to -STABLE won't happen until I get the GLX extension and libGL and ligGLcore from NVIDIA. > Kal Torak wrote: > > > Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > >> > >>> I'll be posting a URL for the code after I fix a few things and write a > >>> simple README. > >>> > >> > >> ftp://ftp.jurai.net/users/winter/nvidia/ > >> > >> README > >> freebsd_nvidia.tar.gz > >> > >> Enjoy. > > > > > > > > This is GREAT!!! > > > > Someone wanna post this news on the page? I have forgoten my password for > > the news posting script :| > > > > > > > > -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | For Great Justice! | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Nov 16 13:47:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from intersystems.com (gateway.intersys.com [198.133.74.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D996937B419 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by gateway.intersystems.com id <119126>; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:48:38 -0500 Message-Id: <01Nov16.164838est.119126@gateway.intersystems.com> From: "E. Jordan Bojar" To: Subject: 3Ware IDE RAID Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:51:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can FreeBSD 4.4 use a the 3Ware IDE RAID mirror to boot? That is, can I do a full install (partitioning and all) onto a mirrored array and expect the machine to "just work", or do I need some kind of boot disk as well (I recall this was the case some time ago)? Please respond directly as I'm not on-list. Thanks. -- E. Jordan Bojar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Nov 16 16:44: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from Stalker.alfacom.net (Stalker.Alfacom.net [193.108.124.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B16637B417; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:43:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from kushnir1.kiev.ua (dup-124-69.Alfacom.net [193.108.124.69]) by Stalker.alfacom.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id fAH0hTM4006409; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 02:43:37 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (volodya@localhost) by kushnir1.kiev.ua (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAH0fWt05400; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 02:42:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from vkushnir@Alfacom.net) X-Authentication-Warning: kushnir1.kiev.ua: volodya owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 02:41:14 +0200 (EET) From: Vladimir Kushnir X-X-Sender: To: David Rufino Cc: , Subject: Re: -STABLE NVidia drivers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011117022144.M4970-100000@kushnir1.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Well, since nobody seems to be interested (I can't for the life of mine understand why), thanks and a couple of (perhaps silly) questions. On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, David Rufino wrote: > Hi, > > Just thought I would mention my -STABLE NVidia drivers have been working for > the past week, as far as 2D and XVideo goes. Available on CVS at > http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-bsd. > > David > i) any plans on porting to -CURRENT? On GLX stuff? And does it work with DEVFS? ii) any problems that should be addressed? iii) (sorry, this goes before reading your code) is your port very different from Matthew Dodd's (which I run right now)? iv) any help you need? v) thanks again, this kind of work is a miracle which no-one seems to have noticed - usage for alien _kernel_ modules is not something one can see very often. Regards, Vladimir -- Vladimir Kushnir - vkushnir@Alfacom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Nov 17 4:11: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from orange.csi.cam.ac.uk (orange.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7073C37B417; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:10:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from dr263.sel.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.129.153] helo=there ident=dr) by orange.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1654Ip-0000eO-00; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:10:31 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: David Rufino To: Vladimir Kushnir Subject: Re: -STABLE NVidia drivers Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:10:38 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <20011117022144.M4970-100000@kushnir1.kiev.ua> In-Reply-To: <20011117022144.M4970-100000@kushnir1.kiev.ua> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday 17 November 2001 12:41 am, you wrote: > Hi, Hey, > Well, since nobody seems to be interested (I can't for the life of mine > understand why), thanks and a couple of (perhaps silly) questions. > > > i) any plans on porting to -CURRENT? On GLX stuff? And does it work with > DEVFS? I have no plans to port to -CURRENT, as I'm perfectly happy running -STABLE; but perhaps someone else might be interested. GLX stuff should be coming soon. It all depends on when the nvidia ppl will produce some object binaries which I can link to produce the GL libraries, and glx extension module. I haven't tried with DEVFS to be honest, but there doesn't seem to be any reason why it shouldn't work. > ii) any problems that should be addressed? The long-running ioctl issue which is reportedly going to be fixed by the nvidia guys in 2 releases time. I have a perfectly good (if annoyingly hacky) workaround in the kernel module itself, though, so it's not a problem i would concern myself with too much. Having said that it might be worth getting someone to add a flag to the cdevsw structure that ensures the userland address is always passed to the kernel driver. There's also the problem with mmap allocation, which would take a while to explain, needless to say I have another hacky workaround, which limits the number of allocation buffers to 7. Perhaps a better way would be to use an anonymous mmap followed by mlock, and then map it into kernel space (which I don't know how to do). Also there may well be problems with 2 processes simultaneously accessing the same /dev/nvidia0 device, since there's no simple way, in the current (-STABLE and -CURRENT :) framework, to differentiate between two distinct instances. This might be changing in -CURRENT soon. > iii) (sorry, this goes before reading your code) is your port very > different from Matthew Dodd's (which I run right now)? A lot of Matthew Dodd's code is derived from mine, especially the memory allocation stuff. The only real difference is that he modifies nvidia_drv.o, while I try to provide an almost full emulation of the linux kernel module, without modifying anything in userspace. The reason being that LD_PRELOAD doesn't work in the case of static binaries, and just modifying nvidia_drv.o won't work in all cases because the same code for using /dev/nvidia? is repeated in the shared libraries (apparently). Also, I think I'm correct in saying that his code assumes that there are only 3 allocation mmap calls made in the entire session, which is true if you're just running a normal 2D session, but XVideo (I think) uses an additional allocation call and glx likewise.. > iv) any help you need? A few things on my wishlist :> It would be very nice if an ELF wizard could magically hack the linux libglx driver and libGL libs to work on FreeBSD . If someone could figure out why it crashes when switching to console, I would also be very grateful. Someone to look at my code and sanity check it might be useful. > v) thanks again, this kind of work is a miracle which no-one seems to > have noticed - usage for alien _kernel_ modules is not something one can > see very often. thank you! > Regards, > Vladimir Thanks, David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Nov 17 14: 5:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from po3.glue.umd.edu (po3.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933B537B416; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 14:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from glue.umd.edu (darkstar.umd.edu [128.8.215.163]) by po3.glue.umd.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fAHM52506658; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:05:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3BF6DF0F.5326FAB9@glue.umd.edu> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:05:03 -0500 From: Brandon Fosdick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vladimir Kushnir Cc: David Rufino , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -STABLE NVidia drivers References: <20011117022144.M4970-100000@kushnir1.kiev.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vladimir Kushnir wrote: > Well, since nobody seems to be interested (I can't for the life of mine > understand why), thanks and a couple of (perhaps silly) questions. I'm interested, I've just been busy thats all. I haven't had a chance to play with the drivers yet. Thanks David! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Nov 17 15: 4:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from agena.meridian-enviro.com (thunder.meridian-enviro.com [207.109.234.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CF737B417 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 15:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from delta.meridian-enviro.com (delta.meridian-enviro.com [10.10.10.43]) by agena.meridian-enviro.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id fAHN49C37869; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:04:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rand@meridian-enviro.com) Received: (from rand@localhost) by delta.meridian-enviro.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAHN49Z31072; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:04:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rand@meridian-enviro.com) X-Authentication-Warning: delta.meridian-enviro.com: rand set sender to rand@meridian-enviro.com using -f To: "E. Jordan Bojar" Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3Ware IDE RAID References: <01Nov16.164838est.119126@gateway.intersystems.com> From: rand@meridian-enviro.com (Douglas K. Rand) Date: 17 Nov 2001 17:04:09 -0600 In-Reply-To: <01Nov16.164838est.119126@gateway.intersystems.com> ("E. Jordan Bojar"'s message of "Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:51:58 -0500") Message-ID: <878zd5f192.fsf@delta.meridian-enviro.com> Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jordan> Can FreeBSD 4.4 use a the 3Ware IDE RAID mirror to boot? Yup! It is way cool! Jordan> That is, can I do a full install (partitioning and all) onto a Jordan> mirrored array and expect the machine to "just work", or do I Jordan> need some kind of boot disk as well (I recall this was the Jordan> case some time ago)? We have 6 systems with all the disks hooked up to a 3ware controller. (This excepts the CD-ROM drive. :) All work like a charm, boot fine. In fact, all installed directly from either the 4.3 or 4.4 distributions. The only thing that took me a bit to realize was the RAID-0 and RAID-10 volumes needed to be initialized, and this /really/ slows down the installation, especially newfs. One reason I didn't figure this out right away is that the front panel LED from the 3ware card doesn't show this activity, only the internal LEDs for the indvidual disks. I've fallen in to the habit of forcing a fdisk label (DOS partition table) to be written out to the disk and then just waiting, up to a few hours, for the RAID volume initialization to finish. Then I reboot and do the install again. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message