From owner-freebsd-java Sun Nov 11 4:22:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from d3210.upc-d.chello.nl (d3210.upc-d.chello.nl [213.46.3.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61AF37B41E for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 04:22:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from bowtie.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by d3210.upc-d.chello.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fABCLoj54769; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:21:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@bowtie.nl) Message-ID: <3BEE6D5E.3430564F@bowtie.nl> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:21:50 +0100 From: Marc van Kempen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chad David Cc: java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Source to give away. References: <20011110172912.A92518@colnta.acns.ab.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chad David wrote: > > This spring I sold my part of a software company that I had > helped start that focused primarily on Java development. > As part of the sale I was given all of the source that had > been developed over the last four years, but since then I have > had little interest in Java, and the code has been just left > to die. > Hi, my company builds webapplications and a lot of this stuff looks really interesting. I'd be very interested in taking a look at it. Regards, Marc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Sun Nov 11 8:18:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from ron.emn.fr (nat4.emn.fr [193.54.76.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8170737B419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 08:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from hal.eleve.emn.fr (uucp@hal.eleve.emn.fr [193.54.77.109]) by ron.emn.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id RAA07286 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:18:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from (uucp@localhost) by hal.eleve.emn.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.1) id RAA10593 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:18:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from us11(193.54.77.73) by hal via smap (V2.0) id xma010590; Sun, 11 Nov 01 17:18:33 +0100 Received: from r113c.eleve.emn.fr (r113.mde.emn.fr [172.16.5.13]) by us11.etude (8.8.8+Sun/jtpda-5.1) with ESMTP id RAA07802 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:18:30 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011111162341.02aae590@ftk.emn.fr> X-Sender: qdgtruie#pop.free.fr@ftk.emn.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:44:31 +0100 To: "'java@freebsd.org'" From: Yvan Saule Subject: Eclipse Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't know if anyone has tryed to run eclipse on FreeBSD ... This morning I installed the build 20001109 and ran it thanks to linux emulation. (FreeBSD-4.2 + linux_base7). Everything runs fine (cvs, file edition, completion, etc ..). Only program execution from within eclipse was problematic (du to a mess in my installation of several linux_base). yvan --------------------------------------------- yvan saule software engineering To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Mon Nov 12 0:43: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mail.acns.ab.ca (h24-64-56-135.cg.shawcable.net [24.64.56.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0B537B405 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from colnta.acns.ab.ca (colnta.acns.ab.ca [192.168.1.2]) by mail.acns.ab.ca (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAC8gub17569; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 01:42:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from davidc@colnta.acns.ab.ca) Received: (from davidc@localhost) by colnta.acns.ab.ca (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAC8gu609873; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 01:42:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from davidc) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 01:42:56 -0700 From: Chad David To: Daniel Eischen Cc: Chad David , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Source to give away. Message-ID: <20011112014256.C9827@colnta.acns.ab.ca> Mail-Followup-To: Daniel Eischen , Chad David , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011110172912.A92518@colnta.acns.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from eischen@pcnet1.pcnet.com on Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 10:02:50PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 10:02:50PM -0500, Daniel Eischen wrote: > I'm kind of interested in some of your software, particularly anything > GUI-related. We're developing an embedded application in Personal Java > (no Swing) for a VxWorks target and might be able to make use of some > of your software. Most of the GUI related code is Swing, so it may not be of much use to you. -- Chad David davidc@acns.ab.ca ACNS Inc. Calgary, Alberta Canada "When Linux was first ported to the Furby platform, it suffered from significant stability and performance problems, which gave the Furby an unfortunate reputation as being unsuitable for enterprise-level computing." -- furbeowulf site To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Mon Nov 12 1:46: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7C637B405 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 01:46:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:46:00 +0100 Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA08B@l04.research.kpn.com> From: "Koster, K.J." To: 'Chad David' Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Source to give away. Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:45:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Chad, > > SQL Grammar (Tested with Oracle and Postgresql syntax) > Distributed Web Server Loader Tester > I'm really interested in these two. Guess what I'm doing :) Kees Jan ================================================ You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Mon Nov 12 3:34: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A9E37B405 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 03:34:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fACBWeR04308; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:32:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111121132.fACBWeR04308@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan Organization: Jollem Information Technology To: Rob Simmons , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: orion Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:32:38 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20011109164458.R80654-100000@mail.wlcg.com> In-Reply-To: <20011109164458.R80654-100000@mail.wlcg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Rob, I'm the maintainer of the Orion port. The options you listed are valid. Another option would be to configure Apache to redirect certain requests to Orion on port 8090 or whatever you chose. Or perhaps it would do if you let Apache serve an index.html that contains a frameset with a frame that contacts port 8090: If you have any comments on the Orion port, lemme know :-) I'm constantly thinking about improvements. Ernst On Friday 09 November 2001 22:49, Rob Simmons wrote: > I upgraded the orion port to the newer one (orion-1.4.5_7). Now that it > runs under its own user, it cannot open port 80. I need to run something > at port 80 to forward the requests to port 8090. I was thinking about > using ipfilter's IPNAT and do rdr between the ports. Another option I was > thinking about was running apache on port 80 and using it to proxy for > orion. > > These are both ok with me. I was wondering if anyone out there had other > methods that would be better then these two? > > I would rather not run orion as root again, I think the orion user is a > good idea. > > Robert Simmons > Systems Administrator > http://www.wlcg.com/ > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message -- Ernst de Haan EuroNet Internet B.V. "Come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Mon Nov 12 13:54: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wlcg.com (mail.wlcg.com [198.92.199.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5493937B418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:54:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fACLs3J71757 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:54:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons@wlcg.com) Received: from localhost (rsimmons@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with ESMTP id fACLs2u71750 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:54:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons@wlcg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.wlcg.com: rsimmons owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:53:59 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Simmons To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: tomcat port Message-ID: <20011112165306.H67713-100000@mail.wlcg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Is there a specific reason why the tomcat port's run dependency jdk has not been updated to jdk13? Robert Simmons Systems Administrator http://www.wlcg.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE78ET6v8Bofna59hYRAzrCAKCbD4pmmpvF/LDNZwLKHQUlVMItkACdFt7f yk/JHBIgKOl+KPj2DHUR1Xs= =deYU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Mon Nov 12 14:18:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from azrael.xs4all.nl (azrael.xs4all.nl [213.84.220.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B66637B405 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:18:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from remco@localhost) by azrael.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fACMICK24559; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:18:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from remco) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:18:12 +0100 From: "Remco van 't Veer" To: Rob Simmons Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tomcat port Message-ID: <20011112231812.L579@azrael.xs4all.nl> References: <20011112165306.H67713-100000@mail.wlcg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011112165306.H67713-100000@mail.wlcg.com>; from rsimmons@wlcg.com on Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 04:53:59PM -0500 X-Spook: NSADS Firefly emm rain quiche PPP DODIG York UTU Bess ADIU SART Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I dunno.. But I can tell you I am using tomcat with 1.3.1p5 and shujit for development and I don't have any problems. I would consider using this combination for a server. HTH, Remco On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 16:53, Rob Simmons wrote: > Is there a specific reason why the tomcat port's run dependency > jdk has not been updated to jdk13? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Mon Nov 12 15: 0:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wlcg.com (mail.wlcg.com [198.92.199.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7746C37B416 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fACN0BG73470 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:00:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons@wlcg.com) Received: from localhost (rsimmons@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with ESMTP id fACN09i73459 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:00:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons@wlcg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.wlcg.com: rsimmons owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:00:03 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Simmons To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: orion port Message-ID: <20011112175842.B67713-100000@mail.wlcg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 I was playing around with the orion port. If you set the user variable in orionclt to "root" it no longer works properly. Robert Simmons Systems Administrator http://www.wlcg.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE78FR5v8Bofna59hYRA0/QAKCrr07m3ddQ9bL7I22YPEMAz/LVrACfZRY8 /aW38YdRNS2P2Ojdv8V9yyc= =SJKQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Mon Nov 12 19:22:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mail.acns.ab.ca (h24-64-56-135.cg.shawcable.net [24.64.56.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED84537B405 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:22:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from colnta.acns.ab.ca (colnta.acns.ab.ca [192.168.1.2]) by mail.acns.ab.ca (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAD3Mob26230 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:22:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from davidc@colnta.acns.ab.ca) Received: (from davidc@localhost) by colnta.acns.ab.ca (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAD3Mo012568 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:22:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from davidc) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:22:50 -0700 From: Chad David To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Source to give away, part II Message-ID: <20011112202250.A12478@colnta.acns.ab.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Given the number of replies I've received from my original post, and the number of individuals who appear to be interested in starting a project (both to continue the development of some of the source I listed, as well as to create a global Java site for BSD) I've decided to pursue the idea of promoting the open source development of what I have through a BSD centric Java site. If the community at large is interested in seeing it grow into something bigger, then that would be a bonus. You can find the initial site at http://www.acns.ab.ca/bsd including the javadocs and source. I have not yet BSD licensed the source, primarily because I would like the input of anyone who is willing to get involved before I do much. If anything is to come of this it will need to be a group effort right from the start. Thanks to everybody who has offered input up to this point. -- Chad David davidc@acns.ab.ca ACNS Inc. Calgary, Alberta Canada "When Linux was first ported to the Furby platform, it suffered from significant stability and performance problems, which gave the Furby an unfortunate reputation as being unsuitable for enterprise-level computing." -- furbeowulf site To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Nov 13 0:59:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C4337B419 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAD8vmi07324; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:57:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111130857.fAD8vmi07324@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan Organization: Jollem Information Technology To: Rob Simmons , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: orion port Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:57:48 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20011112175842.B67713-100000@mail.wlcg.com> In-Reply-To: <20011112175842.B67713-100000@mail.wlcg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rob, The correct way to report an issue like this one is to send a PR with a CC to the maintainer, and optionally a CC to java@freebsd.org. In this case I am the maintainer, I will fix this problem ASAP. Ernst On Tuesday 13 November 2001 00:00, Rob Simmons wrote: > I was playing around with the orion port. If you set the user variable in > orionclt to "root" it no longer works properly. > > Robert Simmons > Systems Administrator > http://www.wlcg.com/ > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message -- Ernst de Haan EuroNet Internet B.V. "Come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Nov 13 1: 0:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D3837B419 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:00:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAD8x1I07327; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:59:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111130859.fAD8x1I07327@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan Organization: Jollem Information Technology To: Chad David , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Source to give away, part II Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:59:01 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20011112202250.A12478@colnta.acns.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: <20011112202250.A12478@colnta.acns.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chad, I'm interested as well. Mostly in the utility code. And I can help with creating a port for certain parts of your stuff, if required. Ernst On Tuesday 13 November 2001 04:22, Chad David wrote: > Given the number of replies I've received from my original post, > and the number of individuals who appear to be interested in > starting a project (both to continue the development of some of > the source I listed, as well as to create a global Java site > for BSD) I've decided to pursue the idea of promoting the open > source development of what I have through a BSD centric Java site. > If the community at large is interested in seeing it grow into > something bigger, then that would be a bonus. > > You can find the initial site at http://www.acns.ab.ca/bsd > including the javadocs and source. I have not yet BSD licensed > the source, primarily because I would like the input of anyone > who is willing to get involved before I do much. If anything is > to come of this it will need to be a group effort right from the > start. > > Thanks to everybody who has offered input up to this point. -- Ernst de Haan EuroNet Internet B.V. "Come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Nov 13 1:53:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from cric.chemres.hu (cric.chemres.hu [193.224.146.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE50137B417 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuti@localhost) by cric.chemres.hu (8.11.6/8.11.0) id fAD9sSp22788; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:54:28 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:54:28 +0100 From: Kuti Zsolt Message-Id: <200111130954.fAD9sSp22788@cric.chemres.hu> To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, probe@cric.chemres.hu, this@cric.chemres.hu, thrash@cric.chemres.hu Subject: just Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Nov 13 1:53:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from cric.chemres.hu (cric.chemres.hu [193.224.146.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B872B37B418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:53:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuti@localhost) by cric.chemres.hu (8.11.6/8.11.0) id fAD9soR22821 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:54:50 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:54:50 +0100 From: Kuti Zsolt Message-Id: <200111130954.fAD9soR22821@cric.chemres.hu> To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: just thrash this probe Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Nov 13 2:13: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95A237B416 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:13:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:13:01 +0100 Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA0A0@l04.research.kpn.com> From: "Koster, K.J." To: 'Rob Simmons' Cc: "FreeBSD Java mailing list (E-mail)" Subject: RE: orion port Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:13:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Rob, > > I was playing around with the orion port. If you set the > user variable in orionclt to "root" it no longer works properly. > The reason for this problem is that root uses csh(1) as the login shell and the su(1)'d command line is for sh(1). You can simply use ipfw to redirect the HTTP port and run Orion as user Orion. It's one step to a safer box. Kees Jan ================================================ You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life.> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Nov 13 2:24: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8BB37B405 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:23:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fADAMa858125; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:22:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111131022.fADAMa858125@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan Organization: Jollem Information Technology To: Arun Sharma , java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: orp-1.0.7 patch for freebsd Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:22:30 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20011110133835.A16358@sharma-home.net> In-Reply-To: <20011110133835.A16358@sharma-home.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Isn't there a port for ORP ? Ernst On Saturday 10 November 2001 22:38, Arun Sharma wrote: > [ for some reason, my earlier mail was rejected ] > > http://www.sharma-home.net/~adsharma/projects/orp/orp-1.0.7-freebsd.patch.g >z > > What is ORP ? > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/orp/ > > -Arun > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message -- Ernst de Haan EuroNet Internet B.V. "Come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Nov 13 2:25:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4989137B416 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fADANp258128; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:23:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111131023.fADANp258128@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan Organization: Jollem Information Technology To: Greg Lewis , Chris Jordan Subject: Re: Dependencies of the native jdk13 port Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:23:51 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3BEBF5D7.994D76D2@corp.earthlink.net> <20011110135027.A91645@misty.eyesbeyond.com> In-Reply-To: <20011110135027.A91645@misty.eyesbeyond.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg and all, > The linux-jdk13 port actually needs to error when the distfiles aren't > present instead of writing the message and exiting. Then the native > port would detect this and stop, allowing the user to take the > appropriate action. We should make sure that the port *fails* when the distfiles need to be fetched manually and aren't available. What would be the right way to make such a port fail? Ernst -- Ernst de Haan EuroNet Internet B.V. "Come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Nov 13 8:33:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wlcg.com (mail.wlcg.com [198.92.199.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53FA37B405 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 08:33:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fADGXKW91674 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:33:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons@wlcg.com) Received: from localhost (rsimmons@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with ESMTP id fADGXIc91667 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:33:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons@wlcg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.wlcg.com: rsimmons owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:33:15 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Simmons To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: another orion question Message-ID: <20011113113220.Q67713-100000@mail.wlcg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 I have another question. I have a shared box that I'm trying to run multiple instances of orion on. I am able to get each instance to listen on different IP addresses, but orion starts a listener on port 23791 on its own. Is there a way to get the orion instances to open this port separately on each IP address? The way it seems to work now, is the first orion to start opens port 23791 on all IP addresses (*:23791 in sockstat). I would like the orion instance to only open this port on the IP that the webserver is running on. I've grepped the orion directory for this value and I don't see it anywhere. Robert Simmons Systems Administrator http://www.wlcg.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE78UtOv8Bofna59hYRA5QzAKCcuQnkded+5+MN+MjDKJufRMaUOACeOzYc cG2aq+BFEazbl3oL+LepFcs= =L9Oj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Nov 13 9: 6:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4BE37B405 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:06:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fADH56J65571; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:05:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111131705.fADH56J65571@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan Organization: Jollem Information Technology To: Rob Simmons , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: another orion question Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:05:05 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20011113113220.Q67713-100000@mail.wlcg.com> In-Reply-To: <20011113113220.Q67713-100000@mail.wlcg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rob, The correct place to ask this question is the orionsupport mailing list. If you can find an answer, let me know, and I will probably update the orion port to include an extra config option for this. Ernst On Tuesday 13 November 2001 17:33, Rob Simmons wrote: > I have another question. I have a shared box that I'm trying to run > multiple instances of orion on. I am able to get each instance to listen > on different IP addresses, but orion starts a listener on port 23791 on > its own. Is there a way to get the orion instances to open this port > separately on each IP address? > > The way it seems to work now, is the first orion to start opens port 23791 > on all IP addresses (*:23791 in sockstat). I would like the orion instance > to only open this port on the IP that the webserver is running on. I've > grepped the orion directory for this value and I don't see it anywhere. > > Robert Simmons > Systems Administrator > http://www.wlcg.com/ > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message -- Ernst de Haan EuroNet Internet B.V. "Come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Nov 13 9:15:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (cpe-66-1-147-119.ca.sprintbbd.net [66.1.147.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2FC37B419 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by sharmas.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 0B5AD5E599; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:15:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:15:23 -0800 From: Arun Sharma To: Ernst de Haan Cc: java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: orp-1.0.7 patch for freebsd Message-ID: <20011113091522.C14337@sharma-home.net> References: <20011110133835.A16358@sharma-home.net> <200111131022.fADAMa858125@zaphod.euronet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200111131022.fADAMa858125@zaphod.euronet.nl>; from ernst@jollem.com on Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 11:22:30AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 11:22:30AM +0100, Ernst de Haan wrote: > Isn't there a port for ORP ? Not yet. But such a port will have to depend on: 1. GNU classpath - I haven't been able to get that package to compile cleanly. I end up doing javac $(find . -name '*.java'). Depends on automake/autoconf which seem to be cutting edge (i.e. just released and not yet in ports). 2. NGPT - for pthreads. This port already exists. But ORP is in a good enough shape to run tomcat. 1.0.7 also added support for jar files, which improves usability. -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Nov 13 9:24:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1261737B417 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fADHN7699811; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:23:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111131723.fADHN7699811@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan Organization: Jollem Information Technology To: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: orp-1.0.7 patch for freebsd Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:23:06 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: java@freebsd.org References: <20011110133835.A16358@sharma-home.net> <200111131022.fADAMa858125@zaphod.euronet.nl> <20011113091522.C14337@sharma-home.net> In-Reply-To: <20011113091522.C14337@sharma-home.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Arun, > 1. GNU classpath - I haven't been able to get that package to compile > cleanly. I end up doing javac $(find . -name '*.java'). Depends on > automake/autoconf which seem to be cutting edge (i.e. just released > and not yet in ports). Okay, so lets focus on this one first. If we can create a port for this one, then we can create a separate one for ORP after that. What's the URL for GNU classpath? Is it: http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/classpath.html ? Ernst -- Ernst de Haan EuroNet Internet B.V. "Come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Nov 13 10:24:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (cpe-66-1-147-119.ca.sprintbbd.net [66.1.147.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA23A37B418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:24:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by sharmas.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 6232E5E59A; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:24:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:24:38 -0800 From: Arun Sharma To: Ernst de Haan Cc: java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: orp-1.0.7 patch for freebsd Message-ID: <20011113102438.A14745@sharma-home.net> References: <20011110133835.A16358@sharma-home.net> <200111131022.fADAMa858125@zaphod.euronet.nl> <20011113091522.C14337@sharma-home.net> <200111131723.fADHN7699811@zaphod.euronet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200111131723.fADHN7699811@zaphod.euronet.nl>; from ernst@jollem.com on Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 06:23:06PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 06:23:06PM +0100, Ernst de Haan wrote: > What's the URL for GNU classpath? Is it: > > http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/classpath.html > Yes. I think we should start from a nightly CVS snapshot. Their last release (0.02) is too old for ORP I think. -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Tue Nov 13 13: 7:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wlcg.com (mail.wlcg.com [198.92.199.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A357237B416; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:07:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fADL7Qg01273; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:07:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons) Received: (from rsimmons@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6av) id fADL7P901264; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:07:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:07:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200111132107.fADL7P901264@mail.wlcg.com> To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Update tomcat port to jdk 1.3.1 From: Rob Simmons Reply-To: Rob Simmons Cc: dirk@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-send-pr-version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Submitter-Id: current-users >Originator: Rob Simmons >Organization: >Confidential: no >Synopsis: Update tomcat port to jdk 1.3.1 >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Category: ports >Class: update >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Environment: System: FreeBSD mail 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #1: Tue Oct 9 11:45:16 EDT 2001 rsimmons@mail:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WASABI i386 >Description: Update the tomcat port to use jdk 1.3.1 >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: --- Makefile.orig Tue Nov 13 13:36:50 2001 +++ Makefile Tue Nov 13 13:37:05 2001 @@ -14,7 +14,7 @@ MAINTAINER= dirk@FreeBSD.org BUILD_DEPENDS= pinstall:${PORTSDIR}/devel/pinstall -RUN_DEPENDS= ${LOCALBASE}/jdk1.1.8/bin/javac:${PORTSDIR}/java/jdk +RUN_DEPENDS= ${LOCALBASE}/jdk1.3.1/bin/javac:${PORTSDIR}/java/jdk13 NO_BUILD= yes --- files/patch-aa.orig Tue Nov 13 13:39:34 2001 +++ files/patch-aa Tue Nov 13 13:40:34 2001 @@ -12,7 +12,7 @@ # you should have a bin and lib directories beneath it. # -workers.java_home=c:\jdk1.2.2 -+workers.java_home=%%PREFIX%%/jdk1.1.8 ++workers.java_home=%%PREFIX%%/jdk1.3.1 # # You should configure your environment slash... ps=\ on NT and / on UNIX --- files/tomcat.sh.orig Tue Nov 13 13:39:40 2001 +++ files/tomcat.sh Tue Nov 13 13:40:49 2001 @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ #!/bin/sh -JAVA_HOME=%%PREFIX%%/jdk1.1.8 +JAVA_HOME=%%PREFIX%%/jdk1.3.1 export JAVA_HOME TOMCAT_HOME=%%PREFIX%%/tomcat export TOMCAT_HOME To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Nov 14 1:59:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67D637B405 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 01:59:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:59:36 +0100 Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA0A5@l04.research.kpn.com> From: "Koster, K.J." To: 'Ernst de Haan' , Rob Simmons Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: another orion question Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:59:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Ernst and Rob, > > > I have another question. I have a shared box that I'm trying to run > > multiple instances of orion on. I am able to get each > > instance to listen > > on different IP addresses, but orion starts a listener on > > port 23791 on > > its own. Is there a way to get the orion instances to open > > this port separately on each IP address? > I've been wondering if it's possible to jail a whole tribe of Orion instances, each in a slammer of their own. This would solve the port 23791 problem, as well as allow users to have ssh access to "their" instance in a fairly safe way. That port is part of a protocol for remote management of Orion. I think admin.jar is the guilty party here. I remember playing with it, but tossing it aside since it did nothing that I could not do with cp(1) and kill(1). :) Kees Jan ================================================ You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Nov 14 8:59:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wlcg.com (mail.wlcg.com [198.92.199.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EEF37B432 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:59:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAEGxj125838; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:59:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons@wlcg.com) Received: from localhost (rsimmons@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with ESMTP id fAEGxix25831; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:59:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons@wlcg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.wlcg.com: rsimmons owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:59:41 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Simmons To: Markus Holmberg Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: another orion question In-Reply-To: <878zd9eb4a.fsf@localhost.stacktrace.org> Message-ID: <20011114115901.H25726-100000@mail.wlcg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 I've just submitted a PR with a patch that allows for this port to be configured during install. Robert Simmons Systems Administrator http://www.wlcg.com/ On 14 Nov 2001, Markus Holmberg wrote: > "Koster, K.J." writes: > > > > > I have another question. I have a shared box that I'm trying to run > > > > multiple instances of orion on. I am able to get each > > > > instance to listen > > > > on different IP addresses, but orion starts a listener on > > > > port 23791 on > > > > its own. Is there a way to get the orion instances to open > > > > this port separately on each IP address? > > > > > I've been wondering if it's possible to jail a whole tribe of Orion > > instances, each in a slammer of their own. This would solve the port 23791 > > problem, as well as allow users to have ssh access to "their" instance in a > > fairly safe way. > > Regarding port 23791: This is the default port for Orion's RMI > registry. It can be configured by adding a "port" attribute to the > "rmi-server" element in orion/config/rmi.xml. (Same goes for the JMS > server on port 9127, in jms.xml) > > Regards, Markus. > > -- > Markus Holmberg > markush@acc.umu.se > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE78qMAv8Bofna59hYRA3zWAKCXvyLmMly0Rzu+9lAd6LVh6sbAgQCfTAE6 Zc2HLps71qK86D9GN33WxVM= =9ZEr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Nov 14 9:12: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A411237B416 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:11:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAEH9In48893; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:09:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111141709.fAEH9In48893@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan Organization: Jollem Information Technology To: Rob Simmons , Markus Holmberg Subject: Re: another orion question Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:09:18 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org References: <20011114115901.H25726-100000@mail.wlcg.com> In-Reply-To: <20011114115901.H25726-100000@mail.wlcg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok. What is the PR number? Did you CC the maintainer (me) too? Ernst On Wednesday 14 November 2001 17:59, Rob Simmons wrote: > I've just submitted a PR with a patch that allows for this port to be > configured during install. > > Robert Simmons > Systems Administrator > http://www.wlcg.com/ > > On 14 Nov 2001, Markus Holmberg wrote: > > "Koster, K.J." writes: > > > > > I have another question. I have a shared box that I'm trying to > > > > > run multiple instances of orion on. I am able to get each > > > > > instance to listen > > > > > on different IP addresses, but orion starts a listener on > > > > > port 23791 on > > > > > its own. Is there a way to get the orion instances to open > > > > > this port separately on each IP address? > > > > > > I've been wondering if it's possible to jail a whole tribe of Orion > > > instances, each in a slammer of their own. This would solve the port > > > 23791 problem, as well as allow users to have ssh access to "their" > > > instance in a fairly safe way. > > > > Regarding port 23791: This is the default port for Orion's RMI > > registry. It can be configured by adding a "port" attribute to the > > "rmi-server" element in orion/config/rmi.xml. (Same goes for the JMS > > server on port 9127, in jms.xml) > > > > Regards, Markus. > > > > -- > > Markus Holmberg > > markush@acc.umu.se > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message -- Ernst de Haan EuroNet Internet B.V. "Come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Nov 14 9:12:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from khan.acc.umu.se (khan.acc.umu.se [130.239.18.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41F437B418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:12:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from shaka.acc.umu.se (daemon@shaka.acc.umu.se [130.239.18.148]) by khan.acc.umu.se (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAEHCYb26010; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:12:34 +0100 (MET) Received: (from markush@localhost) by shaka.acc.umu.se (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fAEHCY823647; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:12:34 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:12:33 +0100 From: Markus Holmberg To: Rob Simmons Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: another orion question Message-ID: <20011114181233.A23420@acc.umu.se> References: <878zd9eb4a.fsf@localhost.stacktrace.org> <20011114115901.H25726-100000@mail.wlcg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3-current-20000511i In-Reply-To: <20011114115901.H25726-100000@mail.wlcg.com>; from rsimmons@wlcg.com on Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:59:41AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I appreciate that you are contributing a patch, but I have to voice my opinion about adding application configuration logic (as opposed to build configuration logic) into the port. Is it really sensible to do this? There are hundreds of options that could need configuration (in an application server), where should it stop? The normal case is to run one instance per machine. For more complex configurations the orion/config/rmi.xml and others can be edited easily. Regards, Markus. On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:59:41AM -0500, Rob Simmons wrote: > I've just submitted a PR with a patch that allows for this port to be > configured during install. > > Robert Simmons > Systems Administrator > http://www.wlcg.com/ -- Markus Holmberg markush@acc.umu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Nov 14 9:17: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wlcg.com (mail.wlcg.com [198.92.199.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C66B37B43F for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:16:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAEHGsj26656; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:16:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons@wlcg.com) Received: from localhost (rsimmons@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with ESMTP id fAEHGrI26649; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:16:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons@wlcg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.wlcg.com: rsimmons owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:16:50 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Simmons To: Markus Holmberg Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: another orion question In-Reply-To: <20011114181233.A23420@acc.umu.se> Message-ID: <20011114121350.G26183-100000@mail.wlcg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 I agree that there are many things that should be kept out of the install phase. I also think that anything that is started by default (server itself and rmi server) should be configured, or at least have the option for configuration during install. This makes it easier to deploy multiple instances of orion on one server (as I have to do). If the patch doesn't get into the port, fine, I just figured it would help others in my situation. Robert Simmons Systems Administrator http://www.wlcg.com/ On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Markus Holmberg wrote: > I appreciate that you are contributing a patch, but I have to voice > my opinion about adding application configuration logic (as opposed to > build configuration logic) into the port. > > Is it really sensible to do this? There are hundreds of options that > could need configuration (in an application server), where should it stop? > > The normal case is to run one instance per machine. For more complex > configurations the orion/config/rmi.xml and others can be edited easily. > > Regards, Markus. > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:59:41AM -0500, Rob Simmons wrote: > > I've just submitted a PR with a patch that allows for this port to be > > configured during install. > > > > Robert Simmons > > Systems Administrator > > http://www.wlcg.com/ > > -- > > Markus Holmberg > markush@acc.umu.se > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE78qcFv8Bofna59hYRAwh5AKCzmgFHfm7huDJghWGjYOlsCkHl2gCgnBhI PGYkiK9I5urot5DIqARBCAI= =9YHT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Nov 14 9:18:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2988137B419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAEHHqu50091; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:17:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111141717.fAEHHqu50091@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan To: Markus Holmberg , Rob Simmons Subject: Re: another orion question Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:17:52 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org References: <878zd9eb4a.fsf@localhost.stacktrace.org> <20011114115901.H25726-100000@mail.wlcg.com> <20011114181233.A23420@acc.umu.se> In-Reply-To: <20011114181233.A23420@acc.umu.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Markus, You have a valid point. I already put some configuration options in the port build file. Perhaps I went too far. I dunno. I will reconsider. Any more thoughts on this? The current set of options is (from a make install): Installation settings: Destination directory: /usr/local/orion1.4.5 Control script location: /usr/local/bin/orionctl Startup script location: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/orion.sh Startup script location: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/orion.sh Location of JDK: /usr/local/jdk1.3.1 Using Jikes: YES Running as (user/group): orion/orion (7104:7104) Port to listen at: 8090 Starting after install: YES Ernst On Wednesday 14 November 2001 18:12, Markus Holmberg wrote: > I appreciate that you are contributing a patch, but I have to voice > my opinion about adding application configuration logic (as opposed to > build configuration logic) into the port. > > Is it really sensible to do this? There are hundreds of options that > could need configuration (in an application server), where should it stop? > > The normal case is to run one instance per machine. For more complex > configurations the orion/config/rmi.xml and others can be edited easily. > > Regards, Markus. > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:59:41AM -0500, Rob Simmons wrote: > > I've just submitted a PR with a patch that allows for this port to be > > configured during install. > > > > Robert Simmons > > Systems Administrator > > http://www.wlcg.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Nov 14 9:24:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wlcg.com (mail.wlcg.com [198.92.199.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A1537B405 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:24:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAEHOWT26968 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:24:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons@wlcg.com) Received: from localhost (rsimmons@localhost) by mail.wlcg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with ESMTP id fAEHOVs26956 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:24:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rsimmons@wlcg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.wlcg.com: rsimmons owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:24:27 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Simmons To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: another orion question In-Reply-To: <200111141709.fAEH9In48893@zaphod.euronet.nl> Message-ID: <20011114121750.J26183-100000@mail.wlcg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 The PR # is 31984. I could not CC you. My mailserver was unable to get an MX lookup (or any lookup for that matter) for jollem.com. Sorry :( Robert Simmons Systems Administrator http://www.wlcg.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE78qjPv8Bofna59hYRA9QdAKCTBFgDYCfZN+oWdqnkjC67hkw2JwCgoNlw UoGBf0XZOM1FGsbH9VbfrkU= =9EDV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Nov 14 9:29:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1993D37B416 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAEHTQ450122; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:29:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111141729.fAEHTQ450122@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan To: Rob Simmons , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: another orion question Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:29:25 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20011114121750.J26183-100000@mail.wlcg.com> In-Reply-To: <20011114121750.J26183-100000@mail.wlcg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rob, Yeah, sorry, jollem.com is having difficulties. Use znerd@freebsd.org next time. Ernst On Wednesday 14 November 2001 18:24, Rob Simmons wrote: > The PR # is 31984. > > I could not CC you. My mailserver was unable to get an MX lookup (or any > lookup for that matter) for jollem.com. > > Sorry :( > > Robert Simmons > Systems Administrator > http://www.wlcg.com/ > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Nov 14 9:37:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from khan.acc.umu.se (khan.acc.umu.se [130.239.18.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C619B37B416; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:37:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from shaka.acc.umu.se (daemon@shaka.acc.umu.se [130.239.18.148]) by khan.acc.umu.se (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAEHbYb14016; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:37:34 +0100 (MET) Received: (from markush@localhost) by shaka.acc.umu.se (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fAEHbXM23901; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:37:33 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:37:33 +0100 From: Markus Holmberg To: Ernst de Haan Cc: Rob Simmons , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: another orion question Message-ID: <20011114183733.A23715@acc.umu.se> References: <878zd9eb4a.fsf@localhost.stacktrace.org> <20011114115901.H25726-100000@mail.wlcg.com> <20011114181233.A23420@acc.umu.se> <200111141717.fAEHHqu50091@zaphod.euronet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3-current-20000511i In-Reply-To: <200111141717.fAEHHqu50091@zaphod.euronet.nl>; from znerd@freebsd.org on Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:17:52PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ernst, IMO, the port is very thorough and well done. Personally I think all non-critical modifications to the installed configuration files are excessive. But then again, I'm very accustomed to Orion. The modifications your port does (the Jikes thing for example) are likely very helpful to newcomers and are not hurting me. Regards, Markus. On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:17:52PM +0100, Ernst de Haan wrote: > Markus, > > You have a valid point. I already put some configuration options in the port > build file. Perhaps I went too far. I dunno. I will reconsider. Any more > thoughts on this? > > The current set of options is (from a make install): > > Installation settings: > Destination directory: /usr/local/orion1.4.5 > Control script location: /usr/local/bin/orionctl > Startup script location: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/orion.sh > Startup script location: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/orion.sh > Location of JDK: /usr/local/jdk1.3.1 > Using Jikes: YES > Running as (user/group): orion/orion (7104:7104) > Port to listen at: 8090 > Starting after install: YES > > Ernst -- Markus Holmberg markush@acc.umu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Nov 14 11: 0:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.shikoku.ne.jp (smtp.shikoku.ne.jp [210.143.160.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 217FA37B418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:59:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 52589 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2001 18:57:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (210.143.174.97) by smtp.shikoku.ne.jp with SMTP; 14 Nov 2001 18:57:37 -0000 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 03:59:05 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20011115.035904.71100979.nin@smtp.shikoku.ne.jp> To: ernst@jollem.com Cc: ports@freebsd.org, java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port for JBuilder ? From: NINOMIYA Hideyuki In-Reply-To: <20011003232140.A10035@c104187.upc-c.chello.nl> References: <20011003232140.A10035@c104187.upc-c.chello.nl> X-cite-me: nin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6C59 EC08 5B23 6490 44D0 7CD3 DA40 219F 7114 8553 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://user.shikoku.ne.jp/~nin/pgp/public-key.txt X-URI: http://user.shikoku.ne.jp/~nin/index.html X-URI: http://home.Jp.FreeBSD.org/~nin/index.html X-Mailer: Mew version 3.0.50 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello # Because I do not subscribe for java@freebsd.org, please do CC Ernst de Haan wrote: date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 23:21:40 +0200 Subject: Port for JBuilder ? Message-Id: <20011003232140.A10035@c104187.upc-c.chello.nl> > Has there been any attempt to create a port for JBuilder 5 ? http://home.jp.FreeBSD/~nin/files/jbuilder-personal.tgz This is the port that I made. I can install it with my environment nicely and work on native version jdk.1.3.1p5. But there was a person not to succeed therefore. If this is useful for you, please test this. And I request with more a lot of testing results and Tips of improvement in order to let this port be useful more. I think to send-pr as new port if able to identify that this port does not have a problem. Please comment to me. Thanks. ---- *************************************************************** * This message is a thing by output of automatic translation. * * Therefore it will be for there to be a lot of funny parts. * * Please approve it. * *************************************************************** NINOMIYA(family name) Hideyuki(fast name) @ ehime japan mailto:nin@shikoku.ne.jp mailto:nin@Jp.FreeBSD.org PGP-Fingerprint:6C59 EC08 5B23 6490 44D0 7CD3 DA40 219F 7114 8553 PGP-Public-Key: http://user.shikoku.ne.jp/~nin/pgp/public-key.txt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Wed Nov 14 21:10: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from neurotic.dyndns.org (con-208-30-235-155-tac.sprinthome.com [208.30.235.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEF937B405 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 21:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from seek3r@localhost) by neurotic.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fAF5Cqk06631 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 21:12:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from seek3r) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 21:12:52 -0800 (PST) From: seek3r Message-Id: <200111150512.fAF5Cqk06631@neurotic.dyndns.org> To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: JDK 1.3.1 on Freebsd? Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I've decided to use java with my bsd box only im not sure how to implement that. Ive used java on linux for some time but find linux to be derivative. Id love to use java on my bsd box, but is 1.3.1 really available on freebsd? Is the hotspot JIT part of that jdk port? If not, would you recommend that I instead build 1.2.2 with an alternative JIT to run my jsp applications? Some suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ps - which alternate opensource JITs would you recommend? Also, is IBM's famed JDK for linux performing well on bsd in linux mode? thanks, Mel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Nov 15 0:54:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C2137B419; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 00:54:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAF8sHC52251; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:54:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111150854.fAF8sHC52251@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan To: NINOMIYA Hideyuki Subject: Re: Port for JBuilder ? Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:54:17 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: ports@freebsd.org, java@freebsd.org References: <20011003232140.A10035@c104187.upc-c.chello.nl> <20011115.035904.71100979.nin@smtp.shikoku.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: <20011115.035904.71100979.nin@smtp.shikoku.ne.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The URL should be: > http://home.jp.FreeBSD/~nin/files/jbuilder-personal.tgz * http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~nin/files/jbuilder-personal.tgz And an alternative download location here: * http://www.metaverse.nl/~ernst/jbuilder-personal.tgz -- Ernst znerd@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Nov 15 5:46:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mgr1.xmission.com (mgr1.xmission.com [198.60.22.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54ABA37B405 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 05:46:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [166.70.8.233] (helo=misty.eyesbeyond.com) by mgr1.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 164Mqg-0004f5-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:46:34 -0700 Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAFDkUQ82734; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 00:16:30 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from glewis) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 00:16:29 +1030 From: Greg Lewis To: seek3r Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: JDK 1.3.1 on Freebsd? Message-ID: <20011116001629.A82712@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <200111150512.fAF5Cqk06631@neurotic.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111150512.fAF5Cqk06631@neurotic.dyndns.org>; from seek3r@neurotic.dyndns.org on Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 09:12:52PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 09:12:52PM -0800, seek3r wrote: > I've decided to use java with my bsd box only im not sure how to implement > that. Ive used java on linux for some time but find linux to be derivative. > > Id love to use java on my bsd box, but is 1.3.1 really available on freebsd? Yes, the core JDK is ported and appears to work quite well. Its not completely bug free, but people are certainly reporting that major applications are working well with it. Its currently missing a working browser plugin, fully functional native threads and HotSpot. > Is the hotspot JIT part of that jdk port? If not, would you recommend > that I instead build 1.2.2 with an alternative JIT to run my jsp applications? No HotSpot port has been done yet. I haven't tried any other JITs, but OpenJIT and shuJIT are both known to work with 1.3.1. With 1.2.2 its known that OpenJIT, shuJIT and TYA work at least. > Some suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'd recommend using 1.3.1 over 1.2.2 as people's time is much more focused in that direction at the moment. > ps - which alternate opensource JITs would you recommend? Also, is IBM's > famed JDK for linux performing well on bsd in linux mode? The IBM JDK works under Linux emulation. -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Phone : (801) 765 1887 Information Technology Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Nov 15 5:52:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF9637B417 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 05:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAFDpTD53158; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:51:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111151351.fAFDpTD53158@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan Organization: Jollem Information Technology To: Greg Lewis , seek3r Subject: IBM JDK on FreeBSD (Was: JDK 1.3.1 on Freebsd?) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:51:28 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200111150512.fAF5Cqk06631@neurotic.dyndns.org> <20011116001629.A82712@misty.eyesbeyond.com> In-Reply-To: <20011116001629.A82712@misty.eyesbeyond.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > ps - which alternate opensource JITs would you recommend? Also, is IBM's > > famed JDK for linux performing well on bsd in linux mode? > > The IBM JDK works under Linux emulation. I think he asked if it _performed_ well under FreeBSD. Personally I dunno, and I've never heard of anyone running any serious stuff on the IBM JDK under FreeBSD. Any such reports? Anyone using the IBM JDK? Ernst -- Ernst de Haan EuroNet Internet B.V. "Come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Nov 15 6: 8:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD1437B416; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:08:11 +0100 Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA0B0@l04.research.kpn.com> From: "Koster, K.J." To: 'Andrew Atrens' , "FreeBSD Java mailing list (E-mail)" Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: linux JVMs not handling SEGV well. Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:08:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ CC'd to freebsd-java, please followup there too ] Dear Andrew, This question is better asked on -java, so I forwarded you question. There are many hardcore JVM hackers on that list. > > I'm using 4.x-stable, linux-base-6.x, and am encountering a lot of > turbulence with both Sun's jdk1.3.x HotSpot JVM and IBM's > linux jdk1.3.x JVM. > Well, considering that technically we don't actually have any Java VM post 1.1.8... :-) > > I have a buggy 3rdparty java app that occasionally causes a > null pointer > exception to be thrown. While not fatal for the app (the exception is > correctly caught), it's most often fatal for the JVM. The SUN > jvm SEGV's ( > doesn't correctly catch the SIGNAL ), while the IBM jvm seems to get > locked in kernel mode - only responding to SIGKILL and > chewing up tons of > 'system' cpu time. The common denominator here is that both > JITs utilize > linux threads. When I use a non-threaded JIT, the problem > doesn't occur. > > The problem is readily reproducible, but I'm not sure how to debug it. > I've played with truss and ktrace, but I think it's time to > begin thinking > about using the kernel debugger. > Could you perhaps provide a simple code sample that allows us to reproduce the problem? Kees Jan ================================================ You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Nov 15 9:29:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from dbaol.com (dbaol.com [216.55.6.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E5437B43A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:29:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from jtv ([212.98.161.197]) by dbaol.com (8.11.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id fAFHT8d23532 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:29:09 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <00b101c16dfb$093176a0$0a1ea8c0@jtv> From: "Jaroslav Tkachov" To: References: <200111150512.fAF5Cqk06631@neurotic.dyndns.org> <20011116001629.A82712@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <200111151351.fAFDpTD53158@zaphod.euronet.nl> Subject: Re: IBM JDK on FreeBSD (Was: JDK 1.3.1 on Freebsd?) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:29:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > > > ps - which alternate opensource JITs would you recommend? Also, is IBM's > > > famed JDK for linux performing well on bsd in linux mode? > > > > The IBM JDK works under Linux emulation. > > I think he asked if it _performed_ well under FreeBSD. Personally I dunno, > and I've never heard of anyone running any serious stuff on the IBM JDK under > FreeBSD. Any such reports? Anyone using the IBM JDK? I use the IBM JDK under Free BSD Linux emulation for large multithreaded network application. And i found several bugs: 1. incorrect SO_TIMEOUT support in case of several simultaneously open connections. 2. infinite loop in some hashtable.get(null). and so on. But perfomance of IBM JDK is great! I will try to avoid this bugs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernst de Haan" To: "Greg Lewis" ; "seek3r" Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:51 PM Subject: IBM JDK on FreeBSD (Was: JDK 1.3.1 on Freebsd?) > > Ernst > > -- > Ernst de Haan > EuroNet Internet B.V. > > "Come to me all who are weary and burdened > and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Nov 15 13: 2:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4684F37B418; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 13:02:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from johncoop.MSHOME (drumheller-router.bmi.net [206.63.201.3] (may be forged)) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09546; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 21:09:49 -0800 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 13:02:02 -0800 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: A Modest Proposal for Java(tm) dependency selection among ports Message-ID: <20011115130202.E33074@johncoop.MSHOME> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.2.3 Lines: 61 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a problem and a proposed solution regarding Java(tm) ports. First, the problem: reflecting the range of JDK/JRE's that a given port will operate under while trying not to force the end user to install all three of the native JDK's (if not necessary). For example: NetRexx 2.02 (still waiting for a committer to take it under his/her wing) will run under either 1.1.8, 1.2.2, or 1.3.1, PROVIDED that the CLASSPATH or NETREXX_JAVA environment variables are properly setup for desired JDK. On the other hand, JGNAT-1.1p, while it theoretically works with JDK 1.1.8, in practice is very unhappy unless a Java2 JDK (1.2.2 or 1.3.1) is setup. Again, the CLASSPATH must be properly setup for the particular JDK. I'm sure other examples will come to mind. :) Now the proposed solution: bsd.port.mk (probably through a bsd.java.mk) would provide the following knobs: USE_JAVA=[yes|no] knob will succeed on any of JDK's 1.3.1, 1.2.2, or 1.1.8 IN THAT ORDER (latest version first) USE_JAVA2=[yes|no] knob will succeed on either JDK 1.3.1 or 1.2.2 IN THAT ORDER USE_JAVA11=[yes|no] knob will succeed on ONLY JDK 1.1.8 WANT_LINUX_JAVA=[yes|no] same as above except Linux version Java's are used and USE_JAVA11 will abort build. WANT_JRE_ONLY=[yes|no] same as above except a JRE will be used instead of a JDK, if available JAVA_VER reports Java(tm) detected or built by USE_JAVA* Ports that are not picky will use whatever JDK is installed, and ports that are will install a JDK/JRE as appropriate. Doubtless, there are some other ways to do this--and I'm no Makefile maven--but I think something along these lines needs to be done to reduce the chaos level in the java portion of the ports tree. YMMV. -- jmc || MacroHard -- \ || the perfection of form over | ----------------------------------|| substance, marketing over | Web: http://www.borgsdemons.com || performance, and greed over | || design . . . | =======================================================================/ Public Key: http://www.borgsdemons.com/Personal/pgpkey.asc | =======================================================================\ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Nov 15 16:24:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zcars0m9.nortelnetworks.com (zcars0m9.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C541737B416 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:24:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from zcars04f.ca.nortel.com (zcars04f.ca.nortel.com [47.129.242.57]) by zcars0m9.nortelnetworks.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAG0NtS29481 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04f.ca.nortel.com; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:24:08 -0500 Received: from zcard0ka.ca.nortel.com ([47.129.242.162]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W99N1WHJ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:23:15 -0500 Received: from hcarp00g (hcarp00g.ca.nortel.com [47.196.31.114]) by zcard0ka.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id PX30TH9L; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:23:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:25:41 -0500 (EST) X-Sybari-Space: 00000000 00000000 00000000 From: "Andrew Atrens" X-X-Sender: atrens@hcarp00g.ca.nortel.com To: java@freebsd.org Subject: Small prog to demonstrate linux-jdk1.3.x signal handling problem. Message-ID: <20011115191406.M1158-100000@hcarp00g.ca.nortel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orig: Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All, Here is a small program which kills both (linux) Sun JDK 1.3.x/1.4.x Hotspot JVM, _and_ the (linux) IBM JDK 1.3.0 JVM. The Sun JVMs will SEGV. The IBM JVM 'runs away' and is unreponsive to anything but SIGKILL. Cheers, Andrew. import java.io.*; public class ClientOfDeath { static String s = null; public static void main(String[] args) throws IOException { for (;;) { s = null; try { s.compareTo(""); } catch (NullPointerException n) { s = ""; } } } } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Thu Nov 15 23:27:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507CB37B416; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 23:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from johncoop.MSHOME (drumheller-router.bmi.net [206.63.201.3] (may be forged)) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07040; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 07:35:22 -0800 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 13:02:02 -0800 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: A Modest Proposal for Java(tm) dependency selection among ports Message-ID: <20011115130202.E33074@johncoop.MSHOME> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.2.3 Lines: 61 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a problem and a proposed solution regarding Java(tm) ports. First, the problem: reflecting the range of JDK/JRE's that a given port will operate under while trying not to force the end user to install all three of the native JDK's (if not necessary). For example: NetRexx 2.02 (still waiting for a committer to take it under his/her wing) will run under either 1.1.8, 1.2.2, or 1.3.1, PROVIDED that the CLASSPATH or NETREXX_JAVA environment variables are properly setup for desired JDK. On the other hand, JGNAT-1.1p, while it theoretically works with JDK 1.1.8, in practice is very unhappy unless a Java2 JDK (1.2.2 or 1.3.1) is setup. Again, the CLASSPATH must be properly setup for the particular JDK. I'm sure other examples will come to mind. :) Now the proposed solution: bsd.port.mk (probably through a bsd.java.mk) would provide the following knobs: USE_JAVA=[yes|no] knob will succeed on any of JDK's 1.3.1, 1.2.2, or 1.1.8 IN THAT ORDER (latest version first) USE_JAVA2=[yes|no] knob will succeed on either JDK 1.3.1 or 1.2.2 IN THAT ORDER USE_JAVA11=[yes|no] knob will succeed on ONLY JDK 1.1.8 WANT_LINUX_JAVA=[yes|no] same as above except Linux version Java's are used and USE_JAVA11 will abort build. WANT_JRE_ONLY=[yes|no] same as above except a JRE will be used instead of a JDK, if available JAVA_VER reports Java(tm) detected or built by USE_JAVA* Ports that are not picky will use whatever JDK is installed, and ports that are will install a JDK/JRE as appropriate. Doubtless, there are some other ways to do this--and I'm no Makefile maven--but I think something along these lines needs to be done to reduce the chaos level in the java portion of the ports tree. YMMV. -- jmc || MacroHard -- \ || the perfection of form over | ----------------------------------|| substance, marketing over | Web: http://www.borgsdemons.com || performance, and greed over | || design . . . | =======================================================================/ Public Key: http://www.borgsdemons.com/Personal/pgpkey.asc | =======================================================================\ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Nov 16 1: 4:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EC137B416 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 01:04:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:04:12 +0100 Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA0BA@l04.research.kpn.com> From: "Koster, K.J." To: 'Andrew Atrens' Cc: java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Small prog to demonstrate linux-jdk1.3.x signal handling prob lem. Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:04:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Andrew, > > Here is a small program which kills both (linux) Sun JDK > 1.3.x/1.4.x Hotspot JVM, _and_ the (linux) IBM JDK 1.3.0 JVM. > Thanks for the code. > > The Sun JVMs will SEGV. The IBM JVM 'runs away' and is > unreponsive to anything but SIGKILL. > Hmm. I'm running it on my box now. It hasn't died yet and reponds to ^C just fine. My system uses the Linux JDK 1.3.1 port rev. 1, linux_base 6.1, freebsd 4.4-stable as of november 1st. Is it supposed to SEGV immediately or after running for some time? Kees Jan ================================================ You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Nov 16 1:40:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from espresso.syncrontech.com (espresso-adsl.syncrontech.com [213.28.98.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EBA37B417 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 01:40:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (coffee.syncrontech.com [62.71.8.37]) by espresso.syncrontech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA57254; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:40:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ari.suutari@syncrontech.com) Message-Id: <200111160940.LAA57254@espresso.syncrontech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ari Suutari To: "Koster, K.J." , "'Andrew Atrens'" Subject: Re: Small prog to demonstrate linux-jdk1.3.x signal handling prob lem. Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:37:54 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Cc: java@FreeBSD.ORG References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA0BA@l04.research.kpn.com> In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA0BA@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Friday 16 November 2001 11:04, Koster, K.J. wrote: > Dear Andrew, > > > Here is a small program which kills both (linux) Sun JDK > > 1.3.x/1.4.x Hotspot JVM, _and_ the (linux) IBM JDK 1.3.0 JVM. > > Thanks for the code. > > > The Sun JVMs will SEGV. The IBM JVM 'runs away' and is > > unreponsive to anything but SIGKILL. > > Hmm. I'm running it on my box now. It hasn't died yet and reponds to ^C > just fine. My system uses the Linux JDK 1.3.1 port rev. 1, linux_base 6.1, > freebsd 4.4-stable as of november 1st. > > Is it supposed to SEGV immediately or after running for some time? > Maybe you shoud try it with -hotspot ? Without hotspot, Linux JDK seems to work quite well (but performance sucks). With hotspot, hardly anything except "Hello World" -type programs seem to work.... Ari S. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Nov 16 2:42:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E16637B419; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 02:42:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAGAg8V55897; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:42:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111161042.fAGAg8V55897@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan To: John Merryweather Cooper , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal for Java(tm) dependency selection among ports Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:42:08 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20011115130202.E33074@johncoop.MSHOME> In-Reply-To: <20011115130202.E33074@johncoop.MSHOME> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John, The problem you are addressing is one that has been discussed a few times before. But up until now, no solution was implemented. Now that I'm a member of the FreeBSD Project, I'm determined to find a solution for this. :-) > bsd.port.mk (probably through a bsd.java.mk) would provide the > following knobs: So far this sounds good. > USE_JAVA=[yes|no] knob will succeed on any of JDK's 1.3.1, > 1.2.2, or 1.1.8 IN THAT ORDER (latest > version first) > USE_JAVA2=[yes|no] knob will succeed on either JDK 1.3.1 or > 1.2.2 IN THAT ORDER > USE_JAVA11=[yes|no] knob will succeed on ONLY JDK 1.1.8 I'm suggestion a solution that's a bit different: If a port wants to use Java, then it should set either of the following flags: [ Note that a JDK is a JRE plus development tools ] USE_JAVA=[yes|no] --> This port needs any JRE/JDK, version 1.1 or higher. If a JRE/JDK is installed, then this port will succeed. If not, then any JRE will be installed. The preference order for a JRE/JDK to be installed is stored somewhere in /usr/ports/Mk and it should be possible to override this setting in some config file, similar to the way the order for GNOME download sites can be tweaked. Preferrably the order should take the following rules into account: [1] A JRE/JDK with a higher version number is preferred over one with a lower version number [2] A native FreeBSD JDK/JRE is preferred over a non-native JDK [3] A JRE/JDK that has no dependencies on other JDKs is preferred over a JDK that does [4] A JRE/JDK that can be installed without fetching any files manually is preferred over one that fails with a message like "You must manually fetch the JDK from , place it in /usr/ports/distfiles and then run make again" [5] A JRE is preferred over a JDK USE_JAVA_1_1=[yes|no] --> This is synonymous to USE_JAVA USE_JAVA_1_2=[yes|no] --> This port needs any JRE/JDK (1.2+). If a JRE/JDK 1.2 port is installed, then this port will install, otherwise it will fail, *or* (preferrably!!!!) install a JRE/JDK, using the rules layed out above USE_JAVA_1_3=[yes|no] --> Similar to USE_JAVA_1_2, but then 1.3 i.s.o. 1.2 USE_JAVA_1_4=[yes|no] --> Similar to USE_JAVA_1_3, but for 1.4 i.s.o. 1.3 USE_JDK=[yes|no] --> Similar for USE_JAVA, but now mandates a JDK, just a JRE won't do USE_JDK_11=[yes|no] --> Synonym for USE_JDK USE_JDK_12=[yes|no] --> See USE_JDK_11, but for 1.2 i.s.o. 1.1 USE_JDK_13=[yes|no] --> See USE_JDK_12, but for 1.3 i.s.o. 1.2 USE_JDK_14=[yes|no] --> See USE_JDK_13, but for 1.4 i.s.o. 1.3 > WANT_LINUX_JAVA=[yes|no] > same as above except Linux version Java's > are used and USE_JAVA11 will abort build. I suggest not introducing this flag in the first phase. We can discuss it's usefullness later. > WANT_JRE_ONLY=[yes|no] > same as above except a JRE will be used > instead of a JDK, if available See above proposed solution. > JAVA_VER reports Java(tm) detected or built by > USE_JAVA* Hmm, what *exactly* would you like this variable to return as its value? Ernst -- Ernst de Haan EuroNet Internet B.V. "Come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Nov 16 3:17:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653CE37B405; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 03:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAGBH1B00795; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:17:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111161117.fAGBH1B00795@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan To: John Merryweather Cooper , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal for Java(tm) dependency selection among ports Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:17:01 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20011115130202.E33074@johncoop.MSHOME> <200111161042.fAGAg8V55897@zaphod.euronet.nl> In-Reply-To: <200111161042.fAGAg8V55897@zaphod.euronet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After a little extra thought, here's an addition: The USE_JAVA* and USE_JDK* flags are used in the Makefile by the port writer to specify what the port needs. After the bsd.port.pre is included, the port writer gets some flags in return that specify what the JRE/JDK is that is selected by the system. For this I propose the following: JAVA_VER_MAJOR=1 <-- Currently always 1 JAVA_VER_MEDIOR=[1|2|3|4] <-- For JDK 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 JAVA_MINOR=[1..x] <-- Is 0 for JDK 1.3.0 or 1.4.0, is 1 for 1.3.1, etc. JAVA_MANUFACTURER <-- Currently either Sun, Blackdown, IBM, or FreeBSD JAVA_VERSION <-- Complete version, (1.1.8, 1.2.2b10, 1.3.1, 1.4.0b3, etc.) JAVA_PLATFORM=[linux|freebsd] <-- The target platform JAVA_JRE=[yes|no] <-- no for a JDK, yes for a JRE JAVA_JDK=[yes|no] <-- yes for a JDK, no for a JRE JRE_HOME <-- Points to the JRE base dir, like /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre JDK_HOME <-- Only for JDKs: For example /usr/local/linux-jdk1.3.1 Any other suggestions or comments? Ernst On Friday 16 November 2001 11:42, Ernst de Haan wrote: > John, > > The problem you are addressing is one that has been discussed a few times > before. But up until now, no solution was implemented. Now that I'm a > member of the FreeBSD Project, I'm determined to find a solution for this. > :-) > > > bsd.port.mk (probably through a bsd.java.mk) would provide the > > following knobs: > > So far this sounds good. > > > USE_JAVA=[yes|no] knob will succeed on any of JDK's 1.3.1, > > 1.2.2, or 1.1.8 IN THAT ORDER (latest > > version first) > > USE_JAVA2=[yes|no] knob will succeed on either JDK 1.3.1 or > > 1.2.2 IN THAT ORDER > > USE_JAVA11=[yes|no] knob will succeed on ONLY JDK 1.1.8 > > I'm suggestion a solution that's a bit different: If a port wants to use > Java, then it should set either of the following flags: > > [ Note that a JDK is a JRE plus development tools ] > > USE_JAVA=[yes|no] --> This port needs any JRE/JDK, version 1.1 or higher. > If a JRE/JDK is installed, then this port will succeed. If not, then any > JRE will be installed. The preference order for a JRE/JDK to be installed > is stored somewhere in /usr/ports/Mk and it should be possible to override > this setting in some config file, similar to the way the order for GNOME > download sites can be tweaked. > Preferrably the order should take the following rules into account: > [1] A JRE/JDK with a higher version number is preferred over one with a > lower version number > [2] A native FreeBSD JDK/JRE is preferred over a non-native JDK > [3] A JRE/JDK that has no dependencies on other JDKs is preferred over a > JDK that does > [4] A JRE/JDK that can be installed without fetching any files manually is > preferred over one that fails with a message like "You must manually fetch > the JDK from , place it in /usr/ports/distfiles and > then run make again" > [5] A JRE is preferred over a JDK > > USE_JAVA_1_1=[yes|no] --> This is synonymous to USE_JAVA > > USE_JAVA_1_2=[yes|no] --> This port needs any JRE/JDK (1.2+). If a JRE/JDK > 1.2 port is installed, then this port will install, otherwise it will fail, > *or* (preferrably!!!!) install a JRE/JDK, using the rules layed out above > > USE_JAVA_1_3=[yes|no] --> Similar to USE_JAVA_1_2, but then 1.3 i.s.o. 1.2 > > USE_JAVA_1_4=[yes|no] --> Similar to USE_JAVA_1_3, but for 1.4 i.s.o. 1.3 > > USE_JDK=[yes|no] --> Similar for USE_JAVA, but now mandates a JDK, just a > JRE won't do > > USE_JDK_11=[yes|no] --> Synonym for USE_JDK > > USE_JDK_12=[yes|no] --> See USE_JDK_11, but for 1.2 i.s.o. 1.1 > > USE_JDK_13=[yes|no] --> See USE_JDK_12, but for 1.3 i.s.o. 1.2 > > USE_JDK_14=[yes|no] --> See USE_JDK_13, but for 1.4 i.s.o. 1.3 > > > WANT_LINUX_JAVA=[yes|no] > > same as above except Linux version Java's > > are used and USE_JAVA11 will abort build. > > I suggest not introducing this flag in the first phase. We can discuss it's > usefullness later. > > > WANT_JRE_ONLY=[yes|no] > > same as above except a JRE will be used > > instead of a JDK, if available > > See above proposed solution. > > > JAVA_VER reports Java(tm) detected or built by > > USE_JAVA* > > Hmm, what *exactly* would you like this variable to return as its value? > > > > Ernst -- Ernst de Haan EuroNet Internet B.V. "Come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Nov 16 6:28: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from zcars0m9.nortelnetworks.com (zcars0m9.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9800F37B417 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 06:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from zcars04e.ca.nortel.com (zcars04e.ca.nortel.com [47.129.242.56]) by zcars0m9.nortelnetworks.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAGERES25807 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:27:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04e.ca.nortel.com; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:27:50 -0500 Received: from zcard0ka.ca.nortel.com ([47.129.242.162]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W99NF96Y; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:26:56 -0500 Received: from hcarp00g (hcarp00g.ca.nortel.com [47.196.31.114]) by zcard0ka.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id PX30T2HQ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:26:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:29:24 -0500 (EST) X-Sybari-Space: 00000000 00000000 00000000 From: "Andrew Atrens" X-X-Sender: atrens@hcarp00g.ca.nortel.com To: "Koster, K.J." Cc: java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Small prog to demonstrate linux-jdk1.3.x signal handling prob lem. In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA0BA@l04.research.kpn.com> Message-ID: <20011116091808.M10243-100000@hcarp00g.ca.nortel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orig: Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hmm. I'm running it on my box now. It hasn't died yet and reponds to ^C just > fine. My system uses the Linux JDK 1.3.1 port rev. 1, linux_base 6.1, > freebsd 4.4-stable as of november 1st. > > Is it supposed to SEGV immediately or after running for some time? The key bit is to run it with the hotspot JVM. This JVM uses linux threads, which seems to be the 'trigger' for the problem. Take a look at - /usr/local/linux-jdk1.3.x/jre/lib/jvm.cfg it should look like | -client | -server | -hotspot | -classic The first JVM in the list is the one that gets used by default. If I'm not mistaken the port changes this file to - | -classic | -client | -server | -hotspot defaulting you to the 'classic' JVM. The other (3) JVMs all use HotSpot but are 'tuned' for different types of applications - hence 'client' and 'server'. I differ with Ari's view that only 'Hello World' can be run on HotSpot. Indeed the buggy app I'm trying to run is a full-on class-parser/native code generator - it's pretty massive. And it does run, and fast. It's just this niggly SEGV signal handling problem that's driving me nuts. > > Kees Jan > > ================================================ > You are only young once, > but you can stay immature all your life. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Nov 16 8:40:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D4237B405; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from johncoop.MSHOME (drumheller-router.bmi.net [206.63.201.3] (may be forged)) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27631; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:47:52 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:40:05 -0800 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: Ernst de Haan Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal for Java(tm) dependency selection among ports Message-ID: <20011116084005.A40560@johncoop.MSHOME> References: <20011115130202.E33074@johncoop.MSHOME> <200111161042.fAGAg8V55897@zaphod.euronet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200111161042.fAGAg8V55897@zaphod.euronet.nl>; from znerd@freebsd.org on Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:42:08 -0800 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.2.3 Lines: 178 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001.11.16 02:42 Ernst de Haan wrote: > John, > > The problem you are addressing is one that has been discussed a few > times > before. But up until now, no solution was implemented. Now that I'm a > member > of the FreeBSD Project, I'm determined to find a solution for this. > :-) > > > bsd.port.mk (probably through a bsd.java.mk) would provide the > > following knobs: > > So far this sounds good. > > > USE_JAVA=[yes|no] knob will succeed on any of JDK's 1.3.1, > > 1.2.2, or 1.1.8 IN THAT ORDER (latest > > version first) > > USE_JAVA2=[yes|no] knob will succeed on either JDK 1.3.1 or > > 1.2.2 IN THAT ORDER > > USE_JAVA11=[yes|no] knob will succeed on ONLY JDK 1.1.8 > > I'm suggestion a solution that's a bit different: If a port wants to > use > Java, then it should set either of the following flags: > > [ Note that a JDK is a JRE plus development tools ] > My thought here is that a "black box" application, where the user could care less if it's Java(tm) under the hood, is a very good candidate for a JRE, but the nature of development tools is that they need a JDK (debugging sucks without a debugger, etc.) > USE_JAVA=[yes|no] --> This port needs any JRE/JDK, version 1.1 or > higher. If > a JRE/JDK is installed, then this port will succeed. If not, then any > JRE > will be installed. The preference order for a JRE/JDK to be installed > is > stored somewhere in /usr/ports/Mk and it should be possible to > override this > setting in some config file, similar to the way the order for GNOME > download > sites can be tweaked. > Preferrably the order should take the following rules into account: > [1] A JRE/JDK with a higher version number is preferred over one with > a lower > version number > [2] A native FreeBSD JDK/JRE is preferred over a non-native JDK > [3] A JRE/JDK that has no dependencies on other JDKs is preferred over > a JDK > that does > [4] A JRE/JDK that can be installed without fetching any files > manually is > preferred over one that fails with a message like "You must manually > fetch > the JDK from , place it in /usr/ports/distfiles > and then > run make again" > [5] A JRE is preferred over a JDK > > USE_JAVA_1_1=[yes|no] --> This is synonymous to USE_JAVA > > USE_JAVA_1_2=[yes|no] --> This port needs any JRE/JDK (1.2+). If a > JRE/JDK > 1.2 port is installed, then this port will install, otherwise it will > fail, > *or* (preferrably!!!!) install a JRE/JDK, using the rules layed out > above > > USE_JAVA_1_3=[yes|no] --> Similar to USE_JAVA_1_2, but then 1.3 i.s.o. > 1.2 > > USE_JAVA_1_4=[yes|no] --> Similar to USE_JAVA_1_3, but for 1.4 i.s.o. > 1.3 > In my experience (yours may be different), the dividing line for most apps is whether they work better (or at all) with a Java or Java2 JRE/JDK. I've yet to find an app/tool that whines too much about the many variations of Java2 (1.2.x and up), but many are unhappy with first generation Java (1.1.8 and before)--and vice versa. Hence, following IBM's breakdown--call one set JAVA11 and the other set JAVA2. Getting more fine-grained than necessary leads back to the current situation--where I effectively have ALL the JDK's installed. In reality, two should cover most of the known world. People who simply must have every JDK can still install them. :) > USE_JDK=[yes|no] --> Similar for USE_JAVA, but now mandates a JDK, > just a JRE > won't do > > USE_JDK_11=[yes|no] --> Synonym for USE_JDK > > USE_JDK_12=[yes|no] --> See USE_JDK_11, but for 1.2 i.s.o. 1.1 > > USE_JDK_13=[yes|no] --> See USE_JDK_12, but for 1.3 i.s.o. 1.2 > > USE_JDK_14=[yes|no] --> See USE_JDK_13, but for 1.4 i.s.o. 1.3 > My thought here is that a single JDK versus JRE switch can be used to influence the version selection mechanism--and avoid proliferating switches unnecessarily. > > WANT_LINUX_JAVA=[yes|no] > > same as above except Linux version Java's > > are used and USE_JAVA11 will abort build. > > I suggest not introducing this flag in the first phase. We can discuss > it's > usefullness later. > I can definitely understand why! But, practically, a user who wants Java(tm) only/mostly for her favorite Linux application--Star Office is an example--wants a JRE/JDK that works (I can almost get Star Office to do Java with a Linux JDK--no dice (probably because there's no emulator support) for a native JDK). Of course, the solution is native versions of BOTH the JDK/JRE and the application. At the glacial rate this is happening with Sun, some of us may need to chain themselves to the front doors of their main office and chant "Free BSD" until the powers-that-be allow native binaries . . . (rant off--sorry) > > WANT_JRE_ONLY=[yes|no] > > same as above except a JRE will be used > > instead of a JDK, if available > > See above proposed solution. > > > JAVA_VER reports Java(tm) detected or built by > > USE_JAVA* > > Hmm, what *exactly* would you like this variable to return as its > value? > CLASSPATH and/or environment variable construction for an install-user script on the Makefiles. For example, a whole host of environment variables need to be correctly set for my NetRexx port to function. If they're not set correctly, the port acts like it is broken. But unless I get really tyrannical (YOU user SHALL have the following ports installed and NO OTHERS . . .) it's not practical to construct such a script. NetRexx will run with ANY of the JDK's. But which one to setup? That is the problem. If I know: 1) whether or not it is linux based on the WANT_LINUX_JAVA flag; and 2) what JAVA_VER it is (1.1.8, 1.2.2, etc.), I can construct the necessary environment variables. In fact, for Java2 (if I know Java2 is the target), I can install my JAR file in the EXT portion of the JDK tree and eliminate setting/changing the CLASSPATH (same also with JGNAT). But I don't know, so I can't. > > > Ernst > > -- > Ernst de Haan > EuroNet Internet B.V. > > "Come to me all who are weary and burdened > and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ > Nice quotes are left. :) -- jmc || MacroHard -- \ || the perfection of form over | ----------------------------------|| substance, marketing over | Web: http://www.borgsdemons.com || performance, and greed over | || design . . . | =======================================================================/ Public Key: http://www.borgsdemons.com/Personal/pgpkey.asc | =======================================================================\ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Fri Nov 16 15:54:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from xfreek.net (24-163-111-136.he2.cox.rr.com [24.163.111.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF8D637B405 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 15:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3125 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Nov 2001 20:01:26 -0000 Date: 16 Nov 2001 20:01:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20011116200126.3124.qmail@xfreek.net> From: rootx11@xfreek.net To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Java for FreeBSD tutorial Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do you have a Java for FreeBSD tutorial? I would be very interested in one of those. it not, thanks anyway. My email address is rootx11@xfreek.net Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Sat Nov 17 0: 8:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from novakom.dp.ua (novakom.dp.ua [195.24.147.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53F9C37B405 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 00:08:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7949 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2001 07:34:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO there) (10.1.0.1) by post.novakom.dp.ua with SMTP; 17 Nov 2001 07:34:59 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" From: Valery V.Chikalov To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Success story Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:41:24 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011117080809.53F9C37B405@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD + GUI Java application are backbone of my production environment. Some times ago I have upgraded my working configuration to FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE, XFree86-4.1.0_6, linux-base 6.1, java version "1.4.0-beta2" (I'm citizen of Ukraine (xSSR) and due to USA export restriction can't use native version of Java) and found that I can't input russian text in java Swing application. I have checked my language setting MM_CHARSET=KOI8-R LANG=ru_RU.KOI8-R LC_ALL=ru_RU.KOI8-R relevant XFree86 setting Option "XkbLayout" "ru" Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle" I'm using KDE-2.2 as WM but have found that it has no effect on problem (Preferences->Periferals->Keyboard->Disable_keyboard_Layouts = true) this console java program which I run under X-environment also have worked as needed import java.util.*; import java.io.*; public class I18NSample { static public void main(String[] args) throws Exception { InputStreamReader defaultReader = new InputStreamReader(System.in); System.out.println("User language: " + System.getProperty("user.language")); System.out.println("System encoding: " + System.getProperty("file.encoding")); System.out.println("Reader encoding: " + defaultReader.getEncoding()); System.out.println("Default locale: " + Locale.getDefault()); BufferedReader dis = new BufferedReader(defaultReader); System.out.println("Was readed: " + dis.readLine()); } } >java I18NSample User language: ru System encoding: KOI8-R Reader encoding: KOI8_R Default locale: ru_RU Привет мир! Привет мир! Tweaking /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/koi8-r/XLC_LOCALE ($XFree86: xc/nls/XLC_LOCALE/koi8-r,v 3.4 2001/01/17 19:37:05 dawes Exp $i) (on my lucky I have FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE , linux-base 6.1, XFree86-4.0, java version "1.3.0" without problem of russian input ) I found that comenting out this lines #XLC_CHARSET_DEFINE #csd0 { # charset_name KOI8-R # side GR # length 1 # string_encoding False # sequence \x1b%/1 #} #END XLC_CHARSET_DEFINE solves the problem. Maybe somebody can explain me reason of this (which is guilty - Java, XFree86, Linuxulator ?). Or I hope the my experience help somebody to reduce debugging time becose I spend long time digging in different mail archives and Internet resources. Valery. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-java Sat Nov 17 2:22:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.0.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D4337B417 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 02:22:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from panix3.panix.com (panix3.panix.com [166.84.1.3]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C01900A for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 05:22:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from evenson@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.11.3nb1/8.8.8/PanixN1.0) id fAHAMJT08992; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 05:22:19 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: panix3.panix.com: evenson set sender to evenson@panix.com using -f To: java@freebsd.org Subject: jdk1.3.1 and JRE netscape/mozilla plugin From: Mark Evenson Date: 17 Nov 2001 05:22:19 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 14 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The 'java/jdk1.3.1' port does not seem to build the Netscape browser interface plugin. I assume that this is because there is some technical difficulty in getting the port to build the plugin corectly. Does anyone have a pointer to more information on what these technical issues might be? It sure would be nice to have a Java plugin for the native Mozilla. . . -- Mark Evenson "A screaming comes across the sky. It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare to it now." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message