From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Dec 16 19:24:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF0737B41A for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:24:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBH3ORa09152; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 20:24:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBH3OPM73249; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 20:24:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200112170324.fBH3OPM73249@harmony.village.org> To: Chan Tur Wei Subject: Re: Linksys PCM200 v2 ? Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Dec 2001 00:51:15 +0800." <20011216002731.T82122-100000@zaapth.twnet.org> References: <20011216002731.T82122-100000@zaapth.twnet.org> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 20:24:25 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20011216002731.T82122-100000@zaapth.twnet.org> Chan Tur Wei writes: : Is it due to my dumb laptop Bios having not properly assigned the IRQ's : for the cardbus stuff? The "intpin=a, irq=128" line above looks : unhealthy. If this is indeed the case, any idea if I can whack the Bios : into submission? Or some other way I can get the IRQ's through? likely. I'm not sure. What bios do you have? : Thanks for any additional pointers! Actually, if you send me the changes, I'll test them here. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Dec 17 10:16:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from relay-2m.club-internet.fr (relay-2m.club-internet.fr [195.36.216.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C5537B417 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from adome2 (lns02m-9-2.w.club-internet.fr [212.194.20.2]) by relay-2m.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 3089316FD; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 19:16:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00fb01c18726$9533ee00$1a01a8c0@clubinternet.fr> Reply-To: From: To: "Internet Fiesta" Subject: Virtual Planetary Exhibition - Internet Fiesta 2002 - Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 19:13:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Disposition-Notification-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Internet Fiesta 2002 : The Virtual Planetary Exhibition (to see english version ) http://www.internet-fiesta.org/2002/english/L/expo.html Internet Fiesta 2002 : L'exposition planétaire virtuelle annuelle (voir version française) http://www.internet-fiesta.org/2002/francais/L/expo.html IV Internet Fiesta : La Exposición Planetaria Virtual anual (ver version en español) http://www.internet-fiesta.org/2002/castellano/L/expo.html >>> english version http://www.internet-fiesta.org/2002/english/L/expo.html Internet Fiesta 2002 The Virtual Planetary Exhibition From the 18th to 24th of Marsh 2002 "Environment : science and education" "The Internet borders are not created by languages but by cultural links" Caio Tulio Costa The fourth edition of the World Wide Initiatives Exhibition will gather, during a whole week, web users, web masters, universities, communities, public institutions, non governmental organisations and companies in a large virtual space devoted to project exchanges, to ideas, to demonstration and to experimentation Yes, The Internet Fiesta is a Virtual Planetary Exhibition of initiatives and propositions coming from thousand of web users on all continents. Here they will present their projects, exchange their point of view and experience. They will share their cultural richness and will open themselves to others. They will then find help and contribution for themselves and the others. During this celebration week, the extraordinary display offered by the Internet Fiesta allows the promotion of regional specialities and production, present ethical initiatives and cultural content as folklore, myth and legend, transcription of local songs or demonstration of other aspect of local culture. Every year the Internet Fiesta insist also on the new possible uses of the Internet, demonstrate the advantages given by the network market and create virtual space dedicated to encounter and world wide solidarity. As well, The Internet Fiesta has promoted and shall promote every on-line formation and on- line educational project. No matter how one is isolated. Wherever one is, participation and contribution is possible. The Virtual Planetary Exhibition knows no border and have no centralised headquarter. All one needs is a computer connected to the web and enthusiasm to create one's own virtual space within the thematic pavilions of the Virtual Planetary Exhibition. A small team of persons from various professional backgrounds and nationalities, living in Paris (France), is in charge of the coordination of this network of networks. Every one within this group is fascinated by the opening on the whole world offered by the Internet and a convinced supporter of the pluricultual way of life. They act as general commissioners of the Virtual Planetary Exhibition. If you need any information about the coordination, go to http://www.Internet-fiesta.org The Internet Fiesta medium is offering an incredible visibility, on-line as well as off-line and all together massive and one to one. It is also a fabulous marketing tool, which allow to watch closely the users comportment and to detect new needs as soon as they are expressed. Furthermore it is the opportunity to experiment new productions or services and an occasion to present new offers to the public. The list of partner public institutions and private companies who already support the Internet Fiesta is available on the official web site. Joint us and become an active contributor to the fourth edition of the Internet Fiesta. Best fiesta regards! Philippe Boland Moderator - Internet Fiesta 2002 philippe@internet-fiesta.org www.internet-fiesta.org >>> version française http://www.internet-fiesta.org/2002/francais/L/expo.html Internet Fiesta 2002 L'exposition planétaire virtuelle annuelle du 18 au 24 mars 2002 "L'environnement, la science et l'éducation" "Ce ne sont pas les langues qui définissent les frontières d'Internet mais les liens culturels." Caio Tulio Costa 4ème édition de l'exposition mondiale d'initiative qui durant une semaine, du 18 au 24 mars 2002, réunit l'ensemble des internautes du monde entier : simples surfeurs, webmasters, universitaires, communautés, institutions publiques, organisations non gouvernementales mais aussi les entreprises publiques et privées dans un espace d'échange de projets, d'idées et d' expériences. Oui, l'Internet Fiesta est bien une exposition planétaire d'initiatives et de propositions émanant de milliers d'internautes de tous les continents. Ils y exposeront leurs projets, échangeront leurs idées, et expériences. Ils donnent à connaître la richesse de leurs cultures et permettent de s'ouvrir aux autres pour trouver des contributions et des appuis pour leurs travaux et ceux des autres. Durant cette semaine de festivités cette extraordinaire vitrine qu'offre l' Internet Fiesta assure la promotion de spécificités et de produits régionaux, expose les initiatives éthiques et les contenus culturels comme des mythes, des légendes, des transcriptions de chants ou d'autres aspects curieux d'une culture locale. Chaque année est mise en évidence de nouveaux usages possibles de l'Internet (pour la première édition en mars 1999 l' ensemble du site était disponible sur le W.A.P.), les avantages des marchés en réseau, la création d'espaces d'animations et de rencontres solidaires. Mais aussi la mise en avant des projets de formation et d'apprentissage en ligne. Peu importe que l'on soit très isolé ; ou que l'on se trouve, on peut participer et contribuer. L'exposition planétaire virtuelle d'initiatives n' a ni frontière ni siège physique unique. Tous ce dont on a besoin c'est d'un ordinateur connecté à Internet et d'enthousiasme pour créer son propre espace au sein des douze pavillons thématiques. La coordination de ce réseau des réseaux que constitue l'Internet Fiesta est assurée par un groupe de personnes de formations et de nationalités variées, résidant à Paris et toutes passionnées par l'ouverture sur le monde qu'offre l'Internet et fervents adeptes du pluriculturel. Ils constituent le commissariat général de l'exposition planétaire virtuelle. Pour toute information à ce sujet, rendez-vous sur http://www.Internet-fiesta.org L'Internet Fiesta est un média offrant une incroyable visibilité on-line et off-line, à la fois massive et one to one, en outre c'est aussi l'outil marketing qui permet d'observer les comportements des usagers et d'être présent dès l'expression de nouveaux besoins. C'est l'opportunité de tester et d'expérimenter de nouveaux produits ou services et de présenter de nouvelles offres. Afin d'assurer plus de succès encore à l'Internet fiesta, les organismes publics et privés soutiennent de concert la coordination. Vous trouverez la liste des partenaires qui nous ont déjà rejoints le site. Participer ainsi activement à la quatrième Internet Fiesta du 18 au 24 mars 2002. Festivement votre ! Philippe Boland Moderator Internet Fiesta 2002 philippe@internet-fiesta.org www.internet-fiesta.org >>> versión en español http://www.internet-fiesta.org/2002/castellano/L/expo.html IV Internet Fiesta La Exposición Planetaria Virtual anual del 18 al 24 de marzo de 2.002 " El medio ambiente: ciencia y educación " "En Internet los idiomas no definen las fronteras sino los lazos culturales" Caio Tulio Costa Durante siete días, miles de internautas del mundo entero participarán en la 4a edición de Internet Fiesta con un mismo objetivo : navegantes, webmasters, estudiantes, comunidades, instituciones públicas, organizaciones no gubernamentales, como también empresas públicas y privadas. Sí, Internet Fiesta es una Exposición Planetaria de iniciativas y proposiciones. Miles de internautas en el mundo entero exponen allí sus proyectos, intercambian ideas y experiencias, dan a conocer la riqueza de su cultura y se abren a otros pueblos, buscan apoyo para sacar adelante sus propias iniciativas y contribuyen a desarrollar las de otros. Aprovechando esa semana de festividades, Usted puede promover productos regionales, presentar personalidades valiosas como artesanos y empresarios, destacar las acciones éticas de empresas u organizaciones, revelar aspectos curiosos de la historia local transcribiendo canciones, mitos o leyendas. Cada año se busca destacar los usos innovadores de Internet como las ventajas del mercadeo en la Red (en la primera edición en marzo de 1999, todo el sitio web se encontraba disponible en WAP). También se incita a crear espacios de animación y de encuentro solidarios, promover proyectos de formación y aprendizaje en línea, animar foros y grupos de trabajo. Y no importa qué tan aislado sea el lugar donde se encuentre, Usted puede participar y colaborar. Esta Exposición Planetaria de iniciativas no tiene fronteras, ni una sede física única. Lo importante es contar con una conexión a Internet e ingenio para crear su propio stand en cada uno de los distintos temáticos. Detrás de la coordinación de esta " red de redes " que constituye Internet Fiesta estamos un grupo de personas residentes en París con distintas carreras y nacionalidades, pero todos apasionados por la noción multicultural y de apertura que ofrece Internet. Puede encontrar información sobre nosotros en http://www.internet-fiesta.org Internet es un medio de comunicación que ofrece una increible visibilidad on-line y off-line, es un medio a la vez masivo como personalizado. Por otro lado, también es una herramienta de mercadeo que permite observar el comportamiento de los usuarios y estar al tanto de la manifestación de nuevas necesidades. Es la oportunidad de probar y experimentar nuevos productos o servicios, como de presentar nuevas ofertas. Para que Internet Fiesta tenga éxito, es necesario integrar un máximo de organizaciones públicas y privadas. Esto es lo que hemos hecho ya. Puede consultar la lista de nuestros asociados el el sitio web. Acompáñenos Usted también en esta "Exposición Planetaria Virtual" del próximo 18 al 24 de marzo. Festivamente suyo, Philippe Boland Moderador de Internet Fiesta 2002 philippe@internet-fiesta.org www.internet-fiesta.org Si no desea continuar recibiendo más información, envíe un email a: Pour ne plus recevoir d'information : For unsubscription send a email to : desabonnement@fete-internet.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Dec 17 23:14:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from squall.waterspout.com (squall.waterspout.com [208.13.56.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FB837B41C for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by squall.waterspout.com (Postfix, from userid 1050) id 6C5E19B19; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:12:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:12:26 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: PC-Card slot on Sony Vaio PCG-R505JL under -CURRENT Message-ID: <20011218021226.L52953@squall.waterspout.com> Reply-To: Will Andrews Mail-Followup-To: mobile@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am unable to get any of my PC-Cards to work on my new Vaio. I installed 5.0-CURRENT-20011217-JPSNAP. I jumped a few hurdles getting things installed and running. One thing really bothers me though: the PC-Card slot in the Vaio does not work. Any time I put a PC-Card in, the system barfs on it; pccardc dumpcis gives: Read return -1 bytes (expected 2) pccardc: CIS code read: Cannot allocate memory Read return -1 bytes (expected 10) Configuration data for card in slot 0 1 slots found This happened with a Linksys PCM100 (ed(4) card), an Enterasys RoamAbout (wi(4) Orinoco clone, I believe), and a SMC 2632W (wi(4) Prism2-based). I believe this is a Vaio thing, because all these NICs worked with my old Dell Inspiron 8000. I looked for a BIOS option to force 16-bit mode but could not find one. Any ideas? -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 18 0:21: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD04837B41F for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBI8L1a15116; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:21:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBI8KxM83170; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:21:00 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200112180821.fBI8KxM83170@harmony.village.org> To: Will Andrews Subject: Re: PC-Card slot on Sony Vaio PCG-R505JL under -CURRENT Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:12:26 EST." <20011218021226.L52953@squall.waterspout.com> References: <20011218021226.L52953@squall.waterspout.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:20:59 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20011218021226.L52953@squall.waterspout.com> Will Andrews writes: : Read return -1 bytes (expected 2) This almost certainly means you have a memory conflict. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 18 0:22:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0F637B41B for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:22:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBI8PmD25312 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:25:48 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:25:48 -0600 (CST) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Subject: freebsd-current install works out of the box with my hp 800ct (ti113X CardBus) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org just an fyi that 5.0-20011217 booted successfully and found my ep0 card and the card configured via DHCP successfully. this is in contrast to 4.4-x that panics unless i do the isa interrupt reroute thing. note that i really think that the automagic kernel configuration thingy is REALLY COOL!!!! i've been doing installs since FreeBSD 0.9X and i really DO NOT MISS the fiddling about with removing various conflicting devices.... some righteous bunch of coders rock with extreme vigor.....my hat is off to them.... do actual CardBus cards work with -current yet? -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 18 4:22: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BF837B417 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 04:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBICLuG79168; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:21:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:21:56 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: John Utz Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd-current install works out of the box with my hp 800ct (ti113X CardBus) Message-ID: <20011218072156.A79142@blackhelicopters.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from john@utzweb.net on Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 02:25:48AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 02:25:48AM -0600, John Utz wrote: > some righteous bunch of coders rock with extreme vigor..... Why yes they do. > do actual CardBus cards work with -current yet? Yep. Grab the NEWCARD kernel config and have fun. No eject, no insert, but they're identified. -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 18 8:55:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FA037B419 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBIGtDa17084; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:55:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBIGtCM89884; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:55:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200112181655.fBIGtCM89884@harmony.village.org> To: John Utz Subject: Re: freebsd-current install works out of the box with my hp 800ct (ti113X CardBus) Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:25:48 CST." References: Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:55:12 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message John Utz writes: : just an fyi that 5.0-20011217 booted successfully and found my ep0 card : and the card configured via DHCP successfully. cool. : this is in contrast to 4.4-x that panics unless i do the isa interrupt : reroute thing. reall? I'll have to look into that before the release. : do actual CardBus cards work with -current yet? Yes, but you have to run the NEWCARD kernel. you loose the functionality of pccardd which forks commands when cards are inserted. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 18 9:23:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3090F37B416 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:23:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id CD0D881E0E; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:23:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:23:46 -0600 From: Alfred Perlstein To: "Chad R. Larson" , Will Andrews , Christoph Kukulies , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wireless Lan - recommendations Message-ID: <20011218112346.B59831@elvis.mu.org> References: <200112100850.fBA8oNV85788@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> <20011210142256.B23826@squall.waterspout.com> <20011210133744.H92148@elvis.mu.org> <20011212114909.D7869@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20011218091819.A31979@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011218091819.A31979@lunatic.oneinsane.net>; from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net on Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 09:18:19AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson [011218 11:18] wrote: > Chad R. Larson (chad@DCFinc.com) wrote: > > > > We've had good luck with the SMC 2655W. We've deployed 4 of them, > > Are you able to use WEP under FreeBSD to the access point? I am using Addtron wireless cards. (but I haven't tried the SMC) -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' http://www.morons.org/rants/gpl-harmful.php3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 18 11: 3:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from squall.waterspout.com (squall.waterspout.com [208.13.56.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6890837B417 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:03:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by squall.waterspout.com (Postfix, from userid 1050) id 5E6569B08; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:01:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:01:12 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Warner Losh Cc: Will Andrews , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC-Card slot on Sony Vaio PCG-R505JL under -CURRENT Message-ID: <20011218140112.O52953@squall.waterspout.com> Reply-To: Will Andrews Mail-Followup-To: Warner Losh , Will Andrews , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011218021226.L52953@squall.waterspout.com> <200112180821.fBI8KxM83170@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200112180821.fBI8KxM83170@harmony.village.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 01:20:59AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20011218021226.L52953@squall.waterspout.com> Will Andrews writes: > : Read return -1 bytes (expected 2) > > This almost certainly means you have a memory conflict. I am not sure what to do about that. This is Dec 17 -CURRENT (the JPSNAP), so maybe it's a problem with something that was committed recently? Sorry I'm not very helpful here. :\ But I can try to dig up more information on this or change some things or something. -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 18 13:18:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from priv-edtnes10-hme0.telusplanet.net (mtaout.telus.net [199.185.220.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B5B37B419 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from comanche.internal.pscl.com ([161.184.135.89]) by priv-edtnes10-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.01 201-253-122-122-101-20011014) with ESMTP id <20011218211818.XSXR4430.priv-edtnes10-hme0.telusplanet.net@comanche.internal.pscl.com> for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:18:18 -0700 Received: by comanche.internal.pscl.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:17:41 -0700 Message-ID: <133744861934D411AC3800508B4A89B30C5C4F@comanche.internal.pscl.com> From: Trevor Osatchuk To: "FreeBSD (E-mail)" Subject: Thinkpad pcmcia slots. Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:17:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a 380d thinkpad wihth 4.4-STABLE. I was under the impression that both slots of this beast should take a pccard. However, when I put a second card in I get: pccard: card inserted, slot 1 pccardd[82]: Card "SunDisk"("SDP") [5/3 0.6] [(null)] matched "SunDisk" ("/.*/") [(null)] [(null)] pccardd[82]: Failed to allocate IRQ for SunDisk pccardd[82]: pccardd started Much the same thing if I stick a nic in slot 1 while slot 0 is occupied, or instert into slot 0 while slot 1 is occpupied. From dmesg: pcic0: port 0x3e0-0x3e3 at device 19.0 on pci0 The pd6729 chip was supposed to be 'fixed' in STABLE. This was my first upgrade attempt, from 4.4-RELEASE, could I have messed that up? Basically, I can use either slot, but not both at the same time. Am I missing some config option? Also, when I remove my 3Com 3C574TX card, the system hangs. Thanks! Trevor Osatchuk Process Solutions Canada Ltd. Support and Integration Analyst (780) 452-2227 Ext. 286 trevor.osatchuk@pscl.com Any man whose errors take ten years to correct is quite a man. - J. Robert Oppenheimer, speaking of Albert Einstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 18 14: 4:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from dharma.cisco.com (dharma.cisco.com [64.102.40.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E7037B417 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:04:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from stannous@localhost) by dharma.cisco.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fBIM8Vm04541 for mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:08:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from stannous) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:08:31 -0500 From: Sam Tannous To: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linmodem on freebsd Message-ID: <20011218170831.B4509@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have the same NO DIALTONE problems when I upgraded to 4.4... This seemed to work just fine back on FreeBSD 4.3 (at least on my T20). Anyone have any ideas about what changed in 4.4 to break this? I really don't want to downgrade to 4.3, but I might just to get the modem working. Thanks, Sam > On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:26:27 -0500,Scott Lambert wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:13:22PM +0900, WATANABE Kiyoshi wrote: > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:49:37 -0500, Scott Lambert wrote: > > > > My problem now is that it always says NO DIALTONE when I try to make it dial. > > > > > > When you dial, can you hear DTMF tone from monitor speaker? > > It seems that hardware is sleeping. > > I think the "digital test" test the UART emulator in the ltmdmobj.o > and it does not test hardware part. > > > This may be a problem caused by ACPI. > If it is true and you can not change BIOS setting, it will not work > under FreeBSD-4.x. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 18 15:28:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D542B37B405 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:28:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBINV9D04566; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:31:09 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:31:09 -0600 (CST) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Warner Losh Cc: Subject: Re: freebsd-current install works out of the box with my hp 800ct (ti113X CardBus) In-Reply-To: <200112181655.fBIGtCM89884@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Warner Losh wrote: > In message John Utz writes: > : just an fyi that 5.0-20011217 booted successfully and found my ep0 card > : and the card configured via DHCP successfully. > > cool. > > : this is in contrast to 4.4-x that panics unless i do the isa interrupt > : reroute thing. > > reall? I'll have to look into that before the release. yuppers. been doin' it since 4.4-RCX it's interesting that i dont need to do the reroute once i've installed. why should it be different? i am quite happy to help you debug it. note that the related pr is bin/32895, which pertains to the fact that once i reboot back and forth on said hp800ct, the card controller becomes completely fucked....my hypothesis is that some registers arent getting reset properly when it reboots.... > Warner > -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 0:15:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from www.stonehenge-net.com (dsl081-053-198.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.53.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA12337B416 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:15:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by www.stonehenge-net.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBJ8Ctx43362 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:12:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@stonehenge-net.com) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:12:55 -0800 (PST) From: ben X-X-Sender: ben@www To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: usb 802.11b working? Message-ID: <20011219000454.I43320-100000@www> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org just ordered a lucent usb 'gold' 802.11b so i can free my wife from her 25 foot cat 5 tether for christmas (along with an airport card for her tibook)... ofc, i should have checked the compatability list first it seems :) after ordering the thing, i sat down to recompile my kernel with support for it... but i can't find any devices that list compatibility for this. have checked the web site, etc, and am worried now... am i stuck with one of the pci/pccard bridges? (and reordering/returning) ? if there's nothing official, does anyone have anything experimental i can help field test? thanks, ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 0:23:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.46.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43DC37B405 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.11.1/8.9.3) id fBJ8Nbc56507; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:23:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kuku) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:23:37 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies To: ben Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: internal antenna? (was Re: usb 802.11b working?) Message-ID: <20011219092337.A56473@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <20011219000454.I43320-100000@www> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20011219000454.I43320-100000@www>; from ben@stonehenge-net.com on Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 12:12:55AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org While being at it: When I bought my Dell Inspiron 8000 the sales person said something like the antenna for wireless operation was already built in or provided. But when I see the pccards these days they all have this 1" antenna block coming out of the slot (which doesn't look very elegant and is a possible risk of damaging something). Is there something like 'internal antennas' in notebook computers? On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 12:12:55AM -0800, ben wrote: > just ordered a lucent usb 'gold' 802.11b so i can free my wife from her 25 > foot cat 5 tether for christmas (along with an airport card for her > tibook)... ofc, i should have checked the compatability list first it > seems :) > > after ordering the thing, i sat down to recompile my kernel with support > for it... but i can't find any devices that list compatibility for this. > have checked the web site, etc, and am worried now... am i stuck with one > of the pci/pccard bridges? (and reordering/returning) ? if there's nothing > official, does anyone have anything experimental i can help field test? > > thanks, > > ben > -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 0:37:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from www.stonehenge-net.com (dsl081-053-198.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.53.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA0F37B41A for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:37:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by www.stonehenge-net.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBJ8WqM43416; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:32:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@stonehenge-net.com) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:32:52 -0800 (PST) From: ben X-X-Sender: ben@www To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: internal antenna? (was Re: usb 802.11b working?) In-Reply-To: <20011219092337.A56473@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: <20011219003101.E43410-100000@www> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > While being at it: > > When I bought my Dell Inspiron 8000 the sales person said something > like the antenna for wireless operation was already built in or > provided. > Is there something like 'internal antennas' in notebook computers? well, if apple can do it, so can dell, right? my c600 has nothing like this, and i imagine that you'd need a special card (just as you do with apple). maybe he meant for bluetooth? ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 0:56: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from yamato.ccrle.nec.de (yamato.ccrle.nec.de [195.37.70.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF8E37B41A for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:56:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from citadel.mobility.ccrle.nec.de ([192.168.156.1]) by yamato.ccrle.nec.de (8.11.6/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fBJ8u4A61132; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:56:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from elgar (elgar.heidelberg.ccrle.nec.de [192.168.102.180]) by citadel.mobility.ccrle.nec.de (Postfix on SuSE eMail Server 2.0) with ESMTP id 1227EC052; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:56:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:09:06 +0100 From: Martin Stiemerling To: Christoph Kukulies , ben Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: internal antenna? (was Re: usb 802.11b working?) Message-ID: <10070000.1008752946@elgar> In-Reply-To: <20011219092337.A56473@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <20011219000454.I43320-100000@www> <20011219092337.A56473@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.1 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --On Mittwoch, Dezember 19, 2001 09:23:37 +0100 Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > While being at it: > > When I bought my Dell Inspiron 8000 the sales person said something > like the antenna for wireless operation was already built in or > provided. It is only built in, when you buy the Dell I 8000 with the wavelan option. When you buy an pccard wavelan card you have to live with the external antenna. Cheers Martin > > But when I see the pccards these days they all have this 1" antenna > block coming out of the slot (which doesn't look very elegant > and is a possible risk of damaging something). > > Is there something like 'internal antennas' in notebook computers? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 1:11:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.46.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2894437B416 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 01:11:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.11.1/8.9.3) id fBJ9BYE57000; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:11:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kuku) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:11:34 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies To: Martin Stiemerling Cc: Christoph Kukulies , ben , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: internal antenna? (was Re: usb 802.11b working?) Message-ID: <20011219101134.A56979@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <20011219000454.I43320-100000@www> <20011219092337.A56473@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> <10070000.1008752946@elgar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <10070000.1008752946@elgar>; from Martin.Stiemerling@ccrle.nec.de on Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 10:09:06AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 10:09:06AM +0100, Martin Stiemerling wrote: > > > --On Mittwoch, Dezember 19, 2001 09:23:37 +0100 Christoph Kukulies > wrote: I just learnt (calling Dell again) that the internal antenna is there but I can only use it with an internal card in the notebook. But when I want to use this solution I would have to sacrifice the 100MBit network card + the internal modem. So I decided for the additional PCMCIA card. > > provided. > > It is only built in, when you buy the Dell I 8000 with the wavelan option. > When you buy an pccard wavelan card you have to live with the external > antenna. > -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 1:50: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns.bsag.ch (ns.bsag.ch [62.2.201.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC9437B405 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 01:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.bsag.ch (root@localhost) by ns.bsag.ch with ESMTP id fBJ9pEj25050 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:51:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from ns.bsag.ch (bs13.bsag.ch [192.168.1.13]) by gw.bsag.ch with ESMTP id fBJ9pEn25046 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:51:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from bs82.bsag.ch (bs82 [192.168.1.82]) by ns.bsag.ch (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id fBJ9ntA30307 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:49:55 +0100 Received: (from hpr@localhost) by bs82.bsag.ch (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) id fBJ9nsj05759 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:49:54 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:49:54 +0100 From: Hanspeter Roth To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: IDE standby timeout (hdparm) Message-ID: <20011219104954.A5747@bs82.bsag.ch> Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.16i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, is it possible to finetune the standby timeout (spindown) of IDE-disks? Is there something like the Linux' `hdparm'? -Hanspeter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 3: 0:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from tabby.kudra.com (gw.kudra.com [199.6.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DD737B405 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 03:00:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from robert@localhost) by tabby.kudra.com (8.11.6/8.11.5) id fBJB0Mo72645; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 06:00:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 06:00:22 -0500 From: Robert Sexton To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: hanspeter_roth@hotmail.com Subject: Re: IDE standby timeout (hdparm) Message-ID: <20011219060022.A72034@kudra.com> References: <20011219104954.A5747@bs82.bsag.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011219104954.A5747@bs82.bsag.ch>; from hanspeter_roth@hotmail.com on Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 10:49:54AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 10:49:54AM +0100, Hanspeter Roth wrote: > > Hello, > > is it possible to finetune the standby timeout (spindown) of > IDE-disks? > -Hanspeter As far as I know, the answer is still no. But heres a patch (good against -CURRENT and recent -STABLE that adds it. To activate the patch, put the following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.ata.suspend=180 # 180 seconds I've found that a few things make a big difference in getting the disk to spin down and stay that way. /etc/syslog.conf - needless logging Its also good to look over /etc/crontab. Theres stuff in there that isn't so important. newsyslog can run daily instead of hourly. You may want to disable 'at' altogether. Lastly, consider turning in 'noatime' for all of your filesystems in /etc/fstab. I used to fiddle with the syncer parameters, but I found that it didn't do as much good as eliminating a lot of the background IO. Since I made these changes, my machine routinely spins down the disk, and it generally stays down when I'm not actively using the machine. For some reason, using ssh always seems to spin up the disk, even when I connect to machine that I recently connected to. -- Robert Sexton - robert@kudra.com, Cincinnati OH, USA Put your Nose to the Grindstone! -- Amalgamated Plastic Surgeons and Toolmakers, Ltd. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 3: 5: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from tabby.kudra.com (gw.kudra.com [199.6.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D81737B417 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 03:05:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from robert@localhost) by tabby.kudra.com (8.11.6/8.11.5) id fBJB53372858; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 06:05:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 06:05:03 -0500 From: Robert Sexton To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: hanspeter_roth@hotmail.com Subject: Re: IDE standby timeout (hdparm) Message-ID: <20011219060503.B72034@kudra.com> References: <20011219104954.A5747@bs82.bsag.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011219104954.A5747@bs82.bsag.ch>; from hanspeter_roth@hotmail.com on Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 10:49:54AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 10:49:54AM +0100, Hanspeter Roth wrote: > > Hello, > > is it possible to finetune the standby timeout (spindown) of > IDE-disks? > Is there something like the Linux' `hdparm'? 'What patch?' Sorry for the extra list traffic. Its attached here. -- Robert Sexton - robert@kudra.com, Cincinnati OH, USA If car manufactures were the nra their slogan would be "Cars don't kill comunities, people kill communities." - Unknown --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ata.patch" *** dev/ata/ata-disk.c.orig Wed Oct 24 14:24:09 2001 --- dev/ata/ata-disk.c Sat Nov 10 02:16:55 2001 *************** *** 86,94 **** --- 86,96 ---- static int ata_dma = 1; static int ata_wc = 0; static int ata_tags = 0; + static int ata_suspend = 0; TUNABLE_INT("hw.ata.ata_dma", &ata_dma); TUNABLE_INT("hw.ata.wc", &ata_wc); TUNABLE_INT("hw.ata.tags", &ata_tags); + TUNABLE_INT("hw.ata.suspend", &ata_suspend); /* sysctl vars */ SYSCTL_DECL(_hw_ata); *************** *** 98,103 **** --- 100,107 ---- "ATA disk write caching"); SYSCTL_INT(_hw_ata, OID_AUTO, tags, CTLFLAG_RD, &ata_tags, 0, "ATA disk tagged queuing support"); + SYSCTL_INT(_hw_ata, OID_AUTO, suspend, CTLFLAG_RD, &ata_suspend, 0, + "ATA disk suspend timer"); /* defines */ #define AD_MAX_RETRIES 3 *************** *** 188,193 **** --- 192,204 ---- 0, 0, ATA_C_F_DIS_SRVIRQ, ATA_WAIT_INTR)) ata_printf(scp, device, "disabling service interrupt failed\n"); } + + if ( ata_suspend > 0 ) { + /* attempt suspend mode. The drive uses increments of ten seconds */ + if (ata_command(adp->controller, adp->unit, 0xe2, + 0, ata_suspend/10, 0, ATA_WAIT_INTR)) + printf("ad%d: suspend mode failed\n", adp->lun); + } devstat_add_entry(&adp->stats, "ad", adp->lun, DEV_BSIZE, DEVSTAT_NO_ORDERED_TAGS, --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 3:49: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from gw.bsag.ch (ns.bsag.ch [62.2.201.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9822E37B419 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 03:48:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.bsag.ch (root@localhost) by gw.bsag.ch with ESMTP id fBGEOlR01612 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:24:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from ns.bsag.ch (bs13.bsag.ch [192.168.1.13]) by gw.bsag.ch with ESMTP id fBGEOln01608 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:24:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from bs82.bsag.ch (bs82 [192.168.1.82]) by ns.bsag.ch (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id fBGENZA04952 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:23:35 +0100 Received: (from hpr@localhost) by bs82.bsag.ch (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fBGFNYm00980 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:23:34 GMT (envelope-from hanspeter_roth@hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:23:18 +0000 From: Hanspeter Roth To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: IDE standby timeout (hdparm) Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Message-Id: <20011219114857.9822E37B419@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, is it possible to finetune the standby timeout (spindown) of IDE-disks? Is there something like the Linux' `hdparm'? -Hanspeter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 4:17:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from gw.bsag.ch (ns.bsag.ch [62.2.201.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3422737B417 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 04:17:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.bsag.ch (root@localhost) by gw.bsag.ch with ESMTP id fBHLI2r11330 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:18:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from ns.bsag.ch (bs13.bsag.ch [192.168.1.13]) by gw.bsag.ch with ESMTP id fBHLI1n11326 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:18:01 +0100 (CET) Received: (from hpr@localhost) by ns.bsag.ch (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) id fBHLGlA30097 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:16:47 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:16:47 +0100 From: Hanspeter Roth To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: IDE standby timeout (hdparm) Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.16i Message-Id: <20011219121750.3422737B417@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, is it possible to finetune the standby timeout (spindown) of IDE-disks? Is there something like the Linux' `hdparm'? -Hanspeter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 6:19:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAA737B405 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 06:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBJEJNa21709; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:19:23 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBJEJJM27491; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:19:23 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200112191419.fBJEJJM27491@harmony.village.org> To: Will Andrews Subject: Re: PC-Card slot on Sony Vaio PCG-R505JL under -CURRENT Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:01:12 EST." <20011218140112.O52953@squall.waterspout.com> References: <20011218140112.O52953@squall.waterspout.com> <20011218021226.L52953@squall.waterspout.com> <200112180821.fBI8KxM83170@harmony.village.org> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:19:19 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20011218140112.O52953@squall.waterspout.com> Will Andrews writes: : I am not sure what to do about that. This is Dec 17 -CURRENT : (the JPSNAP), so maybe it's a problem with something that was : committed recently? i don't think so. try different values of pccard_mem in your /etc/rc.conf. OLDCARD isn't good about figuring this out on its own. 0xd0000 is the default, try 0xd4000, 0xd8000, 0xdc000. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 6:21: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC3D37B405 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 06:21:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBJEL3a21724; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:21:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBJEL2M27521; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:21:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200112191421.fBJEL2M27521@harmony.village.org> To: Trevor Osatchuk Subject: Re: Thinkpad pcmcia slots. Cc: "FreeBSD (E-mail)" In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:17:40 MST." <133744861934D411AC3800508B4A89B30C5C4F@comanche.internal.pscl.com> References: <133744861934D411AC3800508B4A89B30C5C4F@comanche.internal.pscl.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:21:02 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <133744861934D411AC3800508B4A89B30C5C4F@comanche.internal.pscl.com> Trevor Osatchuk writes: : pccardd[82]: Failed to allocate IRQ for SunDisk The second irq you have listed in /etc/pccard.conf is in use. pick another one. : Also, when I remove my 3Com 3C574TX card, the system hangs. That's a new one on me. I'll see if I can recreate it with my 3c589E card. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 6:22:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3603237B416 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 06:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBJEMXa21737; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:22:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBJEMXM27548; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:22:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200112191422.fBJEMXM27548@harmony.village.org> To: ben Subject: Re: usb 802.11b working? Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:12:55 PST." <20011219000454.I43320-100000@www> References: <20011219000454.I43320-100000@www> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:22:33 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20011219000454.I43320-100000@www> ben writes: : after ordering the thing, i sat down to recompile my kernel with support : for it... but i can't find any devices that list compatibility for this. : have checked the web site, etc, and am worried now... am i stuck with one : of the pci/pccard bridges? (and reordering/returning) ? if there's nothing : official, does anyone have anything experimental i can help field test? I've seen nothing on how to program these beasts, so there's no driver for them that I'm aware of. Sorry :-(. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 6:24: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECAA37B416 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 06:24:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBJEO0a21753; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:24:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBJEO0M27579; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:24:00 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200112191424.fBJEO0M27579@harmony.village.org> To: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: internal antenna? (was Re: usb 802.11b working?) Cc: ben , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:23:37 +0100." <20011219092337.A56473@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <20011219092337.A56473@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> <20011219000454.I43320-100000@www> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:24:00 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20011219092337.A56473@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Christoph Kukulies writes: : When I bought my Dell Inspiron 8000 the sales person said something : like the antenna for wireless operation was already built in or : provided. : : Is there something like 'internal antennas' in notebook computers? Yes, but for the Dell in question, it is internal for the internal wireless card you can get. So you can't, afaik, use it with a pccard, only their mini-pci wireless card. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 6:32:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E0A37B405; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 06:32:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBJEWja21786; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:32:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBJEWiM27654; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:32:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200112191432.fBJEWiM27654@harmony.village.org> Subject: Re: Laptop freezes with network activity Cc: Sven Hazejager , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:28:57 MST." <200112112028.fBBKSvM30105@harmony.village.org> References: <200112112028.fBBKSvM30105@harmony.village.org> <20011211143912.Q17519-100000@proxy.chain.loc> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:32:44 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200112112028.fBBKSvM30105@harmony.village.org> Warner Losh writes: : I just got my ToPIC 95 based laptop in while I was in Japan. I will : see if I can get a larger hard disk into it and get FreeBSD -current : installed onto it ansd see if I can reproduce your problem. turns out the laptop I got was defective. so I can't track down this problem until after the new year. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 8:11:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from po3.glue.umd.edu (po3.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3AB37B405 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:11:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from glue.umd.edu (darkstar.umd.edu [128.8.215.163]) by po3.glue.umd.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fBJGAsg14211; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:10:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C20BC10.4A12A0EB@glue.umd.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:10:56 -0500 From: Brandon Fosdick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ben Cc: Christoph Kukulies , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: internal antenna? (was Re: usb 802.11b working?) References: <20011219003101.E43410-100000@www> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ben wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > > > > While being at it: > > > > When I bought my Dell Inspiron 8000 the sales person said something > > like the antenna for wireless operation was already built in or > > provided. > > > Is there something like 'internal antennas' in notebook computers? > > well, if apple can do it, so can dell, right? my c600 has nothing like > this, and i imagine that you'd need a special card (just as you do with > apple). maybe he meant for bluetooth? I have a C800 with a builtin antenna for 802.11. You have to get the miniPCI card option for it, the antenna doesn't work with PCCARDs. I like this option a lot, its better than fidling with a seperate card, but the downside is that you can't get the internal ethernet/modem at the same time. So if you need both wireless and wired access you're going to need a seperate PCCARD either way. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 18:13:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from squall.waterspout.com (squall.waterspout.com [208.13.56.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E954C37B417 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:13:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by squall.waterspout.com (Postfix, from userid 1050) id C6A279B08; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:11:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:11:20 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Warner Losh Cc: Will Andrews , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC-Card slot on Sony Vaio PCG-R505JL under -CURRENT Message-ID: <20011219211120.B73815@squall.waterspout.com> Reply-To: Will Andrews Mail-Followup-To: Warner Losh , Will Andrews , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011218140112.O52953@squall.waterspout.com> <20011218021226.L52953@squall.waterspout.com> <200112180821.fBI8KxM83170@harmony.village.org> <200112191419.fBJEJJM27491@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200112191419.fBJEJJM27491@harmony.village.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:19:19AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > try different values of pccard_mem in your /etc/rc.conf. OLDCARD > isn't good about figuring this out on its own. 0xd0000 is the > default, try 0xd4000, 0xd8000, 0xdc000. None of those work; I also tried NEWCARD but that didn't even detect the pc-card bus. :( -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 21: 5:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from whaite.com (CPE-203-51-30-197.nsw.bigpond.net.au [203.51.30.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DB4737B41A for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:04:29 -0800 (PST) From: bryan@whaite.com Reply-To: bryan@whaite.com Subject: NEWCARD and BOOTP woes Message-Id: <20011220050429.7DB4737B41A@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:04:29 -0800 (PST) To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I've just been playing with a 5.0-current snapshot (11/12/01) to get a laptop with a wavelan card booting via BOOTP. I have successfully compiled a kernel with NEWCARD and it detects the wavelan and it can be used. Whenever I add the BOOTP options to the kernel, it panics during boot due to lack of network card for the wired_to statement. It seems like BOOTP is coming in before the rest of the NEWCARD drivers are loaded. I know this is still experimental etc, thats what I'm doing too! ;) Any ideas? Thanks Bry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 22:31:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (lunatic.oneinsane.net [66.42.61.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2452737B449 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:31:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by lunatic.oneinsane.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 63ADD1550E; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:18:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:18:19 -0800 From: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: Alfred Perlstein , Will Andrews , Christoph Kukulies , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wireless Lan - recommendations Message-ID: <20011218091819.A31979@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: Ron Rosson Mail-Followup-To: "Chad R. Larson" , Alfred Perlstein , Will Andrews , Christoph Kukulies , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200112100850.fBA8oNV85788@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> <20011210142256.B23826@squall.waterspout.com> <20011210133744.H92148@elvis.mu.org> <20011212114909.D7869@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011212114909.D7869@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 11:49:09AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 4.4-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waxing Crescent (15% of Full) X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: 3F11 DB43 F080 C037 96F0 F8D3 5BD2 652B 171C 86DB X-Uptime: 9:17AM up 2 days, 20:37, 2 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.05, 0.04 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chad R. Larson (chad@DCFinc.com) wrote: > > We've had good luck with the SMC 2655W. We've deployed 4 of them, > and have roving coverage of our whole building. They're SNMP > managable, they publish the MIB, they support MAC filtering (folks > may sniff your net, but they can't hijack it), do 128bit WEP, have > an option whereby they can be powered over the unused pairs in the > CAT5 cable, so you only have to run one wire. Last one we bought > was about $190 at Fry's. > Are you able to use WEP under FreeBSD to the access point? TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If only you'd use your powers for good instead of evil To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 22:49:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F70B37B405 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBK6n8a24965; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:49:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBK6n7M32976; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:49:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200112200649.fBK6n7M32976@harmony.village.org> To: Will Andrews Subject: Re: PC-Card slot on Sony Vaio PCG-R505JL under -CURRENT Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:11:20 EST." <20011219211120.B73815@squall.waterspout.com> References: <20011219211120.B73815@squall.waterspout.com> <20011218140112.O52953@squall.waterspout.com> <20011218021226.L52953@squall.waterspout.com> <200112180821.fBI8KxM83170@harmony.village.org> <200112191419.fBJEJJM27491@harmony.village.org> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:49:07 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20011219211120.B73815@squall.waterspout.com> Will Andrews writes: : On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:19:19AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: : > try different values of pccard_mem in your /etc/rc.conf. OLDCARD : > isn't good about figuring this out on its own. 0xd0000 is the : > default, try 0xd4000, 0xd8000, 0xdc000. : : None of those work; I also tried NEWCARD but that didn't even : detect the pc-card bus. :( Hmmmm. Then I'm unable to help you for a while. I'm leaving for new mexico tomorrow and I don't know when I'll be back. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 19 23:13:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8871237B405 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 16GxO7-0007eH-00 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 02:13:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 02:13:07 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wireless Lan - recommendations Message-ID: <20011220021307.A29159@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200112100850.fBA8oNV85788@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> <20011210142256.B23826@squall.waterspout.com> <20011210133744.H92148@elvis.mu.org> <20011212114909.D7869@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20011218091819.A31979@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011218091819.A31979@lunatic.oneinsane.net>; from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net on Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 09:18:19AM -0800 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson probably said: > Chad R. Larson (chad@DCFinc.com) wrote: > > We've had good luck with the SMC 2655W. We've deployed 4 of them, > > and have roving coverage of our whole building. They're SNMP > Are you able to use WEP under FreeBSD to the access point? He's talking about a base station. The SMC base stations work just fine to FreeBSD clients (I have a pair of SMC base stations at home) with or without WEP. I have yet to see any sign that WEP works wth the SMC client cards (it certainly didn't the last time I tried it), but that is another matter. P. -- pir pir-sig@pir.net pir-sig@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Dec 20 1:28:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mailbox.univie.ac.at (mailbox.univie.ac.at [131.130.1.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBFC37B41B for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 01:28:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcle2.cc.univie.ac.at (pcle2.cc.univie.ac.at [131.130.2.177]) by mailbox.univie.ac.at (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fBK9SHv23590 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:28:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:28:16 +0100 (CET) From: Lukas Ertl X-X-Sender: le@pcle2.cc.univie.ac.at To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Thinkpad T20 / XFree 4.1 Message-ID: <20011220102215.L5486-100000@pcle2.cc.univie.ac.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, can anyone of you help me configuring XFree on a Thinkpad T20? I tried configuring with xf86cfg, which seems to start up, but it crashes immediatly. At least it leaves an XF86Config file lying around. When I use this file I can start X but at a horrible resolution of 640x480. Trying to start xf86cfg then from an xterm results in "Cannot to open config file.", and "xf86cfg -xf86config XF86Config" results in "Loader running on FreeBSD. Illegal instruction". Has anyone of you a working XF86Config for that model? (The graphics chip is a S3 Savage IX, I think.) regards, le --=20 Lukas Ertl eMail: l.ertl@univie.ac.at UNIX-Systemadministrator Tel.: (+43 1) 4277-14073 Zentraler Informatikdienst (ZID) Fax.: (+43 1) 4277-9140 der Universit=E4t Wien http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~le/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Dec 20 3:27: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mailbox.univie.ac.at (mailbox.univie.ac.at [131.130.1.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1F037B405 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from le.adsl.cc.univie.ac.at (le.adsl.cc.univie.ac.at [193.171.3.9]) by mailbox.univie.ac.at (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fBKBQpv100794; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:26:54 +0100 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:26:41 +0100 (CET) From: Lukas Ertl X-X-Sender: le@korben To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Solved (was: Re: Thinkpad T20 / XFree 4.1) In-Reply-To: <20011220102215.L5486-100000@pcle2.cc.univie.ac.at> Message-ID: <20011220122511.W59283-100000@korben> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Lukas Ertl wrote: > Has anyone of you a working XF86Config for that model? (The graphics chip > is a S3 Savage IX, I think.) I solved the issue, after adding HorizSync 30-70 VertRefresh 50-90 in the monitor section X runs fine :-) regards, le --=20 Lukas Ertl eMail: l.ertl@univie.ac.at UNIX-Systemadministrator Tel.: (+43 1) 4277-14073 Zentraler Informatikdienst (ZID) Fax.: (+43 1) 4277-9140 der Universit=E4t Wien http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~le/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 21 7:30:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.46.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F083F37B405 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 07:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.11.1/8.9.3) id fBLFUBs03175 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:30:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kuku) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:30:11 +0100 (CET) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <200112211530.fBLFUBs03175@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: access point vs. point to point Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just a question: What is peculiar to an accesspoint? Can a FreeBSD computer with a PCI card with a PCMCIA holding a wireless LAN adapter serve multiple notebook computers? -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 21 7:34:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.46.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D660537B416 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 07:34:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.11.1/8.9.3) id fBLFYqK03270 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:34:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kuku) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:34:52 +0100 (CET) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <200112211534.fBLFYqK03270@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: ELSA Air Lancer MC-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anybody know whether FreeBSD works with this wireless LAN pccard adapter? (ELSA AirLancer MC-11). -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 21 8:30:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from math.teaser.net (math.teaser.net [213.91.2.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6710237B41C for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:30:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from notbsdems.nantes.kisoft-services.com (nantes.kisoft-services.com [193.56.60.243]) by math.teaser.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C506C823; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:30:26 +0100 (CET) Received: by notbsdems.nantes.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 81BDAE6DFB; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:42:38 +0100 (CET) To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ELSA Air Lancer MC-11 References: <200112211534.fBLFYqK03270@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <200112211534.fBLFYqK03270@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> (Christoph Kukulies's message of "Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:34:52 +0100 (CET)") X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:42:36 +0100 Message-ID: <86wuzgwpeb.fsf@notbsdems.nantes.kisoft-services.com> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley, i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Christoph" == Christoph Kukulies writes: Christoph> Does anybody know whether FreeBSD works with this wireless Christoph> LAN pccard adapter? (ELSA AirLancer MC-11). It's an OEM of Lucent, it attachs via wi. Eric Masson -- J'ai beaucoup de mal a lire fcola quand il y a toutes les annonces de howto : les annonces interessantes sont noyees dans les howto. Ca serait pas mal de degager toute cette pollution dans un autre groupe. JLM in Guide du linuxien pervers : "Cachez ces doc que je ne saurais voir" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 21 9:27:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from cx952600-a.fed1.sdca.home.com (cx952600-a.fed1.sdca.home.com [24.4.92.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4D837B41B for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from azinger (azinger.noonans.com [192.168.1.6]) by cx952600-a.fed1.sdca.home.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id fBLHROi03096; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:27:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from snoonan@cx952600-a.fed1.sdca.home.com) From: "Sean Noonan" To: "Roger" , Subject: RE: Sony PCG-R505JLK Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:27:24 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3C19CFD4.B04359F9@henoc.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have a Sony VAIO PCG-GR250P and I had the exact same problem. The hw.pcic.intr_path="1" and hw.pcic.irq="0" setings didn't work for me. My solution was to use the 4.3 iso image, which worked find except it didn't recoginize my built-in Intel Pro 100 VE NIC. So, I used a 16-bit Linksys PCMCIA NIC with the 4.3 ISO, then cvsup'ed to 4.4-STABLE. At that point the boot problem went away AND my Intel NIC was recognized. HTH, Sean. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Roger Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:09 AM To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sony PCG-R505JLK Good morning, it is 05:00 am here... I just recevied my new Sony Laptop, but I'm stuck in the installation process. I tried the 4.4 iso image, even the RH 7.2 and the Solaris Intel CD's. I purchased this laptop because, I used and am still using a Z505 without a glitch (only the memory stick had to be disabled). In the installation process at the very begining when the kernel boots it freezes at : ad0: 14403MB [2964/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c Any ideas, before I return this ... laptop. http://www.sonystyle.ca/webapp/commerce/servlet/ProductDisplay?merchant_rn=1 &prrfnbr=57545&display=features -- Roger@henoc.com http://henoc.com Network Admin / Unix Consultant Montreal, Qc, Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 21 10:38:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9C437B419 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 00B0C81E0C; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:38:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:38:23 -0600 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: access point vs. point to point Message-ID: <20011221123823.R48837@elvis.mu.org> References: <200112211530.fBLFUBs03175@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200112211530.fBLFUBs03175@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de>; from kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de on Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 04:30:11PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Christoph Kukulies [011221 09:30] wrote: > > Just a question: What is peculiar to an accesspoint? Can a > FreeBSD computer with a PCI card with a PCMCIA holding a wireless LAN > adapter serve multiple notebook computers? An accesspoint typically acts as a bridge to ethernet. You can use a PCI card in a freebsd box, but you won't be able to use "BSS" mode, just "adhoc". I'm not really sure what that means exactly, but I switched from an PCI card to an access point (addtron) because I kept having difficulties with my PCI card version. -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' http://www.morons.org/rants/gpl-harmful.php3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 21 11:48:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE9737B434 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:47:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (#6@localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBLJkW719107; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:46:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <200112211946.fBLJkW719107@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Christoph Kukulies , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Image-URL: http://www.transsys.com/louie/images/louie-mail.jpg From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: access point vs. point to point References: <200112211530.fBLFUBs03175@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> <20011221123823.R48837@elvis.mu.org> In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:38:23 CST." <20011221123823.R48837@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:46:32 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > * Christoph Kukulies [011221 09:30] wrote: > > > > Just a question: What is peculiar to an accesspoint? Can a > > FreeBSD computer with a PCI card with a PCMCIA holding a wireless LAN > > adapter serve multiple notebook computers? > > An accesspoint typically acts as a bridge to ethernet. > > You can use a PCI card in a freebsd box, but you won't be able to > use "BSS" mode, just "adhoc". > > I'm not really sure what that means exactly, but I switched from > an PCI card to an access point (addtron) because I kept having > difficulties with my PCI card version. And for completeness, an 802.11 access point also acts at a bridge between the wireless devices as well. That is, in your example, the traffic between the laptop computers would go via the access point, given a wider coverage area "centered" on the access point. The other stations need not be able to "hear" each other. In addition, the access point arbitrates access to the RF channel, preventing the "hidden terminal" problem. That's when two stations listen for a clear RF channel before they transmit; since they can't hear each other, one might "step on" another station, and the mutual interference might mean that neither gets through. When the station is associated with an access point, the access point polls each of the stations for traffic so that two stations won't try to transmit at the same time. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 21 15:55: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from pendragon.tacni.net (radius.tacni.net [64.247.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1079737B41A for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 64638 invoked by alias); 21 Dec 2001 23:53:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO there) (216.201.173.186) by tacni.net with SMTP; 21 Dec 2001 23:53:29 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Erich Zigler To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: WaveLAN Silver Cards and FreeBSD Machines Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:53:37 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011221235340.1079737B41A@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm currently building a router/firewall to connect my wireless network to my ethernet network. I am using an ISA adaptor and a Lucent WaveLAN Silver card. With encryption off I am only able to get at the max 300k/s throughput on a 11Mbps card. Yes, I know that I should not expect 11MB out of the card, but I should be able to get at least 5MB through the card. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on why it was slow. I also have a PCI adaptor I could try. What do you think? -- Not all moderators and FAQ-compilers eventually become power-mad and insane. Some of them started out that way. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Dec 22 7:21:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from cecov.masternet.it (cecov.masternet.it [194.184.65.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546B037B416 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 07:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from usul.scotty.masternet.it (modem22.masternet.it [194.184.65.217]) by cecov.masternet.it (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fBMFMwd53012; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 16:22:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011222155646.028627c0@194.184.65.7> X-Sender: gmarco@194.184.65.7 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 16:17:46 +0100 To: Christoph Kukulies From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: Re: access point vs. point to point Cc: mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200112211530.fBLFUBs03175@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 21/12/2001, you wrote: >Just a question: What is peculiar to an accesspoint? Can a >FreeBSD computer with a PCI card with a PCMCIA holding a wireless LAN >adapter serve multiple notebook computers? Form my home needs an adhoc connection is more than fine. My box is configured in this way: gmarco:/home/gmarco> ifconfig -a rl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255 ether 00:48:54:1a:42:df media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active wi0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.0.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 ether 00:30:ab:09:53:07 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: associated gmarco:/home/gmarco> wicontrol NIC serial number: [ 99SA01000000 ] Station name: [ FreeBSD WaveLAN/IEEE node ] SSID for IBSS creation: [ your_ssid ] Current netname (SSID): [ your_ssid ] Desired netname (SSID): [ your_ssid ] Current BSSID: [ 7a:00:2d:01:c1:00 ] Channel list: [ 8191 ] IBSS channel: [ 3 ] Current channel: [ 3 ] Comms quality/signal/noise: [ 34 81 6 ] Promiscuous mode: [ Off ] Port type (1=BSS, 3=ad-hoc): [ 0 ] MAC address: [ 00:30:ab:09:53:07 ] TX rate (selection): [ 3 ] TX rate (actual speed): [ 5 ] RTS/CTS handshake threshold: [ 2347 ] Create IBSS: [ Off ] Access point density: [ 1 ] Power Mgmt (1=on, 0=off): [ 0 ] Max sleep time: [ 100 ] WEP encryption: [ Off ] TX encryption key: [ 1 ] Encryption keys: [ ][ ][ ][ ] The rl0 interface serves two other boxes on the net 10.0.0.x/24 while the wi0 is usually associated with one of my laptop running a xircom wl adapter (an0). portege:/home/gmarco# ancontrol -C Operating mode: [ ad-hoc ] Receive mode: [ broadcast/multicast/unicast ] Fragment threshold: [ 2312 ] RTS threshold: [ 2312 ] MAC address: [ 00:40:96:59:a1:ad ] Supported rates: [ 1.0Mbps 2.0Mbps 5.5Mbps 11.0Mbps ] Short retry limit: [ 16 ] Long retry limit: [ 16 ] TX MSDU lifetime: [ 5000 ] RX MSDU lifetime: [ 10000 ] Stationary: [ Off ] Ordering: [ Off ] Device type: [ PC4800 ] Scanning mode: [ active ] Probe delay: [ 3 ] Probe energy timeout: [ 3 ] Probe response timeout: [ 20 ] Beacon listen timeout: [ 40 ] IBSS join network timeout: [ 10000 ] Authentication timeout: [ 2000 ] WEP enabled: [ no ] Authentication type: [ open ] Association timeout: [ 5000 ] Specified AP association timeout: [ 10000 ] Offline scan interval: [ 0 ] Offline scan duration: [ 0 ] Link loss delay: [ 0 ] Max beacon loss time: [ 500 ] Refresh interval: [ 10000 ] Power save mode: [ none ] Sleep through DTIMs: [ Off ] Power save listen interval: [ 200 ] Power save fast listen interval: [ 100 ] Power save listen decay: [ 2 ] Power save fast listen decay: [ 200 ] AP/ad-hoc Beacon period: [ 100 ] AP/ad-hoc ATIM duration: [ 0 ] AP/ad-hoc current channel: [ 3 ] AP/ad-hoc DTIM period: [ 1 ] Radio type: [ 802.11 DS ] RX Diversity: [ antenna 1 and 2 ] TX Diversity: [ antenna 1 and 2 ] Transmit power level: [ 30 ] RSS threshold: [ 0 ] Node name: [ ] ARL threshold: [ 65535 ] ARL decay: [ 65535 ] ARL delay: [ 65535 ] WEP Key status: The active transmit key is 0 an0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.0.1.101 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 ether 00:40:96:59:a1:ad media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps ) status: associated ssid your_ssid stationname "" channel 3 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 200 wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 Btw A couple of things: 1) For let the wi0 works I have to use the following setup (taken part from someone who answered in this list :-) in /etc/rc.conf: ifconfig_rl0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_wi0="inet 10.0.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid your_ssid" and in /usr/local/etc/rc.d gmarco:/home/gmarco> less /usr/local/etc/rc.d/netgear.sh #!/bin/sh if ! PREFIX=$(expr $0 : "\(/.*\)/etc/rc\.d/$(basename $0)\$"); then echo "$0: Cannot determine the PREFIX" >&2 exit 1 fi case "$1" in start) wicontrol -p 0 -C 1 -q your_ssid && echo -n " netgear" ;; stop) ;; *) echo "Usage: `basename $0` {start|stop}" >&2 ;; esac exit 0 If these parameters are not set the card don't want to associated with the aironet 4800. I tried to read the man pages for the wi, but perhaps it is just a little outdated or wrong because: my cmd is wicontrol -p 0 -C 1 -q your_ssid but: -i iface -p port_type Set the port type for a specified interface. The legal values for port_type are 1 (BSS mode) and 3 (ad-hoc) mode. In ad-hoc mode, the station can communicate directly with any other sta- tions within direct radio range (provided that they are also operating in ad-hoc mode). In BSS mode, hosts must associate with a service set controlled by an access point, which relays traffic between end stations. The default setting is 3 (ad-hoc mode). so -p 0 is not a valid choice :-) !!!!! -i iface -C Display the cached signal strength information maintained by the wi(4) driver. The driver retains information about signal strength and noise level for packets received from different hosts. The signal strength and noise level values are displayed in units of dBms. The signal quality values is produced by sub- tracting the noise level from the signal strength (i.e. less noise and better signal yields better signal quality). This is a display option , but I use it to set :-) 2) I have two xircom wl card so I can try to use 2 laptop simultaneously to see what happens :-) Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.gufi.org/~gmarco To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message