From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 4:40:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED44837B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 04:40:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA99587; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:40:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:40:34 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: Pete French Cc: Subject: Re: Very odd clock problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Pete French wrote: > One of our FreeBSD machine is starting to loose time very badly. Odd as it > is running ntp from 5 different servers. Its also not a small loss, the > clock jumps backwards to the year 1933 ! Anybody got any ideas or seen > anything similar ? Check your hardware, make sure everything has good electrical contact. I took out the video card from one of our test servers a few weeks ago, cleaned the video card's bus contacts and put it back into the server. Before that the time-of-day was speeding up, NTP got confused so I used timed instead, timed had to pull back the time-of-day by 40-50 seconds every four minutes. (We use both NTP and timed at this site, most servers use NTP, but one server cannot handle NTP yet since it is running RISC/os.) After cleaning the video card the time-of-day is running normal, NTP is now able to syncronize, and the colours on the monitor are back. I later replaced the video card with another video card just to be safe. Let me just add that the faulty video card was a ISA card, whereas the new video card and the NIC are both PCI cards. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestøl | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.5-S & Pine 4.31 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 4:44:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dilbert.fcg.co.uk (dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk [194.203.69.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF7337B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 04:44:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfrench@firstcallgroup.co.uk) Received: from pfrench by dilbert.fcg.co.uk with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1593dp-000P2t-00; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:44:25 +0100 To: hackr_d@yahoo.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Very odd clock problem In-Reply-To: <20010609141529.70649.qmail@web14708.mail.yahoo.com> Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:44:25 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Output from dmesg would help... There isnt anything - it seems to just jump without leaving any traces in logfiles that I have found yet :-( -pcf. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 6:27:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lorca.tdx.co.uk (uk1.hood.co.uk [195.188.177.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D57937B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 06:27:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@lorca.tdx.co.uk) Received: (from kpielorz@localhost) by lorca.tdx.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5ADPCc00402 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:25:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Karl Pielorz Reply-To: kpielorz@tdx.co.uk To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Going -stable - not as easy as you'd think? Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:25:12 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061014251200.00223@lorca.tdx.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, Has anyone noticed, that going to -stable isn't as easy as it used to be? - Or is it just me? - In recent days, I've had to make -stable a number of slightly different machines... A 4.3-Release system, that currently fails with "don't know how to make mlfk_ipl.c" [don't have access to this box at the moment, so I've not been able to try and fix it]. A 4.3-Beta system, which failed with 'pipe broken' and other nasties (thanks to -stable mailing list, obliterating my make.conf with the 'new' /usr/src/etc/defaults/make.conf fixed this one, strange but true...) A 4.2-Stable system, which now fails during build with "ipmon.c:95: `TH_ECN' undeclared here (not in a function)" - that I've not managed to fix yet... On each of these I've been very careful to clean out /usr/obj, cvsup (and cvsup a couple of hours later if I encounter a problem and try again), and also keep an eye on -stable and /usr/src/UPDATING... I know theres been a few things flying around re. ipfilter etc. - have I just hit a 'bad time' - or is the world really moving that fast now? -Kp [Remembering fondly the days of tracking -stable throughout the 3.x tree, with relatively apparent ease :)] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 7:33:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from oddjob.trewitt.org (adsl-216-102-95-11.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.95.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B71C37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:33:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glenn@trewitt.org) Received: from trewitt.org (g4.trewitt.org [10.0.0.4]) by oddjob.trewitt.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5AEX6a36749; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:33:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glenn@trewitt.org) Message-ID: <3B238528.75D30B3B@trewitt.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:33:11 -0700 From: Glenn Trewitt Reply-To: glenn@trewitt.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mario Doria Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with IPFilter (make buildkernel) References: <005301c0f172$37e0f7b0$0a00a8c0@midgar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the same problem a day or two ago. It's nothing you did. The trigger for this was that sometime recently mlfk_ipl.c moved from "netinet" to "contrib". Deep down in the /usr/obj tree: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys//modules/usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter to be exact, the file .depend contains the old location, and "make buildkernel" doesn't regenerate it. The cure is simple. Just go in and delete the entire build tree at /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ Then, make buildkernel will work fine. - Glenn Trewitt Mario Doria wrote: > Hello, > > Just synchronized my sources and made world, but when I did make kernel, it > stopped with this error message: > > cc -O -pipe -DIPV6FIREWALL -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-exte > rns -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcas > t-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I@/.. > /include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -c setdef1.c > ld -Bshareable -o ip6fw.ko setdef0.o ip6fw.kld setdef1.o > ===> ipfilter > make: don't know how to make > /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/../../netinet/mlfk_ipl.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TEC-DIGITAL. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > The kernel I'm compiling enables SMP and IPFILTER, other than that, it's the > same as GENERIC. Is this only happening on my box? Has anybody else > experienced this problem? > > Thanks, > > Mario Doria > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 8: 5: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0370737B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:05:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 82308 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Jun 2001 15:05:21 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:05:21 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Donn Miller Cc: pjklist@ekahuna.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Improvements for FreeBSD v4.3.1-Release? Message-ID: <20010610170521.E80709@mail.webmonster.de> References: <3B21D639.14436.461C2A4@localhost> <20010609154753.32846.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="o0ZfoUVt4BxPQnbU" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010609154753.32846.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com>; from hackr_d@yahoo.com on Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 08:47:53AM -0700 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --o0ZfoUVt4BxPQnbU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Donn Miller(hackr_d@yahoo.com)@2001.06.09 08:47:53 +0000: >=20 > --- "Philip J. Koenig" wrote: >=20 > > I thought the conclusion was that SoftUpdates which comes with=20 > > FreeBSD had many advantages over typical journalling FS's.=20 >=20 > Which is why Sun and SGI both use Soft Updates on their > filesystems. >=20 > I think it's all a matter of tradeoffs. Journaling probably isn't as > fast as softupdates, but otoh, really huge filesystems don't have to > have the long fsck that softupdates requires. BUT, if background fsck > ever gets implemented, it should help immensely even the score in that > area. as matt i think mentioned a while ago, carefully choosing the cylinders/group, maxbpg and bytes/inode sizes it is possible to have a multi-TB filesystem that is process by fsck in under 5 minutes. it won't hold many small files then, that's the drawback. >=20 > In general, I think journaling is better, but what happens when the > journal itself gets corrupted? Another [+] for softupdates. Ok, I > don't know what I'm talking about. this behaviour should not be very different from softupdates/ffs /k --=20 > If you meet somebody who tells you that he loves you more than anybody > in the whole wide world, don't trust him. It means he experiments. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 --o0ZfoUVt4BxPQnbU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7I4ywM0BPTilkv0YRAs25AJ9eeIZsYKtBBX8NoM0A5zVLr9QvUACgqBsa UDuI9EIaLQZmR7jQfE8/0QI= =LQ9a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --o0ZfoUVt4BxPQnbU-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 8: 5:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blues.jpj.net (blues.jpj.net [204.97.17.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC3F37B408 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:05:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benh@jpj.net) Received: from [192.168.10.2] (xlate-6-168.webster.edu [198.246.6.168]) by blues.jpj.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5AF4jY16048 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:04:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: benh@blues.jpj.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:09:06 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Ben Hockenhull Subject: Error code 126 on make world? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been trying to make world on a Sony Vaio R505TS and have been having trouble at the same point each time. Most recent source supped last night. This is on a 4.3-RELEASE machine, trying to go to 4.3-STABLE. ===> sys/boot/i386/btx ===> sys/boot/i386/btx/btx (cd /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/btx/btx; m4 btx.s) | as --defsym BTX_FLAGS=0x0 -o btx.o {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:527: Warning: stand-alone `data16' prefix {standard input}:544: Warning: stand-alone `data16' prefix ld -N -e start -Ttext 0x9000 -o btx.out btx.o objcopy -S -O binary btx.out btx ===> sys/boot/i386/btx/btxldr (cd /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/btx/btxldr; m4 -DLOADER_ADDRESS=0x200000 btxldr.s ) | as -o btxldr.o ld -N -e start -Ttext 0x200000 -o btxldr.out btxldr.o objcopy -S -O binary btxldr.out btxldr ===> sys/boot/i386/btx/lib as -elf -o btxcsu.o /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/btx/lib/btxcsu.s as -elf -o btxsys.o /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/btx/lib/btxsys.s as -elf -o btxv86.o /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/btx/lib/btxv86.s ld -elf -i -o crt0.o btxcsu.o btxsys.o btxv86.o ===> sys/boot/i386/boot2 as --defsym FLAGS=0x80 /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/boot1.s -o boot1.o ld -nostdlib -static -N -e start -Ttext 0x7c00 -o boot1.out boot1.o objcopy -S -O binary boot1.out boot1 dd if=/dev/zero of=boot2.ldr bs=512 count=1 2>/dev/null *** Error code 126 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Thanks Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 9: 8:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-67.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E6F37B407 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:08:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5AG8Jn55418 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:08:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bill) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:08:15 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Ports readme problems Message-ID: <20010610120815.A55287@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is this the correct list to post a ports problem in stable? I build indexes and the readme for the ports I cvsup regularly. I got errors on the readmes and it halted when trying to build a readme for devel/p5-Date-Doomsday with the error reporting it can't find it. Sure enough it's not there. I removed it from the Makefile and rebuilt it, but of course the next CVSup replaces that. Making the readmes in the x11/XFree86-4 directory fails with 'argument list too long' and it's easy to see why as the pkg-list is over 6000 lines long. Perhaps it's time to put 'xargs' in the scripts :-) Editing the Makefile here to take out the decent into XFree86-4 fixed this, but any CVSup will put things back. Not a major problem but could cause concern for some. -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 10:38:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ctonet.it (mail.ctonet.it [212.110.160.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F127A37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:38:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olgeni@uli.it) Received: from olgeni.olgeni (ppp-199.dial5.ctonet.it [212.110.180.199]) by mail.ctonet.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF84121CD; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:38:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (bogus@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olgeni.olgeni (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5AHdQJ94651; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:39:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olgeni@uli.it) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:39:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Jimmy Olgeni X-X-Sender: To: Karl Pielorz Cc: Subject: Re: Going -stable - not as easy as you'd think? In-Reply-To: <01061014251200.00223@lorca.tdx.co.uk> Message-ID: <20010610192058.T62571-100000@olgeni.olgeni> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Karl Pielorz wrote: > A 4.3-Release system, that currently fails with "don't know how to make > mlfk_ipl.c" [don't have access to this box at the moment, so I've not been > able to try and fix it]. I have a 4.3-STABLE whose "make buildkernel" says: [...] ===> ipfilter make: don't know how to make /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/../../netinet/mlfk_ipl.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Is it related to the recent ipfilter migration to contrib/ ? -- jimmy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 10:50: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE4637B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mixtim@home.com) Received: from cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com ([65.2.79.221]) by femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010610175004.KLEH24283.femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com>; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:50:04 -0700 Received: (from mixtim@localhost) by cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5AHo4T49665; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:50:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mixtim) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:50:03 -0400 From: Mixtim To: Jimmy Olgeni Cc: Karl Pielorz , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Going -stable - not as easy as you'd think? Message-ID: <20010610135003.A22554@home.com> References: <01061014251200.00223@lorca.tdx.co.uk> <20010610192058.T62571-100000@olgeni.olgeni> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010610192058.T62571-100000@olgeni.olgeni>; from olgeni@uli.it on Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:39:26PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:39:26PM +0200, Jimmy Olgeni wrote: > > A 4.3-Release system, that currently fails with "don't know how to make > > mlfk_ipl.c" [don't have access to this box at the moment, so I've not been > > able to try and fix it]. > > I have a 4.3-STABLE whose "make buildkernel" says: > ===> ipfilter > make: don't know how to make /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/../../netinet/mlfk_ipl.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 > Is it related to the recent ipfilter migration to contrib/ ? A lot of people must have a bad source tree or wacky /etc/make.conf options. I've done several "make buildworld"'s with 4.3-STABLE since the IPFilter move and haven't had a single build failure. And yes, I use IPFilter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 12:34:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mediator.uni-c.dk (mediator.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1484A37B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:34:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ie@mediator.uni-c.dk) Received: from IVAN-E (ivan-e.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.75]) by mediator.uni-c.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5AJYqa26515 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:34:53 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:35:00 +0200 (Romance Daylight Time) From: Ivan Eriksen To: Subject: PAM and OpenSSH in 4.3-20010906-STABLE Message-ID: X-X-Sender: ie@mediator.uni-c.dk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I'm pretty new to this -stable business, so maybe my problem is due to my inexperience, but here goes: I have two freshly installed stable boxes - both installed from a snap-server. One box from 20010604 [1] and one from 20010609 [2]. The last one won't let me use rsa or dsa keys to log in via slogin. Password authentication works. [1] works fine with both key- and password auth.. I cant really see the difference between these boxes, but nevertheless on [2] I get: sshd[27906]: fatal: PAM setcred failed[6]: Permission denied Below is a dump from sshd in debug mode.. Any ideas? Otherwise I hope the problem will go away by itself :-) / IE debug1: sshd version OpenSSH_2.3.0 green@FreeBSD.org 20010321 debug1: read DSA private key done debug1: Bind to port 22 on ::. Server listening on :: port 22. debug1: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0. Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22. Generating 768 bit RSA key. RSA key generation complete. debug1: Server will not fork when running in debugging mode. Connection from port 723 Connection from port 723 debug1: Client protocol version 2.0; client software version OpenSSH_2.5.1p1 debug1: no match: OpenSSH_2.5.1p1 Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_2.3.0 green@FreeBSD.org 20010321 debug1: send KEXINIT debug1: done debug1: wait KEXINIT debug1: got kexinit: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 debug1: got kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss debug1: got kexinit: 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael128-cbc,rijndael192-cbc,rijndael256-cbc,rijndael-cbc@lysator.liu.se debug1: got kexinit: 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael128-cbc,rijndael192-cbc,rijndael256-cbc,rijndael-cbc@lysator.liu.se debug1: got kexinit: hmac-sha1,hmac-md5,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160@openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 debug1: got kexinit: hmac-sha1,hmac-md5,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160@openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 debug1: got kexinit: none debug1: got kexinit: none debug1: got kexinit: debug1: got kexinit: debug1: first kex follow: 0 debug1: reserved: 0 debug1: done debug1: kex: client->server 3des-cbc hmac-sha1 none debug1: kex: server->client 3des-cbc hmac-sha1 none debug1: Wait SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST. debug1: bits set: 1039/2049 debug1: Sending SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP. debug1: Wait SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT. debug1: bits set: 1049/2049 debug1: sig size 20 20 debug1: send SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS. debug1: done: send SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS. debug1: Wait SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS. debug1: GOT SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS. debug1: done: KEX2. debug1: userauth-request for user service ssh-connection method none debug1: attempt #1 debug1: Starting up PAM with username "" Failed none for from port 723 ssh2 debug1: userauth-request for user service ssh-connection method publickey debug1: attempt #2 debug1: matching key found: file /home//.ssh/authorized_keys2, line 1 debug1: len 55 datafellows 0 debug1: dsa_verify: signature correct debug1: PAM setting rhost to "" Accepted publickey for from port 723 ssh2 debug1: Entering interactive session for SSH2. debug1: server_init_dispatch_20 debug1: server_input_channel_open: ctype session rchan 0 win 32768 max 16384 debug1: open session debug1: channel 0: new [server-session] debug1: session_new: init debug1: session_new: session 0 debug1: session_open: channel 0 debug1: session_open: session 0: link with channel 0 debug1: confirm session debug1: session_by_channel: session 0 channel 0 debug1: session_input_channel_req: session 0 channel 0 request pty-req reply 0 debug1: session_pty_req: session 0 alloc /dev/ttyp3 debug1: session_by_channel: session 0 channel 0 debug1: session_input_channel_req: session 0 channel 0 request x11-req reply 0 debug1: Received request for X11 forwarding with auth spoofing. debug1: bind port 6010: Address already in use debug1: fd 8 setting O_NONBLOCK debug1: fd 8 IS O_NONBLOCK debug1: channel 1: new [X11 inet listener] debug1: fd 9 setting O_NONBLOCK debug1: fd 9 IS O_NONBLOCK debug1: channel 2: new [X11 inet listener] debug1: session_by_channel: session 0 channel 0 debug1: session_input_channel_req: session 0 channel 0 request shell reply 0 debug1: PAM setting tty to "/dev/ttyp3" debug1: do_pam_session: euid 0, uid 0 debug1: PAM establishing creds fatal: PAM setcred failed[6]: Permission denied debug1: Calling cleanup 0x8054fa4(0x807c880) debug1: xauthfile_cleanup_proc called debug1: Calling cleanup 0x8055018(0x807c880) debug1: pty_cleanup_proc: /dev/ttyp3 debug1: Calling cleanup 0x8066bf8(0x0) debug1: channel_free: channel 1: status: The following connections are open: #0 server-session (t10 r0 i1/0 o16/0 fd -1/-1) debug1: channel_free: channel 2: status: The following connections are open: #0 server-session (t10 r0 i1/0 o16/0 fd -1/-1) debug1: Calling cleanup 0x8058bf4(0x0) debug1: Cannot delete credentials[6]: Permission denied debug1: Calling cleanup 0x805f418(0x0) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 12:35: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lorca.tdx.co.uk (uk1.hood.co.uk [195.188.177.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC4037B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:34:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@lorca.tdx.co.uk) Received: (from kpielorz@localhost) by lorca.tdx.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5AJWYZ00736; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:32:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Karl Pielorz Reply-To: kpielorz@tdx.co.uk To: Mixtim , Jimmy Olgeni Subject: Re: Going -stable - not as easy as you'd think? Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:32:34 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <01061014251200.00223@lorca.tdx.co.uk> <20010610192058.T62571-100000@olgeni.olgeni> <20010610135003.A22554@home.com> In-Reply-To: <20010610135003.A22554@home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061020323400.00538@lorca.tdx.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 10 June 2001 6:50 pm, Mixtim wrote: > Is it related to the recent ipfilter migration to contrib/ ? > > A lot of people must have a bad source tree or wacky /etc/make.conf > options. I've done several "make buildworld"'s with 4.3-STABLE since the > IPFilter move and haven't had a single build failure. And yes, I use > IPFilter. Hmmm, none of the machines I've been building have actually used it, or had it anywhere in the kernel config... As for 'wacky make.conf'? - Not here :) - Source trees? - The jury's still out - on two of the three machines I'd blown away the whole of /usr/src and re-cvsup'd to see if that fixed... I guess it must (hope) it's just a 'bad patch' [excuse the pun, please :)] -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 12:39:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mediator.uni-c.dk (mediator.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A0237B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:39:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ie@mediator.uni-c.dk) Received: from IVAN-E (ivan-e.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.75]) by mediator.uni-c.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5AJdma28634 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:39:48 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:39:56 +0200 (Romance Daylight Time) From: Ivan Eriksen To: Subject: Re: PAM and OpenSSH in 4.3-20010906-STABLE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: ie@mediator.uni-c.dk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Ivan Eriksen wrote: > sshd[27906]: fatal: PAM setcred failed[6]: Permission denied Forget the above - I see, that you guys already discussed the problem. I'll go read the archives instead. Thanks! / IE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 13: 3: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pt-quorum.com (pt-quorum.com [209.10.167.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8D437B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:02:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com) Received: from p088-237.netc.pt ([213.30.47.88]) by pt-quorum.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18747 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:55:31 +0100 Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:05:26 +0100 (WEST) From: Nuno Teixeira Reply-To: Nuno Teixeira To: Subject: "unknown option "TCP_RESTRICT_RST" ?" Message-ID: <20010610204038.R55770-100000@gateway.bogus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello to all, I allways used TCP_RESTRICT_RST on my firewall/kernel configuration. I'm tracking STABLE and the last build was on 2001-06-06. Today, 2001-06-10, when I'm make buildkernel I got the error: ""unknown option "TCP_RESTRICT_RST" ". Does this option has been deprecated? Thanks very much, -- Nuno Teixeira Dir. Técnico pt-quorum.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 13:12:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCF237B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:12:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net) Received: from smtp.bmi.net (dsl-154.bmi.net [207.173.60.230]) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA00066; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:12:28 -0700 Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:12:39 -0700 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: Nuno Teixeira Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "unknown option "TCP_RESTRICT_RST" ?" Message-ID: <20010610131239.C540@johncoop> References: <20010610204038.R55770-100000@gateway.bogus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20010610204038.R55770-100000@gateway.bogus>; from nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com on Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 13:05:26 -0700 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.4 Lines: 22 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001.06.10 13:05 Nuno Teixeira wrote: > Hello to all, > > I allways used TCP_RESTRICT_RST on my firewall/kernel configuration. I'm > tracking STABLE and the last build was on 2001-06-06. Today, 2001-06-10, > when I'm make buildkernel I got the error: ""unknown option > "TCP_RESTRICT_RST" ". > > Does this option has been deprecated? > > Thanks very much, > > -- > Nuno Teixeira > Dir. Técnico > pt-quorum.com > > I believe support for it needs to be compiled-in to your kernel. Look at LINT, etc. for details. jmc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 13:22:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pt-quorum.com (pt-quorum.com [209.10.167.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C218C37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:22:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nuno.teixeira@pt-quorum.com) Received: from p088-237.netc.pt ([213.30.47.88]) by pt-quorum.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA18914; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:14:45 +0100 Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:24:41 +0100 (WEST) From: Nuno Teixeira To: John Merryweather Cooper Cc: Subject: Re: "unknown option "TCP_RESTRICT_RST" ?" In-Reply-To: <20010610131239.C540@johncoop> Message-ID: <20010610212142.V64973-100000@gateway.bogus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Yes, I looked at LINT file, and this tag is missing. The strange thing is that I make a buildkernel 4 days ago and everything is fine and now I got the this error. Bye, -- Nuno Teixeira Dir. Técnico pt-quorum.com -- PGP Pwublic Key: http://www.pt-quorum.com/pgp/nunoteixeira.asc Key fingerprint: 8C2C B364 D4DC 0C92 56F5 CE6F 8F07 720A 63A0 4FC7 -- On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, John Merryweather Cooper wrote: > On 2001.06.10 13:05 Nuno Teixeira wrote: > > Hello to all, > > > > I allways used TCP_RESTRICT_RST on my firewall/kernel configuration. I'm > > tracking STABLE and the last build was on 2001-06-06. Today, 2001-06-10, > > when I'm make buildkernel I got the error: ""unknown option > > "TCP_RESTRICT_RST" ". > > > > Does this option has been deprecated? > > > > Thanks very much, > > > > -- > > Nuno Teixeira > > Dir. Técnico > > pt-quorum.com > > > > > I believe support for it needs to be compiled-in to your kernel. Look at > LINT, etc. for details. > > jmc > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 13:29:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sirene.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (sirene.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.128.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAC037B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:29:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from krion%ponomare@uni-duesseldorf.de) Received: from ponomare@uni-duesseldorf.de (pc.unistrasse-1.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.26.17]) by neptun.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.10.12.16.25.p8) with ESMTP id <0GEQ000TDE8Q8H@neptun.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:29:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from krion@localhost) by ponomare@uni-duesseldorf.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5AKTDB14729; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:29:13 +0200 (CEST envelope-from krion) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:29:13 +0200 From: Kirill Ponomarew Subject: Re: "unknown option "TCP_RESTRICT_RST" ?" In-reply-to: <20010610204038.R55770-100000@gateway.bogus>; from nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com on Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 09:05:26PM +0100 To: Nuno Teixeira Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: Kirill Ponomarew , Nuno Teixeira , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20010610222913.A14307@uni-duesseldorf.de> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE References: <20010610204038.R55770-100000@gateway.bogus> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 09:05:26PM +0100, Nuno Teixeira wrote: > Hello to all, > > I allways used TCP_RESTRICT_RST on my firewall/kernel configuration. I'm > tracking STABLE and the last build was on 2001-06-06. Today, 2001-06-10, > when I'm make buildkernel I got the error: ""unknown option > "TCP_RESTRICT_RST" ". > > Does this option has been deprecated? [from cvs-all] Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 09:18:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Log: MFC: Nuke the TCP_RESTRICT_RST option. [/from cvs-all] -- Kirill Ponomarew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 13:31:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ctonet.it (mail.ctonet.it [212.110.160.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B592D37B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:31:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olgeni@uli.it) Received: from olgeni.olgeni (ppp-56.dial6.ctonet.it [212.110.181.56]) by mail.ctonet.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31444121CD; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:31:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (bogus@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olgeni.olgeni (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5AKWJp01177; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:32:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olgeni@uli.it) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:32:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Jimmy Olgeni X-X-Sender: To: Mixtim Cc: Karl Pielorz , Subject: Re: Going -stable - not as easy as you'd think? In-Reply-To: <20010610135003.A22554@home.com> Message-ID: <20010610203844.F22704-100000@olgeni.olgeni> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Mixtim wrote: > A lot of people must have a bad source tree or wacky /etc/make.conf options. It turns out that I had some bad .depend files around the source tree, and just removing /usr/obj didn't fix the problem. I removed all them and everything went fine :o) -- jimmy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 14: 5:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7B2637B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:05:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j_trzaska@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 20503 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2001 21:05:21 -0000 Received: from pd9037460.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO gmx.net) (217.3.116.96) by mail.gmx.net (mp020-rz3) with SMTP; 10 Jun 2001 21:05:21 -0000 Message-ID: <3B23E0D8.CAEE1FC4@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:04:24 +0200 From: Jens Trzaska X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: fatal trap 12 while copying files from a currupt filesystem? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! My system has a fatal trap 12 during copying files from one filesystem to another. The story: - crashed filesystem during heavy load with ide write cashe enabled - to many errors after fsck...newfs newfs -v -b 32768 -f 4096 -i 20000 -c 50 /dev/vinum/dhea-stripe - filesystem restored (tape) The result was a corrupted filesystem. Don't really know why but that is not the problem at this point. I didn't know it at this point. That may happen. :( First crash happened during dumping the filesystem. The percent counter ran over 100% -> panic. After looking on the files I found some 0-bytes-files and decided that the filesystem must be corrupt. Copying the whole file-structure with tar from this filesystem to another also results in a panic. A corrupt filesystem may happen but it should not panic the system. There are no hints about the problem in the logfiles. So how could i find the error? Finding the 0-byte-files was really luck. fsck runs over the filesystem and says that it is fine. It may log read-errors or something like that. But panic? I think that is a bit to heavy. *g* The system is 4.3-stable cvsupped around 2 weeks ago. If you need any more information let me know. Jens Trzaska -- (kgdb) symbol-file kernel.debug Reading symbols from kernel.debug...done. (kgdb) exec-file /var/crash/kernel.1 (kgdb) core-file /var/crash/vmcore.1 SMP 2 cpus IdlePTD 3489792 initial pcb at 2c6800 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 01000000 fault virtual address = 0x1c fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc165b579 stack pointer = 0x10:0xd5fe0c8c frame pointer = 0x10:0xd5fe0c98 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 14416 (tar) interrupt mask = none <- SMP: XXX trap number = 12 panic: page fault mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 01000000 boot() called on cpu#1 syncing disks... 170 134 67 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 giving up on 1 buffers Uptime: 3h3m27s dumping to dev #da/0x20001, offset 1048704 dump 511 510 509 508 507 506 505 504 503 502 501 500 499 498 497 496 495 494 493 492 491 490 489 488 487 486 485 484 483 482 481 480 479 478 477 476 475 474 473 472 471 470 469 468 467 466 465 464 463 462 461 460 459 458 457 456 455 454 453 452 451 450 449 448 447 446 445 444 443 442 441 440 439 438 437 436 435 434 433 432 431 430 429 428 427 426 425 424 423 422 421 420 419 418 417 416 415 414 413 412 411 410 409 408 407 406 405 404 403 402 401 400 399 398 397 396 395 394 393 392 391 390 389 388 387 386 385 384 383 382 381 380 379 378 377 376 375 374 373 372 371 370 369 368 367 366 365 364 363 362 361 360 359 358 357 356 355 354 353 352 351 350 349 348 347 346 345 344 343 342 341 340 339 338 337 336 335 334 333 332 331 330 329 328 327 326 325 324 323 322 321 320 319 318 317 316 315 314 313 312 311 310 309 308 307 306 305 304 303 302 301 300 299 298 297 296 295 294 293 292 291 290 289 288 287 286 285 284 283 282 281 280 279 278 277 276 275 274 273 272 271 270 269 268 267 266 265 264 263 262 261 260 259 258 257 256 255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248 247 246 245 244 243 242 241 240 239 238 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 205 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 --- #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:469 469 if (dumping++) { (kgdb) where #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:469 #1 0xc01604bb in boot (howto=256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:309 #2 0xc016086c in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc0299b8f, howto=-706226144) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:556 #3 0xc025ddd3 in trap_fatal (frame=0xd5fe0c4c, eva=28) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:951 #4 0xc025da69 in trap_pfault (frame=0xd5fe0c4c, usermode=0, eva=28) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:844 #5 0xc025d603 in trap (frame={tf_fs = 24, tf_es = -704774128, tf_ds = -1050345456, tf_edi = 396, tf_esi = -1033618496, tf_ebp = -704770920, tf_isp = -704770952, tf_ebx = 0, tf_edx = 23518, tf_ecx = -1069469696, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = -1050299015, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = 768, tf_ss = -1049552896}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:443 #6 0xc165b579 in ?? () #7 0xc165ab26 in ?? () #8 0xc165addf in ?? () #9 0xc165a4d3 in ?? () #10 0xc165a3da in ?? () #11 0xc01982dc in spec_strategy (ap=0xd5fe0d8c) at /usr/src/sys/miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:479 #12 0xc0197d09 in spec_vnoperate (ap=0xd5fe0d8c) at /usr/src/sys/miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:119 #13 0xc0218de5 in ufs_vnoperatespec (ap=0xd5fe0d8c) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2391 #14 0xc0218689 in ufs_strategy (ap=0xd5fe0dcc) at vnode_if.h:944 #15 0xc0218db5 in ufs_vnoperate (ap=0xd5fe0dcc) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2373 #16 0xc01848ec in bread (vp=0xd6728ec0, blkno=0, size=32768, cred=0x0, bpp=0xd5fe0e40) at vnode_if.h:944 #17 0xc02110fc in ffs_read (ap=0xd5fe0e64) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_readwrite.c:273 #18 0xc01940b8 in vn_read (fp=0xc17b23c0, uio=0xd5fe0ed4, cred=0xc1b74d80, flags=0, p=0xd5e7d820) at vnode_if.h:334 #19 0xc016e528 in dofileread (p=0xd5e7d820, fp=0xc17b23c0, fd=11, buf=0x8096000, nbyte=2048, offset=-1, flags=0) at /usr/src/sys/sys/file.h:147 #20 0xc016e3ee in read (p=0xd5e7d820, uap=0xd5fe0f80) at /usr/src/sys/kern/sys_generic.c:117 #21 0xc025e0fd in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = -1078001617, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = 2048, tf_ebp = -1077939752, tf_isp = -704770092, tf_ebx = 134832128, tf_edx = 134831616, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 3, tf_trapno = 7, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134719572, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 647, tf_esp = -1077939892, tf_ss = 47}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1150 #22 0xc024c03b in Xint0x80_syscall () cannot read proc at 0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 14:44:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C31437B405 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:44:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AA3EA400200; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:44:30 -0700 Message-ID: <3B23EA3E.29AB213B@urx.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:44:30 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jimmy Olgeni Cc: Mixtim , Karl Pielorz , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Going -stable - not as easy as you'd think? References: <20010610203844.F22704-100000@olgeni.olgeni> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jimmy Olgeni wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Mixtim wrote: > > > A lot of people must have a bad source tree or wacky /etc/make.conf options. > > It turns out that I had some bad .depend files around the source tree, > and just removing /usr/obj didn't fix the problem. > > I removed all them and everything went fine :o) Shortly after this thread appeared, I cvsup'ed and rebuilt 4.3-stable just fine. The .depend's might be something that a "make cleandir" would remove. Kent > > -- > jimmy > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 14:56:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from arg1.demon.co.uk (arg1.demon.co.uk [194.222.34.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E8837B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:56:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arg@arg1.demon.co.uk) Received: by arg1.demon.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 300) id A0D799B03; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:56:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arg1.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987355D1E; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:56:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:56:32 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Gordon X-X-Sender: To: Mike Meyer Cc: Subject: USB Smartmedia readers In-Reply-To: <15120.13484.96225.821341@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: <20010610221213.H66911-100000@server.arg.sj.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Following up on previous correspondance, I can confirm that both models of the FujiFilm USB SmartMedia readers (the obsolete SM-R1 and the current SM-R2) work OK with FreeBSD 4.3. In fact, they seem almost identical, apart from the fact that the case is now painted gloss purple rather than matt grey. On the inside, the PCB has had a re-layout but appears to have much the same chipset. They've forgotten to private-label the firmware in the new version: SM-R1 (empty): umass0: Fuji Photo Film SmartMedia R/W, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 4 umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (STALLED) da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 650KB/s transfers da1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present SM-R2 (with card loaded): umass0: Hagiwara Sys-Com SmartMedia R/W, rev 1.10/2.00, addr 5 umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (STALLED) da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 650KB/s transfers da1: 62MB (128000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 62C) Performance is good: reading through the filesystem gives a shade over 700Kbyte/sec; reading the raw device depends on the block size - with a 32K block size you get the same 700Kbyte/sec, down to about 80Kbyte/sec with 512byte block. Writing is slower - about 150 to 200Kbyte/sec. Software notes: 1) Hot-plugging the USB doesn't work: the device has to be connected at boot time for it to get properly associated with the CAM subsystem (doesn't matter if there is a card in the drive or not). After attempts to hot-plug, "camcontrol devlist" reports that the USB device is associated with pass1 but not da1, and "camcontrol rescan 1" hangs forever, sometimes leading to a panic if you then unplug. 2) The USB controller gets scanned before the SCSI controllers (at least in my system), so you need a kernel with the SCSI devices wired down if your root is on a SCSI drive (to avoid trying to mount root from the smartmedia). 3) The standard SmartMedia formatting has a full FDISK table and a DOS filesystem on it, so "mount -t msdos /dev/da1s1 /mnt" is required to mount a card written from a camera. 4) "camcontrol eject da1" turns off the drive active LED allowing the card to be removed (Fuji seem to be paranoid about this: there is a sticker on the top warning you not to try removing the card while the LED is on; there's a sensor attached to the eject lever that (presumably) allows the firmware to power down the card if you press the lever intemperately, and in any case the contacts on the card are designed so that GND disconnects last and so you'd be unlucky to blow it up anyhow). 5) "camcontrol format da1" will re-write the low-level format. This is useful if you have cards that have been used in a Rio MP3 player: the Rio uses a proprietary low-level format, and my (olympus) camera refuses to touch cards that have been used in the Rio, even with the menu option to format the card. After a low-level format in the reader, the camera is then happy to high-level format the card and you are back in business. As an aside, I also tried a very cheap smartmedia reader: ugen0: SCM Microsystems Inc. SCM eUSB SmartMedia , rev 1.00/1.00, addr 5 This is sold here as the "Cardport Swift" and claims to be made in the UK, (though I have my doubts, given the above ident string and I am fairly sure I've seen this OR-gate shaped housing elsewhere - see http://www.premierelect.co.uk/CARDportSwift.html for a picture). This unit does NOT work with FreeBSD. Compared to Fuji's concern over ejecting, this unit has no LEDs or eject levers at all - you just yank the card out when you feel like it. Surprisingly, their supplied Windows drivers don't crash when you do this. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 15:10:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jezebel.demon.co.uk (jezebel.demon.co.uk [158.152.38.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29C737B409 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:09:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rdls@jezebel.demon.co.uk) Received: (from rdls@localhost) by jezebel.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5AM6nd00743; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:06:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rdls) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:06:48 +0100 From: Richard Smith To: Juha Saarinen Cc: "Freebsd-Stable@Freebsd. Org" Subject: Re: Disk geometry oddity Message-ID: <20010610230647.A665@gaia.home.rdls.net> References: <00d601c0f142$6f5a0540$0a01a8c0@den2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00d601c0f142$6f5a0540$0a01a8c0@den2>; from juha@saarinen.org on Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 12:15:19PM +1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 12:15:19PM +1200, Juha Saarinen wrote: > I'm in the process of removing a concatenated vinum volume, consisting > of a partition/slice on da0 plus the entire da1. The two drives are 36GB > SCSI. > > I removed the vinum configuration with 'vinum resetconfig' and then just > created a new partition etc. on da1 and mounted it. Then I wanted to > reclaim the rest of the unused disk space on da0 (about 18GB) with > /stand/sysinstall, but got this warning that I haven't seen before. > >[snip] > > Fdisk says: > > > Disk name: da0 FDISK Partition > Editor > DISK Geometry: 4462 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 71682030 sectors > (35000MB) > > Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype > Flags > > 0 71687340 71687339 da0s1 3 freebsd 165 > C > > > Which is presumably the "more likely geometry". The amount of sectors in > the warning message works out as 71,686,800 which is 4,770 more than > what fdisk thinks. > > I don't get warning message with da1, however. > > Is this a side-effect of "dangerously dedicated mode"? I'm hesitant to > make any changes to the partition table of da0 at this stage. Yes. I got this when I moved a disk from "dangerously dedicated mode" to, er, "not dangerously dedicated mode". By allowing sysinstall to use a "more likely" geometry, it fixed the problem, see also FAQ 1.17. In case you weren't aware, "dangerously dedicated mode" is still available, albeit not recommended, using the (purposely) undocumented 'F' key. Rich. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 15:22:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9429B37B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:22:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 159DbG-00055s-01; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:22:26 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "'Richard Smith'" Cc: "'Freebsd-Stable@Freebsd. Org'" Subject: RE: Disk geometry oddity Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:22:07 +1200 Message-ID: <006501c0f1fb$c8d23ac0$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <20010610230647.A665@gaia.home.rdls.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: By allowing sysinstall to use a "more likely" geometry, it :: fixed the problem, :: see also FAQ 1.17. Silly question, perhaps, but if you change to the "more likely" geometry with the G key, would you lose data? :: In case you weren't aware, "dangerously dedicated mode" is :: still available, :: albeit not recommended, using the (purposely) undocumented 'F' key. No, I gather so, but it's an existing installation with two "dangerously dedicated" disks. Thanks! -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 16:30:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A9737B405 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5ANVjK29037 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:31:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:31:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Improvements for FreeBSD v4.3.1-Release? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Juha Saarinen wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Kenneth Mays wrote: > > > 2. Journalling FS (what's the best one out there?) > > XFS from SGI seems pretty good, and the guys could do with some support > and recognition -- http://oss.sgi.com I'll have to take a look. I just set up a "transmeta" device under Solaris to journal a UFS filesystem that I set up on a RAID5 device. We'll have to see how that goes. FWIW, Solaris 8 appears to have a journaling option for UFS itself. (Not trumpeting Solaris, just offering a different perspective from which someone might draw a useful idea.) -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 16:31:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69ADC37B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:31:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5ANX0K29050 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:33:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:33:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: error compiling XFree86-4.1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010608192953.C66058@2ainfo.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Filippo Moretti wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 05:18:43PM +0200, Filippo Moretti wrote: > > I actually was using -O2 after seeing a similar post will go to -O > > and if error persist will repost > > with -O the error is still there,identical so it must be something else > sincerely > Filippo The GNU pth port installs /usr/local/include/pthread.h, hiding /usr/include/pthread.h in the process. Uninstall this port if you have it installed, and try again. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 16:51:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA5737B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:51:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5B01k202445; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:01:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200106110001.f5B01k202445@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Pete French Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Very odd clock problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 09 Jun 2001 14:30:55 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:01:46 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > One of our FreeBSD machine is starting to loose time very badly. Odd as it > is running ntp from 5 different servers. Its also not a small loss, the > clock jumps backwards to the year 1933 ! Anybody got any ideas or seen > anything similar ? Er, the system clock is not capable of representing the year 1933 (in any valid fashion). This sounds like either memory corruption or an in-kernel sniper bug of some sort. You don't help the diagnosis any by saying "losing time" and then complaining about a "jump". The two are very different things, and you need to be much more specific about what is actually happening. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 16:56:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC9E37B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:56:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25349; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:56:37 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:56:37 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Dennis Reiter Cc: Donn Miller , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Improvements for FreeBSD v4.3.1-Release? Message-ID: <20010610165637.A25311@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <3B21D639.14436.461C2A4@localhost> <20010609154753.32846.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com> <20010609195708.A7667@reiters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010609195708.A7667@reiters.org>; from denny@reiters.org on Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 07:57:08PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 07:57:08PM -0500, Dennis Reiter wrote: > Quoting Donn Miller (hackr_d@yahoo.com): >> In general, I think journaling is better, but what happens when the >> journal itself gets corrupted? Another [+] for softupdates. Ok, I >> don't know what I'm talking about. > > What happens is you turn the ringer off on your phone and take a > long, long nap while it does an fsck. I've had this happen on a > 250gig filesystem. Patience, Grasshopper. The next phase of the softupdates project is an fsck that can run in userland background. So, you get the performance improvements of softupdates over a journaled filesystem, plus the near-instant reboot of a journaled filesystem. All for free! This is working in -current, I don't know if there are plans to back port to -stable or if it will just wait until 5.0 =becomes= -stable. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 17: 2:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dc-mx08.cluster1.charter.net (dc-mx08.cluster0.hsacorp.net [209.225.8.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD6137B408 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:02:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.157.193] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by dc-mx08.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.6) with SMTP id 8002355; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:08:38 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Dave Uhring To: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Improvements for FreeBSD v4.3.1-Release? Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:02:37 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061019023702.00853@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 10 June 2001 18:31, Chris BeHanna wrote: > On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Juha Saarinen wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Kenneth Mays wrote: > > > 2. Journalling FS (what's the best one out there?) > > > > XFS from SGI seems pretty good, and the guys could do with some support > > and recognition -- http://oss.sgi.com > > I'll have to take a look. > > I just set up a "transmeta" device under Solaris to journal a UFS > filesystem that I set up on a RAID5 device. We'll have to see how > that goes. > > FWIW, Solaris 8 appears to have a journaling option for UFS > itself. > > (Not trumpeting Solaris, just offering a different perspective > from which someone might draw a useful idea.) For a first-hand look at XFS, you can do a Linux install of RedHat-7.1 by beginning the install with a CD made from SGI's XFS iso available at ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/download/ I have one of these systems set up and the journalling doesn't to slow the system much at all. Also had a power failure and the system survived its "smoke test" without damage. Since XFS is GPL'd, inclusion with the FreeBSD kernel seems problematic, however. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 17: 7:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3105E37B407 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.1]) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 159FEr-0005Ag-00; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:07:25 +1200 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:07:25 +1200 (NZST) From: Juha Saarinen To: Dave Uhring Cc: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Improvements for FreeBSD v4.3.1-Release? In-Reply-To: <01061019023702.00853@dave.uhring.com> Message-ID: X-S: Always MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Dave Uhring wrote: > For a first-hand look at XFS, you can do a Linux install of RedHat-7.1 by > beginning the install with a CD made from SGI's XFS iso available at > > ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/download/ > > I have one of these systems set up and the journalling doesn't to slow the > system much at all. Also had a power failure and the system survived its > "smoke test" without damage. That's my experience too -- the f/s seems to survive plenty of abuse. Remember though that no f/s can rescue data that hasn't been written to the hard disk. Some people thought that they could pull the plug during a file save, and still have their data intact... doesn't quite work ;-) Also, it's worth moving up to the newer CVS versions of XFS plus tools -- plenty of fixes applied after 1.0 testing. > Since XFS is GPL'd, inclusion with the FreeBSD kernel seems problematic, > however. They might be open to changing the license... worth asking, perhaps. -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 17:16:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from messiah.megadeb.org (cpe.atm0-0-0-218131.arcnxx5.customer.tele.dk [62.242.79.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4898637B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:16:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chopra@runbox.com) Received: (from chopra@localhost) by messiah.megadeb.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5B0IQ178570 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:18:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from chopra) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:18:26 +0200 From: Munish Chopra To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Improvements for FreeBSD v4.3.1-Release? Message-ID: <20010611021826.A78552@messiah.megadeb.org> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B21D639.14436.461C2A4@localhost> <20010609154753.32846.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com> <20010609195708.A7667@reiters.org> <20010610165637.A25311@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010610165637.A25311@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 04:56:37PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 04:56:37PM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > So, you get the performance improvements of softupdates over a > journaled filesystem, plus the near-instant reboot of a journaled > filesystem. All for free! > > This is working in -current, I don't know if there are plans to back > port to -stable or if it will just wait until 5.0 =becomes= -stable. IIRC it's going to stay in -current, not much of a chance we'll se it in 4.4. I hear it works very well though. -- -Munish To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 17:22:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from messiah.megadeb.org (cpe.atm0-0-0-218131.arcnxx5.customer.tele.dk [62.242.79.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1A437B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:22:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chopra@runbox.com) Received: (from chopra@localhost) by messiah.megadeb.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5B0O4b78609 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:24:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from chopra) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:24:04 +0200 From: Munish Chopra To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Improvements for FreeBSD v4.3.1-Release? Message-ID: <20010611022404.B78552@messiah.megadeb.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-Stable References: <01061019023702.00853@dave.uhring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from juha@saarinen.org on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 12:07:25PM +1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 12:07:25PM +1200, Juha Saarinen wrote: > > Since XFS is GPL'd, inclusion with the FreeBSD kernel seems problematic, > > however. > > They might be open to changing the license... worth asking, perhaps. Highly doubt that. SGI is dumping IRIX for Linux, and pretty much putting it's cards down on it. Last time I checked they were doing quite a bit of Linux development besides the XFS stuff. I'm not sure how smart it would be for them to change license, or to focus on anything but Linux anyway (unless they're suddenly finding Linux too hard to get through to). There has been some talk of them ticking off linux-dev... -- -Munish To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 17:36:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dc-mx05.cluster1.charter.net (dc-mx05.cluster0.hsacorp.net [209.225.8.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF5F37B41F for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:36:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.157.193] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by dc-mx05.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.6) with SMTP id 9012454; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:42:36 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Dave Uhring To: Juha Saarinen Subject: Re: Improvements for FreeBSD v4.3.1-Release? Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:36:43 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061019364303.00853@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 10 June 2001 19:07, Juha Saarinen wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Dave Uhring wrote: > > For a first-hand look at XFS, you can do a Linux install of RedHat-7.1 > > by beginning the install with a CD made from SGI's XFS iso available at > > > > ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/download/ > > > > I have one of these systems set up and the journalling doesn't to slow > > the system much at all. Also had a power failure and the system > > survived its "smoke test" without damage. > > That's my experience too -- the f/s seems to survive plenty of abuse. > Remember though that no f/s can rescue data that hasn't been written to > the hard disk. Some people thought that they could pull the plug during a > file save, and still have their data intact... doesn't quite work ;-) > > Also, it's worth moving up to the newer CVS versions of XFS plus tools -- > plenty of fixes applied after 1.0 testing. > > > Since XFS is GPL'd, inclusion with the FreeBSD kernel seems > > problematic, however. > > They might be open to changing the license... worth asking, perhaps. I tried today to cvsup from their server. Seemed to be dead. As Munish pointed out, they seem to be cutting back substantially on their Linux initiative. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 17:44:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30A837B421 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:44:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.1]) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 159FoX-0005Br-00; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:44:17 +1200 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:44:17 +1200 (NZST) From: Juha Saarinen To: Dave Uhring Cc: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Improvements for FreeBSD v4.3.1-Release? In-Reply-To: <01061019364303.00853@dave.uhring.com> Message-ID: X-S: Always MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Dave Uhring wrote: > I tried today to cvsup from their server. Seemed to be dead. As Munish > pointed out, they seem to be cutting back substantially on their Linux > initiative. They've changed the cvs server (cvsup doesn't work through the firewall yet, apparently), so try just plain cvs. Yeah, there's been cutbacks... shame about that. -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 18: 4:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD0337B409 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:04:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id SAA16855; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:03:55 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda16853; Sun Jun 10 18:03:37 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.4/8.9.1) id f5B13QV02107; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UNKNOWN(10.1.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdwM2104; Sun Jun 10 18:03:11 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.4/8.9.1) id f5B11k120202; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106110101.f5B11k120202@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdP20189; Sun Jun 10 18:00:53 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Dave Uhring Cc: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Improvements for FreeBSD v4.3.1-Release? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:02:37 CDT." <01061019023702.00853@dave.uhring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:00:53 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <01061019023702.00853@dave.uhring.com>, Dave Uhring writes: > On Sunday 10 June 2001 18:31, Chris BeHanna wrote: > > On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Juha Saarinen wrote: > > > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Kenneth Mays wrote: > > > > 2. Journalling FS (what's the best one out there?) > > > > > > XFS from SGI seems pretty good, and the guys could do with some support > > > and recognition -- http://oss.sgi.com > > > > I'll have to take a look. > > > > I just set up a "transmeta" device under Solaris to journal a UFS > > filesystem that I set up on a RAID5 device. We'll have to see how > > that goes. > > > > FWIW, Solaris 8 appears to have a journaling option for UFS > > itself. > > > > (Not trumpeting Solaris, just offering a different perspective > > from which someone might draw a useful idea.) > > For a first-hand look at XFS, you can do a Linux install of RedHat-7.1 by > beginning the install with a CD made from SGI's XFS iso available at > > ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/download/ > > I have one of these systems set up and the journalling doesn't to slow the > system much at all. Also had a power failure and the system survived its > "smoke test" without damage. > > Since XFS is GPL'd, inclusion with the FreeBSD kernel seems problematic, > however. Not necessarily. It could go into src/sys/contrib. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 18: 6:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30E2E37B403 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:06:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 15266 invoked by uid 100); 11 Jun 2001 01:06:27 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15140.6547.144226.514533@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:06:27 -0500 To: Andrew Gordon Cc: Subject: Re: USB Smartmedia readers In-Reply-To: <20010610221213.H66911-100000@server.arg.sj.co.uk> References: <15120.13484.96225.821341@guru.mired.org> <20010610221213.H66911-100000@server.arg.sj.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew Gordon types: > Following up on previous correspondance, I can confirm that both models of > the FujiFilm USB SmartMedia readers (the obsolete SM-R1 and the Thank you for the detailed information. Yahoo shopping now lists a number of places that carry this device, starting around US$90, and I've got one on order. > As an aside, I also tried a very cheap smartmedia reader: > > ugen0: SCM Microsystems Inc. SCM eUSB SmartMedia , rev 1.00/1.00, addr 5 I can report the same about the SanDisk SDDR-09-01, another cheap smartmedia reader. Thanx, http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 18:13:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bowhill.yi.org (bowhill.yi.org [216.122.158.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6C537B40B for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:13:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kosmos@bowhill.yi.org) Received: from localhost (kosmos@localhost) by bowhill.yi.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5AELOo83494 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:21:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kosmos@bowhill.yi.org) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:21:24 -0700 (PDT) From: kosmos To: Subject: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 Message-ID: <20010610071736.O83489-100000@bowhill.yi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Make world is apprantly croaking on ipmon. This is on a 4.1-RELEASE installation, with source CVSupped from today's changes. I searched the mailing lists, but nothing on ipfilter. Is there a known workaround for this? Thanks, --Allan kosmos@bowhill.yi.org ===> sbin/ipmon cc -O -pipe -DIPL_NAME=\"/dev/ipl\" -I- -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../sys -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: `TH_ECN' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: (near initialization for `tcpfl[6].value') /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c: In function `print_natlog': /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: `NL_FLUSH' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sbin/ipmon. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sbin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ----------------------------------------- Allan Bowhill kosmos@bowhill.yi.org ----------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 18:18:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D7737B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:18:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA03843; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:18:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:18:09 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: kosmos Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 Message-ID: <20010610211809.A3827@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20010610071736.O83489-100000@bowhill.yi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010610071736.O83489-100000@bowhill.yi.org>; from kosmos@bowhill.yi.org on Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:21:24AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Me too I presume this is related to the move of ipfilter from /sys to /contrib ? On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:21:24AM -0700, kosmos wrote: > Make world is apprantly croaking on ipmon. This is on a 4.1-RELEASE > installation, with source CVSupped from today's changes. > > I searched the mailing lists, but nothing on ipfilter. Is there a > known workaround for this? > > > Thanks, > > --Allan > kosmos@bowhill.yi.org > > ===> sbin/ipmon > cc -O -pipe -DIPL_NAME=\"/dev/ipl\" -I- -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../sys > -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: `TH_ECN' undeclared > here (not in a function) > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: initializer element > is not constant > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: (near > initialization for `tcpfl[6].value') > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c: In function > `print_natlog': > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: `NL_FLUSH' > undeclared (first use in this function) > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: (Each undeclared > identifier is reported only once > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: for each function > it appears in.) > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sbin/ipmon. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sbin. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > Allan Bowhill > kosmos@bowhill.yi.org > > ----------------------------------------- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 18:28:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A68F37B407 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:28:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AEA967701AE; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:28:09 -0700 Message-ID: <3B241EA9.27E515AA@urx.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:28:09 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Lucas Cc: kosmos , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 References: <20010610071736.O83489-100000@bowhill.yi.org> <20010610211809.A3827@blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Lucas wrote: > > Me too > > I presume this is related to the move of ipfilter from /sys to /contrib ? I cvsup'ed about 7 hours ago and successfully built 4.3-stable. I didn't have any problems. The changes were made a long time before that. Someone said they had the same problem but it was due to bad .depend's. I kind of wonder if a make cleandir or make cleandepend would help. Kent > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:21:24AM -0700, kosmos wrote: > > Make world is apprantly croaking on ipmon. This is on a 4.1-RELEASE > > installation, with source CVSupped from today's changes. > > > > I searched the mailing lists, but nothing on ipfilter. Is there a > > known workaround for this? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > --Allan > > kosmos@bowhill.yi.org > > > > ===> sbin/ipmon > > cc -O -pipe -DIPL_NAME=\"/dev/ipl\" -I- -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../sys > > -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: `TH_ECN' undeclared > > here (not in a function) > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: initializer element > > is not constant > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: (near > > initialization for `tcpfl[6].value') > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c: In function > > `print_natlog': > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: `NL_FLUSH' > > undeclared (first use in this function) > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: (Each undeclared > > identifier is reported only once > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: for each function > > it appears in.) > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sbin/ipmon. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sbin. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Allan Bowhill > > kosmos@bowhill.yi.org > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Michael Lucas > mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 19:11:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bowhill.yi.org (bowhill.yi.org [216.122.158.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66F937B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:11:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kosmos@bowhill.yi.org) Received: from localhost (kosmos@localhost) by bowhill.yi.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5AFJaX83649; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:19:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kosmos@bowhill.yi.org) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:19:35 -0700 (PDT) From: kosmos To: Kent Stewart Cc: Michael Lucas , Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <3B241EA9.27E515AA@urx.com> Message-ID: <20010610073908.R83497-100000@bowhill.yi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Kent Stewart wrote: I nuked /usr/obj and did 'make clean' in /usr/src before building. I don't know much about C, but it looks like the macro TH_ECN in ipmon.c is defined in a header /usr/include/netinet/ip_compat.h. But the header declaration doesn't include it within <> brackets, so it looks in the current working directory for netinet/ip_compat.h, which doesn't exist. Does that sound right? --Allan > > Michael Lucas wrote: > > > > Me too > > > > I presume this is related to the move of ipfilter from /sys to /contrib ? > > I cvsup'ed about 7 hours ago and successfully built 4.3-stable. I didn't > have any problems. The changes were made a long time before that. Someone > said they had the same problem but it was due to bad .depend's. I kind of > wonder if a make cleandir or make cleandepend would help. > > Kent > > > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:21:24AM -0700, kosmos wrote: > > > Make world is apprantly croaking on ipmon. This is on a 4.1-RELEASE > > > installation, with source CVSupped from today's changes. > > > > > > I searched the mailing lists, but nothing on ipfilter. Is there a > > > known workaround for this? > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > --Allan > > > kosmos@bowhill.yi.org > > > > > > ===> sbin/ipmon > > > cc -O -pipe -DIPL_NAME=\"/dev/ipl\" -I- -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../sys > > > -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter > > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: `TH_ECN' undeclared > > > here (not in a function) > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: initializer element > > > is not constant > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: (near > > > initialization for `tcpfl[6].value') > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c: In function > > > `print_natlog': > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: `NL_FLUSH' > > > undeclared (first use in this function) > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: (Each undeclared > > > identifier is reported only once > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: for each function > > > it appears in.) > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sbin/ipmon. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sbin. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Allan Bowhill > > > kosmos@bowhill.yi.org > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Michael Lucas > > mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org > > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > > Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > ----------------------------------------- Allan Bowhill kosmos@bowhill.yi.org ----------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 19:43:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp [202.247.6.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F324B37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mihara@prd.fc.nec.co.jp) Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.193]) by TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.3/3.7W01041220) with ESMTP id f5B2gw002097; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:42:59 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailsv4.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.190]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.3/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id f5B2gn823765; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:42:52 +0900 (JST) Received: from athena.prd.fc.nec.co.jp (athena.prd.fc.nec.co.jp [10.32.193.1]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.3/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id f5B2gl308581; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:42:48 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.prd.fc.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by athena.prd.fc.nec.co.jp (8.11.2/3.7W-00052414) with ESMTP id f5B2gkl22139; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:42:46 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:42:46 +0900 Message-ID: <8666e3d9eh.wl@localhost.prd.fc.nec.co.jp> From: Osamu MIHARA To: kstewart@urx.com Cc: Michael Lucas , kosmos , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <3B241EA9.27E515AA@urx.com> References: <20010610071736.O83489-100000@bowhill.yi.org> <20010610211809.A3827@blackhelicopters.org> <3B241EA9.27E515AA@urx.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) WEMI/1.13.7 (Shimada) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386-unknown-freebsd4.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by WEMI 1.13.7 - "Shimada") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:28:09 -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > I cvsup'ed about 7 hours ago and successfully built 4.3-stable. I didn't > have any problems. The changes were made a long time before that. Someone > said they had the same problem but it was due to bad .depend's. I kind of > wonder if a make cleandir or make cleandepend would help. Even with the latest source tree (I cvsup'ed 1 hours ago), I got the same erorr. It seems to depend on the system you are building. I suspect that the compilation of ipmon.c refers include files such as ip_nat.h and ip_compat.h under /usr/include/netinet, not under /usr/src/compat/ipfilder. -- Osamu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 20: 2:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE2337B40A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:02:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A49D5B01C4; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:01:49 -0700 Message-ID: <3B24349D.78D78FBE@urx.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:01:49 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kosmos Cc: Michael Lucas , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 References: <20010610073908.R83497-100000@bowhill.yi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kosmos wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Kent Stewart wrote: > > I nuked /usr/obj and did 'make clean' in /usr/src before building. > > I don't know much about C, but it looks like the macro TH_ECN in > ipmon.c is defined in a header /usr/include/netinet/ip_compat.h. > But the header declaration doesn't include it within <> brackets, > so it looks in the current working directory for netinet/ip_compat.h, > which doesn't exist. > > Does that sound right? One thing is that your date is totally wacko. Your email is showing up as being created at 8am on 10 June. Set your time right before you do anything else. Kent > > --Allan > > > > > Michael Lucas wrote: > > > > > > Me too > > > > > > I presume this is related to the move of ipfilter from /sys to /contrib ? > > > > I cvsup'ed about 7 hours ago and successfully built 4.3-stable. I didn't > > have any problems. The changes were made a long time before that. Someone > > said they had the same problem but it was due to bad .depend's. I kind of > > wonder if a make cleandir or make cleandepend would help. > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:21:24AM -0700, kosmos wrote: > > > > Make world is apprantly croaking on ipmon. This is on a 4.1-RELEASE > > > > installation, with source CVSupped from today's changes. > > > > > > > > I searched the mailing lists, but nothing on ipfilter. Is there a > > > > known workaround for this? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > --Allan > > > > kosmos@bowhill.yi.org > > > > > > > > ===> sbin/ipmon > > > > cc -O -pipe -DIPL_NAME=\"/dev/ipl\" -I- -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../sys > > > > -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter > > > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: `TH_ECN' undeclared > > > > here (not in a function) > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: initializer element > > > > is not constant > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: (near > > > > initialization for `tcpfl[6].value') > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c: In function > > > > `print_natlog': > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: `NL_FLUSH' > > > > undeclared (first use in this function) > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: (Each undeclared > > > > identifier is reported only once > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: for each function > > > > it appears in.) > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sbin/ipmon. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sbin. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > Allan Bowhill > > > > kosmos@bowhill.yi.org > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > > Michael Lucas > > > mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org > > > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > > > Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > > > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html > > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > ----------------------------------------- > Allan Bowhill > kosmos@bowhill.yi.org > > ----------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 20: 5:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28B237B40B for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:05:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A3A4548021E; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:57:40 -0700 Message-ID: <3B2433A3.48822E13@urx.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:57:39 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Osamu MIHARA Cc: Michael Lucas , kosmos , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 References: <20010610071736.O83489-100000@bowhill.yi.org> <20010610211809.A3827@blackhelicopters.org> <3B241EA9.27E515AA@urx.com> <8666e3d9eh.wl@localhost.prd.fc.nec.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Osamu MIHARA wrote: > > At Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:28:09 -0700, > Kent Stewart wrote: > > I cvsup'ed about 7 hours ago and successfully built 4.3-stable. I didn't > > have any problems. The changes were made a long time before that. Someone > > said they had the same problem but it was due to bad .depend's. I kind of > > wonder if a make cleandir or make cleandepend would help. > > Even with the latest source tree (I cvsup'ed 1 hours ago), I got the > same erorr. It seems to depend on the system you are building. > > I suspect that the compilation of ipmon.c refers include files such as > ip_nat.h and ip_compat.h under /usr/include/netinet, not under > /usr/src/compat/ipfilder. The files like ip_nat.h and other ip_??.h files were created during my buildworld. The cvsup was at 11:37. -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1636 Jun 10 12:25 ip_auth.h -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 25518 Jun 10 12:25 ip_compat.h -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 8546 Jun 10 12:25 ip_nat.h -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 4168 Jun 10 12:25 ip_proxy.h -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 5163 Jun 10 12:25 ip_state.h and etc. Kent > > -- Osamu -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 20: 6:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from extreme-ware.com (extreme-ware.com [198.107.233.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6167537B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:06:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from franco@extreme-ware.com) Received: (qmail 23582 invoked by uid 1011); 11 Jun 2001 03:06:29 -0000 Received: from gasperino.org (HELO powerhouse) ([216.190.43.106]) (envelope-sender ) by extreme-ware.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Jun 2001 03:06:29 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Franco Gasperino" To: Subject: 4.x stable & large NFS services Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:13:32 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello list, I'm in the process of creating a large NFS system for exporting mail spools (Maildir) to several frontend mail servers, and wanted to know about potential issues to look for. The system will be a dual p3 with a lot of ram and hardware raid, and i'm testing fbsd 4.3 vs linux 2.4 for NFS sharing. I'm concerned about SMP (not speed, but stability) on fbsd, and am looking for honest advice on which use. I will be running my own tests on each, but look forward to input from the list. Franco Gasperino Extreme Software http://www.extreme-ware.com/ (509) 443-0733 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 20:21:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0AD37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:21:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id UAA17139; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:21:18 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda17137; Sun Jun 10 20:21:10 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.4/8.9.1) id f5B3L6h02591; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UNKNOWN(10.1.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdeN2589; Sun Jun 10 20:20:50 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.4/8.9.1) id f5B3KnU20896; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106110320.f5B3KnU20896@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdd20881; Sun Jun 10 20:20:21 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: franco@extreme-ware.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.x stable & large NFS services In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:13:32 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:20:21 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , "Franco Gasp erino" writes: > > Hello list, > > I'm in the process of creating a large NFS system for exporting mail > spools (Maildir) to several frontend mail servers, and wanted to know about > potential issues to look for. The system will be a dual p3 with a lot of ram > and hardware raid, and i'm testing fbsd 4.3 vs linux 2.4 for NFS sharing. > I'm concerned about SMP (not speed, but stability) on fbsd, and am looking > for honest advice on which use. I will be running my own tests on each, but > look forward to input from the list. Linux mounts its filesystems async so to keep the comparison fair you will either have to mount your NFS exported filesystems async or use softupdates. Softupdates will give you the reliability of Synchronous Metadata (SMD) writes with almost the performance (3% loss) as async mounts. Linux breaks the NFS protocol by notifying the client that writes have completed even though they have not, i.e. the write has been completed to the buffer cache but not the disk. This can greatly improve performance. To perform the same asynchronous NFS writes on FreeBSD you will need to set sysctl MIB vfs.nfs.async to 1. Additionally, levelling the playing field by using the same hardware configurations on both machines and networks should give you data you can analyse. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 21:30:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.kscable.com (fe5.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E80E37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:30:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rklosh@rkl.org) Received: from localhost ([65.26.173.69]) by mail5.kscable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:30:36 -0500 To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Oracle 8 for Linux on FreeBSD?? X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on XEmacs 21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010610233028C.rklosh@rkl.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:30:28 -0500 From: Ryan K.Losh X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 55 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello: My appologies if this is the wrong list for this... I've spent some time the past few days trying to get Oracle running on FreeBSD, and I keep getting "out of memory" errors. The box has 512M of memory in it, and has done 3 days of build-world's as a "burn-in" for the ram. I don't think it is a *LACK* of memory issue...Anyway, here's a script file which shows the "symptoms." I guess I should mention that I "cheated" since I couldn't get the installer to install under FreeBSD, so I grabbed a spare disk, loaded RH 6.2, loaded oracle to /oracle, "dumped" /oracle from a Linux promt to tape & restored /oracle on the FreeBSD side. Then I copied the /etc/ora* files and the /usr/local/bin/* files oracle had installed. I made sure those files exist both in /etc /usr/local/bin and in /usr/compat/linux/etc /usr/compat/linux/usr/local/bin. I've tried to get Oracle going from the FreeBSD side with me as the only logged-in user in a vc without X running anywhere. Doesn't work from a gnome-term inside a gnome login... I've also followed (to the letter) the instructions in the handbook for getting Linux version of Oracle running to no avail... Any ideas?? -----------------------8<-CUT-HERE---->8--------------------------- Script started on Sun Jun 10 23:16:59 2001 bash-2.05$ uname -a FreeBSD foo.foo.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #7: Fri Jun 8 20:30:35 CDT 2001 root@foo.foo.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/FOO i386 bash-2.05$ su - oracle Password: [oracle@foo oracle]$ sqlplus SQL*Plus: Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production on Sun Jun 10 23:17:08 2001 (c) Copyright 1999 Oracle Corporation. All rights reserved. Enter user-name: sys/oracle as sysdba Connected to an idle instance. SQL> STARTUP ORA-27102: out of memory Linux Error: 12: Cannot allocate memory SQL> ^DDisconnected [oracle@foo oracle]$ logout bash-2.05$ exit Script done on Sun Jun 10 23:17:25 2001 -----------------------8<-CUT-HERE---->8--------------------------- Thanks for help Ryan rklosh@rkl.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 21:33:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300EE37B408 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:33:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (user-2inisqs.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.115.92]) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA30123; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:33:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 54F4613108; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:33:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding To: franco@extreme-ware.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Subject: Re: 4.x stable & large NFS services References: Message-Id: <20010611043324.54F4613108@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We run a number of servers, including our development server with multiple users, on SMP and it's. totally. bulletproof. as long as you don't put the SMP kernel on a single process board. - Mike H. Reply-To: From: "Franco Gasperino" Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:13:32 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello list, I'm in the process of creating a large NFS system for exporting mail spools (Maildir) to several frontend mail servers, and wanted to know about potential issues to look for. The system will be a dual p3 with a lot of ram and hardware raid, and i'm testing fbsd 4.3 vs linux 2.4 for NFS sharing. I'm concerned about SMP (not speed, but stability) on fbsd, and am looking for honest advice on which use. I will be running my own tests on each, but look forward to input from the list. Franco Gasperino Extreme Software http://www.extreme-ware.com/ (509) 443-0733 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 21:42:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.hitachi-to.co.jp (regulus.hitachi-to.co.jp [210.130.175.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B0337B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:42:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org) To: rklosh@rkl.org Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Oracle 8 for Linux on FreeBSD?? In-Reply-To: <20010610233028C.rklosh@rkl.org> References: <20010610233028C.rklosh@rkl.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010611133930X.iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:39:30 +0900 From: Mitsuru IWASAKI Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, > I've spent some time the past few days trying to get Oracle running on > FreeBSD, and I keep getting "out of memory" errors. The box has 512M > of memory in it, and has done 3 days of build-world's as a "burn-in" > for the ram. I don't think it is a *LACK* of memory issue...Anyway, > here's a script file which shows the "symptoms." Lack of shared memory? Please check your kernel config file out such as SHMMAXPGS, SHMMNI and SHMSEG. Also Semaphore related options. Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 23:11: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp [202.247.6.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3985E37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:11:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mihara@prd.fc.nec.co.jp) Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.195]) by TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.3/3.7W01041220) with ESMTP id f5B6Au012103; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:10:57 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailsv.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.190]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.3/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id f5B6AqN25340; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:10:52 +0900 (JST) Received: from athena.prd.fc.nec.co.jp (athena.prd.fc.nec.co.jp [10.32.193.1]) by mailsv.nec.co.jp (8.11.3/3.7W-MAILSV-NEC) with ESMTP id f5B6AnY06961; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:10:51 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.prd.fc.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by athena.prd.fc.nec.co.jp (8.11.2/3.7W-00052414) with ESMTP id f5B6Aml34634; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:10:48 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:10:48 +0900 Message-ID: <861yorczrr.wl@localhost.prd.fc.nec.co.jp> From: Osamu MIHARA To: kstewart@urx.com Cc: Osamu MIHARA , Michael Lucas , kosmos , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <3B2433A3.48822E13@urx.com> References: <20010610071736.O83489-100000@bowhill.yi.org> <20010610211809.A3827@blackhelicopters.org> <3B241EA9.27E515AA@urx.com> <8666e3d9eh.wl@localhost.prd.fc.nec.co.jp> <3B2433A3.48822E13@urx.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) WEMI/1.13.7 (Shimada) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386-unknown-freebsd4.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by WEMI 1.13.7 - "Shimada") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here is my guessing... The compilation option for ipmon.c (from make buildworld log): cc -O -pipe -DIPL_NAME=\"/dev/ipl\" -I- -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../sys -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c This command was generated from /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/Makefile (commited on 2001/4/25) which expects that headers ip_nat.h and ip_compat.h (and IPfilter related headers) in /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/netinet, which is a symbolic link to /usr/src/sys/netinet. Hoewever, the header files are removed on Jun 7 (4 days ago) at the moment IPFilter is moved into contrib. As a result, it becomes to use headers in standard include path /usr/include/netinet. Some systems recently upgraded have updated headers with TH_ECN and NL_FLUSH macros and does not causes compilation error. But systems with old headers in /usr/include/netinet causes the error. So, workaround may be: Copy following files from usr/src/contrib/ipfilter into /usr/include/netinet ip_auth.h, ip_compat.h, ip_fil.h, ip_flag.h, ip_nat.h, ip_proxy.h, ip_state.h, ipl.h or... Make directory /usr/src/contrib/ipfilter/netinet and copy above files into it. This enables the compileation option '-I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter' Through measures??? I'm not sure... -- Osamu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 10 23:20:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx.northrock.bm (mx.northrock.bm [209.27.140.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E662737B401 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:20:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hsimons@iss.bm) Received: from chyna (216.249.41.176.ppp.northrock.bm [216.249.41.176]) by mx.northrock.bm (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5B6Knj03384 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:20:49 -0300 (ADT) Received: from 127.0.0.1 by chyna ([127.0.0.1] running VPOP3) with SMTP for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:21:47 -0300 From: "Howard Simons" To: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:21:47 -0300 Message-ID: <000001c0f23e$caff0a60$0100a8c0@iss.bm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.4.0e - Registered Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks, Howard Systems Engineer/President Information Systems Services Limited Tel (441) 236-1467 mailto:hsimons@iss.bm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 0: 6:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bowhill.yi.org (bowhill.yi.org [216.122.158.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E3F37B403 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:06:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kosmos@bowhill.yi.org) Received: from localhost (kosmos@localhost) by bowhill.yi.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5B75nd19589; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:05:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kosmos@bowhill.yi.org) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:05:48 -0700 (PDT) From: kosmos To: Osamu MIHARA Cc: , Michael Lucas , Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <861yorczrr.wl@localhost.prd.fc.nec.co.jp> Message-ID: <20010610233139.M83497-100000@bowhill.yi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, that sounds like a good explanation. I followed a similar line, but still have problems. Out of all the ip_compat.h files that exist on a 4.1-RELEASE box, the only file to contain the macro TH_ECN is: /usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_compat.h So I created a symlink from: /usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet into: /usr/src/sontrib/ipfilter and everything appeared to compile just fine. However, during installation, this error occurs: cd /usr/src/include/../sys; install -C -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 dev/usb/*.h /usr/include/dev/usbcd /usr/src/include/../sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet; install -C -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 *.h /usr/include/netinet install: *.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Maybe I should create the directory and copy the files in there instead. --Allan On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Osamu MIHARA wrote: > Here is my guessing... > > The compilation option for ipmon.c (from make buildworld log): > > cc -O -pipe -DIPL_NAME=\"/dev/ipl\" -I- -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../sys -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c > > This command was generated from /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/Makefile (commited > on 2001/4/25) which expects that headers ip_nat.h and ip_compat.h (and > IPfilter related headers) in > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/netinet, which is a symbolic link to > /usr/src/sys/netinet. > > Hoewever, the header files are removed on Jun 7 (4 days ago) at the > moment IPFilter is moved into contrib. As a result, it becomes to use > headers in standard include path /usr/include/netinet. Some systems > recently upgraded have updated headers with TH_ECN and NL_FLUSH macros > and does not causes compilation error. But systems with old headers in > /usr/include/netinet causes the error. > > So, workaround may be: > Copy following files from usr/src/contrib/ipfilter into /usr/include/netinet > ip_auth.h, ip_compat.h, ip_fil.h, ip_flag.h, ip_nat.h, ip_proxy.h, > ip_state.h, ipl.h > > or... > > Make directory /usr/src/contrib/ipfilter/netinet and copy above files > into it. This enables the compileation option > '-I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter' > > Through measures??? I'm not sure... > > -- Osamu > ----------------------------------------- Allan Bowhill kosmos@bowhill.yi.org ----------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 0:46:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corb.mc.mpls.visi.com (corb.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711A637B403 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dunc@tiny.net) Received: from kevet (dunc.dsl.visi.com [209.98.143.103]) by corb.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C720B8118; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:46:15 -0500 (CDT) From: dunc@tiny.net To: kstewart@urx.com Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:47:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B243125.31963.1FD309BA@localhost> In-reply-to: <3B241EA9.27E515AA@urx.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just installed 4.1 from cdrom on a freshly formatted disk, cvsup'd stable, did a buildworld, and got this error. So unless wacky state information is being installed with the src distribution, that's not the answer. My guess is that people who have been building regularly have success because the updated headers were coped into the system include directory on a successful build before the directory structure was changed. But those of us trying to use the new tree cold are getting the old includes because the new ones aren't being found first any more. On 10 Jun 2001, at 18:28, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Michael Lucas wrote: > > > > Me too > > > > I presume this is related to the move of ipfilter from /sys to /contrib ? > > I cvsup'ed about 7 hours ago and successfully built 4.3-stable. I didn't > have any problems. The changes were made a long time before that. Someone > said they had the same problem but it was due to bad .depend's. I kind of > wonder if a make cleandir or make cleandepend would help. > > Kent > > > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:21:24AM -0700, kosmos wrote: > > > Make world is apprantly croaking on ipmon. This is on a 4.1-RELEASE > > > installation, with source CVSupped from today's changes. > > > > > > I searched the mailing lists, but nothing on ipfilter. Is there a > > > known workaround for this? > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > --Allan > > > kosmos@bowhill.yi.org > > > > > > ===> sbin/ipmon > > > cc -O -pipe -DIPL_NAME=\"/dev/ipl\" -I- -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../sys > > > -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter > > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: `TH_ECN' undeclared > > > here (not in a function) > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: initializer element > > > is not constant > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: (near > > > initialization for `tcpfl[6].value') > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c: In function > > > `print_natlog': > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: `NL_FLUSH' > > > undeclared (first use in this function) > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: (Each undeclared > > > identifier is reported only once > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: for each function > > > it appears in.) > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sbin/ipmon. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sbin. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Allan Bowhill > > > kosmos@bowhill.yi.org > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Michael Lucas > > mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org > > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > > Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > --dunc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 0:47:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp [202.32.8.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A9437B40A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:47:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mihara@prd.fc.nec.co.jp) Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.193]) by TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.3/3.7W01041220) with ESMTP id f5B7l1Q10718; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:47:01 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailsv.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.190]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.3/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id f5B7kx812554; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:46:59 +0900 (JST) Received: from athena.prd.fc.nec.co.jp (athena.prd.fc.nec.co.jp [10.32.193.1]) by mailsv.nec.co.jp (8.11.3/3.7W-MAILSV-NEC) with ESMTP id f5B7kvY26875; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:46:58 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.prd.fc.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by athena.prd.fc.nec.co.jp (8.11.2/3.7W-00052414) with ESMTP id f5B7kul40513; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:46:57 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:46:56 +0900 Message-ID: <86y9qzbgr3.wl@localhost.prd.fc.nec.co.jp> From: Osamu MIHARA To: kosmos Cc: Osamu MIHARA , , Michael Lucas , Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <20010610233139.M83497-100000@bowhill.yi.org> References: <861yorczrr.wl@localhost.prd.fc.nec.co.jp> <20010610233139.M83497-100000@bowhill.yi.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) WEMI/1.13.7 (Shimada) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386-unknown-freebsd4.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by WEMI 1.13.7 - "Shimada") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:05:48 -0700 (PDT), kosmos wrote: > Yes, that sounds like a good explanation. I followed a similar line, but > still have problems. : > Maybe I should create the directory and copy the files in there instead. I have just upgraded my 4.2-stable box to 4.3-stable. I have copied the headers into /usr/include/netinet just as I wrote in the previous mail. Everything works fine. Try it. -- Osamu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 2:14:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.tue.nl (mailhost.tue.nl [131.155.2.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B7B37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:14:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from K.R.A.M.Schreel@tue.nl) Received: from wop5.wop.wtb.tue.nl (wop5.wop.wtb.tue.nl [131.155.56.55]) by mailhost.tue.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5B9EXp07388 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:14:33 +0200 (MDT) Received: from tue.nl (wop24.wop.wtb.tue.nl [131.155.56.116]) by wop5.wop.wtb.tue.nl (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5B9EWa06406 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:14:32 +0200 (MDT) Message-ID: <3B248BCA.9D77138A@tue.nl> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:13:46 +0200 From: Koen Schreel Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with com ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since my last upgrade (from 4.2-STABLE to 4.3-STABLE) I have some strange behavior of the cuua devices. In order for jpilot to use them I change their permissions to 666. But as soon as jpilot actually tries to use them, they magically convert back to 600, and no connection with my Palm is established. Has anyone an explanation/solution? Koen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 2:47: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0921937B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:46:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A38A83B01BA; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:46:50 -0700 Message-ID: <3B24938A.F6ACC48D@urx.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:46:50 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dunc@tiny.net Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 References: <3B243125.31963.1FD309BA@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG dunc@tiny.net wrote: > > I just installed 4.1 from cdrom on a freshly formatted disk, cvsup'd > stable, did a buildworld, and got this error. So unless wacky state > information is being installed with the src distribution, that's not the > answer. My guess is that people who have been building regularly > have success because the updated headers were coped into the > system include directory on a successful build before the directory > structure was changed. But those of us trying to use the new tree > cold are getting the old includes because the new ones aren't being > found first any more. That really describes that system. It is rebuilt regularly. The old kernel was dated 28 May 2001. The TH_ECN changes were added about 3 weeks ago. I would have them in my /usr/include/netinet. Osamu's solution sounds like it will update a system to what I have. The header files that are in /usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet were added to /usr/include/netinet Kent > > On 10 Jun 2001, at 18:28, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > > > Michael Lucas wrote: > > > > > > Me too > > > > > > I presume this is related to the move of ipfilter from /sys to /contrib ? > > > > I cvsup'ed about 7 hours ago and successfully built 4.3-stable. I didn't > > have any problems. The changes were made a long time before that. Someone > > said they had the same problem but it was due to bad .depend's. I kind of > > wonder if a make cleandir or make cleandepend would help. > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:21:24AM -0700, kosmos wrote: > > > > Make world is apprantly croaking on ipmon. This is on a 4.1-RELEASE > > > > installation, with source CVSupped from today's changes. > > > > > > > > I searched the mailing lists, but nothing on ipfilter. Is there a > > > > known workaround for this? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > --Allan > > > > kosmos@bowhill.yi.org > > > > > > > > ===> sbin/ipmon > > > > cc -O -pipe -DIPL_NAME=\"/dev/ipl\" -I- -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../sys > > > > -I/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter > > > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: `TH_ECN' undeclared > > > > here (not in a function) > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: initializer element > > > > is not constant > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: (near > > > > initialization for `tcpfl[6].value') > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c: In function > > > > `print_natlog': > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: `NL_FLUSH' > > > > undeclared (first use in this function) > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: (Each undeclared > > > > identifier is reported only once > > > > /usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:408: for each function > > > > it appears in.) > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sbin/ipmon. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sbin. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > Allan Bowhill > > > > kosmos@bowhill.yi.org > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > > Michael Lucas > > > mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org > > > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > > > Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > > > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html > > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > --dunc > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 2:48: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dilbert.fcg.co.uk (dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk [194.203.69.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66FA37B401; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:47:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfrench@firstcallgroup.co.uk) Received: from pfrench by dilbert.fcg.co.uk with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 159OIc-000Pd8-00; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:47:54 +0100 To: msmith@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very odd clock problem Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200106110001.f5B01k202445@mass.dis.org> Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:47:54 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Er, the system clock is not capable of representing the year 1933 (in any > valid fashion). Well it surpised me too ! Can the system clock not take negative values like time_t then ? (whatever type time_t happens to be this week :-) ) I was assuming it was a signed 32 bit number and was getting set to something like 0xBB000000 or thereabouts. > This sounds like either memory corruption or an in-kernel sniper bug of > some sort. You don't help the diagnosis any by saying "losing time" and > then complaining about a "jump". The two are very different things, and > you need to be much more specific about what is actually happening. Fair comment. What happens specificly is this: I get a user (and its always the same user) who complains that the dates on his outgoing emails are being timestamped in 1933. I login, type 'date' and sure enough it says it is a date in 1933. I then reset the date. There is nothing in the log files to indicate what has happened - other than the date on other messages jumping back to sometime in May (the year isnt logged in /var/log/messages I assume, but the month change is very obvious and I am assuming this co-incides with the year date change). We were running ntpd, and stopped in case it was a corrupt ntp server somewhere. That didnt help. We have also changed ntp servers to a different set of machines. Once again to no effect. Could this be a clock battery problem at all ? I wouldnt have thought the battery was used with the machine powered up, but it is the only thing I can think of off the top of my head. It happened again this morning, there is no pattern to when the jumps occur that I can see. Heres the output of dmesg to sow you what harwarde the machine is running on. Anything else I can do to provide more info ? Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Thu May 31 11:28:05 BST 2001 pete@toybox.twisted.org.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TOYBOX Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 267274587 Hz CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (267.27-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x58c Stepping = 12 Features=0x8021bf AMD Features=0x80000800 real memory = 67043328 (65472K bytes) avail memory = 62058496 (60604K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0330000. K6-family MTRR support enabled (2 registers) md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib2: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib2 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 7.1 pci0: at 7.2 irq 15 pci0: at 8.0 xl0: <3Com 3c900B-TPO Etherlink XL> port 0xdc00-0xdc7f mem 0xe8002000-0xe800207f irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:da:38:22:5c xl0: selecting 10baseT transceiver, half duplex ahc0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xe8001000-0xe8001fff irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 aic7880: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs pcib1: on motherboard pci2: on pcib1 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 4094MB (8386000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4094MB (8386000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) WARNING: / was not properly dismounted uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 15 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 2:58:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF0337B405 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:58:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5B9xhK30689 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:59:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:59:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <3B243125.31963.1FD309BA@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 dunc@tiny.net wrote: > I just installed 4.1 from cdrom on a freshly formatted disk, cvsup'd > stable, did a buildworld, and got this error. So unless wacky state > information is being installed with the src distribution, that's not the > answer. My guess is that people who have been building regularly > have success because the updated headers were coped into the > system include directory on a successful build before the directory > structure was changed. But those of us trying to use the new tree > cold are getting the old includes because the new ones aren't being > found first any more. Try "make cleandir; make world" or, more simply, "make buildworld". What's happening is that you have leftover .depend files in /usr/src that point to the old location for the header files in question, and you need to get rid of them. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 3: 4:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from oksala.org (modemcable048.156-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca [24.201.156.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3F537B414 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:04:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from silence@oksala.org) Received: (from silence@localhost) by oksala.org (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f5BA1v622293 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:01:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from silence) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:01:57 -0400 From: silence To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: TCP_RESTRICT_RST Message-ID: <20010611060157.A22209@oksala.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I've just cvsup'ed this morning, and the option TCP_RESTRICT_RST is no more in the stable kernel. Do someone know why it's not in the STABLE kernel thanks have a good day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 3:38:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from malkavian.org (malkavian.org [206.136.132.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2541837B407 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:37:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: (from rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5BAbTY79465 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:37:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:37:28 -0700 From: "brian j. peterson" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TCP_RESTRICT_RST Message-ID: <20010611033728.F55942@malkavian.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010611060157.A22209@oksala.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611060157.A22209@oksala.org>; from silence@oksala.org on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 06:01:57AM -0400 X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 06:01:57AM -0400, silence wrote: > I've just cvsup'ed this morning, and the option TCP_RESTRICT_RST is no more in the stable kernel. Do someone know why it's not in the STABLE kernel From http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES : Axe TCP_RESTRICT_RST. It was never a particularly good idea except for a few very specific scenarios, and now that we have had net.inet.tcp.blackhole for quite some time there is really no reason to use it any more. for more information on net.inet.tcp.blackhole, run 'man 4 blackhole'. -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== | rbw aka bjp | god's final message to his creation: | | rbw@myplace.org | we apologize for the inconvenience. | ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 3:51:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web14701.mail.yahoo.com (web14701.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC74C37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:51:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hackr_d@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010611105132.17381.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.67.120.228] by web14701.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:51:32 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:51:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Donn Miller Subject: Re: Problems with com ports To: Koen Schreel , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3B248BCA.9D77138A@tue.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Koen Schreel wrote: > Since my last upgrade (from 4.2-STABLE to 4.3-STABLE) I have some > strange behavior of the cuua devices. In order for jpilot to use > them I change their permissions to 666. But as soon as jpilot > actually tries to use them, they magically convert back to 600, and > no connection with my Palm is established. > Has anyone an explanation/solution? Sure, 666 is the sign of the beast. But seriously, how could jpilot be using all of the cuaa ports? Which one did you change? Were you running as root? What groups are you in if running as regular user, i.e., what's the output of "id -Gn"? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 4:37:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freenix.no (atreides.freenix.no [217.68.117.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3712E37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:37:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morten@freenix.no) Received: (from morten@localhost) by freenix.no (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5BBbbW33396 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:37:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from morten) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:37:37 +0200 From: "Morten A . Middelthon" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.3-STABLE box with Intel/fxp NIC loosing contact Message-ID: <20010611133737.B31083@freenix.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-PGP-Key: http://freenix.no/~morten/pgp.txt X-PGP-Key-FingerPrint: 20 40 7A 47 1E A0 BF CF 61 BB CD 9D B3 AD CF E2 D4 90 C3 8D X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-Warning: So cunning you could brush your teeth with it. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I've got a 4.3-STABLE box with 4 PCI Intel NICs using the fxp-driver. I did a new build from sources from 2001-06-08, which means I've got the new fxp-driver from -CURRENT. Every now and then the box looses contact with the network, and stays disconnected for several minutes, but then suddenly comes back again. No messages anywhere indicating what's wrong. Are there perhaps any limitations to how many fxp NICs you can have in one FreeBSD box? Or am I perhaps just unlucky with the hardware? See attached file for dmesg-output -- Morten A. Middelthon Freenix Norge http://www.freenix.no/ -- UNIX is a lever for the intellect. -- J.R. Mashey --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: Dmesg-output Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dmesg.output" Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 8 11:10:38 CEST 2001 morten@spock:/usr/src/sys/compile/kgw Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 801824009 Hz CPU: AMD Duron(tm) Processor (801.82-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x631 Stepping = 1 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0440000<,AMIE,DSP,3DNow!> real memory = 67043328 (65472K bytes) avail memory = 62468096 (61004K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02bc000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 12 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xa000-0xa00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 chip1: at device 7.4 on pci0 fxp0: port 0xac00-0xac3f mem 0xd8000000-0xd80fffff,0xd8403000-0xd8403fff irq 15 at device 9.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:5a:9b:b4 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp1: port 0xb000-0xb03f mem 0xd8100000-0xd81fffff,0xd8401000-0xd8401fff irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:90:27:ee:c1:ec inphy1: on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp2: port 0xb400-0xb43f mem 0xd8200000-0xd82fffff,0xd8400000-0xd8400fff irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 fxp2: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:5a:9b:75 inphy2: on miibus2 inphy2: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp3: port 0xb800-0xb83f mem 0xd8300000-0xd83fffff,0xd8402000-0xd8402fff irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0 fxp3: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:44:83:5d inphy3: on miibus3 inphy3: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto atapci1: port 0xcc00-0xccff,0xc800-0xc803,0xc400-0xc407,0xc000-0xc003,0xbc00-0xbc07 irq 15 at device 14.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0xbc00 on atapci1 ata3: at 0xc400 on atapci1 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging disabled --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 4:42: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E900537B408 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:41:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09979; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:41:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: TCP_RESTRICT_RST removed From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 11 Jun 2001 13:41:54 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As some of you have already noticed, the TCP_RESTRICT_RST option has disappeared. FreeBSD has for some time had something called blackhole that servers the same purpose as TCP_RESTRICT_RST, except better. Let me add that most if not all of you who have complained about this option's disappearance had no use for it in the first place. FreeBSD does RST rate limiting by default (through icmp_bandlim), and that should be sufficient protection unless you're running an EFNet IRC server or a similarly exposed high-profile server (and believe you me, you have no idea what "exposed" and "high-profile" mean until you've tried to admin an EFNet IRC server) DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 5:21: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freenix.no (atreides.freenix.no [217.68.117.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D1837B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morten@freenix.no) Received: (from morten@localhost) by freenix.no (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5BCL8J33712 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:21:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from morten) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:21:07 +0200 From: "Morten A . Middelthon" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3-STABLE box with Intel/fxp NIC loosing contact Message-ID: <20010611142107.D31083@freenix.no> References: <20010611133737.B31083@freenix.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611133737.B31083@freenix.no>; from morten@freenix.no on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 01:37:37PM +0200 X-PGP-Key: http://freenix.no/~morten/pgp.txt X-PGP-Key-FingerPrint: 20 40 7A 47 1E A0 BF CF 61 BB CD 9D B3 AD CF E2 D4 90 C3 8D X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-Warning: So cunning you could brush your teeth with it. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 01:37:37PM +0200, Morten A . Middelthon wrote: > > I've got a 4.3-STABLE box with 4 PCI Intel NICs using the fxp-driver. I did a > new build from sources from 2001-06-08, which means I've got the new > fxp-driver from -CURRENT. > > Every now and then the box looses contact with the network, and stays > disconnected for several minutes, but then suddenly comes back again. No > messages anywhere indicating what's wrong. > > Are there perhaps any limitations to how many fxp NICs you can have in one > FreeBSD box? Or am I perhaps just unlucky with the hardware? > > See attached file for dmesg-output Don't know if it's relevant, but when the box looses contact I get this on other boxes on the same lan: Before: worf:~# arp -a | grep kgw kgw.coretrek.no (217.68.117.30) at 0:d0:b7:5a:9b:b4 [ethernet] And then it looses contact: worf:~# arp -a | grep kgw kgw.coretrek.no (217.68.117.30) at (incomplete) [ethernet] (kgw.coretrek.no being the box which looses contact). -- Morten A. Middelthon Freenix Norge http://www.freenix.no/ -- "There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their home." -- Ken Olson, President of DEC, World Future Society Convention, 1977 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 5:24:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9987537B401; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:24:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (#6@localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5BCOAI70504; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:24:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <200106111224.f5BCOAI70504@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Pete French Cc: msmith@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Image-URL: http://www.transsys.com/louie/images/louie-mail.jpg From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Very odd clock problem References: In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:47:54 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:24:10 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > What happens specificly is this: I get a user (and its always the same user) > who complains that the dates on his outgoing emails are being timestamped in > 1933. I login, type 'date' and sure enough it says it is a date in > 1933. I then reset the date. There is nothing in the log files to indicate > what has happened - other than the date on other messages jumping back > to sometime in May (the year isnt logged in /var/log/messages I assume, > but the month change is very obvious and I am assuming this co-incides > with the year date change). It's just a long shot, but when you log in as this user, and run 'date -u' or reset the TZ environment variable, do you still get something bizzare? Is is possible there's some weirdness in the local timezone this user might be trying to use? louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 6:11:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lorca.tdx.co.uk (uk1.hood.co.uk [195.188.177.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E83D37B405 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:11:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@lorca.tdx.co.uk) Received: (from kpielorz@localhost) by lorca.tdx.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5BDA4b02035; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:10:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Karl Pielorz Reply-To: kpielorz@tdx.co.uk To: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:10:04 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061114100400.02030@lorca.tdx.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday 11 June 2001 10:59 am, Chris BeHanna wrote: > Try "make cleandir; make world" or, more simply, "make > buildworld". > What's happening is that you have leftover .depend files in > /usr/src that point to the old location for the header files in > question, and you need to get rid of them. Just tried that here on a 4.2-STABLE machine that had the same error, i.e. cvsup to 4.3-S, cd /usr/src; make buildworld gave the "/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: `TH_ECN' undeclared here (not in a function)" Error, doing a 'cd /usr/src; make cleandir; make buildworld' nets exactly the same error... :( - unless I'm being incredibly dense [which is perfectly possible :)] I'm going back to that office later, I'll see if I can get it to finally compile... [Only another 3 machines to go :)] -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 6:34:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023FE37B408 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:34:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f5BDXWS94655; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:33:32 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:33:32 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Karl Pielorz Cc: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 Message-ID: <20010611163332.A77286@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Karl Pielorz , Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable References: <01061114100400.02030@lorca.tdx.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01061114100400.02030@lorca.tdx.co.uk>; from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 02:10:04PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Re-cvsup, I've committed a work-around for this problem in src/Makefile.inc1,v 1.141.2.29. On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 02:10:04PM +0100, Karl Pielorz wrote: > On Monday 11 June 2001 10:59 am, Chris BeHanna wrote: > > > Try "make cleandir; make world" or, more simply, "make > > buildworld". > > What's happening is that you have leftover .depend files in > > /usr/src that point to the old location for the header files in > > question, and you need to get rid of them. > > Just tried that here on a 4.2-STABLE machine that had the same error, i.e. > cvsup to 4.3-S, cd /usr/src; make buildworld gave the > > "/usr/src/sbin/ipmon/../../contrib/ipfilter/ipmon.c:95: `TH_ECN' undeclared > here (not in a function)" > > Error, doing a 'cd /usr/src; make cleandir; make buildworld' nets exactly the > same error... :( - unless I'm being incredibly dense [which is perfectly > possible :)] > > I'm going back to that office later, I'll see if I can get it to finally > compile... [Only another 3 machines to go :)] -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 6:53:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dilbert.fcg.co.uk (dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk [194.203.69.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAFC37B407; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:53:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfrench@firstcallgroup.co.uk) Received: from pfrench by dilbert.fcg.co.uk with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 159S86-0000sy-00; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:53:18 +0100 To: louie@TransSys.COM Subject: Re: Very odd clock problem Cc: msmith@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200106111224.f5BCOAI70504@whizzo.transsys.com> Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:53:18 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It's just a long shot, but when you log in as this user, and run 'date -u' > or reset the TZ environment variable, do you still get something bizzare? He has no TZ variable set.I cant see if it looks odd for him until it misbehaves again, but I will... > Is is possible there's some weirdness in the local timezone this user > might be trying to use? A normal user shouldnt be able to trash the system clock though, no matter how wierd his local timezone. hes using pine I believe, but thats not suid so I cant see how that could alter the clock either. sigh, I;m going to revbuild the kerenl in ase an error crept in on my last build and see if that helps. -pcf. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 7:58: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.bsdhome.com (unknown [24.25.2.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5434F37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:57:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd@bsdhome.com) Received: from vger.bsdhome.com (jupiter [192.168.220.13]) by saturn.bsdhome.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5BEvrZ19282 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:57:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bsd@localhost) by vger.bsdhome.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5BEvmU14336; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:57:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsd) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:57:48 -0400 From: Brian Dean To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: sshd failing with: 'fatal: PAM setcred failed[6]: Permission denied' Message-ID: <20010611105748.A14299@vger.bsdhome.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, After updating yesterday from about a week before, sshd won't let me login, reporting: sshd[14238]: Accepted rsa for bsd from xx.xx.xx.xx port 1243 sshd[14238]: fatal: PAM setcred failed[6]: Permission denied My /etc/pam.conf is rev 1.6.2.6 and hasn't been changed. Also, my sshd_config file has not been altered either. I did a mergemaster as part of the update. This was working just fine about a week ago. Any ideas? [If this is old news, I apologize, the -stable archives appear to be down at the moment so I can't search.] Thanks, -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 7:59: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lorca.tdx.co.uk (uk1.hood.co.uk [195.188.177.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AC837B403; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:58:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@lorca.tdx.co.uk) Received: (from kpielorz@localhost) by lorca.tdx.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5BEv1a02115; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:57:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Karl Pielorz Reply-To: kpielorz@tdx.co.uk To: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:57:01 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable References: <01061114100400.02030@lorca.tdx.co.uk> <20010611163332.A77286@sunbay.com> In-Reply-To: <20010611163332.A77286@sunbay.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061115570101.02030@lorca.tdx.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday 11 June 2001 2:33 pm, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > Re-cvsup, I've committed a work-around for this problem in > src/Makefile.inc1,v 1.141.2.29. Got it, and it seems to work nicely :) I've got another two boxes to go, I'll let you know if I hit any more problems, Thanks, -Karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 8: 6: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kweetal.tue.nl (kweetal.tue.nl [131.155.2.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103B637B408 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:06:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from K.R.A.M.Schreel@tue.nl) Received: from wop5.wop.wtb.tue.nl (wop5.wop.wtb.tue.nl [131.155.56.55]) by kweetal.tue.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5BF5xs01204; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:59 +0200 (MDT) Received: from tue.nl (wop24.wop.wtb.tue.nl [131.155.56.116]) by wop5.wop.wtb.tue.nl (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5BF5wa08175; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:58 +0200 (MDT) Message-ID: <3B24DE2A.C2D47782@tue.nl> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:14 +0200 From: Koen Schreel Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donn Miller , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with com ports References: <20010611105132.17381.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Donn Miller wrote: > > > Sure, 666 is the sign of the beast. I did think of that, of course :-) > But seriously, how could jpilot be > using all of the cuaa ports? > Which one did you change? Were you > running as root? What groups are you in if running as regular user, > i.e., what's the output of "id -Gn"? OK, forget about my problems, I just found out. I `forgot' that I had played with mgetty, which caused the trouble on cuaa1. Koen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 8:16:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from search.sparks.net (search.sparks.net [208.5.188.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8942C37B40B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:16:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmiller@sparks.net) Received: by search.sparks.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id C630FDB49; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:16:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by search.sparks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7331DB48 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:16:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:16:48 -0400 (EDT) From: David Miller To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: serial port stuck at 9600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All:) Is there a problem with setting serial port speeds in 4.3R? I've: changed ttys to: ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" dialup on secure and kill -HUP 1, added BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED=115200 to /etc/make.conf, remade and reinstalled the boot blocks, added options CONSPEED=115200 to the kernel config file, relinked, installed, and rebooted AND tried stty 115200 < /dev/ttyd0 from a root prompt. I even tried changing the security level to -1. com1 AKA /dev/ttyd0 remains stuck at 9600 baud. Any clues? The software is 4.3R. Hardware is a Tyan tiger-200 (S2505DNGR). Dmesg reports: sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, Other items of interest: # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 options CONSPEED=115200 Thanks, ---David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 8:52:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E9A37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:52:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5BFqAB20461; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:52:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:52:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106111552.f5BFqAB20461@earth.backplane.com> To: Brian Dean Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Patch for PAM/ssh problem (was Re: sshd failing with: 'fatal: PAM setcred failed[6]: Permission denied') References: <20010611105748.A14299@vger.bsdhome.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Hi, : :After updating yesterday from about a week before, sshd won't let :me login, reporting: : : sshd[14238]: Accepted rsa for bsd from xx.xx.xx.xx port 1243 : sshd[14238]: fatal: PAM setcred failed[6]: Permission denied : :My /etc/pam.conf is rev 1.6.2.6 and hasn't been changed. Also, :my sshd_config file has not been altered either. I did a :mergemaster as part of the update. : :This was working just fine about a week ago. Any ideas? : :[If this is old news, I apologize, the -stable archives appear to :be down at the moment so I can't search.] : :Thanks, :-Brian The below patch should temporarily solve the problem until the bright boys that broke ssh and/or pam figure out the correct fix. Patch the file in contrib as shown and then do: cd /usr/src/lib/libpam make make install Then restart sshd and you are done. -Matt Index: pam_dispatch.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/contrib/libpam/libpam/pam_dispatch.c,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1.6.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1.6.1 pam_dispatch.c --- pam_dispatch.c 2001/06/07 09:07:32 1.1.1.1.6.1 +++ pam_dispatch.c 2001/06/09 21:48:20 @@ -270,7 +270,7 @@ break; case PAM_SETCRED: h = pamh->handlers.conf.setcred; - use_cached_chain = 1; + use_cached_chain = 0; break; case PAM_ACCOUNT: h = pamh->handlers.conf.acct_mgmt; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 9: 5:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34B2C37B403 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:05:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 23913 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Jun 2001 16:06:04 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:06:04 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Kirill Ponomarew Cc: Nuno Teixeira , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "unknown option "TCP_RESTRICT_RST" ?" Message-ID: <20010611180604.E17891@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20010610204038.R55770-100000@gateway.bogus> <20010610222913.A14307@uni-duesseldorf.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zjcmjzIkjQU2rmur" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010610222913.A14307@uni-duesseldorf.de>; from ponomare@uni-duesseldorf.de on Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 10:29:13PM +0200 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --zjcmjzIkjQU2rmur Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kirill Ponomarew(ponomare@uni-duesseldorf.de)@2001.06.10 22:29:13 +0000: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 09:05:26PM +0100, Nuno Teixeira wrote: > > Hello to all, > >=20 > > I allways used TCP_RESTRICT_RST on my firewall/kernel configuration. I'm > > tracking STABLE and the last build was on 2001-06-06. Today, 2001-06-10, > > when I'm make buildkernel I got the error: ""unknown option > > "TCP_RESTRICT_RST" ". > >=20 > > Does this option has been deprecated? >=20 > [from cvs-all] >=20 > Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 09:18:15 -0700 (PDT) > From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav > Log: MFC: Nuke the TCP_RESTRICT_RST option. >=20 > [/from cvs-all] fyi, this options actually is deprecated. see blackhole(4) and put the appropriate values in /etc/sysctl.conf, eg.: rohrbach@WM:datasink[~]17% cat /etc/sysctl.conf=20 net.inet.tcp.blackhole=3D2 net.inet.udp.blackhole=3D1 which does not emit anything anymore that appears to hit closed ports (no process listening there). it silently discards packets, read the docs twice before using it, you have been warned :-) /k --=20 > May the source be with you! KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 --zjcmjzIkjQU2rmur Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7JOxsM0BPTilkv0YRAn42AJ9pwZLYYrbzca7sgpuugrK7Cp0pyQCgsqpy JRje3sSPFbvP5DJHi686uAI= =mN0E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zjcmjzIkjQU2rmur-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 9:19:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 737EA37B407 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:19:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 24451 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Jun 2001 16:19:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:19:30 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Juha Saarinen Cc: 'Richard Smith' , "'Freebsd-Stable@Freebsd. Org'" Subject: Re: Disk geometry oddity Message-ID: <20010611181930.F17891@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20010610230647.A665@gaia.home.rdls.net> <006501c0f1fb$c8d23ac0$0a01a8c0@den2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="27ZtN5FSuKKSZcBU" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <006501c0f1fb$c8d23ac0$0a01a8c0@den2>; from juha@saarinen.org on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:22:07AM +1200 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --27ZtN5FSuKKSZcBU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Juha Saarinen(juha@saarinen.org)@2001.06.11 10:22:07 +0000: > :: By allowing sysinstall to use a "more likely" geometry, it=20 > :: fixed the problem, > :: see also FAQ 1.17. >=20 > Silly question, perhaps, but if you change to the "more likely" geometry > with the G key, would you lose data? this depends solely on the fact if there is data on the disk (other partitions) you want to keep. >=20 > :: In case you weren't aware, "dangerously dedicated mode" is=20 > :: still available,=20 > :: albeit not recommended, using the (purposely) undocumented 'F' key. >=20 > No, I gather so, but it's an existing installation with two "dangerously > dedicated" disks. all the fuzz about geometry of your disks is only important when booting. when your bios does not grok the layout, you're hosed (box won't boot). when the kernel is loaded and starts up, the scsi devices are accessed natively with linear adresses. if you multiboot (dos/win/...) you should leave the geometry as it is, because you would step on the feet of microshaft's bootloader which is - ehrm, no pun intended - still way 80ish, even on win2000, and fucks up without any useable error messages (very "generic" ones, like "my car does not run"). as a rule of thumb, you should create your "a" partition at the beginning of the disk. the "a" partition holds the root filesystem, thus it contains /boot with the loader and custom config. if you are going to use from big disks with multiboot, create an msdog partition small enough to create a bootable slice for *bsd which can be reached by bios addressing. without the well-known "adaptec mapping" with n cylinders, 255 heads and 63 sectors/track you would not be able to boot partitions behind the 1GB limit. o/~ it's an evil world we're living in... o/~ /k --=20 > UNiX *IS* user friendly. It's just selective about who it's friends are. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 --27ZtN5FSuKKSZcBU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7JO+SM0BPTilkv0YRAmXlAKC7+TRPZysc0wbcguE0VE6sFhyXHACdFb8N 2+ejz2dTRcV4gh91M2k2hbA= =geR7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --27ZtN5FSuKKSZcBU-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 9:40:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD02937B407 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Received: from DougBarton.net (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA74478 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Message-ID: <3B24F464.AF0D97C0@DougBarton.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:40:04 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: *** Heads up: buildworld issues Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Howdy, Due to some sources being relocated in the tree it may be necessary to clean /usr/obj and do 'make cleandir' in your src tree. The following course of action has reasonably good chance to succeed: 1. cd /usr/src ; make cleandir ; make cleandir 2. rm -r /usr/obj/* 3. make buildworld Good luck, Doug -- If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough. Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 9:43:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C496037B40B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:43:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Received: from DougBarton.net (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA74517 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:43:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Message-ID: <3B24F520.BEB625D4@DougBarton.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:43:12 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: *** Heads up: buildworld issues References: <3B24F464.AF0D97C0@DougBarton.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Barton wrote: > > Howdy, > > Due to some sources being relocated in the tree it may be necessary to > clean /usr/obj and do 'make cleandir' in your src tree. The following > course of action has reasonably good chance to succeed: > > 1. cd /usr/src ; make cleandir ; make cleandir > 2. rm -r /usr/obj/* > 3. make buildworld d'oh! I forgot to mention that the SHARED=symlinks option is now deprecated, please avoid using it. Doug -- If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough. Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 9:49:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sal1.yamalinfo.ru (sal1.yamalinfo.ru [195.133.157.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CA737B405 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:49:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vorob@yamalinfo.ru) Received: from mig (d251.yamalinfo.ru [195.133.157.251]) by sal1.yamalinfo.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5BGmuQ92416 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:48:57 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from vorob@yamalinfo.ru) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:48:54 +0600 From: Yuri Vorobyev X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52f) Reply-To: Yuri Vorobyev X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2612422359.20010611224854@yamalinfo.ru> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: orbs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! from freebsd.mc: dnl ORBS also offers a multitude of DNS based block hole lists. For more dnl information, visit: http://www.orbs.org/usingindex.html This link is obsolete. -- Yuri Vorobyev vorob@yamalinfo.ru www.yamalinfo.ru +7-34922-47791 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 9:53: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dataloss.net (massive.dataloss.net [212.189.232.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12C8137B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@dataloss.net) Received: (qmail 16299 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Jun 2001 16:52:47 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:52:47 +0200 From: Peter van Dijk To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: orbs Message-ID: <20010611185247.J8182@dataloss.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <2612422359.20010611224854@yamalinfo.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <2612422359.20010611224854@yamalinfo.ru>; from vorob@yamalinfo.ru on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:48:54PM +0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:48:54PM +0600, Yuri Vorobyev wrote: > Hello! > > from freebsd.mc: > > dnl ORBS also offers a multitude of DNS based block hole lists. For more > dnl information, visit: http://www.orbs.org/usingindex.html > > This link is obsolete. The status of the ORBS project is unknown. It might be revived, so don't go too fast. Greetz, Peter -- dataloss networks '/ignore-ance is bliss' - me 'Het leven is een stuiterbal, maar de mijne plakt aan t plafond!' - me To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 9:55:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D3837B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:55:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5BGtB921734; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:55:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:55:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106111655.f5BGtB921734@earth.backplane.com> To: Peter van Dijk Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: orbs References: <2612422359.20010611224854@yamalinfo.ru> <20010611185247.J8182@dataloss.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> :> This link is obsolete. : :The status of the ORBS project is unknown. It might be revived, so don't :go too fast. : :Greetz, Peter :-- :dataloss networks :'/ignore-ance is bliss' - me :'Het leven is een stuiterbal, maar de mijne plakt aan t plafond!' - me God I hope not. Let it die. We can replace it with a MAPS reference (if there isn't already one there). -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 9:57: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wasp.eng.ufl.edu (wasp.eng.ufl.edu [128.227.116.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2CC37B405 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:56:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob@eng.ufl.edu) Received: from eng.ufl.edu (scanner.engnet.ufl.edu [128.227.152.221]) by wasp.eng.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02775 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:56:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B24F859.5F15ED70@eng.ufl.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:56:57 -0400 From: Bob Johnson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en, eo MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: D-Link DWL-650 wireless pccard doesn't work in -STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got my D-Link DWL-650 802.11b pccard working in FreeBSD 4.2, and then upgraded my system to 4.3 STABLE on 5 June. The card stopped working. The driver can't initialize, and worse, it renders the PCMCIA ports unusable by my wired Ethernet card until I power down the system (I haven't tried rebooting without powering down -- a reboot may be sufficient). I.E. once the wi driver has tried to attach, my other card cannot attach either. Looking at the wi driver change log, I guessed that the problem was introduced on April 22 when the attach method was changed, so I "downgraded" to RELENG_4_3, and that solved the problem for now. The card has one other problem: I can't get it to use encryption. This was true in 4.2 as well. I'm posting the mostly for the benefit of others who may run into the problem, but if anyone has suggestions (particularly wrt enabling encryption), I'd love to hear them. I'm going to post a more diagnostically detailed description of the problem to -mobile. - Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 10: 0:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dataloss.net (massive.dataloss.net [212.189.232.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 084E237B405 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:00:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@dataloss.net) Received: (qmail 16330 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Jun 2001 17:00:10 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:00:10 +0200 From: Peter van Dijk To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: orbs Message-ID: <20010611190010.K8182@dataloss.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <2612422359.20010611224854@yamalinfo.ru> <20010611185247.J8182@dataloss.net> <200106111655.f5BGtB921734@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106111655.f5BGtB921734@earth.backplane.com>; from dillon@earth.backplane.com on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:55:11AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:55:11AM -0700, Matt Dillon wrote: [snip] > God I hope not. Let it die. We can replace it with a MAPS reference > (if there isn't already one there). Not to go anywhere political, but let's let people have a choice, ok? [I propose thread end] Greetz, Peter -- dataloss networks '/ignore-ance is bliss' - me 'Het leven is een stuiterbal, maar de mijne plakt aan t plafond!' - me To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 10:18:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com [171.70.157.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5004A37B40D; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:18:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f5BHGbF02756; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5BHI3V10936; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:18:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106111718.f5BHI3V10936@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4+ 06/08/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: RELNOTESng broken on 4-STABLE From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-139348210P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:18:03 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-139348210P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi-- Due to some recent, wide-ranging commits made across the doc/ and src/ trees in -CURRENT, it appears that RELNOTESng is now broken for 4-STABLE. RELNOTESng in -CURRENT appears to build correctly. As I'm still trying to understand the changes that were made, I'm not sure what will be required to get this fixed. Ideally, the person person whose commits caused the breakage will be able to fix this soon, but I'll be working on this too. For those of you doing release builds, you'll need to set NODOC=YES temporarily. (Again, this is for 4-STABLE only.) I'd like to ask committers to please hold off on updates to RELNOTESng until this situation has been resolved. (Among other things I'm awaiting the fate of the now-frozen doc/ tree.) Thanks, Bruce. --==_Exmh_-139348210P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7JP1L2MoxcVugUsMRAtucAJ0aot11xHfDUxK2T8wU7lZJ/VxZCQCfXN6a KU66Yi10aBwDkmvWOEHX4YE= =vyR9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-139348210P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 10:21:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cicero1.cybercity.dk (cicero1.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5828837B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:21:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fj@batmule.dk) Received: from prefect.unknown.dk (dag.batmule.dk [212.242.86.227]) by cicero1.cybercity.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC8115FD98; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:21:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from fj@localhost) by prefect.unknown.dk (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5BHL7p30463; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:21:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fj) From: Flemming Jacobsen Message-Id: <200106111721.f5BHL7p30463@prefect.unknown.dk> Subject: Re: Patch for PAM/ssh problem (was Re: sshd failing with: 'fatal: PAM setcred failed[6]: Permission denied') In-Reply-To: <200106111552.f5BFqAB20461@earth.backplane.com> from Matt Dillon at "Jun 11, 2001 8:52:10 am" To: dillon@earth.backplane.com (Matt Dillon) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:21:07 +0200 (CEST) Cc: bsd@bsdhome.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Dillon wrote: > :After updating yesterday from about a week before, sshd won't let > :me login, reporting: > : > : sshd[14238]: Accepted rsa for bsd from xx.xx.xx.xx port 1243 > : sshd[14238]: fatal: PAM setcred failed[6]: Permission denied > : > :My /etc/pam.conf is rev 1.6.2.6 and hasn't been changed. Also, > :my sshd_config file has not been altered either. I did a > :mergemaster as part of the update. > : > :This was working just fine about a week ago. Any ideas? > : > :Thanks, > :-Brian > > The below patch should temporarily solve the problem until the > bright boys that broke ssh and/or pam figure out the correct > fix. Patch the file in contrib as shown and then do: > [ ... ] A workaround which might be acceptable to some, is to authenticate using password, not the authentication agent. This works for me. Hyg' Flemming -- Flemming Jacobsen Email: fj@batmule.dk ---=== If speed kills, Windows users may live forever. ===--- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 10:27:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.bsdhome.com (unknown [24.25.2.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF8537B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:27:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd@bsdhome.com) Received: from vger.bsdhome.com (jupiter [192.168.220.13]) by saturn.bsdhome.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5BHRfZ20169; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bsd@localhost) by vger.bsdhome.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5BHRaI15525; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:27:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsd) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:27:36 -0400 From: Brian Dean To: Matt Dillon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Patch for PAM/ssh problem (was Re: sshd failing with: 'fatal: PAM setcred failed[6]: Permission denied') Message-ID: <20010611132736.B14299@vger.bsdhome.com> References: <20010611105748.A14299@vger.bsdhome.com> <200106111552.f5BFqAB20461@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106111552.f5BFqAB20461@earth.backplane.com>; from dillon@earth.backplane.com on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 08:52:10AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 08:52:10AM -0700, Matt Dillon wrote: > The below patch should temporarily solve the problem until the > bright boys that broke ssh and/or pam figure out the correct > fix. Patch the file in contrib as shown and then do: > > cd /usr/src/lib/libpam > make > make install > > Then restart sshd and you are done. Worked like a champ! Thanks! -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 10:30:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bowhill.yi.org (bowhill.yi.org [216.122.158.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5A637B407 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:30:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kosmos@bowhill.yi.org) Received: from localhost (kosmos@localhost) by bowhill.yi.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5BHTXS14089; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:29:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kosmos@bowhill.yi.org) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:29:32 -0700 (PDT) From: kosmos To: Osamu MIHARA Cc: , Michael Lucas , Subject: Re: make world dies on 4.1-RELEASE -> today's RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <86y9qzbgr3.wl@localhost.prd.fc.nec.co.jp> Message-ID: <20010611102420.U7333-100000@bowhill.yi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks, Osamu.. I was able to get the symlinked directory to do its work, finally. But it would cause fewer problems to copy the files in. --Allan On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Osamu MIHARA wrote: > At Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:05:48 -0700 (PDT), > kosmos wrote: > > Yes, that sounds like a good explanation. I followed a similar line, but > > still have problems. > > : > > > Maybe I should create the directory and copy the files in there instead. > > I have just upgraded my 4.2-stable box to 4.3-stable. I have copied the > headers into /usr/include/netinet just as I wrote in the previous mail. > Everything works fine. Try it. > > -- Osamu > ----------------------------------------- Allan Bowhill kosmos@bowhill.yi.org ----------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 13: 3: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dagobert.skystream.nl (smtp.uwnet.nl [195.7.130.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673B737B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:02:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abgoeree@uwnet.nl) Received: from dyn.dailup.c227128069.isd.to (dyn.dailup.c227128069.isd.to [213.227.128.69]) by dagobert.skystream.nl (8.11.3/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5BK8at30491 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:08:41 +0200 Received: (qmail 15534 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Jun 2001 20:04:03 -0000 From: "Andre Goeree" Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:04:03 +0200 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: error in make cleandir (libpam) Message-ID: <20010611220403.A3742@mandark.attica.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Sender: abgoeree@uwnet.nl Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello -stable, While cleaning /usr/src the following error occured: # CVSupped stable # cd /usr/obj && rm -fr * # cd /usr/src # make cleandir [snip output] ===> lib/libpam/libpam rm -f [snip a lot of files] rm: security: is a directory *** Error code 1 Any ideas? so far i tried removing lib/libpam and a re-CVSup but that didn't solve the problem. Andre. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 13:16:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.altadena.net (ns.altadena.net [206.126.144.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6F137B408 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:16:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pete@ns.altadena.net) Received: (from pete@localhost) by ns.altadena.net (8.11.3/8.8.8) id f5BKF4M45688 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:15:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pete) From: Pete Carah Message-Id: <200106112015.f5BKF4M45688@ns.altadena.net> Subject: Re: Patch for PAM/ssh problem (was Re: sshd failing In-Reply-To: <20010611132736.B14299@vger.bsdhome.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:15:04 -0700 (PDT) References: <200106111552.f5BFqAB20461@earth.backplane.com> <20010611105748.A14299@vger.bsdhome.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Looks like Mark backed the PAM updates out, this morning. Looks to me like they required too many changes to other utilities, like sshd (among other things). He told me that he wasn't prepared to bring in *all* the changes yet in an answer to my earlier note about sshd. Since sshd works in -current (but is V2.9), with the same PAM version, I presume they handle loading *some* module in the PKI login case (this appears to be the problem with 2.3-green and the new PAM; either no module gets loaded and PAM fails the setcred (perm is the right error code for this case), or something like pam_unix gets loaded and didn't get used (i.e. no auth, and the saved return code defaults to perm). I'd presume they need a pam_permit or such in the PKI login case, or use pam_ssh (which doesn't appear to be used in -current yet, at least in pam.conf)). I haven't done any tracing of this like Matt has, so may be all (or partly) wet... Thanks, Matt, for the workaround... -- Pete To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 13:24:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dazed.slacker.com (dazed.slacker.com [64.81.115.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D584237B403 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:24:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nugget@dazed.slacker.com) Received: (qmail 91664 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Jun 2001 20:24:23 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:24:23 -0500 From: David McNett To: Andre Goeree Cc: stable@freebsd.org, markm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error in make cleandir (libpam) Message-ID: <20010611152423.B86220@dazed.slacker.com> References: <20010611220403.A3742@mandark.attica.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611220403.A3742@mandark.attica.home>; from abgoeree@uwnet.nl on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:04:03PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11-Jun-2001, Andre Goeree wrote: > While cleaning /usr/src the following error occured: > [snip output] > =3D=3D=3D> lib/libpam/libpam > rm -f [snip a lot of files] > rm: security: is a directory > *** Error code 1 I'm seeing the same error here on a brand new 4.2-RELEASE box which I cvsupped to RELENG_4 this morning. I emailed markm@freebsd.org a log. (I'm guessing that his commit to Makefile about four hours ago is the culprit...) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libpam/libpam/Makefile --=20 ________________________________________________________________________ |David McNett |To ensure privacy and data integrity this message has| |nugget@slacker.com|been encrypted using dual rounds of ROT-13 encryption| |Austin, TX USA |Please encrypt all important correspondence with PGP!| --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://members.slacker.com/~nugget/ iD8DBQE7JSj3s3nEpeQ8X8MRAh0RAKDmCOSJaj2LvVPo/oaqHyBM8wKBmwCg9XEz raHeF6fFeZveuy4k1eIwkW8= =khEC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 14: 0:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (grouter.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2A937B407 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:00:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5BKxt611762; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:59:55 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <200106112059.f5BKxt611762@gratis.grondar.za> To: David McNett Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error in make cleandir (libpam) References: <20010611152423.B86220@dazed.slacker.com> In-Reply-To: <20010611152423.B86220@dazed.slacker.com> ; from David McNett "Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:24:23 EST." Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:02:33 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Clean out _completely_ your /usr/obj/... dir. That should sort you out. M > --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On 11-Jun-2001, Andre Goeree wrote: > > While cleaning /usr/src the following error occured: > > [snip output] > > =3D=3D=3D> lib/libpam/libpam > > rm -f [snip a lot of files] > > rm: security: is a directory > > *** Error code 1 > > I'm seeing the same error here on a brand new 4.2-RELEASE box which I > cvsupped to RELENG_4 this morning. I emailed markm@freebsd.org a > log. (I'm guessing that his commit to Makefile about four hours ago > is the culprit...) > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libpam/libpam/Makefile > > --=20 > ________________________________________________________________________ > |David McNett |To ensure privacy and data integrity this message has| > |nugget@slacker.com|been encrypted using dual rounds of ROT-13 encryption| > |Austin, TX USA |Please encrypt all important correspondence with PGP!| > > --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > Content-Disposition: inline > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) > Comment: http://members.slacker.com/~nugget/ > > iD8DBQE7JSj3s3nEpeQ8X8MRAh0RAKDmCOSJaj2LvVPo/oaqHyBM8wKBmwCg9XEz > raHeF6fFeZveuy4k1eIwkW8= > =khEC > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq-- > -- Mark Murray Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 14:14:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dazed.slacker.com (dazed.slacker.com [64.81.115.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE7E537B405 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:14:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nugget@dazed.slacker.com) Received: (qmail 1131 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Jun 2001 21:14:38 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:14:38 -0500 From: David McNett To: Mark Murray Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error in make cleandir (libpam) Message-ID: <20010611161437.B321@dazed.slacker.com> References: <20010611152423.B86220@dazed.slacker.com> <200106112059.f5BKxt611762@gratis.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106112059.f5BKxt611762@gratis.grondar.za>; from mark@grondar.za on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:02:33PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11-Jun-2001, Mark Murray wrote: > Clean out _completely_ your /usr/obj/... dir. Even with an empty /usr/obj I'm seeing the "rm: security: is a directory" both trying to "make buildworld" and "make clean" in /usr/src. -- ________________________________________________________________________ |David McNett |To ensure privacy and data integrity this message has| |nugget@slacker.com|been encrypted using dual rounds of ROT-13 encryption| |Austin, TX USA |Please encrypt all important correspondence with PGP!| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 14:17:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.nextlevelinternet.com (ns1.nextlevelinternet.com [63.210.161.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E927637B407 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:17:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from haydenk@nextlevelinternet.com) Received: from laptop ([64.154.93.18]) by ns1.nextlevelinternet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA26961 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:14:12 -0700 From: "Hayden Katzenellenbogen" To: Subject: RE: error in make cleandir (libpam) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:17:16 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20010611161437.B321@dazed.slacker.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am getting that error on both a 4.3-stable machine and 4.1-release machine and I have done the same thing as Mark below.. ===> lib/libpam/libpam rm -f a.out pam_account.o pam_auth.o pam_data.o pam_delay.o pam_dispatch.o pam_end.o pam_env.o pam_handlers.o pam_item.o pam_log.o pam_misc.o pam_password.o pam_second.o pam_session.o pam_start.o pam_strerror.o help_env.o misc_conv.o xstrdup.o pam_get_pass.o pam_prompt.o pam_std_option.o pam_static_modules.o pam_account.o.tmp pam_auth.o.tmp pam_data.o.tmp pam_delay.o.tmp pam_dispatch.o.tmp pam_end.o.tmp pam_env.o.tmp pam_handlers.o.tmp pam_item.o.tmp pam_log.o.tmp pam_misc.o.tmp pam_password.o.tmp pam_second.o.tmp pam_session.o.tmp pam_start.o.tmp pam_strerror.o.tmp help_env.o.tmp misc_conv.o.tmp xstrdup.o.tmp pam_get_pass.o.tmp pam_prompt.o.tmp pam_std_option.o.tmp security pam_static.o setdef0.o _pam_static_modules.o setdef1.o setdef0.c setdef1.c setdefs.h pam_authenticate.3.gz pam_chauthtok.3.gz pam_fail_delay.3.gz pam_open_session.3.gz pam_setcred.3.gz pam_start.3.gz pam_strerror.3.gz pam.8.gz pam_authenticate.3.cat.gz pam_chauthtok.3.cat.gz pam_fail_delay.3.cat.gz pam_open_session.3.cat.gz pam_setcred.3.cat.gz pam_start.3.cat.gz pam_strerror.3.cat.gz pam.8.cat.gz rm: security: is a directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libpam/libpam. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libpam. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 On 11-Jun-2001, Mark Murray wrote: > Clean out _completely_ your /usr/obj/... dir. Even with an empty /usr/obj I'm seeing the "rm: security: is a directory" both trying to "make buildworld" and "make clean" in /usr/src. -- ________________________________________________________________________ |David McNett |To ensure privacy and data integrity this message has| |nugget@slacker.com|been encrypted using dual rounds of ROT-13 encryption| |Austin, TX USA |Please encrypt all important correspondence with PGP!| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 14:17:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4BF37B40B for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:17:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mixtim@home.com) Received: from cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com ([65.2.79.221]) by femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010611211748.VBCG24283.femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com>; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:17:48 -0700 Received: (from mixtim@localhost) by cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5BLHlt18441; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:17:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mixtim) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:17:47 -0400 From: Mixtim To: Mark Murray Cc: David McNett , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: error in make cleandir (libpam) Message-ID: <20010611171747.A18418@home.com> References: <20010611152423.B86220@dazed.slacker.com> <200106112059.f5BKxt611762@gratis.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106112059.f5BKxt611762@gratis.grondar.za>; from mark@grondar.za on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:02:33PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:02:33PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > Clean out _completely_ your /usr/obj/... dir. > > That should sort you out. No, it doesn't. Just cvsup'd immediately before sending this email. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 14:24:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513A837B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:24:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mixtim@home.com) Received: from cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com ([65.2.79.221]) by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010611212443.XWDA7556.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com> for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:24:43 -0700 Received: (from mixtim@localhost) by cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5BLOhr18584 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:24:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mixtim) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:24:43 -0400 From: Mixtim To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Message-ID: <20010611172443.A18552@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Several times in the last few weeks people have broken the STABLE branch, sometimes for days at a time. Why has this started happening? Is there no process to prevent this from happening? I have a wild idea. How about making everyone who commits to the STABLE branch actually: 1. Checkout a clean copy. 2. make buildworld. 3. Actually test the programs they changed. These three steps would have prevented each of the problems in the last few weeks. Does no one test anymore? Is no one required to test? Perhaps a process should be put into place. (unless there already is one in which case someone should start cracking the whip over some backs). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 14:52:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FB837B408 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:52:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.1]) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 159ZbN-0005vO-00; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:52:01 +1200 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:52:01 +1200 (NZST) From: Juha Saarinen To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" Cc: 'Richard Smith' , "'Freebsd-Stable@Freebsd. Org'" Subject: Re: Disk geometry oddity In-Reply-To: <20010611181930.F17891@mail.webmonster.de> Message-ID: X-S: Always MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > this depends solely on the fact if there is data on the disk (other > partitions) you want to keep. ;-) There is, and I was planning on keeping it. > all the fuzz about geometry of your disks is only important when > booting. when your bios does not grok the layout, you're hosed (box > won't boot). when the kernel is loaded and starts up, the scsi devices > are accessed natively with linear adresses. if you multiboot > (dos/win/...) you should leave the geometry as it is, because you would > step on the feet of microshaft's bootloader which is - ehrm, no pun > intended - still way 80ish, even on win2000, and fucks up without any > useable error messages (very "generic" ones, like "my car does not > run"). Yeah, I know... it's the result of an unholy cabal involving Intel, Microsoft, IBM and that very evil concept called "backward compatibility". These boxes are FreeBSD-only though, which is why they were once set to "dangerously dedicated" (donning flame suit as there's sure to be someone who'll have a go at this statement...) > as a rule of thumb, you should create your "a" partition at the > beginning of the disk. the "a" partition holds the root filesystem, thus > it contains /boot with the loader and custom config. if you are going to > use from big disks with multiboot, create an msdog partition small > enough to create a bootable slice for *bsd which can be reached by bios > addressing. without the well-known "adaptec mapping" with n cylinders, > 255 heads and 63 sectors/track you would not be able to boot partitions > behind the 1GB limit. OK, thanks, that's worth bearing in mind. I think it's mentioned in the FAQ as well. -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 14:54:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED0D37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:54:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [216.194.193.106]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6442E45F; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5BLs9x91221; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:54:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15141.15872.932345.499178@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:54:08 -0400 To: usb-bsd@eleetbsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: does USB "Q" drive work on FreeBSD 4.3? X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone tried and/or succeeded in getting one of these keychain Q drives to work on FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE? They seem like they'd be useful for configuration and small data backups. http://www.agatetech.com/products_q.html I don't own one, but am interested in buying some. Thanks. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 14:54:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bkmls01.bak.rr.com (bkmls01.bak.rr.com [24.30.163.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2CD37B403 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:54:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjackson@cs.csubak.edu) Received: from cs.csubak.edu ([24.161.200.221]) by bkmls01.bak.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:54:38 -0700 Message-ID: <3B253E99.6010409@cs.csubak.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:56:41 -0700 From: Russell Jackson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386; en-US; rv:0.9) Gecko/20010525 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? References: <20010611172443.A18552@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mixtim wrote: > Several times in the last few weeks people have broken the STABLE branch, > sometimes for days at a time. Why has this started happening? Is there no > process to prevent this from happening? > > I have a wild idea. How about making everyone who commits to the STABLE > branch actually: > > 1. Checkout a clean copy. > 2. make buildworld. > 3. Actually test the programs they changed. > > These three steps would have prevented each of the problems in the last few > weeks. Does no one test anymore? Is no one required to test? > > Perhaps a process should be put into place. (unless there already is one in > which case someone should start cracking the whip over some backs). > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 15: 2:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bkmls01.bak.rr.com (bkmls01.bak.rr.com [24.30.163.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE23237B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:02:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjackson@cs.csubak.edu) Received: from cs.csubak.edu ([24.161.200.221]) by bkmls01.bak.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:02:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3B25405D.2090209@cs.csubak.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:04:13 -0700 From: Russell Jackson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386; en-US; rv:0.9) Gecko/20010525 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? References: <20010611172443.A18552@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mixtim wrote: > Several times in the last few weeks people have broken the STABLE branch, > sometimes for days at a time. Why has this started happening? Is there no > process to prevent this from happening? > > I have a wild idea. How about making everyone who commits to the STABLE > branch actually: > > 1. Checkout a clean copy. > 2. make buildworld. > 3. Actually test the programs they changed. > > These three steps would have prevented each of the problems in the last few > weeks. Does no one test anymore? Is no one required to test? > > Perhaps a process should be put into place. (unless there already is one in > which case someone should start cracking the whip over some backs). > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Sorry about the previous reply. I can understand. I cvsup'ed yesterday only to find that ipfilter was broken due to having it it moved out of the base os tree and into contrib. I tried fixing this by modifying the source to use the header files in the local ipfilter directory rather than /usr/include/netinet, but then I recieved a new set of undefined symbol errors with kmemstat among others (perhaps we need to build the new kernel first?). Today I cvsup'ed yet again only to find that perl won't build either now. What's going on here? I know I'm not the only one with this build problem. I've seen numerious posts about this: ipfilter, ipmon.c, etc. I've yet to see a good answer. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 15: 9:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB6237B403 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:08:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5BM8ct06846; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:08:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: rjackson@cs.csubak.edu Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? In-Reply-To: <3B25405D.2090209@cs.csubak.edu> References: <20010611172443.A18552@home.com> <3B25405D.2090209@cs.csubak.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:08:38 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 18 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Short answer: -stable builds fine. Long answer: It only builds fine if you don't use non-standard build flags like SHARED=symlinks, which some people appear to be using since they're reporting problems. On a completely stock -stable system as of yesterday, I can report: >>> elf make world started on Sun Jun 10 12:28:33 PDT 2001 >>> elf make world completed on Sun Jun 10 13:23:54 PDT 2001 >>> Kernel build for WINSTON started on Sun Jun 10 13:23:54 PDT 2001 >>> Kernel build for WINSTON completed on Sun Jun 10 13:30:25 PDT 2001 So both the world and the kernel build just fine if you don't try to do things your own way right now and if you have a stock -stable source tree without local modifications. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 15:16:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125F037B403 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:16:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mixtim@home.com) Received: from cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com ([65.2.79.221]) by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010611221637.ZQQJ7556.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com>; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:16:37 -0700 Received: (from mixtim@localhost) by cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5BMGWY19160; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:16:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mixtim) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:16:32 -0400 From: Mixtim To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: rjackson@cs.csubak.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Message-ID: <20010611181632.A19118@home.com> References: <20010611172443.A18552@home.com> <3B25405D.2090209@cs.csubak.edu> <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:08:38PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:08:38PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Short answer: -stable builds fine. I know. I said just yesterday on this list that it builds fine. SSH didn't work properly for four days, but it built just fine. If the only qualification code must meet for STABLE is that it compiles then you should change the name. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 15:20:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bkmls01.bak.rr.com (bkmls01.bak.rr.com [24.30.163.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA5E37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:20:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjackson@cs.csubak.edu) Received: from cs.csubak.edu ([24.161.200.221]) by bkmls01.bak.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:20:13 -0700 Message-ID: <3B254497.4090001@cs.csubak.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:22:15 -0700 From: Russell Jackson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386; en-US; rv:0.9) Gecko/20010525 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? References: <20010611172443.A18552@home.com> <3B25405D.2090209@cs.csubak.edu> <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Short answer: -stable builds fine. > > Long answer: It only builds fine if you don't use non-standard build > flags like SHARED=symlinks, which some people appear to be using since > they're reporting problems. On a completely stock -stable system as > of yesterday, I can report: > > >>>>elf make world started on Sun Jun 10 12:28:33 PDT 2001 >>>>elf make world completed on Sun Jun 10 13:23:54 PDT 2001 >>>>Kernel build for WINSTON started on Sun Jun 10 13:23:54 PDT 2001 >>>>Kernel build for WINSTON completed on Sun Jun 10 13:30:25 PDT 2001 >>>> > > So both the world and the kernel build just fine if you don't try to > do things your own way right now and if you have a stock -stable > source tree without local modifications. > > - Jordan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > I have no non-standard build flags; I have no modifications. I just cvsup'ed yet again, and now it errors at pam instead of perl. It seems to be breaking earlier and ealier. cvsup command used: cvsup -P - stable-supfile (the file provided for in the manual) make.conf: CFLAGS=-O -pipe COPTFLAGS=-O -pipe NOPROFILE=true build commands used: script /root/mw.out && cd /usr/src && make -j4 buildworld && exit script /root/mw.out && cd /usr/src && make buildworld && exit current error: ===> lib/libpam/libpam rm -f a.out pam_account.o pam_auth.o pam_data.o pam_delay.o pam_dispatch.o pam_end.o pam_env.o pam_handlers.o pam_item.o pam_log.o pam_misc.o pam_password.o pam_second.o pam_session.o pam_start.o pam_strerror.o help_env.o misc_conv.o xstrdup.o pam_get_pass.o pam_prompt.o pam_std_option.o pam_static_modules.o pam_account.o.tmp pam_auth.o.tmp pam_data.o.tmp pam_delay.o.tmp pam_dispatch.o.tmp pam_end.o.tmp pam_env.o.tmp pam_handlers.o.tmp pam_item.o.tmp pam_log.o.tmp pam_misc.o.tmp pam_password.o.tmp pam_second.o.tmp pam_session.o.tmp pam_start.o.tmp pam_strerror.o.tmp help_env.o.tmp misc_conv.o.tmp xstrdup.o.tmp pam_get_pass.o.tmp pam_prompt.o.tmp pam_std_option.o.tmp security pam_static.o setdef0.o _pam_static_modules.o setdef1.o setdef0.c setdef1.c setdefs.h pam_authenticate.3.gz pam_chauthtok.3.gz pam_fail_delay.3.gz pam_open_session.3.gz pam_setcred.3.gz pam_start.3.gz pam_strerror.3.gz pam.8.gz pam_authenticate.3.cat.gz pam_chauthtok.3.cat.gz pam_fail_delay.3.cat.gz pam_open_session.3.cat.gz pam_setcred.3.cat.gz pam_start.3.cat.gz pam_strerror.3.cat.gz pam.8.cat.gz rm: security: is a directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libpam/libpam. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libpam/libpam. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libpam. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 15:32:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9311B37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:32:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5BMWHt06977; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:32:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: mixtim@home.com Cc: rjackson@cs.csubak.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? In-Reply-To: <20010611181632.A19118@home.com> References: <3B25405D.2090209@cs.csubak.edu> <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010611181632.A19118@home.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010611153217J.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:32:17 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 14 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmmm. It seems like this thread has degraded to simple project-bashing so I'll not be a party to keeping it on life support any longer. Suffice it to say that people make mistakes and of far greater importance is whether or not they realize it when they do and correct those mistakes. The pam/ssh suckage was backed out by Mark, with profuse apologies for his mistake, and the rest of the reports we've already covered so I think we can just let that rest. Finally, let's not forget that nobody is FORCING you to run -stable. In fact, users in your category are always recommended to stick with the releases and not upgrade until a new one comes out so I'm not even sure why we're having this conversation in the first place. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 15:33: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dazed.slacker.com (dazed.slacker.com [64.81.115.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 357B337B405 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:33:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nugget@dazed.slacker.com) Received: (qmail 16132 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Jun 2001 22:33:01 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:33:01 -0500 From: David McNett To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Message-ID: <20010611173301.A11392@dazed.slacker.com> References: <20010611172443.A18552@home.com> <3B25405D.2090209@cs.csubak.edu> <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:08:38PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11-Jun-2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Short answer: -stable builds fine. Let me reinforce Russel's mail to the list. As of right now, it's not building fine. libpam won't even "make clean" on a brand new box with no /usr/obj/* and no /etc/make.conf at all. I can't speak to the earlier breakage mentioned, but the list traffic seems to support Mixtim's complaint. --=20 ________________________________________________________________________ |David McNett |To ensure privacy and data integrity this message has| |nugget@slacker.com|been encrypted using dual rounds of ROT-13 encryption| |Austin, TX USA |Please encrypt all important correspondence with PGP!| --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://members.slacker.com/~nugget/ iD8DBQE7JUcds3nEpeQ8X8MRAh79AJ9/f0E0kNPe86TvcZsvIV1X9WwHKQCeK4wR PI9ZIxQsCy9PEsZEe1myc28= =9RC7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 15:44:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dazed.slacker.com (dazed.slacker.com [64.81.115.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6107637B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:44:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nugget@dazed.slacker.com) Received: (qmail 18145 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Jun 2001 22:44:34 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:44:34 -0500 From: David McNett To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: mixtim@home.com, rjackson@cs.csubak.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Message-ID: <20010611174434.A16013@dazed.slacker.com> References: <3B25405D.2090209@cs.csubak.edu> <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010611181632.A19118@home.com> <20010611153217J.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611153217J.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:32:17PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11-Jun-2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Hmmm. It seems like this thread has degraded to simple > project-bashing so I'll not be a party to keeping it on life support > any longer. I don't think this is the case at all. For whatever it's worth, it doesn't appear that the stability of -stable is the same priority it used to be. It's hardly project-bashing to raise concerns of this nature on the -stable mailing list. > Suffice it to say that people make mistakes and of far > greater importance is whether or not they realize it when they do and > correct those mistakes. The pam/ssh suckage was backed out by Mark, > with profuse apologies for his mistake, and the rest of the reports > we've already covered so I think we can just let that rest. The fact is, Mark's back-out of his earlier libpam commit created a brand-new breakage. It's not even a complicated or esoteric problem, a simple "make clean" on a fresh cvsup fails. I'm quite appreciative that Mark has been responsive to my emails and others to the list, but I'm frustrated that it took six hours and at least that many users to detect an error which should have been spotted prior to being committed. > In fact, users in your category are always recommended to stick with > the releases and not upgrade until a new one comes out so I'm not > even sure why we're having this conversation in the first place. Exactly what category of user am I? According to the handbook: "If you are a commercial user or someone who puts maximum stability of their FreeBSD system before all other concerns, you should consider tracking FreeBSD-STABLE." From my perspective, as a commercial user who puts the maximum stability of my freebsd systems before all other concerns, the level of respect and forethought being put into -stable commits is not at the same level it has traditionally been. This isn't project bashing so much as it is a plea to the freebsd core team to be mindful of what "stable" means to those of us out here in the userbase. -- ________________________________________________________________________ |David McNett |To ensure privacy and data integrity this message has| |nugget@slacker.com|been encrypted using dual rounds of ROT-13 encryption| |Austin, TX USA |Please encrypt all important correspondence with PGP!| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 15:45:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bkmls01.bak.rr.com (bkmls01.bak.rr.com [24.30.163.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263EA37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjackson@cs.csubak.edu) Received: from cs.csubak.edu ([24.161.200.221]) by bkmls01.bak.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:45:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3B254A88.2070401@cs.csubak.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:47:36 -0700 From: Russell Jackson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386; en-US; rv:0.9) Gecko/20010525 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: mixtim@home.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? References: <3B25405D.2090209@cs.csubak.edu> <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010611181632.A19118@home.com> <20010611153217J.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Hmmm. It seems like this thread has degraded to simple > project-bashing so I'll not be a party to keeping it on life support > any longer. Suffice it to say that people make mistakes and of far > greater importance is whether or not they realize it when they do and > correct those mistakes. The pam/ssh suckage was backed out by Mark, > with profuse apologies for his mistake, and the rest of the reports > we've already covered so I think we can just let that rest. > > Finally, let's not forget that nobody is FORCING you to run -stable. > In fact, users in your category are always recommended to stick with > the releases and not upgrade until a new one comes out so I'm not > even sure why we're having this conversation in the first place. > > - Jordan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > I appologize if I seemed to be bashing the project in some way. That was entirely not the intent of my posts. I simply wish to know why the build is breaking (if for no more reason than to know I'm not an complete idiot). Stable never did this before, and I'm tired of getting the "you aren't doing it right" answer. I have the upmost respect for the freebsd development team. Sorry again. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 15:51:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E618A37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.1]) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 159aWx-0005z2-00; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:51:31 +1200 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:51:31 +1200 (NZST) From: Juha Saarinen To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: "mixtim@home.com" , "rjackson@cs.csubak.edu" , "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? In-Reply-To: <20010611153217J.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: X-S: Always MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Finally, let's not forget that nobody is FORCING you to run -stable. > In fact, users in your category are always recommended to stick with > the releases and not upgrade until a new one comes out so I'm not > even sure why we're having this conversation in the first place. I'm confused about this. The Handbook says to track -STABLE, if errr... you want stability. Are you saying that in order to have a stable system, we should stick with -RELEASE? Maybe remove the -STABLE branch then? -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 15:52:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD5537B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:52:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5BN2IP04133; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:02:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200106112302.f5BN2IP04133@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: David McNett Cc: mixtim@home.com, rjackson@cs.csubak.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:44:34 CDT." <20010611174434.A16013@dazed.slacker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:02:18 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On 11-Jun-2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > Hmmm. It seems like this thread has degraded to simple > > project-bashing so I'll not be a party to keeping it on life support > > any longer. > > I don't think this is the case at all. For whatever it's worth, it > doesn't appear that the stability of -stable is the same priority it > used to be. It's hardly project-bashing to raise concerns of this > nature on the -stable mailing list. When the concerns are unsubstantiated, and in fact just plain wrong, then yes, it becomes plain project-bashing. To answer the original questions: no, there has been no degradation of concern over the stability of -stable recently, nor are there any plans for such a thing to happen. There have been a few mishaps, as can be expected in any engineering project, and they're being dealt with as best and expediently as they can be. Please consider the amount of work being put in to ensure that -stable isn't broken on a regular basis, and contrast this against the amount of work going on there in general and the relatively small amount of breakage that does occur. No, it's not nice when it happens, but folks, the problem you're panicking about simply doesn't exist. 8) The sky isn't falling, ok? If you want to help improve the stability of -stable, the right way is to get involved in the feedback process. Regards, Mike -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 16: 4:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.databits.net [207.29.192.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 229D937B407 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:04:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petef@hex.databits.net) Received: (qmail 71235 invoked by uid 1001); 11 Jun 2001 23:04:43 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:04:43 -0400 From: Pete Fritchman To: Juha Saarinen Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Message-ID: <20010611190443.B70538@databits.net> References: <20010611153217J.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from juha@saarinen.org on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:51:31AM +1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ++ 12/06/01 10:51 +1200 - Juha Saarinen: | I'm confused about this. The Handbook says to track -STABLE, if errr... | you want stability. Are you saying that in order to have a stable system, | we should stick with -RELEASE? | Perhaps the handbook should be updated then. If you want maximum "stability", you should track -STABLE. But not blindly.. don't cvsup to the latest code and {build,install}world on all your production machines without catching up on the mailing list. If you find a problem, report it for the benefit of others so they won't run into the same problem (because they should be tracking the mailing list). When you report a problem, remember this isn't a commercial entity, but a volunteer project and that a 6-hour turnaround time is pretty decent. It's not a life-or-death issue.. it's not like -stable was broken and nobody knew about it (I mean, when it broke, nobody knew about it.. but someone found it and reported it to stable@). On my production systems, I'll cvsup src/, and then wait a couple days to see if anybody reports big bugs/etc on stable@. Or, I'll just make world on one of my workstations and see if I notice anything broken. If, after a few days, everything looks good, I'll go ahead and make world on the production servers. If you want to keep your production systems in production, be smart about upgrading. -pete [who was thinking about making some analogy to IOS, but I'm too lazy to type up one of the many nightmares that resulted from IOS upgrades when we didn't look for bug reports/etc] -- Pete Fritchman Databits Network Services, Inc. finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 16:18:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2963737B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:18:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5BNILt07221; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:18:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: juha@saarinen.org Cc: mixtim@home.com, rjackson@cs.csubak.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? In-Reply-To: References: <20010611153217J.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010611161820O.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:18:20 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 21 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Juha Saarinen Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:51:31 +1200 (NZST) > I'm confused about this. The Handbook says to track -STABLE, if errr... > you want stability. Are you saying that in order to have a stable system, > we should stick with -RELEASE? The handbook also says: Warning: The FreeBSD-STABLE tree endeavors, above all, to be fully compilable and stable at all times, but we do occasionally make mistakes (these are still active sources with quickly-transmitted updates, after all). We also do our best to thoroughly test fixes in FreeBSD-CURRENT before bringing them into FreeBSD-STABLE, but sometimes our tests fail to catch every case. Which means that you shouldn't track it if you have no tolerance for such things. That's what -releases are for. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 16:23: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.ca (epsilon.lucida.ca [209.47.215.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D03437B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:23:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@LUCIDA.CA) Received: (qmail 99924 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Jun 2001 23:23:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jun 2001 23:23:03 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:23:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: , , , Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? In-Reply-To: <20010611161820O.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: <20010611192126.V99124-100000@epsilon.lucida.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: ... : Which means that you shouldn't track it if you have no tolerance for : such things. That's what -releases are for. Or what the new security release only tag (RELENG_4_3) is for :) I imagine that it would be more appropriate for those unwilling to understand the risks and practices involved in tracking -stable on production machines. * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@LUCIDA.CA http://www.lucida.ca/gpg * * GPG fingerprint - 53CA 8320 C8F6 32ED 9DDF 036E 3171 C093 4AD3 1364 * The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest. -- G'Kar, "Survivors" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.ca/gpg iD8DBQE7JVLXMXHAk0rTE2QRAgVmAKCEbnKq2eAO6okI6UVFCn72ScGXaACcC6fx sZBByOVZpa2L4ZfBCY7FUlw= =73Xm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 16:32:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snoop.burghcom.com (burgcom.cust.stargate.net [209.166.166.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 27C8537B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:32:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jl@burghcom.com) Received: (qmail 52670 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2001 23:32:33 -0000 Received: from host207.64-31-3.bignet.net (HELO gate) (64.31.3.207) by snoop.burghcom.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2001 23:32:33 -0000 Message-ID: <00a201c0f2ce$c955c4c0$010aa8c0@burgh.net> From: "Jeff Love" To: References: <20010611172443.A18552@home.com> Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:32:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I run a test server comparable to my production server. I ALWAYS test my upgrades on the test server before compiling the same src in production. IMHO, it would be quite foolish to do otherwise. Jeff Love Burgh-Com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mixtim" To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:24 PM Subject: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? > Several times in the last few weeks people have broken the STABLE branch, > sometimes for days at a time. Why has this started happening? Is there no > process to prevent this from happening? > > I have a wild idea. How about making everyone who commits to the STABLE > branch actually: > > 1. Checkout a clean copy. > 2. make buildworld. > 3. Actually test the programs they changed. > > These three steps would have prevented each of the problems in the last few > weeks. Does no one test anymore? Is no one required to test? > > Perhaps a process should be put into place. (unless there already is one in > which case someone should start cracking the whip over some backs). > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 16:38:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2934E37B405 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:38:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mixtim@home.com) Received: from cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com ([65.2.79.221]) by femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010611233851.ADX24283.femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com>; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:38:51 -0700 Received: (from mixtim@localhost) by cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5BNcoR19525; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:38:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mixtim) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:38:50 -0400 From: Mixtim To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Message-ID: <20010611193850.A19462@home.com> References: <3B25405D.2090209@cs.csubak.edu> <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010611181632.A19118@home.com> <20010611153217J.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611153217J.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:32:17PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:32:17PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Finally, let's not forget that nobody is FORCING you to run -stable. > In fact, users in your category are always recommended to stick with > the releases and not upgrade until a new one comes out so I'm not > even sure why we're having this conversation in the first place. I apologize if it appeared as though I was attempting to bash someone. I was trying to make a suggestion - sorry if it came out the wrong way. If you are happy with the process then so be it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 16:41:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.nextlevelinternet.com (ns1.nextlevelinternet.com [63.210.161.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921FC37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:41:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from haydenk@nextlevelinternet.com) Received: from laptop ([64.154.93.18]) by ns1.nextlevelinternet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA29184 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:37:48 -0700 From: "Hayden Katzenellenbogen" To: Subject: Enough Idle banter Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:40:48 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG All I would like to know is .... Is the build broken or am I just doing something stupid that if I was a committer I would know.... Mistakes happen and well that is the way of the world.... Stop fighting about the problem and help work on a solution.... Both sides of this are right... BSD is a great operating system it has served me well in the past 4 years and will continue to I am sure but along the way it will need to stop and be greased. Hayden Hayden Katzenellenbogen haydenk@nextlevelinternet.com NextLevel Internet 858-622-8512 http://www.nextlevelinternet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 16:58:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F86637B403 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:58:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5BNv9t23217; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:57:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: rjackson@cs.csubak.edu Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? In-Reply-To: <3B254497.4090001@cs.csubak.edu> References: <3B25405D.2090209@cs.csubak.edu> <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <3B254497.4090001@cs.csubak.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010611165709D.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:57:09 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 15 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Russell Jackson Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:22:15 -0700 > I have no non-standard build flags; I have no modifications. I just > cvsup'ed yet again, and now it errors at pam instead of perl. It seems > to be breaking earlier and ealier. Sorry for the delay in answering - it took me a little while to blow my source tree away and check out a fresh copy. It looks like Mark inadvertently abused CLEANFILES - just the "clean" target was broken, and he probably only tested the build and install targets. I've just fixed it. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 16:58:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poontang.schulte.org (poontang.schulte.org [209.134.156.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30AF37B409 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:58:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Received: from schulte-laptop.schulte.org (nb40.netbriefings.com [64.183.199.40]) by poontang.schulte.org (8.12.0.Beta10/8.12.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id f5BNwYjU003364; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:58:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010611183903.03ae00e0@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:57:18 -0500 To: Mixtim From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010611193850.A19462@home.com> References: <20010611153217J.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <3B25405D.2090209@cs.csubak.edu> <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010611181632.A19118@home.com> <20010611153217J.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm finding RELENG_4_3 to be a nice balance between the somewhat staleness of a -RELEASE and the (at times) possible slight breakage of a -STABLE. Production servers by nature are most concerned with security patches; they don't need new bells and whistles because they're already up and doing their job. The more that changes, the greater chance for problems. It's between -RELEASEs that I'll generally evaluate new features/bugfixes and decide if an upgrade is appropriate for my environment. RELENG_4_3 is *almost* the -STABLE that I've been looking for. All I'd like to see is perhaps critical bug fixes, without all the new features and barrage of MFCs which are usually the cause of complaints. It's nice to have choices as to the granularity of updates. -CURRENT -STABLE and -RELENG_4_X (-PATCH?). BTW: this viewpoint is from a stable server environment, I'm not suggesting that -STABLE and friends should be depreciated. Each branch has its pros and cons. Use whatever best suits your specific needs. Informed choices are the key to success. --chris At 07:38 PM 6/11/2001 -0400, you wrote: >On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:32:17PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > Finally, let's not forget that nobody is FORCING you to run -stable. > > In fact, users in your category are always recommended to stick with > > the releases and not upgrade until a new one comes out so I'm not > > even sure why we're having this conversation in the first place. > >I apologize if it appeared as though I was attempting to bash someone. I was >trying to make a suggestion - sorry if it came out the wrong way. > >If you are happy with the process then so be it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 17: 3:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A43E37B405 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:03:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5C03b277062; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:03:37 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010611172443.A18552@home.com> References: <20010611172443.A18552@home.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:03:32 -0400 To: Mixtim , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 5:24 PM -0400 6/11/01, Mixtim wrote: >Several times in the last few weeks people have broken >the STABLE branch, sometimes for days at a time. Why has >this started happening? Is there no process to prevent >this from happening? You say "started happening", as if it has never happened before. Unfortunately, there are times when stable does not build. No one intends this, and many committers work very hard trying to avoid it. They are no happier about it than you are, as they are probably building stable (or trying to...) more often than the average user. Still, we have not reached the state of perfection yet, and unfortunately things break from time-to-time. Things go good for awhile, and then we have a run of several changes which happen to break stable. That does not mean anyone has stopped trying, it just means that "shit happens". As a human being on God's green earth, you are inevitably faced with a lot of areas where "shit happens". Why would you not expect the occasional slip-up on an operating system which is provided to you for basically nothing? >I have a wild idea. How about making everyone who commits >to the STABLE branch actually: > > 1. Checkout a clean copy. > 2. make buildworld. > 3. Actually test the programs they changed. And guess what. That won't find all the problems. That is a fact of life. Sometimes you change a program, and the program you CHANGE works fine, it's some OTHER program which you did NOT change which stops working. I think one of the recent breakages was due to someone making a change to freebsd-current, not realizing it would have ANY affect AT ALL on freebsd-stable. So, basically, you have to remember to test all the programs you are not changing, in addition to the ones you are changing. I believe this goes by the name of "regression testing". Yes, it would be very nice to do. No, it is not easy to do. It is very time-consuming to do a good job at it. It requires a lot more work than someone sitting down and writing a sarcastic 3-point list. I'm sure I could trivialize your life into a three-point list if I had the desire to. >These three steps would have prevented each of the problems >in the last few weeks. Does no one test anymore? Is no one >required to test? Your first sentence is not true. As to your two questions, committers are expected to test, but that doesn't mean they manage to test all possible permutations. This project simply does not have the resources (in people and machines) to do that. If this bothers you, I'm afraid you'll have to go searching to some other operating system. Let me know when you find the perfect OS, because I certainly would rather work on a perfect OS than any of the six-to-ten OS's that I currently work on. To give you an idea of how much work can go into a change, I recently made a two-line change to /bin/sh. Two lines of actual code, plus maybe another eight lines of comments. I, personally, spent more than twelve hours testing those two lines of code. I also asked for input for others. And when I finally committed it, the only complaint I got from any other developers was that I had not tested it ENOUGH. In some respects that was true, but there was also tiny issue that I can not afford to spend more than six hours per line of code that I contribute to freebsd. [mind you, it is still true that no one has found any actual problem with those two lines of code. It's just that they would have felt more comfortable if there had been additional testing on it -- and that was for a change going into -current] Most developers take quality control as seriously as they can afford to, given their own time constraints. They take a lot of pride in the work they do, and they do want to be known for doing the best job possible, and for developing the best operating system available. >Perhaps a process should be put into place. (unless there >already is one in which case someone should start cracking >the whip over some backs). It is funny how often it is the non-contributors who are eager to start "cracking some whips" on the backs of people who are providing you a system for free. When I worked those twelve hours testing two lines of code, you did not pay ME a single dime. You have not paid a single cent towards the hardware that I use for developing freebsd on. Perhaps you paid $30 for the CD that someone pressed for you. None of that money goes to me. In fact, I also pay for my own freebsd CD's, even though I don't need the CD's for the work I do. What "whip" do you fantasize that you're going to crack on my back? You think I'm supposed to work "even harder" for you? Based on what? Because "you'd like it"? If you want a more-perfect system, then you should sit at releng_4_3 instead of releng_4. You do not seem to be in the right mindset for running stable, in which case the problem is that you are running the wrong branch of freebsd. Do not be surprised if very few developers look kindly on your comments. The reason developers (including me) will react so strongly is precisely that they DO care, and they DO work hard to avoid any breakage to -stable. Please be assured that no one is cavalier about any of the recent breakages. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 17:23:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A5037B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:23:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29074; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:23:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:23:10 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: juha@saarinen.org, mixtim@home.com, rjackson@cs.csubak.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Message-ID: <20010611172310.A28972@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <20010611153217J.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010611161820O.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010611161820O.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 04:18:20PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 04:18:20PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Warning: The FreeBSD-STABLE tree endeavors, above all, to be fully > compilable and stable at all times, but we do occasionally make > mistakes (these are still active sources with quickly-transmitted > updates, after all). We also do our best to thoroughly test fixes in > FreeBSD-CURRENT before bringing them into FreeBSD-STABLE, but > sometimes our tests fail to catch every case. >=20 > Which means that you shouldn't track it if you have no tolerance for > such things. That's what -releases are for. Is this the proper place to mention again the RELENG_4_3 branch? > - Jordan -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: P8pYsZMlR2k+Nxxi9QlPccYBp78Y8r3p iQA/AwUBOyVg64nljHhlkExeEQKz9gCgqIYMa7SRPqoN5h1rDrzyZsFdoWQAn0FF qfIvOjMT0OHtJXgKRF3lJ9ep =LlXi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 17:50:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA7C37B405 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:50:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 159cNq-00064P-00; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:50:14 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "'Garance A Drosihn'" , "'Mixtim'" , Subject: RE: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:49:54 +1200 Message-ID: <005001c0f2d9$9836ff20$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: Still, we have not reached the state of perfection yet, :: and unfortunately things break from time-to-time. I have to second Garance's sentiments here... it's not that bad, and I'm always impressed by the quick turnaround for fixes. Really not bad at all for a free OS... ;-) -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 19:24:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.kscable.com (fe1.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7177B37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:24:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rklosh@rkl.org) Received: from localhost ([65.26.173.69]) by mail1.kscable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:24:52 -0500 To: iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Oracle 8 for Linux on FreeBSD?? In-Reply-To: <20010611133930X.iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org> References: <20010610233028C.rklosh@rkl.org> <20010611133930X.iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on XEmacs 21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010611212450R.rklosh@rkl.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:24:50 -0500 From: Ryan K.Losh X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 24 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, iwasaki> iwasaki> Lack of shared memory? Please check your kernel config file out iwasaki> such as SHMMAXPGS, SHMMNI and SHMSEG. Also Semaphore related options. iwasaki> From the current /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/FOO file --------------Cut Here------------------------------ options SHMMAXPGS=10000 options SHMMNI=100 options SHMSEG=10 options SEMMNS=200 options SEMMNI=70 options SEMMSL=61 --------------Cut Here------------------------------ Values taken from "Oracle for linux on FreeBSD HOWTO" Ryan rklosh@rkl.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 19:41:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D16337B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:41:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5C2gnK32926 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:42:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:42:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: orbs In-Reply-To: <200106111655.f5BGtB921734@earth.backplane.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Matt Dillon wrote: > :> [...ORBS link in sendmail.mc...] > :> This link is obsolete. > : > :The status of the ORBS project is unknown. It might be revived, so don't > :go too fast. > > God I hope not. Let it die. We can replace it with a MAPS reference > (if there isn't already one there). One is evil, but the other is evil. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 19:51:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2597A37B408 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:51:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5C2rFK32944 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:53:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:53:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? In-Reply-To: <20010611190443.B70538@databits.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Pete Fritchman wrote: > When you report a problem, remember this isn't a commercial entity, > but a volunteer project and that a 6-hour turnaround time is pretty > decent. A 6-hour turnaround time is pretty frigging *AWESOME*, actually. I never cease to be amazed at the level of support there is for most open source software, given that no formal support agreement exists with the user base. By way of contrast, it took one of the larger software companies in the world more than three days to verify the sev. 1 I demonstrated to them (only after I handheld one of their engineers through porting the test case from HP-UX to their reference platform), and another 36 hours to deliver a fix, and that support literally cost a fortune. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 19:53:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C6637B410 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:53:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5C2tRK32958 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:55:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:55:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? In-Reply-To: <20010611161820O.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > I'm confused about this. The Handbook says to track -STABLE, if errr... > > you want stability. Are you saying that in order to have a stable system, > > we should stick with -RELEASE? > > The handbook also says: > > Warning: The FreeBSD-STABLE tree endeavors, above all, to be fully > compilable and stable at all times, but we do occasionally make > mistakes (these are still active sources with quickly-transmitted > updates, after all). We also do our best to thoroughly test fixes in > FreeBSD-CURRENT before bringing them into FreeBSD-STABLE, but > sometimes our tests fail to catch every case. > > Which means that you shouldn't track it if you have no tolerance for > such things. That's what -releases are for. Yep. Suggestion: committers hold off on commits for 30 minutes before and after midnight UTC, so that those who track stable can grab the tree as of midnight each night knowing that they didn't do so in the middle of a large commit. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 19:56:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966BE37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:56:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5C2wIK32965 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:58:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:58:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? In-Reply-To: <00a201c0f2ce$c955c4c0$010aa8c0@burgh.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Jeff Love wrote: > I run a test server comparable to my production server. I ALWAYS test my > upgrades on the test server before compiling the same src in production. > IMHO, it would be quite foolish to do otherwise. I always tar off /usr/src and /usr/obj before doing a cvsup. If it breaks, I can always boot my last (known good) kernel, restore the previous version, and install it. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 19:58:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C9137B403 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:58:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29178; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:27:58 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:27:57 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Chris BeHanna Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12-Jun-2001 Chris BeHanna wrote: > Suggestion: committers hold off on commits for 30 minutes before > and after midnight UTC, so that those who track stable can grab the > tree as of midnight each night knowing that they didn't do so in the > middle of a large commit. Except that only works if a) you grab the sources around UTC midnight, and b) the cvsup mirror (you are using a close mirror right :) has updated recently... --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 20: 4:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040A337B403 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:04:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5C35rK33000 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:05:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:05:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (I'm not trying to be a pest, really.) On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 5:24 PM -0400 6/11/01, Mixtim wrote: > > [...snip...] > [...snip...] > > >I have a wild idea. How about making everyone who commits > >to the STABLE branch actually: > > > > 1. Checkout a clean copy. > > 2. make buildworld. > > 3. Actually test the programs they changed. > > And guess what. That won't find all the problems. > [...snip...] > > So, basically, you have to remember to test all the programs > you are not changing, in addition to the ones you are changing. > I believe this goes by the name of "regression testing". Yes, > it would be very nice to do. No, it is not easy to do. It is > very time-consuming to do a good job at it. It requires a lot > more work than someone sitting down and writing a sarcastic > 3-point list. I'm sure I could trivialize your life into a > three-point list if I had the desire to. Good testing is at least as hard as developing the original software. To test software to developers' satisfaction requires the same resources that went into developing the software in the first place, and, preferably, the design is done in advance so that the testers can build their test suites in parallel with the actual source development. (And even this leaves aside developers writing their own low-level unit tests.) If you're dissatisfied, then step up to the plate and donate your time to build a test harness into which new tests (regression, integrated, system, etc.) can easily be placed. You might use gABI, SVVS, and/or eTET, or something completely different. Note that gABI and SVVS are *HUGE*, and represent many man-years of development. They were absolutely required for SysV porting partners to brand their products, and their existence was, in addition to verifying API and ABI compliance, for the purpose of regression testing. I'm sure plenty of developers would fire off an automated regression test suite if one existed. Building one is a nontrivial exercise (and is also viewed as unglamorous, unfortunately). And it *still* wouldn't catch all of the problems. :-( -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 20: 7:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B3137B405 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:06:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5C38aK33005 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:08:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:08:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On 12-Jun-2001 Chris BeHanna wrote: > > Suggestion: committers hold off on commits for 30 minutes before > > and after midnight UTC, so that those who track stable can grab the > > tree as of midnight each night knowing that they didn't do so in the > > middle of a large commit. > > Except that only works if a) you grab the sources around UTC midnight, You can tell cvsup to use a particular timestamp, no? (e.g., 2001.06.11.23.59.59) > and b) the cvsup mirror (you are using a close mirror right :) has > updated recently... One can wait for the update and still grab the appropriate snapshot via using a timestamp with cvsup or anoncvs. (Yes, I use a close mirror--whenever a new one is announced, I run a testmirrors script and use whomever is the fewest hops away. :-) -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 20: 9:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73C837B403 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:09:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29379; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:39:20 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:39:19 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Chris BeHanna Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12-Jun-2001 Chris BeHanna wrote: > > Except that only works if a) you grab the sources around UTC midnight, > You can tell cvsup to use a particular timestamp, no? > > (e.g., 2001.06.11.23.59.59) Good point.. In which case 1 hour is probably way too long.. 15 minutes would be fine. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 20:14:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9833D37B403 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:14:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4B42610F414; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:14:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:14:48 -0500 From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Message-ID: <20010611221448.N77570@leviathan.inethouston.net> Reply-To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Mail-Followup-To: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable References: <20010611161820O.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:55:27PM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: > Suggestion: committers hold off on commits for 30 minutes before > and after midnight UTC, so that those who track stable can grab the > tree as of midnight each night knowing that they didn't do so in the > middle of a large commit. I cvsup at 2am Central time with no probs, but if everyone did it at 2am central, it might be too busy for me to cvsup. -- David W. Chapman Jr. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 20:50:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4165337B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:50:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ian351c@home.com) Received: from cx543097a ([65.13.57.165]) by femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010612035042.QGUH12829.femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx543097a>; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:50:42 -0700 From: "Ian Cartwright" To: "Vivek Khera" , Cc: Subject: RE: does USB "Q" drive work on FreeBSD 4.3? Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:50:42 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <15141.15872.932345.499178@onceler.kciLink.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have one of those drives, but have not been successful in making it work yet. I haven't even plugged it into my FreeBSD system in over a month. I have heard that people have beeen having more luck with the "Thumb Drive" which is basically the same thing by a different company... Cheers, Ian > -----Original Message----- > From: Vivek Khera [mailto:khera@kciLink.com] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 2:54 PM > To: usb-bsd@eleetbsd.org > Cc: stable@freebsd.org > Subject: does USB "Q" drive work on FreeBSD 4.3? > > > Has anyone tried and/or succeeded in getting one of these keychain Q > drives to work on FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE? They seem like they'd be useful > for configuration and small data backups. > > http://www.agatetech.com/products_q.html > > I don't own one, but am interested in buying some. > > Thanks. > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. > Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 > AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 21: 3:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU (gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.edu [141.165.1.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D286E37B40C; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:03:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsi22419@gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU) Received: from localhost (gsi22419@localhost) by gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id AAA67950; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:02:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:02:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Dodson To: Mike Smith Cc: David McNett , mixtim@home.com, rjackson@cs.csubak.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? In-Reply-To: <200106112302.f5BN2IP04133@mass.dis.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > The sky isn't falling, ok? If you want to help improve the stability of > -stable, the right way is to get involved in the feedback process. > Is this not what's being done with threads such as this? -- scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 21:49:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.drkshdw.org (user4.net011.fl.sprint-hsd.net [207.30.203.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1E837B408 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:49:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scorpio@drkshdw.org) Received: (qmail 47111 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2001 04:49:35 -0000 Received: from h3u1-a2c897.elp.rr.com (HELO oemcomputer.drkshdw.org) (24.162.200.151) by user4.net011.fl.sprint-hsd.net with SMTP; 12 Jun 2001 04:49:35 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010611223530.01fcf0f0@jeff.isni.net> X-Sender: scorpio@jeff.isni.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:44:17 -0600 To: Mixtim , Jordan K.Hubbard From: Jeff Palmer Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010611181632.A19118@home.com> References: <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010611172443.A18552@home.com> <3B25405D.2090209@cs.csubak.edu> <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone who decides to build world and REQUIRES that the build work correctly the FIRST time, heed this advice. First, subscribe to, and read freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Second, sync your local sources today, and then FOLLOW the mailing list for 3-5 days BEFORE trying to build world. If anyone is complaining about failed builds, wait till the issue is resolved. sync your sources again, and wait a few more days following the lists. >If the only qualification code must meet for STABLE is that it compiles then >you should change the name. Lets not be petty here, ok? The -STABLE branch has been just fine, and will continue to be just fine if you follow the above advice. Anyone can sync their sources in the middle of a commiter uploading some new code changes. Also, the commiters are only human, yes there will be short breakages, but at least (generally) problems are fixed within hours of the first report. unlike SOME OS's where they know of bugs and wait 9-10 months before a (binary only) patch is released. Might I suggest, if you don't like the -STABLE moniker, feel free to grep through the sources, and change "-STABLE" to anything you'd like. It is open source after all. Just my thoughts on the subject, Jeff Palmer scorpio@drkshdw.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 0:10:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68E337B408 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:10:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5C7ADH38607; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:10:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:10:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106120710.f5C7ADH38607@earth.backplane.com> To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Jeff Love wrote: : :> I run a test server comparable to my production server. I ALWAYS test my :> upgrades on the test server before compiling the same src in production. :> IMHO, it would be quite foolish to do otherwise. : : I always tar off /usr/src and /usr/obj before doing a cvsup. If :it breaks, I can always boot my last (known good) kernel, restore the :previous version, and install it. : :-- :Chris BeHanna :Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) I usually cvsup the cvs tree itself from cron rather then /usr/src directly. That way I always have an up-to-date cvs tree and then I can simply cvs update /usr/src/ when I want to sync it up... and do a date based cvs update to get itb ack to a previous state if something goes horribly wrong. The cvs tree (/home/ncvs) eats around 1.2G (and is growing all the time), and of course the checked out source represents a lot of space too, and /usr/obj of course. But if you have a big drive it's worth tracking the cvs tree and learning enough cvs to be able to use cvs update. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 0:30:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.pilikia.net (ns1.pilikia.net [63.173.194.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3C437B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:30:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from art@pilikia.net) Received: from gecko (gecko.local.net [10.25.0.9]) by ns1.pilikia.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5C7TrQ20526 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:29:54 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from art@pilikia.net) Message-ID: <200106112129540460.11D1B51F@smtp> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.20.02.00 (3) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:29:54 -1000 Reply-To: art@pilikia.net From: "Arthur W. Neilson III" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: emailing a printer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS/NAI-uvscan-4.14 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Recently I was asked if FreeBSD could be used as a print server for email; i.e. sending email to a networked printer. The idea is to have email addresses for printers and be able to route mail to them for delivery on hardcopy. We have *many* printers and my initial idea of using /etc/mail/aliases i.e. helpdesk@boh.com: "| lpr 10.0.0.1" for example seems rather cumbersome and difficult to manage when you start adding them all up. Does anyone have recommendations for this? -- __ / ) _/_ It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. /--/ __ / Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, / (_/ (_<__ Instead of theories to suit facts. -- Sherlock Holmes, "A Scandal in Bohemia" Arthur W. Neilson III, WH7N - FISTS #7448 Bank of Hawaii Network Services http://www.pilikia.net art@pilikia.net, aneilson@boh.com, wh7n@arrl.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 1: 0: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com [171.69.24.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D86E37B407 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:00:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gehicks@cisco.com) Received: from mira1.cisco.com (mira1.cisco.com [171.71.208.193]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f5C804U19513 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (ptlm1-dhcp-102.cisco.com [171.71.210.102]) by mira1.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AFB03731; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B25CAEC.27AF9D30@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:55:24 -0700 From: W Gerald Hicks Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Scott Dodson wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > > > The sky isn't falling, ok? If you want to help improve the stability of > > -stable, the right way is to get involved in the feedback process. > > > > Is this not what's being done with threads such as this? > > -- > scott No. Threads like this are completely wasting the time of people who use it for its chartered purposes. The feedback process is centered on the proper use of send-pr. Truth is, this thread is a pulverised mass of dead horse flesh that has been beat for years by people expecting a free operating system to conform to some mental model they have formed in absence of what has actually been communicated by the project. Cripes people, the CVS repository is available for people to be able to slide back and forth in time as necessary. It only requires a tiny bit of competence. For fair effort on your part you also gain a fair amount of liberty along with a system that has literally made computing history in terms of stability. On top of that, it's free. Can this stupid thread please die now? Jerry Hicks gehicks@cisco.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 1: 1:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B0F37B407 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:01:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03180; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:31:33 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200106112129540460.11D1B51F@smtp> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:31:33 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: "Arthur W. Neilson III" Subject: RE: emailing a printer Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12-Jun-2001 Arthur W. Neilson III wrote: > Recently I was asked if FreeBSD could be used as a print server for > email; i.e. sending email to a networked printer. The idea is to have > email addresses for printers and be able to route mail to them for > delivery on hardcopy. We have *many* printers and my initial idea > of using /etc/mail/aliases i.e. helpdesk@boh.com: "| lpr 10.0.0.1" > for example seems rather cumbersome and difficult to manage when > you start adding them all up. Does anyone have recommendations > for this? Write a program in to parse the message and switch based on subject etc.. PS lots of potential security holes here :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 1:12:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.pilikia.net (ns1.pilikia.net [63.173.194.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03AE37B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:12:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from art@pilikia.net) Received: from gecko (gecko.local.net [10.25.0.9]) by ns1.pilikia.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5C8BsQ20755; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:11:58 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from art@pilikia.net) Message-ID: <200106112211590770.11F83F3B@smtp> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.20.02.00 (3) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:11:59 -1000 Reply-To: art@pilikia.net From: "Arthur W. Neilson III" To: "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: emailing a printer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS/NAI-uvscan-4.14 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Using the subject line might work well. Our legacy system has a proprietary mail software that is going away and we need to replace this email print functionality somehow :^) we have various batch jobs and form mail which currently send requests and reports to printers based on email addresses. I was just wondering how other datacenters handle this, we certainly can't be the first... On 6/12/01 at 5:31 PM Daniel O'Connor wrote: > >On 12-Jun-2001 Arthur W. Neilson III wrote: >> Recently I was asked if FreeBSD could be used as a print server for >> email; i.e. sending email to a networked printer. The idea is to have >> email addresses for printers and be able to route mail to them for >> delivery on hardcopy. We have *many* printers and my initial idea >> of using /etc/mail/aliases i.e. helpdesk@boh.com: "| lpr 10.0.0.1" >> for example seems rather cumbersome and difficult to manage when >> you start adding them all up. Does anyone have recommendations >> for this? > >Write a program in to parse the message and >switch based on subject etc.. > >PS lots of potential security holes here :) > >--- >Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer >for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au >"The nice thing about standards is that there >are so many of them to choose from." > -- Andrew Tanenbaum -- __ / ) _/_ It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. /--/ __ / Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, / (_/ (_<__ Instead of theories to suit facts. -- Sherlock Holmes, "A Scandal in Bohemia" Arthur W. Neilson III, WH7N - FISTS #7448 Bank of Hawaii Network Services http://www.pilikia.net art@pilikia.net, aneilson@boh.com, wh7n@arrl.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 1:12:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4972137B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:12:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id xfnbaaaa for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:11:30 +1000 Message-ID: <3B25CF6A.F871E2EE@quake.com.au> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:14:34 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: W Gerald Hicks Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? References: <3B25CAEC.27AF9D30@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG W Gerald Hicks wrote: > > > No. Threads like this are completely wasting the time of people who use > it for its chartered purposes. The feedback process is centered on the > proper use of send-pr. > > Truth is, this thread is a pulverised mass of dead horse flesh that has > been beat for years by people expecting a free operating system to > conform to some mental model they have formed in absence of what has > actually been communicated by the project. > > Cripes people, the CVS repository is available for people to be able to > slide back and forth in time as necessary. It only requires a tiny bit > of competence. For fair effort on your part you also gain a fair amount > of liberty along with a system that has literally made computing history > in terms of stability. On top of that, it's free. > > > Can this stupid thread please die now? Threads like this come up every few months, I just try to ignore them and hope they go away :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 1:14:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4653E37B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:14:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03382; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:44:34 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200106112211590770.11F83F3B@smtp> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:44:33 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: "Arthur W. Neilson III" Subject: RE: emailing a printer Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12-Jun-2001 Arthur W. Neilson III wrote: > Using the subject line might work well. Our legacy system has a > proprietary > mail software that is going away and we need to replace this email > print > functionality somehow :^) we have various batch jobs and form mail > which > currently send requests and reports to printers based on email > addresses. > I was just wondering how other datacenters handle this, we certainly > can't > be the first... True, well I think the script option would be pretty simple. It kind of depends on what kind of setup all of your people already expect to use.. If it's simple you can probably write a script to duplicate it in about 30 minutes :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 1:30:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us (madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us [24.124.26.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FC837B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:30:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-stable@boneyard.lawrence.ks.us) Received: from madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us (bsd-stable@madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us [24.124.26.25]) by madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5C8UQO93223; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:30:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bsd-stable@boneyard.lawrence.ks.us) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:30:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "Stephen D. Spencer" To: Pete Fritchman Cc: Juha Saarinen , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? In-Reply-To: <20010611190443.B70538@databits.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Pete Fritchman wrote: > Perhaps the handbook should be updated then. If you want maximum > "stability", you should track -STABLE. But not blindly.. don't cvsup to > the latest code and {build,install}world on all your production machines > without catching up on the mailing list. I was always under the impression that thoroughly testing a new installation (relative to whatever functionality the production server provides) was rather self-evident. I would seriously question the judgement of any admin that would do otherwise. Hardware is cheap and plentiful enough that this sort of thing cannot realistically be considered unrealistic! Having an extra Intel (or even Alpha) system available for testing is (imho) not terribly analogous to the idea of having an $X,000 Cisco router sitting on the table. It really isn't fair to point at open source OS projects in regards to the amount of care that should be taken upgrading production systems. Having tracked IRIX and Solaris, gratuitous installation of available patches are just as likely (or more) to hammer a production systems. Stephen Spencer | | "Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, | if it don't look like mutton again tomarrer" | -Bert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 3:22:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genesis.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E159C37B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:22:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@tao.org.uk) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 842A955F; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:22:19 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:22:19 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: j mckitrick Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with miniperl and make depend Message-ID: <20010612112218.B10614@tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , j mckitrick , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20010609064154.A96339@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010609064154.A96339@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>; from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org on Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 06:41:55AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Miniperl gets built in /usr/obj/.... when you do a buildworld. Anton Tobez has some ideas as to how to make this nicer, but for now you should get away with building miniperl by hand before whatever you're doing: # cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl # make obj && depend # make Joe On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 06:41:55AM +0100, j mckitrick wrote: >=20 >=20 > I just cvsupped tonight, and got this error while running make depend. > I have not built world lately, i've just been recompiling the kernel for > some driver tests. >=20 > It looks to me like the path to miniperl is wrong. It exists on my machi= ne, > but not in /usr/obj/usr/src !!! >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> gnu/usr.bin/ld > =3D=3D=3D> gnu/usr.bin/perl > =3D=3D=3D> gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl > =3D=3D=3D> gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl > =3D=3D=3D> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) > Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) > Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) > Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 5 subversion 3) configuration: > Platform: > osname=3Dfreebsd, osvers=3D4.0-current, archname=3Di386-freebsd > uname=3D'FreeBSD freefall.FreeBSD.org 4.0-current FreeBSD 4.0-current= #0: > $Dat > e$' > hint=3Drecommended, useposix=3Dtrue, d_sigaction=3Ddefine > usethreads=3Dundef useperlio=3Dundef d_sfio=3Dundef > Compiler: > cc=3D'cc', optimize=3D'', gccversion=3D2.95.2 19991024 (release) > cppflags=3D'' > ccflags =3D'' > stdchar=3D'char', d_stdstdio=3Dundef, usevfork=3Dtrue > intsize=3D4, longsize=3D4, ptrsize=3D4, doublesize=3D8 > d_longlong=3Ddefine, longlongsize=3D8, d_longdbl=3Ddefine, longdblsiz= e=3D12 > alignbytes=3D4, usemymalloc=3Dn, prototype=3Ddefine > Linker and Libraries: > ld=3D'cc', ldflags =3D'-Wl,-E -lperl -lm ' > libpth=3D/usr/lib > libs=3D-lm -lc -lcrypt > libc=3D, so=3Dso, useshrplib=3Dtrue, libperl=3Dlibperl.so.3 > Dynamic Linking: > dlsrc=3Ddl_dlopen.xs, dlext=3Dso, d_dlsymun=3Dundef, ccdlflags=3D' > -Wl,-R/usr/lib' > cccdlflags=3D'-DPIC -fpic', lddlflags=3D'-Wl,-E -shared -lperl -lm ' > /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../miniperl/miniperl:No such file = or > dire > ctory > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src/gnu. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src. > root:/usr/src# >=20 >=20 > jonathon > -- > A: "Herbs don't cleanse the blood, the liver cleanses the blood." > B: "Then maybe herbs cleanse the liver?" > A: "No, ALCOHOL cleanses the liver." >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjsl7VoACgkQXVIcjOaxUBYv4QCeLrVFpUrbPMdkLAJ7nz+qxMut ZL8AoNrmSjoC/AWvBtvY4RUO+I0BmlCS =HFuk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 3:24:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genesis.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A4937B407 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:24:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@tao.org.uk) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 107BD55F; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:24:22 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:24:22 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Juha Saarinen Cc: Kenneth Mays , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Improvements for FreeBSD v4.3.1-Release? Message-ID: <20010612112422.C10614@tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Juha Saarinen , Kenneth Mays , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from juha@saarinen.org on Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 09:55:00AM +1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 09:55:00AM +1200, Juha Saarinen wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Kenneth Mays wrote: >=20 > > 2. Journalling FS (what's the best one out there?) >=20 > XFS from SGI seems pretty good, and the guys could do with some support > and recognition -- http://oss.sgi.com I know for a fact that Adrian Chadd has that in pieces on a boiler plate, but doesn't appear to have enough time to get it working at the moment. It's worth speaking to him (adrian@FreeBSD.org) if anyone wants to help out. Joe --7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjsl7dYACgkQXVIcjOaxUBbDTgCfQdiH7zu821ZmfDRgaYCOCgqg 6SQAn2ch2ym+HKvhPl0sNUO8CrrRg6DP =yNhI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 3:38:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEBB37B403; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:38:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.1]) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 159lYp-0006QA-00; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:38:11 +1200 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:38:11 +1200 (NZST) From: Juha Saarinen To: Josef Karthauser Cc: Kenneth Mays , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , Subject: Re: Improvements for FreeBSD v4.3.1-Release? In-Reply-To: <20010612112422.C10614@tao.org.uk> Message-ID: X-S: Always MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Josef Karthauser wrote: > I know for a fact that Adrian Chadd has that in pieces on a boiler > plate, but doesn't appear to have enough time to get it working at the > moment. It's worth speaking to him (adrian@FreeBSD.org) if anyone wants to > help out. On that note, I asked the SGI crowd about XFS for FreeBSD. They are concerned about R&D "leeching" (namely from big vendors with names that begin with "M", "S" and "W" ;-)) but there was some interest in porting it. -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 3:59:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from home.cg.nu (home.cg.nu [213.196.2.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B7337B409; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:59:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from henk@home.cg.nu) Received: from kpnlep (netfreak.xs4all.nl [213.84.69.96]) by home.cg.nu (Postfix) with SMTP id 15EDF158FB2; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:59:47 +0200 (CEST) From: "Henk Wevers" To: , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: OpenLDAP 2 support in PORTS Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:59:46 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ports mantainers, If you make a port with OpenLDAP support, could you plase make an extra option to support OpenLDAP2?, every port with OpenLDAP support i did see only hase OpenLDAP1 support. Thanks in advance. Henk Wevers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 4:10: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genesis.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D411F37B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:09:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@tao.org.uk) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 9276355F; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:09:58 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:09:58 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Eric Parusel Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD core team needs your help Message-ID: <20010612120958.G10614@tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Eric Parusel , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20010608134705.19635.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com> <004001c0f030$36a0d3e0$0600020a@frontend> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NY6JkbSqL3W9mApi" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <004001c0f030$36a0d3e0$0600020a@frontend>; from lists@globalrelay.net on Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 08:32:23AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --NY6JkbSqL3W9mApi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 08:32:23AM -0700, Eric Parusel wrote: > > > A journalling FS for those people who just hate waiting for a > couple > > > of > > > TB of slow disks to fsck? > > > > Does ReiserFS work with FreeBSD? >=20 > >From what I've read, XFS is quite good as well.... (Whether or not it > could ever work with *BSD, I don't know) Apparently XFS would run better on FreeBSD than on Linux, from what Adrian told me. This is because linux apparently channels all I/O through 512k buffers whereas XFS uses larger buffers to get it's speed. FreeBSD's buffer cache doesn't have the same limitations that Linux's does. Joe --NY6JkbSqL3W9mApi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjsl+IUACgkQXVIcjOaxUBZbWACgmFzsQg4JELUtWuqvWY0uqvUM Uc8AoOqJn3/eNTOwbCbOww6YB7YmWQJb =cug6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NY6JkbSqL3W9mApi-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 5:22: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alligator.wananchi.com (alligator.wananchi.com [62.8.64.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CD837B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:21:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nugundam@nerv.nu) Received: from root by alligator.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 159n9X-00017L-00; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:20:11 +0300 Received: from [209.198.248.2] (helo=siafu.iconnect.co.ke) by poeza.iconnect.co.ke with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14b5vh-0001nn-00 for wash@poeza.iconnect.co.ke; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 22:18:29 +0300 Received: from [212.22.161.3] (helo=ns2.iconnect.co.ke) by siafu.iconnect.co.ke with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14b5r7-000E3u-00 for wash@iconnect.co.ke; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:13:45 +0300 Received: from amavis by ns2.iconnect.co.ke with scanned-ok (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14b5ss-000CNh-00 for wash@iconnect.co.ke; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 22:15:34 +0300 Received: from cx639627-c.irvn1.occa.home.com ([24.0.209.134] helo=mail.nerv.nu) by ns2.iconnect.co.ke with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14b5so-000CB9-00 for wash@iconnect.co.ke; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 22:15:31 +0300 Received: (from nugundam@localhost) by mail.nerv.nu (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f28JEeT37195; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:14:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nugundam) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:14:40 -0800 From: "Joseph T. Lee" To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: FBSD-STABLE Message-ID: <20010308111440.A37112@ICEwood.nerv.nu> References: <20010308193619.C4110@poeza.iconnect.co.ke> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010308193619.C4110@poeza.iconnect.co.ke>; from wash@iconnect.co.ke on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 07:36:19PM +0300 Subject: Re: microuptime issues Status: RO X-Status: A Lines: 15 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 07:36:19PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I cvsupped today and did a complete and successful rebuild but on one > system where I had APM enabled in the kernel with 'device apm' I ended > up getting hunderds of msgs with 'microuptime() went....' Is your kern.timecounter.method in sysctl set to 1? If so, try setting it to 0. It helped me on my laptop. -- Joseph nugundam =best=com==/==\=IIGS=/==\=Playstation=/==\=Civic HX CVT=/==\ # Anime Expo 2000 >> www.anime-expo.org/ > # FreeBSD: The Power to Serve >> www.freebsd.org > # The Ultimate Online Speed-Shop >> www.racesearch.com / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 6:18:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from heechee.tobez.org (254.adsl0.ryv.worldonline.dk [213.237.10.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D9D37B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tobez@tobez.org) Received: by heechee.tobez.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1EF735422; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:18:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:18:41 +0200 From: Anton Berezin To: Josef Karthauser Cc: j mckitrick , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with miniperl and make depend Message-ID: <20010612151841.C92811@heechee.tobez.org> Mail-Followup-To: Anton Berezin , Josef Karthauser , j mckitrick , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20010609064154.A96339@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010612112218.B10614@tao.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010612112218.B10614@tao.org.uk>; from joe@tao.org.uk on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 11:22:19AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 11:22:19AM +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: > Miniperl gets built in /usr/obj/.... when you do a buildworld. Anton > Tobez has some ideas as to how to make this nicer, but for now you > should get away with building miniperl by hand before whatever you're > doing: > > # cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl > # make obj && depend > # make It is even worse than that; miniperl should be installed in /usr/bin before once can build stand-alone perl. :-( Builworld works just fine, though, since miniperl is in the buildtools. Cheers, %Anton. -- May the tuna salad be with you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 6:35:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genesis.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDDE37B408 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:35:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@tao.org.uk) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 19575566; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:35:51 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:35:51 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Anton Berezin , j mckitrick , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with miniperl and make depend Message-ID: <20010612143550.P10614@tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Anton Berezin , j mckitrick , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20010609064154.A96339@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010612112218.B10614@tao.org.uk> <20010612151841.C92811@heechee.tobez.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YzdYn+D7cUqe+VA3" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010612151841.C92811@heechee.tobez.org>; from tobez@tobez.org on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 03:18:41PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --YzdYn+D7cUqe+VA3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 03:18:41PM +0200, Anton Berezin wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 11:22:19AM +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > Miniperl gets built in /usr/obj/.... when you do a buildworld. Anton > > Tobez has some ideas as to how to make this nicer, but for now you > > should get away with building miniperl by hand before whatever you're > > doing: > >=20 > > # cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl > > # make obj && depend > > # make >=20 > It is even worse than that; miniperl should be installed in /usr/bin > before once can build stand-alone perl. :-( Builworld works just fine, > though, since miniperl is in the buildtools. Did you get a moment to try any of the idea that we discussed at the UK BBQ? Joe --YzdYn+D7cUqe+VA3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjsmGrYACgkQXVIcjOaxUBasJACgoVSfroGWgy863LqiA6XXsQxR Y3MAnR9NBWMnqcDc+N9TzZY4p5p2d49B =iEgS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YzdYn+D7cUqe+VA3-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 6:48:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sirius.pbegames.com (sirius.pbegames.com [206.139.252.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8096437B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:48:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas@pbegames.com) Received: from leviathan.pbegames.com (66-44-12-171.s679.apx2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [66.44.12.171]) by sirius.pbegames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA34778 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:48:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from thomas@pbegames.com) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010612091659.0227f920@pbegames.com> X-Sender: thomas@pbegames.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:47:21 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Mark Thomas Subject: Drive disaster recovery Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I think I've managed to do something incredibly stupid here. This AM I moved an Adaptec 2940U adapter over to my 4.2S FBSD development machine with the intent of using a SCSI Jaz for backups. I also moved over a SCSI drive which is configured as a bootable 3.2S FBSD drive. The original system had a single 10GB IDE drive running a close to default partitions (/ /var swap /usr). The first time I rebooted with the new hardware I accidentally booted off of the old SCSI drive. I hit reset (ick), turned off the BIOS on the SCSI controller and rebooted from the IDE. This time the machine booted off of the correct drive, but reported problems with ad0s1f (/usr). I'm fairly sure the old 3.2S SCSI drive was installed dangerously dedicated. I MAY have answered Y to a fsck prompt here concerning /dev/ad0s1f. :( I would REALLY like to recover data from this partition (Note to self: backup before adding hardware, especially when adding backup hardware). I've now pulled the SCSI drives off temporarily. I can boot into single user mode. Below is as much relevent information as I can come up with (typing by hand, so somewhat truncated). If anyone has any method for recovering this data, I would greatly appreciate the help! Any further information I can provide, just ask. dmesg: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Mon Feb 12... CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (400 ...) ... ahc0: ... ad0: 9641MB [19590/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using PIO4 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI... Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a ad0: raw partition size != slice size ad0: start 63, end 8385929, size 8385867 ad0c: start 63, end 19746719, size 19746657 ad0: truncating raw partition ad0: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice ad0: start 63, end 8385929, size 8385867 adf0: start 1458239, end 19746719, size 18288481 fixlabel: raw partition size > slice size fsck -n: ** /dev/ad0s1f (NO WRITE) CANNOT READ: BLK 16 CONTINUE? yes THE FOLLOWING DISK SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 /dev/ad0s1f: NOT LABELED AS A BSD FILE SYSTEM (unused) (All other partitions OK) disklabel -r /dev/rad0c: type: ESDI disk: ad0s1 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 16 sectors/cylinder: 1008 cylinders: 19589 sectors/unit: 19746657 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 204800 63 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (cyl. 0*-203*) b: 1048576 204863 swap # (cyl. 203*-1243*) c: 19746657 63 unused 0 # (cyl. 0*-19589*) e: 204800 1253439 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (cyl. 1243*-1446*) f: 18288481 1458239 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (cyl. 1446*-19589*) partition c: partition extends past end of unit partition f: partition extends past end of unit Mark --- thomas@pbegames.com -------------> http://www.pbegames.com/~thomas Play by Electron Games ----------> http://www.pbegames.com [TM4463-ORG] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 6:49:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E231537B409 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:49:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr5.exu.ericsson.se (mr5u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.124]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5CDnca25941; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:49:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr5.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5CDnbV20071; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:49:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f5CDnZG00609; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:49:34 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id MY4P52W9; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:49:29 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Message-ID: <3B261DE1.5020706@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:49:21 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010607 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Let's also not forget that most commercial OS give updates by binary patches and do not give even the slightest possibility of compiling from source. AFAIK, the only thing that "broke" on -stable recently were the builds. You can't expect a CVS branch to always compile, period. A. Chris BeHanna wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Pete Fritchman wrote: > > >>When you report a problem, remember this isn't a commercial entity, >>but a volunteer project and that a 6-hour turnaround time is pretty >>decent. >> > > A 6-hour turnaround time is pretty frigging *AWESOME*, actually. > I never cease to be amazed at the level of support there is for most > open source software, given that no formal support agreement exists > with the user base. > > By way of contrast, it took one of the larger software companies > in the world more than three days to verify the sev. 1 I demonstrated > to them (only after I handheld one of their engineers through porting > the test case from HP-UX to their reference platform), and another 36 > hours to deliver a fix, and that support literally cost a fortune. > > -- -- La sémantique est la gravité de l'abstraction. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 6:52:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888A137B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:52:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA16958; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:52:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 12 Jun 2001 15:52:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris BeHanna writes: > A 6-hour turnaround time is pretty frigging *AWESOME*, actually. > I never cease to be amazed at the level of support there is for most > open source software, given that no formal support agreement exists > with the user base. It's simple. If we fuck up, we don't stand to lose our jobs - we stand to lose our pride, our reputation, our self-esteem and the respect of our peers. That's pretty good motivation. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 7:15:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sirius.pbegames.com (sirius.pbegames.com [206.139.252.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2565B37B407 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:15:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas@pbegames.com) Received: from leviathan.pbegames.com (66-44-12-171.s679.apx2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [66.44.12.171]) by sirius.pbegames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA34903 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:15:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from thomas@pbegames.com) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010612101207.02291ad0@pbegames.com> X-Sender: thomas@pbegames.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:15:46 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mark Thomas Subject: Re: Drive disaster recovery [additional info] In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010612091659.0227f920@pbegames.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG fdisk reports: parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=1229 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=1229 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 8385867 (4094 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; end: cyl 521/ sector 63/ head 254 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: Mark --- thomas@pbegames.com -------------> http://www.pbegames.com/~thomas Play by Electron Games ----------> http://www.pbegames.com [TM4463-ORG] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 7:21: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60DB37B405 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:20:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from evenson@panix.com) Received: from panix6.panix.com (panix6.panix.com [166.84.0.231]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F285748783; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:20:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from evenson@localhost) by panix6.panix.com (8.8.8/8.7.1/PanixN1.0) id KAA17147; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:20:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: panix6.panix.com: evenson set sender to evenson@panix.com using -f To: W Gerald Hicks Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? References: <3B25CAEC.27AF9D30@cisco.com> From: Mark Evenson Date: 12 Jun 2001 10:20:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: W Gerald Hicks's message of "Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:55:24 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0805 (Gnus v5.8.5) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG W Gerald Hicks writes: > Cripes people, the CVS repository is available for people to be able to > slide back and forth in time as necessary. It only requires a tiny bit > of competence. For fair effort on your part you also gain a fair amount > of liberty along with a system that has literally made computing history > in terms of stability. On top of that, it's free. Not true: anonymous CVS access to the FreeBSD tree has not been available for at least a couple years now. Or did I miss something? -- Mark Evenson "A screaming comes across the sky. It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare to it now." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 7:28:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.databits.net [207.29.192.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C38B37B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:28:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petef@hex.databits.net) Received: (qmail 85635 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Jun 2001 14:28:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:28:12 -0400 From: Pete Fritchman To: Mark Evenson Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Message-ID: <20010612102812.A85335@databits.net> References: <3B25CAEC.27AF9D30@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from evenson@panix.com on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:20:57AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ++ 12/06/01 10:20 -0400 - Mark Evenson: | Not true: anonymous CVS access to the FreeBSD tree has not been available | for at least a couple years now. Or did I miss something? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/anoncvs.html -- Pete Fritchman Databits Network Services, Inc. finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 7:43:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sgi04-e.std.com (sgi04-e.std.com [199.172.62.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3135037B405 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:43:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by sgi04-e.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA5270143 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18844; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:43:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:43:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200106121443.KAA18844@world.std.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RELNOTESng problems Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello -stable: With the recent move of RELNOTESng to -stable, what do we need to do to build/maintain this documentation along with source? For example, does {build,install}world take care of this? (Apparently not, but I'd appreciate The Official Word(tm). :) I tried going to /usr/src/release/doc & then "make" & I'm getting what appear to be build-errors. Attached are the last several output lines from that make. As per instructions in /usr/src/release/doc/README, I have built textproc/docproj from fresh -ports & additionally brought doc-all current. So, to restate my question: 1. How do I build/maintain -stable documentation? 2. How (where) do I go to look at said documentation? Commentary: While I think the move to RELNOTESng is probably a Good Thing, I think deletion/removal of the ascii-plaintext versions from src/release/texts/* is probably Not Such A Good Thing. Additionally, I "question" the necessity of requiring tools "outside" the base-OS solely for reading the relevant release notes/errata. My .02... Thanks, -kc -------------------- /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/hardware/alpha/../common/../alpha/proc-alpha.sgml:2675:12: start tag was here /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/hardware/alpha/../common/../alpha/proc-alpha.sgml:3038:9:E: end tag for "PARA" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/hardware/alpha/../common/../alpha/proc-alpha.sgml:2990:4: start tag was here *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/hardware/alpha. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/hardware. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release/doc. -------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 8:40:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr2.ericy.com (imr2.ericy.com [12.34.240.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9028C37B40C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:40:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr7.exu.ericsson.se (mr7att.ericy.com [138.85.92.15]) by imr2.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5CFe7809103; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:40:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr7.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5CFe6V17926; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:40:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f5CFe3G09989; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:40:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:40:04 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id MY4P5LPA; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:40:00 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B2637CA.9050803@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:39:54 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010607 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RELNOTESng problems References: <200106121443.KAA18844@world.std.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > Hello -stable: > > With the recent move of RELNOTESng to -stable, what do we need > to do to build/maintain this documentation along with source? IIRC, to build the relnotes now, you need to build a release, which is something I haven't had the resources (drive space and man-hours) to do since 2.2.6, which is when I discovered fbsd. :) > For example, does {build,install}world take care of this? > (Apparently not, but I'd appreciate The Official Word(tm). :) Nope. But then again, I'm no Official Whatever(tm). :) [snip] > So, to restate my question: > 1. How do I build/maintain -stable documentation? Again, I'm no Official Whatever, but I think you need a make release. However, the /usr/src/release/doc/README files does state that: If building the release notes "standalone" (in other words, not part of a release), it may be necessary (depending on the relative locations of the checked-out src/ and doc/ directories) to set the DOC_PREFIX Makefile variable to point to the top directory of the doc/ tree. For example: % make DOC_PREFIX=/usr/doc all Did you try that? > 2. How (where) do I go to look at said documentation? http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes/ As mentionned in /usr/src/releases/texts/README. > Commentary: > While I think the move to RELNOTESng is probably a Good Thing, > I think deletion/removal of the ascii-plaintext versions from > src/release/texts/* is probably Not Such A Good Thing. I totally agree with Kenneth here. I think that we should keep the rendered .TXT files in the cvs repository. Even if they're not exactly up to date, it's better than having nothing at all, or needing megabytes of third-party text processing code, just to have *text-only* release notes. Come on people, it can't be so hard to keep a copy of the rendered versions in the cvs? Asami does it for /usr/ports/INDEX, iirc. And no one complains if it's out of date. We just have to plaster a big WARNING in the readme saying that the files are not necessarly up to date... > Additionally, I "question" the necessity of requiring tools > "outside" the base-OS solely for reading the relevant release > notes/errata. Again, I agree here. Having these release notes is a pretty good hint of what's new or MFC'd in current or stable. I often use it to tell myself running -current is a good thing. (joking) ;) Seriously, now, in order to have relnotes, errata and hardware.txt on -stable or current, we need: * the -doc distro * the ports (from textproc/docproj): - textproc/sgmlformat - www/tidy - textproc/dsssl-docbook-modular - textproc/html - textproc/linuxdoc - textproc/docbook-310 - textproc/docbook-410 - textproc/iso8879 - graphics/eps2png - graphics/netpbm - www/links And these ports take a good while to build, on low-end machines. I don't want to hit on anyone's head with this, and I think that the move to relnotesNG is a really good one, cleanly accomplished. I just think having the .txt files rendered is a really simple thing to do for Global User Satisfaction (tm). Thanks for your time, and have a nice day. A. -- La sémantique est la gravité de l'abstraction. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 9:15: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from passat.pironet-ndh.com (passat.ndh.net [195.94.90.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD1537B408 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:14:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from t.seck@ndh.net) Received: from basildon (port2109.duesseldorf.ndh.net [195.227.37.109]) by passat.pironet-ndh.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17059 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:14:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from tmseck by basildon with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 159qo4-0000DZ-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:14:16 +0200 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:14:16 +0200 From: Thomas Seck To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELNOTESng problems Message-ID: <20010612181416.C735@basildon> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200106121443.KAA18844@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106121443.KAA18844@world.std.com>; from kwc@world.std.com on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:43:47AM -0400 Organization: private site in Germany X-PGP-KeyID: DF46EE05 X-PGP-Fingerprint: A38F AE66 6B11 6EB9 5D1A B67D 2444 2FE1 DF46 EE05 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Jun 12 2001, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > Hello -stable: > > With the recent move of RELNOTESng to -stable, what do we need > to do to build/maintain this documentation along with source? > For example, does {build,install}world take care of this? > (Apparently not, but I'd appreciate The Official Word(tm). :) > Well I am not the "official word", but: It is important that you update dsssl-docbook-modular to 1.64. I guess the build errors you are experiencing do result from having an older version (1.57?) installed. I had the same problem, updating helped. ReldocsNG then builds just fine, again a praise to bmah! Regards, Thomas Seck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 9:15:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com [171.70.157.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CAD737B411 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:14:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f5CGDMF16965; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5CGDdl27734; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:13:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106121613.f5CGDdl27734@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4+ 06/08/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELNOTESng problems In-Reply-To: <200106121443.KAA18844@world.std.com> References: <200106121443.KAA18844@world.std.com> Comments: In-reply-to Kenneth W Cochran message dated "Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:43:47 -0400." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1859110700P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:13:39 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_1859110700P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > With the recent move of RELNOTESng to -stable, what do we need > to do to build/maintain this documentation along with source? If you want to build a copy locally, install the textproc/docproj port and bring in the doc-all collection from current. You got that right as far as I can tell. > For example, does {build,install}world take care of this? > (Apparently not, but I'd appreciate The Official Word(tm). :) Well, I'm the guy who designed RELNOTESng, so I guess I count as "official" (?!?). buildworld/installworld doesn't do this. I didn't even consider this, because this would make buildworld and installworld take even longer than they do now. :-) > I tried going to /usr/src/release/doc & then "make" & I'm > getting what appear to be build-errors. Attached are the last > several output lines from that make. As per instructions in > /usr/src/release/doc/README, I have built textproc/docproj > from fresh -ports & additionally brought doc-all current. We're kind of at a strange state right now; RELNOTESng for 4-STABLE is broken (see my earlier heads-up) due to some other commits that took me rather by surprise. I hope it'll get fixed soon (I know how to fix it, but the fix depends on one or two decisions that are out of my hands.) I think I know what problem you're seeing, and I can fix it after this other (bigger) breakage gets fixed. I have no idea why earlier testing didn't catch this problem. Sorry about that! > So, to restate my question: > 1. How do I build/maintain -stable documentation? So far you seem to be doing the right thing. > 2. How (where) do I go to look at said documentation? When the build is done, you can point a Web browser at the subdirectorie s under /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/ and read the HTML files there. If you did the build with additional document FORMATS (i.e "make 'FORMATS=html pdf txt'") you'll see the other output files there as well. Alternatively you can just read the Web versions at: http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes/ The plan is for these to be moved into a more "official" spot on the FreeBSD web site and automatically generated along with the Web site build. > Commentary: > While I think the move to RELNOTESng is probably a Good Thing, > I think deletion/removal of the ascii-plaintext versions from > src/release/texts/* is probably Not Such A Good Thing. > Additionally, I "question" the necessity of requiring tools > "outside" the base-OS solely for reading the relevant release > notes/errata. Noted. We debated this at some length on -doc when I was working on it. The outcome of this debate was that we decided to put frequently-updated versions of the release notes on the Web site (the URL I gave above is a part of my testing process). I'd rather not rehash all the arguments for this...you can see them in the -doc archives. Bruce. --==_Exmh_1859110700P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7Jj+z2MoxcVugUsMRAqamAKCoQ5c7S84/4XOYoHbne2BOjSOe/wCgyLvf LEduyo5sgwOIQU+oxFWZL5c= =6TOb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1859110700P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 9:29:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com [171.69.24.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777E937B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:29:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f5CGTdU14800; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5CGTZF27955; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:29:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106121629.f5CGTZF27955@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4+ 06/08/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: Kenneth W Cochran , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELNOTESng problems In-Reply-To: <3B2637CA.9050803@lmc.ericsson.se> References: <200106121443.KAA18844@world.std.com> <3B2637CA.9050803@lmc.ericsson.se> Comments: In-reply-to "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" message dated "Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:39:54 -0400." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1895071772P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:29:35 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_1895071772P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If memory serves me right, "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" wrote: > IIRC, to build the relnotes now, you need to build a release, which is > something I haven't had the resources (drive space and man-hours) to do > since 2.2.6, which is when I discovered fbsd. :) You don't need to make a release. Please see the README file (which you quoted below). > I totally agree with Kenneth here. > > I think that we should keep the rendered .TXT files in the cvs > repository. Even if they're not exactly up to date, it's better than > having nothing at all, or needing megabytes of third-party text > processing code, just to have *text-only* release notes. How does the Web-available versions differ from putting the TXT rendering in the repository? The Web versions will (once the Web Gods make a couple of commits) get built as frequently as the Web site is. In the meantime, you can look at the version on my Web page. They're updated pretty often, on an unofficial basis. > Come on people, it can't be so hard to keep a copy of the rendered > versions in the cvs? Asami does it for /usr/ports/INDEX, iirc. And no > one complains if it's out of date. > > We just have to plaster a big WARNING in the readme saying that the > files are not necessarly up to date... Release notes that are that far out of date aren't useful. (No slam intended on asami...I don't think we need an INDEX file that tracks the ports collection as closely as we need release notes that track the source. Especially not with origin-aware ports.) > > Additionally, I "question" the necessity of requiring tools > > "outside" the base-OS solely for reading the relevant release > > notes/errata. > > > Again, I agree here. Having these release notes is a pretty good hint of > what's new or MFC'd in current or stable. I often use it to tell myself > running -current is a good thing. (joking) ;) If you depend on the release notes to know what's new, you'd want them to be up-to-date wouldn't you? > I don't want to hit on anyone's head with this, and I think that the > move to relnotesNG is a really good one, cleanly accomplished. Thanks. > I just think having the .txt files rendered is a really simple thing to > do for Global User Satisfaction (tm). I'm not opposed to the idea of making the release notes more accessible to people who can't (or don't want to) build the docproj tools. This isn't a problem. That's why we put versions on the Web (granted it could be a little better integrated, we're working on that). I just don't see the point of bloating the repository with the rendered versions. Bruce. --==_Exmh_1895071772P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7JkNv2MoxcVugUsMRAmaWAJ48I4CV3EUW/7d4w98wd3rnVcMrWgCg3h8N vkzsbvL2PSfwMOsMxVlB+Kc= =0Rpy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1895071772P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 9:32:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.snfc21.pbi.net (mta4.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCD537B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:32:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myers@veetwin.aedifice.net) Received: from veetwin.aedifice.net ([209.233.30.172]) by mta4.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0GET00439SIIIE@mta4.snfc21.pbi.net> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:29:11 -0700 From: "David C. Myers" Subject: 'make buildworld' fails on 4.3-release To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <3B264357.1C6C5F56@veetwin.aedifice.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks. Wanted to upgrade my 4.1-release system (installed from the Walnut Creek CDs on a virgin machine) to 4.3-release, so I downloaded the source packages and ran 'make buildworld'. Here's what I get, about 30 seconds into the process: cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -static -o gperf bool-array.o gen-perf.o hash-table.o iterator.o key-list.o list-node.o main.o new.o options.o read-line.o trace.o vectors.o version.o hash.o getopt.o getopt1.o getopt1.o: In function `getopt_long': getopt1.o(.text+0x1b): undefined reference to `_getopt_internal' getopt1.o: In function `getopt_long_only': getopt1.o(.text+0x3f): undefined reference to `_getopt_internal' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf. *** Error code 1 Ideas? My make.conf file is unchanged from the default. Thanks. -David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 9:49: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gactr.uga.edu (mail.gactr.uga.edu [128.192.37.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3E0737B408 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:48:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu) Received: (qmail 8359 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2001 11:48:51 -0000 Received: from qat.noc.nat (HELO gactr.uga.edu) ([10.10.100.125]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.servers.nat (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Jun 2001 11:48:51 -0000 Message-ID: <3B2647E0.E40A2339@gactr.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:48:32 -0400 From: "Robin P. Blanchard" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: gigabit woes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG we've tried both an intel (device xw) gig card as well as a 3com (device ti) card in a 4.3-STABLE box. the other end of the line is an extreme black diamond gig port. both ends are autoconfigured and the stats on the extreme show it's autoconfigured at 1000. so everything looks good. we are not seeing packet loss, either. unfortunately, our transfer rates are barely reaching 3MB/s. are there some options on the FreeBSD side we need to fiddle with to get this thing to do decent performance? thanks in advance. -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 10: 4:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA3137B407 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:03:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 582C05D79; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:03:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:03:45 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: "Robin P. Blanchard" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gigabit woes Message-ID: <20010612190345.A20019@skriver.dk> References: <3B2647E0.E40A2339@gactr.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B2647E0.E40A2339@gactr.uga.edu>; from Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:48:32PM -0400 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:48:32PM -0400, Robin P. Blanchard wrote: > we've tried both an intel (device xw) gig card > as well as a 3com (device ti) card in a 4.3-STABLE > box. the other end of the line is an extreme black > diamond gig port. both ends are autoconfigured > and the stats on the extreme show it's autoconfigured > at 1000. so everything looks good. we are not seeing > packet loss, either. unfortunately, our transfer > rates are barely reaching 3MB/s. Measured how ? Traffic transfered to/from which host ? Which protocol ? Which HW do you use on the FreeBSD machine > are there some options > on the FreeBSD side we need to fiddle with to get this > thing to do decent performance? sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536 sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1 And permanent echo "tcp_extensions=\"YES\"" >> /etc/rc.conf echo "net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536" >> /etc/sysctl.conf echo "net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536" >> /etc/sysctl.conf /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 10:15:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp.wanadoo.nl [194.134.193.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A0037B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:15:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p160.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.200.124]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5CHFIe12933; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:15:18 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:15:15 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Chris BeHanna Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Message-Id: <20010612191515.66f607d1.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Chris BeHanna wrote: CB> I'm sure plenty of developers would fire off an automated CB> regression test suite if one existed. Building one is a nontrivial CB> exercise (and is also viewed as unglamorous, unfortunately). They also take maintenance like any other kind of software. Some of the time when a test harness spits out a bucketload of error messages it is because the test is wrong (usually makes too many assumptions). I have also found bugs perpetuated by errors in regression test data on several occasions :( The weakest link in a regression test system is the test data generation. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 10:23: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (larry.euronet.nl [194.134.35.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1ED937B40E for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:22:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p1146.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.203.127]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5CHMmN22996; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:22:48 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:22:45 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Josef Karthauser Cc: lists@globalrelay.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD core team needs your help Message-Id: <20010612192245.4ce69cf3.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: <20010612120958.G10614@tao.org.uk> References: <20010608134705.19635.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com> <004001c0f030$36a0d3e0$0600020a@frontend> <20010612120958.G10614@tao.org.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:09:58 +0100 Josef Karthauser wrote: JK> On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 08:32:23AM -0700, Eric Parusel wrote: JK> > > > A journalling FS for those people who just hate waiting for a JK> > couple JK> > > > of JK> > > > TB of slow disks to fsck? JK> > > JK> > > Does ReiserFS work with FreeBSD? JK> > JK> > >From what I've read, XFS is quite good as well.... (Whether or not it JK> > could ever work with *BSD, I don't know) JK> JK> Apparently XFS would run better on FreeBSD than on Linux, from what Whatever happened to the open source release of JFS, or is JFS really bad ? -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 10:25:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr2.ericy.com (imr2.ericy.com [12.34.240.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A6D37B403; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:24:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr6.exu.ericsson.se (mr6att.ericy.com [138.85.92.14]) by imr2.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5CHOg827576; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:24:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr6.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5CHOer21525; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:24:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f5CHOdG17434; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:24:38 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id MY4P5N80; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:24:26 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Kenneth W Cochran , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B265047.4060605@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:24:23 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010607 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: OT: rendered copies of RelnotesNG in the tree (was: RELNOTESng problems) References: <200106121443.KAA18844@world.std.com> <3B2637CA.9050803@lmc.ericsson.se> <200106121629.f5CGTZF27955@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" wrote: > >>IIRC, to build the relnotes now, you need to build a release, which is >>something I haven't had the resources (drive space and man-hours) to do >>since 2.2.6, which is when I discovered fbsd. :) > > You don't need to make a release. Please see the README file (which > you quoted below). Yes. I should have put a "see below" or something like that in there. I read the README only after writing this para. >>I totally agree with Kenneth here. >> >>I think that we should keep the rendered .TXT files in the cvs >>repository. Even if they're not exactly up to date, it's better than >>having nothing at all, or needing megabytes of third-party text >>processing code, just to have *text-only* release notes. > > How does the Web-available versions differ from putting the TXT > rendering in the repository? Not much. But one might like to consider the idea of having the TXT files *implicitly* available along the source code (bundled), instead of as a "foreign" reference on a website. I can see many situations where one could not have access to the web but only acces to the local machine which contains the source code. Another thing which crosses my mind: when someone installs a RELEASE, the relnotes TXT/rendered versions come with it and are installed as part of the install process, right? What happens when the system is updated (cvsup/make world)? Do these files stay where they are? Then they're obsolete and should be removed. > The Web versions will (once the Web > Gods make a couple of commits) get built as frequently as the Web site > is. That's about once a day, if I'm not mistaken? How technically feasable would it be to have the TXT files rebuilt on the fly, after a commit on the related .sgml file? > In the meantime, you can look at the version on my Web page. They're > updated pretty often, on an unofficial basis. Assuming I have access to the web. :) That is of course considered irrelevent nowadays, but I find that still a considerable requisite to have access to notes so tightly integrated (or relevant? I miss the proper word) to the source... These things should all be bundled together. >>Come on people, it can't be so hard to keep a copy of the rendered >>versions in the cvs? Asami does it for /usr/ports/INDEX, iirc. And no >>one complains if it's out of date. >> >>We just have to plaster a big WARNING in the readme saying that the >>files are not necessarly up to date... > > Release notes that are that far out of date aren't useful. Actually, the release notes are *implicitly* out of date, since we have no formal/automated system of updating the relnotes when a major change is made. AFAIK, there is someone (you, Bruce?:) that updates them by watching cvs-all, but that is also an out of date process. OTOH, putting the TXT files in the repository would also add to the delay. > (No slam intended on asami...I don't think we need an INDEX file that > tracks the ports collection as closely as we need release notes that > track the source. Especially not with origin-aware ports.) [OT]: Indeed. What's more, I don't really recall using the INDEX file at all, recently. ;) No slam intended on our mighty port wraith either. :) >>>Additionally, I "question" the necessity of requiring tools >>>"outside" the base-OS solely for reading the relevant release >>>notes/errata. >>> >> >>Again, I agree here. Having these release notes is a pretty good hint of >>what's new or MFC'd in current or stable. I often use it to tell myself >>running -current is a good thing. (joking) ;) >> > > If you depend on the release notes to know what's new, you'd want them > to be up-to-date wouldn't you? Yes. But I would also like them to be conveniently available as a reference, if not completely up-to-date. If I want them up-to-date, I go see the sgml files or the cvs logs of these, because the rendered versions are implicitly out of date. But again, don't get angry, because: >>I don't want to hit on anyone's head with this, and I think that the >>move to relnotesNG is a really good one, cleanly accomplished. > > Thanks. > >>I just think having the .txt files rendered is a really simple thing to >>do for Global User Satisfaction (tm). > > I'm not opposed to the idea of making the release notes more accessible > to people who can't (or don't want to) build the docproj tools. This > isn't a problem. That's why we put versions on the Web (granted it > could be a little better integrated, we're working on that). I just > don't see the point of bloating the repository with the rendered > versions. See above. The only point I have is that I miss my good old TXT files and browsing the web is a pita, for me, and for various reasons. Also, there is my point of having the stale -RELEASE relnotes and errata lying around that could be a major hassle... And you also have a pretty good point there about bloating the repository. :) I guess my point has probably been made by other people on -doc, so I'll shut up now. Anyways, this is getting completely off-topic for the list (my fault). A. -- La sémantique est la gravité de l'abstraction. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 10:29:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gactr.uga.edu (mail.gactr.uga.edu [128.192.37.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F5C937B445 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:29:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu) Received: (qmail 11225 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2001 12:29:11 -0000 Received: from qat.noc.nat (HELO gactr.uga.edu) ([10.10.100.125]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.servers.nat (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Jun 2001 12:29:11 -0000 Message-ID: <3B265155.ACE63DEF@gactr.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:28:53 -0400 From: "Robin P. Blanchard" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jesper Skriver Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gigabit woes References: <3B2647E0.E40A2339@gactr.uga.edu> <20010612190345.A20019@skriver.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ok. currently in our dell poweredge 4350 there is a 3com 3c985b with alteon-2 chipset plugged into a 64-bit pci slot. the kernel is built to use the ti driver (with kernel NMBCLUSTERS set to 16896). this is directly connected to a gig port on our extreme black diamond. a basic ip test of ftping to a known functional gig interface (an SGI origin 2000 also directly attached to our black diamond -- the same test on this interface with a similar interface on a separate module of this SGI box yields 12.183MB/s) yields a mere 2.37MB/s. both the gig port on the black diamond and the nic in the freebsd box are auto-negotiating. relevant /etc/sysctl.conf: net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1 net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536 net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 net.inet.udp.sendspace=65536 net.inet.udp.recvspace=65536 relevant /etc/rc.conf: icmp_drop_redirect="YES" inetd_enable="NO" kern_securelevel_enable="NO" moused_enable="NO" nfs_client_enable="YES" ntpdate_enable="YES" ntpdate_flags="10.10.10.11" sendmail_enable="NO" sshd_enable="NO" tcp_drop_synfin="YES" tcp_extensions="YES" tcp_keepalive="YES" usbd_enable="NO" we get similarly poor performance if we swap the 3com with an intel. more performance tuning suggestions are extremely welcomed. thanks in advance. Jesper Skriver wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:48:32PM -0400, Robin P. Blanchard wrote: > > we've tried both an intel (device xw) gig card > > as well as a 3com (device ti) card in a 4.3-STABLE > > box. the other end of the line is an extreme black > > diamond gig port. both ends are autoconfigured > > and the stats on the extreme show it's autoconfigured > > at 1000. so everything looks good. we are not seeing > > packet loss, either. unfortunately, our transfer > > rates are barely reaching 3MB/s. > > Measured how ? > > Traffic transfered to/from which host ? > > Which protocol ? > > Which HW do you use on the FreeBSD machine > > > are there some options > > on the FreeBSD side we need to fiddle with to get this > > thing to do decent performance? > > sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536 > sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 > sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1 > > And permanent > > echo "tcp_extensions=\"YES\"" >> /etc/rc.conf > echo "net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536" >> /etc/sysctl.conf > echo "net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536" >> /etc/sysctl.conf -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 10:50:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tethys.valhalla.net (tethys.valhalla.net [195.26.32.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3827137B407 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:49:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.drayton@4thwave.co.uk) Received: by tethys.valhalla.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id A6D24340CA; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:49:58 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:49:58 +0100 From: Mark Drayton To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Message-ID: <20010612184958.B11577@tethys.valhalla.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <3B25CAEC.27AF9D30@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from evenson@panix.com on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:20:57AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Evenson (evenson@panix.com) wrote: > W Gerald Hicks writes: > > > Cripes people, the CVS repository is available for people to be able > > to slide back and forth in time as necessary. It only requires a > > tiny bit of competence. For fair effort on your part you also gain > > a fair amount of liberty along with a system that has literally made > > computing history in terms of stability. On top of that, it's free. > > Not true: anonymous CVS access to the FreeBSD tree has not been > available for at least a couple years now. Or did I miss something? The date=[cc]yy.mm.dd.hh.mm.ss option in cvsup configuration files (supfiles) allows you to specify an arbitrary date to update your source tree to. If -stable breaks, cvsup your sources to a date just before the tree got broken and build on that. Cheers, -- Mark Drayton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 10:57:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from search.sparks.net (search.sparks.net [208.5.188.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A52937B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:57:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmiller@sparks.net) Received: by search.sparks.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 04F58DB49; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:58:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by search.sparks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FB1DB48 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:58:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:58:16 -0400 (EDT) From: David Miller To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial port stuck at 9600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, David Miller wrote: > Hi All:) > > Is there a problem with setting serial port speeds in 4.3R? After digging through a couple of other "identical" systems, I've discovered that the only reason it worked at all was that the BIOS was configured with the com port on "auto". When set to be com1 at IRQ 4 it ceased to function at all, matching the other two systems. I've tracked the problem down to the port (ttyd0) not having DCD input. Using cuaa0 worked fine, so the serial port is OK. I checked the cable, and DCD is wired straight through (pin 1 on the 9 pin ports), so it's not the cable. I'm connecting with a serial port on another PC running freebsd and "cu -l /dev/cuaa0 or cu -l /dev/ttyd0". In both cases I get a connection message, but the remote end never responds. I slapped a breakout box on the end of the cable and confirmed that DCD is not being raised by cu. That means my question is: "When using a FreeBSD system as a console for another system, how do I raise DCD in order to establish a connection?" Clues welcomed:) --- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 11:13:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D6637B40E for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:13:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (Sturm@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5CIDIU18419 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:13:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:13:18 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Subject: FreeBSD - Linux curiosity Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs. Well, this is a small story about accusing FreeBSD to 'implant' a Linux-unreadable filesystem on a Samsung harddrive (ATA100). I'm the system's operator for a small set of servers running all FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE and we are using FreeBSD as our backbone for over 5 years now with great success and without any catastrophy, except several minor problems, like NFS tricks, but nothing that had not been solved withing one or two weeks for ALL FreeBSD users, so far a problem has been revealed as a bug. For our scientists it is necessary to be 'popular' and use the right operating system and therefore most of them want Linux, because they want it due the fact all others have it also. For this reason we got several new fast Intel based computers and two are based on a ABIT PC133 mainbord with the HighPoint 370 ATA100/RAID controller. One machine has been switched to Windows 2000 because the user needs Windows 2000 on this machine, but before, I installed FreeBSD 4.3-BETA and 4.3-RC for three times with great success and without any problem. Windows 2000 won't install itself due several problems with the HighPoint controller ... The second machine was the same: three times I installed FreeBSD from the ISO image CD without any problem ... The latter machine is to be a Linux machine now - but Linux (SuSE 7.0 and SuSE 7.1) won't install on the system (ABIT133) and after checking the compatibility list of SuSE's homepage we got the information that there are still several problems with the HighPoint RAID controller. The main problem of the Linux installation procedure was, that Linux recognized several uneraseable partitions, marked as "BSD" partition of strange sizes (partition / has a size of 1GB in blocks, but I installed a /-partition of 256 MB only ...). After using a radical DOS utility to repartition the harddisk the Linux loader told us the same and for the first time the guy from our computing center told us that this is a problem caused by FreeBSD - the evidence was given by the 'fdisk' from Linux showing BSD partitions ... huh??? Then we chenaged the mainboard after we read the compatibility list at SuSE's homepage. Now this system is equippted with a ASUS CUV4X-D mainboard with only one CPU at 1GHz - I run the same board with two 800EB CPUs under FreeBSD with a great success (but with a AMI MegaRAID Elite 1600 and a Adpaptec 2940UW SCSI subsystem, not ATA). The same guy from our computing center came back to reinstall Linux again - with no success, because Linux still reports massiv problems in reading or being unable to read the partition table of the disk. It seems there are still FreeBSD or any BSD typed partition remains. Well, I'm not a guru but it seems to me that a 'BSD' type partition is common such a way, that each unrecognized or scrambled partition is recognized as BSD type ... and Linux seems to have massive problems. FreeBSD could be installed without problems - but my chief-professor wants Linux, so FreeBSD is out of qualifying ... Well, I'm a little bit confused about that what happened, but by intuition, it seems to be a Linux problem. Does anyone ever heard about partition tables created by FreeBSD, caused another system to hang or crash while trying to format, repartition or low-level format the harddrive? Linux isn't able to repartition the harddrive! And the controller on the ASUS CUV4X-D is a VIA chip, not a HighPoint RAID ... Any ideas? If no, please have an amusement with this ... -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 11:23: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.163.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B4A37B407 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:22:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gehicks@cisco.com) Received: from mira1.cisco.com (mira1.cisco.com [171.71.208.193]) by sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f5CIMn913115; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (ptlm1-dhcp-102.cisco.com [171.71.210.102]) by mira1.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AFB07925; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B265CE9.516AFB04@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:18:17 -0700 From: W Gerald Hicks Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Evenson Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? References: <3B25CAEC.27AF9D30@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Evenson wrote: > > W Gerald Hicks writes: > > > Cripes people, the CVS repository is available for people to be able to > > slide back and forth in time as necessary. It only requires a tiny bit > > of competence. For fair effort on your part you also gain a fair amount > > of liberty along with a system that has literally made computing history > > in terms of stability. On top of that, it's free. > > Not true: anonymous CVS access to the FreeBSD tree has not been available > for at least a couple years now. Or did I miss something? > Yeah, CVSup's ability to maintain a local repository. With this methodology, instead of using CVSup to keep /usr/{ports,src} up to date one keeps their local repo up to date and then uses cvs to checkout directly from there. Cheers, Jerry Hicks gehicks@cisco.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 11:23:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from malkavian.org (malkavian.org [206.136.132.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFFB37B405 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:22:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: (from rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5CIMJ350331; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:22:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:22:19 -0700 From: "brian j. peterson" To: "Hartmann, O." Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD - Linux curiosity Message-ID: <20010612112219.A49978@malkavian.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Hartmann, O." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 08:13:18PM +0200 X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG if you simply want to erase the hard drive in order to install Linux, try one (or both) of the following utilities from IBM: http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm#Wipe http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm#Zap (read the documentation first, of course.) -brian On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 08:13:18PM +0200, Hartmann, O. wrote: > Dear Sirs. > > Well, this is a small story about accusing FreeBSD to 'implant' > a Linux-unreadable filesystem on a Samsung harddrive (ATA100). > > I'm the system's operator for a small set of servers running all > FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE and we are using FreeBSD as our backbone for > over 5 years now with great success and without any catastrophy, > except several minor problems, like NFS tricks, but nothing that had not > been solved withing one or two weeks for ALL FreeBSD users, so far a > problem has been revealed as a bug. > > For our scientists it is necessary to be 'popular' and use the right > operating system and therefore most of them want Linux, because they > want it due the fact all others have it also. For this reason we got > several new fast Intel based computers and two are based on a ABIT > PC133 mainbord with the HighPoint 370 ATA100/RAID controller. One machine > has been switched to Windows 2000 because the user needs Windows 2000 > on this machine, but before, I installed FreeBSD 4.3-BETA and 4.3-RC > for three times with great success and without any problem. Windows > 2000 won't install itself due several problems with the HighPoint > controller ... The second machine was the same: three times I installed > FreeBSD from the ISO image CD without any problem ... The latter machine > is to be a Linux machine now - but Linux (SuSE 7.0 and SuSE 7.1) won't > install on the system (ABIT133) and after checking the compatibility > list of SuSE's homepage we got the information that there are still > several problems with the HighPoint RAID controller. The main problem > of the Linux installation procedure was, that Linux recognized several > uneraseable partitions, marked as "BSD" partition of strange sizes > (partition / has a size of 1GB in blocks, but I installed a /-partition of > 256 MB only ...). After using a radical DOS utility to repartition the > harddisk the Linux loader told us the same and for the first time the > guy from our computing center told us that this is a problem caused by > FreeBSD - the evidence was given by the 'fdisk' from Linux showing > BSD partitions ... huh??? > > Then we chenaged the mainboard after we read the compatibility list at SuSE's > homepage. Now this system is equippted with a ASUS CUV4X-D mainboard with > only one CPU at 1GHz - I run the same board with two 800EB CPUs under > FreeBSD with a great success (but with a AMI MegaRAID Elite 1600 and a > Adpaptec 2940UW SCSI subsystem, not ATA). > The same guy from our computing center came back to reinstall Linux again - > with no success, because Linux still reports massiv problems in reading > or being unable to read the partition table of the disk. It seems there > are still FreeBSD or any BSD typed partition remains. > Well, I'm not a guru but it seems to me that a 'BSD' type partition is > common such a way, that each unrecognized or scrambled partition is > recognized as BSD type ... and Linux seems to have massive problems. > FreeBSD could be installed without problems - but my chief-professor > wants Linux, so FreeBSD is out of qualifying ... > > Well, I'm a little bit confused about that what happened, but by intuition, > it seems to be a Linux problem. Does anyone ever heard about partition > tables created by FreeBSD, caused another system to hang or crash while > trying to format, repartition or low-level format the harddrive? Linux > isn't able to repartition the harddrive! And the controller on the ASUS > CUV4X-D is a VIA chip, not a HighPoint RAID ... > > Any ideas? If no, please have an amusement with this ... > > -- > MfG > O. Hartmann > > ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz > Becherweg 21 > 55099 Mainz > > Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) > Tel: +496131/3924144 > FAX: +496131/3923532 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== | rbw aka bjp | god's final message to his creation: | | rbw@myplace.org | we apologize for the inconvenience. | ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 11:28:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snoop.burghcom.com (burgcom.cust.stargate.net [209.166.166.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67DCC37B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:28:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jl@burghcom.com) Received: (qmail 67991 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2001 18:28:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 1185) (209.114.160.245) by snoop.burghcom.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2001 18:28:27 -0000 Message-ID: <00c801c0f36d$77c5a400$f5a072d1@hq.sgi.net> From: "Jeff Love" To: References: <3B25CAEC.27AF9D30@cisco.com> <3B265CE9.516AFB04@cisco.com> Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:28:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Yeah, CVSup's ability to maintain a local repository. With this > methodology, instead of using CVSup to keep /usr/{ports,src} up to date > one keeps their local repo up to date and then uses cvs to checkout > directly from there. If you've done a cvs upgrade to OpenBSD, that's how it works. Jeff Love Burgh-Com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 12: 6:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp.wanadoo.nl [194.134.193.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052B837B409 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:06:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p338.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.200.230]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5CJ6me11834; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:06:48 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:06:44 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: "Hartmann, O." Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD - Linux curiosity Message-Id: <20010612210644.03238a25.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:13:18 +0200 (CEST) "Hartmann, O." wrote: HO> Any ideas? If no, please have an amusement with this ... Try using the FreeBSD (or DOS) fdisk utility (or /stand/sysinstall) to remove all the FreeBSD partitions (with fdisk you can wipe everything down to 0). -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 12:17:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A756A37B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:17:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (Sturm@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5CJHCU18779; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:17:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:17:12 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD - Linux curiosity In-Reply-To: <20010612210644.03238a25.steveo@eircom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: Hihi. Sorry about laughin. But I did this. Linux seems to WANT see BSD partitions after doing so. Maybe we should stay with the better OS ... :-)) FBSD sees no partitions if there are no partitions made - also all DOS tools we tried: they do not see any partition Linux see. Is it a kind of digital FATAMORGANA? :>On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:13:18 +0200 (CEST) :>"Hartmann, O." wrote: :> :> :>HO> Any ideas? If no, please have an amusement with this ... :> :> Try using the FreeBSD (or DOS) fdisk utility (or /stand/sysinstall) :>to remove all the FreeBSD partitions (with fdisk you can wipe everything down :>to 0). :> :>-- :> Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun :> :> http://www.best.com/~sohara :> -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 12:21:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AAF37B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:21:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kway@overtone.org) Received: from bean.overtone.org (2Cust94.tnt14.phl1.da.uu.net [63.46.183.222]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18383; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bean.overtone.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2F363326D; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:20:53 -0400 From: Kevin Way To: Mark Evenson Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Message-ID: <20010612152053.B42564@bean.overtone.org> References: <3B25CAEC.27AF9D30@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="p4qYPpj5QlsIQJ0K" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from evenson@panix.com on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:20:57AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --p4qYPpj5QlsIQJ0K Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Cripes people, the CVS repository is available for people to be able to > > slide back and forth in time as necessary. It only requires a tiny bit > > of competence. For fair effort on your part you also gain a fair amount > > of liberty along with a system that has literally made computing history > > in terms of stability. On top of that, it's free. >=20 > Not true: anonymous CVS access to the FreeBSD tree has not been available > for at least a couple years now. Or did I miss something? cvsup has a handy feature called checkout mode, where you can set a line to be: date=3D2001.06.05.04.03.02 and you'll get the source tree as of 5 June 2001, 04:03:02. Kevin Way --p4qYPpj5QlsIQJ0K Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7JmuVKxA01iDoLN4RAl8IAJ0Z+1xJ1Jevv4bmhWJF4zFBg0MzKACeOakQ ozj9cESy3vY8xK2zy/vC8nc= =xY9K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --p4qYPpj5QlsIQJ0K-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 12:22:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E31DB37B409 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:22:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 31169 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jun 2001 19:22:23 -0000 Received: from p3ee20a8d.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.226.10.141) by mail.gmx.net (mp003-rz3) with SMTP; 12 Jun 2001 19:22:23 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA02017 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:15:11 +0200 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:15:11 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD - Linux curiosity Message-ID: <20010612211511.B17514@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 08:13:18PM +0200 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 20:13 +0200, Hartmann, O. wrote: > > [ ... snipped a rather long story :) on Linux not coping with > disks when partitioned by FreeBSD ... ] > > Well, I'm a little bit confused about that what happened, but > by intuition, it seems to be a Linux problem. Does anyone ever > heard about partition tables created by FreeBSD, caused another > system to hang or crash while trying to format, repartition or > low-level format the harddrive? Linux isn't able to repartition > the harddrive! And the controller on the ASUS CUV4X-D is a VIA > chip, not a HighPoint RAID ... NO, I haven't heard of any problems with partitions a Linux system cannot handle. DoS fdisk (of all shapes) is braindead, but that's known and not an actual problem as long as you have bootdisks for real OS. (NB: You did use real partitioning schemes, didn't you? "Dangerously dedicated" mode is evil with "modern" - read: designed for WinTel - PC technique.) BTW: SuSE has an *excellent* rescue system (the best I've ever seen in any Linux distribution!). Can't you just boot it from CD or the floppies (they even deliver them so you don't have to create them yourself) and do some "time dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=8388608"? That's what I always do and get quite some things from it: - any previous MS crap will be gone immediately - the disk is absolutely clean and installers do much better in such an environment than when sharing the machine with somebody else :) - you get an estimate on throughput - you have touched all sectors and should see when errors are reported virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 12:29: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nts.umd.edu (nts.umd.edu [128.8.5.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CC737B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:28:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from missing@ni.umd.edu) Received: from ni.umd.edu (apex.umd.edu [128.8.96.27]) by nts.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20639; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:28:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from missing@ni.umd.edu) Message-ID: <3B266D5F.9C72B1E1@ni.umd.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:28:31 -0400 From: missing@ni.umd.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Robin P. Blanchard" Cc: Jesper Skriver , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gigabit woes References: <3B2647E0.E40A2339@gactr.uga.edu> <20010612190345.A20019@skriver.dk> <3B265155.ACE63DEF@gactr.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This sounds very similiar to a problem that I had awhile back ... have you tried setting the duplex and port speeds manually on either the freebsd box or switch port? "Robin P. Blanchard" wrote: > > ok. currently in our dell poweredge 4350 there is a 3com 3c985b with > alteon-2 chipset plugged into a 64-bit pci slot. the kernel is built > to use the ti driver (with kernel NMBCLUSTERS set to 16896). > this is directly connected to a gig port on our extreme black diamond. > a basic ip test of ftping to a known functional gig interface > (an SGI origin 2000 also directly attached to our black diamond -- the > same test on this interface with a similar interface on a separate > module of this SGI box yields 12.183MB/s) yields a mere 2.37MB/s. > both the gig port on the black diamond and the nic in the freebsd box > are auto-negotiating. > > relevant /etc/sysctl.conf: > net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1 > net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536 > net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 > net.inet.udp.sendspace=65536 > net.inet.udp.recvspace=65536 > > relevant /etc/rc.conf: > icmp_drop_redirect="YES" > inetd_enable="NO" > kern_securelevel_enable="NO" > moused_enable="NO" > nfs_client_enable="YES" > ntpdate_enable="YES" > ntpdate_flags="10.10.10.11" > sendmail_enable="NO" > sshd_enable="NO" > tcp_drop_synfin="YES" > tcp_extensions="YES" > tcp_keepalive="YES" > usbd_enable="NO" > > we get similarly poor performance if we swap the 3com with an intel. > > more performance tuning suggestions are extremely welcomed. > thanks in advance. > > Jesper Skriver wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:48:32PM -0400, Robin P. Blanchard wrote: > > > we've tried both an intel (device xw) gig card > > > as well as a 3com (device ti) card in a 4.3-STABLE > > > box. the other end of the line is an extreme black > > > diamond gig port. both ends are autoconfigured > > > and the stats on the extreme show it's autoconfigured > > > at 1000. so everything looks good. we are not seeing > > > packet loss, either. unfortunately, our transfer > > > rates are barely reaching 3MB/s. > > > > Measured how ? > > > > Traffic transfered to/from which host ? > > > > Which protocol ? > > > > Which HW do you use on the FreeBSD machine > > > > > are there some options > > > on the FreeBSD side we need to fiddle with to get this > > > thing to do decent performance? > > > > sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536 > > sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 > > sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1 > > > > And permanent > > > > echo "tcp_extensions=\"YES\"" >> /etc/rc.conf > > echo "net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536" >> /etc/sysctl.conf > > echo "net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536" >> /etc/sysctl.conf > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Robin P. Blanchard > IT Program Specialist > Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. > fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 > email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu > ------------------------------------ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 12:30:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (larry.euronet.nl [194.134.35.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837E437B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p512.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.201.76]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5CJU4N29739; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:30:04 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:30:02 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: "Hartmann, O." Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD - Linux curiosity Message-Id: <20010612213002.782e83df.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20010612210644.03238a25.steveo@eircom.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:17:12 +0200 (CEST) "Hartmann, O." wrote: HO> On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: HO> HO> HO> Hihi. HO> HO> Sorry about laughin. But I did this. Linux seems to WANT see HO> BSD partitions after doing so. OK, try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0c bs=1024k count=1. If that doesn't wipe all traces I don't know what will :) -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 13:11: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D446237B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:11:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CA8675D86; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:11:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:11:02 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: "Robin P. Blanchard" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gigabit woes Message-ID: <20010612221102.C14059@skriver.dk> References: <3B2647E0.E40A2339@gactr.uga.edu> <20010612190345.A20019@skriver.dk> <3B265155.ACE63DEF@gactr.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B265155.ACE63DEF@gactr.uga.edu>; from Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 01:28:53PM -0400 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 01:28:53PM -0400, Robin P. Blanchard wrote: > ok. currently in our dell poweredge 4350 there is a 3com 3c985b with > alteon-2 chipset plugged into a 64-bit pci slot. the kernel is built > to use the ti driver (with kernel NMBCLUSTERS set to 16896). > this is directly connected to a gig port on our extreme black diamond. > a basic ip test of ftping to a known functional gig interface > (an SGI origin 2000 also directly attached to our black diamond -- the > same test on this interface with a similar interface on a separate > module of this SGI box yields 12.183MB/s) yields a mere 2.37MB/s. > both the gig port on the black diamond and the nic in the freebsd box > are auto-negotiating. This could also be the speed of which you are writing the recieved data to disk, just a guess. Does the switch report any errors on this port ? Does FreeBSD ? /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 13:35: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corleone.idealab.com (mx2.idealab.com [64.208.8.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BF5537B405 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:35:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@compete.com) Received: (qmail 12214 invoked by alias); 12 Jun 2001 20:35:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 12139 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2001 20:35:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cartman.boston.geekhouse.net) (10.5.1.109) by corleone.idealab.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2001 20:35:04 -0000 Received: by cartman.boston.geekhouse.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A75B6324C; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:34:57 -0400 From: Jim Mock To: W Gerald Hicks Cc: Mark Evenson , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Message-ID: <20010612163457.A6283@cartman.boston.geekhouse.net> Reply-To: jim@compete.com References: <3B25CAEC.27AF9D30@cisco.com> <3B265CE9.516AFB04@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B265CE9.516AFB04@cisco.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 at 11:18:17 -0700, W Gerald Hicks wrote: > Mark Evenson wrote: > > W Gerald Hicks writes: > > > Cripes people, the CVS repository is available for people to be > > > able to slide back and forth in time as necessary. It only > > > requires a tiny bit of competence. For fair effort on your part > > > you also gain a fair amount of liberty along with a system that > > > has literally made computing history in terms of stability. On > > > top of that, it's free. > > > > Not true: anonymous CVS access to the FreeBSD tree has not been > > available for at least a couple years now. Or did I miss something? > > > > Yeah, CVSup's ability to maintain a local repository. With this > methodology, instead of using CVSup to keep /usr/{ports,src} up to > date one keeps their local repo up to date and then uses cvs to > checkout directly from there. Uhm, there's also anoncvs.freebsd.org: % setenv CVSROOT ":pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs" % cvs login (Logging in to anoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org) CVS password: % - jim -- - jim mock www.compete.com - jim@FreeBSD.org - - senior systems administrator - Compete, Inc. - ph: 1.617.867.7035 - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 13:50:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.0.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A04F37B407 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:50:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from evenson@panix.com) Received: from panix6.panix.com (panix6.panix.com [166.84.0.231]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E948EBD for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:50:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from evenson@localhost) by panix6.panix.com (8.8.8/8.7.1/PanixN1.0) id QAA19315; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:50:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: panix6.panix.com: evenson set sender to evenson@panix.com using -f To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? References: <3B25CAEC.27AF9D30@cisco.com> <20010612102812.A85335@databits.net> From: Mark Evenson Date: 12 Jun 2001 16:50:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: Pete Fritchman's message of "Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:28:12 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0805 (Gnus v5.8.5) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Pete Fritchman writes: > ++ 12/06/01 10:20 -0400 - Mark Evenson: > | Not true: anonymous CVS access to the FreeBSD tree has not been available > | for at least a couple years now. Or did I miss something? > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/anoncvs.html I stand corrected. -- Mark Evenson "A screaming comes across the sky. It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare to it now." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 14:13:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from easystreet.com (easystreet.com [206.26.36.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228A037B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:13:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwatkins@firstplan.com) Received: from nightstalker ([206.129.94.230]) by easystreet.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5CLDCD26683 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:13:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason Watkins" To: "Freebsd-Stable" Subject: apache13-modssl [WAS: RE: building apache from /usr/ports] Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:13:06 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ok, so now my next question when building apache from /usr/ports/www/apache13-modssl it seems to be missing a lot of more or less essencial modules like mod_config, mod_dir, etc what's up with that? someone's already bodged a fix on the machine in question, but what's the proper way to deal with this? jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 14:30:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914E637B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b066.otenet.gr [195.167.121.194]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5CLU0v29042; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:30:01 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5CLTwT63574; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:29:59 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:29:57 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Hartmann, O." Cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD - Linux curiosity Message-ID: <20010613002957.F62873@hades.hell.gr> References: <20010612210644.03238a25.steveo@eircom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 09:17:12PM +0200 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3A 75 52 EB F1 58 56 0D - C5 B8 21 B6 1B 5E 4A C2 X-URL: http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 09:17:12PM +0200, Hartmann, O. wrote: >On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > >> Try using the FreeBSD (or DOS) fdisk utility (or /stand/sysinstall) >> to remove all the FreeBSD partitions (with fdisk you can wipe >> everything down to 0). > > Hihi. > > Sorry about laughin. But I did this. Linux seems to WANT see > BSD partitions after doing so. Well, if you erased all the partitions from the disk using FreeBSD's fdisk, you can bet that the disk has no partitions. Now, if Linux fdisk continues to believe for some obscure reason that the disk *does* have partitions, your problems are somewhere else. I would tend to suspect that the support for HighPoint controllers is that is buggy, since SuSE seems to have stated this already. > Maybe we should stay with the better OS ... :-)) Yes, please do! If Linux cannot support HighPoint controllers yet, and you know that FreeBSD does, it would seem like the most reasonable thing to do. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 14:30:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2C837B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b066.otenet.gr [195.167.121.194]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5CLU0v29041; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:30:00 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5CKVmN63352; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:31:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:31:48 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Message-ID: <20010612233148.E62873@hades.hell.gr> References: <20010611161820O.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from behanna@zbzoom.net on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:55:27PM -0400 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3A 75 52 EB F1 58 56 0D - C5 B8 21 B6 1B 5E 4A C2 X-URL: http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:55:27PM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: > Suggestion: committers hold off on commits for 30 minutes before > and after midnight UTC, so that those who track stable can grab the > tree as of midnight each night knowing that they didn't do so in the > middle of a large commit. Well, to be frank, I always try to avoid having a source tree thats updated while some large commit takes place. I keep a local copy of the CVS repository, updated from cvsup.gr.freebsd.org in my /home/ncvs directory, and `cvs update' my sources from that repository. Since changes happening in my /home/ncvs might not affect the -STABLE branch, before I build world, I always use: % cvs diff in my /usr/src to see if anything is still changing in -STABLE. If the world seems to be broken, I CVSup my /home/ncvs again, run cvs diff again in /usr/src to see if something has changed in -STABLE in the mean time, wipe out /usr/obj and start all over again. Yes, this is a lot of effort, and it might not save me from all of them troubles that can happen when something *does* break in -STABLE, but it seems to have saved me many times that a large commit was being made in -STABLE exactly when I CVSup'ed my sources. Of course keeping a local copy of the entire CVS repository is not something that I do solely for purposes of 'avoiding breakage'. The source has proven itself useful to me in many many other ways. Even bearing all this in mind though, I cannot suggest that everyone keeps their local CVS repository mirror. Thats too much space to waste for that extra feeling of 'hey, I have all the sources of FreeBSD from day zero on my disk, and I can actually use cvsweb.cgi on my local Apache to browse it and actually learn some stuff from it'. Just my $0.02 :-) -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 14:38:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dell.dannyland.org (dell.dannyland.org [64.81.36.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D6E37B40C for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:38:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: by dell.dannyland.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A3C0A5C2A; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:38:34 -0700 From: dannyman To: "Arthur W. Neilson III" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: emailing a printer Message-ID: <20010612143834.F99558@toldme.com> References: <200106112129540460.11D1B51F@smtp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106112129540460.11D1B51F@smtp>; from art@pilikia.net on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:29:54PM -1000 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:29:54PM -1000, Arthur W. Neilson III wrote: > Recently I was asked if FreeBSD could be used as a print server for > email; i.e. sending email to a networked printer. The idea is to have > email addresses for printers and be able to route mail to them for > delivery on hardcopy. We have *many* printers and my initial idea > of using /etc/mail/aliases i.e. helpdesk@boh.com: "| lpr 10.0.0.1" > for example seems rather cumbersome and difficult to manage when > you start adding them all up. Does anyone have recommendations > for this? With Postfix, you could set up a transport in master.cf: lpr unix - n n - - pipe user=nobody argv=/bin/lpr -P $extension Then, you configure somehow printer to deliver via the lpr transport. In this example, an e-mail to print+hp@printhost would send the message to lpr -P hp. That's the idea. There is probably a cleaner way to do this, like set up a virtual host called "printme" and then configure the virtual table so hp@printme does the deed. If you don't feel like knowing your MTA so well, write the script. The ultimate answer would be to maintain printer information in LDAP and use LDAP map lookups to only deliver to appropriate printers. I may be able to furnish detailed information on this kind of stuff later this year or so. :) -danny -- http://dannyman.toldme.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 14:42:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dell.dannyland.org (dell.dannyland.org [64.81.36.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D578B37B401; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:41:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: by dell.dannyland.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9B06D5BFA; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:42:06 -0700 From: dannyman To: Henk Wevers Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: OpenLDAP 2 support in PORTS Message-ID: <20010612144206.G99558@toldme.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from henk@home.cg.nu on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:59:46PM +0200 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:59:46PM +0200, Henk Wevers wrote: > Hi ports mantainers, > > If you make a port with OpenLDAP support, could you plase make > an extra option to support OpenLDAP2?, every port with OpenLDAP > support i did see only hase OpenLDAP1 support. As one who uses both OpenLDAP ports and as one who is considering sending in a new port for the Mozilla::LDAP module, I'd be happy to do this. Any advice on HOW, though? :) -danny -- http://dannyman.toldme.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 14:59:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.163.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E0337B407 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:59:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gehicks@cisco.com) Received: from mira1.cisco.com (mira1.cisco.com [171.71.208.193]) by sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f5CLxt905025; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (ptlm1-dhcp-102.cisco.com [171.71.210.102]) by mira1.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AFB10677; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B268FC4.A749B300@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:55:16 -0700 From: W Gerald Hicks Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jim@compete.com Cc: Mark Evenson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? References: <3B25CAEC.27AF9D30@cisco.com> <3B265CE9.516AFB04@cisco.com> <20010612163457.A6283@cartman.boston.geekhouse.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Uhm, there's also anoncvs.freebsd.org: > > % setenv CVSROOT ":pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs" > % cvs login > (Logging in to anoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org) > CVS password: > % > > - jim > (waves to jim) Yes, anoncvs is available too but to me it seems to be a rather limited resource (a server of one). I wasn't sure if it was good to advocate that people start using that regularly for maintenance of their "production servers". It certainly works though, I've used it before. :-) On the other hand, CVSup mirrors are dispersed worldwide and the protocol used by CVSup is _much_ friendlier in terms of bandwidth utilization (once synched anyway). Accessing history or logs is pretty zippy with the local repo model. What I do here is to maintain a local mirror using /usr/ports/net/cvsup-mirror. Other systems access the local repo using CVSup or cvs server mode, depending on what we're up to at any given moment. However one does it, the point is that these transient glitches with -stable need not cause too much consternation. When it happens it's very trivial to recover from and one's energy can be more profitably directed at being part of the solution. Send-pr is the correct way to help. Cheers, Jerry Hicks gehicks@cisco.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 15:34:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from calvino.alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net [209.112.129.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D23337B405 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:34:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flash@alaska.net) Received: from localhost (flash@localhost) by calvino.alaska.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA20272 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:34:20 -0800 (AKDT) X-Authentication-Warning: calvino.alaska.net: flash owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:34:20 -0800 (AKDT) From: Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: emailing a printer In-Reply-To: <20010612143834.F99558@toldme.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried e-mailing a printer once... The e-mail server gave me an 'attachment to large' error! Fedex worked better... Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 16: 5:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from newsguy.com (perry.pathlink.com [209.155.233.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F1537B403; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:05:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (ppp045-bsace7001.telebrasilia.net.br [200.181.80.45]) by newsguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f5CN5fq31423; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B26A084.A121C14B@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:06:44 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,pt,en-GB,en-US,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: nickhead@folino.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KERNCONF instead of KERNEL? References: <20010302134531.26192.qmail@www1.nameplanet.com> <3A9FAF6B.29CC5157@newsguy.com> <20010304115649.A420@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nik Clayton wrote: > > I think the attached diff to the Handbook brings it up to date with > reality. I've also attached the generated HTML file, for those of you > that don't want to build the docs. Comments? 19.4.12: we changed sysinstall on -current to /usr/sbin (or maybe /sbin?), did we not? Aside from that... sheesh, talk about comprehensive. I'm glad I only had to read it all on the good old 2.1 days. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.secret.bsdconspiracy.net wow regex humor... I'm a geek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 16: 5:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sgi04-e.std.com (sgi04-e.std.com [199.172.62.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D35137B405; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:05:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by sgi04-e.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA6058451; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:05:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29302; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:05:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200106122305.TAA29302@world.std.com> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problem(s) building XFree 4.1.0 in 4.3-stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi -stable & -ports: I'm getting the following error(s) (see attached) while attempting build of XFree86 4.1.0 under 4.3-STABLE (as of 09 June 2001). This system is running (& has been for some time now) XFree 4.0.3_3. I'm answering YES to all the interactive make questions. I note that there is an almost identical message to this in the current -ports archive, with no replies. Additionally, I've been trying this build over the past several days (after noticing updates to the relevant port & another ports-cvsup), all with the same result. If this is (my) pilot-error I'd certainly appreciate knowing what it is, or is this port Just Plain Broken(tm)? Many thanks, -kc ---------------------------------------- [...] making all in fonts/scaled/Speedo... LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../../exports/lib ../../../exports/bin/mkfontdir . making all in fonts/scaled/Type1... LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../../exports/lib ../../../exports/bin/mkfontdir . LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../../exports/lib XFT_CONFIG=../../../lib/Xft/XftConfig ../../../exports/bin/xftcache . /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: ../../../exports/bin/xftcache: Undefined symbol "XftDirSave" *** Error code 1 Stop in /mnt3/work/xc/fonts/scaled/Type1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /mnt3/work/xc/fonts/scaled. *** Error code 1 Stop in /mnt3/work/xc/fonts. *** Error code 1 Stop in /mnt3/work/xc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /mnt3/work/xc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /mnt3/work/xc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 16:11:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (itouch.co.nz [203.99.66.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C4737B405; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:11:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@itouch.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by itouch.co.nz (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5CNBLm86323; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:11:21 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:11:21 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem(s) building XFree 4.1.0 in 4.3-stable Message-ID: <20010613111121.A86174@itouchnz.itouch> References: <200106122305.TAA29302@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106122305.TAA29302@world.std.com>; from kwc@world.std.com on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 07:05:46PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 07:05:46PM -0400, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > Hi -stable & -ports: > > I'm getting the following error(s) (see attached) while > attempting build of XFree86 4.1.0 under 4.3-STABLE (as of 09 > June 2001). This system is running (& has been for some time > now) XFree 4.0.3_3. I'm answering YES to all the interactive > make questions. > > I note that there is an almost identical message to this in > the current -ports archive, with no replies. Additionally, > I've been trying this build over the past several days (after > noticing updates to the relevant port & another ports-cvsup), > all with the same result. > > If this is (my) pilot-error I'd certainly appreciate knowing > what it is, or is this port Just Plain Broken(tm)? jmz@freebsd.org suggests the following workaround: The workaround is to rename or remove /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.1 before the build. Eg: # mv /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.1 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.1.old # make && make install # rm /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.1.old If you manage to get 4.1.0 working for the i810e, drop me a line; it currently segfaults on my machine. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Opportunity does not knock, it presents itself when you beat down the door" - W.E. Channing To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 16:12:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kristen.shadowdale.net (omah6400gw2poolD13.omah.uswest.net [63.227.159.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BED137B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:12:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hey9811@yahoo.com) Received: from localhost (hey9811@localhost) by kristen.shadowdale.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09183 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:12:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hey9811@yahoo.com) X-Authentication-Warning: kristen.shadowdale.net: hey9811 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:12:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Virtual Bob Cc: FreeBSD STABLE discussion Subject: Re: FreeBSD - Linux curiosity In-Reply-To: <20010613002957.F62873@hades.hell.gr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Sorry about laughin. But I did this. Linux seems to WANT see > > BSD partitions after doing so. > Well, if you erased all the partitions from the disk using FreeBSD's > fdisk, you can bet that the disk has no partitions. Now, if Linux > fdisk continues to believe for some obscure reason that the disk > *does* have partitions, your problems are somewhere else. It may well be that standard error handling routine for Linux is to mark such error as "BSD" partition. If you wipe first few sectors of HD clean and Linux still whines, then the problem is with Linux. ------------- clip here with virtual scissors -------------- ************************************************************ Keyboard stuck error. Press F1 to continue. Any unsolicited e-mails will be charged US$500 per e-mail, plus court cost. Your contribution to Bill Gates' personal wealth: US$359.17 ************************************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 16:33:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D93037B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:33:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16849; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:33:35 +1000 (EST) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37640) with ESMTP id <01K4PP2UG46OVLO0PH@cim.alcatel.com.au>; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:33:33 +1000 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5CNXVH10197; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:33:31 +1000 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:33:31 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Very odd clock problem In-reply-to: ; from pfrench@firstcallgroup.co.uk on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:47:54AM +0100 To: Pete French Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: Pete French , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20010613093331.C95583@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <200106110001.f5B01k202445@mass.dis.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-Jun-11 10:47:54 +0100, Pete French wrote: >What happens specificly is this: I get a user (and its always the same user) >who complains that the dates on his outgoing emails are being timestamped in >1933. I login, type 'date' and sure enough it says it is a date in >1933. I then reset the date. There is nothing in the log files to indicate >what has happened - other than the date on other messages jumping back >to sometime in May (the year isnt logged in /var/log/messages I assume, >but the month change is very obvious and I am assuming this co-incides >with the year date change). > >We were running ntpd, and stopped in case it was a corrupt ntp server >somewhere. Is the date always consistent after the jump, if so what is it? Is ntpd still running after the time glitch? Normally ntpd will abort if it sees a time differential exceeding 1000 seconds (though this can be disabled with '-g'). You might like to add the local clock as a server (at a large stratum so that it's not used as a reference) and log ntpd statistics. For example, add the following to your ntp.conf: server 127.127.1.0 # local clock fudge 127.127.1.0 stratum 14 # at a not-very-trustworthy priority statsdir /var/log/ntpstats/ # directory for statistics files filegen peerstats file peerstats type day enable filegen loopstats file loopstats type day enable This will give you logfiles showing how the system clock and your NTP peers compare to ntpd's clock, as well as ntpd internal loop statistics. > Could this be a clock battery problem at all ? No, the CMOS clock is only used to set the time when booting. It's ignored after that. ntpdate should syslog a message showing what change it had to make to the system clock. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 16:54:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10F137B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:54:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09788 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:54:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23943; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:52:48 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200106122352.JAA23943@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Can't get WC to bill me right! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:52:48 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [This is probably off-topic, but where else can I go?] I've been trying for a couple of months to get WC (or whoever they are this week!) to change the credit card details for my FreeBSD subscription. I've tried four times via the web page and three times via email to "orders@" and have had no response apart from the seemingly automated response from the order server that my CC details have been declined and my CDs have not shipped. Has this fallen into the cracks of the reorganisation? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 17: 1:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from camelot.bitart.com (BITart-45.BITart.com [206.103.221.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 674F037B405 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:01:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gerti@bitart.com) Received: (qmail 9005 invoked by uid 101); 13 Jun 2001 00:01:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20010613000151.9004.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) In-Reply-To: <200106122352.JAA23943@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.2p1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Gerd Knops Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:01:51 -0500 To: Gregory Bond Subject: Re: Can't get WC to bill me right! Cc: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: gerti@BITart.com References: <200106122352.JAA23943@lightning.itga.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gregory Bond wrote: > [This is probably off-topic, but where else can I go?] > > I've been trying for a couple of months to get WC (or whoever they > are this week!) to change the credit card details for my FreeBSD > subscription. I've tried four times via the web page and three times > via email to "orders@" and have had no response apart from the > seemingly automated response from the order server that my CC details > have been declined and my CDs have not shipped. > > Has this fallen into the cracks of the reorganisation? > Same fate here. EMails and phone calls did not help. Guess I will cancel my subscription, hate to support incompetence. There are probably better ways than a subscription to support FreeBSD anyway. Gerd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 17:17: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.6.9.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E5E37B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:17:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@soco.agilent.com) Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869C41EB6 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:16:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3973B801 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:16:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id RAA24482 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106130016.RAA24482@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't get WC to bill me right! Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:01:51 CDT." <20010613000151.9004.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:16:58 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gerd Knops wrote: > Same fate here. EMails and phone calls did not help. Guess I will > cancel my subscription, hate to support incompetence. There are > probably better ways than a subscription to support FreeBSD anyway. I'm in a similar situation. I moved a few months ago, changed my address via their web page, and they're still sending CDs to the old address (and they're still using my old email address, even though I'd sent them a comment otherwise). I'm going to resubmit my address change. If they send another CD to the wrong address, I'm just going to cancel everything (I've got something like three different subscriptions). -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 17:33: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crotus.sc.intel.com (scfdns02.sc.intel.com [143.183.152.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A425F37B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:33:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by crotus.sc.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.40 2001/06/06 21:14:49 root Exp $) with ESMTP id AAA08238 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:33:04 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.14 2001/01/02 18:39:59 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id RAA21745 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:33:04 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id UAA22141; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:33:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15142.46271.434974.979654@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:33:03 -0700 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Making donations easier (was Re: Can't get WC to bill me right!) In-Reply-To: <20010613000151.9004.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> References: <200106122352.JAA23943@lightning.itga.com.au> <20010613000151.9004.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Tuesday, June 12, Gerd Knops wrote: ] > Same fate here. EMails and phone calls did not help. Guess I will > cancel my subscription, hate to support incompetence. There are > probably better ways than a subscription to support FreeBSD anyway. > Well, now that you brought it up, I will bring up the question I've been wanting to ask but afraid to as it brought up flames last time somebody mentioned it. I use FreeBSD. I love FreeBSD. I live FreeBSD (ask my wife :). I want to support FreeBSD. I keep my subscription to FreeBSD cd's just as a "token" of my appreciation for the developers in the hopes that some of my $$$ gets fed back to those who are paid professionally to develop it or for funds for buying new hardware for paid/unpaid developers to dink with. Jordan has several times said that "not much profit" are brought in from the CD-ROM sales (quoting jkh "loosely" here). I haven't actually *used* my CDs (except for pushing them onto people at work and giving them to my little girl as a fascinating toy) since 3.0-RELEASE--after that with broadband access and ISO images, it's pretty pointless. I just keep the subscription to "support" FreeBSD. I see that section 20.2.5 of the Handbook shows that contributions can be sent to FreeBSD, Inc. or wired directly to a Bank of America account. I was trudging to some project's website yesterday (open source software--can't remember what it was) and they had opened up a Paypal account where donations could be given to support the project. Couldn't we get this avenue setup as well considering that there already is a Bank of America account for FreeBSD, Inc.? I personally would cancel my CD subscription and funnel the same $$$ dollars around each release into this account if it was "easy" (i.e. Paypal ... ok, ebay has made me lazy :). Comments? -Jr ps: Is there some sort of quarterly public disclosure about how much money came into this account, where it went, what services or h/w was purchased with it, etc. While whole-heartedly wanting to support FreeBSD and its paid/unpaid developers, I wouldn't want to flush my money down some hole with no "tangible" value (much like my Home Owner's Association check each quarter :) or idea of where the $$$ went. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, (space for rent, cheap!) | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 17:51: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FB337B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:51:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 705036ACC1; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:20:58 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:20:58 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Josef Karthauser Cc: Eric Parusel , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: XFS (was: The FreeBSD core team needs your help) Message-ID: <20010613102058.F5486@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010608134705.19635.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com> <004001c0f030$36a0d3e0$0600020a@frontend> <20010612120958.G10614@tao.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010612120958.G10614@tao.org.uk>; from joe@tao.org.uk on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:09:58PM +0100 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 12 June 2001 at 12:09:58 +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 08:32:23AM -0700, Eric Parusel wrote: >>>> A journalling FS for those people who just hate waiting for a >> couple >>>> of >>>> TB of slow disks to fsck? >>> >>> Does ReiserFS work with FreeBSD? >> >>> From what I've read, XFS is quite good as well.... (Whether or not it >> could ever work with *BSD, I don't know) > > Apparently XFS would run better on FreeBSD than on Linux, from what > Adrian told me. This is because linux apparently channels all I/O > through 512k buffers They're not that big. IIRC 4 kB is the maximum in 2.2 and earlier kernels. They've improved things somewhat in 2.4, but it's still a mess. > whereas XFS uses larger buffers to get it's speed. FreeBSD's buffer > cache doesn't have the same limitations that Linux's does. Correct. We do limit physical I/O to 128 kB, however. That would have to be rethought to do correctly some of the things that XFS does. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 17:51:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A77D37B407 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:51:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A27D76ACBC; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:21:51 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:21:51 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: Josef Karthauser , lists@globalrelay.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: JFS (was: The FreeBSD core team needs your help) Message-ID: <20010613102151.G5486@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010608134705.19635.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com> <004001c0f030$36a0d3e0$0600020a@frontend> <20010612120958.G10614@tao.org.uk> <20010612192245.4ce69cf3.steveo@eircom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010612192245.4ce69cf3.steveo@eircom.net>; from steveo@eircom.net on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 07:22:45PM +0200 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 12 June 2001 at 19:22:45 +0200, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:09:58 +0100 > Josef Karthauser wrote: > > JK> On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 08:32:23AM -0700, Eric Parusel wrote: > JK> > > > A journalling FS for those people who just hate waiting for a > JK> > couple > JK> > > > of > JK> > > > TB of slow disks to fsck? > JK> > > > JK> > > Does ReiserFS work with FreeBSD? > JK> > > JK> > >From what I've read, XFS is quite good as well.... (Whether or not it > JK> > could ever work with *BSD, I don't know) > JK> > JK> Apparently XFS would run better on FreeBSD than on Linux, from what > > Whatever happened to the open source release of JFS, or is JFS really > bad ? The open source version of JFS was based on OS/2, not AIX. It's not an overly good fit to UNIX. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 18: 1:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F150037B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:01:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.xtalwind.net [127.0.0.1]) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5D10H704018; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:00:17 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: John Reynolds~ Cc: Subject: Re: Making donations easier (was Re: Can't get WC to bill me right!) In-Reply-To: <15142.46271.434974.979654@hip186.ch.intel.com> Message-ID: <20010612205910.M3751-100000@germanium.xtalwind.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today John Reynolds~ wrote: > I personally would cancel my CD subscription and funnel the same $$$ dollars > around each release into this account if it was "easy" (i.e. Paypal ... ok, > ebay has made me lazy :). www.freebsdmall.com/donate/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 18:42:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8085437B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:42:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11144 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:42:52 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12400; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:41:37 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200106130141.LAA12400@lightning.itga.com.au> From: Gregory Bond To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't get WC to bill me right! In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:52:48 +1000. Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:41:37 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wrote: > I've been trying for a couple of months to get WC (or whoever they are this > week!) to change the credit card details for my FreeBSD subscription. It appears posting to -stable is an effective, if inappropriate, way of fixing this because, lo and behold, half an hour later my order is confirmed with the new CC details! Thanks to whoever read this and made it happen! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 19: 1:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hal-pc.org (hal-pc.org [204.52.135.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582F137B401; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:01:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wotan@ns.fosburgh.org) Received: from gw.fosburgh.org (206.180.128.156.dial-ip.hal-pc.org [206.180.128.156]) by mail.hal-pc.org (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA28421; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:01:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (wotan@localhost) by gw.fosburgh.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5D20vh66924; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:00:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from wotan@ns.fosburgh.org) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:00:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan E Fosburgh Reply-To: fosburgh@flash.net To: Greg Lehey Cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , Josef Karthauser , lists@globalrelay.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: JFS (was: The FreeBSD core team needs your help) In-Reply-To: <20010613102151.G5486@wantadilla.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: > > Whatever happened to the open source release of JFS, or is JFS really > > bad ? > > The open source version of JFS was based on OS/2, not AIX. It's not > an overly good fit to UNIX. > The AIX v4.3 version of JFS (JFS 1) has reached the end of its development life (this according to an IBM filesystem developer at Share in Long Beach earlier this year). Perhaps IBM will at some point open up the source for it. Of course, the OS/2 version of JFS is what JFS 2 is developed off of, and UNIX development of it was done on Project Monterrey, so apparently it can be fit onto UNIXen. And JFS 2 offers some interesting functionality in the future, including (potentially) the ability to shrink filesystems, and on the fly to boot. Jonathan Fosburgh Software Systems Specialist III MD Anderson Cancer Center Houston, TX Home Page: http://www.fosburgh.org Manager, FreeBSD Webring: http://www.fosburgh.org/computer/freebsdring.html ICQ: 32742908 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7JslVqUvQmqp7omYRAkxJAJ44qtnNgsclbds7DdyEDUH28WL0HQCfUgin tH7srVxqkGTHE3xbN+qcxGs= =A8Su -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 19:50:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from search.sparks.net (search.sparks.net [208.5.188.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B356237B405 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:50:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmiller@sparks.net) Received: by search.sparks.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 6C92ADB49; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:50:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by search.sparks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C94DB48 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:50:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:50:46 -0400 (EDT) From: David Miller To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial port stuck at 9600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, David Miller wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, David Miller wrote: > > > Hi All:) > > > > Is there a problem with setting serial port speeds in 4.3R? > > After digging through a couple of other "identical" systems, I've > discovered that the only reason it worked at all was that the BIOS was > configured with the com port on "auto". When set to be com1 at IRQ 4 it > ceased to function at all, matching the other two systems. > > I've tracked the problem down to the port (ttyd0) not having DCD > input. Using cuaa0 worked fine, so the serial port is OK. A kindly reader here mentioned that DCD was an "input only" signal on PC serial ports. That is to say they look for it, they don't set it. Armed with that knowledge I bridged DTR from the remote device, which is connected to DSR on the local device. In english, this means you need to tie pin 6 to pin 1 on the ttyd0 end if you're using a 9 pin port. Now the only problem I'm having is bumping the console serial speed. I've read through the handbook till I'm blind and it won't kick out of 9600 baud. If I remove /boot.config and reboot so the port isn't the console, the speed changes as it should when set in /etc/ttys. So it's not a hardware issue. I've added BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED=57600 to /etc/make.conf, cd /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/ make (missing library) cd /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/btx make (works fine except for Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/btx/lib) message cd - make - works fine, creates new boot2 image. Verify image is in /boot Installed new images with: cd /boot disklabel -W ad0 disklabel -B -b boot1 -s boot2 ad0 reboot - still locked at 9600 I also tried installing them on ad0s1, same results. FreeBSD is installed without the bootmgr. I also added options CONSPEED=57600 to the config file, relinked, installed, and rebooted. Still at 9600. I'm obviously missing something. Anyone want to tell me what? Thanks, --- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 20:53:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com [171.71.163.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1658D37B40B; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:52:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f5D3r5k23263; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5D3qvB37402; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106130352.f5D3qvB37402@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4+ 06/08/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, Kenneth W Cochran , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OT: rendered copies of RelnotesNG in the tree (was: RELNOTESng problems) In-Reply-To: <3B265047.4060605@lmc.ericsson.se> References: <200106121443.KAA18844@world.std.com> <3B2637CA.9050803@lmc.ericsson.se> <200106121629.f5CGTZF27955@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <3B265047.4060605@lmc.ericsson.se> Comments: In-reply-to "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" message dated "Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:24:23 -0400." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-797999564P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:52:57 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-797999564P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If memory serves me right, "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" wrote: > > How does the Web-available versions differ from putting the TXT > > rendering in the repository? > > > Not much. But one might like to consider the idea of having the TXT > files *implicitly* available along the source code (bundled), instead of > as a "foreign" reference on a website. I can see many situations where > one could not have access to the web but only acces to the local machine > which contains the source code. I'm trying to picture someone tracking -STABLE (for instance) but not being able to pull down a Web page...CTM users are the only group of people who come to mind, potentially. > Another thing which crosses my mind: when someone installs a RELEASE, > the relnotes TXT/rendered versions come with it and are installed as > part of the install process, right? No, actually I don't think the release documentation gets installed...it stays on the install media. Someone correct me if this is wrong...I confess that I haven't done a sysinstall for about a year. cvsup/make world doesn't touch these either (I know that for sure). > > The Web versions will (once the Web > > Gods make a couple of commits) get built as frequently as the Web site > > is. > > > That's about once a day, if I'm not mistaken? I *think* it's twice a day for the main server; don't know about the mirrors. > How technically feasable would it be to have the TXT files rebuilt on > the fly, after a commit on the related .sgml file? I don't know of any easy way to do this. The problem is that the *.TXT rebuild requires running a process (OK, a bunch of processes) that may or not produce successful output. It's a lot for the CVS server to have to handle, and we can't very well require this on the CVS clients. You didn't suggest this, but in case someone *else* thinks of it, no, we'll never have a policy of requiring manual commits of *.TXT renderings. > > In the meantime, you can look at the version on my Web page. They're > > updated pretty often, on an unofficial basis. > > > Assuming I have access to the web. :) That is of course considered > irrelevent nowadays, but I find that still a considerable requisite to > have access to notes so tightly integrated (or relevant? I miss the > proper word) to the source... These things should all be bundled together. I think "integrated" is the word you mean. If I only had intermittent net access, and I couldn't build the release documentation locally, I'd do a fetch on the Web site at the same time as a cvsup of my sources. Probably done with a script. Not the most well-coupled solution, I realize: #! /bin/sh cvsup -g -L2 path/to/my/supfile fetch http://www.freebsd.org/path/to/relnotes.txt fetch http://www.freebsd.org/path/to/hardware.txt fetch http://www.freebsd.org/path/to/install.txt fetch http://www.freebsd.org/path/to/readme.txt fetch http://www.freebsd.org/path/to/errata.txt > Actually, the release notes are *implicitly* out of date, since we have > no formal/automated system of updating the relnotes when a major change > is made. AFAIK, there is someone (you, Bruce?:) that updates them by > watching cvs-all, but that is also an out of date process. > > OTOH, putting the TXT files in the repository would also add to the delay. It's usually me who writes these things. It'd be nice if more developers wrote their own release notes though. gshapiro is actually really good about doing release note commits at the same time as his source commits. Cheers, Bruce. --==_Exmh_-797999564P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7JuOZ2MoxcVugUsMRAsH4AJ93MfEPwkCQPYpq42AjgmYcyAvwyACg2DyQ RT5DVnYwhYvxfy/g8u6HILg= =p5Db -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-797999564P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 21: 0:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [209.16.107.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B1537B407 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f5D40sd00387 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:00:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:00:54 -0400 From: Charlie & To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Installworld woes Message-ID: <20010613000054.A347@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So I check the lists, check the bug reports, so on, see that things should be, for what matters to me, stable in -STABLE. rm /usr/obj and /usr/src and cvsup a clean tree from stable-supfile. Buildworld with no problem. Installworld dies. :( I get: ===> bin ===> bin/cat install -C -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 cat /bin install: mkstemp: /bin/INS@f5rU for /bin/cat: Operation not permitted *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/bin/cat. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 I can not find a way to fix this, or anyone else with this problem. System is upgrading from 4.3-BETA. When I first got the error, re-read the handbook to see if I was missing something, only thing I found was to installkernel the new kernel before rebooting. Did that, no help. So... Help? Sorry this is turse, I am exhausted after beating on this six hours. Soplease, please, somone shed a ray of light on this. Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 21:17:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390AC37B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:17:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611FA3E0B; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:17:09 -0700 (PDT) To: Charlie & Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installworld woes In-Reply-To: <20010613000054.A347@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net>; from root@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net on "Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:00:54 -0400" Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:17:09 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010613041709.611FA3E0B@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Charlie & writes: > > So I check the lists, check the bug reports, so on, see that things > should be, for what matters to me, stable in -STABLE. rm /usr/obj > and /usr/src and cvsup a clean tree from stable-supfile. Buildworld > with no problem. Installworld dies. :( I get: > > ===> bin > ===> bin/cat > install -C -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 cat /bin > install: mkstemp: /bin/INS@f5rU for /bin/cat: Operation not permitted > *** Error code 71 /bin, /bin/cat, or both have the schg flag set. Unset it and it will work. For more information, see securelevel(7), chflags(1), and the FAQ entires on "securelevel" and "unsetting the schg flag". They should be in the "system administration" section. > > Stop in /usr/src/bin/cat. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/bin. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > I can not find a way to fix this, or anyone else with this problem. System > is upgrading from 4.3-BETA. When I first got the error, re-read the handbook > to see if I was missing something, only thing I found was to installkernel > the new kernel before rebooting. Did that, no help. > > So... Help? Sorry this is turse, I am exhausted after beating on this six > hours. Soplease, please, somone shed a ray of light on this. > > Jamie > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 22: 8:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3283D37B403 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:08:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5D57st31873; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:07:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: darrylo@soco.agilent.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't get WC to bill me right! In-Reply-To: <200106130016.RAA24482@mina.soco.agilent.com> References: <20010613000151.9004.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> <200106130016.RAA24482@mina.soco.agilent.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010612220754A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:07:54 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 29 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Darryl Okahata Subject: Re: Can't get WC to bill me right! Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:16:58 -0700 > Gerd Knops wrote: > > > Same fate here. EMails and phone calls did not help. Guess I will > > cancel my subscription, hate to support incompetence. There are > > probably better ways than a subscription to support FreeBSD anyway. > > I'm in a similar situation. I moved a few months ago, changed my > address via their web page, and they're still sending CDs to the old > address (and they're still using my old email address, even though I'd Folks, I wish I could say that the WindRiver transition had gone smoothly from the perspective of ordering and fulfillment, but it clearly hasn't. There have been serious delays induced in just about every aspect of the CD publishing process and the orders dept has, for all practical purposes, fallen apart. I've expressed my displeasure at this state of affairs to all of the appropriate WindRiver folks and I think they understand that they really need to fix this or the project will undoubtedly be forced to explore other avenues of CDROM publishing, such as Daemon News (who has already expressed a strong interest). All I can say right now is that I'll keep pushing this and continue to monitor the situation for signs of improvement. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 22:13:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDB037B418 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:13:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5D5Ajt31922; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:10:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making donations easier (was Re: Can't get WC to bill me right!) In-Reply-To: <15142.46271.434974.979654@hip186.ch.intel.com> References: <200106122352.JAA23943@lightning.itga.com.au> <20010613000151.9004.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> <15142.46271.434974.979654@hip186.ch.intel.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010612221045B.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:10:45 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 24 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: John Reynolds~ Subject: Making donations easier (was Re: Can't get WC to bill me right!) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:33:03 -0700 > I see that section 20.2.5 of the Handbook shows that contributions can be sent > to FreeBSD, Inc. or wired directly to a Bank of America account. I was Whoops, I really need to fix that - FreeBSD, Inc. has been closed down now that the FreeBSD Foundation (which I have nothing to do with personally) is in operation and has full 501(c)3 status for providing tax relief. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that the Foundation has really done much of anything WITH that status yet since it's not soliciting donations, but it's still the only game in town. The core team has asked the foundation board (Justin Gibbs, Jonathan Bresler and John Polstra) for some sort of status on this but we're still in the dark. In the meantime, PLEASE do not send anything further to FreeBSD, Inc. I've been simply returning any checks sent to it and the bank account is closed, so attempts to wire anything to it will simply bounce back. I'll go edit the handbook as well - I should have done that months ago and thanks for bringing it to my attention! :( - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 22:16:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE3837B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:16:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5D5Dmt31935; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:13:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Cc: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making donations easier (was Re: Can't get WC to bill me right!) In-Reply-To: <20010612205910.M3751-100000@germanium.xtalwind.net> References: <15142.46271.434974.979654@hip186.ch.intel.com> <20010612205910.M3751-100000@germanium.xtalwind.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010612221348H.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:13:48 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 37 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We really need to remove that URL as well, though anything sent to it for now will simply be forwarded to the foundation (I believe it was around $900 last year). Donations directly to the foundation will, however, get you a tax credit so you really should do that instead. Pity the Foundation board hasn't seen fit to provide much information on this yet. Yeah, I'm a little bit miffed that FreeBSD, Inc was closed down to make way for an effort which really hasn't done anything very visible yet, but I'm sure everyone involved has good reasons for that. - Jordan From: jack Subject: Re: Making donations easier (was Re: Can't get WC to bill me right!) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:00:17 -0400 (EDT) > Today John Reynolds~ wrote: > > > I personally would cancel my CD subscription and funnel the same $$$ dollars > > around each release into this account if it was "easy" (i.e. Paypal ... ok, > > ebay has made me lazy :). > > www.freebsdmall.com/donate/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst > jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. > Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. > PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD > enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer is to computing what > a McDonalds Certified Food Specialist is to fine cuisine. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 12 23: 7: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from malkavian.org (malkavian.org [206.136.132.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDD537B401 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:07:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: (from rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5D66bD76895; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 02:06:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:06:37 -0700 From: "brian j. peterson" To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making donations easier (was Re: Can't get WC to bill me right!) Message-ID: <20010612230637.E49978@malkavian.org> Mail-Followup-To: Jordan Hubbard , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <15142.46271.434974.979654@hip186.ch.intel.com> <20010612205910.M3751-100000@germanium.xtalwind.net> <20010612221348H.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010612221348H.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:13:48PM -0700 X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:13:48PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > We really need to remove that URL as well, though anything sent to it > for now will simply be forwarded to the foundation (I believe it was > around $900 last year). Donations directly to the foundation will, > however, get you a tax credit so you really should do that instead. > Pity the Foundation board hasn't seen fit to provide much information > on this yet. Yeah, I'm a little bit miffed that FreeBSD, Inc was > closed down to make way for an effort which really hasn't done > anything very visible yet, but I'm sure everyone involved has good > reasons for that. > > - Jordan where should we be looking for information on the foundation when it DOES start doing something? i was already interested in donating to FreeBSD, but hearing that the foundation has 501(c)3 status (which would make my donations tex-deductible) really sweetens the deal. so... will something go out to -announce? or what? -brian -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== | rbw aka bjp | god's final message to his creation: | | rbw@myplace.org | we apologize for the inconvenience. | ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 0:26:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E7A37B40B; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:25:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A57F30B4014E; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:25:51 -0700 Message-ID: <3B27157F.46836907@urx.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:25:51 -0700 From: Kent Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who is shoving all the old list email References: <200106121710.NAA01684@scraemondaemon.my.domain> <3B264DF9.FD568805@urx.com> <20010613100753.H97342@everest.wananchi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > * Kent Stewart [20010612 20:12]: writing on the subject 'Re: Who is shoving all the old list email' > Kent> > Kent> > Kent> "Ian P. Thomas" wrote: > Kent> > > Kent> > I got file from as far back as Jan. Is there a way of determining > Kent> > the location. The headers look the same as the new messages, nothing > Kent> > different. > Kent> > Kent> Look at tbe headers. They are all starting out in Kenya. > > Hi Kent, > > The postings came from my box!! Too bad for me. This was a result of > laxity on my side, leaving a running session on a box I run in the office > as a personal wkstation. > > Some good playing on my office box run a script that reposted the messages > from my mail archive!! I know it's too annoying and I have now removed his > shell account from the box, even though it's a company owned box. I can't > live with such embarassing situation anymore. I have also become stingy > with access to the box, because the final result has been that I can't > even rcv any responses to my own posts anymore - just like my address is > blocked by postfix!! > > Since I am not able to post directly to the list at the moment, please > forward this e-mail to the lists -questions, -isp, stable as a sign of my > sincere apologies for the 'ugly' incident. hehehe - I knew. I just wasn't going to mention names. I also knew something like this would show up when you saw what happened. Have fwd'ed as you requested. Kent > > -Wash > > -- > Odhiambo Washington > Wananchi Online Ltd., > wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse. > Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., > Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286,00100-NAIROBI,KE. > > To talk to someone who does not listen is enough to tense the devil. > -Pearl Bailey, "Talking to Myself" -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 0:38:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F26937B405 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5D7bw901521; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:37:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:37:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106130737.f5D7bw901521@earth.backplane.com> To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: darrylo@soco.agilent.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't get WC to bill me right! References: <20010613000151.9004.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> <200106130016.RAA24482@mina.soco.agilent.com> <20010612220754A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Folks, : :I wish I could say that the WindRiver transition had gone smoothly :from the perspective of ordering and fulfillment, but it clearly :hasn't. There have been serious delays induced in just about every :aspect of the CD publishing process and the orders dept has, for all :practical purposes, fallen apart. I've expressed my displeasure at :this state of affairs to all of the appropriate WindRiver folks and I :think they understand that they really need to fix this or the project :will undoubtedly be forced to explore other avenues of CDROM :publishing, such as Daemon News (who has already expressed a strong :interest). All I can say right now is that I'll keep pushing this and :continue to monitor the situation for signs of improvement. : :- Jordan I got my 4.3 CD set a few days ago, but Backplane Inc hasn't gotten its 4.3 set. Backplane has been on the subscription list since 4.1 or so (and me personally before that, of course). Just FYI, no rush or anything since of course I can PXEBOOT our Dell boxes and installworld through NFS mounts. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 1:14: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3F037B405 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 01:13:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5D8OSn08506; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 01:24:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200106130824.f5D8OSn08506@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Pete French Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Very odd clock problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:47:54 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 01:24:28 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Er, the system clock is not capable of representing the year 1933 (in any > > valid fashion). > > Well it surpised me too ! Can the system clock not take negative values > like time_t then ? (whatever type time_t happens to be this week :-) ) > I was assuming it was a signed 32 bit number and was getting set to > something like 0xBB000000 or thereabouts. Yes, it can *take* a negative value, but because it's typically manipulated through arithemetic with other time_t's, it'd be fairly hard for it to suddenly become large and negative by any legitimate means. > > This sounds like either memory corruption or an in-kernel sniper bug of > > some sort. You don't help the diagnosis any by saying "losing time" and > > then complaining about a "jump". The two are very different things, and > > you need to be much more specific about what is actually happening. > > Fair comment. > > What happens specificly is this: I get a user (and its always the same user) > who complains that the dates on his outgoing emails are being timestamped in > 1933. I login, type 'date' and sure enough it says it is a date in > 1933. I then reset the date. There is nothing in the log files to indicate > what has happened - other than the date on other messages jumping back > to sometime in May (the year isnt logged in /var/log/messages I assume, > but the month change is very obvious and I am assuming this co-incides > with the year date change). Why is it only this user? Are they your only user that cares? Or does the time step only happen when they are sending mail? > We were running ntpd, and stopped in case it was a corrupt ntp server > somewhere. That didnt help. We have also changed ntp servers to a different > set of machines. Once again to no effect. Could this be a clock > battery problem at all ? I wouldnt have thought the battery was used > with the machine powered up, but it is the only thing > I can think of off the top of my head. It happened again this morning, > there is no pattern to when the jumps occur that I can see. It's unlikely to be the clock battery; the clock is only read at startup; the system maintains time itself after that (keeping the clock in sync). I'm really at a loss here; as I said, it sounds like a very specific kernel sniper bug of some sort. 8( -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 4:45:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sgi04-e.std.com (sgi04-e.std.com [199.172.62.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9475837B401; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 04:45:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by sgi04-e.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA7455613; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA08631; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:45:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:45:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200106131145.HAA08631@world.std.com> To: bmah@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELNOTESng problems Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200106121443.KAA18844@world.std.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >To: Kenneth W Cochran >Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: RELNOTESng problems >From: "Bruce A. Mah" >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:13:39 -0700 > >If memory serves me right, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: >> With the recent move of RELNOTESng to -stable, what do we need >> to do to build/maintain this documentation along with source? > >If you want to build a copy locally, install the textproc/docproj port >and bring in the doc-all collection from current. You got that right >as far as I can tell. Ok; so far so good... >> For example, does {build,install}world take care of this? >> (Apparently not, but I'd appreciate The Official Word(tm). :) > >Well, I'm the guy who designed RELNOTESng, so I guess I count as >"official" (?!?). Indeed. Absolutely. :) >buildworld/installworld doesn't do this. I didn't even consider this, >because this would make buildworld and installworld take even longer >than they do now. :-) Ok; makes sense. In that case some explicit instructions as to How To Do This sould be a Good Thing(tm). :) This rings of /stand/sysinstall, which, btw, I've seen no instructions for building, other than the occasional mailing-list reminder(?) Kernel maintenance being separate from {build,install}world is well-documented, but sysinstall & now release-docs seem to not be. ?? >> I tried going to /usr/src/release/doc & then "make" & I'm >> getting what appear to be build-errors. Attached are the last >> several output lines from that make. As per instructions in >> /usr/src/release/doc/README, I have built textproc/docproj >> from fresh -ports & additionally brought doc-all current. > >We're kind of at a strange state right now; RELNOTESng for 4-STABLE is >broken (see my earlier heads-up) due to some other commits that took me >rather by surprise. I hope it'll get fixed soon (I know how to fix it, >but the fix depends on one or two decisions that are out of my hands.) Well, I'm somewhat relieved to know it's probably not (my) pilot-error... :) >I think I know what problem you're seeing, and I can fix it after this >other (bigger) breakage gets fixed. I have no idea why earlier testing >didn't catch this problem. Sorry about that! Ok; I'll be watching for updates... >> So, to restate my question: >> 1. How do I build/maintain -stable documentation? > >So far you seem to be doing the right thing. > >> 2. How (where) do I go to look at said documentation? > >When the build is done, you can point a Web browser at the subdirectorie >s under /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/ and read the HTML files >there. If you did the build with additional document FORMATS (i.e "make >'FORMATS=html pdf txt'") you'll see the other output files there as well. Excellent; I think it would be a Good Idea(tm) to place something like the above instructions in someplace like src/UPDATING or src/release/texts/*. Maybe it'll help head-off some mailing-list-semi-noise(?) :) >Alternatively you can just read the Web versions at: > >http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes/ > >The plan is for these to be moved into a more "official" spot on the >FreeBSD web site and automatically generated along with the Web site build. > >> Commentary: >> While I think the move to RELNOTESng is probably a Good Thing, >> I think deletion/removal of the ascii-plaintext versions from >> src/release/texts/* is probably Not Such A Good Thing. >> Additionally, I "question" the necessity of requiring tools >> "outside" the base-OS solely for reading the relevant release >> notes/errata. > >Noted. We debated this at some length on -doc when I was working on it. >The outcome of this debate was that we decided to put frequently-updated >versions of the release notes on the Web site (the URL I gave above is a >part of my testing process). I'd rather not rehash all the arguments >for this...you can see them in the -doc archives. So I guessed (lotsa discussion in some place like -doc); that's why I'm not sanguine to stirring up a ruckus, especially here on -stable. There are Good Reasons(tm) for having done this; I guess it's safe to say that there are still a few "rough edges." :) -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 4:50:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fjord.dignus.com (sdsl-66-80-58-206.dsl.lax.megapath.net [66.80.58.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D82C37B40E for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 04:49:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by fjord.dignus.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5DBnAo01597; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:49:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id HAA17496; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:51:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:51:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <200106131151.HAA17496@lakes.dignus.com> To: darrylo@soco.agilent.com, jkh@osd.bsdi.com Subject: Re: Can't get WC to bill me right! Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010612220754A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan wrote: > > From: Darryl Okahata > Subject: Re: Can't get WC to bill me right! > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:16:58 -0700 > > > Gerd Knops wrote: > > > > > Same fate here. EMails and phone calls did not help. Guess I will > > > cancel my subscription, hate to support incompetence. There are > > > probably better ways than a subscription to support FreeBSD anyway. > > > > I'm in a similar situation. I moved a few months ago, changed my > > address via their web page, and they're still sending CDs to the old > > address (and they're still using my old email address, even though I'd > > Folks, > > I wish I could say that the WindRiver transition had gone smoothly > from the perspective of ordering and fulfillment, but it clearly > hasn't. There have been serious delays induced in just about every > aspect of the CD publishing process and the orders dept has, for all > practical purposes, fallen apart. I've expressed my displeasure at > this state of affairs to all of the appropriate WindRiver folks and I > think they understand that they really need to fix this or the project > will undoubtedly be forced to explore other avenues of CDROM > publishing, such as Daemon News (who has already expressed a strong > interest). All I can say right now is that I'll keep pushing this and > continue to monitor the situation for signs of improvement. > > - Jordan I had a discussions with WindRiver about this very point... the fact that I had already submitted changes to the billing web site and that I was still receiving notices, etc... After a wonderful chat - it turns out the fulfillment staff has been reduced to 1 person... who is quite literally swamped. (I can't seem to recall her name...) But, let me say, in a very positive tone - that chatting with her was very pleasant and that she was able to dig out my information, get everything changed, and in the very next day my 4.3-RELEASE CD was shipped. Also - if I understand correct - this is a *temporary* situation, and the plan is to add staff to help with this problem. If you continue to have problems, I'm sure you will meet with the same success I did when I actually called WindRiver... call WindRiver and ask for the FreeBSD fullfillment representative... Remember, as always - a company transition is going to have some rough spots, etc... I'm sure they will iron this out. - Dave Rivers - -- rivers@dignus.com Work: (919) 676-0847 Get your mainframe programming tools at http://www.dignus.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 6:27:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [209.16.107.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA5E37B401 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 06:27:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f5DDSBJ04103; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:28:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:28:11 -0400 From: Jamie Norwood To: mistwolf@mushhaven.net Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installworld woes Message-ID: <20010613092811.A3862@mushhaven.net> References: <20010613000054.A347@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010613000054.A347@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net>; from root@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net on Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 12:00:54AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG And this is why you shouldn't mail mailing lists at 12am. Apologies for it coming out as root and not mistwolf@mushhaven.net. *SIGH* On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 12:00:54AM -0400, Charlie & wrote: > > So I check the lists, check the bug reports, so on, see that things > should be, for what matters to me, stable in -STABLE. rm /usr/obj > and /usr/src and cvsup a clean tree from stable-supfile. Buildworld > with no problem. Installworld dies. :( I get: > > ===> bin > ===> bin/cat > install -C -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 cat /bin > install: mkstemp: /bin/INS@f5rU for /bin/cat: Operation not permitted > *** Error code 71 > > Stop in /usr/src/bin/cat. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/bin. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > I can not find a way to fix this, or anyone else with this problem. System > is upgrading from 4.3-BETA. When I first got the error, re-read the handbook > to see if I was missing something, only thing I found was to installkernel > the new kernel before rebooting. Did that, no help. > > So... Help? Sorry this is turse, I am exhausted after beating on this six > hours. Soplease, please, somone shed a ray of light on this. > > Jamie > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 6:45: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [209.16.107.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32A737B403 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 06:45:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f5DDjHg04317; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:45:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:45:17 -0400 From: Jamie Norwood To: Dima Dorfman Cc: Charlie & , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installworld woes Message-ID: <20010613094517.A4260@mushhaven.net> References: <20010613000054.A347@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net> <20010613041709.611FA3E0B@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010613041709.611FA3E0B@bazooka.unixfreak.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 09:17:09PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 09:17:09PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Charlie & writes: > > ===> bin > > ===> bin/cat > > install -C -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 cat /bin > > install: mkstemp: /bin/INS@f5rU for /bin/cat: Operation not permitted > > *** Error code 71 > > /bin, /bin/cat, or both have the schg flag set. Unset it and it will > work. For more information, see securelevel(7), chflags(1), and the > FAQ entires on "securelevel" and "unsetting the schg flag". They > should be in the "system administration" section. ARGH. Would you believe I checked that for the files and not the directory? No idea how/when that got set, but it was the problem. Thank you. :> Jamie > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/bin/cat. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/bin. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > I can not find a way to fix this, or anyone else with this problem. System > > is upgrading from 4.3-BETA. When I first got the error, re-read the handbook > > to see if I was missing something, only thing I found was to installkernel > > the new kernel before rebooting. Did that, no help. > > > > So... Help? Sorry this is turse, I am exhausted after beating on this six > > hours. Soplease, please, somone shed a ray of light on this. > > > > Jamie > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 8: 6:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2ainfo.it (ppp43.2ainfo.it [151.39.235.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7DB37B403 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from filippo@2ainfo.it) Received: (from filippo@localhost) by 2ainfo.it (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5DFCVD10195 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:12:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from filippo) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:11:49 +0200 From: Filippo Moretti To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: problem installing wrapper Message-ID: <20010613171149.A10043@2ainfo.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cannot install wrapper from ports as it exit with the following error ===> wrapper-1.0_1 is forbidden This port is for XFree86-4 and I just succeded installing 4.1.0_3 any suggestion appreciated Filippo PS: 4.3-STABLE on i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 8:14:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.databits.net [207.29.192.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5BD1437B408 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:14:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petef@hex.databits.net) Received: (qmail 12852 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Jun 2001 15:14:07 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:14:07 -0400 From: Pete Fritchman To: Filippo Moretti Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problem installing wrapper Message-ID: <20010613111407.B12427@databits.net> References: <20010613171149.A10043@2ainfo.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010613171149.A10043@2ainfo.it>; from gunnut@2ainfo.it on Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 05:11:49PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In /etc/make.conf, put: XFREE86_VERSION= 4 ... then try again. -pete ++ 13/06/01 17:11 +0200 - Filippo Moretti: | I cannot install wrapper from ports as it exit with the following error | ===> wrapper-1.0_1 is forbidden This port is for XFree86-4 | and I just succeded installing 4.1.0_3 | any suggestion appreciated | Filippo | PS: 4.3-STABLE on i386 | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Pete Fritchman Databits Network Services, Inc. finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 8:45:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.gubkin-rgu.ac.ru (ns.gubkin-rgu.ac.ru [193.233.5.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873A337B407 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:45:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billing@gubkin.ru) Received: from oberon (megastar.gubkin.ru [193.233.5.4]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by ns.gubkin-rgu.ac.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5DFjFH71869 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO) for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:45:18 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <02c901c0f428$3051a4a0$0302030a@cit.gubkin.ru> From: "billing" To: Subject: help Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:44:58 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ ! phisto. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 8:57:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2ainfo.it (ppp43.2ainfo.it [151.39.235.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36AF37B408 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:57:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from filippo@2ainfo.it) Received: (from filippo@localhost) by 2ainfo.it (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5DG3Gu11326 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:03:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from filippo) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:02:36 +0200 From: Filippo Moretti To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problem installing wrapper Message-ID: <20010613180235.A11304@2ainfo.it> References: <20010613171149.A10043@2ainfo.it> <20010613111407.B12427@databits.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010613111407.B12427@databits.net>; from petef@databits.net on Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 11:14:07AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 11:14:07AM -0400, Pete Fritchman wrote: > In /etc/make.conf, put: > > XFREE86_VERSION= 4 > > ... then try again. It did work all right thank you Filippo > > -pete > > > -- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 9:16:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gactr.uga.edu (mail.gactr.uga.edu [128.192.37.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DCFAC37B403 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:16:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu) Received: (qmail 1819 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2001 11:15:54 -0000 Received: from qat.noc.nat (HELO gactr.uga.edu) ([10.10.100.125]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.servers.nat (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Jun 2001 11:15:54 -0000 Message-ID: <3B2791A8.8CB334E@gactr.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:15:36 -0400 From: "Robin P. Blanchard" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gigabit woes References: <3B2647E0.E40A2339@gactr.uga.edu> <20010612190345.A20019@skriver.dk> <3B265155.ACE63DEF@gactr.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG new findings on this problem... so i decided to try the card(s) (3com and intel) in another, older dell poweredge 4300. before installing the card, i wanted to test the performance on the already installed 100Mb intel card (fxp). using the same test, i was getting around 10.3MB/s. that done, i reconfigured the kernel to support the ti device, disabled the fxp ifconfig entry in rc.conf, enabling ti instead, shut the box down, installed the card and rebooted. i ran the same test again (now using the gig interface) and wound up with a whopping 2.67 MB/s. everything looks fine at the switch, and freebsd is not complaining. so i decided to revert back to the 100Mb interface (at least i'll get 10 MB/s) by disabling the ti ifconfig entry in rc.conf and enabling fxp again. reboot. run my test again (again on fxp) and i find i'm getting 2.67 MB/s now -- consistently. what? so i remove the ti device from the kernel config and remove the card from the system. still 2.67 MB/s on the fxp interface. i am very curious to hear any hypotheses on this. and yes, i also only get 2.67 MB/s on the gig interface if it is alone in the system. > ok. currently in our dell poweredge 4350 there is a 3com 3c985b with > alteon-2 chipset plugged into a 64-bit pci slot. the kernel is built > to use the ti driver (with kernel NMBCLUSTERS set to 16896). > this is directly connected to a gig port on our extreme black diamond. > a basic ip test of ftping to a known functional gig interface > (an SGI origin 2000 also directly attached to our black diamond -- the > same test on this interface with a similar interface on a separate > module of this SGI box yields 12.183MB/s) yields a mere 2.37MB/s. > both the gig port on the black diamond and the nic in the freebsd box > are auto-negotiating. > > relevant /etc/sysctl.conf: > net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1 > net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536 > net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 > net.inet.udp.sendspace=65536 > net.inet.udp.recvspace=65536 > > relevant /etc/rc.conf: > icmp_drop_redirect="YES" > inetd_enable="NO" > kern_securelevel_enable="NO" > moused_enable="NO" > nfs_client_enable="YES" > ntpdate_enable="YES" > ntpdate_flags="10.10.10.11" > sendmail_enable="NO" > sshd_enable="NO" > tcp_drop_synfin="YES" > tcp_extensions="YES" > tcp_keepalive="YES" > usbd_enable="NO" > > we get similarly poor performance if we swap the 3com with an intel. > > more performance tuning suggestions are extremely welcomed. > thanks in advance. -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 9:30:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skyshroud.enchantress.ca (skyshroud.enchantress.ca [24.108.91.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F5FD37B403 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:29:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darren@enchantress.ca) Received: (qmail 46165 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2001 16:30:41 -0000 Received: from argothian.enchantress.ab.ca (HELO Darren) (10.200.200.4) by Skyshroud with SMTP; 13 Jun 2001 16:30:41 -0000 Message-ID: <045401c0f426$4a45d900$04c8c80a@enchantress.ab.ca> From: "Darren Gamble" Cc: References: <20010608134705.19635.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com> <004001c0f030$36a0d3e0$0600020a@frontend> <20010612120958.G10614@tao.org.uk> <20010613102058.F5486@wantadilla.lemis.com> Subject: Problems with mergemaster Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:31:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Good day, I have recently (finally) been able to do a make build/installworld on one of my test systems with the Stable tree. However, mergemaster does not appear to be working properly. Possibly related is the fact that I am using the -m flag since my source is not in the standard location (there was not enough room under /usr to keep all of the source and compile it, even after deleting ports and such). Attached is the entire output for completeness sake. For each file, I get *** Problem installing ./foo , it will remain to merge by hand Furthermore, on subsequent runs mergemaster ignores these files completely, thinking that they have already been updated What might be the problem? Running mergemaster with the -v flag does not supply any more output. And, assuming the problem is located, what will I need to do to have mergemaster examine these files again? Thanks in advance. I would prefer to not to have to go through the chore of doing all of this by hand and possibly making a mistake. # mergemaster -m /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/ *** The directory specified for the temporary root environment, /var/tmp/temproot, exists. This can be a security risk if untrusted users have access to the system. Use 'd' to delete the old /var/tmp/temproot and continue Use 't' to select a new temporary root directory Use 'e' to exit mergemaster Default is to use /var/tmp/temproot as is How should I deal with this? 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ftpusers gettytab group hosts hosts.allow host.conf hosts.equiv hosts.lpd inetd.conf login.access login.conf motd modems networks newsyslog.conf pam.conf phones printcap profile protocols rc rc.atm rc.devfs rc.diskless1 rc.diskless2 rc.firewall rc.firewall6 rc.isdn rc.network rc.network6 rc.pccard rc.serial rc.shutdown rc.syscons rc.sysctl remote rpc security services shells syslog.conf usbd.conf etc.i386/disktab etc.i386/rc.i386 etc.i386/ttys /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/../gnu/usr.bin/man/manpath/manpath.config /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/../usr.bin/mail/misc/mail.rc /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/../usr.bin/locate/locate/locate.rc /var/tmp/temproot/etc; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 755 netstart pccard_ether rc.suspend rc.resume /var/tmp/temproot/etc; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 defaults/rc.conf /var/tmp/temproot/etc/defaults/; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 defaults/make.conf /var/tmp/temproot/etc/defaults/; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 defaults/pccard.conf /var/tmp/temproot/etc/defaults/; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 defaults/periodic.conf /var/tmp/temproot/etc/defaults/; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 600 /dev/null /var/tmp/temproot/var/log/cron; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 600 master.passwd /var/tmp/temproot/etc; ( cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/periodic; make install ); ( cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/../gnu/usr.bin/send-pr; make etc-gnats-freefall ); ( cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/../share/termcap; make etc-termcap ); ( cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/../usr.sbin/rmt; make etc-rmt ); ( cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/isdn; make install ); pwd_mkdb -p -d /var/tmp/temproot/etc /var/tmp/temproot/etc/master.passwd; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 MAKEDEV.local MAKEDEV /var/tmp/temproot/dev ) ===> daily install -c -o root -g wheel -m 755 100.clean-disks 110.clean-tmps 120.clean-preserve 130.clean-msgs 140.clean-rwho 150.clean-hoststat 200.backup-passwd 210.backup-aliases 220.backup-distfile 300.calendar 310.accounting 320.rdist 330.news 400.status-disks 420.status-network 430.status-rwho 440.status-mailq 450.status-security 460.status-mail-rejects 470.status-named 500.queuerun 999.local 340.uucp 410.status-uucp /var/tmp/temproot/etc/periodic/daily ===> weekly install -c -o root -g wheel -m 755 120.clean-kvmdb 310.locate 320.whatis 330.catman 340.noid 400.status-pkg 999.local 300.uucp /var/tmp/temproot/etc/periodic/weekly ===> monthly install -c -o root -g wheel -m 755 200.accounting 999.local /var/tmp/temproot/etc/periodic/monthly install -c -o root -g wheel -m 0644 /home/darren/cvsup/src/gnu/usr.bin/send-pr/categories /var/tmp/temproot/etc/gnats/freefall rm -f /var/tmp/temproot/etc/termcap ln -s /usr/share/misc/termcap /var/tmp/temproot/etc/termcap rm -f /var/tmp/temproot/etc/rmt ln -s /usr/sbin/rmt /var/tmp/temproot/etc/rmt for i in answer isdntel.sh record tell tell-record ; do install -c -o root -g wheel -m 700 $i /var/tmp/temproot/etc/isdn ; done ; for i in isdnd.rates.D isdnd.rates.F isdnd.rates.UK.BT isdnd.rc.sample isdntel.alias.sample ; do install -c -o root -g wheel -m 600 $i /var/tmp/temproot/etc/isdn ; done ( cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/sendmail; make distribution ); install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc /var/tmp/temproot/etc/mail/freebsd.mc install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 freebsd.cf /var/tmp/temproot/etc/mail/freebsd.cf install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 freebsd.cf /var/tmp/temproot/etc/mail/sendmail.cf install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/helpfile /var/tmp/temproot/etc/mail/helpfile install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 /dev/null /var/tmp/temproot/var/log/sendmail.st ( cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/../gnu/libexec/uucp/sample; make install ) install -c -o uucp -g uucp -m 440 call.sample config.sample dial.sample dialcode.sample passwd.sample port.sample sys1.sample sys2.sample /var/tmp/temproot/etc/uucp (cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/../crypto/openssh/ssh_config /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/../crypto/openssh/sshd_config primes /var/tmp/temproot/etc/ssh ) (cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/../crypto/openssl/apps/openssl.cnf /var/tmp/temproot/etc/ssl ) (cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/root; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 dot.cshrc /var/tmp/temproot/root/.cshrc; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 dot.klogin /var/tmp/temproot/root/.klogin; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 dot.login /var/tmp/temproot/root/.login; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 dot.profile /var/tmp/temproot/root/.profile; rm -f /var/tmp/temproot/.cshrc /var/tmp/temproot/.profile; ln /var/tmp/temproot/root/.cshrc /var/tmp/temproot/.cshrc; ln /var/tmp/temproot/root/.profile /var/tmp/temproot/.profile) cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/mtree; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 BSD.include.dist BSD.local.dist BSD.root.dist BSD.usr.dist BSD.var.dist BSD.x11.dist BSD.x11-4.dist /var/tmp/temproot/etc/mtree cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/namedb; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 PROTO.localhost.rev named.conf named.root make-localhost /var/tmp/temproot/etc/namedb cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/ppp; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 ppp.deny ppp.shells.sample /var/tmp/temproot/etc/ppp cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/ppp; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 600 ppp.conf /var/tmp/temproot/etc/ppp cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/mail; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 Makefile README mailer.conf access.sample virtusertable.sample mailertable.sample aliases /var/tmp/temproot/etc/mail + ln -s mail/aliases /var/tmp/temproot/etc/aliases install -c -o root -g operator -m 664 /dev/null /var/tmp/temproot/etc/dumpdates install -c -o nobody -g wheel -m 644 /dev/null /var/tmp/temproot/var/db/locate.database install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 /dev/null /var/tmp/temproot/var/log/lpd-errs install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 /dev/null /var/tmp/temproot/var/log/maillog install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 /dev/null /var/tmp/temproot/var/log/lastlog install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 /dev/null /var/tmp/temproot/var/log/messages install -c -o root -g wheel -m 600 /dev/null /var/tmp/temproot/var/log/security install -c -o root -g wheel -m 600 /dev/null /var/tmp/temproot/var/log/slip.log install -c -o root -g wheel -m 600 /dev/null /var/tmp/temproot/var/log/ppp.log install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 /dev/null /var/tmp/temproot/var/log/wtmp install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 /dev/null /var/tmp/temproot/var/run/utmp install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/minfree /var/tmp/temproot/var/crash (cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/..; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 COPYRIGHT /var/tmp/temproot/) (cd /home/darren/cvsup/src/etc/../share/man; make makedb; ) makewhatis /var/tmp/temproot/usr/share/man makewhatis /var/tmp/temproot/usr/share/perl/man *** Beginning comparison *** Temp ./dev/MAKEDEV.local and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** Temp ./dev/MAKEDEV and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** Temp ./etc/defaults/rc.conf and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** Temp ./etc/defaults/make.conf and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** Temp ./etc/defaults/pccard.conf and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** Temp ./etc/defaults/periodic.conf and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** Temp ./etc/gnats/freefall and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** Temp ./etc/isdn/answer and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** Temp ./etc/isdn/isdntel.sh and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** Temp ./etc/isdn/record and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** Temp ./etc/isdn/tell and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** Displaying differences between ./etc/isdn/tell-record and installed version: --- /etc/isdn/tell-record Mon Nov 20 05:03:05 2000 +++ ./etc/isdn/tell-record Wed Jun 13 08:30:25 2001 @@ -4,9 +4,9 @@ # tell called and calling numbers answer script for i4b isdnd # ----------------------------------------------------------- # -# $FreeBSD: src/etc/isdn/tell-record,v 1.4 1999/09/13 15:44:20 sheldonh Exp $ +# $FreeBSD: src/etc/isdn/tell-record,v 1.4.2.1 2001/03/06 02:42:05 obrien Exp $ # -# last edit-date: [Thu May 20 11:45:21 1999] +# last edit-date: [Tue Oct 31 10:59:49 2000] # #--------------------------------------------------------------------------- VARDIR=/var/isdn @@ -86,4 +86,4 @@ dd of=${DEVICE} if=${LIBDIR}/beep.al bs=2k >/dev/null 2>&1 fi -dd if=${DEVICE} of=${VARDIR}/recorded.msg bs=2k +dd if=${DEVICE} of=${VARDIR}/recorded.msg bs=2k >/dev/null 2>&1 Use 'd' to delete the temporary ./etc/isdn/tell-record Use 'i' to install the temporary ./etc/isdn/tell-record Use 'm' to merge the temporary and installed versions Use 'v' to view the diff results again Default is to leave the temporary file to deal with by hand How should I deal with this? [Leave it for later] i *** Problem installing ./etc/isdn/tell-record, it will remain to merge by hand *** Temp ./etc/isdn/isdnd.rates.D and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** Temp ./etc/isdn/isdnd.rates.F and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** Temp ./etc/isdn/isdnd.rates.UK.BT and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** Temp ./etc/isdn/isdnd.rc.sample and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** Temp ./etc/isdn/isdntel.alias.sample and installed have the same CVS Id, deleting *** There is no installed version of ./etc/mail/freebsd.mc Use 'd' to delete the temporary ./etc/mail/freebsd.mc Use 'i' to install the temporary ./etc/mail/freebsd.mc Default is to leave the temporary file to deal with by hand How should I deal with this? [Leave it for later] i *** Problem installing ./etc/mail/freebsd.mc, it will remain to merge by hand To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 9:32:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8154E37B403 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:32:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 8233 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Jun 2001 16:33:12 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:33:12 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: "Hartmann, O." , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD - Linux curiosity Message-ID: <20010613183312.E6788@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20010612210644.03238a25.steveo@eircom.net> <20010612213002.782e83df.steveo@eircom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mR8QP4gmHujQHb1c" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010612213002.782e83df.steveo@eircom.net>; from steveo@eircom.net on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 09:30:02PM +0200 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --mR8QP4gmHujQHb1c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve O'Hara-Smith(steveo@eircom.net)@2001.06.12 21:30:02 +0000: > OK, try dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/ad0c bs=3D1024k count=3D1. If that d= oesn't > wipe all traces I don't know what will :) omit the "count=3D1" and kill the whole disk, maybe the raid firmware has a serious bug ;-) /k --=20 > Great Lover, n.: A man who can breathe through his ears. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 --mR8QP4gmHujQHb1c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7J5XIM0BPTilkv0YRAqWUAKCuK511U9W2EiTA5HnwTyp+keHnwwCfQYnr Hecsk29ZVbPuWm5avbR7doI= =6nAy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mR8QP4gmHujQHb1c-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 9:44:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com [171.71.163.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC08A37B40B; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:44:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f5DGiCk12065; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5DGhoH42510; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:43:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106131643.f5DGhoH42510@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4+ 06/08/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELNOTESng problems In-Reply-To: <200106131145.HAA08631@world.std.com> References: <200106121443.KAA18844@world.std.com> <200106131145.HAA08631@world.std.com> Comments: In-reply-to Kenneth W Cochran message dated "Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:45:39 -0400." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1560851138P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:43:50 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-1560851138P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > >buildworld/installworld doesn't do this. I didn't even consider this, > >because this would make buildworld and installworld take even longer > >than they do now. :-) > > Ok; makes sense. In that case some explicit instructions > as to How To Do This sould be a Good Thing(tm). :) I *thought* I did this in src/release/doc/README but maybe I didn't give enough details. I'll see what I can do about this..... > This rings of /stand/sysinstall, which, btw, I've seen no > instructions for building, other than the occasional > mailing-list reminder(?) http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html has a section on "Update /stand". > Kernel maintenance being separate from {build,install}world > is well-documented, but sysinstall & now release-docs seem > to not be. ?? sysinstall is fine. I wonder if the makeworld instructions should now mention the release documentation. > >When the build is done, you can point a Web browser at the subdirectorie > >s under /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/ and read the HTML files > >there. If you did the build with additional document FORMATS (i.e "make > >'FORMATS=html pdf txt'") you'll see the other output files there as well. > > Excellent; I think it would be a Good Idea(tm) to place > something like the above instructions in someplace like > src/UPDATING or src/release/texts/*. Maybe it'll help > head-off some mailing-list-semi-noise(?) :) src/release/texts/README points you to src/release/doc/README. src/release/doc/README has some instructions that perhaps don't give as much detail as they should. :-p I'll ask imp to put an item in src/UPDATING about RELNOTESng for both -CURRENT and 4-STABLE. > So I guessed (lotsa discussion in some place like -doc); > that's why I'm not sanguine to stirring up a ruckus, > especially here on -stable. There are Good Reasons(tm) for > having done this; I guess it's safe to say that there are > still a few "rough edges." :) You bet. Thanks for your comments...we'll try to get better... Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1560851138P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7J5hG2MoxcVugUsMRAmMwAKC1iyeNBCPoWn6LFsOrArGmA3XyaQCgs9v7 MdWt89BizhOJxS58KUV+uF4= =RExY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1560851138P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 10: 0:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D76437B403 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:00:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5DGxst34408; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:59:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: rbw@myplace.org Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making donations easier (was Re: Can't get WC to bill me right!) In-Reply-To: <20010612230637.E49978@malkavian.org> References: <20010612205910.M3751-100000@germanium.xtalwind.net> <20010612221348H.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010612230637.E49978@malkavian.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010613095954M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:59:54 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 37 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I hate to say it, but I honestly have no idea. As I've said before, I have absolutely nothing to do with the FreeBSD Foundation and I don't know when or if it plans to solicit contributions. - Jordan From: "brian j. peterson" Subject: Re: Making donations easier (was Re: Can't get WC to bill me right!) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:06:37 -0700 > On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:13:48PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > We really need to remove that URL as well, though anything sent to it > > for now will simply be forwarded to the foundation (I believe it was > > around $900 last year). Donations directly to the foundation will, > > however, get you a tax credit so you really should do that instead. > > Pity the Foundation board hasn't seen fit to provide much information > > on this yet. Yeah, I'm a little bit miffed that FreeBSD, Inc was > > closed down to make way for an effort which really hasn't done > > anything very visible yet, but I'm sure everyone involved has good > > reasons for that. > > > > - Jordan > > where should we be looking for information on the foundation when it DOES > start doing something? i was already interested in donating to FreeBSD, > but hearing that the foundation has 501(c)3 status (which would make my > donations tex-deductible) really sweetens the deal. > > so... will something go out to -announce? or what? > > -brian > > -- > --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== > | rbw aka bjp | god's final message to his creation: | > | rbw@myplace.org | we apologize for the inconvenience. | > ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 10: 1: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailb.telia.com (mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E4D37B405 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:00:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07541 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:00:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA29733 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:00:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 73186 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Jun 2001 17:00:23 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:00:23 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with mergemaster Message-ID: <20010613190023.A72149@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010608134705.19635.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com> <004001c0f030$36a0d3e0$0600020a@frontend> <20010612120958.G10614@tao.org.uk> <20010613102058.F5486@wantadilla.lemis.com> <045401c0f426$4a45d900$04c8c80a@enchantress.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <045401c0f426$4a45d900$04c8c80a@enchantress.ab.ca>; from darren@enchantress.ca on Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 10:31:25AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 10:31:25AM -0600, Darren Gamble wrote: > Good day, > > I have recently (finally) been able to do a make build/installworld on one > of my test systems with the Stable tree. > > However, mergemaster does not appear to be working properly. Possibly > related is the fact that I am using the -m flag since my source is not in > the standard location (there was not enough room under /usr to keep all of > the source and compile it, even after deleting ports and such). Attached is > the entire output for completeness sake. > > For each file, I get > > *** Problem installing ./foo , it will remain to merge by hand > > Furthermore, on subsequent runs mergemaster ignores these files completely, > thinking that they have already been updated > > What might be the problem? Running mergemaster with the -v flag does not > supply any more output. And, assuming the problem is located, what will I > need to do to have mergemaster examine these files again? > > Thanks in advance. I would prefer to not to have to go through the chore of > doing all of this by hand and possibly making a mistake. > I have seen that error as well. It appears that this is some recently introduced bug in mergemaster (or, possibly, some program that mergemaster uses). Mergemaster seems to actually install those files correctly but complains anyway. This is the reason it ignores them on subsequent runs. You can probably ignore that message and assume that everything worked correctly. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 10: 6:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [209.16.107.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D71637B401 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5DH6t121048 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:06:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:06:55 -0400 From: Jamie Norwood To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with mergemaster Message-ID: <20010613130655.A15641@mushhaven.net> References: <20010608134705.19635.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com> <004001c0f030$36a0d3e0$0600020a@frontend> <20010612120958.G10614@tao.org.uk> <20010613102058.F5486@wantadilla.lemis.com> <045401c0f426$4a45d900$04c8c80a@enchantress.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <045401c0f426$4a45d900$04c8c80a@enchantress.ab.ca>; from darren@enchantress.ca on Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 10:31:25AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 10:31:25AM -0600, Darren Gamble wrote: > Good day, > > For each file, I get > > *** Problem installing ./foo , it will remain to merge by hand > I got this too, and ignored it. They merged fine for me, which would be why it ignored them subsequently. Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 10:37:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gactr.uga.edu (mail.gactr.uga.edu [128.192.37.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 70D1F37B409 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:37:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu) Received: (qmail 8907 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2001 12:36:59 -0000 Received: from qat.noc.nat (HELO gactr.uga.edu) ([10.10.100.125]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.servers.nat (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Jun 2001 12:36:59 -0000 Message-ID: <3B27A4A9.8451D824@gactr.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:36:41 -0400 From: "Robin P. Blanchard" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gigabit woes References: <3B2647E0.E40A2339@gactr.uga.edu> <20010612190345.A20019@skriver.dk> <3B265155.ACE63DEF@gactr.uga.edu> <3B2791A8.8CB334E@gactr.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG yet more findings: entirely removed the intel 100Mb nic as well as the 3com 1000Mb nic. installed a 3com 100Mb nic (device xl); edited my kernel appropriately, removed my old kernel build-tree, rebuilt the kernel and rebooted. same test, still at 2.67 MB/s. both ends are showing no errors whatsoever and are both reporting connection as 100MB full-duplex. this is becoming more and more bizarre. input is appreciated. > new findings on this problem... > > so i decided to try the card(s) (3com and intel) in another, older > dell poweredge 4300. before installing the card, i wanted to test > the performance on the already installed 100Mb intel card (fxp). > using the same test, i was getting around 10.3MB/s. that done, i > reconfigured the kernel to support the ti device, disabled > the fxp ifconfig entry in rc.conf, enabling ti instead, shut > the box down, installed the card and rebooted. i ran the same > test again (now using the gig interface) and wound up with a whopping > 2.67 MB/s. everything looks fine at the switch, and freebsd is not > complaining. so i decided to revert back to the 100Mb interface > (at least i'll get 10 MB/s) by disabling the ti ifconfig entry in > rc.conf and enabling fxp again. reboot. run my test again (again on fxp) > and i find i'm getting 2.67 MB/s now -- consistently. what? > so i remove the ti device from the kernel config and remove the > card from the system. still 2.67 MB/s on the fxp interface. > i am very curious to hear any hypotheses on this. > > and yes, i also only get 2.67 MB/s on the gig interface if it is alone > in the system. > > > ok. currently in our dell poweredge 4350 there is a 3com 3c985b with > > alteon-2 chipset plugged into a 64-bit pci slot. the kernel is built > > to use the ti driver (with kernel NMBCLUSTERS set to 16896). > > this is directly connected to a gig port on our extreme black diamond. > > a basic ip test of ftping to a known functional gig interface > > (an SGI origin 2000 also directly attached to our black diamond -- the > > same test on this interface with a similar interface on a separate > > module of this SGI box yields 12.183MB/s) yields a mere 2.37MB/s. > > both the gig port on the black diamond and the nic in the freebsd box > > are auto-negotiating. > > > > relevant /etc/sysctl.conf: > > net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1 > > net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536 > > net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 > > net.inet.udp.sendspace=65536 > > net.inet.udp.recvspace=65536 > > > > relevant /etc/rc.conf: > > icmp_drop_redirect="YES" > > inetd_enable="NO" > > kern_securelevel_enable="NO" > > moused_enable="NO" > > nfs_client_enable="YES" > > ntpdate_enable="YES" > > ntpdate_flags="10.10.10.11" > > sendmail_enable="NO" > > sshd_enable="NO" > > tcp_drop_synfin="YES" > > tcp_extensions="YES" > > tcp_keepalive="YES" > > usbd_enable="NO" > > > > we get similarly poor performance if we swap the 3com with an intel. > > > > more performance tuning suggestions are extremely welcomed. > > thanks in advance. > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Robin P. Blanchard > IT Program Specialist > Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. > fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 > email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu > ------------------------------------ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 10:45:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apocalypse.cdsnet.net (apocalypse.cdsnet.net [63.163.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A5B537B40F for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:44:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrcpu@apocalypse.cdsnet.net) Received: (qmail 11599 invoked by uid 29999); 13 Jun 2001 17:45:13 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:45:13 -0700 From: Jaye Mathisen To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Can't newfs big filesystem (twe/4.3-stable) Message-ID: <20010613104512.M51977@apocalypse.cdsnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Trying to newfs the following fs is giving me fits: newsfeed-inn# disklabel -r twed0 # /dev/twed0c: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 65418 sectors/unit: 1050940800 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 1050940800 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 65418*) d: 1050940800 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 65418*) Frankly, I need a whopping about 10 files on this FS, but: newsfeed-inn# newfs -i 67108864 /dev/twed0d [stuff deleted] 1048576032, 1048641568, 1048707104, 1048772640, 1048838176, 1048903712, 1048969248, 1049034784, 1049100320, 1049165856, 1049231392, 1049296928, 1049362464, 1049428000, 1049493536, 1049559072, 1049624608, 1049690144, 1049755680, 1049821216, 1049886752, 1049952288, 1050017824, 1050083360, 1050148896, 1050214432, 1050279968, 1050345504, 1050411040, 1050476576, 1050542112, 1050607648, 1050673184, 1050738720, 1050804256, 1050869792, 1050935328 fsinit: inode value out of range (2). Tried larger -i parameters, same thing. Can't newfs figure this out before it gets to this point that something isn't going to work? I'll try some different block/frag sizes, see if it helps. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 13:28:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BA337B414; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:28:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04827; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:28:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:28:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200106132028.QAA04827@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: darren@enchantress.ca Subject: Re: Problems with mergemaster X-Newsgroups: mit.lcs.mail.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: References: Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, dougb@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article you write: > *** Problem installing ./foo , it will remain to merge by hand That's because someone(tm) removed the `-c' options to `install' from the -stable version of mergemaster, even though the -stable version of `install' still needs them. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 13:42:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dc-mx08.cluster1.charter.net (dc-mx08.cluster0.hsacorp.net [209.225.8.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3C637B405 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:42:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.157.193] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by dc-mx08.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.6) with SMTP id 8529335; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:48:37 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Dave Uhring To: Jaye Mathisen , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't newfs big filesystem (twe/4.3-stable) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:42:31 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20010613104512.M51977@apocalypse.cdsnet.net> In-Reply-To: <20010613104512.M51977@apocalypse.cdsnet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061315423100.00790@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday 13 June 2001 12:45, Jaye Mathisen wrote: > Trying to newfs the following fs is giving me fits: > > newsfeed-inn# disklabel -r twed0 > # /dev/twed0c: > bytes/sector: 512 > sectors/track: 63 > tracks/cylinder: 255 > sectors/cylinder: 16065 > cylinders: 65418 > sectors/unit: 1050940800 > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > c: 1050940800 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. > 0 - 65418*) d: 1050940800 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 > # (Cyl. 0 - 65418*) > > Frankly, I need a whopping about 10 files on this FS, but: > > > newsfeed-inn# newfs -i 67108864 /dev/twed0d > [stuff deleted] > 1048576032, 1048641568, 1048707104, 1048772640, 1048838176, 1048903712, > 1048969248, 1049034784, 1049100320, 1049165856, 1049231392, 1049296928, > 1049362464, 1049428000, 1049493536, 1049559072, 1049624608, 1049690144, > 1049755680, 1049821216, 1049886752, 1049952288, 1050017824, 1050083360, > 1050148896, 1050214432, 1050279968, 1050345504, 1050411040, 1050476576, > 1050542112, 1050607648, 1050673184, 1050738720, 1050804256, 1050869792, > 1050935328 > fsinit: inode value out of range (2). > > Tried larger -i parameters, same thing. > > > Can't newfs figure this out before it gets to this point that something > isn't going to work? > > I'll try some different block/frag sizes, see if it helps. > Just curious, where did you find a 501GB hard drive? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 13:45:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from globalrelay.com (h216-18-71-77.gtcust.grouptelecom.net [216.18.71.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F7937B40B for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:45:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@globalrelay.net) Received: from [10.2.0.6] (HELO hpvl4002) by globalrelay.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4b7) with SMTP id 630581; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:45:08 -0700 Message-ID: <022201c0f449$bb525920$0600020a@frontend> From: "Eric Parusel" To: "Dave Uhring" , "Jaye Mathisen" , References: <20010613104512.M51977@apocalypse.cdsnet.net> <01061315423100.00790@dave.uhring.com> Subject: Re: Can't newfs big filesystem (twe/4.3-stable) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:45:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wednesday 13 June 2001 12:45, Jaye Mathisen wrote: > > Trying to newfs the following fs is giving me fits: > > > > newsfeed-inn# disklabel -r twed0 > > # /dev/twed0c: > > bytes/sector: 512 > > sectors/track: 63 > > tracks/cylinder: 255 > > sectors/cylinder: 16065 > > cylinders: 65418 > > sectors/unit: 1050940800 > > 8 partitions: > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > > c: 1050940800 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. > > 0 - 65418*) d: 1050940800 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 > > # (Cyl. 0 - 65418*) > > > > Frankly, I need a whopping about 10 files on this FS, but: > > > > > > newsfeed-inn# newfs -i 67108864 /dev/twed0d > > [stuff deleted] > > 1048576032, 1048641568, 1048707104, 1048772640, 1048838176, 1048903712, > > 1048969248, 1049034784, 1049100320, 1049165856, 1049231392, 1049296928, > > 1049362464, 1049428000, 1049493536, 1049559072, 1049624608, 1049690144, > > 1049755680, 1049821216, 1049886752, 1049952288, 1050017824, 1050083360, > > 1050148896, 1050214432, 1050279968, 1050345504, 1050411040, 1050476576, > > 1050542112, 1050607648, 1050673184, 1050738720, 1050804256, 1050869792, > > 1050935328 > > fsinit: inode value out of range (2). > > > > Tried larger -i parameters, same thing. > > > > > > Can't newfs figure this out before it gets to this point that something > > isn't going to work? > > > > I'll try some different block/frag sizes, see if it helps. > > > > Just curious, where did you find a 501GB hard drive? Hardware RAID setup, I would think..... Eric Parusel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 13:49:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BC737B407 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:49:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5DKnKZ10363; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:49:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:49:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106132049.f5DKnKZ10363@earth.backplane.com> To: Dave Uhring Cc: Jaye Mathisen , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't newfs big filesystem (twe/4.3-stable) References: <20010613104512.M51977@apocalypse.cdsnet.net> <01061315423100.00790@dave.uhring.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> newsfeed-inn# newfs -i 67108864 /dev/twed0d :> [stuff deleted] :> 1048576032, 1048641568, 1048707104, 1048772640, 1048838176, 1048903712, :> 1048969248, 1049034784, 1049100320, 1049165856, 1049231392, 1049296928, :> 1049362464, 1049428000, 1049493536, 1049559072, 1049624608, 1049690144, :> 1049755680, 1049821216, 1049886752, 1049952288, 1050017824, 1050083360, :> 1050148896, 1050214432, 1050279968, 1050345504, 1050411040, 1050476576, :> 1050542112, 1050607648, 1050673184, 1050738720, 1050804256, 1050869792, :> 1050935328 :> fsinit: inode value out of range (2). :> :> Tried larger -i parameters, same thing. :> :> Can't newfs figure this out before it gets to this point that something :> isn't going to work? :> :> I'll try some different block/frag sizes, see if it helps. Specifying a byte-to-inode ratio that large is kind of silly. I usually use something like -i 262144 -b 16384 -f 2048 on my larger filesystems. A couple of million would also probably work, but beyond that you aren't really saving anything, not even fsck time. I'm not surprised that 67 million doesn't work. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 14:10:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cx587235-a.chnd1.az.home.com (cx587235-a.chnd1.az.home.com [24.1.255.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F80B37B408 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:10:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jjreynold@home.com) Received: from whale.home-net (whale [192.168.1.2]) by cx587235-a.chnd1.az.home.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5DLAap00807 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:10:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jjreynold@home.com) Received: (from jjreynold@localhost) by whale.home-net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5DLAZj34123; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:10:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jjreynold@home.com) From: John Reynolds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15143.54987.588642.970327@whale.home-net> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:10:35 -0700 To: Subject: Re: Making donations easier (was Re: Can't get WC to bill me right!) In-Reply-To: <20010612205910.M3751-100000@germanium.xtalwind.net> References: <15142.46271.434974.979654@hip186.ch.intel.com> <20010612205910.M3751-100000@germanium.xtalwind.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.88 under Emacs 20.7.1 Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Tuesday, June 12, jack wrote: ] > > www.freebsdmall.com/donate/ > thanks! Hadn't spotted that. I'm still wondering about a "report" of sorts about the fundage that goes in and where it is spent in support of FreeBSD development. Does this sort of report exist and if not, are there any plans to do so? -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= John Reynolds Chandler Capabilities Engineering, CDS, Intel Corporation jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com My opinions are mine, not Intel's. Running jjreynold@home.com FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE. FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://www.reynoldsnet.org/ Come join us!!! @ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 17:16:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sleipner.eiffel.dk (sub19-229.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.19.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42CF37B403 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:16:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flemming@froekjaer.org) Received: from froekjaer.org (sub19-225.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.19.225]) by sleipner.eiffel.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5E0HGQ37006 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:17:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flemming@froekjaer.org) Message-ID: <3B28024D.4071CCD@froekjaer.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:16:13 -0700 From: Flemming Froekjaer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: rdump will not let me log in Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had rdump working just fine yesterday. The box was FreeBSD 4.3rc. Then i Upgraded to STABLE, and now I can't use rdump If i try to rsh there is no errors. rsh -l flemming otherserver ls returns my files on the other box. If i do: > rdump -0auf otherserver:/dev/nsa0 / DUMP: rcmd: socket: Operation not permitted DUMP: login to odessa as flemming failed. I don't understand this. What't wrong? \Flemming To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 17:29:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED7337B401 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:29:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from zoraida.reyes.somos.net (zoraida.reyes.somos.net [192.168.10.6]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA57231; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:29:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:32:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: To: Jaye Mathisen Cc: Subject: Re: Can't newfs big filesystem (twe/4.3-stable) In-Reply-To: <20010613104512.M51977@apocalypse.cdsnet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Jaye Mathisen wrote: > Trying to newfs the following fs is giving me fits: > > newsfeed-inn# disklabel -r twed0 > # /dev/twed0c: > bytes/sector: 512 > sectors/track: 63 > tracks/cylinder: 255 > sectors/cylinder: 16065 > cylinders: 65418 > sectors/unit: 1050940800 > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > c: 1050940800 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 65418*) > d: 1050940800 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 65418*) > > Frankly, I need a whopping about 10 files on this FS, but: Did you try updating the bios of that 3ware card? In the past I had all kind of problems with 2 3ware cards and they all went away aftera flashing with a recent bios. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 18: 3:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov (gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.4.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B101A37B403; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsowders@usgs.gov) To: "Robin P. Blanchard" Cc: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gigabit woes MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Robert L Sowders" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:03:32 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on gscamnlm03/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 06/13/2001 06:03:33 PM, Serialize complete at 06/13/2001 06:03:33 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok now your into something I've seen before. Had the same problem here with 100mb cards. ifconfig showed them set at 100mb full duplex. I thought everything was fine. Nope. It was trying to auto negotiate with the other nic, which was also trying to auto negotiate. It ended up with one going to full duplex and the other going to something else. Hence the slow performance. The problem went away when we forced one of the cards to 100mb full duplex. Sorry don't remember how to do this. But it's been discussed in the list before, do a search for full duplex and force and you should find it. "Robin P. Blanchard" Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG 06/13/2001 10:36 AM To: stable@freebsd.org cc: Subject: Re: gigabit woes yet more findings: entirely removed the intel 100Mb nic as well as the 3com 1000Mb nic. installed a 3com 100Mb nic (device xl); edited my kernel appropriately, removed my old kernel build-tree, rebuilt the kernel and rebooted. same test, still at 2.67 MB/s. both ends are showing no errors whatsoever and are both reporting connection as 100MB full-duplex. this is becoming more and more bizarre. input is appreciated. > new findings on this problem... > > so i decided to try the card(s) (3com and intel) in another, older > dell poweredge 4300. before installing the card, i wanted to test > the performance on the already installed 100Mb intel card (fxp). > using the same test, i was getting around 10.3MB/s. that done, i > reconfigured the kernel to support the ti device, disabled > the fxp ifconfig entry in rc.conf, enabling ti instead, shut > the box down, installed the card and rebooted. i ran the same > test again (now using the gig interface) and wound up with a whopping > 2.67 MB/s. everything looks fine at the switch, and freebsd is not > complaining. so i decided to revert back to the 100Mb interface > (at least i'll get 10 MB/s) by disabling the ti ifconfig entry in > rc.conf and enabling fxp again. reboot. run my test again (again on fxp) > and i find i'm getting 2.67 MB/s now -- consistently. what? > so i remove the ti device from the kernel config and remove the > card from the system. still 2.67 MB/s on the fxp interface. > i am very curious to hear any hypotheses on this. > > and yes, i also only get 2.67 MB/s on the gig interface if it is alone > in the system. > > > ok. currently in our dell poweredge 4350 there is a 3com 3c985b with > > alteon-2 chipset plugged into a 64-bit pci slot. the kernel is built > > to use the ti driver (with kernel NMBCLUSTERS set to 16896). > > this is directly connected to a gig port on our extreme black diamond. > > a basic ip test of ftping to a known functional gig interface > > (an SGI origin 2000 also directly attached to our black diamond -- the > > same test on this interface with a similar interface on a separate > > module of this SGI box yields 12.183MB/s) yields a mere 2.37MB/s. > > both the gig port on the black diamond and the nic in the freebsd box > > are auto-negotiating. > > > > relevant /etc/sysctl.conf: > > net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1 > > net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536 > > net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 > > net.inet.udp.sendspace=65536 > > net.inet.udp.recvspace=65536 > > > > relevant /etc/rc.conf: > > icmp_drop_redirect="YES" > > inetd_enable="NO" > > kern_securelevel_enable="NO" > > moused_enable="NO" > > nfs_client_enable="YES" > > ntpdate_enable="YES" > > ntpdate_flags="10.10.10.11" > > sendmail_enable="NO" > > sshd_enable="NO" > > tcp_drop_synfin="YES" > > tcp_extensions="YES" > > tcp_keepalive="YES" > > usbd_enable="NO" > > > > we get similarly poor performance if we swap the 3com with an intel. > > > > more performance tuning suggestions are extremely welcomed. > > thanks in advance. > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Robin P. Blanchard > IT Program Specialist > Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. > fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 > email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu > ------------------------------------ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 21:37:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guardian.apnic.net (guardian.apnic.net [203.37.255.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FD237B403 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:37:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ggm@apnic.net) Received: (from mail@localhost) by guardian.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17752 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:37:15 +1000 (EST) Received: from hadrian.staff.apnic.net(192.168.1.1) by int-gw.staff.apnic.net via smap (V2.1) id xma017738; Thu, 14 Jun 01 14:36:56 +1000 Received: (from ggm@localhost) by hadrian.staff.apnic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20451 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:36:52 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200106140436.OAA20451@hadrian.staff.apnic.net> From: ggm@apnic.net To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:36 EST Subject: XFree86-4.1.0+mga+dri+FreeBSD-4.3-stable == hang Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Say I have a Matrox G400, on FreeBSD-4.3-stable, I have installed the FreeBSD 'port' of XFree86-4.1.0 and I try to enable dri, and it hangs. Do I try to foist blame on XFree86, or do I try to foist blame on FreeBSD? I realize this isn't a well formed bug report, I'm holding off on that, until I understand who wants to be put in the frame. My suspicion is that Its FreeBSD, because it relates to their kernel agp.ko module (which I am guessing is required to support DRI->agp->G400 interrelationships somehow. cheers -George To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 21:43:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FC037B405 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:43:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 15AOyN-0008Lu-00; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:43:11 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: , Subject: RE: XFree86-4.1.0+mga+dri+FreeBSD-4.3-stable == hang Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:42:48 +1200 Message-ID: <012401c0f48c$769f6410$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-reply-to: <200106140436.OAA20451@hadrian.staff.apnic.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: Do I try to foist blame on XFree86, or do I try to foist blame :: on FreeBSD? No... you submit a patch that fixes the problem(s). ;-) -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 21:52:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DE437B403 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:52:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5E4r2M69200; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:53:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:53:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Cc: Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0+mga+dri+FreeBSD-4.3-stable == hang In-Reply-To: <200106140436.OAA20451@hadrian.staff.apnic.net> Message-ID: <20010614005117.E68588-100000@turtle.looksharp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 ggm@apnic.net wrote: >I realize this isn't a well formed bug report, I'm holding off >on that, until I understand who wants to be put in the frame. Until you supply some information those reading cannot hazard much of a qualified guess as to whether the culprit is FreeBSD, XFree86, or the third possibility you didn't mention: you. -- Brandon D. Valentine This message is encrypted with ROT-26. Any attempt to circumvent this encryption is expressly prohibited under 17 USC 512. Violators may be prosecuted. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 21:58:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB9537B401 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:58:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5E4xgK10595 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:59:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:59:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? In-Reply-To: <20010611221448.N77570@leviathan.inethouston.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:55:27PM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: > > Suggestion: committers hold off on commits for 30 minutes before > > and after midnight UTC, so that those who track stable can grab the > > tree as of midnight each night knowing that they didn't do so in the > > middle of a large commit. > > I cvsup at 2am Central time with no probs, but if everyone did it at > 2am central, it might be too busy for me to cvsup. You wouldn't have to cvsup at any given time; you'd just have to tell cvsup to grab the tree as it was around 23.59.59 or 00.00.01. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 22:54: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailf.telia.com (mailf.telia.com [194.22.194.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887BA37B403 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:53:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailf.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5E5rmj16947 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:53:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA15043 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:53:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 23377 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Jun 2001 05:53:24 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:53:24 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: ggm@apnic.net Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0+mga+dri+FreeBSD-4.3-stable == hang Message-ID: <20010614075324.A23335@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: ggm@apnic.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200106140436.OAA20451@hadrian.staff.apnic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106140436.OAA20451@hadrian.staff.apnic.net>; from ggm@apnic.net on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 02:36:00PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 02:36:00PM -0500, ggm@apnic.net wrote: > > Say I have a Matrox G400, on FreeBSD-4.3-stable, I have > installed the FreeBSD 'port' of XFree86-4.1.0 and I try > to enable dri, and it hangs. > > Do I try to foist blame on XFree86, or do I try to foist blame > on FreeBSD? Yes. Quoting from a recent commit to the XFree86-4 port: note: DRI modules would not build. They are borken for FreeBSD. It is a known problem. (Without a known fix unfortunately.) > > I realize this isn't a well formed bug report, I'm holding off > on that, until I understand who wants to be put in the frame. > > My suspicion is that Its FreeBSD, because it relates to their > kernel agp.ko module (which I am guessing is required to support > DRI->agp->G400 interrelationships somehow. > -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 13 23:59:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.port.ru (mx2.port.ru [194.67.23.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799A837B408 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:59:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phisto@mail.ru) Received: from rgu20.gubkin-rgu.ac.ru ([193.233.5.20] helo=oberon) by smtp2.port.ru with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 15AR6Q-000ON8-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:59:38 +0400 Message-ID: <032f01c0f4a7$ea1c68a0$0302030a@cit.gubkin.ru> From: "Sergey Veltistov" To: Subject: help Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:59:17 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 1:34:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from raven.ravenbrook.com (raven.ravenbrook.com [193.82.131.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C7637B415 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:34:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nb@ravenbrook.com) Received: from thrush.ravenbrook.com (thrush.ravenbrook.com [193.112.141.249]) by raven.ravenbrook.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21024; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:34:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from thrush.ravenbrook.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thrush.ravenbrook.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5E8YRl07806; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:34:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nb@thrush.ravenbrook.com) From: Nick Barnes To: "Robert L Sowders" Cc: "Robin P. Blanchard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gigabit woes In-Reply-To: Message from "Robert L Sowders" of "Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:03:32 PDT." Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:34:27 +0100 Message-ID: <7804.992507667@thrush.ravenbrook.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 2001-06-14 01:03:32+0000, "Robert L Sowders" writes: > Ok now your into something I've seen before. > > Had the same problem here with 100mb cards. ifconfig showed them set at > 100mb full duplex. I thought everything was fine. Nope. It was trying > to auto negotiate with the other nic, which was also trying to auto > negotiate. It ended up with one going to full duplex and the other going > to something else. Hence the slow performance. The problem went away > when we forced one of the cards to 100mb full duplex. > > Sorry don't remember how to do this. But it's been discussed in the list > before, do a search for full duplex and force and you should find it. I also had something like this with a 100Mb card. The card seemed to get in a muddle, so hardly any bits were going through. Rebooting didn't fix it, and it wasn't a kernel problem. I fixed it in the end by forcing the media type with ifconfig (maybe "ifconfig media 100baseTX"?). Nick B > > > > > > "Robin P. Blanchard" > Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > 06/13/2001 10:36 AM > > > To: stable@freebsd.org > cc: > Subject: Re: gigabit woes > > yet more findings: > > entirely removed the intel 100Mb nic as well as the 3com 1000Mb nic. > installed a 3com 100Mb nic (device xl); edited my kernel appropriately, > removed my old kernel build-tree, rebuilt the kernel and rebooted. > same test, still at 2.67 MB/s. both ends are showing no errors whatsoever > and are both reporting connection as 100MB full-duplex. > > this is becoming more and more bizarre. > input is appreciated. > > > > new findings on this problem... > > > > so i decided to try the card(s) (3com and intel) in another, older > > dell poweredge 4300. before installing the card, i wanted to test > > the performance on the already installed 100Mb intel card (fxp). > > using the same test, i was getting around 10.3MB/s. that done, i > > reconfigured the kernel to support the ti device, disabled > > the fxp ifconfig entry in rc.conf, enabling ti instead, shut > > the box down, installed the card and rebooted. i ran the same > > test again (now using the gig interface) and wound up with a whopping > > 2.67 MB/s. everything looks fine at the switch, and freebsd is not > > complaining. so i decided to revert back to the 100Mb interface > > (at least i'll get 10 MB/s) by disabling the ti ifconfig entry in > > rc.conf and enabling fxp again. reboot. run my test again (again on fxp) > > and i find i'm getting 2.67 MB/s now -- consistently. what? > > so i remove the ti device from the kernel config and remove the > > card from the system. still 2.67 MB/s on the fxp interface. > > i am very curious to hear any hypotheses on this. > > > > and yes, i also only get 2.67 MB/s on the gig interface if it is alone > > in the system. > > > > > ok. currently in our dell poweredge 4350 there is a 3com 3c985b with > > > alteon-2 chipset plugged into a 64-bit pci slot. the kernel is built > > > to use the ti driver (with kernel NMBCLUSTERS set to 16896). > > > this is directly connected to a gig port on our extreme black diamond. > > > a basic ip test of ftping to a known functional gig interface > > > (an SGI origin 2000 also directly attached to our black diamond -- the > > > same test on this interface with a similar interface on a separate > > > module of this SGI box yields 12.183MB/s) yields a mere 2.37MB/s. > > > both the gig port on the black diamond and the nic in the freebsd box > > > are auto-negotiating. > > > > > > relevant /etc/sysctl.conf: > > > net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1 > > > net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536 > > > net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 > > > net.inet.udp.sendspace=65536 > > > net.inet.udp.recvspace=65536 > > > > > > relevant /etc/rc.conf: > > > icmp_drop_redirect="YES" > > > inetd_enable="NO" > > > kern_securelevel_enable="NO" > > > moused_enable="NO" > > > nfs_client_enable="YES" > > > ntpdate_enable="YES" > > > ntpdate_flags="10.10.10.11" > > > sendmail_enable="NO" > > > sshd_enable="NO" > > > tcp_drop_synfin="YES" > > > tcp_extensions="YES" > > > tcp_keepalive="YES" > > > usbd_enable="NO" > > > > > > we get similarly poor performance if we swap the 3com with an intel. > > > > > > more performance tuning suggestions are extremely welcomed. > > > thanks in advance. > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------ > > Robin P. Blanchard > > IT Program Specialist > > Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. > > fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 > > email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu > > ------------------------------------ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > ------------------------------------ > Robin P. Blanchard > IT Program Specialist > Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. > fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 > email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu > ------------------------------------ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 1:36:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from plab.ku.dk (plab.ku.dk [130.225.105.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6E237B403 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:36:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from postmaster@plab.ku.dk) Received: (from root@localhost) by plab.ku.dk (8.11.3/8.9.3) id f5E8aDG81978 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org.AVP; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:36:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from postmaster@plab.ku.dk) Received: from raven.plab.ku.dk (raven.plab.ku.dk [130.225.105.67]) by plab.ku.dk (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f5E8aCI81970; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:36:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from postmaster@plab.ku.dk) Subject: PPPoE - howto if PPPoE:xl0 crashes the system Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Dmitry Karasik Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Keywords: 2001334874 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Lines: 22 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 14 Jun 2001 10:35:33 +0200 X-Mailer: Mail::Mailer[v1.18] Net::SMTP[v2.13] Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I was experimenting with PPP over ethernet, and found to my surprise that it crashes the system ( 4.3-RELEASE). I did 'ppp' and then 'set device PPPoE:xl0' and 'dial'. I had no idea how to use PPPoE ( and still don't have now), so if someone can enlighten me and point to a bit of documentation, I would be happy. Anyway, to those who will be interested in this bug, the box has xl0(not configured) and xl1(10.) with kernel netgraph enabled. -- Sincerely, Dmitry --- www.karasik.eu.org --- Life ain't fair, but the root password helps. - BOFH To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 3:17:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5573F37B40A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:17:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00869 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:17:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA39649 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:17:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: (from root@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f5EAHGg23868 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:17:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.11.2/8.11.1av) id f5EAHEe23859 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:17:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:17:14 +0200 From: Gunnar Flygt To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Euro symbol in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010614121714.B20392@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt Mail-Followup-To: Gunnar Flygt , FreeBSD Stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have problems getting the "new" Euro-symbol in FreeBSd. I use ISO-8859-1 Has anyone a solution to this? I know it's not quite a stable question, but subscribing to questions for only one question seems ovedoing it. :) -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 3:21:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCEF037B401 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:21:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.1]) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 15AUFU-00006H-00; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:21:12 +1200 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:21:12 +1200 (NZST) From: Juha Saarinen To: Gunnar Flygt Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Euro symbol in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20010614121714.B20392@sr.se> Message-ID: X-S: Always MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Shouldn't it be ISO-8859-15 to get the Euro thingie? -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > I have problems getting the "new" Euro-symbol in FreeBSd. I use > ISO-8859-1 > > Has anyone a solution to this? I know it's not quite a stable question, > but subscribing to questions for only one question seems ovedoing it. :) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 3:27:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dilbert.fcg.co.uk (dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk [194.203.69.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0468337B407; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:27:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfrench@firstcallgroup.co.uk) Received: from pfrench by dilbert.fcg.co.uk with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15AULR-0008jP-00; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:27:21 +0100 To: msmith@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very odd clock problem Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200106130824.f5D8OSn08506@mass.dis.org> Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:27:21 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Why is it only this user? Are they your only user that cares? Or does > the time step only happen when they are sending mail? They appear to be the only user that cares - or rather the only one that mails 'root' with the problem.My fellow sysadmin says a cuple of other people have mailed him privately with the same problem. It does not only happen which this user is logged in. > I'm really at a loss here; as I said, it sounds like a very specific > kernel sniper bug of some sort. 8( I've set up Peter Jeremys suggestions for ntp statistics collecting and started it re-running so see what that gives. Interestingly the problem has not recurred during the time that we have had NTP disabled. Its hard to tell if the time always jumps back to the same value as wwe cannot see eactly what it gets set to. I would suspect that it *is* always jumping back to the same value as when we see it then it is always within a few days of the same value. I'll have more information when it goes worng again and I have the ntp statistics. The only other fact I can think of that may be relevent (in fact is highly likely to be relevent) is that tis only started occurring when we switched from running a generic kernel to a custom kernel. The system ran wiith a custom kerenel build on 4.2-STABLE until around May 1st when I upgraded the discs and also put 4.3-STABLE onto it (but with a generci kernel, though locally compiled). This was rebuilt into a custom kernel for the box a couple of weeks ago and since then the problem has started happening. I dont have any funny options in make.conf WITHOUT_X11= yes NO_SENDMAIL= true CFLAGS= -O -pipe COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe The kernel config removes all ATA and ATAPI devices, all SCSI controllers other than ahc, all ethers other than xl, and all USB devices. It is a -STABLE supped on June 11th. -pete. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 4: 9:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 63F4237B407 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 04:09:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Florian.Heigl@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 22136 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2001 11:09:35 -0000 Received: from b76e6.pppool.de (213.7.118.230) by mail.gmx.net (mp005-rz3) with SMTP; 14 Jun 2001 11:09:35 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:07:01 +0200 From: Florian Heigl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal Reply-To: Florian Heigl X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <191923935.20010614130701@gmx.de> To: Dmitry Karasik Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPoE - howto if PPPoE:xl0 crashes the system In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hallo Dmitry, Thursday, June 14, 2001, 10:35:33 AM, hast Du die Tastatur mit folgenden Worten maltrÄtiert: DK> Hi! DK> I was experimenting with PPP over ethernet, and DK> found to my surprise that it crashes the system ( 4.3-RELEASE). DK> I did 'ppp' and then 'set device PPPoE:xl0' and 'dial'. DK> I had no idea how to use PPPoE ( and still don't have now), DK> so if someone can enlighten me and point to a bit of documentation, DK> I would be happy. Please checkout the PPPoE chapter in the FreeBSD handbook /usr/share/doc/handbook/index.html , which will probably cover all questions. DK> Anyway, to those who will be interested in this bug, the box DK> has xl0(not configured) and xl1(10.) with kernel netgraph enabled. -- Und *winke*, Florian mailto:Florian.Heigl@gmx.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 4:42:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatesrv.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de (gatesrv.RZ.UniBW-Muenchen.de [137.193.11.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE15737B405 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 04:42:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lutz@medusa.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de) Received: from medusa.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de (medusa.Informatik.UniBw-Muenchen.de [137.193.60.34]) by gatesrv.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5BHPZq21283 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:25:35 +0200 (MEST) Received: (qmail 445 invoked by uid 216); 11 Jun 2001 17:26:29 -0000 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with pcn network driver From: Lutz Bichler Date: 11 Jun 2001 19:26:29 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i have a problem with the pcn network device driver. The startup message changed from: /kernel ukphy0: on miibus0 to: /kernel lxtphy0: on miibus0. This would not disturb me that much :-), but the network device does not allow any connection afterwards. So i removed the lxtphy* files from the src directory and the makefiles and built the kernel again. Now it works again, but i would like to know what happened .. Cheers Lutz -- Lutz Bichler Institute for Software Technology, Department of Computer Science University of the Federal Armed Forces Munich, D-85577 Neubiberg, Germany TEL/FAX: +49(0)89 6004-2261/-3560, NET: lutz@informatik.unibw-muenchen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 5:31:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatesrv.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de (gatesrv.RZ.UniBW-Muenchen.de [137.193.11.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AEB37B403 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 05:31:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lutz@medusa.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de) Received: from medusa.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de (medusa.Informatik.UniBw-Muenchen.de [137.193.60.34]) by gatesrv.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5D9Z2M25980 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:35:03 +0200 (MEST) Received: (qmail 41818 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2001 09:35:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO medusa.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Jun 2001 09:35:50 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Lutz Bichler Organization: University of the Fed. Armed Forces Munich To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: pcn network driver problem Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:35:50 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061311355004.31209@medusa.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i had a problem with the pcn network device driver on FBSD, cvsup'ed on Monday. The kernel message at the boot prompt changed from /kernel: ukphy0: on miibus0 /kernel: ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto to /kernel: lxtphy0: on miibus0 /kernel: lxtphy0: 100baseFX, 100baseFX-FDX, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto After that no connection was possible anymore. Then i removed the lxt* files from the sources, rebuild the kernel and it works again. But what is going wrong with the lxt* files? Lutz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 5:31:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatesrv.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de (gatesrv.RZ.UniBW-Muenchen.de [137.193.11.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDB337B407 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 05:31:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lutz@medusa.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de) Received: from medusa.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de (medusa.Informatik.UniBw-Muenchen.de [137.193.60.34]) by gatesrv.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5C80kd00509 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:00:46 +0200 (MEST) Received: (qmail 27973 invoked by uid 216); 12 Jun 2001 08:01:35 -0000 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with the pcn network device driver From: Lutz Bichler Date: 12 Jun 2001 10:01:35 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i have a problem with the pcn network device driver (cvsup from yesterday). The startup message changed from: /kernel ukphy0: on miibus0 to: /kernel lxtphy0: on miibus0. This would not disturb me that much :-), but the network device does not allow any connection afterwards. So i removed the lxtphy* files from the src directory and the makefiles and built the kernel again. Now it works again, but i would like to know what happened .. Cheers Lutz -- Lutz Bichler Institute for Software Technology, Department of Computer Science University of the Federal Armed Forces Munich, D-85577 Neubiberg, Germany TEL/FAX: +49(0)89 6004-2261/-3560, NET: lutz@informatik.unibw-muenchen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 5:31:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatesrv.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de (gatesrv.RZ.UniBW-Muenchen.de [137.193.11.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD3437B401 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 05:31:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lutz@medusa.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de) Received: from medusa.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de (medusa.Informatik.UniBw-Muenchen.de [137.193.60.34]) by gatesrv.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5C8IZd00984 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:18:35 +0200 (MEST) Received: (qmail 79002 invoked by uid 216); 12 Jun 2001 08:19:25 -0000 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: pcn network device driver problem From: Lutz Bichler Date: 12 Jun 2001 10:19:24 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i have a problem with the pcn network device driver (cvsup from yesterday). The startup message changed from: /kernel ukphy0: on miibus0 to: /kernel lxtphy0: on miibus0. This would not disturb me that much :-), but the network device does not allow any connection afterwards. So i removed the lxtphy* files from the src directory and the makefiles and built the kernel again. Now it works again, but i would like to know what happened .. Cheers Lutz -- Lutz Bichler Institute for Software Technology, Department of Computer Science University of the Federal Armed Forces Munich, D-85577 Neubiberg, Germany TEL/FAX: +49(0)89 6004-2261/-3560, NET: lutz@informatik.unibw-muenchen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 6:32:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blues.jpj.net (blues.jpj.net [204.97.17.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6532D37B406 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 06:32:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benh@jpj.net) Received: from [192.168.10.2] (xlate-6-168.webster.edu [198.246.6.168]) by blues.jpj.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5EDVpY01649; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:31:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: benh@blues.jpj.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010614075324.A23335@student.uu.se> References: <200106140436.OAA20451@hadrian.staff.apnic.net>; from ggm@apnic.net on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 02:36:00PM -0500 <200106140436.OAA20451@hadrian.staff.apnic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:36:23 -0500 To: Erik Trulsson From: Ben Hockenhull Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0+mga+dri+FreeBSD-4.3-stable == hang Cc: ggm@apnic.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 7:53 AM +0200 6/14/01, Erik Trulsson wrote: >On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 02:36:00PM -0500, ggm@apnic.net wrote: >> >> Say I have a Matrox G400, on FreeBSD-4.3-stable, I have >> installed the FreeBSD 'port' of XFree86-4.1.0 and I try >> to enable dri, and it hangs. >> >> Do I try to foist blame on XFree86, or do I try to foist blame >> on FreeBSD? > >Yes. >Quoting from a recent commit to the XFree86-4 port: > > note: DRI modules would not build. They are borken for FreeBSD. > >It is a known problem. (Without a known fix unfortunately.) Hrm. I wonder if this accounts for my troubles getting X to work on a Vaio R505TS, with the Intel 815 chipset. An XFree86 -configure gives me a black screen that does not respond to a kill. I have to reboot to get console back, though the system itself remains running. No matter how I go at this, I can't get better than 300x200 or so. Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 6:42:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E4837B401; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 06:41:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (Sturm@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5EDfsU20860; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:41:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:41:54 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Cc: Subject: XFree86-4.1.0_4 still broken? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. Well, I posted and I read a lot of threads targeting the XFree86-4 port problem and I tried a lot of suggested solutions, but without success. Well, my problem is really curious and I reported this so many times, but all the times it was said that this problem could not be reproduced ... First: - we are using FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE as it got the last cvsupdate today from a German mirror - I moved /usr/X11R6 to /usr/X11R6.old and did a pkg_delete for all reported XFree86-ports I found by doing pkg_info. I tried to build XFree86-4 either with fonts and without fonts. On all of our Intel based SMP machines (the wohle system is compiled with /etc/make.conf-option CPUTYPE set ti i686) I can build XFree86-4 without!, really without any problems! Sometimes I get on these machines the same messages as on the failing machines. On all of our AMD TBird based systems (the whole OS has been build with CPUTYPE=k7) the built of XFree86-4 port fails! Everytime the same: it connot find imake. Trying to install imake fails due another error. When uninstalled all XFfree86 stuff, why is it impossible to install the port? -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 6:43:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27B037B406; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 06:43:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (Sturm@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5EDhcU20873; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:43:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:43:38 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Cc: Subject: XFree86-4.1.0_4 still broken? (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is the error I receive : Building on FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 [ELF] (4.3.0). GCC version: 2.95 make -f xmakefile version.def rm -f ./config/cf/version.def ln -s ../.././programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/xf86Version.h ./config/cf/version.def make -f xmakefile Makefiles making Makefiles in include... making Makefiles in include/bitmaps... making Makefiles in include/extensions... making Makefiles in include/fonts... making Makefiles in include/GL... making Makefiles in include/DPS... making Makefiles in config... making Makefiles in config/cf... making Makefiles in config/imake... making Makefiles in config/makedepend... ../../config/imake/imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/public/gnu/compile/system/pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/config. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in config/util... ../../config/imake/imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/public/gnu/compile/system/pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/config. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in config/pswrap... ../../config/imake/imake: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/public/gnu/compile/system/pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/config. make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in lib... -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:41:54 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: XFree86-4.1.0_4 still broken? Hello. Well, I posted and I read a lot of threads targeting the XFree86-4 port problem and I tried a lot of suggested solutions, but without success. Well, my problem is really curious and I reported this so many times, but all the times it was said that this problem could not be reproduced ... First: - we are using FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE as it got the last cvsupdate today from a German mirror - I moved /usr/X11R6 to /usr/X11R6.old and did a pkg_delete for all reported XFree86-ports I found by doing pkg_info. I tried to build XFree86-4 either with fonts and without fonts. On all of our Intel based SMP machines (the wohle system is compiled with /etc/make.conf-option CPUTYPE set ti i686) I can build XFree86-4 without!, really without any problems! Sometimes I get on these machines the same messages as on the failing machines. On all of our AMD TBird based systems (the whole OS has been build with CPUTYPE=k7) the built of XFree86-4 port fails! Everytime the same: it connot find imake. Trying to install imake fails due another error. When uninstalled all XFfree86 stuff, why is it impossible to install the port? -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 7:18:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A67337B40F for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:18:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 15AXxA-0002XH-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:18:32 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5EEIWF39873 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:18:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:18:31 +0100 From: Rasputin To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0+mga+dri+FreeBSD-4.3-stable == hang Message-ID: <20010614151831.A39759@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <200106140436.OAA20451@hadrian.staff.apnic.net>; <200106140436.OAA20451@hadrian.staff.apnic.net> <20010614075324.A23335@student.uu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from benh@jpj.net on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 08:36:23AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Ben Hockenhull [010614 14:33]: > At 7:53 AM +0200 6/14/01, Erik Trulsson wrote: > >On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 02:36:00PM -0500, ggm@apnic.net wrote: > >> > >> Say I have a Matrox G400, on FreeBSD-4.3-stable, I have > >> installed the FreeBSD 'port' of XFree86-4.1.0 and I try > >> to enable dri, and it hangs. > >> > >> Do I try to foist blame on XFree86, or do I try to foist blame > >> on FreeBSD? > > > >Yes. > >Quoting from a recent commit to the XFree86-4 port: > > > > note: DRI modules would not build. They are borken for FreeBSD. > > > >It is a known problem. (Without a known fix unfortunately.) Can't you just roll the port back to last week and use 4.0.3? Apparently DRI works OK with that (for certain cards, see: http://www.teleport.com/~anholt/devel/dri/ ) -- A diplomat is someone who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you will look forward to the trip. Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns :: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 7:42:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF9637B401 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:42:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.12.0.Beta10/8.12.0.Beta10/20010318/$Revision: 1.22 $) with ESMTP id f5EEg1Zw005380 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:42:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ler@lerami.lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.12.0.Beta10/8.12.0.Beta10) id f5EEg17j005379 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:42:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ler) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:42:01 -0500 From: Larry Rosenman To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: STAROFFICE Broke? Message-ID: <20010614094201.A5070@lerami.lerctr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Apparently something changed in the last 2-3 weeks on 4.3-STABLE such that StarOffice 5.2 no longer comes up. It seems to get stuck in a linux_newselect/sched_yield loop, and doesn't finish coming up. It worked fine up until I cvsup'd yesterday. (from ~3 weeks ago). Anyone else seeing this? -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 7:51:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ler-freebie.iadfw.net (ler-freebie.iadfw.net [206.66.13.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DE737B405 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:51:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@ler-freebie.iadfw.net) Received: (from ler@localhost) by ler-freebie.iadfw.net (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5EEpMC07851; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:51:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ler) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:51:21 -0500 From: Larry Rosenman To: Kal Torak Cc: Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: STAROFFICE Broke? Message-ID: <20010614095121.A7785@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> Reply-To: ler@airmail.net References: <20010614094201.A5070@lerami.lerctr.org> <3B28CF25.BADC984D@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <3B28CF25.BADC984D@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 12:50:13AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 12:50:13AM +1000, Kal Torak wrote: > > Larry Rosenman wrote: > > > > Apparently something changed in the last 2-3 weeks on 4.3-STABLE such > > that StarOffice 5.2 no longer comes up. It seems to get stuck in a > > linux_newselect/sched_yield loop, and doesn't finish coming up. > > > > It worked fine up until I cvsup'd yesterday. (from ~3 weeks ago). > > > > Anyone else seeing this? > > > Strange it was working fine after I cvsup'd about ~1 week ago... Ok, so somewhere between ~1 week ago and yesterday.... Hmm. I just checked, and my last BuildWorld was 4Jun2001... Any other datapoints? LER To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 7:57: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72EFF37B406 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:56:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 92858 invoked by uid 100); 14 Jun 2001 14:56:52 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15144.53428.793574.696095@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:56:52 -0500 To: ler@airmail.net Cc: Kal Torak , Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: STAROFFICE Broke? In-Reply-To: <20010614095121.A7785@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> References: <20010614094201.A5070@lerami.lerctr.org> <3B28CF25.BADC984D@quake.com.au> <20010614095121.A7785@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Larry Rosenman types: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 12:50:13AM +1000, Kal Torak wrote: > > Strange it was working fine after I cvsup'd about ~1 week ago... > Ok, so somewhere between ~1 week ago and yesterday.... Hmm. > I just checked, and my last BuildWorld was 4Jun2001... Seems to start for me on a 10Jun2001 build. I don't normally use it, so I can't say much beyond "it starts". http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 8:16:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ler-freebie.iadfw.net (ler-freebie.iadfw.net [206.66.13.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D1337B41A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:16:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@ler-freebie.iadfw.net) Received: (from ler@localhost) by ler-freebie.iadfw.net (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5EFGB108066; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:16:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ler) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:16:11 -0500 From: Larry Rosenman To: Mike Meyer Cc: ler@airmail.net, Kal Torak , Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: STAROFFICE Broke? Message-ID: <20010614101611.A8061@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> Reply-To: ler@airmail.net References: <20010614094201.A5070@lerami.lerctr.org> <3B28CF25.BADC984D@quake.com.au> <20010614095121.A7785@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> <15144.53428.793574.696095@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <15144.53428.793574.696095@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 09:56:52AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 09:56:52AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Larry Rosenman types: > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 12:50:13AM +1000, Kal Torak wrote: > > > Strange it was working fine after I cvsup'd about ~1 week ago... > > Ok, so somewhere between ~1 week ago and yesterday.... Hmm. > > I just checked, and my last BuildWorld was 4Jun2001... > > Seems to start for me on a 10Jun2001 build. I don't normally use it, > so I can't say much beyond "it starts". Does it actually display it's screen? I just get the splash screen... Thanks for more data... LER > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 8:17:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1FA637B406 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:17:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 93489 invoked by uid 100); 14 Jun 2001 15:17:47 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15144.54683.266309.376223@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:17:47 -0500 To: ler@airmail.net Cc: Mike Meyer , Kal Torak , Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: STAROFFICE Broke? In-Reply-To: <20010614101611.A8061@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> References: <20010614094201.A5070@lerami.lerctr.org> <3B28CF25.BADC984D@quake.com.au> <20010614095121.A7785@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> <15144.53428.793574.696095@guru.mired.org> <20010614101611.A8061@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Larry Rosenman types: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 09:56:52AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Larry Rosenman types: > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 12:50:13AM +1000, Kal Torak wrote: > > > > Strange it was working fine after I cvsup'd about ~1 week ago... > > > Ok, so somewhere between ~1 week ago and yesterday.... Hmm. > > > I just checked, and my last BuildWorld was 4Jun2001... > > > > Seems to start for me on a 10Jun2001 build. I don't normally use it, > > so I can't say much beyond "it starts". > Does it actually display it's screen? I just get the splash screen... Yup, it opens it's big window, and displays the icons in it. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 8:28:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f82.hotmail.com [216.32.181.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E2D37B403; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:28:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmays2000@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:28:46 -0700 Received: from 139.76.65.132 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:28:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.76.65.132] From: "Kenneth Mays" To: ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0_4 still broken? Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:28:45 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jun 2001 15:28:46.0236 (UTC) FILETIME=[B3C98DC0:01C0F4E6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I appreciate the fact of someone attempting to get the latest XFree86 working on FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE. I am hoping to see three things resolved before v4.3.1-R: Successful install notes on using these applications on v4.3-R 1. XFree86 v4.1.x 2. Gnome 1.4.x 3. KDE 2.1.x 4. Netscape v4.77, 6.1 I think if we can start building a list of procedures of successful installs on FreeBSD 4.3R then it could help isolate current issues we are having. I suggested 4.3R since many people have a different version of STABLE most of the time. Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 9:11:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.de (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A00037B403 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:11:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Martin.Kaeske@ii.stud.tu-ilmenau.de) Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 15AZip-0003Sa-06; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:11:51 +0200 Received: from bsdfish.hh59.org (520055907672-0001@[62.226.39.228]) by fmrl02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 15AZif-29NGk4C; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:11:41 +0200 Received: from walnut.hh59.org (walnut.hh59.org [192.168.2.10]) by bsdfish.hh59.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5EGUKs09308 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:30:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Martin.Kaeske@ii.stud.tu-ilmenau.de) Received: (qmail 2502 invoked by uid 1000); 14 Jun 2001 16:05:23 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:05:23 +0200 From: Martin Kaeske To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: /var out of inodes Message-ID: <20010614180523.A2463@walnut.hh59.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Sender: 520055907672-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Axel Gruner posted the following question to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc. Since i've experienced the same behaviour on an old WDC AC2250 with FreeBSD-4.3-STABLE(09.06.2001) i think it's worth posting to freebsd-stable. Maybe some of you can solve the problem since it happens on an "untouched" system. > Hi. > /kernel: pid 1377 (pkg_add), uid 0 on /var: out of inodes" > > It is similar to a message during boot process, there is also a message > about /var, that the filesystem should be full. > > Well, i did a "df" and i see that only 1% is used on var. > When i do a "df -i /var" is see --> > > iused ifree %iused > 234 99604 0% > > So, could somone tell me what to do ? > I cant install a program... > > Thanks for help. > > I hope there will be somebody who can help me. > > I installed FreeBSD 4.3. I have a /var partition with 300 MB, so this > should be enough, but, when i want to install a package via sysinstall i > get an error message, and a message like --> " > Axel Martin -- The instructions said to use Windows 98 or better, so I installed FreeBSD. -- Jim Levie in comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 9:58:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from malkavian.org (malkavian.org [206.136.132.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC8037B406 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:58:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aard@malkavian.org) Received: (from aard@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5EGwRi53028 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:58:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from aard) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:58:27 -0400 From: a clever sheep To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0_4 still broken? Message-ID: <20010614125827.A52973@malkavian.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from kmays2000@hotmail.com on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 11:28:45AM -0400 X-URL: http://aard.org/ X-Ending-World: everything stays the same Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 11:28:45AM -0400, Kenneth Mays wrote: > > Successful install notes on using these applications on v4.3-R > 1. XFree86 v4.1.x > 2. Gnome 1.4.x > 3. KDE 2.1.x > 4. Netscape v4.77, 6.1 am i just missing something here? cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/ ; make install cd ../gnome ; make install cd ../kde ; make install cd ../../www/bsdi-netscape47-navigator ; make install cd ../linux-netscape6 ; make install -- dreams and belief have gone; time, life itself goes on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 10: 2: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ringworld.nanolink.com (ringworld.nanolink.com [195.24.48.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B2A037B403 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:01:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@orbitel.bg) Received: (qmail 1112 invoked by uid 1000); 14 Jun 2001 17:00:36 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:00:36 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: "Hartmann, O." Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0_4 still broken? Message-ID: <20010614200036.C729@ringworld.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: "Hartmann, O." , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 03:41:54PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 03:41:54PM +0200, Hartmann, O. wrote: > Hello. > > Well, I posted and I read a lot of threads targeting the XFree86-4 port problem > and I tried a lot of suggested solutions, but without success. Well, my problem > is really curious and I reported this so many times, but all the times it was said > that this problem could not be reproduced ... > > First: > > - we are using FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE as it got the last cvsupdate today from a German mirror > - I moved /usr/X11R6 to /usr/X11R6.old and did a pkg_delete for all reported XFree86-ports > I found by doing pkg_info. > > I tried to build XFree86-4 either with fonts and without fonts. > > On all of our Intel based SMP machines (the wohle system is compiled > with /etc/make.conf-option CPUTYPE set ti i686) I can build XFree86-4 > without!, really without any problems! Sometimes I get on these machines the same > messages as on the failing machines. > On all of our AMD TBird based systems (the whole OS has been build with CPUTYPE=k7) > the built of XFree86-4 port fails! Everytime the same: it connot find imake. > Trying to install imake fails due another error. > > When uninstalled all XFfree86 stuff, why is it impossible to install the port? If the error is the one you posted in your later message - 'imake' not found - then that's exactly the problem: if you have deinstalled all your X11R6 stuff, you've also deinstalled the imake executable. Install the devel/imake port, and try again. G'luck, Peter -- I am the meaning of this sentence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 10: 4:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D3E37B401; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (Sturm@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5EH4OG03510; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:04:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:04:24 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Peter Pentchev Cc: , Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0_4 still broken? In-Reply-To: <20010614200036.C729@ringworld.oblivion.bg> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Peter Pentchev wrote: Hello. Well, I realized that, tried to install imake-4 from ports (also imake) and - failed! Now I switched CPUTYPE back to nothing, compiled and get the right port, but it stoped always due already existing directories like twm, rstart, xsm etc. I deleted them manually and call make install again. It is strange! On the Intel based machine I didn't do anything like that and it worked. :>On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 03:41:54PM +0200, Hartmann, O. wrote: :>> Hello. :>> :>> Well, I posted and I read a lot of threads targeting the XFree86-4 port problem :>> and I tried a lot of suggested solutions, but without success. Well, my problem :>> is really curious and I reported this so many times, but all the times it was said :>> that this problem could not be reproduced ... :>> :>> First: :>> :>> - we are using FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE as it got the last cvsupdate today from a German mirror :>> - I moved /usr/X11R6 to /usr/X11R6.old and did a pkg_delete for all reported XFree86-ports :>> I found by doing pkg_info. :>> :>> I tried to build XFree86-4 either with fonts and without fonts. :>> :>> On all of our Intel based SMP machines (the wohle system is compiled :>> with /etc/make.conf-option CPUTYPE set ti i686) I can build XFree86-4 :>> without!, really without any problems! Sometimes I get on these machines the same :>> messages as on the failing machines. :>> On all of our AMD TBird based systems (the whole OS has been build with CPUTYPE=k7) :>> the built of XFree86-4 port fails! Everytime the same: it connot find imake. :>> Trying to install imake fails due another error. :>> :>> When uninstalled all XFfree86 stuff, why is it impossible to install the port? :> :>If the error is the one you posted in your later message - :>'imake' not found - then that's exactly the problem: if you have :>deinstalled all your X11R6 stuff, you've also deinstalled the imake :>executable. Install the devel/imake port, and try again. :> :>G'luck, :>Peter :> :>-- :>I am the meaning of this sentence. :> -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 10:40:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f51.hotmail.com [216.32.181.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD12F37B401 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:40:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmays2000@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:40:34 -0700 Received: from 139.76.65.132 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:40:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.76.65.132] From: "Kenneth Mays" To: aard@aard.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0_4 still broken? Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:40:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jun 2001 17:40:34.0684 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D96F3C0:01C0F4F9] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What I am asking for probably already exists but it was more to state that when you get a certain application to successfully install on a release or STABLE platform if it could be documented somewhere. Most of the time we install applications or hardware but don't always list how we fixed an issue when we got something to work that didn't work normally or install software that hit a quirk or two. Let's just say I own a Dell Inspiron 7000 and I was clean installing FreeBSD 4.3R on it. if I install the software successfully I can document that somewhere or describe the issues I have and whether I could resolve them or not. I could also do that for major software applications. That way anyone with a problem installing applications or the OS can use the knowledgebase to find issues with using FreeBsd 4.3R on a Inspiron 7000. Like I said, it probably exists somewhere officially or on someone's website. Mostof the time I find outdated information on benchmarks and installation tips so I was just bringing it up. Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 10:48:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nextlevelinternet.com (mail.nextlevelinternet.com [63.210.161.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F20537B40A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:47:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from haydenk@nextlevelinternet.com) Received: from laptop ([64.154.93.18]) by mail.nextlevelinternet.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f5EHlie32459 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:47:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from haydenk@nextlevelinternet.com) From: "Hayden Katzenellenbogen" To: Subject: Perl dies in make buildworld Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:47:45 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have no idea why this is happening.... trying to go from 4.3-Release to 4.3-stable. My make file contains the following FLAGS= -O -pipe COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe NOPROFILE= true USA_RESIDENT= YES Hayden Cleaning current config before rebuilding Makefile... *** Error code 1 (ignored) make -f Makefile.old clean > /dev/null 2>&1 || /bin/sh -c true /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../miniperl/miniperl "-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib" "-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib" Makefile.PL "INSTALLDIRS=perl" "PERL_SRC=/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl" "INSTALLMAN3DIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/perl/man3" "PERL=/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../miniperl/miniperl" "FULLPERL=perl" "DEFINE=-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include" "DEFINE=-DPERL_CORE" "LINKTYPE=static" "LIBS=-lperl -lm" Writing Makefile for DynaLoader ==> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <== ==> Please rerun the make command. <== false *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/ext/DynaLoader. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Hayden Katzenellenbogen haydenk@nextlevelinternet.com NextLevel Internet 858-622-8512 http://www.nextlevelinternet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 11: 4:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web14701.mail.yahoo.com (web14701.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DC8637B401 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hackr_d@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010614180426.99752.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.67.120.228] by web14701.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:04:26 PDT Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:04:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Donn Miller Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0+mga+dri+FreeBSD-4.3-stable == hang To: ggm@apnic.net, stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010614151831.A39759@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Rasputin wrote: > * Ben Hockenhull [010614 14:33]: > > At 7:53 AM +0200 6/14/01, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > >On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 02:36:00PM -0500, ggm@apnic.net wrote: > > >> > > >> Say I have a Matrox G400, on FreeBSD-4.3-stable, I have > > >> installed the FreeBSD 'port' of XFree86-4.1.0 and I try > > >> to enable dri, and it hangs. > > >> > > >> Do I try to foist blame on XFree86, or do I try to foist blame > > >> on FreeBSD? > > > > > >Yes. > > >Quoting from a recent commit to the XFree86-4 port: > > > > > > note: DRI modules would not build. They are borken for > FreeBSD. > > > > > >It is a known problem. (Without a known fix unfortunately.) > > Can't you just roll the port back to last week and use 4.0.3? > > Apparently DRI works OK with that Or, one could just download the sources from one of the XFree86 mirrors. After all, XFree86 is pretty easy to de-install without the aid of the ports systems. (Just rm -rf /usr/X11R6). Besides, most XFree86-specific questions should be directed to xpert@xfree86.org. Also, I'd advise people having trouble with the newest XFree to check the xpert archives. XFree86 mailing list info: http://www.xfree86.org/mailman/listinfo XPert archives: http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/ Of course, it's your judgement on whether or not to build/install XFree86 via the ports or not. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 11:12:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web14704.mail.yahoo.com (web14704.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFF2C37B407 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:12:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hackr_d@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010614181246.65285.qmail@web14704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.67.120.228] by web14704.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:12:46 PDT Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:12:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Donn Miller Subject: Re: Perl dies in make buildworld To: Hayden Katzenellenbogen , stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Hayden Katzenellenbogen wrote: aning current config before rebuilding Makefile... > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > make -f Makefile.old clean > /dev/null 2>&1 || /bin/sh -c true > /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../miniperl/miniperl > "-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib" > "-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib" Makefile.PL > "INSTALLDIRS=perl" "PERL_SRC=/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl" > "INSTALLMAN3DIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/perl/man3" > "PERL=/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../miniperl/miniperl" > "FULLPERL=perl" "DEFINE=-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include" > "DEFINE=-DPERL_CORE" "LINKTYPE=static" "LIBS=-lperl -lm" > Writing Makefile for DynaLoader > ==> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <== > ==> Please rerun the make command. <== > false > *** Error code 1 Hmmm.... maybe your clock isn't set correctly? Could be a problem with clock skew... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 11:25:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx9.port.ru (mx9.port.ru [194.67.23.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B1F537B401 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:25:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from skif_dk@mail.ru) Received: from [213.59.88.91] (helo=admin.vitcom.ru) by mx9.port.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #1) id 15Abnf-0006b3-00 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:24:59 +0400 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:19:42 +0400 From: Konstantin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Reply-To: Konstantin X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4946000016.20010614221942@mail.ru> Disposition-Notification-To: skif_dk@mail.ru To: stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 11:40:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304BC37B403 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:40:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from btong@mindspring.com) Received: from MARGRET (user-v3qs49j.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.17.51]) by hall.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA31935 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000801c0f501$f6fca9e0$ca02a8c0@ns2.mindspring.com> From: "Brian Tong" To: Subject: mailing list Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:43:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0F4D8.0D290800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0F4D8.0D290800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please add me to the FreeBSD stable mailing list. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0F4D8.0D290800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0F4D8.0D290800-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 11:47:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7D837B401 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:47:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu) Received: from phantom (staff.eagle.ca [209.167.16.15]) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f5EIjLT14639; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:45:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu) Message-ID: <013f01c0f502$74eb47d0$0f01a8c0@phantom> From: "Gerald T. Freymann" To: "Brian Tong" , References: <000801c0f501$f6fca9e0$ca02a8c0@ns2.mindspring.com> Subject: Re: mailing list Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:47:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Please add me to the FreeBSD stable mailing list. Um, try going here first: http://www.freebsd.org/ Under the "SUPPORT" category is a link called "Mailing Lists" that will take you here: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#mailing-list Now, if you click on the first two words in the paragraph "Mailing lists" you go here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html After you read the introduction, this section C.1.2. How to Subscribe appears. To subscribe to a list, send mail to and include subscribe [] in the body of your message Sounds pretty easy to me. You just have to click a few buttons and read a few paragraphs. -gf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 12:24:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D465637B406 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:24:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 6067 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2001 19:24:21 -0000 Received: from pd9508834.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (217.80.136.52) by mail.gmx.net (mail08) with SMTP; 14 Jun 2001 19:24:21 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06832 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:53:33 +0200 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:53:33 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPoE - howto if PPPoE:xl0 crashes the system Message-ID: <20010614205333.J17514@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from dmitry@karasik.eu.org on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 10:35:33AM +0200 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 10:35 +0200, Dmitry Karasik wrote: > > I was experimenting with PPP over ethernet, and found to my > surprise that it crashes the system ( 4.3-RELEASE). I did > 'ppp' and then 'set device PPPoE:xl0' and 'dial'. ^^^^^ > I had no idea how to use PPPoE ( and still don't have now), so > if someone can enlighten me and point to a bit of > documentation, I would be happy. You mean like RTFM? That's simple: "man 8 ppp". But it seems you already did this because you use the correct "device" entry above. Plus there's been a PPPoE chapter in the handbook for some year now. > Anyway, to those who will be interested in this bug, the box > has xl0(not configured) and xl1(10.) with kernel netgraph enabled. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Here's the problem (and it has been discussed in cvs-all as well as in -current or -stable: "ifconfig up" the interface before using it. Or update your system, there's a newer version (of ppp? I'm not positive on that) which ups the interface itself. But it definitely is a pilot's error to use an unconfigured interface for transmission ... virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 12:25:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from node7.cluster.srrc.usda.gov (symbion.srrc.usda.gov [199.133.86.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA9737B401 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:25:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjohnson@srrc.ars.usda.gov) Received: (from glenn@localhost) by node7.cluster.srrc.usda.gov (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5EJJ0C67715; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:19:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from glenn) From: Glenn Johnson Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:18:59 -0500 To: ggm@apnic.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0+mga+dri+FreeBSD-4.3-stable == hang Message-ID: <20010614141859.B67187@node7.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> References: <200106140436.OAA20451@hadrian.staff.apnic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106140436.OAA20451@hadrian.staff.apnic.net>; from ggm@apnic.net on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 02:36:00PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 02:36:00PM -0500, ggm@apnic.net wrote: > Say I have a Matrox G400, on FreeBSD-4.3-stable, I have installed the > FreeBSD 'port' of XFree86-4.1.0 and I try to enable dri, and it hangs. The DRI stuff does not work with XF86-4.1 and FreeBSD. > Do I try to foist blame on XFree86, or do I try to foist blame on > FreeBSD? > > I realize this isn't a well formed bug report, I'm holding off on > that, until I understand who wants to be put in the frame. > > My suspicion is that Its FreeBSD, because it relates to their > kernel agp.ko module (which I am guessing is required to support > DRI->agp->G400 interrelationships somehow. The agp.ko module is built with the FreeBSD sources and as far as I know works fine for most motherboard chip sets. It is required for DRI but not sufficient. The other required kernel modules for DRI with a Matrox G400 are the mga.ko and the drm.ko modules. These are [optionally] built as part of XFree86. The problem is that nobody is keeping the BSD branch of the DRI source tree up to date. I think you might be able to get a better answer from one of the XFree86 lists. -- Glenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 12:37:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pflnoczr.networktelephone.net (mail2.pensacola.networktelephone.net [208.245.30.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DAA037B406 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:37:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Steve.Dobbs@networktelephone.net) Received: by mail2.pensacola.networktelephone.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:33:46 -0500 Message-ID: From: Steve Dobbs To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: XFree86-4.1.0 & intel 810 graphics Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:33:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a box that has the intel 810 graphics set built on the motherboard, and have attempted to install XFree86 4.1.0 on it, which is the version that is supposed to support the 810 on FreeBSD, but I cannot the XF86Config to successfully complete. One piece of info on xfree86.org says that 4.1.0 supports the intel 810 on FreeBSD with the agpgart kernel support. I have never heard of agpgart, and can find no reference to it in any docs that I have seen. Can someone 1) enlighten me as to what agpgart is and tell me how to make sure its on my machine, 2) give me any other tips that I might need to get xf86 installed on my system.... Thanks in advance Steve Dobbs .sig? We don't need no stinkin .sig. Whoops. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 12:38: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DB6837B405 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:37:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 53011 invoked by uid 1000); 14 Jun 2001 19:38:20 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:38:20 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Jaye Mathisen Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't newfs big filesystem (twe/4.3-stable) Message-ID: <20010614213820.I49807@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20010613104512.M51977@apocalypse.cdsnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ELVYuRnMxQ5nnKRy" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010613104512.M51977@apocalypse.cdsnet.net>; from mrcpu@internetcds.com on Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 10:45:13AM -0700 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ELVYuRnMxQ5nnKRy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jaye Mathisen(mrcpu@internetcds.com)@2001.06.13 10:45:13 +0000: [...] > Frankly, I need a whopping about 10 files on this FS, but: if you work with constant-size databases or rdbms with table on raw device support you should consider circumventing the filesystem layer and it's limitations it put on you and your software. this rather looks like a bigger db setup to me, reading this from you sentence above ;-) if you plan to use the filesystem anyway, you could newfs with matt's values and double check that softupdates are turned on. have fun /k --=20 > Black holes are where GOD is dividing by zero KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 --ELVYuRnMxQ5nnKRy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7KRKsM0BPTilkv0YRAomFAKDEPB2h1OVEmvD7pOwQWPMDDiSRYACgseQC 7rdMZvTBXcgKWwiuhSHLN60= =Z9rN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ELVYuRnMxQ5nnKRy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 12:48:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13FB37B40D for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:48:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5EJmOe28264; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:48:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:48:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106141948.f5EJmOe28264@earth.backplane.com> To: David Miller Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: serial port stuck at 9600 References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :configured with the com port on "auto". When set to be com1 at IRQ 4 it :ceased to function at all, matching the other two systems. : :I've tracked the problem down to the port (ttyd0) not having DCD :input. Using cuaa0 worked fine, so the serial port is OK. : :I checked the cable, and DCD is wired straight through (pin 1 on the 9 pin :ports), so it's not the cable. That is the cable... when building a null modem cable DTR is supposed to be wired to DCD and vise versa. It should be something like: DTR -> DCD DTR -> DSR DCD <- DTR DSR <- DTR RTS -> CTS CTS <- RTS TX -> RX RX <- TX SGND<-> SGND -Matt :I'm connecting with a serial port on another PC running freebsd and "cu -l :/dev/cuaa0 or cu -l /dev/ttyd0". In both cases I get a connection :message, but the remote end never responds. I slapped a breakout box on :the end of the cable and confirmed that DCD is not being raised by cu. : :That means my question is: "When using a FreeBSD system as a console for :another system, how do I raise DCD in order to establish a connection?" : :Clues welcomed:) : :--- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 12:50:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from core.usrlib.org (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9949B37B405 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:50:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@core.usrlib.org) Received: by core.usrlib.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A82D2A876; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:48:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:48:45 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Steve Dobbs Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0 & intel 810 graphics Message-ID: <20010614144845.B7853@core.usrlib.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Steve.Dobbs@networktelephone.net on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 02:33:39PM -0500 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 02:33:39PM -0500, Steve Dobbs wrote: > I have a box that has the intel 810 graphics set built on the motherboard, > and have attempted to install XFree86 4.1.0 on it, which is the version that > is supposed to support the 810 on FreeBSD, but I cannot the XF86Config to > successfully complete. One piece of info on xfree86.org says that 4.1.0 > supports the intel 810 on FreeBSD with the agpgart kernel support. I have > never heard of agpgart, and can find no reference to it in any docs that I > have seen. Can someone 1) enlighten me as to what agpgart is and tell me > how to make sure its on my machine, 2) give me any other tips that I might > need to get xf86 installed on my system.... > > Thanks in advance > > Steve Dobbs > .sig? We don't need no stinkin .sig. > Whoops. agpgart support can be built into a kernel by adding device agp to your kernel configuration file and recompiling. Alternatively, you can use the loadable kernel module, with kldload /modules/agp.ko from your favorite shell as root. Make sure you add Option "NoDDC" to the "Device" section of XF86Config or you will hose your display. Also, be sure you have a recent version of the XFRee86 port, which has my patch to make the i810 switch VTs without crashing. Check to make sure you have the patch in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/files/patch-i810, then build the port with make install from /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@usrlib.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 12:57:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr2.ericy.com (imr2.ericy.com [12.34.240.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DF137B401 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:56:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr5.exu.ericsson.se (mr5att.ericy.com [138.85.92.13]) by imr2.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5EJuZR08838 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:56:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr5.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5EJuXb25624 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:56:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f5EJuXG25439 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:56:30 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id M8GVXWKW; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:54:36 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B29167C.3000008@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:54:36 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010607 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: OT: rendered copies of RelnotesNG in the tree (was: RELNOTESng problems) References: <200106121443.KAA18844@world.std.com> <3B2637CA.9050803@lmc.ericsson.se> <200106121629.f5CGTZF27955@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <3B265047.4060605@lmc.ericsson.se> <200106130352.f5D3qvB37402@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" wrote: > > >>>How does the Web-available versions differ from putting the TXT >>>rendering in the repository? >>> >> >>Not much. But one might like to consider the idea of having the TXT >>files *implicitly* available along the source code (bundled), instead of >>as a "foreign" reference on a website. I can see many situations where >>one could not have access to the web but only acces to the local machine >>which contains the source code. >> > > I'm trying to picture someone tracking -STABLE (for instance) but not > being able to pull down a Web page...CTM users are the only group of > people who come to mind, potentially. Yes. Or a remote machine placed beyond a few levels of firewalls/proxies. :) >>Another thing which crosses my mind: when someone installs a RELEASE, >>the relnotes TXT/rendered versions come with it and are installed as >>part of the install process, right? > > No, actually I don't think the release documentation gets installed...it > stays on the install media. Someone correct me if this is wrong... I would be nice to make sure. Actually, it depends on the presence of these files in the "src" distro, I guess. :) > I confess that I haven't done a sysinstall for about a year. A year? Much more than that! ;) > cvsup/make world doesn't touch these either (I know that for sure). Ditto. >>>The Web versions will (once the Web >>>Gods make a couple of commits) get built as frequently as the Web site >>>is. >> >>That's about once a day, if I'm not mistaken? > > I *think* it's twice a day for the main server; don't know about the > mirrors. Then that's good. >>How technically feasable would it be to have the TXT files rebuilt on >>the fly, after a commit on the related .sgml file? > > I don't know of any easy way to do this. The problem is that the *.TXT > rebuild requires running a process (OK, a bunch of processes) that may > or not produce successful output. It's a lot for the CVS server to > have to handle, and we can't very well require this on the CVS clients. You're right. Having this on a cvs[up] server would be totally mad/inappropriate. :) Building the release notes is now a pretty heavy activity! > You didn't suggest this, but in case someone *else* thinks of it, no, > we'll never have a policy of requiring manual commits of *.TXT > renderings. Well I kinda suggested that in some way, since there's not really another alternative. But I guess it's zeroed out now. >>>In the meantime, you can look at the version on my Web page. They're >>>updated pretty often, on an unofficial basis. >> >>Assuming I have access to the web. :) That is of course considered >>irrelevent nowadays, but I find that still a considerable requisite to >>have access to notes so tightly integrated (or relevant? I miss the >>proper word) to the source... These things should all be bundled together. > > I think "integrated" is the word you mean. Bundled. It should be the same package. > If I only had intermittent net access, and I couldn't build the release > documentation locally, I'd do a fetch on the Web site at the same time > as a cvsup of my sources. Probably done with a script. Not the most > well-coupled solution, I realize: > > #! /bin/sh > cvsup -g -L2 path/to/my/supfile > fetch http://www.freebsd.org/path/to/relnotes.txt > fetch http://www.freebsd.org/path/to/hardware.txt > fetch http://www.freebsd.org/path/to/install.txt > fetch http://www.freebsd.org/path/to/readme.txt > fetch http://www.freebsd.org/path/to/errata.txt Yah... We should really have a centralized/official "process" regarding that. er.. We do, actually. :) This could be put in the "update" target of the make world makefiles! >>Actually, the release notes are *implicitly* out of date, since we have >>no formal/automated system of updating the relnotes when a major change >>is made. AFAIK, there is someone (you, Bruce?:) that updates them by >>watching cvs-all, but that is also an out of date process. >> >>OTOH, putting the TXT files in the repository would also add to the delay. > > It's usually me who writes these things. It'd be nice if more > developers wrote their own release notes though. gshapiro is actually > really good about doing release note commits at the same time as his > source commits. Good job. :) Regards, Antoine -- La sémantique est la gravité de l'abstraction. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 13:23: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ler-freebie.iadfw.net (ler-freebie.iadfw.net [206.66.13.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2FA37B403 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:23:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@ler-freebie.iadfw.net) Received: (from ler@localhost) by ler-freebie.iadfw.net (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5EKMrm27063; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:22:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ler) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:22:53 -0500 From: Larry Rosenman To: Mike Meyer Cc: Kal Torak , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: STAROFFICE Broke? Message-ID: <20010614152253.A27055@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> References: <20010614094201.A5070@lerami.lerctr.org> <3B28CF25.BADC984D@quake.com.au> <20010614095121.A7785@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> <15144.53428.793574.696095@guru.mired.org> <20010614101611.A8061@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> <15144.54683.266309.376223@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15144.54683.266309.376223@guru.mired.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Mike Meyer [010614 10:19]: > > Larry Rosenman types: > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 09:56:52AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > Larry Rosenman types: > > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 12:50:13AM +1000, Kal Torak wrote: > > > > > Strange it was working fine after I cvsup'd about ~1 week ago... > > > > Ok, so somewhere between ~1 week ago and yesterday.... Hmm. > > > > I just checked, and my last BuildWorld was 4Jun2001... > > > > > > Seems to start for me on a 10Jun2001 build. I don't normally use it, > > > so I can't say much beyond "it starts". > > Does it actually display it's screen? I just get the splash screen... > > Yup, it opens it's big window, and displays the icons in it. I opened a PR about it... KERN/28152 LER > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 13:42:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snapple.webct.com (snapple.webct.com [209.87.17.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55AF237B403 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:42:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from varju@snapple.webct.com) Received: (from varju@localhost) by snapple.webct.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5EKg1L16644; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:42:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from varju) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:42:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Varju To: Andrew Hesford Cc: Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0 & intel 810 graphics In-Reply-To: <20010614144845.B7853@core.usrlib.org> Message-ID: <20010614134059.B951-100000@snapple.webct.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > Make sure you add > > Option "NoDDC" > > to the "Device" section of XF86Config or you will hose your display. Thank you! I've been searching high and low and really needed to know this. Finally my i815 display is working. Alex. -- alex varju just a guy webct canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 14: 1: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dargo.talarian.com (dargo.talarian.com [207.5.33.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD1F37B40A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:00:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from moya.talarian.com (moya.talarian.com [10.4.10.8]) by dargo.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D129022B19; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beast.talarian.com (beast.talarian.com [10.4.10.6]) by moya.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E347922; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quack.kfu.com (localhost [::1]) by beast.talarian.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5EL0g727143; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:00:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Message-ID: <3B2925FA.3040104@quack.kfu.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:00:42 -0700 From: Nick Sayer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010613 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Dillon Cc: David Miller , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: serial port stuck at 9600 References: <200106141948.f5EJmOe28264@earth.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Dillon wrote: [..] > That is the cable... when building a null modem cable DTR is supposed to > be wired to DCD and vise versa. It should be something like: > > DTR -> DCD > DTR -> DSR > DCD <- DTR > DSR <- DTR > RTS -> CTS > CTS <- RTS > TX -> RX > RX <- TX > SGND<-> SGND > Matt is right, but I will add one aside. I wanted a while ago to make a cable to connect my Ricochet to my Palm. Both have serial ports wired as DCEs instead of DTEs, and a traditional null-modem cable actually didn't work properly. The problem was that in this case the pins actually had the opposite meaning than was expected. So when tying DTEs together, the above is correct. For tying DCEs together, you really don't want a null modem, you really want a "null terminal", I guess, which is a bit more rare. The wiring for that is the same, except that DSR and DTR "cross" from one side to the other in a way no different from RTS and CTS. DCD in this situation is a bit of a question mark, since both sides would presumably want to supply it rather than listen on it. In the scenario involving the Palm, it's a no-brainer, since DCD is not connected to anything on the Palm. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 15: 6:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE3F37B408 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:06:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@neomedia.it) Received: (from httpd@localhost) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.11.3/8.10.1) id f5EM5m221315; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:05:48 +0200 (CEST) To: Larry Rosenman Subject: Re: STAROFFICE Broke? Message-ID: <992556348.3b29353ca6fe1@webmail.neomedia.it> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:05:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: Mike Meyer , Kal Torak , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4-cvs X-WebMail-Company: Neomedia s.a.s. X-Originating-IP: 62.98.162.248 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Apparently something changed in the last 2-3 weeks on 4.3-STABLE such > that StarOffice 5.2 no longer comes up. It seems to get stuck in a > linux_newselect/sched_yield loop, and doesn't finish coming up. > It worked fine up until I cvsup'd yesterday. (from ~3 weeks ago). > Anyone else seeing this? Dear Mr Rosenman, I am sorry to inform you that you could be incorrect, whatever the definition of incorrect may be :-) Seriouly though, I am running a freshly-built 4.3-STABLE system (sources as of June 10 ~ 13:00 GMT, 2001, from the Danish mirror), the latest XFree86-4 (cvsupped and built last night), and I have no difficulties whatsoever with bloat^H^H^H^HStaroffice-5.2 -- it even works as a browser. On the other hand, I last built bloat^WStaroffice on my home 'puter on March 13, 2001 (!). -- Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 16:27: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sentry.lonesome.org (kpt-c-24-158-106-5.chartertn.net [24.158.106.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E7C37B403 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:26:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ericg@chartertn.net) Received: from zaphod (zaphod.lonesome.org [192.168.1.88]) by sentry.lonesome.org (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5ENQnK38462 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:26:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ericg@chartertn.net) From: "Eric Olsen" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:27:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0 & intel 810 graphics Reply-To: ericg@chartertn.net Message-ID: <3B291019.29063.16205C3B@localhost> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, I'll bite. Where do you get this "recent version" of the port? I've checked through , and none have your patch-i810. In fact, from the Makefile, it's version 4.0.3 rather than 4.1x Thanks, Eric ====================== On 14 Jun 2001, at 15:06, Andrew Hesford wrote: > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:48:45 -0500 > From: Andrew Hesford > Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0 & intel 810 graphics > > Also, be sure you have a recent version of the XFRee86 port, which has > my patch to make the i810 switch VTs without crashing. Check to make > sure you have the patch in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/files/patch-i810, > then build the port with > > make install > > from /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4. > - -- > Andrew Hesford > ajh3@usrlib.org > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 16:38:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from core.usrlib.org (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FF237B403 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:38:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@core.usrlib.org) Received: by core.usrlib.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 20452A876; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:37:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:37:22 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Eric Olsen Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0 & intel 810 graphics Message-ID: <20010614183721.B8404@core.usrlib.org> References: <3B291019.29063.16205C3B@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B291019.29063.16205C3B@localhost>; from ericg@chartertn.net on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 07:27:21PM -0400 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 07:27:21PM -0400, Eric Olsen wrote: > OK, I'll bite. > > Where do you get this "recent version" of the port? I've checked > current/ports/x11/XFree86-4/> through , and > none have your patch-i810. In fact, from the Makefile, it's version > 4.0.3 rather than 4.1x > > Thanks, > Eric > > > ====================== > On 14 Jun 2001, at 15:06, Andrew Hesford wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:48:45 -0500 > > From: Andrew Hesford > > Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0 & intel 810 graphics > > > > > Also, be sure you have a recent version of the XFRee86 port, which has > > my patch to make the i810 switch VTs without crashing. Check to make > > sure you have the patch in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/files/patch-i810, > > then build the port with > > > > make install > > > > from /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4. You need to cvsup your ports tree to get the most current XFree86 branch. If you don't know how to do this, there is a section in the handbook about it. The ftp sites lag behind the most current ports tree. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@usrlib.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 16:50:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E20737B406 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:50:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.12.0.Beta10/8.12.0.Beta10/20010318/$Revision: 1.22 $) with ESMTP id f5ENoqZw008871; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:50:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ler@lerami.lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.12.0.Beta10/8.12.0.Beta10) id f5ENopmU008870; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:50:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ler) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:50:51 -0500 From: Larry Rosenman To: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: Mike Meyer , Kal Torak , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: STAROFFICE Broke? Message-ID: <20010614185051.A8100@lerami.lerctr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <992556348.3b29353ca6fe1@webmail.neomedia.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Salvo Bartolotta [010614 17:07]: > > > > Apparently something changed in the last 2-3 weeks on 4.3-STABLE such > > that StarOffice 5.2 no longer comes up. It seems to get stuck in a > > linux_newselect/sched_yield loop, and doesn't finish coming up. > > > It worked fine up until I cvsup'd yesterday. (from ~3 weeks ago). > > > Anyone else seeing this? > > > > > Dear Mr Rosenman, > > I am sorry to inform you that you could be incorrect, whatever the definition > of incorrect may be :-) > > Seriouly though, I am running a freshly-built 4.3-STABLE system (sources as of > June 10 ~ 13:00 GMT, 2001, from the Danish mirror), the latest XFree86-4 > (cvsupped and built last night), and I have no difficulties whatsoever with > bloat^H^H^H^HStaroffice-5.2 -- it even works as a browser. On the other hand, > I last built bloat^WStaroffice on my home 'puter on March 13, 2001 (!). This jives with what Mike Meyer said earlier in the thread. So it broke between 10Jun2001 and yesterday around 17:00 UTC-0500. LER > > -- Salvo > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 20:39: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sentry.lonesome.org (kpt-c-24-158-106-5.chartertn.net [24.158.106.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3793F37B40B for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:38:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ericg@chartertn.net) Received: from zaphod (zaphod.lonesome.org [192.168.1.88]) by sentry.lonesome.org (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5F3cKK38793; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:38:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ericg@chartertn.net) From: "Eric Olsen" To: Andrew Hesford , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:38:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0 & intel 810 graphics Reply-To: ericg@chartertn.net Message-ID: <3B294B0C.2284.1706A1AF@localhost> In-reply-to: <20010614183721.B8404@core.usrlib.org> References: <3B291019.29063.16205C3B@localhost>; from ericg@chartertn.net on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 07:27:21PM -0400 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the quick reply, Andrew. I'll give that a try. I haven't used cvs before, so I get the chance to learn many new things :-) I had installed the binaries from XFree86.org, and they kinda sorta worked, so I am glad to see there are improvements even on that. It is kind of a drag not to be able to switch away from (and then back to) the GUI terminal. Also, agp.ko couldn't allocate any memory, so I was stuck at 8-bit color. (Note the hopeful use of past tense...) Regards, Eric ====================== On 14 Jun 2001, at 18:37, Andrew Hesford wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 07:27:21PM -0400, Eric Olsen wrote: > > OK, I'll bite. > > > > Where do you get this "recent version" of the port? I've checked > > > current/ports/x11/XFree86-4/> through , > > and none have your patch-i810. In fact, from the Makefile, it's > > version 4.0.3 rather than 4.1x > > > > Thanks, > > Eric > > > > > > ====================== > > On 14 Jun 2001, at 15:06, Andrew Hesford wrote: > > > > > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:48:45 -0500 > > > From: Andrew Hesford > > > Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0 & intel 810 graphics > > > > > > > > Also, be sure you have a recent version of the XFRee86 port, which > > > has my patch to make the i810 switch VTs without crashing. Check to > > > make sure you have the patch in > > > /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/files/patch-i810, then build the port with > > > > > > make install > > > > > > from /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4. > > You need to cvsup your ports tree to get the most current XFree86 > branch. If you don't know how to do this, there is a section in the > handbook about it. > > The ftp sites lag behind the most current ports tree. > > -- > Andrew Hesford > ajh3@usrlib.org > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 20:46:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.skyinet.net (SMTP.SKYINET.NET [206.101.197.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EBA37B409 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:46:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mars@cannoncreek.com) Received: from hellraiser.cannoncreek.com (unknown [202.78.79.4]) by smtp.skyinet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F11732810 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:46:27 +0800 (PHT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Mars G Miro Reply-To: mars@cannoncreek.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: "Warnings" in buildworld Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:55:40 +0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Received: from the Dark Corners of Oblivion (172.16.1.254) X-Sender-Ip: 172.16.1.254 X-Copyright: Mars G. Miro MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061511554000.71686@hellraiser.cannoncreek.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, Just finished building world on RELENG_4_3, and because I always have a copy of the process: $ grep -in Warning makebw-20010615.log | wc -l 287 Searching from the archives, I found this from our security-officer on Warnings: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1248457+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2001/freebsd-questions/20010218.freebsd-questions Then I also found this regarding Warnings and the use of 'mktemp': http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1102007+1104647+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/freebsd-questions/20000109.freebsd-questions $ grep -in Warning makebw-20010615.log |grep mktemp|wc -l 45 Any thoughts? cheers mars To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 14 23:41:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl [131.155.56.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650F437B405 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:41:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karelj@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl) Received: (from karelj@localhost) by wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5F6fD103643 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:41:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from karelj) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:41:08 +0200 From: "Karel J. Bosschaart" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: reproducible panic (was: problem reading one or more particular file(s) from CD) Message-ID: <20010615084108.A3590@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> References: <20010614153251.A86540@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010614153251.A86540@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl>; from karelj@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 03:32:51PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Follow-up to -stable as I think that's a more appropriate place for this] It seems my CD reading trouble can cause a panic - I included a gdb session below, and hope someone can shed some light on it. On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 03:32:51PM +0200, Karel J. Bosschaart wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a problem reading some files off CD's that I burnt with the > mkisofs/cdrecord combo; I mount it as usual, and copy the contents. However, > one of the files is not copied, as cp says "Bad address", while the console > shows > > Jun 14 14:41:30 wop21 /kernel: cd9660: Joliet Extension (Level 3) > acd0: READ_BIG - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=64 ascq=00 error=01 > vm_fault: pager read error, pid 86366 (cp) > > (the first line is from the mount command) > I thought this to be some bad spot on the CD, but it happens more often than > would be reasonable, as I had yesterday 4 of such CD's in a row, and I had > similar trouble in the past, sometimes with more than just one file. Also, it > happens consistently always on the same file(s), and in both of my CD players > (both SCSI). I tried on other machines: a 4.1.1-STABLE with IDE drive: same > problem, as well as on another 4.3-RC with IDE. > > When dumping the CD content with dd to the harddisk and mounting the image > using vnconfig, I can copy the 'lost' file without any trouble! Also, > firing up VMware with NT4 will let me copy that file. A Win'98 box didn't > give me any trouble copying that file. > > Finally, I found a FreeBSD box (4.3-STABLE with IDE drive) that is able to > copy the particular file, and it never failed (I tried 10 times or so). > > Does someone has an idea as where to start searching for the problem? I'm > getting a bit concerned about the safety of my data on CD. > > Maybe important: it appears (at least in the 4 cases from yesterday) that > it concerns the file that was last written to the CD, which is also filled > up almost entirely (648 to 650 MB, with 1 MB = 1024*1024). But from the > findings with dd, VMware, Win'98 and that particular FreeBSD machine I'd > say that the iso is correct and complete. > I experimented further with my CD reading problems and now I'm able to get a reproducible panic on two different machines (recent 4.3-STABLE and 4.3-RC) when doing the following: 1) accessing a file (for example with 'mpg123' or 'strings') on a mounted cdrom that would give me a 'Bad address' when trying to cp it. Accessing it this way seems to cause no trouble reading it. 2) An attempt to cp the file now leads to a 'panic: vm_page_free: freeing wired page' and subsequent reboot. I tried two different CD's, both of which cause this problem. The back trace of one of the crash dumps is below. homeflame# gdb -k GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd". (kgdb) symbol-file kernel.debug Reading symbols from kernel.debug...done. (kgdb) exec-file /home/karelj/savecore/crash2/kernel.0 (kgdb) core-file /home/karelj/savecore/crash2/vmcore.0 IdlePTD 3969024 initial pcb at 303e80 panicstr: vm_page_free: freeing wired page panic messages: --- panic: vm_page_free: freeing wired page syncing disks... 11 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 giving up on 3 buffers Uptime: 25m1s /dev/vmmon: Module vmmon: unloaded dumping to dev #da/0x20001, offset 8224 dump 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 --- #0 0xc015c16a in dumpsys () (kgdb) bt #0 0xc015c16a in dumpsys () #1 0xc015bf8b in boot () #2 0xc015c308 in poweroff_wait () #3 0xc02409e6 in vm_page_free_toq () #4 0xc0239141 in vm_fault () #5 0xc028e54a in trap_pfault () #6 0xc028e16f in trap () #7 0xc028cfd2 in slow_copyin () #8 0xc022f9fd in ffs_write () #9 0xc018f576 in vn_write () #10 0xc016a2d1 in dofilewrite () #11 0xc016a18a in write () #12 0xc028eb89 in syscall2 () #13 0xc02808f5 in Xint0x80_syscall () #14 0x80489a9 in ?? () #15 0x804853e in ?? () #16 0x8048135 in ?? () (kgdb) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 0:58:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web11204.mail.yahoo.com (web11204.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D7EC37B408 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:58:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e_chelon@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010615075819.23395.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.252.144.28] by web11204.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:58:19 PDT Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:58:19 -0700 (PDT) From: echelon Subject: FreeBSD 4.3 stable & PPPoE To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear FreeBSD experts, Can you let me know what should I do to provide enough information for the FreeBSD developers to trace/ debug/ fix the PPPoE I experienced with FreeBSD 4.3 stable, please? I tried to upgrade from 4.2 stable to 4.3 stable several times after a cvsup and a clean buildworld during the last two months (April - June 2001). As of today, my box still couldn't connect to my ISP via pppoe with 4.3 stable. I have no choice but to switch back to 4.2 stable (tcpdump on 4.2 is attached below). In other world, I can connect to my ISP with FreeBSD 4.2 stable only. Above all, I cannot enjoy the improvements the FreeBSD developers have made on 4.3 stable. I am bound to 4.2 stable. Thank you. -echelon Here is the tcpdump I got: For 4.3, (cvsup on May 15 and before), PADI-PADO-PADR-PADS received but PADT arrived before an ip was allocated to my box. (cvsup on June 14), my box send out a stream of PADI without receiveing any PADO. (tcpdump on 4.2 stable for a normal connection) tcpdump: listening on xl0 14:37:23.765991 Broadcast 8863 32: PPPoE PADI [Host-Uniq UTF8] 14:37:25.762297 Broadcast 8863 32: PPPoE PADI [Host-Uniq UTF8] 14:37:25.765052 8863 67: PPPoE PADO [Host-Uniq UTF8] [Service-Name] [AC-Name "XXXX-X-XXXX"] [AC-Cookie UTF8] 14:37:25.765070 8863 67: PPPoE PADR [Host-Uniq UTF8] [AC-Cookie UTF8] [AC-Name "XXXX-X-XXXX"] 14:37:25.957263 8863 67: PPPoE PADS [ses 0x79eb] [Host-Uniq UTF8] [AC-Cookie UTF8] [AC-Name "XXXX-X-XXXX"] 14:37:25.965396 8864 60: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] LCP ConfReq id=0x1 14:37:26.506862 8864 36: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] LCP ConfReq id=0x1 14:37:26.506914 8864 36: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] LCP ConfAck id=0x1 14:37:26.510170 8864 60: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] LCP ConfNak id=0x1 14:37:26.510294 8864 36: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] LCP ConfReq id=0x2 14:37:26.513226 8864 60: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] LCP ConfAck id=0x2 14:37:26.513806 8864 54: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] PAP 14:37:26.707275 8864 60: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] PAP 14:37:26.707818 8864 60: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] IPCP 14:37:26.710496 8864 32: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] proto-0x80fd 14:37:26.710550 8864 50: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] IPCP 14:37:26.710598 8864 32: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] IPCP 14:37:26.714876 8864 60: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] LCP ProtRej id=0x1 prot=PROT-0x80fd 14:37:26.716304 8864 60: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] IPCP 14:37:26.717307 8864 44: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] IPCP 14:37:26.721494 8864 60: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] IPCP 14:37:26.722677 8864 44: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] IPCP 14:37:26.728334 8864 60: PPPoE [ses 0x79eb] IPCP ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 1:28:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170B637B403 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:28:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA50041 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:28:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA30061 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:28:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: (from root@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f5F8SA549745 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:28:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.11.2/8.11.1av) id f5F8S8G49732 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:28:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:28:08 +0200 From: Gunnar Flygt To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Problems with building kernel in 4.3-STABLE cvsuped 15 min ago Message-ID: <20010615102808.A49613@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt Mail-Followup-To: Gunnar Flygt , FreeBSD Stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is anyone having trouble building GENERIC as of today? It stops when trying to build module ipfilter. Looks like this: ===> ip6fw cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DIPV6FIREWALL -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnest ed-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -W cast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../ include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -c /usr/src/sys/modules/ip6fw/../../netine t6/ip6_fw.c ld -r -o ip6fw.kld ip6_fw.o gensetdefs ip6fw.kld cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DIPV6FIREWALL -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnest ed-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -W cast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../ include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -c setdef0.c cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DIPV6FIREWALL -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnest ed-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -W cast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../ include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -c setdef1.c ld -Bshareable -o ip6fw.ko setdef0.o ip6fw.kld setdef1.o ===> ipfilter make: don't know how to make /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/../../netinet/mlfk_ip l.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. It seems there is no mlfk_ipl.c in the directory desired. -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 1:31:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D4E37B405 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:31:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f5F8UaV50116; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:30:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:30:36 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Gunnar Flygt Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Problems with building kernel in 4.3-STABLE cvsuped 15 min ago Message-ID: <20010615113036.A49638@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Gunnar Flygt , FreeBSD Stable References: <20010615102808.A49613@sr.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010615102808.A49613@sr.se>; from flygt@sr.se on Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:28:08AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check that you have this: $FreeBSD: src/sys/modules/ipfilter/Makefile,v 1.2.2.2 2001/06/07 05:11:44 jlemon Exp $ On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:28:08AM +0200, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > Is anyone having trouble building GENERIC as of today? It stops when > trying to build module ipfilter. Looks like this: > > ===> ipfilter > make: don't know how to make /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/../../netinet/mlfk_ip > l.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 1:35:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F8C37B406; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:34:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA50529; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:34:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA30880; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:34:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: (from root@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f5F8Yon49943; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:34:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.11.2/8.11.1av) id f5F8YmA49934; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:34:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:34:48 +0200 From: Gunnar Flygt To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Problems with building kernel in 4.3-STABLE cvsuped 15 min ago Message-ID: <20010615103448.B49613@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt Mail-Followup-To: Gunnar Flygt , Ruslan Ermilov , FreeBSD Stable References: <20010615102808.A49613@sr.se> <20010615113036.A49638@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010615113036.A49638@sunbay.com>; from ru@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 11:30:36AM +0300 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 11:30:36AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > Check that you have this: > > $FreeBSD: src/sys/modules/ipfilter/Makefile,v 1.2.2.2 2001/06/07 05:11:44 jlemon Exp $ > Geee, real quick answer there! :) This is what I've got: 2$ less /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/Makefile # $FreeBSD: src/sys/modules/ipfilter/Makefile,v 1.2.2.2 2001/06/07 05:11:44 jlem on Exp $ So it seems OK. I found the file under src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet instead. Did a dirty solution and linked it to the directory wanted in the Makefile. Will it work? > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:28:08AM +0200, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > > Is anyone having trouble building GENERIC as of today? It stops when > > trying to build module ipfilter. Looks like this: > > > > ===> ipfilter > > make: don't know how to make /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/../../netinet/mlfk_ip > > l.c. Stop > > *** Error code 2 > > -- > Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, > ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, > ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, > +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine > > http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 1:39:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19F037B408 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:38:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f5F8caK50750; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:38:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:38:36 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Gunnar Flygt , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Problems with building kernel in 4.3-STABLE cvsuped 15 min ago Message-ID: <20010615113836.B49638@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Gunnar Flygt , FreeBSD Stable References: <20010615102808.A49613@sr.se> <20010615113036.A49638@sunbay.com> <20010615103448.B49613@sr.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010615103448.B49613@sr.se>; from flygt@sr.se on Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:34:48AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Then `make cleandir' twice in sys/modules/ipfilter to get rid of stale .depend files. Then `make obj; make depend; make all' from there once again. Everything should be OK now. On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:34:48AM +0200, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 11:30:36AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > Check that you have this: > > > > $FreeBSD: src/sys/modules/ipfilter/Makefile,v 1.2.2.2 2001/06/07 05:11:44 jlemon Exp $ > > > > Geee, real quick answer there! :) This is what I've got: > 2$ less /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/Makefile > # $FreeBSD: src/sys/modules/ipfilter/Makefile,v 1.2.2.2 2001/06/07 05:11:44 jlem > on Exp $ > > So it seems OK. I found the file under src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet > instead. Did a dirty solution and linked it to the directory wanted in > the Makefile. Will it work? > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:28:08AM +0200, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > > > Is anyone having trouble building GENERIC as of today? It stops when > > > trying to build module ipfilter. Looks like this: > > > > > > ===> ipfilter > > > make: don't know how to make /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/../../netinet/mlfk_ip > > > l.c. Stop > > > *** Error code 2 > > > > -- > > Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, > > ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, > > ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, > > +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine > > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > > http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age > > -- > __o > regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ > email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 1:45:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fep04-svc.swip.net (fep04.swip.net [130.244.199.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49CA37B407 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:44:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erik@swip.net) Received: from swip.net ([130.244.254.1]) by fep04-svc.swip.net with ESMTP id <20010615084438.BBJW5337.fep04-svc.swip.net@swip.net> for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:44:38 +0200 Message-ID: <3B29CAE0.2070203@swip.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:44:16 +0200 From: Erik Nygren User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386; en-US; rv:0.9) Gecko/20010531 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Linux-support Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030801080700030607020308" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030801080700030607020308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After my latest make world I have trouble with /compat/linux/dev/hda My computer says device is not configured. Is this something I have missed out or is it something that have gone broken in the Linux-support? Oh, this breaks VMwares support for existing partitions of course. (Which is my original problem). /usr/src cvsup:ed about 9 AM (GMT+2) 14. of June, I think. Appending output from dmesg... regards Erik Nygren --------------030801080700030607020308 Content-Type: text/plain; name="dmesg.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dmesg.txt" Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #6: Fri Jun 15 08:53:55 CEST 2001 root@teddy.swip.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/TEDDY Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (798.86-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 267386880 (261120K bytes) avail memory = 257138688 (251112K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc032e000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at 2.0 irq 10 pcib1: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib1 fxp0: port 0x1000-0x103f mem 0x40000000-0x40000fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci2 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:a5:31:af:99 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x2460-0x246f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0x2440-0x245f irq 10 at device 31.4 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2445) at 31.5 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0x8 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0x10 sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 ata1-slave: ata_command: timeout waiting for intr ata1-slave: identify failed ad0: 9541MB [19386/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a /dev/vmmon: Module vmmon: registered with major=200 minor=0 tag=$Name: build-570 $ /dev/vmmon: Module vmmon: initialized fxp0: promiscuous mode enabled vmnet1: promiscuous mode enabled agp0: mem 0x40400000-0x4047ffff,0x44000000-0x47ffffff irq 10 at device 2.0 on pci0 --------------030801080700030607020308-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 1:52:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.batterybackups.net (adsl-63-197-143-124.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net [63.197.143.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DDB37B405 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:52:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from news@batterybackups.net) Received: from news by server.batterybackups.net with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15ApL9-0001yO-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:52:27 +0000 To: stable@freebsd.org From: aaske@batterybackups.net Subject: USB Logitech joystick & 4.3-STABLE. Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:52:26 -0700 Organization: InterNetNews Lines: 39 Message-ID: <3B29CCCA.D620953@batterybackups.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello gentlemen & freebsd-stable readers; I get a very similar problem as this thread: Panic start when I plug in my USB Logitech joystick. Take out the stick and everything's perfect. It is plugged in via a self-power USB hub. No problems until I build latest 4.3-STABLE. Previous build of May 19 -STABLE worked fine. Peruse these files for possible information. I have built a crashfile, following the instructions in the handbook. (1079461 bytes) (4382191 bytes) usbdevs -v: Controller /dev/usb0: addr 1: self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), VIA(0x0000), rev 0x0100 port 1 addr 2: self powered, config 1, UT-USB41 hub(0x1446), Texas Instruments(0x0451), rev 0x0100 port 1 powered port 2 powered port 3 powered port 4 powered port 5 powered port 6 addr 3: self powered, config 1, product 0x23dd(0x23dd), vendor 0x0924(0x0924), rev 0x0100 port 7 addr 4: low speed, power 20 mA, config 1, product 0xc207(0xc207), Logitech, Inc.(0x046d), rev 0x0104 port 2 powered Please, Let me know if i can be of additional assistance, how i can fix the problem, or what i have done wrong. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 2:22: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from easynet-gw.netvalue.fr (easynet-gw.netvalue.fr [212.180.121.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7843837B403; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:21:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erwan@netvalue.com) Received: from mail.netvalue.fr (unknown [192.168.1.13]) by easynet-gw.netvalue.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9688C6B; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:21:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-fr.netvalue.fr ([192.168.1.18]) by mail.netvalue.fr (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA4766; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:21:52 +0200 Received: from netvalue.com ([192.168.1.170]) by mail-fr.netvalue.fr (Netscape Messaging Server 4.01) with ESMTP id GEYSOE00.46B; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:21:50 +0200 Message-ID: <3B29D3C5.517CC07B@netvalue.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:22:13 +0200 From: Erwan Arzur Organization: NetValue Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en, fr-FR MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Nygren Cc: stable@freebsd.org, marcel@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Linux-support References: <3B29CAE0.2070203@swip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Erik Nygren wrote: > > After my latest make world I have trouble with /compat/linux/dev/hda > My computer says device is not configured. Is this something I have > missed out or is it something that have gone broken in the Linux-support? > Oh, this breaks VMwares support for existing partitions of course. > (Which is my original problem). > /usr/src cvsup:ed about 9 AM (GMT+2) 14. of June, I think. > Appending output from dmesg... > See PR #ports/28030 I can't figure out what changed and when using the CVS repo. It's related to the disappearance of block devices in the base system (hda & hdb are block devices under Linux) Maybe we would need a new "char to block bridge" in the linuxator ? -- UNIX *IS* user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are. --unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 2:47:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hq.admiral.ru (hq.admiral.ru [217.146.192.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DB737B406 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:47:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@mordor.admiral.ru) Received: from mordor.admiral.ru (ip147-192.admiral.ru [217.146.192.147] (may be forged)) by hq.admiral.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA05718 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:47:34 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from igor@mordor.admiral.ru) Received: (from igor@localhost) by mordor.admiral.ru (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5F9nYH00508 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:49:34 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from igor) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:49:34 +0400 From: Igor Robul To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: top does not work on P-1 SMP box Message-ID: <20010615134934.A452@mordor.admiral.ru> Reply-To: igorr@admiral.ru Mail-Followup-To: Igor Robul , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have one dual Pentium-1 box with FreeBSD-STABLE. "top" fails on it: %uname -a FreeBSD hosting.admiral.ru 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #1: Thu Jun 14 17:20:16 MSD 2001 igor@hosting.admiral.ru:/opt/obj/usr/src/sys/HOSTING i386 %top top: nlist failed % This looks like kernel/userland out-of-sync, but they are in sync :-) I don't have this problem on UP systems with same -STABLE Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 2:58:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 354C137B403 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:58:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 15 Jun 2001 10:58:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:58:29 +0100 From: David Malone To: igorr@admiral.ru Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top does not work on P-1 SMP box Message-ID: <20010615105829.A10966@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20010615134934.A452@mordor.admiral.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010615134934.A452@mordor.admiral.ru>; from igor@mordor.admiral.ru on Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 01:49:34PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 01:49:34PM +0400, Igor Robul wrote: > %top > top: nlist failed > % > This looks like kernel/userland out-of-sync, but they are in sync :-) > I don't have this problem on UP systems with same -STABLE This can also happen if you have old bootblocks (from around 4.0 I think). David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 4:32:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from maile.telia.com (maile.telia.com [194.22.190.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926FD37B40D for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 04:31:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by maile.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5FBVq416454 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:31:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA13534 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:31:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 10192 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Jun 2001 11:31:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:31:27 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: igorr@admiral.ru Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top does not work on P-1 SMP box Message-ID: <20010615133127.A10149@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: igorr@admiral.ru, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010615134934.A452@mordor.admiral.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010615134934.A452@mordor.admiral.ru>; from igor@mordor.admiral.ru on Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 01:49:34PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 01:49:34PM +0400, Igor Robul wrote: > Hello, > I have one dual Pentium-1 box with FreeBSD-STABLE. "top" fails on it: > %uname -a > FreeBSD hosting.admiral.ru 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #1: Thu Jun > 14 17:20:16 MSD 2001 > igor@hosting.admiral.ru:/opt/obj/usr/src/sys/HOSTING i386 > %top > top: nlist failed > % > This looks like kernel/userland out-of-sync, but they are in sync :-) > I don't have this problem on UP systems with same -STABLE > You probably don't use /boot/loader to load the kernel See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#NLIST-FAILED (You did look in the FAQ first, right? :-) ) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 5:59:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melchior.enst.fr [137.194.161.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8407F37B405 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 05:59:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org) Received: from melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melusine.enst.fr [137.194.160.34]) by melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610687D6A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:59:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: by melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CE54B24D02; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:59:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:59:09 +0200 From: Thomas Quinot To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Recompiling -stable sysinstall Message-ID: <20010615145909.A48238@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Reply-To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Trying to resolve a sysinstall problem (PR kern/24596), I endeavoured to recompile sysinstall. My source tree was cvsupped yesterday, and I have made a buildworld and buildkernel, but not installworld yet. Sysinstall failed to compile, because its Makefile assumes that the installed syscons keymaps match the source tree version (which was not the case because my previous make world did not include the Ukrainian keymaps). I do not know whether sysinstall should be comilable when world has been built but not yet installed. If so the following patch resolves this problem (it uses the source tree keymaps instead of the installed ones): --- release/sysinstall/Makefile.dist Thu Jun 14 21:55:05 2001 +++ release/sysinstall/Makefile Fri Jun 15 14:52:04 2001 @@ -87,7 +87,8 @@ keymap.h: rm -f keymap.tmp for map in ${KEYMAPS} ; do \ - kbdcontrol -L $$map | \ + (cd ${.CURDIR}/../../share/syscons/keymaps; \ + kbdcontrol -L $$map) | \ sed -e '/^static accentmap_t/,$$d' >> keymap.tmp ; \ done echo "static struct keymapInfo keymapInfos[] = {" >> keymap.tmp -- Thomas.Quinot@Cuivre.FR.EU.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 7:16: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F3937B407 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:16:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from sexta.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.16.13] ident=exim) by cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15AuOF-00044x-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:15:59 +0300 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sexta.cs.huji.ac.il ident=danny) by sexta.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 15AuOE-0007PO-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:15:58 +0300 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-0.24 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: interrupted syscall Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:15:57 +0300 From: Danny Braniss Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG while doing something like 'tar xfz /net/host/var/tmp/xyz' host 'host' crashed (with a little help from me :-), i was upset, because i was waiting for the tar to finish, but then i remembered i was using nfs, and all i had to do is wait for 'host' to come back, but tar gave 'interrupted syscall' :-( is this a new feature or a bug? danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 7:38:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [209.16.107.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4490B37B401 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5FEcKE94116 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:38:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:38:20 -0400 From: Jamie Norwood To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel compilation Message-ID: <20010615103820.A94093@mushhaven.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a way to get the kernel to NOT build every module under the sun? I prefer my kernels to have in them just what I want them to, not what something else decides should be there. Yet every kernel I build makes modules for things like USB, Sound, NICs I don't have... This is annoying because, for one thing, it slows down compiles immensely. Secondly, it is, theoretically, possible that some of these things (USB, for example), may actually exist, thus be installed, and if they have a security problem, I would be vulnerable with smoething I didn't want in the first place! Any suggestions? Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 7:41: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lx.vei.ru (lx.vei.ru [195.19.31.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59A2B37B412 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:40:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lexxa@vei.ru) Received: (qmail 1700 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2001 13:47:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lexxa.vei.ru) (192.168.83.3) by lx.vei.ru with SMTP; 15 Jun 2001 13:47:44 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:43:01 -0700 From: Andrey Alexeev X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal Reply-To: Andrey Alexeev X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <96505140.20010615184301@vei.ru> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: it's correct ? [setenv ftp_proxy http://proxy.mydomain.com:3128/] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I set variables: setenv ftp_proxy http://proxy.mydomain.com:3128/ setenv http_proxy http://proxy.mydomain.com:3128/ but ftp(1) don't connect via proxy (squid) to any ftp hosts FreeBSD 4.2R -- Best regards, Andrey mailto:lexxa@vei.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 7:46:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E5937B40B for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:46:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5FEk4H84643; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:46:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:46:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Jamie Norwood Cc: Subject: Re: Kernel compilation In-Reply-To: <20010615103820.A94093@mushhaven.net> Message-ID: <20010615104157.S84422-100000@turtle.looksharp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Jamie Norwood wrote: >Is there a way to get the kernel to NOT build every module under the sun? >I prefer my kernels to have in them just what I want them to, not what >something else decides should be there. Yet every kernel I build makes >modules for things like USB, Sound, NICs I don't have... This is annoying >because, for one thing, it slows down compiles immensely. Secondly, it >is, theoretically, possible that some of these things (USB, for example), >may actually exist, thus be installed, and if they have a security problem, >I would be vulnerable with smoething I didn't want in the first place! Your logic is a little flawed. Those modules are simply built and placed in /modules for future use. They are not by any means built into the kernel and they don't slow the kernel down any. They also are not a security hazard. If you don't insert the module, it is not running. They don't insert themselves into the kernel. >Any suggestions? Yeah, check out the /etc/make.conf and /etc/defaults/make.conf files. Setting NO_MODULES = true in the /etc/make.conf file will make sure that the modules are not built at all, either will world or kernel. There are other MODULES related options to check out as well. However, remember that many things like linux emulation are normally used as kernel modules under FreeBSD and if you don't explicitly build them into your monolithic kernel you won't be able to use them. Also remember if you're gonna turn off module building that you remove the /modules directory so you don't end up accidentally using old modules with your new monolithic kernel. -- Brandon D. Valentine The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering. - Doctor Who, "Face of Evil" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 7:46:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rafiu.psi-domain.co.uk (rafiu.psi-domain.co.uk [212.87.84.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0E937B409 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:46:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamie@psi-domain.co.uk) Received: by rafiu.psi-domain.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4ABDF402E17; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:41:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: Kernel compilation In-Reply-To: <20010615103820.A94093@mushhaven.net> "from Jamie Norwood at Jun 15, 2001 10:38:20 am" To: Jamie Norwood Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:41:57 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20010615144157.4ABDF402E17@rafiu.psi-domain.co.uk> From: jamie@psi-domain.co.uk (Jamie Heckford) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > may actually exist, thus be installed, and if they have a security problem, > I would be vulnerable with smoething I didn't want in the first place! If kernel modules can only be loaded by root, say linux.ko had a security flaw in it, and you weren't loading it anyway, is it possible for a security vunerbility to be exploited ???? Sorry if im being thick, but I am intrigued. Jamie (H) > > Any suggestions? > > Jamie > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 7:51:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [209.16.107.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321DB37B405 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:51:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5FEpAP94246; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:51:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:51:10 -0400 From: Jamie Norwood To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel compilation Message-ID: <20010615105110.A94222@mushhaven.net> References: <20010615103820.A94093@mushhaven.net> <20010615104157.S84422-100000@turtle.looksharp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010615104157.S84422-100000@turtle.looksharp.net>; from bandix@looksharp.net on Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:46:04AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:46:04AM -0400, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > Your logic is a little flawed. Those modules are simply built and > placed in /modules for future use. They are not by any means built into > the kernel and they don't slow the kernel down any. They also are not a > security hazard. If you don't insert the module, it is not running. > They don't insert themselves into the kernel. I find this to be untrue. For instance, my kernel config does not have entries for USB. Yet when the machine last booted, it very definately loaded USB drivers and probed those ports. (I can't quote dmesg due to stupid arp messages that there is nothing I can do about.) > > >Any suggestions? > > Yeah, check out the /etc/make.conf and /etc/defaults/make.conf files. > Setting NO_MODULES = true in the /etc/make.conf file will make sure that > the modules are not built at all, either will world or kernel. There > are other MODULES related options to check out as well. However, > remember that many things like linux emulation are normally used as > kernel modules under FreeBSD and if you don't explicitly build them into > your monolithic kernel you won't be able to use them. Also remember if > you're gonna turn off module building that you remove the /modules > directory so you don't end up accidentally using old modules with your > new monolithic kernel. This is the performance I want. What this machine needs it's in it's config file. It is a static machine that does not arbitrarily need things loaded/ unloaded. Thank you for the pointer. Jamie > > -- > Brandon D. Valentine > > The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead > of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit > their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one > of the facts that needs altering. > - Doctor Who, "Face of Evil" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 8:47:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.squidge.com (ns1.squidge.com [195.10.252.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FB037B405 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:46:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stewart@nameless-uk.com) Received: from apollo (host217-32-126-252.hg.mdip.bt.net [217.32.126.252]) (authenticated) by mail.squidge.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5FFklk30743 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:46:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from stewart@nameless-uk.com) Reply-To: From: "Stewart Morgan" To: Subject: Panic in ffs? Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:47:03 +0100 Organization: Nameless-UK Message-ID: <005901c0f5b2$6f54dbf0$0b01000a@apollo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01C0F5BA.D11943F0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2605 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C0F5BA.D11943F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I'm running -stable, cvsup'd as of yesterday (14/06/01). I've just set up a RAID-5 array using vinum on 40GB IDE drives. All went well until I tried copying data to the drive from a sharity-light mount at which point, the system panic'd! I managed to get a dump (see below), but interestingly savecore'ing to a different drive (a SCSI Seagate drive) also panic'd the machine -- kernel.GENERIC has, so far, picked the dumps up no problem, but my custom kernel get's oh-so-close :( I remember reading a past thread; I've got two fxp's and an on-board AIC-7895, so I wondered if this might have something to do with it? Of the dumps that I've managed to recover, all of them seem to falter at ffs_blkpref, hence the subject. Please find attached a trace, dmesg, and kernel config file. I have the vmcore file(s) available, but ask if there's anything else you need and I'll see what I can do... Stewart. -- Stewart Morgan MEng AMIEEE Technical Director, Nameless-UK T: +44 870 757 1625 | A: The Production House F: +44 870 168 0210 | 147a St. Michael's Hill E: stewart@nameless-uk.com | Bristol W: www.nameless-uk.com | BS2 8DB ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C0F5BA.D11943F0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="trace.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="trace.txt" GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... IdlePTD 5681152 initial pcb at 4036e0 panicstr: from debugger panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x4a fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc02ad93b stack pointer = 0x10:0xca2d0d14 frame pointer = 0x10:0xca2d0d34 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 356 (pax) interrupt mask = none panic: from debugger panic: from debugger Uptime: 4m55s dumping to dev #da/0x20001, offset 1310976 dump 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 10 3 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 --- #0 0xc01ad42e in dumpsys () .gdbinit:4: Error in sourced command file: Attempt to extract a component of a value that is not a structure. (kgdb) bt #0 0xc01ad42e in dumpsys () #1 0xc01ad0b2 in boot () #2 0xc01ad5e9 in panic () #3 0xc01568f5 in db_panic () #4 0xc0156896 in db_command () #5 0xc015695a in db_command_loop () #6 0xc01598f3 in db_trap () #7 0xc03387dc in kdb_trap () #8 0xc0348548 in trap_fatal () #9 0xc0348209 in trap_pfault () #10 0xc0347d6f in trap () #11 0xc02ad93b in ffs_blkpref () #12 0xc02b09aa in ffs_balloc () #13 0xc02bc4f2 in ffs_write () #14 0xc01f0932 in vn_write () #15 0xc01c0688 in dofilewrite () #16 0xc01c0577 in write () #17 0xc034877a in syscall2 () #18 0xc0339245 in Xint0x80_syscall () #19 0x804c0b3 in ?? () #20 0x804abc9 in ?? () #21 0x8052d65 in ?? () #22 0x80481e2 in ?? 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port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2=0A= device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0=0A= =0A= =0A= #########################################################################= ##############=0A= # IDE stuff...=0A= #########################################################################= ##############=0A= #=0A= options ATA_STATIC_ID=0A= device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14=0A= device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15=0A= device ata=0A= device atadisk # ATA disk drives=0A= =0A= =0A= #########################################################################= ##############=0A= # SCSI stuff...=0A= #########################################################################= ##############=0A= #=0A= options SCSI_DELAY=3D8000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device=0A= options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO=0A= device ahc=0A= device scbus=0A= device da=0A= device sa=0A= device cd=0A= device pass=0A= =0A= =0A= #########################################################################= ##############=0A= # Console etc...=0A= #########################################################################= ##############=0A= #=0A= makeoptions ATKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP=3Duk.iso.kbd=0A= options UCONSOLE=0A= options ATKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP=0A= options SC_NORM_ATTR=3D"(FG_YELLOW|BG_BLACK)"=0A= options SC_NORM_REV_ATTR=3D"(FG_BLACK|BG_LIGHTGREY)"=0A= options SC_KERNEL_CONS_ATTR=3D"(FG_LIGHTRED|BG_BLACK)"=0A= options SC_KERNEL_CONS_REV_ATTR=3D"(FG_BLACK|BG_RED)"=0A= options SC_NO_CUTPASTE=0A= options SC_NO_SYSMOUSE=0A= options SC_HISTORY_SIZE=3D4096=0A= #options SC_PIXEL_MODE=0A= options VESA=0A= options XSERVER # support for X server=0A= options MSGBUF_SIZE=3D40960=0A= =0A= device atkbdc0 at isa? 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All rights reserved.=0A= FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #9: Fri Jun 15 11:30:25 GMT 2001=0A= root@laxmi.bristol.squidge.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/LAXMI=0A= Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193077 Hz=0A= CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (400.87-MHz 686-class CPU)=0A= Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x665 Stepping =3D 5=0A= = Features=3D0x183fbff=0A= real memory =3D 134086656 (130944K bytes)=0A= sio0: gdb debugging port=0A= avail memory =3D 125460480 (122520K bytes)=0A= Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0431000.=0A= ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers=0A= VESA: v2.0, 4096k memory, flags:0x1, mode table:0xc03bcda2 (1000022)=0A= VESA: Cirrus Logic GD-546X VGA=0A= Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled=0A= apm0: on motherboard=0A= apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2=0A= npx0: on motherboard=0A= npx0: INT 16 interface=0A= pcib0: on motherboard=0A= pci0: on pcib0=0A= pcib1: at device 1.0 on = pci0=0A= pci1: on pcib1=0A= pci1: at 0.0 irq 10=0A= isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0=0A= isa0: on isab0=0A= atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1 = on pci0=0A= ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0=0A= ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0=0A= uhci0: at device 7.2 on pci0=0A= uhci0: Invalid irq 255=0A= uhci0: Please switch on USB support and switch PNP-OS to 'No' in BIOS=0A= device_probe_and_attach: uhci0 attach returned 6=0A= intpm0: port 0x440-0x44f irq = 9 at device 7.3 on pci0=0A= intpm0: I/O mapped 440=0A= intpm0: intr IRQ 9 enabled revision 0=0A= smbus0: on intsmb0=0A= smb0: on smbus0=0A= intpm0: PM I/O mapped 400 =0A= pcib2: at device 16.0 on pci0=0A= pci2: on pcib2=0A= fxp0: port 0xdf00-0xdf3f mem = 0xfe900000-0xfe9fffff,0xfeaff000-0xfeafffff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci2=0A= fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:2a:1d:82=0A= inphy0: on miibus0=0A= inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto=0A= fxp1: port 0xdf80-0xdf9f mem = 0xfe700000-0xfe7fffff,0xff1ff000-0xff1fffff irq 9 at device 6.0 on pci2=0A= fxp1: Ethernet address 00:90:27:34:25:b1=0A= inphy1: on miibus1=0A= inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto=0A= ahc0: port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem = 0xfebfe000-0xfebfefff irq 10 at device 18.0 on pci0=0A= aic7895C: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=3D7, 32/255 SCBs=0A= ahc1: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem = 0xfebff000-0xfebfffff irq 10 at device 18.1 on pci0=0A= aic7895C: Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=3D7, 32/255 SCBs=0A= fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0=0A= fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold=0A= fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0=0A= atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0=0A= atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0=0A= vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0=0A= sc0: at flags 0x80 on isa0=0A= sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x280>=0A= sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x91 on isa0=0A= sio0: type 16550A=0A= sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0=0A= sio1: type 16550A=0A= ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0=0A= ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode=0A= ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold=0A= lpt0: on ppbus0=0A= lpt0: Interrupt-driven port=0A= IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, logging limited to = 100 packets/entry=0A= IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding = enabled, default to accept, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by = default=0A= IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing.=0A= IP Filter: v3.4.16 initialized. Default =3D pass all, Logging =3D = enabled=0A= ad0: 39266MB [79780/16/63] at ata0-master tagged UDMA33=0A= ad2: 39266MB [79780/16/63] at ata1-master tagged UDMA33=0A= ad3: 39266MB [79780/16/63] at ata1-slave tagged UDMA33=0A= Waiting 8 seconds for SCSI devices to settle=0A= sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0=0A= sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 = device =0A= sa0: 5.000MB/s transfers (5.000MHz, offset 8)=0A= da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0=0A= da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device =0A= da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing = Enabled=0A= da0: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C)=0A= Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a=0A= ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C0F5BA.D11943F0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 9: 7: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shumai.marcuscom.com (rdu26-228-058.nc.rr.com [66.26.228.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101EF37B406 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:06:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from localhost (marcus@localhost) by shumai.marcuscom.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5FG76M09393; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:07:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shumai.marcuscom.com: marcus owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:07:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Clarke To: Jamie Norwood Cc: "Brandon D. Valentine" , Subject: Re: Kernel compilation In-Reply-To: <20010615105110.A94222@mushhaven.net> Message-ID: <20010615120526.C9358-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The fact that your kernel loaded the usb modules might be due to the fact that you have: usbd_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf. I don't know this for certain as all my machines have USB, and I compile USB into the kernel. Joe Clarke On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Jamie Norwood wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:46:04AM -0400, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > > Your logic is a little flawed. Those modules are simply built and > > placed in /modules for future use. They are not by any means built into > > the kernel and they don't slow the kernel down any. They also are not a > > security hazard. If you don't insert the module, it is not running. > > They don't insert themselves into the kernel. > > I find this to be untrue. For instance, my kernel config does not have > entries for USB. Yet when the machine last booted, it very definately > loaded USB drivers and probed those ports. (I can't quote dmesg due to > stupid arp messages that there is nothing I can do about.) > > > > > >Any suggestions? > > > > Yeah, check out the /etc/make.conf and /etc/defaults/make.conf files. > > Setting NO_MODULES = true in the /etc/make.conf file will make sure that > > the modules are not built at all, either will world or kernel. There > > are other MODULES related options to check out as well. However, > > remember that many things like linux emulation are normally used as > > kernel modules under FreeBSD and if you don't explicitly build them into > > your monolithic kernel you won't be able to use them. Also remember if > > you're gonna turn off module building that you remove the /modules > > directory so you don't end up accidentally using old modules with your > > new monolithic kernel. > > This is the performance I want. What this machine needs it's in it's config > file. It is a static machine that does not arbitrarily need things loaded/ > unloaded. Thank you for the pointer. > > Jamie > > > > > -- > > Brandon D. Valentine > > > > The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead > > of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit > > their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one > > of the facts that needs altering. > > - Doctor Who, "Face of Evil" > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 9:13:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from copper.eng.cstone.net (copper.eng.cstone.net [209.145.66.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D9237B403 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:13:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from josepht@cstone.net) Received: from cstone.net (copper.eng.cstone.net [209.145.66.29]) by copper.eng.cstone.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5FGD6651457; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:13:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from josepht@cstone.net) Message-ID: <3B2A3412.86F1ECBB@cstone.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:13:06 -0400 From: Joe Talbott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Clarke Cc: Jamie Norwood , "Brandon D. Valentine" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel compilation References: <20010615120526.C9358-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe Clarke wrote: > > The fact that your kernel loaded the usb modules might be due to the fact > that you have: > > usbd_enable="YES" > > in /etc/rc.conf. I don't know this for certain as all my machines have > USB, and I compile USB into the kernel. > > Joe Clarke > also without 'options CD9660' in the kernel, mounting a cd-rom will load cd9660.ko Joe -- J o e T a l b o t t | +------------+ System Administrator - Cornerstone Networks | | THIS SPACE | An Ntelos Communications Company | | FOR RENT | | +------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 9:19:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C6C37B401 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f5FGJ0c24289; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106151619.f5FGJ0c24289@ptavv.es.net> To: ericg@chartertn.net Cc: Andrew Hesford , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0 & intel 810 graphics In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:38:52 EDT." <3B294B0C.2284.1706A1AF@localhost> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:19:00 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: "Eric Olsen" > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:38:52 -0400 > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Thanks for the quick reply, Andrew. > > I'll give that a try. I haven't used cvs before, so I get the chance to > learn many new things :-) Learning to use cvsup is not using cvs (at least not directly). cvsup is a separate port. The handbook discusses it in pretty good detail. The one common oops is that ports are not tagged from different branches of the tree. For getting ports, always use "tag=.". The system includes sample supfiles for stable and ports in /usr/share/examples/cvsup. You should edit the example of your choice with the closest cvsup mirror for you location. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 9:27:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp.wanadoo.nl [194.134.193.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C3B37B407 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:27:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p1359.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.170.84]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5FGRYb09818; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:27:34 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:27:22 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" Cc: ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD - Linux curiosity Message-Id: <20010615182722.72b5118d.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: <20010613183312.E6788@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20010612210644.03238a25.steveo@eircom.net> <20010612213002.782e83df.steveo@eircom.net> <20010613183312.E6788@mail.webmonster.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:33:12 +0200 "Karsten W. Rohrbach" wrote: KR> Steve O'Hara-Smith(steveo@eircom.net)@2001.06.12 21:30:02 +0000: KR> > OK, try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0c bs=1024k count=1. If that doesn't KR> > wipe all traces I don't know what will :) KR> KR> omit the "count=1" and kill the whole disk, maybe the raid firmware has KR> a serious bug ;-) A stray thought, anti-virus write protection problem ? KR> > Great Lover, n.: A man who can breathe through his ears. Hmm, I once knew a woman who would have suffocated him :) -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 9:44:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C19437B401 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:44:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5FGhxp34110 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:43:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:43:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes To: Subject: After upgraded, Neomail doesnt work Message-ID: <20010615114312.K34069-100000@awww.jeah.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG An associate of mine recently upgraded from 4.3-RELEASE to -STABLE, build from last night, and all of a sudden Neomail and Webmin don't work. They both the MD5 digest of Perl. It doesn't look like anything perl-wise was messed with in the upgrade, because he had NOPERL=true in /etc/make.conf. Can anyone shine some light on this? Chris Byrnes JEAH Communications, LLC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 10:16:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706ED37B406 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:16:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5FGjQo34202 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:45:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:45:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes To: Subject: RE: After upgraded.. Message-ID: <20010615114427.U34141-100000@awww.jeah.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I should probably clarify what "don't work" means.. It's saying 'invalid password' when you try to login now. Chris Byrnes JEAH Communications, LLC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 12:40:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CC737B405 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:40:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5FJojT01060; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:50:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200106151950.f5FJojT01060@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Jamie Norwood Cc: "Brandon D. Valentine" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel compilation In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:51:10 EDT." <20010615105110.A94222@mushhaven.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:50:45 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:46:04AM -0400, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > > Your logic is a little flawed. Those modules are simply built and > > placed in /modules for future use. They are not by any means built into > > the kernel and they don't slow the kernel down any. They also are not a > > security hazard. If you don't insert the module, it is not running. > > They don't insert themselves into the kernel. > > I find this to be untrue. For instance, my kernel config does not have > entries for USB. Yet when the machine last booted, it very definately > loaded USB drivers and probed those ports. (I can't quote dmesg due to > stupid arp messages that there is nothing I can do about.) This is because you've enabled usbd. Turn it off on /etc/rc.conf. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 14:31:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sun.zoology.ubc.ca (sun.zoology.ubc.ca [137.82.3.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F93337B401 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:31:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jens@zoology.ubc.ca) Received: from [137.82.3.64] (tigger.zoology.ubc.ca [137.82.3.64]) by sun.zoology.ubc.ca (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA04438 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jens@mailhost.zoology.ubc.ca Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:32:03 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jens Haeusser Subject: Benchmarking CVSup Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Do any of you have any fancy tricks/shell scripts/whatnot for benchmarking the various CVSup sites? My simple ping and ftp tests don't seem to reflect the actual speed of a CVSup session on that host. Jens Haeusser Network Manager Zoology, UBC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 14:32:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7864437B403 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:32:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [216.194.193.106]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0122E461 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5FLWRV33535; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:32:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15146.32491.443330.764581@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:32:27 -0400 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: shutdown not completing X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have some 4.3-STABLE boxes that sometimes fail to shutdown properly. The uname -a date is "4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Mon May 14 16:37:38 EDT 2001" on one of them, for example. These are Dell PowerEdge 1550 boxes connected to a Cyclades terminal server for the serial consoles. The BIOS on these boxes is redirected to the serial console as well, but that doesn't seem to be the issue. What happens is I login via the serial console as myself. Then I su to root and issue a "shutdown now". All processes get killed it seems, and all services go away (nmap shows no open ports, but ping answers on both ethernets). The console then just sits there. I never get the "flushing buffers" messages, nor do I get a prompt for entering the password to enter single user mode. The only time I really ever do this is when upgrading the system, so perhaps it has something to do with installing a new kernel just before the shutdown. I don't have evidence that this is the cause, however, since it doesn't happen every time (I've only ever upgraded about 4 times, mostly from going from 4.3-RC2 to RC3 to STABLE, and now to a more recent STABLE just ready to make the servers into full production mode). Anyone else experience this? I'm kinda feeling like I shouldn't be logged into the console when I shutdown, as that seems to reduce the likelihood of such a crash. The dmesg output on a twin machine is this (I'm waiting for the datacenter to reset the hung machine right now...) Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Mon May 14 16:37:38 EDT 2001 vivek@w01.m1e.net:/n/lorax1/usr/obj/n/lorax1/usr/src/sys/M01 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (860.89-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x387fbff real memory = 536805376 (524224K bytes) avail memory = 519901184 (507716K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02d1000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib1: on motherboard pci1: on pcib1 pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 fxp0: port 0xecc0-0xecff mem 0xfe100000-0xfe1fffff,0xfe2ff000-0xfe2fffff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:b0:d0:e1:35:02 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp1: port 0xec80-0xecbf mem 0xfe000000-0xfe0fffff,0xfe2fe000-0xfe2fefff irq 10 at device 2.0 on pci0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:b0:d0:e1:35:03 inphy1: on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: at 3.0 isab0: at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x8b0-0x8bf at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 pcib2: on motherboard pci2: on pcib2 ahc0: port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xfeaff000-0xfeafffff irq 5 at device 5.0 on pci2 aic7899: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xfeafe000-0xfeafefff irq 3 at device 5.1 on pci2 aic7899: Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc2: port 0xd400-0xd4ff mem 0xfeafd000-0xfeafdfff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci2 aic7890/91: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs pcib3: on motherboard pci3: on pcib3 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3b0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to accept, unlimited logging acd0: CDROM at ata0-master using PIO4 Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a da1 at ahc2 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 511MB (1048320 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 511C) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8683MB (17783239 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 15:21:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from steeltoe.niceboots.com (steeltoe.niceboots.com [208.25.85.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178FF37B403 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:21:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tenebrae@niceboots.com) Received: from localhost (tenebrae@localhost) by steeltoe.niceboots.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5FMLlB82732; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:21:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Tenebrae To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shutdown not completing In-Reply-To: <15146.32491.443330.764581@onceler.kciLink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Vivek Khera wrote: > I have some 4.3-STABLE boxes that sometimes fail to shutdown > properly. The uname -a date is "4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Mon > May 14 16:37:38 EDT 2001" on one of them, for example. > > These are Dell PowerEdge 1550 boxes connected to a Cyclades terminal > server for the serial consoles. The BIOS on these boxes is redirected > to the serial console as well, but that doesn't seem to be the issue. > > What happens is I login via the serial console as myself. Then I su > to root and issue a "shutdown now". All processes get killed it > seems, and all services go away (nmap shows no open ports, but ping > answers on both ethernets). The console then just sits there. I > never get the "flushing buffers" messages, nor do I get a prompt for > entering the password to enter single user mode. Try shutdown -h now instead. -h is for halt. (man shutdown) -Tenebrae. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 15:23:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8CF37B403 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:23:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [216.194.193.106]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA592E45F; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5FMNUK15443; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:23:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15146.35553.917898.825469@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:23:29 -0400 To: Tenebrae Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shutdown not completing In-Reply-To: References: <15146.32491.443330.764581@onceler.kciLink.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "t" == tenebrae writes: >> answers on both ethernets). The console then just sits there. I >> never get the "flushing buffers" messages, nor do I get a prompt for >> entering the password to enter single user mode. t> Try shutdown -h now instead. t> -h is for halt. t> (man shutdown) Yes, but I want to go to single user mode to do make installworld. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 15:35:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from steeltoe.niceboots.com (steeltoe.niceboots.com [208.25.85.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E6B37B403 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tenebrae@niceboots.com) Received: from localhost (tenebrae@localhost) by steeltoe.niceboots.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5FMZFK82821; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:35:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Tenebrae To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shutdown not completing In-Reply-To: <15146.35553.917898.825469@onceler.kciLink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "t" == tenebrae writes: > > >> answers on both ethernets). The console then just sits there. I > >> never get the "flushing buffers" messages, nor do I get a prompt for > >> entering the password to enter single user mode. > > t> Try shutdown -h now instead. > t> -h is for halt. > t> (man shutdown) > > Yes, but I want to go to single user mode to do make installworld. They try shutdown -r now (-r to reboot). There should be a point when you reboot where it will go through the normal bios stuff, then pause for a few seconds and prompt you to his Return to boot normally, or any other key to do the funky single-user stuff. I believe if you hit space or something to interrupt, it will come up with a boot: prompt where you can tell it /kernel -s (-s for single user mode). I've only done this part once, so it's not that clear in my mind. One of the good people on the list will surely correct me and steer you in the right direction. -Tenebrae. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 15:46:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov (gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.4.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D879F37B406; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:46:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsowders@usgs.gov) To: Vivek Khera Cc: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Tenebrae Subject: Re: shutdown not completing MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Robert L Sowders" Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:45:58 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on gscamnlm03/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 06/15/2001 03:46:23 PM, Serialize complete at 06/15/2001 03:46:23 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the same problem, I think I was at single user mode, but the file systems were still mounted and I was still on the network. Just could not login from anywhere but the console. Looks like single user mode to me. Vivek Khera Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG 06/15/2001 03:23 PM To: Tenebrae cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shutdown not completing >>>>> "t" == tenebrae writes: >> answers on both ethernets). The console then just sits there. I >> never get the "flushing buffers" messages, nor do I get a prompt for >> entering the password to enter single user mode. t> Try shutdown -h now instead. t> -h is for halt. t> (man shutdown) Yes, but I want to go to single user mode to do make installworld. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 15:48:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF0B37B401; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:48:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5FMwuT03067; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:58:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200106152258.f5FMwuT03067@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Robert L Sowders" Cc: Vivek Khera , owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Tenebrae Subject: Re: shutdown not completing In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:45:58 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:58:56 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Yes, but I want to go to single user mode to do make installworld. This is not necessary. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 15:51:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pt-quorum.com (pt-quorum.com [209.10.167.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48A037B405 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:51:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nuno.teixeira@pt-quorum.com) Received: from p208-237.netc.pt ([213.30.47.208]) by pt-quorum.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA05342 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:44:34 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:54:05 +0100 (WEST) From: Nuno Teixeira To: Subject: cvsup doc_all: en_US.ISO_8859-1 or en_US.ISO8859-1? Message-ID: <20010615234648.M345-100000@gateway.bogus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello to all, I'm tracking the docs en_US.ISO_8859-1 for some time with cvsup. The first time that I track docs, the cvsup create a en_US.ISO_8859-1 directory. When I cvsup the docs in the last days I noted that the cvsup download the same files again with another name: en_US.ISO8859-1 (without "_"). I looked at the several mailing lists and I see nothing about this change. My doubt is related to the "make.conf" because it refers "DOC_LANG= en_US.ISO_8859-1" and not "DOC_LANG= en_US.ISO8859-1" Thanks in advance, - -- Nuno Teixeira Dir. Técnico pt-quorum.com - -- PGP Pwublic Key: http://www.pt-quorum.com/pgp/nunoteixeira.asc Key fingerprint: 8C2C B364 D4DC 0C92 56F5 CE6F 8F07 720A 63A0 4FC7 - -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQE7KpIVjwdyCmOgT8cRAnV7AJ94RI3fbSoPousRit/KRWWSdEsBZgCfdPRP PzztjTekPs6sS/1uDLBzP50= =5Shm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 16: 9:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F4237B403 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:09:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A5936DB01C4; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:09:07 -0700 Message-ID: <3B2A9593.80F469FB@urx.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:09:07 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nuno Teixeira Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup doc_all: en_US.ISO_8859-1 or en_US.ISO8859-1? References: <20010615234648.M345-100000@gateway.bogus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nuno Teixeira wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello to all, > > I'm tracking the docs en_US.ISO_8859-1 for some time with cvsup. The first > time that I track docs, the cvsup create a en_US.ISO_8859-1 directory. > When I cvsup the docs in the last days I noted that the cvsup download the > same files again with another name: en_US.ISO8859-1 (without "_"). > > I looked at the several mailing lists and I see nothing about this change. > > My doubt is related to the "make.conf" because it refers "DOC_LANG= > en_US.ISO_8859-1" and not "DOC_LANG= en_US.ISO8859-1" There was a name change and a lot of fall out occured. You need to set the env's to ISO8859-1 from what I have encountered. If you created a link on your desktop, you will have to create a new one. Otherwise you recieve a comment about access priviledges, which really means the files don't exist anymore. Kent > > Thanks in advance, > > - -- > Nuno Teixeira > Dir. Técnico > pt-quorum.com > - -- > PGP Pwublic Key: > http://www.pt-quorum.com/pgp/nunoteixeira.asc > Key fingerprint: > 8C2C B364 D4DC 0C92 56F5 CE6F 8F07 720A 63A0 4FC7 > - -- > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 > > iD8DBQE7KpIVjwdyCmOgT8cRAnV7AJ94RI3fbSoPousRit/KRWWSdEsBZgCfdPRP > PzztjTekPs6sS/1uDLBzP50= > =5Shm > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 16:41:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melchior.enst.fr [137.194.161.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBE037B405; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:41:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org) Received: from melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melusine.enst.fr [137.194.160.34]) by melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766F282B3; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:41:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B421324D18; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:41:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:41:10 +0200 From: Thomas Quinot To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/24596: sysinstall crash: Page fault while in kernel mode Message-ID: <20010616014110.A1456@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Reply-To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After makeing kernel and world and recompiling sysinstall from a freshly-cvsupped source tree, I still get a panic right after the 'probing devices' message. Excerpts from kgdb session follow. If any other system information or any further forensics are necessary, please feel free to ask. :) I am very intrigued by this crash dump. Why dp can be NULL at this point is beyond my understanding. Thomas. Script started on Sat Jun 16 01:26:24 2001 $ uname -a FreeBSD melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #4: Fri Jun 15 01:25:04 CEST 2001 thomas@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MELUSINE i386 $ gdb -k /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MELUSINE/kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.0 GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... IdlePTD 4087808 initial pcb at 343a60 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0176cfa stack pointer = 0x10:0xc8fcad58 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc8fcad74 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 541 (sysinstall) interrupt mask = none trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... 53 3 1 done Uptime: 51s dumping to dev #ad/0x20009, offset 270360 dump ata0: resetting devices .. done 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 --- #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:472 472 if (dumping++) { (kgdb) bt #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:472 #1 0xc016d761 in boot (howto=256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:312 #2 0xc016daf9 in panic (fmt=0xc02ec7cf "page fault") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:559 #3 0xc02a4506 in trap_fatal (frame=0xc8fcad18, eva=0) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:951 #4 0xc02a41c5 in trap_pfault (frame=0xc8fcad18, usermode=0, eva=0) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:844 #5 0xc02a3d6b in trap (frame={tf_fs = -922353648, tf_es = -1070661616, tf_ds = -933822448, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = -1060864640, tf_ebp = -922964620, tf_isp = -922964668, tf_ebx = -1060872140, tf_edx = 1, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1072206598, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = -1060864640, tf_ss = 1}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:443 #6 0xc0176cfa in diskopen (dev=0xc0cb0580, oflags=1, devtype=8192, p=0xc857c040) at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c:189 #7 0xc01a4cd2 in spec_open (ap=0xc8fcadf4) at /usr/src/sys/miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:193 #8 0xc01a4bd9 in spec_vnoperate (ap=0xc8fcadf4) at /usr/src/sys/miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:119 #9 0xc023cf19 in ufs_vnoperatespec (ap=0xc8fcadf4) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2391 #10 0xc01a0a68 in vn_open (ndp=0xc8fcaec4, fmode=1, cmode=1164) at vnode_if.h:189 #11 0xc019c920 in open (p=0xc857c040, uap=0xc8fcaf80) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:995 #12 0xc02a47a6 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = -1077939732, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -1077943140, tf_isp = -922964012, tf_ebx = -1077939732, tf_edx = 110, tf_ecx = 135105439, tf_eax = 5, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134909580, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 643, tf_esp = -1077943264, tf_ss = 47}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1150 #13 0xc0296015 in Xint0x80_syscall () #14 0x804b29a in ?? () #15 0x80576c5 in ?? () #16 0x8048137 in ?? () (kgdb) fr 6 #6 0xc0176cfa in diskopen (dev=0xc0cb0580, oflags=1, devtype=8192, p=0xc857c040) at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c:189 189 error = dp->d_devsw->d_open(pdev, oflags, devtype, p); (kgdb) print dp $1 = (struct disk *) 0x0 (kgdb) print pdev $2 = 0xc0c47d80 (kgdb) print *pdev $3 = {si_flags = 0, si_udev = 69378, si_hash = {le_next = 0xc0342818, le_prev = 0xc0c48a88}, si_hlist = {slh_first = 0x0}, si_name = "cd0", '\000' , si_drv1 = 0x0, si_drv2 = 0x0, si_devsw = 0xc033e540, si_devfs = 0x0, si_bdevfs = 0x0, si_iosize_max = 65536, __si_u = {__si_tty = {__sit_tty = 0xc0c46034}, __si_disk = {__sid_disk = 0xc0c46034, __sid_mountpoint = 0x0, __sid_bsize_phys = 0, __sid_bsize_best = 0}}} (kgdb) print pdev->si_disk There is no member named si_disk. (kgdb) print pdev->__si_u.__si_disk.__sid_disk $4 = (struct disk *) 0xc0c46034 (kgdb) print pdev->si_iosize_max $5 = 65536 (kgdb) print pdev->__si_u.__si_disk.__sid_disk->d_slice $6 = (struct diskslices *) 0x0 (kgdb) print dp $7 = (struct disk *) 0x0 Script done on Sat Jun 16 01:33:30 2001 -- Thomas.Quinot@Cuivre.FR.EU.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 17:16:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.93.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E95737B405 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:16:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ianjhart@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk) Received: (from root@localhost) by pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5G0G2065557; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:16:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ianjhart@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from freeloader.freeserve.co.uk (alpha.private [192.168.0.2]) by pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.3/8.11.3av) with ESMTP id f5G0Fr665549; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:15:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ianjhart@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk) Message-ID: <3B2AA5BD.7F6B3590@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:18:05 +0100 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrey Alexeev Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: it's correct ? [setenv ftp_proxy http://proxy.mydomain.com:3128/] References: <96505140.20010615184301@vei.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrey Alexeev wrote: > > Hi ! > > I set variables: > > setenv ftp_proxy http://proxy.mydomain.com:3128/ > setenv http_proxy http://proxy.mydomain.com:3128/ > > but ftp(1) don't connect via proxy (squid) to any ftp hosts > > FreeBSD 4.2R > > > > -- > Best regards, > Andrey mailto:lexxa@vei.ru > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message This has come up before, but as the stable mailing list archive seems to be unavailable you wouldn't know that. Don't set FTP_PROXY. Set HTTP_PROXY something like this username:password@hostname.domain:port AFAIK you don't need the protocol part. -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 18: 4:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7134437B401 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:04:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA22481; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 21:04:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 21:04:09 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: Larry Rosenman Cc: Salvo Bartolotta , Mike Meyer , Kal Torak , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: STAROFFICE Broke? Message-ID: <20010615210409.A22459@blackhelicopters.org> References: <992556348.3b29353ca6fe1@webmail.neomedia.it> <20010614185051.A8100@lerami.lerctr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010614185051.A8100@lerami.lerctr.org>; from ler@lerctr.org on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 06:50:51PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the exact same problem in -current a few weeks ago. Uninstalling & reinstalling soffice fixed it for me. YMMV, of course. > > I last built bloat^WStaroffice on my home 'puter on March 13, 2001 (!). > This jives with what Mike Meyer said earlier in the thread. So it > broke between 10Jun2001 and yesterday around 17:00 UTC-0500. > > LER > -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 19:44:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9CF37B406 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:44:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA38707; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:44:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: ian j hart Cc: Andrey Alexeev , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: it's correct ? [setenv ftp_proxy http://proxy.mydomain.com:3128/] References: <96505140.20010615184301@vei.ru> <3B2AA5BD.7F6B3590@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jun 2001 04:44:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3B2AA5BD.7F6B3590@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ian j hart writes: > Andrey Alexeev wrote: > > setenv ftp_proxy http://proxy.mydomain.com:3128/ > > setenv http_proxy http://proxy.mydomain.com:3128/ The correct names for these variables are FTP_PROXY and HTTP_PROXY, respectively. > This has come up before, but as the stable mailing list archive seems to > be unavailable you wouldn't know that. > > Don't set FTP_PROXY. Set HTTP_PROXY something like this > > username:password@hostname.domain:port > > AFAIK you don't need the protocol part. Technically correct (though the preferred syntax is the one Andrey uses), but not much help, as Andrey's real problem is that libfetch in 4.2-RELEASE doesn't recognize the lower-case versions of the proxy variables; support for those was added on March 15 for compatibility with Lynx. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 22: 8:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE2437B407 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 22:08:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5G58v888295 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:08:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:08:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0_4 still broken? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Kenneth Mays wrote: > What I am asking for probably already exists but it was more to state that > when you get a certain application to successfully install on a release or > STABLE platform if it could be documented somewhere. > > Most of the time we install applications or hardware but don't always list > how we fixed an issue when we got something to work that didn't work > normally or install software that hit a quirk or two. Isn't that what send-pr is for? Include your patch in the PR and CC the maintainer. In the case of hardware, that's perhaps a different story, but you could file a PR with a documentation change, so that it would make it into either the FAQ or the handbook. At least that way, it would be trackable, and although it might take some time before your change gets incorporated, it's less likely to be lost outright. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 22:21:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885DB37B409 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 22:21:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5G5MH888337 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:22:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:22:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Benchmarking CVSup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Jens Haeusser wrote: > Do any of you have any fancy tricks/shell scripts/whatnot for > benchmarking the various CVSup sites? My simple ping and ftp tests > don't seem to reflect the actual speed of a CVSup session on that > host. Try traceroute(8) instead, and pick the one that's the fewest hops Here's a little script to work through them all. With a modicum of effort, it could be made to just print the hopcounts, but I wasn't that enthusiastic the night I wrote it. #!/bin/sh for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 do echo " " echo "==== trying cvsup${i}.freebsd.org ======" echo "traceroute cvsup${i}.freebsd.org" traceroute cvsup${i}.freebsd.org echo " " done 2>&1 | tee mirrors.out -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 22:26:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6570737B408 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 22:26:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5G5Rk888352 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:27:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:27:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: shutdown not completing In-Reply-To: <200106152258.f5FMwuT03067@mass.dis.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > > Yes, but I want to go to single user mode to do make installworld. > > This is not necessary. It's still in UPDATING. My sequence: make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel shutdown -r now At the pause before booting, I strike any key (except return) and then do: unload boot -s At single-user, make installworld mergemaster shutdown -r now It's less than an hour, end-to-end, now that I have a T-bird and DDR SDRAM. :-) The downside is that unless I remember to umount /usr before shutting down, I get a fatal trap 12 that complains about "page fault while in supervisor mode", and it's fsck city on the way back up. Thank goodness / is only 100MB. I keep meaning to transcribe all of the information and post it. If I'm not too bleary-eyed next time, I will. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 22:35:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bankrupt.com (cc508428-b.trntn1.nj.home.com [24.9.94.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 646B237B406 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 22:34:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mars@cannoncreek.com) Received: (qmail 25888 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2001 05:27:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hellraiser.cannoncreek.com) (202.78.79.4) by cc508428-b.trntn1.nj.home.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 2001 05:27:01 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Mars G Miro Reply-To: mars@cannoncreek.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: kernel: psmintr: out of sync (00c0 != 0000). Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:43:55 +0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Received: from the Dark Corners of Oblivion (172.16.1.254) X-Sender-Ip: 172.16.1.254 X-Copyright: Mars G. Miro MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061613435500.00595@hellraiser.cannoncreek.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, On RELENG_4_3, whenever I move the mouse too fast or whenever some sites are pestered with Javascripts my mouse (Under XWindows 4.0.3_3, KDE-2.1.1) gets haywired and I get this error: Jun 16 12:35:37 hellraiser /kernel: psm: status 20 02 64 Jun 16 12:35:37 hellraiser /kernel: psm: status 20 02 64 Jun 16 12:39:30 hellraiser /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (00c0 != 0000). Jun 16 12:39:30 hellraiser /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (00c0 != 0000). I can see that this might be related to psm.c but a quick look at cvsweb shows that RELENG_4 and RELENG_4_3 show that they have both the same version ov psm.c, which is: $FreeBSD: src/sys/isa/psm.c,v 1.23.2.4 2000/08/24 08:50:38 yokota Exp $ v1.34 says: - Add a hack for "psmintr: out of sync.." This is NOT a fix, but a hack! Add `flags 0x8000' to the psm driver to enable it. The psm driver will try to get out of out-of-sync situation by disabling the mouse and immediately enable it again. But it's still in -CURRENT If i get haywired again I'd try manually setting the flags via Userconfig. Any one else experiencing this problem? cheers mars To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 22:53:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.nc.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF79C37B401 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 22:53:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@nc.rr.com) Received: from tbird-850-win2k ([66.26.225.2]) by mail5.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:53:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:56:58 -0400 From: Neill Robins X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Personal Reply-To: Neill Robins X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <104704270617.20010616015658@nc.rr.com> To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: shutdown not completing In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Saturday, June 16, 2001, 1:27:46 AM, Chris BeHanna wrote: CB> On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Mike Smith wrote: >> > Yes, but I want to go to single user mode to do make installworld. >> >> This is not necessary. CB> It's still in UPDATING. I believe the reason for this is due to: 1) A multi-user system 2) You want as little precesses (daemons) running as possible Going to single user mode helps. It's obvious that during the process you don't want any files to be changed. -- Good Luck, -Neill freebsd@nc.rr.com CB> My sequence: CB> make buildworld CB> make buildkernel CB> make installkernel CB> shutdown -r now CB> At the pause before booting, I strike any key (except return) CB> and then do: CB> unload CB> boot -s CB> At single-user, CB> make installworld CB> mergemaster CB> shutdown -r now CB> It's less than an hour, end-to-end, now that I have a T-bird and DDR CB> SDRAM. :-) CB> The downside is that unless I remember to umount /usr before CB> shutting down, I get a fatal trap 12 that complains about "page fault CB> while in supervisor mode", and it's fsck city on the way back up. CB> Thank goodness / is only 100MB. CB> I keep meaning to transcribe all of the information and post it. CB> If I'm not too bleary-eyed next time, I will. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 23: 5:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web14707.mail.yahoo.com (web14707.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6686B37B401 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:05:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hackr_d@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010616060538.69356.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.67.120.228] by web14707.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:05:38 PDT Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:05:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Donn Miller Subject: Re: Benchmarking CVSup To: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Chris BeHanna wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Jens Haeusser wrote: > Here's a little script to work through them all. With a modicum of > effort, it could be made to just print the hopcounts, but I wasn't > that enthusiastic the night I wrote it. > > #!/bin/sh > > for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 Actually, it should go from 1->16. A more compact way to do it would be: i=0 while [ $i -le 16 ] ; do # traceroute cvsup$i.freebsd.org i=`expr $i + 1` done Thank god for Cygwin, or I wouldn't be able to test this. 8-( __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 23:29:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CE737B403 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:29:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net) Received: from smtp.bmi.net (dsl-154.bmi.net [207.173.60.230]) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA23287; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:29:25 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:29:23 -0700 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: Donn Miller Cc: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Benchmarking CVSup Message-ID: <20010615232923.K560@johncoop> References: <20010616060538.69356.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20010616060538.69356.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com>; from hackr_d@yahoo.com on Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 23:05:38 -0700 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.4 Lines: 31 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001.06.15 23:05 Donn Miller wrote: > > --- Chris BeHanna wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Jens Haeusser wrote: > > > Here's a little script to work through them all. With a modicum of > > effort, it could be made to just print the hopcounts, but I wasn't > > that enthusiastic the night I wrote it. > > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 > > Actually, it should go from 1->16. A more compact way to do it would > be: > > i=0 > while [ $i -le 16 ] ; do > # traceroute cvsup$i.freebsd.org > i=`expr $i + 1` > done > > Thank god for Cygwin, or I wouldn't be able to test this. 8-( > > There is no cvsup16.FreeBSD.org (or if there is, it's invisible to my ISP). Counting the lines in each traceroute output would give a good approximation of the number of hops . . . jmc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 23:33: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web14707.mail.yahoo.com (web14707.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A976537B40A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:32:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hackr_d@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010616063252.75528.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.67.120.228] by web14707.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:32:52 PDT Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:32:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Donn Miller Subject: Re: Benchmarking CVSup To: John Merryweather Cooper Cc: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable In-Reply-To: <20010615232923.K560@johncoop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- John Merryweather Cooper wrote: > There is no cvsup16.FreeBSD.org (or if there is, it's invisible to my > ISP). I am able to ping cvsup16: $ ping cvsup16.freebsd.org Pinging warhammer.mcc.virginia.edu [128.143.108.35] with 32 bytes of data: [rest snipped] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 15 23:34:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C42337B403 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:34:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f5G6Yei97725 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:34:40 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200106160634.f5G6Yei97725@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Benchmarking CVSup In-Reply-To: <20010615232923.K560@johncoop> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:29:23 -0700 >From: John Merryweather Cooper >> Actually, it should go from 1->16. A more compact way to do it would >> be: >> i=0 >> while [ $i -le 16 ] ; do >> # traceroute cvsup$i.freebsd.org >> i=`expr $i + 1` >> done >There is no cvsup16.FreeBSD.org (or if there is, it's invisible to my ISP). > Counting the lines in each traceroute output would give a good >approximation of the number of hops . . . Each line is already numbered; I suspect it would be easier to read the number vs. counting. And folks interested in this might want to consider the "-n" flag for traceroute: there's little reason to care about the hostnames of the intermediate hops. Cheers, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 0: 5:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anime.net (anime.net [63.172.78.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D0B37B401 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:05:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eugene@anime.net) Received: (from eugene@localhost) by anime.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA07596 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:05:23 -0700 Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:05:23 -0700 From: Eugene Lee To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Benchmarking CVSup Message-ID: <20010616000523.A6642@anime.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-Stable References: <20010616060538.69356.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010616060538.69356.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com>; from hackr_d@yahoo.com on Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 11:05:38PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 11:05:38PM -0700, Donn Miller wrote: : : Actually, it should go from 1->16. A more compact way to do it would be: : : i=0 : while [ $i -le 16 ] ; do : # traceroute cvsup$i.freebsd.org : i=`expr $i + 1` : done I prefer jot. :) for i in `jot 16` do traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org done -- Eugene Lee eugene@anime.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 0:27:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp.wanadoo.nl [194.134.193.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C475237B401 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:27:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p616.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.201.144]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5G7RUb05930; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:27:30 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:27:25 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: "Kenneth Mays" Cc: aard@aard.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0_4 still broken? Message-Id: <20010616092725.3e1a196c.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:40:34 -0400 "Kenneth Mays" wrote: KM> Most of the time we install applications or hardware but don't always list KM> how we fixed an issue when we got something to work that didn't work KM> normally or install software that hit a quirk or two. The best way to maintain the hacks and kludges - er porting work - involved in getting an application working is to make a port - there is a good section in the handbook. If it is useful to others send_pr the port in. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 0:46:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8945537B405 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5G7lT890446 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 03:47:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 03:47:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Benchmarking CVSup In-Reply-To: <20010616000523.A6642@anime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There's probably a better way to do this (e.g., sort the output in increasing order of hopcount): #!/usr/bin/perl $verbose = "false"; if (scalar(@ARGV) > 0) { if ($ARGV[0] = "-v") { $verbose = "true"; } } if ($verbose eq "false") { $devnull = "2>/dev/null"; } for ($i=1; $i<=16; $i++) { $tracecmd = "traceroute -n cvsup$i.freebsd.org $devnull"; print "$tracecmd\n"; open(TRACEROUTE, "$tracecmd |") or die "$!\n"; do { $prevline = $line; if ($verbose eq "true") { print $line; } } while ($line = ); close(TRACEROUTE); chomp($prevline); @tmp = split(' ', $prevline); $hops = $tmp[0]; $mirrors[$i] = $hops; } print "\n===== Summary =====\n\n"; for ($i=1; $i<=16; $i++) { print "cvsup$i.freebsd.org: $mirrors[$i] hops\n"; } -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 2:48:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B111737B406 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 02:48:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 50545 invoked by uid 100); 16 Jun 2001 09:48:07 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15147.11095.884857.587727@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:48:07 -0500 To: Neill Robins Cc: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: shutdown not completing In-Reply-To: <104704270617.20010616015658@nc.rr.com> References: <104704270617.20010616015658@nc.rr.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Neill Robins types: > Saturday, June 16, 2001, 1:27:46 AM, Chris BeHanna wrote: > CB> On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > >> > Yes, but I want to go to single user mode to do make installworld. > >> This is not necessary. > CB> It's still in UPDATING. > I believe the reason for this is due to: > 1) A multi-user system > 2) You want as little precesses (daemons) running as possible You left out what I think is the best reason of all: If the new kernel fails to boot for some reason, it's trivial to back out an installkernel, but a major PITA to back out an installworld. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 2:58: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1070A37B408 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 02:57:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 70034 invoked by uid 100); 16 Jun 2001 09:57:48 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15147.11676.233301.492707@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:57:48 -0500 To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Benchmarking CVSup In-Reply-To: References: <20010616000523.A6642@anime.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris BeHanna types: > There's probably a better way to do this (e.g., sort the output in > increasing order of hopcount): Yes, but why resort to > #!/usr/bin/perl when you can just do: for i in `jot 16` do echo -n "cvsup${i} " traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>&1 | wc -l done | sort +1 -n Getting the correct hop count is left as an exercise for the reader. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 3:11:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.intuos.net (mail.intuos.net [65.196.74.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1044E37B403 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 03:11:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tbrocato@intuos.net) Received: from annihilator (annihilator.intuos.net [65.196.72.23]) by mail.intuos.net (8.11.4/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5GAB5A00457 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:11:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbrocato@intuos.net) Reply-To: From: "Troy Brocato" To: Subject: Perl PAM issues on doing cvsup stable-supfile Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:11:42 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c0f64c$bde8ec80$1748c441@intuos.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently was moving from 4.3-Release to 4.3-Stable. Upon doing a cvsup stable-supfile, I promptly did a make world, make buildkernel and make installkernel. All of these processes finished correctly and the contents of my makefile.conf are as follows: # $FreeBSD: src/etc/defaults/make.conf,v 1.97.2.26 2000/11/10 10:48:10 ru Exp $ # # This file, if present, will be read by make (see /usr/share/mk/sys.mk). # It allows you to override macro definitions to make without changing # your source tree, or anything the source tree installs. # PPP_NOSUID=true # to build ppp with normal permissions NO_LPR=true # do not build lpr and related programs NO_X=true # do not compile in XWindows support (e.g. doscmd) NODESCRYPTLINKS=true # do not replace libcrypt -> libscrypt links NOGAMES=true # do not build games (games/ subdir) NOPERL=true # do not build perl stuff NOUUCP=true # do not build uucp related programs USA_RESIDENT=YES # set to YES if you are a US resident FORCE_PKG_REGISTER=YES # help ports developers to debug After rebooting I get the following errors when webmin starts up at system boot. The following lines are from my messages file: Jun 16 05:53:04 mail perl: unable to dlopen(/usr/lib/pam_unix.so) Jun 16 05:53:04 mail perl: [dlerror: /usr/lib/pam_unix.so: Undefined symbol "pam_get_item"] Jun 16 05:53:04 mail perl: adding faulty module: /usr/lib/pam_unix.so you are able to login to the system but anything that deal with PERL and passwords thru PAM will not work, i.e. WEBMIN, or anything that requires PAM Currently I have about 300 Customers that are not able to connect to their email via webmain interface due to this issue. Any help will be appreciated greatly Thank You! Troy Brocato CTO - Intuos Communications, Inc. CCIE, MCNE, MCSE, CASE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 3:31: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.de (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B77737B40B; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 03:30:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from se@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 15BDLa-0000yj-06; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:30:30 +0200 Received: from Gatekeeper.FreeBSD.org (520047440004-0001@[217.81.6.4]) by fmrl01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 15BDLS-2A3tK4C; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:30:22 +0200 Received: from StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org (StefanEsser [10.0.0.1]) by Gatekeeper.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC74F8B0; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:30:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: by StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 200) id 8DA3D1403; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:30:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:30:21 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Jesper Skriver Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Stefan Esser Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet tcp_input.c Message-ID: <20010616123021.A2365@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> Reply-To: Stefan Esser Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200106061941.f56Jfqf74472@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-Sender: 520047440004-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-06-06 12:41 -0700, Jesper Skriver wrote: > One way we can reduce the amount of traffic we send in response to a SYN > flood is to eliminate the RST we send when removing a connection from > the listen queue. Since we are being flooded, we can assume that the > majority of connections in the queue are bogus. Our RST is unwanted > by these hosts, just as our SYN-ACK was. Genuine connection attempts > will result in hosts responding to our SYN-ACK with an ACK packet. We > will automatically return a RST response to their ACK when it gets to us > if the connection has been dropped, so the early RST doesn't serve the > genuine class of connections much. In summary, we can reduce the number > of packets we send by a factor of two without any loss in functionality > by ensuring that RST packets are not sent when dropping a connection > from the listen queue. Hmmm, I'm not sure that we really: "can reduce the number of packets ... without any loss in functionality" There was a discussion on the effect of ACK flooding (sending ACK only packets for which no socket exists) one year ago. The problem is, that after the hash method does not find the socket, a linear search is performed and even a small rate of such bogus packets can significantly load a server, if there are thousands or ten-thousands of sockets to check ... This is exactly the situation during a SYN flood attack on a highly loaded server, and it appears that by removing the socket from the listen queue without a RST, we will increase the number of ACK only packets sent from legitimate clients. At the time of the attacks against Amazon, Yahoo et.al. it was found, that a stateful packet filter was the best protection against bogus ACK packets entering the TCP stack. (That was the reason "keep-state" and "check-state") were added to IPFW. But in case of a real client connection being dropped, the stateful packet filter will allow the ACK through, since the connection was correctly initiated. I seem to remember, that even a rate of only 100 ACK/s for which no socket is found by means of the hash search may be an effective DoS attack on a busy web server! I'm not sure whether the above is a real threat (and I can't easily test the effect of the patch, currently). But I think we should not MFC the change, unless we know that it does not increase the effect of a SYN flood by adding excessive CPU load to what used to be just a problem of memory wasted by bogus sockets ... If it really turns out to be a problem, then we might want to add support to our stateful packet filters, which drops the validity tag for connection parameters belonging to dropped connections (those for which no data could be delivered because the socket has been deleted). I could be wrong! But I didn't want to let the change go by without any mention of my worry that it might have unexpected side effects ... Regards, STefan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 3:40: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp.wanadoo.nl [194.134.193.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE3837B405 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 03:39:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p0925.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.202.162]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5GAdlb27079; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:39:47 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:39:42 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd@nc.rr.com, behanna@zbzoom.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shutdown not completing Message-Id: <20010616123942.7f5e3819.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: <15147.11095.884857.587727@guru.mired.org> References: <104704270617.20010616015658@nc.rr.com> <15147.11095.884857.587727@guru.mired.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:48:07 -0500 Mike Meyer wrote: MM> You left out what I think is the best reason of all: If the new kernel MM> fails to boot for some reason, it's trivial to back out an MM> installkernel, but a major PITA to back out an installworld. This is why a reboot before installworld is a *good* idea. It has little to do with running installworld multi-user. It is *possible* to let the boot sequence complete all the way and then run installworld multiuser, *most* of the time it will work but another reboot would be wise after mergemaster to make sure that the running daemons and the config files are consistent (POLA). -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 3:49: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 217AD37B405 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 03:48:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 22685 invoked by uid 100); 16 Jun 2001 10:48:50 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15147.14738.542892.94465@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 05:48:50 -0500 To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: freebsd@nc.rr.com, behanna@zbzoom.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shutdown not completing In-Reply-To: <20010616123942.7f5e3819.steveo@eircom.net> References: <104704270617.20010616015658@nc.rr.com> <15147.11095.884857.587727@guru.mired.org> <20010616123942.7f5e3819.steveo@eircom.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve O'Hara-Smith types: > On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:48:07 -0500 > Mike Meyer wrote: > MM> You left out what I think is the best reason of all: If the new kernel > MM> fails to boot for some reason, it's trivial to back out an > MM> installkernel, but a major PITA to back out an installworld. > > This is why a reboot before installworld is a *good* idea. It has little > to do with running installworld multi-user. > > It is *possible* to let the boot sequence complete all the way and then > run installworld multiuser, *most* of the time it will work but another reboot > would be wise after mergemaster to make sure that the running daemons and the > config files are consistent (POLA). My standard update sequence involves booting the new kernel multiuser, then shutting down to single user. I do that because the test box that I always install on first mounts the source and object trees via nfs, and that's the easiest way to get them mounted. I then run installworld and mergemaster in single-user mode, and reboot yet again to make sure everything is going to be fine. Even after doing all that on the test box, I still reboot to single user after doing installkernel on everything else, as not all the systems use the same drivers, so that particular kernel needs to be checked. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 3:57:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA0F37B405 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 03:56:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5GAvp811226; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:57:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:57:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: Mike Meyer Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Benchmarking CVSup In-Reply-To: <15147.11676.233301.492707@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > Chris BeHanna types: > > There's probably a better way to do this (e.g., sort the output in > > increasing order of hopcount): > > Yes, but why resort to > > > #!/usr/bin/perl > > when you can just do: > > for i in `jot 16` > do > echo -n "cvsup${i} " > traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>&1 | wc -l > done | sort +1 -n I quote: "There's probably a better way to do this...." :-) > Getting the correct hop count is left as an exercise for the reader. -traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>&1 | wc -l +expr `traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>&1 | wc -l` - 1 Works great. Thanks! -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 4:58:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pltn13.pbi.net (mta8.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24DB37B407 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:58:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb3insf@pacbell.net) Received: from pacbell.net ([64.171.0.246]) by mta8.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GF000E9IULXCB@mta8.pltn13.pbi.net> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 05:01:53 -0700 From: Jake Bishop Subject: Kernel install To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <3B2B4AB1.F5F17C76@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.5-ac9 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am new to FreeBSD.I have used Linux for about 5 years. I used cvsup to get the 4.3 stable source, compiled and installed it, Now I have built a new kernel. when I type make install I get: chflags noschg /kernel chflags: /kernel : Operation not permitted *** error code 1 (ignored) mv /kernel /kernel.old mv: rename /kernel to /kernel.old: Operation not permitted Error code 1 Sorry for the newbie question. TIA Jake To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 5:10:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailc.telia.com (mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E2037B406 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 05:10:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailc.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5GCASa05312 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:10:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA09308 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:10:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 37469 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Jun 2001 12:10:02 -0000 Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:10:02 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Jake Bishop Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel install Message-ID: <20010616141002.A37445@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: Jake Bishop , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B2B4AB1.F5F17C76@pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B2B4AB1.F5F17C76@pacbell.net>; from jb3insf@pacbell.net on Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 05:01:53AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 05:01:53AM -0700, Jake Bishop wrote: > Hello, > I am new to FreeBSD.I have used Linux for about 5 years. > I used cvsup to get the 4.3 stable source, compiled and installed it, > Now I have built a new kernel. when I type make install I get: > > chflags noschg /kernel > chflags: /kernel : Operation not permitted > *** error code 1 (ignored) > mv /kernel /kernel.old > mv: rename /kernel to /kernel.old: Operation not permitted > Error code 1 > > Sorry for the newbie question. > TIA > Jake You are probably running at securelevel > 0 See the FAQ: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#KERNEL-CHFLAG-FAILURE -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 7:31:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pt-quorum.com (pt-quorum.com [209.10.167.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4D037B403 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:31:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com) Received: from p160-237.netc.pt ([213.30.47.160]) by pt-quorum.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11942 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:24:25 +0100 Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:33:56 +0100 (WEST) From: Nuno Teixeira To: Subject: REPLY TO in majordomo Message-ID: <20010616152858.V344-100000@gateway.bogus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello to all, I'm subscribed in other mailings that uses majordomo too. I noted that some of them include a REPLY TO in all messages what prevents that messages are sent too times for the mailing and for the user. In this way, if the "reply to" are pointed to the mailing list then we save some bytes. For people who archive large quantities on mailings like me, a lot of repeated mails are a problem. Thanks very much, - -- Nuno Teixeira Dir. Técnico pt-quorum.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQE7K25bjwdyCmOgT8cRAiyjAJ48FZoCYmDLxeeoWbQMWZUo7geKEACcDcG1 vEdIY7f0kuUONa4u+SWsUV8= =TYNK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 7:41:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melchior.enst.fr [137.194.161.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7148C37B40B; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:40:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org) Received: from melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melusine.enst.fr [137.194.160.34]) by melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC87C790D; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:40:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: by melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3897024D0C; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:40:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:40:53 +0200 From: Thomas Quinot To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/24596: sysinstall crash: Page fault while in kernel mode Message-ID: <20010616164052.B1885@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Reply-To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org References: <20010616014110.A1456@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010616014110.A1456@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org>; from thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org on Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 01:41:10AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Le 2001-06-16, Thomas Quinot écrivait : > (kgdb) print *pdev > $3 = {si_flags = 0, si_udev = 69378, si_hash = {le_next = 0xc0342818, > le_prev = 0xc0c48a88}, si_hlist = {slh_first = 0x0}, > si_name = "cd0", '\000' , si_drv1 = 0x0, si_drv2 = 0x0, > si_devsw = 0xc033e540, si_devfs = 0x0, si_bdevfs = 0x0, > si_iosize_max = 65536, __si_u = {__si_tty = {__sit_tty = 0xc0c46034}, > __si_disk = {__sid_disk = 0xc0c46034, __sid_mountpoint = 0x0, > __sid_bsize_phys = 0, __sid_bsize_best = 0}}} Since we had some indication (si_name) that this problem was related to cd0 (an HP Surestore CDW 6020) I investigated that direction a bit further. I was able to recreate a similar crash when trying to mount a CD, but the crash dump was of no help (the stack frame pointer was apparently wrong, and gdb was unable to produce a backtrace). However, I noted that these crashes occur only when one specific faulty disc is present in the CD burner at boot time (a failed disc that was not fixated correctly). When this CD is in the drive at boot time, I get the following messages: (cd0:sym0:0:2:0): got CAM status 0x4c (cd0:sym0:0:2:0): fatal error, failed to attach to device (cd0:sym0:0:2:0): lost device (cd0:sym0:0:2:0): removing device entry When the CD is not in the drive at boot time, I get no such error, and sysinstall and mounting a CD work correctly afterward. Hope this helps, Thomas. -- Thomas.Quinot@Cuivre.FR.EU.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 7:48: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A26CD37B405 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:47:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 37542 invoked by uid 100); 16 Jun 2001 14:47:58 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15147.29086.684162.146387@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:47:58 -0500 To: Nuno Teixeira Cc: Subject: Re: REPLY TO in majordomo In-Reply-To: <20010616152858.V344-100000@gateway.bogus> References: <20010616152858.V344-100000@gateway.bogus> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nuno Teixeira types: > In this way, if the "reply to" are pointed to the mailing list then we > save some bytes. Those lists are broken. See for details. > For people who archive large quantities on mailings like me, a lot of > repeated mails are a problem. Any reasonable mail filtering software will include the ability to filter out duplicates. If you've reading mail on Unix, the procmail port will do it, and the documentation includes an example. If you're using qmail for local delivery, you can find a tool for doing that at . http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 8:58:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B110637B406; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:57:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5GFvOE00563; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:57:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:57:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106161557.f5GFvOE00563@earth.backplane.com> To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Another SCB timeout lockup - this time with console logs! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, it happened again. ahc0 and fxp0 both went poof and started looping on timeouts. Here is the console log. I included a bunch of the repetitions. It repeats forever (I have another 15000 lines I didn't include). This is on a DELL2400. I've included the dmesg.boot and pciconf output at the end. This is the first time it has happened (about 3 weeks) since I upgraded the Dell BIOS to A07. While this occured with the new fxp driver, the same problem was occuring with the old driver as per a previous incident. -Matt fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x80, 0x0, 0x90 0x0 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x80, 0x0, 0x90 0x0 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x80, 0x0, 0x90 0x0 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x80, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: device timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xe0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x86, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xc0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: command queue timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: device timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xe0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x86, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xc0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: command queue timeout (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0xf8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x181 STACK == 0x17c, 0x166, 0x0, 0xe SXFRCTL0 == 0x80 ahc0: Dumping Card State at SEQADDR 0x181 SCSISEQ = 0x12, SBLKCTL = 0xa, SSTAT0 0x0 SCB count = 255 Kernel NEXTQSCB = 216 Card NEXTQSCB = 248 QINFIFO entries: 248 36 44 1 239 23 29 Waiting Queue entries: Disconnected Queue entries: QOUTFIFO entries: Sequencer Free SCB List: 28 22 23 21 26 11 27 15 1 5 18 0 29 12 25 16 13 7 6 4 31 9 20 19 24 17 3 10 8 30 14 Pending list: 29 23 239 1 44 36 248 Kernel Free SCB list: 21 41 26 66 236 45 30 217 49 18 50 218 230 212 253 222 220 19 243 54 12 0 47 237 240 52 225 9 214 15 59 4 211 249 246 34 5 35 31 20 210 67 228 16 65 57 245 68 37 233 7 8 6 229 2 213 10 235 69 231 53 232 254 3 48 221 227 46 51 17 56 25 223 14 242 226 27 55 241 58 24 42 22 32 40 33 13 43 11 244 215 39 28 238 38 224 247 234 219 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 60 61 62 63 64 252 251 250 sg[0] - Addr 0xf7bb000 : Length 4096 sg[1] - Addr 0x1485c000 : Length 4096 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 248: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x4040 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 7 SCBs aborted ahc0: PCI error Interrupt at seqaddr = 0x2 ahc0: Received a Master Abort fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: device timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xe0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x86, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xc0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: command queue timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: device timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xe0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x86, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xc0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0xd8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x181 STACK == 0x17c, 0x0, 0xe, 0xe SXFRCTL0 == 0x80 ahc0: Dumping Card State at SEQADDR 0x181 SCSISEQ = 0x12, SBLKCTL = 0xa, SSTAT0 0x0 SCB count = 255 Kernel NEXTQSCB = 248 Card NEXTQSCB = 216 QINFIFO entries: 216 29 23 239 1 44 36 Waiting Queue entries: Disconnected Queue entries: QOUTFIFO entries: Sequencer Free SCB List: 28 22 23 21 26 11 27 15 1 5 18 0 29 12 25 16 13 7 6 4 31 9 20 19 24 17 3 10 8 30 14 Pending list: 36 44 1 239 23 29 216 Kernel Free SCB list: 21 41 26 66 236 45 30 217 49 18 50 218 230 212 253 222 220 19 243 54 12 0 47 237 240 52 225 9 214 15 59 4 211 249 246 34 5 35 31 20 210 67 228 16 65 57 245 68 37 233 7 8 6 229 2 213 10 235 69 231 53 232 254 3 48 221 227 46 51 17 56 25 223 14 242 226 27 55 241 58 24 42 22 32 40 33 13 43 11 244 215 39 28 238 38 224 247 234 219 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 60 61 62 63 64 252 251 250 sg[0] - Addr 0xf7bb000 : Length 4096 sg[1] - Addr 0x1485c000 : Length 4096 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 216: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x4040 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 7 SCBs aborted ahc0: PCI error Interrupt at seqaddr = 0x2 ahc0: Received a Master Abort fxp0: command queue timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: device timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xe0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x86, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xc0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: command queue timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: device timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xe0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x86, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xc0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0xf8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x181 STACK == 0x17c, 0xe, 0xe, 0xe SXFRCTL0 == 0x80 ahc0: Dumping Card State at SEQADDR 0x181 SCSISEQ = 0x12, SBLKCTL = 0xa, SSTAT0 0x0 SCB count = 255 Kernel NEXTQSCB = 21 Card NEXTQSCB = 248 QINFIFO entries: 248 36 44 1 239 23 29 216 Waiting Queue entries: Disconnected Queue entries: QOUTFIFO entries: Sequencer Free SCB List: 28 22 23 21 26 11 27 15 1 5 18 0 29 12 25 16 13 7 6 4 31 9 20 19 24 17 3 10 8 30 14 Pending list: 216 29 23 239 1 44 36 248 Kernel Free SCB list: 41 26 66 236 45 30 217 49 18 50 218 230 212 253 222 220 19 243 54 12 0 47 237 240 52 225 9 214 15 59 4 211 249 246 34 5 35 31 20 210 67 228 16 65 57 245 68 37 233 7 8 6 229 2 213 10 235 69 231 53 232 254 3 48 221 227 46 51 17 56 25 223 14 242 226 27 55 241 58 24 42 22 32 40 33 13 43 11 244 215 39 28 238 38 224 247 234 219 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 60 61 62 63 64 252 251 250 sg[0] - Addr 0xf7bb000 : Length 4096 sg[1] - Addr 0x1485c000 : Length 4096 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 248: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x4040 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 8 SCBs aborted ahc0: PCI error Interrupt at seqaddr = 0x2 ahc0: Received a Master Abort fxp0: command queue timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: device timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xe0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x86, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xc0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: command queue timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: device timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xe0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x86, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xc0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x15 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x181 STACK == 0x17c, 0xe, 0xe, 0xe SXFRCTL0 == 0x80 ahc0: Dumping Card State at SEQADDR 0x181 SCSISEQ = 0x12, SBLKCTL = 0xa, SSTAT0 0x0 SCB count = 255 Kernel NEXTQSCB = 248 Card NEXTQSCB = 21 QINFIFO entries: 21 216 29 23 239 1 44 36 Waiting Queue entries: Disconnected Queue entries: QOUTFIFO entries: Sequencer Free SCB List: 28 22 23 21 26 11 27 15 1 5 18 0 29 12 25 16 13 7 6 4 31 9 20 19 24 17 3 10 8 30 14 Pending list: 36 44 1 239 23 29 216 21 Kernel Free SCB list: 41 26 66 236 45 30 217 49 18 50 218 230 212 253 222 220 19 243 54 12 0 47 237 240 52 225 9 214 15 59 4 211 249 246 34 5 35 31 20 210 67 228 16 65 57 245 68 37 233 7 8 6 229 2 213 10 235 69 231 53 232 254 3 48 221 227 46 51 17 56 25 223 14 242 226 27 55 241 58 24 42 22 32 40 33 13 43 11 244 215 39 28 238 38 224 247 234 219 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 60 61 62 63 64 252 251 250 sg[0] - Addr 0xf7bb000 : Length 4096 sg[1] - Addr 0x1485c000 : Length 4096 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 21: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x4040 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 8 SCBs aborted ahc0: PCI error Interrupt at seqaddr = 0x2 ahc0: Received a Master Abort fxp0: command queue timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: device timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xe0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x86, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xc0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: command queue timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: device timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xe0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x86, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xc0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: DMA timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x90, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0xf8 - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0x181 STACK == 0x17c, 0xe, 0xe, 0xe SXFRCTL0 == 0x80 ahc0: Dumping Card State at SEQADDR 0x181 SCSISEQ = 0x12, SBLKCTL = 0xa, SSTAT0 0x0 SCB count = 255 Kernel NEXTQSCB = 21 Card NEXTQSCB = 248 QINFIFO entries: 248 36 44 1 239 23 29 216 Waiting Queue entries: Disconnected Queue entries: QOUTFIFO entries: Sequencer Free SCB List: 28 22 23 21 26 11 27 15 1 5 18 0 29 12 25 16 13 7 6 4 31 9 20 19 24 17 3 10 8 30 14 Pending list: 216 29 23 239 1 44 36 248 Kernel Free SCB list: 41 26 66 236 45 30 217 49 18 50 218 230 212 253 222 220 19 243 54 12 0 47 237 240 52 225 9 214 15 59 4 211 249 246 34 5 35 31 20 210 67 228 16 65 57 245 68 37 233 7 8 6 229 2 213 10 235 69 231 53 232 254 3 48 221 227 46 51 17 56 25 223 14 242 226 27 55 241 58 24 42 22 32 40 33 13 43 11 244 215 39 28 238 38 224 247 234 219 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 60 61 62 63 64 252 251 250 sg[0] - Addr 0xf7bb000 : Length 4096 sg[1] - Addr 0x1485c000 : Length 4096 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 248: Immediate reset. Flags = 0x4040 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 8 SCBs aborted ahc0: PCI error Interrupt at seqaddr = 0x2 ahc0: Received a Master Abort fxp0: command queue timeout ... Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #3: Sat May 26 13:34:43 PDT 2001 dillon@ns1.backplane.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/EARTH Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (531.65-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x681 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 536862720 (524280K bytes) avail memory = 519036928 (506872K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0350000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 ahc0: port 0xfc00-0xfcff mem 0xfcfff000-0xfcffffff irq 14 at device 4.0 on pci1 aic7890/91: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0xf800-0xf8ff mem 0xfcffe000-0xfcffefff irq 10 at device 6.0 on pci1 aic7880: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs fxp0: port 0xecc0-0xecff mem 0xfe000000-0xfe0fffff,0xfe101000-0xfe101fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:b0:d0:22:fb:03 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: at 14.0 isab0: at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pcib2: on motherboard pci2: on pcib2 fxp1: port 0xdcc0-0xdcff mem 0xf5100000-0xf51fffff,0xf5201000-0xf5201fff irq 5 at device 6.0 on pci2 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:7e:75:c3 inphy1: on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp2: port 0xdc80-0xdcbf mem 0xf5000000-0xf50fffff,0xf5200000-0xf5200fff irq 14 at device 8.0 on pci2 fxp2: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:7e:77:31 inphy2: on miibus2 inphy2: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x30 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A, console IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to deny, logging disabled IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing. IP Filter: v3.4.16 initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = disabled Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle pass2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 pass2: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device pass2: 3.300MB/s transfers da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 34732MB (71132960 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4427C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 34732MB (71132960 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4427C) cd0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted chip0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00091166 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 chip1@pci0:0:1: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00091166 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 pcib1@pci0:2:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000068 chip=0x09628086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 fxp0@pci0:8:0: class=0x020000 card=0x009b1028 chip=0x12298086 rev=0x08 hdr=0x00 none0@pci0:14:0: class=0x030000 card=0x009b1028 chip=0x47591002 rev=0x7a hdr=0x00 isab0@pci0:15:0: class=0x060100 card=0x02001166 chip=0x02001166 rev=0x4f hdr=0x00 ahc0@pci1:4:0: class=0x010000 card=0x000f9005 chip=0x001f9005 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 ahc1@pci1:6:0: class=0x010000 card=0x78809004 chip=0x80789004 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 fxp1@pci2:6:0: class=0x020000 card=0x100c8086 chip=0x12298086 rev=0x08 hdr=0x00 fxp2@pci2:8:0: class=0x020000 card=0x100c8086 chip=0x12298086 rev=0x08 hdr=0x00 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 9:32:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aslan.scsiguy.com (aslan.scsiguy.com [63.229.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8C737B409; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:32:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Received: from scsiguy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.scsiguy.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f5GGWbU04297; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:32:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Message-Id: <200106161632.f5GGWbU04297@aslan.scsiguy.com> To: Matt Dillon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another SCB timeout lockup - this time with console logs! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:57:24 PDT." <200106161557.f5GFvOE00563@earth.backplane.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:32:37 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Ok, it happened again. ahc0 and fxp0 both went poof and started > looping on timeouts. Here is the console log. I included a bunch > of the repetitions. It repeats forever (I have another 15000 lines I > didn't include). From what I can tell, the aic7xxx card is sitting in a loop waiting for its DMA of the next transaction to complete. The fxp driver seems to have similar problems with burst transfers at the same time. My guess would be that the chipset gets wedged somehow, but without chipset information from ServerWorks, this is going to be a tough nut to crack. Having a PCI bus analyzer might help as well, assuming there is a slot on either the bus fxp0 or ahc0 is sitting on. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 10:12:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7298F37B406; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:12:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5GHCGE01537; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:12:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:12:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106161712.f5GHCGE01537@earth.backplane.com> To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another SCB timeout lockup - this time with console logs! References: <200106161632.f5GGWbU04297@aslan.scsiguy.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :> Ok, it happened again. ahc0 and fxp0 both went poof and started :> looping on timeouts. Here is the console log. I included a bunch :> of the repetitions. It repeats forever (I have another 15000 lines I :> didn't include). : :From what I can tell, the aic7xxx card is sitting in a loop waiting :for its DMA of the next transaction to complete. The fxp driver seems :to have similar problems with burst transfers at the same time. My guess :would be that the chipset gets wedged somehow, but without chipset :information from ServerWorks, this is going to be a tough nut to crack. :Having a PCI bus analyzer might help as well, assuming there is a slot :on either the bus fxp0 or ahc0 is sitting on. : :-- :Justin I don't know how typical that would be, but it seems unlikely that the motherboard chipsets would be shared with a PCI slot. Hmm, interesting. I just compared the dmesg.run for our DELL 2400 and one of our DELL 2450's & 2550's. On all of them the on-board adaptec controller is bridged off the pci bus that fxp0 is sitting on. This problem has only occured on the 2400, though, and the 2400 and 2450 seems to be using the same ServerWorks chipsets. Odd. I am going to try working around it by disabling the on-board fxp0 and throwing another PCI ethernet card into the box. Then the two busiest devices will be routing through different PCI busses. DELL2400: pcib0 on motherboard fxp0 pcib1 is device 2.0 on pci0 ahc0 (drives here) ahc1 (cdrom) pcib2 on motherboard fxp1 (pci card) fxp2 (pci card) DELL2450: pcib0 on motherboard ahc0 ? pcib1 on motherboard fxp0 pcib2 device 2.0 on pci1 ahc1 (drives here) ahc2 DELL2550: pcib0 on motherboard motherboard gfx pcib1 on motherboard pcib2 on motherboard fxp0 pcib3 on motherboard pcib4 device 2.0 on pci2 ahc0 (drives here) ahc1 -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 10:45:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976B337B403; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:45:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id KAA12994; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:45:31 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda12992; Sat Jun 16 10:45:30 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.4/8.9.1) id f5GHjPT16689; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UNKNOWN(10.1.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdF16684; Sat Jun 16 10:44:49 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.4/8.9.1) id f5GHi1C11385; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106161744.f5GHi1C11385@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdK11381; Sat Jun 16 10:44:00 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: Matt Dillon , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another SCB timeout lockup - this time with console logs! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:32:37 MDT." <200106161632.f5GGWbU04297@aslan.scsiguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:44:00 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200106161632.f5GGWbU04297@aslan.scsiguy.com>, "Justin T. Gibbs" wri tes: > > Ok, it happened again. ahc0 and fxp0 both went poof and started > > looping on timeouts. Here is the console log. I included a bunch > > of the repetitions. It repeats forever (I have another 15000 lines I > > didn't include). > > >From what I can tell, the aic7xxx card is sitting in a loop waiting > for its DMA of the next transaction to complete. The fxp driver seems > to have similar problems with burst transfers at the same time. My guess > would be that the chipset gets wedged somehow, but without chipset > information from ServerWorks, this is going to be a tough nut to crack. > Having a PCI bus analyzer might help as well, assuming there is a slot > on either the bus fxp0 or ahc0 is sitting on. My server system at home, an ASUS CUSL2-C motherboard based on the i815E chipset with a 2940UW (aic7880: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs), frequently wedged, especially when accessing a SCSI device. Disabling PCI 2.1, ie. reverting to PCI 2.0, resolved my problem. If your motherboard has a PCI support option you might want to try to back it off to PCI 2.0. Since backing my motherboard's PCI support down to 2.0 I haven't had a wedge since. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 11:20:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (uswest-dsl-142-38.cortland.com [209.162.142.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE64F37B409 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:20:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lamont@scriptkiddie.org) Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (warez.scriptkiddie.org [209.162.142.38]) by warez.scriptkiddie.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E4862D01; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:20:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lamont Granquist To: John Merryweather Cooper Cc: Donn Miller , Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Benchmarking CVSup In-Reply-To: <20010615232923.K560@johncoop> Message-ID: <20010616111959.P67897-100000@warez.scriptkiddie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, John Merryweather Cooper wrote: > Counting the lines in each traceroute output would give a good > approximation of the number of hops . . . tail -1 works to pull off the last hop: #!/bin/sh for i in `jot 16` do echo -n "cvsup${i} " traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org | tail -1 done | sort +1 -n | tee mirrors.out To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 11:23:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4736837B401; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:23:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5GINpx00866; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:23:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:23:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106161823.f5GINpx00866@earth.backplane.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problem solved - (was Re: Another SCB timeout lockup - this time with console logs!) References: <200106161557.f5GFvOE00563@earth.backplane.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tor directed me to PR 19226. At the very end of that sequence of bug reports it turned out that Dell had a motherboard problem on early 2400 motherboards. From Tor: "If you have a chip with a thermal weakness (W158H) instead of a thermally more robust chip (CY2210PVC-2) you might want to replace your motherboard." And, indeed, it turns out that My DELL 2400 motherboard has the W158H chip on it, and our two DELL 2450's (which do not exhibit the problem) have the newer CY chip. That cinches it, we'll be getting a new motherboard from Dell. -Matt : Ok, it happened again. ahc0 and fxp0 both went poof and started : looping on timeouts. Here is the console log. I included a bunch : of the repetitions. It repeats forever (I have another 15000 lines I : didn't include). : : This is on a DELL2400. I've included the dmesg.boot and pciconf : output at the end. This is the first time it has happened (about : 3 weeks) since I upgraded the Dell BIOS to A07. : : While this occured with the new fxp driver, the same problem was occuring : with the old driver as per a previous incident. : : -Matt : :fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x80, 0x0, 0x90 0x0 :fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x80, 0x0, 0x90 0x0 :fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x80, 0x0, 0x90 0x0 :fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x80, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 :fxp0: device timeout :fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xe0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 :fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x86, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 :fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xc0, 0x0, 0x90 0x400 :fxp0: DMA timeout :... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 13:25:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from glatton.cnchost.com (glatton.cnchost.com [207.155.248.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5252C37B406 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:25:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@techpraxis.com) Received: from [64.221.116.133] (w133.z064221116.sea-wa.dsl.cnc.net [64.221.116.133]) by glatton.cnchost.com id QAA10802; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:25:41 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.13] From: Administrator To: Subject: information Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:25:43 -0700 Message-Id: <20010616202543.8233@mail.techpraxis.com> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail 3.0.9 carbon (demo) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe admin@techpraxis.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 18:20:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from enigma.crypt-net.org (enigma.crypt-net.org [216.254.75.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7C637B403 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:20:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjw@crypt-net.org) Received: from arethusa (arethusa.crypt-net.org [216.254.75.171]) by enigma.crypt-net.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F3520BD; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:20:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:22:25 -0400 From: Matt White To: Joe Clarke , Jim King , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netgraph bridge and Aironet Message-ID: <589100369.992726545@arethusa> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is actually not true. I have a FreeBSD 4.2 bridge on a floppy that does bridging between a Cisco Aironet card and an ISA ethernet card. There is a catch however, the Apple Airport that I have gets confused by packets with a source address other than the hardware source address carried by the 802.11b connection protocol. So the airport (and therefore I guess all Karlbridge based units) sees a client with address sending it packets with an ethernet source address of . The airport's bridging tables are set up correctly if SNMP is to believed, but the airport insists on sending all wireless packets to the ethernet destination specified by the client connection () instead of what is indicated by its bridge table, . The hack I have in place right now is to assign the address to the aironet adapter so that = and everything works. This obviously only works if you only have one client behind the wired ethernet, which is the case for me but doesn't work for many situations. Anyone else have any experience with this? I'd like a more general solution if I can get it. -Matt --On Monday, June 04, 2001 11:18 PM -0400 Joe Clarke wrote: > From the bridge(4) manpage: > > Interfaces that cannot be put into promiscuous mode or that don't > support sending packets with arbitrary Ethernet source addresses are not > compatible with bridging. > > I do not believe FreeBSD is able to place the Aironet cards into > promiscuous mode. Therefore, bridging will not work. > > Joe Clarke > > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Jim King wrote: > >> Should netgraph bridging work with Cisco Aironet NICs which use an(4)? >> It seems to work bridging an Intel (fxp) and a DEC (de), but trying to >> bridge an Intel and an Aironet doesn't seem to work - the remote node on >> the Aironet side is able to get a DHCP lease across the bridge, but >> nothing after that works. I can see packets coming into the Aironet >> with tcpdump, but I don't see them going out on the Intel side. >> >> I'm using ether.bridge from /usr/share/examples/netgraph, with >> BRIDGE_IFACES="an0 fxp0" and LOCAL_IFACE="fxp0" to get setup the bridge. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> >> > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 18:41:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5808437B401 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:41:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb3insf@pacbell.net) Received: from pacbell.net ([64.173.25.220]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0GF10058QWOJYD@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:44:17 -0700 From: Jake Bishop Subject: XFree86-4.1.0_4 and 4.3 STABLE To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <3B2C0B71.C14F4F1D@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I installed XFree86-4.1.0_4 from the ports.When I run XFree86 -configure the machine freezes for about 30 seconds and then "hard" reboots without any input from the keyboard or mouse.It did generate a XF86Config.new file though which correctly Identified my video card, mouse etc. I am running STABLE 4.3, compiled yesterday. Its on an Asus A7A266 mobo with an Athlon 1200 200mghz fsb ATI Radeon 64mb DDR video card 256 megs DDR 2100 ram. This same setup works fine with Linux. I compiled the Freebsd kernel with agp support. Thanks Jake To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 19:24:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20B237B40A for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:24:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 15BSER-0006j5-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:24:07 -0700 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: mergemaster oddity Message-Id: Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:24:07 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG in the last weeks, when chosing i(nstall, i get "problems installing ... will be saved." yet it actually installed. randy, chasing perms To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 19:45:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailout2-0.nyroc.rr.com (mailout2-1.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CE537B403 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:45:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from James_Bond_79@yahoo.com) Received: from Halstead007 (roc-24-169-196-57.rochester.rr.com [24.169.196.57]) by mailout2-0.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.2/RoadRunner 1.03) with SMTP id f5H2iPW19214; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: James Halstead To: Randy Bush , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: mergemaster oddity Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:52:02 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061622520209.06764@Halstead007> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday 16 June 2001 22:24, Randy Bush wrote: > in the last weeks, when chosing i(nstall, i get "problems installing > ... will be saved." yet it actually installed. This is known, and patches are being reviewed by the mergemaster maintainer. pr is: misc/28190 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=28190 James. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 16 20:28:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AB237B405 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 20:28:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5H3TZF01858 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:29:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:29:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0_4 and 4.3 STABLE In-Reply-To: <3B2C0B71.C14F4F1D@pacbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Jake Bishop wrote: > Hello, > I installed XFree86-4.1.0_4 from the ports.When I run XFree86 -configure > > the machine freezes for about 30 seconds and then "hard" reboots without > > any input from the keyboard or mouse.It did generate > a XF86Config.new file though which correctly Identified my video card, > mouse etc. > I am running STABLE 4.3, compiled yesterday. > Its on an Asus A7A266 mobo with an Athlon 1200 200mghz fsb > ATI Radeon 64mb DDR video card > 256 megs DDR 2100 ram. > This same setup works fine with Linux. > I compiled the Freebsd kernel with agp support. This is very similar to my setup, with the exception that I'm running a Gigabyte GA-7DX mobo and a 1333Mhz T-bird, with a 266Mhz FSB (actually 133, but DDR makes it look like 266). You have the ALiMaGiK chipset on your motherboard, and I have the AMD 761 chipset on mine. These "nonstandard" chipsets are, IIUC, the crux of the problem, and we may quite simply be hosed until there's ALiMaGiK and AMD 761 support in the FreeBSD bits of XFree86. (If I had time, I'd love to write this code, but the paying job has been really grinding me up lately.) I've managed to get X and KDE2 to come up under 4.0.3_3, but they don't run correctly: I have a big white square where the cursor should be, buttons are missing in the GUI, and pixmaps are missing, too. Under 4.1.0_4, X came up (with the big white square), but the screen went black when I tried to exit X, and although the system was still reachable via ssh, I couldn't get the console back without rebooting (fortunately, I was able to ssh in and do a graceful shutdown). Tell me: are all 64MB of your Radeon detected? Only 32 are detected on mine, both in Win2K and FreeBSD. It's a VIVO, and those only come in the 64MB variant. I wonder if I have a bum board. :-( -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message