From owner-freebsd-bugbusters Tue Aug 20 3:49:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugbusters@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7353537B400; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 03:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (bremen.shuttle.de [194.95.249.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740B343E4A; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 03:49:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bremen.shuttle.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFED17D70; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:49:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bremen.shuttle.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with UUCP id g7KAnnrv020202; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:49:49 +0200 Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7KAJMVY031840; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:19:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.12.5/8.12.3/Submit) id g7KAJLOB031839; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:19:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:19:21 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: bugbusters@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Have you closed a PR this week? Message-ID: <20020820121921.B30244@schweikhardt.net> References: <20020812145614.A13004@schweikhardt.net> <20020819214101.GA3837@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020819214101.GA3837@hades.hell.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-bugbusters@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Giorgos et al, On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 12:41:01AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: # On 2002-08-12 14:56 +0000, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: # > Ladies (yo!) and Gentlemen, # > # > The current number of open PRs seems to be inversely proportional to the # > Dow Jones, NASDAQ and . See # > http://people.freebsd.org/~bsd/prstats/ for a chart. # # You've done some excellent pieces of work lately. Now I have to work # hard to keep up with this amount of PR closing. It sure sounds like # this is gonna be a niiice Autumn. Thanks, but I think some of this praise belongs to iedowse as I have only closed many he has put to feedback in the past. I tried to make up for that by requesting feedback from a few open ones. Some in my area of expertise I tried to address. Of others I thought "hey I can get this to work" which then turns out to be not that easy. :-) Johan has started to assign PRs to either individuals or mailing lists, which I have done a few times in the past as well. We (=bugbusters, in Cc:) should consider being more aggressive here. Assigning responsibility of PRs to individuals instead of freebsd-bugs might give them some audience at all. This is assuming many developers don't even browse the GNATS db; I have no stats on this, so could be wrong, but this is my working hypothesis right now. If the problem is related to some file or the PR contains a patch, I have found it useful to use the "whodid src/what/ever/file.c" utility on freefall to get an idea who is working on some file or at least who has done the most commits. One question I have is this: Some PRs describe problems that are very hard to fix in the Right Way(TM), and even then will be only a marginal improvement for some corner case or weird hardware. For example some of the sysinstall related PRs are in this category. Beating a Dead Horse, IMHO. Shall we be honest and close with "Yes it's icky, but it won't get fixed." or leave them open and rot in the hope someone from the outside picks it up? Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugbusters" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-bugbusters Tue Aug 20 10:45:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugbusters@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E174837B400 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (numeri.campus.luth.se [130.240.197.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A676643E84 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:45:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Received: (from k@localhost) by numeri.campus.luth.se (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7KHjSn47274 for bugbusters@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:45:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from k) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:45:27 +0200 From: Johan Karlsson To: bugbusters@freebsd.org Subject: PR 41182 seems to be in a strange state Message-ID: <20020820194527.A44100@numeri.campus.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-bugbusters@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi can someone please have a look at PR 41182. Is seem to be in a strange state. johan@freefall ~ >query-pr 41182 >Number: 41182 >Category: bin >Synopsis: Makefile syntax error? >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-bugs >State: open >Class: sw-bug >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jul 30 15:10:01 PDT 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Neil Darlow >Release: FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE-p2 i386 johan@freefall ~ > johan@freefall ~ >query-pr -F 41182 [...] >Number: 41182 >Category: bin >Synopsis: Makefile syntax error? >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-bugs >State: closed >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jul 30 15:10:01 PDT 2002 >Closed-Date: Mon Aug 12 11:24:44 PDT 2002 >Last-Modified: Mon Aug 12 11:24:44 PDT 2002 >Originator: Neil Darlow >Release: FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE-p2 i386 >Organization: Neil Darlow Consulting >Environment: [...] To me it seem like the index needs to be regenerated. Take care /Johan -- Johan Karlsson mailto:johan@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugbusters" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-bugbusters Thu Aug 22 14:20:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugbusters@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DCC37B400 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (numeri.campus.luth.se [130.240.197.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAEB43E97 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:20:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Received: (from k@localhost) by numeri.campus.luth.se (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7MLK3U43606; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 23:20:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from k) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 23:20:03 +0200 From: Johan Karlsson To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: bugbusters@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weekly PR Notifications to Lists Message-ID: <20020822232003.C35128@numeri.campus.luth.se> References: <20020513234415.C55256@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020513234415.C55256@blossom.cjclark.org>; from crist.clark@attbi.com on Mon, May 13, 2002 at 11:44:15PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-bugbusters@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I do not think this has been fixed yet. Another problem with the summery mails is that the mails only contains the problem that are actually assigned to the short name instead of the full name of the mailing list. For example, 'freebsd-qa' is assigned a bunch of PRs and 'qa' is assigned 5 open PRs. Only the ones assigned to 'qa' is reported in the summery mail. There are two solutions to this problem 1: (the correct fix IMO is to) change the script that send the summery mail to also include PR assigned to the full name. 2: reassign all PR that are assigned to freebsd-xxx to xxx. This should not be done for xxx={bugs,docs,ports} since those are handled correctly by the script. I have not been able to find the script but if someone tells me where it is I can have a look at it and see if I can modify it. Take care /Johan On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 23:44 (-0700) +0000, Crist J. Clark wrote: > I just wanted to ask if anyone was on this bug. Some FreeBSD lists > are getting 'Current problem reports assigned to you' mails. Now, if > they actually contained some PRs, this would be understandable and > useful, but there are no PRs assigned to the list. > > Anyone figured out why this is happening? How to fix? Has it been > fixed? Thought I'd ask before I dig in. > -- > Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu > | cjclark@jhu.edu > http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugbusters" in the body of the message -- Johan Karlsson mailto:johan@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugbusters" in the body of the message