From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 0:42:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B7937B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snapple.webct.com (snapple.webct.com [209.87.17.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAB443E75 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:42:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from varju@snapple.webct.com) Received: from snapple.webct.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snapple.webct.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9D7gRPT072746; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:42:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from varju@snapple.webct.com) Received: (from varju@localhost) by snapple.webct.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9D7gRBb072745; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:42:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Varju X-X-Sender: varju@snapple.webct.com To: Steve Kargl Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic during boot In-Reply-To: <20021013005149.GA1220@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Message-ID: <20021013003957.B72731-100000@snapple.webct.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 12 Oct 2002, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 05:21:01PM -0700, Alex Varju wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > For the last few days, I have been unable to build a bootable kernel. I > > have gone back to GENERIC, and it still doesn't work. When I try to boot, > > it panics almost immediately. Can anybody offer any suggestions for where > > to start diagnosing this? > > Disable acpi. You can do this from the boot loader > by doing > > set hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" > > I have an ASUS A7V-133 that simply will not use acpi. Hi Steve, Thanks for the suggestion. I also have an ASUS motherboard (CUSL2), so it seems plausible that this could be a problem. Booting without acpi, things get a bit further, then die. I get the following: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Oct 12 16:16:49 PDT 2002 varju@alex.madd.tnmc.ca:/home/freebsd/obj/home/freebsd/src.HEAD/sys/GENERIC Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc0660000. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 804025134 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (804.03-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 536784896 (524204K bytes) avail memory = 514215936 (502164K bytes) Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Using $PIR table, 10 entries at 0xc00f1360 pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 fxp0: port 0xd800-0xd83f mem 0xf3800000-0xf38fffff,0xf4000000-0xf4000fff irq 9 at device 10.0 on pci2 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:be:13:f1 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto Memory modified after free 0xc40c1000(32764) panic: Most recently used by bus Debugger("panic") Stopped at Debugger+0x54: xchgl %ebx,in_Debugger.0 db> t Debugger(c04b657b,c0563980,c04d06db,c0682a24,1) at Debugger+0x54 panic(c04d06db,c04b78b9,7ffc,c1e0ca00,c1564ae8) at panic+0xab mtrash_ctor(c40c1000,8000,0,533,0) at mtrash_ctor+0x5d uma_zalloc_arg(c1564a00,0,5,1000,c1564a00) at uma_zalloc_arg+0x147 malloc(4a7c,c05134c0,5,6,c1569670) at malloc+0x75 device_set_driver(c1580800,c04f1b68,c1569680,0,0) at device_set_driver+0xb0 device_probe_child(c1580a00,c1580800,c04e4540,c02455be,c157f680) at device_probe_child+0x91 device_probe_and_attach(c1580800,2,c0682b48,c0245744,c1580a00) at device_probe_and_attach+0x53 bus_generic_attach(c1580a00,2,58,c0682b38,c1580a00,2) at bus_generic_attach+0x28 pci_attach(c1580a00,c1580a00,c157f680,c049e108,2) at pci_attach+0xa4 device_probe_and_attach(c1580a00,c157f680,c0682ba0,c02472c6,c157f680) at device_probe_and_attach+0xb0 bus_generic_attach(c157f680,c049e108,2,c157f680,c0682bd0) at bus_generic_attach+0x28 pcib_attach(c157f680,c157f680,c04e4540,c02455be,c157fa00) at pcib_attach+0x46 device_probe_and_attach(c157f680,0,c0682c0c,c0245744,c157f980) at device_probe_and_attach+0xb0 bus_generic_attach(c157f980,0,58,c0682bfc,c157f980,0) at bus_generic_attach+0x28 pci_attach(c157f980,c3fea098,c04e4540,c04da0af,0) at pci_attach+0xa4 device_probe_and_attach(c157f980,c4084070,c0682c78,c0460e2d,c157fa00) at device_probe_and_attach+0xb0 bus_generic_attach(c157fa00,c04da0af,0,c0682c68,c157fa00) at bus_generic_attach+0x28 nexus_pcib_attach(c157fa00,c4098098,c04e4540,c1569ac0,c05300c0) at nexus_pcib_attach+0x8d device_probe_and_attach(c157fa00,c157fb00,c0682cdc,c044fa1c,c157fb00) at device_probe_and_attach+0xb0 bus_generic_attach(c157fb00,0,c1569bf0,c408a400,c157fb00) at bus_generic_attach+0x28 legacy_attach(c157fb00,c4084098,c04e4540,c409d1e0,c1569b10) at legacy_attach+0x1c device_probe_and_attach(c157fb00,c157fd80,c0682d2c,c04534cc,c157fd80) at device_probe_and_attach+0xb0 bus_generic_attach(c157fd80,c157fd80,c0682d5c,c02f02d0,c157fd80) at bus_generic_attach+0x28 nexus_attach(c157fd80,c407e098,c04e4540,c04d34d7,0) at nexus_attach+0x1c device_probe_and_attach(c157fd80,c04dd664,c0682d80,c0445535,c1580000) at device_probe_and_attach+0xb0 root_bus_configure(c1580000,c04d34d7,0,c0682d98,c02b91a5) at root_bus_configure+0x28 configure(0,67f000,67fc00,67f000,0) at configure+0x35 mi_startup() at mi_startup+0xb5 begin() at begin+0x2c db> -- alex varju just a guy webct canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 1:23: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DFE37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 01:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1578843E91 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 01:23:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hm@kts.org) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 180e1c-0008Vk-02; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 10:23:00 +0200 Received: from ernie.kts.org (520021727764-0001@[217.5.38.166]) by fmrl03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 180e1R-0mAJ8KC; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 10:22:49 +0200 Received: from bert.kts.org (bert.kts.org [194.55.156.2]) by ernie.kts.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F7F4C96C for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 10:22:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: by bert.kts.org (Postfix, from userid 100) id BDB7454C4; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 10:22:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Unknown symbol "__sF" To: FreeBSD-current Mailinglist Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 10:22:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL99b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20021013082248.BDB7454C4@bert.kts.org> From: hm@kts.org (Hellmuth Michaelis) X-Sender: 520021727764-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Had a very bad night after upgrading my main machine from a September-based current to a -current as of yesterday, for many, many of the programs running on that machine i got an error message like /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: ..... Unknown symbol "__sF" which somehow came from this ancient library in /usr/lib: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 11 Mar 29 2002 libgcc.so -> libgcc.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 21343 Apr 4 1999 libgcc.so.2 moving the libraries out of the way just gave an error about not finding libgcc.so.2. One of the affected programs was postfix. After nothing helped, i installed a complete fresh ports tree and recompiled postfix-current, but when make installing it, even there it complained about Unknown symbol "__sF" and i was not able to install it. Luckily i had saved the /usr/obj and /usr/src, downgrading to the old current stopped the nightmare and i'm writing this again from the September-based current. Is there help in sight or do i have to do a complete, fresh reinstall on this machine (Oh nooooo .... ;-) ) ? tired, hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Hamburg, Europe hm@kts.org www.kts.org There is a difference between an open mind and a hole in the head. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 1:38:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD3A37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 01:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-88.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652F943E91 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 01:38:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9E74166E58; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 01:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 01:38:12 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Hellmuth Michaelis Cc: FreeBSD-current Mailinglist Subject: HEADS UP: Port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") Message-ID: <20021013083812.GA9050@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20021013082248.BDB7454C4@bert.kts.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021013082248.BDB7454C4@bert.kts.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:22:48AM +0200, Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: >=20 > Had a very bad night after upgrading my main machine from a September-bas= ed > current to a -current as of yesterday, for many, many of the programs > running on that machine i got an error message like Peter removed the stdio transitional aid for older -current systems. This means that older 5.0 libraries are no longer compatible with the new 5.0 libc, and you will need to recompile everything that depends on them. 4.x applications (i.e. things that link with libc.so.4) should be unaffected. This is a required change for 5.0-RELEASE. Doing a 'make world' followed by 'portupgrade -a -f' should be sufficient to rebuild everything correctly. Alternatively, I'll have new packages built in a few days, and you could just reinstall your packages with those. Kris --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9qTDzWry0BWjoQKURAi86AKCdD60oUzo17Fk2gmqNXs/Vpw0DpACg72wa NZi6fmdFg75P8yavhz9+Rgo= =IwH0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 2:38: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8277A37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 02:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-88.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36AF43EA3 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 02:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 25CC766C7B; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 02:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 02:38:02 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Hellmuth Michaelis , FreeBSD-current Mailinglist Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") Message-ID: <20021013093802.GA9872@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20021013082248.BDB7454C4@bert.kts.org> <20021013083812.GA9050@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021013083812.GA9050@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 01:38:12AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:22:48AM +0200, Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > >=20 > > Had a very bad night after upgrading my main machine from a September-b= ased > > current to a -current as of yesterday, for many, many of the programs > > running on that machine i got an error message like >=20 > Peter removed the stdio transitional aid for older -current systems. > This means that older 5.0 libraries are no longer compatible with the > new 5.0 libc, and you will need to recompile everything that depends > on them. 4.x applications (i.e. things that link with libc.so.4) > should be unaffected. >=20 > This is a required change for 5.0-RELEASE. >=20 > Doing a 'make world' followed by 'portupgrade -a -f' should be > sufficient to rebuild everything correctly. Alternatively, I'll have > new packages built in a few days, and you could just reinstall your > packages with those. Actually, this should only be required for old ports (older than some date which I don't know off-hand). It might be easier to just rebuild everything though. Kris --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9qT76Wry0BWjoQKURAnpoAKDBO1v4xDxmcfD1nVXfha3DqOjThgCg5aJ5 ILhlLrDofp3R5y5zL2HR6wE= =d1xU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 2:40: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B59937B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 02:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-88.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F1643E75 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 02:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1B80366C7B; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 02:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 02:40:02 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jeff Roberson Cc: Kris Kennaway , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: current unable to exec processes under load Message-ID: <20021013094002.GA9921@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20021012213213.GC93425@xor.obsecurity.org> <20021013001013.N30714-100000@mail.chesapeake.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021013001013.N30714-100000@mail.chesapeake.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 12:12:43AM -0400, Jeff Roberson wrote: > Can you back out my scheduler changes just to be sure? I can not foresee > any way that they could cause this, but I'd like to be certain. Blocking > on inode usually indicates a vfs deadlock. Can you break into ddb and > type 'show lockedvnods' and paste me that output? Actually, can I extract this information from gdb and a crashdump? I don't yet have a serial console set up on this box. Kris --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9qT9xWry0BWjoQKURAiUyAKCtGJ8HV/x9CeCmQ+2QHQ3dl8YelgCg95uJ UGfLTSKn3hk+2YWNwwpa3Yg= =XE5n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 3:45:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3330837B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 03:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gt3.OntheNet.com.au (nt.com.au [203.13.70.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6DB43E91; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 03:45:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-203-45-245-212.qld.bigpond.net.au [203.45.245.212]) by gt3.OntheNet.com.au (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g9DB0SR38949; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:00:28 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3DA94F6F.4D7A5C79@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:48:15 +1000 From: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cheap power-pc platform on eBay... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > There are quite a number of these gadgets on eBay right now, they would > probably make a cheap entry-level platform for powerpc work: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2059912083 For the budget-conscious developer, I'd recommend the Apple 'Beige' G3. Not much more expensive than this one on auction sites, and will be supported by FreeBSD/PPC in the near future. later, Peter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 3:56:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BBC37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 03:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101FE43E7B for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 03:56:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0024.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.24] helo=mindspring.com) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 180gPk-0000na-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 03:56:04 -0700 Message-ID: <3DA950FC.A8B22B3F@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 03:54:52 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Hellmuth Michaelis , FreeBSD-current Mailinglist Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") References: <20021013082248.BDB7454C4@bert.kts.org> <20021013083812.GA9050@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:22:48AM +0200, Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > > Had a very bad night after upgrading my main machine from a September-based > > current to a -current as of yesterday, for many, many of the programs > > running on that machine i got an error message like > > Peter removed the stdio transitional aid for older -current systems. > This means that older 5.0 libraries are no longer compatible with the > new 5.0 libc, and you will need to recompile everything that depends > on them. 4.x applications (i.e. things that link with libc.so.4) > should be unaffected. The "resize" program and other X11 programs break because of the changes in this area: % resize /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5: \ Undefined symbol "__stdoutp" > This is a required change for 5.0-RELEASE. So's the bumping of the version numbers on the libraries whose interfaces have been changed -- both producer (libc) and consumer (libncurses). This also means libncurses needs to be part of the "compat4.x" that comes with 5.x. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 3:57: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB98537B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 03:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beast.freebsd.org (beast.freebsd.org [216.136.204.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0E643E9C for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 03:56:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@FreeBSD.org) Received: from beast.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beast.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9DAurP8037753 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 03:56:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@beast.freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by beast.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9DAurqg037751 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 03:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 03:56:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Message-Id: <200210131056.g9DAurqg037751@beast.freebsd.org> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: alpha tinderbox failure Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: build tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 3: cross tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/alpha/obj/h/des/src/alpha/usr/include -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: building libraries -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: make dependencies -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: building everything.. -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Sun Oct 13 03:49:21 PDT 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------- ===> vinum /h/des/src/sys/kern/kern_mib.c:116: `_KPOSIX_VERSION' undeclared here (not in a function) /h/des/src/sys/kern/kern_mib.c:116: initializer element is not constant /h/des/src/sys/kern/kern_mib.c:116: (near initialization for `sysctl___kern_posix1version.oid_arg2') *** Error code 1 Stop in /h/des/obj/h/des/src/sys/GENERIC. *** Error code 1 Stop in /h/des/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /h/des/src. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 4: 3:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D9937B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5679B43E91 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:03:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0024.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.24] helo=mindspring.com) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 180gWW-0004Ss-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:03:04 -0700 Message-ID: <3DA952A1.8530348F@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:01:53 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Hellmuth Michaelis , FreeBSD-current Mailinglist Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") References: <20021013082248.BDB7454C4@bert.kts.org> <20021013083812.GA9050@xor.obsecurity.org> <20021013093802.GA9872@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > Actually, this should only be required for old ports (older than some > date which I don't know off-hand). It might be easier to just rebuild > everything though. This would be OK, if the X11 package came from the FreeBSD source tree, instead of just as a binary on the CDROM (I hate that upgrading a box breaks things... it should *never* break things, as long as you don't tell it to remove old libraries). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 4:14:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A48737B40B for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AFD43E75 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:14:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g9DBDSW02505; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 01:13:28 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 01:13:28 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Terry Lambert Cc: Kris Kennaway , Hellmuth Michaelis , FreeBSD-current Mailinglist Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") In-Reply-To: <3DA952A1.8530348F@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20021013011149.W65899-100000@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Actually, this should only be required for old ports (older than some > > date which I don't know off-hand). It might be easier to just rebuild > > everything though. > > This would be OK, if the X11 package came from the FreeBSD source > tree, instead of just as a binary on the CDROM (I hate that upgrading > a box breaks things... it should *never* break things, as long as you > don't tell it to remove old libraries). Not to mention it's easier said than done to recompile all packages since I have a hard enough time trying to figure out and keep track of all ports than have been updated or has changes committed. It would be easy if it was a dozen packages or the entire ports collection but if it's only 1,000 packages, recompiling them will take forever assuming you ever know which packages are installed. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 4:19:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFE037B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-88.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42C243E75 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:19:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2720466C7B; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:19:33 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Terry Lambert Cc: Kris Kennaway , Hellmuth Michaelis , FreeBSD-current Mailinglist Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") Message-ID: <20021013111933.GA12332@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20021013082248.BDB7454C4@bert.kts.org> <20021013083812.GA9050@xor.obsecurity.org> <20021013093802.GA9872@xor.obsecurity.org> <3DA952A1.8530348F@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DA952A1.8530348F@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 04:01:53AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Actually, this should only be required for old ports (older than some > > date which I don't know off-hand). It might be easier to just rebuild > > everything though. >=20 > This would be OK, if the X11 package came from the FreeBSD source > tree, instead of just as a binary on the CDROM (I hate that upgrading > a box breaks things... it should *never* break things, as long as you > don't tell it to remove old libraries). If you can't deal with having to recompile things over the -current development cycle then don't run it. Kris --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9qVbEWry0BWjoQKURAidEAKDOW95liQAAkuooirTjMyhjV2cYxwCdHttp d9wZBKhQUL/gq71wsNdJjzk= =0mdO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 4:29:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075FA37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B10D43E4A for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:29:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0024.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.24] helo=mindspring.com) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 180gvz-0000Xy-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:29:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3DA9589F.C115181@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:27:27 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Hellmuth Michaelis , FreeBSD-current Mailinglist Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") References: <20021013082248.BDB7454C4@bert.kts.org> <20021013083812.GA9050@xor.obsecurity.org> <20021013093802.GA9872@xor.obsecurity.org> <3DA952A1.8530348F@mindspring.com> <20021013111933.GA12332@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 04:01:53AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > Actually, this should only be required for old ports (older than some > > > date which I don't know off-hand). It might be easier to just rebuild > > > everything though. > > > > This would be OK, if the X11 package came from the FreeBSD source > > tree, instead of just as a binary on the CDROM (I hate that upgrading > > a box breaks things... it should *never* break things, as long as you > > don't tell it to remove old libraries). > > If you can't deal with having to recompile things over the -current > development cycle then don't run it. Uh, the issue was the upcoming 5.0 release, which will cause these same problems for people. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 5:11:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E89337B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MX1.estpak.ee (ld1.estpak.ee [194.126.101.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C6543E77; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:11:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kalts@estpak.ee) Received: from tiiu.internal (adsl5981.estpak.ee [213.219.72.3]) by MX1.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id B993588873; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:10:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: from tiiu.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiiu.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9DCB9R8004889; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:11:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from vallo@tiiu.internal) Received: (from vallo@localhost) by tiiu.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9DCB9rk004888; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:11:09 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:11:08 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Mike Barcroft Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, anholt@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: imake-4 build broken Message-ID: <20021013121108.GA4843@tiiu.internal> Reply-To: kalts@estpak.ee References: <20021010192039.GA21880@myhakas.internal> <20021010200300.S97120@espresso.q9media.com> <20021011063441.GA1267@tiiu.internal> <20021012203152.A22208@espresso.q9media.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021012203152.A22208@espresso.q9media.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i-ja.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 08:31:52PM -0400, Mike Barcroft wrote: > > > I don't really understand how this is happening. The uses of NSIG are > > > also conditionalized. If _POSIX_SOURCE is defined, line 46 should not > > > be visible. What rev is your /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h and > > > /usr/include/signal.h? > > > > /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h: > > $FreeBSD: src/sys/sys/cdefs.h,v 1.67 2002/10/07 02:50:44 mike Exp $ > > $FreeBSD: src/sys/sys/cdefs.h,v 1.67 2002/10/07 02:50:44 mike Exp $ > > > > /usr/include/signal.h: > > $FreeBSD: src/include/signal.h,v 1.19 2002/10/06 21:54:08 mike Exp $ > > > > The same error happens several times down the road of XFree86-4 port > > compilation and all the problematic source files contain > > #include surrounded by _POSIX_SOURCE. Removing this > > _POSIX_SOURCE thing got the XFree86-4 port compile to me. > > I've just committed the rest of my -related patches, can you > update your system and let me know if I've fixed the problem. Yes it's fixed now, I've restarted the ports building from scratch and it did over imake-4 just minutes ago. No info for the whole XFree86-4 yet, but it's the same I guess. Thanks for your hard work -- Vallo Kallaste kalts@estpak.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 5:27:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C072237B404; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts25.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C2843E88; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:27:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sparc64.style9.org) Received: from bowie.private ([65.93.75.132]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021013122738.NPZE8507.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@bowie.private>; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:27:38 -0400 Received: from bowie.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bowie.private (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9DCS6qK037990; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:28:06 GMT (envelope-from mike@bowie.private) Received: (from mike@localhost) by bowie.private (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9DCS5Un037988; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:28:05 GMT Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:28:05 GMT From: Mike Barcroft Message-Id: <200210131228.g9DCS5Un037988@bowie.private> To: current@FreeBSD.org, sparc64@FreeBSD.org Subject: sparc64 tinderbox failure Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: build tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 3: cross tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: populating /tinderbox/sparc64/obj/tinderbox/sparc64/src/sparc64/usr/include -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: building libraries -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: make dependencies -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: building everything.. -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Sun Oct 13 12:22:09 GMT 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------- ===> ipfilter In file included from @/sys/signal.h:47, from @/sys/proc.h:52, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_compat.h:596, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/mlfk_ipl.c:50: machine/signal.h:49:12: #if with no expression In file included from @/sys/signal.h:47, from @/sys/proc.h:52, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_compat.h:596, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_nat.c:95: machine/signal.h:49:12: #if with no expression In file included from @/sys/signal.h:47, from @/sys/proc.h:52, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_compat.h:596, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_frag.c:65: machine/signal.h:49:12: #if with no expression In file included from @/sys/signal.h:47, from @/sys/proc.h:52, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_compat.h:596, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_state.c:78: machine/signal.h:49:12: #if with no expression In file included from @/sys/signal.h:47, from @/sys/proc.h:52, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_compat.h:596, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_proxy.c:68: machine/signal.h:49:12: #if with no expression In file included from @/sys/signal.h:47, from @/sys/proc.h:52, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_compat.h:596, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_auth.c:88: machine/signal.h:49:12: #if with no expression In file included from @/sys/signal.h:47, from @/sys/proc.h:52, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_compat.h:596, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_log.c:112: machine/signal.h:49:12: #if with no expression In file included from @/sys/signal.h:47, from @/sys/proc.h:52, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_compat.h:596, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:97: machine/signal.h:49:12: #if with no expression In file included from @/sys/signal.h:47, from @/sys/proc.h:52, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_compat.h:596, from /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/fil.c:73: machine/signal.h:49:12: #if with no expression mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/modules/ipfilter. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/sparc64/obj/tinderbox/sparc64/src/sys/GENERIC. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/sparc64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/sparc64/src. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 5:35: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A2437B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEF743E77 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:34:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g9DCWE436253; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:32:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:32:14 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Terry Lambert Cc: Kris Kennaway , Hellmuth Michaelis , FreeBSD-current Mailinglist Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") Message-ID: <20021013123214.GA35585@sunbay.com> References: <20021013082248.BDB7454C4@bert.kts.org> <20021013083812.GA9050@xor.obsecurity.org> <20021013093802.GA9872@xor.obsecurity.org> <3DA952A1.8530348F@mindspring.com> <20021013111933.GA12332@xor.obsecurity.org> <3DA9589F.C115181@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DA9589F.C115181@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 04:27:27AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 04:01:53AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > Actually, this should only be required for old ports (older than so= me > > > > date which I don't know off-hand). It might be easier to just rebu= ild > > > > everything though. > > > > > > This would be OK, if the X11 package came from the FreeBSD source > > > tree, instead of just as a binary on the CDROM (I hate that upgrading > > > a box breaks things... it should *never* break things, as long as you > > > don't tell it to remove old libraries). > >=20 > > If you can't deal with having to recompile things over the -current > > development cycle then don't run it. >=20 >=20 > Uh, the issue was the upcoming 5.0 release, which will cause these > same problems for people. >=20 As Kris already mentioned in the unquoted part of his original email, this does not affect RELENG_4 binaries. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9qWfOUkv4P6juNwoRAsFdAJ4uWC1iuZd/i+bPpb9sFKr8atCJ8wCghdMN BRxSFAlcZUVlEWs2sbz+jq0= =CiNv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 5:43:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7652437B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dev.bsdnerds.org (lsanca2-ar31-4-33-246-189.lsanca2.dsl-verizon.net [4.33.246.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25A243E42; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:43:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tr0n@dev.bsdnerds.org) Received: from dev.bsdnerds.org (tr0n@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dev.bsdnerds.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9DCiME5062886; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:44:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tr0n@dev.bsdnerds.org) Received: (from tr0n@localhost) by dev.bsdnerds.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9DCiLuG062885; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: alpha tinderbox failure From: Mega Tr0n Reply-To: tr0n@bsdnerds.org To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: freebsd-current In-Reply-To: <200210131056.g9DAurqg037751@beast.freebsd.org> References: <200210131056.g9DAurqg037751@beast.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 13 Oct 2002 05:44:21 -0700 Message-Id: <1034513061.416.10.camel@dev.bsdnerds.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got the same error on my laptop after cvsuping today. Been reluctant to after all the talk of recompiles and the kde stability problems, but gave in after trying to install a port and remembering they switched it back to tgz On Sun, 2002-10-13 at 03:56, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 2: build tools > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 3: cross tools > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/alpha/obj/h/des/src/alpha/usr/include > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 4: building libraries > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 4: make dependencies > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 4: building everything.. > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Sun Oct 13 03:49:21 PDT 2002 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ===> vinum > /h/des/src/sys/kern/kern_mib.c:116: `_KPOSIX_VERSION' undeclared here (not in a function) > /h/des/src/sys/kern/kern_mib.c:116: initializer element is not constant > /h/des/src/sys/kern/kern_mib.c:116: (near initialization for `sysctl___kern_posix1version.oid_arg2') > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /h/des/obj/h/des/src/sys/GENERIC. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /h/des/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /h/des/src. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 5:46:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6314537B404 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abyssinian.sleepycat.com (abyssinian.sleepycat.com [199.103.242.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C38543E6A for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:46:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bostic@abyssinian.sleepycat.com) Received: (from bostic@localhost) by abyssinian.sleepycat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g9DCkoN14388; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:46:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Keith Bostic Message-Id: <200210131246.g9DCkoN14388@abyssinian.sleepycat.com> To: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: Re: coredumps with ex(1) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm able to cause ex to null pointer deref with random (garbage) > input..is anyone interested in the tracebacks? Sure, I would be -- although the input is more interesting to me than the stack trace. I won't do anything with it immediately, though. Regards, --keith =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Keith Bostic Sleepycat Software Inc. bostic@sleepycat.com 118 Tower Rd. +1-781-259-3139 Lincoln, MA 01773 http://www.sleepycat.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 5:47:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25BA37B404; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dev.bsdnerds.org (lsanca2-ar31-4-33-246-189.lsanca2.dsl-verizon.net [4.33.246.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E37143E6A; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:47:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tr0n@dev.bsdnerds.org) Received: from dev.bsdnerds.org (tr0n@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dev.bsdnerds.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9DCmCE5067427; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:48:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tr0n@dev.bsdnerds.org) Received: (from tr0n@localhost) by dev.bsdnerds.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9DCm90p067426; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: alpha tinderbox failure From: Mega Tr0n Reply-To: tr0n@bsdnerds.org To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <200210131056.g9DAurqg037751@beast.freebsd.org> References: <200210131056.g9DAurqg037751@beast.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 13 Oct 2002 05:48:08 -0700 Message-Id: <1034513288.416.12.camel@dev.bsdnerds.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG nm looks like it was just fixed. I'll give it another whirl :) sorry On Sun, 2002-10-13 at 03:56, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 2: build tools > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 3: cross tools > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/alpha/obj/h/des/src/alpha/usr/include > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 4: building libraries > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 4: make dependencies > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 4: building everything.. > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Sun Oct 13 03:49:21 PDT 2002 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ===> vinum > /h/des/src/sys/kern/kern_mib.c:116: `_KPOSIX_VERSION' undeclared here (not in a function) > /h/des/src/sys/kern/kern_mib.c:116: initializer element is not constant > /h/des/src/sys/kern/kern_mib.c:116: (near initialization for `sysctl___kern_posix1version.oid_arg2') > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /h/des/obj/h/des/src/sys/GENERIC. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /h/des/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /h/des/src. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 6:30:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D843337B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 06:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nic-naa.net (216-220-241-233.midmaine.com [216.220.241.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFA343E7B for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 06:30:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Received: from nic-naa.net (localhost.nic-naa.net [127.0.0.1]) by nic-naa.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9DD0Cpt014926; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 09:00:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Message-Id: <200210131300.g9DD0Cpt014926@nic-naa.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Keith Bostic Cc: kris@obsecurity.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, brunner@nic-naa.net Subject: Re: coredumps with ex(1) In-Reply-To: Message from Keith Bostic of "Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:46:50 EDT." <200210131246.g9DCkoN14388@abyssinian.sleepycat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 09:00:12 -0400 From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ditto. Same caveats as well. -- Eric Brunner-Williams wampumpeag, llc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 6:48:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0295737B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 06:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A80143E4A; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 06:48:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g9DDkYn42211; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:46:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:46:34 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "David O'Brien" , Alexander Kabaev Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: alpha can't cross-compile i386 Message-ID: <20021013134634.GB35585@sunbay.com> References: <20020801124807.A11058@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020801120738.GA26622@sunbay.com> <20020801195936.A12267@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020802165525.GA80884@sunbay.com> <20020802205245.A16184@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020805184000.GA53697@sunbay.com> <20020806161928.A9273@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020807091602.GA52251@sunbay.com> <20020807105144.GA68121@sunbay.com> <20020807150411.GA36526@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020807150411.GA36526@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The situation did not change during the last two months, even with the latest GCC imports. beast.FreeBSD.org still blows up attempting to build world and kernel for i386: : -------------------------------------------------------------- : >>> stage 4: building everything.. : -------------------------------------------------------------- : cd /j/ru/src-5; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D/j/ru/obj/i386 MACHINE_ARCH=3Di386 M= ACHINE=3Di386 CPUTYPE=3D GROFF_BIN_PATH=3D/j/ru/obj/i386/j/ru/src-5/alpha= /usr/bin GROFF_FONT_PATH=3D/j/ru/obj/i386/j/ru/src-5/alpha/usr/share/groff= _font GROFF_TMAC_PATH=3D/j/ru/obj/i386/j/ru/src-5/alpha/usr/share/tmac DE= STDIR=3D/j/ru/obj/i386/j/ru/src-5/alpha INSTALL=3D"sh /j/ru/src-5/tools/in= stall.sh" PATH=3D/j/ru/obj/i386/j/ru/src-5/alpha/usr/sbin:/j/ru/obj/i386/j= /ru/src-5/alpha/usr/bin:/j/ru/obj/i386/j/ru/src-5/alpha/usr/games:/sbin:/bi= n:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -f Makefile.inc1 all [...] : =3D=3D=3D> usr.bin/getconf : cc -O -pipe -mcpu=3Dpentiumpro -I/j/ru/src-5/usr.bin/getconf -c limits= .c : {standard input}: Assembler messages: : {standard input}:334: Error: bignum invalid : *** Error code 1 :=20 : Stop in /j/ru/src-5/usr.bin/getconf. : *** Error code 1 The difference between the native i386 assembler output and the output from the i386 cross-compiler for the limits.c is as follows: --- limits.s (alpha->i386) Sun Oct 13 15:57:20 2002 +++ limits.s (i386 native) Sun Oct 13 16:02:15 2002 @@ -331,10 +331,10 @@ .quad -2147483648 .long 1 .long .LC55 - .quad -9223372036854775808 + .quad 0x8000000000000000 .long 1 .long .LC56 - .quad 9223372036854775807 + .quad 0x7fffffffffffffff .long 1 .long .LC57 .quad 0 @@ -367,13 +367,13 @@ .quad 255 .long 1 .long .LC67 - .quad 4294967295 + .quad 0xffffffff .long 1 .long .LC68 .quad -1 .long 1 .long .LC69 - .quad 4294967295 + .quad 0xffffffff .long 1 .long .LC70 .quad 65535 : -------------------------------------------------------------- : >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Sun Oct 13 05:25:16 PDT 2002 : -------------------------------------------------------------- : =3D=3D=3D> GENERIC [...] : cd /j/ru/obj/i386/j/ru/src-5/sys/GENERIC; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D/j/ru/obj/i= 386 MACHINE_ARCH=3Di386 MACHINE=3Di386 CPUTYPE=3D GROFF_BIN_PATH=3D/j/r= u/obj/i386/j/ru/src-5/alpha/usr/bin GROFF_FONT_PATH=3D/j/ru/obj/i386/j/ru/= src-5/alpha/usr/share/groff_font GROFF_TMAC_PATH=3D/j/ru/obj/i386/j/ru/src= -5/alpha/usr/share/tmac DESTDIR=3D/j/ru/obj/i386/j/ru/src-5/alpha INSTALL= =3D"sh /j/ru/src-5/tools/install.sh" PATH=3D/j/ru/obj/i386/j/ru/src-5/alph= a/usr/sbin:/j/ru/obj/i386/j/ru/src-5/alpha/usr/bin:/j/ru/obj/i386/j/ru/src-= 5/alpha/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make KERNEL=3Dkernel all [...] : cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=3Dpentiumpro -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-extern= s -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast= -qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/j/ru/src-5/sys -I= /j/ru/src-5/sys/dev -I/j/ru/src-5/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/j/ru/src-5/sys/= contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -mno-align-lo= ng-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3D2 -ffreestanding -Werror /j/ru/src= -5/sys/dev/advansys/adw_pci.c : {standard input}: Assembler messages: : {standard input}:22: Error: bignum invalid : {standard input}:28: Error: bignum invalid : *** Error code 1 :=20 : Stop in /j/ru/obj/i386/j/ru/src-5/sys/GENERIC. : *** Error code 1 On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 06:04:11PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 01:51:44PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 12:16:02PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > [...] > > > Wilko, > > >=20 > > > I am unable to cross-build i386 on alpha due to this bug in gcc. > > > Native compiler has no problem building the generated cgram.c, > > > and I have verified that native and cross compilers produce the > > > same cgram.c output. Perhaps, David could shed some light on > > > this, and even probably fix it: > > >=20 > > > %%% > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>> stage 4: building everything.. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D/usr/obj/i386 MACHINE_ARCH=3Di386 M= ACHINE=3Di386 CPUTYPE=3D OBJFORMAT_PATH=3D/usr/obj/i386/usr/src/alpha/usr= /libexec GROFF_BIN_PATH=3D/usr/obj/i386/usr/src/alpha/usr/bin GROFF_FONT_= PATH=3D/usr/obj/i386/usr/src/alpha/usr/share/groff_font GROFF_TMAC_PATH=3D= /usr/obj/i386/usr/src/alpha/usr/share/tmac DESTDIR=3D/usr/obj/i386/usr/src= /alpha INSTALL=3D"sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh" PATH=3D/usr/obj/i386/usr/= src/alpha/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/i386/usr/src/alpha/usr/bin:/usr/obj/i386/usr/sr= c/alpha/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -f Makefile.inc1 all > > > =3D=3D=3D> share/info > > > [...] > > > =3D=3D=3D> usr.bin/xlint/lint1 > > > cc -O -pipe -mcpu=3Dpentiumpro -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint1 -I/= usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint1/../arch/i386 -I/usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint1/../= common -c cgram.c > > > cc -O -pipe -mcpu=3Dpentiumpro -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint1 -I/= usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint1/../arch/i386 -I/usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint1/../= common -c scan.c > > > gzip -cn lint.7 > lint.7.gz > > > groff -Tascii -mtty-char -man -t lint.7 | gzip -cn > lint.7.cat.gz > > > /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint1/cgram.y: In function `toicon': > > > /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint1/cgram.y:1711: unrecognizable insn: > > > (insn 247 219 248 (set (reg:CC 17 flags) > > > (compare:CC (subreg:SI (reg/v:DI 75) 0) > > > (const_int 2147483648 [0x80000000]))) -1 (nil) > > > (expr_list:REG_DEAD (reg/v:DI 75) > > > (nil))) > > > /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint1/cgram.y:1711: Internal compiler error in= extract_insn, at recog.c:2150 > > > Please submit a full bug report, > > > with preprocessed source if appropriate. > > > See for instructions. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > 1 error > > > %%% > > >=20 > > > Meanwhile, I will temporary remove usr.bin/xlint from the build, and > > > resume the i386 release building on ds10. > > >=20 > > While attempting to cross-compile kernel, it bombs out with, attempting > > to build `random' module like this: > >=20 > > =3D=3D=3D> random > > cc -O -pipe -mcpu=3Dpentiumpro -I/usr/src/sys/modules/random/../.. -D_= KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmiss= ing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wno-format -ansi -DKL= D_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I/usr/src/sys/modules/random/../.. -I. -I@ -I@/dev= -I@/../include -fno-common -g -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3D2 -ffreestandin= g -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-p= rototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wno-format -ansi -c /usr/s= rc/sys/crypto/sha2/sha2.c > > {standard input}: Assembler messages: > > {standard input}:97: Error: bignum invalid > > {standard input}:98: Error: bignum invalid > > {standard input}:101: Error: bignum invalid > >=20 > > Excluding it as well... :( > >=20 > I see the same symptoms on beast.FreeBSD.org running fresh 5.0-CURRENT, > so the problem is not unique to your DS10 host. >=20 > Excluding "random" module did not help; buildkernel died similarly > later: >=20 > : cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=3Dpentiumpro -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-exte= rns -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wca= st-qual -Wno-format -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/= sys/dev -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -= I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -mpr= eferred-stack-boundary=3D2 -ffreestanding -Werror /usr/src/sys/dev/advansy= s/adw_pci.c > : {standard input}: Assembler messages: > : {standard input}:24: Error: bignum invalid > : {standard input}:30: Error: bignum invalid > : *** Error code 1 > : Stop in /usr/obj/i386/usr/src/sys/GENERIC. > : *** Error code 1 >=20 > David, can you please look into this? --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9qXk6Ukv4P6juNwoRAtUNAJ0RuSHLdIncXPOqzukMWzBUe1PU9wCfQ93y OtpHYA8GNSds6Nl4yfdc6+c= =BKvg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 8:11:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB8637B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mckinley.corp.yahoo.com (mckinley.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.62.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CE343E8A; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:11:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@mckinley.corp.yahoo.com) Received: from mckinley.corp.yahoo.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mckinley.corp.yahoo.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9DF82Lb028759; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@mckinley.corp.yahoo.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by mckinley.corp.yahoo.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id g9DF82ci028757; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:08:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <200210131508.g9DF82ci028757@mckinley.corp.yahoo.com> To: current@freebsd.org, ia64@freebsd.org Subject: ia64 tinderbox failure Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: build tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 3: cross tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: populating /home/tinderbox/ia64/obj/home/tinderbox/ia64/src/ia64/usr/include -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: building libraries -------------------------------------------------------------- ===> gnu/lib/libgcc /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/contrib/gcc/config/ia64/unwind-ia64.c:242:1: warning: "MIN" redefined In file included from /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/contrib/gcc/config/freebsd-spec.h:157, from tconfig.h:14, from /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/contrib/gcc/config/ia64/unwind-ia64.c:34: /home/tinderbox/ia64/obj/home/tinderbox/ia64/src/ia64/usr/include/sys/param.h:256:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from /home/tinderbox/ia64/obj/home/tinderbox/ia64/src/ia64/usr/include/sys/signal.h:47, from /home/tinderbox/ia64/obj/home/tinderbox/ia64/src/ia64/usr/include/sys/param.h:101, from /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/contrib/gcc/config/freebsd-spec.h:157, from tconfig.h:14, from /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/contrib/gcc/libgcc2.c:38: /home/tinderbox/ia64/obj/home/tinderbox/ia64/src/ia64/usr/include/machine/signal.h:114: field `sc_fr' has incomplete type *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/gnu/lib/libgcc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 8:15:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C732237B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (bremen.shuttle.de [194.95.249.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930BB43E6A for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:15:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bremen.shuttle.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F41217D4D for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:15:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bremen.shuttle.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with UUCP id g9DFFlGm010148 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:15:47 +0200 Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9DFFZeo067257 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:15:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.12.6/8.12.3/Submit) id g9DFFZOO067256 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:15:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:15:35 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: current@freebsd.org Subject: GEOM and NetBSD partitions/disklabels Message-ID: <20021013151535.GA66616@schweikhardt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Poul-Henning et al, recently I've tried installing NetBSD on a new disk. I'm not sure if the following is a coincidence (because it never worked before, even without GEOM) or is due to GEOM issues. My -current is from Oct 12 and the kernel derived from GENERIC, plus/minus devices/options to match my hardware. NetBSD uses sysid 169 for their slice and a new style disklabel with 16 partitions. FreeBSD is unable to deal with that disklabel, it seems. # fdisk da4 ... The data for partition 2 is: sysid 169 (0xa9),(NetBSD) start 39841200, size 16771860 (8189 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 1022/ head 254/ sector 63; end: cyl 1022/ head 254/ sector 63 # disklabel da4s2 disklabel: ioctl DIOCGDINFO: Invalid argument Am I trying something that is not supported? If yes, are there any plans to support our brother BSD's disklabels? Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 8:20:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597FF37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886CC43E6E for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:20:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9DFKBIw006072; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:20:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Jens Schweikhardt Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GEOM and NetBSD partitions/disklabels In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:15:35 +0200." <20021013151535.GA66616@schweikhardt.net> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:20:11 +0200 Message-ID: <6071.1034522411@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20021013151535.GA66616@schweikhardt.net>, Jens Schweikhardt writes: >Poul-Henning et al, > >recently I've tried installing NetBSD on a new disk. I'm not sure if the >following is a coincidence (because it never worked before, even without >GEOM) or is due to GEOM issues. My -current is from Oct 12 and the kernel >derived from GENERIC, plus/minus devices/options to match my hardware. > >NetBSD uses sysid 169 for their slice and a new style disklabel with 16 >partitions. FreeBSD is unable to deal with that disklabel, it seems. We never had to ability to do this before. GEOM can probably do it for you, with something like this patch: Index: geom_bsd.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/geom/geom_bsd.c,v retrieving revision 1.25 diff -u -r1.25 geom_bsd.c --- geom_bsd.c 5 Oct 2002 18:52:06 -0000 1.25 +++ geom_bsd.c 13 Oct 2002 15:19:36 -0000 @@ -39,6 +39,8 @@ * it will server as the source in future copy&paste operations. */ +#define MAXPARTITIONS 16 + #include #ifndef _KERNEL #include @@ -698,7 +700,7 @@ * attach to any other type (BSD was handles above) */ error = g_getattr("MBR::type", cp, &i); - if (!error && i != 165 && flags == G_TF_NORMAL) + if (!error && i != 165 && i != 169 && flags == G_TF_NORMAL) break; /* Get sector size, we need it to read data. */ -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 8:40:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58A737B404; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FAB43E7B; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:40:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9DFeP4G006344; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:40:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9DFePHF006343; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:40:24 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: Terry Lambert , Kris Kennaway , Hellmuth Michaelis , FreeBSD-current Mailinglist Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") Message-ID: <20021013154024.GA6315@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20021013082248.BDB7454C4@bert.kts.org> <20021013083812.GA9050@xor.obsecurity.org> <20021013093802.GA9872@xor.obsecurity.org> <3DA952A1.8530348F@mindspring.com> <20021013111933.GA12332@xor.obsecurity.org> <3DA9589F.C115181@mindspring.com> <20021013123214.GA35585@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021013123214.GA35585@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 03:32:14PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 04:27:27AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 04:01:53AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > > Actually, this should only be required for old ports (older than some > > > > > date which I don't know off-hand). It might be easier to just rebuild > > > > > everything though. > > > > > > > > This would be OK, if the X11 package came from the FreeBSD source > > > > tree, instead of just as a binary on the CDROM (I hate that upgrading > > > > a box breaks things... it should *never* break things, as long as you > > > > don't tell it to remove old libraries). > > > > > > If you can't deal with having to recompile things over the -current > > > development cycle then don't run it. > > > > > > Uh, the issue was the upcoming 5.0 release, which will cause these > > same problems for people. > > > As Kris already mentioned in the unquoted part of his original email, > this does not affect RELENG_4 binaries. > Yes, it can. See yesterday's thread "Revision 1.48 of stdio.h breaks 3rd party software." Luckily, Peter helps me find a work-around. -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 8:52:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89ACD37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail02.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail02.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D64443E7B for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:52:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pmedwards@eircom.net) Received: (qmail 76480 messnum 32877 invoked from network[159.134.237.77/kearney.eircom.net]); 13 Oct 2002 15:52:27 -0000 Received: from kearney.eircom.net (HELO webmail.eircom.net) (159.134.237.77) by mail02.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 76480) with SMTP; 13 Oct 2002 15:52:27 -0000 From: "Peter Edwards" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Bug unmounting readonly NTFS partitions uncovered by GEOM Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:50:22 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: 194.125.181.215 X-Mailer: Eircom Net CRC Webmail (http://www.eircom.net/) Organization: Eircom Net (http://www.eircom.net/) Message-Id: <20021013155228.8D64443E7B@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ntfs_unmount has had this bug since v 1.1: there's a "ronly" variable that should be used to detect if the mount is read-only and affect the flags passed to the VOP_CLOSE of the device vnode accordingly. It's never set to anything other than zero, but the matching VOP_OPEN in ntfs_mount() gets it right. GEOM notices the mismatch between the VOP_OPEN and VOP_CLOSE on the device, and panics in g_access_rel() when unmounting a read-only mounted NTFS partition. Does someone want to commit the obvious patch? petere@celery$ cvs -R diff -u sys/fs/ntfs cvs diff: Diffing sys/fs/ntfs Index: sys/fs/ntfs/ntfs_vfsops.c =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/FreeBSD-CVS/src/sys/fs/ntfs/ntfs_vfsops.c,v retrieving revision 1.47 diff -u -r1.47 ntfs_vfsops.c --- sys/fs/ntfs/ntfs_vfsops.c 27 Sep 2002 18:27:06 -0000 1.47 +++ sys/fs/ntfs/ntfs_vfsops.c 13 Oct 2002 15:30:01 -0000 @@ -508,6 +508,7 @@ vinvalbuf(ntmp->ntm_devvp, V_SAVE, NOCRED, td, 0, 0); + ronly = (mp->mnt_flag & MNT_RDONLY) != 0; error = VOP_CLOSE(ntmp->ntm_devvp, ronly ? FREAD : FREAD|FWRITE, NOCRED, td); -- Peter Edwards To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 9: 4:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA8D37B406 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 09:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABE243E4A for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 09:04:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9DG4qIw006601; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 18:04:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: "Peter Edwards" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug unmounting readonly NTFS partitions uncovered by GEOM In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:50:22 BST." <20021013155228.8D64443E7B@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 18:04:52 +0200 Message-ID: <6600.1034525092@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG done. In message <20021013155228.8D64443E7B@mx1.FreeBSD.org>, "Peter Edwards" writes: >ntfs_unmount has had this bug since v 1.1: there's a "ronly" variable that >should be used to detect if the mount is read-only and affect the flags >passed to the VOP_CLOSE of the device vnode accordingly. It's never set to >anything other than zero, but the matching VOP_OPEN in ntfs_mount() gets >it right. > >GEOM notices the mismatch between the VOP_OPEN and VOP_CLOSE on the device, >and panics in g_access_rel() when unmounting a read-only mounted NTFS >partition. > >Does someone want to commit the obvious patch? > > >petere@celery$ cvs -R diff -u sys/fs/ntfs >cvs diff: Diffing sys/fs/ntfs >Index: sys/fs/ntfs/ntfs_vfsops.c >=================================================================== >RCS file: /usr/FreeBSD-CVS/src/sys/fs/ntfs/ntfs_vfsops.c,v >retrieving revision 1.47 >diff -u -r1.47 ntfs_vfsops.c >--- sys/fs/ntfs/ntfs_vfsops.c 27 Sep 2002 18:27:06 -0000 1.47 >+++ sys/fs/ntfs/ntfs_vfsops.c 13 Oct 2002 15:30:01 -0000 >@@ -508,6 +508,7 @@ > > vinvalbuf(ntmp->ntm_devvp, V_SAVE, NOCRED, td, 0, 0); > >+ ronly = (mp->mnt_flag & MNT_RDONLY) != 0; > error = VOP_CLOSE(ntmp->ntm_devvp, ronly ? FREAD : FREAD|FWRITE, > NOCRED, td); > >-- >Peter Edwards > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 9:36:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E09837B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 09:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F9B43E7B for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 09:36:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01A22A894; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 09:36:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Hellmuth Michaelis , FreeBSD-current Mailinglist Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") In-Reply-To: <20021013093802.GA9872@xor.obsecurity.org> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 09:36:42 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20021013163642.A01A22A894@canning.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 01:38:12AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:22:48AM +0200, Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > > >=20 > > > Had a very bad night after upgrading my main machine from a September-b= > ased > > > current to a -current as of yesterday, for many, many of the programs > > > running on that machine i got an error message like > >=20 > > Peter removed the stdio transitional aid for older -current systems. > > This means that older 5.0 libraries are no longer compatible with the > > new 5.0 libc, and you will need to recompile everything that depends > > on them. 4.x applications (i.e. things that link with libc.so.4) > > should be unaffected. > >=20 > > This is a required change for 5.0-RELEASE. > >=20 > > Doing a 'make world' followed by 'portupgrade -a -f' should be > > sufficient to rebuild everything correctly. Alternatively, I'll have > > new packages built in a few days, and you could just reinstall your > > packages with those. > > Actually, this should only be required for old ports (older than some > date which I don't know off-hand). It might be easier to just rebuild > everything though. Anything older than August 13th, 2001. It also appears that gcc has been miscompiling some binaries if you have got /usr/lib/libgcc.so* present. I've seen one report where an ancient 3.x libgcc.so was hanging around and was being used by the -current gcc compiler with -current binaries. Not Good. Here's what I do personally: make buildworld rm -rf /usr/include.old mv /usr/include /usr/include.old chflags -R noschg /usr/lib [mkdir /usr/lib/old] mv /usr/lib/lib*.so.* /usr/lib/compat mv /usr/lib/*.o /usr/lib/lib*.a /usr/lib/lib*.so /usr/lib/old make installworld This guarantees a clean /usr/include and /usr/lib after finishing. Dynamic binaries keep running because they find their libraries in /usr/lib/compat. But ld(1) will not find them there for *new* binaries. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 10:22:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4376837B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 10:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (bremen.shuttle.de [194.95.249.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8E143E7B for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 10:22:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bremen.shuttle.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D567F17D69; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:22:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bremen.shuttle.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with UUCP id g9DHMJkY019565; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:22:19 +0200 Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9DHLfeo087420; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:21:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.12.6/8.12.3/Submit) id g9DHLfMu087419; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:21:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:21:41 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GEOM and NetBSD partitions/disklabels Message-ID: <20021013172141.GA76272@schweikhardt.net> References: <20021013151535.GA66616@schweikhardt.net> <6071.1034522411@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6071.1034522411@critter.freebsd.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 05:20:11PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: # In message <20021013151535.GA66616@schweikhardt.net>, Jens Schweikhardt writes: # >Poul-Henning et al, # > # >recently I've tried installing NetBSD on a new disk. I'm not sure if the # >following is a coincidence (because it never worked before, even without # >GEOM) or is due to GEOM issues. My -current is from Oct 12 and the kernel # >derived from GENERIC, plus/minus devices/options to match my hardware. # > # >NetBSD uses sysid 169 for their slice and a new style disklabel with 16 # >partitions. FreeBSD is unable to deal with that disklabel, it seems. # # We never had to ability to do this before. GEOM can probably do it for # you, with something like this patch: [snip] Thanks for the quick answer. As-is, the compile fails with In file included from /src/current/sys/geom/geom_bsd.c:62: /src/current/sys/sys/disklabel.h:174: size of array `__assert174' is negative *** Error code 1 because of the compile time assert in disklabel.h, #ifdef CTASSERT CTASSERT(sizeof(struct disklabel) == 276); #endif Another question before I adjust this to make it work: how will this interact with devfs? My ultimate goal is to mount NetBSD partitions on FreeBSD, e.g. /dev/da4s2[ae-p] (preferably read-write). There is more work needed in a bunch of other files, right? If yes, could this be a candidate for the JKH list? Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 10:24:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4910237B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 10:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDA643E75 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 10:24:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9DHOXIw007666; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:24:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Jens Schweikhardt Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GEOM and NetBSD partitions/disklabels In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:21:41 +0200." <20021013172141.GA76272@schweikhardt.net> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:24:33 +0200 Message-ID: <7665.1034529873@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20021013172141.GA76272@schweikhardt.net>, Jens Schweikhardt writes: >On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 05:20:11PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >In file included from /src/current/sys/geom/geom_bsd.c:62: >/src/current/sys/sys/disklabel.h:174: size of array `__assert174' is negative >*** Error code 1 > >because of the compile time assert in disklabel.h, > >#ifdef CTASSERT >CTASSERT(sizeof(struct disklabel) == 276); >#endif Change this to: #ifdef CTASSERT CTASSERT(sizeof(struct disklabel) == 148 + 16 * MAXPARTITIONS); #endif >Another question before I adjust this to make it work: how will this >interact with devfs? My ultimate goal is to mount NetBSD partitions >on FreeBSD, e.g. /dev/da4s2[ae-p] (preferably read-write). There is >more work needed in a bunch of other files, right? If yes, could this >be a candidate for the JKH list? It should "just work", but I have never tried it :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 11: 5:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9509E37B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402C443E88; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:05:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0507.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.43.252] helo=mindspring.com) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 180n7b-0005OE-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:05:47 -0700 Message-ID: <3DA9B5B3.5ED38181@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:04:35 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: Kris Kennaway , Hellmuth Michaelis , FreeBSD-current Mailinglist Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") References: <20021013082248.BDB7454C4@bert.kts.org> <20021013083812.GA9050@xor.obsecurity.org> <20021013093802.GA9872@xor.obsecurity.org> <3DA952A1.8530348F@mindspring.com> <20021013111933.GA12332@xor.obsecurity.org> <3DA9589F.C115181@mindspring.com> <20021013123214.GA35585@sunbay.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 04:27:27AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > If you can't deal with having to recompile things over the -current > > > development cycle then don't run it. > > > > Uh, the issue was the upcoming 5.0 release, which will cause these > > same problems for people. > > As Kris already mentioned in the unquoted part of his original email, > this does not affect RELENG_4 binaries. As I mentioned, it does for 4.6-RELEASE binaries: % resize /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5: \ Undefined symbol "__stdoutp" ...are people going to be upgrading to 5.0-RELEASE from RELENG4, or are they going to be upgrading from 4.6-RELEASE and 4.7-RELEASE? -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 11:59:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7A837B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mckinley.corp.yahoo.com (mckinley.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.62.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007D843E77; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:59:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@mckinley.corp.yahoo.com) Received: from mckinley.corp.yahoo.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mckinley.corp.yahoo.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9DItQLb005283; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:55:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@mckinley.corp.yahoo.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by mckinley.corp.yahoo.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id g9DItQZC005281; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:55:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <200210131855.g9DItQZC005281@mckinley.corp.yahoo.com> To: current@freebsd.org, ia64@freebsd.org Subject: ia64 tinderbox failure Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: build tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 3: cross tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: populating /home/tinderbox/ia64/obj/home/tinderbox/ia64/src/ia64/usr/include -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: building libraries -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: make dependencies -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: building everything.. -------------------------------------------------------------- ===> gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd cc1: warnings being treated as errors /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/contrib/binutils/bfd/elf-eh-frame.c: In function `_bfd_elf_discard_section_eh_frame': /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/contrib/binutils/bfd/elf-eh-frame.c:417: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 12:15:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193CD37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hun.org (hun.org [216.190.27.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1348F43EA9 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:15:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from attila@hun.org) Received: by hun.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 330E557A81; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:15:35 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:15:35 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <20021013191535.ND7D66190@hun.org> From: Daniel Flickinger X-Mailer: AttilaMail with XEmacs & Postfix on FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-Ballistic: N 37.218497 W 113.614979 X-Address: 31 N 700 E, St George UT 84770-3028 X-Squawk: (435) 680-0750 X-No-Archive: yes Cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: [AGAIN] ./usr.sbin/sysinstall/makedevs.c problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="text" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Consistency may be the hobgoblin of little minds, but ./usr.sbin/sysinstall/makedevs.c has problems --again. The "syntax error before ',' token" error existed in my daily builds of 07-10 Oct. The 11 Oct build was from a fresh source tree and compiled correctly. This morning's (13 Oct 1200 GMT) cvsup update brings: ===> usr.sbin/sysinstall /usr/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/menus.c:1370: warning: initialization makes integer makedevs.c:4: syntax error before ',' token *** Error code 1 `all' not remade because of errors. 'makedevs.c' is a generated file, so I went to ./usr.sbin/sysinstall make cleandir cleandepend cleandir obj all which resulted in 3 more syntax errors: /usr/bin/gcc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/../../gnu/lib/libdialog -I. -DX_AS_PKG -DUSE_GZIP=1 -c makedevs.c makedevs.c:48: syntax error before ',' token makedevs.c:54: syntax error before ',' token makedevs.c:57: syntax error before ',' token makedevs.c:60: syntax error before ',' token *** Error code 1 So I went to ./gnu/lib/libdialog: make cleandir cleandepend cleandir obj all returned to ./usr.sbin/sysinstall: make cleandir cleandepend cleandir obj all which resulted in yet another syntax error: /usr/bin/gcc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/../../gnu/lib/libdialog -I -DX_AS_PKG -DUSE_GZIP=1 -c makedevs.c makedevs.c:7: syntax error before ',' token makedevs.c:48: syntax error before ',' token makedevs.c:51: syntax error before ',' token makedevs.c:54: syntax error before ',' token makedevs.c:57: syntax error before ',' token makedevs.c:60: syntax error before ',' token *** Error code 1 -- Sanity is the Playground for the Unimaginative To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 12:43:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58AF937B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1794943E65; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:43:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A31D2A88D; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:43:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Terry Lambert Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , Kris Kennaway , Hellmuth Michaelis , FreeBSD-current Mailinglist Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") In-Reply-To: <3DA9B5B3.5ED38181@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:43:19 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20021013194319.7A31D2A88D@canning.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry Lambert wrote: > Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 04:27:27AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > If you can't deal with having to recompile things over the -current > > > > development cycle then don't run it. > > > > > > Uh, the issue was the upcoming 5.0 release, which will cause these > > > same problems for people. > > > > As Kris already mentioned in the unquoted part of his original email, > > this does not affect RELENG_4 binaries. > > As I mentioned, it does for 4.6-RELEASE binaries: > > % resize > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5: \ > Undefined symbol "__stdoutp" > > ...are people going to be upgrading to 5.0-RELEASE from RELENG4, > or are they going to be upgrading from 4.6-RELEASE and 4.7-RELEASE? Add COMPAT4X=true to your make.conf. We added __stdoutp etc to RELENG_4 and included it in the last two releases. -current's COMPAT4X stuff has the updated libc.so.4 with these symbols. If you want to run 4.x binaries, you need COMPAT4X=true so that we can update the 4.x compatability libraries over time. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 12:56:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A19A37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:56:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tara.freenix.org (keltia.freenix.org [62.4.20.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E1643E97 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:56:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@tara.freenix.org) Received: by tara.freenix.org (Postfix/TLS, from userid 101) id 836852AA9; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:56:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:56:23 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: current unable to exec processes under load Message-ID: <20021013195623.GA33370@tara.freenix.org> Mail-Followup-To: current@FreeBSD.org References: <20021012213213.GC93425@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021012213213.GC93425@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT K6-3D/266 & 2x PIII/800 SMP User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable According to Kris Kennaway: > load: 0.00 cmd: tcsh 8403 [inode] 0.01u 0.00s 0% 1076k The dreaded "inode" problem. I've been seeing this from time to time where = the system will be blocked for all I/O on a given disk with all processes waiti= ng on "inode". Generally updating the system to a more recent "fixes" the problem till next time. I don't know where it comes from :-( --=20 Ollivier ROBERT -=3D- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=3D- roberto@keltia.fre= enix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 5.0-CURRENT #80: Sun Jun 4 22:44:19 CEST 2000 --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: aw8PbC/LJ5Wa1uITzPdAaZX1vIECGgcO iQCVAwUBPanP5gDy2QnruxtBAQHcDwP+MKwhS/HUwRCjaSoKGX9MUYCcwZ7YF51z yUVi9CQmyNFZa8rRnt1Sl8svVnQDQdtF8qqpuIoXLEFtrjyKi6BzafGq6uZeDL5G pvk4hxe0z9ioq2ly2rL9nHcEJ8D72eQwIM/My8oKEdCQQB+J6/y1ZayprmtNWpbT GHHt0SF9w64= =+9k5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 13: 6:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F19537B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDFC43E97 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:06:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9DJiY5b058898; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:44:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id g9DJiYCA058897; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:44:34 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Peter Grehan Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cheap power-pc platform on eBay... Message-ID: <20021013194434.GB58547@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <3DA94F6F.4D7A5C79@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DA94F6F.4D7A5C79@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 08:48:15PM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > > There are quite a number of these gadgets on eBay right now, they would > > probably make a cheap entry-level platform for powerpc work: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2059912083 > > For the budget-conscious developer, I'd recommend the Apple 'Beige' G3. Not > much more expensive than this one on auction sites, and will be supported by > FreeBSD/PPC in the near future. Where are you finding "Beige" G3's for $35?? I quick eBay search showed the price to be more in the $200 - $300 price range. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 13:17: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B280A37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2976A43E7B for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:17:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wa1ter@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (adsl-64-175-106-166.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.175.106.166]) by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.3 da nor stuldap/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9DKGwne670572 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:16:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3DA9D43E.2080203@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:14:54 -0700 From: walt Organization: none User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20021001 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GEOM and NetBSD partitions/disklabels References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <20021013151535.GA66616@schweikhardt.net>, Jens Schweikhardt writes: > >>Poul-Henning et al, >> >>recently I've tried installing NetBSD on a new disk. I'm not sure if the >>following is a coincidence (because it never worked before, even without >>GEOM) or is due to GEOM issues. My -current is from Oct 12 and the kernel >>derived from GENERIC, plus/minus devices/options to match my hardware. >> >>NetBSD uses sysid 169 for their slice and a new style disklabel with 16 >>partitions. FreeBSD is unable to deal with that disklabel, it seems. > > > We never had to ability to do this before. GEOM can probably do it for > you, with something like this patch: Oops. Now I get the same error with both kinds of partitions: disklabel: ioctl DIOCGDINFO: Operation not supported by device (However, it compiled just fine ;-) I have a NetBSD partition I'd like to read also. Is there something simple, or preferably even braindead, that I can do to debug this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 13:33:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537A437B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailf.telia.com (mailf.telia.com [194.22.194.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE4F43E91 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:33:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@veidit.net) Received: from d1o1000.telia.com (d1o1000.telia.com [217.208.12.241]) by mailf.telia.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9DKXrKn006812 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:33:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: Received: from veidit.net (h162n2fls35o1000.telia.com [217.210.235.162]) by d1o1000.telia.com (8.10.2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g9DKXrR22890 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:33:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3DA9D8AE.5030409@veidit.net> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:33:50 +0200 From: John Angelmo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Quickcam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was thinking about buying a webcam (Logitech QuickCam) with an USB port. What kind of usbcams does FreeBSD-Current support? But there dosn't seem to be any luck for me? http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/160/2002/2/0/7924294/ /John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 13:38: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AEB37B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3048A43E91; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:38:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0126.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.126] helo=mindspring.com) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 180pUq-00035N-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:37:57 -0700 Message-ID: <3DA9D95D.C1319A72@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:36:45 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Wemm Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , Kris Kennaway , Hellmuth Michaelis , FreeBSD-current Mailinglist Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") References: <20021013194319.7A31D2A88D@canning.wemm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Wemm wrote: > Add COMPAT4X=true to your make.conf. We added __stdoutp etc to RELENG_4 > and included it in the last two releases. -current's COMPAT4X stuff > has the updated libc.so.4 with these symbols. > > If you want to run 4.x binaries, you need COMPAT4X=true so that we can > update the 4.x compatability libraries over time. I guess if I just rebuild from CVS source with this flag set, you're saying I'll be all right? Thanks for the info... I'll give it a try. I had upgraded the machine with a snapshot from the Japan snapshot image server; apparently, no one ever thinks of compressiong ISO's, so that was at the limit of what I could download. 8-(. It may be a good idea to put this flag in by default, at least until 5.0-RELEASE, so that it will be there on the snapshots. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 13:49:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 931) id 2B0E237B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:49:32 -0700 From: Juli Mallett To: John Angelmo Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quickcam Message-ID: <20021013134932.A12594@FreeBSD.org> References: <3DA9D8AE.5030409@veidit.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3DA9D8AE.5030409@veidit.net>; from john@veidit.net on Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:33:50PM +0200 Organisation: The FreeBSD Project X-Alternate-Addresses: , , , , X-Towel: Yes X-LiveJournal: flata, jmallett X-Negacore: Yes Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * De: John Angelmo [ Data: 2002-10-13 ] [ Subjecte: Quickcam ] > I was thinking about buying a webcam (Logitech QuickCam) with an USB port. > What kind of usbcams does FreeBSD-Current support? I was working on porting the Linux driver for this to freebsd's kernel at one point. In general, your best shot is to find something that gphoto supports. juli. -- Juli Mallett | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve Will break world for fulltime employment. | finger jmallett@FreeBSD.org http://people.FreeBSD.org/~jmallett/ | Support my FreeBSD hacking! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 13:54: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F3C37B406 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nic.upatras.gr (nic.upatras.gr [150.140.129.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB5DD43EAC for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:54:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (qmail 7773 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2002 20:47:04 -0000 Received: from upnet-dialinpool-87.upnet.gr (HELO hades.hell.gr) (@150.140.128.167) by nic.upatras.gr with SMTP; 13 Oct 2002 20:47:04 -0000 Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9DKs4aY015040 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:54:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9DKQenN012760; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:26:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:26:39 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Andre Hall Cc: Pete Carah , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yet another new preventer of cross-builds Message-ID: <20021013202639.GI10829@hades.hell.gr> References: <200210112222.g9BMMvRK017657@inetworx.pcgameauthority.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200210112222.g9BMMvRK017657@inetworx.pcgameauthority.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002-10-11 15:22, Andre Hall wrote: > That looks like the same error message I've been getting going from > 4.6 to 4.7. I have one machine that went to through the build fine. > But the machine that I'm working on now dies at the make buildworld > with the same type message. I have recently installed 4.4-RELEASE and upgraded from source to 5.0-CURRENT. There were a few bumpy points along the way that I needed to be extra careful about, but I did make it without making any manual modifications to the source code of /usr/src. Note, by the way, that current@freebsd.org is not the proper list for asking questions about 4.x releases and versions of FreeBSD :/ > Any suggestions on how to get around this? Look below for a list of CVSup tags for the releases and versions mentioned in the next paragraph. Install 4.6-RELEASE and use it to build 4.6.2-RELEASE. Then, use 4.6.2-RELEASE to build 4.6-STABLE. Then use 4.6-STABLE to build 4.7-RELEASE. That should work fine... FreeBSD version CVSup tag --------------- --------- 4.6-RELEASE RELENG_4_6_0_RELEASE 4.6.2-RELEASE RELENG_4_6_2_RELEASE 4.6-STABLE RELENG_4_6 4.7-RELEASE RELENG_4_7_0_RELEASE -- keramida@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD: The Power to Serve FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #12: Thu Oct 10 21:08:38 EEST 2002 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 13:57: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B7D37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A65443E97 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:56:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0126.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.126] helo=mindspring.com) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 180pn2-000098-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:56:45 -0700 Message-ID: <3DA9DDC5.1547947E@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:55:33 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ollivier Robert Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: current unable to exec processes under load References: <20021012213213.GC93425@xor.obsecurity.org> <20021013195623.GA33370@tara.freenix.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Kris Kennaway: > > load: 0.00 cmd: tcsh 8403 [inode] 0.01u 0.00s 0% 1076k > > The dreaded "inode" problem. I've been seeing this from time to time where the > system will be blocked for all I/O on a given disk with all processes waiting > on "inode". > > Generally updating the system to a more recent "fixes" the problem till next > time. I don't know where it comes from :-( It's actually the name for "vp->v_vnlock" from FFS; specifically, line #1231 of /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c. It's actually the address of the vp->v_lock. Acquisition supposedly times out in 50ms. You may want to try compiling with: options DEBUG_LOCKS It's locked and unlocked in /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_default.c in vop_stdlock(), vop_stdunlock() (which should also be instrumented for DEBUG_LOCKS, but isn't), vop_sharedlock(), and (sort of) in vop_nolock(). So try the option, if that doesn't work, instrument vop_stdlock() and try it again, and if that still gives no information, check with whoever wrote the code. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 13:59: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C95837B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nic.upatras.gr (nic.upatras.gr [150.140.129.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B653143E9C for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:59:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 8152 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2002 20:52:04 -0000 Received: from upnet-dialinpool-87.upnet.gr (HELO hades.hell.gr) (@150.140.128.167) by nic.upatras.gr with SMTP; 13 Oct 2002 20:52:04 -0000 Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9DKxGaW015937; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:59:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9DKxGXB015936; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:59:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:59:15 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Terry Lambert Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") Message-ID: <20021013205915.GK10829@hades.hell.gr> References: <20021013194319.7A31D2A88D@canning.wemm.org> <3DA9D95D.C1319A72@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DA9D95D.C1319A72@mindspring.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002-10-13 13:36, Terry Lambert wrote: > I had upgraded the machine with a snapshot from the Japan snapshot > image server; apparently, no one ever thinks of compressiong ISO's, > so that was at the limit of what I could download. 8-(. > > It may be a good idea to put this flag in by default, at least until > 5.0-RELEASE, so that it will be there on the snapshots. That's a commonly asked question, and a very good answer is in the FAQ :P There are good reasons why the overworked snapshot servers do not attempt to compress the ISO images, which btw contain mostly .tgz files. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 14:22:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD0E37B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gt3.OntheNet.com.au (nt.com.au [203.13.70.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D093643E9E; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-203-45-245-212.qld.bigpond.net.au [203.45.245.212]) by gt3.OntheNet.com.au (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g9DLbDR54728; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:37:13 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3DA9E4AC.F09AF6EF@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:25:00 +1000 From: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cheap power-pc platform on eBay... References: <3DA94F6F.4D7A5C79@freebsd.org> <20021013194434.GB58547@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Where are you finding "Beige" G3's for $35?? I quick eBay search showed > the price to be more in the $200 - $300 price range. That's way too expensive. Search for "apple beige g3". There's one at $41 if you can get hold of a keyboard/mouse: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2061319446 and a slightly better one currently at $71: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2061554015 later, Peter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 14:27:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FDE37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-88.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5616D43EA9 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:27:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9057866C7B; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:27:21 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine Cc: Keith Bostic , kris@obsecurity.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: coredumps with ex(1) Message-ID: <20021013212721.GA22807@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200210131246.g9DCkoN14388@abyssinian.sleepycat.com> <200210131300.g9DD0Cpt014926@nic-naa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200210131300.g9DD0Cpt014926@nic-naa.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 09:00:12AM -0400, Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine wrote: > Ditto. Same caveats as well. Actually, the easiest way for you to reproduce it would probably be to install the security/fuzz port and run it against ex: fuzz -u nobody ex It crashes ex pretty easily. I can still obtain tracebacks if you'd prefer. Kris --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9qeU4Wry0BWjoQKURAuPZAJ9CFbRlIIXSmgzj5cL3rzQIXZ6AIACfZmVU pzf0jiwnViuYftqHeBSUSUY= =LX7H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 14:47:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D47F37B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mckinley.corp.yahoo.com (mckinley.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.62.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F42643E8A; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:47:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@mckinley.corp.yahoo.com) Received: from mckinley.corp.yahoo.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mckinley.corp.yahoo.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9DLhlLb081540; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:43:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@mckinley.corp.yahoo.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by mckinley.corp.yahoo.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id g9DLhlT1081538; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:43:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <200210132143.g9DLhlT1081538@mckinley.corp.yahoo.com> To: current@freebsd.org, ia64@freebsd.org Subject: ia64 tinderbox failure Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: build tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 3: cross tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: populating /home/tinderbox/ia64/obj/home/tinderbox/ia64/src/ia64/usr/include -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: building libraries -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: make dependencies -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: building everything.. -------------------------------------------------------------- ===> gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd cc1: warnings being treated as errors /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/contrib/binutils/bfd/elf-eh-frame.c: In function `_bfd_elf_discard_section_eh_frame': /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/contrib/binutils/bfd/elf-eh-frame.c:417: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libbfd. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/tinderbox/ia64/src. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 14:51: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE90F37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA0943E9E for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:51:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0126.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.126] helo=mindspring.com) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 180qd8-0003jj-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:50:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:49:22 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") References: <20021013194319.7A31D2A88D@canning.wemm.org> <3DA9D95D.C1319A72@mindspring.com> <20021013205915.GK10829@hades.hell.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2002-10-13 13:36, Terry Lambert wrote: > > I had upgraded the machine with a snapshot from the Japan snapshot > > image server; apparently, no one ever thinks of compressiong ISO's, > > so that was at the limit of what I could download. 8-(. > > > > It may be a good idea to put this flag in by default, at least until > > 5.0-RELEASE, so that it will be there on the snapshots. > > That's a commonly asked question, and a very good answer is in the FAQ :P > There are good reasons why the overworked snapshot servers do not > attempt to compress the ISO images, which btw contain mostly .tgz files. Alternately, instead of believing someone's opinion, we could ask the data in question: % ls -l 248643584 Sep 17 00:03 5.0-CURRENT-20020917-JPSNAP.iso 212988130 Oct 13 10:39 5.0-CURRENT-20020917-JPSNAP.iso.gz Compression gets rid of about 36MB. That's 3.4 hours saved on a 28.8K modem download time, overall... a 14% reduction in size. I guess it's no wonder it's a frequently asked question. Too bad it's not answered correctly in the FAQ. I think the correct answer is maybe "because the FAQ maintainers have broadband connections"... PS: If the server is overworked, all you need to do is store the compressed version of the image on the server; I have no idea why you seem to believe that it needs to be compressed more than once, so whether or not the server is "overworked" is irrelevent to the compression, I think. PPS: If the server is overworked, think what reducing the number of bytes per download by 14% would do for it. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 15: 4:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB7737B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B4A43E8A for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:04:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g9DM3NPQ057220; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:03:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.4/Submit) id g9DM3NGc057218; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:03:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:03:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200210132203.g9DM3NGc057218@apollo.backplane.com> To: Terry Lambert Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") References: <20021013194319.7A31D2A88D@canning.wemm.org> <3DA9D95D.C1319A72@mindspring.com> <20021013205915.GK10829@hades.hell.gr> <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> On 2002-10-13 13:36, Terry Lambert wrote: :> > I had upgraded the machine with a snapshot from the Japan snapshot :> > image server; apparently, no one ever thinks of compressiong ISO's, :> > so that was at the limit of what I could download. 8-(. :> > :> > It may be a good idea to put this flag in by default, at least until :> > 5.0-RELEASE, so that it will be there on the snapshots. :> :> That's a commonly asked question, and a very good answer is in the FAQ :P :> There are good reasons why the overworked snapshot servers do not :> attempt to compress the ISO images, which btw contain mostly .tgz files. : :Alternately, instead of believing someone's opinion, we could ask :the data in question: : :% ls -l :248643584 Sep 17 00:03 5.0-CURRENT-20020917-JPSNAP.iso :212988130 Oct 13 10:39 5.0-CURRENT-20020917-JPSNAP.iso.gz : :Compression gets rid of about 36MB. : :That's 3.4 hours saved on a 28.8K modem download time, overall... :a 14% reduction in size. Well, ok, but on a percentage basis you don't get much out of it. If someone is downloading via a modem they're probably doing it overnight anyway. bzip2 does even worse then gz in this instance, so no magic there either. -rw-r--r-- 1 dillon wheel 179985801 Oct 13 15:00 bzip2.bz2 (bzip2 -9) -rw-r--r-- 1 dillon wheel 178963831 Oct 13 14:56 gzip9.gz (gzip -9) -rw-r--r-- 1 dillon wheel 187006976 Jun 8 00:04 miniinst-RC4-8Jun2002.iso -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 15:16:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C596537B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nic.upatras.gr (nic.upatras.gr [150.140.129.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6684343EAC for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:16:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 17107 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2002 22:09:51 -0000 Received: from upnet-dialinpool-30.upnet.gr (HELO hades.hell.gr) (@150.140.128.224) by nic.upatras.gr with SMTP; 13 Oct 2002 22:09:51 -0000 Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9DMH3aW026419; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 01:17:03 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9DMGs8X026418; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 01:16:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 01:16:53 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Terry Lambert Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") Message-ID: <20021013221653.GA26225@hades.hell.gr> References: <20021013194319.7A31D2A88D@canning.wemm.org> <3DA9D95D.C1319A72@mindspring.com> <20021013205915.GK10829@hades.hell.gr> <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> X-PGP-Fingerprint: C1EB 0653 DB8B A557 3829 00F9 D60F 941A 3186 03B6 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002-10-13 14:49, Terry Lambert wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > That's a commonly asked question, and a very good answer is in the FAQ :P > > There are good reasons why the overworked snapshot servers do not > > attempt to compress the ISO images, which btw contain mostly .tgz files. > > Alternately, instead of believing someone's opinion, we could ask > the data in question: > > % ls -l > 248643584 Sep 17 00:03 5.0-CURRENT-20020917-JPSNAP.iso > 212988130 Oct 13 10:39 5.0-CURRENT-20020917-JPSNAP.iso.gz > > Compression gets rid of about 36MB. How long did that take to compress though? What load did the machine that did the compression have? Currently, the snapshots.jp.freebsd.org machines build releases every 24 hours which last 4-9 hours. I'm not sure if the same machines could spare some cycles to compress the ISO images, or the disk space to store almost duplicate copies of the same ISO images twice (compressed, and uncompressed). The best people to ask about things like these are the jp.freebsd.org admins and not a local compression program imho. > That's 3.4 hours saved on a 28.8K modem download time, overall... > a 14% reduction in size. > > I guess it's no wonder it's a frequently asked question. Too bad > it's not answered correctly in the FAQ. > > I think the correct answer is maybe "because the FAQ maintainers > have broadband connections"... No we don't. My "ultrafast" connection is in fact a 28.8 Kbit/sec dialup connection. This is why I don't download entire ISO images, but instead do FTP-installs. So, there you go ;) > PS: If the server is overworked, all you need to do is store the > compressed version of the image on the server; I have no idea why > you seem to believe that it needs to be compressed more than once, > so whether or not the server is "overworked" is irrelevent to the > compression, I think. Not very irrelevant, as it might seem at first. Because I'm not talking about the FTP server that delivers the files, but about the server that 'builds the snapshots'. The donations list of freebsd.org lists requests for better, faster release building machines for the Japan cluster. If you really think that you can help, I'd be glad to be proven wrong by a generous donation to the guys who have saved my -current installation at home a dozen times with their snapshots. - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 15:25: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363AC37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dastardly.newsbastards.org.72.27.172.IN-addr.ARPA.NetScum.dyndns.dk (dclient80-218-16-13.hispeed.ch [80.218.16.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8537043EA9 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:24:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bounce@dcf77-zeit.netscum.dyndns.dk) Received: from MAIL.NetScum.DynDNS.dK (ipv6.NetScum.dyndns.dk [2002:50da:100d:0:250:daff:fe21:edca]) by dastardly.newsbastards.org.72.27.172.IN-addr.ARPA.NetScum.dyndns.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6-SPAMMERS-DeLiGHt) with ESMTP id g9DMOsp02767 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:24:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bounce@dcf77-zeit.netscum.dyndns.dk) Received: (from root@localhost) by MAIL.NetScum.DynDNS.dK (8.11.6/SMI-4.1-R00T0WNED) id g9DMOsi02766; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:24:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bounce@dcf77-zeit.netscum.dyndns.dk) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:24:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200210132224.g9DMOsi02766@MAIL.NetScum.DynDNS.dK> From: BOUWSMA Beery Organization: Men not wearing any pants that dont shave X-Hacked: via telnet to your port 25, what else? References: <3DA9D43E.2080203@hotmail.com> X-Internet-Access-Provided-By: CABAL MODEM (all hail CABAL) To: walt Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GEOM and NetBSD partitions/disklabels X-NetScum: Yes X-One-And-Only-Real-True-Fluffy: No Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [IPv6-only address above; strip the obvious for IPv4-only mail] > > We never had to ability to do this before. GEOM can probably do it for > > you, with something like this patch: > > Oops. Now I get the same error with both kinds of partitions: > > disklabel: ioctl DIOCGDINFO: Operation not supported by device > (However, it compiled just fine ;-) > > I have a NetBSD partition I'd like to read also. Is there something simple, > or preferably even braindead, that I can do to debug this? Actually, I've had no problem for about a year or so mounting NetBSD partitions under FreeBSD-stable and -current, once I got it working. Do you get the above error from the disklabel command? If so, have you rebuilt both `disklabel' and the kernel? (I think there's another thing or two you may need to rebuild, until you go through with rebuilding the whole world) That is, your kernel can mount the NetBSD partitions with their 16 partitions within, even if `disklabel' doesn't work yet... I'm probably not recalling everything right, since for the last year all I've needed to do has been to keep my patches (which is mostly a make.conf -DMAXPARTITIONS=16 applied to the whole world and kernel, where possible) in sync, like with the assert noted... But the last time I built and used a new world was a couple weeks ago, so I haven't tried GEOM. If you still have no luck, when I wake up I can review my patchset for both -current and -stable to see exactly what changes I made to get my NetBSD partitions mounted: The data for partition 3 is: sysid 169,(NetBSD) start 1028160, size 118768545 (57992 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 1020/ head 0/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63 bash-2.05a# disklabel ad0s3 # /dev/ad0s3c: type: unknown disk: NetBSD1.5 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 16 sectors/cylinder: 1008 cylinders: 117825 sectors/unit: 118768545 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 16 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 262080 0 4.2BSD 1024 8192 101 # (Cyl. 0 - 259) b: 787248 262080 swap # (Cyl. 260 - 1040) c: 118768545 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 117825*) e: 20971440 1049328 4.2BSD 2048 16384 102 # (Cyl. 1041 - 21845) f: 262080 22020768 4.2BSD 2048 16384 104 # (Cyl. 21846 - 22105) g: 6290928 22282848 4.2BSD 2048 16384 89 # (Cyl. 22106 - 28346) h: 90194769 28573776 4.2BSD 16384 65536 2968 # (Cyl. 28347 - 117825*) /dev/ad0s3g on /usr/obj (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s3h on /usr/home (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s3a on /NetBSD (ufs, local, read-only) /dev/ad0s3e on /NetBSD/usr (ufs, local, read-only) /dev/ad0s3f on /NetBSD/var (ufs, local, read-only) (I have no problem mounting rw when needed; note that you also will need to modify NetBSD's fsck as needed to be done in FreeBSD-stable or use an alternate superblock under NetBSD after a FreeBSD rw mount; and also the above output is from FreeBSD-stable that I'm running now) barry bouwsma To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 15:45:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2BA37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.plaut.de (ns.plaut.de [194.99.75.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6557843E97 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:45:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@nihil.plaut.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.plaut.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with UUCP id g9DMjPQI020073 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:45:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root@nihil.plaut.de) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by nihil.plaut.de (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9DMgqU9000331 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:42:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root@nihil.plaut.de) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:42:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Reifenberger To: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Still under -current: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? Message-ID: <20021014003402.P315-100000@nihil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I still get the following panic (2 are attached) under -current on my notebook when doing a 'portupgrade -R -f kdebase'. Anyone else sees this? ### crash1 ### GNU gdb 5.2.0 (FreeBSD) 20020627 Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-undermydesk-freebsd"... panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? panic messages: --- panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: cd36f000 syncing disks... panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? Uptime: 1d1h35m29s cbb0: cbb_power: CARD_VCC_0V and CARD_VPP_0V [44] cbb1: cbb_power: CARD_VCC_0V and CARD_VPP_0V [44] Dumping 1023 MB ata0: resetting devices .. (cd0:ata0:0:1:0): lost device (cd0:ata0:0:1:0): removing device entry done 16 32 48 64 80 96 112 128 144 160 176 192 208 224 240 256 272 288 304 320 336 352 368 384 400 416 432 448 464 480 496 512 528 544 560 576 592 608 624 640 656 672 688 704 720 736 752 768 784 800 816 832 848 864 880 896 912 928 944 960 976 992 1008 --- #0 doadump () at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:223 223 dumping++; (kgdb) bt #0 doadump () at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:223 #1 0xc01a41c7 in boot (howto=260) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:355 #2 0xc01a439c in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02b8641, howto=0) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:508 #3 0xc01d7497 in bwrite (bp=0x104) at ../../../kern/vfs_bio.c:796 #4 0xc01d7a24 in bawrite (bp=0x0) at ../../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1085 #5 0xc024666d in ffs_fsync (ap=0xe5af377c) at ../../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vnops.c:230 #6 0xc024640f in VOP_FSYNC (vp=0x0, cred=0x0, waitfor=0, td=0x0) at vnode_if.h:612 #7 0xc0245ad5 in ffs_sync (mp=0xc2e7c600, waitfor=2, cred=0xc22b6e80, td=0xc02e09a0) at ../../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:1120 #8 0xc01e8ad8 in sync (td=0xc02e09a0, uap=0x0) at ../../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:130 #9 0xc01a3dfd in boot (howto=256) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:264 #10 0xc01a439c in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02c5510, howto=-852037632) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:508 #11 0xc025328b in vm_fault (map=0xc083a000, vaddr=3442929664, fault_type=1 '\001', fault_flags=0) at ../../../vm/vm_fault.c:263 #12 0xc028d20d in trap_pfault (frame=0xe5af39a0, usermode=0, eva=3442929890) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:748 #13 0xc028cdc1 in trap (frame= {tf_fs = 24, tf_es = -1006108656, tf_ds = -441516016, tf_edi = -852037412, tf_esi = -1022582016, tf_ebp = -441500960, tf_isp = -441501236, tf_ebx = 4096, tf_edx = -933053184, tf_ecx = 4, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1022622794, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66199, tf_esp = -933053184, tf_ss = -852037404}) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:446 #14 0xc027ff28 in calltrap () at {standard input}:98 #15 0xc01dbc8a in vfs_cache_lookup (ap=0x0) at vnode_if.h:82 #16 0xc01df83b in lookup (ndp=0xe5af3c30) at vnode_if.h:52 #17 0xc01df2d5 in namei (ndp=0xe5af3c30) at ../../../kern/vfs_lookup.c:181 #18 0xc01eaffa in stat (td=0xc408e000, uap=0xe5af3d14) at ../../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:1615 #19 0xc028d88a in syscall (frame= {tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = 135071169, tf_esi = 135272344, tf_ebp = -1077939976, tf_isp = -441500300, tf_ebx = 6, tf_edx = 135272372, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 188, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134723667, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 659, tf_esp = -1077940100, tf_ss = 47}) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:1071 #20 0xc027ff7d in Xint0x80_syscall () at {standard input}:140 (kgdb) up #1 0xc01a41c7 in boot (howto=260) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:355 355 doadump(); (kgdb) #2 0xc01a439c in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02b8641, howto=0) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:508 508 boot(bootopt); (kgdb) #3 0xc01d7497 in bwrite (bp=0x104) at ../../../kern/vfs_bio.c:796 796 panic("bwrite: need chained iodone"); (kgdb) #4 0xc01d7a24 in bawrite (bp=0x0) at ../../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1085 1085 (void) BUF_WRITE(bp); (kgdb) #5 0xc024666d in ffs_fsync (ap=0xe5af377c) at ../../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vnops.c:230 230 (void) bawrite(bp); (kgdb) #6 0xc024640f in VOP_FSYNC (vp=0x0, cred=0x0, waitfor=0, td=0x0) at vnode_if.h:612 612 rc = VCALL(vp, VOFFSET(vop_fsync), &a); (kgdb) #7 0xc0245ad5 in ffs_sync (mp=0xc2e7c600, waitfor=2, cred=0xc22b6e80, td=0xc02e09a0) at ../../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:1120 1120 if ((error = VOP_FSYNC(vp, cred, waitfor, td)) != 0) (kgdb) #8 0xc01e8ad8 in sync (td=0xc02e09a0, uap=0x0) at ../../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:130 130 ((td != NULL) ? td->td_ucred : NOCRED), td); (kgdb) #9 0xc01a3dfd in boot (howto=256) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:264 264 sync(&thread0, NULL); (kgdb) #10 0xc01a439c in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02c5510, howto=-852037632) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:508 508 boot(bootopt); (kgdb) #11 0xc025328b in vm_fault (map=0xc083a000, vaddr=3442929664, fault_type=1 '\001', fault_flags=0) at ../../../vm/vm_fault.c:263 263 panic("vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: %lx", (kgdb) #12 0xc028d20d in trap_pfault (frame=0xe5af39a0, usermode=0, eva=3442929890) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:748 748 rv = vm_fault(map, va, ftype, VM_FAULT_NORMAL); (kgdb) #13 0xc028cdc1 in trap (frame= {tf_fs = 24, tf_es = -1006108656, tf_ds = -441516016, tf_edi = -852037412, tf_esi = -1022582016, tf_ebp = -441500960, tf_isp = -441501236, tf_ebx = 4096, tf_edx = -933053184, tf_ecx = 4, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1022622794, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66199, tf_esp = -933053184, tf_ss = -852037404}) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:446 446 (void) trap_pfault(&frame, FALSE, eva); (kgdb) #14 0xc027ff28 in calltrap () at {standard input}:98 in {standard input} Current language: auto; currently asm (kgdb) ### crash2 ### GNU gdb 5.2.0 (FreeBSD) 20020627 Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-undermydesk-freebsd"... panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? panic messages: --- panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: cebef000 syncing disks... panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? Uptime: 3h35m23s cbb0: cbb_power: CARD_VCC_0V and CARD_VPP_0V [44] cbb1: cbb_power: CARD_VCC_0V and CARD_VPP_0V [44] Dumping 1023 MB ata0: resetting devices .. (cd0:ata0:0:1:0): lost device (cd0:ata0:0:1:0): removing device entry done 16 32 48 64 80 96 112 128 144 160 176 192 208 224 240 256 272 288 304 320 336 352 368 384 400 416 432 448 464 480 496 512 528 544 560 576 592 608 624 640 656 672 688 704 720 736 752 768 784 800 816 832 848 864 880 896 912 928 944 960 976 992 1008 --- #0 doadump () at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:223 223 dumping++; (kgdb) bt #0 doadump () at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:223 #1 0xc01a41c7 in boot (howto=260) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:355 #2 0xc01a439c in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02b8641, howto=-934892192) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:508 #3 0xc01d7497 in bwrite (bp=0x104) at ../../../kern/vfs_bio.c:796 #4 0xc01d7a24 in bawrite (bp=0x0) at ../../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1085 #5 0xc0175dbe in spec_fsync (ap=0xe59b2770) at ../../../fs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:464 #6 0xc0175337 in spec_vnoperate (ap=0x0) at ../../../fs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:124 #7 0xc024640f in VOP_FSYNC (vp=0x0, cred=0x0, waitfor=0, td=0x0) at vnode_if.h:612 #8 0xc0245c7e in ffs_sync (mp=0xc2e7c800, waitfor=2, cred=0xc22b6e80, td=0xc02e09a0) at ../../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:1155 #9 0xc01e8ad8 in sync (td=0xc02e09a0, uap=0x0) at ../../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:130 #10 0xc01a3dfd in boot (howto=256) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:264 #11 0xc01a439c in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02c5510, howto=-826347520) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:508 #12 0xc025328b in vm_fault (map=0xc083a000, vaddr=3468619776, fault_type=1 '\001', fault_flags=0) at ../../../vm/vm_fault.c:263 #13 0xc028d20d in trap_pfault (frame=0xe59b29a0, usermode=0, eva=3468620002) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:748 #14 0xc028cdc1 in trap (frame= {tf_fs = 24, tf_es = -1019609072, tf_ds = -442826736, tf_edi = -826347300, tf_esi = -1022721280, tf_ebp = -442815776, tf_isp = -442816052, tf_ebx = 4096, tf_edx = -932419712, tf_ecx = 4, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1022655562, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66199, tf_esp = -932419712, tf_ss = -826347292}) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:446 #15 0xc027ff28 in calltrap () at {standard input}:98 #16 0xc01dbc8a in vfs_cache_lookup (ap=0x0) at vnode_if.h:82 #17 0xc01df83b in lookup (ndp=0xe59b2c30) at vnode_if.h:52 #18 0xc01df2d5 in namei (ndp=0xe59b2c30) at ../../../kern/vfs_lookup.c:181 #19 0xc01eaffa in stat (td=0xc33a98f0, uap=0xe59b2d14) at ../../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:1615 #20 0xc028d88a in syscall (frame= {tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = 135071169, tf_esi = 135272344, tf_ebp = -1077939976, tf_isp = -442815116, tf_ebx = 6, tf_edx = 135272372, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 188, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134723667, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 659, tf_esp = -1077940100, tf_ss = 47}) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:1071 #21 0xc027ff7d in Xint0x80_syscall () at {standard input}:140 (kgdb) up #1 0xc01a41c7 in boot (howto=260) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:355 355 doadump(); (kgdb) #2 0xc01a439c in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02b8641, howto=-934892192) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:508 508 boot(bootopt); (kgdb) #3 0xc01d7497 in bwrite (bp=0x104) at ../../../kern/vfs_bio.c:796 796 panic("bwrite: need chained iodone"); (kgdb) #4 0xc01d7a24 in bawrite (bp=0x0) at ../../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1085 1085 (void) BUF_WRITE(bp); (kgdb) #5 0xc0175dbe in spec_fsync (ap=0xe59b2770) at ../../../fs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:464 464 bawrite(bp); (kgdb) #6 0xc0175337 in spec_vnoperate (ap=0x0) at ../../../fs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:124 124 return (VOCALL(spec_vnodeop_p, ap->a_desc->vdesc_offset, ap)); (kgdb) #7 0xc024640f in VOP_FSYNC (vp=0x0, cred=0x0, waitfor=0, td=0x0) at vnode_if.h:612 612 rc = VCALL(vp, VOFFSET(vop_fsync), &a); (kgdb) #8 0xc0245c7e in ffs_sync (mp=0xc2e7c800, waitfor=2, cred=0xc22b6e80, td=0xc02e09a0) at ../../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:1155 1155 if ((error = VOP_FSYNC(devvp, cred, waitfor, td)) != 0) (kgdb) #9 0xc01e8ad8 in sync (td=0xc02e09a0, uap=0x0) at ../../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:130 130 ((td != NULL) ? td->td_ucred : NOCRED), td); (kgdb) #10 0xc01a3dfd in boot (howto=256) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:264 264 sync(&thread0, NULL); (kgdb) #11 0xc01a439c in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02c5510, howto=-826347520) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:508 508 boot(bootopt); (kgdb) #12 0xc025328b in vm_fault (map=0xc083a000, vaddr=3468619776, fault_type=1 '\001', fault_flags=0) at ../../../vm/vm_fault.c:263 263 panic("vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: %lx", (kgdb) #13 0xc028d20d in trap_pfault (frame=0xe59b29a0, usermode=0, eva=3468620002) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:748 748 rv = vm_fault(map, va, ftype, VM_FAULT_NORMAL); (kgdb) #14 0xc028cdc1 in trap (frame= {tf_fs = 24, tf_es = -1019609072, tf_ds = -442826736, tf_edi = -826347300, tf_esi = -1022721280, tf_ebp = -442815776, tf_isp = -442816052, tf_ebx = 4096, tf_edx = -932419712, tf_ecx = 4, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1022655562, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66199, tf_esp = -932419712, tf_ss = -826347292}) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:446 446 (void) trap_pfault(&frame, FALSE, eva); (kgdb) #15 0xc027ff28 in calltrap () at {standard input}:98 in {standard input} Current language: auto; currently asm (kgdb) Bye! ---- Michael Reifenberger ^.*Plaut.*$, IT, R/3 Basis, GPS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 15:58:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593F737B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beast.freebsd.org (beast.freebsd.org [216.136.204.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEA743E9C for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:58:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@FreeBSD.org) Received: from beast.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beast.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9DMwwP8057491 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:58:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@beast.freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by beast.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9DMwwYH057489 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:58:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Message-Id: <200210132258.g9DMwwYH057489@beast.freebsd.org> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: alpha tinderbox failure Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: build tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 3: cross tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/alpha/obj/h/des/src/alpha/usr/include -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: building libraries -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: make dependencies -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: building everything.. -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Sun Oct 13 15:20:50 PDT 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Kernel build for GENERIC completed on Sun Oct 13 15:52:54 PDT 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Sun Oct 13 15:52:54 PDT 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------- ===> vinum "Makefile", line 4205: warning: duplicate script for target "geom_bsd.o" ignored cc1: warnings being treated as errors /h/des/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/ahd_pci.c: In function `ahd_pci_map_registers': /h/des/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/ahd_pci.c:171: warning: implicit declaration of function `bus_space_subregion' *** Error code 1 Stop in /h/des/obj/h/des/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /h/des/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /h/des/src. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 16: 9:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0208537B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF4C43E8A; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:09:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9DN9D5b060629; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:09:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id g9DN9DGV060628; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:09:13 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Peter Grehan Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cheap power-pc platform on eBay... Message-ID: <20021013230913.GA60309@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <3DA94F6F.4D7A5C79@freebsd.org> <20021013194434.GB58547@dragon.nuxi.com> <3DA9E4AC.F09AF6EF@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DA9E4AC.F09AF6EF@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 07:25:00AM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > > Where are you finding "Beige" G3's for $35?? I quick eBay search showed > > the price to be more in the $200 - $300 price range. > > That's way too expensive. Search for "apple beige g3". There's one at > $41 if you can get hold of a keyboard/mouse: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2061319446 That is with 3 days to go -- which means the $41 price doens't mean anything (its now $51). > and a slightly better one currently at $71: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2061554015 Now at $102.50 with _4_ days to go. Please be realistic and search the "just ended" acutions to see what the current market prices are: http://search-completed.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&query2=apple+beige+g3&search_option=1&minPrice=&maxPrice=&category0=&completedOnly=30&exclude=&st=&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&maxRecordsPerPage=50&worldlocation=ebayavail®ion=0&available_to=1&located_in=1&ebaycurr=&submit=+Search+&siteid=0&query=apple+beige+g3&shortcut=&ebaytag1code_tmp=&ebaytag1_tmp=&ebaytag1code=&ebaytag1=&ebaytag12=ebayreg&from=R14 $217.77 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2060096383 $300.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2059238054 $217.50 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2059439991 $227.50 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2059368235 $130.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2058894226 $305.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2058882107 $177.50 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2059307446 $300.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2058686099 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 16:40: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61BC37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E77543EAC for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:39:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wa1ter@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (adsl-66-126-110-174.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [66.126.110.174]) by pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.3 da nor stuldap/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9DNduLE282348 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:39:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3DAA03D0.5010900@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:37:52 -0700 From: walt Organization: none User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20021001 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GEOM and NetBSD partitions/disklabels References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG BOUWSMA Beery wrote: > ...That is, your kernel can mount the NetBSD partitions with their 16 > partitions within, even if `disklabel' doesn't work yet... Heh, I just mounted the NBSD partition using an un-patched FBSD kernel with GEOM, even though disklabel (recompiled) refuses to list it. Here's what I see: #l /mnt ls: altroot: Bad file descriptor ls: bsd: Bad file descriptor ls: bsd.old: Bad file descriptor ls: dev: Bad file descriptor ls: fbsd: Bad file descriptor ls: mnt: Bad file descriptor ls: usr: Bad file descriptor ls: var: Value too large to be stored in data type total 1498363071 drwxr-xr-x 16 root wheel 512 Aug 4 2001 ./ drwxr-xr-x 23 root wheel 512 Oct 13 16:18 ../ -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 669 Apr 28 2001 .cshrc -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 148 Apr 28 2001 .profile -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3947412 Jul 25 2001 GENERIC dr-x-w--wt 18770 root wheel 3473181757988490561 Oct 4 2013 bin/ -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 53248 Jul 25 2001 boot* drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 25 2001 cdrom/ c--Sr-xrwt 9248 1348826468 544437612 109, 0x69740062 Dec 8 2023 etc* cr-Sr-srwt 9248 544175136 744846197 120, 0x726f0020 Sep 6 1996 home* dr-xrwsrwx 17996 1045 1783648768 0 Dec 31 1969 root/ br-sr-sr-T 24930 1634890872 1931506787 32, 0x20200020 Jan 29 1987 sbin* d--Srwxr-- 19796 1801675106 1970238055 2314861471017813320 Nov 4 2006 stand/ lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11 Jul 25 2001 sys@ -> usr/src/sys br--r----T 28015 1886718585 544175136 108, 0x2079006e Nov 14 2022 tmp What a mess. I hope I can un-bork any damage I may have done. > (I have no problem mounting rw when needed; note that you also will need > to modify NetBSD's fsck as needed to be done in FreeBSD-stable or use an > alternate superblock under NetBSD after a FreeBSD rw mount... Thanks for the reminder. I'd completely forgotten about that problem. Now I'll go and re-apply phk's patch (which was undone by cvsup) and try again. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 16:52: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307A637B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B893D43E8A for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:52:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0436.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.193.181] helo=mindspring.com) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 180sWZ-0003gd-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:51:55 -0700 Message-ID: <3DAA06D3.CF5BBDA6@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:50:43 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") References: <20021013194319.7A31D2A88D@canning.wemm.org> <3DA9D95D.C1319A72@mindspring.com> <20021013205915.GK10829@hades.hell.gr> <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> <200210132203.g9DM3NGc057218@apollo.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Dillon wrote: > :% ls -l > :248643584 Sep 17 00:03 5.0-CURRENT-20020917-JPSNAP.iso > :212988130 Oct 13 10:39 5.0-CURRENT-20020917-JPSNAP.iso.gz > : > :Compression gets rid of about 36MB. > : > :That's 3.4 hours saved on a 28.8K modem download time, overall... > :a 14% reduction in size. > > Well, ok, but on a percentage basis you don't get much out of it. > If someone is downloading via a modem they're probably doing it > overnight anyway. And that's OK, because we all live in countries that don't charge time or message units for phone calls, right? 8-) 8-). > bzip2 does even worse then gz in this instance, so no magic > there either. Bzip sucks. It was invented to get out from under a patent that is now expired. > -rw-r--r-- 1 dillon wheel 179985801 Oct 13 15:00 bzip2.bz2 (bzip2 -9) > -rw-r--r-- 1 dillon wheel 178963831 Oct 13 14:56 gzip9.gz (gzip -9) > -rw-r--r-- 1 dillon wheel 187006976 Jun 8 00:04 miniinst-RC4-8Jun2002.iso The gzip number I gave was for the default (-6), not -9. The -9 only dropped 600K more out; every little bit helps, though. I gave the default number to make it repeatable, and to give a valid baseline vs. all the compressed data, which was uncompressible because it was otself "-6". A lot of things in the less minimal distributions are more compressible. The ISO for the "live FS image" is *immensely* compressible. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 17:13:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B20237B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE0943EA9 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:13:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0436.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.193.181] helo=mindspring.com) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 180srU-0002Ix-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:13:32 -0700 Message-ID: <3DAA0BE4.4D26942D@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:12:20 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") References: <20021013194319.7A31D2A88D@canning.wemm.org> <3DA9D95D.C1319A72@mindspring.com> <20021013205915.GK10829@hades.hell.gr> <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> <20021013221653.GA26225@hades.hell.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > Compression gets rid of about 36MB. > > How long did that take to compress though? 2 minutes on a P3-800 with 128M of RAM and one IDE disk. Doesn't matter, because all it really adds is latency. > What load did the machine that did the compression have? Currently, > the snapshots.jp.freebsd.org machines build releases every 24 hours > which last 4-9 hours. I'm not sure if the same machines could spare > some cycles to compress the ISO images, or the disk space to store > almost duplicate copies of the same ISO images twice (compressed, and > uncompressed). The best people to ask about things like these are > the jp.freebsd.org admins and not a local compression program imho. The space argument may be valid; though, in that case, you'd expect that compressed images would be the only images that would be there. 8-). > > I think the correct answer is maybe "because the FAQ maintainers > > have broadband connections"... > > No we don't. My "ultrafast" connection is in fact a 28.8 Kbit/sec > dialup connection. This is why I don't download entire ISO images, > but instead do FTP-installs. So, there you go ;) It's *incredibly* hard to get a -current machine initially installed from sources corectly. It's easier to use the ISO's, even if they take a very long time to download. It's either that, or don't start following -current. > Not very irrelevant, as it might seem at first. Because I'm not > talking about the FTP server that delivers the files, but about the > server that 'builds the snapshots'. > > The donations list of freebsd.org lists requests for better, faster > release building machines for the Japan cluster. If you really think > that you can help, I'd be glad to be proven wrong by a generous > donation to the guys who have saved my -current installation at home a > dozen times with their snapshots. 3.5 hours worth of additional FTP downloading time per download, vs. two minutes of compression time... -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 17:20:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6F037B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gt3.OntheNet.com.au (nt.com.au [203.13.70.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A48243EB2; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:20:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-203-45-245-212.qld.bigpond.net.au [203.45.245.212]) by gt3.OntheNet.com.au (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g9E0ZdR63709; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:35:39 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3DAA0E7E.3A6E6D65@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:23:26 +1000 From: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: Peter Grehan , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cheap power-pc platform on eBay... References: <3DA94F6F.4D7A5C79@freebsd.org> <20021013194434.GB58547@dragon.nuxi.com> <3DA9E4AC.F09AF6EF@freebsd.org> <20021013230913.GA60309@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Please be realistic and search the "just ended" acutions to see what the > current market prices are: Expand your search to 'apple g3 desktop', which will pick up the beige desktops. Selective quoting here for sure, but bargains are available to those who go searching. Mabye the price is being driven up by all the sudden demand for low-price FreeBSD boxes :-) $81 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2057868984 $92 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2059179867 $79 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2057659789 later, Peter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 17:47:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F279037B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-88.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CDE43EAF for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:47:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2222566E5B; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:47:17 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Michael Reifenberger Cc: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: Still under -current: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? Message-ID: <20021014004717.GA27303@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20021014003402.P315-100000@nihil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021014003402.P315-100000@nihil> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 12:42:52AM +0200, Michael Reifenberger wrote: > panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? > panic messages: > --- > panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: cd36f000 FYI, the above line is the real panic message..the bwrite panic is secondary and occurs when trying to sync disks. Kris --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9qhQVWry0BWjoQKURAoNXAKD87kY9y9qIl5IgIJPD2Lzs6c55yACgvOXf 7Vmhq9djDxr532sIjWSwN+A= =ViNr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 19:43:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057E337B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032B543EAC for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:43:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet6 id g9E2hN358698 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:43:23 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) In-Reply-To: <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> References: <3DA9D95D.C1319A72@mindspring.com> <20021013205915.GK10829@hades.hell.gr> <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (bamboo) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 16 From: Makoto Matsushita To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:43:20 +0900 Message-Id: <20021014114320A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG tlambert2> That's 3.4 hours saved on a 28.8K modem download time, tlambert2> overall... a 14% reduction in size. The percentage doesn't matter. If ISO image is compressed, user who downloads the image may de-compress that image to burn (I don't know any about the burner softwares which support compressed ISO image). What's happen if there is no space to make de-compressed image on a HDD? Also, the image size is still over 200MB; it is too large to fetch via 28.8k link IMHO (saving 3.4hours doesn't help either). There are lots of broadband connection services we can temporary buy (at airport, starbucks, etc), so why not use it for large file downloads :-) -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 20:17:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B966437B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5741D43EB7 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:17:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0015.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.15] helo=mindspring.com) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 180vjq-0007hQ-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:17:51 -0700 Message-ID: <3DAA3716.F4E7691@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:16:38 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Makoto Matsushita Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol"__sF") References: <3DA9D95D.C1319A72@mindspring.com> <20021013205915.GK10829@hades.hell.gr> <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> <20021014114320A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Makoto Matsushita wrote: > tlambert2> That's 3.4 hours saved on a 28.8K modem download time, > tlambert2> overall... a 14% reduction in size. > > The percentage doesn't matter. If ISO image is compressed, user who > downloads the image may de-compress that image to burn (I don't know > any about the burner softwares which support compressed ISO image). > What's happen if there is no space to make de-compressed image on a HDD? fetch -o - URL | gunzip > unzipped_image or ftp> get filename |"gunzip > unzipped_image" > Also, the image size is still over 200MB; it is too large to fetch via > 28.8k link IMHO (saving 3.4hours doesn't help either). There are lots > of broadband connection services we can temporary buy (at airport, > starbucks, etc), so why not use it for large file downloads :-) I'm not really worried about the people who have access to such links, or who "wouldn't do it anyway"; they aren't the target market -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 20:26:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC2237B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hun.org (hun.org [216.190.27.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384AB43EA3 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:26:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from attila@hun.org) Received: by hun.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A879157B02; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:26:37 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:26:37 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <20021014032637.TbhS16555@hun.org> From: Daniel Flickinger X-Mailer: AttilaMail with XEmacs & Postfix on FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-Ballistic: N 37.218497 W 113.614979 X-Address: 31 N 700 E, St George UT 84770-3028 X-Squawk: (435) 680-0750 X-No-Archive: yes X-Tags: Sanity is the Playground for the Unimaginative To: FreeBSD-CURRENT Cc: Subject: auth 88de32bd subscribe cvs-all attila@hun.org In-Reply-To: <20021014032141.45CCB37B404@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG auth 88de32bd subscribe cvs-all attila@hun.org end To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 20:28:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A6F37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (cae57-176-131.sc.rr.com [66.57.176.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324EA43E97 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9E3SpTe092351 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:28:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:28:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Wesley Morgan To: current@freebsd.org Subject: X problems & 5.0... -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20021013231430.F92271-100000@volatile.chemikals.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The last tentative date for 5.0-RELEASE I have seen is "late November, early December"... This does seem odd since I haven't seen a DP2, but... Quite a few people seem to be having serious problems with XFree86 for 3-4 weeks, everything from sig 6's, the "bezier" crashes, to strange freezes that sometimes "correct" themselves. The bezier bug is somehow related to a problem with the Type1 module, and disabling it helps a little. I have rebuilt my kernel, world, QT, KDE, and X system with-mpentiumpro instead of pentium3. I have not yet seen any SIGABRT's, but I am getting unrecoverable crashes (console stuck) and the "freezes" that will pass after 5-10 minutes of nail-biting wait. During those freezes, I have logged in via the network and attempted to use ktrace and truss on the wildly out-of-control XFree86 process. truss dumps core (probably a thread issue?) and ktrace generates no output. I'm going to try to rebuild with debugging symbols to attach with GDB, which was successful but produced no meaningful output. The "temporary freeze" seems to always occurr in the Konqueror location bar when it attempts to complete a URL as I key it in, but the runaway process is XFree86. I know there is some work being done on the recent signal changes to fix some things, but are we sure this is the problem? I would hate to see release schedules pushed back because these problems are lost in the noise, and I can't see a release being made that has a known unstable X. Thanks WNM -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 20:35:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DDB37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slackerbsd.org (pcp02155875pcs.walngs01.pa.comcast.net [68.81.47.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F82D43EBE for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:35:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carl@slackerbsd.org) Received: by carbon.slackerbsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5AB0F101FB; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:29:32 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:29:32 -0400 From: Carl Schmidt To: Makoto Matsushita Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") Message-ID: <20021014032931.GB23539@carbon.slackerbsd.org> Reply-To: Carl Schmidt Mail-Followup-To: Makoto Matsushita , current@freebsd.org References: <3DA9D95D.C1319A72@mindspring.com> <20021013205915.GK10829@hades.hell.gr> <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> <20021014114320A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021014114320A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 11:43:20AM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote: > tlambert2> That's 3.4 hours saved on a 28.8K modem download time, > tlambert2> overall... a 14% reduction in size. > > The percentage doesn't matter. If ISO image is compressed, user who > downloads the image may de-compress that image to burn (I don't know > any about the burner softwares which support compressed ISO image). > What's happen if there is no space to make de-compressed image on a HDD? I do not follow this. If the user can not fit a non-compressed image on their drive then they certainly will not be downloading a non- compressed image nor a compressed image hence rendering this whole discussion moot for that user...it seems so to me at least. Maybe I am not seeing something? 3.4 hours is a lot of time on a dial-up connection (granted it is not a one size fits all period of time). > Also, the image size is still over 200MB; it is too large to fetch via > 28.8k link IMHO (saving 3.4hours doesn't help either). There are lots > of broadband connection services we can temporary buy (at airport, > starbucks, etc), so why not use it for large file downloads :-) I disagree with the first sentence; see my reply above. I simply disagree that 3.4 hours is not helpful. Whether we think the size is too large for dial-up or not people will still download it. And 200MB is absolutely nothing compared to what people put up with for full-size distribution ISOs. You could argue that not everyone has gzip (I would assume primarily a Windows user). As far as I know there is a DOS version of gzip. This would be where you might need both types of images (compressed and not compressed), and that is something up to the snapshots people. One might argue that Mr. Lambert is simply speculating that anyone has a 28.8k connection anymore. What are the odds that everyone fits this: a: they live close enough to a provider to get broadband (see 'b'), b: they can afford broadband, c: they live close enough to a Starbucks and/or airport, and d: is going to put out that kind of effort to do a-c when they can just as well hope that the snapshot server(s) have the space and power to compress an image so that they can stay in the comfort of their home with their 28.8k Internet connection? I think more than maybe is accounted for. I liken it to simply forgetting about the "others"...sort of like for a long time the blind, deaf, et cetera were left out of most people's thoughts when it came to accessibility (whether that is with computers or physical access to something). I think the FTP installation should be just fine for people with a dial-up connection if they really really really want to have -CURRENT. I've used it a few times for getting snapshots with no harm done. If the snapshot server(s) are not up to task then all of this is useless discussion. Someone ``in the know'' should simply get up and say "hey, our servers can not handle this; end of story" instead of speculating. No one has said that yet that I am aware of. As you might be able to tell I have no idea who actually runs the snapshot server(s) nor am I aware of how many, if there are more than one, there are. Sorry. Of course that's all just my opinion; I could be wrong. -- Carl Schmidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 20:40:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEF637B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (leviathan.inethouston.net [66.64.12.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C8243E6E for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:40:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7098D10DE0C; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:40:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:40:20 -0500 From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: Carl Schmidt Cc: Makoto Matsushita , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") Message-ID: <20021014034020.GA7188@leviathan.inethouston.net> Reply-To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Mail-Followup-To: Carl Schmidt , Makoto Matsushita , current@freebsd.org References: <3DA9D95D.C1319A72@mindspring.com> <20021013205915.GK10829@hades.hell.gr> <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> <20021014114320A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20021014032931.GB23539@carbon.slackerbsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021014032931.GB23539@carbon.slackerbsd.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:29:32PM -0400, Carl Schmidt wrote: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 11:43:20AM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote: > > tlambert2> That's 3.4 hours saved on a 28.8K modem download time, > > tlambert2> overall... a 14% reduction in size. > > > > The percentage doesn't matter. If ISO image is compressed, user who > > downloads the image may de-compress that image to burn (I don't know > > any about the burner softwares which support compressed ISO image). > > What's happen if there is no space to make de-compressed image on a HDD? > > I do not follow this. If the user can not fit a non-compressed image > on their drive then they certainly will not be downloading a non- > compressed image nor a compressed image hence rendering this whole > discussion moot for that user...it seems so to me at least. Maybe I am > not seeing something? The temporary space required to do the decompression is what I am assuming is being reference, although I'm not sure how accurate that argument is. > Whether we think the size is too large for dial-up or not people will > still download it. And 200MB is absolutely nothing compared to what > people put up with for full-size distribution ISOs. You could argue > that not everyone has gzip (I would assume primarily a Windows user). > As far as I know there is a DOS version of gzip. This would be where > you might need both types of images (compressed and not compressed), > and that is something up to the snapshots people. Winzip supports tar and gz, winrar supports bzip2 > One might argue that Mr. Lambert is simply speculating that anyone has > a 28.8k connection anymore. What are the odds that everyone fits this: > > a: they live close enough to a provider to get broadband (see 'b'), I did not think distance was a requirement for cable modem, but I do agree with your logic that not everyone has broadband. -- David W. Chapman Jr. dwcjr@inethouston.net Raintree Network Services, Inc. dwcjr@freebsd.org FreeBSD Committer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 20:41:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E89937B406 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4407B43EAC for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:41:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet6 id g9E3fc373016 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:41:38 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) In-Reply-To: <3DAA3716.F4E7691@mindspring.com> References: <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> <20021014114320A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <3DAA3716.F4E7691@mindspring.com> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (bamboo) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 7 From: Makoto Matsushita To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol"__sF") Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:41:36 +0900 Message-Id: <20021014124136B.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG tlambert2> fetch -o - URL | gunzip > unzipped_image You fully forgot that all users use FreeBSD. -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 20:45:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F4737B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD7043EA3 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:45:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet6 id g9E3ji373142 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:45:44 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) In-Reply-To: <20021014032931.GB23539@carbon.slackerbsd.org> References: <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> <20021014114320A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20021014032931.GB23539@carbon.slackerbsd.org> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (bamboo) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 14 From: Makoto Matsushita To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:45:41 +0900 Message-Id: <20021014124541A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG carl> 3.4 hours is a lot of time on a dial-up connection (granted it carl> is not a one size fits all period of time). You forget that you still compressed image with about 30 hours (at least, full 1 day or more), and it is not helpful for ordinal users, not you. Again, reducing hours/percentages with compressed image doesn't matter; please focus total download time which is actually needed for all users. Missing the point is not helpful for the discussion. -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 21:14:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E229437B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-88.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5857243EAF for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:14:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A75CE66E67; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:14:22 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Wesley Morgan Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X problems & 5.0... -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20021014041422.GA31437@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20021013231430.F92271-100000@volatile.chemikals.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J/dobhs11T7y2rNN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021013231430.F92271-100000@volatile.chemikals.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:28:51PM -0400, Wesley Morgan wrote: > I know there is some work being done on the recent signal changes to fix > some things, but are we sure this is the problem? I would hate to see > release schedules pushed back because these problems are lost in the > noise, and I can't see a release being made that has a known unstable X. I thought this was believed to be a bug in X that was exposed by kernel changes. Kris --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9qkSdWry0BWjoQKURAsVTAKCEEbCKBfs6W7j/V1WJijipegTIXwCdE26Z QvLijTZSvP/29zE9+1Zm6gw= =+emI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 21:15:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5A637B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slackerbsd.org (pcp02155875pcs.walngs01.pa.comcast.net [68.81.47.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA4743EAA for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:15:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carl@slackerbsd.org) Received: by slackerbsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0FFCB10143; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 04:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:15:09 -0400 From: Carl Schmidt To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") Message-ID: <20021014041509.GA24069@carbon.slackerbsd.org> Reply-To: Carl Schmidt Mail-Followup-To: "David W. Chapman Jr." , current@freebsd.org References: <3DA9D95D.C1319A72@mindspring.com> <20021013205915.GK10829@hades.hell.gr> <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> <20021014114320A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20021014032931.GB23539@carbon.slackerbsd.org> <20021014034020.GA7188@leviathan.inethouston.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021014034020.GA7188@leviathan.inethouston.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:40:20PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:29:32PM -0400, Carl Schmidt wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 11:43:20AM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote: > > > tlambert2> That's 3.4 hours saved on a 28.8K modem download time, > > > tlambert2> overall... a 14% reduction in size. > > > > > > The percentage doesn't matter. If ISO image is compressed, user who > > > downloads the image may de-compress that image to burn (I don't know > > > any about the burner softwares which support compressed ISO image). > > > What's happen if there is no space to make de-compressed image on a HDD? > > > > I do not follow this. If the user can not fit a non-compressed image > > on their drive then they certainly will not be downloading a non- > > compressed image nor a compressed image hence rendering this whole > > discussion moot for that user...it seems so to me at least. Maybe I am > > not seeing something? > > The temporary space required to do the decompression is what I am > assuming is being reference, although I'm not sure how accurate that > argument is. I did a little test to see how that works. If you gzip a file and gunzip it and follow the sizes of each file it seems that the file being de-compressed decreases in size while the new file increases in size. I think it is safe to say that gzip does not require temporary space, except an extra inode for de-compression. I could be wrong though. > > Whether we think the size is too large for dial-up or not people will > > still download it. And 200MB is absolutely nothing compared to what > > people put up with for full-size distribution ISOs. You could argue > > that not everyone has gzip (I would assume primarily a Windows user). > > As far as I know there is a DOS version of gzip. This would be where > > you might need both types of images (compressed and not compressed), > > and that is something up to the snapshots people. > > Winzip supports tar and gz, winrar supports bzip2 > > > One might argue that Mr. Lambert is simply speculating that anyone has > > a 28.8k connection anymore. What are the odds that everyone fits this: > > > > a: they live close enough to a provider to get broadband (see 'b'), > > I did not think distance was a requirement for cable modem, but I do > agree with your logic that not everyone has broadband. The distance argument is probably not relevant. I remember a long time ago some person from the UK complaining about having to use ISDN because NTL did not provide cable at that distance, or something. I honestly do not know about that. From Qwest: << To: Makoto Matsushita Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") Message-ID: <20021013211604.A37118@FreeBSD.org> References: <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> <20021014114320A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20021014032931.GB23539@carbon.slackerbsd.org> <20021014124541A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021014124541A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org>; from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org on Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 12:45:41PM +0900 Organisation: The FreeBSD Project X-Alternate-Addresses: , , , , X-Towel: Yes X-LiveJournal: flata, jmallett X-Negacore: Yes Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * De: Makoto Matsushita [ Data: 2002-10-13 ] [ Subjecte: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") ] > > carl> 3.4 hours is a lot of time on a dial-up connection (granted it > carl> is not a one size fits all period of time). > > You forget that you still compressed image with about 30 hours (at > least, full 1 day or more), and it is not helpful for ordinal users, > not you. > > Again, reducing hours/percentages with compressed image doesn't > matter; please focus total download time which is actually needed for > all users. Missing the point is not helpful for the discussion. I've done recent FreeBSD installs over 14.4k modems. The trick is to do a network install over ppp. If one needs to do multiple local installs, then bootstrapping one box this way is best, then slowly pull things over cvsup(1), and build one release locally. Less error- prone to do things this way. -- Juli Mallett | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve Will break world for fulltime employment. | finger jmallett@FreeBSD.org http://people.FreeBSD.org/~jmallett/ | Support my FreeBSD hacking! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 21:38:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591A937B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slackerbsd.org (pcp02155875pcs.walngs01.pa.comcast.net [68.81.47.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D4843EA9 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:38:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carl@slackerbsd.org) Received: by slackerbsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C034110141; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 04:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:38:21 -0400 From: Carl Schmidt To: Makoto Matsushita Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") Message-ID: <20021014043821.GC24069@carbon.slackerbsd.org> Reply-To: Carl Schmidt Mail-Followup-To: Makoto Matsushita , current@freebsd.org References: <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> <20021014114320A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20021014032931.GB23539@carbon.slackerbsd.org> <20021014124541A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021014124541A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 12:45:41PM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote: > carl> 3.4 hours is a lot of time on a dial-up connection (granted it > carl> is not a one size fits all period of time). > > You forget that you still compressed image with about 30 hours (at > least, full 1 day or more), and it is not helpful for ordinal users, > not you. I fail to see how a reduction of hours (even just one) is insignificant to someone on a dial-up connection. Time is money for some people; even a meager three hours. > Again, reducing hours/percentages with compressed image doesn't > matter; please focus total download time which is actually needed for > all users. Missing the point is not helpful for the discussion. Again, I fail to see how a reduction in download time for -anyone- is insignificant. Can you explain how I am missing the point? I think it would be better to focus on whether or not the snapshot machine can even handle such a task, and, more importantly, whether the administrator even wants to do it. I e-mailed buildadm@jp.freebsd.org about the task. If that is you I hope you'll forward your response to the freebsd-current list. -- Carl Schmidt [Random Quote] Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 22: 4:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9B337B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (cae57-176-131.sc.rr.com [66.57.176.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD1143E88 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:04:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9E54pTe092997; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 01:04:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 01:04:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Wesley Morgan To: Kris Kennaway Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X problems & 5.0... -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <20021014041422.GA31437@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <20021014005505.J92271-100000@volatile.chemikals.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:28:51PM -0400, Wesley Morgan wrote: > > > I know there is some work being done on the recent signal changes to fix > > some things, but are we sure this is the problem? I would hate to see > > release schedules pushed back because these problems are lost in the > > noise, and I can't see a release being made that has a known unstable X. > > I thought this was believed to be a bug in X that was exposed by > kernel changes. The Type1/bezier problems supposedly are, but as for the rest... I don't know. That's what my concern is -- if we uncovered a bug, even though its "an X problem", the OS will still be blamed. Could the X server be doing something so absolutely completely braindamaged that these new-fangled signal things cause it to simply quit working? Surely an X bug of this magnitude would not be so localized and would have turned up on other platforms and even 4.x. I have a lot of faith in the RE team, and faith in 5.0 being a great new branch... It has some features that are a MUST for desktops and laptops -- firewire, acpi, cardbus, to name a few -- but a stable X is also a must. We don't want to become like Apache 2 ;) -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 22:40:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD3337B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B4043E97 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:40:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021014054010.IKIZ28253.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org> for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:40:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA71687 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:31:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: FreeBSD current users Subject: Is this a tool problem or source? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ref3# make linking kernel.debug ld: target elf32-i386-freebsd not found *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/REF3. ref3# having done a new cvsup and a new config.. UPDATING has nothing relevant that I can see. julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 22:43:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C376A37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6995C43EAA for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:43:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0276.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.193.21] helo=mindspring.com) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 180y17-00016q-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:43:49 -0700 Message-ID: <3DAA594D.6CB9E184@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:42:37 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Makoto Matsushita Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol"__sF") References: <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> <20021014114320A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <3DAA3716.F4E7691@mindspring.com> <20021014124136B.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Makoto Matsushita wrote: > tlambert2> fetch -o - URL | gunzip > unzipped_image > > You fully forgot that all users use FreeBSD. I can tell you how to do the same thing in Windows, using "helper" applications with Netscape (winzip), if you need it. The FTP command I gave works on Linux, AIX, Solaris, MacOS X, etc., without requiring intermediate storage space. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 22:45:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD0B37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6810E43EB7 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:45:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0276.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.193.21] helo=mindspring.com) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 180y2P-00027a-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:45:09 -0700 Message-ID: <3DAA599D.67FC2DB1@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:43:57 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Makoto Matsushita Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol"__sF") References: <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> <20021014114320A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20021014032931.GB23539@carbon.slackerbsd.org> <20021014124541A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Makoto Matsushita wrote: > carl> 3.4 hours is a lot of time on a dial-up connection (granted it > carl> is not a one size fits all period of time). > > You forget that you still compressed image with about 30 hours (at > least, full 1 day or more), and it is not helpful for ordinal users, > not you. > > Again, reducing hours/percentages with compressed image doesn't > matter; please focus total download time which is actually needed for > all users. Missing the point is not helpful for the discussion. I downloaded the image over a 28.8K modem. If you have access to the FTP logs, the duration of the connection times could be digested to see the connection speed for each download request for the file. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 22:48: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA44B37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D73043EAA for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:48:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0276.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.193.21] helo=mindspring.com) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 180y4V-0003iF-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:47:19 -0700 Message-ID: <3DAA5A1F.5E58FF9D@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:46:07 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Wesley Morgan , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X problems & 5.0... -RELEASE? References: <20021013231430.F92271-100000@volatile.chemikals.org> <20021014041422.GA31437@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:28:51PM -0400, Wesley Morgan wrote: > > I know there is some work being done on the recent signal changes to fix > > some things, but are we sure this is the problem? I would hate to see > > release schedules pushed back because these problems are lost in the > > noise, and I can't see a release being made that has a known unstable X. > > I thought this was believed to be a bug in X that was exposed by > kernel changes. That's an incredibly funny thought... There are a lot of things you could characterise as "bugs exposed by kernel changes" that involve replacing Linux with FreeBSD. Or vice versa. 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 23: 1:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D8837B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haystack.lclark.edu (haystack.lclark.edu [149.175.1.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EDB43E9C; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: from copeland-30-191.lclark.edu (anholt@copeland-30-191.lclark.edu [149.175.30.191]) by haystack.lclark.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02183; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: X problems & 5.0... -RELEASE? From: Eric Anholt To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Wesley Morgan , current@FreeBSD.ORG, Maxim Sobolev In-Reply-To: <20021014041422.GA31437@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20021013231430.F92271-100000@volatile.chemikals.org> <20021014041422.GA31437@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 13 Oct 2002 23:00:08 -0700 Message-Id: <1034575226.3020.75.camel@anholt.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2002-10-13 at 21:14, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:28:51PM -0400, Wesley Morgan wrote: > > > I know there is some work being done on the recent signal changes to fix > > some things, but are we sure this is the problem? I would hate to see > > release schedules pushed back because these problems are lost in the > > noise, and I can't see a release being made that has a known unstable X. > > I thought this was believed to be a bug in X that was exposed by > kernel changes. > > Kris I've heard some people saying that it's the bezier bug. When I had moved to late September/early October kernels, I saw sig11s and the hangs (some temporary, some resulting in reset switch before they could be temporary), but never that message people have mentioned about the Beziers. I couldn't see *any* pattern to my crashes. It often happened while I was reading email, but then I spend a decent amount of time reading mail. The xpert@xfree86.org archived message mentioned previously about Type 1 issues listed two bugs. One was an abort on an error, which we aren't experiencing as far as I've heard. The other was not failing requests for very large fonts, which shouldn't be happening too often and shouldn't have anything to do with the kernel version. Could anyone who is having stability issues with X please email me privately if they are using either -current before September or -stable? If not, without some sort of hints of where an issue really is, I'm going to chalk this up to kernel bugs. -- Eric Anholt http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 0:34: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2CC37B401; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vbook.express.ru (asplinux.ru [195.133.213.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F51743EB2; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:34:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vova@express.ru) Received: from vova by vbook.express.ru with local (Exim 3.36 #1) id 180zjq-000OrL-00; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:34:06 +0400 To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: short uid/gid Message-Id: From: "Vladimir B. Grebenschikov,Moscow,408-7227,123-4567,Some-info" Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:34:06 +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I have found that SysVIPC functions uses structure with short uid/gid types. What is valid solution ? Change types to uid_t/gid_t (but this will broke binary compatibility) Change syscalls to old_* and add new with "right" structures, or something else ? struct ipc_perm { ushort cuid; /* creator user id */ ushort cgid; /* creator group id */ ushort uid; /* user id */ ushort gid; /* group id */ ushort mode; /* r/w permission */ ushort seq; /* sequence # (to generate unique msg/sem/shm id) */ key_t key; /* user specified msg/sem/shm key */ }; -- Vladimir B. Grebenschikov vova@sw.ru, SWsoft, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 2: 8:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C691C37B401; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 02:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8462F43EAA; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 02:08:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g9E963U50633; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:06:03 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:06:03 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Andre Hall , Pete Carah , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Yet another new preventer of cross-builds Message-ID: <20021014090603.GA35810@sunbay.com> References: <200210112222.g9BMMvRK017657@inetworx.pcgameauthority.com> <20021013202639.GI10829@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T4sUOijqQbZv57TR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021013202639.GI10829@hades.hell.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:26:39PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2002-10-11 15:22, Andre Hall wrote: > > That looks like the same error message I've been getting going from > > 4.6 to 4.7. I have one machine that went to through the build fine. > > But the machine that I'm working on now dies at the make buildworld > > with the same type message. >=20 > I have recently installed 4.4-RELEASE and upgraded from source to > 5.0-CURRENT. There were a few bumpy points along the way that I > needed to be extra careful about, but I did make it without making > any manual modifications to the source code of /usr/src. >=20 > Note, by the way, that current@freebsd.org is not the proper list for > asking questions about 4.x releases and versions of FreeBSD :/ >=20 > > Any suggestions on how to get around this? >=20 > Look below for a list of CVSup tags for the releases and versions > mentioned in the next paragraph. >=20 > Install 4.6-RELEASE and use it to build 4.6.2-RELEASE. Then, use > 4.6.2-RELEASE to build 4.6-STABLE. Then use 4.6-STABLE to build > 4.7-RELEASE. That should work fine... >=20 > FreeBSD version CVSup tag > --------------- --------- > 4.6-RELEASE RELENG_4_6_0_RELEASE > 4.6.2-RELEASE RELENG_4_6_2_RELEASE > 4.6-STABLE RELENG_4_6 > 4.7-RELEASE RELENG_4_7_0_RELEASE >=20 Why? We support direct upgrades from any RELENG_4 down to 4.0-RELEASE. If you have problems, just let me know, and I will look into it. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9qoj7Ukv4P6juNwoRAg/+AJ0TqtFKSgQtGTKFgBq9lfpfqac3WACeOUwV 1xpY7W9BH3z4/fkdNesuYDM= =f7J7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 2: 9:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8664937B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 02:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBF043E77 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 02:09:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA30929; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:09:21 +1000 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:19:43 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: bde@gamplex.bde.org To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Jens Schweikhardt , Subject: Re: GEOM and NetBSD partitions/disklabels In-Reply-To: <7665.1034529873@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: <20021014190205.V829-100000@gamplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <20021013172141.GA76272@schweikhardt.net>, Jens Schweikhardt writes: > >On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 05:20:11PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > >In file included from /src/current/sys/geom/geom_bsd.c:62: > >/src/current/sys/sys/disklabel.h:174: size of array `__assert174' is negative > >*** Error code 1 > > > >because of the compile time assert in disklabel.h, > > > >#ifdef CTASSERT > >CTASSERT(sizeof(struct disklabel) == 276); > >#endif > Change this to: > > #ifdef CTASSERT > CTASSERT(sizeof(struct disklabel) == 148 + 16 * MAXPARTITIONS); > #endif > > >Another question before I adjust this to make it work: how will this > >interact with devfs? My ultimate goal is to mount NetBSD partitions > >on FreeBSD, e.g. /dev/da4s2[ae-p] (preferably read-write). There is > >more work needed in a bunch of other files, right? If yes, could this > >be a candidate for the JKH list? > > It should "just work", but I have never tried it :-) This should just work for non-devfs non-geom too. Only using labels with more partitions than MAXPARTITIONS (as it was at compile time) shouldn't work. ISTR remember old breakage in disklabel(8) to make it default to creating all MAXPARTITIONS partitions even when most of them are empty. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 2: 9:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C5737B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 02:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.plaut.de (ns.plaut.de [194.99.75.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082AB43E97 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 02:09:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@nihil.plaut.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.plaut.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with UUCP id g9E99jUG023501; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:09:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root@nihil.plaut.de) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by nihil.plaut.de (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9E98amG001269; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:08:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root@nihil.plaut.de) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:08:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Reifenberger To: Kris Kennaway Cc: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: Still under -current: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? In-Reply-To: <20021014004717.GA27303@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <20021014110352.C1165-100000@nihil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:47:17 -0700 > From: Kris Kennaway > To: Michael Reifenberger > Cc: FreeBSD-Current > Subject: Re: Still under -current: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 12:42:52AM +0200, Michael Reifenberger wrote: > > > panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? > > panic messages: > > --- > > panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: cd36f000 > > FYI, the above line is the real panic message..the bwrite panic is > secondary and occurs when trying to sync disks. Öha! Is the attached backtrace from the bwrite or the vm_fault panic then? If from the wrong panic, how to get the real one? Thanks for clarification! Bye! ---- Michael Reifenberger ^.*Plaut.*$, IT, R/3 Basis, GPS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 2:41:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C0F37B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 02:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.imp.ch (mail.imp.ch [157.161.1.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1632343EB3 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 02:41:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mb@imp.ch) Received: from nbs.imp.ch (nbs.imp.ch [157.161.4.7]) by mail.imp.ch (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9E9fWaa004532; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:41:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Martin.Blapp@imp.ch) Received: from levais.imp.ch (levais.imp.ch [157.161.4.66]) by nbs.imp.ch (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9E9fW751537918; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:41:32 +0200 (MES) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:42:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin Blapp To: Michael Reifenberger , Kris Kennaway Cc: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: Still under -current: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? Message-ID: <20021014114111.X15308-100000@levais.imp.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, >O"ha! >Is the attached backtrace from the bwrite or the vm_fault panic then? >If from the wrong panic, how to get the real one? kern.sync_on_panic=0 in /etc/sysctl.conf Martin Martin Blapp, ------------------------------------------------------------------ ImproWare AG, UNIXSP & ISP, Zurlindenstrasse 29, 4133 Pratteln, CH Phone: +41 061 826 93 00: +41 61 826 93 01 PGP: PGP Fingerprint: B434 53FC C87C FE7B 0A18 B84C 8686 EF22 D300 551E ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 3: 5:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2C337B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.plaut.de (ns.plaut.de [194.99.75.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E497B43EB1 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:05:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@nihil.plaut.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.plaut.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with UUCP id g9EA5MFW024055; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:05:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root@nihil.plaut.de) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by nihil.plaut.de (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9EA4tin001413; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:04:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root@nihil.plaut.de) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:04:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Reifenberger To: Martin Blapp Cc: Kris Kennaway , FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: Still under -current: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? In-Reply-To: <20021014114111.X15308-100000@levais.imp.ch> Message-ID: <20021014120415.K1405-100000@nihil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Martin Blapp wrote: ... > kern.sync_on_panic=0 in /etc/sysctl.conf Thanks! Bye! ---- Michael Reifenberger ^.*Plaut.*$, IT, R/3 Basis, GPS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 3:16:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCD837B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02C643EB2 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:16:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet6 id g9EAGq337050; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:16:52 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Cc: Carl Schmidt In-Reply-To: <20021014043821.GC24069@carbon.slackerbsd.org> References: <20021014032931.GB23539@carbon.slackerbsd.org> <20021014124541A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20021014043821.GC24069@carbon.slackerbsd.org> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (bamboo) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 47 From: Makoto Matsushita To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF") Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:16:47 +0900 Message-Id: <20021014191647A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG carl> I fail to see how a reduction of hours (even just one) is carl> insignificant to someone on a dial-up connection. Time is money carl> for some people; even a meager three hours. Don't you think "30+ hours of time to fetch an ISO image" is _not_ wasting of money? carl> Again, I fail to see how a reduction in download time for -anyone- is carl> insignificant. Can you explain how I am missing the point? These ISO images are build everyday. That means, after 24 hours have past, new ISO image are available. Yes, compressing images help less downloading time and it'll be helpful for someone. However, - For xDSL and/or optical line users, reducing time is maybe less than hours. It can be considered as a range of error. - For slow analog modem users, reducing time is about several hours. However, they still have to spend more than 1 day to fetch. It can be also considered as a range of error. so I think there are small number of peoples who get lots of merits by compressed ISO images. The costs of compressing images is small, but not zero. Somebody already argues to me that "hey, please stop compressing ISO images. You should know that it costs several minutes/hours to make available images for the public." Providing both compressing and uncompressing images are hard to accomplish due to the disk spaces. *** carl> I think it would be better to focus on whether or not the carl> snapshot machine can even handle such a task, and, more carl> importantly, whether the administrator even wants to do it. I have 'buildadm@jp.FreeBSD.org' hat on my head. I don't say "I hate to compress ISO images." However, I think there is very few merits for compressing images. There are many tasks for providing whole services; if it can be avoidable task, I would like not to do. Your requests are very valuable suggestion for me, but at this time, please wait it until I can get more CPU time and disk spaces (but I don't know when it comes true.) -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 3:22:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DEEF37B401; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F99343EB3; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:22:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9EAMB6K022895 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:22:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.1.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9EAMAgK003574 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:22:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9EAM9lv037621; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:22:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9EAM9P0037620; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:22:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:22:08 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: imp@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: pcic state Message-ID: <20021014102207.GG34517@cicely8.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yesterday I updated my notebook from 31th Aug -current to 3rd Oct. Now pccardd complains there is no /dev/card0. The probing looks fine. August version: pcic0: at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 10 on isa0 pcic0: management irq 10 pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 October version: pcic0 at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000-0xd1fff irq 10 on isa0 pcic0: controller 0 (Intel 82365SL Revision 1) has sockets A and B pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on pcic0 pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on pcic0 pcic0: bus_space_alloc range 0x0330-0x03ff (probed) -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 3:22:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D9837B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789C043EB2 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:22:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet6 id g9EAMs338276 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:22:54 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (bamboo) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 11 From: Makoto Matsushita To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Kernel panic with panic: kmem_malloc(4096): kmem_map too small... Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:22:50 +0900 Message-Id: <20021014192250F.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After upgrading my 5-current box (as of late September 2002), the kernel panics periodically with following message: panic: kmem_malloc(4096): kmem_map too small: 107651072 total allocated The number '4096' and '107651072' is always the same. What am I missing something? -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 3:39:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCEB37B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from axe-inc.co.jp (axegw.axe-inc.co.jp [61.199.217.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318BF43EB3 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from takawata@axe-inc.co.jp) Received: from localhost.axe-inc.co.jp (localhost.axe-inc.co.jp [127.0.0.1]) by axe-inc.co.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W) with SMTP id TAA24073; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:39:12 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200210141039.TAA24073@axe-inc.co.jp> X-Authentication-Warning: axegw.axe-inc.co.jp: localhost.axe-inc.co.jp [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: ticso@cicely.de Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pcic state In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:22:08 +0200." <20021014102207.GG34517@cicely8.cicely.de> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:39:12 +0900 From: Takanori Watanabe Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20021014102207.GG34517@cicely8.cicely.de>, Bernd Walter $B$5$s$$$o$/(B: >Yesterday I updated my notebook from 31th Aug -current to 3rd Oct. >Now pccardd complains there is no /dev/card0. >The probing looks fine. That's no expected. Newcard currently has no way to access PCCARD CIS and catch inseartion event from userland, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 3:39:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FCB37B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beast.freebsd.org (beast.freebsd.org [216.136.204.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E01843EAF for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:39:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@FreeBSD.org) Received: from beast.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beast.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9EAdTP8025936 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:39:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@beast.freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by beast.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9EAdT49025934 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:39:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Message-Id: <200210141039.g9EAdT49025934@beast.freebsd.org> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: alpha tinderbox failure Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: build tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 3: cross tools -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/alpha/obj/h/des/src/alpha/usr/include -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: building libraries -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: make dependencies -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4: building everything.. -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Mon Oct 14 03:07:22 PDT 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Kernel build for GENERIC completed on Mon Oct 14 03:34:43 PDT 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Mon Oct 14 03:34:44 PDT 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------- ===> vinum "Makefile", line 4208: warning: duplicate script for target "geom_bsd.o" ignored cc1: warnings being treated as errors /h/des/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/ahd_pci.c: In function `ahd_pci_map_registers': /h/des/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/ahd_pci.c:171: warning: implicit declaration of function `bus_space_subregion' *** Error code 1 Stop in /h/des/obj/h/des/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /h/des/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /h/des/src. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 5:33:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D06F37B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A5843EB2 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:33:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wa1ter@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (adsl-64-175-104-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.175.104.66]) by pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.3 da nor stuldap/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9ECXJcK327148 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:33:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3DAAB913.4010407@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:31:15 -0700 From: walt Organization: none User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20021001 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: GEOM question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Would the GEOM framework make it feasible to use a DOS-extended/logical partition for a BSD filesystem? This would add a great deal of flexibility for adding disk space to a full filesystem, just as one example. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 5:37:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F99C37B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC0B43E97 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:37:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9ECbZIw092927; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:37:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: walt Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GEOM question In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:31:15 PDT." <3DAAB913.4010407@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:37:35 +0200 Message-ID: <92926.1034599055@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3DAAB913.4010407@hotmail.com>, walt writes: >Would the GEOM framework make it feasible to use a DOS-extended/logical >partition for a BSD filesystem? This would add a great deal of >flexibility for adding disk space to a full filesystem, just as one >example. We already support that as far as I know, both with and without GEOM -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 5:46:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A09137B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dastardly.newsbastards.org.72.27.172.IN-addr.ARPA.NetScum.dyndns.dk (dclient80-218-16-13.hispeed.ch [80.218.16.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B038E43EAF for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bounce@dcf77-zeit.netscum.dyndns.dk) Received: from MAIL.NetScum.DynDNS.dK (ipv6.NetScum.dyndns.dk [2002:50da:100d:0:250:daff:fe21:edca]) by dastardly.newsbastards.org.72.27.172.IN-addr.ARPA.NetScum.dyndns.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6-SPAMMERS-DeLiGHt) with ESMTP id g9ECkDp16116 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:46:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bounce@dcf77-zeit.netscum.dyndns.dk) Received: (from root@localhost) by MAIL.NetScum.DynDNS.dK (8.11.6/SMI-4.1-R00T0WNED) id g9ECkDB16115; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:46:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bounce@dcf77-zeit.netscum.dyndns.dk) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:46:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200210141246.g9ECkDB16115@MAIL.NetScum.DynDNS.dK> From: BOUWSMA Beery Organization: Men not wearing any pants that dont shave X-Hacked: via telnet to your port 25, what else? References: <3DA9D43E.2080203@hotmail.com> <3DAA03D0.5010900@hotmail.com> X-Internet-Access-Provided-By: CABAL MODEM (all hail CABAL) To: walt Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GEOM and NetBSD partitions/disklabels X-NetScum: Yes X-One-And-Only-Real-True-Fluffy: No Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [IPv6-only address above; strip the obvious for IPv4-only mail] > > ...That is, your kernel can mount the NetBSD partitions with their 16 > > partitions within, even if `disklabel' doesn't work yet... > Heh, I just mounted the NBSD partition using an un-patched FBSD kernel > with GEOM, even though disklabel (recompiled) refuses to list it. I took a look at my local patches, and just looked at phk's original patch, which apparently doesn't touch `disklabel'... Under -current, my only patch to any related source file is to disable the assert as noted. In my make.conf file I have the lines CFLAGS= -O -pipe -DMAXPARTITIONS=16 COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe -DMAXPARTITIONS=16 which is arguably wrong, but it defines this for everything, world, kernel, or otherwise. Utilities that need to grok the disklabel are going to include src/sys/sys/disklabel.h which looks something like #ifndef MAXPARTITIONS #define MAXPARTITIONS 8 The patch from phk doesn't seem to do anything other than patch src/sys/geom/geom_bsd.c which won't touch disklabel, maybe. Don't quote me, I haven't looked at recent changes. The earlier solution I did was to change src/sys/sys/disklabel.h from 8 up to 16, but rather than continue to apply that hack each time I built the world, I instead used make.conf which worked until the assert sanity check was added. (I'd love to see it changed as per the patch from a hardcoded constant to something that will work for 8 or 16 MAXPARTITIONS...) The last time I built world -current was 02.Okt and I saw no problems with the mounted NetBSD filesystems there, though it was a non-devfs and non-geom world for me. I do the same thing with -stable, but I needed to hack around an explicit sanity check in diskslice.h there, but I don't see any other obvious changes I made to be able to mount NetBSD filesystems. I don't know that it will break anything to build the whole world with MAXPARTITIONS as 16, but I've done it for something like a year now with both -current and -stable and not noticed anything as a result, and nobody's told me that something will break, so... > What a mess. I hope I can un-bork any damage I may have done. I can't remember if I saw anything like that -- I vaguely recall it. If you want to risk it, you can try changing disklabel.h and making the whole world and kernel again to get MAXPARTITIONS universally distributed, but as I note, I've only done this no later than a few weeks ago, so any potential breakage is unknown to me. (You did a read-only mount, I hope?) Also, if you have enough machines around, you might want to try it without geom or anything to verify that you can reproduce my successes... > > to modify NetBSD's fsck as needed to be done in FreeBSD-stable or use an > > alternate superblock under NetBSD after a FreeBSD rw mount... > Thanks for the reminder. I'd completely forgotten about that problem. If you need it, I have a NetBSD pr that you can find by searching their -current mailing list, including patch, based on old NetBSD- current, that works for me... > Now I'll go and re-apply phk's patch (which was undone by cvsup) and try I have a few files I want to hack for various reasons, and I use a unionfs mount of the hacked versions atop the unhacked source, which also requires tracking whether the sources have changed below, and that's why I chose to use a make.conf MAXPARTITIONS rather than to fudge the source files proper. You can cd into the `disklabel' source directory and build a version of that binary with the -DMAXPARTITIONS=16 if you hesitate to build the whole world, and see if that will read your NetBSD disklabel with no problems, but I seem to recall that I may have needed to rebuild a MAXPARTITIONS kernel as well. Can't hurt to try, I don't think... barry bouwsma will improperly build world for food To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 5:50:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A632537B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from procyon.firepipe.net (procyon.firepipe.net [198.78.66.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7375743EA9 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:50:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@csociety.org) Received: by procyon.firepipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E896720E82; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:49:31 -0700 From: Will Andrews To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: ACPI instability on Sony VAIOs? Message-ID: <20021014124931.GJ19874@procyon.firepipe.net> Mail-Followup-To: current@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Is anyone else seeing -CURRENT unable to boot on Sony VAIOs running the newest -CURRENT? I get panics when it goes anywhere near ACPI, and it drops into the debugger. Moving acpi.ko out of the way allows it to go further, but then it hangs after it loads the keyboard controller... atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 The last time I tried to upgrade this machine (and it worked) is apparently March 29, 2002. It badly needs an upgrade, and since we need to make -current more usable for 5.0R, if any ACPI or whatever hackers can tell me what they need I'll get it. I can attach a serial console on the laptop if necessary. Thanks in advance. Regards, -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 6:16:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5328737B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D3443EB1 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:16:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA22214; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:16:32 +1000 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:26:55 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: bde@gamplex.bde.org To: Julian Elischer Cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Is this a tool problem or source? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021014231903.X1611-100000@gamplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Julian Elischer wrote: > ref3# make > linking kernel.debug > ld: target elf32-i386-freebsd not found > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/REF3. > ref3# > > having done a new cvsup and a new config.. > UPDATING has nothing relevant that I can see. Looks like you tried to build a current kernel under a release version of FreeBSD. This fails because of spelling changes in binutils. The target was spelled elf32-i386 but it is now spelled elf32-i386-freebsd. So old binutils can't link current kernels and current binutils can't link old kernels. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 6:25:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F6D37B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from procyon.firepipe.net (procyon.firepipe.net [198.78.66.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BFC43EB2 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:25:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@csociety.org) Received: by procyon.firepipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2BF5120E82; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:24:35 -0700 From: Will Andrews To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ACPI instability on Sony VAIOs? Message-ID: <20021014132435.GK19874@procyon.firepipe.net> Mail-Followup-To: current@FreeBSD.org References: <20021014124931.GJ19874@procyon.firepipe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021014124931.GJ19874@procyon.firepipe.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 05:49:31AM -0700, Will Andrews wrote: > The last time I tried to upgrade this machine (and it worked) is > apparently March 29, 2002. It badly needs an upgrade, and since > we need to make -current more usable for 5.0R, if any ACPI or > whatever hackers can tell me what they need I'll get it. I can > attach a serial console on the laptop if necessary. For shits and grins, I set up a serial debugging line, built a GDB/DDB debugging kernel, and all that stuff. The remote debugger connection seems to be working okay, but this is all I'm getting from GDB: (kgdb) bt #0 0xc0399eb4 in ?? () #1 0xc0234d0b in ?? () #2 0xc02291b1 in ?? () #3 0xc05ad049 in ?? () #4 0xc05abe4b in ?? () #5 0xc05abff4 in ?? () #6 0xc05ac8d5 in ?? () #7 0xc05a828a in ?? () #8 0xc05a8da0 in ?? () #9 0xc02478f0 in ?? () #10 0xc0248328 in ?? () #11 0xc05a23f4 in ?? () #12 0xc05a1d27 in ?? () #13 0xc02478f0 in ?? () #14 0xc0248328 in ?? () #15 0xc03a485c in ?? () #16 0xc02478f0 in ?? () #17 0xc0249868 in ?? () #18 0xc0396cd5 in ?? () #19 0xc0210775 in ?? () (kgdb) The only thing suspicious is, GDB says at the start: --------------------------- <1 3760-0> (8:06:13) [will@puck ~]% gdb -k kernel.debug GNU gdb 4.18 (FreeBSD) Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"...Deprecated bfd_read called at /net/puck/stable/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dwarf2read.c line 3049 in dwarf2_read_section Dwarf Error: Cannot handle DW_FORM_strp in DWARF reader. --------------------------- Ok, then I figured, this is probably an old GDB problem. So I started GDB 5.2 instead... --------------------------- <1 3767-0> (8:21:07) [will@puck ~]% gdb52 kernel.debug GNU gdb 5.2 (FreeBSD) Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-portbld-freebsd4.7"... (gdb) target remote /dev/cuaa0 Remote debugging using /dev/cuaa0 Debugger (msg=0x2a "") at ../../../i386/i386/db_interface.c:323 323 ../../../i386/i386/db_interface.c: No such file or directory. in ../../../i386/i386/db_interface.c warning: Unable to find dynamic linker breakpoint function. GDB will be unable to debug shared library initializers and track explicitly loaded dynamic code. warning: shared library handler failed to enable breakpoint (gdb) bt #0 Debugger (msg=0x2a "") at ../../../i386/i386/db_interface.c:323 #1 0xc03a339b in init386 (first=42) at ../../../i386/i386/machdep.c:1807 (gdb) continue Continuing. Program received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap. Debugger (msg=0x12
) at atomic.h:260 260 atomic.h: No such file or directory. in atomic.h (gdb) bt #0 Debugger (msg=0x12
) at atomic.h:260 #1 0xc0234d0b in panic (fmt=0x0) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:494 #2 0xc02291b1 in free (addr=0xc05ad021, type=0xc05b5580) at ../../../kern/kern_malloc.c:222 #3 0xc05ad049 in ?? () #4 0xc05abe4b in ?? () #5 0xc05abff4 in ?? () #6 0xc05ac8d5 in ?? () #7 0xc05a828a in ?? () #8 0xc05a8da0 in ?? () #9 0xc02478f0 in device_probe_and_attach (dev=0xa) at device_if.h:39 #10 0xc0248328 in bus_generic_attach (dev=0x12) at ../../../kern/subr_bus.c:1725 #11 0xc05a23f4 in ?? () #12 0xc05a1d27 in ?? () #13 0xc02478f0 in device_probe_and_attach (dev=0x4) at device_if.h:39 #14 0xc0248328 in bus_generic_attach (dev=0x12) at ../../../kern/subr_bus.c:1725 #15 0xc03a485c in nexus_attach (dev=0xc0effc80) at ../../../i386/i386/nexus.c:231 #16 0xc02478f0 in device_probe_and_attach (dev=0xc0effc80) at device_if.h:39 #17 0xc0249868 in root_bus_configure () at ../../../kern/subr_bus.c:2241 #18 0xc0396cd5 in configure (dummy=0x0) at ../../../i386/i386/autoconf.c:144 #19 0xc0210775 in mi_startup () at ../../../kern/init_main.c:214 (gdb) --------------------------- Seems to be OK. Guess I need to have the source tree on the debugging machine, not the target. :-] I'll get to that later I guess. Comments appreciated. Is there any way to use the same serial line to obtain the kernel messages printed on the console (as it's an x86 box)? regards, -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 6:31: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3343E37B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7897E43EAF for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:31:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18433; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g9EDUOK53796; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:30:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15786.50928.826403.959175@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:30:24 -0400 (EDT) To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Wesley Morgan , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X problems & 5.0... -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <20021014041422.GA31437@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20021013231430.F92271-100000@volatile.chemikals.org> <20021014041422.GA31437@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway writes: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:28:51PM -0400, Wesley Morgan wrote: > > > I know there is some work being done on the recent signal changes to fix > > some things, but are we sure this is the problem? I would hate to see > > release schedules pushed back because these problems are lost in the > > noise, and I can't see a release being made that has a known unstable X. > > I thought this was believed to be a bug in X that was exposed by > kernel changes. Given that it (apparently) happens on X servers compiled months ago, my gut feeling is that it is a bug in the kernel floating point context save/restore in the presence of signals. I still can't run X without crashing the *kernel* because of the conglomeration of hacks that was added to i386/machdep.c to paper-over floatingpoing problems after the latest KSE brea^W import. The last machdep.c that works for me is 1.539. This has been dragging on for nearly 2 weeks. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 6:46:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDE137B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7834243E9C for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:46:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9EDkV8d042134; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:46:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id g9EDjGVf042126; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:45:15 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Julian Elischer Cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Is this a tool problem or source? Message-ID: <20021014134515.GA42048@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Julian Elischer , FreeBSD current users References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:31:13PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > > ref3# make > linking kernel.debug > ld: target elf32-i386-freebsd not found > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/REF3. > ref3# Please explain exactly what you are trying to do. All I can guess is you are trying to build a RELENG_3 kernel (based on kernel config name), on a 5-CURRENT box (based on the mailing list you sent this to). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 6:47:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748C537B401; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from watery.cc.kogakuin.ac.jp (watery.cc.kogakuin.ac.jp [133.80.152.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8288943EBE; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:47:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nyan@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by watery.cc.kogakuin.ac.jp (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9EDlSnq040575; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:47:28 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from nyan@jp.FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:46:40 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20021014.224640.78758544.nyan@jp.FreeBSD.org> To: phk@FreeBSD.org Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: GEOM (Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pc98/pc98 wd.c wd_cd.c) From: Takahashi Yoshihiro In-Reply-To: <200210051549.g95Fnedr013921@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200210051549.g95Fnedr013921@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.2 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 =?iso-2022-jp?B?KBskQjgtTFobKEIp?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="--Next_Part(Mon_Oct_14_22:46:40_2002_499)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----Next_Part(Mon_Oct_14_22:46:40_2002_499)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <200210051549.g95Fnedr013921@freefall.freebsd.org> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > phk 2002/10/05 08:49:39 PDT > > Modified files: > sys/pc98/pc98 wd.c wd_cd.c > Log: > Don't use dkunit() to find our softc when we can hang it off the dev_t. > This removes yet a dependency on the old disklabel stuff. After this commit, the wd driver causes panic at wdsleep() via wdopen(). Please fix this problem or back out your change. And then, pc98 machines can not mount root filesystem yet. Kawanobe Koh sent me the patch to fix this problem, please commit it. --- TAKAHASHI Yoshihiro ----Next_Part(Mon_Oct_14_22:46:40_2002_499)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="subr_disk.diff" *** sys/kern/subr_disk.c.org Sat Sep 21 03:30:43 2002 --- sys/kern/subr_disk.c Sun Oct 6 01:55:47 2002 *************** *** 311,316 **** --- 311,318 ---- error = dp->d_devsw->d_open(pdev, oflags, devtype, td); dp->d_label->d_secsize = dp->d_sectorsize; dp->d_label->d_secperunit = dp->d_mediasize / dp->d_sectorsize; + dp->d_label->d_nsectors = dp->d_fwsectors; + dp->d_label->d_ntracks = dp->d_fwheads; } /* Inherit properties from the whole/raw dev_t */ ----Next_Part(Mon_Oct_14_22:46:40_2002_499)---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 6:57:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6681837B401; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C578643EB3; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:57:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from fwd11.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1815jB-0008ML-04; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:57:49 +0200 Received: from Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (520065502893-0001@[217.229.221.42]) by fmrl11.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1815j1-0mdBGiC; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:57:39 +0200 Received: from Magelan.Leidinger.net (Magelan [192.168.1.1]) by Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9EDvVCg075137; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:57:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from Magelan.Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id g9EDvVgk013326; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:57:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:57:31 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Eric Anholt Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, sobomax@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: X problems & 5.0... -RELEASE? Message-Id: <20021014155731.39b517a0.Alexander@Leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <1034575226.3020.75.camel@anholt.dyndns.org> References: <20021013231430.F92271-100000@volatile.chemikals.org> <20021014041422.GA31437@xor.obsecurity.org> <1034575226.3020.75.camel@anholt.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.2claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 520065502893-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 13 Oct 2002 23:00:08 -0700 Eric Anholt wrote: > Could anyone who is having stability issues with X please email me > privately if they are using either -current before September or > -stable? If not, without some sort of hints of where an issue really > is, I'm going to chalk this up to kernel bugs. Running -current as of Oct 8, X4 as of May 15. I hadn't the problem with a kernel from one or two months ago. Maxim was trying to find the date where it breaks, don't know how far he is. I only see signal 6, regardless of the loading of the type1 module for X. It only aborts if I have my MUA running (see headers). No problem with e.g. Galeon. I also see those hangs, but wasn't able to find something specific to trigger them. But at every temporary hang the mouse pointer doesn't freeze, and the mouse clicks get played back at the correct positions after X unfreezes. I'm also able to freeze the system hard just by killing mldonkey (CVS version), but I don't know if this is related, as the mouse pointer isn't movable, I don't think it is related, but who knows. Bye, Alexander. -- To boldly go where I surely don't belong. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 7: 8: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70D837B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com (smtp-send.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3FF43EAA for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from qhwt@myrealbox.com) Received: from localhost qhwt@smtp-send.myrealbox.com [220.96.97.116] by smtp-send.myrealbox.com with NetMail SMTP Agent $Revision: 3.14 $ on Novell NetWare; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:08:08 -0600 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:08:04 +0900 From: qhwt@myrealbox.com To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is this a tool problem or source? Message-ID: <20021014140803.GA15313.qhwt@myrealbox.com> References: <20021014231903.X1611-100000@gamplex.bde.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021014231903.X1611-100000@gamplex.bde.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 11:26:55PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: > On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > ref3# make > > linking kernel.debug > > ld: target elf32-i386-freebsd not found > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/REF3. > > ref3# > > > > having done a new cvsup and a new config.. > > UPDATING has nothing relevant that I can see. > > Looks like you tried to build a current kernel under a release version > of FreeBSD. This fails because of spelling changes in binutils. The > target was spelled elf32-i386 but it is now spelled elf32-i386-freebsd. I got the same error trying to build a kernel from source code as of 2002-10-13(UTC) with world from 2002-10-06(UTC). Now I'm compiling the kernel with gcc just built from the same source, and it seems like it's going without problem. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 7:10:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C649137B401; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay1.macomnet.ru (relay1.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928E743E42; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:10:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maxim@macomnet.ru) Received: from news1.macomnet.ru (news1.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.14]) by relay1.macomnet.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9EEAcZ1118694; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:10:38 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:10:38 +0400 (MSD) From: Maxim Konovalov To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Julian Elischer , FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Is this a tool problem or source? In-Reply-To: <20021014134515.GA42048@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: <20021014180823.Y95175-100000@news1.macomnet.ru> References: <20021014134515.GA42048@dragon.nuxi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 17:45+0400, Oct 14, 2002, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:31:13PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > ref3# make > > linking kernel.debug > > ld: target elf32-i386-freebsd not found > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/REF3. > > ref3# > > Please explain exactly what you are trying to do. All I can guess is you > are trying to build a RELENG_3 kernel (based on kernel config name), on a > 5-CURRENT box (based on the mailing list you sent this to). I've got the same error yesterday building CURRENT on the month old CURRENT. make buildworld installworld _before_ make buildkernel solved the problem. -- Maxim Konovalov, MAcomnet, Internet Dept., system engineer phone: +7 (095) 796-9079, mailto:maxim@macomnet.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 7:19:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DD737B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F12943E6E for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:19:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9EEJB8d042405; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:19:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id g9EEHt2E042399; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:17:55 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: qhwt@myrealbox.com Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is this a tool problem or source? Message-ID: <20021014141755.GA42377@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , qhwt@myrealbox.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20021014231903.X1611-100000@gamplex.bde.org> <20021014140803.GA15313.qhwt@myrealbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021014140803.GA15313.qhwt@myrealbox.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 11:08:04PM +0900, qhwt@myrealbox.com wrote: > I got the same error trying to build a kernel from source code as of > 2002-10-13(UTC) with world from 2002-10-06(UTC). That is not supported if both the kernel sources and the build machine are 5-CURRENT. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 7:28: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9530B37B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2860F43E3B for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:28:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9EERtIw013026; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:27:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Takahashi Yoshihiro Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: GEOM (Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pc98/pc98 wd.c wd_cd.c) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:46:40 +0900." <20021014.224640.78758544.nyan@jp.FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:27:55 +0200 Message-ID: <13025.1034605675@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20021014.224640.78758544.nyan@jp.FreeBSD.org>, Takahashi Yoshihiro writes: >> Modified files: >> sys/pc98/pc98 wd.c wd_cd.c >> Log: >> Don't use dkunit() to find our softc when we can hang it off the dev_t. >> This removes yet a dependency on the old disklabel stuff. > >After this commit, the wd driver causes panic at wdsleep() via >wdopen(). Please fix this problem or back out your change. Can you provide some details on this panic ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 7:54:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082C937B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop017.verizon.net (pop017pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5147143E4A for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:54:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flog.nish@verizon.net) Received: from corvette ([4.62.130.23]) by pop017.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.09 201-253-122-126-109-20020611) with ESMTP id <20021014145443.FCRJ1423.pop017.verizon.net@corvette> for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:54:43 -0500 Message-ID: <009201c27391$93d299a0$0300a8c0@corvette> From: "George" To: References: <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> <20021014114320A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20021014032931.GB23539@carbon.slackerbsd.org> <20021014124541A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <3DAA599D.67FC2DB1@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol"__sF") Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:54:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at pop017.verizon.net from [4.62.130.23] at Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:54:43 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Makoto Matsushita wrote: > > carl> 3.4 hours is a lot of time on a dial-up connection (granted it > > carl> is not a one size fits all period of time). > > > > You forget that you still compressed image with about 30 hours (at > > least, full 1 day or more), and it is not helpful for ordinal users, > > not you. > > > > Again, reducing hours/percentages with compressed image doesn't > > matter; please focus total download time which is actually needed for > > all users. Missing the point is not helpful for the discussion. > > I downloaded the image over a 28.8K modem. > > If you have access to the FTP logs, the duration of the connection > times could be digested to see the connection speed for each download > request for the file. > > -- Terry > Haven't you guys burnt enough bandwidth on something that nothing will be done about? It's kind of hard to pick out the important posts when cluttered with all this noise. Eh? George To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 9:39: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3CA37B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61DAC43E97 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:39:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drbrain@magnesium.net) Received: (qmail 52343 invoked by uid 1100); 14 Oct 2002 16:39:00 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:39:00 -0700 From: Eric Hodel To: walt Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GEOM question Message-ID: <20021014163859.GM25608@segment7.net> References: <3DAAB913.4010407@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="p2pkNiL1PnZBJ6Nr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DAAB913.4010407@hotmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --p2pkNiL1PnZBJ6Nr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable walt (wa1ter@hotmail.com) wrote: > Would the GEOM framework make it feasible to use a DOS-extended/logical > partition for a BSD filesystem? This would add a great deal of > flexibility for adding disk space to a full filesystem, just as one > example. You can also use md to do this, I mount my win32 swapfile as additional swap from time to time, as necessary. --=20 Eric Hodel - drbrain@segment7.net - http://segment7.net All messages signed with fingerprint: FEC2 57F1 D465 EB15 5D6E 7C11 332A 551C 796C 9F04 --p2pkNiL1PnZBJ6Nr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9qvMjMypVHHlsnwQRAsZsAJ4t7DS6WFlcRR/49gYGjO61sygu+ACgrvBJ 0rmS9yk6agzPfq8sK9Z+cHg= =xVmk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --p2pkNiL1PnZBJ6Nr-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 10:28:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993BE37B401; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7307843EA9; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:28:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.12.4/8.12.4) with SMTP id g9EHRwOo062016; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:27:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:27:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: "Vladimir B. Grebenschikov,Moscow,408-7227,123-4567,Some-info" Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: short uid/gid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, this is a Known Problem, and it's quite unfortunate, actually. I looked at trying to solve it -- changing the types respectively to uid_t, gid_t, and mode_t, but it involved a lot of ABI munging because the structures are shared between the userland interface and the kernel implementation. The result is that any change in the kernel structure really requires you to break out the user structures from the kernel structure, which requires a lot of work. Also, ipc_perm is shared between all three SysVIPC services, and to compound things, there are already ofoo() interfaces for older versions of the structures. My belief is that seperating the user and kernel structures is really necessary -- making a kipc_perm, etc, so we can better support fine-grained locking and extensible security. However, someone has to do the grunt work, and last time I tried, I spent several days and only made a bit of progress. If you want to give a first pass at breaking out the user and kernel structures and send a patch, I'll be happy to work with you to get it integrated. I think the steps are: (1) Divorce user and kernel structures for all of the SysVIPC interfaces, and provide functions to map between them as necessary. (2) Remove the original compatibility interfaces left over from eons ago (and figure out how many eons ago so we know what ABIs we're finally removing). (3) Define new userland versions of necessary structures and create a new set of ofoo() and foo() interfaces based on the change. (4) Go back through and dribble the kernel structures with new toys, such as 'struct label', etc. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects robert@fledge.watson.org Network Associates Laboratories On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Vladimir B. Grebenschikov,Moscow,408-7227,123-4567,Some-info wrote: > > Hi > > I have found that SysVIPC functions uses structure with short uid/gid types. > > What is valid solution ? > > Change types to uid_t/gid_t (but this will broke binary compatibility) > Change syscalls to old_* and add new with "right" structures, > or something else ? > > struct ipc_perm { > ushort cuid; /* creator user id */ > ushort cgid; /* creator group id */ > ushort uid; /* user id */ > ushort gid; /* group id */ > ushort mode; /* r/w permission */ > ushort seq; /* sequence # (to generate unique msg/sem/shm id) */ > key_t key; /* user specified msg/sem/shm key */ > }; > > -- > Vladimir B. Grebenschikov > vova@sw.ru, SWsoft, Inc. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 10:55: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7387937B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rootlabs.com (root.org [67.118.192.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1948543EA9 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:55:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@rootlabs.com) Received: (qmail 33412 invoked by uid 1000); 14 Oct 2002 17:55:08 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:55:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Nate Lawson To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X problems & 5.0... -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <15786.50928.826403.959175@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Given that it (apparently) happens on X servers compiled months ago, > my gut feeling is that it is a bug in the kernel floating point > context save/restore in the presence of signals. > > I still can't run X without crashing the *kernel* because of the > conglomeration of hacks that was added to i386/machdep.c to paper-over > floatingpoing problems after the latest KSE brea^W import. The > last machdep.c that works for me is 1.539. This has been dragging > on for nearly 2 weeks. > > Drew I don't know how to say this strongly enough but can someone PLEASE PLEASE fix this properly? It is preventing real work from getting done. Thanks, Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 10:58:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96E637B404 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-88.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B95143EB3 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:58:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 46CE266C7B; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:58:42 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Michael Reifenberger Cc: Kris Kennaway , FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: Still under -current: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? Message-ID: <20021014175841.GA47686@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20021014004717.GA27303@xor.obsecurity.org> <20021014110352.C1165-100000@nihil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021014110352.C1165-100000@nihil> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 11:08:36AM +0200, Michael Reifenberger wrote: > > FYI, the above line is the real panic message..the bwrite panic is > > secondary and occurs when trying to sync disks. >=20 > ?ha! > Is the attached backtrace from the bwrite or the vm_fault panic then? > If from the wrong panic, how to get the real one? The backtrace is correct (the first few stack frames may be superfluous though). Kris --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9qwXRWry0BWjoQKURAtoLAKCVt7LbHL1m9gFZg+H6zpZJcVetnACdHI9y vNJaGgaFrNjCSTx8qrviprI= =rwE/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 10:59: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9396237B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E16443EAC for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:58:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28292; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g9EHwQJ54052; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:58:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15787.1474.824422.286474@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:58:26 -0400 (EDT) To: Nate Lawson Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X problems & 5.0... -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: References: <15786.50928.826403.959175@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nate Lawson writes: > On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Given that it (apparently) happens on X servers compiled months ago, > > my gut feeling is that it is a bug in the kernel floating point > > context save/restore in the presence of signals. > > > > I still can't run X without crashing the *kernel* because of the > > conglomeration of hacks that was added to i386/machdep.c to paper-over > > floatingpoing problems after the latest KSE brea^W import. The > > last machdep.c that works for me is 1.539. This has been dragging > > on for nearly 2 weeks. > > > > Drew > > I don't know how to say this strongly enough but can someone PLEASE PLEASE > fix this properly? It is preventing real work from getting done. I think we're all waiting for Julian and Jonathan Mini to fix this.. It would probably help if they had some sort of a test program that could duplicate the bug in a controlled setting without a lot of confusing application software running.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 11: 8: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC6C37B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14AC343E97 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:08:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0078.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.78] helo=mindspring.com) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1819d6-0002ih-00; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:07:48 -0700 Message-ID: <3DAB07AC.13C25667@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:06:36 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Makoto Matsushita Cc: current@freebsd.org, Carl Schmidt Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol"__sF") References: <20021014032931.GB23539@carbon.slackerbsd.org> <20021014124541A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20021014043821.GC24069@carbon.slackerbsd.org> <20021014191647A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here's my final statement on the subject: o It's ~20 hours, compressed, ~24 hours uncompressed. o It's 15 minutes less, for a standard Pacific Bell DSL line, assuming you get the 500K/second. o It's 40 minutes out of ~6 hours, for EarthLink or Hughes Satellite broadband, iDSL, or two channel ISDN. I personally downloaded the ISO snapshot from Japan, because the DP1 ISO image was approximately three times the size: it cut two days off my download time. Compression is not a hardship for the receiver, who can decompress in-band with the tools that are available to them, so if there is a local disk space issue (enough room for one copy, but not enough room for two), it can be resolved that way. This is a statistically unlikely situation, given that they could always use the FreeBSD partition they intended to install on, in order to provide temporary storage: it is nearly impossible to buy a hard drive that small these days, let alone install a decompressed FreeBSD from the compressed ISO images. The intent of the snapshots are for people to test out the full system. However, this is not how people use them. Snapshots are frequently used to install -current the first time, in order to get bootstrapped, after which people use CVSup, and then rebuild from source to track -current. If you think downloading an ISO is time consuming, consider the initial CVSup operation to get a local copy of the source tree. Japan and the U.S. are very different. Japan is deploying broadband everywhere. The U.S. has deployed broadband to a very small area, in areas of high population density. No one has properly addressed "the last mile" in the U.S.; instead, they have built supporting backbone infrastructure, and left it for someone else to build "the last mile". The result of this idiocy has been Worldcom going bankrupt, Global Crossing going bankrupt, etc.: it's like building an interstate highway system, but leaving dirt roads into all of the cities. The few companies who have "addressed the last mile" have done so with a broken understanding of the purpose of the Internet: they believe it to be a medium for pushing content to people, rather than a tool for people to communicate. As a result, people are not permited to run servers at their house, and the up-channel is almost always significantly slower than the down-channel. The result of this is that the upchannel is often limited to 1.5 times the size necessary to simply handle the CP "ACK" traffic for the downchannel (do the math on your cable modem or ADSL line). Even if they were to "graciously permit" you to run a server, it would still be a practical impossibility. They want to treat the Internet like television, instead of like the telephone. This is understandable: most of the people who provide "the last mile" are cable television companies. There is insufficient bandwidth for a television quality two-way video telephone call in nearly all of these so-called "broadband last mile" solutions. To paraphrase, "they are all dressed up, with nowhere to go". Until someone addresses this disparity in the U.S., as it is being addressed in Japan, the primary use of things like the ISO snapshots is going to *remain* as a synchronization tool for developers, not a set of test images that get downloaded, burned to CD-R, and then tested for functionality. I realize that your intent is to serve a specific audience, to a specific purpose; I'm telling you, though, that it's not how the images are being used, and it's not how the images *will* be used, for quite some time, given the technology environment in which your users exist. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 11:10:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D1937B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.electric.net (smtp2.electric.net [216.129.90.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23C043EB2 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:10:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davidf@caymas.com) Received: from hm1.electric.net ([216.129.90.33]) by smtp2.electric.net with smtp (Exim 4.04) id 1819fZ-0003Cm-01 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:10:21 -0700 Received: from osmtp2.electric.net ([216.129.90.29]) by hm1.electric.net (NAVGW 2.5.2.12) with SMTP id M2002101411102124261 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:10:21 -0700 Received: from [216.210.192.146] (helo=DAVIDFW2K) by osmtp2.electric.net with asmtp (Exim 3.22 #3) id 1819fX-000EAC-04 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:10:20 -0700 Reply-To: From: "David Francheski" To: Subject: anybody help? undefined reference to 'xstrtod' occuring when building sort.o Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:10:16 -0700 Organization: Caymas Systems Message-ID: <00d801c273ac$f5001e30$3600010a@caymas.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to upgrade from a 5.0 DP1 system to the latest -current (as of last week sometime). In the process of doing a 'make buildworld' I get the following error message: Bcc -O -pipe -mcpu=3Dpentiumpro -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/sort -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/sort/../../../contrib/gnu-sort/lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -o sort sort.o argmatch.o dup-safer.o error.o fopen-safer.o getopt.o getopt1.o hard-locale.o human.o long-options.o memcoll.o physmem.o posixver.o quote.o quotearg.o version-etc.o xmalloc.o xmemcoll.o xstrtoul.o xstrtoumax.o ^M=1B[K=1B[13;5H.o: In = function `general_numcompare':^M=1B[K Bsort.o(.text+0x12=1B[37@9c): undefined reference to `xstrtod' Bsort.o(.text+0x12c8): undefined reference to = `xstrtod'^M=1B[K=1B[16;5H.o: In function `main':^M=1B[K Bsort.o(.text+0x2ce8)=1B[41@: undefined reference to `version_string' Bargmatch.o: In function `__argmatch_die':^M=1B[K Bargmatch.o(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `usage'^M=1B[K B*** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/sort.^M=1B[K B*** Error code 1^M=1B[K B^M=1B[K=1B[Hargmatch.o(.text+=1B[36@0xe): undefined reference to = `usage' B*** Error code 1^M=1B[K =20 I made sure /usr/obj was empty prior to the buildworld. Thanks for your help! David L. Francheski To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 11:15:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250F437B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF03443EA9 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:15:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0078.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.78] helo=mindspring.com) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1819ks-0007VT-00; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:15:50 -0700 Message-ID: <3DAB098E.A80A4197@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:14:38 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Makoto Matsushita Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Kernel panic with panic: kmem_malloc(4096): kmem_map too small... References: <20021014192250F.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Makoto Matsushita wrote: > After upgrading my 5-current box (as of late September 2002), the > kernel panics periodically with following message: > > panic: kmem_malloc(4096): kmem_map too small: 107651072 total allocated > > The number '4096' and '107651072' is always the same. What am I > missing something? This was recently discussed on -current. I posted a dumb patch that "fixes" the problem. Jeff Roberson is looking at fixing the problem "the right way" right now. Until then, though, you can still use my patch (it makes UMA use kmem_alloc_wait, instead of kmem_malloc). See the archive of the posting, for more details: -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 11:22:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D0137B401; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isilon.com (isilon.com [65.101.129.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5922E43EAF; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:22:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomva@isilon.com) Received: from there (tomva-1.isilon.com [172.16.5.46]) by isilon.com (8.12.2/8.11.1) with SMTP id g9EIMQ3B000854; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:22:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomva@isilon.com) Message-Id: <200210141822.g9EIMQ3B000854@isilon.com> X-Authentication-Warning: isilon.com: Host tomva-1.isilon.com [172.16.5.46] claimed to be there Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Thomas Vaughan Reply-To: tomva@isilon.com Organization: Isilon Systems, Inc. To: Juli Mallett , John Angelmo Subject: Re: Quickcam Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:29:37 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3DA9D8AE.5030409@veidit.net> <20021013134932.A12594@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20021013134932.A12594@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I also had good luck with OV511 based cameras. A Google search for that should turn up a lot of good results. (This includes cameras like Creative Labs' WebCam 3, all USB) On Sunday 13 October 2002 01:49 pm, Juli Mallett wrote: > * De: John Angelmo [ Data: 2002-10-13 ] > [ Subjecte: Quickcam ] > > > I was thinking about buying a webcam (Logitech QuickCam) with an USB > > port. What kind of usbcams does FreeBSD-Current support? > > I was working on porting the Linux driver for this to freebsd's kernel > at one point. In general, your best shot is to find something that > gphoto supports. > > juli. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 11:22:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72C537B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF0543EAF for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:22:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0078.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.78] helo=mindspring.com) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1819rS-0002bE-00; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:22:38 -0700 Message-ID: <3DAB0B26.2EED5A84@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:21:26 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Andrews Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ACPI instability on Sony VAIOs? References: <20021014124931.GJ19874@procyon.firepipe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Will Andrews wrote: > Is anyone else seeing -CURRENT unable to boot on Sony VAIOs > running the newest -CURRENT? I get panics when it goes anywhere > near ACPI, and it drops into the debugger. Moving acpi.ko out of > the way allows it to go further, but then it hangs after it loads > the keyboard controller... Also: options DISABLE_PSE options DISABLE_PG_G The CPU in these machines has 128 rather than 16 TLB entries. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 11:40:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AF137B401; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBA443EB7; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:40:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021014184010.UNSW24958.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:40:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA74753; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:25:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: "David O'Brien" Cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Is this a tool problem or source? In-Reply-To: <20021014134515.GA42048@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:31:13PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > ref3# make > > linking kernel.debug > > ld: target elf32-i386-freebsd not found > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/REF3. > > ref3# > > Please explain exactly what you are trying to do. All I can guess is you > are trying to build a RELENG_3 kernel (based on kernel config name), on a > 5-CURRENT box (based on the mailing list you sent this to). REF3 is a machine neame.. > I'm trying to build a freshly CVSUP'd -current kernel under a -current system from about a week ago.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 11:40:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E562337B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD9443E9C for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:40:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021014184012.UNTW24958.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:40:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA74741; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:22:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Bruce Evans Cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Is this a tool problem or source? In-Reply-To: <20021014231903.X1611-100000@gamplex.bde.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried to build a new version of a -current kernel under -current a whole 8 or so days old.. On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Bruce Evans wrote: > On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > ref3# make > > linking kernel.debug > > ld: target elf32-i386-freebsd not found > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/REF3. > > ref3# > > > > having done a new cvsup and a new config.. > > UPDATING has nothing relevant that I can see. > > Looks like you tried to build a current kernel under a release version > of FreeBSD. This fails because of spelling changes in binutils. The > target was spelled elf32-i386 but it is now spelled elf32-i386-freebsd. > So old binutils can't link current kernels and current binutils can't > link old kernels. > > Bruce > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 11:40:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35EAE37B404 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C6943E9C for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 13387 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2002 18:40:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 14 Oct 2002 18:40:15 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9EIeCn5031749; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:40:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3DAB0B26.2EED5A84@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:40:18 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: ACPI instability on Sony VAIOs? Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, Will Andrews Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 14-Oct-2002 Terry Lambert wrote: > Will Andrews wrote: >> Is anyone else seeing -CURRENT unable to boot on Sony VAIOs >> running the newest -CURRENT? I get panics when it goes anywhere >> near ACPI, and it drops into the debugger. Moving acpi.ko out of >> the way allows it to go further, but then it hangs after it loads >> the keyboard controller... > > Also: > > options DISABLE_PSE > options DISABLE_PG_G > > The CPU in these machines has 128 rather than 16 TLB entries. *sigh*, this is not related to his problem. I think the ACPI PCI link code has a bug in that it tries to free memory it has not allocated (including actual error messages and a trace from ddb() could help verify this) and has nothing to do with the TLB on the CPU. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 11:40:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB5B37B40E; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3569643E9C; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:40:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021014184017.UNVM24958.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:40:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA74763; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:28:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Maxim Konovalov Cc: "David O'Brien" , FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Is this a tool problem or source? In-Reply-To: <20021014180823.Y95175-100000@news1.macomnet.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It would be good if the tools accepted both the new and old names for a while as upgrading the kernel is usually my first step.. I usually do it first. oh well I guess the probelem is solved.. I had a buildworld going.. I'll install it and then build a new kernel. On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > On 17:45+0400, Oct 14, 2002, David O'Brien wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:31:13PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > > > ref3# make > > > linking kernel.debug > > > ld: target elf32-i386-freebsd not found > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/REF3. > > > ref3# > > > > Please explain exactly what you are trying to do. All I can guess is you > > are trying to build a RELENG_3 kernel (based on kernel config name), on a > > 5-CURRENT box (based on the mailing list you sent this to). > > I've got the same error yesterday building CURRENT on the month old > CURRENT. make buildworld installworld _before_ make buildkernel solved > the problem. > > -- > Maxim Konovalov, MAcomnet, Internet Dept., system engineer > phone: +7 (095) 796-9079, mailto:maxim@macomnet.ru > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 11:55:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C2A37B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB6643E91 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:55:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0078.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.78] helo=mindspring.com) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 181AND-0000CM-00; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:55:27 -0700 Message-ID: <3DAB12D7.70D0B72F@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:54:15 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidf@caymas.com Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anybody help? undefined reference to 'xstrtod' occuring when building sort.o References: <00d801c273ac$f5001e30$3600010a@caymas.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Francheski wrote: > I'm trying to upgrade from a 5.0 DP1 system to the latest -current > (as of last week sometime). Do not use DP1 as the starting point. Instead, use one of the snapshot ISO's that we've been discussing in the thread with the "Subject:" of: Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol"__sF") The best method I have discovered so far is to: 1) Install a 4.x-RELEASE 2) "Upgrade" using the most recent snapshot you can find 3) Using an NFS mounted CVS tree, checkout and follow the "upgraqde from source" process, which will not work properly from DP-1, but works fine from the snapshot. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 12: 0:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2200737B404; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B581F43EB1; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0078.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.78] helo=mindspring.com) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 181ARo-00073O-00; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:00:13 -0700 Message-ID: <3DAB13F4.8DC3491F@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:59:00 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, Will Andrews Subject: Re: ACPI instability on Sony VAIOs? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Baldwin wrote: > On 14-Oct-2002 Terry Lambert wrote: > > Will Andrews wrote: > >> Is anyone else seeing -CURRENT unable to boot on Sony VAIOs > >> running the newest -CURRENT? I get panics when it goes anywhere > >> near ACPI, and it drops into the debugger. Moving acpi.ko out of > >> the way allows it to go further, but then it hangs after it loads > >> the keyboard controller... > > > > Also: > > > > options DISABLE_PSE > > options DISABLE_PG_G > > > > The CPU in these machines has 128 rather than 16 TLB entries. > > *sigh*, this is not related to his problem. I think the ACPI PCI > link code has a bug in that it tries to free memory it has not > allocated (including actual error messages and a trace from ddb() > could help verify this) and has nothing to do with the TLB on the > CPU. He doesn't load the ACPI; from the end of the above that I quoted: "Moving acpi.ko out of the way allows it to go further, but then it hangs after it loads the keyboard controller..." FWIW, not loading the ACPI *AND* compiling the kernel with those options fixes the problem on my personal Sony VAIO PCG-XG29. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 12: 0:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF0837B407; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0876C43EA3; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:00:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021014190018.VFMJ24958.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:00:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA74869; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:49:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Maxim Konovalov Cc: "David O'Brien" , FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Is this a tool problem or source? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Julian Elischer wrote: > It would be good if the tools accepted both the new and old > names for a while as upgrading the kernel is usually my first step.. > I usually do it first. > > oh well I guess the probelem is solved.. > I had a buildworld going.. I'll install it and then build a new kernel. > A note in UPDATING, that compiling the kernel now requires new tools to be installed might be a good idea.. > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > > On 17:45+0400, Oct 14, 2002, David O'Brien wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:31:13PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > > > > > ref3# make > > > > linking kernel.debug > > > > ld: target elf32-i386-freebsd not found > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/REF3. > > > > ref3# > > > > > > Please explain exactly what you are trying to do. All I can guess is you > > > are trying to build a RELENG_3 kernel (based on kernel config name), on a > > > 5-CURRENT box (based on the mailing list you sent this to). > > > > I've got the same error yesterday building CURRENT on the month old > > CURRENT. make buildworld installworld _before_ make buildkernel solved > > the problem. > > > > -- > > Maxim Konovalov, MAcomnet, Internet Dept., system engineer > > phone: +7 (095) 796-9079, mailto:maxim@macomnet.ru > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 12:18:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F12537B418; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baraca.united.net.ua (ns.united.net.ua [193.111.8.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086F443E77; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:18:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from max@vega.com) Received: from vega.vega.com (xDSL-2-2.united.net.ua [193.111.9.226]) by baraca.united.net.ua (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9EJILs47634; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:18:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from max@vega.com) Received: from vega.vega.com (max@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vega.vega.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9EJIFab000561; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:18:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from max@localhost) by vega.vega.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id g9EJIANV000560; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:18:10 +0300 (EEST) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:18:10 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev To: Robert Watson Cc: "Vladimir B. Grebenschikov,Moscow,408-7227,123-4567,Some-info" , freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: short uid/gid Message-ID: <20021014191810.GA338@vega.vega.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Linux solved the problem by introducing a new flag for {msg,shm,sem}ctl(3) interfaces (IPC_64), which if set tells the kernel that user supplies new version of the structure. The kernel itself internally keeps all relevant information already in IPC_64 format, doing conversion before returning it to user if IPC_64 isn't set. I think that for portability reasons we should at least consider the same or similar route. -Maxim On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:27:57PM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: > Yeah, this is a Known Problem, and it's quite unfortunate, actually. I > looked at trying to solve it -- changing the types respectively to uid_t, > gid_t, and mode_t, but it involved a lot of ABI munging because the > structures are shared between the userland interface and the kernel > implementation. The result is that any change in the kernel structure > really requires you to break out the user structures from the kernel > structure, which requires a lot of work. Also, ipc_perm is shared between > all three SysVIPC services, and to compound things, there are already > ofoo() interfaces for older versions of the structures. My belief is that > seperating the user and kernel structures is really necessary -- making a > kipc_perm, etc, so we can better support fine-grained locking and > extensible security. However, someone has to do the grunt work, and last > time I tried, I spent several days and only made a bit of progress. If > you want to give a first pass at breaking out the user and kernel > structures and send a patch, I'll be happy to work with you to get it > integrated. I think the steps are: > > (1) Divorce user and kernel structures for all of the SysVIPC interfaces, > and provide functions to map between them as necessary. > > (2) Remove the original compatibility interfaces left over from eons ago > (and figure out how many eons ago so we know what ABIs we're finally > removing). > > (3) Define new userland versions of necessary structures and create a new > set of ofoo() and foo() interfaces based on the change. > > (4) Go back through and dribble the kernel structures with new toys, such > as 'struct label', etc. > > Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects > robert@fledge.watson.org Network Associates Laboratories > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Vladimir B. Grebenschikov,Moscow,408-7227,123-4567,Some-info wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > I have found that SysVIPC functions uses structure with short uid/gid types. > > > > What is valid solution ? > > > > Change types to uid_t/gid_t (but this will broke binary compatibility) > > Change syscalls to old_* and add new with "right" structures, > > or something else ? > > > > struct ipc_perm { > > ushort cuid; /* creator user id */ > > ushort cgid; /* creator group id */ > > ushort uid; /* user id */ > > ushort gid; /* group id */ > > ushort mode; /* r/w permission */ > > ushort seq; /* sequence # (to generate unique msg/sem/shm id) */ > > key_t key; /* user specified msg/sem/shm key */ > > }; > > > > -- > > Vladimir B. Grebenschikov > > vova@sw.ru, SWsoft, Inc. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 12:33:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B89E37B433; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maktoobchat.net (bareed3.maktoob.net [195.172.126.104]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BF243EB7; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:33:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmusa@maktoob.com) Received: from [195.172.126.106] (HELO maktoobchat.net) by maktoobchat.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.8) with ESMTP id 2201993; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:33:39 +0000 Received: from [195.172.126.113] (HELO webmail) by maktoobchat.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.7) with SMTP id 5081075; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:28:08 +0000 From: dmusa@maktoob.com (Dr.Dan Musa) To: dmusa@maktoob.com Subject: Business Proposal Comment: Maktoob By BOC X-Mailer: Maktoob 1.0 [Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt; YComp 5.0.2.5)] X-Originating-IP: [216.139.168.229] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:28:08 +0000 Message-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG _________________________________________________________ Looking to be employed? We have an ocean of employers and employees waiting to be matched. Go to Maktoob Jobs NOW. http://www.maktoob.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 12:55: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4D737B404 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from procyon.firepipe.net (procyon.firepipe.net [198.78.66.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3DE43E77 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:55:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@csociety.org) Received: by procyon.firepipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D1A902129F; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:53:46 -0700 From: Will Andrews To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ACPI instability on Sony VAIOs? Message-ID: <20021014195346.GN19874@procyon.firepipe.net> Mail-Followup-To: current@FreeBSD.org References: <3DAB0B26.2EED5A84@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:40:18PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > *sigh*, this is not related to his problem. I think the ACPI PCI > link code has a bug in that it tries to free memory it has not > allocated (including actual error messages and a trace from ddb() > could help verify this) and has nothing to do with the TLB on the > CPU. In fact, that is what appears to be the problem (panic() freeing memory that doesn't exist), but I can't get a traceback without the debugger on a remote system... unless I manually copy it... Regards, -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 12:59: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1248537B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A988743E8A for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:58:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0078.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.78] helo=mindspring.com) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 181BMV-00059L-00; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:58:47 -0700 Message-ID: <3DAB21AD.6844DBE@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:57:33 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Andrews Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ACPI instability on Sony VAIOs? References: <3DAB0B26.2EED5A84@mindspring.com> <20021014195346.GN19874@procyon.firepipe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Will Andrews wrote: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:40:18PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > *sigh*, this is not related to his problem. I think the ACPI PCI > > link code has a bug in that it tries to free memory it has not > > allocated (including actual error messages and a trace from ddb() > > could help verify this) and has nothing to do with the TLB on the > > CPU. > > In fact, that is what appears to be the problem (panic() freeing > memory that doesn't exist), but I can't get a traceback without > the debugger on a remote system... unless I manually copy it... That's with ACPI. It's pretty much a "given" that you can not use ACPI with some Sony Laptop models. When you disabled ACPI, you still got a hang; it was *that* hang which I was attempting to address. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 13: 0:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492E837B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-88.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365CC43EAF for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:00:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 60B2266E5E; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:00:46 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Nate Lawson , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X problems & 5.0... -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20021014200045.GA51207@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <15786.50928.826403.959175@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <15787.1474.824422.286474@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15787.1474.824422.286474@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:58:26PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: >=20 > Nate Lawson writes: > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > Given that it (apparently) happens on X servers compiled months ago, > > > my gut feeling is that it is a bug in the kernel floating point > > > context save/restore in the presence of signals. > > >=20 > > > I still can't run X without crashing the *kernel* because of the > > > conglomeration of hacks that was added to i386/machdep.c to paper-ov= er > > > floatingpoing problems after the latest KSE brea^W import. The=20 > > > last machdep.c that works for me is 1.539. This has been dragging > > > on for nearly 2 weeks. > > >=20 > > > Drew > >=20 > > I don't know how to say this strongly enough but can someone PLEASE PL= EASE > > fix this properly? It is preventing real work from getting done. >=20 > I think we're all waiting for Julian and Jonathan Mini to fix this.. > It would probably help if they had some sort of a test program that > could duplicate the bug in a controlled setting without a lot of > confusing application software running.. Did anyone test -current with the various FP test suites people posted about last week? Kris --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9qyJtWry0BWjoQKURAo2tAKDpVKm8UmdxVXIz9iM4hHB/ptOo3gCfVsIE rFD2BWEitWFX1x2f1rHRNLM= =FRm6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 13: 8:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F16537B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail17.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE2543EAF for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:08:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 31347 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2002 20:08:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail17.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 14 Oct 2002 20:08:56 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9EK8rn5032040; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:08:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20021014195346.GN19874@procyon.firepipe.net> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:08:59 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Will Andrews Subject: Re: ACPI instability on Sony VAIOs? Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 14-Oct-2002 Will Andrews wrote: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:40:18PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: >> *sigh*, this is not related to his problem. I think the ACPI PCI >> link code has a bug in that it tries to free memory it has not >> allocated (including actual error messages and a trace from ddb() >> could help verify this) and has nothing to do with the TLB on the >> CPU. > > In fact, that is what appears to be the problem (panic() freeing > memory that doesn't exist), but I can't get a traceback without > the debugger on a remote system... unless I manually copy it... DDB over a serial console and 'tr'? You can also get the dmesg up to the point in question with the serial console as well which would help. I'm assuming you can setup the serial console since you are doing remote gdb. :) -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 13:14:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2756237B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from witchspace.com (pc1-rdng1-4-cust239.winn.cable.ntl.com [80.3.250.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD28C43EA9 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:14:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@witchspace.com) Received: (qmail 27203 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2002 20:14:45 -0000 Received: from lexx.witchspace.com (HELO witchspace.com) (192.168.0.1) by dookie.witchspace.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2002 20:14:45 -0000 Message-ID: <3DAB25B5.6000305@witchspace.com> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:14:45 +0100 From: Jonathan Belson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juli Mallett Cc: John Angelmo , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quickcam References: <3DA9D8AE.5030409@veidit.net> <20021013134932.A12594@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Juli Mallett wrote: > I was working on porting the Linux driver for this to freebsd's kernel > at one point. In general, your best shot is to find something that > gphoto supports. Was that the QuickCam Express? I started doing that also, but John Hay did it first. There were some issues with the driver, but they might have Gone Away with all the usb fixes that have been done since. --Jon http://www.witchspace.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 13:25:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E660337B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from procyon.firepipe.net (procyon.firepipe.net [198.78.66.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699DF43EAC for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:25:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@csociety.org) Received: by procyon.firepipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 516522129F; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:24:02 -0700 From: Will Andrews To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ACPI instability on Sony VAIOs? Message-ID: <20021014202402.GO19874@procyon.firepipe.net> Mail-Followup-To: current@FreeBSD.org References: <20021014195346.GN19874@procyon.firepipe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 04:08:59PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > DDB over a serial console and 'tr'? > You can also get the dmesg up to the point in question with the > serial console as well which would help. I'm assuming you can > setup the serial console since you are doing remote gdb. :) Yes, but I couldn't find any documentation to tell the kernel to send console kernel messages over the serial line... well, anyway, until now... http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html I don't have time to set it up right now, guess I'll do it tomorrow probably. regards, -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 13:38:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A06D37B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com (mailout08.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6700943EAA for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:38:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from D.Rock@t-online.de) Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 181Byp-0001Qs-00; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:38:23 +0200 Received: from dialin.t-online.de (340029380333-0001@[80.128.204.122]) by fmrl02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 181Byd-2CjhoYC; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:38:11 +0200 Received: from t-online.de (doom [172.23.7.254]) by dialin.t-online.de (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6/Rock) with ESMTP id g9EKVTv62494; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:31:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3DAB29A1.9080901@t-online.de> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:31:29 +0200 From: Daniel Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-AT; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Reifenberger Cc: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: Still under -current: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? References: <20021014003402.P315-100000@nihil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 340029380333-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Reifenberger schrieb: >Hi, >I still get the following panic (2 are attached) under -current >on my notebook when doing a 'portupgrade -R -f kdebase'. >Anyone else sees this? > > Yes, I also do get these type of panics during heavy FS activity (vm fault, double fault, etc.) I can panic my machine really fast if I remove some work directories in /usr/ports while doing a find /usr/ports at the same time. Daniel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 13:38:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2891037B404 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AA843EAA for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:38:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from D.Rock@t-online.de) Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 181Byo-0000Z2-0C; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:38:22 +0200 Received: from dialin.t-online.de (340029380333-0001@[80.128.204.122]) by fmrl02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 181Byc-2CjhoXC; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:38:10 +0200 Received: from t-online.de (doom [172.23.7.254]) by dialin.t-online.de (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6/Rock) with ESMTP id g9EKbrv62531 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:37:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3DAB2B21.5050205@t-online.de> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:37:53 +0200 From: Daniel Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-AT; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Perl 5.8 broken in current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 340029380333-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, perl-5.8 seems to be severely broken in current. If I compile it with optimization enabled "make test" fails at t/op/pat, test 640. Only with no optimization at all this test succeeded. I tried the following options make CPUTYPE=i386 CFLAGS=-g => success make CPUTYPE=i386 CFLAGS=-O2 => failure make CPUTYPE=k6 => failure make (default values: -mcpu=pentiumpro -O) => failure Also perl is painfully slow. Above test (t/op/pat) requires over 2 Minutes to complete (on my AMD K6-2/300). The same test on a Solaris/x86 Maschine (P II 450) only takes 7 seconds. gcc-3.2 on my Solaris(x86) also has no problems compiling and testing perl-5.8 Some other tests take even hours to complete. I wonder what is going on inside perl? Daniel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 13:40:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9A337B401; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A899743E9C; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021014204007.XZBT24595.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:40:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA75416; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:24:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Jonathan Belson Cc: Juli Mallett , John Angelmo , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quickcam In-Reply-To: <3DAB25B5.6000305@witchspace.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On a related note... I woulder if it might be a worthwhile project to start a "FreeBSD videoconference" project.. i.e. using a set of tools that are definitly supported and a supported videocam, we could say "If you get this camera, and load the following ports, you will be able to take part in conferences by attaching to the following freeBSD address" If we used the old 'wb' tool we could even have discussions that peiple without cameras could follow.. If we got enough regionall FreeBSD using ISPs on board we could do enough load-sharing that it wouldn't kill any particular member. It'd have been nice if (for example) the KSE talk I did last week at BAFUG could have been to a wider audience.. (more audience == more feedback) julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 13:44:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7D437B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blarf.homeip.net (adsl-209-204-188-56.sonic.net [209.204.188.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B6E43EAC for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:44:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sonicmail@blarf.homeip.net) Received: by blarf.homeip.net (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 85B1017AB; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:44:07 -0700 From: Alex Zepeda To: Daniel Rock , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Perl 5.8 broken in current Message-ID: <20021014204407.GA13015@blarf.homeip.net> References: <3DAB2B21.5050205@t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DAB2B21.5050205@t-online.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 10:37:53PM +0200, Daniel Rock wrote: > If I compile it with optimization enabled "make test" fails at t/op/pat, > test 640. Only with no optimization at all this test succeeded. I tried > the following options So turn off the optimizations? gcc's code optimizations are broken, and should be avoided. If you want to break perl 5.6 you can do so with -O3 -march=pentiumpro (somehow I suspect -O2 would have the same effect). Besides, that just goes to show, it's not perl that's broken.. rather it's the compiler. - alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 13:50:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C81F37B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E828843E97 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:50:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04914; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:50:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g9EKnpC54197; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:49:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15787.11759.333059.906194@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:49:51 -0400 (EDT) To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Nate Lawson , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X problems & 5.0... -RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <20021014200045.GA51207@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <15786.50928.826403.959175@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <15787.1474.824422.286474@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20021014200045.GA51207@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway writes: > > I think we're all waiting for Julian and Jonathan Mini to fix this.. > > It would probably help if they had some sort of a test program that > > could duplicate the bug in a controlled setting without a lot of > > confusing application software running.. > > Did anyone test -current with the various FP test suites people posted > about last week? I couldn't make any sense of them. Perhaps the gcc regression tests might be better. Where does one download them? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 14 14:36:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E5E37B401; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E905843EAC; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:36:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: from panzer.kdm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by panzer.kdm.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9ELaIKD080379; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:36:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g9ELaHxZ080378; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:36:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:36:17 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Mitsuru IWASAKI Cc: jhb@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCI problems with today's current Message-ID: <20021014153617.A80354@panzer.kdm.org> References: <20021004204606.A8882@panzer.kdm.org> <20021005.120947.58431680.iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20021005230043.A19273@panzer.kdm.org> <20021006.142541.67030894.iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021006.142541.67030894.iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org>; from iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org on Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 02:25:41PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 14:25:41 +0900, Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote: > Hi, > > > I tried the patches you checked in, and PCI bus 2 on my machine still isn't > > probed. See the attached dmesg. > > > > I'm a bit confused about just what sort of file the ACPI code expects to > > load on boot. > > > > I installed the acpicatools port, so I've got iasl(1), but it appears to > > have 4 output modes (C or assembly source, C or assembly hex table), at > > least for AML output (which acpi(4) says is what you need to load), and > > no output modes for DSDT files. > > Ok, you got errors from iasl, like; > SupermicroP3TDE6.new.asl 56: Scope(DEB_) { > Error 1077 - ^ Existing object has invalid type for Scope operator (DEB_, Integer) > > This is invalid, so ACPI CA interpreter in our kernel complains; > ACPI-0623: *** Warning: Type override - [DEB_] had invalid type (Integer) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) > > But never mind, you can force to compile the ASL and generate DSDT; > # iasl -i SupermicroP3TDE6.new.asl > then copy generated acpi_dsdt.aml to /boot/. > # cp acpi_dsdt.aml /boot/ Okay, I did that, and then typed the following at the boot prompt: set acpi_dsdt_load="YES" set acpi_dsdt_name="/boot/acpi_dsdt.aml" Things still don't seem to be working properly. I've attached dmesg output. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dmesg.nobus2.20021014" Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Oct 13 23:10:47 MDT 2002 ken@nargothrond.kdm.org:/usr/home/ken/perforce/FreeBSD-ken/src/sys/i386/compile/gondolin Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel.test32/kernel" at 0xc0569000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel.test32/acpi.ko" at 0xc05690b0. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (1266.06-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6b1 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 2684289024 (2621376K bytes) avail memory = 2602561536 (2541564K bytes) Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #1 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 4, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec00000 io1 (APIC): apic id: 5, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec01000 Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled ACPI-0623: *** Warning: Type override - [DEB_] had invalid type (Integer) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0623: *** Warning: Type override - [MLIB] had invalid type (Integer) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0623: *** Warning: Type override - [IO__] had invalid type (Integer) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0623: *** Warning: Type override - [DATA] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0623: *** Warning: Type override - [SIO_] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0623: *** Warning: Type override - [SB__] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0623: *** Warning: Type override - [PM__] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0623: *** Warning: Type override - [ICNT] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0623: *** Warning: Type override - [ACPI] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0623: *** Warning: Type override - [OSB4] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0623: *** Warning: Type override - [PM__] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0623: *** Warning: Type override - [BIOS] had invalid type (Integer) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0623: *** Warning: Type override - [CMOS] had invalid type (Integer) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model. Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz Using $PIR table, 10 entries at 0xc00f52e0 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x508-0x50b on acpi0 acpi_cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_cpu1: on acpi0 acpi_cpu2: on acpi0 acpi_cpu3: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 ---- initial configuration ------------------------ ---- before setting priority for links ------------ ---- before fixup boot-disabled links ------------- ---- after fixup boot-disabled links -------------- ---- arbitrated configuration --------------------- pci0: on pcib0 IOAPIC #1 intpin 10 -> irq 2 IOAPIC #1 intpin 11 -> irq 5 IOAPIC #1 intpin 15 -> irq 9 pcib1: at device 0.1 on pci0 ---- initial configuration ------------------------ ---- before setting priority for links ------------ ---- before fixup boot-disabled links ------------- ---- after fixup boot-disabled links -------------- ---- arbitrated configuration --------------------- pci1: on pcib1 IOAPIC #1 intpin 14 -> irq 11 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) ahc0: port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xfeafc000-0xfeafcfff irq 2 at device 5.0 on pci0 aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs ahc1: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xfeaff000-0xfeafffff irq 5 at device 5.1 on pci0 aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs fxp0: port 0xd400-0xd43f mem 0xfe900000-0xfe9fffff,0xfeafd000-0xfeafdfff irq 9 at device 6.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:30:48:21:bb:74 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto isab0: port 0x580-0x58f at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at device 15.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 15.2 (no driver attached) pcib2: on acpi0 acpi0: couldn't attach pci busdevice_probe_and_attach: pcib2 attach returned 6 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3 sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio1 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0 port 0x778-0x77f,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppi0: on ppbus0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port pcib2: on acpi0 acpi0: couldn't attach pci busdevice_probe_and_attach: pcib2 attach returned 6 fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3 orm0: