From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jan 20 0: 8:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3927E37B400 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 00:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ys97y ([66.61.49.164]) by Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sun, 20 Jan 2002 03:07:05 -0500 Message-ID: <006101c1a1a2$fa5171e0$6401a8c0@yungwoongmoon.goh> From: "Sung-Shik Yang" To: Subject: cdrom Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 03:09:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005E_01C1A15F.EC037860" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C1A15F.EC037860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, I was trying to install FreeBSD 4.4 on an old Pentium machine from = CDROM, but it didn't even detect the CDROM. The following is the spec. Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB RAM Separate I/O controller card (Winbond chip, SMC chip), which connects to = an HDD and an FDD. One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE Master). SoundBlaster 16 card. CDROM manufactured by Creative Labs Inc., which made the sound card = above. Strange thing is, the BIOS wouldn't define the CDROM. There's 4 IDE = sections (Pri. master/slave, Sec. master/slave), but they are specificly = for HDD configuration with cyl/head/sec stuff. If I just put = "user"(-defined) option there and make the cyl/head/sec fields as 0, = then the setup freezes even before memory checking step. So, I have to = leave all three IDE settings as "none" at least to boot normally. The sound card has two ports. The indicator says one of them is "IDE = interface" and the other is "SoundBlaster Pro / Panasonic CDROM" or = something. Currently the CDROM cable is connected to the "IDE = interface" port of the sound card. The jumper at the back of the CDROM = drive is set as "slave". So, I guess it signifies that the CDROM should = be treated as primary slave IDE device, while the BIOS doesn't even know = its presence. Even more strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected = somehow and runs fine. Any ideas or advices? Sung-Shik Yang =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Make what is impossible possible. Man can die only once, not twice. - Special Warfare Command Do what a man can do,=20 then wait for heaven's will. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C1A15F.EC037860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,
 
I was trying to install FreeBSD = 4.4 on an=20 old Pentium machine from CDROM, but it didn't even detect the = CDROM.  The=20 following is the spec.
 
Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB = RAM
Separate I/O controller card = (Winbond chip,=20 SMC chip), which connects to an HDD and = an FDD.
One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE=20 Master).
SoundBlaster 16 = card.
CDROM manufactured by Creative = Labs Inc.,=20 which made the sound card above.
 
Strange thing is, the BIOS = wouldn't define=20 the CDROM.  There's 4 IDE sections (Pri. master/slave, Sec. = master/slave),=20 but they are specificly for HDD configuration with cyl/head/sec = stuff.  If=20 I just put "user"(-defined) option there and make the cyl/head/sec = fields as 0,=20 then the setup freezes even before memory checking step.  So, I = have to=20 leave all three IDE settings as "none" at least to boot = normally.
 
The sound card has two = ports.  The=20 indicator says one of them is "IDE interface" and the other is = "SoundBlaster Pro=20 / Panasonic CDROM" or something.  Currently the CDROM cable is = connected to the "IDE interface" port of the sound = card.  The=20 jumper at the back of the CDROM drive is set as "slave".  So, I = guess it=20 signifies that the CDROM should be treated as primary slave = IDE=20 device, while the BIOS doesn't even know its presence.  Even = more=20 strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected somehow and runs=20 fine.
 
Any ideas or = advices?
 
 
Sung-Shik=20 Yang
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Make what is impossible=20 possible.
Man can die only once, not=20 twice.
        - Special Warfare=20 Command
Do what a man can do,
   then wait for heaven's = will.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C1A15F.EC037860-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jan 20 1:54:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from fepA.post.tele.dk (fepA.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C5E37B404 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 01:54:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from DELL01 ([62.242.76.245]) by fepA.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020120095407.RVST27566.fepA.post.tele.dk@DELL01>; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 10:54:07 +0100 Message-ID: <001701c1a199$739ad640$0601a8c0@DELL01> From: "Kristian Hansen" To: "Sung-Shik Yang" Cc: References: <006101c1a1a2$fa5171e0$6401a8c0@yungwoongmoon.goh> Subject: Re: cdrom Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:01:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C1A1A1.D531ECB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C1A1A1.D531ECB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, This CD-ROm drive you're using is _not_ an IDE drive, hence it does not = show in the BIOS. The drive is likely to be an OEM Matshushita 2x speed drive. It uses a = proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE interface. There is a driver for FreeBSD for this device (matcd), but it is not in = the generic kernel.=20 You have two optios for how to install: 1) Make a custom kernel, including the matcd driver and create your own = boot floppy. You should then be able to proceed with the install. You = cannot tell the installer to install from a cd drive at this stage, = rather you should tell the installer to use a disk partition. As far as = I remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount point. 2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then create a custom kernel including = the matcd driver. If you have a fast and stable connection to the = internet, this is the option I'll recommend you use. Regards Kristian Hansen ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sung-Shik Yang=20 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: cdrom Hi everyone, =20 I was trying to install FreeBSD 4.4 on an old Pentium machine from = CDROM, but it didn't even detect the CDROM. The following is the spec. =20 Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB RAM Separate I/O controller card (Winbond chip, SMC chip), which connects = to an HDD and an FDD. One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE Master). SoundBlaster 16 card. CDROM manufactured by Creative Labs Inc., which made the sound card = above. =20 Strange thing is, the BIOS wouldn't define the CDROM. There's 4 IDE = sections (Pri. master/slave, Sec. master/slave), but they are specificly = for HDD configuration with cyl/head/sec stuff. If I just put = "user"(-defined) option there and make the cyl/head/sec fields as 0, = then the setup freezes even before memory checking step. So, I have to = leave all three IDE settings as "none" at least to boot normally. =20 The sound card has two ports. The indicator says one of them is "IDE = interface" and the other is "SoundBlaster Pro / Panasonic CDROM" or = something. Currently the CDROM cable is connected to the "IDE = interface" port of the sound card. The jumper at the back of the CDROM = drive is set as "slave". So, I guess it signifies that the CDROM should = be treated as primary slave IDE device, while the BIOS doesn't even know = its presence. Even more strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected = somehow and runs fine. =20 Any ideas or advices? =20 Sung-Shik Yang = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Make what is impossible possible. Man can die only once, not twice. - Special Warfare Command Do what a man can do,=20 then wait for heaven's will. = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C1A1A1.D531ECB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
This CD-ROm drive you're using is _not_ = an IDE=20 drive, hence it does not show in the BIOS.
The drive is likely to be an OEM = Matshushita 2x=20 speed drive. It uses a proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE=20 interface.
 
There is a driver for FreeBSD for this = device=20 (matcd), but it is not in the generic kernel.
You have two optios for how to=20 install:
1) Make a custom kernel, including the = matcd driver=20 and create your own boot floppy. You should then be able to proceed with = the=20 install. You cannot tell the installer to install from a cd drive at = this stage,=20 rather you should tell the installer to use a disk partition. As far as = I=20 remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount = point.
 
2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then = create a=20 custom kernel including the matcd driver. If you have a fast and stable=20 connection to the internet, this is the option I'll recommend you=20 use.
 
Regards
 
Kristian Hansen
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Sung-Shik Yang=20
To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org =
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 = 12:09=20 PM
Subject: cdrom

Hi everyone,
 
I was trying to install = FreeBSD 4.4 on an=20 old Pentium machine from CDROM, but it didn't even detect the = CDROM.  The=20 following is the spec.
 
Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB = RAM
Separate I/O controller card = (Winbond=20 chip, SMC chip), which connects to an HDD and=20 an FDD.
One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE=20 Master).
SoundBlaster 16 = card.
CDROM manufactured by = Creative Labs Inc.,=20 which made the sound card above.
 
Strange thing is, the BIOS = wouldn't=20 define the CDROM.  There's 4 IDE sections (Pri. master/slave, = Sec.=20 master/slave), but they are specificly for HDD configuration with = cyl/head/sec=20 stuff.  If I just put "user"(-defined) option there and make the=20 cyl/head/sec fields as 0, then the setup freezes even before memory = checking=20 step.  So, I have to leave all three IDE settings as "none" at = least to=20 boot normally.
 
The sound card has two = ports.  The=20 indicator says one of them is "IDE interface" and the other is = "SoundBlaster=20 Pro / Panasonic CDROM" or something.  Currently the CDROM = cable is=20 connected to the "IDE interface" port of the sound = card.  The=20 jumper at the back of the CDROM drive is set as "slave".  So, I = guess it=20 signifies that the CDROM should be treated as primary slave = IDE=20 device, while the BIOS doesn't even know its presence.  Even = more=20 strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected somehow and runs=20 fine.
 
Any ideas or = advices?
 
 
Sung-Shik=20 = Yang
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Make what is impossible=20 possible.
Man can die only once, not=20 twice.
        - Special Warfare = Command
Do what a man can do,
   then wait for = heaven's=20 = will.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C1A1A1.D531ECB0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jan 20 13:40:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA7937B404 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25775 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:40:28 +1100 (EDT) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37641) with ESMTP id <01KDBRWXRO68VFMI0J@cim.alcatel.com.au> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:40:38 +1100 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0KLeQX63284 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:40:26 +1100 Content-return: prohibited Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:40:26 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Kouwell SCSI cards To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-id: <20020121084025.B72285@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know if the Kouwell SCSI cards (specifically KW-930W) are supported by FreeBSD? The controller chip appears to be an Initio INIO-1060 (based on the picture on the box). Based on a search of NOTES and /sys/pci, I suspect it isn't but thought I'd ask. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jan 20 16:22: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2294337B47C; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [212.73.210.73]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 55F2A16B16; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:21:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from LenConrad.Go2France.com [193.117.38.15] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A33349803D8; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:39:15 +0100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020121002104.02b61ec0@mail.Go2France.com> X-Sender: LConrad@Go2France.com@mail.Go2France.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 00:21:45 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Len Conrad Subject: 64-bit PCI mobos Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What are the recommendations for FreeBSD? Looking to use 64-bit SCSI and 64-bit ATA RAID controllers. thanks Len http://MenAndMice.com/DNS-training http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : ISC BIND 8.2.4 for NT4 & W2K http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-abuse mail gateways To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jan 20 16:37:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E217037B417; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:37:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g0L0ZcR54060; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:35:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ken) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:35:38 -0700 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Len Conrad Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 64-bit PCI mobos Message-ID: <20020120173538.A54035@panzer.kdm.org> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020121002104.02b61ec0@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020121002104.02b61ec0@mail.Go2France.com>; from LConrad@Go2France.com on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:21:45AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 00:21:45 +0000, Len Conrad wrote: > What are the recommendations for FreeBSD? > > Looking to use 64-bit SCSI and 64-bit ATA RAID controllers. I've had good luck with the Supermicro 370DE6 and P3TDE6 boards. They have 4 64/33 PCI slots and 2 64/66 slots, as well as an onboard Adaptec 7899. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jan 20 19:17: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from beck.quonix.net (beck.quonix.net [64.239.136.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E3B37B402; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:16:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (pa-steclge-u1-c6b-190.stcgpa.adelphia.net [24.54.120.190]) by beck.quonix.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0L3Dwg03426; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:13:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@essenz.com) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:13:18 -0500 Subject: Re: 64-bit PCI mobos From: John Von Essen To: Len Conrad , , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020121002104.02b61ec0@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would recommend the TYAN 2518 with ServerWorks chipset. Supports two 64-bit PCI slots, dual Pentium III, 4 Gb RAM, optional Ultra160 SCSI onboard. This board works very well with FreeBSD. JVE on 1/20/02 7:21 PM, LConrad@Go2France.com wrote: > What are the recommendations for FreeBSD? > > Looking to use 64-bit SCSI and 64-bit ATA RAID controllers. > > thanks > Len > > > http://MenAndMice.com/DNS-training > http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : ISC BIND 8.2.4 for NT4 & W2K > http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-abuse mail gateways > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jan 20 22: 3: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6308737B41B for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:02:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ys97y ([66.61.49.164]) by Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:02:44 -0500 Message-ID: <018a01c1a25a$c622a480$6401a8c0@yungwoongmoon.goh> From: "Sung-Shik Yang" To: "Kristian Hansen" Cc: References: <006101c1a1a2$fa5171e0$6401a8c0@yungwoongmoon.goh> <001701c1a199$739ad640$0601a8c0@DELL01> Subject: Re: cdrom Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:05:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0187_01C1A217.B7D631A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0187_01C1A217.B7D631A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for your tips Kristian. I think I should do some kind of remote installation. FTP installation = maybe the choice. But, this machine only has modem. I have another = machine that has Linux on it. Can I use PLIP to do the job? Since this = machine I want to install FreeBSD on is pretty old machine, I am not = sure if there are any NICs that fit to it. Gosh, I need to set the = Linux machine first to explore the option of PLIP. Once I succeed in FreeBSD installation, recognizing the CDROM drive is = going to be the next challenge. Long way to go. Is there any advice on = my possible options? Can I set up the Linux machine as the FTP server = to get the FreeBSD source? Pentium I (233MHz) Pentium I (75MHz) 64MB RAM 40MB RAM NIC No NIC Modem (56K) Modem (56K) Serial/Parallel ports Serial/Parallel ports I also have a router which connects the Linux machine and another = machine running Win98 - I don't regard this machine as an option to use, = though. Sung-Shik Yang =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Make what is impossible possible. Man can die only once, not twice. - Special Warfare Command Do what a man can do,=20 then wait for heaven's will. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kristian Hansen=20 To: Sung-Shik Yang=20 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 2:01 AM Subject: Re: cdrom Hi, This CD-ROm drive you're using is _not_ an IDE drive, hence it does = not show in the BIOS. The drive is likely to be an OEM Matshushita 2x speed drive. It uses a = proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE interface. There is a driver for FreeBSD for this device (matcd), but it is not = in the generic kernel.=20 You have two optios for how to install: 1) Make a custom kernel, including the matcd driver and create your = own boot floppy. You should then be able to proceed with the install. = You cannot tell the installer to install from a cd drive at this stage, = rather you should tell the installer to use a disk partition. As far as = I remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount point. 2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then create a custom kernel including = the matcd driver. If you have a fast and stable connection to the = internet, this is the option I'll recommend you use. Regards Kristian Hansen ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sung-Shik Yang=20 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: cdrom Hi everyone, I was trying to install FreeBSD 4.4 on an old Pentium machine from = CDROM, but it didn't even detect the CDROM. The following is the spec. Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB RAM Separate I/O controller card (Winbond chip, SMC chip), which = connects to an HDD and an FDD. One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE Master). SoundBlaster 16 card. CDROM manufactured by Creative Labs Inc., which made the sound card = above. Strange thing is, the BIOS wouldn't define the CDROM. There's 4 IDE = sections (Pri. master/slave, Sec. master/slave), but they are specificly = for HDD configuration with cyl/head/sec stuff. If I just put = "user"(-defined) option there and make the cyl/head/sec fields as 0, = then the setup freezes even before memory checking step. So, I have to = leave all three IDE settings as "none" at least to boot normally. The sound card has two ports. The indicator says one of them is = "IDE interface" and the other is "SoundBlaster Pro / Panasonic CDROM" or = something. Currently the CDROM cable is connected to the "IDE = interface" port of the sound card. The jumper at the back of the CDROM = drive is set as "slave". So, I guess it signifies that the CDROM should = be treated as primary slave IDE device, while the BIOS doesn't even know = its presence. Even more strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected = somehow and runs fine. Any ideas or advices? Sung-Shik Yang = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Make what is impossible possible. Man can die only once, not twice. - Special Warfare Command Do what a man can do,=20 then wait for heaven's will. = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ------=_NextPart_000_0187_01C1A217.B7D631A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for your tips = Kristian.
 
I think I should do = some kind of=20 remote installation.  FTP installation maybe the choice.  But, = this=20 machine only has modem.  I have another machine that has Linux on = it. =20 Can I use PLIP to do the job?  Since this machine I want to = install=20 FreeBSD on is pretty old machine, I am not sure if there are any NICs = that fit=20 to it.  Gosh, I need to set the Linux machine first to explore the = option=20 of PLIP.
 
Once I succeed in FreeBSD = installation,=20 recognizing the CDROM drive is going to be the next challenge.  = Long way to=20 go.  Is there any advice on my possible options?  Can I set=20 up the Linux machine as the FTP server to get the FreeBSD=20 source?
 
 
<Machine A=20 (Linux)>       <Machine B (to = install=20 FreeBSD)>
Pentium I=20 (233MHz)        Pentium I=20 (75MHz)
64MB=20 RAM           &nbs= p;     =20 40MB RAM
NIC          &= nbsp;           =20 No NIC
Modem (56K)        =        Modem=20 (56K)
Serial/Parallel=20 ports     Serial/Parallel ports
 
 
I also have a router which = connects the=20 Linux machine and another machine running Win98 - I don't regard = this=20 machine as an option to use, though.
 
 
 
Sung-Shik = Yang
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Make what is=20 impossible possible.
Man can die only once, not=20 twice.
        - Special Warfare=20 Command
Do what a man can do,
   then wait for heaven's = will.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kristian Hansen =
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 = 2:01=20 AM
Subject: Re: cdrom

Hi,
 
This CD-ROm drive you're using is = _not_ an IDE=20 drive, hence it does not show in the BIOS.
The drive is likely to be an OEM = Matshushita 2x=20 speed drive. It uses a proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE = interface.
 
There is a driver for FreeBSD for = this device=20 (matcd), but it is not in the generic kernel.
You have two optios for how to=20 install:
1) Make a custom kernel, including = the matcd=20 driver and create your own boot floppy. You should then be able to = proceed=20 with the install. You cannot tell the installer to install from a cd = drive at=20 this stage, rather you should tell the installer to use a disk = partition. As=20 far as I remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount=20 point.
 
2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then = create a=20 custom kernel including the matcd driver. If you have a fast and = stable=20 connection to the internet, this is the option I'll recommend you=20 use.
 
Regards
 
Kristian Hansen
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Sung-Shik=20 Yang
To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org= =20
Sent: Sunday, January 20, = 2002 12:09=20 PM
Subject: cdrom

Hi everyone,
 
I was trying to install = FreeBSD 4.4 on=20 an old Pentium machine from CDROM, but it didn't even detect the=20 CDROM.  The following is the spec.
 
Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB=20 RAM
Separate I/O controller = card (Winbond=20 chip, SMC chip), which connects to an HDD and=20 an FDD.
One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE=20 Master).
SoundBlaster 16 = card.
CDROM manufactured by = Creative Labs=20 Inc., which made the sound card above.
 
Strange thing is, the BIOS = wouldn't=20 define the CDROM.  There's 4 IDE sections (Pri. master/slave, = Sec.=20 master/slave), but they are specificly for HDD configuration with=20 cyl/head/sec stuff.  If I just put "user"(-defined) option = there and=20 make the cyl/head/sec fields as 0, then the setup freezes even = before memory=20 checking step.  So, I have to leave all three IDE settings as = "none" at=20 least to boot normally.
 
The sound card has two = ports.  The=20 indicator says one of them is "IDE interface" and the other is = "SoundBlaster=20 Pro / Panasonic CDROM" or something.  Currently the CDROM = cable is=20 connected to the "IDE interface" port of the sound = card.  The=20 jumper at the back of the CDROM drive is set as "slave".  So, I = guess=20 it signifies that the CDROM should be treated = as primary slave IDE=20 device, while the BIOS doesn't even know its presence.  = Even more=20 strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected somehow and runs=20 fine.
 
Any ideas or = advices?
 
 
Sung-Shik=20 = Yang
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Make what is impossible=20 possible.
Man can die only once, not=20 twice.
        - Special = Warfare=20 Command
Do what a man can do,
   then wait for = heaven's=20 = will.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
------=_NextPart_000_0187_01C1A217.B7D631A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jan 21 1: 4:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cc-gw.1anetworks.net (cc-gw.1anetworks.net [193.243.179.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D230E37B405 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:04:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from brian (brian.1anetworks.net [212.36.98.200]) by parma.1anetworks.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA03415; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:04:39 GMT From: "Bri" To: "Brett Glass" , Subject: RE: 4.4-RELEASE hangs on boot with Promise Ultra100 TX2 installed Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:24:00 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020119165014.00ddc460@localhost> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I get the same problem occasionally with the FastTrak-100 and it happened yesterday says time out for ata-slave and it like loops down the sccreeen at speed I think its some sort of IRQ conflict although on the Ultra TX-2 I have I've never experienced this problem all though I've never had problems with IRQ's on that machine like I have on the other. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Brett Glass Sent: 20 January 2002 00:28 To: Lawrence Farr; hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: 4.4-RELEASE hangs on boot with Promise Ultra100 TX2 installed At 04:11 AM 1/19/2002, Lawrence Farr wrote: >Have you tried the floppies from the 4.5 RC? > >Lawrence Farr >EPC Direct Limited Here's what's happening. I was having trouble finding 4.5-RC2 (Which server is it on? One thing that's missing from the FreeBSD Web pages is a roadmap showing what's on which server...) so I got floppies from the January 18 snapshot on releng4.freebsd.org. (This may in fact be RC2; I'm not sure how to tell which snapshot they have dubbed the second release candidate). After interrupting the boot process and entering "boot -h" to force the install to go headless, I got the hard drives to work on the Promise controller. Hallelujah. I checked the CVS tree to find out why. Apparently, Soren Schmidt changed the code only a couple of weeks ago. It now recognizes the latest Promise chip's identifier. It then sets a couple of bits in a register, and -- presto! -- the chip works. Those bits also had to be set in the previous release of the chip, and will probably need to be set in all future versions. Alas, the way the driver is now coded, each new version of the chip will almost certainly fail to work until the driver is updated to accommodate it. He might want to change the logic so that the register is always twiddled unless the driver sees an OLDER version of the chip. If he does this, newer Promise chips will work by default instead of failing by default. I also checked the other BSDs. The same tweak seems to have been added to OpenBSD-current and NetBSD-current, but neither has put it in a release yet. In short, neither NetBSD 1.5.2 nor OpenBSD 3.0 nor FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE works out of the box with the Promise Ultra100 TX2 chip, even though the chip has been out nearly a year. FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE will have the distinction of being the first BSD release that does. The only trouble is, I was hoping to deploy the machine this weekend. Alas, because this is to be a production server the people who own it do not want me to install a "release candidate" of an OS. (They're smart; they know that there are always last-minute "gotchas" and security patches, and they won't always have me there to bring in code as needed.) So, assuming that 4.5-RELEASE is put to bed on the 26th, I may have to tell them that they'll be delayed a week or more. Aargh. --Brett >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Brett Glass >> Sent: 19 January 2002 01:52 >> To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG >> Subject: 4.4-RELEASE hangs on boot with Promise Ultra100 TX2 installed >> >> >> I've been working on a server which has two EIDE chips >> installed: One on >> the motherboard (part of the Intel 440BX chipset) and a >> Promise Ultra100 TX2 >> in a PCI slot. I want to use the latter controller for the >> hard drives -- >> because it's faster -- and use the motherboard chip only for >> the CD-ROM. >> >> Trouble is, FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE to hang in the middle of the >> bootstrap >> process whenever the Promise card is installed. Here are the >> diagnostic >> messages: >> >> \Console: serial port >> BIOS drive A: is disk0 >> BIOS drive C: is disk1 >> BIOS drive D: is disk2 >> BIOS 639kB/1047296kB available memory >> >> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8 >> (root@, Sun Dec 30 00:07:57 MST 2001) >> Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf >> /kernel text=0xf203b data=0x15694+0x10f10 >> syms=[0x4+0x1d2d0+0x4+0x22048] >> \ >> Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. >> Booting [kernel]... >> Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. >> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, >> 1993, 1994 >> The Regents of the University of California. All >> rights reserved. >> FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #0: Sat Dec 29 23:56:12 MST 2001 >> root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/TRIB >> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz >> Timecounter "TSC" frequency 534547942 Hz >> CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (534.55-MHz 686-class CPU) >> Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x665 Stepping = 5 >> >> Features=0x183f9ff> ,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PA >> T,PSE36,MMX,FXSR> >> real memory = 1073479680 (1048320K bytes) >> avail memory = 1043091456 (1018644K bytes) >> pnpbios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum >> Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc025a000. >> Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc025a09c. >> Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled >> Using $PIR table, 7 entries at 0xc00f2ba0 >> npx0: on motherboard >> npx0: INT 16 interface >> pcib0: on >> motherboard >> pci0: on pcib0 >> isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 >> isa0: on isab0 >> atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at >> device 7.1 on pci0 >> >> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 >> ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 >> pci0: at 7.2 irq 10 >> chip1: port >> 0x440-0x44f at device 7. >> 3 on pci0 >> fxp0: port 0xef00-0xef3f >> mem 0xff900000-0xff9f >> ffff,0xffaf7000-0xffaf7fff irq 5 at device 12.0 on pci0 >> fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:11:7c:38 >> inphy0: on miibus0 >> inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto >> fxp1: port 0xee80-0xeebf >> mem 0xff800000-0xff8f >> ffff,0xffaf6000-0xffaf6fff irq 5 at device 13.0 on pci0 >> fxp1: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:11:7c:39 >> inphy1: on miibus1 >> inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto >> atapci1: port >> 0xef90-0xef9f,0xefe0-0xefe3,0xefa8 >> -0xefaf,0xefe4-0xefe7,0xeff0-0xeff7 mem 0xffafc000-0xffafffff >> irq 11 at device 1 >> 4.0 on pci0 >> ata2: at 0xeff0 on atapci1 >> ata3: at 0xefa8 on atapci1 >> fxp2: port 0xed80-0xedbf >> mem 0xff700000-0xff7f >> ffff,0xffaf5000-0xffaf5fff irq 7 at device 15.0 on pci0 >> fxp2: Ethernet address 00:03:47:ad:c2:b2 >> inphy2: on miibus2 >> inphy2: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto >> orm0: