From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Nov 3 1:25:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABF337B401 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 01:25:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com (mailout11.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEE743E97 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 01:25:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garyj@jennejohn.org) Received: from fwd06.sul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 188H0b-0006al-0D; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 10:25:29 +0100 Received: from peedub.jennejohn.org (520017439985-0001@[217.235.105.223]) by fmrl06.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 188H0Z-1byvWCC; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:25:27 +0100 Received: from peedub.jennejohn.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.jennejohn.org (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA39POak004894; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:25:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.jennejohn.org) Message-Id: <200211030925.gA39POak004894@peedub.jennejohn.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.3 To: Oliver Velten Cc: Andrew Gordon , freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: multilink affects voice connections Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Nov 2002 20:31:10 +0100." <3DC427FE.C97298B0@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 10:25:24 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn X-Sender: 520017439985-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oliver Velten writes: > The driver I use is: > # AVM Fritz PCI > device ifpi0 > > and I use a Fritz!PCI version 1 > > I used this card with Windows and Linux without problems using channel > bundling. So I think it's definitive a software problem. > > The only posibility is to change the card? > I'd say so. The problem is that the driver is based on an inofficial Linux port. AVM refused to provide any information on the card to me, even after I signed a NDA. Since I, and the Linux driver developer, don't have enough inofrmation to fix the problem the only way to avoid the whole mess is to use a different card. Or stop using channel bundling, since that switches the card into a mode which results in the error. The same problem most likely also exists in the driver for the version 2 Fritz!PCI. Buy a card from another company. To hell with AVM. --- Gary Jennejohn / garyj@jennejohn.org gj@freebsd.org gj@denx.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Nov 3 4:54:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8688C37B401 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 04:54:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailserv.rz.fh-muenchen.de (tarantel.rz.fh-muenchen.de [129.187.244.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0DD0A43E77 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 04:54:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ovelten@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 26700 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2002 12:56:10 -0000 Received: from diale131.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de (HELO zeus.daheim) (129.187.28.131) by tarantel.rz.fh-muenchen.de with SMTP; 3 Nov 2002 12:56:10 -0000 Received: from gmx.de (apollo.daheim [10.0.0.28]) by zeus.daheim (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA3CrS1H022606; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:53:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ovelten@gmx.de) Message-ID: <3DC51C47.446ABE9@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:53:27 +0100 From: Oliver Velten X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: de,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Jennejohn Cc: Andrew Gordon , freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: multilink affects voice connections References: <200211030925.gA39POak004894@peedub.jennejohn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > Oliver Velten writes: > > The driver I use is: > > # AVM Fritz PCI > > device ifpi0 > > > > and I use a Fritz!PCI version 1 > > > > I used this card with Windows and Linux without problems using channel > > bundling. So I think it's definitive a software problem. > > > > The only posibility is to change the card? > > > > I'd say so. The problem is that the driver is based on an inofficial > Linux port. AVM refused to provide any information on the card to me, > even after I signed a NDA. Since I, and the Linux driver developer, don't > have enough inofrmation to fix the problem the only way to avoid the > whole mess is to use a different card. Or stop using channel bundling, > since that switches the card into a mode which results in the error. > > The same problem most likely also exists in the driver for the version > 2 Fritz!PCI. > > Buy a card from another company. To hell with AVM. > Which card would you recommend? Priority is first full functional second cheap and third easy to install. Is it possible to put the second card in and use the AVM one to listen on the D-Channel for outgoing connections etc.? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Nov 3 8: 9: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC2837B401 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:09:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B3A43E77 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:08:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garyj@jennejohn.org) Received: from fwd10.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 188NJ1-0003Xz-0D; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 17:08:55 +0100 Received: from peedub.jennejohn.org (520017439985-0001@[217.235.123.28]) by fmrl10.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 188NIy-2C1z2OC; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:08:52 +0100 Received: from peedub.jennejohn.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.jennejohn.org (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3G8kak012122; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:08:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.jennejohn.org) Message-Id: <200211031608.gA3G8kak012122@peedub.jennejohn.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.3 To: Oliver Velten Cc: Andrew Gordon , freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: multilink affects voice connections Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:53:27 +0100." <3DC51C47.446ABE9@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 17:08:46 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn X-Sender: 520017439985-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oliver Velten writes: > > Buy a card from another company. To hell with AVM. > > > Which card would you recommend? Priority is first full functional second > cheap and third easy to install. > Can't say. If it's important to you that channel bundling works, which I've never used, then you'll need a recommendation from another user. > Is it possible to put the second card in and use the AVM one to listen > on the D-Channel for outgoing connections etc.? > That should work as long as you don't use the Fritz!PCI in raw mode, such as for channel bundling or telephony. I've never had a problem using a Fritz!PCI with sppp, since that only uses one B-channel. --- Gary Jennejohn / garyj@jennejohn.org gj@freebsd.org gj@denx.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Nov 3 10:11:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F7B37B401 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:11:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from fep02-svc.swip.net (fep02.swip.net [130.244.199.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EC243E8A for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:11:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hselasky@c2i.net) Received: from mta-int.swip.net ([192.168.145.15]) by fep02-svc.swip.net with SMTP id <20021103181119.NPQV17681.fep02-svc.swip.net@mta-int.swip.net>; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:11:19 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [128.39.202.148] From: To: Andrew Gordon , Oliver Velten Cc: Subject: Re: multilink affects voice connections Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:11:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103181119.NPQV17681.fep02-svc.swip.net@mta-int.swip.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Oliver Velten wrote: > > > > I user i4b with FreeBSD 4.6 and userland ppp. Everything works fine as > > long as I don't add a second link. > > When I add a second link with the clone command the link is brought up > > and evereything seems ok. When I close the second link with 'link link1 > > close' and I receive a voice call with my ISDN phone the connection is > > very bad. The person which is calling me does only hear some noisy > > sounds but I can understand the person very well. If you have a TELES S0 USB box (phantom powered) connected to your ISDN line this problem may appear now and then, disturbing outgoing B-channel data. Most likely some device is sending bytes different from 0xff to a B-channel when not in use. The HFC cards are cheap, and work well in PPP mode, and have been checked against this problem. The PCI version is not yet supported, if you are not running current, with the latest new_ihfc driver installed. > > Which hardware/driver are you using? I used to see this with a Fritz!PCI > v1 card (ipfi driver), and the only solution was to switch to a different > type of card (this was not an individual hardware fault - I tried several > Fritz!PCI cards, and I was not the only person having this problem, there > was some discussion on the mailinglists about 2 years ago). > Yours HPS ------------------------------------------------- WebMail fra Tele2 http://www.tele2.no ------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Nov 3 23:34: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F5237B401 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 23:34:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from cubical.fi (gw.cubical.fi [212.226.173.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B47443E75 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 23:34:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jml@cubical.fi) Received: (from root@localhost) by cubical.fi (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA47XwA47462; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:33:58 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from jml@cubical.fi) Received: from skitso.cs-intra.net (skitso.cs-intra.net [192.168.42.8]) by cubical.fi (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with ESMTP id gA47Xu147454; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:33:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from jml@cubical.fi) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:33:56 +0200 (EET) From: Juha-Matti Liukkonen X-X-Sender: jml@skitso.cs-intra.net To: Oliver Velten Cc: Andrew Gordon , Subject: Re: multilink affects voice connections In-Reply-To: <3DC427FE.C97298B0@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20021104093129.W4874-100000@skitso.cs-intra.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, we experienced a similar problem with el-cheapo Winbond based adapters. The problem went away when we tweaked BIOS PCI latency timer settings. The cards were very sensitive to I/O timing. See what BIOS settings you have available -- adjusting them might work for you as well. Br, Juha On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Oliver Velten wrote: > Andrew Gordon wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Oliver Velten wrote: > > > > > > I user i4b with FreeBSD 4.6 and userland ppp. Everything works fine as > > > long as I don't add a second link. > > > When I add a second link with the clone command the link is brought up > > > and evereything seems ok. When I close the second link with 'link link1 > > > close' and I receive a voice call with my ISDN phone the connection is > > > very bad. The person which is calling me does only hear some noisy > > > sounds but I can understand the person very well. > > > > Which hardware/driver are you using? I used to see this with a Fritz!PCI > > v1 card (ipfi driver), and the only solution was to switch to a different > > type of card (this was not an individual hardware fault - I tried several > > Fritz!PCI cards, and I was not the only person having this problem, there > > was some discussion on the mailinglists about 2 years ago). > > > > The driver I use is: > # AVM Fritz PCI > device ifpi0 > > and I use a Fritz!PCI version 1 > > I used this card with Windows and Linux without problems using channel > bundling. So I think it's definitive a software problem. > > The only posibility is to change the card? > > Bye, > Oliver > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message > Cubical Solutions Ltd, Juha-Matti Liukkonen Phone: +358 40 5280142 Email: jml@cubical.fi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message