From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 31 4:23: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.wi.rr.com (fe6.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B64437B430 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 04:22:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from none ([65.31.97.147]) by mail6.wi.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sun, 31 Mar 2002 06:23:33 -0600 Message-ID: <000a01c1d8ae$c39b0470$93611f41@none> From: "Nick Lozinsky" To: Subject: subscribe freebsd-newbies Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 06:22:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1D87C.78DF02B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1D87C.78DF02B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable subscribe freebsd-newbies ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1D87C.78DF02B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1D87C.78DF02B0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 31 10:27:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F8937B419 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 10:27:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from cr478760a ([24.42.0.243]) by fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.04.06 201-253-122-122-106-20020109) with ESMTP id <20020331182656.QQE4585.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@cr478760a> for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 13:26:56 -0500 From: "Vikas Gandhi" To: Subject: USB Mouse in X11 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 13:26:58 -0500 Message-ID: <000201c1d8e1$a7e4de80$f3002a18@cr478760a> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C1D8B7.BF0ED680" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.42.0.243] using ID at Sun, 31 Mar 2002 13:26:48 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C1D8B7.BF0ED680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi guys! I first tried installing FreeBSD from the mini.iso, however I couldn't get XF86 working, so I tried the full install iso. I've installed XF864.1 and run XFree86 -configure. It's detected my radeon, but now I get 2 errors, one is that it says I only have 256kb of video memory and it cant load the screens (I've tried changing this with xfree86 configure) and it can't detect my mouse. I've also tried XF86Setup and put /dev/usbmouse as my mouse.but to no avail. If anyone knows what to do to fix either problem or both, please help me :-) Thanks! -Vikas ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C1D8B7.BF0ED680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi guys!

 

I first tried installing FreeBSD from the mini.iso, however I couldn’t get XF86 working, so I tried the full install = iso. I’ve installed XF864.1 and run XFree86 = –configure. It’s detected my radeon, but now I get = 2 errors, one is that it says I only have 256kb of video memory and it = cant load the screens (I’ve tried changing this with xfree86 configure) and it = can’t detect my mouse. I’ve also tried XF86Setup and put /dev/usbmouse as my mouse…but to no avail. If = anyone knows what to do to fix either problem or both, please help me = J<= /span>

 

Thanks!

-Vikas

------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C1D8B7.BF0ED680-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 31 10:37:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638EB37B405 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 10:37:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scott@localhost) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2VIcCq00709; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 12:38:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 12:38:12 -0600 From: Scott Corey To: Vikas Gandhi Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB Mouse in X11 Message-ID: <20020331183812.GA229@bsdprophet.org> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Corey , Vikas Gandhi , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000201c1d8e1$a7e4de80$f3002a18@cr478760a> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000201c1d8e1$a7e4de80$f3002a18@cr478760a> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First off this isn't -questions. On Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 01:26:58PM -0500, Vikas Gandhi wrote: > Hi guys! > > I first tried installing FreeBSD from the mini.iso, however I couldn't > get XF86 working, so I tried the full install iso. I've installed that makes since, it's not on the mini.iso. > XF864.1 and run XFree86 -configure. It's detected my radeon, but now I fine, this puts a file into your /root (You did run it as root, right?) of XF86Config.new. Did you follow the instructions in the handbook to complete the configuration process? > get 2 errors, one is that it says I only have 256kb of video memory and > it cant load the screens (I've tried changing this with xfree86 > configure) and it can't detect my mouse. I've also tried XF86Setup and XF86Setup is ONLY for XFree86 3.3.6, it WILL not work with 4.x versions. > put /dev/usbmouse as my mouse.but to no avail. If anyone knows what to > do to fix either problem or both, please help me :-) > So doing all of this has done nothing, right? I would recommend that YOU do a LITTLE checking on the handbook, and I'll be nice and give you the url. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html > Thanks! > -Vikas -- Scott B. Corey scott@bsdprophet.org irc.openprojects.net #bsdprophet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 31 10:43:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8746837B400 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 10:43:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from cr478760a ([24.42.0.243]) by fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.04.06 201-253-122-122-106-20020109) with ESMTP id <20020331184332.VEOS213949.fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@cr478760a> for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 13:43:32 -0500 From: "Vikas Gandhi" To: Subject: RE: USB Mouse in X11 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 13:43:19 -0500 Message-ID: <000201c1d8e3$f0484b10$f3002a18@cr478760a> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20020331183812.GA229@bsdprophet.org> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.42.0.243] using ID at Sun, 31 Mar 2002 13:43:21 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org No need to be so fierce. I have read the manual...theres nothing about usb mice in there... -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Corey Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 1:38 PM To: Vikas Gandhi Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB Mouse in X11 First off this isn't -questions. On Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 01:26:58PM -0500, Vikas Gandhi wrote: > Hi guys! > > I first tried installing FreeBSD from the mini.iso, however I couldn't > get XF86 working, so I tried the full install iso. I've installed that makes since, it's not on the mini.iso. > XF864.1 and run XFree86 -configure. It's detected my radeon, but now I fine, this puts a file into your /root (You did run it as root, right?) of XF86Config.new. Did you follow the instructions in the handbook to complete the configuration process? > get 2 errors, one is that it says I only have 256kb of video memory and > it cant load the screens (I've tried changing this with xfree86 > configure) and it can't detect my mouse. I've also tried XF86Setup and XF86Setup is ONLY for XFree86 3.3.6, it WILL not work with 4.x versions. > put /dev/usbmouse as my mouse.but to no avail. If anyone knows what to > do to fix either problem or both, please help me :-) > So doing all of this has done nothing, right? I would recommend that YOU do a LITTLE checking on the handbook, and I'll be nice and give you the url. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html > Thanks! > -Vikas -- Scott B. Corey scott@bsdprophet.org irc.openprojects.net #bsdprophet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 31 10:58:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAEC537B416 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 10:58:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scott@localhost) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2VIwUp00974; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 12:58:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 12:58:28 -0600 From: Scott Corey To: Vikas Gandhi Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB Mouse in X11 Message-ID: <20020331185828.GA720@bsdprophet.org> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Corey , Vikas Gandhi , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020331183812.GA229@bsdprophet.org> <000201c1d8e3$f0484b10$f3002a18@cr478760a> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000201c1d8e3$f0484b10$f3002a18@cr478760a> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Okay, let's assume you have read the Handbook. Questions: 1. Did you edit you basic "X" configuration in your /root dir? 2. Did you move the new "X" configuration into it's proper place? 3. Did you originally configure your mouse in /stand/sysinstall? 4. Why did you try and configure XFree86 3.3.6, if you want to use 4.1? 5. Have you run xf86cfg? 6. What does your XF86Config.new look like? On Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 01:43:19PM -0500, Vikas Gandhi wrote: > No need to be so fierce. I have read the manual...theres nothing about > usb mice in there... > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Corey > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 1:38 PM > To: Vikas Gandhi > Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: USB Mouse in X11 > > First off this isn't -questions. > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 01:26:58PM -0500, Vikas Gandhi wrote: > > Hi guys! > > > > I first tried installing FreeBSD from the mini.iso, however I couldn't > > get XF86 working, so I tried the full install iso. I've installed > > that makes since, it's not on the mini.iso. > > > XF864.1 and run XFree86 -configure. It's detected my radeon, but now I > > fine, this puts a file into your /root (You did run it as root, right?) > of XF86Config.new. > > Did you follow the instructions in the handbook to complete the > configuration process? > > > get 2 errors, one is that it says I only have 256kb of video memory > and > > it cant load the screens (I've tried changing this with xfree86 > > configure) and it can't detect my mouse. I've also tried XF86Setup and > > XF86Setup is ONLY for XFree86 3.3.6, it WILL not work with 4.x > versions. > > > put /dev/usbmouse as my mouse.but to no avail. If anyone knows what to > > do to fix either problem or both, please help me :-) > > > > So doing all of this has done nothing, right? I would recommend that YOU > do a LITTLE checking on the handbook, and I'll be nice and give you the > url. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html > > > Thanks! > > -Vikas > > -- > Scott B. Corey > scott@bsdprophet.org > irc.openprojects.net #bsdprophet > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Scott B. Corey scott@bsdprophet.org irc.openprojects.net #bsdprophet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 31 21: 0: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A2837B41A for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 21:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g314uCd29427; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 20:56:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 20:56:12 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Vikas Gandhi Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB Mouse in X11 In-Reply-To: <000201c1d8e1$a7e4de80$f3002a18@cr478760a> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Vikas Gandhi wrote: > Hi guys! > > I first tried installing FreeBSD from the mini.iso, however I couldn't > get XF86 working, so I tried the full install iso. I've installed > XF864.1 and run XFree86 -configure. It's detected my radeon, but now I > get 2 errors, one is that it says I only have 256kb of video memory and > it cant load the screens (I've tried changing this with xfree86 > configure) and it can't detect my mouse. I've also tried XF86Setup and > put /dev/usbmouse as my mouse.but to no avail. If anyone knows what to > do to fix either problem or both, please help me :-) > > Thanks! > -Vikas > The faq has some information on usb mice and X. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 1 0:42: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail44.fg.online.no (mail44-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EA237B416 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 00:41:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from tocom (ti100720a010-0183.dialup.online.no [130.67.106.183]) by mail44.fg.online.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA05307 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 10:41:53 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <000d01c1d9a6$e3c4ab40$037b4382@tocom> From: "Lal Manavado" To: Subject: FreeBSD and Solaris-8. Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 09:58:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1D963.D2528E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1D963.D2528E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo! I would be very thankful for any information one may have on installing = FreeBSD and Solaris-8 for ia, on a machine with two hard disks. Although I've read the relevant documentation for both os-es, it seems = more complicated than it would first seem. Thanks very much, L. 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Hallo!
 
I would be very thankful for any information one may have on = installing=20 FreeBSD and Solaris-8 for ia, on a machine with two hard disks.
 
Although I've read the relevant documentation for both os-es, it = seems more=20 complicated than it would first seem.
 
Thanks very much,
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1D963.D2528E60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 1 6:53:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bermuda.lcs.mit.edu (bermuda.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.4.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A65637B416; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 06:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from decouto@localhost) by bermuda.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g31Er7i29091; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 09:53:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from decouto@lcs.mit.edu) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 09:53:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200204011453.g31Er7i29091@bermuda.lcs.mit.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: bermuda.lcs.mit.edu: decouto set sender to decouto@lcs.mit.edu using -f From: "Douglas S. J. De Couto" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE on Thinkpad T23 Reply-To: decouto@lcs.mit.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I though people might be interested in the steps to get FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE working, so I wrote it up at: http://www.pdos.lcs.mit.edu/~decouto/t23 I hope it's useful. If you have suggestions, let me know, I can incorporate them on the page. cheers, doug -- Douglas S. J. De Couto decouto@lcs.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 1 8:12: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hal.thedenn.com (ool-18b8f58f.dyn.optonline.net [24.184.245.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF7337B400 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 08:12:03 -0800 (PST) content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: IBM Thinkpad 340 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:11:58 -0500 Message-ID: <38CA48964A285E418F62C5A379437DB2BF3F@hal.thedenn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: IBM Thinkpad 340 Thread-Index: AcHZl/Mtbx+t0AJrTSupT/a2mkpnNg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 From: "Stephen R. Ceasar" To: "Freebsd-Newbies (E-mail)" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So I got an old IBM Thinkpad 340... 125 MB HD & 4 Megs of RAM According to what I've read, the last version I can install and = successfully run is 2.1.7. If necessary with an upgrade from 2.0.5 1. Am I correct? 2. Where can I find such old versions? The FTP site only seems to hold = versions back to 3.5.1. any other input is appreciated. thanks, steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 1 11: 2: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C539C37B43D for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:01:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA73B7; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:01:16 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 10:58:43 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-171.acuson.com [157.226.46.171]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GKG9GD2A; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 10:59:24 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Vikas Gandhi , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: USB Mouse in X11 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:01:05 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <000201c1d8e3$f0484b10$f3002a18@cr478760a> In-Reply-To: <000201c1d8e3$f0484b10$f3002a18@cr478760a> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020401190120.C539C37B43D@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday 31 March 2002 10:43 am, someone wrote: > No need to be so fierce. I have read the manual...theres nothing about > usb mice in there... There's a section on USB mice in the FAQ. It's section 4.15. It talks about setting up the kernel, but I believe that generic kernel is already set up for it. Once the USB mouse is setup for moused, then XFree86 will work without any additional configuration, if you set it to use /dev/sysmouse as normal. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 1 14:10:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz [210.86.15.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B7D37B419 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:10:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta1 ([192.168.69.123]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20020401221026.FMH8792.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1> for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:10:26 +1200 From: To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Root vs User question Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:10:26 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20020401221026.FMH8792.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, How do you turn on autocompletion and command history (DOSKEY-type stuff) for a user. I've added the particular user to the wheel group in /etc/group, but autocomplete still doesn't work. Please help. Craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 1 14:29:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C54037B41B for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:29:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA483B; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:29:40 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:27:08 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-171.acuson.com [157.226.46.171]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GKG9GFZR; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:27:52 -0800 From: Johnson David To: craigtw@xtra.co.nz, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: Root vs User question Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:29:32 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20020401221026.FMH8792.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1> In-Reply-To: <20020401221026.FMH8792.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020401222945.6C54037B41B@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday 01 April 2002 02:10 pm, craigtw@xtra.co.nz wrote: > Hi All, > > How do you turn on autocompletion and command history (DOSKEY-type > stuff) for a user. I've added the particular user to the wheel group in > /etc/group, but autocomplete still doesn't work. Please help. The user doesn't need to be a member of wheel for this. Just use an appropriate shell. Both tcsh and bash (among others) support autocompletion and command history. Bash is better at autocompletion than tcsh. So install bash and change the user's info. See man chpass. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 1 15:52: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from lape.euteka.lt (lsd.linet.lt [213.190.36.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C0A37B41F for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 15:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from tango.euteka.lt (flyer.failanas.lt [212.47.107.49]) by lape.euteka.lt (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -5) with ESMTP id g31NpR9Y027227 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 01:51:29 +0200 Received: from jkj ([192.168.1.178]) by tango.euteka.lt (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -5) with SMTP id g31NpPDX025769 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 01:51:27 +0200 Message-ID: <001701c1d9d8$2e0494a0$b201a8c0@failanas.lt> From: "Zilvinas" To: Subject: PC-FreeBSD Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 01:51:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C1D9E8.F0719460" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C1D9E8.F0719460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-4" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi i have a Intel Pll 400 MHz, 64 mb SDR RAM PC100, 9 gb IBM Janus 7200 = rpm 2 mb cache, i810 video, sound onboard CMI8738, EP-325 compo LAN = card. 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Hi i have a Intel Pll 400 MHz, 64 mb = SDR RAM PC100,=20 9 gb IBM Janus 7200 rpm 2 mb cache, i810 video, sound onboard CMI8738, = EP-325=20 compo LAN card.
 
Will my computer work efficiently with = no errors=20 with FreeBSD?????
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C1D9E8.F0719460-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 1 19:45:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C22137B416 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 19:45:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scott@localhost) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g323kMQ90682; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 21:46:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 21:46:22 -0600 From: Scott Corey To: Zilvinas Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC-FreeBSD Message-ID: <20020402034621.GA90636@bsdprophet.org> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Corey , Zilvinas , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <001701c1d9d8$2e0494a0$b201a8c0@failanas.lt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001701c1d9d8$2e0494a0$b201a8c0@failanas.lt> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org YES! On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 01:51:43AM +0200, Zilvinas wrote: > Hi i have a Intel Pll 400 MHz, 64 mb SDR RAM PC100, 9 gb IBM Janus 7200 rpm 2 mb cache, i810 video, sound onboard CMI8738, EP-325 compo LAN card. > > Will my computer work efficiently with no errors with FreeBSD????? -- Scott B. Corey scott@bsdprophet.org irc.openprojects.net #bsdprophet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 0:45:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [194.228.200.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E85A37B420 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 00:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g328jLm05197; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:45:21 +0200 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.9a) with ESMTP id 2002040210445622:10085 ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:44:56 +0200 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g32909W58273; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 11:00:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 11:00:09 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: craigtw@xtra.co.nz Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Root vs User question Message-ID: <20020402090009.GT389@roman.mobil.cz> Mail-Followup-To: craigtw@xtra.co.nz, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020401221026.FMH8792.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20020401221026.FMH8792.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.9a |January 7, 2002) at 04/02/2002 10:44:56 AM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.9a |January 7, 2002) at 04/02/2002 10:45:02 AM, Serialize complete at 04/02/2002 10:45:02 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Root vs User question > Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:10:26 +1200 please insert linebreaks at ~72 chars. > How do you turn on autocompletion and command history > (DOSKEY-type stuff) for a user. I've added the particular user > to the wheel group in /etc/group, but autocomplete still doesn't > work. Please help. autocompletion and stuff has nothing to do with groups user is in. it is a matter of configuring the user's shell. for tcsh, you might want something like bindkey -b C-I complete-word put this in .tcshrc in the user's home, and type (as that user): > source ~/.tcshrc HTH && HAND -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 10:56AM up 8 days, 17:42, 25 users, load averages: 0.12, 0.06, 0.01 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 9:26:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web11605.mail.yahoo.com (web11605.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4950C37B416 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 09:26:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020402172644.35888.qmail@web11605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.164.9.71] by web11605.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 09:26:44 PST Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 09:26:44 -0800 (PST) From: manny rosa Subject: Installing packages with no internet To: FreeBSD-newbie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've noticed that many of the ports I installed during the OS installation just have package info. pkg_add want's to download the appropriate files (which is excellent) except I have no connection to the internet on my FreeBSD box. I have the 4-CD set, hoping all the packages and ports would be included. I have another computer with internet access but when I try to download ports, I get the same (Makefiles and stuff) but no code. For example, I've looked all over the CDs and have not been able to find "The GIMP." I've found it online, but no package (tgz), just the ports stuff. Is it possible to install this stuff from my CDs instead of the internet? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 9:49:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C74637B419 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 09:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from max ([24.61.57.241]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020402174918.DDFZ18078.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@max>; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 17:49:18 +0000 Message-ID: <200204021249270898.048FEA5D@mail.attbi.com> In-Reply-To: <20020402172644.35888.qmail@web11605.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020402172644.35888.qmail@web11605.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (4) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 12:49:27 -0500 Reply-To: jdarnold@buddydog.org From: "Jonathan Arnold" To: "manny rosa" , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing packages with no internet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >but no code. For example, I've looked all over the CDs yeah, that's what I've been whining about for the last couple of weeks, and several people have challenged me to do something about it. Ie., figure out some nice method for documenting which packages are on which CD. >and have not been able to find "The GIMP." I've found >it online, but no package (tgz), just the ports stuff. AFAIK, if there isn't a "Packages" link when you look for it in the Ports link on the FreeBSD.org web site, there isn't a Package available anywhere, and you can only install it via a Port. Which you can do without an internet connection - you just need to download all the port .tgz files yourself. And it will probably be a pain, as here you'll see a list of dependent ports: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=gimp&stype=all Go and download each one of those and put it into the /usr/ports/distfiles folder. Then do the make from the /usr/ports/graphics/gimp1 folder and follow what it says. I imagine there is some way to tell the make to not go look on the Internet for the ports, to just die, but I don't happen to know it offhand. -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://jdarnold.tzo.com/FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 13:41:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21107.mail.yahoo.com (web21107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA37B37B41B for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:41:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020402214134.15394.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.26.29] by web21107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 13:41:34 PST Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:41:34 -0800 (PST) From: Vinod Subject: Geforce2Go and Freebsd To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org is there anybody out there who has successfully configured X on a dell inspiron 8100 with nvidia geforce2go ? I run 4.5 Release and my inspiron crashes.I know of some drivers available but wanted to confirm from someone who has actually done it to know what to install and from where. Thanks in advance, Vinod __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 15:37:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gyros.marcuscom.com (dhcp-64-102-60-43.cisco.com [64.102.60.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C99237B416; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 15:37:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from gyros.marcuscom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gyros.marcuscom.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g32Nb1x2056292; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 18:37:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: (from marcus@localhost) by gyros.marcuscom.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g32Nb1L0056291; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 18:37:01 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: gyros.marcuscom.com: marcus set sender to marcus@marcuscom.com using -f Subject: Re: Geforce2Go and Freebsd From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Vinod Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020402214134.15394.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020402214134.15394.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-tZxMRdVXA3DR6gzH8+sp" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 Date: 02 Apr 2002 18:37:01 -0500 Message-Id: <1017790621.275.119.camel@gyros.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=-tZxMRdVXA3DR6gzH8+sp Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 16:41, Vinod wrote: > is there anybody out there who has successfully > configured X on a dell inspiron 8100 with nvidia > geforce2go ? I run 4.5 Release and my inspiron > crashes.I know of some drivers available but wanted to > confirm from someone who has actually done it to know > what to install and from where. > Thanks in advance, Check the archives for -mobile. I just submitted a how-to. http://www.marcuscom.com/g2g-xfree86/article.html Joe > Vinod =20 >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message >=20 --=20 PGP Key: http://www.marucscom.com/pgp.asc --=-tZxMRdVXA3DR6gzH8+sp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEABECAAYFAjyqQJ0ACgkQb2iPiv4Uz4eQGgCeKXMXFPph3XtTaC74sWYBbFpy P64AniCqsSJWxdknh5Qh9/N2/Wte2Owa =JpGu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-tZxMRdVXA3DR6gzH8+sp-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 18:20:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sombre.pacific.net.sg (sombre.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404D337B419 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 18:20:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.pacific.net.sg (smtp1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.70]) by sombre.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id g332KYc18346 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:20:34 +0800 Received: from pacific.net.sg (ida130.ida.gov.sg [210.24.194.130]) by smtp1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id g332KYq22077 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:20:34 +0800 Message-ID: <3CAA66C9.D6DDC52A@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 10:19:53 +0800 From: Vinceido Lipose X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Modify boot menu options Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have SCO Unixware 7 and FreeBSD 4.5 running on the same machine. At boot up time, a boot menu is displayed for me to select which OS I want to boot from, for eg, F1 FreeBSD F4 Unix I would like to change the options that appears in the boot menu, for eg, from "Unix" to "SCO Unixware". How should I do it ? Thanks in advance ... -- Regards, Lipos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 18:26:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156E437B416 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 18:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA283B; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 18:26:36 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 18:24:01 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-171.acuson.com [157.226.46.171]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GKG9G5K9; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 18:24:41 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Vinceido Lipose , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: Modify boot menu options Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 18:26:23 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <3CAA66C9.D6DDC52A@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <3CAA66C9.D6DDC52A@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020403022639.156E437B416@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday 02 April 2002 06:19 pm, Vinceido Lipose wrote: > F1 FreeBSD > F4 Unix > > I would like to change the options that appears in the boot menu, for > eg, > from "Unix" to "SCO Unixware". If this is FreeBSD's boot manager, then there is no way to do it. The entries that you see are according to partition type, not installed OS. If you want a boot manager with more customization, options, etc., I would try grub. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 19: 8:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from spade.pacific.net.sg (spade.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C828C37B41A for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 19:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.pacific.net.sg (smtp2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.169]) by spade.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id g33387931110 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:08:07 +0800 Received: from pacific.net.sg (ida130.ida.gov.sg [210.24.194.130]) by smtp2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id g33386Z19268 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:08:06 +0800 Message-ID: <3CAA71E1.AC0DD2F0@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 11:07:13 +0800 From: Vinceido Lipose X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Realtek RTL8139 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I've installed freebsd 4.5 on a fujitsu lifebook s5582 which comes with a built-in Realtek LAN port. However, it seems like the system doesn't detect the Realtek NIC at all. I've included the line in "/etc/rc.conf" : device rl but after the system boots up, "dmesg | grep rl" shows : rl0 : couldn't map to ports/memory How do I resolve this problem ? Thanks ... -- Regards, Lipos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 19: 8:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pioneernet.net (mail.pioneernet.net [207.115.64.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E00B37B41E for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 19:08:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from chip3.wiegand.org [66.114.152.128] by pioneernet.net (SMTPD32-6.06) id A217F67300DC; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 19:08:07 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 19:09:19 -0800 From: Chip Wiegand To: Johnson David Cc: lipos@pacific.net.sg, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modify boot menu options Message-Id: <20020402190919.323c5ba3.chip@wiegand.org> In-Reply-To: <20020403022639.156E437B416@hub.freebsd.org> References: <3CAA66C9.D6DDC52A@pacific.net.sg> <20020403022639.156E437B416@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.5) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 18:26:23 -0800 Johnson David wrote: > On Tuesday 02 April 2002 06:19 pm, Vinceido Lipose wrote: > > > F1 FreeBSD > > F4 Unix > > > > I would like to change the options that appears in the boot menu, > > for eg, > > from "Unix" to "SCO Unixware". > > If this is FreeBSD's boot manager, then there is no way to do it. The > entries that you see are according to partition type, not installed > OS. > > If you want a boot manager with more customization, options, etc., I > would try grub. > > David I have a similar situation - at work I set up a box to dual-boot freebsd and nt. I used the freebsd boot manager and it shows F1 ??? F2 FreeBSD So, I guess from your response I'm stuck with the ??? ? Though since I set this up I have yet to boot into nt for anything, been a couple weeks too. -- Chip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 20:30: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123A837B421 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g334QCd39554; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:26:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:26:12 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: manny rosa Cc: FreeBSD-newbie Subject: Re: Installing packages with no internet In-Reply-To: <20020402172644.35888.qmail@web11605.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, manny rosa wrote: > I've noticed that many of the ports I installed during > the OS installation just have package info. pkg_add > want's to download the appropriate files (which is > excellent) except I have no connection to the internet > on my FreeBSD box. I have the 4-CD set, hoping all the > packages and ports would be included. I have another > computer with internet access but when I try to > download ports, I get the same (Makefiles and stuff) > but no code. For example, I've looked all over the CDs > and have not been able to find "The GIMP." I've found > it online, but no package (tgz), just the ports stuff. > Is it possible to install this stuff from my CDs > instead of the internet? > Each CD has a file in the root directory called filename.txt that lists the files on the CD. In the /packages/All directory are all the packages on that CD. There are also sym links in /packages/archivers etc. Any CD you put in the drive and allow /stand/sysinstall to mount will provide an index of packages on that particular CD. This is not (true) a solution to "Where, if anywhere, is The Gimp package?" However you could copy the filename.txt from each CD to numbered files (e.g., CD1files, CD2files, etc.) and then grep for the names of the packages you want. What would really be nice is to be able to build an index of the filenames on your hard drive, use sysinstall, and have it say "please insert CD3" when you wanted a package on that CD. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 21:29:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tubegator.com (bundy.hibo.no [158.39.60.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 722DB37B41B for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:29:09 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: J@TMEAT's WorldMailer v.04 [still ugly] [modified for tubegator.com maillist] Subject: Daily Joke From: jokebot@tubegator.com To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20020403052909.722DB37B41B@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:29:09 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There was a Japanese man who went to America for sightseeing. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 21:55:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21110.mail.yahoo.com (web21110.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 81E7337B422 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:55:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020403055546.92421.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.26.29] by web21110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 21:55:46 PST Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:55:46 -0800 (PST) From: Vinod Subject: boot at night To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i have freebsd 4.5 release on my dell dimension 4300.but i have noticed that every morning when i come to work ,i see that the boot process has occured and it waits for me to log in as root.whats happening?i don't have this problem with another similar installations on similar machines. 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Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 22:19:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from scythe.pacific.net.sg (scythe.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B68037B41E for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.pacific.net.sg (smtp1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.70]) by scythe.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id g336JKa27316 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 14:19:21 +0800 Received: from pacific.net.sg (ida130.ida.gov.sg [210.24.194.130]) by smtp1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id g336JKq27506 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 14:19:20 +0800 Message-ID: <3CAA9E9A.FA2606B2@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 14:18:03 +0800 From: Vinceido Lipose X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: IRQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, How can I find out which IRQs are taken up by what devices ? -- Regards, Lipos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 22:24:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0033B37B417 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:24:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from scott1.nyc.rr.com (24-168-24-239.nyc.rr.com [24.168.24.239]) by nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (8.12.1/Road Runner SMTP Server 1.0) with ESMTP id g336OsvO015957; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 01:24:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020403012235.00c2e3f0@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> X-Sender: scottro@pop-server.nyc.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 01:24:56 -0500 To: Vinceido Lipose , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Scott Subject: Re: IRQ In-Reply-To: <3CAA9E9A.FA2606B2@pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 14:18 2002/04/03 +0800, Vinceido Lipose wrote: >Hi, > >How can I find out which IRQs are taken up by what devices ? dmesg | grep irq HTH Scott Robbins To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 22:38:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from spade.pacific.net.sg (spade.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3369937B405 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.pacific.net.sg (smtp2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.169]) by spade.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id g336cA901808; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 14:38:10 +0800 Received: from pacific.net.sg (ida130.ida.gov.sg [210.24.194.130]) by smtp2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id g336cAZ17207; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 14:38:10 +0800 Message-ID: <3CAAA301.7BC0F2C9@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 14:36:49 +0800 From: Vinceido Lipose X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IRQ References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020403012235.00c2e3f0@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Scott, Thanks for your help ! Actually that is how I check for IRQ numbers currently, but it's kind of troublesome :) so I asked if there's any less troublesome way. Thanks for your help again ! Scott wrote: > At 14:18 2002/04/03 +0800, Vinceido Lipose wrote: > >Hi, > > > >How can I find out which IRQs are taken up by what devices ? > > dmesg | grep irq > > HTH > Scott Robbins > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Regards, Lipos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 2 22:40:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21107.mail.yahoo.com (web21107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29C0637B41C for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:40:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020403064018.74303.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.26.29] by web21107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 22:40:18 PST Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:40:18 -0800 (PST) From: Vinod Subject: Re: boot at night To: "Patrick O. Fish" Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <006e01c1dad5$16aa18e0$0300a8c0@pwhsnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org here's my log files contents for the time it starts booting at night.it boots every night around 3:20 am. ------------------------------------------------------ Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #0: Mon Jan 28 14:31:56 GMT 2002 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: murray@builder.freebsdmall.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: CPU: Pentium 4 (1594.84-MHz 686-class CPU) Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf12 Stepping = 2 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: Features=0x3febfbff,ACC> Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: real memory = 536309760 (523740K bytes) Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: config> di sn0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: config> di lnc0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: config> di ie0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: config> di fe0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: config> di ed0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: config> di cs0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: config> q Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: avail memory = 517136384 (505016K bytes) Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0496000. Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc049609c. Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: md0: Malloc disk Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: Using $PIR table, 9 entries at 0xc00fba90 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: npx0: on motherboard Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pcib0: on motherboard Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pci0: on pcib0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pci1: on pcib1 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pci1: at 0.0 irq 3 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pci2: on pcib2 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pci2: (vendor=0x1102, dev=0x0002) at 7.0 irq 3 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pci2: (vendor=0x1102, dev=0x7002) at 7.1 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pci_cfgintr_search: linked (61) to configured irq 3 at 1:0:0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pci_cfgintr: 2:8 INTA routed to irq 3 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pcic0: irq 3 at device 8.0 on pci2 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pcic0: PCI Memory allocated: 0x44000000 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pcic0: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [pwr save][CSC parallel isa irq] Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pccard0: on pcic0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: fxp0: port 0xec80-0xecbf mem 0xfe100000-0xfe1fffff,0xfe2ff000-0xfe2fffff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci2 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:90:14:06 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: inphy0: on miibus0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: isa0: on isab0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: uhci0: port 0xff80-0xff9f irq 11 at device 31.2 on pci0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: usb0: on uhci0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2443) at 31.3 irq 10 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: uhci1: port 0xff60-0xff7f irq 9 at device 31.4 on pci0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: usb1: on uhci1 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Apr 2 03:03:21 testbed1-pc /kernel: orm0:
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------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C1DB27.CE186FC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 3 12:56:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.pwhsnet.com (adsl-64-168-103-125.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net [64.168.103.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF5737B400 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 12:56:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus (patrick@zeus.pwhsnet.com [192.168.0.3]) by apollo.pwhsnet.com (8.12.2/8.11.6) with SMTP id g33L1BLs026247; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 13:01:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patrick@pwhsnet.com) Message-ID: <018901c1db52$0ddd1b40$0300a8c0@pwhsnet.com> From: "Patrick O. Fish" To: "Adam" , References: <005301c1db51$b73aea10$126cfea9@a4ibmrrll9362k> Subject: Re: Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 12:56:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0186_01C1DB0E.FD7828A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0186_01C1DB0E.FD7828A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Next time, e-mail freebsd-questions@freebsd.org -- Newbies is a = discussion board. Anyhow, you can check your usage by typing: df -h Hope this helps - Patrick Fish - patrick at pwhsnet dot com PWHS Networks - http://www.pwhsnet.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Adam=20 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:54 PM how can I tell how much space I have left on my hard drive when im = logged in via SSH? =20 =20 Owner/CEO=20 Adam Tuttle EcommIS.net --------------------------------------- "Designing Your Future" ---------------------------------------=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0186_01C1DB0E.FD7828A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Next time, e-mail freebsd-questions@freebsd.o= rg --=20 Newbies is a discussion board.
 
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Hope this helps
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Patrick Fish - patrick at pwhsnet dot com
PWHS Networks - = http://www.pwhsnet.com
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how can I tell how much space I have = left on my=20 hard drive when im logged in via SSH?


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------=_NextPart_000_0186_01C1DB0E.FD7828A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 3 14:17:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA2E37B41A for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 14:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scott@localhost) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g33MITh70640; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 16:18:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 16:18:29 -0600 From: Scott Corey To: Adam Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20020403221829.GA69887@bsdprophet.org> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Corey , Adam , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <005301c1db51$b73aea10$126cfea9@a4ibmrrll9362k> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <005301c1db51$b73aea10$126cfea9@a4ibmrrll9362k> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "df -h" On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 03:54:15PM -0500, Adam wrote: > how can I tell how much space I have left on my hard drive when im logged in via SSH? > > > > > Owner/CEO > Adam Tuttle > EcommIS.net > --------------------------------------- > "Designing Your Future" > --------------------------------------- > > -- Scott B. Corey scott@bsdprophet.org irc.openprojects.net #bsdprophet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 3 16:28:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03-gb.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.15.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679F637B41D for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 16:28:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p100.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.100]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA36346; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 02:28:43 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g33NVWd00469; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 01:31:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 01:31:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: Adam Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <005301c1db51$b73aea10$126cfea9@a4ibmrrll9362k> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org man df On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Adam wrote: > how can I tell how much space I have left on my hard drive when im logged in via SSH? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 3 18:37:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from spade.pacific.net.sg (spade.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7845237B41D; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 18:37:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.pacific.net.sg (smtp2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.169]) by spade.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id g342bm921461; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:37:49 +0800 Received: from pacific.net.sg (ida130.ida.gov.sg [210.24.194.130]) by smtp2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id g342bmZ32391; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:37:48 +0800 Message-ID: <3CABBB9C.E25165E9@pacific.net.sg> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 10:34:05 +0800 From: Vinceido Lipose X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: usb floppy drive and 3com pcmcia network card problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, 1.) What is the device name for my USB floppy drive and how do I mount it ? This is how I mounted my USB floppy drive. Is it the correct way ? # mount /dev/da0 /mnt 2.) This is the dmesg output : uhci0: irq 10 at device 7.2 on pci0 uhci0: Could not map ports device_probe_and _attach: uhci0 attach returned 6 I think the cause of this error is that the BIOS on my laptop doesn't support USB. I'm using a HP Omnibook 4150. Is there any workaround for this ? 3.) I'm using 3Com Megahertz 10/100 LAN Cardbus model 3CCFE575BT. According to the supported hardware list, this model doesn't seem to be supported by FreeBSD 4.5. Are there any other alternatives of getting this pccard to work ? Thanks very much ... -- Regards, Lipos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 3 20:58:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from 100m.mpr200-2.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mpr200-2.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D074C37B417 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 20:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lymond.lvcablemodem.com (cm032.131.234.24.lvcm.com [24.234.131.32]) by 100m.mpr200-2.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ABX71699; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 20:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dlm@localhost) by lymond.lvcablemodem.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) id g344w5c96631 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 20:58:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 20:58:04 -0800 From: Dale Morris To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: icq Message-ID: <20020403205804.A96611@well.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there a program that works for icq available to freebsd? I've tried gnomeicu, licq, kxicq2 and nothing works very well. Kxicq2 crashes when I run it, licq locks up after using it for a while and gnomeicu doesn't send messages. I'm told the new icq format is the problem. Anyone got any solutions or workarounds? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 3 21:14:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D468137B41B for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 21:14:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scott@localhost) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g345EuC72708; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 23:14:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 23:14:54 -0600 From: Scott Corey To: Dale Morris Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: icq Message-ID: <20020404051454.GA72673@bsdprophet.org> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Corey , Dale Morris , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020403205804.A96611@well.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020403205804.A96611@well.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org you might want to try gicq. On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 08:58:04PM -0800, Dale Morris wrote: > Is there a program that works for icq available to freebsd? I've tried > gnomeicu, licq, kxicq2 and nothing works very well. Kxicq2 crashes when > I run it, licq locks up after using it for a while and gnomeicu doesn't > send messages. > > I'm told the new icq format is the problem. Anyone got any solutions or > workarounds? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Scott B. Corey scott@bsdprophet.org irc.openprojects.net #bsdprophet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 3 23: 6:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tracktor.interstrada.net (tracktor.interstrada.net [194.44.104.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B78737B41D for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 23:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from tracktor.interstrada.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tracktor.interstrada.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g34761ns014084 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:06:01 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from melnik@tracktor.interstrada.net) Received: (from melnik@localhost) by tracktor.interstrada.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g34761SW014083 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:06:01 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:06:01 +0300 From: Vladimir Melnik To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: /etc/periodic/security Message-ID: <20020404100601.I77395@tracktor.interstrada.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-Home-Page: http://www.raccoon.kiev.ua/ X-Organisation: ISP Interstrada Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello. I have a FreeBSD-4.5-STABLE which has been updated by cvsup to last -STABLE in 01-Apr-2002. After running mergemaster I found a /etc/periodic/security at my filesystem and a few scripts in it. Somewhy mergemaster didn't ask me about updating my /etc/crontab to run periodic security. Why? In what times I may run periodic security? -- V.Melnik P.S. Sorry for bad English, of course. 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--=_D489496B.08690195-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Apr 4 9:53:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.bb.din.or.jp (smtp1.bb.din.or.jp [210.135.65.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC6237B428 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 09:52:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ppa04-0085.din.or.jp [61.122.94.85]) by smtp1.bb.din.or.jp (8.10.2+Sun/3.7W) with SMTP id g34Hqur13316 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 02:52:56 +0900 (JST) From: tarou@searchjapan.zzn.com To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyhKIRskQjktOXAbKEohGyRCISEbKEo1MDAbJEIxXxsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJCskaTliPH0xVyRKPVAycSQkN08lNSUkJUgkLBsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMT8xRDJERz0hKhsoQg==?= Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 23:59:13 +0900 X-Sender: atamaga@pop.bb.din.or.jp Message-Id: <20020404175305750.00000.1.atamaga@default003.smtp.bb.din.or.jp> X-Mailer: Douhou@Mail version 1.0.0.1/1.0.0.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org $B=P2q$$7O%5%$%H$NI{6H$K4X$9$k$*CN$i$;$G$9!#(B $BITMW$NJ}$O%j%9%H$+$i:o=|$7$^$9$N$G!"$3$N$^$^JV?.$7$F$*CN$i$;$/$@$5$$!#(B $B@$$NCf$K#3K|7o0J>e$"$k$H8@$o$l$F$$$k=P2q$$7O%5%$%H!#(B $B#3K|7o$b$"$k$H$$$&$3$H$O!"%*%$%7%$;T>l$@$+$i$3$=;2F~$9$k;v6H.8/$$$r2T$.$?$$$H$$$&J}$K:GE,$G$9!#(B $B$3$NB>!"K\3JE*$K%S%8%M%9$H$7$F=P2q$$7O%5%$%H$r1?1D$7!"<}F~$rF@$?$$$H$$(B $B$&?M$rBP>]$K$7$?%3!<%9$b=<\:Y4uK>!W$H2<5-%a!<%k%"%I(B $B%l%9$^$G$*CN$i$;$/$@$5$$!#$=$N:]!";aL>!J56L>$G$b2D!K$H=;=j!J2?8)$^$G!K!&(B $B%a!<%k%"%I%l%9$r$*CN$i$;$/$@$5(B $B$$!#(B $B!Z@83h8~>e0Q0w2q![!!(Btamura@suzuki.sh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Apr 4 11:32:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from integral.e-boxen.com (s142-179-213-195.ab.hsia.telus.net [142.179.213.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 81D0437B405 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 11:32:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5067 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2002 19:12:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO business-aid.net) (150.0.6.223) by s142-179-213-195.ab.hsia.telus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2002 19:12:25 -0000 Message-ID: <3CACBABF.30C36F10@business-aid.net> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 12:42:39 -0800 From: joe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: edit @INC path Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi list how are u all hope u had a great day! Can some one help me. I am setting up stuff on my test computer. I need to know how to edit the @INC paths thanx joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Apr 4 15:40:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from subdimension.com (subdimension.com [209.150.29.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 874AC37B42B for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:40:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from subdimension.com ([192.168.0.2]) by subdimension.com ; Thu, 04 Apr 2002 18:44:26 -0500 From: "irado" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Cc: Benjamin Krueger Subject: Re: hub.freebsd.org spam policy X-Mailer: WebMAIL to Mail Gateway v3.0h Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 00:41:40 GMT Message-id: <3cacf2c4.3d75.1804289383@subdimension.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If the spam filtering that the lists implement are not to your > liking, perhaps you can volunteer to help maintain better ones? > Filtering is not a perfect science. It isn't even close. > 251A 4B18 considering your 'almost polite' reply, I must thanks to [put name here] that we are very far apart, and that it was not a weapon. ;-) peace. BTW, I have no enough skills to make as suggested by you. Maybe can you?? ;-) greetings, irado furioso com tudo Linux User 179402 there are more crimes under religions than under atheism. _____________________________________________________________________ // free anonymous email || forums \\ subZINE || anonymous browsing subDIMENSION -- http://www.subdimension.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Apr 4 23: 3:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B181137B41A for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 23:03:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO saha) (knoxwallet@194.226.17.116 with login) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2002 07:02:10 -0000 Message-ID: <001101c1dc70$3d2b99c0$0219a8c0@rti.su> From: "knoxwallet" To: Subject: how to configure mail(1) program? Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:05:13 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i want to be able to send/recieve mail via smtp.mail.yahoo.com/pop.mail.yahoo.com on the text terminal, but i don't how to do it. i read some man pages and get mixed up. excuse my stupid question :) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 5 3: 2:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtpn.mopera.ne.jp (smtpn.mopera.ne.jp [211.14.70.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1A337B41C; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 03:02:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from play-online ([211.14.95.126]) by smtpn.mopera.ne.jp (mopera 2.0 Messaging System) with SMTP id GU3DBN00.6T5; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 20:02:11 +0900 Reply-To: #9977@315.co.jp <#9977@315.co.jp> From: #9977@315.co.jp <#9977@315.co.jp> Subject: !ЌLЌђ!щ‘щ’A—Ќђж‚И‚µ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 15:29:57 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org щ‘‘SЌ‘ѓlѓbѓg‚МЏo‰п‚ўЊn Џ—ђ«‚НЉ®‘S–і—їЃI’jђ«Ѓ•ѓЊѓY‚М•ы‚НђV‹K“o^ЋћЃљ100pt-1000‰~•ЄѓvѓЊѓ[ѓ“ѓgщ© ‘ьЌЎ‘еђl‹C’†щ§ http://ing.mu ѓGѓbѓ`‰ж‘њ‚аЊ©‚к‚йѓ€ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 5 3:49:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from subdimension.com (subdimension.com [209.150.29.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2498B37B434 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 03:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from subdimension.com ([192.168.0.2]) by subdimension.com ; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 06:53:42 -0500 From: "irado" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hub.freebsd.org spam policy X-Mailer: WebMAIL to Mail Gateway v3.0h Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 12:50:57 GMT Message-id: <3cad9db1.6a13.1804289383@subdimension.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > Well, that's your opinion, and certainly one that will gain you little > sympathy with the postmaster. One of the goals of the public lists is > to allow legitimate users to post messages easily, without being > inundated by messages they don't want or having to subscribe and > unsubscribe every time. If you disagree with that, that's your > prerogative, but to call it "out of touch with reality" is not going > to make friends. oh, c'mon, what a mess.. mr. Phillip was not asking for a lot of irate considerations. He was claiming for the fact (is a fatc, may all of you agree or not): legitimate users, REGISTERED users, is being discarded. And spam CONTINUES to hit my mailbox. The spam-policy isnot under discussion, but its effects. As a proof of matter, today I got 3 chinese (who knows??) spam, with the adequate bottom message (To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org). Means: I cannot post a legitimate e-mail to the list, but some people can. What is the culprit?? the spam policy actually in force at your side asks the reverse address of the sender-MTA. If it doesnot resolve, the e-mail is discarded. Well, I have my own MTA, but my e-mail domain (subdimension.com) doesnot have a smtp relay. But I have a legitimate right to send e-mail (not spam) to the list. BTW, I was thinking that spamers have not enough rights to post.. facts are showing that it is not the actuality. The point is: mr. Phillip was not asking for flames. Maybe a polite explanation can do more than irate words. Maybe the solution is in the middleland. Maybe somebody have a suggestion, but is not interested to jump to a war arena.. and the question is: why in the hell I, a registered and enlisted user cannot send mail from my own MTA 'cause it doesnot resolve its reverse, while the happy spammer (which resolves) can clutter my box with unsolicited information/offers?? think that a single solution is: if this_guy@this_domain.com is registered here, will pass, if not, so.. the responsability to avoid spam under my own MTA is mine. And you cannot use my box, even if under my own name (even my corporate box, I can send logs for the hundred of tries). Think that I am not more clever than you, I just do my job the right way. just try to count from 1 to 100 *before* press your 'reply' button ;-), as I am not asking for irate words. and flames > /dev/null greetings, irado furioso com tudo Linux User 179402 there are more crimes under religions than under atheism. _____________________________________________________________________ // free anonymous email || forums \\ subZINE || anonymous browsing subDIMENSION -- http://www.subdimension.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 5 6:43: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.spiersfamily.com (mail.spiersfamily.com [63.228.192.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2FB37B41A for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 06:42:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from laspiershome (laspiers-home.spiersfamily.com [172.31.99.6]) by maggie.spiersfamily.com (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with SMTP id g31LmwN26805 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:48:58 -0700 Message-ID: <003801c1d9bd$a58110f0$06631fac@laspiershome> From: "Lane Spiers" To: Subject: SMC Wireless question Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 13:41:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C1D982.F8E99CC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C1D982.F8E99CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been a UNIX (Solaris and Linux) user for quite a few years (Solaris = 4.1.X is still my favorite UNIX ...) I just loaded the 4.5 release of = FreeBSD on my laptop. Everything seems to work great (is it just my = imagination, or is FreeBSD faster than current Linux distributions?) As = the system boots, it properly identifies my wireless NIC (SMC 2632W) and = appears to load the appropriate drivers - the interface is identified as = wi0. When I attempt to manually ifconfig it, it comes up and links with = the access point. But, if I try to ping anything else on the network, I = get "wi0: watchdog timeout" errors and "host is down" error messages. The only thing I've been able to find in the archives mentions getting = the latest Linux firmware from SMC - I loaded this and rebooted, but it = hasn't seemed to make any difference. Any help would be appreciated. If this is the wrong forum for this = question, a gentle pointer in the right direction would also be = welcomed. Lane ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C1D982.F8E99CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've been a UNIX (Solaris and Linux) = user for quite=20 a few years (Solaris 4.1.X is still my favorite UNIX ...)  I just = loaded=20 the 4.5 release of FreeBSD on my laptop.  Everything seems to work = great=20 (is it just my imagination, or is FreeBSD faster than current Linux=20 distributions?)  As the system boots, it properly identifies my = wireless=20 NIC (SMC 2632W) and appears to load the appropriate drivers - the = interface is=20 identified as wi0.  When I attempt to manually ifconfig it, it = comes up and=20 links with the access point.  But, if I try to ping anything else = on the=20 network, I get "wi0: watchdog timeout" errors and "host is down" error=20 messages.
 
The only thing I've been able to find = in the=20 archives mentions getting the latest Linux firmware from SMC - I loaded = this and=20 rebooted, but it hasn't seemed to make any difference.
 
Any help would be appreciated.  If = this is the=20 wrong forum for this question, a gentle pointer in the right direction = would=20 also be welcomed.
 
Lane
 
------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C1D982.F8E99CC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 5 6:52:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from subdimension.com (subdimension.com [209.150.29.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C062137B419 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 06:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from subdimension.com ([192.168.0.2]) by subdimension.com ; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 09:56:57 -0500 From: "irado" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailer: WebMAIL to Mail Gateway v3.0h Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 15:54:11 GMT Message-id: <3cadc8a3.10d3.1804289383@subdimension.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org wmoran@mail.the-i-pa.com wrote: > "what would cause the server to bounce > mail" and not only did I not get an answer, while it was already answered, I can resume as follows: a) even being a legitimate and enlisted user, you cannot post to the list if your MTA doesnot reverse resolve. b) by other side, if your box do reverse resolve, you can send any s* you want to the list, even not being enlisted or registered user. it seems to make sense to the vast majority of our friends, and everybody is happy with the spam we receive daily.. flames > /dev/null greetings, irado furioso com tudo Linux User 179402 there are more crimes under religions than under atheism. _____________________________________________________________________ // free anonymous email || forums \\ subZINE || anonymous browsing subDIMENSION -- http://www.subdimension.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 5 7:18: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from subdimension.com (subdimension.com [209.150.29.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 885EF37B77D for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 07:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from subdimension.com ([192.168.0.2]) by subdimension.com ; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 10:17:11 -0500 From: "irado" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hub.freebsd.org spam policy X-Mailer: WebMAIL to Mail Gateway v3.0h Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:14:25 GMT Message-id: <3cadcd61.363d.1804289383@subdimension.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am very sorry, the first reply was without re:.. wmoran@mail.the-i-pa.com wrote: > "what would cause the server to bounce > mail" and not only did I not get an answer, while it was already answered, I can resume as follows: a) even being a legitimate and enlisted user, you cannot post to the list if your MTA doesnot reverse resolve. b) by other side, if your box do reverse resolve, you can send any s* you want to the list, even not being enlisted or registered user. it seems to make sense to the vast majority of our friends, and everybody is happy with the spam we receive daily.. flames > /dev/null greetings, irado furioso com tudo Linux User 179402 there are more crimes under religions than under atheism. _____________________________________________________________________ // free anonymous email || forums \\ subZINE || anonymous browsing subDIMENSION -- http://www.subdimension.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 5 8:53:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F050B37B405 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 08:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Fri, 5 Apr 2002 17:50:42 +0100 Received: from spareroom (unverified [80.195.147.216]) by pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 17:50:41 +0100 Message-ID: <00a901c1dcc2$3c0dfb80$757ba8c0@amdAthlon> From: "P.Evans" To: Subject: Help on creating install discs Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 17:50:45 +0100 Organization: APE-Computers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C1DCCA.69C4E360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Disposition-Notification-To: "P.Evans" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C1DCCA.69C4E360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Tried to follow the instructions, but unfortunately I'm so new to = this I am struggling with fdimage? Please advise/help if you can. I eventually want to host my own site/s Pete ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C1DCCA.69C4E360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Tried to follow the = instructions,=20 but unfortunately I'm so new to this I am struggling with = fdimage?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C1DCCA.69C4E360-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 5 9:25: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21101.mail.yahoo.com (web21101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C10FB37B416 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 09:25:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020405172500.80433.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.26.29] by web21101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 09:25:00 PST Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 09:25:00 -0800 (PST) From: Vinod Subject: multimedia players To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i am new to freebsd and just got X going.can anyone tell me what are the best multimedia players(something like real player) available on the X system and where i can get them.there are some on the ports.don't know which one is the best. tips will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Vinod __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 5 9:38:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C01D37B417; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 09:38:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id g35HcDa81284 ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 19:38:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id TAA56826 ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 19:38:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 19:38:12 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Vinod Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: multimedia players Message-ID: <20020405193812.A56553@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20020405172500.80433.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020405172500.80433.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com>; from geekvinod@yahoo.com on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:25:00AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vinod said on Apr 5, 2002 at 09:25:00: > i am new to freebsd and just got X going.can anyone > tell me what are the best multimedia players(something > like real player) available on the X system and where > i can get them.there are some on the ports.don't know > which one is the best. audio/linux-realplayer is the only one which will handle real video. graphics/mplayer and graphics/xine will handle most mpegs, avis, etc very nicely, and can also handle dvds with some caveats (see their documentation/webpages, and for encrypted dvds in xine, install one of the graphics/xine-{dvdnav,d4d,d5d}-plugin ports.) Nothing will handle quicktime with Sorensen codec (ie, most quicktime files), but some programs can handle quicktime with other codecs. xine is probably the most polished looking, mplayer supports the widest variety of video formats, and it looks to me like it's a tie between those two for speed. Ogle is a dvd/vcd player, better support for menus but not quite as fast as the above two. I find that xine and mplayer between them take care of my needs nicely... Rahul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 5 12:23:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.worldonline.com [212.74.112.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F14A37B404 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 12:23:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [80.225.5.11] (helo=lineone.net) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16taEL-000B1Z-00; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 21:22:41 +0100 Message-ID: <3CAE079A.E06E32CA@lineone.net> Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 21:22:50 +0100 From: Jean-Mark Dupoux X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: newbies@freebsd.org Cc: irado Subject: Re: hub.freebsd.org spam policy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I cant help agreeing that something has gone a little wrong with the filtering - i've definitely had one or two problems myself. A particular thing which surprised me was that I couldnt post from any online mail services any more - If I wanted to sign into my regular email on the web from work for example, then my posts got bounced. I tried with 3 different services, Yahoo and 2 regular dial-up service providers which (like most in the UK) have web-based email facilities as well as POP3 email, and all my messages got rejected consistantly. Now I cant say this for sure, but my guess would have been that webmail makes a poor platform to attempt to spam from in comparison to a "normal" email account as you usually only have access to basic composition and addressing tools. Most webmail sites also now have virus scanning built-in, so isnt this one case at least where the filtering could use some refinement ? blocking out every web-based email service which the system seems to do means people can only post from their home boxes Jean-Mark Dupoux jmdupoux@lineone.net On 5 Apr 2002, at 0:41, irado wrote: > > If the spam filtering that the lists implement are not to > your > > liking, perhaps you can volunteer to help maintain better > ones? > > Filtering is not a perfect science. It isn't even close. > > 251A 4B18 > > considering your 'almost polite' reply, I must thanks to > [put name here] that we are very far apart, and that it was > not a weapon. ;-) > > peace. > > BTW, I have no enough skills to make as suggested by you. > Maybe can you?? ;-) > > > greetings, > irado furioso com tudo > Linux User 179402 > > there are more crimes under religions than under atheism. > _____________________________________________________________________ > // free anonymous email || forums \\ subZINE || anonymous browsing > subDIMENSION -- http://www.subdimension.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Apr 5 19:10:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AAF37B417 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g363A2H59409 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200204060310.g363A2H59409@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 7:20:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.takas.lt (mail-src.takas.lt [212.59.31.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AD237B405 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 07:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from praba ([212.59.28.62]) by mail.takas.lt with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Sat, 6 Apr 2002 17:20:15 +0200 From: "Francisco Borggia" To: Subject: which? Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 17:16:59 -0800 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2002 15:20:15.0474 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D9F7520:01C1DD7E] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org MS Windows crashes once a day, KDE crashes (with a beautifull picture of fire) twice a day. Which of them should I choose? F.B. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 7:22: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B972F37B400 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 07:22:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (localhost.bsdprophet.org [127.0.0.1]) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g36FN3wp038360; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 09:23:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from scott@Amelia.bsdprophet.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g36FN3t1038359; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 09:23:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 09:23:03 -0600 From: Scott Corey To: Francisco Borggia Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which? Message-ID: <20020406152303.GB38109@bsdprophet.org> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Corey , Francisco Borggia , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org neither! On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 05:16:59PM -0800, Francisco Borggia wrote: > MS Windows crashes once a day, KDE crashes (with > a beautifull picture of fire) > twice a day. Which of them should I choose? > > F.B. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Scott B. Corey scott@bsdprophet.org irc.openprojects.net #bsdprophet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 8:51:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from c014.snv.cp.net (c014-h018.c014.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F87E37B404 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 08:51:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (cpmta 2618 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2002 08:51:30 -0800 Received: from 12.33.76.83 (HELO bigbeat) by smtp.cswebmail.com (209.228.35.93) with SMTP; 6 Apr 2002 08:51:30 -0800 X-Sent: 6 Apr 2002 16:51:30 GMT Message-ID: <000801c1dd8b$4d8af6f0$ca0110ac@bigbeat> Reply-To: "Kliment Andreev" From: "Kliment Andreev" To: References: Subject: Re: which? Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 11:51:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > MS Windows crashes once a day, KDE crashes (with > a beautifull picture of fire) > twice a day. Which of them should I choose? Choose a typewriter! :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 9:19:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from chat.ru (di55.tara-di-1.online.kz [212.19.154.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B02937B400; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 09:18:31 -0800 (PST) From: Max Subject: Delovoe predlogenie!!! Organization: Procorporate Inc. Reply-To: deonis2000@taraz.kz X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 00:17:02 +0700 Message-Id: <20020406171831.7B02937B400@hub.freebsd.org> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Господа! 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 9:39:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from CYPHER.turbonet.com (cypher.turbonet.com [206.228.112.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928C337B419 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 09:39:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [63.161.20.112] by CYPHER.turbonet.com (NTMail 7.01.0028/NT0409.00.990455ed) with ESMTP id qtvjrbaa for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 09:39:04 -0800 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 09:38:58 -0800 (PST) From: nickw@uidaho.edu, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR Subject: Re: which? To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <000801c1dd8b$4d8af6f0$ca0110ac@bigbeat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Message-Id: <17390497601165@CYPHER.turbonet.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 6 Apr, Kliment Andreev wrote: -| > MS Windows crashes once a day, KDE crashes (with -| > a beautifull picture of fire) -| > twice a day. Which of them should I choose? -| -| Choose a typewriter! :) -| -| Or you could just use a different window manager. Try windowmaker, it's stable. _Nick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 11:14: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web20004.mail.yahoo.com (web20004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.225.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A445737B417 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 11:14:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020406191402.97819.qmail@web20004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.138.209.204] by web20004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 06 Apr 2002 14:14:02 EST Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 14:14:02 -0500 (EST) From: Michael de Roche Subject: Re: which? To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <17390497601165@CYPHER.turbonet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Or Blackbox .... --- nickw@uidaho.edu, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR wrote: > On 6 Apr, Kliment Andreev wrote: > -| > MS Windows crashes once a day, KDE > crashes (with > -| > a beautifull picture of fire) > -| > twice a day. Which of them should I choose? > -| > -| Choose a typewriter! :) > -| > -| > Or you could just use a different window manager. Try > windowmaker, > it's stable. > > _Nick > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ Music, Movies, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 11:39:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C7037B417 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 11:39:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (localhost.bsdprophet.org [127.0.0.1]) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g36JeKwp044918; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 13:40:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from scott@Amelia.bsdprophet.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g36JeK89044917; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 13:40:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 13:40:20 -0600 From: Scott Corey To: Michael de Roche Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which? Message-ID: <20020406194020.GA44626@bsdprophet.org> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Corey , Michael de Roche , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <17390497601165@CYPHER.turbonet.com> <20020406191402.97819.qmail@web20004.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020406191402.97819.qmail@web20004.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Or Ice .... On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 02:14:02PM -0500, Michael de Roche wrote: > Or Blackbox .... > > --- nickw@uidaho.edu, > UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR wrote: > > On 6 Apr, Kliment Andreev wrote: > > -| > MS Windows crashes once a day, KDE > > crashes (with > > -| > a beautifull picture of fire) > > -| > twice a day. Which of them should I choose? > > -| > > -| Choose a typewriter! :) > > -| > > -| > > Or you could just use a different window manager. Try > > windowmaker, > > it's stable. > > > > _Nick > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the > message > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Music, Movies, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Scott B. Corey scott@bsdprophet.org irc.openprojects.net #bsdprophet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 12:27:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from xmxpita.excite.com (nat1.excitenetwork.com [63.236.75.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB2E37B41B for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 12:27:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by xmxpita.excite.com (Postfix, from userid 110) id 36C06B6B6; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 15:27:04 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Difference between .cshrc and .profiles Reply-To: dillama1@excite.com From: "dillama" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: dillama1@excite.com X-Mailer: PHP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Message-Id: <20020406202704.36C06B6B6@xmxpita.excite.com> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 15:27:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone explain the difference between .cshrc and .profile? They are so similar. ------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 13: 5:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phucking.kicks-ass.org (c-4b3a70d5.022-45-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [213.112.58.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8333A37B416 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 13:05:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from phucking.kicks-ass.org (localhost.kicks-ass.org [127.0.0.1]) by phucking.kicks-ass.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F8DD9AD; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 23:05:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 213.112.58.75 (SquirrelMail authenticated user z3l3zt) by phucking.kicks-ass.org with HTTP; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 23:05:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <2151.213.112.58.75.1018127116.squirrel@phucking.kicks-ass.org> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 23:05:16 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: which? From: "Jesper Wallin" To: In-Reply-To: <20020406194020.GA44626@bsdprophet.org> References: <20020406194020.GA44626@bsdprophet.org> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cc: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well.. I just want to say this.. The difference between M$ Windows and KDE is that KDE is free and open source, M$ Windows is not open source and make you damn poor.. KDE crashes.. you restart KDE.. M$ crashes.. you restart your whole computer.. When a M$ Windows box crashes, 99% of the rest of you computer will crash too and you need a reboot.. KDE (Linux) will may only crash one users session but all other users logged in and all other programs which is runned will still work fine and stable.. If I was you, I would choose KDE (or any of the suggested Windows Managers).. I prefer Fluxbox and use it everyday without any crash at all.. Linux is both free (may will cost you some cash to your ISP and for the CD-R record you burn it on..) and it's open source.. A system is always able to hack and will never stop crashing.. why pay for a system which work as good/bad as all others? Jesper aka Z3l3zT > Or Ice .... > > On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 02:14:02PM -0500, Michael de Roche wrote: >> Or Blackbox .... >> >> --- nickw@uidaho.edu, >> UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR wrote: >> > On 6 Apr, Kliment Andreev wrote: >> > -| > MS Windows crashes once a day, KDE >> > crashes (with >> > -| > a beautifull picture of fire) >> > -| > twice a day. Which of them should I choose? >> > -| >> > -| Choose a typewriter! :) >> > -| >> > -| >> > Or you could just use a different window manager. Try >> > windowmaker, >> > it's stable. >> > >> > _Nick >> > >> > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the >> message >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> Music, Movies, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > -- > Scott B. Corey > scott@bsdprophet.org > irc.openprojects.net #bsdprophet > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 13:10:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phucking.kicks-ass.org (c-4b3a70d5.022-45-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [213.112.58.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C64B37B404 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 13:10:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from phucking.kicks-ass.org (localhost.kicks-ass.org [127.0.0.1]) by phucking.kicks-ass.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B64159AD; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 23:10:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 213.112.58.75 (SquirrelMail authenticated user z3l3zt) by phucking.kicks-ass.org with HTTP; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 23:10:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <2182.213.112.58.75.1018127429.squirrel@phucking.kicks-ass.org> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 23:10:29 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Difference between .cshrc and .profiles From: "Jesper Wallin" To: In-Reply-To: <20020406202704.36C06B6B6@xmxpita.excite.com> References: <20020406202704.36C06B6B6@xmxpita.excite.com> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cc: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello.. Almost in all cases are all files starting with a "." and ending in "rc" runned when you start the specified program.. So .cshrc is runned when you start csh shell, .bashrc is runned when you start the bash shell.. The .profile is often a copy of the /etc/profile and the /etc/profile is runned each time you login which mean, even if you're running bash, sh, csh, etc.. /etc/profile will be runned.. Because you're not running the system as root all the time, you're not allowed to change the /etc/profile.. Therefor you will get a copy if it named .profile which make it able to edit it so it fit you.. :) Jesper aka Z3l3zT > > Can anyone explain the difference between .cshrc and .profile? They are > so similar. > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 13:38:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from integral.e-boxen.com (s142-179-213-195.ab.hsia.telus.net [142.179.213.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E616B37B416 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 13:38:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3956 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2002 21:18:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO business-aid.net) (150.0.6.223) by s142-179-213-195.ab.hsia.telus.net with SMTP; 6 Apr 2002 21:18:01 -0000 Message-ID: <3CAF7B41.E029AEFA@business-aid.net> Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 14:48:33 -0800 From: joe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: grep Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org can some one help me use grep to file a sertian word with in 50 folders i understand it is grep but what are the tags thanx joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 14: 7:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF8137B404 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 14:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (localhost.bsdprophet.org [127.0.0.1]) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g36M8awp046843; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 16:08:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from scott@Amelia.bsdprophet.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g36M8abL046842; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 16:08:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 16:08:35 -0600 From: Scott Corey To: dillama Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Difference between .cshrc and .profiles Message-ID: <20020406220835.GA46758@bsdprophet.org> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Corey , dillama , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020406202704.36C06B6B6@xmxpita.excite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020406202704.36C06B6B6@xmxpita.excite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As a normal login shell, bash 'sources' system-wide file /etc/profile, whrer the system environment and path can be set for bash users. However, it is not run when the system interprets the shell as non-interactive. The most important case would be single user mode, where csh is executed on the machine. The /etc/profile is not run and the path is inherited from the csh daemon. bash receives command line arguments -login and -i that can be used to set as a login shell or interactive shell respectively. The user can overwrite values set in /etc/profile by creating a file ~/.bash_profile, ~/bash_login or ~/.profile. Note that just the first one of these is executed thus differing of the logic of csh initialization. ~/bash_login is not executed specially for login shells and if .bash_profile exists, it is not executed at all! If bash is used with name sh instead of the name bash, it emulates original Bourne shell initialization: it sources just files /etc/profile and ~/.profile and just for login shells. As a login shell tcsh executes the following files in this order: /etc/csh.cshrc /etc/csh.login ~/.tschrc ~/.cshrc (if .tschrc is not found) ~/.history ~/.login ~/.cshdirs tsch can be compiled to execute login scripts before cshrc scripts. Beware! Non-interactive shells execute just the "cshrc scripts" login scripts can be used to set the path just once in the login. Hope this helps. On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 03:27:04PM -0500, dillama wrote: > > Can anyone explain the difference between .cshrc and .profile? They are so similar. > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Scott B. Corey scott@bsdprophet.org irc.openprojects.net #bsdprophet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 14:21:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4273337B417 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 14:21:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (localhost.bsdprophet.org [127.0.0.1]) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g36MMewp047054; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 16:22:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from scott@Amelia.bsdprophet.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g36MMdrm047053; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 16:22:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 16:22:39 -0600 From: Scott Corey To: Jesper Wallin Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which? Message-ID: <20020406222239.GB46758@bsdprophet.org> References: <20020406194020.GA44626@bsdprophet.org> <2151.213.112.58.75.1018127116.squirrel@phucking.kicks-ass.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2151.213.112.58.75.1018127116.squirrel@phucking.kicks-ass.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wrong dude! The difference is that Microsoft Windows is an Operating System and KDE is a Window Manager for X Window. This is like comparing Apples and Oranges. It can't be done. On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 11:05:16PM +0200, Jesper Wallin wrote: > Well.. I just want to say this.. > > The difference between M$ Windows and KDE is that KDE is free and open > source, M$ Windows is not open source and make you damn poor.. > > KDE crashes.. you restart KDE.. > M$ crashes.. you restart your whole computer.. > > When a M$ Windows box crashes, 99% of the rest of you computer will crash > too and you need a reboot.. KDE (Linux) will may only crash one users > session but all other users logged in and all other programs which is runned > will still work fine and stable.. > > If I was you, I would choose KDE (or any of the suggested Windows > Managers).. I prefer Fluxbox and use it everyday without any crash at all.. > Linux is both free (may will cost you some cash to your ISP and for the CD-R > record you burn it on..) and it's open source.. A system is always able to > hack and will never stop crashing.. why pay for a system which work as > good/bad as all others? > > > Jesper aka Z3l3zT > > > Or Ice .... > > > > On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 02:14:02PM -0500, Michael de Roche wrote: > >> Or Blackbox .... > >> > >> --- nickw@uidaho.edu, > >> UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR wrote: > >> > On 6 Apr, Kliment Andreev wrote: > >> > -| > MS Windows crashes once a day, KDE > >> > crashes (with > >> > -| > a beautifull picture of fire) > >> > -| > twice a day. Which of them should I choose? > >> > -| > >> > -| Choose a typewriter! :) > >> > -| > >> > -| > >> > Or you could just use a different window manager. Try > >> > windowmaker, > >> > it's stable. > >> > > >> > _Nick > >> > > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the > >> message > >> > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________________ > >> Music, Movies, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Scott B. Corey > > scott@bsdprophet.org > > irc.openprojects.net #bsdprophet > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Scott B. Corey scott@bsdprophet.org irc.openprojects.net #bsdprophet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 14:30:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.pwhsnet.com (adsl-64-164-39-143.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net [64.164.39.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE2E37B416 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 14:30:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus (patrick@zeus.pwhsnet.com [192.168.0.3]) by apollo.pwhsnet.com (8.12.2/8.11.6) with SMTP id g36MZ0Ls084039; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 14:35:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patrick@pwhsnet.com) Message-ID: <003701c1ddba$92698910$0300a8c0@zeus> From: "Patrick O. Fish" To: "joe" , References: <3CAF7B41.E029AEFA@business-aid.net> Subject: Re: grep Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 14:29:42 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org try freebsd-questions ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe" To: Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: grep > can some one help me use grep to file a sertian word with in 50 folders > > i understand it is grep but what are the tags > > thanx joe > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 15:15:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phucking.kicks-ass.org (c-4b3a70d5.022-45-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [213.112.58.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B3237B416 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 15:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from phucking.kicks-ass.org (localhost.kicks-ass.org [127.0.0.1]) by phucking.kicks-ass.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58822AF8; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 01:15:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 213.112.58.75 (SquirrelMail authenticated user z3l3zt) by phucking.kicks-ass.org with HTTP; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 01:15:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <2659.213.112.58.75.1018134939.squirrel@phucking.kicks-ass.org> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 01:15:39 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: which? From: "Jesper Wallin" To: In-Reply-To: <20020406222239.GB46758@bsdprophet.org> References: <20020406222239.GB46758@bsdprophet.org> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cc: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello again.. Well.. If explorer krashes, it will take about 3 seconds until you get a blue screen and need to reboot.. Sure I know that Windows NT/XP/2k is much more stable, BUT, in unix systems you have the difference between root and users which is just a big joke in Windows NT/XP/2k.. Lets say you run a unix system as a user and you get a virus of some kind, the only thing you have access to is your home dir and maybe the /tmp... This will not effect any other user or process.. If you run a Windows NT/XP/2k system as a users you may have the same security BUT, if you want root/admin access you simply use "su" on unix systems which doesn't excist in Windows system at all.. There you have to exit all programs and login as another admin user.. This will "force" you (at least all prople I know who's running Windows) to give them admin access AND make them easier targets for viruses.. In a unix system you can crash nearly how many programs/processes as possible but still you system works fine.. On Windows system nearly all will effect the system and you sooner or later will be forced to reboot.. I prefer running a Unix system because it's much more faster, stable and if you know computers well and are interested in programming you may even can fix the error which crash your computer because it's Open Source! Alot of Unix systems are created and developed because it's fun.. Microsoft Windows are created for one thing, to make money which really sux! Sure both systems works fine and are stable, but thy the hell shall you pay for something you can get for free? Because you trust it more if you pay? Well, on Unix systems you can see EVERYTHING which is going on, on your system.. On M$ Windows systems you only see some of them and the whole system structure make it un-logical and i still doesn't understand why the blue screen excists.. The blue screen is/was made for debugging.. why implentit in the final release? I mean, Amanda 43 won't understand anything at all of what's displayed on that screen.. She will only be pissed and call her technical support at her work.. :) I trust Unix system so much so that day I need a Paese Maker (or how it's spelled) I will force my doctor to run FreeBSD system on it.. It will make me live the 30 next years.. Sure I live 30 years instead of 30 minutes.. //Jesper aka Z3l3zT > Wrong dude! > > The difference is that Microsoft Windows is an Operating System and KDE > is a Window Manager for X Window. > > This is like comparing Apples and Oranges. It can't be done. > > On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 11:05:16PM +0200, Jesper Wallin wrote: >> Well.. I just want to say this.. >> >> The difference between M$ Windows and KDE is that KDE is free and open >> source, M$ Windows is not open source and make you damn poor.. >> >> KDE crashes.. you restart KDE.. >> M$ crashes.. you restart your whole computer.. >> >> When a M$ Windows box crashes, 99% of the rest of you computer will >> crash too and you need a reboot.. KDE (Linux) will may only crash one >> users session but all other users logged in and all other programs >> which is runned will still work fine and stable.. >> >> If I was you, I would choose KDE (or any of the suggested Windows >> Managers).. I prefer Fluxbox and use it everyday without any crash at >> all.. Linux is both free (may will cost you some cash to your ISP and >> for the CD-R record you burn it on..) and it's open source.. A system >> is always able to hack and will never stop crashing.. why pay for a >> system which work as good/bad as all others? >> >> >> Jesper aka Z3l3zT >> >> > Or Ice .... >> > >> > On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 02:14:02PM -0500, Michael de Roche wrote: >> >> Or Blackbox .... >> >> >> >> --- nickw@uidaho.edu, >> >> UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR wrote: >> >> > On 6 Apr, Kliment Andreev wrote: >> >> > -| > MS Windows crashes once a day, KDE >> >> > crashes (with >> >> > -| > a beautifull picture of fire) >> >> > -| > twice a day. Which of them should I choose? >> >> > -| >> >> > -| Choose a typewriter! :) >> >> > -| >> >> > -| >> >> > Or you could just use a different window manager. Try >> >> > windowmaker, >> >> > it's stable. >> >> > >> >> > _Nick >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the >> >> message >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Music, Movies, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >> > >> > -- >> > Scott B. Corey >> > scott@bsdprophet.org >> > irc.openprojects.net #bsdprophet >> > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > -- > Scott B. 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