From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 1 1:10:15 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADB737B401 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 01:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CEC43EC5 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 01:10:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h019ACNS040448 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 01:10:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h019ACau040447; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 01:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6286737B401 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 01:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from h24-82-193-81.wp.shawcable.net (h24-82-193-81.wp.shawcable.net [24.82.193.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC60943EB2 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 01:00:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from modulus@h24-82-193-81.wp.shawcable.net) Received: from h24-82-193-81.wp.shawcable.net (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h24-82-193-81.wp.shawcable.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0191mFa098866 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 03:01:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from modulus@h24-82-193-81.wp.shawcable.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by h24-82-193-81.wp.shawcable.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBV5Vl8p095933; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 23:31:47 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200212310531.gBV5Vl8p095933@h24-82-193-81.wp.shawcable.net> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 23:31:47 -0600 (CST) From: "Christian S.J. Peron" Reply-To: "Christian S.J. Peron" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/46665: [patch] Incorrect TCP error specification blackhole(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 46665 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] Incorrect TCP error specification blackhole(4) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jan 01 01:10:01 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Christian S.J. Peron >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p2 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD h24-82-193-81 4.7-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p2 #1: Fri Dec 6 00:00:31 CST 2002 modulus@h24-82-193-81:/usr/src/sys/compile/opcode i386 >Description: When blackhole(4) explains the default behavior of what happends when SYN segments are recieved on ports with no sockets listening, it says the system will return an RST packet, which is correct. However it reports that the connecting system will see the failure as a "Connection reset by peer" error which would imply the remote machine's connect(2) would have exited with failure and would have ECONNRESET set in errno. This is not accurate. blackhole(4) should report that the connecting machine will recieve a "Connection refused" error or ECONNREFUSED which is more accurate. >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: --- /usr/src/share/man/man4/blackhole.4.wrong Mon Dec 30 23:13:15 2002 +++ /usr/src/share/man/man4/blackhole.4 Mon Dec 30 23:13:52 2002 @@ -34,7 +34,7 @@ Normal behaviour, when a TCP SYN segment is received on a port where there is no socket accepting connections, is for the system to return a RST segment, and drop the connection. The connecting system will -see this as a "Connection reset by peer". By setting the TCP blackhole +see this as a "Connection refused". By setting the TCP blackhole MIB to a numeric value of one, the incoming SYN segment is merely dropped, and no RST is sent, making the system appear as a blackhole. By setting the MIB value to two, any segment arriving >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 1 6: 0: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC2837B401 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 06:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCC943ED8 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 06:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h01E07NS032367 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 06:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h01E07Q0032366; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 06:00:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 06:00:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301011400.h01E07Q0032366@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Morten Rodal Subject: Re: docs/39164: Misprint in units(1).lib (aganist) Reply-To: Morten Rodal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/39164; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Morten Rodal To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/39164: Misprint in units(1).lib (aganist) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 14:55:53 +0100 --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This PR can be closed. It was fixed in revision 1.13 and MFC'ed later in 1.5.2.6 about 5 months ago. --=20 Morten Rodal --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+EvNobWe1Cy11WVsRAiJTAKC16yoizUAoE9/SW4yqQSG9IYBniwCfeQr9 ebTH5HbGYrrcLQ+FN+WMP3g= =LFtm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 1 9:40: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4803E37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 09:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EC543EE1 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 09:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h01He2NS063038 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 09:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h01He2eI063037; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 09:40:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 09:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301011740.h01He2eI063037@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Igor Sobrado Subject: Re: docs/43861: non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page Reply-To: Igor Sobrado Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/43861; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Igor Sobrado To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Subject: Re: docs/43861: non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 17:59:07 +0100 In that case, the right synopsis for this command should be: wicontrol [[-i] iface] ... Not only "-i" is optional, it is the "iface" field also (that defaults to wi0 if it is not specified.); an error is specifying "-i" without an interface. Cheers, Igor. -- Igor Sobrado, UK34436 - sobrado@acm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 1 10:23:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782CD37B401; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FB243EA9; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:23:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h01INsNS079665; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:23:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h01INhj4079605; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:23:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:23:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200301011823.h01INhj4079605@freefall.freebsd.org> To: maneo@bsdpro.com, ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/46665: [patch] Incorrect TCP error specification blackhole(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [patch] Incorrect TCP error specification blackhole(4) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ceri State-Changed-When: Wed Jan 1 10:23:10 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Duplicate of docs/46654 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46665 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 1 10:53:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6836D37B406; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:53:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust47.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1E843ED1; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:53:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18TnzK-00010V-00; Wed, 01 Jan 2003 18:53:10 +0000 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:53:10 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Tom Rhodes Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Does this patch make sense ? Message-ID: <20030101185310.GD3273@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Tom Rhodes , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20021231191301.GA51333@submonkey.net> <20021231151116.75d195d0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021231151116.75d195d0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. X-message-flag-attribution: suresh, sdm. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 03:11:16PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 19:13:01 +0000 > Ceri Davies wrote: > > > > > This looks like the links point to more appropriate places to me, but > > then I have been in the pub for lunch. > > Without a test application (ie: build and check) it looks correct. Cool. Thanks. Ceri -- For a 250 pound woman, the beard, and the courageous! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 1 13:30: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A2637B401 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 13:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925B443EC2 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 13:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h01LU1NS066280 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 13:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h01LU1WT066279; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 13:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9250237B401 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 13:21:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from etaq.com (dsl-64-129-24-177.telocity.com [64.129.24.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBEB43E4A for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 13:21:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wayne@etaq.com) Received: by etaq.com (Postfix, from userid 1002) id A345E43C; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 15:30:55 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <20030101213055.A345E43C@etaq.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 15:30:55 -0600 (CST) From: Wayne Reply-To: wayne@etaq.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/46674: Wrong description of 'list' option for ipfw in the handbook. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 46674 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Wrong description of 'list' option for ipfw in the handbook. >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jan 01 13:30:01 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wayne >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD etaq.com 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: Tue Dec 17 22:47:37 CST 2002 wayne@etaq.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL4 i386 >Description: The handbook description of ipfw is wrong and useless for how to ask ipfw to list the rules. The handbook says: 8.4.4.2. Listing the IPFW rules The syntax for this form of the command is: ipfw [-a] [-t] [-N] l >How-To-Repeat: Point your browser to: file:///usr/share/doc/handbook/firewalls.html >Fix: The proper line is ipfw [-a] [-t] [-N] list add the word 'list' to your command line. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 1 19: 1: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF16C37B40B; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:01:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4602643E4A; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:01:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h02314NS063296; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:01:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h02312pX063288; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:01:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:01:02 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200301020301.h02312pX063288@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nivit@libero.it, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/39164: Misprint in units(1).lib (aganist) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Misprint in units(1).lib (aganist) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Wed Jan 1 19:00:15 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: This can be closed, it was fixed in revision 1.13 which was MFC'ed. Thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=39164 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 1 23:25:18 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0491237B405 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DCE43E4A for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:25:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mij@soupnazi.org) Received: from host-66-81-218-35.rev.o1.com ([66.81.218.35] helo=soupnazi.org) by grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18Tzj7-0000NZ-00; Wed, 01 Jan 2003 23:25:13 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:25:24 -0800 Subject: Re: FreeBSD'zine domain now a porn site Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: "Gary W. Swearingen" , docs@freebsd.org To: Dan Langille From: Jim Mock In-Reply-To: <20021228132114.A25930-100000@m20.unixathome.org> Message-Id: <5BCF5454-1E23-11D7-AE80-000393460DB2@soupnazi.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 10:23 AM, Dan Langille wrote: > On 28 Dec 2002, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: >> Dan Langille writes: >>> A user just emailed me to say that freebsdzine.org is now a porn >>> site. I'm in the process of removing links to that domain and >>> thought you folks might like to do similar. >> >> I'm removing a link to http://www.freebsdzine.org/200103/ which I've >> noted has an article (or two) on Rich Morin's very interesting "Meta" >> project (which should interest -doc people). AFAIK, the project >> hasn't advanced much, so the article is still accurate. I couldn't >> find "Meta" with your http://www.freebsddiary.org/ search tool. I >> did a quick look for the article with google and at Meta's >> http://cantaforda.com/Meta/ and in the freebsddiary index of old >> articles with no luck. >> >> Do you (or could you) have some freebsdzine archives somewhere? Or >> if you have the Meta article(s) I could find out if Rich Morin wants >> to put them under http://cantaforda.com/Meta/. > > I emailed Jim Mock before -docs regarding this. I expect he has them > in a repo somewhere. I'm willing to host them at > freebsddiary.org/freebsdzine/ if needed. IMHO, not having them online > is a loss. I thought I'd replied to this, but I guess I haven't. I have a copy of all the articles that were published. I'm currently working on integrating them into my site. Once I'm done, I'll change the links in the www tree to point to the proper place. Hopefully I'll have it done within the next few weeks (it's going to take a while, there are a lot of articles). - jim -- jim mock jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 1:50:21 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CACE37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:50:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from crf-consulting.co.uk (pc-80-194-99-19-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [80.194.99.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3403F43E4A for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:50:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@crf-consulting.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (clan.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.20]) by crf-consulting.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h029o1aw013744; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:50:01 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h029oAxO001901; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:50:10 GMT (envelope-from nik@clan.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h029o9GS001900; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:50:09 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:50:09 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Warren Block Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FDP Future And XSL Message-ID: <20030102095009.GA33071@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 09:36:19PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > Based on some of my web searching, it looks like XSL will be a much > bigger player in the future than DSSSL. Certainly it seems to be much > more active right now. Are the current DSSSL style sheets going to be > around a long time, or is XSL in the works? (Is it worth my time to get > the new XSL-FO book from OReilly if I want to stay compatible with FDP?) Last time I looked (which, granted, was over 6 months ago), the main problem was the lack of decent FOP -> PS / PDF processors. The main contender was PassiveTeX (which is in the ports tree, print/passivetex), but it didn't do that good a job. It was also 2 to 3 times slower than JadeTeX. Things may have changed since then, but I haven't had the chance to go back and look at it in detail. However, some of the early work in this area has been committed. =20 doc/share/xsl/ contains some simple skeleton XSL driver files, and=20 doc.docbook.mk supports a STYLESHEET_TYPE variable, so you can do make FORMATS=3Dhtml STYLESHEET_TYPE=3Dxsl to use the XSL stylesheets (the default is 'STYLESHEET_TYPE=3Ddsssl'). So there's the beginnings of some support for this in the build infrastructure -- you'll need to install ports/textproc/libxslt as well for this to work. This isn't documented in detail yet, mainly because I don't have too clear an idea of exactly what it's all going to look like when it's finished. What this needs is someone with some spare time to work on finishing the proof of concept stylesheets so that HTML, PS, and PDF generation work in a reasonably painless fashion when using XSL -- at least as painless as using the DSSSL sheets[1]. This would be a great project for you (or anyone else reading this) to tackle. As I recall, the stumbling block I hit last time I was doing this was in terms of parameterising the stylesheets. There's only one FreeBSD DSSSL stylesheet (if you ignore the little customisations in the per-language freebsd.dsl files), and this stylesheet uses SGML marked sections to select which bits of the stylesheet are visible (HTML no images, HTML with images, generic HTML, generic print, generic). You can't do this with XSL stylesheets. So I have (uncommitted) files that implement default.xsl, freebsd.xsl, freebsd-fo.xsl, freebsd-html.xsl, and freebsd-html-chunk.xsl. That's probably still not enough. I've put these up at http://people.freebsd.org/~nik/xsl-test/ if anyone wants to use them as the starting point for something better. N [1] Depending on your definition of 'painless', of course. I well=20 remember the frustration of trying to climb the DSSSL learning curve. --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+FAtQk6gHZCw343URAhxxAJ0d01+oXI8BunWXSmI1uGNmMbaZ3gCfVGWU 1rcJo6e8/RUg2Ch1GvJBkvU= =6dB4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 1:54:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDE037B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:54:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from crf-consulting.co.uk (pc-80-194-99-19-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [80.194.99.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5AA43EA9 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:54:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@crf-consulting.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (clan.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.20]) by crf-consulting.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h029sSaw013805; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:54:28 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h029saxO001912; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:54:36 GMT (envelope-from nik@clan.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h029saaR001911; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:54:36 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:54:36 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Prasad V Nuli Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Can I get FreeBSD Developers Manual in PDF Format ? Message-ID: <20030102095436.GB33071@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 01:14:30AM -0500, Prasad V Nuli wrote: > Hi Can I get the Freebsd Developers Manual and other FreeBSD documentation > in PDF format ? It makes it easy to read if they are available in the pdf > format. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/support.html#DOC-FORMA= TS N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+FAxbk6gHZCw343URAh7kAKCJMd/p3/umPHihcVG2BAwa1qgwMgCdH71M CUKUYlZ3PIh1dPCJnSSUmdg= =g3Pb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 3:16:37 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD3937B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 03:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC86943EB2; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 03:16:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h02BGZNS033556; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 03:16:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h02BGZPi033540; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 03:16:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 03:16:35 -0800 (PST) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200301021116.h02BGZPi033540@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/46674: Wrong description of 'list' option for ipfw in the handbook. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Wrong description of 'list' option for ipfw in the handbook. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ceri Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Jan 2 03:15:43 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: "ipfw l" does work, but it's probably not as clear as "ipfw list", so I'll take care of changing this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46674 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 4:54:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1890537B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 04:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84E343ED1; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 04:54:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h02CsNNS065095; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 04:54:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h02CsNGK065091; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 04:54:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 04:54:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200301021254.h02CsNGK065091@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sobrado@acm.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/46637: hier(7) man page needs to be fixed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: hier(7) man page needs to be fixed State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: ceri State-Changed-When: Thu Jan 2 04:53:38 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: The changes sound appropriate, especially the /var/heimdal one. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ceri Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Jan 2 04:53:38 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take care of this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46637 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 8: 9:36 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672FA37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:09:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to (pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to [213.130.163.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B609343EC5 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:09:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shamrock@cypherpunks.to) Received: from VAIO650 (unknown [208.201.229.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8AA3662D; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 17:09:25 +0100 (CET) From: "Lucky Green" To: Cc: Subject: IPFW: suicidal defaults Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:09:19 -0800 Message-ID: <000101c2b279$51d33ba0$6601a8c0@VAIO650> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, A few days ago, I tried to enable IPFW on my FreeBSD 4.6.2 (fresh cvssup from the security branch) machine. Following the instruction in the Handbook at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls.html I recompiled the kernel with the required options and rebooted the machine. What I would have expected to happen is for there to be a new kernel that later on can be configured with firewall rules. But that is not what happened. Instead, IPFW defaults to block all IP traffic unless told otherwise: I was locked out of my machine! Which was on the other side of the planet from where I was physically located. Now I am all for shipping systems that are secure out-of-the-box, but defaulting an install to locking the admin out of his machine is not a nice thing to do. While I would argue that this should never be done, at the very least such a major trap should be mentioned in the Handbook so that administrators that follow the Handbook's step-by-step instructions know that they have to do so from the console, since in doing so they will lock themselves out remotely. Therefore, could you please be so kind and prevent others from shooting themselves into the foot as I did by 1) at least mention this danger *prominently* in the FreeBSD Handbook. 2) ideally set IPFW defaults so that they don't screw up people's lives. Big thanks in advance, --Lucky Green, an otherwise very happy FreeBSD user To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 8:37: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5C037B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from wasley.bl.mmtr.or.jp (wasley.bl.mmtr.or.jp [210.228.160.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA62B43EB2 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:37:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rushani@bl.mmtr.or.jp) Received: (qmail 15852 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 01:36:53 +0900 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (210.165.143.40) by mx.bl.mmtr.or.jp with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 01:36:53 +0900 Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 01:37:12 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20030103.013712.74568050.rushani@bl.mmtr.or.jp> To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: relnotes, jumbo(9) man-ref lacked in zero_copy(9) paragraph? From: Hideyuki KURASHINA X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.bl.mmtr.or.jp/~rushani/public_key.txt X-PGP-Fingerprint: A052 6F98 6146 6FE3 91E2 DA6B F2FA 2088 439A DC57 X-URL: http://www.bl.mmtr.or.jp/~rushani/ X-Mailer: Mew version 3.1.50 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Following patch correct for zero_copy(9) paragraph in relnotes? Index: new.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.468 diff -u -r1.468 new.sgml --- new.sgml 30 Dec 2002 21:18:04 -0000 1.468 +++ new.sgml 2 Jan 2003 16:31:24 -0000 @@ -973,7 +973,7 @@ The send-side code should work with almost any network adapter, while the receive-side code requires a network adapter with an MTU of at least one memory page size (for - example, jumbo frames on Gigabit Ethernet). For more + example, &man.jumbo.9; frames on Gigabit Ethernet). For more information, see &man.zero.copy.9;. -- rushani To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 10:31: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D1437B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [211.6.83.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4078343EB2 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:31:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Received: from localhost (p1036-air01kdtoyoshi.nagano.ocn.ne.jp [218.43.93.36]) by smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345A5FFB; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:30:59 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 03:29:21 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20030103.032921.39148074.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: rushani@bl.mmtr.or.jp Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: relnotes, jumbo(9) man-ref lacked in zero_copy(9) paragraph? From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20030103.013712.74568050.rushani@bl.mmtr.or.jp> References: <20030103.013712.74568050.rushani@bl.mmtr.or.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Hideyuki KURASHINA wrote in <20030103.013712.74568050.rushani@bl.mmtr.or.jp>: rushani> Following patch correct for zero_copy(9) paragraph in relnotes? I do not think so. jumbo(9) describes the jumbo allocator implemented in FreeBSD 5.0, and it does not directly mean jumbo frames themselves on Gigabit Ethernet. The two have much relevance to each other, but using such kinds of reference will confuse the readers, I think. -- | Hiroki SATO | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 10:40:41 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F142837B405 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from skywalker.rogness.net (skywalker.rogness.net [64.251.173.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC32843EC2 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:40:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from skywalker.rogness.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skywalker.rogness.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h02IfN4X004259; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:41:23 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by skywalker.rogness.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h02IfLbk004256; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:41:22 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: skywalker.rogness.net: nick owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:41:11 -0700 (MST) From: Nick Rogness To: Lucky Green Cc: l.rizzo@iet.unipi.it, Subject: Re: IPFW: suicidal defaults In-Reply-To: <000101c2b279$51d33ba0$6601a8c0@VAIO650> Message-ID: <20030102112914.P4054-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Lucky Green wrote: > Folks, > A few days ago, I tried to enable IPFW on my FreeBSD 4.6.2 (fresh cvssup > from the security branch) machine. Following the instruction in the > Handbook at > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls.html > I recompiled the kernel with the required options and rebooted the > machine. > > What I would have expected to happen is for there to be a new kernel > that later on can be configured with firewall rules. But that is not > what happened. Instead, IPFW defaults to block all IP traffic unless > told otherwise: I was locked out of my machine! Which was on the other > side of the planet from where I was physically located. Do some research and testing before installing something at such a remote location. Basic SysAdmin-101 concepts. > > Now I am all for shipping systems that are secure out-of-the-box, but > defaulting an install to locking the admin out of his machine is not a > nice thing to do. While I would argue that this should never be done, at > the very least such a major trap should be mentioned in the Handbook so > that administrators that follow the Handbook's step-by-step instructions > know that they have to do so from the console, since in doing so they > will lock themselves out remotely. > Therefore, could you please be so kind and prevent others from shooting > themselves into the foot as I did by > > 1) at least mention this danger *prominently* in the FreeBSD Handbook. > Agreed. There should be a mention. However, someone has to write it. Instead of bitchin about it, go ahead and submit a change (bug report). > 2) ideally set IPFW defaults so that they don't screw up people's lives. > This is probably won't happen nor should it. A lot of firewalls come with default to deny. It is not as unusual as you would think. In fact, it makes sense to block by default. Nick Rogness -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBPhSH0bvBDHaKKeQcEQJq4gCff11v7424NNafwIzKw7C/n5itNVAAn0vX 7AtuEb+7b8VWBUaDeUWP43b+ =2HIW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 11:11:49 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0631137B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:11:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from skywalker.rogness.net (skywalker.rogness.net [64.251.173.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5234943EC5 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:11:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from skywalker.rogness.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skywalker.rogness.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h02JCh4X004330; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:12:43 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by skywalker.rogness.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h02JCgx7004327; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:12:42 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: skywalker.rogness.net: nick owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:12:38 -0700 (MST) From: Nick Rogness To: Lucky Green Cc: l.rizzo@iet.unipi.it, Subject: RE: IPFW: suicidal defaults In-Reply-To: <003101c2b28f$f2b0b690$6601a8c0@VAIO650> Message-ID: <20030102120754.P4054-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Lucky Green wrote: > > > > This is probably won't happen nor should it. > > > > A lot of firewalls come with default to deny. It is not as > > unusual as you would think. In fact, it makes sense to block by > > default. > > I don't have a problem with the firewall shipping with a default to > deny. What I am having a problem with is the firewall becoming active by > simply recompiling the kernel with firewall options included and without > the user first having to enable the firewall in one of the rc.* config > files. Either ship the firewall with a default to allow (sub-optimal) or > require the user to enable the firewall by creating an entry in rc.*, > but please, please require some positive act from the administrator > other than compiling in kernel options before that beast goes live. Ummm, unless things have changed, just recompiling the kernel with 'options IPFIREWALL' won't enable your firewall. You need the corresponding option in /etc/rc.conf : firewall_enable="YES" If you recompiled your kernel with 'options IPFIREWALL' and didn't enable the above switch in /etc/rc.conf then your problem isn't the firewall blocking you. Chances are your kernel won't load properly on the machine the way you compiled it. Nick Rogness To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 11:20:56 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8002737B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust47.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6935C43EC5 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:20:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18UAta-000HM7-00; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 19:20:46 +0000 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:20:45 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Nick Rogness Cc: Lucky Green , l.rizzo@iet.unipi.it, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW: suicidal defaults Message-ID: <20030102192045.GB1145@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Nick Rogness , Lucky Green , l.rizzo@iet.unipi.it, doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <003101c2b28f$f2b0b690$6601a8c0@VAIO650> <20030102120754.P4054-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030102120754.P4054-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. X-message-flag-attribution: suresh, sdm. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 12:12:38PM -0700, Nick Rogness wrote: > > Ummm, unless things have changed, just recompiling the kernel with > 'options IPFIREWALL' won't enable your firewall. You need the > corresponding option in /etc/rc.conf : > > firewall_enable="YES" Nope - that tells it whether to load the ruleset (and ipfw.ko) or not. If you've compiled ipfw as a module, then not having firewall_enable set to YES is enough to not load the firewall, but if you've compiled it into your kernel and don't load any rules, then you just get the default rule. Ceri -- By the forge of the clan! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 11:24:57 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CA537B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:24:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to (pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to [213.130.163.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD6F43ED8 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:24:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shamrock@cypherpunks.to) Received: from VAIO650 (unknown [208.201.229.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4EF36481; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:24:53 +0100 (CET) From: "Lucky Green" To: "'Nick Rogness'" Cc: , Subject: RE: IPFW: suicidal defaults Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:24:48 -0800 Message-ID: <003901c2b294$9f341610$6601a8c0@VAIO650> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <20030102120754.P4054-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nick wrote: > Ummm, unless things have changed, just recompiling the > kernel with > 'options IPFIREWALL' won't enable your firewall. You need the > corresponding option in /etc/rc.conf : > > firewall_enable="YES" > > If you recompiled your kernel with 'options IPFIREWALL' > and didn't > enable the above switch in /etc/rc.conf then your problem isn't > the firewall blocking you. Chances are your kernel won't load > properly on the machine the way you compiled it. I assure you that I didn't have firewall_enable="YES" set and yet the firewall was turned on once my system came back from reboot. Stock 4.6.2 install, security branch cvsup. I am looking at rc.* this very moment. If I had enabled the firewall in rc.conf, I would richly deserve whatever punishment I got. :) One I finally got a hold of a guy on-site, his trying to use ping on the server make it pretty obvious that that firewall was active. He added an entry to rc.local that starts up the firewall with a more lenient rule set, but I will look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf to figure out how IPFW is supposed to be started up from rc.conf. I swear that the firewall came up without any changes to rc.conf, otherwise I wouldn't have emailed you folks in the first place... --Lucky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 11:32:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DE837B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:32:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail15.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC6643E4A for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:32:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 10823 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2003 19:32:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail15.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 2 Jan 2003 19:32:42 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h02JWYUT060686; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:32:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <003901c2b294$9f341610$6601a8c0@VAIO650> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 14:32:40 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Lucky Green Subject: RE: IPFW: suicidal defaults Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, l.rizzo@iet.unipi.it, Nick Rogness Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 02-Jan-2003 Lucky Green wrote: > Nick wrote: >> Ummm, unless things have changed, just recompiling the >> kernel with >> 'options IPFIREWALL' won't enable your firewall. You need the >> corresponding option in /etc/rc.conf : >> >> firewall_enable="YES" >> >> If you recompiled your kernel with 'options IPFIREWALL' >> and didn't >> enable the above switch in /etc/rc.conf then your problem isn't >> the firewall blocking you. Chances are your kernel won't load >> properly on the machine the way you compiled it. > > I assure you that I didn't have firewall_enable="YES" set and yet the > firewall was turned on once my system came back from reboot. Stock 4.6.2 > install, security branch cvsup. I am looking at rc.* this very moment. > > If I had enabled the firewall in rc.conf, I would richly deserve > whatever punishment I got. :) > > One I finally got a hold of a guy on-site, his trying to use ping on the > server make it pretty obvious that that firewall was active. He added an > entry to rc.local that starts up the firewall with a more lenient rule > set, but I will look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf to figure out how IPFW is > supposed to be started up from rc.conf. > > I swear that the firewall came up without any changes to rc.conf, > otherwise I wouldn't have emailed you folks in the first place... Use 'firewall_enable="YES"' and 'firewall_type="open"' in /etc/rc.conf until you come up with a ruleset. Either that or compile your kernel with the option to default to allow when you compile the firewall in. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 11:33:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1033C37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:33:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from glow.radioactivedata.com (glow.radioactivedata.org [199.232.41.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DCD943EA9 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:33:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mbertsch@radioactivedata.org) Received: (qmail 23625 invoked by uid 7770); 2 Jan 2003 19:33:34 -0000 Received: from localhost.radioactivedata.org (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.radioactivedata.org with SMTP; 2 Jan 2003 19:33:34 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:33:34 -0500 (EST) From: Mike DeGraw-Bertsch X-X-Sender: To: Lucky Green Cc: "doc@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: IPFW: suicidal defaults In-Reply-To: <003901c2b294$9f341610$6601a8c0@VAIO650> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy, While it's probably not the first place people look, if you look at the firewall section in the LINT configuration, you'll see: # WARNING: IPFIREWALL defaults to a policy of "deny ip from any to any" # and if you do not add other rules during startup to allow access, # YOU WILL LOCK YOURSELF OUT. It is suggested that you set firewall_type=open # in /etc/rc.conf when first enabling this feature, then refining the # firewall rules in /etc/rc.firewall after you've tested that the new kernel # feature works properly. # # IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT causes the default rule (at boot) to # allow everything. Use with care, if a cracker can crash your # firewall machine, they can get to your protected machines. However, # if you are using it as an as-needed filter for specific problems as # they arise, then this may be for you. Changing the default to 'allow' # means that you won't get stuck if the kernel and /sbin/ipfw binary get # out of sync. So, without IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT, yep, you'll lock yourself out right quick, even without an rc.conf change. Not that I've done this myself last week or anything. ;) -Mike On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Lucky Green wrote: > Nick wrote: > > Ummm, unless things have changed, just recompiling the > > kernel with > > 'options IPFIREWALL' won't enable your firewall. You need the > > corresponding option in /etc/rc.conf : > > > > firewall_enable="YES" > > > > If you recompiled your kernel with 'options IPFIREWALL' > > and didn't > > enable the above switch in /etc/rc.conf then your problem isn't > > the firewall blocking you. Chances are your kernel won't load > > properly on the machine the way you compiled it. > > I assure you that I didn't have firewall_enable="YES" set and yet the > firewall was turned on once my system came back from reboot. Stock 4.6.2 > install, security branch cvsup. I am looking at rc.* this very moment. > > If I had enabled the firewall in rc.conf, I would richly deserve > whatever punishment I got. :) > > One I finally got a hold of a guy on-site, his trying to use ping on the > server make it pretty obvious that that firewall was active. He added an > entry to rc.local that starts up the firewall with a more lenient rule > set, but I will look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf to figure out how IPFW is > supposed to be started up from rc.conf. > > I swear that the firewall came up without any changes to rc.conf, > otherwise I wouldn't have emailed you folks in the first place... > > --Lucky > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 12: 0:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5306D37B411 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E89243EE5 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:00:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h02K0MNS079906 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:00:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h02K0MG5079905; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BFA37B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:57:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from draupnir.rhnet.is (draupnir.rhnet.is [130.208.16.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D2043EC5; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:57:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oli@draupnir.rhnet.is) Received: from draupnir.rhnet.is (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by draupnir.rhnet.is (8.12.6/8.12.6/rhnet) with ESMTP id h02Jvmhd002723; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:57:48 GMT (envelope-from oli@draupnir.rhnet.is) Received: (from root@localhost) by draupnir.rhnet.is (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h02JvmZO002721; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:57:48 GMT (envelope-from oli) Message-Id: <200301021957.h02JvmZO002721@draupnir.rhnet.is> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:57:48 GMT From: Olafur Osvaldsson Reply-To: Olafur Osvaldsson To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/46702: Changes to statistics path Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 46702 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Changes to statistics path >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jan 02 12:00:21 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Olafur Osvaldsson >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE i386 >Organization: RHnet >Environment: System: FreeBSD draupnir.rhnet.is 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #17: Thu Jan 2 16:57:17 GMT 2003 oli@draupnir.rhnet.is:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IBM_330 i386 >Description: Was just moving the dual FE connection to a single Gigabit, merged the graphs at the same time. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/article.sgml.orig Thu Jan 2 19:52:03 2003 +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/article.sgml Thu Jan 2 19:52:26 2003 @@ -1030,7 +1030,7 @@ ftp.is.FreeBSD.org - hostmaster@is.FreeBSD.org - - + (Bandwidth) (FTP processes) (HTTP processes) >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 12:16:28 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D9337B4F8; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:16:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417E243EC5; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:16:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h02KGNNS089525; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:16:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h02KGM5Z089521; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:16:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:16:22 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200301022016.h02KGM5Z089521@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dmagda+fbugs@ee.ryerson.ca, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43750: incorrect "SEE ALSO" references in wi(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: incorrect "SEE ALSO" references in wi(4) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Thu Jan 2 12:15:35 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: These xrefs no longer appear in the SEE ALSO section. Thanks for pointing it out! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43750 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 12:31: 0 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244CB37B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:30:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F9443EC2; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:30:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id B31E4AE27F; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:30:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:30:58 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Sebastien Gioria Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: getosreldate(3) manpage. Re: Did you approve this commit ? Message-ID: <20030102203058.GK26140@elvis.mu.org> References: <20030102212351.1859b0ff.gioria@FreeBSD.ORG> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030102212351.1859b0ff.gioria@FreeBSD.ORG> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Sebastien Gioria [030102 12:23] wrote: > Hi, > > It seem that you who have commit getosreldate function. There is no manual page, > I'v submit PR/46365. > > Attached is the planned manual page commit, If you aggred, I'll commit it I like the man page, however I'm somewhat concerened with a url being the reference, perhaps the actual files should be somewhere in /usr/share, or perhpas inlined in the makefile. I would commit it for now, however I hope someone from -doc can explain the protocol we should actually be using. Perhaps a manpage for __FreeBSD_version is in order. I'm not sure. :) -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 12:44:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E5637B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:44:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C3443EC5; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:44:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h02KibNS096783; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:44:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h02Kibqv096779; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:44:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:44:37 -0800 (PST) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200301022044.h02Kibqv096779@freefall.freebsd.org> To: oli@isnic.is, ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/46702: Changes to statistics path Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Changes to statistics path State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ceri State-Changed-When: Thu Jan 2 12:44:00 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Changes committed - thanks very much for both your continued support and the heads-up. Ceri http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46702 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 12:50: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23A737B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D5743E4A for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:50:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h02Ko5NS097258 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:50:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h02Ko5Hp097257; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:50:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:50:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200301022050.h02Ko5Hp097257@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Sebastien Gioria Subject: Re: docs/46365: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) Reply-To: Sebastien Gioria Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/46365; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Sebastien Gioria To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/46365: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:42:12 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Multipart_Thu__2_Jan_2003_21:42:12_+0100_0819d000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:16:53 +0200 the keyboard of Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2002-12-19 00:43, Sebastien Gioria wrote: > > > .Sh DESCRIPTION > > .Fn getosreldate > > > .Sh HISTORY > > The > > .Fn getosreldate > > appeared in > > .Fx 2.0. > > You don't need to include the function name after .Fn here. > These two are probably better if written as: > > The > .Fn > function... > > > at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/freebsd-versions.html > > .Sh EXAMPLES > > An example can be found in /usr/share/examples/FreeBSD_version > > An example can be found in > .Pa /usr/share/examples/FreeBSD_version . > > Paths look nicer if marker up with .Pa in output formats that can use > many fonts. I'm not sure if the URL can be marked up with .Pa too, > but Ruslan will probably know better. After your remarks, the man page look like this This seem to have some probleme doing just .Fn function... . 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From: Hideyuki KURASHINA In-Reply-To: <20030103.032921.39148074.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> References: <20030103.013712.74568050.rushani@bl.mmtr.or.jp> <20030103.032921.39148074.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.bl.mmtr.or.jp/~rushani/public_key.txt X-PGP-Fingerprint: A052 6F98 6146 6FE3 91E2 DA6B F2FA 2088 439A DC57 X-URL: http://www.bl.mmtr.or.jp/~rushani/ X-Mailer: Mew version 3.1.50 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>> On Fri, 03 Jan 2003 03:29:21 +0900 (JST), Hiroki Sato said: > Hi, > > Hideyuki KURASHINA wrote > in <20030103.013712.74568050.rushani@bl.mmtr.or.jp>: > > rushani> Following patch correct for zero_copy(9) paragraph in relnotes? > > I do not think so. jumbo(9) describes the jumbo allocator > implemented in FreeBSD 5.0, and it does not directly mean > jumbo frames themselves on Gigabit Ethernet. Thanks for clarification. > The two have much relevance to each other, but using such > kinds of reference will confuse the readers, I think. I agree your opinion. Thanks again. -- rushani To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 13:13:52 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6B537B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:13:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from totem.fix.no (totem.fix.no [80.91.32.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1C943E4A for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:13:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anders@totem.fix.no) Received: by totem.fix.no (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B8A9B20244; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:14:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:14:50 +0100 From: Anders Nordby To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Errors in PDF docs on ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc Message-ID: <20030102211450.GA52161@totem.fix.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://anders.fix.no/pgp/ X-PGP-Key-FingerPrint: 1E0F C53C D8DF 6A8F EAAD 19C5 D12A BC9F 0083 5956 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, # wget -q ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en/books/corp-net-guide/book.pdf.bz2 # bunzip2 book.pdf.bz2 # acroread book.pdf "Acrobat Reader - There was an error opening this document. The file is damaged and could not be repaired." I'm using Acroread 5.06. Cheers, -- Anders. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 13:24:35 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8249237B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:24:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from tvbsn.com.tw (n055.n203-95-201.eranet.net [203.95.201.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D21E43EA9 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:24:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from 9@tvbs.com.tw) Received: from tvbs.com.tw ([203.95.201.41]) by tvbsn.com.tw (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id h02LX2908948 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 05:33:03 +0800 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 05:33:03 +0800 Message-Id: <200301022133.h02LX2908948@tvbsn.com.tw> Received: from tvbs-fw ([203.95.201.33]) by tvbs.com.tw (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) with SMTP id 48256CA2.0072F30B; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 04:55:33 +0800 Received: from b227-pc22.above.net.tw ([202.133.232.26]) by tvbs-fw.tvbs.com.tw; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 04:41:31 +0000 (CST) To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: 9@tvbs.com.tw Subject: Å]§Ù¤G³¡¦±¡GÂù«°©_¿Ñ .DVD X-Mailer: GMail2 by Design2Graphics Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ±z¦n ,²{¦b¹w©w2003¦~2¤ëµo°â..DVD Å]§Ù¤G³¡¦±¡GÂù«°©_¿Ñ «¢§Qªi¯S¡G®ø¥¢ªº±K«Ç DVD9¤@¤ù¤@«ßÀu´f450¤¸°â¥X ¥H¤U¯d¤U¸ê®Æµ¥«ÝÀu´f³qª¾ ¡ihttp://hocomdvd.xxking.com/mail.htm¡j ¡´·s¼WÀu´fDVD²M­Ü¼v¤ù ½Ð¶i¤J ¡i http://www.geocities.com/hocomdvd2003/dvd-shopping-auction.htm¡j To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 13:52:15 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1634D37B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:52:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AEC43E4A; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:52:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h02LqAuc072119; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:52:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h02LqBPU003359; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:52:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h02LqBbZ003358; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:52:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:52:11 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Anders Nordby Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Errors in PDF docs on ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc Message-ID: <20030102215211.GG566@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <20030102211450.GA52161@totem.fix.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030102211450.GA52161@totem.fix.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 10:14:50PM +0100, Anders Nordby wrote: > Hi, > > # wget -q > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en/books/corp-net-guide/book.pdf.bz2 > # bunzip2 book.pdf.bz2 > # acroread book.pdf > > "Acrobat Reader - There was an error opening this document. The file is > damaged and could not be repaired." > > I'm using Acroread 5.06. > I tried with Acroread 4, gv and xpdf: they all failed to open the book. For example: % xpdf book.pdf Error (0): PDF file is damaged - attempting to reconstruct xref table... Error: Couldn't find trailer dictionary Error: Couldn't read xref table The file is corrupted/damaged. Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 20:50: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BCF37B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CD243EC2 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h034o1NS044911 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h034o1aW044910; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F22137B401 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:43:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC99943ED1 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:43:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from horikawa@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (12-252-35-167.client.attbi.com[12.252.35.167]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with SMTP id <2003010304430900100j33p2e>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 04:43:09 +0000 Message-Id: <20030102.214308.74754748.horikawa@attbi.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 21:43:08 -0700 (MST) From: Kazuo Horikawa Reply-To: Kazuo Horikawa To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/46709: tables in terminfo.5 are broken Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 46709 >Category: docs >Synopsis: tables in terminfo.5 are broken >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jan 02 20:50:00 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kazuo Horikawa >Release: 5.0-RC2 >Organization: personal user >Environment: terminfo.5 contained in 5.0 current and 5.0-RC2 >Description: Formatted terminfo.5 page shows corrupt tables like: Variable Cap- TCap Description Booleans name Code auto_left_margin bw bw T} auto_right_margin am am T} src/contrib/ncurses/man/MKterminfo.sh produced the corrupt tables. (Is this due to difference between GNU sed and FreeBSD sed?) terminfo.5 is a part of src/contrib/ncurses. >How-To-Repeat: man 5 terminfo >Fix: src/contrib/ncurses/MKterminfo.sh with following change produces correct tables in resulting roff file. --- MKterminfo.sh.bak Thu Jan 2 20:22:55 2003 +++ MKterminfo.sh Thu Jan 2 21:21:06 2003 @@ -64,13 +64,13 @@ unsorted=unsorted$$ trap "rm -f $sorted $temp $unsorted; exit 99" 1 2 5 15 -sed -n <$caps "\ +sed -E -n <$caps "\ /%%-STOP-HERE-%%/q /^#%/s///p /^#/d -s/[ ]\+/ /g +s/[ ]+/ /g s/$/T}/ -s/ [A-Z0-9_()\-]\+ [0-9\-]\+ [Y\-][B\-][C\-][G\-][EK\-]\** / T{/ +s/ [A-Z0-9_()\-]+ [0-9\-]+ [Y\-][B\-][C\-][G\-][EK\-]\** / T{/ s/ bool / /p s/ num / /p s/ str / /p >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 2 21: 8:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE71B37B401; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE2243EA9; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:08:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from moble.pittgoth.com ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h0358bNN023807; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:08:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:09:01 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FDP Future And XSL Message-Id: <20030103000901.509e0f58.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030102095009.GA33071@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20030102095009.GA33071@clan.nothing-going-on.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:50:09 +0000 Nik Clayton wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 09:36:19PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > > Based on some of my web searching, it looks like XSL will be a much > > bigger player in the future than DSSSL. Certainly it seems to be > > much more active right now. Are the current DSSSL style sheets > > going to be around a long time, or is XSL in the works? (Is it > > worth my time to get the new XSL-FO book from OReilly if I want to > > stay compatible with FDP?) > > Last time I looked (which, granted, was over 6 months ago), the main > problem was the lack of decent FOP -> PS / PDF processors. The main > contender was PassiveTeX (which is in the ports tree, > print/passivetex), but it didn't do that good a job. It was also 2 to > 3 times slower than JadeTeX. > > Things may have changed since then, but I haven't had the chance to go > back and look at it in detail. > > However, some of the early work in this area has been committed. > doc/share/xsl/ contains some simple skeleton XSL driver files, and > doc.docbook.mk supports a STYLESHEET_TYPE variable, so you can do > > make FORMATS=html STYLESHEET_TYPE=xsl This did not work for me. However, once I added the files you specified it worked. Therefor I committed them to the repo so that anyone who wants to play with this will have a `stepping stone' to work with. I played with it a little bit. -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 3 3:42:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC2A37B401; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:42:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1317343EC5; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:42:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h03Bgeuc077913; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:42:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h03Bgbl9000597; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:42:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h03BgbRc000596; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:42:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:42:37 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Tom Rhodes Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FDP Future And XSL Message-ID: <20030103114237.GA547@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <20030102095009.GA33071@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030103000901.509e0f58.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030103000901.509e0f58.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 12:09:01AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > This did not work for me. However, once I added the files you > specified it worked. Therefor I committed them to the repo so > that anyone who wants to play with this will have a `stepping stone' > to work with. I played with it a little bit. > Maybe I could work a bit on this. Well however, I have a "major" thing to commit before: I did the "images separation" from the en_US directory. Once again the problems came from the ps/pdf part :) I will mail the diffs for reviewing and I will commit them after 5.0 release. 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Please report abuse at: abuse@indatatek.com [BK5NK] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 3 7:43:49 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAC337B401; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 07:43:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DEC43EC5; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 07:43:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from moble.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h03FhjNN027749; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:43:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:44:05 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Marc Fonvieille Cc: nik@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FDP Future And XSL Message-Id: <20030103104405.49843dbe.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030103114237.GA547@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <20030102095009.GA33071@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030103000901.509e0f58.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030103114237.GA547@nosferatu.blackend.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:42:37 +0100 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 12:09:01AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > > This did not work for me. However, once I added the files you > > specified it worked. Therefor I committed them to the repo so > > that anyone who wants to play with this will have a `stepping stone' > > to work with. I played with it a little bit. > > > > Maybe I could work a bit on this. > > Well however, I have a "major" thing to commit before: I did > the "images separation" from the en_US directory. Once again > the problems came from the ps/pdf part :) > I will mail the diffs for reviewing and I will commit them after 5.0 > release. > > Marc > Marc, the donation of time toward this project is very helpful, I committed some files yesterday and we can at least build the FORMATS=html STYLESHEET_TYPE=xsl but things like html split and that still do not work. I would also like to bring xml/xsl support into the www/ tree. The only problem that I see with that is that many people don't really know xml/xsl. They are more familiar with html. We would definatly need to update the primer. It was a great docbook learning source for me, and hopefully it can be a great xml/xsl learning tool for future contributors. -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 3 11:53:49 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752CA37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:53:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF11843EC2 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:53:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (mwlucas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h03JrkYc045273 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:53:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h03JrkSN045272 for doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:53:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:53:46 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: request for review Message-ID: <20030103145346.A45246@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Since I agree there may be a conflict of interest in putting my own book up in publish.html, I thought I'd post the diff here. I'll commit early next week unless there is some comment or complaint. Also, is it safe to just "cvs commit" gif files? Never even thought of doing that before, but the cover images got up there somehow... ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons Absolute BSD: http://www.AbsoluteBSD.com/ --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="publish.sgml.diff" Index: publish.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/publish.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.52 diff -u -r1.52 publish.sgml --- publish.sgml 29 Jun 2002 09:07:07 -0000 1.52 +++ publish.sgml 3 Jan 2003 19:50:18 -0000 @@ -206,6 +206,16 @@ November 2001, Wind River Systems. ISBN 1-57176-303-1 + + + book cover + Absolute BSD. This book discusses management of + FreeBSD-based servers in an enterprise, high-performance + environment. + + June 2002, No Starch + Press. ISBN 1-886411-74-3 + --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 3 11:59:40 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0850E37B405 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:59:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust47.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5527743EC2 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:59:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18UXyj-0002r9-00; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 19:59:37 +0000 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 19:59:36 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: request for review Message-ID: <20030103195936.GA10906@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Michael Lucas , doc@freebsd.org References: <20030103145346.A45246@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030103145346.A45246@blackhelicopters.org> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. X-message-flag-attribution: suresh, sdm. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 02:53:46PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > Since I agree there may be a conflict of interest in putting my own > book up in publish.html, I thought I'd post the diff here. I don't see a problem with conflict of interest at all. But your diff is fine, please go ahead and commit. If you're very uneasy about this, then I'll happily commit it for you. > Also, is it safe to just "cvs commit" gif files? Never even thought > of doing that before, but the cover images got up there somehow... I've never experienced a problem committing binary files to a repository, but to be sure, I believe you "cvs add -kb gifs/abs_bsd_cov.gif" and then "cvs ci" as normal. Ask your mentor for confirmation ;) Ceri -- By the Soul-Forger, your last day has come! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 3 12:11: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD31A37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4198843EE1 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:11:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from moble.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h03KAwNN029440; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:10:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:11:18 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: request for review Message-Id: <20030103151118.040af0e7.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030103145346.A45246@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20030103145346.A45246@blackhelicopters.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.8claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:53:46 -0500 Michael Lucas wrote: > Since I agree there may be a conflict of interest in putting my own > book up in publish.html, I thought I'd post the diff here. > > I'll commit early next week unless there is some comment or complaint. > > Also, is it safe to just "cvs commit" gif files? Never even thought > of doing that before, but the cover images got up there somehow... > > ==ml > > -- > Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org > http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > > Absolute BSD: http://www.AbsoluteBSD.com/ This looks great! And I usually use cvs add -bk . That should work, but ask someone who commits image files (the java and gnome projects come to mind.) -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 3 12:13:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6344D37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:13:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust47.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B0D43EEC for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:13:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18UYCR-0002uu-00; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 20:13:47 +0000 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:13:47 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: request for review Message-ID: <20030103201347.GB10906@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Michael Lucas , doc@freebsd.org References: <20030103145346.A45246@blackhelicopters.org> <20030103195936.GA10906@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030103195936.GA10906@submonkey.net> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. X-message-flag-attribution: suresh, sdm. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 07:59:36PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 02:53:46PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > > Since I agree there may be a conflict of interest in putting my own > > book up in publish.html, I thought I'd post the diff here. > > I don't see a problem with conflict of interest at all. > But your diff is fine, please go ahead and commit. If you're very uneasy > about this, then I'll happily commit it for you. Actually, looking again, I have a couple of comments: + book cover Perhaps the alt attribute should be something more like "Absolute BSD cover image". "book cover" isn't too descriptive. + Absolute BSD. This book discusses management of + FreeBSD-based servers in an enterprise, high-performance + environment. Add another comma after "high-performance". Ceri -- For the dwelling of my ancestors! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 3 12:23:35 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F2737B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:23:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail17.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6F043EA9 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:23:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 29259 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 20:23:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail17.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 3 Jan 2003 20:23:36 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h03KNSUT064732; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:23:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20030103201347.GB10906@submonkey.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 15:23:35 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: request for review Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Michael Lucas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 03-Jan-2003 Ceri Davies wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 07:59:36PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > + Absolute BSD. This book discusses management of > + FreeBSD-based servers in an enterprise, high-performance > + environment. > > Add another comma after "high-performance". Why? One doesn't normally put commas between adjectives and the nouns they describe. I might write "the green, fast car", but I wouldn't write "the green, car" or "the green, fast, car". -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 3 12:28:20 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BE937B401; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:28:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust47.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED0C43E4A; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:28:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18UYQU-00030C-00; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 20:28:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:28:18 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: John Baldwin Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Michael Lucas Subject: Re: request for review Message-ID: <20030103202818.GC10906@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , John Baldwin , doc@freebsd.org, Michael Lucas References: <20030103201347.GB10906@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. X-message-flag-attribution: suresh, sdm. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 03:23:35PM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 03-Jan-2003 Ceri Davies wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 07:59:36PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > > + Absolute BSD. This book discusses management of > > + FreeBSD-based servers in an enterprise, high-performance > > + environment. > > > > Add another comma after "high-performance". > > Why? Because it's Friday evening and I am, once again, dead on my feet. > One doesn't normally put commas between adjectives and the > nouns they describe. I might write "the green, fast car", but > I wouldn't write "the green, car" or "the green, fast, car". Of course. Ceri [That'll do, sigmonster; that'll do] -- A child of five could understand this! Fetch me a child of five. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 3 13:26:43 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D24F37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:26:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E9C43F0F for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:26:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b218.otenet.gr [212.205.244.226]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h03LQN4V001333; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 23:26:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h03LQNh2003101; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 23:26:23 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h03LQHbG003096; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 23:26:17 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 23:26:17 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Nick Rogness Cc: Lucky Green , l.rizzo@iet.unipi.it, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW: suicidal defaults Message-ID: <20030103212617.GC2505@gothmog.gr> References: <000101c2b279$51d33ba0$6601a8c0@VAIO650> <20030102112914.P4054-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030102112914.P4054-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-01-02 11:41, Nick Rogness wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Lucky Green wrote: > > Folks, > > A few days ago, I tried to enable IPFW on my FreeBSD 4.6.2 (fresh cvssup > > from the security branch) machine. Following the instruction in the > > Handbook at > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls.html > > I recompiled the kernel with the required options and rebooted the > > machine. > > > > What I would have expected to happen is for there to be a new kernel > > that later on can be configured with firewall rules. But that is not > > what happened. Instead, IPFW defaults to block all IP traffic unless > > told otherwise: I was locked out of my machine! Which was on the other > > side of the planet from where I was physically located. > > > > Now I am all for shipping systems that are secure out-of-the-box, but > > defaulting an install to locking the admin out of his machine is not a > > nice thing to do. While I would argue that this should never be done, at > > the very least such a major trap should be mentioned in the Handbook so > > that administrators that follow the Handbook's step-by-step instructions > > know that they have to do so from the console, since in doing so they > > will lock themselves out remotely. > > Therefore, could you please be so kind and prevent others from shooting > > themselves into the foot as I did by > > > > 1) at least mention this danger *prominently* in the FreeBSD Handbook. > > Agreed. There should be a mention. However, someone has to write > it. Instead of bitchin about it, go ahead and submit a change > (bug report). Oh but it is documented. The sample configuration that one can find at /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT includes a comment: # WARNING: IPFIREWALL defaults to a policy of "deny ip from any to any" # and if you do not add other rules during startup to allow access, # YOU WILL LOCK YOURSELF OUT. It is suggested that you set firewall_type=open # in /etc/rc.conf when first enabling this feature, then refining the # firewall rules in /etc/rc.firewall after you've tested that the new kernel # feature works properly. Ignoring this is not a fault of the documentation :( - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 3 19: 1:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D3E37B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 19:01:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from skywalker.rogness.net (skywalker.rogness.net [64.251.173.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E795843E4A for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 19:01:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from skywalker.rogness.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skywalker.rogness.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h043244X007080; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:02:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by skywalker.rogness.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h04321cT007077; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:02:02 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: skywalker.rogness.net: nick owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:01:58 -0700 (MST) From: Nick Rogness To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Lucky Green , , Subject: Re: IPFW: suicidal defaults In-Reply-To: <20030103212617.GC2505@gothmog.gr> Message-ID: <20030103195642.G6257-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2003-01-02 11:41, Nick Rogness wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Lucky Green wrote: > > > > > > 1) at least mention this danger *prominently* in the FreeBSD Handbook. > > > > Agreed. There should be a mention. However, someone has to write > > it. Instead of bitchin about it, go ahead and submit a change > > (bug report). > > Oh but it is documented. The sample configuration that one can find > at /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT includes a comment: > > # WARNING: IPFIREWALL defaults to a policy of "deny ip from any to any" > # and if you do not add other rules during startup to allow access, # > YOU WILL LOCK YOURSELF OUT. It is suggested that you set > firewall_type=open # in /etc/rc.conf when first enabling this feature, > then refining the # firewall rules in /etc/rc.firewall after you've > tested that the new kernel # feature works properly. > > Ignoring this is not a fault of the documentation :( You are right. The documentation is there. However, finding this is not easy for a beginner. It wouldn't hurt to mention it ipfw(8) and the handbook. But that takes work and is redundant :-) Nick Rogness To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 4 0: 0:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112AE37B401 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1678A43ED4 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:00:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0480MNS034841 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:00:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0480MoZ034840; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C396937B401 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 23:53:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to (pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to [213.130.163.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B3343EA9 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 23:53:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shamrock@pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to) Received: by pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 39DA73648A; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 08:53:23 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20030104075323.39DA73648A@pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to> Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 08:53:23 +0100 (CET) From: Lucky Green Reply-To: Lucky Green To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: shamrock@cypherpunks.to X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/46747: Handbook: missing IPFW foot-shooting warning Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 46747 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook: missing IPFW foot-shooting warning >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jan 04 00:00:22 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Lucky Green >Release: FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE-p5 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to 4.6.2-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE-p5 #0: Tue Dec 31 06:33:55 CET 2002 root@pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PAKASTELOHI-20021231 i386 >Description: Even though LINT contains an IPFW foot-shooting warning, the step-by-step instructions on enabling IPFW at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls.html do not. Consequently, administrators following the above instructions to the letter are likely to lock themselves out of their machines. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Apply the following doc patch to /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/chapter.sgml *** chapter.sgml.orig Sat Jan 4 07:52:10 2003 --- chapter.sgml Sat Jan 4 08:34:58 2003 *************** *** 2048,2053 **** --- 2048,2067 ---- linkend="kernelconfig">) for more details on how to recompile your kernel. + + Warning + IPFW defaults to a policy of "deny ip from any to any". + If you do not add other rules during startup to allow access, + you will lock yourself out of the server upon + rebooting into a firewall-enabled kernel. It is therefore + suggested that you set firewall_type=open in /etc/rc.conf when first enabling + this feature, then refining the firewall rules in /etc/rc.firewall + after you've tested that the new kernel feature works properly. To be + on the safe side, you may wish to consider performing the initial + firewall configuration from the local console rather than + via ssh. + + There are currently three kernel configuration options relevant to IPFW: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 4 0: 4:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E80937B401 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:04:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A9E43EE5 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:04:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a172.otenet.gr [212.205.215.172]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0484S4V000146; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 10:04:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0484Sh2005485; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 10:04:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0484SPB005484; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 10:04:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 10:04:28 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Nick Rogness Cc: Lucky Green , l.rizzo@iet.unipi.it, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW: suicidal defaults Message-ID: <20030104080428.GA5322@gothmog.gr> References: <20030103212617.GC2505@gothmog.gr> <20030103195642.G6257-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030103195642.G6257-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-01-03 20:01, Nick Rogness wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > Agreed. There should be a mention. However, someone has to write > > > it. Instead of bitchin about it, go ahead and submit a change > > > (bug report). > > > > Oh but it is documented. The sample configuration that one can find > > at /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT includes a comment: > > [...] > > Ignoring this is not a fault of the documentation :( > > You are right. The documentation is there. However, finding this > is not easy for a beginner. It wouldn't hurt to mention it > ipfw(8) and the handbook. > > But that takes work and is redundant :-) Actually, no work is redundant. All the help you can give in improving our documentation is welcome, and much appreciated. In this particular case, all the references I could find to LINT in the kernelconfig/chapter.sgml chapter of the handbook were: [ Quoting doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml ] %% 411 id="kernelconfig-options"> An exhaustive list of options and more 412 detailed explanations of the device lines is present in the 413 LINT configuration file, located in the same 414 directory as GENERIC. If you are in doubt as 415 to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in 416 LINT. %% 441 closely. For details of all the possible kernel options, see 442 /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT. ... The first paragraph looks like it needs a bit of toning up, in order to be more obvious and stand out. But some doumentation *is* there. If you think that it can be improved, then please, by all means, help us improve it. Post your changes to the freebsd-doc list or file a problem report under the ``docs'' category. - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 4 0:46:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95CE37B401; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943FA43EB2; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:46:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (keramida@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h048kcNS050471; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:46:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h048kcYs050467; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:46:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:46:38 -0800 (PST) From: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <200301040846.h048kcYs050467@freefall.freebsd.org> To: keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/46747: Handbook: missing IPFW foot-shooting warning Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook: missing IPFW foot-shooting warning Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Jan 4 00:46:08 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Refining the patch with Lucky. I'll handle this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46747 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 4 4:41:33 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460F237B401 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 04:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [63.93.4.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D14443EB2 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 04:41:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h04CfNb6037320; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 05:41:23 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h04CfI5K037317; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 05:41:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 05:41:18 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Lucky Green Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/46747: Handbook: missing IPFW foot-shooting warning In-Reply-To: <20030104075323.39DA73648A@pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to> Message-ID: <20030104053849.W37310@wonkity.com> References: <20030104075323.39DA73648A@pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Lucky Green wrote: > + > + Warning > + IPFW defaults to a policy of "deny ip from any to any". Maybe a section might be better. Higher priority than or , at least to my mind. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 4 6: 9:15 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988C737B401; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 06:09:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4219E43EB2; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 06:09:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (blackend@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h04E9ENS073128; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 06:09:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blackend@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from blackend@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h04E9EQc073113; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 06:09:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 06:09:14 -0800 (PST) From: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <200301041409.h04E9EQc073113@freefall.freebsd.org> To: blackend@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, blackend@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/46616: Any missing tags (Chapter 20-Handbook). Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Any missing tags (Chapter 20-Handbook). Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->blackend Responsible-Changed-By: blackend Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Jan 4 06:08:51 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I will take care of this one. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46616 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 4 9:29: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B644037B401; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 09:29:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust47.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F11943EB2; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 09:29:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18Us6b-0000pa-00; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:29:05 +0000 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 17:29:05 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Nick Rogness , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW: suicidal defaults Message-ID: <20030104172905.GA2966@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Giorgos Keramidas , Nick Rogness , doc@freebsd.org References: <20030103212617.GC2505@gothmog.gr> <20030103195642.G6257-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> <20030104080428.GA5322@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030104080428.GA5322@gothmog.gr> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. X-message-flag-attribution: suresh, sdm. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 10:04:28AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > You are right. The documentation is there. However, finding this > > is not easy for a beginner. It wouldn't hurt to mention it > > ipfw(8) and the handbook. > > > > But that takes work and is redundant :-) > > Actually, no work is redundant. All the help you can give in > improving our documentation is welcome, and much appreciated. > > If you think that it can be improved, then please, by all means, help > us improve it. Post your changes to the freebsd-doc list or file a > problem report under the ``docs'' category. Something like OpenBSD's options(4) manual page would be really nice: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=options Ceri -- My fist seeks your destruction! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 4 11:25:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546BB37B401; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A3743EC2; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:25:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from moble.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h04JPMhg006721; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:25:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:25:46 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Ceri Davies Cc: keramida@FreeBSD.org, nick@rogness.net, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: IPFW: suicidal defaults Message-Id: <20030104142546.09a3238e.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030104172905.GA2966@submonkey.net> References: <20030103212617.GC2505@gothmog.gr> <20030103195642.G6257-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> <20030104080428.GA5322@gothmog.gr> <20030104172905.GA2966@submonkey.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.8claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 4 Jan 2003 17:29:05 +0000 Ceri Davies wrote: > On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 10:04:28AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > > > You are right. The documentation is there. However, finding > > > this is not easy for a beginner. It wouldn't hurt to mention it > > > ipfw(8) and the handbook. > > > > > > But that takes work and is redundant :-) > > > > Actually, no work is redundant. All the help you can give in > > improving our documentation is welcome, and much appreciated. > > > > If you think that it can be improved, then please, by all means, > > help us improve it. Post your changes to the freebsd-doc list or > > file a problem report under the ``docs'' category. > > Something like OpenBSD's options(4) manual page would be really nice: > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=options > > Ceri > -- > My fist seeks your destruction! That does look nice! -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 4 11:36:57 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FF137B401 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:36:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-server4.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server4.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581AB43EC2 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:36:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from offer1@cfl.rr.com) Received: from david-congero (207.107.35.65.cfl.rr.com [65.35.107.207]) by smtp-server4.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id h04JapeO023849 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:36:55 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: offer1 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Credit Card Fraud Message-ID: <20031452617doc@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 14:36:57 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Would you like to know more about credit card fraud on the internet and how to stop it? 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Thank you for your time To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 4 12:16:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0DE37B401; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:16:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD56543EA9; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:16:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51) with ESMTP id <20030104201622051006kb21e>; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 20:16:22 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h04KIST4083289; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:18:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h04KINov083288; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:18:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Nick Rogness , Lucky Green , l.rizzo@iet.unipi.it, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW: suicidal defaults References: <20030103212617.GC2505@gothmog.gr> <20030103195642.G6257-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> <20030104080428.GA5322@gothmog.gr> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 04 Jan 2003 12:18:23 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20030104080428.GA5322@gothmog.gr> Message-ID: Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Giorgos Keramidas writes: > The first paragraph looks like it needs a bit of toning up, in order > to be more obvious and stand out. But some doumentation *is* there. And it's more-or-less duplicated near the top of GENERIC, which kernel builders should read. That "should" be good enough, but it isn't, of course, and the proposed handbook change will no doubt help some. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 4 12:30:53 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F78E37B401 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.webtt.biz (ns.webtt.biz [64.239.29.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9613C43EA9 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:30:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rui@ruilopes.com) Received: (qmail 4777 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2003 20:32:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chico) (rui@ruilopes.com@217.129.148.192) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Jan 2003 20:32:16 -0000 From: "Rui Lopes" To: Subject: Mistake in Developer's Handbook Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 20:30:41 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c2b430$27af6070$c09481d9@chico> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I've found a mistake in this document, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/x32 73.html The Instruction Pointer of a CPU after reset is 0xfffffff0 and not 0xffffff00. Refer to "Intel System Programming Guide" section 3.2.1. The only thing missing is the boot1 part; maybe I can write something about it. BTW, I'm enjoying reading that document. Thanks! -- Rui Lopes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 4 14:22:43 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D3037B401; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:22:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A2343EA9; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:22:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (keramida@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h04MMfNS014023; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:22:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h04MMfrW014019; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:22:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:22:41 -0800 (PST) From: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <200301042222.h04MMfrW014019@freefall.freebsd.org> To: keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43755: Additional examples for vnconfig man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Additional examples for vnconfig man page Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Jan 4 14:22:15 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll handle this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43755 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message