From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 06:02:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B27737B401 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 06:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.ovh.net (b4.ovh.net [213.186.33.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413A043F3F for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 06:02:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pcasidy@casidy.com) Received: (qmail 24524 invoked by uid 503); 26 May 2003 13:02:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gueway.home) (212.43.253.140) by ns0.ovh.net with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 26 May 2003 13:02:20 -0000 Received: from casidy.com (littleoak.home [192.168.1.3]) by gueway.home (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4QD37QN007035 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 15:03:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pcasidy@casidy.com) Message-Id: <200305261303.h4QD37QN007035@gueway.home> Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 15:00:17 +0200 (CEST) From: pcasidy@casidy.com To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; BOUNDARY="0-596516649-1053954032=:276" Subject: PPC Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:02:25 -0000 --0-596516649-1053954032=:276 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi! I would like your opinions on the two followings cards in order to join the freebsd-ppc dev. Both are mainly made to replace old 68k Amigas but they can run Linux-PPC too: Pegasos: is a mainboard with a cpu daughterboard and FreeBSD is marked as being ported on: http://pegasosppc.com/tech_specs.php And the other wich looks like to be more expensive: http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/information.php Thanks for your comments. Phil. --0-596516649-1053954032=:276 Content-Type: APPLICATION/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQA+0g/qxDdaoI2kX04RAvuCAJ4i1Q+488+V6LWPcbbtgx+9za5pSgCXXQGU ZDFq4b0t4yFws6ZlQd/4IA== =23+X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0-596516649-1053954032=:276-- From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 12:16:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48F337B401 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 12:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.network-electronics.com (mail.network-electronics.com [195.1.135.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DCE43F85 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 12:16:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olegil@samfundet.no) Received: from samfundet.no (olegil.network-electronics.com [10.10.10.154]) by mail.network-electronics.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BDB26404F for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 21:16:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3ED26810.3070906@samfundet.no> Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 21:16:32 +0200 From: Ole-Egil Hvitmyren User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030430 Debian/1.3-5 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <200305261303.h4QD37QN007035@gueway.home> In-Reply-To: <200305261303.h4QD37QN007035@gueway.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: PPC Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 19:16:35 -0000 pcasidy@casidy.com wrote: >Hi! > >I would like your opinions on the two followings cards in order to join >the freebsd-ppc dev. > > > >And the other wich looks like to be more expensive: >http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/information.php > > > I've got one of these if anyone wants more information or wants to try out a port :-) I've had it a year already, and am using it with Debian GNU/Linux. We're using U-Boot, so I guess the Pegasos with OF is better suited for FreeBSD at the moment, no? But still, there is a lot of boards running U-Boot now, so a way to load FreeBSD from U-Boot would be very much appreciated. -- AmigaOne dev list FAQ (when I say F, I mean F): http://www.samfundet.no/~olegil/amiga/ From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 15:37:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8126837B40C for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 15:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from motgate2.mot.com (motgate2.mot.com [136.182.1.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EE043F85 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 15:37:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Aron.J.Silverton@motorola.com) Received: from az33exr04.mot.com (az33exr04.mot.com [10.64.251.234]) by motgate2.mot.com (Motorola/Motgate2) with ESMTP id h4QMblAU004736 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 15:37:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from il02exm02.corp.mot.com (il02exm02.corp.mot.com [10.0.100.55]) by az33exr04.mot.com (Motorola/az33exr04) with ESMTP id h4QMbj5i006111 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 17:37:45 -0500 Received: by il02exm02.corp.mot.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Mon, 26 May 2003 17:37:45 -0500 Message-ID: <4D87884B6A6D4E438A8592BCC9C85DCA091D2222@il02exm06.corp.mot.com> From: Silverton Aron-C1710C To: "'freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org'" Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 17:36:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Porting to Compact PCI X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 22:37:49 -0000 There has been a lot of talk lately about porting to other boards, so I thought I'd share some of my plans with the list. As a disclaimer, I should point out that anything that I do is contingent upon my day job responsibilities and this makes it difficult for me to commit to any schedules. I have some MCIP805 boards which are MPC7410 based with a Harrier ASIC doing most of the important stuff. (Documentation is available from http://www.motorola.com/mcg or from me by request.) I'd like to port FreeBSD to this board and I think that doing so will provide a good starting point for porting to other Compact PCI boards. I have little to no experience with this, but I am motivated to learn. The way I see it, this is what needs to be done at a very high level: 1. Boot Linux using U-Boot on this board. This will show that U-Boot is working well enough with this board to move onto FreeBSD specific stuff. There should be pretty good support for this board from Montavista and Linux-PPC so this step should be largely U-Boot centric without any Linux hacking. 2. Try U-Boot and FreeBSD. I think that this will require a bunch of U-Boot specific stuff as well as some board specific drivers that could also be merged with FreeBSD-PowerPC. This should also firm up FreeBSD support in general under U-Boot. 3. Once U-Boot gets to the point where it is trying to boot a FreeBSD kernel, plug away at the Harrier ASIC, Flash memory, and any other peripheral support needed by the board and merge with FreeBSD-PowerPC. The MCIP805 programmer's manual contains a good list of components and has links to additional documentation. There is one other person in my office that has expressed interest in working on this. I don't anticipate doing anything other than collecting documentation until the end of June. In July I will work on setting up a Compact PCI chassis with at least one MCIP805 accessible to the outside world. I'll also set up console access from a boot server that will also be accessible from the Internet. In all likelihood, the boot server will be accessible to the Internet and from the boot server you will be able to reach the MCIP805 via a private network or the console port. Let me know what everybody thinks. Aron Aron J. Silverton Senior Staff Research Engineer Motorola Labs, Networks and Infrastructure Research Motorola, Inc. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 16:36:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0EC637B401 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 16:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D5943F93 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 16:36:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-203-45-236-129.qld.bigpond.net.au [203.45.236.129]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id AAD38453 (AUTH peterg@ptree32.com.au); Tue, 27 May 2003 09:36:38 +1000 (EST) Sender: grehan@dommail.onthenet.com.au Message-ID: <3ED2A50C.3DA1CF54@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 09:36:44 +1000 From: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pcasidy@casidy.com References: <200305261303.h4QD37QN007035@gueway.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPC Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:36:49 -0000 Hi Phil, > Both are mainly made to replace old 68k Amigas but they can run > Linux-PPC too: > Pegasos: is a mainboard with a cpu daughterboard and FreeBSD is marked > as being ported on: > http://pegasosppc.com/tech_specs.php > > And the other wich looks like to be more expensive: > http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/information.php They both seem to have similar h/w and would be fun to port to. I'm not aware of anyone doing a Pegasos port, but it would be easier at the current time since it uses OpenFirmware as the boot monitor. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 16:52:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DB437B401 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 16:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A7343F75 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 16:52:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-203-45-236-129.qld.bigpond.net.au [203.45.236.129]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id AAD38876 (AUTH peterg@ptree32.com.au); Tue, 27 May 2003 09:52:31 +1000 (EST) Sender: grehan@dommail.onthenet.com.au Message-ID: <3ED2A8C5.2E19EA11@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 09:52:37 +1000 From: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Silverton Aron-C1710C References: <4D87884B6A6D4E438A8592BCC9C85DCA091D2222@il02exm06.corp.mot.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "'freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Porting to Compact PCI X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:52:38 -0000 Hi Aron, > 1. Boot Linux using U-Boot on this board. I suspect this will be an easy step. > 2. Try U-Boot and FreeBSD. I think that this will require a bunch of > U-Boot specific stuff as well as some board specific drivers that could also > be merged with FreeBSD-PowerPC. This should also firm up FreeBSD support in > general under U-Boot. The main issue with U-Boot is that it doesn't export a low-level driver interface, which the loader really wants to see. The alternative is to implement polled-mode drivers in loader, which is really replicating what U-Boot already does, so I think the best path is to extend U-Boot's "syscall" interface to allow access to it's existing driver code. > 3. Once U-Boot gets to the point where it is trying to boot a FreeBSD > kernel, plug away at the Harrier ASIC, Flash memory, and any other > peripheral support needed by the board and merge with FreeBSD-PowerPC. The > MCIP805 programmer's manual contains a good list of components and has links > to additional documentation. The PPC port is currently way too tied to OpenFirmware, but it's always been known that this has to be split out. Another issue is JFFS2 support in FreeBSD, which is what U-Boot uses for it's flash filesystem. This would probably involve ext2fs-like copyright issues. > Let me know what everybody thinks. It's an excellent plan, and will help to realise the ultimate goal of the PPC port which was embedded systems. It is very handy to have a fast G4 Mac for native builds though :-) later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 12:24:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9213937B401 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D63A43FAF for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:24:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4RJOXTY011414; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:24:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4RJOWWl011413; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:24:32 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: pcasidy@casidy.com Message-ID: <20030527192432.GC10522@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <200305261303.h4QD37QN007035@gueway.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200305261303.h4QD37QN007035@gueway.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPC Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 19:24:53 -0000 On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 03:00:17PM +0200, pcasidy@casidy.com wrote: > Hi! > > I would like your opinions on the two followings cards in order to join > the freebsd-ppc dev. > > Both are mainly made to replace old 68k Amigas but they can run > Linux-PPC too: > Pegasos: is a mainboard with a cpu daughterboard and FreeBSD is marked > as being ported on: > http://pegasosppc.com/tech_specs.php I can't find where FreeBSD is listed as supported -- only MorphOS and Debian GNU/Linux. Do you know the pricing on these boards? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 12:45:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC3237B405 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.ovh.net (b4.ovh.net [213.186.33.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4495D43FE9 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:45:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pcasidy@casidy.com) Received: (qmail 13356 invoked by uid 503); 27 May 2003 19:44:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gueway.home) (212.43.253.140) by ns0.ovh.net with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 27 May 2003 19:44:48 -0000 Received: from casidy.com (littleoak.home [192.168.1.3]) by gueway.home (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4RJk8nl069954; Tue, 27 May 2003 21:46:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pcasidy@casidy.com) Message-Id: <200305271946.h4RJk8nl069954@gueway.home> Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:43:13 +0200 (CEST) From: pcasidy@casidy.com To: obrien@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030527192432.GC10522@dragon.nuxi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; BOUNDARY="0-1303455736-1054064607=:321" cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPC Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 19:45:36 -0000 --0-1303455736-1054064607=:321 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii On 27 May, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 03:00:17PM +0200, pcasidy@casidy.com wrote: >> Hi! >> >> I would like your opinions on the two followings cards in order to join >> the freebsd-ppc dev. >> >> Both are mainly made to replace old 68k Amigas but they can run >> Linux-PPC too: >> Pegasos: is a mainboard with a cpu daughterboard and FreeBSD is marked >> as being ported on: >> http://pegasosppc.com/tech_specs.php > > I can't find where FreeBSD is listed as supported -- only MorphOS and > Debian GNU/Linux. Do you know the pricing on these boards? > Not being supported yet but being ported on; at the bottom of the following page: http://64.246.37.205/operating_systems.php Anyway, it looks like this platform is not available at the moment. All have been sold and no more will be produced until the next version. Phil. --0-1303455736-1054064607=:321 Content-Type: APPLICATION/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+07/ZxDdaoI2kX04RAjn6AJwNRcZGqUitl43PO086yoZiN+PKCgCdFZeJ LFb6ksdRFlDl871Ixdd1IXE= =UHBn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0-1303455736-1054064607=:321-- From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 19:06:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930E337B401; Tue, 27 May 2003 19:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from motgate6.mot.com (motgate6.mot.com [144.189.100.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C2543FAF; Tue, 27 May 2003 19:06:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajs@labs.mot.com) Received: from il06exr04.mot.com (il06exr04.mot.com [129.188.137.134]) by motgate6.mot.com (Motorola/Motgate6) with ESMTP id h4S26tgZ005793; Tue, 27 May 2003 19:06:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from LUENA (mvp-192-172-8-83.corp.mot.com [192.172.8.83]) h4S26qQx028725; Tue, 27 May 2003 21:06:53 -0500 From: "Aron J. Silverton" To: "'Peter Grehan'" Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:06:50 -0500 Organization: Networks and Infrastructure Research Lab Message-ID: <4D87884B6A6D4E438A8592BCC9C85DCA079C3156@il02exm06.corp.mot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3ED2A8C5.2E19EA11@freebsd.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Porting to Compact PCI X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ajs@labs.mot.com List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 02:06:57 -0000 Comments inline. owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org wrote: > Hi Aron, >=20 >> 1. Boot Linux using U-Boot on this board. >=20 > I suspect this will be an easy step. >=20 I hope so, but I've been reading the U-boot list and I have my doubts. >> 2. Try U-Boot and FreeBSD. =20 >=20 > The main issue with U-Boot is that it doesn't export a low-level > driver interface, which the loader really wants to see. The > alternative is to implement polled-mode drivers in loader, which is > really replicating what U-Boot already does, so I think the best path > is to extend U-Boot's "syscall" interface to allow access to it's > existing driver code. =20 >=20 I've heard that U-Boot is already supposed to have some support, albeit rudimentary, support for FreeBSD. Are you familiar with the extent of = this? > The PPC port is currently way too tied to OpenFirmware, but it's > always been known that this has to be split out.=20 >=20 > Another issue is JFFS2 support in FreeBSD, which is what U-Boot uses > for it's flash filesystem. This would probably involve ext2fs-like > copyright issues. =20 >=20 What is the copyright issue? I'm not familiar with this. >> Let me know what everybody thinks. >=20 > It's an excellent plan, and will help to realise the ultimate goal > of the PPC port which was embedded systems. It is very handy to have > a fast G4 Mac for native builds though :-) =20 >=20 I hope that we can help. Others should feel free to join us. We'll be cross compiling on our end as we have no Macs. > later, >=20 > Peter. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc To unsubscribe, > send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=20 From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 07:10:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20C637B401 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 07:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD48E43F3F for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 07:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-203-45-236-129.qld.bigpond.net.au [203.45.236.129]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id AAE08566 (AUTH peterg@ptree32.com.au); Fri, 30 May 2003 00:10:43 +1000 (EST) Sender: grehan@dommail.onthenet.com.au Message-ID: <3ED61501.764EF2C@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 00:11:13 +1000 From: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ajs@labs.mot.com References: <4D87884B6A6D4E438A8592BCC9C85DCA079C3156@il02exm06.corp.mot.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Porting to Compact PCI X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 14:10:54 -0000 Hi Aron, > > I suspect this will be an easy step. > > > > I hope so, but I've been reading the U-boot list and I have my doubts. That doesn't sound good. I'd made a guess given that U-Boot had 74xx support and ran on a whole host of platforms. > I've heard that U-Boot is already supposed to have some support, albeit > rudimentary, support for FreeBSD. Are you familiar with the extent of this? There really isn't any other than a #define in a header file. There's some code to load a NetBSD secondary loader, but I thought a better approach would be to have FreeBSD's loader run as a U-Boot 'app', similar to what they have in examples/*.c. > > Another issue is JFFS2 support in FreeBSD, which is what U-Boot uses > > for it's flash filesystem. This would probably involve ext2fs-like > > copyright issues. > > > > What is the copyright issue? I'm not familiar with this. The JFFS2 implementation in U-Boot seems to be derived from eCOS, so it's either GPL'd or under the eCOS public license, and I'm not sure if the latter is compatible with the BSD license. So, the code may have to live outside the main kernel directory similar to the GPL'd sys/gnu/ext2fs. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 13:40:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1B237B401 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 13:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars.oxyd.fr (mars.oxyd.fr [212.43.245.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C34043F75 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 13:40:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pcasidy@casidy.com) Received: from gueway.home (du-253-140.nat.adsl.claranet.fr [212.43.253.140]) by mars.oxyd.fr (8.12.6/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4UKei2v012765 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 22:40:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pcasidy@casidy.com) Received: from casidy.com (littleoak.home [192.168.1.3]) by gueway.home (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4UKfX2i005750 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 22:41:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pcasidy@casidy.com) Message-Id: <200305302041.h4UKfX2i005750@gueway.home> Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 22:38:34 +0200 (CEST) From: pcasidy@casidy.com To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4D87884B6A6D4E438A8592BCC9C85DCA091D2222@il02exm06.corp.mot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Porting to Compact PCI X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 20:40:53 -0000 On 26 May, Silverton Aron-C1710C wrote: > There has been a lot of talk lately about porting to other boards, so I > is what needs to be done at a very high level: > > 1. Boot Linux using U-Boot on this board. This will show that U-Boot is > working well enough with this board to move onto FreeBSD specific stuff. > There should be pretty good support for this board from Montavista and > Linux-PPC so this step should be largely U-Boot centric without any Linux > hacking. > Where to find docs about U-Boot? What's the starting point? Google search leads me to Linux stuff. Thanks Phil. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 13:58:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D95F37B401 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 13:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from motgate.mot.com (motgate.mot.com [129.188.136.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736C043F75 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 13:58:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajs@labs.mot.com) Received: from az33exr01.mot.com (az33exr01.mot.com [10.64.251.231]) by motgate.mot.com (Motorola/Motgate) with ESMTP id h4UKws7x024372; Fri, 30 May 2003 13:58:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from LUENA (mvp-144-189-3-133.corp.mot.com [144.189.3.133]) h4UKwSqc004620; Fri, 30 May 2003 15:58:30 -0500 From: "Aron J. Silverton" To: , Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 15:58:26 -0500 Organization: Networks and Infrastructure Research Lab Message-ID: <4D87884B6A6D4E438A8592BCC9C85DCA079C318B@il02exm06.corp.mot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-reply-to: <200305302041.h4UKfX2i005750@gueway.home> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Porting to Compact PCI X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ajs@labs.mot.com List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 20:58:57 -0000 owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org wrote: > On 26 May, Silverton Aron-C1710C wrote: >> There has been a lot of talk lately about porting to other boards, so >> I > >> is what needs to be done at a very high level: >>=20 >> 1. Boot Linux using U-Boot on this board. This will show that >> U-Boot is working well enough with this board to move onto FreeBSD >> specific stuff. There should be pretty good support for this board >> from Montavista and Linux-PPC so this step should be largely U-Boot >> centric without any Linux hacking.=20 >>=20 >=20 > Where to find docs about U-Boot? What's the starting point? Google > search leads me to Linux stuff.=20 >=20 U-Boot is on sourceforge at, http://sourceforge.net/projects/u-boot. = U-Boot is capable of working with any OS so long as one is willing to do the necessary porting. Most of what has been done so far is oriented = towards booting Linux kernels. > Thanks >=20 > Phil. >=20 Aron