From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 11 15:22:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD1C16A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:22:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lewis.lclark.edu (www.pnacac.org [149.175.1.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 235D543FBF for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:22:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: from [149.175.34.27] ([149.175.34.27]) by lewis.lclark.edu (SAVSMTP 3.1.1.32) with SMTP id M2003111115223711362 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:22:37 -0800 From: Eric Anholt To: x11@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1068592967.59855.5.camel@leguin> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:22:48 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: First message to new mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:22:40 -0000 This is just a test of the new x11@FreeBSD.org mailing list, for maintaining and support of the base X11 ports. -- Eric Anholt eta@lclark.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/ anholt@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 11 16:19:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1232516A4CE; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:19:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F03843FBD; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:19:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (anholt@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAC0JfFY075012; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:19:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from anholt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAC0JfXD075008; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:19:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:19:41 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Anholt Message-Id: <200311120019.hAC0JfXD075008@freefall.freebsd.org> To: anholt@FreeBSD.org, anholt@FreeBSD.org, x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/32121: XFree86-4-Server: xf86cfg 4.1.0 writes bad "Chipset" value for Voodoo cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 00:19:42 -0000 Synopsis: XFree86-4-Server: xf86cfg 4.1.0 writes bad "Chipset" value for Voodoo cards Responsible-Changed-From-To: anholt->x11 Responsible-Changed-By: anholt Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Nov 11 16:17:47 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Assign to new x11 ports mailinglist. I'd been not handling this PR because it seems like, if we are going to support the tools that use Cards, we shold import a much more updated one from RedHat. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32121 From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 11 16:33:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702AC16A4DF; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:33:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB26943FE1; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:33:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (anholt@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAC0XUFY078134; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:33:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from anholt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAC0XUpo078130; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:33:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:33:30 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Anholt Message-Id: <200311120033.hAC0XUpo078130@freefall.freebsd.org> To: anholt@FreeBSD.org, anholt@FreeBSD.org, x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/59155: [PATCH] x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer installs manpage confilcting w/ x11-servers/XFree86-Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 00:33:31 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 00:33:31 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer installs manpage confilcting w/ x11-servers/XFree86-Server Responsible-Changed-From-To: anholt->x11 Responsible-Changed-By: anholt Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Nov 11 16:33:04 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Assign to new x11 ports mailinglist. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=59155 From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 11 16:34:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4C116A4CE; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:34:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA5443FE5; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:34:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (anholt@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAC0Y2FY078195; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:34:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from anholt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAC0Y2vM078191; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:34:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:34:02 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Anholt Message-Id: <200311120034.hAC0Y2vM078191@freefall.freebsd.org> To: anholt@FreeBSD.org, anholt@FreeBSD.org, x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/56487: Upgrading Xfree86-clients from ports overwrites xdm config files X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 00:34:03 -0000 Synopsis: Upgrading Xfree86-clients from ports overwrites xdm config files Responsible-Changed-From-To: anholt->x11 Responsible-Changed-By: anholt Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Nov 11 16:33:42 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Assign to new x11 ports mailinglist. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=56487 From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 11 16:35:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F1416A4CE; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:35:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8D843FEA; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:35:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (anholt@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAC0ZGFY078321; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:35:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from anholt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAC0ZGp3078317; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:35:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:35:16 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Anholt Message-Id: <200311120035.hAC0ZGp3078317@freefall.freebsd.org> To: anholt@FreeBSD.org, anholt@FreeBSD.org, x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/55699: [PATCH] making x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server able to use mga hal library X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 00:35:16 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] making x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server able to use mga hal library Responsible-Changed-From-To: anholt->x11 Responsible-Changed-By: anholt Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Nov 11 16:35:05 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Assign to new x11 ports mailinglist. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=55699 From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 11 16:35:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B7916A4CF; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:35:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D2243FD7; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:35:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (anholt@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAC0ZkFY078374; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:35:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from anholt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAC0Zkvl078370; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:35:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:35:46 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Anholt Message-Id: <200311120035.hAC0Zkvl078370@freefall.freebsd.org> To: anholt@FreeBSD.org, anholt@FreeBSD.org, x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/44252: XFree86-4-Server port removes/overwrites config files X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 00:35:47 -0000 Synopsis: XFree86-4-Server port removes/overwrites config files Responsible-Changed-From-To: anholt->x11 Responsible-Changed-By: anholt Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Nov 11 16:35:27 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Assign to new x11 ports mailinglist. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=44252 From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 11 16:37:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AD016A4CE; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAEC943FAF; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:37:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (anholt@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAC0bRFY078427; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:37:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from anholt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAC0bRDA078423; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:37:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:37:27 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Anholt Message-Id: <200311120037.hAC0bRDA078423@freefall.freebsd.org> To: anholt@FreeBSD.org, anholt@FreeBSD.org, x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/25576: XFree86-4 port installs manual pages with clashing names X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 00:37:28 -0000 Synopsis: XFree86-4 port installs manual pages with clashing names Responsible-Changed-From-To: anholt->x11 Responsible-Changed-By: anholt Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Nov 11 16:36:09 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Assign to new x11 ports mailinglist. At least some linux distributions have a "4x" manpage section where these XFree86 manpages are. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25576 From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 12 12:30:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CC516A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:30:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [193.197.184.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F0543FE9 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:30:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from naddy@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with gbsmtp id 1AK1dO-0006yd-00; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:30:38 +0100 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hACHThl3001394 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:29:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy@kemoauc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from naddy@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hACHTg4c001393 for x11@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:29:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:29:42 +0100 From: Christian Weisgerber To: x11@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20031112172942.GA1144@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: XFree86-4-Server-snap on alpha/MGA X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:30:41 -0000 I have just replaced XFree86-Server-4.3.0_12 with XFree86-Server-4.3.99.15 (from the -snap port) on my 5.1-CURRENT/alpha/Matrox-Mystique box. The good news is that switching from X11 back to a VGA console works again; with 4.3.0 this used to leave the graphics card in a state where it wouldn't produce a signal my monitor could sync to. On the negative side, "X -query " has stopped working. The server can't connect to any xdm daemon, neither to a local one nor to remote hosts. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 13 17:55:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0584016A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:55:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lewis.lclark.edu (pnacac.org [149.175.1.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50ACF43FBD for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:55:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: from [149.175.34.27] ([149.175.34.27]) by lewis.lclark.edu (SAVSMTP 3.1.1.32) with SMTP id M2003111317552413814 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:55:24 -0800 From: Eric Anholt To: x11@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1068774940.662.134.camel@leguin> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:55:41 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: New xlibs ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:55:29 -0000 So, people saw the headsup I posted to ports a few days ago, and some worries were brought up. To clarify: Some of the xlibs are original work by Keith Packard (libXcursor, libXrandr, libXrender) which XFree86 has been integrating sometimes since Keith was kicked out of XFree86. The rest of them are forks from XFree86 CVS, generally as of around the end of September. No fork of a full XFree86 tree exists. In one case, libX11, the original author is the maintainer now. These other xlibs have been converted to use autotools rather than imake for their build. Everything has retained its original license (MIT/X11 for X stuff), and new development has continued with MIT/X11, though there are no restrictions on licensing of new fd.o projects. I'm currently running my desktop with all the ports from fd-xlibs-2.tar.gz. I have seen no ill effects from this set of ports. However, there are some things that need to be done: - XFree86-4-libraries needs a (major) patch to stop building the things not provided in the new ports, and depend on the new ports. - bsd.port.mk needs to refer to a library that continues to be provided by XFree86-4-libraries rather than libX11. - XFree86-4*Server should link against the new libraries rather than building them themselves. - Legality of libXdmcp is unclear. AFAIK FreeBSD.org may export it because it already has authorization to export the file that includes 64-bit DES (Wraphelp.c, as used by the XFree86 ports currently). freedesktop hasn't completed the hoop-jumping necessary, so the distfile is located in my public_html on freefall. - dependencies in the new ports need to be checked thoroughly. - the new ports haven't been tested on non-x86. My idea for what the ports system will look like after the new ports are brought in: - XFree86-4-libraries continues to exist, depends on the new xlibs ports, and provides the remainder from XFree86. - XFree86-4*Server use the shared libraries. - Other ports may continue to USE_XLIB/USE_X_PREFIX to get all the X11 stuff, or could depend on the individual ports they require. None of this will be going into the ports tree before the freeze (releases have been pushed off longer than I expected). What's holding releases up is more testing, and people committed to maintaining individual libraries once released. The xlibs can be found at the freedesktop.org software page: http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/Home Prerelease tarballs are at: http://freedesktop.org/~xlibs/dist/ Prerelease ports are at: http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/xlibs-pre/fd-xlibs-2.tar.gz Status list of the prerelease ports is at: http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/xlibs-pre/xlibs-status.txt Screenshots of the fun things possible if we had a server that supported composite and damage extensions are at: http://freedesktop.org/~keithp/screenshots There is also an example port athttp://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/xlibs-pre/ from the X Server project at fd.o, xnest-port.tar.gz, which is a nesting X Server that uses many of the new ports. Unfortunately, it doesn't support the fancy new composite extension because it doesn't support render, which someone ought to fix. Or, better, someone ought to port the kdrive X Server so FreeBSD could use it. -- Eric Anholt eta@lclark.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/ anholt@FreeBSD.org