From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 21 02:03:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2058616A4CE for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:03:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEDA43D2D for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:03:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP id IBA74465; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 18:03:25 -0800 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 269D65D04; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 18:03:25 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Dan Pelleg In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 Nov 2004 06:01:38 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_-4527400770" Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 18:03:25 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20041121020325.269D65D04@ptavv.es.net> cc: Jochen Gensch cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acpi_video, 5.3-RELEASE, ThinkPad X31? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:03:27 -0000 This is a multipart MIME message. --==_Exmh_-4527400770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > From: Dan Pelleg > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 06:01:38 -0500 > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > Jochen Gensch writes: > > > Brad Karp wrote: > > > >> Are there known problems with acpi_video attaching on ThinkPads of some > >> models? How about known fixes? > > > > On my X31 (2672-CBU) I see this in dmesg: > > acpi_video0: port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xc0100000-0xc010ffff,0xe0000000-0xe7ffffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 > > However the backlight stays on on suspend. acpi_video lacks DPMS support at this time. John Baldwin posted a patch some time ago that adds support. I will append a copy of the patch that has been updated to patch cleanly against 5.3-Stable. jhb has said that does not intend to commit this patch. He's working on more general VGA support as a better fix, but I don't think it's at the top of his priority list, so it may not show up real soon. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 --==_Exmh_-4527400770 Content-Type: text/plain ; name="acpi_video_dpms.patch"; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: acpi_video_dpms.patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="acpi_video_dpms.patch" ==== //depot/projects/power/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_video.c#2 - /home/john/work/p4/power/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_video.c ==== @@ -1,5 +1,6 @@ /*- * Copyright (c) 2002-2003 Taku YAMAMOTO + * Copyright (c) 2004 Benjamin Close * All rights reserved. * * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without @@ -35,10 +36,33 @@ #include #include #include +#ifdef __i386__ +#include +#endif #include "acpi.h" #include +#ifdef __i386__ +#define USE_DPMS + +/* + * VESA DPMS States + */ +#define DPMS_ON 0x00 +#define DPMS_STANDBY 0x01 +#define DPMS_SUSPEND 0x02 +#define DPMS_OFF 0x04 +#define DPMS_REDUCEDON 0x08 + +#define VBE_DPMS_FUNCTION 0x4F10 +#define VBE_DPMS_GET_SUPPORTED_STATES 0x00 +#define VBE_DPMS_GET_STATE 0x02 +#define VBE_DPMS_SET_STATE 0x01 +#define VBE_MAJORVERSION_MASK 0x0F +#define VBE_MINORVERSION_MASK 0xF0 +#endif + /* ACPI video extension driver. */ struct acpi_video_output { ACPI_HANDLE handle; @@ -64,6 +88,10 @@ ACPI_HANDLE handle; struct acpi_video_output_queue vid_outputs; eventhandler_tag vid_pwr_evh; +#ifdef USE_DPMS + int vid_dpms_supported_states; + int vid_dpms_initial_state; +#endif }; /* interfaces */ @@ -72,6 +100,8 @@ static int acpi_video_attach(device_t); static int acpi_video_detach(device_t); static int acpi_video_shutdown(device_t); +static int acpi_video_suspend(device_t); +static int acpi_video_resume(device_t); static void acpi_video_notify_handler(ACPI_HANDLE, UINT32, void *); static void acpi_video_power_profile(void *); static void acpi_video_bind_outputs(struct acpi_video_softc *); @@ -93,6 +123,11 @@ static UINT32 vo_get_device_status(ACPI_HANDLE); static UINT32 vo_get_graphics_state(ACPI_HANDLE); static void vo_set_device_state(ACPI_HANDLE, UINT32); +#ifdef USE_DPMS +static int dpms_get_supported_states(int *); +static int dpms_get_current_state(int *); +static int dpms_set_state(int); +#endif /* events */ #define VID_NOTIFY_SWITCHED 0x80 @@ -140,6 +175,8 @@ DEVMETHOD(device_attach, acpi_video_attach), DEVMETHOD(device_detach, acpi_video_detach), DEVMETHOD(device_shutdown, acpi_video_shutdown), + DEVMETHOD(device_resume, acpi_video_resume), + DEVMETHOD(device_suspend, acpi_video_suspend), { 0, 0 } }; @@ -240,6 +277,13 @@ acpi_video_power_profile(sc); +#ifdef USE_DPMS + if (dpms_get_supported_states(&sc->vid_dpms_supported_states) == 0) + dpms_get_current_state(&sc->vid_dpms_initial_state); + else + sc->vid_dpms_supported_states = -1; +#endif + return (0); } @@ -277,6 +321,32 @@ return (0); } +static int +acpi_video_suspend(device_t dev) +{ + struct acpi_video_softc *sc; + + sc = device_get_softc(dev); +#ifdef USE_DPMS + if (sc->vid_dpms_supported_states != -1) + dpms_set_state(DPMS_OFF); +#endif + return (0); +} + +static int +acpi_video_resume(device_t dev) +{ + struct acpi_video_softc *sc; + + sc = device_get_softc(dev); +#ifdef USE_DPMS + if (sc->vid_dpms_supported_states != -1) + dpms_set_state(sc->vid_dpms_initial_state); +#endif + return (0); +} + static void acpi_video_notify_handler(ACPI_HANDLE handle __unused, UINT32 notify, void *context) @@ -887,3 +953,49 @@ printf("can't evaluate %s._DSS - %s\n", acpi_name(handle), AcpiFormatException(status)); } + +#ifdef USE_DPMS +/* XXX: Requires VM86 support in the kernel. */ +static int +dpms_call_bios(int subfunction, int *bh) +{ + struct vm86frame vmf; + int error; + + bzero(&vmf, sizeof(vmf)); + vmf.vmf_ax = VBE_DPMS_FUNCTION; + vmf.vmf_bl = subfunction; + vmf.vmf_bh = *bh; + vmf.vmf_es = 0; + vmf.vmf_di = 0; + error = vm86_intcall(0x10, &vmf); + if (error == 0 && (vmf.vmf_eax & 0xffff) != 0x004f) + error = ENXIO; + if (error == 0) + *bh = vmf.vmf_bh; + return (error); +} + +static int +dpms_get_supported_states(int *states) +{ + + *states = 0; + return (dpms_call_bios(VBE_DPMS_GET_SUPPORTED_STATES, states)); +} + +static int +dpms_get_current_state(int *state) +{ + + *state = 0; + return (dpms_call_bios(VBE_DPMS_GET_STATE, state)); +} + +static int +dpms_set_state(int state) +{ + + return (dpms_call_bios(VBE_DPMS_SET_STATE, &state)); +} +#endif --==_Exmh_-4527400770-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 21 02:57:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B37916A4CE for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:57:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gw.pelleg.org (gw.pelleg.org [205.201.13.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E7E43D48 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:57:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dpelleg@cs.cmu.edu) Received: from lank.here (lank.wburn [192.168.3.41]) by gw.pelleg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D245A53; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by lank.here (Postfix, from userid 7675) id E653543F2; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:57:09 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16800.1029.840645.192775@lank.wburn> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:57:09 -0500 To: Clive Lin In-Reply-To: <20041120141752.GB933@tongi.org> References: <20041117224401.CFA2643D55@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <419BD96B.7060108@gmx.de> <20041120141752.GB933@tongi.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" XEmacs Lucid From: Dan Pelleg cc: Jochen Gensch cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acpi_video, 5.3-RELEASE, ThinkPad X31? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dan Pelleg List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:57:14 -0000 Clive Lin writes: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 06:01:38AM -0500, Dan Pelleg wrote: > > Jochen Gensch writes: > > > Brad Karp wrote: > > >> Are there known problems with acpi_video attaching on ThinkPads of some > > >> models? How about known fixes? > > On my X31 (2672-CBU) I see this in dmesg: > > acpi_video0: port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xc0100000-0xc010ffff,0xe0000000-0xe7ffffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 > > However the backlight stays on on suspend. > > If you guys do not care about running X, a trick floating around > -current, `xset dpms force off`, does the right thing. > Thanks! that does the trick for me. The quick and dirty hack is just this line in /etc/rc.suspend: su MAINUSER -c "xset -display :0 dpms force off" Some cleaner ones are discussed at: http://freebsd.rambler.ru/bsdmail/freebsd-current_2004/msg02374.html -- Dan Pelleg From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 21 05:48:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27A216A4CF for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 05:48:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.apdip.net (zeus.apdip.net [202.187.94.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A695343D2D for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 05:48:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khairil@apdip.net) Received: from 192.168.1.5 (unknown [219.95.133.36]) by mail.apdip.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C022A4005; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:49:12 +0800 (MYT) From: Khairil Yusof To: eol1@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20041120200450.88989.qmail@web51909.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041120200450.88989.qmail@web51909.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: UNDP-APDIP International Open Source Network Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:46:49 +0800 Message-Id: <1101016009.10377.44.camel@wolverine.cerebro.net.my> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Arne Schwabe cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 on Thinkpad X40 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 05:48:09 -0000 On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 12:04 -0800, Peter Thoenen wrote: > > >> Has anybody gotten FreeBSD 5.3 to run ok on a Thinkpad X40? > > >> > > On all the recent X series I have owned (pretty much them all), you need to > boot into windows (ugh), run the thinkpad configuration tool, and disable the > secondary ATA controller. As Arne suggested, this has no noticable effect on > anything ... laptop still works fine, base station (w/ CDROM) works just fine, > etc etc. Once this has been accomplished, FreeBSD 5.x installs and runs with > no problems. Been running it every since the X40 came out. > Thank you Arne and Peter for the solution! I wonder why IBM just doesn't include a BIOS option for it :(. Unfortunately for me, I no longer have my Windows partition, so I'll have to create a dos boot floppy disk and run the ps2.exe dos utilities off of it. So I'm off to find a usb floppy drive now. Again thanks, you guys just made my weekend. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 21 16:17:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7653316A4D0 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:17:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gw.pelleg.org (gw.pelleg.org [205.201.13.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5522843E7C for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 15:57:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from daniel@pelleg.org) Received: from lank.here (lank.wburn [192.168.3.41]) by gw.pelleg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090845A53; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:57:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by lank.here (Postfix, from userid 7675) id 64F634342; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:57:55 -0500 (EST) To: Khairil Yusof References: <20041120200450.88989.qmail@web51909.mail.yahoo.com> <1101016009.10377.44.camel@wolverine.cerebro.net.my> From: Dan Pelleg Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:57:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1101016009.10377.44.camel@wolverine.cerebro.net.my> (Khairil Yusof's message of "Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:46:49 +0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: eol1@yahoo.com cc: Arne Schwabe cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 on Thinkpad X40 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:18:01 -0000 Khairil Yusof writes: > On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 12:04 -0800, Peter Thoenen wrote: >> > >> Has anybody gotten FreeBSD 5.3 to run ok on a Thinkpad X40? >> > >> >> >> On all the recent X series I have owned (pretty much them all), you need to >> boot into windows (ugh), run the thinkpad configuration tool, and disable the >> secondary ATA controller. As Arne suggested, this has no noticable effect on >> anything ... laptop still works fine, base station (w/ CDROM) works just fine, >> etc etc. Once this has been accomplished, FreeBSD 5.x installs and runs with >> no problems. Been running it every since the X40 came out. >> > > Thank you Arne and Peter for the solution! > > I wonder why IBM just doesn't include a BIOS option for it :(. > > Unfortunately for me, I no longer have my Windows partition, so I'll > have to create a dos boot floppy disk and run the ps2.exe dos utilities > off of it. So I'm off to find a usb floppy drive now. > > Again thanks, you guys just made my weekend. > No need for a USB floppy. Once you have the floppy image in a file boot.img, place it in a new directory, cd to that directory, and then: mkisofs -r -b boot.img -c boot.catalog -o ../bootcd.iso . You can now burn bootcd.iso to a CD-R, and boot from it on your USB CD-ROM. -- Dan Pelleg From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 21 16:18:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8AB16A4CE for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:18:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gw.pelleg.org (gw.pelleg.org [205.201.13.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5926A43D45 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:18:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from daniel@pelleg.org) Received: from lank.here (lank.wburn [192.168.3.41]) by gw.pelleg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFAB5A53; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by lank.here (Postfix, from userid 7675) id 8C3DC4342; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:18:38 -0500 (EST) To: Dan Pelleg References: <20041117224401.CFA2643D55@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <419BD96B.7060108@gmx.de> <20041120141752.GB933@tongi.org> <16800.1029.840645.192775@lank.wburn> From: Dan Pelleg Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:18:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: <16800.1029.840645.192775@lank.wburn> (Dan Pelleg's message of "Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:57:09 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: Clive Lin cc: Jochen Gensch cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acpi_video, 5.3-RELEASE, ThinkPad X31? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:18:42 -0000 Dan Pelleg writes: > Thanks! that does the trick for me. The quick and dirty hack is just this > line in /etc/rc.suspend: >... I spoke too soon. This only works if I suspend manually with acpiconf (more precisely, zzz(8) which calls it). The rc.{suspend,resume} scripts do not seem to get called if I close the lid. -- Dan Pelleg From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 21 17:46:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC0F16A4CE for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 17:46:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.prodigy.net.mx (nlpproxy03.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8A043D41 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 17:46:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lanjoe9@prodigy.net.mx) Received: from prodigy.net.mx (du-148-235-52-33.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.33]) by smtp.prodigy.net.mx (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I7J005WAIOIVV@smtp.prodigy.net.mx>; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:45:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from [148.235.52.104] (Forwarded-For: [200.66.179.183]) by nlpmail03.prodigy.net.mx (mshttpd); Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:48:02 -0600 Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:48:02 -0600 From: Alejandro lanjoe9 Valenzuela To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-id: <13508512fa00.12fa00135085@prodigy.net.mx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 2.01 (built Aug 26 2004) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: es Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: es Priority: non-urgent X-Priority: 5 (Lowest) Subject: Best HDD's for laptops? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 17:46:32 -0000 Hello, my laptop's HDD (Toshiba MK401GAS 40 GB) had a horrible mechanical failure a few days ago, after about 3 years of use. What HDD brands/models/manufacturers would you recommend? I need one that resists heavy use.. Thanks a lot in advance :) Alejandro From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 21 19:13:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1B616A4CE for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 19:13:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nestorius.nicaea.org (h216-170-019-172.adsl.navix.net [216.170.19.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91E643D41 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 19:13:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drc@nicaea.org) Received: from nestorius.nicaea.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nestorius.nicaea.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iALJDheJ031420 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:13:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from drc@nicaea.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by nestorius.nicaea.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iALJDhOQ031419 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:13:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from drc@nicaea.org) X-Authentication-Warning: nestorius.nicaea.org: drc set sender to drc@nicaea.org using -f From: Dave Cantrell To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:13:42 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411211313.43024.drc@nicaea.org> Subject: Support for ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 19:13:43 -0000 Despite having searched the various mail lists, and googled my eyes bleary, I still have not found what I take to be the definitive answer to the following question: Does FreeBSD (5-Stable specifically) and/or xorg support the 128MB ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 card yet? If not, are there plans to do so and is there any sort of time line for this? drc Dave Cantrell drc@nicaea.org Lincoln, Nebraska, USA From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 21 19:47:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D11716A4CE for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 19:47:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cheese.thcproductions.com (cheese.thcproductions.com [65.65.124.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FF043D2D for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 19:47:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tenebrae@thcproductions.com) Received: from localhost.thcproductions.com ([127.0.0.1]) by cheese.thcproductions.com with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id I7JO05-000G1W-5X for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:41:05 -0600 Message-ID: <41A0EF3F.1060904@thcproductions.com> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:40:47 -0600 From: tenebrae User-Agent: Mail Client (compatible; E-MAIL; Why are you reading this?) - Mail Client, Platform X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <200411211313.43024.drc@nicaea.org> In-Reply-To: <200411211313.43024.drc@nicaea.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scan-Signature: 013d45ac38e1f0e24ce6f47dbdfca921 X-Spam-Score: 1.1 Subject: Re: Support for ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tenebrae@thcproductions.com List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 19:47:05 -0000 Dave Cantrell wrote: >Despite having searched the various mail lists, and googled my eyes bleary, I >still have not found what I take to be the definitive answer to the following >question: > >Does FreeBSD (5-Stable specifically) and/or xorg support the 128MB ATI >Mobility Radeon 9700 card yet? > >If not, are there plans to do so and is there any sort of time line for this? > Yes, indeed it does. I'm dual-booting FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE and W*ndows on my Dell Inspiron XPS, and though I initially used an xorg.conf from a "penguinista" (ie. linux) XPS site, I found slightly better results from running xorgcfg. It set the "radeon" driver and defaulted to 1920x1200, which is the native resolution for my LCD, though only 2D graphics are currently supported. HTH. -W From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 21 23:02:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A8316A4CE for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:02:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE96C43D1D for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:02:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kikkin@telus.net) Received: from rightfoot ([207.6.35.25]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net SMTP <20041121230229.JTWE12137.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@rightfoot> for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:02:29 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01c4d01e$2a001020$a67ba8c0@rightfoot> From: "Geoff Mysynuk" To: Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 15:02:24 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: ARGH - aspire 2010 woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:02:30 -0000 I've got an acer aspire 2010 notebook... the thing totally rawks windows. but i hate windows I do love freebsd and I use it on my stand alone system and wish to = install it on my notebook. I know it has a few issues with certain = notebooks, but when I tried to install 5.3 it froze while loading the = kernel. it's an i686 architecture. I've got plenty of everything to run the system with, however... when it begins to detect the pci bus, it hangs. I've tried it both with and without acpi. (I'm kind of a noobie, but I'm not an idiot... ) does anyone have any sort of advice? it's much appreciated if you do! Thanks in advance. -Max From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 08:49:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C05816A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:49:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from msr38.hinet.net (msr38.hinet.net [168.95.4.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F19543D46 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:49:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plasma@ms9.hinet.net) Received: from me (218-166-26-214.dynamic.hinet.net [218.166.26.214]) by msr38.hinet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA16770 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:49:35 +0800 (CST) Received: (nullmailer pid 1407 invoked by uid 1001); Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:48:15 -0000 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:48:14 +0800 From: plasma To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:49:38 -0000 Hi, I upgraded my ThinkPad X23 from 4.10 to 5.3 last week, and everything works just fine. I know there is an est package for Pentium-M, but it doesn't work with P3-M. Clive said there is an ichist kernel module, and the module works on my X23. But there is not such thing like estctrl, so I spend some time to modify it into ichistctl. The source tarball is avaiable at http://svn.ntcu.net/~plasma/ichctrl.tar.gz: wget -O - http://svn.ntcu.net/~plasma/ichctrl.tar.gz | \ tar xzvf - cd ichctrl make Make sure you have loaded ichist.ko. Then you could run './ichctrl -v' to see how it works. Ichctrl should work wheter you have acpi or apm enabled. plasma From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 09:40:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4949416A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:40:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.tpgi.com.au (mail7.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FF343D1F for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:40:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adam.chen@tpg.com.au) Received: from tany (220-244-162-42-sa.tpgi.com.au [220.244.162.42]) by mail.tpgi.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAM9dwC4013747; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:40:08 +1100 Message-Id: <200411220940.iAM9dwC4013747@mail.tpgi.com.au> From: "LEI CHEN" To: "'Alejandro lanjoe9 Valenzuela'" , Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:09:59 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <13508512fa00.12fa00135085@prodigy.net.mx> Thread-Index: AcTP8hLwiIFj7f0mQTm9OVmkTbBliQAhNbiw X-TPG-Antivirus: Passed Subject: RE: Best HDD's for laptops? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:40:16 -0000 As long as I concern of using laptop, the best HDD should be Toshiba TravelStar. That one is the best among any others. Cheers, LEI -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alejandro lanjoe9 Valenzuela Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 4:18 AM To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Best HDD's for laptops? Importance: Low Hello, my laptop's HDD (Toshiba MK401GAS 40 GB) had a horrible mechanical failure a few days ago, after about 3 years of use. What HDD brands/models/manufacturers would you recommend? I need one that resists heavy use.. Thanks a lot in advance :) Alejandro _______________________________________________ freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 10:01:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A725E16A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:01:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1EC0343D45 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:01:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwalton@acm.org) Received: (qmail 99030 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2004 10:01:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.1.33?) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 22 Nov 2004 10:01:29 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 68.127.18.161 Message-ID: <41A1B8F6.1020508@acm.org> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 02:01:26 -0800 From: Dave Walton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, Kevin Oberman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 600E Audio problem (Solved!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dwalton@acm.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:01:30 -0000 Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > From: Dave Walton > > > > pcm0: port 0x220-0x233,0x388-0x38b,0x530-0x537 irq 9 > > drq 0,1 flags 0x10 on acpi0 > > device_attach: pcm0 attach returned 6 > > > > The obvious question here is... Why on earth is it saying it's on > > acpi0? Anyone got suggestions to make this work? > > It looks like you are running the 600E with ACPI. I have never been > able to get ACPI to work with my 600e and run it with APM. I am sure > that there are BIOS issues, but many BIOS problems have been worked > around in the latest code, so it probably works better by now. I have > not tried ACPI on the unit for about 2 years, so it may work better, > now, but this makes it look like it's not there quite yet. Actually, it's a 770Z, but they are very similar. Anyway, yes, ACPI is on (by default). I suppose you are saying that the obvious next step is to try it without ACPI. Obviously. [mutters to self and goes to try it without ACPI...] Whaddaya know... Now it sees pcm0 on isa0. Yay! Sound works! (Well, it works better than in 4.x anyway. It's still a little funny. Sounds in KDE sometimes come out right and sometimes come out as static. Go figure.) So I guess this answers the APM vs. ACPI question I've been avoiding diving into. ACPI breaks sound, so ACPI is out. The next problem is that APM isn't working, even though it worked in 4.x. My configuration: device.hints: hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" hint.apm.0.disabled="0" loader.conf: apm_load="YES" rc.conf: apm_enable="YES" apmd_enable="YES" 'apm -Z' turns off the screen and backlight, but seems to leave everything else running normally, which is only useful for very short times. 'apm -z' simply locks up the machine. In 4.x, I used 'zzz' (or 'apm -z') frequently, and it would trigger the BIOS hibernation routine, which would copy memory to drive and shut down to an almost-off mode that would last a week or more on a full battery, and pop right back up where it left off when the lid is opened. Any guesses how I can get APM to work again like it used to? Thanks, Dave From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 10:07:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDC016A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:07:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.cistron.nl (smtp2.cistron.nl [62.216.30.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074E143D5A for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:07:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@guldan.demon.nl) Received: from cust.13.38.adsl.cistron.nl ([62.216.13.38] helo=guldan.demon.nl) by smtp2.cistron.nl with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CWB68-0002XY-00; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:07:04 +0100 Received: from bombur.guldan.demon.nl ([192.168.201.3] helo=localhost) by guldan.demon.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1CWB65-000F1s-5Q; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:07:01 +0100 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:07:01 +0100 From: Robert Blacquiere To: plasma Message-ID: <20041122100701.GE33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Disclaimer: running FreeBSD X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:07:16 -0000 On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 04:48:14PM +0800, plasma wrote: > Hi, > > I upgraded my ThinkPad X23 from 4.10 to 5.3 last week, and > everything works just fine. > > I know there is an est package for Pentium-M, but it doesn't work with > P3-M. Clive said there is an ichist kernel module, and the module > works on my X23. But there is not such thing like estctrl, so I spend > some time to modify it into ichistctl. > > The source tarball is avaiable at > http://svn.ntcu.net/~plasma/ichctrl.tar.gz: > > wget -O - http://svn.ntcu.net/~plasma/ichctrl.tar.gz | \ > tar xzvf - > cd ichctrl > make Nice work... It seems to work quite good. It's decreasing the cpu clock when system is more or less idle. But i have some problems with the battery <-> AC switching. It seems it sees the ac connect state as ac-offline... sysctl hw.acpi.acline hw.acpi.acline: 1 And ichctrl ... Now operating on battery power; changing frequency to low speed And it does not switch back to ac power. > > Make sure you have loaded ichist.ko. Then you could run './ichctrl > -v' to see how it works. Ichctrl should work wheter you have acpi or > apm enabled. > > > plasma Robert -- Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what? OpenBSD: Hey guys you left some holes out there! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 10:27:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F87B16A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:27:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.apdip.net (zeus.apdip.net [202.187.94.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B5743D31 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:27:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khairil@apdip.net) Received: from [192.168.0.36] (unknown [202.187.94.4]) by mail.apdip.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974152A403B; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:28:33 +0800 (MYT) From: Khairil Yusof To: Dan Pelleg In-Reply-To: References: <20041120200450.88989.qmail@web51909.mail.yahoo.com> <1101016009.10377.44.camel@wolverine.cerebro.net.my> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: UNDP-APDIP International Open Source Network Message-Id: <1101119287.26940.392.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:28:07 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: eol1@yahoo.com cc: Arne Schwabe cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 on Thinkpad X40 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:27:37 -0000 On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 23:57, Dan Pelleg wrote: > No need for a USB floppy. Once you have the floppy image in a file > boot.img, place it in a new directory, cd to that directory, and then: > mkisofs -r -b boot.img -c boot.catalog -o ../bootcd.iso . > You can now burn bootcd.iso to a CD-R, and boot from it on your USB > CD-ROM. That worked using dos 6.22 image. I'll try to see if it works with freedos, so I can make an iso image for others to download. S3 suspend also works in both X and console, I only need to restart moused. I saw your message regarding rc.resume and rc.suspend. Have you got the solution for it? I couldn't find any documentation on how to get these executed for acpi. For now, I'm find with running `/etc/rc.d/moused restart` manually considering the state it was before IDE2 was disabled. :) Now on to project evil to get Intel 7100 wireless adapter to work. -- Khairil Yusof UNDP-APDIP International Open Source Network From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 10:31:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3068716A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:31:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from netserver2.cyonisp.net (69-3-40-56.sdsl.lbdsl.net [69.3.40.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C1243D48 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:31:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julesg@newebmail.com) Received: from [192.168.0.104] (pool-151-199-18-56.bos.east.verizon.net [151.199.18.56]) (authenticated (0 bits))iAL1t478027625; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 20:55:15 -0500 Message-ID: <41A1BFA6.9050908@newebmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 05:29:58 -0500 From: Jules Gilbert User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: heard on the grapevine... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:31:12 -0000 A friend of mine was recently contacted by DELL. They offered him a 45-day free trial of a dynamite laptop, based on 1920 pixels on a side, and AMD 64-bit internals, running at 2.2Ghz. A battery consisting of 12 cells, instead of the usual 8, which they claim will support four hours of use. Probably, it's a decent system. For free. For 45 days. Apparently, DELL has changed their marketing habits. I have a 32-bit Inspiron, model 1150, which doesn't play well with FreeBSD at all! I can't use the built-in winModem, and it has some other issues, too. My point: I expect that we need to contact DELL and get them to make things a little easier for the FreeBSD community -- because I found my Inspiron so difficult to support that I had to go back to a split disk, with some portion lost to XP. But if we were to help them along, I'll bet they would love to support us -- and sell even more laptops, too... --jg PS: Once upon a time, Ford gave me a car they were about to annouce to test-drive. For free. On the condition that afterward I answer a few questions. But this laptop trial is intended to sell their laptops. A good idea. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 10:33:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA4316A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:33:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailhub03.unibe.ch (mailhub03.unibe.ch [130.92.9.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB33443D46 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:33:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roth@speedy.unibe.ch) Received: from localhost (scanhub01-eth0.unibe.ch [130.92.254.65]) by mailhub03.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B25611D74; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:33:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailhub03.unibe.ch ([130.92.9.70]) by localhost (scanhub01 [130.92.254.65]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22202-14-2; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:33:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from asterix.unibe.ch (asterix.unibe.ch [130.92.64.4]) by mailhub03.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6394D11D38; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:33:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from speedy.unibe.ch (speedy [130.92.64.35]) by asterix.unibe.ch (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id iAMAXWd14441; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:33:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (from roth@localhost) by speedy.unibe.ch (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id iAMAXVYD006133; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:33:31 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:33:31 +0100 From: Tobias Roth To: Khairil Yusof Message-ID: <20041122103331.GA6100@speedy.unibe.ch> Mail-Followup-To: Khairil Yusof , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20041120200450.88989.qmail@web51909.mail.yahoo.com> <1101016009.10377.44.camel@wolverine.cerebro.net.my> <1101119287.26940.392.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1101119287.26940.392.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-message-flag: Warning! Using Outlook is insecure and promotes virus distribution. Please use a different email client. X-Virus-checked: by University of Berne cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 on Thinkpad X40 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:33:36 -0000 On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 06:28:07PM +0800, Khairil Yusof wrote: > > S3 suspend also works in both X and console, I only need to restart > moused. I saw your message regarding rc.resume and rc.suspend. Have you > got the solution for it? I couldn't find any documentation on how to get > these executed for acpi. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-July/004345.html cheers, t. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 11:16:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A42316A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:16:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sarajevo.pacific.net.sg (sarajevo.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DAF9D43D3F for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:16:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 17593 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2004 11:16:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell2.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.192) by sarajevo with SMTP; 22 Nov 2004 11:16:55 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.109] ([210.24.246.156]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP <20041122111654.QRYH12758.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.109]>; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:16:54 +0800 Message-ID: <41A1CAE0.4040300@pacific.net.sg> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:17:52 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LEI CHEN References: <200411220940.iAM9dwC4013747@mail.tpgi.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200411220940.iAM9dwC4013747@mail.tpgi.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: 'Alejandro lanjoe9 Valenzuela' cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best HDD's for laptops? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:16:59 -0000 Hi, LEI CHEN wrote: > As long as I concern of using laptop, the best HDD should be Toshiba > TravelStar. Travelstar is an IBM brand. I use Toshibas since 1997 without fault. I have had one fault with a TravelStar. > Hello, my laptop's HDD (Toshiba MK401GAS 40 GB) had a horrible mechanical > failure a few days ago, after about 3 years of use. It could have been just bad luck. > What HDD brands/models/manufacturers would you recommend? > I need one that resists heavy use.. IBM/Hitachi have meanwhile selected models for this purpose. I never have seen them in the wild. Erich From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 12:02:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C7B16A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:02:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gw.pelleg.org (gw.pelleg.org [205.201.13.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B95B43D49 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:02:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dpelleg@cs.cmu.edu) Received: from lank.here (lank.wburn [192.168.3.41]) by gw.pelleg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0584A5A53; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 07:02:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by lank.here (Postfix, from userid 7675) id F1FD44325; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 07:02:24 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16801.54608.169247.896234@lank.wburn> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 07:02:24 -0500 To: Khairil Yusof In-Reply-To: <1101119287.26940.392.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20041120200450.88989.qmail@web51909.mail.yahoo.com> <1101016009.10377.44.camel@wolverine.cerebro.net.my> <1101119287.26940.392.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" XEmacs Lucid From: Dan Pelleg cc: eol1@yahoo.com cc: Arne Schwabe cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 on Thinkpad X40 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dan Pelleg List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:02:29 -0000 Khairil Yusof writes: > On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 23:57, Dan Pelleg wrote: > > > No need for a USB floppy. Once you have the floppy image in a file > > boot.img, place it in a new directory, cd to that directory, and then: > > mkisofs -r -b boot.img -c boot.catalog -o ../bootcd.iso . > > You can now burn bootcd.iso to a CD-R, and boot from it on your USB > > CD-ROM. > > That worked using dos 6.22 image. I'll try to see if it works with > freedos, so I can make an iso image for others to download. > > S3 suspend also works in both X and console, I only need to restart > moused. I saw your message regarding rc.resume and rc.suspend. Have you > got the solution for it? I couldn't find any documentation on how to get > these executed for acpi. > No. --Dan Pelleg From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 12:12:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8971B16A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:12:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from seed.net.tw (sn12.seed.net.tw [139.175.54.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D1343D1D for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:12:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plasma@ms9.hinet.net) Received: from [59.104.132.166] (port=56788 helo=me) by seed.net.tw with smtp (Seednet 4.23:1) id 1CWD3H-0007Gk-0m; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:12:15 +0800 Received: (nullmailer pid 1102 invoked by uid 1001); Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:12:10 -0000 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:12:10 +0800 From: plasma To: Robert Blacquiere Message-ID: <20041122121210.GA857@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122100701.GE33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041122100701.GE33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:12:17 -0000 On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 11:07:01AM +0100, Robert Blacquiere wrote: > > It seems to work quite good. It's decreasing the cpu clock when system is > more or less idle. But i have some problems with the battery <-> AC switching. Thank you for testing ichctrl. The bug is fixed, and please refetch it. The md5 of new ichctrl.tar.gz is 8ef0793d9be1909198fa3106834e5db6. plasma From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 12:28:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E81316A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:28:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.cistron.nl (smtp1.cistron.nl [62.216.30.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F044B43D6B for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:28:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@guldan.demon.nl) Received: from cust.13.38.adsl.cistron.nl ([62.216.13.38] helo=guldan.demon.nl) by smtp1.cistron.nl with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CWDJ0-0003Ye-00; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:28:30 +0100 Received: from bombur.guldan.demon.nl ([192.168.201.3] helo=localhost) by guldan.demon.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1CWDIx-000F82-I8; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:28:27 +0100 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:28:27 +0100 From: Robert Blacquiere To: plasma Message-ID: <20041122122827.GH33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122100701.GE33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122121210.GA857@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041122121210.GA857@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Disclaimer: running FreeBSD X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:28:38 -0000 On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 08:12:10PM +0800, plasma wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 11:07:01AM +0100, Robert Blacquiere wrote: > > > > It seems to work quite good. It's decreasing the cpu clock when system is > > more or less idle. But i have some problems with the battery <-> AC switching. > > Thank you for testing ichctrl. The bug is fixed, and please refetch > it. The md5 of new ichctrl.tar.gz is 8ef0793d9be1909198fa3106834e5db6. It seems better now but it still does not see always the battery power mode.. If I run: ./ichctrl -v -a max -b min it reports only: Now operating on AC power; changing frequency to high speed and when i pull the ac it does not respons. and when i connect ac back online it does not report any thing. When i run with these options: ./ichctrl -v -b min it response only the following on ac inserts... Idle time > 75%, decreasing clock speed from high speed to low speed Idle time > 75%, decreasing clock speed from high speed to low speed Idle time > 75%, decreasing clock speed from high speed to low speed Hope this will give you more input what is going on. Robert -- Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what? OpenBSD: Hey guys you left some holes out there! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 14:44:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8699116A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:44:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from seed.net.tw (sn14.seed.net.tw [139.175.54.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389E643D1D for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:44:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plasma@ms9.hinet.net) Received: from [59.105.9.100] (port=52819 helo=me) by seed.net.tw with smtp (Seednet 4.23:1) id 1CWFQL-000FJW-6V; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:44:13 +0800 Received: (nullmailer pid 1162 invoked by uid 1001); Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:44:08 -0000 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:44:07 +0800 From: plasma To: Robert Blacquiere Message-ID: <20041122144407.GA821@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122100701.GE33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122121210.GA857@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122122827.GH33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041122122827.GH33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:44:15 -0000 On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 01:28:27PM +0100, Robert Blacquiere wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 08:12:10PM +0800, plasma wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 11:07:01AM +0100, Robert Blacquiere wrote: > > > > > > It seems to work quite good. It's decreasing the cpu clock when system is > > > more or less idle. But i have some problems with the battery <-> AC switching. > > > > Thank you for testing ichctrl. The bug is fixed, and please refetch > > it. The md5 of new ichctrl.tar.gz is 8ef0793d9be1909198fa3106834e5db6. > > It seems better now but it still does not see always the battery power mode.. > If I run: > > ./ichctrl -v -a max -b min > > it reports only: > > Now operating on AC power; changing frequency to high speed > > and when i pull the ac it does not respons. > and when i connect ac back online it does not report any thing. This is strange. I just tested on acpi and apm configurations, and both of them works just fine (on ACPI): root@plasmanb:~# ~/tmp/fbsd/ichctrl/ichctrl -v -a max -b min Now operating on AC power; changing frequency to high speed ** pull ac ** Now operating on battery power; changing frequency to low speed ** plug ac ** Now operating on AC power; changing frequency to high speed > When i run with these options: > > ./ichctrl -v -b min > > it response only the following on ac inserts... > > Idle time > 75%, decreasing clock speed from high speed to low speed > Idle time > 75%, decreasing clock speed from high speed to low speed > Idle time > 75%, decreasing clock speed from high speed to low speed > > Hope this will give you more input what is going on. This is what happened on my X23: root@plasmanb:~# ~/tmp/fbsd/ichctrl/ichctrl -v -b min ** ac is on ** Idle time > 75%, decreasing clock speed from high speed to low speed ** 'openssl speed sha1' start** Idle time < 50%, increasing clock speed from low speed to high speed ** 'openssl speed sha1' stop** Idle time > 75%, decreasing clock speed from high speed to low speed ** pull ac. no response. ** ** 'openssl speed sha1' start. no response. ** ** 'openssl speed sha1' stop. no response. ** ** plug ac. no response. ** Idle time < 50%, increasing clock speed from low speed to high speed ** 'openssl speed sha1' start** ** while running openssl, pull ac ** Now operating on battery power; changing frequency to low speed Looks fine to me. It seemds to me that ichctrl is not able to see your battery when ac is pulled. Please provide me more information: * Output of 'uname -a'. * You're using ACPI or APM? * 'sysctl -a | grep -i acline' when AC is plugged and pulled. * 'apm | grep AC' when AC is plugged and pulled. I need sleep now. I'll check your feedback when I wake up. Many thanks in advance. :) plasma From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 17:17:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C6B16A4D0 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:17:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-bedford-dr.mitre.org (smtpproxy2.mitre.org [192.160.51.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E5543D1F for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:17:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jandrese@mitre.org) Received: from smtp-bedford-dr.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-bedford-dr.mitre.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id iAMHHgI02098 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:17:42 -0500 Received: from smtp-bedford-dr.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-bedford-dr.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE154F8E1 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:17:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAILHUB2 (mailhub2.mitre.org [129.83.221.18]) iAMHHfW02037; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:17:41 -0500 Received: from mm112324-2k.mitre.org (128.29.24.63) by mailhub2.mitre.org with SMTP id 6141778; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:17:40 -0500 Message-ID: <41A21F34.3090601@mitre.org> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:17:40 -0500 From: Jason Andresen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jules Gilbert References: <41A1BFA6.9050908@newebmail.com> In-Reply-To: <41A1BFA6.9050908@newebmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: heard on the grapevine... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:17:43 -0000 Jules Gilbert wrote: > A friend of mine was recently contacted by DELL. > > They offered him a 45-day free trial of a dynamite laptop, based on > 1920 pixels on a side, and AMD 64-bit internals, running at 2.2Ghz. A > battery consisting of 12 cells, instead of the usual 8, which they > claim will support four hours of use. > Probably, it's a decent system. Is Dell finally going to offer an AMD chip in a system? This would be a first for them you know. Every other Dell on the market has Intel chips. > For free. For 45 days. Sounds like a beta program to me. I woudln't read too much into it. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 18:24:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1DA16A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:24:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B1443D49 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:24:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no (186.80-202-72.nextgentel.com [80.202.72.186]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A84C634B for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:24:51 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:10:46 +0100 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041122191046.3274aaf3.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-Reply-To: <41A1BFA6.9050908@newebmail.com> References: <41A1BFA6.9050908@newebmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0beta2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq;m"_0v;~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: heard on the grapevine... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:24:53 -0000 On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 05:29:58 -0500 Jules Gilbert wrote: > For free. For 45 days. > > Apparently, DELL has changed their marketing habits. Alas, there is no such offer on my "local" Dell website (www.dell.no). :-/ But, I will happily test any laptop if I can do so for free, for 45 days. Just in case any vendors are reading this list. :-) Note, I will try to install FreeBSD on any such laptop, and I will write about the results, good or bad. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 18:44:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7B516A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:44:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.cistron.nl (smtp1.cistron.nl [62.216.30.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B5143D39 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:44:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@guldan.demon.nl) Received: from cust.13.38.adsl.cistron.nl ([62.216.13.38] helo=guldan.demon.nl) by smtp1.cistron.nl with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CWJAf-0001r7-00; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:44:17 +0100 Received: from bombur.guldan.demon.nl ([192.168.201.3] helo=localhost) by guldan.demon.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1CWJAc-000FNo-Cc; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:44:14 +0100 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:44:14 +0100 From: Robert Blacquiere To: plasma Message-ID: <20041122184414.GL33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122100701.GE33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122121210.GA857@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122122827.GH33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122144407.GA821@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041122144407.GA821@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Disclaimer: running FreeBSD X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:44:22 -0000 On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 10:44:07PM +0800, plasma wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 01:28:27PM +0100, Robert Blacquiere wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 08:12:10PM +0800, plasma wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 11:07:01AM +0100, Robert Blacquiere wrote: > > > > > > > > It seems to work quite good. It's decreasing the cpu clock when system is > > > > more or less idle. But i have some problems with the battery <-> AC switching. > > > > > > Thank you for testing ichctrl. The bug is fixed, and please refetch > > > it. The md5 of new ichctrl.tar.gz is 8ef0793d9be1909198fa3106834e5db6. > > > > It seems better now but it still does not see always the battery power mode.. > > If I run: > > > > ./ichctrl -v -a max -b min > > > > it reports only: > > > > Now operating on AC power; changing frequency to high speed > > > > and when i pull the ac it does not respons. > > and when i connect ac back online it does not report any thing. > > This is strange. I just tested on acpi and apm configurations, and > both of them works just fine (on ACPI): > > root@plasmanb:~# ~/tmp/fbsd/ichctrl/ichctrl -v -a max -b min > Now operating on AC power; changing frequency to high speed > ** pull ac ** > Now operating on battery power; changing frequency to low speed > ** plug ac ** > Now operating on AC power; changing frequency to high speed > > > When i run with these options: > > > > ./ichctrl -v -b min > > > > it response only the following on ac inserts... > > > > Idle time > 75%, decreasing clock speed from high speed to low speed > > Idle time > 75%, decreasing clock speed from high speed to low speed > > Idle time > 75%, decreasing clock speed from high speed to low speed > > > > Hope this will give you more input what is going on. > > This is what happened on my X23: > > root@plasmanb:~# ~/tmp/fbsd/ichctrl/ichctrl -v -b min > ** ac is on ** > Idle time > 75%, decreasing clock speed from high speed to low speed > ** 'openssl speed sha1' start** > Idle time < 50%, increasing clock speed from low speed to high speed > ** 'openssl speed sha1' stop** > Idle time > 75%, decreasing clock speed from high speed to low speed > ** pull ac. no response. ** > ** 'openssl speed sha1' start. no response. ** > ** 'openssl speed sha1' stop. no response. ** > ** plug ac. no response. ** > Idle time < 50%, increasing clock speed from low speed to high speed > ** 'openssl speed sha1' start** > ** while running openssl, pull ac ** > Now operating on battery power; changing frequency to low speed > > Looks fine to me. > > It seemds to me that ichctrl is not able to see your battery when ac > is pulled. Please provide me more information: > > * Output of 'uname -a'. FreeBSD bifur.guldan.demon.nl 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #1: Wed Nov 10 10:40:52 CET 2004 \ robert@bifur.guldan.demon.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/bifur i386 > * You're using ACPI or APM? I'me using ACPI > * 'sysctl -a | grep -i acline' when AC is plugged and pulled. robert@bifur$ sysctl hw.acpi.acline hw.acpi.acline: 1 pulling ac out... robert@bifur$ sysctl hw.acpi.acline hw.acpi.acline: 0 > * 'apm | grep AC' when AC is plugged and pulled. robert@bifur$ apm | grep AC AC Line status: on-line pulling out ac robert@bifur$ apm | grep AC AC Line status: off-line > > I need sleep now. I'll check your feedback when I wake up. Many > thanks in advance. :) It seems i get also a lot of: rtc: 100 > kern.hz: Timing will be inaccurate, please increase hz. when using the ichctrl ... Probably due to the fact the clock freq is changed... If you need more info i'me willing to help Robert -- Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what? OpenBSD: Hey guys you left some holes out there! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 22 22:03:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4659416A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:03:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB2043D49 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:03:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a36so248730rnf for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:03:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=kdsYs4sSZm+xDhFN6hrJlaDluSfXA1UbAWYRdEY9p6XGEKVjeUZ4mNhN67C+ctLybd45Aog7WgIXipO+zCSsMWPNUyuDl62nlUiL26nZlC++i8dX9xWjPkAVff78BJciCV81VIAoZ8vIwswo9gcaHZrh4U1ZXhamBz/DQEq0DZM= Received: by 10.38.77.37 with SMTP id z37mr1044361rna; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.15.10 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:03:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:03:19 -0600 From: Eric Kjeldergaard To: plasma In-Reply-To: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Kjeldergaard List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:03:21 -0000 > I know there is an est package for Pentium-M, but it doesn't work with > P3-M. Clive said there is an ichist kernel module, and the module > works on my X23. But there is not such thing like estctrl, so I spend > some time to modify it into ichistctl. > > The source tarball is avaiable at > http://svn.ntcu.net/~plasma/ichctrl.tar.gz: > > wget -O - http://svn.ntcu.net/~plasma/ichctrl.tar.gz | \ > tar xzvf - > cd ichctrl > make > > Make sure you have loaded ichist.ko. Then you could run './ichctrl > -v' to see how it works. Ichctrl should work wheter you have acpi or > apm enabled. I'm using acpi and have ichist loaded. This program seems to be very successful in setting the sysctl variable that ichist uses. This is a great step towards an add-on application for speedstepping, a good temporary solution before (as I've heard it) moving this functionality into the kernel. Hopefully ichist gets worked on soon so's it begins to save a bit of the ol' battery life. It would be nice to finally get more than the 3 - 4 hours that I've been getting in fBSD. -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 08:27:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0326A16A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:27:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from msr70.hinet.net (msr70.hinet.net [168.95.4.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C11643D2F for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:27:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plasma@ms9.hinet.net) Received: from me (218-166-26-214.dynamic.hinet.net [218.166.26.214]) by msr70.hinet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA28961; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:27:24 +0800 (CST) Received: (nullmailer pid 71694 invoked by uid 1001); Tue, 23 Nov 2004 06:40:45 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:40:44 +0800 From: plasma To: Eric Kjeldergaard Message-ID: <20041123064044.GA20758@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:27:29 -0000 On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 04:03:19PM -0600, Eric Kjeldergaard wrote: > I'm using acpi and have ichist loaded. This program seems to be very > successful in setting the sysctl variable that ichist uses. This is a > great step towards an add-on application for speedstepping, a good > temporary solution before (as I've heard it) moving this functionality > into the kernel. Hopefully ichist gets worked on soon so's it begins I'm wondering if there's any plan to incorporate ichist into kernel? Seems there's not many discussions since ichist is announced. > to save a bit of the ol' battery life. It would be nice to finally > get more than the 3 - 4 hours that I've been getting in fBSD. I haven't test ichctrl to see if it will give more use time when AC is not used. But I feel it cooler when I touch my X23, so I believe ichist may give me more time when AC is not avaiable. :) plasma From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 08:44:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9100116A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:44:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from seed.net.tw (sn14.seed.net.tw [139.175.54.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F8843D3F for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:44:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plasma@ms9.hinet.net) Received: from [221.169.25.179] (port=48212 helo=mis.ezplay.tv) by seed.net.tw with esmtp (Seednet 4.23:1) id 1CWWHm-0000lv-AH for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:44:30 +0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mis.ezplay.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF2E4BD119D for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:44:29 +0800 (CST) Received: from home.ezplay.tv (home.ezplay.tv [61.222.213.139]) by mis.ezplay.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217EE4BD11EA for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:43:51 +0800 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by home.ezplay.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720D41A88 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:43:50 +0800 (CST) Received: from me (mis.ezplay.tv [61.222.213.138]) by home.ezplay.tv (Postfix) with SMTP id E15C21C19C for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:42:17 +0800 (CST) Received: (nullmailer pid 71810 invoked by uid 1001); Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:03:36 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:03:36 +0800 From: plasma To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041123070336.GC20758@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020222 with Pahud hack X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 Subject: Ichctrl 0.1 (was: [speedstep] Testers wanted) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:44:32 -0000 Hi, I'm happy to announce ichctrl 0.1 is released. It's available at http://svn.ntcu.net/~plasma/ichctrl-0.1.tar.gz. The size is 2532, and the md5 8ba185c774af55235277d2cf8a1cbaba. To build it is simple: wget -O - http://svn.ntcu.net/~plasma/ichctrl-0.1.tar.gz | \ tar xzvf - cd ichctrl make Make sure you have loaded ichist.ko. Then you could run './ichctrl -v' to see how it works. Ichctrl should work whether you have acpi or apm enabled. plasma From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 08:44:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9877316A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:44:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from seed.net.tw (sn13.seed.net.tw [139.175.54.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4387743D3F for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:44:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plasma@ms9.hinet.net) Received: from [221.169.25.179] (port=48215 helo=mis.ezplay.tv) by seed.net.tw with esmtp (Seednet 4.23:1) id 1CWWHm-0006KW-TB; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:44:32 +0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mis.ezplay.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C774BD1194; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:44:29 +0800 (CST) Received: from home.ezplay.tv (home.ezplay.tv [61.222.213.139]) by mis.ezplay.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A94B4BD11E6; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:43:51 +0800 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by home.ezplay.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3DF1AC3; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:43:50 +0800 (CST) Received: from me (mis.ezplay.tv [61.222.213.138]) by home.ezplay.tv (Postfix) with SMTP id 916C01C19B; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:42:17 +0800 (CST) Received: (nullmailer pid 71779 invoked by uid 1001); Tue, 23 Nov 2004 06:59:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:59:35 +0800 From: plasma To: Robert Blacquiere Message-ID: <20041123065935.GB20758@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122100701.GE33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122121210.GA857@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122122827.GH33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122144407.GA821@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122184414.GL33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041122184414.GL33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020222 with Pahud hack X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:44:34 -0000 On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 07:44:14PM +0100, Robert Blacquiere wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 10:44:07PM +0800, plasma wrote: > > It seemds to me that ichctrl is not able to see your battery when ac > > is pulled. Please provide me more information: > > > > * Output of 'uname -a'. > > FreeBSD bifur.guldan.demon.nl 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #1: Wed Nov 10 10:40:52 CET 2004 \ > robert@bifur.guldan.demon.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/bifur i386 > > > * You're using ACPI or APM? > > I'me using ACPI > > > * 'sysctl -a | grep -i acline' when AC is plugged and pulled. > robert@bifur$ sysctl hw.acpi.acline > hw.acpi.acline: 1 > > pulling ac out... > robert@bifur$ sysctl hw.acpi.acline > hw.acpi.acline: 0 > > > > * 'apm | grep AC' when AC is plugged and pulled. > > robert@bifur$ apm | grep AC > AC Line status: on-line > > pulling out ac > robert@bifur$ apm | grep AC > AC Line status: off-line This is strange. I copy-n-paste the code that checks AC line status from apm, so ichctrl should do if apm works. Estctrl uses hw.acpi.acline to check AC line status. But I notice ichist doesn't rely on neither ACPI nor APM, so I decide to check AC line through /dev/apm since it's available in both configurations. > It seems i get also a lot of: > rtc: 100 > kern.hz: Timing will be inaccurate, please increase hz. > > when using the ichctrl ... > > Probably due to the fact the clock freq is changed... Are you using vmware? I think rtc module is needed to run vmware. It barks if HZ is not high enough. Estctrl checks kern.cp_time twice a second. Since ichctrl is derived from estctrl, it does so too. I'm not sure if HZ has anything to do with it here. In my kernel config, I set HZ to 1500. This is because I used vmware before, and rtc barked all the time. :p ichctrl 0.1 is released. It's at http://svn.ntcu.net/~plasma/ichctrl-0.1.tar.gz. The length is 2532, and md5 8ba185c774af55235277d2cf8a1cbaba. Maybe you wanna give it try? > If you need more info i'me willing to help Sorry, your problem really beats me. I have no clue what's going on. Maybe I should write a version which uses hw.acpi.acline to test AC line status for you. plasma From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 09:29:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC2916A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:29:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from poup.poupinou.org (poup.poupinou.org [195.101.94.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F9B43D5C for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:29:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ducrot@poupinou.org) Received: from ducrot by poup.poupinou.org with local (Exim) id 1CWWyp-000194-00; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:28:59 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:28:59 +0100 To: plasma Message-ID: <20041123092859.GA4353@poupinou.org> References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041123064044.GA20758@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041123064044.GA20758@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i From: Bruno Ducrot cc: Eric Kjeldergaard cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:29:07 -0000 On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 02:40:44PM +0800, plasma wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 04:03:19PM -0600, Eric Kjeldergaard wrote: > > I'm using acpi and have ichist loaded. This program seems to be very > > successful in setting the sysctl variable that ichist uses. This is a > > great step towards an add-on application for speedstepping, a good > > temporary solution before (as I've heard it) moving this functionality > > into the kernel. Hopefully ichist gets worked on soon so's it begins > > I'm wondering if there's any plan to incorporate ichist into kernel? > Seems there's not many discussions since ichist is announced. > It will be submitted. I'm waiting Nate's cpufreq framework for this actually. -- Bruno Ducrot -- Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? -- Don't know. Don't care. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 09:34:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D0216A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:34:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from poup.poupinou.org (poup.poupinou.org [195.101.94.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455F043D41 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:34:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ducrot@poupinou.org) Received: from ducrot by poup.poupinou.org with local (Exim) id 1CWX40-00019q-00; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:34:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:34:20 +0100 To: plasma Message-ID: <20041123093420.GB4353@poupinou.org> References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122100701.GE33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122121210.GA857@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122122827.GH33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122144407.GA821@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122184414.GL33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041123065935.GB20758@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041123065935.GB20758@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i From: Bruno Ducrot cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:34:30 -0000 On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 02:59:35PM +0800, plasma wrote: > > > If you need more info i'me willing to help > > Sorry, your problem really beats me. I have no clue what's going on. > > Maybe I should write a version which uses hw.acpi.acline to test AC > line status for you. I can add an hook if that's can help. Cheers, -- Bruno Ducrot -- Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? -- Don't know. Don't care. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 10:08:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C990D16A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:08:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from seed.net.tw (sn16.seed.net.tw [139.175.54.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A9943D4C for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:08:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plasma@ms9.hinet.net) Received: from [221.169.25.179] (port=48480 helo=mis.ezplay.tv) by seed.net.tw with esmtp (Seednet 4.23:1) id 1CWXbG-000Coc-H0; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:08:42 +0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mis.ezplay.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB1F4BD8EA1; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:08:42 +0800 (CST) Received: from home.ezplay.tv (home.ezplay.tv [61.222.213.139]) by mis.ezplay.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553E04BD8E9C; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:08:41 +0800 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by home.ezplay.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF1B1C10C; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:08:40 +0800 (CST) Received: from me (mis.ezplay.tv [61.222.213.138]) by home.ezplay.tv (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C8DE1A72; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:08:38 +0800 (CST) Received: (nullmailer pid 73446 invoked by uid 1001); Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:08:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:08:34 +0800 From: plasma To: Bruno Ducrot Message-ID: <20041123100834.GA72233@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122100701.GE33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122121210.GA857@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122122827.GH33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122144407.GA821@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122184414.GL33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041123065935.GB20758@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041123093420.GB4353@poupinou.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041123093420.GB4353@poupinou.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020222 with Pahud hack X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0000 On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 10:34:20AM +0100, Bruno Ducrot wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 02:59:35PM +0800, plasma wrote: > > > > > If you need more info i'me willing to help > > > > Sorry, your problem really beats me. I have no clue what's going on. > > > > Maybe I should write a version which uses hw.acpi.acline to test AC > > line status for you. > I can add an hook if that's can help. Sorry, but I'm not sure I understand you. I'm not good at C and system programming. plasma From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 10:19:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0FF16A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:19:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FADE43D1D for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:19:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from incmc@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 28684 invoked by uid 65534); 23 Nov 2004 10:19:53 -0000 Received: from p5089F3AD.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO ms.homeip.net) (80.137.243.173) by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 23 Nov 2004 11:19:53 +0100 X-Authenticated: #15946415 Received: from [10.0.0.1] (helo=[10.0.0.13]) by ms.homeip.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) id 1CWXnp-000OmU-Oz for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:21:41 +0100 Message-ID: <41A30EC7.8010705@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:19:51 +0100 From: Jochen Gensch User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041113) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041123064044.GA20758@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041123092859.GA4353@poupinou.org> In-Reply-To: <20041123092859.GA4353@poupinou.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:19:55 -0000 Bruno Ducrot wrote: > It will be submitted. I'm waiting Nate's cpufreq framework for > this actually. Another question concering ichist.ko. It seem not that efficient yet, compared to the windows speedstep utility. I have run it from the day you posted it here. Even if speedstep is active the fan sometimes goes on, but no such effect under windwos. Mmh... Jochen From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 10:27:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A056116A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:27:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from poup.poupinou.org (poup.poupinou.org [195.101.94.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA0943D49 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:27:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ducrot@poupinou.org) Received: from ducrot by poup.poupinou.org with local (Exim) id 1CWXtA-0001DR-00; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:27:12 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:27:12 +0100 To: plasma Message-ID: <20041123102712.GD4353@poupinou.org> References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122100701.GE33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122121210.GA857@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122122827.GH33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122144407.GA821@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122184414.GL33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041123065935.GB20758@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041123093420.GB4353@poupinou.org> <20041123100834.GA72233@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041123100834.GA72233@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i From: Bruno Ducrot cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:27:16 -0000 On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 06:08:34PM +0800, plasma wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 10:34:20AM +0100, Bruno Ducrot wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 02:59:35PM +0800, plasma wrote: > > > > > > > If you need more info i'me willing to help > > > > > > Sorry, your problem really beats me. I have no clue what's going on. > > > > > > Maybe I should write a version which uses hw.acpi.acline to test AC > > > line status for you. > > I can add an hook if that's can help. > > Sorry, but I'm not sure I understand you. I'm not good at C and > system programming. There are some API in kernel in order to detect power profile changes (performance vs economy). When Nate will polish his cpufreq, this will be done in a generic way. But in the meantime, it may be helpfull to implement that in ichist so that we don't have to care about AC changes via acpi or apm. Cheers, -- Bruno Ducrot -- Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? -- Don't know. Don't care. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 10:31:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173D116A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:31:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0908F43D31 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:31:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from incmc@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 27082 invoked by uid 65534); 23 Nov 2004 10:31:36 -0000 Received: from p5089F3AD.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO ms.homeip.net) (80.137.243.173) by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 23 Nov 2004 11:31:36 +0100 X-Authenticated: #15946415 Received: from [10.0.0.1] (helo=[10.0.0.13]) by ms.homeip.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) id 1CWXz5-000Orv-JT for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:33:19 +0100 Message-ID: <41A31181.60405@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:31:29 +0100 From: Jochen Gensch User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041113) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041123064044.GA20758@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041123092859.GA4353@poupinou.org> <41A30BF8.3050806@gmx.de> <20041123102341.GC4353@poupinou.org> In-Reply-To: <20041123102341.GC4353@poupinou.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:31:39 -0000 Bruno Ducrot wrote: > Could you please post > sysctl hw.acpi > especially hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest and hw.acpi.cpu.cx_supported Sure, here we go: hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S3 S4 S5 hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5 hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S3 hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: NONE hw.acpi.standby_state: S1 hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3 hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 1 hw.acpi.s4bios: 0 hw.acpi.verbose: 0 hw.acpi.reset_video: 0 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_supported: C1/0 C2/84 C3/120 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C3 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_usage: 0.00% 100.00% 0.00% hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 63.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 91.5C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 97.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 hw.acpi.video.lcd0.active: 1 hw.acpi.video.crt0.active: 0 hw.acpi.video.tv0.active: 0 hw.acpi.video.out0.active: 0 hw.acpi.battery.life: 99 hw.acpi.battery.time: -1 hw.acpi.battery.state: 0 hw.acpi.battery.units: 1 hw.acpi.battery.info_expire: 5 hw.acpi.acline: 1 Jochen From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 11:45:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6066016A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:45:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.tpgi.com.au (mail5.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6C943D31 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:45:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adam.chen@tpg.com.au) Received: from tany (220-244-162-42-sa.tpgi.com.au [220.244.162.42]) by mail.tpgi.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iANBj7El019015; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:45:10 +1100 Message-Id: <200411231145.iANBj7El019015@mail.tpgi.com.au> From: "LEI CHEN" To: "'Erich Dollansky'" Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:15:04 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <41A1CAE0.4040300@pacific.net.sg> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Thread-index: AcTQhMc6Caw8jGwqSVutyPfOS7URWAAzBv4g X-TPG-Antivirus: Passed cc: 'Alejandro lanjoe9 Valenzuela' cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Best HDD's for laptops? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:45:14 -0000 TravelStar is a Hitachi's product, and because of it's the most reliable one, so IBM uses it as Thinkpad's HHD for years. For example: a 5400 80Gb IDE 2.5" Travelstar has 8Mb of cache. For your reference: http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/hgst/?epi_menuItemID=0f34be57a7adb6fd2 5ad4e8060e4f0a0&epi_menuID=f3422d6ea3268f8d5f5a530560e4f0a0&epi_baseMenuID=2 2f0deefa8f3967dafa0466460e4f0a0 Cheers, LEI -----Original Message----- From: Erich Dollansky [mailto:oceanare@pacific.net.sg] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:48 PM To: LEI CHEN Cc: 'Alejandro lanjoe9 Valenzuela'; freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best HDD's for laptops? Hi, LEI CHEN wrote: > As long as I concern of using laptop, the best HDD should be Toshiba > TravelStar. Travelstar is an IBM brand. I use Toshibas since 1997 without fault. I have had one fault with a TravelStar. > Hello, my laptop's HDD (Toshiba MK401GAS 40 GB) had a horrible mechanical > failure a few days ago, after about 3 years of use. It could have been just bad luck. > What HDD brands/models/manufacturers would you recommend? > I need one that resists heavy use.. IBM/Hitachi have meanwhile selected models for this purpose. I never have seen them in the wild. Erich From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 12:16:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136C516A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:16:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from seed.net.tw (sn16.seed.net.tw [139.175.54.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA5143D54 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:16:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plasma@ms9.hinet.net) Received: from [59.104.132.121] (port=58056 helo=me) by seed.net.tw with smtp (Seednet 4.23:1) id 1CWZbL-0005ih-Le; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 20:16:55 +0800 Received: (nullmailer pid 1049 invoked by uid 1001); Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:16:51 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 20:16:51 +0800 From: plasma To: Bruno Ducrot Message-ID: <20041123121651.GA871@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122100701.GE33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122121210.GA857@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122122827.GH33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122144407.GA821@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122184414.GL33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041123065935.GB20758@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041123093420.GB4353@poupinou.org> <20041123100834.GA72233@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041123102712.GD4353@poupinou.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041123102712.GD4353@poupinou.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:16:57 -0000 On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 11:27:12AM +0100, Bruno Ducrot wrote: > There are some API in kernel in order to detect power profile changes > (performance vs economy). When Nate will polish his cpufreq, this will > be done in a generic way. But in the meantime, it may be helpfull to > implement that in ichist so that we don't have to care about AC changes > via acpi or apm. This sounds good! Should I just poll a sysctl variable periodically, or ...? Anyway, I've wrote a test version, which is available at http://svn.ntcu.net/~plasma/ichctrl-ac_test.tar.gz. The size is 2697, and the md5 b5604f66f949a89afaca8cd4535c7ece. This version will try to use ACPI then APM to check AC line status. plasma From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 14:26:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D3316A4CE for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:26:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from poup.poupinou.org (poup.poupinou.org [195.101.94.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99C143D31 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:26:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ducrot@poupinou.org) Received: from ducrot by poup.poupinou.org with local (Exim) id 1CWbcY-0001ZS-00; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:26:18 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:26:18 +0100 To: Jochen Gensch Message-ID: <20041123142618.GA5749@poupinou.org> References: <20041122084814.GA1358@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041123064044.GA20758@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041123092859.GA4353@poupinou.org> <41A30BF8.3050806@gmx.de> <20041123102341.GC4353@poupinou.org> <41A31181.60405@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41A31181.60405@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i From: Bruno Ducrot cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:26:31 -0000 On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 11:31:29AM +0100, Jochen Gensch wrote: > > hw.acpi.cpu.cx_supported: C1/0 C2/84 C3/120 > hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C3 > hw.acpi.cpu.cx_usage: 0.00% 100.00% 0.00% There maybe a problem which prevent entering C3 in the idle loop, probably due to USB. Please see http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-acpi/2004-November/000835.html for more details. Cheers, -- Bruno Ducrot -- Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? -- Don't know. Don't care. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 20:54:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AED16A50F for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 20:54:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.HogRider.org (pool-70-16-85-200.alt.east.verizon.net [70.16.85.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7979843D55 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 20:54:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Michael.Welker@hogrider.org) Received: (qmail 25910 invoked by uid 204); 23 Nov 2004 15:54:50 -0500 Received: from Michael.Welker@hogrider.org by David.HogRider.org by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (clamscan: 0.75. Clear:. Processed in 0.77679 secs); 23 Nov 2004 20:54:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO roadking.hogrider.org) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Nov 2004 15:54:49 -0500 Received: from 192.168.2.45 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mwelker); by roadking.hogrider.org with HTTP; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:54:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <62487.192.168.2.45.1101243289.squirrel@192.168.2.45> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:54:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael J Welker Jr" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: NDISulator, 5.3-RELEASE-p1,BCM4306 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Michael.Welker@hogrider.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 20:54:58 -0000 First, I'm new to freebsd, please bear with me. I've got a working, up to date installation, with a few remaining hiccups. Compiled a custom kernel to support NDISulator, with latest cvsup. ifconfig returns ndis0, sysctl -a shows a long list of config options, so I assume ndis is working. My problem: I can't set the ssid. I've attempted using wicontrol & ifconfig, with no success. Attempts to set the inet via ifconfig returns 'File Exists' regardless of interface state (up/down). Additionally, I suspect I need to force the interface into 11b media/mode (this was an issue under ndiswrapper) Other problem: ums0 is never created. I'm running a usb wireless mouse (Targus PAWM10), and I understand that may be the source of my problem (wireless that is) -- Thank you, Mike perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);' From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 00:40:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F089E16A4CF for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:40:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBB443D54 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:40:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@chvlva.adelphia.net) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([69.160.70.47]) by mta13.adelphia.netESMTP <20041124004014.OJQF12490.mta13.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:40:14 -0500 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AF1D253BE; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:43:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:43:06 -0500 From: Parv To: Alejandro lanjoe9 Valenzuela Message-ID: <20041124004306.GA1887@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Alejandro lanjoe9 Valenzuela , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <13508512fa00.12fa00135085@prodigy.net.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <13508512fa00.12fa00135085@prodigy.net.mx> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best HDD's for laptops? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:40:19 -0000 in message <13508512fa00.12fa00135085@prodigy.net.mx>, wrote Alejandro lanjoe9 Valenzuela thusly... > > Hello, my laptop's HDD (Toshiba MK401GAS 40 GB) had a horrible > mechanical failure a few days ago, after about 3 years of use. Reminds me of death of IBM 10GB drive (that came w/ Dell Inspiron 5000k) ... just after three years of warranty period of my laptop. :( > What HDD brands/models/manufacturers would you recommend? I need > one that resists heavy use.. Currently i have been using Fujitsu MHT2060AH 60GB hard drive for about 8-9 months; cannot say how long it will last. It has been amazingly much quieter in comparison. My usage consist mainly of writing/searching/reading files -- fetching email, (de)compression of ~2.5GB mbox, various log files. - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 00:58:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85A116A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:58:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [209.53.238.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A648D43D46 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:58:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fmobile@ccstores.com) Received: from [209.53.238.86] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CWlUc-0000vP-1T; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:58:46 -0800 Message-ID: <41A3DCC5.6050309@ccstores.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:58:45 -0800 From: Jim Pazarena User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (86) Subject: internal ethernet not found Fujitsu Lifebook N5010 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:58:46 -0000 I have a brand new Fujitsu Lifebook N5010. FreeBSD 5.3 doesn't recognize the internal ethernet. Looking at historical posts, I see two others posted similar questions in the summer. With no positive response. The sad thing is that I tried SuSe, Knoppix and Mepis, and they all "auto-configure" the ethernet. I'm not flaming FBSD, heck I've got 8 FBSD servers and I wouldn't run _anything_ else, but setting up a laptop is a nightmare. Can anyone point me in a direction which will get my ethernet going? Yes, I can use a PCMCIA ethernet card (which I have), but it's a shame to not be able to use the built-in ethernet. TIA Jim Pazarena From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 08:24:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C085416A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:24:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED0743D31 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:24:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAO8OI4b040965 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:24:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAO8OHGX072133; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:24:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAO8OGpj072132; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:24:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:24:15 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Alejandro lanjoe9 Valenzuela , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041124082415.GA71963@thought.org> References: <13508512fa00.12fa00135085@prodigy.net.mx> <20041124004306.GA1887@moo.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041124004306.GA1887@moo.holy.cow> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Best HDD's for laptops? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:24:20 -0000 On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 07:43:06PM -0500, Parv wrote: [[ ... ]] > > > What HDD brands/models/manufacturers would you recommend? I need > > one that resists heavy use.. > > Currently i have been using Fujitsu MHT2060AH 60GB hard drive for > about 8-9 months; cannot say how long it will last. It has been > amazingly much quieter in comparison. > > My usage consist mainly of writing/searching/reading files -- > fetching email, (de)compression of ~2.5GB mbox, various log files. > > (I *promised* myself not to sink another penny into my 600E but in case I break my word: will just about any laptop drive replace my 12GB IBM drive, or do I have to stick to an IBM-"approved" drive?) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 10:20:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A67516A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:20:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane.co.uk [82.152.23.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B32343D4C for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:20:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAOAK7nd007846 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:20:08 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from localhost (jhary@localhost) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.1/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id iAOAK64v007843; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:20:07 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:20:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Vince Hoffman To: Jim Pazarena In-Reply-To: <41A3DCC5.6050309@ccstores.com> Message-ID: <20041124095146.M6276@unsane.co.uk> References: <41A3DCC5.6050309@ccstores.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: internal ethernet not found Fujitsu Lifebook N5010 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:20:17 -0000 On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Jim Pazarena wrote: > I have a brand new Fujitsu Lifebook N5010. FreeBSD 5.3 doesn't > recognize the internal ethernet. Looking at historical posts, > I see two others posted similar questions in the summer. With > no positive response. > > The sad thing is that I tried SuSe, Knoppix and Mepis, and they > all "auto-configure" the ethernet. I'm not flaming FBSD, heck I've got 8 FBSD > servers and I wouldn't run _anything_ else, but setting up a > laptop is a nightmare. > > Can anyone point me in a direction which will get my ethernet going? > Yes, I can use a PCMCIA ethernet card (which I have), but it's a > shame to not be able to use the built-in ethernet. > looking at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-July/004385.html it looks like you may be out of luck unless yours now shows up in pciconf -lv . The chipset should be supported by the rl driver, although thats only a should of course. > TIA > Jim Pazarena > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 10:57:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DAA16A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:57:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from poup.poupinou.org (poup.poupinou.org [195.101.94.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B2943D48 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:57:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ducrot@poupinou.org) Received: from ducrot by poup.poupinou.org with local (Exim) id 1CWuq5-0002rW-00; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:57:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:57:33 +0100 To: plasma Message-ID: <20041124105733.GB5749@poupinou.org> References: <20041122100701.GE33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122121210.GA857@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122122827.GH33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041122144407.GA821@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041122184414.GL33509@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <20041123065935.GB20758@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041123093420.GB4353@poupinou.org> <20041123100834.GA72233@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> <20041123102712.GD4353@poupinou.org> <20041123121651.GA871@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041123121651.GA871@plasmanb.plasma.idv.tw> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i From: Bruno Ducrot cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [speedstep] Testers wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:57:40 -0000 On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 08:16:51PM +0800, plasma wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 11:27:12AM +0100, Bruno Ducrot wrote: > > There are some API in kernel in order to detect power profile changes > > (performance vs economy). When Nate will polish his cpufreq, this will > > be done in a generic way. But in the meantime, it may be helpfull to > > implement that in ichist so that we don't have to care about AC changes > > via acpi or apm. > > This sounds good! Should I just poll a sysctl variable periodically, > or ...? > It's finishedi but not tested (I don't have the hardware to play with). http://www.poupinou.org/cpufreq/bsd/ the tar ball is ichist.ugly_for_use_with_ichctrl.tar.gz There will be 3 new sysctl under dev.ichist.0, namely: profile: read only ac_profile: read write batt_profile: read write The values are the same as for ichctrl, that is: 0: min 1: adaptative 2: max for example, if 'ac_profile' is 2, at each time the kernel detect a power profile change (most time AC plug-in), then 'profile' will be updated to 2, and the processor will be put at the max frequency. For ichctrl, the only required stuff maybe is to modify the frequency only if 'profile' is set to 1. So the main loop should be something like this: for(;;) { sleep (...); if (get_profile() != 1) continue; ... ... } PS1: my laptop (AMD athlon-xp) do not detect correctly the AC adapter with ACPI under FreeBSD 5.3, but I'm pretty sure it worked before. I don't know why exactly. Also be sure to boot with '-v' so that you will see something like: system power profile changed to 'economy' system power profile changed to 'performance' in dmesg. If that not the case, then something is wrong with ACPI or APM. PS2: as the cpufreq interface from Nate will handle this more cleanly and should be independant of hardware hopefully, I have put this one as a different tar ball. -- Bruno Ducrot -- Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? -- Don't know. Don't care. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 14:39:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CA616A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:39:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [69.17.104.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB16A43D4C for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:39:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (winter@sasami.jurai.net [69.17.104.113]) by sasami.jurai.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAOEcwv5080985; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:39:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:38:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-X-Sender: winter@sasami.jurai.net To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20041124082415.GA71963@thought.org> Message-ID: <20041124093701.S52400@sasami.jurai.net> References: <13508512fa00.12fa00135085@prodigy.net.mx> <20041124004306.GA1887@moo.holy.cow> <20041124082415.GA71963@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (sasami.jurai.net [69.17.104.113]); Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:39:01 -0500 (EST) cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best HDD's for laptops? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:39:02 -0000 On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Gary Kline wrote: > (I *promised* myself not to sink another penny into my 600E > but in case I break my word: will just about any laptop > drive replace my 12GB IBM drive, or do I have to stick to > an IBM-"approved" drive?) Any drive should work. -- 10 40 80 C0 00 FF FF FF FF C0 00 00 00 00 10 AA AA 03 00 00 00 08 00 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 14:41:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1490B16A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:41:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F2143D2D for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:41:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAOEfPoP013669 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 06:41:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@bunrab.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iAOEfPh9013668 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 06:41:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 06:41:25 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200411241441.iAOEfPh9013668@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041124082415.GA71963@thought.org> Subject: Re: Best HDD's for laptops? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:41:26 -0000 >Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:24:15 -0800 >From: Gary Kline > (I *promised* myself not to sink another penny into my 600E > but in case I break my word: will just about any laptop > drive replace my 12GB IBM drive, or do I have to stick to > an IBM-"approved" drive?) Back before IBM shut down Whistle, I had been using a Fujitsu LifeBook for a while at work (since one of my colleagues no longer needed it), and it proved to be useful, though it was pretty old and had some hardware problems. My (then) boss directed me to go downstairs (Engineering was upstairs) to the IT folks & pick up a ThinkPad 600E (which was the standard issue). I did, and immediately swapped the disk drives between the LifeBook & 600E. I needed to tweak the XF86Config a little, and the machine was up & running FreeBSD. (I later re-installed FreeBSD on the other disk drive, then swapped back.) Based on that empirical evidence (as well as other disk-drive swaps I've done since, though none of the others involved a ThinkPad), I'd suggest that it's quite likely that as long as the form factor (thickness, in this case) is OK, the drive should be fine. Note that the TravelStar line of drives (that IBM made for laptops) is now a Hitachi brand. Peace, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org I resent spammers because spam is a DoS attack on my time. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for public key. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 15:14:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3BA16A4CF for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:14:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8729543D2D for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:14:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAOFBahL053882; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:11:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:12:16 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20041124.081216.25301577.imp@bsdimp.com> To: jhary@unsane.co.uk From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20041124095146.M6276@unsane.co.uk> References: <41A3DCC5.6050309@ccstores.com> <20041124095146.M6276@unsane.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: fmobile@ccstores.com cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: internal ethernet not found Fujitsu Lifebook N5010 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:14:14 -0000 In message: <20041124095146.M6276@unsane.co.uk> Vince Hoffman writes: : > Can anyone point me in a direction which will get my ethernet going? : > Yes, I can use a PCMCIA ethernet card (which I have), but it's a : > shame to not be able to use the built-in ethernet. : > : looking at : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-July/004385.html : it looks like you may be out of luck unless yours now shows up in pciconf : -lv . The chipset should be supported by the rl driver, although thats : only a should of course. You might try booting without cbb in the kernel. If that matters, then let me know. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 15:54:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2BA16A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:54:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out-1.mail.amis.net (out-1.mail.amis.net [212.18.32.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0BC43D41 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:54:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karel.miklav@siol.net) Received: from localhost (in-2.mail.amis.net [212.18.32.19]) by out-1.mail.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8145B4333 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:54:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from in-2.mail.amis.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (in-2.mail.amis.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95027-06 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:54:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from piranha.amis.net (piranha.amis.net [212.18.32.3]) by in-2.mail.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37814228609 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:54:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from siol.net (cpe-212-18-37-245.dialup.amis.net [212.18.37.245]) by piranha.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF43FD92 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:54:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41A4AEBD.90602@siol.net> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:54:37 +0100 From: Karel Miklav User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040115 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, sl, hr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <13508512fa00.12fa00135085@prodigy.net.mx> <20041124004306.GA1887@moo.holy.cow> <20041124082415.GA71963@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20041124082415.GA71963@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at amis.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.899 required=5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Best HDD's for laptops? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:54:42 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 07:43:06PM -0500, Parv wrote: > (I *promised* myself not to sink another penny into my 600E > but in case I break my word: will just about any laptop > drive replace my 12GB IBM drive, or do I have to stick to > an IBM-"approved" drive?) Hello Gary, I guess anything goes, but try before u buy if you can. I was looking for a used disk but got a brand new Samsung SpinPoint 40g so cheap I couldn't belive it's not a scam. The disk is fast and you have to listen very well to hear it spinning. Regards, Karel From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 16:14:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9719916A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:14:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postal3.es.net (postal3.es.net [198.128.3.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6B843D1F for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:14:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP id IBA74465; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:14:37 -0800 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 914825D04; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:14:36 -0800 (PST) To: Gary Kline In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:24:15 PST." <20041124082415.GA71963@thought.org> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:14:36 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20041124161436.914825D04@ptavv.es.net> cc: Alejandro lanjoe9 Valenzuela cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best HDD's for laptops? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:14:37 -0000 > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:24:15 -0800 > From: Gary Kline > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 07:43:06PM -0500, Parv wrote: > > [[ ... ]] > > > > > What HDD brands/models/manufacturers would you recommend? I need > > > one that resists heavy use.. > > > > Currently i have been using Fujitsu MHT2060AH 60GB hard drive for > > about 8-9 months; cannot say how long it will last. It has been > > amazingly much quieter in comparison. > > > > My usage consist mainly of writing/searching/reading files -- > > fetching email, (de)compression of ~2.5GB mbox, various log files. > > > > > > (I *promised* myself not to sink another penny into my 600E > but in case I break my word: will just about any laptop > drive replace my 12GB IBM drive, or do I have to stick to > an IBM-"approved" drive?) No drive approval. (I'm really annoyed about the mini-PCI approval in my T30!) Any Toshiba or Hitachi drive should be OK as IBM used both as original equipment. I suspect that Fujitsu and any others would be fine, too. I've seen 40 GB drives for sale at about $80 over the past few weeks (both Toshiba and Hitachi) at Fry's, if you are in the right part of the country. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 19:23:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11EB16A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:23:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dd1318.kasserver.com (dd1318.kasserver.com [81.209.148.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6344843D2F for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:23:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbergling@0xfce3.net) Received: from spot.0xfce3.net (port-ip-213-211-224-164.reverse.mdcc-fun.de [213.211.224.164]) by dd1318.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F0C520CF; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:23:04 +0100 (CET) Received: by spot.0xfce3.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EE8D31BA5; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:22:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:22:41 +0100 From: Gordon Bergling To: Bruno Ducrot Message-ID: <20041124192241.GA8346@spot> References: <20041112190310.GA4574@nemesis.md.0xfce3.net> <20041112195629.GL31422@poupinou.org> <20041112232257.GA5904@nemesis.md.0xfce3.net> <1100429175.9172.2.camel@RabbitsDen> <20041114122125.GA6783@spot.md.0xfce3.net> <20041115145930.GM31422@poupinou.org> <20041115161059.GA1273@spot.md.0xfce3.net> <20041115175136.GQ31422@poupinou.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041115175136.GQ31422@poupinou.org> X-Url: X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.8.1-3-386 i686 X-Host-Uptime: 20:13:39 up 2:49, 4 users, load average: 0.38, 0.13, 0.10 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i cc: Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd powernow on athlon xp-m 3000+ X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gordon Bergling List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:23:07 -0000 --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bruno, On Mon Nov 15, 2004 at 06:51PM +0100, Bruno Ducrot wrote: > On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 05:10:59PM +0100, Gordon Bergling wrote: > >=20 > > But due recent readings I find out that there are two versions of the > > athlon xp-m 3000 cpu! The first version is based on the barton core and= the > > second one is based on the ahlon64 clamath (or so) core (with disabled > > amd64 features). The cpu I have is the athlon64 based one. A few hours > > ago I tried some linux livecds and no one could take use of the powerno= w-k7 > > module. Some newer kernels (>=3D 2.6.8) could use powernow-k8 with my c= pu. >=20 > I though there is only one, the other being a semptron? Correct. I think the semptron and the amd athlon xp-m 3000+ are the same cpus with different cpu-strings. Maybe there are other differencens, but I don't know them. > > I think thats this situation isn't so simple solveable on the current > > situation on FreeBSD. Please correct me if I am wrong. ;) >=20 > You are right for now. But that may change in the near future ;) If you would like to spend time to create or port the existing driver to FreeBSD I would like to help. I have some good c knowlegde but not on the hardware-layer. ;) I currently read the linux driver and so if I can create and prototype or something similiar... best regards, Gordon --=20 Gordon Bergling http://www.0xFCE3.net/ PGP Fingerprint: 7732 9BB1 5013 AE8B E42C 28E0 93B9 D32B C76F 02A0 RIPE-HDL: MDTP-RIPE "There is no place like 127.0.0.0/8" --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBpN+Bk7nTK8dvAqARAmMPAKCkNlsbxc4HMx+Zc0GY2yUcfvtngQCfZ+4N 2bNEOAisACeSDJiWMkoqnvA= =Tsf2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 20:42:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0081416A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:42:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from admin.cablespeed.com (mail.admin.cablespeed.com [216.15.205.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571D443D45 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:41:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rschi@rsmba.biz) Received: from [66.235.37.251] (account schilling@cablespeed.com HELO rsmba.biz) by admin.cablespeed.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 78171202 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:41:58 -0600 Message-ID: <41A4F2E1.4070801@rsmba.biz> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:45:21 -0800 From: Richard Schilling Organization: Richard Schilling, MBA User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040412 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: IRQ conflicts on RELEASE 5.2.1: Thinkpad 600x and PCM100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:42:00 -0000 uname -a output: FreBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov 24 02:10:02 GMT 2004 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/COGNITION i386 Can someone give me a clue on how to identify IRQ conflicts on 5.2.1? But, here's the bigger problem: I've been crusing around the list archives and technical documentation for about a week now trying to get my ThinkPad 600x working with a Linksys PCM100 card. I'm still getting device timeouts (which suggests to me an IRQ conflict). Here is my system configuration: in /boot/loader.conf: hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1" hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000" in /boot/device/hints, all references to hint.ed.0 are commented out. I have tried setting the following values (rebooting with each change) with no result: hint.ed.0.at="isa" & hint.ed.0.at="pci" hint.ed.0.port="0x280" & hint.ed.0.port="0x100" hint.ed.0.irq="10" & hint.ed.0.irq="3" hint.ed.0.maddr="0xd8000" Any further help in getting this card working would be apprecitated. Thanks. Richard Schilling From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 21:04:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547E816A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:04:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615FC43D2F for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:04:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAOL3tKo044539; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:03:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAOL3rgO018588; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:03:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAOL3pqf018587; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:03:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:03:51 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Kevin Oberman Message-ID: <20041124210350.GA18410@thought.org> References: <20041124082415.GA71963@thought.org> <20041124161436.914825D04@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041124161436.914825D04@ptavv.es.net> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Gary Kline cc: Alejandro lanjoe9 Valenzuela cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best HDD's for laptops? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:04:02 -0000 On Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 08:14:36AM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:24:15 -0800 > > From: Gary Kline > > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 07:43:06PM -0500, Parv wrote: > > > > [[ ... ]] > > > > > (I *promised* myself not to sink another penny into my 600E > > but in case I break my word: will just about any laptop > > drive replace my 12GB IBM drive, or do I have to stick to > > an IBM-"approved" drive?) > > No drive approval. (I'm really annoyed about the mini-PCI approval in > my T30!) Any Toshiba or Hitachi drive should be OK as IBM used both as > original equipment. I suspect that Fujitsu and any others would be > fine, too. > > I've seen 40 GB drives for sale at about $80 over the past few weeks > (both Toshiba and Hitachi) at Fry's, if you are in the right part of the > country. Fry's is the only place *I'd* go... Anyway, since I can take this anywhere and have it serve as a second console at home, it's nice to know that I'm not wedged when it come to upgrading/replacing the HDD. thanks guys, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 21:04:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB69716A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:04:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailhub03.unibe.ch (mailhub03-eth0.unibe.ch [130.92.9.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E10C43D55 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:04:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roth@speedy.unibe.ch) Received: from localhost (scanhub02-eth0.unibe.ch [130.92.254.66]) by mailhub03.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1539312068; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:04:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailhub03.unibe.ch ([130.92.9.70]) by localhost (scanhub02.unibe.ch [130.92.254.66]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20047-08-70; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:04:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from asterix.unibe.ch (asterix.unibe.ch [130.92.64.4]) by mailhub03.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F86012063; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:04:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from speedy.unibe.ch (speedy [130.92.64.35]) by asterix.unibe.ch (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id iAOL4Od03007; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:04:24 +0100 (MET) Received: (from roth@localhost) by speedy.unibe.ch (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id iAOL4Me3014559; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:04:22 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:04:22 +0100 From: Tobias Roth To: Richard Schilling Message-ID: <20041124210422.GA14551@speedy.unibe.ch> Mail-Followup-To: Richard Schilling , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <41A4F2E1.4070801@rsmba.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41A4F2E1.4070801@rsmba.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-message-flag: Warning! Using Outlook is insecure and promotes virus distribution. Please use a different email client. X-Virus-checked: by University of Berne cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IRQ conflicts on RELEASE 5.2.1: Thinkpad 600x and PCM100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:04:28 -0000 On Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 12:45:21PM -0800, Richard Schilling wrote: > uname -a output: > > FreBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov 24 02:10:02 GMT > 2004 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/COGNITION i386 for starters, please update to 5.3 release or stable cheers, t. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 21:46:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC22816A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:46:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from admin.cablespeed.com (mail.admin.cablespeed.com [216.15.205.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121CE43D1F for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:46:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rschi@rsmba.biz) Received: from [66.235.37.251] (account schilling@cablespeed.com HELO rsmba.biz) by admin.cablespeed.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 78189089 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:46:34 -0600 Message-ID: <41A5020B.1020906@rsmba.biz> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:50:03 -0800 From: Richard Schilling Organization: Richard Schilling, MBA User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040412 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <41A4F2E1.4070801@rsmba.biz> In-Reply-To: <41A4F2E1.4070801@rsmba.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: IRQ conflicts on RELEASE 5.2.1: Thinkpad 600x and PCM100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:46:35 -0000 Just a follow up. I got the card working by disabling ACPI, alltogether. crowd: "I got the card working by disabling ACPI" sorry - Airplane joke Seriously, though. After searching some more I realized that the ACPI was rerouting IRQ requests, and read the FreeBSD page related to ACPI http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/acpi-debug.html#ACPI-SUBMITDEBUG Disabling ACPI is done by setting the following in /boot/device.hints: hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" I tried to disable just a subsystem at first by putting debug.acpi.disable="pci_link" but then the hard drive wasn't found and I had to set the variable at the boot prompt to get running again. So, being this is an ACPI problem, I'll work it through freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org. I'm not brave enough to use the apm device in lieu of acpi because the man page says it can destroy batteries if you're not careful. Richard Schilling Richard Schilling wrote: > uname -a output: > > FreBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov 24 02:10:02 GMT > 2004 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/COGNITION i386 > > > Can someone give me a clue on how to identify IRQ conflicts on 5.2.1? > > But, here's the bigger problem: > > I've been crusing around the list archives and technical documentation > for about a week now trying to get my ThinkPad 600x working with a > Linksys PCM100 card. > > I'm still getting device timeouts (which suggests to me an IRQ > conflict). Here is my system configuration: > > in /boot/loader.conf: > hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1" > hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000" > > > in /boot/device/hints, all references to hint.ed.0 are commented out. I > have tried setting the following values (rebooting with each change) > with no result: > > hint.ed.0.at="isa" & hint.ed.0.at="pci" > hint.ed.0.port="0x280" & hint.ed.0.port="0x100" > hint.ed.0.irq="10" & hint.ed.0.irq="3" > hint.ed.0.maddr="0xd8000" > > Any further help in getting this card working would be apprecitated. > > Thanks. > > Richard Schilling > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 22:16:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C52B16A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:16:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hermes.uci.kun.nl (hermes.uci.kun.nl [131.174.93.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF5E43D41 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:16:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thundur@elvis.mayaxatl.org) Received: from elvis.mayaxatl.org (vhe-744011.sshn.net [195.169.211.176]) by hermes.uci.kun.nl (PMDF V6.2-X17 #30689) with ESMTP id <0I7P005ADF7FQP@hermes.uci.kun.nl> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:16:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from elvis (elvis [127.0.0.1]) by elvis.mayaxatl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D137C for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:16:26 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:16:26 +0100 From: Felix Sender: thundur@elvis.mayaxatl.org To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-id: <20041124221626.B4D137C@elvis.mayaxatl.org> Subject: cardbus error after upgrade to 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:16:29 -0000 Hello I have a realtek 8139 cardbus ethernet card. Since I have upgraded to FreeBSD 5.3 it worked fine (5.0 and 5.2.1). I just needed to insert it. Now, I get errors when I insert the card: (...) cbb0: at device 4.0 on pci0 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 cbb1: at device 4.1 on pci0 cardbus1: on cbb1 pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1 (...) cbb alloc res fail cardbus0: Can't get memory for IO ports cbb alloc res fail re0: couldn't map ports/memory cbb alloc res fail rl0: couldn't map ports/memory cbb alloc res fail re0: couldn't map ports/memory cbb alloc res fail rl0: couldn't map ports/memory cardbus0: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) cbb0: CardBus card activation failed pciconf -vl gives the following on the card: none4@pci4:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x020014cb chip=0x813910ec rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' device = 'RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter' class = network subclass = ethernet Can anyone explain this error? And how can I fix it? regards, Felix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 25 17:59:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5068216A4CE for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:59:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail0.jaist.ac.jp (mail0.jaist.ac.jp [150.65.5.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7A243D55 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:59:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zrelli@jaist.ac.jp) Received: from mail-vc.jaist.ac.jp (mail-vc.jaist.ac.jp [150.65.5.31]) by mail0.jaist.ac.jp (3.7W-jaist_mail) with ESMTP id iAPHxVl00756 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 02:59:31 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail-vc.jaist.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.jaist.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA6B8498 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 02:59:31 +0900 (JST) Received: from smtp.jaist.ac.jp (smtp.jaist.ac.jp [150.65.38.97]) by mail-vc.jaist.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8158493 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 02:59:31 +0900 (JST) Received: from [150.65.42.101] (dm6d01.jaist.ac.jp [150.65.42.101]) by smtp.jaist.ac.jp (3.7W-smtp) with ESMTP id iAPHvLs07780 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 02:57:21 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <41A61D80.2000506@jaist.ac.jp> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 02:59:28 +0900 From: Saber Zrelli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: IBM R50p Intergated atheros based wireless card X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:59:34 -0000 Hi folks , I'm having problem on making the integrated atheros chip based wireless card to work on FreeBSD 5.3 Release. I wanted to know if there is some people that get it working. I have an IBM R50p , I;m trying it using the ath drive , when I do : kldload ath ifconfig ath0 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid XXXXX ifconfig ath0 up dhclient ath0 i can have an IP address, then , it looks like I can capture packets , but I cant send any. Any comments or suggestions ? Many Thanks. -- Saber ZRELLI. Japan Advanced Institute of Science and Technology Center of Information Science Shinoda Laboratory url : www.jaist.ac.jp/~zrelli gpg-id : 0x7119EA78 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 26 14:56:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C08D16A4CE for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:56:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (ultra5.eskimo.com [204.122.16.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DE743D5D for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:56:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joji@eskimo.com) Received: from eskimo.com (joji@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAQEu602013989; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 06:56:06 -0800 Received: (from joji@localhost) by eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id GAA24522; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 06:56:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 06:56:06 -0800 From: Joseph Olatt To: Richard Schilling Message-ID: <20041126065606.A24185@eskimo.com> References: <41A4F2E1.4070801@rsmba.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <41A4F2E1.4070801@rsmba.biz>; from rschi@rsmba.biz on Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 12:45:21PM -0800 cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IRQ conflicts on RELEASE 5.2.1: Thinkpad 600x and PCM100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:56:18 -0000 Hello Richard, On Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 12:45:21PM -0800, Richard Schilling wrote: > uname -a output: > > FreBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov 24 02:10:02 GMT > 2004 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/COGNITION i386 > > > Can someone give me a clue on how to identify IRQ conflicts on 5.2.1? Usually "/var/log/messages" or "dmesg" will inform you about IRQ conflicts. It would say something like "detected interrupt storm... throttling input..." You can also use 'kenv | grep irq' to see all the interrupts being used. > But, here's the bigger problem: > > I've been crusing around the list archives and technical documentation > for about a week now trying to get my ThinkPad 600x working with a > Linksys PCM100 card. > > I'm still getting device timeouts (which suggests to me an IRQ > conflict). Here is my system configuration: > > in /boot/loader.conf: > hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1" > hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000" > > > in /boot/device/hints, all references to hint.ed.0 are commented out. I > have tried setting the following values (rebooting with each change) > with no result: > > hint.ed.0.at="isa" & hint.ed.0.at="pci" > hint.ed.0.port="0x280" & hint.ed.0.port="0x100" > hint.ed.0.irq="10" & hint.ed.0.irq="3" > hint.ed.0.maddr="0xd8000" > > Any further help in getting this card working would be apprecitated. > > Thanks. > > Richard Schilling > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 27 00:22:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA67616A4CE for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:22:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 194-185-53-242.f5.ngi.it (194-185-53-242.f5.ngi.it [194.185.53.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE7243D4C for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:22:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@remotelab.org) Received: from einstein.lab (localhost. [127.0.0.1])iAR0MHvp025203 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 01:22:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mark@remotelab.org) Received: from einstein.lab (localhost.lab [127.0.0.1]) by einstein.lab (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAR0ODGP003467 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 01:24:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mark@einstein.lab) Received: (from mark@localhost) by einstein.lab (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iAR0ODQ8003466 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 01:24:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 01:24:13 +0100 From: Marco Trentini To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041127002413.GC839@einstein.lab> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD einstein.lab 6.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: lifebook P1032 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:22:20 -0000 I should buy a lifebook P1032 notebook and I would like to know if somebody have had any experience with FreeBSD and this machine. -- Marco Trentini mark@remotelab.org http://www.remotelab.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 27 10:37:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6B716A4CE for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 10:37:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp0.libero.it (smtp0.libero.it [193.70.192.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87AF243D58 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 10:37:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paolo_veronelli@yahoo.it) Received: from localhost (172.16.1.79) by smtp0.libero.it (7.0.027-DD01) id 40D2BD6002488B3C for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:37:51 +0100 Received: from proxyplus.universe (151.81.5.94) by smtp1.libero.it (7.0.027-DD01) id 40CB290906657ECF for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:38:03 +0100 Received: from 192.168.1.6 [192.168.1.6] by Proxy+; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:38:51 +0100 for Message-ID: <41A866F3.9070309@yahoo.it> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:37:23 +0000 From: Paolo Veronelli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mobile freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at libero.it serv1 Subject: 5.3 on dell 8000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 10:37:53 -0000 is acpi working on dell 8000? When I start the os with acpi disabled it hangs with page fault trapping int 12 with ints disabled !?! If I try to suspend it with the keyboard it hangs with suspend not ready I imagine there have been talkings about dell 8000 but I'am new to notebooks world. Thanks for help Paolino