From owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 14 20:15:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A25316A41F; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:15:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jacnsxozt@cashette.com) Received: from caremailsmtp1.prontomail.com (p54BF2F6B.dip.t-dialin.net [84.191.47.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01D543D48; Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:15:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jacnsxozt@cashette.com) message-id: <004e01c5a10c$f6f4b940$c54e3a82@s.it.rs> From: "Paul Cox" To: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 13:15:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.1830 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 Subject: Is It a St0ck Market Standout? X-BeenThere: freebsd-database@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Database use and development under FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:15:48 -0000 The Oi| and Gas Advisory Now that Oil and Gas has entered a |ong-term bull market, our specialty in pinpointing the hottest companies of the few remaining underva|ued energy plays has produced soaring returns. Emerson Oil and Gas (EOGI) is an energy developer in the US "Oil Belt" and in Canada's most high|y coveted reservoirs with generating potential of Mi|lions per week. Breaking NEws Emerson Oil and Gas, Inc., (EOGI) is pleased to announce that the Alberta Energy & Utility Board has issued License No. 0330206 for the company's well 11-16-24-2 the Acadia Project. 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If you wish to stop future mai|ings, or if you feel you have been wrongfu|ly p|aced in our membership, please send a b|ank e mail with No Thanks in the subject to From owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 11:27:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25ACA16A41F; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:27:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uzi@bmby.com) Received: from mail.ilovesex.co.il (line26-112.adsl.actcom.co.il [192.115.26.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581CE43D46; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:27:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uzi@bmby.com) Received: from uzi ([192.168.0.7]) by mail.ilovesex.co.il (8.13.4/8.13.3) with SMTP id j7JBTCct029884; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:29:12 +0300 (IDT) (envelope-from uzi@bmby.com) Message-ID: <040f01c5a4b9$f5d2dff0$0700a8c0@uzi> From: "Uzi" To: , Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:31:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1255"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD hardware solution for a database server X-BeenThere: freebsd-database@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Database use and development under FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:27:12 -0000 Hi I am looking for a FreeBSD 5.4 hardware/configuration solutions for a MySQL database server. My server is currently running FreeBSD 5.4 with a web/mail/database server on a Proliant DL380 G4 (dual Xeon 3.2, 2 GB ram), and the speed isn't fast enough. We have a pretty big database with allot of complex joins/indexes, so a dedicated database server seems like the next step (among with optimizing/normalizing the database). Proliant DL580 looks fair to my eyes (as I'm pretty happy with HP) But I have a few indecisions: 1. 2/4 CPU 2. Amount of ram (4 GB+) 3. And most important (AFAIK) - Storage configuration (RAID 5 / RAID 0+1 etc.) What would be the preferred solution? Thanks, Uzi P.S - Please CC me the replies as I'm not subscribed. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 12:01:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E30716A41F; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:01:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dean@bong.com.au) Received: from aramaki.bong.com.au (aramaki.bong.com.au [203.91.232.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F5743D45; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:01:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dean@bong.com.au) Received: from dsl-203-33-164-108.nsw.netspace.net.au ([203.33.164.108] helo=[192.168.1.40]) by aramaki.bong.com.au with esmtpa (Exim 4.52 (FreeBSD)) id 1E65ad-0007lY-6F; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:03:15 +1000 Message-ID: <4305C9D0.60607@bong.com.au> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:00:16 +1000 From: Dean Hamstead User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050602) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Uzi References: <040f01c5a4b9$f5d2dff0$0700a8c0@uzi> In-Reply-To: <040f01c5a4b9$f5d2dff0$0700a8c0@uzi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1255; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD hardware solution for a database server X-BeenThere: freebsd-database@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Database use and development under FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:01:16 -0000 you may need to look at specifically what sort of queries are taxing the system lots of queries or long queries this will vary your final decision considerably. other options you might consider are.... - breaking up your database across several servers - seperate databases completely (good for mainly write stuff) - !!! replicate and load share (really good for ro stuff) !!! - getting in and really checking that indexes are well designed (indexes can change long taxing queries into childs play) - putting databases (or even tables) on different physical disks - optimising queries where possible - make the queries match indexes better - make smaller queries and then get more cpus. im not sure what these servers are like, im a dell man but its all just hardware. obviously faster cpu, more ram, 15k scsi disks and if raid 1+0 or 5 is faster may depend on the controller how many channels etc. the driver and card performance might even be worth looking into. if your really dying for performace, go back to the ports tree and try compiling for better performance. ie mysql can compile static for (what it claims) better performance, and there is one other option that eludes me. im not sure if linuxthreads is faster than native threads you may also find mysql5 to be faster than 41 (assuming mysql) Dean Uzi wrote: > Hi > > I am looking for a FreeBSD 5.4 hardware/configuration solutions for a > MySQL database server. > > My server is currently running FreeBSD 5.4 with a web/mail/database > server on a Proliant DL380 G4 (dual Xeon 3.2, 2 GB ram), and the speed > isn't fast enough. > > We have a pretty big database with allot of complex joins/indexes, so a > dedicated database server seems like the next step (among with > optimizing/normalizing the database). > > > > Proliant DL580 looks fair to my eyes (as I'm pretty happy with HP) > > But I have a few indecisions: > > > > 1. 2/4 CPU > > 2. Amount of ram (4 GB+) > > 3. And most important (AFAIK) - Storage configuration (RAID 5 / RAID 0+1 > etc.) > > > > What would be the preferred solution? > > > > Thanks, > > Uzi > > > > P.S - Please CC me the replies as I'm not subscribed. Thanks. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: dean@bong.com.au or djzort@bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 From owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 13:06:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCEC16A420 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:06:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcagle@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A4743D53 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:06:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcagle@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so504795rna for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 06:06:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JkmBZaGMQCUwVdmTTl/0XgeQtIPAoATUkngrNVNPSKnPnrlbm+jruA7oZYQ0/L2FJ+TSYKfGuXhFtHpRCBUgRazPQ9IncQlheLZgqRdn9KuEYJwsR/pdfrE++acwoYI7P2rDkV2X6tQ8S/DnNHH7cwYblglGXG3sgo2Ayt6q69k= Received: by 10.38.59.29 with SMTP id h29mr119616rna; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 06:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.90.20 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 06:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6863f0c905081906061290c642@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 08:06:36 -0500 From: jmc To: Uzi In-Reply-To: <040f01c5a4b9$f5d2dff0$0700a8c0@uzi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <040f01c5a4b9$f5d2dff0$0700a8c0@uzi> Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD hardware solution for a database server X-BeenThere: freebsd-database@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Database use and development under FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:06:38 -0000 For the best database-write performance on the DL380G4, make sure you have the Battery-Backed Write Cache (BBWC) option. The more spindles you have, the better. Are you using all 6 drive bays in the 380? Make sure they're all Ultra320 drives. 15K will give the best performance, but the 10K drives aren't too shabby.=20 RAID0 will give the best performance, but it's not redundant. Next is RAID1, then RAID5 or ADG. You might also try a DL385 (dual socket Opteron) or DL585 (quad socket Opteron) which will give you either 4 or 8 procs (if they are dual core). Regards, John http://people.freebsd.org/~jcagle/ On 8/19/05, Uzi wrote: > Hi >=20 > I am looking for a FreeBSD 5.4 hardware/configuration solutions for a MyS= QL > database server. >=20 > My server is currently running FreeBSD 5.4 with a web/mail/database serve= r > on a Proliant DL380 G4 (dual Xeon 3.2, 2 GB ram), and the speed isn't fas= t > enough. >=20 > We have a pretty big database with allot of complex joins/indexes, so a > dedicated database server seems like the next step (among with > optimizing/normalizing the database). >=20 >=20 >=20 > Proliant DL580 looks fair to my eyes (as I'm pretty happy with HP) >=20 > But I have a few indecisions: >=20 >=20 >=20 > 1. 2/4 CPU >=20 > 2. Amount of ram (4 GB+) >=20 > 3. And most important (AFAIK) - Storage configuration (RAID 5 / RAID 0+1 > etc.) >=20 >=20 >=20 > What would be the preferred solution? >=20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Uzi >=20 >=20 >=20 > P.S - Please CC me the replies as I'm not subscribed. Thanks. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > From owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 15:59:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37BA16A41F; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:59:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nevans@talkpoint.com) Received: from relay.talkpoint.com (pobox.talkpoint.com [204.141.15.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527F543D46; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:59:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nevans@talkpoint.com) Received: from ASSP-nospam ([127.0.0.1]) by relay.talkpoint.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:59:18 -0400 Received: from 204.141.15.194 ([204.141.15.194] helo=pleiades.nextvenue.com) by ASSP-nospam ; 19 Aug 05 15:59:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:59:17 -0400 From: Nick Evans To: Dean Hamstead Message-ID: <20050819115917.7351eef0@pleiades.nextvenue.com> In-Reply-To: <4305C9D0.60607@bong.com.au> References: <040f01c5a4b9$f5d2dff0$0700a8c0@uzi> <4305C9D0.60607@bong.com.au> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.11 (GTK+ 2.6.7; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Aug 2005 15:59:18.0074 (UTC) FILETIME=[F46E19A0:01C5A4D6] Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, Uzi , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD hardware solution for a database server X-BeenThere: freebsd-database@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Database use and development under FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:59:20 -0000 On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:00:16 +1000 Dean Hamstead wrote: > if your really dying for performace, go back to the ports tree > and try compiling for better performance. ie mysql can compile > static for (what it claims) better performance, and there is > one other option that eludes me. im not sure if linuxthreads > is faster than native threads > > you may also find mysql5 to be faster than 41 (assuming mysql) > > > > Dean > Linking/libmapping mysql against libthr gave a big performance boost on RELENG_6 on our dual Opteron test server. Certainly much more than the compile time options. It's been stable too and we beat the hell out of it. sledgehammer# more /etc/libmap.conf [/usr/local/libexec/mysqld] libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2 libpthread.so.1 libthr.so.1 libpthread.so libthr.so Nick From owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 16:12:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30C916A41F for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:12:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scianos@seq.org) Received: from mail.seq.org (mail.seq.org [205.132.248.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA11F43D45 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:12:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scianos@seq.org) Received: from smtp-gw.seq.org ([192.168.1.10]) by mail.seq.org (SMSSMTP 4.1.0.19) with SMTP id M2005081909122113906 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:12:21 -0700 Received: from SEQ_UHSD-MTA by smtp-gw.seq.org with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:12:22 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.0 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:12:15 -0700 From: "Stuart Cianos" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: uzi@bmby.com Subject: RE: FreeBSD hardware solution for a database server (Uzi) X-BeenThere: freebsd-database@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Database use and development under FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:12:23 -0000 Hi Uzi - That is a decent configuration for a variety of tasks. What type of speed = issues are you seeing: is it limited to a couple of queries? How many = transactions are you running in a given time period? Have you optimized = the indexes on your tables for your particular tasks and/or operations? If you copy your configuration file and post it to the list (make sure you = remove any sensitive info like usernames or passwords, if you store that = type of thing in there) we might be able to help you a bit more. If you = haven't tuned your config file for your particular configuration, then = this can also result in performance not being up to par. Ensure that your = kernel is compiled for SMP capability and that your MySQL is compiled with = optimization ON for maximum throughput. While the optimization doesn't = make a huge difference in the short run, millions of transactions later a = couple of miliseconds here and miliseconds there add up to real time. RAID 0/1 is ideal, although RAID 5 is very sufficient for most all = purposes in this case. If we were running Oracle or Sybase, then different = RAID configurations suit different storage requirements, i.e. RAID 5 for = the table data storage and RAID 0/1 for the transaction logs. There = reasons for this get fairly technical, but if you are interested in the = reasons behind this you can google the topic. MySQL doesn't have such = demanding performance tuning requirements. - Stuart *- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:31:39 +0200 From: "Uzi" Subject: FreeBSD hardware solution for a database server=20 To: , Message-ID: <040f01c5a4b9$f5d2dff0$0700a8c0@uzi> Content-Type: text/plain; format=3Dflowed; charset=3D"windows-1255"; reply-type=3Doriginal Hi I am looking for a FreeBSD 5.4 hardware/configuration solutions for a = MySQL=20 database server. My server is currently running FreeBSD 5.4 with a web/mail/database = server=20 on a Proliant DL380 G4 (dual Xeon 3.2, 2 GB ram), and the speed isn't = fast=20 enough. We have a pretty big database with allot of complex joins/indexes, so a=20 dedicated database server seems like the next step (among with=20 optimizing/normalizing the database). Proliant DL580 looks fair to my eyes (as I'm pretty happy with HP) But I have a few indecisions: 1. 2/4 CPU 2. Amount of ram (4 GB+) 3. And most important (AFAIK) - Storage configuration (RAID 5 / RAID = 0+1=20 etc.) What would be the preferred solution? Thanks, Uzi P.S - Please CC me the replies as I'm not subscribed. Thanks.