From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 03:12:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7E216A41F for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:12:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21BD43D45 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:12:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j7S3CODP024534 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:12:24 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j7S3CO3p024533 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:12:24 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:12:24 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200508280312.j7S3CO3p024533@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:12:25 -0000 /bin/cat /w/www/build/doc/share/misc/docbook.css > docbook.css /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.relprefix.4 -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386 -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/article.sgml > article.htm l || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml article.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.relprefix.4 -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386 -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/article.sgml /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98 /bin/rm -f docbook.css /bin/cat /w/www/build/doc/share/misc/docbook.css > docbook.css /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98 -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/article.sgml > article.html | | (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml article.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98 -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/article.sgml /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64 /bin/rm -f docbook.css /bin/cat /w/www/build/doc/share/misc/docbook.css > docbook.css /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64 -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml article.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64 -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/article.s gml /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha /bin/rm -f docbook.css /bin/cat /w/www/build/doc/share/misc/docbook.css > docbook.css /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog-a uto -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog-auto -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/jade:/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../common/../common/dev.sgml:258:5:E: general entity "hwlist.el" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes/doc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/relnotes. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 6397.81 real 5112.57 user 315.59 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 05:30:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A463116A41F for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 05:30:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472A543D46 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 05:30:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j7S5U5rX075315 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 05:30:05 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j7S5U5oZ075314 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 05:30:05 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 05:30:05 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200508280530.j7S5U5oZ075314@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 05:30:05 -0000 /bin/cat /w/www/build/doc/share/misc/docbook.css > docbook.css /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.relprefix.4 -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386 -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/article.sgml > article.htm l || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml article.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.relprefix.4 -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386 -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386/article.sgml /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98 /bin/rm -f docbook.css /bin/cat /w/www/build/doc/share/misc/docbook.css > docbook.css /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98 -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/article.sgml > article.html | | (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml article.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98 -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98/article.sgml /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64 /bin/rm -f docbook.css /bin/cat /w/www/build/doc/share/misc/docbook.css > docbook.css /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64 -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml article.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64 -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64/article.s gml /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha /bin/rm -f docbook.css /bin/cat /w/www/build/doc/share/misc/docbook.css > docbook.css /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog-a uto -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog-auto -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/jade:/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../common/../common/dev.sgml:258:5:E: general entity "hwlist.el" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes/doc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/relnotes. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 277.86 real 223.18 user 36.42 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 07:59:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1186416A426 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 07:59:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from patrick.proniewski@univ-lyon2.fr) Received: from postfix3-2.free.fr (postfix3-2.free.fr [213.228.0.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7106743D48 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 07:59:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from patrick.proniewski@univ-lyon2.fr) Received: from [10.0.2.2] (boleskine.patpro.net [82.235.12.223]) by postfix3-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9F4C062 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:59:07 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: doc@FreeBSD.org From: Proniewski Patrick Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:59:06 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) Cc: Subject: typo in handbook section 15.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 07:59:10 -0000 Hi, just a quick note to report a typo in the page : "This chapter will focus on the Mandatory Access Control Framework (MAC Framework), and a set of pluggable security policy modules enableing various security mechanisms." | here ---------------| it should read "enabling" in place of "enableing", I think (I'm not a =20= native english speaker ;) ) regards, Patrick PRONIEWSKI --=20 Administrateur Syst=E8me - SENTIER - Universit=E9 Lumi=E8re Lyon 2 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 08:09:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D39916A41F for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 08:09:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: from zaphod.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B876443D46 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 08:09:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: by zaphod.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 3000) id 1F99011A5F; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:09:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:09:41 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Proniewski Patrick Message-ID: <20050828080940.GA854@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9amGYk9869ThD9tj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: typo in handbook section 15.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 08:09:44 -0000 --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2005.08.28 09:59:06 +0200, Proniewski Patrick wrote: > Hi, >=20 > just a quick note to report a typo in the page www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mac.html#MAC-=20 > SYNOPSIS> : >=20 > "This chapter will focus on the Mandatory Access Control > Framework (MAC Framework), and a set of pluggable security > policy modules enableing various security mechanisms." > | > here ---------------| >=20 > it should read "enabling" in place of "enableing", I think (I'm not a =20 > native english speaker ;) ) Fixed, thanks! It will show up at the web site within 24 hours. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDEXFEh9pcDSc1mlERAvJNAKCtUA4jQtgqoDQ7uhEsupoB4alYYQCfQghi Z3/i94vt2m+wLpfVKHwv/rA= =/9h3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 08:25:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F204716A41F; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 08:25:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: from zaphod.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F55A43D46; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 08:25:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: by zaphod.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 3000) id 6CF5811A5F; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:25:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:25:37 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: World Wide Web Owner Message-ID: <20050828082536.GB854@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <200508280530.j7S5U5oZ075314@www.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="z6Eq5LdranGa6ru8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200508280530.j7S5U5oZ075314@www.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 08:25:39 -0000 --z6Eq5LdranGa6ru8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2005.08.28 05:30:05 +0000, World Wide Web Owner wrote: > =3D=3D=3D> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha > /bin/rm -f docbook.css > /bin/cat /w/www/build/doc/share/misc/docbook.css > docbook.css > /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=3DISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -io= utput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../.= =2E/../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnot= ice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %gener= ate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc= /en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/s= gml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml= /docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c = /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog= -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../en_US= =2EISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-= 1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catal= og.ports -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../= =2E./share/sgml/catalog-a > uto -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../..= /share/sgml/catalog-auto -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/= hardware/alpha/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && = false) > /usr/local/bin/jade:/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/al= pha/../common/../common/dev.sgml:258:5:E: general entity "hwlist.el" not de= fined and no default entity > *** Error code 1 Fixed. I removed the el(4) device from the translations as well since otherwise they would fail to build after the el(4) manual page was removed. I hope this doesn't cause the translation teams too much headache wrt. to merging. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --z6Eq5LdranGa6ru8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDEXUAh9pcDSc1mlERAt2GAJ49/OQvWvzGi5LLyFQOQRZgsXkSSwCcDj0h HnmrfvWDBl1ZR+RgQA7twOI= =7dlS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --z6Eq5LdranGa6ru8-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 20:09:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0973816A41F; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:09:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC8F43D46; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:09:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (garys@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7SK9UdC010049; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:09:30 GMT (envelope-from garys@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from garys@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7SK9UcZ010045; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:09:30 GMT (envelope-from garys) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:09:30 GMT From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-Id: <200508282009.j7SK9UcZ010045@freefall.freebsd.org> To: garys@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, garys@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/84519: [patch] mdoc(7) manpage needs more about AUTHORS X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:09:31 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] mdoc(7) manpage needs more about AUTHORS Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->garys Responsible-Changed-By: garys Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Aug 28 20:08:00 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll work with vender on this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=84519 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 20:36:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1729D16A420; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:36:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F7E43D45; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:36:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (garys@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7SKaIRR012508; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:36:18 GMT (envelope-from garys@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from garys@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7SKaIrj012504; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:36:18 GMT (envelope-from garys) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:36:18 GMT From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-Id: <200508282036.j7SKaIrj012504@freefall.freebsd.org> To: garys@opusnet.com, garys@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, garys@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/84765: [patch] ls(1) manpage doesn't describe block handling well X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:36:19 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] ls(1) manpage doesn't describe block handling well State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: garys State-Changed-When: Sun Aug 28 20:32:20 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: PR came with my patch. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->garys Responsible-Changed-By: garys Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Aug 28 20:32:20 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll handle PR, with mentor. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=84765 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 20:40:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC7A16A41F for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:40:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B763643D48 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:40:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7SKeIst012666 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:40:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7SKeI5V012665; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:40:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:40:18 GMT Message-Id: <200508282040.j7SKeI5V012665@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: "Julien Gabel" Cc: Subject: Re: docs/85353: Very little cosmetic/ponctuation changes for the GEOM (geom-striping) chapter of the Handbook. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Julien Gabel List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:40:19 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/85353; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Julien Gabel" To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/85353: Very little cosmetic/ponctuation changes for the GEOM (geom-striping) chapter of the Handbook. Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:30:17 +0200 (CEST) ------=_20050828223017_58689 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >>> The following command can be used to manually mount a newly >>> - created disk stripe. >>> + created disk stripe: >> It's probably not worth changing, but I find "the following" to be >> redundant in sentences that ends with ":". > Agreed. >> In decreasing order of verbosity: >> >> The following command can be used to manually mount a newly created >> disk stripe. >> >> This command can be used to manually mount a newly created disk stripe: >> >> To manually mount a newly created disk stripe: > This one may be better i think, since it is more concise. >> And while opinions differ, IMO, it should be "newly-created". > Don't have a preference about this one. Ok. I reworked a little bit this one, trying to adapt it to what was said. In the same time, try to avoid the repeated words like "following" and "created". 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[216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A067116A420 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:20:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivoras@yahoo.com) Received: from web61023.mail.yahoo.com (web61023.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.179.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8CEB43D48 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:20:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivoras@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 99395 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Aug 2005 21:20:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Wr9GwYBW9b0rWac8w+Cjwpos/LvDL/oyNgQahQNuXpUp0/tooq+2MKW7kWGtDazI1ofbpk4yo2Mr8bvs2DyMbklRzyX5yPQHA69NwF7Ho596tR/C5ramb0MiKNznYWcD1cmI/EXOeh96FnXdITX3MIArBMk6c9GiG8+enm/cXK4= ; Message-ID: <20050828212010.99393.qmail@web61023.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.198.136.109] by web61023.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:20:09 PDT Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:20:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ivan Voras To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: pjd@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel & GEOM documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:20:11 -0000 Hi! During the work for my SoC project (gjournal) I've written a sort of tutorial or explanation document for kernel & GEOM programming. It's been read (well, most of it) by Pawel Jakub Dawidek (pjd@freebsd.org) and at least glanced over by Poul Henning Kamp (phk@freebsd.org), so it should be safe from critical errors :) Here it is: http://ivoras.sharanet.org/geom-tutorial.txt I'd be happy if it gets to be committed somewhere in the doc tree, but its not a requirement, as I can host it somewhere on my site. Please CC me if you have any questions, suggestions, etc. (I'm not subscribed) ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 21:38:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C91F16A41F; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:38:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712E543D46; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:38:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7SLcQcE009705; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:38:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j7SLcPCg009704; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:38:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:38:25 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Ivan Voras Message-ID: <20050828213825.GA9149@abigail.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ivan Voras , FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org, pjd@freebsd.org References: <20050828212010.99393.qmail@web61023.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050828212010.99393.qmail@web61023.mail.yahoo.com> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org, pjd@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Kernel & GEOM documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:38:29 -0000 On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 02:20:09PM -0700, Ivan Voras wrote: > Hi! > > During the work for my SoC project (gjournal) I've > written a sort of tutorial or explanation document for > kernel & GEOM programming. > > It's been read (well, most of it) by Pawel Jakub > Dawidek (pjd@freebsd.org) and at least glanced over by > Poul Henning Kamp (phk@freebsd.org), so it should be > safe from critical errors :) > > Here it is: > http://ivoras.sharanet.org/geom-tutorial.txt > > I'd be happy if it gets to be committed somewhere in > the doc tree, but its not a requirement, as I can host > it somewhere on my site. > A great thing would be to add GEOM related parts as a GEOM chapter in the arch-handbook. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 21:59:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA6216A41F; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:59:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) Received: from opusnet.com (mail.opusnet.com [209.210.200.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A9E43D45; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:59:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) Received: from localhost.localhost [70.98.246.232] by opusnet.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id A3B997A30038; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:59:21 -0700 Received: from localhost.localhost (localhost.localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localhost (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7SM0Ffa048400; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localhost (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j7SM09qG048399; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:00:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) To: Giorgos Keramidas From: garys@opusnet.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:00:09 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.17 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/84765: [patch] ls(1) manpage doesn't describe block handling well X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:59:25 -0000 Well, I've done a little with gnats. I hanged several times while editing in vi. I switched to emacs and I hanged once when exiting, but the PR looked OK. Here's an new-and-improved patch for your approval (or anyone's comment): --- ls..orig.1 Sun Aug 7 12:24:22 2005 +++ ls.1 Sun Aug 28 14:50:54 2005 @@ -176,29 +176,17 @@ .It Fl i For each file, print the file's file serial number (inode number). .It Fl k -If the -.Fl s -option is specified, print the file size allocation in kilobytes, -not blocks. -This option overrides the environment variable -.Ev BLOCKSIZE . -Note that -.Fl k -is mutually exclusive to -.Fl h , -and later -.Fl k -will nullify earlier -.Fl h . +This has the same effect as setting environment variable +.Ev BLOCKSIZE +to 1024, except that it also nullifies any +.Fl h +options to its left. .It Fl l (The lowercase letter .Dq ell . ) -List in long format. -(See below.) -A total sum (in blocks, see the -.Fl s -option for the block size unit) for all the file -sizes is output on a line before the long listing. +List files in the long format, as described in the +.Sx The Long Format +subsection below. .It Fl m Stream output format; list files across the page, separated by commas. .It Fl n @@ -223,13 +211,12 @@ Reverse the order of the sort to get reverse lexicographical order or the oldest entries first. .It Fl s -Display the number of file system blocks actually used by each file, in units -of 512 bytes, where partial units are rounded up to the next integer value. -A total sum for all the file -sizes is output on a line before the listing. -The environment variable -.Ev BLOCKSIZE -overrides the unit size of 512 bytes. +Display the number of blocks used in the file system by each file. +Block sizes and directory totals are handled as decribed in +.Sx The Long Format +subsection below, except (if the long format is not also requested) +the directory totals are not output when the output is in a +single column, even if multi-column output is requested. .It Fl t Sort by time modified (most recently modified first) before sorting the operands by lexicographical @@ -315,10 +302,6 @@ month, day-of-month file was last modified, hour file last modified, minute file last modified, and the pathname. -In addition, for each directory whose contents are displayed, the total -number of 512-byte blocks used by the files in the directory is displayed -on a line by itself immediately before the information for the files in the -directory. .Pp If the modification time of the file is more than 6 months in the past or future, then the year of the last modification @@ -337,6 +320,26 @@ linked-to file is preceded by .Dq Li -> . .Pp +If a file is a directory (and +.Fl d +is not used), the listing of the directory's contents is preceeded +by a labeled total number of blocks used in the file system by the files +which are listed as the directory's contents +(which may or may not include +.Pa \&. +and +.Pa .. +and other files which start with a dot, depending on other options). +.Pp +The default block size is 512 bytes. +The block size may be set with option +.Fl k +or environment variable +.Ev BLOCKSIZE . +Numbers of blocks in the output will have been rounded up so the +numbers of bytes is at least as many as used by the corresponding +file system blocks (which might have a different size). +.Pp The file mode printed under the .Fl l option consists of the @@ -460,12 +463,15 @@ .Nm : .Bl -tag -width ".Ev CLICOLOR_FORCE" .It Ev BLOCKSIZE -If the environment variable -.Ev BLOCKSIZE -is set, the block counts -(see -.Fl s ) -will be displayed in units of that size block. +If this is set, its value, rounded up to 512 or down to a +multiple of 512, will be used as the block size in bytes by the +.Fl l +and +.Fl s +options. +See +.Sx The Long Format +subsection for more information. .It Ev CLICOLOR Use .Tn ANSI @@ -675,3 +681,10 @@ .Sh BUGS To maintain backward compatibility, the relationships between the many options are quite complex. +.Pp +The exception mentioned in the +.Fl s +option description might be a feature that was +based on the fact that single-column output +usually goes to something other than a terminal. +It is debatable whether this is a design bug. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 23:48:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F1416A42D; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:48:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A52543D45; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:48:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (garys@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7SNmhqL032698; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:48:43 GMT (envelope-from garys@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from garys@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7SNmhle032694; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:48:43 GMT (envelope-from garys) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:48:43 GMT From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-Id: <200508282348.j7SNmhle032694@freefall.freebsd.org> To: garys@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, garys@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/84850: [patch] strspn(3) manpage description is too esoteric X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:48:43 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] strspn(3) manpage description is too esoteric Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->garys Responsible-Changed-By: garys Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Aug 28 23:45:37 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: Ready to get review and approval. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=84850 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 01:50:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E378316A41F for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:50:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C69F43D48 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:50:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7T1oDJG046376 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:50:13 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7T1oDjm046375; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:50:13 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:50:13 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200508290150.j7T1oDjm046375@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, till toenges Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0BB16A41F for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:49:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B687643D45 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:49:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j7T1nUuB013451 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:49:30 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j7T1nUO9013450; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:49:30 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200508290149.j7T1nUO9013450@www.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:49:30 GMT From: till toenges To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: docs/85425: fido (watchdog) device /dev/fido not documented X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:50:14 -0000 >Number: 85425 >Category: docs >Synopsis: fido (watchdog) device /dev/fido not documented >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Aug 29 01:50:12 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: till toenges >Release: 5.3 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The watchdog device is named /dev/fido. Unlike almost everything else in FreeBSD, it has no corresponding man page. There is a man page (several, actually) for watchdog, but you don't know what this fido device is, unless you grep the full source. >How-To-Repeat: man fido >Fix: create the appropriate man page. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 04:10:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E472C16A41F; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:10:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [69.50.233.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EA443D45; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:10:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 9B0611CE56; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:10:19 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Ivan Voras Message-ID: <20050829041019.GC74733@freebsdmall.com> References: <20050828212010.99393.qmail@web61023.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050828212010.99393.qmail@web61023.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org, pjd@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel & GEOM documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:10:20 -0000 On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 02:20:09PM -0700, Ivan Voras wrote: > Here it is: > http://ivoras.sharanet.org/geom-tutorial.txt > > I'd be happy if it gets to be committed somewhere in > the doc tree, but its not a requirement, as I can host > it somewhere on my site. This is really great. I made a first pass at converting it to DocBook. The output can be seen here : http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/geom-class/article.html When I first read your mail I thought that integrating it into the architecture handbook would be best, but after reading through the tutorial itself, I agree that it makes a fine stand-alone article. Maybe we can poach some of this material into a GEOM chapter of the architecture handbook at a later date, but for now I'd like to see it as an article. Any chance we can get you to update some of the out of date man pages you encountered in this project? - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 04:41:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8A116A420; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:41:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9400843D45; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:41:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (garys@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7T4fXJc070716; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:41:33 GMT (envelope-from garys@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from garys@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7T4fXfU070712; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:41:33 GMT (envelope-from garys) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:41:33 GMT From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-Id: <200508290441.j7T4fXfU070712@freefall.freebsd.org> To: garys@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, garys@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/84485: [patch] apropos(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:41:34 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] apropos(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->garys Responsible-Changed-By: garys Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Aug 29 04:40:01 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=84485 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 08:40:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B941B16A420 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:40:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B85943D45 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:40:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7T8eM6x002902 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:40:22 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7T8eLPd002901; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:40:21 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:40:21 GMT Message-Id: <200508290840.j7T8eLPd002901@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Yar Tikhiy Cc: Subject: Re: docs/85355: [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the described connector in the Handbook (serial). X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Yar Tikhiy List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:40:22 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/85355; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Yar Tikhiy To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: jpeg@thilelli.net, bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/85355: [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the described connector in the Handbook (serial). Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:30:36 +0400 On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 08:40:20PM +0000, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Julien Gabel writes: > > > + If you like making your own cables, you can construct a > > + null-modem cable for use with terminals. This table shows the RS-232C > > "for asyncronous communications with terminals". (I'm not sure what > "terminals" include, but synchronous comm needs more wires.) It might be reasonable to tell that in general, a null-modem cable is for connecting a DTE directly to another DTE. AFAIK, null-modem cables can be constructed for synchronous comms, too. Then, the topic can be narrowed down to async comms. > > + signal names and the pin numbers on a DB-25 connector. More information > > + and collection of cable descriptions may be found in the > + url="http://www.hardwarebook.net/cable/index.html">Hardware Book. To me, www.hardwarebook.net doen't seem the definite resource. IMHO, if the topic is rather wide, the reader should better be hinted to do a (re)search on the Net instead of pointed to a single resource, which is likely to become incomplete, outdated, or down. > I'd add: The standard also calls for a straight-through pin 1 to pin 1 > "protective ground" line, but it is often omitted. Some terminals can > get by using only pins 2, 3, and 7, while others, especially printers, > require other configurations than the example here. Synchronous > communications, for example, requires more lines to be used. Perhaps, we can spend a paragraph on giving the reader some insight into null-modem design principles, eh? In particular, the 3-wire cable, for which we happen to have some entries in /etc/gettytab, will provide data lines, but won't support flow control (RTS, CTS) or modem control (DTR, DSR, DCD). So the reader could understand *why* he may or may not need the simpler or the more complex cable design. I myself once spent some time making a 8-wire null-modem cable only to find out that my terminak didn't support flow control in the first place :-) Apropos, has there ever been a DTE printer? I think that printers or sync comms shouldn't belong there if it were told above that we would deal with async DTE-DTE comms only in this section. > > + 8 > > + DCD > > That design (after the fix) seems to be the most popular, but a book > "RS-232 Made Easy" uses several pages developing and justifying a > generic null-modem design like that, except he has 4 & 5 going to 8 > and vice versa. I probably used in at least one of my cables. Oh, > well; that's life with RS-232. We may show two or three different designs in the handbook if we can tell the reader about their merits. The problem with the design currently in the handbook is that it is erroneous *and* bogus. I'd suggest adding another row to the table so that it becomes evident that DTR on this side is connected to DSR+DCD on the other side while DTR on the other side is connected to DSR+DCD on this side. An RS-232 null-modem cable should be symmetric, to my mind. -- Yar From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 11:00:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163D916A41F for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:00:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B5443D48 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:00:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7TB0g53020372 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:00:42 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7TB0fD1020366 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:00:41 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:00:41 GMT Message-Id: <200508291100.j7TB0fD1020366@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:00:43 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. 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Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/05/24] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () s [2002/03/08] docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for o [2002/03/21] docs/36168 doc -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc o [2003/12/29] docs/60679 doc pthreads documentation does not describe o [2004/01/20] docs/61605 doc Improve documentation for i386 disk geome o [2004/10/03] docs/72285 doc GCC manuals are out of sync o [2004/10/15] docs/72743 doc Porter's Handbook lacks info on using aut o [2004/10/19] docs/72897 doc ERRATA and RELNOTES are missing warnings o [2005/02/25] docs/78062 doc Sample Echo Pseudo-Device Driver for Free o [2005/02/27] docs/78154 doc [PATCH] Make en_US FreeBSD Handbook more o [2005/04/07] docs/79658 doc Freebsd Handbook incorrect about ATAPI CD o [2005/04/13] docs/79857 doc manpage about ntp is wrong o [2005/05/10] docs/80843 doc [patch] Suggested doc fix for psm0 / hand o [2005/06/15] docs/82296 doc ttys(5) man page misleads about use for n o [2005/07/20] docs/83771 doc handbook/raid.html and atacontrol 15 problems total. 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Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [2000/07/19] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/02/02] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string s [2001/06/03] docs/27843 doc [PATCH] make.conf WITH_* variables aren't o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/09] docs/33724 doc [patch] fix Handbook error about Advanced o [2002/01/14] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documented behaviour of SF_flags for non- a [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/03/06] docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana o [2002/03/06] docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era o [2002/03/06] docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me o [2002/03/07] docs/35642 doc lo(4) page maybe should document optional o [2002/03/07] docs/35644 doc lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin o [2002/03/07] docs/35646 doc cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. o [2002/03/08] docs/35686 doc blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its o [2002/03/08] docs/35687 doc /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers o [2002/03/10] docs/35732 doc adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an o [2002/03/16] docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/ o [2002/03/16] docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro o [2002/03/28] docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo o [2002/03/29] docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin s [2002/05/07] docs/37843 doc manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong o [2002/05/25] docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to exist o [2002/05/27] docs/38620 doc Committers Guide and CVS o [2002/05/31] docs/38772 doc firewall_type feature not mentioned on Ha o [2002/06/07] docs/38982 doc developers-hanbook/Jail fix o [2002/06/15] docs/39348 doc kenv fetch of hostname requires dhcp/boot o [2002/06/19] docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broa o [2002/06/25] docs/39824 doc Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/bo o [2002/07/10] docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to o [2002/07/21] docs/40851 doc [PATCH] "mergemaster -p" in UPDATING's "C o [2002/07/28] docs/41089 doc pax -B option does not mention interactio o [2002/08/02] docs/41270 doc confusing directions for kernelconfig cha o [2002/08/20] docs/41807 doc natd -punch_fw "bug" o [2002/08/20] docs/41820 doc Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3) a [2002/08/27] docs/42058 doc Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto o [2002/10/04] docs/43651 doc stab(5) incorrectly states to include jus o [2002/10/08] docs/43823 doc [PATCH] update to environ(7) manpage o [2002/10/09] docs/43861 doc non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page o [2002/10/11] docs/43941 doc Rationale for Upgrade Sequence o [2002/10/15] docs/44074 doc ln(1) manual clarifications [patch] o [2002/10/29] docs/44594 doc Handbook doesn't mention drivers.flp for o [2002/12/02] docs/45940 doc burncd missing info o [2002/12/11] docs/46196 doc Missing return value in (set_)menu_format o [2002/12/16] docs/46291 doc correlation between HZ kernel config para o [2002/12/16] docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery em o [2003/01/28] docs/47575 doc Clarify requirements for IPFW2 in STABLE o [2003/01/28] docs/47594 doc [PATCH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allo o [2003/02/02] docs/47818 doc ln(1) manpage is confusing o [2003/02/08] docs/48101 doc There's no documentation on the fixit dis o [2003/03/06] docs/48980 doc [PATCH] nsgmls -s errors and sect. 3.2.1 o [2003/03/23] docs/50211 doc [PATCH] Fix textfile creation o [2003/04/03] docs/50573 doc return values for res_query/res_search/re o [2003/04/07] docs/50677 doc [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ o [2003/05/06] docs/51875 doc atkbd(4) adjustment o [2003/05/06] docs/51891 doc DIAGNOSTICS in ed driver manpage don't ma o [2003/05/07] docs/51921 doc ls(1) manpage lacks some information abou o [2003/05/11] docs/52071 doc [PATCH] Add more information about soft u o [2003/06/21] docs/53575 doc Change to Handbook Section 20.9 o [2003/06/21] docs/53596 doc Updates to mt manual page o [2003/06/25] docs/53732 doc quota output and man page do not document o [2003/07/13] docs/54451 doc [patch] i386_{get|set}_ldt manual page is o [2003/07/26] docs/54879 doc man 1 jot, -r description o [2003/08/12] docs/55482 doc DUMP has access to block devices in a JAI o [2003/09/24] docs/57153 doc S_IRWXU missing in fstat(2) man page? o [2003/09/30] docs/57388 doc INSTALL.TXT enhancement: mention ok promp o [2003/10/04] docs/57569 doc error on gensetdefs(8) man page o [2003/10/13] docs/57926 doc amd.conf.5 poorly format as it has both m o [2003/10/13] docs/57974 doc man page apropos for select macros (FD_SE o [2003/10/13] docs/57978 doc Type miss of GPIB in Hardware Notes o [2003/10/16] docs/58111 doc Handbook 12.4.3 Rebuilding ATA RAID1 Arra o [2003/10/28] docs/58615 doc update for Vinum chapter of Handbook: des o [2003/10/30] docs/58710 doc killpg(2) contains an error regarding sen o [2003/11/07] docs/59044 doc doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a o [2003/11/19] docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.fr o [2003/11/30] docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about acce o [2003/12/23] docs/60529 doc resolver(5) man page is badly out of date o [2003/12/24] docs/60544 doc getenv(3) manpage doesn't state the retur o [2004/01/08] docs/61070 doc handbook: Installation docs misleading: o [2004/01/13] docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enabl o [2004/01/21] docs/61667 doc Obsolete documentation on FreeBSD PnP o [2004/01/25] docs/61859 doc Incorrect informaiton about trace command o [2004/02/05] docs/62402 doc easily circumventable Blade150 problem o [2004/02/06] docs/62412 doc one of the diskless boot methods describe o [2004/02/12] docs/62719 doc cross-reference pccardd and devd o [2004/02/12] docs/62724 doc host(1) manpage does not include informat o [2004/02/22] docs/63215 doc Wrong prototypes in mi_switch(9) (ref doc o [2004/03/27] docs/64807 doc Handbook section on NAT incomplete o [2004/04/02] docs/65065 doc improper language ntpd man pages o [2004/04/13] docs/65477 doc Installation Instruction fail to mention o [2004/04/14] docs/65530 doc minor improvement to getgrent.3 o [2004/05/04] docs/66264 doc [patch] libexec/rtld/rtld.1 typo fixes no o [2004/05/04] docs/66265 doc [patch] Document what -f and LD_TRACE_LOA o [2004/05/05] docs/66296 doc [patch] contrib/amd/amq/amq.8 uses log_op o [2004/05/07] docs/66343 doc unlisted supported card on man page for w o [2004/05/10] docs/66483 doc [patch] share/man/man4/csa.4 grammar nits o [2004/05/17] docs/66768 doc 4_RELENG share/man/man4/ng_one2many.4 MFC o [2004/05/17] docs/66770 doc [patch] share/man/man4/ng_pppoe.4 tyops, o [2004/05/23] docs/67078 doc [patch] MFC of a rtld(1) man page is inco f [2004/06/10] docs/67806 doc [patch] Let 5.x users know how to boot in o [2004/06/13] docs/67893 doc boot.8's -m description is insufficient. o [2004/06/28] docs/68453 doc [patch] rc.subr.8 o [2004/07/02] docs/68606 doc Porter's Handbook: document how to write o [2004/07/09] docs/68843 doc Dates on rc.subr(8) & rc(8) are whack. o [2004/07/09] docs/68845 doc The .At macro produces unexpected results o [2004/08/01] docs/69861 doc [patch] usr.bin/csplit/csplit.1 does not o [2004/08/09] docs/70217 doc Suggested rewrite of docproj/sgml.sgml o [2004/08/16] docs/70555 doc [patch] changes to freebsd-glossary o [2004/09/10] docs/71555 doc how to run matlab on 5.2 o [2004/09/16] docs/71782 doc mount_nfs man page is a bit out of date f [2004/09/21] docs/71980 doc Handbook says that no other software is k o [2004/10/06] docs/72383 doc manpage for awk(1) is terribly small and o [2004/11/06] docs/73583 doc [patch] add missing instructions to ndis( o [2004/11/07] docs/73638 doc ipfw(8): Clarify syntax for use of tables o [2004/11/08] docs/73679 doc FreeBSD 5.3 Release notes mention new nat o [2004/11/28] docs/74477 doc [patch] Correct several links in the cont o [2004/12/02] docs/74612 doc [patch] updates to the glossary o [2004/12/14] docs/75068 doc login.conf(5) manual page says nothing ab o [2004/12/28] docs/75577 doc typos in man3 manual pages, login_class.3 o [2005/01/05] docs/75865 doc comments on "backup-basics" in handbook o [2005/01/11] docs/76094 doc Incorrect statement about partition d o [2005/01/17] docs/76333 doc EOF indicator can be cleared by not only o [2005/01/20] docs/76515 doc missleading use of make -j flag in handbo o [2005/02/04] docs/77087 doc The bootvinum script given in the handboo o [2005/02/24] docs/78041 doc docs for md need further explanation of t o [2005/02/27] docs/78138 doc Error in pre-installation section of inst o [2005/03/01] docs/78240 doc Replace with around a # o [2005/03/02] docs/78275 doc Keyword size needs to be changed to lengt o [2005/03/06] docs/78479 doc SO_NOSIGPIPE socket option undocumented o [2005/03/06] docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily com o [2005/03/07] docs/78520 doc error in man(5) lpd.conf, lpd.perms pages o [2005/03/16] docs/78915 doc rfork()'s RFTHREAD is not documented o [2005/03/23] docs/79156 doc buffersize knob for sound(4) is a tunable o [2005/04/18] docs/80070 doc [patch] Wrong dbm_close return value desc o [2005/04/20] docs/80159 doc [patch] rtld(1) mentions "%m" but it's no o [2005/05/11] docs/80871 doc terminfo(5) man page source corrupted o [2005/06/01] docs/81776 doc ifconfig(8) man page not updated with car o [2005/06/10] docs/82114 doc Misisng ndisapi(9) manual page o [2005/06/21] docs/82481 doc tar/gtar man page mod request o [2005/06/22] docs/82508 doc misleading man page for basename/dirname o [2005/06/24] docs/82595 doc 25.5.3 Configuring a bridge section of th o [2005/06/29] docs/82779 doc [patch] Kill entry for ddb manpage o [2005/07/17] docs/83621 doc [patch]: Minor omissions in /usr/src/UPDA o [2005/07/24] docs/84021 doc Missing manpage on RELENG_6 o [2005/07/26] docs/84101 doc mt(1) manpage has erroneous synopsis, etc o [2005/07/27] docs/84154 doc Handbook somewhat off in use of /boot/ker o [2005/07/29] docs/84265 doc [patch] chmod(1) manpage omits implicatio o [2005/07/29] docs/84266 doc security(8) manpage should have init(8)'s o [2005/07/29] docs/84267 doc chflags(1) manual doesn't say it's affect o [2005/07/29] docs/84268 doc chmod(1) manpage's BUGS entry is either w o [2005/07/29] docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME di o [2005/07/31] docs/84408 doc dump(8) manpage doesn't require an option o [2005/07/31] docs/84409 doc vinum-object-naming.html -v/-U typo o [2005/08/02] docs/84467 doc bsdlabel(8) manpage uses archaic "pack" i o [2005/08/03] docs/84509 doc Update some items at porters handbook abo o [2005/08/04] docs/84538 doc sk(4) driver supports Marvell 88E800x chi o [2005/08/04] docs/84549 doc [patch] errno(2) manpage uses "<...>" for o [2005/08/06] docs/84620 doc [patch] xargs(1) manpage has "utility" an o [2005/08/07] docs/84645 doc intro(6) manpage should always be install o [2005/08/07] docs/84646 doc terminfo(5) manpage confuses man program. o [2005/08/08] docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONME o [2005/08/09] docs/84704 doc bsdlabel(8) manpage has bad -m descriptio o [2005/08/10] docs/84764 doc [patch] hosts.equiv(5) manpage should SEE o [2005/08/11] docs/84790 doc Error in SYSCALL_MODULE(9) manual page o [2005/08/11] docs/84806 doc mdoc(7) manpage has section ordering prob o [2005/08/12] docs/84849 doc [patch] fdisk(8) manpage doesn't warn fdi o [2005/08/14] docs/84913 doc bsdlabel(8) manpage seems wrong about fsi o [2005/08/15] docs/84955 doc [patch] mdoc(7) manpage should mention mi o [2005/08/15] docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention o [2005/08/15] docs/84961 doc [patch] Sync NDIS documentation with real o [2005/08/17] docs/85062 doc tr(1) manpage omits several character cla o [2005/08/17] docs/85063 doc expand(1) manpage needs to clarify -t opt o [2005/08/17] docs/85065 doc [patch] builtin(1) manpage Aug'05 cleanup o [2005/08/17] docs/85066 doc [patch] builtin(1) manpage has incomplete o [2005/08/18] docs/85095 doc -q option of route(8) relates to a 'chang o [2005/08/18] docs/85097 doc [patch] devd.conf.5 lacks a lot of vital o [2005/08/18] docs/85100 doc ICH audio device support statement is amb o [2005/08/19] docs/85103 doc sh(1) manpage doesn't contain the word "c o [2005/08/19] docs/85118 doc [PATCH] opiekey(1) references non-existin o [2005/08/19] docs/85127 doc loader(8) manpage uses too-rare "depurati o [2005/08/19] docs/85128 doc loader.conf autoboot_delay incompletly de o [2005/08/21] docs/85186 doc ktrace(1) manpage doesn't warn about need o [2005/08/21] docs/85187 doc find(1) manpage missing block info for -l o [2005/08/21] docs/85194 doc man ssh(1) -o description o [2005/08/22] docs/85209 doc pfsync man page corrections o [2005/08/22] docs/85232 doc [PATCH] instructions on building web site o [2005/08/23] docs/85243 doc Missing icmp related abbreviations for pf o [2005/08/27] docs/85353 doc Very little cosmetic/ponctuation changes o [2005/08/27] docs/85355 doc [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the d o [2005/08/29] docs/85425 doc fido (watchdog) device /dev/fido not docu 195 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 11:01:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: docs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C596E16A41F for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:01:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6856B43D4C for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:01:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7TB1oIY021239 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:01:50 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7TB1mX8021207 for docs@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:01:48 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:01:48 GMT Message-Id: <200508291101.j7TB1mX8021207@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: docs@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:01:51 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2005/03/03] standards/78357docs getaddrinfo()'s AI_ADDRCONFIG not documen 1 problem total. Non-critical problems From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 14:51:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: docs@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9D916A41F for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:51:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) Received: from opusnet.com (mail.opusnet.com [209.210.200.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5634943D49 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:51:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) Received: from localhost.localhost [70.98.246.232] by opusnet.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id A0F04C09007C; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:51:28 -0700 Received: from localhost.localhost (localhost.localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localhost (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7TEqR2D063321; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:52:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localhost (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j7TEqGWL063318; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:52:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) To: Yar Tikhiy References: <200508272040.j7RKeKaQ018390@freefall.freebsd.org> <20050829083036.GA79816@comp.chem.msu.su> From: garys@opusnet.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:52:16 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20050829083036.GA79816@comp.chem.msu.su> (Yar Tikhiy's message of "Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:30:36 +0400") Message-ID: <3gbr3gvlr3.r3g@mail.opusnet.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.17 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/85355: [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the described connector in the Handbook (serial). X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:51:44 -0000 Yar Tikhiy writes: > It might be reasonable to tell that in general, a null-modem cable > is for connecting a DTE directly to another DTE. AFAIK, null-modem > cables can be constructed for synchronous comms, too. Then, the > topic can be narrowed down to async comms. I doubt if Julien wants to do more rewrites on the section. But I can't resist replying anyway; maybe Yar wants to rewrite it later. It probably should have some of the cable stuff from the "Serial Ports" section which says that a null-modem is AKA DTE-to-DTE cable and what DTE is, eg, a computer. And terminals traditionally have included teletypes and printers. (Once there were no CRTs or LCDs.) > To me, www.hardwarebook.net doen't seem the definite resource. > IMHO, if the topic is rather wide, the reader should better be > hinted to do a (re)search on the Net instead of pointed to a single > resource, which is likely to become incomplete, outdated, or down. I was thinking the same things. > Apropos, has there ever been a DTE printer? I think that printers > or sync comms shouldn't belong there if it were told above that we > would deal with async DTE-DTE comms only in this section. Serial printers were once common (I have one) and I think few, if any, were configured as DCE (eg, modems); the bulk were DTEs. But sync comms don't need to be mentioned; I don't know if FreeBSD can even handle it. I just wanted some note about the large number of null-modem designs for different purposes, for folks raised on USB. > We may show two or three different designs in the handbook if we > can tell the reader about their merits. The problem with the design > currently in the handbook is that it is erroneous *and* bogus. I'd > suggest adding another row to the table so that it becomes evident > that DTR on this side is connected to DSR+DCD on the other side > while DTR on the other side is connected to DSR+DCD on this side. The Note below the pin-out is supposed to make it evident, and with the Note the design is symmetric. > An RS-232 null-modem cable should be symmetric, to my mind. A "typical async null-modem cable", yes. But few of the many RS-232 null-modem cable designs shown in the book are symmetric, owing to the variety of designs of much DTE. (Less true today than yesteryear.) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 15:12:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0CD16A41F for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:12:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fred.wheeler@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F07843D49 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:12:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fred.wheeler@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i27so594904wxd for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:12:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ConDmTVKIJW6UNjodaROzV4HEJuURn8plbbUcEV9lWvCELf68oEInezU3EvDJrxYdEn7SjfTcpDWHXnnrs0tv9+uZLiW4fs+PD4LWxbv1XcMitkPa4l/OQze6Zf+cS/JHF49+FrBh5sNpG+fLJESAQcz3nwYWkxEc91tfJOEjxg= Received: by 10.70.38.1 with SMTP id l1mr45824wxl; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.45.12 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:12:44 -0400 From: Fred Wheeler To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Fix for Section 7.2.1.1 - Soundblaster 16 driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fww@ieee.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:12:51 -0000 Section "7.2.1.1 Configuring a Custom Kernel with Sound Support" of the online handbook contains this text: > Non-PnP ISA cards may require you to provide the kernel with > information on the sound card settings (IRQ, I/O port, etc). This is > done via the /boot/device.hints file. At system boot, the loader(8) > will read this file and pass the settings to the kernel. For example, > an old Creative SoundBlaster 16 ISA non-PnP card will use the > snd_sbc(4) driver, with the following line added to the kernel > configuration file: >=20 > device snd_sbc >=20 > as well as the following in /boot/device.hints: >=20 > hint.sbc.0.at=3D"isa" > hint.sbc.0.port=3D"0x220" > hint.sbc.0.irq=3D"5" > hint.sbc.0.drq=3D"1" > hint.sbc.0.flags=3D"0x15" >=20 > In this case, the card uses the 0x220 I/O port and the IRQ 5. I think this is slightly misleading and I have a fix. =20 I just used the handbook to help get FreeBSD recognizing an old Creative SoundBlaster 16 ISA non-PnP card. I have found that drivers other than "snd_sbc" are needed. I found that I needed to put device snd_driver in the /boot/kernel.conf file to include all the sound drivers and also keep the above section in /boot/device.hints. So, some driver other than snd_sbc is needed for this card, though I'm not sure exactly which. Maybe more than one is needed. Even though this part of the handbook just uses the SB16 as an example for general sound configuration, I was mislead by it. I think it would be helpful to add the following after the "In this case, the card uses the 0x220 ..." line. With the SoundBlaster 16 it may be the case that other drivers, in addition to snd_sbc are needed. If the above does not work, try putting "device snd_driver" in /boot/kernel.conf along with the above lines in the /boot/device.hints file. Regards, Fred Wheeler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 15:59:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E03516A41F for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:59:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F38043D6E for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:59:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7TFxda7025823; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:59:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7TFxdv6002171; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:59:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j7TFxdOx002170; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:59:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:59:39 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: fww@ieee.org Message-ID: <20050829155939.GC595@gothic.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: fww@ieee.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix for Section 7.2.1.1 - Soundblaster 16 driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:59:47 -0000 On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 11:12:44AM -0400, Fred Wheeler wrote: > Section "7.2.1.1 Configuring a Custom Kernel with Sound Support" of > the online handbook contains this text: > > > Non-PnP ISA cards may require you to provide the kernel with > > information on the sound card settings (IRQ, I/O port, etc). This is > > done via the /boot/device.hints file. At system boot, the loader(8) > > will read this file and pass the settings to the kernel. For example, > > an old Creative SoundBlaster 16 ISA non-PnP card will use the > > snd_sbc(4) driver, with the following line added to the kernel > > configuration file: > > > > device snd_sbc > > > > as well as the following in /boot/device.hints: > > > > hint.sbc.0.at="isa" > > hint.sbc.0.port="0x220" > > hint.sbc.0.irq="5" > > hint.sbc.0.drq="1" > > hint.sbc.0.flags="0x15" > > > > In this case, the card uses the 0x220 I/O port and the IRQ 5. > Well you quoted only one part, you have to read the whole section... especially the information before your quoted part. > I think this is slightly misleading and I have a fix. > > I just used the handbook to help get FreeBSD recognizing an old > Creative SoundBlaster 16 ISA non-PnP card. I have found that drivers > other than "snd_sbc" are needed. I found that I needed to put > > device snd_driver > [...] Once again, you missed an important part when you read this section (7.2.1.1 Configuring a Custom Kernel with Sound Support): The 1st line states: "The first thing to do is adding the generic audio driver sound(4) to the kernel, for that you will need to add the following line to the kernel configuration file: device sound" [...] "Then we have to add the support for our sound card." [...] To sum up: You only added support for your card but not the required sound(4) driver, so it could not work. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 16:13:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E54416A41F for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:13:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivoras@yahoo.com) Received: from web61024.mail.yahoo.com (web61024.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.179.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61F4643D46 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:13:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivoras@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 76555 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Aug 2005 16:13:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1VeLK3xXm/F6VN/1GNk6ut4fSXXBZxRJJm1z++WParU2AMkgy6mA6pO9gJBIX/qi1KW5zwfw0ASJoJ3WUQzdQrWxBGABKZUIZ62DV8HuC7t1JBR1nMqw4McDIRg5boSi2lLNZOgCuGVYckITbrgTT/3VGIZuHH6avKWU2YA4d4E= ; Message-ID: <20050829161314.76553.qmail@web61024.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.198.134.138] by web61024.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:13:14 PDT Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:13:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Ivan Voras To: Murray Stokely In-Reply-To: <20050829041019.GC74733@freebsdmall.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org, pjd@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel & GEOM documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:13:16 -0000 --- Murray Stokely wrote: > Maybe we can poach some of this material into a GEOM > chapter of the > architecture handbook at a later date, but for now > I'd like to see it > as an article. Agreed. > Any chance we can get you to update some of the out > of date man pages > you encountered in this project? I'd like to, yes, I encountered things needing better explanation. First I have to learn how to do it :) ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 16:20:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8887316A420 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:20:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927F143D5F for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:20:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7TGKMKV070015 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:20:22 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7TGKMiU070014; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:20:22 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:20:22 GMT Message-Id: <200508291620.j7TGKMiU070014@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: garys@opusnet.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Cc: Subject: Re: docs/85355: [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the described connector in the Handbook (serial). X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Gary W. Swearingen" List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:20:28 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/85355; it has been noted by GNATS. From: garys@opusnet.com (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Yar Tikhiy Cc: jpeg@thilelli.net, docs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/85355: [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the described connector in the Handbook (serial). Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:52:16 -0700 Yar Tikhiy writes: > It might be reasonable to tell that in general, a null-modem cable > is for connecting a DTE directly to another DTE. AFAIK, null-modem > cables can be constructed for synchronous comms, too. Then, the > topic can be narrowed down to async comms. I doubt if Julien wants to do more rewrites on the section. But I can't resist replying anyway; maybe Yar wants to rewrite it later. It probably should have some of the cable stuff from the "Serial Ports" section which says that a null-modem is AKA DTE-to-DTE cable and what DTE is, eg, a computer. And terminals traditionally have included teletypes and printers. (Once there were no CRTs or LCDs.) > To me, www.hardwarebook.net doen't seem the definite resource. > IMHO, if the topic is rather wide, the reader should better be > hinted to do a (re)search on the Net instead of pointed to a single > resource, which is likely to become incomplete, outdated, or down. I was thinking the same things. > Apropos, has there ever been a DTE printer? I think that printers > or sync comms shouldn't belong there if it were told above that we > would deal with async DTE-DTE comms only in this section. Serial printers were once common (I have one) and I think few, if any, were configured as DCE (eg, modems); the bulk were DTEs. But sync comms don't need to be mentioned; I don't know if FreeBSD can even handle it. I just wanted some note about the large number of null-modem designs for different purposes, for folks raised on USB. > We may show two or three different designs in the handbook if we > can tell the reader about their merits. The problem with the design > currently in the handbook is that it is erroneous *and* bogus. I'd > suggest adding another row to the table so that it becomes evident > that DTR on this side is connected to DSR+DCD on the other side > while DTR on the other side is connected to DSR+DCD on this side. The Note below the pin-out is supposed to make it evident, and with the Note the design is symmetric. > An RS-232 null-modem cable should be symmetric, to my mind. A "typical async null-modem cable", yes. But few of the many RS-232 null-modem cable designs shown in the book are symmetric, owing to the variety of designs of much DTE. (Less true today than yesteryear.) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 16:30:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B98B16A41F for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:30:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE4C43D49 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:30:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7TGUKXx070390 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:30:20 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7TGUK5o070389; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:30:20 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:30:20 GMT Message-Id: <200508291630.j7TGUK5o070389@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Yar Tikhiy Cc: Subject: Re: docs/85355: [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the described connector in the Handbook (serial). X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Yar Tikhiy List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:30:21 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/85355; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Yar Tikhiy To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: jpeg@thilelli.net, bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/85355: [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the described connector in the Handbook (serial). Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:24:04 +0400 On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 07:52:16AM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Yar Tikhiy writes: > > > It might be reasonable to tell that in general, a null-modem cable > > is for connecting a DTE directly to another DTE. AFAIK, null-modem > > cables can be constructed for synchronous comms, too. Then, the > > topic can be narrowed down to async comms. > > I doubt if Julien wants to do more rewrites on the section. But I > can't resist replying anyway; maybe Yar wants to rewrite it later. I'd like to when time permits. I use FreeBSD and null-modem cables often :-) It's good that our discussion of this topic will stay in the PR audit trail so that I can consult with it. Thank you for your suggestions! > It probably should have some of the cable stuff from the "Serial > Ports" section which says that a null-modem is AKA DTE-to-DTE cable > and what DTE is, eg, a computer. And terminals traditionally have > included teletypes and printers. (Once there were no CRTs or LCDs.) And I'd rather add a better definition for DTE and DCE, which are mistaken every there and then. -- Yar From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 16:46:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A6916A428 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:46:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fred.wheeler@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611AE43D45 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:46:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fred.wheeler@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i27so612223wxd for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:46:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VOpastejiYqHNTWQMnUJKwajY6vJzDLp/fX9TdvwGg+qsBKrOGG8LDk4b3DiFPLVQu+Yd8Vlf95PipCvv7Wxt0QgynPS1zqei2MHUNVdFMazykbgK/DHWgzv4SKGtvEOyNn2fXS6nitSAM2xOuAVoycrh9gwiLnB0JrgWywoTjM= Received: by 10.70.40.11 with SMTP id n11mr99862wxn; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.45.12 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:46:14 -0400 From: Fred Wheeler To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050829155939.GC595@gothic.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050829155939.GC595@gothic.blackend.org> Subject: Re: Fix for Section 7.2.1.1 - Soundblaster 16 driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fww@ieee.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:46:16 -0000 Marc is correct that my previous post makes little sense and section and section 7.2.1.1 is good as it is. I was trying to recall what I did a couple of days ago and by mistake I focused on 7.2.1.1 when my suggestion really applies to 7.2.1. (That's why I was mixing up loader.conf and kernel config file syntax.) Section 7.2.1 explains how to use # kldload snd_emu10k1 on the command line or put=20 snd_emu10k1_load=3D"YES" in /boot/loader.conf. I think this needs to be # kldload sound # kldload snd_emu10k1 and=20 sound_load=3D"YES" snd_emu10k1_load=3D"YES" However - I'm not 100% sure this is correct - so this should only be added if someone else knows that this is an obvious omission. I'll carefully verify this if needed, but will not be able to get back to the machine for two weeks. What I do know for sure is that snd_sbc_load=3D"YES" did not work for me (sbc0 card found, but /dev/sndstat listed no installed devices), but snd_driver_load=3D"YES" worked (snd0 shows up in dmesg and audio works great). While 7.2.1.1 seems complete I think 7.2.1 implies that only the driver for the specific card is needed and does not mention the generic audio driver. Regards, Fred Wheeler On 8/29/05, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 11:12:44AM -0400, Fred Wheeler wrote: > > Section "7.2.1.1 Configuring a Custom Kernel with Sound Support" of > > the online handbook contains this text: > > > > > Non-PnP ISA cards may require you to provide the kernel with > > > information on the sound card settings (IRQ, I/O port, etc). This is > > > done via the /boot/device.hints file. At system boot, the loader(8) > > > will read this file and pass the settings to the kernel. For example, > > > an old Creative SoundBlaster 16 ISA non-PnP card will use the > > > snd_sbc(4) driver, with the following line added to the kernel > > > configuration file: > > > > > > device snd_sbc > > > > > > as well as the following in /boot/device.hints: > > > > > > hint.sbc.0.at=3D"isa" > > > hint.sbc.0.port=3D"0x220" > > > hint.sbc.0.irq=3D"5" > > > hint.sbc.0.drq=3D"1" > > > hint.sbc.0.flags=3D"0x15" > > > > > > In this case, the card uses the 0x220 I/O port and the IRQ 5. > > >=20 > Well you quoted only one part, you have to read the whole section... > especially the information before your quoted part. >=20 > > I think this is slightly misleading and I have a fix. > > > > I just used the handbook to help get FreeBSD recognizing an old > > Creative SoundBlaster 16 ISA non-PnP card. I have found that drivers > > other than "snd_sbc" are needed. I found that I needed to put > > > > device snd_driver > > > [...] >=20 > Once again, you missed an important part when you read this section > (7.2.1.1 Configuring a Custom Kernel with Sound Support): >=20 > The 1st line states: >=20 > "The first thing to do is adding the generic audio driver sound(4) to the > kernel, for that you will need to add the following line to the kernel > configuration file: >=20 > device sound" >=20 > [...] >=20 > "Then we have to add the support for our sound card." >=20 > [...] >=20 > To sum up: > You only added support for your card but not the required sound(4) > driver, so it could not work. >=20 > Marc > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 17:23:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BFA16A41F for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:23:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9C143D53 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:23:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7THN3WC027609; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:23:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7THN3Gp002490; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:23:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j7THN37x002489; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:23:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:23:03 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: fww@ieee.org Message-ID: <20050829172303.GF595@gothic.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: fww@ieee.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20050829155939.GC595@gothic.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix for Section 7.2.1.1 - Soundblaster 16 driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:23:12 -0000 On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 12:46:14PM -0400, Fred Wheeler wrote: > Marc is correct that my previous post makes little sense and section > and section 7.2.1.1 is good as it is. I was trying to recall what I > did a couple of days ago and by mistake I focused on 7.2.1.1 when my > suggestion really applies to 7.2.1. (That's why I was mixing up > loader.conf and kernel config file syntax.) > > Section 7.2.1 explains how to use > > # kldload snd_emu10k1 > > on the command line or put > > snd_emu10k1_load="YES" > > in /boot/loader.conf. > > I think this needs to be > > # kldload sound > # kldload snd_emu10k1 > No, since when you do a kldload snd_emu10k1, it also loads sound. You can check it with a kldstat. > and > > sound_load="YES" > snd_emu10k1_load="YES" > snd_emu10k1_load="YES" is the only needed line. > However - I'm not 100% sure this is correct - so this should only be > added if someone else knows that this is an obvious omission. I'll > carefully verify this if needed, but will not be able to get back to > the machine for two weeks. What I do know for sure is that > > snd_sbc_load="YES" > Could you do a simple test: Use of snd_sbc_load="YES" and then do a kldstat and post the result. > did not work for me (sbc0 card found, but /dev/sndstat listed no > installed devices), but > > snd_driver_load="YES" > > worked (snd0 shows up in dmesg and audio works great). What is the output of cat /dev/sndstat What are the revelant lines from dmesg? > > While 7.2.1.1 seems complete I think 7.2.1 implies that only the > driver for the specific card is needed and does not mention the > generic audio driver. > These both sections are correct. But please try the tests I mentioned above, I suspect another problem... Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 18:20:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8DB16A41F for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:20:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fred.wheeler@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CAE543D46 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:20:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fred.wheeler@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i27so629268wxd for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:20:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=joXNNbD6oLKdU4KF5zB+4NI2b8sXHgirbR64ekv1A4xmcJb2kiicQFF9DbsUJaoLstWnwG3QbgqHq+JvYj3PwNdGnxcZ0v7JIXbcp1eHjDSorcQpNIbqyWpwPJwCkITxduh4zxIStKYqVXEqToaKEarNff64tgRaQ0iZDSzksZs= Received: by 10.70.22.10 with SMTP id 10mr103099wxv; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.45.12 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:20:09 -0400 From: Fred Wheeler To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050829172303.GF595@gothic.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050829155939.GC595@gothic.blackend.org> <20050829172303.GF595@gothic.blackend.org> Subject: Re: Fix for Section 7.2.1.1 - Soundblaster 16 driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fww@ieee.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:20:17 -0000 Thanks for the explanation. I will run these tests and post the results. It will have to wait about 2 weeks due to travel plans, but I'll reply to these messages. Fred Wheeler On 8/29/05, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 12:46:14PM -0400, Fred Wheeler wrote: > > Marc is correct that my previous post makes little sense and section > > and section 7.2.1.1 is good as it is. I was trying to recall what I > > did a couple of days ago and by mistake I focused on 7.2.1.1 when my > > suggestion really applies to 7.2.1. (That's why I was mixing up > > loader.conf and kernel config file syntax.) > > > > Section 7.2.1 explains how to use > > > > # kldload snd_emu10k1 > > > > on the command line or put > > > > snd_emu10k1_load=3D"YES" > > > > in /boot/loader.conf. > > > > I think this needs to be > > > > # kldload sound > > # kldload snd_emu10k1 > > >=20 > No, since when you do a kldload snd_emu10k1, it also loads sound. > You can check it with a kldstat. >=20 > > and > > > > sound_load=3D"YES" > > snd_emu10k1_load=3D"YES" > > >=20 > snd_emu10k1_load=3D"YES" is the only needed line. >=20 > > However - I'm not 100% sure this is correct - so this should only be > > added if someone else knows that this is an obvious omission. I'll > > carefully verify this if needed, but will not be able to get back to > > the machine for two weeks. What I do know for sure is that > > > > snd_sbc_load=3D"YES" > > >=20 > Could you do a simple test: >=20 > Use of snd_sbc_load=3D"YES" and then do a kldstat and post the result. >=20 > > did not work for me (sbc0 card found, but /dev/sndstat listed no > > installed devices), but > > > > snd_driver_load=3D"YES" > > > > worked (snd0 shows up in dmesg and audio works great). >=20 > What is the output of > cat /dev/sndstat >=20 > What are the revelant lines from dmesg? >=20 > > > > While 7.2.1.1 seems complete I think 7.2.1 implies that only the > > driver for the specific card is needed and does not mention the > > generic audio driver. > > >=20 > These both sections are correct. > But please try the tests I mentioned above, I suspect another problem... >=20 > Marc > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 09:24:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FE116A41F for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:24:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: from av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C209943D48 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:24:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 38D8338004; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:24:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A4B37FEE for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:24:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from t4o55p72.telia.com (t4o55p72.telia.com [62.20.171.192]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8147A37E4E for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:24:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Joel Dahl To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:21:23 +0200 Message-Id: <1125393683.572.7.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Contributors article cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: joel@automatvapen.se List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:24:04 -0000 I'm about to move the following guys from the Developers section to the Development Team Alumni in the contributors article: stephane 2002 - 2005 viny 2004 - 2005 arr 2001 - 2005 flathill 1998 - 2005 sada 1998 - 2005 dan 1999 - 2004 mini 2002 - 2004 dcs 1999 - 2004 rpratt 2001 - 2004 tomsoft 2000 - 2004 chm 2000 - 2004 emoore 2002 - 2004 orion 2001 - 2004 logo 2001 - 2004 wjv 2001 - 2004 alex 2000 - 2004 taoka 1999 - 2004 patrick 2000 - 2004 cwt 1997 - 2003 jim 1999 - 2003 furuta 2000 - 2003 zarzycki 2001 - 2003 bean 2000 - 2003 mb 2000 - 2003 rnordier 1998 - 2003 tshiozak 2001 - 2003 rv 2000 - 2001 ...but: A. Is there someone that you would like to keep as a developer? B. Are the years correct? C. Would you like to add someone to the list? D. I need years for the following committers: paul x - 2005 smace x - 2004 lars x - 2004 uhclem x - 2003 cshumway x - x -- Joel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 09:50:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80E616A433 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:50:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC52143D53 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:50:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7U9oQMP002728 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:50:26 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7U9oQ2H002727; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:50:26 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:50:26 GMT Message-Id: <200508300950.j7U9oQ2H002727@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: "Julien Gabel" Cc: Subject: Re: docs/85355: [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the described connector in the Handbook (serial). X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Julien Gabel List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:50:28 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/85355; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Julien Gabel" To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: "Yar Tikhiy" , bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/85355: [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the described connector in the Handbook (serial). Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:48:35 +0200 (CEST) ------=_20050830114835_68297 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >> It might be reasonable to tell that in general, a null-modem cable >> is for connecting a DTE directly to another DTE. AFAIK, null-modem >> cables can be constructed for synchronous comms, too. Then, the >> topic can be narrowed down to async comms. > I doubt if Julien wants to do more rewrites on the section. But I > can't resist replying anyway; maybe Yar wants to rewrite it later. In fact i don't really want to do a rewrite of this particular section, especially since i don't have a _good_ knowledge on this topic. The purpose of the initial PR was to correct what seems to be an error in the proposed table (and eventually a pointer to more information), based on a very recent experience to get a trace after a panic via a serial console... and so a null-modem cable. > It probably should have some of the cable stuff from the "Serial > Ports" section which says that a null-modem is AKA DTE-to-DTE cable > and what DTE is, eg, a computer. And terminals traditionally have > included teletypes and printers. (Once there were no CRTs or LCDs.) >> To me, www.hardwarebook.net doen't seem the definite resource. >> IMHO, if the topic is rather wide, the reader should better be >> hinted to do a (re)search on the Net instead of pointed to a single >> resource, which is likely to become incomplete, outdated, or down. > I was thinking the same things. Ok. Is it worth to mention a specialized book ("RS-232 Made Easy", for example) or not? >> We may show two or three different designs in the handbook if we >> can tell the reader about their merits. The problem with the design >> currently in the handbook is that it is erroneous *and* bogus. I'd >> suggest adding another row to the table so that it becomes evident >> that DTR on this side is connected to DSR+DCD on the other side >> while DTR on the other side is connected to DSR+DCD on this side. > The Note below the pin-out is supposed to make it evident, and with > the Note the design is symmetric. I tend to think the note is ok here, too. 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Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:08:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: from av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9CA43D48 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:08:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: by av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 097A737E9F; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:05:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D0937E69 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:05:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from t3o55p27.telia.com (t3o55p27.telia.com [62.20.171.27]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282B737E47 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:08:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Joel Dahl To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1125393683.572.7.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> References: <1125393683.572.7.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:07:40 +0200 Message-Id: <1125396460.572.9.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Contributors article cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: joel@automatvapen.se List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:08:57 -0000 On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 11:21 +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > uhclem x - 2003 uhclem 1995 - 2003 -- Joel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 10:16:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A6B16A41F for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:16:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [69.50.233.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A8B43D53 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:16:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id BE03B1CE53; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:16:27 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Joel Dahl Message-ID: <20050830101627.GB20599@freebsdmall.com> References: <1125393683.572.7.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1125393683.572.7.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Contributors article cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:16:28 -0000 On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 11:21:23AM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > bean 2000 - 2003 Did nothing during this time. It took us three years before realizing this person had no intention of working on freebsd. > A. Is there someone that you would like to keep as a developer? > B. Are the years correct? > C. Would you like to add someone to the list? > D. I need years for the following committers: > > paul x - 2005 >From the very beginning. I'd put 1993 unless someone else has a better year. > smace x - 2004 > lars x - 2004 > uhclem x - 2003 > cshumway x - x Was Chris Shumway ever a committer? I know he was on the admin team, but I don't think he was ever a committer. He was a great tech support employee at Walnut Creek CDROM, BSDi, and then Wind River, but his activity trailed off after the lay-offs at Wind River in late 2001. His years would roughly be 2000-2001. - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 10:18:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E789F16A41F for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:18:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [69.50.233.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541C343D4C for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:18:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 418AF1CE56; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:18:53 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050830101853.GC20599@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Subject: Two new articles for review X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:18:54 -0000 I've committed two new articles to the tree and both could use some review and improvement before we announce them to the world. If you have time, please take a look and see what improvements you can make : Argentina.com Case Study : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/casestudy-argentina.com/ Writing a GEOM Class : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/geom-class/ - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 10:53:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D770B16A41F for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:53:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: from av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6953943D45 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:53:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: by av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 022AA37EED; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:53:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD67D37EED; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:53:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from t9o55p10.telia.com (t9o55p10.telia.com [81.225.221.10]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC1B37E48; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:53:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Joel Dahl To: Murray Stokely In-Reply-To: <20050830101627.GB20599@freebsdmall.com> References: <1125393683.572.7.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20050830101627.GB20599@freebsdmall.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:50:45 +0200 Message-Id: <1125399045.572.23.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Contributors article cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: joel@automatvapen.se List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:53:27 -0000 On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 03:16 -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 11:21:23AM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > > bean 2000 - 2003 > > Did nothing during this time. It took us three years before realizing > this person had no intention of working on freebsd. Hm, let's remove her from this article then. > Was Chris Shumway ever a committer? I know he was on the admin team, > but I don't think he was ever a committer. > > He was a great tech support employee at Walnut Creek CDROM, BSDi, and > then Wind River, but his activity trailed off after the lay-offs at > Wind River in late 2001. > > His years would roughly be 2000-2001. I glanced at some CVS logs, and he was active (doing account creations etc.) during 2002 , so I'd say 2000-2002. This is the current list: paul 1993 - 2005 stephane 2002 - 2005 viny 2004 - 2005 arr 2001 - 2005 flathill 1998 - 2005 sada 1998 - 2005 dan 1999 - 2004 mini 2002 - 2004 dcs 1999 - 2004 rpratt 2001 - 2004 tomsoft 2000 - 2004 chm 2000 - 2004 emoore 2002 - 2004 orion 2001 - 2004 logo 2001 - 2004 wjv 2001 - 2004 alex 2000 - 2004 taoka 1999 - 2004 patrick 2000 - 2004 cwt 1997 - 2003 jim 1999 - 2003 furuta 2000 - 2003 zarzycki 2001 - 2003 bean 2000 - 2003 mb 2000 - 2003 rnordier 1998 - 2003 tshiozak 2001 - 2003 uhclem 1995 - 2003 cshumway 2000 - 2002 rv 2000 - 2001 smace x - 2004 lars x - 2004 I can't find any good information about Scott Mace and Lars Fredriksen, so I'd appreciate some help. -- Joel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 11:06:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4A316A41F for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:06:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011EF43D53 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:06:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j7UB6FXe006622; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:06:15 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7UB6ECZ080711; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:06:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j7UB6CB8080710; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:06:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.daedalusnetworks.priv: keramida set sender to keramida@freebsd.org using -f Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:06:11 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Murray Stokely Message-ID: <20050830110611.GA80696@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050830101853.GC20599@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050830101853.GC20599@freebsdmall.com> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Two new articles for review X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:06:19 -0000 On 2005-08-30 03:18, Murray Stokely wrote: > I've committed two new articles to the tree and both could use some > review and improvement before we announce them to the world. If you > have time, please take a look and see what improvements you can make : > > Argentina.com Case Study : > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/casestudy-argentina.com/ Some proposed fixes attached. Very nice case study :) %%% Index: article.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/casestudy-argentina.com/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 article.sgml --- article.sgml 30 Aug 2005 00:00:25 -0000 1.1 +++ article.sgml 30 Aug 2005 11:04:48 -0000 @@ -38,7 +38,7 @@ Overview Argentina.Com is an Argentine ISP with a small infrastructure - of fewer than 15 employees and whose primary source of income + of fewer than 15 employees, whose primary source of income originates in the free dialup business. It began operation in the year 2000 with barely one server for mail and chat. @@ -52,8 +52,8 @@ factor of 10 with regard to the mail user base. Our competitors in the Argentine market of free dialup include - Fullzero which is owned by the Clarin Media Group, Alternativa - Gratis, and Tutopia which is funded by IFX and promoted by + Fullzero, which is owned by the Clarin Media Group, Alternativa + Gratis, and Tutopia, which is funded by IFX and promoted by Hotmail. Some of these large corporate competitors started their free dialup business with multi-million dollar investments and aggressive television and Internet ad campaigns. Argentina.Com @@ -61,8 +61,9 @@ It has climbed to the fourth position and to an 8% market share during the last two years thanks to superior quality of service. - In Argentina and Latin America in general people who don't - have computers at home go to so called Locutorios + People who live in Argentina and other parts of Latin America do not + always have computers or Internet access at home. As a result, they + frequently use one of so called Locutorios (Internet Centers), where for a few pesos they can use a computer connected to the Internet and usually read and write emails through popular webmails like Hotmail, Yahoo or @@ -80,8 +81,8 @@ The main challenge for Argentina.Com is to achieve a dialup uptime of at least 99.95%, or less than 5 hours yearly downtime. Due to the high rotation and volatility in this - business, things have to work correctly so the user doesn't switch - -voluntarily or not- the dialup provider or the number he calls to + business, things have to work correctly so the user does not + switch—voluntarily or not—the dialup provider or the number he calls to connect. The dialup business involves a support structure to deal with the Telcos about telephony problems and quality of service, plus a technical structure where latency and packet-loss should be @@ -104,12 +105,12 @@ made it necessary to design the new system with at least 300M user disk space, but at a cost lower than 3 US dollars per GB with some degree of redundancy. Bear in mind that rackmountable hardware is - hard to find in Argentina, and is between 30 and 40% more + hard to find in Argentina, and is between 30 to 40% more expensive than in the US. Our total budget for equipment - acquisition in two years was 75,000 USD, which is only a fraction + acquisition in two years was $75,000 USD, which is only a fraction of our direct competitors' investments. - With regard to the antispam service, it became necessary to + As part of our antispam service, it became necessary to develop a product that could compete with the systems offered by the big ones. Given the hostile conditions imposed by the existence of spam (dictionary attacks, spams with high degree of @@ -117,11 +118,11 @@ it becomes very difficult to achieve an excellent uptime while repelling attacks. One must also be careful that the user doesn't lose mails because of false positives in the classification - strategy, that he doesn't become flooded with spam or spam - notifications, and dangerous mails don't make it through to his + strategy, that he does not become flooded with spam or spam + notifications, and dangerous mails do not make it through to his mailbox. In addition, the technical infrastructure for spam - classification shouldn't introduce noticeable delays in the - delivery of mails. Finally, the mail system has to be protected + classification should not introduce noticeable delays in the + delivery of messages. Finally, the mail system has to be protected from spammers who might misuse it to send spam. The opensource paradigm tends to require hiring large teams of @@ -135,7 +136,6 @@ Computer Science professionals are hard to find, most of them live and work abroad, while the remaining have stable jobs either at the government or big companies. - @@ -152,7 +152,7 @@ a Megaraid card, but the disk latency was enormous and the mail application never really worked. - The first step depicted towards the "FreeBSD solution" + The first step depicted towards the FreeBSD solution consisted in migrating this hardware and commercial software to FreeBSD 4.8 with Linux emulation. @@ -179,8 +179,8 @@ double-Xeons and a few double-Opterons to be co-located in the Datacenters where we have dialup and hosting operation contracts. All of them run FreeBSD, ranging from 4.8 (there are - a couple with two years uptime and zero trouble) til currently - 6.0-BETA2. + a couple with two years uptime and zero trouble) to fairly recent + versions, like 6.0-BETA2. The general policy for the operating system is to try to bring all servers periodically to the stable code branch by @@ -202,16 +202,15 @@ and making it possible to deal with TTLs between 60 and 600 seconds to have quicker response in case of trouble. - Second step was to deploy two more boxes of the same class, - again in different Datacenters, to only deal with Radius and + Our second step was to deploy two more boxes of the same class, + again in different datacenters, to only deal with Radius and recursive DNS. The Network Access Servers at the Telcos were configured to send Radius Authorization and Accounting to those - servers, and to assign these recursive DNSs to dialup users. + servers, and to assign these recursive DNS servers to dialup users. - The third golden rule never to put SMTP + The third step was to apply the golden rule: never to SMTP incoming and outgoing in the same servers. We deployed separate FreeBSD boxes with postfix for incoming and outgoing mail. - @@ -238,14 +237,14 @@ defined a few spam levels going from the least to the most tolerant, each one with cutoff or discard levels. Every email with a score below the one associated with the selected spam - tolerance goes to the user's Inbox. Emails between this level - and the cutoff level go to a user's folder named Spam, and those + tolerance goes to the user's Inbox. Emails between this level + and the cutoff level go to a user's folder named Spam, and those above the cutoff level get discarded because it's a very obvious spam. For the sake of simplicity, we transparently associated - the use of the Address Book with the antispam system, so that + the use of the Address Book with the antispam system, so that every personal contact gets automatically whitelisted. - With the introduction of Spamassassin 3.x, the DNS traffic + With the introduction of Spamassassin 3.x, the DNS traffic to query global blacklists grew considerably, so we signed agreements with SpamCop, Spamhaus and SURBL to install public mirrors of their databases in our FreeBSD equipment. Thanks to @@ -256,9 +255,9 @@ soon as we started building a new Cyrus-Imap back-end with MySQL authentication, we needed to multiplex incoming mail to users in both old and new maildrop formats. Finally, we managed to - migrate hundreds of thousands of mailspools to the new Cyrus - architecture using a great tool named imapsync, which is - directly installable from ports. We also put perdition, a POP3 + migrate hundreds of thousands of mailspools to the new Cyrus architecture using a great tool named + mail/imapsync, which is directly installable from ports. We also put + mail/perdition, a POP3 and IMAP proxy, in the middle to assure a transparent migration and distribution of mailboxes across several servers. Briefly, all information of where a user's maildrop is located resides in @@ -270,17 +269,17 @@ biggest are Pentium IV with 4G of RAM and 3ware cards in chassis with 12 hotswappable bays, organized in 3 RAID-5 units of 1 Terabyte each. The 3ware software sends you en email whenever - the RAID is degraded -mostly because of a failing disk- and lets + the RAID is degraded—mostly because of a failing disk—and lets you rebuild the RAID with everything up and running. We use - smartmontools in the cases where we have less redundancy, to + sysutils/smartmontools in the cases where we have less redundancy, to have immediate alerts of disks with temperature problems or failing selftests. As webmail software, we chose a commercial product named Atmail, which is available with perl sources and utilizes - mod_perl. Under FreeBSD it's extremely easy to deal with perl + www/mod_perl. Under FreeBSD it's extremely easy to deal with perl modules, you don't even need to use the CPAN shell, you just - have to choose the right port and run "make install". After + have to choose the right port and run make install. After several months of integration work, we integrated the Client-only version of Atmail that talks IMAP with our back-ends. We had to modify some parts of the code to adapt the @@ -296,7 +295,7 @@ With the adoption of FreeBSD, there was almost no additional effort necessary to setup a working Apache, PHP and MySQL environment in minutes. Even the upgrades from PHP4 to PHP5 were - painless. The ports system was again extemely useful in these + painless. The ports system was again extremely useful in these cases, and permitted us to do things like compress text and html contents in Apache with just a few lines of documentation. In addition, we have experienced excellent performance and @@ -317,13 +316,11 @@ other fields like hosting for resellers and housing with presence in three Argentine Datacenters. - We offer now also corporate dialup for roaming users in - Argentina and Peru thanks to our presence and contracts with most + Now, we also offer corporate dialup for roaming users in + Argentina and Peru, thanks to our presence and contracts with most Telcos. Among our indirect customers, there are major American companies like Ford, Exxon and Reuters. We now run the free dialup business in Brazil, Chile, Colombia and Panama as well. - - %%% From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 11:39:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2084216A41F for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:39:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz [195.122.204.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357BD43D45 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:39:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pav.hide.vol.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7UBdP8U039834 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:39:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by pav.hide.vol.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j7UBdPcV039833 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:39:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: pav.hide.vol.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-l6A0sgRaruYbBs6Q1YiU" Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:39:24 +0200 Message-Id: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: Subject: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:39:28 -0000 --=-l6A0sgRaruYbBs6Q1YiU Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey folks, ceri suggested I bring this question to the wider auditorium: Why we do still stick with jade, when better faster happier openjade is available? If it's purely historical sentiment, isn't it time for a global switch to openjade? --=20 Pav Lucistnik The Linimon's Rule: The More You Close, The More Will Come --=-l6A0sgRaruYbBs6Q1YiU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDFEVsntdYP8FOsoIRAqGWAKC0Ya4qja6oOAyHnm15baGSw7v4igCePUwA 5Yt+4MKex0X4I2UkICHSKpk= =X6lx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-l6A0sgRaruYbBs6Q1YiU-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 11:48:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F5916A41F for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:48:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ale@FreeBSD.org) Received: from andxor.it (relay.andxor.it [195.223.2.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5910843D48 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:48:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ale@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 62518 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2005 11:48:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.5?) (192.168.2.5) by andxor.it with SMTP; 30 Aug 2005 11:48:00 -0000 Message-ID: <4314476F.2070903@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:47:59 +0200 From: Alex Dupre User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050829) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pav@FreeBSD.org References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> In-Reply-To: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:48:03 -0000 Pav Lucistnik wrote: > Why we do still stick with jade, when better faster happier openjade is > available? Really dunno. > If it's purely historical sentiment, isn't it time for a > global switch to openjade? I agree. -- Alex Dupre From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 11:59:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803AC16A41F for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:59:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B863143D48 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:59:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7UBxH2v043083; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:59:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7UBxHBC001395; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:59:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j7UBxGsv001394; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:59:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:59:16 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Joel Dahl Message-ID: <20050830115916.GA598@gothic.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: Joel Dahl , Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <1125393683.572.7.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20050830101627.GB20599@freebsdmall.com> <1125399045.572.23.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1125399045.572.23.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Murray Stokely Subject: Re: Contributors article cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:59:22 -0000 On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 12:50:45PM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 03:16 -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 11:21:23AM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > > > bean 2000 - 2003 > > > > Did nothing during this time. It took us three years before realizing > > this person had no intention of working on freebsd. > > Hm, let's remove her from this article then. > [...] I'd even wonder if it worth to add persons that did not commit more than, let's say, 20 times on 2-3 years. The aim is to have a list of real developers (by "real" I mean persons who really contributed to FreeBSD) for the "Development Team Alumni." Well I'm not sure it's a good idea, anyway :) On a same manner (i.e. cleanup of old committers) we should maybe remove "useless" pgpkeys from the Handbook. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 13:14:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649F316A41F; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:14:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: from av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE20843D55; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:14:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id E6B9B37E82; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:14:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A5837E44; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:14:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from t11o55p29.telia.com (t11o55p29.telia.com [81.225.222.29]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63AD37E47; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:14:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Joel Dahl To: Marc Fonvieille In-Reply-To: <20050830115916.GA598@gothic.blackend.org> References: <1125393683.572.7.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20050830101627.GB20599@freebsdmall.com> <1125399045.572.23.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20050830115916.GA598@gothic.blackend.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:14:25 +0200 Message-Id: <1125407665.20407.34.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Murray Stokely Subject: Re: Contributors article cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: joel@automatvapen.se List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:14:26 -0000 On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 13:59 +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > I'd even wonder if it worth to add persons that did not commit more > than, let's say, 20 times on 2-3 years. The aim is to have a list of > real developers (by "real" I mean persons who really contributed to > FreeBSD) for the "Development Team Alumni." > Well I'm not sure it's a good idea, anyway :) First, I'd like to bring the developers section into shape, and after that we can work on removing people from the Development Team Alumni (as in people who hasn't committed enough). I'm sure we can remove A LOT more people from the developers section though, since many haven't committed anything in years, but they are still listed in various access files (like access.unclassified). I'll commit what I have today (move people to the Dev Alumni + a few extra fixes), but I'm not sure what to do with these two: FreeBSD Java™ Project Patrick S. Gardella XFree86 Project, Inc. Liaison Rich Murphey Both patrick and rich have handed in their commit bits. Should I mark these spots with "seat open" or should I remove both seats completely? > On a same manner (i.e. cleanup of old committers) we should maybe > remove "useless" pgpkeys from the Handbook. I'll have a look, if time permits. (Sorry if something looks strange, I wrote this _really_ fast. :) -- Joel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 13:25:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8006C16A41F; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:25:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB62B43D45; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:25:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7UDPS3T044566; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:25:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7UDPSUL001601; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:25:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j7UDPSsN001600; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:25:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:25:28 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Joel Dahl Message-ID: <20050830132528.GC598@gothic.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: Joel Dahl , Marc Fonvieille , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Murray Stokely References: <1125393683.572.7.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20050830101627.GB20599@freebsdmall.com> <1125399045.572.23.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20050830115916.GA598@gothic.blackend.org> <1125407665.20407.34.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1125407665.20407.34.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Murray Stokely Subject: Re: Contributors article cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:25:34 -0000 On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 03:14:25PM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 13:59 +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > I'd even wonder if it worth to add persons that did not commit more > > than, let's say, 20 times on 2-3 years. The aim is to have a list of > > real developers (by "real" I mean persons who really contributed to > > FreeBSD) for the "Development Team Alumni." > > Well I'm not sure it's a good idea, anyway :) > > First, I'd like to bring the developers section into shape, and after > that we can work on removing people from the Development Team Alumni (as > in people who hasn't committed enough). > > I'm sure we can remove A LOT more people from the developers section > though, since many haven't committed anything in years, but they are > still listed in various access files (like access.unclassified). > > I'll commit what I have today (move people to the Dev Alumni + a few > extra fixes), but I'm not sure what to do with these two: > > FreeBSD Java? Project > Patrick S. Gardella > [...] should be Greg Lewis (glewis@) now (I'm not sure). > XFree86 Project, Inc. Liaison > Rich Murphey > Dejan Lesjak (lesi@) ? Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 15:10:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4628216A41F for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:10:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E676A43D49 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:10:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7UFAD60050922 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:10:13 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7UFADd8050921; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:10:13 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:10:13 GMT Message-Id: <200508301510.j7UFADd8050921@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: garys@opusnet.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Cc: Subject: Re: docs/85355: [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the described connector in the Handbook (serial). X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Gary W. Swearingen" List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:10:14 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/85355; it has been noted by GNATS. From: garys@opusnet.com (Gary W. Swearingen) To: jpeg@thilelli.net Cc: "Yar Tikhiy" , bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/85355: [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the described connector in the Handbook (serial). Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 08:01:44 -0700 "Julien Gabel" writes: > Ok. Is it worth to mention a specialized book ("RS-232 Made Easy", > for example) or not? I first wrote "not". Too few people could find the old book in time for their need. But it does have the important benefit of giving readers some reason to select the alternate design and thus justify the added paragraph's existance and discourage it's removal. See below. > Note: there are two versions of the patch. One with a reference to > the "RS-232 Made Easy" reference book, one without it. The first two paragraphs look OK to me, as-is. But what you copied into the last para from my informal comments could be improved. For example, I was wrong to have "generic null-modem"; there is no such thing. I'll also comment on the first two paras, for kicks. + If you prefer making your own cables (for quality purpose for + example), you can construct a null-modem cable for use with terminals. I would omit the (...); else, use "(for quality purposes, for example)" or "(e.g., for quality purposes)"). On second though, I would change it to simply "You can [...] with many serial devices". + DB-25 connector. A warning though: the standard also calls for a I would omit "A warning though:" or at least "though". + straight-through pin 1 to pin 1 protective ground IIRC, that should be "", or something like that, so it could, for example, be rendered into italics. For the record: If this gets overhauled later, it should get a 9-pin version, which is more common these days (and which doesn't even have a protective ground pin). Also: The design(s) _could_ be presented once in terms of signal names (eg, SG), and then the association of signals with pins given for 25-pin and 9-pin connectors. + If the proposed design seems to be the most popular, others tend + to prefer a generic null-modem design like that, except it has pins 4 + and 5 going to pin 8 and vice versa. The proposed design seems to be the most popular. In one variation (explained in the book RS-232 Made Easy) the note doesn't apply and at each end pins 4 and 5 connect only to each other and to pin 8 at the other end. The few who want to look for the book can start with a WWW search. Maybe someone can double-check my "replacement explanation". The book's diagram is something like this: 1 -- 1 (No need to mention further, IMO) 7 -- 7 2 -- 3 3 -- 2 4+5 -- 8 8 -- 4+5 6 -- 20 20 -- 6 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 15:54:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC8F16A41F; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:54:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DC543D4C; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:54:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id E61B6A5A; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:54:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:54:24 -0500 To: Joel Dahl Message-ID: <20050830155424.GB17119@soaustin.net> References: <1125393683.572.7.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20050830101627.GB20599@freebsdmall.com> <1125399045.572.23.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20050830115916.GA598@gothic.blackend.org> <1125407665.20407.34.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1125407665.20407.34.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Murray Stokely Subject: Re: Contributors article cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:54:26 -0000 On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 03:14:25PM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > I'm sure we can remove A LOT more people from the developers section > though, since many haven't committed anything in years, but they are > still listed in various access files (like access.unclassified). IIRC, access.unclassified is an artifact of a CVS reorganization and should go away. > I'll commit what I have today (move people to the Dev Alumni + a few > extra fixes), but I'm not sure what to do with these two: > > FreeBSD Java? Project > Patrick S. Gardella The freebsd-java mailing list and its readers have been filling this role for quite some time. > XFree86 Project, Inc. Liaison > Rich Murphey I'm not sure it's necessary to list the various liasons as 'seats'. If someone volunteers to fill that role to another project, that's great, but the FreeBSD project seems to be able to make progress with or without such things. Whether more would be a better thing, is a different discussion I guess. mcl From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 16:53:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDB716A41F; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:53:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) Received: from opusnet.com (mail.opusnet.com [209.210.200.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F9143D45; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:53:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) Received: from localhost.localhost [70.98.246.232] by opusnet.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id AEE13AC400DE; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:52:49 -0700 Received: from localhost.localhost (localhost.localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localhost (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7UGrsKO085780; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:53:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localhost (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j7UGrjil085779; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:53:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <20050830101853.GC20599@freebsdmall.com> <20050830110611.GA80696@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> From: garys@opusnet.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 09:53:45 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20050830110611.GA80696@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> (Giorgos Keramidas's message of "Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:06:11 +0300") Message-ID: <8bek8bs6w6.k8b@mail.opusnet.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.17 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Murray Stokely Subject: Re: Two new articles for review X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:53:03 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas writes: > It has climbed to the fourth position and to an 8% market share > during the last two years thanks to superior quality of service. Probably more common: "to fourth position". > - In Argentina and Latin America in general people who don't > - have computers at home go to so called Locutorios > + People who live in Argentina and other parts of Latin America do not > + always have computers or Internet access at home. As a result, they > + frequently use one of so called Locutorios Changes the author's meaning too much, IMO. But I don't know when "open season" begins with articles. Also, my dictionary says that one should either use 'so-called some_noun' (with a hyphen) or just '"some_noun"' (with double quotes). Also, it's got too much or too little. One of these should do: use a so-called Locutorio use one of the so-called Locutorios > connect. The dialup business involves a support structure to deal > with the Telcos about telephony problems and quality of service, > plus a technical structure where latency and packet-loss should be Unless it's standard jargon or something, the hyphen should be a space. > @@ -104,12 +105,12 @@ > made it necessary to design the new system with at least 300M user "300 MB" (I hope :) > disk space, but at a cost lower than 3 US dollars per GB with some > degree of redundancy. Bear in mind that rackmountable hardware is Me and "aspell" suggest "rack-mountable". > - hard to find in Argentina, and is between 30 and 40% more > + hard to find in Argentina, and is between 30 to 40% more Sorry, it's "between 30 and 40" or "30 to 40". > expensive than in the US. Our total budget for equipment > - acquisition in two years was 75,000 USD, which is only a fraction > + acquisition in two years was $75,000 USD, which is only a fraction > of our direct competitors' investments. Omit the "$", IMO. But "USD" was too short for a basic Google check. > - With regard to the antispam service, it became necessary to > + As part of our antispam service, it became necessary to > develop a product that could compete with the systems offered by > the big ones. Given the hostile conditions imposed by the > existence of spam (dictionary attacks, spams with high degree of > @@ -117,11 +118,11 @@ > it becomes very difficult to achieve an excellent uptime while > repelling attacks. One must also be careful that the user doesn't > lose mails because of false positives in the classification "mails" is rather rare. Either "mail" or "messages" or both. That's enough. I think I should be doing this differently (if at all) and I have a headache. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 19:05:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDCB16A41F; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:05:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@freebsd.org) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983C043D5C; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:05:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by caelis.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582B9358C53; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:05:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org ([217.148.169.59]) by localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13024-08; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:05:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.2.125] (home.evilcoder.org [195.64.94.120]) by caelis.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D38358C52; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:05:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4314AE1F.7000706@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:06:07 +0200 From: Remko Lodder User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.5 (Macintosh/20050711) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pav@FreeBSD.org References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> In-Reply-To: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by the elvandar.org maildomain Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: remko@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:05:07 -0000 Pav Lucistnik wrote: > Hey folks, > > ceri suggested I bring this question to the wider auditorium: > > Why we do still stick with jade, when better faster happier openjade is > available? If it's purely historical sentiment, isn't it time for a > global switch to openjade? > Not sure why we stick with them, but i am in favor of well supported and good software, if that is openjade, go for it :) -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder ** remko@elvandar.org FreeBSD ** remko@FreeBSD.org Reporter DSINET ** remko@DSINet.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 19:36:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787BC16A41F; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:36:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (vlsi00.si.noda.tus.ac.jp [133.31.130.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71DC43D46; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:36:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p13123-adsau14honb8-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [220.106.49.123]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j7UJa6Vg047145; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 04:36:08 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j7UJZtWn071019; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 04:35:55 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 04:35:16 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20050831.043516.71548826.hrs@allbsd.org> To: pav@FreeBSD.org, murray@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2.52 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Wed_Aug_31_04_35_16_2005_766)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.2, clamav-milter version 0.86 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:36:10 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Wed_Aug_31_04_35_16_2005_766)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pav Lucistnik wrote in <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz>: pa> Why we do still stick with jade, when better faster happier openjade is pa> available? If it's purely historical sentiment, isn't it time for a pa> global switch to openjade? IIRC, Murray said that OpenJade had a problem on rendering the handbook in printable format some years ago. Murray, is it correct? If so, do you remember what the problem is? If there is no longer the problem, I agree with switch to OpenJade. -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Wed_Aug_31_04_35_16_2005_766)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDFLT3TyzT2CeTzy0RAi6OAJ9P+INlZk+gd6Iw4KClRb5tA+qeMQCcDBRK UbBlVRKDQB5P1ICdg3WxdMY= =dVbi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Wed_Aug_31_04_35_16_2005_766)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 19:41:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D581216A41F; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:41:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [69.50.233.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78E743D45; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:41:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 926F61CE53; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:41:54 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Hiroki Sato Message-ID: <20050830194154.GD35225@freebsdmall.com> References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050831.043516.71548826.hrs@allbsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050831.043516.71548826.hrs@allbsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, pav@FreeBSD.org, murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:41:55 -0000 On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 04:35:16AM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: > Pav Lucistnik wrote > in <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz>: > > pa> Why we do still stick with jade, when better faster happier openjade is > pa> available? If it's purely historical sentiment, isn't it time for a > pa> global switch to openjade? > > IIRC, Murray said that OpenJade had a problem on rendering > the handbook in printable format some years ago. > Murray, is it correct? If so, do you remember what the problem is? > If there is no longer the problem, I agree with switch to OpenJade. There have historically been lots of problems with OpenJade. Whoever wants to make the change should verify that PDF versions of all of our documents in the tree can build with OpenJade (and with/without index, etc..). If it works, great. Just because it is on a sourceforge page doesn't make it better maintained. Hardly anyone was working on it when I had a commit bit to the openjade sourceforge project. - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 20:28:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9C816A41F; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:28:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from hood.oook.cz (hood.oook.cz [212.27.205.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4703843D49; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:28:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ikaros.oook.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hood.oook.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7UKSEvZ069913 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:28:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by ikaros.oook.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j7UKS6vD069883; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:28:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: ikaros.oook.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Murray Stokely In-Reply-To: <20050830194154.GD35225@freebsdmall.com> References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050831.043516.71548826.hrs@allbsd.org> <20050830194154.GD35225@freebsdmall.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-I2+fwzpRF9hiLNg+WsXq" Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:28:04 +0200 Message-Id: <1125433684.62512.2.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:28:34 -0000 --=-I2+fwzpRF9hiLNg+WsXq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Murray Stokely p=ED=B9e v =FAt 30. 08. 2005 v 12:41 -0700: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 04:35:16AM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: > > Pav Lucistnik wrote > > in <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz>: > >=20 > > pa> Why we do still stick with jade, when better faster happier openjad= e is > > pa> available? If it's purely historical sentiment, isn't it time for a > > pa> global switch to openjade? > >=20 > > IIRC, Murray said that OpenJade had a problem on rendering > > the handbook in printable format some years ago. > > Murray, is it correct? If so, do you remember what the problem is? > > If there is no longer the problem, I agree with switch to OpenJade. >=20 > There have historically been lots of problems with OpenJade. Whoever > wants to make the change should verify that PDF versions of all of our > documents in the tree can build with OpenJade (and with/without index, > etc..). >=20 > If it works, great. Just because it is on a sourceforge page doesn't > make it better maintained. Hardly anyone was working on it when I had > a commit bit to the openjade sourceforge project. Just tried to build Porter's Handbook into PDF with openjade and jadetex, got 11 pages of garbage. Not good, not at all. --=20 Pav Lucistnik And now something completely different. --=-I2+fwzpRF9hiLNg+WsXq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDFMFUntdYP8FOsoIRArkPAKDKnfCvuhu+34zS2MfliAlDL7eg6ACffUcu j2/JMpIGCjlBm5l4sR48SGU= =+sNW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-I2+fwzpRF9hiLNg+WsXq-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 20:35:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BF716A41F; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:35:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [69.50.233.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3994B43D46; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:35:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 1D7B31CE52; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:35:00 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Pav Lucistnik Message-ID: <20050830203500.GP35225@freebsdmall.com> References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050831.043516.71548826.hrs@allbsd.org> <20050830194154.GD35225@freebsdmall.com> <1125433684.62512.2.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1125433684.62512.2.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:35:00 -0000 BTW, I think a better project would be to convert all of the articles to use XSLT/XSL-FO by default to build PDFs. The articles are much simpler from the build perspective and don't use parameter entities, etc. Getting the articles done would be a step towards converting the rest of the doc tree. - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 21:08:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF1316A41F; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:08:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from hood.oook.cz (hood.oook.cz [212.27.205.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41BA43D46; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:08:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ikaros.oook.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hood.oook.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7UL8WMi082997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:08:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by ikaros.oook.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j7UL8VcO082996; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:08:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: ikaros.oook.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Murray Stokely In-Reply-To: <1125433684.62512.2.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050831.043516.71548826.hrs@allbsd.org> <20050830194154.GD35225@freebsdmall.com> <1125433684.62512.2.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-pggM2hiQgvPoejZqXNjt" Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:08:31 +0200 Message-Id: <1125436111.62512.7.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:08:36 -0000 --=-pggM2hiQgvPoejZqXNjt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pav Lucistnik p=ED=B9e v =FAt 30. 08. 2005 v 22:28 +0200: > Murray Stokely p=ED=B9e v =FAt 30. 08. 2005 v 12:41 -0700: > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 04:35:16AM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: > > > Pav Lucistnik wrote > > > in <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz>: > > >=20 > > > pa> Why we do still stick with jade, when better faster happier openj= ade is > > > pa> available? If it's purely historical sentiment, isn't it time for= a > > > pa> global switch to openjade? > > >=20 > > > IIRC, Murray said that OpenJade had a problem on rendering > > > the handbook in printable format some years ago. > > > Murray, is it correct? If so, do you remember what the problem is? > > > If there is no longer the problem, I agree with switch to OpenJade. > >=20 > > There have historically been lots of problems with OpenJade. Whoever > > wants to make the change should verify that PDF versions of all of our > > documents in the tree can build with OpenJade (and with/without index, > > etc..). > >=20 > > If it works, great. Just because it is on a sourceforge page doesn't > > make it better maintained. Hardly anyone was working on it when I had > > a commit bit to the openjade sourceforge project. >=20 > Just tried to build Porter's Handbook into PDF with openjade and > jadetex, got 11 pages of garbage. Not good, not at all. Correction: I got 11 pages of garbage when working in my locale. When I put LANG=3DC in front of make, it generates pretty nice PDF... Here is the PH generated with openjade+jadetex on amd64: http://raven.oook.cz/ph.pdf Looks good to me. It generates a fair amount of warnings, I don't know if those are normal in jade builds too? --=20 Pav Lucistnik --=-pggM2hiQgvPoejZqXNjt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDFMrPntdYP8FOsoIRAuGoAJ4oybN6CrS9Ua8A2XSTTVnC7R1NZwCfd/u9 esphkFcOtRWCl6tJrTNZc7A= =9qiw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-pggM2hiQgvPoejZqXNjt-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 01:30:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B792F16A420; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:30:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [69.50.233.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD6343D4C; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:30:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 71CC11CE52; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:30:23 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Pav Lucistnik Message-ID: <20050831013023.GE40795@freebsdmall.com> References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050831.043516.71548826.hrs@allbsd.org> <20050830194154.GD35225@freebsdmall.com> <1125433684.62512.2.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <1125436111.62512.7.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1125436111.62512.7.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:30:23 -0000 On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 11:08:31PM +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > Correction: I got 11 pages of garbage when working in my locale. When I > put LANG=C in front of make, it generates pretty nice PDF... > > Here is the PH generated with openjade+jadetex on amd64: > > http://raven.oook.cz/ph.pdf > > Looks good to me. It generates a fair amount of warnings, I don't know > if those are normal in jade builds too? TeX hbox overflow warnings are normal just about anytime you typeset a TeX document. Non-TeX warnings are not normal. - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 06:17:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: docs@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CBE16A41F; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:17:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5992D43D46; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:17:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7V6HWos076327; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:17:32 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7V6HWJM076323; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:17:32 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:17:32 GMT From: Mark Linimon Message-Id: <200508310617.j7V6HWJM076323@freefall.freebsd.org> To: linimon@FreeBSD.org, docs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: standards/78357: getaddrinfo()'s AI_ADDRCONFIG not documented X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:17:32 -0000 Synopsis: getaddrinfo()'s AI_ADDRCONFIG not documented Responsible-Changed-From-To: docs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: linimon Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Aug 31 06:17:08 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: Canonicalize assignment. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=78357 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 06:17:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CBE16A41F; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:17:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5992D43D46; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:17:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7V6HWos076327; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:17:32 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7V6HWJM076323; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:17:32 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:17:32 GMT From: Mark Linimon Message-Id: <200508310617.j7V6HWJM076323@freefall.freebsd.org> To: linimon@FreeBSD.org, docs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: standards/78357: getaddrinfo()'s AI_ADDRCONFIG not documented X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:17:32 -0000 Synopsis: getaddrinfo()'s AI_ADDRCONFIG not documented Responsible-Changed-From-To: docs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: linimon Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Aug 31 06:17:08 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: Canonicalize assignment. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=78357 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 07:54:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352FC16A41F; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:54:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz [195.122.204.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B2C43D49; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:54:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pav.hide.vol.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7V7senS015708; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:54:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by pav.hide.vol.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j7V7sdAR015707; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:54:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: pav.hide.vol.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Murray Stokely In-Reply-To: <20050831013023.GE40795@freebsdmall.com> References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050831.043516.71548826.hrs@allbsd.org> <20050830194154.GD35225@freebsdmall.com> <1125433684.62512.2.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <1125436111.62512.7.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <20050831013023.GE40795@freebsdmall.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-fq+PyZpbTbe5w78pc8o8" Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:54:38 +0200 Message-Id: <1125474878.6784.2.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:54:43 -0000 --=-fq+PyZpbTbe5w78pc8o8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Murray Stokely p=ED=B9e v =FAt 30. 08. 2005 v 18:30 -0700: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 11:08:31PM +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > > Correction: I got 11 pages of garbage when working in my locale. When I > > put LANG=3DC in front of make, it generates pretty nice PDF... > >=20 > > Here is the PH generated with openjade+jadetex on amd64: > >=20 > > http://raven.oook.cz/ph.pdf > >=20 > > Looks good to me. It generates a fair amount of warnings, I don't know > > if those are normal in jade builds too? >=20 > TeX hbox overflow warnings are normal just about anytime you typeset a > TeX document. Non-TeX warnings are not normal. Looking at pass 3, there are fancyfoot warnings about useless option 'E', messages about destinations with same identifier being ignored, and messages about difference of bookmark depth being too big. hyperref warns about invalid tokens and removal of some superscripts. --=20 Pav Lucistnik The Linimon's Rule: The More You Close, The More Will Come --=-fq+PyZpbTbe5w78pc8o8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDFWI+ntdYP8FOsoIRAo1GAKCA1L72ZH7+zd36P+3C1t3UmrHtKgCfbbyD xTuJdlg1QDJWQDuz3N+KYKE= =8zpg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-fq+PyZpbTbe5w78pc8o8-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 08:02:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69E716A41F; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:02:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AA843D49; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:02:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7V82PZx060851; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:02:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7V82Pbf000685; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:02:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j7V82Pa9000684; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:02:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:02:25 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Pav Lucistnik Message-ID: <20050831080225.GB595@gothic.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: Pav Lucistnik , Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , murray@FreeBSD.org References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050831.043516.71548826.hrs@allbsd.org> <20050830194154.GD35225@freebsdmall.com> <1125433684.62512.2.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <1125436111.62512.7.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KsGdsel6WgEHnImy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1125436111.62512.7.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , Murray Stokely , murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:02:27 -0000 --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 11:08:31PM +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: >=20 > Correction: I got 11 pages of garbage when working in my locale. When I > put LANG=3DC in front of make, it generates pretty nice PDF... >=20 > Here is the PH generated with openjade+jadetex on amd64: >=20 > http://raven.oook.cz/ph.pdf > [...] Could you try with a localized (i.e. translated) doc? Marc --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDFWQQzQ9RwE+OdOgRAsAEAKDimpApq6Y7fpIkIe8J8Lm+6YX05ACgjQJo F1Bmi+dGTfXMJW6PLOteBWA= =TOQi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 08:20:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A9C16A41F; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:20:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz [195.122.204.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D430143D45; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:20:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pav.hide.vol.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7V8K0dc052454; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:20:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by pav.hide.vol.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j7V8K0il052453; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:20:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: pav.hide.vol.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Marc Fonvieille In-Reply-To: <20050831080225.GB595@gothic.blackend.org> References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050831.043516.71548826.hrs@allbsd.org> <20050830194154.GD35225@freebsdmall.com> <1125433684.62512.2.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <1125436111.62512.7.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <20050831080225.GB595@gothic.blackend.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-T/cSbw6hHQ4CdTwuYEph" Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:19:59 +0200 Message-Id: <1125476399.6784.8.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , Murray Stokely , murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:20:02 -0000 --=-T/cSbw6hHQ4CdTwuYEph Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marc Fonvieille p=C3=AD=C5=A1e v st 31. 08. 2005 v 10:02 +0200: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 11:08:31PM +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > >=20 > > Correction: I got 11 pages of garbage when working in my locale. When I > > put LANG=3DC in front of make, it generates pretty nice PDF... > >=20 > > Here is the PH generated with openjade+jadetex on amd64: > >=20 > > http://raven.oook.cz/ph.pdf > > > [...] >=20 > Could you try with a localized (i.e. translated) doc? French version of FDP Primer looks fine http://raven.oook.cz/french.pdf Japanese version of PH errors with: ! Package textcomp Error: Symbol \textcurrency not provided by (textcomp) font family phv in TS1 encoding. (textcomp) Default family used instead. l.3409 =C2=A4=C2=BD=C2=A4=C3=AC=C2=A4=C3=87=C2=A4=C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=B2= =C2=B7=C3=A8=C2=A4=C3=87=C2=A4=C2=AD=C2=A4=C3=8A=C2=A4=C2=A4=C2=A4 =C3=A8=C2=A4=C2=A6=C2=A4=C3=8A=C2=BC=C3= =81=C3=8C=C3=A4=C2=A4=C3=8F, \Node% Do I need to install some more fonts or...? --=20 Pav Lucistnik - Hocumms Razor states that the most obvious, though possible not conceviab= le, answer to a problem is most likely the correct one. - unless you are playing zelda. --=-T/cSbw6hHQ4CdTwuYEph Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDFWgvntdYP8FOsoIRAj+0AJ4gnD0u1EKtJOh5kqGy5K4B8q10GACdEclJ psc2alv3T2C5W4CfBRZsb14= =xSXH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-T/cSbw6hHQ4CdTwuYEph-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 10:10:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254AC16A41F for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:10:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E962743D48 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7VAATsQ012073 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:10:29 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7VAAT5R012072; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:10:29 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:10:29 GMT Message-Id: <200508311010.j7VAAT5R012072@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Yar Tikhiy Cc: Subject: Re: docs/85355: [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the described connector in the Handbook (serial). X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Yar Tikhiy List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:10:30 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/85355; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Yar Tikhiy To: Julien Gabel Cc: "Gary W. Swearingen" , bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/85355: [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the described connector in the Handbook (serial). Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:03:11 +0400 On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 11:48:35AM +0200, Julien Gabel wrote: > > >> We may show two or three different designs in the handbook if we > >> can tell the reader about their merits. The problem with the design > >> currently in the handbook is that it is erroneous *and* bogus. I'd > >> suggest adding another row to the table so that it becomes evident > >> that DTR on this side is connected to DSR+DCD on the other side > >> while DTR on the other side is connected to DSR+DCD on this side. > > > The Note below the pin-out is supposed to make it evident, and with > > the Note the design is symmetric. > > I tend to think the note is ok here, too. I'd really like to see the design scheme all-sufficient without the note. The note may clarify the scheme and help the reader to comprehend it, but the note should by no means be crucial to follow the scheme. It is the matter of adding a mere row to the table: ... DTR 20 connects to 6 DSR DTR 20 connects to 8 DCD DSR 6 connects to 20 DTR DCD 8 connects to 20 DTR The reader is free either to install an internal strap between pins 6 and 8 in each connector or to use two pairs of wires to connect pins 6 and 8 on each side to the single pin 20 on the other side. -- Yar From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 10:14:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4918E16A41F for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:14:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamie@bishopston.net) Received: from pacha.mail.bishopston.net (pacha.mail.bishopston.net [66.221.209.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EA243D45 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:14:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamie@bishopston.net) X-Catflap-Envelope-From: Received: from catflap.bishopston.net (jamie@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by catflap.bishopston.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7VAEY6Y003105; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:14:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.bishopston.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by catflap.bishopston.net (8.13.4/8.12.9/Submit) id j7VAEYtn003104; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:14:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:14:34 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Jones Message-Id: <200508311014.j7VAEYtn003104@catflap.bishopston.net> To: doc@freebsd.org X-Scanned-By: milter-sender/0.62.837 (localhost [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:14:34 +0100 Cc: jamie@bishopston.net Subject: Problem with porters handbook : 3.6 Submitting the port X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:14:36 -0000 It says: "Next, simply include the output of shar `find port_dir` in a bug report and send it with the send-pr(1) program" To me, at least, this isn't clear if this should be `find CATEGORY/PORTNAME` from a cwd of /usr/ports/ or `find PORTNAME` from a cwd of /usr/ports/CATEGORY/ I'm leaning towards the latter - it may not even be relevent, but maybe this could be clarified in the documentation ? Cheers, Jamie From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 10:22:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F8116A41F; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:22:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C16943D48; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:22:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7VAMsn2062670; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:22:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7VAMs4L001054; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:22:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j7VAMrse001053; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:22:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:22:53 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Pav Lucistnik Message-ID: <20050831102253.GD595@gothic.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: Pav Lucistnik , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , Murray Stokely References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050831.043516.71548826.hrs@allbsd.org> <20050830194154.GD35225@freebsdmall.com> <1125433684.62512.2.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <1125436111.62512.7.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <20050831080225.GB595@gothic.blackend.org> <1125476399.6784.8.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1125476399.6784.8.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , Murray Stokely Subject: Re: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:22:58 -0000 --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:19:59AM +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > Marc Fonvieille p=ED??e v st 31. 08. 2005 v 10:02 +0200: > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 11:08:31PM +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > > >=20 > > > Correction: I got 11 pages of garbage when working in my locale. When= I > > > put LANG=3DC in front of make, it generates pretty nice PDF... > > >=20 > > > Here is the PH generated with openjade+jadetex on amd64: > > >=20 > > > http://raven.oook.cz/ph.pdf > > > > > [...] > >=20 > > Could you try with a localized (i.e. translated) doc? >=20 > French version of FDP Primer looks fine > http://raven.oook.cz/french.pdf > Indeed, seems Ok. > Japanese version of PH errors with: >=20 > ! Package textcomp Error: Symbol \textcurrency not provided by > (textcomp) font family phv in TS1 encoding. > (textcomp) Default family used instead. >=20 > l.3409 =A4=BD=A4=EC=A4=C7=A4=E2=B2=F2=B7=E8=A4=C7=A4=AD=A4=CA=A4=A4= =A4 > =E8=A4=A6=A4=CA=BC=C1=CC=E4=A4=CF, \Nod= e% >=20 > Do I need to install some more fonts or...? >=20 Weird, but I don't know how openjade deals with teTeX bits, etc. I may be wrong but it may work with ISO8859-1 encodings only, could you try with another non-ISO8859-1 document from doc/, something using ISO8859-2 and/or ISO8859-9, etc. ? Marc --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDFYT8zQ9RwE+OdOgRAsknAJ9NGWgwkBL92BMmYTdtKMmSln5ThgCcC1Ag 24Fm83tML4B5DL2Brjt+IhI= =N5g+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 11:20:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B383316A41F for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:20:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz [195.122.204.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1301143D45 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:20:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pav.hide.vol.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7VBK5Yp066109; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:20:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by pav.hide.vol.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j7VBK4pp066108; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:20:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: pav.hide.vol.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Jamie Jones In-Reply-To: <200508311014.j7VAEYtn003104@catflap.bishopston.net> References: <200508311014.j7VAEYtn003104@catflap.bishopston.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-2y6t70/2J+Sf9GVdbCGi" Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:20:03 +0200 Message-Id: <1125487203.6784.15.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problem with porters handbook : 3.6 Submitting the port X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:20:26 -0000 --=-2y6t70/2J+Sf9GVdbCGi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jamie Jones p=ED=B9e v st 31. 08. 2005 v 11:14 +0100: > It says: >=20 > "Next, simply include the output of shar `find port_dir` in a bug report > and send it with the send-pr(1) program" >=20 > To me, at least, this isn't clear if this should be `find CATEGORY/PORTNA= ME` > from a cwd of /usr/ports/ or `find PORTNAME` from a cwd of /usr/ports/CAT= EGORY/ >=20 > I'm leaning towards the latter - it may not even be relevent, but maybe > this could be clarified in the documentation ? Can be both, and, preferred is `find PORTNAME` in /home/jamie/myports :) --=20 Pav Lucistnik The Phase Spider. A spider that never seems quite there. --=-2y6t70/2J+Sf9GVdbCGi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDFZJjntdYP8FOsoIRArpiAJ94DnNX4QtcRcKCrp4TcCGColXU8ACeNQRl i8vH1HwPz8qHnaf7NO5ElSE= =0Ph6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-2y6t70/2J+Sf9GVdbCGi-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 11:23:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2EE16A41F; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:23:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz [195.122.204.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A2643D48; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:23:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pav.hide.vol.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7VBN69W066147; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:23:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by pav.hide.vol.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j7VBN6BK066146; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:23:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: pav.hide.vol.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Marc Fonvieille In-Reply-To: <20050831102253.GD595@gothic.blackend.org> References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050831.043516.71548826.hrs@allbsd.org> <20050830194154.GD35225@freebsdmall.com> <1125433684.62512.2.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <1125436111.62512.7.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <20050831080225.GB595@gothic.blackend.org> <1125476399.6784.8.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050831102253.GD595@gothic.blackend.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-DVatTlsIu+EtNx+Zrvxy" Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:23:05 +0200 Message-Id: <1125487385.6784.17.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , Murray Stokely Subject: Re: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:23:08 -0000 --=-DVatTlsIu+EtNx+Zrvxy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marc Fonvieille p=C3=AD=C5=A1e v st 31. 08. 2005 v 12:22 +0200: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:19:59AM +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > > Marc Fonvieille p=C3=AD??e v st 31. 08. 2005 v 10:02 +0200: > > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 11:08:31PM +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > > > >=20 > > > > Correction: I got 11 pages of garbage when working in my locale. Wh= en I > > > > put LANG=3DC in front of make, it generates pretty nice PDF... > > > >=20 > > > > Here is the PH generated with openjade+jadetex on amd64: > > > >=20 > > > > http://raven.oook.cz/ph.pdf > > > > > > > [...] > > >=20 > > > Could you try with a localized (i.e. translated) doc? > >=20 > > Japanese version of PH errors with: > >=20 > > ! Package textcomp Error: Symbol \textcurrency not provided by > > (textcomp) font family phv in TS1 encoding. > > (textcomp) Default family used instead. > >=20 > > l.3409 =C2=A4=C2=BD=C2=A4=C3=AC=C2=A4=C3=87=C2=A4=C3=A2=C2=B2=C3= =B2=C2=B7=C3=A8=C2=A4=C3=87=C2=A4=C2=AD=C2=A4=C3=8A=C2=A4=C2=A4=C2=A4 > > =C3=A8=C2=A4=C2=A6=C2=A4=C3=8A=C2=BC= =C3=81=C3=8C=C3=A4=C2=A4=C3=8F, \Node% > >=20 > > Do I need to install some more fonts or...? > >=20 >=20 > Weird, but I don't know how openjade deals with teTeX bits, etc. >=20 > I may be wrong but it may work with ISO8859-1 encodings only, could you > try with another non-ISO8859-1 document from doc/, something using > ISO8859-2 and/or ISO8859-9, etc. ? http://raven.oook.cz/greek.pdf I'm quite sure this is not correct either. --=20 Pav Lucistnik A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --=-DVatTlsIu+EtNx+Zrvxy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDFZMZntdYP8FOsoIRAhm8AJ9i419HwLmzP99RlMJa+9Le/MI3ogCgmb/P +NSUy+V3C9luK4RnCAqs7r8= =6/BL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-DVatTlsIu+EtNx+Zrvxy-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 11:44:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C3816A41F; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:44:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: from eddie.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1285243D49; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:44:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: from zaphod.nitro.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eddie.nitro.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BF5119CCD; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:44:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: by zaphod.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 3000) id EE86311A5F; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:12:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:12:29 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Pav Lucistnik Message-ID: <20050831091228.GA948@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050831.043516.71548826.hrs@allbsd.org> <20050830194154.GD35225@freebsdmall.com> <1125433684.62512.2.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <1125436111.62512.7.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <20050831080225.GB595@gothic.blackend.org> <1125476399.6784.8.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1125476399.6784.8.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , Murray Stokely , Marc Fonvieille , murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:44:16 -0000 --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2005.08.31 10:19:59 +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > Marc Fonvieille p=ED??e v st 31. 08. 2005 v 10:02 +0200: > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 11:08:31PM +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > > >=20 > > > Correction: I got 11 pages of garbage when working in my locale. When= I > > > put LANG=3DC in front of make, it generates pretty nice PDF... > > >=20 > > > Here is the PH generated with openjade+jadetex on amd64: > > >=20 > > > http://raven.oook.cz/ph.pdf > > > > > [...] > >=20 > > Could you try with a localized (i.e. translated) doc? >=20 > French version of FDP Primer looks fine > http://raven.oook.cz/french.pdf >=20 > Japanese version of PH errors with: >=20 > ! Package textcomp Error: Symbol \textcurrency not provided by > (textcomp) font family phv in TS1 encoding. > (textcomp) Default family used instead. >=20 > l.3409 =A4=BD=A4=EC=A4=C7=A4=E2=B2=F2=B7=E8=A4=C7=A4=AD=A4=CA=A4=A4= =A4 > =E8=A4=A6=A4=CA=BC=C1=CC=E4=A4=CF, \Nod= e% >=20 > Do I need to install some more fonts or...? It's known broken - it's the same error thats preventing the "FTP docs" from building. BTW. you can compare with build logs on builder.freebsd.org. See http://people.freebsd.org/~simon/doc-buildstatus.html for information (yes, I messed up the script so that page does not get updated at the moment...). --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDFXR8h9pcDSc1mlERAng0AKCDGWsCoZhA3GamlZI2VPyD32cXlQCcD305 8N/oA82CbPU4Ccs3zl+LVGc= =0JZ5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 12:02:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8752516A420; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:02:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CBE43D6D; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:02:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j7VC2b6r020950; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:02:38 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7VC2aSG047878; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:02:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j7VC2afO047877; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:02:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.daedalusnetworks.priv: keramida set sender to keramida@ceid.upatras.gr using -f Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:02:35 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Pav Lucistnik , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , Murray Stokely Message-ID: <20050831120234.GG47091@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050831.043516.71548826.hrs@allbsd.org> <20050830194154.GD35225@freebsdmall.com> <1125433684.62512.2.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <1125436111.62512.7.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <20050831080225.GB595@gothic.blackend.org> <1125476399.6784.8.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050831102253.GD595@gothic.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050831102253.GD595@gothic.blackend.org> Cc: Subject: Re: abandoning jade X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:02:48 -0000 On 2005-08-31 12:22, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > Weird, but I don't know how openjade deals with teTeX bits, etc. > > I may be wrong but it may work with ISO8859-1 encodings only, could you > try with another non-ISO8859-1 document from doc/, something using > ISO8859-2 and/or ISO8859-9, etc. ? ISO-8859-7 is broken even with jade, so don't worry too much about that. I don't know enough about the internals of jade or openjade to find out why, but this is mostly what prevents building doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7 docs in PS, PDF or other TeX-dependent formats. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 14:19:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961D816A41F; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:19:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [69.50.233.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369FE43D46; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:19:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 266BC1CE53; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:19:25 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Pav Lucistnik Message-ID: <20050831141925.GA62428@freebsdmall.com> References: <1125401964.4959.28.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050831.043516.71548826.hrs@allbsd.org> <20050830194154.GD35225@freebsdmall.com> <1125433684.62512.2.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <1125436111.62512.7.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <20050831013023.GE40795@freebsdmall.com> <1125474878.6784.2.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1125474878.6784.2.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato , murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: learning about jade (was Re: abandoning jade) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:19:25 -0000 On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 09:54:38AM +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > > TeX hbox overflow warnings are normal just about anytime you typeset a > > TeX document. Non-TeX warnings are not normal. > > Looking at pass 3, there are fancyfoot warnings about useless option > 'E', messages about destinations with same identifier being ignored, and > messages about difference of bookmark depth being too big. hyperref > warns about invalid tokens and removal of some superscripts. Please just compare all these openjade outputs against the jade output and your questions will be answered. - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 15:21:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427BC16A41F for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:21:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zretzlaff@global-com.com) Received: from mail.global-com.com (ns2.global-com.com [216.146.70.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890F143D45 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:21:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zretzlaff@global-com.com) Received: from exchange5.global-com.com (exchange5.global-com.com [172.16.0.61]) by mail.global-com.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j7VFLvm10840 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:21:57 -0500 Received: by exchange5.global-com.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id <1V6J3H0M>; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:21:06 -0500 Message-ID: <910CA2569B9DD51197C200D0B788331C061144FE@exchange5.global-com.com> From: Zach Retzlaff To: "'doc@FreeBSD.org'" Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:21:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Possible formatting Error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:21:59 -0000 Hey guys/gals, In the Preface, under the subsection "Conventions used in this book - Typographic Conventions," it appears that the example for "Monospace" is italicised, not monospaced text. A small thing, just thought I would let you know. Thanks for the awesome documentation though! Zach Retzlaff Internet Tech Support Rep Globalcom, Inc. USA 333 W. Wacker Dr, Ste 1500 Chicago, IL 60606 Direct: 312.895.9255 Fax: 312.893.0248 Email: zretzlaff@global-com.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 16:21:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794FE16A41F for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:21:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zretzlaff@global-com.com) Received: from mail.global-com.com (ns2.global-com.com [216.146.70.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD35643D53 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:21:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zretzlaff@global-com.com) Received: from exchange5.global-com.com (exchange5.global-com.com [172.16.0.61]) by mail.global-com.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j7VGLdm12911; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:21:39 -0500 Received: by exchange5.global-com.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id <1V6J32C3>; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:20:48 -0500 Message-ID: <910CA2569B9DD51197C200D0B788331C06114503@exchange5.global-com.com> From: Zach Retzlaff To: "'Giorgos Keramidas'" Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:20:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Cc: "'doc@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Possible formatting Error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:21:43 -0000 Hmmm... sorry about that. I was referring to the handbook. -----Original Message----- From: Giorgos Keramidas [mailto:keramida@ceid.upatras.gr] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:16 AM To: Zach Retzlaff Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible formatting Error? On 2005-08-31 10:21, Zach Retzlaff wrote: > Hey guys/gals, > > In the Preface, under the subsection "Conventions used in this book - > Typographic Conventions," it appears that the example for "Monospace" is > italicised, not monospaced text. A small thing, just thought I would let > you know. Since the doc/ repository contains dozens of articles and several books, it would help if you told us which one you refer to :) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 17:14:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C65716A41F for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:14:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deboot1@yahoo.com) Received: from web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0340343D45 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:14:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deboot1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 68752 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Aug 2005 17:14:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eeZHMvUHyAmtTU/JK3/QAjzbCRl5xwKSUfiUL00qC/T5ahLJMpcBoQnKjN/IM0aqLymkIP83TEHdGvFnPm2erP7KRYJcrHkS+lrlfoTcS2cEZGXqg8HmMeUjtZkqx5hehLeJf7cLhfaCO4W4rmrPFHzc5mpu3zUL0usgmSB33gY= ; Message-ID: <20050831171434.68750.qmail@web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.186.252.98] by web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:14:34 PDT Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:14:34 -0700 (PDT) From: DEBOOT DEBOOT To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Request to remove archived email entry. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:14:35 -0000 To Whom it may concern I am writing to politely request that the email at the link listed below be removed from your archive. The email I sent to jobs@freebsd.org in the mid 90's was only intended for FreeBSD hiring personell and contains confidential information such as my home phone number. Please let me know if it will be possible for you to remove this email from your archive? I would also prefer that this email not be archived as well. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=0+0+archive/1997/freebsd-jobs/19970720.freebsd-jobs Sincereley, Dan Bootier --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 18:02:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DB416A41F for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:02:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D4143D45 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:01:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j7VI1qhW007989; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:01:53 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7VI1qo5088894; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:01:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j7VI1pAr088893; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:01:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.daedalusnetworks.priv: keramida set sender to keramida@ceid.upatras.gr using -f Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:01:51 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Zach Retzlaff Message-ID: <20050831180151.GB88787@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <910CA2569B9DD51197C200D0B788331C06114503@exchange5.global-com.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <910CA2569B9DD51197C200D0B788331C06114503@exchange5.global-com.com> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible formatting Error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:02:00 -0000 On 2005-08-31 11:20, Zach Retzlaff wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas [mailto:keramida@ceid.upatras.gr] wrote: >>On 2005-08-31 10:21, Zach Retzlaff wrote: >>> Hey guys/gals, >>> >>> In the Preface, under the subsection "Conventions used in this book - >>> Typographic Conventions," it appears that the example for "Monospace" is >>> italicised, not monospaced text. A small thing, just thought I would let >>> you know. >> >> Since the doc/ repository contains dozens of articles and several books, >> it would help if you told us which one you refer to :) > > Hmmm... sorry about that. I was referring to the handbook. Ah, I see it now. This is a stylesheet bug. I'll try to find out why it happens, and see if I can fix it later tonight. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 23:54:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7F116A420; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:54:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FD543D45; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:54:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (garys@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7VNsC6Q022126; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:54:12 GMT (envelope-from garys@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from garys@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7VNsCv0022122; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:54:12 GMT (envelope-from garys) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:54:12 GMT From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-Id: <200508312354.j7VNsCv0022122@freefall.freebsd.org> To: garys@opusnet.com, garys@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, garys@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/85065: [patch] builtin(1) manpage Aug'05 cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:54:12 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] builtin(1) manpage Aug'05 cleanup State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: garys State-Changed-When: Wed Aug 31 23:52:38 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: Patch is ready for discussion with mentor. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->garys Responsible-Changed-By: garys Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Aug 31 23:52:38 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=85065 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 14:40:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B797A16A41F for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:40:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B34B43D53 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:40:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j81EeGrG037363 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:40:16 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j81EeG6L037362; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:40:16 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:40:16 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200509011440.j81EeG6L037362@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Daniel Gerzo Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01C016A41F for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:37:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@rulez.sk) Received: from mail.rulez.sk (DaEmoN.RuLeZ.sK [84.16.32.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C898E43D4C for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:37:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@rulez.sk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7F11CC77 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 16:37:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix, from userid 0) id 265D21CC73; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 16:36:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20050901143659.265D21CC73@mail.rulez.sk> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 16:36:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Daniel Gerzo To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Subject: docs/85572: Typo in the handbook's Permissions section X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 14:40:17 -0000 >Number: 85572 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Typo in the handbook's Permissions section >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 01 14:40:15 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Daniel Gerzo >Release: FreeBSD 5.4 i386 >Organization: rulez.sk >Environment: System: FreeBSD daemon.rulez.sk FreeBSD #2: Fri May 27 23:16:31 CEST 2005 danger@daemon.rulez.sk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/daemon i386 >Description: While I was translating the Unix Basics section of the Handbook, I've found a typo in the Permissions section of this chapter. Well, there's a following sentence: "These file flags add an additional level of control over files, helping to ensure that in some cases not even the root can remove or files." Notice the word "or" at the end of this sentece. This does not really make sence and it seems like somebody forgot to add some word, or added one extra word. >How-To-Repeat: check out this link: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/permissions.html >Fix: Since there are to possibilities how this typo was created, I found two ways how to fix this. Here are the diffs: --- chapter.sgml.diff begins here --- --- chapter.sgml.orig Thu Sep 1 16:25:46 2005 +++ chapter.sgml Thu Sep 1 16:26:29 2005 @@ -591,7 +591,7 @@ These file flags add an additional level of control over files, helping to ensure that in some cases not even the - root can remove or files. + root can remove files. File flags are altered by using the &man.chflags.1; utility, using a simple interface. For example, to enable the system --- chapter.sgml.diff ends here --- or --- chapter.sgml.diff2 begins here --- --- chapter.sgml.orig Thu Sep 1 16:25:46 2005 +++ chapter.sgml Thu Sep 1 16:27:02 2005 @@ -591,7 +591,7 @@ These file flags add an additional level of control over files, helping to ensure that in some cases not even the - root can remove or files. + root can remove or edit files. File flags are altered by using the &man.chflags.1; utility, using a simple interface. For example, to enable the system --- chapter.sgml.diff2 ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 14:50:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3235616A434 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:50:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040A143D46 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:50:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j81EoAQj037741 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:50:10 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j81EoALk037733; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:50:10 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:50:10 GMT Message-Id: <200509011450.j81EoALk037733@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Subject: Re: docs/85572: Typo in the handbook's Permissions section X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 14:50:11 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/85572; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Daniel Gerzo Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/85572: Typo in the handbook's Permissions section Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 17:49:34 +0300 On 2005-09-01 16:36, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > --- chapter.sgml.diff2 begins here --- > --- chapter.sgml.orig Thu Sep 1 16:25:46 2005 > +++ chapter.sgml Thu Sep 1 16:27:02 2005 > @@ -591,7 +591,7 @@ > > These file flags add an additional level of control over > files, helping to ensure that in some cases not even the > - root can remove or files. > + root can remove or edit files. > > File flags are altered by using the &man.chflags.1; utility, > using a simple interface. For example, to enable the system "or alter", perhaps? From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 15:57:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC0716A41F; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:57:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FE143D48; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:57:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (keramida@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j81FvHR8045194; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:57:17 GMT (envelope-from keramida@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j81FvHVu045190; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:57:17 GMT (envelope-from keramida) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:57:17 GMT From: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <200509011557.j81FvHVu045190@freefall.freebsd.org> To: danger@rulez.sk, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/85572: Typo in the handbook's Permissions section X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:57:18 -0000 Synopsis: Typo in the handbook's Permissions section State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Thu Sep 1 15:56:41 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: Committed with "alter" after submitter's approval of the wording change. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Sep 1 15:56:41 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=85572 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 17:09:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DC616A41F; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 17:09:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F4F43D46; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 17:09:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (garys@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j81H930b057831; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 17:09:03 GMT (envelope-from garys@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from garys@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j81H939K057827; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 17:09:03 GMT (envelope-from garys) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 17:09:03 GMT From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-Id: <200509011709.j81H939K057827@freefall.freebsd.org> To: garys@opusnet.com, garys@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, garys@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/84101: mt(1) manpage has erroneous synopsis, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:09:03 -0000 Synopsis: mt(1) manpage has erroneous synopsis, etc. State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: garys State-Changed-When: Thu Sep 1 17:07:44 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: PR has patch. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->garys Responsible-Changed-By: garys Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Sep 1 17:07:44 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll handle it with mentor. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=84101 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 14:59:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379D816A41F; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:59:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A8E43D49; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:59:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (garys@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j82Ex9iX032507; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:59:09 GMT (envelope-from garys@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from garys@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j82Ex9LQ032503; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:59:09 GMT (envelope-from garys) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:59:09 GMT From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-Id: <200509021459.j82Ex9LQ032503@freefall.freebsd.org> To: garys@opusnet.com, garys@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, garys@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/84266: security(8) manpage should have init(8)'s list of security levels X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:59:10 -0000 Synopsis: security(8) manpage should have init(8)'s list of security levels State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: garys State-Changed-When: Fri Sep 2 14:58:09 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: Patch has been written. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->garys Responsible-Changed-By: garys Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Sep 2 14:58:09 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll work this with mentor. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=84266 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 15:07:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A49816A420; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:07:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F0043D45; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:07:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (garys@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j83F7IUZ045357; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:07:18 GMT (envelope-from garys@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from garys@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j83F7IEC045353; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:07:18 GMT (envelope-from garys) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:07:18 GMT From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-Id: <200509031507.j83F7IEC045353@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jpeg@thilelli.net, garys@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, garys@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/85355: [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the described connector in the Handbook (serial). X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:07:19 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] Error in the pin numbers of the described connector in the Handbook (serial). State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: garys State-Changed-When: Sat Sep 3 15:04:51 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: Problem has been discussed; nearly decided on fix. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->garys Responsible-Changed-By: garys Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Sep 3 15:04:51 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll work with contributor and mentor on this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=85355 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 15:29:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3C016A41F for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:29:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.198.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB3C43D46 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:29:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-24-118-173-219.hsd1.mn.comcast.net[24.118.173.219]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005090315292001400f8iaje>; Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:29:20 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: doc@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 10:29:18 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200509031029.18466.josh@tcbug.org> Cc: Subject: Vanishing PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:29:22 -0000 I did a send-pr about 12 hours ago and it hasn't mailed me back the confirmation thing nor does it show in the open pr list. Am I being too impatient or should I try sending it again? -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel