From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 03:59:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C9C16A4CF for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:59:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE96043D1D for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:59:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from strbenjr@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.102.202?) (strbenjr@69.143.43.222 with plain) by smtp018.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2005 03:59:40 -0000 Message-ID: <41E0AD52.1000905@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:04:34 -0500 From: Ben Hacker Jr User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041221) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org References: <1104702392.745.72131.m12@yahoogroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1104702392.745.72131.m12@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [freebsd-multimedia] Digest Number 1354 X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:59:41 -0000 I use Audacity to create and edit MP3 files. It has been working fine for me. FreeBSD 5.3-Stable freebsd-multimedia@yahoogroups.com wrote: >_______ > >Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:16:39 -0500 > From: John Wilson >Subject: MP3 editing tools > >Hi folks, > >I was wondering if anyone knew of any ports in the ports tree, or otherwise >for that matter, that would allow one to lop off the first few seconds >of an MP3 file... but not touching the file in any other way, as in being >able to do this without having to convert the file to any other format and >then being required to reconvert it back to an MP3. > >I've browsed around the ports tree but have yet to really find anything >that seems appropriate. If someone could possible point me in the right >direction, I'd appreciate it. > >Thanks, >John. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >________________________________________________________________________ > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 21:53:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F7216A4CE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:53:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694F943D1D for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:53:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from fennec.local.lan (unverified [24.119.123.89]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 7030064 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:09:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:52:59 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: multimedia@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050111135259.674e6a35@fennec.local.lan> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 2, First 41, in=81, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.123.89 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Subject: Sound sysctl question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:53:04 -0000 I just noticed a sysctl on this machine I've not seen before, and noticed it is changeable, and was wondering if any one has any opinions on tweaking it and the like. hw.snd.pcm0.ac97rate: 48000 /dev/sndstat pcm0: at io 0xb400, 0xb800 irq 20 bufsz 16384 kld snd_ich (1p/1r/6v channels duplex default) From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 14:42:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35C816A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:42:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 194-185-53-242.f5.ngi.it (194-185-53-242.f5.ngi.it [194.185.53.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F6443D4C for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:42:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@remotelab.org) Received: from einstein.lab (localhost. [127.0.0.1])j0CEgpgi092378 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:42:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mark@remotelab.org) Received: from einstein.lab (localhost.lab [127.0.0.1]) by einstein.lab (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0CEgpbG001305 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:42:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mark@einstein.lab) Received: (from mark@localhost) by einstein.lab (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0CEgpHG001304 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:42:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:42:51 +0100 From: Marco Trentini To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050112144251.GA976@einstein.lab> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD einstein.lab 6.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: some questions about bktr 878 and fxtv X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:42:54 -0000 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi all, I have one winTV hauppauge card but it refuses to work in my freebsd box. The card ships with bt878 chipset but I'm not able to catch out which tuner it has on board (I've tried to disassemble it without result). I live in italy, so the tuner should be a PAL tuner (as reported by the sticker on the card). I've enabled it with bktr_load="YES" in loader.conf in my FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT (firts Jan). The relevant dmesg lines are: bktr_mem: memory holder loaded bktr0: mem 0xd7000000-0xd7000fff irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0 bktr0: [GIANT-LOCKED] bktr0: Hauppauge Model 29440 @ % bktr0: Warning - Unknown Hauppauge Tuner 0x58 bktr0: Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips NTSC tuner. I marvel at the last line (NTSC tuner). So, after I've set sysctl hw.bt848.card=2 (hauppauge card), I've played with hw.bt848.tuner sysctl, trying all PAL value and running: fxtv -inputFormat palbdghi -tunerMode antenna -defaultInput tuner -antennaFreqSet weurope The app runs but I see only fuzzy lines. Any suggestions? In attachment my dmesg.boot. Thanks. -- Marco Trentini mark@remotelab.org http://www.remotelab.org/ --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dmesg.boot" Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Jan 9 14:43:16 CET 2005 root@einstein.lab:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EINSTEIN WARNING: MPSAFE network stack disabled, expect reduced performance. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2500+ (1826.03-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 Features=0x383fbff AMD Features=0xc0400000 real memory = 1073725440 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1037795328 (989 MB) npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pir0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 nvidia0: mem 0xd8000000-0xdfffffff,0xd5000000-0xd5ffffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] bfe0: mem 0xd4800000-0xd4801fff irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0 miibus0: on bfe0 bmtphy0: on miibus0 bmtphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto bfe0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:18:fe:8f:5c bfe0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fwohci0: mem 0xd3800000-0xd3803fff,0xd4000000-0xd40007ff irq 9 at device 11.0 on pci0 fwohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:30:95:26:50:00:a2:d3 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 3 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) pci0: at device 13.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 13.1 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 10 at device 14.0 on pci0 pcm0: uhci0: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 9 at device 16.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ums0: Logitech USB Receiver, rev 1.10/9.10, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. uhci1: port 0xb800-0xb81f irq 9 at device 16.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 9 at device 16.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xd3000000-0xd30000ff irq 9 at device 16.3 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci_pci_attach: companion usb0 ehci_pci_attach: companion usb1 ehci_pci_attach: companion usb2 usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: VIA EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: single transaction translator uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xb000-0xb00f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 17.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 cpu0 on motherboard orm0: at iomem 0xd0000-0xd4fff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 joy0 at port 0x201 on isa0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: ppbus0: PRINTER PJL,MLC,PCL,POSTSCRIPT,PCLXL lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A speaker0: at port 0x61 on isa0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) speaker1: at port 0x61 on isa0 speaker1: Already attached! device_attach: speaker1 attach returned 6 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1826025870 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.333 msec ipfw2 initialized, divert loadable, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to deny, logging limited to 500 packets/entry by default ad0: 78533MB [159560/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 ad1: 39205MB [79656/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA133 ata1-slave: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device acd0: CDRW at ata1-master UDMA33 acd1: DVDROM at ata1-slave UDMA33 ums0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected ums0: detached ums0: Logitech USB Receiver, rev 1.10/9.10, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a WARNING: driver "vmmon" used unreserved major device number 200 vmmon: Module vmmon: registered with major=200 minor=0 tag=$Name: build-570 (3.2.x mvm) $ vmmon: Module vmmon: initialized vmnet1: Ethernet address: 00:bd:ab:3f:00:01 vmmon: Vmx86_ReleaseVM: unlocked pages: 161346, unlocked dirty pages: 126605 Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...done Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop... Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...3 3 3 0 0 0 done All buffers synced. Uptime: 32m27s Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Jan 9 14:43:16 CET 2005 root@einstein.lab:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EINSTEIN WARNING: MPSAFE network stack disabled, expect reduced performance. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2500+ (1826.03-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 Features=0x383fbff AMD Features=0xc0400000 real memory = 1073725440 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1037795328 (989 MB) bktr_mem: memory holder loaded npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pir0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 nvidia0: mem 0xd8000000-0xdfffffff,0xd5000000-0xd5ffffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] bfe0: mem 0xd4800000-0xd4801fff irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0 miibus0: on bfe0 bmtphy0: on miibus0 bmtphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto bfe0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:18:fe:8f:5c bfe0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fwohci0: mem 0xd3800000-0xd3803fff,0xd4000000-0xd40007ff irq 9 at device 11.0 on pci0 fwohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:30:95:26:50:00:a2:d3 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 3 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) bktr0: mem 0xd7000000-0xd7000fff irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0 bktr0: [GIANT-LOCKED] bktr0: Hauppauge Model 29440 @ % bktr0: Warning - Unknown Hauppauge Tuner 0x58 bktr0: Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips NTSC tuner. pci0: at device 13.1 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 10 at device 14.0 on pci0 pcm0: uhci0: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 9 at device 16.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ums0: Logitech USB Receiver, rev 1.10/9.10, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. uhci1: port 0xb800-0xb81f irq 9 at device 16.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 9 at device 16.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xd3000000-0xd30000ff irq 9 at device 16.3 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci_pci_attach: companion usb0 ehci_pci_attach: companion usb1 ehci_pci_attach: companion usb2 usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: VIA EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: single transaction translator uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xb000-0xb00f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 17.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 cpu0 on motherboard orm0: at iomem 0xd0000-0xd4fff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 joy0 at port 0x201 on isa0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: ppbus0: PRINTER PJL,MLC,PCL,POSTSCRIPT,PCLXL lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A speaker0: at port 0x61 on isa0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) speaker1: at port 0x61 on isa0 speaker1: Already attached! device_attach: speaker1 attach returned 6 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1826027410 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.333 msec ipfw2 initialized, divert loadable, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to deny, logging limited to 500 packets/entry by default ad0: 78533MB [159560/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 ad1: 39205MB [79656/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA133 ata1-slave: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device acd0: CDRW at ata1-master UDMA33 acd1: DVDROM at ata1-slave UDMA33 ums0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected ums0: detached ums0: Logitech USB Receiver, rev 1.10/9.10, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 18:38:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2215716A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:38:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dns1.transbay.net (dns1.transbay.net [209.133.53.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07DC43D1F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:38:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from computing@kpfa.org) Received: from [192.168.94.153] (zoc-int-brk27.zocalo.net [157.22.9.14] (may be forged)) by dns1.transbay.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j0CIcqG11250 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:38:52 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Albers Organization: KPFA FM 94.1 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:38:24 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <20050112120059.64E8D16A4D5@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20050112120059.64E8D16A4D5@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501121138.24718.computing@kpfa.org> Subject: Balanced input/output supported by FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:38:53 -0000 Has anyone out there had any good (preferrably flawless) experiences with soundcards with balanced input/output on FreeBSD? If so, model numbers please. (We have been using Mia cards on windows machines, but we need to have high-quality balanced I/O for our FreeBSD servers.) Thanks in advance for any suggestions/advice. Dan. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 20:08:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1475B16A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:08:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.vicor-nb.com (bigwoop.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C9B43D1F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:08:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from elischer.org (julian.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.97]) by mail.vicor-nb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52BF7A403 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:08:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41E583BD.5080900@elischer.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:08:29 -0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030516 X-Accept-Language: en, hu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: audio code maintainers X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:08:30 -0000 Firstly, Who is curently maintaining it? Orion Hodson seems to have become scarce. (If you are reading this Orion and I've just missed you, sorry). I saw cg (Cameron Grant) on the lists the other day, but I am not sure who is currently the contact man for sound. let me know if you know :-) If you want the job, speak up :-) The there is MIDI... Kazuhito HONDA (kazuhito@ph.noda.tus.ac.jp) has been doing some work on the USB audio code and has agreed to act as contact/maintainer for that as it seems to be currently unloved. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 00:25:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC28616A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:25:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kumr.lns.com (kumr.lns.com [63.198.122.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE1643D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:25:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pozar@lns.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (newkumr.lns.com [192.168.100.20]) by kumr.lns.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0D0PhBe054606; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:25:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pozar@lns.com) Message-ID: <41E5C01B.8000809@lns.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:26:03 -0800 From: Tim Pozar User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Albers References: <20050112120059.64E8D16A4D5@hub.freebsd.org> <200501121138.24718.computing@kpfa.org> In-Reply-To: <200501121138.24718.computing@kpfa.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020309030105060400030201" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Balanced input/output supported by FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:25:45 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020309030105060400030201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dan Albers wrote: > Has anyone out there had any good (preferrably flawless) experiences with > soundcards with balanced input/output on FreeBSD? If so, model numbers > please. (We have been using Mia cards on windows machines, but we need to > have high-quality balanced I/O for our FreeBSD servers.) > Thanks in advance for any suggestions/advice. Are you getting into RF issues where you need balanced to take care of it? Else you can continue to use the -10 IHF interfaces on consumer sound cards and put a match box between it and your balanced +4/+8 dBm output. Tim -- 1978 45th Ave / San Francisco CA 94116 / USA // POTS: +1 415 665 3790 GPG Fingerprint: 4821 CFDA 06E7 49F3 BF05 3F02 11E3 390F 8338 5B04 "Be who you are and say what you feel because the people who mind don't matter and the people who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss --------------020309030105060400030201-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 00:35:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A76216A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:35:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dastardly.newsbastards.org.72.27.172.IN-addr.ARPA.NOSPAM.dyndns.dk (84-72-26-34.dclient.hispeed.ch [84.72.26.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B099443D1F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:35:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bounce@NOSPAM.dyndns.dk) Received: from Mail.NOSPAM.DynDNS.dK (ipv6.NOSPAM.dyndns.dk [IPv6:2002:5448:1a22:0:2c0:49ff:fef2:85dc]) (8.13.2/8.11.6-SPAMMERS-DeLiGHt) with ESMTP id j0D0ZZt5034136NO); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:35:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bounce@NOSPAM.dyndns.dk) Received: (from beer@localhost) by Mail.NOSPAM.DynDNS.dK (8.13.2/FNORD) id j0D0ZXnY034135; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:35:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bounce@NOSPAM.dyndns.dk) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:35:34 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200501130035.j0D0ZXnY034135@Mail.NOSPAM.DynDNS.dK> X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.newsbastards.org.72.27.172.IN-addr.A: beer set sender to bounce@NOSPAM.dyndns.dk using -f X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.newsbastards.org.72.27.172.IN-addr.A: Processed from queue /tmp X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.newsbastards.org.72.27.172.IN-addr.A: Processed by beer with -C /etc/mail/sendmail.cf-LOCAL From: Barry Bouwsma References: <20050112120059.64E8D16A4D5@hub.freebsd.org> <200501121138.24718.computing@kpfa.org> To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org cc: Dan Albers Subject: Re: Balanced input/output supported by FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Barry Bouwsma List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:35:43 -0000 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:38:24 -0800, Dan Albers asked: > Has anyone out there had any good (preferrably flawless) experiences with > soundcards with balanced input/output on FreeBSD? If so, model numbers I'm not sure if this would be too far removed from your signal processing and/or needs, but would an S/PDIF solution combined with an external box converting balanced/spdif work for you? This way you would get the immunity to electrical noise and ground loops offered by optical cables, or the ability to run long distances, or whatever is most important from balanced input/output, other than because it's what you have already. Also, the quality of the soundcard audio should no longer depend on its electronics, but that of the external converter, and you'd get better results with, say, a 15-Euro soundcard, as with a much more expensive pro analog card -- provided you had a decent converter. This may not be true for all spdif-enabled cards. As an alternative, would you be able to use a differential/unbalanced converter (active, I would presume) located at your soundcard, and a quality soundcard that's known to be supported (in particular, the noise figures I see from a 1371-based card -- or else 1373, don't remember) are extremely good, and in the past, I've whipped up a low-noise op-amp or two to convert to/from balanced when needed)? If I were to have to set up a sound machine today, I'd use S/PDIF in order to avoid ground loops, that a year or so ago were making me think of adding a differential input to handle an unbalanced audio source with a serious ground loop problem -- probably coax s/pdif because with my hardware, I was getting a weak optical signal on input that was causing audible problems, and while I heard the same on the electrical signal, it was trivial for me to tap into the signal before it was attenuated to consumer levels and eliminate that problem, without needing to build an external box. Said box would be trivial to build too, and should drive longer lengths than toslink optical cables, I would think. This isn't quite a plug-in solution, which may be what you're looking for... > please. (We have been using Mia cards on windows machines, but we need to > have high-quality balanced I/O for our FreeBSD servers.) Have you tried these cards with Linux? There's mention of the codec AK4528 used in those cards, so if they work, that could be a good sign, in that there's a datasheet so that it could be possible to have a FreeBSD driver written. Also, my question would be, what do your FreeBSD servers do? If they are part of the audio chain, you may want to use my earlier suggestions as last resort, as the bulk of supported cards aren't quite up to studio quality, though some of them are quite passable, particularly if the audio gets compressed and limited to hell in the chain. I'm not sure what >16bit >48kHz cards have BSD support, either. While if you're using the FreeBSD boxen to take the final product and blat it over the internet in some compressed lossy format, then I don't see any drawbacks to the presently-supported cards, apart from their unbalanced consumer inputs. Hopefully someone else will provide a real answer with real products. Disclaimer: All my audio tinkering is done as a hobby, where I try to obtain the best results from cheap^H^H^H^H^Haffordable consumer products, so I'm not aware of what is out there, nor how the broadcasting industry has changed in the past 25 years. barry bouwsma From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 00:49:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13EB16A4CE; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:49:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.vicor-nb.com (bigwoop.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F0643D3F; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:49:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from elischer.org (julian.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.97]) by mail.vicor-nb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFB97A44A; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:49:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41E5C599.3040902@elischer.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:49:29 -0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030516 X-Accept-Language: en, hu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrey V. Elsukov" References: <20050113001311.347314b3.butcher@insysnet.ru> In-Reply-To: <20050113001311.347314b3.butcher@insysnet.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pinnacle PCTV TV tuner problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:49:30 -0000 I do not have one of htes. I am just he committer who is committing for people who do work on this driver. I suggest you send your email to multimedia@freebsd.org.. thankyou (I will forward this to them now.) Andrey V. Elsukov wrote: >Hi, Julian, > >Sorry, for my english. :( >I have Pinnacle PCTV Pro TV Tuner. >I cvs'uped last driver for CURRENT. It works, but i can't change >channels. I use fxtv. > >About my system. >OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE >CPU: Athlon XP 1700+ >RAM: 512 MB >Motherboard: Soltek 75FRNL nForce2 with internal AC'97 audio >codec and nVidia MCP Network adapter. >/var/run/dmesg.boot in attached file. > >About problem. >In a boot time for each register: >bktr0: MT2032 write failed (i2c addr 0xc0) >bktr0: MT2032 get register 0 failed >see in dmesg.boot.. > >When i try to change channel in fxtv -> in console: > >Jan 12 23:29:49 butcher kernel: bktr0: PLL didn't lock >Jan 12 23:29:50 butcher kernel: bktr0: setting frequency to 519250000 >Jan 12 23:29:50 butcher kernel: bktr0: MT2032-SetIFFreq: 0x2523860f... >Jan 12 23:29:50 butcher kernel: bktr0: MT2032 write failed (i2c addr >0xc0) Jan 12 23:29:50 butcher kernel: bktr0: MT2032 get register 14 >failed > >i attache /var/log/message. >How i can try? >Big Thanks. > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 19:04:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA9716A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:04:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D045243D69 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:04:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Jan 2005 19:04:43 -0000 Received: from pD95D86A1.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.93.134.161) by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 13 Jan 2005 20:04:43 +0100 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from kiste.my.domain (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0DJ4W0Z035101 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:04:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:04:30 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050113001311.347314b3.butcher@insysnet.ru> <41E5C599.3040902@elischer.org> In-Reply-To: <41E5C599.3040902@elischer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart20475975.gXPqCMm638"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200501132004.31051.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: "Andrey V. Elsukov" cc: Julian Elischer Subject: Re: Pinnacle PCTV TV tuner problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:04:47 -0000 --nextPart20475975.gXPqCMm638 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday, 13. January 2005 00:49, Julian Elischer wrote: > I do not have one of htes. > I am just he committer who is committing for people who do work on this > driver. > I suggest you send your email to multimedia@freebsd.org.. > thankyou > (I will forward this to them now.) Try the patch in PR kern/75831 =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart20475975.gXPqCMm638 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBB5tRPXhc68WspdLARAgjMAKCedFVO8l9XDQCQJ7ON6Zb9vadE6QCdFT8X /Sg7Y6u5+pYyMsKio5mIVkI= =ehDk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart20475975.gXPqCMm638-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 20:32:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDFA16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:32:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.maximustelecom.com (lancerevo.interplusonline.com [69.90.83.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB89543D48 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:32:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabriell@interplusonline.com) Received: from [10.0.0.97] ([69.157.205.18]) (authenticated bits=0) j0DKW2dM068788 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:32:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gabriell@interplusonline.com) Message-ID: <41D5B742.9090205@interplusonline.com> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:32:02 -0500 From: Gabriel Latour User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050110) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/533/Sat Oct 16 21:09:44 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on lancerevo.interplusonline.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: vt8237 chipset & freebsd 5.3 = no audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:32:04 -0000 Hi! I just installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a VIA KM400 based chipset motherboard. The audio is the VT8237 audio chipset. No sound is produced!!! #kldload snd_via8233.ko #cat > /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0xeb00 irq 22 kld snd_via8233 (5p/1r/0v channels duplex default) #dmesg | grep pcm pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcm0: pcm0: detached I tried that hack with no luck: --- sys/dev/sound/pcm/ac97.c.orig Tue Nov 11 23:15:17 2003 +++ sys/dev/sound/pcm/ac97.c Tue Aug 10 23:58:11 2004 @@ -124,6 +124,7 @@ { 0x41445360, 0x00, 0, "AD1885", 0 }, { 0x41445361, 0x00, 0, "AD1886", ad1886_patch }, { 0x41445362, 0x00, 0, "AD1887", 0 }, + { 0x41445368, 0x00, 0, "AD1888", ad198x_patch }, { 0x41445363, 0x00, 0, "AD1886A", 0 }, { 0x41445370, 0x00, 0, "AD1980", ad198x_patch }, { 0x41445372, 0x00, 0, "AD1981A", 0 }, Now can somebody help me? Thanks! -- Gabriel Latour UNIX system administrator www.interplusonline.com www.maximustelecom.com 514-620-9011 ext.102 From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 20:32:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB72B16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:32:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.vicor-nb.com (bigwoop.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE5943D5D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:32:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from elischer.org (julian.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.97]) by mail.vicor-nb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A822F7A403; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:32:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41E6DAE6.8090807@elischer.org> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:32:38 -0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030516 X-Accept-Language: en, hu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Nottebrock References: <20050113001311.347314b3.butcher@insysnet.ru> <41E5C599.3040902@elischer.org> <200501132004.31051.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200501132004.31051.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org cc: "Andrey V. Elsukov" Subject: Re: Pinnacle PCTV TV tuner problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:32:38 -0000 and let us know the result. Michael Nottebrock wrote: >On Thursday, 13. January 2005 00:49, Julian Elischer wrote: > > >>I do not have one of htes. >>I am just he committer who is committing for people who do work on this >>driver. >>I suggest you send your email to multimedia@freebsd.org.. >>thankyou >>(I will forward this to them now.) >> >> > >Try the patch in PR kern/75831 > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 20:47:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8038F16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:47:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.vicor-nb.com (bigwoop.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1283B43D54 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:47:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from elischer.org (julian.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.97]) by mail.vicor-nb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9017A403; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:47:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41E6DE64.50407@elischer.org> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:47:32 -0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030516 X-Accept-Language: en, hu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Nottebrock References: <20050113001311.347314b3.butcher@insysnet.ru> <41E5C599.3040902@elischer.org> <200501132004.31051.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200501132004.31051.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org cc: "Andrey V. Elsukov" Subject: Re: Pinnacle PCTV TV tuner problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:47:34 -0000 Michael Nottebrock wrote: >On Thursday, 13. January 2005 00:49, Julian Elischer wrote: > > >>I do not have one of htes. >>I am just he committer who is committing for people who do work on this >>driver. >>I suggest you send your email to multimedia@freebsd.org.. >>thankyou >>(I will forward this to them now.) >> >> > >Try the patch in PR kern/75831 > will someone who has been working on this let me know what I should commit? > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 21:21:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D4816A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:21:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.dnainternet.net (smtp2.dnainternet.net [62.240.72.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C18243D1D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:21:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from erik.u@dnainternet.net) Received: from b-188-250.dsl.kpy.customers.dnainternet.fi ([212.149.188.250]:56619smtp2.dnainternet.net with ESMTP id S1228790AbVAMVVS (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:21:18 +0200 Message-ID: <41E6E64E.2080902@dnainternet.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:21:18 +0200 From: Erik Udo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050106) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org References: <41D5B742.9090205@interplusonline.com> In-Reply-To: <41D5B742.9090205@interplusonline.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: vt8237 chipset & freebsd 5.3 = no audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:21:21 -0000 Gabriel Latour wrote: > Hi! > > I just installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a VIA KM400 based chipset motherboard. > The audio is the VT8237 audio chipset. > > No sound is produced!!! > > #kldload snd_via8233.ko > > #cat > /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) > Installed devices: > pcm0: at io 0xeb00 irq 22 kld snd_via8233 (5p/1r/0v > channels duplex default) > > #dmesg | grep pcm > pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > pcm0: > pcm0: detached > > I tried that hack with no luck: > > --- sys/dev/sound/pcm/ac97.c.orig Tue Nov 11 23:15:17 2003 > +++ sys/dev/sound/pcm/ac97.c Tue Aug 10 23:58:11 2004 > @@ -124,6 +124,7 @@ > { 0x41445360, 0x00, 0, "AD1885", 0 }, > { 0x41445361, 0x00, 0, "AD1886", ad1886_patch }, > { 0x41445362, 0x00, 0, "AD1887", 0 }, > + { 0x41445368, 0x00, 0, "AD1888", ad198x_patch }, > { 0x41445363, 0x00, 0, "AD1886A", 0 }, > { 0x41445370, 0x00, 0, "AD1980", ad198x_patch }, > { 0x41445372, 0x00, 0, "AD1981A", 0 }, > > Now can somebody help me? > > Thanks! > Shouldn't it be 0x56494170 instead of 0x41445368 on that patch. What does dmesg say after that patch? Is mixer pcm/vol set to 0? From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 23:56:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE90B16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:56:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao06.cox.net (lakermmtao06.cox.net [68.230.240.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4192043D45 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:56:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from dolphin.local.net ([68.14.122.125]) by lakermmtao06.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20050113235654.VMT7687.lakermmtao06.cox.net@dolphin.local.net>; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:56:54 -0500 Received: from dolphin.local.net (localhost.local.net [127.0.0.1]) by dolphin.local.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0DNutvk018982; Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:56:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:56:50 -0600 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Julian Elischer Message-ID: <20050113175650.210e7572@dolphin.local.net> In-Reply-To: <41E583BD.5080900@elischer.org> References: <41E583BD.5080900@elischer.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; amd64-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: audio code maintainers X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:56:58 -0000 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:08:29 -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > Firstly, Who is curently maintaining it? > Orion Hodson seems to have become scarce. > (If you are reading this Orion and I've just missed you, sorry). > I saw cg (Cameron Grant) on the lists the other day, but I > am not sure who is currently the contact man for sound. Cameron will still respond to questions, and I believe he's not totally unwilling to do any work at all, but I think he's adopted more of a back-seat position these days. Which is not to undervalue his great contributions in the past, of course. :-) > let me know if you know :-) > If you want the job, speak up :-) > The there is MIDI... Mat Kanner is supposed to be our MIDI maintainer/developer, but unfortunately, he seems to come and go with uncomfortable frequency. The status of his new MIDI code is still up in the air, even months after his original announcement. I've tried using the last patch set he made available here (from August 2004), but it doesn't apply cleanly under CURRENT, and I've been unable so far to obtain an update from Mat. > Kazuhito HONDA (kazuhito@ph.noda.tus.ac.jp) > has been doing some work on the USB audio code > and has agreed to act as contact/maintainer for that as > it seems to be currently unloved. I would be interested in helping out with the sound subsystem, as it is definitely one of the parts of the system I hold most near and dear (being an amateur musician and hardcore music buff), if someone were willing to mentor me for a while, until I felt secure enough to work on my own. Just let me know if/when/how we might get started. And thanks for bringing this issue to light. It's long overdue. -- Conrad J. Sabatier -- "In Unix veritas" From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 12:26:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC2916A50C for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:26:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41215.mail.yahoo.com (web41215.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB36F43D31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:26:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arne_woerner@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 27661 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2005 12:26:15 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=nGUAHtaGX1iXPgE+t/0jNv3m2WYpPPrwkCdYAXp62o6M2IhdGSiHaiPV1DdWjKPjcPX/Bjy+Bs+RrqHuQwweIZt98GeYLmzQzui4RzvkmmgZ6XHA/pdYr/Q9BiPLLrdl0ikz9Vu6IMKGqdbyyUzPWKPSBUe0s/UwkyibK0QY2sA= ; Message-ID: <20050114122615.27659.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [83.129.197.18] by web41215.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:26:15 PST Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:26:15 -0800 (PST) From: Arne "Wörner" To: Julian Elischer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pinnacle PCTV TV tuner problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:26:16 -0000 Hi! I recommend the new patch by Branko Lancester (PR kern/75831). Furthermore we should solve PR kern/73324 by substituting the line if (subsystem_vendor_id == PCI_VENDOR_PINNACLE_ALT) { by the lines if (subsystem_vendor_id == PCI_VENDOR_PINNACLE_ALT || subsystem_vendor_id == PCI_VENDOR_PINNACLE_NEW) { (Michael and I tested this change). Thank you. Bye Arne __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 15:32:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3603216A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:32:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.maximustelecom.com (lancerevo.interplusonline.com [69.90.83.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDCD43D31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:32:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabriell@interplusonline.com) Received: from [10.0.0.97] ([69.157.205.18]) (authenticated bits=0) j0EFWfdM086398 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:32:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gabriell@interplusonline.com) Message-ID: <41E7E617.4060704@interplusonline.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:32:39 -0500 From: Gabriel Latour User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050110) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org References: <41D5B742.9090205@interplusonline.com> <41E6E64E.2080902@dnainternet.net> In-Reply-To: <41E6E64E.2080902@dnainternet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/533/Sat Oct 16 21:09:44 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on lancerevo.interplusonline.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: vt8237 chipset & freebsd 5.3 = no audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:32:43 -0000 Erik Udo wrote: > Gabriel Latour wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I just installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a VIA KM400 based chipset motherboard. >> The audio is the VT8237 audio chipset. >> >> No sound is produced!!! >> >> #kldload snd_via8233.ko >> >> #cat > /dev/sndstat >> FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) >> Installed devices: >> pcm0: at io 0xeb00 irq 22 kld snd_via8233 (5p/1r/0v >> channels duplex default) >> >> #dmesg | grep pcm >> pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] >> pcm0: >> pcm0: detached >> >> I tried that hack with no luck: >> >> --- sys/dev/sound/pcm/ac97.c.orig Tue Nov 11 23:15:17 2003 >> +++ sys/dev/sound/pcm/ac97.c Tue Aug 10 23:58:11 2004 >> @@ -124,6 +124,7 @@ >> { 0x41445360, 0x00, 0, "AD1885", 0 }, >> { 0x41445361, 0x00, 0, "AD1886", ad1886_patch }, >> { 0x41445362, 0x00, 0, "AD1887", 0 }, >> + { 0x41445368, 0x00, 0, "AD1888", ad198x_patch }, >> { 0x41445363, 0x00, 0, "AD1886A", 0 }, >> { 0x41445370, 0x00, 0, "AD1980", ad198x_patch }, >> { 0x41445372, 0x00, 0, "AD1981A", 0 }, >> >> Now can somebody help me? >> >> Thanks! >> > > Shouldn't it be 0x56494170 instead of 0x41445368 on that patch. > What does dmesg say after that patch? After the patch: #dmesg | grep pcm pcm0: port 0xeb00-0xebff irq 22 at device 17.5 on pci0 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcm0: Is mixer pcm/vol set to 0? #mixer Mixer vol is currently set to 75:75 Mixer pcm is currently set to 75:75 No sound is coming out... -- Gabriel Latour UNIX system administrator www.interplusonline.com www.maximustelecom.com 514-620-9011 ext.102 From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 10:27:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC30B16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:27:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from md.gfk.ru (md.f231.gfk.ru [84.21.231.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EFA43D45 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:27:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Yuriy.Tsibizov@gfk.ru) Received: from dialup-chibis.gfk.ru ([10.0.6.45]) by md.gfk.ru (md.gfk.ru [62.205.179.201]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 34-md50000000397.tmp for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:27:48 +0300 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:27:43 +0300 (MSK) From: Yuriy Tsibizov X-X-Sender: chibis@free.home.local To: multimedia@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050115114447.O39536@free.home.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Processed: md.gfk.ru, Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:27:48 +0300 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 10.0.6.45 X-Return-Path: Yuriy.Tsibizov@gfk.ru X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: RE: audio codec maintainers X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:27:58 -0000 > > Firstly, Who is curently maintaining it? > > Orion Hodson seems to have become scarce. > > (If you are reading this Orion and I've just missed you, sorry). > > I saw cg (Cameron Grant) on the lists the other day, but I > > am not sure who is currently the contact man for sound. > Cameron will still respond to questions, and I believe he's not totally > unwilling to do any work at all, but I think he's adopted more of a > back-seat position these days. Which is not to undervalue his great > contributions in the past, of course. :-) But what happened to his NEWPCM v2? There was p4 server on newpcm.org for this project... > > let me know if you know :-) > > If you want the job, speak up :-) > > The there is MIDI... > Mat Kanner is supposed to be our MIDI maintainer/developer, but > unfortunately, he seems to come and go with uncomfortable frequency. > The status of his new MIDI code is still up in the air, even months > after his original announcement. > I've tried using the last patch set he made available here (from August > 2004), but it doesn't apply cleanly under CURRENT, and I've been unable > so far to obtain an update from Mat. I'm tracking his MIDI driver in patched -CURRENT sources (based on evennewermidi-10jul2004 diff from http://people.freebsd.org/~tanimura/patches/). It works with MIDI device I have - IR reciever in Audigy Platinum box: -- Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT #0: Thu Jan 6 10:18:42 MSK 2005 chibis@free.home.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREE-FAST WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. WARNING: MPSAFE network stack disabled, expect reduced performance. [...] sequencer 0 created scp 0xc1927200 seq_eventthread started emu10kx0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0 midi0: on emu10kx0 midi1: on emu10kx0 pcm0: on emu10kx0 pcm0: emu10kx0: IR MIDI events enabled. --- I've sent my patch (with Audigy MIDI code for emu10k1 driver and some minor fixes) back to Seigo Tanimura in August. Yuriy Tsibizov, http://chibis.persons.gfk.ru/ P.S. I'm not subscribed to list, please CC me on reply. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 18:10:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C16316A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:10:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from deluge.cc.mcgill.ca (deluge.CC.McGill.CA [132.206.27.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863BB43D2F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:10:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mat@cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: from mailscan1.cc.mcgill.ca (mailscan1.CC.McGill.CA [132.216.77.248]) by deluge.cc.mcgill.ca (8.12.11/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j0FIA8eI014089; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from cube.cnd.mcgill.ca (cube.cnd.McGill.CA [132.216.11.165]) j0FI9kQL028812; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:09:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from cube.cnd.mcgill.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by cube.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0FI9kfs012792; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:09:46 -0500 Received: (from mat@localhost) by cube.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0FI9gvm012791; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:09:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:09:42 -0500 From: Mathew Kanner To: Julian Elischer Message-ID: <20050115180942.GA12541@cnd.mcgill.ca> References: <41E583BD.5080900@elischer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E583BD.5080900@elischer.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Organization: I speak for myself, operating in Montreal, CANADA cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: audio code maintainers, A call to arms X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:10:25 -0000 On Jan 12, Julian Elischer wrote: > Firstly, Who is curently maintaining it? > Orion Hodson seems to have become scarce. > (If you are reading this Orion and I've just missed you, sorry). > I saw cg (Cameron Grant) on the lists the other day, but I > am not sure who is currently the contact man for sound. > let me know if you know :-) > If you want the job, speak up :-) > The there is MIDI... > > Kazuhito HONDA (kazuhito@ph.noda.tus.ac.jp) > has been doing some work on the USB audio code > and has agreed to act as contact/maintainer for that as > it seems to be currently unloved. Hi Julian, First, I guess I owe an apology to the list and to freebsd in general for dragging my feet on MIDI. The stunning silence is incredibly demotivating to me. Over the many months think I've had one positive response to my work (it works!) and one negative (does not compile for non-i386, printf qualifiers). I never expected to be in a vacuum. Then again, I'm one of those sensitive types. I'm committed to getting this done, it basically works, but I need to be kicked around when I start loosing momentum. But MIDI isn't FreeBSD problem. We've been stagnant in sound infrastructure, both in the human and software sense. Other projects have continued along without us. We don't have anybody that really understands the sound infrastructure, esp given that locking was an after thought that makes things infinitely more complex. (BTW, Orion gave up his commit bit about a year ago, due to an increase in demand on his time, a baby) To me, the worse aspect is that new people are scared off either by the perceived complexity issues or general unwillingness of the powers that be to accept a new direction. To move forward we need to: - Get a new sound team. I don't know how to go about this, maybe a general call to arms, or an appointment from core or maybe a guillotine backed revolution. - Set a list of priorities and start working on them. I see the major TODO items: - Review this list - Figure out which PR are still applicable, close the rest. - Move forward with features, other projects have far surpassed us. To me the most glaring difference is that we are stuck with a simplistic view of "Mixers" and cannot export the sophisticated controls that present days devices contain. NetBSD, ALSA, that commercial project have all taken this on. We could embellish or just plain drop our mixer support while keeping what was good from newpcm2 - Or, just port the NetBSD sound infrastructure. Sometimes, when I'm depressed, I look into the feasibility of this. So there it is. How wants to be part of freebsd sound? Many open positions, but the pay sucks. --Mat From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 20:58:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1395216A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:58:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A44943D1F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:58:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.local.lan (unverified [24.119.123.89]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 7434934 for multiple; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:04:15 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:57:26 -0600 From: "Zane C. Bowers" To: Mathew Kanner Message-ID: <20050115145726.1bc9a918@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: <20050115180942.GA12541@cnd.mcgill.ca> References: <41E583BD.5080900@elischer.org> <20050115180942.GA12541@cnd.mcgill.ca> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 38, in=69, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.123.89 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net cc: Julian Elischer cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: audio code maintainers, A call to arms X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:58:25 -0000 On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:09:42 -0500 Mathew Kanner wrote: > On Jan 12, Julian Elischer wrote: > > Firstly, Who is curently maintaining it? > > Orion Hodson seems to have become scarce. > > (If you are reading this Orion and I've just missed you, sorry). > > I saw cg (Cameron Grant) on the lists the other day, but I > > am not sure who is currently the contact man for sound. > > let me know if you know :-) > > If you want the job, speak up :-) > > The there is MIDI... > > > > Kazuhito HONDA (kazuhito@ph.noda.tus.ac.jp) > > has been doing some work on the USB audio code > > and has agreed to act as contact/maintainer for that as > > it seems to be currently unloved. > > Hi Julian, > First, I guess I owe an apology to the list and to freebsd in > general for dragging my feet on MIDI. The stunning silence is > incredibly demotivating to me. Over the many months think I've had > one positive response to my work (it works!) and one negative (does > not compile for non-i386, printf qualifiers). I never expected to > be in a vacuum. Then again, I'm one of those sensitive types. > > I'm committed to getting this done, it basically works, but I > need to be kicked around when I start loosing momentum. > > > But MIDI isn't FreeBSD problem. We've been stagnant in sound > infrastructure, both in the human and software sense. Other > projects have continued along without us. We don't have anybody > that really understands the sound infrastructure, esp given that > locking was an after thought that makes things infinitely more > complex. > > (BTW, Orion gave up his commit bit about a year ago, due to an > increase in demand on his time, a baby) > > To me, the worse aspect is that new people are scared off > either by the perceived complexity issues or general unwillingness > of the powers that be to accept a new direction. > > To move forward we need to: > > - Get a new sound team. I don't know how to go about this, maybe a > general call to arms, or an appointment from core or maybe a > guillotine backed revolution. > > - Set a list of priorities and start working on them. I see the > major > TODO items: > > - Review this list > - Figure out which PR are still applicable, close the rest. > - Move forward with features, other projects have far surpassed > us. > To me the most glaring difference is that we are stuck with a > simplistic view of "Mixers" and cannot export the sophisticated > controls that present days devices contain. NetBSD, ALSA, that > commercial project have all taken this on. We could embellish > or just plain drop our mixer support while keeping what was good > from newpcm2 > - Or, just port the NetBSD sound infrastructure. Sometimes, when > I'm > depressed, I look into the feasibility of this. > > > So there it is. How wants to be part of freebsd sound? Many > open positions, but the pay sucks. Hi! I would be happy to help. My C is not good enough to help much with code, but I would be happy to help out in any way I can. If I can help in any way, please let me know. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 22:45:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F25B16A4D6 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:45:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf05.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf05.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DA143D46 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:45:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steven@403forbidden.net) Received: from mxip03.cluster1.charter.net (mxip03a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.133])j0FMjL3F023629 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:45:21 -0500 Received: from 24-197-165-70.cpe.ga.charter.com (HELO services.403forbidden.net) (24.197.165.70) by mxip03.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 15 Jan 2005 17:45:21 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.88,128,1102309200"; d="scan'208"; a="557785319:sNHT16486742" Received: from atlantis.403forbidden.net (atlantis.403forbidden.net [10.0.0.10])j0FMkj32079309 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:46:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steven@403forbidden.net) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:45:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Steven S." To: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050115180942.GA12541@cnd.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: <20050115174348.O79758@atlantis.403forbidden.net> References: <41E583BD.5080900@elischer.org> <20050115180942.GA12541@cnd.mcgill.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: freevo port + pvr250 X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:45:24 -0000 has anyone successfully gotten freevo from the ports tree working with their pvr250? Curious what you use for the VCR_CMD options, nothing I've attempted to use seems to want to work. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 23:04:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60EB16A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:04:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from md.gfk.ru (md.f231.gfk.ru [84.21.231.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DB443D1F for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:04:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Yuriy.Tsibizov@gfk.ru) Received: from dialup-chibis.gfk.ru ([10.0.6.45]) by md.gfk.ru (md.gfk.ru [62.205.179.201]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 55-md50000000423.tmp for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:03:48 +0300 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:03:43 +0300 (MSK) From: Yuriy Tsibizov X-X-Sender: chibis@free.home.local To: multimedia@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050116002248.H560@free.home.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Processed: md.gfk.ru, Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:03:48 +0300 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 10.0.6.45 X-Return-Path: Yuriy.Tsibizov@gfk.ru X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: multimedia@freebsd.org cc: Mathew Kanner Subject: Re: audio code maintainers, A call to arms X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:04:31 -0000 > > The there is MIDI... > > > First, I guess I owe an apology to the list and to freebsd in > general for dragging my feet on MIDI. The stunning silence is > incredibly demotivating to me. Over the many months think I've had one > positive response to my work (it works!) and one negative (does not > compile for non-i386, printf qualifiers). [...] > But MIDI isn't FreeBSD problem. We've been stagnant in sound > infrastructure, both in the human and software sense. Other projects > have continued along without us. We don't have anybody that really > understands the sound infrastructure, esp given that locking was an > after thought that makes things infinitely more complex. > To me, the worse aspect is that new people are scared off > either by the perceived complexity issues or general unwillingness of > the powers that be to accept a new direction. > To move forward we need to: > - Get a new sound team. I don't know how to go about this, maybe a > general call to arms, or an appointment from core or maybe a > guillotine backed revolution. > - Set a list of priorities and start working on them. I see the major > TODO items: > - Review this list > - Figure out which PR are still applicable, close the rest. As I can remember, there also a lot of PRs that was not assigned to sound@, at least for emu10k1 driver (I was looking on them in 2003 when Orion started building NEWPCMv2 team). I can look at open PRs when I get GNATS database on my home computer (next weekend, I think). > - Move forward with features, other projects have far surpassed us. > To me the most glaring difference is that we are stuck with a > simplistic view of "Mixers" and cannot export the sophisticated > controls that present days devices contain. NetBSD, ALSA, that > commercial project have all taken this on. We could embellish or > just plain drop our mixer support while keeping what was good from > newpcm2 Another desired feature is multichannel sound. It would be nice to have possibility to play 7.1/5.1/2.1 sound on cards that support multichannel output. This, of course, require new mixer infrastructure. > So there it is. How wants to be part of freebsd sound? Many > open positions, but the pay sucks. Not shure. I was trying to understand sound subsystem for almost two years without good results. I can't keep entire picture of sound internals in my head :-(. Yuriy Tsibizov, http://chibis.persons.gfk.ru/ P.S. Please CC me on reply.